From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 06:04:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BB816A419 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com (ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com [38.99.2.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EF013C442 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from pool-71-170-114-32.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.170.114.32] helo=reedmedia.net) by ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1IXs17-00071G-2M for chat@freeBSD.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:22:29 -0700 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 23715-1190179344; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:22:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:22:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: chat@freeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: comment about LISP book? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: reed@reedmedia.net List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:04:17 -0000 Anyone here a LISP user who can spend a moment to comment about a LISP book? I want to find out if it is worth pursuing publishing a course book that introduces LISP and design of a LISP interpreter. If I do pursue it, I will need someone to do a technical review of the book. This will be paid. Please email me off-list. Thanks. Jeremy C. Reed From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 14:02:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692EE16A41A for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rottled@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1AF13C46C for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rottled@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so171118nfb for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+wavZzjbAIiFVng3Bs38NbrSDBoztjhmaZ3Y3F6rjxQ=; b=D5V83zNgvPesu+Aejndc5nXGDzJOHs9CrsiK+3gAxqvWC0opo2Bcp5aDTkNx9n7fZhUP3o4Nu8TMoTgbm7CCWH34TR7Ji3o5SeflKarutkGXLPnAZjrskoU3tgvj0gxGjEV8k64KRPccau+TTmLSLa54DzQq1vU9rg2K1lUytIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CBYFylcSTo9sm0u8pAP68sZ4gq8NRQLjq4IrOP7AXd2OSg7UF7QIzPOsg2/KvdQeYHnC8ASKDLEilVrzav/1b6EE8KuH5PcukheUcJI4dP+PjRVAzUAE0C4uM1wnvijpt8jTNqi0mtFGLYpM4FQvarSqIKERTrQtW+l32feyo7I= Received: by 10.86.73.17 with SMTP id v17mr535505fga.1190208948363; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.35.17 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54b90fdf0709190635k76086972pfcd141f3c0ef8244@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:35:48 -0400 From: Yan To: reed@reedmedia.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: comment about LISP book? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:02:49 -0000 It's funny that you just mentioned it now, as I was looking at a few lisp books recently. "Paradigms of AI Programming" has been hailed as one of the best lisp books ever written (book site here: http://norvig.com/paip.html, and click on the 'Comments' section). The amazon reviews for it are also glowing, not to mention the utmost respect I have for its author (Peter Norvig). Being more specific to what you're asking, quoting Norvig himself: "Probably the best book ever on how to write Lisp compilers and interpreters is Christian Queinnec's *Lisp in Small Pieces*.". You can also look at Paul Graham's "On On 9/19/07, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > > Anyone here a LISP user who can spend a moment to comment about a LISP > book? > > I want to find out if it is worth pursuing publishing a course book that > introduces LISP and design of a LISP interpreter. > > If I do pursue it, I will need someone to do a technical review of the > book. This will be paid. > > Please email me off-list. Thanks. > > Jeremy C. Reed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 14:04:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7176B16A46B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rottled@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBF213C442 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rottled@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so171587nfb for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:04:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WdYkQb6/Yp1lJDt+TcmyN53gpter54nOQY7s8IeH4pc=; b=qBZBSN8ZDtc+N54t3mSC914jQPLpIfPv1FUoDoewUDd6HC+fPzKHn0qU++LN6wvfW7+zEZP8AxeCNkcMg8855PpS042GQ0nuHoqnoF0v5pnum1zlT4DqUI0nqEy5XLG749hA9qWfUaE6A1vZrf97Kh7kzX2MAnMtv09iKDaJvqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LpWqAWQXoqlSEsPcRL56U/Uk4M8GLp1Mvqe0sUgrtTPHqSd7CMZUpWR7h8w1dFFJUQWW85zsjHnnG2LAW2y3o3HhbQuMe99E5QU0HDjm2BFC7cQEXETt10q1WDFw4mD3fOmLBTDMd7kf9tF8fuaUXrrqnfq3V0mSrnRs9xbRhP8= Received: by 10.86.54.3 with SMTP id c3mr526718fga.1190209004511; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.35.17 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54b90fdf0709190636u465dc8d2uda485abbc9026232@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:36:44 -0400 From: Yan To: reed@reedmedia.net In-Reply-To: <54b90fdf0709190635k76086972pfcd141f3c0ef8244@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <54b90fdf0709190635k76086972pfcd141f3c0ef8244@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: comment about LISP book? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:04:35 -0000 I'm sorry, hit 'send' prematurely. Edited mail below. It's funny that you just mentioned it now, as I was looking at a few lisp books recently. "Paradigms of AI Programming" has been hailed as one of the best lisp books ever written (book site here: http://norvig.com/paip.html, and click on the 'Comments' section). The amazon reviews for it are also glowing, not to mention the utmost respect I have for its author (Peter Norvig). Being more specific to what you're asking, quoting Norvig himself: "Probably the best book ever on how to write Lisp compilers and interpreters is Christian Queinnec's *Lisp in Small Pieces*.". You can also look at Paul Graham's "On Lisp" and "ANSI Common Lisp". Hope this helps. -Yan > > On 9/19/07, Jeremy C. Reed < reed@reedmedia.net> wrote: > > > > Anyone here a LISP user who can spend a moment to comment about a LISP > > book? > > > > I want to find out if it is worth pursuing publishing a course book that > > introduces LISP and design of a LISP interpreter. > > > > If I do pursue it, I will need someone to do a technical review of the > > book. This will be paid. > > > > Please email me off-list. Thanks. > > > > Jeremy C. Reed > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 14:28:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF1216A417 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A57613C45E for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdworld@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so302942ugf for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:28:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ll4wOv09lhmIucSbMo6+/QKRXILMsqGdRxO3dbDddEM=; b=rIjxi00tNZL+wAok/Fptf2+Tl286g37coYbi4nvhSm3TwprO41Lclb4Vo8Uvt8qW/8y+9Xtb48YK6K6BfSyUSvM2RiLDau9lQsBHBse+tjlD6S38emASkWmscOSuvVK4MmE9nWDriUy9LwMGw3aayIGFAdu3y8rc6MV3X5EKRh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qIwN7m2iI+Cax/pu25zs7mKI1tC8zSWebSUAIXyqC5VTN6XI7wjxw+B1slrHwms4+Dvn0jVaVEauSdAAI6iH4jP57DK/iR2fUVvNL+T9DMv204wfaP+/l8VxGpRYYvKCq/qZlYQiuHev4RALRze/iMQ4mqg6COYXcBZyMD5NCc0= Received: by 10.66.243.4 with SMTP id q4mr2062359ugh.1190212130821; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.96.6 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:28:50 -0400 From: "Benjamin Adams" To: freebsd-chat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Creating your own livecd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:28:53 -0000 Anyone know where I can read about creating my own BSD livecd? I have a laptop partition that is about 1G that I want to turn into a LiveDVD. It has some networking tools for testing and debugging. I would rather have just a dvd to boot from rather then carring around my laptop. Thanks for any help on this. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 14:41:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F69A16A417 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from supernews.unixathome.org (supernews.unixathome.org [216.168.29.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBB213C483 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CCD17026; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:41:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from supernews.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (supernews.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66aHYa-pDl7A; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [76.110.86.209]) by supernews.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D365B1701A; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.55.0.99] (wocker.unixathome.org [10.55.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56381B95B; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Benjamin Adams" Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:41:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <46F0FCDD.7261.1DEF1DA1@dan.langille.org> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> References: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating your own livecd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:41:44 -0000 On 19 Sep 2007 at 10:28, Benjamin Adams wrote: > Anyone know where I can read about creating my own BSD livecd? > I have a laptop partition that is about 1G that I want to turn into a > LiveDVD. It has some networking tools for testing and debugging. I would > rather have just a dvd to boot from rather then carring around my laptop. I recommend FreeSBIE. http://www.freesbie.org/ -- Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 16:28:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE32E16A41B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774E613C461 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so502833pyb for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:28:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nqwFZdoGQitbGBZt3qnRgZl8DlxL/S2ectdxuwzbW84=; b=IfsyHXrX/F1g73oXM62kfViyWoBk1XXh2IuV+6LMHXAFt3TtxCFcIYDpp93CiEu/b1z95aZM5d5K7dvyxU45ehOpiCfQVCGWNEsDpp1lRCis2YkamZi0I0T5lNaRIX+k9ISjBcZS+O+XdIntBK22thO6d3qOAW0WorXFGOy5vNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EhcL/GIipj/AQiXr40x/qrPCqdVTe0uhdWUZhjALxV5CcFZ96YhgW0UHUsYqmUlPcoXjZIKrENI+wnHTmrZtUbSONREGNYg5+YdFJ1yLWN2yn+YXh7PJPklGpJfLOc/XXVFwR2PFHE53RkP73NmyBREdKA6Y/hdkt8X15ddq+7M= Received: by 10.35.39.2 with SMTP id r2mr986919pyj.1190217715200; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.17 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13413b8f0709190901x320d9f7ft4af2948ade2aaa57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:01:55 +0200 From: "Gueven Bay" To: freebsd-chat In-Reply-To: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Creating your own livecd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:28:18 -0000 2007/9/19, Benjamin Adams : > Anyone know where I can read about creating my own BSD livecd? > I have a laptop partition that is about 1G that I want to turn into a > LiveDVD. It has some networking tools for testing and debugging. I would > rather have just a dvd to boot from rather then carring around my laptop. > > Thanks for any help on this. Here is an old project to make livecds for FreeBSD: http://sourceforge.net/projects/livecd/ But I don't know if the tools are working with the actual releases. Just try it. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 16:35:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B2316A420 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DCB13C4DB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so506350pyb for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=p83PXzoW+bVdFFFpUw1SMXUqvOLySkGC4DSYAKduwBM=; b=cEt+ozNJcSFv6OR5ePu5e/0SYT4gt7kgADq3yu7FZ6OdKqTDchTD3WTivyXhD8mfaS/vAuyrutm/ETwLzeZ/41zjkufs2132YruYV3RS4zzDd6RdNGu4ICRFl+39ee0lrt8/qkqFONrIq3Fwu928habe1kaYmK7XLsqg9FtABpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WSHwjQ68E+aoEQ36ShgEqfaWCeZaTW2RKpnaP082PLECvQki9eTRCAEHtprNuikFWgFxl8uUOQyZ75+uEo4exXW2zV91JfDX/TdbQV9N71ij7/Pyqtz4c2YgdIoesVAD0CVYbteoC+x8Hx66oFB+oKXxzGSJmnu50ypht7y9QdQ= Received: by 10.35.68.16 with SMTP id v16mr1035260pyk.1190218238835; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.103.17 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13413b8f0709190910r1e311910xf1308ba5cefaadab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:10:38 +0200 From: "Gueven Bay" To: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <54b90fdf0709190636u465dc8d2uda485abbc9026232@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <54b90fdf0709190635k76086972pfcd141f3c0ef8244@mail.gmail.com> <54b90fdf0709190636u465dc8d2uda485abbc9026232@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: comment about LISP book? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:35:22 -0000 2007/9/19, Yan : > I'm sorry, hit 'send' prematurely. Edited mail below. > > > It's funny that you just mentioned it now, as I was looking at a few lisp > books recently. "Paradigms of AI Programming" has been hailed as one of the > best lisp books ever written (book site here: http://norvig.com/paip.html, > and click on the 'Comments' section). The amazon reviews for it are also > glowing, not to mention the utmost respect I have for its author (Peter > Norvig). Being more specific to what you're asking, quoting Norvig > himself: "Probably > the best book ever on how to write Lisp compilers and interpreters is > Christian Queinnec's *Lisp in Small Pieces*.". You can also look at Paul > Graham's "On Lisp" and "ANSI Common Lisp". > > Hope this helps. In my opinion is On Lisp somewhat advanced as it concentrates on macros. But in itself it is a great book which teaches _the_ technique of Lisp programming. For a starter i would recommend: Practical Common Lisp http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ This book is going step for step through the process of understanding Lisp and programming "funny" applications. At the end of this book the reader has developed apps as a Shoutcast server and a HTML lib. Also it is easy to read as there are very "dry" books about programming - ANSI Common Lisp is such a dry book -. And PCL is free to read. Because the original poster wanted to make a class from a book PCL is very good for his needs (in my opinion). From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 17:42:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBD616A419 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057C713C46B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.213]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JOM008FRJNFAZ00@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:40:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JOM00MUCJNBVQ90@pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from soralx ([24.87.3.133]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JOM000V5JLNTLU0@l-daemon> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:39:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:39:23 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <13413b8f0709190910r1e311910xf1308ba5cefaadab@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-id: <20070919093923.268e9238@soralx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <54b90fdf0709190635k76086972pfcd141f3c0ef8244@mail.gmail.com> <54b90fdf0709190636u465dc8d2uda485abbc9026232@mail.gmail.com> <13413b8f0709190910r1e311910xf1308ba5cefaadab@mail.gmail.com> Cc: gueven.bay@googlemail.com Subject: Re: comment about LISP book? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:42:55 -0000 > Because the original poster wanted to make a class from a book PCL is > very good for his needs (in my opinion). Actually, the OP wanted someone to review _his_ book on LISP, AFAIR :) [SorAlx] ridin' VS1400 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 20 07:40:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0A116A46C for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B28A13C428 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA58B20DA; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:40:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3B420D9; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:40:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99E6C84480; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:40:35 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Benjamin Adams" References: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:40:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> (Benjamin Adams's message of "Wed\, 19 Sep 2007 10\:28\:50 -0400") Message-ID: <863ax9pyx8.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat Subject: Re: Creating your own livecd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:40:42 -0000 "Benjamin Adams" writes: > Anyone know where I can read about creating my own BSD livecd? > I have a laptop partition that is about 1G that I want to turn into a > LiveDVD. It has some networking tools for testing and debugging. I would > rather have just a dvd to boot from rather then carring around my laptop. Just mkisofs the partition using no-emulation mode with boot/cdboot as the boot image. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 23:45:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B446D16A468 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBF813C46A for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [208.42.70.163]) by conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F057822; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48AF0342D0E; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:23:41 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20070921232341.GL24834@tcbug.org> References: <6199c3dc0709190728x155bd585m566373ae3c720297@mail.gmail.com> <46F0FCDD.7261.1DEF1DA1@dan.langille.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46F0FCDD.7261.1DEF1DA1@dan.langille.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Benjamin Adams , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating your own livecd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Josh Paetzel List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:45:07 -0000 --I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Langille wrote: > On 19 Sep 2007 at 10:28, Benjamin Adams wrote: >=20 > > Anyone know where I can read about creating my own BSD livecd? > > I have a laptop partition that is about 1G that I want to turn into a > > LiveDVD. It has some networking tools for testing and debugging. I wo= uld > > rather have just a dvd to boot from rather then carring around my lapto= p. >=20 > I recommend FreeSBIE. http://www.freesbie.org/ >=20 > --=20 > Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ > Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php >=20 With the recent changes to /boot/cdboot FreeSBIE is almost irrevelent. I just got done stripping it out of a project for work, it's build process is complicated and overkill for a lot of projects. You can create a perfectly usable live-cd by doing: make installkernel installworld distribution DESTDIR=3D/some/dir cd /usr/ports/sysutils/screen && make install DESTDIR=3D/some/dir =2E.. =2E.. =2E.. cd /some/dir mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -R -U -V Uberl33t -p Uberl33t \ -o /usr/wherever/Uberl33t.iso . --=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel --I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG9FJ7JvkB8SevrssRAoBrAKCWTg0jy1OtZ93+Jti3/C2eQkAJxwCdFlEg /SyQZWXdbUfTrGtUu+JtXas= =Cjli -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --I4VOKWutKNZEOIPu--