From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 15:23:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C595E16A401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8B7213C442 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 35139 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2007 13:02:15 -0200 Received: from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(201.58.76.173):. Processed in 0.595958 secs); 05 Feb 2007 15:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.69.69.8?) (lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br@201.58.76.173) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 13:02:14 -0200 Message-ID: <45C745BF.3080600@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:57:03 -0200 From: Felippe de Meirelles Motta Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:23:57 -0000 Hi people, Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during the boot ? Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is above hold mfid0: on mfi0 mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal My hardware informations are: Dell Poweredge 840 BIOS A01 Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 3 HDs in RAID 5 I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix. Thanks! :) -- Atenciosamente, Felippe de Meirelles Motta FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 20:15:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D0216A402 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infernal211283.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F9713C442 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infernal211283.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1025197ana for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:15:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bnpmkvTOOXbWZTg8XH7WF9uBYCgOAKnfGerKtmg71KWqy+ttbElPH2RhdjqqQa5ScbqlSFwQ8MrI6E3r+t1b8eRVXqVS8x28J0ooQk6Qwru+4fnruRAiOfY8tBmFrgJ57DwoA989fjv1UPqsa8Coag598N/4nsrcRwwy2ZKzLwg= Received: by 10.100.190.8 with SMTP id n8mr5300762anf.1170705042336; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.30.16 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:50:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <22d026f00702051150x11fa4b0ep7094436733b4d0e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:50:42 +0200 From: "Dan A." To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g - Any support for it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:15:50 -0000 Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on MSI M670, it has a wireless card which I didn't find support for. My lspci -v show this: "04:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Unknown device b833 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18 Memory at febf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2" and from M$ window$ it it looks like this: "802.11g MiniPCI Wireless Adapter" and it works fine on window$ so I know it's not broken. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 20:59:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C5216A517 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9474913C4C2 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so2174750nfc for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:59:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=td+UxC4q3k6iTxG6pu2A738xDiE5Gdukum2RPaeGupr9Tga8pny48NulOd2ddYhtKejSI8ZWK/ZZlPvYOIFN9nsbT9XB7XdgWAR1wmYoVzO/WFasP6Y1xYCBhH9cKTWbRaCBK+snW3vVDIwDj6iT1fnb+ETo3xqQ3YH4TRxtPZ8= Received: by 10.82.169.4 with SMTP id r4mr443905bue.1170709140401; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:59:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90702051259ta82e2efw805ba99dfeec1652@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:59:00 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Dan A." In-Reply-To: <22d026f00702051150x11fa4b0ep7094436733b4d0e8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <22d026f00702051150x11fa4b0ep7094436733b4d0e8@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a137905dfa469998 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g - Any support for it? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:59:04 -0000 Might have to "kldload if_ral". If that works (device shows up after an ifconfig), you'll have to modify /boot/loader.conf to always load if_ral on startup. I have one of these exact cards, but since it's not HP certified, my bios freezes the system if you put it in, hence, haven't tested it. "man wlan" seems to state that it is supported, however. Steve On 2/5/07, Dan A. wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.2 on MSI M670, it has a wireless card which I didn't > find support for. > > My lspci -v show this: > > "04:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g > Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Unknown device b833 > Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18 > Memory at febf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) > Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2" > > and from M$ window$ it it looks like this: > > "802.11g MiniPCI Wireless Adapter" > > and it works fine on window$ so I know it's not broken. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 21:50:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C383816A406 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8FE13C46B for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 21:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l15LoX3n064131; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:50:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:28:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45C745BF.3080600@freebsdbrasil.com.br> In-Reply-To: <45C745BF.3080600@freebsdbrasil.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702051628.02501.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:50:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2525/Mon Feb 5 11:11:08 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:50:38 -0000 On Monday 05 February 2007 09:57, Felippe de Meirelles Motta wrote: > Hi people, > > Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during > the boot ? > > Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: > > mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: > Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) > mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal > mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is > above hold > mfid0: on mfi0 > mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal > > My hardware informations are: > > Dell Poweredge 840 > BIOS A01 > Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation > PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 > 3 HDs in RAID 5 > > I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! > > I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i > don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix. It was fixed in 6.2, but you only have 1 volume. You might have a different problem rather than an mfi(4) problem. You can try disabling SMP as a workaround for now to see if it doesn't hang at boot. > Thanks! :) > > -- > > Atenciosamente, > Felippe de Meirelles Motta > FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. > http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 15:25:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E8F16A402 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D290A13C4AC for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1556288uge for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:25:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NGfAPZdt6laW8el02G7mbGc5FoscmnURQVHI3gOM5udXv/vwCgJD/4MX2yheAZRvlFhjFFMjCefzwKFCZJ90doJnHg+uF9o9OnbfXRK/NdLM2XgImfzET9gM8LQwIUhA9CzyPT8vjmuWFRLyIxVgnyD9WyngvMiyHJ8SqWQnUBQ= Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr4570309buc.1170774065654; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.134.15 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:01:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0702060701u4741dc0bie40ab3442aa2a979@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:01:05 +0000 From: Chris To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: nforce4 on freebsd 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:25:37 -0000 I noticed one of my servers works much better in freebsd 5 noticeably it is faster and more stable. I then found this post. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2005-May/050529.html and http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=75540 So in freebsd 5.x there was limited nforce 4 support for pata devices and a patch made to support sata devices, so I checked the same file on freebsd 6.2 and there is no reference to ATA_NFORCE4 at all in the file, checked 5.4 and sure enough its there. So my question is why did ata-chipset.c in 2004 have some support for nforce4 and a patch in current which I think was 6.x at the time have support for sata and now nforce4 is completely wiped in 6.x? Was it not stable and scrapped for timescale to release or some other reason? nforce4 is a fairly popular chipset. My 150 sata hd is running in some sort of compatibility mode now as a result of the lack of a driver. Chris From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 6 23:53:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94B16A408 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: from web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7795313C4A6 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drumslayer2@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 11609 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Feb 2007 23:26:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZO0lvYfU8lx2rBgcD+zTK8rOfn3Q+a2+TLdWv99UwzxpbWHfT8sIGY1a602zFDek9xnPUSmiGqJmv10sNZ8m+RDtUil1vs47S1q3M2b0UrHeopAzmOFbZ/ZAMwcvEhTBfu6p73MQj7O2LWMXNsxK6NLhZquUB5YePapujs+Rq6s=; X-YMail-OSG: 9H9L8LcVM1n3G1X4v_Cx4J5sW5B568hRuUcK8CK6ql1vDDGbtYgvMjTvX08CJpqKlEF0idQNMDbaknZ96cuxR4L.rzPwYc47EHAn5ycsa4EpDxXRdTfLz8DPDjao73HzPhfvuHx3B_ZphwiM20Ox0xqBnvnUGnZSudXr88VuXmgjMG8XRAqUcliVhGgKa63.USg- Received: from [67.112.21.26] by web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:26:27 PST Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:26:27 -0800 (PST) From: "N. Harrington" To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <932351.10276.qm@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Problem with Serverworks HT1000 serial ATA support - Tyan S3992 Motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:53:08 -0000 Hello I am testing out a new tyan motherboard that uses the next generation of AMD chips and the Serverworks Chipset. It seems that I can reliably crash it with a simple bonnie++ test if I set: /boot/loader.conf - Used for DiskD for Squid kern.ipc.msgtql=2048 I am using FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE amd64. This all works just fine on a non Serverworks Chipset Tyan Board. (literaly I unplug the drive and move it to another system and it works and works in production) If I run: bonnie++ -d /home -u root s1g The system reboots. I have tried this is both S-ATA and P-ATA emulation. Any ideas on why this setting, which works on non Serverworks boards, would make the Serverworks so twitchy? Thanks Nicole atapci0: port 0xb080-0xb087,0xb000-0xb003,0xac00-0xac07 ,0xa880-0xa883,0xa800-0xa81f mem 0xff4fe000-0xff4fffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci1 S-ATA: ad4: 70911MB at ata2-master SATA150 OR P-ATA: ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable ad4: 70911MB at ata2-master UDMA33 /boot/loader.conf kern.ipc.msgtql=2048 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 15:54:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C00D16A41B for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdgroup.md@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6755F13C4E3 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdgroup.md@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so207581uge for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:54:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=gSfhgPcZ2305autjg1RRosfjFXC0qxa1eudJjfWUCirAk2o7T3wInNmwM1b7lGIzLQ9xixdG/sKpDLlFUPMlY33NHI8bUJ65nGeUqqD5iMaoHGH6IV7UDR6xq0EtBXZwtiZljwP+afPyNiSp7Jywt2vBAfqhbPOmvIBW0a0aTAQ= Received: by 10.82.189.5 with SMTP id m5mr2196497buf.1170861959181; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.5.2? ( [83.218.199.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 32sm1400275ugf.2007.02.07.07.25.57; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:25:57 -0800 (PST) From: rsh To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:24:55 +0200 Message-Id: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:54:17 -0000 Hi For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or Fireware I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0 It takes power directly from USB. Did somebody have success with this device? If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? Thanks From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 17:13:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3D16A49C for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott@sremick.net) Received: from out5.smtp.messagingengine.com (out5.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F1813C4A7 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott@sremick.net) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86D11A900B for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:49:53 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: gBvZYNSNx3yewRPQc2az7eA5b5aLFum0eVvuObK7ALj9 1170866993 Received: from [10.185.6.114] (unknown [65.213.7.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D7A1AA9C for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:49:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45CA0331.2090500@sremick.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:49:53 -0500 From: "Scott I. Remick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Building new AM2 system, advice needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:13:50 -0000 So it's been a while, but I'm ready to build a replacement system for my desktop. It seems a lot has changed since I last built one, and the decisions (hardware support) are foggier than last time. I'm not so rich that I can afford to keep buying stuff and sending it back, so I could use some advice. My criteria are: AMD socket AM2 (going to use a 65W Athlon64 X2 Windsor, as Brisbane doesn't seem better) DDR2 (800 preferred) integrated video not necessary (need nVidia DVI card) integrated sound fine if it works, even basic, but not necessary since cards are cheap. NIC needs are basic (10/100), so support of integrated NIC is nice as it'll save me a slot, but not critical as cards are cheap SATA2... I'm 99% positive I'll be wanting to do some RAID, at least a mirroring of my system/OS drive. So it'd be REALLY nice if FreeBSD supported whatever on-board RAID the MB had, since this will save me buying a 3Ware card (which are NOT cheap) I have traditionally gone with Asus motherboards but I read they aim more for bleeding-edge gamers than the rock-solid stability I expect from my FreeBSD system. I can't help but wonder how many of my occasional FreeBSD lockups are a result of that...? I hear that Tyan is more-stable, however FreeBSD's support for Tyan boards that meet my needs is questionable/fuzzy. So I'm having a hard time. Can anyone offer some advice? Even if not specific models, insight/thoughts/opinions are appreciated too. Once I get the MB picked out, everything else will fall into place. Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 17:47:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B90B16A403 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0BC13C428 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HEqtH-000Fgh-FU; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:47:31 +0100 Message-ID: <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:48:55 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsh References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:47:37 -0000 rsh wrote: > Hi > > For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or > Fireware > > I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their > Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0 > It takes power directly from USB. > > Did somebody have success with this device? > > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? > > Thanks > Why would you want 1,8" ? That is very small indeed, but very limited as well and expensive. You might as well buy a 2,5" (notebook) drive with enclosure, that would just be recognised by FreeBSD as USB mass storage device (umass) and works perfectly with me. Also most 2,5" enclosures allow for USB power so only 1 cable is needed; though often they provide an additional power supply if you use a 7200rpm drive which uses a lot of power. My advice: go for Samsung 5400rpm drives they are very power-efficient and still quite fast. Good luck :) - veronica From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 17:58:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6799E16A402 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEA613C4B9 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so231912wxc for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:58:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CzlO/UikpACpiOdm16oXuMaIWbrT6YsGhGvkpOeqt4XmZUIKvwZtz0hc7nD6dRECj0VM1H8en/WpomY3IPGiHPIcZ2nMqRFGDT/s/PjN7JQdg6VlxJ/iWZXUC0Tbf4oBdAVLAxavFIZnoG5PBVAyedQSlQBG2J7GiRGlDC2u6Kc= Received: by 10.78.149.13 with SMTP id w13mr201456hud.1170871085518; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:58:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:58:05 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: Fluffles In-Reply-To: <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 59763d92c11c3a11 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, rsh Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:58:40 -0000 On 2/7/07, Fluffles wrote: > rsh wrote: > > Hi > > > > For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or > > Fireware > > > > I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their > > Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0 > > It takes power directly from USB. > > > > Did somebody have success with this device? > > > > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Why would you want 1,8" ? That is very small indeed, but very limited as > well and expensive. You might as well buy a 2,5" (notebook) drive with > enclosure, that would just be recognised by FreeBSD as USB mass storage > device (umass) and works perfectly with me. Also most 2,5" enclosures > allow for USB power so only 1 cable is needed; though often they provide > an additional power supply if you use a 7200rpm drive which uses a lot > of power. My advice: go for Samsung 5400rpm drives they are very > power-efficient and still quite fast. 1.8"? 2.5"? I have a Sarotech Hardbox enclosure for 3.5" drives and I prefer using Seagate drives inside. Dropped and hit it countless times, on numerous occasions people would bet I lost the data but I have yet to see a single bad block. Granted, its size requires a separate pouch, you can't stuff the thing into a pocket, but it has potential for 1Tb of data ;) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 18:23:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A313616A401 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (smeltpunt.science.ru.nl [131.174.16.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E96013C4B5 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from adsl-dc-2f63f.adsl.wanadoo.nl [83.116.148.63] (helo=[10.0.0.195]) (authen=adridg) by smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (8.13.7/5.11) with ESMTP id l17IN5t2001266; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:23:07 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot Organization: KDE-NL To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:23:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702071923.11850.groot@kde.org> Cc: rsh Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:23:09 -0000 On Wednesday 07 February 2007 16:24, rsh wrote: > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? My experiences are varied (and no specific experience with the Transcend unit). I had an external SATA USB enclosure, worked fine with 6.2 on an nForce4 board (regular consumer crud) but didn't work at all with 6.2 on an nForce4 (I think) based Sun server. So there's more than just the USB enclosure to worry about, that's my point here. -- KDE Quality Team http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/ GPG: FEA2 A3FE http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 18:34:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0E616A405 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE9213C4A3 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 18:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so245788uge for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:34:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g/Kt3tKIwX3nVpT0NR8LNd+0zLr8ysSqEMhLPmpkTyrGHqjMrC1ZR8ZmasS2rBepjdPTIn7odp9RPINDaonf5TmP32gwDkgFlmY2wabHCXsdFK55R6QZn2lwlkzuPsmy6bIo3dxJztkkxCYV3imukdascGPQDqm9Uk7YRrP0Z5w= Received: by 10.82.165.1 with SMTP id n1mr1851089bue.1170870860967; Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.36.20 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:54:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:54:06 -0500 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: rsh In-Reply-To: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:34:37 -0000 On 07/02/07, rsh wrote: > Hi > > For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or > Fireware > > I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their > Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0 > It takes power directly from USB. > > Did somebody have success with this device? > > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? > > Thanks Most USB HDDs should work fine. Unless you specifically want minimal size and super-super low noise, I'd recommend to go with 2.5" drives. You can easily get an external 2.5" USB enclosure, and then separately buy a 2.5" drive of any size you want. As far as power goes, 2.5" 5400rpm drives from HGST (formerly IBM and Hitachi) -- 5k100, 5k120 and 5k160 -- should consume a maximum of 5.0 W on startup, so they can be powered from two USB ports (2 * 2.5 W = 5.0 W), something that most enclosures offer. I have personally used CoolMax HD-211-U2 [0] with Fujitsu MHV2040AT 2.5" 4200rpm drive without any problems for a rather long time, to boot OpenBSD as well as FreeBSD directly from the USB drive, as well as to transfer a few files here and there. CoolMax now has better versions of this enclosure, for example, HD-260B-U2 [1]. [0] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817146034 [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817146065 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 20:30:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8565E16A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: from capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br (vrrp.freebsdbrasil.com.br [200.210.70.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD16913C4A6 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br) Received: (qmail 97303 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2007 18:35:56 -0200 Received: from lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(201.58.76.173):. 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(lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br@201.58.76.173) by capeta.freebsdbrasil.com.br with SMTP; 7 Feb 2007 18:35:55 -0200 Message-ID: <45CA36F1.8060600@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:30:41 -0200 From: Felippe de Meirelles Motta Organization: FreeBSD Brasil LTDA User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <45C745BF.3080600@freebsdbrasil.com.br> <200702051628.02501.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200702051628.02501.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lippe@freebsdbrasil.com.br List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:30:57 -0000 > On Monday 05 February 2007 09:57, Felippe de Meirelles Motta wrote: >> Hi people, >> >> Somebody already got problems with PERC 5/i controller, stopping during >> the boot ? >> >> Reading the last message, i dont known the possible problem, look: >> >> mfi0: 587 (223981812s/0x0001/-1) - VD 00/0 progress 2% in 48s: >> Background Initialization progress on VD 00/0 is 2.03%(48s) >> mfi0:588 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Battery temperature is normal >> mfi0: 589 (223981820s/0x0000/0) - Current capacity of the battery is >> above hold >> mfid0: on mfi0 >> mfid0: 278784MB (578949632 sectors) RAID volume '0' is optimal >> >> My hardware informations are: >> >> Dell Poweredge 840 >> BIOS A01 >> Raid Controller LSI LOGIC Corporation >> PERC 5/i version 5.0.2-0003 >> 3 HDs in RAID 5 >> >> I tested with FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2, but, no success! >> >> I read about a possible bug in FreeBSD 6.1 with multiple volumes, but i >> don't find any notice that confirmed this, not even any correction/fix. > > It was fixed in 6.2, but you only have 1 volume. You might have a different > problem rather than an mfi(4) problem. You can try disabling SMP as a > workaround for now to see if it doesn't hang at boot. Thanks John B., but without success! :( I made others 4 attempts, also without success. 1) Disabling ACPI - Also stopped in boot; 2) Boot in Safe Mode - Boot completed successfully, but reboot of 15 in 15 minutes; 3) Boot with Loader Prompt and sets: set hw.ata.ata_dma=0 set hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 set hw.ata.wc=0 set hw.eisa_slots=0 set hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=1 boot -v Note: The last message is: GEOM: new disk mfid0. 4) I tried to also remake the volume; More suggestions ? > >> Thanks! :) -- Atenciosamente, Felippe de Meirelles Motta FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 7 21:39:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218D616A400 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (smeltpunt.science.ru.nl [131.174.16.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945F13C4A6 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 21:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from groot@kde.org) Received: from adsl-dc-2f63f.adsl.wanadoo.nl [83.116.148.63] (helo=[10.0.0.195]) (authen=adridg) by smeltpunt.science.ru.nl (8.13.7/5.11) with ESMTP id l17LdWfY027211; Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:39:34 +0100 (MET) From: Adriaan de Groot Organization: KDE-NL To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, "Scott I. Remick" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:39:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <45CA0331.2090500@sremick.net> In-Reply-To: <45CA0331.2090500@sremick.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702072239.38756.groot@kde.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Building new AM2 system, advice needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:39:36 -0000 On Wednesday 07 February 2007 17:49, Scott I. Remick wrote: > AMD socket AM2 (going to use a 65W Athlon64 X2 Windsor, as Brisbane > doesn't seem better) > DDR2 (800 preferred) > integrated video not necessary (need nVidia DVI card) > integrated sound fine if it works, even basic, but not necessary since > cards are cheap. > NIC needs are basic (10/100), so support of integrated NIC is nice as > it'll save me a slot, but not critical as cards are cheap I got a Asus M2NPV-VM, mini-ATX board, 4 DIMM slots, VGA D-SUB + DVI out onboard, sound HDA (needs patch from Ariff, works a treat), nve also supported in 6.2. > SATA2... I'm 99% positive I'll be wanting to do some RAID, at least a > mirroring of my system/OS drive. So it'd be REALLY nice if FreeBSD > supported whatever on-board RAID the MB had, since this will save me > buying a 3Ware card (which are NOT cheap) On-board == fake RAID. Use GEOM mirror and be done with it. The nVidia media shield crud is recognized and supported (not "RAID 5" though). -- KDE Quality Team http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/ GPG: FEA2 A3FE http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 07:41:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D537416A418 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@mpe.mpg.de) Received: from mpemail.mpe.mpg.de (mpemail.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.137.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1C613C494 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@mpe.mpg.de) Received: from robert3.mpe-garching.mpg.de ([130.183.136.84]) by mpemail.mpe.mpg.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) id 1HF3UQ-0003c0-EE for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:14:42 +0100 Resent-Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:14:38 +0100 Message-Id: <296A6BBA-F612-4AD3-8AC2-4E4B49D59978@mpe.mpg.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Klaus Robert Suetterlin Resent-From: Klaus Robert Suetterlin Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:13:08 +0100 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-Id: robert Cc: Subject: Is there a GigE vision standard frame grabber support on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:41:19 -0000 Hi all, has anyone experience with using GigE vision standard based cameras and using them under FreeBSD? I am glad for any and all pointers and especially if there was someone with first hand experience. Thanks, --Robert S. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 13:59:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAD516A4A5 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C71F13C471 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 13:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HF9oB-000CNf-HR; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: <45CB2D18.9010209@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:00:56 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scott I. Remick" References: <45CA0331.2090500@sremick.net> In-Reply-To: <45CA0331.2090500@sremick.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building new AM2 system, advice needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:59:46 -0000 Scott I. Remick wrote: > So it's been a while, but I'm ready to build a replacement system for > my desktop. It seems a lot has changed since I last built one, and the > decisions (hardware support) are foggier than last time. I'm not so > rich that I can afford to keep buying stuff and sending it back, so I > could use some advice. > > My criteria are: > > AMD socket AM2 (going to use a 65W Athlon64 X2 Windsor, as Brisbane > doesn't seem better) > DDR2 (800 preferred) > integrated video not necessary (need nVidia DVI card) know that nVidia has no AMD64 drivers and the "nv" drives AMD64 support is crappy beyond imagination; i do not know why. My 7600GT 256MB acts in screensaver OpenGL as if it was a PCI card of the stone age. So essentially this means: stay with i386 and pick the nvidia binary drivers. They at least deliver reasonable performance. Also, why do you want DDR2? It's slower than DDR due to the latencies being so much higher. So essentially you get a 5 - 10% performance hit; since DDR and DDR2 is basically the same price; why would you want DDR2? Because 2 is 'better' than 1? That's surely not the case here. Don't be misled by marketing efforts; the IT-industry has always been: obfuscate, misinform, exploit the unknowledgeable. Don't get a victim yourself. > integrated sound fine if it works, even basic, but not necessary since > cards are cheap. > NIC needs are basic (10/100), so support of integrated NIC is nice as > it'll save me a slot, but not critical as cards are cheap > > SATA2... I'm 99% positive I'll be wanting to do some RAID, at least a > mirroring of my system/OS drive. So it'd be REALLY nice if FreeBSD > supported whatever on-board RAID the MB had, since this will save me > buying a 3Ware card (which are NOT cheap) onboard RAID doesnt really exist; since the actual RAID is implemented in the drivers. The onboard part actually is an IDE controller and a BIOS mechanism that allows for bootstrapping. FreeBSD does support some onboard RAID ("fake RAID") though by reading the metadata and using it's own RAID implementation. But if i were you, i would go for software RAID. With geom_raid5 you can also do RAID5, by the way - with great performance! > I have traditionally gone with Asus motherboards but I read they aim > more for bleeding-edge gamers than the rock-solid stability I expect > from my FreeBSD system. I can't help but wonder how many of my > occasional FreeBSD lockups are a result of that...? I hear that Tyan > is more-stable, however FreeBSD's support for Tyan boards that meet my > needs is questionable/fuzzy. So I'm having a hard time. > > Can anyone offer some advice? Even if not specific models, > insight/thoughts/opinions are appreciated too. Once I get the MB > picked out, everything else will fall into place. Thanks :) Why not consider ASRock? It's a pitty that one of the best K8 chipsets is used so little. The ULi M1697 is regarded as high performance and feature rich chipset; and it's cheap and allows for passive cooling (unlike those hotheads like nForce4). The bords i like: ASRock 939SLI-eSATA2 (Socket 939) ASRock 939SLI32-eSATA2 (Socket 939 with gigabit NIC) ASRock AM2XLI-eSATA2 (Socket AM2) They all use ULi M1697 chipset. Be sure to check the HCL though for SATA and gigabit NIC drivers. I think these boards are really great value and performance. Good luck! - Veronica From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 14:03:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A964A16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA8113C474 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HF9rX-000CYN-SJ; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:02:59 +0100 Message-ID: <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:04:24 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Pantyukhin References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, rsh Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:03:05 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 2/7/07, Fluffles wrote: >> rsh wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or >> > Fireware >> > >> > I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their >> > Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0 >> > It takes power directly from USB. >> > >> > Did somebody have success with this device? >> > >> > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> >> Why would you want 1,8" ? That is very small indeed, but very limited as >> well and expensive. You might as well buy a 2,5" (notebook) drive with >> enclosure, that would just be recognised by FreeBSD as USB mass storage >> device (umass) and works perfectly with me. Also most 2,5" enclosures >> allow for USB power so only 1 cable is needed; though often they provide >> an additional power supply if you use a 7200rpm drive which uses a lot >> of power. My advice: go for Samsung 5400rpm drives they are very >> power-efficient and still quite fast. > > 1.8"? 2.5"? 1,8" are extremely small drives; like compactflash models or so 2,5" are regular notebook drives -- too very small 3,5" are, as you know, regular drives. The problem is, 3,5" drives use a lot of power (some 30W spinup); you cannot pull that much from USB cable so external enclosures for 3,5" drives will have a power adapter; this makes two cables while rsh wanted just one cable; you can only do that with 2,5" and below. So i recommend 2,5" drives. > I have a Sarotech Hardbox enclosure for 3.5" > drives and I prefer using Seagate drives inside. Seagate gets rather hot; Samsung is a lot better in that respect. - Veronica From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 14:04:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2FF16A4B3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp.univ-lyon2.fr (smtp.univ-lyon2.fr [159.84.143.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC88913C4B8 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.univ-lyon2.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5521D0B852 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:23:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-lyon2.fr Received: from smtp.univ-lyon2.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.univ-lyon2.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id geLt3mFSC-7P for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:23:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [159.84.148.59] (patpro.univ-lyon2.fr [159.84.148.59]) by smtp.univ-lyon2.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1761D0B821 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:23:11 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1A8ACCE4-4265-4BC1-BD7A-9F74D1359A1A@patpro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Patrick Proniewski Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:23:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: reading hardware properties X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:04:35 -0000 Hello I would like to read some informations from my hardware, without the need of a physical intervention. I'm mainly interested in reading info of the RAM : manufacturer, frequency, ... even reference number if available. Is there any piece of software around that can allow this ? regards Patrick Proniewski From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 14:29:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3EF16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EBC13C48E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 38so153654huc for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=aaYAcVelYFVpes6c+gRJz/yJgOn+2Zz1hS5jNcoWLaf257GNAYIGo2T63CrviRQjKE15FsdFdEPTsZzI4NvRDT/eLaNibE2d0h8w792ztN5t0u4FZoh08Z9UVPsYXnLrD1YIcqXhs07KV7j8QjRQ2FYVfe+hgI2WZgr/i7kL2GI= Received: by 10.78.193.5 with SMTP id q5mr4111101huf.1170944992370; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 06:29:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:29:51 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: Fluffles In-Reply-To: <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5e574e4e3dc5499a Cc: rsh , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:29:55 -0000 On 2/8/07, Fluffles wrote: > Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > On 2/7/07, Fluffles wrote: > >> rsh wrote: > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > For backup purposes, i need removable HDD, connected through USB or > >> > Fireware > >> > > >> > I'm really impressed by Transcend solution and would like to use their > >> > Transcend 1.8" Portable HDD 20 GB, USB 2.0 > >> > It takes power directly from USB. > >> > > >> > Did somebody have success with this device? > >> > > >> > If it is a bad idea, any suggestions for External HDD ? > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > >> Why would you want 1,8" ? That is very small indeed, but very limited as > >> well and expensive. You might as well buy a 2,5" (notebook) drive with > >> enclosure, that would just be recognised by FreeBSD as USB mass storage > >> device (umass) and works perfectly with me. Also most 2,5" enclosures > >> allow for USB power so only 1 cable is needed; though often they provide > >> an additional power supply if you use a 7200rpm drive which uses a lot > >> of power. My advice: go for Samsung 5400rpm drives they are very > >> power-efficient and still quite fast. > > > > 1.8"? 2.5"? > > 1,8" are extremely small drives; like compactflash models or so > 2,5" are regular notebook drives -- too very small > 3,5" are, as you know, regular drives. > > The problem is, 3,5" drives use a lot of power (some 30W spinup); you > cannot pull that much from USB cable so external enclosures for 3,5" > drives will have a power adapter; this makes two cables while rsh wanted > just one cable; you can only do that with 2,5" and below. So i recommend > 2,5" drives. Sure, sure, I just wanted to continue the lineup of sizes. Maybe somebody will come up with 5,25" and portable multi-bay NAS solutions :-) BTW, many 2,5" enclosures I've seen require two usb ports, the second one just to get more power. I imagine you could get 30W from 12 dedicated USB ports :-) > > I have a Sarotech Hardbox enclosure for 3.5" > > drives and I prefer using Seagate drives inside. > > Seagate gets rather hot; Samsung is a lot better in that respect. That's what I'm saying, Seagate is hot! But seriously, fanless enclosures are a problem with any drive. Hmm, Samsung 3,5" drives are rather cheap these days, look like a bargain to me. I remember they were regarded as a bit slow, but stable some years ago, wonder if that is still true... From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 14:51:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CF416A4E2; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B27913C441; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HFAbq-000Ffn-Sb; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:50:50 +0100 Message-ID: <45CB391F.6070903@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:52:15 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Pantyukhin References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, rsh Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:51:10 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > BTW, many 2,5" enclosures I've seen require two usb > ports, the second one just to get more power. Hm well with a Samsung drive you won't need an extra cable; at least not with proper enclosure like i have. Works perfectly with one cable. Very convenient to more 100GB along. :) > I imagine you could get 30W from 12 dedicated USB ports > :-) Well a typical motherboard has only 2 or 3 USB controllers (reaching a total of 6 ports). So you would need some 5 PCI USB controllers to get those 12 "dedicated ports". ;-) USB is not really meant for these power ratings... >> > drives and I prefer using Seagate drives inside. >> >> Seagate gets rather hot; Samsung is a lot better in that respect. > > I have a Sarotech Hardbox enclosure for 3.5" > > That's what I'm saying, Seagate is hot! But seriously, > fanless enclosures are a problem with any drive. With a 2,5" Samsung drive you won't have any problems with heat; these drives do 0,6W; very power-efficient i would say. > Hmm, Samsung 3,5" drives are rather cheap these days, > look like a bargain to me. I remember they were regarded > as a bit slow, but stable some years ago, wonder if that > is still true... The Samsung T166 500GB drive not only has the highest GB-per-euro/dollar ratio but is also the fastest drive in terms of Sequential Transfer Rate (STR); beating even the WD Raptor; though i have to say random I/O performance is much more important than STR. - Veronica From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 15:16:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C963D16A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDDD13C48D for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (yvwfgj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l18Edq6R095013; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:39:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l18EdqD4095012; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:39:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:39:52 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200702081439.l18EdqD4095012@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, patpro@patpro.net In-Reply-To: <1A8ACCE4-4265-4BC1-BD7A-9F74D1359A1A@patpro.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:39:58 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: reading hardware properties X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, patpro@patpro.net List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:16:05 -0000 Patrick Proniewski wrote: > I would like to read some informations from my hardware, without the > need of a physical intervention. I'm mainly interested in reading > info of the RAM : manufacturer, frequency, ... even reference number > if available. > Is there any piece of software around that can allow this ? Try ports/sysutils/dmidecode. Requires a BIOS that has a DMI-compliant interface, though. Works perfectly fine on most Compaq/HP ProLiant machines, for example, and displays the population of all RAM slots in great detail, among other things. On a HP ProLiant DL360 G4p, it prints about 800 lines of information, including the following: Handle 0x1100, DMI type 17, 23 bytes. Memory Device Array Handle: 0x1000 Error Information Handle: Not Provided Total Width: 72 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 512 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: 1 Locator: DIMM 01 Bank Locator: Not Specified Type: DDR Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 400 MHz (2.5 ns) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, USt-Id: DE204219783 Any opinions expressed in this message are personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix GmbH & Co KG in any way. FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing."         -- Mother Teresa From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 15:21:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D7E16A492 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp.univ-lyon2.fr (smtp.univ-lyon2.fr [159.84.143.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C064A13C4B9 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.univ-lyon2.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C841D14825; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:21:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-lyon2.fr Received: from smtp.univ-lyon2.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.univ-lyon2.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bwFMJqn+lWBw; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:21:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [159.84.148.59] (patpro.univ-lyon2.fr [159.84.148.59]) by smtp.univ-lyon2.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E9A1D147F2; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:21:31 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200702081439.l18EdqD4095012@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200702081439.l18EdqD4095012@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--632637299; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <931B6B4F-33E6-46BC-8D97-6FB9D855D373@patpro.net> From: Patrick Proniewski Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:21:30 +0100 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: reading hardware properties X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:21:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail-8--632637299 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 8 f=E9vr. 07, at 15:39, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Try ports/sysutils/dmidecode. great ! Handle 0x001E, DMI type 17, 27 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x001D Error Information Handle: No Error Total Width: 72 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 512 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: 1 Locator: DDRIIA1 Bank Locator: DIMM A1 Type: DDR2 Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 400 MHz (2.5 ns) Manufacturer: Not Specified Serial Number: Not Specified Asset Tag: Not Specified Part Number: Not Specified some info are missing, but it's still great ! thanks a lot, Patrick --Apple-Mail-8--632637299-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 15:44:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674C016A406 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DFD13C4A6 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so562008nzh for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:44:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BR9vgG1pb1t8CyGXJcbPILzmWwmoph374XEz5R305tSdCONY+cXzKtfEbHJyJoe2Zn7X3AYHagIVOdDJe2c4hPdYhOdX/Ny73QTSmMuCOxK+bnFqnkx1vAiBIKKzYdvlssGUVOliTnL/t5wSWUxkTQfxUIqdQoD8Sod7SJmp8dk= Received: by 10.114.133.1 with SMTP id g1mr4267440wad.1170949474139; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.36.20 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:44:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:44:33 -0500 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: Fluffles In-Reply-To: <45CB391F.6070903@fluffles.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> <45CB391F.6070903@fluffles.net> Cc: Andrew Pantyukhin , rsh , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:44:37 -0000 On 08/02/07, Fluffles wrote: > Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > BTW, many 2,5" enclosures I've seen require two usb > > ports, the second one just to get more power. > > Hm well with a Samsung drive you won't need an extra cable; at least not > with proper enclosure like i have. Works perfectly with one cable. Just because it works with one motherboard, doesn't mean it will work with another. :) Samsung drives are nothing special as far as power consumption goes, in fact, they consume more power AND they work slower than HGST drives do -- just check the specs. So in reality, you get much better performance per watt with HGST than with Samsung, as well as you can actually lower the wattage with HGST. :) [...] > >> > drives and I prefer using Seagate drives inside. > >> > >> Seagate gets rather hot; Samsung is a lot better in that respect. > > > I have a Sarotech Hardbox enclosure for 3.5" > > > > That's what I'm saying, Seagate is hot! But seriously, > > fanless enclosures are a problem with any drive. > > With a 2,5" Samsung drive you won't have any problems with heat; these > drives do 0,6W; very power-efficient i would say. Where have you got this figure from? Let's just pick the first two cheapest Samsung drives that are available at NewEgg.com [0]: http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointMSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinpointMseries_MP0402H_sp.htm http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointMSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinpointMseries_MP0603H_sp.htm both of these Samsung drives require 5.0 W for spin-up, and then they consume 2.4 W on reads and writes, and 0.85 W on low-power idle, and their maximum media transfer rate is 431Mbit/s. (I.e. even their read/write wattage barely fits into the 2.5W allowance of a single USB port, but remember that the enclosure itself consumes some of that 2.5 W, too...) Now let's take a look at the first two cheapest HGST drives on newegg.com, which actually come from a single HGST series -- these HGST drives have the same 5400 RPM and size parameters as the above Samsung drives, and their prices are only 2 USD apart from the Samsung counterparts: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5k100/5k100.htm and we can see that the 5K100 series, which is a rather old one BTW, consumes also 5.0 W on start-up, but only 2.0 W on reads and writes, with low-power idle at 0.60 W, and their maximum media transfer rate is 493Mbit/s. I.e. better in all aspects from the above Samsung drives. And the new 5k120 series has even better characteristics than 5k100. [0] http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010150380&Subcategory=380 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 15:47:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C9116A403 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kronuz@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s12.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E583113C441 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kronuz@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.130.104]) by bay0-omc1-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:47:21 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 07:47:21 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.55.130.123 by by125fd.bay125.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:47:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [189.168.23.31] X-Originating-Email: [kronuz@hotmail.com] X-Sender: kronuz@hotmail.com From: "Jeremy Kronuz" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:47:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2007 15:47:21.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B6FCDF0:01C74B98] Subject: Booting from a DELL PV MD1000 using a PERC 5/E controller card X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:47:29 -0000 Hey, does anybody know if it's possible to boot directly from an external MD1000 array thru the PERC5/e RAID controller? 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Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 16:05:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A1616A4C1 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.khalil@webmatique.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7186713C478 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.khalil@webmatique.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([66.131.40.201]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JD5003I6GLGFIK1@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:05:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:05:39 -0500 From: Claude Khalil To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Subject: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:05:49 -0000 Hello, I have seeked help from the newsgroup but since this is a real hardware problem, I hope that you can assist... We have purchased an Intel server (board + chassis) SR1500ALSAS (the board is S5000PAL) http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s5000pal/sb/CS-022639.htm The Intel RAID controller was configured from the vendor for 2 SATA HD in RAID1. But FreeBSD 6.2 do not see the logical drive but both HD... Intel support RedHat and Suse... I am NOT looking for a complete solution with OS/RAID communication but a basic RAID mirror on both disks. I can manage lack of disk status. Hoping for a driver support in 6.3 seems like a nightmare. Is there a way? What do you suggest? It seems I have a useless server or that I will have to settle for a software mirror... Thank you for your help! -- Claude From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 16:27:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E75416A402 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2F013C467 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so478075uge for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:27:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=p/VRFyqYXuj5AmhmCNGf5IV4ly5qbNZWV5lp2UYDgybOjA4eLjvfx2bRMrYfj4pZngP9jvkxeegGJ2C96AGX2WMzXTSN0Y9IBfh7oqTu7pAZpDfaEqP9o9rMi/J//msYkcplfqP1E69j7BvFHqDNxhcptkRqYPlBEWw0PCuAxno= Received: by 10.78.205.7 with SMTP id c7mr4220097hug.1170952057238; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:27:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:27:37 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" To: Fluffles In-Reply-To: <45CB391F.6070903@fluffles.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> <45CB391F.6070903@fluffles.net> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, rsh Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:27:42 -0000 On 2/8/07, Fluffles wrote: > Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > Hmm, Samsung 3,5" drives are rather cheap these days, > > look like a bargain to me. I remember they were regarded > > as a bit slow, but stable some years ago, wonder if that > > is still true... > > The Samsung T166 500GB drive not only has the highest GB-per-euro/dollar > ratio but is also the fastest drive in terms of Sequential Transfer Rate > (STR); beating even the WD Raptor; though i have to say random I/O > performance is much more important than STR. What I'm worried the most about is reliability. I would settle for 10Mb/sec performance if I had a guarantee it would work 24x7x365 for 10 years straight... From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 17:21:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEB216A488 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9B613C48E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HFCxN-000OyV-3e for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:21:13 +0100 Message-ID: <45CB5C5E.2040603@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:22:38 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <1170861895.87827.8.camel@localhost> <45CA1107.1020609@fluffles.net> <45CB2DE8.1090609@fluffles.net> <45CB391F.6070903@fluffles.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:21:22 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On 2/8/07, Fluffles wrote: >> Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >> > Hmm, Samsung 3,5" drives are rather cheap these days, >> > look like a bargain to me. I remember they were regarded >> > as a bit slow, but stable some years ago, wonder if that >> > is still true... >> >> The Samsung T166 500GB drive not only has the highest GB-per-euro/dollar >> ratio but is also the fastest drive in terms of Sequential Transfer Rate >> (STR); beating even the WD Raptor; though i have to say random I/O >> performance is much more important than STR. > > What I'm worried the most about is reliability. I would > settle for 10Mb/sec performance if I had a guarantee it > would work 24x7x365 for 10 years straight... No drive is reliable enough; dire truth. That's why RAID is so popular these days. Build yourself a nice NAS server and use geom_raid5 on it to provide for reliability. :) - V From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 20:00:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A7416A401 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D22D13C4B2 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HFFRI-0008hL-Py; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:00:16 +0100 Message-ID: <45CB81A6.6090902@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:01:42 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claude Khalil References: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> In-Reply-To: <45CB3C43.8060606@webmatique.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:00:23 -0000 Claude Khalil wrote: > Hello, > > I have seeked help from the newsgroup but since this is a real > hardware problem, I hope that you can assist... > > We have purchased an Intel server (board + chassis) > SR1500ALSAS (the board is S5000PAL) > http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s5000pal/sb/CS-022639.htm > > > The Intel RAID controller was configured from the vendor for 2 SATA HD > in RAID1. But FreeBSD 6.2 do not see the logical drive but both HD... Then it's fake RAID; true hardware RAID controllers will never reveil the disks 'behind' the controller. Thus if FreeBSD sees the individual disks you actually are not using true hardware RAID. > Intel support RedHat and Suse... I am NOT looking for a complete > solution with OS/RAID communication but a basic RAID mirror on both > disks. I can manage lack of disk status. Then why not use gmirror? Should not matter much regarding performance. - Veronica From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 21:11:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B054216A403 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from auriate.fluffles.net (cust.95.160.adsl.cistron.nl [195.64.95.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8AD13C474 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etc@fluffles.net) Received: from destiny ([10.0.0.21]) by auriate.fluffles.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HFGYE-000DLk-4G for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:11:30 +0100 Message-ID: <45CB9257.8050006@fluffles.net> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:12:55 +0100 From: Fluffles User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:11:34 -0000 Simon wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:01:42 +0100, Fluffles wrote: > > >> Claude Khalil wrote: >> > > >> Then it's fake RAID; true hardware RAID controllers will never reveil >> the disks 'behind' the controller. Thus if FreeBSD sees the individual >> disks you actually are not using true hardware RAID. >> > > Disks set as JBOD will be seen as individual disks. I'm not saying > his RAID card is full hardware RAID. > > -Simon > Wouldn't that be individual da's? On my Areca controller (which is a true hardware RAID controller), i can create pass through disk or JBOD; if i create 8 of those, i do not get ad4 or ad6, but i get da0, da1 ... da7. Thus; it's still wrapped to the controller. I also cannot directly access the disk for SMART etc.; those are the characteristics of true hardware RAID. Unless anyone can prove otherwise, ofcourse. - v From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 21:19:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FE616A400 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9591013C471 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 49132 invoked by uid 110); 8 Feb 2007 20:52:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 20:52:38 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Claude Khalil" , "Fluffles" Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:52:42 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: <45CB81A6.6090902@fluffles.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070208211919.9591013C471@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Intel S5000PAL with RAID problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:19:20 -0000 On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:01:42 +0100, Fluffles wrote: >Claude Khalil wrote: >Then it's fake RAID; true hardware RAID controllers will never reveil >the disks 'behind' the controller. Thus if FreeBSD sees the individual >disks you actually are not using true hardware RAID. Disks set as JBOD will be seen as individual disks. I'm not saying his RAID card is full hardware RAID. -Simon From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 05:02:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB32316A406 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 05:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99EFB13C46B for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 05:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 31800 invoked by uid 110); 9 Feb 2007 05:02:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO desktop1) (simon%optinet.com@69.112.29.182) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 9 Feb 2007 05:02:51 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:02:57 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2717) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;2) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070209050252.99EFB13C46B@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: External HDD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:02:52 -0000 Only a solid-state storage could provide such reliability, RAID is a must if you want fault tolerance, otherwise. -Simon On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 19:27:37 +0300, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >On 2/8/07, Fluffles wrote: >> Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: >> > Hmm, Samsung 3,5" drives are rather cheap these days, >> > look like a bargain to me. I remember they were regarded >> > as a bit slow, but stable some years ago, wonder if that >> > is still true... >> >> The Samsung T166 500GB drive not only has the highest GB-per-euro/dollar >> ratio but is also the fastest drive in terms of Sequential Transfer Rate >> (STR); beating even the WD Raptor; though i have to say random I/O >> performance is much more important than STR. >What I'm worried the most about is reliability. I would >settle for 10Mb/sec performance if I had a guarantee it >would work 24x7x365 for 10 years straight... >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 10:36:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337C816A400 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweizer.martin@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFFD13C461 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweizer.martin@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so911559wra for ; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:36:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=G715OIbciMLC5tz4cnC1G8b3963xQ3cKaLZma2Fujr+2jo5YBra/grV7YmvS85OxwS7kHb5fxWoQ1o5TNHVz86a8FuzKKDkcETKuMDCReS+WiJOZNeQcFGZPN/Me/mxb1D9YxpeZoyWCYXVwRY73EL/7F6TzU1vgzoopq8Bh5W8= Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr4673449waf.1171017359713; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.182.5 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 02:35:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <380ccfd60702090235x12b8ac1cpc15d3652b8281b6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:35:59 +0100 From: "Martin Schweizer" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Intel server: Hardware support for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:36:01 -0000 Hello I'looking for a new Intel server with a Intel Server board S5000P in it. Does anybody know it is supported by 6.2. I did not find a hint in the hardware notes. Any hints are welcome. Regards, -- Martin Schweizer schweizer.martin@gmail.com Tel.: +41 32 512 48 54 (VoIP) Fax: +1 619 3300587 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 11:29:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4259516A403 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bachi@te-clan.ch) Received: from te-clan.ch (ns1.te-clan.ch [217.118.194.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C43113C481 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bachi@te-clan.ch) Received: (qmail 18262 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2007 11:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO te-clan.ch) (127.0.0.1) by te-clan.ch with SMTP; 9 Feb 2007 11:02:11 -0000 Received: from 193.134.254.115 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bachi@te-clan.ch) by webmail.te-clan.ch with HTTP; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:02:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <7732.193.134.254.115.1171018931.squirrel@webmail.te-clan.ch> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 12:02:11 +0100 (CET) From: To: In-Reply-To: <380ccfd60702090235x12b8ac1cpc15d3652b8281b6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <380ccfd60702090235x12b8ac1cpc15d3652b8281b6b@mail.gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel server: Hardware support for FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:29:09 -0000 Hi Martin, Look at this page: http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html HP ProLiant DL360 G5 / Intel E5000P Is this your answer? Regards, Andreas > Hello > > I'looking for a new Intel server with a Intel Server board S5000P in it. > Does anybody know it is supported by 6.2. I did not find a hint in the > hardware notes. > Any hints are welcome. > > Regards, > -- > Martin Schweizer > schweizer.martin@gmail.com > Tel.: +41 32 512 48 54 (VoIP) > Fax: +1 619 3300587 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 18:57:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7107A16A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2634E13C4A7 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l19IvnaH098379; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:57:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:12:42 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702091312.42740.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.1]); Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:57:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2544/Fri Feb 9 03:44:48 2007 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Jeremy Kronuz Subject: Re: Booting from a DELL PV MD1000 using a PERC 5/E controller card X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:57:52 -0000 On Thursday 08 February 2007 10:47, Jeremy Kronuz wrote: > > Hey, does anybody know if it's possible to boot directly from an external > MD1000 array thru the PERC5/e RAID controller? If the DELL BIOS supports it, it should work. -- John Baldwin