From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 11:06:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E929916A421 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C054613C4B7 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8HB6HAv048436 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:06:17 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8HB6GID048432 for DOC; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:06:16 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:06:16 GMT Message-Id: <200709171106.l8HB6GID048432@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:06:18 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. r - repocopy The resolution of the problem report is dependent on a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which is awaiting completion. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp o docs/61605 doc [feature request] Improve documentation for i386 disk o docs/80843 doc [patch] psm(4): Suggested fix for psm0 / handle driver o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/106135 doc articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/112935 doc [patch] newfs_msdos(8): document 4.3g limit on files w o docs/114731 doc [patch] no mention of PORT_DBDIR in ports(7) o docs/115984 doc [patch] Remove obsolete mount_ man pages from Japanese o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL 12 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. o docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explanation. o docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long erase". o docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wrong about host o docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded books using psu o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/39348 doc diskless(8): note that kenv fetch of hostname requires o docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broad warning o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/41807 doc [patch] natd(8): document natd -punch_fw "bug" o docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/43941 doc document the Rationale for Upgrade Sequence (e.g. why o docs/44074 doc [patch] ln(1) manual clarifications o docs/47594 doc [PATCH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allowed username o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/50211 doc [PATCH] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/51891 doc DIAGNOSTICS in ed(4) driver manpage don't match realit o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt o docs/57926 doc [patch] amd.conf(5) poorly format as it has both man(7 o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/62412 doc one of the diskless boot methods described in the Hand o docs/63215 doc Wrong prototypes in mi_switch(9) (ref docs/24311) o docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not document POSI o docs/70217 doc [patch] Suggested rewrite of docproj/sgml.sgml for cla o docs/70652 doc [patch] New man page: portindex(5) o docs/73679 doc FreeBSD 5.3 Release notes mention new natd(8) function o docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o docs/75995 doc hcreate(3) documentation(?) bug o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/78240 doc [patch] handbook: replace with aroun o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/82290 doc [patch] update to handbook firewall PF section o docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/83621 doc [patch]: Minor omissions in /usr/src/UPDATING o docs/84154 doc Handbook somewhat off in use of /boot/kernel.old o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting o docs/84267 doc [patch] chflags(1) manual doesn't say it's affected by o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85128 doc loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly described o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/88477 doc Possible addition to xl(4) manpage, Diagnostics sectio o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/89325 doc [PATCH] Clarification of kbdmap(5), atkbd(4) and kbdco o docs/89492 doc vfs doc: some VOP_*(9) manual pages are outdated with o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/95139 doc FAQ to move filesystem to new disk fails: incorrect pe o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/101464 doc sync u_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/102148 doc The description of which Intel chips have EM64T is out o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/104403 doc man security should mention that the usage of the X Wi o docs/104493 doc [patch] Wrong description in ntp.conf(5) (CURRENT and o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/105997 doc sys/kern/sys_pipe.c refer to tuning(7), but there is n o docs/106425 doc [PATCH] add a HARDWARE-section to ata(4) o docs/107432 doc Handbook's default partitioning schema is out-of-date o docs/107611 doc man syncookies should mention net.inet.tcp.syncookies_ o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/108142 doc [patch] extattr(2) man page incomplete for extattr_lis o docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/109115 doc add Ultra 450 to hardware list for sparc64 o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd o docs/109226 doc [request]: No manual entry for sntp o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109975 doc No manual entry for elf2aout o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109983 doc No manual entry for protoize o docs/110061 doc [PATCH] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/111263 doc Information on $EDITOR variable in section 3.10, "Text o docs/111265 doc Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111781 doc Developers' Handbook mentions wrong sysctl for debuggi o docs/112267 doc GEOM Mirror documentation doesn't tell you to remove / o docs/112481 doc bug in ppp.linkup example o docs/112579 doc No ipv6 related pf examples in /usr/share/examples/pf o docs/112650 doc [patch] add flopen(3) to flock(2)'s xrefs o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/112683 doc Handbook KBD_INSTALL_CDEV explanation is redundant o docs/112684 doc Handbook chapter 8.4 explanation of devices should inc o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/113194 doc [patch] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month plus day-i o docs/113390 doc [PATCH] geli option for to onetime encryption algorith o docs/113464 doc Error regarding IPF and ALTQ in handbook o docs/113570 doc dumpon(8), sysctl(8) refer to defunct variable "dumpde o docs/113695 doc handbook suggests different lockfile than gbde(8) manp o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114371 doc [patch][ipv6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114715 doc [patch] incorrect use of FATxx and ``extended file sys o docs/114898 doc [request]: Update handbook section 27.7 to handle Apac o docs/115000 doc [PATCH] nits and updates to FAQs (part 1) o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/115284 doc [patch] nve(4): bug in nve driver, document it. o docs/115445 doc [patch] improve timed(8) man page s docs/115716 doc remove cue from supported hardware list o docs/115732 doc [patch] Update to NanoBSD article - added a section on o docs/115774 doc [patch] Mailing list users aren't warned about public o docs/115918 docs [PATCH]: missing bios_oem_strings(9) documentation o docs/115921 doc Booting from pst(4) is not supported o docs/115990 doc [patch] Edit to handbook/desktop/chapter.sgml to add K o docs/116047 doc [patch] bsdlabel(8) manpage doesn't mention 'auto' typ o docs/116068 doc [patch] Add "make config" and "make rmconfig" info to o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note 141 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 12:13:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CC616A418 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CCB13C457 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup167.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.167]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l8HCChK6032311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:12:55 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8HCCXkr002557 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:12:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8GDuMQW014142 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:56:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:56:21 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.094, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.30, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:13:09 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article that describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when working on the console, and when working in X11). This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would probably be ok to translate it to English too. Do you think it's ok to commit this article to el_GR.ISO8859-7 first, or should we post its English version for review here, and then after an English version is finalized we can commit it to el_GR.ISO8859-7 too? Thanks in advance, for any helpful insight, Giorgos --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG7TYF1g+UGjGGA7YRAvS/AJ9TkVmCjJ2VtxaPcwwDrEHMJzmXagCfYgx1 XBOxja+rUXLX4/bZx7Tc6HQ= =Ol+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 12:44:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B104D16A418; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [81.2.252.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6BF13C46E; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9B5A4A75E; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:44:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dLgAUcDM9f3c; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:44:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-5063f539.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.245.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A71FA4A75A; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:44:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46EE76B5.4050704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:44:37 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:44:52 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas escribió: > A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article that > describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when working > on the console, and when working in X11). > > This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would > probably be ok to translate it to English too. > > Do you think it's ok to commit this article to el_GR.ISO8859-7 first, or > should we post its English version for review here, and then after an > English version is finalized we can commit it to el_GR.ISO8859-7 too? > > Personally, I think that we can have non-English articles without a corresponding English text, too. There are areas, which are only useful for a specific country or for a specific language. For example, Spanish people have an own primer for Spanish translations, that discusses the language-specific requirements for translator volunteers. As those people can speak Spanish, no need to have an English version. I think that the same applies to this article. If one wants to use the Greek language, then one probably understands Greek, so no need to have an English version here either. Actually, I'm also working on a translation primer for the Hungarian project, which I intend to commit to hu_HU.ISO8859-2 when ready. Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 12:46:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E456116A421; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F0213C45A; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l8HCkiZJ084235; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:46:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8HCkiP2002037; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:46:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id l8HCkiMn002036; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:46:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:46:44 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:46:48 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 04:56:21PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article that > describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when working > on the console, and when working in X11). >=20 > This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would > probably be ok to translate it to English too. >=20 > Do you think it's ok to commit this article to el_GR.ISO8859-7 first, or > should we post its English version for review here, and then after an > English version is finalized we can commit it to el_GR.ISO8859-7 too? >=20 This cannot be added to: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html ? --=20 Marc --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG7ncyzQ9RwE+OdOgRAnPXAKDLcGiTY4VM2P0VMhGhXrtM+SHY4ACgyJvX H+W14Ilw4d69218UybEGL4E= =Phfe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 12:55:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D9016A419 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B90013C4DD for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup167.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.167]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l8HCt0Yo002493 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:55:30 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8HCsrgR003114 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:54:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8HCsqg1003113 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:54:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:54:52 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.091, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.31, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:55:41 -0000 On 2007-09-17 14:46, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 04:56:21PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article that > > describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when working > > on the console, and when working in X11). > > > > This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would > > probably be ok to translate it to English too. > > > > Do you think it's ok to commit this article to el_GR.ISO8859-7 first, or > > should we post its English version for review here, and then after an > > English version is finalized we can commit it to el_GR.ISO8859-7 too? > > This cannot be added to: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html > ? It's kind of large-ish for a section, but I can try to convert it to a patch for the Handbook :) Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of lang-setup.html until now :) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 13:19:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675BB16A418; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [81.2.252.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1766313C457; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF754A4A774; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:18:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9SV1rSC3e8Hv; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:18:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-5063f539.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.245.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC79A4A76F; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:18:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46EE7EB1.2020501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:18:41 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:19:08 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas escribió: >> This cannot be added to: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html >> ? >> > > It's kind of large-ish for a section, but I can try to convert it to a > patch for the Handbook :) > > Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of lang-setup.html until now :) > This is my personal opinion again, but I think that an article is more handy in this case. One might find it more easily among the Greek documentation set than in the handbook as one small part in one chapter from the many ones. I'd add it as an article and put a link to the handbook chapter as other languages do. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 13:37:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AF116A419; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7DB13C469; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l8HDasp9085197; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:36:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost.blackend.org [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8HDarGg002217; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:36:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id l8HDarAE002216; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:36:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:36:53 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20070917133653.GB1755@gothic.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:37:07 -0000 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 03:54:52PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-09-17 14:46, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 04:56:21PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article that > > > describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when working > > > on the console, and when working in X11). > > > > > > This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would > > > probably be ok to translate it to English too. > > > > > > Do you think it's ok to commit this article to el_GR.ISO8859-7 first, or > > > should we post its English version for review here, and then after an > > > English version is finalized we can commit it to el_GR.ISO8859-7 too? > > > > This cannot be added to: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html > > ? > > It's kind of large-ish for a section, but I can try to convert it to a > patch for the Handbook :) > > Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of lang-setup.html until now :) > Check if what you want to add is not already mentioned in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html (I think that page lacks of a XkbLayout example). Most of locale things are in that chapter, so the language specific additions should be limited. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 14:26:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C10316A417 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@benji.nitro.dk) Received: from mx.nitro.dk (zarniwoop.nitro.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B189C13C4A8 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@benji.nitro.dk) Received: from benji.nitro.dk (unknown [192.168.3.39]) by mx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213821E8C12; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by benji.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 94729FDD4; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:10:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:10:39 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20070917141038.GF2003@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Matt Olander Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:26:54 -0000 On 2007.09.14 10:06:35 +0200, Murray Stokely wrote: > I would prefer to check in something into > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/pc-bsd-handbook. The SGML files there would > occasionally include chapters from ../handbook. The most important > two chapters that we need are a new Chapter 1 : Introduction, and a > new Chapter 2 : Installation. The next most important chapter to > write is on Ports and Packages. Once those three chapters are > written, we can put together a useful Handbook specifically for PC-BSD > users that can help raise the profile of PC-BSD. The PC-BSD > introduction chapter could in turn be added as an appendix to the main > Handbook. > > I think we should do this inside the normal FreeBSD Doc Project > framework to raise awareness and produce closer ties between people > working on PC-BSD and the base FreeBSD. > > Thoughts or concerns about this? I don't see any big problems with doing it this way as long as it's clear that what is being documented. The only problem I can think of right now is related to what people find if they search on the FreeBSD web site and end up with PC-BSD stuff. -- Simon L. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 16:22:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D3816A421 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B7913C47E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (ip70-177-190-239.dc.dc.cox.net [70.177.190.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8HFhC3d089214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:43:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:43:05 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Message-Id: <20070917114305.69df3e1c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20070917141038.GF2003@zaphod.nitro.dk> References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> <20070917141038.GF2003@zaphod.nitro.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: murray.stokely@gmail.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, matt@ixsystems.com Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:22:28 -0000 On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:10:39 +0200 "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote: > On 2007.09.14 10:06:35 +0200, Murray Stokely wrote: > > > I would prefer to check in something into > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/pc-bsd-handbook. The SGML files there would > > occasionally include chapters from ../handbook. The most important > > two chapters that we need are a new Chapter 1 : Introduction, and a > > new Chapter 2 : Installation. The next most important chapter to > > write is on Ports and Packages. Once those three chapters are > > written, we can put together a useful Handbook specifically for PC-BSD > > users that can help raise the profile of PC-BSD. The PC-BSD > > introduction chapter could in turn be added as an appendix to the main > > Handbook. > > > > I think we should do this inside the normal FreeBSD Doc Project > > framework to raise awareness and produce closer ties between people > > working on PC-BSD and the base FreeBSD. > > > > Thoughts or concerns about this? > > I don't see any big problems with doing it this way as long as it's > clear that what is being documented. > > The only problem I can think of right now is related to what people > find if they search on the FreeBSD web site and end up with PC-BSD > stuff. > That we would have to be careful with. I've just installed PC-BSD on an extra laptop here and will be letting my ex play with it. Even she seems to understand how to use it so I'm impressed. :) Now to remember/figure out how to get install screen shots. :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 17:22:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850A216A417 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AFD13C46B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IXJsF-0004Y2-54 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:55:03 +0200 Received: from r5j156.net.upc.cz ([86.49.9.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:55:03 +0200 Received: from gamato by r5j156.net.upc.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:55:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:05:48 +0200 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <46ED464C.6030607@users.sf.net> References: <20070831192600.GA19528@crodrigues.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: r5j156.net.upc.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070821 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 In-Reply-To: <20070831192600.GA19528@crodrigues.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: Need to remove references to "nodev" mount option X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:22:06 -0000 Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > I submitted a patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=115984 > to remove references to the "nodev" mount option. > > "nodev" has been silently ignored since FreeBSD 5, due to the > introduction of devfs. In FreeBSD 7, if you try > "mount -o ndev" or if you have "nodev" in /etc/fstab, > this will result in a mount failure. > Well, it actually fails on 6-STABLE, too. I don't know when it changed but noticed the change after update & rebuild of my system some time ago. M. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 20:53:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CE616A421 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA3713C465 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup33.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.33]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l8HKrBQJ025466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:53:26 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8HKr3oa002062 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:53:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8HKr3op002061 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:53:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:53:03 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070917205303.GA1830@kobe.laptop> References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> <20070917133653.GB1755@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070917133653.GB1755@gothic.blackend.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.088, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.31, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: keramida@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:53:38 -0000 On 2007-09-17 15:36, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 03:54:52PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> This cannot be added to: >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html >>> ? >> >> It's kind of large-ish for a section, but I can try to convert it to a >> patch for the Handbook :) >> >> Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of lang-setup.html until now :) > > Check if what you want to add is not already mentioned in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html > (I think that page lacks of a XkbLayout example). > > Most of locale things are in that chapter, so the language specific > additions should be limited. The tricky part is that someone coming from another 'world' (i.e. from the Windows side of the world) doesn't know _anything_ about "locales". The main idea behind collecting all the localization options in an article was to be able to point the user to _one_ place, instead of 4-5 different Handbook chapters :-/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 06:41:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A8616A418; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loader@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07C813C47E; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loader@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (loader@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8I6fgwH025255; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:42 GMT (envelope-from loader@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8I6fdRA025254; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:39 GMT (envelope-from loader) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:39 GMT Message-Id: <200709180641.l8I6fdRA025254@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: emacs 22.0.99.1 (via feedmail 8 I) To: Tom Rhodes References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> <20070917141038.GF2003@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20070917114305.69df3e1c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> From: loader@FreeBSD.org X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/loader.asc X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0277E075 X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: F8A0 A354 5D97 B175 7FC9 15DC 0771 07CF 0277 E075 User-Agent: Emacs 22.0.99.1 on i386-pc-freebsd In-Reply-To: <20070917114305.69df3e1c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> (Tom Rhodes's message of "Mon\, 17 Sep 2007 11\:43\:05 -0400") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: murray.stokely@gmail.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, matt@ixsystems.com, "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:43 -0000 > That we would have to be careful with. > > I've just installed PC-BSD on an extra laptop here and will be > letting my ex play with it. Even she seems to understand how > to use it so I'm impressed. :) > > Now to remember/figure out how to get install screen shots. :) Is it okay to use the .png format? I just copied x11/xwd binary to the mem disk when PC-BSD CD boots into fluxbox. And converted them to png format. http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/001.png http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/002.png .. ... ... http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/012.png http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/013.png Regards, loader From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 07:15:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C5316A419; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EC413C461; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l8I7Fnag001220; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l8I7Fn04001219; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:15:49 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: keramida@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070918071549.GA909@abigail.blackend.org> Mail-Followup-To: keramida@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> <20070917133653.GB1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917205303.GA1830@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070917205303.GA1830@kobe.laptop> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:15:59 -0000 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:53:03PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-09-17 15:36, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 03:54:52PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>> This cannot be added to: > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html > >>> ? > >> > >> It's kind of large-ish for a section, but I can try to convert it to a > >> patch for the Handbook :) > >> > >> Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of lang-setup.html until now :) > > > > Check if what you want to add is not already mentioned in > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html > > (I think that page lacks of a XkbLayout example). > > > > Most of locale things are in that chapter, so the language specific > > additions should be limited. > > The tricky part is that someone coming from another 'world' (i.e. from > the Windows side of the world) doesn't know _anything_ about "locales". > > The main idea behind collecting all the localization options in an > article was to be able to point the user to _one_ place, instead of 4-5 > different Handbook chapters :-/ > Maybe it's time to reorganize that chapter. Anyway, do what is more appropriate. I just wonder about the need to have a localization chapter if the reader has to read another document to get the information. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 07:48:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8907F16A417; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0048213C45E; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from dslb-088-064-187-186.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.64.187.186] (helo=amd64.laiers.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2xA-1IXXbZ0Tdk-00026D; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:34:46 +0200 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:34:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3607925.WCPWxnknAY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709180934.43134.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19+3Wb0nPveUE+JIz9lTdK1+a8TH/TsrCR74W5 aYIMydgCRGjRVvjJLYzTaptpt8rGgzP43zkVlvBhznaicTNhfC /Hve0P8Xg3FxWcC6MIOKYF800J2AamI+UuBdkwlkDU= Cc: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:48:44 -0000 --nextPart3607925.WCPWxnknAY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 16 September 2007, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article > that describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when > working on the console, and when working in X11). > > This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would > probably be ok to translate it to English too. Sounds like a bootstrapping problem - in order to read the Greek document=20 on how to setup Console or X11 for display of Greek characters, one would=20 need a system capable of displaying Greek characters ... > Do you think it's ok to commit this article to el_GR.ISO8859-7 first, > or should we post its English version for review here, and then after > an English version is finalized we can commit it to el_GR.ISO8859-7 > too? =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart3607925.WCPWxnknAY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBG73+TXyyEoT62BG0RAlKVAJ9gdyZtf5SfBavoPGccFEwgdR98LACaA89a QtMeWN6plIKE4Ypd2dyUyv4= =GOSi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3607925.WCPWxnknAY-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 08:00:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B21016A468 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF1813C481 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1424887rvb for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:59:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=sLdIjdze3JZFcYB6YpnPXJi1lRsinhwnObf270guDmM=; b=mWeP8OOXfiKu6LONTqIp1r9XpGML6l+cTb5d9eMdd++EGNrh1et3ac7hpywBQYlBF9Y2IoPhBAht48MioQehMui7P+xcIrjCLaCioFA7POnO5fZ0FwYjhWI3PZ+NdA20ENqhte5wS+HZiagi8lRjYh4Rbyu0SL6Le3QXTRjAIgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WWP+zbiUg7NIFh8/R6ErEjzIonFo2roAbgU08Hdat3VVe/qTMDeDgJBFxe1bGYkM4sJLhyzfyaM8E8VzAtdcQ6f2RdT5juRAL+uU5aL8+u7nuQ+bWLp+x0Md9pfvjowLW7q2zPb640sRhVMYb1Q6cD+nbhoo4QoIb2z87hWpTTE= Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr1049515rve.1190102395945; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.193.6 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <474078f80709180059k2d46dcffj2f7d8ae4473d3b26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:59:55 +0100 From: "Murray Stokely" To: keramida@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070917205303.GA1830@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <20070917124643.GA1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917125452.GA3081@kobe.laptop> <20070917133653.GB1755@gothic.blackend.org> <20070917205303.GA1830@kobe.laptop> Cc: Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:00:16 -0000 Committing the article first in Greek is completely fine with me, especially if that makes the material more accessible than the Handbook. Murray On 9/17/07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-09-17 15:36, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 03:54:52PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>> This cannot be added to: > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/lang-setup.html > >>> ? > >> > >> It's kind of large-ish for a section, but I can try to convert it to a > >> patch for the Handbook :) > >> > >> Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of lang-setup.html until now :) > > > > Check if what you want to add is not already mentioned in > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html > > (I think that page lacks of a XkbLayout example). > > > > Most of locale things are in that chapter, so the language specific > > additions should be limited. > > The tricky part is that someone coming from another 'world' (i.e. from > the Windows side of the world) doesn't know _anything_ about "locales". > > The main idea behind collecting all the localization options in an > article was to be able to point the user to _one_ place, instead of 4-5 > different Handbook chapters :-/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 08:53:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC03316A419 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8C013C48E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile.ondsl.gr [83.235.244.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l8I8qV05005359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:52:47 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8I8qE12002378; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:52:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8I8qEtS002377; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:52:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:52:14 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Max Laier Message-ID: <20070918085214.GA2099@kobe.laptop> References: <20070916135621.GA14098@kobe.laptop> <200709180934.43134.max@love2party.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200709180934.43134.max@love2party.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.087, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.31, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Non-English articles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:53:03 -0000 On 2007-09-18 09:34, Max Laier wrote: >On Sunday 16 September 2007, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> A fellow Greek translator, Nikos Kokkalis, has submitted an article >> that describes how to configure FreeBSD for Greek support (both when >> working on the console, and when working in X11). >> >> This article is only in Greek now, but it's short enough that it would >> probably be ok to translate it to English too. > > Sounds like a bootstrapping problem - in order to read the Greek document > on how to setup Console or X11 for display of Greek characters, one would > need a system capable of displaying Greek characters ... True. This can be a problem. Many users have access to "another box" when they try FreeBSD, which works perfectly fine for their current setup. Or they can print an article from another system. The particular article is mostly aiming at the FreeBSD newbie, who already has an installation of Foobar OS, and wants to give FreeBSD a try :) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 13:30:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C34316A41A; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6056C13C465; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (ip70-177-190-239.dc.dc.cox.net [70.177.190.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8IDUU05095480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:30:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:30:23 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: loader@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20070918093023.6e9b7ebc.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200709180641.l8I6fdRA025254@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> <20070917141038.GF2003@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20070917114305.69df3e1c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200709180641.l8I6fdRA025254@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: murray.stokely@gmail.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, matt@ixsystems.com, simon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:30:34 -0000 On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:41:39 GMT loader@freebsd.org wrote: > > > That we would have to be careful with. > > > > I've just installed PC-BSD on an extra laptop here and will be > > letting my ex play with it. Even she seems to understand how > > to use it so I'm impressed. :) > > > > Now to remember/figure out how to get install screen shots. :) > > Is it okay to use the .png format? I just copied x11/xwd binary to > the mem disk when PC-BSD CD boots into fluxbox. And converted them > to png format. > > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/001.png > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/002.png > .. ... ... > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/012.png > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/013.png Someone is WAY ahead of me. :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 13:39:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58FB16A418 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D88713C45B for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1484695rvb for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pHy62sk5D4vFrqXbxfKu7AWdj5CuLnchrZ+fhaBhNyk=; b=F8DULyyAFV/OGcYL2cIafRLN5HKwbr2aPj5nabu+5I7l194lgGsHedohxocEKlCr5IUoJZbS375y8sTm+tHyrCDNP1PsbjBAMtgXqLiI2UKULDinqbP9NaFpTWXVDwGLBchbpODi2t4lstM4vRMqxPSEjFf0lcPac+N+ooaEPts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HgCthVYZp3zm3sAYo2o+n8abLxG0zVVqoKRPgNr8Za0RrU4pfLnSdETniZwxjZ/lp+LTpmMyj9wY9LlRJAYRmLn4dvS7/oIvYBn9ma840iMYH56dqs1QWcPPTNayhQ/FBLz/DXbMSC45Eopcg+ggJEsgTBfQG26XZ0ntoLcyDqQ= Received: by 10.141.159.13 with SMTP id l13mr1143360rvo.1190122740878; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.193.6 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <474078f80709180639i625a182em28f019c2948401f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:39:00 +0100 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "loader@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <200709180641.l8I6fdRA025254@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> <20070917141038.GF2003@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20070917114305.69df3e1c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200709180641.l8I6fdRA025254@freefall.freebsd.org> Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, matt@ixsystems.com, "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:39:07 -0000 Hi Loader, these look great. If you can start to put these images into an SGML chapter and post a diff / tarball somewhere then I can help with some of the text (as can many others I'm sure). - Murray On 9/18/07, loader@freebsd.org wrote: > > > That we would have to be careful with. > > > > I've just installed PC-BSD on an extra laptop here and will be > > letting my ex play with it. Even she seems to understand how > > to use it so I'm impressed. :) > > > > Now to remember/figure out how to get install screen shots. :) > > Is it okay to use the .png format? I just copied x11/xwd binary to > the mem disk when PC-BSD CD boots into fluxbox. And converted them > to png format. > > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/001.png > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/002.png > .. ... ... > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/012.png > http://www.freebsdmall.com/~loader/pc-bsd-handbook/013.png > > Regards, > loader > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 14:49:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FD516A419 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6266313C4CB for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1500179rvb for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:49:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=n0R8YuFM/kKHwUW8qreV3jcaER0entIXSgTJ5l1I0qg=; b=ujoe5H1X8i/X4Mx/qlAlP6p0ilelDI82LtukgoTCFUTYYDcVR2en9i7d9tY2Y+qShXlHZlZeJhwOn1K80fAfGmMrT87c2KbMbVVzUMbN/LmYt1xqPMeYmHFa9Vw4MmHFzpTkPezAmXNzp3ggmYKJ7lKBCdlD3T8IxIPR3hFKe68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f04OrUjhGA9+9reil/rLiV9MCm+8SNbbGNsF3ze1+Tn26H3YOVrvYhH7dgf1ULttLCu6kEt5tV6TUPZ1FlNBoaT9HLpqP4toPJBtQjmtt32s6mVH6af44FfvqKW9HRnEH1LnC4sSPB63VjZZWoa5ARWrdmioTUyVfkp/MFuyAlM= Received: by 10.140.126.14 with SMTP id y14mr1404311rvc.1190126949909; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.193.6 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <474078f80709180749h5aa1ade0we8483bab19af7bf8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:49:09 +0100 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Joseph Koshy" In-Reply-To: <84dead720709180737i6cbe12a2m71cea9fd2b07c7f0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> <84dead720709180737i6cbe12a2m71cea9fd2b07c7f0@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Matt Olander Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:49:10 -0000 On 9/18/07, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > I would prefer to check in something into > > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/pc-bsd-handbook. The SGML files there would > > occasionally include chapters from ../handbook. > > > Thoughts or concerns about this? > > What about finer grain content differences---those one paragraph > or one sentence differences that are best handled inline? SGML > conditional includes for those? Yea. We'll aim to minimize those where possible, but I don't think this will be too onerous. There are a handful of places where we did this for output.print for html/print output differences. I'm really glad we have the &os entity that can be updated to say 'PC-BSD' now. - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 15:04:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CF616A41A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6E213C45A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so375835anc for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nbPJuY1WKe7wqwXv8CHyv+UekwDWh+55muLeII5sn70=; b=QL+ckPv9wU8vARmAhTlpu1g/D9qDwhlPlSZ/ub+GoZfYKCKI/ox+9qS8qxM6TP6GDPz+W9jFKd+dznyNt9fllKD37gbNXqZXrcaPWHRULPiaDRIZ4AEQwUqrwNnSayujVc3kyOH7XmUCjzfQNw5ib2EclTf2JgBuCB+wu2IukT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TymHYJBYjnizBlnYHWqlONWfmV8/rIgAfi+Ffvf4q8zOId7/VtFsBR29YcqBHQvaSqTkk1QO7UvPUOcouKPMazpIK4Z3Xr7zj1taZwl19Ly4AAjec5RKqmRXcBfEe9gD9dE61lhkJrJRpzlx+lKi9QiF2ZpWKZ9t4wC7n9HjTsg= Received: by 10.142.185.13 with SMTP id i13mr1497236wff.1190126221199; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.166.17 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84dead720709180737i6cbe12a2m71cea9fd2b07c7f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:37:01 +0000 From: "Joseph Koshy" To: "Murray Stokely" In-Reply-To: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Matt Olander Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:04:44 -0000 > I would prefer to check in something into > doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/pc-bsd-handbook. The SGML files there would > occasionally include chapters from ../handbook. > Thoughts or concerns about this? What about finer grain content differences---those one paragraph or one sentence differences that are best handled inline? SGML conditional includes for those? -- FreeBSD Volunteer, http://people.freebsd.org/~jkoshy From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 19:54:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B54C16A46B for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@desync.com) Received: from bitcloud.desync.com (bitcloud.desync.com [64.157.15.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9BA13C4DB for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@desync.com) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (adsl-76-217-67-156.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net [76.217.67.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bitcloud.desync.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6FD130C33 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: ben wilber Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:38:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Handbook PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:54:45 -0000 Hi, What do people think of having a little more of our own PF documentation in the Handbook? It's quickly becoming a popular firewall package and the Handbook doesn't really do it justice. Maybe some real-world scenarios and commonly used solutions, like NAT for an office network or authpf for a secured server. bw. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 20:01:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB82F16A418 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from skapet.datadok.no (cl-426.sto-01.se.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:16d8:ff00:1a9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1EA13C45E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@bsdly.net) Received: from thingy.bsdly.net ([10.168.103.11] helo=thingy.datadok.no.bsdly.net ident=peter) by skapet.datadok.no with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1IXjGZ-0003z5-PG; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:01:51 +0200 To: ben wilber References: From: peter@bsdly.net (Peter N. M. Hansteen) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:01:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: (ben wilber's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:38:50 -0500") Message-ID: <87vea7d9ox.fsf@thingy.datadok.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:01:56 -0000 ben wilber writes: > What do people think of having a little more of our own PF > documentation in the Handbook? It's quickly becoming a popular > firewall package and the Handbook doesn't really do it justice. I've offered up a patch[1] to the firewalls chapter with a light introduction and a reference to the BSD licensed tutorial[2] I maintain separately. > Maybe some real-world scenarios and commonly used solutions, like NAT > for an office network or authpf for a secured server. yes, there's something like that in there. I'm kind of focused on finishing [3] at the moment, but both [1] and [2] are BSD licensed already and can be used as starting points if anybody else has the resources to get more PF info, possibly FreeBSD-specific, into the FreeBSD Handbook. [1] http://www.bsdly.net/~peter/freebsd/fw.diff [2] http://www.bsdly.net/~peter/pf.html or for that matter directly at http://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/ - the docbook sgml source is there too [3] http://nostarch.com/pf.htm -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 21:09:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9447A16A46B; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@bitcloud.desync.com) Received: from bitcloud.desync.com (bitcloud.desync.com [64.157.15.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA6213C46C; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@bitcloud.desync.com) Received: by bitcloud.desync.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 95426130C86; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:51:07 +0000 From: ben wilber To: Daniel Gerzo Message-ID: <20070918205107.GB46655@bitcloud.desync.com> References: <1629503970.20070918223950@rulez.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1629503970.20070918223950@rulez.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:09:50 -0000 On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:39:50PM +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Why would we, when a very great PF documentation is maintained by > OpenBSD guys at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ ? Because the PF FAQ reads more like an instruction manual than a FAQ. I don't think the casual user looking to set up basic firewall functionality on their FreeBSD machine needs to be presented with CIDR lessons. This is also not in the spirit of the handbook as I understand it. There is plenty of documentation of Apache, yet we have a section on how to configure virtual hosts. bw. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 21:12:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161A716A41A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA70E13C4A7 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938E610E844; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:37:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GjtpJmfqI7if; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:37:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAB010E83D; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:37:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:39:50 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1629503970.20070918223950@rulez.sk> To: ben wilber In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:12:03 -0000 Hello ben, Tuesday, September 18, 2007, 9:38:50 PM, you wrote: > Hi, > What do people think of having a little more of our own PF > documentation in the Handbook? It's quickly becoming a popular > firewall package and the Handbook doesn't really do it justice. Why would we, when a very great PF documentation is maintained by OpenBSD guys at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ ? -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 22:12:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435A516A417 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D828A13C469 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:12:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 20612 invoked by uid 399); 18 Sep 2007 21:45:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO slave.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTP; 18 Sep 2007 21:45:31 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: ben wilber In-Reply-To: <20070918205107.GB46655@bitcloud.desync.com> Message-ID: References: <1629503970.20070918223950@rulez.sk> <20070918205107.GB46655@bitcloud.desync.com> X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0xD5B2F0FB Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:12:13 -0000 On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, ben wilber wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:39:50PM +0200, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > >> Why would we, when a very great PF documentation is maintained by >> OpenBSD guys at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ ? > > Because the PF FAQ reads more like an instruction manual than a FAQ. I > don't think the casual user looking to set up basic firewall > functionality on their FreeBSD machine needs to be presented with CIDR > lessons. Perhaps you could suggest an outline for the basic firewall setup that you have in mind, to which we could add a link to the openbsd faq. Having something that fits our style is good, but we want to avoid not using something just because it's NIH. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 10:10:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8D916A41B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9FB13C458 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8JAA2RJ028937 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:10:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8JAA2jb028936; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:10:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:10:02 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200709191010.l8JAA2jb028936@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Alexey Dokuchaev" Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F20216A417 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ru.asempra.com (ru.asempra.com [80.64.81.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5714813C467 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@FreeBSD.org) Received: from stan.asempra.local (stan.asempra.local [192.168.33.20]) by ru.asempra.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l8J9oAUx015296 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:50:16 +0700 Message-Id: <1190195323.18655@stan.asempra.local> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:48:43 +0700 From: "Alexey Dokuchaev" To: "FreeBSD gnats submit" X-Send-Pr-Version: gtk-send-pr 0.4.8 Cc: Subject: docs/116459: [Porters' Handbook] Thing to watch out while adding patches with lots of useless whitespace changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:10:02 -0000 >Number: 116459 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Porters' Handbook] Thing to watch out while adding patches with lots of useless whitespace changes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 19 10:10:01 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Dokuchaev >Release: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Jul 11 20:20:23 NOVST 2007 root@stan.asempra.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LITE >Description: I've seen on several occasions that people do not use their best judgement when fixing some problematic issue with their ports, by committing huge patches that consist mostly of non-functional whitespace. Those are, despite being huge, make people's lived significantly harder if they decide to find out the root of the problem, since they'd have to deal with tons of "noise" hunks while reading such patches. Attached is my quick'n'dirty attept to write appropriate warning paragraph in Porters' Book. It probably nees some polishing. It also contains indentation nit along the way. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- diff begins here --- Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.870 diff -u -r1.870 book.sgml --- book.sgml 9 Sep 2007 00:24:33 -0000 1.870 +++ book.sgml 19 Sep 2007 09:39:23 -0000 @@ -680,8 +680,18 @@ autoconf to regenerate configure, do not take the diffs of configure (it often grows to a few thousand - lines!); define USE_AUTOTOOLS=autoconf:253 and take the - diffs of configure.in. + lines!); define USE_AUTOTOOLS=autoconf:253 and + take the diffs of configure.in. + + Also, try to minimize the amount of non-functional whitespace + in your patches. It is common in Open Source world for projects + to share large amount of code base, but obey different style and + indent rules. If you take working piece of functionality from one + project to fix similar area in another, be careful: resulting + several-thousand line patch may be well worth of non-functional + changes. Besides increasing the size of CVS repository, it makes + other people's trying to find out exactly what had caused the + problem lives harder. If you had to delete a file, then you can do it in the post-extract target rather than as part of --- diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 16:10:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2413A16A41A for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08BE13C4B3 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8JGA2Ni046063 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8JGA2C8046034; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:02 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200709191610.l8JGA2C8046034@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Philip Schulz Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43F816A420 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B445313C4B6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8JG9kl8017719 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:09:46 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8JG9kRL017718; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:09:46 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200709191609.l8JG9kRL017718@www.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:09:46 GMT From: Philip Schulz To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/116471: crypto(9): Camellia Algorithm needs to be added X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:10:08 -0000 >Number: 116471 >Category: docs >Synopsis: crypto(9): Camellia Algorithm needs to be added >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 19 16:10:02 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Philip Schulz >Release: CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD freebsd 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Sep 12 18:11:11 CEST 2007 root@freebsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: The Camellia Algorithm was integrated in May 2007, yet the crypto(9) man page has never been updated. >How-To-Repeat: man 9 crypto and see for yourself ;) >Fix: Patch attached with submission follows: Index: share/man/man9/crypto.9 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man9/crypto.9,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 crypto.9 --- share/man/man9/crypto.9 14 Dec 2006 14:33:13 -0000 1.13 +++ share/man/man9/crypto.9 19 Sep 2007 15:53:17 -0000 @@ -192,6 +192,8 @@ .It Dv CRYPTO_SHA2_256_HMAC .It Dv CRYPTO_SHA2_384_HMAC .It Dv CRYPTO_SHA2_512_HMAC +.It Dv CRYPTO_CAMELLIA_CBC .It Dv CRYPTO_NULL_HMAC .It Dv CRYPTO_NULL_CBC .El >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 16:18:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2A516A417 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADB113C4D0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so36182ele for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RWwMBHvWvlRgOIjWpl6guSKe1vLdcRfvA3IjXQ3Xk1A=; b=FmrhkVA8Cl0Qjq7CPGKO1GjER1KkHOx33lSPvkHTWpiwF1TZXvrvmuVxQ4TPbkxCeIkbCjgyAJZo8elS27YecXLlvsdtQ0geskgl5aTzMXql7C3F8uM1jmn/webgOPaysm2Gz3ini4TiXF5JosP98EYKGct6+WxA3P+tIw7UQAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hpsfu3QhpuQXIXkOtIcJFgZKn6BmWNiJ4uPtvtaVoHMgJ7YO0dK6jROMjaWGP+22hwbvABV9Edvva03OzwqN5lHA2OlA0oT2Z9/vr3VajCDStUjThY3TEqx8Wd29HkHLzq6tzLK0m0f1+CLlnux2CxLBs8ZP0I0ngTa9AMAk3DM= Received: by 10.142.147.15 with SMTP id u15mr303241wfd.1190218685953; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.14.9 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47d0403c0709190918o23f1fda7k1b09517c29cee407@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:18:05 -0400 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Murray Stokely" In-Reply-To: <474078f80709180749h5aa1ade0we8483bab19af7bf8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <474078f80709140106u1e1efb71n2f75b65940886f7c@mail.gmail.com> <84dead720709180737i6cbe12a2m71cea9fd2b07c7f0@mail.gmail.com> <474078f80709180749h5aa1ade0we8483bab19af7bf8@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Matt Olander Subject: Re: PC-BSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:18:07 -0000 On 9/18/07, Murray Stokely wrote: > On 9/18/07, Joseph Koshy wrote: [snip] > > What about finer grain content differences---those one paragraph > > or one sentence differences that are best handled inline? SGML > > conditional includes for those? > > Yea. We'll aim to minimize those where possible, but I don't think > this will be too onerous. There are a handful of places where we did > this for output.print for html/print output differences. I'm really > glad we have the &os entity that can be updated to say 'PC-BSD' now. > > - Murray Of course, the &os entity is not used entirely consistently in the handbook. In fact, it is used so inconsistently that I did not change it during my (ongoing) sweep through the handbook (originally for grammar nits, but got stalled a bit in updating the multimedia chapter). It may be useful to go through and change all of the (appropriate) literal FreeBSD's into &os-es at once, prior to doing includes. -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 16:29:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F2316A468; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026F013C4CA; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8JGTefU046767; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:29:40 GMT (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8JGTeI4046763; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:29:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from brueffer) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:29:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200709191629.l8JGTeI4046763@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phs@deadc0.de, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: brueffer@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/116471: crypto(9): Camellia Algorithm needs to be added X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:29:41 -0000 Synopsis: crypto(9): Camellia Algorithm needs to be added State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 19 18:28:58 CEST 2007 State-Changed-Why: Added the algorithm, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116471 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 16:30:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D93C16A418 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BEC13C46E for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8JGUBD6046870 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:30:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8JGUBhT046869; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:30:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:30:11 GMT Message-Id: <200709191630.l8JGUBhT046869@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/116471: commit references a PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dfilter service List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:30:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/116471; it has been noted by GNATS. From: dfilter@FreeBSD.ORG (dfilter service) To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/116471: commit references a PR Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:28:56 +0000 (UTC) brueffer 2007-09-19 16:28:46 UTC FreeBSD src repository Modified files: share/man/man9 crypto.9 Log: Update the table of supported algorithms: - Group hash functions together and sort - Add CRYPTO_CAMELLIA_CBC (1) PR: 116471 Submitted by: Philip Schulz (1) Approved by: re (blanket) Revision Changes Path 1.14 +10 -9 src/share/man/man9/crypto.9 _______________________________________________ cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 20 02:30:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE7A16A41B for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3123513C469 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8K2U2hI079653 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:30:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8K2U1WU079652; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:30:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:30:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200709200230.l8K2U1WU079652@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Ighighi Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105F916A417 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E865013C468 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8K2Le6e033010 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:21:40 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8K2LeaX033008; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:21:40 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200709200221.l8K2LeaX033008@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:21:40 GMT From: Ighighi To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/116480: sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies since 5.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:30:02 -0000 >Number: 116480 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies since 5.0 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 20 02:30:01 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ighighi >Release: 6.2-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD orion 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 18 04:58:38 VET 2007 root@orion:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 >Description: Quoting sysctl(3): KERN_FILE Return the entire file table. The returned data consists of a single struct filehead followed by an array of struct file, whose size depends on the current number of such objects in the system. This is no longer the case since 5.0. The entire file table is an array of "struct xfile" structures (defined in ). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 20 21:07:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF6416A55E for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF0E13C4A7 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8KHOiVD031594 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:24:44 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8KHOioF031563 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:24:44 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:24:44 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200709201724.l8KHOioF031563@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:07:20 -0000 ? 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From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 20 22:20:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D103916A474 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2CE13C461 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8KMK4kf056454 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:20:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8KMK4T8056453; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:20:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:20:04 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200709202220.l8KMK4T8056453@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Jeremy Chadwick Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED7B16A420 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from sccrmhc15.comcast.net (sccrmhc15.comcast.net [204.127.200.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67C13C47E for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([76.102.163.80]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc15) with ESMTP id <200709201858010150060qute>; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:58:01 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC4725084D; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20070920185800.BC4725084D@icarus.home.lan> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Chadwick To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/116496: SCTP acronym meaning incorrectly documented X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jeremy Chadwick List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:20:04 -0000 >Number: 116496 >Category: docs >Synopsis: SCTP acronym meaning incorrectly documented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 20 22:20:03 GMT 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jeremy Chadwick >Release: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD icarus.home.lan 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Sep 19 00:59:34 PDT 2007 root@icarus.home.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ICARUS i386 >Description: All the FreeBSD 7.x documentation I've seen for SCTP refers to it as: Stream Transmission Control Protocol This is incorrect. It's actually Stream Control Transmission Protocol, which makes more sense (in regards to what it does), and when expanding the acronym itself. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: sctp.4 needs to be updated, for sure. I'm not sure what other docs refer to the incorrectly-expanded acronym. The GENERIC kernel configuration also needs its # comment updated too. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 05:03:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBE616A418; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from guardian.elvandar.org (evilcoder.xs4all.nl [195.64.94.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1271613C45D; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: by guardian.elvandar.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A94A7EDD78; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:10:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:10:05 +0200 From: Remko Lodder To: World Wide Web Owner Message-ID: <20070920211005.GC67835@elvandar.org> References: <200709201724.l8KHOioF031563@www.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200709201724.l8KHOioF031563@www.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:03:14 -0000 On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 05:24:44PM +0000, World Wide Web Owner wrote: > /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/commercial.consult.xml:843: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: a line 838 and description > > ^ > /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/commercial.consult.xml:844: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: description line 837 and entry > > ^ > /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/commercial.consult.xml:2733: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: entry line 834 and entries > > ^ > /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/commercial.consult.xml:2734: parser error : Premature end of data in tag entries line 6 > > ^ > unable to parse /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/commercial.consult.xml > *** Error code 6 > > Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/commercial. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. > 1.73 real 0.49 user 0.49 sys I touched these last, so I think I did something wrong... Investigating :-) -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org FreeBSD ** remko@FreeBSD.org /* Quis custodiet ipsos custodes */ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 07:38:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F2716A418 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlazauskas@alna.lt) Received: from TRITON.alna.lt (triton.alna.lt [213.226.165.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7897D13C45D for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlazauskas@alna.lt) Received: from EUROPA.alna.lt (europa1.alna.lt) by TRITON.alna.lt (ALNA) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:28:15 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:28:14 +0300 Message-ID: <664A496753E6F84B92516744FFFBFF1B05B24449@EUROPA.alna.lt> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 11.9 Debugging Deadlocks Thread-Index: Acf8IPjNTaMLhzbYT5uORN33QT6f6w== From: "Mantas Lazauskas" To: Cc: Subject: 11.9 Debugging Deadlocks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:38:27 -0000 Hi, using guide on page http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ker neldebug-deadlocks.html but my kernel (GENERIC conf file, just pasted options from page above) does not compile with "options DEBUG_LOCKS" cvsuped today; tag=3DRELENG_6; i386 Just wanted to inform in case docs are outdated or something From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 17:27:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0E716A417 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6262A13C43E for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8LHRNHn054758 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:23 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8LHRN2J054757 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:23 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:23 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200709211727.l8LHRN2J054757@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:27:23 -0000 ===> doc/articles/nanobsd (all) ===> doc/articles/new-users (all) ===> doc/articles/p4-primer (all) ===> doc/articles/pam (all) ===> doc/articles/portbuild (all) ===> doc/articles/pr-guidelines (all) ===> doc/articles/problem-reports (all) ===> doc/articles/pxe (all) ===> doc/articles/rc-scripting (all) ===> doc/articles/relaydelay (all) ===> doc/articles/releng (all) ===> doc/articles/releng-packages (all) ===> doc/articles/serial-uart (all) ===> doc/articles/solid-state (all) ===> doc/articles/storage-devices (all) ===> doc/articles/version-guide (all) ===> doc/articles/vinum (all) ===> doc/articles/vm-design (all) ===> doc/articles/wp-toolbox (all) ===> doc/articles/zip-drive (all) ===> doc/books (all) ===> doc/books/arch-handbook (all) ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide (all) ===> doc/books/design-44bsd (all) ===> doc/books/dev-model (all) ===> doc/books/developers-handbook (all) ===> doc/books/faq (all) ===> doc/books/fdp-primer (all) ===> doc/books/handbook (all) ===> doc/books/pmake (all) ===> doc/books/porters-handbook (all) Index is disabled or no index to generate. /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -D /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/../../../share/images/books/porters-handbook -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml:11288:9:E: end tag for element "ROW" which is not open *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 155.15 real 107.32 user 22.22 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 19:13:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4211516A419 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38D613C45A for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so691048nzf for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:13:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=jd5j+KZ1xY7XJUSwWePas1iFf+CCu+17AeyjveliRqM=; b=jPR91CzeKqiDofjmUv2oUk5USUPfB2Gz8fNQvUTQBmO6yqRyNmOUAauRCv1ipxcQg58fs4sc5WCD2mLfhxWQc+4auiFap/zNdgbrjKZ91fnGau5UG6zjZ4MZBgLyVqRNFmqdjamLY+S6ttHSuVMIRCvp8ks07MOgl7Z/DTwY2lg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DUltdFLLl16I5oCe68Fo7KVDrGEWX31HAEhGAu8lQIauV1DImEQsRjtsUhuOSPaGF5PmMBA9VpOCEKEga+lwC4zUkGGPjfATxZqLCHn68zAl6TD/q3EsuZP9OnTRH4S3lM+uRkUaianmK9CBHS0Gep7vZEIJtqWfB5Qy60Umbjs= Received: by 10.65.93.19 with SMTP id v19mr1566762qbl.1190402014823; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.200.6 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:13:34 -0400 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:13:37 -0000 Hi -doc, I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s (somewhat) new daily snapshot builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use literals for these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven't found yet? Thanks, Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 22:51:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D734B16A419 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE7F13C43E for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8320710E7A5; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:49:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m2CZ5FPuPoDZ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:49:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC28910E794; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:49:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:51:16 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> To: "Ben Kaduk" In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:51:48 -0000 Hello Ben, Friday, September 21, 2007, 9:13:34 PM, you wrote: > Hi -doc, > I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s > (somewhat) new daily snapshot > builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use literals for > these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven't found yet? As far as I know, we do not have entities for architectures. -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 01:26:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1967E16A419 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F286D13C44B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8M1Q4Sm026780 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:26:04 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8M1Q4ZA026779 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:26:04 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:26:04 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200709220126.l8M1Q4ZA026779@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:26:05 -0000 ===> doc/articles/nanobsd (all) ===> doc/articles/new-users (all) ===> doc/articles/p4-primer (all) ===> doc/articles/pam (all) ===> doc/articles/portbuild (all) ===> doc/articles/pr-guidelines (all) ===> doc/articles/problem-reports (all) ===> doc/articles/pxe (all) ===> doc/articles/rc-scripting (all) ===> doc/articles/relaydelay (all) ===> doc/articles/releng (all) ===> doc/articles/releng-packages (all) ===> doc/articles/serial-uart (all) ===> doc/articles/solid-state (all) ===> doc/articles/storage-devices (all) ===> doc/articles/version-guide (all) ===> doc/articles/vinum (all) ===> doc/articles/vm-design (all) ===> doc/articles/wp-toolbox (all) ===> doc/articles/zip-drive (all) ===> doc/books (all) ===> doc/books/arch-handbook (all) ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide (all) ===> doc/books/design-44bsd (all) ===> doc/books/dev-model (all) ===> doc/books/developers-handbook (all) ===> doc/books/faq (all) ===> doc/books/fdp-primer (all) ===> doc/books/handbook (all) ===> doc/books/pmake (all) ===> doc/books/porters-handbook (all) Index is disabled or no index to generate. /usr/bin/env SP_ENCODING=ISO-8859-1 /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd.dsl -ifreebsd.urls.relprefix.4 -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -V %generate-docformat-navi-link% -ioutput.html.images -D /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/../../../share/images/books/porters-handbook -D /usr/obj/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook -c /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog.ports -t sgml /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml > book.html || (/bin/rm -f book.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml:11288:9:E: end tag for element "ROW" which is not open *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 95.99 real 71.84 user 18.30 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 13:09:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB5716A46B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF513C478 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Fdd36.f.ppp-pool.de [195.4.221.54]) (Authenticated sender: ncf1534p2) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0FDDE80B3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:47:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 482F315219; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:45:07 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.devel.documentation Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:45:07 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <200709201724.l8KHOioF031563@www.freebsd.org> <20070920211005.GC67835@elvandar.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunny.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1190465107 77568 192.168.100.5 (22 Sep 2007 12:45:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD/6.2-RELEASE-p7 (sparc64)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:09:33 -0000 On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:10:05 +0200 Remko Lodder wrote: > I touched these last, so I think I did something wrong... Investigating :-) That's a relief! I thought that I had messed up something over here. :-) Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 16:26:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B13816A419; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7A913C4A8; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from bruce-a-mahs-computer.local (hornet.kitchenlab.org [64.142.31.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l8MGPx5H031509 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:26:02 -0700 Message-ID: <46F541FD.8040807@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:25:33 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Gerzo References: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> In-Reply-To: <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=5ba052c3 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig942338569D2334678BDBCF37" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:26:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig942338569D2334678BDBCF37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Daniel Gerzo wrote: >> I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s >> (somewhat) new daily snapshot >> builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use litera= ls for >> these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven't = found yet? >=20 > As far as I know, we do not have entities for architectures. The release documents grew these entities fairly recently...see src/release/doc/share/sgml/release.ent (on HEAD only at the moment). Bruce. --------------enig942338569D2334678BDBCF37 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9UIB2MoxcVugUsMRAunTAKD5sLvwEYOh+kJTMgfXPMiTlDp5JgCgq7Di BrlGKKuasDuJXZgWt8fNU78= =hvz9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig942338569D2334678BDBCF37-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 16:46:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA70616A419 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EBC13C4A5 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so940878rvb for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:46:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fET1pwXxa3ay3azxJC53atlYBzlcK9NOoQNuV8lTJOs=; b=mITlpWMfZLm4alBjE6uNEbria4fmeJPLlOv4LS5L9hlXhG+W/GPbO7rDxMdm8AUXx/gu+trTlM1lzCGjDV4Dn3cN3vdyXkeEA+BxCeOAsBiPLDShAx7g6oYR0dlqH854tkzMzLR+/lwyzw1XGSFsTbVg3n8WosCqY4dXy2T9KXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jysOEuL+0h3HYAx1C9CfpIQyKhz17rbOxGC+upPUhOszYLPFdBVhwsMxOHy/18A3Jt/OSXtdLicSsi3VdXqWHx7YSbkFpc6rbN9MVuPrSsVdUr36zP2S4T2m1Jlt1wVhSCaw7fFO4UX4WHPq0XhDzxwgw+sJHXqgyex1DbT1i8g= Received: by 10.142.113.17 with SMTP id l17mr332403wfc.1190479599224; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.14.9 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47d0403c0709220946q323af62ah1c4565b31f2677a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:46:39 +0000 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Bruce A. Mah" In-Reply-To: <46F541FD.8040807@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> <46F541FD.8040807@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:46:39 -0000 On 9/22/07, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > > >> I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s > >> (somewhat) new daily snapshot > >> builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use literals for > >> these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven't found yet? > > > > As far as I know, we do not have entities for architectures. > > The release documents grew these entities fairly recently...see > src/release/doc/share/sgml/release.ent (on HEAD only at the moment). But is release.ent pulled into the build of books/faq/book.sgml ? -Ben Kaduk > > Bruce. > > > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 16:52:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E9416A468 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B2813C44B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmah@freebsd.org) Received: from bruce-a-mahs-computer.local (hornet.kitchenlab.org [64.142.31.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l8MGqChI018641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:52:13 -0700 Message-ID: <46F54826.7040608@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:51:50 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Mah" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> <46F541FD.8040807@freebsd.org> <47d0403c0709220946q323af62ah1c4565b31f2677a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0709220946q323af62ah1c4565b31f2677a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 OpenPGP: id=5ba052c3 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB918D9545EDAC5F9B126DA0A" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:52:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB918D9545EDAC5F9B126DA0A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Ben Kaduk wrote: > On 9/22/07, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >> If memory serves me right, Daniel Gerzo wrote: >> >>>> I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s >>>> (somewhat) new daily snapshot >>>> builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use lite= rals for >>>> these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven'= t found yet? >>> As far as I know, we do not have entities for architectures. >> The release documents grew these entities fairly recently...see >> src/release/doc/share/sgml/release.ent (on HEAD only at the moment). >=20 > But is release.ent pulled into the build of books/faq/book.sgml ? Ah sorry, I was unclear (no caffeine yet this morning). What I meant to say was that the release documents use this set of entities and that if you want to add entities for doc/ tree documents, using the same names might be good. Apologies for the confusion, I'm off to go make some tea now... Bruce --------------enigB918D9545EDAC5F9B126DA0A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9Ugm2MoxcVugUsMRAv6WAJ4g9gfwaCiX3khLcDkw9U+52DGJOQCg4CcO Bmer2hbInl3NMAvPtTVs4kM= =dFzp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB918D9545EDAC5F9B126DA0A-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 17:05:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BD516A419 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B7D13C457 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so943787rvb for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:05:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=50dp6ZZgJnAieiIAqYKtOyyqo7wp1HCIiesrbEBmWIw=; b=dDpm3doM1AoBdBJUpSJ9HeMqNBUWvfPl1atWT6Wh7rwnJol0HgjuliXF/IkAdXv6ScoQwIjG3hi6G7VsdNpWFaDEsT8UhSen40Cf/U5H7kX1roglb5V6Y+incz4ky/DyAoUf5zaG1UWx6U7eMmnyNGVUaa/xQtDDg5fimULYzGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sl8fzZUQ8X1XXO9MN1hibLilkBm9qtZ6CbYbIe48Y773RR65Ln5bsFZph755hXotI7cm8MS51pKQTUuHJzZNeLZyp7+qfonqu8AxHZu85m4oStg4130RlLewjy5ZL6QiclOOgcU/kiWsVxSdSrTvjn/wSVGD8brxBh9rzrmSc2I= Received: by 10.142.214.5 with SMTP id m5mr885549wfg.1190480753540; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.14.9 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47d0403c0709221005t4a13f32bt9c56b5ef98283290@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:05:53 +0000 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Dmitry Morozovsky" In-Reply-To: <20070922205156.K70319@woozle.rinet.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> <46F541FD.8040807@freebsd.org> <47d0403c0709220946q323af62ah1c4565b31f2677a@mail.gmail.com> <20070922205156.K70319@woozle.rinet.ru> Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:05:54 -0000 On 9/22/07, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Ben Kaduk wrote: > > BK> > >> I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s > BK> > >> (somewhat) new daily snapshot > BK> > >> builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use literals for > BK> > >> these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven't found yet? [snip] > I can see in share/sgml/freebsd.ent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is from rev 1.93 of freebsd.ent: > > date: 2007/08/11 19:17:41; author: bmah; state: Exp; lines: +15 -0 > Add &arch.*; entities for the various architectures. These > should only be used when referring to a version of FreeBSD on > a specific architecture, e.g. &os;/&arch.i386;. Use other, > already existing entities (such as &i386;) when talking generically > about an architecture, in order to attribute trademarks correctly. > > Thanks, Dmitry. These seem reasonable to describe danger@'s daily builds of FreeBSD-i386 and FreeBSD-amd64. I'm just surprised that I didn't see them before; I thought I looked in share/sgml/ -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 17:06:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3781116A420; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB7C13C478; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8MGtudS060930; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:55:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:55:56 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Ben Kaduk In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0709220946q323af62ah1c4565b31f2677a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070922205156.K70319@woozle.rinet.ru> References: <47d0403c0709211213n50988b33u2b9bdd15475bfcdd@mail.gmail.com> <1217454532.20070922005116@rulez.sk> <46F541FD.8040807@freebsd.org> <47d0403c0709220946q323af62ah1c4565b31f2677a@mail.gmail.com> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 6B691B03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (woozle.rinet.ru [0.0.0.0]); Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:55:56 +0400 (MSD) Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sgml entities for CPU architectures? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:06:10 -0000 On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Ben Kaduk wrote: BK> > >> I'm updating my patch to the FAQ (docs/115000) for danger@'s BK> > >> (somewhat) new daily snapshot BK> > >> builds, which are specific to x86 and amd64. Should I just use literals for BK> > >> these architectures, or are the entity-ified somewhere that I haven't found yet? BK> > > BK> > > As far as I know, we do not have entities for architectures. BK> > BK> > The release documents grew these entities fairly recently...see BK> > src/release/doc/share/sgml/release.ent (on HEAD only at the moment). BK> BK> But is release.ent pulled into the build of books/faq/book.sgml ? I can see in share/sgml/freebsd.ent: This is from rev 1.93 of freebsd.ent: date: 2007/08/11 19:17:41; author: bmah; state: Exp; lines: +15 -0 Add &arch.*; entities for the various architectures. These should only be used when referring to a version of FreeBSD on a specific architecture, e.g. &os;/&arch.i386;. Use other, already existing entities (such as &i386;) when talking generically about an architecture, in order to attribute trademarks correctly. Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: marck@FreeBSD.org ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 17:40:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219BC16A418 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B8013C4BA for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8MHe6oo007876 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:06 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8MHe6m5007875; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:06 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:06 GMT Message-Id: <200709221740.l8MHe6m5007875@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: "Ben Kaduk" Cc: Subject: Re: docs/115000: [PATCH] nits and updates to FAQs (part 1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ben Kaduk List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:40:07 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/115000; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ben Kaduk" To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/115000: [PATCH] nits and updates to FAQs (part 1) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:33:49 -0400 An updated diff is inlined below, but I think gmail may mangle the whitespace, so a text file is also available at http://web.mit.edu/kaduk/www/freebsd/patches/faq/book.sgml.diff.0.txt -Ben Kaduk --------- begin inline patch ------------ --- book.sgml.orig 2007-07-23 21:26:10.000000000 -0400 +++ book.sgml 2007-09-22 13:29:06.000000000 -0400 @@ -367,11 +367,11 @@ groups on the -CURRENT mailing list may be treated with contempt. - Every day, Every month, snapshot releases are made based on the current state of the - -CURRENT and -STABLE branches. Distributions of the - occasional snapshot are made available. The goals + -CURRENT and -STABLE branches. + The goals behind each snapshot release are: @@ -391,7 +391,7 @@ To preserve a fixed reference point for the code in question, just in case we break something really badly later. (Although CVS normally prevents anything horrible - like this happening :) + like this happening :) ) @@ -410,8 +410,11 @@ Snapshot releases are directly available from snapshot. - Snapshots are generated, on the average, daily for - all actively developed branches. + Official snapshots are generated, on the average, monthly for + all actively developed branches. There are also + daily snapshot builds of the popular &arch.i386; + and &arch.amd64 branches, hosted on + snapshots.us.freebsd.org. @@ -432,7 +435,7 @@ only well-tested bug fixes and other small incremental enhancements. FreeBSD-CURRENT, on the other hand, has been one unbroken line since 2.0 was released, leading - towards 6.2-RELEASE and beyond. Just before 6.0-RELEASE, the + towards 6.3-RELEASE and beyond. Just before 6.0-RELEASE, the 6-STABLE branch was created, and &os.current; became 7-CURRENT. For more detailed information, see @@ -467,7 +470,7 @@ The &a.re; releases a new version of FreeBSD about every - four months, on average. Release dates are announced well in + eight months, on average. Release dates are announced well in advance, so that the people working on the system know when their projects need to be finished and tested. A testing period precedes each release, in order to ensure @@ -532,7 +535,7 @@ - Snapshot releases are made daily for the + Snapshot releases are made monthly for the -CURRENT and -STABLE branch, these being of service purely to bleeding-edge testers and @@ -561,7 +564,7 @@ The Problem Report database of all user change requests may be queried by using our web-based PR + url="http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?query"> query interface.