From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 00:23:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B215B1065674 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E00C8FC1B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K0Nvie023938 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:48 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:23:49 -0000 Guys, Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? I'm not obcessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags and stuff would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this will go ino a special database, not html . is there some clever perl one-liner that would help me turn
Realization
into
Realization
?? tx for any clues, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 00:44:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2293D1065674 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FFF8FC18 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl133-207.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.252.207]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m6K0i8oD000962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:14 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K0i80L003624; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6K0i7Fu003623; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:48 -0700") Message-ID: <878wvxfkq0.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m6K0i8oD000962 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.787, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:44:22 -0000 On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:48 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, > Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? > > I'm not obcessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags > and stuff would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this will > go ino a special database, not html . > > is there some clever perl one-liner ... I don't know about 'easy', because this looks pretty much like 'free form HTML'. Parsing liberally formatted HTML code from untrusted sources is a lot like trying to reinvent Firefox's HTML parsing engine or something similar. That's bound to be up there in the 'insanely difficult' and not so much in the 'easy to hack with sed and a bit of awk or some Perl' scale. If you have some sort of guarantee about the well-formedness of the HTML source though (i.e. it passes some sort of validation suite), then you can probably use tidy(1) to convert it to XML and then use xsltproc to convert the XML source to pretty much anything imaginable. Now, if you want to merely "hack something quick and dirty", a short Perl script can probably do regexp substitution similar to # # WARNING: THIS HAS NOT BEEN TESTED :P # my $foo = ; $foo = s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:ge; print "$foo"; but you shouldn't trust the output of such a quick hack too much. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 00:45:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B361C1065674 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4D58FC16 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6K0js48077225; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:45:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F77EBA96; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:45:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:45:51 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080720004551.GA26045@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:45:57 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:23:48PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > Guys, >=20 > Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? > I'm not obcessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags and = stuff > would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this will go ino a spec= ial > database, not html . >=20 > is there some clever perl one-liner that would help me turn=20 >=20 >
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> ?? >=20 Insert a newline in front of every < : gsed -e "s/outfile Note that this requires GNU sed. It won't work with BSD sed. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiCir8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX0gACfUvtJeiHhHUU1HXhx++gdNJI8 M2IAnAwQYmgvtuLpJvHVpATFU7u2h3Da =3X4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 00:50:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7FD106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=5CApOo=YA=shell.siscom.net=vogelke@siscom.net) Received: from lamorack.siscom.net (lamorack.siscom.net [209.251.2.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B3D8FC14 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=5CApOo=YA=shell.siscom.net=vogelke@siscom.net) Received: from shell.siscom.net ([209.251.2.80]) by lamorack.siscom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KKMj9-0006lC-NJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:24:39 -0400 Received: by shell.siscom.net (Postfix, from userid 2198) id 89C0C115529; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id A32C9B7B6; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:23:01 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <487F1097.31417.718F23E@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20080720002301.A32C9B7B6@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:23:01 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+software@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: how to simulate a user's crontab? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+software@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:50:26 -0000 >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:27:51 +0200, >> "DA Forsyth" said: D> John, it is not a permissions issue, but rather a path issue. Do as the D> other poster suggested and run a cron job to dump the environment and you D> will see that the PATH inside a cron job is very rudimentary. Either add D> what you need to it in the crontab or cron job, or always use absolute D> paths for everything in a cron entry. D> alternatively, set up an AT job as the user, then find the script generated D> by at and grab a copy (/var/spool/cron ???). You can use that copy as the D> basis for all cron scripts for that user, and always have the 'user' D> environment set up correctly. I use templates for most of the things I write, so I don't end up making the same stupid off-by-one mistakes for things like handling command-line arguments. My template for a production shell script is below. * Why use the Korn shell instead of bash? "size" prints out the size of the text, data, and uninitialized data segments and their total for a given program. On Solaris: me% size /bin/ksh /bin/bash /bin/ksh: 166555 + 2022 + 6438 = 175015 /bin/bash: 535476 + 74216 + 13712 = 623404 BSD numbers have the same general idea. Bash is >3 times heavier than KSH in terms of memory use; if you need all that, fine, but if not, consider something lighter. David Korn is one of the brightest minds at AT&T, and any shell he writes to correct deficiencies in the original Bourne shell deserves a serious look. * Always set your PATH and umask to something safe. This way, you avoid unpleasant surprises if someone else runs your script, or if it's run from cron. * It should be easy to do things you do frequently. I use short functions like "logmsg" to write to the system log for long-running scripts, and "die" to print a useful error message and exit. This way, sanity checking becomes much less tedious, and if you want to change the format or destination of log messages, the change is made in *one* place. * Using a template makes it easier to be consistent when choosing things like command-line options; in just about everything I write, "-d" turns on debugging output, "-h" prints help, etc. This might not be a big deal if you're the only user, but if you work a help desk and you need to know why a script barfed all over itself when a customer's on the phone, it's a blessing. * It should be easy to find out what version is being run and where the source code is. The "-v" option prints the version and date, and the "-w" option prints the source location from the revision system I use: me% ./doit -v doit v1.1 2008/02/24 13:02:35 me% ./doit -w /src/script/RCS/doit,v -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company I remember when sex was safe and flying was dangerous. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/ksh # # NAME: # doit # # SYNOPSIS: # doit [-dhuvw] [-o outfile] [infile ...] # # DESCRIPTION: # program to ... # # OPTIONS: # "-d" turns debug output on. # "-h" prints help and exits. # "-o outfile" specifies the optional output file. # "-u" prints the UUID and exits. # "-v" prints the version and exits. # "-w" prints the location of the source code and exits. # # AUTHOR: # Your name # Your organization PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin export PATH umask 022 tag=`basename $0` # ======================== FUNCTIONS ============================= # logmsg: prints a string to the system log. logmsg () { logger -t $tag "$*" } # die: prints an optional argument to stderr and exits. # This works in subshells and loops, but may not exit with # a code other than 0. die () { echo "$tag: ERROR -- $*" >& 2 exit 1 } # usage: prints an optional string plus part of the comment # header (if any) to stderr, and exits with code 1. usage () { lines=`egrep -n '^# (NAME|AUTHOR)' $0 | cut -f1 -d:` ( case "$#" in 0) ;; *) echo "usage error: $*"; echo ;; esac case "$lines" in "") ;; *) set `echo $lines | sed -e 's/ /,/'` sed -n ${1}p $0 | sed -e 's/^#//g' | egrep -v AUTHOR: ;; esac ) >& 2 exit 1 } # Print the UUID for this script. Should be based on # something unique, like date-time-hostname. myuuid () { lsedscr='s/UUID: // s/\$//g' lid='$UUID: ee96ec96-5bab-3443-b0d4-e0d2c96a4ffd $' echo "$lid" | sed -e "$lsedscr" } # Print the current version and source location. version () { lsedscr='s/RCSfile: // s/.Date: // s/,v . .Revision: / v/ s/\$//g' lrevno='$RCSfile: doit,v $ $Revision: 1.1 $' lrevdate='$Date: 2008/02/24 13:02:35 $' echo "$lrevno $lrevdate" | sed -e "$lsedscr" } where () { lsedscr='s/Source: // s/\$//g' lsrc='$Source: /src/script/RCS/doit,v $' echo "$lsrc" | sed -e "$lsedscr" } # ======================== MAIN PROGRAM ========================== # Handle command line arguments. outfile= while getopts dho:uvw c do case $c in d) debug=yes ;; h) usage ;; o) outfile="$OPTARG" ;; u) myuuid; exit 0 ;; v) version; exit 0 ;; w) where; exit 0 ;; \?) usage "invalid argument" ;; esac done shift `expr $OPTIND - 1` # Real work starts here. for arg in $* do echo "arg: [$arg]" done # Example: using "die" for one-line sanity checks. test -d "$outfile" && die "cannot write to a directory" # Example: logmsg creates a syslog entry like this: # Jul 19 19:07:27 hostname doit: output file: [/tmp/x] test "$debug" = "yes" && logmsg "output file: [$outfile]" # Example: create a *safe* temporary file: # -rw------- 1 vogelke vogelke 0 Jul 19 19:27 /tmp/doit.3aaaRt tmpfile=`mktemp -q /tmp/$tag.XXXXXX` case "$?" in 0) trap "rm -f $tmpfile; exit 1" ERR ;; # ksh only *) die "$tag: can't create tmpfile" ;; esac rm -f $tmpfile exit 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 01:11:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4244106567A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4578FC2C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1007498rvf.43 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:11:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Uu76Qoay1lJkYWAzRAT2D1dHnO3KBhOIefMI43Xrto4=; b=iSWMMHqppu6Lo58+VxLx6fQqqcOT83mwrrLu3XmYK+Ncw+5bFC9tqI+O18ClmAorW8 E2if2rP97oBBOxV10WIWoGNiKFWWAV5n9YR86PCdXCGhilhQJtbfUEyPx7SfJHPqedvh FBrbXKhXMmHGdwX6ih/lLU1c9QWDXqIqd48AU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VEBKq46v5jlkUvXIV8VBLSw0dXl+JE4z79CkVnBrnUXKihgkhlZDPW5YmU44tO7lQO pvYTCSXkOFkv6k3TJooqE84Eq9alXU40XnQT1Azl9x2LtEKgVro2FWCBZa9+EG5Wwc6E /CHm/+CcJhjDW5XpXbYyVagx2eXsZgbgI2340= Received: by 10.141.13.16 with SMTP id q16mr999774rvi.99.1216516279263; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [71.221.162.227]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm2313631rvb.5.2008.07.19.18.11.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48829090.4050508@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:10:40 -0600 From: Andrew Falanga User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Reading from USB devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:11:19 -0000 Hi, I'd like to read data from a USB device that is not a thumb drive. How would I do this? For instance, it's an oximeter for reading biometrics. What libraries exist for reading things like VID/PID, and most importantly, reading the data from the device? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 02:03:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC0E106567D for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F039F8FC2E for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl133-207.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.252.207]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m6K23GjJ005632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:03:22 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K23Gr0004058; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:03:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6K23Fiq004057; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:03:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <878wvxfkq0.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:03:15 +0300 In-Reply-To: <878wvxfkq0.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0300") Message-ID: <87mykde2ho.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m6K23GjJ005632 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.789, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:03:29 -0000 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Now, if you want to merely "hack something quick and dirty", a short > Perl script can probably do regexp substitution similar to > > # > # WARNING: THIS HAS NOT BEEN TESTED :P > # > my $foo = ; > $foo = s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:ge; > print "$foo"; > > but you shouldn't trust the output of such a quick hack too much. As I wrote in reply to the personal email, this was untested and a bit wrong in places, but now I've tried something like: $ echo 'worldnext world' | \ perl -e '$foo = ; $foo =~ s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:g; print "$foo";' and it does seem to sort of work. The output is: world next world Maybe that's good enough? They say `the perfect is the enemy of good enough', so if this works for your data set, it's probably ok to use it :-) Have fun, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 02:53:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D67106566C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultkevjr@yahoo.com) Received: from n70.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n70.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 202F38FC18 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ultkevjr@yahoo.com) Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n70.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2008 02:39:51 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.171] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2008 02:39:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp506.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jul 2008 02:39:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 72164.3068.bm@omp506.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 42891 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2008 02:39:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ZVc4Kc8ofb31JNLsgYEH6Rr96+FQuHw8xqsfPMst3flHqP6z0nGY/9BBymMcD3eN326Tcm0DhkN1wwX75c/arJFJ+2x3pCwHAaDZGlaSyEk9XurT24uixk1UmMXsKMPw8KMQ8R7bw8polAbOjueRVe0VeL2tJTnfAi7ibwtoFUo=; Received: from [221.192.237.163] by web46116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:39:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin JR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1656032950-1216521590=:42462" Message-ID: <937405.42462.qm@web46116.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Need help to compile netlogin client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:53:29 -0000 --0-1656032950-1216521590=:42462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It must login first with a client before surf into Internet for me. The cli= ent can be compiled well under linux, however, it failed under freebsd due = to the following code dealing with acquire ip/mac information: [CODE] static void getAddr(int sockfd, struct usrinfoSet *pui) { =A0=A0=A0 struct ifreq addr; =A0=A0=A0 memset(&addr, 0x0, sizeof addr); =A0=A0=A0 strcpy(addr.ifr_name, pui -> dev); =A0=A0=A0 if (ioctl(sockfd, SIOCGIFADDR, (char *)&addr) =3D=3D -1) { =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 perror("ioctl"); =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 exit(EXIT_FAILURE); =A0=A0=A0 } =A0=A0=A0 strcpy(pui -> ip, inet_ntoa(((struct sockaddr_in *)&addr.ifr_addr= ) -> sin_addr)); =A0=A0=A0 memset(&addr, 0, sizeof addr); =A0=A0=A0 strcpy(addr.ifr_name, (*pui).dev); =A0=A0=A0 if(ioctl(sockfd, SIOCGIFHWADDR, (char *)&addr) =3D=3D -1) { =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 perror("ioctl"); =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 exit(EXIT_FAILURE); =A0=A0=A0 } =A0=A0=A0 memcpy(pui -> mac, addr.ifr_hwaddr.sa_data, 0x6); } [/CODE] The full source and client are attached. Thanks in advance! =0A=0A=0A --0-1656032950-1216521590=:42462-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 04:20:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666361065672 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275DF8FC0C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so364375ana.13 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:20:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=3lqhdmmCUPnN8I1Tgx3SAJEd3j9/bHZXvMhbglwufUI=; b=KiCQ6djB5HX6HLYzbJ6bwEc3wRYMK53xvr4QoHXOA+RhVXF45LFW54K+Sy8kWv100O GWXkzAiiWsADr0XfYCk+MtlPwNfVTqhh9k0gh8oUprkitvnzz2uaq+LLM/m6ag3lJtXu 9meQBFiXK07KFGz3GWx57DeM7nbdettdBrSRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mN2b8TMkFmhDYscfx9ih0Xg3L8/Mz4Vd6hqB8ZubRcmPAYMRyMkfsxWU8kBRWHwiw+ mvLFjvAogwDtkCy8axHnKHae4Y56/otvcPrj1BAHGdV2CLhnXSm9ClpYN+QuF5nlxXHg hTn3Q70eJP1cdOKVQzEbTD0nrAllX9akpywJ4= Received: by 10.100.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr1179704anc.54.1216527605959; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.231.20 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:05 -0300 From: luizbcampos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: rtorrent refuses to open bittorrent file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:20:07 -0000 As I am a new user to rtorrent I would like to know how to set it up properly. After I had configured .rc.rtorrent when I type --anyfile.torrent -- I got the answer that rtorrent is unable to open such a file... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 05:06:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D3A106566B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C988FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU126-W49 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:06:02 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.192.204.41] From: Desmond Chapman To: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:06:01 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2008 05:06:02.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E2D0810:01C8EA26] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: re: debug messages for system crash output- Kennaway&others X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:06:03 -0000 I solved the problem. I didn't find any documentation on what to do. _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=3Dtag_jlyhm= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 05:34:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F1D106566C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B958FC14 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so573539tid.3 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:34:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url:x-openpgp-id :x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os:x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type :sender; bh=853EesRCpvHXxuW9eMfCGiLK8474unuVnq9R8bVaU2c=; b=Qs/TXXe6SJCYZmdvfnLhJPdjMJUgMIJBusgw1AYp7JwJlvS+dO5YmSsyWPj1lYF1hC MZXMJslcXBmpudPCI6/vVdOiJoP6YDavfEnHK5c9h4p7/vpIWbLvMeZ2NypGvsq5FynE 0ZkGU/f7EEOX8KQuiMTjbQOAhnZrY/l0PkrdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url :x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os:x-mailer:x-mail-morse :x-attribution:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face :mime-version:content-type:sender; b=sYyIZ2gW/F+OlG9jwiS0WDVq8hki3jRASBRisVWh3B5+7yCdgKElCQ5wSBJu5kAr0+ cROuL+Nqj79Pd3Us7pjkUSX5flz6C+QG7Xcmcti2U+nUdEla0FW7Uc1IsUZ5dMHGFRBT 3ALML4INj9xIDp1Rsmp98XyAmxgLWYY5ci/GA= Received: by 10.110.15.19 with SMTP id 19mr2107001tio.42.1216532061718; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.lf ( [122.162.55.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm7348363tic.14.2008.07.19.22.34.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IA==?= =?utf-8?B?4KS24KWB4KSV4KWN4KSy?=) To: RW Organization: The Church of Emacs References: <20080719134440.GA9147@chateau.d.lf> <20080719223434.249f4888@gumby.homeunix.com.> X-Face: "\:nMpJ)EA!j>2nEu-[(+&o:N+CtL^AS\, Jv*LO5qBr#W2.\=d (RW's message of "Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:34:34 +0100") Message-ID: <87ljzxjey8.fsf@chateau.d.lf> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEVfX1/8/PwTExMDAwO0 tLSampr////f398oKCi/v78MDAwICAihq32EAAACU0lEQVQ4jW3UvWvbQBQA8LOJsJIsOajtZAtH Aqq8FLQUvNjhCex2UYpE7XYytPJalxJnFMImqrOkIJfcZtwGgrqEhELQ/XN9p+jLbc+Drfvx7r17 9jNxszXCV2mR9P3ACoKAOM5bugn1hRBRFAnxeErLMN4RIpbwYKwmZfgkMGDNol8PhlFrFDDalQcx BMMwXpwV8KElYqYzpmOA0a4UsC/EmrEU4ptGDq9kghTabP09g9EuFiSpJQOYXslgrEd6Aj8Q7pl+ kcFH3NRlUTIFfvyZwV4sEzwV20a4y2A/BWEYLxdYwk0Gn+Mohfa2X4bXsn8StC0uYdVI4T02cK0F is15ArcZYKeER5Q+f4JofZZHiPshJPt8BwtPrp4kF+KOp+sdpjvOjqpf3n+1bD6dTjk3ySKuZVU1 ezcdpm3h/pL4h9eP3Rw6R5bqa9t86a/1W3OVd7dpzgBMx8YAxVFgvgmqDTwEdQignOVgI1ggoQMA x40CFHzmCHgXcEoAig39MOSATTGt5znQL4qDIRIgNK2LAqYWAl47lBGDSgHNjoOt6vdDkNAtQc9E wN0EJgXQN7aMSABIGU7mMiI5CtQJzX9w9PwQYOApVqBwCMqwp9lmkKzh0qM5uPTAn/Vw0ogazK9m JRjR6pHqEVyqd1XbgPPfKkgAddClxRi49NmKcNMh+JV4T7mzqW1e2jwk3pAPjugGuCfHPLRIP/Qr tLEB9daW7HrvcLIx55i/9zjkfMlO//pnwLHyPcupzrL9AtxrFgTaN/dfGFcjreb+B9wmnzaKpz8p dKsBFjzeRQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksiBBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xh?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel mode PPPoE or User mode PPPoE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:34:23 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 RW writes: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:14:40 +0530 > ____________ _______________ Ashish Shukla wrote: >> Hi >> >> I wanted to know if I'm using user-mode PPPoE or kernel-mode PPPoE. >> I'm following the handbook[1] to setup my PPPoE interface. Is there >> any way I can figure out this ? > If you are starting it from the standard rc.d script, you are using > user ppp. > I think kernel ppp is a legacy feature that was used before the > kernel supported tun interfaces. I don't know of any reason for still > using it. Won't you get any speed improvements with PPP connection in kernel-mode PPP as compared to user-mode PPP ? > IIRC with kernel ppp you run pppd (note the d) as root, and the > interface shows-up as ppp0; with user ppp, you run ppp as any user, > and the interface shows-up as tun0. I use 'ppp -ddial my-adsl-provider' and it creates a 'tun0' interface. So this means I'm doing user-mode PPP. Thanks Ashish -- ·-- ·- ···· ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiCzpMACgkQHy+EEHYuXnSOmgCdFgirCIQvuWkghdDIDPE0MvXL RmEAn0DL1B2u4+s/KNSbeg6dMuKmn0qZ =hUu+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 05:44:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306481065672 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walt@wump.org) Received: from que11.charter.net (que11.charter.net [209.225.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6F68FC16 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walt@wump.org) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080720052044.TKXJ15793.mta31.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net>; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:44 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.10] (really [68.116.98.9]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080720052044.CQCX7436.aarprv04.charter.net@[10.0.0.10]>; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:23:09 -0700 To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List From: Walt Pawley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:44:32 -0000 At 5:23 PM -0700 7/19/08, Gary Kline wrote: >Guys, > >Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? >I'm not obcessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags and stuff >would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this will go ino a special >database, not html . > >is there some clever perl one-liner that would help me turn > >
Realization
> >into > >
> > >Realization >
I've been using this ... #!/usr/bin/perl # Process HTML data on STDIN into one tag per line form on STDOUT while (<>) { s/\r/\n/gs; s//>\n/gs; s/\n\s*/\n/gs; s/^\s*//; print "$_" } ... for quite some time under the name "tag1". It's come in very handy. -- Walter M. Pawley Wump Research & Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470 541-672-8975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 06:39:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5D7106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AF68FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K6btdK025892; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:37:46 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20080720063746.GB21826@thought.org> References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <878wvxfkq0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87mykde2ho.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87mykde2ho.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:39:17 -0000 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 05:03:15AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Now, if you want to merely "hack something quick and dirty", a short > > Perl script can probably do regexp substitution similar to > > > > # > > # WARNING: THIS HAS NOT BEEN TESTED :P > > # > > my $foo = ; > > $foo = s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:ge; > > print "$foo"; > > > > but you shouldn't trust the output of such a quick hack too much. > > As I wrote in reply to the personal email, this was untested and a bit > wrong in places, but now I've tried something like: > > $ echo 'worldnext world' | \ > perl -e '$foo = ; $foo =~ s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:g; print "$foo";' > > and it does seem to sort of work. The output is: > > world > next world > > Maybe that's good enough? They say `the perfect is the enemy of good > enough', so if this works for your data set, it's probably ok to use it :-) > > Have fun, > Giorgos > Fun?! welll, but yes, anything that can save me from hand-editing ~~70 files will be a riot;) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 07:11:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E01106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vlado@netng.org) Received: from mail.clnet.cz (mail.clnet.cz [213.180.32.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3068FC12 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vlado@netng.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.clnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A34A194A; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:54:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at clnet.cz Received: from mail.clnet.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.clnet.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTP id J09WcZWdwtqa; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:54:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ace.botka.homeunix.org (unknown [213.180.61.246]) by mail.clnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F3AA1952; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:54:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ace.botka.homeunix.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F8E31C3; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:53:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vlado.g1.netng.org (ac.botka.homeunix.org [192.168.1.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ace.botka.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFDE1BF; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:53:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:54:55 +0200 From: Vladimir Botka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080720085455.089619db@vlado.g1.netng.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Fetchmail: Error message in maillog [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:11:43 -0000 Hello, fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused. Just for the record. The problem is solved with these few lines in the /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf # inet_interfaces = 192.168.1.6, 127.0.0.1, [::1] smtp_bind_address = 0.0.0.0 smtp_bind_address6 = :: inet_protocols = all # Have fun, -vlado Vladimir Botka From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 07:35:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0E1065672 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walsimou@walsimou.com) Received: from bekkor.walsimou.com (walscop001.walsimou.com [82.228.201.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7F88FC16 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walsimou@walsimou.com) Received: from [192.168.1.174] (AMarseille-253-1-25-141.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.205.200.141]) (AUTH: LOGIN walsimou@walsimou.com, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3, 256bits, AES256-SHA) by bekkor.walsimou.com with esmtp; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:22:03 +0200 id 01093D1F.4882E79B.00000DB8 Message-ID: <4882E833.3060304@walsimou.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:24:35 +0200 From: Gaye Abdoulaye Walsimou User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:35 -0000 Mike Jeays a écrit : > On July 19, 2008 04:21:03 pm Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > >> On Saturday 19 July 2008 15:40:53 Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> ... or the equivalent in your >>> local currency. Yes really :) >>> >>> Kris >>> >> ROFL to death ! >> Sorry .. couldn't help it ... >> You made me spit my pepsi all over my desktop ! >> Thanks!! >> > > How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest > measurement for approximations to zero... > > Your comments are useless and stigmatizes people who suffers (Zimbabwe). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 07:42:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3051065672 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766258FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6363F97E67; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:19:22 +0530 (IST) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id F3C20230FF; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:12:04 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id D435E155F7; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:12:04 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6K7ZqFD027229; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:05:52 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6K7ZnEM027228; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:05:49 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20080720004551.GA26045@slackbox.xs4all.nl> (Roland Smith's message of "Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:45:51 +0200") References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <20080720004551.GA26045@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:05:49 +0530 Message-ID: <863am5atyi.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:42:12 -0000 At 2008-07-20T02:45:51+02:00, Roland Smith wrote: > Insert a newline in front of every < : > > gsed -e "s/outfile > > Note that this requires GNU sed. It won't work with BSD sed. It is possible with native `sed' if the newline character in the replacement string is properly escaped: two backslashes, followed by Ctrl-V, and then the newline. [/home/raghu]% which sed /usr/bin/sed [/home/raghu]% echo 'worldnext world' | sed 's/world next world However, this doesn't do what the OP wanted: "world", etc., must appear on separate lines. Here is a second approximation: [/home/raghu]% cat foo.sed s//>\ /g [/home/raghu]% cat foo.html worldbetween hells...next world [/home/raghu]% sed -f foo.sed foo.html | sed '/^$/d' world between hells... next world Perhaps the pipe to remove blank lines can be incorporated into `foo.sed', but I don't know how. Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 07:55:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F831065673 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957558FC15 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so584854tid.3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:55:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qk9XeyEGMoilD29wf2f8iF/i0sESIPwFYyA1rpklnlM=; b=velbLww6s3mJSYVUVUa6yBqBSAhv+3YZa/4oZyqXw9OVY8ahubxJqF5RVnAgEGKiPx LNWGukwBRBD5HcrZmM6LFA1ZfZqsu8miTeVCllZ0WG6adOo4w5a8ByaUA5SHIpRsHZPf 8YqGFQ6p4F7/ePqkTQt1BcTx+2hRrbUGYpOGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=dRx8KUSBuiSqoGC42M/zdO64o8LY/XgocZkhJVzpqqApSLSBILRUXH+OIKvLVhfVcs HcbcfYlGpNGQ7kuxuDBmAY8DiPhLIZRV2aHXBunEAgswnXZo0MOVfsyXOrD6FJXOCHcj HEGgg5gZNLMkYNehzQ22nQ9oMuqFLExnDLD9I= Received: by 10.110.46.14 with SMTP id t14mr2247847tit.22.1216540527018; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.10.161? ( [124.157.244.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y5sm7315261tia.8.2008.07.20.00.55.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: OutBackDingo To: Mike Jeays In-Reply-To: <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:55:22 +0700 Message-Id: <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:55:29 -0000 > How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest > measurement for approximations to zero... I think this is a bit uncalled for, it might have been in a candid manner, but there are alot of locations in the world using FreeBSD quite effectively where most people live on less then a dollar a day Id also like to note your so called US dollar isnt fairing so well. Pretty soon might it also be worth 0.00. I do think we should try not to insult the ecomonics of other countries From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 07:56:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABFD1065674 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A20C8FC21 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62A497E55; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:34:02 +0530 (IST) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B584230FF; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:26:45 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A742155F7; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:26:45 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6K7oh40027321; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:20:43 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6K7oVNH027320; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:20:31 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:23:48 -0700") References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:20:31 +0530 Message-ID: <86y73x9epk.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:56:49 -0000 At 2008-07-19T17:23:48-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? > I'm not obcessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags > and stuff would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this > will go ino a special database, not html . > > is there some clever perl one-liner ... I suggest that instead of such ad hoc solutions, you checkout the port `www/tidy'. It provides a reasonable pretty printer for HTML. However, it doesn't print every tag on a separate line. I think its behaviour in this respect is close to the style guidelines in the FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer [10.1.4.2, Separating tags]. Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 08:09:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE8A106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CB28FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6K86HLs022810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:06:18 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:10:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <87mykde2ho.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20080720063746.GB21826@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080720063746.GB21826@thought.org> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.375 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:09:51 -0000 On Sunday 20 July 2008 08:37, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 05:03:15AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > Now, if you want to merely "hack something quick and dirty", a short > > > Perl script can probably do regexp substitution similar to > > > > > > # > > > # WARNING: THIS HAS NOT BEEN TESTED :P > > > # > > > my $foo = ; > > > $foo = s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:ge; > > > print "$foo"; > > > > > > but you shouldn't trust the output of such a quick hack too much. > > > > As I wrote in reply to the personal email, this was untested and a bit > > wrong in places, but now I've tried something like: > > > > $ echo 'worldnext world' | \ > > perl -e '$foo = ; $foo =~ s:(<[^>]+>[^<]*]+>):$1\n:g; print > > "$foo";' > > > > and it does seem to sort of work. The output is: > > > > world > > next world > > > > Maybe that's good enough? They say `the perfect is the enemy of good > > enough', so if this works for your data set, it's probably ok to use it > > :-) > > > > Have fun, > > Giorgos > > Fun?! welll, but yes, anything that can save me from > hand-editing ~~70 files will be a riot;) I haven't tried it, but I suspect if the simple approach fails, HTML::Tidy may well have an option which would help. It can be installed from CPAN or ports, where it is textproc/p5-HTML-Tidy. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 08:17:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24B5106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856B98FC15 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K8Hcj4032790; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:17:30 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Walt Pawley Message-ID: <20080720081730.GD21826@thought.org> References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:17:31 -0000 On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:23:09PM -0700, Walt Pawley wrote: > At 5:23 PM -0700 7/19/08, Gary Kline wrote: > >Guys, > > > >Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? > >I'm not obcessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags and stuff > >would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this will go ino a special > >database, not html . > > > >is there some clever perl one-liner that would help me turn > > > >
Realization
> > > >into > > > >
> > > > > >Realization > >
> > I've been using this ... > > #!/usr/bin/perl > # Process HTML data on STDIN into one tag per line form on STDOUT > while (<>) { > s/\r/\n/gs; > s/ s/>/>\n/gs; > s/\n\s*/\n/gs; > s/^\s*//; > print "$_" > } > > ... for quite some time under the name "tag1". It's come in very handy. thanks much, walt --- and everyone else whose ideas helped my shoulder. i have your tag1 in my ~/bin file on my www server it works as adveertised. a note here to rollland smith: i was originally thinking of [[ i tried using ]] tr => tr ">" to \n. Among other things. your idea of using gsed gave me the idea of putting the \n aftter the ">" followed bt a \n. of course this addded in *annnoying* newlines. BUT ``grep -v "^$" axes newlines, so using grit.php, here cut down to spare spamming or wasting resources is the before after: // old, after tidy: # t grit.php
Grit

Patience wears the granite face of wisdom,
discovering the truth of humility and joy.
Hope and faith stand in its silence.
using roland's gsed and a pipe that axes \n's: // fixed, MUCH easier to read: # gsed -e "s/>/>\n/g" Grit

Patience wears the granite face of wisdom,
discovering the truth of humility and joy.
Hope and faith stand in its silence.
I've been meeaning to get around to this for years, and thr time is now. this is just a tiny example of the superiority of the unix smalll-is-beautiful model. [ blah**3] gary > -- > > Walter M. Pawley > Wump Research & Company > 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97470 > 541-672-8975 -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 08:40:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1805E1065675 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A018FC0C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216A85C30; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:41:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id TKbnjgppdexq; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:40:50 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: OutBackDingo Message-ID: <20080720084050.GA13221@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: OutBackDingo , Mike Jeays , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> Cc: Mike Jeays , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:54 -0000 OutBackDingo wrote: > > How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest > > measurement for approximations to zero... > > I think this is a bit uncalled for, it might have been in a candid > manner, but there are alot of locations in the world using FreeBSD > quite effectively where most people live on less then a dollar a day > Id also like to note your so called US dollar isnt fairing so well. > Pretty soon might it also be worth 0.00. I do think we should try not to > insult the ecomonics of other countries Your reply is full of fallacies, false assumptions and one or two non sequiturs. But anyway, this is thread is veering way off topic, so let's close it. Thanks. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 09:20:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B93106566B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FE18FC15 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so591527tid.3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:20:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XkpyLaj0ac6++T6FUQbwXdoAZV6aJaVd86DaS5DkGMk=; b=Bd3Ya2ggcIMWJGp85hGDbselQLhxmZ/s7qKwW3QqaGOk2qHPFbrJjkXTTAPH83bhOh A9cINlahIJMy1bEE18+xXNPW+/U1osJLJZ++UzFG/EONaWUDbf0GMJ9763UPBayMnrLT B4woFVcA9xgMCV/9zDWtyaATcrBlvX94R0clA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=lG/hIIl359QaYiwxi4edoTRmCwwfGB6qXFM1Q7f1mPcB3ZtEgwQZnPXqPbbSAdVlVu q2Gana+mjT+zf9k2XZ3H4b/lSiT13kGcVHw05z+ns/Z7Bov3al6/n/yzWT+j6qlH4jkf MSLfcqYYrpQ9sgv+mOXEoxSteK+zXy8KitPHM= Received: by 10.110.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr2317394tik.29.1216545629571; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.10.161? ( [124.157.244.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm7810316tic.14.2008.07.20.02.20.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: OutBackDingo To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20080720084050.GA13221@shepherd> References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> <20080720084050.GA13221@shepherd> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:20:26 +0700 Message-Id: <1216545626.6845.21.camel@dingo-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sahil Tandon Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:20:31 -0000 ROFL, right, whatever..!!! On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 04:40 -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > full of fallacies, false assumptions and one or two non > sequiturs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 09:28:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D3C1065675; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CA88FC08; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K9S1fW009771; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:28:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6K9RwtS009768; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:28:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:27:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lars Eighner In-Reply-To: <20080719165037.O19084@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Message-ID: <20080720112722.U9767@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <20080719165037.O19084@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Kris Kennaway , wrag@lipetsk.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:28:10 -0000 > > Let's see, ... that would be approximately $149*10^12 Zimbabwe. 10^3 - one thousand 10^6 - one million 10^9 - one billion 10^12 - one trillion 10^100 - one mugabe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 09:55:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4DE106566C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697FC8FC19 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6K9tYZK033412; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:55:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:55:25 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "N. Raghavendra" Message-ID: <20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org> References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <86y73x9epk.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86y73x9epk.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:55:32 -0000 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:20:31PM +0530, N. Raghavendra wrote: > At 2008-07-19T17:23:48-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? > > I'm not obsessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags > > and stuff would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this > > will go ino a special database, not html . > > > > is there some clever perl one-liner ... > > I suggest that instead of such ad hoc solutions, you checkout the port > `www/tidy'. It provides a reasonable pretty printer for HTML. > However, it doesn't print every tag on a separate line. I think its > behaviour in this respect is close to the style guidelines in the > FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer [10.1.4.2, Separating tags]. > > Raghavendra. > Thanks, but I've very recently become acquainted with tidy and have begun using it on my main index.php--thought.org's "www" page. This page was an almost unreadable rat's net of by-hand coded html. (as i move toward another mark-up standard.) using your script, or mine, based on Roland smith's, will be a great help. I knew there were ways of embedding \n's in scripts and signatures, &c, but until your posting, i had forgoooten exactly how. thank you for the refresher! I'll check the FBSD Docs for `Separating Tags'; that level of obscurity is beyond amazing, :-) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 10:11:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C71106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0388FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id C032C97E7B; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:48:59 +0530 (IST) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D7A623101; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:41:42 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDDC1852A; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:41:42 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6KA5ewn027931; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:35:40 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6KA5c4c027930; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:35:38 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:55:25 -0700") References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <86y73x9epk.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> <20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:35:38 +0530 Message-ID: <86y73w50r1.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:11:50 -0000 At 2008-07-20T02:55:25-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: > Thanks, but I've very recently become acquainted with tidy and have > begun using it on my main index.php--thought.org's "www" page. This > page was an almost unreadable rat's net of by-hand coded html. (as > i move toward another mark-up standard.) using your script, or > mine, based on Roland smith's, will be a great help. > > I knew there were ways of embedding \n's in scripts and signatures, > &c, but until your posting, i had forgoooten exactly how. thank you > for the refresher! You are welcome. > I'll check the FBSD Docs for `Separating Tags'; that level of > obscurity is beyond amazing, :-) Just in case the "obscurity" refers to the location of the document, here is its URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/writing-style.html Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 10:24:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BCA106567B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0288FC1C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6KANvPo039539; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:24:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m6KANvPo039539 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1216549442; bh=cc5CjroMlG51LT HZqSrgHmgevMxwxBHuoRZfbH23m0o=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48831237.7090200@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 020=20Jul=202008=2011:23:51=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Gary=20Kline=20|CC:=20"N.=20Raghavendra "=20,=20=0D=0A=20FreeBSD=20Mailing=20List=20|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20divide=20u p?|References:=20<20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org>=09<86y73x9epk. fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in>=20<20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org>|In -Reply-To:=20<20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org>|X-Enigmail-Versio n:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha2 56=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bou ndary=3D"------------enig22B98340C047BA5C12C269F6"; b=q0jln21HD9PF2 l3QCBg5UtkmolTuRpOAipHVRAZntcQ7jP4pZhNOohrwl8VCh7dcex5YHr2XmklS+qmx +vyrKsyMc79SO7iy7ePfF53NVbYqL1pnFJt2yDwKp9aXmWw7ca3kxFq+yjDGqYq8oZw 8Q/NvsyXAhBYo38umOTKcx8Y= Message-ID: <48831237.7090200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:23:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080720002345.GA9173@thought.org> <86y73x9epk.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> <20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080720095525.GB29612@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig22B98340C047BA5C12C269F6" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:24:02 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/7760/Sun Jul 20 03:11:36 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , "N. Raghavendra" Subject: Re: How to divide up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:24:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig22B98340C047BA5C12C269F6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 01:20:31PM +0530, N. Raghavendra wrote: >> At 2008-07-19T17:23:48-07:00, Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> Is there an easyy way of splitting yp these tags into one-per-line? >>> I'm not obsessive [[?, :)]], but for what I've got in mind, the tags >>> and stuff would look better to my eyes? ....the outcome of this >>> will go ino a special database, not html . >>> >>> is there some clever perl one-liner ... >> I suggest that instead of such ad hoc solutions, you checkout the port= >> `www/tidy'. It provides a reasonable pretty printer for HTML. >> However, it doesn't print every tag on a separate line. I think its >> behaviour in this respect is close to the style guidelines in the >> FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer [10.1.4.2, Separating tags]. >> >> Raghavendra. >> >=20 > Thanks, but I've very recently become acquainted with tidy and have beg= un > using it on my main index.php--thought.org's "www" page. This page > was an almost unreadable rat's net of by-hand coded html. (as i move > toward another mark-up standard.) using your script, or mine, based= on > Roland smith's, will be a great help. =20 >=20 > I knew there were ways of embedding \n's in scripts and signatures, &c,= > but until your posting, i had forgoooten exactly how. thank you for > the refresher! =20 >=20 > I'll check the FBSD Docs for `Separating Tags'; that level of obscurity= is > beyond amazing, :-) > =20 Alternatively, if your aim is to simplify the HTML, you could switch to using CSS. You'ld change:
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('span' here is just a handy all-purpose tag for identifying a chunk of stuff: the same mechanism can be applied to any HTML tag.) Add this in the section of the HTML: and have a file style.css in you web root containing (inter alia) =2Efoo { text-align: center; font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: "medium"; color: #333366; } See http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cover.html for the full story. User of CSS has a number of advantages. First off, it abstracts the definition of the style into one place. Suppose you decide that medium sized pale blue text is pass=E9 and want it written in 24pt=20 white sans-serif on a black background? Instead of having to grep through all of your HTML files, now you just have to edit one file. The other advantage is more subtle. You divide, conceptually, deciding what a piece of text's /function/ is from deciding what it should /look=20 like/. So if the bit of text is, say, an aphorism that you're quoting, you can just declare it to be class=3D"aphorism" in the HTML markup when writing that page, and then define a .aphorism { }=20 section in your stylesheet, later on when it won't interrupt your train of thought. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig22B98340C047BA5C12C269F6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkiDEj0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxO4QCZAV/aiSXiNi3HlkDnV8oCAxmt 3wgAnjWgQmakSSkmb/mDAFMCPnbuY6S7 =vFxl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig22B98340C047BA5C12C269F6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 13:23:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DDA106567A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3848FC18 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 45987 invoked by uid 89); 20 Jul 2008 13:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 20 Jul 2008 13:23:24 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: <9B40E44D-C395-49E2-8BC6-1188DB8FD65E@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Marketcircle-Dmi-Agent: From: John Almberg Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:22:46 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Fwd: how to simulate a user's crontab? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:23:28 -0000 > I use templates for most of the things I write, so I don't end > up making > the same stupid off-by-one mistakes for things like handling > command-line > arguments. My template for a production shell script is below. > You raise a lot of interesting ideas Karl. I too am always looking to 'systematize' work, not only because I need efficiency, but because I hate having to learn things twice... Nothing bugs me more than knowing that I need to figure out how to do something I figured out 6 months or a year ago. Actually, I highly recommend a Mac program called Yojimbo, that is a kind of general purpose memory tool. You can throw all sorts of information into it, and find it very easily when you need it. Fantastic program and I don't know of anything like it on other platforms. Anyway, I'm definitely going to throw your entire email, particularly the template, into Yojimbo as saved knowledge. I am working on an important script right now, and I'm going to put your template to immediate use. I'll also take a look at the korn shell. I've used bash for many years, but I'm not in love with it. I'm certainly open to a better shell. Great post. Thanks! -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 13:35:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C31106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4DB8FC08 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:35:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 18362 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 08:35:44 -0500 Received: from 203-166-248-146.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO ayiin) (203.166.248.146) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 08:35:44 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:35:40 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080720233540.099ddd46@ayiin> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rtorrent refuses to open bittorrent file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:35:45 -0000 On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:05 -0300 luizbcampos wrote: > As I am a new user to rtorrent I would like to know how to set it > up properly. After I had configured .rc.rtorrent when I type > --anyfile.torrent -- I got the answer that rtorrent is unable to open > such a file... hey, what happens if you type /the/full/path/to/anyfile.torrent ? _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 13:52:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3078106566C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD73C8FC1C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6KDnU4w037511; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:49:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6KDnU6G037510; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:49:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:49:30 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: wrag@lipetsk.ru Message-ID: <20080720134930.GA37491@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:52:47 -0000 On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:18:13PM +0400, wrag@lipetsk.ru wrote: > What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? > > it's important for me. I must know. Regardless of how far Off Topic some seem to want to go, the reply by Kris is correct. FreeBSD is free. The only cost is media to burn your own boot CD. You can download it all freely from the www.freebsd.org website. The handbook on that site will tell you how. Read it carefully first. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 14:28:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545101065676 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295248FC14 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1139211rvf.43 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=ArbERZw+fl97hQcV+EiiyBdH/pOxWXeT+zaHay9YAg8=; b=hXhPTbP+j9BLVCEMF3znYCieXVSWvsz17Q4/P14ciaJJglNVEOn7rTB/kdM2T/Wru4 QQqqGSohKFdLw1L2Rg7jsWfQ7v8YFgIQaPgz6h/iudVhlx0pXOc5ae1qVrBkR+g9qpdz s0iDEKlYug8Zg9vg5S4mi3917VR7Kfq0zTkk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=ABAmFJMhI1v698P0K2J3VBLQYFIDx1jRr8PqffMzdMDe/UH7RCMnYmgkCdlDclIaMV ZZUV7QGJcEvHbMqzHhxhvP7OK9gRvWhVphMnqehT9mcAqGtuUO+vT+a/orpo8Dv7MdB6 eoucnn4A/LgrRTv9QxUHLA4fYNM4e8kgVKx+c= Received: by 10.141.75.17 with SMTP id c17mr1261753rvl.212.1216564124555; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sniper ( [71.221.183.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm3808723rvb.2.2008.07.20.07.28.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Falanga To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:28:04 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807200828.05153.af300wsm@gmail.com> Subject: Having trouble installing joomla from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:28:45 -0000 Hi, I've installed the joomla CMS program from the ports tree. Then, following the instructions from joomla's website, started the installation process. The first step in the process is to test for system requirements. It says I'm failing the Zlib compression support requirement. What is it looking for? I have php5-zlib installed from ports. What Zlib package does it want to have? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 14:35:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5598E106566C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268D88FC0A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1140915rvf.43 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=JeZcsoo0OQ3q0inU0CSOrUvzCZLTBmkFYb+uA+IbfmY=; b=JOfUOxa2Q6podlbtqOs2F7MpGHOugBgJBwM8v594LOAr0I0xqDidUazS9hiClLg50k 1Go1mL2/76DftZfGVZxR4fqKJTQIBctvtL7/oimiLbR9o44ptiIQrp1ZzW7vgCzDYzhX qJCjBL0GkJqnisrInVrFemrjxf66sl3yoBxZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=hm6mxhyPQnLAwBA27Wx8IGaniO5GgPdca1Ot8Zh1EL6erbwzRBHErsL69NjCV/YIN4 T0kvF1gca246nbjPHPrr006T7Y11DtKXoayqYmC4juTMsiKt9YK691fF56C2Nvh4qeyU ymylerPdN6gpnqykAXqFLd0+S5F0ww9ivIMfE= Received: by 10.141.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr1264940rvi.205.1216564556627; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sniper ( [71.221.183.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm6764061rvb.3.2008.07.20.07.35.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Falanga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:35:21 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807200835.21640.af300wsm@gmail.com> Cc: Edward Sutton Subject: Re: Any advice for learning debugging threading and stack corruption problems for c/c++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:35:57 -0000 On Wednesday 16 July 2008 13:41:46 Edward Sutton wrote: > I have had a very hard time trying to debug which has hindered my work on > some projects. In particular I have had trouble properly grasping how to > work with debugging multi threaded applications, memory errors, and stack > corruption. I know that it is not a five minute learning process to absorb > such knowledge, but I have not yet found helpful references. I have had > best luck trying to logically guess a location close to the problem, then > setting a break and walking through the code. Once I hit a segfault, I run > through the code with a breakpoint bringing me to just before the problem, > but do not always understand how to go further. Strange things I see look > like bad pointer addresses or the problems being caused within another > thread. Since moving to FreeBSD7, I have been unable to use valgrind (which > did not seem to help much on multi threaded apps) and I have not found a > way to test binaries in the work directories and have had to install it to > test it. At present, either gdb alone or kdbg seem to be the only ways I > have been able to get even partially reliable responses from gdb because > other interfaces disregard breakpoints and interrupts to execution. Are > such difficulties common? On another similar topic, is there a good place > to start learning about limitations to system internals, such as > kern.ipc.shmmax and why I may 'not' want to set it to excessively high > values or how other values relate to changing it? How can I tell what cap > is occurring, whether it be a system limit or something controlled within > the app such as with pthread_attr_setstacksize() and how are 'proper' > values determined? The books "advanced programming in the unix environment" > and "programming with posix threads" help me learn the unix world a bit > better, but without debugging knowledge I find it hard to get anywhere with > writing more than my high school level of programs and very difficult to > get anywhere on the projects of others once threads and/or dynamic memory > is involved. Any suggested course for further study from here? > Thanks again, > Edward Sutton, III Debugging threaded applications is an exercise in frustration and downright irritation. There aren't many easy methods. It seems that you're already familiar with gdb so brush up on how to attach to specific threads within the application and such. Usually, it seems that problems with multi-threaded programming come from two threads trying to access the same structure, or object, at the same time. Look through your code and make sure you're not doing something like this. For example, one thread is trying to read from the same file another is trying to read from thus getting file pointers confused. Please note that this scenario only causes problems if the file was opened in one thread and then the file handle was passed to two others (probably not the best way to do things but . . .). Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 14:46:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEAF1065673 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-108.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-108.bluehost.com [69.89.22.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D4CF8FC1D for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 5986 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2008 14:46:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 14:46:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=eomjIZW/HuNxvkz482Fn3VFxOi+Y+G+AeLv1E9FdtFOln0b1n9cs37CQBvTV+3Tya0oNP3PrmkWxRCEIyyHt4vvRLtInh5uPm4EH7PzrCIRtFiNeExaDpWdyUoXcjG2T; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KKaAr-0002sY-7t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:46:09 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:20 -0600 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:20 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:46:11 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 02:55:22PM +0700, OutBackDingo wrote: >=20 > > How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest=20 > > measurement for approximations to zero... >=20 > I think this is a bit uncalled for, it might have been in a candid > manner, but there are alot of locations in the world using FreeBSD > quite effectively where most people live on less then a dollar a day > Id also like to note your so called US dollar isnt fairing so well. > Pretty soon might it also be worth 0.00. I do think we should try not to > insult the ecomonics of other countries=20 The US Dollar hasn't really been worth anything since 1975 at the latest. People just haven't figured that out yet. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] They always say that when life gives you lemons you should make lemonade.= =20 I always wonder -- isn't the lemonade going to suck if life doesn't give you any sugar? --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiDTlQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV3vQCgmi/LVeiSL1iO3N5eSlEpv3oa eYAAn3vS57c0KaJQp7Y9uCMbXqdXYmTP =7QiN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 14:53:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCCE106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-155.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-155.bluehost.com [67.222.39.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F78B8FC12 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 11102 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 2008 14:53:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 14:53:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=jQosmXtsh9PyzrwI7VPHgbo4Co3zDnfKR1sEM/ClUHUSiRoeqZueKzZ2jXinlQ9dUXz00Wgd9kjfuu7E8LZTeONomC027QEvNRDXsSL/yD/z3L6C5RiicUZFa/YJL+Xb; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KKaI4-00058U-JK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:53:36 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:47:48 -0600 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:47:48 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080720144748.GB12401@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <20080720134930.GA37491@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9zSXsLTf0vkW971A" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080720134930.GA37491@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:53:39 -0000 --9zSXsLTf0vkW971A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:49:30AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:18:13PM +0400, wrag@lipetsk.ru wrote: >=20 > > What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? > >=20 > > it's important for me. I must know. >=20 > Regardless of how far Off Topic some seem to want to go, > the reply by Kris is correct. FreeBSD is free. The only > cost is media to burn your own boot CD. You can download it all > freely from the www.freebsd.org website. The handbook on that > site will tell you how. Read it carefully first. =2E . . and you don't necessarily need a boot CD to install FreeBSD, so even that cost is optional. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Edmund Burke: "Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion." --9zSXsLTf0vkW971A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiDUBQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU2dwCaA9vlhRMFLjtTU1w+5CxHqGo2 maoAoPXraEEBwhcqA9DsYcIyv2F3aFfz =25yM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9zSXsLTf0vkW971A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 15:34:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C471065679 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rehsack@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52458FC0A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rehsack@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55F2E47FB81 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:06:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [87.149.231.190] (helo=waldorf.muppets.liwing.de) by smtp08.web.de with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KKaUx-0000E3-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:06:55 +0200 Message-ID: <48835479.9070607@web.de> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:06:33 +0000 From: Jens Rehsack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: rehsack@web.de X-Sender: rehsack@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/5HHae5DlbVp1rb7k61I1AU32k/mOs7nnGy7yZ /EeGXZ8dfh9OHyDQt6nf79rhXMxrNm5v9D5ePu6DcxWfTydOn3 x+U8MaIuI= Subject: lo0 not in ioctl( SIOCGIFCONF ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:34:20 -0000 Hi, I was searching why ports/net/p5-Net-Interface was not working as expected and found some reasons. Most of them I can answer by implementing some test code as attached, but now I'm wondering why em0 is shown twice and lo0 is not included. The same situation on another machine .. --- BEGIN ifconfig -a (waldorf) em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19b ether 00:15:17:10:84:6c inet 10.62.10.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.62.10.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active em1: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19b ether 00:15:17:10:84:6d media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 --- END ifconfig -a (waldorf) ./netif em0 em0 em1 --- BEGIN ifconfig -a (STINGRAY) ifconfig -a fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:a0:c9:ce:c8:64 inet 10.62.10.12 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.62.10.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fxp1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:a0:c9:ce:db:83 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33204 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 vlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:a0:c9:ce:db:83 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active vlan: 7 parent interface: fxp1 tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 87.149.231.190 --> 217.0.119.167 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 27503 --- END ifconfig -a (STINGRAY) ./netif32 fxp0 fxp0 fxp1 Why aren't lo0, vlan0 and tun0 not included? What can I do to get these entries (portable way, please). Best regards, Jens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 15:52:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373C6106566C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1938FC13 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so326564ywe.13 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.150.13 with SMTP id c13mr2660477ybo.32.1216569175933; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.233.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1454329ywl.4.2008.07.20.08.52.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:42 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080720115242.09ab80d8@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/C/ml.bgg7bak5.XXQpe6jVA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:52:57 -0000 --Sig_/C/ml.bgg7bak5.XXQpe6jVA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:40:20 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > The US Dollar hasn't really been worth anything since 1975 at the > latest. People just haven't figured that out yet. In that case, would you be so kind as to forward all of those worthless US Dollars to me. I will be more than glad to relieve you of the burden of domiciling them. Interestingly enough, the price of oil is still tied to the US Dollar. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net Small change can often be found under seat cushions. --Sig_/C/ml.bgg7bak5.XXQpe6jVA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiDX1IACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMnqdACeI8sJoXNOA3N/rKHoeXAFA8n9 qa8AoOSVfC57B4vc1Vl2pzenk5qq8doW =WVdl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/C/ml.bgg7bak5.XXQpe6jVA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 16:26:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B932F1065675 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rehsack@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECFE8FC12 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rehsack@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC817E683030 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:26:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [87.149.231.190] (helo=waldorf.muppets.liwing.de) by smtp08.web.de with esmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KKbjX-00067a-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:26:03 +0200 Message-ID: <48836705.3030805@web.de> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:25:41 +0000 From: Jens Rehsack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070806090507090805060300" Sender: rehsack@web.de X-Sender: rehsack@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19cQ4Skl+ChUdO+eqMH3u4WJlLzTtvNwarnQP/e wxnaeLGfOWeQ1fls2uvsA0yJv+Q0lf9/6SUrKkMVP5nQGpUnC4 f2lAd20dI= X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: lo0 not in ioctl( SIOCGIFCONF ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:26:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070806090507090805060300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi (resend because attachment forgotten ...), I was searching why ports/net/p5-Net-Interface was not working as expected and found some reasons. Most of them I can answer by implementing some test code as attached, but now I'm wondering why em0 is shown twice and lo0 is not included. The same situation on another machine .. --- BEGIN ifconfig -a (waldorf) em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19b ether 00:15:17:10:84:6c inet 10.62.10.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.62.10.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active em1: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19b ether 00:15:17:10:84:6d media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 --- END ifconfig -a (waldorf) ./netif em0 em0 em1 --- BEGIN ifconfig -a (STINGRAY) ifconfig -a fxp0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:a0:c9:ce:c8:64 inet 10.62.10.12 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.62.10.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fxp1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:a0:c9:ce:db:83 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33204 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 vlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:a0:c9:ce:db:83 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active vlan: 7 parent interface: fxp1 tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 87.149.231.190 --> 217.0.119.167 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 27503 --- END ifconfig -a (STINGRAY) ./netif32 fxp0 fxp0 fxp1 Why aren't lo0, vlan0 and tun0 not included? What can I do to get these entries (portable way, please). Best regards, Jens --------------070806090507090805060300-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 16:37:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446511065678 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [209.41.94.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0F78FC20 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from c-76-23-4-92.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([76.23.4.92] helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1KKbug-0006Sd-Fw; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:37:34 -0600 Message-Id: <42A635C0-BFC3-43F1-BEF9-37B206417C08@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" To: Gaye Abdoulaye Walsimou In-Reply-To: <4882E833.3060304@walsimou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:37:34 -0600 References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <4882E833.3060304@walsimou.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.23.4.92 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:37:35 -0000 On Jul 20, 2008, at 1:24 AM, Gaye Abdoulaye Walsimou wrote: > Mike Jeays a =E9crit : >> On July 19, 2008 04:21:03 pm Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> >>> On Saturday 19 July 2008 15:40:53 Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> >>>> ... or the equivalent in your >>>> local currency. Yes really :) >>>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>> ROFL to death ! >>> Sorry .. couldn't help it ... >>> You made me spit my pepsi all over my desktop ! >>> Thanks!! >>> >> >> How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest =20= >> measurement for approximations to zero... >> >> > Your comments are useless and stigmatizes people who suffers =20 > (Zimbabwe). Stigmatizes people in Zimbabwe? Huh? If anything it draws sympathy =20 for them > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 19:21:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7F41065678 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [193.33.187.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080F8FC17 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from deimos.bsd.nix (unknown [89.123.42.206]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B1F616F07 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:21:19 +0100 (BST) From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:21:25 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807202221.25123.ghirai@ghirai.com> Subject: py-qt install error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:21:30 -0000 Hello list, I'm running 7.0-RELEASE, i386, and KDE 3.5.8 from ports. Trying to install /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt gives this error: ... -- Creating pyqtconfig.py... /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qt/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtcanvas/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtnetwork/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qttable/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtxml/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtui/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtsql/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtext/Makefile /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtgl/Makefile sed: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtgl/Makefile: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt. *** Error code 1 Any ideas? Ports tree is up to date. Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 21:38:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FD91065670 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D4A8FC16 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sME81Z00T0EZKEL5AMeFcT; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:38:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.188.180.64]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sMeb1Z00G1PlroK3MMecJF; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:38:36 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NM_TZPPmulEkscs7y0kA:9 a=M8WxHkfMS0c21DTC98oA:9 a=Rw27bR7lXVSk4129cfwA:7 a=b6p_D1M7bF5dl6JGuS49WPJ_v0oA:4 a=8b0TY1xhFYQA:10 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:38:45 -0700 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Can't ping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:38:38 -0000 Can someone tell what is going on here. All of a sudden I can't ping. When I try a get this message: ping: sendto: Permission denied All internet functions seem to be working fine...just can't ping. Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 21:44:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE911065673 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76518FC12 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6KLhxmp026960; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:43:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6KLhxsl026957; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:43:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:43:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rem P Roberti In-Reply-To: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> Message-ID: <20080720234354.G26948@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't ping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:44:18 -0000 check your firewall rules On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Rem P Roberti wrote: > Can someone tell what is going on here. All of a sudden I can't ping. > When I try a get this message: > > ping: sendto: Permission denied > > All internet functions seem to be working fine...just can't ping. > > Rem > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 21:46:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45285106568A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56CA8FC0A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so644305tid.3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-face:x-attribution:x-os-kernel :x-os-version:x-os-architecture:x-uptime:x-url:x-mail-morse :x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-openpgp-id:face:organization:user-agent :sender; bh=DLKQaWa+GP+ZvWaWR3pg3em/nWHcAFqiAiBsUvCgjuQ=; b=YPOJ98SGWy/jMQ/PGEmUbSIoXlfO1u2RztTp6c5Vp1kwZ0c3wtohx8nnX3PpW/mV5q /tZGe52HHrYYg1m7OPk+mBQoWi2uuSYHWO1aMm06lBIhC1kUN6LEq8qsqmWAmy1gVS/n okxpoLo1iRUR1bnt17QTyVFrzMMCsr0gkgGfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-face :x-attribution:x-os-kernel:x-os-version:x-os-architecture:x-uptime :x-url:x-mail-morse:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-openpgp-id:face :organization:user-agent:sender; b=TOhECs3q/bdkkKshQr7ors8R9pXsgZXATmH/9gsI+tyhCpyTrdgH4RjfNboLYiDv7U xIx3t/6ti2YzRvS0hjZdzJEpzUdH00gRM+4Sr378JIKLXlOqMpOBH4pgnSQCJbGx+viV 8zXN/ll1hTKIAxnBdnqpjSCNjkNxlni4aNUvM= Received: by 10.110.41.17 with SMTP id o17mr2904619tio.18.1216590366227; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.lf ( [122.162.55.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm8712580tib.9.2008.07.20.14.46.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:17:00 +0530 From: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksg==?= Ashish Shukla To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080720214700.GA14095@chateau.d.lf> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> X-Face: "\:nMpJ)EA!j>2nEu-[(+&o:N+CtL^AS\,Jv*LO5qBr#W2.\=d Subject: Re: Can't ping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:46:08 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net>, Rem P Roberti wrote: >Can someone tell what is going on here. All of a sudden I can't ping. >When I try a get this message: > >ping: sendto: Permission denied > >All internet functions seem to be working fine...just can't ping. Firewall blocking ICMP protocol. HTH --=20 =C2=B7-- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7--- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2= =B7- =C2=B7- =C2=B7--=C2=B7-=C2=B7 --=C2=B7 -- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7-= =C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7-=C2=B7-=C2=B7- -=C2=B7-=C2=B7 --- -- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiDslQACgkQHy+EEHYuXnTriQCgzHJjYNXwP079LgYCBvHl9G75 890AoOB6Abcq2QjMDQBJ9L9yURE5NN2B =yt1F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 21:58:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E349B106566B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CAA8FC18 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4CF5C33 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:58:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id OUATTmsc7Qc3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:58:46 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20080720215846.GI13724@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> Subject: Re: Can't ping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:58:50 -0000 Rem P Roberti wrote: [...] > ping: sendto: Permission denied Did you (or another admin) change firewall rules? Also, please do a simple google or list archive search before posting to the list. Searching for the error you paste above results in several links that might've helped you troubleshoot this problem. [...] -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 20 23:45:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC835106564A for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34968FC15 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 25181 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 23:45:49 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Jul 2008 23:45:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4883CE31.5030605@telenix.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:45:53 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> <20080720234354.G26948@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080720234354.G26948@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Rem P Roberti , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't ping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:45:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > check your firewall rules > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Rem P Roberti wrote: > >> Can someone tell what is going on here. All of a sudden I can't ping. >> When I try a get this message: >> >> ping: sendto: Permission denied >> >> All internet functions seem to be working fine...just can't ping. You folks are all probably dead on, exactly right, but I recall once, about 18 months ago, that my permissions on one machine went haywire, and it lost the setuid bit in the permissions. On some machines, this'd sure enough hurt things. Maybe this here (below) could help? TCSH-april:chuck:~:#103-15:18>ls -l `which ping` - -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 23868 Jun 15 21:09 /sbin/ping* If those good suggestions regarding the firewall turn out not to work, maybe this could be experimented with? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiDzjEACgkQz62J6PPcoOmSAgCfTcM1RMXpEu3jKL3Nrov2zY4F neIAn0YLUss8E1joGGXQvgW2+MivEXKn =C+x+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 03:07:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44B81065672 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suparhippie07@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A568FC18 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suparhippie07@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so687852tid.3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-language:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PFXmFvBf7MfaX/PzBalPSmloqF29yiuJBrHVDg2ytW8=; b=luljyAFbrCxxLPwKIJvCpbQ8ZsVoBcla6mlQzTQxjmddfryNxzpCiChEq8xHtApBnb PLvRcv2HaOfJXZ18twZYzirKHfNPoYB7HYfDGIEEWDb8YCUGYPcNe2SUDPNaDu9y8npV ydiRu24uEkm/S6239t4/WtCWb3mQYPOHUT9iY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version :content-language:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tyaN53+tYpHF5uQZ40nku+GuQ2M5hkup5SiZ6fDZjaBgxEkK8HKCO9kEHbcTufGwjn aUtq9Iv2sRBXN7Tm5SsTJr0hqKbLk4Z9tBbyK7DBIEci3KoKkYSfna1xPRO9GvQHSb0G PWfMmGaYroPI75RtrKt4dNKv9rcFUshvtQMPc= Received: by 10.110.95.15 with SMTP id s15mr3117567tib.45.1216607951672; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?117.97.12.154? ( [117.97.12.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm9149101tif.7.2008.07.20.19.39.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:39:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Madana" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:08:26 +0530 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: i-default Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: FreeBSD source code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Madana List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:07:15 -0000 Dear sir/madam...... I am a student studying computers and would like to build unix operating = systems later on so i was browsing through your website for the source code = but could not find it so it would be very very nice if you could give me = the url of the page where i can get the source code...... Yours, KMB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 03:18:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35C11065677 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24638FC13 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so622559wah.3 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:18:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Oym/qnwQCOBGdHv9tKLGNKM88RyrWFEf0FtqUsl/3JQ=; b=Iyr9WEtsY/ki/5LJZEA0RwOWRGO9p5GFhZ+abU7FNX323B5QuAGBAROrhBAHS10nuF z5T/TZFnyuHx59y2fz1pOvgQTfZbUNC1rEvTM551GMw7eFvRFElRt1hpFoR7QwBRK/9b 9RmljbraykGWaZHndnHaTZsv0pagza1+CJWB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oMhLeNgbuUtC4cvjZ6p77uMcjUT5uBK8nEPaiEGlWccsu2M3LC7/ws7WYNqfGGNSJ3 kSuYXke1PPMj+idL0haxjTJGUkB+8pMcCv5gXEiEwe/k/Wcp7i2eEYRgIY7vCjMVFS9V QQ/pcaIh88My5ad6lKCWqUY11Qf7a/JAsZFQA= Received: by 10.114.158.1 with SMTP id g1mr2302449wae.203.1216610328131; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.254.11 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8d23ec860807202018l791430eflbfe56f22529f6e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:18:48 -0400 From: Schiz0 To: Madana In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD source code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:18:48 -0000 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Madana wrote: > Dear sir/madam...... > I am a student studying computers and would like to build unix operating systems later on so i was browsing through your website for the source code but could not find it so it would be very very nice if you could give me the url of the page where i can get the source code...... > Yours, > KMB > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/anoncvs.html ...or you might find the CVSweb interface here handy: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 03:32:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA1E1065673 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from mx1.ctgameinfo.com (eureka.ctgameinfo.com [67.228.20.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5188FC21 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from chris-st-denis-powerbook59.local (S0106000f660223be.vc.shawcable.net [24.83.103.120]) by mx1.ctgameinfo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73C356463; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4883FFC0.9080002@smartt.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:17:20 -0700 From: Chris St Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Madana References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7141/Fri May 16 18:12:19 2008 on eureka.ctgameinfo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD source code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:32:31 -0000 Madana wrote: > Dear sir/madam...... > I am a student studying computers and would like to build unix operating systems later on so i was browsing through your website for the source code but could not find it so it would be very very nice if you could give me the url of the page where i can get the source code...... > Yours, > KMB > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Source code is available on the CD's which you can download the ISO images of on the mirror network. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html It's also available via CVS from one of the CVS mirrors: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 03:54:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6251065674 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A333A8FC0A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgJAHOlg0h5LQ2Y/2dsb2JhbABLgQ+rMA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,220,1215354600"; d="scan'208";a="154002638" Received: from ppp121-45-13-152.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.13.152]) by ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 21 Jul 2008 13:24:31 +0930 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Madana Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:24:30 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807211324.30703.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD source code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:54:35 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:08 pm, Madana wrote: > Dear sir/madam...... > I am a student studying computers and would like to build unix > operating systems later on so i was browsing through your > website for the source code but could not find it so it would > be very very nice if you could give me the url of the page > where i can get the source code...... Yours, > KMB > Simplest is to do an installation say from CDs written from ISOs. Options during installation install full source code for kernel and basic utilities. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.0/* The same sources are available separately as: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.0-RELEASE/src/* install.sh in the same directory will unpack these. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 05:59:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6CD1065677 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4286E8FC14 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so395744ywe.13 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WoauSwOnN4zcmckLo74lo+jb/AJ9TQwC3d5+csrOFnE=; b=U7UwmbsyZB8x40TOZNPiCZQaoEgTQGZXy5a8thMiC2dt38T2PwOkHfIUMY1DMzhI6V mdcgy9EcjXVqqb4HLOLVVk+o7IRZuqW3hS3+MSTzYwlw2NGwnhI2G2t0cbZSv8Aa9F9S aCffl1eQYR0c0IV77rze8gEuENLVNRy1cD+bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=tZM6ray/MEAEQ38ROAK496IIZUB8XVdfBtRHvnzv/JhpY4msqTWosJx2u88hsF4OFv r1WwKr8d9l43BX7VkOEVHYTGZbhJj0c72Gd3XGT9RJ//w9uPeU/3qWWFGguZYqyilx2Z oggu+ScbowIFmQhvCfVtBarnF8Rjc8/U2GgUQ= Received: by 10.150.12.10 with SMTP id 10mr3337466ybl.204.1216619976616; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400807202259h2686b034l32e130e74b5436fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:59:36 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <42A635C0-BFC3-43F1-BEF9-37B206417C08@shire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <4882E833.3060304@walsimou.com> <42A635C0-BFC3-43F1-BEF9-37B206417C08@shire.net> Cc: Gaye Abdoulaye Walsimou , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:59:37 -0000 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: [snip] >> Your comments are useless and stigmatizes people who suffers (Zimbabwe). > > Stigmatizes people in Zimbabwe? Huh? If anything it draws sympathy for them Two or so years ago, I used to tell a fellow from ZM whom I got to know online, that they (Zimbabweans) needed to topple Mugabe (yes, I mean it) as he was messing them up big style. The inflation rate then was not as bad as it is now, besides the fact that the citizens are limited to what amount they can withdraw from their bank accounts. I feel Zimbabwe is worth talking about in every forum, as it's a classic case about how humans can be subjected to suffering by a despot! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 06:22:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B88106564A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from mailgate.neusoft.com (mailgate.neusoft.com [210.83.25.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96D38FC28 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from smtp.neusoft.com ([202.107.117.28]) by mailgate.neusoft.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m6L6LtDo008297 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:21:55 +0800 Received: from neusofteaf5839 ([192.168.131.63]) by smtp.neusoft.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPPSA id <0K4C0050XF0LQT@smtp.neusoft.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:21:57 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:22:02 +0800 From: EdwardKing To: FreeBSD Message-id: <00d501c8eafa$174daff0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Neusoft-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Neusoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to change process status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:22:28 -0000 I make a process running in background,like follows: $./a.out & I want to know how to change a.out from backgound to foreground and how to stop it? Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may be confidential and/or privileged of Neusoft Group Ltd., its subsidiaries and/or its affiliates. If any reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, unauthorized use, forwarding, printing, storing, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. 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Thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 06:32:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC4F106564A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09088FC14 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so806995fgb.35 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:32:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wiRzqNhOjQU46bOdMurSGOJc40I9kEjz7YwIl+Cn5U0=; b=PBLMdtpgo7q9nlEFm7X37hiLdZ3k1bg9mqELNPnkbjFYEtcCslJmu3nJ4X5H8aWvuK zlo08smaZmeoiKuk2mCdUdd8XKZ3V1QpI1NCDbJvEpx1c7y34QTSH27JhL80JLW0KjiV fdudbJ/Kx8jwiswms8SIqxPXUZC3560j1CNbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=SC1Kw0ZomBgVI+5cP9MQU23uJCMaLb9TvliB4hjLcN0fBuK7w6qd6wiJgxju0y4dI8 R5xwpC8A02gUZ5KjnobbogaHw+DqgHPRxIPEk75rXhpc0PxV73gHnEM7yM/9uNzgpkHO ZOvdrBOjfdZm19XoX5KOnzo3BHGPOrifSV2NI= Received: by 10.86.54.3 with SMTP id c3mr4350753fga.55.1216621920111; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.3.17 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1bd550a00807202332g69a71b66j8c985dc5f61e22e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:32:00 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: EdwardKing In-Reply-To: <00d501c8eafa$174daff0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00d501c8eafa$174daff0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: How to change process status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:32:02 -0000 On 7/21/08, EdwardKing wrote: > I make a process running in background,like follows: > $./a.out & > > I want to know how to change a.out from backgound to foreground and how to stop it? with "fg" and the number the shell returns after you placed the process in the background. Let's say: $./a.out & [1] 27537 fg %1 -- Here the shell will bring the process to the foreground -- Now you can stop it with Ctrl-c for instance. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 08:20:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECB0106564A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CE28FC12 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.113] (adsl-19-213-77.bna.bellsouth.net[68.19.213.77]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20080721082055H06009pvbpe>; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:20:58 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.19.213.77] From: Paul Procacci To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080721092322.Q2292@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080721092322.Q2292@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: <1216628459.14142.0.camel@pprocacci-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Madana , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD source code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pprocacci@datapipe.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:20:59 -0000 On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 09:23 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Dear sir/madam...... > > I am a student studying computers and would like to build unix operating systems later on so i was browsing through your website for the source code but could not find it so it would be very very nice if you could give me the url of the page where i can get the source code...... > > you should first study how to read webpages. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" That sir was well played. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 08:26:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78DD1065671 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torben.jakobsen@dk.ibm.com) Received: from mtagate8.uk.ibm.com (mtagate8.uk.ibm.com [195.212.29.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315418FC18 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torben.jakobsen@dk.ibm.com) Received: from d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.185]) by mtagate8.uk.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6L8ABEP438278 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:10:11 GMT Received: from d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.37.228]) by d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.0) with ESMTP id m6L8ABi91822874 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:10:11 +0100 Received: from d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m6L8ABqm004652 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:10:11 +0100 Received: from d06ml724.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06ml724.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.85]) by d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m6L8AA8B004604 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:10:10 +0100 From: Torben Jakobsen To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:10:09 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D06ML724/06/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2FP2HF322 | September 26, 2007) at 21/07/2008 10:10:10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: AUTO: Torben Jakobsen is out of the office. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 09:20:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A93F1065679 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsmtkk@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B97B8FC1E for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsmtkk@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so773608tid.3 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:20:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=YLuuEsOroQNG1/5+q3YS+KlizCeEmJe68EDeR35iAfo=; b=jSXzZ+osR6afirS8FEwQQD+3yfKqArwuxt0NJtSDE7zAyFCGAtZr9/jk+013DULAAq eLqhXvq+Cl4N20KmJp2ySL1HKvB56rEQMJsdtfUMuA9SsxLPrNF0wBw85MReZi3KAHlL j0uUSzB6YhpTlfCuzQpMgzJc5X8D88nUN5/UI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WvR4lncWk6qbo0tt2rRhECusGE8wKE+DUtg+y3gRnI07rIUHZTKX/B2v4ipjNf2eF3 RRBc2Z8n8aLLMAGs001dQNvYzIKQdW2P+Ba8cBbYDq0Xho3GSw2u3f5H8L5lFdY2PDII mAl+CuBjd5U8tjeS8EB3rdNUXaKC9o6qyhFSY= Received: by 10.110.41.17 with SMTP id o17mr3568315tio.5.1216632021726; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.86.15 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:20:21 +0900 From: Hashimoto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: config as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:20:23 -0000 Can I configure FreeBSD as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel"? Let me explain it in detail. Both hostA and hostB have global IPv4 address. And hostA has global IPv6 address. I have installed FreeBSD 7.0 on both hostA and hostB. Then, I want to config "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" from hostB to hostA. Is it possible? -- Hashimoto Kouki hsmtkk@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 09:25:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359FB106564A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E444C8FC1E for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so851028wfg.7 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:25:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=HDXhA/S1XELpARjRBUH2MoWWGNDzmlSDiDGW8w3NafA=; b=jh/OoN26d9UiMSWSoJderx5rPinLf3mmEaSR+yh8gdqGbnIY7u6ytTUUgaxac4KHV6 R4I7qz2NyhjpyG4/PArglCccOp7CMB45iAehgovnjuS6GRW3/97VolgcLNFeid1RHPGb M4R1Mr509ULbYD7lt+gZOfmymXR3oMvxsQt7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=rjql2h0QHSKoFyT7vRVB8YbwNh4KZ9HoTRoXHW0QxDv3EjFEhr/jAPIBoUHGG1CDw7 pAl0URor1zZj2FqIzn+rfYF8FvUi9/sRshC+XNhf/6n6mTsIMVEn6T5ZH1N9US1EzVri D3M6EZGS5aJdI62PqLHu089ymyTtr7q+pG1CM= Received: by 10.142.212.19 with SMTP id k19mr1236629wfg.142.1216632356407; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.52.1 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62b856460807210225l4fe1f807vb8caf90cd8345682@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:25:56 +0200 From: "Michael Grant" Sender: michael.grant@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae8c7cd9d03cf1c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: panics and crash dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:25:57 -0000 I'm having problems getting a crash dump on my panics. A bog standard crash dump on panic to swap hangs during the dump. Kris recommended trying minidump or DDB. With minidump enabled, it hangs, doesn't even try to dump on panic. So on to try DDB, have these lines in my kernel: makeoptions DEBUG=-g options KDB options DDB and now this kernel, when it boots, it doesn't see all of the sata drives. I have 2 sata controllers, one on the motherboard, the other a pci card (a supermicro controller). The only difference in the kernel conf files are the latter 2 options lines above being added. I did not see any errors while compiling this kernel. The same kernel modules are in kernel.old as in kernel, however, these are the ones that differ: [#1022] diff -r kernel kernel.ddb.broken Files kernel/bktr.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/bktr.ko differ Files kernel/geom_eli.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/geom_eli.ko differ Files kernel/hptrr.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/hptrr.ko differ Files kernel/ibcs2.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/ibcs2.ko differ Files kernel/if_ed.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/if_ed.ko differ Files kernel/if_oltr.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/if_oltr.ko differ Files kernel/kernel and kernel.ddb.broken/kernel differ Files kernel/linker.hints and kernel.ddb.broken/linker.hints differ Files kernel/logo_saver.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/logo_saver.ko differ Files kernel/mem.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/mem.ko differ Files kernel/rr232x.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/rr232x.ko differ Files kernel/udf.ko and kernel.ddb.broken/udf.ko differ When my DDB kernel boots, not only does it not see the sata drives, upon a quick reboot, it panics and does not throw me into the debugger. And then, to my surprise, it does a crash dump into swap. But when the machine reboots, it can't read it! I get: Checking for core dump on /dev/ad1s1b... savecore: error reading last dump header at offset 10005032448 in /dev/ad1s1b: Input/output error savecore: no dumps found Jul 21 04:45:17 charm savecore: error reading last dump header at offset 10005032448 in /dev/ad1s1b: Input/output error Here is the screen output of the crash of the kernel with DDB which did not recognize the second sata controller: charm# reboot Jul 21 04:32:16 charm reboot: rebooted by root Jul 21 04:32:16 charm syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop... Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...7 0 0 done All buffers synced. Uptime: 3m46s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96fc48 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96fc48 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 3m46s Dumping 3327 MB (2 chunks) chunk 0: 1MB (151 pages) ... ok chunk 1: 3327MB (851568 pages) 3311 3295 3279 3263 3247 3231 3215 3199 3183 3167 3151 3135 3119 3103 3087 3071 3055 3039 3023 3007 2991 2975 2959 2943 2927 2911 2895 2879 2863 2847 2831 2815 2799 2783 2767 2751 2735 2719 2703 2687 2671 2655 2639 2623 2607 2591 2575 2559 2543 2527 2511 2495 2479 2463 2447 2431 2415 2399 2383 2367 2351 2335 2319 2303 2287 2271 2255 2239 2223 2207 2191 2175 2159 2143 2127 2111 2095 2079 2063 2047 2031 2015 1999 1983 1967 1951 1935 1919 1903 1887 1871 1855 1839 1823 1807 1791 1775 1759 1743 1727 1711 1695 1679 1663 1647 1631 1615 1599 1583 1567 1551 1535 1519 1503 1487 1471 1455 1439 1423 1407 1391 1375 1359 1343 1327 1311 1295 1279 1263 1247 1231 1215 1199 1183 1167 1151 1135 1119 1103 1087 1071 1055 1039 1023 1007 991 975 959 943 927 911 895 879 863 847 831 815 799 783 767 751 735 719 703 687 671 655 639 623 607 591 575 559 543 527 511 495 479 463 447 431 415 399 383 367 351 335 319 303 287 271 255 239 223 207 191 175 159 143 127 111 95 79 63 47 31 15 ... ok Dump complete Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96fad8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96fad8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m40s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f968 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f968 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m40s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f7f8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f7f8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m41s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f688 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f688 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m41s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f518 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f518 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m42s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f3a8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f3a8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m42s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f238 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f238 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m43s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96f0c8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96f0c8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m44s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96ef58 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96ef58 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m44s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96ede8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96ede8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m45s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96ec78 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96ec78 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m45s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96eb08 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96eb08 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m46s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96e998 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96e998 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m46s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96e828 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96e828 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m47s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96e6b8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96e6b8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m47s Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xff96e548 frame pointer = 0x28:0xff96e548 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s Fatal double fault: eip = 0xc09157f0 esp = 0xff96e000 ebp = 0xff96e004 panic: double fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa43c0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa43c0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = nested task, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa4278 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa4278 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa4130 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa4130 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3fe8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3fe8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3ea0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3ea0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3d58 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3d58 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3c10 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3c10 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3ac8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3ac8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3980 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3980 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3838 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3838 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa36f0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa36f0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa35a8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa35a8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3460 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3460 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3318 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3318 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa31d0 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa31d0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 5m48s kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08da707 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3088 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc0aa3088 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 2151 (reboot) Here is the kernel configuration file: machine i386 #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options KDB options DDB options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options IPFILTER # IPFilter support options IPFILTER_LOG # IPFilter logging support options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK # Block all packets by default options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options DUMMYNET device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. device eisa device pci # System Management Bus support (for healthd and Intel6300ESB) device smbus device smb device ichsmb device iicbus device iicbb device intpm # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters device ncv # NCR 53C500 device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x / Marvell device iir # Intel Integrated RAID device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this for the pcvt (VT220 compatible) console driver #device vt #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100(precedence over 'lnc') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ device ep # Etherlink III based cards device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards device ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. device lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # ISA devices that use the old ISA shims #device le # Wireless NIC cards device wlan # 802.11 support device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. device awi # BayStack 660 and others device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet #device vlan # 802.1Q #pseudo-device vlan 1 # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 09:59:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909821065676 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1F48FC15 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6L9vRt0002783; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6L9vQLq002780; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Hashimoto In-Reply-To: <6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080721115642.X2779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: config as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:59:09 -0000 > > Let me explain it in detail. > Both hostA and hostB have global IPv4 address. > And hostA has global IPv6 address. > I have installed FreeBSD 7.0 on both hostA and hostB. > Then, I want to config "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" from hostB to hostA. > Is it possible? > i don't understand why you need single directional tunnel. you need bidirectional transmission of IP packets. man gif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 10:20:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9F106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B0E8FC15 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (27.6.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.6.27]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 83FEC633655; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:17:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane-lamaiziere-net.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A576D570EA0; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:20:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:20:41 +0200 From: Patrick =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Lamaizi=E8re?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721122041.610065bd@baby-jane-lamaiziere-net.local> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-apple-darwin9.3.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Madana Subject: Re: FreeBSD source code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:46 -0000 Le Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:08:26 +0530, "Madana" a crit : > Dear sir/madam...... > I am a student studying computers and would like to build unix > operating systems later on so i was browsing through your website for > the source code but could not find it so it would be very very nice > if you could give me the url of the page where i can get the source > code...... If you want to explore the source code of the kernel, the 'FreeBSD Kernel Cross-Reference' web site is very useful. http://fxr.watson.org/ Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 10:21:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6FD1065681 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@zog.net) Received: from taklamakan.88.net (taklamakan.88.net [80.68.94.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16E58FC20 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@zog.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taklamakan.88.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE69C8011 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:16 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at 88.net Received: from taklamakan.88.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (taklamakan.88.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id crV0BfFstuNn for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:10 +0100 (BST) Received: by taklamakan.88.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id 7E72FC800B; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from 82.120.108.188 (SquirrelMail authenticated user john) by www.88.net with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <2385.82.120.108.188.1216634229.squirrel@www.88.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:09 +0200 (CEST) From: "John Morgan Salomon" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Recover Lost Superblocks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: john@zog.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:21:57 -0000 Hi there, bit of a tricky question: I have an Adaptec RAID-5 array which decided to puke recently -- the controller seems OK, as do the drives, but something appears to have gone wrong and I had to rebuild the array. Long story short, my array went astray and I lost partition and filesystem info for 1.6TB of data. Before you ask, this was the backup server. My primary box had decided to die shortly before. I had no backup backup server. Murphy strikes. The array was formerly my boot device. Layout before the crash was: /dev/aac0s1a / /dev/aac0s1b swap /dev/aac0s1d /usr /dev/aac0s1e /data Using a combination of sleuthkit, autopsy, a bootable IDE drive that I installed, gpart and a bunch of other tools, I was able to recover the partition. I am also able to mount / from the bootable drive (as /dev/aac0s1c) and access everything on it. I do not remember the filesystem layout (sizes, start/end sectors, etc.) Can someone recommend a way to manually scan the entire partition (either aacd0, aacd0s1 or aacd0s1c) for formerly present filesystems? I am 99% sure that all the data is still present, and if I reinstall the superblocks I'll be able to boot the array, mount the filesystems and get the data off before I continue. I don't know whether I've missed any gpart options (I have the impression it only scans for lost partitions, not ufs filesystem signatures.) Any help, tips or pointers would be tremendously appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 10:22:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341D21065677 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E178FC12 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LAMADZ037621; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:22:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m6LAMADZ037621 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1216635736; bh=aOH1rX6YTUxWGE zrW6I/q/1tozRc5R/v9+xv/Bd5vE4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48846345.4060601@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,=2 021=20Jul=202008=2011:21:57=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Hashimoto=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@fre ebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20config=20as=20an=20exit=20of=20"IPv6=20ov er=20IPv4=20tunnel"|References:=20<6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0 185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<6bae2c430807210220r467 fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6 |Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A =20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-- ----------enig5C890658DB76CD6DF7694714"; b=k86tlHUSF/00Wd9olZyEIwhs ZXScu7SzVxniTNYbctzXjfCi4QJATKw/UHti0/aCcHpxX0lT3PADf7WR4JEtfIFt42E yUQlOs3T93Z5oWu+Y5Xe4b8y6yAjSPalIDGnLv6n5KlfR99gS+3uLnwvL+mpefjAnDU lvaC9GEAwBEhY= Message-ID: <48846345.4060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:21:57 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hashimoto References: <6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5C890658DB76CD6DF7694714" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:22:16 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/7765/Mon Jul 21 05:29:55 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: config as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:22:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5C890658DB76CD6DF7694714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hashimoto wrote: > Can I configure FreeBSD as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel"? >=20 > Let me explain it in detail. > Both hostA and hostB have global IPv4 address. > And hostA has global IPv6 address. > I have installed FreeBSD 7.0 on both hostA and hostB. > Then, I want to config "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" from hostB to hostA. > Is it possible? >=20 Yes, absolutely. I have a similar configuration for my IPv6 connectivity= =2E There are some alternatives (stf(4), faith(4)), but this is based I what I have. This is mostly in terms of what you'ld add to /etc/rc.conf on HostB -- HostA will be similar, but addresses will be reversed in the obvious places. i) Create a gif(4) interface and configure the endpoints: gif_interfaces=3D"gif0" gifconfig_gif0=3D"hostB-ipv4-number hostA-ipv4-number" ii) Enable IPv6 on HostB -- I'm assuming you've assigned a /64=20 net block to HostB (perhaps a tad excessive, but pretty much the default for an allocation of a chunk of IPv6 address space.) Adjust the prefixlen to suit. ipv6_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"-interface gif0" ipv6_default_interface=3D"gif0" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 prefixlen 64" iii) Settings on HostA are slightly different -- HostA has to be a router, and it only wants to route the HostB block via the gif(4) tunnel: ipv6_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"hostA-ipv6-gateway-address" ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" ipv6_static_routes=3D"hostB" ipv6_route_hostB=3D"1234:5678:9abc:def0:: -prefixlen 64 -interface gif0" iv) That should be everything you need to get point to point connectivity= =20 working. Note: it's pretty easy now to make HostB an IPv6 router and assign IPv6 addresses to anything on the same local subnet as HostB. In fact, you can use rtadvd(8) on HostB to make that automatic: ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"auto" ipv6_prefix_em0=3D"1234:5678:9acb:def0" rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" rtadvd_interfaces=3D"em0" Then just run rtsol(8) on all the other machines that will use HostB as their IPv6 gateway. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig5C890658DB76CD6DF7694714 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkiEY1IACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx45wCfXD7ICwkYjcELvE/pbsHwUVyH cOMAnRmg5HuQ5T++aEqRNd446ydWotdg =/A3P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5C890658DB76CD6DF7694714-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 10:52:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C37106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2218FC13 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-100-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.100.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715B650AA4; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m6LAqPHw001865; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080721125225.956c3aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2385.82.120.108.188.1216634229.squirrel@www.88.net> References: <2385.82.120.108.188.1216634229.squirrel@www.88.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: john@zog.net Subject: Re: Recover Lost Superblocks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:52:28 -0000 Hi! On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:09 +0200 (CEST), "John Morgan Salomon" wrote: > Before you ask, this was the backup server. My primary box had decided to > die shortly before. I had no backup backup server. Murphy strikes. I completely do understand you, I'm suffering from a similar problem at the moment, but much worse than yours... Buy tape drives! Buy tape drives! Buy tape drives! :-) > Can someone recommend a way to manually scan the entire partition (either > aacd0, aacd0s1 or aacd0s1c) for formerly present filesystems? I am 99% > sure that all the data is still present, and if I reinstall the > superblocks I'll be able to boot the array, mount the filesystems and get > the data off before I continue. I don't know whether I've missed any > gpart options (I have the impression it only scans for lost partitions, > not ufs filesystem signatures.) As far as I know - NB that I'm just starting to learn more about UFS, shame on me that I'll do this just as every piece of data is gone - there are more than one superblock present. According to "man fsck_ufs", this could be a starting point: -b Use the block specified immediately after the flag as the super block for the file system. An alternate super block is usually located at block 32 for UFS1, and block 160 for UFS2. This applies if just the first superblock is gone. Before you start experimenting, maybe it's a good idea to dd the data out of the disks and run fsck on the images? I'm not sure... > Any help, tips or pointers would be tremendously appreciated. Hope you're lucky. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 11:04:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38712106566C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@zog.net) Received: from taklamakan.88.net (taklamakan.88.net [80.68.94.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59818FC18 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@zog.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taklamakan.88.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0768C8011; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:04:08 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at 88.net Received: from taklamakan.88.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (taklamakan.88.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zwM1KsrTdQaT; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:04:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ASt-Lambert-151-1-14-188.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.108.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by taklamakan.88.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE28C800B; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:04:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <1CD17FFA-7CE2-4C6A-A578-BA9542E4A9AE@zog.net> From: John Morgan Salomon To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20080721125225.956c3aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:04:00 +0200 References: <2385.82.120.108.188.1216634229.squirrel@www.88.net> <20080721125225.956c3aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recover Lost Superblocks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:04:10 -0000 Wow, a sympathetic ear, was expecting far more scorn than that :-) I am currently running TestDisk, which at least _appears_ to be finding something filesystem-like (at least it's listed a few "empty" "somethings" that look somehow reasonable, size-wise.) Cross your fingers. Gpart and TestDisk are entirely passive, i.e. don't touch data on the disks. My plan, if this works out, is to buy a secondary backup consisting of a RAID 1+0 NAS. I don't have anything big enough to back up everything to. I tried pretty much everything with fsck_ufs. Like I said, though, I am able to mount the entire partition from the bootable IDE drive. I see /, /etc/, /dev/ and all that, but since the "rescue" OS can't see any additional superblocks, it has no devices for the other filesystems. I am not sufficiently well versed in UFS to understand how an entire partition can be mounted as a filesystem if that partition originally had multiple filesystems on it. I'm a bit wary of playing more with fsck until all else has failed. :-) What also weirds me out is that FreeBSD constantly bitches about the partition being larger than the physical disk (which it decidedly isn't.) I've tried setting geometry in fdisk any which way (including using the RAID controller's provided values), and as I said, the thing mounts the root partition of the array just fine. I'm considering an exorcist. Best, -John On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Polytropon wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:09 +0200 (CEST), "John Morgan Salomon" > wrote: >> Before you ask, this was the backup server. My primary box had >> decided to >> die shortly before. I had no backup backup server. Murphy strikes. > > I completely do understand you, I'm suffering from a similar problem > at the moment, but much worse than yours... > > Buy tape drives! Buy tape drives! Buy tape drives! :-) > > >> Can someone recommend a way to manually scan the entire partition >> (either >> aacd0, aacd0s1 or aacd0s1c) for formerly present filesystems? I am >> 99% >> sure that all the data is still present, and if I reinstall the >> superblocks I'll be able to boot the array, mount the filesystems >> and get >> the data off before I continue. I don't know whether I've missed any >> gpart options (I have the impression it only scans for lost >> partitions, >> not ufs filesystem signatures.) > > As far as I know - NB that I'm just starting to learn more about UFS, > shame on me that I'll do this just as every piece of data is gone - > there are more than one superblock present. According to "man > fsck_ufs", > this could be a starting point: > > -b Use the block specified immediately after the flag as > the super > block for the file system. An alternate super block is > usually > located at block 32 for UFS1, and block 160 for UFS2. > > This applies if just the first superblock is gone. > > Before you start experimenting, maybe it's a good idea to dd the > data out of the disks and run fsck on the images? I'm not sure... > > >> Any help, tips or pointers would be tremendously appreciated. > > Hope you're lucky. > > > > > > > -- > Polytropon >> From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 11:28:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3D81065670 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8928FC24 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so424517ywe.13 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.107.8 with SMTP id j8mr3660016ybm.163.1216639710519; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.233.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm5141818yxm.0.2008.07.21.04.28.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:28:15 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721072815.792bac31@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/AB9wzZzZ+c5mYCOP1jExR9B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: AUTO: Torben Jakobsen is out of the office. (returning 2008-08-10) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:28:31 -0000 --Sig_/AB9wzZzZ+c5mYCOP1jExR9B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:10:09 +0200 Torben Jakobsen wrote: [...] > This is the only notification you will receive while this person is > away. Wonderful. Now if the OP had learned how to program his "vacation program / auto responder" correctly, I would not have even received this useless notice. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net If *I* had a hammer, there'd be no more folk singers. --Sig_/AB9wzZzZ+c5mYCOP1jExR9B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiEctcACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMlGRwCgvSb78JDwzXDyM/UQZVTY6XCY o4YAoICqLd5Ke5cHnRIjGU+asUS5E6Q8 =PNm3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/AB9wzZzZ+c5mYCOP1jExR9B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 11:40:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC635106567F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162118FC0C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LBQ5q9033533 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6LBQ4oi033532 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:03 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807211426.03832.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Subject: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:40:07 -0000 Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, which shows a very big value in COU temperature: doroot@panix:~# mbmon -c 1 Temp.= 42.0, 201.0, 39.0; Rot.= 3245, 0, 0 Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.31, -11.74, -1.66 Also, healthdc shows: localhost 186.0 0.0 0.0 5314 17307 0000 1.49 2.49 1.62 5.42 0.00 -10.84 0.00 and lmmon -i shows: Motherboard Temp Voltages 186C / 366F / 459K Vcore1: +1.469V Vcore2: +1.766V Fan Speeds + 3.3V: +3.219V + 5.0V: +4.932V 1: 10629rpm +12.0V: +11.750V 2: 33750rpm -12.0V: -13.188V 3: 16071rpm - 5.0V: -1.800V So i dont have any idea how to assess the real CPU temperature. I am thinking of tuning down the BIOS to fail-safe settings, just as an extra measure. Apart from that, i have no clue how to solve the random crashes/segfaults problem. I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from the room. Any hints would be welcome. P.S. Please include me in the reply, i am not subscribed to -questions. -- Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 11:41:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F7B1065672 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC8A8FC26 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB001EE8E6 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.055 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.055 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-1.613, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169, WEIRD_PORT=1.499] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jnKU4eLXfRTS for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E651EE969 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <488475C4.8090501@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:52 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Trying to build Squid 3.0.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:41:01 -0000 When I try to build Squid it stops with the following: --------------------------------------------------------------------- mv -f "$depbase.Tpo" "$depbase.Po"; else rm -f "$depbase.Tpo"; exit 1; fi neighbors.cc: In function 'void dump_peer_options(StoreEntry*, peer*)': neighbors.cc:1612: error: 'struct _peer::' has no member named 'carp' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Any clues on how I get around this. I tried with squid-3.0.7 last week and it went well, now squid is uppgraded to 3.0.8 and it wont build on the same machine! Thanks /Leslie http://www.spreadbsd.org/aff/162/3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 12:09:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1881106567B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332228FC0C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LC9MdQ033669; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:09:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6LC9LY9033668; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:09:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: Kemian Dang Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:09:21 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200807211426.03832.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <48847A0D.6070907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <48847A0D.6070907@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807211509.21516.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:09:25 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Monday 21 July 2008 14:59:09 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Kemian = Dang =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days (room= temp about 30 deg C). > > I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, which shows a very big value in= COU temperature: > > doroot@panix:~# mbmon -c 1 > > > > Temp.=3D 42.0, 201.0, 39.0; Rot.=3D 3245, 0, 0 > > Vcore =3D 1.50, 1.81; Volt. =3D 3.30, 5.08, 11.31, -11.74, -1.66 > > > > Also, healthdc shows: > > localhost 186.0 0.0 0.0 5314 17307 0000 1.49 = 2.49 1.62 5.42 0.00 -10.84 0.00 > > and lmmon -i shows: > > Motherboard Temp Voltages > > > > 186C / 366F / 459K Vcore1: +1.469V > > Vcore2: +1.766V > > Fan Speeds + 3.3V: +3.219V > > + 5.0V: +4.932V > > 1: 10629rpm +12.0V: +11.750V > > 2: 33750rpm -12.0V: -13.188V > > 3: 16071rpm - 5.0V: -1.800V > > > > So i dont have any idea how to assess the real CPU temperature. > > I am thinking of tuning down the BIOS to fail-safe settings, just as an= extra measure. > > Apart from that, i have no clue how to solve the random crashes/segfaul= ts problem. > > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from t= he room. > > Any hints would be welcome. > > P.S. > > Please include me in the reply, i am not subscribed to -questions. > > =20 > I use > sysctl -a |grep tepmerature > to get the temperature, tough to say the truth, I am not sure about=20 > their exactly meaning... Yes thx, the problem is that=20 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature always return 40.0C, and i read about others noticing that. >=20 > Best wishes, > Kemian >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 12:14:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA9C106564A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4AD8FC1A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831561EE9B2 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:14:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.055 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.055 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-1.613, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169, WEIRD_PORT=1.499] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1qY-O8ReQ9U5 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:14:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7453D1EE8EC for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:14:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48847DA0.40609@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:14:24 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <488475C4.8090501@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <488475C4.8090501@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trying to build Squid 3.0.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:14:33 -0000 Leslie Jensen skrev: > When I try to build Squid it stops with the following: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > mv -f "$depbase.Tpo" "$depbase.Po"; else rm -f "$depbase.Tpo"; exit 1; fi > neighbors.cc: In function 'void dump_peer_options(StoreEntry*, peer*)': > neighbors.cc:1612: error: 'struct _peer::' has no member > named 'carp' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30/work/squid-3.0.STABLE8. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/squid30. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Any clues on how I get around this. > > I tried with squid-3.0.7 last week and it went well, now squid is > uppgraded to 3.0.8 and it wont build on the same machine! > > Thanks > /Leslie > > http://www.spreadbsd.org/aff/162/3 Answering my own post! SQUID_CARP must be marked in make config. /Les From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 12:24:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350B4106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.kdang@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04E68FC08 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.kdang@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so269723uge.37 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:24:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=MXcftAxd4kvCW9XHwAvSfl+x9aI2dgnopFxm6f5KTgw=; b=E3CfuSWSoeXh6ZR+WUt+eyMrnaGScTh00FqCseEklXXLk+mpe4XRslQPxljzda2Osd i9MtbC7fofW5+VYLawAH1U9t1+7BHGm2JdrdjvvSOM3+tQuB2k1LW6txzXSbtYHVSwCC hLrtPhbOgMnH24kv2/l+6TMU3wfBYsFyxzFuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=mlYpUrEBWf8kQ+LkNP3MB0l842hBa73zl5o2fTsZM4uCYTlscQYFSoet7KY8D9vIwQ KmSPxHqb9XVOe9LixFxckyFN7ACY4w881897vLUHwoqVmxY+jh+Cz0sZz1ifdVODY0d7 E0eAERZ5hxZEprhq4YYbvO8fY3Qc/XPvaxCLs= Received: by 10.67.115.12 with SMTP id s12mr1556242ugm.51.1216641583067; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemian.inf.ed.ac.uk ( [129.215.49.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k1sm477290ugf.21.2008.07.21.04.59.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48847A0D.6070907@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:59:09 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080623) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios References: <200807211426.03832.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807211426.03832.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kemian Dang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:24:15 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days (room temp about 30 deg C). > I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, which shows a very big value in COU temperature: > doroot@panix:~# mbmon -c 1 > > Temp.= 42.0, 201.0, 39.0; Rot.= 3245, 0, 0 > Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.31, -11.74, -1.66 > > Also, healthdc shows: > localhost 186.0 0.0 0.0 5314 17307 0000 1.49 2.49 1.62 5.42 0.00 -10.84 0.00 > and lmmon -i shows: > Motherboard Temp Voltages > > 186C / 366F / 459K Vcore1: +1.469V > Vcore2: +1.766V > Fan Speeds + 3.3V: +3.219V > + 5.0V: +4.932V > 1: 10629rpm +12.0V: +11.750V > 2: 33750rpm -12.0V: -13.188V > 3: 16071rpm - 5.0V: -1.800V > > So i dont have any idea how to assess the real CPU temperature. > I am thinking of tuning down the BIOS to fail-safe settings, just as an extra measure. > Apart from that, i have no clue how to solve the random crashes/segfaults problem. > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from the room. > Any hints would be welcome. > P.S. > Please include me in the reply, i am not subscribed to -questions. > I use sysctl -a |grep tepmerature to get the temperature, tough to say the truth, I am not sure about their exactly meaning... Best wishes, Kemian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 12:41:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984D1106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2078FC0C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:57281) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KKuhK-000C98-JU; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:02 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KKuhK-0004q1-Is; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:02 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.33) Cc: achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com Subject: re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:41:06 -0000 From: Achilleas Mantzios > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days > (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, > which shows a very big value in COU temperature: > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from > the room. Actually, that doesn't work, your components will get hotter. This is because the case provides a through flow environment where air is forced to flow over most of the components most of the time. By opening the case you remove the force, and now have to rely on convection. What you want to do is make sure all the fans are running freely. Especially the processor fan. It may have stopped silently an dthat would definitely cause crashes. A fan at the front of the case blowing IN is more effective than one on the back blowing out, so if there isn't one on the front, add one. The 80 to 120mm ones can be very quiet and some can control their own speed if your motherboard cannot do it. If one can blow in the front and directly on the harddrives then that is a bonus, cool harddrives last longer. The basic idea of a case is to have air coming in the front and exiting at the rear. So make sure all your fans are blowing in the right direction. My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on going, using the principles above. I fitted a fan to the UPS as well (-: -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 13:39:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275761065672 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EE98FC28 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so187749yxb.13 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=KDALJDQQIzEXNSNqC83uqhcqJjnU4YdZ75XArVktoUw=; b=DScBZ8XAMGruRvoLue5FvErqscVe9ZujVkI0wy6Tb0GxfCLFZLZlmmO2H4jFWRhZSS ofGd7sHOR8EDnW/R4vF7G85yJrJAYVbOv+n3r1VtEdUfb1qAI+8hZBDe6J+ER8vbtIAb Rvkoxl9MTHqFFdADQ9eYo78YJQ3hHMq5Nszu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=OazTu0h6cVSGQxo+342iHJQcl0US87MgDlBqir9rYuABrk0nnrfOzmgdd9H4BsJTcU t7fji+BHl5z3GZ77OJaBAUSHSbfmok/h/uwCn1jVyK7JK7oOCCd6g8AvcJX87XApL8w8 qDV9f/9ng5/fsbIuEPDkyjaVe3ENT7m/GDDmo= Received: by 10.150.12.10 with SMTP id 10mr3814904ybl.185.1216647592332; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.82.15 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60807210639n6a1a5e9icd7623bfe4524366@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:39:52 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: "John Almberg" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to simulate a user's crontab? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:39:54 -0000 > Actually, I highly recommend a Mac program called Yojimbo, that is a > kind of general purpose memory tool. You can throw all sorts of > information into it, and find it very easily when you need it. > Fantastic program and I don't know of anything like it on other > platforms. If you're looking for the same type of "Remember everything" functionality as Yojimbo, but platform independent, then you might want to take a look at http://www.evernote.com. It's web based (but .Mac free) plus it also has a MacOS X and a Windows client if you need them. HTH, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 If you receive something that says "Send this to everyone you know", then please pretend you don't know me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 13:56:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4775B1065676 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B038FC0C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LDuCuH033993; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:56:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6LDuBCQ033992; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:56:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:56:10 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807211656.10874.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:56:15 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Monday 21 July 2008 15:41:01 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 DA Fors= yth =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > From: Achilleas Mantzios >=20 > > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days > > (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, > > which shows a very big value in COU temperature: >=20 > > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from > > the room.=20 >=20 > Actually, that doesn't work, your components will get hotter. This=20 > is because the case provides a through flow environment where air is=20 > forced to flow over most of the components most of the time. By=20 > opening the case you remove the force, and now have to rely on=20 > convection. >=20 > What you want to do is make sure all the fans are running freely. > Especially the processor fan. It may have stopped silently an dthat=20 > would definitely cause crashes. >=20 > A fan at the front of the case blowing IN is more effective than one=20 > on the back blowing out, so if there isn't one on the front, add one. > The 80 to 120mm ones can be very quiet and some can control their own=20 > speed if your motherboard cannot do it. If one can blow in the front=20 > and directly on the harddrives then that is a bonus, cool harddrives=20 > last longer. >=20 > The basic idea of a case is to have air coming in the front and=20 > exiting at the rear. So make sure all your fans are blowing in the=20 > right direction. >=20 > My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on=20 > going, using the principles above. I fitted a fan to the UPS as well=20 > (-: >=20 >=20 My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=3D>inside, one in the power supply and one on the CPU. In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air, i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings. Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temperatur= e. Is there anything in mind? >=20 >=20 > -- > DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor > Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research > http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ >=20 >=20 >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 14:18:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A9A106567D for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leosat.it@ariel.ru) Received: from mail1.ariel.ru (mail1.ariel.ru [85.21.118.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DFC8FC1F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leosat.it@ariel.ru) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.ariel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1DF9C0C3 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:59:12 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.126.40] (unknown [192.168.126.40]) by mail1.ariel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F989BA49 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:59:11 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <488493D7.4030904@ariel.ru> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:49:11 +0400 From: Leonid Satanovsky User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Looking for 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:18:11 -0000 Hi, people! Does annybody know some 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0? [we have an old mailserver with only 32-bit PCI slots in it] Thanks in advance, --les. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Best regards, Leonid E. Satanovsky, system administrator, Ariel Metal. tel.: +7 (495) 786-42-9 (292), +7 (495) 786-43-03 fax: +7 (495) 786-42-90 e-mail: leosat.it@ariel.ru http://www.arielmetal.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 14:26:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EBB1065672 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB55E8FC18 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 828E528469; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:26:53 -0400 (EDT) To: Andrew Falanga References: <48829090.4050508@gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:26:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <48829090.4050508@gmail.com> (Andrew Falanga's message of "Sat\, 19 Jul 2008 19\:10\:40 -0600") Message-ID: <44od4r8g9e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading from USB devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:26:55 -0000 Andrew Falanga writes: > I'd like to read data from a USB device that is not a thumb drive. > How would I do this? For instance, it's an oximeter for reading > biometrics. What libraries exist for reading things like VID/PID, and > most importantly, reading the data from the device? Start with usb(4). HID devices tend to be easier to deal with than others, but I doubt your instruments are in that category. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 15:05:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58371065675 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0C18FC16 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6LF21Q0041584; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:02:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6LF21YS041583; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:02:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:02:01 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721150201.GA41544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:20 -0000 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:40:20AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 02:55:22PM +0700, OutBackDingo wrote: > > > > > How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest > > > measurement for approximations to zero... > > > > I think this is a bit uncalled for, it might have been in a candid > > manner, but there are alot of locations in the world using FreeBSD > > quite effectively where most people live on less then a dollar a day > > Id also like to note your so called US dollar isnt fairing so well. > > Pretty soon might it also be worth 0.00. I do think we should try not to > > insult the ecomonics of other countries > > The US Dollar hasn't really been worth anything since 1975 at the latest. > People just haven't figured that out yet. Neither have most of the things people are buying with it. So, it all evens out. It people only bought what they really need, the dollar would be high, and the economy would be totally stagnant. Who knows, maybe that would be better than what we have now. ////jerry > > -- > Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] > They always say that when life gives you lemons you should make lemonade. > I always wonder -- isn't the lemonade going to suck if life doesn't give > you any sugar? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 15:05:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D1E1065670 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1A48FC16 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 3917 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2008 15:05:25 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Jul 2008 15:05:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4884A5BD.4040603@telenix.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:05:33 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <48829090.4050508@gmail.com> <44od4r8g9e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44od4r8g9e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Reading from USB devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:05:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Andrew Falanga writes: > >> I'd like to read data from a USB device that is not a thumb drive. >> How would I do this? For instance, it's an oximeter for reading >> biometrics. What libraries exist for reading things like VID/PID, and >> most importantly, reading the data from the device? > > Start with usb(4). HID devices tend to be easier to deal with than > others, but I doubt your instruments are in that category. > Actually, if it was a thumb drive, yes it would surely not be a hid device, but an oximeter? Seems like it stands a very good chance, and it's easy enough to check, just see if it can run the uhid driver. If it comes up as the uhid (just kill off the ugen for a run) then it's a uhid. I disagree that its all that easy even then, because you need to know how to read the report descriptor. Kai Wang's krepdump util will give you the report descriptor in binary, and if you needed help in parsing it, I wrote a helpful demonstration hid parser, in python (with a nice GUI), if you have python with tkinter working, then give me a email, I'll email the stuff to you, it's only a 25K tarball. If you read that descriptor, it gives you enough info to be able to parse the stuff coming from the oximeter, so just loop a C program using read(), to pick up the bytes. All the info needed to do that's in the report descriptor. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiEpbwACgkQz62J6PPcoOlmUQCeKQoRJUa5FpPctCuh1dB0nPDC YpwAnAw2I7a8cg778TBVpioEl7P33BWF =KCaA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 15:18:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BCD1065674 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD56D8FC12 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so934311mue.3 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JYrNzV2Q23teocTmZ1AB+kYrNkDGavkdqmoDk5CbxHc=; b=J6Ef9Rz8gbgQRFPVZtrMt/UQVy8sbD5opB+1csCJ0ay5agZF6OQjGkE0CaUkU7EV4d i+ARanPK7r/TMrG/5o7PilKsh+Y8xxMmFoUToaN4fclYICU54W7UsWdONR+lFPeapTMZ 4CupxVSM/UgE5r7ITu3bX6wcTIqonXecd1R2k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tyQWmg92U7xH450o7gFIK+BKvOc2MxSGnTSLjTutboq5L6dI/+LFc++uvCDMbbZytT 1FPyz8xM24Jg2t+iGmgJMMGbiLnUIpZPqv4zSK8APVspSoGtT9TXUPq1amf0r/g0hxMf G5NfaFEwfzMDgfpB0BJU6aVugHOnIp8cnCerc= Received: by 10.103.186.14 with SMTP id n14mr2698864mup.40.1216653483248; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm39178031mug.15.2008.07.21.08.18.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4884A8A7.3070108@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:17:59 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807211656.10874.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807211656.10874.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:18:05 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >> My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on >> going, using the principles above. I fitted a fan to the UPS as well >> (-: >> >> >> > My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=>inside, > one in the power supply and one on the CPU. > > In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air, > i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings. > > Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temperature. > Is there anything in mind? > As you already noticed, mbmon is no good in recent hardware. It works successfully in my 865-based systems though. As others have said, I would recommend adding a rear out-take fan. Do not rely on the PSU's fan to take all the warm air out. The PSU generates heat on its own, and the fan may not be sufficient. A rear out-take fan should be located rather high - at CPU height - since warm air always goes up. This is where most cases have a place for the fan anyway. A note for monitoring: If you are using FreeBSD 7.0 and you have an Intel Core CPU, there is a new coretemp(4) driver that can actually read the on-die digital thermal sensor. Have a look at man coretemp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 16:31:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B9106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from mrelay1.cape.com (mrelay3.cape.com [216.237.97.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB138FC1B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from tomato (209-213-65-25.meganet.net [209.213.65.25]) by mrelay1.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D728139; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:15:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Bacon X-X-Sender: crtb@tomato.local To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721115525.N38345@tomato.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: Have I poisoned something in USB filesystems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:31:47 -0000 I have 2 mem sticks and several CF cards from a Nikon Coolpix camera. In the past I've freely used these both ways, through USB. My OS is, via uname -a: FreeBSD daisy.local 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I had a problem with a new 4GB CF card which wouldn't mount in an audio recorder (M-Audio Microtrack), and tried formatting it using the recorder's own formatter. OK so far. But it wouldn't mount on my FreeBSD. So I perhaps unwisely tried working from scratch, rebuilding the MBR (copied from /boot/mbr) and using fdisk from there. Now I can mount it and all the other (photo) CF cards, but xv(1) for the first time complains of *.jpg saying: : "Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment" and quits. At one time I guessed perhaps badly that I should use fdisk with powers of two and rebuild a CF card with 64 heads and 32 sectors; let the #cyls fall out. Looks good, but now fdisk on all my USB CF cards says those are the numbers unless I use fdisk -i -t. Yet I can reboot. When I do, CF cards still mount and are still not viewable with xv. something strange has happened and I wonder if some persistent data regarding msdosfs structures has been written. I had hoped that #cyl, #head, #sec values would be ignored in favor of LBA, but I guess I'm wrong. Any ideas? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 16:45:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E34B1065676 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBD78FC12 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D329268614CA3; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5xxD2e-JdL9J; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id B56C56861417B; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:45:24 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721164524.GA9388@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <488493D7.4030904@ariel.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <488493D7.4030904@ariel.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 OpenPKG/% (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Looking for 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:45:26 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008, Leonid Satanovsky wrote: > Hi, people! > Does annybody know some > 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0? > > [we have an old mailserver with only 32-bit PCI slots in it] I suspect that 3ware would be a good choice although I have not used these with FreeBSD. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. --Thomas Jefferson. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 17:50:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A83A10656C2 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8758FC14 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LHoXqj054585 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:50:23 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080721175020.GA4476@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: groups, using "www" as "kline" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:50:26 -0000 is there a way of modifing etcgroup to let me edit files chown'd www:kline as kline? after all, i am in the wheel and operator group. gary ps: thing i never learned in kindergarten:-) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 18:08:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173EA106567F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout015.mac.com (asmtpout015.mac.com [17.148.16.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2728FC17 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp015.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4D00BDOBPRUK90@asmtp015.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: cswiger@mac.com Message-id: <33B16A60-FB51-46A3-BE38-6FC5F5B92D72@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Gary Kline In-reply-to: <20080721175020.GA4476@thought.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:08:15 -0700 References: <20080721175020.GA4476@thought.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: groups, using "www" as "kline" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:08:16 -0000 On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > is there a way of modifing etcgroup to let me edit files > chown'd www:kline as kline? after all, i am in the wheel > and operator group. Presuming you are in the kline group also, and that the files are group-writable, you should be fine. On a fair number of sites I know of, there is a "webadmin" or "wwwadmin" group setup which the users who should change webserver resources are part of; but the apache www user is not a member of this, so it can't change those files itself. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 18:26:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2447106567B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us (mail.bloomfield.K12.MO.US [204.184.27.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C38B8FC0A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us (localhost.bloomfield.k12.mo.us [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF8995829; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:27:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 204.184.27.217 (SquirrelMail authenticated user sgmayo) by mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:27:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:27:15 -0500 (CDT) From: sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us To: openldap-software@OpenLDAP.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References: In-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slapd not starting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:26:24 -0000 I was having some troubles with the samba install telling me that openldap 2.3.42 and 2.4.10 would conflict. I had installed openldap 2.4.10 server and I guess that was the problem. It seemed to start up just fine, but since I could not get samba to install and it kept giving me the error that the clients would conflict, I decided just to uninstall 2.4.10 and install the 2.3.42. Now when I try to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd start, it just seems to sit there and then goes back to the prompt. I checked the port with sockstat -4 -p 389 and it is not running. I don't see anything in the /var/log/messages about it so I am not sure what is going on. I am confused why 2.4.1 seemd to run fine, but 2.3.42 does not even though the config files are the same. Thanks for any info. Here is my /usr/local/etc/openldap/ldap.conf SIZELIMIT 200 HOST 127.0.0.1 URI ldap://server.bloomfield.k12.mo.us ssl start_tls tls_cacert /etc/ssl/cacert.crt and here is my /usr/local/etc/openldap/slapd.conf include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/core.schema include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/cosine.schema include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/nis.schema include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/inetorgperson.schema include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/samba.schema pidfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.pid argsfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.args logfile /var/log/slapd.log loglevel -1 sizelimit -1 modulepath /usr/local/libexec/openldap moduleload back_bdb security ssf=128 TLSCertificateFile /etc/ssl/cert.crt TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/cert.key TLSCACertificateFile /etc/ssl/cacert.crt database bdb suffix "dc=server,dc=bloomfield.k12.mo.us" rootdn "cn=Manager,dc=server,dc=bloomfield.k12.mo.us" rootpw ####### directory /var/db/openldap-data index objectClass eq index cn,sn,uid,displayName pres,sub,eq index uidNumber,gidNumber eq index sambaSID eq index sambaPrimaryGroupSID eq index sambaDomainName eq index memberUID eq index default -- Scott Mayo - System Administrator Bloomfield Schools PH: 573-568-5669 FA: 573-568-4565 Question: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Answer: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 18:48:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98D6106567D for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamara.bunke@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8988FC1A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamara.bunke@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so622199nfh.33 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:48:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=AkqvLEk4b3Io+RUfn92mSzweAMt/Xoig9mx89XPQVhg=; b=ax4nM9DkTQ2mY3OHaTGxMTqep5QjwSrV0+QXqSohl+m6BQ+EMzkGrN+pQa/50/ksSD EG5BN+r8KAUGzfkY+GkdRau/FPpjkI7Ic9kQ/x6DjOaKmdWjPZ/94T/XDGG/0dmWLCtC pjl+Egw1q/pD6i/K1OuWJrWDHLNTmL+wBzLHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nD5XiIz0Qq+qCpA+muDU9ucTMW85iN+Bu3JOZ6fgcqeFfg9MMOR7D3h34bg6dPjz/+ OltApYy5bI4xLwnXTqfsmoEzQacTsOm1cwoB/8pNstZUGETy99qa4RthbUfWcmdB/eoz xUqcGHcHTienUPia/XdvJbD7ne3qGN7ORu+Z4= Received: by 10.210.120.7 with SMTP id s7mr3580600ebc.76.1216664538235; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.122.17 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:22:18 -0400 From: "Tamara Bunke" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Iphone on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:48:53 -0000 I am looking into purchasing an Iphone 3G. Will it play nice with the USB ports under FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2? Data/Pic transfer to/from?? TIA Bob -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. - George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 19:19:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536491065674 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from panix.internal.net (cpe-77-83-248-253-dsl.netone.gr [77.83.248.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851978FC18 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from panix.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panix.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LJ53bI001792; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:05:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by panix.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6LJ52qu001791; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:05:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: panix.internal.net: achix set sender to achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com using -f From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: Manolis Kiagias , achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:05:00 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807211656.10874.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4884A8A7.3070108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4884A8A7.3070108@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807212205.02066.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:19:25 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Monday 21 July 2008 18:17:59 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Manolis= Kiagias =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > >> My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on=20 > >> going, using the principles above. I fitted a fan to the UPS as well= =20 > >> (-: > >> > >> > >> =20 > > My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=3D>inside, > > one in the power supply and one on the CPU. > > > > In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with ai= r, > > i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settin= gs. > > > > Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temper= ature. > > Is there anything in mind? > > =20 >=20 > As you already noticed, mbmon is no good in recent hardware. It works=20 > successfully in my 865-based systems though. > As others have said, I would recommend adding a rear out-take fan. Do=20 > not rely on the PSU's fan to take all the warm air out. The PSU=20 > generates heat on its own, and the fan may not be sufficient. A rear=20 > out-take fan should be located rather high - at CPU height - since warm=20 > air always goes up. This is where most cases have a place for the fan=20 > anyway. It is indeed as you say. The fans on my case are: the PSU fan, one takeout fan just below the PSU and the CPU fan. It is a medium tower size case. The thing is on the bottom PCI slot i have installed a Kodicom 4400 for video capture for use with zoneminder, (the FreeBSD port is available from the zoneminder site) and right above that a LML video capture card. and then while capturing 5 full frame-rate (25fps) cameras in zoneminder a) the load never falls below 0.4 even while no users use it (it is our fam= ily workstation as well:) b) all the heat from the kodicom flows higher to the CPU/memory area of the= case Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :( after kldload coretemp, i get [achix@panix ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1 [achix@panix ~]%=20 The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1. >=20 > A note for monitoring: If you are using FreeBSD 7.0 and you have an=20 > Intel Core CPU, there is a new coretemp(4) driver that can actually read= =20 > the on-die digital thermal sensor. Have a look at man coretemp >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 19:28:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D46106568E for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from smtp.tal.navalradio.cl (smtp.tal.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607618FC27 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [172.18.64.125] ([172.18.64.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.tal.navalradio.cl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6LJ9815043178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:09:15 GMT (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <4884DF6B.4020306@webanoide.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:11:39 -0400 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us References: In-Reply-To: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, openldap-software@OpenLDAP.org Subject: Re: Slapd not starting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:28:59 -0000 sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us wrote: > I was having some troubles with the samba install telling me that openldap > 2.3.42 and 2.4.10 would conflict. I had installed openldap 2.4.10 server > and I guess that was the problem. It seemed to start up just fine, but > since I could not get samba to install and it kept giving me the error > that the clients would conflict, I decided just to uninstall 2.4.10 and > install the 2.3.42. > > Now when I try to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd start, it just seems to sit > there and then goes back to the prompt. > > I checked the port with sockstat -4 -p 389 and it is not running. I don't > see anything in the /var/log/messages about it so I am not sure what is > going on. Check /var/log/debug.log Regards, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 19:38:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F08C106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8808FC16 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m6LJCEj69726 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id TAA21999; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:10:07 GMT Message-Id: <200807211910.TAA21999@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:10:07 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: Re: mounting ext2fs partitions on FBSD7 ( third time a charm?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:38:10 -0000 > # mount -t ext2fs /dev/ad0s8 /mnt/ > # ls /mnt > ls: /mnt: Bad file descriptor Weird. I can mount ext2fs on 7.0 (and previously on 6.0 and 6.2) and things mostly work. In the past I had ext2fs on both primary and extended slices (or whatever the preferred terminology is). This is on AMD64 with SATA drives. My ext2fs filesystems were created by Linux (32 bit Linux, since penguins can't count to 64). Are you sure that ad0s8 contains a valid ext2fs filesystem? Can Linux mount it and access it? Maybe try running fsck? What OS created (newfs/mkfs) the filesystem? Problems I have seen with ext2fs: There was some case where accessing a large ( > 1 GB) file (rm-ing it I think?) hung or paniced FreeBSD. Small files are fine. Sometimes on boot FreeBSD would get confused and think the fext2fs needed to be fscked dispite a clean shutdown, but wasn't able to do so automagically, so it dropped into single user mode and sat there waiting for manual intervention. I no longer have ext2fs automatically mounted. There is probably some configuration fix for this. ext2fs is unreliable and LOSES DATA under it's native Linux. ----------- Linus Is Not a Unix eXpert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 19:44:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49CE1065676 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB3F8FC1C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1109295fkk.11 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kJ/eksA4rmeNyUP4Cy25awJ9Wg0Qz+p5hDFgzEr3coU=; b=V6ihAGaQWBCDbf5h+of2wiMCRN5BZdNAhgNA69wz1or2NWwdlhbgCyymzHteArIBPt SOgHMfcl5ptsUHfjVgW34hxThf4S48X0OTlXnixqFcaAsqCMKL6qlud08tPR8BUT1Ed+ ZZmM46Qm+3zM4RP48573eGK7+q0tZZM4ObgMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OxEVBRb1xr0qvgQLFJ/+PVVOxqOQX9KCLBcx85Oapsa9zQpaNws4KHEpkKhO2NJ50k 5R8ziQBZ3i9W3sYB6kX6tTI0/X/cvfXhpB2hs/oHc+dMwN/pB0JgzTdKJS10hYS6psVc u5Xl+0pC6qAq/4tHXtUH1MI1jagVEn7vmsMN8= Received: by 10.181.21.2 with SMTP id y2mr2249454bki.44.1216669489572; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm14899768fka.3.2008.07.21.12.44.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4884E72E.8060508@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:44:46 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807211656.10874.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4884A8A7.3070108@gmail.com> <200807212205.02066.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807212205.02066.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:44:51 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >>> >>> >> As you already noticed, mbmon is no good in recent hardware. It works >> successfully in my 865-based systems though. >> As others have said, I would recommend adding a rear out-take fan. Do >> not rely on the PSU's fan to take all the warm air out. The PSU >> generates heat on its own, and the fan may not be sufficient. A rear >> out-take fan should be located rather high - at CPU height - since warm >> air always goes up. This is where most cases have a place for the fan >> anyway. >> > It is indeed as you say. The fans on my case are: > the PSU fan, one takeout fan just below the PSU and the CPU fan. > It is a medium tower size case. The thing is on the bottom PCI slot > i have installed a Kodicom 4400 for video capture for use with zoneminder, > (the FreeBSD port is available from the zoneminder site) > and right above that a LML video capture card. > and then while capturing 5 full frame-rate (25fps) cameras in zoneminder > a) the load never falls below 0.4 even while no users use it (it is our family workstation as well:) > b) all the heat from the kodicom flows higher to the CPU/memory area of the case > > Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :( > after kldload coretemp, i get > [achix@panix ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C > dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1 > [achix@panix ~]% > The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1. > This -1 probably means your CPU is not supported. The man page says "Intel Core or newer" CPUs, and as I understand this is specific to Intel and will not work on AMD. It works fine on my core2duo laptop. I don't know if it works with the earlier Intel CoreDuo (not core2duo) Assuming the heat is what is actually causing you the problems, your options are rather limited: Move to a bigger case with options for better ventilation (maybe 12cm fans in front / rear) or use fans with higher CFM ratings (that will also make it more noisy, one more factor to consider). I currently have a machine with a 25cm side fan. Completely noiseless, and always runs cool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 19:51:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFF110656F7 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC148FC0A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LJpbcV055382 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:51:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: another beginner-type question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:51:35 -0000 i could've saved myself a lot of work over the weekend if i have checked the php randizer file.... but i didn't. so now, while this isn't entirely essential, is there a way of using /bin/ed or /usr/bin/ex within in a /bin/sh file to delete to-and-including say, each of my 70 fils has
is there a way of deleting from the 1st line to
? [[ and from
to EOF?? i could do this kwik and dirty, and type in/fix any anomalies later, but it would be nice to know. I've already tried 1, /
d and a other such. zip. thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 19:58:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E11106567B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B868FC0C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1014649wfg.7 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:58:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=WkZBB1/wTBCTjg4pdZYpiW5y20/g+aiSB28q2hPVG/Q=; b=qAaYFqUrfZTc7AQdIbfG21ABTlqJZrVOM4YqD/QNpH5JQe0qGrAGXTJfSq3gJsqLPn V1Y2MMpDD9QEAacfsaPnl/gwCcCLCDgjIa5k62CwTaubLm1rHANmTuUJzMEpkUOlvD/K MCxPnDv35qKkNffvjzG+meL4L841u6yo4S89I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :x-google-sender-auth; b=LnS1aO5xLJsfsZ9LNplndHjmIkYC8e4c5CN5dOfDFk4bS3qqF7yLrUd+QGYvC9pez0 ilz/yuBY/Tw54e9H6MYbALcLo2E4WNyu11llHRwD4wNLu5gbtqC8N8OOb93l1J0061Dg OASjPTzw5maz+qevYpy3VxPeh33ZV+CC6bg4w= Received: by 10.142.12.14 with SMTP id 14mr1496687wfl.182.1216670315455; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.162.8 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807211258u30085987t687d2c6213d03cd0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:58:35 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 125c41be3cdfe8ab Cc: frank@exit.com Subject: konica minolta magicolor 2430DL drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:58:36 -0000 FYI, I thought I'd post my experiences yesterday bringing up my new used KM2340DL printer. (1) I'm on a vanilla 6.3-release amd64 system. (2) configured a spare network card as a dhcp server - Isn't FBSD great! (2) Installed cups-magicolor from ports (3) turned on printer, and visited it's internal webpage with firefox (4) configured cups via localhost:631 (5) added new printer with the MAGICOLOR2430DL port, and a driver of approximately the same name. (6) printed test page - no apparent response from printer, and job changed to "stopped" after about 30 seconds. (7) tried various permutations of starting & stopping printer, rebooting, etc. (8) downloaded .ppd from minolta (called linux_sc_blahblah.gz), used it with the MAGICOLOR port, same response. (9) installed foo2zjs port, noted only 2530 printer was listed under "Konica Minolta", which prints out nice garbage (but at least it's printing now!) (10) noticed there's also plain "Minolta" under drivers, which actually has a 2430 and now it works! Hope this helps someone down the road... Best, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 20:05:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED931065676 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E259B8FC0A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LK66WZ055516; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:05:57 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20080721200556.GA8788@thought.org> References: <20080721175020.GA4476@thought.org> <33B16A60-FB51-46A3-BE38-6FC5F5B92D72@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <33B16A60-FB51-46A3-BE38-6FC5F5B92D72@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: groups, using "www" as "kline" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:05:58 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:08:15AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > is there a way of modifing etcgroup to let me edit files > > chown'd www:kline as kline? after all, i am in the wheel > > and operator group. > > Presuming you are in the kline group also, and that the files are > group-writable, you should be fine. > > On a fair number of sites I know of, there is a "webadmin" or > "wwwadmin" group setup which the users who should change webserver > resources are part of; but the apache www user is not a member of > this, so it can't change those files itself. strage, i'm in kline is part of www; but i stil fon'thave permission for myself---or, indeed, anyone new. gary > > Regards, > -- > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 20:09:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BC9106566C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E5E8FC15 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 23063 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2008 20:09:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2008 20:09:47 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 118F028429; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:09:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:09:46 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: another beginner-type question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:09:50 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:51:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > i could do this kwik and dirty, and type in/fix any anomalies later, but > it would be nice to know. > > I've already tried > > 1, /
d > > and a other such. zip. % sed -e "1,/
/d" < junk.in > junk.out -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 20:13:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FE4106566C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B108FC1A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: (qmail 67437 invoked by uid 89); 21 Jul 2008 20:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dev2.pchotshots.com) (bmettee@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with ESMTPA; 21 Jul 2008 20:12:44 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20080721161309.035aadd8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Sender: bmettee@pchotshots.com@mail.pchotshots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:13:16 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brad Mettee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: groups, using "www" as "kline" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:13:16 -0000 What are the permissions on the files you're trying to edit? 664 would allow owner/group editing, but readonly by world. If it's 644, then only owner can edit, but group/world can read. At 04:05 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote: >On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:08:15AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > is there a way of modifing etcgroup to let me edit files > > > chown'd www:kline as kline? after all, i am in the wheel > > > and operator group. > > > > Presuming you are in the kline group also, and that the files are > > group-writable, you should be fine. > > > > On a fair number of sites I know of, there is a "webadmin" or > > "wwwadmin" group setup which the users who should change webserver > > resources are part of; but the apache www user is not a member of > > this, so it can't change those files itself. > > > strage, i'm in kline is part of www; but i stil fon'thave > permission for myself---or, indeed, anyone new. > > gary > > > > > > > Regards, > > -- > > -Chuck > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 20:20:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076E9106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DB88FC1A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6LK6s05091753; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SXvstg+RxjpF; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6LK6jcM091747; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4884EC50.1070302@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:06:40 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us References: In-Reply-To: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, openldap-software@OpenLDAP.org Subject: Re: Slapd not starting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:20:06 -0000 sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us wrote: > I was having some troubles with the samba install telling me that openldap > 2.3.42 and 2.4.10 would conflict. I had installed openldap 2.4.10 server > and I guess that was the problem. It seemed to start up just fine, but > since I could not get samba to install and it kept giving me the error > that the clients would conflict, I decided just to uninstall 2.4.10 and > install the 2.3.42. > > Now when I try to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd start, it just seems to sit > there and then goes back to the prompt. > > I checked the port with sockstat -4 -p 389 and it is not running. I don't > see anything in the /var/log/messages about it so I am not sure what is > going on. > > I am confused why 2.4.1 seemd to run fine, but 2.3.42 does not even though > the config files are the same. Thanks for any info. What happens if you just run "slapd -d -1" from the command line? Invoking it that way should produce lots of output, some of which might give you valid information about the problem. Kevin Kinsey -- UNFAIR COMPETITION: Selling cheaper than we do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 20:32:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B79A106564A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07B88FC08 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LKX7Av055739 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:32:57 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721203257.GA9748@thought.org> References: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: another beginner-type question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:32:59 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 03:09:46PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:51:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > i could do this kwik and dirty, and type in/fix any anomalies later, but > > it would be nice to know. > > > > I've already tried > > > > 1, /
d > > > > and a other such. zip. > > % sed -e "1,/
/d" < junk.in > junk.out thanks, david. i was havinf cofffee when i thought "sed!" but was way off on the syntax. gary > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 21:13:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950FD106567C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244408FC21 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 450 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2008 21:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 21 Jul 2008 21:13:55 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id BF02F28429; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:13:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:13:53 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080721211353.GA3021@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20080721203257.GA9748@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721203257.GA9748@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another beginner-type question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:13:57 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 01:32:57PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 03:09:46PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:51:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > I've already tried > > > > > > 1, /
d > > > > > > and a other such. zip. > > > > % sed -e "1,/
/d" < junk.in > junk.out > > thanks, david. i was havinf cofffee when i thought "sed!" > but was way off on the syntax. Not so far off, just one more / and you were there. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 21:24:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2DB106567B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail43.e.nsc.no (mail43.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594D48FC19 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [84.202.100.145] (084202100145.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.100.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail43.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m6LLOtVi013215; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:24:55 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <4884FEDA.1060109@next.online.no> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:25:46 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080229) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807211656.10874.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4884A8A7.3070108@gmail.com> <200807212205.02066.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807212205.02066.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:24:58 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > ... > Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :( > after kldload coretemp, i get > [achix@panix ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C > dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1 > [achix@panix ~]% > The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1. Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have? Manolis presumes you have an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts. If you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 21:42:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FA5106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@zog.net) Received: from taklamakan.88.net (taklamakan.88.net [80.68.94.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540118FC17 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@zog.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taklamakan.88.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D8BC8012 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:42:23 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at 88.net Received: from taklamakan.88.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (taklamakan.88.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KHBkHMpxDFdd for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:42:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ASt-Lambert-151-1-14-188.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.108.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by taklamakan.88.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01D2C800B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:42:15 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <4B57CEBA-2F62-4979-B4CE-D3C9727A0E85@zog.net> From: John Morgan Salomon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1CD17FFA-7CE2-4C6A-A578-BA9542E4A9AE@zog.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:42:14 +0200 References: <2385.82.120.108.188.1216634229.squirrel@www.88.net> <20080721125225.956c3aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> <1CD17FFA-7CE2-4C6A-A578-BA9542E4A9AE@zog.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Subject: Re: Recover Lost Superblocks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:42:24 -0000 OK, I have a followup question to this. After some mucking around, I've managed to lose my partition again (although the data is still there, I installed testdisk and let photorec run; it looks like it's finding pretty much everything.) Running newfs -N on /dev/aacd0 finds a ton of backup superblocks. My filesystems were originally /dev/aacd0s1a, aacd0s1b and aacd0s1e. When I originally recreated the FreeBSD partition with the same geometry under my new rescue HDD, it added a device entry "aacd0s1c" but not any of the others. Running fsck_ufs -b doesn't seem to do much of anything. I'd be grateful if someone could help me with the following questions: 1) when I run the above command, is it supposed to replace a filesystem's superblock with the backup superblock? 2) is there a way to look at the contents of the backup superblocks that newfs -N found? 3) is there a way to re-create aacd0s1a, aacd0s1b and aacd0s1e? The rescue OS seems to only want to bother with aacd0s1c, which was not used by any of the partitions previously. Thanks for any help, -John On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:04 PM, John Morgan Salomon wrote: > Wow, a sympathetic ear, was expecting far more scorn than that :-) > > I am currently running TestDisk, which at least _appears_ to be > finding something filesystem-like (at least it's listed a few > "empty" "somethings" that look somehow reasonable, size-wise.) > Cross your fingers. Gpart and TestDisk are entirely passive, i.e. > don't touch data on the disks. > > My plan, if this works out, is to buy a secondary backup consisting > of a RAID 1+0 NAS. I don't have anything big enough to back up > everything to. > > I tried pretty much everything with fsck_ufs. Like I said, though, > I am able to mount the entire partition from the bootable IDE > drive. I see /, /etc/, /dev/ and all that, but since the "rescue" > OS can't see any additional superblocks, it has no devices for the > other filesystems. I am not sufficiently well versed in UFS to > understand how an entire partition can be mounted as a filesystem if > that partition originally had multiple filesystems on it. I'm a bit > wary of playing more with fsck until all else has failed. :-) > > What also weirds me out is that FreeBSD constantly bitches about the > partition being larger than the physical disk (which it decidedly > isn't.) I've tried setting geometry in fdisk any which way > (including using the RAID controller's provided values), and as I > said, the thing mounts the root partition of the array just fine. > I'm considering an exorcist. > > Best, > > -John > > > On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Polytropon wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:57:09 +0200 (CEST), "John Morgan Salomon" > > wrote: >>> Before you ask, this was the backup server. My primary box had >>> decided to >>> die shortly before. I had no backup backup server. Murphy strikes. >> >> I completely do understand you, I'm suffering from a similar problem >> at the moment, but much worse than yours... >> >> Buy tape drives! Buy tape drives! Buy tape drives! :-) >> >> >>> Can someone recommend a way to manually scan the entire partition >>> (either >>> aacd0, aacd0s1 or aacd0s1c) for formerly present filesystems? I >>> am 99% >>> sure that all the data is still present, and if I reinstall the >>> superblocks I'll be able to boot the array, mount the filesystems >>> and get >>> the data off before I continue. I don't know whether I've missed >>> any >>> gpart options (I have the impression it only scans for lost >>> partitions, >>> not ufs filesystem signatures.) >> >> As far as I know - NB that I'm just starting to learn more about UFS, >> shame on me that I'll do this just as every piece of data is gone - >> there are more than one superblock present. According to "man >> fsck_ufs", >> this could be a starting point: >> >> -b Use the block specified immediately after the flag as >> the super >> block for the file system. An alternate super block is >> usually >> located at block 32 for UFS1, and block 160 for UFS2. >> >> This applies if just the first superblock is gone. >> >> Before you start experimenting, maybe it's a good idea to dd the >> data out of the disks and run fsck on the images? I'm not sure... >> >> >>> Any help, tips or pointers would be tremendously appreciated. >> >> Hope you're lucky. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Polytropon >>> From Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 21:58:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5FF1065674 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [193.33.187.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696138FC15 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from deimos.bsd.nix (unknown [89.123.42.206]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5978A16FC3 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:57:57 +0100 (BST) From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:58:05 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200807202221.25123.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <200807202221.25123.ghirai@ghirai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807220058.05615.ghirai@ghirai.com> Subject: Re: py-qt install error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:58:10 -0000 On Sunday 20 July 2008 22:21:25 Ghirai wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm running 7.0-RELEASE, i386, and KDE 3.5.8 from ports. > > Trying to install /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt gives this error: > > ... > -- Creating pyqtconfig.py... > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qt/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtcanvas/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtnetwork/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qttable/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtxml/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtui/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtsql/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtext/Makefile > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak -e 's|mkspecs/freebsd-g++| > share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++|' -e 's|CC = cc|CC = cc|' -e 's|CXX = c++|CXX > = c++|' -e 's|LINK = c++|LINK = > c++|' /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtgl/Makefile > sed: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.4/qtgl/Makefile: > No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-qt. > *** Error code 1 > > > Any ideas? > > Ports tree is up to date. > > If i disable OpenGL support in make config, it gets past that error, but hangs sucking up CPU here: ===> Building for py25-qt-3.17.4_1,2 c++ -c -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -W -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.5 -I/usr/local/share/qt/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ -o sipqtcmodule.o sipqtcmodule.cpp -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 23:01:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AFB106566B for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA088FC1D for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LN1GKa056705 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:01:07 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721230106.GA16001@thought.org> References: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: another beginner-type question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:01:08 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 03:09:46PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:51:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > i could do this kwik and dirty, and type in/fix any anomalies later, but > > it would be nice to know. > > > > I've already tried > > > > 1, /
d > > > > and a other such. zip. > > % sed -e "1,/
/d" < junk.in > junk.out > im taking this off-list so i dont show any further ignorance.... but i've tried everything SED i can think of without direct success [1], but want to know *how* to delete from
to EOF. sometimes sed spat out stderr messages, usually failed by printing the file to stdout. so when you have time, can you please show me? gary [1]. Indirectly, i used -e '/<\/CENTER>/d' (&c) to get rid of thee last 3 lines. Beats vi'ing 70+ times! -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 23:08:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362591065687 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1A58FC1F for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6LN8kpw056732 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:08:37 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080721230836.GB16001@thought.org> References: <20080721195125.GA7725@thought.org> <20080721200945.GA2692@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20080721203257.GA9748@thought.org> <20080721211353.GA3021@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721211353.GA3021@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: another beginner-type question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:08:38 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 04:13:53PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 01:32:57PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 03:09:46PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:51:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > I've already tried > > > > > > > > 1, /
d > > > > > > > > and a other such. zip. > > > > > > % sed -e "1,/
/d" < junk.in > junk.out > > > > thanks, david. i was havinf cofffee when i thought "sed!" > > but was way off on the syntax. > > Not so far off, just one more / and you were there. i'm more used to ed,ex, sh and some simple[r] tool. but the thing with gsed --- and REALLY the java;) got me going. i *did* try the man page.... that was when i really threw in the towel. gary > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 23:32:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCA51065684 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE468FC0A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from localhost ([70.107.188.207]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K4D00GYIQPA54A5@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:31:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:31:58 -0400 From: David Gurvich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Default config for claws-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:32:23 -0000 I like to use claws-mail with the bogofilter plugin as it is fast and simple. The package is built without bogofilter and I wondered why that is so. Does having claws-mail built with bogofilter conflict with something else? Or is this a legacy of the time when the plugin was a separate port? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 23:49:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209661065679 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.picone@deakin.edu.au) Received: from mx-f-00-ext.its.deakin.edu.au (mx-f-00-ext.its.deakin.edu.au [128.184.136.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2748FC1C for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.picone@deakin.edu.au) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,226,1215352800"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="20384364" Received: from 128-184-148-58.its.deakin.edu.au (HELO [128.184.148.58]) ([128.184.148.58]) by mx-f-00-int.its.deakin.edu.au with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 09:19:42 +1000 Message-ID: <4885198B.2010609@deakin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:19:39 +1000 From: Mark Picone User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@celestial.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <488493D7.4030904@ariel.ru> <20080721164524.GA9388@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <20080721164524.GA9388@ayn.mi.celestial.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9C02A5E980C25834B51E91E1" Cc: Subject: Re: Looking for 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9C02A5E980C25834B51E91E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, I have used 3ware RAID controller cards in FreeBSD 6/7 without any proble= ms for a few years. Although some of these cards are 64-Bit (PCI-X) they also work perfectly = well in 32bit (PCI) slots. See 'man twe' and 'man twa' for more information on support for these und= er FreeBSD. Cheers, Mark Picone, Trainee Unix Administrator Information Technology Services Division Phone: 03 5227 8602 International: +61 3 5227 0806 Fax: 03 5227 8799 International: +61 3 5227 8799 Email: mark.picone@deakin.edu.au Website: http://www.deakin.edu.au Bill Campbell wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008, Leonid Satanovsky wrote: >> Hi, people! >> Does annybody know some >> 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0? >> >> [we have an old mailserver with only 32-bit PCI slots in it] >=20 > I suspect that 3ware would be a good choice although I have not > used these with FreeBSD. >=20 > Bill --------------enig9C02A5E980C25834B51E91E1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiFGY4ACgkQT0rbm+uXW2xGSwCgpCIQNLxaEkPjrbvK+XoPU6qr 6ogAnjmAS8hxcJNq+3QeN3bS5SmSTbMp =UqCe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9C02A5E980C25834B51E91E1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 00:09:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F4C106566C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YB=2e89e256@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854D78FC0A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YB=2e89e256@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4A816429A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1535523E498 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:57:45 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722005745.1d0c24fc@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> References: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Default config for claws-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:09:46 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:31:58 -0400 David Gurvich wrote: > I like to use claws-mail with the bogofilter plugin as it is fast and > simple. The package is built without bogofilter and I wondered why > that is so. Does having claws-mail built with bogofilter conflict > with something else? Or is this a legacy of the time when the plugin > was a separate port? The bogofilter option brings in a dependency on bogofilter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 00:24:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9583B106566C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from human2205@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D558FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from human2205@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so7359751hue.8 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:24:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=4CHvfIjIT/D4tIqQKZDBPCCAD/fq6M2qqTv0SywApjQ=; b=CenprtMUN7MGtLAIhoE/mitIUWB8IZwE58pelghmM5Vm9EdQTsQM5pX7VbICp1hHKg wEJY6QH5kCYX6zcLUC8nBJY0Ccvhxkejg+s+hqvIWGRuDJZWzp/mknwaEMXcGlSlATLN 2RIoBeAnslMv3+BLwEmLKuFeq5PMjDnZRumxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cFX0VPX2bjIvqB2XXD3W5WYAb+Y8WhTTQuKuAtSEjvLCujQ7MrdApgB179BJ9dNF6X SDTM1hn8eXmkZ6r6TIvUS7zJg0sPt8jaPZcacCnUw1o0oHxGWIL47nHa6jMtF9UUiDsx 62hg17DDKaPlAc0nDDgOzViotUQEs9QxzYFiQ= Received: by 10.125.129.19 with SMTP id g19mr289724mkn.111.1216685317829; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.157.4 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:08:37 -0400 From: J.C. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Very Beginning CVSup Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:24:39 -0000 I'm a beginner with FreeBSD and somewhat intermediate with Unix-like operating systems in general, so please bear the nature of my questions. I have some questions about CVSup that seem unclear from the handbook. Right now I'm sticking with RELENG_7_0; I intend to track -STABLE once I get the hang of CVSup, make buildworld, etc. I understand that the supfile contains the list of *default settings (*default tag=RELENG_7_0 etc.) followed by the list of "collections". The "Using CVSup" page suggests simply using the src-all collection. I understand that when tracking -STABLE I want to update the ports collection before running make buildworld; is the ports collection included in the "base source tree" (i.e. does src-all imply ports-all) or should ports-all be included as a separate line beneath src-all? The "Using the Ports Collection" page in the handbook says to make sure /usr/ports is empty before running csup because otherwise "csup will not prune removed patch files." Isn't this what the "delete" in the supfile (as in the line *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress) is for? Do I have to clean /usr/ports every time I run csup or just the first time? If I don't care about encrypted transmission or HTTP vs. CVS protocols, are there any compelling reasons to use portsnap instead of CVSup/csup? Thank you very much for your help. - Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 00:38:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5EB106566B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-152.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-152.bluehost.com [67.222.39.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EE1F8FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 25683 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jul 2008 00:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2008 00:38:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=MkKEohafsOyovWyPZWunV9i0wmGTzpU7h+dISjLl9KVL/9ypr4Wx0iOTiMH8LOCYFQ6VZ0UZrRkVc9Z9XK40k4pytD23D1QKbgnZ3mDwL4AE46n2n42B+WrzkjhI/kZo; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KL5tf-0001dw-Ph for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:38:32 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:32:38 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:32:38 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722003238.GB18067@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> <20080721150201.GA41544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721150201.GA41544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:38:34 -0000 --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:02:01AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:40:20AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 02:55:22PM +0700, OutBackDingo wrote: > > >=20 > > > > How many Zimbabwe dollars, I wonder? This seems to give the finest= =20 > > > > measurement for approximations to zero... > > >=20 > > > I think this is a bit uncalled for, it might have been in a candid > > > manner, but there are alot of locations in the world using FreeBSD > > > quite effectively where most people live on less then a dollar a day > > > Id also like to note your so called US dollar isnt fairing so well. > > > Pretty soon might it also be worth 0.00. I do think we should try not= to > > > insult the ecomonics of other countries=20 > >=20 > > The US Dollar hasn't really been worth anything since 1975 at the lates= t. > > People just haven't figured that out yet. >=20 > Neither have most of the things people are buying with it. > So, it all evens out. > It people only bought what they really need, the dollar would > be high, and the economy would be totally stagnant. Who knows, > maybe that would be better than what we have now. That wouldn't solve the problem of the US dollar being a fiat currency. Basically, under a fiat currency, trying to financially plan for the future is a matter of gambling the economy won't blow up in your face in the interim -- which is anything but a sure bet. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Jeff Henager: "If the average user can put a CD in and boot the system and follow the prompts, he can install and use Linux. If he can't do that simple task, he doesn't need to be around technology." --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiFKqYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWxWACgz/pNC3KNCe83cbxMtmzccRV5 iJYAn3OwAeHz3NGNNjgLp9gIKub+26fQ =mI7h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 01:24:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA21A106566B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977A08FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m6M1Oj5c014641; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:24:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:24:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200807220124.m6M1Oj3t014640@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:24:47 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:56:10 +0300 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >Στις Monday 21 July 2008 15:41:01 ο/η DA Forsyth έγραψε: >> From: Achilleas Mantzios >> >> > Hi, i have had various crashes and segfaults in the last hot days >> > (room temp about 30 deg C). I tried to monitor CPU temp with mbmon, >> > which shows a very big value in COU temperature: >> >> > I also opened the case in order to get ventilated with fresh air from >> > the room. >> >> Actually, that doesn't work, your components will get hotter. This >> is because the case provides a through flow environment where air is >> forced to flow over most of the components most of the time. By >> opening the case you remove the force, and now have to rely on >> convection. >> >> What you want to do is make sure all the fans are running freely. >> Especially the processor fan. It may have stopped silently an dthat >> would definitely cause crashes. >> >> A fan at the front of the case blowing IN is more effective than one >> on the back blowing out, so if there isn't one on the front, add one. >> The 80 to 120mm ones can be very quiet and some can control their own >> speed if your motherboard cannot do it. If one can blow in the front >> and directly on the harddrives then that is a bonus, cool harddrives >> last longer. >> >> The basic idea of a case is to have air coming in the front and >> exiting at the rear. So make sure all your fans are blowing in the >> right direction. >> >> My office goes to 38C in summer, and all 5 computers just keep on >> going, using the principles above. I fitted a fan to the UPS as well >> (-: >> >> >My box has 3 fans, one on the case blowing from outside=>inside, >one in the power supply and one on the CPU. > >In the evening, i will have the case/board inside blown/cleaned with air, >i am gonna close the case, and i am gonna tune BIOS to fail-safe settings. When blowing the dust out, be sure to put the nozzle up against the edges of the cooling vanes on any coolers, especially the one for the CPU(s). Often such vanes are very close together and trap dust easily that will not be blown out when just cleaning the case and the motherboard. My portable, a Dell Inpsiron XPS, was running in a reduced-speed mode with COU temperatures in the high 70s C to low 80s C, but was also doing frequent emergency shutdowns at 89.5 C. After replacing two of the three fans and blowing out visible dust, the temperatures were reduced by about 15-18 C. Replacing the third fan brought the temperatures down another 2-3 C. Blowing the dust out of the cooling vanes brought them down another 6-8 C. > >Apart from that, i would like to have a reliable tool to monitor temperature. >Is there anything in mind? As was suggested earlier, you should first post your CPU make and model. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 01:27:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45570106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YC=3c734ee5@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDD28FC0C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YC=3c734ee5@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A65B164238 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B86723E4A0 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:11:16 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722021116.0f4e4e91@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> References: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Very Beginning CVSup Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:27:51 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:08:37 -0400 J.C. wrote: > I'm a beginner with FreeBSD and somewhat intermediate with Unix-like > operating systems in general, so please bear the nature of my > questions. I have some questions about CVSup that seem unclear from > the handbook. Right now I'm sticking with RELENG_7_0; I intend to > track -STABLE once I get the hang of CVSup, make buildworld, etc. You need to understand CVSup, make buildworld, to track RELENG_7_0 (and successors) too, are you sure you want to track a development branch? > I understand that the supfile contains the list of *default settings > (*default tag=RELENG_7_0 etc.) followed by the list of "collections". > The "Using CVSup" page suggests simply using the src-all collection. I > understand that when tracking -STABLE I want to update the ports > collection before running make buildworld; is the ports collection > included in the "base source tree" (i.e. does src-all imply ports-all) No > or should ports-all be included as a separate line beneath src-all? You can do that, but I think most people use separate files, so they can be updated independently. There are multiple sample files for this reason. > The "Using the Ports Collection" page in the handbook says to make > sure /usr/ports is empty before running csup because otherwise "csup > will not prune removed patch files." Isn't this what the "delete" in > the supfile (as in the line *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix > compress) is for? It's a bit subtle, csup has to establish a baseline in its metadata for it to be fully confident about which files it can delete, this can be done starting with an empty or fully syncronized tree. There's also a separate issue that it never deletes files which have never been under CVS. > Do I have to clean /usr/ports every time I run csup > or just the first time? Just the first. > If I don't care about encrypted transmission or HTTP vs. CVS > protocols, are there any compelling reasons to use portsnap instead of > CVSup/csup? portsnap is much faster. And since the fetch part doesn't affect the ports tree it can be done safely from a crontab, which speeds things up even more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 01:30:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CF81065673 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FAB8FC13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so484095wra.27 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=ipEp15yIDqQU+lmwHxMwzj/Rp38uYWZVFtav38GjgqM=; b=hFaavufOCuF9xJ17UhMRoJbg9CD2tSCgBxqpWDpGthGLhyv178UTrA8KF5XXsFZd4C 5MgdmUSO+V1kQjnbWeRQfEo2XuQX8CEqLPrxAJKFIcXv5vRk/A5BtJJsocnSlOLgVYNP H7kLueHQcKI3N6GGGiUlFQSqHrIEEnhJ/tUME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ivNmVYojCpdcd7Prl1x7WRK7bfiiz/EttC0EQe9H/LTVzfK1474aj1f0i0g2RmzUa1 S5udo4bpG3Cw/VR/Hzgeesfog8E3PHfb2dVaFtjGUw6js/dn+Zb73E+9tWDze5X1AQ6h TVjvJu+24H82IQxf+eWG63UerF4++oEF5XshE= Received: by 10.90.96.15 with SMTP id t15mr652932agb.116.1216690256590; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.33.17 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20807211830y30acdf5cyacc05161a4268b04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:56 -0400 From: Jim To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: DNS troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:30:58 -0000 I'm trying to get a machine working, but it can't seem to handle DNS requests. I've just done a 7.0 install (from CD, usually I use net, but it wasn't connecting to anything, now I know why). I have a machine with two built in NICs on the motheroboard, one using nfe the other using bge. When I try to connect to anything, I get a "cannot resolve host error". Both are set up to be static, 192.168.1.84, and bge is 192.168.1.86. I have tried both "192.168.1.1" (the router, which points to the ISPs DNS) and "4.2.2.1" in the /etc/resolve.conf file, each separately, not both at once. The machine can ping both of these addresses and gets a decent to rapid return time (~.3ms for the former, <20ms for the latter) Neither works on this machine. Both work on the other FreeBSD and Windows machines in the house. I have the machine set to dual boot, and DNS works fine under Windows. I tried DHCP without an luck. The previous install on this machine just worked. What I *SUSPECT* is the biggest clue (my guess, check an rc.d file, which?) During boot up, after showing the network interfaces, until showing the login prompt, the terminal gets spammed with "b: not found". Up to this point: -> I installed it once with a boot only CD and it worked fine, but being absent minded, I reinstalled thinking it would be the quickest/easiest way to fix an issue, and the install I had wasn't really 'set-up' yet. -> The DNS checker (bind?) wasn't working properly during the first reinstall. Sadly, I found this out after reformatting the partitions. -> I re-burned the CD with CD1 (not boot only), and tried again - DNS still didn't work. -> I installed from CD. Process for current install: -> I installed i386/7.0 from Install Disk 1, minimal install + dict, man, info and doc -> I set the root password during the install -> I updated the /etc/ssh* files to the files from my old system (I can ssh into the computer fine) -> I copied over the rc.conf and modified the NIC and startup entries (see below) -> I added if_tap_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf (this was AFTER the DNS issues had started) -> set the values in /etc/resolve.conf -> I copied /etc/supfile-ports and /etc/supfile-src from the old install. These are pretty boring supfiles for ports and src respectively. -> I added my non-root account (so I could ssh in) That's it. Any ideas? My suspicion is that my next step will be 'rebuild bind from within /usr/src wherever it resides in there'. However, since it wasn't working during install or now, I suspect that won't be enough. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton /etc/resolve.conf ======================================== domain var-dev.net nameserver 4.2.2.1 nameserver 4.2.2.2 nameserver 4.2.2.3 ======================================== /etc/rc.conf ======================================== hostname="elrond.var-dev.net" ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.1.86 netmask 255.255.255.0" #ifconfig_re0_alias0="192.168.1.85 netmask 255.255.255.255" defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" #for QEmu ifconfig_nfe0="up polling" autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" autobridge_bridge0="tap0 nfe0" cloned_interfaces="bridge0" # the bridge gets the IP #ifconfig_bridge0="inet 10.10.10.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_bridge0="inet 192.168.1.84 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_bridge0_alias0="192.168.1.85 netmask 255.255.255.0" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" #ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" #cupsd_enable="YES" #moused_enable="YES" #for beryl and hardware autodetect stuff #compat5_enable="YES" #dbus_enable="YES" #polkitd_enable="YES" #hald_enable="YES" #gdm_enable="YES" bsdstats_enable="YES" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Mar 25 08:22:19 2008 keymap="us.iso" ======================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 02:08:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9D91065675 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2028FC14 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl10-74.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.137.74]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m6M285mH010831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:08:11 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6M284sP011187; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:08:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6M2838E011186; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:08:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "J.C." References: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:08:03 +0300 In-Reply-To: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> (J. C.'s message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:08:37 -0400") Message-ID: <87r69msmbg.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m6M285mH010831 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.791, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very Beginning CVSup Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:08:22 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:08:37 -0400, "J.C." wrote: > I'm a beginner with FreeBSD and somewhat intermediate with Unix-like > operating systems in general, so please bear the nature of my > questions. I have some questions about CVSup that seem unclear from > the handbook. Right now I'm sticking with RELENG_7_0; I intend to > track -STABLE once I get the hang of CVSup, make buildworld, etc. > > I understand that the supfile contains the list of *default settings > (*default tag=RELENG_7_0 etc.) followed by the list of "collections". > The "Using CVSup" page suggests simply using the src-all collection. I > understand that when tracking -STABLE I want to update the ports > collection before running make buildworld; Not necessarily. If you are tracking a -STABLE branch, the rule is that "ports compiled on earlier builds should work in later builds". There are very few exceptions that may require a rebuild of ports, but the FreeBSD team tries to avoid those if at all possible. > is the ports collection included in the "base source tree" (i.e. does > src-all imply ports-all) or should ports-all be included as a separate > line beneath src-all? It's probably a good idea to use a separate `supfile' for src/ and ports/. There are a few tiny but important differences between the "base system" (the src-all collection) and the ports. One of the differences is that the base system is "branched". This means that the branch name "RELENG_7" carries an important and well defined meaning for "src-all". There are no branches in ports, on the other hand. A consequence of this is that using the same supfile with the option "*default tag=RELENG_7_0" may do moderately surprising to your ports tree, like deleting it altogether. When CVSup fails to find a particular collection in the tag/branch you asked, and the supfile has enabled the "*default delete use-rel-suffix" option too, it _deletes_ the files that don't exist on the requested tag/branch. To avoid surprises like these, you can use two supfiles: one for the "src-all" collection, and one for the "ports-all" collection. > The "Using the Ports Collection" page in the handbook says to make > sure /usr/ports is empty before running csup because otherwise "csup > will not prune removed patch files." Isn't this what the "delete" in > the supfile (as in the line *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix > compress) is for? Do I have to clean /usr/ports every time I run csup > or just the first time? Probably not. It's been a while that I haven't used CVSup for ports/, so someone with more recent experience should answer this. > If I don't care about encrypted transmission or HTTP vs. CVS > protocols, are there any compelling reasons to use portsnap instead of > CVSup/csup? Speed. Portsnap doesn't have to worry about tags, branches, and CVS file revisions in the common case, so it can usually finish before CVSup has even finished uploading the current file versions. I just updated my /usr/ports tree with portsnap, and it took all of 50 seconds to fetch and apply 169 patches: | root@kobe:/root# \time portsnap fetch update | Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. | Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... done. | Fetching snapshot metadata... done. | Updating from Sat Jul 19 18:10:14 EEST 2008 to Tue Jul 22 03:17:39 EEST 2008. | Fetching 3 metadata patches.. done. | Applying metadata patches... done. | Fetching 0 metadata files... done. | Fetching 169 patches.....10....20....30....40....50....60....70....80....90....100....110....120....130....140....150....160.... done. | Applying patches... done. | Fetching 22 new ports or files... done. | Removing old files and directories... done. | Extracting new files: | [lots of file paths snipped] | /usr/ports/x11/xloadimage/ | Building new INDEX files... done. | 68.64 real 12.99 user 24.40 sys | root@kobe:/root# That's fast enough for me :-) Having said that, there are compelling reasons to use CVSup for ports if you are a developer who wants to make local patches for some of the ports, or if you are maintaining a large number of ports. In this case, having a local CVS mirror of the ports, and checking out from CVS may be useful, because you can see the history of the ports, browse through patches committed, look at port changelogs, or even maintain a locally patched /usr/ports tree in semi-offline mode. That mode of updating is useful too. It all depends on what you are planning to do with your /usr/ports tree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 02:27:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B582F106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2723A8FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl10-74.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.137.74]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m6M2QqpF011594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:58 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6M2QqD3053687; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6M2QqS3053686; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jim References: <80f4f2b20807211830y30acdf5cyacc05161a4268b04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20807211830y30acdf5cyacc05161a4268b04@mail.gmail.com> (Jim's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:56 -0400") Message-ID: <87mykaslg4.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m6M2QqpF011594 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.791, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:27:06 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:56 -0400, Jim wrote: > I'm trying to get a machine working, but it can't seem to handle DNS > requests. I've just done a 7.0 install (from CD, usually I use net, > but it wasn't connecting to anything, now I know why). > > I have a machine with two built in NICs on the motheroboard, one using > nfe the other using bge. When I try to connect to anything, I get a > "cannot resolve host error". Both are set up to be static, > 192.168.1.84, and bge is 192.168.1.86. I have tried both "192.168.1.1" > (the router, which points to the ISPs DNS) and "4.2.2.1" in the > /etc/resolve.conf file, each separately, not both at once. The machine > can ping both of these addresses and gets a decent to rapid return > time (~.3ms for the former, <20ms for the latter) Neither works on > this machine. Both work on the other FreeBSD and Windows machines in > the house. I have the machine set to dual boot, and DNS works fine > under Windows. I hope you didn't create a "resolve.conf" file, because it is called "resolv.conf" without a final "e", i.e.: root@kobe:/root# ls -ld /etc/resol* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 35 Jul 22 01:36 /etc/resolv.conf root@kobe:/root# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 03:01:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEB4106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YC=3c734ee5@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6068FC0C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YC=3c734ee5@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEC623E49E for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:01:30 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722040130.32351cf5@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <87r69msmbg.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> <87r69msmbg.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Very Beginning CVSup Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:01:35 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:08:03 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:08:37 -0400, "J.C." > wrote: > > The "Using the Ports Collection" page in the handbook says to make > > sure /usr/ports is empty before running csup because otherwise "csup > > will not prune removed patch files." Isn't this what the "delete" in > > the supfile (as in the line *default release=cvs delete > > use-rel-suffix compress) is for? Do I have to clean /usr/ports > > every time I run csup or just the first time? > > Probably not. It's been a while that I haven't used CVSup for ports/, > so someone with more recent experience should answer this. The issue isn't specific to ports. The same thing can happen with the base system too when you adopt an existing tree that's older than the CVS version. Deletions made in CVS between the two points on the branch don't get made locally, because they rely on the relevant csup list file. To be safe you either start from an empty tree, or do an intermediate sync to the point on the branch that matches the local copy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 04:34:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381C2106571A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevenschlansker@berkeley.edu) Received: from smtp-out1.berkeley.edu (smtp-out1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BC48FC1A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevenschlansker@berkeley.edu) Received: from adsl-75-18-221-190.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net ([75.18.221.190] helo=[192.168.1.113]) by fe6.calmail with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (auth plain:stevenschlansker@berkeley.edu) (envelope-from ) id 1KL9Kj-0000qv-Ki for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:18:43 -0700 Message-Id: From: Steven Schlansker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:18:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Subject: Using ccd with zfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:34:00 -0000 Hello -questions, I have a FreeBSD ZFS storage system working wonderfully with 7.0. It's set up as three 3-disk RAIDZs -triplets of 500, 400, and 300GB drives. I recently purchased three 750GB drives and would like to convert to using a RAIDZ2. As ZFS has no restriping capabilities yet, I will have to nuke the zpool from orbit and make a new one. I would like to verify my methodology against your experience to see if what I wish to do is reasonable: I plan to first take 2 of the 750GB drives and make an unreplicated 1.5TB zpool as a temporary storage. Since ZFS doesn't seem to have the ability to create zpools in degraded mode (with missing drives) I plan to use iSCSI to create two additional drives (backed by /dev/ zero) to fake having two extra drives, relying on ZFS's RAIDZ2 protection to keep everything running despite the fact that two of the drives are horribly broken ;) To make these 500, 400, and 300GB drives useful, I would like to stitch them together using ccd. I would use it as 500+300 = 800GB and 400+400=800GB That way, in the end I would have 750 x 3 500 + 300 x3 400 + 400 x 1 400 + 200 + 200 x 1 as the members in my RAIDZ2 group. I understand that this is slightly less reliable than having "real" drives for all the members, but I am not interested in purchasing 5 more 750GB drives. I'll replace the drives as they fail. I am wondering if there are any logistical problems. The three parts I am worried about are: 1) Are there any problems with using an iSCSI /dev/zero drive to fake drives for creation of a new zpool, with the intent to replace them later with proper drives? 2) Are there any problems with using CCD under zpool? Should I stripe or concatenate? Will the startup scripts (either by design or less likely intelligently) decide to start CCD before zfs? The zpool should start without me interfering, correct? 3) I hear a lot about how you should use whole disks so ZFS can enable write caching for improved performance. Do I need to do anything special to let the system know that it's OK to enable the write cache? And persist across reboots? Any other potential pitfalls? Also, I'd like to confirm that there's no way to do this pure ZFS-like - I read the documentation but it doesn't seem to have support for nesting vdevs (which would let me do this without ccd) Thanks for any information that you might be able to provide, Steven Schlansker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 04:50:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2524106566B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from ns.mahan.org (ns.mahan.org [67.116.10.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6248FC19 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Received: from widowmaker.local (crowTrobot [67.116.10.140]) by ns.mahan.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6M4SmWE010219; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mahan@mahan.org) Message-ID: <48856128.6050304@mahan.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:25:12 -0700 From: Patrick Mahan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim References: <80f4f2b20807211830y30acdf5cyacc05161a4268b04@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20807211830y30acdf5cyacc05161a4268b04@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:50:23 -0000 Jim presented these words - circa 7/21/08 6:30 PM-> > I'm trying to get a machine working, but it can't seem to handle DNS > requests. I've just done a 7.0 install (from CD, usually I use net, > but it wasn't connecting to anything, now I know why). > > I have a machine with two built in NICs on the motheroboard, one using > nfe the other using bge. When I try to connect to anything, I get a > "cannot resolve host error". Both are set up to be static, > 192.168.1.84, and bge is 192.168.1.86. I have tried both "192.168.1.1" > (the router, which points to the ISPs DNS) and "4.2.2.1" in the > /etc/resolve.conf file, each separately, not both at once. The machine > can ping both of these addresses and gets a decent to rapid return > time (~.3ms for the former, <20ms for the latter) Neither works on > this machine. Both work on the other FreeBSD and Windows machines in > the house. I have the machine set to dual boot, and DNS works fine > under Windows. > > I tried DHCP without an luck. The previous install on this machine just worked. > > What I *SUSPECT* is the biggest clue (my guess, check an rc.d file, which?) > During boot up, after showing the network interfaces, until showing > the login prompt, the terminal gets spammed with "b: not found". > > Up to this point: > -> I installed it once with a boot only CD and it worked fine, but > being absent minded, I reinstalled thinking it would be the > quickest/easiest way to fix an issue, and the install I had wasn't > really 'set-up' yet. > -> The DNS checker (bind?) wasn't working properly during the first > reinstall. Sadly, I found this out after reformatting the partitions. > -> I re-burned the CD with CD1 (not boot only), and tried again - DNS > still didn't work. > -> I installed from CD. > > Process for current install: > -> I installed i386/7.0 from Install Disk 1, minimal install + dict, > man, info and doc > -> I set the root password during the install > -> I updated the /etc/ssh* files to the files from my old system (I > can ssh into the computer fine) > -> I copied over the rc.conf and modified the NIC and startup entries > (see below) > -> I added if_tap_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf (this was AFTER the > DNS issues had started) > -> set the values in /etc/resolve.conf > -> I copied /etc/supfile-ports and /etc/supfile-src from the old > install. These are pretty boring supfiles for ports and src > respectively. > -> I added my non-root account (so I could ssh in) > > That's it. > > Any ideas? My suspicion is that my next step will be 'rebuild bind > from within /usr/src wherever it resides in there'. However, since it > wasn't working during install or now, I suspect that won't be enough. > Why do you think 'bind' is the problem? You are not using bind, you are using the DNS resolver (which is the client side of Bind). Can you reach each of the nodes listed in resolv.conf? via ping? via traceroute? Have you tried to issue a 'dig 4.2.2.1 name' to see if you can reach the DNS server? I would first ensure that you have basic network connectivity, once that is confirmed, that you have access to the DNS servers. But your problem is not locally with Bind. Patrick Mahan ex-Window Washer > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > > /etc/resolve.conf > ======================================== > domain var-dev.net > nameserver 4.2.2.1 > nameserver 4.2.2.2 > nameserver 4.2.2.3 > ======================================== > > /etc/rc.conf > ======================================== > hostname="elrond.var-dev.net" > ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.1.86 netmask 255.255.255.0" > #ifconfig_re0_alias0="192.168.1.85 netmask 255.255.255.255" > defaultrouter="192.168.1.1" > > #for QEmu > ifconfig_nfe0="up polling" > autobridge_interfaces="bridge0" > autobridge_bridge0="tap0 nfe0" > cloned_interfaces="bridge0" > # the bridge gets the IP > #ifconfig_bridge0="inet 10.10.10.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_bridge0="inet 192.168.1.84 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_bridge0_alias0="192.168.1.85 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > sshd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > linux_enable="YES" > #ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpd_enable="YES" > #cupsd_enable="YES" > #moused_enable="YES" > > #for beryl and hardware autodetect stuff > #compat5_enable="YES" > #dbus_enable="YES" > #polkitd_enable="YES" > #hald_enable="YES" > #gdm_enable="YES" > bsdstats_enable="YES" > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Mar 25 08:22:19 2008 > keymap="us.iso" > ======================================== > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 05:03:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CF8106568C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7618FC28 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from stealth.jnielsen.net (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6M53TJP012600; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:03:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:03:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?iso-8859-1?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807220103.27950.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Steven Schlansker Subject: Re: Using ccd with zfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:03:32 -0000 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:18:31 am Steven Schlansker wrote: > Hello -questions, > I have a FreeBSD ZFS storage system working wonderfully with 7.0. > It's set up as three 3-disk RAIDZs -triplets of 500, 400, and 300GB > drives. > > I recently purchased three 750GB drives and would like to convert to > using a RAIDZ2. As ZFS has no restriping capabilities yet, I will > have to nuke the zpool from orbit and make a new one. I would like to > verify my methodology against your experience to see if what I wish to > do is reasonable: > > I plan to first take 2 of the 750GB drives and make an unreplicated > 1.5TB zpool as a temporary storage. Since ZFS doesn't seem to have > the ability to create zpools in degraded mode (with missing drives) I > plan to use iSCSI to create two additional drives (backed by /dev/ > zero) to fake having two extra drives, relying on ZFS's RAIDZ2 > protection to keep everything running despite the fact that two of the > drives are horribly broken ;) > > To make these 500, 400, and 300GB drives useful, I would like to > stitch them together using ccd. I would use it as 500+300 = 800GB and > 400+400=800GB > > That way, in the end I would have > 750 x 3 > 500 + 300 x3 > 400 + 400 x 1 > 400 + 200 + 200 x 1 > as the members in my RAIDZ2 group. I understand that this is slightly > less reliable than having "real" drives for all the members, but I am > not interested in purchasing 5 more 750GB drives. I'll replace the > drives as they fail. > > I am wondering if there are any logistical problems. The three parts > I am worried about are: > > 1) Are there any problems with using an iSCSI /dev/zero drive to fake > drives for creation of a new zpool, with the intent to replace them > later with proper drives? I don't know about the iSCSI approach but I have successfully created a degraded zpool using md and a sparse file in place of the missing disk. Worked like a charm and I was able to transfer everything to the zpool before nuking the real device (which I had been using for temporary storage) and replacing the md file with it. You can create a sparse file using dd: dd if=/dev/zero of=sparsefile bs=512 seek=(size of the fake device in 512-byte blocks) count=0 Turn it into a device node using mdconfig: mdconfig -a -t vnode -f sparsefile Then create your zpool using the /dev/md0 device (unless the mdconfig operation returns a different node number). The size of the sparse file should not be bigger than the size of the real device you plan to replace it with. If using GEOM (which I think you should, see below), be sure to remember to subtract 512 bytes for each level of each provider (GEOM modules store their metadata in the last sector of each provider so that space is unavailable for use). To be on the safe side you can whack a few KB off. You can't remove the fake device from a running zpool but the first time you reboot it will be absent and the zpool will come up degraded. > 2) Are there any problems with using CCD under zpool? Should I stripe > or concatenate? Will the startup scripts (either by design or less > likely intelligently) decide to start CCD before zfs? The zpool > should start without me interfering, correct? I would suggest using gconcat rather than CCD. Since it's a GEOM module (and you will have remembered to load it via /boot/loader.conf) it will initialize its devices before ZFS starts. It's also much easier to set up than CCD. If you are concatenating two devices of the same size you could consider using gstripe instead, but think about the topology of your drives and controllers and the likely usage patterns your final setup will create to decide if that's a good idea. > 3) I hear a lot about how you should use whole disks so ZFS can enable > write caching for improved performance. Do I need to do anything > special to let the system know that it's OK to enable the write > cache? And persist across reboots? Not that I know of. As I understand it ZFS _assumes_ it's working with whole disks so since it uses its own i/o scheduler performance can be degraded for anything sharing a physical device with a ZFS slice. > Any other potential pitfalls? Also, I'd like to confirm that there's > no way to do this pure ZFS-like - I read the documentation but it > doesn't seem to have support for nesting vdevs (which would let me do > this without ccd) You're right, you can't do this with ZFS alone. Good thing FreeBSD is so versatile. :) JN > Thanks for any information that you might be able to provide, > Steven Schlansker > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 05:07:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC8106567D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omar@heedme.com) Received: from obstinate.heedme.com (obstinate.heedme.com [64.194.244.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C3F8FC1C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omar@heedme.com) Received: from obstinate.heedme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by obstinate.heedme.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6M4qwEe071901 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (omar@localhost) by obstinate.heedme.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6M4qw85071898 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:52:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Omar Siddique To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: USB audio CDs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:07:32 -0000 I have a USB DVD-RW drive that I'd like to use to rip music under 6.3-RELEASE, but I don't have a /dev/acd0 (and can't get "grip" to work from /dev/cd0). /dev/cd0 shows up fine, but audio CDs log errors and "grip" (from ports) can't do much with /dev/cd0. grip is able to see the disc table of contents for the CD, but attempting to rip only generates errors: 006: Could not read any data from drive (repeats per track) Repeatable for different CDs. I was able to mount a cd9660 disc from this drive without a problem. I've previously done this (using grip) with ATA/SATA optical drives of various sorts, as well as used various USB mass-storage devices without any problems, but this is my first shot under *BSD at getting audio off a USB optical drive. I read through the USB related man pages, FB handbook, and googled without finding any answers... Would appreciate any advice! I have all of these in my running kernel: device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device cd # scsi cd for cd-r/burner on USB device atapicam I tried it both w/ and w/o atapicam. Attaching device with audio CD loaded logs the following: Jul 20 01:28:20 mine kernel: umass0: Sony DRX-500UL, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0: 40.000MB/s transfers Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: cd0: cd present [198012 x 2048 byte records] Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Illegal mode for this track Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 3 5 7b 0 0 1 0 Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error Jul 20 01:28:30 mine kernel: (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (etc...) Thanks! -omar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 05:26:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21F31065673 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsmtkk@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE19E8FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsmtkk@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2033065rvf.43 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:26:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ee9lIS9iSXTVFfwsqbJw2CUCqKl8hAajWMuugTC2NXA=; b=YR3RevTBuQe1vPhQrza0OyI5FqK3AGHGJ5Nj8aib6WyLsF3Tgj2Tk9pT6+xBoX3Clk d8iTNro1xHYNEOLnWlSb+caF0sCRJ8lbiWvaANlNMlfAuPpba03Ni3/bjE8SZ7aBtjmU hQxRUOAi/Ki3jQw8bO5jtT3m6d5bX5H61dyGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bbmWF6M+NIDhnHR21HZ5CREaCPYL6k3neEFg3oS5ht31jlegDmXrKuU813sK6nMjVQ CJI6re8XU7YvuWzlMYeq4epYEtACy1kyMmwvelSRec5eqcptOf3/zERKliDAP+babpG4 K61jWYrH6C3tV2IeHBxWxz2RHCyymEybkR3hQ= Received: by 10.115.76.1 with SMTP id d1mr3420251wal.196.1216704407334; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.86.15 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bae2c430807212226h2e303f3h88d6aeb7d68116c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:26:47 +0900 From: Hashimoto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <48846345.4060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6bae2c430807210220r467fb25dj29b0185e1595b282@mail.gmail.com> <48846345.4060601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: config as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:26:48 -0000 Thanks, Matthew ! I will try it, and report again. 2008/7/21 Matthew Seaman : > Hashimoto wrote: >> >> Can I configure FreeBSD as an exit of "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel"? >> >> Let me explain it in detail. >> Both hostA and hostB have global IPv4 address. >> And hostA has global IPv6 address. >> I have installed FreeBSD 7.0 on both hostA and hostB. >> Then, I want to config "IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel" from hostB to hostA. >> Is it possible? >> > > Yes, absolutely. I have a similar configuration for my IPv6 connectivity. > There are some alternatives (stf(4), faith(4)), but this is based I what > I have. > > This is mostly in terms of what you'ld add to /etc/rc.conf on HostB -- > HostA will be similar, but addresses will be reversed in the obvious > places. > > i) Create a gif(4) interface and configure the endpoints: > > gif_interfaces="gif0" > gifconfig_gif0="hostB-ipv4-number hostA-ipv4-number" > > ii) Enable IPv6 on HostB -- I'm assuming you've assigned a /64 net block to > HostB (perhaps a tad excessive, but pretty much the > default for an allocation of a chunk of IPv6 address space.) Adjust > the prefixlen to suit. > > ipv6_enable="YES" > ipv6_defaultrouter="-interface gif0" > ipv6_default_interface="gif0" > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 prefixlen 64" > > iii) Settings on HostA are slightly different -- HostA has to be a > router, and it only wants to route the HostB block via the gif(4) > tunnel: > > ipv6_enable="YES" > ipv6_defaultrouter="hostA-ipv6-gateway-address" > ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" > > ipv6_static_routes="hostB" > ipv6_route_hostB="1234:5678:9abc:def0:: -prefixlen 64 -interface gif0" > > iv) That should be everything you need to get point to point connectivity > working. Note: it's pretty easy now to make HostB an IPv6 router and > assign IPv6 addresses to anything on the same local subnet as HostB. > In fact, you can use rtadvd(8) on HostB to make that automatic: > > ipv6_network_interfaces="auto" > ipv6_prefix_em0="1234:5678:9acb:def0" > rtadvd_enable="YES" > rtadvd_interfaces="em0" > > Then just run rtsol(8) on all the other machines that will use HostB as > their IPv6 gateway. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > > -- Hashimoto Kouki hsmtkk@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 06:39:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BA21065679 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from mailgate.neusoft.com (mailgate.neusoft.com [210.83.25.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C90D8FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from smtp.neusoft.com ([202.107.117.28]) by mailgate.neusoft.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m6L6ep4L029018; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:40:56 +0800 Received: from neusofteaf5839 ([192.168.131.63]) by smtp.neusoft.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPPSA id <0K4C003WEFWA2M@smtp.neusoft.com>; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:40:58 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:41:03 +0800 From: EdwardKing To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= Message-id: <00e401c8eafc$bf4ef4a0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <00d501c8eafa$174daff0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> <1bd550a00807202332g69a71b66j8c985dc5f61e22e5@mail.gmail.com> X-Neusoft-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Neusoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: How to change process status? 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807220943.42926.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:46 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:25:46 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Tore L= und =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > ... > > Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :( > > after kldload coretemp, i get > > [achix@panix ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C > > dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1 > > [achix@panix ~]%=20 > > The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1. >=20 > Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have? Manolis presumes you have > an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts. If > you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp. Sorry, i have a=20 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2672.74-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf29 Stepping =3D 9 Features=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x4400 So coretemp is not for me. While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to b= e updated in a fashion that seems natural.=20 [achix@panix ~]% mbmon Temp.=3D 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.=3D 3443, 0, 0 Vcore =3D 1.50, 1.81; Volt. =3D 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69 I started to trust mbmon, and i think the 1st temp must be motherboard, whi= le the 3rd CPU, and indeed the first value varies betaeen 41-42 degrees, and the third valu= e from 39, (~ 100% idle) to 45 (0% idle). So i assume the above must be right. Yesterday i had mbmon -t > mbmon.out running all night and the highest CPU = temp was at 46 deg C, while highest MB temp was at 43 deg Celsius (if the previous assumptions ab= out the interpretation of the=20 output of mbmon are correct). Both high temps happened while running periodic daily at 03:00 (which incre= ased my trust in those). All that, was after i blew the box/case inside and closed the case. If i trust those numbers and their interpretation then i must not have a te= mperature problem (anymore). Lets see how the machine behaves. There is always the other usual suspect from the memory department :) =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 07:16:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EA41065673 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380B68FC2A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1143721mue.3 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:16:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hnxIpV2juewbEZCdxBOY4noABuo4M2RZtKCYtCjGm+A=; b=urwJCX0yWvFtrzBKBYLUdaVs9u0nt6RNSzfatk4hmkSPBkVmAVWU5OPKTmWYlj2HXq Kl1AVOFYTr+SGVdfOLHa4an/q5VHLIPRy8O/awP3cpPIt7Q9rpQUV8Op5bk1R1HTFVRW kXMooI7weUDqmcwnas4wo6/xHYcOJVfuciVMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hPkuJMQSyd5IPfplKW9cJE8/ToVEhZRxP7xGoCWL4Bs3xZPpws4UVSYinfKkrjvcJh SQo/CjeskXo0Dn/En1wzQ4Y/Fe6OHYGRklr+h16Z8svULvWpFCRkfTr5nQsI0dYqCJzw J43sV4LhVi+WzDPWcSErHbUXKlzmSmDbHUjX0= Received: by 10.103.179.17 with SMTP id g17mr3266991mup.119.1216710966016; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y2sm43491006mug.1.2008.07.22.00.16.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48858932.60206@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:16:02 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807212205.02066.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4884FEDA.1060109@next.online.no> <200807220943.42926.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807220943.42926.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:16:08 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:25:46 ο/η Tore Lund έγραψε: > >> Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >> >>> ... >>> Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing :( >>> after kldload coretemp, i get >>> [achix@panix ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C >>> dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1 >>> [achix@panix ~]% >>> The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1. >>> >> Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have? Manolis presumes you have >> an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts. If >> you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp. >> > > Sorry, i have a > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2672.74-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x4400 > So coretemp is not for me. > Definitely. > While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be updated in a fashion that seems > natural. > [achix@panix ~]% mbmon > Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443, 0, 0 > Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69 > What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal. > I started to trust mbmon, and i think the 1st temp must be motherboard, while the 3rd CPU, > and indeed the first value varies betaeen 41-42 degrees, and the third value from 39, (~ 100% idle) > to 45 (0% idle). So i assume the above must be right. > Yesterday i had mbmon -t > mbmon.out running all night and the highest CPU temp was at 46 deg C, > while highest MB temp was at 43 deg Celsius (if the previous assumptions about the interpretation of the > output of mbmon are correct). > Both high temps happened while running periodic daily at 03:00 (which increased my trust in those). > All that, was after i blew the box/case inside and closed the case. > If i trust those numbers and their interpretation then i must not have a temperature problem (anymore). > Lets see how the machine behaves. > There is always the other usual suspect from the memory department :) > > For memory, I would suggest memtest86. For stressing the machine, try math/mprime in torture mode. Watch the temperatures and make sure you leave it running for a couple of hours and you don't get any errors. Usually, if you have a termperature problem it will bail out in half an hour or less. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 08:12:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DEA106566C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385C88FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so637572ywe.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:12:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; bh=zC0/+NZI6hOsKe+Sg9eH6Ugvw2vgD8ULvqPYZDuhJHQ=; b=aUdOM1qJXlKYP5t9c8cMMY08tFXrKUtA/4ta975I5EaNUIPG0Wvszi0+FRd1Q9eNTj 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FreeBSD7.0 for i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:12:52 -0000 Hi, I would really like to use valgrind on my FreeBSD machine, but.. :-) -Yony >make ===> Building for valgrind-352_7 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352' Making all in include gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/include' gmake all-am gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/include' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/include' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/include' Making all in coregrind gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind' gmake all-recursive gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind' Making all in x86 gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind/x86' gmake all-am gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind/x86' gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind/x86' gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind/x86' Making all in demangle gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind/demangle' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind/demangle' Making all in . gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable- 352/coregrind' if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./demangle -I../include -I./x86 - DVG_LIBDIR="\"/usr/local/lib/valgrind"\"-Winline -Wall -Wshadow -O -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -g -DELFSZ=32 -MT vg_mylibc.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/vg_mylibc.Tpo" -c -o vg_mylibc.o vg_mylibc.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/vg_mylibc.Tpo" ".deps/vg_mylibc.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/vg_mylibc.Tpo"; exit 1; fi In file included from vg_include.h:49, from vg_mylibc.c:33: ../include/vg_skin.h:1230: warning: type qualifiers ignored on function return type vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_kisemptysigset': vg_mylibc.c:65: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:65: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:65: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_kisfullsigset': vg_mylibc.c:74: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:74: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:74: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_ksigaddset_from_set': vg_mylibc.c:121: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:121: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:121: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_ksigdelset_from_set': vg_mylibc.c:130: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:130: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:130: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_ksignal': vg_mylibc.c:212: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:212: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:212: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_exit': vg_mylibc.c:390: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:390: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:390: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_brk': vg_mylibc.c:445: warning: implicit declaration of function 'brk' vg_mylibc.c:446: warning: implicit declaration of function 'sbrk' vg_mylibc.c:446: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast vg_mylibc.c: In function 'myvprintf_int64': vg_mylibc.c:528: warning: pointer targets in initialization differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:559: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:559: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:559: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_vprintf': vg_mylibc.c:682: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'myvprintf_str' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'add_to_myprintf_buf': vg_mylibc.c:723: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_strlen' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:723: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_send_bytes_to_logging_sink' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_printf': vg_mylibc.c:740: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_vprintf' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:743: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_send_bytes_to_logging_sink' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_sprintf': vg_mylibc.c:759: error: invalid storage class for function 'add_to_vg_sprintf_buf' vg_mylibc.c:770: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:770: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:770: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_atoll36': vg_mylibc.c:841: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:841: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:841: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_strncpy_safely': vg_mylibc.c:916: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:916: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:916: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_memcpy': vg_mylibc.c:1038: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1038: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1038: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_memset': vg_mylibc.c:1050: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1050: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1050: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_memcmp': vg_mylibc.c:1063: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1063: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1063: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'string_match_wrk': vg_mylibc.c:1124: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1124: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1124: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail': vg_mylibc.c:1236: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1236: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 3 of 'assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_core_panic': vg_mylibc.c:1249: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'panic' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1249: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'panic' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_safe_fd': vg_mylibc.c:1274: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1274: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1274: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1282: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1282: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1282: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_getcwd': vg_mylibc.c:1387: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1387: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1387: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_env_setenv': vg_mylibc.c:1445: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_sprintf' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_system': vg_mylibc.c:1583: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1584: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_read_millisecond_timer': vg_mylibc.c:1635: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1635: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1635: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_start_rdtsc_calibration': vg_mylibc.c:1645: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1645: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1645: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1650: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1650: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1650: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_end_rdtsc_calibration': vg_mylibc.c:1664: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1664: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1664: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1674: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1674: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1674: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1682: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_panic' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1690: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1690: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1690: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1699: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1699: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1699: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1704: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1704: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1704: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1719: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_message' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1722: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_panic' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1724: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1724: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1724: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_get_memory_from_mmap': vg_mylibc.c:1760: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1760: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1760: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c: In function 'vgPlain_ssort': vg_mylibc.c:1816: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1816: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness vg_mylibc.c:1816: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 4 of 'vgPlain_core_assert_fail' differ in signedness gmake[4]: *** [vg_mylibc.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/coregrind' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/coregrind' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352/coregrind' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/valgrind/work/valgrind-stable-352' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/valgrind. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 08:46:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF340106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdprakash@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AA48FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdprakash@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1335757fkk.11 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:46:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=CCli+zQdPXEAZNHy60QaUecVCDEUe7CtZvzWtEMPg/Y=; b=V1FgMC5lt0Ck5kyUdBcVHHDlSaaJClJMt/QAtXMwqAZ4F8InGYWKpBt1nUgPRnw1Ww kAWmAg7PC9C9vRJWXHLpzsGzx++juvKEYNjiBlyBy/d8dYe3voS6AZMlXpZhYDn2wyAO mXeOaoVh+k7ZSXjdxG+fJL9HRso9joXK5COvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fAvG+jyoYdJnNUv+dvhWjiHP3wbYRUem5UZZCf8/3SJR0vPw2LYfZ4yNIWrzrUmQGE PEyj7jMcqiGpV4T1EYtF8g0W96Uhwqo9wyHw3zr8JH8ZcQDgsZy+KmlfuYSO06Ri5rk8 X6eDiCK25XpWYInhA6NOQ4lSmJipj8PlR9Yfc= Received: by 10.180.229.17 with SMTP id b17mr2593355bkh.0.1216714841161; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.57.2 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1428d0e80807220120s11ca7ea0v3466b3bd3defe38e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:05:39 +0545 From: "Prakash Poudyal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: tips about saving text in Easy Editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:44 -0000 Hello Everybody Here I want to know some tips of the Easy Editor. Can any body say the Key word that will save the text of Easy Editor. Like you know we used to Esc :w in case in VIM Editor. So please if any body know please reply me. I want to know way of directly saving in Easy Editor. Thank Prakash From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 08:51:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F377D106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf@best.homeunix.org) Received: from mail.ralf-hornik.de (mail.ralf-hornik.de [217.111.95.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8636C8FC19 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf@best.homeunix.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ralf-hornik.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m6M8chm5022539 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:44 +0200 Received: from 82.210.242.242 ([82.210.242.242]) by www.ralf-hornik.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:43 +0200 Message-ID: <20080722103843.38825yxtn0vl7vk0@www.ralf-hornik.de> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:43 +0200 From: "Ralf Hornik Mailings" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080717160027.13371z3sdsm60z9c@www.ralf-hornik.de> <20080717172811.19282i42ayvmawis@www.ralf-hornik.de> In-Reply-To: <20080717172811.19282i42ayvmawis@www.ralf-hornik.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2) X-Spam-Score: -2.592 () AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 172.16.0.2 Subject: Re: Using OpenBSD's isakmpd in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:51:25 -0000 "Ralf Hornik Mailings" schreibte: > Appendix: > > The corresponding suite is: > > [AES-SHA-GRP5-RSA_SIG] > ENCRYPTION_ALGORITHM= AES_CBC > KEY_LENGTH= 256,128:256 > HASH_ALGORITHM= SHA > AUTHENTICATION_METHOD= RSA_SIG > GROUP_DESCRIPTION= MODP_1536 > > Might it be, that this aes cipher is missing in kernel? > A man (4) crypto shows: > Does nobody use isakmpd in freebsd? However I just switched to racoon that works for me but I have to rewrite all configuratons now. Are there any suggestions in (not) using isakmpd? It seems that the port was last updated in 2004. Is that right? Regards Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 08:58:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C811065671 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.239.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884738FC22 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6M8w045055783 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:58:00 GMT Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id m6M8w0PO055780 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:58:00 GMT Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:57:59 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/7776/Tue Jul 22 06:09:22 2008 on neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:58:07 -0000 Is there a way to get a mirror to sync up with the latest packages? For example, according to http://people.freebsd.org/~kuriyama/mirrors/ ftp13.us.FreeBSD.org is 53.8 days old. And the version of Gnome in ftp://ftp13.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/gnome is gnome2-2.22.1.tbz 04/18/08 22:33:00. So, the mirror seems to be about 2-3 months behind, is it possible to update it? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 09:09:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58831106567E for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.239.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6E08FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6M8f158052008 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:41:01 GMT Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id m6M8f0Am052005 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:41:01 GMT Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:41:00 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/7776/Tue Jul 22 06:09:22 2008 on neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:09:22 -0000 Is there a way to get a mirror to sync up with the latest packages? For example, according to http://people.freebsd.org/~kuriyama/mirrors/ ftp13.us.FreeBSD.org is 53.8 days old. And the version of Gnome in ftp://ftp13.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/gnome is gnome2-2.22.1.tbz 04/18/08 22:33:00. So, the mirror seems to be about 2-3 months behind, is it possible to update it? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 09:32:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3499D1065678 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79508FC18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6M9Wkeu011724; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:32:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 400B2BA96; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:32:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:32:43 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: AN Message-ID: <20080722093243.GA3285@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mirror update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:32:49 -0000 --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:57:59AM +0000, AN wrote: > Is there a way to get a mirror to sync up with the latest packages?=20 No. You should _ask_ the people who maintain those mirrors to do that. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiFqToACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU3NwCcCUrc+rie52gQ9/RfsTm2TNpQ VW4Ani5kkLreGjjC2aFNMu/PtuUqqXoi =ARAk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 09:36:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA691065671 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E079D8FC28 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6M9aNUY023809; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:36:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6EE5BA96; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:36:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:36:19 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Prakash Poudyal Message-ID: <20080722093619.GB3285@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <1428d0e80807220120s11ca7ea0v3466b3bd3defe38e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1428d0e80807220120s11ca7ea0v3466b3bd3defe38e@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tips about saving text in Easy Editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:36:25 -0000 --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:05:39PM +0545, Prakash Poudyal wrote: > Hello Everybody >=20 > Here I want to know some tips of the Easy Editor. Can any body say the > Key word that will save the text of Easy Editor.=20 You should read the manual page before asking questions. Type 'man ee' in a shell or xterm window. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiFqhMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUe3gCgog1S/trCILb8utlLADUxLs3e bWQAn3e2FxGyuI+x47CgkMQNWltavx0R =Ivyf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:04:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFA41065679 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9B68FC25 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MB4UAt043733; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:04:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6MB4TS2043732; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:04:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: Manolis Kiagias Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:04:29 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807220943.42926.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <48858932.60206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <48858932.60206@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807221404.29646.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:04:33 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 22 July 2008 10:16:02 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Manoli= s Kiagias =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 22 July 2008 00:25:46 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 To= re Lund =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > > =20 > >> Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > >> =20 > >>> ... > >>> Having said that, the issue with the temperature must not be my thing= :( > >>> after kldload coretemp, i get > >>> [achix@panix ~]% sysctl -a | grep tempera > >>> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 40,0C > >>> dev.cpu.0.temperature: -1 > >>> [achix@panix ~]%=20 > >>> The first always is stuck to 40 and dev.cpu.0.temperature to -1. > >>> =20 > >> Achillea, have you told us what CPU you have? Manolis presumes you ha= ve > >> an Intel, but I do not see this information anywhere in your posts. If > >> you have a recent AMD, try the port k8temp. > >> =20 > > > > Sorry, i have a=20 > > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2672.74-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf29 Stepping =3D 9 > > Features=3D0xbfebfbff > > Features2=3D0x4400 > > So coretemp is not for me. > > =20 >=20 > Definitely. >=20 > > While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon = to be updated in a fashion that seems > > natural.=20 > > [achix@panix ~]% mbmon > > Temp.=3D 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.=3D 3443, 0, 0 > > Vcore =3D 1.50, 1.81; Volt. =3D 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69 > > =20 >=20 > What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz= =20 > P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor= =20 > that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal. >=20 i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from dmes= g or sysctl that can reveal that info? > > I started to trust mbmon, and i think the 1st temp must be motherboard,= while the 3rd CPU, > > and indeed the first value varies betaeen 41-42 degrees, and the third = value from 39, (~ 100% idle) > > to 45 (0% idle). So i assume the above must be right. > > Yesterday i had mbmon -t > mbmon.out running all night and the highest = CPU temp was at 46 deg C, > > while highest MB temp was at 43 deg Celsius (if the previous assumption= s about the interpretation of the=20 > > output of mbmon are correct). > > Both high temps happened while running periodic daily at 03:00 (which i= ncreased my trust in those). > > All that, was after i blew the box/case inside and closed the case. > > If i trust those numbers and their interpretation then i must not have = a temperature problem (anymore). > > Lets see how the machine behaves. > > There is always the other usual suspect from the memory department :) > > > > =20 >=20 >=20 > For memory, I would suggest memtest86. For stressing the machine, try=20 > math/mprime in torture mode. Watch the temperatures and make sure you=20 > leave it running for a couple of hours and you don't get any errors.=20 > Usually, if you have a termperature problem it will bail out in half an=20 > hour or less. >=20 Memtest86 is good enough, i have used it on other machines. Thx for the mat= h/mprime hint. >=20 =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:07:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33FB1065676 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A498FC19 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so13442093agc.3 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.112.4 with SMTP id p4mr5275213ybm.103.1216724866605; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.233.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1714243ywd.8.2008.07.22.04.07.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:07:29 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722070729.373474f2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> References: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/ondsv.EWJch0WqNb/oRl1ON"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Default config for claws-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:07:47 -0000 --Sig_/ondsv.EWJch0WqNb/oRl1ON Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:31:58 -0400 David Gurvich wrote: > I like to use claws-mail with the bogofilter plugin as it is fast and > simple. The package is built without bogofilter and I wondered why > that is so. Does having claws-mail built with bogofilter conflict > with something else? Or is this a legacy of the time when the plugin > was a separate port? Did you run: 'make config' in the claws-mail directory before attempting to built it? Bogofilter is an option. I don't remember if it is turned on by default or not. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not BICKER and ARGUE over who killed who! --Sig_/ondsv.EWJch0WqNb/oRl1ON Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiFv3wACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMks1gCeMrsHDGcILbyYPVQmTxsN6hLH YxsAnikBRRvRf4MLF/DEkQPgK/d36pSF =4Ks7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ondsv.EWJch0WqNb/oRl1ON-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:26:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DF0106568A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB7E8FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so656930ywe.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=cS5o+tjRUOp2NJhsihwCL4YlsDtedrVXeuK4J8prUR4=; b=jgPk+9So7JaXUV0xnjUKlL1xRNiYCRRpMfvd0TWQo4w2Fg0Vw8wVqpq+W6vguACUVo 1Ok0V59Q2EAZut15F68L1P8qSgF4OEI4137Z9QmdiTFaHmBNeDQqaWsodGXPgsA3xyX/ yTU7Sor9rXJCk7+LGFMcXwj9gSbdNk/KoRK4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TunqXpby1m28je6MK8LFS2Td9kXhp2Y6f5bDewSipfr7+ZJRTX3Paq6cpGHTJV9w4R jxGcTq8sJqRH93HinIZ3iAsg0mItpXB/6zD4UQnOQfTfyfZON75HSL6X5lREzGBB0bAl NaeIYPchqNt/hfXFYJsTJztnS1WlutxeateAk= Received: by 10.151.114.9 with SMTP id r9mr5289039ybm.178.1216725980811; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.84.2 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20def4870807220426y7f65e23au8ac14f64684e7ae1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:26:20 +0300 From: "Yony Yossef" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel process memory overrun debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:26:21 -0000 Hi all, I'm looking for methods to debug a kernel process memory overrun. I'm working on an Ethernet driver for FreeBSD 7.0 and I'm facing a crash after several (kldload + kldunload)s. The exception is being thrown by the shell process after the last kldunload successfully ends so I'm guessing it's a memory overrun. Is there any tool/kernel option that helps? Thanks, Yony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:27:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EBE1065685 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3EF8FC18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1393143fkk.11 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:27:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/zY3LHknI2woyhDfR6DnaOyypPIJchQzihV/z3P0vI=; b=pFnAqA1Gzmy9ylPgPFm46haSDHX08J7Lx7JB3F1tMfo9NGyUpX+DV8CgW+n+1eYftA Q/JKZTg1ykBtgrTxNcUsjQzQQ0d3d/Hrk+4gblsGPVEr8hxXxvbhV5AmYUm/1wQI9w5W SOjhwLtOiB8HGJ1wrjSCDobgnknZGeUFW/lko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tqRZfbBfpqgrUCmNzRXBgjLLO/+vt3GMw19r7+DBAaVkrpngfWTyebRLP/k0suLb4n VbddqRFA6cO2n4nGDZDs2ukuMqsL9/woeS6xIb6AmpfWVPnS/zN3RMowv6qhqPtGQx5G sEvTz2IvRJubGNsMb6eHF60fEOVSPrpQUeMLU= Received: by 10.180.230.6 with SMTP id c6mr2757317bkh.27.1216726051838; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f31sm17117376fkf.0.2008.07.22.04.27.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4885C420.9080307@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:27:28 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807220943.42926.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <48858932.60206@gmail.com> <200807221404.29646.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807221404.29646.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:27:33 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >> >>> While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be updated in a fashion that seems >>> natural. >>> [achix@panix ~]% mbmon >>> Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443, 0, 0 >>> Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69 >>> >>> >> What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz >> P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor >> that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal. >> >> > > i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from dmesg or sysctl that can reveal > that info? > > Sure. There are various places to get this info. Sometimes the BIOS startup messages contain a hint on the chipset (like 865, 915 and so on). My dmesg also shows: agp0: on hostb0 And you can also use pciconf -v -l hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI Considering that you are running an older P4, probably socket 478, chances are you are using an 845 or 848 or 865 chipset. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:33:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A17C106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbs@langhans.com.pl) Received: from langhans.com.pl (host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl [194.126.238.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058EE8FC23 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbs@langhans.com.pl) Received: by langhans.com.pl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3358516A6CE; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:40:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:40:51 +0200 From: herbs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722114051.GA8322@greencat.langhans.com.pl> References: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Default config for claws-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:33:02 -0000 I use sylpheed with bogofilter. If I understand the combination right they are seperate programs, bogofilter is a program what gets invoked by sylpheed (or Claws in your case). Install the bogofilter port and try again. You can invoke bogofilter from the command line to see it is there and works. There are probably some settings required, but bogofilter works excellent. Hope that helps herbs On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 07:31:58PM -0400, David Gurvich wrote: > I like to use claws-mail with the bogofilter plugin as it is fast and > simple. The package is built without bogofilter and I wondered why > that is so. Does having claws-mail built with bogofilter conflict with > something else? Or is this a legacy of the time when the plugin was a > separate port? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau ******* Sprachtraining Langhans ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl ******* herbert at langhans.com.pl ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 ******* Regon 014911759 ******* Tel. 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:40:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E68A1065691 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail1.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00AC8FC2F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com) Received: from [161.73.146.9] (izb6d318.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.146.9]) (authenticated bits=0) by brookes.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MBeFY6018604 (SMTP-AUTH user p0036343) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:40:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4885C723.3000708@rowyerboat.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:40:19 +0100 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Oxford Brookes University MailScanner X-MailScanner: Clean X-MailScanner-From: sdafreebsduk@rowyerboat.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Problem running 'top' when ldap is around X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:40:28 -0000 I've noticed that with "files ldap" in nsswitch.conf, if I try to run "top" and the ldap server is not available, it takes about a minute to start showing information, whereas normally it's instantaneous. The problem seems to be the mapping of uid numbers to usernames (the -u options prevents this). The man page says: "Normally, top will read as much of the file "/etc/passwd" as is necessary to map all the user id numbers it encounters into login names" So my question is, top must be finding a uid number that it can't match in /etc/passwd, then going on to search ldap. How can this be? Thanks, Steve :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:43:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30E11065670 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (host3.dynacom.ondsl.gr [62.103.35.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345E08FC4E for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from smadev.internal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MBhHYa043852; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by smadev.internal.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6MBhGwg043851; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com) From: Achilleas Mantzios Organization: Dynacom Tankers Mgmt To: Manolis Kiagias Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:40:13 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807221404.29646.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4885C420.9080307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4885C420.9080307@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807221443.16879.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Cc: Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:43:20 -0000 =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 Tuesday 22 July 2008 14:27:28 =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Manoli= s Kiagias =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > >> =20 > >>> While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmo= n to be updated in a fashion that seems > >>> natural.=20 > >>> [achix@panix ~]% mbmon > >>> Temp.=3D 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.=3D 3443, 0, 0 > >>> Vcore =3D 1.50, 1.81; Volt. =3D 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69 > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3G= hz=20 > >> P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sens= or=20 > >> that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal. > >> > >> =20 > > > > i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from = dmesg or sysctl that can reveal > > that info? > > > > =20 >=20 > Sure. There are various places to get this info. Sometimes the BIOS=20 > startup messages contain a hint on the chipset (like 865, 915 and so on). > My dmesg also shows: >=20 > agp0: on hostb0 >=20 > And you can also use pciconf -v -l >=20 > hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > device =3D '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interf= ace' > class =3D bridge > subclass =3D HOST-PCI >=20 > Considering that you are running an older P4, probably socket 478,=20 > chances are you are using an 845 or 848 or 865 chipset. >=20 Then by all evidence,=20 % dmesg | grep -i agp agp0: on hostb0 hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=3D0x060000 card=3D0x1801147b chip=3D0x0651103= 9 rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' device =3D 'SiS651 Host-to-PCI Bridge' class =3D bridge subclass =3D HOST-PCI it must be the SiS 651 chipset http://www.sis.com/products/sis651.htm =2D-=20 Achilleas Mantzios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 11:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBC3106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725FC8FC0A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1402591fkk.11 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:56:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rwOq+bIDPMoQmZH/+GolGwWTjGT2SePPYfh4zgLPTK0=; b=qdJNj5ffEwXIsGvMoUdFqZJGnW8i4Hrltcsoh4lPPJWYTq0T3HgRZ6gT31c8JYLN9h HnXjvaExft5zyhBw8mwlLAkVtjO2TRadZCuy8wJNysE459b4zoX0vLCP57Y17rpImNzG vmxMqfEFHKErZgTHRYm8xHTzHJZr5xjbOjn6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ckQjkchMtfv19ReCeRe1hHm/0qlvoD/fMPd+jI66SEGNDwkkdcGgdKDJ5fVJZxFumn 24tBgiXhxOXaTPHEn07SGDryNnxq06WOCeBydL/goXG+/YoQ7EZBueJWNU5arCrHZNp3 fNBsukzGOpry2VGLF7wUlLo2tlfU9bsfG1JAM= Received: by 10.180.213.14 with SMTP id l14mr2765937bkg.55.1216727788567; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm17150220fka.3.2008.07.22.04.56.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4885CAE9.5080301@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:56:25 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleas Mantzios References: <48849FFD.10285.C71CED5@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <200807221404.29646.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <4885C420.9080307@gmail.com> <200807221443.16879.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> In-Reply-To: <200807221443.16879.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring CPU temperature: mbmon shows 201 degrees C X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:56:31 -0000 Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > Στις Tuesday 22 July 2008 14:27:28 ο/η Manolis Kiagias έγραψε: > >> Achilleas Mantzios wrote: >> >>>> >>>> >>>>> While experimenting, i noticed the 1st and 3rd temperatures from mbmon to be updated in a fashion that seems >>>>> natural. >>>>> [achix@panix ~]% mbmon >>>>> Temp.= 41.0, 201.0, 42.0; Rot.= 3443, 0, 0 >>>>> Vcore = 1.50, 1.81; Volt. = 3.30, 5.08, 11.43, -11.74, -1.69 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What chipset is the mobo based on? mbmon runs fine on my 865G and a 3Ghz >>>> P4 CPU. You are probably correct, the middle temp may represent a sensor >>>> that is not recognized, but the other readings seem normal. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> i'll let you know next time i open the case. Is there any reading from dmesg or sysctl that can reveal >>> that info? >>> >>> >>> >> Sure. There are various places to get this info. Sometimes the BIOS >> startup messages contain a hint on the chipset (like 865, 915 and so on). >> My dmesg also shows: >> >> agp0: on hostb0 >> >> And you can also use pciconf -v -l >> >> hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >> device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface' >> class = bridge >> subclass = HOST-PCI >> >> Considering that you are running an older P4, probably socket 478, >> chances are you are using an 845 or 848 or 865 chipset. >> >> > > Then by all evidence, > % dmesg | grep -i agp > agp0: on hostb0 > > hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x1801147b chip=0x06511039 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)' > device = 'SiS651 Host-to-PCI Bridge' > class = bridge > subclass = HOST-PCI > > it must be the SiS 651 chipset > http://www.sis.com/products/sis651.htm > > Right. SIS chipsets are not exactly my favorites, but they seem to be working with FreeBSD, so I won't complain. I got one at school loaded with 7.0 and have no problems. Arguably it is not as stressed as yours. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 12:07:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316AB1065688 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8328FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from localhost ([70.107.188.207]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K4E00AE4PNN2BS4@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:06:59 -0400 From: David Gurvich In-reply-to: <20080722070729.373474f2@scorpio> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080722080659.4abf3107@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20080721193158.75a03c32@verizon.net> <20080722070729.373474f2@scorpio> Subject: Re: Default config for claws-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:07:22 -0000 I have claws-mail built the way I want, it's just that there was an update with portupgrade that installed the package from the repository. Suddenly my 'Spam/Ham' button wasn't working, took me a little while to figure out that claws-mail had been updated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 12:52:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3AE106568A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902928FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so535923wra.27 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:52:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vt7vyzepumhvpFSVUqd3QBIBn1B8iRfuDjBcAvM94rI=; b=QdXE76u0ZC7wKxBRpENHa0gjcXBBaTbZMOXDXzKxS1W/HT8KpSmC6GsrRoP3NyQ6Q5 6l9Pn2YxN8OgcKIXlf9oEvAZ/UyESRcUVIt0sBUtpwCrjfGtv6zKmldYFrGPvs7OP7rh y7W6NobvzN51ZicX2ODiB2a3V/Wz1Z/wd7JCE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dbRw8XJsfz3NmUoS7Q4xd14zzpfrYFuyC2lf7aHRLagIGjbfu1+CAJxyjSOHD1xPsS t07p0fqZRmlcQ+7W3dkqAuFCl9ewwqM4c8VkDahRh8H6kElV55CwNKmZHRwya+c11+45 vwiatv5KVlsj+kaOBwTQguNTFFFfUlJjOZ/GM= Received: by 10.90.32.14 with SMTP id f14mr2926509agf.17.1216731163523; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.33.17 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20807220552i7f59cc7agcca206b6e294754d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:52:43 -0400 From: Jim To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <87mykaslg4.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20807211830y30acdf5cyacc05161a4268b04@mail.gmail.com> <87mykaslg4.fsf@kobe.laptop> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS troubles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:52:45 -0000 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:56 -0400, Jim wrote: >> I'm trying to get a machine working, but it can't seem to handle DNS >> requests. I've just done a 7.0 install (from CD, usually I use net, >> but it wasn't connecting to anything, now I know why). >> >> I have a machine with two built in NICs on the motheroboard, one using >> nfe the other using bge. When I try to connect to anything, I get a >> "cannot resolve host error". Both are set up to be static, >> 192.168.1.84, and bge is 192.168.1.86. I have tried both "192.168.1.1" >> (the router, which points to the ISPs DNS) and "4.2.2.1" in the >> /etc/resolve.conf file, each separately, not both at once. The machine >> can ping both of these addresses and gets a decent to rapid return >> time (~.3ms for the former, <20ms for the latter) Neither works on >> this machine. Both work on the other FreeBSD and Windows machines in >> the house. I have the machine set to dual boot, and DNS works fine >> under Windows. > > I hope you didn't create a "resolve.conf" file, because it is called > "resolv.conf" without a final "e", i.e.: indeed I did. I removed the 'e' and it works perfeclty. Amazing the difference a byte can make. Still, I wonder why it wouldn't work during install? I feel extremely silly at this point. Anyway, anyone know how to turn off the typo daemon? I tried 'killall -9 typod' and '/etc/rc.d/typod stop', but nothing seems to get rid of it... Thanks again for the help, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 12:57:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F211065670 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us (mail.bloomfield.K12.MO.US [204.184.27.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6808FC1C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us (localhost.bloomfield.k12.mo.us [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11549582D; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 204.184.27.217 (SquirrelMail authenticated user sgmayo) by mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3357.204.184.27.217.1216731492.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:12 -0500 (CDT) From: sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us To: samba@lists.samba.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Samba and LDAP install on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:57:21 -0000 Here is my problem. I installed the OpenLdap 2.4.10 server and SASL client. I then went to install the Samba 3.0.30 Port and it tells me that it needs to install OpenLDAP client 2.3.42, but the 2.4.10 is in the same place and I need to deinstall it. I deinstall 2.4.10 and samba will install, but now openldap will not run because it has missing files. I went to reinstall the 2.4.10 SASL client, but it tells me that the openldap 2.3.42 needs to be removed. If I go to remove the 2.3.42 openldap client, it tells me that samba 3.0.30 relies on it. I am kind of stuck here. Does samba 3.0.30 not work with openldap 2.4? Do I have to have openldap 2.3? Thanks for any suggestions. -- Scott Mayo - System Administrator Bloomfield Schools PH: 573-568-5669 FA: 573-568-4565 Question: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Answer: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 13:14:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A911065673 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leosat.it@ariel.ru) Received: from mail1.ariel.ru (mail1.ariel.ru [85.21.118.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9BC8FC1A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leosat.it@ariel.ru) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.ariel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E939C40D; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:14:49 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.126.40] (unknown [192.168.126.40]) by mail1.ariel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551999C3DB; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:14:48 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4885DAEC.1060207@ariel.ru> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:04:44 +0400 From: Leonid Satanovsky User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Robillard , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <226ae0c60807220600t17dcfab1y3062e7357822c509@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60807220600t17dcfab1y3062e7357822c509@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Looking for 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:14:38 -0000 Thanks to David Mark and Bill ------------- Think, we'll try High Point's one. ) David Robillard wrote: >> Does annybody know some 32-bit PCI SATA RAID contoller supported under FreeBSD 6.2/7.0? >> > > Take a look at http://www.highpoint-tech.com/ Good cards which are > well supported in FreeBSD. > > HTH, > > David > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Best regards, Leonid E. Satanovsky, system administrator, Ariel Metal. tel.: +7 (495) 786-42-9 (292), +7 (495) 786-43-03 fax: +7 (495) 786-42-90 e-mail: leosat.it@ariel.ru http://www.arielmetal.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 13:25:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD57D106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B00E8FC1B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1001715wah.3 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.156.1 with SMTP id d1mr3760948wae.171.1216731419668; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.15.1 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:59 +0600 From: "Aftab Jahan Subedar" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:25:14 -0000 FreeBSD is free. Everyone found it very funny though, it should be. But it should funny in different way. I think the "FREE" thing did not occur free to him. Why it is funny ? Cuz, in few countries, ppl has to pay for some products/UN food reliefs that are written and advertised as "FREE / SAMPLE, NOT FOR SALE", includes food shampoo etc. Also expired in dates. Things that you get free from the sales girls at the door step of shopping malls. Now you see how it is funny ? On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > wrag@lipetsk.ru wrote: > >> What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? >> >> it's important for me. I must know. >> > > It is available for the low low price of $0 or the equivalent in your local > currency. Yes really :) > > Kris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Soubedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:16:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E445F106566B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297D28FC21 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp121-45-8-245.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net [121.45.8.245]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6ME45YG075501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:34:07 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: samba@lists.samba.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:33:55 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <3357.204.184.27.217.1216731492.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <3357.204.184.27.217.1216731492.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart93596925.Rd0lrX7bcv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200807222334.01847.darius@dons.net.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.212 () BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba and LDAP install on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darius@dons.net.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:16:22 -0000 --nextPart93596925.Rd0lrX7bcv Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us wrote: > Here is my problem. I installed the OpenLdap 2.4.10 server and SASL > client. I then went to install the Samba 3.0.30 Port and it tells me > that it needs to install OpenLDAP client 2.3.42, but the 2.4.10 is in > the same place and I need to deinstall it. I deinstall 2.4.10 and > samba will install, but now openldap will not run because it has > missing files. I went to reinstall the 2.4.10 SASL client, but it > tells me that the openldap 2.3.42 needs to be removed. > > If I go to remove the 2.3.42 openldap client, it tells me that samba > 3.0.30 relies on it. I am kind of stuck here. Does samba 3.0.30 not > work with openldap 2.4? Do I have to have openldap 2.3? Put this in /etc/make.conf WANT_OPENLDAP_VER=3D24 It tells the ports tree that you want OpenLDAP 2.4 if a port doesn't=20 specify a particular version. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart93596925.Rd0lrX7bcv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBIhejR5ZPcIHs/zowRArEkAJ94X2nWmGZekvmDUmKE5FBJTuoaDACfSnGs Z+D0fvR+ceYUKywTyzReNGg= =Kj4z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart93596925.Rd0lrX7bcv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:21:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD9D106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441478FC31 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so293714yxb.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=0gWIBWWPG2EwJWOLaJz+8pzEVBz+UXho5IJxCv94ePw=; b=gfQvX7LFfpxnHbKW6CbW1WrWM5Li0gIQ+kaDuMaHRD6kmgpFvza0s3GfXqLPkKlYor Hk30RxSN8GO5biKzKsWujd5TE61KMlGdY5c4BgowejIh6SdKs9mBqKGxaqYtrFgZ64kj NTbpewBXOASZpQwNIIRnkLrLdH5hQvoxP92kU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=i5eDCusd73ZS7sQ+m9i5NCZ+aCOk385lYicKn87RB44XKFsScx1xMFDRL5ABBwA4u+ SFKpDW2hhhwwDOoRNsHq7cct51YPkAKOqPih8MlW0GEJjThjSAIsWXeZv4HQS9kBkhFZ apmP/dC+e53Q+/G8Q0i1J+VX4h0VDnyFF/o0g= Received: by 10.151.39.21 with SMTP id r21mr5487564ybj.238.1216736505271; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.182.18 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <340a29540807220721r10e36a99v1a2fa74e2bb2dfa0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:21:45 -0600 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Has anyone used libusb for accessing usb devices here? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:21:46 -0000 Hi, I'd like to know if anyone here on the list has ever used libusb (http://libusb.sourceforge.net) for accessing usb devices. I successfully compiled and installed it on my FreeBSD 7 laptop but when I run a test program no USB HUBs are found. The same test on a Fedora box works fine. I was wondering what the magic is for FreeBSD since the web site claims the package works on FreeBSD. Thanks, Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:34:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692231065672 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvenne@meditrans.fr) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D0D8FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvenne@meditrans.fr) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85E92845C35 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:01:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC9A3F6381 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yoda.staff.photographesdefrance.com (ram94-5-82-229-222-7.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.222.7]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9785A3F63B8 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:02:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4885E863.8060900@meditrans.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:02:11 +0200 From: rvenne User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: bind sdb using ldap: load zone creating database failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:34:29 -0000 Hi list, I'm trying to use bind9-sdb-ldap-base-9.4.1.1@freebsd 7.0_releng on a openldap 2.3.30@debian-etch backend. openldap works fine. but I'm unable to make work bind. here's my named.conf options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; listen-on { 127.0.0.1; 192.168.0.194; }; listen-on-v6 { none; }; //forward only; forwarders { 192.168.0.2; }; allow-query { 127.0.0.1; 0.0.0.0/0; }; allow-recursion { 127.0.0.1; }; }; zone "domain.com" { type master; database "ldap ldap://192.168.0.2/ou=domain.com,ou=dns,o=domain,dc=com"; }; named gives followed errors: domain.com/IN: loading zone: creating database: failure regards -- Richard VENNE IT Administrator Administrateur rseaux systme & scurit Afin de respecter de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer cet email qu'en cas de ncessit absolue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:38:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4D01065674 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345938FC16 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 568BE28469; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:58 -0400 (EDT) To: "Andrew Falanga" References: <340a29540807220721r10e36a99v1a2fa74e2bb2dfa0@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <340a29540807220721r10e36a99v1a2fa74e2bb2dfa0@mail.gmail.com> (Andrew Falanga's message of "Tue\, 22 Jul 2008 08\:21\:45 -0600") Message-ID: <44bq0qc7b1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Has anyone used libusb for accessing usb devices here? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:38:59 -0000 "Andrew Falanga" writes: > I'd like to know if anyone here on the list has ever used libusb > (http://libusb.sourceforge.net) for accessing usb devices. I > successfully compiled and installed it on my FreeBSD 7 laptop but when > I run a test program no USB HUBs are found. The same test on a Fedora > box works fine. I was wondering what the magic is for FreeBSD since > the web site claims the package works on FreeBSD. libusb is in ports, and a number of other ports use it. (See "make search key=libusb".) That should provide a variety of working examples. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:43:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AD2106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5841A8FC2C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A2B6728469; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:43:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Stephen Allen References: <4885C723.3000708@rowyerboat.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:43:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4885C723.3000708@rowyerboat.com> (Stephen Allen's message of "Tue\, 22 Jul 2008 12\:40\:19 +0100") Message-ID: <447ibec72v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem running 'top' when ldap is around X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:53 -0000 Stephen Allen writes: > I've noticed that with "files ldap" in nsswitch.conf, if I try to run > "top" and the ldap server is not available, it takes about a minute to > start showing information, whereas normally it's instantaneous. > > The problem seems to be the mapping of uid numbers to usernames (the > -u > options prevents this). The man page says: > > "Normally, top will read as much of the file "/etc/passwd" as is > necessary to map all the user id numbers it encounters into login > names" The man page is misleading. If LDAP or NIS are present, top seems to grab all of the entries from there. Changes to the man page should be submitted upstream, if you're interested in that aspect. > So my question is, top must be finding a uid number that it can't > match in /etc/passwd, then going on to search ldap. How can this be? I'm not sure that top follows nsswitch.conf (but I didn't spend enough time looking to be sure). I'm not sure I answered your question; if you are still wondering, can you please reword the question? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:45:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A26F106567D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23A78FC18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MEjCvV089936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:45:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m6MEjBHP089920; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:45:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:45:10 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: EdwardKing Message-ID: <20080722144508.GF19044@dan.emsphone.com> References: <00d501c8eafa$174daff0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> <1bd550a00807202332g69a71b66j8c985dc5f61e22e5@mail.gmail.com> <00e401c8eafc$bf4ef4a0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <00e401c8eafc$bf4ef4a0$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD , Fernando =?utf-8?Q?Apestegu=C3=ADa?= Subject: Re: How to change process status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:45:14 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 21), EdwardKing said: > From: "Fernando Apesteguía" > > On 7/21/08, EdwardKing wrote: > >> I make a process running in background,like follows: > >> $./a.out & > >> > >> I want to know how to change a.out from backgound to foreground > >> and how to stop it? > > > > with "fg" and the number the shell returns after you placed the > > process in the background. Let's say: > > > > $./a.out & > > [1] 27537 > > > > fg %1 > > > > -- Here the shell will bring the process to the foreground -- > > > > Now you can stop it with Ctrl-c for instance. > > I use FreeBSD7.0 > > $./a.out & > $ > > There is show nothing,like such as [1] 27537 > Why? /bin/sh doesn't print the job number when you background a process. You can use the "jobs" command to list all backgrounded and suspended jobs. In your case, you only have one job, so you can just run "fg %1" or even "fg". -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 14:57:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9AB1065687 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvenne@meditrans.fr) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922598FC16 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvenne@meditrans.fr) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC723F63B1 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from yoda.staff.photographesdefrance.com (ram94-5-82-229-222-7.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.222.7]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8180E3F633F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4885F55A.30008@meditrans.fr> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:30 +0200 From: rvenne User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4885E863.8060900@meditrans.fr> In-Reply-To: <4885E863.8060900@meditrans.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [RESOLVED]Re: bind sdb using ldap: load zone creating database failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:57:31 -0000 Ok, I got it zone "domain.com" { type master; database "ldap ldap://192.168.0.2/ou=domain.com,ou=dns,o=domain,dc=com 172800"; }; works fine. by the way, what does mean this number? 172800? rvenne a crit : > Hi list, > > I'm trying to use bind9-sdb-ldap-base-9.4.1.1@freebsd 7.0_releng on a > openldap 2.3.30@debian-etch backend. > > openldap works fine. but I'm unable to make work bind. > > here's my named.conf > > options { > directory "/etc/namedb"; > pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; > statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; > listen-on { > 127.0.0.1; > 192.168.0.194; > }; > listen-on-v6 { > none; > }; > //forward only; > forwarders { > 192.168.0.2; > }; > allow-query { > 127.0.0.1; > 0.0.0.0/0; > }; > allow-recursion { > 127.0.0.1; > }; > > }; > > zone "domain.com" { > type master; > database "ldap > ldap://192.168.0.2/ou=domain.com,ou=dns,o=domain,dc=com"; > }; > > named gives followed errors: > > domain.com/IN: loading zone: creating database: failure > > regards > -- Richard VENNE IT Administrator Administrateur rseaux systme & scurit Afin de respecter de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer cet email qu'en cas de ncessit absolue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:12:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921C11065671 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789A58FC26 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 21540 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 14:46:00 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2008 14:46:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:45:58 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:12:40 -0000 Hello! My attempt to build openoffice.org-3 seems to be hanging. Pressing Ctrl-T produces: load: 0.11 cmd: tcsh 79759 [sleeping without queue] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 0k (tcsh is used by OOo's build-script). What is this "sleeping without queue" state, and why is process in it for so long? This is an 4-CPU amd64 system with 4Gb of RAM. Only 16% of the swap is currently in use and the box seems to be perfectly fine otherwise. Uptime is 55 days, two different X-sessions are functional... The kernel is FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37. Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:19:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7534106567A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFDC8FC1B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so304788yxb.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OH04OiyEGsdjG6juynCqeBN3gB2agNSmGgPwwOFysk8=; b=OYOTSECGoMFFLLEpicxEUKVJwirsZskmYSc1iA8XCtfZcgxJRnIdD1q+I/wMxhyysw Yizr1tfXfzVdwfFvoaeTuZyVil12SQp9G8JunKvXlyH8bXNO4AbQ5KfJ3CNejMnrzyzd i1L43W8/E0a7ge5GK1FzozU+ARZ99PYf3Nv6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nwAu6BF5lb6x5QZdjgYQMMVJ2bHKOKf0QbRFGvJpawc7ywEcemiPej/SaAqtdxfCLi 3OAkZyEYGukJYwtdH2V3U0Qi3qZ9BjS2T7seO+sGLVDArVomPkXcTeMt2od0rsw/YJNn xST0ejvYdpc4XcXItSS3b9S+sTnw0KAdLlUoA= Received: by 10.151.12.4 with SMTP id p4mr5637104ybi.76.1216739969908; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.182.18 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <340a29540807220819q7ffaa6a0rad3cde8f0e9fe9ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:19:29 -0600 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Lowell Gilbert" In-Reply-To: <44bq0qc7b1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <340a29540807220721r10e36a99v1a2fa74e2bb2dfa0@mail.gmail.com> <44bq0qc7b1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Has anyone used libusb for accessing usb devices here? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:19:30 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Andrew Falanga" writes: > >> I'd like to know if anyone here on the list has ever used libusb >> (http://libusb.sourceforge.net) for accessing usb devices. I >> successfully compiled and installed it on my FreeBSD 7 laptop but when >> I run a test program no USB HUBs are found. The same test on a Fedora >> box works fine. I was wondering what the magic is for FreeBSD since >> the web site claims the package works on FreeBSD. > > libusb is in ports, and a number of other ports use it. > (See "make search key=libusb".) > That should provide a variety of working examples. > Well, I feel like a total bafoon. I searched yesterday for it at freshports.org and turned up nothing. The reason: I was searching for "usblib" rather than "libusb." How incredibly frustrating. Thanks, Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:26:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A54E1065671 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E969A8FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so560565ana.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:26:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=lFRpDRFHY1RS34xDoab7XcgBjH0D3/jwuN1eBkx547c=; b=VA8JmPWnuIamgcVh4t9ZxN7ULo7QJw8u+2567XkP9DDd8fHBkE0n4lxdN0LfMhJ5Ro 5M8JltsUfUYriki2uierKz4ZkrUVCpgiP+dYF3PwT52KSjHXOMFiX0LLjWH6eoDRqDud xhOYnh7oKoVefkkOQ8tD3u1FTygKeQGmc88o8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=t9WsuGitDLEESmYsMgw5ffklMbddNmsq7cp0fkOrMwRWIr2+S/pj98kGui4520bZrc d1FI2JtLCByu7GykBialrg/h+g/KxF6zlI+QvbgnjVPI/9nMdjQ25sY9gZIu58vvKaPW Hbh/ELARiyu9F5n9z9YXLkQ+asHcsGrs+aZbs= Received: by 10.100.208.11 with SMTP id f11mr2468180ang.89.1216740395978; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.92.3 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:26:35 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ports dependency question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:26:37 -0000 I tried to install freemind from ports (ports/deskutils/freemind). The installation failed because I am missing jdk 1.5*. The Makefile requires java > 1.4. diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10 is installed. Installing the latest binary via "pkg_add -r freemind" has the same results, so I don't think it's a question of needing to compile the java code. Does diablo not meet the java requirement? Should I need to install a java sdk? At what point would it be appropriate to contact the maintainer of freemind for help? Thanks, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:28:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E7F1065678 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6788FC18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MFSH6j095350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:28:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m6MF6hin044208; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:06:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:06:43 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722150642.GG19044@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4885C723.3000708@rowyerboat.com> <447ibec72v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <447ibec72v.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Stephen Allen Subject: Re: Problem running 'top' when ldap is around X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:28:18 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 22), Lowell Gilbert said: > Stephen Allen writes: > > I've noticed that with "files ldap" in nsswitch.conf, if I try to > > run "top" and the ldap server is not available, it takes about a > > minute to start showing information, whereas normally it's > > instantaneous. > > > > The problem seems to be the mapping of uid numbers to usernames > > (the -u options prevents this). The man page says: > > > > "Normally, top will read as much of the file "/etc/passwd" as is > > necessary to map all the user id numbers it encounters into login > > names" > > The man page is misleading. If LDAP or NIS are present, top seems to > grab all of the entries from there. Changes to the man page should > be submitted upstream, if you're interested in that aspect. > > > So my question is, top must be finding a uid number that it can't > > match in /etc/passwd, then going on to search ldap. How can this > > be? > > I'm not sure that top follows nsswitch.conf (but I didn't spend > enough time looking to be sure). It does. I recommend enabling nscd and editing your nsswitch.conf passwd and group lines to "files cache ldap". That way only your first top invocation will be slow, and the rest will pull from nscd. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:29:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A9B1065674; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DA48FC20; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:29:41 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:29:43 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > My attempt to build openoffice.org-3 seems to be hanging. Pressing > Ctrl-T produces: > > load: 0.11 cmd: tcsh 79759 [sleeping without queue] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 0k > > (tcsh is used by OOo's build-script). What is this "sleeping without > queue" state, and why is process in it for so long? > > This is an 4-CPU amd64 system with 4Gb of RAM. Only 16% of the swap is > currently in use and the box seems to be perfectly fine otherwise. > Uptime is 55 days, two different X-sessions are functional... The kernel > is FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37. > > Thanks! What is the process backtrace? Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:36:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374601065687 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8BD8FC28 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1332136wfg.7 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=hTH3HP/Clz7BCsDaqQzDgNKJSTFSfU7zPQW9uScJweo=; b=OlFh1QbTRRuXD+ABXeuQ6F9Uzylg+KTWrJajZFo7CfXV0QPbrUjIROH0NuLG01WzqM UpIRQMf27LCbUed0miLyKapjt5QnnunSkzB1vh2GmjlyaRtIasNh1IKJLAKS6GL6OyZu pf9pQopSCI6r3QcPOLiWIgyowuX2pM5wrjvSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nxhvxiuYbPnd4Gufrg9SA/w1UtYvut4QgvYAe1GYOz+XVy0+jlV3ASuWk4R7kGJHWm 72aworRm6WOztq1NgsXgez7EvNL3on4SHAy4qS9dOaA2O8ArjHCXIxaY77lZV0xF9EPE QJqfRt0Uer4BQeSmTDHGUNi+gTmH7bys127Us= Received: by 10.143.155.7 with SMTP id h7mr1892478wfo.16.1216739357996; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.88.2 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:09:17 -0400 From: "FreeBSD Questions" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:36:24 -0000 This book was printed in August 2004. This predates FBSD 5, and I know there were some significant changes between the 4.x and 5.x branches. We've progressed further and are now into version 7. How well does this book apply to more current versions of FreeBSD, such as version 7? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:39:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4572106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from a.cs.okstate.edu (a.cs.okstate.edu [139.78.113.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825DC8FC21 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a.cs.okstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13C5154C73; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:39:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4885FF15.2020205@cs.okstate.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:39:01 -0500 From: Reid Linnemann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: ports dependency question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:39:16 -0000 Written by Andrew Gould on 07/22/08 10:26>> > I tried to install freemind from ports (ports/deskutils/freemind). The > installation failed because I am missing jdk 1.5*. The Makefile requires > java > 1.4. diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10 is installed. Installing the latest > binary via "pkg_add -r freemind" has the same results, so I don't think it's > a question of needing to compile the java code. > > Does diablo not meet the java requirement? > > Should I need to install a java sdk? > > At what point would it be appropriate to contact the maintainer of freemind > for help? > > Thanks, > > Andrew Gould > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" JRE != JDK. The diablo jre is a java virtual machine, the jdk is the developer kit that provides the java compiler, modules, and other jazz needed for building and interpreting java source. Freemind is written in Java, hence it must be compiled by the java compiler, which is provided by the jdk. You can find the jdk ports at /usr/ports/java. There are a few choices, such as the sun jdk releases and the diablo jdk. I'm not sure what the difference is between the two, hopefully a FreeBSD Java sage can chime in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:47:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667B106568B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ED68FC19 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F438339E6; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:47:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:47:42 +0200 From: cpghost To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080722154742.GA43358@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:47:45 -0000 On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:56:24AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor GELI > encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. Are there any > plans for implementing this in the future? What disk encryption > softoware would you recommend for use with FreeBSD to provide hidden > containers? Unless the containers are spread randomly across the partition and are small enough, they WILL appear very prominently, because they will usually have maximun entropy. To locate them, all a cyrptanalyst has to do is to look out for regions on the partition with very high entropy, and to proceed by elimination (e.g. by trying to decompress files or looking for specific markers in, say, MPEG files and what not). Hiding encrypted contents is not as easy as it may seem... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 15:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61458106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43438FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so452358uge.37 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0dIj1xWRe2Ws/A/9cg4BMzQ4awj6/utV+WKW4U3P35k=; b=qa1AMaZpIjIcO9pyYb5LPQKr7tX0Cr04O0rU9cQ2LhJuddbLfPRRg2BlCFUeP/yrEq YoEVh4ionz1vRxowgHUyTYalbdTDnxryuvS0kH5Z/ymzqMZHA95sEcpo4vmGfWXMAC6n x6I3ULwZoNdU7dqGZd1YDFbZ1i69H3mE9hsiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tRsUXHjs9Oi+Ay1g1AtaGexwt9y/Umhtd5Z/iEwnC7W4ULxa/IKxzA8c283QzhTgoa OOGgyPziINvJcwbgYHfZJ0BXH6E8+3iJ0fv/kde2YtV5oRwBGnJQrKFpMsBLZQvmsRGW s6marz7Yd8St0Vp6V35nZEjCWmmavEKjUohzc= Received: by 10.103.249.7 with SMTP id b7mr3759699mus.51.1216741831352; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm46716329mue.8.2008.07.22.08.50.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <488601C4.7050802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:50:28 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: ports dependency question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:50:33 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > I tried to install freemind from ports (ports/deskutils/freemind). The > installation failed because I am missing jdk 1.5*. The Makefile requires > java > 1.4. diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10 is installed. Installing the latest > binary via "pkg_add -r freemind" has the same results, so I don't think it's > a question of needing to compile the java code. > > Does diablo not meet the java requirement? > > Should I need to install a java sdk? > > > Can't tell you about freemind, but lately I had trouble getting the firefox java plugin to work with the jre only. (which should work, according to the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html ) Once I installed the jdk, everything was fine, so it may be worth a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:13:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16761065677 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12A18FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 31867 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 16:13:27 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2008 16:13:27 -0000 Message-ID: <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:13:25 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:13:29 -0000 Kris Kennaway (): > Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Hello! >> >> My attempt to build openoffice.org-3 seems to be hanging. Pressing >> Ctrl-T produces: >> >> load: 0.11 cmd: tcsh 79759 [sleeping without queue] 0.00u 0.00s >> 0% 0k >> >> (tcsh is used by OOo's build-script). What is this "sleeping without >> queue" state, and why is process in it for so long? >> >> This is an 4-CPU amd64 system with 4Gb of RAM. Only 16% of the swap >> is currently in use and the box seems to be perfectly fine otherwise. >> Uptime is 55 days, two different X-sessions are functional... The >> kernel is FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37. >> >> Thanks! > > What is the process backtrace? Hard to say... The process ID 79759. According to ps(1), that PID exists: 79759 p6 DE+ 0:00,00 /bin/tcsh -fc /meow/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/solver/300/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/makedepend @/tmp/mk2WUYYi > ../../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/s_addincol.dpcc According to gdb, it does not: gdb 79759 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...79759: No such file or directory. Interestingly, the file mentioned in the command-line -- the s_addincol.dpcc -- does not exist anywhere under /meow/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:20:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6E9106566C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4F78FC0A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t2E41Z01v0b6N64AA44nyb; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:04:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t44m1Z00E4KuD458P44mGP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:04:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=B-_amwTXOrj_zR4bTUkA:9 a=PRG072FnBUKBW3y92b4A:9 a=-5_QBsnOlrg1tGSawOWTr_4lp4gA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: dfeustel@mindspring.com Message-Id: <20080722162048.8D4F78FC0A@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:20:48 -0000 I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this package. Does it exist? Thanks, Dave Feustel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:22:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE2B1065673 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD858FC18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 30972 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 16:22:43 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2008 16:22:42 -0000 Message-ID: <4886094F.4020101@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:22:39 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Kris Kennaway , questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:43 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick (): > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:13:25PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > >> Kris Kennaway (): >> >>> Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>> >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> My attempt to build openoffice.org-3 seems to be hanging. Pressing >>>> Ctrl-T produces: >>>> >>>> load: 0.11 cmd: tcsh 79759 [sleeping without queue] 0.00u 0.00s >>>> 0% 0k >>>> >>>> (tcsh is used by OOo's build-script). What is this "sleeping without >>>> queue" state, and why is process in it for so long? >>>> >>>> This is an 4-CPU amd64 system with 4Gb of RAM. Only 16% of the swap >>>> is currently in use and the box seems to be perfectly fine otherwise. >>>> Uptime is 55 days, two different X-sessions are functional... The >>>> kernel is FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37. >>>> >>> What is the process backtrace? >>> >> Hard to say... The process ID 79759. According to ps(1), that PID exists: >> 79759 p6 DE+ 0:00,00 /bin/tcsh -fc >> /meow/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/solver/300/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/makedepend >> @/tmp/mk2WUYYi > ../../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/s_addincol.dpcc >> According to gdb, it does not: >> [...] > Syntax appears wrong; "gdb [program] 79759" would be what you want. > Yes, indeed. The result is similar, though: % gdb /bin/tcsh 79759 [...] Attaching to program: /bin/tcsh, process 79759 ptrace: No such process. /meow/ports/79759: No such file or directory. Thanks, -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:31:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9204106566C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicodache@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19B88FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicodache@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2310342rvf.43 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:31:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:subject :cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references; bh=jtuZLXEidNzdMKXv4xW5RYukSz1m1L3BUsP6uSseXZY=; b=we2D4vw0wQ8fsFvfWNZ34jZJZm/89KV9G1Zd920fXKzQ/lphf7faL+LPkeB0P8yIme wv3BqDw4vV1OjNglGfwTIstBd6rK5snly7gnkKGgLw2fx5RBfRCgSz8x+zWLOdpM0yiP vOzr7u8dPFd3WvBJjcktc8EOStIPB7Bj1aP2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mT5s+QHL+v1vbMkQxf8ZfwnK5HK+3m99fUoXqDVU5MuUN0UYR5IM5XEtoyCtvWNPri x7+0hArxSMLasCSGorkezkWQmSlSG541v7KcWpOUTNXj8H2WOhBnBpO3dhIC+YS8TSTM ykFg0iz9eA3Y4Omoz7HIv5C5LrLdMGyonbuRg= Received: by 10.140.201.8 with SMTP id y8mr10839rvf.148.1216744280193; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.19.11 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82029aed0807220931y195ec6a2s2e2d6b6a4d3dcf2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:31:20 +0200 From: nicodache Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080722162048.8D4F78FC0A@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080722162048.8D4F78FC0A@mx1.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:31:20 -0000 Maybe in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/7.0-RELEASE/packages/java/ ? Cheers On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:20 PM, wrote: > I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java package > for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this package. Does it > exist? > > Thanks, > Dave Feustel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:35:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435A8106567C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CB48FC1B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 058461CC0A6; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:19:58 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Kris Kennaway , questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:35:34 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:13:25PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Kris Kennaway ???????(??): >> Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> My attempt to build openoffice.org-3 seems to be hanging. Pressing >>> Ctrl-T produces: >>> >>> load: 0.11 cmd: tcsh 79759 [sleeping without queue] 0.00u 0.00s >>> 0% 0k >>> >>> (tcsh is used by OOo's build-script). What is this "sleeping without >>> queue" state, and why is process in it for so long? >>> >>> This is an 4-CPU amd64 system with 4Gb of RAM. Only 16% of the swap >>> is currently in use and the box seems to be perfectly fine otherwise. >>> Uptime is 55 days, two different X-sessions are functional... The >>> kernel is FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37. >>> >>> Thanks! >> >> What is the process backtrace? > Hard to say... The process ID 79759. According to ps(1), that PID exists: > 79759 p6 DE+ 0:00,00 /bin/tcsh -fc > /meow/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/solver/300/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/makedepend > @/tmp/mk2WUYYi > ../../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/s_addincol.dpcc > According to gdb, it does not: > gdb 79759 > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...79759: No such file > or directory. Syntax appears wrong; "gdb [program] 79759" would be what you want. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:43:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB651065678 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7948FC0C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.20] (rrcs-74-218-226-253.se.biz.rr.com [74.218.226.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6MGhpJP078626; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:43:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:43:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080722162048.8D4F78FC0A@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080722162048.8D4F78FC0A@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807221243.47267.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: dfeustel@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:43:52 -0000 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java > package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this > package. Does it exist? Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD Foundation. See this link: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:45:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7427E1065677; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C1B8FC1D; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:45:00 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mikhail Teterin , stable@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:45:01 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:13:25PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Kris Kennaway ???????(??): >>> Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> My attempt to build openoffice.org-3 seems to be hanging. Pressing >>>> Ctrl-T produces: >>>> >>>> load: 0.11 cmd: tcsh 79759 [sleeping without queue] 0.00u 0.00s >>>> 0% 0k >>>> >>>> (tcsh is used by OOo's build-script). What is this "sleeping without >>>> queue" state, and why is process in it for so long? >>>> >>>> This is an 4-CPU amd64 system with 4Gb of RAM. Only 16% of the swap >>>> is currently in use and the box seems to be perfectly fine otherwise. >>>> Uptime is 55 days, two different X-sessions are functional... The >>>> kernel is FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>> What is the process backtrace? >> Hard to say... The process ID 79759. According to ps(1), that PID exists: >> 79759 p6 DE+ 0:00,00 /bin/tcsh -fc >> /meow/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/solver/300/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/makedepend >> @/tmp/mk2WUYYi > ../../../unxfbsdx.pro/misc/s_addincol.dpcc >> According to gdb, it does not: >> gdb 79759 >> GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] >> Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain >> conditions. >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. >> This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...79759: No such file >> or directory. > > Syntax appears wrong; "gdb [program] 79759" would be what you want. > Well, I mean kernel backtrace. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 16:46:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1318F1065678 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93CB8FC1B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 27897 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 16:46:49 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2008 16:46:49 -0000 Message-ID: <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:46:46 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:46:50 -0000 Kris Kennaway (): > Well, I mean kernel backtrace. Can I obtain that remotely and without restarting/panicking the box? Thanks, -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:01:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E8A1065670; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AFF8FC12; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48861284.1050706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:01:56 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:01:57 -0000 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Kris Kennaway (): >> Well, I mean kernel backtrace. > Can I obtain that remotely and without restarting/panicking the box? > Thanks, > > -mi > > kgdb on /dev/mem or procstat Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:09:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F401065692 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821DB8FC2C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 17825 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 17:09:30 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2008 17:09:29 -0000 Message-ID: <48861448.7020708@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:09:28 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> <48861284.1050706@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48861284.1050706@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , questions@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:09:30 -0000 Kris Kennaway (): > Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> Kris Kennaway (): >>> Well, I mean kernel backtrace. >> Can I obtain that remotely and without restarting/panicking the box? >> Thanks, > kgdb on /dev/mem or procstat root@aldan:~ (107) kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /dev/mem [...] (kgdb) bt #0 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () Error accessing memory address 0x0: Bad address. Even less luck with procstat: root@aldan:~ (108) locate procstat root@aldan:~ (109) procstat procstat: צ . root@aldan:~ (110) man procstat No manual entry for procstat I'm sorry, but you'll need to be more specific. What should I type? Thanks, -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:28:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D065106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A588FC1A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2339678rvf.43 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:28:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ak7e9JVgUQhygykzP8x6KUXsi+ObpLdXtf6aOZwA404=; b=KZYwMCME3tuXkhCFXQqAKcXoaLK2rvWkIQBHrTVBNGaKgUd++BwgBWw9Ed8LXR07M7 9akpsqZaN7aLq539kPrfpTMAIH15+Yi/1BHRj47/KnuncGFDL/HOpjiQEYNZDZlYySIj s4NBU3BmhupEBt+qGHg6T3/6YkvuSbphyyiRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Xoy3tWVjmRKTJQH5YOUAAw/M/hs94BwfXfYWrcYkERnDyl1tEY2wd+BUQdwCyS2grN JdhpVWN8mZ5gTEqNcPO7azfeyTziNASoqXIo9FsALJGn8RjNZRxu+8Nno5WQfI7PcYJZ Ta0WrMPglwz/Q03rAA//1YWEcH48DcGrn6Ec0= Received: by 10.140.201.1 with SMTP id y1mr29659rvf.246.1216747691542; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990807221028i467228afs7bad6e902a695ad8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:28:11 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080722003238.GB18067@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> <20080721150201.GA41544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080722003238.GB18067@kokopelli.hydra> Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:28:12 -0000 On 7/21/08, Chad Perrin wrote: > That wouldn't solve the problem of the US dollar being a fiat currency. > Basically, under a fiat currency, trying to financially plan for the > future is a matter of gambling the economy won't blow up in your face in > the interim -- which is anything but a sure bet. > All currency is fiat currency, unless you print it on toilet paper. Then it will have intrinsic value. Printing it on fish would work, too, but that would stink up your wallet. Gold is durable, but has no real intrinsic value. So print your money on toilet paper or food, then it will always have value. "I'll sell you a copy of FreeBSD for a beer, plus shipping." See how well that works? Don't even have to do currency conversions. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:49:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A523106576D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EE98FC0C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t2P51Z0040xGWP8545Zdl6; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:33:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t5Zc1Z00B4KuD453Y5Zckr; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:33:37 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IP17e_1XAAAA:8 a=gbbR56yFo3yJJp2qZpsA:9 a=Yx7E_AsqS05VJDdO_2IA:9 a=SBFiSJmpLY1sh18EYgxgg8Tc0dgA:4 a=OS7PZEPQ3MUA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: Dave To: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <200807221243.47267.lists@jnielsen.net> Message-Id: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:38 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: >On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: >> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java >> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this >> package. Does it exist? > >Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD >Foundation. See this link: > >http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml > >JN OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran bunzip2 to get tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper way to pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:51:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3A9106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YC=3c734ee5@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AC38FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+YC=3c734ee5@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C0B23E49A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:51:40 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722185140.25c022d4@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080722154742.GA43358@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> <20080722154742.GA43358@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:51:45 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:47:42 +0200 cpghost wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:56:24AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE > > nor GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. > > Are there any plans for implementing this in the future? What disk > > encryption softoware would you recommend for use with FreeBSD to > > provide hidden containers? > > Unless the containers are spread randomly across the partition > and are small enough, they WILL appear very prominently, because > they will usually have maximun entropy. > > To locate them, all a cyrptanalyst has to do is to look out for > regions on the partition with very high entropy, The trick is to hide the volume somewhere that is legitimately filled with random numbers. One simple way to do this is to simply argue that an encrypted partition was previously an ordinary partition has been securely erased by filling it with random numbers. Since this is a reasonable thing to do, it provides a significant level of plausible deniability. Unfortunately you can't do this with geli, because it's actually designed to be detectable (I'm not sure about gbde). Some encryption software goes much further by allowing one or more levels of nesting within volumes. The way it works is that you create a normal volume, put in some dummy files, and then create a second level container in the freespace. Since it's good practice to prefill freespace with random numbers, and some encryption software does it automatically, it's very had to detect the second level. The advantage of this is that even if someone knows that you are using encryption, and can compel you to give-up the passphase, you can still keep the real secrets hidden. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:57:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F17106566C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4760E8FC1A; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48861F72.5080509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:57:06 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Johnson References: <10989.172.24.169.213.1216491493.squirrel@webmail.lipetsk.ru> <48823535.6070306@FreeBSD.org> <200807191721.03418.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200807191801.57568.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <1216540522.6845.19.camel@dingo-laptop> <20080720144020.GA12401@kokopelli.hydra> <20080721150201.GA41544@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080722003238.GB18067@kokopelli.hydra> <54db43990807221028i467228afs7bad6e902a695ad8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54db43990807221028i467228afs7bad6e902a695ad8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What price at the license of FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:57:07 -0000 Bob Johnson wrote: > On 7/21/08, Chad Perrin wrote: > >> That wouldn't solve the problem of the US dollar being a fiat currency. >> Basically, under a fiat currency, trying to financially plan for the >> future is a matter of gambling the economy won't blow up in your face in >> the interim -- which is anything but a sure bet. >> > > All currency is fiat currency, unless you print it on toilet paper. > Then it will have intrinsic value. Printing it on fish would work, > too, but that would stink up your wallet. Gold is durable, but has no > real intrinsic value. So print your money on toilet paper or food, > then it will always have value. > > "I'll sell you a copy of FreeBSD for a beer, plus shipping." See how > well that works? Don't even have to do currency conversions. > > - Bob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Please take any further off-topic discussion to chat. Thanks! Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 18:23:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7D01065679 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FA68FC14 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:63820 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KLMW7-0001kG-54 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:23:19 +0200 Received: (qmail 57752 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 20:23:15 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 20:23:15 +0200 Received: (qmail 45069 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jul 2008 20:23:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:23:15 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KLMW7-0001kG-54. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KLMW7-0001kG-54 f7ddd1c50c463e46401269a3174446d4 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:23:20 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:09:17AM -0400, FreeBSD Questions wrote: > This book was printed in August 2004. This predates FBSD 5, and I > know there were some significant changes between the 4.x and 5.x > branches. We've progressed further and are now into version 7. How > well does this book apply to more current versions of FreeBSD, such as > version 7? The 2004 edition of that book does cover FreeBSD 5.2 (says so clearly on the cover anyway.) This means that all the major changes between 4.x and 5.x should be included in it. There have been many changes in FreeBSD since then, of course, but most of those changes have been fairly evolutionary in nature, so most of the book should still apply reasonably well. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 18:49:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BB2106568A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633768FC15 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MInbx7079035; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:49:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6MIna6n079032; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:49:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:49:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20080722185140.25c022d4@gumby.homeunix.com.> Message-ID: <20080722204905.U78974@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> <20080722154742.GA43358@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <20080722185140.25c022d4@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:46 -0000 >> To locate them, all a cyrptanalyst has to do is to look out for >> regions on the partition with very high entropy, > > The trick is to hide the volume somewhere that is legitimately filled > with random numbers. > why hiding the ENCRYPTED partition at all? what's a problem someone else will know that it exist, being unable to read what's inside. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 18:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ECB106566B for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697CA8FC1D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLMvt-000NmI-3A; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:49:58 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80926224CD00; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:49:50 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave wrote: | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this |>> package. Does it exist? |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD |> Foundation. See this link: |> |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml |> |> JN | | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran bunzip2 to get | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper way to | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? | | Thanks. Hi Dave, Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here troubleshoot the problem. Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIhivO0sRouByUApARAnQ+AKC60O+4ul2JCe/y27a+xwmGI3vJfQCfd/vi edJvr84nfS6hf0iDmmleQ3A= =BvbO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 18:57:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F551065672 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB4B8FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t3GZ1Z05G0bG4ec5A6wyX0; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t6xL1Z0084KuD453P6xLh9; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:57:20 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IP17e_1XAAAA:8 a=NvzTKOuWvoX0iheEclYA:9 a=7LtOtx8j2JjqfIx8XtQA:9 a=K7TGxdWWBkl6MuUcQNlVDgl5IKcA:4 a=OS7PZEPQ3MUA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: Dave To: Greg Larkin In-Reply-To: <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <20080722185721.7AB4B8FC1F@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:57:21 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:49:50PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Dave wrote: >| On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: >|> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: >|>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java >|>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this >|>> package. Does it exist? >|> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD >|> Foundation. See this link: >|> >|> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml >|> >|> JN >| >| OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but >| pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran >bunzip2 to get >| tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper >way to >| pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? >| >| Thanks. > >Hi Dave, > >Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the >files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here >troubleshoot the problem. Sure thing. But should I be pkg_add'ing the bz2 file or the tar file? If the bz2 file, I will have to download it again since it disappears when the tar file is recreated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:00:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4B010657CF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898C38FC59 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so582582ana.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1SS0WlrbYFJC8rGxhHpksXMeWyffBTKSReLCXgUGEdk=; b=YUnrPloezmsfySQdmFmEzWVwBhS7FlxMg0kDGZhmFi+MkYLkVRG5ggEx+OvMJuqa0B 1YVMgvrxk9//nkChXULkYZWd4IQjqB4CXdKbsSTCI0Fky/ZSCYT325NKVJGQavU5bA1l 3o6q6DcvLFvlwfCIuUJgeAIxQWck3npxBgrQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BqbptmqnNIZpswlZibpAGijvS55nEOJ7QQQ+OZVuoRl9m1FWvDrENA5/m9kVS2gClZ 4Ys+r0gbAP1p8X4d8odoPHje8pWu/Ai6hb+rlyMKSi9OasFnlXPNFQPWgIiVFCJ75Y1l k/f9MdC3P/B9KpMRC6cklGVstDwyOEvJtxoXk= Received: by 10.100.127.18 with SMTP id z18mr2688737anc.79.1216753233509; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.92.3 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:00:33 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: glarkin@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:00:35 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Dave wrote: > | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java > |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this > |>> package. Does it exist? > |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD > |> Foundation. See this link: > |> > |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml > |> > |> JN > | > | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but > | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran > bunzip2 to get > | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper > way to > | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? > | > | Thanks. > > Hi Dave, > > Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the > files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here > troubleshoot the problem. > > Best regards, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin > I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package? Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:13:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601DF106567E for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461438FC20 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLNIZ-000O8o-Vw; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:13:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D978F224CFC0; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48863152.7000209@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:13:22 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave References: <20080722185721.7AB4B8FC1F@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080722185721.7AB4B8FC1F@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:13:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave wrote: | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 02:49:50PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Dave wrote: |> | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: |> |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: |> |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java |> |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this |> |>> package. Does it exist? |> |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD |> |> Foundation. See this link: |> |> |> |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml |> |> |> |> JN |> | |> | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but |> | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran |> bunzip2 to get |> | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper |> way to |> | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? |> | |> | Thanks. |> |> Hi Dave, |> |> Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the |> files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here |> troubleshoot the problem. | | Sure thing. But should I be pkg_add'ing the bz2 file or the tar file? | If the bz2 file, I will have to download it again since it disappears when | the tar file is recreated. | | Hi Dave, You want to pkg_add the .bz2 file. Re-download it, and place it somewhere like ${HOME}/packages. Then run: pkg_add -v ${HOME}/packages/.bz2 The "-v" flag enables verbose messages, so reply with all of the command output. I don't know why the .bz2 file would disappear - I don't think it should, in general. I use pkg_add a lot and haven't seen that. Once you forward the pkg_add output, we should be able to figure out what's going on pretty quickly. Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIhjFS0sRouByUApARAgIRAJ48835VoYkWzrtpESfC4EFXw7J6KACgjLMc y+4ZSU8ZLNoQGsJUB7wp6YA= =MklK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:16:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B320106567C for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB588FC18 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLNLZ-000OBi-17; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:16:30 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D670C224D03D; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4886320B.7020004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:16:27 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:16:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gould wrote: | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: | |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Dave wrote: |> | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: |> |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: |> |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java |> |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this |> |>> package. Does it exist? |> |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD |> |> Foundation. See this link: |> |> |> |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml |> |> |> |> JN |> | |> | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but |> | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran |> bunzip2 to get |> | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper |> way to |> | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? |> | |> | Thanks. |> |> Hi Dave, |> |> Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the |> files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here |> troubleshoot the problem. |> |> Best regards, |> Greg |> - -- |> Greg Larkin |> | | | I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: | | # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 | pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package? | | Andrew Hi Andrew, Ok, I'm doing the same now and will report back with my findings. Dave, hold tight for a bit. Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFIhjIL0sRouByUApARAsIZAJi6Q31V/WZaTEHsrdNYXXSJdDrOAJ9WyBPq NonQXy0f8I/z0Cdj3AnuEA== =X/uL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:22:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9C1106567E for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462228FC2A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so755541ywe.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HNkq95806DXhpk42MSriDcnoZSyGlPzJooa6v3U+eLk=; b=fK603uYFduP8X0GKQskss0eWVDAt/TXpemmat0lw2mtKFr4OuylitjS2GoOdzzHE3J uPOkNVqhfGbYZFfTgSUhQFwaRtt2TdkXBwtFLXqmBwECKwk+8gJWn04/DUp19pjcx3WC rv80AowSoNjjK1tObnRVv8EDmEbskcT5xt4nU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=yF+Nv9bBfI0o2lWLaL2OJZ4Us8StoS3ZEQzCnOb07Q5/hTCvO4RhONZ1wQd7r80yri ypau9YDd2D1Ls8Z4mysxKAFV2C1vUcgppjkhEu0P56IBCyKqig2YVXC1++p83K8PRvI/ 0wDqXZuX7gNa61sVDSUnAFkoQKYE+Aq8xG+e4= Received: by 10.150.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr5938649ybw.24.1216754545234; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.225.21 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:22:25 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: glarkin@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4886320B.7020004@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> <4886320B.7020004@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:26 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Gould wrote: > | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin > wrote: > | > |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > |> Hash: SHA1 > |> > |> Dave wrote: > |> | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > |> |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > |> |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install > Java > |> |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this > |> |>> package. Does it exist? > |> |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the > FreeBSD > |> |> Foundation. See this link: > |> |> > |> |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml > |> |> > |> |> JN > |> | > |> | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd > 7, but > |> | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran > |> bunzip2 to get > |> | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper > |> way to > |> | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? > |> | > |> | Thanks. > |> > |> Hi Dave, > |> > |> Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the > |> files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here > |> troubleshoot the problem. > |> > |> Best regards, > |> Greg > |> - -- > |> Greg Larkin > |> > | > | > | I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: > | > | # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 > | pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a > package? > | > | Andrew > > Hi Andrew, > > Ok, I'm doing the same now and will report back with my findings. > > Dave, hold tight for a bit. > > Best regards, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin > Here's the results of pkg_add with the "v" option: # pkg_add -v diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 Requested space: 256372980 bytes, free space: 1546737664 bytes in /var/tmpinstmp.uQ3Sre pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package? pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:22:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DBC1065690 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7548FC21 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D17346CB; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:22:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:22:35 +0200 From: cpghost To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080722192235.GA69067@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> <20080722154742.GA43358@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <20080722185140.25c022d4@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080722204905.U78974@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080722204905.U78974@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:22:39 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 08:49:36PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> To locate them, all a cyrptanalyst has to do is to look out for > >> regions on the partition with very high entropy, > > > > The trick is to hide the volume somewhere that is legitimately filled > > with random numbers. > > > why hiding the ENCRYPTED partition at all? what's a problem someone else > will know that it exist, being unable to read what's inside. It depends where you live. In some places out there, having encrypted data alone is already suspicious and can put you a risk, physically and for real. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:26:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14943106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE238FC20 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 29769 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 19:26:34 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jul 2008 19:26:33 -0000 Message-ID: <48863465.8080204@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:26:29 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kostik Belousov References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> <48861284.1050706@FreeBSD.org> <48861448.7020708@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722192155.GC17123@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20080722192155.GC17123@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Kris Kennaway , questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:26:36 -0000 Kostik Belousov (): > Did you switched to the process before doing backtrace (using the proc > command)? Ok, thanks. Did not know about this one. Here: ... (kgdb) proc 79759 (kgdb) bt #0 sched_switch (td=0xffffff01286dc000, newtd=0xffffff00010ce000, flags=2) at /var/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:928 #1 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #2 0xffffffff802f1108 in mi_switch (flags=678281216, newtd=0x2) at /var/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:442 #3 0xffffffff80318513 in sleepq_check_timeout () at /var/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:519 #4 0xffffffff80318c85 in sleepq_timedwait (wchan=0xffffffff80688408) at /var/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:597 #5 0xffffffff802f16a2 in _sleep (ident=0xffffffff80688408, lock=0x0, priority=0, wmesg=0xffffffff804f3059 "vmo_de", timo=1) at /var/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:224 #6 0xffffffff8043036b in vm_object_deallocate (object=0xffffff0053024a90) at /var/src/sys/vm/vm_object.c:509 #7 0xffffffff8042920e in vm_map_delete (map=0xffffff0015ba4b60, start=18446742979242478224, end=140737488355328) at /var/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2315 #8 0xffffffff804293df in vm_map_remove (map=0xffffff0015ba4b60, start=0, end=140737488355328) at /var/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2423 #9 0xffffffff8042b813 in vmspace_exit (td=0xffffff01286dc000) at /var/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:324 #10 0xffffffff802c8cff in exit1 (td=0xffffff01286dc000, rv=0) at /var/src/sys/kern/kern_exit.c:294 #11 0xffffffff802ca08e in sys_exit (td=Variable "td" is not available. ) at /var/src/sys/kern/kern_exit.c:98 #12 0xffffffff8045a700 in syscall (frame=0xffffffffb0d89c70) at /var/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:852 #13 0xffffffff8043f38b in Xfast_syscall () at /var/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:290 #14 0x000000080095f34c in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > What is the exact version of the system ? Note that procstat > appeared in the late RELENG_7. FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 8 16:02:37 EST 2008 > > Also, show the output of ps axl . UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS MWCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 79759 79758 0 96 0 0 16 - DE+ p6 0:00,00 /bin/tcsh -fc /meow/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/solver/300/unxfbsdx.pro/bin/ma Yours, -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:31:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD27D1065677 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ABC8FC1E for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLNZs-000OSx-Tw; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:31:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C66C224D200; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48863582.3080204@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:31:14 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:31:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gould wrote: | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: | |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Dave wrote: |> | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: |> |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: |> |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install Java |> |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this |> |>> package. Does it exist? |> |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the FreeBSD |> |> Foundation. See this link: |> |> |> |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml |> |> |> |> JN |> | |> | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd 7, but |> | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran |> bunzip2 to get |> | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper |> way to |> | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? |> | |> | Thanks. |> |> Hi Dave, |> |> Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the |> files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here |> troubleshoot the problem. |> |> Best regards, |> Greg |> - -- |> Greg Larkin |> | | | I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: | | # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 | pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package? | | Andrew Ok, I finally see what's going on here. The web page reads: Packages ~ --Available Soon Tarballs ~ These Tarballs were used to generate the packages. They are useful if you don't use packages or as distribution files for the diablo ports. All you are downloading is a tarball that can be extracted directly into /usr/local. Once the packages are available, they will be posted to the page, and you'll be able to use pkg_add to manage them. This is the fully fleshed-out page for Java 5: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java15.shtml Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIhjWC0sRouByUApARAnwiAJoDrsqQyBT6pq81oCOHIgyhzpiJvgCfY//E 1yrnEXix6mvwowY7kpSJgzE= =5CpK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:34:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBCB1065680 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297058FC13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MJXouw079304; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:33:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6MJXo4O079301; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:33:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:33:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20080722192235.GA69067@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Message-ID: <20080722213234.M79300@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> <20080722154742.GA43358@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <20080722185140.25c022d4@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080722204905.U78974@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080722192235.GA69067@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:34:03 -0000 >> will know that it exist, being unable to read what's inside. > > It depends where you live. In some places out there, having encrypted ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Within few years it won't. now it mostly doesn't. everywhere everyone is treated as criminal... > data alone is already suspicious and can put you a risk, physically > and for real. well partition looking mostly as random data is suspicious too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:46:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230791065687 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D431A8FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so352660yxb.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4a4yoYwBj45q536ozjiqcwZKAdK+nb9nBVTjheafSSU=; b=dcjYr5P92oW4ElulKqoD9ZL4wjagLSLE3T1f7mbjfQQdka/WSXEwFVUoryRMjEJ5pr ouCIYCkJzIzdCnrWKCVyPkNJyugWm76h9gxYme0KvM059ksyyK9UC3jz9egZlY9Z83ya c8TIEAMefPBo6ZUhUwsZgO+T6EIXX2DhzX5pM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vLfCpwhy7h7MNuSWuFH1FmNQd0WrTtOA2pAb9u0wi3wF4ps3jtvYuTC544nIeX6AUw 0xc5z2ERd9gC7FHWt7jMZwSDHQ8auzmQK8F4TXH3IuNI9YWjI/KfAJBYBtYvqZaD96o3 Vs6H4/LUzoG/ifPAWv54wGEkPgWBVcDB4aDiE= Received: by 10.150.84.17 with SMTP id h17mr5942688ybb.206.1216755995927; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.225.21 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:46:35 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: glarkin@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <48863582.3080204@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> <48863582.3080204@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:46:37 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Gould wrote: > | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin > wrote: > | > |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > |> Hash: SHA1 > |> > |> Dave wrote: > |> | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43:47PM -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > |> |> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 12:20:48 pm dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > |> |>> I read in _Absolute FreeBSD_ that there is now an easy-to-install > Java > |> |>> package for 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0, but I have so far not found this > |> |>> package. Does it exist? > |> |> Yes. These packages are created. licensed and maintained by the > FreeBSD > |> |> Foundation. See this link: > |> |> > |> |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml > |> |> > |> |> JN > |> | > |> | OK. I visited the link and downloaded the JDK and JRE for Freebsd > 7, but > |> | pkg_add fails, saying it cannot decode the CONTENTS file. I ran > |> bunzip2 to get > |> | tar files, but pkg_add fails with the tar file too. What's the proper > |> way to > |> | pkg_add these two files to get a working Java system? > |> | > |> | Thanks. > |> > |> Hi Dave, > |> > |> Can you post the exact output from pkg_add when it fails to install the > |> files your downloaded? That will probably help me or someone else here > |> troubleshoot the problem. > |> > |> Best regards, > |> Greg > |> - -- > |> Greg Larkin > |> > | > | > | I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: > | > | # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 > | pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a > package? > | > | Andrew > > Ok, I finally see what's going on here. The web page reads: > > Packages > > ~ --Available Soon > > Tarballs > > ~ These Tarballs were used to generate the packages. They are useful > if you don't use packages or as distribution files for the diablo ports. > > > All you are downloading is a tarball that can be extracted directly into > /usr/local. Once the packages are available, they will be posted to the > page, and you'll be able to use pkg_add to manage them. > > This is the fully fleshed-out page for Java 5: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java15.shtml > > Hope that helps, > Greg > Oops. Sorry for the fuss. Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:52:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D33B106578F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA6C8FC20 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLNuA-000Oo0-FJ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:52:16 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090BA224D481; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48863A6A.6090603@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:52:10 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: <20080722174937.B5EE98FC0C@mx1.freebsd.org> <48862BCE.7080003@FreeBSD.org> <48863582.3080204@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:52:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gould wrote: | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: | |> |> All you are downloading is a tarball that can be extracted directly into |> /usr/local. Once the packages are available, they will be posted to the |> page, and you'll be able to use pkg_add to manage them. |> |> This is the fully fleshed-out page for Java 5: |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java15.shtml |> |> Hope that helps, |> Greg |> | | Oops. Sorry for the fuss. | | Thanks, | | Andrew Hi Andrew, No worries - I had to look at the page a couple of times to figure out what was going on! Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIhjpq0sRouByUApARAgIJAJ0YBRr99kP3xJ09XJlW0zjwNdPPwgCfSnjg l0H3G1TpiukxrVFibS1WVkE= =a8nq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:54:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0095D106566C; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (skuns.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554EE8FC14; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MJLtmE047673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:21:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MJLtd7075208; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:21:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6MJLtDW075207; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:21:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:21:55 +0300 From: Kostik Belousov To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20080722192155.GC17123@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> <48861284.1050706@FreeBSD.org> <48861448.7020708@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ccySeEbMfjxkcnOC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48861448.7020708@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: Kris Kennaway , questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:54:43 -0000 --ccySeEbMfjxkcnOC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 01:09:28PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Kris Kennaway =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=D7(=CC=C1): > >Mikhail Teterin wrote: > >>Kris Kennaway =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=D7(=CC=C1): > >>>Well, I mean kernel backtrace. > >>Can I obtain that remotely and without restarting/panicking the box?=20 > >>Thanks, > >kgdb on /dev/mem or procstat > root@aldan:~ (107) kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /dev/mem > [...] > (kgdb) bt > #0 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > Error accessing memory address 0x0: Bad address. >=20 > Even less luck with procstat: >=20 > root@aldan:~ (108) locate procstat > root@aldan:~ (109) procstat > procstat: =EE=C5=D7?=C4=CF=CD=C1 =CB=CF=CD=C1=CE=C4=C1. > root@aldan:~ (110) man procstat > No manual entry for procstat >=20 > I'm sorry, but you'll need to be more specific. What should I type? Thank= s, Did you switched to the process before doing backtrace (using the proc command) ? What is the exact version of the system ? Note that procstat appeared in the late RELENG_7. Also, show the output of ps axl . --ccySeEbMfjxkcnOC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiGM1EACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4i1GQCeKdXwhZ8vMvn3vn32c/qpPS0t yXwAniVeqfbnnS+VtS0kEL1SNURtFy8D =RCc9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ccySeEbMfjxkcnOC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:55:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5720B10656E7 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AC58FC16 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t7uj1Z00217dt5G547vpsW; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:55:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t7vQ1Z00J4KuD453Z7vRYo; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:55:25 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tWDXJP4BAAAA:8 a=IP17e_1XAAAA:8 a=jZOrXyybER3yeqXjIbkA:9 a=gSAHBF81Diwvd-6VIhcA:9 a=hVqTM19NYoTjX_PxIdQ6Ga-f9FsA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: Dave To: Greg Larkin In-Reply-To: <48863582.3080204@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <20080722195550.93AC58FC16@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:55:53 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 03:31:14PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Andrew Gould wrote: >| On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: >| >|> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >|> Hash: SHA1 >|> >|> - -- >|> Greg Larkin >|> >| >| >| I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: >| >| # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 >| pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a >package? >| >| Andrew > >Ok, I finally see what's going on here. The web page reads: > >Packages > >~ --Available Soon > >Tarballs > >~ These Tarballs were used to generate the packages. They are useful >if you don't use packages or as distribution files for the diablo ports. > > >All you are downloading is a tarball that can be extracted directly into >/usr/local. Once the packages are available, they will be posted to the >page, and you'll be able to use pkg_add to manage them. > >This is the fully fleshed-out page for Java 5: >http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java15.shtml > >Hope that helps, >Greg OK, I understand. Is there any documentation about enviroment changes (paths,symbols,load paths) needed to make Java work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 20:10:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6440C106573A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0848FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KLOBQ-000P3J-Ky; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:10:06 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441F2224D6CF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48863E99.9070804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:10:01 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave References: <20080722195550.93AC58FC16@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080722195550.93AC58FC16@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:10:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dave wrote: | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 03:31:14PM -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Andrew Gould wrote: |> | On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: |> | |> |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> |> |> - -- |> |> Greg Larkin |> |> |> | |> | |> | I just downloaded diablo-caffe for FreeBSD7 (i386) with similar results: |> | |> | # pkg_add diablo-caffe-freebsd7-i386-1.6.0_07-b02.tar.bz2 |> | pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a |> package? |> | |> | Andrew |> |> Ok, I finally see what's going on here. The web page reads: |> |> Packages |> |> ~ --Available Soon |> |> Tarballs |> |> ~ These Tarballs were used to generate the packages. They are useful |> if you don't use packages or as distribution files for the diablo ports. |> |> |> All you are downloading is a tarball that can be extracted directly into |> /usr/local. Once the packages are available, they will be posted to the |> page, and you'll be able to use pkg_add to manage them. |> |> This is the fully fleshed-out page for Java 5: |> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java15.shtml |> |> Hope that helps, |> Greg | | OK, I understand. Is there any documentation about enviroment changes | (paths,symbols,load paths) needed to make Java work? Hi Dave, I think your best bet is to install the java/javavmwrapper (http://www.freshports.org/java/javavmwrapper/) port. That script configures the proper Java environment variables for you and allows you to switch between JVMs, if you have more than one. Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIhj6Z0sRouByUApARAuBDAJ4w6jrwHcy+H5mcBqu0YRQOH7OCnQCff+JG XagMdOABBa/s0PYkS8cL3tE= =KMio -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 20:12:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0241010656C4 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22238FC1A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so590128ana.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.215.14 with SMTP id n14mr2719297ang.148.1216757559815; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.233.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d22sm7362594and.2.2008.07.22.13.12.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:12:33 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080722161233.153ef9d6@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/.2UyTB9l_CBzajUdbW3RTo4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Missing 'libnpp.so' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:41 -0000 --Sig_/.2UyTB9l_CBzajUdbW3RTo4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using FreeBSD-6.3, I have attempted several times to install 'opera-linuxplugins', but without success. In each instance an error message stating: /usr/local/share/opera/plugins/libnpp.so: No such file or directory. I cannot seem to locate this file anywhere on my system. I have removed Opera from the system and reinstalled it to no avail. How can I correct the problem? --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net System checkpoint complete. --Sig_/.2UyTB9l_CBzajUdbW3RTo4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiGPzEACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMm6DwCfbXcWKZCKGjHnPBSR+MDxY2nW icQAoNirUNxWSqSGnTI0v+ayOX41Gbkn =yl/f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/.2UyTB9l_CBzajUdbW3RTo4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 20:17:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264691065673 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030408FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2429950rvf.43 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=S90rNgSzm2JDuoJ+5bUZ4ZyyHjOiHFXSkt6OZQOvNYA=; b=VLH/edz8YXnjPPMvDk4GzEdsItbz19yiCvOhOOY/CGtrST7WREFlx4PoLDWdSFWiWp A+nynhWIVkWKvgK+XzDeWSTIBDwz4tp+5vSMKhutaI0QgMCAmFAxNVcDReVDqn5YMCUs WNM6+71D4uD5Hu0qNHT4+iB6Hd8eRWsuKIftY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=exKqPAfzg1QCpZJdvGnwnmLEgAKJ4k9pzIpOCs4W7w+MdUXhNmXljZVdQ2WZXGPgm0 UTNBVvM+NF2Nym4q8CCT+KWjXaIsKtcs4OAM8764zDx7QRytiRz2H9BNchjsqCWQqkQk 2KhYVTxzgisgVYRpaesG9AcvDfjjeokczBAeE= Received: by 10.141.163.12 with SMTP id q12mr120292rvo.190.1216757863624; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.248.15 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990807221317m240f8658x29cf0981aa635675@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:17:43 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Prakash Poudyal" In-Reply-To: <1428d0e80807220120s11ca7ea0v3466b3bd3defe38e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1428d0e80807220120s11ca7ea0v3466b3bd3defe38e@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tips about saving text in Easy Editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:17:44 -0000 On 7/22/08, Prakash Poudyal wrote: > Hello Everybody > > Here I want to know some tips of the Easy Editor. Can any body say the > Key word that will save the text of Easy Editor. Like you know we used > to Esc :w in case in VIM Editor. So please if any body know please > reply me. I want to know way of directly saving in Easy Editor. > Thank Press Esc and it will give you a menu that you will find helpful. I think "Esc c c" is what you want, or "Esc Enter Enter" if you want to save and exit. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 20:31:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB34106564A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617C88FC0A for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so773271ywe.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=1RBHHpHNWQL03ifcSokoCIN2NZcGWzbOpRlLJb8lCD4=; b=GN2z7YV10jTeYwQYPhm/pBL8KSk31DlKaA+b2EDO/DMxyZ4rIEA2iOUV61kmLeYMM+ 2KDchcUPguc8GMul8QggNYHrcoHzK0FnPb4sPeszHGCZNOSrbwb9C/D2oszI3MQWxLd0 wjpH0aq6f445KUaPz752XMTYyuhW4yYF6qsZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YlmP/oHepM3WCNHEtzK/o3Ldlj56/YydzcnYd6sX0I1Wxls6xCcGdgP0MW3fZhZl+5 KrXPa2Zh8Mq7sGWTrr167BjiPHs/BH2IdPTfs76EYJSYXeTroKdylG+QyH/s/n7tgZq/ 6yn4L1Br8Z5JdUySmGoAebqcct63KaFMzgCfI= Received: by 10.114.12.9 with SMTP id 9mr4141763wal.121.1216757126661; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.95.6 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:05:26 +0200 From: VeeJay To: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:31:47 -0000 Hi there I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... *Hardware:* Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. *Tools:* 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release 2. Apache 2.2.9 3. MySQL 5.1.26 4. PHP 5.2.6 My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? *OR* Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example giving command line arguments and commands like ./configure --prefix=/www --enable-module=so make make install cd ../php-xxx ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=/www/bin/apxs make make install etc.... I have googled but still haven't reached to solution...personally I would prefer comiling them with command line arguments but then I seek some help from you guys i.e. How should I write this ./configure......stuff in FreeBSD and what would be the best options combination, I must choose to get the speed, performane and security in Apache, MySQL and PHP? Any suggestion is very welcomed! -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 20:36:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C33106567D for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from nov.smartt.com (nov.smartt.com [69.31.173.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D048FC24 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from [69.31.174.220] ([69.31.174.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by nov.smartt.com (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m6MKaDkG004373; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:36:13 -0700 Message-ID: <488644C6.9020801@smartt.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:36:22 -0700 From: Chris St Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: VeeJay References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on nov.smartt.com Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:36:15 -0000 VeeJay wrote: > Hi there > > I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per > month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have > proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and > Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... > *Hardware:* > Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core > 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. > > *Tools:* > 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release > 2. Apache 2.2.9 > 3. MySQL 5.1.26 > 4. PHP 5.2.6 > > My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": > > Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? > > *OR* > Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example giving command > line arguments and commands like > > ./configure --prefix=/www --enable-module=so > make > make install > cd ../php-xxx > ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=/www/bin/apxs > make > make install > > etc.... > > I have googled but still haven't reached to solution...personally I would > prefer comiling them with command line arguments > but then I seek some help from you guys i.e. > > How should I write this ./configure......stuff in FreeBSD and what would be > the best options combination, I must choose to get the speed, performane and > security in Apache, MySQL and PHP? > > Any suggestion is very welcomed! > > Best to just use the ports. They take care of all of the dependencies for you and have extra patches to make them work optimally for FreeBSD. Why ./configure by hand when the port's makefile will do it for you? -- Chris St Denis Programmer SmarttNet (www.smartt.com) Ph: 604-473-9700 Ext. 200 ------------------------------------------- "Smart Internet Solutions For Businesses" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 20:40:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B721710656A1 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F138FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6MKeE2L021784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:40:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <488645AE.5000707@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:40:14 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris St Denis References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <488644C6.9020801@smartt.com> In-Reply-To: <488644C6.9020801@smartt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m6MKeE2L021784 X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:40:39 -0000 Chris St Denis wrote: > VeeJay wrote: >> Hi there >> >> I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per >> month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have >> proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and >> Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... >> *Hardware:* >> Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core >> 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. >> >> *Tools:* >> 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release >> 2. Apache 2.2.9 >> 3. MySQL 5.1.26 >> 4. PHP 5.2.6 >> >> My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": >> >> Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? >> >> *OR* >> Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example giving >> command >> line arguments and commands like >> >> ./configure --prefix=/www --enable-module=so >> make >> make install >> cd ../php-xxx >> ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=/www/bin/apxs >> make >> make install >> >> etc.... >> >> I have googled but still haven't reached to solution...personally I would >> prefer comiling them with command line arguments >> but then I seek some help from you guys i.e. >> >> How should I write this ./configure......stuff in FreeBSD and what >> would be >> the best options combination, I must choose to get the speed, >> performane and >> security in Apache, MySQL and PHP? >> >> Any suggestion is very welcomed! >> >> > Best to just use the ports. They take care of all of the dependencies > for you and have extra patches to make them work optimally for FreeBSD. > > Why ./configure by hand when the port's makefile will do it for you? > +1 Also, using ports makes it much easier to update systems with portupdate later on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 21:06:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949ED1065694 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E058FC13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so783747ywe.13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:06:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=vHEPFIomStNnbKgvlip3we6+Fbh2aDBOQQNsNi7OaDo=; b=JFgC2o7+9rHWfvFZ1SY7pSVBVFc3CBcKMpJxBs3epnI/ZYv8ZhUOeN8Ks+KJ8Cz5Pp TFidzEI3VwIPmSrO/9h08O2kTrD4SQTjYCQuhBucK3mU3kyywgB4ErwzjXNTqBBYRzxj 0fThAtNZEmcG37XQPj9udJMkPL0Ti2hrJdjrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=mdeQDzmGFcKDfAaVTMwGc1VgQG2ONY9XAOdlzpRrlKYUsKyO+wPE0dkGIa+Wl7oBxe TxVmLzBFUJlxmiZI5EGsbRQBxkwiE7SqRTOPkqtf0cvEwJUi4PE2KSDqP4P/ZeQQ9VW5 9PTXvHT1h5vA/zQK3RP/IB/MIcJ1VDpuqQ9uI= Received: by 10.151.155.21 with SMTP id h21mr4298171ybo.53.1216760771357; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 200-117-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.117.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm198789ywd.8.2008.07.22.14.06.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:06:06 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:06:12 -0000 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 15:23:15 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:09:17AM -0400, FreeBSD Questions wrote: > > This book was printed in August 2004. This predates FBSD 5, and I > > know there were some significant changes between the 4.x and 5.x > > branches. We've progressed further and are now into version 7. How > > well does this book apply to more current versions of FreeBSD, such as > > version 7? > > The 2004 edition of that book does cover FreeBSD 5.2 (says so clearly on > the cover anyway.) This means that all the major changes between 4.x and > 5.x should be included in it. > There have been many changes in FreeBSD since then, of course, but most of > those changes have been fairly evolutionary in nature, so most of the book > should still apply reasonably well. Actually .. I'd be more than willing to buy an updated version of that book too .. I _do_ undertand your point of view but to be honest, I'd rather buy a new copy that prints everything up to _yesterday_ and that has at least some hints into tomorrow ... Yet your point is completly valid one.. and that's why "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" is the only book that I've been hesitant on buying so far ... Lucas (Absolute FreeBSD, 2nd Edition), Lavigne (The Best of FreeBSD Basics), Kong (BSD rootkits), Lehey (Download edition:) ) are all over my desktop as I write this mail, and I consult them daily ... Farrokhi (Network Administration with FreeBSD) and Hong (Building a Server with FreeBSD 7) are the ones coming in the next batch ... So far .. there are only three books I would have bought but I didn't because I thought the situation could improve ... those are: "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System", "BSD Hacks" and "The FreeBSD HandBook"... same reason for all of them .. too old by now (although I think I'll buy "BSD Hacks" anyways .. I just can't resist buying Lavigne books :( ) (let alone the fact that I would rather buy them all through freebsdmall.com that from amazon .. I think freebsdmall would do good if they would offer the whole Reed's Media library and the No Starch Press BSD related titles ... i would surely buy everything from them =P) Finally; Editor, Publisher, _Dear_Writer_: if you guys are hesitant .. I think there's at least two copies of an updated version of "The Design and Implementation .. " already sold with a lot more on the way :) -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 21:16:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B828A1065683 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cschoca@sandia.gov) Received: from sentry.sandia.gov (sentry.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2E38FC15 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cschoca@sandia.gov) Received: from [134.253.165.159] by sentry.sandia.gov with ESMTP (SMTP Relay 01 (Email Firewall v6.3.1)); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:54:53 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: AA8306FD-23D1-4E5B-B133-B2D9F10C3631 Received: from ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.165.152]) by Cas1.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.165.159]) with mapi; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:54:52 -0600 From: "Chocas, Connie S" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:54:51 -0600 Thread-Topic: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification Thread-Index: AcjsPS/YXP7cR7+iSf+jfUFepmBlCA== Message-ID: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20080722205457; SEV=2.2.2; DFV=B2008072218; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-9; AIF=B2008072218; RPD=5.02.0125; ENG=IBF; RPDID=7374723D303030312E30413031303230332E34383836343932312E303032422C73733D312C6667733D30; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: B2008072218_5.02.0125_4.0-9 X-WSS-ID: 649896972J43294190-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:16:12 -0000 I would appreciate you assistance in providing the U.S. Commerce Department= Export Control Classification for FreeBSD 6.3. Thank you, Connie Chocas Sandia National Laboratories Classification and Export Control Phone: (505) 844-5982; Fax: (505) 284-4927 Email: cschoca@sandia.gov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 21:51:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E01065677 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=082004bd1@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D211D8FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=082004bd1@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,233,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4873122" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 16:22:05 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 088AB23DDF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:05 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:51:08 -0000 --On Tuesday, July 22, 2008 22:05:26 +0200 VeeJay wrote: > Hi there > > I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per > month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have > proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and > Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... > *Hardware:* > Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core > 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. > > *Tools:* > 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release > 2. Apache 2.2.9 > 3. MySQL 5.1.26 > 4. PHP 5.2.6 > > My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": > > Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? > > *OR* > Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example giving command > line arguments and commands like > This seems to be a common misperception about ports. Ports aren't something magical. They do exactly what you would do from the commandline (i.e. ./configure, make, make install), except they come with several bonuses. 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to make it compile and install properly on FreeBSD. 2) The port maintainer has already supplied patches that allow the software to build correctly on FreeBSD. 3) All the dependencies are already taken care of. 4) Upgrading is quite simple and straightforward. 5) The software is now architechture-independent (in most cases), meaning you can move from Intel to AMD (for example) without having to worry that the software will no longer build and you'll have to start from scratch again. For example, I decided today that I wanted to try out some software named "arguseye". So I downloaded and untarred the program. I looked at the dependencies. It requires a number of perl modules, some of which are not in ports. So, I just created three new perl ports to satisfy those dependencies and submitted them this afternoon. Once those are accepted into the tree, I'll create the arguseye port and submit it as well. Then, when someone else wants to install arguseye, all they will have to do is type "make install clean" in the port directory and everything that they need will be installed for them. Unless you're a glutton for punishment, why would you do all that yourself? And spend hours googling for solutions, writing your own patches when required, etc., etc.? And figuring out how to get the modules installed in the right place, remembering where you put them when you decide to uninstall or upgrade them, updating @INC so they can be found when you run your scripts, etc., etc., etc.? Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to work, be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 22:11:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78281065684 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from human2205@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1B18FC13 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from human2205@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so7780608hue.8 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:11:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=g3DWTDF6DV8sh5Wmg6eZbxoWW8uLtpRKKyMP0vaoR3w=; b=o9Gnza2FanK2uUIe+fLnX4ojwEIMOnE+DsiZpN8Kn1vN1PrMYZsdFc4aiYkmHYRTQb J5jFZlbk+qIVTSV51IXWGL/7yEWuweVHAvNHthCZqUlR5/e/Iopmy+v84gJCBJrFLCvi 867n0QSdYn2q76+DVtxIDLiyhmxS5gDFoCYCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AAl1E3C4t4Sg6S4HRZcJYAfHjUhpOa7bbGaTNWFX/vFXYRayoSIA3uJLYq/TQfoGn0 WNIRqdCyaVdkp7iCivAAXa6EPbOflxRnb4nxOlwkGYhIWbIG2izfxyZo0VdjRMJ8dE+4 5QNbCxpYhSXDvBTg0FkpVhOByqeGLJDLpHS3A= Received: by 10.124.67.16 with SMTP id p16mr369145mka.179.1216764689022; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.157.4 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <818ba6630807221511g6d7cd467t4be51ddcca458b99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:11:28 +0000 From: J.C. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <818ba6630807211708m192d72acx240a6f73cfb8d308@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Very Beginning CVSup Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:11:30 -0000 Thanks to everyone for the help! - Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 23:10:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399221065687 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F159E8FC1F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so14131567agc.3 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:10:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HVkW0zv7ZAtVqFdvbRer4l004hFYEeTmqPEQJzrT9oY=; b=YgTq/H3+7BNpBhKnfjwKtCIFYN8/vhKEnEy9ayFhAAvE4I9Xx0KEkE8EkHnaVi6eC4 fawPa6LmhC8HOaN2Ywgm3bfzgly6FfKKPBNiWE82tNfeuKnHx/1UH56LlxtOyzn3sSxX 5LtQytGr1hE+RnHG+DOuhV15fhvrDQj/UDE58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=t+j7D4rtwwHq4fScnrD5kdLanEg4akzVWx+nYVIia6w1PVvf2NMnYnkDROctuLBmOj sVNuNcVTcqSYSudES1Pdj9LRuKsonBf3SiVudGLmKaVFzdAiZuFT1QztZMEx1S5IjWSC yQIRQGnT4R3KdlN0FQcMyC2na6CeYAR6TPC6o= Received: by 10.100.166.9 with SMTP id o9mr2828382ane.36.1216767279713; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.13 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f3feb90807221554u14fad52ep2bb77b486c6f251a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:54:39 -0400 From: "darko gavrilovic" To: "Chocas, Connie S" In-Reply-To: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:10:12 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/where.html On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Chocas, Connie S wrote: > I would appreciate you assistance in providing the U.S. Commerce Department > Export Control Classification for FreeBSD 6.3. > Thank you, > > Connie Chocas > Sandia National Laboratories > Classification and Export Control > Phone: (505) 844-5982; Fax: (505) 284-4927 > Email: cschoca@sandia.gov > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, dg "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals and shorts. Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that I was wrong. You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 23:39:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C8F106567E for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dell.vfemail.net [69.11.239.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670558FC15 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 71269 invoked by uid 89); 22 Jul 2008 23:39:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO inmail.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Jul 2008 23:39:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 71242 invoked by uid 89); 22 Jul 2008 23:39:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.20) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Jul 2008 23:39:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 89078 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jul 2008 23:39:23 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 89019, pid: 89074, t: 0.1872s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO bofh-enc.shahriars.net) (freebsd@vfemail.net@69.11.239.68) by mail.vfemail.net with ESMTPA; 22 Jul 2008 23:39:23 -0000 Message-ID: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:37:30 +0000 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080531) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:39:44 -0000 Dear folks my sincere apologies if this has been discussed earlier, which I seriously doubt, since even after googling for nearly five days I couldn't find any solution. Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The earlier 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for me without any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it simply gives me ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer I know for a fact that the server is working fine, since all IE and remote desktop softwares are working (they have to install the certificate at the beginning, once). But how can I connect from my freebsd box? any pointers/links sujjestions are highly welcome. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 00:49:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22714106566B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79CB18FC24 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 85006 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 00:49:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pgF/YVyZYYnUoD4lOITN02JOrR3n/BJacMlGIaGOXNRPbWLFixbOIRAMOGHgk+PZyylRVDLyYY5gm9NlShWZgRZp9oON2WqJW09vTbMr1ULvi024ObgsLH2PS+l9klwZjKo9KMSkZ2uWZ/EqCQQ7tkUDooS/bV4ye7B/d+jQyRw=; Received: from [98.169.13.4] by web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <161366.84805.qm@web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: freebsd wireless question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:49:04 -0000 hello: i installed cisco aironet 802.11a/b/g wirless adapter on 6.3 and have some issues. basically it works like charm with wpa2/dhcp, but it doesn't work with wpa2/static ip address. here is my working configuration for rc.conf ifconfig_ath0="ssid home WPA DCHP" everything works: authentication, dhcp process, ip address binding to the interface. but any time i change to: ifconfig_ath0="ssid home WPA inet 192.168.1.12 netmask 255.255.255.0" everything else works except the binding of the static ip address to the interface. did i do any wrong? thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:01:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8963106567A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A771F8FC16 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2065C33; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:01:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2Cds7d1GfPlL; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:01:44 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Paul Schmehl , VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:01:47 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: [...] > Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to work, > be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. Ahem, and that 'just works' crowd is generally not found using FreeBSD or in an admin capacity. :-) -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:14:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1E01065677 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20AC78FC21 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 15966 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 01:14:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xOC/yXGkHgeCyXFNttTSgqYlz/2wbGudqrI6Jt7PK1SmzIZbaXkpov+JhswF2d7LpFHzSojdGP5uGdZy6fOnkxdDqIQh5rOlEAitaG2H1j/UnX0JjmKR4/ToDCrOq8lpemYCd0Ir6ckQ/dnj8qALIcg/IUbKtTLbMRtsjUhIR7o=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:14:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:14:27 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <172982.15906.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:14:29 -0000 Hi guys, Last day my mail server became very slow. I haven't found any mysterious er= rors/warnings in /var/log/message and maillog. When I disable spammilter in= sendmail it became fast. What causes spamassassin to slow? Here is my config: snippet from sendmail.mc =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FEATURE(`local_procmail_lmtp') =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 . . . =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FEATURE(dnsbl,`all.rbl.jp')dnl=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 dnl MAILER(local)=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 MAILER(procmail)dnl =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 MAILER(smtp) =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin',`S=3Dlocal:/var/run/= spamass-milter.sock, F=3D,=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 T=3DC:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m')dnl =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`clmilter', `S=3Dlocal:/var/run/cla= mav/clmilter.sock, F=3D, T=3DS:4m;R:4m')dnl =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 define(`confINPUT_MAIL_FILTERS', `clmilter,spamassass= in')dnl =A0 I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes lik= e this: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 :0fw: spamassassin.lock =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 | /usr/local/bin/spamc =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 :0: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\= *\*\*\*\* =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 /dev/null =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 :0: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Probably-Spam I also have RulesDuJour installed and spammassassin --lint does complain ab= out it. spamassassin process: 11894=A0 ??=A0 Ss=A0=A0=A0=A0 0:30.74 /usr/local/bin/spamd -c -d -r -m 20 -= -round-robin /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid (perl5.8.8) 11903=A0 ??=A0 Ss=A0=A0=A0=A0 0:06.55 /usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -f -p = /var/run/spamass-milter.sock When my mail server became slow, my mqueue grows rapidly and there are lots= of spamc processes. Please help, thnx. alyd =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:17:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF4F106564A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA458FC14 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2580707rvf.43 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4im1PNJ+sGWuuy1HQu+/AgG1ie7RYs8CTzv745NpyMQ=; b=tm88SXqA9d2LjwunzWVnqA7G6g6/KTsGTjELvE8w4rG6Q3WCe1RxXpqO8nQMXvbev4 QyKutdmSrnydopqaZ7QG0Kc3aFqYzX7gpivKiSLiykra70+BOxUooMLr7XV4P+JhxKvT oKXQ1FJQyHntgNYQMCDz0j67VZ4k1/uyXHIhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=eqCWVxallJ49InUmUxrWGE1VDdpyG1aeC40bdH2qejEqjZvX0pxakd6pONfa7aworC Svr44TpkhZgsUGNvdtsNn/r9KFjNmw0+EZzh1EIZPIf0l6UmalmX8k6CryafL19zYS47 4vmx0j7yLAulHQNInJERAF/AX+RKOzDCMRJbU= Received: by 10.141.162.5 with SMTP id p5mr270932rvo.113.1216775865376; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.192.8 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:17:45 -0400 From: "Simon Chang" To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:17:49 -0000 > Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The earlier > 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for me without > any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it simply gives me > ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer > Did you make sure that the server has remote administration enabled? I believe that, by default, Win2k3 Servers have RDP disabled. Check with your admins about that. SC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:41:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5227E1065676 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AD98FC0A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7798213; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:41:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7798210; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:40:51 -0400 Message-ID: <48868C23.9010000@radel.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:40:51 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl , VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> In-Reply-To: <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070400020101020408090304" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:41:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070400020101020408090304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sahil Tandon wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > [...] > >> Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to work, >> be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. > > Ahem, and that 'just works' crowd is generally not found using FreeBSD or in > an admin capacity. :-) > YMMV. Some of us run enough machines that we don't relish customizing any more than we absolutely have to, but not so many that we find it worthwhile to build our own packages for internal distribution. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:49:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DA71065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEC08FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so14248635agc.3 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:49:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cgn7xI2gv8ADWwUyK2ub0wLoXH6sLA9pn5w8PeXOY+Y=; b=fbEBiJyLK5G1L48+c0ILqOx0yt/hZwL/NSlNV9nSGY3Qn4UfDQExTTtu0IuIsPbX12 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text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:49:25 -0000 what happens when you type this? # openssl s_client -connect :3389 you should get a response of "CONNECTED" or something to that effect. you might have to change the 3389 if you have rdp listening on another port. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Simon Chang wrote: > > Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The earlier > > 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for me > without > > any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it simply gives > me > > ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer > > > > Did you make sure that the server has remote administration enabled? > I believe that, by default, Win2k3 Servers have RDP disabled. Check > with your admins about that. > > SC > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, dg "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals and shorts. Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that I was wrong. You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:51:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4991065673 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758C78FC0C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl50-127.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.177.127]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m6N1pKhM013319 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:51:26 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6N1pJEm016701; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:51:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6N1pI1j016700; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:51:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: ipfreak@yahoo.com References: <161366.84805.qm@web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:51:17 +0300 In-Reply-To: <161366.84805.qm@web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (gahn's message of "Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <873am1gyga.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m6N1pKhM013319 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.794, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.60, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd wireless question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:51:35 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT), gahn wrote: > hello: > > i installed cisco aironet 802.11a/b/g wirless adapter on 6.3 and have > some issues. basically it works like charm with wpa2/dhcp, but it > doesn't work with wpa2/static ip address. > > here is my working configuration for rc.conf > > ifconfig_ath0="ssid home WPA DCHP" > > everything works: authentication, dhcp process, ip address binding to > the interface. > > but any time i change to: > > ifconfig_ath0="ssid home WPA inet 192.168.1.12 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > everything else works except the binding of the static ip address to > the interface. I haven't tried putting *all* the options in ifconfig_ath0 ever, but my old `wlan-home.sh' shell script for a WEP-only access point included among others: # network interface options export wlans_ath0="wlan0" export ifconfig_wlan0="inet 192.168.1.3/24" export defaultrouter='192.168.1.1' echo '## Stopping network interfaces.' /etc/rc.d/netif stop fxp0 && ifconfig fxp0 delete /etc/rc.d/netif stop ath0 && ifconfig ath0 delete echo '## Bringing up wireless interface.' /etc/rc.d/netif start ath0 # NOTE: Changing options with the wlan interface UP doesn't work for # all options, so bring it temporarily down, set things up and go. ifconfig wlan0 down ifconfig wlan0 ssid '********' channel 5 wepmode on weptxkey 1 \ wepkey '0x**************************' ifconfig wlan0 up ^^^^^ This last bit seems related to what you wrote. ^^^^^ I don't remember why I initially wrote it this way, but I think it was because putting _everything_ in ${ifconfig_wlan0} with a statically defined IP address didn't really work. I don't use a static IP address anymore and I don't have the WEP-only AP installed, having switched to WPA2/DHCP, but maybe that helps a bit with what you want to do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 01:54:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA737106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7E48FC12 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4891637" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 20:44:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (cpe-24-175-90-48.tx.res.rr.com [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3520F23DDF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:44:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:44:25 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: User Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========D047AB8A982C996313C5==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:54:02 -0000 --==========D047AB8A982C996313C5========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On July 22, 2008 9:17:45 PM -0400 Simon Chang =20 wrote: >> Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The >> earlier 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for >> me without any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it >> simply gives me ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer >> > > Did you make sure that the server has remote administration enabled? > I believe that, by default, Win2k3 Servers have RDP disabled. Check > with your admins about that. > Umm..it's a terminal server.... Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========D047AB8A982C996313C5==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 02:03:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB249106567A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60F1F8FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 41920 invoked by uid 89); 23 Jul 2008 02:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by ::ffff:208.70.104.210 with ESMTPA; 23 Jul 2008 02:07:28 -0000 Message-ID: <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:03:36 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:03:21 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On July 22, 2008 9:17:45 PM -0400 Simon Chang > wrote: > >>> Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The >>> earlier 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for >>> me without any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it >>> simply gives me ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer >>> >> >> Did you make sure that the server has remote administration enabled? >> I believe that, by default, Win2k3 Servers have RDP disabled. Check >> with your admins about that. >> > > Umm..it's a terminal server.... ...ummm, in Windows-land, Terminal Services == rdp (port 3389 TCP). To the OP: If NMap is installed on the FBSD box, try: # nmap -sS -P0 -p 3389 ip_of_rdp_box ..if the port appears open, try: # telnet ip_of_rdp_box 3389 ...and see what you get. If you see nothing, refer to the logs of the 2k3 server (Event Viewer I believe it is called). Failing that, see if there is a 'feature' to drop back to non-SSL mode for RDP for the time being, to at least get the FBSD boxen to 'see' the service. Troubleshooting can commence from there. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 02:09:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1AB106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5EA8FC12 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 8182 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2008 21:09:29 -0500 Received: from 203-166-248-146.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO ayiin) (203.166.248.146) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Jul 2008 21:09:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:09:25 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080723120925.4ad1b20c@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:09:29 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:01:44 -0400 Sahil Tandon wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > [...] > > > Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to work, > > be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. > > Ahem, and that 'just works' crowd is generally not found using FreeBSD or in > an admin capacity. :-) of course, but it doesn't mean that an experienced admin wouldn't prefer an easy (ports is easy), configurable (it is too), and reliable (it is) option to rolling everything on his/her own.... _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Software QA is like cleaning my cat's litter box: Sift out the big chunks. Stir in the rest. Hope it doesn't stink. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 02:11:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7C51065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C148FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4168567" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 20:43:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (cpe-24-175-90-48.tx.res.rr.com [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2A8623DDF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:43:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:43:13 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========3F91AB55FC498DE3A90B==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:11:55 -0000 --==========3F91AB55FC498DE3A90B========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On July 22, 2008 9:01:44 PM -0400 Sahil Tandon wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > [...] > >> Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to >> work, be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. > > Ahem, and that 'just works' crowd is generally not found using FreeBSD > or in an admin capacity. :-) Perhaps you've misunderstood my point? Compiling from source rather than ports gains you nothing, in most cases,=20 and can cost you a great deal of extra time if you run into problems.=20 Time is something most admins I know have precious little of already.=20 There are certainly special cases where compiling from source is=20 preferable, especially if you have a highly customized installation, but=20 those are the exceptions rather than the rule. My point was, when you=20 install from ports, you *are* compiling from source. You just don't have=20 to deal with any of the quirks that arise when you're working from the=20 tarball. The port maintainers have already dealt with those issues for=20 you. If you prefer compiling from the tarball then by all means have at it. As an admin myself, I build world and kernel by hand, but I build all my=20 apps from ports. (I've used freebsd-update for kernel and world updates,=20 but I normally compile both.) Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========3F91AB55FC498DE3A90B==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 02:26:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5D81065675 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7468FC0A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4893149" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 21:26:28 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (cpe-24-175-90-48.tx.res.rr.com [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5691223DDF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:26:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:26:27 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: User Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========EF14AB75AD9EE00748FE==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:26:29 -0000 --==========EF14AB75AD9EE00748FE========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On July 22, 2008 10:03:36 PM -0400 Steve Bertrand =20 wrote: >> >> Umm..it's a terminal server.... > > ...ummm, in Windows-land, Terminal Services =3D=3D rdp (port 3389 TCP). > Umm..no. In Windows-land, Terminal Services =3D=3D rdp (port 3389 TCP) = but a=20 terminal *server* is used specifically to allow mutliple (as in more than=20 the default limit of two) concurrent sessions and requires the purchase of = additional licenses. Now, *maybe* the OP really meant terminal *services* = but he wrote "secured Windows 2003 terminal *server*", and that is a=20 different animal altogether. > To the OP: > > If NMap is installed on the FBSD box, try: > ># nmap -sS -P0 -p 3389 ip_of_rdp_box > > ..if the port appears open, try: > ># telnet ip_of_rdp_box 3389 > > ...and see what you get. > > If you see nothing, refer to the logs of the 2k3 server (Event Viewer I > believe it is called). > > Failing that, see if there is a 'feature' to drop back to non-SSL mode > for RDP for the time being, to at least get the FBSD boxen to 'see' the > service. Troubleshooting can commence from there. > If you like sending your credentials across the internet in clear text, be = my guest. I wouldn't suggest to the OP that he ask his enterprise to=20 expose themselves to that level of risk. Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========EF14AB75AD9EE00748FE==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 02:55:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E52E106566B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail5out.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBB28FC1B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail5out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 184462218A7A; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:39:24 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <488699DB0000BF61DC0CD3@BarNet> Received: from mail5auth.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail5auth.barnet.com.au", Issuer "*.barnet.com.au" (verified OK)) by mail5.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC63C21B45D8; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:39:23 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (ppp121-44-5-245.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net [121.44.5.245]) by mail5auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E462218A3A; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:39:23 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D83EC856; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:38:44 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:38:44 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080723023844.GA27826@k7.mavetju> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, lyd mc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: lyd mc Subject: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:55:39 -0000 > iLast day my mail server became very slow. I haven't found any > mysterious errors/warnings in /var/log/message and maillog. When I > disable spammilter in sendmail it became fast. Normally this happens to me when I a DNS based RBL suddenly goes out of action. I know it won't solve your problem, but have a look on the wire if all DNS queries are answered in time. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:00:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8BB106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1B78FC13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C81F5C34; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:00:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id GQz4WLEIfKvV; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:00:44 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20080723030043.GC17377@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:00:48 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: [...] > Compiling from source rather than ports gains you nothing, in most cases, > and can cost you a great deal of extra time if you run into problems. Time > is something most admins I know have precious little of already. Relax. Google "joke" and "jest". But let's be clear. You *are* compiling from source when you *build* from ports. You just have some guidance via the ports infrastructure. :) YMMV. TMTOWDI. There are exceptions. Et cetera. No need to justify your methods to the list; just do what works for you. [...] -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:12:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F081065677 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A878FC1F for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4894745" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 22:12:44 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (unknown [10.40.1.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B31823DDF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:12:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:12:38 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: User Questions Message-ID: <518F3B961F96608C4372A995@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========974BB393A7C52C6FF6B8==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:12:45 -0000 --==========974BB393A7C52C6FF6B8========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On July 22, 2008 9:26:27 PM -0500 Paul Schmehl=20 wrote: > --On July 22, 2008 10:03:36 PM -0400 Steve Bertrand > wrote: >>> >>> Umm..it's a terminal server.... >> >> ...ummm, in Windows-land, Terminal Services =3D=3D rdp (port 3389 TCP). >> > > Umm..no. In Windows-land, Terminal Services =3D=3D rdp (port 3389 TCP) = but > a terminal *server* is used specifically to allow mutliple (as in more > than the default limit of two) concurrent sessions and requires the > purchase of additional licenses. Now, *maybe* the OP really meant > terminal *services* but he wrote "secured Windows 2003 terminal > *server*", and that is a different animal altogether. > To the OP - here's what I get when testing from a FreeBSD box to one of=20 our servers: pauls@utd65257# telnet hostname.utdallas.edu 3389 Trying 10.110.21.80... Connected to hostname.utdallas.edu. Escape character is '^]'. test ^C login test Connection closed by foreign host. So, if a connection closed message is what you get, it appears to be a=20 timeout after a failure to authenticate. The access denied message you=20 cited appears to be a firewall or acl issue that prevents the server from=20 accepting connections from your FreeBSD box. BTW, I use rdesktop routinely to rdp to various Windows 2003 servers, but=20 I haven't tested it against a terminal server. I'll try that and let you=20 know what I find. Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========974BB393A7C52C6FF6B8==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:14:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ED21065680 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 409CD8FC1D for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 44155 invoked by uid 89); 23 Jul 2008 03:18:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by ::ffff:208.70.104.210 with ESMTPA; 23 Jul 2008 03:18:20 -0000 Message-ID: <4886A214.3080102@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:14:28 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:14:13 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > > Umm..no. In Windows-land, Terminal Services == rdp (port 3389 TCP) but > a terminal *server* is used specifically to allow mutliple (as in more > than the default limit of two) concurrent sessions and requires the > purchase of additional licenses. Now, *maybe* the OP really meant > terminal *services* but he wrote "secured Windows 2003 terminal > *server*", and that is a different animal altogether. Ok, fair enough. I was hasty in reading the OP's original post. >> Failing that, see if there is a 'feature' to drop back to non-SSL mode >> for RDP for the time being, to at least get the FBSD boxen to 'see' the >> service. Troubleshooting can commence from there. >> > If you like sending your credentials across the internet in clear text, > be my guest. I wouldn't suggest to the OP that he ask his enterprise to > expose themselves to that level of risk. I'll rephrase... if there is the possibility to adding a temporary, non-privileged user to the enterprise network that you are currently testing that only has specific rights to authenticate via Terminal Server and no rights otherwise whatsoever, then I would try that. Commencing the test, I would immediately remove the user account. Otherwise, I would configure a separate Windows 2k3 box, exactly the same as the one that was upgraded, and test the scenario in a closed, less-sensitive environment. The logs should provide guidance to the cause of the problem. I'm more familiar with FreeBSD, so I would start there. However, perhaps the Windows logging system has something to offer. I would still try nmap and telnet, and the other tests. Especially given the fact that OP never specified that he would be sending credentials over a public network at all. Besides... in the original post, it was clarified that the old server did NOT have any encryption whatsoever. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:21:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0295106564A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54E318FC14 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 44484 invoked by uid 89); 23 Jul 2008 03:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.114?) (steve@ibctech.ca@::ffff:208.70.104.100) by ::ffff:208.70.104.210 with ESMTPA; 23 Jul 2008 03:25:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4886A3CC.4020905@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:21:48 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> <518F3B961F96608C4372A995@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: <518F3B961F96608C4372A995@Macintosh.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:21:36 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > To the OP - here's what I get when testing from a FreeBSD box to one of > our servers: > > pauls@utd65257# telnet hostname.utdallas.edu 3389 > Connection closed by foreign host. Does your server have SSL enabled? The OP stated that prior to upgrade, the box did NOT have SSL enabled. > The access denied message you > cited appears to be a firewall or acl issue that prevents the server > from accepting connections from your FreeBSD box. Perhaps from a Service Pack whereas Microsoft could have enabled it's inbound 'firewall', thinking it was appropriate. # nmap -sS -P0 -p 3389 ip_of_rdp_server Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:31:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA241065670 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D1F78FC19 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 90359 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 03:31:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=P601CvX/11RN8Skkp4ft3F0O9ah/UR0NYsUVArPzwOpP8kz7oZoou7Lu4WSTD7FUUrMVSXFZf565hStgZ6JybpzPq0l4/nyjfffn2WXgtGG1pzB5M3q/YMy9sascOvd5Wf6ZLNg4GllXk6AcBQSfhZIpVR/9/TMcwzVI5Qe6cs8=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:30:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:30:59 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: Edwin Groothuis , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20080723023844.GA27826@k7.mavetju> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <226748.90014.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:31:01 -0000 Thanks edwin. I better watch those dns rbl feature.. Regards, alyd --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Edwin Groothuis wrote: From: Edwin Groothuis Subject: Spamassassin very slow To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: "lyd mc" Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:38 AM > iLast day my mail server became very slow. I haven't found any > mysterious errors/warnings in /var/log/message and maillog. When I > disable spammilter in sendmail it became fast. Normally this happens to me when I a DNS based RBL suddenly goes out of action. I know it won't solve your problem, but have a look on the wire if all DNS queries are answered in time. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:39:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B058106564A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE4198FC0C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62280 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 03:39:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Te1DPoh74GtUQu/vaHV4261t30dhgtAmndkTO0GHlSl+tDZwCXlOUSiXqTKlGJiMkZBMQy2fwJ3TY+qXcyY6Uq7WVn2XHrTm9pG26r4REfndtfBgKA67zlCy1d4Na4HR634xq2200CL5wokqRfVARsnoyNMqhUSlISdLD6i4j7c=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:39:14 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:39:14 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: James Tanis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <66d1a8b0058a09bc1efee86388c5dd8a@portal.mdchs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <951109.62209.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:39:16 -0000 Thanks james. I thought before that spamc on .procmailrc handle checking ma= il for outgoing (mail from local user) and milter in sendmail handle incomi= ng mail checking. Best=A0 regards, alyd=20 --- On Wed, 7/23/08, James Tanis wrote: From: James Tanis Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow To: alydiomc@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:08 AM "lyd mc" wrote: > > What causes spamassassin to slow? > > Here is my config: > > snippet from sendmail.mc > .. .. > > I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes like > this: So if I'm understanding you correctly.. your calling spamc from a sendmail milter *and* .procmailrc. That's pretty redundant and would definately slow you down. Choose one based on your needs. > > I also have RulesDuJour installed and spammassassin --lint does complain about > it. > Extra rules can slow you down regardless of syntax, but most computers created this decade can handle RulesDuJour fine. Personally I think your main problem is that your effectively spam checking every message twice. Th= e spamassassin queues most likely get filled followed by sendmail having to wait and queue up the slack. -- James Tanis Technical Coordinator Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School e: jtanis@mdchs.org=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:39:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6781065679 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtanis@mdchs.org) Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2E28FC16 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtanis@mdchs.org) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080723031049.QPOW20777.mta11.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net>; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:10:49 -0400 Received: from portal.mdchs.org ([96.32.128.193]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080723031048.PMLP7436.aarprv04.charter.net@portal.mdchs.org>; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:10:48 -0400 Received: from phpmailer ([75.137.180.188]) by portal.mdchs.org with HTTP (PHPMailer); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:08:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:08:20 -0400 To: alydiomc@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: James Tanis Message-ID: <66d1a8b0058a09bc1efee86388c5dd8a@portal.mdchs.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.71] X-Mailer: FeLaMiMail In-Reply-To: <172982.15906.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Organization: Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:39:58 -0000 "lyd mc" wrote: > > What causes spamassassin to slow? > > Here is my config: > > snippet from sendmail.mc > .. .. > > I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes like > this: So if I'm understanding you correctly.. your calling spamc from a sendmail milter *and* .procmailrc. That's pretty redundant and would definately = slow you down. Choose one based on your needs. > > I also have RulesDuJour installed and spammassassin --lint does complain about > it. > Extra rules can slow you down regardless of syntax, but most computers created this decade can handle RulesDuJour fine. Personally I think your main problem is that your effectively spam checking every message twice. = The spamassassin queues most likely get filled followed by sendmail having to wait and queue up the slack. -- James Tanis Technical Coordinator Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School e: jtanis@mdchs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:53:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278F41065677 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2243C8FC12 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from smgellar.p6m7g8.net (70.88.236.22) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.278.0; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:53:35 -0700 Message-ID: <4886AB3F.4070107@p6m7g8.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:35 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: RideCharge Inc User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Tanis References: <66d1a8b0058a09bc1efee86388c5dd8a@portal.mdchs.org> In-Reply-To: <66d1a8b0058a09bc1efee86388c5dd8a@portal.mdchs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: alydiomc@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:53:36 -0000 James Tanis wrote: > "lyd mc" wrote: >> What causes spamassassin to slow? >> >> Here is my config: >> >> snippet from sendmail.mc >> .. .. >> >> I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes > like >> this: The following setup by the front line mx's (2 of them) for apache.org can handle ~1million messages/day for a total of 2million without breaking a sweat. No .procailrc involved. /etc/rc.conf: postfix_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" rbldnsd_enable="YES" rbldnsd_flags="MASKED OUT" svscan_enable="YES" clamav_clamd_enable="YES" clamav_freshclam_enable="YES" spamd_enable="YES" spamd_pidfile="/var/run/spamd/spamd.pid" spamd_flags="--min-children=4 --max-children=40 --min-spare=2 --max-spare=8 --max-conn-per-child=100 -c -d --socketpath=/var/run/spamd/socket --socketmode=0777 -r ${spamd_pidfile}" Thats FreeBSD 6.x (soon to be 7.x when I update it) httpd 2.2.9+worker mpm with qpsmtp using mod_perl in my consulting buss, for sendmail I use the following sendmail.mc snippet: INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`clmilter',`S=local:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=, T=S:4m;R:4m') INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin', `S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock, F=, T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m') define(`confMILTER_MACROS_ENVRCPT',`r, v, Z') define(`confMILTER_MACROS_CONNECT',`b, j, _, {daemon_name}, {if_name}, {if_addr}') That said, all individual users do you ~/.procmailrc, with the following rule: :0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes spam -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 03:59:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4CA106567E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451B08FC1D for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4896227" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 22:59:56 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (unknown [10.40.1.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FCAD23DDF for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:59:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:59:55 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: User Questions Message-ID: <557AE3211DA28377A2794AA5@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: <4886A3CC.4020905@ibctech.ca> References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <8efc42630807221817x873729dg9f4dc18c56865f48@mail.gmail.com> <48869178.60808@ibctech.ca> <518F3B961F96608C4372A995@Macintosh.local> <4886A3CC.4020905@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========CBA91634ACA61897E946==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:59:58 -0000 --==========CBA91634ACA61897E946========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On July 22, 2008 11:21:48 PM -0400 Steve Bertrand =20 wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> To the OP - here's what I get when testing from a FreeBSD box to one of >> our servers: >> >> pauls@utd65257# telnet hostname.utdallas.edu 3389 > >> Connection closed by foreign host. > > Does your server have SSL enabled? The OP stated that prior to upgrade, > the box did NOT have SSL enabled. > RDP has three types of encryption capability: RDP (native), Negotiate and=20 SSL. The default is RDP, which uses RSA keys. To setup SSL you also have = to setup TLS and exchange certs. The OP *may* have that setup. I don't=20 recall. Ours use the native RDP encryption layer with RSA keys and are=20 set to "Client compatible", which means they will use the highest key=20 strength possible - either 56 bits or 128 bits. I think most, if not all, = of our clients use 128 bits, but I haven't verified that. Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========CBA91634ACA61897E946==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 04:20:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43304106567C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FD98FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2656576rvf.43 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=OKdXp2EepYW10eJ8Vo04cOvCrNlakraV/4O10tSAPuA=; b=qqSrgmdwxf97f5VanDLOmRlhXDbGGbJu/CzVLUdUbzWyAvBq7rdYsNmXdGnQjyEHYq FGyaD2d3tCAR8OOPXfYs91Dl83klXe2o+RrUyz4MCqIZPx5O0QGv+q0vNyMeTKB1cCx7 /fgABEeRG/biKn/fVEK8587v2uIEpugejBjek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=bdRaM3lMMRyiQnettEALU8+UOtqni/442KjrgrllYfkNbyxdwt+ufteCzk4w//0tu8 eFa8RxkTuXVmBPF6I0bdmo4FlOuQ+pLsAOPdc7NfqtVWjajIjCHKvjdrrRgB+44Y4Vpr EQqtE+oeGIvELoUZVKT/apOpQHFwRFkQDJCiQ= Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr350296rve.83.1216786855470; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sniper ( [71.221.186.159]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm10700772rvb.3.2008.07.22.21.20.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:20:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Falanga To: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:20:09 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <340a29540807220721r10e36a99v1a2fa74e2bb2dfa0@mail.gmail.com> <44bq0qc7b1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44bq0qc7b1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807222220.10176.af300wsm@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Has anyone used libusb for accessing usb devices here? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:20:56 -0000 On Tuesday 22 July 2008 08:38:58 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Andrew Falanga" writes: > > I'd like to know if anyone here on the list has ever used libusb > > (http://libusb.sourceforge.net) for accessing usb devices. I > > successfully compiled and installed it on my FreeBSD 7 laptop but when > > I run a test program no USB HUBs are found. The same test on a Fedora > > box works fine. I was wondering what the magic is for FreeBSD since > > the web site claims the package works on FreeBSD. > > libusb is in ports, and a number of other ports use it. > (See "make search key=libusb".) > That should provide a variety of working examples. Ok, I've installed from the ports collection this time (at home now on my 6.2p11 box) and I'm seeing busses in my computer. However, when I plug in my USB thumb drive, a Sandisk Cruizer Micro that the kernel does see as da0 (verified in /var/log/messages), I don't get any devices shown. Below is the code to the program I'm using. It's a hack of the basic example on the libusb.sourceforge.net website docs. #include #include int main(void) { usb_init(); struct usb_bus *busses; usb_init(); usb_find_busses(); usb_find_devices(); busses = usb_get_busses(); if(busses) std::cout << "we found some busses" << std::endl; else std::cout << "no busses were found" << std::endl; struct usb_bus *bus; int c, i, a, bussCount(0); /* ... */ for (bus = busses; bus; bus = bus->next) { std::cout << "enumerating buss: " << ++bussCount << std::endl; struct usb_device *dev; // loop through each device and display its vid pid for (dev = bus->devices; dev; dev = dev->next) { struct usb_device_descriptor* pUsbDev = &dev->descriptor; if(pUsbDev->bDeviceClass == 0x09) std::cout << "Device is a HUB\n"; if(pUsbDev->bDeviceClass == 0x07) std::cout << "Device is a printer:\n"; if(pUsbDev->bDeviceClass == 0x08) std::cout << "Device is a mass storage device:\n"; std::cout << "Device Class: " << (int)pUsbDev->bDeviceClass << std::endl; std::cout << "VID: " << std::dec << pUsbDev->idVendor << " " << std::hex << pUsbDev->idVendor << std::endl; std::cout << "PID: " << std::dec << pUsbDev->idProduct << " " << std::hex << pUsbDev->idProduct << std::endl; if(dev->num_children > 0) { struct usb_device* pChild = *(dev->children); while(pChild) { std::cout << "Childs device class: " << std::dec << pChild->descriptor.bDeviceClass << " " << std::hex << pChild->descriptor.bDeviceClass << std::endl; pChild = pChild->next; } } } } return 0; } Any ideas why I'm not seeing any devices? Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 05:28:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4477E1065688 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E333E8FC23 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="14093521" Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2008 05:56:27 +0100 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 71AAB22D7C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:02:07 +0100 (BST) To: Paul Schmehl References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Optional Memorial: Saint Bridget of Sweden, religious, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:02:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> (Paul Schmehl's message of "Tue\, 22 Jul 2008 16\:22\:05 -0500") Message-ID: <86d4l5fb1s.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:28:22 -0000 Paul Schmehl writes: > This seems to be a common misperception about ports. Ports aren't > something magical. They do exactly what you would do from the > commandline (i.e. ./configure, make, make install), except they come > with several bonuses. > > 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to make > it compile and install properly on FreeBSD. 2) The port maintainer > has already supplied patches that allow the software to build > correctly on FreeBSD. 3) All the dependencies are already taken care > of. 4) Upgrading is quite simple and straightforward. 5) The > software is now architechture-independent (in most cases), meaning you > can move from Intel to AMD (for example) without having to worry that > the software will no longer build and you'll have to start from > scratch again. Could I add 6. Removing software from the system quickly and cleanly is also a doddle!? Building/installing "by hand" often leaves you hunting down files ....... atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 05:51:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6241106564A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B68F8FC25 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m6N5p1iQ090565; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:51:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Razmig K" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:51:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <488226D8.307@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Extracting tracks as WAV from a worn-out CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:51:03 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Razmig K > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:40 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Extracting tracks as WAV from a worn-out CD >=20 >=20 > Kevin Kinsey a =C3=A9crit : > > Not trying to be overly arrogant, but aren't you asking > > something similar to "why doesn't my broken car run"? > No, I'm aware of the implications of having a "broken car". The = question=20 > asked for explanations, if any, on why successful extraction ----------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > was=20 > possible via the SCSI interface while it wasn't via the ATAPI = interface. > That statement implies that the data extracted isn't damaged. Damage in a wave file is nothing - it's a click or pop in the song. Damage in a data file generally scotches the entire file. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 06:09:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C91065681 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: from web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 592C08FC18 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wearabnet@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 51565 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 06:09:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=JS53FbfPvPf4lCKfyhxG7JlRcRlACfDBdf9ViO5Kw/IYb5XLY+qsUei78d2XGpDqb9gvtQJXuUFKCY7zRfT3kt930uwmOJtl+ZPUnXkbdG3egxEq7tlvETZlzznAVZXB8mfpUNFdprTfELUUubFjbYlPeT35PCGSzqp1VmSGbxU=; Received: from [212.77.203.38] by web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:09:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1042.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri To: VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <637832.51428.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:09:58 -0000 ----- Original Message ---- > From: VeeJay > To: FreeBSD-Questions ; VeeJay > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:05:26 PM > Subject: FreeBSD for webserver? > > Hi there > > I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per > month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have > proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and > Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... > *Hardware:* > Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core > 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. > > *Tools:* > 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release > 2. Apache 2.2.9 > 3. MySQL 5.1.26 I would go with MySQL 5.0.x since 5.1.x has speed issues. > Thanks! > > BR / vj Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 06:18:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE865106567B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3A2F8FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88677 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 06:18:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=S8UB/sHOhqQ4kCFo7Qz/t5fVfRQ6W6ExJXoWDnHH7vMtoW+PoM+ni8R+qru4z8pkrU+QkM2DJXp+3h5Won2vflxIy9EFHbKE4Qr+R8+8ccF++ZlktDi3r26dM9Gzr3mCmDokQlNemI4qIYZ7DF3kqXuWPXcEl0Vul86Rd17f6Nk=; Received: from [203.131.169.182] by web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:18:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: "Philip M. Gollucci" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4886AB3F.4070107@p6m7g8.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <835067.88569.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:18:52 -0000 thnx Philip, your config will help in my current setup. --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: From: Philip M. Gollucci Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow To: "James Tanis" Cc: alydiomc@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:53 AM James Tanis wrote: > "lyd mc" wrote: >> What causes spamassassin to slow? >> >> Here is my config: >> >> snippet from sendmail.mc >> .. .. >> >> I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes > like >> this: The following setup by the front line mx's (2 of them) for apache.org can handle ~1million messages/day for a total of 2million without breaking a sweat. No .procailrc involved. /etc/rc.conf: postfix_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" rbldnsd_enable="YES" rbldnsd_flags="MASKED OUT" svscan_enable="YES" clamav_clamd_enable="YES" clamav_freshclam_enable="YES" spamd_enable="YES" spamd_pidfile="/var/run/spamd/spamd.pid" spamd_flags="--min-children=4 --max-children=40 --min-spare=2 --max-spare=8 --max-conn-per-child=100 -c -d --socketpath=/var/run/spamd/socket --socketmode=0777 -r ${spamd_pidfile}" Thats FreeBSD 6.x (soon to be 7.x when I update it) httpd 2.2.9+worker mpm with qpsmtp using mod_perl in my consulting buss, for sendmail I use the following sendmail.mc snippet: INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`clmilter',`S=local:/var/run/clamav/clmilter.sock, F=, T=S:4m;R:4m') INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin', `S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock, F=, T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m') define(`confMILTER_MACROS_ENVRCPT',`r, v, Z') define(`confMILTER_MACROS_CONNECT',`b, j, _, {daemon_name}, {if_name}, {if_addr}') That said, all individual users do you ~/.procmailrc, with the following rule: :0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes spam -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 06:31:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E8B106567B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51ADA8FC25 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 96615 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2008 06:31:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XoOWjUbs+XIo62AmSbtG8dPYgszmaUtapgVdP8fIOJF0IqR2UcYC05wGKPS+EVRuwdqK9qubVgcUm/c32Tm7lb5638g88JscgTFj3O5ROXwPXn2kKlyKTAeIVh2x/rfNer0gOUeurS8vzgjzJ9Om3zRtBz4wM+F3rd74koIG9zY=; Received: from [203.131.169.182] by web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:31:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:31:06 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: James Tanis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <575638.96524.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:31:07 -0000 Hi James, I remove spamc on .procmailrc and I can see lots of improvements! Thanx, alyd --- On Wed, 7/23/08, James Tanis wrote: From: James Tanis Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow To: alydiomc@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:07 AM "lyd mc" wrote: > > What causes spamassassin to slow? > > Here is my config: > > snippet from sendmail.mc > .. .. > > I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes like > this: So if I'm understanding you correctly.. your calling spamc from a sendmail milter *and* .procmailrc. That's pretty redundant and would definately slow you down. Choose one based on your needs. > > I also have RulesDuJour installed and spammassassin --lint does complain about > it. > Extra rules can slow you down regardless of syntax, but most computers created this decade can handle RulesDuJour fine. Personally I think your main problem is that your effectively spam checking every message twice. The spamassassin queues most likely get filled followed by sendmail having to wait and queue up the slack. -- James Tanis Technical Coordinator Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School e: jtanis@mdchs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 06:46:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF51065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD4A8FC0A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m6N6k9hB090934; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Paul Schmehl" , "VeeJay" , "FreeBSD-Questions" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:47:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:46:11 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:22 PM > To: VeeJay; FreeBSD-Questions > Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? > > > --On Tuesday, July 22, 2008 22:05:26 +0200 VeeJay > wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 > mil hits per > > month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have > > proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and > > Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... > > *Hardware:* > > Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 > Quad-Core > > 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. > > > > *Tools:* > > 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release > > 2. Apache 2.2.9 > > 3. MySQL 5.1.26 > > 4. PHP 5.2.6 > > > > My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": > > > > Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? > > > > *OR* > > Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example > giving command > > line arguments and commands like > > > > This seems to be a common misperception about ports. Ports > aren't something > magical. They do exactly what you would do from the commandline (i.e. > ./configure, make, make install), except they come with several bonuses. > > 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to > make it compile > and install properly on FreeBSD. 2) The port maintainer has > already supplied > patches that allow the software to build correctly on FreeBSD. > 3) All the > dependencies are already taken care of. 4) Upgrading is quite simple and > straightforward. 5) The software is now > architechture-independent (in most > cases), meaning you can move from Intel to AMD (for example) > without having to > worry that the software will no longer build and you'll have to > start from > scratch again. > > For example, I decided today that I wanted to try out some software named > "arguseye". So I downloaded and untarred the program. I looked at the > dependencies. It requires a number of perl modules, some of > which are not in > ports. So, I just created three new perl ports to satisfy those > dependencies > and submitted them this afternoon. > > Once those are accepted into the tree, I'll create the arguseye > port and submit > it as well. Then, when someone else wants to install arguseye, > all they will > have to do is type "make install clean" in the port directory and > everything > that they need will be installed for them. > > Unless you're a glutton for punishment, why would you do all that > yourself? Because maybe you don't care for the porter's choice of defaults. Many programs come with hard-coded defaults that are modified in a config file. For example cistron-radius. Another example is the dspam port. The porter for that insisted on using a default of apache vhost. However the default apache port does not activate this. I don't give a rat's ass that vhost is supposedly more secure. Another one that always pisses me off is the porter's choice in building uw-imap to turn off plaintext passwords. And the default for pine is also to turn off plaintext support. Another problem is that not all porters are good about maintaining their ports. For example icradius. Someone spent a lot of time creating the port for that. Then just let it die. Another is the open source ingres database. Julian ported that one then lost interest, it died sometime around FBSD 4.X Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both disappeared. Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar issue. The fundamental achillies heel of the ports system is it makes the assumption that every package in the ports system is popular and will be supported for the indefinite future by the original package developer. The ports system counts on this insofar that it assumes that if the original porter loses interest and stops tracking the master site, that someone else will step in and assume responsibility for maintaining the port. The reality is that in every release of FreeBSD, some ports go wanting for sponsors, and nobody steps forward and so when the port stops building, the FreeBSD maintainers simply cut it out of the ports tree, plus anything dependent on it. This assumption is fine for people running vanilla apache or whatever systems, which is most people. But, if your doing anything that isn't plain-jane middle of the road, you better assume that if your using a series of ports, to make detailed notes, and save the ports, and save the patches, and save the distfiles. You may need to see how they did it in an older FreeBSD system when a new version of FreeBSD comes out that is missing one or more of the ports you depend on. Ultimately, ports isn't any different than most other things. When it's properly executed it's great. But proper execution of the entire thing depends on every porter who has an active port in the system doing the right thing, and there's so many of them that statistically, some of them are going to be flakes. Ultimately, if your going to be a server admin, you need to know how to build your applications without ports. It's no different than, for example, I know how to pour and form concrete, I know how to plumb pipes. But if I needed concrete poured, or pipes plumbed, I would call a contractor and a plumber, and because I know how to do these things I would be able to keep an eye on what the people I hired were doing and know if they were doing what they were supposed to be doing, or if they were incompetents. The folks that depend utterly on ports and have no notion of how to build it manually, are like the people who don't know how to pour concrete or plumb pipes, and who hire a mason and a plumber anyway. They think they are having their concrete and pipes done, but in reality they have no clue if the work is really being done properly or not. And, years later that concrete may be cracked and the pipes leaking, and they have no clue if it was due to crap work or something else. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 08:05:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07AC106567A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA9D8FC17 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so864387ywe.13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=99D2v/lw66/1KefHHhgImFbaC9tJcG2XkIfqp62h4Oc=; b=Q3og9fOCXPk1n5qdODOMbc01bGIaw4KmXcThAJaeJ+ygBXY7j73Bn9HESGk/YtX+on f0xtFlrg3p4+QqN/l+q7swPpseRnbMWd1FScZE5aeZKVqW4hsGHAky09bsQjsEuffGDA aDQd/JebCCu2sNcTWZ/ixjY3aSBt9vkmla8SE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=Bn6YPB3FczuJ0Awe+kZZC39JuhJGBPAiv3/qYH0JE8hCCkAXnjoF5R9ri+Z7mLydxd MCsdQF0e72IGvDRXPAkI4uyD8aFejp1Uf0mOYWRkZtPvOnJ8+rawcLZriTsbU+s5Mafr kH57cU4a+ykaJ2MgPCY1OwApSrnePJbdU20U4= Received: by 10.151.112.12 with SMTP id p12mr6805642ybm.195.1216800327960; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 200-117-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.117.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1442803ywd.8.2008.07.23.01.05.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:01:58 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807230501.58956.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:05:29 -0000 On Wednesday 23 July 2008 03:47:04 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > This seems to be a common misperception about ports. Ports > > aren't something > > magical. They do exactly what you would do from the commandline (i.e. > > ./configure, make, make install), except they come with several bonuses. > > > > 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to > > make it compile > > and install properly on FreeBSD. 2) The port maintainer has > > already supplied > > patches that allow the software to build correctly on FreeBSD. > > 3) All the > > dependencies are already taken care of. 4) Upgrading is quite simple and > > straightforward. 5) The software is now > > architechture-independent (in most > > cases), meaning you can move from Intel to AMD (for example) > > without having to > > worry that the software will no longer build and you'll have to > > start from > > scratch again. > > > > For example, I decided today that I wanted to try out some software named > > "arguseye". So I downloaded and untarred the program. I looked at the > > dependencies. It requires a number of perl modules, some of > > which are not in > > ports. So, I just created three new perl ports to satisfy those > > dependencies > > and submitted them this afternoon. > > > > Once those are accepted into the tree, I'll create the arguseye > > port and submit > > it as well. Then, when someone else wants to install arguseye, > > all they will > > have to do is type "make install clean" in the port directory and > > everything > > that they need will be installed for them. > > > > Unless you're a glutton for punishment, why would you do all that > > yourself? > > Because maybe you don't care for the porter's choice of defaults. > > Many programs come with hard-coded defaults that are modified > in a config file. For example cistron-radius. Another example > is the dspam port. The porter for that insisted on using a > default of apache vhost. However the default apache port does > not activate this. I don't give a rat's ass that vhost is > supposedly more secure. Another one that always pisses me off > is the porter's choice in building uw-imap to turn off plaintext > passwords. And the default for pine is also to turn off > plaintext support. > > Another problem is that not all porters are good about maintaining > their ports. For example icradius. Someone spent a lot of time > creating the port for that. Then just let it die. Another is > the open source ingres database. Julian ported that one then > lost interest, it died sometime around FBSD 4.X > > Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the > original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the > author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost > interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for > the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project > and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from > the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both disappeared. > Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar issue. > > The fundamental achillies heel of the ports system is it makes > the assumption that every package in the ports system is popular > and will be supported for the indefinite future by the original > package developer. The ports system counts on this insofar that > it assumes that if the original porter loses interest and stops > tracking the master site, that someone else will step in and > assume responsibility for maintaining the port. > > The reality is that in every release of FreeBSD, some ports go > wanting for sponsors, and nobody steps forward and so when the > port stops building, the FreeBSD maintainers simply cut it out > of the ports tree, plus anything dependent on it. > > This assumption is fine for people running vanilla apache or > whatever systems, which is most people. But, if your doing > anything that isn't plain-jane middle of the road, you better > assume that if your using a series of ports, to make detailed > notes, and save the ports, and save the patches, and save > the distfiles. You may need to see how they did it in an > older FreeBSD system when a new version of FreeBSD comes out > that is missing one or more of the ports you depend on. > > Ultimately, ports isn't any different than most other things. > When it's properly executed it's great. But proper execution > of the entire thing depends on every porter who has an active > port in the system doing the right thing, and there's so many of > them that statistically, some of them are going to be flakes. > > Ultimately, if your going to be a server admin, you need to > know how to build your applications without ports. > > It's no different than, for example, I know how to pour and > form concrete, I know how to plumb pipes. But if I needed > concrete poured, or pipes plumbed, I would call a contractor > and a plumber, and because I know how to do these things I > would be able to keep an eye on what the people I hired > were doing and know if they were doing what they were supposed > to be doing, or if they were incompetents. > > The folks that depend utterly on ports and have no notion of > how to build it manually, are like the people who don't know > how to pour concrete or plumb pipes, and who hire a mason and > a plumber anyway. They think they are having their concrete > and pipes done, but in reality they have no clue if the > work is really being done properly or not. And, years later > that concrete may be cracked and the pipes leaking, and > they have no clue if it was due to crap work or something else. > > Ted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Ted, with all due respect, you do have pointed out some valid points .. yet, there is a mailig list for that matter... http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports you seem to be pretty knowledgable about certain aspects that others don't even came across simply because we don't run into those problems because we don't need or use a given piece of software ... It's my experience ( and of course, YMMV ...) that por maintainers do answer e-mails and fix stuff when asked to do so .. It happened to me at least :) Yet, some (maybe even most) of your observations still stand true ... Whoever .. as it has been criteriously pointed out by Paul Schmehl: "There are certainly special cases where compiling from source is preferable, especially if you have a highly customized installation, but those are the exceptions rather than the rule." And I do agree with that statement ... to put it simple: exceptions can never be taken as a basis for general rule ... Still, should you be kind enough .. I'd like to invite you to post those issues on freebsd-ports for all of us to know about them and then be in a position to discuss those issues in due time .. because evetually ... those will bite some of us sooner or later ... You would be doing all of us a great favor by posting your views on said problems so we all know what we might be up against in case we need to use those ports. Thanks for exposing your point .. really :) -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 09:06:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCF8106567C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E98E8FC1C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2755334rvf.43 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DgtLjIRIiBhnVhEfzKY2v/9Nz9WcvNdnUbRHqcThW8s=; b=Qs8R6YTruqmWI+hdVTu1wAq5B6cc0xdxR5EG6cVFKUf+UPb72mKXlLSev7F8MQ+sWr jqRug5rqpmX6Wx9Aj0h4Q5v44i9Ue/KHR0xj901BQkoNl3QWxYFVE7oipYkYBLn7Asns bGCsve74JPcNSTxaYK0uIGuYQ/McRSiXJ1XiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=P2WxlOSv2nOFcggf+njFh1bqfbmjY5z4SYmo1CniRtKP+8ODxgcVBbc2eL8FNgJoOx svB5eJgxJEfI86JyU5R/YLtlU8wobQnqBSmdALUXlpaGw6nh67bNSkBUS8rew2Eqephj j2H/gr7JCtctNo+nRV3rVB9REhsZLihkXNs0E= Received: by 10.114.196.13 with SMTP id t13mr4637219waf.219.1216803990765; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.95.6 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0807230206m4ebcf99eif6d069cb096d7632@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:06:30 +0200 From: VeeJay To: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:06:31 -0000 Really good contribution.... I would of course go with ports but have a question in mind.... What should be installation sequience? 1. Apache 2.2.9 2. MySQL 5.1.26 3. PHP 5.2.6 And are there any options you guys would like to suggest to avoide for performance or security reasons? Regards VJ On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:05 PM, VeeJay wrote: > Hi there > > I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per > month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have > proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and > Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... > *Hardware:* > Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core > 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. > > *Tools:* > 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release > 2. Apache 2.2.9 > 3. MySQL 5.1.26 > 4. PHP 5.2.6 > > My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": > > Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? > > *OR* > Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example giving > command line arguments and commands like > > ./configure --prefix=/www --enable-module=so > make > make install > cd ../php-xxx > ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=/www/bin/apxs > make > make install > > etc.... > > I have googled but still haven't reached to solution...personally I would > prefer comiling them with command line arguments > but then I seek some help from you guys i.e. > > How should I write this ./configure......stuff in FreeBSD and what would be > the best options combination, I must choose to get the speed, performane and > security in Apache, MySQL and PHP? > > Any suggestion is very welcomed! > > -- > Thanks! > > BR / vj > -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 09:51:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF53106566B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay006.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay006.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BF58FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoFAGGchkhR9ckV/2dsb2JhbACBWrBy Received: from 21.201-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.245.201.21]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2008 11:51:21 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6N9mo6C001516; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:48:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Andrew Falanga Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:48:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <340a29540807220721r10e36a99v1a2fa74e2bb2dfa0@mail.gmail.com> <44bq0qc7b1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <200807222220.10176.af300wsm@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200807222220.10176.af300wsm@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807231148.49746.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone used libusb for accessing usb devices here? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:51:42 -0000 On Wednesday 23 July 2008 06:20:09 Andrew Falanga wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 08:38:58 Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> "Andrew Falanga" writes: >>> I'd like to know if anyone here on the list has ever used libusb >>> (http://libusb.sourceforge.net) for accessing usb devices. I >>> successfully compiled and installed it on my FreeBSD 7 laptop but >>> when I run a test program no USB HUBs are found. The same test on >>> a Fedora box works fine. I was wondering what the magic is for >>> FreeBSD since the web site claims the package works on FreeBSD. >> >> libusb is in ports, and a number of other ports use it. >> (See "make search key=libusb".) >> That should provide a variety of working examples. > > Ok, I've installed from the ports collection this time (at home now > on my 6.2p11 box) and I'm seeing busses in my computer. However, > when I plug in my USB thumb drive, a Sandisk Cruizer Micro that the > kernel does see as da0 (verified in /var/log/messages), I don't get > any devices shown. I'm not entirely sure, but it's possible it only shows ugen devices. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 09:54:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256491065675 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from smtp.vub.ac.be (smtp.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD718FC1C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArcAAIx7hkikD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIsgw Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2008 11:25:14 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: VeeJay In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0807230206m4ebcf99eif6d069cb096d7632@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0807230206m4ebcf99eif6d069cb096d7632@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:34:22 +0200 Message-Id: <1216812862.2612.12.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:54:49 -0000 At least ports-mgmt/portaudit, which check if installed ports have published security vulnerabilities. I don't use PHP, but I used to create a separate user for each webapp with a special login class, so I would run PHP in FCGI mode (with something like xcache) instead of mod_php. For the rest ... it's usually a question of configuration. On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 11:06 +0200, VeeJay wrote: > Really good contribution.... > > I would of course go with ports but have a question in mind.... > > What should be installation sequience? > > 1. Apache 2.2.9 > 2. MySQL 5.1.26 > 3. PHP 5.2.6 > And are there any options you guys would like to suggest to avoide for > performance or security reasons? > > Regards > > VJ > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:05 PM, VeeJay wrote: > > > Hi there > > > > I am going to make 2 Webserver at my work going to handle 50 mil hits per > > month... They are using Linux already. But being a FreeBSD fan, I have > > proposed FreeBSD to my Boss convincing him that FreeBSD is more Fast and > > Secure solution for his needs... And now I want to show the results... > > *Hardware:* > > Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core > > 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM. > > > > *Tools:* > > 1. FreeBSD 7 Production Release > > 2. Apache 2.2.9 > > 3. MySQL 5.1.26 > > 4. PHP 5.2.6 > > > > My question is, "*To get the speed, performance and security*": > > > > Should I use Ports or Packages to install all these tools One by One? > > > > *OR* > > Should I use TAR files and compile them manually. For example giving > > command line arguments and commands like > > > > ./configure --prefix=/www --enable-module=so > > make > > make install > > cd ../php-xxx > > ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs=/www/bin/apxs > > make > > make install > > > > etc.... > > > > I have googled but still haven't reached to solution...personally I would > > prefer comiling them with command line arguments > > but then I seek some help from you guys i.e. > > > > How should I write this ./configure......stuff in FreeBSD and what would be > > the best options combination, I must choose to get the speed, performane and > > security in Apache, MySQL and PHP? > > > > Any suggestion is very welcomed! > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > > > BR / vj > > > > > -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 10:49:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5C9106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18FD8FC17 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6NAn1Kk090502 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:49:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6NAn0YO090499 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:49:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:49:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080723124811.Q90498@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: max MFSROOT size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:49:10 -0000 i made 350MB mfsroot, and loader simply ignores to load it. with 100MB it works. machine have 512MB RAM. how to fix it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 12:41:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CCD1065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3951D8FC20 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2834096rvf.43 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:41:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xHAtJ6PAx36Fj+T91IY3M21u6aJlFEQqGEnrsTUuQgg=; b=ZJxGi917LU6Y3Bqvmd+uB6JgWyTz+6t5iCdYO5EHO89wYBFq2Iv1MlJQzhZqny2nBW otq0H0wNtHq7lRX8a1CrmE9ueZMPUzAtzPpbfNH0cRHO8o8mxoLERGd/jWt9+2vhEwww /UrkNHnc+PwbHXAOapQ2GBvVz8YLTbEXPP8Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZZPwSageBo56zsD6E4x2oYQE7FalWbSlMklQTl6jYuMCabt5Ea8zqpuMfNU81B3jli w4z0SedYlmaoWCf/YqfbTVCsN5zKlaiBMMcZFnAYoL6DaLht2PL1v4A5lq7C5x3ySXrh N1Tuhy82rWK29pb3zVnRPZ27LzW9EUkBpNmP0= Received: by 10.140.208.17 with SMTP id f17mr26612rvg.218.1216815122702; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.7 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10549b080807230512x4e0ec30h7c538e251c54920c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:12:02 -0400 From: "FreeBSD Questions" To: "Gonzalo Nemmi" In-Reply-To: <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:41:07 -0000 > Yet your point is completly valid one.. and that's why "The Design and > Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" is the only book that I've > been hesitant on buying so far ... Lucas (Absolute FreeBSD, 2nd Edition), > Lavigne (The Best of FreeBSD Basics), Kong (BSD rootkits), Lehey (Download > edition:) ) are all over my desktop as I write this mail, and I consult them > daily ... Farrokhi (Network Administration with FreeBSD) and Hong (Building a > Server with FreeBSD 7) are the ones coming in the next batch ... Has anyone on the list read "Building a Server with FreeBSD 7: A Modular Approach"? The description on bookpool.com makes it sound a little basic/superficial, covering topics such as how to install FreeBSD and how to install/configure programs via the ports. I'm already very familiar with these topics; does anyone know if this book covers more advanced topics or details like the nitty-gritty of configuing sendmail, apache, samba, NFS, etc? And what about "Absolute FreeBSD"? It's updated for FreeBSD 7, so I know it's current. Is it a "good book"? Is it worth the read? How valuable is its content? (I know I'm asking some very subjective questions, but if I'm going to spend hundreds of $$$ to build my library in this area, I'd like at least a couple of opinions about the books I buy.) > So far .. there are only three books I would have bought but I didn't because > I thought the situation could improve ... those are: "The Design and > Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System", "BSD Hacks" and "The FreeBSD > HandBook"... same reason for all of them .. too old by now (although I think > I'll buy "BSD Hacks" anyways .. I just can't resist buying Lavigne books :( ) Personally, I don't think I'd ever buy "The FreeBSD Handbook". It's a really good resource, but as long as it's actively updated electronically it's too dynamic to buy a hardcopy. I'd much rather read it online where I can get the latest revisions. Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 13:03:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E1B106567F for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E418FC13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tPRs1Z0020Fqzac51R3TUn; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tR3Y1Z00D4KuD453UR3Z4q; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:33 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4RuuYsKKOQAA:10 a=QMbhNPQE5x8A:10 a=GCFeFeJJNVBhi6kU24YA:9 a=z6GrVZC1GE-j8PICl4MA:9 a=KcELUvXPCW-hyvk1lDoA:7 a=4XaloQWBVhEZgA49bHprGbU-WOwA:4 a=K0GF505G8_wA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: Dave To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <10549b080807230512x4e0ec30h7c538e251c54920c@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20080723130334.96E418FC13@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:03:34 -0000 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 08:12:02AM -0400, FreeBSD Questions wrote: >> Yet your point is completly valid one.. and that's why "The Design and >> Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" is the only book that I've >> been hesitant on buying so far ... Lucas (Absolute FreeBSD, 2nd Edition), >> Lavigne (The Best of FreeBSD Basics), Kong (BSD rootkits), Lehey (Download >> edition:) ) are all over my desktop as I write this mail, and I consult them >> daily ... Farrokhi (Network Administration with FreeBSD) and Hong (Building a >> Server with FreeBSD 7) are the ones coming in the next batch ... > >Has anyone on the list read "Building a Server with FreeBSD 7: A >Modular Approach"? The description on bookpool.com makes it sound a >little basic/superficial, covering topics such as how to install >FreeBSD and how to install/configure programs via the ports. I'm >already very familiar with these topics; does anyone know if this book >covers more advanced topics or details like the nitty-gritty of >configuing sendmail, apache, samba, NFS, etc? I have read this book. It's not very useful to me since I run FreeBSD 7 as a desktop. But I did find it interesting. The book provides setup info for many server services. >And what about "Absolute FreeBSD"? It's updated for FreeBSD 7, so I >know it's current. Is it a "good book"? Is it worth the read? How >valuable is its content? (I know I'm asking some very subjective >questions, but if I'm going to spend hundreds of $$$ to build my >library in this area, I'd like at least a couple of opinions about the >books I buy.) Yes. Yes. Very valuable. I give it 5/5 stars. >> So far .. there are only three books I would have bought but I didn't because >> I thought the situation could improve ... those are: "The Design and >> Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System", "BSD Hacks" and "The FreeBSD >> HandBook"... same reason for all of them .. too old by now (although I think >> I'll buy "BSD Hacks" anyways .. I just can't resist buying Lavigne books :( ) > >Personally, I don't think I'd ever buy "The FreeBSD Handbook". It's a >really good resource, but as long as it's actively updated >electronically it's too dynamic to buy a hardcopy. I'd much rather >read it online where I can get the latest revisions. > >Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 13:10:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589DE106566B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2737B8FC1E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KLe6T-000703-4W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:01 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:01 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:01 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:09:53 +0300 Lines: 12 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080718 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 Sender: news Subject: ng_netflow question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:05 -0000 Hi there. I'm stuck with splitting input and output traffic. I can't use srcaddr/dstaddr as the machine generating traffic gets dynamic ip's. I'm thinking of using input/output for that purpose, but it's not clearly stated how this parameters are populated. I.e. for outbound connection we got input=0 and output=ifX but for inbound connections input=output=ifX. Am I missing something here? Should the outbound connections get output=0? -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 13:12:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB515106567A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847928FC20 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1466115fgb.35 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:12:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lpEkotXBg9HE5hFIUxwn4mGwr/A3HMgX6qLfIRzAo5E=; b=vO7PCU43MUPHPsoxunlHhRL3gMah0yPjgzSrc9C4KYOpMQ6rl8YweDLGnI0tY2D64H af2GxBMUCACJ8dfBXJNt60UCCUu0n/wC7Es2lqVVpbWS7uSy3Qy6R/LgMvTl0UH0ipSX oB8VqqkW7ZDtB8C54EJqNZy5U1GMv4tflo/eY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IIePzy75tVYUsfS1ZTK9A2f7kHJwvV5FX1pT/DbYwBU78IhIhX5QuSZMPHUOms77qE wjjq+7WAQe86z4o6GgYoRX8NCOP36OsWkWHgInGMoN1Nr23uBFx4suqKnyFpJACXjOTB 3S/9ROGakuh7zj2yiXVtKiXs6G1RLofVjAzxg= Received: by 10.86.33.10 with SMTP id g10mr69855fgg.14.1216818775000; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org ( [85.73.147.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm7019938fgg.0.2008.07.23.06.12.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48872E53.3070406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:12:51 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> <10549b080807230512x4e0ec30h7c538e251c54920c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <10549b080807230512x4e0ec30h7c538e251c54920c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:12:57 -0000 FreeBSD Questions wrote: > And what about "Absolute FreeBSD"? It's updated for FreeBSD 7, so I > know it's current. Is it a "good book"? Is it worth the read? How > valuable is its content? (I know I'm asking some very subjective > questions, but if I'm going to spend hundreds of $$$ to build my > library in this area, I'd like at least a couple of opinions about the > books I buy.) > > > Absolute FreeBSD is an excellent book, a must have if you ask me. Excellent tips, very good explanation of how things work, relaxed and easy writing style. You will get a lot out of this book. (Note: it is concentrated on server tasks, you will not get any "X" tips from it) > Personally, I don't think I'd ever buy "The FreeBSD Handbook". It's a > really good resource, but as long as it's actively updated > electronically it's too dynamic to buy a hardcopy. I'd much rather > read it online where I can get the latest revisions. > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > > True, the handbook is under constant development - and it should be, to match the system I have a printed version, and it is outdated in several sections. I find hardcopies easier to read though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 13:19:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB501065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C68E8FC26 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tPFq1Z0060b6N64A5RKQlD; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tRKP1Z0064KuD458PRKP2z; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:19:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4RuuYsKKOQAA:10 a=QMbhNPQE5x8A:10 a=t_fuo2KicMF70sayueAA:9 a=3GVvAdMaN7bto1UufTMA:9 a=-_EMolbpVs8XvzabGQ8A:7 a=g3Itm6NSJ5Mghl0a-zcuhQXmjUAA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: dfeustel@mindspring.com To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <48872E53.3070406@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20080723131925.4C68E8FC26@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:19:25 -0000 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 04:12:51PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > FreeBSD Questions wrote: >> And what about "Absolute FreeBSD"? It's updated for FreeBSD 7, so I >> know it's current. Is it a "good book"? Is it worth the read? How >> valuable is its content? (I know I'm asking some very subjective >> questions, but if I'm going to spend hundreds of $$$ to build my >> library in this area, I'd like at least a couple of opinions about the >> books I buy.) >> >> >> > > Absolute FreeBSD is an excellent book, a must have if you ask me. > Excellent tips, very good explanation of how things work, relaxed and easy > writing style. > You will get a lot out of this book. (Note: it is concentrated on server > tasks, you will not get any "X" tips from it) I also recommend _X Power Tools_ for X-related info. Doesn't have everything I would like to know about X, but it filled in many gaps for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 13:21:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6571065674 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652A98FC19 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so14763931agc.3 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:20:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZfkZF+q6JA1a6Gj2tgBt3Vt1NPlCEEmYi4XNsmN4SnI=; b=hoUnRw/O0McAeIeyl0+/Iw++Hb6uuIJXgTxxoWRJ2X0UjlTJmH36vz52U5Fx4QG/2d d7aUsHBI6xE6YUlGWAvcsoRdBP+7EOXVcDdoPfuzClXQab8g9/l56c+BCxgjuAtTG9K/ pInqrb2B0BRaMnAoE+w/WAnIrd5nZt+zzL+6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZYAlGzOJsCKkBpUkE+XRiA99nZ7H4JVwI62aTVQQM8tAd9cUpwo75bRXGjn58ZWhnM fKOqeZEsO/Xg2QEEGq70Nz96HEvBa/IBFBySq3dZ9I7XYo6eRP1QbdNgx4idSYOLNzv2 RvQKXwOj0BCgiQwuqAKXVphQ0Jjt08giocgqA= Received: by 10.100.137.11 with SMTP id k11mr24201and.25.1216819223303; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.201.7 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f3feb90807230620i44b54f51m3111b343e0700f69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:20:23 -0400 From: "darko gavrilovic" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <10549b080807230512x4e0ec30h7c538e251c54920c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> <10549b080807230512x4e0ec30h7c538e251c54920c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:21:23 -0000 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:12 AM, FreeBSD Questions < ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com> wrote: > details like the nitty-gritty of > configuing sendmail, apache, samba, NFS, etc? You might want to look at specific books targeting that software. Check o'rielly.For example http://search.oreilly.com/?q=sendmail Note: you can also look at google books for some of these titles. I have managed to find more that one that I needed and it's a free resource. http://books.google.com/ > And what about "Absolute FreeBSD"? It's updated for FreeBSD 7, so I > know it's current. Is it a "good book"? Is it worth the read? How > valuable is its content? (I know I'm asking some very subjective > questions, but if I'm going to spend hundreds of $$$ to build my > library in this area, I'd like at least a couple of opinions about the > books I buy.) I read it. I think it's a good FreeBSD book. > Personally, I don't think I'd ever buy "The FreeBSD Handbook". It's a > really good resource, but as long as it's actively updated > electronically it's too dynamic to buy a hardcopy. I'd much rather > read it online where I can get the latest revisions. Do you mean "The Complete FreeBSD"? Thats available online for free. http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ The "The FreeBSD Handbook" is the free resource available on www.freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ > > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, dg "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals and shorts. Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that I was wrong. You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 14:07:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1814E106568B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7E48FC20 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAFB3384D; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:07:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:07:14 +0200 From: cpghost To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd (was: FreeBSD for webserver?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:07:18 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:47:04PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the > original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the > author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost > interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for > the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project > and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from > the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both disappeared. > Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar issue. Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? The ports would still go to the primary sites (to conserve bandwidth), but should the original distfile disappear, it would be still available on freebsd. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 14:34:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD5F1065672 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp1-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp3-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4118FC13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp1-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6NEHYCq029535 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:17:35 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AD794E90154; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:17:29 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:17:26 +0100 Message-ID: <005a01c8ecce$d54e5d80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.398, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP 0.00) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:06 -0000 Am running freebsd-update following instructions at http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.htm l Its decided that it cant merge named.conf changes automagically and has dropped me into vi with the file open looking as below. What exactly is it wanting me to do? Tisnt particularly clear, and this is the first time Ive ever attempted an upgrade <<<<<<< current version include "/etc/namedb/rndc.key"; controls { inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; }; // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.21.2.1 2005/09/10 08:27:27 dougb Exp $ ======= // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.26.4.1 2008/01/13 20:48:23 dougb Exp $ >>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE // // Refer to the named.conf(5) and named(8) man pages, and the documentation // in /usr/share/doc/bind9 for more details. // // If you are going to set up an authoritative server, make sure you // understand the hairy details of how DNS works. Even with // simple mistakes, you can break connectivity for affected parties, // or cause huge amounts of useless Internet traffic. options { <<<<<<< current version pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; ======= // Relative to the chroot directory, if any >>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE directory "/etc/namedb"; dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; // If named is being used only as a local resolver, this is a safe default. // For named to be accessible to the network, comment this option, specify // the proper IP address, or delete this option. listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; // If you have IPv6 enabled on this system, uncomment this option for // use as a local resolver. To give access to the network, specify // an IPv6 address, or the keyword "any". // listen-on-v6 { ::1; }; // These zones are already covered by the empty zones listed below. // If you remove the related empty zones below, comment these lines out. disable-empty-zone "255.255.255.255.IN-ADDR.ARPA"; disable-empty-zone "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; disable-empty-zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; // In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name // server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its // forwarders only, by enabling the following line: // // forward only; // If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter // its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you // benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet. /* forwarders { 127.0.0.1; }; */ /* * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source * directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked * questions using port 53, but BIND versions 8 and later * use a pseudo-random unprivileged UDP port by default. */ // query-source address * port 53; }; // If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1 // first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried. // Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf. // The traditional root hints mechanism. Use this, OR the slave zones below. zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; /* Slaving the following zones from the root name servers has some significant advantages: 1. Faster local resolution for your users 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots 3. Greater resilience to any potential root server failure/DDoS On the other hand, this method requires more monitoring than the hints file to be sure that an unexpected failure mode has not incapacitated your server. Name servers that are serving a lot of clients will benefit more from this approach than individual hosts. Use with caution. To use this mechanism, uncomment the entries below, and comment the hint zone above. */ /* zone "." { <<<<<<< current version type hint; file "/etc/namedb/named.root"; ======= type slave; file "slave/root.slave"; masters { 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. }; notify no; >>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE }; <<<<<<< current version zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/localhost.rev"; ======= zone "arpa" { type slave; file "slave/arpa.slave"; masters { 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. }; notify no; >>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE }; <<<<<<< current version // RFC 3152 zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA" { type master; file "/etc/namedb/localhost-v6.rev"; ======= zone "in-addr.arpa" { type slave; file "slave/in-addr.arpa.slave"; masters { 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. }; notify no; >>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE }; */ /* Serving the following zones locally will prevent any queries for these zones leaving your network and going to the root name servers. This has two significant advantages: 1. Faster local resolution for your users 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots (no other <<>>>7.0-RELEASE beyond this point Marc A Coyles ICT Support Team (ext 730) Mbl: 07850 518106 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 14:45:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37011106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F918FC0C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6NEjDoY091463; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:45:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6NEjD8A091460; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:45:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:45:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <20080723164411.C91389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:45:23 -0000 > doubt, since even after googling for nearly five days I couldn't find any > solution. > > Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The earlier > 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for me without > any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it simply gives me > ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer why such questions are on FreeBSD list ? rdp/rdesktop is not FreeBSD specific at all, and FreeBSD is not Windows. search the rdesktop mailing list etc. and ask there! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 14:48:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE6B106567D; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2908FC15; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6NEmUPp028551; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:48:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m6NEmUPp028551 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1216824510; bh=jQPcwKa0IJhD0y rtg/3/R+Osks3XbZuqFyj3CH7Zg+8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<488744B8.1020508@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,=2 023=20Jul=202008=2015:48:24=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20cpghost=20|CC:=20FreeBSD-Questions=20< freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd-ports@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20Auto-saving=20distfiles=20on=20freebsd|Reference s:=20<792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu>=09=20<20080723140714.GA24632 @epia-2.farid-hajji.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<20080723140714.GA24632@epi a-2.farid-hajji.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20m ultipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"app lication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigA216 D8B059350DFBF1966E91"; b=w/1VYMLBjfW+mRyukUo22pDH28NqhJJz9cv3nK6EIP joICi5623j7rm/dAZ29v+k0SMJmxgzW7nadcUJ68g7SYA1yF5uxSiJxh7iVVYyg9Y26 WFwS5DuMzdRqG6Uc+oBQtrAVz22Rv4DrHVpwKrsSc8lIn605lb5Fory+ILC26Q= Message-ID: <488744B8.1020508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:48:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA216D8B059350DFBF1966E91" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:48:30 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/7796/Wed Jul 23 06:45:42 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:48:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA216D8B059350DFBF1966E91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cpghost wrote: > Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every > *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd > (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? Some might say that this already happens. Well, it's on ftp.freebsd.org rather than pointyhat, and it's only for the ports that are built by the package build cluster. Take a look at=20 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ (Warning: very long listing) I'm not sure what the policy is about getting rid of old distfiles, but there are generally several generations of distfile in there -- about 2 or 3 years worth. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA216D8B059350DFBF1966E91 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkiHRL0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzV7wCfTM10n9741+mCqOnx/mcIGnsS swUAn3EoMew/gLvQyXqxEgvP0rrr9HPu =i9j8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA216D8B059350DFBF1966E91-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 14:51:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52C0106567B; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487778FC0A; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4887455E.6070504@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:51:10 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:51:11 -0000 cpghost wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:47:04PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the >> original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the >> author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost >> interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for >> the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project >> and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from >> the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both disappeared. >> Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar issue. > > Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every > *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd > (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? We've regularly collected and published port distfiles for at least a decade (with increasingly higher frequency as disk space came to permit). It may come as no surprise that Ted is talking out of his ass again :) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 14:54:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA861065674; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76DA8FC1D; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4887463C.40701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:54:52 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <488744B8.1020508@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <488744B8.1020508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cpghost , FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:54:52 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > cpghost wrote: > >> Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every >> *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd >> (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? > > Some might say that this already happens. > > Well, it's on ftp.freebsd.org rather than pointyhat, and it's only for > the ports that are built by the package build cluster. Take a look at > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ (Warning: very long > listing) > > I'm not sure what the policy is about getting rid of old distfiles, but > there are generally several generations of distfile in there -- about 2 > or 3 years worth. Basically we don't delete them any more unless we have to (e.g. porter accidentally allowed redistribution of a distfile for which we don't have permission). In the past we (I) occasionally weeded out everything except for the past couple of release distfile sets (and the current set) because we needed the space, but this is a pain in the ass to do and there hasn't been a need in some years. Thesedays we indeed collect distfiles with every build. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:11:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355D31065676 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2A608FC1B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 67426 invoked by uid 89); 23 Jul 2008 15:15:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 23 Jul 2008 15:15:39 -0000 Message-ID: <48874A31.3070309@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:11:45 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <20080723164411.C91389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080723164411.C91389@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD , User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:11:29 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> doubt, since even after googling for nearly five days I couldn't find >> any solution. >> >> Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The >> earlier 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked >> for me without any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the >> server, it simply gives me >> ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer > > why such questions are on FreeBSD list ? > > rdp/rdesktop is not FreeBSD specific at all, and FreeBSD is not Windows. > > search the rdesktop mailing list etc. and ask there! Did you even consider the possibility that the OP is connecting to a terminal/rdp server from a FreeBSD workstation? I know I've done it numerous times in the past. I think that if this is the case, its very FreeBSD related. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:13:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB402106566B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2683F8FC13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.lon.namesco.net (126.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m6NFDDEX042074 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:13:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48874A80.4090705@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:13:04 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <005a01c8ecce$d54e5d80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> In-Reply-To: <005a01c8ecce$d54e5d80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:13:09 -0000 Marc Coyles wrote: > Am running freebsd-update following instructions at > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.htm > l > > I did similar recently, although I went from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7 (almost certainly not necessary though.) > It’s decided that it can’t merge named.conf changes automagically and has > dropped me into vi with the file open… looking as below. What exactly is it > wanting me to do? T’isn’t particularly clear, and this is the first time > I’ve ever attempted an upgrade… > > Basicly, its saying the current version contains whatever it lists up to the ======= and the 7 release version has whatever is after the seperator, up to the >>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE and you need to edit it to say what you want it to be. If you have never modifed the file, just delete the current stuff and leave the 7.0-RELEASE stuff. I have a very customised named.conf so i just said that whatever was fine and then restored it from backup after the upgrade was finished. Vince > <<<<<<< current version > include "/etc/namedb/rndc.key"; > > controls { > inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; > }; > > // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.21.2.1 2005/09/10 08:27:27 dougb > Exp > $ > ======= > // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.26.4.1 2008/01/13 20:48:23 dougb > Exp > $ > >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE >>>>>>>> > // > // Refer to the named.conf(5) and named(8) man pages, and the documentation > // in /usr/share/doc/bind9 for more details. > // > // If you are going to set up an authoritative server, make sure you > // understand the hairy details of how DNS works. Even with > // simple mistakes, you can break connectivity for affected parties, > // or cause huge amounts of useless Internet traffic. > > options { > <<<<<<< current version > pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; > ======= > // Relative to the chroot directory, if any > >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE >>>>>>>> > directory "/etc/namedb"; > dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; > statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; > > // If named is being used only as a local resolver, this is a safe default. > // For named to be accessible to the network, comment this option, specify > // the proper IP address, or delete this option. > listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; > > // If you have IPv6 enabled on this system, uncomment this option for > // use as a local resolver. To give access to the network, specify > // an IPv6 address, or the keyword "any". > // listen-on-v6 { ::1; }; > > // These zones are already covered by the empty zones listed below. > // If you remove the related empty zones below, comment these lines out. > disable-empty-zone "255.255.255.255.IN-ADDR.ARPA"; > disable-empty-zone > "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. > 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; > disable-empty-zone > "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. > 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; > > // In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name > // server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its > // forwarders only, by enabling the following line: > // > // forward only; > // If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter > // its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you > // benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet. > /* > forwarders { > 127.0.0.1; > }; > */ > /* > * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want > * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source > * directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked > * questions using port 53, but BIND versions 8 and later > * use a pseudo-random unprivileged UDP port by default. > */ > // query-source address * port 53; > }; > > // If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1 > // first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried. > // Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf. > > // The traditional root hints mechanism. Use this, OR the slave zones below. > zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; > > /* Slaving the following zones from the root name servers has some > significant advantages: > 1. Faster local resolution for your users > 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots > 3. Greater resilience to any potential root server failure/DDoS > > On the other hand, this method requires more monitoring than the > hints file to be sure that an unexpected failure mode has not > incapacitated your server. Name servers that are serving a lot > of clients will benefit more from this approach than individual > hosts. Use with caution. > > To use this mechanism, uncomment the entries below, and comment > the hint zone above. > */ > /* > zone "." { > <<<<<<< current version > type hint; > file "/etc/namedb/named.root"; > ======= > type slave; > file "slave/root.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; > >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE >>>>>>>> > }; > <<<<<<< current version > > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/localhost.rev"; > ======= > zone "arpa" { > type slave; > file "slave/arpa.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; > >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE >>>>>>>> > }; > <<<<<<< current version > > // RFC 3152 > zone > "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA" > { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/localhost-v6.rev"; > ======= > zone "in-addr.arpa" { > type slave; > file "slave/in-addr.arpa.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; > >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE >>>>>>>> > }; > */ > > /* Serving the following zones locally will prevent any queries > for these zones leaving your network and going to the root > name servers. This has two significant advantages: > 1. Faster local resolution for your users > 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots > > > (no other <<>>>7.0-RELEASE beyond this point… > > Marc A Coyles > ICT Support Team (ext 730) > Mbl: 07850 518106 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:15:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D1C1065672 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6CD8FC1E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6NFBnDl099229; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:11:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6NFBnDn099228; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:11:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:11:49 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: darko gavrilovic Message-ID: <20080723151149.GB99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> <82f3feb90807221554u14fad52ep2bb77b486c6f251a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82f3feb90807221554u14fad52ep2bb77b486c6f251a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Chocas, Connie S" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:15:15 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:54:39PM -0400, darko gavrilovic wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/where.html I don't see anywhere in that reference that the question is answered or even alluded to. It does give information on how to obtain a copy of FreeBSD, but nothing about ECC. ////jerry > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Chocas, Connie S wrote: > > > I would appreciate you assistance in providing the U.S. Commerce Department > > Export Control Classification for FreeBSD 6.3. > > Thank you, > > > > Connie Chocas > > Sandia National Laboratories > > Classification and Export Control > > Phone: (505) 844-5982; Fax: (505) 284-4927 > > Email: cschoca@sandia.gov > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > -- > regards, > dg > > "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals and > shorts. > Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that I was > wrong. > You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:16:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6661E1065672 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2079C8FC29 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NFG095035745; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:16:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vBUEJNqh+sk1; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:15:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NFFo0U035737; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:15:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <48874B21.1010800@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:15:45 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <005a01c8ecce$d54e5d80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> In-Reply-To: <005a01c8ecce$d54e5d80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:16:02 -0000 Marc Coyles wrote: > Am running freebsd-update following instructions at > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.html > > Its decided that it cant merge named.conf changes automagically and has > dropped me into vi with the file open looking as below. What exactly is it > wanting me to do? Tisnt particularly clear, and this is the first time > Ive ever attempted an upgrade It's [apparently] expecting you to use vi to create a named.conf that will work, and showing you the contents of both the old named.conf and the one found in 7.0-RELEASE. I'm not familiar with freebsd-update (still using the old csup/buildworld routine) but it sure look like mergemaster, more or less, except that mergemaster not only allowed you to leave it until later and do the merge "by hand" but also had a two-column "diff" with a selector routine, so you could create a "merged" version on-the-fly. Is the box an important DNS server? What happens if you just save the file as is and try and come back to it later? (YMMV, standard disclaimer, and all that). if you've *never* edited named.conf before, you'd probably be OK to just remove all the current version stuff in favor of the 7.0-RELEASE stuff, *but* generally all my boxen *have* been altered, so that wouldn't work. > <<<<<<< current version > include "/etc/namedb/rndc.key"; > > controls { > inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; > }; > > // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.21.2.1 2005/09/10 08:27:27 dougb > Exp > $ > ======= > // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.26.4.1 2008/01/13 20:48:23 dougb > Exp > $ >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > // > // Refer to the named.conf(5) and named(8) man pages, and the documentation > // in /usr/share/doc/bind9 for more details. > // > // If you are going to set up an authoritative server, make sure you > // understand the hairy details of how DNS works. Even with > // simple mistakes, you can break connectivity for affected parties, > // or cause huge amounts of useless Internet traffic. > > options { > <<<<<<< current version > pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; > ======= > // Relative to the chroot directory, if any >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > directory "/etc/namedb"; > dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; > statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; > > // If named is being used only as a local resolver, this is a safe default. > // For named to be accessible to the network, comment this option, specify > // the proper IP address, or delete this option. > listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; > > // If you have IPv6 enabled on this system, uncomment this option for > // use as a local resolver. To give access to the network, specify > // an IPv6 address, or the keyword "any". > // listen-on-v6 { ::1; }; > > // These zones are already covered by the empty zones listed below. > // If you remove the related empty zones below, comment these lines out. > disable-empty-zone "255.255.255.255.IN-ADDR.ARPA"; > disable-empty-zone > "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. > 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; > disable-empty-zone > "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. > 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; > > // In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name > // server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its > // forwarders only, by enabling the following line: > // > // forward only; > // If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter > // its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you > // benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet. > /* > forwarders { > 127.0.0.1; > }; > */ > /* > * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want > * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source > * directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked > * questions using port 53, but BIND versions 8 and later > * use a pseudo-random unprivileged UDP port by default. > */ > // query-source address * port 53; > }; > > // If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1 > // first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried. > // Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf. > > // The traditional root hints mechanism. Use this, OR the slave zones below. > zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; > > /* Slaving the following zones from the root name servers has some > significant advantages: > 1. Faster local resolution for your users > 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots > 3. Greater resilience to any potential root server failure/DDoS > > On the other hand, this method requires more monitoring than the > hints file to be sure that an unexpected failure mode has not > incapacitated your server. Name servers that are serving a lot > of clients will benefit more from this approach than individual > hosts. Use with caution. > > To use this mechanism, uncomment the entries below, and comment > the hint zone above. > */ > /* > zone "." { > <<<<<<< current version > type hint; > file "/etc/namedb/named.root"; > ======= > type slave; > file "slave/root.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > }; > <<<<<<< current version > > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/localhost.rev"; > ======= > zone "arpa" { > type slave; > file "slave/arpa.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > }; > <<<<<<< current version > > // RFC 3152 > zone > "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA" > { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/localhost-v6.rev"; > ======= > zone "in-addr.arpa" { > type slave; > file "slave/in-addr.arpa.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > }; > */ > > /* Serving the following zones locally will prevent any queries > for these zones leaving your network and going to the root > name servers. This has two significant advantages: > 1. Faster local resolution for your users > 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots > > > (no other <<>>>7.0-RELEASE beyond this point > > Marc A Coyles > ICT Support Team (ext 730) > Mbl: 07850 518106 Good luck, Kevin Kinsey -- The three best things about going to school are June, July, and August. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:20:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BEF1065682 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A1E8FC1F for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6NFHLu1099261; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:17:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6NFHLnr099260; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:17:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:17:21 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Paul Schmehl , VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20080723151720.GC99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:20:46 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:01:44PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > [...] > > > Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to work, > > be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. > > Ahem, and that 'just works' crowd is generally not found using FreeBSD or in > an admin capacity. :-) Huh??? That is what you get with FreeBSD. It works and requires a lot less handholding as a server. As a web server, FreeBSD requires almost no admin tinkering. You set it up, configure Apache and then it just works. ////jerry > > -- > Sahil Tandon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:23:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4611065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp2-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122268FC0C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6NFNHko003468; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:23:18 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id ACDFDED00A2; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:23:11 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: "'Kevin Kinsey'" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:23:08 +0100 Message-ID: <007401c8ecd8$02d5db80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <48874B21.1010800@daleco.biz> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.398, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP 0.00) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:23:37 -0000 Have left as is (for now). Finish the rest off tomorrow... The box runs WHM / cPanel... and just holds a few vhosts under single domain. DNS is handled by ISP's servers... If anything in original was modified, it was done by WHM/cPanel, not me... Am at the freebsd-update install point now... so will have another look at things in the morning with fresh eyes... Ta fer the suggestions folks! Marc A Coyles ICT Support Team (ext 730) Mbl: 07850 518106 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Kinsey [mailto:kdk@daleco.biz] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:16 PM To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! Marc Coyles wrote: > Am running freebsd-update following instructions at > http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.htm l > > Its decided that it cant merge named.conf changes automagically and has > dropped me into vi with the file open looking as below. What exactly is it > wanting me to do? Tisnt particularly clear, and this is the first time > Ive ever attempted an upgrade It's [apparently] expecting you to use vi to create a named.conf that will work, and showing you the contents of both the old named.conf and the one found in 7.0-RELEASE. I'm not familiar with freebsd-update (still using the old csup/buildworld routine) but it sure look like mergemaster, more or less, except that mergemaster not only allowed you to leave it until later and do the merge "by hand" but also had a two-column "diff" with a selector routine, so you could create a "merged" version on-the-fly. Is the box an important DNS server? What happens if you just save the file as is and try and come back to it later? (YMMV, standard disclaimer, and all that). if you've *never* edited named.conf before, you'd probably be OK to just remove all the current version stuff in favor of the 7.0-RELEASE stuff, *but* generally all my boxen *have* been altered, so that wouldn't work. > <<<<<<< current version > include "/etc/namedb/rndc.key"; > > controls { > inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { "rndc-key"; }; > }; > > // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.21.2.1 2005/09/10 08:27:27 dougb > Exp > $ > ======= > // $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.conf,v 1.26.4.1 2008/01/13 20:48:23 dougb > Exp > $ >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > // > // Refer to the named.conf(5) and named(8) man pages, and the documentation > // in /usr/share/doc/bind9 for more details. > // > // If you are going to set up an authoritative server, make sure you > // understand the hairy details of how DNS works. Even with > // simple mistakes, you can break connectivity for affected parties, > // or cause huge amounts of useless Internet traffic. > > options { > <<<<<<< current version > pid-file "/var/run/named/pid"; > ======= > // Relative to the chroot directory, if any >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > directory "/etc/namedb"; > dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db"; > statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats"; > > // If named is being used only as a local resolver, this is a safe default. > // For named to be accessible to the network, comment this option, specify > // the proper IP address, or delete this option. > listen-on { 127.0.0.1; }; > > // If you have IPv6 enabled on this system, uncomment this option for > // use as a local resolver. To give access to the network, specify > // an IPv6 address, or the keyword "any". > // listen-on-v6 { ::1; }; > > // These zones are already covered by the empty zones listed below. > // If you remove the related empty zones below, comment these lines out. > disable-empty-zone "255.255.255.255.IN-ADDR.ARPA"; > disable-empty-zone > "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. > 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; > disable-empty-zone > "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0. > 0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"; > > // In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name > // server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its > // forwarders only, by enabling the following line: > // > // forward only; > // If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter > // its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you > // benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet. > /* > forwarders { > 127.0.0.1; > }; > */ > /* > * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want > * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source > * directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked > * questions using port 53, but BIND versions 8 and later > * use a pseudo-random unprivileged UDP port by default. > */ > // query-source address * port 53; > }; > > // If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1 > // first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried. > // Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf. > > // The traditional root hints mechanism. Use this, OR the slave zones below. > zone "." { type hint; file "named.root"; }; > > /* Slaving the following zones from the root name servers has some > significant advantages: > 1. Faster local resolution for your users > 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots > 3. Greater resilience to any potential root server failure/DDoS > > On the other hand, this method requires more monitoring than the > hints file to be sure that an unexpected failure mode has not > incapacitated your server. Name servers that are serving a lot > of clients will benefit more from this approach than individual > hosts. Use with caution. > > To use this mechanism, uncomment the entries below, and comment > the hint zone above. > */ > /* > zone "." { > <<<<<<< current version > type hint; > file "/etc/namedb/named.root"; > ======= > type slave; > file "slave/root.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > }; > <<<<<<< current version > > zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/localhost.rev"; > ======= > zone "arpa" { > type slave; > file "slave/arpa.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > }; > <<<<<<< current version > > // RFC 3152 > zone > "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA" > { > type master; > file "/etc/namedb/localhost-v6.rev"; > ======= > zone "in-addr.arpa" { > type slave; > file "slave/in-addr.arpa.slave"; > masters { > 192.5.5.241; // F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. > }; > notify no; >>>>>>>> 7.0-RELEASE > }; > */ > > /* Serving the following zones locally will prevent any queries > for these zones leaving your network and going to the root > name servers. This has two significant advantages: > 1. Faster local resolution for your users > 2. No spurious traffic will be sent from your network to the roots > > > (no other <<>>>7.0-RELEASE beyond this point > > Marc A Coyles > ICT Support Team (ext 730) > Mbl: 07850 518106 Good luck, Kevin Kinsey -- The three best things about going to school are June, July, and August. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:28:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3101065674 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2FC8FC1B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NFS0HU035961; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:28:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id J9vUUNf3KSW4; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:27:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NFRoFe035954; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:27:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <48874DF0.7060109@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:27:44 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:28:05 -0000 FreeBSD Questions wrote: > This book was printed in August 2004. This predates FBSD 5, and I > know there were some significant changes between the 4.x and 5.x > branches. We've progressed further and are now into version 7. How > well does this book apply to more current versions of FreeBSD, such as > version 7? I stand ready for correction, but "Design & Implementation" is mostly about, well, the design of the system itself ... not an operational manual but a programmer's guide to OS internals. And, not only that, but it's about 4.4BSD (1993?), so the exact OS described is quite old*; however, it's of great value not only as history but as 4.4BSD has fed code into not only FreeBSD, but NetBSD, OpenBSD, and others. (see /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree). If that's not of interest to you I'd not worry about this book --- no offence to Mr. McKusick et al, of course. Kevin Kinsey *Notwithstanding the fact that most likely the reason the last edition was printed in '04 was because they'd updated it to reflect changes in the previous 10 years. Perhaps another edition around 2013-14? -- I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:33:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8F71065673 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtanis@mdchs.org) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF8E8FC14 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtanis@mdchs.org) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080723153331.SVE26743.mta21.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:33:31 -0400 Received: from portal.mdchs.org ([96.32.128.193]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080723153331.KNUK7436.aarprv04.charter.net@portal.mdchs.org>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:33:31 -0400 Received: from phpmailer ([75.137.180.188]) by portal.mdchs.org with HTTP (PHPMailer); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:31:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:31:02 -0400 To: FreeBSD-Questions From: James Tanis Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.71] X-Mailer: FeLaMiMail In-Reply-To: <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Organization: Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd (was: FreeBSD for webserver?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:33:43 -0000 "cpghost" wrote: > The ports would still go to the primary sites (to conserve bandwidth), > but should the original distfile disappear, it would be still available > on freebsd. I think his problem comes from the fact that some ports don't do this, not that it isn't a good idea. The port maintainers just never did it. -- James Tanis Technical Coordinator Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School e: jtanis@mdchs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:47:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F1F1065678; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363D18FC1C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48875291.1000802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:47:29 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Tanis References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:47:34 -0000 James Tanis wrote: > "cpghost" wrote: >> The ports would still go to the primary sites (to conserve bandwidth), >> but should the original distfile disappear, it would be still available >> on freebsd. > > I think his problem comes from the fact that some ports don't do this, not > that it isn't a good idea. The port maintainers just never did it. No, you're both mistaken: # MASTER_SITE_BACKUP # - Backup location(s) for distribution files and patch # files if not found locally and ${MASTER_SITES}/${PATCH_SITES} # Default: # ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/${DIST_SUBDIR}/ All ports fall back to fetching from the master distfile repository if they can't be found at the upstream sites. This dates back at least to 1996. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE920106567A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.124.104.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAD98FC14 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 86701 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2008 15:49:58 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 86687, pid: 86698, t: 0.1299s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-233.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.1.46?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.9.233) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 23 Jul 2008 15:49:58 -0000 Message-ID: <48875320.40500@pixelhammer.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:49:52 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723010144.GB17377@shepherd> <20080723151720.GC99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080723151720.GC99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:49:59 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:01:44PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > >> Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Some people enjoy doing that. Most people just want the software to work, >>> be easy to maintain and upgrade and then stay out of their way. >> Ahem, and that 'just works' crowd is generally not found using FreeBSD or in >> an admin capacity. :-) > > > Huh??? That is what you get with FreeBSD. It works and > requires a lot less handholding as a server. As a web server, FreeBSD > requires almost no admin tinkering. You set it up, configure Apache > and then it just works. > > ////jerry > Confirmed, I am getting my first taste of Centos this month. We needed to use Centos to meet a client requirement. I could have the server up in a few hours with FBSD. At the moment I am waiting for the Linux admin to finish building custom RPMs for everything I install because we need software either not in the YUM repository, or not configured the same as the RPM maintainer configured. When I say "I'll just build from source" the blood runs out of his face and he says "That is not a good idea, everything needs to be an RPM, it would be bad, we can't do that". What a pain. DAve -- Don't tell me I'm driving the cart! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7E31065677 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F818FC13 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0832cde34@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,239,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="4943494" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2008 10:56:29 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2721523DDF; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:56:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:56:29 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: VeeJay , FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0807230206m4ebcf99eif6d069cb096d7632@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0807221305r5ae70309w4313dbea62d3fdf0@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0807230206m4ebcf99eif6d069cb096d7632@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:56:30 -0000 --On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:06:30 +0200 VeeJay wrote: > Really good contribution.... > > I would of course go with ports but have a question in mind.... > > What should be installation sequience? > > 1. Apache 2.2.9 > 2. MySQL 5.1.26 > 3. PHP 5.2.6 Install Apache before you install php. Mysql doesn't matter. The default installs of all three should be fine unless you're doing something unusual. You'll also need to install php-extensions. Run "make config" first and decide which ones you need to have installed (after installing php5 of course.) > And are there any options you guys would like to suggest to avoide for > performance or security reasons? > Setup mysql to listen on localhost only *or* to not listen on tcp at all and use unix sockets instead. Mysql, by default, comes with four accounts with blank passwords; root@FQHN, root@localhost, ""@FQHN and ""@localhost (yes, that's "blank" @.) Remove all those accounts except root@localhost and then set a very good password for root. Create *new* and separate accounts for *every* database you create and grant only the rights needed to perform the task. Most applications only need select, insert, update and delete. Test it with those and add other rights if necessary. Install portaudit and aggressively update when security issues are found in any of the apps on your server. Do not enable any services that are not needed to do the job, and restrict access to ssh to only those networks and accounts that really need access. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:57:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DBF1065670 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8886E8FC1D for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FD128469; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 480181CC35; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:57:04 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD Questions , questions@freebsd.org References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <48874DF0.7060109@daleco.biz> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:57:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <48874DF0.7060109@daleco.biz> (Kevin Kinsey's message of "Wed\, 23 Jul 2008 10\:27\:44 -0500") Message-ID: <44iquwpp9r.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:57:08 -0000 Kevin Kinsey writes: > FreeBSD Questions wrote: >> This book was printed in August 2004. This predates FBSD 5, and I >> know there were some significant changes between the 4.x and 5.x >> branches. We've progressed further and are now into version 7. How >> well does this book apply to more current versions of FreeBSD, such as >> version 7? > > I stand ready for correction, but "Design & Implementation" is mostly > about, well, the design of the system itself ... not an operational > manual but a programmer's guide to OS internals. Quite correct. > And, not only that, > but it's about 4.4BSD (1993?), so the exact OS described is quite old*; Not quite correct. The more recent edition was retitled to more accurately denote the fact that it covers FreeBSD (5). -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 15:59:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3694F106567C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E4B8FC19; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8E134AF1; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:59:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:59:03 +0200 From: cpghost To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20080723175903.7c5d0a9e@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <4887455E.6070504@FreeBSD.org> References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <4887455E.6070504@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:59:09 -0000 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:51:10 +0200 Kris Kennaway wrote: > cpghost wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:47:04PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the > >> original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the > >> author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost > >> interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for > >> the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project > >> and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from > >> the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both > >> disappeared. Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar > >> issue. > > > > Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every > > *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd > > (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? > > We've regularly collected and published port distfiles for at least a > decade (with increasingly higher frequency as disk space came to > permit). It may come as no surprise that Ted is talking out of his > ass again :) > > Kris Ah, thanks! Good to know, and it's good news! :) Will distfiles for ports that are no longer in the tree remain there as well, so that these ports can still be compiled with an older ports tree (yes, I know about the hairy security and dependency issues involved with old unmaintained and even dead ports...)? Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 16:06:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8702106566B; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BAF8FC2F; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4887570C.50700@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:06:36 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <4887455E.6070504@FreeBSD.org> <20080723175903.7c5d0a9e@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080723175903.7c5d0a9e@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:06:42 -0000 cpghost wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:51:10 +0200 > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> cpghost wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:47:04PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>>> Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the >>>> original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the >>>> author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost >>>> interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for >>>> the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project >>>> and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from >>>> the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both >>>> disappeared. Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar >>>> issue. >>> Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every >>> *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd >>> (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? >> We've regularly collected and published port distfiles for at least a >> decade (with increasingly higher frequency as disk space came to >> permit). It may come as no surprise that Ted is talking out of his >> ass again :) >> >> Kris > > Ah, thanks! Good to know, and it's good news! :) > > Will distfiles for ports that are no longer in the tree > remain there as well, so that these ports can still be > compiled with an older ports tree (yes, I know about the > hairy security and dependency issues involved with old > unmaintained and even dead ports...)? Yes, as I mentioned in another reply it's been years since I have had to clean out old distfiles for space reasons, and there's no other need to do that so they will remain indefinitely. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 16:17:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B18106564A; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167008FC12; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2800734B1C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:17:12 +0200 From: cpghost To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20080723181712.4a83361e@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <4887570C.50700@FreeBSD.org> References: <792213D8B249EC1C41EA0662@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080723140714.GA24632@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <4887455E.6070504@FreeBSD.org> <20080723175903.7c5d0a9e@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <4887570C.50700@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auto-saving distfiles on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:17:22 -0000 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:06:36 +0200 Kris Kennaway wrote: > cpghost wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:51:10 +0200 > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > >> cpghost wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:47:04PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>>> Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the > >>>> original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the > >>>> author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost > >>>> interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for > >>>> the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project > >>>> and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from > >>>> the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both > >>>> disappeared. Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar > >>>> issue. > >>> Why not add this to pointyhat scripts? Just upload a copy of every > >>> *new* distfile ever encountered from the author's page to freebsd > >>> (unless there are legal constraints not to do so, of course)? > >> We've regularly collected and published port distfiles for at > >> least a decade (with increasingly higher frequency as disk space > >> came to permit). It may come as no surprise that Ted is talking > >> out of his ass again :) > >> > >> Kris > > > > Ah, thanks! Good to know, and it's good news! :) > > > > Will distfiles for ports that are no longer in the tree > > remain there as well, so that these ports can still be > > compiled with an older ports tree (yes, I know about the > > hairy security and dependency issues involved with old > > unmaintained and even dead ports...)? > > Yes, as I mentioned in another reply it's been years since I have had > to clean out old distfiles for space reasons, and there's no other > need to do that so they will remain indefinitely. > > Kris Great! That's indeed the best solution. ;) Thanks again, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 16:18:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35862106564A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cschoca@sandia.gov) Received: from sentry.sandia.gov (mm03snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC9B8FC0A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cschoca@sandia.gov) Received: from [134.253.165.160] by sentry.sandia.gov with ESMTP (SMTP Relay 01 (Email Firewall v6.3.1)); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:18:34 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: AA8306FD-23D1-4E5B-B133-B2D9F10C3631 Received: from ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.165.152]) by Cas2.srn.sandia.gov ([134.253.165.160]) with mapi; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:18:33 -0600 From: "Chocas, Connie S" To: "'Jerry McAllister'" , "darko gavrilovic" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:18:32 -0600 Thread-Topic: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification Thread-Index: Acjs1u5rRZFC7522QziR9XGT6Ys3jAAB6JqQ Message-ID: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C8A0@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> References: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> <82f3feb90807221554u14fad52ep2bb77b486c6f251a@mail.gmail.com> <20080723151149.GB99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080723151149.GB99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TMWD-Spam-Summary: TS=20080723161835; SEV=2.2.2; DFV=B2008072310; IFV=2.0.4,4.0-9; AIF=B2008072310; RPD=5.02.0125; ENG=IBF; RPDID=7374723D303030312E30413031303230392E34383837353944422E303042392C73733D312C6667733D30; CAT=NONE; CON=NONE X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: B2008072310_5.02.0125_4.0-9 X-WSS-ID: 649986532J43352841-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: RE: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:18:45 -0000 I could not find anything referencing export controls for FreeBSD. You ma= y find the following link for Apache Software Foundation products helpful. = This is the type is information that is needed to determine what is requir= ed to legally export software. If FreeBSD has any cryptographic functions = there are export restrictions that need to be considered. http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/#matrix Connie -----Original Message----- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:12 AM To: darko gavrilovic Cc: Chocas, Connie S; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:54:39PM -0400, darko gavrilovic wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/where.html I don't see anywhere in that reference that the question is answered or even alluded to. It does give information on how to obtain a copy of FreeBSD, but nothing about ECC. ////jerry > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Chocas, Connie S wro= te: > > > I would appreciate you assistance in providing the U.S. Commerce > > Department Export Control Classification for FreeBSD 6.3. > > Thank you, > > > > Connie Chocas > > Sandia National Laboratories > > Classification and Export Control > > Phone: (505) 844-5982; Fax: (505) 284-4927 > > Email: cschoca@sandia.gov > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > -- > regards, > dg > > "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals > and shorts. > Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that > I was wrong. > You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 16:20:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E32106564A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtanis@mdchs.org) Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C978FC0A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtanis@mdchs.org) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080723154659.BEVK26743.mta21.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:46:59 -0400 Received: from portal.mdchs.org ([96.32.128.193]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080723154659.KRNR570.aarprv06.charter.net@portal.mdchs.org>; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:46:59 -0400 Received: from phpmailer ([75.137.180.188]) by portal.mdchs.org with HTTP (PHPMailer); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:44:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:44:27 -0400 To: Kevin Kinsey , FreeBSD Questions From: James Tanis Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.71] X-Mailer: FeLaMiMail In-Reply-To: <48874DF0.7060109@daleco.biz> Organization: Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:20:38 -0000 "Kevin Kinsey" wrote: > I stand ready for correction, but "Design & Implementation" is mostly > about, well, the design of the system itself ... not an operational > manual but a programmer's guide to OS internals. And, not only that, > but it's about 4.4BSD (1993?), so the exact OS described is quite old*; > however, it's of great value not only as history but as 4.4BSD has > fed code into not only FreeBSD, but NetBSD, OpenBSD, and others. > (see /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree). If that's not of interest > to you I'd not worry about this book --- no offence to Mr. McKusick > et al, of course. Your thinking of "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System" not "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating = System." They are, believe it or not, two different books. Your point is just as valid though as far as it being "not an operational manual but a programmer's guide to OS internals." -- James Tanis Technical Coordinator Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School e: jtanis@mdchs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 16:32:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8554A106567A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5758E8FC16 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6NGTEZ0099753; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:29:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m6NGTEvf099752; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:29:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:29:14 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Chocas, Connie S" Message-ID: <20080723162914.GD99488@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> <82f3feb90807221554u14fad52ep2bb77b486c6f251a@mail.gmail.com> <20080723151149.GB99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C8A0@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C8A0@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 'Jerry McAllister' , darko gavrilovic , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:32:39 -0000 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:18:32AM -0600, Chocas, Connie S wrote: > I could not find anything referencing export controls for FreeBSD. You may > find the following link for Apache Software Foundation products helpful. > This is the type is information that is needed to determine what is required > to legally export software. If FreeBSD has any cryptographic functions > there are export restrictions that need to be considered. > http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/#matrix I don't know about the legal details and I don't have time to read up about it, but I would note that FreeBSD is already exported by default since it is copied by people in many countries and there are mirrors in other countries. It is not explicitly exported by the FreeBSD Foundation, but its movement around the world is quite thorough, done by those who use it. There was a time that the encryption issue made things difficult for some people using FreeBSD, but the Gov standards were changed and the issue quieted down. I don't know if it is solved. ////jerry > > Connie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:12 AM > To: darko gavrilovic > Cc: Chocas, Connie S; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:54:39PM -0400, darko gavrilovic wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/where.html > > I don't see anywhere in that reference that the question is answered > or even alluded to. It does give information on how to obtain a > copy of FreeBSD, but nothing about ECC. > > ////jerry > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Chocas, Connie S wrote: > > > > > I would appreciate you assistance in providing the U.S. Commerce > > > Department Export Control Classification for FreeBSD 6.3. > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Connie Chocas > > > Sandia National Laboratories > > > Classification and Export Control > > > Phone: (505) 844-5982; Fax: (505) 284-4927 > > > Email: cschoca@sandia.gov > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > dg > > > > "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals > > and shorts. > > Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that > > I was wrong. > > You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 20:48:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38822106567F for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61988FC17 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1843405wfg.7 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1XVfQLtDfEA8HC/UzJ1sHoWByjfnWNo+KakssyP+JOE=; b=ntDCSRd+7S2+JPwRWh0/+Uho+oYI9BtqVREH6QFSecncmxDFDvnsiKAE5NRgOdcBVS mMFKTurh480Jq0gf2VA1/2I0x0kmmq8JPCEmMkAJ/0cit882w88r5b6y0+IFTyq1voif EnRv3t7v08DQhgl01MqDQX5vcIIwXl8G8tLN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HR8cxTRw7XOND1QhV48JgBSUTamEVRPQA9PCnC+nr3wzZe1QKrLag6dEdePclKYP9L EZH8SOGY3YHZ+d5oc/tx11bzaFTWeH1iut2SqRKew9/YogYTQkJtab3Rn5IRDjQf3GXv /2y4yA095P3aLEUebWuad0dhKje5A9Lfb+rtE= Received: by 10.143.3.4 with SMTP id f4mr79526wfi.233.1216846099343; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.12 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30fc78250807231348y399eb8e6y9a22d41532a5eddf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:48:19 +0300 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: "Gonzalo Nemmi" In-Reply-To: <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:48:20 -0000 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 15:23:15 Erik Trulsson wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:09:17AM -0400, FreeBSD Questions wrote: >> > This book was printed in August 2004. This predates FBSD 5, and I >> > know there were some significant changes between the 4.x and 5.x >> > branches. We've progressed further and are now into version 7. How >> > well does this book apply to more current versions of FreeBSD, such as >> > version 7? >> >> The 2004 edition of that book does cover FreeBSD 5.2 (says so clearly on >> the cover anyway.) This means that all the major changes between 4.x and >> 5.x should be included in it. >> There have been many changes in FreeBSD since then, of course, but most of >> those changes have been fairly evolutionary in nature, so most of the book >> should still apply reasonably well. > > Actually .. I'd be more than willing to buy an updated version of that book > too .. I _do_ undertand your point of view but to be honest, I'd rather buy a > new copy that prints everything up to _yesterday_ and that has at least some > hints into tomorrow ... > > Yet your point is completly valid one.. and that's why "The Design and > Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" is the only book that I've > been hesitant on buying so far ... Lucas (Absolute FreeBSD, 2nd Edition), > Lavigne (The Best of FreeBSD Basics), Kong (BSD rootkits), Lehey (Download > edition:) ) are all over my desktop as I write this mail, and I consult them > daily ... Farrokhi (Network Administration with FreeBSD) and Hong (Building a > Server with FreeBSD 7) are the ones coming in the next batch ... > > So far .. there are only three books I would have bought but I didn't because > I thought the situation could improve ... those are: "The Design and > Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System", "BSD Hacks" and "The FreeBSD > HandBook"... same reason for all of them .. too old by now (although I think > I'll buy "BSD Hacks" anyways .. I just can't resist buying Lavigne books :( ) > > (let alone the fact that I would rather buy them all through freebsdmall.com > that from amazon .. I think freebsdmall would do good if they would offer the > whole Reed's Media library and the No Starch Press BSD related titles ... i > would surely buy everything from them =P) > > Finally; Editor, Publisher, _Dear_Writer_: if you guys are hesitant .. I think > there's at least two copies of an updated version of "The Design and > Implementation .. " already sold with a lot more on the way :) > > -- > Blessings > Gonzalo Nemmi I couldn't agree more with Gonzalo... i find myself in the exact same position. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 20:58:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA331065673 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from fear.mtmary.edu (rrcs-74-62-87-82.west.biz.rr.com [74.62.87.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734D18FC15 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (war.mtmary.edu [172.16.0.200]) by fear.mtmary.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7D74E0D19 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:58:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48879B59.2040009@mtmary.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:58:01 -0500 From: Peter Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: boot -s hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:58:03 -0000 Hello, I have a FreeBSD install that will hang when trying to enter single user mode. If I use "shutdown now" from the console the system will return "System shutdown time has arrived" as expected but it will just hang there indefinitely. If I use option 4 (enter single user mode) from the boot options menu everything seems to boot properly until: "Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a" and that is where it hangs. In both cases it never returns a cursor or the expected "enter path" statement. In both cases I can ctrl-alt-delete the box once and it synchs disks and nicely reboots. If I go through standard booting it boots just fine. I am a bit stumped by this. Is this some weird raid card issue? I am not sure how to really trouble shoot this. /var/log/messages and /var/log/console do not even show the hung boot as having happened. # uname -a FreeBSD greed.mtmary.edu 7.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Wed Jul 23 14:19:22 CDT 2008 root@greed.mtmary.edu:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/PETE-GENERIC-AMD64 amd64 # dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Wed Jul 23 14:19:22 CDT 2008 root@greed.mtmary.edu:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/PETE-GENERIC-AMD64 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410 @ 2.33GHz (2336.82-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10676 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xce3bd> AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 usable memory = 2133131264 (2034 MB) avail memory = 2058424320 (1963 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 est1: on cpu1 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720 device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 p4tcc1: on cpu1 cpu2: on acpi0 est2: on cpu2 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720 device_attach: est2 attach returned 6 p4tcc2: on cpu2 cpu3: on acpi0 est3: on cpu3 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 720072006000720 device_attach: est3 attach returned 6 p4tcc3: on cpu3 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xca2,0xca3,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 0.0 on pci3 pci4: on pcib4 mfi0: mem 0xb8b00000-0xb8b0ffff,0xb8900000-0xb891ffff irq 18 at device 14.0 on pci4 mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 2.00 mfi0: 1093 (270141940s/0x0020/0) - Shutdown command received from host mfi0: 1094 (4278190080s/0x0020/0) - PCI 0x041000 0x04411 0x048086 0x043501: Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0411/1000/3501/8086) mfi0: 1095 (4278190080s/0x0020/0) - Type 18: Firmware version 1.12.00-0310 mfi0: 1096 (4278190080s/0x0020/0) - PCI 0x041000 0x04411 0x048086 0x043501: Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0411/1000/3501/8086) mfi0: 1097 (4278190080s/0x0020/0) - Type 18: Firmware version 1.12.00-0310 mfi0: 1098 (4278190095s/0x0008/0) - Battery temperature is normal mfi0: 1099 (4278190095s/0x0008/0) - Battery Present mfi0: 1100 (4278190095s/0x0020/0) - Type 18: Board Revision mfi0: 1101 (4278190137s/0x0002/1) - PD 03(e0/s3) err 3: PD 03(e0x00/s3) reset (Type 03) mfi0: 1102 (4278190141s/0x0004/0) - PD 11(e1/s255) event: Enclosure (SES) discovered on PD 0b(c None/p1) mfi0: 1103 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - PD 11(e11/s255) event: Inserted: Encl PD 0b mfi0: 1104 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - Type 29: Inserted: PD 0b(c None/p1) Info: enclPd=0b, scsiType=d, portMap=09, sasAddr=50015074f5c46000,0000000000000000 mfi0: 1105 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - PD 12(e11/s0) event: Inserted: PD 0c(e0x0b/s0) mfi0: 1106 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - Type 29: Inserted: PD 0c(e0x0b/s0) Info: enclPd=0b, scsiType=0, portMap=00, sasAddr=0b221d0a75787d4a,0000000000000000 mfi0: 1107 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - PD 13(e11/s1) event: Inserted: PD 0d(e0x0b/s1) mfi0: 1108 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - Type 29: Inserted: PD 0d(e0x0b/s1) Info: enclPd=0b, scsiType=0, portMap=01, sasAddr=0b221d0a7c886c4e,0000000000000000 mfi0: 1109 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - PD 14(e11/s2) event: Inserted: PD 0e(e0x0b/s2) mfi0: 1110 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - Type 29: Inserted: PD 0e(e0x0b/s2) Info: enclPd=0b, scsiType=0, portMap=02, sasAddr=0b221d0a7695742b,0000000000000000 mfi0: 1111 (4278190141s/0x0042/0) - Type 22: Global Hot Spare created on PD 0e(e0x0b/s2) (global) mfi0: 1112 (4278190141s/0x0002/0) - PD 14(e11/s2) state prior 0 new 2: State change on PD 0e(e0x0b/s2) from UNCONFIGURED_GOOD(0) to HOT SPARE(2) mfi0: 1113 (270142036s/0x0020/0) - Adapter ticks 270142036 elapsed 62s: Time established as 07/23/08 15:27:16; (62 seconds since power on) mfi0: [ITHREAD] pcib5: at device 0.2 on pci3 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci2 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci2 pci7: on pcib7 em0: port 0x2020-0x203f mem 0xb8820000-0xb883ffff,0xb8400000-0xb87fffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci7 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:4f:5c:46 em0: [FILTER] em1: port 0x2000-0x201f mem 0xb8800000-0xb881ffff,0xb8000000-0xb83fffff irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci7 em1: Using MSI interrupt em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:4f:5c:47 em1: [FILTER] pcib8: at device 0.3 on pci1 pci8: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci10: on pcib10 pcib11: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib11 pcib12: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci12: on pcib12 pcib13: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci13: on pcib13 pci0: at device 8.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x3080-0x309f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x3060-0x307f irq 22 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x3040-0x305f irq 23 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x3020-0x303f irq 22 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xb8d00000-0xb8d003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib14: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci14: on pcib14 vgapci0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xb0000000-0xb7ffffff,0xb8c00000-0xb8c0ffff irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci14 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x30a0-0x30af irq 20 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A sio1: [FILTER] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc8fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <8 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec IP Filter: v4.1.28 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled acd0: CDRW at ata0-slave UDMA33 mfid0: on mfi0 mfid0: 304222MB (623046656 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal lapic1: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! lapic2: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! lapic3: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a em0: link state changed to UP Is there some other output that I should post or should be looking at? Any help would be appreciated. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:22:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3AB106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595108FC1D for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id D9AFB4719D7 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:22:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EF4438686E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:22:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Wed Jul 23 23:22:18 2008 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623D63867D3 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:22:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AF63C53300F8; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:15:15 +0200 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:21:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <200807232315562.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: libbz2.so.3 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:22:16 -0000 FreeBSD 6.3-R amavis, spammassassin, clamav installed via ports clamav is logging : Jul 23 16:08:32 mx2 amavis[2626]: (02626-01-2) (!!)run_av (ClamAV-clamscan) FAILED - unexpected exit 1, output="/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libbz2.so.3" not found, required by "clamscan"" All the system has similar is: find / -iname "*libbz2*" /usr/lib/libbz2.a /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2 /usr/lib/libbz2.so /usr/lib/libbz2_p.a Really nothing on Google about libbz2.so.3 Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:24:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7AE1065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derekb@realgeeky.com) Received: from austin.tocun.com (www.tocun.com [66.194.163.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82B98FC19 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derekb@realgeeky.com) Received: from cpe-74-69-80-201.rochester.res.rr.com ([74.69.80.201] helo=[172.16.1.158]) by austin.tocun.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KL9jo-0006Dg-5S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:44:39 -0400 Message-Id: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> From: Derek Belrose To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:41:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 74.69.80.201 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: derekb@realgeeky.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on austin.tocun.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.7-deb X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:02:40 -0800) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on austin.tocun.com) Subject: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:24:34 -0000 Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've inherited a fairly large number of FreeBSD servers. All of them are running 6.3. What is the recommended way of doing port management? Or if there isn't a recommended way of updating ports on 10-15 servers, what do people do? How do you handle port upgrades that deal with custom compile configurations (such as exim with postgresql)? Do you build a port on one system and install it as a package on all the others? I come from a Slackware background, and in the past I would compile the update on a test system then distribute and install to all the other servers. Thanks for your input! Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:43:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE830106567C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8CB8FC12; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4887A5E8.4000200@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:43:04 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Conrad References: <200807232315562.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <200807232315562.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libbz2.so.3 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:07 -0000 Len Conrad wrote: > FreeBSD 6.3-R > > amavis, spammassassin, clamav installed via ports > > clamav is logging : > > Jul 23 16:08:32 mx2 amavis[2626]: (02626-01-2) (!!)run_av > (ClamAV-clamscan) FAILED - unexpected exit 1, > output="/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libbz2.so.3" not found, > required by "clamscan"" > > All the system has similar is: > > find / -iname "*libbz2*" > /usr/lib/libbz2.a > /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2 > /usr/lib/libbz2.so > /usr/lib/libbz2_p.a > > Really nothing on Google about libbz2.so.3 You installed a 7.x/8.x package. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:53:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AF31065677 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@transducertech.com) Received: from akira.mpowercom.net (akira.mpowercom.net [208.57.196.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9058FC14 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@transducertech.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by akira.mpowercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C0DE90196 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] (sjc-static-208.57.189.179.mpowercom.net [208.57.189.179]) by akira.mpowercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C41E900EA for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4887A1D4.2070404@transducertech.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:25:40 -0700 From: Dave Abouav User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: system hangs on boot up if no internet available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:53:23 -0000 I setup a FreeBSD server (v 6.1) for my company as a simple Samba server. It works fine. Except once in awhile our access to the outside internet goes out (due to our ISP), and when it does the FreeBSD server gets hung up, even after rebooted. This happened this morning, so I put a console on it, and rebooted it. I saw that it gets hung trying to start sshd. No error messages are given. If I hit Control-C, to skip loading sshd, then the rest of the boot-up goes normally and people can again access the server. Any ideas how I can avoid this problem? I'd rather not skip the loading of sshd. I don't have any special programs on the server that contact the outside world. Thanks, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:55:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D5C1065673 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout016.mac.com (asmtpout016.mac.com [17.148.16.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D9F8FC08 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp016.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4H00BP0BKX7L00@asmtp016.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: cswiger@mac.com Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Dave Abouav In-reply-to: <4887A1D4.2070404@transducertech.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:55:45 -0700 References: <4887A1D4.2070404@transducertech.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on boot up if no internet available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:55:54 -0000 On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Dave Abouav wrote: > I setup a FreeBSD server (v 6.1) for my company as a simple Samba > server. It works fine. Except once in awhile our access to the > outside internet goes out (due to our ISP), and when it does the > FreeBSD server gets hung up, even after rebooted. This happened this > morning, so I put a console on it, and rebooted it. I saw that it > gets hung trying to start sshd. No error messages are given. If I > hit Control-C, to skip loading sshd, then the rest of the boot-up > goes normally and people can again access the server. Any ideas how > I can avoid this problem? I'd rather not skip the loading of sshd. I > don't have any special programs on the server that contact the > outside world. It's probably doing something which needs a DNS lookup. Do you have a subnet-local nameserver available, or does simply waiting for 2 minutes or so for a timeout do the trick? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 21:59:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3FA1065675 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3908FC15 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NLxSNN087665; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:59:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 91EA9BA98; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:59:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:59:17 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Derek Belrose Message-ID: <20080723215917.GA64673@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:31 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:41:46AM -0400, Derek Belrose wrote: > What is the recommended way of doing port management?=20 There doesn't seem to be a single standard way of doing this. There are several things you could do, assuming that all servers use identically configured software. Probably the least effort would be to update and test the ports one server, then use rsync to push /usr/local from that server to all others. This is efficient because you only have to build stuff once, an can then easily push it to other machines. Alternatively you could use one server to build packages which are then stored on a shared filesystem to install on all others, but that sounds like more work to me. Or you could mount /usr/local from a single NFS server on all others, keeping them automatically in sync but that might strain the NFS server and make it a single point of failure which is undesirable. Maybe it would be better to use the Coda filesystem in this case.=20 I'd favor the rsync approach, because it keeps data and programs locally accessible on each machine while making in easy and efficient to syncronize from a test machine to others. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiHqbUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWTeQCfevyDFpdYgyLPDl0MCbj+Rw56 cwgAoK27tk8GpVKp2uCZrZsMDmnesIP1 =GWmz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 22:04:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B461065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@transducertech.com) Received: from sandrock.mpowercom.net (sandrock.mpowercom.net [208.57.196.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82BF8FC1C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@transducertech.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sandrock.mpowercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE244403E4; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] (sjc-static-208.57.189.179.mpowercom.net [208.57.189.179]) by sandrock.mpowercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB27044035F; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4887AADF.5080102@transducertech.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:15 -0700 From: Dave Abouav User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4887A1D4.2070404@transducertech.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on boot up if no internet available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:04:14 -0000 Our DNS goes through our ISP. The IP addresses of their DNS servers are hard-coded into the server's /etc/rc.conf file. No amount of waiting seems to help. It always just hangs trying to load sshd. Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Dave Abouav wrote: >> I setup a FreeBSD server (v 6.1) for my company as a simple Samba >> server. It works fine. Except once in awhile our access to the >> outside internet goes out (due to our ISP), and when it does the >> FreeBSD server gets hung up, even after rebooted. This happened this >> morning, so I put a console on it, and rebooted it. I saw that it >> gets hung trying to start sshd. No error messages are given. If I hit >> Control-C, to skip loading sshd, then the rest of the boot-up goes >> normally and people can again access the server. Any ideas how I can >> avoid this problem? I'd rather not skip the loading of sshd. I don't >> have any special programs on the server that contact the outside world. > > It's probably doing something which needs a DNS lookup. Do you have a > subnet-local nameserver available, or does simply waiting for 2 > minutes or so for a timeout do the trick? > -- Dave Abouav Product Manager & Software Engineer KWJ Engineering, Transducer Technology Division Phone: (510) 791-0951 Fax: (510) 794-4330 Email: dave@transducertech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 22:07:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0961065671 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18B28FC1F for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (cpe-24-161-6-139.hvc.res.rr.com [24.161.6.139]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6NM74k4065022; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NM6vnn085273; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:06:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id m6NM6vOT085271; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:06:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200807232206.m6NM6vOT085271@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: rsmith@xs4all.nl (Roland Smith) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:06:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20080723215917.GA64673@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Derek Belrose , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:07:16 -0000 > > Or you could mount /usr/local from a single NFS server on all others, > keeping them automatically in sync but that might strain the NFS server > and make it a single point of failure which is undesirable. Maybe it > would be better to use the Coda filesystem in this case.=20 > In theory this sounded great when I first did it, but now, not so great. 1) I have to keep all the machines on the same OS release. 2) Taking down or a failure of the NFS server pulls EVERY other system with it. 3) Working with lockd/statd can be problematic at times. 4) NFS on FreeBSD varies (I'M TOLD) between versions as to effectiveness, issues, etc. 5) I've run into issues where some programs are just NOT happy running over NFS (hylafax for me for example. POTENTIALLY a locking issue, but running a locking tester shows everything fine, but it just for the life of it won't work over NFS for me atleast). Since this is a "personal" system, I put up with it. When I get the time/energy I'm going to break all the systems apart. Tuc/TBOH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 22:13:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561571065677 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twhoffma@math.uio.no) Received: from mail-out1.uio.no (mail-out1.uio.no [129.240.10.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E07C8FC19 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twhoffma@math.uio.no) Received: from mail-mx3.uio.no ([129.240.10.44]) by mail-out1.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KLmEz-0003Gw-O9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:21 +0200 Received: from smtp.uio.no ([129.240.10.9] helo=mail-mx3.uio.no) by mail-mx3.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLmEz-0003pR-Kr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:21 +0200 Received: from w3prod-wm01.uio.no ([129.240.4.214] helo=webmail.uio.no) by mail-mx3.uio.no with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLmEz-0003pN-IH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:21 +0200 Received: from 80.202.85.78 (SquirrelMail authenticated user twhoffma) by webmail.uio.no with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48764.80.202.85.78.1216849881.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:21 +0200 (CEST) From: "Torgeir Hoffmann" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-UiO-Resend: resent X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 4F7EA510B3386F0B55F7BB6F81B69823DC50CEEB X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 129.240.10.9 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 200 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 261 total 9272079 max/h 8345 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Subject: Installing jdk on 7-Release: Has known vulnerabilities from 2005? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: twhoffma@student.matnat.uio.no List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:13:15 -0000 Hi, when I try to install linux-sun-jdk16 from ports I get: ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.07 has known vulnerabilities: => jdk -- jar directory traversal vulnerability. Reference: => Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 This refers to a vulnerability from 2005 (!). I get the same thing with the 1.5 port. I desperately want to avoid building the native version due to the fact that I have a not that sporty laptop, and the packages from the freebsd foundation is not available yet. I have the latest portsnap port snapshot. Hope somebody can help me. Is there any other way I can get the jdk without building it? Hope for quick reply, Torgeir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 22:25:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409B4106566C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E3F8FC17; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4887AFD4.9000106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:25:24 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: twhoffma@student.matnat.uio.no References: <48764.80.202.85.78.1216849881.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> In-Reply-To: <48764.80.202.85.78.1216849881.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing jdk on 7-Release: Has known vulnerabilities from 2005? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:26 -0000 Torgeir Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > when I try to install linux-sun-jdk16 from ports I get: > > ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.07 has known vulnerabilities: > => jdk -- jar directory traversal vulnerability. > Reference: > > => Please update your ports tree and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > This refers to a vulnerability from 2005 (!). I get the same thing with > the 1.5 port. > I desperately want to avoid building the native version due to the fact > that I have a not that sporty laptop, and the packages from the freebsd > foundation is not available yet. > > I have the latest portsnap port snapshot. Update your portaudit database. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 22:32:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3141065670 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAB98FC1B for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NMW1LE043902; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:32:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id EGKTU0Y1xi6H; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NMVtmG043898; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:31:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4887B155.5020105@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:31:49 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Abouav References: <4887A1D4.2070404@transducertech.com> <4887AADF.5080102@transducertech.com> In-Reply-To: <4887AADF.5080102@transducertech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on boot up if no internet available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:03 -0000 Dave Abouav wrote: > Our DNS goes through our ISP. The IP addresses of their DNS servers are > hard-coded into the server's /etc/rc.conf file. No amount of waiting > seems to help. It always just hangs trying to load sshd. > > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Dave Abouav wrote: >>> I setup a FreeBSD server (v 6.1) for my company as a simple Samba >>> server. It works fine. Except once in awhile our access to the >>> outside internet goes out (due to our ISP), and when it does the >>> FreeBSD server gets hung up, even after rebooted. This happened this >>> morning, so I put a console on it, and rebooted it. I saw that it >>> gets hung trying to start sshd. No error messages are given. If I hit >>> Control-C, to skip loading sshd, then the rest of the boot-up goes >>> normally and people can again access the server. Any ideas how I can >>> avoid this problem? I'd rather not skip the loading of sshd. I don't >>> have any special programs on the server that contact the outside world. >> >> It's probably doing something which needs a DNS lookup. Do you have a >> subnet-local nameserver available, or does simply waiting for 2 >> minutes or so for a timeout do the trick? >> > Workaround, perhaps: set "UseDNS no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and try again? Perhaps better to run named or something locally, if that helps, but doing this would at least test Chuck's theory (which seems about correct to me, though why it *never* goes on I don't know). Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 23 22:32:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9015B1065670 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103348FC0C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6NMWZYf063637; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:32:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 15F0CBA83; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:32:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:32:35 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Dave Abouav Message-ID: <20080723223235.GA65902@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4887A1D4.2070404@transducertech.com> <4887AADF.5080102@transducertech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4887AADF.5080102@transducertech.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system hangs on boot up if no internet available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:32:39 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 03:04:15PM -0700, Dave Abouav wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Jul 23, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Dave Abouav wrote: > >> I setup a FreeBSD server (v 6.1) for my company as a simple Samba=20 > >> server. It works fine. Except once in awhile our access to the=20 > >> outside internet goes out (due to our ISP), and when it does the=20 > >> FreeBSD server gets hung up, even after rebooted. What does hung up mean in the case that it's not rebooted?=20 > >> This happened this=20 > >> morning, so I put a console on it, and rebooted it. I saw that it=20 > >> gets hung trying to start sshd. No error messages are given. If I hit= =20 > >> Control-C, to skip loading sshd, then the rest of the boot-up goes=20 > >> normally and people can again access the server. Any ideas how I can= =20 > >> avoid this problem? I'd rather not skip the loading of sshd. I don't= =20 > >> have any special programs on the server that contact the outside world. > > > > It's probably doing something which needs a DNS lookup. Do you have a= =20 > > subnet-local nameserver available, or does simply waiting for 2=20 > > minutes or so for a timeout do the trick? > > [please don't top-post!] > Our DNS goes through our ISP. The IP addresses of their DNS servers are= =20 > hard-coded into the server's /etc/rc.conf file. No amount of waiting=20 > seems to help. It always just hangs trying to load sshd. First, try starting sshd in test mode (-t) to see if your config and keys are OK.=20 Then, with the outside connection down, try starting sshd with the -d and -e options (and other options that you might have specified in /etc/rc.conf) to see where it goes wrong. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiHsYMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW7AACeNC0Y1E7WYVzzQ2n+o6iY7QeC lB8AniQuhyWw+hOT2dktF7JuhhCXRvK6 =IjqP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 00:02:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D951065677 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D388FC17 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m6O02Wij096983; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:02:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gonzalo Nemmi" , Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:03:36 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200807230501.58956.gnemmi@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:02:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gonzalo Nemmi > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:02 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? > > > On Wednesday 23 July 2008 03:47:04 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > This seems to be a common misperception about ports. Ports > > > aren't something > > > magical. They do exactly what you would do from the commandline (i.e. > > > ./configure, make, make install), except they come with > several bonuses. > > > > > > 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to > > > make it compile > > > and install properly on FreeBSD. 2) The port maintainer has > > > already supplied > > > patches that allow the software to build correctly on FreeBSD. > > > 3) All the > > > dependencies are already taken care of. 4) Upgrading is > quite simple and > > > straightforward. 5) The software is now > > > architechture-independent (in most > > > cases), meaning you can move from Intel to AMD (for example) > > > without having to > > > worry that the software will no longer build and you'll have to > > > start from > > > scratch again. > > > > > > For example, I decided today that I wanted to try out some > software named > > > "arguseye". So I downloaded and untarred the program. I > looked at the > > > dependencies. It requires a number of perl modules, some of > > > which are not in > > > ports. So, I just created three new perl ports to satisfy those > > > dependencies > > > and submitted them this afternoon. > > > > > > Once those are accepted into the tree, I'll create the arguseye > > > port and submit > > > it as well. Then, when someone else wants to install arguseye, > > > all they will > > > have to do is type "make install clean" in the port directory and > > > everything > > > that they need will be installed for them. > > > > > > Unless you're a glutton for punishment, why would you do all that > > > yourself? > > > > Because maybe you don't care for the porter's choice of defaults. > > > > Many programs come with hard-coded defaults that are modified > > in a config file. For example cistron-radius. Another example > > is the dspam port. The porter for that insisted on using a > > default of apache vhost. However the default apache port does > > not activate this. I don't give a rat's ass that vhost is > > supposedly more secure. Another one that always pisses me off > > is the porter's choice in building uw-imap to turn off plaintext > > passwords. And the default for pine is also to turn off > > plaintext support. > > > > Another problem is that not all porters are good about maintaining > > their ports. For example icradius. Someone spent a lot of time > > creating the port for that. Then just let it die. Another is > > the open source ingres database. Julian ported that one then > > lost interest, it died sometime around FBSD 4.X > > > > Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the > > original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the > > author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost > > interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for > > the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project > > and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from > > the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both disappeared. > > Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar issue. > > > > The fundamental achillies heel of the ports system is it makes > > the assumption that every package in the ports system is popular > > and will be supported for the indefinite future by the original > > package developer. The ports system counts on this insofar that > > it assumes that if the original porter loses interest and stops > > tracking the master site, that someone else will step in and > > assume responsibility for maintaining the port. > > > > The reality is that in every release of FreeBSD, some ports go > > wanting for sponsors, and nobody steps forward and so when the > > port stops building, the FreeBSD maintainers simply cut it out > > of the ports tree, plus anything dependent on it. > > > > This assumption is fine for people running vanilla apache or > > whatever systems, which is most people. But, if your doing > > anything that isn't plain-jane middle of the road, you better > > assume that if your using a series of ports, to make detailed > > notes, and save the ports, and save the patches, and save > > the distfiles. You may need to see how they did it in an > > older FreeBSD system when a new version of FreeBSD comes out > > that is missing one or more of the ports you depend on. > > > > Ultimately, ports isn't any different than most other things. > > When it's properly executed it's great. But proper execution > > of the entire thing depends on every porter who has an active > > port in the system doing the right thing, and there's so many of > > them that statistically, some of them are going to be flakes. > > > > Ultimately, if your going to be a server admin, you need to > > know how to build your applications without ports. > > > > It's no different than, for example, I know how to pour and > > form concrete, I know how to plumb pipes. But if I needed > > concrete poured, or pipes plumbed, I would call a contractor > > and a plumber, and because I know how to do these things I > > would be able to keep an eye on what the people I hired > > were doing and know if they were doing what they were supposed > > to be doing, or if they were incompetents. > > > > The folks that depend utterly on ports and have no notion of > > how to build it manually, are like the people who don't know > > how to pour concrete or plumb pipes, and who hire a mason and > > a plumber anyway. They think they are having their concrete > > and pipes done, but in reality they have no clue if the > > work is really being done properly or not. And, years later > > that concrete may be cracked and the pipes leaking, and > > they have no clue if it was due to crap work or something else. > > > > Ted > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Ted, with all due respect, you do have pointed out some valid > points .. yet, > there is a mailig list for that matter... > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > you seem to be pretty knowledgable about certain aspects that > others don't > even came across simply because we don't run into those problems > because we > don't need or use a given piece of software ... > Your taking quite a leap to be speaking for "we" on this list, are you quite sure that everyone else does not run into these problems? ;-) What I was speaking about is a structural issue that is not a problem with ports per-se, it is a problem with how ports are USED. Ports is a great tool, I can't speak highly enough of it. However like ALL tools, if not used properly it will not work very well It does not help to jump on the ports mailing list and bitch about how people use the tool. The folks that built ports cannot control if a porter loses interest in his port and nobody else picks it up. They cannot write a technical fix for this, it is a human problem. However that human, not software, problem will affect YOU if you happen to be using that port, just as sure as a technical software build problem in the port manager would. Like all things in life it is fine as long as you understand what your doing and all the implications of using a prewritten set of instructions. But there is more to the eye than just CD /usr/ports/whatever and typing make install, and folks on this list that just say that is all there is to it are doing a disservice to a newbie. > It's my experience ( and of course, YMMV ...) that por > maintainers do answer > e-mails and fix stuff when asked to do so .. It happened to me at least :) > Most do but not all. As I said there is always a list of ports in every BSD release that the mangers drop as a result of the port maintainer not responding to e-mails to fix a build. > Yet, some (maybe even most) of your observations still stand true ... > > Whoever .. as it has been criteriously pointed out by Paul Schmehl: > > "There are certainly special cases where compiling from source is > preferable, especially if you have a highly customized installation, but > those are the exceptions rather than the rule." > > And I do agree with that statement ... to put it simple: > exceptions can never > be taken as a basis for general rule ... > Which is why I said that "this assumption is fine for people running vanilla apache or whatever systems, which is most people." > Still, should you be kind enough .. I'd like to invite you to post those > issues on freebsd-ports for all of us to know about them and then be in a > position to discuss those issues in due time .. because evetually > ... those > will bite some of us sooner or later ... > Any experienced FreeBSD porter already knows about this. And there is no fix other than to attempt to force people to take over ports that are abandonded, which wouldn't work and is certainly contrary to the FreeBSD spirit. Essentially this is a problem that affects ANY open source package including Linux, so it's not really on topic in a narrow group like ports. It's just something to be aware of when using ports, or any OSS, just like you have to be aware of the Microsoft Product Lifecycle if you use Windows. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 00:57:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC771065672 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twhoffma@math.uio.no) Received: from mail-out1.uio.no (mail-out1.uio.no [129.240.10.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFA68FC12 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twhoffma@math.uio.no) Received: from mail-mx3.uio.no ([129.240.10.44]) by mail-out1.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KLp8l-0001Zw-3I; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:07 +0200 Received: from smtp.uio.no ([129.240.10.9] helo=mail-mx3.uio.no) by mail-mx3.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLp8g-0008Vq-If; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:07 +0200 Received: from w3prod-wm01.uio.no ([129.240.4.214] helo=webmail.uio.no) by mail-mx3.uio.no with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLp8g-0008Ve-G2; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:02 +0200 Received: from 80.202.85.78 (SquirrelMail authenticated user twhoffma) by webmail.uio.no with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49448.80.202.85.78.1216861022.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> In-Reply-To: <4887AFD4.9000106@FreeBSD.org> References: <48764.80.202.85.78.1216849881.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> <4887AFD4.9000106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:57:02 +0200 (CEST) From: "Torgeir Hoffmann" To: "Kris Kennaway" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-UiO-Resend: resent X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: C1DA08709CE89274C1EFFD6C8A2D20EA6CC868A1 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 129.240.10.9 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 200 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 111 total 9272575 max/h 8345 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing jdk on 7-Release: Has known vulnerabilities from 2005? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: twhoffma@student.matnat.uio.no List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:57:08 -0000 Hi again! >> when I try to install linux-sun-jdk16 from ports I get: >> >> ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.07 has known vulnerabilities: >> => jdk -- jar directory traversal vulnerability. >> Reference: >> >> => Please update your ports tree and try again. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> This refers to a vulnerability from 2005 (!). I get the same thing with >> the 1.5 port. >> I desperately want to avoid building the native version due to the fact >> that I have a not that sporty laptop, and the packages from the freebsd >> foundation is not available yet. >> >> I have the latest portsnap port snapshot. > > Update your portaudit database. I did that. portaudit -Fda Still, same thing. Thought this was very strange as well. Anything else that I should have done? (It's probably right in front of me!) Many thanks, Torgeir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 01:07:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383F81065676 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01868FC17; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4887D5E1.9080903@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:07:45 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: twhoffma@student.matnat.uio.no References: <48764.80.202.85.78.1216849881.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> <4887AFD4.9000106@FreeBSD.org> <49448.80.202.85.78.1216861022.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> In-Reply-To: <49448.80.202.85.78.1216861022.squirrel@webmail.uio.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing jdk on 7-Release: Has known vulnerabilities from 2005? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:07:47 -0000 Torgeir Hoffmann wrote: > Hi again! > >>> when I try to install linux-sun-jdk16 from ports I get: >>> >>> ===> linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.07 has known vulnerabilities: >>> => jdk -- jar directory traversal vulnerability. >>> Reference: >>> >>> => Please update your ports tree and try again. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> This refers to a vulnerability from 2005 (!). I get the same thing with >>> the 1.5 port. >>> I desperately want to avoid building the native version due to the fact >>> that I have a not that sporty laptop, and the packages from the freebsd >>> foundation is not available yet. >>> >>> I have the latest portsnap port snapshot. >> Update your portaudit database. > > I did that. > > portaudit -Fda > > Still, same thing. Thought this was very strange as well. > > Anything else that I should have done? (It's probably right in front of me!) Talk to the port maintainer if you think the vulnerability no longer exists, or build with DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES if you choose to override the warning. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 01:33:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF7F1065673 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9FD8FC2A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so15545516agc.3 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:33:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cA7T5Ejz9Yx6A9ErR0dbD694AvekBTsSl6pPbGklTTY=; b=XHXaBIP/mK2L4anjffZorOQd9Uc1Jk7qXoeGENejKGg3rxCYNhER+k5V/wjYsLNdty +NWsBEx39pyJLBKyLVgmcXL1fIAwoxBT4SaSeZy4TtOgg8U2JhY5Vs9dxd1uQMAwZFxX +PWA3H3XWJRKKbdvHZlEYZLP0Y/8KNHiF9XaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=k/FM7d5eMHzCe8MMcDWJeCqa5nSu0oi5wLGaETkQC9h5+lgdIGjLUk5WFElbVf6+zR qUB2U5q154+Jzb2y/mHx5F3zFS2d79UODt/7GjnrGkkFRrXtxStWqtvjwXHvs/XByKzt 5KYJeQ4nA1o/vp2AtI0ZRfQCCh8M8pyjY4tRY= Received: by 10.101.1.12 with SMTP id d12mr725050ani.31.1216863180955; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.201.7 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f3feb90807231833k3efedd54l28b952763d0e21cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:33:00 -0400 From: darko To: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" In-Reply-To: <200807232206.m6NM6vOT085271@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080723215917.GA64673@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200807232206.m6NM6vOT085271@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Roland Smith , Derek Belrose , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:33:02 -0000 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > 2) Taking down or a failure of the NFS server pulls EVERY > other system with it. ..just thinking out loud here...but.. what if you had 2 identical NFS/rsync servers and used them together in a standby/failover method. i.e. when you have to bring down one NFS/rsync server, you direct all clients to the other and vice versa. > > 3) Working with lockd/statd can be problematic at times. > 4) NFS on FreeBSD varies (I'M TOLD) between versions as to > effectiveness, issues, etc. > 5) I've run into issues where some programs are just NOT > happy running over NFS (hylafax for me for example. POTENTIALLY a locking > issue, but running a locking tester shows everything fine, but it > just for the life of it won't work over NFS for me atleast). > > Since this is a "personal" system, I put up with it. When > I get the time/energy I'm going to break all the systems apart. > > Tuc/TBOH > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, dg "..but the more you use clever tricks, the less support you'll get ..." -- M.W.Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 01:41:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15921065672 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDD38FC12 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 6AC5E4719EF for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 08F013868FB for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:41:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Thu Jul 24 03:41:14 2008 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D903868B9 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:41:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AC17D71900F8; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:34:15 +0200 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:29:08 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <4887A5E8.4000200@FreeBSD.org> References: <200807232315562.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> <4887A5E8.4000200@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20080724033478.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: libbz2.so.3 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:41:15 -0000 >>FreeBSD 6.3-R >>amavis, spammassassin, clamav installed via ports >>clamav is logging : >>Jul 23 16:08:32 mx2 amavis[2626]: (02626-01-2) (!!)run_av >>(ClamAV-clamscan) FAILED - unexpected exit 1, >>output="/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libbz2.so.3" not >>found, required by "clamscan"" >>All the system has similar is: >>find / -iname "*libbz2*" >>/usr/lib/libbz2.a >>/usr/lib/libbz2.so.2 >>/usr/lib/libbz2.so >>/usr/lib/libbz2_p.a >>Really nothing on Google about libbz2.so.3 > >You installed a 7.x/8.x package. ok, thanks. I see where that did happen, grabbed the wrong one from freshports. deleted clamav pkg added the "6" clamav. Now get a different error: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamav-freshclam start Starting clamav_freshclam. /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.7" not found, required by "libgmp.so.7" Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 03:59:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B86B106566B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036AB8FC14 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1933877wfg.7 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/UP/oPzuZoS9WVldyxP2SVfUwSPj2PzXoYBNX/ytl38=; b=WaXfJ2REPqUaNCCtfCSNr4xO20AqzdAmhQ5R67bzT8CE2NYXgc6ovN5kg+EVIEA2dt usKOMKYiVDqbFMr5xHqXBwEf9PF9UrW0UY9tynGauelN59F6bzEDUUtP1ahrPPycxKDp qmGys5nJ/KUwAn+zBU2DReRlqafjubXRHqr8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vnRsZrTbB+QfG3L/Z/zPtLzhlkEnvNzbWGcNNJku9w64UZpOgCqm3g9q1Ioh+Rhq6P suDme//5v6RYGsE2JnN7CzNcrNQB5tR0QSUZjP6HMcggNaXj/GBeQR+pfqtn/kUUYtL3 OgVuJBKlPk9mQd9mdpC3asmjG7nY/g/0vu3wc= Received: by 10.142.245.6 with SMTP id s6mr243737wfh.157.1216871965518; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim-judds-mac-mini.local ( [76.113.34.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm7534672wfi.11.2008.07.23.20.59.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4887FE14.9030503@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:16 -0600 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> In-Reply-To: <20080720213845.GA13106@remdog.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can't ping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:59:26 -0000 Rem P Roberti wrote: > Can someone tell what is going on here. All of a sudden I can't ping. > When I try a get this message: > > ping: sendto: Permission denied > > All internet functions seem to be working fine...just can't ping. > > Rem > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > pinging from a jail? check your sysctls. raw ips something or other. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 04:22:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C9F106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDCF8FC0C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3262011rvf.43 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:22:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jw7P0ZiCwe5aiPekpvid01eiF99hBY0vBzASPlAVKZY=; b=bg43SsthVKFvfmHALp5mHFHF+FOGLPQHpLdrNzIviGzV2Xbqg4XxL9yiuGNEqaHA1u zibAWqK+/KZnqJRi2p1p/bTaqoAXLZD5IC4t9KTL5amLjVUyAMkfAe8sgyILSChd6DDU /zD2s7cb8tNyG8KXkqBAPuiLUbjk+A8jRgQS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=icRzvUje6lCGIHaXLxYE/cxOHaDWguc6BUVeB0vIG77Notao9nTvlqin0rizaGG5CD z1+hp3Ee5EJblsV4YcamHzlZnd1Ep3jlAuGD/Y22g1vzHXn1u16sw6WScPQjv6nqpGJb f6nRblFPeZpXEJJSTG0uCP1O5TEPD3fRARqu8= Received: by 10.141.204.20 with SMTP id g20mr228004rvq.230.1216872950733; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim-judds-mac-mini.local ( [76.113.34.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm13218075rvb.4.2008.07.23.21.15.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <488801F5.7040804@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:15:49 -0600 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us References: <3357.204.184.27.217.1216731492.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <3357.204.184.27.217.1216731492.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba and LDAP install on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:22:46 -0000 sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us wrote: > Here is my problem. I installed the OpenLdap 2.4.10 server and SASL > client. I then went to install the Samba 3.0.30 Port and it tells me that > it needs to install OpenLDAP client 2.3.42, but the 2.4.10 is in the same > place and I need to deinstall it. I deinstall 2.4.10 and samba will > install, but now openldap will not run because it has missing files. I > went to reinstall the 2.4.10 SASL client, but it tells me that the > openldap 2.3.42 needs to be removed. > > If I go to remove the 2.3.42 openldap client, it tells me that samba > 3.0.30 relies on it. I am kind of stuck here. Does samba 3.0.30 not work > with openldap 2.4? Do I have to have openldap 2.3? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > as I had also written in a previous mail just moments ago earlier in the queue ---- A 2.4.x database already established (as soon as 2.4 was run) may not be compatible with 2.3.x (not verified). the missing rc.conf values to start 2.3? and OpenLDAP won't log to ANYTHING until configured to do so. I'm going from memory on this last peice ------ in slapd.conf, insert a "loglevel 256" statement anywhere before the database definitions in /etc/syslog.conf define before the middle chunk of comments (seems it's picky) you need to add EITHER (which I think is the latter of these two): slapd.* /var/log/slapd.log -OR- local4.* /var/log/slapd.log touching (creating) /var/log/slapd.log to create the file, restarting syslogd restart slapd That should start logging. Now why it's not any easier to setup, I don't know. HTH. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 04:32:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA63D1065672 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED5C8FC19 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3265146rvf.43 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:32:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SaUKdJ5s2RFS/+OE2Rr0iIjr41IdiXp87J9PMi4wV8k=; b=BFV/kyzlKGj/Y36BTKCKe6hrHGobKeFJ4rwLB+fOT8yGOD1LZOktbUzKZlvPxqs7xd Yd+6TU8gjfiHUXoVZeBRHSERWvkGdkHX/I2XIc0ex+nLD68WVdBL08T3LE1D9unhF4HF CgsvkRbKXUGkYtwAS31hNl6bM58PPZa+Ga4N0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z9/4CRz3UmYFlitT7gWYVfmta9UloquCr4RsBu2oxmMboo32m9fgIOG2HD9pIKuGd3 CE6R9flZUXsBfCk8yyy7D1lIu79rdpDyyW3KZUB71Rz/hbWKkuVQ4wKo/u3R19kLvh9A IBjcU0Zf17SPKZcbLfP4I+oGQuoxX5ciw7Dio= Received: by 10.141.177.10 with SMTP id e10mr240164rvp.72.1216872387650; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim-judds-mac-mini.local ( [76.113.34.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm12809796rvf.1.2008.07.23.21.06.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4887FFC1.3030001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:06:25 -0600 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us References: In-Reply-To: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> In-Reply-To: <2841.204.184.27.217.1216664835.squirrel@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, openldap-software@OpenLDAP.org Subject: Re: Slapd not starting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:32:13 -0000 sgmayo@mail.bloomfield.k12.mo.us wrote: > I was having some troubles with the samba install telling me that openldap > 2.3.42 and 2.4.10 would conflict. I had installed openldap 2.4.10 server > and I guess that was the problem. It seemed to start up just fine, but > since I could not get samba to install and it kept giving me the error > that the clients would conflict, I decided just to uninstall 2.4.10 and > install the 2.3.42. > > Now when I try to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd start, it just seems to sit > there and then goes back to the prompt. > > I checked the port with sockstat -4 -p 389 and it is not running. I don't > see anything in the /var/log/messages about it so I am not sure what is > going on. > > I am confused why 2.4.1 seemd to run fine, but 2.3.42 does not even though > the config files are the same. Thanks for any info. > > > > Here is my /usr/local/etc/openldap/ldap.conf > > SIZELIMIT 200 > HOST 127.0.0.1 > URI ldap://server.bloomfield.k12.mo.us > ssl start_tls > tls_cacert /etc/ssl/cacert.crt > > and here is my /usr/local/etc/openldap/slapd.conf > > include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/core.schema > include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/cosine.schema > include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/nis.schema > include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/inetorgperson.schema > include /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema/samba.schema > > pidfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.pid > argsfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.args > logfile /var/log/slapd.log > loglevel -1 > sizelimit -1 > > modulepath /usr/local/libexec/openldap > moduleload back_bdb > > security ssf=128 > TLSCertificateFile /etc/ssl/cert.crt > TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/ssl/cert.key > TLSCACertificateFile /etc/ssl/cacert.crt > > database bdb > suffix "dc=server,dc=bloomfield.k12.mo.us" > rootdn "cn=Manager,dc=server,dc=bloomfield.k12.mo.us" > > rootpw ####### > > directory /var/db/openldap-data > > index objectClass eq > index cn,sn,uid,displayName pres,sub,eq > index uidNumber,gidNumber eq > index sambaSID eq > index sambaPrimaryGroupSID eq > index sambaDomainName eq > index memberUID eq > index default > > A 2.4.x database already established (as soon as 2.4 was run) may not be compatible with 2.3.x (not verified). the missing rc.conf values to start 2.3? and OpenLDAP won't log to ANYTHING until configured to do so. I'm going from memory on this last peice ------ in slapd.conf, insert a "loglevel 256" statement anywhere before the database definitions in /etc/syslog.conf define before the middle chunk of comments (seems it's picky) you need to add EITHER (which I think is the latter of these two): slapd.* /var/log/slapd.log -OR- local4.* /var/log/slapd.log touching (creating) /var/log/slapd.log to create the file, restarting syslogd restart slapd That should start logging. Now why it's not any easier to setup, I don't know. HTH. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 05:11:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAE51065671 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA828FC12 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EADysh0hR9SZh/2dsb2JhbACBWq9s Received: from 97.38-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.245.38.97]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2008 07:11:48 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:07:23 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080724050723.GA46852@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: portupgrade policykit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:11:50 -0000 Hi, Hope I didn't do something stupid here.... Tried to 'portupgrade -R policykit' but it came back with an error. So I deinstalled it and now I'm trying to reinstall it, but it fails with the following error. R=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\""/var"\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat -Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c -o kit-string.lo kit-string.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src -DPACKAGE_LIBEXEC_DIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share\" -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\"/var\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat -Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c kit-string.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/kit-string.o kit-string.c:141: error: redefinition of 'strndup' kit-string.c:119: error: previous definition of 'strndup' was here gmake[3]: *** [kit-string.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/src/kit' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit. Also tried 'make distclean' and a new 'make install clean', but it keeps on failing. I hope that in case I need to reboot, it won't crash my system. But I'll postpone my reboot as long as possible. Maybe I can reinstall it with your advice. Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 05:27:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D771065675 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E428FC1D for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=aWmXtVYyW72UaUPcXv+5TqiUIik80XeN159JNSRQ+zL52/+j+KUpxZLYVdiBijLk; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [208.127.156.67] (helo=wednesday) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLt0T-0002Bp-0S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:04:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: "jdow" To: References: <575638.96524.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:04:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120fcd197b5a9f5f43f202f21274fa5ad02547562a158a8cca8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 208.127.156.67 Subject: Re: Spamassassin very slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:27:43 -0000 That says you are driving spamd into swapping. The two canonical reasons for SpamAssassin to be really slow are dead BL sites or overrunning memory and going into heavy swapping. You made a change to reduce the amount of swapping. Hence you probably have too many children at any one time. Modify your minimum and maximum number of children. For best results you MAY want only one child per processor you can spare from other work. Regardless, use "top" to see when you go into swapping with the spamd load. When you do, back off the number of children running at any given time. Check rule sets you are using with RDJ. Some of them require incredible amounts of memory to run. I run enough rules to pull down about 60 megabytes of memory. There are some rule sets that can go over 100 megabytes on the SARE site (SpamAssassin Rules Emporium). 40 children at 100 megabytes each could use a "lot of machine". {^_-} You might consider investigating the spamassassin users list at apache.org. You can find it via the SpamAssassin home page, http://www.spamassassin.org/ {^_^} Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "lyd mc" Sent: Tuesday, 2008, July 22 23:31 > Hi James, > > I remove spamc on .procmailrc and I can see lots of improvements! > > Thanx, > > alyd > > --- On Wed, 7/23/08, James Tanis wrote: > From: James Tanis > To: alydiomc@yahoo.com > > "lyd mc" wrote: >> >> What causes spamassassin to slow? >> >> Here is my config: >> >> snippet from sendmail.mc >> .. .. >> >> I have .procmailrc in every home directory of my mail users and it goes > like >> this: > > So if I'm understanding you correctly.. your calling spamc from a sendmail > milter *and* .procmailrc. That's pretty redundant and would definately > slow > you down. Choose one based on your needs. > >> >> I also have RulesDuJour installed and spammassassin --lint does complain > about >> it. >> > > Extra rules can slow you down regardless of syntax, but most computers > created this decade can handle RulesDuJour fine. Personally I think your > main problem is that your effectively spam checking every message twice. > The > spamassassin queues most likely get filled followed by sendmail having to > wait and queue up the slack. > > -- > James Tanis > Technical Coordinator > Monsignor Donovan Catholic High School > e: jtanis@mdchs.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 06:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE80106567A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CC18FC13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m6O5enHC007353 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <488815E1.8080509@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:40:49 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to make Windows application run under emulator wine show UNICODE characters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:08:54 -0000 All UNICODE characters show as small rectangles. Anybody knows which fonts should I install to cure this? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 06:16:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201801065671 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from mailgate.neusoft.com (mailgate.neusoft.com [210.83.25.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0428FC0A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from smtp.neusoft.com ([202.107.117.28]) by mailgate.neusoft.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m6O6FLss002959 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:15:21 +0800 Received: from neusofteaf5839 ([192.168.131.63]) by smtp.neusoft.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPPSA id <0K4H003Z5YPNW2@smtp.neusoft.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:15:23 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:15:25 +0800 From: EdwardKing To: FreeBSD Message-id: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Neusoft-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Neusoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to compile a c file into out file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:16:20 -0000 I compile a c file,like follows: $gcc other1.obj other2.obj myfile.c Then it create a a.out file.my question is how to create a file named myfile.out instead of name a.out? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may be confidential and/or privileged of Neusoft Group Ltd., its subsidiaries and/or its affiliates. If any reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, unauthorized use, forwarding, printing, storing, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. 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Thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 06:25:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B3C106564A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A008FC0C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-19-213-77.bna.bellsouth.net[68.19.213.77]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20080724062516H06009rk6oe>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:25:19 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.19.213.77] Message-ID: <48882042.6060503@datapipe.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:25:06 -0500 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EdwardKing References: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> In-Reply-To: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: How to compile a c file into out file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:25:19 -0000 EdwardKing wrote: > I compile a c file,like follows: > $gcc other1.obj other2.obj myfile.c > > Then it create a a.out file.my question is how to create a file named myfile.out instead of name a.out? > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may be confidential and/or privileged of Neusoft Group Ltd., its subsidiaries and/or its affiliates. If any reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, unauthorized use, forwarding, printing, storing, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. 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Thank you. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > use the -o flag to specify a filename of your liking. gcc -o somefile somefile.c somefile.o anotherfile.o ... ... ... ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 06:46:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A41106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net) Received: from mail.rwxrwxrwx.net (rwxrwxrwx.net [82.93.23.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F7D8FC15 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rwxrwxrwx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641D16D43D; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.rwxrwxrwx.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.rwxrwxrwx.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NrABVAsK0RtB; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rwxrwxrwx.net (phong [192.168.100.13]) by mail.rwxrwxrwx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FA0D6D409; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:30:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:27:24 +0200 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080724062724.GA16332@rwxrwxrwx.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, zhangsc@neusoft.com References: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: zhangsc@neusoft.com Subject: Re: How to compile a c file into out file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:46:31 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:15:25PM +0800, EdwardKing wrote: > I compile a c file,like follows: > $gcc other1.obj other2.obj myfile.c > > Then it create a a.out file.my question is how to create a file named myfile.out instead of name a.out? Use the -o parameter, ie: % cc -o file file.c -- Martin Tournoij carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net http://www.daemonforums.org QOTD: Captain Penny's Law: You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you Can't Fool Mom. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 07:13:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899EE106567C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223DE8FC19 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so902746ana.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:13:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=n1V6ei/T61BiEJryOvp3qdBRh9KWMH2ptEYmDKNMmQ0=; b=xLYmn+9Y96ocKH8mJgKUbcSM7F9ApYcsNvRIozBDT9Tm+eYcOVUmvHAzTD+P0PlhyR tiBiS7YKj5gLih+0FXyv3wdsi2u/21RlDimsY1U9XwJiD/C+qtS/l9+2WJKYhkvhaU/F /5INS7O8Jw3LrwbhdTuzvoa74PjVOzviRUDIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=rYeNYSz2UWHv+7/mRpvAi9e5mDG4XemQymZfK1gKGZlHbbGms56Fq5N2F9/REKoyul xTWpth/xkVyzXrtQ4ST01I8qRUopbcgCRfnyvYxQgcsUQEKLtUsEsKx8UGjJ1xJNbu0M Zi3QdmNUhQXl2KOh5tDGqM2dNCNwbS42ntB80= Received: by 10.101.67.11 with SMTP id u11mr1133940ank.118.1216883626456; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 200-117-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.117.200]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm4335134ywd.8.2008.07.24.00.13.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:13:39 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807240413.39880.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:13:47 -0000 On Wednesday 23 July 2008 21:03:36 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gonzalo Nemmi > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:02 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD for webserver? > > > > On Wednesday 23 July 2008 03:47:04 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > This seems to be a common misperception about ports. Ports > > > > aren't something > > > > magical. They do exactly what you would do from the commandline > > > > (i.e. ./configure, make, make install), except they come with > > > > several bonuses. > > > > > > 1) The port maintainer has already worked out all the quirks to > > > > make it compile > > > > and install properly on FreeBSD. 2) The port maintainer has > > > > already supplied > > > > patches that allow the software to build correctly on FreeBSD. > > > > 3) All the > > > > dependencies are already taken care of. 4) Upgrading is > > > > quite simple and > > > > > > straightforward. 5) The software is now > > > > architechture-independent (in most > > > > cases), meaning you can move from Intel to AMD (for example) > > > > without having to > > > > worry that the software will no longer build and you'll have to > > > > start from > > > > scratch again. > > > > > > > > For example, I decided today that I wanted to try out some > > > > software named > > > > > > "arguseye". So I downloaded and untarred the program. I > > > > looked at the > > > > > > dependencies. It requires a number of perl modules, some of > > > > which are not in > > > > ports. So, I just created three new perl ports to satisfy those > > > > dependencies > > > > and submitted them this afternoon. > > > > > > > > Once those are accepted into the tree, I'll create the arguseye > > > > port and submit > > > > it as well. Then, when someone else wants to install arguseye, > > > > all they will > > > > have to do is type "make install clean" in the port directory and > > > > everything > > > > that they need will be installed for them. > > > > > > > > Unless you're a glutton for punishment, why would you do all that > > > > yourself? > > > > > > Because maybe you don't care for the porter's choice of defaults. > > > > > > Many programs come with hard-coded defaults that are modified > > > in a config file. For example cistron-radius. Another example > > > is the dspam port. The porter for that insisted on using a > > > default of apache vhost. However the default apache port does > > > not activate this. I don't give a rat's ass that vhost is > > > supposedly more secure. Another one that always pisses me off > > > is the porter's choice in building uw-imap to turn off plaintext > > > passwords. And the default for pine is also to turn off > > > plaintext support. > > > > > > Another problem is that not all porters are good about maintaining > > > their ports. For example icradius. Someone spent a lot of time > > > creating the port for that. Then just let it die. Another is > > > the open source ingres database. Julian ported that one then > > > lost interest, it died sometime around FBSD 4.X > > > > > > Another problem with ports is that all of them like pulling the > > > original source from the author's site. I've had a few where the > > > author released the code under GPL then a few years later lost > > > interest, stopped paying whatever ISP he had the main site for > > > the program at, and the porter also lost interest in the project > > > and never bothered obtaining the last available tarfile from > > > the authors site and uploading it to freebsd, then both disappeared. > > > Another one I can recall is the gated code, similar issue. > > > > > > The fundamental achillies heel of the ports system is it makes > > > the assumption that every package in the ports system is popular > > > and will be supported for the indefinite future by the original > > > package developer. The ports system counts on this insofar that > > > it assumes that if the original porter loses interest and stops > > > tracking the master site, that someone else will step in and > > > assume responsibility for maintaining the port. > > > > > > The reality is that in every release of FreeBSD, some ports go > > > wanting for sponsors, and nobody steps forward and so when the > > > port stops building, the FreeBSD maintainers simply cut it out > > > of the ports tree, plus anything dependent on it. > > > > > > This assumption is fine for people running vanilla apache or > > > whatever systems, which is most people. But, if your doing > > > anything that isn't plain-jane middle of the road, you better > > > assume that if your using a series of ports, to make detailed > > > notes, and save the ports, and save the patches, and save > > > the distfiles. You may need to see how they did it in an > > > older FreeBSD system when a new version of FreeBSD comes out > > > that is missing one or more of the ports you depend on. > > > > > > Ultimately, ports isn't any different than most other things. > > > When it's properly executed it's great. But proper execution > > > of the entire thing depends on every porter who has an active > > > port in the system doing the right thing, and there's so many of > > > them that statistically, some of them are going to be flakes. > > > > > > Ultimately, if your going to be a server admin, you need to > > > know how to build your applications without ports. > > > > > > It's no different than, for example, I know how to pour and > > > form concrete, I know how to plumb pipes. But if I needed > > > concrete poured, or pipes plumbed, I would call a contractor > > > and a plumber, and because I know how to do these things I > > > would be able to keep an eye on what the people I hired > > > were doing and know if they were doing what they were supposed > > > to be doing, or if they were incompetents. > > > > > > The folks that depend utterly on ports and have no notion of > > > how to build it manually, are like the people who don't know > > > how to pour concrete or plumb pipes, and who hire a mason and > > > a plumber anyway. They think they are having their concrete > > > and pipes done, but in reality they have no clue if the > > > work is really being done properly or not. And, years later > > > that concrete may be cracked and the pipes leaking, and > > > they have no clue if it was due to crap work or something else. > > > > > > Ted > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Ted, with all due respect, you do have pointed out some valid > > points .. yet, > > there is a mailig list for that matter... > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > > > you seem to be pretty knowledgable about certain aspects that > > others don't > > even came across simply because we don't run into those problems > > because we > > don't need or use a given piece of software ... > > Your taking quite a leap to be speaking for "we" on this list, Not really .. unless you take that "we" as an absolute... meaning "everyone in this list except Ted Mittelstaedt", which would be a pretty unusual interpretation of the word, then no .. i don't feel I took quite that leap ... > are you quite sure that everyone else does not run into these > problems? ;-) The ports you referenced were, mainly: cistron-radius icradius dspam uw-imap pine .. so .. yes .. I'm pretty positive about the fact that a lot of the members of this list (which is usually the first list that newcomers/desktop users/occasional users/and the like come to for answers) do not run into the quirks of said ports. As a matter of fact (and maybe even as a proof of my observation) I have a fully functional FreeBSD 7 RELEASE, a non of those ports installed .. Hence .. it was safe to use "we" from my point of view ... yet .. it's on our right to choose the prism we'll use to examine the object of our studies ... and utterly: reality itself :) ... > What I was speaking about is a structural issue that is not a > problem with ports per-se, it is a problem with how ports are USED. > > Ports is a great tool, I can't speak highly enough of it. However > like ALL tools, if not used properly it will not work very well > > It does not help to jump on the ports mailing list and bitch about > how people use the tool. Agreed .. and I'll take the responsability to take that statement a step forward and add to that, that it actually does not help to jump on the ports nor to any other mailing list and bitch about anything ... The problem is not the list ... the problem is the bitching .. > The folks that built ports cannot control > if a porter loses interest in his port and nobody else picks it > up. Fact > They cannot write a technical fix for this, it is a human problem. > However that human, not software, problem will affect YOU if you > happen to be using that port, just as sure as a technical software > build problem in the port manager would. Fact > Like all things in life it is fine as long as you understand what > your doing and all the implications of using a prewritten set of > instructions. But there is more to the eye than just CD > /usr/ports/whatever and typing make install, and folks on this list that > just say that is all there is to it are doing a disservice to a newbie. Fact again .. and to be honest .. I never disagreed with those .. or said contrary to that ... > > It's my experience ( and of course, YMMV ...) that por > > maintainers do answer > > e-mails and fix stuff when asked to do so .. It happened to me at least > > :) > > Most do but not all. As I said there is always a list of ports in > every BSD release that > the mangers drop as a result of the port maintainer not responding > to e-mails to fix a build. Sure thing .. I have yet to find an absolute in life ... And again .. I told you .. "you do have pointed out some valid points" ... Those we just went through are some of them. > > Yet, some (maybe even most) of your observations still stand true ... > > > > Whoever .. as it has been criteriously pointed out by Paul Schmehl: > > > > "There are certainly special cases where compiling from source is > > preferable, especially if you have a highly customized installation, but > > those are the exceptions rather than the rule." > > > > And I do agree with that statement ... to put it simple: > > exceptions can never > > be taken as a basis for general rule ... > > Which is why I said that "this assumption is fine for people running > vanilla apache or whatever systems, which is most people." > > > Still, should you be kind enough .. I'd like to invite you to post those > > issues on freebsd-ports for all of us to know about them and then be in a > > position to discuss those issues in due time .. because evetually > > ... those > > will bite some of us sooner or later ... > > Any experienced FreeBSD porter already knows about this. And there is > no fix other than to attempt to force people to take over ports that > are abandonded, which wouldn't work and is certainly contrary to the > FreeBSD spirit. Essentially this is a problem that affects ANY open > source package including Linux, so it's not really on topic in a > narrow group like ports. It's just something to be aware of when > using ports, or any OSS, just like you have to be aware of the Microsoft > Product Lifecycle if you use Windows. So .. we seem to have two roads ahead: 1) Do nothing about it .. After all any experienced FreeBSD porter already knows about this, yet the problems still stand the test of time .. 2) Bring it into the table (the right table being the ports mailing list) once and again until somebody stands up and fixes it ... I'm going for option number 2 ... unless people keep reminding each other about a broken/abandoned/outdated/unameit port, there's little to no chance that a new "porter" wannabe (or an experienced porter ... who already has enough of a burden with his own ports .. ) has the chance to take over it ... I have the gut feeling that it's pretty much a safe assumption to say that nobody is going over every port looking for outdated sources/misssing patches/how to improve defaults/compatibility issues, etc, etc, etc ... See Ted ... everybody knows Pepsi and Coke (just to name too of the thousands of corporations I could mention ), yet both corporations spend millons of dollars on publicity every single year ... once, and again, and again, and again ... Why would they do that? Why would _huge_ corporations spend millons on advertising a product we all know since as far back in time as we can remember? are they stupid ? do they need to burn cash for no reason at all or something?? Why would they keep getting their names into the table? ... There's an easy answer for that one .. they don't want anybody to forget about them .. everyday comes with a newborn .. and every Pepsi guy can switch to Coke and viceversa ... they need to be on the table no matter what ... beacuse they know that "they" need to reach you and not the other way around ... Having guys like you pointing this kind of things out is a good thing .. it reminds the rest of the porters about a given problem and at the same time it informs new porters wannabes and newcomers about a given problem that they potentially may want to solve .. ;) How would you know that "fretsonfire", "glewpy", "linux-quake4", etc, don't work unless I tell you? Well you could go over every single port checking for problems ... or have me telling it once and again until somebody fixes it .. To be honest ... I really can't picture anybody going port over port checking for problems ... but I can see me telling it on a public list once and again for averyone to know .. like I did in the past (should you care to take a look at the list archive's ).. and like I just did once again on the precedent paragraph :) Once again .. with all due respect: that was the point of my answer ... -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 07:39:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B941065670 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76F38FC08 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6O7dZ3k099819; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:39:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6O7dVZV099816; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:39:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:39:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: EdwardKing In-Reply-To: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> Message-ID: <20080724093917.V99815@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <00c001c8ed54$aa061420$3f83a8c0@neusofteaf5839> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: How to compile a c file into out file? 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Pyzor Errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:21:47 -0000 I've set Pyzor as a cron job to update each night. All was running fine until a week or so ago when I started getting the following errors.... downloading servers from http://pyzor.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/inform-servers-0-3-x Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/pyzor", line 4, in pyzor.client.run() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyzor/client.py", line 991, in run ExecCall().run() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyzor/client.py", line 185, in run self.servers = self.get_servers(servers_fn) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyzor/client.py", line 410, in get_servers servers.read(open(servers_fn)) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyzor/client.py", line 119, in read self.append(pyzor.Address.from_str(line)) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pyzor/__init__.py", line 458, in from_str fields[1] = int(fields[1]) IndexError: list index out of range I've seen from other posts on forums that this maight be due to the main Pyzor server being down and since there is only one main server then its in the hands of the gods ! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 09:27:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7E01065673 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4208FC2B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=53454 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLx6J-0004LT-FD; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:27:07 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4902 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLx6J-0003Mv-5e; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:27:07 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81EE398E0; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48884AE9.3000803@boosten.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:27:05 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> <20080723215917.GA64673@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080723215917.GA64673@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080713-0, 07/13/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: Derek Belrose , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:10 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:41:46AM -0400, Derek Belrose wrote: >> What is the recommended way of doing port management? > > > Alternatively you could use one server to build packages which are then > stored on a shared filesystem to install on all others, but that sounds > like more work to me. > It would be a great feature to actually being able to build packages without having to install them. Or did I miss that feature in the man-pages? Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 09:27:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335EB106567B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D428FC0A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48884B19.5040304@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:27:53 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Conrad References: <200807232315562.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> <4887A5E8.4000200@FreeBSD.org> <20080724033478.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <20080724033478.SM01624@TX2.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libbz2.so.3 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:27:53 -0000 Len Conrad wrote: > >>> FreeBSD 6.3-R >>> amavis, spammassassin, clamav installed via ports >>> clamav is logging : > > > >>> Jul 23 16:08:32 mx2 amavis[2626]: (02626-01-2) (!!)run_av >>> (ClamAV-clamscan) FAILED - unexpected exit 1, >>> output="/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libbz2.so.3" not found, >>> required by "clamscan"" >>> All the system has similar is: >>> find / -iname "*libbz2*" >>> /usr/lib/libbz2.a >>> /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2 >>> /usr/lib/libbz2.so >>> /usr/lib/libbz2_p.a >>> Really nothing on Google about libbz2.so.3 >> >> You installed a 7.x/8.x package. > > ok, thanks. I see where that did happen, grabbed the wrong one from > freshports. > > deleted clamav pkg > > added the "6" clamav. > > Now get a different error: > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamav-freshclam start > > Starting clamav_freshclam. > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.7" not found, required by > "libgmp.so.7" Same error, different port. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 09:34:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230EE1065679 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulka@man.poznan.pl) Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7525C8FC1E for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulka@man.poznan.pl) X-Virus-Scanned: by PSNC antivirus scanner at man.poznan.pl Received: from calycanthus-baby.man.poznan.pl (calycanthus-baby.man.poznan.pl [150.254.149.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/auth/ldap/milter/tls) with ESMTP id m6O9L2Va005891 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48884979.9060802@man.poznan.pl> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:20:57 +0200 From: Michal Kulczewski Organization: PSNC User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20080302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 OpenPGP: id=BFA9832E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: upek fingerprint on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:34:16 -0000 Hi, I followed the instructions given on http://www.shapeshifter.se/articles/upek_touchchip_freebsd/ to make my fingerprint sensor working on FreeBSD. However when I try to enroll the user via 'bbdm' I'm getting an error: 'port_LoadLibrary: dlopen(/usr/local/lib/libtfmessbsp.so) failed, error = (null)' and bbdm is simply hanging (or waiting for something). Does anyone have a clue how to solve it ? I've alredy downloaded the lates version of upek driver for FreeBSD 7 and libtfmessbsp.so is placed in the accurate location. Regards, Michal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 09:44:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885661065673 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A228FC14 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KLxNU-0006xV-NM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:52 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.95.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:52 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:46:27 -0400 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <59adc1a0807240122q7253bbeasff1f3a7b6c216561@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: calcru went backwards on 7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:58 -0000 Dimitar Vasilev wrote: > Hi, > I'm having calcru went backwards issues on a machine with the following > config: > > MB: MSI K8D Master-F > 2xOpteron 242 2.2Ghz > BIOS - от 2005-та > 7-stable > areca 1120 > 8 disks > HDD temperature 28-29 for 1st five, 38-39 for the last 3. > > bios is as of 2005 - ami bios or something like this. > > Initial time counter acpi-fast. changed it to i8245, but without success. > Problem is that I get 10-15 messages, after which machine freezes - and > it's not possible to log in via ssh. > then after some time it looses ping also and it has to be reset. > > smart says disks are ok. > > Could someone help on this? > > Thanks in advance!. Only two things I can think of are to try the TSC timer as well, but sort of doubt that will change anything. The other is if there is any CPU frequency speed reduction when idle (PowerNow!) settings in the BIOS try disabling that functionality. IIRC some of these had the ability for different cores/cpus to run at slightly different frequencies to reduce power consumption and this can really confuse the OS. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 10:04:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F9106567F for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52EF8FC2A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <488853C5.9000500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:04:53 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nightrecon@verizon.net References: <59adc1a0807240122q7253bbeasff1f3a7b6c216561@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calcru went backwards on 7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:04:53 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > Dimitar Vasilev wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm having calcru went backwards issues on a machine with the following >> config: >> >> MB: MSI K8D Master-F >> 2xOpteron 242 2.2Ghz >> BIOS - от 2005-та >> 7-stable >> areca 1120 >> 8 disks >> HDD temperature 28-29 for 1st five, 38-39 for the last 3. >> >> bios is as of 2005 - ami bios or something like this. >> >> Initial time counter acpi-fast. changed it to i8245, but without success. >> Problem is that I get 10-15 messages, after which machine freezes - and >> it's not possible to log in via ssh. >> then after some time it looses ping also and it has to be reset. >> >> smart says disks are ok. >> >> Could someone help on this? >> >> Thanks in advance!. > > Only two things I can think of are to try the TSC timer as well, but sort > of doubt that will change anything. The other is if there is any CPU > frequency speed reduction when idle (PowerNow!) settings in the BIOS try > disabling that functionality. IIRC some of these had the ability for > different cores/cpus to run at slightly different frequencies to reduce > power consumption and this can really confuse the OS. The "calcru went backwards" message can have two causes: 1) Your time counter really went backwards and is too broken to use. 2) Something caused clock interrupts to be delayed for extremely long periods of time. This happens if you break to DDB for example. It can also happen if there are kernel bugs, maybe in a driver etc. Try to enable additional debugging (WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc; see the developers handbook) and see where it gets you. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 10:21:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929DA106567D for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from G.A.Chappell@lboro.ac.uk) Received: from weed.lut.ac.uk (weed.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACAE8FC24 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from G.A.Chappell@lboro.ac.uk) Received: from [158.125.1.203] (helo=ping.lut.ac.uk) by weed.lut.ac.uk with esmtps (SSLv3:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.66) id 1KLxYi-00023e-8a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:56:28 +0100 X-Lboro-Archived: Archived Received: from [158.125.49.50] (account elgac@lboro.ac.uk [158.125.49.50] verified) by ping.lboro.ac.uk (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTPSA id 9536887 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:56:27 +0100 Message-ID: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:56:26 +0100 From: Gavin Chappell Organization: Loughborough University User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: b26f1aa00d4736e3106d228d48560036 X-Lboro-Filtered: weed.lut.ac.uk, Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:56:28 +0100 Subject: NWFS filesystem support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:21:12 -0000 Hi all, I can see that there's a mount_nwfs utility for use with the NCP suite of utilities to provide a network connection to a Novell Netware server running the traditional filesystem. Is there any way that this could be used to mount a Netware filesystem attached locally (via a Dell PERC 3/DC controller and PV220S disk enclosure) for data recovery purposes? Regards, Gavin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 10:26:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82910106566B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (smtp2-wak-ext.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95678FC18 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp2-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6OAQe2C022365 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:26:41 +0100 Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A8DB770007A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:26:35 +0100 From: "Marc Coyles" To: , Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:26:31 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c8ed77$bd5ae140$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <005a01c8ecce$d54e5d80$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Cc: Subject: RE: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:26:49 -0000 OK - further developments! Got to the first reboot stage after running "sh freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf install" First point to note: If you don't want a sudden panic attack, remember to remove the non-bootable floppy disk from the drive. Other than that, all has gone to plan and is working fine, other than named which is failing - at a guess because I ended up with the original file rather than the new file. Can anyone point me to where I can get me grubby l'il mits on a clean named.conf from 7.0-RELEASE? Marc A Coyles ICT Support Team (ext 730) Mbl: 07850 518106 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 10:41:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4271106567A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA018FC19 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.lon.namesco.net (126.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m6OAfRfj056715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:41:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48885C50.5040509@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:41:20 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chocas, Connie S" References: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C89B@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> <82f3feb90807221554u14fad52ep2bb77b486c6f251a@mail.gmail.com> <20080723151149.GB99140@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C8A0@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> In-Reply-To: <30DB98752965D743963F4DA5885473F3115841C8A0@ES02SNLNT.srn.sandia.gov> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Jerry McAllister' , darko gavrilovic , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:25 -0000 Chocas, Connie S wrote: > I could not find anything referencing export controls for FreeBSD. You may find the following link for Apache Software Foundation products helpful. This is the type is information that is needed to determine what is required to legally export software. If FreeBSD has any cryptographic functions there are export restrictions that need to be considered. > http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/#matrix > > The best I could find on this wasnt very helpful, but may be of some use. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2005-April/003269.html Vince > Connie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:12 AM > To: darko gavrilovic > Cc: Chocas, Connie S; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Free BSD 6.3 Export Control Classification > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:54:39PM -0400, darko gavrilovic wrote: > > >> http://www.freebsd.org/where.html >> > > I don't see anywhere in that reference that the question is answered > or even alluded to. It does give information on how to obtain a > copy of FreeBSD, but nothing about ECC. > > ////jerry > > > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Chocas, Connie S wrote: >> >> >>> I would appreciate you assistance in providing the U.S. Commerce >>> Department Export Control Classification for FreeBSD 6.3. >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Connie Chocas >>> Sandia National Laboratories >>> Classification and Export Control >>> Phone: (505) 844-5982; Fax: (505) 284-4927 >>> Email: cschoca@sandia.gov >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> -- >> regards, >> dg >> >> "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals >> and shorts. >> Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that >> I was wrong. >> You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 10:41:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7611065681 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED208FC1E for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OAfau0002385; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:41:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6OAfaLs002382; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:41:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:41:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gavin Chappell In-Reply-To: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20080724123920.O2369@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NWFS filesystem support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:41:45 -0000 > utilities to provide a network connection to a Novell Netware server running > the traditional filesystem. Is there any way that this could be used to mount > a Netware filesystem attached locally (via a Dell PERC 3/DC controller and > PV220S disk enclosure) for data recovery purposes? it would be completely different code to do this. with mount_ncpfs all fs handling is done by netware. AFAIK there is no such tool simple use qemu to run netware possibly directly from that disk and then use virtual network interfaces and mount_ncpfs :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 10:49:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CF8106564A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from G.A.Chappell@lboro.ac.uk) Received: from weed.lut.ac.uk (weed.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3F18FC0A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from G.A.Chappell@lboro.ac.uk) Received: from [158.125.1.203] (helo=ping.lut.ac.uk) by weed.lut.ac.uk with esmtps (SSLv3:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.66) id 1KLyNi-0004AE-Gu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:49:11 +0100 X-Lboro-Archived: Archived Received: from [158.125.49.50] (account elgac@lboro.ac.uk [158.125.49.50] verified) by ping.lboro.ac.uk (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.2) with ESMTPSA id 9539676 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:49:09 +0100 Message-ID: <48885E25.7090900@lboro.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:49:09 +0100 From: Gavin Chappell Organization: Loughborough University User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> <20080724123920.O2369@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080724123920.O2369@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: 784e814ffcaade99d930b107fe8c5c77 X-Lboro-Filtered: weed.lut.ac.uk, Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:49:11 +0100 Subject: Re: NWFS filesystem support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:49:12 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> utilities to provide a network connection to a Novell Netware server >> running the traditional filesystem. Is there any way that this could >> be used to mount a Netware filesystem attached locally (via a Dell >> PERC 3/DC controller and PV220S disk enclosure) for data recovery >> purposes? > > it would be completely different code to do this. with mount_ncpfs all > fs handling is done by netware. > > AFAIK there is no such tool > > simple use qemu to run netware possibly directly from that disk and then > use virtual network interfaces and mount_ncpfs :) (re-posting to the list to explain the background to why I'm asking...) I have a working Netware 5.1 installation which will no longer recognise the VOL2: volume (which is on a RAID5 in the PV220S). I think this is the latest in a long line of problems with the 220S, there's many annoyed users around these parts who have had problems with them). In short, I can't use Netware to either mount or VRepair the damaged volume, so I have the 4 disk RAID5 set which I can't attach to any other controller (this is the only PERC3/DC I have, which is based on an LSI Logic controller, all the other RAID controllers I have in my Dells are PERC3/Di, which are based on Adaptec controllers and can't recognise the LSI Logic array). I was hoping that maybe Linux or Unix/BSD would have enough NWFS code to be able to attach the volume directly and treat it as a local filesystem rather than being transported across the network via NCP. Looks like I'm out of luck and will have to settle for the content from the backup tapes I've already restored, and lose the remaining days worth of changes :-( Cheers, Gavin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 11:15:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7A81065679 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feba:632a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6EE8FC1C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m6OBEl1X003956; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:14:47 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:14:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> <20080723215917.GA64673@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <48884AE9.3000803@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <48884AE9.3000803@boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807241314.46640.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Roland Smith , Derek Belrose , Peter Boosten Subject: Re: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:15:03 -0000 On Thursday 24 July 2008, Peter Boosten wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:41:46AM -0400, Derek Belrose wrote: > >> What is the recommended way of doing port management? > > > > Alternatively you could use one server to build packages which are then > > stored on a shared filesystem to install on all others, but that sounds > > like more work to me. > > It would be a great feature to actually being able to build packages > without having to install them. Or did I miss that feature in the > man-pages? > > Peter It is technically impossible to create a package without first installing it's dependencies, so people usually a create chroot for that purpose. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 11:55:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B6F1065674 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zajoho@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D636F8FC20 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zajoho@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c30so2703008ika.3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:54:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Gxkb34sAyxFmZ4ZcR4IhIGcHR2K9ioqT8/M2bfR1lCs=; b=L5yb3KQTgXAsOYVNsk5KcaHppZnuPD5R5WYhpcGLDMJ7MqfCVm0P7zVja3IRZUnxP0 ckwRdqVZg+ROfinO8tMnG8xSfrlAt507OZapWk9KrHmZufX2/1BOc6pEU3D/Rxj4kZQA wl1/DzvfSfB9f7m5U4h02iDMe60tHxX2RMo0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=I1pv0bwgTHvMpHd//CZ73aV1id9m5nQofnNQNFkRKz50tkss9fZbwu3nKmRo6YRRi+ KkbYWZiAm3rIL6yOCU/QNxI9hbafHAFJwlubXsRbmXkqtlXjjNN5B+ObAOJQVu2LYiMP m8rmHlHRKzJ44ksBQzWPQkbnOoPbs8nWDk3ZQ= Received: by 10.210.52.9 with SMTP id z9mr222436ebz.12.1216899013071; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.28.10 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:30:12 +0200 From: "Bruno Joho" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Sendmail local LAN delivery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55:09 -0000 Hi folks we have a inside the Lab (Class B Net, eg: bnet.ourdomain.com) several workstations (eg: host1.intra015.bnet.ourdomain.com) in different Class C Net (eg.intra015.bnet.ourdomain.com). There is a Mail Hub outside the Class B Net which communicates with the Internet and delivers the mails sent by the workstations. All workstations have a "Smarthost" entry in the cf file. Incoming mails are collected by the mailhub, which provides IMAP and POP access for all workstations. No mail coming from the Internet will be delivered directly to the workstations. Everything works fine, exept one (small) problem. How can I configure the sendmal.cf from the local workstations to send the mail addressed to a neighbour workstation (eg. from host1.intra015.bnet.ourdomain.com to host2.intra016.bnet.ourdomain.com) directly. Sending it to the mailhub and then sending it back to the Intranet is no option due to firewall restrictions. I apreciate any help, thanks Bruno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 11:55:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC85106564A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1A48FC1D for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.freebsd.questions@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3424261rvf.43 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WR+P5VtftWrhEqMYl9o2zUn/51PAju0/3+Mp6cCQsdQ=; b=q2kgZo2HXOYRj6s5BEHzXLF8v0180zw8Nq+7Bg+1B1yDLkSCpK6JWmfre6gyswE4kv gF7YqosOGsVKS4TCIUBXo/Tth0G5paaqauzxcRbyfgzWpp5XATp8syjNNjMhUdeHd7VB wnYbfTxZQf5vCnVJnmTctfwfh84bRsDahLY98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oyR5ZchASJ7jG78lix5F6qOPs0o9r00mHhrGCuqBQCxXsnPaqG1TttiuyKzO5jS5ev S+D7YDv5e8odFCICnRd2HEZgYd1j4DtP4EyyC0w635vLCriEWmonOI2yqkjupGC5473A VIaZv4UgPm9+/pxklDDXWRaJGDNftWZiGlkRg= Received: by 10.141.114.15 with SMTP id r15mr84145rvm.164.1216900521129; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.7 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10549b080807240455t71f637ben2db99a453f13d66e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:55:21 -0400 From: "FreeBSD Questions" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <30fc78250807231348y399eb8e6y9a22d41532a5eddf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10549b080807220809n3d98be9fte062d83d32d3b1d7@mail.gmail.com> <20080722182314.GA44938@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200807221806.06544.gnemmi@gmail.com> <30fc78250807231348y399eb8e6y9a22d41532a5eddf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:55:21 -0000 Thank you all for your input. I'm studying up on OS design and implementation for my own personal edification, so I started reading my old college Tanenbaum text "Modern Operating Systems". Then I wanted to learn specifically about FreeBSD, so "The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System" was the next logical step. I'll expand to other topics of interest from there. Again, thank you for your comments! Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 12:18:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AD5106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26948FC18 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so15948950agc.3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:18:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZZEHX4aE3k2AUnJw+/aN9EDbcSDjQ3pr980SA6MwvJM=; b=SeDU2A3n6id7zkdrCTxLzMO3+dzVNOBWuu4pyHC+Z26nBUVe2HTaVQeERdH7WEpz7R NtPd132wDEG1ZX/HgaLPJshRqRVoZ3giAPOFMBHb9XcL7VIvoKWGX22FRgr+S06ESYaq b8uKc0s63YG0/yP4o6lY/r3WzvrBjtn8/G9iA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MzijuTuh9txnMxSt2/cnuVg4aekMNpJdeT7LG/nGw+B1dioasoYG+t+5iK1OwsKzUH x21IU2l8GGoiz6234A7cEPak+oB86bsouGwtiC7vIcRT9v4VDqkd/gE+x9XbcL/yUPrZ filgc9MUo5b+s5HAza5aaClvSUXlqfYFz8EzY= Received: by 10.100.252.17 with SMTP id z17mr394925anh.69.1216901932997; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.201.7 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f3feb90807240518i6238f92aof35d0100eca06508@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:18:52 -0400 From: darko To: "Gavin Chappell" In-Reply-To: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NWFS filesystem support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:18:54 -0000 what about MARS? http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/marsen.html would that be of any use? On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Gavin Chappell wrote: > Hi all, > I can see that there's a mount_nwfs utility for use with the NCP suite of > utilities to provide a network connection to a Novell Netware server running > the traditional filesystem. Is there any way that this could be used to > mount a Netware filesystem attached locally (via a Dell PERC 3/DC controller > and PV220S disk enclosure) for data recovery purposes? > > Regards, > Gavin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- regards, dg "..but the more you use clever tricks, the less support you'll get ..." -- M.W.Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 12:35:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753221065681 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA528FC1F for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KM02u-0006Yd-RH; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:35:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1C62262097; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48887720.1030009@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:35:44 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <003401c8ed77$bd5ae140$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> In-Reply-To: <003401c8ed77$bd5ae140$fd607e0a@Horbury.Internal> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 6.2-Release to 7.0-Release - stuck! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:35:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marc Coyles wrote: | OK - further developments! Got to the first reboot stage after running "sh | freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf install" | | First point to note: If you don't want a sudden panic attack, remember to | remove the non-bootable floppy disk from the drive. | | Other than that, all has gone to plan and is working fine, other than named | which is failing - at a guess because I ended up with the original file | rather than the new file. Can anyone point me to where I can get me grubby | l'il mits on a clean named.conf from 7.0-RELEASE? | | | Marc A Coyles | ICT Support Team (ext 730) | Mbl: 07850 518106 | Hi Marc, Very good - glad you got everything working! You can pull the named.conf directly from FreeBSD's CVSweb interface: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/etc/namedb/named.conf?rev=1.26.4.1;content-type=text%2Fplain;only_with_tag=RELENG_7_0_0_RELEASE Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIiHcg0sRouByUApARAnPVAJ94RfT7eCqvVunOO6XluavGZaEuwACgufeA LU/116zUPixfBF0F30MWdco= =4jJc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 12:55:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FE01065676 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from riaank@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886F08FC1C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from riaank@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3454305rvf.43 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=5KcWzOrQGQ8VbCyaQ/9mh3QV8b1AKrmzDPN0FJ6oVbo=; b=TvEYU2FZkUdCvw8z1utkVJL+YefQKcfRLJqLguPSPi8+jF543Eei3piGgamn0tL4gS +Bjn5oKGzwqL4fZO7sqv/ZjpNExaIl8R59n6eJybbYVgSY1WyDz1hGTOkfV0Ck6qa35p qpZZjmRusXshQ+oC6csQDdCmRL1cANliE0Brs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=pM6aoGrLETQFvk4rAk40E0W2nXx9MDzBhZQRd6DMO8wB7qJSP0W32Ef2rnsyDO9ZLH /j3HlOrrbFhresigzB0ybdWTBJC3Sn4iBXuAwhuylYeC65Doxt4AgX+SZBUjKvXj4AyF nwP/AVFS3H1GrUt8bjdGjJExsGW2ZsFTaxKwk= Received: by 10.141.29.21 with SMTP id g21mr95479rvj.225.1216902405816; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.193.5 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <85c4b1850807240526y353f3175m65823a071dd8f6a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:26:45 +0200 From: "Riaan Kruger" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Prepending data to struct uio in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:08 -0000 I wish to insert a small buffer into (actually in front of) a uio structure received from userland through an ioctl call. I then want to map this uio structure to a dma map. Currently I am mallocing a new buffer, copying the uio data and my own data to that buffer and then mapping the buffer to DMA. Is it possible to insert data into a uio structure? Are there any functions that might help me? Is it a bad idea? (I do hope this is not to the incorrect list) Riaan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 12:55:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE14B1065677; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31288FC26; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383846B94; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:37:21 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <48861448.7020708@aldan.algebra.com> Message-ID: <20080724133555.P63347@fledge.watson.org> References: <4885F2A6.5020204@aldan.algebra.com> <4885FCE5.1060507@FreeBSD.org> <48860725.9050808@aldan.algebra.com> <20080722161958.GA11139@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <48860E8C.6050400@FreeBSD.org> <48860EF6.2040007@aldan.algebra.com> <48861284.1050706@FreeBSD.org> <48861448.7020708@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Kris Kennaway , questions@FreeBSD.org, Jeremy Chadwick , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "sleeping without queue" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:28 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Kris Kennaway ???????(??): >> Mikhail Teterin wrote: >>> Kris Kennaway ???????(??): >>>> Well, I mean kernel backtrace. >>> Can I obtain that remotely and without restarting/panicking the box? >>> Thanks, >> kgdb on /dev/mem or procstat > root@aldan:~ (107) kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /dev/mem > [...] > (kgdb) bt > #0 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () > Error accessing memory address 0x0: Bad address. > > Even less luck with procstat: > > root@aldan:~ (108) locate procstat > root@aldan:~ (109) procstat > procstat: ???????? ???????. > root@aldan:~ (110) man procstat > No manual entry for procstat > > I'm sorry, but you'll need to be more specific. What should I type? Thanks, Assuming you're using 7.0 or an older 7-STABLE: procstat(1) appeared after 7.0 was released, but should be there if you slide forward on 7-STABLE. You can use "procstat -k pid" to see kernel stack traces for kernel threads working on behalf of the process. Depending on the level of detail you require, you can use -kk to also list function offsets inside the kernel, but the results are a bit harder to read. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 13:04:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9895C106564A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEA48FC0C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1984168fgb.35 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:04:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=RmVTxcK3HBHDF+hNyT9lYIXRlDRslNq2HfQ+n/zhPww=; b=NRituqU56ja+68QRbhJn4WPTlDQyK4io1hl9RqkT+KUxGZmB1uMkb3sW1PMdVkmZPY 9Gy9gNqvqLXHfMAPx3T892qZ7X5P3CuWNrbIZ95A9FSzGTdOezJ/41xOLUMRmTO2ebZB qqtYLonY2Dm5dwQiRp7FybH2tsuOW7zdSYD5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Fm5i19BoNZH9dnVaguIHyI5JSPkS8/zoPOB8FkzyiMVKwWscd2gb/dsREoGFQYNgVC MHz21M7xiVTPTX5WINgDYFIBYMco/GN3Wh/cT0UBvTP/uZnemFPGjg6tk78w1amVOhUs iwFpkVoQsSAUFqtBqG7sxAfmyZtSklo2DJsbI= Received: by 10.86.72.3 with SMTP id u3mr828570fga.62.1216904677697; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.100.10 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59adc1a0807240604m51c75a89n4ab7c426db1455fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:04:37 +0300 From: "Dimitar Vasilev" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <488853C5.9000500@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <59adc1a0807240122q7253bbeasff1f3a7b6c216561@mail.gmail.com> <488853C5.9000500@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: nightrecon@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calcru went backwards on 7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:04:39 -0000 > > The "calcru went backwards" message can have two causes: > > 1) Your time counter really went backwards and is too broken to use. > > 2) Something caused clock interrupts to be delayed for extremely long > periods of time. This happens if you break to DDB for example. It can also > happen if there are kernel bugs, maybe in a driver etc. Try to enable > additional debugging (WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc; see the developers handbook) > and see where it gets you. > > Kris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks Kris, Last time I tried to set the date there was a problem with the year - I could not set the date beyond 2007 Also HZ were 2000 instead of 1000, but at that time machine was a uniprocessor one. Best regards, Dimitar Vassilev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 13:36:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06343106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D4D8FC15 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from marge.bs.l (e180061204.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.61.204]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML2xA-1KM0zf3K5S-0005Ch; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:36:31 +0200 Received: from bsch by marge.bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KM0zf-0008AW-8s for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:36:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:36:31 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080724133631.GA31077@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+qmNfN+NznpZnzR4PsZ+xmFVEWYwSKFKatsvK jmyChJ/MXiyCmDBQXTe7A6fyCC2xY8THXdinlA8NN8510xU93Q uAnmvcJvDvdBjmuv8UqL1qbrGvpH/kt2wF91GEfEWo= Subject: Switch to alternate screen buffer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:36:33 -0000 Hi, this is difficult to google for. In a terminal window I oftenly pipe some progams output to vim or to less: $ someprg | vim - When the program fails and outputs an error message to stderr this will be overwritten by Vim. I know from some old Linux installations that Less and Vim are able to switch to an alternate screen buffer. They use the escape sequences "\e[?1049h" and "\e[?1049l" to switch back respectively. How can I activate this in FreeBSD? Thanks in advance. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 13:42:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDA410657F5 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3278FC23; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <488886D8.4030400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:42:48 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dimitar Vasilev References: <59adc1a0807240122q7253bbeasff1f3a7b6c216561@mail.gmail.com> <488853C5.9000500@FreeBSD.org> <59adc1a0807240604m51c75a89n4ab7c426db1455fb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <59adc1a0807240604m51c75a89n4ab7c426db1455fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nightrecon@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calcru went backwards on 7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:49 -0000 Dimitar Vasilev wrote: >> The "calcru went backwards" message can have two causes: >> >> 1) Your time counter really went backwards and is too broken to use. >> >> 2) Something caused clock interrupts to be delayed for extremely long >> periods of time. This happens if you break to DDB for example. It can also >> happen if there are kernel bugs, maybe in a driver etc. Try to enable >> additional debugging (WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc; see the developers handbook) >> and see where it gets you. >> >> Kris >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Thanks Kris, > > Last time I tried to set the date there was a problem with the year - I > could not set the date beyond 2007 That doesn't sound like a FreeBSD bug. > Also HZ were 2000 instead of 1000, but at that time machine was a > uniprocessor one. HZ=1000 by default, so are you saying you set it to 2000? Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 13:50:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0969E1065678 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robby@grab.co.za) Received: from qmail.entry.co.za (pdns.entry.co.za [196.211.91.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C15A8FC1B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robby@grab.co.za) Received: (qmail 58157 invoked by uid 1011); 24 Jul 2008 13:49:56 -0000 Received: from 192.168.1.33 by qmail.entry.co.za (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87/7662. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.33):. Processed in 0.063302 secs); 24 Jul 2008 13:49:56 -0000 X-Antivirus-qmail.entry.co.za-Mail-From: robby@grab.co.za via qmail.entry.co.za X-Antivirus-qmail.entry.co.za: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.33):. Processed in 0.063302 secs Process 58151) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (robby@entry.co.za@192.168.1.33) by qmail.entry.co.za with SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 13:49:56 -0000 Message-ID: <48888944.1050203@grab.co.za> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:53:08 +0200 From: Robby Balona User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Firefox3 port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:45 -0000 Hi Guys I have been tring to port firefox3 on freebsd 7 for a week now. I keep coming up against this error gmake:***[libgiofam.la] Error 1 I have done a portsnap update already. Please dont flame me for not looking on google for the error as I have not really worried about it until now, when I need firefox. Just thought I would mention it , Thanks Robby From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 14:00:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B57A106566B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CD58FC1B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OE0WGZ003127; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:00:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6OE0Vc7003124; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:00:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:00:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gavin Chappell In-Reply-To: <48885E25.7090900@lboro.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20080724155656.U3085@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> <20080724123920.O2369@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48885E25.7090900@lboro.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NWFS filesystem support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:00:45 -0000 > VOL2: volume (which is on a RAID5 in the PV220S). I think this is the latest > in a long line of problems with the 220S, there's many annoyed users around > these parts who have had problems with them). > > In short, I can't use Netware to either mount or VRepair the damaged volume, > so I have the 4 disk RAID5 set which I can't attach to any other controller > (this is the only PERC3/DC I have, which is based on an LSI Logic controller, > all the other RAID controllers I have in my Dells are PERC3/Di, which are > based on Adaptec controllers and can't recognise the LSI Logic array). I was you've got the punishment for using expensive proprietary software and hardware instead of cheap open source software without any extra hardware... > hoping that maybe Linux or Unix/BSD would have enough NWFS code to be able to > attach the volume directly and treat it as a local filesystem rather than > being transported across the network via NCP. you have to seek for recovery software for netware volume. if you are sure (or almost) that it's RAID problem i think i can help you but mail priv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 14:01:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C554106566B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56398FC16 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OE1VZ7003140; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:01:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6OE1U3O003137; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:01:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:01:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: darko In-Reply-To: <82f3feb90807240518i6238f92aof35d0100eca06508@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080724160053.F3085@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <488851CA.2070708@lboro.ac.uk> <82f3feb90807240518i6238f92aof35d0100eca06508@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gavin Chappell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NWFS filesystem support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:38 -0000 > what about MARS? > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/marsen.html > > would that be of any use? > no. because it's novell netware compatible server, not netware filesystem driver. netware volumes can ONLY be read by netware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 14:26:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CAE1065671 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D68FC1E for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6OEPhKM082047; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:25:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 374F6BA8E; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:25:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:25:36 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Robby Balona Message-ID: <20080724142536.GA91314@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <48888944.1050203@grab.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48888944.1050203@grab.co.za> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox3 port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:26:19 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:53:08PM +0200, Robby Balona wrote: > Hi Guys >=20 > I have been tring to port firefox3 on freebsd 7 for a week now. I keep=20 > coming up against this error Why are you trying to port it? It is allready in ports: www/firefox3 =20 > gmake:***[libgiofam.la] Error 1 >=20 > I have done a portsnap update already.=20 Using portsnap is not enough; it just updates the ports tree. You also need to update your installed ports. > Please dont flame me for not looking on google for the error as I have > not really worried about it until now, when I need firefox. You need to update your installed ports. You're missing gio-fam-backend, which is now needed by the gtk+ toolkit which is needed for firefox. Use portmaster or portupgrade to upgrade all you installed ports. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiIkOAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXeLQCdHu151na8fqfZ96Eccj2CdxIm Y48AniQ5w2ldVv5Pgq4M/ExNj+h4Is7P =4WnU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 14:38:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78D21065671 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robby@grab.co.za) Received: from qmail.entry.co.za (pdns.entry.co.za [196.211.91.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EB058FC08 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robby@grab.co.za) Received: (qmail 62574 invoked by uid 1011); 24 Jul 2008 14:37:31 -0000 Received: from 192.168.1.33 by qmail.entry.co.za (envelope-from , uid 1009) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.87/7662. spamassassin: 3.0.4. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. 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(robby@entry.co.za@192.168.1.33) by qmail.entry.co.za with SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 14:37:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4888946C.7040501@grab.co.za> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:40:44 +0200 From: Robby Balona User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48888944.1050203@grab.co.za> <20080724142536.GA91314@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080724142536.GA91314@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Firefox3 port problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:38:13 -0000 Thanks Roland I have much to learn. Regards Robby Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:53:08PM +0200, Robby Balona wrote: > >> Hi Guys >> >> I have been tring to port firefox3 on freebsd 7 for a week now. I keep >> coming up against this error >> > > Why are you trying to port it? It is allready in ports: www/firefox3 > > >> gmake:***[libgiofam.la] Error 1 >> >> I have done a portsnap update already. >> > > Using portsnap is not enough; it just updates the ports tree. You also > need to update your installed ports. > > >> Please dont flame me for not looking on google for the error as I have >> not really worried about it until now, when I need firefox. >> > > You need to update your installed ports. You're missing gio-fam-backend, > which is now needed by the gtk+ toolkit which is needed for firefox. > > Use portmaster or portupgrade to upgrade all you installed ports. > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 14:58:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F071065670 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312838FC1A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OEvejW003420; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:57:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6OEven6003417; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:57:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:57:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bertram Scharpf In-Reply-To: <20080724133631.GA31077@marge.bs.l> Message-ID: <20080724165727.O3416@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080724133631.GA31077@marge.bs.l> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switch to alternate screen buffer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:58:03 -0000 > In a terminal window I oftenly pipe some progams output to vim or to > less: > > $ someprg | vim - > > When the program fails and outputs an error message to stderr this will > be overwritten by Vim. > > I know from some old Linux installations that Less and Vim are able to > switch to an alternate screen buffer. They use the escape sequences > "\e[?1049h" and "\e[?1049l" to switch back respectively. > > How can I activate this in FreeBSD? no idea but do someprg 2>&1|vim - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 15:01:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5771065674 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0908D8FC20 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KM2K0-0004GP-GR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:01:36 -0700 Message-ID: <18633730.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080724050723.GA46852@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: jakub_lach@mailplus.pl References: <20080724050723.GA46852@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Subject: Re: portupgrade policykit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:37 -0000 Same problem here, policykit-gnome also. Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > Hi, > > Hope I didn't do something stupid here.... > > Tried to 'portupgrade -R policykit' but it came back with an error. So I > deinstalled it and now I'm trying to reinstall it, but it fails with the > following error. > > > R=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" > -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\""/var"\" > -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" > -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS > -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations > -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat > -Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c -o > kit-string.lo kit-string.c > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src > -DPACKAGE_LIBEXEC_DIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" > -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc\" > -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share\" > -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\"/var\" > -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" > -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS > -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations > -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat > -Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c > kit-string.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/kit-string.o > kit-string.c:141: error: redefinition of 'strndup' > kit-string.c:119: error: previous definition of 'strndup' was here > gmake[3]: *** [kit-string.lo] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/src/kit' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/src' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit. > > > Also tried 'make distclean' and a new 'make install clean', but it keeps > on failing. > > I hope that in case I need to reboot, it won't crash my system. But I'll > postpone my reboot as long as possible. Maybe I can reinstall it with your > advice. > > Thanks, > > Alain > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/portupgrade-policykit-problem-tp18625533p18633730.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 15:02:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A00106567B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D828FC2D for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2033320fgb.35 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:02:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1Sx5V4PFQTA1GkTJGwZOk34O5QwIoT3HPDk8Z2I6ero=; b=LkwgY3I7eZjfDaHCAwlonG4I/tE+iJkvjV7ydg78RjjIXvOUOZXMpDzJsgLNlEGXtq bXE8xp4bWTyR7dIGpL+jAWt3mE4fvMzlErk3RUKcq15diK67SfuDDfZRZFe96PnAEXGy Mn7URCFcDs6E05FtplvRvQIzi5BG9TfuP5p54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jJFpMH9sE//ebQm+2xKyJV8KUSPFEeyr7J9gOMRMz1RZnhrpsCFKRFjqe2oiZGMzPd Gxyt1/RVDp3Xla7Iw6wbg7Mz3MCmaz6jDEPEZ2Yb0CTvJd3pSbd/FbXcAxhcEuhWI4Pg S7yOTBps4yzYB+gct3uyttGS8cjcCGgo7hYx0= Received: by 10.86.98.10 with SMTP id v10mr936576fgb.39.1216911735634; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.100.10 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59adc1a0807240802l7061ff26r3dbfe8048d3a62ce@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:02:15 +0300 From: "Dimitar Vasilev" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <488886D8.4030400@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <59adc1a0807240122q7253bbeasff1f3a7b6c216561@mail.gmail.com> <488853C5.9000500@FreeBSD.org> <59adc1a0807240604m51c75a89n4ab7c426db1455fb@mail.gmail.com> <488886D8.4030400@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: nightrecon@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calcru went backwards on 7 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:02:17 -0000 2008/7/24 Kris Kennaway : > Dimitar Vasilev wrote: > >> The "calcru went backwards" message can have two causes: >>> >>> 1) Your time counter really went backwards and is too broken to use. >>> >>> 2) Something caused clock interrupts to be delayed for extremely long >>> periods of time. This happens if you break to DDB for example. It can >>> also >>> happen if there are kernel bugs, maybe in a driver etc. Try to enable >>> additional debugging (WITNESS, INVARIANTS, etc; see the developers >>> handbook) >>> and see where it gets you. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> Thanks Kris, >> >> Last time I tried to set the date there was a problem with the year - I >> could not set the date beyond 2007 >> > > That doesn't sound like a FreeBSD bug. > > Also HZ were 2000 instead of 1000, but at that time machine was a >> uniprocessor one. >> > > HZ=1000 by default, so are you saying you set it to 2000? > > Kris > Thanks Kris, I appreciate your help. I'm aware that bios bugs are not related to FreeBSD. Machine we're speaking about is one of the official mirrors for FreeBSD in Bulgaria. System was running fine with HZ=2000 from 2005 to 2007 with a single CPU and 5-stable series. After I moved back to Sofia we moved it to 7-stable, 1000 HZ by default and added a second CPU. I'm trying to isolate the problem with the help of all subscribers - I don't have frequent access to the server room which leads to delayed troubleshooting. Will change CMOS battery and update bios as a start. Thanks for helping. Best regards, Dimitar Vassilev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 15:09:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06A2106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E19E8FC13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KM2Rf-0008ej-PV; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:09:34 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F448226377A; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48889B28.3010709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:09:28 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d.hill@yournetplus.com References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> <20080718210657.36600379@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080718220154.5552427f@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080718220343.GA4953@kokopelli.hydra> <488118EE.8080101@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:09:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Duane Hill wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: | |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Chad Perrin wrote: |> | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: |> |> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 |> |> RW wrote: |> |> |> |>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 |> |>> Chad Perrin wrote: |> |>> |> |>>> My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor |> |>>> GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. |> |>> Are you talking about steganography? |> |> Sorry, I guess you're talking about volumes hidden in the unused space |> |> on a filesystem. I don't think there's anything. I'm not sure |> |> what the status of truecrypt is, I've heard some talk about it running |> |> on freebsd eventually. |> |> |> |> It would be a start for geli to be able to encrypt its metadata. |> | |> | So, are those basically my choices -- either wait for GBDE or GELI to |> | acquire that capability, or write it myself (which is not something I'm |> | prepared to do right now)? Bummer. |> | |> | Well . . . or wait for something else like TrueCrypt to get ported to |> | FreeBSD, I suppose. |> | |> |> Hi Chad, |> |> There is a beta version of the TrueCrypt 5.1a port out there. See: |> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-May/048432.html. |> |> I tried it in a VMware virtual machine a couple of months ago and it |> hung pretty consistently when copying files into the container. It's |> entirely possible that the problem was related to the virtual |> environment, so YMMV. | | What VMWare version were you using and what OS and version hosted the VM? | | I only ask as I have been searching for this myself. | | Currently, I am using a commercial product under Linux and Windoes | called BestCrypt by Jetico (http://www.jetico.com). | | I have VMware installed currently under Windoes Vista. VMware version is | 6.0.4-93057. I haven't had any issues thus far running a number of | FreeBSD guest OSes. | | If your version is less than what I'm running, I would be willing to | install and test. | Hi Duane, I originally tested the TC port inside of VMware Player 1.0.5 running on Win XP SP2. Do you think the hang could be caused by the version of VMware software that hosts the VM? I've been thinking about purchasing VMware Workstation, and if I do that, I'll test there as well. Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIiJso0sRouByUApARAs5NAJ0bRZ8fy999dI8iNAzTJyyp/suFwQCfTb1c o8LUGif4bOd17yrJzQLAhjU= =bZWc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 15:37:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A461065671; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13CB8FC0C; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97BC43E2C20; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E32D3E2C1F; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:34:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: duane@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: Greg Larkin In-Reply-To: <48889B28.3010709@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20080718155624.GA2886@kokopelli.hydra> <20080718210657.36600379@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080718220154.5552427f@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080718220343.GA4953@kokopelli.hydra> <488118EE.8080101@FreeBSD.org> <48889B28.3010709@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk encryption; hidden containers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.hill@yournetplus.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:37:39 -0000 On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Duane Hill wrote: > | On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Greg Larkin wrote: > | > |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > |> Hash: SHA1 > |> > |> Chad Perrin wrote: > |> | On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:01:54PM +0100, RW wrote: > |> |> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:06:57 +0100 > |> |> RW wrote: > |> |> > |> |>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:24 -0600 > |> |>> Chad Perrin wrote: > |> |>> > |> |>>> My preliminary searches on the subject suggest that neither GBDE nor > |> |>>> GELI encryption offers hidden volume/container capabilities. > |> |>> Are you talking about steganography? > |> |> Sorry, I guess you're talking about volumes hidden in the unused space > |> |> on a filesystem. I don't think there's anything. I'm not sure > |> |> what the status of truecrypt is, I've heard some talk about it running > |> |> on freebsd eventually. > |> |> > |> |> It would be a start for geli to be able to encrypt its metadata. > |> | > |> | So, are those basically my choices -- either wait for GBDE or GELI to > |> | acquire that capability, or write it myself (which is not something I'm > |> | prepared to do right now)? Bummer. > |> | > |> | Well . . . or wait for something else like TrueCrypt to get ported to > |> | FreeBSD, I suppose. > |> | > |> > |> Hi Chad, > |> > |> There is a beta version of the TrueCrypt 5.1a port out there. See: > |> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-May/048432.html. > |> > |> I tried it in a VMware virtual machine a couple of months ago and it > |> hung pretty consistently when copying files into the container. It's > |> entirely possible that the problem was related to the virtual > |> environment, so YMMV. > | > | What VMWare version were you using and what OS and version hosted the VM? > | > | I only ask as I have been searching for this myself. > | > | Currently, I am using a commercial product under Linux and Windoes > | called BestCrypt by Jetico (http://www.jetico.com). > | > | I have VMware installed currently under Windoes Vista. VMware version is > | 6.0.4-93057. I haven't had any issues thus far running a number of > | FreeBSD guest OSes. > | > | If your version is less than what I'm running, I would be willing to > | install and test. > | > > Hi Duane, > > I originally tested the TC port inside of VMware Player 1.0.5 running on > Win XP SP2. Do you think the hang could be caused by the version of > VMware software that hosts the VM? I've been thinking about purchasing > VMware Workstation, and if I do that, I'll test there as well. That could be. You could download the free VMware Server and try that first before purchasing VMware Workstation. It runs much the same. -d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 15:44:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A794E1065675 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay010.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay010.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A8D8FC0A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8EALg+iEhR9Nuw/2dsb2JhbACBWq9+ Received: from 176.219-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.244.219.176]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2008 17:44:53 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:39:57 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080724153957.GA788@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20080724050723.GA46852@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <18da510b0807240812u4ad55afck8e3778d84791c2b1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18da510b0807240812u4ad55afck8e3778d84791c2b1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: portupgrade policykit problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:44:55 -0000 Works like a charm, many thanks. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:12:12PM -0300, Bruno Schmitt wrote: >
Update your ports. There is a new patched version 0.9_1 that will > solve the problem.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at > 2:07 AM, Alain G. Fabry <alainfabry > @belgacom.net> wrote:
>

> Hi,
>
> Hope I didn't do something stupid here....
>
> Tried to 'portupgrade -R policykit' but it came back with an error. So I > deinstalled it and now I'm trying to reinstall it, but it fails with the fo > llowing error.
>
>
> R=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\""/usr/ > local/share"\" -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\&qu > ot; -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\""/var"\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR > =\""/usr/local/share/locale"\" -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"&quo > t;/usr/local/lib"\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMP > ILATION -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include   & > nbsp;-I/usr/local/include  -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -Wall -Wcha > r-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-alig > n -Wsign-compare -Wformat -Wformat-security -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ > kit-string.Tpo -c -o kit-string.lo kit-string.c
> >  cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../src -I../../src -DPACKAGE_LIBEXEC_D > IR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DPACKAGE_SYSCONF_DIR=\"/usr/local/etc\ > " -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share\" -DPACKAGE_BIN_DIR=\&quo > t;/usr/local/bin\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALSTATE_DIR=\"/var\" -DPACKAGE_LO > CALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -DPACKAGE_LIB_DIR=\"/usr/loc > al/lib\" -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_REENTRANT -DKIT_COMPILATION -I/usr/l > ocal/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wnes > ted-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Wformat -Wformat-securi > ty -MT kit-string.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/kit-string.Tpo -c kit-string.c  -fPI > C -DPIC -o .libs/kit-string.o
> > kit-string.c:141: error: redefinition of 'strndup'
> kit-string.c:119: error: previous definition of 'strndup' was here
> gmake[3]: *** [kit-string.lo] Error 1
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/sr > c/kit'
> gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9/sr > c'
> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/policykit/work/PolicyKit-0.9 > 9;
> gmake: *** [all] Error 2
> *** Error code 2
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit.
>
>
> Also tried 'make distclean' and a new 'make install clean', but > it keeps on failing.
>
> I hope that in case I need to reboot, it won't crash my system. But I'll > postpone my reboot as long as possible. Maybe I can reinstall it with your advi > ce.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alain
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> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 16:32:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0AF1065689 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FA38FC0C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.163] (pc-smvidal.critical.pt [192.168.1.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8D0E84F6 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:08:01 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <4888A8E3.6000209@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:08:03 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080720233540.099ddd46@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <20080720233540.099ddd46@ayiin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: rtorrent refuses to open bittorrent file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:32:31 -0000 Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:20:05 -0300 > luizbcampos wrote: > > >> As I am a new user to rtorrent I would like to know how to set it >> up properly. After I had configured .rc.rtorrent when I type >> --anyfile.torrent -- I got the answer that rtorrent is unable to open >> such a file... >> > > > hey, > what happens if you type /the/full/path/to/anyfile.torrent ? > > _________________________ > {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome > > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." > Edmund Burke > > I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > If you are using the default config and have a .torrent on your ~, load rtorrent: 1. $ cd ~ 2. $ rtorrent 3. press ENTER 4. press TAB for list of torrent in ~ To resume a download, if using the default config and with the .torrent in your ~, do the same exact steps as above and the program will re-hash and resume the download. Hope I've helped. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 17:05:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EA71065670 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ACC8FC13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so431351hsh.11 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:05:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=snc6BdTSvTMJ5x72r1bRFIqvNY4I7dGnUnl8P5mjJaE=; b=bHLm6IysVpOwQps4jUZrABqTbiNxaI4E3Q6FkQGDli0D4DgmnuGOfIa5tNQPJ0ZioC kRrPXUIXX/AAYfA9EnzgCMWljHW2BqBQC+Qh+w0yC/AeJbPlVLD7+3CvSLToWvkmVUBt 8mKD2cgyNZAmxn+YZzYFEZhn09zV1fmcTm9E4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :x-google-sender-auth; b=SKMUKaDc0s3Msawnrtw/rr7v32U2KZt3Fq6uOig2MMI2yWkDPmhHyES4xEO+vqUNK+ 8Q1PjKAfWmfWS2+bU/CjTGcq9aqBrS9+hBT4cB0rbvscoS2iMNMaH4JPhlNL83Lp+86x Oe0NbsChDmBL1ILnyWPMl6xkZ3cYerdgV8zrU= Received: by 10.100.108.20 with SMTP id g20mr888653anc.105.1216919120676; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.13 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:05:20 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 353f32d2eb5e48df Subject: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:05:23 -0000 The only stumbling block to ditching windows on my laptop is a network card. I have a vanilla ath card that works fine under win32 and fedora, as well as a lucent-branded wi card. Neither even appears in dmesg when I put it in pccard0/cbb0. If I stick a compact flash card in an adapter, however, it looks to work (haven't tried mounting it). Anyway, how do I even start to debug this, since I have no output? I notice one of the lights on the card flashes when I plug it in, but that could just be part of it's power-up process... Eventually, I plan to hack my bios to get a "unsupported network card" to run without locking up the bios boot process, but from what I've read, that's alot of work... Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 17:37:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAB91065674 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054898FC0A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from localhost ([70.107.188.207]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K4I00N53U2126DE@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:32:25 -0400 From: David Gurvich In-reply-to: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080724133225.0dd01e32@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: stevefranks@ieee.org Subject: Re: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:37:08 -0000 You need to make certain all the necessary modules for your card are loaded. Try 'kldload ath' and then put the card in and see if that does anything. Also, use 'pciconf -lv' to confirm what the card is detected as. See the handbook on wireless configuration if that works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 17:52:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD2A106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F378FC16 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so1044198ana.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:52:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=FEB0uTCBSmjhUt+hmyetlAe8uobRspHscrn2AhjAOKc=; b=O8dVmj6zaVWX9jYUWj0tt5FwwZrIlgKHg7fL/bXjp9hg/Gp16yIjXzUuiN2DeHrLHD 5wwiN0z6rVZrHdOlsbW9SmzU96dr67MBmHoHIHHEyDq49ulaA46/4M6aAYjrgYq1ESvs 8efDAvRSC5phXfmj1rhcbwDAHFcbX2b+JPBAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=j1sIn/0D3Vv34lPW+RpKg3SWWz7FTUQo/lLb90EihuKnuOeadBt+Iq1ECAuTE91tdh yUBOtDAO4jw5linKwiJ+K/njmtlP2WVq8cUZClUrT2NDOlYGvVHIXz6oRt2zhcT4qnng VGoeVbnpw1S/s2cRcugFGgnXIhC0SQ65HMm1c= Received: by 10.100.91.17 with SMTP id o17mr1032445anb.13.1216921968837; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.13 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807241052j2d2341bq11ed8986622b1626@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:52:48 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <539c60b90807241052t4f1c1be5w12c0997211f68159@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> <20080724133225.0dd01e32@verizon.net> <539c60b90807241052t4f1c1be5w12c0997211f68159@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 82f1ede6e1c8a8a3 Subject: Re: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:52:50 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Steve Franks wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:32 AM, David Gurvich > wrote: >> You need to make certain all the necessary modules for your card are >> loaded. Try 'kldload ath' and then put the card in and see if that >> does anything. Also, use 'pciconf -lv' to confirm what the card is >> detected as. See the handbook on wireless configuration if that works. >> It also fails to show up in pciconf -lv, but then, the compact flash card doesn't show up there either and it works fine. 7.0 loads if_ath and ath_hal by default. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 18:21:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A1106566C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCF18FC23 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so1050525ana.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:21:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=E5J1IW6GhjenxeAsbxz03NPh05NKl+KQzsVSUBgXdg0=; b=s4+vqVhWzhvDo/USUJljC6Azjfd8Mez2gigILwZ8Xk5uu4QBaSov9bjujjd9TWY1jh OtZ2T+JGzfn35XQOfdg2u3U1ZvoHLB6cge5KFBVXV1QpqImGnU3SBWUSU7i0G19LwYBk 8ry3e07JGpEBmhKa5LNMrN9QccWSlAYPqoz+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=jKpKgdYBTDGdz4sBasmSKUZmI/gCUivJRULhFa2632y/U3sjhcuvnpWtmR8dnFHn/t k5klUz5scqNbieCf5Esta+9yFmHJ9i6lC4XPr2cvqgt4iu7J8xqsrFMe3nVFHDt7AuhJ xoTA+NssFGMcu5vgCRkHG9SMvl6EyIji+MWL4= Received: by 10.100.143.12 with SMTP id q12mr1083852and.19.1216923682318; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.13 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807241121y7443e860o87334bc7b8fc258e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:21:22 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "David Gurvich" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <20080724135644.08f303c4@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> <20080724133225.0dd01e32@verizon.net> <539c60b90807241052t4f1c1be5w12c0997211f68159@mail.gmail.com> <20080724135644.08f303c4@verizon.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7712685feb3f785c Cc: Subject: Re: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:21:23 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM, David Gurvich wrote: > Some atheros cards are not supported. Is there any error message? > What is the card actually called? > No error messages to speak of. It's like it's not there. It works fine in all my older laptops as ath0, I should have mentioned earlier. Really hating having bought a compaq. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 18:24:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116B9106566B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zam4ever@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C958FC1A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zam4ever@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h27so953216wxd.7 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:24:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; bh=IqthqSKTagfIrUNMwzp4D5XskOdRGexSHKmh+MGNhyI=; b=u0gqMxb5TV6sh/TluesPlJc0nA5eZD/9iiG/S86MmC92A6zj9fpbmf7y5GJ/c2Dx6F cynE47/SnFb1FP1Z+cSSuDq/fXriXTUf3P6RDOtKr8y243wutHCAmTpPUqA16JdjDVjP jquwgyvkCw8HElYPDr2kpAeOQd/QfaEKmfFu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=RxGBBUf007mRm9NEMmSF25cyp9FEGLYdRy2jO0epndQHCZdR8Tld3vF5Wuid8kr4yz 5FU8f96/8HR7PlTcmobAWrUZICVZwhkNCLtH7U497oNPr2EHV8xfcchBPXB4yMSsaAOV dgCYyIFjZN4MoK266WJimbwr+zWFsf9fjwC2U= Received: by 10.100.41.11 with SMTP id o11mr965382ano.144.1216922382056; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.232.16 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:59:42 +0800 From: "Zamri Besar" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Zamri Besar Subject: DNS and DHCP Management System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:24:40 -0000 Good morning, When network are keep growing over time, network services such as dns and dhcp are playing an important function to any network administrators/engineers, which for a single downtime, it will cause a chaos to end users. By having redundancy/fail-over/etc services and proper plans, these failures will be mitigated and reduced, and off-course, transparent to end users. Without proper planning, choosing suitable tools/application, and testing, I believe that deployment and management of dns and dhcp services will become headache and a big challenge to network administrators/engineers. So, in this e-mail, I would like to ask and seek advices on how do you manage these two services, and from your past experiences, which is the best free/open-souce tools to manage a big deployment of dns and dhcp services? >From the google, I found the following options which are promising for above jobs: HostDB: The Best Damn host2DNS/DHCP Script Ever Written http://www.usenix.org/event/lisa05/tech/limoncelli.html http://everythingsysadmin.com/hostdb/ Maintain http://maintainproject.osuosl.org/ Sauron http://sauron.jyu.fi/ LDAP sdb back-end for BIND 9 http://bind9-ldap.bayour.com/ Have a nice day! -zamri- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 18:59:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7581065670 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0FE8FC18 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6OIxOaR027961; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080724135553.025d3660@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:59:29 -0500 To: "Bruno Joho" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080724-1, 07/24/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/7815/Thu Jul 24 10:09:44 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m6OIxOaR027961 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Sendmail local LAN delivery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:59:38 -0000 At 06:30 AM 7/24/2008, Bruno Joho wrote: >Hi folks > >we have a inside the Lab (Class B Net, eg: bnet.ourdomain.com) several >workstations (eg: host1.intra015.bnet.ourdomain.com) in different >Class C Net (eg.intra015.bnet.ourdomain.com). There is a Mail Hub >outside the Class B Net which communicates with the Internet and >delivers >the mails sent by the workstations. All workstations have a >"Smarthost" entry in the cf file. Incoming mails are collected by the >mailhub, which >provides IMAP and POP access for all workstations. No mail coming from >the Internet will be delivered directly to the workstations. >Everything >works fine, exept one (small) problem. How can I configure the >sendmal.cf from the local workstations to send the mail addressed to a >neighbour >workstation (eg. from host1.intra015.bnet.ourdomain.com to >host2.intra016.bnet.ourdomain.com) directly. Sending it to the mailhub >and then sending >it back to the Intranet is no option due to firewall restrictions. > >I apreciate any help, thanks > >Bruno Bruno, If I understand your question correctly, you will need to smarthosts, one on the LAN side, and one on the WAN/internet side. You will have to setup the LAN smarthost to forward mail to the WAN smarthost that it cannot deliver. You will have to enable the LAN smarthost and WAN smarthost to be able to pass mail through your firewall. Sendmail uses DNS for most host resolution, so you will need to setup MX records for the various LAN hosts to go to the LAN smarthost. Hope this helps. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 19:32:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662D0106567A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2700D8FC29 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.16.163] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1KM6Xv-000J3H-Lb; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:32:15 +0400 To: Derek Belrose References: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:31:07 +0400 In-Reply-To: <92B9E4E7-B8AB-41E6-952D-C24F6BD95F39@realgeeky.com> (Derek Belrose's message of "Tue\, 22 Jul 2008 00\:41\:46 -0400") Message-ID: <48237076@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Management on a larger scale X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:32:18 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:41:46 -0400 Derek Belrose wrote: > Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've inherited a fairly large > number of FreeBSD servers. All of them are running 6.3. > What is the recommended way of doing port management? Or if there > isn't a recommended way of updating ports on 10-15 servers, what do > people do? How do you handle port upgrades that deal with custom > compile configurations (such as exim with postgresql)? Do you build a > port on one system and install it as a package on all the others? > I come from a Slackware background, and in the past I would compile > the update on a test system then distribute and install to all the > other servers. You may take a look at ports-mgmt/tinderbox. It builds packages with custom configuration. Those packages may be installed by a "portupgrade -PP" command. We use a special 8-CURRENT tinderbox machine to build packages for 8-x, 7-x, 6-x FreeBSD versions. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 19:38:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED681065670 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F03E8FC1B for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so2032381mue.3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:38:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=szBW1AT2MgHRT0H4nw0gBpRMy0m4ec7Z+ZjDgDaPw9o=; b=Gqho9zUa/YTDndeMJY49T7HHHAKZNxZNThLas1MNFMSNF/KJw9pPl5K8lwboddKbnF vGXCTVfQx57o2zkYyRnKEVNDKlxIzce/JRm7QfqbX+ttGvFqtIPAarnXLPdZAbY0ZDtY 9LpgZ2ivdXb8EUCc+f/fDaQFsrh+8JvnXOkz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OsNBrGGJeyKFIidBtdBFKKuZ0FERDB7tdi/9UftNn6Z0Yv2otU9LbUr92gGNCp2G3L cHSIILwK32PkfQSMlB/ol9L5KfiplXUPg89Xh1EhRttnLCI6IAX3ow79+eEm0A32B5bc pM0iXrAsEyFVKvS0EtLuPGmawXnZUkchwy5Oc= Received: by 10.103.225.2 with SMTP id c2mr354217mur.93.1216928307934; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.198.9 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11167f520807241238q78a521b1kc5e3786428063e4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:38:27 -0500 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: stevefranks@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <539c60b90807241121y7443e860o87334bc7b8fc258e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> <20080724133225.0dd01e32@verizon.net> <539c60b90807241052t4f1c1be5w12c0997211f68159@mail.gmail.com> <20080724135644.08f303c4@verizon.net> <539c60b90807241121y7443e860o87334bc7b8fc258e@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , David Gurvich Subject: Re: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:30 -0000 > No error messages to speak of. It's like it's not there. It works > fine in all my older laptops as ath0, I should have mentioned earlier. > Really hating having bought a compaq. does your PCMICA slot even work in FreeBSD, I have a Lenovo Notebook that it doesn;t even work. maybe try sending a Full dmesg if you could. Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 19:50:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE571065674 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2E68FC08 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.16.163] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1KM6p9-000JJT-B8; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:50:03 +0400 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <488815E1.8080509@rawbw.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:49:00 +0400 In-Reply-To: <488815E1.8080509@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Wed\, 23 Jul 2008 22\:40\:49 -0700") Message-ID: <82156003@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to make Windows application run under emulator wine show UNICODE characters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:50:05 -0000 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:40:49 -0700 Yuri wrote: > All UNICODE characters show as small rectangles. With old wine versions I just install x11-fonts/webfonts or copy fonts form windows to ~/.fonts/... > Anybody knows which fonts should I install to cure this? but I had problems with recent wine and cyrillic fonts until I build wine using russian locale. I.e.: --- doesn't work --- $ su # cd /usr/ports/emulatiors/wine # make install --- works fine --- $ cd /usr/ports/emulators/wine $ sudo make install --- HTH and WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 20:43:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948191065670 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dell.vfemail.net [69.11.239.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B788FC19 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 63884 invoked by uid 89); 24 Jul 2008 20:43:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO inmail.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 20:43:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 63725 invoked by uid 89); 24 Jul 2008 20:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.20) by 0 with SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 20:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19156 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2008 20:42:41 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 19128, pid: 19152, t: 0.4499s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO bofh-enc.shahriars.net) (freebsd@vfemail.net@69.11.239.68) by mail.vfemail.net with ESMTPA; 24 Jul 2008 20:42:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4888F6E9.8040509@vfemail.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:40:57 +0000 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080531) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darko gavrilovic References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <82f3feb90807221747i3946fcb8w730f0aa72db156eb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <82f3feb90807221747i3946fcb8w730f0aa72db156eb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:43:03 -0000 Dear Darko Thanks for your mail. To answer your question, no, we are on the same network and from my machine everything is open. Also, I tried it from my home, which has the basic firewall allowing me to connect to whereever I want (I tried it with no firewall as well), nothing worked. Since my office lan can connect to the secured TServer using IE and other client from windows, and both my office lan and home can connect to the non-SSL TServer using rdesktop, I am suspecting I might be needing different client. any other pointers / links welcome Thanks darko gavrilovic wrote: > Hello, is 3389 filtered in any way between you and that server? > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, FreeBSD > wrote: > > Dear folks > > my sincere apologies if this has been discussed earlier, which I > seriously doubt, since even after googling for nearly five days I > couldn't find any solution. > > Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The > earlier 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop > worked for me without any problem. But now, as I try to connect to > the server, it simply gives me > ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer > > I know for a fact that the server is working fine, since all IE > and remote desktop softwares are working (they have to install the > certificate at the beginning, once). But how can I connect from my > freebsd box? > > any pointers/links sujjestions are highly welcome. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > > > -- > regards, > dg > > "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals > and shorts. > Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that > I was wrong. > You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 20:46:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E45106567A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4578FC1C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so1094862ana.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:46:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Kae44dZT2gpmW7Kl9tsbIsLW6p32hc7kawCPZ2g6Tio=; b=UXAkRsqTUAewbOBoME1ut5dzpMi2gnFvdSJOS5xnWG5up5Rxd59TCHWLX3RGrXOCiJ 5Vnn+HTnwu1MYeA+dkP5/VnUrRy9HyLx5zEfVPg2lcRNALvMbsyeAZVjd0LUGB5oxcQ8 XQt4K8ijdF611ZidiEBzpreSJ2ja2P5j3PXmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Ndr2zifECETOlsMEZl3F7bgSJ+sf0LhRdyraGGVMwIM1osgiIHYVvX1APvNZsxYr9q Hioj0SRwqhRhX5aTgcwfDwStMF+HaEUKeYyk9c1ur70cOp9jVreIVl7vyNcvKQrLHCmI yQ0ZXkjyN3Kkxv4vPGYhmL7TK7psm4I8UNMtA= Received: by 10.100.142.4 with SMTP id p4mr1345853and.23.1216932385204; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.92.3 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:46:25 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: stevefranks@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:46:26 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > The only stumbling block to ditching windows on my laptop is a network > card. I have a vanilla ath card that works fine under win32 and > fedora, as well as a lucent-branded wi card. Neither even appears in > dmesg when I put it in pccard0/cbb0. If I stick a compact flash card > in an adapter, however, it looks to work (haven't tried mounting it). > Anyway, how do I even start to debug this, since I have no output? I > notice one of the lights on the card flashes when I plug it in, but > that could just be part of it's power-up process... > > Eventually, I plan to hack my bios to get a "unsupported network card" > to run without locking up the bios boot process, but from what I've > read, that's alot of work... > > Thanks, > Steve > Have you checked the "Hardware Notes" for the version of FreeBSD that you're running? You can find links to the current versions' notes at: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ That might give you some indication of whether the item is supported and whether there is a kernel module that you need to load. Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 21:01:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08E81065675 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB09E8FC1A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so1355635wra.27 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=L28PirhCLIZ6KIh4UH2ybcTY+mz/XJ7jOi7hH7AJGRs=; b=xhp6r7km8Fr07o6sl9nCQDR+giqRJ3rMKHvj51mcV/YPL2kZUYu/DtPORLe07o9UnA 914zTnkeUqMeYf7S7+FYiATOGe7nkStdqBYqBDj5FCSn0S6SkwxG9EZJb5TkaLWWDEWR oVsTjRisPH7gquuzfxsEHgdkCsoEiHLPp1U+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=rmYWK70a7SBXk2NzDq9Xa6OMoycitLzzV5iClXEqC6kwrcPrFm8zVO8OxnqQuYavVZ Ob4DYE1kQl9EQSngBP9+HA6pgYm028aMzXg3kurIj8CUVurrEDj498zwN1FhZAIjtcmW JJmxrwSETsyMpy127e0VqMfzmJmV4qyXjtWjM= Received: by 10.100.41.4 with SMTP id o4mr1369693ano.34.1216933315821; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.13 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807241401ya3406bered41eeb9e941f797@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:01:55 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Sam Fourman Jr." In-Reply-To: <11167f520807241238q78a521b1kc5e3786428063e4a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90807241005q6ba03cecia6a11c6f9ec6ca1a@mail.gmail.com> <20080724133225.0dd01e32@verizon.net> <539c60b90807241052t4f1c1be5w12c0997211f68159@mail.gmail.com> <20080724135644.08f303c4@verizon.net> <539c60b90807241121y7443e860o87334bc7b8fc258e@mail.gmail.com> <11167f520807241238q78a521b1kc5e3786428063e4a@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b70ac0d7c1cc3b7b Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what do I do when a new piece of hardware doesn't even show up in dmesg? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:01:57 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> No error messages to speak of. It's like it's not there. It works >> fine in all my older laptops as ath0, I should have mentioned earlier. >> Really hating having bought a compaq. > > does your PCMICA slot even work in FreeBSD, I have a Lenovo Notebook > that it doesn;t even work. > maybe try sending a Full dmesg if you could. > > Sam Fourman Jr. > Slot seems to work with a compact-flash adapter. dmesg looks normal if you stick in a compact flash. There is no dmesg output whatsoever when you put in a network card. I would assume HP put some nifty code in the bios to disable it, except it works under win32 & fedora. Since there's no NIC, I'm not enclosing a dmesg. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 21:02:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0EA1065690 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D78598FC2C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 27539 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2008 21:02:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=DbgJeh1WN72kl0vS8lRnTLKtTcGrC7hiOcVjWtiUjgSiwXt9XUDVWvBJ8aoQE2EpFjgj2FOWt05p/bt8ywiTYDLcmrz02yWxI15xAvgqOgA7gb21bWreIEVorATyuLiSfv4Qtz1Z8ZwFaRUVKc019AQWu5dQMqnZJOyn+pmFefc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@99.224.65.182 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 21:02:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Cr2jBxgVM1msfUBeyYeRvt0RsBT4kiPPlUUqI9O_mpMmLS9by4BTU0vSHVXEKWwsoQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Tamouh H." To: "'FreeBSD'" References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net><82f3feb90807221747i3946fcb8w730f0aa72db156eb@mail.gmail.com> <4888F6E9.8040509@vfemail.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:01:37 -0400 Message-ID: <07dc01c8edd0$76d9e0f0$6900a8c0@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <4888F6E9.8040509@vfemail.net> Thread-Index: Acjtzfqwp/P0yuv3RyaLP++ZDx9HAgAAezNQ Cc: 'User Questions' Subject: RE: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:02:42 -0000 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of FreeBSD > Sent: July 24, 2008 5:41 PM > To: darko gavrilovic > Cc: User Questions > Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server >=20 > Dear Darko >=20 > Thanks for your mail. >=20 > To answer your question, no, we are on the same network and=20 > from my machine everything is open. Also, I tried it from my=20 > home, which has the basic firewall allowing me to connect to=20 > whereever I want (I tried it with no firewall as well),=20 > nothing worked. >=20 > Since my office lan can connect to the secured TServer using=20 > IE and other client from windows, and both my office lan and=20 > home can connect to the non-SSL TServer using rdesktop, I am=20 > suspecting I might be needing different client. >=20 > any other pointers / links welcome >=20 > Thanks >=20 >=20 > darko gavrilovic wrote: > > Hello, is 3389 filtered in any way between you and that server? > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, FreeBSD > > wrote: > > > > Dear folks > > > > my sincere apologies if this has been discussed earlier, which I > > seriously doubt, since even after googling for nearly=20 > five days I > > couldn't find any solution. > > > > Recently my company has updated their server to Windows=20 > 2003. The > > earlier 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop > > worked for me without any problem. But now, as I try to=20 > connect to > > the server, it simply gives me > > ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer > > > > I know for a fact that the server is working fine, since all IE > > and remote desktop softwares are working (they have to=20 > install the > > certificate at the beginning, once). But how can I=20 > connect from my > > freebsd box? > > > > any pointers/links sujjestions are highly welcome. > > > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > " > > > > > > > > > > -- > > regards, > > dg > > > > "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest=20 > in sandals=20 > > and shorts. > > Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and=20 > discovered that=20 > > I was wrong. > > You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 So I take it the encryption level on the TS server is set to High and = you're using a certificate, or is it just the security level is set to = High ? Which RDP version the server is running? I know there was a recent = update by MSFT for RDP connections, but I don't know if this fixes the = problem or not. Also, what version of rdpdesktop are you running? Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 21:30:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1F11065683 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8E78FC21 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so16190680agc.3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KRyD2r5UNJRMovNbm/e4eEF6mB6DTLTCVg8lN3MZVzY=; b=nEWKtXJd20wUZVnp7eI4+dKXOA1IWcOUKdalIFN6oOoVqOaSMd76Gw3oznMYVUxwUE Ur2izWfEegLdeOoNGpjr1h1ZvAPNd4U/HAi5CEiasrBl0jApmx5cNNTYhk2MbmaRRITP 6hh1+86OCSH0P8xGzCU+GF2XIuXzLoyOPEhXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=dU/Zb9Wj6mv7IgPkbHmyU1mF9MtNJYe8taH6wikLgP5KNXgqO+BBiruznqEv6QY7sr qYDj1CkIV2fm4wbNFzaOsbf2s8wa8Qi5riYA2fdMPCJQqhbIOb0jDsmPalCx2MPWRfpM cm57z1ENb5fH/5AZ1+BAGLXy4cdHAx8zijpos= Received: by 10.100.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr1383478ang.96.1216935027873; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.201.7 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f3feb90807241430lbf0dde9i76af5d6bd4a6f666@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:30:27 -0400 From: darko To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4888F6E9.8040509@vfemail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48867D4A.2050605@vfemail.net> <82f3feb90807221747i3946fcb8w730f0aa72db156eb@mail.gmail.com> <4888F6E9.8040509@vfemail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: connecting to a secured Windows 2003 terminal server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:30:29 -0000 What ver. of rdesktop are you running? Are you running the latest? sorry, I don't know enough about MS encryption or their TS services to suggest any advanced rdesktop tweaks. Wonder if you can run rdesktop in verbose mode and look at any logs it spews out. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:40 PM, FreeBSD wrote: > Dear Darko > > Thanks for your mail. > > To answer your question, no, we are on the same network and from my machine > everything is open. Also, I tried it from my home, which has the basic > firewall allowing me to connect to whereever I want (I tried it with no > firewall as well), nothing worked. > > Since my office lan can connect to the secured TServer using IE and other > client from windows, and both my office lan and home can connect to the > non-SSL TServer using rdesktop, I am suspecting I might be needing different > client. > > any other pointers / links welcome > > Thanks > > > > darko gavrilovic wrote: > > Hello, is 3389 filtered in any way between you and that server? > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM, FreeBSD wrote: > >> Dear folks >> >> my sincere apologies if this has been discussed earlier, which I seriously >> doubt, since even after googling for nearly five days I couldn't find any >> solution. >> >> Recently my company has updated their server to Windows 2003. The earlier >> 2000 server didn't have SSL enabled, so rdp/rdesktop worked for me without >> any problem. But now, as I try to connect to the server, it simply gives me >> ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer >> >> I know for a fact that the server is working fine, since all IE and remote >> desktop softwares are working (they have to install the certificate at the >> beginning, once). But how can I connect from my freebsd box? >> >> any pointers/links sujjestions are highly welcome. >> >> Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > regards, > dg > > "using fsdb(8) and clri(8) was like climbing Mount Everest in sandals and > shorts. > Since writing that, I've tried them more than once and discovered that I > was wrong. > You don't get the shorts." -- M.W. Lucas > > > -- regards, dg "..but the more you use clever tricks, the less support you'll get ..." -- M.W.Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 21:37:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A54F106564A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8608FC16 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darko.listsniffer@gmail.com) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 8so16193512agc.3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=RjFaRgmk5XLWldEaq4deORN0kBcXXbZPw3rhP0xi6dA=; b=EpZHEjkfn7eTYldJ1nj3AM+uW02uVacZIE2SV0xHHiSGdWfALYGS6r8Zq4dwJol6KW T/FOnmf23MhRnmTRUxCPw2vC7DV0koVTSwtdBEuZVvshdZIAbbe9x6388VsRelcD1GZP kmyHBbrZ/kld3Q6k33GIFeqvRssGBMGbvGJo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Zw2pY/4kf/ZOkE7QGjA9We2AZbdX//9Wzrmr+N2AdjAlszRVYMAJjE8RymIUx4D2WL uZNKnN6O3HD4k2VA7eym3HwdSZNn5WpC/TUw/wpao5Rk2nGTOl5JH0MMY80/y9dgYGh5 v6PhiW2IQps1rrZ0v07Zw8N7+nSjDhW1ONNdE= Received: by 10.100.227.20 with SMTP id z20mr1412553ang.62.1216935478130; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.201.7 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f3feb90807241437l23865361qa7314d3ea999ae1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:37:58 -0400 From: darko To: "Zamri Besar" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS and DHCP Management System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:37:59 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Zamri Besar wrote: > ... tools to manage a big deployment of dns and dhcp services? > > What do you mean by "big"? Or, how big is "big". -- regards, dg "..but the more you use clever tricks, the less support you'll get ..." -- M.W.Lucas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 22:47:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD291065672 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02BB8FC12 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so1120750ana.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=IN5tmNE2QHuetK5VGGeTPYv6Me7heE3I+L+j4SBe+xQ=; b=oh8yeojA1BoEu9iKc0dvgpzQGOdcWHa60uuix++01zov5UF1DaHfBfnKH9yPlolyDg KCfyWI4otv/mIjwwkfmJmU2BvruHb994aZb+3hwApDtaOKiv+K21JTKd4iBOa3gUjny6 0l/kOuaGHpnsUKjn/opU9YimjFDpDy/5vnEPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :x-google-sender-auth; b=qoXxz7DTwY8/TIc1z+Xc2hxPA/FeqnN7MEfQCmGV5IaVcE+VVfps3Bm3KAK2Td3Fju 0uZcMBNiyyS+2RBqPXCm58XKnMk/GGHc7z/uSdxlU58/qMBhiioVqS58rmE0NjxEKZLg EPIMKQVWUdK4mZilHUA7Fq78eykETyQ2SSV9w= Received: by 10.100.31.3 with SMTP id e3mr1548928ane.64.1216939677766; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.13 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807241547x6abefbaepc8ce9a84784b44d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:57 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7adbdf76e0767286 Subject: new vanilla system fails to install many packages/ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:47:59 -0000 I must be missing something obvious. About 25% of my dependencies fail to install with errors like: "install-info: /usr/local/info/dir: empty file" "pkg-add: command 'install-info --quiet /blah.info' failed" system is 7.0/i386 Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 23:56:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28E6106564A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AE28FC15 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:56:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6ONuKcG072267; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:56:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id HKBReYprxuoG; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:56:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6ONuD14072262; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:56:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <48891697.707@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:56:07 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90807241547x6abefbaepc8ce9a84784b44d5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90807241547x6abefbaepc8ce9a84784b44d5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: new vanilla system fails to install many packages/ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:56:22 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > I must be missing something obvious. About 25% of my dependencies > fail to install with errors like: > > "install-info: /usr/local/info/dir: empty file" > "pkg-add: command 'install-info --quiet /blah.info' failed" > > system is 7.0/i386 > > Steve "info" is GNU-related. Any reason that GNU-stuff, esp. "info", wouldn't have been installed/built thus far? (I dunno, but, maybe a csup with the GNU stuff rejected or commented out ...) And anything these ports have in common (assuming they're all GNU for starters). They aren't Linuxolator stuff? Always ready to help grasp straws, Kevin Kinsey -- Zero Defects, n.: The result of shutting down a production line. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 00:12:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D12106567A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9554E8FC19 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 17263 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2008 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from 203-166-248-146.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO ayiin) (203.166.248.146) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 19:12:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:12:42 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: FreeBSD Questions ML Message-ID: <20080725101242.64fdabc1@ayiin> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [OT ? ] getting stats out of network capture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:12:48 -0000 hi all, apologies for the OT (but maybe it isn't so much). I'm interested in knowing the application level RTT for a HTTP application - ie, not from SYN , SYN/ACK ... FIN , FIN/ACK , but from the POST (http.request in wireshark) by an app on my side to the response by the server (http.response). I have no access to either app's code. I haven't been able how to do this in wireshark - other than resetting the time in each http.request and matching to the returning http.response...which doesn't scale at all :P Is there a tool out there that would help , or preferred method to approach this kind of task? TIA! B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." Charles Darwin. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 00:29:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68138106566C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5628FC0A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so1429015wra.27 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:29:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=fENUU8hL91BbM8Y8nn56ieVj1k3aO9r4qtt853eX9Hs=; b=LV+IMTWBCO0ccnbDDqRl9A1srf5GPDOnFNL3AwT3MRW/tvZO1n5Q94Itr1EudZjIm5 WC6f/YYCsVqXxQS3Ru5pjxvkw7+14+AEQh4xUOVNNWZg83tDgap67NdaZrEHrZWS6Qah i+VIXc704gypGLdy/0RLEQGnqK0ZCxwTgKaNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=v/7bm+2zuqzKpjhhgRkQJEm/sC70AuXaqewmjkxxBWo3Dn3mvGeeTy57ldvizAzGbK NBdxQClX4C8Plr5lJlCb+aIbo4iGQ6pD/T+AvZGKdBH6QxRhPpk2ojZfIP8gWHerzX6j U5rHPfZe5XQTaUhzUAi348fWywoaEdSuhuyiQ= Received: by 10.90.87.7 with SMTP id k7mr1147824agb.115.1216945780409; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.50.13 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90807241729y6d88e899g5d2acd739c6ad65e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:29:40 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Kevin Kinsey" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <48891697.707@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90807241547x6abefbaepc8ce9a84784b44d5@mail.gmail.com> <48891697.707@daleco.biz> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f6608a9503c5d1ca Cc: Subject: Re: new vanilla system fails to install many packages/ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:42 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Steve Franks wrote: >> >> I must be missing something obvious. About 25% of my dependencies >> fail to install with errors like: >> >> "install-info: /usr/local/info/dir: empty file" >> "pkg-add: command 'install-info --quiet /blah.info' failed" >> >> system is 7.0/i386 >> >> Steve > > "info" is GNU-related. Any reason that GNU-stuff, esp. > "info", wouldn't have been installed/built thus far? > (I dunno, but, maybe a csup with the GNU stuff rejected > or commented out ...) > All I did was a "developer" (not x developer) sysinstall off 7.0 disk 1. No tweaking, hacking, or extra packages until I got a clean boot onto the new disk. I'm somewhere between user and power user. I have 5 running freebsd systems under my belt, and was going to do my laptop (I've given up on it several times already - bloody compaq). > And anything these ports have in common (assuming they're > all GNU for starters). They aren't Linuxolator stuff? > Seems to me, they all use gnuinfo instead of manpages? I don't even know what gnuinfo is, nor linuxulator. (!) Bison won't even install (makes fine, but install fails), and that's pretty darn basic, no? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 00:42:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246F31065679 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2848FC13 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A019358A251; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 351BB28088; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:05 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-aba04bb000000ece-aa-4889215dac49 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 142462802F; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <40515BC3-EB63-4A74-9A4F-B91A6C1D1B4D@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20080725101242.64fdabc1@ayiin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:04 -0700 References: <20080725101242.64fdabc1@ayiin> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: FreeBSD Questions ML Subject: Re: [OT ? ] getting stats out of network capture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:42:10 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 24, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Norberto Meijome wrote: > I'm interested in knowing the application level RTT for a HTTP > application - > ie, not from SYN , SYN/ACK ... FIN , FIN/ACK , but from the POST > (http.request > in wireshark) by an app on my side to the response by the server > (http.response). I have no access to either app's code. Try something like this on the webserver or client machine: # tcpdump -ttt -q -n -A tcp port 80 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on fxp0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 000000 IP 17.227.140.124.49729 > 199.103.21.227.80: tcp 488 E....K@./.%....|.g...A.P.4`...&8...."c..... 9".,....GET /server-status HTTP/1.1 H 001348 IP 199.103.21.227.80 > 17.227.140.124.49729: tcp 1448 E....Y@.@....g.....|.P.A..&8.4b.....J...... ....9".,HTTP/1.1 200 OK ...which indicates a delay of 1.348 ms from the HTTP GET to the HTTP 200 response. This is using the following "delta timestamp" mode; -ttt Print a delta (in micro-seconds) between current and previous line on each dump line.) If you use tcpdump -w to save the packets captured to a file for analysis, you can feed it to net/tcpflow port to reconstruct this into individual flows, which will make it easier to figure out if your traffic starts getting interleaved. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:26:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D501065673 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A7E08FC15 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 81234 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2008 02:26:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Lf83FZNs73bp81zfwm+qyHW595nybJZZdqsnV+C4e1z7UAH0NyhL4kVJHQhxzi/6yRkWlJCkjhMF969eK0rLTlFXx0Pd9+xpdAaYOeUUgM6cvL0lF+P7iKsH8S1eMxnjyxOanX28rSk83lXNXcL8y33KVqti3iJDNV1IyEuachQ=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:26:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Spamassasin running as root! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:26:07 -0000 Hi guys, My maillog complain like this: Jul 25 09:40:06 MAIL spamd[67623]: spamd: still running as root: user not s= pecified with -u, not found, or set to root, falling back to nobody Jul 25 09:40:13 MAIL spamd[67623]: auto-whitelist: open of auto-whitelist f= ile failed: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /nonexistent/.spa= massassin/auto-whitelist.lock.MAIL.67623 for /nonexistent/.spamassassin/aut= o-whitelist.lock: No such file or directory I google it and found out that i need to run spamd with '-u ' flag. >From BSD guide website spamd has a flag of=A0 '-u qscand'. However, there i= s no detail on how the qscand user has been created. How to create a user for spamd correctly or securely?=A0 =20 =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:37:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5101106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6133C8FC08 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 31120 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2008 21:37:27 -0500 Received: from 203-166-248-146.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO ayiin) (203.166.248.146) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 21:37:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:37:22 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080725123722.3f2263d0@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <40515BC3-EB63-4A74-9A4F-B91A6C1D1B4D@mac.com> References: <20080725101242.64fdabc1@ayiin> <40515BC3-EB63-4A74-9A4F-B91A6C1D1B4D@mac.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OT ? ] getting stats out of network capture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:37:27 -0000 On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:04 -0700 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Try something like this on the webserver or client machine: > > # tcpdump -ttt -q -n -A tcp port 80 Excellent, thanks Chuck. I haven't got access to the server, and the client has to run on a win32 ... so i'll figure out how to tcpdump on w32 or howto in wireshark gui. thanks again! B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you." Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983) I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:50:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B62106564A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-amd64@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443A98FC12 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-amd64@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2008 22:21:52 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KCZ43119; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO mail.skepsi.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2008 22:21:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 85729 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2008 02:21:16 -0000 Received: from numbuscus.skepsi.net (10.0.0.2) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 2008 02:21:16 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 3015 invoked by uid 1000); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:20:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:20:36 -0400 From: "Jason W\. Morgan" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080725022036.GC1283@sentinelchicken.net> References: <6199c3dc0807241449s758625esc79ae127abcaf750@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6199c3dc0807241449s758625esc79ae127abcaf750@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt/1.5.18 (FreeBSD/amd64) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020B.488938B4.008F,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 FAMP Server RAM problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:50:34 -0000 On 2008.07.24 17:49:56, Benjamin Adams wrote: > Hello everyone. I'm running a website (http://www.FreeBSD-World.com/) When > the RAM is used up and moves to inactive the pages stop loading 100%. > Pages will stop halfway and sometimes I will get a display of what is in the > httpd.access log. Just to clarify: the user accessing the page will get the contents of http.access displayed to them? ~Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:52:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D078106564A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB55F8FC14 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70565 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2008 02:52:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=DeEaKcrtM1IG2XnJNIDxenErstQQ783h1xzkSc3sHZ28UuSeJqVGq0xvR2ifmrEeXK9ELhBu3AdQy+W8q/EohFaY6Cfq4ZVW4vI1oUIiNQnavZLhKXOQM4glXF6Bdc8a9ttvxJ6Ns2LCLBby8QnwVw7oijso0UG48UrTBPph3Q0=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:51:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:51:59 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <947760.69683.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com, brian@brianwhalen.net Subject: Re: Spamassasin running as root! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:52:01 -0000 Thanks guy! Regards, alydmc From: pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com man (8) pw pw useradd qscand -s /sbin/nologin From: brian@brianwhalen.net What do you have in /etc/rc.conf, I have spamd_enable="YES" spamd_flags="-u spamd -H /var/spool/spamd" In my case, the spamd user got created automagically. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:58:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADACE106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.127]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 556DB8FC18 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 86761 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2008 02:58:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ROijxYwN0BH89JEX/qUwOR6vB9aDHSmRvm9mNA0b4rTlf2AL03gPxN8rO9ZbMsORYXnLrrJGuCmH/ECZOoNmP6K6FLSfmMXWPrUElwEHmE3k3Ism5Ir0ElGo4lTVBAmNhWR9l/BHPmQLqXUuIDSDeAvtQdgisc8pWoRZgMqDL18=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:58:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:58:40 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <353527.85988.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamassasin running as root! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:41 -0000 Thnx chuck. =A0 I use ports to install p5-Mail-SpamAssassin, and I have also spamd user. I = will try Brian config. =20 Regards, alydmc >From brian@brianwhalen.net:=20 What do you have in /etc/rc.conf, I have spamd_enable=3D"YES" spamd_flags=3D"-u spamd -H /var/spool/spamd" In my case, the spamd user got created automagically. --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Chuck Swiger wrote: From: Chuck Swiger Subject: Re: Spamassasin running as root! To: alydiomc@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 10:37 AM On Jul 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, lyd mc wrote: > How to create a user for spamd correctly or securely? You should have had a spamd user & group created automatically from /=20 usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin/pkg-install. If you aren't using =20 ports, well, you should start doing so. Regards, --=20 -Chuck=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:58:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F031065679 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout020.mac.com (asmtpout020.mac.com [17.148.16.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4988C8FC23 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [10.152.145.166] ([72.165.115.225]) by asmtp020.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4J00BH7JADNW60@asmtp020.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: cswiger@mac.com Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: alydiomc@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:25 -0700 References: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamassasin running as root! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:58:54 -0000 On Jul 24, 2008, at 7:26 PM, lyd mc wrote: > How to create a user for spamd correctly or securely? You should have had a spamd user & group created automatically from / usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin/pkg-install. If you aren't using ports, well, you should start doing so. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 02:59:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921A1106564A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8E38FC14 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [192.168.12.103] (dsl093-034-235.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6P2bj4b044752; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <48893C71.90505@brianwhalen.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:37 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alydiomc@yahoo.com References: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamassasin running as root! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:59:31 -0000 lyd mc wrote: > Hi guys, > > My maillog complain like this: > > Jul 25 09:40:06 MAIL spamd[67623]: spamd: still running as root: user not specified with -u, not found, or set to root, falling back to nobody > > Jul 25 09:40:13 MAIL spamd[67623]: auto-whitelist: open of auto-whitelist file failed: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /nonexistent/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock.MAIL.67623 for /nonexistent/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock: No such file or directory > > I google it and found out that i need to run spamd with '-u ' flag. > > >From BSD guide website spamd has a flag of '-u qscand'. However, there is no detail on how the qscand user has been created. > > How to create a user for spamd correctly or securely? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What do you have in /etc/rc.conf, I have spamd_enable="YES" spamd_flags="-u spamd -H /var/spool/spamd" In my case, the spamd user got created automagically. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 03:05:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC951065677 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0851a84a8@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877968FC0A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=0851a84a8@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,250,1215406800"; d="scan'208";a="5074822" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2008 21:36:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.102] (cpe-24-175-90-48.tx.res.rr.com [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AFCD23DDF; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:32 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: alydiomc@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <245310B42F59D20E86DD2857@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <677836.81175.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========7F5C7E520B4D6B22C257==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Spamassasin running as root! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:05:16 -0000 --==========7F5C7E520B4D6B22C257========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On July 24, 2008 7:26:06 PM -0700 lyd mc wrote: > Hi guys, > > My maillog complain like this: > > Jul 25 09:40:06 MAIL spamd[67623]: spamd: still running as root: user > not specified with -u, not found, or set to root, falling back to nobody > > Jul 25 09:40:13 MAIL spamd[67623]: auto-whitelist: open of > auto-whitelist file failed: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp > lockfile /nonexistent/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock.MAIL.67623 for > /nonexistent/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lock: No such file or = directory > > I google it and found out that i need to run spamd with '-u ' = flag. > >> From BSD guide website spamd has a flag of=C2=A0 '-u qscand'. However, >> there is no detail on how the qscand user has been created. > > How to create a user for spamd correctly or securely?=C2=A0 > man (8) pw pw useradd qscand -s /sbin/nologin Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========7F5C7E520B4D6B22C257==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 03:35:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F0F106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BE798FC14 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56470 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2008 03:35:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=6gU9mtpd60kIgFj3H1/PREM3Rudk1Vi6TYLZEd2vf5Rz9BduwGKfgvjI25f79qPunGBRBYHnMzAHldhEvGxJyX4cZFCfW599/2th5zuSje8FPSXzBurRRKWEUWGvZnG2uLrgcWakqo5smYglLMzEq+86i34LK7Sw7pD2+QiEduU=; Received: from [202.57.64.100] by web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:35:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:35:16 -0700 (PDT) From: lyd mc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <454479.56449.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: spamassasin root file permission X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: alydiomc@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:35:18 -0000 Hi guys, I still have this kind of error: Jul 25 11:08:25 MAIL spamd[78027]: spamd: connection from localhost [127.0.= 0.1] at port 63402 Jul 25 11:08:25 MAIL spamd[78027]: spamd: processing message <000a01c8ee06$= 05adac19$acda2098@jjwho> for root:58 Jul 25 11:08:31 MAIL spamd[78027]: auto-whitelist: open of auto-whitelist f= ile failed: locker: safe_lock: cannot create tmp lockfile /root/.spamassass= in/auto-whitelist.lock.MAIL.78027 for /root/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist.lo= ck: Permission denied Jul 25 11:08:31 MAIL spamd[78027]: spamd: identified spam (11.4/5.0) for ro= ot:58 in 6.0 seconds, 4966 bytes. Jul 25 11:08:31 MAIL spamd[78027]: spamd: result: Y 11 - HTML_MESSAGE,RAZOR= 2_CF_RANGE_51_100,RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100,RAZOR2_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP= _NET,RCVD_IN_PBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RCVD_IN_XBL,RDNS_NONE,URIBL_AB_SURBL,URI= BL_RED scantime=3D6.0,size=3D4966,user=3Droot,uid=3D58,required_score=3D5.0= ,rhost=3Dlocalhost,raddr=3D127.0.0.1,rport=3D63402,mid=3D<000a01c8ee06$05ad= ac19$acda2098@jjwho>,autolearn=3Dno my spamd ran like this: =A0/usr/local/bin/spamd -u spamd -H /var/spool/spamd -d -r -m 20 --round-ro= bin\ /var/run/spamd/spamd.pid /usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -f -p /var/run/spamass-milter.sock Should I also run spamass-milter as '-u spamd -H /var/spool/smapd'? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:12:03 -0000 Hi, I have an Asus A6JE laptop which has an Intel T5600 CPU. It is currently configured as i386 with CPUTYPE=prescott. But after reading wikipedia, I get the idea that I have slightly underconfigured my box, i.e. that a better configuration is possible. dmesg says (7.0-release): CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 2147287040 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2095947776 (1998 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard acpi0: <_ASUS_ Notebook> on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 coretemp0: on cpu0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 6130b2406000b24 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 ACPI Warning (tbutils-0243): Incorrect checksum in table [SSDT] - 77, should be 2C [20070320] coretemp1: on cpu1 est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD features? 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:27:27 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:45:40AM +0200, Rene Ladan wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have an Asus A6JE laptop which has an Intel T5600 CPU. It is > currently configured as i386 > with CPUTYPE=3Dprescott. But after reading wikipedia, I get the idea > that I have slightly > underconfigured my box, i.e. that a better configuration is possible. > dmesg says (7.0-release): >=20 > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686-cla= ss CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x6f6 Stepping =3D 6 > Features=3D0xbfebfbff > Features2=3D0xe3bd > AMD Features=3D0x20100000 > AMD Features2=3D0x1 > Cores per package: 2 No it's configured correctly. See /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk > Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD feat= ures? If you want amd64, you should have installed the amd64 architecture. But remember that some ports (e.g. flash plugin) are only available for the i386 architecture. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:05:56 -0000 2008/7/25 Roland Smith : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:45:40AM +0200, Rene Ladan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have an Asus A6JE laptop which has an Intel T5600 CPU. It is >> currently configured as i386 >> with CPUTYPE=prescott. But after reading wikipedia, I get the idea >> that I have slightly >> underconfigured my box, i.e. that a better configuration is possible. >> dmesg says (7.0-release): >> >> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 >> Features=0xbfebfbff >> Features2=0xe3bd >> AMD Features=0x20100000 >> AMD Features2=0x1 >> Cores per package: 2 > > No it's configured correctly. See /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk > >> Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD features? > > If you want amd64, you should have installed the amd64 architecture. But It seems to be amd64-capable: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-649410.html Side-grading seems quite hard :( : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2004-December/003008.html > remember that some ports (e.g. flash plugin) are only available for the > i386 architecture. Flash is available for amd64 if you use swfdec :) Probably not worth the hassle, maybe when 7.1 gets released. Regards, Rene -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 09:16:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71700106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363DB8FC18 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1789754wah.3 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:16:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Bf2zDJaxVrVkhjYihT6MltuL8WBLGb3gcNhL1SgbYdg=; b=N9r5I9fnO7/K6r949hjOeAv4qK0o7u0YRIb56wP9GQxltGr9L8yKh5gqZ3y7yRzjde dE/zqMm4Rv6/PMgrFH983zmrRCXBv0ScFZ/HMoGOFuaFkw/8C6+tZN6rq5fNHt3eTtfO rSys2R6FlH8b4HoZ/USG1k2E3b/TI78rZKcBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=a+ONQ9zJVihkjzt3XxtdbwVCo8jeVbqscQR1iMx9z4c5J3So0XmA6iQrkp39UGlUlg lXeA2UNOBD4Pep2jQdigW7wtqzn7XZYhvaXw3wnSZ5ZO6M+SS0ER/inGZ+pOgqF0Axf1 OYYUCQdCZrJFH4rEgXmOFchRtpLHsDpMDPIBk= Received: by 10.114.57.1 with SMTP id f1mr1620555waa.46.1216977362674; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.94.8 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:16:02 +0200 From: "Rene Ladan" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080725082654.GA20013@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:16:03 -0000 2008/7/25 Rene Ladan : > 2008/7/25 Roland Smith : >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:45:40AM +0200, Rene Ladan wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have an Asus A6JE laptop which has an Intel T5600 CPU. It is >>> currently configured as i386 >>> with CPUTYPE=prescott. But after reading wikipedia, I get the idea >>> that I have slightly >>> underconfigured my box, i.e. that a better configuration is possible. >>> dmesg says (7.0-release): >>> >>> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686-class CPU) >>> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 >>> Features=0xbfebfbff >>> Features2=0xe3bd >>> AMD Features=0x20100000 >>> AMD Features2=0x1 >>> Cores per package: 2 >> >> No it's configured correctly. See /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk >> >>> Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD features? >> >> If you want amd64, you should have installed the amd64 architecture. But > It seems to be amd64-capable: > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-649410.html > Side-grading seems quite hard :( : > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2004-December/003008.html > >> remember that some ports (e.g. flash plugin) are only available for the >> i386 architecture. > Flash is available for amd64 if you use swfdec :) > > Probably not worth the hassle, maybe when 7.1 gets released. > I guess I would have to rebuild all ports after the upgrade, or is it possible to run i386 ports on an amd64 box? Because userland needs to be rebuilt... Regards, Rene -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 09:26:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14D810656C5 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20B38FC08 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6P9QbUU005196; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:26:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6P9Qagp005193; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:26:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:26:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Rene Ladan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080725112623.Y5078@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:26:47 -0000 > cpu1: on acpi0 > ACPI Warning (tbutils-0243): Incorrect checksum in table [SSDT] - 77, should be > 2C [20070320] > coretemp1: on cpu1 > est1: on cpu1 > p4tcc1: on cpu1 > > Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD features? > not maybe but indeed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 09:46:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C62106566C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA7E8FC16 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6P9ke1F005395 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6P9keX3005392 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:46:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080725114402.G5386@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: graid3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:48 -0000 i read the graid3 manual and http://www.acnc.com/04_01_03.html to make sure i know what's RAID3 and i don't understand few things. 1) "The number of components must be equal to 3, 5, 9, 17, etc. (2^n + 1)." why it can't be say 5 disks+parity? 2) "-r Use parity component for reading in round-robin fashion. "Without this option the parity component is not used at all for reading operations when the device is in a complete state. With this option specified random I/O read operations are even 40% faster , but sequential reads are slower. One cannot use this option if the -w option is also specified." how parity disk could speed up random I/O? is there any description of how graid3 actually works? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 10:01:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93520106567D for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicodache@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9988FC19 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicodache@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4021644rvf.43 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Rh2qXwbQ+WeUxveBAnoeyXYFqg2+nJEsguX9ek6rkZo=; b=QSaZo7JLEwgHhv2BvrZDmsvlI8cf4s2yylP+ul5Tc+bDNhJhQhbtsVwLFZ2WMe/j7k 5hRwyAWuqmybuC7/zuV/9JXPTZlz1TyjlMHopzmAhK8Ga5fACu6Op9RKgGKTjRRP10Rd 4HcASF+VfbUuug+2e6PG5NoQQawDqfE5K28rU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=j+vN8dJ4yYYb3IW7urf/qc3xvtRilDeT3jFQyesnPnPTY68W2uRmR1wzlQqrgzapot AAj5FpZllsWFibeBjAv2NBoIV0htp3WbfSMs8Ol0ITSbclF0vWw3Oc67peAJODe7vYRL 2gNW/3JbekdvFiFazNuWiFGYSt/ubYqRPQGHw= Received: by 10.141.136.19 with SMTP id o19mr769412rvn.281.1216980101662; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.19.11 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82029aed0807250301h638f6243u5c435dcfaaac7d9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:01:41 +0200 From: nicodache To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080725114402.G5386@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080725114402.G5386@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Subject: Re: graid3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:01:42 -0000 Hello, 1. I don't see such a thing on the weblink you gave (acnc) In my opinion, this rule is pure nonsense, as raid 3 just use a separate drive to store stripe parity. You just need at least 3 drives, one for parity, 2 for data. you can do raid 3 with how many drives you want. 2. because the raid controler/software thing can reconstruct the data with only n-1 of the n drives in the array. in random IO this can be quite usefull, while in sequential read, the parity drive is not that much of use. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i read the graid3 manual and http://www.acnc.com/04_01_03.html to make sure > i know what's RAID3 and i don't understand few things. > > 1) > > "The number of components must be equal to 3, 5, 9, 17, etc. > (2^n + 1)." > > why it can't be say 5 disks+parity? > > 2) "-r Use parity component for reading in round-robin fashion. > "Without this option the parity component is not used at > all for reading operations when the device is in a complete state. > With this option specified random I/O read operations are even 40% faster > , but sequential reads are slower. One cannot use this option if the -w > option is also specified." > > > how parity disk could speed up random I/O? > > > is there any description of how graid3 actually works? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 10:26:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A2F1065672 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47EB8FC19 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PAQPib050887; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:26:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E900BAA0; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:26:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:26:25 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Rene Ladan Message-ID: <20080725102625.GA23179@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20080725082654.GA20013@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:26:27 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:16:02AM +0200, Rene Ladan wrote: > >>> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686= -class CPU) > >>> Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x6f6 Stepping =3D 6 > >>> Features=3D0xbfebfbff > >>> Features2=3D0xe3bd > >>> AMD Features=3D0x20100000 > >>> AMD Features2=3D0x1 > >>> Cores per package: 2 > >> > >> No it's configured correctly. See /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk > >> > >>> Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD = features? > >> > >> If you want amd64, you should have installed the amd64 architecture. B= ut > > It seems to be amd64-capable: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-649410.html > > Side-grading seems quite hard :( : > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2004-December/003008.h= tml The easiest way to update is to make a backup of your data and then reinstall the amd64 version. > I guess I would have to rebuild all ports after the upgrade,=20 Yes, that would be best. Make a list of all installed ports (e.g. with portmaster -L), delete all ports and install the so-called root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) and leaf ports (have dependencies, not depended on) again. > or is it possible to run i386 ports on an amd64 box?=20 It is possible, but I've never bothered trying it. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:45:22 -0000 Hello, I am buying hardware for a FreeBSD server and me and my friend argue about whether or not to by ECC RAM for the server. It is a HP ProLiant ML110 G4 machine and currently it has 2 x 512 HP DDR2 ECC memory. My friend says buying ECC memory is not wise, because we would not profit from it since this server will not need very high availability (but still we'd like to make it a solid server). And also that ECC memory slows down memory operations by 2-3% all together. Also, we would profit from buying non-ECC memory because we already have 2 x 1GB non-ECC memory and if we: - buy extra 2 x 1GB non-ECC memory we'll have 4GB all together (4 x 1GB) - buy extra 2 x 1GB ECC memory we'll have 3GB all together (2 x 512MB + 2 x 1GB) 1. So, what would you base your decision on? Is getting ECC worth losing 1GB of non-ECC memory? 2. What are your experiences with ECC? 3. Did self-halt because of a memory error (having ECC memory) ever happen to someone here? 4. If there is non-ECC memory installed, how does FreeBSD recognizes (corrects?) memory errors? Thanks, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 11:56:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0E21065679 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01388FC21 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.162]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:46:12 -0400 id 00056472.4889BD04.0000A3D8 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:45:26 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: setuid not working on directories, or am I doing something wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:56:20 -0000 $ whoami wmoran $ mkdir test2 $ sudo chown daemon:daemon test2 $ sudo chmod 6777 test2 $ ls -lah | grep test2 drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:40 test2 $ touch test2/testfile.empty $ ls -lah test2 total 8 drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:41 . drwxr-xr-x 59 wmoran wheel 6.0K Jul 25 07:40 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 wmoran daemon 0B Jul 25 07:41 testfile.empty Shouldn't testfile.empty show up as daemon:daemon? or am I misunderstanding something about how setuid works? This is on FreeBSD 7, but I observe the same thing on 6.3 and 6.2. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ wmoran@collaborativefusion.com Phone: 412-422-3463x4023 **************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:17:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9B01065671 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5F08FC1B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000023c00000114-de-4889c4587c25 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:17:28 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080725123722.3f2263d0@ayiin> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OT ? ] getting stats out of network capture Thread-Index: Acjt/0b1YmH9SWERSFSNgf26fpvw1wAT/+0g References: <20080725101242.64fdabc1@ayiin><40515BC3-EB63-4A74-9A4F-B91A6C1D1B4D@mac.com> <20080725123722.3f2263d0@ayiin> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: [OT ? ] getting stats out of network capture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:04 -0000 On Behalf Of Norberto Meijome >On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:04 -0700 >Chuck Swiger wrote: >=20 >> Try something like this on the webserver or client machine: >>=20 >> # tcpdump -ttt -q -n -A tcp port 80 >=20 > Excellent, thanks Chuck. > I haven't got access to the server, and the client has to > run on a win32 ... so i'll figure out how to tcpdump on w32 > or howto in wireshark gui. On MS-Windows, the easiest option is to download and install Wireshark 1.0, which will also install Winpcap. It gives you the option of installing Winpcap as a system service, which enables it for all users, even the non-admin types. When you use it, if possible, always tie it to the NIC, not the NDIS layer. A lot of traffic is sidetracked before it gets to NDIS. In some cases where the NIC is not supported, we have found that the only traffic Wireshark can capture is what is left after every other process has received theirs. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:22:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832CA106566C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C088FC08; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4889C580.1090303@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:22:24 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> In-Reply-To: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: arlequinlist@tnode.com, User Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:22:25 -0000 Nejc koberne wrote: > 4. If there is non-ECC memory installed, how does FreeBSD recognizes > (corrects?) > memory errors? By crashing or corrupting data, of course. Not doing this is what ECC is for :) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:41:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC02A1065679 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F29C8FC0C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KMMbl-0007Zd-JU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:17 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.95.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:17 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:17 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:42:54 -0400 Lines: 73 Message-ID: References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:41:20 -0000 Nejc koberne wrote: > Hello, > > I am buying hardware for a FreeBSD server and me and my friend argue about > whether or not to by ECC RAM for the server. It is a HP ProLiant ML110 G4 > machine and currently it has 2 x 512 HP DDR2 ECC memory. > > My friend says buying ECC memory is not wise, because we would not profit > from it since this server will not need very high availability (but still > we'd like to make it a solid server). And also that ECC memory slows down > memory operations by 2-3% all together. Also, we would profit from buying > non-ECC memory because we already have 2 x 1GB non-ECC memory and if we: > > - buy extra 2 x 1GB non-ECC memory we'll have 4GB all together (4 x 1GB) > - buy extra 2 x 1GB ECC memory we'll have 3GB all together (2 x 512MB + > 2 x 1GB) > > 1. So, what would you base your decision on? Is getting ECC worth losing > 1GB of non-ECC memory? My decision would be based upon what the server was going to be used for. Home use, or non "mission critical" I'd say non-ECC is just fine. At work for "mission critical" database, mail, etc I stick with ECC. Especially when it comes to Windows, as Windows has a nasty habit of trying to mask what's going on behind the scene. No way I'd run a large SQL database or Exchange server without ECC. I'd be more concerned with trying to buy all the memory at the same time so the sticks were all identical, especially with regard to timing and speed ratings. You can create a problem when you have stick(s) from one manufacturer then add in different ones later. IMHO, in this particular situation, my "gut" feeling from your description would be to go with the 4GB of non-ECC as it sounds like the scenario doesn't match the criteria I use for justifying ECC as a "must have". > 2. What are your experiences with ECC? > 3. Did self-halt because of a memory error (having ECC memory) ever happen > to someone here? If it does you have defective hardware that is in need of replacement. Yes, I have had bad RAM; whether it's ECC or non-ECC isn't the issue when it is simply defective. > 4. If there is non-ECC memory installed, how does FreeBSD recognizes > (corrects?) memory errors? > Generally speaking this occurs more at the hardware level. Non-ECC RAM can correct single bit errors while ECC is capable of fixing multi-bit errors. However, should I become aware that ECC was "fixing" too many errors too often I would consider there to be defective hardware present. The purpose of these schemes is to compensate for the fact that in every so many (some large number) of memory transactions there may be a bit that gets flipped. If this is happening more often than (some large number) then there is a defect present. ECC just buys you "uptime" in the event there are more errors than there should be. In either case these bit flips should only happen extremely infrequently, if ever at all. Consider that these schemes are sort of a fallback to an extreme "what if" situation and really shouldn't come into play during most nominal operations. I would go with ECC for something that just had to stay "up" even in the face or errors. In either case I'd still replace the defective component(s), irregardless of whether they were ECC or not. I've seen thousands of machines with non-ECC RAM over the last 15 years that worked just fine. Just my $.02 here. YMMV and all other standard disclaimers apply. :-) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:46:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581C1106567D for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB7A8FC23 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6PCkYgT006043; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:46:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6PCkXVW006040; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:46:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:46:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= In-Reply-To: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> Message-ID: <20080725144623.Y6038@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: arlequinlist@tnode.com, User Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:46:45 -0000 > 4. If there is non-ECC memory installed, how does FreeBSD recognizes > (corrects?) > memory errors? it's not OS job, but hardware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:47:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1D51065679 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7701C8FC19 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1832999wah.3 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:47:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aIF2c/vzjVCkzJ54r/VOFQ1paRJV27BwR09XXqQe3wE=; b=upX0G72xNYW2zoRzSciSIC9MW8JeKDyAmGvpdUF5TOHUl6qVSs8GlYhfzz5yvJo/eY oC8KF3DPofLnjN5L+OvUYPTAeNjrbqQoZkr8XrSkiOq2+jBIQeI1P1HExzeo0MutoVMf kINBU1sxyeLG5/XpTNOcU9ze1rF4eUC2n1co0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=dWRGyt5pD/obi46Ip2/m1gzPzedb75vwLEzFAy60Ernky7Wcq0LqSqWzpNYZq8jiCP ZGht1/9ZoceoGXpQwWSf11bKpYi+95UW4rQgoIg42d2tNV2Y9nrkHt6axPewhuwyIwPB xEkmoHEbIidazfgDXdv6MW0k3HkjbXe75NQZM= Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr1751198wae.226.1216988508275; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.15.4 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:51:48 +0530 From: Subhro To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setuid not working on directories, or am I doing something wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:47:16 -0000 Give me the output of 'mount' please. Thanks Subhro On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > > $ whoami > wmoran > $ mkdir test2 > $ sudo chown daemon:daemon test2 > $ sudo chmod 6777 test2 > $ ls -lah | grep test2 > drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:40 test2 > $ touch test2/testfile.empty > $ ls -lah test2 > total 8 > drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:41 . > drwxr-xr-x 59 wmoran wheel 6.0K Jul 25 07:40 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 wmoran daemon 0B Jul 25 07:41 testfile.empty > > Shouldn't testfile.empty show up as daemon:daemon? or am I > misunderstanding something about how setuid works? > > This is on FreeBSD 7, but I observe the same thing on 6.3 and 6.2. > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ > > wmoran@collaborativefusion.com > Phone: 412-422-3463x4023 > > **************************************************************** > IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is > intended only for the individual named. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:50:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6F61065684 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F3F8FC08 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.162]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:50:35 -0400 id 00056482.4889CC1B.0000EE03 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:49:48 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Subhro Message-Id: <20080725084948.50f39811.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setuid not working on directories, or am I doing something wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:50:36 -0000 In response to Subhro : > Give me the output of 'mount' please. In the example detailed below: $ mount /dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad4s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) This was in my home directory, which is /usr/home/wmoran Again, the behaviour persists across at least three machines (this one with 7.0, and two others with 6.X). > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Bill Moran > wrote: > > > > $ whoami > > wmoran > > $ mkdir test2 > > $ sudo chown daemon:daemon test2 > > $ sudo chmod 6777 test2 > > $ ls -lah | grep test2 > > drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:40 test2 > > $ touch test2/testfile.empty > > $ ls -lah test2 > > total 8 > > drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:41 . > > drwxr-xr-x 59 wmoran wheel 6.0K Jul 25 07:40 .. > > -rw-r--r-- 1 wmoran daemon 0B Jul 25 07:41 testfile.empty > > > > Shouldn't testfile.empty show up as daemon:daemon? or am I > > misunderstanding something about how setuid works? > > > > This is on FreeBSD 7, but I observe the same thing on 6.3 and 6.2. > > > > -- > > Bill Moran > > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ > > > > wmoran@collaborativefusion.com > > Phone: 412-422-3463x4023 > > > > **************************************************************** > > IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is > > intended only for the individual named. 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The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. **************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 12:56:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B80106568E for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch (ns1.bsdunix.ch [82.220.1.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38808FC1A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@bsdunix.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33F05DB9 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:41:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.bsdunix.ch Received: from conversation.bsdunix.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (conversation.bsdunix.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id y713djUbSvtl for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:41:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bert.mlan.solnet.ch (bert.mlan.solnet.ch [212.101.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by conversation.bsdunix.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44DA5D5A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:41:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4889C9E8.2000803@bsdunix.ch> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:41:12 +0200 From: Thomas Vogt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080609) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: pxe bootable freebsd rescue system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:56:18 -0000 Hello I try to setup a FreeBSD PXE bootable rescue image. I'm aware of the rescue mode on Disc1 on every FreeBSD CD. My goal is to setup a non interactive session. Boot via PXE, set a root password depends on the mac address, start ssh and allow remote login. Adrian Steinmann showed something similar at the Eurobsdcon 2005 in Basel with "Single User Secure Shell, Installing small systems with FreeBSD using the Secure Shell RAMdisk environment" He uses a ssh key, where i have to set the root password during the boot, depending on the mac adress. This is not a big issue with linux systems, where most rescue systems allow you to set password=xxx during the pxe boot. Maybe someone has already done this and wants to share some information with me :) Regards, Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:00:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CC21065671 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5068FC1D for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:50911 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KMMun-000145-3X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:00:57 +0200 Received: (qmail 82448 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2008 15:00:53 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2008 15:00:53 +0200 Received: (qmail 70641 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Jul 2008 15:00:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:00:53 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Michael Powell Message-ID: <20080725130052.GA70571@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KMMun-000145-3X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KMMun-000145-3X e0df89f9f0660ed5206b1acf7c722415 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:00:58 -0000 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:42:54AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > Nejc ?koberne wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am buying hardware for a FreeBSD server and me and my friend argue about > > whether or not to by ECC RAM for the server. It is a HP ProLiant ML110 G4 > > machine and currently it has 2 x 512 HP DDR2 ECC memory. > > > > My friend says buying ECC memory is not wise, because we would not profit > > from it since this server will not need very high availability (but still > > we'd like to make it a solid server). And also that ECC memory slows down > > memory operations by 2-3% all together. Also, we would profit from buying > > non-ECC memory because we already have 2 x 1GB non-ECC memory and if we: > > > > - buy extra 2 x 1GB non-ECC memory we'll have 4GB all together (4 x 1GB) > > - buy extra 2 x 1GB ECC memory we'll have 3GB all together (2 x 512MB + > > 2 x 1GB) > > > > 1. So, what would you base your decision on? Is getting ECC worth losing > > 1GB of non-ECC memory? > > My decision would be based upon what the server was going to be used for. > Home use, or non "mission critical" I'd say non-ECC is just fine. At work > for "mission critical" database, mail, etc I stick with ECC. Especially > when it comes to Windows, as Windows has a nasty habit of trying to mask > what's going on behind the scene. No way I'd run a large SQL database or > Exchange server without ECC. > > I'd be more concerned with trying to buy all the memory at the same time so > the sticks were all identical, especially with regard to timing and speed > ratings. You can create a problem when you have stick(s) from one > manufacturer then add in different ones later. IMHO, in this particular > situation, my "gut" feeling from your description would be to go with the > 4GB of non-ECC as it sounds like the scenario doesn't match the criteria I > use for justifying ECC as a "must have". > > > 2. What are your experiences with ECC? > > 3. Did self-halt because of a memory error (having ECC memory) ever happen > > to someone here? > > If it does you have defective hardware that is in need of replacement. Yes, > I have had bad RAM; whether it's ECC or non-ECC isn't the issue when it is > simply defective. > > > 4. If there is non-ECC memory installed, how does FreeBSD recognizes > > (corrects?) memory errors? > > > > Generally speaking this occurs more at the hardware level. Non-ECC RAM can > correct single bit errors while ECC is capable of fixing multi-bit errors. No, non-ECC RAM cannot detect or correct any errors at all. (Old parity-RAM could detect, but not correct, single-bit errors.) ECC is generally capable of detecting multi-bit errors and fixing single-bit errors. (There are different ways of implementing ECC. Some of them might well be able to fix multi-bit errors too.) > However, should I become aware that ECC was "fixing" too many errors too > often I would consider there to be defective hardware present. > > The purpose of these schemes is to compensate for the fact that in every so > many (some large number) of memory transactions there may be a bit that > gets flipped. If this is happening more often than (some large number) then > there is a defect present. ECC just buys you "uptime" in the event there > are more errors than there should be. Note that random, spontaneous bit flips can happen (infrequently) even in perfectly good RAM. (Due to cosmic rays, radioactive decay in surrounding material, and similar stuff. (No, I am not joking.)) ECC will handle such errors just fine, and that is the main reason why I would want ECC. You can also get defective memory modules, but such can usually be detected by running memtest86 or similar. ECC can usually handle memory modules that have some bits more or less permanently wrong, but such modules should be replaced as soon as possible. > > In either case these bit flips should only happen extremely infrequently, if > ever at all. Consider that these schemes are sort of a fallback to an > extreme "what if" situation and really shouldn't come into play during most > nominal operations. I would go with ECC for something that just had to > stay "up" even in the face or errors. In either case I'd still replace the > defective component(s), irregardless of whether they were ECC or not. I've > seen thousands of machines with non-ECC RAM over the last 15 years that > worked just fine. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:05:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40351065674 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A638FC13 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KMMzZ-0000LL-QZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:53 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.95.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:53 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:07:31 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:05:55 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: [snip] >> >> 1. So, what would you base your decision on? Is getting ECC worth losing >> 1GB of non-ECC memory? Oh - and the other criterion I forgot to mention. If the box in question is only being used by 1 or 2 people and can have downtime to fix defects whenever you want, non-ECC is a consideration. That being said, if it is a box depended upon by many people and expected to be reliable I'd spend the money on 4GB of ECC from the outset. The difference being I need to put up a box and move on to other things. Having to return and muck with complaints is a counter productive waste of time that could be better spent with new projects. [snip] > > Just my $.02 here. YMMV and all other standard disclaimers apply. :-) > -Mike > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:19:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8CE1065670 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039078FC15 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KMMhA-000Po2-QP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:46:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C949226E2CD; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4889CB3B.3050308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:46:51 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setuid not working on directories, or am I doing something wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:19:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bill Moran wrote: | $ whoami | wmoran | $ mkdir test2 | $ sudo chown daemon:daemon test2 | $ sudo chmod 6777 test2 | $ ls -lah | grep test2 | drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:40 test2 | $ touch test2/testfile.empty | $ ls -lah test2 | total 8 | drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:41 . | drwxr-xr-x 59 wmoran wheel 6.0K Jul 25 07:40 .. | -rw-r--r-- 1 wmoran daemon 0B Jul 25 07:41 testfile.empty | | Shouldn't testfile.empty show up as daemon:daemon? or am I | misunderstanding something about how setuid works? | | This is on FreeBSD 7, but I observe the same thing on 6.3 and 6.2. | Hi Bill, ~From what I've read, you have to take some extra steps to get this to work. First, visit this page and search for "suiddir": http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount&sektion=8&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE I believe you have to run a kernel with the SUIDDIR option enabled, and then you have to mount your filesystem with the suiddir option, as described in the mount man page above. Let us know if that works for you or not. Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.sourcehosting.net/ http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIics70sRouByUApARAnZbAJ9UK/3OA6Q9m4TIk6vnzT8Hrx4P+wCgnkw2 JaLLa7Lp7Y8v2Jm04qSWC1I= =WC5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:20:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D14B1065674 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65AB8FC1E for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.162]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:20:34 -0400 id 00056412.4889D322.0000FEA7 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:19:47 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080725091947.49a3e1b6.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <4889CB3B.3050308@FreeBSD.org> References: <20080725074526.8f7ae01a.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <4889CB3B.3050308@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setuid not working on directories, or am I doing something wrong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:20:35 -0000 In response to Greg Larkin : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Bill Moran wrote: > | $ whoami > | wmoran > | $ mkdir test2 > | $ sudo chown daemon:daemon test2 > | $ sudo chmod 6777 test2 > | $ ls -lah | grep test2 > | drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:40 test2 > | $ touch test2/testfile.empty > | $ ls -lah test2 > | total 8 > | drwsrwsrwx 2 daemon daemon 512B Jul 25 07:41 . > | drwxr-xr-x 59 wmoran wheel 6.0K Jul 25 07:40 .. > | -rw-r--r-- 1 wmoran daemon 0B Jul 25 07:41 testfile.empty > | > | Shouldn't testfile.empty show up as daemon:daemon? or am I > | misunderstanding something about how setuid works? > | > | This is on FreeBSD 7, but I observe the same thing on 6.3 and 6.2. > | > > Hi Bill, > > ~From what I've read, you have to take some extra steps to get this to > work. First, visit this page and search for "suiddir": > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount&sektion=8&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE > > I believe you have to run a kernel with the SUIDDIR option enabled, and > then you have to mount your filesystem with the suiddir option, as > described in the mount man page above. > > Let us know if that works for you or not. That explains it, Greg. Thanks for the feedback. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ wmoran@collaborativefusion.com Phone: 412-422-3463x4023 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:26:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1310106564A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483698FC15 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KMNJY-0001JQ-GM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:32 +0000 Received: from pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.95.210]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:32 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:32 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:28:11 -0400 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> <20080725130052.GA70571@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-138-88-95-210.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:35 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: [snip] > > No, non-ECC RAM cannot detect or correct any errors at all. (Old > parity-RAM could detect, but not correct, single-bit errors.) Actually quite true. The old parity bit functionality that was removed from RAM and then called "non-ECC" actually migrated to the memory controller. So yes, it isn't the RAM that does it. Poor choice of wording on my part. > ECC is generally capable of detecting multi-bit errors and fixing > single-bit errors. (There are different ways of implementing ECC. Some of > them might well be able to fix multi-bit errors too.) These cost lots of money. Common on "Big Iron". In fact, non-ECC as an option isn't even offerred on "B.I". [snip] >> The purpose of these schemes is to compensate for the fact that in every >> so many (some large number) of memory transactions there may be a bit >> that gets flipped. If this is happening more often than (some large >> number) then there is a defect present. ECC just buys you "uptime" in the >> event there are more errors than there should be. > > Note that random, spontaneous bit flips can happen (infrequently) even in > perfectly good RAM. (Due to cosmic rays, radioactive decay in surrounding > material, and similar stuff. (No, I am not joking.)) ECC will handle > such errors just fine, and that is the main reason why I would want ECC. Especially true in satellites. The RAM in a satellite, or other spacecraft must be radiation hardened to be usuable at all. And yes, it is no joke but the truth what you say. For me the dividing line is when lots of people depend on a box 24/7 it must be ECC. A storage server in someones basement doesn't necessarily fit into this category. > You can also get defective memory modules, but such can usually be > detected > by running memtest86 or similar. ECC can usually handle memory modules > that have some bits more or less permanently wrong, but such modules > should be replaced as soon as possible. > I agree - I was kind of harping on the "defective" idea. If it's defective the manufacturer owes me a replacement, as in yesterday. [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:33:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FECA106566C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [209.41.94.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBDB8FC13 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from c-76-23-4-92.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([76.23.4.92] helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1KMNQK-000C7r-SS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:33:33 -0600 Message-Id: From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" To: freebsd-questions Questions In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:33:32 -0600 References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> <20080725130052.GA70571@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.23.4.92 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:33:34 -0000 > If you can afford it, always buy the ECC. Saves your bacon more often than not in the long run. My Mac Pro personal desktop has it. It developed an issue in one of the sticks. The system detected that many errors were getting corrected, and disabled the whole stick. Sure I lost 2GB but the system did not go down. I can shut it down and replace the memory at my leisure. A Solaris 10 server I run has a memory stick creating many errors. System is still up and I can replace the stick when I can without a hard crash. ECC cannot necessarily protect you from every memory issue but it can protect you from many sorts of memory issues and can keep you from having hard crashes and allow you to fix problems on your schedule instead of in a panic. First time you have a hard crash due to memory issues you will wish you had ECC. (And a motherboard that supports ChipKill) Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:59:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4C71065673 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vonarburg@omnisec.ch) Received: from MAIL.OMNISEC.CH (mail.omnisec.ch [62.2.164.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2F08FC27 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vonarburg@omnisec.ch) Received: from 155.111.232.108(unknown) by OAGMAILSRVI via phion-mailgw id 20080725-152515-06755-00; 25 Jul 2008 15:25:15 +0200 Received: by mailserver2.omnisec.ch with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <39KML5N5>; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:44:13 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vonarburg, David" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:44:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-virus-status: checked by phion-mailgateway, virus found Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Motherboard FAN Speed control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:52 -0000 Hi friends, I have a motherboard for Intel Core2Duo CPU using the Q35 chipset. How can I read out the speed of the Fan's connected to the Motherboard and control the speed? I would like to do that from console and later directly in my application. I tried to find something in sysctl but without success. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 14:04:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDD51065673 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE8A8FC14 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:64194 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KMNu5-0002iH-5C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:04:17 +0200 Received: (qmail 82827 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2008 16:04:16 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2008 16:04:16 +0200 Received: (qmail 70962 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Jul 2008 16:04:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:04:16 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Michael Powell Message-ID: <20080725140416.GA70841@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4889BAE0.6030308@skoberne.net> <20080725130052.GA70571@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KMNu5-0002iH-5C. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KMNu5-0002iH-5C 5ad6db7770f48470776dae0cc49a7510 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and ECC memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:04:20 -0000 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:28:11AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > Erik Trulsson wrote: > [snip] > > > > No, non-ECC RAM cannot detect or correct any errors at all. (Old > > parity-RAM could detect, but not correct, single-bit errors.) > > Actually quite true. The old parity bit functionality that was removed from > RAM and then called "non-ECC" actually migrated to the memory controller. > So yes, it isn't the RAM that does it. Poor choice of wording on my part. Not quite. Old parity-RAM usually had an extra parity bit for every 8 data bits. By computing the parity (odd or even number of 1s) in the data bits and comparing it with the value of the parity bit (which got set when you wrote to memory) you could see if any single bit had been flipped. (ECC also uses these extra bits, but uses them in a smarter way.) Non-ECC RAM (as well as older non-parity RAM) does not have these extra bits and therefore you cannot detect any spontaneous bit-flips inside the RAM, since you have nothing to compare the data read against. (The reason non-ECC RAM is more common than ECC RAM is simply that these extra bits require extra chips on the memory module and therefore cost more money - money which most people are not prepared to pay.) (If you count the number of chips on a non-ECC memory module you will find that the number of chips on it is usually a multiple of 8, while on ECC- or parity-RAM it is usually a multiple of 9.) Many modern memory controllers do have parity checking (or even ECC) on the busses between controller and RAM and between controller and CPU. This lets you detect (or even fix) any errors may happen as data is transferred from RAM to CPU. It does not let you detect random errors inside the RAM, which parity or ECC can let you do. > > > ECC is generally capable of detecting multi-bit errors and fixing > > single-bit errors. (There are different ways of implementing ECC. Some of > > them might well be able to fix multi-bit errors too.) > > These cost lots of money. Common on "Big Iron". In fact, non-ECC as an > option isn't even offerred on "B.I". > > [snip] > >> The purpose of these schemes is to compensate for the fact that in every > >> so many (some large number) of memory transactions there may be a bit > >> that gets flipped. If this is happening more often than (some large > >> number) then there is a defect present. ECC just buys you "uptime" in the > >> event there are more errors than there should be. > > > > Note that random, spontaneous bit flips can happen (infrequently) even in > > perfectly good RAM. (Due to cosmic rays, radioactive decay in surrounding > > material, and similar stuff. (No, I am not joking.)) ECC will handle > > such errors just fine, and that is the main reason why I would want ECC. > > Especially true in satellites. The RAM in a satellite, or other spacecraft > must be radiation hardened to be usuable at all. And yes, it is no joke but > the truth what you say. > > For me the dividing line is when lots of people depend on a box 24/7 it must > be ECC. A storage server in someones basement doesn't necessarily fit into > this category. It depends also on what kind of data is stored on the server. One of the really nasty problems that can occur with random bit-flips in non-ECC RAM is that important data can get silently corrupted. You can get an error in your database or spreadsheet or payroll data or whatever without noticing until it is too late (by which time all your backups will probably have this wrong data too.) Depending on the data this can be VERY bad, even if it is a system that is only used occasionally by a few people. Memory errors which cause the computer to crash can be quite disruptive, but they are at least easily noticed, and can then be handled. > > > You can also get defective memory modules, but such can usually be > > detected > > by running memtest86 or similar. ECC can usually handle memory modules > > that have some bits more or less permanently wrong, but such modules > > should be replaced as soon as possible. > > > > I agree - I was kind of harping on the "defective" idea. If it's defective > the manufacturer owes me a replacement, as in yesterday. Yes, and in the (luckily fairly uncommon) case that one of the chips on a memory module suddenly decides to stop working, then ECC can serve the same purpose as RAID does for disks - it allows the system to keep going until you have time to replace the broken part. (Which should be done ASAP since if you get random bit-flips in addition to a broken chip, ECC will not be able to correct those bits.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 14:14:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D54E106564A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151EA8FC1C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PEEV7w051552; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:14:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47FE8BAA0; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:14:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:14:25 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "Vonarburg, David" Message-ID: <20080725141425.GA24668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard FAN Speed control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:14:34 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 03:44:12PM +0200, Vonarburg, David wrote: > Hi friends, > I have a motherboard for Intel Core2Duo CPU using the Q35 chipset. > How can I read out the speed of the Fan's connected to the Motherboard and > control the speed? You can read it with the sysutils/mbmon port. I don't think you can set it. The CPU clock speed is managed by powerd(8) with the cpufreq(4) driver. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiJ38EACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVlwQCgil8HNiqUwiwdtIINPhl127dg nHkAnRtWsI7vYliTlYQ7rDzJaNMC67My =ocy8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 14:53:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DCC106573E for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.kachelmann@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB908FC13 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.kachelmann@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1512008nfh.33 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:53:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=5OJwt+/5q9YAZWnlx9pb5KoeaMejOGdQyEkIYLY2YU0=; b=jlkwWfONO5SEj0wNotjcHlGTH71l/GYJIoX6cW/B/CjfP0ucfDYygu6pIu93PuzVg/ a7dNAPeBjKJ5YjokNMqaHf7eSEG2a5kQKVKj8GLPA2msYZknQ5W0f4IvKP7bacg7W43z FWeIeJLQYZ5lWOE6KN6ae1KbEqgvFz3TItMio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=M1YRYhC12kXgE2tQdSgIwyI06ptGJrQ3MKO9b9AE5HHSzk4tcDtmWgqrkgJi0t6hTi r1bcaiCGYAlER12D85HK3qJizdRbu5dpRdEnKSRgFh41vCIeEYY01dQ1GQlJOm8pWw/k KCim2yo3dtuvZriAPRMW127W5rmqkWVjMlr0Y= Received: by 10.210.82.7 with SMTP id f7mr2013118ebb.140.1216995981238; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.53.12 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <91b92520807250726l41619be9k89689c113d2e3c9e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:26:21 +0200 From: "Sandra Kachelmann" To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: what is hostuuid, hostid (for)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:53:26 -0000 I just setup a new server with 7.0-RELEASE and saw the following lines for the fist time when booting the system: Setting hostuuid: 2231232f-4000-aaaa-2333-aafbb88a88ca. Setting hostid: 0x89e3310b. What exactly are those for? Is it a unique string based on my hardware based on a certain component? CPU maybe? Is it something that could be determined under lets say Linux as well? I am asking because this could become handy as a unique identifier for a piece of equipment (for putting it on stock, re-using, inventory database, ...). Sandra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 15:32:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE0F1065670 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607D48FC15 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PFWCWE001961; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:32:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D88A5BA8E; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:32:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:32:12 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Sandra Kachelmann Message-ID: <20080725153212.GA26601@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <91b92520807250726l41619be9k89689c113d2e3c9e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <91b92520807250726l41619be9k89689c113d2e3c9e@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is hostuuid, hostid (for)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:32:14 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 04:26:21PM +0200, Sandra Kachelmann wrote: > I just setup a new server with 7.0-RELEASE and saw the following lines > for the fist time when booting the system: >=20 > Setting hostuuid: 2231232f-4000-aaaa-2333-aafbb88a88ca. > Setting hostid: 0x89e3310b. >=20 > What exactly are those for? Is it a unique string based on my hardware > based on a certain component?=20 See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUID and /etc/rc.d/hostid. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiJ8fwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXCxwCgr4o5y/iNf+cqNwdo3SMxWUnu naAAn2EFtWCi5b3z1XrDic8ymwNSRR/V =e2ai -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 16:03:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A60A1065671 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F2B8FC12 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1205570ywe.13 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:03:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rqkAsMOL7URv07ycS8WTd3IM3Z9pGQZb3tsUTiON+JU=; b=E1StVVzc/Z/6VTiWuqm08yag9VWOXzgpkPEBzJSy7nAjcsWh/qg/J39GLqL3uPZ1rc VfARiNdyZBeV5M0BZJ2maYOsh7yD1QoAgGH6LUJpRtD/Uev+/pNYdm/3UbuxlV8PNL2D ivu4/uIqnFU97VkA6IOlwcIx4E/dJXi666pHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mGxqEbbZemL9V7byZIaxK5+obI6TW7cX9QGIAgqewyoVZTogzlFaJOCRjlsEZ42+g+ f1RSP9ZYEnYOoWFjQdKKIxidp03LT1T80ETaX09Zz2o72PAeoB0bT5K1BkDr1pesDN+f EQYLczEebjgrn475ruO2BdBYsyVQ/ddAVv6a0= Received: by 10.115.14.1 with SMTP id r1mr2150774wai.206.1217001826591; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.94.8 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:03:46 +0200 From: "Rene Ladan" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080725082654.GA20013@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080725082654.GA20013@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:03:48 -0000 2008/7/25 Roland Smith : > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:45:40AM +0200, Rene Ladan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have an Asus A6JE laptop which has an Intel T5600 CPU. It is >> currently configured as i386 >> with CPUTYPE=prescott. But after reading wikipedia, I get the idea >> that I have slightly >> underconfigured my box, i.e. that a better configuration is possible. >> dmesg says (7.0-release): >> >> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 >> Features=0xbfebfbff >> Features2=0xe3bd >> AMD Features=0x20100000 >> AMD Features2=0x1 >> Cores per package: 2 > > No it's configured correctly. See /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk > >> Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD features? > Hmm, according to CPU pages the T5600 is 64-bit capable (see http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=2067695&enterthread=y&STARTPAGE=2), but according to the 7.0 hardware notes it is not: " 2.1 amd64 ... * Intel Pentium(R) 4 Processor supporting Intel EM64T ("Prescott"). This is fabricated on 90nm process technology, uses FC-LGA775 package, and operates with 3.20F/3.40F/3.60F GHz and Intel 925X Express chipsets. The corresponding S-Spec numbers are SL7L9, SL7L8, SL7LA, SL7NZ, SL7PZ, and SL7PX. Note that processors marked as 5xx numbers do not support EM64T. " Yes, there are only two x's in the last sentence. Does that refer to another processor type? Regards, Rene -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 16:18:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7E01065685 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFC68FC0A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PGITPD018618; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4984FBA8E; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:24 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Rene Ladan Message-ID: <20080725161824.GA28181@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20080725082654.GA20013@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:18:31 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 06:03:46PM +0200, Rene Ladan wrote: > Hmm, according to CPU pages the T5600 is 64-bit capable (see > http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=3D29&threadid=3D206769= 5&enterthread=3Dy&STARTPAGE=3D2), > but according to the 7.0 hardware notes it is not: > ... >=20 > * Intel Pentium(R) 4 Processor supporting Intel EM64T ("Prescott"). > This is fabricated on 90nm process technology, uses FC-LGA775 package, > and operates with 3.20F/3.40F/3.60F GHz and Intel 925X Express > chipsets. The corresponding S-Spec numbers are SL7L9, SL7L8, SL7LA, > SL7NZ, SL7PZ, and SL7PX. Note that processors marked as 5xx numbers do > not support EM64T. > " >=20 > Yes, there are only two x's in the last sentence. Does that refer to > another processor type? Yes. The T5600 _does_ support x86_64/amd64/EM64T: http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=3DSL9SP Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiJ/NAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV5JQCfYS+07BIeMRfj3K+tsqn+zi6k vtYAnioarNqw3Y3dRvoKFm+Gv6tUtt9M =hteO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 16:40:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDCF106566C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0220.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C678FC1C for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtpgrave03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B317101D5 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BDCCF826BE for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:40 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 21669593b6dfa3bc, 91b2f9663b6370e5, eagletree@hughes.net, , RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:945:966:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2196:2199:2393:2559:2562:2902:3355:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:4250:4321:4385:4605:5007:6117:6119:7652:7903, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Questions From: Chris Pratt Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:22:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Subject: IP alias/routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:40:17 -0000 This strikes me as a noob question but in 10 years of freebsd, I've never wrapped my brain around it and it seems to be causing me problems this time. I have many aliases on many servers. Some services listening on an alias address seem to return the packets out the alias address as shown in netstat -i in the Opkt column. Others seem to return packets back out the first address specified on the system. This has not bothered me before because it seems to work and I figured I was just confused on how netstat shows the In and Out packet counts. I assumed that local lan traffic would be listed on the appropriate line and anything headed out the WAN would go to default gateway thus appear on the line with the initial address. I've noticed it on ssh often, connect in on a second or third IP yet the packets show as going out through the first configured IP in netstat. I'm now setting up a bind server in which the third alias is the address for incoming DNS queries. It appears it's responding but even though the queries come in on the third alias, they "go out" through the "primary" address or more specifically, the packet count is incremented in the Opkts total for the IP address first attached to the interface via ifconfig (without an alias). My problem appears to be that the packets really are coming from the first IP as the source and are getting blocked by my firewall as they should (the first address is not supposed to be answering DNS queries). Am I conceptualizing what I'm seeing incorrectly and have a different config error, or is it true that some services respond with a different source IP other than the what they came in on if multiple aliases are specified on a single interface and wire. In other words, is the Opkt count on the IP irrelevant to the addressing of the packet? Please let me know if this should instead go to FreeBSD-Net. Supporting info: here is an example of the netstat, in this example, dns is listening on 192.168.0.18, the first interface ifconfig'd is 0.12. If I read it correctly, it goes out the default gateway which is somehow tied to the 0.12. This machine is not a gateway, has no FWDs in ipfw, and isn't running natd. $ netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll rl0 1500 00:10:b5:76:ce:20 631 0 1 0 0 rl0 1500 192.168.252.0 192.168.252.11 0 - 0 - - rl1 1500 00:14:2a:02:bd:64 22628 0 7833 0 0 rl1 1500 192.168.0.0 192.168.0.12 11 - 7450 - - rl1 1500 192.168.0.11 192.168.0.11 1482 - 278 - - rl1 1500 192.168.0.18 192.168.0.18 1243 - 0 - - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 16:57:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331E51065678 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@residentdesign.net) Received: from omr3.networksolutionsemail.com (omr3.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15BD8FC17 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@residentdesign.net) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr3.mgt.netsolmail.com [10.49.6.66]) by omr3.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m6PGKdcW001800 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:20:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 7696 invoked by uid 78); 25 Jul 2008 16:20:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail41) (205.178.146.50) by ns-omr3.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2008 16:20:39 -0000 Received: from 216.57.114.239 (webmaster@residentdesign.net [216.57.114.239]) by webmail41 (Netsol 11.2.30) with WEBMAIL id 25899; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:20:39 +0000 From: "Harrison King" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Mailer: Network Solutions Webmail, Build 11.2.30 X-Originating-IP: [216.57.114.239] X-Forwarded-For: [(null)] Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:20:39 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Internal Card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:57:27 -0000 I am using a Dell Latitude D520 with the GENERIC kernel on FreeBSD 7.0.I = am not able to fully utilize all of the devices available on this model. = However, the most concerning issue is the Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Int= ernal Card. I am not able to find the device or the device name on the bo= ot log or on any forums on the web. Background information: This internel= device is a combination Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and is fully customizable fo= r one interface or the other. It=E2=80=99s built into each Dell Latitude = D520 by default without any installation required. I suspect if I add the= device name to a custom kernel and rebuild, it will recognize it. Any he= lp is deeply appreciated.Sincerely,Harrison King.Resident Design. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 17:13:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0241065674 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626EB8FC37 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6PHD16W020706; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:13:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m6PHD16W020706 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1217005982; bh=Hb3q8wZ/DcSq5P HYft41hAwweIfMI6mKREUE5GoXpq4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Fri,=2 025=20Jul=202008=2018:12:55=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Chris=20Pratt=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Que stions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20IP=20alia s/routing=20question|References:=20<9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E 17E16@hughes.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17 E16@hughes.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multip art/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicat ion/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigCE3CDD3EC 8073C6FE09ADCAF"; b=pfzrGxd5EvbLVWG/oqCQI9CrJAWnPv3EvybltnA1YEzosoa QNFC3uVhPybp64rqAibrk3UuGXh8MDsxm2WGrafVVrSvqKf9G/Miskhts9D6LYZz+Mw CoYGhENnF5jjtEO7aYzLHCVgKyWiB6AWtYdn7KaEfmS5YJiTl1ea0aYv8= Message-ID: <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:12:55 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Pratt References: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> In-Reply-To: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCE3CDD3EC8073C6FE09ADCAF" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:13:02 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/7826/Fri Jul 25 13:51:06 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IP alias/routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:13:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCE3CDD3EC8073C6FE09ADCAF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Pratt wrote: > I'm now setting up a bind server in which the third alias > is the address for incoming DNS queries. It appears > it's responding but even though the queries come in > on the third alias, they "go out" through the "primary" > address or more specifically, the packet count is > incremented in the Opkts total for the IP address first > attached to the interface via ifconfig (without an alias). > My problem appears to be that the packets really are > coming from the first IP as the source and are getting > blocked by my firewall as they should (the first address > is not supposed to be answering DNS queries). Carefully not answering the 'why do these packets come from the wrong address' question, but just pointing out that BIND is actually rather more configurable in this respect than most software. You can control what IPs BIND will communicate on for various purposes using the following statements in the options { } section of named.conf: listen-on { 127.0.0.1; 12.34.56.78; }; listen-on-v6 { ::1; 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1; }; query-source address 12.34.56.78 port *; query-source-v6 address 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 port *; transfer-source 12.34.56.78 port *; transfer-source-v6 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 port *; notify-source 812.34.56.78 port *; notify-source-v6 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 port *; Note the 'port *' stuff -- due to the recent security problem with the DNS protocol publicised by Dan Kaminsky, it is imperative that the /source/ port on DNS traffic is allowed to be randomised. See http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113=20 http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-08:06.bind.asc and make sure you install a patched version of BIND. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigCE3CDD3EC8073C6FE09ADCAF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkiKCZ0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyySwCeMu9WMuoBNg96g9bfEQ64xhqh l28An0GSt4RJNjjT0nEu2FYHOhWNQcGm =BNYR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCE3CDD3EC8073C6FE09ADCAF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 17:23:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22C41065671 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0253.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E78C8FC1F for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 42B24ACC8 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 50, 0, 0, 3d83e599be4dee54, ab6c36259daa18df, eagletree@hughes.net, , RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:599:601:945:966:967:973:988:989:1042:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:1801:2110:2196:2199:2376:2393:2525:2553:2560:2565:2612:2682:2685:2693:2857:2859:2894:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3000:3022:3027:3355:3770:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:4250:4362:4385:4605:5007:6119:6996:6997:7652:7679:7903:7904, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf04.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Pratt Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:23:30 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Subject: Re: IP alias/routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:23:47 -0000 On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Chris Pratt wrote: > >> I'm now setting up a bind server in which the third alias >> is the address for incoming DNS queries. It appears >> it's responding but even though the queries come in >> on the third alias, they "go out" through the "primary" >> address or more specifically, the packet count is >> incremented in the Opkts total for the IP address first >> attached to the interface via ifconfig (without an alias). >> My problem appears to be that the packets really are >> coming from the first IP as the source and are getting >> blocked by my firewall as they should (the first address >> is not supposed to be answering DNS queries). > > Carefully not answering the 'why do these packets come from the > wrong address' question, but just pointing out that BIND is > actually rather more configurable in this respect than most > software. > > You can control what IPs BIND will communicate on for various > purposes using the following statements in the options { } section > of named.conf: > > listen-on { > 127.0.0.1; > 12.34.56.78; > }; > listen-on-v6 { > ::1; > 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1; > }; > query-source address 12.34.56.78 port *; > query-source-v6 address 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 port *; > transfer-source 12.34.56.78 port *; > transfer-source-v6 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 port *; > notify-source 812.34.56.78 port *; > notify-source-v6 1234:5678:9abc:def0::1 port *; > I am not using those latter three but only the listen-on. I will experiment. I am still curious if what I see with bind, ssh and some others is actually returning on the first address or if netstat just makes it look that way because of the default gateway. > Note the 'port *' stuff -- due to the recent security problem with > the DNS protocol publicised by Dan Kaminsky, it is imperative that > the /source/ port on DNS traffic is allowed to be randomised. See > This is good to know. I assumed going to the current patched cvs was enough. Thank you very much. > http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113 http://security.freebsd.org/ > advisories/FreeBSD-SA-08:06.bind.asc > > and make sure you install a patched version of BIND. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 18:43:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA44E106567E for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC23A8FC16 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PIWabI075193 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:32:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200807251832.m6PIWabI075193@dc.cis.okstate.edu> to: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <75188.1217010756.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:32:36 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Is it Better to Wait until the 6.3 Upgrade to build bind? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:43:21 -0000 Several 6.2 systems are about to be upgraded to FreeBSD6.3. They run bind which also must be upgraded to the new patched version. Should I wait to build the new bind port until after the systems are upgraded or does it matter? Thank you. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 18:49:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F421065674 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2138FC0A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K4K00MUDSA6YO60@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: cswiger@mac.com Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Martin McCormick In-reply-to: <200807251832.m6PIWabI075193@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:49:18 -0700 References: <200807251832.m6PIWabI075193@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is it Better to Wait until the 6.3 Upgrade to build bind? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:49:19 -0000 On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > Several 6.2 systems are about to be upgraded to > FreeBSD6.3. They run bind which also must be upgraded to the new > patched version. > > Should I wait to build the new bind port until after the > systems are upgraded or does it matter? Either way, you should not wait to update bind. :-) If you upgrade to 6.3-STABLE, you should be updating to a 9.3 version of which includes the patch, but it's reasonable to install a later version from ports if you so prefer. If you compile this under 6.2, it would run fine if you later upgrade to 6.3... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 19:54:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C431065763 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F558FC1F for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PJsItr025631 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:54:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200807251954.m6PJsItr025631@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25629.1217015658.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:54:18 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Is it Better to Wait until the 6.3 Upgrade to build bind? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:54:21 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > Either way, you should not wait to update bind. :-) It's like 72 hours away.:-) On Monday, I will actually do the cvs-based upgrades for all the systems in question and will also upgrade bind so that when they are rebooted, bind only has to go down for one time. If I needed to wait until 6.3 is built, then each system would get rebooted and then bind would have to be stopped once more to install the new bind. We are running bind9.3xso we need the upgrade quickly and I just wanted to do it all with as little disruption as possible. It sounds like I can build the new bind first and then do all the cvs upgrades so all that is needed in the wee hours of the morning is a reboot. Many thanks. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 20:24:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A74B106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F478FC1B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PKOOS0094226; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:24:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1x6CVUuMpks6; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:24:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6PKOFZi094214; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:24:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <488A366A.4090901@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:24:10 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90807241547x6abefbaepc8ce9a84784b44d5@mail.gmail.com> <48891697.707@daleco.biz> <539c60b90807241729y6d88e899g5d2acd739c6ad65e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90807241729y6d88e899g5d2acd739c6ad65e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: new vanilla system fails to install many packages/ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:24:30 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Steve Franks wrote: >>> I must be missing something obvious. About 25% of my dependencies >>> fail to install with errors like: >>> >>> "install-info: /usr/local/info/dir: empty file" >>> "pkg-add: command 'install-info --quiet /blah.info' failed" >>> >>> system is 7.0/i386 >>> >>> Steve >> "info" is GNU-related. Any reason that GNU-stuff, esp. >> "info", wouldn't have been installed/built thus far? >> (I dunno, but, maybe a csup with the GNU stuff rejected >> or commented out ...) >> > > All I did was a "developer" (not x developer) sysinstall off 7.0 disk > 1. No tweaking, hacking, or extra packages until I got a clean boot > onto the new disk. I'm somewhere between user and power user. I have > 5 running freebsd systems under my belt, and was going to do my laptop > (I've given up on it several times already - bloody compaq). > >> And anything these ports have in common (assuming they're >> all GNU for starters). They aren't Linuxolator stuff? >> > > Seems to me, they all use gnuinfo instead of manpages? I don't even > know what gnuinfo is, nor linuxulator. > Right, GNU programs may have manpages, but they also have "info" pages which were developed by GNU as a replacement for the UNIX manual (I'm assuming based on past reading ... memory ain't all it used to be). "Linuxulator" or however it's spelled is just a colloquialism for the FreeBSD linux emulation. I've got few guesses for ya. "Developer" package has documentation, correct? Or not? What's "ls -ld /usr/local/info" give? > (!) Bison won't even install (makes fine, but install fails), and > that's pretty darn basic, no? > > Steve Yup, 'tis. Tho' I figure someday BSD'ers would like to have their own implementation. Again, just a guess. KDK -- When all else fails, EAT!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 23:05:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CC0106566B for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192C58FC0A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4446326rvf.43 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f+s5wwYBxCKD7MNsUYbPXbHUzGsQK8cfVgCe1JPb8z0=; b=dFJu/pbpj9iEw0dYQsA3etci50XkZ7uPkBnTCsQUJ+HEGWK+aA9D3gJ+kprPcs65mm TpzDhGyqWMMK8p93nVbKKDH676xlAC4i9dWEoATNqjMAl1RS3pINqD7I8EWloLlKUofI kQN4mzkseLRtRokmAOCg2w7Un4j/Noe5m0AJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=aET9keRjBVFcPPn3RO/Bhc27oOFTLB8lr1jJBqgNITGTEedbb9iJTHHI48Xt4PybjU ERK99GKWEn/KPJeES269KsM8FbHI1+YVygbmJhhQkqOWcahzKkcWSPSpjhl7OW3sKnuv dre2G2ptvkPnUCUZIgsFyIbE+8A+qYwF2SGQY= Received: by 10.114.235.8 with SMTP id i8mr2688348wah.194.1217027101248; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.153.1 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0807251605j525d7480n5a5531188f718660@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:05:01 -0700 From: "David Allen" To: "Matthew Seaman" In-Reply-To: <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Cc: Chris Pratt , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IP alias/routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:05:02 -0000 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Chris Pratt wrote: > >> I'm now setting up a bind server in which the third alias >> is the address for incoming DNS queries. It appears >> it's responding but even though the queries come in >> on the third alias, they "go out" through the "primary" >> address or more specifically, the packet count is >> incremented in the Opkts total for the IP address first >> attached to the interface via ifconfig (without an alias). >> My problem appears to be that the packets really are >> coming from the first IP as the source and are getting >> blocked by my firewall as they should (the first address >> is not supposed to be answering DNS queries). > > Carefully not answering the 'why do these packets come from the > wrong address' question, but just pointing out that BIND is > actually rather more configurable in this respect than most > software. Deliberately addressing the question of 'why do these packets come from the wrong address' question which Mr. Seaman avoided (hello again, Mathew!), I'll add my two cents. Run netstat -rnfinet and examine what's in the 'Netif' column. If there was some inter-host traffic, you'll see a host entry for each of your aliases with a value of 'lo0'. Correlate all the entries in the routing table and you'll be able to determine what exits where. I'm not sure why this question doesn't come up more frequently as it can be problematic, especially in regards to jails (which are implemented using IP aliasing). I started a discussion some weeks ago on the subject that you may find interesting. To recap briefly, if a jail host sends traffic to a jail, the traffic will transit the lo0 interface, exit the jail's interface using the jail's IP address, and connect to the jail on its IP address. The end result? Traffic with identical source and destination IP addresses! Using your numbers, if named was running in a jail (192.168.0.18) and a query was made on the host (192.168.0.12), instead of seeing 192.168.0.12.3450 -> 192.168.0.18.53 192.168.0.18.53 -> 192.168.0.12.3450 you'd see the following on lo0: 192.168.0.18.3450 -> 192.168.0.18.53 192.168.0.18.53 -> 192.168.0.18.3450 You're not using jails, but what I'm describing isn't a jail issue, or a general IP aliasing issue, but a routing issue. Modifying the routing table is, of course, possible. But the results, I've found, are less than satisfactory. If you force traffic out an actual interface, the return traffic will probably still have to occur over loopback and you're back to where you started, but with some new problems. Note also that the above seems to apply irrespective of the number of network cards or networks. Tthe moral of the story? Configure named appropriately, and don't ask any more questions. ;-) On the other hand, if you insist on thinking immoral thoughts as I do, and find a more thorough explanation of any of the above, please do let me know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 23:26:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C661065670 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 194A48FC13 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 61944 invoked by uid 89); 25 Jul 2008 23:26:21 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (maslak@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Jul 2008 23:26:21 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01c8eead$d08d4050$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Yavuz Maslak" To: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:26:07 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Subject: crontab mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:26:24 -0000 Hello On freebsd7.0, my crontab sends many mails about its jobs. I want crontab not to send these mails How can I do that ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 23:27:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8681065672 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0217.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECF08FC1A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 00860591E3 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:27:51 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, d3fed860078530bd, ab6c36259daa18df, eagletree@hughes.net, , RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:599:601:945:947:960:973:988:989:1042:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1543:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2379:2393:2553:2559:2562:2693:3027:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:4362:4384:4470:5007:6119:7652:7903, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf04.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0807251605j525d7480n5a5531188f718660@mail.gmail.com> References: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> <2daa8b4e0807251605j525d7480n5a5531188f718660@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <9DCE03A2-8CBB-4E0D-8BAF-C3DB3E43C66E@hughes.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Pratt Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:27:36 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Subject: Re: IP alias/routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:27:54 -0000 On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:05 PM, David Allen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> Chris Pratt wrote: >> >>> I'm now setting up a bind server in which the third alias >>> is the address for incoming DNS queries. It appears >>> it's responding but even though the queries come in >>> on the third alias, they "go out" through the "primary" >>> address or more specifically, the packet count is >>> incremented in the Opkts total for the IP address first >>> attached to the interface via ifconfig (without an alias). >>> My problem appears to be that the packets really are >>> coming from the first IP as the source and are getting >>> blocked by my firewall as they should (the first address >>> is not supposed to be answering DNS queries). >> >> Carefully not answering the 'why do these packets come from the >> wrong address' question, but just pointing out that BIND is >> actually rather more configurable in this respect than most >> software. > > Deliberately addressing the question of 'why do these packets come > from the wrong address' question which Mr. Seaman avoided (hello > again, Mathew!), I'll add my two cents. > > Run netstat -rnfinet and examine what's in the 'Netif' column. If > there was some inter-host traffic, you'll see a host entry for each of > your aliases with a value of 'lo0'. Correlate all the entries in the > routing table and you'll be able to determine what exits where. > > I'm not sure why this question doesn't come up more frequently as it > can be problematic, especially in regards to jails (which are > implemented using IP aliasing). I started a discussion some weeks ago > on the subject that you may find interesting. To recap briefly, if a > jail host sends traffic to a jail, the traffic will transit the lo0 > interface, exit the jail's interface using the jail's IP address, and > connect to the jail on its IP address. The end result? Traffic with > identical source and destination IP addresses! > > Using your numbers, if named was running in a jail (192.168.0.18) and > a query was made on the host (192.168.0.12), instead of seeing > > 192.168.0.12.3450 -> 192.168.0.18.53 > 192.168.0.18.53 -> 192.168.0.12.3450 > > you'd see the following on lo0: > > 192.168.0.18.3450 -> 192.168.0.18.53 > 192.168.0.18.53 -> 192.168.0.18.3450 > > You're not using jails, but what I'm describing isn't a jail issue, or > a general IP aliasing issue, but a routing issue. Modifying the > routing table is, of course, possible. But the results, I've found, > are less than satisfactory. If you force traffic out an actual > interface, the return traffic will probably still have to occur over > loopback and you're back to where you started, but with some new > problems. Note also that the above seems to apply irrespective of > the number of network cards or networks. > > Tthe moral of the story? Configure named appropriately, and don't ask > any more questions. ;-) On the other hand, if you insist on thinking > immoral thoughts as I do, and find a more thorough explanation of any > of the above, please do let me know. Thanks for the very detailed explanation. I'm hot on the named configuration so that should quiet the questions. But ;-), how about the multiple route table implementation recently introduced in HEAD. Perhaps there is a solution there in the future! I stay with the current RELEASE so I haven't even researched, just watched the talk. Thanks again to both you and Matthew, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 23:38:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEA61065672 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D999D8FC16 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E63E5C36; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:38:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id b5PZpCKxia7N; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:38:22 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Yavuz Maslak Message-ID: <20080725233821.GA193@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Yavuz Maslak , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002c01c8eead$d08d4050$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002c01c8eead$d08d4050$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crontab mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:38:28 -0000 Yavuz Maslak wrote: > On freebsd7.0, my crontab sends many mails about its jobs. > > I want crontab not to send these mails > > How can I do that ? This is somewhat of a FAQ; see: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-March/038638.html -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 01:01:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA1C1065670 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AA28FC0C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4481458rvf.43 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=1C0OHXujcp552Pvc1XRGWwBQargreM2JYstPTvkfNrc=; b=puTcFuZARx/cD61c3YQ0jxjRlBC7/oGoKmynj4gqq0yX1z6ZoN2LUcf0S3jF3op1eP WItt79Sgdf+a7KYqRd9HGP4CTf0GR2nAbWSG7ifOb6oVYVo4SHmZPNYBbATv0TM/XkYf U0EQzunlq5rN3XBQIZNYKVg1ZLqDtsMuqpPN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Yoaoer/JTSDjG2N0574M0hTHKm3dlQCl2J1rLBsmMWyGlTHI2OzlKSXk3PZMydTlkj 4+N4Ru6mMUopsNQLWjvUVEoJz1D0uS3DTApX4i9W6FHwxM9tJoWrVKbqe5VVyZ4LP9g6 0KJcZ+z2u7GwpYTxghVKUbp8gJQmV7s511PdA= Received: by 10.141.115.6 with SMTP id s6mr1178199rvm.224.1217034089769; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.75.13 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:01:29 +0300 From: "tethys ocean" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:01:31 -0000 Hi I ve got 6.3 stable database server. Can i directly upgrade my server from 6.3 to 7.0 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6 *default release=cvs tag=. and also may i add ZFS to my server if such kind of update succsessfull. is it possible or not and advantage and disadvantage. -- Share now a pigeon's flight Bluebound along the ancient skies, Its women forever hair and mammal, A Mediterranean town may arise If you rip apart a pigeon's heart. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 01:25:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4787D106566B for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4538FC14 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.gurvich@verizon.net) Received: from localhost ([70.107.188.207]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K4L000YOAM1T3YC@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:25:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:25:12 -0400 From: David Gurvich In-reply-to: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080725212512.5b4d1e3b@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:25:47 -0000 You should not do the upgrade, though you can. ZFS is still experimental on FreeBSD though you can certainly use zfs pools on your existing system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 02:02:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96942106566C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C29C8FC1A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from max.local (rrcs-74-218-226-253.se.biz.rr.com [74.218.226.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m6Q22hJP096663; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:02:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:03:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200807252203.04974.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: tethys ocean Subject: Re: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:02:44 -0000 On Friday 25 July 2008, tethys ocean wrote: > I ve got 6.3 stable database server. Can i directly upgrade my server > from 6.3 to 7.0 Sure. Be prepared to rebuild and/or reinstall all your ports/packages and follow the other guidelines in src/UPDATING and other documentation. > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6 That's 6-STABLE.. > *default release=cvs tag=. ..and that's 8-CURRENT. You probably want tag=RELENG_7 (7.0-STABLE) or RELENG_7_0 (7.0-RELEASE + security fixes). > and also may i add ZFS to my server if such kind of update succsessfull. > is it possible or not and advantage and disadvantage. Since ZFS in FreeBSD is still experimental you should do a lot of testing and otherwise keep that in mind. For many loads and with the right tuning (see the wiki) it works fine. Advantages and disadvantages are many but a useful response depends on your goals. Why do you think ZFS would be a good thing for this server? JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 03:15:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2511065670 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DBA8FC0C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6Q3FevG099767; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:15:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hbEJ9THtBg0z; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:15:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6Q3FXZT099763; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:15:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <488A96D0.4090504@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:15:28 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tethys ocean References: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:15:42 -0000 tethys ocean wrote: > Hi > > I ve got 6.3 stable database server. Can i directly upgrade my server from > 6.3 to 7.0 > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6 > > *default release=cvs tag=. > > and also may i add ZFS to my server if such kind of update succsessfull. is > it possible or not and advantage and disadvantage. It's quite possible to go from RELENG_6 to 7.0-RELEASE via the traditional csup/buildworld cycle. Take a backup, as *always*. If the machine is remote, have someone prepared to go there ASAP if there is a problem. Be sure and "mergemaster -p". However, I don't recall much trouble ... aside from rebuilding all ports. In some cases, 'twas easier to "make deinstall" and then rebuild or even pkg_add. Kevin Kinsey -- Lee's Law: Mother said there would be days like this, but she never said that there'd be so many! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 06:19:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3942A1065672 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CF68FC15 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4551699rvf.43 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:19:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=AIlwLtk4gVyzVFEhnnuW5MPA0iRWBcElQxJDa9i/U50=; b=PjwtonHkTa+L9+LlKbwaAV3ebfZAJpwAiCZpbtPxa6wZvreBCKgBx0NXQNevMKM+nG nGcoEkxUtbgAeAtOGa764OhEtK4NkxtQbigoIMTseJzLtCA7Z+OzI3Llsc9a388EvtFJ S9j+dKSaiULHiXuW+C79/q/g1C2B161GUd938= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=WVR8Ok3nOS5vy+2yq1Jun4IiMp7xj9VU5DuJPkwri04LmYrJH3oKmZ8lkBHyAtgDKS SHou6nTZSESxEP7WDM1g2+tx7svh8tOxR0QqPOvuu88Q1nwOmB9dQwCDpNeKkVjQ8Y0F bYGhCOcyVGtLU9TcEHIwu9P9BspLxfjTzJvyM= Received: by 10.141.185.3 with SMTP id m3mr1284516rvp.40.1217053145439; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.158.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:19:05 -0300 From: Agus To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Top display pri and renice questions... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:19:06 -0000 Hi guys, Have a question regarding top PRI and the renice command.... extract from top PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 17269 brahama 1 96 0 5932K 5300K select 30:55 0.00% perl5.8.8 Ok...what are the values of PRI? for instance if i renice this pid 10, it will go to 106...where can i find relevant info about this...I benn lookint and couldnt find any clear explanation... Ok..and the renice question is regarding this parameters.. on man it says that by doing this: renice +1 987 -u daemon root -p 32 would change the priority of process ID's 987 and 32, and all processes owned by users daemon and root. but i cannot seem to make it work....i want to renice peoples group processes to 10 but i get renice: Bad pid argument: people like its getting people as a PID...people is a group from /etc/group.. Can this be done? Thanks and cheers, Agustin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 06:38:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5240C1065675 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427C08FC0A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6Q6c9AS026811; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:38:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m6Q6c81m026808; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:38:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:38:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: tethys ocean In-Reply-To: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080726083733.J26794@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:38:16 -0000 k > Hi > > I ve got 6.3 stable database server. Can i directly upgrade my server from > 6.3 to 7.0 > yes. anyway - if your server works fine - why? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 09:19:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A931106564A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABBD78FC1A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 4294 invoked by uid 89); 26 Jul 2008 09:23:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 26 Jul 2008 09:23:30 -0000 Message-ID: <488AEC1A.1020909@ibctech.ca> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:19:22 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Allen References: <9339104B-252B-49DC-9648-B59343E17E16@hughes.net> <488A0997.3090300@infracaninophile.co.uk> <2daa8b4e0807251605j525d7480n5a5531188f718660@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0807251605j525d7480n5a5531188f718660@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Pratt , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IP alias/routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:19:01 -0000 David Allen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> Chris Pratt wrote: >> Carefully not answering the 'why do these packets come from the >> wrong address' question, > Deliberately addressing the question of 'why do these packets come > from the wrong address' question which Mr. Seaman avoided ...heh, heh heh. Good job with the wording guys. I smiled brightly when I went through this ;) Since I've replied but clipped out any further context, I'll add a bit... I agree with David in that this is purely a routing issue. What (IMHO) it comes down to is 'source address selection'. I've been more focused in this scope within IPv6, but it is apparently a problem as well with IPv4, in a different manner. Perhaps this will become more of an issue as more people get used to the understanding that having multiple addresses per interface is the design goal, not an alias workaround. At one point I was advised that there is the ability to use multiple route tables within -current. If the box is being designed for only one application, could you try the new implementation of routing as opposed to making the application fit? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 10:59:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC471065671 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196638FC1B for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080726104540.RSOT21103.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:45:40 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([86.6.1.242]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080726104539.NMGP19289.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:45:39 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 6A4B66473; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:45:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B007619C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:45:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id m6QAjVfR065957 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:45:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:45:31 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080726104530.GD49340@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <235b80000807251801u242157efre4c4a17092220391@mail.gmail.com> <20080726083733.J26794@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080726083733.J26794@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE i386 Cc: Subject: Re: upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:59:52 -0000 --k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 08:38:08AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > k > >Hi > > > >I ve got 6.3 stable database server. Can i directly upgrade my server f= rom > >6.3 to 7.0 > > > yes. > anyway - if your server works fine - why? Because 7 is demonstrably faster than 6.x? Because local policy requires the upgrade? Because he wants to run 7? --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiLAEoACgkQixf5fBYiFmr0+QCggB0NKWWOwDjgPSV+348B9bwe /nEAn2Hv8eWFz4JzoEF3AOes+BbSPC80 =2Q/F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 12:11:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402E9106566C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E598FC12 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DF016C72C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:11:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id D151D16C621 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:11:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 36794 invoked by uid 88); 26 Jul 2008 14:11:35 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO weld.ej2.thelosingend.net) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:11:35 +0200 Message-ID: <488B147D.5050009@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:11:41 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: Subject: Binary upgrade from legacy version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:11:54 -0000 Hi, list! I want to upgrade two freebsd machines I have from 6.1-SECURITY and 5.3-RELEASE respectively, to the latest 7.0 release of FreeBSD. I don't want to cvsup and build, but prefer to use prebuilt binaries. Also I'd like to avoid wiping the systems, and starting afresh. I know this might break my systems and are willing to take the risk. I also reqognize that I probably have to rebuild a lot of ports afterwards. What steps do I take to increase my probablity of success? How do I do this the cleanest way possible? Could I just get all the distfiles and put them on top of my old system? How do I find files that are to be deleted from the old system? sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 12:45:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284531065671 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 7yuny1@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20F18FC0C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 7yuny1@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1778369tid.3 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:45:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=79B7ZG7v6llZenJLyBhVaqRtfC4jv6AvFaBr46cUUEo=; b=TIf3kjkNLiVtw8rpJnwpeut8r72+at6ltRnHabLA43IX3HLWuXMICvA/gQT5eJK4EI IjRyVrq+AsfyLg+WLo44LALYoqwlq0XmPdl6KsypkPkgz8Bdc3u60hPAiGhzJYGxH2q+ yW7dvVBLg9oW/bXRal+n7W1Bm1n102v6h0zB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cjpozEhB4Hz16kdrcChyafSVQpQETBm2ceIu9iueNr91XDPCJ2qpug+k3nw19dJvup nM8v0LPpPfXAxkNlYHn31oIKZKs7wjooi2EgGMwgLlnt8b8yy4cuWrBain0hBG7LIQYl MU/VgX4PgzEmM/FdqxqClXfTU34K/0iP6AxD0= Received: by 10.110.57.6 with SMTP id f6mr3178155tia.35.1217074694839; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.20.20 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <81a9e3840807260518t5379f40ble7a7f696cd7c1389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:18:14 +0800 From: "Jyun-Yi Liou" <7yuny1@gmail.com> To: "Yavuz Maslak" In-Reply-To: <002c01c8eead$d08d4050$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <002c01c8eead$d08d4050$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: crontab mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:45:33 -0000 Hi Yavuz, It's easy to tell crontab stop sending mail to you by disable sendmail in /etc/rc.conf %> echo "sendmail_enable=\"NO\"" man rc.conf for more information :-) or set the variable MAILTO null on corntab MAILTO="" Regards, jyuny1 2008/7/26 Yavuz Maslak > Hello > > On freebsd7.0, my crontab sends many mails about its jobs. > > I want crontab not to send these mails > > How can I do that ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 12:59:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B6D1065672 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 7yuny1@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696618FC1A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 7yuny1@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1779639tid.3 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:59:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=r8kswbkmEk7mewPFDtVlUDViWkb/5fL5d625jGop3Sw=; b=Mq2Q3tEAPwGFPysrHyV3MS3i1WZPO1vf6WzuB69cJkU+EFdL+tqjkOjjxs5ND2kwLt Q6h+Sq3jDtEZPuFW8pY7QAOhGjEBEtbcVN8Ku0DTNpX6iiI8neRAs6mqT3LmHmOUajjF 9rf5TYFhF5eQ/pCDwrVqSUtUx6X0ue/DluRYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=QfU5+8hd/2SlLsSiBNVBE1R+a6AVqpuB4O6uSgC9opYXjV+3PdrgXvlytdNZ9xFp83 IcJdybGaxO5p/ooAPGT4RzOa9sCkPvTSr/QQQDhrMH6c/ZRxVMGMF+cOcVQJLO4vSH4J aFFTepVVfHS5pY06+ut2AAXNLcrgy3QHaPydw= Received: by 10.110.50.19 with SMTP id x19mr3196032tix.36.1217075618313; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.20.20 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <81a9e3840807260533g58afe8e9hacaa599143632547@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:33:38 +0800 From: "Jyun-Yi Liou" <7yuny1@gmail.com> To: "Rene Ladan" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optimal CPUTYPE / arch for Intel T5600 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:59:06 -0000 Hi Rene, for optimizationm, CPUTYPE is depends on what verison of gcc you use. you can determine waht CPUTYPE you use by checking gcc's online manul http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/ i.e. http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.2.4/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-Options Regards, jyuny1 2008/7/25 Rene Ladan > Hi, > > I have an Asus A6JE laptop which has an Intel T5600 CPU. It is > currently configured as i386 > with CPUTYPE=prescott. But after reading wikipedia, I get the idea > that I have slightly > underconfigured my box, i.e. that a better configuration is possible. > dmesg says (7.0-release): > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz (1828.77-MHz 686-class > CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 > > Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0xe3bd > AMD Features=0x20100000 > AMD Features2=0x1 > Cores per package: 2 > real memory = 2147287040 (2047 MB) > avail memory = 2095947776 (1998 MB) > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > acpi0: <_ASUS_ Notebook> on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 > acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 > acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on > acpi0 > Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 > cpu0: on acpi0 > coretemp0: on cpu0 > est0: on cpu0 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 6130b2406000b24 > device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 > p4tcc0: on cpu0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > ACPI Warning (tbutils-0243): Incorrect checksum in table [SSDT] - 77, > should be > 2C [20070320] > coretemp1: on cpu1 > est1: on cpu1 > p4tcc1: on cpu1 > > Maybe some amd64 configuration is possible, since it the cpu has AMD > features? > > Please cc me, I'm not subscribed. > > Regards, > Rene > -- > http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ > > GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 > (subkeys.pgp.net) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 13:04:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B091106568D for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDAC8FC15 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from marge.bs.l (e180063053.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.63.53]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1KMjRG0MHv-0000tO; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:03:58 +0200 Received: from bsch by marge.bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KMjRF-0002uV-L2; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:03:57 +0200 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:03:57 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080726130357.GB10056@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080724133631.GA31077@marge.bs.l> <20080724165727.O3416@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080724165727.O3416@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19F0hMapOp6UrBHqZqjngRK+WCIWiIFLWJefkd 8QgHU5YJtIdDmkIjHm1xvdFW/PPlicLrOsySnqDShUVAO4HRxa KUtNLWaBFuXPfpeu6JPjs6D+0rHC46HZQIc/jL0za0= Cc: Subject: Re: Switch to alternate screen buffer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:04:05 -0000 Hi, Am Donnerstag, 24. Jul 2008, 16:57:40 +0200 schrieb Wojciech Puchar: >> I know from some old Linux installations that Less and Vim are able to >> switch to an alternate screen buffer. They use the escape sequences >> "\e[?1047h" and "\e[?1047l" to switch back respectively. >> >> How can I activate this in FreeBSD? > > no idea but do > > someprg 2>&1|vim - No. I will not waive. This is not Microsoft here. Edit /usr/share/misc/termcap. Change the following entry: xterm|xterm-color|X11 terminal emulator:\ :ti=\E[?47h:te=\E[?47l:tc=xterm-xfree86: Don't forget to execute "cap_mkdb termcap". No need to get over with a poor workaround. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 15:48:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0517106564A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FFF8FC13 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so2132521wah.3 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=37cXc5vrJY/5+YKgCIu9E+bKYnSMgji30ujxwUQIOLo=; b=NlPaITrXTz1U9edCnW48PX8dHkCMEzAYMnTNGwwIIqZpM1+zMQ0EN11n5qxodm4gsU d4Mfc1ZNI+z7U1x/xpUqJTJCafpxiGwJqycigpkR6CP1y0/3RhkerobWj4vntWPqxk51 qANDlomsylCrl7GEM2jNypSQztNM68gOG+0oM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lK+iBLy03Z1f+qZx/Qq0254AXD9VP9ftU8NVhVHY3OB91xo9UMTp4GG2S0ToMa/WwC qiI6nAZJ5hyTgWQJHYoBbLv8/2Jz+A5DoMeCWmqg4cejavGNVkj/Te8G/j7u8N0J0jx9 QmxCfOEq5NKru2VaYvES5e9qDz7ne6HNNGpuE= Received: by 10.114.124.1 with SMTP id w1mr3266623wac.73.1217087332238; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.254.11 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8d23ec860807260848g149df722i801d1d45aa61edcf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:48:52 -0400 From: Schiz0 To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Backspace Key Not Working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:48:52 -0000 Hey, I have an annoying problem that I'm not sure how to solve. Here's my setup: PuTTy => My FreeBSD 6.2 box => Production FreeBSD 7.0 box All via SSH, of course. Now, on my FreeBSD 6.2 box, the backspace key works fine all the time. However, when I connect from my 6.2 box into the production 7.0 box, the backspace key does not work all the time. In the console, it works fine (as in, it deletes what I type). However, when I'm in programs such as VIM, it displays "^?" instead of deleting. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks for your time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 15:55:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7FB1065670 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773028FC21 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A025C33; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:55:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at aegis.hamla.org Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UjnW8pTRhuXM; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:55:05 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Schiz0 Message-ID: <20080726155504.GJ850@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Schiz0 , FreeBSD Questions References: <8d23ec860807260848g149df722i801d1d45aa61edcf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8d23ec860807260848g149df722i801d1d45aa61edcf@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Backspace Key Not Working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:55:08 -0000 Schiz0 wrote: > I have an annoying problem that I'm not sure how to solve. Here's my setup: > > PuTTy => My FreeBSD 6.2 box => Production FreeBSD 7.0 box > > All via SSH, of course. Now, on my FreeBSD 6.2 box, the backspace key > works fine all the time. However, when I connect from my 6.2 box into > the production 7.0 box, the backspace key does not work all the time. > In the console, it works fine (as in, it deletes what I type). > However, when I'm in programs such as VIM, it displays "^?" instead of > deleting. Is there a way to fix this? What are the contents of .vimrc on the 7.0 machine? And how have you set your TERM environment variable on that machine? Does anything change if you connect directly to your 7.0 box without going through 6.2 in between? -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 15:58:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6DC1065675 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F99B8FC19 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4664372rvf.43 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cwi12DEEzxklBEXGr02ronNOJVpyiLaXLLflZcxjOHw=; b=RiiklFKYvXZ2oE3Fv2xQEqoI4A7LpdB2He9qAdP+Xtz3X2FOJdUFhFB9L6BlBXkj4e YLaROLmoZzxVOQZo7RzPLi12AjJYuBkB/5ZSZHnTHHW9/obiz+eUuagp4gJwhyWogU+1 OXoRhkOzSMe4vld0peX9pDHSgvVFLkQWPIC60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=iomfgMLw4PiNal3tYR5lqe3mEVmhRJpBJhM829vMTVTAThfp0xdSVaKyTv0Pt/BH+Y tfMUS0neTSn8cnCzzoGq3u8rGRjxfKMMfETc6pj5wF9YV0qqb/xOi6ZAPT8teamtjll/ 2ZGSGPxMN9YNFlZcenhWJJ5KogcxEV4BF3IzE= Received: by 10.115.111.1 with SMTP id o1mr3263931wam.114.1217087928089; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.254.11 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8d23ec860807260858k27b8cd2cs99586b526c48113b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:58:48 -0400 From: Schiz0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Schiz0 In-Reply-To: <20080726155504.GJ850@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8d23ec860807260848g149df722i801d1d45aa61edcf@mail.gmail.com> <20080726155504.GJ850@shepherd> Cc: Subject: Re: Backspace Key Not Working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:58:48 -0000 .vimrc on the 7.0 box: --------------------------- set autoindent set background=dark set backspace=indent,eol,start set cmdheight=2 set ignorecase set number set numberwidth=2 set report=0 set restorescreen=on set ruler set scrolloff=3 set showbreak=++ set showmatch set showmode set showtabline=3 set smartcase set smartindent set smarttab syntax on set visualbell set ff=unix --------------------------- I haven't manually set $TERM to anything, however I am running this inside "screen" (using UTF-8 encoding). So screen automatically sets $TERM to "screen". I just checked, and if I connect directly to the 7.0 box using PuTTy, the backspace key works fine all the time. Thanks for the quick reply. On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Schiz0 wrote: > >> I have an annoying problem that I'm not sure how to solve. Here's my setup: >> >> PuTTy => My FreeBSD 6.2 box => Production FreeBSD 7.0 box >> >> All via SSH, of course. Now, on my FreeBSD 6.2 box, the backspace key >> works fine all the time. However, when I connect from my 6.2 box into >> the production 7.0 box, the backspace key does not work all the time. >> In the console, it works fine (as in, it deletes what I type). >> However, when I'm in programs such as VIM, it displays "^?" instead of >> deleting. Is there a way to fix this? > > What are the contents of .vimrc on the 7.0 machine? And how have you set > your TERM environment variable on that machine? Does anything change if you > connect directly to your 7.0 box without going through 6.2 in between? > > -- > Sahil Tandon > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 16:27:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7863A1065682 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ECC8FC0C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6QGQtnE096633; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:27:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m6QGQtnE096633 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1217089623; bh=1gzQDFAwyfLWzl 5aN46YTKH8priyXGgolg2p+8Kz9p0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<488B5048.7080200@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 026=20Jul=202008=2017:26:48=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.16=20(X11/20080726)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Svein=20Halvor=20Halvorsen=20|C C:=20questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Binary=20upgrade=20from =20legacy=20version|References:=20<488B147D.5050009@lvor.halvorsen. cc>|In-Reply-To:=20<488B147D.5050009@lvor.halvorsen.cc>|X-Enigmail- Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpg p-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A =20boundary=3D"------------enigD05E512F8B1F9429287787D0"; b=oiVqPHF dSjlPMRRVmhT12wiZVidfokP696zC81xn+wW5PTK3hZ8mmedLNGZbJAX50wlmEaULDZ IW+k18rFRL41lUZgif0hczN0aSBGNvL4xt59YDO8Gu0hMyLZn15/MFyG6OfCmiYIzJa Wh1m6js/sRXiXU5I4RADi+J4wwWRNM= Message-ID: <488B5048.7080200@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:26:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen References: <488B147D.5050009@lvor.halvorsen.cc> In-Reply-To: <488B147D.5050009@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD05E512F8B1F9429287787D0" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:27:03 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/7835/Sat Jul 26 16:48:50 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Binary upgrade from legacy version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:27:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD05E512F8B1F9429287787D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Hi, list! >=20 > I want to upgrade two freebsd machines I have from 6.1-SECURITY and > 5.3-RELEASE respectively, to the latest 7.0 release of FreeBSD. I > don't want to cvsup and build, but prefer to use prebuilt binaries. > Also I'd like to avoid wiping the systems, and starting afresh. >=20 > I know this might break my systems and are willing to take the risk. > I also reqognize that I probably have to rebuild a lot of ports > afterwards. >=20 > What steps do I take to increase my probablity of success? How do I > do this the cleanest way possible? Could I just get all the > distfiles and put them on top of my old system? How do I find files > that are to be deleted from the old system? The cleanest way possible really is wipe and reinstall. For your 5.3 systems, I'd strongly recommend you do exactly that -- 5.3 is almost = certainly too old to support the newer upgrading mechanisms that have come into use since it was released and upgrading by cvsup+rebuild will be exceedingly tedious, as you'll have to take it in a number of steps to= get all the way to 7.0. For your 6.1 systems, you can update by cvsup+rebuild to RELENG_6_3 in one step, or via there to RELENG_7_0 in two. (Actually, you can probably do 6.1->7.0 in one step, but it's not guaranteed to work properly) You will need to rebuild all your installed software, which is not a trivial = undertaking but once you've got past the first few hurdles rapidly become= s=20 nothing more than time-consuming. If your 6.1 system is using a system installed from one of the official iso images and hasn't been locally rebuilt (upgrading via freebsd-updates= is OK though) then there is a quicker way. See http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11.html Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD05E512F8B1F9429287787D0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkiLUE8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxsjwCeJbdOfpUMzFLf+sGgLXR7hV9L M3oAnjCW+QpMC8KoLHd4/unLPrsvEP2p =Lypk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD05E512F8B1F9429287787D0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 17:14:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BB8106567B for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E9A8FC27 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id m6QHDxuG028259; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id m6QHDxVr028254; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:13:59 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080726171359.GA25742@saltmine.radix.net> References: <20080724133631.GA31077@marge.bs.l> <20080724165727.O3416@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080726130357.GB10056@marge.bs.l> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080726130357.GB10056@marge.bs.l> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: Subject: Re: Switch to alternate screen buffer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:14:01 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 03:03:57PM +0200, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Am Donnerstag, 24. Jul 2008, 16:57:40 +0200 schrieb Wojciech Puchar: > >> I know from some old Linux installations that Less and Vim are able to > >> switch to an alternate screen buffer. They use the escape sequences > >> "\e[?1047h" and "\e[?1047l" to switch back respectively. > >> > >> How can I activate this in FreeBSD? > > > > no idea but do > > > > someprg 2>&1|vim - >=20 > No. I will not waive. This is not Microsoft here. >=20 > Edit /usr/share/misc/termcap. Change the following entry: >=20 > xterm|xterm-color|X11 terminal emulator:\ > :ti=3D\E[?47h:te=3D\E[?47l:tc=3Dxterm-xfree86: 47 by itself won't clear the alternate buffer (probably not what is intende= d). For more information http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#xterm_tite --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFIi1tUtIqByHxlDocRAmD2AJoC5/ATW4dIb5eC6d+pTW1asGwK1wCgmkkJ pUfCBl0i1B7VEBcu0/+NK/M= =G+F0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 17:32:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55A6106566C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (llca513-a.servidoresdns.net [217.76.128.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADF18FC08 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from mail.dsa.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B0F110403B for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:31:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 84.18.27.248 (SquirrelMail authenticated user faf352c) by mail.dsa.es with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:31:23 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:31:23 -0000 (GMT) From: "DSA - JCR" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Root boot/mount Password? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:32:19 -0000 Hi all FreeBSD 6.2 I would like to put a password when booting/mounting mi Freebsd box. is it possible? How? What I want is that if the system is rebooted or shutdown, somebody must enter a password to boot and/or mounting "/" is for protecting the system from unauthorized users Thanks in advance Juan Corua Desarrollo de Software Atlantico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 17:53:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91462106564A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D248FC16 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 29810 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2008 17:53:17 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2008 17:53:17 -0000 Message-ID: <488B6497.80004@telenix.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:53:27 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DSA - JCR References: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> In-Reply-To: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root boot/mount Password? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:53:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 DSA - JCR wrote: > Hi all > > FreeBSD 6.2 > > I would like to put a password when booting/mounting mi Freebsd box. > is it possible? How? > > What I want is that if the system is rebooted or shutdown, somebody must > enter a password to boot and/or mounting "/" > > is for protecting the system from unauthorized users A couple of items here. The first is a long known rule of security, which is, if an attacker has physical access to the console, then the game is up, you can't protect it any more. This has *somewhat* been modified in the last few years, because it's a become a fairly common option in BIOSes to allow for a boot password. This too can be bypassed, pretty quickly and thoroughly, by doing a CMOS memory clear, but it IS a step in the right direction. Honestly, though, a good security strategy is to respect that rule about an attacker with physical access to the console: protect yourself physically. Yes, you can set that boot password in the BIOS (active before any OS, including FreeBSD, starts up) but don't be silly and rely on that ... protect yourself. > > > Thanks in advance > > Juan Corua > Desarrollo de Software Atlantico > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiLZJYACgkQz62J6PPcoOkWkgCePG+GpCdE3XJ+g1IzXjZ9QzzT jm8An2MpTyWMnTnTvfLMCmqNhTC2GXaj =YdcO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 18:09:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D8F1065673 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E308FC17 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6QI9LuG094202; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:09:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12564BAA0; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:09:21 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: DSA - JCR Message-ID: <20080726180921.GA17072@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root boot/mount Password? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:09:24 -0000 --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 05:31:23PM -0000, DSA - JCR wrote: > Hi all >=20 > FreeBSD 6.2 >=20 > I would like to put a password when booting/mounting mi Freebsd box. > is it possible? How? Yes. Use geli(8) encryption. > is for protecting the system from unauthorized users Disk encryption also protects your data if the PC or harddrive is stolen. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiLaFEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWd1wCfZEI3FArJVDuSx1j/Kibacu/0 xWAAn0g2FK0UwxsRv19q2PR3e2ZoLS/p =GEdk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 18:12:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3E11065676 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED418FC13 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6QICXsb065245; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:12:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 931F2BAA0; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:12:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:12:23 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20080726181223.GB17072@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> <488B6497.80004@telenix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="neYutvxvOLaeuPCA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <488B6497.80004@telenix.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: DSA - JCR , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root boot/mount Password? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:12:37 -0000 --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 01:53:27PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > DSA - JCR wrote: > > Hi all > >=20 > > FreeBSD 6.2 > >=20 > > I would like to put a password when booting/mounting mi Freebsd box. > > is it possible? How? > >=20 > > What I want is that if the system is rebooted or shutdown, somebody must > > enter a password to boot and/or mounting "/" > >=20 > > is for protecting the system from unauthorized users >=20 > A couple of items here. The first is a long known rule of security, whic= h is, > if an attacker has physical access to the console, then the game is up, y= ou > can't protect it any more. You cannot protect the machine if an attacker has physical access. But you _can_ protect your data by encrypting it. Hence my advice to use geli(8= ). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiLaQcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUa/ACeJ0+R1sj5n4bRjTalV9E3HSgn AeUAnR+/YyCn0u3taMkaIVDphJB2g1tl =1Ob5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 19:53:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EC11065674 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E438FC16 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4720140rvf.43 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=QYtPxx2fhSOUB9bv1bFWbtpwAO6PUJ7j+zQohAU2KIM=; b=wZic2eXsgQyDKdDLDBXjhcT0K1X3wSFOZc34NOFaj0mlq52ldqNB0aoHXN/tD1RpHw osA3WRvWNUYDpVo4pq0DHzxNzf6DB7SX9PeskcHK1IlUVReaaMJeme4kxQ/LMGhPrb2I qhWEJgWiri92NPFThchNQy18mkoxdce31eADc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bj8KBXn2rb/QtIyPXpoXGGrzvrajjUeUN3X84p09Gtzo9iy/7CqKMXe7VBQMVsRYVP 0bh6dnjOaMl3lpA9Q9rKIxuDoK93zRWJyFCzbzo8m7c1xHRxhY/hgpVrX9v3em/oqF/2 /2F1D8/Wr6Tcg9Ca3dDyMs73Ika2xOdlx/HOo= Received: by 10.141.193.1 with SMTP id v1mr1556173rvp.245.1217101985926; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.158.19 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:53:05 -0300 From: Agus To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: VLAN vs Virtual IPs(Alias).... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:53:06 -0000 Hi guys, I have a doubt while planning my network enlargement... I have a router where i created 3 Virtual ips(alias)...eth0:1, eth0:2, etc....so i have 3 subnets with only one eth interface....192.168.[0-3].0 subnets...this connected to a switch, a simple one which doesnt support 802.1q and 4 bsds connected to the switch, 2 in one subnet and the otheres in each subnet, thus the 3 subnets(alias) in my router....I was reading and wanted to know which is the difference, which one is better, can i implement any of this two options (Vlan or Alias) in my network? do i need to recompile my kernel? i have 6.2? Thanks in advance, Have a nice weekend, Agustin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 19:58:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F51065678 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801F28FC16 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19346506A5 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m6QJwsbF001624 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:58:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:58:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080726215853.166d6840.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> References: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root boot/mount Password? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:58:56 -0000 Hi! Allthough you already got good answers, I'd like to add the following: On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:31:23 -0000 (GMT), "DSA - JCR" wrote: > Hi all > > FreeBSD 6.2 > > I would like to put a password when booting/mounting mi Freebsd box. > is it possible? How? > > What I want is that if the system is rebooted or shutdown, somebody must > enter a password to boot and/or mounting "/" Next to the usual means of access control (no automated login, no users without password), there would be an option to boot the system in single user mode first. Your /etc/ttys would contain "insecure" in the 5th field so nobody would get into the shell without the root password. Then, fsck and mount -a, followed by "exit" or Ctrl-D would be neccessary to boot the system into multi user mode. To boot your system into SUM, I think /boot/loader.conf must contain the line ,,boot_single="YES"''. If I remember correctly, there as been a way to put a password request into a much earlier stage of booting (boot oder loader), but sadly, I can't remember where to do this or if it's still possible. Maybe these ideas are helpful. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 20:25:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA040106567A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCEE8FC1C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6QKPSFg043792; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:25:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 72BE4BAA0; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:25:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:25:28 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20080726202528.GB19534@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <3176.84.18.27.248.1217093483.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> <20080726215853.166d6840.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080726215853.166d6840.freebsd@edvax.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root boot/mount Password? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:25:37 -0000 --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 09:58:53PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > What I want is that if the system is rebooted or shutdown, somebody must > > enter a password to boot and/or mounting "/" >=20 > Next to the usual means of access control (no automated login, no > users without password), there would be an option to boot the system > in single user mode first. Your /etc/ttys would contain "insecure" > in the 5th field so nobody would get into the shell without the > root password. Then, fsck and mount -a, followed by "exit" or Ctrl-D > would be neccessary to boot the system into multi user mode. To > boot your system into SUM, I think /boot/loader.conf must contain > the line ,,boot_single=3D"YES"''. Assuming physical access to the machine, this can be easily circumvented by booting from a FreeBSD CD.=20 Of yourse you can disable booting from CD in the BIOS, and guard that with a password. But that is usually easy to wipe by shorting a jumper on the motherboard. It just depends on the amount of time and knowledge that the attacker has. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkiLiDgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVeNQCfYSVSNJqunnoMWzgqhhCN7UJc wgEAn2VY/6zBhLYFl52zy9zUXZWkFeov =iN30 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BwCQnh7xodEAoBMC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 22:17:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3B1106567C for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE98F8FC21 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.196] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6QMHtTx010840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:17:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: From: Doug Hardie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:17:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/7838/Sat Jul 26 11:35:52 2008 on zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: malloc options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:17:56 -0000 I have a program that has run correctly since FreeBSD 3.7. However, when upgrading the server to 7.0 I am encountering issues where values just seem to arbirtrarily change. These values are all located in memory allocated by malloc. Malloc was significantly changed with 7.0 and reading through the malloc man page there are a number of flags that can be set with /etc/malloc.conf. The default for that file is to not exist. The man page does not indicate which settings are used in that situation. After reading through it I get the feeling that the default settings for D and M are 'dM'. Hence, to return to the older malloc aproach to see if the problems go away I would need to set "Dm". But some of the descriptions seem to indicate that might not be correct. What are the default settings? 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