From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 06:13:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4E91065687 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leafy7382@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F57C8FC25 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leafy7382@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so54561tid.3 for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:13:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=HPZdJHawEQiX4wO2Q6eCRXFw5iie9XnxxuKPlT5U6fw=; b=ahy5m3Jq2xBOUINGp0c91PGUqmfF2vfb7Esmh+KH94FW5+ccwJYrsfeQUdMOnpZFo0 4f0KNWx/RIEHRjw6q0c4uSq3qrWVu0fhXhwrtOYCtN/j1qV2dGdx2kavmv9CWnB9VMV2 Yxd1hbSNOq5arjzoTB6yAKhbUk1DXjZSUYPlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=gDDJvxz+0TtFGm8I1cQlKJF6d0SrQvamLeVtHyo4vQb0cINaUWYHKmeq1Z+1T2qxar ZI+V2Onb6QY3JiTXg9KVCaOZIUAzUmbjfX7ZIHB3jURPJtrF0sUW3SY2wd6vo3vlc4Cd cVAHq2q+8B0AcdZcEsEvEtoNzYFtHEOxElPY8= Received: by 10.110.46.14 with SMTP id t14mr24708tit.28.1215150509615; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.15.16 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:48:29 +0800 From: "Jiawei Ye" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Apple to adopt ULE scheduler in next version of OS/X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:13:12 -0000 I came across this interesting piece of blog entry http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/os-x-snow-leopard-to-use-ule-scheduler/ Comments anyone? -- "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then to the end user it's a duck, and end users have made it pretty clear they want a duck; whether the duck drinks hot chocolate or coffee is irrelevant." From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 10:09:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547E91065671 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DAF8FC15 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32AC2049; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:09:07 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Jiawei Ye" References: Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:09:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Jiawei Ye's message of "Fri\, 4 Jul 2008 13\:48\:29 +0800") Message-ID: <863amqhsfw.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apple to adopt ULE scheduler in next version of OS/X? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:09:09 -0000 "Jiawei Ye" writes: > I came across this interesting piece of blog entry > > http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/os-x-snow-leopard-to-use-ule-scheduler/ > > Comments anyone? Short version: bullshit. The slightly longer version is that this is unfounded speculation - not even that, it's just a random blogger expressing a wish that Apple would do something which they most likely have no reason for or interest in doing. It also greatly exaggerates the benefits of ULE. It's good, but it's not a revolutionary breakthrough in computer science. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 23:42:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C331065672 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (g1.stradamotorsports.com [64.81.163.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748D58FC19 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m64NPtUM096555 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <486EB18B.90408@highperformance.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:26:03 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <863amqhsfw.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <863amqhsfw.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_20, SOME_BREAKTHROUGH autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Scrappy BSD-ophiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:42:15 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Short version: bullshit. > > The slightly longer version is that this is unfounded speculation - not > even that, it's just a random blogger expressing a wish that Apple would > do something which they most likely have no reason for or interest in > doing. > > It also greatly exaggerates the benefits of ULE. It's good, but it's > not a revolutionary breakthrough in computer science. What I really want to know is, "Who would win in a fight, Theo de Raadt or Dag-Erling Smørgrav?" Never mind what Brian Boitano would do. :) Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 00:57:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE341065673 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A538B8FC12 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 00:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 12753 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2008 00:31:17 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Jul 2008 00:31:17 -0000 Message-ID: <486EBE69.7030804@telenix.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:20:57 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <863amqhsfw.fsf@ds4.des.no> <486EB18B.90408@highperformance.net> In-Reply-To: <486EB18B.90408@highperformance.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Scrappy BSD-ophiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:57:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jason C. Wells wrote: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Short version: bullshit. >> >> The slightly longer version is that this is unfounded speculation - not >> even that, it's just a random blogger expressing a wish that Apple would >> do something which they most likely have no reason for or interest in >> doing. >> >> It also greatly exaggerates the benefits of ULE. It's good, but it's >> not a revolutionary breakthrough in computer science. > > What I really want to know is, "Who would win in a fight, Theo de Raadt > or Dag-Erling Smørgrav?" Never mind what Brian Boitano would do. :) That absolutely depends on what's being tested. Seeing as I like being able to sleep without a bodyguard, I am not going to get any more specific. I remember some classic TDR rants .... (shut up, Chuck!) As far as the Apple stuff goes, I forgot until just now, but I've read very nearly identical things from Apple-aficionados at nearly every major turn of the Apple trek. They almost use the same language, and honestly has never been a big consideration. Think about, you can remember earlier posts too, can't you? > > Regards, > Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhuvmkACgkQz62J6PPcoOkIBACgmHtn9VxcUQ20NEBA8SXWyjs+ W/kAnAhukjBngxAFNuJROvUEU2jx+aSj =dzw9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----