From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 10:29:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0208016A403 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE16813C45A for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CF4470CA; Mon, 14 May 2007 06:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:29:12 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070514112716.C24765@fledge.watson.org> References: <20070508132149.A24765@fledge.watson.org> <20070511124830.N24765@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: UNIX domain sockets MFC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:29:13 -0000 On Sat, 12 May 2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> The fix for this has now been merged as 1.155.2.22. As there have been no >> new reports of UNIX domain socket problems in the last couple of days, it >> sounds like the MFC of the last batch of fixes and cleanups has not lead to >> problems. > > I've just upgraded my kernel to the latest, to include the MFC'd code above > ... Yes -- I was very specific in my e-mail regarding the MFC's that they were not believed to address the problem you are reporting. I think we have a leak in the way some edge case is handled with regard to UNIX domain socket shutdown. What would be really nice to know is if that persists in 7-CURRENT, in which we've redone the way the socket life cycle works. However, I don't know if you are able to tolerate booting a 7-CURRENT kernel in your environment...? Did we determine whether backing out to before the unpcb socket reference count change made any difference for you? Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge > > Just before rebooted, as I've done the past couple of times, I shutdown > everything on the server, so that there were minimal processes running ... > based on the last one, and this one, it looks like the number of "Active > open sockets" is ~4000 ... last time, I was up to 11k sockets open, and it > drop'd to ~7000 once all jails were shut down, but, as reported to > Robert/John, there was a java process in a soclose state, so I wasn't 100% > certain there ... > > This time through, I started at about 8800 sockets open, and shut down all > processes, including all java processes ... using ps auxlw, I checked for any > processes in a soclose state, and there were none ... I waited a full 10 > minutes to let things 'settle', and after 7 of those, it had drop'd down to: > > mars# uptime ; sysctl kern.ipc | grep sock > 2:18PM up 1 day, 13:26, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.47, 2.57 > kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 262144 > kern.ipc.sockbuf_waste_factor: 8 > kern.ipc.numopensockets: 4835 > kern.ipc.maxsockets: 12328 > > And stuck there for the remaining 3 minutes before I rebooted ... which is what > leads me to believe that there are about 4000 active sockets on this server > when everything is running ... > > > - ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFGRfpC4QvfyHIvDvMRAuzoAKDbb5Fndwtw8paTsmLdXIP+FrOBHQCeIVKf > Uhlv8ZRAjVar/fRHD3E6waM= > =yglM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 12:45:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1984116A403; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C153813C459; Mon, 14 May 2007 12:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9709285C8E5; Mon, 14 May 2007 09:45:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32672-08; Mon, 14 May 2007 09:45:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1642385C8CC; Mon, 14 May 2007 09:45:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828BD615F0; Mon, 14 May 2007 09:45:41 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:45:40 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Robert Watson Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: UNIX domain sockets MFC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:45:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, May 14, 2007 11:29:12 +0100 Robert Watson wrote: > > On Sat, 12 May 2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >>> The fix for this has now been merged as 1.155.2.22. As there have been no >>> new reports of UNIX domain socket problems in the last couple of days, it >>> sounds like the MFC of the last batch of fixes and cleanups has not lead to >>> problems. >> >> I've just upgraded my kernel to the latest, to include the MFC'd code above >> ... > > Yes -- I was very specific in my e-mail regarding the MFC's that they were > not believed to address the problem you are reporting. I think we have a > leak in the way some edge case is handled with regard to UNIX domain socket > shutdown. What would be really nice to know is if that persists in 7-CURRENT, > in which we've redone the way the socket life cycle works. However, I don't > know if you are able to tolerate booting a 7-CURRENT kernel in your > environment...? On that server, that could be very difficult ... if this was happening on any of my HP servers, I would in a minute ... > Did we determine whether backing out to before the unpcb socket reference > count change made any difference for you? The problem appeared to persist after backing it out ... I'm curious about something ... way back, when I was using unionfs, I had a major problem with vnode leakage ... as I mentioned before, this server is the only one I have that uses geom/gmirror on its drives, the rest all use hardware RAID ... is there *any* possibility that I'm seeing some sort of interaction issue? It really bothers me that the only server that I'm seeing this one is the one that I'm using software RAID on ... Would it be useful to add some DEBUG statements to the socket code, to trace open/close/flush/etc? Maybe to see where flush's are being started, but never completed? That sort of thing? - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGSFn14QvfyHIvDvMRAow2AKC67Y0QuiiF+ZJA5Tpbd3WUvcmdTwCaAgZS OY4em31JQzIIbs1CUcmpHNo= =1Mqr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 14:03:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B948B16A402 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4163613C480 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (zohwns@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4EE3DG6058692; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:03:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l4EE3Dq0058691; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:03:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:03:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200705141403.l4EE3Dq0058691@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@hub.org In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:03:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: UNIX domain sockets MFC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@hub.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:03:20 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I'm curious about something ... way back, when I was using unionfs, I had a > major problem with vnode leakage ... as I mentioned before, this server is the > only one I have that uses geom/gmirror on its drives, the rest all use hardware > RAID ... is there *any* possibility that I'm seeing some sort of interaction > issue? It really bothers me that the only server that I'm seeing this one is > the one that I'm using software RAID on ... FWIW, I have two servers running RELENG_6 (2 months old) using gmirror and with a few jails (not many, though ... they're used for Apache web servers and PostgreSQL). I'm not seeing any socket leakage. $ sysctl kern.ipc | grep sockets kern.ipc.numopensockets: 118 kern.ipc.maxsockets: 12328 $ uptime 3:55PM up 82 days, 20:39, 3 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.02 $ gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad0 ad1 If you have more hints how to reproduce the problem, I might give it a try if it's not too much trouble. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "File names are infinite in length, where infinity is set to 255 characters." -- Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 16:19:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3369A16A402 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E821F13C487 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C37985C938; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:19:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07123-07; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:19:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B7685C91A; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:19:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C606130C; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:19:01 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:19:01 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3DC18201AC301D0A2D770629@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <200705141403.l4EE3Dq0058691@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200705141403.l4EE3Dq0058691@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: UNIX domain sockets MFC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:19:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, May 14, 2007 16:03:13 +0200 Oliver Fromme wrote: > FWIW, I have two servers running RELENG_6 (2 months old) > using gmirror and with a few jails (not many, though ... > they're used for Apache web servers and PostgreSQL). > I'm not seeing any socket leakage. > > $ sysctl kern.ipc | grep sockets > kern.ipc.numopensockets: 118 > kern.ipc.maxsockets: 12328 > $ uptime > 3:55PM up 82 days, 20:39, 3 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.02 > $ gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad0 > ad1 > > If you have more hints how to reproduce the problem, I > might give it a try if it's not too much trouble. That's the fun part ... I can't seem to re-create it anywhere except that one server :( And it doesn't seem to matter how many jail(s) I have on it ... I just dump'd >25 jails off of it and onto another server, and its still rising ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGSIv14QvfyHIvDvMRAvbLAKDI62gdfiP8Q++eEtsQkL7Qi19KxQCgj3Qw AmUDtwd92A6n2mLs3REVTkI= =Av2b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 17:07:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E0C16A402 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3645213C45D for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so1696116wra for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=h94sH9on8QYou7iixVqi9rYZ0kRdiyr9hkWzVrmO7bpPxjXDImQtg2TCR5Hq/frrBoel9AN09fjU9uN1Sm4HWsyQmGhToL6ncHUXMaBDVOTr0UlCovB+0zMI3SXkFGQlfvAU+nJWeEAggDbF0cSnkmjr1Yc875/QGTWwgKT2b34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kOpf+IzvTncbibDXkG55oR+4I/ipblFNYtcq4VoW/FNyWHpTOwQ/GI/ZwrL2Obf47GUwPGwqyxeHFvOPC7xxuQ8qKbUG3qrpPSlewB8loJgfKw+HJY3bwt+doGkXFvKL3R03fG+ZpGttxLuBBSWIIpkKx5T58Y3xLteZu4SV3Bs= Received: by 10.78.48.16 with SMTP id v16mr2409403huv.1179162444894; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.173.19 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7ad7ddd90705141007k77d7c335u3de54363a0eb8eaa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:07:24 +0200 From: "Ulrich Spoerlein" To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Known memory leak in 6-STABLE from April 1st? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:07:26 -0000 Hi all, I observed something funny with our new cyrus/postfix/amavis installations running on 6.2-STABLE checked out on April 1st (no, I'm not joking). They are running symon to grab performance data and I saw the memory total becoming less and less. Now I know that adding up free+active+inactive != total ram BUT *all* other FreeBSD machines we are running show a more or less constant sum. I uploaded two pictures showing the trend here (They are i386 machines with 4GB RAM, FreeBSD reports 3.3GB as usable): http://coyote.dnsalias.net/ms1-day.png http://coyote.dnsalias.net/ms1-week.png Now after doing some heavy IMAP testing (cyrus reconstruct of big maildirs) the system froze to a complete halt. Stupid me already rebooted the machine, tomorrow I'll try to break into DDB when it happens again. I also started recording top(1) memory output and sysctl vm.zone output. The main questions is: Were there any known memory leaks at the start of April? Any patches I should blindly try before spending several days on debugging this? Thanks! Uli From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 17:29:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61B016A405 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599E13C458 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.182]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B95B85C938; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:29:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26326-02; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:29:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5BC85C91A; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:29:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD336130C; Mon, 14 May 2007 14:29:39 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:29:38 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Ulrich Spoerlein , stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7ad7ddd90705141007k77d7c335u3de54363a0eb8eaa@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ad7ddd90705141007k77d7c335u3de54363a0eb8eaa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Known memory leak in 6-STABLE from April 1st? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:29:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, May 14, 2007 19:07:24 +0200 Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: > Hi all, > > I observed something funny with our new cyrus/postfix/amavis > installations running on 6.2-STABLE checked out on April 1st (no, I'm > not joking). > > They are running symon to grab performance data and I saw the memory > total becoming less and less. Now I know that adding up > free+active+inactive != total ram BUT *all* other FreeBSD machines we > are running show a more or less constant sum. > > I uploaded two pictures showing the trend here (They are i386 machines > with 4GB RAM, FreeBSD reports 3.3GB as usable): > > http://coyote.dnsalias.net/ms1-day.png > http://coyote.dnsalias.net/ms1-week.png > > Now after doing some heavy IMAP testing (cyrus reconstruct of big > maildirs) the system froze to a complete halt. Stupid me already > rebooted the machine, tomorrow I'll try to break into DDB when it > happens again. I also started recording top(1) memory output and > sysctl vm.zone output. > > The main questions is: Were there any known memory leaks at the start > of April? Any patches I should blindly try before spending several > days on debugging this? Hrmmm ... long shot here, but what does: sysctl kern.ipc.numopensockets show over that period of time ... just wondering if we are somehow related on problems here, just different symptoms ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGSJyC4QvfyHIvDvMRAmDJAJwMe9ihH/5ITea58y1Qivilfju2KACgidMf Aq68KICMse94bckc2UL/7Sw= =TUSW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 14 18:03:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E03E16A406 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C7513C44B for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.184]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B64F85C8E8 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:03:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.184]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 46458-07 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:03:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBCE85C8E5 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:03:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686296170C for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:03:37 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:03:36 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56C58BA5691DD189D68AE399@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Does a pipe take a socket ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:03:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For those that remmeber the other day, I had that swzone issue, where I ran out of swap space? I just about hit it again today, swap was up to 99% used ... I was able to get a ps listing in, and there were a whack of find processes running ... Now, I think I know which VPS they were running in, so that isn't a problem ... and I suspect that the find was just part of a longer pipe ... I'm just curious if those pipes would happen to use up any of those sockets that are 'evaporating', or is this totally unrelated to sockets? Thanks ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGSKR54QvfyHIvDvMRAg/iAKCXXw2eBMr6reJlKNqcG2IvlSvXvgCgi0R+ 3cPjCNRy9r+N1MSYETwKPv4= =ha/b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 02:25:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3173D16A403 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 02:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@kalnet.com.au) Received: from ns1.trixsta.com (trixsta.com [203.57.136.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD83C13C447 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 02:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@kalnet.com.au) Received: from 218-214-216-210.people.net.au ([218.214.216.210] helo=backoffice) by ns1.trixsta.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HnmGw-000MVU-3M for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 09:56:18 +0800 From: "Steve Davis" To: Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:55:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AceR/fzQ3Nwn9rFGTI+Qh+GYBAbhWgEld75g X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns1.trixsta.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kalnet.com.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20070515022507.DD83C13C447@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 May 2007 03:34:35 +0000 Subject: Help on finding the correct card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 02:25:08 -0000 Hi Guys I would like to use freebsd 6.1 and I need a SATA Raid card to support raid 1. Can some one tell me what card I can still get that Freebsd 6.1 supports. Thank you Ps please respond to email only From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 04:08:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADCD16A400 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy@segpub.com.au) Received: from yoda.segpub.com.au (yoda.segpub.com.au [65.61.166.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3C2D13C45E for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 04:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy@segpub.com.au) Received: (qmail 82647 invoked by uid 89); 15 May 2007 03:41:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (150.101.123.18) by 0 with SMTP; 15 May 2007 03:41:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070515022507.DD83C13C447@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <20070515022507.DD83C13C447@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <40E18070-334B-4B52-9002-777B4C8EF6FE@segpub.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeremy Bogan Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:41:33 +1000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Help on finding the correct card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 04:08:17 -0000 3Ware make great RAID cards that are FreeBSD compatible. On 15/05/2007, at 11:55 AM, Steve Davis wrote: > Hi Guys I would like to use freebsd 6.1 and I need a SATA Raid card to > support raid 1. > Can some one tell me what card I can still get that Freebsd 6.1 > supports. > > Thank you > > Ps please respond to email only -- jeremy bogan [ jeremy@segpub.com.au ] segment publishing - design.develop.host From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 08:35:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC8616A402 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2746F13C44B for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c29so1202090ika for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 01:35:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Al5KrbxvMdWNGgJnqCsgDUUWV9l89juWXVrraeeKXIeC/7FfkwWLpJEaksK1dWziS9EaPO45SB2SHVOAdXv5/iX/zbhBuMDb5xyVeSHrRze+WdtGsNP/gh5GTrIcRyAofsM4q2dikIlx5ZkfnLXjfWBN56SdmurhKldud72eoCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SdebvO8WPyq7YN+eiFEs5U2v2TUsVjjfMjUEDaY38elOw5BDhU+u0VJj6GcY4JdSBrFh6syTAB/idH2dH/ab+qeI06EkiHTWTxCh/aWj63gitjIdVdx/+j6uBpdLlhJT12WyGAGTbbErOzGpVMkGUDX6q2nKG+6rHbNwne+VWWU= Received: by 10.78.160.4 with SMTP id i4mr2541454hue.1179218145488; Tue, 15 May 2007 01:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.173.19 with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2007 01:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7ad7ddd90705150135i7d5c5d7ey1ed7001cf069ccb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:35:45 +0200 From: "Ulrich Spoerlein" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7ad7ddd90705141007k77d7c335u3de54363a0eb8eaa@mail.gmail.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Known memory leak in 6-STABLE from April 1st? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:35:47 -0000 On 5/14/07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Now after doing some heavy IMAP testing (cyrus reconstruct of big > > maildirs) the system froze to a complete halt. Stupid me already > > rebooted the machine, tomorrow I'll try to break into DDB when it > > happens again. I also started recording top(1) memory output and > > sysctl vm.zone output. > > > > The main questions is: Were there any known memory leaks at the start > > of April? Any patches I should blindly try before spending several > > days on debugging this? > > Hrmmm ... long shot here, but what does: > > sysctl kern.ipc.numopensockets > > show over that period of time ... just wondering if we are somehow related on > problems here, just different symptoms ... Sorry no, nothing suspicous there. It bounces up and down, after killing all amavis, cyrus and postfix processes it came down to about 80. Right now it's at 280 again, and the memory is so small, that I can no longer grep(1) a 600MB file or do other useful stuff. This is the last vm.zone output, anything suspicous? What commands should I run (in DDB?) to see where the memory is going? Tue May 15 10:33:38 CEST 2007 vm.zone: ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS FFS2 dinode: 256, 0, 83286, 10179, 1273390 FFS1 dinode: 128, 0, 0, 0, 0 FFS inode: 132, 0, 83286, 10761, 1273390 Mountpoints: 664, 0, 7, 11, 8 SWAPMETA: 276, 121576, 11, 17, 22 pfosfp: 28, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfospfen: 108, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfiaddrpl: 92, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfstatescrub: 28, 0, 0, 0, 0 pffrcent: 12, 50141, 0, 0, 0 pffrcache: 48, 10062, 0, 0, 0 pffrag: 48, 0, 0, 0, 0 pffrent: 16, 5075, 0, 0, 0 pfrkentry2: 156, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfrkentry: 156, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfrktable: 1240, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfpooladdrpl: 68, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfaltqpl: 128, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfstatepl: 260, 10005, 0, 0, 0 pfrulepl: 604, 0, 0, 0, 0 pfsrctrpl: 100, 0, 0, 0, 0 rtentry: 132, 0, 37, 108, 3848 ripcb: 180, 25608, 0, 110, 33 sackhole: 20, 0, 0, 676, 3672 tcpreass: 20, 1690, 0, 676, 1365 hostcache: 76, 15400, 5, 245, 317 syncache: 100, 15366, 0, 195, 27209 tcptw: 48, 5148, 0, 624, 34253 tcpcb: 464, 25600, 29, 203, 212261 inpcb: 180, 25608, 29, 389, 212261 udpcb: 180, 25608, 19, 179, 493092 ipq: 32, 904, 0, 0, 0 unpcb: 144, 25623, 213, 3405, 300681 socket: 356, 25608, 263, 5567, 1006076 KNOTE: 68, 0, 0, 616, 724767 PIPE: 408, 0, 10, 818, 1544936 DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 861, 247, 4143 NFSNODE: 460, 0, 1, 23, 7 NFSMOUNT: 480, 0, 1, 15, 2 L VFS Cache: 291, 0, 402, 326, 6124 S VFS Cache: 68, 0, 87410, 16638, 1831436 NAMEI: 1024, 0, 0, 660, 105375628 VNODEPOLL: 76, 0, 0, 250, 8 VNODE: 272, 0, 83341, 12405, 1273709 ata_composit: 196, 0, 0, 0, 0 ata_request: 204, 0, 0, 76, 34 g_bio: 132, 0, 0, 696, 16904466 ACL UMA zone: 388, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_jumbo_1: 16384, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_jumbo_9: 9216, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_jumbo_p: 4096, 0, 0, 0, 0 mbuf_cluster: 2048, 25600, 929, 325, 1276052 mbuf: 256, 0, 931, 554, 141685396 mbuf_packet: 256, 0, 806, 679, 104799211 VMSPACE: 296, 0, 127, 328, 1617479 UPCALL: 44, 0, 5, 229, 10 KSEGRP: 88, 0, 386, 174, 556 THREAD: 376, 0, 394, 286, 292710 PROC: 536, 0, 170, 215, 1617545 Files: 72, 0, 580, 4296, 40984983 4096: 4096, 0, 229, 542, 3118296 2048: 2048, 0, 229, 547, 4814216 1024: 1024, 0, 347, 389, 9329214 512: 512, 0, 186, 398, 1319246 256: 256, 0, 919, 3941, 5484210 128: 128, 0, 2516, 6034, 28789911 64: 64, 0, 5339, 7110, 21344537 32: 32, 0, 2687, 7257, 10126384 16: 16, 0, 2861, 996, 9327126 mt_zone: 1024, 0, 189, 3, 189 DP fakepg: 72, 0, 0, 0, 0 PV ENTRY: 24, 2067410, 126063, 334892, 1426534413 MAP ENTRY: 68, 0, 8613, 7795, 104088221 KMAP ENTRY: 68, 57344, 1001, 1127, 208001 MAP: 192, 0, 7, 13, 7 VM OBJECT: 132, 0, 82483, 14058, 43364599 128 Bucket: 524, 0, 2145, 865, 8052 64 Bucket: 268, 0, 88, 80, 274 32 Bucket: 140, 0, 69, 99, 180 16 Bucket: 76, 0, 42, 58, 118 UMA Hash: 128, 0, 3, 27, 6 UMA RCntSlab: 104, 0, 627, 2, 7918 UMA Slabs: 64, 0, 1933, 427, 31248 UMA Zones: 480, 0, 83, 5, 83 UMA Kegs: 140, 0, 83, 13, 83 Uli From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 17:09:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B46816A406 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942E013C4B9 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (varonk@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4FH9NsX030478; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:09:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l4FH9MBZ030477; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:09:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:09:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200705151709.l4FH9MBZ030477@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@hub.org In-Reply-To: <3DC18201AC301D0A2D770629@ganymede.hub.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 15 May 2007 19:09:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: UNIX domain sockets MFC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@hub.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:09:31 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > That's the fun part ... I can't seem to re-create it anywhere except that one > server :( And it doesn't seem to matter how many jail(s) I have on it ... I > just dump'd >25 jails off of it and onto another server, and its still rising > ... Then maybe it's not related to the jails at all? Dunno if this is easily possible, but you could try to boot the machine without starting any of the jails, and then check if there's already an unusual socket usage. If there isn't, then start the jails one after another (not all at once) and keep checking. Maybe it's just one specific jails (or a few of them) which trigger the problem. With that procedure it should be possible to find it (or them). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "If you aim the gun at your foot and pull the trigger, it's UNIX's job to ensure reliable delivery of the bullet to where you aimed the gun (in this case, Mr. Foot)." -- Terry Lambert, FreeBSD-hackers mailing list. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 17:14:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2811E16A404; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24DB13C465; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (wnetwv@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4FHEEVu030774; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l4FHEEhH030766; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200705151714.l4FHEEhH030766@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <56C58BA5691DD189D68AE399@ganymede.hub.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:19 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Does a pipe take a socket ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, scrappy@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:14:21 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > For those that remmeber the other day, I had that swzone issue, where I ran out > of swap space? I just about hit it again today, swap was up to 99% used ... I > was able to get a ps listing in, and there were a whack of find processes > running ... > > Now, I think I know which VPS they were running in, so that isn't a problem ... > and I suspect that the find was just part of a longer pipe ... I'm just curious > if those pipes would happen to use up any of those sockets that are > 'evaporating', or is this totally unrelated to sockets? In FreeBSD, pipe() is implemented with the socketpair(2) system call. Every pipe uses two sockets (one for each endpoint). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "FreeBSD is Yoda, Linux is Luke Skywalker" -- Daniel C. Sobral From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 17:55:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDB716A419 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Received: from mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D90A713C4BF for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Received: (qmail 23549 messnum 312268 invoked from network[82.141.233.46/unknown]); 15 May 2007 14:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alatar.edhellond.fbi.ie) (82.141.233.46) by mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 23549) with SMTP; 15 May 2007 14:51:53 -0000 Received: from mablung.edhellond.fbi.ie (mablung.edhellond.fbi.ie [192.168.0.14]) by alatar.edhellond.fbi.ie (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4FEpfBP003214 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:51:52 GMT (envelope-from feargal@fbi.ie) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:51:41 +0100 From: Feargal Reilly To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070515155141.63665be4@mablung.edhellond.fbi.ie> In-Reply-To: <20070515022507.DD83C13C447@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <20070515022507.DD83C13C447@mx1.freebsd.org> Organization: FBI X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Help on finding the correct card X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:55:44 -0000 On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:55:10 +0800 "Steve Davis" wrote: > Hi Guys I would like to use freebsd 6.1 and I need a SATA Raid > card to support raid 1. > Can some one tell me what card I can still get that Freebsd > 6.1 supports. LSI/AMI MegaRAID works pretty well for me, it's supported by the amr(4) driver. -fr. -- Feargal Reilly, Chief Techie, FBI. PGP Key: 0xBD252C01 (expires: 2006-11-30) Web: http://www.fbi.ie/ | Tel: +353.14988588 | Fax: +353.14988489 Communications House, 11 Sallymount Avenue, Ranelagh, Dublin 6. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 18:27:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B36216A402; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3707013C44C; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.13.8/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l4FIR90N007653; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.13.8/8.13.4/Submit) id l4FIR9Yk007652; Tue, 15 May 2007 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200705151827.l4FIR9Yk007652@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, scrappy@freebsd.org References: <200705151714.l4FHEEhH030766@lurza.secnetix.de> Cc: Subject: Re: Does a pipe take a socket ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:27:10 -0000 :Marc G. Fournier wrote: : > For those that remmeber the other day, I had that swzone issue, where I ran out : > of swap space? I just about hit it again today, swap was up to 99% used ... I : > was able to get a ps listing in, and there were a whack of find processes : > running ... : > : > Now, I think I know which VPS they were running in, so that isn't a problem ... : > and I suspect that the find was just part of a longer pipe ... I'm just curious : > if those pipes would happen to use up any of those sockets that are : > 'evaporating', or is this totally unrelated to sockets? : :In FreeBSD, pipe() is implemented with the socketpair(2) :system call. Every pipe uses two sockets (one for each :endpoint). : :Best regards : Oliver : :-- :Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Nuh uh. pipe() is a direct implementation... no sockets anywhere. Using socketpair() will eat sockets up, but using pipe() will not. -Matt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 21:28:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D9D16A405 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA1713C469 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.191]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630C185CAFF for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:28:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76244-07 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:28:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCF585CAFE for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:28:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2845161892 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 18:28:20 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:28:19 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200705151709.l4FH9MBZ030477@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200705151709.l4FH9MBZ030477@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: UNIX domain sockets MFC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:28:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, May 15, 2007 19:09:22 +0200 Oliver Fromme wrote: > If there isn't, then start the jails one after another > (not all at once) and keep checking. Maybe it's just > one specific jails (or a few of them) which trigger the > problem. With that procedure it should be possible to > find it (or them). 'k, there is definitely a leak in here somewhere, since if I shut down all processes on the machine, the garbage collector should clean up the sockets, which isn't happening ... ... that said, after that last round with the >1200 find processes running, I shutdown the VPS that they were running in, and my socket usage has stayed around 2800, so something in that VPS looks to be 'the cause' ... ... my next step is going to be to restart that specific VPS and see if they start to climb again, but, again, even after shutting down all the processes, those sockets are not being released, so there is a problem somewhere that that one VPS is triggering ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGSiX04QvfyHIvDvMRAoGpAJ0b05pHtfk514NafmDKcYcLYhFziQCfYxP+ mu5RXX5f516GiZHL4GFkeM8= =HLVo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 21:39:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C5316A400 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7983213C44C for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so280583pyh for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=fbxlf2t7VByM0NU/zEUaA7qWxr9agLY0UAgoGmO8a8QDprYsqtwJyDrKp+4jPSngQpRErMdY/7K/ReaxCTTUKlkirzJKUW7iynT0xrnvdPgRDuRDGn0rp884KtRAtYUlz+9+dNxAYcb+Rsek4Q+UREuuFRc8uLifkGeJExdnE8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=AWJgS/e/lDG+H1YaDm000kDWMCN+p2DIwVdXM9HT7mrNnXSViVKTQHc+wy/ScaDecGjZUxNDj0oXw/iFEt1tAZwfCUoRIWd0hPqRJcssKUiODFMymgqmfiH4TadNeBrz28LYwg6iUg0DiDgl0Uh39FTDuM7gGzTq9t/w1emFkVo= Received: by 10.65.133.8 with SMTP id k8mr1725233qbn.1179265171701; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local ( [85.180.170.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e14sm1147537qba.2007.05.15.14.39.29; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4FJYWXk011331; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:34:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4FJYVKm011330; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:34:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:34:31 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: Oliver Fromme Message-ID: <20070515193431.GC1462@roadrunner.q.local> Mail-Followup-To: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marsgmiro@gmail.com References: <28edec3c0705072045s18a2cb53ia4f66030e4e3fb22@mail.gmail.com> <200705081334.l48DYf9F085322@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705081334.l48DYf9F085322@lurza.secnetix.de> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, marsgmiro@gmail.com Subject: Re: mfs and buildworlds on the SunFire x4600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:32 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Mars G. Miro wrote: > > now we know buildworld on mfs dont really matter on high-end machines, > > No, we knew that before. I could have told you. :-) > > That was the first thing I tested when I first had access > to a machine with sufficient RAM, about 10 years ago. > I put /usr/src on an MFS disk, ran buildworld, and was > disappointed. I'm not intimately familiar with the build process, but I reckon it reads several small files several times (ie, they are cached) runs a CPU bound process, then writes a few bigger files once (objects and binaries). Not a good MFS test scenario, indeed. Ulrich Spoerlein -- "The trouble with the dictionary is you have to know how the word is spelled before you can look it up to see how it is spelled." -- Will Cuppy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 21:39:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE24D16A402 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB6813C457 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so280583pyh for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=gD5bX5rsTtuQPLVOe9P/eXT0FjQizTi3K12jxcIzXayXbZRH3NdeTP3hgS01/w9ctnXDjnU0smVYiAnfgl34tI2aOHYCjh2ImNaWO0rZdipKN4Z/9spdBNV7+ix1S5EmW1qM/RZBbjSHVQaHtFvixPu7Kjo53fK1VM4BxM98riU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=daIvVIm/mUdE0SEuZK6SWjWZycmGpTAaESFpW8PEZ1aX4hGTFlFgp52Ju56Jo/GPXjzbWfP2pn8UDSog7T+LhWR5+LdvNowG/yCUR2lWf1tAm00W2ny1BA6hGFZkJ78fjEwwtZ6jjEtCJUwEAggE+ap/tvQQfuRMVyKIxfWN/7Y= Received: by 10.65.114.11 with SMTP id r11mr1734957qbm.1179265173893; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local ( [85.180.170.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e14sm1147537qba.2007.05.15.14.39.31; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4FJdZrj011438; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4FJdZnk011437; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:35 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20070515193935.GD1462@roadrunner.q.local> Mail-Followup-To: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme References: <200705081314.l48DETdC084404@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Socket leak (Was: Re: What triggers "No Buffer Space) ?Available"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:39:34 -0000 I'm slowly cathing up on FreeBSD related mails and found this mail ... Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > kern.ipc.numopensockets: 7400 > > > kern.ipc.maxsockets: 12328 > > > > > > ps looks like: > > > > > > > > 2368 p2 Is+ Sat01PM 0:00.03 /bin/tcsh > root 2112 0.0 0.1 5220 > > 2360 p3 Ss+ Sat01PM 0:00.04 /bin/tcsh > root 91221 0.0 0.1 5140 > > 2440 p4 Ss+ 11:49PM 0:00.12 -tcsh (tcsh) > > > > I don't think those processes should consume 7400 sockets. > > Indeed, this really looks like a leak in the kernel. > > Robert has sent me a suggestion to try that I'm in the process of putting > together right now, involving backing out some work on uipc_usrreg.c ... How did the backing out work for you? Ulrich Spoerlein -- "The trouble with the dictionary is you have to know how the word is spelled before you can look it up to see how it is spelled." -- Will Cuppy From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 21:49:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E681616A405; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.225.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B279313C459; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20070515214921b1100kcg6pe>; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:49:32 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 37F051FA020; Tue, 15 May 2007 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:49:21 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme Message-ID: <20070515214921.GA30333@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme References: <200705081314.l48DETdC084404@lurza.secnetix.de> <20070515193935.GD1462@roadrunner.q.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070515193935.GD1462@roadrunner.q.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Subject: Re: Socket leak (Was: Re: What triggers "No Buffer Space) ?Available"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:49:33 -0000 On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 09:39:35PM +0200, Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: > How did the backing out work for you? Taken from another mail from Marc, since there's now multiple threads discussing this: >> Did we determine whether backing out to before the unpcb socket >> reference count change made any difference for you? > > The problem appeared to persist after backing it out ... -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 22:15:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E9716A400 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DD313C44C for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.191]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED3085CADA; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.191]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80878-09; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:59 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A0785C91A; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:14:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B069561892; Tue, 15 May 2007 19:15:02 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 19:15:02 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Ulrich Spoerlein Message-ID: <1BF547D525892BBD67EECA27@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20070515193935.GD1462@roadrunner.q.local> References: <200705081314.l48DETdC084404@lurza.secnetix.de> <20070515193935.GD1462@roadrunner.q.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: Socket leak (Was: Re: What triggers "No Buffer Space) ?Available"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It didn't .... kept climbing ... - --On Tuesday, May 15, 2007 21:39:35 +0200 Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: > I'm slowly cathing up on FreeBSD related mails and found this mail ... > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> > > kern.ipc.numopensockets: 7400 >> > > kern.ipc.maxsockets: 12328 >> > > >> > > ps looks like: >> > > >> >> >> >> > 2368 p2 Is+ Sat01PM 0:00.03 /bin/tcsh > root 2112 0.0 0.1 5220 >> > 2360 p3 Ss+ Sat01PM 0:00.04 /bin/tcsh > root 91221 0.0 0.1 5140 >> > 2440 p4 Ss+ 11:49PM 0:00.12 -tcsh (tcsh) >> > >> > I don't think those processes should consume 7400 sockets. >> > Indeed, this really looks like a leak in the kernel. >> >> Robert has sent me a suggestion to try that I'm in the process of putting >> together right now, involving backing out some work on uipc_usrreg.c ... > > How did the backing out work for you? > > Ulrich Spoerlein > -- > "The trouble with the dictionary is you have to know how the word is > spelled before you can look it up to see how it is spelled." > -- Will Cuppy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGSjDm4QvfyHIvDvMRAv+4AKCUc0ijgXs4igHymP94NGM5XAmvXQCfUi2X m/jpnf+voCioDKmJjedIRbw= =dyqI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 14:38:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D8816A400 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 14:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sharma.s@net4.in) Received: from smtpauth.net4india.com (smtpauth.net4india.com [202.71.129.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ECC13C44C for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 14:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sharma.s@net4.in) Received: from [202.71.133.39] (helo=[202.71.133.39]) by smtpauth.net4india.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 #1) id 1HoKUF-0006ln-Nk by authid with plain for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:58:19 +0530 Message-ID: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:42:28 +0530 From: Sachin Sharma User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:38:29 -0000 Hi All, NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me. Thanks -- Sachin Sharma Sr. Engineer Systems (Linux) Net4India Ltd. D-25 Sector 3 Noida-201301 INDIA Tel: 0120-5323500 Fax: 0120-5323520 URL: http://www.net4.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 14:44:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A4616A400 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 14:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1230E13C45A for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 14:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so196404wxc for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:44:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=Yn3BY6h02aulQJnKgAh0IqoL/MInHU82EihxHrsYkrQrlnb/JCCGzabnhblhxBAsyREnByYbqB8sj6qLhDKoPYvZg3zEwbORqpIkmb3JIDoxRBizsYHWY72OhlMZTBNNGowrrZnkwpJc2rsjtcC6Z3LB/suX2Xx5zkG4dO+DiM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=QPYNpCu3wctwjteYCmFx5ObvTx073V1JvcJRKhc8YAEe+IWT4H25mpisR1J75gdioGnsLo3ywDgi+4HE/Mkw8kT7Xj9qYk5X4CgSPXPooZEaiDku3z95pLikg+i4MTBkS+94ucADLBQlI0NvHi8r7YWC8388eQC2YtcE7AYiovY= Received: by 10.90.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr8074443agb.1179326659269; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1%693133673? ( [217.206.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 36sm1096678agc.2007.05.16.07.44.18; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:44:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: Sachin Sharma In-Reply-To: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dmsIUkRrgr3iwERVxhOr" Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:44:16 +0100 Message-Id: <1179326656.1714.1.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:44:20 -0000 --=-dmsIUkRrgr3iwERVxhOr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 19:42 +0530, Sachin Sharma wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade=20 > 1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me. >=20 > Thanks Please provide output of /usr/sbin/pciconf -lv and contents of /var/log/dmesg.boot after rebooting in verbose mode (at loader, choose loader prompt and enter 'boot -v'. --=-dmsIUkRrgr3iwERVxhOr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGSxi8lcRvFfyds/cRAjeTAKCTuyrLdBDu9orJNQ9eMYGuNKCT+gCeNfhs CxQ+qtk7XvD278PAmS+KnJQ= =MXfE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dmsIUkRrgr3iwERVxhOr-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 15:04:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9886316A403 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 15:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4AD13C457 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 15:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4GF4DDh052534; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:04:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:04:10 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sachin Sharma References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> In-Reply-To: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Wed, 16 May 2007 09:04:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:04:17 -0000 Sachin Sharma wrote: > Hi All, > > NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade > 1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me. > > Thanks Support for this card has been added since 6.2 was released. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 16:07:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF6416A406 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 16:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron1.sfsu.edu (iron1.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0482C13C465 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 16:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron1.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 16 May 2007 09:07:26 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CANDISkaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051609072530-267 ; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:24 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list In-Reply-To: <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> Message-ID: References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/16/2007 09:07:25, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/16/2007 09:07:25, Serialize complete at 05/16/2007 09:07:25 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:07:27 -0000 i did the command pkgdb -Ff and it broke my X (xfce4) the desktop had been able to come up, but the cursor was the "X" that it has while it is booting.. i was able to start a terminal, but not a mozilla browser. i had been able to use the terminal, but i could not move it around the desktop. pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango. now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 18:08:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B679F16A403 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog10.obsmtp.com (s200aog10.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D36613C44B for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob010.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:08:12 UTC Received: from [10.0.0.89] (bill.mintel.co.uk [10.0.0.89]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33960181424; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:08:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:09:47 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Vogel , FreeBSD Stable List References: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: EM and TSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:08:14 -0000 Jack Vogel wrote: > I introduced a change yesterday that limited TSO to PCI Express > adapters, I did this more for avoidance rather than a bug fix, and > I'm not 100% sure its the right thing, so I thought I would poll > everyone, do you have a PCI-X adapter and are using TSO without > problems and wish to keep the support in? > > If no one is then I'll just leave it as is. > > Jack I have a number of systems with built in em adapters (on the motherboard) is there any easy way to find out what type of bus these are connected to? Tom From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 18:11:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0264416A402 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from s200aog10.obsmtp.com (s200aog10.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 495C213C4B0 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from source ([217.206.187.80]) by eu1sys200aob010.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:11:40 UTC Received: from [10.0.0.89] (bill.mintel.co.uk [10.0.0.89]) by rodney.mintel.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3049E181423 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:11:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <464B49BC.1050003@tomjudge.com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:13:16 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Stable List References: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> In-Reply-To: <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: EM and TSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:11:42 -0000 Sorry sent this to the wrong list, should have been net@. Sorry for the spam. Tom Judge wrote: > Jack Vogel wrote: >> I introduced a change yesterday that limited TSO to PCI Express >> adapters, I did this more for avoidance rather than a bug fix, and >> I'm not 100% sure its the right thing, so I thought I would poll >> everyone, do you have a PCI-X adapter and are using TSO without >> problems and wish to keep the support in? >> >> If no one is then I'll just leave it as is. >> >> Jack > > I have a number of systems with built in em adapters (on the > motherboard) is there any easy way to find out what type of bus these > are connected to? > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 18:12:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8379116A402 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440FE13C484 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s1so707272nze for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SGXv2c+OCZkTrz2LFOhHjfjyScKvDd+UF+vyyBM+Rv19EVXxjzOGaZhZIU3iIYLWOwoaw2DxdZ8aOf2zMF7QFUsEjHLx0R5OS19dtqVRbCT8WVC7yPgyhMy/8OI1vm2O/quI2Vg26b7UPhMfuDlS6fhVH6u9hJKr7AIJNceMZL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mglF2LwPTn+2fp9d8WKJuE1LBnDcv9Q9dwPWVYOs/yXKumJZSGwCjUHYY+wDp872T9pmvRQqZfO5HjI549jfm28VtcRzrxE6II9/2EEXfuCe9qKQA+bO9N+/Bv79JggGNQMjeVpi8OeFpTkDTgPMvra4oi2PWllA5H71AUO+tgQ= Received: by 10.114.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr2394963waf.1179339119259; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.126.10 with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a41acea0705161111g12fb2cb2k5a091f91d044f601@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:11:59 -0700 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Tom Judge" In-Reply-To: <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: EM and TSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:12:03 -0000 pciconf -c -l should tell you all you need to know. Cheers, Jack On 5/16/07, Tom Judge wrote: > Jack Vogel wrote: > > I introduced a change yesterday that limited TSO to PCI Express > > adapters, I did this more for avoidance rather than a bug fix, and > > I'm not 100% sure its the right thing, so I thought I would poll > > everyone, do you have a PCI-X adapter and are using TSO without > > problems and wish to keep the support in? > > > > If no one is then I'll just leave it as is. > > > > Jack > > I have a number of systems with built in em adapters (on the > motherboard) is there any easy way to find out what type of bus these > are connected to? > > Tom > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 18:15:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F1616A401 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [216.148.227.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC8B13C44C for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20070516181530m11006funpe>; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:15:31 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A89091FA020; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:15:30 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Tom Judge Message-ID: <20070516181530.GA48926@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Judge , Jack Vogel , FreeBSD Stable List References: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: FreeBSD Stable List , Jack Vogel Subject: Re: EM and TSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:15:31 -0000 On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:09:47PM +0100, Tom Judge wrote: > Jack Vogel wrote: > > I introduced a change yesterday that limited TSO to PCI Express > > adapters, I did this more for avoidance rather than a bug fix, and > > I'm not 100% sure its the right thing, so I thought I would poll > > everyone, do you have a PCI-X adapter and are using TSO without > > problems and wish to keep the support in? > > If no one is then I'll just leave it as is. > > Jack This is for Jack: Did you mean PCI Express instead of PCI-X in your latter sentence? PCI Express != PCI-X. If you did mean PCI-X, then I would assume the change could also affect standard PCI devices... -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 18:22:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA4416A409 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD4213C447 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 18:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s1so711192nze for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iZpwBONxgiwmyFk7szAidMwv+MlFTSZd427ducQqwE5qzdQZfbSOUDAGZuxGv75EejWfwvaDMc5MYZcHcbXDowo2RkVaEj0DkinJwFcLJtOX+obKKg7s+8TbQxnmO6q2USbF4pVOG2+jMIpz7RSkpvAcgr/qUzBHHJbqZ3q12ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=olvElZztyxHbnnE4WH0si58/pmZxbjgfvE+gYicUqWe2aWhHbJsDk5ovFIrumO6kTFyQ1IteuEpOummH5vzNVGmkLRc5zlwNtFdNg7R1j2WEZS25K2tThUUXqKoArO3QriGxG+jiXU4aPfZg9vJ5v+fDSr0rD7Tg8JwNAytbE9I= Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr2403287wae.1179339737553; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.126.10 with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2007 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a41acea0705161122w2fcc95bencd6eb3417c4cb1d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 11:22:17 -0700 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Tom Judge" , "Jack Vogel" , "FreeBSD Stable List" In-Reply-To: <20070516181530.GA48926@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> <20070516181530.GA48926@icarus.home.lan> Cc: Subject: Re: EM and TSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:22:19 -0000 On 5/16/07, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:09:47PM +0100, Tom Judge wrote: > > Jack Vogel wrote: > > > I introduced a change yesterday that limited TSO to PCI Express > > > adapters, I did this more for avoidance rather than a bug fix, and > > > I'm not 100% sure its the right thing, so I thought I would poll > > > everyone, do you have a PCI-X adapter and are using TSO without > > > problems and wish to keep the support in? > > > If no one is then I'll just leave it as is. > > > Jack > > This is for Jack: > > Did you mean PCI Express instead of PCI-X in your latter sentence? > PCI Express != PCI-X. > > If you did mean PCI-X, then I would assume the change could also > affect standard PCI devices... I know PCIE != PCI-X :) Sorry about all the confusion, it doesnt matter, I'm going to put the code back to exactly the way it was, so everyone that had TSO before will again. Jack From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 19:33:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D0216A408 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C216513C45A for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4GJXZnd054455; Wed, 16 May 2007 13:33:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <464B5C8B.1040203@samsco.org> Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:33:31 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Judge , Jack Vogel , FreeBSD Stable List References: <2a41acea0705161030k40831aa5o168b5bc40fcf3352@mail.gmail.com> <464B48EB.20906@tomjudge.com> <20070516181530.GA48926@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20070516181530.GA48926@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Wed, 16 May 2007 13:33:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: Subject: Re: EM and TSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:33:43 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 07:09:47PM +0100, Tom Judge wrote: >> Jack Vogel wrote: >>> I introduced a change yesterday that limited TSO to PCI Express >>> adapters, I did this more for avoidance rather than a bug fix, and >>> I'm not 100% sure its the right thing, so I thought I would poll >>> everyone, do you have a PCI-X adapter and are using TSO without >>> problems and wish to keep the support in? >>> If no one is then I'll just leave it as is. >>> Jack > > This is for Jack: > > Did you mean PCI Express instead of PCI-X in your latter sentence? > PCI Express != PCI-X. > > If you did mean PCI-X, then I would assume the change could also > affect standard PCI devices... > Considering that Intel has been a driving member of the PCI-SIG and one of the core proponents of PCIe, I would imagine that every Intel engineer has this knowledge drilled directly into their brains within a few hours of stepping foot on the Intel campus =-) Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 19:52:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F47616A400 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6275B13C448 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 39638 invoked by uid 1001); 16 May 2007 19:52:39 -0000 To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:52:39 +0200 Message-ID: <86d510y29k.fsf@sparrow.local> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: CARP make panics after upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:52:51 -0000 >From FreeBSD 5.4 to FreeBSD 6.2. I had two old FreeBSD 5.4 servers, and when I upgraded one of them CARP was crashing that upgraded machine which was in backup mode. I had to shutdown the carp interface so I can work. Later I figured out that in new versions of FreeBSD configuration was changed, so when I switched to new configuration everything worked fine. I think it's worth mentioning it here. Here is the old config that panics, man pfsync(4) from 5.4 cloned_interfaces="carp0 carp1" network_interfaces="lo0 sis0 sis1 sis2 carp0 carp1 pfsync0" ifconfig_sis0="10.0.0.254/24" ifconfig_sis1="192.168.0.254/24" ifconfig_sis2="192.168.254.254/24" ifconfig_carp0="vhid 1 pass foo 10.0.0.1/24" ifconfig_carp1="vhid 2 pass bar 192.168.0.1/24" ifconfig_pfsync0="up syncif sis2" And here is the new config that doesn't network_interfaces="lo0 sis0 sis1 sis2" cloned_interfaces="carp0 carp1" ifconfig_sis0="10.0.0.254/24" ifconfig_sis1="192.168.0.254/24" ifconfig_sis2="192.168.254.254/24" ifconfig_carp0="vhid 1 pass foo 10.0.0.1/24" ifconfig_carp1="vhid 2 pass bar 192.168.0.1/24" pfsync_enable="YES" pfsync_syncdev="sis2" -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 19:57:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45E216A407 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1265F13C4AD for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 19:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 39582 invoked by uid 1001); 16 May 2007 19:31:06 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:31:06 +0200 Message-ID: <86odkk36rp.fsf@sparrow.local> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: question about CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:57:58 -0000 In handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html is written that two machines should have different VHIDs. But man page of carp says VHIDs should be the same. Which is wright configuration? From handbook or from man page? 6.2-RELEASE-p4 -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 20:02:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28CA16A406 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 20:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sullrich@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B74613C4BF for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 20:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sullrich@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so606446pyh for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 13:02:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n8aFDS+kiffdoQnZgYghp7PICJqgt3yKcf7vnkISEktZm/bX+yfrftbBmqTm1JujaUprP/raHXFnJnUp/S2vAqgfeW+3bkdfryEoiOkBN90RXPdTa5HGMRc8c8pVSCTF5ABS9ZEO1oM84cy81WRy6AHrC18KlNGXhYqwofo3BgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oU6h11m6RUoodMOQ2HDdbh6HJQ99nd9sBjjBVZdxRW2+uEd2nurmw0H1XTU2sLEbtIsCZrF06/m4KjradCGdHL2W164L8FT4APw/Ay0CgIgiwAF+N+95J7vc4sImoufzQuQjeENS8OvIZrApwSokfZOagtU3Jy0i6GfNnCGhgqU= Received: by 10.114.193.1 with SMTP id q1mr2468759waf.1179345770888; Wed, 16 May 2007 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.173.13 with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2007 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:02:50 -0400 From: "Scott Ullrich" To: "Marko Lerota" In-Reply-To: <86odkk36rp.fsf@sparrow.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <86odkk36rp.fsf@sparrow.local> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:02:54 -0000 On 5/16/07, Marko Lerota wrote: > In handbook at: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/carp.html > is written that two machines should have different VHIDs. > > But man page of carp says VHIDs should be the same. > Which is wright configuration? From handbook or from man page? > > 6.2-RELEASE-p4 Each shared CARP IP should have the same VHID. The example in the handbook lists two CARP IP addresses. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 16 20:14:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA1916A400 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 20:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEFC13C46C for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 20:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 39735 invoked by uid 1001); 16 May 2007 20:14:09 -0000 To: "Scott Ullrich" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: (Scott Ullrich's message of "Wed, 16 May 2007 16:02:50 -0400") References: <86odkk36rp.fsf@sparrow.local> Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 22:14:09 +0200 Message-ID: <86y7jowmpa.fsf@sparrow.local> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:14:21 -0000 "Scott Ullrich" writes: > Each shared CARP IP should have the same VHID. The example in the > handbook lists two CARP IP addresses. Now I get it. I didn't saw different IP's. TNX -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 12:51:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE5716A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4931313C458 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 10089 invoked from network); 17 May 2007 12:51:15 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 May 2007 12:51:15 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C11A92843A; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:51:13 -0400 (EDT) To: KAYVEN RIESE References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:51:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: (KAYVEN RIESE's message of "Wed\, 16 May 2007 09\:07\:24 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:51:16 -0000 KAYVEN RIESE writes: > i did the command pkgdb -Ff and it broke my X (xfce4) the desktop > had been able to come up, but the cursor was the "X" that it has > while it is booting.. i was able to start a terminal, but not a mozilla > browser. i had been able to use the terminal, but i could not move it > around the desktop. > > pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango. > > now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4 I think you missed some of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING. I'm also a bit confused on exactly what you did, because pkgdb doesn't make any changes to the programs you can run. At this point, you need to start by making sure that programs that use pango are updated to use the new one. Something like "portupgrade -fr pango". This question would probably have been most appropriate for the freebsd-ports mailing list. Be well. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 13:55:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630D016A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sharma.s@net4.in) Received: from smtpauth.net4india.com (smtpauth.net4india.com [202.71.129.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1357A13C447 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sharma.s@net4.in) Received: from [202.71.133.39] (helo=[202.71.133.39]) by smtpauth.net4india.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43 #1) id 1HogRP-00038r-3s by authid with plain; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:24:51 +0530 Message-ID: <464C5ADF.6020309@net4.in> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:08:39 +0530 From: Sachin Sharma User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0RC1 (X11/20041209) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060003060104060206060901" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:55:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060003060104060206060901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, FreeBSD 6.2 Kernel don't support Broadcom NIC BCM 5708S model. One need to patch kernel Source to make it live. Below i written steps i took. 1, Download patch http://people.freebsd.org/~dwhite/patches/bce-serdes-20070111.tar.gz 2, cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf 3, cp GENRIC MYKERNEL 4, mkdir /root/kernels 5, cp GENRIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL 6. ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL 7, cd /usr/src 8, make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL 9 make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL Now Reboot !! Sachin Sharma Sr. Engineer Systems (Linux) Net4India Ltd. D-25 Sector 3 Noida-201301 INDIA Tel: 0120-5323500 Fax: 0120-5323520 URL: http://www.net4.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Long wrote: > Sachin Sharma wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge >> Blade 1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me. >> >> Thanks > > > Support for this card has been added since 6.2 was released. > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --------------060003060104060206060901-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 15:50:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1304716A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from sumo.dreamhost.com (sumo.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F9F13C45A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnsanchez@wait4.org) Received: from spunkymail-a14.g.dreamhost.com (mailbigip.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.5]) by sumo.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A48D17FCC9 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sauron.lan.box (unknown [200.180.187.187]) by spunkymail-a14.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE462190E26 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:18:41 -0300 From: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070517121841.a3c2b606.rnsanchez@wait4.org> In-Reply-To: <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Organization: SYS_WAIT4 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-unknown-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:50:45 -0000 On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:51:13 -0400 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango. > > > > now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4 > > I think you missed some of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING. > I'm also a bit confused on exactly what you did, because pkgdb doesn't > make any changes to the programs you can run. At this point, you need > to start by making sure that programs that use pango are updated to > use the new one. Something like "portupgrade -fr pango". And don't forget the big warning about gettext upgrade to 0.16, which may break things which depend on gettext (which is a lot of things, including Xfce). -- Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez rnsanchez@wait4.org Powered by FreeBSD "Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse." From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 15:58:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3548616A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F55213C46A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so300879ugh for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:58:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WDA8RjxCgDPQxu/uIQiWQplyVY3+Mi6NorUEt46HaFSjfElOXzSz3V+oiEvyWhB+8GrkwyBZRB+hl6TZEEtrj04PGg0wAQx+1haTDPBwjepn4mU7dy8jpIZE0v11gt28NJ9JhXmL5ICpxadwuCy4hrgBztg/WUcfb3vzeSRAOzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hTED8MLuNfbSRZN7rnfBwmwKl9iYPLmgvmw03w27d9Sjl0kEoi9VE52lDKCbaJmKjiPmhpWzRYZoN0Pvt4m7rCmnRBjo50mleI36HwXJuZoVVhi/CHpVg0T1r0yFW315w9eSaDLDDjGtZuyhWqt5D+Fbo+KyF6JaioSZ33cb8u4= Received: by 10.67.115.7 with SMTP id s7mr347267ugm.1179415850536; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.16 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:30:50 +0100 From: Chris To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58:23 -0000 I have mentioned this before about releasing a new major version of FreeBSD at such short intervals. Now I am wondering what path the FreeBSD community is taking in regards to server and desktop use. Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release which looks like it isnt going to happen Multi IP Jails - waiting since 4.x, patches done for both 5.x and 6.x but never commited. Dynamic tcp windows - I think is patched but not heard if commited. More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics. A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD. Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope with. The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a result of this? The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0 hits release. Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch. I consider 6.2 to be the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that release is under a year old before a new major release is due. Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of linux so not been a troll this is a serious post. Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 16:03:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4376C16A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7EF13C468 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 09:03:18 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAPsZTEaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051709025543-356 ; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:02:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:02:56 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/17/2007 09:02:55, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/17/2007 09:03:17, Serialize complete at 05/17/2007 09:03:17 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:03:24 -0000 so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade comamnd, just verifying On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > KAYVEN RIESE writes: > >> i did the command pkgdb -Ff and it broke my X (xfce4) the desktop >> had been able to come up, but the cursor was the "X" that it has >> while it is booting.. i was able to start a terminal, but not a mozilla >> browser. i had been able to use the terminal, but i could not move it >> around the desktop. >> >> pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango. >> >> now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4 > > I think you missed some of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING. > I'm also a bit confused on exactly what you did, because pkgdb doesn't > make any changes to the programs you can run. At this point, you need > to start by making sure that programs that use pango are updated to > use the new one. Something like "portupgrade -fr pango". > > This question would probably have been most appropriate for the > freebsd-ports mailing list. > > Be well. > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 16:22:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F232816A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristiano.deana@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C7713C4B0 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristiano.deana@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so143136and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:22:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NZnjxUpkjfsE68W1KQkgOhXmsLaiQv79B5LEABzslsWEZSSWgIqprWv6hkSjuCR1QJWSCIJNf3LWqeXW/MXxmfqPMB+BRz0qNQOAM5A8jrukFhmVSNsLTBX+iRZaqleNwbKnDS73k1zto+zylxsxA+k+8PN2YSG/jI7HN9qD06c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CHQSBPUYjUwS43ndJMZxFlDC6dHEKdyq1akcQxZyLZMcmnd69MFcmLH2GJfv4Obv/T7qukdRcEogo8NYFYqPH3t1j2xzrMltbl1aCn8tShL6LJC0f54PIVONCiPa6BVaPirQg5/VSPBNgiWoIymkWuXULdCUAGlqnO3bt4SzwXE= Received: by 10.100.144.11 with SMTP id r11mr415475and.1179417209544; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.8.13 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 08:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:53:29 +0200 From: "Cristiano Deana" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> Subject: Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:22:48 -0000 2007/5/16, Sachin Sharma : Hi, > NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade > 1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me. it works with 6.2-STABLE. download a 6.2 snapshot and install it. works fine here -- Cris, member of G.U.F.I Italian FreeBSD User Group http://www.gufi.org/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 16:33:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA6216A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB5413C483 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB5C1A3C19; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B8B2451488; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:33:01 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chris Message-ID: <20070517163301.GA7602@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:33:03 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +0100, Chris wrote: > The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest > ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago > and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers > running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a > result of this? I'll leave the src release discussion for others, and just remark that this claim is entirely false: every release cycle has had a longer ports freeze than this one, with the same consequences. We don't take freezes lightly, and the alternative is to import a bunch of incompletely tested changes that will cause untold chaos for our users. I'm sure you wouldn't advocate that. Kris (for portmgr) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 17:22:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C92116A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (mail-gw0.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2C113C447 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4HGp8NN001106; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:51:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy-128.york.ac.uk ([144.32.128.160] helo=buffy.york.ac.uk) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HojC0-0003kh-E3; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:51:08 +0100 Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4HGp7Zx088734; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:51:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l4HGp7Pm088733; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:51:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: buffy.york.ac.uk: ga9 set sender to gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk using -f From: Gavin Atkinson To: Chris In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:51:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:22:25 -0000 On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:30 +0100, Chris wrote: > Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release > which looks like it isnt going to happen [snip] > More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when > compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics. Do you actually have a card which isn't recognised or doesn't work? I can only see one open PR about an unsupported Realtek NIC, and that is a specific 3 port NIC, which is probably trivial to support. I note also that Realtek do provide FreeBSD drivers for all of their PCI network cards. If you are having problems, open a PR, and include information about the card, a verbose dmesg, and the output of "pciconf -l" at the bare minimum. > A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD. Although work on a new installer is "ongoing", nobody ever seems to be clear what the problems are with the current installer that they are trying to fix. I believe PC-BSD uses a different installer, which is the current candidate, although I personally prefer the current one. I'm guessing a new installer never make everybody happy. > Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low > amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope > with. Again, 6.x is proving very stable for a *lot* of people. What sort of problems are you seeing? URLs to posts on mailing lists would be fine. As there are so many people using 6.x for huge work loads, it may well be something specific to your workload/hardware etc, in which case you may well have to help with debugging. > The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest > ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago > and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers > running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a > result of this? Kris has already responded to this. > The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least > every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches > will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now > and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0 > hits release. [ I speak purely as a FreeBSD user myself, here] Information on EoLs of various releases is available at http://www.freebsd.org/security/ - showing that support for both both 5.5 and 6.1 extend over a year from now. Given the current plan is to release 7.0 some time this year, there's at least 6 months of overlap there. And given 6.3 isn't yet released, and "will be supported by the Security Officer for a minimum of 12 months after the release", there will be a fair amount of overlap there too. And I wouldn't be surprised if at least one more 6.x release is designated an "extended support" release. > Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and > then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is > considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/past-schedules.html explains this far better than I ever could. > I consider 6.2 to be > the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that > release is under a year old before a new major release is due. Again, without knowing what issues you saw, I'm not sure anyone can answer that. The only real issues I am aware of with 6.0/6.1 that weren't fixed with errata patches were either quota, IPv6 or CARP related. > Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of > linux so not been a troll this is a serious post. Please don't take my response as a flame :) Gavin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 17:27:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304CF16A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D33013C484 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 15168 invoked from network); 17 May 2007 17:27:52 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 May 2007 17:27:52 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 849002843A; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:27:51 -0400 (EDT) To: KAYVEN RIESE References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:27:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (KAYVEN RIESE's message of "Thu\, 17 May 2007 09\:02\:56 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:27:53 -0000 Please don't top-post. KAYVEN RIESE writes: > so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade > comamnd, just verifying Yes. Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on pango being unable to use the new version. Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any other issues you need to take special action for at the same time. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 17:29:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BD516A405 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net (alnrmhc11.comcast.net [206.18.177.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC04F13C448 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20070517172900b1100kahhre>; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:29:01 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA6C81FA020; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:28:59 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Sachin Sharma Message-ID: <20070517172859.GA69514@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Sachin Sharma , Scott Long , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> <464C5ADF.6020309@net4.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <464C5ADF.6020309@net4.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:29:02 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 07:08:39PM +0530, Sachin Sharma wrote: > Hi, > > FreeBSD 6.2 Kernel don't support Broadcom NIC BCM 5708S model. One need to > patch kernel Source to make it live. Below i written steps i took. > > 1, Download patch > http://people.freebsd.org/~dwhite/patches/bce-serdes-20070111.tar.gz > 2, cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > 3, cp GENRIC MYKERNEL > 4, mkdir /root/kernels > 5, cp GENRIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL > 6. ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL > 7, cd /usr/src > 8, make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > 9 make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > > Now Reboot !! The code/patch in question was committed to the RELENG_6 tree a while ago. All you need to do is cvsup/csup your sourcecode to the most "recent snapshot/version" of 6.2 (not what's on the CD, and not 6.2-RELEASE), and that should suffice. For instructions on how to do this, see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html Note that 6, however, comes with a tool called "csup" (the C version of cvsup), which performs identically and does not require you to install ports/net/cvsup. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 17:39:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11DE16A406 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS1=bc7b2056a2aeff94f34b38f3a174a04fd4b26982=es.net==bc7b2056a2aeff94f34b38f3a174a04fd4b26982=338=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3C013C4BE for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS1=bc7b2056a2aeff94f34b38f3a174a04fd4b26982=es.net==bc7b2056a2aeff94f34b38f3a174a04fd4b26982=338=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id WWP08519 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:24:19 -0700 Received: from postal1.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id WWP59216 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:24:16 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP (SSL) id WWP44115; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:24:15 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 06DEF45042; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:24:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Chris In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 May 2007 16:30:50 BST." <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1179422655_25350P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:24:15 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:39:49 -0000 --==_Exmh_1179422655_25350P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:30:50 +0100 > From: Chris > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > I have mentioned this before about releasing a new major version of > FreeBSD at such short intervals. Now I am wondering what path the > FreeBSD community is taking in regards to server and desktop use. > > Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release > which looks like it isnt going to happen > > Multi IP Jails - waiting since 4.x, patches done for both 5.x and 6.x > but never commited. No idea. > Dynamic tcp windows - I think is patched but not heard if commited. It should be in 7.0. 7.0 will have really major network improvements. I even had one vendor tell us that if we wanted to improve the performance of their 10GE card, we should switch from Linux to FreeBSD-current. > More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when > compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics. An on-going issue. Linux simply has more people working on device support, so it often (but no always) gets support first. Current does have several new network devices including more wireless NICs. > A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD. While sysinstall is ugly, I find it very easy to use and use it for non-installation stuff (fdisk and bsdlabel) for its friendlier user interface. I have never been happy with GUI installers although a re-write if sysinstall would probably be a good thing. > Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low > amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope > with. This is probably better, but I have not done much testing. > The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest > ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago > and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers > running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a > result of this? Now this is totally bogus. The freeze before the 6.0 release was VERY long and several have been longer than this one has been so far. The ports collection is one of the greatest things about FreeBSD and having lots of ports break when a major one (such as Xorg) is updated is very difficult and takes a lot of time to build test everything. Just creating an upgrade procedure that works for everyone running FreeBSD of any supported version is a major effort. > The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least > every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches > will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now > and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0 > hits release. ??? I should leave this to others, but in the past FreeBSD has received heavy criticism for taking too long between releases. I guess you just can't win. Yes, V5 development is pretty well at an end (though V5 was not one of FreeBSD's better releases and I never used it on production systems), but V6 support will continue for quite a while. > Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and > then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is > considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch. I consider 6.2 to be > the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that > release is under a year old before a new major release is due. The release of V5.0 was as a development release because V5.0 had so many changes from V4 that all developers had to know that there were going to be problems, but the RE team also realized that, if they did not draw a line in the sand, it would only get worse. I am VERY sure that RE and the developers NEVER want to go through that again. As of today, CURRENT is in pretty excellent shape, but it still does have a few issues and more will certainly pop up when it is released. No one who has any experience is going to drop 7.0 on any critical system. I run it on one desktop and my laptop. I am NOT going to install 7.0 on my DNS servers or any other critical system. Depending on how things go with 7.0, I will probably install 7.1 on most systems. I may be braver than most, though (or more foolish). > Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of > linux so not been a troll this is a serious post. I'm not flaming (yet), because you ask some good questions and are probably suffering from fading memory of prior releases. (I know that I try to forget a couple of them.) -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1179422655_25350P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFGTI+/kn3rs5h7N1ERAghWAJ9BQKUH7UQ0jp26xu/QAGFD9iW1fQCfVu2N nkd69pCuOXvpVP7NvK5QoUE= =LqUV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1179422655_25350P-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 18:10:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9793216A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.192.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820E213C459 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from icarus.home.lan (c-71-198-0-135.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[71.198.0.135]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20070517181006m11006gm9ce>; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:10:07 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4149E1FA020; Thu, 17 May 2007 11:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:10:06 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Gavin Atkinson Message-ID: <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Gavin Atkinson , Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:10:07 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 05:51:07PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:30 +0100, Chris wrote: > > A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD. > > Although work on a new installer is "ongoing", nobody ever seems to be > clear what the problems are with the current installer that they are > trying to fix. I believe PC-BSD uses a different installer, which is > the current candidate, although I personally prefer the current one. > I'm guessing a new installer never make everybody happy. As someone who has had to show many people "how" to use the FreeBSD installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some of which I have); 1) Difficult to tell what's in-focus (selectiom menu vs. OK/Cancel) on the screen. This could be solved by using a different colour for the selection area (instead of blue, use something like cyan/teal), I think. 2) Many buttons are labelled "Cancel" rather than "Go Back". Some cancel the entire operation (go back to the main menu), others go back a step. Users find this inconsistency to be confusing. 3) Conflicting definitions of keypresses in the menu vs. the OK/Cancel box at the bottom. For example, under Keymap, one of the menu items is labelled (C)entral European ISO, while "C" is also used for (C)ancel, depending upon which focus/menu context you're in. This confuses people. 4) Some Cancel/Abort items are labelled (C)ancel, others are (X)Exit. Make up your mind; people want a consistent key! 5) I forget which stage of the installation this happens in, but when choosing Cancel/Abort, the dialog you get asks you if you want to continue with the operation or abort. If you choose abort, it reboots the machine. This seems unnecessary. 6) I'll point out that you can hit "X" to jump to the "Exit" (go back) menu item, but *only* if that menu item is visible on the screen. I've heard numerous complaints about that as well (and personally I agree with it). 7) The Options menu area requires you to scroll all the way to the bottom of the left column of options, and further down past it to reach the right column. Users hit the Right Arrow key to go to the right column, which does nothing. 8) Video console is 80x25. I am quite happy with this myself, but some others want something larger. This gets complex since to get something larger I believe we require use of VESA. I thought I'd mention it anyways. 9) Lack of mouse support in the menus. I haven't confirmed this, but it seems to me that based on the installer's look, people expect the mouse to work. I personally don't like the mouse (I find gpm to be better/more responsive/capable than moused.), but their point is still valid. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 18:35:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2233316A404 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig@feniz.gank.org) Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC7D13C448 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig@feniz.gank.org) Received: by ion.gank.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1BF41124E; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:35:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:35:10 -0500 From: Craig Boston To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> Mail-Followup-To: Craig Boston , Kevin Oberman , Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:35:14 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 10:24:15AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest > > ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago > > and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers > > running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a > > result of this? > > Now this is totally bogus. The freeze before the 6.0 release was VERY > long and several have been longer than this one has been so far. I think the complaint may be more a result of this being a deeper freeze than normal. When ports is frozen before a release, it is often still possible to get things like security fixes and minor updates approved and committed. The only time it's completely frozen is during branching, which typically doesn't take very long. I don't know if portmgr@ has approved any commits during the xorg freeze or not. Even if so I suspect the "critical" bar may be higher this time due to the need to manually merge changes into the git repository. That said, it's a major undertaking and there are valid arguments on both sides. Hopefully it will be done soon (keep in mind this is still a volunteer project!) > ??? I should leave this to others, but in the past FreeBSD has received > heavy criticism for taking too long between releases. I guess you just > can't win. Yes, V5 development is pretty well at an end (though V5 was > not one of FreeBSD's better releases and I never used it on production > systems), but V6 support will continue for quite a while. One thing to keep in mind is that with shorter releases, it's a lot easier to move from one release to the next. It was a Very Big Deal to upgrade from 4.x to 5.x and required lots of pain and planning, mostly because so much had changed. Going from 5.x to 6.x was much easier -- for those upgrading from source it wasn't much different than point releases on the 5.x line. I recently upgraded a 6.x server to 7-CURRENT to test out zfs and again it was just like cvsupping and building stable. There's some library version issues, but those should be resolved before the 7.0 release happens. It's still nowhere near the massive undertaking from 4 to 5. > I am VERY sure that RE and the developers NEVER want to go through that > again. Nor the users ;) > No one who has any experience is going to drop 7.0 on any critical > system. I run it on one desktop and my laptop. I am NOT going to > install 7.0 on my DNS servers or any other critical system. I'm running -current on my home file server, which is fairly critical to me, but then again I'm obsessive about backups, which helps :) I don't think I'd be brave enough to try it on business-critical systems though, which I suspect is your meaning. Craig From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 18:37:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A31316A404 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron1.sfsu.edu (iron1.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017D013C448 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron1.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 11:37:17 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CABw9TEaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051711371628-368 ; Thu, 17 May 2007 11:37:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:37:15 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Message-ID: References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/17/2007 11:37:16, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/17/2007 11:37:16, Serialize complete at 05/17/2007 11:37:16 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:37:18 -0000 On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Please don't top-post. > > KAYVEN RIESE writes: > >> so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade >> comamnd, just verifying > > Yes. Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on > pango being unable to use the new version. > > Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any > other issues you need to take special action for at the same time. > this guy seems to disagree jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages from xfce. If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed either. Ricardo's comment (in your parallel thread on the freebsd-stable mailing list) about the gettext upgrade is probably relevant as well. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 19:05:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B2E16A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4985613C480 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 12:05:09 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACRETEaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051712050695-377 ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:05:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/17/2007 12:05:07, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/17/2007 12:05:09, Serialize complete at 05/17/2007 12:05:09 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: make mplayer failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:05:09 -0000 here is my error message onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0 atk >= 1.9.0 pa ngo >= 1.12.0 cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met: No package 'atk' found Requested 'cairo >= 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. Alternatively, you may set the environment variables BASE_DEPENDENCIES_CFLAGS and BASE_DEPENDENCIES_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. See the pkg-config man page for more details. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from "http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a) "/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.10.11/config.log", (b) the output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website, copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) with the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list (gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are usually discarded by the mailing list software. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer. bsd@/root# find / -name gnomelogalyzer.sh From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 19:07:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F04916A40E for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron1.sfsu.edu (iron1.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7399D13C45B for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron1.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 12:07:40 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CACRETEaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051712073956-379 ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:07:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: freeBSD bugs mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/17/2007 12:07:39, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/17/2007 12:07:40, Serialize complete at 05/17/2007 12:07:40 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: last email X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:07:40 -0000 what i sent may or may not make sense. i run pine for email client and am having some buffer lag right now. my keystrokes are not being immeditaelyt echoed and i didn't really mean to send it. if it DOES make sense, feeel free to comment. sorry about that. also typos are a symptom of the keystroke buffer sitch. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 19:11:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A4416A406 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF92C13C465 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 12:11:17 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAHBFTEaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051712111567-383 ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:11:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <200705171446.33965.lists@jnielsen.net> Message-ID: References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200705171446.33965.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/17/2007 12:11:15, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/17/2007 12:11:16, Serialize complete at 05/17/2007 12:11:16 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:11:18 -0000 On Thu, 17 May 2007, John Nielsen wrote: > On Thursday 17 May 2007 02:37:15 pm KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >> On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> Please don't top-post. >>> >>> KAYVEN RIESE writes: >>>> so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the >>>> portupgrade comamnd, just verifying >>> >>> Yes. Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on >>> pango being unable to use the new version. >>> >>> Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any >>> other issues you need to take special action for at the same time. >> >> this guy seems to disagree >> >> jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and >> reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages >> from xfce. >> >> If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed >> either. > > Portupgrade with the -r option is very useful, and you will probably want to > use it. My point was that _before_ you try that you should figure out why > portupgrade is failing to upgrade pango, and/or upgrade it manually. > Otherwise it will just keep failing. > > JN > i guess i can see how u guys r on the same page then. he says -r won't help, u say it's nice. makes sense From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 19:19:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E2516A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8797013C448 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l4HIklc5044401; Thu, 17 May 2007 14:46:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:46:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705171446.33965.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: KAYVEN RIESE Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:19:44 -0000 On Thursday 17 May 2007 02:37:15 pm KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Please don't top-post. > > > > KAYVEN RIESE writes: > >> so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the > >> portupgrade comamnd, just verifying > > > > Yes. Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on > > pango being unable to use the new version. > > > > Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any > > other issues you need to take special action for at the same time. > > this guy seems to disagree > > jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and > reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages > from xfce. > > If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed > either. Portupgrade with the -r option is very useful, and you will probably want to use it. My point was that _before_ you try that you should figure out why portupgrade is failing to upgrade pango, and/or upgrade it manually. Otherwise it will just keep failing. JN From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 19:39:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934DD16A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE8113C459 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so159630and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:39:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=jRpUWPChabtgcrWPTZhjDftT6z2aD2K0TtDzj+pTusJ/Xz5F4MnMGVQivYHH5m0DXfvi5ZiMkRbcVoF5AAoDvZwVJPQR7MeDhKKxu1WNQ05l1Dapu+G6cuLSdLMFgrCiq3AwShftVCGDBX4nnejpkSEp675cTdbXrYXxkcCqyIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=mBz2sSCqFCMcTz6ZBqSmMsFDzuusk1zAjveWrKzuXzqssFEISE5HeEOgJLX4krPiKnN6JxfNwM144eNijbd9r/Kz+mj3Z/T4MSxa0jIPHyttWzDJVML++O1C4sKnX4ZBTdTdd5oSUPmqPyt5+7hy6uXikIxuq1aicOKNMGxYqBo= Received: by 10.100.95.19 with SMTP id s19mr571332anb.1179429250428; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LettingGo ( [68.183.91.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d38sm3493160and.2007.05.17.12.14.08; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Albert Wong" To: Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:14:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AceYt45FDltDnBwXSIyyWZ3yoiQKDw== Message-ID: <464ca981.68894365.5671.6d22@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:39:45 -0000 Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem as well... I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every day or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays there indefinitely.... locking down the system [until I do an "apachectl restart"] after which the server load drops back down. I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following error, usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins: httpd in free(): error: recursive call httpd in free(): error: recursive call [Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and MySQL 4.1. I am trying to use the libthr threading mechanism through the libmap.conf setting, as to earlier in this thread post, as a possible fix. [Though, I don't know if I have in fact been successful in switching to libthr or not... because I'm not sure if I need to recompile / reboot? I don't know if mysql was install from a port or not.] In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in /etc/libmap.conf]: [mysqld] libc_r.so libthr.so libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 libpthread.so libthr.so libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 and I also added ... WITH_LIBMAP= yes to my make.conf file. Is there something else I need to do [e.g., recompile? / reboot?] in order to activate libthr? The problem remains even with these adjustments. Blessings, Albert Wong www.ithou.org PS. The mysql_logfile is completely empty... I don't know if that is unusual or not. PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine: [mysqld] safe-show-database skip-innodb max_connections = 500 key_buffer = 32M myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M join_buffer_size = 1M read_buffer_size = 1M sort_buffer_size = 2M table_cache = 1800 thread_cache_size = 384 wait_timeout = 90 connect_timeout = 10 tmp_table_size = 64M max_heap_table_size = 64M max_allowed_packet = 16M max_connect_errors = 10 read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M query_cache_limit = 3M query_cache_size = 80M query_cache_type = 1 query_prealloc_size = 163840 query_alloc_block_size = 32768 skip-name-resolve [mysqld_safe] open_files_limit = 8192 [mysqldump] quick max_allowed_packet = 16M [myisamchk] key_buffer = 16M sort_buffer = 16M read_buffer = 16M write_buffer = 16M [mysqlhotcopy] interactive-timeout log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 19:40:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F376816A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD52913C459 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 19:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9538 invoked from network); 17 May 2007 19:40:37 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 May 2007 19:40:37 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C914C2843A; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:40:36 -0400 (EDT) To: KAYVEN RIESE References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <464B1D6A.1040809@samsco.org> <44tzubr4u6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:40:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (KAYVEN RIESE's message of "Thu\, 17 May 2007 11\:37\:15 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44fy5vi6h7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 19:40:38 -0000 KAYVEN RIESE writes: > On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> Please don't top-post. >> >> KAYVEN RIESE writes: >> >>> so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade >>> comamnd, just verifying >> >> Yes. Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on >> pango being unable to use the new version. >> >> Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any >> other issues you need to take special action for at the same time. >> > > this guy seems to disagree > > jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and > reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error > messages from xfce. > > If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed > either. That's true. I seem to have missed wherever it was that you said that the portupgrade of pango had failed. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:06:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A4B16A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B43A13C455 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 2802AA55; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:06:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:06:15 -0500 To: Craig Boston , Kevin Oberman , Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070517200615.GA19092@soaustin.net> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:06:15 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:35:10PM -0500, Craig Boston wrote: > > Now this is totally bogus. The freeze before the 6.0 release was VERY > > long and several have been longer than this one has been so far. > > I think the complaint may be more a result of this being a deeper freeze > than normal. That's correct. > When ports is frozen before a release, it is often still > possible to get things like security fixes and minor updates approved > and committed. The only time it's completely frozen is during > branching, which typically doesn't take very long. Most "freezes" are really more of a slush. This is the first time we've done an absolute, hard, freeze of this length in a long time. But importnng or upgrading several hundred ports, moving those and others from X11BASE to LOCALBASE, and all the associated testing and retesting and re-retesting just simply requires that we have everything locked down tight right now. The alternative would have been to commit what we had and _then_ found out all the bugs in the upgrade process (note: you won't be able to just blindly use portupgrade -af; you will need to read the UPDATING file for the proper procedure. This is the unusual case of being such a sweeping change that the port management tools are not completely up to the task.) > I don't know if portmgr@ has approved any commits during the xorg freeze > or not. Nope. There are simply too many ports that have interdependencies among the xorg ports. mcl From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:15:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7F416A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCB313C458 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so162657and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=kcefBX/M5FyBBVbHUjFNuE/u8anOBmcW6dCVe4RCCajfQqHWsw06KBztNHqBE7NRCBiZyIsPdseu9dkaeRiZSuWpPcUV/wos/KwgA0xE/msOmuN+k+WgijYEB+ZfDTf3LlZ3d9a/Ua/CwbjkcCYZ5nT9V1GcEKg8uHyF7oSgPXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=WUP0Ulmj+4gcYI7emfTxH9xCFub7fsKu1DEaLw7wzaZZkS3QyhiaWNNb6Xb7SLOhfTCIbkogHmlY1y6ajRYCu1hQkwHnjJD1fyZWjZ4A34jHodDSClbAQ7qL9kBZtoTzxHar7pEFaDx6Eq9y+d+hQ6CIePR2UMOnLMdr4NOTgJs= Received: by 10.100.199.12 with SMTP id w12mr589891anf.1179432942851; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LettingGo ( [68.183.91.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c16sm3620828anc.2007.05.17.13.15.41; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Albert Wong" To: Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:15:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AceYwBUrs/GGNx5DSfiB3fqEGaSKZQ== Message-ID: <464cb7ee.47aeb6f6.546d.7849@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:15:43 -0000 Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem as well... [referring to the posts from earlier this month with the same subject]... I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every day or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays there indefinitely.... locking down the system [until I do an "apachectl restart"] after which the server load drops back down. I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following error, usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins: httpd in free(): error: recursive call httpd in free(): error: recursive call [Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and MySQL 4.1. I am trying to use the libthr threading mechanism through the libmap.conf setting, as to earlier in this thread post, as a possible fix. [Though, I don't know if I have in fact been successful in switching to libthr or not... because I'm not sure if I need to recompile / reboot? I don't know if mysql was install from a port or not.] In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in /etc/libmap.conf]: [mysqld] libc_r.so libthr.so libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 libpthread.so libthr.so libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 and I also added ... WITH_LIBMAP= yes to my make.conf file. Is there something else I need to do [e.g., recompile? / reboot?] in order to activate libthr? The problem remains even with these adjustments. Blessings, Albert Wong www.ithou.org PS. The mysql_logfile is completely empty... I don't know if that is unusual or not. PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine: [mysqld] safe-show-database skip-innodb max_connections = 500 key_buffer = 32M myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M join_buffer_size = 1M read_buffer_size = 1M sort_buffer_size = 2M table_cache = 1800 thread_cache_size = 384 wait_timeout = 90 connect_timeout = 10 tmp_table_size = 64M max_heap_table_size = 64M max_allowed_packet = 16M max_connect_errors = 10 read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M query_cache_limit = 3M query_cache_size = 80M query_cache_type = 1 query_prealloc_size = 163840 query_alloc_block_size = 32768 skip-name-resolve [mysqld_safe] open_files_limit = 8192 [mysqldump] quick max_allowed_packet = 16M [myisamchk] key_buffer = 16M sort_buffer = 16M read_buffer = 16M write_buffer = 16M [mysqlhotcopy] interactive-timeout log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:23:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331DA16A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E412713C459 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so163329and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=q9vlyr0NSsea1mx8lYy/iObj08XRQuLU5MNDTtVS7t7d/ndfl8XahoTjoyNkdpxDpzSEaM0dSEFiquHPpsI8W9KSOs9qv4sb7mMHCQytASFVCBDrxm+UowPKFj7XzxJGuYTsXNcKBNyolLRcnzJofox+Ml9OEolu+mhXQU+qXuc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole:message-id; b=gSvthbjQvkWF8IuiBX781MkXjJMAe5wcHOEchMBK7tKsu0L2STwNzHui2Mg9c/Aciv9JBs7bCFCHbqrwl+fnMDjY71PXfxneiLqX+/7p7L7iLuEZskCr41Z5ZAcXj7FdrBxVCZBQQ8vmca4mAgeUeSH9pcsnjnZGT69JXU5rnYs= Received: by 10.100.165.9 with SMTP id n9mr620644ane.1179433435759; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LettingGo ( [68.183.91.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c23sm3609343ana.2007.05.17.13.23.54; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Albert Wong" To: "'Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri'" Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:24:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <499c70c0705171316m50253453q23f362c1220299fc@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AceYwEfat3f528N1STqWAbMSD98tIgAALF4g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: <464cb9db.70b6bddf.6746.ffff8128@mx.google.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:23:57 -0000 Yes... this is possible.... Currently, I am on MySQL 4.1.20 ... but I believe that MySQL is backwards compatible... so I can definitely try this. Do you know if this bug is squashed with MySQL 5.0.37 ? Thanks, Albert > -----Original Message----- > From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [mailto:almarrie@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:17 PM > To: Albert Wong > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 > > On 5/17/07, Albert Wong wrote: > > > > > Can you go for MySQL 5.0.37? > > -- > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:32:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E9C16A400 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBFD13C447 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so164037and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:32:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rGO90W9WMNsdTwDSGtNKwhqSXCz5dGIU7LI8rxH+OTV1XDRh7bMRakfvLRv/7tF8KuvFiHwcV9qJvJ2bu9/dasCCkYS6LbSt3RJE5gZQ+y22RrgNVtvOk4+Gp0FwY9dfCR+v8PozZdKUe5HWzBMrNeAIYVOBRENBtbISN6t21uQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CBvROGkO2h/bDAUv2TQDjuXfrxLmdSa2PyJicpBjt5q9f+LcG2c/OwB/Gr/DoXQ5b42TxONF5CdL/5MHhFaafDKA7t4ofQxTXjlSNfgUQl7xTJgtQxG+IVA6Ujo2CpvoaeFMN1hE2h09M6G876ycBm/jKAPaKOOYPgh5UO7r03A= Received: by 10.100.154.13 with SMTP id b13mr623286ane.1179433951421; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.9.14 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499c70c0705171332r64bc7afdj5cd360807db435f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:32:31 +0300 From: "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri" To: "Albert Wong" In-Reply-To: <464cb9db.70b6bddf.6746.ffff8128@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c70c0705171316m50253453q23f362c1220299fc@mail.gmail.com> <464cb9db.70b6bddf.6746.ffff8128@mx.google.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:32:32 -0000 On 5/17/07, Albert Wong wrote: > Yes... this is possible.... Currently, I am on MySQL 4.1.20 ... but I > believe that MySQL is backwards compatible... so I can definitely try this. > > Do you know if this bug is squashed with MySQL 5.0.37 ? > > Thanks, > Albert > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [mailto:almarrie@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:17 PM > > To: Albert Wong > > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 > > > > On 5/17/07, Albert Wong wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can you go for MySQL 5.0.37? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > > Arab Portal > > http://www.WeArab.Net/ I run MySQL 5.0.x since ages with heavily load in UP and SMP boxes with libthr and they never crashed at all. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:34:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548EB16A400 for ; 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file may have grown while being archived. tar: Truncated write; file may have grown while being archived. tar: GZip compression failed $ gzip -dc mybackup.tar.gz > /dev/null gzip: ../mybackup.tar.gz: unexpected end of file gzip: ../mybackup.tar.gz: uncompress failed However, it appears to work fine on: $ tar --version bsdtar 1.2.53 - libarchive 1.2.53 Regards, Jeff Davis From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 20:43:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB0516A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F82213C484 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 20:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so164924and for ; 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <464ca981.68894365.5671.6d22@mx.google.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 20:43:57 -0000 On 5/17/07, Albert Wong wrote: > Can you go for MySQL 5.0.37? -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 21:08:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2755F16A40A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 21:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djv@iki.fi) Received: from gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D8F13C45B for ; 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(VPS 000741-0, 05/17/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:08:59 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > As someone who has had to show many people "how" to use the FreeBSD > installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. > > Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some > of which I have); [...] As someone who only very rarely plays with the installer, I sometimes get bitten by the Space/Enter thing. -- Tuomo ... Great, so now I get to take shit from Finns on both sides of the Atlantic for a guy I didn't elect and whose policies I don't support. -- http://www.axis-of-aevil.net/archives/2004/11/index.html From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 21:30:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F266A16A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 21:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msaad@datapipe.com) Received: from exchfe01.datapipe-corp.net (exchfe01.datapipe-corp.net [64.106.130.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6FF13C459 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 21:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msaad@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.0.9] (192.168.81.31) by exchfe01.datapipe-corp.net (64.106.130.69) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.700.0; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:20:12 -0400 Message-ID: <464CC70B.4090508@datapipe.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:20:11 -0400 From: Mark Saad User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070413) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: msaad@datapipe.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 21:30:21 -0000 Hello In general This is what I use for my libmap.conf , it works fine for me any you may want to give it a try. [mysqld] libpthread.so libthr.so libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 Note nothing in MySQL 4.1 compiled on FreeBSD 6.2 should use libc_r.so . The other thing in your libmap that looks odd is the line "libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2" not sure what that will do. > > In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in /etc/libmap.conf]: > > > [mysqld] > libc_r.so libthr.so > libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2 > libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 > libpthread.so libthr.so > libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 One thing I normally turn off in MySQL is the query_cache . If your DB is constantly receiving updates the query_cache is flushed to with each update. This creates alot of useless overhead, in fact if set it very high like to 1G or so you will see some nasty side effects of how MySQL tries to flush the cache. As for you log you may want to move that in to the "[mysqld]" section of the config. In this setup I beleive that mysqlhotcopy would be the only mysql* command using that directive. table_cache should not be greater the amount of tables your databases have . read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 looks way to high your key_buffer_size is only 32M Maybe you want to lower this to 64M of even leave it undefined to see what the default does for you. > PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine: > > [mysqld] > safe-show-database > skip-innodb > max_connections = 500 > key_buffer = 32M > myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M > join_buffer_size = 1M > read_buffer_size = 1M > sort_buffer_size = 2M > table_cache = 1800 > thread_cache_size = 384 > wait_timeout = 90 > connect_timeout = 10 > tmp_table_size = 64M > max_heap_table_size = 64M > max_allowed_packet = 16M > max_connect_errors = 10 > read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 > bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M > query_cache_limit = 3M > query_cache_size = 80M > query_cache_type = 1 > query_prealloc_size = 163840 > query_alloc_block_size = 32768 > skip-name-resolve > > [mysqld_safe] > open_files_limit = 8192 > > [mysqldump] > quick > max_allowed_packet = 16M > > [myisamchk] > key_buffer = 16M > sort_buffer = 16M > read_buffer = 16M > write_buffer = 16M > > [mysqlhotcopy] > interactive-timeout > > log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile -- Mark Saad From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 22:19:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C2616A400; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koji@registro.br) Received: from clone.registro.br (clone.registro.br [200.160.2.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9920D13C4AE; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koji@registro.br) Received: by clone.registro.br (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2B8FA95879; Thu, 17 May 2007 18:50:25 -0300 (BRT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:50:25 -0300 From: Hugo Koji Kobayashi To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070517215025.GC37175@registro.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Registro.br X-URL: http://registro.br/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD Cc: Subject: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:19:40 -0000 --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, While making some tests with fragmented udp DNS responses (with EDNS0), we discovered a possible problem with ipf and pf in FreeBSD 6.2 and 7.0 (200705 snapshot). Our test is a DNS query to an DNSSEC enabled server which replies with a ~4KB udp response. We do this with the following dig command: dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ipf and pf in FreeBSD 6.2 or 7.0 block the fragments and the DNS queries timeout. Disabling the firewall, complete replies are received with no problem. We've made the same tests with FreeBSD 4.11 with ipf and OpenBSD 4.1 with pf with no problems. You can see a summary of the tests below. OS + fw dig result fbsd4.11 + ipf OK obsd4.1 + pf OK fbsd6.2 OK fbsd6.2 + ipf timeout fbsd6.2 + pf timeout fbsd7.0 OK fbsd7.0 + ipf timeout fbsd7.0 + pf timeout Complete test results (including tcpdump output and firewall rule sets) are attached. Can somebody tell us if he hit a bug or if there is something we are missing? Thanks, Hugo --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fw-edns0-tests.txt" ###### FreeBSD 4.11 + ipfilter -> dig OK fbsd4.11# uname -v FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 21 17:21:22 GMT 2005 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC fbsd4.11# ipf -V ipf: IP Filter: v3.4.35 (336) Kernel: IP Filter: v3.4.35 Running: yes Log Flags: 0 = none set Default: pass all, Logging: available Active list: 0 fbsd4.11# ipfstat -ion @1 pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 53 keep state keep frags @2 pass out quick on bge0 proto tcp/udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any keep state @3 pass out quick on bge0 proto icmp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any keep state @4 pass out quick on lo0 from any to any @5 block out log from any to any @1 pass in quick on bge0 proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx.81/32 to xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 port = 22 keep state @2 pass in quick on lo0 from any to any @3 block in log from any to any fbsd4.11# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107 tcpdump: listening on bge0 09:46:16.546878 xxx.xxx.xxx.113.2897 > 192.36.144.107.53: 37118+ [1au] Type48? se. (31) 09:46:16.789319 192.36.144.107.53 > xxx.xxx.xxx.113.2897: 37118*- 8/10/24 Type48[|domain] (frag 8851:1480@0+) 09:46:16.789325 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.113: udp (frag 8851:1480@1480+) 09:46:16.789331 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.113: udp (frag 8851:1134@2960) fbsd4.11# grep 192.36.144.107 /var/log/messages May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.546867 bge0 @0:1 p xxx.xxx.xxx.113,2897 -> 192.36.144.107,53 PR udp len 20 59 K-S K-F OUT May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.789339 bge0 @0:1 p 192.36.144.107,53 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.113,2897 PR udp len 20 1500 K-S K-F IN May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.789347 bge0 @-1:-1 p 192.36.144.107 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.113 PR udp len 20 (1500) (frag 8851:1480@1480+) K-S K-F IN May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.789353 bge0 @-1:-1 p 192.36.144.107 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.113 PR udp len 20 (1154) (frag 8851:1134@2960) K-S K-F IN fbsd4.11# /usr/local/bin/dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.4.1 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37118 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: [...] ;; Query time: 245 msec ;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107) ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 09:46:16 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 4086 ###### FreeBSD 6.2 + no firewall -> dig OK fbsd6.2# uname -v FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP fbsd6.2# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7745 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;se. IN DNSKEY [...] ;; Query time: 243 msec ;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107) ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:31:39 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 4086 ###### FreeBSD 6.2 + pf -> dig timeout fbsd6.2# uname -v FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP fbsd6.2# pfctl -sr No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled scrub in all fragment reassemble block drop in log all pass in on bge0 inet proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx.81 to xxx.xxx.xxx.87 port = ssh keep state pass out on bge0 proto tcp all keep state pass out on bge0 proto udp all keep state pass out on bge0 proto icmp all keep state fbsd6.2# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 11:06:34.589076 IP xxx.xxx.xxx.87.58606 > 192.36.144.107.53: 24422+ [1au] Type48? se. (31) 11:06:34.831367 IP 192.36.144.107.53 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87.58606: 24422*- 8/10/24 Type48[|domain] 11:06:34.831372 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87: udp 11:06:34.831524 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87: udp fbsd6.2# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ###### FreeBSD 6.2 + ipfilter -> dig timeout fbsd6.2# uname -v FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP fbsd6.2# ipf -V ipf: IP Filter: v4.1.13 (416) Kernel: IP Filter: v4.1.13 Running: yes Log Flags: 0 = none set Default: pass all, Logging: available Active list: 0 Feature mask: 0x10f fbsd6.2# ipfstat -ion @1 pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.87/32 to any port = domain keep state keep frags @2 pass out quick on bge0 proto tcp/udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.87/32 to any keep state @3 pass out quick on bge0 proto icmp from xxx.xxx.xxx.87/32 to any keep state @4 pass out quick on lo0 from any to any @5 block out log all @1 pass in quick on bge0 proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx.81/32 to xxx.xxx.xxx.87/32 port = ssh keep state @2 pass in quick on lo0 from any to any @3 block in log all fbsd6.2# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 11:11:39.724241 IP xxx.xxx.xxx.87.63499 > 192.36.144.107.53: 2906+ [1au] Type48? se. (31) 11:11:39.966378 IP 192.36.144.107.53 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87.63499: 2906*- 8/10/24 Type48[|domain] 11:11:39.966534 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87: udp 11:11:39.966692 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87: udp fbsd6.2# grep 192.36.144.107 /var/log/messages May 17 11:11:40 fbsd6.2 ipmon[1140]: 11:11:39.724232 bge0 @0:1 p xxx.xxx.xxx.87,63499 -> 192.36.144.107,53 PR udp len 20 59 K-S K-F OUT May 17 11:11:40 fbsd6.2 ipmon[1140]: 11:11:39.966389 bge0 @0:3 b 192.36.144.107,53 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.87,63499 PR udp len 20 1500 IN bad May 17 11:11:40 fbsd6.2 ipmon[1140]: 11:11:39.966544 bge0 @0:3 b 192.36.144.107 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.87 PR udp len 20 (1500) (frag 20089:1480@1480+) IN bad May 17 11:11:40 fbsd6.2 ipmon[1140]: 11:11:39.966699 bge0 @0:3 b 192.36.144.107 -> xxx.xxx.xxx.87 PR udp len 20 (1154) (frag 20089:1134@2960) IN bad fbsd6.2# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.3 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ###### FreeBSD 7.0 + no firewall -> dig OK fbsd7# uname -v FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT-200705 #0: Mon May 7 11:24:25 UTC 2007 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC fbsd7# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11647 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;se. IN DNSKEY [...] ;; Query time: 243 msec ;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107) ;; WHEN: Mon May 7 12:29:14 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 4086 ###### FreeBSD 7.0 + pf -> dig timeout fbsd7# uname -v FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT-200705 #0: Mon May 7 11:24:25 UTC 2007 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC fbsd7# pfctl -sr No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled scrub in all fragment reassemble block drop in log all pass in on bge0 inet proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx..81 to xxx.xxx.xxx..113 port = ssh keep state pass out on bge0 proto tcp all keep state pass out on bge0 proto udp all keep state pass out on bge0 proto icmp all keep state fbsd7# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 12:39:25.631167 IP xxx.xxx.xxx..113.52250 > 192.36.144.107.53: 25549+ [1au] Type48? se. (31) 12:39:25.873610 IP 192.36.144.107.53 > xxx.xxx.xxx..113.52250: 25549*- 8/10/24 Type48[|domain] 12:39:25.873624 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx..113: udp 12:39:25.873632 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx..113: udp fbsd7# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ###### FreeBSD 7.0 + ipfilter -> dig timeout fbsd7# uname -v FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT-200705 #0: Mon May 7 11:24:25 UTC 2007 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC fbsd7# ipf -V ipf: IP Filter: v4.1.13 (404) Kernel: IP Filter: v4.1.13 Running: yes Log Flags: 0 = none set Default: pass all, Logging: available Active list: 0 Feature mask: 0x10f fbsd7# ipfstat -ion @1 pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx..113/32 to any port = domain keep state keep frags @2 pass out quick on bge0 proto tcp/udp from xxx.xxx.xxx..113/32 to any keep state @3 pass out quick on bge0 proto icmp from xxx.xxx.xxx..113/32 to any keep state @4 pass out quick on lo0 from any to any @5 block out log from any to any @1 pass in quick on bge0 proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx..81/32 to xxx.xxx.xxx..113/32 port = ssh keep state @2 pass in quick on lo0 from any to any @3 block in log from any to any fbsd7# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 12:26:47.020355 IP xxx.xxx.xxx..113.61181 > 192.36.144.107.53: 31400+ [1au] Type48? se. (31) 12:26:47.263165 IP 192.36.144.107.53 > xxx.xxx.xxx..113.61181: 31400*- 8/10/24 Type48[|domain] 12:26:47.263189 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx..113: udp 12:26:47.263210 IP 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx..113: udp fbsd7# grep 192.36.144.107 /var/log/messages May 7 12:26:47 fbsd7 ipmon[756]: 12:26:47.020339 bge0 @0:1 p xxx.xxx.xxx..113,61181 -> 192.36.144.107,53 PR udp len 20 59 K-S K-F OUT May 7 12:26:47 fbsd7 ipmon[756]: 12:26:47.263177 bge0 @0:3 b 192.36.144.107,53 -> xxx.xxx.xxx..113,61181 PR udp len 20 1500 IN bad May 7 12:26:47 fbsd7 ipmon[756]: 12:26:47.263199 bge0 @0:3 b 192.36.144.107 -> xxx.xxx.xxx..113 PR udp len 20 (1500) (frag 30879:1480@1480+) IN bad May 7 12:26:47 fbsd7 ipmon[756]: 12:26:47.263218 bge0 @0:3 b 192.36.144.107 -> xxx.xxx.xxx..113 PR udp len 20 (1154) (frag 30879:1134@2960) IN bad fbsd7# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ###### OpenBSD 4.1 + pf -> dig OK obsd4.1# uname -svmr OpenBSD 4.1 GENERIC#1435 i386 obsd4.1# pfctl -sr scrub in all fragment reassemble block drop in log all pass in log on bge0 inet proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx..81 to xxx.xxx.xxx.87 port = ssh flags S/SA keep state pass out on bge0 proto tcp all flags S/SA keep state pass out on bge0 proto udp all keep state pass out on bge0 proto icmp all keep state obsd4.1# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107 tcpdump: listening on bge0, link-type EN10MB 17:29:31.204819 xxx.xxx.xxx.87.14024 > 192.36.144.107.53: 45447+ [1au] DNSKEY? se. (31) 17:29:31.446947 192.36.144.107.53 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87.14024: 45447*- 8/10/24 DNSKEY[|domain] (frag 1171:1480@0+) 17:29:31.447104 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87: (frag 1171:1480@1480+) 17:29:31.447107 192.36.144.107 > xxx.xxx.xxx.87: (frag 1171:1134@2960) obsd4.1# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45447 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;se. IN DNSKEY [...] ;; Query time: 244 msec ;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107) ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 17:29:31 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 4086 ##### Expected result. (Answers above are truncated in favor of readability) # dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0 ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50574 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;se. 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IcFNk7a7/pw8kha9LQGqDJG0wBXeGk4AuHMNwWUqJtkfKDFm/M6xACgW 8bubKgHs7K0HEqhLrrWTYRueUVh/w+Fy9BvOXQwX4h+SMxWTeTtmPxug ZESOOqf0C0Zs+Oa8UJvlHGwhsg3rt0qAUDGZQiQGwY3lpYCxCFY/5sM3 XSo= g.ns.se. 172800 IN RRSIG A 5 3 172800 20070524113105 20070517200614 23025 se. xras7HnqqbohuAM85kzwV8WzGCqXhF2ZWI4y1omWz7SQ1sXKiAMiM1zU mv6xk4F4NVuOakDaPc/b03TEQAhnVDZzRrzmo0ZdfYzP3kxI1NTkYUmC O2Qyv+7FqnRCrLzK94TeTArbKHXBYE+36K5b8htckG/LeBjRZTHIso7X LBk= g.ns.se. 172800 IN RRSIG AAAA 5 3 172800 20070523151643 20070517200614 23025 se. miTXV/aUVUsvuFPIvsmuRoJ0HYiCnMpjkRJl+cpGZ+Te0bnhmikJVAx2 nuMqcjuJvZPiShTWr68wrFN0TnCfUltsdNWIawSKuisszzHj3fHFUFfw ZBbmSr/0zWU8NF8M5IU2PJ8tL2Kohk6W3/ZORjQaAaMoiuOb+VFulgPP Nn8= h.ns.se. 172800 IN RRSIG A 5 3 172800 20070523091232 20070517200614 23025 se. ifwY6aYVRtO+zqHO3aYEWP3tiFT3hig9wkPmbCu+k2nYOE9pxjka+zSh vMU/4qpzlT2Z/aDNmBq/wSzXYEzvUjXi06KtHsS1NVEwSamE6l0NU0Bq TblxJQ0u/zPLOmES8Sj25a4qPGRG5T+SEzLJg65BRFjVrlXBgUuebv3L CjQ= ;; Query time: 245 msec ;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107) ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 18:37:24 2007 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 4086 --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 23:48:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3D216A401 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [204.152.184.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2429313C448 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ABB11401F; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BCAE6058; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4HNlux8089701; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:47:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200705172347.l4HNlux8089701@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Hugo Koji Kobayashi From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 May 2007 18:50:25 -0300." <20070517215025.GC37175@registro.br> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:47:56 +1000 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:48:04 -0000 This should be rejected as "keep frags" is meaningless here. pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 53 keep state keep frags You need pass in quick from any to any with frag keep frag -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 23:51:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565A916A403 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from mx.isc.org (mx.isc.org [204.152.184.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE8C13C489 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from farside.isc.org (farside.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:bb::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "farside.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180C2114083; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark_Andrews@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost.isc.org [IPv6:::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "drugs.dv.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by farside.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977ADE6095; Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l4HNowGe089722; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:50:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200705172350.l4HNowGe089722@drugs.dv.isc.org> From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 May 2007 09:47:56 +1000." Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:50:58 +1000 Sender: Mark_Andrews@isc.org Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Hugo Koji Kobayashi , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:01 -0000 > > This should be rejected as "keep frags" is meaningless here. > > pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 53 > keep state keep frags > > You need > > pass in quick from any to any with frag keep frag The reason is that "ip" fragments not have next level headers. > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 00:22:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F22016A402 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0931413C447 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so179022and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:22:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ZBk2oLhTzLaJvlYvuoaQ9dfxvG9AFQA49/+Try0kPiKrCIkBFfklXh0U+QXZ9ve+C/G+dqSwkK1dRxSZ6JBJ2cJV23NrXTB0x8UA+abatEHNzE+3889ANr0HmwLxNkPBr4T6Jx+xfzF5012ALv0+WX1XKpXuBZwZ4IwQZOpAPmg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rJl30NFFST6dYtFzp2lnPUNnxPWYi39E85DCr+Pjmo6o5xujzPZuX50v0mNHTd1fUMNvEKUALIVC4Z7ZGNZAXpnEwF1dDZAQnza0eYgzSHl82NMXV3X+DiFubDhRAFV1CBh2jm4wkkXiQ6VzEbw2K/OI4tuCrvoFrx3Y69nzAws= Received: by 10.100.59.20 with SMTP id h20mr731407ana.1179446224730; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.167.17 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1dbad3150705171657v648068f9t1478970c1e6d055@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 01:57:04 +0200 From: "Michael Schuh" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Albert Wong" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:22:03 -0000 Hello Albert, Hello @list, first, i be a native german speaker, so please excuse my ugly english. Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem a= s > well... > > I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every > day > or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays ther= e > indefinitely.... locking down the system [until I do an "apachectl > restart"] > after which the server load drops back down. > > I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a > lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following > error, > usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins: > > httpd in free(): error: recursive call > httpd in free(): error: recursive call > > [Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] > ----------8<---snip---8<----------- I have experiences with an similar Problem with apache in combination with php4 and it's modules. If you have the wrong modules / order of module= s in the extensions.ini so that apache disappears with segfault ( my be signal 6 or 11 ) if you try an reload. hope this helps a little bit. greetings michael --=20 =3D=3D=3D michael-schuh.net =3D=3D=3D Michael Schuh Preu=DFenstr. 13 66111 Saarbr=FCcken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: michael.schuh@gmail.com =3D=3D=3D Ust-ID: DE251072318 =3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 00:24:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8EC16A403 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F9513C455 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so179153and for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:message-id; b=lh0ZtCnTH+NIwuNRX+rJuvnKz+zUFTnhHfCEuVZgQKHbp+uY2AtQR3SglaMv/3N7jCd+J3Ghlb0ehGjxv1COU80U2FtE1c7IhUk5VzilNy3B7MBWeyRYHJBlvz8fN2q0pT+PZZ30Uuvkb+I8mX8LEiibhwyBHXtUMwBRS3/ItPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:message-id; b=g5BpS7vEYlZyCMqXl5zfIX4dp0c1snDDROvZsWiZzBZBlhfEL39nZ0UyG+Z3BdeVGHCdah4yqLb4OLmYB/u0nTa8Pr+zKjBGs/BAfIScL82zZUWQqLtpIemNlSh2fNswOZ/GZLv2waG9BbjRQMIV2zYy29UKMRB9SEpI6F/qaD8= Received: by 10.100.125.5 with SMTP id x5mr724183anc.1179447889696; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LettingGo ( [68.183.91.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b29sm5319818ana.2007.05.17.17.24.48; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Albert Wong" To: , Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 thread-index: AceYytInJ9hvlGq9Tliky6R2CXHqOwAFzBwg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-reply-to: <464CC70B.4090508@datapipe.com> Message-ID: <464cf251.017c7baf.440b.5f70@mx.google.com> Cc: Subject: RE: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:24:51 -0000 Mark: Thanks for the tips about the placement of the log into [mysqld] -- maybe it will start to show some error messages if I put it up into the mysqld section. :-) I will also take a look at table_cache and query_cache and read_rnd_buffer_size. [I've got some reading / figuring out to do!] Michael: And thanks also for the suggestion at looking into extensions.ini for the order of the modules. I'm not quite sure what do to there, but I'll definitely research this. Blessings, Albert > > One thing I normally turn off in MySQL is the query_cache . If your DB > is constantly receiving updates the query_cache is flushed to with each > update. This creates alot of useless overhead, in fact if set it very > high like to 1G or so you will see some nasty side effects of how MySQL > tries to flush the cache. > > As for you log you may want to move that in to the "[mysqld]" section of > the config. In this setup I beleive that mysqlhotcopy would be the only > mysql* command using that directive. > > table_cache should not be greater the amount of tables your databases > have . > > read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 looks way to high your key_buffer_size is > only 32M Maybe you want to lower this to 64M of even leave it undefined > to see what the default does for you. > > > > PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine: > > > > [mysqld] > > safe-show-database > > skip-innodb > > max_connections = 500 > > key_buffer = 32M > > myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M > > join_buffer_size = 1M > > read_buffer_size = 1M > > sort_buffer_size = 2M > > table_cache = 1800 > > thread_cache_size = 384 > > wait_timeout = 90 > > connect_timeout = 10 > > tmp_table_size = 64M > > max_heap_table_size = 64M > > max_allowed_packet = 16M > > max_connect_errors = 10 > > read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 > > bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M > > query_cache_limit = 3M > > query_cache_size = 80M > > query_cache_type = 1 > > query_prealloc_size = 163840 > > query_alloc_block_size = 32768 > > skip-name-resolve > > > > [mysqld_safe] > > open_files_limit = 8192 > > > > [mysqldump] > > quick > > max_allowed_packet = 16M > > > > [myisamchk] > > key_buffer = 16M > > sort_buffer = 16M > > read_buffer = 16M > > write_buffer = 16M > > > > [mysqlhotcopy] > > interactive-timeout > > > > log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile > > > > > > > -- > Mark Saad > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 03:07:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B146416A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7CD13C459 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 03:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HosoH-0003du-Ak for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 05:07:17 +0200 Received: from 24.114.252.226 ([24.114.252.226]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 05:07:17 +0200 Received: from ivoras by 24.114.252.226 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 05:07:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:07:07 +0000 Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.114.252.226 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070424) In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 03:07:24 -0000 Chris wrote: > and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers > running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a > result of this? This looks like another call to have RELENG_x branches on ports, with which I agree. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 04:04:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAC116A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ED213C44B for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 04:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB134EB9FBC; Fri, 18 May 2007 12:04:40 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([210.51.165.229]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [210.51.165.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4Wvk2LkIWI9; Fri, 18 May 2007 12:04:38 +0800 (CST) Received: from LI-Xins-MacBook.local (sina152-194.staff.sina.com.cn [61.135.152.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76D9EB098F; Fri, 18 May 2007 12:04:36 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc: subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=YkVqzJwmW66kKoV2B1/amK4xQdMnlBnOdEpSL0tvOOWb5uN3FIHFV79ATEs99bajG hOxtzNZ+nW5haDGsjtWsw== Message-ID: <464D25D0.8010003@delphij.net> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:04:32 +0800 From: LI Xin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig127BBA2E5F2CAB73F6AF4D3F" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 04:04:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig127BBA2E5F2CAB73F6AF4D3F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ivan Voras wrote: > Chris wrote: >=20 >> and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers >> running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a >> result of this? >=20 > This looks like another call to have RELENG_x branches on ports, with > which I agree. Hmm... Branching is not about "to do it, or not to do it", but about "who will invest their time to do it". By making it as an official offer we have to make sure that: - "STABLE" branch is well maintained. What's the rule of "MFC" in these branches? For src/ the answer is clear, but for ports/ I do not think it's obvious. What's the standard choosing particular ports' version? Who will be responsible for that? - packages are continuously built and mirrored. This could cause confusion about "should I use -HEAD ports/, or RELENG_X ports/?" Not to mention that it needs a doubled computation resource for package cluster. So, while I agree that having branches is a very nice idea I feel that it is not quite exercisable at the moment. It's easy for committers to do "make universe" to verify that their work does not break build, but it's not that easy for porters to make sure that a commit does not break the -STABLE branch... Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! --------------enig127BBA2E5F2CAB73F6AF4D3F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGTSXQOfuToMruuMARCiI6AKCFpVnlhLcDy8LB7/pmFBFsOa3j3wCfRJNv PIh4k+LX32PvAromyn+KIfs= =M5yl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig127BBA2E5F2CAB73F6AF4D3F-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 05:51:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE04616A403 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 05:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@samplonius.org) Received: from ly.sdf.com (ly.sdf.com [216.113.193.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A793F13C458 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 05:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@samplonius.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ly.sdf.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CD2228390; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -3.926 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.926 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.473, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from ly.sdf.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ly.sdf.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dEEzIGhfHsNc; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ly.sdf.com (ly.sdf.com [216.113.193.83]) by ly.sdf.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2AA22838F; Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:52:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Albert Wong Message-ID: <18772539.2131179467539180.JavaMail.root@ly.sdf.com> In-Reply-To: <464cb7ee.47aeb6f6.546d.7849@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [216.113.193.85] Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 05:51:18 -0000 ----- "Albert Wong" wrote: > key_buffer = 32M key_buffer has the most influence over the performance of MyISAM database. You should increase it as much as possible. On a dedicated 2GB server, 1GB is good. But it only helps, if you actually have indexes. There is no point is increasing it bigger than the size of your indexes (*.MYI files). But if you can hold all of the indexes in RAM, everything gets really, really fast. BTW, I agree with the other comments about the MySQL query cache. It is more of a work around for two problems: * A poorly indexed database, so that queries that return small results don't use an index, so caching the results is required. * Dumb applications that send the same query over and over again, even though the database has not changed. Some e-mail servers do this. A query cache should be small (5MB or less), if you use it at all. And you should never cache large results (there is an option that sets the size threshold). But I use MySQL 5.0 on several FreeBSD 6 systems, and they are moderately busy (250 q/s & 450 q/s), and it works ok. MyISAM is the problem, and I need to switch to InnoDB. Tom From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 07:49:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0E216A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B723A13C448 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so410425ugh for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:49:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GMPm+A92AlFIxRGE4c4RYT2aITA979Nr0WqaNpq4LEIrnvqkS++Q7c9Wye4MXChhrOcn6fLOjJFnfojDgL2H/8D2K7HcH/dmfh1ebYxzbOM6hvot0eH9XXGDRyVCRMvNDsD+MxoWxNnZ6PLQInGTc6sCsllmuJGRjPZ6IIxR9Ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=phW282Ooe+wsKHALVESv9RGKa0x2eV8efYOgBOJhQe9LVMwqYu3SsW+JSnFiP3qDDEtTlLi9L5jfhUQBNJdjae/AOhjgJh00pjPn1UJ0S3bWbrIKVUvOf07QxZ3BY01iwzJqQfMtWkCiyx47pyCBGsR2kAkvyyVumwaJvcJ8lfI= Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr2225354buc.1179474597187; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.171.9 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 00:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0705180049l2a427dbdx2baa43204d250f04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:49:52 +0200 From: "Christian Walther" To: "KAYVEN RIESE" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list Subject: Re: make mplayer failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:49:59 -0000 On 17/05/07, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > here is my error message > > onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0 atk >= 1.9.0 > pa > ngo >= 1.12.0 cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met: > > No package 'atk' found > Requested 'cairo >= 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2 > [...] atk is in /usr/ports/accessibility. Are you using a ports-supfile with accessibility removed? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 07:52:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE6416A403 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DCB13C458 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 07:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15581B10ED2; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hater.cmotd.com (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3A61B10EBB; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464D5B51.5050801@sun-fish.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:52:49 +0300 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KAYVEN RIESE References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200705171446.33965.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:52:51 -0000 KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 May 2007, John Nielsen wrote: > >> On Thursday 17 May 2007 02:37:15 pm KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >>> On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>> Please don't top-post. >>>> >>>> KAYVEN RIESE writes: >>>>> so the "-r" option will be the significant difference for the >>>>> portupgrade comamnd, just verifying >>>> >>>> Yes. Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on >>>> pango being unable to use the new version. >>>> >>>> Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any >>>> other issues you need to take special action for at the same time. >>> >>> this guy seems to disagree >>> >>> jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and >>> reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages >>> from xfce. >>> >>> If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed >>> either. >> >> Portupgrade with the -r option is very useful, and you will probably >> want to >> use it. My point was that _before_ you try that you should figure out >> why >> portupgrade is failing to upgrade pango, and/or upgrade it manually. >> Otherwise it will just keep failing. >> >> JN >> > > i guess i can see how u guys r on the same page then. he says -r won't > help, u say it's nice. makes sense I have the feeling that you didn't post the exact error message that you get? So with or without -r is only guessing. It will be very useful to know what failed - portupgrade ot just build and the error messages of course. And if you posted the error, but nobody can see it, this is because you break the thread with subject "NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server" and I personally am little lost in your mails ;) There are simple rules if you want everybody to understand you: new problem - new thread, do not top post ;) and of course the most important - explain you problem better - not just "XX does not work, problem?". Explain what you did and how the OS respond, what version you use and etc. After you provide this information we'll gladly help you (if we can) :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 09:04:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F030216A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7188313C455 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate1.punkt.de with ESMTP id l4I94aqJ013976 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:04:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l4I94ZZT018416 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:04:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id l4I94ZTN018415 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:04:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:04:35 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) Subject: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:04:38 -0000 Hi, all! I have a Tyan barebone on my desk that is based on the ServerWorks HT1000 chipset. It features 4 SATA connectors and 4 hot plug drive bays. I installed FreeBSD on the system with the BIOS settings as set by the manufacturer. This includes setting the "SATA mode" to "P-ATA emulation". The devices are probed by FreeBSD like this: server# dmesg | grep ata atapci0: port 0xc080-0xc087,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb80f mem 0xff3fe000-0xff3fffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci1 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f irq 11 at device 14.1 on pci1 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 2.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci2 ata1: on atapci2 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable ad4: 157066MB at ata2-master UDMA33 ad6: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable ad6: 157066MB at ata3-master UDMA33 ad8: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable ad8: 157066MB at ata4-master UDMA33 ad10: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable ad10: 157066MB at ata5-master UDMA33 Everything's working fine, besides the messages about DMA limited to UDMA33. I figure, they can safely be ignored? I set up a GEOM mirror on my boot disk, again, everythings working as expected: server# cat /boot/loader.conf geom_mirror_load="YES" server# gmirror list Geom name: gm0s1 State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 2 SyncID: 1 ID: 2124128128 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1 Mediasize: 164694458368 (153G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r4w4e4 Consumers: 1. Name: ad4s1 Mediasize: 164694458880 (153G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 2 SyncID: 1 ID: 1671205054 2. Name: ad6s1 Mediasize: 164694458880 (153G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 2 SyncID: 1 ID: 1645626982 Now for the part that I do not understand ;-) Out of curiosity I changed the BIOS setup setting for the SATA controller to "native SATA". When booting, the controller and all disks are probed OK. The output shows "SATA150" for the devices. Yet, the root filesystem on /dev/mirror/gm0s1 cannot be found. Hitting "?" at the prompt that asks for manual root dev specification, I get "ad4, ad4s1, ad4s1a ... ad6, ad6s1, ad6s1a ...". I can even boot ad4s1 to single user mode, so all data on the disk can be read just like when in "P-ATA emulation" mode. Why does gmirror fail to load? An answer to this question could prove critical in the future if one of theses servers fails an I need to put the disks in a different chassis/mainboard combination. I used to think that in LBA mode all disks and disk access methods were created equal. Thanks in advance, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH * Vorholzstr. 25 * 76137 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 info@punkt.de http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 11:11:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C37316A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from frontmail.ipactive.de (frontmail.maindns.de [85.214.95.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBF813C468 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from mail.vtec.ipme.de (Q7d12.q.ppp-pool.de [89.53.125.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by frontmail.ipactive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47FD128829 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 13:11:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cesar.sz.vwsoft.com (cesar.sz.vwsoft.com [192.168.16.3]) by mail.vtec.ipme.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1043F3FA01 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 13:10:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464D89AD.2090704@vwsoft.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:10:37 +0200 From: Volker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VWSoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com X-ipactive-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ipactive-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ipactive-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com Subject: kernel trap 12 while reloading pf + altq X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:11:13 -0000 Hi! I'm wondering if any of the hackers is able to take a look at this panic? The following panic occurred while trying to reload pf rules. The reload was needed as `pfctl -sq' gave me something like 'bad file descriptor'. I haven't seen these panics for a while now but months ago I've had a lot of trouble using altq + netgraph/mpd and the system panic'ed every time reloading rules (with queuing). Probably this is also netgraph related again. Also I'm wondering why kgdb doesn't give me the panic message on startup (it's taken from dmesg, the backtrace is taken from kgdb as it also contains source code line numbers). Machine is 6-STABLE, csup'ed and compiled 20 days ago. Thx! Volker Following: panic message, backtrace, uname, dmesg kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x100 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc05ae2ec stack pointer = 0x28:0xdac91920 frame pointer = 0x28:0xdac91934 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 6033 (pfctl) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 0 (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165 #1 0xc05b9af1 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #2 0xc05b9f13 in panic (fmt=0xc07f0c85 "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:565 #3 0xc07aec9e in trap_fatal (frame=0xdac918e0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:837 #4 0xc07ae1f4 in trap (frame= {tf_fs = 8, tf_es = 40, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi = -998496384, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -624355020, tf_isp = -624355060, tf_ebx = -1018739444, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 2, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1067785492, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 65606, tf_esp = -1018739444, tf_ss = -624355004}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:270 #5 0xc07951fa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:139 #6 0xc05ae2ec in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc347450c, tid=3296470912, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:546 #7 0xc0472a8e in rmc_delete_class (ifd=0xc4174c04, cl=0xc577aa00) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/altq/altq/altq_rmclass.c:572 #8 0xc046cd70 in cbq_class_destroy (cbqp=0xc4174800, cl=0xc577aa00) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/altq/altq/altq_cbq.c:116 #9 0xc046ce6f in cbq_clear_interface (cbqp=0xc4174800) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/altq/altq/altq_cbq.c:179 #10 0xc046d165 in cbq_remove_altq (a=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/altq/altq/altq_cbq.c:299 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #11 0xc0474eb4 in altq_remove (a=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/altq/altq/altq_subr.c:642 #12 0xc048ade4 in pf_commit_altq (ticket=1) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/pf_ioctl.c:1123 #13 0xc048eea5 in pfioctl (dev=0xc3482600, cmd=4, addr=0x3
, flags=3, td=0x1) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/pf_ioctl.c:3056 #14 0xc0556727 in devfs_ioctl_f (fp=0xc396f798, com=3222029394, data=0xc3dc40d0, cred=0xc57a8900, td=0xc47c2780) at /usr/src/sys/fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:479 #15 0xc05e7e6b in ioctl (td=0xc47c2780, uap=0xdac91d04) at file.h:265 #16 0xc07af0c0 in syscall (frame= {tf_fs = 59, tf_es = 59, tf_ds = 59, tf_edi = -1077944964, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1077944952, tf_isp = -624353948, tf_ebx = -1077942400, tf_edx = 134737920, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 54, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672821475, tf_cs = 51, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1077944996, tf_ss = 59}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:983 #17 0xc079524f in Xint0x80_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:200 #18 0x00000033 in ?? () uname -a: FreeBSD bellona.sz.vwsoft.com 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #20: Fri Apr 27 16:41:22 CEST 2007 root@bellona.sz.vwsoft.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BELLONA i386 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #20: Fri Apr 27 16:41:22 CEST 2007 root@bellona.sz.vwsoft.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BELLONA ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ (1998.06-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff AMD Features=0xc0400800 real memory = 536805376 (511 MB) avail memory = 515674112 (491 MB) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard wlan: mac acl policy registered kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe3ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) ath0: mem 0xdffe0000-0xdffeffff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 ath0: Ethernet address: 00:09:5b:89:7d:1f ath0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5ghz radio 1.7 2ghz radio 2.3 ifpi0: port 0xd400-0xd41f mem 0xdfffbfe0-0xdfffbfff irq 19 at device 11.0 on pci0 ifpi0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ifpi0: ISAC 2085 Version A1/A2 or 2086/2186 Version 1.1 (IOM-2) ifpi0: passive stack unit 0 ahc0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xdfffa000-0xdfffafff irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci0 ahc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs cbb0: at device 13.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 atapci0: port 0xec00-0xec07,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc0f,0xd800-0xd8ff irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 uhci0: port 0xc000-0xc01f irq 21 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 21 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 21 at device 16.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdfffbd00-0xdfffbdff irq 21 at device 16.4 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered isab0: at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 17.5 (no driver attached) vr0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xdfffbc00-0xdfffbcff irq 23 at device 18.0 on pci0 miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto vr0: Ethernet address: 00:0b:6a:7d:a9:a2 acpi_button1: on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <12 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 aue0: ADMtek USB To LAN Converter, rev 1.10/1.01, addr 2 miibus1: on aue0 acphy0: on miibus1 acphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto aue0: Ethernet address: 00:00:4e:11:16:c6 aue0: if_start running deferred for Giant ucom0: Lucent Technologies, Inc. ELSA Modem Board, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2, iclass 2/2 ucom0: data interface 1, has CM over data, has break ucom0: status change notification available aue1: NETGEAR NETGEAR FA101 Adapter, rev 1.10/1.01, addr 3 miibus2: on aue1 acphy1: on miibus2 acphy1: 100baseFX, 100baseFX-FDX, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto aue1: Ethernet address: 00:09:5b:0a:ad:55 aue1: if_start running deferred for Giant ubt0: vendor 0x0f4d product 0x1000, rev 1.10/4.01, addr 2 ubt0: vendor 0x0f4d product 0x1000, rev 1.10/4.01, addr 2 ubt0: Interface 0 endpoints: interrupt=0x81, bulk-in=0x82, bulk-out=0x3 ubt0: Interface 1 (alt.config 5) endpoints: isoc-in=0x84, isoc-out=0x5; wMaxPacketSize=49; nframes=6, buffer size=294 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1998058984 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec i4brbch: 2 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4btel: 1 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4btrc: 1 ISDN trace device(s) attached Fast IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle acd0: CDRW at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 238475MB at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 238475MB at ata3-master SATA150 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s1 created (id=4094255700). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s1: provider ad4s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s2 created (id=3538945394). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s2: provider ad4s2 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s3 created (id=1220332722). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s3: provider ad4s3 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s1: provider ad6s1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s1: provider ad6s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s1: provider ad4s1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s1: provider mirror/gm1s1 launched. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s2: provider ad6s2 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s2: provider ad6s2 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s2: provider ad4s2 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s2: provider mirror/gm1s2 launched. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s3: provider ad6s3 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s3: provider ad6s3 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s3: provider ad4s3 is stale. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm1s3: provider mirror/gm1s3 launched. acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 12 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 32, 16bit) cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 13:37:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63F116A407; Fri, 18 May 2007 13:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koji@registro.br) Received: from clone.registro.br (clone.registro.br [200.160.2.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9512F13C459; Fri, 18 May 2007 13:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koji@registro.br) Received: by clone.registro.br (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 77F4595873; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:37:45 -0300 (BRT) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:37:45 -0300 From: Hugo Koji Kobayashi To: Mark Andrews Message-ID: <20070518133745.GJ37175@registro.br> References: <200705172350.l4HNowGe089722@drugs.dv.isc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705172350.l4HNowGe089722@drugs.dv.isc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Registro.br X-URL: http://registro.br/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:37:46 -0000 Ok. I understand that, but in FreeBSD 4.11 it works and without the "keep frags" the query is blocked. Is it just a misbehaviour of an old ipf version? And there is also the different behaviour of pf under OpenBSD. As I understand, the "scrub" rule should reassemble the fragments and pass the complete packet on to the filter, making the response arrive to the application. Am I wrong? On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:50:58AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > > This should be rejected as "keep frags" is meaningless here. > > > > pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 53 > > keep state keep frags > > > > You need > > > > pass in quick from any to any with frag keep frag > > The reason is that "ip" fragments not have next level headers. > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 14:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A09316A404 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1A013C44C for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [137.122.39.10] (helo=[172.20.6.219]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1Hp3E22QX1-0006Ed; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:14:38 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:14:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <464D89AD.2090704@vwsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <464D89AD.2090704@vwsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705181614.27182.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/JVssE367Sf6SYuexCPu46PfmnJVoYOVImfZO kpjQEFFyEZMnAEIY2/oVUiUeT9nEsaF+WHXaVdZbVWDDd79N7U +XgW+HL913hnonAoRvMkQ== Cc: Volker Subject: Re: kernel trap 12 while reloading pf + altq X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:14:42 -0000 On Friday 18 May 2007 13:10, Volker wrote: > I'm wondering if any of the hackers is able to take a look at this panic? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/106400 I will try to finally get this into comittable shape one of these days. Can you confirm that it fixes things for you, too? - Max From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 14:57:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611F216A402 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E61713C487 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 18 May 2007 10:57:14 -0400 id 00056414.464DBECA.00011C0D Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 18 May 2007 09:57:13 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: "Patrick M. Hausen" In-Reply-To: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:57:13 -0400 Message-Id: <1179500233.41472.220.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:57:15 -0000 On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 11:04 +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > to UDMA33. I figure, they can safely be ignored? Only if there isn't some massive performance degradation. ports/benchmarks/bonie++ can tell you that. As for the boot loader and your gmirror volumes; it's hard to say. It's possible that there is some "absolute" or "non-relative" data in there related to the device and the bus. Also: Maybe the geometry of the devices changes between modes? Send us the comparable dmesg(8) in both modes? ~BAS -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 15:09:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858FB16A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vistua@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198F713C458 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vistua@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (vistua@norge.freeshell.org [192.94.73.3]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4IF9CfT016890 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:09:12 GMT Received: (from vistua@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.1/8.12.8/Submit) id l4IF9Cli011002 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:09:12 GMT Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:09:12 +0000 From: John Walthall To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070518150912.GA19343@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:09:24 -0000 On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:10:06AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > As someone who has had to show many people "how" to use the FreeBSD > installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. > > Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some > of which I have); [...] And let's not forget the infamous geometry bug! For me, at least sysinstall has always, 100% of the time, incorrectly detected my disc geometry. Sysinstall is adequate, nothing more, nothing less. I don't mean though, to belittle the efforts of the developers; these days people are going to expect it to be polished on the order of YaST, which is ridiculous. Sysinstall is functional. Although irritated, variously, by every one of these issues, I am most concerned about the geometry bug, it looks lackadaisical. It is worth noting however, that of all the BSD's I have tried, FreeBSD has the best installer. NetBSD's installer isn't half bad, but doesn't have the scope of sysinstall, and is much less valuable as a configuration tool. OpenBSD's installer is Spartan; like the rest of OpenBSD, only more-so. I should not like ever to use OpenBSD's nightmarish installer again. If people have trouble with sysinstall-the-configuration-tool, perhaps they might examine sysutils/webmin? -- SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 15:25:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113F716A40F for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9809313C489 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so456880ugh for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:25:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=FvebFniDA7g44OAAG4RQxjTxdP22GBVHli1z2lMIHA1sMJ6DnPaDvZ/3Kzd3QnxWgbqy+FhZC/ua4/RlCWGnS3y817GwplZWetAcNZgeQmOtsG7iVJGJevg/XYovIvmk4bTudSslxP2rMLN++TlktEtoCkPlDbEpl3c3DXW7xXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=Agf5SdEW1mXcAO5l49g3bzwIxlcg0qxC7gfVX8Abx4rQKZbb8/fjgTMg9vEOH5+CcJAf53JIY0+kav039Wwc3NSsmaEnqErKt/gMaWRs2WZfC8SA6y1Av77CSTZO+u+D22+Lk3fQ5P4EOwPJlS9ScfCyvJLFzxxcsO5p3uNk8vE= Received: by 10.82.146.14 with SMTP id t14mr3030486bud.1179501953889; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1%693133673? ( [217.206.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y37sm161216iky.2007.05.18.08.25.44; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: "Brian A. Seklecki" In-Reply-To: <1179500233.41472.220.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> References: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <1179500233.41472.220.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-jf5FTs8lB+z1oq2igpFF" Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:25:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1179501936.1234.3.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:25:56 -0000 --=-jf5FTs8lB+z1oq2igpFF Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:57 -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 11:04 +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > to UDMA33. I figure, they can safely be ignored? >=20 >=20 > Only if there isn't some massive performance degradation. =20 > ports/benchmarks/bonie++ can tell you that. =20 >=20 > As for the boot loader and your gmirror volumes; it's hard to say. It's > possible that there is some "absolute" or "non-relative" data in there > related to the device and the bus. >=20 > Also: Maybe the geometry of the devices changes between modes? >=20 > Send us the comparable dmesg(8) in both modes? >=20 > ~BAS >=20 On my Intel ICH7 based laptop, switching from SATA/PATA emulation to SATA native mode changes the device of my HD from ad0 to ad4.=20 YMMV --=-jf5FTs8lB+z1oq2igpFF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGTcVslcRvFfyds/cRAtkkAKCuDdWbnNtFJ1QLysB+v4zMe2P6GgCfdv+B HN3uFs6pdTpZ0tldwdX9twM= =07CB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jf5FTs8lB+z1oq2igpFF-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 15:34:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849E616A402 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484A513C4B9 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:34:53 -0400 id 00056416.464DC79D.00012315 Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 18 May 2007 10:34:52 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Tom Evans In-Reply-To: <1179501936.1234.3.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> References: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <1179500233.41472.220.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <1179501936.1234.3.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:34:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1179502492.41472.226.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:34:54 -0000 right which I never understood absolute device number. you can choose to do that in obsd/nbsd, but fbsd seems to psuedo magically do it. reminds me Solaris. ~BAS On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:25 +0100, Tom Evans wrote: > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:57 -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 11:04 +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > > to UDMA33. I figure, they can safely be ignored? > > > > > > Only if there isn't some massive performance degradation. > > ports/benchmarks/bonie++ can tell you that. > > > > As for the boot loader and your gmirror volumes; it's hard to say. It's > > possible that there is some "absolute" or "non-relative" data in there > > related to the device and the bus. > > > > Also: Maybe the geometry of the devices changes between modes? > > > > Send us the comparable dmesg(8) in both modes? > > > > ~BAS > > > > On my Intel ICH7 based laptop, switching from SATA/PATA emulation to > SATA native mode changes the device of my HD from ad0 to ad4. > > YMMV -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 15:40:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656EA16A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4785D13C448 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l4IFeKc5044485; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:40:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:40:06 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <1179501936.1234.3.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> <1179502492.41472.226.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <1179502492.41472.226.camel@soundwave.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705181140.06360.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Tom Evans , "Brian A. Seklecki" Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:40:24 -0000 On Friday 18 May 2007 11:34:52 am Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 16:25 +0100, Tom Evans wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:57 -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 11:04 +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > > > to UDMA33. I figure, they can safely be ignored? > > > > > > Only if there isn't some massive performance degradation. > > > ports/benchmarks/bonie++ can tell you that. > > > > > > As for the boot loader and your gmirror volumes; it's hard to say. > > > It's possible that there is some "absolute" or "non-relative" data in > > > there related to the device and the bus. > > > > > > Also: Maybe the geometry of the devices changes between modes? > > > > > > Send us the comparable dmesg(8) in both modes? > > > > > > ~BAS > > > > On my Intel ICH7 based laptop, switching from SATA/PATA emulation to > > SATA native mode changes the device of my HD from ad0 to ad4. > > > > YMMV > > right which I never understood absolute device number. you can choose > to do that in obsd/nbsd, but fbsd seems to psuedo magically do it. > reminds me Solaris. ~BAS If you don't want this behavior then remove "options ATA_STATIC_ID" from your kernel config. JN From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 15:44:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6DE16A402 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3BC13C44C for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4IFXLbr079479 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:33:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l4IFXFhQ079478 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:33:15 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070518153315.GA79307@wjv.com> References: <20070518150932.DE90D16A500@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070518150932.DE90D16A500@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on bilver.wjv.com Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - differnce? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:44:48 -0000 The door open and in walked trouble - disguised as our our old nemesis freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org, who uttered, at Fri, May 18, 2007 at 15:09 : > Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:04:35 +0200 > From: "Patrick M. Hausen" > Subject: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org ... > Hi, all! > I have a Tyan barebone on my desk that is based on the > ServerWorks HT1000 chipset. It features 4 SATA connectors > and 4 hot plug drive bays. > > I installed FreeBSD on the system with the BIOS settings as > set by the manufacturer. This includes setting the "SATA mode" > to "P-ATA emulation". > > The devices are probed by FreeBSD like this: > > server# dmesg | grep ata > atapci0: port 0xc080-0xc087,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb80f mem 0xff3fe000-0xff3fffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci1 > ata2: on atapci0 > ata3: on atapci0 > atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f irq 11 at device 14.1 on pci1 > ata4: on atapci1 > ata5: on atapci1 > atapci2: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 2.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci2 > ata1: on atapci2 > acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 > ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable *********************************************************** That's why you are only getting UDMA33. Change the cable if it's not correct. You might also try changing from P-ATA emulation if that's possible. .... Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 15:51:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA1D16A404 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cryx-freebsd@h3q.com) Received: from mail.h3q.com (mail.h3q.com [217.13.206.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5DB13C45E for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 15:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cryx-freebsd@h3q.com) Received: (qmail 2343 invoked from network); 18 May 2007 15:24:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goa.local) (smtpsend@85.179.28.197) by mail.h3q.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 18 May 2007 15:24:50 -0000 Message-ID: <464DC53E.3020902@h3q.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:24:46 +0200 From: Philipp Wuensche User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Patrick M. Hausen" References: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> In-Reply-To: <20070518090435.GB17241@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - difference? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:51:34 -0000 Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > The devices are probed by FreeBSD like this: > > server# dmesg | grep ata > atapci0: port 0xc080-0xc087,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb80f mem 0xff3fe000-0xff3fffff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci1 > ata2: on atapci0 > ata3: on atapci0 > atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f irq 11 at device 14.1 on pci1 > ata4: on atapci1 > ata5: on atapci1 > atapci2: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 2.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci2 > ata1: on atapci2 > acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 > ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > ad4: 157066MB at ata2-master UDMA33 > ad6: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > ad6: 157066MB at ata3-master UDMA33 > ad8: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > ad8: 157066MB at ata4-master UDMA33 > ad10: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > ad10: 157066MB at ata5-master UDMA33 > > Everything's working fine, besides the messages about DMA limited > to UDMA33. I figure, they can safely be ignored? Yes it can be ignored, it just shows the wrong settings. I think its fixed in STABLE. greetings, philipp From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 16:08:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7176916A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0703313C447 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so462061ugh for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=gC+YT6Wp6x0dLwlNJdlL7vHr/0Lo+VCxoUuaiAoT+/7mv0xZm65X4DcSH1WlYdsahCI2xNsh/yqlmTazpy+tZglR3UCKnyBx5H1bvT78PgMC6b256ZKwE2toEmV+RCe3FV866bjf6Zf2O2w6c9TcxQ8Mm0YP9ihlxbDXlOixq/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=rE5hWijC+hqhieA4wMCa9KCBF/4NqN+8Vbsti6x+a96BXeSDcXS64f2dl6ZtJaAMkhg6utt7+P05EIKKO0o8fHwgaVe8OoDtdpwvoIC+2FvvQaqttIazPRn4t2IyCm2vLKYxwAVuj+p5nhXeVSOxx3nIMzK/Ra+hJ9CAZhxPN5U= Received: by 10.82.145.7 with SMTP id s7mr3142921bud.1179504492096; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1? ( [217.206.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b33sm183145ika.2007.05.18.09.08.05; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:08:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: bv@wjv.com In-Reply-To: <20070518153315.GA79307@wjv.com> References: <20070518150932.DE90D16A500@hub.freebsd.org> <20070518153315.GA79307@wjv.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+sH3qD5FSSyXK41x5clw" Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:08:00 +0100 Message-Id: <1179504480.1234.5.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - differnce? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:08:14 -0000 --=-+sH3qD5FSSyXK41x5clw Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 11:33 -0400, Bill Vermillion wrote: .... > > acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 > > ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable > *********************************************************** >=20 > That's why you are only getting UDMA33. Change the cable if it's > not correct. You might also try changing from P-ATA emulation if > that's possible. >=20 > .... >=20 > Bill IIRC almost all SATA cables are non-ATA66 cables.... --=-+sH3qD5FSSyXK41x5clw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGTc9dlcRvFfyds/cRAkMKAKC2vaKCur2YXCYO+dpvNKzakGBZWACgsQV7 DI0L2B9I7o7/KG3rS30wlfw= =3ZuP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+sH3qD5FSSyXK41x5clw-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 16:25:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844C416A404 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pj@smo.de) Received: from ilk.de (mx-out12.ilk.de [194.121.104.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0544713C448 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pj@smo.de) Received: from bologna.intern.smo.de (pool45.ka.ilk.net [212.86.194.45]) by ilk.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/ilk-relay) with ESMTP id l4IGPXdm014267; Fri, 18 May 2007 18:25:34 +0200 Received: from [192.168.153.208] (herdubreid.intern.smo.de [192.168.153.208]) by bologna.intern.smo.de (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4IGNDZI025675; Fri, 18 May 2007 18:23:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464DD3BD.2020809@smo.de> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:26:37 +0200 From: Philipp Ost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20070323 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Walthall References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> <20070518150912.GA19343@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> In-Reply-To: <20070518150912.GA19343@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:25:39 -0000 John Walthall wrote: > And let's not forget the infamous geometry bug! For me, at least sysinstall > has always, 100% of the time, incorrectly detected my disc geometry. Same here. I ignored it every time and got no problems at all... > Sysinstall is adequate, nothing more, nothing less. I don't mean though, to > belittle the efforts of the developers; these days people are going to > expect it to be polished on the order of YaST, which is ridiculous. Sysinstall > is functional. Full ACK. > Although irritated, variously, by every one of these issues, I am most concerned > about the geometry bug, it looks lackadaisical. The only other concern I have is the I-don't-know-which-field-is-in-focus-bug. But I have to admit that I rarely use sysinstall, so I don't bother that much... > If people have trouble with sysinstall-the-configuration-tool, perhaps they > might examine sysutils/webmin? That my be true for post-installation situations, but it doesn't help those people who want to *install* FreeBSD on their machines... Just my 2 cent Philipp -- www.familie-ost.info/~pj From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 20:09:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD6216A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89D713C448 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l4IK9dIr065562; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:09:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <464E07FB.1070008@samsco.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:09:31 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Evans References: <20070518150932.DE90D16A500@hub.freebsd.org> <20070518153315.GA79307@wjv.com> <1179504480.1234.5.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1179504480.1234.5.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Fri, 18 May 2007 14:09:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native SATA vs. PATA-emulation - differnce? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:09:44 -0000 Tom Evans wrote: > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 11:33 -0400, Bill Vermillion wrote: > .... >>> acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 >>> ad4: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable >> *********************************************************** >> >> That's why you are only getting UDMA33. Change the cable if it's >> not correct. You might also try changing from P-ATA emulation if >> that's possible. >> >> .... >> >> Bill > > IIRC almost all SATA cables are non-ATA66 cables.... SATA has no concept of ATA33, ATA66, etc. The message from the driver means nothing for this case. The solution to the original poster's question has already been answered, I believe. Scott From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 21:38:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07E916A401 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 21:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E75713C447 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 21:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from ap-h.matik.com.br (ap-h.matik.com.br [200.152.83.36]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4ILcdTk093192; Fri, 18 May 2007 18:38:39 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: Gavin Atkinson , Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:37:55 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705181837.56210.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL, MONOTONE_WORDS_15_2,MR_DIFF_MID,TW_FD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: Antispam Datacenter Matik msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:38:41 -0000 On Thursday 17 May 2007 15:10:06 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 05:51:07PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:30 +0100, Chris wrote: > > > A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off > > > FreeBSD. > > > > Although work on a new installer is "ongoing", nobody ever seems to be > > clear what the problems are with the current installer that they are > > trying to fix. =A0I believe PC-BSD uses a different installer, which is > > the current candidate, although I personally prefer the current one. > > I'm guessing a new installer never make everybody happy. > > As someone who has had to show many people "how" to use the FreeBSD > installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to. datacenters probably do not use the installer at all but that is another po= int further to the points you mentioned already I like to add that the most=20 missing thing is that the installer does not suggest a default disk layout. Jumping directly into fdisk is where a user aborts and also as mentioned,=20 since disk geometry is not necessary to show at all, first because it is=20 mostly wrong and second who cares. This is not for a standard installer and= =20 should be an option (if). a user does not know what fdisk is and what to do (and eventually he does n= ot=20 even speak nor read english so the options list is what scares him still=20 more)=20 so he is bailing out here and for my understandings this is the most import= ant=20 point which cause freebsd does not make it to the user's desktop.=20 So a better solution would be to invert the current situation and give a=20 default layout for fdisk AND labels which can be accepted () or cancell= ed=20 and if then jumps into fdsik for advanced users My personal suggestion is to invert the IP screen and put GW and DNS after = IP=20 and mask fields what is kind of more usual and logical =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 22:29:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D12C16A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 22:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD3C13C45B for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 22:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 24585 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 2007 22:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 May 2007 22:29:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Philipp Ost In-Reply-To: <464DD3BD.2020809@smo.de> Message-ID: References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <1179420667.87418.22.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20070517181006.GB69514@icarus.home.lan> <20070518150912.GA19343@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <464DD3BD.2020809@smo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:29:05 -0000 On Fri, 18 May 2007, Philipp Ost wrote: > The only other concern I have is the > I-don't-know-which-field-is-in-focus-bug. But I have to admit that I rarely > use sysinstall, so I don't bother that much... Jeremy hit the nail on the head with that one. I do use it fairly often and have gotten used to that quirk. But new users... that clearly will confuse them. If there were one area to focus on, I'd say that's the one. It's a tough one though because the people that work on that probably also haven't seen a n00b sitting in front of it in some time and anyone that uses sysinstall regularly has "patched" it in their head. That said, for a quick "I don't want to read anything I just want to jam the CD in and get it installed" tool, I think the PC-BSD installer is outstanding. Charles > Just my 2 cent > > > Philipp > -- > www.familie-ost.info/~pj > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 18 23:27:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E30D16A400 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hans.F.Nordhaug@hiMolde.no) Received: from sil.himolde.no (sil.hiMolde.no [158.38.83.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC32713C480 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 23:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hans.F.Nordhaug@hiMolde.no) Received: from malle.himolde.no ([158.38.68.22]) by sil.himolde.no with InterScan Message Security Suite; Sat, 19 May 2007 00:57:09 +0200 Received: from harr.himolde.no (harr.hiMolde.no [158.38.68.20])by malle.himolde.no (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l4IMv6aP001825;Sat, 19 May 2007 00:57:06 +0200 Received: from harr.himolde.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])by harr.himolde.no (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4IMv63x002051; Sat, 19 May 2007 00:57:06 +0200 Received: (from nordhaug@localhost)by harr.himolde.no (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l4IMv5gA002050;Sat, 19 May 2007 00:57:05 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:57:05 +0200 From: "Hans F. Nordhaug" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070518225705.GA2009@hiMolde.no> References: <20061019193846.GA6209@hiMolde.no> <45380731.9010004@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45380731.9010004@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-imss-version: 2.047 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-approveListMatch: *@*.no Cc: Colin Percival Subject: Re: daemonology.net instructions - binary upgrade 5.3 to 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:27:12 -0000 * Colin Percival [2006-10-20]: > Hans F. Nordhaug wrote: > > At daemonology.net Colin Percival has some excellent instructions on > > how to do binary upgrades - he has even written a script to do a 6.0 > > to 6.1 upgrade. My question is: Can I do a 5.3 to 6.1 upgrade using > > the instructions for "5.4 system to FreeBSD 6.0" - see > > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-5.4-to-6.0/ > > Or, should I upgrade 5.3 to 6.0 and finally use the script to > > get from 6.0 to 6.1? I assume the former, but just want to be sure. > > Either option will probably work; but I've never done a 5.3->6.0 binary > upgrade directly, so I can't guarantee that it will work. :-) OK, I finally had some time to upgrade my server, and I ended up doing an upgrade from 5.3 to 6.2 directly following your instructions on http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-5.4-to-6.0/ It didn't go very well. It took me many hours to find out what went wrong - the kernel wasn't upgraded. (I was running with a 6.2 userland and a 5.3 kernel.) Digging some more I found the problem: In step 7 we generate /usr/base.tgz by doing cat /mnt/6.0-RELEASE/${dist}/${dist}.?? > /usr/${dist}.tgz (where $dist is one of base dict doc manpages) or in my case cat /mnt/6.2-RELEASE/${dist}/${dist}.?? > /usr/${dist}.tgz If you look at the base.tgz created from 6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso you'll notice it contains an empty /boot/kernel directory !!! If you look at the /boot/kernel directory of the CD everything is present ... I wonder if this a mistake when creating the 6.2-RELEASE/base/base.?? files on the disc or if this is an intentional change from 6.0 to 6.2? After getting the new kernel in place things turned out OK. Well, actually I got a new surprise - all my config files were overwritten. I created the file /root/base-modified (as explained in the instructions). I then did for dist in base dict doc manpages catpages info; do /rescue/tar -Uxpzf /usr/${dist}.tgz -X /root/base-modified -C / done as explained, but still the files in /etc was overwritten - for example /etc/passwd even if that file is listed in /root/base-modified. Could it be that /rescue/tar is seeing "etc/passwd" in base.tgz and hence doesn't exclude "/etc/passwd". Anyway, I did have a back-up. Regards, Hans PS! In step 17 - portsnap has moved in the Ports collection. The new location /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portsnap. @Colin: I'm not in anyway blaming you - I'm completely aware of the fact that the instructions were for 5.4 -> 6.0. I'm just sharing my experience if someone considers doing a 5.X -> 6.2 upgrade... From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 08:22:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7089D16A401 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A0113C458 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 19 May 2007 01:22:43 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CADhRTkaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051901224026-499 ; Sat, 19 May 2007 01:22:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:22:40 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) In-Reply-To: <20070517200615.GA19092@soaustin.net> Message-ID: References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> <20070517200615.GA19092@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/19/2007 01:22:40, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/19/2007 01:22:42, Serialize complete at 05/19/2007 01:22:42 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Craig Boston Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 08:22:46 -0000 On Thu, 17 May 2007, linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:35:10PM -0500, Craig Boston wrote: > > The alternative would have been to commit what we had and _then_ found > out all the bugs in the upgrade process (note: you won't be able to just > blindly use portupgrade -af; you will need to read the UPDATING file for > the proper procedure. This is the unusual case of being such a sweeping > change that the port management tools are not completely up to the task.) okay could this freeze an explanation for the fact that my x is totally hosed? i know any random joe can't necessarily answer that.. but assuming it is true.. umm.. how long is this freeze going to last then? > >> I don't know if portmgr@ has approved any commits during the xorg freeze >> or not. > > Nope. There are simply too many ports that have interdependencies among > the xorg ports. > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 08:26:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79E516A40A for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C7E13C4B0 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 19 May 2007 01:26:41 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CADhRTkaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051901263784-500 ; Sat, 19 May 2007 01:26:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Christian Walther In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0705180049l2a427dbdx2baa43204d250f04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> <14989d6e0705180049l2a427dbdx2baa43204d250f04@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/19/2007 01:26:38, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/19/2007 01:26:39, Serialize complete at 05/19/2007 01:26:39 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list Subject: Re: make mplayer failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 08:26:40 -0000 On Fri, 18 May 2007, Christian Walther wrote: > On 17/05/07, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >> >> here is my error message >> >> onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0 atk >= 1.9.0 >> pa >> ngo >= 1.12.0 cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met: >> >> No package 'atk' found >> Requested 'cairo >= 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2 >> > [...] > > atk is in /usr/ports/accessibility. Are you using a ports-supfile with > accessibility removed? > i dunno. does that mean no? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 08:27:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE7016A400 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB4213C45B for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 19 May 2007 01:27:17 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CADhRTkaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051901271417-501 ; Sat, 19 May 2007 01:27:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:27:14 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Christian Walther In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0705180049l2a427dbdx2baa43204d250f04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> <14989d6e0705180049l2a427dbdx2baa43204d250f04@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/19/2007 01:27:14, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/19/2007 01:27:15, Serialize complete at 05/19/2007 01:27:15 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list Subject: Re: make mplayer failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 08:27:16 -0000 On Fri, 18 May 2007, Christian Walther wrote: > On 17/05/07, KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >> >> here is my error message >> >> onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0 atk >= 1.9.0 >> pa >> ngo >= 1.12.0 cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met: >> >> No package 'atk' found >> Requested 'cairo >= 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2 >> > [...] > > atk is in /usr/ports/accessibility. Are you using a ports-supfile with > accessibility removed? it's possible somebody toldme to do that. how can i diagnose? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 08:30:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2271216A40A for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron1.sfsu.edu (iron1.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B26313C4C2 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 08:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron1.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 19 May 2007 01:30:51 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAHFSTkaC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051901304983-502 ; Sat, 19 May 2007 01:30:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:30:50 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Stefan Lambrev In-Reply-To: <464D5B51.5050801@sun-fish.com> Message-ID: References: <464B114C.5080703@net4.in> <44irarz7fs.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200705171446.33965.lists@jnielsen.net> <464D5B51.5050801@sun-fish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/19/2007 01:30:49, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/19/2007 01:30:50, Serialize complete at 05/19/2007 01:30:50 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 08:30:52 -0000 On Fri, 18 May 2007, Stefan Lambrev wrote: > KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >> On Thu, 17 May 2007, John Nielsen wrote: >>> On Thursday 17 May 2007 02:37:15 pm KAYVEN RIESE wrote: >>>> On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>>> KAYVEN RIESE writes: > > And if you posted the error, but nobody can see it, this is because you break > the thread with subject > "NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 > Server" > and I personally am little lost in your mails ;) i don't know what to tell ppl. there is oodles of stuff going on. can u give me some diagnosis advice so i can give u pertinent information? i can't run xfce4. i get the little mousie but he is not very nice to me. i know that is not much to go on, but i have no idea what is going wrong. all i know is that pango failed, and after that x failed. then i tried to reinstall or something. i haven't been very good about saving things in a typescript or something but besides.. can u save a make in a typescript? could this be related this this freeze thing? > > There are simple rules if you want everybody to understand you: > new problem - new thread, > do not top post ;) > and of course the most important - explain you problem better - not just "XX > does not work, problem?". > Explain what you did and how the OS respond, what version you use and etc. > > After you provide this information we'll gladly help you (if we can) :) > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > > Best Wishes, > Stefan Lambrev > ICQ# 24134177 > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 09:51:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E8C16A400 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 09:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C232D13C43E for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 09:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: (qmail 7401 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 09:44:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (thomasjudge@btinternet.com@86.140.150.175 with plain) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2007 09:44:29 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7H_99TUVM1lSzRZC3XFlmDt.heUWIcGxWlfYHTRYOfYEElCBmkRL4ykKMYZGeUCS7jmW0EOT82ozznP6q1oFWDw- Message-ID: <464EC759.7090200@tomjudge.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:46:01 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KAYVEN RIESE References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list Subject: Re: make mplayer failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 09:51:10 -0000 Sorry about the top post but this has nothing to do with your problem. Please stop hijacking threads. Both of you last 3 messages that should have been new threads ("Install SCSI over ATAPI fro DVD", "xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff" and this thread) have hijacked totally unrelated threads. Can I suggest that when you want to start a new thread on the mailing list that you hit the new message button and type in the list email address rather than hitting reply to another message and then replacing the message to be replied to with a new message. Tom KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > here is my error message > > onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0 atk >= > 1.9.0 pa > ngo >= 1.12.0 cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met: > > No package 'atk' found > Requested 'cairo >= 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2 > > Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you > installed software in a non-standard prefix. > > Alternatively, you may set the environment variables > BASE_DEPENDENCIES_CFLAGS > and BASE_DEPENDENCIES_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. > See the pkg-config man page for more details. > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from > "http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the > problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer > cannot > solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at > gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a) > "/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.10.11/config.log", (b) the > output > of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it > might > be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your > system > (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website, > copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) > with > the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list > (gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are > usually discarded by the mailing list software. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer. > bsd@/root# find / -name gnomelogalyzer.sh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 10:03:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B732016A403 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 10:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C7F713C4C2 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 10:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: (qmail 71147 invoked from network); 19 May 2007 09:36:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (thomasjudge@btinternet.com@86.140.150.175 with plain) by smtp807.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 May 2007 09:36:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Z7FfmpwVM1nzuQ_NiZaPYTBdNTsMlzC1X3UapNdv06TKLdCFHw6Qu4Q6luCpkBo2GuVOArpcQKAC0oKfmAY25ms- Message-ID: <464EC56F.5080302@tomjudge.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:37:51 +0100 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert Wong References: <464cb7ee.47aeb6f6.546d.7849@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <464cb7ee.47aeb6f6.546d.7849@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:03:00 -0000 Albert Wong wrote: > [Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] > > I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and MySQL 4.1. I am trying to use the libthr > threading mechanism through the libmap.conf setting, as to earlier in this > thread post, as a possible fix. [Though, I don't know if I have in fact been > successful in switching to libthr or not... because I'm not sure if I need > to recompile / reboot? I don't know if mysql was install from a port or > not.] > > In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in /etc/libmap.conf]: > > > [mysqld] > libc_r.so libthr.so > libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2 > libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 > libpthread.so libthr.so > libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 > > and I also added ... > WITH_LIBMAP= yes > > to my make.conf file. > > Is there something else I need to do [e.g., recompile? / reboot?] in order > to activate libthr? The problem remains even with these adjustments. > You can validate the settings in libmap.conf with ldd. Here is the output you should see if libmap.conf is correct. > $ ldd /usr/local/libexec/mysqld /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: libz.so.3 => /lib/libz.so.3 (0x6849c000) libwrap.so.4 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.4 (0x684ac000) libcrypt.so.3 => /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x684b3000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x684cc000) libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x6859b000) libpthread.so.2 => /usr/lib/libthr.so.2 (0x685b1000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x685c4000) Tom From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 12:26:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C88416A402 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 12:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF74D13C44B for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 12:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAF21B10EB5 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:26:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hater.cmotd.com (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852421B10EA4 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:26:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EED09.6000108@sun-fish.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:26:49 +0300 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Subject: serial over /dev/ttyu0 does not work. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 12:26:51 -0000 Hello list. There is a weird situation where my serial connection stoped working. I have disabled device sio in kernel and replaced it with device uart. And so dmesg |grep uart is : uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 I was expecting to see uart1 too .. but it is not here. I have: /dev/ttyu0 & /dev/cuau0, also in /etc/ttys I have the following line: ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure I have this configuration on other servers too and it works without problems, but the main difference that I found is when I use minicom. I think if I try to open /dev/cuau0 I should see "Device busy" - and on all other servers where I checked it does respond with "Device busy" as it is already used, but on this server I do not! Also I notice that where the serial is NOT working I have this line in ps xa: 1653 ?? I 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 In first moment I thought it is OK to have getty on ttyu0, but what is this "??" :) so I checked on the other server and I saw that there is NO getty on ttyu0 running at all (it is started when I start minicom from the other side of the serial but then it shows: 99615 u0 Ss+ 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 and it is stopped when I stop minicom) Any useful ideas where to look for ? Also switching back from uart to sio may sound OK, but it needs another restart :( both machines are using: uname -srm FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE amd64 P.S. I'm 100% sure it is not a cable problem as the serial console was working with device sio 5minutes ago :( The problem is that with sio the second com port that not work due I/O range conflicts and uart saved me once so I try same solution and here. -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 13:05:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8BD16A400 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from frontmail.ipactive.de (frontmail.maindns.de [85.214.95.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904DB13C45D for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from mail.vtec.ipme.de (Q7d25.q.ppp-pool.de [89.53.125.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by frontmail.ipactive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97DD128829; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:05:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cesar.sz.vwsoft.com (unknown [192.168.18.3]) by mail.vtec.ipme.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAAC3FA01; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:05:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EF600.80605@vwsoft.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:05:04 +0200 From: Volker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max Laier References: <464D89AD.2090704@vwsoft.com> <200705181614.27182.max@love2party.net> In-Reply-To: <200705181614.27182.max@love2party.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-VWSoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com X-ipactive-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ipactive-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ipactive-MailScanner-From: volker@vwsoft.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel trap 12 while reloading pf + altq X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:05:47 -0000 On 05/18/07 16:14, Max Laier wrote: > On Friday 18 May 2007 13:10, Volker wrote: >> I'm wondering if any of the hackers is able to take a look at this panic? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/106400 > > I will try to finally get this into comittable shape one of these days. Can > you confirm that it fixes things for you, too? > > > > - Max > Max, long time no read... thanks for your answer. I'll try and see if I can recreate this panic anyhow. At least, I'm unable to get the machine easily. Half a year ago, the machine panic'd when reloading pf rules using altq on ngX interface. This issue has gone a while back. If I can't cause the machine to panic, it will be hard to tell if your patch works or not. Will come back to you as soon as I've got any results. For the PR: I already commented on it. Unfortunately I don't use for myself what I've suggested to the PR committer. Thx Volker From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 13:17:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7891916A580 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CF213C469 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300D61B10EA4 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hater.cmotd.com (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9A81B10C26 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EF8F0.1090205@sun-fish.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 16:17:36 +0300 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Subject: carp patch - will this ever be in releng_6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:17:37 -0000 Hi, Are there any chances for this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c.diff?r1=1.46;r2=1.47 to be MFCed to RELENG_6 before 6.3-release ? It fixes quite annoying bug - destroying carpX (when having at least 2 carp interfaces) will panic immediately. This bugfix is from 3+ months ago. -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 13:26:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF19416A404 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2E813C44B for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/smtpout03/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l4JDQPi0023680; Sat, 19 May 2007 06:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.255.255.56] (unassigned-114.072.netsurf.net [66.135.114.72] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l4JDQMNU028560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 19 May 2007 06:26:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <464EED09.6000108@sun-fish.com> References: <464EED09.6000108@sun-fish.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Marcel Moolenaar Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 09:26:13 -0400 To: Stefan Lambrev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial over /dev/ttyu0 does not work. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:26:25 -0000 On May 19, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Stefan Lambrev wrote: > I have disabled device sio in kernel and replaced it with device uart. > > And so dmesg |grep uart is : > > uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 > > I was expecting to see uart1 too .. but it is not here. It's likely that the port doesn't exist or you disabled it in the BIOS. With ACPI you can be sure we won't try to create a device for hardware that isn't described by ACPI. > I have: /dev/ttyu0 & /dev/cuau0, also in /etc/ttys I have the > following line: > ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > I have this configuration on other servers too and it works without > problems, > but the main difference that I found is when I use minicom. > I think if I try to open /dev/cuau0 I should see "Device busy" - > and on all other servers where I checked > it does respond with "Device busy" as it is already used, but on > this server I do not! Are you sure your minicom configuration is correct? Could it be that it still tries to open ttyd0? > Also I notice that where the serial is NOT working I have this line > in ps xa: > 1653 ?? I 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 > In first moment I thought it is OK to have getty on ttyu0, but what > is this "??" :) It means that there's no terminal associated with the getty process. It's perfectly normal. > so I checked on the other server and I saw that there is NO getty > on ttyu0 running at all (it is started > when I start minicom from the other side of the serial but then it > shows: > 99615 u0 Ss+ 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 > and it is stopped when I stop minicom) Interesting. How is getty started exactly? BTW: In this case getty is associated with ttyu0 itself. That's not uncommon and happens when you manually start and/or stop getty. > Any useful ideas where to look for ? Also switching back from uart > to sio may sound OK, but it needs another restart :( The problem doesn't seem to be with uart(4). I see getty(8) and minicom(1) behaviour that's different on this box from other boxes (as per your description). It looks to me to be a config problem. -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 13:35:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B2616A404 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EC113C45E for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E250C1B10EA4; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:35:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hater.cmotd.com (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79971B10C26; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:35:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464EFD35.703@sun-fish.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 16:35:49 +0300 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce M. Simpson" References: <464EF8F0.1090205@sun-fish.com> <464EFB31.8010200@incunabulum.net> In-Reply-To: <464EFB31.8010200@incunabulum.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090606080405020307030505" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: carp patch - will this ever be in releng_6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:35:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090606080405020307030505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Stefan Lambrev wrote: >> >> Are there any chances for this: >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c.diff?r1=1.46;r2=1.47 >> >> to be MFCed to RELENG_6 before 6.3-release ? >> >> It fixes quite annoying bug - destroying carpX (when having at least >> 2 carp interfaces) will panic immediately. >> This bugfix is from 3+ months ago. >> > Sadly it is unlikely the failure condition you describe will be fixed > in -STABLE, as resolving it requires far more work to be merged than > the link to the diff you post above. The attached patch worked for me - it is based on the posted URL. At least I didn't notice bad effects and it fixes the bug. -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 --------------090606080405020307030505 Content-Type: text/plain; name="carp.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="carp.patch" --- src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c.orig Thu Feb 1 18:53:55 2007 +++ src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c Tue Feb 6 18:41:24 2007 @@ -191,7 +191,7 @@ static void carp_input_c(struct mbuf *, struct carp_header *, sa_family_t); static int carp_clone_create(struct if_clone *, int); static void carp_clone_destroy(struct ifnet *); -static void carpdetach(struct carp_softc *); +static void carpdetach(struct carp_softc *, int); static int carp_prepare_ad(struct mbuf *, struct carp_softc *, struct carp_header *); static void carp_send_ad_all(void); @@ -406,9 +406,7 @@ if (sc->sc_carpdev) CARP_SCLOCK(sc); - carpdetach(sc); - if (sc->sc_carpdev) - CARP_SCUNLOCK(sc); + carpdetach(sc, 1); /* Returns unlocked. */ mtx_lock(&carp_mtx); LIST_REMOVE(sc, sc_next); @@ -420,7 +418,7 @@ } static void -carpdetach(struct carp_softc *sc) +carpdetach(struct carp_softc *sc, int unlock) { struct carp_if *cif; @@ -450,9 +448,10 @@ sc->sc_carpdev->if_carp = NULL; CARP_LOCK_DESTROY(cif); FREE(cif, M_IFADDR); - } + } else if (unlock) + CARP_UNLOCK(cif); + sc->sc_carpdev = NULL; } - sc->sc_carpdev = NULL; } /* Detach an interface from the carp. */ @@ -471,7 +470,7 @@ CARP_LOCK(cif); for (sc = TAILQ_FIRST(&cif->vhif_vrs); sc; sc = nextsc) { nextsc = TAILQ_NEXT(sc, sc_list); - carpdetach(sc); + carpdetach(sc, 0); } } --------------090606080405020307030505-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 13:43:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D492E16A401 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CA813C44B for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF1220A15; Sat, 19 May 2007 09:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 19 May 2007 09:27:15 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: BvpXiQATDsgglQuy0L1Ysv/0HM5LvBjF+7ZMYacxXTGV 1179581234 Received: from [192.168.123.18] (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A5418BBA; Sat, 19 May 2007 09:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <464EFB31.8010200@incunabulum.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:27:13 +0100 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Lambrev References: <464EF8F0.1090205@sun-fish.com> In-Reply-To: <464EF8F0.1090205@sun-fish.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: carp patch - will this ever be in releng_6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:43:15 -0000 Stefan Lambrev wrote: > > Are there any chances for this: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_carp.c.diff?r1=1.46;r2=1.47 > > to be MFCed to RELENG_6 before 6.3-release ? > > It fixes quite annoying bug - destroying carpX (when having at least 2 > carp interfaces) will panic immediately. > This bugfix is from 3+ months ago. > Sadly it is unlikely the failure condition you describe will be fixed in -STABLE, as resolving it requires far more work to be merged than the link to the diff you post above. Regards, BMS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 13:53:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BAF16A407 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (blah.sun-fish.com [217.18.249.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0802A13C45D for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 13:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.lambrev@sun-fish.com) Received: from blah.sun-fish.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29171B10EE8; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hater.cmotd.com (hater.cmotd.com [192.168.3.125]) by blah.sun-fish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7351B10EE7; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464F0167.5080203@sun-fish.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 16:53:43 +0300 From: Stefan Lambrev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar References: <464EED09.6000108@sun-fish.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on BLAH Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial over /dev/ttyu0 does not work. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:53:47 -0000 Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On May 19, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Stefan Lambrev wrote: > >> I have disabled device sio in kernel and replaced it with device uart. >> >> And so dmesg |grep uart is : >> >> uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 >> >> I was expecting to see uart1 too .. but it is not here. > > It's likely that the port doesn't exist or you disabled it > in the BIOS. With ACPI you can be sure we won't try to > create a device for hardware that isn't described by ACPI. > >> I have: /dev/ttyu0 & /dev/cuau0, also in /etc/ttys I have the >> following line: >> ttyu0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > >> I have this configuration on other servers too and it works without >> problems, >> but the main difference that I found is when I use minicom. > >> I think if I try to open /dev/cuau0 I should see "Device busy" - and >> on all other servers where I checked >> it does respond with "Device busy" as it is already used, but on this >> server I do not! > > Are you sure your minicom configuration is correct? Could it > be that it still tries to open ttyd0? Yes I'm sure :) > >> Also I notice that where the serial is NOT working I have this line >> in ps xa: >> 1653 ?? I 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 >> In first moment I thought it is OK to have getty on ttyu0, but what >> is this "??" :) > > It means that there's no terminal associated with the getty process. > It's perfectly normal. > >> so I checked on the other server and I saw that there is NO getty on >> ttyu0 running at all (it is started >> when I start minicom from the other side of the serial but then it >> shows: >> 99615 u0 Ss+ 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyu0 >> and it is stopped when I stop minicom) > > Interesting. How is getty started exactly? > BTW: In this case getty is associated with ttyu0 itself. That's not > uncommon and happens when you manually start and/or stop getty. No, I do not start it manually. The parent process is 1 - /sbin/init May be someone more familiar with rc.scripts, init and ttys can explain. > >> Any useful ideas where to look for ? Also switching back from uart to >> sio may sound OK, but it needs another restart :( > > The problem doesn't seem to be with uart(4). I see getty(8) and > minicom(1) behaviour that's different on this box from other > boxes (as per your description). It looks to me to be a config > problem. > Well it is not uart because, if I start minicom on both ends, the first minicom receive : AT S7=45 S0=0 L1 V1 X4 &c1 E1 Q0. So the serial is working, but for some reason getty cannot start on it (or/and lock it) ? -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 15:17:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B2916A4D8 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 15:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7212013CC53 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajwwong@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d23so289231and for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 07:59:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=ZUnIJ3M4Zzlj2g8EOisMHCXJy8WCkIwqJaArVhTc+hXq+ScnBopciAnsuwgDZFu6MAZjQt2F1bfl+QhaCEqjUvX8QgMtKa97/QG7Hn1Hf80HHk6JfBWKEam0Hn6Tsa6XSy2ygBrk14tPnBLtnHKBEpkNCGTsDvBInh8WGHgidlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=Wjh4Ek3/esXGGVG0vcPYKIceVAeYy/7nXQhqxvxrSgkscNadZ5nuprnAii4DIWGBkZbdMkcOMyBvBvlsOFf8Z+QpIi+WnSBX6+DYNGEbA/ky1CFLbr7ihjIw27qFK7BZWuSMBDKSFmXqezeK6Die+8LFrtfqiT4bB+pgVVdd+O4= Received: by 10.100.91.6 with SMTP id o6mr1878842anb.1179586741561; Sat, 19 May 2007 07:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LettingGo ( [68.183.91.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b37sm6716337ana.2007.05.19.07.59.00; Sat, 19 May 2007 07:59:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Albert Wong" To: "'Tom Judge'" Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 07:59:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <464EC56F.5080302@tomjudge.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AceZ+SiTVJ9+YEzGRueWVVI9VTmBNgALLG0g Message-ID: <464f10b4.4b4c3187.2623.ffffc2e7@mx.google.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:17:38 -0000 Thanks for this tip, Tom. I think [fingers crossed] that things are stable now... :-) ldd /usr/local/libexec/mysqld yields: /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: libz.so.3 => /lib/libz.so.3 (0x28452000) libwrap.so.4 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.4 (0x28463000) libcrypt.so.3 => /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x2846a000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x28482000) libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x2854d000) libpthread.so.2 => /usr/lib/libthr.so.2 (0x28563000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28575000) ... though in the end, I'm not quite sure which tweak I did from above in this thread fixed it. Anyhow, thanks to you guys for all your help. Blessings, Albert > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Judge [mailto:tom@tomjudge.com] > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:38 AM > To: Albert Wong > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2 > > Albert Wong wrote: > > > [Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] > > > > I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and MySQL 4.1. I am trying to use the libthr > > threading mechanism through the libmap.conf setting, as to earlier in > this > > thread post, as a possible fix. [Though, I don't know if I have in fact > been > > successful in switching to libthr or not... because I'm not sure if I > need > > to recompile / reboot? I don't know if mysql was install from a port or > > not.] > > > > In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in > /etc/libmap.conf]: > > > > > > [mysqld] > > libc_r.so libthr.so > > libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2 > > libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2 > > libpthread.so libthr.so > > libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 > > > > and I also added ... > > WITH_LIBMAP= yes > > > > to my make.conf file. > > > > Is there something else I need to do [e.g., recompile? / reboot?] in > order > > to activate libthr? The problem remains even with these adjustments. > > > > > You can validate the settings in libmap.conf with ldd. Here is the > output you should see if libmap.conf is correct. > > > $ ldd /usr/local/libexec/mysqld > /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: > libz.so.3 => /lib/libz.so.3 (0x6849c000) > libwrap.so.4 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.4 (0x684ac000) > libcrypt.so.3 => /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x684b3000) > libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x684cc000) > libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x6859b000) > libpthread.so.2 => /usr/lib/libthr.so.2 (0x685b1000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x685c4000) > > > Tom From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 21:01:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B859516A421 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 21:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC1D13C465 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 21:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so631987ugh for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:01:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l7QMY3D9q1qqj/K64x66q1rrf4z2rFTqEKXIiPkkIzzMiW3UdJ74FqAobyPVECjfAuStTg3+JLU7rh+6M96IInj5p4BOqO95elzoLM42nIUc3R0lx9RnACmLCbZOvT0BroAqjr9tsQwosswUAeJvhFMbkdDyVp2ocYXHPhlY3qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BKR8AGddy/Ti+q3TWz5GLFYxmhHNwbejxmobL/qqvJBwZCrGugjxkjcBmgf6eGIcd9+qeztBjGcQ95kQzZF/N2yX4xq34iCkGYOeRUlCvVBzgGHvZjR6a1f2XQNgOC6+K4Hx7lGi+AzkquDbFbyUowMuD6KX1pUrK1wbpaqGLVY= Received: by 10.67.21.11 with SMTP id y11mr2083393ugi.1179608486225; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.24.16 with HTTP; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0705191401k136f4747hdb1d5aa16f34f257@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:01:26 +0100 From: Chris To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> <20070517200615.GA19092@soaustin.net> Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, KAYVEN RIESE , Craig Boston Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:01:27 -0000 On 19/05/07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Saturday, May 19, 2007 01:22:40 -0700 KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 May 2007, linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote: > > > >> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:35:10PM -0500, Craig Boston wrote: > >> > >> The alternative would have been to commit what we had and _then_ found > >> out all the bugs in the upgrade process (note: you won't be able to just > >> blindly use portupgrade -af; you will need to read the UPDATING file for > >> the proper procedure. This is the unusual case of being such a sweeping > >> change that the port management tools are not completely up to the task.) > > > > okay could this freeze an explanation for the fact that my x is totally > > hosed? i know any random joe can't necessarily answer that.. but assuming > > it is true.. > > Not sure how ... since the freeze started, I haven't seen any commits to the X > system go through, or anything else for that matter (sorry, except for one port > that I can't recall its name) ... I know in my case, I'm looking forward to the > freeze being lifted since there was a recent release of new versions of PHP ... > :) > > > how long is this freeze going to last then? > > Not 100% certain, but Kris just posted a note about the X stuff bbeing > committed, so I'm guessing RSN ... > > - ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFGTxzN4QvfyHIvDvMRAkIqAKDAV3YQkNPIS8+XXtM13dpA7CQybgCbBhUK > rxDqsrCVzL9DFQ+lLpCrSRs= > =ur1s > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Hi thanks for all the time spent on responses and it been civil. I have checked and I think my comments about the times of STABLE major releases is inaccurate and based on percieved memory rather then facts I apologise for that, I do hope tho ports will continue to work on 6.x a while after 7.x released. regarding network bugs in 6.x, generally its stable, the nfs problems were mainly fixed in 6.2 the issue comes under circumstances where the network load is higher then the typical situation ie. a DDOS attack. I would expect under a hevay attack for the server to go offline which is fine, but I wouldnt expect the server to deadlock and need a reboot as a result of a DDOS attack especially a small/medium attack, on 4.x and even 5.x to a limited extenct the machine could cope with a fairly high pps but on 6.x with same hardware it can handle much less, I have no idea why but thats what happens. I friend of mine runs FreeBSD routers in a large network and had to downgrade back to 4.x because of this. With the ports freeze I wonder in situations when a full freeze is needed it is better to do so on a seperate testing branch so it allows security commits etc. to carry on as normal and then remerge again after testing is complete. Or is this simply not possible to do? Sysinstaller I do agree it does the job but thats it, its not good enough for people not familiar with freebsd I feel and is a major reason for adoptivity to freebsd. Good news on the dynamic tcp stuff :) Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 21:24:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FBA16A421 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 21:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B972613C4B7 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 21:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-71-109-158-80.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.158.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4JLBxfW053702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 14:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Stable From: Doug Hardie Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:11:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/3270/Sat May 19 07:19:58 2007 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: installworld in 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:24:59 -0000 I have found what I believe is a "bug" in installworld for FreeBSD 6.2. I do not believe this was in 6.1 as I would have encountered the same problem there. I run a number of production servers. I maintain the source on one development machine where it is built and tested. To upgrade a production server I NIS mount /usr/src and /usr/ obj then run the commands per UPDATING. The problem occurs now because my development machine has /usr on a slice on the same disk as /. However, /usr/obj is a soft link to /usr2 which is a separate drive. There was not enough space on the primary drive for everything and I really don't need to backup /usr/obj as it can easily be rebuilt. During make installworld when it gets to the /boot section I get an error that it cannot make a library in /usr2/obj/src..... Everything quits at that point. My production machines do not have a /usr2 filesystem. In order to get installworld to work I had to add a soft link on the production server of /usr2 pointing to /usr. Then installworld completed properly. I don't believe that link should be needed. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 22:00:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AD416A400 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 22:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9693A13C457 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 22:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-10-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.10.135]:62180 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1HpWyj-0004Ph-8a for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 May 2007 00:00:45 +0200 Received: (qmail 3961 invoked from network); 20 May 2007 00:00:40 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 20 May 2007 00:00:40 +0200 Received: (qmail 5990 invoked by uid 1001); 20 May 2007 00:00:40 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:00:40 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20070519220040.GA5929@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD Stable References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HpWyj-0004Ph-8a. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1HpWyj-0004Ph-8a f2cc704a32b703c55d13832c291bbd51 Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: installworld in 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:00:47 -0000 On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:11:59PM -0700, Doug Hardie wrote: > I have found what I believe is a "bug" in installworld for FreeBSD > 6.2. I do not believe this was in 6.1 as I would have encountered > the same problem there. I run a number of production servers. I > maintain the source on one development machine where it is built and > tested. To upgrade a production server I NIS mount /usr/src and /usr/ > obj then run the commands per UPDATING. The problem occurs now > because my development machine has /usr on a slice on the same disk > as /. However, /usr/obj is a soft link to /usr2 which is a separate > drive. There was not enough space on the primary drive for > everything and I really don't need to backup /usr/obj as it can > easily be rebuilt. > > During make installworld when it gets to the /boot section I get an > error that it cannot make a library in /usr2/obj/src..... Everything > quits at that point. My production machines do not have a /usr2 > filesystem. In order to get installworld to work I had to add a soft > link on the production server of /usr2 pointing to /usr. Then > installworld completed properly. I don't believe that link should be > needed. This sounds like a well known behaviour of buildworld/installworld. If you build on one machine and install on another then the directory structure for /usr/src and /usr/obj need to be more or less identical on both machines. In particular one needs to be very careful with either of /usr/src or /usr/obj being a symlink since it will get resolved during the build and the actual path will be embedded in several places in the built tree. The machine you install on will then use the actual paths from the build machine (/usr2/obj/... in your case) and needs to have those at the right places. This is not a new behaviour for 6.2. It has been this way for many years. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 23:13:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E24D16A400 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from iron2.sfsu.edu (iron2.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231D13C45E for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayve@sfsu.edu) Received: from smtp01.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.100]) by iron2.sfsu.edu with ESMTP; 19 May 2007 16:13:54 -0700 X-onepass: IPPSC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAM0hT0aC1Apk/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from libra.sfsu.edu ([130.212.10.238]) by mail05a.sfsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 7.0) with ESMTP id 2007051916135163-524 ; Sat, 19 May 2007 16:13:51 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 16:13:51 -0700 (PDT) From: KAYVEN RIESE To: Tom Judge In-Reply-To: <464EC759.7090200@tomjudge.com> Message-ID: References: <20070501204548.L860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <20070502040125.M860@thinkpad.dieringer.dyndns.org> <200705021458.01813.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <4638BDBC.4070805@iki.fi> <790a9fff0705021049i72979babya2cf173222dcda20@mail.gmail.com> <464EC759.7090200@tomjudge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL05a/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0|August 18, 2005) at 05/19/2007 16:13:51, Serialize by Router on SMTP01/SERVERS/SFSU(Release 7.0.2FP1HF155 | March 20, 2007) at 05/19/2007 16:13:53, Serialize complete at 05/19/2007 16:13:53 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freeBSD bugs mailing list Subject: Re: make mplayer failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:13:54 -0000 On Sat, 19 May 2007, Tom Judge wrote: > Sorry about the top post but this has nothing to do with your problem. I created this thread, and from my recollection glib was an error that happened because of attempts to install mplayer. >> here is my error message >> >> onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.12.0 atk >= 1.9.0 >> pa >> ngo >= 1.12.0 cairo >= 1.2.0) were not met: >> >> No package 'atk' found >> Requested 'cairo >= 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2 >> >> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you >> installed software in a non-standard prefix. >> >> Alternatively, you may set the environment variables >> BASE_DEPENDENCIES_CFLAGS >> and BASE_DEPENDENCIES_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. >> See the pkg-config man page for more details. >> >> ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. >> Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from >> "http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the >> problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer >> cannot >> solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at >> gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a) >> "/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.10.11/config.log", (b) the >> output >> of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it >> might >> be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your >> system >> (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website, >> copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) >> with >> the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list >> (gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are >> usually discarded by the mailing list software. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer. >> bsd@/root# find / -name gnomelogalyzer.sh >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 23:58:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBF416A400 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9083F13C43E for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.182]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A0F85C91E for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 20:58:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.182]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12608-06 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 20:58:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A72885C904 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 20:58:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D63654F; Sat, 19 May 2007 12:50:37 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 12:50:37 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: KAYVEN RIESE , Mark Linimon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> <20070517200615.GA19092@soaustin.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Craig Boston Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:58:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Saturday, May 19, 2007 01:22:40 -0700 KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 May 2007, linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) wrote: > >> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:35:10PM -0500, Craig Boston wrote: >> >> The alternative would have been to commit what we had and _then_ found >> out all the bugs in the upgrade process (note: you won't be able to just >> blindly use portupgrade -af; you will need to read the UPDATING file for >> the proper procedure. This is the unusual case of being such a sweeping >> change that the port management tools are not completely up to the task.) > > okay could this freeze an explanation for the fact that my x is totally > hosed? i know any random joe can't necessarily answer that.. but assuming > it is true.. Not sure how ... since the freeze started, I haven't seen any commits to the X system go through, or anything else for that matter (sorry, except for one port that I can't recall its name) ... I know in my case, I'm looking forward to the freeze being lifted since there was a recent release of new versions of PHP ... :) > how long is this freeze going to last then? Not 100% certain, but Kris just posted a note about the X stuff bbeing committed, so I'm guessing RSN ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGTxzN4QvfyHIvDvMRAkIqAKDAV3YQkNPIS8+XXtM13dpA7CQybgCbBhUK rxDqsrCVzL9DFQ+lLpCrSRs= =ur1s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 19 23:58:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACB916A41F for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272FC13C447 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 23:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1E985CB00 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 20:58:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09969-10 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 20:58:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F8785C928 for ; Sat, 19 May 2007 20:58:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F91135D51; Sat, 19 May 2007 18:21:37 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 18:21:36 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Chris Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0705191401k136f4747hdb1d5aa16f34f257@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aaaa3a0705170830g46487cc7occc8a51b82a9118b@mail.gmail.com> <20070517172415.06DEF45042@ptavv.es.net> <20070517183510.GB42562@nowhere> <20070517200615.GA19092@soaustin.net> <3aaaa3a0705191401k136f4747hdb1d5aa16f34f257@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, KAYVEN RIESE , Craig Boston Subject: Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:58:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Saturday, May 19, 2007 22:01:26 +0100 Chris wrote: > With the ports freeze I wonder in situations when a full freeze is > needed it is better to do so on a seperate testing branch so it allows > security commits etc. to carry on as normal and then remerge again > after testing is complete. Or is this simply not possible to do? IMHO, not impossible, but creates alot more work then the disruption of a couple of weeks without commits would justify ... you have to bear in mind, once the freeze is lifted, all of the ports that had been modified on the 'branch' would then need to be re-modified on the regular branch, putting alot of work onto the shoulders of the maintainers themselves ... - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGT2ph4QvfyHIvDvMRAjCsAJ9bMyqm63cIFsP+my+FbRjcSNSNQQCgnmbt UYmaKyCFgIc3ABhM82cTqYg= =m+LC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----