From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 18:27:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC4E1065679; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B3C8FC08; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699D91D0BC1E; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:10:09 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03399-01; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:10:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2B17F1D0B855; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:10:07 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:10:07 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: cPanel or Plesk in jail ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:27:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Simple enough, has anyone been able to get either to run successfully in a jail? - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki8L/8ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvO5lACg7UEk8CkUvD4DIu2LI/bVs+65 E5YAn0BmZHgRoqg76S5lzRa+nK2uZoIu =sZXQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 18:32:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A495106567A for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463AA8FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118E71D0B851; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:14:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06928-03; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:14:22 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EABDF1D0B705; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 15:14:22 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:14:22 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Max Gribov , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <96D914334BEFF82DD489C912@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <4819FD45.5070501@neuropunks.org> References: <4819D23D.90700@ibctech.ca> <200805011501.m41F1uc3084445@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> <126f8c310805011017y48bf0473h9a6653d2a32bae72@mail.gmail.com> <4819FD45.5070501@neuropunks.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: [freebsd-isp] Re: BW measuring Tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:32:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Better late then never, but I've been using: - --On Thursday, May 01, 2008 13:26:29 -0400 Max Gribov wrote: > if you dont mind paying, www.ookla.com > > > Enrique Llanos V. wrote: >> Exactly, i may have expressed incorrectly, im looking for some test like the >> one Tuc mentions, only being US the server and our customers the clients, >> any suggestions? >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: >> >> >>>> Enrique Llanos V. wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Sirs, i was looking in the ports for a tool that allow our >>>>> >>> customers >>> >>>>> to measure their bandwidth against that server, and couldn't find >>>>> >>> anything >>> >>>>> related, I'd very much appreciate if anyone here can provide me some >>>>> pointers where to look for. >>>>> >>>> Is /usr/ports/net-mgmt/mrtg what you are after? >>>> >>>> I may not completely understand the question, so you might want to check >>>> to see if it's what you need: >>>> >>>> http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/ >>>> >>>> >>> I think the OP might be talking about those speedtest things that >>> people run, like : >>> >>> http://www.dslreports.com/stest >>> >>> Tuc >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki8MP4ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvOXpwCg3TT7nJyZhlhTJkwnaWqTt3D7 GLwAn3xaNVZm43rrCZlYeZgVknF9UsJI =FhCj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 01:06:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C518106566B; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 01:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580CC8FC1B; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 01:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071191D0B705; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:06:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15282-07; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:05:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2BE141D0B703; Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:06:00 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:05:57 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <681FC7B8A3FE76F9056F4B54@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: cPanel in a jail ... seems to work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:06:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Everything appears to have installed fine, I can login, create accounts, etc ... all in all, I'm impressed ... but, I seem to have one process 'running wild': # ps aux | grep stunnel root 93708 92.2 0.0 12780 3500 ?? RJ 12:18AM 40:34.35 /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf root 93704 0.0 0.0 12780 3416 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf root 93705 0.0 0.0 12780 3308 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf root 93706 0.0 0.0 12780 3308 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf root 93707 0.0 0.0 12780 3308 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf root 3802 0.0 0.0 456 372 p6 D+J 1:02AM 0:00.00 grep stunnel 92.2% of the CPU? Wow ... Does anyone know what this is for, and why its using so much CPU? - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki8kXUACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvM6OACg0mLx5etJdLjOvh+x6qThZlPJ 0EsAn0h+mqvxGHzCLdhr2OEHQTA1XSuA =70sT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 12:14:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81EE1065671; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@ht-systems.ru) Received: from smtp.ht-systems.ru (mr0.ht-systems.ru [78.110.50.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FFD8FC19; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@ht-systems.ru) Received: from [83.166.229.34] (helo=sputnik.SpringDaemons.com) by smtp.ht-systems.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KaUAu-0001AA-5B; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:35:56 +0400 Received: by sputnik.SpringDaemons.com (Postfix, from userid 1024) id B879194254D; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:37:24 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:37:19 +0400 From: Stanislav Sedov To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-Id: <20080902153719.2148127c.stas@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <681FC7B8A3FE76F9056F4B54@ganymede.hub.org> References: <681FC7B8A3FE76F9056F4B54@ganymede.hub.org> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-XMPP: ssedov@jabber.ru X-Voice: +7 916 849 20 23 X-PGP-Fingerprin: F21E D6CC 5626 9609 6CE2 A385 2BF5 5993 EB26 9581 X-Mailer: carrier-pigeon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__2_Sep_2008_15_37_19_+0400_QMIxpTVBG.Ws7+W7" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cPanel in a jail ... seems to work ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:14:46 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__2_Sep_2008_15_37_19_+0400_QMIxpTVBG.Ws7+W7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:05:57 -0300 "Marc G. Fournier" mentioned: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 >=20 > Everything appears to have installed fine, I can login, create accounts, = etc=20 > ... all in all, I'm impressed ... but, I seem to have one process 'runnin= g=20 > wild': >=20 >=20 > # ps aux | grep stunnel > root 93708 92.2 0.0 12780 3500 ?? RJ 12:18AM 40:34.35=20 > /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf > root 93704 0.0 0.0 12780 3416 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00=20 > /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf > root 93705 0.0 0.0 12780 3308 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00=20 > /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf > root 93706 0.0 0.0 12780 3308 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00=20 > /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf > root 93707 0.0 0.0 12780 3308 ?? IJ 12:18AM 0:00.00=20 > /usr/local/bin/stunnel /tmp/stunnel_test.conf > root 3802 0.0 0.0 456 372 p6 D+J 1:02AM 0:00.00 grep stu= nnel >=20 > 92.2% of the CPU? Wow ... >=20 > Does anyone know what this is for, and why its using so much CPU? >=20 What does truss say? --=20 Stanislav Sedov ST4096-RIPE --Signature=_Tue__2_Sep_2008_15_37_19_+0400_QMIxpTVBG.Ws7+W7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAki9JXQACgkQK/VZk+smlYH0HACfQAYVqq691am25obLa352zmK6 bToAnjKA+Npf3BRNV3Sn7MiL10k4fAsy =riG0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__2_Sep_2008_15_37_19_+0400_QMIxpTVBG.Ws7+W7-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 19:11:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB983106566B for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from out-mx.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A796C8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from admin.crosswinds.net (admin.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.2]) by out-mx.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23A71E8D6A for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.crosswinds.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B660A6C85C; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:51:02 -0400 From: Tony Holmes To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080902185102.GA7176@crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: B/W Monitoring with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:11:00 -0000 I have simply gotten buried in the many options for monitoring and graphing b/w data and just need a pointer from experienced people at solutions. I have a dedicated FreeBSD 4.10 (yeah it's old) firewall with IPFW and the appropriate counter rules installed. Each counter rule has an in and out rule for the boxes (contained in a Class-C block) that I wish to monitor. I have a dedicated monitoring box for presenting of data. Collecting every 5 mins will be the standard. I wish to have a delve-down of the following: Level 1: Summary of all traffic in/out Level 2: Summary of host in/out - these will be grouped by IP/function I use dedicated server/jails for functions (http on one, ftp one another, etc) Level 3: Detail of each individual IP I've gotten lost in the options - mrtg, rrdtool, cacti... using custom script, snmpd... the list goes on. In all my years I've never done this part myself and now I find I need to. So a pointer to a how to, recommended software, anything to help sort my out and clear the confusion would be very much appreciated. TIA! -- Tony Holmes Ph: (416) 993-1219 Founder and Senior Systems Architect Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 00:39:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B151065A2B for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: from mail.thingy.com (wotsit.thingy.com [212.21.100.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EA18FC1E for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from howie@thingy.com) Received: (qmail 32688 invoked by uid 0); 3 Sep 2008 01:12:18 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO Satans-Little-Helper-mkII.local) (howie@thingy.com@212.21.124.49) by wotsit3.thingy.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Sep 2008 01:12:18 +0100 Message-ID: <48BDD65E.4040902@thingy.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:12:14 +0100 From: Howard Jones User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20080902185102.GA7176@crosswinds.net> In-Reply-To: <20080902185102.GA7176@crosswinds.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [freebsd-isp] B/W Monitoring with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:39:01 -0000 Tony Holmes wrote: > I have simply gotten buried in the many options for monitoring and > graphing b/w data and just need a pointer from experienced people > at solutions. > > I have a dedicated FreeBSD 4.10 (yeah it's old) firewall with IPFW > and the appropriate counter rules installed. Each counter rule has > an in and out rule for the boxes (contained in a Class-C block) that > I wish to monitor. > > I have a dedicated monitoring box for presenting of data. Collecting > every 5 mins will be the standard. > > I wish to have a delve-down of the following: > > Level 1: Summary of all traffic in/out > Level 2: Summary of host in/out - these will be grouped by IP/function > I use dedicated server/jails for functions (http on one, ftp one > another, etc) > Level 3: Detail of each individual IP > > I've gotten lost in the options - mrtg, rrdtool, cacti... using custom script, > snmpd... the list goes on. In all my years I've never done this part myself and > now I find I need to. > Extending net-snmp to do this, and then using anything that can read/graph/report SNMP (cacti, mrtg, cricket etc) is pretty straightforward. If you can make a simple shell script to get the value you want (e.g. ipfw show 400 | cut -f3 -d' ') then this works OK as a starting point. I have a similar example on my site: http://wotsit.thingy.com/haj/cacti/cacti-dynfirewall.html (and a few more on there). You might also want to look at ng_netflow or ntop - can't remember if netgraph/ng_* was in 4.10 though. To get down to per-IP without having a huge number of ipfw count rules, these two might fit better. Howie From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 17:24:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7532B106EBB8 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from out-mx.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D538FC1E for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from admin.crosswinds.net (admin.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.2]) by out-mx.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F181E8D6A for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.crosswinds.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8A7646C85A; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:24:09 -0400 From: Tony Holmes To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080903172409.GB14969@crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: SNMP On FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:24:10 -0000 I am attempting to configure snmpd on 4.10 for monitoring bandwidth in/out via ipfw counters. Took a while to find all the old packages for 4.10 but it's installed and now dying on the configure step: cw-fw# snmpconf -g basic_setup Not enough arguments for mkdir at /usr/local/bin/snmpconf line 174, near ""$ENV{HOME}/.snmp")" Execution of /usr/local/bin/snmpconf aborted due to compilation errors. cw-fw# snmpconf Not enough arguments for mkdir at /usr/local/bin/snmpconf line 174, near ""$ENV{HOME}/.snmp")" Execution of /usr/local/bin/snmpconf aborted due to compilation errors. Googling has turned up people asking the same question and no answers. This is new to me and I am currently stumped. I installed the net-snmpd with the following options: make WITH_INETADDRESS_HACK=yes WITHOUT_IPV6=yes NET_SNMP_SYS_CONTACT="[SNIP]" NET_SNMP_SYS_LOCATION="[SNIP]" install Went well with no errors. Help? -- Tony Holmes Ph: (416) 993-1219 Founder and Senior Systems Architect Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 18:21:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47AB51065C0A for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from out-mx.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D218FC3F for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from admin.crosswinds.net (admin.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.2]) by out-mx.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380461E8D6A; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.crosswinds.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26ADD6C85A; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:21:07 -0400 From: Tony Holmes To: Howard Jones Message-ID: <20080903182107.GA15490@crosswinds.net> References: <20080902185102.GA7176@crosswinds.net> <48BDD65E.4040902@thingy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48BDD65E.4040902@thingy.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-isp] B/W Monitoring with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:21:08 -0000 > Extending net-snmp to do this, and then using anything that can > read/graph/report SNMP (cacti, mrtg, cricket etc) is pretty > straightforward. If you can make a simple shell script to get the value I can't even get net-snmpd installed and configured correctly :) Googling is not turning up any nice how to's and nice explanations of the myriad features of snmpd and snmpdtrap... so frustrating :/ -- Tony Holmes Ph: (416) 993-1219 Founder and Senior Systems Architect Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 19:01:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992CE1065683 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from out-mx.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CF38FC1F for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from admin.crosswinds.net (admin.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.2]) by out-mx.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63271E8E67 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.crosswinds.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B8AF36C85A; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:01:25 -0400 From: Tony Holmes To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080903190125.GC15696@crosswinds.net> References: <20080903172409.GB14969@crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080903172409.GB14969@crosswinds.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: SNMP On FreeBSD 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:01:26 -0000 > I am attempting to configure snmpd on 4.10 for monitoring bandwidth > in/out via ipfw counters. > > Took a while to find all the old packages for 4.10 but it's installed > and now dying on the configure step: > > cw-fw# snmpconf -g basic_setup > Not enough arguments for mkdir at /usr/local/bin/snmpconf line 174, near ""$ENV{HOME}/.snmp")" > Execution of /usr/local/bin/snmpconf aborted due to compilation errors. > cw-fw# snmpconf > Not enough arguments for mkdir at /usr/local/bin/snmpconf line 174, near ""$ENV{HOME}/.snmp")" > Execution of /usr/local/bin/snmpconf aborted due to compilation errors. > > > Googling has turned up people asking the same question and no answers. > This is new to me and I am currently stumped. > > I installed the net-snmpd with the following options: > > make WITH_INETADDRESS_HACK=yes WITHOUT_IPV6=yes NET_SNMP_SYS_CONTACT="[SNIP]" > NET_SNMP_SYS_LOCATION="[SNIP]" install > > Went well with no errors. > > Help? Commenting out the option I know I wasn't needed solved the problem. Then I gave up on snmpdconf - too many options! Broke my brain. I found a lovely little "basic" configuration in an email reply to another issue. Now the true debugging begins -- Tony Holmes Ph: (416) 993-1219 Founder and Senior Systems Architect Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 4 00:48:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9881069092 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from out-mx.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5678FC1E for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tony@crosswinds.net) Received: from admin.crosswinds.net (admin.crosswinds.net [216.18.117.2]) by out-mx.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFD31E8E67 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by admin.crosswinds.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 233E06C85A; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:48:37 -0400 From: Tony Holmes To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080904004837.GA22814@crosswinds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: SNMP - Hair Pulling Error :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:48:38 -0000 After a slow start and a couple private conversations (THANKS!) I have gotten net-snmpd compiled, configured, running. I ran into an error and went to the simplest config I could and still get the "No Such Instance currently exists at this OID" error. Details: FreeBSD 4.10 cannot upgrade net-snmp-5.1.1_1 yes, old ipfw with counter rules installed 100 - 520ish /usr/local/etc/snmp/snmp.conf: rocommunity public syslocation here syscontact me pass .1.3.6.1.4.1.3027.1 /root/bytecount 100 .1.3.6.1.4.1.3027.1 /root/bytecount: #!/bin/sh echo "$2" echo "integer" /bin/expr `ipfw -a list $1 | /usr/bin/awk '{ print $3 }'` % 4294967295 Run bytecount test (pulled from snmp debug): # /root/bytecount 100 .1.3.6.1.4.1.3027.1 -g .1.3.6.1.4.1.3027.1 .1.3.6.1.4.1.3027.1 counter 7151484 Run the snmpget: # snmpget -v 2c -c public localhost .1.3.6.1.4.1.3027.1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3027.1 = No Such Instance currently exists at this OID The net-snmp shows the call being made. According to the docs I have the format right for the output of /root/bytecount. Googling lead me to this simple config and still I get the error and now sit stumped. Leads? Urls? TIA -- Tony Holmes Ph: (416) 993-1219 Founder and Senior Systems Architect Crosswinds Internet Communications Inc. 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Message details: Server: ATDC1 Sender: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Recipient: info@attika.ch; Subject: Re: document Attachment name: .xx.pif From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 04:48:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56538106567A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rkramer@mweb.com) Received: from mwbmarshal.mweb.com (mwbmarshal.mweb.com [196.2.141.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463148FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rkramer@mweb.com) Received: from mwbfes2.mweb.com (Not Verified[196.2.141.74]) by mwbmarshal.mweb.com with NetIQ MailMarshal 6.0 Service Pack 1 (v6, 0, 3, 28) id ; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:32:20 +0200 Received: from MWBEXCH.mweb.com ([196.2.141.75]) by mwbfes2.mweb.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Sep 2008 06:32:20 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 06:32:20 +0200 Message-ID: <39DC135F7F0571489196E0B6F5D58B4A03B460B0@MWBEXCH.mweb.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [freebsd-isp] B/W Monitoring with IPFW Thread-Index: AckN8gaJwg8XJNw3SF2NE3E5L4LN9QBHiv7Q References: <20080902185102.GA7176@crosswinds.net><48BDD65E.4040902@thingy.com> <20080903182107.GA15490@crosswinds.net> From: "Rudi Kramer - MWEB" To: "Tony Holmes" , "Howard Jones" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2008 04:32:20.0915 (UTC) FILETIME=[62DA8030:01C90F10] Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [freebsd-isp] B/W Monitoring with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:48:14 -0000 > Tony Holmes > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:21 PM > To: Howard Jones > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: [freebsd-isp] B/W Monitoring with IPFW >=20 > > Extending net-snmp to do this, and then using anything that can > > read/graph/report SNMP (cacti, mrtg, cricket etc) is pretty > > straightforward. If you can make a simple shell script to get the value >=20 > I can't even get net-snmpd installed and configured correctly :) >=20 > Googling is not turning up any nice how to's and nice explanations of the > myriad features of snmpd and snmpdtrap... so frustrating :/ Hi Tony, Try and install a app called ntop (http://www.ntop.org/) very powerful and complete bandwidth monitoring application. Regards Rudi From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 05:29:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8FA106567F for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 05:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@neuropunks.org) Received: from finn.neuropunks.org (finn.neuropunks.org [69.31.43.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA1A8FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 05:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@neuropunks.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by finn.neuropunks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3435F2856D for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: finn.neuropunks.org from=max@neuropunks.org; domainkeys=pass X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neuropunks.org Received: from finn.neuropunks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (finn.neuropunks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x2FhmTyg2Ifd for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (cpe-74-66-17-72.nyc.res.rr.com [74.66.17.72]) by finn.neuropunks.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9122828562 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:11:07 -0400 (EDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=finn; d=neuropunks.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H1BgpmIZ7n2o5Y500sNySrtwdAe3BYUbgspGDFUfhHXRehk4kER/UUGaSOzHG8k6V LDft+G/6ZybH9PAg0RBjfHXaCHniWCPSQobP8Y+HqVH9rhwAIm+Y/qMX45mIUQsgDMn 7RLE5/wU+LVath3cB0S8kWfH3Hex8zdEBwTHtqw= Message-ID: <48C0BF6B.8010005@neuropunks.org> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:11:07 -0400 From: Max Gribov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <20080902185102.GA7176@crosswinds.net><48BDD65E.4040902@thingy.com> <20080903182107.GA15490@crosswinds.net> <39DC135F7F0571489196E0B6F5D58B4A03B460B0@MWBEXCH.mweb.com> In-Reply-To: <39DC135F7F0571489196E0B6F5D58B4A03B460B0@MWBEXCH.mweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [freebsd-isp] B/W Monitoring with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:29:29 -0000 Rudi Kramer - MWEB wrote: > Hi Tony, > Try and install a app called ntop (http://www.ntop.org/) very powerful > and complete bandwidth monitoring application. > > hi all, theres also darkstat - it should be in ports http://dmr.ath.cx/net/darkstat/ its claimed to be smaller and faster than ntop (i liked it anyway..) - but either way, if you're going to be running traffic profiling on the firewall itself, expect at least a little bit of performance degrade - YMMV another one i thought was cool is symon, but it doesnt really give you any granularity - just total stats per nic.. it does have a collector/sensor model, so less overhead if you dump data to another host (snmp is probably better..), and will monitor cpu/ram/disk/specific process activity - its neato also in ports or in http://www.xs4all.nl/~wpd/symon/ > Regards > Rudi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:26:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42922106564A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from monitor@1stnewsletters.com) Received: from smtp.1stinfosystems.com (ns1.1stinfosystems.com [207.178.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F158FC27 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from monitor@1stnewsletters.com) Received: from mail pickup service by smtp.1stinfosystems.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 03:26:33 -0700 From: "Jeff Kelley, DDS" X-NEWSLETTER1R: pTmmgXO3F4C78zgpFlpFOOcGt+c= X-NEWSLETTER2A: 000036084 To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <3dbd357d25a14af6a5ce5ee00a7daeed@1stnewsletters.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:26:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2008 10:26:33.0374 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE4E63E0:01C90F41] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Oral Disease: Gingivitis X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jakelleydds@sbcglobal.net List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:26:34 -0000 Greetings from Jeff Kelley, DDS! Oral Disease: Gingivitis Gingivitis is the most common periodontal disease, affecting 90% of the= population=2E It is an infection of the gums caused by bacteria that f= orm plaque=2E In small amounts (when it is newly formed), plaque is invisible and rel= atively harmless=2E But when left to accumulate, it increases in volume= and the proportion of harmful bacteria grows=2E=20 These bacteria release toxins that result in inflammation of the gum ti= ssue=2E Eventually, the plaque hardens and forms hard deposits called c= alculus or tartar=2E If not properly treated, gingivitis may progress to periodontitis, a pe= riodontal disease in which there is loss of the bone that supports the = teeth=2E If you have questions regarding gingivitis, please call our office at (= 817)877-1651 or email us at jakelleydds@sbcglobal=2Enet today=2E Best Regards, Jeff Kelley, DDS P=2ES=2E If you have any friends or family members who you feel could u= se our services, please don't hesitate to have them call us=2E We'll be= sure to take good care of them=2E From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:10:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B983106564A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from monitor@1stnewsletters.com) Received: from smtp.1stinfosystems.com (ns1.1stinfosystems.com [207.178.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FA98FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from monitor@1stnewsletters.com) Received: from mail pickup service by smtp.1stinfosystems.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:10:02 -0700 From: "Dr. Josh Leute" X-NEWSLETTER1R: pTmmgXO3F4C78zgpFlpFOOcGt+c= X-NEWSLETTER2A: 000036191 To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <84dd80d86d45489e8ec1ada8dd59e152@1stnewsletters.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:10:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2008 11:10:02.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[F179B630:01C90F47] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Oral Disease: Gingivitis X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: drleute@familydentistportwashington.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:10:01 -0000 Greetings from Dr=2E Josh Leute! Oral Disease: Gingivitis Gingivitis is the most common periodontal disease, affecting 90% of the= population=2E It is an infection of the gums caused by bacteria that f= orm plaque=2E In small amounts (when it is newly formed), plaque is invisible and rel= atively harmless=2E But when left to accumulate, it increases in volume= and the proportion of harmful bacteria grows=2E=20 These bacteria release toxins that result in inflammation of the gum ti= ssue=2E Eventually, the plaque hardens and forms hard deposits called c= alculus or tartar=2E If not properly treated, gingivitis may progress to periodontitis, a pe= riodontal disease in which there is loss of the bone that supports the = teeth=2E If you have questions regarding gingivitis, please call our office at (= 262)284-5884 or email us at drleute@familydentistportwashington=2Ecom t= oday=2E Best Regards, Dr=2E Josh Leute P=2ES=2E If you have any friends or family members who you feel could u= se our services, please don't hesitate to have them call us=2E We'll be= sure to take good care of them=2E From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:01:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FCC106564A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from monitor@1stnewsletters.com) Received: from smtp.1stinfosystems.com (ns1.1stinfosystems.com [207.178.197.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0318FC28 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from monitor@1stnewsletters.com) Received: from mail pickup service by smtp.1stinfosystems.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 05:01:11 -0700 From: "Dr. Julian H. Zhitnitsky" X-NEWSLETTER1R: pTmmgXO3F4C78zgpFlpFOOcGt+c= X-NEWSLETTER2A: 000036314 To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:01:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2008 12:01:11.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[17055BF0:01C90F4F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Oral Disease: Gingivitis X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: drz@dentistsherwood.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:01:11 -0000 Greetings from Dr=2E Julian H=2E Zhitnitsky! Oral Disease: Gingivitis Gingivitis is the most common periodontal disease, affecting 90% of the= population=2E It is an infection of the gums caused by bacteria that f= orm plaque=2E In small amounts (when it is newly formed), plaque is invisible and rel= atively harmless=2E But when left to accumulate, it increases in volume= and the proportion of harmful bacteria grows=2E=20 These bacteria release toxins that result in inflammation of the gum ti= ssue=2E Eventually, the plaque hardens and forms hard deposits called c= alculus or tartar=2E If not properly treated, gingivitis may progress to periodontitis, a pe= riodontal disease in which there is loss of the bone that supports the = teeth=2E If you have questions regarding gingivitis, please call our office at (= 818)785-8388 or email us at drz@dentistsherwood=2Ecom today=2E Best Regards, Dr=2E Julian H=2E Zhitnitsky P=2ES=2E If you have any friends or family members who you feel could u= se our services, please don't hesitate to have them call us=2E We'll be= sure to take good care of them=2E