From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 31 07:30:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB1416A46B for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEDF13C4A7 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9V6RpTB076846 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47282067.8070706@highperformance.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:27:51 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Mailer Error Messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:30:11 -0000 This is just a short little complaint. Could we please make mail exchange error messages just a little more understandable? For the rare occurrences where I actually get a legit non-spam induced bounce it would be nice to be able to quickly discern what happened. 1 - Don't use pronouns. "This domain is is blacklisted." Oh I see it was "THIS" domain that was blacklisted. That clears things up. Contact the postmaster? Oh I see "THE" postmaster. 2 - Say what you mean to say. ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- Actually, the address probably didn't have any errors. It was probably some sort of anti-spam in play. 3 - Use complete sentences. Please include a subject and verb PLUS the reason why there is an error. "server.foo.com rejected server.bar.com for reason." "There is no mailbox suchandsuch at server.foo.com." (now I must wonder what sort of default sillyness my server spews to everyone else when every variety of spam malfeasance reflects of my MX) I used to think that running my own MX was neat. Now I am starting to think that this is the realm of wizards. Can mere mortals use the internet without ceaselessly battling with asshats? The fight is all gone out of me. Later, Jason