From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 9 20:22:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B85616A418 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2007 20:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barner@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6685313C428 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2007 20:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barner@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2007 19:55:56 -0000 Received: from ppp-88-217-12-144.dynamic.mnet-online.de (EHLO dose.local.invalid) [88.217.12.144] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2007 21:55:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #147403 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+mZ+o0G2OmZ8GFNj4EiC/fPKOxSkesNpBSpPv2po AJCRFCW+Nlksdq Received: by dose.local.invalid (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA07AC147; Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:55:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:55:55 +0200 From: Simon Barner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070909195555.GA1030@dose.local.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Kernel hangs if build without I486_CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:22:39 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, when I updated my 6.2-STABLE (i386) system yesterday, I noticed that the kernel would hang on startup if it was build without I486_CPU. Unfortunatelly, I did not keep my old kernel binary, but IIRC the last time I csup'ed was on June 26 2007. The reason why I am reporting the hang is the I wonder whether the change that caused the hang was intentional. I uploaded the dmesg from the updated kernel (with I486_CPU) and my kernel configuration to http://people.freebsd.org/~barner/kernelhang/ Just let me know if you need more information... --=20 Best regards / Viele Gr=FC=DFe, barner@FreeBSD.= org Simon Barner barner@gmx.de --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG5E/LCkn+/eutqCoRAum6AKDbJfdSV8pGrhJtmPYsHq/8w1JCdQCfY0Nm 6LYlyHFnQEa2t4xH0TtofGI= =3Dzo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 22:59:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E02016A419; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BD013C45D; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61422DA27; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:40:41 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: vnQJEO/FhdjNQNAyXfzLfKcT5PzYlFdxBrdIobMNeP63 1189464047 Received: from empiric.lon.incunabulum.net (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F1910ABC; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46E5C7E8.9040700@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:40:40 +0100 From: "Bruce M. Simpson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070630) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ralf S. Engelschall" References: <20070902084102.GA32985@engelschall.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902084102.GA32985@engelschall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2-STABLE panic in network multicast-address related cleanup code X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:59:21 -0000 Please try the fix I provided you with last week. BMS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 23:40:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCE016A419 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C5913C428 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 419B51CC01C; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:40:44 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070910234044.GA60903@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: dump -L on large filesystems + shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:40:44 -0000 This weekend I had a very interesting experience with gstripe(8) on RELENG_6 on amd64. Details of my setup: machine has 4 disks, connected to a standard SATA300 controller (nForce 4 chipset): ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 476940MB at ata3-master SATA300 ad8: 190782MB at ata4-master SATA150 ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master SATA300 /dev/ad8s1a 507630 66956 400064 14% / /dev/ad8s1d 16244334 87212 14857576 1% /var /dev/ad8s1e 4058062 1778 3731640 0% /tmp /dev/ad8s1f 32494668 2335866 27559230 8% /usr /dev/ad8s1g 127763620 6422 117536110 0% /home /dev/stripe/st0a 946030390 71642044 798705916 8% /storage /dev/ad10s1d 473009638 70446308 364722560 16% /backups ad4 = drive #1 in gstripe set (makes /dev/stripe/st0) ad6 = drive #2 in gstripe set (makes /dev/stripe/st0) ad8 = boot/OS drive ad10 = drive used for periodic backups (dump(8) dumps to this disk) All filesystems, except /, have softupdates enabled. I did not pick custom block sizes when newfs'ing /storage and /backups. I have a set of automated backups which run at 02:45 every day. Full level 0 backups are on Sunday, and increments 1-6 are Mon-Sat. Backups are done using the following command set: /sbin/dump -{level} -a -h0 -u -C16 -L -f- /backups/foo.{level}.dump The incident I'm about to describe happened on Sunday. I was dealing with an unrelated issue (some Ethernet problems), and I had to reboot the FreeBSD box in the process. I rebooted it using reboot(8). This was around 03:05 -- in the middle of the backups. The first thing I noticed was that the ATA "flush-to-disk" stuff was taking a long time to hit repetitions of zero (that is: 4 4 4 3 4 2 2 1 1 1 0 0 0). After a few seconds, I saw "0 1 0 1 0 1" start flying by on the screen over and over at a very fast rate, and after a few more seconds, I saw the system say "Giving up..." or something like that. Then it reboot. When the machine came back up, every filesystem on every disk was marked dirty. fsck(8) ran in the background, but took an *incredible* amount of time to complete on /dev/stripe/st0a (the gstripe set). "Incredible" means at least an hour, maybe more. I was running gstat during that time, and the gstripe set was pretty much at 100% utilisation, split 50/50 between ad4 and ad6; nothing odd there. The reason I'm mailing -stable about this is because it seems there may be some sort of "deadlock" condition which can happen when using dump -L on a system and then shutting it down. Maybe all of this points back to the ATA subsystem and how long it'll wait for buffers to be flushed to disk before actually shutting down. In my case, it obviously did not wait long enough. There don't seem to be any tunables for how long to continue trying/waiting either. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 08:04:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0651416A417 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-20-82.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.20.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813AB13C457 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8B7nEke001256 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:49:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8B7nEnK001255 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:49:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:49:14 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070911074914.GA1175@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: crash in acd_geom_detach() whilst reading vcd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:04:58 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was trying to play a VCD (using mplayer) on my 6-STABLE system and it runs for a while and then crashes. This is reproducable with the same traceback. kgdb reports: acd0: FAILURE - device detached Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =3D 0x3c8 fault code =3D supervisor read data, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xffffffff801b6489 stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffa3561ba0 frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffa3561bc0 code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D 2 (g_event) trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault KDB: stack backtrace: panic() at panic+0x1c1 trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x298 trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x243 trap() at trap+0x298 calltrap() at calltrap+0x5 --- trap 0xc, rip =3D 0xffffffff801b6489, rsp =3D 0xffffffffa3561ba0, rbp = =3D 0xffffffffa3561bc0 --- acd_geom_detach() at acd_geom_detach+0x19 g_run_events() at g_run_events+0x1b7 g_event_procbody() at g_event_procbody+0x5a fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x87 fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe A gdb backtrace shows: #6 0xffffffff803787bb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception= =2ES:168 #7 0xffffffff801b6489 in acd_geom_detach (arg=3D0xffffff00007e1100, flag= =3D0x0) at /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/atapi-cd.c:194 #8 0xffffffff8022f267 in g_run_events () at /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_event.c= :209 #9 0xffffffff802305ca in g_event_procbody () at /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_ker= n.c:141 #10 0xffffffff80254f77 in fork_exit (callout=3D0xffffffff80230570 , arg=3D0x0, frame=3D0xffffff0039dc4770) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:821 #11 0xffffffff80378b1e in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/ex= ception.S:394 The argument to acd_geom_detach() does include a NULL ivars: (kgdb) p *(device_t)0xffffff00007e1100 $2 =3D { ops =3D 0xffffff0000825000,=20 link =3D { tqe_next =3D 0xffffff00007c1c00,=20 tqe_prev =3D 0xffffff00008ea130 },=20 devlink =3D { tqe_next =3D 0xffffff00007c1c00,=20 tqe_prev =3D 0xffffff00009f1518 },=20 parent =3D 0xffffff00008ea100,=20 children =3D { tqh_first =3D 0x0,=20 tqh_last =3D 0xffffff00007e1130 },=20 driver =3D 0xffffffff80532220,=20 devclass =3D 0xffffff00007ebe00,=20 unit =3D 0x0,=20 nameunit =3D 0xffffff00009d19d0 "acd0",=20 desc =3D 0xffffff0039bd72a0 "TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L532M/HR08",=20 busy =3D 0x0,=20 state =3D DS_ATTACHED,=20 devflags =3D 0x0,=20 flags =3D 0x5d,=20 order =3D 0x0,=20 pad =3D 0x0,=20 ivars =3D 0x0,=20 softc =3D 0xffffff0000acac00,=20 sysctl_ctx =3D { tqh_first =3D 0xffffff0039bd7120,=20 tqh_last =3D 0xffffff0039bd7228 },=20 sysctl_tree =3D 0xffffff0000b30600 } (kgdb)=20 Is this behaviour expected? --=20 Peter Jeremy --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG5kh6/opHv/APuIcRAmaHAJ9tcVBLQSUG7+DPySZFQwJL4dp0NwCfeC7a b1JKKkOyj9uhTjWmXECcYG8= =rC4d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 11 16:29:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBBA16A421 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (smtprelay02.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589D613C4A3 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 19832 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2007 16:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (775067@[217.50.135.207]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay02.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Sep 2007 16:02:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:02:51 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070911180251.78498c60@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070911074914.GA1175@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20070911074914.GA1175@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_RIsH.tCy2SQwZRa8OBtsl/Q"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: crash in acd_geom_detach() whilst reading vcd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:29:37 -0000 --Sig_RIsH.tCy2SQwZRa8OBtsl/Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter Jeremy wrote: > I was trying to play a VCD (using mplayer) on my 6-STABLE system and > it runs for a while and then crashes. This is reproducable with the > same traceback. >=20 > kgdb reports: > acd0: FAILURE - device detached >=20 > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address =3D 0x3c8 > fault code =3D supervisor read data, page not present > instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xffffffff801b6489 > stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffa3561ba0 > frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffa3561bc0 > code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 > processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 > current process =3D 2 (g_event) > trap number =3D 12 > panic: page fault > KDB: stack backtrace: > panic() at panic+0x1c1 > trap_fatal() at trap_fatal+0x298 > trap_pfault() at trap_pfault+0x243 > trap() at trap+0x298 > calltrap() at calltrap+0x5 > --- trap 0xc, rip =3D 0xffffffff801b6489, rsp =3D 0xffffffffa3561ba0, rbp= =3D 0xffffffffa3561bc0 --- > acd_geom_detach() at acd_geom_detach+0x19 > g_run_events() at g_run_events+0x1b7 > g_event_procbody() at g_event_procbody+0x5a > fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x87 > fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe >=20 > A gdb backtrace shows: > #6 0xffffffff803787bb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/excepti= on.S:168 > #7 0xffffffff801b6489 in acd_geom_detach (arg=3D0xffffff00007e1100, flag= =3D0x0) at /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/atapi-cd.c:194 > #8 0xffffffff8022f267 in g_run_events () at /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_event= .c:209 > #9 0xffffffff802305ca in g_event_procbody () at /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_k= ern.c:141 > #10 0xffffffff80254f77 in fork_exit (callout=3D0xffffffff80230570 , arg=3D0x0, frame=3D0xffffff0039dc4770) > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:821 > #11 0xffffffff80378b1e in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/= exception.S:394 >=20 > The argument to acd_geom_detach() does include a NULL ivars: > (kgdb) p *(device_t)0xffffff00007e1100 > $2 =3D { > ops =3D 0xffffff0000825000,=20 > link =3D { > tqe_next =3D 0xffffff00007c1c00,=20 > tqe_prev =3D 0xffffff00008ea130 > },=20 > devlink =3D { > tqe_next =3D 0xffffff00007c1c00,=20 > tqe_prev =3D 0xffffff00009f1518 > },=20 > parent =3D 0xffffff00008ea100,=20 > children =3D { > tqh_first =3D 0x0,=20 > tqh_last =3D 0xffffff00007e1130 > },=20 > driver =3D 0xffffffff80532220,=20 > devclass =3D 0xffffff00007ebe00,=20 > unit =3D 0x0,=20 > nameunit =3D 0xffffff00009d19d0 "acd0",=20 > desc =3D 0xffffff0039bd72a0 "TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-L532M/HR08",=20 > busy =3D 0x0,=20 > state =3D DS_ATTACHED,=20 > devflags =3D 0x0,=20 > flags =3D 0x5d,=20 > order =3D 0x0,=20 > pad =3D 0x0,=20 > ivars =3D 0x0,=20 > softc =3D 0xffffff0000acac00,=20 > sysctl_ctx =3D { > tqh_first =3D 0xffffff0039bd7120,=20 > tqh_last =3D 0xffffff0039bd7228 > },=20 > sysctl_tree =3D 0xffffff0000b30600 > } > (kgdb)=20 >=20 > Is this behaviour expected? I think you're running into the same problem I reported in "kern/99017: [ata] [patch] FreeBSD versions above 5.3 panic if atapi drives become unresponsive": http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/99017 You could try the work-around, but your drive will probably still be lost until the next reboot. Fabian --Sig_RIsH.tCy2SQwZRa8OBtsl/Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG5rwrBYqIVf93VJ0RAgYLAJ4v4XqLP31cv/uxsGP7xGhx9YcdJgCgiXBk IFAHdmJsb9fNkFGAfDRxoWU= =BKBr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_RIsH.tCy2SQwZRa8OBtsl/Q-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 07:08:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E5016A41A for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eraser95@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF0113C469 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eraser95@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so145057mue for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:08:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=L1ZPkC7WqJzj+kGHTFW2RxK23b4+TG82B1kN1BNf3+o=; b=e71sXtHcqQYBoCZTRb+rLN7lPm1z/uuCL9QYDagEsQF/gYrov8NpXSQxpzTAwE2IjUPDR0n9FhUS43DEXEqrNym7+IzI4KMaoRJVQtinIHu5040naf7RHNjXQzRHGblRsNNBHUgXfAgfREjbuoOJ4meNyLxSthvQBAqvJVRccsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=f4wUaTCmr7LQzPznxs5s7h0GmWp7ZQKyPzRrjUOC815PiBGB89+S1anfTCKSN28D6VmWvJ6LmS9cOzFV2VeTwmdOfFCOtobp15KrWoxXYNXaFa3s60bhGVZjIYpEpSjojMBsbaFJnLAe5of7mYBSHfNEcfzY99fNCXChN0aKHiQ= Received: by 10.86.49.13 with SMTP id w13mr5165547fgw.1189579276445; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.58.20 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:41:16 -0700 From: "Minseok Choi" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Via padlock X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:08:30 -0000 I found out from googling that VIA Padlock would be supported in FreeBSD 6.2. But I don't know how to activate it. Is there any kernel configuration or specific application for the Padlock? If you have any idea about this issue, let me know. Currently I am using VIA Epia SP13000, which has Nehemiah CPU with RNG, AES support. Thanks, Minseok Choi From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 08:15:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAA116A41B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D00313C45A for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp121-45-93-75.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net [121.45.93.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8C8FF1V016033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:45:19 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:44:51 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1424536.x5yIejRLNz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709121745.00808.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Minseok Choi Subject: Re: Via padlock X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:15:26 -0000 --nextPart1424536.x5yIejRLNz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Minseok Choi wrote: > I found out from googling that VIA Padlock would be supported in > FreeBSD 6.2. > > But I don't know how to activate it. > Is there any kernel configuration or specific application for the > Padlock? > > If you have any idea about this issue, let me know. > Currently I am using VIA Epia SP13000, which has Nehemiah CPU with > RNG, AES support. It appears the man page is missing, but putting=20 device crypto device padlock in your kernel should work. In 7.0 it's a module. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1424536.x5yIejRLNz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBG56AE5ZPcIHs/zowRAq8vAKCIv1Di2I+vaZfwclEPi9Pk/F2DvgCgqb0s /NGaFRm7rna+5cAyjKWw+tA= =zB0U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1424536.x5yIejRLNz-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 13:27:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1320A16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEBB13C457 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8CD0uQj006673 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:00:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l8CD0pqu006672 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:00:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:00:50 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070912130050.GB6327@wjv.com> References: <20070912120015.3113216A4E7@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070912120015.3113216A4E7@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: problems with 'periodic' in 4.11 p-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:27:14 -0000 I just updated a 4.11 machine to patch level 24. Somehow I had overlooked that machine earlier as it's so stable and only is handling web pages, secondary dns and secondary mail. I've checked everthing I can think of but now all the scripts that are run from the root crontab - with the user of 'root' as shipped in the distrubution now give me error messages. The messages are from the atrun daemon. Here is the message I'm getting just as I bounced it to this account. Theone difference I see in this is that the Subject line when viewed in mutt on the original machine has root?/usr/libexec/atrun. ---------------------------------- Message-Id: <200709121250.l8CCo0fB051558@iserv.wanlogistics.net> From: root@iserv.wanlogistics.net (Cron Daemon) To: root@iserv.wanlogistics.net Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-UIDL: EO^"!?>h"!Y(@"!+&N"! root: not found ---------------------------------- I've checked everywhere I can think of. I've even added the MAILTO line in the crontab with an FQDN address. That didn't help either. It must be something simple I've overlooked or else I'd have seen reports of this before. The cvsup is only for the RELEASE - so nothing is there that would be added after the last security update to that last year. I'm sorry this is so late in time frame of 4.11 - but as I said - for some reason this is one server I inadvertantly overlooked. Normally the OS gets updated the day any security changes are made. Thanks Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 14:06:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B0916A418 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFF913C45A for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8CDs6QA083270; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:54:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8CDs1XG083269; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:54:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200709121354.l8CDs1XG083269@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Minseok Choi , doconnor@gsoft.com.au In-Reply-To: <200709121745.00808.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:54:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Via padlock X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Minseok Choi , doconnor@gsoft.com.au List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:06:12 -0000 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Minseok Choi wrote: > > I found out from googling that VIA Padlock would be supported in > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > But I don't know how to activate it. > > Is there any kernel configuration or specific application for the > > Padlock? > > It appears the man page is missing, but putting > device crypto > device padlock > > in your kernel should work. > > In 7.0 it's a module. It's a module in 6.x, too. I have the following line in /boot/loader.conf on my RELENG_6 machine (VIA C3): padlock_load="YES" So there's no need to modify your kernel. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing."         -- Mother Teresa From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 20:56:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CC716A41B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andpet@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B9013C459 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andpet@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (81.233.14.209) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.075) (authenticated as u30405151) id 46E70F3500049DF0 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:47:06 +0200 Message-ID: <46E841D1.3020002@telia.com> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:45:21 +0200 From: Andreas Pettersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:56:25 -0000 When looking in the querylog for BIND 9.3.1 running on FreeBSD 5.4, almost every other log entry specifies an AAAA query. The only client is localhost. I see no reason right now to have BIND wasting resources on IPv6 requests, so I added named_flags="-4" to rc.conf and restarted named. Sockstat tells me named is listening only on udp4 and tcp4, but I still get lots of AAAA entries in the querylog: 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.129 client 127.0.0.1#60103: query: smtp.secureserver.net IN AAAA + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.648 client 127.0.0.1#64489: query: smtp.where.secureserver.net IN AAAA + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.847 client 127.0.0.1#61673: query: smtp.secureserver.net IN A + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.869 client 127.0.0.1#53040: query: mailstore1.secureserver.net IN AAAA + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.871 client 127.0.0.1#54473: query: mailstore1.secureserver.net IN A + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.261 client 127.0.0.1#58124: query: 120.86.248.87.in-addr.arpa IN PTR + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.340 client 127.0.0.1#56511: query: static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN AAAA + 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.410 client 127.0.0.1#61212: query: static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN A + What can I do to get rid of these? -- Andreas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 22:00:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A898E16A41A for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A86113C45B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from dslb-088-066-021-171.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.66.21.171] (helo=amd64.laiers.local) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1IVa4D2bkq-0006vT; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:48:13 +0200 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:47:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46E841D1.3020002@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <46E841D1.3020002@telia.com> X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5312504.Mh0Yq2qTPc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709122348.11991.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX191P7EeGyLWKMCt7js0EVLbJYh0caQegCECo7j R++rnxoO8QXGWlA1s7+smY+VGhizlQ1xCIMnINYrULKtSsgK2w zHfWBPAW/HxkjRcXRgBD/ncl7SM8rGm09XzuwJ+qc8= Cc: Andreas Pettersson Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:00:51 -0000 --nextPart5312504.Mh0Yq2qTPc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 12 September 2007, Andreas Pettersson wrote: > When looking in the querylog for BIND 9.3.1 running on FreeBSD 5.4, > almost every other log entry specifies an AAAA query. The only client > is localhost. I see no reason right now to have BIND wasting resources > on IPv6 requests, so I added > > named_flags=3D"-4" > > to rc.conf and restarted named. Sockstat tells me named is listening > only on udp4 and tcp4, but I still get lots of AAAA entries in the > querylog: =2E.. > What can I do to get rid of these? Change your resolver. The name*server* can nothing do about what the=20 *client* asks of them. The fact that you connect to a nameserver via=20 IPv4 says nothing about what kind of queries you want to send to it. At=20 the moment you can't change the behavior of the resolver in libc and (as=20 far as I know) that of the isc implementation either. There has been a=20 discussion to provide a environment variable to emit only IPv4 queries,=20 though. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart5312504.Mh0Yq2qTPc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBG6F6bXyyEoT62BG0RAl8gAJ9Y3lohPtaiP/i259nRLBsXAnnqpQCcC6eD P1IC7lLq4/ws558afifH1l0= =Yjew -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5312504.Mh0Yq2qTPc-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 22:03:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D8B16A46B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2646D13C459 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0D09C1CC06E; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:03:53 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Andreas Pettersson Message-ID: <20070912220352.GA32794@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Pettersson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <46E841D1.3020002@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46E841D1.3020002@telia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:03:53 -0000 On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:45:21PM +0200, Andreas Pettersson wrote: > When looking in the querylog for BIND 9.3.1 running on FreeBSD 5.4, almost > every other log entry specifies an AAAA query. The only client is > localhost. I see no reason right now to have BIND wasting resources on IPv6 > requests, so I added > > named_flags="-4" > > to rc.conf and restarted named. Sockstat tells me named is listening only > on udp4 and tcp4, but I still get lots of AAAA entries in the querylog: > > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.129 client 127.0.0.1#60103: query: > smtp.secureserver.net IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.648 client 127.0.0.1#64489: query: > smtp.where.secureserver.net IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.847 client 127.0.0.1#61673: query: > smtp.secureserver.net IN A + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.869 client 127.0.0.1#53040: query: > mailstore1.secureserver.net IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.871 client 127.0.0.1#54473: query: > mailstore1.secureserver.net IN A + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.261 client 127.0.0.1#58124: query: > 120.86.248.87.in-addr.arpa IN PTR + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.340 client 127.0.0.1#56511: query: > static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.410 client 127.0.0.1#61212: query: > static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN A + > > What can I do to get rid of these? I'm not sure you can. This is how I understand it: The -4 switch just tells BIND, as a daemon, to only bind to/utilise IPv4 interfaces on your system. That means named -4 will only listen on IPv4 addresses (e.g. 127.0.0.1) and not things like ::1. That's completely separate from what *DNS records* BIND will see queries for -- you have no control over those. People can ask you for any type of DNS record (A, AAAA, MX, CNAME, NS, TXT, whatever...) and your daemon will respond for things it's authoritative for (or do recursive queries if configured to do so). In English: -4 won't completely remove IPv6-specific zone data/capability from BIND, it'll just cause the actual daemon to not bind to an IPv6 interface. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 12 22:56:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA90516A417 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8527513C45B for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8CMuVLx004978; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:56:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200709122256.l8CMuVLx004978@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Andreas Pettersson From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:45:21 +0200." <46E841D1.3020002@telia.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:56:31 +1000 Sender: marka@isc.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:56:33 -0000 > When looking in the querylog for BIND 9.3.1 running on FreeBSD 5.4, > almost every other log entry specifies an AAAA query. The only client is > localhost. I see no reason right now to have BIND wasting resources on > IPv6 requests, so I added > > named_flags="-4" > > to rc.conf and restarted named. Sockstat tells me named is listening > only on udp4 and tcp4, but I still get lots of AAAA entries in the querylog: > > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.129 client 127.0.0.1#60103: query: > smtp.secureserver.net IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.648 client 127.0.0.1#64489: query: > smtp.where.secureserver.net IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.847 client 127.0.0.1#61673: query: > smtp.secureserver.net IN A + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.869 client 127.0.0.1#53040: query: > mailstore1.secureserver.net IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.871 client 127.0.0.1#54473: query: > mailstore1.secureserver.net IN A + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.261 client 127.0.0.1#58124: query: > 120.86.248.87.in-addr.arpa IN PTR + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.340 client 127.0.0.1#56511: query: > static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN AAAA + > 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.410 client 127.0.0.1#61212: query: > static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN A + > > What can I do to get rid of these? Teach each and every application not to make them. :-) -4 stops named *making* and accepting queries *over* IPv6. It does NOT stop it accepting AAAA queries. It does NOT stop it making AAAA queries. Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 only (new IPv4 address space is running out real soon now). Running dual stacked now is how you debug you system. If you ISP doesn't yet offer IPv6 natively there are lots of alternate method. 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Details are at http://mesengg.ac.in/icist2007.htm From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 01:30:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9589B16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C2513C46B for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8D1U5Q8051241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:00:06 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Minseok Choi Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:59:52 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709121354.l8CDs1XG083269@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200709121354.l8CDs1XG083269@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1958367.Rxm4lqaXhl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709131100.03782.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Subject: Re: Via padlock X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:30:08 -0000 --nextPart1958367.Rxm4lqaXhl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Oliver Fromme wrote: > padlock_load=3D"YES" > > So there's no need to modify your kernel. I just realised that I checked and amd64 6.2 machine and an=20 i386 -current machine, hence my confusion :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1958367.Rxm4lqaXhl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBG6JKb5ZPcIHs/zowRApnGAJ95JYqx5WVKp8lrMWl1ZkS0SO68PgCfdPew bM+e5HVbQqvgobe8vWK869s= =9b1K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1958367.Rxm4lqaXhl-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 05:42:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DCE16A419 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andris@grese.net) Received: from ghost.grese.net (ghost.grese.net [193.111.247.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D44F13C467 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andris@grese.net) Received: from sugar.optron.lv ([217.28.48.254]:6412 helo=andris) by ghost.grese.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IVhHO-00021h-FX for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:30:19 +0300 From: "Andris" To: References: <20070909195555.GA1030@dose.local.invalid> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:29:58 +0300 Organization: GreSe IK Message-ID: <01ee01c7f5c7$2bc7a630$1500a8c0@optron.lv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcfzH0AzuVjS4r4nTaKhNnX/hxy/twCpx7zg In-Reply-To: <20070909195555.GA1030@dose.local.invalid> X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_bar: ---- Subject: RE: Kernel hangs if build without I486_CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: andris@grese.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:42:04 -0000 Hi, I have the same problem, but in my case it was not I486_CPU, but = SCHED_ULE. After changing SCHED_ULE to SCHED_4BSD problem was gone. Andris -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Simon Barner Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 10:56 PM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel hangs if build without I486_CPU Hello, when I updated my 6.2-STABLE (i386) system yesterday, I noticed that the kernel would hang on startup if it was build without I486_CPU. Unfortunatelly, I did not keep my old kernel binary, but IIRC the last time I csup'ed was on June 26 2007. The reason why I am reporting the hang is the I wonder whether the change that caused the hang was intentional. I uploaded the dmesg from the updated kernel (with I486_CPU) and my kernel configuration to http://people.freebsd.org/~barner/kernelhang/ Just let me know if you need more information... --=20 Best regards / Viele Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, = barner@FreeBSD.org Simon Barner = barner@gmx.de From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 08:26:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB9B16A421 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E016E13C491 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8D8PLZD025220; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:25:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8D8PI9h025219; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:25:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:25:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200709130825.l8D8PI9h025219@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, andris@grese.net In-Reply-To: <01ee01c7f5c7$2bc7a630$1500a8c0@optron.lv> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel hangs if build without I486_CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, andris@grese.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:26:43 -0000 Andris wrote: > I have the same problem, but in my case it was not I486_CPU, but SCHED_ULE. > After changing SCHED_ULE to SCHED_4BSD problem was gone. If you shot your foot, don't complain that it hurts. SCHED_ULE is declared "experimental" and known to be broken in FreeBSD 6. It's supposed to be fixed in 7-current. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "The most important decision in [programming] language design concerns what is to be left out." -- Niklaus Wirth From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 12:27:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3611616A41B for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F8913C45E for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8DCQr0k018160; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:26:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l8DCQmYa018159; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:26:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:26:48 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Luke Hollins Message-ID: <20070913122648.GA18092@wjv.com> References: <20070912120015.3113216A4E7@hub.freebsd.org> <20070912130050.GB6327@wjv.com> <46E91014.2080908@zer0.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46E91014.2080908@zer0.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with 'periodic' in 4.11 p-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:27:44 -0000 On or about Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:25 , while attempting a Zarathustra emulation Luke Hollins thus spake: > Can you post your crontab? Maybe one line has the username twice . Boy - that was the hint that helped me find the problem. How I did this I do not know, but the /etc/crontab was duplicated in /var/cron/tabs/root. That was why the 'root: not found' message occured as the normal cron doesn't use that. I still don't know how I did this - particularly after admining FreeBSD systems since 1995. Maybe I did it in my sleep. But thanks for the comment as that put me on the correct track. Bill > > Bill Vermillion wrote: > > I just updated a 4.11 machine to patch level 24. Somehow I had > > overlooked that machine earlier as it's so stable and only > > is handling web pages, secondary dns and secondary mail. > > > > I've checked everthing I can think of but now all the scripts > > that are run from the root crontab - with the user of 'root' as > > shipped in the distrubution now give me error messages. > > > > The messages are from the atrun daemon. > > > > Here is the message I'm getting just as I bounced it to this > > account. > > > > Theone difference I see in this is that the Subject line > > when viewed in mutt on the original machine has > > root?/usr/libexec/atrun. > > > > ---------------------------------- > > Message-Id: <200709121250.l8CCo0fB051558@iserv.wanlogistics.net> > > From: root@iserv.wanlogistics.net (Cron Daemon) > > To: root@iserv.wanlogistics.net > > Subject: Cron root /usr/libexec/atrun > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-Cron-Env: > > X-UIDL: EO^"!?>h"!Y(@"!+&N"! > > > > root: not found > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > I've checked everywhere I can think of. I've even added > > the MAILTO line in the crontab with an FQDN address. That didn't > > help either. > > > > It must be something simple I've overlooked or else I'd have seen > > reports of this before. > > > > The cvsup is only for the RELEASE - so nothing is there that > > would be added after the last security update to that last year. > > > > I'm sorry this is so late in time frame of 4.11 - but as I said - > > for some reason this is one server I inadvertantly overlooked. > > Normally the OS gets updated the day any security changes are made. > > > > Thanks > > > > Bill > > > > > -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 14:53:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455E916A420 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: from bart.milos.co.za (bart.milos.co.za [196.38.18.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550B813C481 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clay@milos.co.za) Received: (qmail 665 invoked by uid 89); 13 Sep 2007 14:53:05 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 659, pid: 661, t: 2.6524s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.88.7/m:44/d:4232 Received: from unknown (HELO claylaptop) (clay@milos.za.net@84.203.141.221) by bart.milos.co.za with ESMTPA; 13 Sep 2007 14:53:02 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c7f615$c6fbdf10$dd8dcb54@claylaptop> From: "Clayton Milos" To: References: <20070912120015.3113216A4E7@hub.freebsd.org><20070912130050.GB6327@wjv.com> <46E91014.2080908@zer0.net> <20070913122648.GA18092@wjv.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:54:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Subject: Re: problems with 'periodic' in 4.11 p-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:53:10 -0000 > On or about Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:25 , while attempting a > Zarathustra emulation Luke Hollins thus spake: > >> Can you post your crontab? Maybe one line has the username twice . > > Boy - that was the hint that helped me find the problem. > > How I did this I do not know, but the /etc/crontab was > duplicated in /var/cron/tabs/root. > > That was why the 'root: not found' message occured as the > normal cron doesn't use that. > > I still don't know how I did this - particularly after admining > FreeBSD systems since 1995. > > Maybe I did it in my sleep. > > But thanks for the comment as that put me on the correct track. > > Bill >> I have done strange things sysadmining under the influence of alcohol. Once I even changed my BIOS password under the influence and it took me half an hour to figure out what I set it to. I know it can be reset with a jumper but the hangover was suppressing that possibility too ;-) -Clay From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 18:27:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A7516A417 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andpet@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF0D13C465 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andpet@telia.com) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (81.233.14.209) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.075) (authenticated as u30405151) id 46CA7CD2006A40E9; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:18:38 +0200 Message-ID: <46E97100.8060703@telia.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:18:56 +0200 From: Andreas Pettersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Andrews References: <200709122256.l8CMuVLx004978@drugs.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: <200709122256.l8CMuVLx004978@drugs.dv.isc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:27:56 -0000 Mark Andrews wrote: >> When looking in the querylog for BIND 9.3.1 running on FreeBSD 5.4, >> almost every other log entry specifies an AAAA query. The only client is >> localhost. I see no reason right now to have BIND wasting resources on >> IPv6 requests, so I added >> >> named_flags="-4" >> >> to rc.conf and restarted named. Sockstat tells me named is listening >> only on udp4 and tcp4, but I still get lots of AAAA entries in the querylog: >> >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.129 client 127.0.0.1#60103: query: >> smtp.secureserver.net IN AAAA + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.648 client 127.0.0.1#64489: query: >> smtp.where.secureserver.net IN AAAA + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.847 client 127.0.0.1#61673: query: >> smtp.secureserver.net IN A + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.869 client 127.0.0.1#53040: query: >> mailstore1.secureserver.net IN AAAA + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:47.871 client 127.0.0.1#54473: query: >> mailstore1.secureserver.net IN A + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.261 client 127.0.0.1#58124: query: >> 120.86.248.87.in-addr.arpa IN PTR + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.340 client 127.0.0.1#56511: query: >> static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN AAAA + >> 12-Sep-2007 21:40:58.410 client 127.0.0.1#61212: query: >> static-ip-87-248-86-120.promax.media.pl IN A + >> >> What can I do to get rid of these? >> > > Teach each and every application not to make them. :-) > Thanks to everyone who has answered. As soon as I read the first sentence in Max's reply I realized the issue, and I might now have reconsidered my "problem" as a "no problem" :-) > [snip] > Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 > connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to > reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 > only For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? -- Andreas From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 19:11:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0116E16A420 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phi@evilphi.com) Received: from mail.twinthornes.com (mail.twinthornes.com [65.75.198.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C015F13C45D for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phi@evilphi.com) Received: from [10.9.70.101] (pool-71-117-232-141.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.117.232.141]) by mail.twinthornes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72137EF; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46E98B72.3040507@evilphi.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:11:46 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Pettersson References: <200709122256.l8CMuVLx004978@drugs.dv.isc.org> <46E97100.8060703@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <46E97100.8060703@telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:11:56 -0000 Andreas Pettersson wrote: > Mark Andrews wrote: >> Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 >> connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to >> reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 >> only > > For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, > but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has > happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling > for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, > but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the real world still runs on IPv4. The mitigating factors are IPv4 address space pressure and global routing problems. Every time enough people start crying about too little IPv4 address space left, IANA reassigns more reserved space into the allocation pool and those fussing grow quiet. As for global routing, it can be summed as: it ain't broken enough, yet. It's going to be years before there is a real, sustained pressure to migrate significant portions of the commercial internet into IPv6 space and years more for enough key-player migration to drag the rest of the commercial world with it. The academic and research portions of the internet are not the driving force. Convince MSN, AOL, Yahoo, Comcast, $BIG_NATIONAL_ISP, etc. to deploy IPv6 and we'll get wide-spread global IPv6 deployment overnight. I'll put it this way: When my Linksys WRT54G supports IPv6 on both sides of the router, IPv6 will have reached commercial viability. Until then, it's a research exercise. -- Darren Pilgrim From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 13 23:15:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67F316A420 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516BF13C480 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8DNFPoZ049902; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:15:25 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200709132315.l8DNFPoZ049902@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Darren Pilgrim From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:11:46 MST." <46E98B72.3040507@evilphi.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:15:25 +1000 Sender: marka@isc.org Cc: Andreas Pettersson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:15:35 -0000 > Andreas Pettersson wrote: > > Mark Andrews wrote: > >> Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 > >> connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to > >> reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 > >> only > > > > For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, > > but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has > > happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling > > for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, > > but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? > > The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for > the last several years. There is yet no significant commercial > deployment--the real world still runs on IPv4. > > The mitigating factors are IPv4 address space pressure and global > routing problems. Every time enough people start crying about too > little IPv4 address space left, IANA reassigns more reserved space into > the allocation pool and those fussing grow quiet. As for global > routing, it can be summed as: it ain't broken enough, yet. It's going > to be years before there is a real, sustained pressure to migrate > significant portions of the commercial internet into IPv6 space and > years more for enough key-player migration to drag the rest of the > commercial world with it. > > The academic and research portions of the internet are not the driving > force. Convince MSN, AOL, Yahoo, Comcast, $BIG_NATIONAL_ISP, etc. to > deploy IPv6 and we'll get wide-spread global IPv6 deployment overnight. > > I'll put it this way: When my Linksys WRT54G supports IPv6 on both sides > of the router, IPv6 will have reached commercial viability. Until then, > it's a research exercise. Apple's Airport enables IPv6 support by default today. If you plug it in and you have a IPv6 enabled host it will get a globally addressable IPv6 address. There are roughly 3 billion unicast IPv4 addresses. We need to address more than 3 billion machines. Even with NAT and double NAT we will run out of address. DOCCIS 3.0 does its management over IPv6. The big cable providers are moving to IPv6 today even if they arn't supplying IPv6 to the customers yet. Mark > -- > Darren Pilgrim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 00:46:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EA916A41B for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D90513C465 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 53477 invoked by uid 0); 14 Sep 2007 00:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Sep 2007 00:20:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:19:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@gee5.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: Darren Pilgrim In-Reply-To: <46E98B72.3040507@evilphi.com> Message-ID: References: <200709122256.l8CMuVLx004978@drugs.dv.isc.org> <46E97100.8060703@telia.com> <46E98B72.3040507@evilphi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Andreas Pettersson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:46:50 -0000 On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Andreas Pettersson wrote: >> Mark Andrews wrote: >>> Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 >>> connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to >>> reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 >>> only >> >> For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, but >> from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of >> course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things >> might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any >> clear signs pointing in this direction? > > The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the > last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the > real world still runs on IPv4. Just adding another "real world" datapoint... I'd love to get my hands dirty with IPv6. I contacted both of our upstreams, Level3 and HE.net. Level3 never responded, if anyone has details on what their deal is, please share (offlist). HE.net wanted both more money and for us to order another port with them. For the 0.0001% of our users that have expressed interest in v6 connectivity, we're not going to pay for another FE port just to experiment. I'm sure most other Tier-2 local/regional ISPs feel the same way. If there were a free and "best effort" service offered by any of our upstreams though, I'd jump at it. My buddy Ike over at NYCBUG does have a bunch of pictures of cheap consumer IPv6 home routers from his trip to Japan. Apparently it's quite widespread there. Charles > -- > Darren Pilgrim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 01:21:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD8916A41A for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:820:214:22ff:fed9:fbdc]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E7513C468 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8E1LHjO058152; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:21:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@drugs.dv.isc.org) Message-Id: <200709140121.l8E1LHjO058152@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: Charles Sprickman From: Mark Andrews In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:19:41 -0400." Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:21:17 +1000 Sender: marka@isc.org Cc: Darren Pilgrim , Andreas Pettersson , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:21:28 -0000 > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > > > Andreas Pettersson wrote: > >> Mark Andrews wrote: > >>> Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 > >>> connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to > >>> reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 > >>> only > >> > >> For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, bu > t > >> from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has happened. Of > > >> course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling for real things > >> might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, but are there any > >> clear signs pointing in this direction? > > > > The proponents of IPv6 have claimed growing real-world deployment for the > > last several years. There is yet no significant commercial deployment--the > > > real world still runs on IPv4. > > Just adding another "real world" datapoint... I'd love to get my hands > dirty with IPv6. I contacted both of our upstreams, Level3 and HE.net. > > Level3 never responded, if anyone has details on what their deal is, > please share (offlist). > > HE.net wanted both more money and for us to order another port with them. HE claim they are now dual stacked. You shouldn't need a second port. > For the 0.0001% of our users that have expressed interest in v6 > connectivity, we're not going to pay for another FE port just to > experiment. I'm sure most other Tier-2 local/regional ISPs feel the same > way. > > If there were a free and "best effort" service offered by any of our > upstreams though, I'd jump at it. > > My buddy Ike over at NYCBUG does have a bunch of pictures of cheap > consumer IPv6 home routers from his trip to Japan. Apparently it's quite > widespread there. > > Charles > > > -- > > Darren Pilgrim > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews@isc.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 02:24:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB41316A41A for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B3E13C457 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id MAA13311; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:23:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:23:47 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Andreas Pettersson In-Reply-To: <46E97100.8060703@telia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Mark Andrews , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:24:07 -0000 On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Andreas Pettersson wrote: > > [snip] > > Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 > > connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to > > reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 > > only > > For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, > but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has > happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling > for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, > but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? eg: http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html http://www.circleid.com/posts/transition_to_ipv6_address/ http://www.circleid.com/posts/ipv6_extinction_evolution_or_revolution/ Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 07:01:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B41C16A41A for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from omega.omnis.ch (omega.omnis.ch [195.134.143.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1B6B13C48D for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: (qmail 8961 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2007 06:34:58 -0000 Received: from 195.134.148.35 ([195.134.148.35]) by omega.omnis.ch ([195.134.143.43]) with ESMTP via TCP; 14 Sep 2007 06:34:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <66290519-F221-4AF5-BA05-2EC92CC746D6@omx.ch> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Olivier Mueller Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:34:58 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: kuriyama@FreeBSD.org Subject: net-snmpd/ucd-snmp: issues under FreeBSD 6.2 amd64 ? (physmem: Cannot allocate memory) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:01:40 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to start net-snmpd or ucd-snmp on a brand new amd64-system (hp dl360g5, 4GB ram, dual xeon), and all I get is the message: Sep 14 08:11:02 db3 snmpd[64634]: sysctl: physmem: Cannot allocate memory on start with net-snmpd, and this with ucd-snmpd: [root@db3 ~]# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/snmpd start Starting snmpd. nlist err: neither nproc nor _nproc found. sysctl: physmem: Cannot allocate memory nlist err: neither total nor _total found. nlist err: neither proc nor _proc found. improper port specification /var/run/snmpd.pid Server Exiting with code 1 [root@db3 ~]# sysctl -a |grep physmem hw.physmem: 4281905152 I have no problems like that with snmpd on other servers, but they are all running an i386-version of Freebsd: problem seems related to amd64 ? There are some posts, all still without answers, about this problem on the same platform: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/ 2004-11/2994.html http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/ 2004-11/1375.html etc. Any suggestion? I'd be glad to help solving this problem, if possible... regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 07:32:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8CD16A473 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis.melentyev@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01FD13C4DB for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennis.melentyev@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so661089wxd for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Leiq74F81q2Bo4kyhhOSwuFdVC53rvJSXrxpwc39Or4=; b=WsRXjQlggmMFxyP1tAqtxgD2qv9aN+SVkgFUJuMCE2fQCK8Gpy2kGzmh0m5y1Nn4Z8zk6IIMo3baTSAO+ZnoCHBsn50/i4SeUDkQlRMPcvnZ28sWmNy9wv1e15p1AyCBEoNTyroxVPl4Pp05aLG0T7gmZZCGYoZQqLUh76gDgCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AIxj+WELbZiF95tAgCcE0EDzPAf43t7eGjFUFBc7Oci9qI+oKexK4ai+EsNH704NE8iojyb4wD1wlQkeXLMzmKmEeoz6lbRPzJm79AU4m+rm4fu/K77lcpd19L2GyL+F2RlbSm8iBUGWIE/18aG1K/GQ8dEdftPEzQaxVzUOAF8= Received: by 10.90.25.3 with SMTP id 3mr22901agy.1189753601204; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.36.19 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:06:41 +0300 From: "Dennis Melentyev" To: "Ian Smith" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46E97100.8060703@telia.com> Cc: Andreas Pettersson , Mark Andrews , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND 9.3.1 - How to get rid of AAAA querys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:32:36 -0000 Hi Ian, 2007/9/14, Ian Smith : > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Andreas Pettersson wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > Why don't you go the other way and get yourself IPv6 > > > connectivity. You do realise that you will require it to > > > reach many sites in about 3 years time as they will be IPv6 > > > only > > > > For almost 10 years I've heard discussions about the successor to IPv4, > > but from my point of view (may differ from others..) not much has > > happened. Of course, I can imagine that when the wheel starts rolling > > for real things might change quickly. 3 years may prove to be correct, > > but are there any clear signs pointing in this direction? > > eg: > > http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/index.html > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/transition_to_ipv6_address/ > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/ipv6_extinction_evolution_or_revolution/ Nice readings! Thanks for the links! -- Dennis Melentyev From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 20:44:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC05116A418 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@web-tricks.net) Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BE913C45B for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@web-tricks.net) Received: from c-76-114-16-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([76.114.16.133] helo=dragon) by smtp2.abac.com with esmtpa id 1IWHjz-000Cse-JM for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> From: "Jon" To: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:26:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Subject: Freebsd.org is down X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:44:29 -0000 Check the freebsd-questions list for more info From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 20:55:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFE016A46B for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::214d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C70413C474 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1IWIAE-000OXV-B2; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:53:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:53:22 -0400 From: Gary Palmer To: Jon Message-ID: <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd.org is down X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:55:13 -0000 On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:26:33PM -0700, Jon wrote: > Check the freebsd-questions list for more info For those, like me, who are not subscribed to freebsd-questions, the list archives can be accessed at: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-September/thread.html#158022 That URL appears to still be answering presently. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 21:02:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E0F16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614E013C468 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 455BB1CC06E; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:02:09 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070914210209.GA44487@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jon , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Subject: Re: Freebsd.org is down X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:02:09 -0000 On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 04:53:22PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:26:33PM -0700, Jon wrote: > > Check the freebsd-questions list for more info > > For those, like me, who are not subscribed to freebsd-questions, > the list archives can be accessed at: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-September/thread.html#158022 > > That URL appears to still be answering presently. I'm betting it's two different boxes. $ host lists.freebsd.org lists.freebsd.org has address 69.147.83.38 lists.freebsd.org mail is handled by 0 . $ host www.freebsd.org www.freebsd.org has address 69.147.83.33 www.freebsd.org has IPv6 address 2001:4f8:fff6::21 www.freebsd.org mail is handled by 0 . -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 21:07:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8B16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAC613C45E for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 15527 invoked by uid 0); 14 Sep 2007 21:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (spork@216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Sep 2007 21:07:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:06:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@hotlap.local To: Gary Palmer In-Reply-To: <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> Message-ID: References: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd.org is down X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:07:18 -0000 On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Gary Palmer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:26:33PM -0700, Jon wrote: >> Check the freebsd-questions list for more info > > For those, like me, who are not subscribed to freebsd-questions, > the list archives can be accessed at: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-September/thread.html#158022 I'll save you all some trouble... The thread basically consists of people noting that it does not work. That's pretty much it. There's no post yet stating what the trouble is or what the ETR is. Of note is that portaudit relies on www.freebsd.org being up to fetch it's info. Charles > That URL appears to still be answering presently. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 21:17:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8615716A419; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CDA13C458; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46EAFA59.5070008@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:17:13 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Sprickman References: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd.org is down X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:17:15 -0000 Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Gary Palmer wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:26:33PM -0700, Jon wrote: >>> Check the freebsd-questions list for more info >> >> For those, like me, who are not subscribed to freebsd-questions, >> the list archives can be accessed at: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-September/thread.html#158022 >> > > I'll save you all some trouble... The thread basically consists of > people noting that it does not work. That's pretty much it. There's no > post yet stating what the trouble is or what the ETR is. > > Of note is that portaudit relies on www.freebsd.org being up to fetch > it's info. > > Charles That machine has been having hardware trouble for a while now, it's probably just more of the same. Kris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 21:20:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DD416A419; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:ffff::121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB98C13C467; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l8ELHjhB042131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:17:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from localhost (jhary@localhost) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) with ESMTP id l8ELHjCl042128; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:17:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:17:45 +0100 (BST) From: Vince Hoffman To: Charles Sprickman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070914221336.G41781@unsane.co.uk> References: <004c01c7f70d$8aacbb80$dedca8c0@dragon> <20070914205322.GA927@in-addr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd.org is down X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:20:33 -0000 On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Gary Palmer wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:26:33PM -0700, Jon wrote: >>> Check the freebsd-questions list for more info >> >> For those, like me, who are not subscribed to freebsd-questions, >> the list archives can be accessed at: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-September/thread.html#158022 > > I'll save you all some trouble... The thread basically consists of people > noting that it does not work. That's pretty much it. There's no post yet > stating what the trouble is or what the ETR is. > > Of note is that portaudit relies on www.freebsd.org being up to fetch it's > info. Oh and fetching the ports index via portsdb -F seems to be broken too, I'd imagine it uses the website too. Vince > > Charles > >> That URL appears to still be answering presently. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 15 03:29:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D4F16A417; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edt1023@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from msr12.hinet.net (msr12.hinet.net [168.95.4.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809AE13C46B; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edt1023@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from ms17.hinet.net (218-169-136-31.dynamic.hinet.net [218.169.136.31]) by msr12.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21653; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:09:41 +0800 (CST) Received: by ms17.hinet.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:08:38 +0800 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:08:38 +0800 From: "Edward G.J. Lee" To: freebsd-stable Message-ID: <20070915030837.GA15734@lgj.amnesia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: GNU/Linux/*BSD Dreamer Club User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: qiv(imlib) vs. xorg 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:29:13 -0000 Hi, I can't use qiv after i upgrade xrog 7.2 to 7.3. [edt1023@lgj ~]$ qiv typhon.jpg Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 115 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 [edt1023@lgj ~]$ qiv -z typhon.jpg qiv: Your root window's visual is not the visual Imlib chose; qiv cannot set the background currently. FreeBSD 6-STABLE. Does anybody have the same problem? Edward From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 15 07:28:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755FC16A419 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E585C13C46C for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1224968mue for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=21Gi1DcTcYuN4vdxxRlmtuO5XjZFPnh4CYnJ6LgAEmY=; b=DiI/47Y1uWQ53c2RddmMPWt0vFpQZnWO0PlymJkTmvEqf98ikpDERF0qv/HVscIpJKdfRTnzAj+C+xSfGz5FPXD5iLYgp/OFvxssMJXN8Ljv1j3H0IrCm4OzZTc43w4xszYL3RUV/ZmO76vTJQ66Qb92EsqKL4lzi9PEWlmcgUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=rZfhp0NQzhGIgwbWVCs37ThxuyhjPz8x+GMkGCpZ/ZeXRGm35gg8Jfyl4VglDh65dp1bCbilWE8SxgenFuhmTWbYdAQIlEHsMaMTYpQKCWmR0gwZM8eOsUXEScp30f/rOOT2LjrPW/NTxBmH2QfqJezX4JdMqN+08wRDgdPKZ7g= Received: by 10.86.70.8 with SMTP id s8mr1984593fga.1189841300610; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oslo.ath.cx ( [213.47.80.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y18sm3757587fkd.2007.09.15.00.28.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:28:24 +0200 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070915072824.GB793@oslo.ath.cx> References: <20070915030837.GA15734@lgj.amnesia.net> <20070915070910.GA793@oslo.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070915070910.GA793@oslo.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Subject: Re: qiv(imlib) vs. xorg 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:28:22 -0000 --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 09:09:10AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Edward G.J. Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I can't use qiv after i upgrade xrog 7.2 to 7.3. > > > > [edt1023@lgj ~]$ qiv typhon.jpg > > Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) > > serial 115 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 > > > > [edt1023@lgj ~]$ qiv -z typhon.jpg > > qiv: Your root window's visual is not the visual Imlib chose; > > qiv cannot set the background currently. > > > > FreeBSD 6-STABLE. > > > > Does anybody have the same problem? > > Yes, I had the same problem. I solved the issue by upgrading to > qiv-2.1-pre12. > > - Herbert Wrong ${ECHO_MSG} (with/without Xinerama) - Herbert --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="qiv-2.1pre12.diff" diff -ruN graphics/qiv.bak/Makefile graphics/qiv/Makefile --- graphics/qiv.bak/Makefile 2007-09-15 09:18:11.000000000 +0200 +++ graphics/qiv/Makefile 2007-09-15 09:27:19.000000000 +0200 @@ -6,11 +6,11 @@ # PORTNAME= qiv -PORTVERSION= 2.0 -PORTREVISION= 2 +PORTVERSION= 2.1pre12 +PORTREVISION= 0 CATEGORIES= graphics MASTER_SITES= http://www.klografx.net/qiv/download/ -DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}-src +DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-2.1-pre12 EXTRACT_SUFX= .tgz MAINTAINER= ports@FreeBSD.org @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ USE_GMAKE= yes USE_GNOME= imlib USE_X_PREFIX= yes -WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION} +WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${DISTNAME} MAN1= qiv.1 PLIST_FILES= bin/qiv @@ -29,13 +29,13 @@ .include pre-configure: -.if defined(WITH_XINERAMA) - @${ECHO_MSG} compiling with Xinerama support +.if defined(WITHOUT_XINERAMA) + @${ECHO_MSG} compiling without Xinerama support @${MV} -v ${WRKSRC}/Makefile ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.orig - @${SED} -e 's/\# GTD_XINERAMA/GTD_XINERAMA/' \ + @${SED} -e 's/GTD_XINERAMA\ \=/\# GTD_XINERAMA\ \=/' \ < ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.orig > ${WRKSRC}/Makefile .else - @${ECHO_MSG} compiling without Xinerama support + @${ECHO_MSG} compiling with Xinerama support .endif do-configure: diff -ruN graphics/qiv.bak/distinfo graphics/qiv/distinfo --- graphics/qiv.bak/distinfo 2007-09-15 09:18:11.000000000 +0200 +++ graphics/qiv/distinfo 2007-09-15 09:18:35.000000000 +0200 @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ -MD5 (qiv-2.0-src.tgz) = 165d0c2f264718821f94732196b7f9e1 -SHA256 (qiv-2.0-src.tgz) = 2f0c03ee7e79c9210f060c87d51811e4540f126d8c3d751b31aab69160b3d091 -SIZE (qiv-2.0-src.tgz) = 76561 +MD5 (qiv-2.1-pre12.tgz) = 80ba1e2da5115a3cc3a6f7e19cb620d8 +SHA256 (qiv-2.1-pre12.tgz) = d54edb92ca91567e2a12b536acc14500efdbccc38718efba99cadaa161a1e70c +SIZE (qiv-2.1-pre12.tgz) = 94059 diff -ruN graphics/qiv.bak/files/patch-qiv.h graphics/qiv/files/patch-qiv.h --- graphics/qiv.bak/files/patch-qiv.h 1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100 +++ graphics/qiv/files/patch-qiv.h 2007-09-15 09:18:35.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +--- qiv.h.orig 2007-09-15 08:48:09.000000000 +0200 ++++ qiv.h 2007-09-15 08:48:52.000000000 +0200 +@@ -19,8 +19,8 @@ + #include // for XF86VidModeGetModeLine + */ + +-#define VERSION "2.1-pre11" +-#define VERSION_FULL "QIV - Quick Image Viewer v2.1-pre11 - http://www.klografx.net/qiv/" ++#define VERSION "2.1-pre12" ++#define VERSION_FULL "QIV - Quick Image Viewer v2.1-pre12 - http://www.klografx.net/qiv/" + #define TRASH_DIR ".qiv-trash" + #define SELECT_DIR ".qiv-select" + #define SLIDE_DELAY 3000 /* milliseconds */ --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 15 07:37:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1858616A417 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F73113C46E for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so1127208fka for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:37:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=bmv07ibpecMj4MF0HlHrQmWNUFFgPlQoBeg6IXYPT8Q=; b=Ob5htlgBit/TphaEAX1ZcYLbj+y0oz/eBxBuAO4fdr/q5V1DbPjw/P+ytQmqiCWFwVnWgOK+SisK5jEKN5CjNTkOXhxHwep1Ed7CqKz4uJwfFILUSPYJvNMx718ZDeCvIVq4q9zGjoeLcPZJDRLEZierRekqQfDQbtXSF0G9zd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=FxwZ7wol2DArY8ribffCoC6Q2IP5ItNAr8j1tQZfFs50yA2wYgebP+NymInHaTkrge/8Du2OavTBINWsA0hf13Vh9PQdnmpfU8nA5gG06BQ8BO1XcZ99BcC7FalgRJ/A4NKgwbP7EYpmmtA5rZXAPtj2ymeBLQLn+OA+mrET0mU= Received: by 10.86.80.5 with SMTP id d5mr1971446fgb.1189840146404; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oslo.ath.cx ( [213.47.80.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a37sm3711115fkc.2007.09.15.00.09.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:09:10 +0200 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070915070910.GA793@oslo.ath.cx> References: <20070915030837.GA15734@lgj.amnesia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070915030837.GA15734@lgj.amnesia.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qiv(imlib) vs. xorg 7.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:37:26 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Edward G.J. Lee wrote: > Hi, > > I can't use qiv after i upgrade xrog 7.2 to 7.3. > > [edt1023@lgj ~]$ qiv typhon.jpg > Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) > serial 115 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0 > > [edt1023@lgj ~]$ qiv -z typhon.jpg > qiv: Your root window's visual is not the visual Imlib chose; > qiv cannot set the background currently. > > FreeBSD 6-STABLE. > > Does anybody have the same problem? Yes, I had the same problem. I solved the issue by upgrading to qiv-2.1-pre12. - Herbert --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="qiv-2.1pre12.diff" diff -ruN graphics/qiv.bak/Makefile graphics/qiv/Makefile --- graphics/qiv.bak/Makefile 2007-09-15 08:36:05.000000000 +0200 +++ graphics/qiv/Makefile 2007-09-15 08:56:43.000000000 +0200 @@ -6,11 +6,11 @@ # PORTNAME= qiv -PORTVERSION= 2.0 -PORTREVISION= 2 +PORTVERSION= 2.1pre12 +PORTREVISION= 0 CATEGORIES= graphics MASTER_SITES= http://www.klografx.net/qiv/download/ -DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}-src +DISTNAME= ${PORTNAME}-2.1-pre12 EXTRACT_SUFX= .tgz MAINTAINER= ports@FreeBSD.org @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ USE_GMAKE= yes USE_GNOME= imlib USE_X_PREFIX= yes -WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION} +WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/${DISTNAME} MAN1= qiv.1 PLIST_FILES= bin/qiv @@ -29,10 +29,10 @@ .include pre-configure: -.if defined(WITH_XINERAMA) +.if defined(WITHOUT_XINERAMA) @${ECHO_MSG} compiling with Xinerama support @${MV} -v ${WRKSRC}/Makefile ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.orig - @${SED} -e 's/\# GTD_XINERAMA/GTD_XINERAMA/' \ + @${SED} -e 's/GTD_XINERAMA\ \=/\# GTD_XINERAMA\ \=/' \ < ${WRKSRC}/Makefile.orig > ${WRKSRC}/Makefile .else @${ECHO_MSG} compiling without Xinerama support diff -ruN graphics/qiv.bak/distinfo graphics/qiv/distinfo --- graphics/qiv.bak/distinfo 2007-09-15 08:36:05.000000000 +0200 +++ graphics/qiv/distinfo 2007-09-15 08:43:32.000000000 +0200 @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ -MD5 (qiv-2.0-src.tgz) = 165d0c2f264718821f94732196b7f9e1 -SHA256 (qiv-2.0-src.tgz) = 2f0c03ee7e79c9210f060c87d51811e4540f126d8c3d751b31aab69160b3d091 -SIZE (qiv-2.0-src.tgz) = 76561 +MD5 (qiv-2.1-pre12.tgz) = 80ba1e2da5115a3cc3a6f7e19cb620d8 +SHA256 (qiv-2.1-pre12.tgz) = d54edb92ca91567e2a12b536acc14500efdbccc38718efba99cadaa161a1e70c +SIZE (qiv-2.1-pre12.tgz) = 94059 diff -ruN graphics/qiv.bak/files/patch-qiv.h graphics/qiv/files/patch-qiv.h --- graphics/qiv.bak/files/patch-qiv.h 1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100 +++ graphics/qiv/files/patch-qiv.h 2007-09-15 08:50:07.000000000 +0200 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +--- qiv.h.orig 2007-09-15 08:48:09.000000000 +0200 ++++ qiv.h 2007-09-15 08:48:52.000000000 +0200 +@@ -19,8 +19,8 @@ + #include // for XF86VidModeGetModeLine + */ + +-#define VERSION "2.1-pre11" +-#define VERSION_FULL "QIV - Quick Image Viewer v2.1-pre11 - http://www.klografx.net/qiv/" ++#define VERSION "2.1-pre12" ++#define VERSION_FULL "QIV - Quick Image Viewer v2.1-pre12 - http://www.klografx.net/qiv/" + #define TRASH_DIR ".qiv-trash" + #define SELECT_DIR ".qiv-select" + #define SLIDE_DELAY 3000 /* milliseconds */ --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 15 22:14:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8505816A41A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E1D13C428 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: (qmail 7362 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2007 21:47:45 -0000 Received: from dsl081-173-150.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO dv6000.tddhome) ([64.81.173.150]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Sep 2007 21:47:45 -0000 Received: from dv6000.tddhome (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dv6000.tddhome (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8FLlj9B008104; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@dv6000.tddhome) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by dv6000.tddhome (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8FLliPI008101; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200709152147.l8FLliPI008101@dv6000.tddhome> From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: js@jeannot.org Subject: Compiler Problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:14:26 -0000 I believe we have a compiler problem with gcc42. I had a problem with scilab under both -stable and -current. I installed the ports with the default make files. scilab failed at run time. ports/116378. Math/scilab uses math/lapack and math/blas and builds everything with gcc42 and gfortran42. I distrust things which do not use the default system build tools. All three ports were up-to-date as of yesterday. I deinstalled scilab, blas, and, lapack. I rebuilt them with the default system compilers, g77 and cc. The problem went away. scilab uses two gfortran specific calls. Fixing these, changing the makefiles fixed the problem. Scilab. Changed Makefile to use g77, cc, c++ USE_FORTRAN= g77 CC=cc CXX=c++ F77=f77 build lapack with g77 USE_FORTRAN=g77 build blas with g77 USE_FORTRAN=g77 Removed gfortran from /scratch/obj/ports/usr/ports/math/scilab/work/scilab-4.1.1/routines/os_specific/getarg.c By using the default call in the #if..else statement. tomdean From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 15 23:03:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0199216A419 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from FS.denninger.net (wsip-70-169-168-7.pn.at.cox.net [70.169.168.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B42D13C46A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.8/8.13.1) with SMTP id l8FMan0g007623 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:36:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net [127.0.0.1] by Spamblock-sys (LOCAL); Sat Sep 15 17:36:49 2007 Received: (from karl@localhost) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l8FManmf007620 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:36:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:36:49 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070915223649.GA6439@FS.denninger.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! X-SPAMBLOCK-MATCH: Matched [@freebsd.org+], message ok Subject: Question regarding Intel ICH7 motherboard and integrated RAID controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:03:35 -0000 Hi folks; I have a new Intel ICH7 board here that has Quad-core support. It works well EXCEPT.... It has an on-board RAID controller with some internal buffer memory. I'm not all that interested in using it as a RAID adapter. I am, however, interested in using it as a disk adapter, as a way to both spread load AND benefit from its cache memory. Unfortunately, BTX panics if I attach a disk to it! I have no idea if FreeBSD would see the disks as just "normal" "ad" disks, as I can't get anywhere near that far to find out... Any ideas? 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