From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 02:24:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B621C106564A for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF378FC0C for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2138943rvf.43 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=lL2ijCoOpHL6MOCupCSJojRt1YbCgurSHOQLdmfvwb0=; b=CXYme3pzQ9zwNXoJtbsSFS5ucTklj/sUkdbiMSVdG2yf8VQ96+xhJo/ZgHU8l+gK+y U+lbjQ9Z/b4ay/4SVweyqSVe9kbcVxqbSeOlrx3ww0uvgM19ASSyWc/VxTMhMGxJM4mr Ln94SEn4pBZeLK7CCDBjwwTcbJizS77yF3BrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Sms4gmzJDIWBTVmJFvgoKvqcCsJrHb9AACa0m8RM2FvnJmdjZNKQLRW2ieYdSmoZ7/ KeAltcSxB0TYmbmLcDi+Lai9Vp+KIaLB35drkLkxbF259/41WH1PBT+kS3jqNt+N+2lI MNTTmsGmek8Xb9dVZTk63Ouu+FIgzyrkdbSLY= Received: by 10.142.12.14 with SMTP id 14mr2114212wfl.64.1229221477823; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.115.5 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0812131824i489c50c6w456e62e43ecabdeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:24:37 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Boris Samorodov" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Changes to OpenAFS to support FreeBSD 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:24:38 -0000 Hi Boris, To get a OpenAFS compiling on a couple-day-old current, I needed to change (in addition to the vinvalbuf change mentioned elsewhere) VSUID to S_ISUID and VSGID to S_ISGID in VNOPS/afs_vnop_attrs.c from this change: trasz 2008-09-10 13:16:41 UTC (note that S_ISUID is from stat.h and VUID was from vnode.h) remove the curthread argument from VOP_GETATTR() (two occurrences) in FBSD/osi_file.c:143 (this is under AFS_FBSD50_ENV ???) from this change: attilio 2008-08-28 15:23:18 UTC The vinvalbuf change also affects FBSD/osi_vm.c in two lines. change ap->a_mode to ap->a_accmode in FBSD/osi_vnodeops.c:691 and in the comment above. Arguably, this might be rather a bug in the vnode_if.h header where the structure is defined (libafs/MODLOAD/vnode_if.h, apparently). Now, everything compiles, but kldload is claiming that libafs.ko doesn't exist ... -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 02:56:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CE2106564A for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CC28FC12 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBE2uCfe000955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:56:12 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 0964DDB41FB4; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:56:12 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE137DB41FB1; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:56:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:56:02 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <47d0403c0812131824i489c50c6w456e62e43ecabdeb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0812131824i489c50c6w456e62e43ecabdeb@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:56:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, Derrick J Brashear Subject: Re: Changes to OpenAFS to support FreeBSD 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:56:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Ben, I got your previous email, but wasn't sure I could get to this. I haven't in fact been focused on 8-CURRENT, but on vnode locking and refcounting correctness across 7.0 to 8-CURRENT. (Making headway...) Anyway, I set that aside and whacked through a similar effort. The things you got sound right to me, though I'm surprised krx and afs_server.c compiled, but, it might have to do with whether you have network stack virtualization enabled. The module doesn't load presumably because of unresolved externals--here either the aforementioned (like in_ifaddrhead), and probably "suser(thread)" which is gone, replaced with "priv_check(thread)" (what makes me think that one won't be around long). Openafs-1.4.8 (openafs.org) with RT # 123933 compiles and loads, as above, but I have not run the code, it's just to block something in, ATM. Matt Ben Kaduk wrote: > Hi Boris, > > To get a OpenAFS compiling on a couple-day-old current, I needed to > change (in addition to > the vinvalbuf change mentioned elsewhere) > > VSUID to S_ISUID and VSGID to S_ISGID in VNOPS/afs_vnop_attrs.c > from this change: > trasz 2008-09-10 13:16:41 UTC > (note that S_ISUID is from stat.h and VUID was from vnode.h) > > remove the curthread argument from VOP_GETATTR() (two occurrences) > in FBSD/osi_file.c:143 (this is under AFS_FBSD50_ENV ???) > from this change: > attilio 2008-08-28 15:23:18 UTC > > The vinvalbuf change also affects FBSD/osi_vm.c in two lines. > > change ap->a_mode to ap->a_accmode in FBSD/osi_vnodeops.c:691 > and in the comment above. Arguably, this might be rather a bug > in the vnode_if.h header where the structure is defined > (libafs/MODLOAD/vnode_if.h, apparently). > > Now, everything compiles, but kldload is claiming that libafs.ko > doesn't exist ... > > -Ben Kaduk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-afs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-afs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-afs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJRHXBJiSUUSaRdSURCIEPAJsFcRHTBEDsWs4y2r3h0LJlQ7LjzgCdGJS4 uFYwecbqcgAQeA1bXhSnqG4= =f20Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 03:03:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3BC1065676 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921E58FC0C for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2132282wfg.7 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GTiPgmoxyyHydq1FXVtL7ppCF9VaG+JmeeP40T6gCK0=; b=BLQSZlcYp2fR/3jcfbIpG0cvXU0S8Ygj7LBlK7ZNe0CrKJvYkjW1aADioO26n6zm5i T0/3MXFZGbu2gmm1OkmyqQVVwUN2qnD6nC8zZ0DqDH/RdDq1PhAIIfbXU/pLX5RRC3Ws sPBeiTKA3p7Z5QDgogMTLSimR5LeyBPkuPCz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=M3wQbqihiwNMIrYZcJJAerLmYHQSwkz2r7sKmnnl0nEGmawXTs1b9DvqovxBmRSrAe Sy52NaEIyOsATkJMj8WFzr1R0UcHN7umegNTf+Ic1yEwVq6QkdgJXCJ5qHge0V7imFGQ s2ErtAE4ZE7K8a+y9hdcBYDE2xs7suY3KcfNc= Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr2128737wfg.57.1229223813254; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.115.5 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:03:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0812131903m24969d40jb4300636edb18124@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:03:33 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Matt Benjamin" In-Reply-To: <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47d0403c0812131824i489c50c6w456e62e43ecabdeb@mail.gmail.com> <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, Derrick J Brashear Subject: Re: Changes to OpenAFS to support FreeBSD 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:03:33 -0000 On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Matt Benjamin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Ben, > > I got your previous email, but wasn't sure I could get to this. I > haven't in fact been focused on 8-CURRENT, but on vnode locking and > refcounting correctness across 7.0 to 8-CURRENT. (Making headway...) > > Anyway, I set that aside and whacked through a similar effort. The > things you got sound right to me, though I'm surprised krx and > afs_server.c compiled, but, it might have to do with whether you have > network stack virtualization enabled. The module doesn't load > presumably because of unresolved externals--here either the > aforementioned (like in_ifaddrhead), and probably "suser(thread)" which > is gone, replaced with "priv_check(thread)" (what makes me think that > one won't be around long). Right. After a bit of googling, I thought to check the dmesg, where the helpful error link_elf: symbol suser undefined had appeared. Now I get to find where kldload is printing "No such file or directory" instead of something useful, and file a bug. > > Openafs-1.4.8 (openafs.org) with RT # 123933 compiles and loads, as > above, but I have not run the code, it's just to block something in, ATM. > Okay, I'll look at that some more. Thanks for taking the time out for me. -Ben Kaduk > Matt > > Ben Kaduk wrote: >> Hi Boris, >> >> To get a OpenAFS compiling on a couple-day-old current, I needed to >> change (in addition to >> the vinvalbuf change mentioned elsewhere) >> >> VSUID to S_ISUID and VSGID to S_ISGID in VNOPS/afs_vnop_attrs.c >> from this change: >> trasz 2008-09-10 13:16:41 UTC >> (note that S_ISUID is from stat.h and VUID was from vnode.h) >> >> remove the curthread argument from VOP_GETATTR() (two occurrences) >> in FBSD/osi_file.c:143 (this is under AFS_FBSD50_ENV ???) >> from this change: >> attilio 2008-08-28 15:23:18 UTC >> >> The vinvalbuf change also affects FBSD/osi_vm.c in two lines. >> >> change ap->a_mode to ap->a_accmode in FBSD/osi_vnodeops.c:691 >> and in the comment above. Arguably, this might be rather a bug >> in the vnode_if.h header where the structure is defined >> (libafs/MODLOAD/vnode_if.h, apparently). >> >> Now, everything compiles, but kldload is claiming that libafs.ko >> doesn't exist ... >> >> -Ben Kaduk >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-afs@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-afs >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-afs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > - -- > > Matt Benjamin > > The Linux Box > 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 > Ann Arbor, MI 48104 > > http://linuxbox.com > > tel. 734-761-4689 > fax. 734-769-8938 > cel. 734-216-5309 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFJRHXBJiSUUSaRdSURCIEPAJsFcRHTBEDsWs4y2r3h0LJlQ7LjzgCdGJS4 > uFYwecbqcgAQeA1bXhSnqG4= > =f20Q > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 14:22:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B3C10656F4 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5765C8FC23 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LBrrX-000MTu-2w; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:22:27 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LBrrW-0000Ke-SD; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:22:26 +0300 To: "Tony Jago" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:22:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Tony Jago's message of "Sun\, 14 Dec 2008 09\:55\:01 +1000") Message-ID: <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is afsd only a client file X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:22:30 -0000 Hello Tony, (restored CC to freebsd-afs@, maybe someone can push me to the right direction) "Tony Jago" writes: > The disable kernel module seems to only disable the kernel > module. There are a whole heap of commands that are only for > client. Infact the server bit is fairly small. Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out which file should belong to which port? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 16:11:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B701065670 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D938FC1A for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBEGAsel026561 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:10:55 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id A216BDB42025; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:10:54 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825AADB42023; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:10:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:10:44 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:10:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, Tony Jago Subject: Re: Is afsd only a client file X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:11:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Boris Samorodov wrote: > "Tony Jago" writes: > >> The disable kernel module seems to only disable the kernel >> module. There are a whole heap of commands that are only for >> client. Infact the server bit is fairly small. > > Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + > afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out > which file should belong to which port? That is the client, minimally. Users need to get, list, and discard tokens (aklog, klog, unlog, tokens*), talk to the client to configure and debug it (fs), as well as do some AFS specific file operations (fs), manage groups (pts), possibly also users (pts). They should have vos, too (vos listvldb). You should also ship pagsh* (but I don't remember if pags work right now in the FreeBSD client). I'd think you should ship all of sys, rxgen, scout, udebug, cmdebug, rxdebug, fstrace, up, and bos for administrative and debugging purposes. Other distribution packages people have done (openafs.org) could be helpful, also openafs top-level make has a "dest" target that puts a Transarc style installation in a subtree "dest" of the openafs source tree being built. For the server, perhaps everything openafs would have put in its libexec or sbin, and not already mentioned (except maybe copyauth). And somehow you are accounting for configuration files and a var tree with appropiate permissions, as you noted. Matt - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJRTAEJiSUUSaRdSURCOn6AJ9a1eP1YnRIxvWLKOJ0CEAEUlJPlQCfXmIZ L1UB412oycjPWbILHY7kLxI= =qPHV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 00:47:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABF6106564A for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D6C8FC18 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBF0lQKQ021300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:26 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 3C876DA3016E; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:26 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CFDDA2FFA8; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4945A910.90700@linuxbox.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:12 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <47d0403c0812131824i489c50c6w456e62e43ecabdeb@mail.gmail.com> <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> In-Reply-To: <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:47:26 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: priv_check arg (oops) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:47:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 RT # 123936 overlays, conditionally includes and passes the PRIV_ROOT argument as expected Matt Benjamin wrote: > > Openafs-1.4.8 (openafs.org) with RT # 123933 compiles and loads, as > above, but I have not run the code, it's just to block something in, ATM. - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJRahvJiSUUSaRdSURCF5+AJ9Ng0tzOYtFWsKiR08aDJkpCPiSTQCeIaaD ShQf6mK85MP/n4O/dhTuIOs= =bfj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 12:52:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D27106564A for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB218FC08 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCCvq-000B19-4x for freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:52:18 +0300 To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:52:18 +0300 In-Reply-To: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> (Boris Samorodov's message of "Mon\, 15 Dec 2008 14\:15\:19 +0300") Message-ID: <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:52:20 -0000 (resending after an hour timeout, seems my first letter went to nowhere) Hello List, this is time to decide which mtree for binaries is apropriate for openafs port(s). That's my proposal: PREFIX=/usr/local BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin SBINDIR=$PREFIX/sbin SBINDIR: all *server + upclient BINDIR: all other binaries What do you think? Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 14:36:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB4A1065676 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CD38FC18 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCEYV-00037C-NY for freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:36:19 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCBPz-0000Ve-Ns for freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:15:19 +0300 To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:15:19 +0300 Message-ID: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:36:21 -0000 Hello List, this is time to decide which mtree for binaries is apropriate for openafs port(s). That's my proposal: PREFIX=/usr/local BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin SBINDIR=$PREFIX/sbin SBINDIR: all *server + upclient BINDIR: all other binaries What do you think? Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 23:24:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1DE106567E for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from mail.arcadebsd.org (sd-16356.dedibox.fr [88.191.88.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10158FC25 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (home.elbarto.org [82.229.222.193]) (Authenticated sender: elbarto) by mail.arcadebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3893C3412D; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:05:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:04:30 +0100 From: ElBarto User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:44 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > (resending after an hour timeout, seems my first letter went to nowhere) > > Hello List, > > > this is time to decide which mtree for binaries is apropriate > for openafs port(s). That's my proposal: > > PREFIX=/usr/local > BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin > SBINDIR=$PREFIX/sbin > > SBINDIR: all *server + upclient > BINDIR: all other binaries > > What do you think? Thanks! > > > WBR > Hello, I'll prefer to have all the *server in $PREFIX/libexec/openafs like the pkgsrc for netbsd. As those binaries are not intend to be called manually it seems normal to not have them in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin. Just look at the pkgsrc, I kind of like the way it is done. -- Emmanuel Vadot elbarto@arcadebsd.org From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 07:56:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC711065672 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C138FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCUmp-0008OZ-Oc; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:56:11 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCUmp-0000KR-Ig; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:56:11 +0300 To: ElBarto References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:56:11 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> (elbarto@arcadebsd.org's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 00\:04\:30 +0100") Message-ID: <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:56:13 -0000 ElBarto writes: > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> this is time to decide which mtree for binaries is apropriate >> for openafs port(s). That's my proposal: >> >> PREFIX=/usr/local >> BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin >> SBINDIR=$PREFIX/sbin >> >> SBINDIR: all *server + upclient BINDIR: all other binaries >> >> What do you think? Thanks! > > I'll prefer to have all the *server in $PREFIX/libexec/openafs like > the pkgsrc for netbsd. That makes sence. > As those binaries are not intend to be called manually it seems normal > to not have them > in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin. > Just look at the pkgsrc, I kind of like the way it is done. This package contains the whole distribution. This is just what we do have now, but ee are going to separate server and client files. How can we do it? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 08:49:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9682D1065670 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C98FC18 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCVcp-0008gp-9c; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:49:55 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCVcp-0000Ot-2M; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:49:55 +0300 To: Matt Benjamin References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:49:55 +0300 In-Reply-To: <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> (Matt Benjamin's message of "Sun\, 14 Dec 2008 11\:10\:44 -0500") Message-ID: <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: openafs server executables (was: Re: Is afsd only a client file) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:49:57 -0000 Matt Benjamin writes: >> Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + >> afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out >> which file should belong to which port? > > That is the client, minimally. Users need to get, list, and discard > tokens (aklog, klog, unlog, tokens*), talk to the client to configure > and debug it (fs), as well as do some AFS specific file operations (fs), > manage groups (pts), possibly also users (pts). They should have vos, > too (vos listvldb). You should also ship pagsh* (but I don't remember > if pags work right now in the FreeBSD client). > > I'd think you should ship all of sys, rxgen, scout, udebug, cmdebug, > rxdebug, fstrace, up, and bos for administrative and debugging purposes. > > Other distribution packages people have done (openafs.org) could be > helpful, also openafs top-level make has a "dest" target that puts a > Transarc style installation in a subtree "dest" of the openafs source > tree being built. > > For the server, perhaps everything openafs would have put in its libexec > or sbin, and not already mentioned (except maybe copyauth). And somehow > you are accounting for configuration files and a var tree with > appropiate permissions, as you noted. OK, seems that to determine the server part is an easier task. Let's say server executables are: ----- libexec/openafs/ buserver fileserver kaserver ptserver salvager upclient upserver vlserver volserver sbin/ bosserver ka-forwarder kadb_check kdb kpwvalid prdb_check pt_util rmtsysd vldb_check vldb_convert voldump volinfo vsys ----- And let's assume other executables belong to the client part. Any changes, additions, fixes? Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:15:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7B41065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from mail.arcadebsd.org (sd-16356.dedibox.fr [88.191.88.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484E58FC13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (home.elbarto.org [82.229.222.193]) (Authenticated sender: elbarto) by mail.arcadebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BED75341AA; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4947A9D0.6050900@arcadebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:14:56 +0100 From: ElBarto User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:15:54 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Matt Benjamin writes: > > >>> Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + >>> afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out >>> which file should belong to which port? >>> >> That is the client, minimally. Users need to get, list, and discard >> tokens (aklog, klog, unlog, tokens*), talk to the client to configure >> and debug it (fs), as well as do some AFS specific file operations (fs), >> manage groups (pts), possibly also users (pts). They should have vos, >> too (vos listvldb). You should also ship pagsh* (but I don't remember >> if pags work right now in the FreeBSD client). >> >> I'd think you should ship all of sys, rxgen, scout, udebug, cmdebug, >> rxdebug, fstrace, up, and bos for administrative and debugging purposes. >> >> Other distribution packages people have done (openafs.org) could be >> helpful, also openafs top-level make has a "dest" target that puts a >> Transarc style installation in a subtree "dest" of the openafs source >> tree being built. >> >> For the server, perhaps everything openafs would have put in its libexec >> or sbin, and not already mentioned (except maybe copyauth). And somehow >> you are accounting for configuration files and a var tree with >> appropiate permissions, as you noted. >> > > OK, seems that to determine the server part is an easier task. > Let's say server executables are: > ----- > libexec/openafs/ > buserver > fileserver > kaserver > ptserver > salvager > upclient > upserver > vlserver > volserver > sbin/ > bosserver > ka-forwarder > kadb_check > kdb > kpwvalid > prdb_check > pt_util > rmtsysd > vldb_check > vldb_convert > voldump > volinfo > vsys > ----- > > And let's assume other executables belong to the client part. > > Any changes, additions, fixes? Thanks! > > > WBR > Well, the bos, vos and backup command are totally useless to an afs user so I think it will be better to included them in the openafs-server ports. I don't see either the "scout" or "udebug" command in your list, this is for monitoring servers so ... The uss command is only for the administrator. I think if your add those command in the list it should be good. -- Emmanuel Vadot elbarto@arcadebsd.org From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:32:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83A21065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CDE8FC16 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCa2E-0003rb-Lb; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:32:26 +0300 To: ElBarto References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947A9D0.6050900@arcadebsd.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:32:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4947A9D0.6050900@arcadebsd.org> (elbarto@arcadebsd.org's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 14\:14\:56 +0100") Message-ID: <69526901@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:32:31 -0000 ElBarto writes: > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Matt Benjamin writes: >> >> >>>> Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + >>>> afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out >>>> which file should belong to which port? >>>> >>> That is the client, minimally. Users need to get, list, and discard >>> tokens (aklog, klog, unlog, tokens*), talk to the client to configure >>> and debug it (fs), as well as do some AFS specific file operations (fs), >>> manage groups (pts), possibly also users (pts). They should have vos, >>> too (vos listvldb). You should also ship pagsh* (but I don't remember >>> if pags work right now in the FreeBSD client). >>> >>> I'd think you should ship all of sys, rxgen, scout, udebug, cmdebug, >>> rxdebug, fstrace, up, and bos for administrative and debugging purposes. >>> >>> Other distribution packages people have done (openafs.org) could be >>> helpful, also openafs top-level make has a "dest" target that puts a >>> Transarc style installation in a subtree "dest" of the openafs source >>> tree being built. >>> >>> For the server, perhaps everything openafs would have put in its libexec >>> or sbin, and not already mentioned (except maybe copyauth). And somehow >>> you are accounting for configuration files and a var tree with >>> appropiate permissions, as you noted. >> >> OK, seems that to determine the server part is an easier task. >> Let's say server executables are: [old list was here] >> And let's assume other executables belong to the client part. >> >> Any changes, additions, fixes? Thanks! >> > Well, the bos, vos and backup command are totally useless to an afs > user so I think it will > be better to included them in the openafs-server ports. > I don't see either the "scout" or "udebug" command in your list, this > is for monitoring servers so ... > The uss command is only for the administrator. Done. > I think if your add those command in the list it should be good. Thanks for your help! Here is a changed list: ----- bin/ bos scout udebug libexec/openafs/ buserver fileserver kaserver ptserver salvager upclient upserver vlserver volserver sbin/ backup bosserver ka-forwarder kadb_check kdb kpwvalid prdb_check pt_util rmtsysd uss vldb_check vldb_convert voldump volinfo vos vsys ----- Any more fixes? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:37:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0351065672 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f12.google.com (mail-gx0-f12.google.com [209.85.217.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2038FC1C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so2511556gxk.19 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:37:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jkISTZSdYS1wSTKVj64qgENwZh93yRSA+qgoiUtMnbM=; b=qntkaOz2dWDycPtje0YFXh3EVaQBaals9rydvB2V5iiivlL/jailaxQq60VMirjZPW UXuYyZis8MfTeNP6WXRLMiUI6512jz6y7untu8B3Ef0PMC3QIIXHvhGS8oQzvSFXIoul bPUL5aCVYRV083N2Yov5GzCWXi4k+g2CNi/PE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=eyyb4tIiklhR45VOTlh4kv/tU0MjySKsYze7vHKUOCp6R9cFfGU6UkEFjVY/gdmLSd 3gIHq6dPCg4NGJ2bkpxwnik/OHfOXLOxemkFljijfl6Jx2l3tA6ekBEb5Hpk5aX3NR3M vnDMv/4ep/I/baOiIrgZ5qAVxDDLbt9WgqIqI= Received: by 10.150.177.20 with SMTP id z20mr12405843ybe.174.1229434669792; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:37:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:37:49 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables (was: Re: Is afsd only a client file) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:37:52 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Matt Benjamin writes: > > >> Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + > >> afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out > >> which file should belong to which port? > > > > That is the client, minimally. Users need to get, list, and discard > > tokens (aklog, klog, unlog, tokens*), talk to the client to configure > > and debug it (fs), as well as do some AFS specific file operations (fs), > > manage groups (pts), possibly also users (pts). They should have vos, > > too (vos listvldb). You should also ship pagsh* (but I don't remember > > if pags work right now in the FreeBSD client). > > > > I'd think you should ship all of sys, rxgen, scout, udebug, cmdebug, > > rxdebug, fstrace, up, and bos for administrative and debugging purposes. > > > > Other distribution packages people have done (openafs.org) could be > > helpful, also openafs top-level make has a "dest" target that puts a > > Transarc style installation in a subtree "dest" of the openafs source > > tree being built. > > > > For the server, perhaps everything openafs would have put in its libexec > > or sbin, and not already mentioned (except maybe copyauth). And somehow > > you are accounting for configuration files and a var tree with > > appropiate permissions, as you noted. > > OK, seems that to determine the server part is an easier task. > Let's say server executables are: > ----- > libexec/openafs/ > buserver > fileserver > kaserver > ptserver > salvager > upclient > upserver > vlserver > volserver > sbin/ > bosserver > ka-forwarder > kadb_check > kdb > kpwvalid > prdb_check > pt_util > rmtsysd > vldb_check > vldb_convert > voldump > volinfo > vsys > ----- > > And let's assume other executables belong to the client part. > Two copies of fs, vos, pts, bos, kas, asetkey, tokens, udebug, klog get installed normally. you want copies of at least fs, vos, bos, asetkey, udebug, pts (maybe not klog, tokens) in server, even if they are installed elsewhere in client. > > Any changes, additions, fixes? Thanks! > > > WBR > -- > Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP > FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-afs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-afs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-afs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Derrick From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:41:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581AF106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from mail.arcadebsd.org (sd-16356.dedibox.fr [88.191.88.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C3D8FC1B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (home.elbarto.org [82.229.222.193]) (Authenticated sender: elbarto) by mail.arcadebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2DEDF341AA; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:41:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:40:56 +0100 From: ElBarto User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:41:54 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > ElBarto writes: > >> Boris Samorodov wrote: >> > > >>> this is time to decide which mtree for binaries is apropriate >>> for openafs port(s). That's my proposal: >>> >>> PREFIX=/usr/local >>> BINDIR=$PREFIX/bin >>> SBINDIR=$PREFIX/sbin >>> >>> SBINDIR: all *server + upclient BINDIR: all other binaries >>> >>> What do you think? Thanks! >>> >> I'll prefer to have all the *server in $PREFIX/libexec/openafs like >> the pkgsrc for netbsd. >> > > That makes sence. > > >> As those binaries are not intend to be called manually it seems normal >> to not have them >> in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin. >> Just look at the pkgsrc, I kind of like the way it is done. >> > > This package contains the whole distribution. This is just what we > do have now, but ee are going to separate server and client files. > How can we do it? > > > WBR > Well, For the client you only need all the binaries for mounting an afs server (don't know exactly which ones). This is the list I suggest : $PREFIX/sbin/afsd $PREFIX/bin/afsmonitor (seems more logic in the client part) $PREFIX/bin/dlog (don't really know what is it but seems a client part) $PREFIX/bin/dpass $PREFIX/bin/fs $PREFIX/sbin/fstrace $PREFIX/bin/klog $PREFIX/bin/knfs $PREFIX/bin/kpasswd $PREFIX/sbin/kpwvalid $PREFIX/bin/pagsh $PREFIX/bin/pts $PREFIX/sbin/rxdebug $PREFIX/bin/sys $PREFIX/bin/tokens $PREFIX/bin/translate_et $PREFIX/bin/unlog $PREFIX/bin/up $PREFIX/bin/xstat_cm_test The rest of the commands should be in the server ports. -- Emmanuel Vadot elbarto@arcadebsd.org From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:47:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC404106567B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from mail.arcadebsd.org (sd-16356.dedibox.fr [88.191.88.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951828FC1C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (home.elbarto.org [82.229.222.193]) (Authenticated sender: elbarto) by mail.arcadebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AE471341AA; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:47:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:46:59 +0100 From: ElBarto User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Brashear References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:47:56 -0000 Derrick Brashear wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > >> Matt Benjamin writes: >> >> >>>> Hm, until now I've been sure that client is kernel modile + >>>> afsd daemon + configuration files. Where can I find out >>>> which file should belong to which port? >>>> >>> That is the client, minimally. Users need to get, list, and discard >>> tokens (aklog, klog, unlog, tokens*), talk to the client to configure >>> and debug it (fs), as well as do some AFS specific file operations (fs), >>> manage groups (pts), possibly also users (pts). They should have vos, >>> too (vos listvldb). You should also ship pagsh* (but I don't remember >>> if pags work right now in the FreeBSD client). >>> >>> I'd think you should ship all of sys, rxgen, scout, udebug, cmdebug, >>> rxdebug, fstrace, up, and bos for administrative and debugging purposes. >>> >>> Other distribution packages people have done (openafs.org) could be >>> helpful, also openafs top-level make has a "dest" target that puts a >>> Transarc style installation in a subtree "dest" of the openafs source >>> tree being built. >>> >>> For the server, perhaps everything openafs would have put in its libexec >>> or sbin, and not already mentioned (except maybe copyauth). And somehow >>> you are accounting for configuration files and a var tree with >>> appropiate permissions, as you noted. >>> >> OK, seems that to determine the server part is an easier task. >> Let's say server executables are: >> ----- >> libexec/openafs/ >> buserver >> fileserver >> kaserver >> ptserver >> salvager >> upclient >> upserver >> vlserver >> volserver >> sbin/ >> bosserver >> ka-forwarder >> kadb_check >> kdb >> kpwvalid >> prdb_check >> pt_util >> rmtsysd >> vldb_check >> vldb_convert >> voldump >> volinfo >> vsys >> ----- >> >> And let's assume other executables belong to the client part. >> >> > > Two copies of fs, vos, pts, bos, kas, asetkey, tokens, udebug, klog get > installed normally. you want copies of at least fs, vos, bos, asetkey, > udebug, pts (maybe not klog, tokens) in server, even if they are installed > elsewhere in client. > So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at two different place ? Seems ugly to me. As I said vos and bos are useless to an user so they should be in the server port. pts must be in the client port, even it's used for creating users, it can also be used to create sub-group (login:group). fs is needed to setting up a new cell but not after (server side), so it should be in the client ports. -- Emmanuel Vadot elbarto@arcadebsd.org From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:51:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785481065678 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f12.google.com (mail-gx0-f12.google.com [209.85.217.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EE68FC36 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so2516946gxk.19 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:51:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:56 -0000 > Well, the bos, vos and backup command are totally useless to an afs user so > I think it will as a mere mortal long before i had any admin power i used bos and vos. they are part of both the client and the server, and should be installed by both. > > be better to included them in the openafs-server ports. > I don't see either the "scout" or "udebug" command in your list, this is > for monitoring servers so ... > The uss command is only for the administrator. udebug is a debugging command, can be run by scripts etc. belongs in both. > > > I think if your add those command in the list it should be good. > > -- > Emmanuel Vadot > elbarto@arcadebsd.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-afs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-afs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-afs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Derrick From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 13:54:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43ED106564A for ; 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Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:54:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:54:57 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: ElBarto In-Reply-To: <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:54:58 -0000 > > So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at two > different place ? Seems ugly to me. Sounds subjective to me :) > > As I said vos and bos are useless to an user so they should be in the > server port. Repeating yourself doesn't make me more likely to agree. I suppose it depends how atuned to afs the user is but vos will check quotas where ACLs do not permit, (think help desk staffed by non admins) and bos can be used to verify that a server is unreachable because, say, it crashed, or what restart times are. (same idea) As a student I used them for those purposes uncompensated. -- Derrick From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 14:15:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6271065672 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from mail.arcadebsd.org (sd-16356.dedibox.fr [88.191.88.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203E18FC12 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbarto@arcadebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (home.elbarto.org [82.229.222.193]) (Authenticated sender: elbarto) by mail.arcadebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1BBA534183; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:15:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:14:28 +0100 From: ElBarto User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081129) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Brashear References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:25 -0000 Derrick Brashear wrote: > > > So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at > two different place ? Seems ugly to me. > > > Sounds subjective to me :) > What do you propose for the path of the redundant binaries ? > > As I said vos and bos are useless to an user so they should be in > the server port. > > > Repeating yourself doesn't make me more likely to agree. > > I suppose it depends how atuned to afs the user is but vos will check > quotas where ACLs do not permit, (think help desk staffed by non > admins) and bos can be used to verify that a server is unreachable > because, say, it crashed, or what restart times are. (same idea) > > As a student I used them for those purposes uncompensated. fs listquota is not enough for you ? (it's a real question, not ironic) I kind of disagree for splitting the openafs ports cause as you say some commands are useful (more or less) for both client and server part, but as it seems that it's going to be that way, I want the port to be clean and with no redundancy. The thing is you can't use the some vos command without a client (vos dump, restore etc ...) but those commands are not intend to users. Quoting the openafs administration reference : The commands in the vos command suite are the administrative interface to the Volume Server and Volume Location (VL) Server. System administrators use vos commands to create, move, delete, replicate, back up and examine volumes, among other operations. But I think you know that but know you see my point. -- Emmanuel Vadot elbarto@arcadebsd.org From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 14:21:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A1C1065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76188FC1A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBGEL4rc032036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:21:05 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4CEB6DB4231E; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:21:03 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B353DB4231C; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:21:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4947B946.2020004@linuxbox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:20:54 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Brashear References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:21:05 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Guys, The "vos listvldb" is one of the first things I type when I logon to a strange AFS environment, and more importantly, one of the first things I ask someone to type if I have to debug a problem on a client. Both of the commands being discussed are the client program interfaces to server programs. Matt Derrick Brashear wrote: >> So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at two >> different place ? Seems ugly to me. > > > Sounds subjective to me :) > > >> As I said vos and bos are useless to an user so they should be in the >> server port. > - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJR7lGJiSUUSaRdSURCLrbAJ0bvGCKJOIuWdrTFaCPNkTUBSDEWACdHiVm pbKq5e7EOTM9jW2rIb4oYFs= =pvGs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 14:28:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A29106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D948FC13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1722004yxb.13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+G1ob+vFpNJ11rtX3rvl+PP8XLw4DkM34NtMxDvipBA=; b=I+VJ05GKJZqtg2qwRgeL43kQbjo2/AcYInUDO5TC66FkaoFKRFg+VB7OxHq+QGFk5w 8WJDvwmEvA+4ktcfxMlJO9gFUoeBFDIET2Yw+F9cLpleW/8Vy90uCiWhIc4dOA1BmCCX PpkFXvRn2xd0pzxxasbnK+oTm/PmzE95dPeNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=D+hJ3LbvfPbKdJS1SoWCIQ7+5DC8E3MGTkWykGrV8QMefyx0vvuuxGEn+HvN6MJZLD 0ErU3/oG/5Xedn1bYHPLYAtY00W0fn+dv2cH4tJ7ImJjs5CWCLybQEyWo8t7w62QOOqv +Qkx4W9gklzxOvxfhcBmgH2fCpQphQO8EetAE= Received: by 10.151.41.14 with SMTP id t14mr14836793ybj.54.1229437701610; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:28:21 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: ElBarto In-Reply-To: <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:28:22 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:14 AM, ElBarto wrote: > Derrick Brashear wrote: > >> >> >> So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at >> two different place ? Seems ugly to me. >> >> >> Sounds subjective to me :) >> >> > > What do you propose for the path of the redundant binaries ? > Putting the extra copies in sbin > > > >> As I said vos and bos are useless to an user so they should be in >> the server port. >> >> >> Repeating yourself doesn't make me more likely to agree. >> >> I suppose it depends how atuned to afs the user is but vos will check >> quotas where ACLs do not permit, (think help desk staffed by non admins) and >> bos can be used to verify that a server is unreachable because, say, it >> crashed, or what restart times are. (same idea) >> >> As a student I used them for those purposes uncompensated. >> > > fs listquota is not enough for you ? (it's a real question, not ironic) fs lq /afs/dementia.org/usr/shadow and tell me the quota. Then vos examine user.shadow -c dementia.org > I kind of disagree for splitting the openafs ports cause as you say some > commands are useful (more or less) for both client and server part, but as > it seems that it's going to be that way, I want the port to be clean and > with no redundancy. > The thing is you can't use the some vos command without a client (vos dump, > restore etc ...) but those commands are not intend to users. vos dump can be used without a client. > > Quoting the openafs administration reference : > > The commands in the vos command suite are the administrative interface to > the Volume Server and Volume Location (VL) Server. System administrators use > vos commands to create, move, delete, replicate, back up and examine > volumes, among other operations. > > But I think you know that but know you see my point. > You could say that I am intimately versed in the functionality of the pieces and their intended and actual purposes. > > > -- > Emmanuel Vadot > elbarto@arcadebsd.org > > -- Derrick From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 14:46:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36011065670 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (melon.pingpong.net [195.178.174.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668838FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AF85084C; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:46:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from melon.pingpong.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (melon.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 70325-01-9; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:46:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.204] (unknown [213.136.40.204]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD13E50848; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:46:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:46:31 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Derrick Brashear , ElBarto Message-ID: <1B1831E49644E24747EAC2A9@girgMac.local> In-Reply-To: References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) Errors-To: girgen+uustuds@pingpong.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pingpong.net Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:46:34 -0000 --On tisdag, ti 16 dec 2008 09.28.21 -0500 Derrick Brashear wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:14 AM, ElBarto wrote: > >> Derrick Brashear wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at >>> two different place ? Seems ugly to me. >>> >>> >>> Sounds subjective to me :) >>> >>> >> >> What do you propose for the path of the redundant binaries ? >> > > Putting the extra copies in sbin This is stupid. Why two copies? What if server and client installations get out of sync? That couldmake problems very hard to debug, since it is hardly really well specified which of bin and sbin that comes first in the path. The user will get confused, at best. It is really a very good argument for just having one port. I see no real reason why there should be a separation. Some client binaries are only needed when the server is installed, hence they need both. There seems to be no clean cut between server and client in the upstream sources (client-only and server-only installations share some binaries, e.g.), then we should not force such a (non-clean) cut into the FreeBSD ports system either. Palle From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 14:56:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BAF106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7992C8FC17 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCbLo-0004wK-Gq; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:56:44 +0300 To: ElBarto References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:56:44 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> (elbarto@arcadebsd.org's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 15\:14\:28 +0100") Message-ID: <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: openafs port(s) in general (was: Re: openafs server executables) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:56:46 -0000 ElBarto writes: > I kind of disagree for splitting the openafs ports cause as you say > some commands are useful (more or less) for both client and server > part, but as it seems that it's going to be that way, I want the port > to be clean and with no redundancy. Let me elaborate on this a little. First off, how the port will look like is a matter of discussion. I'm open to suggestions. As well as someone may take the port I've done and suggest his version. ;-) My intention is following. The main port (say, net/openafs) will be one and will install the whole thing. And there will be some options (say WITH_SERVER_ONLY, WITH_CLIENT_ONLY) which will allow installing the relevant part. (BTW in this case who do care if a slave ports like net/openafs-server and/or openafs-client exist?) While discussing port(s) questions I was told that server and client parts are totally different and don't have anything in common. And if they do have then my ports are wrong. That and only that pushed me to find out which file belongs to which part. If you (read: developers, users and admins of OpenAFS on FreeBSD) give me a definite answer then I'll create such a port. You may even give a triple division: those files are server, those file are client, while those are common! I'll deal with it. Thanks. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 15:44:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14AF1065670 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6229C8FC1B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCc6N-0005YK-4G for freebsd-afs@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:44:51 +0300 To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:44:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> (Boris Samorodov's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 17\:56\:44 +0300") Message-ID: <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:44:52 -0000 Boris Samorodov writes: > If you (read: developers, users and admins of OpenAFS on FreeBSD) give > me a definite answer then I'll create such a port. Hm, I've found an answer. This page seems to be authorative enough: http://www.openafs.org/manpages/index.html WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 16:19:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EAC1065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB558FC13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1808262yxb.13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:19:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yIVllTvqHV/o79CYClNkBoCv0SVg5P6r2ChCFqKTeMQ=; b=lg7ZJGFgQqF0weVhTtw6QubhI3QxxlqyxLXGF2Ign57f+MzPzguqDQ83L5G97xzIm2 i3ZceZ/9ZVWoR8d1N8VzXjkdr/xGNJdQ6xF7R79AmZaGhpzeqHcP12/im9HfZQC0WViJ Qy+oSQ6WhsuyVvgsTXoW6hU26SA+IL5Q61Tvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=adJdCyqRCO8Ii3cyJJGHil/oli7bwyxyDmf9eMhhAYoIqJwtqGJsZYmxp5mztasN3U 5Io9npk0mU/pN8LNyjoFF9v+I+mPxKWoTUiZNe+KKBTddcrfl/nxATxF0FwcQKsfz/X/ 8lKpcA6GYO4jLY7IZjSJ/cPoYRsXLGHdFWPOE= Received: by 10.150.145.20 with SMTP id s20mr14342205ybd.30.1229444369518; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:19:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:19:29 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:19:30 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Boris Samorodov writes: > > > If you (read: developers, users and admins of OpenAFS on FreeBSD) give > > me a definite answer then I'll create such a port. > > Hm, I've found an answer. This page seems to be authorative enough: > http://www.openafs.org/manpages/index.html > > notice some commands (vos) appear in "user" and "administrator"... From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 16:26:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C312106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BA78FC14 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCckV-00065T-0D; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:26:19 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:26:18 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 11\:19\:29 -0500") Message-ID: <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:26:21 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Boris Samorodov writes: >> >> > If you (read: developers, users and admins of OpenAFS on FreeBSD) give >> > me a definite answer then I'll create such a port. >> >> Hm, I've found an answer. This page seems to be authorative enough: >> http://www.openafs.org/manpages/index.html >> > notice some commands (vos) appear in "user" and "administrator"... Didn't find. Which one? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 16:30:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01FD1065673 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6533E8FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1818387yxb.13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:30:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oqh7bEtreLqlbE5JB15qFzj6adr9tcSih1FNiHyG3pc=; b=B+R0tZ0jcQSKzqNpDdYXgAOg9KjunLP715/OCnRvVLRsuVybBas5aQF+Iz322DjvKh oZVokWjrg83gIeXpt48g16BDbRvyyza0m8xIC5OC9JnT4Yh8fy/RzBwjWNY2Cs14KZm0 FHaOvNKzKy8jzxOu5pVfHSyfCs6qCD7YqjfAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=t6iwPOk834JNfAYhH8eY8nLtc5zTkjDzpqcihSq1o/Omdzz6VecJKme8UjwmO4Taix ftDwkuyfQ9nYwluLMGlPjNcmR4EtwM+aVLV/C5muplB8Cwlq9KDGABW7X4S901NkjRc7 Rh7NzH5qleiYQtNHTIYPGCe1gEFvdxvdqw0JI= Received: by 10.151.99.3 with SMTP id b3mr1120794ybm.167.1229445029819; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:30:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:30:29 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:30:30 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > "Derrick Brashear" writes: > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > >> Boris Samorodov writes: > >> > >> > If you (read: developers, users and admins of OpenAFS on FreeBSD) give > >> > me a definite answer then I'll create such a port. > >> > >> Hm, I've found an answer. This page seems to be authorative enough: > >> http://www.openafs.org/manpages/index.html > >> > > notice some commands (vos) appear in "user" and "administrator"... > > Didn't find. Which one? > actually i guess vos is always "user" according to that, which is bunk. you must be an admin to run e.g. vos changeloc, vos addsite, etc... whereas vos examine, not so much. i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) but really what it means is vos_* appears in man1, and the "admin" stuff appears in man8. it's sort of arbitrary. From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 16:49:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E99F106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30908FC14 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCd6U-0006Mp-69; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:49:02 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:49:02 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 11\:30\:29 -0500") Message-ID: <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:49:04 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: > i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) Yes, please. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 17:10:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3091065673 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B19F8FC19 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3457687wfg.7 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:10:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=oSmGlK80nE8e8WoiGm9OeGsWPUqPUM+R+QP7MIK8FHM=; b=QMBfe7V3+FsapuDA8xb6ZNP0dFKsplbK0x+5bLShuu798zuyfGg/c943ENR6ok9DiK 6AJJFsHePxIJixYgIL45GUg0ao1DAjJy/4rZOoGf5CuQvbXmo7QErlCcruKQKWJpGzAv BItDMbK4DgSctCUTVWHwyIyO7vUqy/tl9sr+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VSZLj8boSHD/flPfR7uDhzrC+9g43gaOruOaktP99Gw4zhgpNCXIQGVklcaDSPlp4A slUazufVtp7xRtZST4ppw6uu7615fS5ksM+l+BcCujfwGLw3YFs9NzRp5CE6GKwf3b9T dMYqZTMfNxSuviUxtXvPBqWQTZ1UzO4qlEbxg= Received: by 10.143.37.20 with SMTP id p20mr3387734wfj.51.1229447438777; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.98.8 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:10:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0812160910j92b5514y79652ee889e47423@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:10:38 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Palle Girgensohn" In-Reply-To: <1B1831E49644E24747EAC2A9@girgMac.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <1B1831E49644E24747EAC2A9@girgMac.local> Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:10:39 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > > > --On tisdag, ti 16 dec 2008 09.28.21 -0500 Derrick Brashear > wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:14 AM, ElBarto wrote: >> >>> Derrick Brashear wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So if I install openafs-client and openafs-server I'll have fs at >>>> two different place ? Seems ugly to me. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds subjective to me :) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> What do you propose for the path of the redundant binaries ? >>> >> >> Putting the extra copies in sbin > > This is stupid. Why two copies? What if server and client installations get > out of sync? That couldmake problems very hard to debug, since it is hardly > really well specified which of bin and sbin that comes first in the path. > The user will get confused, at best. > > It is really a very good argument for just having one port. I see no real > reason why there should be a separation. Some client binaries are only > needed when the server is installed, hence they need both. There seems to be > no clean cut between server and client in the upstream sources (client-only > and server-only installations share some binaries, e.g.), then we should not > force such a (non-clean) cut into the FreeBSD ports system either. There are some things that are clearly client, and some that are clearly server, and some that are shared. Now, we could probably argue for a while about exactly which ones are which, but that doesn't need to affect a conceptual breakdown into one or more FreeBSD ports. The three-way division mentioned elsewhere is, in fact, admirably suited to this situation: openafs-base for the shared commands openafs-server (DEPENDS openafs-base) for the server openafs-client (also DEPENDS openafs-base) is the client And one could also make a meta-package openafs that depends on both client and server, if one wants. The concern about having two different versions of fs, etc. is gone; one can even use the version-dependency tracking of FreeBSD ports to insure that the client and server utilities do not get out of sync. -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 17:38:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817941065679 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234328FC1B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCdsb-000703-ML; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:38:45 +0300 To: "Ben Kaduk" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <1B1831E49644E24747EAC2A9@girgMac.local> <47d0403c0812160910j92b5514y79652ee889e47423@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:38:45 +0300 In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0812160910j92b5514y79652ee889e47423@mail.gmail.com> (Ben Kaduk's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 12\:10\:38 -0500") Message-ID: <71288730@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:38:47 -0000 "Ben Kaduk" writes: > The three-way division mentioned elsewhere is, in fact, admirably > suited to this situation: > openafs-base for the shared commands > openafs-server (DEPENDS openafs-base) for the server > openafs-client (also DEPENDS openafs-base) is the client Yes, I meant this when I'd said I could deal with triplex division. Who can actually show the division? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 17:56:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986E61065672 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8288FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 36so1315877yxh.28 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=iq+lJp9m9OheSSW8bcHS956lssd65p93sF4+z2lGIHs=; b=gX9UcsrUMGFCVWzEFEFaNtnvswX9Ws9v3I6/uLnDlmASDcU9nTIvC6PBCCuFF/1gdf J1g0DmHs/SCsPbIxNYCtgd++pN0p/QFLZqWQVeoXEo145/gGivjGt2Wz1jB1i2AXf06S 4235bkJ72A5MY2k+AwCI0LEAO96w/rsmAC6gA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=akMxGEQf35mGjjou7QkSC961BWx6uqubt4Nu9Ua/0S+/cDuZFzCaIsGi9t/DuYpv1N Aa4t9FZsa63ltZiUtuzpKbIQInDeNc5YvwESVMBVMRULAz3O72S7qYIqus3kXUCrERvZ 5wlCXqEK/h+PgiiT5fL6dpIWX2jumiKTNMFwM= Received: by 10.150.191.10 with SMTP id o10mr15165788ybf.156.1229450202334; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:56:42 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:56:43 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > "Derrick Brashear" writes: > > > i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) > > Yes, please. > Actually, it's the wrong solution to the problem. Why are you using *that* web page as the be-all-end-all division of commands? > > > WBR > -- > Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP > FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > -- Derrick From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 18:06:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D1F1065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1FB8FC16 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCeJn-0007Mf-AI; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:06:51 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B153.5060101@arcadebsd.org> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:06:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 12\:56\:42 -0500") Message-ID: <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:06:52 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: >> >> > i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) >> >> Yes, please. > > Actually, it's the wrong solution to the problem. > > Why are you using *that* web page as the be-all-end-all division of > commands? Because there is no better solution. Do you have one? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 18:17:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A4F106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1C8FC16 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so3925226rne.12 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:17:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/HRVhahg35UhsTt2IpRYr9cDpHnAm/CAelPNkMzb3cM=; b=T9wZBcufFicedyS2Jih3F5soGPF39EAs05VsjfF87uNo8dEtLDT/FeLdrHSy/BQ1KY a58ZfwkS+hE1ScdKEkYLd7nZOrvhiCSJdR5zf9DBCUEpAJi+Q/DZXASqyyGGxy13OtaA zOOXxzp8h4R4wFePGT3xuGkzGcAjUsOu1FtZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XGs3ih2lRyj49x/YXEUsvun/HKT2Su3SbFQkLp6j00FPsnzpAmd52EpAmU7UuexZmt lrnFqVVS1+kI5tzsmom0gLAeU+8NznL+6GrARhRl/7QB5Q9F3O35JBpAqTB0WXyHEvS1 NvOeaDij/6HbpCdz+87tgtOjjbuquxMAxWs3k= Received: by 10.151.105.13 with SMTP id h13mr3994183ybm.197.1229451470391; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:17:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:17:50 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:51 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > "Derrick Brashear" writes: > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: > >> > >> > i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) > >> > >> Yes, please. > > > > Actually, it's the wrong solution to the problem. > > > > Why are you using *that* web page as the be-all-end-all division of > > commands? > > Because there is no better solution. Do you have one? > I gave you a list which got ignored, like 4 hours ago. Editing this web page to put the same list in it is any better why? From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 18:44:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB94106564A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A264A8FC28 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCeuN-0007qT-I7; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:44:39 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:44:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 13\:17\:50 -0500") Message-ID: <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:44:41 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: >> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: >> >> >> >> > i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) >> >> >> >> Yes, please. >> > >> > Actually, it's the wrong solution to the problem. >> > >> > Why are you using *that* web page as the be-all-end-all division of >> > commands? >> >> Because there is no better solution. Do you have one? > > I gave you a list which got ignored, like 4 hours ago. Why do you think your list got ignored? ;-) I've been working with it. Then that was an opinion of one person. Nobody voted for it. > Editing this web page > to put the same list in it is any better why? Your mail is your personal opinion. That site is (or am I mistaken?) an official place where to look for information. You know, I could have committed the (openafs) port since I got it build/install/deinstall succesfully. But I'd better don't do it. And discuss a better ways/decisions/etc. at this list. Because since the port gets committed it should reflect official position of those who *can* make decisions: developers, admins, power users. And because it will be (very) hard and/or painful to change the port (it's infrastructure, directory layout) later. One thing to say something while other to do it. Changes to that page (I think) should have been discussed and/or approved by some community. If those changes appear that may influence not only a FreeBSD port. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 18:48:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8471065673 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f13.google.com (mail-gx0-f13.google.com [209.85.217.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0A28FC1D for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so195066gxk.13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:48:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kvMsbnSixwfjTBrSQ8W5RXxICraBS4NWWyTVeBQaHX4=; b=Dh4g/i5/gtXJmHiGMelJmDoM6r4/Qh/uNt2uQmjY3nTZRgdZcbIu4zx6RWr9qhPNqH ai4hNAnC4FxcaxETtjhTD0NijITHeAo63LwXQk+AbUTu181u/liDaMpYcEhzVwwSXUNj 2+tHuKdBsb9kMbI9mw/wNC2ZXHtOEFO9hgFVw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qVjkK0CowkfPK0ChXzKkGMs2VWz61dbPRF3EAV3ZfyW05+5xJ+RokzWbPSZbqVSenA nsgnklcDjOT+N+aDSEpTXWBy8I+s50aDDSUJCshluoOCsSt8IpV/vsYNxqZbEFygHaVm J2eZmfozIz+sroKMXm8rp8Z8HURmyK1AApEjc= Received: by 10.150.195.21 with SMTP id s21mr15224935ybf.51.1229453310293; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:48:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:48:30 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:31 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > "Derrick Brashear" writes: > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: > >> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Boris Samorodov > wrote: > >> >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: > >> >> > >> >> > i could edit the web page in question if it'd help ;) > >> >> > >> >> Yes, please. > >> > > >> > Actually, it's the wrong solution to the problem. > >> > > >> > Why are you using *that* web page as the be-all-end-all division of > >> > commands? > >> > >> Because there is no better solution. Do you have one? > > > > I gave you a list which got ignored, like 4 hours ago. > > Why do you think your list got ignored? ;-) I've been working with it. > Then that was an opinion of one person. Nobody voted for it. > > > Editing this web page > > to put the same list in it is any better why? > > Your mail is your personal opinion. No. My mail reflects how OpenAFS works when you type "make install", which is at least as official as: > That site is (or am I mistaken?) > an official place where to look for information. It is. That I can edit the page (which, again, has nothing to do with where the commands get installed, but reflects only man subdirectories) suggests either my opinion has some bearing, or that I am clever and apply the policy OpenAFS has shaped to my work. I'd like to think it's the latter. > > You know, I could have committed the (openafs) port since I got it > build/install/deinstall succesfully. But I'd better don't do it. > And discuss a better ways/decisions/etc. at this list. Because > since the port gets committed it should reflect official position > of those who *can* make decisions: developers, admins, power users. > And because it will be (very) hard and/or painful to change the port > (it's infrastructure, directory layout) later. > I agree. Better to get it right, now, before people are depending on it. > > One thing to say something while other to do it. Changes to that page (I > think) should have been discussed and/or approved by some community. If > those changes appear that may influence not only a FreeBSD port. > See above. And let me try again to state what seems to be going over your head. That page has nothing to do with what the commands are for. It reflects which man pages are in man1 ("User commands") and which are in man8 ("Administrative commands") That's it. It's not policy, or any such other thing. From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 20:26:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A681065673 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3568FC19 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgV1-000DDW-AF; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:26:35 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCgV1-0000LN-0b; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:26:35 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:26:34 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 13\:48\:30 -0500") Message-ID: <57035445@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:26:37 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: > That page has nothing to do with what the commands are for. It reflects > which man pages are in man1 ("User commands") and which are in man8 > ("Administrative commands") > > That's it. It's not policy, or any such other thing. Hm, OK. I hoped that man pages reflect something meaningful. Thanks. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 20:30:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A87106567A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4B58FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1981539ywe.13 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=oM9QBmvg6dCVhhSByNF7EFVokAF3LpSF8tIOM/jeEO4=; b=pLz3vqb9IKd4eMy7SEzYpG8Ck0wNEH818niqQHiPIkPxtdcYTLLjd2FvkovxcEJFJE yZ0vlIeXELvYNcYY2AeSJK9A7dF8ljRJivOsBMqXq7YHe0+kbMKiNkq7rJZHzvlstXJc E0UtO6iKWFdsjOaeZuGpU818YSMz+RYEAdI3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gOnzB75IgZNmJ8YLJdCHzOuMQg74Kb11tPj4Y4rnuIfHD+gwwtgFutmLpmCK+ry2bY kYE1AA+l5etvIlXfaBpnruxIXQGL5doGBIPLAM9MXnEYKaQLBR2utuFLK0GXf9KR33xy 1x1QAPE+JCs2oe7n/CBODri3Meh6nFLnb6vOY= Received: by 10.151.143.3 with SMTP id v3mr10128801ybn.56.1229459402746; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:30:02 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <57035445@bs1.sp34.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> <57035445@bs1.sp34.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:30:06 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > "Derrick Brashear" writes: > > > That page has nothing to do with what the commands are for. It reflects > > which man pages are in man1 ("User commands") and which are in man8 > > ("Administrative commands") > > > > That's it. It's not policy, or any such other thing. > > Hm, OK. I hoped that man pages reflect something meaningful. They do. Command usage. Trying to read higher meaning from the location of them, less so. From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 21:46:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2437A1065672 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6628FC23 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBGKUjJm001943; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:30:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947B7C4.8030004@arcadebsd.org> <35608451_-_@bb.ipt.ru> <69525564@bb.ipt.ru> <03443077@bb.ipt.ru> <37361713@bb.ipt.ru> <39127044@bb.ipt.ru> <57049240@bb.ipt.ru> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:30:44 -0500 To: Boris Samorodov , "Derrick Brashear" From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.10 () [Hold at 20.00] COMBINED_FROM X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.227 Cc: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: openafs port(s) in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:46:00 -0000 At 9:44 PM +0300 12/16/08, Boris Samorodov wrote: >"Derrick Brashear" writes: > >> Editing this web page >> to put the same list in it is any better why? > >Your mail is your personal opinion. That site is (or am I mistaken?) >an official place where to look for information. > >You know, I could have committed the (openafs) port since I got it >build/install/deinstall succesfully. But I'd better don't do it. >And discuss a better ways/decisions/etc. at this list. Because >since the port gets committed it should reflect official position >of those who *can* make decisions: developers, admins, power users. >And because it will be (very) hard and/or painful to change the port >(it's infrastructure, directory layout) later. > >One thing to say something while other to do it. Changes to that >page (I think) should have been discussed and/or approved by some >community. If those changes appear that may influence not only a >FreeBSD port. Note that Derrick's opinion is much Much more experienced than the average "person on the street" when it comes to OpenAFS. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 22:02:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603091065670 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B08D8FC25 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LChzu-000DpU-ST for freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:02:34 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LChzu-0000Pa-Eu for freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:02:34 +0300 To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:02:34 +0300 Message-ID: <90959685@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: asetkey (and aklog) is not build X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:02:36 -0000 Hello List, I've just find out that asetkey (and aklog) is not build by the port. That seems to be a result of ignoring src/aklog. While an official package at OpenAFS site contains it at atdest/root.server/usr/afs/bin directory (aklog is at dest/bin). README says that aklog is not needed because heimdal afslog does (almost) the same thing. But nothing is said about asetkey. I'm not sure if I messed up my config. Can anybody confirm if the problem exists? Or maybe this file may be skipped (since it uses only kerberos v4)? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 22:14:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8A81065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59208FC2D for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBGMEb9Q004135 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:14:37 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4BF4FCCBD1DE; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:14:37 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42316CCBD1D4; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:14:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49482843.1020304@linuxbox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:14:27 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <90959685@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: <90959685@bs1.sp34.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:14:38 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: asetkey (and aklog) is not build X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:14:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, The asetkey and aklog programs are part of the openafs client and server suite, respectively, which should be available. FWIW, one reason for these not building in ordinary openafs compiles (if that's an issue?) is failure to identify a working kerberos build environment (configure that includes - --with-krb5-config=/usr/bin/krb5-config would help, in that case). I apologize if that no longer makes sense in the port build framework, which I haven't experimented with, yet. Matt Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hello List, > > > I've just find out that asetkey (and aklog) is not build by the > port. That seems to be a result of ignoring src/aklog. While an > official package at OpenAFS site contains it at > atdest/root.server/usr/afs/bin directory (aklog is at dest/bin). > > README says that aklog is not needed because heimdal afslog does > (almost) the same thing. But nothing is said about asetkey. > > I'm not sure if I messed up my config. Can anybody confirm if the > problem exists? Or maybe this file may be skipped (since it uses > only kerberos v4)? > > > WBR - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSChDJiSUUSaRdSURCBnGAJ42tIMC86CF/UrdK98Fw0uer+1ubgCgjnHq tKNs4Laexh8jnw66AGtCtfE= =/HUo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 22:49:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963101065675 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB558FC14 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCijD-000E3G-0G; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:49:23 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCijC-0000R1-Fb; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:49:22 +0300 To: Matt Benjamin References: <90959685@bs1.sp34.ru> <49482843.1020304@linuxbox.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:49:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <49482843.1020304@linuxbox.com> (Matt Benjamin's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 17\:14\:27 -0500") Message-ID: <24876877_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: [solved] Re: asetkey (and aklog) is not build X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:49:24 -0000 Matt Benjamin writes: > Hi, > > The asetkey and aklog programs are part of the openafs client and server > suite, respectively, which should be available. > > FWIW, one reason for these not building in ordinary openafs compiles (if > that's an issue?) Matt, you were right once more. That was the issue. > is failure to identify a working kerberos build > environment (configure that includes > --with-krb5-config=/usr/bin/krb5-config would help, in that case). I --with-krb5-conf=/usr/bin/krb5-config helped (mind option name). Great, thanks! > apologize if that no longer makes sense in the port build framework, > which I haven't experimented with, yet. Seems just fine imho. > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> >> I've just find out that asetkey (and aklog) is not build by the >> port. That seems to be a result of ignoring src/aklog. While an >> official package at OpenAFS site contains it at >> atdest/root.server/usr/afs/bin directory (aklog is at dest/bin). >> >> README says that aklog is not needed because heimdal afslog does >> (almost) the same thing. But nothing is said about asetkey. >> >> I'm not sure if I messed up my config. Can anybody confirm if the >> problem exists? Or maybe this file may be skipped (since it uses >> only kerberos v4)? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 23:26:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B051065674 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C378FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCjJF-000EHX-Mv; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:26:37 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCjJF-0000T3-3C; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:26:37 +0300 To: "Matt Benjamin" , freebsd-afs@freebsd.org References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:26:37 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 08\:37\:49 -0500") Message-ID: <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:26:39 -0000 Hello Derrick and All, "Derrick Brashear" writes: > Two copies of fs, vos, pts, bos, kas, asetkey, tokens, udebug, klog get > installed normally. you want copies of at least fs, vos, bos, asetkey, > udebug, pts (maybe not klog, tokens) in server, even if they are installed > elsewhere in client. I've taken the second list as a rule. Let me show what I managed to get. This is a list of executables. ===== Common binaries (should be installed always): ----- bin/ asetkey bos fs pts udebug sbin/ vos ----- Server binaries: ----- libexec/openafs/ buserver fileserver kaserver ptserver salvager upclient upserver vlserver volserver sbin/ aklog bosserver ka-forwarder kadb_check kdb kpwvalid prdb_check pt_util rmtsysd vldb_check vldb_convert voldump volinfo vsys ----- Client binaries: ----- bin/ afsmonitor cmdebug dlog dpass klog klog.krb knfs kpasswd livesys pagsh pagsh.krb scout sys tokens tokens.krb unlog up xstat_cm_test xstat_fs_test sbin/ afsd ----- ===== Changes/fixes/else? WBR -- bsam Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 23:35:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCF61065677 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA5B8FC08 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3631129wfg.7 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:35:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TXZ1i0O736ivKvKYQpsKMxAd27rpiE0rkij6Hrq32dU=; b=eqyZ1bkteQ2/zts5yw8+Cy/rUIhkNV8sNV9+CZwkwWd+p9UsQH5nXtJr28JI/FZDTK CoTIDZeWv8IRyYQbVvUw5XXPJ8KDHNqra19l48S2yXGCmy929RcWJtJ5JrMEg3XFc4yo eZD4UmQ87qC+IEryvgU1x2RZJUBOYPXiBBYAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=gfDC+fPdsKnYhdcJB5tf+X2cLN857vYJx9MJuflMioulVaGZcY29jIvwe3QHuGZuJi iMzLkBZCB4coX+Nm06tyNGwtjFmnfFOHoxhrRQOsXGy6hhNZgm1DyeYT9xFU453PIaNa XevhjlSEN1S6pcQ7vy1tKlhiIGYWDuhpMGIrc= Received: by 10.142.139.14 with SMTP id m14mr10594wfd.100.1229470522065; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.98.8 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:35:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:35:22 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:35:22 -0000 On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Hello Derrick and All, > > "Derrick Brashear" writes: > >> Two copies of fs, vos, pts, bos, kas, asetkey, tokens, udebug, klog get >> installed normally. you want copies of at least fs, vos, bos, asetkey, >> udebug, pts (maybe not klog, tokens) in server, even if they are installed >> elsewhere in client. > > I've taken the second list as a rule. Let me show what I managed to > get. This is a list of executables. > ===== > Common binaries (should be installed always): > ----- > bin/ > asetkey > bos > fs > pts > udebug > sbin/ > vos > ----- > > Server binaries: > ----- > libexec/openafs/ > buserver > fileserver > kaserver > ptserver > salvager > upclient > upserver > vlserver > volserver > sbin/ > aklog > bosserver > ka-forwarder > kadb_check > kdb > kpwvalid > prdb_check > pt_util > rmtsysd > vldb_check > vldb_convert > voldump > volinfo > vsys > ----- > > Client binaries: > ----- > bin/ > afsmonitor > cmdebug > dlog > dpass > klog > klog.krb > knfs > kpasswd > livesys > pagsh > pagsh.krb > scout > sys > tokens > tokens.krb > unlog > up > xstat_cm_test > xstat_fs_test > sbin/ > afsd > ----- > ===== > > Changes/fixes/else? I thought aklog was a client utility, but everything else looks okay to my (limited) experience. -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 23:47:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BA11065675 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930CC8FC08 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBGNldvk031930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:47:39 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 3B401CCBD1E2; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:47:39 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D633C0BE98A; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:47:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49483E11.7020202@linuxbox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:47:29 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:47:39 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:47:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 aklog is a client utility. as far as I know, too, asetkey is only useful on server machines (add keys to KeyFile) Ben Kaduk wrote: u> > > I thought aklog was a client utility, but everything else looks okay > to my (limited) experience. > > -Ben Kaduk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-afs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-afs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-afs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSD4RJiSUUSaRdSURCHenAKCCtzk51Nc8d12ll/S6EL6fia9tHACbBxzD tuDbLmNMTrQzdd/8Qm5WAsE= =eijb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 16 23:49:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89A01065676 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFE08FC1B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBGNmxhH027339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:59 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CE4DEC0BE98A; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:59 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3E4CCBD1E2; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49483E60.5030502@linuxbox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:48 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <90959685@bs1.sp34.ru> <49482843.1020304@linuxbox.com> <24876877_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: <24876877_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:48:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [solved] Re: asetkey (and aklog) is not build X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:49:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I'm sorry, Ben, Boris was listening to me, probably, and I had these two reversed, below. Matt Boris Samorodov wrote: > Matt Benjamin writes: > >> Hi, >> >> The asetkey and aklog programs are part of the openafs client and server >> suite, respectively, which should be available. - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSD5gJiSUUSaRdSURCHVyAKCNapNK0Em+zHEqPLfhpytEaHA67ACghSwP zKiiASTFpYC8ZZCrcoATQOM= =/U/A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 08:02:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD861065672 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010F58FC13 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCrMq-000GxE-BP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:02:52 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LCrMq-0000KT-5e; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:02:52 +0300 To: "Ben Kaduk" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:02:52 +0300 In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> (Ben Kaduk's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 18\:35\:22 -0500") Message-ID: <92714739@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:02:54 -0000 "Ben Kaduk" writes: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> Hello Derrick and All, >> >> "Derrick Brashear" writes: >> >>> Two copies of fs, vos, pts, bos, kas, asetkey, tokens, udebug, klog get >>> installed normally. you want copies of at least fs, vos, bos, asetkey, >>> udebug, pts (maybe not klog, tokens) in server, even if they are installed >>> elsewhere in client. >> >> I've taken the second list as a rule. Let me show what I managed to >> get. This is a list of executables. [the list was here] >> Changes/fixes/else? > > I thought aklog was a client utility, but everything else looks okay > to my (limited) experience. Ben, Matt, I've got it, thanks. Here is the fixed list. ===== Common binaries (should be installed always): ----- bin/ asetkey bos fs pts udebug sbin/ vos ----- Server binaries: ----- libexec/openafs/ buserver fileserver kaserver ptserver salvager upclient upserver vlserver volserver sbin/ bosserver ka-forwarder kadb_check kdb kpwvalid prdb_check pt_util rmtsysd vldb_check vldb_convert voldump volinfo vsys ----- Client binaries: ----- bin/ afsmonitor aklog cmdebug dlog dpass klog klog.krb knfs kpasswd livesys pagsh pagsh.krb scout sys tokens tokens.krb unlog up xstat_cm_test xstat_fs_test sbin/ afsd ----- ===== WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 09:49:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B8B1065676 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531AA8FC13 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCt27-000JJZ-Lk; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:49:35 +0300 To: ElBarto References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:49:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> (elbarto@arcadebsd.org's message of "Tue\, 16 Dec 2008 14\:40\:56 +0100") Message-ID: <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:49:37 -0000 ElBarto writes: > Well, > For the client you only need all the binaries for mounting an afs > server (don't know exactly which ones). > This is the list I suggest : [list was here] > > $PREFIX/sbin/fstrace > $PREFIX/sbin/kpwvalid > $PREFIX/sbin/rxdebug I'm not sure either but it seems to me that those might belong to a server part. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 13:47:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86055106564A for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A1A8FC1A for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBHDlGbS024741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:47:17 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 9D5E4DAE0537; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:47:16 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE00DAE0528; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:47:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <494902DA.6000303@linuxbox.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:47:06 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:47:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:47:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> $PREFIX/sbin/kpwvalid >> $PREFIX/sbin/rxdebug > > I'm not sure either but it seems to me that those might belong to > a server part. > > > WBR My impression is rxdebug -- used everywhere for troubleshooting, valuable to have on any afs host (both/base) fstrace -- like cmdebug, is used (infrequently, afaik) to debug client problems (client) kpwvalid -- support utility for kas kpasswd (KPWVALID(8)). Perhaps not critical what is done with this, but is part of kas/kaserver client infrastructure. (client) Matt - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSQLaJiSUUSaRdSURCJdJAJ0RtEJZgPQDWZNtxR687WY2+jpIBQCcDTfS gRj8hs9nVjK8CKrxl3uqpBw= =yVop -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 13:49:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05B9106564A for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783558FC13 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2277682ywe.13 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:49:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wEvNr12WGo2kMBZf+4g46VaFKgBAFszaoA8w57OPCr4=; b=tZUhcVGeL0XpVgAgW1cOn0I2OqdtYTVgaxtMjr1cY93QAHd1I4V0jYxH0fIBhP+cTh JPEogJ7FG64jKu1erGKtpYi27gT6xKBj9dP+2GlCXTk2z4p55dyJsUoL82YiFC/wxmQR rWa7Fw4POic6ZK0i1OuLWz8ITO4S0hVT7Bycw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NaxledvbHGWbDRur0PTxFpMnhqhp20fTjX8SJg0KFKQ5HWm/J/YV4tDM8BEWRF/MCh vapLesWzBMWOHSi79yh/NNPV5Ins+peVCQhA3W38xd++QDYyBjczPb5VAOHZMP6Ul5Nd osWyCRaVY5bxaAopXb/0wCnIqVAgkTFZepQSY= Received: by 10.150.189.9 with SMTP id m9mr1371782ybf.231.1229521760474; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:49:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:49:20 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <92714739@bs1.sp34.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> <92714739@bs1.sp34.ru> Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:49:21 -0000 >> I thought aklog was a client utility, but everything else looks okay >> to my (limited) experience. > > Ben, Matt, I've got it, thanks. Here is the fixed list. > ===== > Common binaries (should be installed always): > ----- > bin/ > asetkey asetkey is server-only. it exists to create KeyFiles, which for security purposes you should *only* do on a server. > bos > fs > pts > udebug > sbin/ > vos > ----- > > Server binaries: > ----- > libexec/openafs/ > buserver > fileserver > kaserver > ptserver > salvager > upclient > upserver > vlserver > volserver > sbin/ > bosserver > ka-forwarder > kadb_check > kdb > kpwvalid > prdb_check > pt_util > rmtsysd > vldb_check > vldb_convert > voldump > volinfo > vsys > ----- > > Client binaries: > ----- > bin/ > afsmonitor > aklog > cmdebug > dlog > dpass > klog > klog.krb > knfs > kpasswd > livesys > pagsh > pagsh.krb > scout > sys > tokens > tokens.krb > unlog > up > xstat_cm_test > xstat_fs_test > sbin/ > afsd > ----- > ===== > > > WBR > -- > Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP > FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-afs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-afs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-afs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Derrick From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 13:57:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C001065673 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70748FC25 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shadow@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so4463734rne.12 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:57:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=p9lo2D3K1Op2adN8nM4Eaz3um0pZRUbzBxIH2fwakrw=; b=XUvXsZ/UruaL6RYS7xT5LwZXhNmUrS0sFlx97tqaXiaqqDkTzjADxO8ZAQEIanIYEv H7hYu79BYJdiWE0aK68L6xL5/35CNuuJTcAJKP83sV3nQK0hI/RV+GFHxDHBBI6xjUmU 3hoVCVq1WMbtJ87/BRygf05yAEE4MKCTyyMRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=F12FQTiE/S7NJIXzlA9leJwVNArPWAPw2sFW+kav8/bqIta1ckA1HbWRn6SXvH3V1f 9ZrXezU+j4Nbtyo7zCvdqpy253uzIfkH30LNAZA2Vf/hfoimsUMi0xgQBKcFJpWChZke dt6oyKpPPsqJ9Esqhgok8Ug9qcgb7bDL/kdRo= Received: by 10.150.121.6 with SMTP id t6mr1429095ybc.93.1229522226932; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.153.1 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:57:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:57:06 -0500 From: "Derrick Brashear" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:57:08 -0000 On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > ElBarto writes: > >> Well, >> For the client you only need all the binaries for mounting an afs >> server (don't know exactly which ones). >> This is the list I suggest : > [list was here] >> >> $PREFIX/sbin/fstrace >> $PREFIX/sbin/kpwvalid >> $PREFIX/sbin/rxdebug > > I'm not sure either but it seems to me that those might belong to > a server part. fstrace is client only, it debugs the client itself. rxdebug is universal. it can debug any rx service, client or server. kpwvalid is server only. fstrace, unlike cmdebug, must be run on the client. cmdebug, like rxdebug, can be *run* anywhere as it's a network probe. From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 13:59:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC02E1065675 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from aa.linuxbox.com (aa.linuxbox.com [134.215.213.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D3C8FC1B for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@linuxbox.com) Received: from trosper.private.linuxbox.com (trosper.private.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.45]) by aa.linuxbox.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mBHDxgpj020268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:59:42 -0500 Received: by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 5EF8CDAE0537; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:59:42 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on trosper.private.linuxbox.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.1.1.217]) by trosper.private.linuxbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F42DAE0528; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:59:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <494905C3.20308@linuxbox.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:59:31 -0500 From: Matt Benjamin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derrick Brashear References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (aa.linuxbox.com [10.1.1.1]); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:59:42 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:59:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I shouldn't have commented on that one. I've never run a kaserver. Matt Derrick Brashear wrote: kpwvalid is > server only - -- Matt Benjamin The Linux Box 206 South Fifth Ave. Suite 150 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 http://linuxbox.com tel. 734-761-4689 fax. 734-769-8938 cel. 734-216-5309 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSQXDJiSUUSaRdSURCEHnAJ4totifuqPVQsDZxNgnvwJtXVTx3wCfRDWk 4Zfjs/uVR1hBDja41IXm/z4= =KRcO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 14:16:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A401065677 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABE98FC28 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCxCI-000Mhq-1g; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:16:22 +0300 To: Matt Benjamin References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> <494902DA.6000303@linuxbox.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:16:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <494902DA.6000303@linuxbox.com> (Matt Benjamin's message of "Wed\, 17 Dec 2008 08\:47\:06 -0500") Message-ID: <05180009@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:16:24 -0000 Matt Benjamin writes: > Boris Samorodov wrote: >>> $PREFIX/sbin/kpwvalid >>> $PREFIX/sbin/rxdebug >> >> I'm not sure either but it seems to me that those might belong to >> a server part. >> >> >> WBR > > My impression is > > rxdebug -- used everywhere for troubleshooting, valuable to have on any > afs host (both/base) Added to common_sbin_file_list. > fstrace -- like cmdebug, is used (infrequently, afaik) to debug client > problems (client) > > kpwvalid -- support utility for kas kpasswd (KPWVALID(8)). Perhaps not > critical what is done with this, but is part of kas/kaserver client > infrastructure. (client) Both added to client_sbin_file_list. Thanks! All files were added to sbin directory since by default those files are installed to sbin directory. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 14:17:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4501065676 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C871D8FC1E for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCxDE-000Mip-FV; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:17:20 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <37396849@bs1.sp34.ru> <01705453@bs1.sp34.ru> <49453004.9010107@linuxbox.com> <83768316_-_@bs1.sp34.ru> <71276786@bs1.sp34.ru> <47d0403c0812161535h565d360cx42827034eede500a@mail.gmail.com> <92714739@bs1.sp34.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:17:20 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Wed\, 17 Dec 2008 08\:49\:20 -0500") Message-ID: <39109951@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openafs server executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:17:22 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: >> bin/ >> asetkey > > asetkey is server-only. it exists to create KeyFiles, which for > security purposes you should *only* do on a server. Got it, thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 14:30:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6831065741 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FF58FC13 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LCxPR-000MsX-98; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:29:57 +0300 To: "Derrick Brashear" References: <60571528@bs1.sp34.ru> <01693389@bb.ipt.ru> <4946E27E.1050803@arcadebsd.org> <49841540@bs1.sp34.ru> <4947AFE8.3010506@arcadebsd.org> <03437088@bb.ipt.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:29:57 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Derrick Brashear's message of "Wed\, 17 Dec 2008 08\:57\:06 -0500") Message-ID: <57023658@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary mtree for openafs port(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:30:00 -0000 "Derrick Brashear" writes: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> ElBarto writes: >> >>> Well, >>> For the client you only need all the binaries for mounting an afs >>> server (don't know exactly which ones). >>> This is the list I suggest : >> [list was here] >>> >>> $PREFIX/sbin/fstrace >>> $PREFIX/sbin/kpwvalid >>> $PREFIX/sbin/rxdebug >> >> I'm not sure either but it seems to me that those might belong to >> a server part. > > fstrace is client only, it debugs the client itself. rxdebug is > universal. it can debug any rx service, client or server. kpwvalid is > server only. > fstrace, unlike cmdebug, must be run on the client. cmdebug, like > rxdebug, can be *run* anywhere as it's a network probe. OK, thank you for your help! So far I've written a script which installs all files to apropriate locations. There are some minor questions left, but this part of a port (binary mtree) seems to be done soon. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 17 19:51:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D391065679 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C0C8FC1B for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so108452yxb.13 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:51:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RnGMhYHbk3SKfN/kHJniuf5liOwa3XEouK0muF1W6VU=; b=g/z7tMRdWtVjTw1txeelQT/58K8MvF6bviwqyig0Sgw1b01z+ksZ9l0ybtSuNUUK5N jSZ36ETyidVtjMpGkcC1KdmX63hERrZeLp6jIkT2tDE5/rJ+bCLjuY+snkenJfTVprfh dnl+0xRBr6T1PoU26mGID3A13CqYQqKPgvzJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wgKRU749UE3NpzJXNnyN/5i5oouqJhx75uw7j6F6CA8A26rzgVZc9r13LwRBMhXT4f M7GdoiQvA1pgk9/7lGouwndqYp8m/vqFtEGtmyADHKwM4adn5nA7b121i6h1rYfnIy6s u6BI4C9xTHZq9Q4G1Ts1ulaIcx0XUXtCtHggY= Received: by 10.142.238.4 with SMTP id l4mr435836wfh.242.1229543483490; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.98.8 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:51:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0812171151s5153b68qf460d19d7a66687f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:51:23 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Matt Benjamin" In-Reply-To: <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47d0403c0812131824i489c50c6w456e62e43ecabdeb@mail.gmail.com> <494475C2.7000303@linuxbox.com> Cc: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org, Derrick J Brashear Subject: Re: Changes to OpenAFS to support FreeBSD 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-afs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: The Andrew File System and FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:51:25 -0000 On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Matt Benjamin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Ben, > > I got your previous email, but wasn't sure I could get to this. I > haven't in fact been focused on 8-CURRENT, but on vnode locking and > refcounting correctness across 7.0 to 8-CURRENT. (Making headway...) > > Anyway, I set that aside and whacked through a similar effort. The > things you got sound right to me, though I'm surprised krx and > afs_server.c compiled, but, it might have to do with whether you have > network stack virtualization enabled. The module doesn't load > presumably because of unresolved externals--here either the > aforementioned (like in_ifaddrhead), and probably "suser(thread)" which > is gone, replaced with "priv_check(thread)" (what makes me think that > one won't be around long). > > Openafs-1.4.8 (openafs.org) with RT # 123933 compiles and loads, as > above, but I have not run the code, it's just to block something in, ATM. > It's possible that I'm doing something wrong, but I'm getting panics with returning from a syscall with a lock held. I have a project that I need to finish up for my classes, here, so I shouldn't spend more time on this for a few days. If anyone really wants a core before then, let me know, but I'm pretty sure that my libafs.ko doesn't have debugging symbols, so it's probably not worth it. Just FYI, Ben Kaduk