From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 30 15:36:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD58106567E for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0975E8FC12 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.161]) by wingspan with esmtp; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:36:39 -0400 id 00056454.4868FD87.0000E66A From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Simon In-Reply-To: <1195160114.4042.154.camel@new-host> References: <20071114122210.42E8613C4BB@mx1.freebsd.org> <1195160114.4042.154.camel@new-host> Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:36:38 -0400 Message-Id: <1214840198.18670.43.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Cc: Sean McAfee , Jason Thomson , scottl@freebsd.org, Benjie Chen , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PERC5 (LSI MegaSAS) Patrol Read crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:36:41 -0000 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 15:55 -0500, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: > Normally I'd be praising Dell, but I think a little vendor bashing is > due here. All: Just to follow up, we've been running these 1st-generation 2950s in our lab with RHEl5.2 x86_64 for ~3 weeks w/o any disk or I/O problems. It must have been some random bug with the FreeBSD mfi(4) that only affected that revision of the PERC5, or, since the motherboard/CPU family/chipset is entirely different in R2 and R3, something with FreeBSD and how it was handling the controller (ACPI?) We never had any stability problems with R2 and R3 on RELENG_6_3 on the 2950 or 1950. >From now on we'll wait for R2 before we go anywhere near new Dell gear. What do you think the chances of them dumping LSI for Acera and Broadcom for Intel? :) ~BAS > Its a software bug (driver). It can probably be easily fixed. I > think there's a PR on it somewhere (will check). -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 30 16:47:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECCA10656AA for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CEA8FC14 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5UGSXKA078251; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:28:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <486909B1.3020309@samsco.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:28:33 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com References: <20071114122210.42E8613C4BB@mx1.freebsd.org> <1195160114.4042.154.camel@new-host> <1214840198.18670.43.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <1214840198.18670.43.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: Sean McAfee , scottl@freebsd.org, Jason Thomson , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , Benjie Chen Subject: Re: PERC5 (LSI MegaSAS) Patrol Read crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:47:33 -0000 Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 15:55 -0500, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: >> Normally I'd be praising Dell, but I think a little vendor bashing is >> due here. > > All: > > Just to follow up, we've been running these 1st-generation 2950s in our > lab with RHEl5.2 x86_64 for ~3 weeks w/o any disk or I/O problems. > > It must have been some random bug with the FreeBSD mfi(4) that only > affected that revision of the PERC5, or, since the motherboard/CPU > family/chipset is entirely different in R2 and R3, something with > FreeBSD and how it was handling the controller (ACPI?) > > We never had any stability problems with R2 and R3 on RELENG_6_3 on the > 2950 or 1950. > >>From now on we'll wait for R2 before we go anywhere near new Dell > gear. > > What do you think the chances of them dumping LSI for Acera and Broadcom > for Intel? :) > > ~BAS > >> Its a software bug (driver). It can probably be easily fixed. I >> think there's a PR on it somewhere (will check). The problem is a firmware bug in the Megaraid SAS controller. It seems that while the controller can handle 512 or more concurrent commands, it can only handle 128 concurrent commands to each array. Patrols reads aren't the primary cause, they just help the problem appear; when a patrol read cycle runs, it tends to slow down i/o enough that commands to the array get backed up, and you tend to reach the 128 limit. I don't know if there is a firmware fix from Dell/LSI, or if there will ever be a fix. FreeBSD drivers tend to stress hardware a lot more than Linux and Windows do, and since the latter two are used as the QA yardstick, anything that doesn't affect them doesn't usually get fixed. An easy work-around for the driver is to change the following line in /sys/dev/mfi/mfi.c::mfi_alloc_commands() ncmds = sc->mfi_max_fw_cmds; to ncmds = 128; A more complete solution requires me writing an i/o scheduler in the driver, something that would take quite a bit of effort. With all this said, I still stand behind LSI controllers. This bug, while unfortunate, is relatively minor and easy to work around, and it's the only significant bug that has turned up in over two and half years with this hardware. Scott From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 30 21:05:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041B9106564A for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felipebgn@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAB78FC15 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felipebgn@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so542926nfh.33 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:05:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=gTNxHMdy5tqdVrnT28PYSaN5SuQ0rPgqQVYggLIVYMI=; b=Wx2OSNuRUmY9OYMxVFj4yyStk7FgBgw8vFI6ZfzfoE3H5pOT1ZbkKnTA4J83bB5tN9 8sQ45tniEGvXOlCV+sjHbldC2bptVJ27ON44EvzxfJN2pbIbAUJr9Jj8+kGNlU8i2w9F VlJVzU5pFt2LhlNwiJgGPDr27sibrMKijQ120= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=K/gV5mSuw1kLHW92NVTC7xiw07aR9jwicPGT6xwYRW88bciFVL05X3YWcDBOTAgaJv O4qBxSP+qWL9j5PVZG8aAXqpzOwSDryXwV/CWTk6kUqNmC3f7DdHBfUlNBHYqxf/bSQ0 DBz84tLF8D/1Oxa8XRwf0qqmJdNdRojtuh0As= Received: by 10.210.58.17 with SMTP id g17mr4564535eba.190.1214858334674; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.19.16 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <928b5da90806301338g748ec7e6y1ef0531b43fbf164@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:38:54 -0300 From: "Felipe Neuwald" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD and IBM Blades X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:05:46 -0000 Hi All, Does anybody running FreeBSD on IBM Blades? If yes (or no), can tell me about your experience? Thanks, Felipe Neuwald. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 09:46:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E288106564A for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A808FC19 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so678401mue.3 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CR+3wOYX02Ox3A9pb8AtgSA9/2pDjxU1ruxQbCcV/w8=; b=hvBU2meB7kOh/IdygqLyaDbJ7lsIpDuFdWLS4doRR7ArpeJ2k3R9KKv6JEPpq8Qt7I 5y2b5DZdJzez4lHhNvVlwlTSWaY/upjN/W40wS3flEysR0m5+CYVRRfAn4711eQc4hbU GC4rIvpkEeWCL9RmlplgfVI9sbj5uC9bJOMkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wjnkjapj7S83rI+FJ5JBfoUEDIw/ASJHNkIyzy8lZ/+/0NVwH3//HQcUUWwUD4/wIS lwpp0W+Y+GylaXHfpK705M0pS/fKlgTjb2ObJorndDcIU7YdUV8n//r/45zwr5Xia7t7 yM2T3pyJ75/huhZUs3o1vNXCOhCUDprflGwik= Received: by 10.103.23.20 with SMTP id a20mr2802168muj.128.1214905595649; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.214.9 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 02:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:46:35 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" In-Reply-To: <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Cc: Danny Carroll , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:46:37 -0000 > Fourth, because you'll likely have multiple disks in a ZFS zpool, you > should probably be aware of the problem that haunts some users from time > to time (re: DMA errors). > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting Reading that page i recognized the DMA timeouts from my last disk crash (Running a small server for various dev work). Anyhow after this last crash that did turn out a tad expensive(pro disk recov) i decided to put up a small bit of security by using raid1. To be able to prepare myself for the inevitable problems i've setup Raid and SMART monitoring. Now your wiki says that the disks lie about SMART data (ok ata bashing is trendy but regarldess), Any info/db about what goes for various vendors in this regard? Regards Jonas Lund From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 12:48:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3651065684 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6D08FC1F for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB1DF1CC06F; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:48:06 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jonas Lund Message-ID: <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Danny Carroll , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:48:08 -0000 On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:46:35AM +0200, Jonas Lund wrote: > > Fourth, because you'll likely have multiple disks in a ZFS zpool, you > > should probably be aware of the problem that haunts some users from time > > to time (re: DMA errors). > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting > > Reading that page i recognized the DMA timeouts from my last disk > crash (Running a small server for various dev work). > > Anyhow after this last crash that did turn out a tad expensive(pro > disk recov) i decided to put up a small bit of security by using > raid1. To be able to prepare myself for the inevitable problems i've > setup Raid and SMART monitoring. > > Now your wiki says that the disks lie about SMART data (ok ata bashing > is trendy but regarldess), Any info/db about what goes for various > vendors in this regard? No, the Wiki does not say that disks lie. It says that it's entirely up to the vendor to implement SMART however they desire; they do not have to increment statistics if they don't want to, and some only update statistics when offline SMART tests (short/long) are performed (though those are labelled as requiring such). There isn't an easy way of explaining the below, so I'll be verbose. A SATA disk that comes straight out of the factory has a list of blocks on it which are marked "free for reallocation" -- meaning, when a bad block is encountered, assuming the disk can work around the problem, that block will be used and removed from the list. The list is not user-maintainable, and unless the disk vendor implements (and documents) a custom ATA command that allows a driver to get that list, there is no way to get any information about it. This happens transparently -- the OS is not informed, and in most cases, SMART statistics are also not updated to reflect such reallocations. After that entire list has been exhausted, *that* is when SMART stats begin to get updated. But this is entirely up to the vendor to decide. Some may choose to increment certain SMART attributes even when the "free list" has an entry removed from it. To make matter worse/more complex, the above can also apply to different models of disks from the same vendor; it all depends on whoever at the company is writing the drive firmware. It would be fairly difficult to track every vendor, disk model, and firmware version to determine who adheres to what method. In fact, firmware version isn't exactly an accurate way to determine this either. I can refer you to a thread where Western Digital was found to be reporting temperature statistics incorrectly in some models of drives (either their firmware was broken, thermistor vendor changed silently (I doubt it), or something at the fab wasn't soldering something correctly). Customers found that if you reported the problem to Western Digital, they'd recommend an RMA, and you'd get back a new drive of the same size/model which would behave properly. I had two of these drives. I sent them off for RMA. What I got back were two brand new drives, same model, same revision, same size, same country of origin, and same firmware version string -- but the temperature problem was completely gone. I'm of the opinion the firmware had a bug, but whoever fixed it did not bother to increment the version number. Secondly, I am in no way shape or form "ATA bashing". SCSI has a better overall protocol (design and transport), but it's (unjustifiably) more expensive, and remains such even after all these years. I actually *like* SATA, and SAS as well. The point of my Wiki page is to document known issues with FreeBSD's ATA layer, and provide some detail for administrators who aren't sure if it's FreeBSD or their disk which is on the fritz. In my experience, experiences, with regards to the DMA errors, usually the disk is fine. In the case the disk isn't, SMART has been a good way to determine if something happened, but it's not a guaranteed solution. Footnote: I hope technical someone can expand on what the IDNF bit does in read/write 48-bit ATA requests, however -- the ATA-7 specification seems to imply it only gets set when an invalid LBA is submit to the disk, which would imply a FreeBSD problem, and may explain everything. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 13:54:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE586106567E; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (host-83-146-60-88.dslgb.com [83.146.60.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E988FC19; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.255.1] (seagoon.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.1]) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m61Dbbjp057141; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:37:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Message-Id: <2864D3E5-A68E-4486-8ED6-89AB195D5314@gid.co.uk> From: Bob Bishop To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:37:37 +0100 References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Cc: Danny Carroll , Jonas Lund , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:54:12 -0000 Hi, On 1 Jul 2008, at 13:48, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Footnote: I hope technical someone can expand on what the IDNF bit > does > in read/write 48-bit ATA requests, however -- the ATA-7 specification > seems to imply it only gets set when an invalid LBA is submit to the > disk, which would imply a FreeBSD problem, and may explain everything. It can also get set when the drive electronics is out to lunch and thinks a valid LBA is invalid FSR. I've just had a drive doing that. -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 940 1243 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 940 1295 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 19:55:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D091065677 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5538FC1C for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so9842ywe.13 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=z8Dr5jT2YCxxO1v5+EX+D0VjeJ2uXtCWRIXeaOUPFZs=; b=EwPy+zGPd6kIWpWpqlbirbQh/Aqs7ps+7dQJJ7Su74SueY5CuF4k2p6YCezeEKZP/o gpVOrMXoe8K/IIIlAOKq9nPRE5nNzr4Bk2UfBj5eCPeNRTweQgVz3hBXq2dqEj2BR8jC 4WJW2MXL8hCutKi9SMKVekoIF5qNQodTFwdGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Xi/Y+TeLTiakdTzfjf9tj/hRkrW17Xwuh60nD2Jo0/mVpoh9+iMECHu6YTMqizE4rX gipvVLJGSupbg/AEYmQ6R8PoFUewQEJOeTTDsoj8kfvaE6UR/ZRBCCfGgU8NkTI+Jlnw y/JQMiFhPW6DT9KvwRg9gtcEcz9oioosVlduQ= Received: by 10.103.228.15 with SMTP id f15mr3178219mur.14.1214942116081; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.214.9 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:55:16 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" In-Reply-To: <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Cc: Danny Carroll , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:55:18 -0000 Thanks for the great overview/info. I guess i can hope that my disk will tell me something. Otherwise i really hope that my raid1-setup will save me (and a future me that got his ass off the couch fixing proper offsite backups). > Secondly, I am in no way shape or form "ATA bashing". SCSI has a better > overall protocol (design and transport), but it's (unjustifiably) more > expensive, and remains such even after all these years. I actually > *like* SATA, and SAS as well. The part about bashing was not directed at you, just a general note to get those extra mails out of the way. Sorry if it came out wrong. I totally agree about the price being insane. Some people swear by SCSI usually having better quality parts, no idea on how much that corresponds to the truth tho. / Jonas Lund From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 21:37:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEA21065670 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goaengel@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69C668FC1F for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goaengel@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jul 2008 21:11:14 -0000 Received: from p5498B64C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost) [84.152.182.76] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 01 Jul 2008 23:11:14 +0200 X-Authenticated: #39106949 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+vxpEYeTGvBlMQJJk1opIVtJByCNotlz6CdNlIYu 25sWTqpBONStKj Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:15:53 +0200 From: Tino Engel To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080701231553.56092a51@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.48 Subject: USB Quirk attempts in scsi_da.c failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:37:58 -0000 Dear freebsd people, I am trying to get a new usb mass storage device working. But every attmpt fails as follows: root:/usr/src# dmesg | tail -6 umass0: on uhub2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 3855MB (7895552 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 491C) (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi status == 0x0 The problem is: elgrande:/home/elgrande/vidz# ls -d /dev/da* /dev/da0 /dev/da0s1 is not there, and so i cannot mount the drive, of course... I tried to add the device to scsi_da.c quirk list, and rbuilt the kernel. (not world cause /usb/da/atapicam is in my kernel, but i am trying this currently, to be sure). root:/usr/src# diff sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c.orig 516,522d515 < * SAMSUNG YP-U3 < */ < {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "SAMSUNG", "*", "*"}, < /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE < }, < { < /* Remark: I also tried {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "SAMSUNG", "YP-U3", "*"} but it made no difference. root:/usr/src# usbdevs -v | grep "port 5 addr 2" port 5 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, YP-U3(0x507c), Samsung Electronics(0x04e8), rev 2.20 But rebuilding and installing kernel did not work. As additional info I can give: root:/usr/src# usbdevs -v | grep "port 5 addr 2" port 5 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, YP-U3(0x507c), Samsung Electronics(0x04e8), rev 2.20 The device is working on several windows pc's at work, as a normal external disk drive. I would be very happy to receive help, what i can do, to get it working... (I do not have the money for another new player ;)) I really think, that I am doing something wrond with the usb quirk, because I still get the "synchronize chache failed" errors, and synchronizing is what i tried to disable... Best regards, Tino From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 00:05:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0100C1065675 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A495B8FC13 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hardware@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KDpYT-0004ED-St for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:46:37 +0000 Received: from 89-172-63-171.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.63.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:46:37 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-63-171.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:46:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:46:16 +0200 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <928b5da90806301338g748ec7e6y1ef0531b43fbf164@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA8B978D69E8E17DD1D96AC59" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-63-171.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: <928b5da90806301338g748ec7e6y1ef0531b43fbf164@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IBM Blades X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:05:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA8B978D69E8E17DD1D96AC59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Felipe Neuwald wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > Does anybody running FreeBSD on IBM Blades? If yes (or no), can tell > me about your experience? I have one, on LS21 (2x2 Opteron). Works very fine on 6.3-R in 32-bit=20 mode (PAE+SMP), after I disabled umass (USB storage). When I first set=20 it up (long time ago, early in development of 7.x), 7-CURRENT wouldn't=20 boot and I had trouble with 64-bit mode on both 6.x and 7.x. It's=20 probably better now. The blade is connected to a FibreChannel disk array with a QLogic=20 controller (ISP 2422), which also works without problems (you can even=20 use active-passive multipath on 7.x). --------------enigA8B978D69E8E17DD1D96AC59 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIasHSldnAQVacBcgRAtbQAKCCu7IGXkj2ScB2TfY96azYnJIHeQCfYcqX y/KGUA+BhBva89aTs49m6pA= =r7tP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA8B978D69E8E17DD1D96AC59-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 00:22:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05061065672 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C4F8FC0C for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F6651CC06B; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:22:57 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jonas Lund Message-ID: <20080702002257.GA17066@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Danny Carroll , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:22:57 -0000 On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 09:55:16PM +0200, Jonas Lund wrote: > Thanks for the great overview/info. I guess i can hope that my disk > will tell me something. Otherwise i really hope that my raid1-setup > will save me (and a future me that got his ass off the couch fixing > proper offsite backups). Don't even get me started on backups. The problem is that hard disk sizes and overall applications are growing at a totally insane rate. Tape, DAT, AIT, etc. drives are 1) too expensive, and 2) do not offer enough storage capacity (compared to hard disks). DVD is in no way a feasible backup method either, unless you have very little data. This forces people to end up relying on hard disks as their form of backing up data, which is still risky business (if you ask me). Someone really needs to come out with an affordable (US$300 tops) backup medium that uses SATA, eSATA, or USB2.0, works with *IX operating systems, provides 250-500GB of capacity, and is virtually "limitless" when it comes to capacity expansion. That's what consumers will go for. > > Secondly, I am in no way shape or form "ATA bashing". SCSI has a better > > overall protocol (design and transport), but it's (unjustifiably) more > > expensive, and remains such even after all these years. I actually > > *like* SATA, and SAS as well. > > The part about bashing was not directed at you, just a general note to > get those extra mails out of the way. Sorry if it came out wrong. I understand. I also know the type of people you're referring to, so don't feel like you're alone. > I totally agree about the price being insane. Some people swear by > SCSI usually having better quality parts, no idea on how much that > corresponds to the truth tho. I believe Scott Long commented last year sometime about how in this day and age, disk-wise, SCSI and SATA are about the same. "Back in the day", SCSI disks consisting of better quality parts proves true. But now, I don't think it's done that way. SCSI does offer some better administrative features, like being able to manage the grown defect list yourself. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 05:31:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239451065672 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goaengel@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 836E08FC24 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 05:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goaengel@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Jul 2008 05:31:52 -0000 Received: from p54988536.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost) [84.152.133.54] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 02 Jul 2008 07:31:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #39106949 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18rjA5AR08rqJADt3jWrQleXfijuZFerr02Nn3Iof s3QnAq0ezb3CO2 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:36:30 +0200 From: Tino Engel To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20080702073630.48b84df9@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080701231553.56092a51@gmx.net> References: <20080701231553.56092a51@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB Quirk attempts in scsi_da.c failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:31:55 -0000 Hi, Okay the problem is solvable, and as I have supposed, I did something wrong doing the quirk. I commented out all synchronize chache stuff in scsi_da.c and voila, I can mount my device. (it just has only /dev/da0) So I will engineer the correct format of the quirk and post a patch then. Regards, Tino On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:15:53 +0200 Tino Engel wrote: > Dear freebsd people, > > I am trying to get a new usb mass storage device working. > > But every attmpt fails as follows: > > root:/usr/src# dmesg | tail -6 > umass0: > on uhub2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 3855MB (7895552 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 491C) > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi > status == 0x0 > > > The problem is: > elgrande:/home/elgrande/vidz# ls -d /dev/da* > /dev/da0 > > /dev/da0s1 is not there, and so i cannot mount the drive, of course... > > > I tried to add the device to scsi_da.c quirk list, and rbuilt the > kernel. (not world cause /usb/da/atapicam is in my kernel, but i am > trying this currently, to be sure). > > root:/usr/src# diff sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c.orig > 516,522d515 > < * SAMSUNG YP-U3 > < */ > < {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "SAMSUNG", "*", "*"}, > < /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE > < }, > < { > < /* > > Remark: I also tried > {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "SAMSUNG", "YP-U3", "*"} > but it made no difference. > > root:/usr/src# usbdevs -v | grep "port 5 addr 2" > port 5 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, YP-U3(0x507c), > Samsung Electronics(0x04e8), rev 2.20 But rebuilding and installing > kernel did not work. > > > > As additional info I can give: > > > root:/usr/src# usbdevs -v | grep "port 5 addr 2" > port 5 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, YP-U3(0x507c), > Samsung Electronics(0x04e8), rev 2.20 > > > > The device is working on several windows pc's at work, as a normal > external disk drive. > > > I would be very happy to receive help, what i can do, to get it > working... (I do not have the money for another new player ;)) > > I really think, that I am doing something wrond with the usb quirk, > because I still get the "synchronize chache failed" errors, and > synchronizing is what i tried to disable... > > Best regards, > Tino > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 07:41:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D94F106567B for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1795D8FC1B for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so117849ywe.13 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=6W968rkUl7HTy2ge3XQw0Rx6/2vWaS9wz/DH6CRp+NA=; b=JvKaV597y/Z1ythwf3IVLK10gup32+AUL/qsUZZo/OawrhlxolT5GWbg0d2e5GHAje qPUWTNcFl5Ydf6bdJc4KXZnK+lwRaOHgQyZ6vtPPb/EVYiejzC4Aht+BmYV7AEQjWQy0 eCYtN9wC8O2hin9riIWakdcUsJWxD1cPDVWK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AZ2zCg5fhe46yZ0lJY8FUk0oSm/pXGrDWOYZiQh3g9jcg2JlQloj8O03Mc+aVgkmy5 ADtgLFIqCmFAD792sg4gwpXDc3VKKL2RTzXzesrzAcDPPuYYmBw8MUoh1CoinzfvJCoQ AxCnNkchFf5JeidLfGEVYhJRJ8wYaAysbUcGE= Received: by 10.150.154.6 with SMTP id b6mr12256445ybe.28.1214982812576; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.10.18 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3eca10930807020013o452ef0b2r842ede726216c21f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 03:13:32 -0400 From: "Matt Fioravante" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Wireless Router X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:41:37 -0000 I was looking into some of those embedded boards. I'd like to eventually build a router with freebsd. Can anyone give hardware recommendations for things that work well with freebsd? I am looking for a small board that would not use up very much power. I want to also make it a wireless access point, are there any wireless N solutions that work well with bsd? Thank you all for your time. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 08:19:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DE31065687 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8348FC1F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9E051CC06F; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 01:19:53 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Matt Fioravante Message-ID: <20080702081953.GA47790@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <3eca10930807020013o452ef0b2r842ede726216c21f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3eca10930807020013o452ef0b2r842ede726216c21f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Router X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:19:54 -0000 On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:13:32AM -0400, Matt Fioravante wrote: > I was looking into some of those embedded boards. I'd like to eventually > build a router with freebsd. > > Can anyone give hardware recommendations for things that work well with > freebsd? I am looking for a small board that would not use up very much > power. I want to also make it a wireless access point, are there any > wireless N solutions that work well with bsd? Please see this thread on freebsd-hackers: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2008-June/024975.html -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 17:01:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1594F106568D for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felipebgn@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B688FC14 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felipebgn@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c30so235444ika.3 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yGx84GKYgXqOa00KPAn8mgaoed9BIPOxs9zgWOwIPnE=; b=GY08OpHybVCn2mSfp8It+ZM82DsEKqsQj6r59gRMqd3JykHV+7/iUThfK+HJZV/U3O hZdlc3ptueI01uzx1t59U6Cr/XedIx2i8Shv1jxKoKQdIxlD2CWTruCY6XvlcCPq497f VdXZyCLYhhjbV/f1jy7Mz3TbG5nmBlaDhNnNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Cmfw5HSeTiASJxHpt+Cd9irVoWSCof8qC/3Ks97yVfE46ejM7LYkSNcymlUW3tS8vF cV0EIPw3JyY/DkUfbx0bRDBhiTNer5qkZ1hBjbUbXQxCi/TDCZO16kB4CJRqVKgkuHW0 wK9Tn/FT1XXfw2P4VxTsi8leYmTp3N2T8PI7c= Received: by 10.210.54.19 with SMTP id c19mr6786769eba.168.1215018066394; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.19.16 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <928b5da90807021001i36bf7225o74a3f14a3dd25c97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:01:06 -0300 From: "Felipe Neuwald" To: "Ivan Voras" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <928b5da90806301338g748ec7e6y1ef0531b43fbf164@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IBM Blades X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:01:08 -0000 Hi Ivan, Thanks, it's good information for me. Are you running FreeBSD on other IBM machines? Felipe. 2008/7/1 Ivan Voras : > Felipe Neuwald wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Does anybody running FreeBSD on IBM Blades? If yes (or no), can tell >> me about your experience? > > I have one, on LS21 (2x2 Opteron). Works very fine on 6.3-R in 32-bit mode > (PAE+SMP), after I disabled umass (USB storage). When I first set it up > (long time ago, early in development of 7.x), 7-CURRENT wouldn't boot and I > had trouble with 64-bit mode on both 6.x and 7.x. It's probably better now. > > The blade is connected to a FibreChannel disk array with a QLogic controller > (ISP 2422), which also works without problems (you can even use > active-passive multipath on 7.x). > > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 20:06:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC05B1065680 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF118FC12 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so690820rvf.43 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=GDUr6q0NM+oAOkEI0io6laebTTKoNB+l8G6rUbkDTF4=; b=XFjgauo2R7VKoeyqKWq6XawbQ+ooKzSw09ju3gZMabKfCTLhoNbmE893u47yklHYAd nbl6T8H6Gr+yyR2aoTxobI/7xZgd/vs/OBtgp5gNUKz0tQZqNUkeOgH8TImXNnVEQjjn zdj+Wz7+X33lfe2Qnd0xV+5g2A2Py/dPpM5qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VwnrtqmrVNOBRiW3rpbqB3i08PddJ10VpiII0iyCTIMG48fR4jU4UyfPqC6mB98Nf6 sNQg1vidgGkPwE7i97O5wp/gseMhiWmD9hthEbxZL8vkO/9eAX0eGZijfXP+NHVcc1GK R2Vvs0Nlk/PyUwfPdtsEM3TT8UtMLKoFBq6FY= Received: by 10.141.162.9 with SMTP id p9mr4612161rvo.68.1215027670995; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.141.9 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9bbcef730807021241y2ae200e3hd36046eb16a6b86b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:41:10 +0200 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "Felipe Neuwald" In-Reply-To: <928b5da90807021001i36bf7225o74a3f14a3dd25c97@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <928b5da90806301338g748ec7e6y1ef0531b43fbf164@mail.gmail.com> <928b5da90807021001i36bf7225o74a3f14a3dd25c97@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a2297e65c77f9d63 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IBM Blades X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:06:31 -0000 2008/7/2 Felipe Neuwald : > Hi Ivan, > > Thanks, it's good information for me. Are you running FreeBSD on other > IBM machines? Not on blades; I run it on x3650 rack mountables, without any trouble or special settings. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 00:14:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E261065671 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7398B8FC1B for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 2 Jul 2008 19:15:47 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)" To: Sten Daniel Soersdal In-Reply-To: <485A6486.1030305@gmail.com> References: <485A6486.1030305@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:15:51 -0400 Message-Id: <1215044151.9810.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and DELL PowerEdge Blade servers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:14:30 -0000 On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 09:52 -0400, Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > I am considering a DELL PowerEdge Blade server for a project. > The ones i have available (online webstore) are M600, M605, 1955 and http://www.nycbug.org/?NAV=dmesgd;SQLIMIT=20 > M1000e. Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, about running > FreeBSD on these or similar (older?) systems? > > Will FreeBSD (really) support either one of the FiberChannel cards? > Qlogic QME2472 4Gbps FC4 HBA Card PCIe > Emulex LPE1105-M4 FC4 HBA Card PCIe > IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 01:06:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A31106566C for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1948FC16 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 2 Jul 2008 20:07:51 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)" To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <486909B1.3020309@samsco.org> References: <20071114122210.42E8613C4BB@mx1.freebsd.org> <1195160114.4042.154.camel@new-host> <1214840198.18670.43.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <486909B1.3020309@samsco.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:07:41 -0400 Message-Id: <1215047261.9810.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean McAfee , Jason Thomson , scottl@freebsd.org, Benjie Chen , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: PERC5 (LSI MegaSAS) Patrol Read crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:06:34 -0000 > >> Its a software bug (driver). It can probably be easily fixed. I > >> think there's a PR on it somewhere (will check). > > The problem is a firmware bug in the Megaraid SAS controller. It seems > that while the controller can handle 512 or more concurrent commands, That's great news. We will try that patch in our local source tree. One thing to note, though, is that both or R1 and R2/3 systems have the same controller with the same firmware version, but we never saw the problem in the R2/3. Indeed the Dell product number revision is different (from ipmitool fru) for the parts. Although the firmware updates are the same for R1 and R2/3, maybe the updater probes the underlying hardware revision and applies different code? Or perhaps it is something to do with the performance or kernel behavior of the older Hyperthreading Xeon's (and motherboard) in the the R1 that just causes it to occur more-often. ~BAS > it can only handle 128 concurrent commands to each array. Patrols > reads aren't the primary cause, they just help the problem appear; when > a patrol read cycle runs, it tends to slow down i/o enough that commands > to the array get backed up, and you tend to reach the 128 limit. > > I don't know if there is a firmware fix from Dell/LSI, or if there will > ever be a fix. FreeBSD drivers tend to stress hardware a lot more > than Linux and Windows do, and since the latter two are used as the > QA yardstick, anything that doesn't affect them doesn't usually get > fixed. An easy work-around for the driver is to change the following > line in /sys/dev/mfi/mfi.c::mfi_alloc_commands() > > ncmds = sc->mfi_max_fw_cmds; > > to > > ncmds = 128; > > A more complete solution requires me writing an i/o scheduler in the > driver, something that would take quite a bit of effort. > > With all this said, I still stand behind LSI controllers. This bug, > while unfortunate, is relatively minor and easy to work around, and > it's the only significant bug that has turned up in over two and half > years with this hardware. > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 03:49:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D871065671 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9033E8FC12 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 03:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.109]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K3G00D9TQMQMT70@l-daemon> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K3G002A9QMP8Z70@pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cydem.org ([24.87.3.133]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K3G0038AQMOUY10@l-daemon> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from freen0de (s64-180-126-80.bc.hsia.telus.net [64.180.126.80]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id 0A99A7F2E4; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:49:32 -0700 From: soralx@cydem.org In-reply-to: <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080703204932.5ac9f5b7@freen0de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> Cc: whizzter@gmail.com Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:49:38 -0000 > I totally agree about the price being insane. Some people swear by > SCSI usually having better quality parts, no idea on how much that > corresponds to the truth tho. I believe that all it comes down to, is quality assurance for SCSI (hence the price difference). How many DOA or failed SCSI disks have you seen in your life? Then how about ATA (especially in the last couple years)? I've had only 2 failed SCSI disks. One was an insanely old IBM model DCHS, which could have lived hadn't I messed with it: pulled it out from the server to make a backup(!), hooked it up to another controller, and the interface ASIC blew up in smoke; fortunately, I was able to get another one of those, and by swapping the PCB I was saved. The other one is ModusLnk 137Gb U320, which are refurbished Fujitsu MAU units, which were designed as ATA-class disks with SCSI interface anyway. It developed bad sectors (found out by SMART), and I'm still using it. > / Jonas Lund [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 5 21:30:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0D11065672 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhomel.chinsio@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25098FC1E for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rhomel.chinsio@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2168062rvf.43 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:30:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=CxBbI70qYkNjGKljwXvLFm1Svikg0fxCUO1xkxxgvBs=; b=tp1BgI5lMokDA25TETf2DC6fUk4OPtb2InCHL9VoF39PVeMKgg8q7wD5/XBsfjV7x8 I3N0vaZWjlvzYgATviGC/Ls6vcBFMPGbfZrsGR1OicGZvQbNqDkYjh4QCgBCBMKZmEFi pRqO8pP0QVGrNmTMqofe3lCMZwMebvyw/IPco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=OaVbbbCQyum8lYc5hcw2HFf8XedZ7g8U3iP1h9mmwQQuCFM7kkEmy/U+GXOeWekkkc R1RV0ucTn/jEKTM2+Ig6lrujSIQO0YG2gplRZgayGfhT3micqvjmAlIEQk3XZgNjWP/3 Ys+LAcAv9qrr+71Hm0mTZplomN4Pf0I9f0PQc= Received: by 10.140.139.3 with SMTP id m3mr1212052rvd.38.1215291765493; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.63.12 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:02:45 -0700 From: "Rhomel Chinsio" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: AMD 780G chipset supported? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:30:06 -0000 Has anyone out there successfully gotten any of the AMD 780G based motherboards to work flawlessly with FreeBSD 7.0? I'm considering upgrading my motherboard so I'd have access to PCI Express cards instead of just PCI cards.