From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 01:39:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D173106568F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508268FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from insp.local (rrcs-74-218-226-253.se.biz.rr.com [74.218.226.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9J1dS63097179; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:39:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:38:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810182138.02317.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Roger Olofsson Subject: Re: gconcat question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:39:30 -0000 On Saturday 18 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: > What are the steps to bring back gconcatenated disks if doing an upgrade > from FreeBSD6 to FreeBSD7 like this? > > As-is situation: > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE ad0 has FreeBSD ad1, ad2 and ad3 are gconcatenated > using 'gconcat label -v data /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 /dev/ad3'. The concat device should just appear automatically after the upgrade as long as you (continue to) load the geom_concat kernel module. Be aware that if the on-disk metadata format has changed then it will automatically be upgraded. This is usually a good thing but if you need to roll back to 6.x for some reason it's something to take into consideration. > Planned upgrade: > Reboot from cdrom, install FreeBSD7 from cd to ad0 Just curious, is there a reason you're going this route instead of upgrading from source? JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 02:03:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436F2106568B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C388FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from insp.local (rrcs-74-218-226-253.se.biz.rr.com [74.218.226.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9J23b63003370; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:03:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:03:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <7331B81C-7229-40A6-9B5D-2B5B45071CF3@hughes.net> In-Reply-To: <7331B81C-7229-40A6-9B5D-2B5B45071CF3@hughes.net> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810182203.31467.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Chris Pratt Subject: Re: Using mirroring to replace drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:03:39 -0000 On Saturday 18 October 2008, Chris Pratt wrote: > Hi, For years I've been upgrading by building a temp > server, transferring a production function to it and > temporarily decommissioning the one server while > I upgrade and rebuild it. I was thinking of trying a different > approach since having tried out gvinum in the last > couple of years. > > The current scenario is that I have a machine where the > adaptec controller is suggesting I replace a failing SCSI > drive which happens to be the system disk. I purchased > a couple of new drives and thought I might just plug it in > and mirror the failing drive on the new drive. Then > pull the failing drive and plug in the other new drive as > the second mirrored drive and be done with it. One > obvious outcome would be a having a system drive > mirror for future such issues. I have never built a mirror > on the fly but it seems many have from what I've read > and the cookbooks out there make it sound very > easy. I was going to use GEOM Mirror on 6.2 (then > upgrade to 7.0 after establishing the new good drives). > > 1. Is this an appropriate way to deal with this? It could be. However if the new disks are not the same size as the failing disk (or perhaps even if they are) I would recommend using dump/restore to do the transfer rather than including the failing drive in the mirror. Assuming you can only have 2 disks attached at any given time and want to mirror at the disk level (as opposed to partition or slice), the sequence would be something like this: Connect new disk. Gmirror label ... (create a single-member ("broken") mirror on the new disk) Partition (fdisk) and label (bsdlabel) the new mirror device, installing boot blocks as appropriate (fdisk -B and bsdlabel -wB, for example) Newfs and mount (to a temporary location) each filesystem on the mirror. Dump the contents of each filesystem from the original disk to the mirror device. Use the -L flag to dump to dump from a snapshot for "live" filesystems. Edit /etc/fstab and change the relevant mountpoint entries to refer to the ones on the mirror. Ensure that /boot/loader.conf contains 'geom_mirror_load="YES"'. Shut down, remove the old disk and connect the second new disk. Boot (from the first new disk). If this doesn't succeed switch back to the old disk and figure out why. Gmirror insert ... (add the second disk to the mirror) Wait for rebuild to complete Finished! > 2. Are there any high risk aspects of doing this while running > a server in production? I'm thinking of things like how > probable it is of trashing the original disk, making the > system unbootable in the process etc? Like other GEOM classes gmirror stores its metadata in the last sector of the provider (the disk, in this case). If you decide to include the old disk in a mirror there is a chance that this sector will have been in use by the filesystem, though in the whole-disk scenario this is somewhat rare. Using the approach I outlined above avoids the possibility altogether. Other risks are minimal. The system will be I/O loaded during the dump/restore and mirror resync phases, though decent hardware can make this less obvious. If you manage to tickle a UFS snapshot bug during the dump the system could panic, though in my experience (on lightly-loaded systems without other snapshots and not using quotas) this has not happened. Having a fallback plan (revert to the unmodified original disk) is another selling point of the method I outlined above. > 3. Are there better approaches that are safer (aside from > my normal hardware swap MO). See my response to 1). > 4. Does using GEOM Mirror RAID-1 make the upgrade from > 6.2 to 7.0 a dangerous proposition. I do upgrades via > cvsup and buildworld. Not really. The gmirror module in 7.x will read and understand (and possibly update) the on-disk metadata as soon as it sees it. Just be sure to load it. Worst case you end up booting from a single drive and have to manually specify your root partition. > The environment is > FreeBSD 6.2 > Supermicro with Adaptec SCSI > All ~73 GB Maxtor and Seagate drives > Current da0 system is Maxtor, there > will be minor size differences, the > replacement Cheetah is a hair larger. > Apache, PHP5 and Mysql > No existing RAID Configuration JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 02:13:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59699106568B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350DA8FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KrNn8-00082d-JC; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:13:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38973263FF87; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48FA97BB.4000402@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:13:15 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com References: <858648.49756.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <858648.49756.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Cc: alecn2002@yandex.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error installing kmymoney2 on amd64 system running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:13:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi freebsd peeps, > > Who can help me sort this error out when I try to installl kmymoney2 on my amd64 system. The error I get is: > > test ! -f sk.gmo || touch sk.gmo > rm -f es_AR.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o es_AR.gmo ./es_AR.po > test ! -f es_AR.gmo || touch es_AR.gmo > rm -f pt_BR.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o pt_BR.gmo ./pt_BR.po > test ! -f pt_BR.gmo || touch pt_BR.gmo > rm -f es.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o es.gmo ./es.po > test ! -f es.gmo || touch es.gmo > rm -f fr.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o fr.gmo ./fr.po > test ! -f fr.gmo || touch fr.gmo > rm -f nl.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o nl.gmo ./nl.po > test ! -f nl.gmo || touch nl.gmo > rm -f pt.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o pt.gmo ./pt.po > test ! -f pt.gmo || touch pt.gmo > rm -f en_GB.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o en_GB.gmo ./en_GB.po > test ! -f en_GB.gmo || touch en_GB.gmo > rm -f ca.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o ca.gmo ./ca.po > test ! -f ca.gmo || touch ca.gmo > rm -f gl.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o gl.gmo ./gl.po > test ! -f gl.gmo || touch gl.gmo > rm -f ru.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o ru.gmo ./ru.po > test ! -f ru.gmo || touch ru.gmo > rm -f zh_CN.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o zh_CN.gmo ./zh_CN.po > test ! -f zh_CN.gmo || touch zh_CN.gmo > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/po' > Making all in doc > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc' > Making all in en > gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en' > if test -n "/usr/local/bin/meinproc"; then echo /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 --stylesheet /usr/local/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl ./index.docbook; /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 --stylesheet /usr/local/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl ./index.docbook; fi > /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 --stylesheet /usr/local/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl ./index.docbook > gzip -9 -c -N ../../doc/en/kmymoney2.1 > kmymoney2.1.gz > make get-files > make: don't know how to make w. Stop > gmake[3]: *** [index.docbook.tex] Error 2 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2. > > > uname -a > FreeBSD amd_desktop.telfort.nl 6.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p4 #21: Wed Oct 1 08:07:27 CEST 2008 rgilaard@amd_desktop:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 > > What's wrong? > > Brgds > Dino > Hi Dino, I committed the recent update for kmymoney2 0.8.9. I didn't come across this problem, but maybe I can help you solve it. Please send me a copy of /usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en/Makefile so I can have a look at it. Also, please send me the output of "pkg_info | awk '{ print $1 }'. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI+pe70sRouByUApARAtdqAKDHmGhRTmOB0+CzEfFx2J/d6NUsIACdEu7t /dWSqqoWdIrZt7a8XWskcH8= =ucn0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 02:20:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC687106569B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0169.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC708FC1B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B2A211A2B39E; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:20:36 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 984f0b33ad27fc15, 9510f55e4507d164, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org:lists@jnielsen.net, RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:599:601:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1358:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2393:2551:2553:2559:2562:2693:2736:3027:3352:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:3873:3876:3877:4362:5007:6114:7652:8603:8784, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf09.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:20:29 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <200810182203.31467.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <7331B81C-7229-40A6-9B5D-2B5B45071CF3@hughes.net> <200810182203.31467.lists@jnielsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1DAD2FD8-5E45-465F-98EB-F1954EDA3848@hughes.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Pratt Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:20:15 -0700 To: John Nielsen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using mirroring to replace drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:20:38 -0000 On Oct 18, 2008, at 7:03 PM, John Nielsen wrote: > On Saturday 18 October 2008, Chris Pratt wrote: >> >> 1. Is this an appropriate way to deal with this? > > It could be. However if the new disks are not the same size as the > failing > ... > it. Worst case you end up booting from a single drive and have to > manually > specify your root partition. >> > JN Wow, I was asking a concept question and got what appears to be a comprehensive plan. I appreciate the effort, it will save me quite a bit of time. Thanks very much, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 02:41:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8EB106568C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2576B8FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7243116C0209 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:40:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9J2ew2G008606 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:40:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:40:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Inode numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:41:01 -0000 Hi! Because I didn't find sufficient informations and "try and error" would be incomplete (and insecure regarding the result), I'd like to ask the following question: Let's assume we have a directory D with an inode number i(D). It contains a file F with its inode number i(F). May I state that i(D) < i(F)? I need to ask this in order to solve my data loss problem: I will need to write a inode recovery program (having iintensive looks at fsck_ffs' and fsdb's source code) to iterate over all the inodes. Maybe this additional question can be answered: Is there a mechanism that output inode numbers according to a certain algorithm, or is it random? If I would try to check every imaginable inode nummer according to the states "connected", "not connected - orphan" or "not connec- ted - not used", could I iterate from 1 to the maximum of the type ino_t, which is __uint32_t? My idea is to "trace back" orphaned inodes by "brute force" because fsck_ffs doesn't do the job, but similar to fsck_ffs, they will be reconnected to the directory they originally have been gnereated in, or in a kind of lost+found directory when the information from the respective superstructure (e. g. file names) are lost. I may assume that at least the inode of my former home directory has gone away, so if everything else is still there (I have some evidences from fsdb to assume this), after reconnecting everything should be accessible. Only the file names from the first hierarchy level (the files and subdirs directly within the home directory) would change into #123456 as you know it from fsck_ffs' lost+found, but the content inside the subdirs should still be present with the original filenames - assumed that the corresonding inode information structures are still complete. Thanks for comments! And please tell me if there's already a tool that does this! :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 03:09:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BE91065696 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFE78FC19 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9J39PkA011168 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:09:05 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081019030902.GA40659@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: KDE4 general q.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:09:11 -0000 One thing I just confirmed is that the kttsd is missing. Anybody know about this? say, is it missing but just not loaded? It may be time to go back to kde3 for some more months. Feedback, please. tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 05:48:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4D51065688 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D18FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m9J5mXgl053111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m9J5mXKQ053110; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA23129; Sat, 18 Oct 08 22:40:49 PDT Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:46:04 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <48fac99c.v09a2DdmpE7xdWZS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inode numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:48:50 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > Let's assume we have a directory D with an inode number i(D). > It contains a file F with its inode number i(F). > > May I state that i(D) < i(F)? In general, no. It might work in the special case where nothing on the filesystem is ever moved or removed, and no hard links are ever added. As a simple example, suppose I have directories foo and foo/bar, and file foo/baz, with i(foo) == 15, i(foo/baz) == 20, and i(foo/bar) == 25, satisfying your criterion. If I do mv foo/baz foo/bar (so baz is now foo/bar/baz), I will have i(foo/bar) == 25 and i(foo/bar/baz) == 20. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 06:06:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EE01065686 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce.wade@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498698FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce.wade@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so346276uge.39 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:06:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=8h71u/5O+NRYsqUIfRA97OMEM1kBDpFvy4ihrXhpTeg=; b=jKWki6sv7LM6gL+kjnwUhz2Fo+lUNbVVET/qqhljQe8/h2SHcC3d9viitxuujBITPC WbWVcJkZiV3bS3CimczhXMC+Hd7Kw03XiQRdcf8I2J5LyT7PsW4++SZxYdmscSUeljPA ruyGhzY6n7oMnrfrLtbdKI+h+Wp5BmwX7KkKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=SbtGdRxiomwEGmf/mSEXQ9LmaFbx7MT/lxhgpZbPsw1nD/+yLigd4aZmZZzRQWEBtA CYlOEbwuMqIHoZcMFm91ToB05r/Lsilqpz5MlQUWn5HE3AQ8rKEUZ0Fsrwpco4O0onov C2peSj6fXyv6OkB1bYdJ2kRPBYEkb8rsgygrE= Received: by 10.67.116.9 with SMTP id t9mr1249563ugm.65.1224394788562; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.30.7 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44be68830810182239u2616f7b6w9c5b49f0085084bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:39:48 -0700 From: "Bruce Wade" To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Need help with - FreeBSD 7 FTP Config for Drupal Development X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:06:13 -0000 Hello, Today I did a clean install of FreeBSD 7. Installed and configured: Apache: 2.2.9 MySQL Server: 5.0.67 PHP: 5.2.6 Drupal: 6.5 Everything is working with the default install and I can browse my server from other computers. I am able to upload new modules to drupal/sites/all/modules/{module_name} However I have a problem when uploaded themes to drupal/sites/all/themes/{theme_name} for some reason the server gets an access denied error. [Note: this happens when I ftp from Vista and upload.] Seems that I have not set up the FTP correctly. For FTP I am using: Pure - FTPD server 1.0.21 Basicly I need to know how to configure the ftp so when I upload a file to the theme directory the website can still access the directory. drupal is installed at: /usr/local/www/drupal6 permissions: drwxr-xr-x 9 root www 512 drupal6 /sites/all/modules drwxr-xr-x 4 root www 512 modules /sites/all/themes drwxr-xr-x 2 root www 512 themes I have even tried changing the owner for the drupal6 folder and all sub folders/files to the user I am logging in as but that still did not solve the problem. Here is what exactly happens. When I upload a new theme into the correct directory then log into drupal the theme is seen in the list of available themes, so that means the server is seeing the files. Once I activate the theme my web page goes completely white. If I then delete the new theme folder, the web page shows up again stating that the theme.inc file failed because of "access denied". It is strange that with the same process modules work with no problem. Any suggestions? I am still fairly new to FreeBSD maybe it is something simple with permissions that I have overlooked. Regards, -- Bruce Wade Webmaster - http://www.warplydesigned.com - Game Development http://www.kaisingthong.com - Muay Thai Kick Boxing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 09:22:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2C1106568C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from mailout03.t-online.de (mailout03.t-online.de [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7188FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KrUUT-0008T4-00; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:22:25 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (ThimPgZCohmNv6oF-YjMFA4ep+WXF6cWNlmo0ELycIq3swUkS9at4l1YnOx7JhLQfb@[87.181.119.88]) by fwd03.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KrUUJ-0S8lJg0; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:22:15 +0200 Sender: jmk@t-online.de Message-ID: <48FAFE8E.AE1F45C2@t-online.de> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:31:58 +0200 From: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <48F9AD35.396CEE3E@t-online.de> <20081018165328.GA67515@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: ThimPgZCohmNv6oF-YjMFA4ep+WXF6cWNlmo0ELycIq3swUkS9at4l1YnOx7JhLQfb X-TOI-MSGID: 02d9f646-f923-4de4-920d-b085102129a7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: johannes-maria@t-online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:22:30 -0000 Hello, Thank you for your answer. Frank Shute wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:32:37AM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > can anyone tell me how to mount an MP3 player (usb)? > > I seem to be too stupid to figure it out by myself. > > I thought it would be as easy as mounting a usb memory stick > > which I can mount with a device file of the form /dev/da#s#, > > e. g. /dev/da0s1, which is present after connecting the > > memory stick, but not if connecting the player instead; in this > > case I've got only /dev/da1 to /dev/da4. > > I tried all these and also /dev/usb, /dev/usb1, ..., /dev/usb4, > > but that doesn't work (as I expected but tried nevertheless). > > > > If I connect the player to the usb bus I get the following in > > /var/log/messages: > > > > | kernel: umass1: TrekStor TrekStor, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 > > It should say more after that. Can you post it? no; it's only this one line at the end of /var/log/messages, but if I type dmesg I find | umass1: TrekStor TrekStor, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error | Opened disk da1 -> 6 | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Medium not present | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Unretryable error | Opened disk da2 -> 6 | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Medium not present | (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Unretryable error | Opened disk da1 -> 6 | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Medium not present | (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Unretryable error | Opened disk da2 -> 6 | (da3:umass-sim0:0:0:2): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 40 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | (da3:umass-sim0:0:0:2): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error | (da3:umass-sim0:0:0:2): SCSI Status: Check Condition | (da3:umass-sim0:0:0:2): NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 | (da3:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Medium not present | (da3:umass-sim0:0:0:2): Unretryable error | Opened disk da3 -> 6 | (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:3): READ CAPACITY. CDB: 25 60 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:3): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error | (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:3): SCSI Status: Check Condition | (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:3): NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 | (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:3): Medium not present | (da4:umass-sim0:0:0:3): Unretryable error | Opened disk da4 -> 6 > > and from usblist: > > > > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da1,pass0) > > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 1 (da2,pass1) > > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 2 (da3,pass2) > > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 3 (da4,pass3) > > > > > > It looks like your player has a number of areas of storage e:g SD > card, flash card, it's own internal memory etc. and they all have an > associated device node: > > $ ls /dev | grep da da1 da2 da3 da4 > You can manipulate these devices with camcontrol(8) E.g: > > # camcontrol stop 1:0:0 > # camcontrol rescan 1:0:0 > # camcontrol load 1:0:0 # camcontrol stop 1:0:0 Unit stopped successfully # camcontrol rescan 1:0:0 Re-scan of 1:0:0 was successful # camcontrol load 1:0:0 Unit started successfully, Media loaded > should initialise /dev/da0 (the SD card?) # ls /dev/da0 ls: /dev/da0: No such file or directory # ls /dev/da* /dev/da1 /dev/da2 /dev/da3 /dev/da4 > Then: > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt/dos I tried it with all available /dev/da* devices: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da#: Device not configured > will mount it & you can read/write files from it. > > When you're finished: > > # umount /mnt/dos > # camcontrol eject 1:0:0 > > If you have problems, post back the signifigant parts of > /var/log/messages and any other errors. > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html Thanks Johannes-Maria From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 09:29:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9203106568C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com (spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com [74.202.142.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2FD8FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from mail pickup service by spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:28:26 -0700 auth-sender: raggen@passagen.se Received: from 10.1.106.26 unverified ([10.1.106.26]) by spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com with Mail2World SMTP Server; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:28:25 -0700 Thread-Topic: gconcat question Received: from [90.230.141.139] by passagen.se with HTTP; 10/19/2008 2:28:25 AM PST X-M2WAction: reply thread-index: AckxzQlGIMwGrwwnT8aLyK+CVTuMCQ== From: "Roger Olofsson" To: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:28:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2008 09:28:26.0477 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A2121D0:01C931CD] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gconcat question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:29:05 -0000 <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> >From: John Nielsen [lists@jnielsen.net] >Sent: 19/10/2008 3:39:00 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: raggen@passagen.se >Subject: Re: gconcat question > >On Saturday 18 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: >> What are the steps to bring back gconcatenated disks if doing an upgrade >> from FreeBSD6 to FreeBSD7 like this? >> >> As-is situation: >> FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE ad0 has FreeBSD ad1, ad2 and ad3 are gconcatenated >> using 'gconcat label -v data /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 /dev/ad3'. > >The concat device should just appear automatically after the upgrade as long >as you (continue to) load the geom_concat kernel module. Be aware that if >the on-disk metadata format has changed then it will automatically be >upgraded. This is usually a good thing but if you need to roll back to 6.x >for some reason it's something to take into consideration. > >> Planned upgrade: >> Reboot from cdrom, install FreeBSD7 from cd to ad0 > >Just curious, is there a reason you're going this route instead of upgrading >from source? > >JN >. > Hello John and thank you for your reply! Follow-up question - /dev contains a /dev/concat/label entry - is this entry created when loader.conf invokes the kernel module? The machine won't be rollbacked so that's not an issue. The reason for following this route is that it's faster than doing it from source (it's an old machine). The machine has been a playground and has alot of ports installed that aren't being used anymore. The concatenated drives contain data only hence the need to preserve those. /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 11:17:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD00A1065698 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A1758FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 44891 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2008 11:17:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gAcWbkAv0FyayTEJmzWqCMxo7UdD+L+aNwuRssSp7lPMmp5fzI3dkdzCHu/UBpnZjz9thoQMGTlevMXW4EZTvHNdLjgQY5p1tb0cSJowhxfS2nHaIOeQUb/S+gGz9g49QfAu3b89iCyktLIkMKufznin6B4XNScb3SOmlm7rqf8=; X-YMail-OSG: rMKNLwwVM1kviCAx1UB.eNY3fhZekC1_zbfK98EdR_1z_CIRL3iy9mVkRiWFX0ppWrs_VmVxfS1dMSOoOD0TttbHCroTDL3PeT9MTaaEMnHsx4NbbUhc5WQjuKXbr6LtG71T5I.XIviIHPRu0EinpUN2XHO7vmNJbZnZm_s7n33G4o1NTHyanMhAnYY- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:17:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:17:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Dino Vliet To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1914555240-1224415065=:44443" Message-ID: <648870.44443.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: alecn2002@yandex.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error installing kmymoney2 on amd64 system running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:17:46 -0000 --0-1914555240-1224415065=:44443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- On Sun, 10/19/08, Greg Larkin wrote: From: Greg Larkin Subject: Re: error installing kmymoney2 on amd64 system running freebsd 6.3 To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, alecn2002@yandex.ru Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 4:13 AM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dino Vliet wrote: > Hi freebsd peeps, > > Who can help me sort this error out when I try to installl kmymoney2 on my amd64 system. The error I get is: > > test ! -f sk.gmo || touch sk.gmo > rm -f es_AR.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o es_AR.gmo ./es_AR.po > test ! -f es_AR.gmo || touch es_AR.gmo > rm -f pt_BR.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o pt_BR.gmo ./pt_BR.po > test ! -f pt_BR.gmo || touch pt_BR.gmo > rm -f es.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o es.gmo ./es.po > test ! -f es.gmo || touch es.gmo > rm -f fr.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o fr.gmo ./fr.po > test ! -f fr.gmo || touch fr.gmo > rm -f nl.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o nl.gmo ./nl.po > test ! -f nl.gmo || touch nl.gmo > rm -f pt.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o pt.gmo ./pt.po > test ! -f pt.gmo || touch pt.gmo > rm -f en_GB.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o en_GB.gmo ./en_GB.po > test ! -f en_GB.gmo || touch en_GB.gmo > rm -f ca.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o ca.gmo ./ca.po > test ! -f ca.gmo || touch ca.gmo > rm -f gl.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o gl.gmo ./gl.po > test ! -f gl.gmo || touch gl.gmo > rm -f ru.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o ru.gmo ./ru.po > test ! -f ru.gmo || touch ru.gmo > rm -f zh_CN.gmo; /usr/local/bin/msgfmt -o zh_CN.gmo ./zh_CN.po > test ! -f zh_CN.gmo || touch zh_CN.gmo > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/po' > Making all in doc > gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc' > Making all in en > gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en' > if test -n "/usr/local/bin/meinproc"; then echo /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 --stylesheet /usr/local/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl ./index.docbook; /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 --stylesheet /usr/local/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl ./index.docbook; fi > /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 --stylesheet /usr/local/share/apps/ksgmltools2/customization/kde-chunk.xsl ./index.docbook > gzip -9 -c -N ../../doc/en/kmymoney2.1 > kmymoney2.1.gz > make get-files > make: don't know how to make w. Stop > gmake[3]: *** [index.docbook.tex] Error 2 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en' > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2. > > > uname -a > FreeBSD amd_desktop.telfort.nl 6.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p4 #21: Wed Oct 1 08:07:27 CEST 2008 rgilaard@amd_desktop:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL amd64 > > What's wrong? > > Brgds > Dino > Hi Dino, I committed the recent update for kmymoney2 0.8.9. I didn't come across this problem, but maybe I can help you solve it. Please send me a copy of /usr/ports/finance/kmymoney2/work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en/Makefile so I can have a look at it. Also, please send me the output of "pkg_info | awk '{ print $1 }'. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI+pe70sRouByUApARAtdqAKDHmGhRTmOB0+CzEfFx2J/d6NUsIACdEu7t /dWSqqoWdIrZt7a8XWskcH8= =ucn0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Hi Greg Here the tow output file pkg_info_output.txt and the Makefile as attachments because otherwise this messsage would be too large (I know that the freebsd mailinglist will not let my message through) Brgds Dino __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:18:10 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:32:37AM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > can anyone tell me how to mount an MP3 player (usb)? > I seem to be too stupid to figure it out by myself. > I thought it would be as easy as mounting a usb memory stick > which I can mount with a device file of the form /dev/da#s#, > e. g. /dev/da0s1, which is present after connecting the > memory stick, but not if connecting the player instead; in this > case I've got only /dev/da1 to /dev/da4. Are there any filesystems on these devices? Try 'file -s /dev/da*' and post the results. 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ORG" Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:00:49 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2008 12:00:16.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[4006FEE0:01C931E2] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: KDE and yahoo IM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:17:24 -0000 Does anyone have yahoo instant messenger working on KDE desktop?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 13:50:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAA710656A6 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@vocaboly.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC03C8FC17 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@vocaboly.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so2631239gxk.19 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.156.12 with SMTP id i12mr3991511ybo.240.1224422547392; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.117.9 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <565ddad50810190622s7fa76ce2la293cb4f9e8b496a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:22:27 -0700 From: Kevin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Bind BIND 9.3.5 configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:50:20 -0000 I installed bind 9.3.5 on my new FreeBSD 6.3 server. I copied named.conf directly from my old server (originally from the Internet), it seems working fine but with some startup errors. I hope someone can explain or tune the configuration a little bit for me, any input would be greatly appreciated. Q1. Bind gave me errors on the following lines due to missing files, I have only empty.db, localhost-forward.db and localhost-reverse.db. Should I modify all localhost.rev to localhost-reverse.db? Is it safe to remove all lines about localhost-v6.rev? ------------------------------------------- zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "master/localhost.rev"; }; // RFC 3152 zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA" { type master; file "master/localhost-v6.rev"; }; // RFC 1886 -- deprecated zone "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.INT" { type master; file "master/localhost-v6.rev"; }; zone "localhost" IN { type master; file "master/localhost.rev"; allow-update { none; }; }; --------------------------------------------------- Q2. Regarding the following lines, it seems that I should uncomment the forwarders, is it the the same IP in /etc/resolv.conf? Or I need to ask my ISP? --------------------------------------------------- // If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter // its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you // benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet. /* forwarders { 127.0.0.1; }; */ Q3. About the following comments, should I enable a local name server? and how to do it exactly? I have added 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf, but how to enable it in /etc/rc.conf? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ // If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1 // first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried. // Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf. I have used this configuration for several years and always quite confused. I have put my named.conf at http://www.msofficeforums.com/named.conf . Please give me some suggestions. Thanks! Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 14:11:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F878106569A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-4.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-4.gradwell.net [79.135.125.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862678FC29 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd01@dgmm.net) Received: from 82-39-74-96.cable.ubr02.jarr.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.39.74.96] helo=webmaker country=GB ident=dave*pop3$dgmm&net) by v-smtp-auth-relay-4.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.301) id 48fb3cd8.3588.c81 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:57:44 +0100 (envelope-sender ) From: dgmm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:57:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <48F9AD35.396CEE3E@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <48F9AD35.396CEE3E@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810191457.43565.freebsd01@dgmm.net> Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:11:33 -0000 On Saturday 18 October 2008, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > Hello, > > can anyone tell me how to mount an MP3 player (usb)? > I seem to be too stupid to figure it out by myself. > I thought it would be as easy as mounting a usb memory stick > which I can mount with a device file of the form /dev/da#s#, > e. g. /dev/da0s1, which is present after connecting the > memory stick, but not if connecting the player instead; in this > case I've got only /dev/da1 to /dev/da4. > I tried all these and also /dev/usb, /dev/usb1, ..., /dev/usb4, > but that doesn't work (as I expected but tried nevertheless). > > If I connect the player to the usb bus I get the following in > > /var/log/messages: > | kernel: umass1: TrekStor TrekStor, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 > > and from usblist: > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da1,pass0) > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 1 (da2,pass1) > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 2 (da3,pass2) > | at scbus1 target 0 lun 3 (da4,pass3) > > and from usbdevs: > | Controller /dev/usb4: > | addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), > | Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered > | port 2 powered > | port 3 powered > | port 4 powered > | port 5 powered > | port 6 addr 2: high speed, power 400 mA, config 1, TrekStor(0x2791), > | TrekStor(0x071b), rev 1.00 port 7 powered > | port 8 powered > > Which device file should I use (or create?) to get access > to this MP3 player? > > (I'm using FreeBSD 6.0) Have you tried just mounting da0 etc? The may not be any slices. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 10:35:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4CA1065698 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benoit@goyave.org) Received: from postfix1-g20.free.fr (postfix1-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504FD8FC16 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benoit@goyave.org) Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by postfix1-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4842CC377D for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5712B717 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (nor75-3-82-226-36-211.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.36.211]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA93812B73B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:18:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FB0987.6090407@goyave.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:18:47 +0200 From: Benoit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:11 +0000 Subject: Freebsd7 mingw32 compilation utilities missing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:35:40 -0000 Hello, i don't know if it's the good section to talk about it... Yesterday, i want to "cross-compile" an old windows program, so i installed mingw32-bin-msvcrt-r3.12.a3.9 but i can't compile because the compiler and others tools are missing on freeBSD 7, i guess. I guess it because on freeBSD 6, i can see many other packages like mingw32-binutils mingw-gcc etc etc. So my question is : how to have on freeBSD 7, all packages required to build my program ? Thanks for all Benoit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 13:29:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D3A1065677 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from mx0.ukgrid.net (mx0.ukgrid.net [89.107.16.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68188FC1B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net) Received: from [89.107.17.204] (port=61717 helo=80.32.136.226) by mx0.ukgrid.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69; FreeBSD) auth-from a.smith@ukgrid.net envelope-from a.smith@ukgrid.net id 1KrYLl-000AuT-97; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:29:41 +0100 Received: from phpmailer ([80.32.136.226]) by 80.32.136.226 with HTTP (UebiMiau); Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:31:07 +0100 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:31:07 +0100 To: Jerry McAllister , andys From: Andy Smith Message-ID: <0c38a3dc9cee1bbe4fa9132560584c9f@80.32.136.226> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: UebiMiau [PHPMailer version 1.70] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:38 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andy Smith List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:29:44 -0000 Hi Jerry, ok thanks for the answer, its not very good news for me ;( as Ive already done alot of config and installed alot of apps, but anyway thats my problem now! cheers Andy! --------- Original Message -------- From: "Jerry McAllister" To: "andys" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install Date: 17/10/08 18:11 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote: > Hi, > > on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see the > following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this or is > the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up without > even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix the > prob? Is this safe to do? > > bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1 > # /dev/da0s1: > type: SCSI > disk: da0s1 > label: > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > cylinders: 17750 > sectors/unit: 285155328 > rpm: 3600 > interleave: 1 > trackskew: 0 > cylinderskew: 0 > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > drivedata: 0 > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > b: 20971520 75497472 swap > c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > edit > d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system > utilities > > thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk > management as I havent used it much, If you were using sysinstall, I am not sure how this would come up. Do you have more than one slice on the disk - that which MS refers to as a 'primary partition'? Something you might do to create a 'dual boot' machine. Are you in the position where you can just wipe it and do a reinstall? I wouldn't just move or resize the c partition after the fact. The c partition should be equal to the size of the slice it is in. That should just be true after the fdisk part of the operation unless there is something wrong with the size or alignment of the slice itself. And, in that case, I would expect it to have complained way back in the sysinstall-fdisk part of the process. So, I would start over if I could. Just some pictorial perspective to make it easier (I hope) to visualize. Whole device ____________________________________________________________ | slice 1 : FreeBSD Slice 2 : slice 3 : Slice 4 | | : : : | | :<- partition c ->: : | |Some MS thing : ' ' ' ' : Some Linux : Extra | | :pa' pb ' pd ' pe ' pn: thing : slice | | : ' ' ' ' : : | | : ' ' ' ' : : | ------------------------------------------------------------- A device (whole disk) can have up to 4 slices labeled 1..4. Each slice can be of different types. MS calls slices 'primary partitions'. Each FreeBSD type slice can be divided in to "8" (really 7) partitions that are labeled a..h. But, c must be used to define the whole slice. Slices are created by fdisk. Fdisk also writes the device's MBR. Partitions are created by bsdlabel (disk label in early versions of FreeBSD) bsdlabel also writes the slice's boot block. It is possible to leave empty space in the whole disk that is not allocated to any slice or within any given slice that is not allocated to any partition. The total of a..h not counting c, plus any non- allocated space, must add up to c. It is possible to create what someone has dubbed a 'dangerously dedicated' disk and just not create slices, but just use bsdlabel to divide the whole disk in to FreeBSD partitions a-h. The c partition must still refer to the whole space available for FreeBSD partitioning. I think it is also possible to just newfs the disk without using either fdisk or bsdlabel and create one filesystem without slices or partitions. I haven't tried it. Both fdisk and bsdlabel are supposed to keep track of the sizes correctly, automatically. That is why I suggest starting over. If you use sysinstall, it calls fdisk and bsdlabel for you and you don't have to do it separately unless you want to look and see what it did. ////jerry > > thanks Andy. > _______________________________________________ > [1]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > [2]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ________________________________________________ Message sent using UK Grid Webmail 2.7.9 References 1. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 2. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 14:21:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1C2106568F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23DE8FC38 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UcfB1a0090vp7WLA8eMw90; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:56 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UeMu1a0072P6wsM8ReMuQp; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:55 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xL4GunjQAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=M78pEtdNGVJdDPCeRP0A:9 a=S5bNr85xpL01Bo5DdUUA:7 a=k55gtVpWPyjMfOhtGGudWu_YbjoA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 915C9C9437; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:21:54 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Kevin Message-ID: <20081019142154.GA78159@icarus.home.lan> References: <565ddad50810190622s7fa76ce2la293cb4f9e8b496a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <565ddad50810190622s7fa76ce2la293cb4f9e8b496a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind BIND 9.3.5 configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:21:57 -0000 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 06:22:27AM -0700, Kevin wrote: > I installed bind 9.3.5 on my new FreeBSD 6.3 server. I copied > named.conf directly from my old server (originally from the Internet), Since you've done this, you should use mergemaster to interactively merge the changes in the system default src/etc/namedb/named.conf into yours. This should solve any errors you receive. > Q1. Bind gave me errors on the following lines due to missing files, I > have only empty.db, localhost-forward.db and localhost-reverse.db. > Should I modify all localhost.rev to localhost-reverse.db? Is it safe > to remove all lines about localhost-v6.rev? See above. > Q2. Regarding the following lines, it seems that I should uncomment > the forwarders, is it the the same IP in /etc/resolv.conf? Or I need > to ask my ISP? > --------------------------------------------------- > // If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter > // its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you > // benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the Internet. > /* > forwarders { > 127.0.0.1; > }; > */ No, you don't need to ask your ISP, and no, you don't need to enable forwarders unless you want to. You should read the official BIND docs on what forwarders do, to get the full understanding. :-) > Q3. About the following comments, should I enable a local name server? > and how to do it exactly? I have added 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf, but > how to enable it in /etc/rc.conf? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > // If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1 > // first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried. > // Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf. > > I have used this configuration for several years and always quite > confused. I have put my named.conf at > http://www.msofficeforums.com/named.conf . Please give me some > suggestions. Thanks! You should put "nameserver 127.0.0.1" in /etc/resolv.conf, that way your own local machine as a resolver (e.g. will rely on the BIND/named daemon). /etc/rc.conf is used to enable BIND/named on startup. You should place the following there: named_enable="yes" -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. 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ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <582796.79016.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: KDE and yahoo IM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:38:57 -0000 --- On Sun, 10/19/08, FBSD1 wrote: > From: FBSD1 > Subject: KDE and yahoo IM > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:00 AM > Does anyone have yahoo instant messenger working on KDE > desktop?? My suggestion would be to use Kopete or Pidgin. These are KDE-based and Gtk+ based, respectively, instant messaging clients. AFAIK, the official yahoo messenger client for FreeBSD has not been maintained for quite some while. - mdh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 15:53:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B4F1065696 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6F58FC12 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from insp.local (rrcs-74-218-226-253.se.biz.rr.com [74.218.226.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9JFr163037792; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:53:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: "Roger Olofsson" Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:52:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810191152.52260.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gconcat question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:53:03 -0000 On Sunday 19 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: > <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> > > >From: John Nielsen [lists@jnielsen.net] > >Sent: 19/10/2008 3:39:00 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Cc: raggen@passagen.se > >Subject: Re: gconcat question > > > >On Saturday 18 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: > >> What are the steps to bring back gconcatenated disks if doing an > >> upgrade from FreeBSD6 to FreeBSD7 like this? > >> > >> As-is situation: > >> FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE ad0 has FreeBSD ad1, ad2 and ad3 are gconcatenated > >> using 'gconcat label -v data /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 /dev/ad3'. > > > >The concat device should just appear automatically after the upgrade as > >long as you (continue to) load the geom_concat kernel module. Be aware > >that if > >the on-disk metadata format has changed then it will automatically be > >upgraded. This is usually a good thing but if you need to roll back to > >6.x for some reason it's something to take into consideration. > > > >> Planned upgrade: > >> Reboot from cdrom, install FreeBSD7 from cd to ad0 > > > >Just curious, is there a reason you're going this route instead of > >upgrading from source? > > Hello John and thank you for your reply! > > Follow-up question - /dev contains a /dev/concat/label entry - is this > entry created when loader.conf invokes the kernel module? Yes. Many of the GEOM modules (label, mirror, concat, stripe, etc) create nodes in the relevant subdirectories in /dev as soon as they "taste" the drives (or other providers) and discover metadata belonging to them. This is generally when they are loaded (if modules) or at boot time (if compiled into the kernel or preloaded by loader.conf). Any time you insert a device (such as a USB stick) the loaded modules also have an opportunity to "taste" it and create nodes as appropriate. > The machine won't be rollbacked so that's not an issue. > > The reason for following this route is that it's faster than doing it > from source (it's an old machine). The machine has been a playground and > has alot of ports installed that aren't being used anymore. The > concatenated drives contain data only hence the need to preserve those. Makes sense. :) JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 16:25:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66110656CC for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BB38FC1A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701BAFD06C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:25:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (tethys.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6F8FD067 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:25:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FB5F6C.6070205@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:25:16 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Postfix communicating with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:25:21 -0000 Dear FQ, I recently got attacked with some dsl subscribers of this (imaginary) some.net domain. These subscribers present themselves as [ip address.dynamic.some.net]. Postfix SMTP server: errors from 66-66-66-166.dynamic.some.net [66.66.66.166] What I would like to do is to generate a some.net list with all these dynamic ip addresses and provide them to my ipfw firewall in order to block them on the moment that they try to relay a 2nd time thru my server. This will cause less process time as it is quicker to send someone home by the doorkeeper (ipfw) rather than check his credentials first (Postfix) and tell him to get lost. Is there any way to let postfix 'communicate' with my ipfw firewall? Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 16:52:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1532106568C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820CD8FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7306216C008A; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:52:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9JGqOG3001610; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:52:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:52:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20081019185224.d0ce3bd3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <48fac99c.v09a2DdmpE7xdWZS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <48fac99c.v09a2DdmpE7xdWZS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inode numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:52:27 -0000 On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:46:04 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > It might work in the special case where nothing > on the filesystem is ever moved or removed, and no hard links are > ever added. > > As a simple example, suppose I have directories foo and foo/bar, > and file foo/baz, with i(foo) == 15, i(foo/baz) == 20, and > i(foo/bar) == 25, satisfying your criterion. If I do > > mv foo/baz foo/bar > > (so baz is now foo/bar/baz), I will have i(foo/bar) == 25 and > i(foo/bar/baz) == 20. Thank you for this example. So I cannot assume inode numbers to be in a specific order. It will force me to do what I originally intended to do: Iterate from 2 up to the maximal number and then check the availability, and, if given, "trace back" the ".. chain" to an existing directory entry point - or re-create one, if it is missing, too. Will be a lot of work, but I think I can learn much from this. Remember, kids: Learning is fun. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 17:35:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8A91065679 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5E88FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8213A5C79 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:35:46 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1224437743; bh=+QSFM5DIac+w0hcNcDBEv/plQaNe vQ4cerrfk4IjN5w=; b=U8GtJxA9gvThyH8GLySV/H39z8ByjSHmVL6gbHGeYGBI c5EQXXF48UkGqL8x5oVr6GAplHq4Y3Nw5pNIST9PyN0uWzq19/4TshPK5xBcaXD8 I0y5gNTRocyhKIASQIcVuFf7rbsdCqjuI1KfkHRUu2D8oOI3i07e1jJ5scRDVdw= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id P58d3387Vtqi for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:34:57 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081019173456.GA53615@shepherd> References: <48FB5F6C.6070205@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FB5F6C.6070205@webrz.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Postfix communicating with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:35:01 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I recently got attacked with some dsl subscribers of this (imaginary) > some.net domain. > > These subscribers present themselves as [ip address.dynamic.some.net]. > Postfix SMTP server: errors from 66-66-66-166.dynamic.some.net > [66.66.66.166] > > What I would like to do is to generate a some.net list with all these > dynamic ip addresses and provide them to my ipfw firewall in order to block > them on the moment that they try to relay a 2nd time thru my server. This > will cause less process time as it is quicker to send someone home by the > doorkeeper (ipfw) rather than check his credentials first (Postfix) and > tell him to get lost. True, but Postfix can handle these rejects just fine though YMMV depending on your load and other aspects of your setup to which we aren't privy. > Is there any way to let postfix 'communicate' with my ipfw firewall? No, but you can write a script that parses your maillog and accordingly updates firewall rules. Tools like fail2ban are often mentioned here -- check the archives and adapt as necessary. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 18:06:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C17106567F for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D7B8FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238685C79 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:07:37 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1224439654; bh=G+ed3cX9uSxbG8VLUflZvHqf7UMc 7SA5ih0QUJHXg6o=; b=L8zm2d2hBP4BmnFnYGUuBX2yR/l6ilKh/FfBhRw4ugtZ LDx8Lc3mzC52HV606N23b/Bw8WPtriRfeDsDMYZL1q9eWYZGyj2UO03rwZrRq+ou Dz1A72sQH0No5d90Xel5d/Jg/d6fQkeb2cSrpqxZMiIutA+aDTiyIkTRgmqjZ68= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id qDzB35UdWWWm for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:06:48 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081019180648.GA53695@shepherd> References: <48FB5F6C.6070205@webrz.net> <20081019173456.GA53615@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081019173456.GA53615@shepherd> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Postfix communicating with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:06:51 -0000 Sahil Tandon wrote: > Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > > I recently got attacked with some dsl subscribers of this (imaginary) > > some.net domain. > > > > These subscribers present themselves as [ip address.dynamic.some.net]. > > Postfix SMTP server: errors from 66-66-66-166.dynamic.some.net > > [66.66.66.166] One more thing: I use the following PCRE to block dynamic-looking IPs at SMTP and it really isn't resource intensive. /\d+([-\.]\d+){3}/ REJECT Generic hostnames prohibited. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 19:11:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CD4106566C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com (spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com [74.202.142.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9918C8FC1B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raggen@passagen.se) Received: from mail pickup service by spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:10:39 -0700 auth-sender: raggen@passagen.se Received: from 10.1.106.26 unverified ([10.1.106.26]) by spsmtp02oc.mail2world.com with Mail2World SMTP Server; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:10:39 -0700 Thread-Topic: gconcat question SOLVED Received: from [90.230.141.139] by passagen.se with HTTP; 10/19/2008 12:10:39 PM PST X-M2WAction: reply thread-index: AckyHl+wgevKyQo3QwmswTo0dvvzSw== From: "Roger Olofsson" To: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:10:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2008 19:10:39.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[601FBC30:01C9321E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gconcat question SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:11:42 -0000 <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> >From: John Nielsen [lists@jnielsen.net] >Sent: 19/10/2008 5:52:51 PM >To: raggen@passagen.se >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: gconcat question > >On Sunday 19 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: >> <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> >> >> >From: John Nielsen [lists@jnielsen.net] >> >Sent: 19/10/2008 3:39:00 AM >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >Cc: raggen@passagen.se >> >Subject: Re: gconcat question >> > >> >On Saturday 18 October 2008, Roger Olofsson wrote: >> >> What are the steps to bring back gconcatenated disks if doing an >> >> upgrade from FreeBSD6 to FreeBSD7 like this? >> >> >> >> As-is situation: >> >> FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE ad0 has FreeBSD ad1, ad2 and ad3 are >gconcatenated >> >> using 'gconcat label -v data /dev/ad1 /dev/ad2 /dev/ad3'. >> > >> >The concat device should just appear automatically after the upgrade as >> >long as you (continue to) load the geom_concat kernel module. Be aware >> >that if >> >the on-disk metadata format has changed then it will automatically be >> >upgraded. This is usually a good thing but if you need to roll back to >> >6.x for some reason it's something to take into consideration. >> > >> >> Planned upgrade: >> >> Reboot from cdrom, install FreeBSD7 from cd to ad0 >> > >> >Just curious, is there a reason you're going this route instead of >> >upgrading from source? >> >> Hello John and thank you for your reply! >> >> Follow-up question - /dev contains a /dev/concat/label entry - is this >> entry created when loader.conf invokes the kernel module? > >Yes. Many of the GEOM modules (label, mirror, concat, stripe, etc) create >nodes in the relevant subdirectories in /dev as soon as they "taste" the >drives (or other providers) and discover metadata belonging to them. This >is generally when they are loaded (if modules) or at boot time (if compiled >into the kernel or preloaded by loader.conf). Any time you insert a device >(such as a USB stick) the loaded modules also have an opportunity >to "taste" it and create nodes as appropriate. > >> The machine won't be rollbacked so that's not an issue. >> >> The reason for following this route is that it's faster than doing it >> from source (it's an old machine). The machine has been a playground and >> has alot of ports installed that aren't being used anymore. The >> concatenated drives contain data only hence the need to preserve those. > >Makes sense. :) > >JN >. > Thank you John, it worked excellent! /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 20:01:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69CD1065670 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CF48FC1C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CA3FD06C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (tethys.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43EBFD067 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FB9212.1070202@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:22 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <48FB5F6C.6070205@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <48FB5F6C.6070205@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: Postfix communicating with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:01:24 -0000 Thank you all for sharing your expertise! I will follow all the suggestions that have been made in order to solve the matter. Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 20:09:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFAC106567C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9B78FC1B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 350CA4AC15C for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39763-04 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [72.64.244.53]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 183CC4AC161 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:55:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:51:08 -0400 Message-Id: <1224445868.6926.3.camel@laptop.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Subject: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:09:33 -0000 I took a working 5.4-i386 server and trying to convert its RAID 5 to RAID 10 and load 7.0 amd64. I kept getting BTX halted even after flashing the latest bios and firmware for the raid card, Intel SRCZCR, in this dual Xeon 2.4GHz supermicro superserver. I have another server, bit newer, but same basic hardware makeup with Xeon 3.0 procs that runs 6.1-amd64 fine. Anyway, so I have resorted to the i386 version of 7.0 to see if the server is just incapable of running amd64, which after passing the initial boot where amd64 failed, now gives me the subject error after some reference to GEOM_LABEL. I did rebuild the RAID to RAID-10, can someone tell me what this error means? http://columbus.webtent.org/freebsd.png Thanks for any guidance. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 20:09:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1983106567D for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7848FC17 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 2F6C94AC167 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40448-01 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [72.64.244.53]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Gateway) with ESMTP id 99D9F4AC161 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:53:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:50:01 -0400 Message-Id: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Subject: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:09:33 -0000 I took a working 5.4-i386 server and trying to convert its RAID 5 to RAID 10 and load 7.0 amd64. I kept getting BTX halted even after flashing the latest bios and firmware for the raid card, Intel SRCZCR, in this dual Xeon 2.4GHz supermicro superserver. I have another server, bit newer, but same basic hardware makeup with Xeon 3.0 procs that runs 6.1-amd64 fine. Anyway, so I have resorted to the i386 version of 7.0 to see if the server is just incapable of running amd64, which after passing the initial boot where amd64 failed, now gives me the subject error after some reference to GEOM_LABEL. I did rebuild the RAID to RAID-10, can someone tell me what this error means? http://columbus.webtent.org/freebsd.png Thanks for any guidance. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 20:16:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8701065682 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884978FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UeMi1a0040xGWP855kGyLa; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:16:58 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id UkGx1a00B2P6wsM3YkGykZ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:16:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VzWalFZNP_EA:10 a=DLsStemsAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=ouyoXUvKtn7gg7D4dpYA:9 a=Rq-I0Jb7v1D2dxvjo8UA:7 a=YKaOrkBsCk_pPhHAVDYxw5C8ShEA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 887F2C9432; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:16:57 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Robert Fitzpatrick Message-ID: <20081019201657.GA84733@icarus.home.lan> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:16:59 -0000 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 03:50:01PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > I took a working 5.4-i386 server and trying to convert its RAID 5 to > RAID 10 and load 7.0 amd64. I kept getting BTX halted even after > flashing the latest bios and firmware for the raid card, Intel SRCZCR, > in this dual Xeon 2.4GHz supermicro superserver. I have another server, > bit newer, but same basic hardware makeup with Xeon 3.0 procs that runs > 6.1-amd64 fine. Anyway, so I have resorted to the i386 version of 7.0 to > see if the server is just incapable of running amd64, which after > passing the initial boot where amd64 failed, now gives me the subject > error after some reference to GEOM_LABEL. I did rebuild the RAID to > RAID-10, can someone tell me what this error means? > > http://columbus.webtent.org/freebsd.png Can you please try 7.1-BETA2 instead (ISOs are now available)? There have been fixes/improvements to BTX since 7.0-RELEASE which could fix your problem. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 20:37:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA22106566B for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DC78FC1D for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9JKbf9a078639; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:37:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 819C0BA8A; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:37:41 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Benoit Message-ID: <20081019203741.GA80542@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <48FB0987.6090407@goyave.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FB0987.6090407@goyave.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd7 mingw32 compilation utilities missing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:37:45 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:18:47PM +0200, Benoit wrote: > Hello, >=20 > i don't know if it's the good section to talk about it... >=20 > Yesterday, i want to "cross-compile" an old windows program, so i=20 > installed mingw32-bin-msvcrt-r3.12.a3.9 but i can't compile because the= =20 > compiler and others tools are missing on freeBSD 7, i guess. I guess it= =20 > because on freeBSD 6, i can see many other packages like=20 > mingw32-binutils mingw-gcc etc etc. So my question is : how to have on=20 > freeBSD 7, all packages required to build my program ? The devel/mingw32-gcc port/package is the top package/port that you need to install. All other mingw packages/ports are dependancies or optional ext= ras. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj7mpUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV2EgCePPL+kWODyGusLGqqw1U3GHKx c4QAoJns/3nPn1rC2CfRhooi/VAbREgY =ibRo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 00:49:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A4D1065682 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E640E8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.131]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:49:14 -0700 From: "joeb" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:49:49 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2008 00:49:14.0654 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC9BEBE0:01C9324D] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: ports/net-im/gtkyahoo/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:49:22 -0000 Does anyone have the gtkyahoo port working so they can use yahoo instant messenger from a desktop? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 01:55:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F37C1065682 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8148FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 68-189-244-97.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.244.97] helo=Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Krjz8-0000ps-1G; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:55:07 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by Gregory-Larkins-Computer.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACD7264AB38; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48FBE4FC.4090301@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:55:08 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dino Vliet References: <648870.44443.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <648870.44443.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Cc: alecn2002@yandex.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error installing kmymoney2 on amd64 system running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:55:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Dino Vliet wrote: > > > Hi Greg > > > Here the tow output file pkg_info_output.txt and the Makefile > as attachments because otherwise this messsage would be too > large (I know that the freebsd mailinglist will not let my > message through) > > Brgds > Dino > Hi Dino, Can you check in the work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en directory to see if there is a file named errorlog or some other files with a ".log" extension after you receive the make error? If so, please send those as well or post them somewhere for viewing. It looks like the finance/kmymoney2 port Makefile needs additional work to include dependencies on the tools that generate the PDF documentation (pdfjadetex and others). I didn't have those tools originally, and the PDF documentation generation was disabled. I installed the required tools manually, and I now get an error during PDF generation, although it's different than what you reported. The other thing that might be helpful is if you can change directory into work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en, type "make -d a" and capture the output. That will show extra debugging information from make as it processes its targets. By the way, if you don't care about the PDF documentation, you can temporarily change the port Makefile line that reads: CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-ofxplugin --enable-ofxbanking --enable-pdf-docs to: CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-ofxplugin --enable-ofxbanking I'm likely going to make that switch dependent on the NOPORTDOCS knob as well. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI++T80sRouByUApARAvKVAKCRlcugHg6JtyvZa8FR10ukEc//KwCdHyGB 6BAbfMSDEmj47Teb1WZCh18= =c52b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 02:24:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7C1106569E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145D38FC23 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1391823rvf.43 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ln1yo6OFkq0qAY+FJTRz6suHiAWXbln1MW/gNbTbG2s=; b=H6hXU0Lorn2qov+fsOvsLuWBdtfqKVaz2T3CKO/bmSfdHspgVrlegAwX6Pigmqg95M UfdxL/d+i0wt3AIMBV0xg34Zf8PdGvs2fbIl12Y4hKrrTVtXjkePbZSAyA7Es1lQwmQF lQpRguLYpTsY8YDbc3qYNTXl4lQOnhV90X0O0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=dTYlFsE2aXkuCRnebHlQCkjcwrUCEbRVnI+YPxLBdDU2DsU304SSMZi8VilmAtD0j5 02E0bSx0UxEW1zI8OfksvhJpbIFwgWZLNS68b5Rt8nCLaWaqmyo8k3l8vDci3zisc80L 7wn3qBY54ri4q0yOFEfLna5UkrfRf6sm6T78Y= Received: by 10.141.197.21 with SMTP id z21mr4447136rvp.91.1224469449528; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr ([211.53.35.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21sm17718094rvb.5.2008.10.19.19.24.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (localhost.cdnetworks.co.kr [127.0.0.1]) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m9K2M7AC039476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:22:07 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: (from yongari@localhost) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id m9K2M6H5039475; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:22:06 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:22:06 +0900 From: Pyun YongHyeon To: Aniruddha Message-ID: <20081020022205.GF38923@cdnetworks.co.kr> References: <1224054780.4011.20.camel@debian> <20081015072630.GA70901@icarus.home.lan> <1224069478.4247.7.camel@debian> <20081015113101.GA76278@icarus.home.lan> <20081015120911.GI14769@cdnetworks.co.kr> <1224080661.5407.2.camel@debian> <20081015235638.GA22992@cdnetworks.co.kr> <1224249708.4053.0.camel@debian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1224249708.4053.0.camel@debian> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Under heavy load internet gets killed, only a reboot can bring it back up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:24:10 -0000 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:21:48PM +0200, Aniruddha wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 08:56 +0900, Pyun YongHyeon wrote: > > It seems that msk(4) in HEAD does not build correctly on RELENG_7. > > Try attached patch. > > > > Save attached patch to /path/to/patch > > #cd /usr/src/sys/dev/msk > > #patch -p0 < /path/to/patch/msk.watchdog.diff > > And rebuild your kernel. > > This patch failed with the following error: > > /if_msk.c > /usr/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c:845:50: error: macro "MEXTADD" passed 8 > arguments, but takes just 7 > /usr/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c: In function 'msk_jumbo_newbuf': > /usr/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c:844: error: 'MEXTADD' undeclared (first > use in this function) > /usr/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c:844: error: (Each undeclared identifier is > reported only once > /usr/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c:844: error: for each function it appears > in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. Are you sure you've backed out any changes to if_msk.c/if_mskreg.h? You should apply the patch above to if_msk.c/if_mskreg.h in 7.1-PRELEASE. I've verified compilation testing and it should build without problems. -- Regards, Pyun YongHyeon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 02:24:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6406106566C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946338FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m9K2OZhH084417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m9K2OZ07084416; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA25517; Sun, 19 Oct 08 19:12:49 PDT Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:18:00 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <48fbea58.MJTNxk/Em/TmZNW9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <48fac99c.v09a2DdmpE7xdWZS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20081019185224.d0ce3bd3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081019185224.d0ce3bd3.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inode numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:24:51 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > ... It will force me to > do what I originally intended to do: Iterate from 2 up > to the maximal number and then check the availability, > and, if given, "trace back" the ".. chain" to an existing > directory entry point - or re-create one, if it is missing, > too. Will be a lot of work, but I think I can learn much > from this. You may be able to reuse some code from dump(8). When doing an incremental dump, it reads through the inodes, makes a list of those which are newer than the previous dump, then recursively locates all parent directories of selected inodes and adds them to the list. (When doing a level 0 dump, it does the same thing but by definition every inode is selected.) Having done all that, it dumps all the selected directories followed by the rest of the selected inodes. Dump's purpose is to ensure that the dump will be complete in the sense of containing the full path to any file that is on the tape, and your purpose is different, but I suspect much of the "find parent" logic may be reusable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 03:42:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B9D106567B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21CC8FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from [207.194.42.90] (helo=[192.168.1.23]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KrlKU-000Ix8-UQ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:21:17 -0700 Message-ID: <48FBF92B.5010103@ccstores.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:21:15 -0700 From: fquest Organization: City Centre Stores Ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (90) Cc: Subject: syslogd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:42:13 -0000 Is there a way to re-configure how syslogd presents the date in the syslog files? Presently, the date is usually MMM DD I would prefer YYYYMMDD however I cannot find anywhere where this is possible. TIA, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 04:58:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49140106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050818FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.135] (port=58745 helo=smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Krmq9-0001ho-KG; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:58:01 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Krmpz-0002NI-D6; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:57:51 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F72B39841; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:57:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FC0FCC.3030906@boosten.org> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:57:48 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fquest References: <48FBF92B.5010103@ccstores.com> In-Reply-To: <48FBF92B.5010103@ccstores.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Krmpz-0002NI-D6 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: syslogd logging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:58:04 -0000 fquest wrote: > Is there a way to re-configure how syslogd presents the date > in the syslog files? > > Presently, the date is usually MMM DD > > I would prefer YYYYMMDD > > however I cannot find anywhere where this is possible. > It isn't. Consider syslog-ng from the ports. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 07:22:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF38106569D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031738FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9K7MDsl013395; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:22:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9K7MB3b013392; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:22:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:22:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081020092131.U13379@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Inode numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:22:36 -0000 > Because I didn't find sufficient informations and "try and error" > would be incomplete (and insecure regarding the result), I'd like > to ask the following question: > > Let's assume we have a directory D with an inode number i(D). > It contains a file F with its inode number i(F). > > May I state that i(D) < i(F)? usually but not always. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 08:20:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63BC106567E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CBC8FC1A for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FEE130D7E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5C629069; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from privftp.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F2029069; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by privftp.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 027913981A; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:54 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: charlie@cpsoftware.com References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:20:56 -0000 Charles Mason wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >>> I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it >>> with FreeBSD >>> or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer >>> FreeBSD >> do what your boss wants. it's his company, and it's his right to make bad >> decision >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > If he's a good boss (as the poster seem to be implying) then he will > be asking because he hasn't made his mind up his mind completely, but > yeah don't get fired over it :) > >>From what I have seen, both are perfectly capable and since its samba > that will be doing most of the actual work its probably doesn't matter > that much. Of course the next question if he goes with Linux, is which > distro. Perhaps the question should be FreeBSD v Red Hat v Ubuntu v > SUSE v latest flavour of the month. Since keeping it patched is > essential, these sorts of admin features do matter. > > I am not sure what File System you plan on using but FreeBSD does have > one killer feature Linux doesn't, ZFS. Linux thanks to licensing > issues doesn't really have a solid implementation yet (although there > have been attempts). If you need its features and can put a decent > amount of RAM in to the file server, to good be a good choice and > perhaps just the angle you are looking for. > > To be honest I haven't used ZFS in serious production yet although I > have been running it at home on my DIY 1.25tb NAS without any issues > for nearly a year. Still if you have spent a lot an expensive RAID > system disabling it and using ZFS's superior (unless you really spent > a lot on that RAID hardware) redundancy may not go down to well. > > Hope that's of some help. > > Charlie M Hello Thanks for your answer, filesystem is not really my problem I'll use a Netapp server for home directories. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 08:33:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0B11065674 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4A38FC1D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1639276wfg.7 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:33:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=o5OiGwTB6n6ITU1NW2WcYFdQxl/aWLCqLyHaSC+DUhA=; b=EZFzwd0p23hCfV8QqOzsdRlTBEW4XJm4IS7AwBMieI7CbfWQb4Dgn5SdQJPW5H1/19 G58qlKHIMXV3DbUU147sN88xxJzLb+MQhsTKEJTNZQ1z6JgstEISr7t2zeWqDbDrHfqU q+dTx+cx0ZRbInA97iaK7vCUSe4RWNMbGF15Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XkREIhBHaZrOw4O72LUJi5mARnl0kYysG6fOdMvZoCyScRWti//A05Ldkmew8NmXH3 9Azt8IQMZquFJ3hnqUVbKl7DcXuSR795vJPHt8cmBXk73UFi+AltgK7ZE6vLQi4791fB y7XkOVa8+zMqnB68E72NwLC+CNfbwulHTkaug= Received: by 10.142.174.8 with SMTP id w8mr2938335wfe.4.1224491612273; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:33:32 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Frank Bonnet" In-Reply-To: <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:33:33 -0000 hello list, a little story about samba and FreeBSD. I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the directories and files so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months but after that at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. The files were there with the correct permissions but the software refused to access them with an error that they don't exist. I've tried to debug samba but couldn't find a clue, i have updated FreeBSD because i thought that the problem is with seekdir because the software was usign lot of files and directories. That didn't solve the problem either. I have searched the web for a guidance but couldn't find any. The interesting part comes when the company decided to change the OS to openSUSE. That did the trick. So first thing that comes in mind is that FreeBSD + samba + that accounting software just don't work together. I didn't had the chance to debug it as i should because they needed a fix ASAP. I have always used FreeBSD for web/file/VoIP server and never had a problem. I even have a FBSD box that server as a file server and there are lots of files and 10 depth directories and it works like a charm. I have no conclusions, is just a story of my own to help you make an opinion. all the best, v On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Charles Mason wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >>> I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it >>>> with FreeBSD >>>> or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer >>>> FreeBSD >>>> >>> do what your boss wants. it's his company, and it's his right to make bad >>> decision >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> If he's a good boss (as the poster seem to be implying) then he will >> be asking because he hasn't made his mind up his mind completely, but >> yeah don't get fired over it :) >> >> From what I have seen, both are perfectly capable and since its samba >>> >> that will be doing most of the actual work its probably doesn't matter >> that much. Of course the next question if he goes with Linux, is which >> distro. Perhaps the question should be FreeBSD v Red Hat v Ubuntu v >> SUSE v latest flavour of the month. Since keeping it patched is >> essential, these sorts of admin features do matter. >> >> I am not sure what File System you plan on using but FreeBSD does have >> one killer feature Linux doesn't, ZFS. Linux thanks to licensing >> issues doesn't really have a solid implementation yet (although there >> have been attempts). If you need its features and can put a decent >> amount of RAM in to the file server, to good be a good choice and >> perhaps just the angle you are looking for. >> >> To be honest I haven't used ZFS in serious production yet although I >> have been running it at home on my DIY 1.25tb NAS without any issues >> for nearly a year. Still if you have spent a lot an expensive RAID >> system disabling it and using ZFS's superior (unless you really spent >> a lot on that RAID hardware) redundancy may not go down to well. >> >> Hope that's of some help. >> >> Charlie M >> > > Hello > > Thanks for your answer, filesystem is not really my problem I'll > use a Netapp server for home directories. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 09:03:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38104106566C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0734E8FC08 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so955837wag.27 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:03:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RFrNR2+MW/tkkFLy0d4/LGnH18zYUaEwFGFv2PpWMVA=; b=Dyd2qfNy1kAQTK72O98N6PvIaIkVbh/tW5qcJRrGtQjf0WqJCBxk4eBiQmqgwYP7V9 p7GYqFgsRPunULF2Hhn4SQ1lGK2UkqO6R1jpV5UyZapDq3IGlN+AMxwfhvLtoI65jynQ 24mpRYSwLJxV0UU8KVG6QogNaqTseFyx7js+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Qc9ZVHx6vnbYjwCxEeEyPMIWHV/QbLtTtKBGOJ/ZxHCtDKxfQ1Eoo7KwmI7MGxse5k yd9Vm4VLb6StRjPv8XmIwEqjUK2WhY7zmY609BXKiKQn/Z4nq2by0eOHBt43X/S15STE emRoN02cW7fURh7bZg0VAgLdF04o3hckrX+No= Received: by 10.115.33.1 with SMTP id l1mr5178079waj.115.1224493437370; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.9 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810200203t981a306l260152602c3648fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:03:57 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Valentin Bud" In-Reply-To: <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:03:58 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Valentin Bud wrote: > hello list, > a little story about samba and FreeBSD. > I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for > accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the > directories and files > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months but > after that > at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. > The files were there with the correct permissions but the software refused > to access them with > an error that they don't exist. I've tried to debug samba but couldn't find > a clue, i have updated > FreeBSD because i thought that the problem is with seekdir because the > software was usign lot of files > and directories. That didn't solve the problem either. > I have searched the web for a guidance but couldn't find any. The > interesting part comes when > the company decided to change the OS to openSUSE. That did the trick. So > first > thing that comes in mind is that FreeBSD + samba + that accounting software > just don't work together. > I didn't had the chance to debug it as i should because they needed a fix > ASAP. > > I have always used FreeBSD for web/file/VoIP server and never had a problem. > I even have a FBSD > box that server as a file server and there are lots of files and 10 depth > directories and it works like a charm. > > I have no conclusions, is just a story of my own to help you make an > opinion. > Are you using the same samba config file from FreeBSD on OpenSUSE? Do you mind showing us that smb.conf -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 09:17:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62FD106567C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31D38FC25 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1655621wfg.7 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qMB2oEECCl2L+uYK4s5ipnTkbmnojn8Rr+pNQcvogq8=; b=lCs2cByDW6SCUNHSED8AiqpMNUTxz4k1mUriusRF+LUUScz7tAd2oQmEqBpLlvk4iL VUf8ToYSXA1kpdBxsAEilE061UD9dA01bXIo174L0vYHG39jiN3lgTGCV/m4/LNuJEwD Pnh/TQnAlO6h0SQxah3fXU2RhWaqO5EkZcHDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nX7jXMSsBqrAaXLmFcWZ9KzjjuiKwDVS7q0tE4TaArIxTdzZc9ZVN7+KRifUc8VnJk mgsxZxNLfPGlrlcMJLqReNapTlCL0IlPZhY5oN/zoIbBv/G2wAZXrKgzlN2XCUz6ptFH qXTeHAr7LqlIonuy0DG8vRPJOn2bXgLYT2/O0= Received: by 10.142.215.5 with SMTP id n5mr2952731wfg.27.1224494267009; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810200217g201ed746sf04e6664cde355a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:17:46 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Odhiambo Washington" In-Reply-To: <991123400810200203t981a306l260152602c3648fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810200203t981a306l260152602c3648fc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:17:48 -0000 Hello list, On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Valentin Bud > wrote: > > hello list, > > a little story about samba and FreeBSD. > > I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for > > accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. > > > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on > the > > directories and files > > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months > but > > after that > > at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. > > The files were there with the correct permissions but the software > refused > > to access them with > > an error that they don't exist. I've tried to debug samba but couldn't > find > > a clue, i have updated > > FreeBSD because i thought that the problem is with seekdir because the > > software was usign lot of files > > and directories. That didn't solve the problem either. > > I have searched the web for a guidance but couldn't find any. The > > interesting part comes when > > the company decided to change the OS to openSUSE. That did the trick. So > > first > > thing that comes in mind is that FreeBSD + samba + that accounting > software > > just don't work together. > > I didn't had the chance to debug it as i should because they needed a fix > > ASAP. > > > > I have always used FreeBSD for web/file/VoIP server and never had a > problem. > > I even have a FBSD > > box that server as a file server and there are lots of files and 10 depth > > directories and it works like a charm. > > > > I have no conclusions, is just a story of my own to help you make an > > opinion. > > > > Are you using the same samba config file from FreeBSD on OpenSUSE? > Do you mind showing us that smb.conf. Unfortunately i didn't configured the OpenSUSE server so i don't have access to the box. AFAIK the configuration is the same. Standard samba config file just changing the netbios name and adding the shares. In the next few weeks i will be able to access the box and i will come back with the both setups. I forgot to mention that i used FBSD 6.2. all the best, v > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 10:13:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E80106566C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4588FC1F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1543307rvf.43 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:13:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=mFQrqESd/eSiZk2yb1vE/qkoVnbhm6RPcDWVUaLihCY=; b=EXt9sHF5R4gej3voOcviC4CLOMVWAV30nDIDz6oqQXpmmtN2amFn67dR9aLH5rAb+W 71AhFqIZffZBBwWoJ3k2lMK2nHcwhDyjhSSnbOwoDdIx/vsfF0UVaWE2efppL/g7BZQq nxvlTBi/Ecq2FgBDS7gE7a0PJ+rtB9Azn5HUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=H7nzvYySU6f3VBoDZp3RsPo8vbzZECW5byggMALZE0sTreZOMl5HAz7uhXEwsj4eVY kXFMtMXUowvwGYAtGANDMgYaRui4Tt5hX/K0GFBkkWJlA4Mgg9a7NWlk1dxuIssni5ch KaPZc4FK+uHl4zGjd1f2i9rxvS9eWdusyfA0A= Received: by 10.142.232.20 with SMTP id e20mr2970672wfh.138.1224497607463; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810200313s7b005a38qc5d2e9b6d9a8a52d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:13:27 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: custom freebsd cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:13:28 -0000 Hello list, I have a FBSD box that runs as a web/mail server to provide access to a web based application. I want to build a custom FBSD 7.0 installation disk. By custom I mean: 1. automatic disk partition based on a scheme i provide. 2. automatic installation of the needed packages as well as the config files. I plan to update the packages which i might keep on a ftp server on remake the installation disk anytime i make package updates. 3. automatic "installation" of all the php/html/perl/sh scripts needed to run the application. Basically i want a disk that you put it in the cdrom and installs the system, packages and all the necessary scripts to run the application. More than that a modified kernel to allow pf, as well as the pf configuration file. The installation will always be on the same hardware in case of failure. So can you please give me hints as well as opinions how should i start this. What alternatives should i consider? thank you, v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 13:26:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D911106567A for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23A8FC1A for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600AAAFBC01; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:26:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:07:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810181749.26406.vsbenzi@weizmann.ac.il> In-Reply-To: <200810181749.26406.vsbenzi@weizmann.ac.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810201507.21408.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Benzi Mizrahi Subject: Re: Disable kontact/kmail automatic activation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:41 -0000 On Saturday 18 October 2008 17:49:26 Benzi Mizrahi wrote: > Hello all, > > I am running FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #2 with KDE: 3.5.10. > A few *PORTUPGRADEs* ago , I can't recall when, I noticed > that when KDE is started, usually after system startup , kontact > application is started automatcally, which I 'd like to disable. > > Kde is started from /etc/ttys, and I have no automatic > activation for any apps from $HOME/.kde/Autostart. I 'd like to > be able to call kmail at my own will. Can you please tell how can > I disable kontact automatic activation? This has little to do with portupgrade or FreeBSD. You have shut down a session with Kmail active. Shut the session down without KMail active and problem solved. Please note that, Kmail minimizes to systray, unless you use ctrl-q or File => Quit, so you might think it's gone when it's not. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 13:26:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033F41065670 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72A68FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F77FAFBC03; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:26:41 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:26:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <560f92640810171424v7fd48462qb750cf40229884ac@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640810171424v7fd48462qb750cf40229884ac@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810201526.39245.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: DHCP release/renew lease - elegant solution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:42 -0000 On Friday 17 October 2008 23:24:00 Nerius Landys wrote: > I have an always-on FreeBSD box which is connected to the internet. My ISP > is some cable company and the IP address is determined via DHCP; I used to > always get the same IP address but recently the address seems to be > changing very frequently whenever I reboot the machine. > > My problem is that recently, after being on for a day or so, the internet > connection to the FreeBSD box breaks down, it stops working or becomes very > intermittent/flaky. I then reboot the machine, and thereafter it usually > uses a new IP address and the internet connection returns fo running fine. > There is no need to reboot the cable modem. If this is an always on machine, it makes no sense, unless the ISP is doing agressive accounting on there IP's: - give out a lease for x hours - but invalidate it anyway after Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D6F106567C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from mailout04.t-online.de (mailout04.t-online.de [194.25.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4018FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KrutV-0007Y5-00; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:34:01 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (GD8tovZO8hhgjop2CHjbTKVBlFBRDNSzKD9l2HSmXy1AEDJhjPUbbxaAo1TPJUNgWl@[87.181.107.234]) by fwd05.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KrutN-02kDGy0; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:33:53 +0200 Sender: jmk@t-online.de Message-ID: <48FC8CD8.BA0633DE@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:51:20 +0200 From: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081020120020.70D811065682@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: GD8tovZO8hhgjop2CHjbTKVBlFBRDNSzKD9l2HSmXy1AEDJhjPUbbxaAo1TPJUNgWl X-TOI-MSGID: 728ccae2-7663-4416-aea1-e90477ce8e7f Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: johannes-maria@t-online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:34:04 -0000 Hello, > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:57:43 +0100 > From: dgmm > Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? > [...] > > Have you tried just mounting da0 etc? The may not be any slices. yes, I tried all /dev/da*; in each case the result was mount: /dev/da...: Device not configured > -- > Dave Johannes-Maria From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 13:37:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5C81065675 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572A78FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V1Q61a0020vyq2s581dg67; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:37:40 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V1dq1a00K2P6wsM3R1dq6s; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:37:51 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=VARUf5tC-txBB0t-ua4A:9 a=DaxOM-u9c37fELQYYs4UljaIhCgA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=QvtjQ2SLGwsA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 26F2FC9432; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:37:50 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach Message-ID: <20081020133750.GA4223@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081020120020.70D811065682@hub.freebsd.org> <48FC8CD8.BA0633DE@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FC8CD8.BA0633DE@t-online.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:37:52 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:51:20PM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > > Hello, > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:57:43 +0100 > > From: dgmm > > Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? > > > [...] > > > > Have you tried just mounting da0 etc? The may not be any slices. > > yes, I tried all /dev/da*; in each case the result was > mount: /dev/da...: Device not configured One thing people here haven't mentioned is that device quirks (meaning: "one-offs" in the driver code) might be required to get this device to work. It's a common problem, and exists in many operating systems. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 14:10:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A64E1065685 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4B88FC23 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 7578 invoked by uid 0); 20 Oct 2008 14:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp8.knology.net with SMTP; 20 Oct 2008 14:10:13 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 7ACCD28422; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:10:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:10:13 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Mel Message-ID: <20081020141013.GA33058@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <560f92640810171424v7fd48462qb750cf40229884ac@mail.gmail.com> <200810201526.39245.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810201526.39245.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nerius Landys Subject: Re: DHCP release/renew lease - elegant solution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:10:16 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:26:39PM +0200, Mel wrote: > On Friday 17 October 2008 23:24:00 Nerius Landys wrote: > > > I have an always-on FreeBSD box which is connected to the internet. > > My ISP is some cable company and the IP address is determined via > > DHCP; I used to always get the same IP address but recently the > > address seems to be changing very frequently whenever I reboot the > > machine. > > If this is an always on machine, it makes no sense, unless the ISP is > doing agressive accounting on there IP's: > - give out a lease for x hours > - but invalidate it anyway after > Doing a periodic dhclient -r would probably fix your problem, though > the correct solution would be to complain with your ISP and switch to > the competition if they don't get their stuff together. It would help if Nerius would spend some time in the system logs and dhclient man page to determine the state when his machine goes deaf. I suspect firewall rules using static host IP address. Believe I have also see this happen with natd, Once Upon A Time natd needed to be restarted when the external IP address changed. Is possible for dhclient to do this automatically. As for a static IP address, many ISPs charge extra for this feature. One ISP I deal with rotates our IP address every 18 to 48 hours and isn't courteous enough to do it on a regular schedule or wait until off hours. Means we have a couple of minutes of down time most every day when the router recovers. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 14:21:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602201065673 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBED8FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Krvd2-0007X4-Ni; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:21:04 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Krvd2-0002Ky-5k; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:21:04 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:21:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810181749.26406.vsbenzi@weizmann.ac.il> In-Reply-To: <200810181749.26406.vsbenzi@weizmann.ac.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810201521.04068.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: d5fcbda01df5cecf2ddfa1b5f04dc3a9 Cc: Benzi Mizrahi Subject: Re: Disable kontact/kmail automatic activation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:21:08 -0000 On Saturday 18 October 2008, Benzi Mizrahi wrote: > Hello all, > > I am running FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #2 with KDE: 3.5.10. > A few *PORTUPGRADEs* ago , I can't recall when, I noticed > that when KDE is started, usually after system startup , > kontact application is started automatcally, which I 'd like to > disable. Make sure you have no applications started in your KDE session, apart from any that you'd like to start each time, then click on the "Save Session" option in the main KDE menu. After doing this open up the Control Center and select the "Restore manually saved session" option in the Session Manager section. Alternatively, if you don't want anything to start up, miss out the "Save Session" step and use the "Start with an empty session" option in the Session Manager. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 14:53:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED09E106566C; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9342B8FC14; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9KEp6f5038496; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:51:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9KEp61q038495; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:51:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:51:06 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081020145106.GD38387@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081017122207.GA21157@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081017122207.GA21157@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: andys , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:53:46 -0000 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:22:07AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote: > > Hi, > > > > on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see the > > following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this or is > > the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up without > > even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix the > > prob? Is this safe to do? > > > > bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1 > > # /dev/da0s1: > > type: SCSI > > disk: da0s1 > > label: > > flags: > > bytes/sector: 512 > > sectors/track: 63 > > tracks/cylinder: 255 > > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > > cylinders: 17750 > > sectors/unit: 285155328 > > rpm: 3600 > > interleave: 1 > > trackskew: 0 > > cylinderskew: 0 > > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > > drivedata: 0 > > > > 8 partitions: > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > b: 20971520 75497472 swap > > c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, > > don't edit > > d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system > > utilities > > It's complaining that 285153687 (see "c" partition) does not equal > 285155328 (see "sectors/unit" up top). > > > thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk > > management as I havent used it much, > > I'm left wondering why you're messing around with bsdlabel on a FreeBSD > install in the first place. :-) Do you mean - as apposed to letting sysinstall handle it? Yah, I would let sysinstall do the disk mangling, but maybe he did something else. ////jerry > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 15:00:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614441065682 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF8C8FC18 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9KEvWTh038552; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:57:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9KEvWJp038551; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:57:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:57:32 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Andy Smith Message-ID: <20081020145732.GF38387@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <0c38a3dc9cee1bbe4fa9132560584c9f@80.32.136.226> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0c38a3dc9cee1bbe4fa9132560584c9f@80.32.136.226> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:00:11 -0000 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 03:31:07PM +0100, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi Jerry, > ok thanks for the answer, its not very good news for me ;( as Ive > already done alot of config and installed alot of apps, but anyway > thats my problem now! > cheers Andy! > Interesting, you seemed to have seen my reply before I sent it... This format is much better - plain text in the body of the message. Sorry that starting over might be needed. See if you can discover along the way where the problem might have started. I usually take sequential notes as I do an install just in case I have to do it over, so I don't have to think so hard the next time... ////jerry > --------- Original Message -------- > From: "Jerry McAllister" > To: "andys" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install > Date: 17/10/08 18:11 > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:13:45PM +0200, andys wrote: > > Hi, > > > > on a newly installed FreeBSD 7.0 system on a dell 1950 server I see > the > > following error from bsdlabel. Is there any known issues with this > or is > > the only reasonable explanation that I have managed to mess it up > without > > even knowing? :P And should I manually change the partition c to fix > the > > prob? Is this safe to do? > > > > bsdlabel -A /dev/da0s1 > > # /dev/da0s1: > > type: SCSI > > disk: da0s1 > > label: > > flags: > > bytes/sector: 512 > > sectors/track: 63 > > tracks/cylinder: 255 > > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > > cylinders: 17750 > > sectors/unit: 285155328 > > rpm: 3600 > > interleave: 1 > > trackskew: 0 > > cylinderskew: 0 > > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > > drivedata: 0 > > > > 8 partitions: > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > b: 20971520 75497472 swap > > c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > > edit > > d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 > > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard > system > > utilities > > > > thanks for any advice, Im not really confident with the FreeBSD disk > > management as I havent used it much, > If you were using sysinstall, I am not sure how this would come up. > Do you have more than one slice on the disk - that which MS refers > to as a 'primary partition'? Something you might do to create a > 'dual boot' machine. > Are you in the position where you can just wipe it and do a > reinstall? I wouldn't just move or resize the c partition after > the fact. > The c partition should be equal to the size of the slice it is in. > That should just be true after the fdisk part of the operation unless > there is something wrong with the size or alignment of the slice > itself. And, in that case, I would expect it to have complained > way back in the sysinstall-fdisk part of the process. > So, I would start over if I could. > Just some pictorial perspective to make it easier (I hope) to > visualize. > Whole device > ____________________________________________________________ > | slice 1 : FreeBSD Slice 2 : slice 3 : Slice 4 | > | : : : | > | :<- partition c ->: : | > |Some MS thing : ' ' ' ' : Some Linux : Extra | > | :pa' pb ' pd ' pe ' pn: thing : slice | > | : ' ' ' ' : : | > | : ' ' ' ' : : | > ------------------------------------------------------------- > A device (whole disk) can have up to 4 slices labeled 1..4. > Each slice can be of different types. > MS calls slices 'primary partitions'. > Each FreeBSD type slice can be divided in to "8" (really 7) partitions > that are labeled a..h. But, c must be used to define the whole slice. > Slices are created by fdisk. Fdisk also writes the device's MBR. > Partitions are created by bsdlabel (disk label in early versions of > FreeBSD) > bsdlabel also writes the slice's boot block. > It is possible to leave empty space in the whole disk that is not > allocated to any slice or within any given slice that is not allocated > to any partition. The total of a..h not counting c, plus any non- > allocated space, must add up to c. > It is possible to create what someone has dubbed a 'dangerously > dedicated' > disk and just not create slices, but just use bsdlabel to divide the > whole disk in to FreeBSD partitions a-h. The c partition must still > refer to the whole space available for FreeBSD partitioning. > I think it is also possible to just newfs the disk without using > either fdisk or bsdlabel and create one filesystem without slices > or partitions. I haven't tried it. > Both fdisk and bsdlabel are supposed to keep track of the sizes > correctly, automatically. That is why I suggest starting over. > If you use sysinstall, it calls fdisk and bsdlabel for you and you > don't have to do it separately unless you want to look and see > what it did. > ////jerry > > > > thanks Andy. > > _______________________________________________ > > [1]freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > [2]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ________________________________________________ > Message sent using UK Grid Webmail 2.7.9 > > References > > 1. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > 2. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 15:19:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15C0106566C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FDB8FC18 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9KFJlG6034335; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:19:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E06CDB84E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:19:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:19:46 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081020151946.GB10017@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081020120020.70D811065682@hub.freebsd.org> <48FC8CD8.BA0633DE@t-online.de> <20081020133750.GA4223@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081020133750.GA4223@icarus.home.lan> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:19:49 -0000 --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 06:37:50AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:51:20PM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:57:43 +0100 > > > From: dgmm > > > Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Have you tried just mounting da0 etc? The may not be any slices. > >=20 > > yes, I tried all /dev/da*; in each case the result was > > mount: /dev/da...: Device not configured >=20 > One thing people here haven't mentioned is that device quirks (meaning: > "one-offs" in the driver code) might be required to get this device to > work. It's a common problem, and exists in many operating systems. Part of the problem (revealed in a private communication) was that the device permissions were incorrect; they were _write only_. :-/=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj8oZIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWo6ACgi2+Tg5JYVdvMnwemNIjXNroe 5vEAnA/zdQNfUmCxrR1odTGgC5tbDdK8 =OofG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 15:24:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784C21065671; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in06.adhost.com (mail-in06.adhost.com [216.211.128.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7A78FC17; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (exchange.adhost.com [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in06.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6716482E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: FHKR IOnE LVTM L1xC MWL+ P4JU QmXC TJmp UniR U9Un Xaei YQ4a grn/ iVpE i4mt lGVw; 3; ZQBjAHUAbABwAEAAYwBhAHMAYQBzAHAAbwBuAHQAaQAuAG4AZQB0ADsAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAawBvAGkAdABzAHUAQABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {383A769B-91CF-46A0-A489-E4C829B95D91}; bQBrAHMAbQBpAHQAaABAAGEAZABoAG8AcwB0AC4AYwBvAG0A; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:24:28 GMT; UgBFADoAIABJACcAdgBlACAAagB1AHMAdAAgAGYAbwB1AG4AZAAgAGEAIABuAGUAdwAgAGEAbgBkACAAaQBuAHQAZQByAGUAcwB0AGkAbgBnACAAcwBwAGEAbQAgAHMAbwB1AHIAYwBlACAALQAgAGwAZQBnAGkAdABpAG0AYQB0AGUAYgBvAHUAbgBjAGUAIABtAGUAcwBzAGEAZwBlAHMA x-pgp-mapi-encoding-version: 2.5.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PGP_Universal_7A899A4F_B0BB0C71_1403F6CE_F0301BB5" x-cr-puzzleid: {383A769B-91CF-46A0-A489-E4C829B95D91} x-pgp-encoding-format: MIME x-pgp-encoding-version: 2.0.2 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:24:28 -0700 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages thread-index: AckvnwE+KWJH4lpOQcKNweEV14Q6IgDKCIOg References: <20081016090102.17qwm4xcs6f4so8ok@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" , Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:24:40 -0000 --PGP_Universal_7A899A4F_B0BB0C71_1403F6CE_F0301BB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > The term coined for this type of mail is "backscatter". >=20 > There is no easy solution for this. The backscatter article on > postfix.org, for example, caused our mail servers to start rejecting > mail that was generated from PHP scripts and CGIs on our own systems, > which makes no sense. The article: >=20 > http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html >=20 > If the backscatter is all directed to a single Email address (rather > than a series of addresses, e.g. sdfkjhsfjkksjdf@yourdomain.com, and > you have *@yourdomain.com accepted), then a solution is to reject > mail with an RCPT TO of an account or virtual address that does not > exist on your machine. >=20 > This, of course, has a wonderful side effect: spammers now have a way to > detect what Email addresses on your box legitimately accept mail, thus > once they find one which never gets a bounceback, will start pounding > that address to kingdom come. >=20 > Let me know if you do find a reliable, decent solution that does not > involve SPF or postfix header_checks or body_checks. >=20 The following doesn't fix the problem but it does help mitigate the deluge.= We use a PERL script to tail our maillogs looking for any source IP that = tries to send mail to more than 4 invalid addresses. When flagged, that IP= is then added to a PF table that blocks the address and issues RST's for 1= 2 hours. Of course, we also have a whitelist for "valid" SMTP servers. Li= ke I said, it doesn't catch it all, but it catches *a lot* and generates al= most no complaints. This does help obfuscate the valid/invalid addresses b= ecause all mail is accepted as far as the sender is concerned until the IP = is blocked at the network layer. =20 The usual complaint is from an remote office that has 12 real estate agents= behind a single IP, all with Outlook set to check mail "sooner than now." = :-) Mike --PGP_Universal_7A899A4F_B0BB0C71_1403F6CE_F0301BB5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="PGP.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PGP.sig" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 9.9.0 (Build 397) iQEVAwUBSPyirPTXQhZ+XcVAAQhUVwgAvkh0zo+M/P7YDvCGSobTqajUIQE72wOL IiPVPNcT4DmtZNKwIodxuGrzhNS1UyIh4lt1ZR5sWbvRcSHArWNvOpKvSOoCuXrR VbAIBKEMOHq+MKXhhMEU/hF5nDXnZqjNUYQydbBNhfYC3daIy/YcvdcSRXb8lzFk LTYuhI5Yc3yQ+lW6WV4v8FvIrhn3xJtsx3lXObYn0RsCgle2+ZxklCDX2NMkG2CC gun1S4eIZNy+R7wYO35NAzB39Q+nGp7MjJFbcZqaldU52ZSe5p3SgSx4UN2aIa/4 63qnSf+Z+vEbVmaKfhWhIXMsgBJUbdazgiR8D+zVVBibuT1Y+hCtwg== =NsGg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PGP_Universal_7A899A4F_B0BB0C71_1403F6CE_F0301BB5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 15:43:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF9D106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADD98FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KFh4MQ014979; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9KFh3xp014976; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:43:18 -0000 > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the > directories and files > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months but > after that > at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. if it could work for 2 months and then refused - something must have been changed on the client software side. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 16:16:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF7C106567E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com [208.86.224.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478078FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (129-78-237-24.gci.net [24.237.78.129]) by bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F40528E1282; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:16:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:16:23 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081016090102.17qwm4xcs6f4so8ok@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810200816.27935.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , Jeremy Chadwick , eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:16:33 -0000 On Monday 20 October 2008, Michael K. Smith - Adhost said: > > The term coined for this type of mail is "backscatter". > > > > There is no easy solution for this. The backscatter article on > > postfix.org, for example, caused our mail servers to start > > rejecting mail that was generated from PHP scripts and CGIs on > > our own systems, which makes no sense. The article: > > > > http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html > > > > If the backscatter is all directed to a single Email address > > (rather than a series of addresses, e.g. > > sdfkjhsfjkksjdf@yourdomain.com, and you have *@yourdomain.com > > accepted), then a solution is to reject mail with an RCPT TO of > > an account or virtual address that does not exist on your > > machine. > > > > This, of course, has a wonderful side effect: spammers now have a > > way to detect what Email addresses on your box legitimately > > accept mail, thus once they find one which never gets a > > bounceback, will start pounding that address to kingdom come. > > > > Let me know if you do find a reliable, decent solution that does > > not involve SPF or postfix header_checks or body_checks. > > The following doesn't fix the problem but it does help mitigate the > deluge. We use a PERL script to tail our maillogs looking for any > source IP that tries to send mail to more than 4 invalid addresses. > When flagged, that IP is then added to a PF table that blocks the > address and issues RST's for 12 hours. Of course, we also have a > whitelist for "valid" SMTP servers. Like I said, it doesn't catch > it all, but it catches *a lot* and generates almost no complaints. > This does help obfuscate the valid/invalid addresses because all > mail is accepted as far as the sender is concerned until the IP is > blocked at the network layer. > > The usual complaint is from an remote office that has 12 real > estate agents behind a single IP, all with Outlook set to check > mail "sooner than now." :-) > > Mike SpamAssassin also has a backscatter feature, you just have to enable it. It tags backscatter and hands it off to procmail. From there you can easily do whatever you want with the tagged mail including kick off a script to block the offending IP. In my case I just dump it along with any spam to /dev/null. It works so well I had to bounce a couple of emails just to make sure it wasn't also grabbing mine. Nope, anything I bounce gets delivered. My backscatter is now virtually zero. Of course like everything else SpamAssassin it's tuneable. It's a very good solution without a lot of heavy lifting. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 15:46:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A71065672 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com) Received: from web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14EA28FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17658 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2008 15:19:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3NbyatJScVdU83PtWYrxSe1a/DECwJlncqwgeoZj32U8LNIEVsgVwTtqQvTB5sSoaggDtgdkJLFW3LBqdIJrNtHAlZi7Q0jsYjlMHZN2ptr0YnQBxNEh5l/p0qvhqF6ZOpWLuFZCP0p0bLGHy8LJ0dL7HAKpR8asCRWPd3/QgqQ=; X-YMail-OSG: jdy3BEIVM1klb7WY4zYaAhgkD7FfpDRkyFR7x3hidKowPyy2CJDIikgwMjYSEQBevHb1Cp6FK.iryr5pF1ezVqz54rCr7ivTrR6cVrC8U4fDcQMO2uBTwDjtB.0_N3xHGiY2yNr2ed7B402a9l8AzlZ.kXKyUWSOMhy4gihrPYo2AQgI.UGHoubk1hY4 Received: from [63.245.17.123] by web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:19:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerardo Paredes To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <669452.4810.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:20:54 +0000 Subject: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:46:09 -0000 Hello, i am interested in setting up a small cluster, of about 5 machines to show how this can work on a university environment. Its kind of a pitch to university authorities to show them how this work so they can think on investing top dollars on it. We have a bunch of workstations running FreeBSD, However as i been reading through the documentation, the canonical situacion would be a environment where the machines netboot over the server, get most of their partitions over NFS and have NIS installed so users can authenticate at the server and share resources available at the cluster. My question is, it is possible to just install SGE, grid Mathematica (or maybe MPI, open-MPI, a custom application), share the home directory over NFS, copy some ssh keys to the other nodes and run them like a cluster?. Please someone with more experience on this kind of install help me with a series of steps designed on how to get this running. Regards Gerardo Paredes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 16:27:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7862E1065670 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCD18FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9KGR2qu014344; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:27:02 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081019201657.GA84733@icarus.home.lan> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <20081019201657.GA84733@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:07:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1224518837.13417.6.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:27:04 -0000 On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 13:16 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 03:50:01PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I took a working 5.4-i386 server and trying to convert its RAID 5 to > > RAID 10 and load 7.0 amd64. I kept getting BTX halted even after > > flashing the latest bios and firmware for the raid card, Intel SRCZCR, > > in this dual Xeon 2.4GHz supermicro superserver. I have another server, > > bit newer, but same basic hardware makeup with Xeon 3.0 procs that runs > > 6.1-amd64 fine. Anyway, so I have resorted to the i386 version of 7.0 to > > see if the server is just incapable of running amd64, which after > > passing the initial boot where amd64 failed, now gives me the subject > > error after some reference to GEOM_LABEL. I did rebuild the RAID to > > RAID-10, can someone tell me what this error means? > > > > http://columbus.webtent.org/freebsd.png > > Can you please try 7.1-BETA2 instead (ISOs are now available)? There > have been fixes/improvements to BTX since 7.0-RELEASE which could fix > your problem. > Thanks, but that didn't work either trying 7.1-BETA2 amd64 :( Forgot to mention I added memory to this server as well, took it from 2GB it was using under 5.4-RELEASE up to 6GB filling all slots, that is why I wanted to load amd64. I reduced down to 4GB and now am able to install 7.0-RELEASE i386. Does this mean that I may have a hardware issue or can FreeBSD produce the page fault I was getting when using over 4GB with i386? I would love to figure out this BTX halted issue instead...any ideas on that? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 16:32:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B9B1065672 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F238FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V2qp1a0090ldTLk534YeVi; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:38 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V4Yd1a00C2P6wsM3Q4YdWy; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:38 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VzWalFZNP_EA:10 a=DLsStemsAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=OnaW3FhquDSkihb0eH8A:9 a=2Bhrd_Orh5TGpbKyfMsA:7 a=k7NNkOfJ8LJtVfDn3pyuegK2zCQA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E743C9437; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:32:37 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: robert@webtent.com Message-ID: <20081020163237.GA7671@icarus.home.lan> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <20081019201657.GA84733@icarus.home.lan> <1224518837.13417.6.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1224518837.13417.6.camel@columbus.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD , jhb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:40 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:07:17PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 13:16 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 03:50:01PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > I took a working 5.4-i386 server and trying to convert its RAID 5 to > > > RAID 10 and load 7.0 amd64. I kept getting BTX halted even after > > > flashing the latest bios and firmware for the raid card, Intel SRCZCR, > > > in this dual Xeon 2.4GHz supermicro superserver. I have another server, > > > bit newer, but same basic hardware makeup with Xeon 3.0 procs that runs > > > 6.1-amd64 fine. Anyway, so I have resorted to the i386 version of 7.0 to > > > see if the server is just incapable of running amd64, which after > > > passing the initial boot where amd64 failed, now gives me the subject > > > error after some reference to GEOM_LABEL. I did rebuild the RAID to > > > RAID-10, can someone tell me what this error means? > > > > > > http://columbus.webtent.org/freebsd.png > > > > Can you please try 7.1-BETA2 instead (ISOs are now available)? There > > have been fixes/improvements to BTX since 7.0-RELEASE which could fix > > your problem. > > > > Thanks, but that didn't work either trying 7.1-BETA2 amd64 :( > > Forgot to mention I added memory to this server as well, took it from > 2GB it was using under 5.4-RELEASE up to 6GB filling all slots, that is > why I wanted to load amd64. I reduced down to 4GB and now am able to > install 7.0-RELEASE i386. Does this mean that I may have a hardware > issue or can FreeBSD produce the page fault I was getting when using > over 4GB with i386? i386 cannot address more than 4GB unless the kernel is built with PAE mode enabled. This isn't enabled in GENERIC for many (justified) reasons. If you have more than 4GB, you should be using amd64, so you made the right decision there. > I would love to figure out this BTX halted issue instead...any ideas > on that? Boot loader problems are difficult to figure out/debug for reasons which should be obvious. I'm CC'ing John Baldwin here, who has experience with BTX. He might be able to shed some light on this. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 16:45:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62B71065673; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pauls=1728808ac@utdallas.edu) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28A58FC27; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pauls=1728808ac@utdallas.edu) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,453,1220245200"; d="scan'208";a="559759" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 20 Oct 2008 11:16:31 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A7B08044; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:16:31 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , Jeremy Chadwick , eculp@casasponti.net Message-ID: <72F12B8A0320E2A18685A679@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> References: <20081016090102.17qwm4xcs6f4so8ok@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========03B5997CC8624B8EA3CC==========" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:47:09 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:45:33 -0000 --==========03B5997CC8624B8EA3CC========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Monday, October 20, 2008 10:24:28 -0500 "Michael K. Smith - Adhost"=20 wrote: >> >> Let me know if you do find a reliable, decent solution that does not >> involve SPF or postfix header_checks or body_checks. >> > > The following doesn't fix the problem but it does help mitigate the deluge. > We use a PERL script to tail our maillogs looking for any source IP that > tries to send mail to more than 4 invalid addresses. When flagged, that IP > is then added to a PF table that blocks the address and issues RST's for 12 > hours. Of course, we also have a whitelist for "valid" SMTP servers. Like I > said, it doesn't catch it all, but it catches *a lot* and generates almost no > complaints. This does help obfuscate the valid/invalid addresses because all > mail is accepted as far as the sender is concerned until the IP is blocked at > the network layer. > > The usual complaint is from an remote office that has 12 real estate agents > behind a single IP, all with Outlook set to check mail "sooner than now." = :-) > The best solution *by far* that I have found for spam (using Postfix) is=20 mail/postfix-policyd-weight. It routinely rejects 50 to 70% of incoming mail=20 with no false positives. It took *very* little tweaking to get it to this=20 point, and it rejects the mail before postfix even deals with it. I use=20 spamassassin as well, but policyd-weight does the heavy lifting. Here's one example of a rejected email: Oct 20 11:11:16 mail postfix/policyd-weight[77973]: weighted check:=20 IN_DYN_PBL_SPAMHAUS=3D3.25 NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=3D-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=3D-1.5 = NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=3D-1.5 CL_IP_NE_HELO=3D4.75 REV_IP_EQ_HELO=3D-1.25=20 NOK_HELO_SEEMS_DIALUP=3D5 (check from: .hinet. - helo:=20 .dsl.dynamic8121373125.ttnet. - helo-domain: .ttnet.)=20 FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_UNVR_HELO(DOMAIN)=3D4.85 CLIENT_NOT_MX/A_FROM_DOMAIN=3D4.75 = CLIENT/24_NOT_MX/A_FROM_DOMAIN=3D4.75; =20 =20 ; rate: 21.6 Oct 20 11:11:16 mail postfix/policyd-weight[77973]: decided action=3D550 Mail=20 appeared to be SPAM or forged. Ask your Mail/DNS-Administrator to correct HELO=20 and DNS MX settings or to get removed from DNSBLs; please relay via your ISP=20 (ms35.hinet.net); Please use DynDNS; =20 =20 ; delay: 8s Anything above 1 is rejected. This email scored 21.6, which is off the charts. It even does greylisting. Oct 20 10:45:47 mail postfix/policyd-weight[28339]: decided action=3D550=20 temporarily blocked because of previous errors - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 = seconds x 0 retries.; =20 =20 ; delay: 0s Oct 20 10:46:51 mail postfix/policyd-weight[28339]: decided action=3D550=20 temporarily blocked because of previous errors - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 = seconds x 0 retries.; =20 ; delay: 0s It does let some spam through, which spamassassin catches, but it rejects all=20 the bogus stuff (fake hostnames, bogus MTAs, forged from addresses, etc., etc.) --=20 Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========03B5997CC8624B8EA3CC==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 16:52:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF7C106567D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C528FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W18 ([65.55.131.53]) by bay0-omc1-s31.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:52:26 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [204.249.77.1] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , FreeBSD Questions Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:52:26 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <669452.4810.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <669452.4810.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2008 16:52:26.0661 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B545D50:01C932D4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:52:26 -0000 > Date: Mon=2C 20 Oct 2008 08:19:28 -0700 > From: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster >=20 > Hello=2C i am interested in setting up a small cluster=2C of about 5 mach= ines to show how this can work on a university environment. Its kind of a p= itch to university authorities to show them how this work so they can think= on investing top dollars on it. We have a bunch of workstations running F= reeBSD=2C However as i been reading through the documentation=2C the canoni= cal situacion would be a environment where the machines netboot over the se= rver=2C get most of their partitions over NFS and have NIS installed so use= rs can authenticate at the server and share resources available at the clus= ter.=20 >=20 not an answer to your question=2C but you might be interested by this http:= //mini-itx.com/projects/cluster/ might give you some insight into what you are looking for -Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 17:11:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB1D106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8A48FC1F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V3rK1a0090x6nqcA45Be6G; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:38 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V5Bc1a00W2P6wsM8Y5Bdda; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:37 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hrLvRwa39ukA:10 a=q5Nov78KhrQA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=OLBBSDpEJRsm4qjv8dwA:9 a=wdXWXafKav7Ujz0TKnAA:7 a=4yH8RjhqGrjVBmcC-QIiO0BpNhQA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=kAvCECtw-ygA:10 a=cYHCdljoD4UA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=a4heeSUPNxgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3845C9432; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:11:36 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Paul Schmehl Message-ID: <20081020171136.GA8224@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081016090102.17qwm4xcs6f4so8ok@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> <72F12B8A0320E2A18685A679@utd65257.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <72F12B8A0320E2A18685A679@utd65257.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:23:18 +0000 Cc: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , eculp@casasponti.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:38 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:16:31AM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Monday, October 20, 2008 10:24:28 -0500 "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" > wrote: > >>> >>> Let me know if you do find a reliable, decent solution that does not >>> involve SPF or postfix header_checks or body_checks. >>> >> >> The following doesn't fix the problem but it does help mitigate the deluge. >> We use a PERL script to tail our maillogs looking for any source IP that >> tries to send mail to more than 4 invalid addresses. When flagged, that IP >> is then added to a PF table that blocks the address and issues RST's for 12 >> hours. Of course, we also have a whitelist for "valid" SMTP servers. Like I >> said, it doesn't catch it all, but it catches *a lot* and generates almost no >> complaints. This does help obfuscate the valid/invalid addresses because all >> mail is accepted as far as the sender is concerned until the IP is blocked at >> the network layer. >> >> The usual complaint is from an remote office that has 12 real estate agents >> behind a single IP, all with Outlook set to check mail "sooner than now." :-) >> > > The best solution *by far* that I have found for spam (using Postfix) is > mail/postfix-policyd-weight. It routinely rejects 50 to 70% of incoming > mail with no false positives. It took *very* little tweaking to get it > to this point, and it rejects the mail before postfix even deals with it. > I use spamassassin as well, but policyd-weight does the heavy lifting. > > Here's one example of a rejected email: > > Oct 20 11:11:16 mail postfix/policyd-weight[77973]: weighted check: > IN_DYN_PBL_SPAMHAUS=3.25 NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_SPAMCOP=-1.5 > NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_NE_HELO=4.75 REV_IP_EQ_HELO=-1.25 > NOK_HELO_SEEMS_DIALUP=5 (check from: .hinet. - helo: > .dsl.dynamic8121373125.ttnet. - helo-domain: .ttnet.) > FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_UNVR_HELO(DOMAIN)=4.85 > CLIENT_NOT_MX/A_FROM_DOMAIN=4.75 CLIENT/24_NOT_MX/A_FROM_DOMAIN=4.75; > > ; rate: 21.6 > Oct 20 11:11:16 mail postfix/policyd-weight[77973]: decided action=550 > Mail appeared to be SPAM or forged. Ask your Mail/DNS-Administrator to > correct HELO and DNS MX settings or to get removed from DNSBLs; please > relay via your ISP (ms35.hinet.net); Please use DynDNS; > > ; delay: 8s > > Anything above 1 is rejected. This email scored 21.6, which is off the charts. > > It even does greylisting. > > Oct 20 10:45:47 mail postfix/policyd-weight[28339]: decided action=550 > temporarily blocked because of previous errors - retrying too fast. > penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.; > > ; delay: 0s > Oct 20 10:46:51 mail postfix/policyd-weight[28339]: decided action=550 > temporarily blocked because of previous errors - retrying too fast. > penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.; > > ; delay: 0s > > It does let some spam through, which spamassassin catches, but it rejects > all the bogus stuff (fake hostnames, bogus MTAs, forged from addresses, > etc., etc.) We used to use numerous features in postfix to block mail during different phases of the SMTP handshake, requiring strings meet RFC standards, comply with being FQDNs, resolve, blah blah... It worked great... until... One day, one of my users mailed me stating they were in a lot of trouble: they hadn't been receiving any mails from eBay, specifically contact from buyers/sellers (to negotiate payment means, etc.), and outbid notifications. I went digging through logs, and sure enough found the cause: eBay's HELO strings were what pedants would call "absolutely preposterous". They violated 3 or 4 different checks postfix had. At first I tuned postfix to allow certain IP blocks through that check, only to find that it's nearly impossible to determine all of the IP blocks eBay has -- in fact, some of their mail gets siphoned through a third-party mailer, and it looks like that mailer uses IPs all over the place. Meaning: administrative nightmare. There is nothing worse than telling your users "Okay, I've fixed it", only to get mail from them 24 hours later stating "Umm, no you didn't, and this is really starting to piss me off". I went through the same ordeal with other users and their LiveJournal mail notifications being blocked. The point I'm trying to make is that all this overly-aggressive filtering might work great if you're one guy maintaining your own box only used by you -- and I have a feeling a lot of people who post on this list are exactly that. It's a **completely** different game when you've got other people reliant upon your mail filtering decisions. The problem with blocking mail "early on" (meaning before it's queued, e.g. SMTP 5xx or 4xx rejections) is that the end-user has no knowledge of this. They simply do not get the mail. They're left in the dark, wondering "Did send the mail? Are they lying to me? What's going on???". It's a very sensitive thing when you're a hosting provider. In the case of my users, they would much rather get the mail and have it incorrectly flagged as spam, than not get it at all. I personally believe this directly reflects on the state of anti-spam affairs: we've gotten so aggressive that *who KNOWS* what kind of legitimate mail we're blocking. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 17:44:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B03F106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benoit@goyave.org) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC298FC16 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benoit@goyave.org) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF83A19B70 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:44:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (nor75-3-82-226-36-211.fbx.proxad.net [82.226.36.211]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388AF19B2A for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:43:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FCC351.7090408@goyave.org> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:43:45 +0200 From: Benoit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48FB0987.6090407@goyave.org> <20081019203741.GA80542@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20081019203741.GA80542@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Freebsd7 mingw32 compilation utilities missing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:44:04 -0000 Roland Smith a écrit : > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 12:18:47PM +0200, Benoit wrote: >> Hello, >> >> i don't know if it's the good section to talk about it... >> >> Yesterday, i want to "cross-compile" an old windows program, so i >> installed mingw32-bin-msvcrt-r3.12.a3.9 but i can't compile because the >> compiler and others tools are missing on freeBSD 7, i guess. I guess it >> because on freeBSD 6, i can see many other packages like >> mingw32-binutils mingw-gcc etc etc. So my question is : how to have on >> freeBSD 7, all packages required to build my program ? > > The devel/mingw32-gcc port/package is the top package/port that you need > to install. All other mingw packages/ports are dependancies or optional extras. > Thanks you for your help Roland. :) Benoît From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 17:50:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E7510656AC for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (fed1rmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.241.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32C18FC29 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081020173844.SBXW6684.fed1rmmtao102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:38:44 -0400 Received: from asus64 ([98.176.32.63]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id V5ek1a0071MjGMu045ekr7; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:38:44 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DSnYAew2poV4hH8HoTgA:9 a=Y3_VhdzD4E7_lbfdbi0A:7 a=TPJ-UL9tqNx7tEMGJWeIr1aPsEkA:4 a=SKpDKCWXRSQA:10 a=YPT89hz1KMQpDnAyE6cA:9 a=Gn4FGxn62jqE5J9U_2kA:7 a=nWCu3N1nDxvB8OrXzG1eU1NQDQsA:4 a=aWTTYslQkP0A:10 a=BDXKcin-EtgA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:38:39 -0700 From: Robert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081020103839.369884cf@asus64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/1Vr4G_qcT_RbAwufQVF86w5" Subject: disappearing mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:50:53 -0000 --MP_/1Vr4G_qcT_RbAwufQVF86w5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Greetings FreeBSD When running XFCE4 I will lose the mouse pointer at times. This will only happen when I have the driver set to "nv" in xorg.conf. The mouse will still work as I can see where it is when I pass over icons and watch them highlight. If I can stop on an icon, I can click and it works. If I drop out of the XFCE4 using ctl-alt-backspace, the mouse pointer appears and all is well. If I restart the XFCE4, there is no pointer. If I change the driver to "vesa" and restart then I have a pointer again. The only way I have found to regain the pointer using "nv" is to reboot. All ports are up to date and I am running amd64 RELENG_7 as of last Saturday. uname -a FreeBSD asus64.shasta204.local 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Oct 18 13:31:00 PDT 2008 root@asus64.shasta204.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 If I should have posted to a different list please let me know. I have also attached my xorg.conf. 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , eculp@casasponti.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:05:09 -0000 --On Monday, October 20, 2008 10:11:36 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:16:31AM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >> The best solution *by far* that I have found for spam (using Postfix) is >> mail/postfix-policyd-weight. It routinely rejects 50 to 70% of incoming >> mail with no false positives. It took *very* little tweaking to get it >> to this point, and it rejects the mail before postfix even deals with it. >> I use spamassassin as well, but policyd-weight does the heavy lifting. >> > > We used to use numerous features in postfix to block mail during > different phases of the SMTP handshake, requiring strings meet RFC > standards, comply with being FQDNs, resolve, blah blah... It > worked great... until... > > One day, one of my users mailed me stating they were in a lot of > trouble: they hadn't been receiving any mails from eBay, specifically > contact from buyers/sellers (to negotiate payment means, etc.), and > outbid notifications. > > I went digging through logs, and sure enough found the cause: eBay's > HELO strings were what pedants would call "absolutely preposterous". > They violated 3 or 4 different checks postfix had. At first I tuned > postfix to allow certain IP blocks through that check, only to find > that it's nearly impossible to determine all of the IP blocks eBay > has -- in fact, some of their mail gets siphoned through a third-party > mailer, and it looks like that mailer uses IPs all over the place. > Meaning: administrative nightmare. > > There is nothing worse than telling your users "Okay, I've fixed it", > only to get mail from them 24 hours later stating "Umm, no you didn't, > and this is really starting to piss me off". > > I went through the same ordeal with other users and their LiveJournal > mail notifications being blocked. > > The point I'm trying to make is that all this overly-aggressive > filtering might work great if you're one guy maintaining your own box > only used by you -- and I have a feeling a lot of people who post on > this list are exactly that. It's a **completely** different game when > you've got other people reliant upon your mail filtering decisions. > > The problem with blocking mail "early on" (meaning before it's queued, > e.g. SMTP 5xx or 4xx rejections) is that the end-user has no knowledge > of this. They simply do not get the mail. They're left in the dark, > wondering "Did send the mail? Are they lying to me? What's > going on???". It's a very sensitive thing when you're a hosting > provider. > > In the case of my users, they would much rather get the mail and have it > incorrectly flagged as spam, than not get it at all. I personally > believe this directly reflects on the state of anti-spam affairs: we've > gotten so aggressive that *who KNOWS* what kind of legitimate mail we're > blocking. That's why it's critically important that whatever tools you use be highly configurable. In the case of policyd-weight, you can configure it so that it passes *everything* through but marks it in such a way that you can filter it appropriately. In my case, I run a small hobby website with a minimal number of email addresses. When I first installed policyd-weight, I watched it closely and discovered it was blocking legitimate mail from sbcglobal because they didn't have their mail servers' dns properly configured. The result was a score just slightly higher than the threshold for rejection (a tenth of a point or two.) I decided to make that particular check worth less overall, and that solved the problem. I have yet to receive a single complaint about mail not getting through, and, although there's only a handful of accounts on the server, we get mail from our website users constantly. I fully understand where you're coming from, Jeremy. We have the same issues at UTD. But for many smaller sites, policyd-weight would be a godsend. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 18:09:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA9E106566C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB4A08FC24 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 81493 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2008 18:09:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=1kj7aAErVlsbxAbBHLwJqKTk+LJeqK2Wb0jzbeGVH+UezgsCksov4wwG+2Q4iwgOb5HVOhweQViI23B7nqfCHjE2DD5VUcdOcAm0m1itJ70aLk1Hvl/2JvNzUg185Q8zZT+HJ0To2RTUIdzNeAI72BUnIJvyPeBBiDyciMNfhjA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@67.189.233.182 with login) by smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Oct 2008 18:09:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6nfXJj0VM1kx8GKM7T9_Uq_5GUTSSZtfMNWQ_QMA8zKxzFFkS7O1YEvj6RtShbuvmcV3_f2cKLlRK5uRiYNg3R7R3eh0W23FBmgVPn09F8T_OVlxOnWFuzAw8DbJ7Lz0kSvkg_kw.c3n1ADwHTO.YFxtyTNOFgM_7.Hlryki4X.a89Xqv5gmPgXi_w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:08:53 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081020140853.6074a0d3@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/qAjkHO2DaJMf4dz_KP=2F.M"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Updating openssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:06 -0000 --Sig_/qAjkHO2DaJMf4dz_KP=2F.M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I presently have the base version of 'openssl' installed. If I wanted to install the ports' version, is there anything special I have to do? I presently have: "WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=3Dyes" in the /etc/make.conf file. I assume I should remove that prior to build the port. Does the port version replace the base version or do I have to do anything else? Thanks! --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that balances are correct. Princess Irulan, "Manual of Maud'Dib" --Sig_/qAjkHO2DaJMf4dz_KP=2F.M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj8yT4ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO1+dgCgnxAxtDCdSHeSk5zy2WY+QLDH yEwAoImVrbRglTbQgvNMNC8pHcU+NVg4 =30yk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/qAjkHO2DaJMf4dz_KP=2F.M-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 18:12:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB030106569D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645938FC2F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (cpe-24-161-50-5.hvc.res.rr.com [24.161.50.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KIC4pc053724 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9KIBwfA026047 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:11:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9KIBwGp026045 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:11:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200810201811.m9KIBwGp026045@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:11:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 192.168.3.21 Subject: Right way to mount/edit dd of a disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:12:15 -0000 Hi, I have a Linux dd file thats an image of the entire disk. If I use the fdisk-linux and do : # fdisk -ul some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd You must set cylinders. You can do this from the extra functions menu. Disk some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd: 0 MB, 0 bytes 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 0 cylinders, total 0 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000000 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd1 8192 1535999 763904 5 Extended some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd4 * 32 8191 4080 4 FAT16 <32M some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd5 8224 106495 49136 6 FAT16 some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd6 106528 204799 49136 6 FAT16 some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd7 204832 430079 112624 fc Unknown some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd8 430112 1535999 552944 6 FAT16 Partition table entries are not in disk order It looks like a good filesystem. So then I : mdconfig -a -t vnode -f some-big-3.5.0_Update_2-103909.i386.dd -u 0 mount -t msdos /dev/md0s5 /mnt to be able to get the dd5 on /mnt. I then edited the files I wanted, replaced them, and copied back to /mnt. I did "umount /mnt" and copied the dd file back to where it needed to be. It seems it didn't like it, and I'm trying to find out if editing it the way I did wasn't quite "allowed". Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 19:07:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C72B106566C; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34CA8FC12; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KJ7kR6095957; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:07:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Jeremy Chadwick Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:45:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <1224518837.13417.6.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081020163237.GA7671@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081020163237.GA7671@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:07:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8451/Mon Oct 20 12:02:15 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: robert@webtent.com, FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:07:59 -0000 On Monday 20 October 2008 12:32:37 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > Forgot to mention I added memory to this server as well, took it from > > 2GB it was using under 5.4-RELEASE up to 6GB filling all slots, that is > > why I wanted to load amd64. I reduced down to 4GB and now am able to > > install 7.0-RELEASE i386. Does this mean that I may have a hardware > > issue or can FreeBSD produce the page fault I was getting when using > > over 4GB with i386? > > i386 cannot address more than 4GB unless the kernel is built with PAE > mode enabled. This isn't enabled in GENERIC for many (justified) > reasons. If you have more than 4GB, you should be using amd64, so you > made the right decision there. If you aren't using kernel modules, then PAE should work fine. You can make kernel modules work with PAE as well, but that takes more work. > > I would love to figure out this BTX halted issue instead...any ideas > > on that? > > Boot loader problems are difficult to figure out/debug for reasons which > should be obvious. I'm CC'ing John Baldwin here, who has experience > with BTX. He might be able to shed some light on this. You will get a BTX fault in 7.0 if your CPU does not support 64-bit "long mode" (i.e., amd64). You can check to see if your CPU does support it by looking in the 'AMD features' line of 'dmesg' from an i386 kernel and seeing if you have a 'LM' feature. If you don't, your CPU only supports i386. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 19:25:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C6E106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB538FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 94519 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2008 19:25:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2008 19:25:24 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:25:23 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:25:26 -0000 On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > John Almberg wrote: >> I have two FreeBSD machines. One is a application server, the other a >> database server running mysql. These machines are in two different >> locations. I'd like to allow the application server to access mysql >> through an SSH tunnel. >> >> Being a newbie admin, I've never set up an SSH tunnel. I've been >> reading about them all morning and (as always) there seems to be more >> than one way to skin this cat. >> >> I'm looking for ease of set up and maintenance, as well as security >> (which I assume is a given.) I'd prefer NOT to have to recompile the >> kernels (pure cowardice... the application server is a production >> server that I don't want to experiment with.) Both servers have >> OpenSSL. >> >> Any recommendations, much appreciated. >> >> Thanks: John >> > > A very basic ssh tunnel is a simple as > ssh -L3306:127.0.0.1:3306 user@remote.host > > This will forward any connections to localhost on port 3306 through > the > ssh connection to remote.host then on to localhost at that end on port > 3306. if you have mysql running on the app server as well then change > -L3306:127.0.0.1:3306 to -L33006:127.0.0.1:3306 where 33006 is an > unused tcp port on the application server. If you do use an ssh tunnel > you may want to use security/autossh which will monitor the tunnel and > re-establish it if it loses connection for some reason. After a few hours of work today, I have all this working perfectly. I'm using autossh to automatically create and monitor the ssh tunnel, and I can make mysql connections through the tunnel with no problems. Very cool. And that's through PF firewalls on both machines, which added flavor to the exercise ;-) One question... and maybe this is a general, philosophical question... If autossh watches over my ssh tunnel, who or what watches over autossh? As a related question, how can I make autossh start automatically after a reboot? At the moment, I start autossh from the command line, like so: > autossh -M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@dbs.example.com There doesn't seem to be an rc.d file for autossh... Do I have to figure out how to make one? Not that this machine gets rebooted more than once a year, but so far, everything running on this machine start automatically, and I'd like to keep it that way. Any tips much appreciated. Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 18:09:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445C2106569C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com) Received: from web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E81138FC1F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93769 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2008 18:09:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XmHAEBQQvscEaHUsSWlbFk1kMSxtkJVwkCK1g6ckzoI9riP9VT2S/X0MGqcx3wxjxxeFLajT3LPHkDYw1//b7tbzijS93b8k1L4Au7/bwRmT4FTYjDSf5Pm1NZkRTrYUz1G3BBEcWsCgyQUqxE6CaOj+O3UOBRsdf2b+9PAAJeM=; X-YMail-OSG: vOcawocVM1l.V0wSLd2_s8_vGe52tSgRdAOsxvOs36txJ7UQazmmNElT1PYMxaHIe8DrM43pFu8TKth1ydiqxiCUnNNK.El21.By7MQnJGaXrhTWktV8.JZJ_x5wbDCk_XvLCYCa6d87GC51LBQScVg_Y9o6AbkBEXMh6rp2wsztF.g9G.4K269h3j0q Received: from [63.245.17.123] by web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:09:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:09:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerardo Paredes To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <955145.83577.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:32:34 +0000 Subject: RE: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:09:56 -0000 --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > From: Sean Cavanaugh > Subject: RE: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster > To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com, "FreeBSD Questions" > Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 9:52 AM > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:19:28 -0700 > > From: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster > > > > Hello, i am interested in setting up a small cluster, > of about 5 machines to show how this can work on a > university environment. Its kind of a pitch to university > authorities to show them how this work so they can think on > investing top dollars on it. We have a bunch of > workstations running FreeBSD, However as i been reading > through the documentation, the canonical situacion would be > a environment where the machines netboot over the server, > get most of their partitions over NFS and have NIS installed > so users can authenticate at the server and share resources > available at the cluster. > > > > > not an answer to your question, but you might be interested > by this http://mini-itx.com/projects/cluster/ > might give you some insight into what you are looking for > > -Sean Sean, the link you provided does a good job of helping someone understand the process involved in setting up a cluster, even if it doesn't provide detailed information in a "HOW-TO" like fashion. Then i guess is up to me to get going and ask questions where i get stuck. Maybe do the How-to documentation of my own in the process. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 19:50:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31569106569D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B663A8FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (port=45728 helo=smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks0lL-0007Jm-6T; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:49:59 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks0lG-00039z-Tx; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:49:55 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E4639841; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FCE0E0.70103@boosten.org> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:49:52 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ks0lG-00039z-Tx X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:50:01 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > >> John Almberg wrote: >>> I have two FreeBSD machines. One is a application server, the other a >>> database server running mysql. These machines are in two different >>> locations. I'd like to allow the application server to access mysql >>> through an SSH tunnel. >>> >>> Being a newbie admin, I've never set up an SSH tunnel. I've been >>> reading about them all morning and (as always) there seems to be more >>> than one way to skin this cat. >>> >>> I'm looking for ease of set up and maintenance, as well as security >>> (which I assume is a given.) I'd prefer NOT to have to recompile the >>> kernels (pure cowardice... the application server is a production >>> server that I don't want to experiment with.) Both servers have OpenSSL. >>> >>> Any recommendations, much appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks: John >>> >> >> A very basic ssh tunnel is a simple as >> ssh -L3306:127.0.0.1:3306 user@remote.host >> >> This will forward any connections to localhost on port 3306 through the >> ssh connection to remote.host then on to localhost at that end on port >> 3306. if you have mysql running on the app server as well then change >> -L3306:127.0.0.1:3306 to -L33006:127.0.0.1:3306 where 33006 is an >> unused tcp port on the application server. If you do use an ssh tunnel >> you may want to use security/autossh which will monitor the tunnel and >> re-establish it if it loses connection for some reason. > > After a few hours of work today, I have all this working perfectly. I'm > using autossh to automatically create and monitor the ssh tunnel, and I > can make mysql connections through the tunnel with no problems. Very cool. > > And that's through PF firewalls on both machines, which added flavor to > the exercise ;-) > > One question... and maybe this is a general, philosophical question... > > If autossh watches over my ssh tunnel, who or what watches over autossh? > > As a related question, how can I make autossh start automatically after > a reboot? At the moment, I start autossh from the command line, like so: > >> autossh -M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@dbs.example.com > > There doesn't seem to be an rc.d file for autossh... Do I have to figure > out how to make one? > You can do this all by not using autossh at all: let init watch and re-establish your ssh tunnel: This is in my /etc/ttys (wrapped for readability): ttyv8 "/usr/bin/ssh -l syslogng -nNTx -R 3306:local.domain.tld:3306 remote.domain.tld >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on I let my central machine control the tunnel, not the sending one. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 19:56:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D791065675 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from msa.vap.navalradio.cl (smtp.vap.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF288FC18 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [172.18.64.125] ([172.18.64.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa.vap.navalradio.cl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KDWpCI050953; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:32:51 GMT (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <48FC887D.90400@webanoide.org> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:32:45 -0300 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Bud References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:56:37 -0000 Valentin Bud wrote: > hello list, > a little story about samba and FreeBSD. > I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for > accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the > directories and files > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months but > after that > at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. > The files were there with the correct permissions but the software refused > to access them with > an error that they don't exist. I've tried to debug samba but couldn't find [...] Here's another story. Our accounting packages also dump their files, databases and settings onto network drives. This is what we tend to do: 1.- Create a dedicated network drive for every software package with its own letter. Let's say package XYZ gets letter Y:. All users connecting to Samba must load network drive for XYZ as Y:. Otherwise some client instances may complain that the database was installed on Y: but there's nothing because it is actually somewhere else. 2.- Create user xyz and group xyz. Then map the XYZ network drive as xyz:xyz. By this, we avoid permission problems. 3.- Whenever we call tech support, we tell them that our network drives are located on a Windows 2003 machine. This saves us unnecessary headaches and warranty issues. We've been doing this for years and it works like a charm. Regards, Mikhail. -- Mikhail Goriachev Webanoide From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 20:17:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518FC106567B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012EC8FC19 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so357389yxb.13 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=nVhVAHhWJmiEFAuBk4Kj6Q0IPrdNmZKX1aDQxNDwwJA=; b=cfh4KusYMcOxjEMNEipYEb1rxcieeKOzN+u9AFQHfN3P6Jqit1E+D6cs2qm98EtgC+ /ThRlpXh9emFqd4Ov0fZ2X47s43d3qTTEVoVdv/Ox16IEooJHVQ8jpfkcYlIuVvIpxnl Gi07HOweqoekWcC+LXWPoA7YQrp6RQWaqICBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=OklLPWpWyUW1qThVUx/PmsKORQCcKwUR2cSVtoaSQTaki9l4iGW5M5dwYnG9LCQ6Yd NRiH7/Mt7ILWJXI6eUa/PgrzNGlTq9NH249FUuHuYkxfJoFyWgXE2apiN+oFDHzwEGm2 hrG+YSI5tHMnEa9U+1PQsoNvYErT0kiTDFZHg= Received: by 10.142.169.4 with SMTP id r4mr3302721wfe.63.1224533826622; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.5 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90810201317u6b7a6f22y186c461a08b97291@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:06 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Barry Byrne" In-Reply-To: <80C987422C3A4FB58CAC85EC960E99CC@wbt.wbtsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90810071356g1d07d339yeaa5bc6f20b14109@mail.gmail.com> <80C987422C3A4FB58CAC85EC960E99CC@wbt.wbtsystems.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: acd8a898fae65347 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to break portsnap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:17:08 -0000 On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Barry Byrne wrote: >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Steve Franks >> Sent: 07 October 2008 21:57 > >> I've googled high & low but I cannot find much other that "this cannot >> happen" replies. I've got a dual boot to amd64 and i386. The amd64 >> hasn't been able to portsnap fetch or cron since march. The i386 I >> just installed, and it portsnap's fine, so it's not a firewall or >> related issue. I've checked my key and it looks ok. What am I >> missing? >> >> Best, >> Steve >> >> >> dystant# portsnap fetch >> Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. >> Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... done. >> Fetching snapshot metadata... done. >> Updating from Mon Mar 3 07:50:14 MST 2008 to Tue Oct 7 >> 12:43:25 MST 2008. >> Fetching 0 metadata patches. done. >> Applying metadata patches... done. >> Fetching 0 metadata files... done. >> Fetching 12365 patches.. done. >> Applying patches... done. >> Fetching 13708 new ports or files... /usr/sbin/portsnap: cannot open >> e53d7ea3f6fbc2e6a87a1f194ea623fc6b27c74d9aecfd61e0d765e86d861ad5.gz: >> No such file or directory >> snapshot is corrupt. >> dystant# > > Steve: > > Are you using a proxy server? If so this could be perhaps the proxy server > not fully supporting HTTP/1.1 persistent > connections. Can you try this: > > sysctl net.inet.ip.portrange.randomized=0 > portsnap fetch update > Well, I can't say for sure if that works. I'm definitely behind a ugly cheap-o windows firewall (iserver), but sometimes it works, and sometimes not...can't hurt, though, right? Best, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 20:39:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E941106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17F28FC1E for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so2374810fkk.11 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:39:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bW+EEkL4HALbA4vdMlpTHvMKLUm5xhbM+oZi5DDADTc=; b=U6YOD8588pj9+lOPywFvUQwl6G/F3k3tvPUAFqQdKsetNj+zGsgSv+FOBzxKopmFaB x7Wv6OsvbGVPKYfexOrDh6+HVOpzUVuwEBN2BCNpALTual5uvEqubsp3WpJfp9NWZCNv pAp/gIy52ENhLMOOQVDOR9KFMBhtoJcpHbi9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hd5PQt0cBhht7zZPseLau3ffFa6/KvugegaHuOlCCXh5BA3thwFQsoeBgj04VJCJPT JT8BkmgDiD49B6/lqFUGKDLMoMEZYNmtMwlCDLgcXB0c7hBXPxH/WaC/5kIRHwLeNMpS 40s8DLTCkSVsq45W88WoLqKhtID1j7fdRnckQ= Received: by 10.187.196.3 with SMTP id y3mr1195286fap.74.1224533831409; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.187.217.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26ddd1750810201317l387e0387v2deebffb039a724d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:17:11 -0400 From: "Maxim Khitrov" To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <955145.83577.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <955145.83577.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:39:45 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Gerardo Paredes wrote: > Sean, the link you provided does a good job of helping someone understand the process involved in setting up a cluster, even if it doesn't provide detailed information in a "HOW-TO" like fashion. Then i guess is up to me to get going and ask questions where i get stuck. Maybe do the How-to documentation of my own in the process. > > > Gerardo Paredes I would be very interested in any documentation you can come up with as you go forward with this project. I currently work in a bioinformatics organization that uses external HPC clusters, and I'd love to setup a small local cluster of our own some day. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 20:50:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2C31065674 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D2B8FC20 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 5635 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2008 20:50:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2008 20:50:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> References: From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:50:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Fwd: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:50:09 -0000 >> >> After a few hours of work today, I have all this working >> perfectly. I'm >> using autossh to automatically create and monitor the ssh tunnel, >> and I >> can make mysql connections through the tunnel with no problems. >> Very cool. >> >> And that's through PF firewalls on both machines, which added >> flavor to >> the exercise ;-) >> >> One question... and maybe this is a general, philosophical >> question... >> >> If autossh watches over my ssh tunnel, who or what watches over >> autossh? >> >> As a related question, how can I make autossh start automatically >> after >> a reboot? At the moment, I start autossh from the command line, >> like so: >> >>> autossh -M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@dbs.example.com >> >> There doesn't seem to be an rc.d file for autossh... Do I have to >> figure >> out how to make one? >> > > You can do this all by not using autossh at all: let init watch and > re-establish your ssh tunnel: > > This is in my /etc/ttys (wrapped for readability): > > ttyv8 "/usr/bin/ssh -l syslogng -nNTx -R 3306:local.domain.tld:3306 > remote.domain.tld >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on > > I let my central machine control the tunnel, not the sending one. H'mmm... This is new territory for me. I've just read some of the man pages and a few pages in Absolute BSD, and I guess I sort of understand what this does. I'm trying to grasp the connection between virtual terminals and this SSH tunnel... I guess my main question is, if I start the tunnel with this method, will I be able to access mysql in 'the usual way'? The following works with my autossh tunnel: mysql -h127.0.0.1 -P33006 -uuser -ppassword db So, if using the /etc/ttys file is equivalent, and I make the connection on the database server, rather than the client server, then I guess my ttys file should look like this (my ttyv8 is already used... I am guessing I should use the next one down): ttyv7 "/usr/bin/ssh -l admin -nNTx -R 3306:127.0.0.1:33006 example.com >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on Where 'admin' is the user I am logging into on the remote machine, and 'example.com' is the hostname of the remote machine. I guess equivalent to the following? ttyv7 "/usr/bin/ssh -nNTx -R 3306:127.0.0.1:33006 admin@example.com >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on Port 33006 is not a typo. There are databases running on both machines, so I need to use a different port for the tunnel. And as far as I can tell, I reload /etc/ttys with 'kill -1 1'. This looks dangerous... -- John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Websites and Marketing for On-line Collectible Dealers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Identry, LLC John Almberg (631) 546-5079 jalmberg@identry.com www.identry.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:05:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F01106567C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B248FC27 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.16.6] (helo=moosa) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ks1vs-000ITp-Ra; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:04:57 +0400 To: "Maxim Khitrov" References: <955145.83577.qm@web65611.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <26ddd1750810201317l387e0387v2deebffb039a724d@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:04:51 +0400 In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750810201317l387e0387v2deebffb039a724d@mail.gmail.com> (Maxim Khitrov's message of "Mon\, 20 Oct 2008 16\:17\:11 -0400") Message-ID: <14915068@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions , gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:05:03 -0000 On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:17:11 -0400 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > I would be very interested in any documentation you can come up with > as you go forward with this project. I currently work in a > bioinformatics organization that uses external HPC clusters, and I'd > love to setup a small local cluster of our own some day. Not a direct answer but there is a special maillist for the subject -- freebsd-cluster@. Sometime earlier I've got a very informative answers from it's archieves. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:06:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B9F1065680 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2998FC21 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: (qmail 90921 invoked by uid 0); 20 Oct 2008 20:39:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.103) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 20 Oct 2008 20:39:36 -0000 From: mv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, glarkin@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:39:33 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.1; amd64; ; ) References: <648870.44443.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48FBE4FC.4090301@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48FBE4FC.4090301@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810201639.34422.mrkvrg@acm.org> Cc: Dino Vliet , alecn2002@yandex.ru Subject: Re: error installing kmymoney2 on amd64 system running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:06:18 -0000 Hello Greg, When I tried to upgrade kmymoney2 on my amd64 6.4-PRERELEASE using portmaster I also received the same error message as Dino. However, after I amended the Makefile as you had suggested portmaster worked as it should. Just wanted to let you know that you seem to be on the right track. With thanks and regards, Marek On Sunday 19 October 2008 21:55:08 Greg Larkin wrote: > > Dino Vliet wrote: > > > > > > Hi Greg > > > > > > Here the tow output file pkg_info_output.txt and the Makefile > > as attachments because otherwise this messsage would be too > > large (I know that the freebsd mailinglist will not let my > > message through) > > > > Brgds > > Dino > > Hi Dino, > > Can you check in the work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en directory to see if > there is a file named errorlog or some other files with a ".log" > extension after you receive the make error? If so, please send those > as well or post them somewhere for viewing. > > It looks like the finance/kmymoney2 port Makefile needs additional > work to include dependencies on the tools that generate the PDF > documentation (pdfjadetex and others). I didn't have those tools > originally, and the PDF documentation generation was disabled. > > I installed the required tools manually, and I now get an error > during PDF generation, although it's different than what you > reported. The other thing that might be helpful is if you can change > directory into work/kmymoney2-0.8.9/doc/en, type "make -d a" and > capture the output. That will show extra debugging information from > make as it processes its targets. > > By the way, if you don't care about the PDF documentation, you can > temporarily change the port Makefile line that reads: > > CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-ofxplugin --enable-ofxbanking > --enable-pdf-docs > > to: > > CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-ofxplugin --enable-ofxbanking > > I'm likely going to make that switch dependent on the NOPORTDOCS knob > as well. > > Regards, > Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:16:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF2E1065671 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131F58FC2A for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 8544 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2008 21:16:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2008 21:16:46 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> References: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6E564226-98BE-4464-BA6C-A95848F02ABC@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:16:45 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:16:47 -0000 On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:50 PM, John Almberg wrote: >>> >>> After a few hours of work today, I have all this working >>> perfectly. I'm >>> using autossh to automatically create and monitor the ssh tunnel, >>> and I >>> can make mysql connections through the tunnel with no problems. >>> Very cool. >>> >>> And that's through PF firewalls on both machines, which added >>> flavor to >>> the exercise ;-) >>> >>> One question... and maybe this is a general, philosophical >>> question... >>> >>> If autossh watches over my ssh tunnel, who or what watches over >>> autossh? >>> >>> As a related question, how can I make autossh start automatically >>> after >>> a reboot? At the moment, I start autossh from the command line, >>> like so: >>> >>>> autossh -M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@dbs.example.com >>> >>> There doesn't seem to be an rc.d file for autossh... Do I have to >>> figure >>> out how to make one? >>> >> >> You can do this all by not using autossh at all: let init watch and >> re-establish your ssh tunnel: >> >> This is in my /etc/ttys (wrapped for readability): >> >> ttyv8 "/usr/bin/ssh -l syslogng -nNTx -R 3306:local.domain.tld:3306 >> remote.domain.tld >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on >> >> I let my central machine control the tunnel, not the sending one. > > H'mmm... This is new territory for me. I've just read some of the > man pages and a few pages in Absolute BSD, and I guess I sort of > understand what this does. I'm trying to grasp the connection > between virtual terminals and this SSH tunnel... > > I guess my main question is, if I start the tunnel with this > method, will I be able to access mysql in 'the usual way'? The > following works with my autossh tunnel: > > mysql -h127.0.0.1 -P33006 -uuser -ppassword db > > So, if using the /etc/ttys file is equivalent, and I make the > connection on the database server, rather than the client server, > then I guess my ttys file should look like this (my ttyv8 is > already used... I am guessing I should use the next one down): > > ttyv7 "/usr/bin/ssh -l admin -nNTx -R 3306:127.0.0.1:33006 > example.com >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on > > Where 'admin' is the user I am logging into on the remote machine, > and 'example.com' is the hostname of the remote machine. I guess > equivalent to the following? > > ttyv7 "/usr/bin/ssh -nNTx -R 3306:127.0.0.1:33006 > admin@example.com >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on > > Port 33006 is not a typo. There are databases running on both > machines, so I need to use a different port for the tunnel. > > And as far as I can tell, I reload /etc/ttys with 'kill -1 1'. > > This looks dangerous... > > -- John I tried this, and not surprisingly, it didn't work. Now I'm trying to debug it... Question... if I want to ssh from the database server to the application server (in the direction show -R), I need to use port 48444 (not the actual port, but something high). In other words, I need to do something like: ssh admin@example.com -p 48444 Does this ssh port have anything to do with trying to start this ssh tunnel? In other words, do I need to add a '-p 48420' to the ttyv7 command? -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:21:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916D01065684 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A14E8FC2F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V6WX1a0280mv7h0519M5gG; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:21:05 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V9LM1a00F2P6wsM3X9LM5G; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:20:22 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RKkG93-lVyoA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=5QQKvTqy2HnQ6I9mfOUA:9 a=IGXD2hA0r_V2ZrdC0NXUUF6IeYcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF5F2C9432; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:21:03 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:21:06 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:25:23PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: > On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >> John Almberg wrote: >>> I have two FreeBSD machines. One is a application server, the other a >>> database server running mysql. These machines are in two different >>> locations. I'd like to allow the application server to access mysql >>> through an SSH tunnel. I'm somewhat amazed at the fact that everyone so far has gone completely wild with SSH to solve this problem. Has anyone made the OP aware that MySQL *does* in fact support SSL natively, and that it can be used between client and server, as well as between master and slave (for replication)? The SSH tunnelling idea is fine if you want to access a MySQL server behind a firewall or on a private network, but I'm a bit confused as to why everyone's going to great lengths to use SSH to accomplish something MySQL has support for natively. Please clue me in. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:44:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1622E1065671 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from fear.mtmary.edu (fear.mtmary.edu [74.62.87.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7D98FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (war.mtmary.edu [172.16.0.200]) by fear.mtmary.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5A044B0CE; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <48FCF637.8080700@mtmary.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:20:55 -0500 From: Peter Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <20081016090102.17qwm4xcs6f4so8ok@intranet.casasponti.net> <20081016145255.GA12638@icarus.home.lan> <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031604D8C7BA@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> <72F12B8A0320E2A18685A679@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20081020171136.GA8224@icarus.home.lan> <33AA029CC5901B4D0781AA9D@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <33AA029CC5901B4D0781AA9D@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've just found a new and interesting spam source - legitimatebounce messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:44:34 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Monday, October 20, 2008 10:11:36 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick > wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:16:31AM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >>> >>> The best solution *by far* that I have found for spam (using Postfix) is >>> mail/postfix-policyd-weight. It routinely rejects 50 to 70% of incoming >>> mail with no false positives. It took *very* little tweaking to get it >>> to this point, and it rejects the mail before postfix even deals with >>> it. >>> I use spamassassin as well, but policyd-weight does the heavy lifting. >>> >> >> We used to use numerous features in postfix to block mail during >> different phases of the SMTP handshake, requiring strings meet RFC >> standards, comply with being FQDNs, resolve, blah blah... It >> worked great... until... >> >> One day, one of my users mailed me stating they were in a lot of >> trouble: they hadn't been receiving any mails from eBay, specifically >> contact from buyers/sellers (to negotiate payment means, etc.), and >> outbid notifications. >> >> I went digging through logs, and sure enough found the cause: eBay's >> HELO strings were what pedants would call "absolutely preposterous". >> They violated 3 or 4 different checks postfix had. At first I tuned >> postfix to allow certain IP blocks through that check, only to find >> that it's nearly impossible to determine all of the IP blocks eBay >> has -- in fact, some of their mail gets siphoned through a third-party >> mailer, and it looks like that mailer uses IPs all over the place. >> Meaning: administrative nightmare. >> >> There is nothing worse than telling your users "Okay, I've fixed it", >> only to get mail from them 24 hours later stating "Umm, no you didn't, >> and this is really starting to piss me off". >> >> I went through the same ordeal with other users and their LiveJournal >> mail notifications being blocked. >> >> The point I'm trying to make is that all this overly-aggressive >> filtering might work great if you're one guy maintaining your own box >> only used by you -- and I have a feeling a lot of people who post on >> this list are exactly that. It's a **completely** different game when >> you've got other people reliant upon your mail filtering decisions. >> >> The problem with blocking mail "early on" (meaning before it's queued, >> e.g. SMTP 5xx or 4xx rejections) is that the end-user has no knowledge >> of this. They simply do not get the mail. They're left in the dark, >> wondering "Did send the mail? Are they lying to me? What's >> going on???". It's a very sensitive thing when you're a hosting >> provider. >> >> In the case of my users, they would much rather get the mail and have it >> incorrectly flagged as spam, than not get it at all. I personally >> believe this directly reflects on the state of anti-spam affairs: we've >> gotten so aggressive that *who KNOWS* what kind of legitimate mail we're >> blocking. > > That's why it's critically important that whatever tools you use be > highly configurable. In the case of policyd-weight, you can configure > it so that it passes *everything* through but marks it in such a way > that you can filter it appropriately. > > In my case, I run a small hobby website with a minimal number of email > addresses. When I first installed policyd-weight, I watched it closely > and discovered it was blocking legitimate mail from sbcglobal because > they didn't have their mail servers' dns properly configured. The > result was a score just slightly higher than the threshold for rejection > (a tenth of a point or two.) I decided to make that particular check > worth less overall, and that solved the problem. > > I have yet to receive a single complaint about mail not getting through, > and, although there's only a handful of accounts on the server, we get > mail from our website users constantly. > > I fully understand where you're coming from, Jeremy. We have the same > issues at UTD. But for many smaller sites, policyd-weight would be a > godsend Is there an opinion on the end of policyd-weight? Specifically on the alternative listed on the main page, postfwd. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:45:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A831065673 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368C28FC19 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 11914 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2008 21:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2008 21:45:56 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:45:55 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:45:57 -0000 On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:25:23PM -0400, John Almberg wrote: >> On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: >>> John Almberg wrote: >>>> I have two FreeBSD machines. One is a application server, the >>>> other a >>>> database server running mysql. These machines are in two different >>>> locations. I'd like to allow the application server to access mysql >>>> through an SSH tunnel. > > I'm somewhat amazed at the fact that everyone so far has gone > completely > wild with SSH to solve this problem. > > Has anyone made the OP aware that MySQL *does* in fact support SSL > natively, and that it can be used between client and server, as > well as > between master and slave (for replication)? > > The SSH tunnelling idea is fine if you want to access a MySQL server > behind a firewall or on a private network, but I'm a bit confused > as to > why everyone's going to great lengths to use SSH to accomplish > something > MySQL has support for natively. > > Please clue me in. :-) Hi Jeremy, There are two PF firewalls in the mix, one at each end. The two machines are in different data centers. Actually, that is motivation behind this exercise. The client wants the database in his own data center, since it contains information he needs to have physical control over. I do know that Mysql supports SSL... somehow this got discounted early in the discussion, perhaps mistakenly? Anyway, the autossh option works perfectly, so I think I will stick with that unless there's a good reason not to. I have Monit running on the remote server, so I can probably monitor/restart autossh with that (with another few hours reading, of course :-) -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 23:21:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADECD1065672 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D907D8FC22 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KNKv8u024355; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:20:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9KNKu5M024352; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:20:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:20:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" In-Reply-To: <200810201811.m9KIBwGp026045@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Message-ID: <20081021012041.T24350@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200810201811.m9KIBwGp026045@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Right way to mount/edit dd of a disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:21:01 -0000 > mount -t msdos /dev/md0s5 /mnt > > to be able to get the dd5 on /mnt. I then edited the files I wanted, > replaced them, and copied back to /mnt. I did "umount /mnt" and copied the dd > file back to where it needed to be. did you mdconfig -d before copying image? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 23:45:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42496106566C for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E158FC1F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (cpe-24-161-50-5.hvc.res.rr.com [24.161.50.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9KNjc4Z056909; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9KNjVi5030416; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:45:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9KNjVfF030415; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:45:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200810202345.m9KNjVfF030415@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:45:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20081021012041.T24350@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 192.168.3.21 Cc: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: Right way to mount/edit dd of a disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:45:49 -0000 > > > mount -t msdos /dev/md0s5 /mnt > > > > to be able to get the dd5 on /mnt. I then edited the files I wanted, > > replaced them, and copied back to /mnt. I did "umount /mnt" and copied the dd > > file back to where it needed to be. > > did you mdconfig -d before copying image? > Well, turns out the problem I had was elsewhere with something else, but I was slowly coming back around to having to deal with this again. (Apparently FreeBSD's tar can actually create a tar that a Linux system doesn't like...) No, I didn't. That would probably have been a good idea no matter what. Will do so in the future. But otherwise my procedure seemed sane? Thanks! Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 00:53:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB8C1065671; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D508FC16; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (media.rfitz.com [72.64.244.53] (may be forged)) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9L0rMiR012444; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:53:22 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <1224518837.13417.6.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081020163237.GA7671@icarus.home.lan> <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:52:07 -0400 Message-Id: <1224550327.21638.2.camel@laptop.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:53:24 -0000 On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 13:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > i386 cannot address more than 4GB unless the kernel is built with > PAE > > mode enabled. This isn't enabled in GENERIC for many (justified) > > reasons. If you have more than 4GB, you should be using amd64, so > you > > made the right decision there. > > If you aren't using kernel modules, then PAE should work fine. You > can make > kernel modules work with PAE as well, but that takes more work. Thanks for the help, I am missing AMD Features for this CPU in dmesg, so it looks like the CPU does not support amd64. I tried to build my own kernel with PAE option and getting the following error... /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c: In function 'adv_action': /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c:259: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size *** Error code 1 Any idea what I can do for this error? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 03:09:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35808106566B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8128FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (port=46681 helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks7cf-0001NQ-Ew; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:09:29 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks7cd-0007pk-Sj; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:09:27 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2BD39841; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FD47E6.8040201@boosten.org> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:09:26 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> <6E564226-98BE-4464-BA6C-A95848F02ABC@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <6E564226-98BE-4464-BA6C-A95848F02ABC@identry.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ks7cd-0007pk-Sj X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:09:31 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > > I tried this, and not surprisingly, it didn't work. Now I'm trying to > debug it... > Maybe some mixup in the keys? In my example ssh tries to read the private key of root on the connecting server, so the server where the database is located, because init is run as root. If you need another key, then you need to specify this with the -i parameter. > Question... if I want to ssh from the database server to the application > server (in the direction show -R), I need to use port 48444 (not the > actual port, but something high). In other words, I need to do something > like: > > ssh admin@example.com -p 48444 > > Does this ssh port have anything to do with trying to start this ssh > tunnel? In other words, do I need to add a '-p 48420' to the ttyv7 command? > The command given shows a connection between the two ports (in my case 3306). One of them would then be 48420 (the first one). thus: ttyv7 "/usr/bin/ssh -l admin -nNTx -R 48420:local.domain.tld:3306 remote.domain.tld >/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on This works by allocating a socket to listen to 48420 on the remote side, and whenever a connection is made to this port, the connec tion is forwarded over the secure channel, and a connection is made to local.domain.tld port 3306 from the local machine. Obviously you would have to change local.domain.tld and remote.domain.tld with actual FQDN or IP addresses. Furthermore, since this connection is been made by root (which normally isn't) you need to verify the host key of the remote server (by either putting it in known_hosts of root by hand, or make the connection once from the prompt and answer 'y', or putting the key in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts. The connection on the remote host indeed is made with mysql -h 127.0.0.1 -P 48420 -u user -p password db regards Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 03:16:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85DC1065680 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.karapetyan@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FD48FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.karapetyan@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so892431hsz.11 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:16:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent:from; bh=l//bw4w6PVkzXhImmkqdn12YrHDvDQnu6ba0QBBgA1k=; b=ps8ilAiviHOc3u7UpaCHf3I17HCuscwxYB+yZa8zbEg0HyO2rqN/u1XwdIcsfKlL4Y AxFrCRSlLSVgR8v3ocO6Af0PIwQMF9tq0KqiLlWunxEuYywAZtFnBpH/jFhoAmsDp+Kl +yawr8a1ztjz1CpHxGDEUP8ZqaIluQl93+3u0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent:from; b=swXycfDl+lAXOsqDZu4n02GpqI0az0mfhn+UFOAzSwetmYihc0EV8hzl3b+cPxJNSj SNHRXchRDiNahmnMZuFhbDKrK+cTcK1FY6XOZc5ZQWR43QFTGt6fiXY26xiXfX3Hdl1p kEk37+jcHP1tqsIglboJWvzK26Vc4ZXK5rmUs= Received: by 10.90.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr8251530agb.55.1224558966461; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vagrant.math.nd.edu [129.74.203.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm9732501yxq.9.2008.10.20.20.16.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:16:03 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hsd1.in.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) From: David Karapetyan Subject: Apache aliased directory invisible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:16:08 -0000 FreeBSD office19.resnet.nd.edu 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Hello all. I would like to make aliased directories in apache visible from the directory root. An example: When I visit http://myserver.com/, I would like to see the 'icons' folder (suppose that in my document root I have directories 'bobo' and 'gogo', but that /icons is actually an alias for /usr/local/share/icons). Bobo and gogo show up in the directoroy listing when I access http://myserver.com, but not /icons. How can I remedy this? -- -- Best, David Karapetyan http://davidkarapetyan.homeunix.com University of Notre Dame Department of Mathematics 255 Hurley Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618 Phone: 574-631-5706 Cell: 202-460-5173 Fax: 574-631-6579 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 03:25:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515AF1065675 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0B98FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.141] (port=48736 helo=smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks7s3-0002h1-Nj; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:25:23 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp10.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks7s2-0001BE-Ta; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:25:22 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC65398DE; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:25:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FD4BA2.9070702@boosten.org> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:25:22 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> <6E564226-98BE-4464-BA6C-A95848F02ABC@identry.com> <48FD47E6.8040201@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <48FD47E6.8040201@boosten.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ks7s2-0001BE-Ta X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:25:25 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > John Almberg wrote: >> I tried this, and not surprisingly, it didn't work. Now I'm trying to >> debug it... >> > > Maybe some mixup in the keys? In my example ssh tries to read the > private key of root on the connecting server, so the server where the > database is located, because init is run as root. If you need another > key, then you need to specify this with the -i parameter. > > > >> Question... if I want to ssh from the database server to the application >> server (in the direction show -R), I need to use port 48444 (not the >> actual port, but something high). In other words, I need to do something >> like: >> >> ssh admin@example.com -p 48444 >> >> Does this ssh port have anything to do with trying to start this ssh >> tunnel? In other words, do I need to add a '-p 48420' to the ttyv7 command? I now see where you're going: you would have in case you ran sshd on another port than 22. > > regards > > Peter > -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 03:27:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542F51065676 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED948FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.138] (port=39874 helo=smtp7.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks7tm-0007Xi-Rb; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:27:10 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp7.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ks7tm-00029W-88; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:27:10 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D58839841; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:27:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FD4C0D.8090205@boosten.org> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:27:09 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Ks7tm-00029W-88 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.6, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:27:12 -0000 John Almberg wrote: > > Where 'admin' is the user I am logging into on the remote machine, and > 'example.com' is the hostname of the remote machine. I guess equivalent > to the following? > > ttyv7 "/usr/bin/ssh -nNTx -R 3306:127.0.0.1:33006 admin@example.com >>/dev/null 2>&1" unknown on > > Port 33006 is not a typo. There are databases running on both machines, > so I need to use a different port for the tunnel. I don't think this will work because of 127.0.0.1 not being a FQDN, but I could be mistaken. > > And as far as I can tell, I reload /etc/ttys with 'kill -1 1'. > > This looks dangerous... > You can safely HUP it... Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 05:19:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841A51065673 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from outbound05.telus.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AD18FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net ([75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081021051934.BQAY25082.priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:19:34 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnaa04.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id B3E22923342107E1 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C714646B; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:19:33 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:19:35 -0000 My goal is to build a 2-disk server configured with gmirror and gjournal for maximum reliability. There will never be a second operating system on the system, but I prefer not to freak out any non-FreeBSD repair tools that might be used, so I will use compatibility instead of dangerously dedicated mode. This means I need one slice, but see no reason for more. Inside that one slice will be the usual array of partitions (ie. /, swap, /var, /tmp, /usr, /data). Now, I think gmirror allows me to mirror the entire drive rather than forcing me to do per-slice or even per-partition mirroring. I'm looking for the simplest in-field replacement procedure when one of the drives dies and I imagine a whole drive mirror achieves this. Am I right? gjournal, OTOH, has me really confused. The man page for gjournal(8) specifically does not recommend that small partitions be journaled. I assume that's because the journal provider rivals the partition in size and is therefore overhead heavy. It seems to me, though, that if I can journal the slice as a whole instead of per-partition journaling, that there will essentially then be only one journal provider for the combination of all partitions (ie. slice) and that the aforementioned overhead becomes minor. Having smaller partitions included in journaling seems like a good thing to me. So how do I achieve per-slice journaling instead of per-partition? Every time I read up on someone else's gjournal implementation, it seems to end with adding .journal entries to /etc/fstab. Am I trying to achieve the impossible or ill-advised here? Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 05:26:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1891065671 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from viefep18-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DD68FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from edge05.upc.biz ([192.168.13.212]) by viefep17-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081021052629.GCEN622.viefep17-int.chello.at@edge05.upc.biz>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:26:29 +0200 Received: from [192.168.2.175] ([89.134.231.52]) by edge05.upc.biz with edge id VHST1a01x18VCLh05HSUwL; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:26:29 +0200 X-SourceIP: 89.134.231.52 Message-ID: <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:26:27 +0200 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:26:31 -0000 > So how do I achieve per-slice journaling instead of per-partition? The docs only says this: "gjournal only supports UFS2". It does not specifically say that you cannot have per-slice journaling. However, since you could have other filesystems on your slice, I bet that slice based journaling is not supported. Consider this: how would you journal an NTFS file system (and then boot windows after an unclean shutdown?) Another tricky question: why would you journal a SWAP partition? Best, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 06:53:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9241065674 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAECE8FC20 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1971863rvf.43 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8ufB06ucNDjtZslu+QXT2uruxLdlekxCHx+R0ggAGcs=; b=dwVzUsONZI1YssQWS53PUdE/NjiiOGzq/80d38qEjts2vWnVfcB947ttJZujXNcBju oq87D2+hy4qIrnU6pAf5Ah3LdsMF3lZ3/tIfEtCE1LWdL11anB/FMrjKcLVPemGdue48 PHLUJNKmNw+Su3FCKPQXRD/Pz/mG1LCSBE00c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=oIUP7fFfgFnYeCU8cFpB8mUaVzepgCkiYLvuZ05rZ6Sn5KQ0labzabqfyexkxsfPFG RJ3rfqItVyL5qkWJBSnvhJzvK6EJ1No8jGEMZms769FyddNdbWJ8Caey3/Wffbkbhg2W U5KyzVmmvhUIDNIuNrXe4lkaj1Ab1EfovJrP4= Received: by 10.142.125.9 with SMTP id x9mr3547206wfc.123.1224571993245; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810202353p1ec5c17die870808026851dba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:53:13 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:53:14 -0000 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the >> directories and files >> so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months >> but >> after that >> at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. >> > > if it could work for 2 months and then refused - something must have been > changed on the client software side. No Mr. Puchar nothing changed on the client side. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 06:54:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C391065679 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADBC8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsB8l-00037s-4j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:51 +0000 Received: from 85.48.193.152 ([85.48.193.152]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:51 +0000 Received: from matiassurdi by 85.48.193.152 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matias Surdi Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:54:40 +0200 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <48FD7CB0.1070504@gmail.com> References: <139b44430810200313s7b005a38qc5d2e9b6d9a8a52d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.48.193.152 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) In-Reply-To: <139b44430810200313s7b005a38qc5d2e9b6d9a8a52d@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: custom freebsd cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:56 -0000 Maybe you find usefull some of the scripts I'm using in my project, check under the "development" link: http://openmailserver.org Also, you will find very usefull the manpages for: ports, release and sysinstall. Regards. Valentin Bud escribió: > Hello list, > I have a FBSD box that runs as a web/mail server to provide access to > a web based application. I want to build a custom FBSD 7.0 installation > disk. > By custom I mean: > 1. automatic disk partition based on a scheme i provide. > 2. automatic installation of the needed packages as well as the config > files. I plan to > update the packages which i might keep on a ftp server on remake the > installation disk > anytime i make package updates. > 3. automatic "installation" of all the php/html/perl/sh scripts needed to > run the application. > Basically i want a disk that you put it in the cdrom and installs the > system, packages and all > the necessary scripts to run the application. More than that a modified > kernel to allow pf, as well > as the pf configuration file. The installation will always be on the same > hardware in case of failure. > > So can you please give me hints as well as opinions how should i start > this. What alternatives should i consider? > > thank you, > v > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 07:10:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5521065679 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E8D8FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsBNS-0003iR-JQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:02 +0000 Received: from p54b26871.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.178.104.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:02 +0000 Received: from usselmann.m by p54b26871.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Manfred Usselmann Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:43:00 +0200 Organization: ICG IT Consulting GmbH Lines: 19 Message-ID: <20081021084300.2495a8f3.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b26871.dip.t-dialin.net X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Sender: news Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:08 -0000 On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:03 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open > > on the directories and files > > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 > > months but after that > > at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba > > server. > > if it could work for 2 months and then refused - something must have > been changed on the client software side. Yes, something must have changed. Most likely the problem had nothing to do with FreeBSD against Linux. I appears that the fresh setup fixed it. -- Manfred Usselmann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 07:16:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8FE1065672 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC7E8FC16 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2165661wfg.7 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Hq6RcBCFCuvzV08yioyeDiwp8h2rXWlOCzKHnNuV2f4=; b=X/p6IT5o1mgJGfFWHkeedp4rstFyQ3iRmtQLUJtz45opneXeocLcr2A7wGDy/gNqX5 uI2wqmpb59Iok9GgdS2yk0z/hUstOL1m3uo6VAVHyfkxLaDEol+VfqW7j9RMVwX0IAcg VGeu4P9dh+ZnbyAhSCidro0aQZINrg1aSNlB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LFgK95k/HMcpsD/tNSq4UpNSIQ+qUlFh5hhDkJ6xIUcbb9eSB2an6ceKJW8SlfvIPh gi/H1qWEx8me42hrnrCjR8JUiGFvy+B4IxGLfhkNHITMPZ5TPd8csF8NWXkaX08mHUcK wewkjSPNMKr9yEMzT2O5lp1QBbrJ6vWPfymvM= Received: by 10.142.140.14 with SMTP id n14mr3554136wfd.164.1224573381354; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810210016v920449j129790dc68a7df97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:16:21 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Manfred Usselmann" In-Reply-To: <20081021084300.2495a8f3.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081021084300.2495a8f3.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:16:22 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Manfred Usselmann < usselmann.m@icg-online.de> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:03 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open > > > on the directories and files > > > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 > > > months but after that > > > at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba > > > server. > > > > if it could work for 2 months and then refused - something must have > > been changed on the client software side. > > Yes, something must have changed. Most likely the problem had nothing > to do with FreeBSD against Linux. I appears that the fresh setup fixed > it. > I have never said that it has something to do with FBSB. And unfortunately i didn't had the time to debug it to find out the problem. I would like to know what happened there. The good thing is that a future client of my company works with the same accounting software and the server runs FBSD so if something goes wrong i'll have the time to debug properly. all the best, v > > -- > Manfred Usselmann > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 07:45:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16F106569C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FF58FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9L7j00r038236; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:45:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9L7j00r038236 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224575112; bh=OZnEfHfMqGb2uf jsWwXZZ640IwKA/7PWU2Tr+eSMFLs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 021=20Oct=202008=2008:44:54=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20John=20Almberg=20|CC:=20freebsd-ques tions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20mysql=20connection=20through=20s sl=20tunnel|References:=20<8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@ide ntry.com>=09<48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk>=09<912A74FB-0292-4A53-B 480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com>=09<20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home .lan>=20<007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com>|In-Reply -To:=20<007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com>|X-Enigmai l-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3D pgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D= 0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigA550958C8AD7EC3325AB56A6"; b=1gzgZ RiAZeiGxziACUMWbJJCkknzXq6ZRistHuCO4nW0eVEQhetCjYVrBiOluKMalgzO/a8K O6N+Y1NaBNoaVbUVXv9TMYAond4uFzzw28c/IqwMrOk5kRz3USBuQ78K4GmXno6pHnK VY3JAnESlyFJB6Eztr/xvCHfNRkfdVC8= Message-ID: <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:44:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA550958C8AD7EC3325AB56A6" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:45:12 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8457/Tue Oct 21 04:05:55 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:45:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA550958C8AD7EC3325AB56A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Almberg wrote: > I do know that Mysql supports SSL... somehow this got discounted early = > in the discussion, perhaps mistakenly? I believe the thinking was that although MySQL claims to support SSL, it does in fact make a pretty bodge of it, and a more effective approach = is to pipe MySQL traffic through an encrypted tunnel. Personally I just use IPSec for this, but people might also like to consider stunnel (http://www.stunnel.org/) or OpenVPN=20 (http://openvpn.net/) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA550958C8AD7EC3325AB56A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkj9iHwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxcSwCdGhr95bT7u9SuZRPacTu7pWSC u28An2JdfsVsBMLvQL/h4oAtZo+YoHLB =KbZR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA550958C8AD7EC3325AB56A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 07:52:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5446D1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB7F8FC22 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9L7qqwo038558; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:52:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9L7qqwo038558 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224575573; bh=8eukW7E7CgMWjY 1AlPBP9RPh9oorCZZPiajd0IUjvVc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48FD8A54.4010603@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 021=20Oct=202008=2008:52:52=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20David=20Karapetyan=20|CC:=20fr eebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Apache=20aliased=20dir ectory=20invisible|References:=20<20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hs d1.in.comcast.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.h sd1.in.comcast.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mu ltipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appl ication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigCE118 F23A8C072F64A6D13FD"; b=o2+NRgSuT0iHKKiY4Nn6eoq3FIugKeF75bRoSQHT8Cw yDC03f0m9eVV3zrh5izck3eEmE7bLl5aX01KJYaYtqkioXATVufzQGWKMuZW9GjinIq eklm2ap5fH0aawFZGmrNnhw/mIjqbx44wJK8P2CC4Zq9Vmuie7it8sHgs+mYE= Message-ID: <48FD8A54.4010603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:52:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Karapetyan References: <20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hsd1.in.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hsd1.in.comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCE118F23A8C072F64A6D13FD" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:52:53 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8457/Tue Oct 21 04:05:55 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache aliased directory invisible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:52:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCE118F23A8C072F64A6D13FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Karapetyan wrote: > FreeBSD office19.resnet.nd.edu 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0= :=20 > Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 =20 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >=20 > Hello all. I would like to make aliased directories in apache visible=20 > from the directory root. An example: When I visit http://myserver.com/,= =20 > I would like to see the 'icons' folder (suppose that in my document roo= t=20 > I have directories 'bobo' and 'gogo', but that /icons is actually an=20 > alias for /usr/local/share/icons). Bobo and gogo show up in the=20 > directoroy listing when I access http://myserver.com, but not /icons. = > How can I remedy this? >=20 Options Indexes for the icons area? Create a stub directory "icons" under your web-root? Don't use Aliases within apache, but create symlinks instead and tell Apache to FollowSymLinks? One or other of those should work... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigCE118F23A8C072F64A6D13FD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkj9ilQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzLFACfVA8hti43kIzT/KQrCBPiq8b+ //YAn1WUTIMPAsHhF+5hwpNz1KyICVpm =yHK4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCE118F23A8C072F64A6D13FD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 07:53:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF31106567B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1596C8FC22 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <48FD8A90.5080007@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:53:52 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080927) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: need help with disklabel, "expected rawoffset 0, found 32" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:53:57 -0000 Hi, I think sysinstall? got it wrong here and I get the complaint in the subject line on boot. This is amd64 if that matters. Nothing edited by hand. I must admit I don't fully understand what is going on here, "found 32" but the offsets are 63... Filesystem on LSI controller amr(4): # /dev/amrd0s1a: type: ESDI disk: amrd0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 65535 sectors/unit: 2929674240 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 4194304 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 b: 8388608 4194367 swap c: 2929661532 63 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 31457280 12582975 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 2097152 44040255 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 46137407 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 2841581148 88080447 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities Filesystem on SmartArray controller ciss(4): # /dev/da0s1d: type: SCSI disk: da0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 53544 sectors/unit: 860192344 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 860184297 63 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 860184297 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 08:09:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538151065681 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulka@man.poznan.pl) Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38E08FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulka@man.poznan.pl) X-Virus-Scanned: by PSNC antivirus scanner at man.poznan.pl Received: from calycanthus-baby.man.poznan.pl (platinum.man.poznan.pl [150.254.160.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/auth/ldap/milter/tls) with ESMTP id m9L891Cq007083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:09:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FD8E1B.4050808@man.poznan.pl> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:08:59 +0200 From: Michal Kulczewski Organization: PSNC User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20080302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 OpenPGP: id=BFA9832E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wpa_supplicant wired X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:09:13 -0000 Hi folks, can anyone manage to have wired driver enabled in wpa_supplicant? How to do this? I'm playing with wpa_supplicant and hostapd sources for a while but without any significant progress. Cheers, Michal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 08:19:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55799106566C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027598FC22 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081021081931.ZKEF18931.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:19:31 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 81270726343C87A9; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DD3646B; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FD9091.8000809@telus.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:19:29 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Laszlo Nagy Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:19:32 -0000 Laszlo Nagy wrote: >> So how do I achieve per-slice journaling instead of per-partition? > The docs only says this: "gjournal only supports UFS2". It does not > specifically say that you cannot have per-slice journaling. However, > since you could have other filesystems on your slice, I bet that slice > based journaling is not supported. I thought I read somewhere that because gjournal is block based and not really part of the filesystem, that it could easily be extended for any other filesystem. My imagination said that gjournal was probably therefore only temporarily limited to a slice full of UFS partitions. Anyone know for sure? > Another tricky question: why would you journal a SWAP partition? Well, I don't really want to, but how big does a partition like /var have to be before it's no longer ill-advised to journal it individually? A fair bit of writing can occur in /var and the scenario my server will occupy has me concerned about inglorious shutdowns. What are the actual reasons for why journaling a small partition is considered a bad idea? Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 08:27:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E0410656A2 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulka@man.poznan.pl) Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B18FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kulka@man.poznan.pl) X-Virus-Scanned: by PSNC antivirus scanner at man.poznan.pl Received: from calycanthus-baby.man.poznan.pl (platinum.man.poznan.pl [150.254.160.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/auth/ldap/milter/tls) with ESMTP id m9L8R0BP013994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:27:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FD9252.5040705@man.poznan.pl> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:26:58 +0200 From: Michal Kulczewski Organization: PSNC User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20080302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <48FD8E1B.4050808@man.poznan.pl> <3a142e750810210113v2004694ar6a613d4da8729f7a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750810210113v2004694ar6a613d4da8729f7a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 OpenPGP: id=BFA9832E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wpa_supplicant wired X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:27:13 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 10/21/08, Michal Kulczewski wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> can anyone manage to have wired driver enabled in wpa_supplicant? How to >> do this? I'm playing with wpa_supplicant and hostapd sources for a while >> but without any significant progress. >> > What FreeBSD vesion? On CURRENT and 7.0=> it is enabled by default, on > older I think you need to rebuild it yourself. > > Enabling wired driver in wpa_supplicant is straightforward. well, it's not, at least not for me. I'm running 7.0, wpa_supplicant tells me that wired driver is not supported (BSD and NDIS are the only correct values). -- Michal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 08:40:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD561065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3A78FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so909492hsz.11 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:40:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DR2KKk7jUdakvRF8SVcnH2T6aq1SCevKhWL45nLsV/0=; b=En+6mxK6Ub5p1a1VwJafUPXbQxn5eUolu9NQsr8Pidh/bX6m/ld8ALJgWxsW4w8gQ0 mruqiaTc49uKF3BS163zf08Q1cSWYKtF+adRcAlEYJNLvl0JZDdTUa50EXIeY8dLcNpv 3vFNQFMaH33x/3AkoxStIN7EVBUDkwX6+DNOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VXYwZtPuHdB8NItbhu9ESznOfTMZb5aNQ5tYIgWGSDv0ddTIX4qu19KtwpfuOSXa0+ PYGOfP4pmp7ypvpuOtzK9+32KpcPopw2fbnLKwRhIPHv2esnWohjyZRfgOcxCkQlScJG ztKAhKi+3zn8lZw7IfA2Hx1rshha/QGpxrMHU= Received: by 10.231.10.140 with SMTP id p12mr4720713ibp.27.1224576827173; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.17.68 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a142e750810210113v2004694ar6a613d4da8729f7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:13:47 +0200 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Michal Kulczewski" In-Reply-To: <48FD8E1B.4050808@man.poznan.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48FD8E1B.4050808@man.poznan.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wpa_supplicant wired X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:11 -0000 On 10/21/08, Michal Kulczewski wrote: > Hi folks, > > can anyone manage to have wired driver enabled in wpa_supplicant? How to > do this? I'm playing with wpa_supplicant and hostapd sources for a while > but without any significant progress. > What FreeBSD vesion? On CURRENT and 7.0=> it is enabled by default, on older I think you need to rebuild it yourself. Enabling wired driver in wpa_supplicant is straightforward. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 08:48:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD011065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61C08FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so910000hsz.11 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:48:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Iun/ipXeULhASFYtkO9h1oXVhuSVZDGW4LOYTdxpJoQ=; b=lTEAK+KBoBCsVuZhCRIc4s+LyDqN7ApEF7qsFZ+YQlnUlDi6j96AmCABZOjD83gx39 GGU6//NfIoMZFQ0P5jbpj+X7j47DOPxYJ6o5zGEZF6VgO5fXR5D9ZT6uJDVIR3/bx6fB BxNgHFFIHFj5J2LbDnve3cV5T9vVAHn3UWjmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wM1BPIE4L8r0EfYrCkgfvYr2oL/UtGatzIGa1HNAbt6taGavRW4OJZIJO4XZV64LuV kOFtgpyMLkJ3XEYkK/e1m/YDPmQreqhseteKF5fP9UA30WZfMYNICsLxSUgBV3EaJpmW FszZkCCjF0CSPbwuEiebNRrKri6r/xytn6GNo= Received: by 10.231.10.140 with SMTP id p12mr1781830ibp.36.1224578901993; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.17.68 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a142e750810210148l78720b7eoa5e56236980fcf45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:48:21 +0200 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Michal Kulczewski" In-Reply-To: <48FD9252.5040705@man.poznan.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48FD8E1B.4050808@man.poznan.pl> <3a142e750810210113v2004694ar6a613d4da8729f7a@mail.gmail.com> <48FD9252.5040705@man.poznan.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wpa_supplicant wired X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:48:24 -0000 On 10/21/08, Michal Kulczewski wrote: > Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 10/21/08, Michal Kulczewski wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> can anyone manage to have wired driver enabled in wpa_supplicant? How to >>> do this? I'm playing with wpa_supplicant and hostapd sources for a while >>> but without any significant progress. >>> >> What FreeBSD vesion? On CURRENT and 7.0=> it is enabled by default, on "=>" should be just ">" >> older I think you need to rebuild it yourself. >> >> Enabling wired driver in wpa_supplicant is straightforward. > > well, it's not, at least not for me. I'm running 7.0, wpa_supplicant > tells me that wired driver is not supported (BSD and NDIS are the only > correct values). Yes, 7.0 RELEASE do not have it. Here is patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/wpa/wpa_supplicant/Makefile.diff?r1=1.11.2.2;r2=1.11.2.3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 09:37:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1821065672 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C4E8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsDg8-0001TX-32 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:37:28 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:37:28 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:37:28 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:37:19 +0300 Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081001 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:37:31 -0000 Carl wrote: > My goal is to build a 2-disk server configured with gmirror and gjournal > for maximum reliability. There will never be a second operating system > on the system, but I prefer not to freak out any non-FreeBSD repair > tools that might be used, so I will use compatibility instead of > dangerously dedicated mode. This means I need one slice, but see no > reason for more. Inside that one slice will be the usual array of > partitions (ie. /, swap, /var, /tmp, /usr, /data). > > Now, I think gmirror allows me to mirror the entire drive rather than > forcing me to do per-slice or even per-partition mirroring. I'm looking > for the simplest in-field replacement procedure when one of the drives > dies and I imagine a whole drive mirror achieves this. Am I right? > > gjournal, OTOH, has me really confused. The man page for gjournal(8) > specifically does not recommend that small partitions be journaled. I > assume that's because the journal provider rivals the partition in size > and is therefore overhead heavy. It seems to me, though, that if I can > journal the slice as a whole instead of per-partition journaling, that > there will essentially then be only one journal provider for the > combination of all partitions (ie. slice) and that the aforementioned > overhead becomes minor. Having smaller partitions included in journaling > seems like a good thing to me. So how do I achieve per-slice journaling > instead of per-partition? Every time I read up on someone else's > gjournal implementation, it seems to end with adding .journal > entries to /etc/fstab. Am I trying to achieve the impossible or > ill-advised here? I have some setups were gjournal was put on device rather the on partition, i.e.: [umgah] ~> gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/umgah0 COMPLETE ad0 ad1 [umgah] ~> gjournal status Name Status Components mirror/umgah0.journal N/A mirror/umgah0 [umgah] ~> glabel status Name Status Components ufs/umgah0root N/A mirror/umgah0.journala label/umgah0swap N/A mirror/umgah0.journalb ufs/umgah0usr N/A mirror/umgah0.journald ufs/umgah0var N/A mirror/umgah0.journale [umgah] ~> mount /dev/ufs/umgah0root on / (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/md0 on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local) /dev/ufs/umgah0var on /var (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) /dev/ufs/umgah0usr on /usr (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) And yes, mirror autosynchronization is turned off, gjournal takes care of that too. It's not stated in manual, but gjournal is typically transparent for any type of access, just in case of UFS file system is marked as journaled so any metadata writes can be distinguished from data writes. Without that gjournal does literally nothing. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 09:39:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63536106567C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1888FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9L9cv9W031685; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:38:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9L9cuFu031682; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:38:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:38:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430810202353p1ec5c17die870808026851dba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081021113824.M31659@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <139b44430810202353p1ec5c17die870808026851dba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, charlie@cpsoftware.com Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:39:12 -0000 >> if it could work for 2 months and then refused - something must have been >> changed on the client software side. > > No Mr. Puchar nothing changed on the client side. so what changed on server side so it stopped working after 2 months? in unix there are no "magic things" - things works or not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 11:07:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8741065672 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4208FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9LB7UW4028032; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:07:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20081021060221.0257aff0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:07:15 -0500 To: David Karapetyan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hsd1.in.comcast.net> References: <20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hsd1.in.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081020-0, 10/20/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94-exp/8458/Tue Oct 21 03:39:47 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m9LB7UW4028032 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Apache aliased directory invisible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:07:33 -0000 At 10:16 PM 10/20/2008, David Karapetyan wrote: >FreeBSD office19.resnet.nd.edu 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: >Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 >root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > >Hello all. I would like to make aliased directories in apache visible >from the directory root. An example: When I visit http://myserver.com/, >I would like to see the 'icons' folder (suppose that in my document root >I have directories 'bobo' and 'gogo', but that /icons is actually an >alias for /usr/local/share/icons). Bobo and gogo show up in the >directoroy listing when I access http://myserver.com, but not /icons. >How can I remedy this? add a symbolic link: ln -s /usr/local/share/icons [path to your doc root]/icons typically for apache22 this would be: ln -s /usr/local/share/icons /usr/local/www/apache22/data/icons -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 11:39:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC31065674 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (87-198-244-212.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.244.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A198FC34 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from SUNYA (sunya.wbt.wbtsystems.com [10.12.1.114]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 85D60F7410; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:22:01 +0100 (IST) From: "Barry Byrne" To: "'Derek Ragona'" , "'David Karapetyan'" , References: <20081021031603.GB45624@vagrant.hsd1.in.comcast.net> <6.0.0.22.2.20081021060221.0257aff0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:22:05 +0100 Message-ID: <23582B33F3AD4C5F84CFF64D6A00BB93@wbt.wbtsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20081021060221.0257aff0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Thread-Index: AckzbUpushz+QJ7OSIOYL3bxaAUBpwAAccMg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: Subject: RE: Apache aliased directory invisible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:39:59 -0000 > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Derek Ragona > Sent: 21 October 2008 12:07 > To: David Karapetyan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Apache aliased directory invisible > > At 10:16 PM 10/20/2008, David Karapetyan wrote: > >FreeBSD office19.resnet.nd.edu 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD > 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: > >Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 > >root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > >Hello all. I would like to make aliased directories in apache visible > >from the directory root. An example: When I visit > http://myserver.com/, > >I would like to see the 'icons' folder (suppose that in my > document root > >I have directories 'bobo' and 'gogo', but that /icons is actually an > >alias for /usr/local/share/icons). Bobo and gogo show up in the > >directoroy listing when I access http://myserver.com, but not /icons. > >How can I remedy this? > > add a symbolic link: > > ln -s /usr/local/share/icons [path to your doc root]/icons > > typically for apache22 this would be: > > ln -s /usr/local/share/icons /usr/local/www/apache22/data/icons > You may also want to check your apache config that the FollowSymLinks option is on. Something like: Options FollowSymLinks is in the appropriate place. Otherwise, Apache will ignore symbolic links. - barry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 11:58:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5D2106566B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokalanyi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ED28FC24 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokalanyi@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so4977930gxk.19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=+dcFiFWgoVRIwhu9giJ9WbF5/mkOeKHpgnLvIR6Ol4o=; b=KEnxJGeteGwVR+uRqleI5D4NDKiuovADjaTS86qd4fpyPkyEUbHM6rPge0bGAMOLv9 1d9SZMI83Xxb9fb+e9MKi9r78c7GxXpk7d+vYSH8fxWKk272JgVBCpbj6eQ810sxwBBg It/5dwe04PDsOF3RTyY9QlVjzeW7rg6xYXoJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=EHicb2l/27amsNLiBBk080TGWuZDEnF71odQKb/XY8hRdsRdCmMBdsEW4N609v7JgB QTL2141j0YO3OvWhHnDoP6ukkCJvDUh5O/0q4PclqKapAWjGHGN/OyICdEb32BGIEAIw v1+IwbRDHRX8I/6YiveJMD+DxWSt65cj2bdHw= Received: by 10.142.171.6 with SMTP id t6mr3680796wfe.229.1224589054209; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.2 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28f643d90810210437k761719e1s840c71c898588dc2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:37:34 +0300 From: "Okalany Daniel" Sender: dokalanyi@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a5e8effffa452847 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dialin Service X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:58:09 -0000 Good Afternoon all, I want to setup a dialin server at my work place so i can do a dialup to my work place wherever i am. I picked up an old modem card and put it in my freebsd system, together with a phone line. What do i need to do to make that happen? Freebsd doesn't seem to be detecting my modem properly, perhaps its unsupported? pciconf -lv shows: none0@pci0:1:11:0: class=0x078000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x40001813 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ambient Technologies Inc.' device = 'MD5628D-L-A intel V.92 HaM Modem' class = simple comms -- OKALANY DANIEL P.O BOX 26150 KAMPALA. http://okaman.one2net.co.ug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 12:36:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39379106566C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DFF8FC29 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KsGS4-0006Cv-HW; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <48FDCC7A.40604@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:35:06 -0600 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mv References: <648870.44443.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48FBE4FC.4090301@FreeBSD.org> <200810201639.34422.mrkvrg@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <200810201639.34422.mrkvrg@acm.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: Dino Vliet , alecn2002@yandex.ru, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error installing kmymoney2 on amd64 system running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:36:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 mv wrote: > Hello Greg, > > When I tried to upgrade kmymoney2 on my amd64 6.4-PRERELEASE using > portmaster I also received the same error message as Dino. However, > after I amended the Makefile as you had suggested portmaster worked as > it should. > > Just wanted to let you know that you seem to be on the right track. > > With thanks and regards, > > Marek > Hi Marek, Thanks for the confirmation. I plan to do some work on the port in the next day or two, as soon as I have some free time, and we'll get everything all dialed in as best as possible! Regards, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj9zHkACgkQ0sRouByUApCb5gCgnl+dZ6VPUPaFdhh8S3mzxdXS rY4AoI3JnND+qWrmNAaq31ulix3yCrF8 =ZOEl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 13:31:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B48106566B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEE88FC20 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m9LDV8Od096166 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:31:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B352189BE6 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id A859910A; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:31:07 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081021133107.GA5722@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8458/Tue Oct 21 10:39:47 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48FDD9AB.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48FDD9AB.003/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48FDD9AB.003 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.034 -> S=0.034 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: need help with disklabel, "expected rawoffset 0, found 32" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:31:48 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > I must admit I don't fully understand what is going on here ... The c partition should cover exactly the slice. For example, my ad0s1 is like that: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 81915372 (39997 Meg), flag 80 (active) Now let us look at the label on this slice: lilas# disklabel ad0s1 # /dev/ad0s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 b: 4126240 1048576 swap c: 81915372 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 4159488 5174816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 e: 72581068 9334304 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 You can see that the c) partition starts at offset 0 and has exactly the size 81915372 reported above. In your case you start at offset 63. Note that the first partition a) should start at offset 16 (see the "offset" entry in man bsdlabel) but this is not enforced in sysinstall. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 13:59:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7EF106567D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from mailout05.t-online.de (mailout05.t-online.de [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662788FC1D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johannes-maria@t-online.de) Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1KsHlE-0004nx-00; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:59:00 +0200 Received: from t-online.de (VOAWlcZTQhQd3N4nDBZ19G-f-7XPmiqGuJf4sKDlQ7zc3K-Lt9C-lDPS3ORF0MjQzr@[87.181.96.111]) by fwd02.t-online.de with esmtp id 1KsHkq-1dQ1Me0; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:58:36 +0200 Sender: jmk@t-online.de Message-ID: <48FDE1A4.5AB5F980@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:05:24 +0200 From: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48F9AD35.396CEE3E@t-online.de> <20081019111807.GA65941@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <48FC89F8.2DAD155@t-online.de> <20081020151326.GA10017@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: VOAWlcZTQhQd3N4nDBZ19G-f-7XPmiqGuJf4sKDlQ7zc3K-Lt9C-lDPS3ORF0MjQzr X-TOI-MSGID: 7252f870-f3ce-4d03-9e7f-89f7930cbba9 Cc: Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: johannes-maria@t-online.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:59:15 -0000 Hello, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:39:04PM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:32:37AM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > > > > ... > > > Are there any filesystems on these devices? Try 'file -s /dev/da*' and > > > post the results. > > > > my filesystems are mounted on /dev/ad0s...; > > > > $ file -s /dev/da* > > /dev/da1: writable, no read permission > > /dev/da2: writable, no read permission > > /dev/da3: writable, no read permission > > /dev/da4: writable, no read permission > > Aha! you have a permissions problem. Try running the following commands > as root, with the device plugged in: > > chown root:wheel /dev/da* > chmod 660 /dev/da* this doesn't solve the problem: # ls -l /dev/da* crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 128 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da0 crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 129 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da2 crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 130 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da3 crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 131 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da4 but the output of file -s /dev/da* ist still as above: # file -s /dev/da* /dev/da0: writable, no read permission /dev/da2: writable, no read permission /dev/da3: writable, no read permission /dev/da4: writable, no read permission (and the same if I chmod to 666) Trying to mount the mp3 player to one of these /dev/da#-files yields mount: /dev/da#: Device not configured (the same after the camcontrol comands proposed by Frank Shute in his reply.) [btw: now there is a /dev/da0 again, but no /dev/da1, last time I had no /dev/da0 but a /dev/da1, an so on; I've not yet found out under what condition a given /dev/da# is created at boot time. If I connect a usb memory stick then there appears automatically a /dev/da#s#, some examples: /dev/da1s1, /dev/da4s1, /dev/da0s1, /dev/da6s1 etc. The mounting of the memory stick to these dev-files is no problem; I've only problems with th usb mp3 player.] > These permissions will last until you remove the device. Now you can try > mounting the devices. (try file -s first, to see what kind of > filesystems are on there!) > > To be able to mount USB disks as a regular user instead of root or to > make the permissions permanent, there are several things that need to be > done, especially editing the /etc/devfs.rules configuration file. These > are explained (among other things) on my FreeBSD page (especially the > devfs section): http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html > > Read this page and see if you can apply it. Don't hesitate to ask (me or > the mailing list) if you have questions. it's sufficient to mount as root but at the moment I'm not able to mount at all > Good luck! Thanks Johannes-Maria From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 15:33:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538F01065673 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FCC8FC27 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9LFXBqv028687 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:33:12 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:33:32 -0400 Message-Id: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error with kernel PAE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:33:14 -0000 Trying to build my own kernel with PAE option and getting the following error... /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c: In function 'adv_action': /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c:259: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size *** Error code 1 I removed the PAE option keeping my SMP option in the kernel configuration for this dual proc server and it builds fine. Any idea what I can do for this error? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 15:45:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104801065671 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D5D8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9LFgRM4043312; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:42:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9LFgRui043311; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:42:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:42:27 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: <20081021154227.GE43091@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <48FD8A90.5080007@intersonic.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FD8A90.5080007@intersonic.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help with disklabel, "expected rawoffset 0, found 32" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:45:10 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:53:52AM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Hi, > > I think sysinstall? got it wrong here and I get the complaint in the > subject line on boot. This is amd64 if that matters. Nothing edited by hand. > > I must admit I don't fully understand what is going on here, "found 32" > but the offsets are 63... > > Filesystem on LSI controller amr(4): > > # /dev/amrd0s1a: > type: ESDI > disk: amrd0s1 > label: > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > cylinders: 65535 > sectors/unit: 2929674240 > rpm: 3600 > interleave: 1 > trackskew: 0 > cylinderskew: 0 > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > drivedata: 0 > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 4194304 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > b: 8388608 4194367 swap > c: 2929661532 63 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, > don't edit > d: 31457280 12582975 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > e: 2097152 44040255 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > f: 41943040 46137407 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > g: 2841581148 88080447 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard > system utilities I do not know what is causing this, but I think the offset of the 'c' partition (and the first real partition (a in this case)) should be 0 I have seen this a couple of times a long time ago and don't remember what happened other than I think I just arbitrarily set those offsets to 0 and it worked. Can you try booting up the fixit shell and hitting the disk with a manual fdisk and bsdlabel to see what happens. Also, you might try doing the dd(1) thing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/amrd0 bs=512 count=1000 before the fdisk and then another one after creating the slices manually dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/amrd0s1 bs=512 count=1000 Note, that count value is arbitrary. That should clean up any junk on the drive. Also, I haven't seen/dealt with a disk device called amrd0 before. It appears to be something from one of the raid setups? So, maybe doing the dd thing might mangle that although, once it is a device, it should work the same as a drive. I ain't rich enough to have one of those raids to play with, though, so if someone else says otherwise, believe them. ////jerry > > > Filesystem on SmartArray controller ciss(4): > > # /dev/da0s1d: > type: SCSI > disk: da0s1 > label: > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 63 > tracks/cylinder: 255 > sectors/cylinder: 16065 > cylinders: 53544 > sectors/unit: 860192344 > rpm: 3600 > interleave: 1 > trackskew: 0 > cylinderskew: 0 > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > drivedata: 0 > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > c: 860184297 63 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, > don't edit > d: 860184297 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard > system utilities > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 15:46:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B0810656A1 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088938FC29 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so5389978gxk.19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:46:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=OGAvf3UgnB3VuWDRrmkxBzTr6nN16WSRQ1ub9SYT/sM=; b=AaAJtSsBvk+EHIAE+LrRUGyvAJDzQ9ApOj3gc6KvR8m6qJ5li28EOJTX3owEmfDG1v FrPM7xDmiY6iwj170pBfIYmtkq8Go/Ao3/GS0XRUQ0Rq+5IyxtONWFSzlr7dBcUa1W6Q IGF1wMrlfjMaD/txZTPsRnqz9Wvse72HKF3Wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HaL3FVAvhh/JypfihopTasGE3C3REb/AVM3rh7p+/R8QhLq/c68sLNCcNKaXSqyMw1 qFkLis34I8ErXRksA0WvCnhuRoXTjXlZ3Dvo1xCe8Gh04Y9VLBix6aMChR7uS3nXSc6V j56vQSkzQott2jLi1+wcHErhM4LXLMWh3XvIY= Received: by 10.142.125.9 with SMTP id x9mr3827624wfc.66.1224604004106; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.148.15 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b93bd110810210846k11a227b4j6d31d307b1aca76b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:46:44 -0500 From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: PF Failover X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:46:46 -0000 Hi: Does someone have a document where explain how to use PF with two link failover? (I want to have redundancy if one internet conection fails use the other). i use FreeBSD 7 Release i386. I have looked at google but i only got CARP for firewall redundancy. I want to make something similar to the pfsense failover. -- mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 15:50:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480841065679 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92C38FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1737727fgb.35 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:50:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RbROSmHlUYWSVCwazoxV1VSZOjtag+L9S/r/5dCw+T0=; b=RKI/HBBKvLCiUS31clHyBBsB478xrQk9qEE4LazkuKCzbt/voHHGTvykbtDDR0CSbC lKshSQlNGOeSX6mLaZblRHJxW73/jfRvHo733mglm/FWFYG3vf4NIgUaKfV7chXbWR99 3kd4hGdYnbSZeA/Ky97nK5UQofnEUF6iFIMEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wG7t+jP0pn8ArVhnblTx0ksPX7L3lAfe6peMA66BnmzyKo/8F8zF4BhkGXZzQQ76Ne StuSJzXs7OxncP03fKx+P5YRKDpZbObPo6KkLYmCAxhSN0B6gPRV6lDf7e8os2sjRWtn Qt9sEKFjCLC4QTqNdU6UNJzMwBUVDtZ8J1VA0= Received: by 10.181.224.3 with SMTP id b3mr1198366bkr.183.1224603795900; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-288578.home.otenet.gr [85.73.174.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm16969239fks.6.2008.10.21.08.43.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FDF890.6080600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:43:12 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Error with kernel PAE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:50:07 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Trying to build my own kernel with PAE option and getting the following > error... > > /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c: In function 'adv_action': > /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c:259: warning: cast from pointer to > integer of different size > *** Error code 1 > > I removed the PAE option keeping my SMP option in the kernel > configuration for this dual proc server and it builds fine. Any idea > what I can do for this error? > > Have a look at: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/PAE Is the device that is causing the problem listed with a "nodevice" entry? I guess in your case, it is the "adv" device, and it is listed. This means it does not work with a PAE kernel. How about going with the 64bit version of FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 15:24:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8906106566B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajphanks@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7357E8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajphanks@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VNZB1a0080mv7h055TQRe9; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:24:25 +0000 Received: from sz0027.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.75]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VTPh1a00p1dP82L3XTPhU0; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:23:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=10SHvqaCvoUA:10 a=svVtg53j9BwA:10 a=-3mc0CkCyd6tCcAT6EgA:9 a=NvKU8pTfvPLXi5mgmIMA:7 a=fg1QUOFBfQ6MGaR81i_ZS70Y05sA:4 a=OyOq_G8mXAEA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:24:25 +0000 (UTC) From: ajphanks@comcast.net To: Warren Block Message-ID: <616535476.544901224602665091.JavaMail.root@sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1383331831.542531224602056248.JavaMail.root@sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [149.128.8.243] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE6 (Win)/5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:05:24 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing to a Lanier LD160c does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:24:27 -0000 ----- "Warren Block" wrote:=20 > On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, ajphanks@comcast.net wrote:=20 > > I have tried the reccomendations that you guys have suggested with no l= uck.=20 > > Here is my current printcap.=20 > > admincolor|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/admi= ncolor:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dadmincolor:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :if=3D/usr/local/libexec/crf= ilter:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\=20 > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :tr=3D\f:=20 > Please trim your responses and don't top-post, as it makes responding to= =20 > your messages difficult.=20 > The printcap still has no :rp=3Dlp: line. =C2=A0HP printers aren't picky = about=20 > that, but other brands sometimes are.=20 > You've also added a filter and kept the multiple printer names. =C2=A0Thi= ngs=20 > like that make more complexity to debug. =C2=A0Wait until you have basic= =20 > communication working. =C2=A0The exact suggested printcap entry:=20 > admincolor:\=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D:\=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:\=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dadmincolor:\= =20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:rp=3Dlp:\=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/o= utput/admincolor:\=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd= -errs:=20 > Note: one printer name (who needs more than one, really?). =C2=A0rm=3D an= d rp=3D=20 > entries. =C2=A0No filter; I think that printer can handle PostScript and = PCL.=20 > Put that printcap entry in /etc/printcap, then send a PostScript test to= =20 > the printer (all one line):=20 > printf "%%\!PS\n/Courier findfont 20 scalefont setfont 72 72 moveto (Test= !) show showpage\f" | lpr -P admincolor=20 > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA=20 I took your block above and replaced my block in the printcap, then sent th= e exact command above with the same failure. The queue is drained and the p= rinter's log has a generic message "The job was reset." message.=C2=A0=20 My current printcap file.=20 corp-admin|hp|laserjet|Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5Si:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/corp-adm= in:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dcorp-admin:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :if=3D/usr/local/libexec/crlfilt= er:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :tr=3D\f:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:=20 admincolor:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dadmincolor:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rp=3Dlp:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/admincol= or:\=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:=20 Queue status after print job is sent. #=C2=A0lpc status all=20 corp-admin:=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 queuing is enabled=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 printing is enabled=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 no entries in spool area=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 printer idle=20 admincolor:=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 queuing is enabled=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 printing is enabled=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 no entries in spool area=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 printer idle=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 16:43:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8D0106569D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B4F8FC27 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9LGhfv3015301; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:43:41 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <48FDF890.6080600@gmail.com> References: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <48FDF890.6080600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:44:02 -0400 Message-Id: <1224607442.8122.29.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Error with kernel PAE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:43:43 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:43 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Trying to build my own kernel with PAE option and getting the following > > error... > > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c: In function 'adv_action': > > /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c:259: warning: cast from pointer to > > integer of different size > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I removed the PAE option keeping my SMP option in the kernel > > configuration for this dual proc server and it builds fine. Any idea > > what I can do for this error? > > > > > Have a look at: > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/PAE > > Is the device that is causing the problem listed with a "nodevice" entry? > I guess in your case, it is the "adv" device, and it is listed. This > means it does not work with a PAE kernel. Thanks, yes, I have nodevice in the PAE file for adv. What does this mean and/or how can I address this problem? Should I just remove the entry from the PAE file? > > How about going with the 64bit version of FreeBSD? That was my first try, but the CPU appears not to support amd64 as there are no AMD Features listed in dmesg. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 16:44:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4B71065679 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D968FC35 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so160771ana.13 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:44:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=aBe8r86ZaqZ1abOmYjcWX/44zGLRogGa/5uXWylnQaE=; b=WLkU4TAvfxFRmSakBsLHfxK6caUpP7g60EpAlwfMExShLNEHbj5oUZgTm5BKPMGKfz /QBqdJL1HSvkAhR+HBr5A2Z8/pgv0y1HTLlliig5amvn6aHlBp4/YD+8i5xU8mBUEe2N F2SsoeIMGaO2T+rnRTsFPfHkMpisczpJS8ebU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ExR+J+Wcp5vDNvOx9Zt+zsL/IHSfWdQF9fCn+3/YWqXxvQsI4PQm8/RaE5b7x8nmY8 +hxb1fTep5A+4AmsFzJL7OLeeDGp9YNwodz5EWT1ZoS+2pwZIQbTMSzVGp3lGjqNetzF FRXLmGn6p0pqyoH0EgQ3w0+/15My1IAHHge4w= Received: by 10.142.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr3833171wff.192.1224605923819; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.234.21 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60810210918xbd221c3q5a0926df66b2aa6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:18:43 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Maxim Khitrov , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:44:05 -0000 You might want to talk to the author of this: http://www.bsdcan.org/2007/schedule/events/6.en.html "Reflections on Building a High-performance Computing Cluster Using FreeBSD" by Brooks Davis. Regards, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 If you receive something that says "Send this to everyone you know", then please pretend you don't know me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 16:46:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525EF106569A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF218FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KsKNN-0004x7-Mc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:46:38 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KsKNM-0002nV-Jx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:46:33 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9LGkWAA064802 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:46:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9LGkVYV064801 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:46:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:46:31 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081021164631.GA64779@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: installworld fails -> err code 71 -> too many levels of symbolic links X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:46:39 -0000 (also posted to freebsd-current) I'm rebuilding the world on i386 FBSD 8.0-currnet following the manual. I cvsup'ed the source on 20-OCT-2008, made buildworld, built kernel, installed kernel, rebooted into single user mode, and tried to installworld. I got: install: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: Too many levels of symbolic links *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/srs/share/timedef. *** Error code 1 What am I doing wrong? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 16:49:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3FF106566C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cbaillie@shineracoustics.com) Received: from outbound-mail-152.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-152.bluehost.com [67.222.39.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0C978FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cbaillie@shineracoustics.com) Received: (qmail 15821 invoked by uid 0); 21 Oct 2008 16:22:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host68.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.68) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Oct 2008 16:22:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=shineracoustics.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=cLcXfuUdzrzaw9GsMET1ylOUxyMyp5T2qLPp5N7o0EbXsILi7r85yY4gpbkk04pc5p6hr7/lsP8FgStT6+7XjRkDpFU9Vlg9vjhi0+Nu2ZPMv4LJp8ArfhPNQ5/gOQBE; Received: from h-67-103-3-90.chcgilgm.covad.net ([67.103.3.90] helo=[192.168.0.119]) by host68.hostmonster.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KsK0L-0008RF-Mf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:22:46 -0600 Message-ID: <48FE01E5.20507@shineracoustics.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:23:01 -0500 From: Cameron Baillie Organization: Shiner + Associates User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000700060002060608070009" X-Identified-User: {1047:host68.hostmonster.com:shinerac:shineracoustics.com} {sentby:smtp auth 67.103.3.90 authed with cbaillie+shineracoustics.com} X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cbaillie@shineracoustics.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:49:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000700060002060608070009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a botched upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0-release on my hands. I followed the handbook instructions, but I I think I forgot to drop into single-user mode to install the new kernel. Two relevant files: dmesg(mod).out and fstab. The fstab doesn't show that this machine has one 70gb drive and two 286gb drives, which are supposed to be in software raid 1 (duplex). The raid was broken before I started the upgrade and I was hoping that the updgrade might fix the raid. See more on gmirror below. The 'make buildworld' and 'make installkernel' went fine - see the log file 'make buildworld, buildkernel and install kernel.out' attached. There were many error messages in 'make installkernel' - see attached. The error messages are basically: kldxref /boot/kernel kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked I see from the errata that this might be unrelated to the problems below: "[20080307] Source upgrades from FreeBSD 6./X/ to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE will generate warnings from kldxref(8) during the installkernel step. These warnings are harmless and can be ignored." Dropping into single-user mode per handbook 24.4.5, I received these error messages: # fsck -p /dev/ad0s1a: NO WRITE ACCESS /dev/ad0s1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. The attached file fsck2.out is the output from fsck. On reboot, there was a kernel panic. I tried to use dumpon but the crash occurred too early in the boot process. Here are the error messages transcribed by hand: ad0 ata0 master ad1 ata0 slave acd0 cdrw ata1 master ad3 ata1 ata1 slave geom_mirror: component ad3 (device gm0) broken, skipping geom_mirror: device mirror /gm0 launched 1/2 geom_mirror: upgrading metadata on ad3 (v3 -> v4) fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode [misc error messages] panic panic: page fault cpuid=0 I can reboot in safe mode. Here is the boot sequence text in safe mode: ad3: 286,168 MB at ata1_slave PI04 geom_mirror: component ad3 (device gm0) broken, skipping geom_mirror: device mirror/gm0 launched (1/2) geom_mirror: upgrading metadata on ad3 (v3 -> v4) geom_mirror: cannot write metadata on ad3 (device=gm0) geom_mirror: cannot update metadata on disk ad3 (error=1) trying to mount root from ufs: /dev/ad0s1a [etc] I can't proceed further with the installation nor can I mount disks in single-user mode: #make installworld make: don't know how to make installworld. Stop I can't re-do the 'make buildworld' sequence - see error messages in makeworld_b.out, attached. In trying to clean up the duplex, gmirror is now giving me the following message: server# gmirror remove gm0 ad3 Userland and kernel parts are out of sync. server# exit Blech. I've floundered about without success. How can I clean up this mess? All comments and thoughts welcome. I have not tried a binary upgrade. Will re-install but as a last option. 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<3b93bd110810210846k11a227b4j6d31d307b1aca76b@mail.gmail.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: PF Failover X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:50:46 -0000 We use pfSense for this. Works like a charm. Regards. Diego F. Arias R. escribiÃģ: > Hi: > > Does someone have a document where explain how to use PF with two link > failover? (I want to have redundancy if one internet conection fails > use the other). > > i use FreeBSD 7 Release i386. > > > I have looked at google but i only got CARP for firewall redundancy. I > want to make something similar to the pfsense failover. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:03:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAEF1065674 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5CB8FC26 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9LH3KVm042708; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:03:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D02B2BA89; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:03:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:03:16 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach Message-ID: <20081021170316.GA15516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <48F9AD35.396CEE3E@t-online.de> <20081019111807.GA65941@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <48FC89F8.2DAD155@t-online.de> <20081020151326.GA10017@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <48FDE1A4.5AB5F980@t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FDE1A4.5AB5F980@t-online.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting an MP3 player? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:03:23 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:05:24PM +0200, Johannes-Maria Kaltenbach wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Roland Smith wrote: > > > $ file -s /dev/da* > > > /dev/da1: writable, no read permission > > > /dev/da2: writable, no read permission > > > /dev/da3: writable, no read permission > > > /dev/da4: writable, no read permission > > > > Aha! you have a permissions problem. Try running the following commands > > as root, with the device plugged in: > > > > chown root:wheel /dev/da* > > chmod 660 /dev/da* >=20 > this doesn't solve the problem: >=20 > # ls -l /dev/da* >=20 > crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 128 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da0 > crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 129 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da2 > crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 130 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da3 > crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 131 Oct 21 15:34 /dev/da4 >=20 > but the output of file -s /dev/da* ist still as above: >=20 > # file -s /dev/da* > /dev/da0: writable, no read permission > /dev/da2: writable, no read permission > /dev/da3: writable, no read permission > /dev/da4: writable, no read permission Looking into the source code for the file command, this is an indication that the file command cannot open the files, even with the correct permissions.=20 I guess that this device has some quirks that need to be addressed in the driver. Maybe you can find more help on the freebsd-usb list. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj+C1QACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVxOQCdEuxhZKMqza0Sk3BCX0/0Zbry fd8An19TwJZoziyNlyWYJmzQad6wG9i1 =oq+P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:13:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBBB1065673 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1D68FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so5571941gxk.19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=9naPz71/PD5fH4NnmE12sbE7/Nx2luAtx/vf3hiPlVc=; b=lhnP35b/kCEYtCIwtHD5z65oGr1vCXt7DGmSGehkaPM+kDMvY4mdggKHgVcsawX7Sm vu8Bzvt6Vu3yzP0x5MseO+JLW9JNKvC1R68IDpVh+s5o2nIzox++/k0FFepin8XF8O39 2W2pd4R8OpBVlMaVSTGQVDTd6kOaa+SK3x6qU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=OTLXf8gPjEzQRBHVeZVFDB8URtX7jDnzb9dggBkKrbbndK6jPjcgRbjd0u6Tl7V4tb /y2mJITr8DwystSMIPbTupUrsncSYjI8h/9KHxCx7fPFEGoV06Kz9NQYxMBq5Nki/BIY Gw2LmMkfMnz9jotuBSW6aBvbCg7f2Zu0y6eoc= Received: by 10.100.208.7 with SMTP id f7mr3521775ang.94.1224607741177; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.121.18 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:49:01 -0200 From: luizbcampos To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: downloading linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:13:55 -0000 After I had tried to download linux_base-fc4 I got file unavailable not found no access...I need to put my printer to work! What`s the matter? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:21:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7DD106567E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68298FC18 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <48FE0F80.6090600@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:21:04 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081013) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48FD8A90.5080007@intersonic.se> <20081021154227.GE43091@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081021154227.GE43091@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: need help with disklabel, "expected rawoffset 0, found 32" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:21:10 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 09:53:52AM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think sysinstall? got it wrong here and I get the complaint in the >> subject line on boot. This is amd64 if that matters. Nothing edited by hand. >> >> I must admit I don't fully understand what is going on here, "found 32" >> but the offsets are 63... >> > I do not know what is causing this, but I think the offset of the 'c' > partition (and the first real partition (a in this case)) should be 0 > I have seen this a couple of times a long time ago and don't remember > what happened other than I think I just arbitrarily set those offsets > to 0 and it worked. > > Can you try booting up the fixit shell and hitting the disk with > a manual fdisk and bsdlabel to see what happens. > > Also, you might try doing the dd(1) thing > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/amrd0 bs=512 count=1000 > before the fdisk and then another one after creating the slices manually > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/amrd0s1 bs=512 count=1000 > Note, that count value is arbitrary. > > That should clean up any junk on the drive. > > Also, I haven't seen/dealt with a disk device called amrd0 before. It > appears to be something from one of the raid setups? So, maybe doing > the dd thing might mangle that although, once it is a device, it > should work the same as a drive. I ain't rich enough to have one of > those raids to play with, though, so if someone else says otherwise, > believe them. This is a backup server that uses da0 as a spool disk, we recreated that one so it looks ok. However, we still see "expected rawoffset 0, found 32" when booting and shutdown. It appears to me that sysinstall rewrote the MBR for amrd0 even if to my best knowledge it was not touched by us. Below is some information in case someone with insight might see the issue. Please let me know what more I can provide, thanks! camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on ciss0 bus 0: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) scbus1 on ciss0 bus 32: scbus2 on mpt0 bus 0: at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,ch0) at scbus2 target 5 lun 0 (sa0,pass2) < > at scbus2 target -1 lun -1 () scbus3 on mpt1 bus 0: at scbus3 target 2 lun 0 (sa1,pass3) at scbus3 target 3 lun 0 (sa2,pass4) < > at scbus3 target -1 lun -1 () scbus4 on amr0 bus 0: at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (pass5) at scbus4 target 1 lun 0 (pass6) at scbus4 target 2 lun 0 (pass7) at scbus4 target 3 lun 0 (pass8) at scbus4 target 4 lun 0 (pass9) at scbus4 target 5 lun 0 (pass10) scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) disklabel -A amrd0s1: # /dev/amrd0s1: type: ESDI disk: amrd0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 65535 sectors/unit: 2929674240 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 4194304 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 b: 8388608 4194304 swap c: 2929661532 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 31457280 12582912 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 2097152 44040192 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 f: 41943040 46137344 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 g: 2841581148 88080384 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 disklabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities disklabel -A da0s1 # /dev/da0s1: type: unknown disk: amnesiac label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 8160 cylinders: 105414 sectors/unit: 860184297 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 860184297 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 860184233 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 fdisk -tv ******* Working on device /dev/amrd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=182363 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=182363 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 2929661532 (1430498 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:29:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521E91065676 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075978FC23 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.16.38] (helo=moosa) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1KsL2Z-0009mM-Hy; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:29:07 +0400 To: luizbcampos References: From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:28:47 +0400 In-Reply-To: (luizbcampos@gmail.com's message of "Tue\, 21 Oct 2008 14\:49\:01 -0200") Message-ID: <38095920@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: downloading linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:29:10 -0000 On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:49:01 -0200 luizbcampos wrote: > After I had tried to download linux_base-fc4 I got file > unavailable not found no access...I need to put my printer to work! You may try to use packages: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html > What`s the matter? You didn't show any diagnostics (exact commands, exact output, etc.) so it's hard to say anything. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:30:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB6E106569B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E918FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1116257nfh.33 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5S9IV/z7BNTyUigmVgdM7XXYdkVQK2O1sGXEfzjk0Qs=; b=ke39hX8rzJxYYxs98pZcVkZcEvCuJrggsoFmT2RMoDAEJw4VyKgn30LJZQ5QFmXr5b AMRPPGFq5r1Z7VYmFmd05QiUs8XY3CYyAAQLVnrPoF23ADPB3GaJ9uvlqo2Vui9Z29VG 5tC4B6kB3HKVn2IieItiIW1QhC6oT4Oz8uWnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nPQ+JULkj9RmU6opUpvpfgU3QtlKFrsZODIQs90cNlxhFIwWdzKUfjlwlNvnKtUQOH Pp/B+RVe1Pqz2UClpfmNETi0/yQjw+6skxlfAzze2BoZLzlCmqZlwmzOPgum5K5RUScR UpYakSczUDekKBGH5OusDAsbP+zGrvyILspQM= Received: by 10.210.21.13 with SMTP id 13mr10594734ebu.162.1224610233504; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-288578.home.otenet.gr [85.73.174.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm52792749nfu.9.2008.10.21.10.30.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FE11B6.6090001@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:30:30 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <48FDF890.6080600@gmail.com> <1224607442.8122.29.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1224607442.8122.29.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Error with kernel PAE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:30:35 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 18:43 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Trying to build my own kernel with PAE option and getting the following >>> error... >>> >>> /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c: In function 'adv_action': >>> /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c:259: warning: cast from pointer to >>> integer of different size >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> I removed the PAE option keeping my SMP option in the kernel >>> configuration for this dual proc server and it builds fine. Any idea >>> what I can do for this error? >>> >>> >>> >> Have a look at: >> >> /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/PAE >> >> Is the device that is causing the problem listed with a "nodevice" entry? >> I guess in your case, it is the "adv" device, and it is listed. This >> means it does not work with a PAE kernel. >> > > Thanks, yes, I have nodevice in the PAE file for adv. What does this > mean and/or how can I address this problem? Should I just remove the > entry from the PAE file? > No. The idea behind the "PAE" file is that whatever you see with nodevice is not supported by PAE kernels. Even if you manage to compile a kernel with the device, you will just get into trouble. The idea behind this file is that you change the line: include GENERIC on the top, to your own custom kernel configuration file. Then you compile with make buildkernel KERNCONF=PAE which gets all your settings from your own file *minus* the ones that are incompatible with PAE (the ones identified with nodevice) > > >> How about going with the 64bit version of FreeBSD? >> > > That was my first try, but the CPU appears not to support amd64 as there > are no AMD Features listed in dmesg. > > Is it a 64bit CPU? The AMD64 version of FreeBSD supports the Intel 64bit (Core2 / Quad / Xeon / Pentium 4 / Pentium D) processors as well, regardless of the "AMD" in its name. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:38:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D284106569A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A9B8FC23 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9LHcAjd029947; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:38:10 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <48FE11B6.6090001@gmail.com> References: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <48FDF890.6080600@gmail.com> <1224607442.8122.29.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <48FE11B6.6090001@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:38:31 -0400 Message-Id: <1224610711.8122.41.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Error with kernel PAE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:38:12 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 20:30 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Is it a 64bit CPU? The AMD64 version of FreeBSD supports the Intel > 64bit > (Core2 / Quad / Xeon / Pentium 4 / Pentium D) processors as well, > regardless of the "AMD" in its name. It is an Intel Xeon 2.4GHz processor, but I was told yesterday here on the list that if LM does not appear in the AMD Features line of dmesg, then it does not support amd64. I looked at another server we have here now running amd64 FreeBSD and I see the AMD Features line with LM, but on this server, no AMD Features line whatsoever. I am getting 'BTX halted' when trying to install FreeBSD-amd64 on this server. The other server we have running it has Xeon 3.0GHz procs, I thought that was kinda weird that the two servers were really close in spec, but one would not run amd64 :/ This would be my preferred option if I can get it to install. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:42:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABEE106566B; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB98FC21; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9LHg6JJ006766; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:42:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: robert@webtent.com Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:03:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224550327.21638.2.camel@laptop.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1224550327.21638.2.camel@laptop.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810211203.44931.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:42:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8461/Tue Oct 21 10:16:58 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:42:25 -0000 On Monday 20 October 2008 08:52:07 pm Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 13:45 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > > i386 cannot address more than 4GB unless the kernel is built with > > PAE > > > mode enabled. This isn't enabled in GENERIC for many (justified) > > > reasons. If you have more than 4GB, you should be using amd64, so > > you > > > made the right decision there. > > > > If you aren't using kernel modules, then PAE should work fine. You > > can make > > kernel modules work with PAE as well, but that takes more work. > > Thanks for the help, I am missing AMD Features for this CPU in dmesg, so > it looks like the CPU does not support amd64. I tried to build my own > kernel with PAE option and getting the following error... > > /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c: In function 'adv_action': > /usr/src/sys/dev/advansys/advansys.c:259: warning: cast from pointer to > integer of different size > *** Error code 1 > > Any idea what I can do for this error? Some drivers don't work with PAE (see all the 'nodevice' lines in /sys/i386/conf/PAE). You'll need to purge those drivers from your config. If you are using the hardware those drivers support, then you can't use PAE. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:48:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71651106567F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFD18FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so775459eyi.7 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6AIYYIvvOGOBg/pW7V6OeVVsQQTteOKomgGBADLCCKg=; b=OjoR0lZmyl46BPpdxbiGyMBBF2SWhPJz8Lr7/O6SjyzCRK46EpQQTQQ9be4OpP7vif aP/UBvQAsDCAvTIZ5f98u5agcQ+UtEi23F+syfzrGGsqR47c8wNwucMG5TLaaa4E5RZE M3A4ZzU1LC9kuB5DTKp8IP0FmgSTAyRRDNlGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KS6yc2gCBGpNULcwOylCauJhQxE8YQsbod55kke4pZBR6a/VH7RI87/rwIwVPEI12Z 6hFamKFy6MLvjrpIloKXWFN/VnkaJRgJ+Hzu4bhfxxQVDHLcivYl3WIoSUCIItFOveZH gnKBd7XJbwxE3sNiWF4WpRjRxJkBWcUOH38G8= Received: by 10.210.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr10678307eba.23.1224611314764; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-288578.home.otenet.gr [85.73.174.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f6sm53153044nfh.12.2008.10.21.10.48.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FE15EF.8070808@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:48:31 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <1224603212.8122.14.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <48FDF890.6080600@gmail.com> <1224607442.8122.29.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <48FE11B6.6090001@gmail.com> <1224610711.8122.41.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1224610711.8122.41.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Error with kernel PAE option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:48:37 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 20:30 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> Is it a 64bit CPU? The AMD64 version of FreeBSD supports the Intel >> 64bit >> (Core2 / Quad / Xeon / Pentium 4 / Pentium D) processors as well, >> regardless of the "AMD" in its name. >> > > It is an Intel Xeon 2.4GHz processor, but I was told yesterday here on > the list that if LM does not appear in the AMD Features line of dmesg, > then it does not support amd64. I looked at another server we have here > now running amd64 FreeBSD and I see the AMD Features line with LM, but > on this server, no AMD Features line whatsoever. I am getting 'BTX > halted' when trying to install FreeBSD-amd64 on this server. The other > server we have running it has Xeon 3.0GHz procs, I thought that was > kinda weird that the two servers were really close in spec, but one > would not run amd64 :/ > > This would be my preferred option if I can get it to install. > > Well, LM is the flag for x86-64. You are probably running a 32bit Xeon CPU. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 17:56:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B4D1065685 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 7yuny1@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5798FC1E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 7yuny1@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1256849tid.3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=1nfYuW2lwrNS45SWt3/4eiuZNgzdodjQezvRLOK2oT0=; b=QhivDvHiUFacrKMs+g5vZJxaI3pjhQ/d5LVVwQvxZyIfiT9NyBhpGbFLpLD6srimfW QXIjxxcMfLFPjruB2JayiECENLCSx7jc8N+kstUxR4RexhmVc3pjFPfnPJbCqMSXrTTe k5P9F0k8VPhQhoXf6gDtn9h7Wnh3vTdPj5K8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tJSPENJCJJs9u9lVHPdEs+H9+b7SrqVbKwHPPKAnPBJcSMJKsHp2ySnBTCFjqABpuc wxDAThvnzSheknDy1YvU5FKJGLDeOXJ3C5awBMJMwVvZNNfQCeTjMO7cViuzlECO4PM4 sRsfxNCmGcRICbgrSEzTKJVWZUw6YAiDatupo= Received: by 10.110.10.11 with SMTP id 11mr6208518tij.34.1224609974423; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.31.7 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <81a9e3840810211026t1de2ecds9d8c825c958e101a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:26:14 +0800 From: "Jyun-Yi Liou" <7yuny1@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 7.0R on EeeBOX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:56:42 -0000 hi list! I am trying to install my favor FreeBSD on EeeBOX via CD-ROM it's ok during boot, but sysinstall can't write discklabel in FreeBSD Discklabel Editor it said: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad0s1b in /dev! the creation of filesystems will be aborted I try to boot with ACPI disable, but it's no good. How can I do for write discklabel in HDD? Regards, jyuny1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:00:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDFF1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tad1214@aol.com) Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com (imo-d21.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181B18FC21 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tad1214@aol.com) Received: from Tad1214@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id n.bc6.367854d7 (37072) for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Osprey2.cptxoffice.net (ng1.cptxoffice.net [208.74.121.102]) by cia-db05.mx.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB056-90d048fe164eec; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:50:06 -0400 Message-ID: <48FE1643.9050405@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:49:55 -0500 From: Thomas Donnelly User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080917) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 208.74.121.102 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: Expanding slice/partition on SPARC64 with gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:17 -0000 Hi all, I am still fairly new to FreeBSD but here is the situation I have a sparc Netra T1 AC 200, running FBSD 6-stable. It had dual 18GB disks in a gmirror raid 1, As can be imagined, ran out of space quickly. I purchased 2x73GB scsi drives. I removed 1 of the 18GBs, placed 73GB in, rebuilt the mirror, removed the other 18GB, inserted 73GB, rebuilt mirror. Ok, so I have 2 73GB drives in there in a mirror (/dev/mirror/gm0) they are partitioned as such: Otter# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/mirror/gm0a 501M 70M 392M 15% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/mirror/gm0e 501M 356K 461M 0% /tmp /dev/mirror/gm0f 11G 9.8G 771M 93% /usr /dev/mirror/gm0d 1.9G 165M 1.6G 9% /var I want to grow the /usr partition to fill the rest of the 73gb. What do I need to do. sunlabel always complains about geom not found whenever I try to do anything so I assume I need to break the mirror and change things then rebuild the mirror? Not sure how to do this and even when I do get it to work I'm not sure what I need to do with sunlabel. Thanks!!!! -=Tom Donnelly Please CC me as I am not on the list. Relevant info: Sunlabel shows: # /dev//mirror/gm0: text: FreeBSD17G cyl 2200 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 bytes/sector: 512 sectors/cylinder: 16065 sectors/unit: 35343000 8 partitions: # # Size is in sectors. # Offset is in cylinders. # size offset # ---------- ---------- a: 1060290 0 b: 4144770 66 c: 35343000 0 d: 4176900 324 e: 1060290 584 f: 24900750 650 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.4-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Oct 2 11:40:35 CDT 2008 root@Otter.hsd1.mn.comcast.net.:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "tick" frequency 500000000 Hz quality 1000 real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) avail memory = 1031413760 (983 MB) cpu0: Sun Microsystems UltraSparc-IIe Processor (500.00 MHz CPU) kbd0 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413, REGOPS_FUNC) nexus0: pcib0: on nexus0 pcib0: Sabre, impl 0, version 0, IGN 0x7c0, bus A, 66MHz pcib0: [FAST] pcib0: [FAST] pcib0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib0: DVMA map: 0xc0000000 to 0xc3ffffff pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.1 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 ebus0: mem 0xf0000000-0xf0ffffff,0xf1000000-0xf17fffff at device 12.0 on pci1 ebus0: : incomplete ebus0: addr 0x1000000000-0x10000fffff (no driver attached) eeprom0: addr 0x1400000000-0x1400001fff on ebus0 eeprom0: model mk48t59 ebus0: addr 0x1400200000-0x1400200003 irq 42 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 3.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci1 isa0: on isab0 gem0: mem 0xe0400000-0xe041ffff at device 12.1 on pci1 miibus0: on gem0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto gem0: 2kB RX FIFO, 2kB TX FIFO gem0: Ethernet address: 08:00:20:fd:f7:9c ohci0: mem 0xe2000000-0xe2007fff at device 12.3 on pci1 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x108e) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered atapci0: port 0x400-0x407,0x418-0x41b,0x410-0x417,0x408-0x40b,0x420-0x42f at device 13.0 on pci1 atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for 48bit DMA access bug, expect reduced performance ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 gem1: mem 0xe0440000-0xe045ffff at device 5.1 on pci1 miibus1: on gem1 ukphy1: on miibus1 ukphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto gem1: 2kB RX FIFO, 2kB TX FIFO gem1: Ethernet address: 08:00:20:fd:f7:9c ohci1: mem 0xe5000000-0xe5007fff at device 5.3 on pci1 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: (0x108e) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 sym0: <896> port 0xc00000-0xc000ff mem 0x2000-0x23ff,0x4000-0x5fff at device 8.0 on pci2 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sym1: <896> port 0xc00100-0xc001ff mem 0x6000-0x63ff,0x8000-0x9fff at device 8.1 on pci2 sym1: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym1: [GIANT-LOCKED] nexus0: , type (unknown) (no driver attached) uart0: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 43 on isa0 uart0: console (9600,n,8,1) uart1: <16550 or compatible> at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 43 on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe0:sym0:0:0:4): AutoSense Failed (probe0:sym0:0:0:5): AutoSense Failed (probe0:sym0:0:0:6): AutoSense Failed (probe0:sym0:0:0:7): AutoSense Failed da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 70007MB (143374738 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C) GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0 created (id=915151075). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider da0 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider da1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider da1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider da0 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/gm0 launched. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:25:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AF41065672 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8678FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so475976ywe.13 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:25:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=6PsAmA12MGcTMHwWnZ1PTDnbgh+IHTWVuheMUkQTbEU=; b=MCh10RCEhMBC0S281rf1fXvn3pFQ9B1DJ+3uliYA7yjQDK94gIhpa6DtPKbgEEbLi0 C/500d8onmgix+yUa1BMlqWMeB6LfixsfcoT/1OIP40vS1tnbEP2sy9V6c+2CJerPUJ1 PHjthZdCyqU2pwTIG/UQHfUdoI7CufjcCjqvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=OGGEWHijxF4B7W1NpSMve/Y5HSK4Aet476vkWgVbzd1kJ23LyRXspTsRmx7fbHgIrG Y4bb1coKQobniU8zyMT0nTCt6DDieON/XCyQBgIu62NJn8wP2oP1nzByKaUUMN9WUAN4 LMGlf/mJ8LhWrDQg4cNlhViI5EeIzNjdvaOY0= Received: by 10.64.242.4 with SMTP id p4mr7015758qbh.81.1224613537530; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.235.19 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35f70db10810211125v71572b87rcf8025cad5ee00d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:25:37 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a93bb0f8f4171beb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Building a linuxbase-***** X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:25:39 -0000 Hi there I have a bit of an odd question and hopefully this will be the right place to ask (please bare with me)........ I'd like to know how to build a Linuxulator OS image of a custom GNU/Linux distro I've inherited the maintenance of. On top of this distro several binary only applications are run. HOWEVER I'd like to take advantage of the fBSD 7 kernel and IP_Filter in the next release,... while maintaining compatibility with the Linux API/ABI. Does anyone have some pointers as to where to find some /GOOD/ docs on how to build the Linuxulator "linuxbase-****" packages??? Many thanks Ross From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:35:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAF91065680; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A518FC20; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9LIZ0Na012660; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:35:01 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200810211203.44931.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224550327.21638.2.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810211203.44931.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:35:22 -0400 Message-Id: <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:03 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:03 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Some drivers don't work with PAE (see all the 'nodevice' lines > in /sys/i386/conf/PAE). You'll need to purge those drivers from your > config. > If you are using the hardware those drivers support, then you can't > use PAE. Thanks for the help. Excuse the ignorance, I'm more a programmer than system guy. How do I purge a driver, or know which driver to look for, from the config and know what the driver supports? Do you mean, in this case, remove 'nodevice adv' from the PAE file? If so, I don't know what that supports :/ -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:35:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D2F10656A1 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD298FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 54580 invoked by uid 89); 21 Oct 2008 18:35:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 21 Oct 2008 18:35:14 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48FD47E6.8040201@boosten.org> References: <1479DAD4-A72B-415E-B8B0-FDEA810161ED@identry.com> <6E564226-98BE-4464-BA6C-A95848F02ABC@identry.com> <48FD47E6.8040201@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1D3A7106-EEEB-4D89-99A6-7B4E3F9B17DD@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:35:13 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:16 -0000 On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Peter Boosten wrote: > John Almberg wrote: >> >> I tried this, and not surprisingly, it didn't work. Now I'm trying to >> debug it... >> > > Maybe some mixup in the keys? In my example ssh tries to read the > private key of root on the connecting server, so the server where the > database is located, because init is run as root. If you need another > key, then you need to specify this with the -i parameter. > Ah... that makes sense. I had set up the keys for 'admin', but of course init is run by root. Duh. That raises another issue... I don't allow root logins on either server, for security reasons... Peter, I appreciate your ideas and help, but I think I will stick with autossh, probably by finally learning how to create an rc.d script (not sure the actual name for these, but you know what I mean.) I've actually got autossh working, and think it's a simpler solution for me. Thanks. Brgds: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:35:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C001106567B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8808FC2D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.16.38] (helo=moosa) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1KsM4i-000Ae5-Cf; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:35:24 +0400 To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za References: <35f70db10810211125v71572b87rcf8025cad5ee00d0@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:35:17 +0400 In-Reply-To: <35f70db10810211125v71572b87rcf8025cad5ee00d0@mail.gmail.com> (Ross Cameron's message of "Tue\, 21 Oct 2008 20\:25\:37 +0200") Message-ID: <72011930@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Building a linuxbase-***** X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:35:26 -0000 On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:25:37 +0200 Ross Cameron wrote: > I have a bit of an odd question and hopefully this will be the right place > to ask (please bare with me)........ > I'd like to know how to build a Linuxulator OS image of a custom GNU/Linux > distro I've inherited the maintenance of. > On top of this distro several binary only applications are run. > HOWEVER I'd like to take advantage of the fBSD 7 kernel and IP_Filter in the > next release,... while maintaining compatibility with the Linux API/ABI. > Does anyone have some pointers as to where to find some /GOOD/ docs on how > to build the Linuxulator "linuxbase-****" packages??? I'm not aware of such docs. If you need a custom linux_base-XXX package then use those packages that contains binaries (don't forget to brandelf them) and libraries (don't brandelf them) you need. Take a look at those linux_base ports (available at the ports tree) as an example. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:38:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D62106569D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1220E8FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1261490tid.3 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:organization :x-face:x-uptime:x-url:x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os :x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:date:message-id:user-agent:face :mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=5azlqZrCLVx460Hbcmnl+i/XHvX9hrHSQurrdv/UWqE=; b=VjWQmcQJ5i1LcdLZb13RULrscG1xSv1rQBT97d/PwtUXGkfGHLGcxsFjDwZXkGQ29J e+1xz9B+unEsb550ZQ4ZAAqEDhakyFXPKjH3ABqZhcRoOsuTk6eNZjwVc1mRSuJUKetF /xIXKaBBEjvKc8zG8mDGL+wLiz8n4/kM7c2zA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:organization:x-face:x-uptime:x-url:x-openpgp-id :x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os:x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:date :message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=EOU5jiWcW+5Gy+cl6MwC7MktHgFwzewG0PWHgJ80KkDAdo+H2giVayYVj43s8l9UpP Dg6N+CxA4SPqzN0bnuWws2nqRWhqyP8lfOpcQRoS50QX9KgQEyHvtKlgWKyTvCgOjhfm R1AMPjv/3eMXJETBY5uBYbnDkk3KccMjclVyM= Received: by 10.110.10.11 with SMTP id 11mr6267008tij.34.1224614301699; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.lf ([122.162.250.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm9747210tif.0.2008.10.21.11.38.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IA==?= =?utf-8?B?4KS24KWB4KSV4KWN4KSy?=) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: alt.religion.emacs X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 00:05:44 up 4:14, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 X-URL: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ X-OpenPGP-ID: 762E5E74 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74 X-OS: GNU/Linux on Linux 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 kernel on x86_64 architecture X-Mailer: Gnus/5.13 (Oort 5.13) Emacs/23.0.60.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:09:05 +0530 Message-ID: <87hc75pzcm.fsf@chateau.d.lf> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksiBBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xh?= Subject: Using packages compiled for 7.0-RELEASE in 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:38:24 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, I'm having a confusion about installing packages compiled in 7.0-RELEASE in 8.0-CURRENT. I've 2 boxen, a 7.0-RELEASE-p5 and a 8-CURRENT. The 7.0-RELEASE-p5 is fully updated as of now, and has all updated ports available in the form of binary packages. Now, I'm wondering if it is okay to install those binary packages on my 8-CURRENT box. Has anyone tried this ? And what kind of issues you experienced. Issues to dependencies on libraries in base install, hmm...? Thanks in advance, Ashish -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ·-- ·- ···· ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- % dig +short cname cdac.in @::1 ms.gov.in --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkj+Ic0ACgkQHy+EEHYuXnSZ+ACfWawcpN3QGBf3vSDAzHG7K+p/ aXQAoO7iAK8EsP6ks2lUyUwkvzkWuAqy =nLOF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:43:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806B51065673 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC228FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 55615 invoked by uid 89); 21 Oct 2008 18:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 21 Oct 2008 18:43:37 -0000 In-Reply-To: <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5C58A1145@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:43:36 -0400 To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:43:38 -0000 On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:44 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > John Almberg wrote: > >> I do know that Mysql supports SSL... somehow this got discounted >> early in the discussion, perhaps mistakenly? > > I believe the thinking was that although MySQL claims to support SSL, > it does in fact make a pretty bodge of it, and a more effective > approach is to pipe MySQL traffic through an encrypted tunnel. > > Personally I just use IPSec for this, but people might also like to > consider stunnel (http://www.stunnel.org/) or OpenVPN (http:// > openvpn.net/) Stunnel and OpenVPN are on my list, in case autossh has unexpected problems, but I figured I'd try the simplest approach first. Other than figuring out what holes to poke in the firewalls, autossh was pretty simple to set up. Now I just need to figure out how to start it on reboot, but that is something I've been meaning to learn, anyway, so I don't mind. I appreciate your help. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:47:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6C8106567F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6538FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VVZD1a00F0b6N64A1WnCkZ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:47:12 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VWnB1a00R2P6wsM8PWnBVo; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:47:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VzWalFZNP_EA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=bTCJFd4MDfAwUU-wzkMA:9 a=uTDVB0dRFs2nRDN0v3rKWou_kV8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F08DC9432; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:47:11 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: robert@webtent.com Message-ID: <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224550327.21638.2.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810211203.44931.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD , John Baldwin Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:47:13 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:35:22PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:03 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > Some drivers don't work with PAE (see all the 'nodevice' lines > > in /sys/i386/conf/PAE). You'll need to purge those drivers from your > > config. > > If you are using the hardware those drivers support, then you can't > > use PAE. > > Thanks for the help. Excuse the ignorance, I'm more a programmer than > system guy. How do I purge a driver, or know which driver to look for, > from the config and know what the driver supports? Do you mean, in this > case, remove 'nodevice adv' from the PAE file? If so, I don't know what > that supports :/ Yeah, I don't think anyone's really explaining this very well to you, so I'll try a different approach: Certain FreeBSD drivers do not work in PAE mode. The drivers which don't work are listed in the /sys/i386/conf/PAE file. They're prefixed by the word "nodevice", which tells the kernel config reader "DO NOT build this device, because it won't work". You will need to take the "nodevice" lines from /sys/i386/conf/PAE and put them into your kernel config file. (There are alternative methods such as using "include" directives and so on, but I'm trying to keep this explanation simple.) Make sense now? :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 19:05:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F08D1065673; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61828FC1C; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9LJ5Yrc020616; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:05:34 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810201345.35248.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224550327.21638.2.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810211203.44931.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:05:57 -0400 Message-Id: <1224615957.8122.75.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD , John Baldwin Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:05:36 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 11:47 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > The drivers which don't work are listed in the /sys/i386/conf/PAE > file. They're prefixed by the word "nodevice", which tells the > kernel config reader "DO NOT build this device, because it won't > work". > > You will need to take the "nodevice" lines from /sys/i386/conf/PAE and > put them into your kernel config file. (There are alternative methods > such as using "include" directives and so on, but I'm trying to keep > this explanation simple.) > > Make sense now? :-) Perfect sense now, believe it or not I was beginning to think along these lines as I was doing some searching and found 'device adv' in my config file and there was a description of the hardware it was for, which I don't have. Thanks for the clarification, now let's see if I can get this build done...thanks to all! -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 19:10:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56AA1065679; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462258FC14; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9LJAPVT007440; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:10:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Jeremy Chadwick Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:09:53 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810211509.53454.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:10:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8462/Tue Oct 21 13:22:09 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: robert@webtent.com, FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:10:37 -0000 On Tuesday 21 October 2008 02:47:11 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 02:35:22PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:03 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Some drivers don't work with PAE (see all the 'nodevice' lines > > > in /sys/i386/conf/PAE). You'll need to purge those drivers from your > > > config. > > > If you are using the hardware those drivers support, then you can't > > > use PAE. > > > > Thanks for the help. Excuse the ignorance, I'm more a programmer than > > system guy. How do I purge a driver, or know which driver to look for, > > from the config and know what the driver supports? Do you mean, in this > > case, remove 'nodevice adv' from the PAE file? If so, I don't know what > > that supports :/ > > Yeah, I don't think anyone's really explaining this very well to you, so > I'll try a different approach: > > Certain FreeBSD drivers do not work in PAE mode. > > The drivers which don't work are listed in the /sys/i386/conf/PAE > file. They're prefixed by the word "nodevice", which tells the > kernel config reader "DO NOT build this device, because it won't > work". > > You will need to take the "nodevice" lines from /sys/i386/conf/PAE and > put them into your kernel config file. (There are alternative methods > such as using "include" directives and so on, but I'm trying to keep > this explanation simple.) > > Make sense now? :-) Alternatively, you could just remove the 'device adv' line from your kernel config rather than adding lots of 'nodevice' lines at the bottom. You can usually do 'man 4 ' to see what devices it supports. In this case, adv(4) supports mostly ancient Advansys SCSI host adapters. The manpage has a full list of the various model numbers, etc. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 19:22:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BA11065672; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from tpa-hosting.webtent.net (tpa-hosting.webtent.net [208.38.145.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD3C8FC13; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from [72.64.244.51] (columbus.webtent.org [72.64.244.51]) by tpa-hosting.webtent.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9LJM5dc024936; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:22:05 -0400 From: Robert Fitzpatrick To: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: <200810211509.53454.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> <200810211509.53454.jhb@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:22:28 -0400 Message-Id: <1224616948.8122.79.camel@columbus.webtent.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:07 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:09 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Alternatively, you could just remove the 'device adv' line from your > kernel > config rather than adding lots of 'nodevice' lines at the bottom. You > can > usually do 'man 4 ' to see what devices it supports. In > this > case, adv(4) supports mostly ancient Advansys SCSI host adapters. > The > manpage has a full list of the various model numbers, etc. Yes, that is what I thought. Right now, I am just commenting them out, now I know what people mean when they say they are running a trimmed/clean kernel. I did see one potential issue... # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) I see all of these with nodevice lines in the PAE file. Although I have USB ports, I don't use them, but I was concerned by the 'required' on the last one, is it OK to remove? Also, would I then need to disable USB in the BIOS to avoid errors? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 19:22:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01772106566C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe_tseng@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s28.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s28.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E242A8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe_tseng@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY117-W9 ([207.46.8.44]) by bay0-omc1-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:22:44 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [66.134.128.178] From: Joe Tseng To: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:22:44 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2008 19:22:44.0588 (UTC) FILETIME=[64D892C0:01C933B2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [OT] Nagios timeouts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:22:45 -0000 Earlier this morning I was getting Nagios alerts about potential issues wit= h my FreeBSD 6.1 servers. All the emails I got had this problem: Connection refused by host I did some digging around today and I didn't get anything definitive=2C but= I did notice there was a time correlation between the messages and certain= log entries that seem to be associated with various cron jobs. Is it poss= ible that I'm getting false positives due to my servers servicing these job= s and not being able to respond to Nagios queries? - Joe _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn= s!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 19:23:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52915106567F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0088.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249498FC1F for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F2D6152382E for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:23:43 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, e5624178e8d23bd0, 9510f55e4507d164, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1568:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:1981:2393:2559:2562:2689:3636:3690:3865:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3876:3877:4250:4362:5007:6114:7652:7903:8501, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf13.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: Chris Pratt Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:23:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Subject: cvsup to 7.0 from 5.5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:23:45 -0000 How risky is it to jump directly to 7.0 on a 5.5 system? Upgrade would be by cvsup. I expect mergemaster issues anyway but this system is relatively vanilla in it's configuration. It's duty is just rsyncing other servers. The kernel is GENERIC minus drivers plus ipfw and there are no kldloads. Can this jump be made? I was hoping to avoid having to make two major release jumps by doing only one. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 19:25:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFBE1065672 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAD48FC21 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VWDj1a00Z1HpZEsA1XRr6Y; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:25:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VXRq1a00P2P6wsM8aXRqvX; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:25:51 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VzWalFZNP_EA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=4-ZoNfEdZeM7nW6saGYA:9 a=N82pwhBTbIecmOIsvhgA:7 a=-uo2ZCwYxvK42Cdm56t1j5CWCpYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 530D9C9432; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:25:50 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: robert@webtent.com Message-ID: <20081021192550.GA38296@icarus.home.lan> References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <1224614122.8122.62.camel@columbus.webtent.org> <20081021184711.GA37448@icarus.home.lan> <200810211509.53454.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224616948.8122.79.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1224616948.8122.79.camel@columbus.webtent.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD , John Baldwin Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:25:52 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 03:22:28PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:09 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > Alternatively, you could just remove the 'device adv' line from your > > kernel > > config rather than adding lots of 'nodevice' lines at the bottom. You > > can > > usually do 'man 4 ' to see what devices it supports. In > > this > > case, adv(4) supports mostly ancient Advansys SCSI host adapters. > > The > > manpage has a full list of the various model numbers, etc. > > Yes, that is what I thought. Right now, I am just commenting them out, > now I know what people mean when they say they are running a > trimmed/clean kernel. > > I did see one potential issue... > > # USB support > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) > device usb # USB Bus (required) > > I see all of these with nodevice lines in the PAE file. Although I have > USB ports, I don't use them, but I was concerned by the 'required' on > the last one, is it OK to remove? Also, would I then need to disable USB > in the BIOS to avoid errors? If you remove "device usb", you will also need to remove uhci, ohci, ehci, umass, ukbd, etc. etc. etc... from your config as well. You do not need to disable USB support in the BIOS; the kernel will simply state that it sees devices on the PCI bus but lacks a driver to attach to them. This will not harm anything. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 18:25:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84991065671 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com) Received: from web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C67B8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36379 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2008 18:25:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Zrp1FIPzqdiXcnTwU6pev5Z8/KGKIdmpo1LvwQDAAT/UvZwnnlI6krJTnkO5VJTPgKRdF1CyjlGwqACdOw8SW+4S/BUZTPuIwARwvLaiko3hdRNTNkObDbCHFJDZR1SjvMvNtAp9se7jrEQnmm87KQAmL8sCq6dixvOkq9vt/80=; X-YMail-OSG: SClDilkVM1mTodsiBlzv74AtJGo3JyZWAlSIX0KVRYzvmHganunEjNSOPYZGKrGMmB0qOuMHkSloeFUFaE8TtX8syPoOC3SfjpmPEc7kGmdnJf_qxlCkNULEiowM39BywqUKYI9Xqzup2BAWv9uQ99K0u2qi2xgg.XiobL__VNkRNMW.ZJPLjt0ODuD1 Received: from [63.245.17.123] by web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:25:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerardo Paredes To: David Robillard In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60810210918xbd221c3q5a0926df66b2aa6f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <608552.36336.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:32:59 +0000 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:25:33 -0000 --- On Tue, 10/21/08, David Robillard wrote: > From: David Robillard > Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster > To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com > Cc: "Maxim Khitrov" , "FreeBSD Questions" > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:18 AM > You might want to talk to the author of this: > http://www.bsdcan.org/2007/schedule/events/6.en.html > "Reflections on Building a High-performance Computing > Cluster Using > FreeBSD" by Brooks Davis. > >From what i have read, Matt Olander and Brooks Davis are the foremost experts at cluster building on FreeBSD. However i believe a document needs to be written explaining in detailed steps how to do it, so the common user can do it. Obviously not every "common" man needs a cluster. In my case i am pitching the project of a big cluster to our University here in Honduras to run some kinds of apps we have, like a Trade Exchange Market Simulation written in Python we have about two years developing which we plan to run distributed across the cluster. Since I cannot attend that seminar, i will be expecting for at least the presentation to be posted. Gerardo Paredes > Regards, > > David > -- > David Robillard > UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA > CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator > Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 > > If you receive something that says "Send this to > everyone you know", > then please pretend you don't know me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 20:20:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4E41065674 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8968FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so491516yxb.13 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:20:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=E+NhVpdSz0VvN+KxhJ3PFAPsAH3F3GvgHBb19JOMWL0=; b=AVpowQm2nn0sMnbhrgHaWSwTIhvPn3Blh9vhfZ/Iq4G8FU12kdLabgkf461JLK8Ohu lCMmtUeWWD4p0wWoMrPY633FrGtzT/Twk5EfGbiEPkwuF8G4+C3ya8Yq++hpYd1+ctQ/ O6tGa406LBYNHsnBXp3HFfoc82idnIikl58q4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=LxqvSomjbR4X6mxWHmhOj1zGTkKHi+0DHAgz8gQcr59PRtp4nKIcL8PRLtVzogt+xo Jm3WOcSO4DFNVIG70/stswLzM3o89up6fc6LSpOquQS9PMwxe+4ekUEOMzMbA9O+RVaK dpVtdf11LREALEhDXobgopkeKlgTZ/OHQTmh4= Received: by 10.143.37.20 with SMTP id p20mr3943100wfj.252.1224620438528; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.234.21 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <226ae0c60810211320q47286a73qed76d44f76021f13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:20:38 -0400 From: "David Robillard" To: gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <608552.36336.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <226ae0c60810210918xbd221c3q5a0926df66b2aa6f@mail.gmail.com> <608552.36336.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:20:40 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gerardo Paredes wrote: > From what i have read, Matt Olander and Brooks Davis are the foremost experts at cluster building on FreeBSD. However i believe a document needs to be written explaining in detailed steps how to do it, so the common user can do it. Obviously not every "common" man needs a cluster. > > In my case i am pitching the project of a big cluster to our University here in Honduras to run some kinds of apps we have, like a Trade Exchange Market Simulation written in Python we have about two years developing which we plan to run distributed across the cluster. > > > Since I cannot attend that seminar, i will be expecting for at least the presentation to be posted. Actually, this was a presentation I attended last year. So the slides already exist. You can also grab their old paper at http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/papers/bsdcon2003/ but this is a bit out-dated. My advice would be to try and contact Mr. Brooks Davis directly. If you can't find him, try and send an email to the organisers of BSDCan from http://www.bsdcan.org/2008/contact.php. I believe you should talk to Dan Langille on the BSDCan commitee http://www.bsdcan.org/2008/committee.php Good luck and have fun! Your project seems quite interesting :) David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 If you receive something that says "Send this to everyone you know", then please pretend you don't know me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 20:26:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DF01065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487108FC1D for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9LKQ0sh035242; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:26:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9LKPx4O035239; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:26:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:25:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430810210016v920449j129790dc68a7df97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081021222524.H35179@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48F8A258.2060407@esiee.fr> <20081017174145.L10784@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1960fb140810170913s237f7295jd5e192f1745c9dcb@mail.gmail.com> <48FC3F66.9080507@esiee.fr> <139b44430810200133o1241cf4w997fddbc4dd7492d@mail.gmail.com> <20081020174218.H14917@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081021084300.2495a8f3.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> <139b44430810210016v920449j129790dc68a7df97@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Manfred Usselmann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:26:10 -0000 > i didn't > had the time to debug it to find out the problem. I would like to know what > happened there. > The good thing is that a future client of my company works with the same > accounting software > and the server runs FBSD so if something goes wrong i'll have the time to > debug properly. it may be some new problems with locking if you say about accounting software. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 21:21:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A381065671; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1598FC14; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9LLL1Sp008543; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:21:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: robert@webtent.com Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:36:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1224445801.6926.0.camel@laptop.webtent.org> <200810211509.53454.jhb@freebsd.org> <1224616948.8122.79.camel@columbus.webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <1224616948.8122.79.camel@columbus.webtent.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810211536.47957.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:21:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8465/Tue Oct 21 16:14:56 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Subject: Re: page fault while in kernel mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:21:09 -0000 On Tuesday 21 October 2008 03:22:28 pm Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:09 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > Alternatively, you could just remove the 'device adv' line from your > > kernel > > config rather than adding lots of 'nodevice' lines at the bottom. You > > can > > usually do 'man 4 ' to see what devices it supports. In > > this > > case, adv(4) supports mostly ancient Advansys SCSI host adapters. > > The > > manpage has a full list of the various model numbers, etc. > > Yes, that is what I thought. Right now, I am just commenting them out, > now I know what people mean when they say they are running a > trimmed/clean kernel. > > I did see one potential issue... > > # USB support > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) > device usb # USB Bus (required) > > I see all of these with nodevice lines in the PAE file. Although I have > USB ports, I don't use them, but I was concerned by the 'required' on > the last one, is it OK to remove? Also, would I then need to disable USB > in the BIOS to avoid errors? Actually, USB is ok with PAE. I recently updated the PAE configs to not disable PAE and at work we've run PAE kernels with USB enabled for a few years now on 6.x w/o any problems. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 20:46:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F891065674 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@hivelocity.net) Received: from mail.hivelocity.net (mail.hivelocity.net [66.96.80.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3C4F8FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@hivelocity.net) Received: (qmail 19726 invoked by uid 399); 21 Oct 2008 16:20:16 -0400 X-Virus-Scan: Scanned by ClamAV 0.90.3 (no viruses); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:20:16 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO Stevelaptop) (steve@hivelocity.net@66.232.104.245) by mail.hivelocity.net with ESMTP; 21 Oct 2008 16:20:16 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 66.232.104.245 From: "Steve Eschweiler" To: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:20:16 -0400 Message-ID: <048701c933ba$6f1dd710$4d598530$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ackzuluq9x1eVlLtTLOnSKzXw3U8XA== Content-Language: en-us X-PCToolsMIME: Updated by PC Tools Mime Parser 1.0.0.4 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:38:42 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: mirror site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:46:57 -0000 Hello, I am very interested in any mirror site opportunities you have. Hivelocity would be interested in providing a server(s) to FreeBSD. Please let me know what to do from here. Thanks Steve Eschweiler General Manager steve@hivelocity.net 888 869 4678 ext 224 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.10950 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 21:42:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4898B1065671 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5A48FC25 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VUsK1a01t0QkzPwA2ZirrV; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VZip1a00d2P6wsM8NZiqzv; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=2WpR2VHnGOmrigCqMfwA:9 a=ZUs__VUvxKQwDQnDyyr5oYs-Q9wA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C739BC9432; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:42:49 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Steve Eschweiler Message-ID: <20081021214249.GA41253@icarus.home.lan> References: <048701c933ba$6f1dd710$4d598530$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <048701c933ba$6f1dd710$4d598530$@net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mirror site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:20:16PM -0400, Steve Eschweiler wrote: > I am very interested in any mirror site opportunities you have. Hivelocity > would be interested in providing a server(s) to FreeBSD. Please let me know > what to do from here. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/ should have all of the necessary details, including who you should contact (not -questions). :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 22:19:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C67B1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C618FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so84262fgb.35 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:19:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=N1RunFSAt9JNvisNbKnEcClJ4na0n9aTxEo8hFRM9kM=; b=JaTgfULLJfulN85Dz0hhzW+Pckm6v/ap1Qf5BXDTRQXSq/QhROCEhBxE+JCs7297NR +DPa2v/imowUxsm8BqJJk2t8QufxphPLJSvwKDrdqtvxl0OHun5+eKumhWUFnYjp+AWY WFNh2Ku14liR78DSUZElKoj1MmuNVWl1jDFPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=M0+f28fFCskVvaJXNTkbepGXRIdYELSyyu1fq1nu6Zfa6F/TbXM/TlEWpLEqPGurft UgcIHG29Emb+2rhUrZg2m7rxLUK0Wx1fl1QM6VkfY6EE1aYNR+nNUeeOSiOhLCU90WUY J0TRgUZ9WNX03WnCXiVjeNQ2DSCg1OwKNRgVs= Received: by 10.86.31.18 with SMTP id e18mr212246fge.52.1224627571355; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810211519s27e77ed1p4ab1b67ec6087d70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:19:31 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "Boris Samorodov" In-Reply-To: <38095920@ipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <38095920@ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: luizbcampos , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: downloading linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:19:33 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:49:01 -0200 luizbcampos wrote: > > > After I had tried to download linux_base-fc4 I got file > > unavailable not found no access...I need to put my printer to work! > > You may try to use packages: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html > > > What`s the matter? > > You didn't show any diagnostics (exact commands, exact output, etc.) > so it's hard to say anything. > > > WBR > -- > bsam > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > the problem with the port your installing is that it takes 5 mirrors or so to even find .rpms that even work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 23:21:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F5A10656C0 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B73A8FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 91504 invoked by uid 89); 21 Oct 2008 23:21:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 21 Oct 2008 23:21:55 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5C58A1145@identry.com> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> <51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5C58A1145@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <33DD5BC0-7D57-4530-BB59-46E2D7A43F1A@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:21:53 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:21:56 -0000 > Now I just need to figure out how to start it on reboot, but that > is something I've been meaning to learn, anyway, so I don't mind. I hope you guys will bear with me just a little more... I have spent the day trying to figure out how to create an rc script for autossh. Very cool, and not as hard as I'd anticipated. It is attached below. The script works perfectly *iff* I run it from the command line as a non-root user, like so: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/autossh start However, it does NOT work when executed by root. Instead, I get the following error message in /var/log/messages messages:Oct 21 19:01:38 on autossh[89267]: ssh exited prematurely with status 255; autossh exiting So (my understanding), autossh is starting, and tries to create the tunnel, but the tunnel creation fails with the unhelpful 255 error message. But only when executed by root. That's the puzzling part. I don't allow root logins on this server, but don't see how that could cause this problem.... I'm stumped. Any hints, much appreciated. -- John ---------------------- #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: autossh # REQUIRE: LOGIN # KEYWORD: shutdown . /etc/rc.subr name="autossh" rcvar=`set_rcvar` start_cmd="${name}_start" stop_cmd=":" load_rc_config $name eval "${rcvar}=\${${rcvar}:='NO'}" command="/usr/local/bin/autossh" command_args="-M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@example.com" #pidfile="/var/run/autossh.pid" #AUTOSSH_PIDFILE="$pidfile"; export AUTOSSH_PIDFILE autossh_start() { ${command} ${command_args} echo "started autossh" } run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 23:57:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA4E106567B for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from outbound05.telus.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385CF8FC22 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081021235726.EHW25082.priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:57:26 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 0AB53B00382FB0DE; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:57:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7D6646B; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FE6C64.7060606@telus.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:57:24 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: c.kworr@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:57:28 -0000 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > I have some setups were gjournal was put on device rather the on > partition, i.e.: > > [umgah] ~> gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/umgah0 COMPLETE ad0 > ad1 > [umgah] ~> gjournal status > Name Status Components > mirror/umgah0.journal N/A mirror/umgah0 > [umgah] ~> glabel status > Name Status Components > ufs/umgah0root N/A mirror/umgah0.journala > label/umgah0swap N/A mirror/umgah0.journalb > ufs/umgah0usr N/A mirror/umgah0.journald > ufs/umgah0var N/A mirror/umgah0.journale Does the above suggest that you've ended up with individual journal providers for each partition anyway? If so, where are they and have you really achieved anything functionally different? Are they at the end of their individually associated partitions or all together somewhere else? Has the ill-advised journaled small partition issue been successfully overcome through what you've done? > [umgah] ~> mount > /dev/ufs/umgah0root on / (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/md0 on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local) > /dev/ufs/umgah0var on /var (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) > /dev/ufs/umgah0usr on /usr (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) > devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) > > And yes, mirror autosynchronization is turned off, gjournal takes care > of that too. > > It's not stated in manual, but gjournal is typically transparent for any > type of access, just in case of UFS file system is marked as journaled > so any metadata writes can be distinguished from data writes. Without > that gjournal does literally nothing. And what does this mean for your swap partition? Laszlo Nagy wrote earlier: > Another tricky question: why would you journal a SWAP partition? Volodymyr, does your assertion that gjournal does nothing when a file system is not UFS mean that there is no penalty with regard to your swap partition despite the existence of "mirror/umgah0.journalb"? Any chance you'd like to share your command sequence for constructing your gmirror'd and gjournal'd filesystem, Volodymyr? :-) Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 00:10:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B541065675 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E69D8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.107.37] (c80-217-107-37.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.107.37]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9M0AkNR046402; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:10:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <48FE6F87.5070906@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:10:47 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: knews (FreeBSD-7.0p3-AMD64) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:10:51 -0000 John Almberg said the following on 2008-09-23 15:54: > I have two FreeBSD machines. One is a application server, the other a > database server running mysql. These machines are in two different > locations. I'd like to allow the application server to access mysql > through an SSH tunnel. > > Being a newbie admin, I've never set up an SSH tunnel. I've been reading > about them all morning and (as always) there seems to be more than one > way to skin this cat. > > I'm looking for ease of set up and maintenance, as well as security > (which I assume is a given.) I'd prefer NOT to have to recompile the > kernels (pure cowardice... the application server is a production server > that I don't want to experiment with.) Both servers have OpenSSL. > > Any recommendations, much appreciated. Maybe this can bee of interest. http://www.stunnel.org/examples/mysql.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 00:15:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017AE1065670 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from outbound03.telus.net (outbound03.telus.net [199.185.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56F58FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net ([75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTP id <20081022001457.UPGI29980.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:14:57 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 0D472B333C1F05DE; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:15:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8090646B; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:15:25 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:15:29 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Andrew Falanga wrote: >> Identical drive models so their sizes are the same. Is this the >> command, from gmirror(8), the one I'll want to use? >> >> Create a mirror on disk with valid data (note that the last sector of the >> disk will be overwritten). Add another disk to this mirror, so it will >> be synchronized with existing disk: >> >> gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0 > > add -s like -s 1048576 to prevent splitting one request > on 2 disks. I thought the -s option was only applicable when using "-b split" for the balancing algorithm. Does "round-robin" not mean simply alternating between the two disks without ever splitting requests? What are the considerations in choosing between "load", "prefer", "round-robin", and "split" balance algorithms? Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 00:25:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B16F106566C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: from viefep26-int.chello.at (viefep26-int.chello.at [62.179.121.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE008FC1F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: from edge05.upc.biz ([192.168.13.212]) by viefep14-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTP id <20081022000823.XWNB5683.viefep14-int.chello.at@edge05.upc.biz>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:08:23 +0200 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net ([84.114.137.224]) by edge05.upc.biz with edge id Vc8M1a00c4qgHo405c8Nme; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:08:23 +0200 X-SourceIP: 84.114.137.224 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:08:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: 9K^F42eGrHAbAe?%/Jn(.sAeg9d{Ur6`x<[+LZ46Plx#sTFr]9_>|#(?~v6X,=?utf-8?q?2=7EBeL=23=3A7kxV8=23s=3BUP=0A=09=7C?=>X.=B,VvQ"}!^Zb}AGD:Um.+; P=%U6W Cc: luizbcampos Subject: Re: downloading linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:25:01 -0000 On Tuesday 21 October 2008, luizbcampos wrote: > After I had tried to download linux_base-fc4 I got file > unavailable not found no access...I need to put my printer to work! > What`s the matter? Please read http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/128160 You can set MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX to the URL of the archive-site: # make install \ MASTER_SITE_FEDORA_LINUX="http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/%SUBDIR%/" Cheers, ch > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x1A9BE943 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 01:31:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F451065671 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33AB8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0B919D0D; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:14:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from [10.0.10.11] (tau.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48FE7E7A.2010509@cran.org.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:14:34 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Robillard References: <226ae0c60810210918xbd221c3q5a0926df66b2aa6f@mail.gmail.com> <608552.36336.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <226ae0c60810211320q47286a73qed76d44f76021f13@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <226ae0c60810211320q47286a73qed76d44f76021f13@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , gerardon_paredes@yahoo.com Subject: Re: High Performance Computing Mini-Cluster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:31:52 -0000 David Robillard wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Gerardo Paredes > wrote: > >> From what i have read, Matt Olander and Brooks Davis are the foremost experts at cluster building on FreeBSD. However i believe a document needs to be written explaining in detailed steps how to do it, so the common user can do it. Obviously not every "common" man needs a cluster. >> >> In my case i am pitching the project of a big cluster to our University here in Honduras to run some kinds of apps we have, like a Trade Exchange Market Simulation written in Python we have about two years developing which we plan to run distributed across the cluster. >> >> >> Since I cannot attend that seminar, i will be expecting for at least the presentation to be posted. >> > > Actually, this was a presentation I attended last year. So the slides > already exist. You can also grab their old paper at > http://people.freebsd.org/~brooks/papers/bsdcon2003/ but this is a bit > out-dated. > > My advice would be to try and contact Mr. Brooks Davis directly. If > you can't find him, try and send an email to the organisers of BSDCan > from http://www.bsdcan.org/2008/contact.php. I believe you should talk > to Dan Langille on the BSDCan commitee > http://www.bsdcan.org/2008/committee.php > > Good luck and have fun! Your project seems quite interesting :) > > David > It seems the same presentation was given at AsiaBSDCon 2007: it's linked to from http://2007.asiabsdcon.org/papers/index.html The slides are at http://2007.asiabsdcon.org/papers/P02-slides.pdf and the paper is at http://2007.asiabsdcon.org/papers/P02-paper.pdf -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 05:06:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A2D106567B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BF18FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsVvO-0008AU-HO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:26 +0000 Received: from hexadecagram.org ([166.70.126.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:26 +0000 Received: from acc by hexadecagram.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anthony Chavez Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:06:07 -0600 Lines: 57 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hexadecagram.org User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) Sender: news Subject: UFS2 or ZFS for 3TB disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:30 -0000 The subject says it all. I will soon be installing an Areca ARC-1110 and 3x 1.5TB Seagate Barracuda SATAs into a 3.2GHz Northwood P4 with 1GB of RAM, and I'm wondering which would be the most stable filesystem to use. I've read the bigdisk page [1] and the various information about ZFS on the FreeBSD Wiki [2]. I'm aware of the tuning requirements that ZFS requires, and upgrading to 4GB of RAM would be quite possible as it was understood beforehand that ZFS requires a large quantity of it. My questions are as follows. 1. I'm aware of the fact that ZFS works better on 64-bit platforms, and that alone has me thinking that it's not a good fit for this particular machine. But apart from that, it seems that ZFS is not yet stable enough for my environment (only about 25 users but in production nonetheless). To me, [3] paints all sorts of ugly pictures, which can be summarized as "count on ZFS-related panics and deadlocks happening fairly regularly" and "disabling ZIL in the interest of stability will put your data at risk." Comments about live systems using ZFS (on 7.0-RELEASE or 7-STABLE) would be appreciated. 2. [1] appears to be a bit dated. Nevertheless, I'm inclined to think that the status described there (as well as in various man pages) still applies to UFS2 on 7.0-RELEASE. Please correct me if I'm wrong or let me know if the state of affairs has improved significantly in 7-STABLE. 2a. Does the information contained in [1] apply to ZFS as well? 3. As the array will be for data only and not be booted, will it be possible to use fdisk to slice it up, or will I need to use gpt? 4. My planned course of action will be to attempt to newfs the device itself (da0, all 3TB of it) or 1 full-disk slice (da0s1). Failing that, I will attempt to gconcat da0s1 and da0s2 (1.5TB each), although I suspect that may not work since for one thing, growfs is not yet 64-bit clean. In either case, I'm very interested in using gbde/geli to encrypt the fs. If either of these paths are not possible or recommended, are there any suggestions for alternate means of creating a 3TB fs? 4a. If gconcat'ing 2 slices together (or some other suggetion) will in fact work, would doing so effectively work around the userland tool incompatibilities mentioned in [1]? Thank you! [1] http://freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk [2] http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSKnownProblems -- Anthony Chavez http://hexadecagram.org/ mailto:acc@hexadecagram.org xmpp:acc@hexadecagram.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 05:35:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8D81065683 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83B38FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VdW21a0010FhH24A3hbnX1; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:35:47 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Vhbl1a00J2P6wsM8UhbmWH; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:35:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=quzWZ-RWUDyiXxjVbL4A:9 a=jrrQAfUEdi3uCYP9G2YA:7 a=vrHdybAb9OFAw7tsqOSIdcX82tsA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F298C9432; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:35:45 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Anthony Chavez Message-ID: <20081022053545.GA49412@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 or ZFS for 3TB disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:35:48 -0000 On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:06:07PM -0600, Anthony Chavez wrote: > The subject says it all. > > I will soon be installing an Areca ARC-1110 and 3x 1.5TB Seagate > Barracuda SATAs into a 3.2GHz Northwood P4 with 1GB of RAM, and I'm > wondering which would be the most stable filesystem to use. > > I've read the bigdisk page [1] and the various information about ZFS on > the FreeBSD Wiki [2]. I'm aware of the tuning requirements that ZFS > requires, and upgrading to 4GB of RAM would be quite possible as it was > understood beforehand that ZFS requires a large quantity of it. The official Solaris ZFS Wiki answers this question. The "I really don't want to this to get pedantic" answer is: caching. > 1. I'm aware of the fact that ZFS works better on 64-bit platforms, and > that alone has me thinking that it's not a good fit for this particular > machine. But apart from that, it seems that ZFS is not yet stable > enough for my environment (only about 25 users but in production > nonetheless). To me, [3] paints all sorts of ugly pictures, which can > be summarized as "count on ZFS-related panics and deadlocks happening > fairly regularly" and "disabling ZIL in the interest of stability will > put your data at risk." Comments about live systems using ZFS (on > 7.0-RELEASE or 7-STABLE) would be appreciated. You should review the past 3-4 months of freebsd-fs and freebsd-stable mailing list posts. Stabilising ZFS has been thoroughly discussed there. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/ http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/ To date I've only heard of one person having to disable the ZIL to get stability on RELENG_7. Everyone else has followed the "standard" tuning procedures, which is to tune kmem_size, kmem_size_max, arc_min, and arc_max. prefetch_disable being set can also help performance-wise (many of us find that disabling prefetching provides less "stalls" or interruptions during extreme disk I/O). Remember that kmem_size and kmem_size_max cannot be increased past 2GB (and you should NOT set them to 2048M!) on RELENG_7 (i386 and amd64). If you want more memory made available to the kernel, you'll need to run CURRENT. None of this affects userland. What you need to keep in mind is that you need to tune things to get ZFS stable on RELENG_7, and you will need to keep tune it if you experience panics relating to ZFS or kmem exhaustion. The way to avoid panics is to start with something very restrictive (I advocate 1536M for kmem_size and kmem_size_max, 16M for arc_min, and 64M of arc_max, on a machine with 2GB of RAM), and then gradually increase arc_max by ~16M increments. You cannot tune this, reboot, let it run for 24 hours and go "IT WORKS!!!!!!!!". You will need to seriously test this over a period of many days, if not weeks. Each person's environment is slightly different, and it depends greatly upon the type of data being accessed, how often, and what sort of workload. There is no "standard". I use ZFS to manage a raidz1 zpool across 4 500GB disks (all SATA) on my home machine, which gets thrashed pretty hard due to the content sizes (500-600MB files). This machine has 2GB of RAM, and runs amd64. I also use it in my co-lo as a replacement for /home and on another machine to be used for backups (rsnapshot+rsync across ssh, results stored on a ZFS filesystem). This machine has 2GB of RAM, and runs i386. The "it works better on amd64 platforms" is true, but there is absolutely nothing that stops you from using it on i386. You should feel confident using it on both. If you really want to know of the performance difference of ZFS on amd64 vs. i386, assuming Google has nothing, you might ask pjd@ directly. I think the general deal is that ZFS was developed with 64-bit pointers and 64-bit values in mind, and while those are not entirely available on x86 (sans MMX/SSE/SSE2/SSE3 registers) without a bit more work, "long long" on i386 works fine. IMHO, you should be using ZFS for what you want to accomplish. If you do go the UFS2 route, I would recommend you set background_fsck="no" in your rc.conf, especially since it's obvious data integrity matters a lot to you (but then again, if it does matter that much, ZFS's checksum ability should trump your interest in UFS2 entirely). That's really all I'm going to say on the matter. (Sorry if that sounds rude, I'm just incredibly scared that my above comments will induce some pedantic flame war or battle of sort, which is not my intention.) > [1] http://freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk > [2] http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS > [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSKnownProblems -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 05:39:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4A51065699 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF5E8FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D30130D7E for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:39:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BBFE11895 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:39:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6655411895 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:39:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.18] (chs77-1-82-238-8-126.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.8.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C873E8B81 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:38:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FEBC66.5070309@esiee.fr> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:38:46 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: open-iscsi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:39:03 -0000 Hello Does open-iscsi has been ported to FreeBSD at 7.x ? it doesn't seems to be at 6.x thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 08:02:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EC5106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D408FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB7EF4D7E7C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:02:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [84.161.81.184] (helo=[192.168.6.130]) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KsYff-0005zA-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:02:23 +0200 Message-ID: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:02:22 +0200 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080930) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+MtUnGIPNPLI7v984944Jx2UGJoaQ/GQN1Ci+Q klMs+g4K/lce23LavJWDs6et3u8+r3xt6i5jrzElxT3IfuuWTK icuRNK4qg= Subject: calendar software wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:02:25 -0000 hello list, anybody has experience with calendar software which runs on freebsd. i maybe would integrate it also in thunderbird/mutt,but thats not necessary, or use a stand alone software. minimum requirements to the software would be making entries, getting alarms for appointments. thank you for responses, marco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 08:10:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D244106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7588FC29 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-19-214-240.bna.bellsouth.net[68.19.214.240]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20081022081054H0100k5nsle>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:10:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.19.214.240] Message-ID: <48FEE004.7070602@datapipe.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:10:44 -0500 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco References: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> In-Reply-To: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calendar software wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:10:55 -0000 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/ Marco wrote: > hello list, > > anybody has experience with calendar software which runs on freebsd. i > maybe would integrate it also in thunderbird/mutt,but thats not > necessary, or use a stand alone software. > minimum requirements to the software would be making entries, getting > alarms for appointments. > > thank you for responses, > marco > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 08:27:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2164B106567A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1B08FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m9M8S3Xm004996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:28:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48FEE3F1.1090601@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:27:29 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Bonnet References: <48FEBC66.5070309@esiee.fr> In-Reply-To: <48FEBC66.5070309@esiee.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open-iscsi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:27:33 -0000 Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > Does open-iscsi has been ported to FreeBSD at 7.x ? > it doesn't seems to be at 6.x > > Seems to be a linux specific implementation of iscsi and gnu licenced so no we dont. However we have iscsi_initiator(4) in 7.x see the man pages for details. For a iscsi target daemon see net/iscsi-target in ports. Vince > thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 08:37:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1077E106566C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227A8FC24 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1524599wag.27 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.170.2 with SMTP id s2mr7247058wae.170.1224662791595; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.14.20 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:06:31 +0600 From: "Aftab Jahan Subedar" Sender: jahan@bol-online.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.77] References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 46f080b54b74f983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: cvsup to 7.0 from 5.5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:37:46 -0000 On 10/22/08, Chris Pratt wrote: > > How risky is it to jump directly to 7.0 on a 5.5 system? > Upgrade would be by cvsup. I expect mergemaster > issues anyway but this system is relatively vanilla in > it's configuration. It's duty is just rsyncing other servers. > The kernel is GENERIC minus drivers plus ipfw and there are > no kldloads. Can this jump be made? I was hoping to avoid > having to make two major release jumps by doing only one. > > Thanks > Not really a bed of roses. Its a thorny road. You will stumble with packages then gcc version then make.conf then cvsup itself. Cannot really remember exact thorny issues but I can tell that it is not straight path. Rather Install 7.0 directly then migrate the data. -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801191336608 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 09:23:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23871065673 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vmail@lists.ukgrid.net) Received: from alpha.ukgrid.net (lists.manap.net [85.159.60.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2998FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vmail@lists.ukgrid.net) Received: from vmail by alpha.ukgrid.net with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KsZvk-0007Ut-J0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:23:04 +0100 From: "andys" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:23:04 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: VMail virtual user Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:23:05 -0000 Hi, ok, so I have attempted to proceed with my original task which was to create a new UFS2 parition (using sysinstall). Having chosen "c" and then "w" from the lable section, i recieve the following error: Error mounting /dev/da0s1g on /export : No such file or directory After exiting sysinstall, I can see from bsdlabel: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 b: 20971520 75497472 swap c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 0 0 0 e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 0 0 0 f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 0 0 0 g: 146800640 96468992 4.2BSD 0 0 0 bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! "g" is my new partition. Under /dev however I dont see the device file: ls /dev/da0* /dev/da0 /dev/da0s1a /dev/da0s1c /dev/da0s1e /dev/da0s1 /dev/da0s1b /dev/da0s1d /dev/da0s1f Can anyone help :( thanks a lot, Andy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 09:57:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC45106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ip@doom.ctinet.ru) Received: from hosting.ctinet.ru (hosting.ctinet.ru [213.159.69.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B548FC33 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ip@doom.ctinet.ru) Received: from doom.ctinet.ru (doom.ctinet.ru [213.159.64.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by hosting.ctinet.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9M9cYwU057545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:38:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ip@doom.ctinet.ru) Received: from doom.ctinet.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by doom.ctinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9M9cXFV051505 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:38:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ip@doom.ctinet.ru) Received: (from ip@localhost) by doom.ctinet.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9M9cXUk051504 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:38:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ip) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:38:33 +0400 From: Igor Pokrovsky To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081022093833.GA51378@doom.ctinet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: sendmail ldap_routing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:57:43 -0000 Hi all, First of all I must apologize for off topic, I havent found any better place to ask this question. I'm using ldap routing feature with sendmail. Some days ago I decided to use a 'sendertoo' flag for ldap_routing in order to check senders against routing database as well as recepients. However it doesn't work for me off box. While tracing rules with -bt switch I found a strange thing - LDAP is not asked on 'mail from:' stage at all. It is used only on 'rcpt to:' stage. So my question is, does anybody using 'sendertoo' option succefully and if so what am I missing here. Thanks in advance for any possible points. PS: Please CC me, since I'm not subscribed to this list. -ip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 11:08:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C7E106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0061.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609978FC20 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay04.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 63F3C2632F9F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:27 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 0e628b0141742273, 9510f55e4507d164, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:599:601:960:966:967:973:980:988:989:1042:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:1981:2196:2199:2393:2525:2552:2553:2559:2563:2682:2685:2689:2693:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:4250:4321:4362:4385:4860:5007:6114:6119:7652:7679:7903:8501:9010:9025, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf13.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Pratt Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:08:16 -0700 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Subject: Re: cvsup to 7.0 from 5.5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:29 -0000 On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: > On 10/22/08, Chris Pratt wrote: >> >> How risky is it to jump directly to 7.0 on a 5.5 system? >> Upgrade would be by cvsup. I expect mergemaster >> issues anyway but this system is relatively vanilla in >> it's configuration. It's duty is just rsyncing other servers. >> The kernel is GENERIC minus drivers plus ipfw and there are >> no kldloads. Can this jump be made? I was hoping to avoid >> having to make two major release jumps by doing only one. >> >> Thanks >> > > Not really a bed of roses. > Its a thorny road. You will stumble with packages then gcc version > then > make.conf then cvsup itself. > > Cannot really remember exact thorny issues but I can tell that it > is not > straight path. Rather Install 7.0 directly then migrate the data. > Thanks for the time to respond. That was enough for me. I'm half-way to a 6.3 installation, then will take it to 7.0. It's surprising that I could find no specifics of the issues, only references that it wasn't a good idea. > > -- > Aftab Jahan Subedar > CEO/Software Engineer > Subedar Technologies Ltd > Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 > North Jatra Bari > Dhaka 1204 > Bangladesh > 88027554546 > 8801552635208 > 8801191336608 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 11:20:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B742C1065672 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LSwanepoel@mweb.com) Received: from MWMAIL01.mweb.com (mwmail01.mweb.com [196.2.49.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB338FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LSwanepoel@mweb.com) Received: from mwmx4.mweb.com (Not Verified[196.2.49.51]) by MWMAIL01.mweb.com with MailMarshal (v6, 4, 1, 5038) id ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:04:55 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:04:52 +0200 Message-ID: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Errors found in Freebsd Thread-Index: Ack0NgI/JWlu7NcgT6m8QEX2j2t6tg== From: "Leon Swanepoel - MWEB" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Errors found in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:20:20 -0000 Good day, =20 Firstly I like to say that I believe the developers are doing a standup job and that Freebsd is but the best of the best. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 11:23:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C698B10656A3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numisemis@yahoo.com) Received: from web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 824188FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numisemis@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26267 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Oct 2008 10:56:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fo+Cnvf6U/zM8ghx3mj9D+oZakQtHYgky4HPL0p/vu4s3tyjuR6eD5gnd2QCLH92rtDUccFWRQToHNKnpee7pyhqypQqysljkf2i0scE/JxEb51MTTa2FxI5KVw7KhzzTqijiQ12cnst6M2mVvB/80plrp0HLMDf6HztjGBfoKM=; X-YMail-OSG: a3LPBGAVM1l0tvny.AtE6Yusx751dHtzvC4yDvIpSAuszzT.0gnbDgXzqHg2uNPFZ.PcgiHKtegU7R9gbs9yfPf2iDSnE0iUtc4gEGB8mHNNZyfD_Ut50PR.cJJdFYmR4ZHg3kycqQpuUjjSmbJWP5JQSHj3NvSxin85gebB Received: from [213.147.110.159] by web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:56:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Simun Mikecin To: Anthony Chavez MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <207982.25549.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: numisemis@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:23:34 -0000 > I will soon be installing an Areca ARC-1110 and 3x 1.5TB Seagate > Barracuda SATAs into a 3.2GHz Northwood P4 with 1GB of RAM, and I'm > wondering which would be the most stable filesystem to use. > I've read the bigdisk page [1] and the various information about ZFS on > the FreeBSD Wiki [2]. I'm aware of the tuning requirements that ZFS > requires, and upgrading to 4GB of RAM would be quite possible as it was > understood beforehand that ZFS requires a large quantity of it. > My questions are as follows. > 1. I'm aware of the fact that ZFS works better on 64-bit platforms, and > that alone has me thinking that it's not a good fit for this particular > machine. But apart from that, it seems that ZFS is not yet stable > enough for my environment (only about 25 users but in production > nonetheless). To me, [3] paints all sorts of ugly pictures, which can > be summarized as "count on ZFS-related panics and deadlocks happening > fairly regularly" and "disabling ZIL in the interest of stability will > put your data at risk." Comments about live systems using ZFS (on > 7.0-RELEASE or 7-STABLE) would be appreciated. I'm using 7.0-RELEASE/amd64 with ZFS on several machines without any stability problems. Here are the configs (prefetch is disabled for performance reasons): - with 1GB RAM (probably with just 1GB RAM system would be faster using UFS2 instead of ZFS) vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1 vm.kmem_size="512M" vfs.zfs.arc_max="150M" (at first it was 200M, but lots of swapping made me reduce it) - with 2GB RAM: vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1 vm.kmem_size="950M" (could be higher, even 1536M, but then there is not much RAM left for your apps) - with 8GB RAM: vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1 vm.kmem_size="1536M" (this could probably be higher: up to 2047M, but I haven't tried it). General rule to make it stable is to make the difference between vm.kmem_size and vfs.zfs.arc_max larger. vfs.zfs.arc_max is by default 3/4 of vm.kmem_size. You can achieve it by making vm.kmem_size bigger (but this leaves less memory for your applications) or reducing vfs.zfs.arc_max (but this reduces performance, since less memory will be available for caching). Problem with stability comes when kmem usage is at it's peak. arc_max is just a value after some of it will be deleted. But in some cases (high I/O activity) it will grow faster than the thread that reduces it (to a size less than arc_max) can delete. > 2. [1] appears to be a bit dated. Nevertheless, I'm inclined to think > that the status described there (as well as in various man pages) still > applies to UFS2 on 7.0-RELEASE. Please correct me if I'm wrong or let > me know if the state of affairs has improved significantly in 7-STABLE. > 2a. Does the information contained in [1] apply to ZFS as well? [1] is outdated. GEOM, GPT, UFS2 and ZFS are safe to use for many hundreds of terabytes. What is limited is MBR partitioning used by fdisk (2TB limit). > 3. As the array will be for data only and not be booted, will it be > possible to use fdisk to slice it up, or will I need to use gpt? fdisk can be used for slicing for disks that are up to 2TB. But I would recomment to use GPT (which doesn't have this limit) instead. There is no reason not to. > 4. My planned course of action will be to attempt to newfs the device > itself (da0, all 3TB of it) or 1 full-disk slice (da0s1). Failing that, > I will attempt to gconcat da0s1 and da0s2 (1.5TB each), although I > suspect that may not work since for one thing, growfs is not yet 64-bit > clean. In either case, I'm very interested in using gbde/geli to > encrypt the fs. If either of these paths are not possible or > recommended, are there any suggestions for alternate means of creating a > 3TB fs? If you will go for the ZFS route instead of UFS2 then don't make one logical array from your disks (da0) in your RAID controller, but instead make one logical array to be one phisical disk (so you have da0, da1 and da2) so you can use ZFS RAID functionality instead. If you are going to use UFS2 then you must use gjournal for disks of that size (or you will have background fscks that can last for ages and die a horrible death saying not enough memory). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 11:53:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386C810656C1 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+26=a56e0640@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFE18FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+26=a56e0640@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8091646EF for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA0ED05A6 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:41:39 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081022124139.473da181@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <87hc75pzcm.fsf@chateau.d.lf> References: <87hc75pzcm.fsf@chateau.d.lf> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Using packages compiled for 7.0-RELEASE in 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:53:13 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:09:05 +0530 wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla ____________ _______________) wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having a confusion about installing packages compiled in > 7.0-RELEASE in 8.0-CURRENT. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 11:53:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5661065680 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12C8FC30 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBEB130DD3; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AC1827BF7; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from privftp.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2471327BF7; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by privftp.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD7BE3981A; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48FF143F.3010201@esiee.fr> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:53:35 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Hoffman References: <48FEBC66.5070309@esiee.fr> <48FEE3F1.1090601@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48FEE3F1.1090601@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: open-iscsi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:53:37 -0000 Vincent Hoffman wrote: > Frank Bonnet wrote: >> Hello >> >> Does open-iscsi has been ported to FreeBSD at 7.x ? >> it doesn't seems to be at 6.x >> >> > Seems to be a linux specific implementation of iscsi and gnu licenced so > no we dont. However we have iscsi_initiator(4) in 7.x see the man pages > for details. > For a iscsi target daemon see net/iscsi-target in ports. > > Vince Thanks I'm gonna check those ports. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 12:51:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47742106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59B78FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so560244yxb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:51:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=nZO12H1oQlnQ23FTa0mb7iDXcuHPm4ZfDUDh1gL9qtQ=; b=vyt5Eyq4BKngB0KsxvKpD6cA+7xMgwe0wpaHFzxubSNdqGmRIRZ3QJAHefgq8ra4nw Vgf87O9XFJ6Mn2YtF+nSEWBjQEX9aBVUwQNe3ESNkIx6YBvSGdPHRwGULt54xZHy3kFQ XZbZbmYY+4z+/zM1upQEulQn74UhDw2moW+Ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tX9Q+AuoTzx+6/vpj+jc9xW7o6YREbeZEs34f92JGka4Kj2nsE7MK+XVuJVYvPuytW ntrYnE1oN3EmekdPBKAbCK8q2FC+ZmOzQN3AVE+LctjQ8Nkhjrp2CNsH395erctQY0YC uh6A+99J/uBh++T8oOqc6ZO1WlU1G4Q//NCGo= Received: by 10.64.184.18 with SMTP id h18mr8137035qbf.39.1224679903004; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.235.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35f70db10810220551y718ab4dep3f589b1c979d848a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:51:42 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: "Leon Swanepoel - MWEB" In-Reply-To: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7af38169d28c25c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Errors found in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:51:45 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Leon Swanepoel - MWEB wrote: > Firstly I like to say that I believe the developers are doing a standup > job and that Freebsd is but the best of the best. I have however one > little problem. There is an issue with Broadcom nic (bge) on the dell > 2650 machines that are constantly running Ierrs. The bce,em,xl or any > other card connected to a server patched to the same switch has no > errors only that card. I have logged a fault on your site for this > already but I have received no response and it has been quite some time. > Is there anyone I can contact in this regard? I'm assuming that you aren't a regular member of this list, before anyone can help you we need the following: 1) What version of FreeBSD are you running? (uname -a) 2) What EXACT model of Dell server are you working with here? (The words "Oh hell its a Dell" come to mind) 3) We need a hardware spec. dump from this machine. (dmesg) 4) Mail me off list I'm in Sandton and might be able to help. Note: Logging a "fault" on the website will liably get you no response without items 1 -> 3. FreeBSD, much like most OpenSource UNIX-like OSs, is not a commercial product and you are not a paying customer, therefor you need to take part in the community when things like this happen. PS: I'm not trying to be confrontational, even if I looks like I might be, just trying to make any further activities on this list as enjoyable and productive as possible for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 13:30:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC42106566B; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4259C8FC1D; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9MDUJb1002217; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:30:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9MDUICL002214; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:30:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:30:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081022053545.GA49412@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081022152845.I2152@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081022053545.GA49412@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Anthony Chavez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 or ZFS for 3TB disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:30:26 -0000 . . lots of explanations how to make ZFS "stable" and usable deleted after reading. . . > > IMHO, you should be using ZFS for what you want to accomplish. If you > do go the UFS2 route, I would recommend you set background_fsck="no" in definitely yes. but UFS works fine on 10TB volume :) and works FAST. just use larger blocks and fragments (like 4-8K fragment) and reduce inode numbers - without this fsck will take REALLY long. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 13:31:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25561106567F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A28FC2C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9MDV2xS002247; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:31:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9MDV198002241; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:31:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:31:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Carl In-Reply-To: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> Message-ID: <20081022153034.L2152@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:31:07 -0000 >>> disk will be overwritten). Add another disk to this mirror, so it >>> will >>> be synchronized with existing disk: >>> >>> gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0 >> >> add -s like -s 1048576 to prevent splitting one request >> on 2 disks. > > I thought the -s option was only applicable when using "-b split" for the > balancing algorithm. Does "round-robin" not mean simply alternating between > the two disks without ever splitting requests? no. it means for example with -s 65536 and 1MB request - it will split this request on 2 disks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 13:32:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E31D1065672 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA048FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9MDWXC5002278; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:32:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9MDWWW9002275; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:32:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:32:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Leon Swanepoel - MWEB In-Reply-To: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> Message-ID: <20081022153129.V2152@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Errors found in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:32:38 -0000 > Good day, > > Firstly I like to say that I believe the developers are doing a standup > job and that Freebsd is but the best of the best. I have however one > little problem. There is an issue with Broadcom nic (bge) on the dell > 2650 machines that are constantly running Ierrs. The bce,em,xl or any > other card connected to a server patched to the same switch has no > errors only that card. I have logged a fault on your site for this > already but I have received no response and it has been quite some time. > Is there anyone I can contact in this regard? AUTHORS The bge driver was written by Bill Paul . on my machine bge runs fine, but i heard that some broadcom chip revisions are buggy. maybe it's yours, or maybe driver bug. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 13:34:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E259910656B7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello062178170039.13.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.170.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D618FC24 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from jadzia.intern.creative.co.at (fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.callooh.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9MDMGOG044354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:22:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) X-Authentication-Warning: lyekka.home.callooh.com: Host fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66] claimed to be jadzia.intern.creative.co.at Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:22:15 +0200 From: tequnix@frogmi.net To: Marco Message-ID: <20081022152215.2f0b1011@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> In-Reply-To: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> References: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-URT-Metrics: lyekka.home.callooh.com 1060; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8467/Wed Oct 22 04:32:13 2008 on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (mail.callooh.com [62.178.170.39]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:22:17 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calendar software wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:34:12 -0000 Am Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:02:22 +0200 schrieb Marco : > hello list, > > anybody has experience with calendar software which runs on freebsd. i > maybe would integrate it also in thunderbird/mutt,but thats not > necessary, or use a stand alone software. > minimum requirements to the software would be making entries, getting > alarms for appointments. > > thank you for responses, > marco > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" egroupware has a nice web-interface, and is also usable with lightning and sunbird .. it's in the ports (deskutils/egroupware) br, reinhard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 14:07:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BAF106567D for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4B88FC25 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 22 Oct 2008 09:40:38 -0400 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Leon Swanepoel - MWEB In-Reply-To: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> References: <172F0CFD3F7E1249899FF6D9D8F3314B1EE01C@mwmx4.mweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:40:38 -0400 Message-Id: <1224682838.7437.473.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Errors found in Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:07:21 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:04 +0200, Leon Swanepoel - MWEB wrote: > 2650 machines that are constantly running Ierrs. The bce,em,xl or any Yea -- call Dell and ask them why they started shipping crappy chips in the 9th gen. Probably to sell lots of PCI-E dual port addon cards, which is my suggestion to anyone who lives or dies by PowerEdge. -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 14:18:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74A61065680 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@coder.cl) Received: from mail01.ifxnetworks.com (mail01.ifxnetworks.com [190.61.128.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE578FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@coder.cl) Received: (qmail 27215 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2008 13:51:43 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail01.ifxnetworks.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=7.0 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (dmw@unete.cl@[200.42.162.216]) (envelope-sender ) by mail01.ifxnetworks.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 22 Oct 2008 13:51:42 -0000 Message-ID: <48FF2FDF.6000102@coder.cl> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:51:27 -0300 From: Daniel Molina Wegener Organization: http://coder.cl/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco References: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> In-Reply-To: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: calendar software wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@coder.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:18:25 -0000 Marco escribi=F3: > hello list, >=20 > anybody has experience with calendar software which runs on freebsd. i > maybe would integrate it also in thunderbird/mutt,but thats not > necessary, or use a stand alone software. > minimum requirements to the software would be making entries, getting > alarms for appointments. Try kontact (the kdepim port). Have fun xD >=20 > thank you for responses, > marco Regards, --=20 =2EO. | Daniel Molina Wegener | C/C++ Coder =2E.O | dmw [at] coder [dot] cl | FOSS Developer OOO | FreeBSD & Linux User | Standards Basis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 14:34:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE2D1065670 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B8E8FC39 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so7046462gxk.19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:34:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=i6gKCe6J4w80k9Sr5muqhhIpv2gKD/VKjiUC4cd+IpU=; b=oCPgwDobtUe4NQrFR/+JzGhTnLwny023JHwCmY0I7znsT1omrae9zbKsKMHhTHKUoa rXIZ0OLybjgz8uZDxHa9Z6owUCUMjGcTMENK+RqdFssR1wI/pj7c/rMlYqNkBv8HhOxh +N+Bwmb+A8lrOeFc/PGKZxq0ZUMVTXcopI278= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JRWiPD0YIXZiOS75d8oBzgHbn/H20RWdA0dPUg25EPdNmIXNtnorCH5TpV1AuxG/c0 /nxOqoStPFIqbbN9SDB4si8i8uvRd1s4eGPEreRb8MoNRTErB0qPM7KvFCOh5uHk7o69 yeB2u2MLVIHuYr94ZC9JAQ9u6ilHzTk3Y6s50= Received: by 10.114.150.1 with SMTP id x1mr7600127wad.71.1224686081816; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.9 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:34:43 -0000 I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in WAV format, or even MP3? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 14:41:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024041065671 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from fep9.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CE38FC20 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (d221-71-130.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.71.130]) by fep9.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DDF1014 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:09 -0400 From: Victor Farah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081022-0, 10/22/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: GCC help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:41:27 -0000 Hello I'm trying to install ffmpeg and I'm getting this message: "Compiler did not align stack variables. Libavcodec has been miscompiled and may be very slow or crash. This is not a bug in libavcodec, but in the compiler. You may try recompiling using gcc >= 4.2." Now gcc -v gives me: Using built-in specs. Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler Thread model: posix gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305 I was wondering how I would update gcc to version 4.2? I'm not sure I can just do a portupgrade gcc ?? I'm relatively new to freebsd any help would be appreciated! :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 14:54:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6349106567C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F22E58FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2008 14:54:23 -0000 Received: from pD952E0F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.224.240] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 22 Oct 2008 16:54:23 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18bWct7SjIbye8F5xEg3kDMT6QcP2xJdhyBqJZ/E0 HmPHXfYG9IMXuP Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:54:17 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: "Odhiambo Washington" Message-Id: <20081022165417.7e2ff7c3.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Wed__22_Oct_2008_16_54_17_+0200_K9aAhfgc2lRdfg4e" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:54:25 -0000 --Signature=_Wed__22_Oct_2008_16_54_17_+0200_K9aAhfgc2lRdfg4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300 "Odhiambo Washington" wrote: > player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in > WAV format, or even MP3? /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer /usr/ports/multimedia/mencoder /usr/ports/audio/lame ... Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Wed__22_Oct_2008_16_54_17_+0200_K9aAhfgc2lRdfg4e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj/PpwACgkQ8P3NNypXNWVOvACaA+PAiGaGGZk0eCv4fWqN6rt1 LxwAoLVN2JywKq2NE1jEAMGw5lcmLQG/ =5wfZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__22_Oct_2008_16_54_17_+0200_K9aAhfgc2lRdfg4e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 14:56:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0236F1065685 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75968FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ksf8P-0006EM-F8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:56:29 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ksf8O-000IbF-SG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:56:29 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:56:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: e589fc9fa86e1e92b564bcf197df2a87 Subject: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:56:33 -0000 FreeBSD curlew.lan 6.4-RC1 FreeBSD 6.4-RC1 #2: Sat Oct 18 23:08:47 BST 2008 root@curlew.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURLEW i386 I'm trying to upgrade phpMyAdmin from 2.11.5.2 to 3.0.0_1 but all attempts fail. If I try "make deinstall" I get the following result: ------------------------------------------------------------- curlew:/usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin# make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for databases/phpmyadmin ===> Deinstalling phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 Segmentation fault *** Error code 139 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. ------------------------------------------------------------- Things go wrong very early in the process, here's part of the output from truss: ------------------------------------------------------------- ===> Deinstalling for databases/phpmyadmin wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 7 (0x7) SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) sigreturn(0xbfbfdb00) = 7 (0x7) wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 1623 (0x657) vfork() = 1624 (0x658) ===> Deinstalling phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 Segmentation fault wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 7 (0x7) SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) sigreturn(0xbfbfdb00) = 7 (0x7) wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 1624 (0x658) fstat(1,{mode=crw------- ,inode=140,size=0,blksize=4096}) = 0 (0x0) ioctl(1,TIOCGETA,0xbfbfd700) = 0 (0x0) *** Error code 139 write(1,"*** Error code 139\n",19) = 19 (0x13) ------------------------------------------------------------- I've tried portsdb -uf and pkgdb with the F, L and u options but still no joy. I'm not sure if this is relevant but a while ago I deinstalled apache 1.3 and php 4 but forgot to deinstall phpMyAdmin. Today I installed apache 2.2 with php 5 and unsuccessfully tried to deinstall the old phpMyAdmin before doing this. Apache and php installed OK and the old phpMyAdmin works but really ought to be upgraded. I tried to deinstall phpMyAdmin again after installing the new packages but still have the same problem. What should I do to persuade the old version to go? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:13:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CABA1065681 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4627D8FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so581765yxb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:13:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=CL/psYaqyPTatjuWl0aKiQIEvbCxnsq7vLW5JwagPkY=; b=BSijYyipDn0SAiryJoxpcLORQ9G0fjGlOd8pdSo6Ef8HKE/nAG0eFbtahzti1/O68f s6noe7iv5L22c5+peiBMjFBj7GHksWA25OSo7h/dsgus3CSla9BTFAM+zTpi0nVnB3qI XVSUZLE3AWukJGc0dn5Abdg0ediz/0aupzRA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=nwBaP7BRkugW2qTJ0wCQm6uK++nsFyZwxRKlQ/HA0rsuejXVi7mXXcybZuuHC7mnsS NJSQZ6NZZs29HC/ezy1QVmATvc6IN1a+Y2h2eoG3vn/6uNmCXsrl/BqJ9trHtezEzXVO PrRdpVGH8lFoDnkabZ7swun48gszzWH52N8U4= Received: by 10.64.7.5 with SMTP id 5mr8469765qbg.42.1224688437488; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.235.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35f70db10810220813ib759728pe5ba322827f285d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:13:57 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: "Odhiambo Washington" In-Reply-To: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0b1e014e4ef22a39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:13:59 -0000 Wget? All the songs are on the website... http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio > player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in > WAV format, or even MP3? > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:16:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1289C10656C3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay08.plus.net (pih-relay08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22F68FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1KsfRs-00036m-Dd; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:16:36 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KsfRp-000KJb-PW; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:16:34 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: Paul Schmehl Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:16:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <58147F4381E54464D6DC9C6E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <58147F4381E54464D6DC9C6E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810221616.33698.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: b962475a169d67d8b683281e3f5bb98e Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:16:39 -0000 On Wednesday 22 October 2008, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Have you tried pkg_delete phpMyAdmin* ? Yes, already done that - it segfaults immediately :-( -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:16:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35AC10656EA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F878FC20 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9MFGe4q028399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:16:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9MFGe4q028399 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224688607; bh=ftgbD/uVnO1u20 gMUbGNose4Vvl8hwuygAtaioEv/qk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<48FF43D8.6 010209@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,=2022=20Oct=202008=2016: 16:40=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird= 202.0.0.17=20(X11/20081002)|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Mike=20Clarke =20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20Can't=20upgrade=20or=20deinstall=20phpMyAdmin|Re ferences:=20<200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>|In-Rep ly-To:=20<200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>|X-Enigmai l-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3DUTF-8 =3B=20format=3Dflowed|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; b=HIrZkyQF +wVAXa42nExPbHtt9DcLTE4KUHVHB9vCx5j1W+s4RHCBMGU1Y1+gofjS6ccjYYQEOx7 y+jAD+mVXwWOn5oS8npL5Ru+4jmBbTiPeSd2J/CM3qGZbgng8oJi0ZBVgUFbbfFx1Du G8FYed12J6TTh7VJ7Lii4TG0t1Wno= Message-ID: <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:16:40 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081002) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:16:47 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8468/Wed Oct 22 13:35:20 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:16:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Mike Clarke wrote: | FreeBSD curlew.lan 6.4-RC1 FreeBSD 6.4-RC1 #2: Sat Oct 18 23:08:47 BST | 2008 root@curlew.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURLEW i386 | | I'm trying to upgrade phpMyAdmin from 2.11.5.2 to 3.0.0_1 but all | attempts fail. If I try "make deinstall" I get the following result: | | ------------------------------------------------------------- | curlew:/usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin# make deinstall | ===> Deinstalling for databases/phpmyadmin | ===> Deinstalling phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 | Segmentation fault | *** Error code 139 | | Stop in /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin. | ------------------------------------------------------------- | | Things go wrong very early in the process, here's part of the output | from truss: | | ------------------------------------------------------------- | ===> Deinstalling for databases/phpmyadmin | wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 7 (0x7) | SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) | SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) | sigreturn(0xbfbfdb00) = 7 (0x7) | wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 1623 (0x657) | vfork() = 1624 (0x658) | ===> Deinstalling phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 | Segmentation fault | wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 7 (0x7) | SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) | SIGNAL 20 (SIGCHLD) | sigreturn(0xbfbfdb00) = 7 (0x7) | wait4(0xffffffff,0xbfbfde38,0x0,0x0) = 1624 (0x658) | fstat(1,{mode=crw------- ,inode=140,size=0,blksize=4096}) = 0 (0x0) | ioctl(1,TIOCGETA,0xbfbfd700) = 0 (0x0) | *** Error code 139 | write(1,"*** Error code 139\n",19) = 19 (0x13) | ------------------------------------------------------------- | | I've tried portsdb -uf and pkgdb with the F, L and u options but still | no joy. | | I'm not sure if this is relevant but a while ago I deinstalled apache | 1.3 and php 4 but forgot to deinstall phpMyAdmin. Today I installed | apache 2.2 with php 5 and unsuccessfully tried to deinstall the old | phpMyAdmin before doing this. Apache and php installed OK and the old | phpMyAdmin works but really ought to be upgraded. I tried to deinstall | phpMyAdmin again after installing the new packages but still have the | same problem. | | What should I do to persuade the old version to go? | Hmmm... not entirely sure what has actually gone wrong there, but I suspect your /var/db/pkg directory is probably in a bit of a mess. Deinstalling phpMyAdmin is simply a matter of removing almost all of the files under /usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin -- the only one the port tries to preserve is config.inc.php Can you try: ~ # pkg_delete -f phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 If the worst comes to the worst, you can do this (which is certainly *not* recommended in the general case, just it happens to work for phpMyAdmin which is a port without other things depending on it, and that installs everything into one directory): ~ # cd /usr/local/www ~ # cp phpMyAdmin/config.inc.php /root ~ # rm -rf phpMyAdmin ~ # cd /var/db/pkg ~ # rm -rf phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 ~ # pkgdb -F Note: there's no need to reinstall phpMyAdmin because you've upgraded Apache or even PHP. phpMyAdmin is all native PHP code and identical on disk for whatever combination of PHP interpreter and web server you use. You just need to copy the Apache config stuff into the new httpd.conf (ie. based on what 'pkg_info -Dx phpMyAdmin' produces). Note2: 3.0.1 will be out soon. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 ~ 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate ~ Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREDAAYFAkj/Q9gACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VZECwCglft9jndSoSo4D3RaOfYomvjO 7n4Anjtzpvq9G4HAfwCxKUisR3oS0o4Y =JabP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:17:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590D510656C5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187778FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F9D16C012B; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:17:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9MFH9Hu003166; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:17:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:17:08 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Odhiambo Washington" Message-Id: <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:17:12 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300, "Odhiambo Washington" wrote: > I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio > player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in > WAV format, or even MP3? If the DVD does contain standard audio CD format data, there should be no problem. First, check the contents: % cdcontrol info (I'll assume that /dev/acd0 is the drive the DVD is inserted into.) Then you can access every track via /dev/acd0txx, where xx is from 01 up to the number of tracks. Tracks can be copied from the DVD with the dd command: % dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 These usually are Audio CD data files: 44 kHz stereo, 16 bit. They can be put on a media as audio tracks without any change, for example if you use cdrecord with the -dao -audio flags (if I remember correctly), using a CD or DVD media. You can convert them to OGG/Vorbis or MP3 using the encoder you wish, for example: % oggenc -r -q 6 -o track01.ogg track01.cdr or % sox -x track01.cdr track01.wav % lame track01.wav track01.mp3 (ugly variant, but works; I'm sure you'll find a better way, just have a look at the manpages). If you want, you can add ID3 track information, or simply use a good file name. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:20:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896191065672 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4D48FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so7145609gxk.19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:20:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UEElPemV31q1xcWEdjd55S+EEiONhyv1jZI7RaeMVKg=; b=VjLMPxfKzs5UrUFYZvjOZyn2nWAruzxvjd7cCBw0XxdgudEO+ZFfeIKVGHKq9puLYo YLELOvEkE7Sh1ymzdgIA6Cc2oJS6NErB2M8Baq4Bj6dEWoe5ZgbPYhfDM9on/u7zxkA1 W5nt0sxNAfIC1SSvw+ReGqvGqBYvUchLbPFhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=HL2jIn1BpOLE/PuDJ+9RR02Yco8wPTbTvJ5wNNAjmsum39M2FIeYnlPURg5mY+SEtP 7qz20SnE3gx422DAJy37Jp5YKGQN7Tpq+9dI+iYypcEPJA/hAIp96SiZO3XLa9Woc8SX g7KCw7mFGB8ir05DptYEHX2rUK2nwVv+2tWwg= Received: by 10.114.124.12 with SMTP id w12mr7602219wac.210.1224688817085; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.9 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810220820v462f64b2q33187a10e1e2662e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:20:17 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:20:19 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300, "Odhiambo Washington" wrote: >> I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio >> player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in >> WAV format, or even MP3? > > If the DVD does contain standard audio CD format data, there should > be no problem. First, check the contents: > > % cdcontrol info > > (I'll assume that /dev/acd0 is the drive the DVD is inserted into.) > > Then you can access every track via /dev/acd0txx, where xx is from 01 > up to the number of tracks. Tracks can be copied from the DVD with > the dd command: > > % dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 > > These usually are Audio CD data files: 44 kHz stereo, 16 bit. They can > be put on a media as audio tracks without any change, for example if > you use cdrecord with the -dao -audio flags (if I remember correctly), > using a CD or DVD media. You can convert them to OGG/Vorbis or MP3 > using the encoder you wish, for example: > > % oggenc -r -q 6 -o track01.ogg track01.cdr > > or > > % sox -x track01.cdr track01.wav > % lame track01.wav track01.mp3 > > (ugly variant, but works; I'm sure you'll find a better way, just > have a look at the manpages). > > If you want, you can add ID3 track information, or simply use a good > file name. :-) > > > > -- > Polytropon Hello Polytropon, That sounds like the solution I was looking for! I will give the steps a shot. Thank you do much. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:20:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21D81065671 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A3F8FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A7916C009A; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9MFKLti003177; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:20:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:20:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Victor Farah Message-Id: <20081022172021.91fda604.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> References: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GCC help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:20:23 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:09 -0400, Victor Farah wrote: > I was wondering how I would update gcc to version 4.2? > I'm not sure I can just do a portupgrade gcc ?? The GCC available from ports can be installed "next to" the GCC that comes with the system which, by the way, is 4.2.1 in FreeBSD 7. % cc -v Using built-in specs. Target: i386-undermydesk-freebsd Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler Thread model: posix gcc version 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] If you need to install GCC of another version (e. g. 4.4), you can install it from the ports collection (e. g. lang/gcc44). If I remeber correctly, it is called as gcc44 then instead of cc / gcc. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:36:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DCE10656D7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=174fdb69a@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A4A8FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=174fdb69a@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,464,1220245200"; d="scan'208";a="777919" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 22 Oct 2008 10:07:37 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5EA88863; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:37 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <58147F4381E54464D6DC9C6E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:36:28 -0000 --On Wednesday, October 22, 2008 09:56:28 -0500 Mike Clarke wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is relevant but a while ago I deinstalled apache > 1.3 and php 4 but forgot to deinstall phpMyAdmin. Today I installed > apache 2.2 with php 5 and unsuccessfully tried to deinstall the old > phpMyAdmin before doing this. Apache and php installed OK and the old > phpMyAdmin works but really ought to be upgraded. I tried to deinstall > phpMyAdmin again after installing the new packages but still have the > same problem. > > What should I do to persuade the old version to go? > Have you tried pkg_delete phpMyAdmin* ? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:41:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB49D1065682 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A635C8FC29 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m9MFfM88063164; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:41:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Odhiambo Washington" , "Polytropon" Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:42:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <991123400810220820v462f64b2q33187a10e1e2662e@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: User Questions Subject: RE: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:41:41 -0000 I think ffmpeg will also convert these, and it supports more conversions than sox does. Actually, both sox and ffmpeg rely heavily on external libraries to perform their conversion functions, they are more "front end" programs than anything else. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Odhiambo > Washington > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:20 AM > To: Polytropon > Cc: User Questions > Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300, "Odhiambo Washington" > wrote: > >> I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio > >> player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in > >> WAV format, or even MP3? > > > > If the DVD does contain standard audio CD format data, there should > > be no problem. First, check the contents: > > > > % cdcontrol info > > > > (I'll assume that /dev/acd0 is the drive the DVD is inserted into.) > > > > Then you can access every track via /dev/acd0txx, where xx is from 01 > > up to the number of tracks. Tracks can be copied from the DVD with > > the dd command: > > > > % dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 > > > > These usually are Audio CD data files: 44 kHz stereo, 16 bit. They can > > be put on a media as audio tracks without any change, for example if > > you use cdrecord with the -dao -audio flags (if I remember correctly), > > using a CD or DVD media. You can convert them to OGG/Vorbis or MP3 > > using the encoder you wish, for example: > > > > % oggenc -r -q 6 -o track01.ogg track01.cdr > > > > or > > > > % sox -x track01.cdr track01.wav > > % lame track01.wav track01.mp3 > > > > (ugly variant, but works; I'm sure you'll find a better way, just > > have a look at the manpages). > > > > If you want, you can add ID3 track information, or simply use a good > > file name. :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > Polytropon > > Hello Polytropon, > > That sounds like the solution I was looking for! I will give the > steps a shot. > > Thank you do much. > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:45:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9FA106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFA88FC2B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2882015wfg.7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:45:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hRJhhLsWwAs35COKjTwa28d+17otGhIcz+o77os5ug0=; b=fjFHVhdZWeGtXFIQz3rkDMa7/OMMO1baKNCdLqMMoQSxe1Q+Vsm1MSGFrr0IGkvHD9 AC92QULkIuuKZXwk4CEaKHvncIViSI6jYEyGwr8QQSqUS+3QVcZ4ThEXjCOu0CtpDPzt eSGcObnbunpI2lWzN8GLy4+4skmKi1IYARcPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=EBcpeaISiwUEQ+wagBrRmAhsqiFI31oeJ9Kgx5RQNZzBxxhFLZ7x+eS1Cg96iDRt6L vuTOk810Y4o/VzSPfh31suV6bJoiB2ifqEOJsw/oIIMFmrDBZ/c683JjK2RVCBX5hGg5 RrGbkuKYSRkbYgp+DTSIY14+n66bCVmDCa/Oc= Received: by 10.115.94.1 with SMTP id w1mr7675846wal.109.1224690303126; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.9 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810220845r1573fe6ckf467bda80eacaf59@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:45:02 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400810220820v462f64b2q33187a10e1e2662e@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Polytropon , User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:45:03 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > I think ffmpeg will also convert these, and it supports more > conversions than sox does. Actually, both sox and ffmpeg rely > heavily on external libraries to perform their conversion functions, > they are more "front end" programs than anything else. > Are there similar (but Free) programs for Windows? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 15:48:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CD91065676 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7968FC21 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Vn6Z1a0061HpZEsA2rorsb; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:48:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Vroq1a00B2P6wsM8aroqHP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:48:51 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=QXOh4XDR82yvpe9RasUA:9 a=0H2nC7Ank3otqXFm-Ko6CJ4-f9kA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 594B0C9432; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:48:50 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20081022154850.GA62339@icarus.home.lan> References: <991123400810220820v462f64b2q33187a10e1e2662e@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810220845r1573fe6ckf467bda80eacaf59@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <991123400810220845r1573fe6ckf467bda80eacaf59@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Polytropon , User Questions , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:48:52 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 06:45:02PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > I think ffmpeg will also convert these, and it supports more > > conversions than sox does. Actually, both sox and ffmpeg rely > > heavily on external libraries to perform their conversion functions, > > they are more "front end" programs than anything else. > > > > Are there similar (but Free) programs for Windows? For extraction: try Exact Audio Copy (EAC), or CDex. It all depends on if the CD audio tracks are truly available on the DVD or not, and if the softwares can detect them. Both can do MP3, Ogg, or other conversions on-the-fly. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 16:06:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06A1106566C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6458D8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m9MG6QKn063338; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Odhiambo Washington" Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:07:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <991123400810220845r1573fe6ckf467bda80eacaf59@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Polytropon , User Questions Subject: RE: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:06:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Odhiambo > Washington > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:45 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Polytropon; User Questions > Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD > > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt > wrote: > > > > I think ffmpeg will also convert these, and it supports more > > conversions than sox does. Actually, both sox and ffmpeg rely > > heavily on external libraries to perform their conversion functions, > > they are more "front end" programs than anything else. > > > > Are there similar (but Free) programs for Windows? > Windows Media Player ver 11 will rip audio tracks to .mp3, .wav and of course, .wma This is a free download from Microsoft for XP and Vista Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 16:08:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC6610656E2 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEB88FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so1198179wxc.7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:08:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9nLKcXFgxo4JWfslBwXvMUPG89Y7XINOLFMYLnCeZqw=; b=Ayct2CIdpxAqf0eA3DB5Fmnc+4G6XkO9RcXJ2THMSDk6cfdMqmJdKCPkgwVvpMcyUm Lo66fJTSH98fSdq11ih/fmBkkST6w/RRGBTl+GSJhWqHl2uvkWPDRKftN2TKLPh0uQ+b X5j/2W6B3HBr4v8CEipjeHEaXXajwGQr9jRMs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mA8sSa0ctH/Tv6DpPmxyAxMD9yJi4t0kv7fgL69C157hbleHfFMvyWuGbOMmmiKnnP ZUijaDHZsMCyjriU0yH7ov+5nAIszt6kVi5AaUqJP73VqS9EozfbDTjGWwv00rvGzG5F ElyNbvo/WMktsvAYJtRh9HPWl035o968CBwzo= Received: by 10.114.95.1 with SMTP id s1mr7670005wab.221.1224691712703; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.120.9 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810220908m2059c3d7uc28670d434872779@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:08:32 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400810220845r1573fe6ckf467bda80eacaf59@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Polytropon , User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:08:34 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Odhiambo >> Washington >> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:45 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: Polytropon; User Questions >> Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt >> wrote: >> > >> > I think ffmpeg will also convert these, and it supports more >> > conversions than sox does. Actually, both sox and ffmpeg rely >> > heavily on external libraries to perform their conversion functions, >> > they are more "front end" programs than anything else. >> > >> >> Are there similar (but Free) programs for Windows? >> > > Windows Media Player ver 11 will rip audio tracks to .mp3, .wav and > of course, .wma This is a free download from Microsoft for XP and Vista Hi Ted, It does that from Audio CDs but not DVD, unless I missed the fine print somehow:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 16:19:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4281065672 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BE58FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 22730 invoked by uid 89); 22 Oct 2008 16:19:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 22 Oct 2008 16:19:37 -0000 In-Reply-To: <33DD5BC0-7D57-4530-BB59-46E2D7A43F1A@identry.com> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> <51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5C58A1145@identry.com> <33DD5BC0-7D57-4530-BB59-46E2D7A43F1A@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <65233E01-1617-4C93-91ED-394330F31AA4@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:19:35 -0400 To: John Almberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:19:39 -0000 >> Now I just need to figure out how to start it on reboot, but that >> is something I've been meaning to learn, anyway, so I don't mind. > > I hope you guys will bear with me just a little more... I have > spent the day trying to figure out how to create an rc script for > autossh. Very cool, and not as hard as I'd anticipated. It is > attached below. > > The script works perfectly *iff* I run it from the command line as > a non-root user, like so: > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/autossh start > > However, it does NOT work when executed by root. Instead, I get the > following error message in /var/log/messages > > messages:Oct 21 19:01:38 on autossh[89267]: ssh exited > prematurely with status 255; autossh exiting > > So (my understanding), autossh is starting, and tries to create the > tunnel, but the tunnel creation fails with the unhelpful 255 error > message. > > But only when executed by root. That's the puzzling part. > > I don't allow root logins on this server, but don't see how that > could cause this problem.... > > I'm stumped. Any hints, much appreciated. > > -- John > > ---------------------- > > #!/bin/sh > # PROVIDE: autossh > # REQUIRE: LOGIN > # KEYWORD: shutdown > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="autossh" > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > start_cmd="${name}_start" > stop_cmd=":" > > load_rc_config $name > eval "${rcvar}=\${${rcvar}:='NO'}" > > command="/usr/local/bin/autossh" > command_args="-M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@example.com" > #pidfile="/var/run/autossh.pid" > #AUTOSSH_PIDFILE="$pidfile"; export AUTOSSH_PIDFILE > > autossh_start() > { > ${command} ${command_args} > echo "started autossh" > } > > run_rc_command "$1" > Answering my own question (probably the best way)... I solved this problem by figuring out how to execute the command inside the rc script as a non-root user. Like so: autossh_start() { echo "${command} ${command_args}" su admin -c "${command} ${command_args}" echo "started autossh" } This works beautifully, so I almost hesitate to ask, but is there anything wrong with this approach? -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 16:30:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFCB1065672 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72098FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9MGTnpO031538; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:29:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9MGTnpO031538 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224692997; bh=LIJqQXFFsxV9xL In4gUN3l595KfmeSKC9DvwrStniPE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48FF54F7.6000506@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,=2 022=20Oct=202008=2017:29:43=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20John=20Almberg=20|CC:=20freebsd-ques tions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20mysql=20connection=20through=20s sl=20tunnel|References:=20<8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@ide ntry.com>=09<48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk>=09<912A74FB-0292-4A53-B 480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com>=09<20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home .lan>=09<007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com>=09<48FD8 876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk>=09<51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5 C58A1145@identry.com>=09<33DD5BC0-7D57-4530-BB59-46E2D7A43F1A@ident ry.com>=20<65233E01-1617-4C93-91ED-394330F31AA4@identry.com>|In-Rep ly-To:=20<65233E01-1617-4C93-91ED-394330F31AA4@identry.com>|X-Enigm ail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg= 3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0 D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig48401056F0D0DAC4D58577A2"; b=DEK xdUWAE7ISNHaNb3ESgJprLkyN08kqSSxZWssUt19KwIM+Eb2AjQToT3DAIZGyxAi0yN SZVX2mCUdJjTP8+//kOTY5sq2iHnuokTSvCtYF4ZHKCoLalU+zBOOJakGxZTfdiia4i 2xS/ZZJqsfhblcttr3PuXfc880HPOEYh70= Message-ID: <48FF54F7.6000506@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:29:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> <51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5C58A1145@identry.com> <33DD5BC0-7D57-4530-BB59-46E2D7A43F1A@identry.com> <65233E01-1617-4C93-91ED-394330F31AA4@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <65233E01-1617-4C93-91ED-394330F31AA4@identry.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig48401056F0D0DAC4D58577A2" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:29:57 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8468/Wed Oct 22 13:35:20 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:30:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig48401056F0D0DAC4D58577A2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Almberg wrote: >>> Now I just need to figure out how to start it on reboot, but that is = >>> something I've been meaning to learn, anyway, so I don't mind. >> >> I hope you guys will bear with me just a little more... I have spent=20 >> the day trying to figure out how to create an rc script for autossh.=20 >> Very cool, and not as hard as I'd anticipated. It is attached below. >> >> The script works perfectly *iff* I run it from the command line as a=20 >> non-root user, like so: >> >> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/autossh start >> >> However, it does NOT work when executed by root. Instead, I get the=20 >> following error message in /var/log/messages >> >> messages:Oct 21 19:01:38 on autossh[89267]: ssh exited prematurely=20 >> with status 255; autossh exiting >> >> So (my understanding), autossh is starting, and tries to create the=20 >> tunnel, but the tunnel creation fails with the unhelpful 255 error=20 >> message. >> >> But only when executed by root. That's the puzzling part. >> >> I don't allow root logins on this server, but don't see how that could= =20 >> cause this problem.... >> >> I'm stumped. Any hints, much appreciated. >> >> -- John >> >> ---------------------- >> >> #!/bin/sh >> # PROVIDE: autossh >> # REQUIRE: LOGIN >> # KEYWORD: shutdown >> >> . /etc/rc.subr >> >> name=3D"autossh" >> rcvar=3D`set_rcvar` >> start_cmd=3D"${name}_start" >> stop_cmd=3D":" >> >> load_rc_config $name >> eval "${rcvar}=3D\${${rcvar}:=3D'NO'}" >> >> command=3D"/usr/local/bin/autossh" >> command_args=3D"-M 20000 -fNg -L 33006:127.0.0.1:3306 admin@example.co= m" >> #pidfile=3D"/var/run/autossh.pid" >> #AUTOSSH_PIDFILE=3D"$pidfile"; export AUTOSSH_PIDFILE >> >> autossh_start() >> { >> ${command} ${command_args} >> echo "started autossh" >> } >> >> run_rc_command "$1" >> >=20 > Answering my own question (probably the best way)... >=20 > I solved this problem by figuring out how to execute the command inside= =20 > the rc script as a non-root user. Like so: >=20 > autossh_start() > { > echo "${command} ${command_args}" > su admin -c "${command} ${command_args}" > echo "started autossh" > } >=20 >=20 > This works beautifully, so I almost hesitate to ask, but is there=20 > anything wrong with this approach? Nothing, except you're re-inventing the wheel. rc.subr already has a mechanism for running commands as another user. Instead of defining a new start() function, simply add something like: : ${autossh_user:=3D'admin'} towards the top of the script. (This also means you can override the setting by defining 'autossh_user=3D"someoneelse"' in /etc/rc.conf in the usual way) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig48401056F0D0DAC4D58577A2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkj/VP0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw/jACcCYg8lEIPLr/vJ25nZLJzuPNK EuUAniglq2+LTsQ9bjbJaDldLtgdlzWX =CskT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig48401056F0D0DAC4D58577A2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 16:58:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B563A1065676 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1E68FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 28958 invoked by uid 89); 22 Oct 2008 16:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 22 Oct 2008 16:58:47 -0000 In-Reply-To: <48FF54F7.6000506@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <8B945891-5F96-4FBF-8175-15F67F03DD92@identry.com> <48D8F881.1010000@unsane.co.uk> <912A74FB-0292-4A53-B480-34FE69D9C465@identry.com> <20081020212103.GA13334@icarus.home.lan> <007ABF71-6D85-4849-A9E7-933D18236EE8@identry.com> <48FD8876.5090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> <51D1673D-4689-4F9A-8217-CFC5C58A1145@identry.com> <33DD5BC0-7D57-4530-BB59-46E2D7A43F1A@identry.com> <65233E01-1617-4C93-91ED-394330F31AA4@identry.com> <48FF54F7.6000506@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6D143252-2508-4317-A6BE-5D157CDD44A9@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:58:46 -0400 To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql connection through ssl tunnel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:58:48 -0000 >> Answering my own question (probably the best way)... >> I solved this problem by figuring out how to execute the command >> inside the rc script as a non-root user. Like so: >> autossh_start() >> { >> echo "${command} ${command_args}" >> su admin -c "${command} ${command_args}" >> echo "started autossh" >> } >> This works beautifully, so I almost hesitate to ask, but is there >> anything wrong with this approach? > > Nothing, except you're re-inventing the wheel. rc.subr already > has a mechanism for running commands as another user. Instead > of defining a new start() function, simply add something like: > > : ${autossh_user:='admin'} > > towards the top of the script. (This also means you can override > the setting by defining 'autossh_user="someoneelse"' in /etc/rc.conf > in the usual way) > Ah, fascinating. Now that I know what I'm looking for, I can see that in the rc.subr man page. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 17:05:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0751065676 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053698FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ksh8u-0000lO-LR; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:05:08 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ksh8u-0005OM-3B; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:05:08 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:05:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 534a3b3095768cb257f7d443e8da5308 Cc: Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:05:12 -0000 On Wednesday 22 October 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Hmmm... not entirely sure what has actually gone wrong there, but I > suspect your /var/db/pkg directory is probably in a bit of a mess. > =A0Deinstalling phpMyAdmin is simply a matter of removing almost all of > the files under /usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin -- the only one the port > tries to preserve is config.inc.php Yes, I knew phpMyAdmin kept all its files in one place so replacing it=20 with the new version by hand was possible if all else failed but the=20 ports system would have still thought it had version 2 and I was rather=20 unsure what problems the inconsistency might create later. =2E > Can you try: > > ~ =A0 # pkg_delete -f phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 Yes, I'd already done that with the same segfault. > If the worst comes to the worst, you can do this (which is certainly > *not* recommended in the general case, just it happens to work for > phpMyAdmin which is a port without other things depending on it, and > that installs everything into one directory): > > ~ =A0 # cd /usr/local/www > ~ =A0 # cp phpMyAdmin/config.inc.php /root > ~ =A0 # rm -rf phpMyAdmin > ~ =A0 # cd /var/db/pkg > ~ =A0 # rm -rf phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 > ~ =A0 # pkgdb -F That did the trick, thanks for the help. > Note: there's no need to reinstall phpMyAdmin because you've upgraded > Apache or even PHP. =A0phpMyAdmin is all native PHP code and identical > on disk for whatever combination of PHP interpreter and web server > you use. =A0You just need to copy the Apache config stuff into the new > httpd.conf (ie. based on what 'pkg_info -Dx phpMyAdmin' produces). Yes, but in this case I'd moved my web server temporarily onto another=20 machine while I (slowly) upgraded the hardware on this box, hence the=20 removal of Apache and PHP. After getting the new hardware back into=20 service I installed the newer versions of Apache and PHP, it was just=20 by chance that there was still a copy of phpMyAdmin on the system but=20 in view of the security vulnerability in 2.11.5.2 I thought I'd better=20 replace it with 3.0.0_1. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 17:09:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26E31065699 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608308FC20 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so545216gve.39 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:08:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uyMznlvwOFKPOlMqLfVlxWKC3ijIVwCsJXd3cf2DrMs=; b=VM0/niVIuIdIXysyfUv+71jbeF6FIledGh/ikmeTk4inJyOp4DD/FUM+xrYTs5XZqX BShlpbKZYA4/ynovCob7598r7uIt1dsF7OPdk/Yj5vuBOwnFxsBzFpGhN28lCwPvV8Xb KzORu7Vhtuvr2Opyn78vTB314LUve1piUpZ9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RkP6oltoGrpD+202TaU+oUxY+9HmrjjcvQZPHQA7i4pZlzahCOnomq5b2V2plolj/H Ob0yu5MdVeSyg9f1QqeDe02kRNjbV8LypZIdDYcoGcScD561RJgZZKghn2y/iu3qhEHn NyX7iIvehL/1d5axx0UkVbNDXjQwc9Lk4Ipt0= Received: by 10.103.173.5 with SMTP id a5mr2382292mup.65.1224695333404; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.240.10 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:08:53 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: dmw@coder.cl In-Reply-To: <48FF2FDF.6000102@coder.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> <48FF2FDF.6000102@coder.cl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Marco Subject: Re: calendar software wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:09:00 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Molina Wegener wrote= : > Marco escribi=F3: > >> hello list, >> >> anybody has experience with calendar software which runs on freebsd. i >> maybe would integrate it also in thunderbird/mutt,but thats not >> necessary, or use a stand alone software. >> minimum requirements to the software would be making entries, getting >> alarms for appointments. >> > > Try kontact (the kdepim port). Have fun xD > > >> thank you for responses, >> marco >> > > Regards, > Before I moved from my PalmPilot III (still works) to an iPhone (not 3G), I used JPilot for my PIM and Sylpheed-Claws (the name has changed?) for email. This was a good setup because there was a plugin that allowed Sylpheed-Claws to access the JPilot addressbook. I currently use webcalendar (with apache, php, postgresql) for my calendar. This is overkill for an individual; but has many advantages for family scheduling: I can add an item to my wife's calendar with an email reminder. Since my wife has a blackberry email address, the message will get pushed to her phone. When testing this feature, I would suggest starting with something like a dinner invitation rather than a grocery list= . ;-) Have fun, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 17:57:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7D1065679 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185D58FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CC051459; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:57:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9MHvtvM003679; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:57:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:57:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20081022195755.aaf4a1a0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <48fbea58.MJTNxk/Em/TmZNW9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081019044058.9ff31b6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <48fac99c.v09a2DdmpE7xdWZS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20081019185224.d0ce3bd3.freebsd@edvax.de> <48fbea58.MJTNxk/Em/TmZNW9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inode numbering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:57:59 -0000 On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:18:00 -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > You may be able to reuse some code from dump(8). Hey, that's a good idea! After having had a short look at the source of dump, I developed another idea: dump applies some criteria weather to access (and dump) an inode or not. Maybe it's possible to change these criteria within dump, recompile it and then use it to dump any (!) existing inode. The only problem would be to implement a workaround for those that don't have a parent inode anymore (file name lost), i. e. those on the 1st hierarchy stage within the home directory. > Dump's purpose is to ensure that the dump will be complete in the > sense of containing the full path to any file that is on the tape, > and your purpose is different, but I suspect much of the "find > parent" logic may be reusable. I have to admit that it's a bit complicated. Programming applications in C is my forte, hehe, but dump's C code is very much lowlevel. I'm so lucky FreeBSD has the right attitude towards documentation. So I will find a way to implement it, I hope. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 18:22:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B736E106567B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8468FC1F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:22:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9MIMfMD004113; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:22:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9MIMecB004108; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:22:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:22:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081022202132.S4097@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:22:49 -0000 you mean DVD video. mplayer can play DVD's, just use -vc dummy -vo null -ao pcm:file=1.wav in options, this will ignore video and decode audio to 1.wav On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio > player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in > WAV format, or even MP3? > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 19:00:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3780F106567A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E648FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 82067472102 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 114CB386787 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:00:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Wed Oct 22 21:00:03 2008 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF8D386733 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:00:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A5E39730272; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:50:11 +0200 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:58:31 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: what else is needed to make ftp passive work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:00:01 -0000 two machines on the same private network. ftp 10.0.0.24 Connected to 10.0.0.24. 220 mx1.fairhope.net FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. Name (10.0.0.24:username): 331 Password required for username. Password: 230 User username logged in. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> ls 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||64341|) at this point, there is a long delay, that eventually completes: 200 EPRT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls' ... and the rest of the ftp session runs fast. on the ftp server, if we "ipfw disable firewall", the ftp session runs without delay. in hosts file, both machines have both of their records, so we don't think the delay is query for PTR of either IP. our ipfw.rules: # stateful $IPF 50 check-state $IPF 60 allow tcp from any to any established $IPF 70 allow all from any to any out keep-state $IPF 80 allow icmp from any to any # open well-known ports # FTP $IPF 120 allow tcp from any to any 20 in $IPF 121 allow tcp from any to any 20 out $IPF 122 allow tcp from any to any 21 in $IPF 123 allow tcp from any to any 21 out In inetd.conf, we've added "-l -l -d" but don't get any ftpd debug info written to /var/log/messages or /var/log/xferlog or dmesg system buffer. So what else is needed inf our ifpw.rules for the ftpd params to get the switch to Extended Passive Mode to run quickly? thanks, Len ______________________________________________ IMGate OpenSource Mail Firewall www.IMGate.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 19:13:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0AA106566B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4855A8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VsMZ1a00B0bG4ec58vDKoM; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:19 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VvDW1a00E2P6wsM3PvDXsJ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=d5s715_J3lgA:10 a=_m_ItmdSWJMA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=P6K9Cxm-U18rH6nt1LMA:9 a=7Pg0StzS4PGfcvdgvtYA:7 a=qCrdjhr07pYj4YVbUrDuZuVXTE8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 693D7C9432; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:13:30 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Len Conrad Message-ID: <20081022191330.GA66142@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what else is needed to make ftp passive work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:34 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:58:31PM -0500, Len Conrad wrote: > two machines on the same private network. > > ftp 10.0.0.24 > Connected to 10.0.0.24. > 220 mx1.fairhope.net FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. > Name (10.0.0.24:username): > 331 Password required for username. > Password: > 230 User username logged in. > Remote system type is UNIX. > Using binary mode to transfer files. > ftp> ls > 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||64341|) > > at this point, there is a long delay, that eventually completes: > > 200 EPRT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls' > > ... and the rest of the ftp session runs fast. > > on the ftp server, if we "ipfw disable firewall", the ftp session runs without delay. > > in hosts file, both machines have both of their records, so we don't think the delay is query for PTR of either IP. > > our ipfw.rules: > > # stateful > $IPF 50 check-state > $IPF 60 allow tcp from any to any established > $IPF 70 allow all from any to any out keep-state > $IPF 80 allow icmp from any to any > > # open well-known ports > > # FTP > $IPF 120 allow tcp from any to any 20 in > $IPF 121 allow tcp from any to any 20 out > $IPF 122 allow tcp from any to any 21 in > $IPF 123 allow tcp from any to any 21 out > > In inetd.conf, we've added "-l -l -d" but don't get any ftpd debug info written to /var/log/messages or /var/log/xferlog or dmesg system buffer. > > So what else is needed inf our ifpw.rules for the ftpd params to get the switch to Extended Passive Mode to run quickly? You're not understanding the FTP protocol properly, specifically the difference between Passive and Active mode. This is why you're having issues. You need to punch firewall holes to your FTP server on the following ports: Inbound: TCP port 21 (main ftpd daemon) Inbound: TCP ports 49152 to 65535 (used in FTP passive mode) Outbound: TCP port 20 (used in FTP active mode) Yes, you read that range correctly. And yes, it's quite large. Yes, there is a way to diminish it, but it will affect other programs on FreeBSD, so I do not recommend adjusting it. It's controlled by sysctls. See the -U option of ftpd, but note that it doesn't do anything for FreeBSD 5.0 or later. I highly recommend you stick the FTP server on its own IP address (e.g. bind the FTP server to its own IP using IP aliases), and then apply those rules to a specific IP address, e.g.: ipfw add 120 allow tcp from any to ftp.server.ip 21 in ipfw add 121 allow tcp from any to ftp.server.ip 49152-65536 in ipfw add 122 allow tcp from ftp.server.ip 20 to any out Finally, I recommend if this machine is RELENG_6 or later, that you look in to using pf(4) instead. You'll thank me later. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 19:34:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E870106569B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5829A8FC2F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 26237 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2008 19:34:02 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Oct 2008 19:34:02 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0DFE650832; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:34:00 -0400 (EDT) To: Len Conrad References: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:33:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> (Len Conrad's message of "Wed\, 22 Oct 2008 13\:58\:31 -0500") Message-ID: <44k5c02zmg.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what else is needed to make ftp passive work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:34:03 -0000 Len Conrad writes: > two machines on the same private network. > > ftp 10.0.0.24 > Connected to 10.0.0.24. > 220 mx1.fairhope.net FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. > Name (10.0.0.24:username): > 331 Password required for username. > Password: > 230 User username logged in. > Remote system type is UNIX. > Using binary mode to transfer files. > ftp> ls > 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||64341|) > > at this point, there is a long delay, that eventually completes: > > 200 EPRT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls' > > ... and the rest of the ftp session runs fast. > > on the ftp server, if we "ipfw disable firewall", the ftp session runs without delay. > > in hosts file, both machines have both of their records, so we don't think the delay is query for PTR of either IP. > > our ipfw.rules: On both machines? Only the one initiating the FTP session? > # stateful > $IPF 50 check-state > $IPF 60 allow tcp from any to any established > $IPF 70 allow all from any to any out keep-state > $IPF 80 allow icmp from any to any > > # open well-known ports > > # FTP > $IPF 120 allow tcp from any to any 20 in > $IPF 121 allow tcp from any to any 20 out > $IPF 122 allow tcp from any to any 21 in > $IPF 123 allow tcp from any to any 21 out > > In inetd.conf, we've added "-l -l -d" but don't get any ftpd debug info written to /var/log/messages or /var/log/xferlog or dmesg system buffer. > > So what else is needed inf our ifpw.rules for the ftpd params to get the switch to Extended Passive Mode to run quickly? I'd recommend looking at the traffic being seen on the wire (e.g., with tcpdump(1) on the interface on the sending side). I'll guess, though, that you'll find that the data channel is being blocked from getting into the "server". -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 19:38:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E176106566B; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EAE8FC27; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9MJcJIV039391; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:38:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9MJcJIV039391 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224704300; bh=S2cBAYE/cszQxr rbmLlzCFw/1fgXGvGZCqihRswqmYU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48FF8125.6070703@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,=2 022=20Oct=202008=2020:38:13=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Jeremy=20Chadwick=20|CC:=20Len=20Conra d=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subjec t:=20Re:=20what=20else=20is=20needed=20to=20make=20ftp=20passive=20 work|References:=20<200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com>=20<2 0081022191330.GA66142@icarus.home.lan>|In-Reply-To:=20<200810221913 30.GA66142@icarus.home.lan>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Ty pe:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol =3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------e nigE93A5B59833BF531692AD519"; b=eNjz2Z8JTsRAkDDpweS7F9mUhvOdeD0TPmL BqWERl3vA8AONJerti4Hhp4+ePELOrS/+pgX4FSwEA+I5RikyN5koLgy+ckt2puow6k mGM0ymFWm7f/wz2Y0QuQyg16ca+BLOCBGY7IZuER3PGRcSRNSj9h3hjJeo5PicpOj9g 2s= Message-ID: <48FF8125.6070703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:38:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> <20081022191330.GA66142@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081022191330.GA66142@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE93A5B59833BF531692AD519" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:38:20 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8470/Wed Oct 22 16:13:42 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Len Conrad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what else is needed to make ftp passive work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:38:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE93A5B59833BF531692AD519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Finally, I recommend if this machine is RELENG_6 or later, that you loo= k > in to using pf(4) instead. You'll thank me later. :-) Specifically ftp-proxy(8). Makes it almost feasible to support such an archaic and unfriendly-to-firewalling protocol as FTP and still retain at least a modicum of security. Cheers, Matthew, who is still bemused by peoples' assumption that just because i= t is called 'File Transfer Protocol' it is *the* way to transfer files. Hello! It's the 21st Century now. Try WebDAV. Try rsync --=20 either anonymous, or over ssh. Try sftp. Try scp.=20 --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE93A5B59833BF531692AD519 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkj/gSsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxriQCfRm8HTzsOJ0paYSpaDO3B8Nj4 B6gAn1JGB5p1t+2Q5DtHtX24J8wAIY3I =zvJE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE93A5B59833BF531692AD519-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 20:36:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437991065670 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+26=a56e0640@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADFC8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+26=a56e0640@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF77BD051E for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:35:56 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081022213556.4b5c9fa8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> References: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: GCC help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:36:00 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:09 -0400 Victor Farah wrote: > I was wondering how I would update gcc to version 4.2? > I'm not sure I can just do a portupgrade gcc ?? If you install a later version of gcc it won't automatically get used because the port will use the base-system version. I've seen this warning previously and it's never caused a noticeable problem for me. If it were serious, I imagine the maintainer would have configured it to use a minimum gcc port version. If it bothers you, the most sensible thing would be to upgrade to 7.1 when it's released From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 22:42:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FB3106567F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741B38FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so6858tid.3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url:x-openpgp-id :x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os:x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type :sender; bh=O40u9arLth5owaKaef6PvGPxPPLR9vmCgd1jgETRXjI=; b=dwWcD3Z1JqpGfTDeYmLLWuGIPJMRI09RvX4NCMFRhm6202UiuuiZIRhoDGBHh6yEJy z4Ux2ZYTzuEcAvMHBBeju6esUcwJeYlIJrQl7RJ6MYf2oJrkVOhhxxkFtBYP51CfT9iQ JOcltOXj2MaDK9bH9jqn2o4h6wGlgn5piCtPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url :x-openpgp-id:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os:x-mailer:x-mail-morse :x-attribution:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face :mime-version:content-type:sender; b=azrWdRGXsidrGIG2bXdsSEdFbL4cLcWObSPUBB4rdgjXQk5Td3NxPJWdV1NCNE6xLe R8Z1XtdpV+4s9vvLmilCX1Bcn5+fL2ZLGlU4/LSNKq6CA9WWaxF0N/EkwpIXqLtZU0Cs a8YfeSyrRIsiGChfC7aGJMvN/0TYoqtlIwf3k= Received: by 10.110.95.15 with SMTP id s15mr7399988tib.8.1224715322143; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.lf ([122.161.0.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm5157147tib.1.2008.10.22.15.41.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT) From: wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IA==?= =?utf-8?B?4KS24KWB4KSV4KWN4KSy?=) To: RW Organization: alt.religion.emacs References: <87hc75pzcm.fsf@chateau.d.lf> <20081022124139.473da181@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl; t7 X-Uptime: 04:11:14 up 13:02, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.56, 0.49 X-URL: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ X-OpenPGP-ID: 762E5E74 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74 X-OS: GNU/Linux on Linux 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 kernel on x86_64 architecture X-Mailer: Gnus/5.13 (Oort 5.13) Emacs/23.0.60.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:12:38 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20081022124139.473da181@gumby.homeunix.com> (RW's message of "Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:41:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87bpxc9rq9.fsf@chateau.d.lf> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJ1BMVEWpqal/f39tbW1jY2Md HR2goKCenp6UlJROTk7////9/f35+fnT09ORJdieAAACVklEQVQ4jXXUP2vbQBQA8AvUTkgz5OzY Z0iGWhpS6BSrkECn0mvx0MEJ6AjtYrfoBCVDlD8naJYmNlRfwZq8+mkKlIZaGpJSYmP7Q/XkJDrJ Td8i/H68u3vHPaPufwLdf32AMA4A6GcAgvAamY1pOJiDIFqicTwLswDhfr3uxfFtkAY/GFHPMwzD 8zpnACmIOnE6js7rQb+v4NJrG9od0C+QgpHMy5jBewV+UDSMWiw1Y4fWfyV7+NGFzDsYa3pth9LJ Q4XvXxFHcJRvHOmygn5NAEabnDcQQguarnfoiwSCJ99jmKKcphsZONmWsDK9Ro7cvZOCtQdg8nje egLhc2LNlkLmsezzTFUUy5w18ocox/f0LaLgJy0zO75zk+9pp85GAj36xjqhdI0y3tq2m4dqqcWX zQWBTz8L1irvolXV4J+3q7eCDgVnttjNq6X8H+9KOZsuNk1uCzx8pSp+E9HImfJOTLdcGqo+YKnG EIovizkEn48V7BO+ch2DXcD4ENSpWiU+q8hjjbgTBZCXnZtyj0Ws4Q1Q0B2WXFtYZo65Bbyeeldw RS6qFueM80LlLA29YlVwGRYvFD+kwI/0O+A2PlpOP9GwslUVciHuYGechuBTp922YiDZCrghTknm XSyOM+D3aoRZlo0Jb42zY7DN4p2x4AeZ+QAYutx1sHwTHzMT5cMNduQ9yW3GczN4KZ86kb0c9O8T yXDeFqpl2fryPEAYGXIlezAPXYh2NgVr/gvdoHIuDwuPwOhcWE8f8mmICq41eATkn8x0kuRTIKcB wE9+/QUtiiAnYcaN7wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksiBBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xh?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using packages compiled for 7.0-RELEASE in 8-CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:42:05 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 RW writes: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:09:05 +0530 > wahjava.ml@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla ____________ _______________) wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm having a confusion about installing packages compiled in >> 7.0-RELEASE in 8.0-CURRENT. I've 2 boxen, a 7.0-RELEASE-p5 and a >> 8-CURRENT. The 7.0-RELEASE-p5 is fully updated as of now, and has all >> updated ports available in the form of binary packages. Now, I'm >> wondering if it is okay to install those binary packages on my >> 8-CURRENT box. > There's no compat7x port to support 7.x packages on CURRENT. Oh, so iif there is some compat7x port on my 8.0-CURRENT box, then only I can use 7.0-RELEASE packages. Thanks for the reply. Ashish -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ·-- ·- ···· ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- % dig +short cname cdac.in @::1 ms.gov.in --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkj/rGMACgkQHy+EEHYuXnSJCgCfaTADqPjpEk4YeY3oUIxveACm in8AoM8PHuh1j2IMqwl8yKGA1CSOwoxf =pyH8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 23:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91861106567A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415378FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so15336ywe.13 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:56:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=XYaYCWYwUfmoS28Puxd8xCTML0GXzuCryQgNjqXxbFU=; b=nLVoswBIgeA/69taFB0zIqdogeRaSOex10Mg8oOwXuN2F93sh0m3aYKGMdqg8q+IiY hVAlAoPnZyxzbTg72uPb/PgJVHGCt4GAjnqf8LZyqq4GrRhDHRvX5DYtyEQKq2mgb8/r ShjTXPnFS7eEjSMfgrFI4AllHuoF3Mlxwk57w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=dvq5S+GucTeSZH7MZtEON5dSLLxIEeYvuMcOCwD6cSriGDClHDrJguf7jNv4jj/E0d D/5d4MA4YOIEFoxE0r5RpT33I3YufL/LEDhGKEyhHPPFZVg3sZFphJALsJY4cFpe2YTB 0yn70zof4MzGIN5dlpVZAu6ESEixiU8Iazxdk= Received: by 10.70.84.13 with SMTP id h13mr12534763wxb.75.1224719789250; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h35sm13940425wxd.3.2008.10.22.16.56.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:56:30 -0000 Hello there my friends. I happen to have this little problem and was wondering if somebody could have a quick answer. I'm fed up of reading man pages on my monitor, so I begun to turn them into pdf. In order to do so i just issue the following command: "man -t 3 getopt | ps2pdf14 - > man_getopt" It _does_ work, but the problem is that "man -t" ( -t == /usr/bin/groff -S -man) formats the man page in a really non-standart page size ( %%DocumentMedia: Default 612 792 0 () () ... << /PageSize [ 612 792 ] ) which .. well .. sucks .. Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain good ISO 216 standard A4 page size? In case you are wondering: yes, google didn't help and yes, the man pages for groff, troff, nroff, ditroff, huge list of etceteras didn't help either. and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the default choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US but useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the likes??? Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 00:35:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E43F106567A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09778FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from numardbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so24572wxc.7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:35:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:face:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4uGkKCovytw1l8gkTWzn4q5OyV8isDLGV+V5ol8Xhbk=; b=LSYBS31avDevUNrbdkZUQWnyB5GdFPmcz3yQhAxCpSLLSch/LTk2igzaKeJYMdzr/t sL8qlX6Ka7sMj5U/4xOrZgwDOGlrH3hBChaEIVPhZkkMDq02Q19pKT/c/RKroq15M2w1 STuV0jfABII8l91bbGBK4UjspoGRJnYWL6st8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gtN+OvybcROh/oU25lfBr7Lkpi1Ekt729KpWE7Uu3fxkRUJ6pU+kFhedwHO3j0WP2Z jKTKBRzgyKVSIRUAgbBJtJzQYHzYlPyZHcyp9Z6ie6EzU8SPZpulkPkbAn8xODkIYdk3 55ypGBwvLHM5wi68lkq+dCirtXoEvNCzrJTgU= Received: by 10.142.199.16 with SMTP id w16mr4670996wff.268.1224722110417; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayiin ([203.38.191.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm21852625wfc.12.2008.10.22.17.35.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:35:05 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081023113505.74aa668b@ayiin> In-Reply-To: <20081022191330.GA66142@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810222050687.SM01744@TX2.Go2France.com> <20081022191330.GA66142@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what else is needed to make ftp passive work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:35:13 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:13:30 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Inbound: TCP port 21 (main ftpd daemon) > Inbound: TCP ports 49152 to 65535 (used in FTP passive mode) > Outbound: TCP port 20 (used in FTP active mode) > > Yes, you read that range correctly. And yes, it's quite large. Yes, > there is a way to diminish it, but it will affect other programs on > FreeBSD, so I do not recommend adjusting it. It's controlled by > sysctls. See the -U option of ftpd, but note that it doesn't do > anything for FreeBSD 5.0 or later. as far as I remember, FTP servers (with the not so unexpected exception of MS IIS' FTP service) can be configured to listen on specific ports for passive transfers. If you don't have a busy server, a few ports ( 10 ? ) would do. Then you can firewall it as needed. This is, of course, an application (service ) configuration as opposed to what Jeremy mentioned, I believe , which relies on the servers "high ports" definition, which yes, will affect the whole tcp stack in the server. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome I sense much NT in you. NT leads to Bluescreen. Bluescreen leads to downtime. Downtime leads to suffering. NT is the path to the darkside. Powerful Unix is. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 00:38:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2AF1065680 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97C8FC1E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:38:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE9651CBD; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:38:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N0cerW005305; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:38:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:38:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gonzalo Nemmi Message-Id: <20081023023840.bdacc8b9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:38:44 -0000 Hi! On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain good ISO > 216 standard A4 page size? My suggfestion for an attempt would be to first strip any control characters from the output of "man -P cat " and then pipe it to an ASCII to PDF converter (a2ps, if I remember correctly); this would remove any markups, I know, but would lead to a PDF output using the system's default paper size, A4 (I hope). I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the default choice > for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US but useless in the > rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the likes??? You're getting my thoughts, man. :-) I'd like to see this happen, too, but I don't think the developers of FreeBSD and all the fine applications will say goodbye to their Letter, Legal, Exec etc. paper formats. A4 isn't a DIN standard anymore, its ISO for many years now, and unlike Letter, it has the ability to be scaled (to half size, to quarter size, to double size) easily. Today, the manual replacement of many different settings is needed to get a system A4 compliant. Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than a century now. =^_^= -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 01:19:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392861065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D88FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9N1JG6v005905; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9N1JGk9005902; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081023023840.bdacc8b9.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023023840.bdacc8b9.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:17 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:19:34 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain good ISO >> 216 standard A4 page size? > > My suggfestion for an attempt would be to first strip any control > characters from the output of "man -P cat " and then pipe > it to an ASCII to PDF converter (a2ps, if I remember correctly); > this would remove any markups, I know, but would lead to a PDF > output using the system's default paper size, A4 (I hope). But groff can do A4. Just as a first pass: zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - tmp.pdf It produces the right media size in the PS file, but I can't really test it because I don't have any A4 paper. Maybe there's a way to get man(1) to send different options to groff than -t, but I don't know it. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 01:35:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE748106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DBA8FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so535289gxk.19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject :content-disposition:from:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=wCfLMjSO8IJ4qvW/DkRuzDsTutkxrXgsP/ts564/M+o=; b=ee5h5eopGDYHtZVH7bwxWmuDTnPJhkO44c0QVBs0JLwjSRDZ4VskI4V4k80L5BTxnc KCZnNAGuqwl4od3aNVFjl6vTTfSdi73EjxqEwiNWlkvcSCq6/QAVliid0Zu+I6UQ/h+0 6qRFpaxJ5OS2WpHbM8xMRapUGRQc1rU1FMtE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:content-disposition:from:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=dOPnyoToF6ohWfvRCmW47QC4dwY8maLNLtPf/9CSfjPmOFxOSDVfYXgvJnmoxtw+fb vivv041tUnOX0nXh4wj72rlXNGSZslIFNxFE5Jw9OqxD5ilBZqgyyhlLz77lL71vyi8t jZIlSeuAb0n43kFb7efzDVhtfH0AaTxPiuQb8= Received: by 10.90.99.3 with SMTP id w3mr11253787agb.89.1224725732576; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm24486972yxt.1.2008.10.22.18.35.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:35:31 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline From: Gonzalo Nemmi Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:35:25 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:35:33 -0000 On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain good > > ISO 216 standard A4 page size? > > My suggfestion for an attempt would be to first strip any control > characters from the output of "man -P cat " and then pipe > it to an ASCII to PDF converter (a2ps, if I remember correctly); > this would remove any markups, I know, but would lead to a PDF > output using the system's default paper size, A4 (I hope). > > I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable > without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple > filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) > into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your explanantion, the question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting countries, have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple as an ISO compliant document?? Shouldn't it be the other way around??? Does an inmensily huge majority have to walk the extra mile in order to get an ISO compliant document whereas a small minority benefits from having non ISO complaint default formats??? I, for once, would pretty much like to know the logic behind that decision. > > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the default > > choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US but > > useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the > > likes??? > > You're getting my thoughts, man. :-) I'd like to see this happen, > too, but I don't think the developers of FreeBSD and all the fine > applications will say goodbye to their Letter, Legal, Exec etc. > paper formats. A4 isn't a DIN standard anymore, its ISO for many > years now, and unlike Letter, it has the ability to be scaled > (to half size, to quarter size, to double size) easily. Today, > the manual replacement of many different settings is needed to > get a system A4 compliant. > > Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than > a century now. =^_^= I really hope they do, or at least, start contemplating the fact that ISO standards are usefull as a whole or are not usefull at all .. Gretings from Argentina, where A4 is the standard from 1943. And yes .. so are the metric system, kilograms, litres, etc :) Sincere regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 01:40:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B775106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BCD8FC18 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 4876 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 02:43:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 02:43:11 -0000 Message-ID: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:40:25 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:40:27 -0000 hi all... i need to do a script to copy a file from a remote machine via scp with a key and without a password.... here is what i'm doing: 1. ssh-keygen -t rsa 2. scp new_key.pub to user@remote_host (with password) 3. on remote_host rename new_key.pub to ~user/.ssh/athorized_keys when i try: # scp user@remote_host:/files/file file i get password prompt... what am i missing?!? thanks.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 01:51:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7102A1065699 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ACD8FC1D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AD251D34; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:51:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N1p3Ag005824; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:51:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:51:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20081023035102.469988aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023023840.bdacc8b9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:51:06 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:16 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > But groff can do A4. Just as a first pass: > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - tmp.pdf > > It produces the right media size in the PS file, but I can't really test > it because I don't have any A4 paper. I checked it - excellent. The formatting of the structural elements works fine, the result is printable. I've just finished ~/bin/man2pdf. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 01:52:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED32C1065700 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3128FC1E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KspN8-000Fba-Lf; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:52:23 -0400 Message-ID: <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:52:21 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin m References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> In-Reply-To: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:52:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 kalin m wrote: > hi all... > > i need to do a script to copy a file from a remote machine via scp with > a key and without a password.... > > here is what i'm doing: > > 1. ssh-keygen -t rsa > 2. scp new_key.pub to user@remote_host (with password) > 3. on remote_host rename new_key.pub to ~user/.ssh/athorized_keys > > when i try: > # scp user@remote_host:/files/file file > > i get password prompt... > > what am i missing?!? > Hi Kalin, Here are a few things to try and check: - - Run scp with the "-vvv" flag to enable very verbose output. You may see something in the log messages during the connection phase that expose the problem. - - Check the /var/log/messages file on the host for debug messages from sshd. Are there any errors that indicate why public key authentication doesn't work? - - Check the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file contents. Is PubkeyAuthentication enabled? You can also change the LogLevel setting if you need more information emitted to /var/log/messages. Don't forget to send SIGHUP to sshd whenever you change sshd_config. - - Check the permissions on the the ~user/.ssh directory and the authorized_keys file. They have to be sufficiently tight (700 and 600, typically). Hope that helps, and post back here with any further questions. Regards, Greg Larkin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj/2NQACgkQ0sRouByUApD3jACgnHA1h6XmnOuAEQXsnBjCcZBZ /k8An2AIMx4CJSXuTDfrPCcBlb9rLFqA =9z7a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 02:09:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1444A1065676 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@sequestered.net) Received: from alcatraz.sequestered.net (alcatraz.sequestered.net [24.199.11.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E668C8FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@sequestered.net) Received: from [10.10.20.197] (rrcs-67-52-96-162.west.biz.rr.com [67.52.96.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jay@sequestered.net) by alcatraz.sequestered.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A328267FD4; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <7131CDCF-E6F4-49DD-9B86-605CEECAA73A@sequestered.net> From: Jay Chandler To: kalin m In-Reply-To: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:50:13 -0700 References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-Watermark: 1225331427.80798@upEqO6+zYhSMCWlicIADfQ X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Sequestered.net support for more information X-MailScanner-ID: A328267FD4.EAD17 X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.6, required 6, J_CHICKENPOX_23 0.60) X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-From: lists@sequestered.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:09:26 -0000 On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:40 PM, kalin m wrote: > hi all... > > i need to do a script to copy a file from a remote machine via scp > with a key and without a password.... > > here is what i'm doing: > > 1. ssh-keygen -t rsa > 2. scp new_key.pub to user@remote_host (with password) > 3. on remote_host rename new_key.pub to ~user/.ssh/athorized_keys > Should be authorized_keys. I usually cheat and grab a copy of ssh-copy-id from the web; I suspect your issue has to do with permissions for the .ssh directory and the authorized_keys file. -- Jay Chandler / KB1JWQ Living Legend / Systems Exorcist Today's Excuse: Budget cuts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 02:14:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED631065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88C78FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 12542 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 03:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 03:17:30 -0000 Message-ID: <48FFDE14.1080103@el.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:14:44 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Chandler References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <7131CDCF-E6F4-49DD-9B86-605CEECAA73A@sequestered.net> In-Reply-To: <7131CDCF-E6F4-49DD-9B86-605CEECAA73A@sequestered.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:14:46 -0000 Jay Chandler wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:40 PM, kalin m wrote: > >> hi all... >> >> i need to do a script to copy a file from a remote machine via scp >> with a key and without a password.... >> >> here is what i'm doing: >> >> 1. ssh-keygen -t rsa >> 2. scp new_key.pub to user@remote_host (with password) >> 3. on remote_host rename new_key.pub to ~user/.ssh/athorized_keys >> > Should be authorized_keys. it is. i just misspelled it in the message... > > I usually cheat and grab a copy of ssh-copy-id from the web; I suspect > your issue has to do with permissions for the .ssh directory and the > authorized_keys file. permissions are 600 for the file and 700 for .ssh the users are different on the local machine and remote_host. my guess is that if i point to the right key with -i it should work correct... now doing -vvv as Greg Larkin suggests... thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 02:41:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1A3106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608518FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 19082 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 03:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 03:44:31 -0000 Message-ID: <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:41:45 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:41:47 -0000 with -vvv i get this below: ............................................................. debug1: bits set: 1034/2048 debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct debug1: kex_derive_keys debug1: newkeys: mode 1 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: newkeys: mode 0 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: done: ssh_kex2. debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug3: preferred publickey,keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey debug1: next auth method to try is publickey debug1: try pubkey: id_rsa debug3: send_pubkey_test debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug3: authmethod_lookup keyboard-interactive debug3: remaining preferred: password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled keyboard-interactive debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive debug2: userauth_kbdint debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug3: userauth_kbdint: disable: no info_req_seen debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug3: authmethod_lookup password debug3: remaining preferred: debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password debug1: next auth method to try is password after this i get the password prompt.... why does it say try pubkey: id_rsa when id_rsa is supposed to be the private key? ?!?! Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > kalin m wrote: > >> hi all... >> >> i need to do a script to copy a file from a remote machine via scp with >> a key and without a password.... >> >> here is what i'm doing: >> >> 1. ssh-keygen -t rsa >> 2. scp new_key.pub to user@remote_host (with password) >> 3. on remote_host rename new_key.pub to ~user/.ssh/athorized_keys >> >> when i try: >> # scp user@remote_host:/files/file file >> >> i get password prompt... >> >> what am i missing?!? >> >> > > Hi Kalin, > > Here are a few things to try and check: > > - - Run scp with the "-vvv" flag to enable very verbose output. You may > see something in the log messages during the connection phase that > expose the problem. > > - - Check the /var/log/messages file on the host for debug messages from > sshd. Are there any errors that indicate why public key authentication > doesn't work? > > - - Check the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file contents. Is PubkeyAuthentication > enabled? You can also change the LogLevel setting if you need more > information emitted to /var/log/messages. Don't forget to send SIGHUP > to sshd whenever you change sshd_config. > > - - Check the permissions on the the ~user/.ssh directory and the > authorized_keys file. They have to be sufficiently tight (700 and 600, > typically). > > Hope that helps, and post back here with any further questions. > > Regards, > Greg Larkin > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkj/2NQACgkQ0sRouByUApD3jACgnHA1h6XmnOuAEQXsnBjCcZBZ > /k8An2AIMx4CJSXuTDfrPCcBlb9rLFqA > =9z7a > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 02:12:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E481065674 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from daisy2.compar.com (mail1.compar.com [216.208.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C3F8FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost.compar.com [127.0.0.1]) by daisy2.compar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2AF13C477; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:12:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at compar.com Received: from unknown by localhost (amavisd-new, unix socket) id 0gamNHVTqnq2; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM001ac3584898.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.255.62.215]) by daisy2.compar.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 89BA513C476; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <10BDBC68DA414886A21749B430CCFFC6@hermes> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: , "Gonzalo Nemmi" References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:12:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:46:33 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:12:27 -0000 > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi >> wrote: >> > Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain good >> > ISO 216 standard A4 page size? >> >> My suggfestion for an attempt would be to first strip any control >> characters from the output of "man -P cat " and then pipe >> it to an ASCII to PDF converter (a2ps, if I remember correctly); >> this would remove any markups, I know, but would lead to a PDF >> output using the system's default paper size, A4 (I hope). >> >> I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable >> without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple >> filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) >> into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. > > Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your explanantion, > the > question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting > countries, > have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple as > an > ISO compliant document?? > > Shouldn't it be the other way around??? Perhaps, but since the roots of *BSD are in the USA, letter was a sensible default (at the time). Now, if a collection of FreeBSD members from ISO 216 adopting companies wanted to figure out a way to put "default paper size" into some kind of locale option that man (and other tools) could use, then that would go a long way towards reducing the pain. -- Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:07:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A201065680 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9482D8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so27395yxb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:07:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=htq93UUXXUoNjqYyCycnXI16p5k6ZSHEiBKilIeczjc=; b=rDgXp3gSfoWcYzVEh2C4IcbhZazMGaXmQfh5gVjUHBrYmdfRzT/FyJ67+5kph4Or/+ wbNAQnxyc8ZZ5f5hg30lyJ8MfpFfAb+ko6pDRLWmbhFzjiwGvOV5KlxDrgtyxYBSZTJ5 gcWBacMmvjEat+CmgxBC6FSBI/FfLwkr3031w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=IHipSzWLtIQeBkyUXyUCzIbtburT8ScMGsA2vE+KE0fzTY5tZETu7sXRwYjgdX3LJR Dn+OCKBBd6YN6boss72ISc/aJ8p5J6urYhG4xV/Hfs3Rh+kivLmAJ9QiYRfc8+iYMpkJ uk5GXNwdnpLHphhc0rJ642+h62Lr12M3gGTfU= Received: by 10.90.52.1 with SMTP id z1mr25994agz.33.1224731238583; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm14352711agc.14.2008.10.22.20.07.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:07:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:07:11 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> <10BDBC68DA414886A21749B430CCFFC6@hermes> In-Reply-To: <10BDBC68DA414886A21749B430CCFFC6@hermes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810230107.11493.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:07:20 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 12:12:23 am Matt Emmerton wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi > >> > >> wrote: > >> > Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain > >> > good ISO 216 standard A4 page size? > >> > >> My suggfestion for an attempt would be to first strip any control > >> characters from the output of "man -P cat " and then pipe > >> it to an ASCII to PDF converter (a2ps, if I remember correctly); > >> this would remove any markups, I know, but would lead to a PDF > >> output using the system's default paper size, A4 (I hope). > >> > >> I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable > >> without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple > >> filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) > >> into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. > > > > Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your explanantion, > > the > > question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting > > countries, > > have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple as > > an > > ISO compliant document?? > > > > Shouldn't it be the other way around??? > > Perhaps, but since the roots of *BSD are in the USA, letter was a sensible > default (at the time). That's a fact and I couldn't agree more with your assertion. > Now, if a collection of FreeBSD members from ISO 216 adopting companies > wanted to figure out a way to put "default paper size" into some kind of > locale option that man (and other tools) could use, then that would go a > long way towards reducing the pain. > -- > Matt Now, and taking into consideration your 100% correct assumption and the fact that "letter was a sensible default (at the time)" wouldn't it make a lot more sense to do it the other way around? I mean .. What about figuring out a way to put "default paper size = letter" into some kind of locale option that man (and other tools) could use and turn the ISO 216 standard into the default option? Once again, your first assumption about the fact that "letter was a sensible default (at the time)" is 100% correct, but ... and having as a counterpoint that those times have changed dramatically is it so hard to see the benefits associated with adopting ISO 216 (A4 in particular) as default page size instead of letter? I don't work for an ISO 216 adopting company, and hopefully I never will, I don't speak for them, and hopefully I never will ... I'm just a citizen of the long list of countries who adhere to the ISO 216 and I'd really like to see FreeBSD apps slowly turn to use ISO 216 by default (or at least provide a painless flag like -pa4 or the likes) instead of non-standard formats which only benefit a portion of it's user base, putting the rest of us to stretchs in order to get optimal results. If there's an ISO standar, why not stick to it? I understand that it may have been an inconvenience in the past times .. but those times are long past now, and ISO 216 _is_the_standard_ to which _most_ countries (let alone companies) adhere :S With all due respect: that's my point. Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:11:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E852F1065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C962C8FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ksqc7-000GlD-6z; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:11:56 -0400 Message-ID: <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:11:54 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin m References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> In-Reply-To: <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:11:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 kalin m wrote: > > with -vvv i get this below: > > ............................................................. > debug1: bits set: 1034/2048 > debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct > debug1: kex_derive_keys > debug1: newkeys: mode 1 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent [...] > > after this i get the password prompt.... > > why does it say try pubkey: id_rsa when id_rsa is supposed to be the > private key? > > ?!?! > > Hi Kalin, Don't worry about that message - I see the same thing here with an ssh connection that succeeds. The "try pubkey" message displays a private key file. Did you check the sshd_config file on the server and the /var/log/messages file for additional hints? If you see anything interesting, please post the output here. Also make sure that PubkeyAuthentication is enabled ("on") in sshd_config. Regards, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj/63kACgkQ0sRouByUApAk/gCfTwdUyekSlWD2RFW1Bkmx57XH sbYAn0ArMnCOVybN/yomeu7XiOe+154f =MlC3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:13:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14376106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B218B8FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so36137ele.13 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:13:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=Uda3TAS3z3tEH+Wl3sybVmQl7rJSNQ/MKzoeE85ZLwA=; b=koqWn1r+0VsaJFT98Moyp6stghqhWtjUqZTTwcSkQemfuys8n0MaW+74xo+GZLzvvF Boh/yzFG5ox6Et0xJtENGIZwsoSqvu6CjOwOuNl/1y1lGSZp8/iisE2I63vQ8nt7AjpY znJb54d6DG/wK4v+scNqFgGVrLVzj45uKQhoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=qik0R1nKYkAEgZQnWXCXfpJfQILABrgzCiMEZWthJ8gvbKmRGszy8s/KiUO4jlpfqW SgC4nSCUCKGQKSOhi/aPG6JhqgjjwmrxjO95LiEr0fiPWlfL0+F5BShoifDFya8CubR5 S5KSkdp9D8HcRgMwwq0IaSLaUbfeZfs7lxsy8= Received: by 10.90.100.20 with SMTP id x20mr21984agb.56.1224731602692; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm12963921yxk.4.2008.10.22.20.13.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:13:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:13:16 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023023840.bdacc8b9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810230113.16928.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:13:24 -0000 On Wednesday 22 October 2008 11:19:16 pm Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:56:20 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > >> Is there an easy way to get man to format the man page using plain good > >> ISO 216 standard A4 page size? > > > > My suggfestion for an attempt would be to first strip any control > > characters from the output of "man -P cat " and then pipe > > it to an ASCII to PDF converter (a2ps, if I remember correctly); > > this would remove any markups, I know, but would lead to a PDF > > output using the system's default paper size, A4 (I hope). > > But groff can do A4. Just as a first pass: > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - tmp.pdf > > It produces the right media size in the PS file, but I can't really test > it because I don't have any A4 paper. > > Maybe there's a way to get man(1) to send different options to groff > than -t, but I don't know it. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA You just rule ... Thank you I mean it .. Thanks a lot :) My best regards :D -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:14:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C570910656A1 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706898FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so613313gxk.19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:14:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=4SOf3NQcCkBujFfqOiQZQEUkn+BYEfig6irqKQQs/Wg=; b=D1ciAJJt8lmSjhIT5916jKvIPuxY07W5ZKGbMF0bJFmWM8VGdTS8ZRtha2Jum51Jsx lOlTZJvCipiAfNVXu7vLpCP0F1VVuMMESgCH+877w2NpE2MBYuU0uWR6h4vsuasIXlOh /aRuijTQ7D8zhxtEknfDMT5hR/HIwclAF0FsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=KlC5ihlVq29hKjzt7lCrvXc7QB3lm+Tqx1d6UHVmQ/SIZlIBG9X7hqnCsv50oGllfJ rmgAZEvRSH4TZiEDBssqgdjUglHLXnEV+5Ah6SXwHnX9QYj/0YlVMkiw1AB9OHdlQIZz e4c53vqq0InqIuulLd4NjoU1c38v222ovI0vc= Received: by 10.90.103.13 with SMTP id a13mr19559agc.69.1224731656410; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 18sm14377664agb.12.2008.10.22.20.14.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:14:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:14:10 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023035102.469988aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023035102.469988aa.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810230114.10208.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:14:17 -0000 On Wednesday 22 October 2008 11:51:02 pm you wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:19:16 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > > But groff can do A4. Just as a first pass: > > > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - > > tmp.pdf > > > > It produces the right media size in the PS file, but I can't really test > > it because I don't have any A4 paper. > > I checked it - excellent. The formatting of the structural elements > works fine, the result is printable. > > I've just finished ~/bin/man2pdf. :-) Amm ... could you share it with us? Please, please, please??? :D -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:15:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C013106567B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434878FC1D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so127584wfg.7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:15:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=LGEWAtDG1D1kLjaEXdVAh3Ndl5uqhHCopDtxcDQGgOg=; b=DE1/PvfOAvWE5Wj+dTeGVkacDiFN08cme4HCsdnno7xPQPcVGAEdA5cb7qm94BjOpx zeZi7Gg6oMUPY3T9bCf+WZ9MPiH747+All/2a05jE8XwWaa6AY5iwnZr3jybXnFeVarZ g/KL4vNKFtm9gWjmcdEf3SPF+Wg9DtOYHPB6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=c2Yl0hYX+oQQlgVl9b9OdpL1zUx5d6r/at9FPJf+psLSkXI3/NqdVWa7n0QsX2imRs cocbpi8wVhTNpauqQRfwJ0KWS3d2j/1U9hJfbxNDf8yt6MYs5I0/gdRRroeIPPxYZXo3 s9UOwWZNcoWrE3FE1s7tJZvzW1OglccRiVUHs= Received: by 10.142.218.4 with SMTP id q4mr8150wfg.262.1224730519050; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.100.18 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:55:19 -0400 From: APseudoUtopia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:15:37 -0000 Hey, I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH access. Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel group, and root login is disabled in SSH. Thanks for any help/advice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:16:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E5F106569C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE918FC24 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 26273 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 04:19:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 04:19:19 -0000 Message-ID: <48FFEC91.1070908@el.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:16:33 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> In-Reply-To: <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:16:35 -0000 here is pretty much the same from another machine (os x laptop) with a dsa key: ................................................................................ debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug2: key: /private/var/root/.ssh/id_dsa (0x300e30) debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug3: preferred gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,publickey,keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Offering public key: /private/var/root/.ssh/id_dsa debug3: send_pubkey_test debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method <== ***** why didn't we?!? **** debug3: authmethod_lookup keyboard-interactive debug3: remaining preferred: password debug3: authmethod_is_enabled keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug2: userauth_kbdint debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug3: userauth_kbdint: disable: no info_req_seen debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug3: authmethod_lookup password debug3: remaining preferred: debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password debug1: Next authentication method: password kalin m wrote: > > with -vvv i get this below: > > ............................................................. > debug1: bits set: 1034/2048 > debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct > debug1: kex_derive_keys > debug1: newkeys: mode 1 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > debug1: newkeys: mode 0 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: done: ssh_kex2. > debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST > debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth > debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT > debug1: authentications that can continue: > publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug3: start over, passed a different list > publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug3: preferred publickey,keyboard-interactive,password > debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey > debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password > debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey > debug1: next auth method to try is publickey > debug1: try pubkey: id_rsa > debug3: send_pubkey_test > debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply > debug1: authentications that can continue: > publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method > debug3: authmethod_lookup keyboard-interactive > debug3: remaining preferred: password > debug3: authmethod_is_enabled keyboard-interactive > debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive > debug2: userauth_kbdint > debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply > debug1: authentications that can continue: > publickey,password,keyboard-interactive > debug3: userauth_kbdint: disable: no info_req_seen > debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method > debug3: authmethod_lookup password > debug3: remaining preferred: > debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password > debug1: next auth method to try is password > > after this i get the password prompt.... > > why does it say try pubkey: id_rsa when id_rsa is supposed to be the > private key? > > ?!?! > > > > > Greg Larkin wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> kalin m wrote: >> >>> hi all... >>> >>> i need to do a script to copy a file from a remote machine via scp with >>> a key and without a password.... >>> >>> here is what i'm doing: >>> >>> 1. ssh-keygen -t rsa >>> 2. scp new_key.pub to user@remote_host (with password) >>> 3. on remote_host rename new_key.pub to ~user/.ssh/athorized_keys >>> >>> when i try: >>> # scp user@remote_host:/files/file file >>> >>> i get password prompt... >>> >>> what am i missing?!? >>> >>> >> >> Hi Kalin, >> >> Here are a few things to try and check: >> >> - - Run scp with the "-vvv" flag to enable very verbose output. You may >> see something in the log messages during the connection phase that >> expose the problem. >> >> - - Check the /var/log/messages file on the host for debug messages from >> sshd. Are there any errors that indicate why public key authentication >> doesn't work? >> >> - - Check the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file contents. Is >> PubkeyAuthentication >> enabled? You can also change the LogLevel setting if you need more >> information emitted to /var/log/messages. Don't forget to send SIGHUP >> to sshd whenever you change sshd_config. >> >> - - Check the permissions on the the ~user/.ssh directory and the >> authorized_keys file. They have to be sufficiently tight (700 and 600, >> typically). >> >> Hope that helps, and post back here with any further questions. >> >> Regards, >> Greg Larkin >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkj/2NQACgkQ0sRouByUApD3jACgnHA1h6XmnOuAEQXsnBjCcZBZ >> /k8An2AIMx4CJSXuTDfrPCcBlb9rLFqA >> =9z7a >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:20:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC40D106567A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3468B8FC1F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 26879 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 04:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 04:23:44 -0000 Message-ID: <48FFED9A.40105@el.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:20:58 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:20:59 -0000 > Hi Kalin, > > Don't worry about that message - I see the same thing here with an ssh > connection that succeeds. The "try pubkey" message displays a private > key file. > > Did you check the sshd_config file on the server and the > /var/log/messages file for additional hints? If you see anything > interesting, please post the output here. Also make sure that > PubkeyAuthentication is enabled ("on") in sshd_config. > > thanks Greg... its actually PubkeyAuthentication yes it's the default.... there is nothing in the messages log. and i don't see any openssh logs.. thanks... > Regards, > Greg > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkj/63kACgkQ0sRouByUApAk/gCfTwdUyekSlWD2RFW1Bkmx57XH > sbYAn0ArMnCOVybN/yomeu7XiOe+154f > =MlC3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:25:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736531065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (lancer.b1c1l1.com [72.13.86.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1B18FC18 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (c-24-7-82-201.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.7.82.201]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9FF115C21; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FFEEAA.4060600@b1c1l1.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:25:30 -0700 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081008) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: APseudoUtopia References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8EEDF2AC06735DFDFAAAC461" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:25:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8EEDF2AC06735DFDFAAAC461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/22/08 19:55, APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hey, >=20 > I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my > box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root > logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH > access. >=20 > Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and > everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel > group, and root login is disabled in SSH. >=20 > Thanks for any help/advice. Login as the unprivileged user and run: $ su See su(1). --=20 Benjamin Lee --------------enig8EEDF2AC06735DFDFAAAC461 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJI/+6vAAoJEN/n9makEYTh4dcP/2JLibNRR7bHvkwZ1yGIesJi Fkn+OQAAukcL7d95Z+Rs3ptLHrsjQaUuq1P92sgqM4lcsIT37v4GW/78z07iDqGY rB0/JRkZxK9oSIvUbVJpbhMyS3Jzk9T4yWdbK01W7+yF5f/3NO9rFQbjJNhf8xAA MgN6o+moUpyElTzi3/S5FhCgBcAgREpx79L+2FWwnBVV/Jg5cfyPlY0A3CAdsMM4 /Af004vmurKDVqHDUPW+pBUBUMhJHnqrLlBmXF9mAEYvtzPin5KIZNopFir4/qxu R8eBhG1Ik5ytO8f52WBhpapesf06F0XMeKf+DmM1SzwKJdB51GI/kbAQ/PPJ0tmd 9ksUSh/d6stWrF7diw8zYjzfVIFdX5I+LHYxxImGJC4PSpSgB8CZqFA3dhZ1sBOl TRjSwqQp/2ZnCPULdyc7uLQWvlRaRhw/ZdDmO/18SMiQg9Mj0zoDY4SHsRLd9Wu6 R6Xo5bgl5SPiuDgqVvd2NNJAXIHV75KOZJwTRnNysQRuSUznUeFdwbZJkVkV9au/ pGTcuAevWgfIviYscHEQmO4ACE18ySC2zYwkohZJ1Y7dFjvhyI4HBXwxO/NElW9I W/71L3cyWCktp8sgcdtF8kBw/8e6lzWuezIZjPiIr4Z9NzqctVvtx8eKFXX3NT0t PHa+jXlEP3oCGxZEDtWe =OZP8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8EEDF2AC06735DFDFAAAC461-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:33:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA061065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3408FC1F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B71C51574; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:33:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N3XnFk006412; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:33:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:33:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gonzalo Nemmi Message-Id: <20081023053348.d21aca2a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200810230114.10208.gnemmi@gmail.com> References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023035102.469988aa.freebsd@edvax.de> <200810230114.10208.gnemmi@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:33:53 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:14:10 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > Amm ... could you share it with us? > Please, please, please??? > :D In basic (not in BASIC) it consists the same commands that Warren posted. It's a simple two line script without significant error checking, and of course coded in an ugly way (as it is used to scare people off the command line): #!/bin/sh [ $# != 0 ] && ( zcat `man -w $@` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - /tmp/man.pdf && gv /tmp/man.pdf && rm /tmp/man.pdf ) By the way, it's called ~/bin/pdfman here now, because man2pdf would suggest that it takes a manpage as input and gives a PDF file as output, but it doesn't - it's used just like man, but produces and displays (!) the manpage file right away, giving the user the choice to view and / or to print it (from within the viewer); I chose gv, but you can use xpdf, KDE's or Gnome's default PDF viewer or the thing from Acrobat, if you like. Afterwards, the PDF file, stored temporarily, is deleted. One of its disadvantages is that you cannot search within the PDF file such as you can from within man's default pager less, using the / key. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:40:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF18E1065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D178FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8056865; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:40:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8056862; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:40:26 -0400 Message-ID: <48FFF22A.7070309@radel.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:40:26 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Lee References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> <48FFEEAA.4060600@b1c1l1.com> In-Reply-To: <48FFEEAA.4060600@b1c1l1.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040500000004090300080600" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:40:46 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040500000004090300080600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Benjamin Lee wrote: > On 10/22/08 19:55, APseudoUtopia wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my >> box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root >> logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH >> access. >> >> Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and >> everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel >> group, and root login is disabled in SSH. >> >> Thanks for any help/advice. > > Login as the unprivileged user and run: > > $ su > > See su(1). > > Noting with care the following paragraph: PAM is used to set the policy su(1) will use. In particular, by default only users in the ``wheel'' group can switch to UID 0 (``root''). This group requirement may be changed by modifying the ``pam_group'' section of /etc/pam.d/su. See pam_group(8) for details on how to modify this setting. which may well be why the OP keeps stressing that his unprivileged user is not in the wheel group. ;-) --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms040500000004090300080600 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEG2TkfF/93Sx9LCftry1D3YwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDMyNDE2NTkyMVoX DTA5MDMyNDE2NTkyMVowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDPdCxQufreHHDAI9YN2axx87Rf 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cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:47:22 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810222156.20959.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230114.10208.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023053348.d21aca2a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023053348.d21aca2a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810230147.22975.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:47:30 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 1:33:48 am Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:14:10 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > Amm ... could you share it with us? > > Please, please, please??? > > > > :D > > In basic (not in BASIC) it consists the same commands that Warren > posted. It's a simple two line script without significant error > checking, and of course coded in an ugly way (as it is used to scare > people off the command line): > > #!/bin/sh > [ $# != 0 ] && ( zcat `man -w $@` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | > ps2pdf - /tmp/man.pdf && gv /tmp/man.pdf && rm /tmp/man.pdf ) > > By the way, it's called ~/bin/pdfman here now, because man2pdf > would suggest that it takes a manpage as input and gives a PDF > file as output, but it doesn't - it's used just like man, but > produces and displays (!) the manpage file right away, giving > the user the choice to view and / or to print it (from within > the viewer); I chose gv, but you can use xpdf, KDE's or Gnome's > default PDF viewer or the thing from Acrobat, if you like. > Afterwards, the PDF file, stored temporarily, is deleted. > > One of its disadvantages is that you cannot search within the PDF > file such as you can from within man's default pager less, using > the / key. Your rule too :D Will try to make a perl version of it (just for fun and because I like perl a lot .. hate me if you so desire .. I know I desereve it :) ) and post it as soon as it works ok :) Thanks a lot for your support Polytropon :) PS: now we have pdf man pages in A4 format :D :D :D Best regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:50:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67E41065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6234B8FC18 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so57504tid.3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:50:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=bty6dyIAqFraWZtftj3zNo3jjZGcqjClBj3eQru0kZM=; b=B1LFzC7H11jG9QvkscD3VQ3eoeSQmm1Go6RfuR6L9iae8fMsdyRy76qle3+/06Uaj6 +q5eRkxstM3XI9mrtOYonX2psop8EMGH2vkhAloSS3j2Uf4IqnW8bLYZr/LTsvv4mJjf ey1BcAU2zIC1p45hoHznWKCtuF90jFqcIIjIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Mhkxtsp2clhr7fDjp04FM7ysXEyW2X8PO7xOrn5Oocipb+4zGFG2xzA8KerpKSn2xJ sSNd1dJz/GqgiTNTTVGuVe/ALhfUumSXeBwZLiCOXp5T9+Xm/az7z0RDbzkhzbfa76RZ J1xDxCek+SD8quMJg9+3bQKmaYaue39pCi+Xc= Received: by 10.110.11.7 with SMTP id 7mr23839tik.43.1224731917907; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.69.7 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84b68b3d0810222018j1d6b78b0s694190ddc5244995@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:48:37 +0530 From: "Amitabh Kant" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: does hardware upgrade requires reconfiguration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:50:12 -0000 Hi I currently have a single processor/4gb ram machine with me which I am thinking to upgrade to dual proc and 8gb ram. Does installing extra processor requires re-configuration or re-installation of the os? The extra processor will be mounted on the same motherboard. With regards Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 03:59:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EE41065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 288898FC2B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 35246 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2008 03:59:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ptZIJdz1m/hP/JMasYYBGrs4PVsLlI1MTzEoTB8Yvc7dw4emStaqJIJRmYjlGlKZo+zLCGGM4We2uyYXd/kv3dhX/UzIeP/lPpONSbJOHnarc5zhhUAm4psgwHmaOcA4sG181ZzsjLeSutZ95Xs7xjJPgBrafTBDNFhdZTFgBYQ=; X-YMail-OSG: j1Lu6UYVM1nZlCWTqIdoqZu1AWMbu9DR.25BsC6m4aD7tsCZrhAFoEHM4tuNF5282WVMTCy6ApWfr4vfQfMjoxceuYM8jD6Xhjkesv2cj_hOgR_Zrp1YxlKRHxoMJGRzeNNh4XU2hjd4V5c8FD4s19t5bOFTQNF5hvtZC48qF_jqO6mygFvOu4WXQkP8Sw-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:59:15 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:59:15 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: APseudoUtopia , Benjamin Lee In-Reply-To: <48FFEEAA.4060600@b1c1l1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <413635.33527.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:59:16 -0000 He said his unprivileged user isn't in the wheel group. To answer the initial question, you'll need to login to the system on the local console. You cannot get root access via the network unless you're running another remote access service besides ssh which will allow you to login as root directly. - mdh --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Benjamin Lee wrote: > From: Benjamin Lee > Subject: Re: Locked out of Root > To: "APseudoUtopia" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:25 PM > > Login as the unprivileged user and run: > > $ su > > See su(1). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 04:07:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F271065674 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768D88FC22 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9N47Zh7006466; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:07:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9N47ZT5006463; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:07:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:07:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gonzalo Nemmi In-Reply-To: <200810230107.11493.gnemmi@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> <10BDBC68DA414886A21749B430CCFFC6@hermes> <200810230107.11493.gnemmi@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:07:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:07:38 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Thursday 23 October 2008 12:12:23 am Matt Emmerton wrote: >> >> Perhaps, but since the roots of *BSD are in the USA, letter was a sensible >> default (at the time). > > That's a fact and I couldn't agree more with your assertion. > >> Now, if a collection of FreeBSD members from ISO 216 adopting companies >> wanted to figure out a way to put "default paper size" into some kind of >> locale option that man (and other tools) could use, then that would go a >> long way towards reducing the pain. > > Now, and taking into consideration your 100% correct assumption and the fact > that "letter was a sensible default (at the time)" wouldn't it make a lot > more sense to do it the other way around? Given history and POLA, probably not. > I mean .. What about figuring out a way to put "default paper size = letter" > into some kind of locale option that man (and other tools) could use and turn > the ISO 216 standard into the default option? Having a new default that is different from the historical one can be a problem for legacy stuff. > I don't work for an ISO 216 adopting company, and hopefully I never will, I > don't speak for them, and hopefully I never will ... I'm just a citizen of > the long list of countries who adhere to the ISO 216 and I'd really like to > see FreeBSD apps slowly turn to use ISO 216 by default (or at least provide a > painless flag like -pa4 or the likes) instead of non-standard formats which > only benefit a portion of it's user base, putting the rest of us to stretchs > in order to get optimal results. Don't mistake the lack of a feature like global page size settings for a refusal. Maybe it's hard to do, or there just hasn't been enough need to motivate someone to implement it. The strength of open source software is that users can make improvements they need. So consider this your opportunity to help. A good start would just be determining which programs need to be modified. A check for similar work in other operating systems would be very useful. Finally, a proposal for the way to implement the change, and maybe even patches. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 04:12:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B641D1065679 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EF98FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B266519B5; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N4C0eE006793; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:12:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:12:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Amitabh Kant" Message-Id: <20081023061200.f6c9a7d7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <84b68b3d0810222018j1d6b78b0s694190ddc5244995@mail.gmail.com> References: <84b68b3d0810222018j1d6b78b0s694190ddc5244995@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does hardware upgrade requires reconfiguration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:12:04 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:48:37 +0530, "Amitabh Kant" wrote: > Does installing extra > processor requires re-configuration or re-installation of the os? The > extra processor will be mounted on the same motherboard. In most cases, no, because the GENERIC kernel is ready for multiprocessor use. You should see changes in dmesg oztput as soon as you changed the hardware, and the OS should be able to utilize the new processor, as well as the upgraded RAM. If you're using a custom kernel without SMP support, it may (!) be a problem, but I'm not sure about this. Finally, it's hard not to say: "Man, this is FreeBSD, and not 'Windows'!" :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 04:14:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2785B1065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DE18FC1D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ksrab-000HZN-BP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:14:26 -0400 Message-ID: <48FFFA20.1040407@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:14:24 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin m References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> <48FFED9A.40105@el.net> In-Reply-To: <48FFED9A.40105@el.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:14:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 kalin m wrote: > >> Hi Kalin, >> >> Don't worry about that message - I see the same thing here with an ssh >> connection that succeeds. The "try pubkey" message displays a private >> key file. >> >> Did you check the sshd_config file on the server and the >> /var/log/messages file for additional hints? If you see anything >> interesting, please post the output here. Also make sure that >> PubkeyAuthentication is enabled ("on") in sshd_config. >> >> > thanks Greg... its actually > > PubkeyAuthentication yes > > it's the default.... > > there is nothing in the messages log. and i don't see any openssh logs.. > thanks... Hi Kalin, Please try the following command, and let me know if you see any output from it. If so, please post it here. grep sshd /var/log/messages | tail -20 Regards, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj/+h8ACgkQ0sRouByUApB/wwCeJyWSvft0FsU+5KJNCNgj6ybQ xeMAoIKSPU8tZ5G8pKkJakAUMzcq71wR =CweV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 04:30:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832721065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3060B8FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081023042959.KDEA18931.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:29:59 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 7C7D17163C35F869; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1FB645D; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48FFFDC6.9090206@telus.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:29:58 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> <20081022153034.L2152@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081022153034.L2152@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:30:00 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>>> disk will be overwritten). Add another disk to this mirror, so >>>> it will >>>> be synchronized with existing disk: >>>> >>>> gmirror label -v -b round-robin data da0 >>> >>> add -s like -s 1048576 to prevent splitting one >>> request on 2 disks. >> >> I thought the -s option was only applicable when using "-b split" for >> the balancing algorithm. Does "round-robin" not mean simply >> alternating between the two disks without ever splitting requests? > > no. it means for example with -s 65536 and 1MB request - it will split > this request on 2 disks > So there is no difference between "split" and "round-robin" algorithms then? Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 04:58:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939551065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327F08FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so676544gxk.19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:58:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=zBBT134+8Jx82nJCsm6K/xnUNfWvZyuHC5pVPwb+dHA=; b=ISsT4xN+AEexrA05Kf2MTX2lSQolR5GUX84F69rfpIH2N8KNtt6nownsDIlWyoKvkF nU7eEDQLhNq/aMiHs2Bwx6+W4Mq2ZLt6nUZHkyt5AcLD75xUg9z7fNibX8svkjtxu4ys RpChjcmjjx/qxeSpP5+u2+iaeupBGbnxPlVyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=Qjwu0ogBonE+WotaWiESDMQyLW8Mmj5l9+n8iRTS8igfO9uusBCMntMVIIu6hMLl6e 98Nzf6efzTtbh+MvnPvXpgUJRFwhrWfB8bzq0Guf8dxvXMUmf5iQDbi9VxDUzvvD35xG oHcCqPcskY29zmgMe+QuvQ3wcWyOfFo9W7V8M= Received: by 10.70.117.7 with SMTP id p7mr184363wxc.29.1224737928285; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm24855507yxm.0.2008.10.22.21.58.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:58:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:58:42 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230107.11493.gnemmi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810230258.42153.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:58:49 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 2:07:35 am Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Thursday 23 October 2008 12:12:23 am Matt Emmerton wrote: > >> Perhaps, but since the roots of *BSD are in the USA, letter was a > >> sensible default (at the time). > > > > That's a fact and I couldn't agree more with your assertion. > > > >> Now, if a collection of FreeBSD members from ISO 216 adopting companies > >> wanted to figure out a way to put "default paper size" into some kind of > >> locale option that man (and other tools) could use, then that would go a > >> long way towards reducing the pain. > > > > Now, and taking into consideration your 100% correct assumption and the > > fact that "letter was a sensible default (at the time)" wouldn't it make > > a lot more sense to do it the other way around? > > Given history and POLA, probably not. With all due respect, history changes .. it's in its nature .. and I not claiming authority in anyway whatsoever (if that's what POLA stands for). Im just saying there might be room for improvement and that switching from non-standard "letter" to standard ISO 216 does represent and improvement indeed. > > I mean .. What about figuring out a way to put "default paper size = > > letter" into some kind of locale option that man (and other tools) could > > use and turn the ISO 216 standard into the default option? > > Having a new default that is different from the historical one can be a > problem for legacy stuff. 100% agreed ... Brainstorming .. im thinking maybe there should be no app defined default (in this case).. Maybe you just threw the key on the table .. and default should be what an enviromental setting says default should be (PAGESIZE=letter, PAGESIZE=a4) and not what the apps thinks it should be ... Furthermore .. maybe the app should halt if it finds no enviromental setting is available and ask the user to set it in order to know how to proceed. Just brainstorming.. Nothing is farther from the truth than me or than whatever comes from my mind. > > I don't work for an ISO 216 adopting company, and hopefully I never will, > > I don't speak for them, and hopefully I never will ... I'm just a citizen > > of the long list of countries who adhere to the ISO 216 and I'd really > > like to see FreeBSD apps slowly turn to use ISO 216 by default (or at > > least provide a painless flag like -pa4 or the likes) instead of > > non-standard formats which only benefit a portion of it's user base, > > putting the rest of us to stretchs in order to get optimal results. > > Don't mistake the lack of a feature like global page size settings for a > refusal. Maybe it's hard to do, or there just hasn't been enough need > to motivate someone to implement it. Never did, never will. It resides in the very nature of OSS that refusals are nothing but a mere illusion .. As you implied in your aforemention paragraph it only takes motivated individuals to turn refusals into realities. > The strength of open source software is that users can make improvements > they need. So consider this your opportunity to help. Exactly... and I think I just begun to do that :) > A good start would just be determining which programs need to be > modified. A check for similar work in other operating systems would be > very useful. Finally, a proposal for the way to implement the change, > and maybe even patches. Well .. we seem to have a start about which programs need to be modified ... It gets a little tougher regarding other operting system given that FreeBSD is the only one running on my only PC :'( Thanks for your expert advise Warren (I mean it). I'll dedicate the next few days to think on a scheme to solve this issue in the most elegant, less prone to error and less disruptive way to solve this matter, altough, at least at first glance, letting an eviromental setting define the size of the page to use seems to be most friendly and transparent way to let the user decide the size of the page to use with out too much hassel. I would really like to know what do you think about that approach. > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Yours -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 05:50:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C7A1065738 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2D8FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C307B16C00EE; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:50:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N5nr0T009305; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:49:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:49:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gonzalo Nemmi Message-Id: <20081023074953.9b2c4c2d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200810230258.42153.gnemmi@gmail.com> References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230107.11493.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230258.42153.gnemmi@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:50:02 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:58:42 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > Brainstorming .. im thinking maybe there should be no app defined default (in > this case).. Maybe you just threw the key on the table .. and default should > be what an enviromental setting says default should be (PAGESIZE=letter, > PAGESIZE=a4) and not what the apps thinks it should be ... There is something similar placable into /etc/make.conf: PAGE= A4 PAPERSIZE= a4 A4= yes But this is of course not honoured by applications at run time, and only by a few at compile time. > Furthermore .. > maybe the app should halt if it finds no enviromental setting is available > and ask the user to set it in order to know how to proceed. Another idea would to conclude the paper size from a locale setting, let's say, if it's en_US, then select letter, or A4 else. For example, programs like Gimp require a setting to be done manually from within the printing dialog. It shouldn't be there. Things like paper size should be set at system level, not neccessarily at application level. It will make things easier when administrating a system - set paper size once, then forget it. An idea would be to place the paper size setting "near" your printing filter (not the spooler) and advice applications to read it from there, maybe from a file, maybe from an environmental variable. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:06:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E64D1065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5618FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 56402 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 07:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@68.173.244.62) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 07:08:47 -0000 Message-ID: <49001448.1010101@el.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:06:00 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> <48FFED9A.40105@el.net> <48FFFA20.1040407@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48FFFA20.1040407@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:06:03 -0000 > > Hi Kalin, > > Please try the following command, and let me know if you see any output > from it. If so, please post it here. > > grep sshd /var/log/messages | tail -20 > i did that earlier...... the last record for sshd is from 10.14, more than a week ago.... > Regards, > Greg > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkj/+h8ACgkQ0sRouByUApB/wwCeJyWSvft0FsU+5KJNCNgj6ybQ > xeMAoIKSPU8tZ5G8pKkJakAUMzcq71wR > =CweV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:12:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0FF106567F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D648FC1C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FD251A12; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N6Cmki009408; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kalin m Message-Id: <20081023081248.d185ed7b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49001448.1010101@el.net> References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> <48FFED9A.40105@el.net> <48FFFA20.1040407@FreeBSD.org> <49001448.1010101@el.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:12:53 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:06:00 -0400, kalin m wrote: > > grep sshd /var/log/messages | tail -20 > > > > i did that earlier...... the last record for sshd is from 10.14, more > than a week ago.... What about /var/log/auth.log? Maybe this file gives some information... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:19:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D280F1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8939D8FC2A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so719091gxk.19 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:19:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=e1vBFlx+SnmR/Pm159ENhYUdU54Ildt8W1HsWsZ+mrM=; b=RKjQptkBJGvMB5NbpYd4aE0oHuSar4ptAEV57rxsYmUmtKDe7Io1K6nN2PJIjSp+b0 JlWUbYYc18Sxx9pVBwk4BfklYv1oYSXlzemlX47wZPPwQcxa77ol4p3N+zVPO9oykjUu xx63ITu41tDmePF7n3MH9CZoAMrUvxcjPjTBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=jxSRe3pT0ZBkXUFGlHzQ6kG9FE1BkVs/VPU3FDBjXgUQul8uEcrazz0XMuGGH5ofoY fw0xDpnFLs0id6dnOwN1AgkH1TJZZPh+OAaukOx0VDKZ9Bo7pL26Twp9nGpAWsxMQmxH HAag3drLbWRz3h9Suh5oEUNfXeWmkeXrDqlUw= Received: by 10.90.73.17 with SMTP id v17mr126395aga.1.1224742747704; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-219-62.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.219.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm24965066yxg.6.2008.10.22.23.19.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:19:02 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230258.42153.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20081023074953.9b2c4c2d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023074953.9b2c4c2d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810230419.02539.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:19:09 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 3:49:53 am Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:58:42 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > Brainstorming .. im thinking maybe there should be no app defined default > > (in this case).. Maybe you just threw the key on the table .. and default > > should be what an enviromental setting says default should be > > (PAGESIZE=letter, PAGESIZE=a4) and not what the apps thinks it should be > > ... > > There is something similar placable into /etc/make.conf: > > PAGE= A4 > PAPERSIZE= a4 > A4= yes > > But this is of course not honoured by applications at run time, > and only by a few at compile time. > > > Furthermore .. > > maybe the app should halt if it finds no enviromental setting is > > available and ask the user to set it in order to know how to proceed. > > Another idea would to conclude the paper size from a locale setting, > let's say, if it's en_US, then select letter, or A4 else. Exactly ... you just avoided a "halt" due to undefined env setting :) > For example, programs like Gimp require a setting to be done manually > from within the printing dialog. It shouldn't be there. Things like > paper size should be set at system level, not neccessarily at > application level. It will make things easier when administrating > a system - set paper size once, then forget it. And even if you (as the admin or through /usr/share/skel/*) set it once and forget about it, every user would still be able to set/override his preferred default paper/page size via .cshrc or the like just as we decide whether to use "less" or "more" as a pager ;) So paper/page size would be determined at app run time on a case by case basis :) As a side effect, we just took the burden of letting devels decide what "default" action should be ... if no arg is given, switch to default, which will read the value assigned to PAGESIZE or resort to en_US to default to "letter" or A4 if else, should PAGESIZE not be defined. As a consecuence, those who have en_US will always have "letter" as default (regardless of whether they set PAGESIZE or not). And the rest of us will be happy with A4 or would still have the chance to set PAGESIZE=letter. And best of it all is: app default behaviour never changed ! The only diference is that it will read an env before acting ... that env "changes" the way the app behaves. But that change is transparent to the user ;) > An idea would be to place the paper size setting "near" your > printing filter (not the spooler) and advice applications to read > it from there, maybe from a file, maybe from an environmental > variable. Well .. I think that makes two of us now :D Regards ! PS: now I want to send you a postcard of my city (Buenos Aires)! Send me your address on a private mail if you'd like to get it :) -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:24:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9B01065674 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C82C8FC2C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 21690 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2008 09:44:22 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 23 Oct 2008 09:44:22 +0300 In-Reply-To: <84b68b3d0810222018j1d6b78b0s694190ddc5244995@mail.gmail.com> To: "Amitabh Kant" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.3 September 26, 2007 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:24:57 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 23.10.2008 09:24:53, Serialize complete at 23.10.2008 09:24:53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does hardware upgrade requires reconfiguration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:24:56 -0000 Hi, Well, the answer is both yes and no :) If you have compiled a kernel, which supports multiple processors: options SMP or you have copied most of /sys//conf/SMP the processor will be discovered and used without any additional configurations. If you currently use all 4GB RAM - PAE config or amd64 or simmilar branch - the extra RAM will be used without any reconfiguration. If any or both of the above are not true - you have to change the options in the kernel configuration file and recompile the kernel. Hope this will help you :) Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Deputy Head of IT Department ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD "Amitabh Kant" Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 23.10.2008 06:52 To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc Subject does hardware upgrade requires reconfiguration? Hi I currently have a single processor/4gb ram machine with me which I am thinking to upgrade to dual proc and 8gb ram. Does installing extra processor requires re-configuration or re-installation of the os? The extra processor will be mounted on the same motherboard. With regards Amitabh _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:34:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E871065676 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C5F8FC2A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQuADi0/0i9pS0XPGdsb2JhbACBdpFvAQEBATUBrByDTg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,468,1220245200"; d="scan'208";a="139471113" Received: from nlpiport02.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.117]) by nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2008 01:18:41 -0500 Received: from dsl-189-165-45-23.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.mx) ([189.165.45.23]) by nlpiport02.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2008 01:18:41 -0500 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:18:51 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <616535476.544901224602665091.JavaMail.root@sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <616535476.544901224602665091.JavaMail.root@sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810222318.51241.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> Subject: Re: Printing to a Lanier LD160c does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:34:04 -0000 El Mar 21 Oct 2008, ajphanks@comcast.net escribi=C3=B3: > > I took your block above and replaced my block in the printcap, then sent > the exact command above with the same failure. The queue is drained and t= he > printer's log has a generic message "The job was reset." message.=C2=A0 > > My current printcap file. > > admincolor:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dadmincolor:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rp=3Dlp:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/adminc= olor:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: > it sounds like LPD is working OK (send the job to the printer), the problem= is=20 the print job (the language PS/PCL) or in the printer (no configured). how do you configure this printer in windows (LPR port)? can you print to a file in windows, bring that file to FreeBSD and send it= =20 with lpr -P admincolor FileInWindows.bin did you check the next URL? http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=3DLanier-LD160c maps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:42:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249BC1065679 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14D18FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 67550 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Oct 2008 07:44:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@68.173.244.62) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 23 Oct 2008 07:44:54 -0000 Message-ID: <49001CBF.7090102@el.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:42:07 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <48FFD609.6090206@el.net> <48FFD8D5.9050100@FreeBSD.org> <48FFE469.9040404@el.net> <48FFEB7A.4000907@FreeBSD.org> <48FFED9A.40105@el.net> <48FFFA20.1040407@FreeBSD.org> <49001448.1010101@el.net> <20081023081248.d185ed7b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023081248.d185ed7b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:42:10 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:06:00 -0400, kalin m wrote: > >>> grep sshd /var/log/messages | tail -20 >>> >>> >> i did that earlier...... the last record for sshd is from 10.14, more >> than a week ago.... >> > > What about /var/log/auth.log? Maybe this file gives some > information... > you were right Polytropon. ownership of the root directory for the user. it's not in home.... i was looking for something like sshd.log but it is auth.log.. thanks a lot to all.... now it's working... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:51:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CD6106567F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from green_tiger@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F208FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from green_tiger@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W6Cw1a00K1GhbT8576bEXh; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:35:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([69.250.45.68]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W6bR1a0061UFfxx3T6bSev; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:35:27 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o3sXJNB0RIco-Du_GdAA:9 a=dRxs5yuztmeGkIWGn8AA:7 a=stghEMrEurIlO3_We4U9VVFkCfkA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=CxxBEWHeI7sA:10 Message-ID: <49001B2D.4090706@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:35:25 -0400 From: "John L. Templer" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081004) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:51:32 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300, "Odhiambo Washington" wrote: >> I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio >> player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in >> WAV format, or even MP3? > > If the DVD does contain standard audio CD format data, there should > be no problem. First, check the contents: > > % cdcontrol info > > (I'll assume that /dev/acd0 is the drive the DVD is inserted into.) > > Then you can access every track via /dev/acd0txx, where xx is from 01 > up to the number of tracks. Tracks can be copied from the DVD with > the dd command: > > % dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 Very cool! I have a few questions though. I notice this doesn't work for my Plextor CD writer. I assume this is because CD and DVD drives have different drivers? Also, does this use libparanoia or something similar to extract "recalcitrant" tracks? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 06:59:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD0C106567C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AE08FC1D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so188188rvf.43 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:59:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KqETLQQWaXZgyCZ52+XCSlWr0R1OSCeml6+S4HfSi8E=; b=YuwkEZHkUJn45QxwPLzRn1CfIQb3q3ehbyqVqRkJafBeki2NRkBkL0oluUe0v3LAXA yOW5X6VdZeRe1+ug/ZLKDQ4qb6NQxV0Df4fVefHIMydVKkn/7BEN83ut96OTNnFlcMUB 5kVf2EKPrNwfTr5CQNB49e0FrJV1EILFehBKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aHw1A+S7h5anttNKi39GUZC0yndWvwsle2/e8O4qh2ILejIw+05pmbJ//AUFkyEzXr fpJH0bmLNQnRnQ9rkUh1PLThtL/TuX+VTTYCBZuDZkp4O4cU7kiqTbnTifgRd9NQcedu 8t5ZR2jv1Sij22yVzIYA6W+sofQQPffES8R28= Received: by 10.142.139.19 with SMTP id m19mr127247wfd.154.1224745197769; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:59:57 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Mike Clarke" In-Reply-To: <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:59:58 -0000 May i ask a question. Why do you use phpmyadmin from ports? It installs lots of libraries hence possible security threats in the future. So instead of taking care of updating a bunch of libraries just for phpmyadmin why don't you simply download it from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/, put in the apache doc root, set it up and so you have to take care to update it when a new version comes out. my 2 cents, v On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Wednesday 22 October 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > Hmmm... not entirely sure what has actually gone wrong there, but I > > suspect your /var/db/pkg directory is probably in a bit of a mess. > > Deinstalling phpMyAdmin is simply a matter of removing almost all of > > the files under /usr/local/www/phpMyAdmin -- the only one the port > > tries to preserve is config.inc.php > > Yes, I knew phpMyAdmin kept all its files in one place so replacing it > with the new version by hand was possible if all else failed but the > ports system would have still thought it had version 2 and I was rather > unsure what problems the inconsistency might create later. > . > > Can you try: > > > > ~ # pkg_delete -f phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 > > Yes, I'd already done that with the same segfault. > > > If the worst comes to the worst, you can do this (which is certainly > > *not* recommended in the general case, just it happens to work for > > phpMyAdmin which is a port without other things depending on it, and > > that installs everything into one directory): > > > > ~ # cd /usr/local/www > > ~ # cp phpMyAdmin/config.inc.php /root > > ~ # rm -rf phpMyAdmin > > ~ # cd /var/db/pkg > > ~ # rm -rf phpMyAdmin-2.11.5.2 > > ~ # pkgdb -F > > That did the trick, thanks for the help. > > > Note: there's no need to reinstall phpMyAdmin because you've upgraded > > Apache or even PHP. phpMyAdmin is all native PHP code and identical > > on disk for whatever combination of PHP interpreter and web server > > you use. You just need to copy the Apache config stuff into the new > > httpd.conf (ie. based on what 'pkg_info -Dx phpMyAdmin' produces). > > Yes, but in this case I'd moved my web server temporarily onto another > machine while I (slowly) upgraded the hardware on this box, hence the > removal of Apache and PHP. After getting the new hardware back into > service I installed the newer versions of Apache and PHP, it was just > by chance that there was still a copy of phpMyAdmin on the system but > in view of the security vulnerability in 2.11.5.2 I thought I'd better > replace it with 3.0.0_1. > > -- > Mike Clarke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 07:05:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BF6106567B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83DE8FC2A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W6yX1a0090ldTLk5175tcp; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:05:53 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W75s1a0082P6wsM3Q75seS; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:05:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4VZKEhmwntcA:10 a=sntlU3ZaAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=P5oN_75EwL859fiAqCoA:9 a=XWEhu1LpiR_Tk2vl20cA:7 a=Qsk7_0qxaYYlPxA8Jy3WK4-CThsA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40AB4C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:05:52 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Valentin Bud Message-ID: <20081023070552.GA79445@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:05:59 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 08:59:57AM +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: > May i ask a question. Why do you use phpmyadmin from ports? It installs > lots of libraries hence possible security threats in the future. So instead > of > taking care of updating a bunch of libraries just for phpmyadmin why don't > you simply download it from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/, put in the apache > doc > root, set it up and so you have to take care to update it when a new version > comes > out. > my 2 cents, > v You're talking about the dependencies it has on bzip2, GD, OpenSSL, PDF, zlib, mcrypt, and mbstring. These are *optional*; nothing stops you from unchecking them in "make config". However, be aware that removing some of them will cause phpmyadmin to work fine, but emit warning messages to the user that feature is not available. This is why said features are enabled by default. I do not advocate downloading software and just "dumping it" into some directory on a machine; if you really want to go that route, then why use ports at all? Heck, why use FreeBSD, just use Slackware Linux. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 07:32:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D7A106569B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D068FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9N7WU5U008267; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:32:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9N7WTjE008264; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:32:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:32:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Carl In-Reply-To: <48FFFDC6.9090206@telus.net> Message-ID: <20081023093144.N8253@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> <20081022153034.L2152@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48FFFDC6.9090206@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:32:39 -0000 >>> I thought the -s option was only applicable when using "-b split" for the >>> balancing algorithm. Does "round-robin" not mean simply alternating >>> between the two disks without ever splitting requests? >> >> no. it means for example with -s 65536 and 1MB request - it will split this >> request on 2 disks >> > > So there is no difference between "split" and "round-robin" algorithms then? > looks there is. i never used split balance. always round-robin or load. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 07:44:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB774106567D for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084E78FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9N7i3tk008310; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:44:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9N7i2dU008307; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:44:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:44:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:44:10 -0000 > May i ask a question. Why do you use phpmyadmin from ports? It installs well i don't use phpmyadmin at all ;) > lots of libraries hence possible security threats in the future. So instead > of > taking care of updating a bunch of libraries just for phpmyadmin why don't > you simply download it from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/, put in the apache > doc > root, set it up and so you have to take care to update it when a new version and do it with all other software too, ending with total mess quickly. just like windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 07:53:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D444C1065680 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6849C8FC23 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF7A5172F; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:52:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N7qwUC009823; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:52:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:52:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "John L. Templer" Message-Id: <20081023095257.f05a1d95.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49001B2D.4090706@comcast.net> References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> <49001B2D.4090706@comcast.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:53:05 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:35:25 -0400, "John L. Templer" wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > % dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 > > Very cool! I have a few questions though. I notice this doesn't work > for my Plextor CD writer. What, dd doesn't work from Plextor writer? I had (or, still have) a Plextor CD writer which is SCSI, so I just have to change the command in order to read from the correct device, which is /dev/cd0 for the first SCSI CD drive: % dd if=/dev/cd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 Of course, you would have to change other commands in order to get this correct, for example: % cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0 info > I assume this is because CD and DVD drives > have different drivers? Maybe, but I think these basic things rely on the same commands internally. > Also, does this use libparanoia or something > similar to extract "recalcitrant" tracks? No, dd reads block-wise. There's dd_rescue which is able to read from defectively manufactured media (we call them "Un-CDs" or "Un-DVDs" in Germany). Another option, by the way, is to use cdrdao. It has the read command in combination with a paranoia level switch which can be adjusted in order to read mentioned media. As far as I remember, you need to have the atapicam facility in your kernel (custom compile kernel or module) in order to access ATAPI devices just like SCSI devices. % camcontrol devlist will then show you which device equals /dev/cd0, e. g. 0,0,0 (1st SCSI controller, 1st device, 1st LUN). If I did misunderstand the question, just post another one. :-) (English is not my native language.) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 07:58:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459201065674 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D598FC20 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so222259wfg.7 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:58:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=GsagoStOs4icCclxi00YeQwRFBOXZOXFIbk0fvH/OR4=; b=KGXVGjKDSkWcyG30Vb6629duKEVbiCF49lmwb89ti/v6oZ5dE3zhPXOcAeSSlnlHZA B4yRBus/M86bzhUyfvZ2eZLtp0JIDN18X74ClmxpFG8smJpwDrgfIhpSrid19XIe/J9Z 42OnNBX6WlNRzhsuXGzPJ2yMRUuAjipK6s5zA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Z9j3F5pyOvZQkZZpJtlCNSYLe2aC0GuItIXW+2iL4cKTds42s/+A0kwbgCYW4TPM9I 8l4rF+kD04HBlSpnDN3tJko6geb2CEuyUNQF9ykgy2xx5iMG9nqcYTkHJASx/0oWuwrM 84teV0qPl0KV6ib+6cfco9FeQ+TaxiMdyD6JM= Received: by 10.142.217.17 with SMTP id p17mr160825wfg.23.1224748704137; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:58:24 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:58:25 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > May i ask a question. Why do you use phpmyadmin from ports? It installs >> > > well i don't use phpmyadmin at all ;) > > lots of libraries hence possible security threats in the future. So >> instead >> of >> taking care of updating a bunch of libraries just for phpmyadmin why don't >> you simply download it from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/, put in the apache >> doc >> root, set it up and so you have to take care to update it when a new >> version >> > > and do it with all other software too, ending with total mess quickly. > just like windows Just for the record i'm not doing it with other software and i don't intend to. the main reason i don't like to install phpmyadmin from ports is the following: # pwd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin # make all-depends-list | grep x11 /usr/ports/x11/libXpm /usr/ports/x11/xextproto /usr/ports/x11/xproto /usr/ports/x11/libX11 /usr/ports/x11/libXext /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw /usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto /usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto /usr/ports/x11/xtrans /usr/ports/x11/kbproto /usr/ports/x11/inputproto /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto /usr/ports/x11/libXau /usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp /usr/ports/x11/libSM /usr/ports/x11/printproto /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu /usr/ports/x11/libXp /usr/ports/x11/libICE I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking, is there a way to install phpmyadmin without installing all the above mentions as depends x11 stuff? The above x11 ports install dependecies of their own so you end up with lots of x11 stuff you don't need. So that's why i use and like the other method. thank you for you opinions, v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 07:59:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D7510656A3 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30D68FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA53B130D85 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id AA59224B30 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from privftp.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A525E24B30 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by privftp.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ED8D3981A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49002EF3.6020001@esiee.fr> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: LOCALE ? FR-fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:59:49 -0000 Hello I would like one of our server acting as a WebDAV server to allow French characters in filename , how to do so ? Thanks . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:27:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CFB1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292008FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W8DN1a00B0SCNGk5A8Tt9R; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:27:53 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W8Tg1a0082P6wsM3V8Tgfo; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:27:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4VZKEhmwntcA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=2_tjfAm-JRJ5uiGcMVEA:9 a=AoLyuixdju_zyFY8JtSnaEHGl4wA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32FA7C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:27:40 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Valentin Bud Message-ID: <20081023082740.GA81089@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:27:54 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: > the main reason i don't like to install phpmyadmin from ports is the > following: > # pwd > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin > > # make all-depends-list | grep x11 > /usr/ports/x11/libXpm > /usr/ports/x11/xextproto > /usr/ports/x11/xproto > /usr/ports/x11/libX11 > /usr/ports/x11/libXext > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw > /usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto > /usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto > /usr/ports/x11/xtrans > /usr/ports/x11/kbproto > /usr/ports/x11/inputproto > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto > /usr/ports/x11/libXau > /usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp > /usr/ports/x11/libSM > /usr/ports/x11/printproto > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu > /usr/ports/x11/libXp > /usr/ports/x11/libICE > > I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking, is there a way to install > phpmyadmin > without installing all the above mentions as depends x11 stuff? I explained this in my mail. "make config", remove the features you don't want, then "make all-depends-list". I'm pretty sure the one which is causing you grief is the PDF feature, but it's up to you to decide what you need/do not need. As I said in my other mail, be aware that disabling some of the features will cause phpmyadmin to complain to the visitor that said feature is missing; mbstring is a good example. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:33:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1750B1065683 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD28F8FC24 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAB716C00D2; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:33:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N8XaQ6010207; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:33:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:33:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Bonnet Message-Id: <20081023103336.5528b075.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49002EF3.6020001@esiee.fr> References: <49002EF3.6020001@esiee.fr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LOCALE ? FR-fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:33:40 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > I would like one of our server acting as a WebDAV server to allow > French characters in filename , how to do so ? I'm not sure which charset you will need, maybe ISO-8859-1 or -15 will do the job to allow accents and other things special to the french language? Set the correct LC_* variables via /etc/login.conf (elegant) or via /etc/csh.cshrc (may be considered ugly, but works). For the last case, it would be something like this: setenv LC_ALL fr_FR.ISO8859-15 You can do it more "fine grained", if you wish to leave some of the configurable things to the standard, for example: setenv LC_COLLATE fr_FR.ISO8859-15 setenv LC_CTYPE fr_FR.ISO8859-15 setenv LC_MESSAGES en_US.ISO8859-15 setenv LC_MONETARY fr_FR.ISO8859-15 setenv LC_NUMERIC fr_FR.ISO8859-15 setenv LC_TIME fr_FR.ISO8859-15 I have a similar setting for the german language (de_DE) which allows me to use Umlauts in file names. BUT ATTENTION! I won't recommend anyone to use others but the standard character set for filenames. It can lead to problems if you're transfering files to a system which doesn't support special characters from the french language or is unable to remap them correctly. In my opinion, such characters should not be in a filename, as well as whitespaces, ampersands, apostrophes, doublequotes or similar things. I know it's possible, but it sometimes can make things _really_ difficult. I hope you won't run into such problems. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:36:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B585C106566C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2571B8FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9N8aF2t073518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:36:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9N8aF2t073518 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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b=AzZLibYEuyE Tk0GBmwylIFPjak+2ANJjR16o3kzAK0cIlRcllzKKY82ikCti1Ft9nNi3qkEyl0uQ8J 4ijJ8963ewA8fnwOeTCtk9iGzKlrfbCldXY/UwA0TwtJ8EArbJoxKXrX1/USxXHtvMz lJbqOB6mSsNazimQM8rjVB+KVw= Message-ID: <4900377F.60004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:36:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081002) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Bud References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:36:23 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8471/Wed Oct 22 23:07:26 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:36:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Valentin Bud wrote: | the main reason i don't like to install phpmyadmin from ports is the | following: | # pwd | /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin | | # make all-depends-list | grep x11 | /usr/ports/x11/libXpm | /usr/ports/x11/xextproto | /usr/ports/x11/xproto | /usr/ports/x11/libX11 | /usr/ports/x11/libXext | /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt | /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw | /usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto | /usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto | /usr/ports/x11/xtrans | /usr/ports/x11/kbproto | /usr/ports/x11/inputproto | /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto | /usr/ports/x11/libXau | /usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp | /usr/ports/x11/libSM | /usr/ports/x11/printproto | /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu | /usr/ports/x11/libXp | /usr/ports/x11/libICE | | I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking, is there a way to install | phpmyadmin | without installing all the above mentions as depends x11 stuff? | The above x11 ports install dependecies of their own so you end up with | lots of | x11 stuff you don't need. So that's why i use and like the other method. | thank you for you opinions, The X dependencies come in via php5-gd and pecl-pdflib. php5-gd depends on gd, which depends on libXpm and t1lib which both depend on X libs. pecl-pdflib itself depends on php5-gd. Turning off those two options will keep you X free. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 ~ 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate ~ Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREDAAYFAkkAN38ACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VYaAQCfVAMdhmmRx8i7oWKVoK8Eetqe nVgAniHJYIh9nV/oYPQCb83YjFkDCCWs =sDE/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:36:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96424106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E578FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so41747ywe.13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:36:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ujsjfMSiogk/t4u8xmFCQsE4jqL2hN2F4kYEpkvupPA=; b=FvQc2cktNeFueZTsdYyaW/Wt5nEOVuSRhplkf9fqwZ5CBB4aV3Pn3yjFa1i+ibcZb7 orzC/muRoZYVstOX1YuJdCpH6o1ek341TKQtc3WaLMdT5p2VrGqjTx3B39YUANu5b9jz cHl+3MkqAWbvqW3JRPT+3CJ5AcxMkGjVXJfdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=B3/cjNsrMjge88OO39laE4xNo/i2r0D8SK77Iwfu3vMKFfLgq939tRFjeZ7pCaUZuG Mbd+Xu1PrEsyA/AHogqj+Kq8B6Ionuk1iZ/kZHVros1F/AbFBELPbPI7A9p8d1yg009L 7Ydbe8thVhaqV7/sOVCi20WMJScUHdn5so0JE= Received: by 10.142.14.18 with SMTP id 18mr173074wfn.129.1224751000955; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810230136p2040c7fp48e3f97c4026b662@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:36:40 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" In-Reply-To: <20081023082740.GA81089@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> <20081023082740.GA81089@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:36:42 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Valentin Bud wrote: > > the main reason i don't like to install phpmyadmin from ports is the > > following: > > # pwd > > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin > > > > # make all-depends-list | grep x11 > > /usr/ports/x11/libXpm > > /usr/ports/x11/xextproto > > /usr/ports/x11/xproto > > /usr/ports/x11/libX11 > > /usr/ports/x11/libXext > > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt > > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw > > /usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto > > /usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto > > /usr/ports/x11/xtrans > > /usr/ports/x11/kbproto > > /usr/ports/x11/inputproto > > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto > > /usr/ports/x11/libXau > > /usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp > > /usr/ports/x11/libSM > > /usr/ports/x11/printproto > > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu > > /usr/ports/x11/libXp > > /usr/ports/x11/libICE > > > > I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking, is there a way to install > > phpmyadmin > > without installing all the above mentions as depends x11 stuff? > > I explained this in my mail. "make config", remove the features you > don't want, then "make all-depends-list". > > > I'm pretty sure the one which is causing you grief is the PDF feature, > but it's up to you to decide what you need/do not need. To be recorded for future users the GD library support and the PDFlib support (implies GD) are the ones that require x11 dependecies. > > As I said in my other mail, be aware that disabling some of the > features will cause phpmyadmin to complain to the visitor that said > feature is missing; mbstring is a good example. Thank you very much for you answers and opinions, v > > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:38:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A7F106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11F68FC29 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9N8buo2002655; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:56 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:56 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Gonzalo Nemmi In-Reply-To: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:38:17 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:35:25 -0200 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote: [..] Polytropon: thanks for pdfman script - but does 'pdfman ipfw' work for you? Here the 'overprinting' is misaligned in gv, while others are ok. > > I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable > > without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple > > filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) > > into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. > > Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your explanantion, the > question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting countries, > have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple as an > ISO compliant document?? > > Shouldn't it be the other way around??? > > Does an inmensily huge majority have to walk the extra mile in order to get an > ISO compliant document whereas a small minority benefits from having non ISO > complaint default formats??? Gonzalo: shouldn't that be 'the extra kilometre?' :) Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? I doubt an 'immensely huge majority' of FreeBSD systems are located outside the US (data at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/countries.php notwithstanding, reckoning Australia to have the most FreeBSD users :) > I, for once, would pretty much like to know the logic behind that decision. It's not logic, nor even a decision, but simply a matter of tradition. > > > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the default > > > choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US but > > > useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the > > > likes??? I've yet to run into any printing or display software that didn't offer a wide choice of formats, including A4 and many other A* sizes, so what any particular software chooses as its 'default' scarcely matters. > > You're getting my thoughts, man. :-) I'd like to see this happen, > > too, but I don't think the developers of FreeBSD and all the fine > > applications will say goodbye to their Letter, Legal, Exec etc. > > paper formats. A4 isn't a DIN standard anymore, its ISO for many > > years now, and unlike Letter, it has the ability to be scaled > > (to half size, to quarter size, to double size) easily. Today, > > the manual replacement of many different settings is needed to > > get a system A4 compliant. > > > > Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than > > a century now. =^_^= > > I really hope they do, or at least, start contemplating the fact that ISO > standards are usefull as a whole or are not usefull at all .. That's not true at all; there's no 'all or nothing' about standards. What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that. Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite? Apart from SNMP and its use of (a subset of) the ASN.1 / BER notation, and the X.500-X.521 directory services model to the extent of X.501 certificates, not much of the massive CCITT / OSI / ISO 'standards' have ever entered common usage, most being a camel designed by committee. In '91 I bought three 'fascicles' (volumes) of the CCITT Blue Book for the best part of A$500, then convinced it was the way things would go. I was entirely wrong :) but I don't regret that study for ASN.1 alone. > Gretings from Argentina, where A4 is the standard from 1943. > > And yes .. so are the metric system, kilograms, litres, etc :) I suspect the Yanquis will abandon letter, legal etc paper sizes around the same time they jettison pounds and ounces, feet and inches, gallons and pints .. that is, you probably shouldn't be holding your breath :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:42:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DC510656A4 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AC58FC29 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9N8gTTc008821; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:42:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9N8gShE008818; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:42:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:42:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081023104157.G8817@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <48FF43D8.6010209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> <20081023094324.J8306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Mike Clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:42:35 -0000 > following: > # pwd > /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin assuming it can't be changed by make config, modify port :) > > # make all-depends-list | grep x11 > /usr/ports/x11/libXpm > /usr/ports/x11/xextproto > /usr/ports/x11/xproto > /usr/ports/x11/libX11 > /usr/ports/x11/libXext > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw > /usr/ports/x11/bigreqsproto > /usr/ports/x11/xcmiscproto > /usr/ports/x11/xtrans > /usr/ports/x11/kbproto > /usr/ports/x11/inputproto > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xf86bigfontproto > /usr/ports/x11/libXau > /usr/ports/x11/libXdmcp > /usr/ports/x11/libSM > /usr/ports/x11/printproto > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu > /usr/ports/x11/libXp > /usr/ports/x11/libICE > > I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking, is there a way to install > phpmyadmin > without installing all the above mentions as depends x11 stuff? > The above x11 ports install dependecies of their own so you end up with > lots of > x11 stuff you don't need. So that's why i use and like the other method. > thank you for you opinions, > v > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:43:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDCD1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E76B8FC24 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5482F19B7B83; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N8h5pi010289; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:43:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:43:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Polytropon Message-Id: <20081023104305.a3dc2662.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023103336.5528b075.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <49002EF3.6020001@esiee.fr> <20081023103336.5528b075.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Frank Bonnet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LOCALE ? FR-fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:31 -0000 And I forgot: Set your terminals to cons25l1 in /etc/ttys. You can do that via sysinstall or edit the file manually: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25l1 on secure This, in combination with the LC_* settings, should enable the input and output of the special characters you want. Time for Le PÃĐtit FilÃĻ de lÃĒ mÅĐsic.MP3 :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:45:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7CA1065673 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2A68FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so816593gxk.19 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:45:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Wx1ZLhaCT4fBcb1NzhisH5utb35UcV/Ra29ANqDu+Ss=; b=Y6+9yPC3ovytiw68wh+0Suu3xNB8tI7iqHmNvMmlKVu3krjUdIEbmMXtRgPT6MqqZo ruNCbwqgdv3LVkbBeafNPdYZq8nu9my8n5kBbaCDs3Qtfv2vttn8+8P4MfiLDb1i7rfN 9Xuf6dLeBzKwERmgsKMXtLQk6U8AiAHsj5XZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bxMoEzDBFI1S+mXVyvvyko9bHKcNu5vCTW7W7wBeQYgLLH0zUPZAL+LXYzeCepaM44 DraamFpwF0KlVwOjwzyNSWv3l4pFRHDntBj1TIoBLKLHAAprGR6zWk5c9xHoVRXyRFTR C5Iyfxlu/Zwz5LZXa0FTT2P5iTdaCfh0Dn9pI= Received: by 10.142.204.18 with SMTP id b18mr178065wfg.126.1224751499990; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:44:59 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Ian Smith" In-Reply-To: <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:45:02 -0000 hello, what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI (ess eye) unit system. so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. a good day, v On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:35:25 -0200 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote: > > [..] > > Polytropon: thanks for pdfman script - but does 'pdfman ipfw' work for > you? Here the 'overprinting' is misaligned in gv, while others are ok. > > > > I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable > > > without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple > > > filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) > > > into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. > > > > Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your explanantion, > the > > question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting > countries, > > have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple as > an > > ISO compliant document?? > > > > Shouldn't it be the other way around??? > > > > Does an inmensily huge majority have to walk the extra mile in order to > get an > > ISO compliant document whereas a small minority benefits from having non > ISO > > complaint default formats??? > > Gonzalo: shouldn't that be 'the extra kilometre?' :) > > Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your > theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? > > I doubt an 'immensely huge majority' of FreeBSD systems are located > outside the US (data at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/countries.php > notwithstanding, reckoning Australia to have the most FreeBSD users :) > > > I, for once, would pretty much like to know the logic behind that > decision. > > It's not logic, nor even a decision, but simply a matter of tradition. > > > > > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the > default > > > > choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US > but > > > > useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the > > > > likes??? > > I've yet to run into any printing or display software that didn't offer > a wide choice of formats, including A4 and many other A* sizes, so what > any particular software chooses as its 'default' scarcely matters. > > > > You're getting my thoughts, man. :-) I'd like to see this happen, > > > too, but I don't think the developers of FreeBSD and all the fine > > > applications will say goodbye to their Letter, Legal, Exec etc. > > > paper formats. A4 isn't a DIN standard anymore, its ISO for many > > > years now, and unlike Letter, it has the ability to be scaled > > > (to half size, to quarter size, to double size) easily. Today, > > > the manual replacement of many different settings is needed to > > > get a system A4 compliant. > > > > > > Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than > > > a century now. =^_^= > > > > I really hope they do, or at least, start contemplating the fact that > ISO > > standards are usefull as a whole or are not usefull at all .. > > That's not true at all; there's no 'all or nothing' about standards. > What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that. > > Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications > rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP > plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite? > > Apart from SNMP and its use of (a subset of) the ASN.1 / BER notation, > and the X.500-X.521 directory services model to the extent of X.501 > certificates, not much of the massive CCITT / OSI / ISO 'standards' have > ever entered common usage, most being a camel designed by committee. > > In '91 I bought three 'fascicles' (volumes) of the CCITT Blue Book for > the best part of A$500, then convinced it was the way things would go. > I was entirely wrong :) but I don't regret that study for ASN.1 alone. > > > Gretings from Argentina, where A4 is the standard from 1943. > > > > And yes .. so are the metric system, kilograms, litres, etc :) > > I suspect the Yanquis will abandon letter, legal etc paper sizes around > the same time they jettison pounds and ounces, feet and inches, gallons > and pints .. that is, you probably shouldn't be holding your breath :) > > cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:48:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2742D1065673 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB048FC24 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D66130DED; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 7053F29278; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from privftp.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B4229278; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by privftp.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 537503981A; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49003A68.9080503@esiee.fr> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:40 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <49002EF3.6020001@esiee.fr> <20081023103336.5528b075.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023103336.5528b075.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LOCALE ? FR-fr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:48:43 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:59:47 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: >> Hello >> >> I would like one of our server acting as a WebDAV server to allow >> French characters in filename , how to do so ? > > I'm not sure which charset you will need, maybe ISO-8859-1 or -15 > will do the job to allow accents and other things special to the > french language? > > Set the correct LC_* variables via /etc/login.conf (elegant) or > via /etc/csh.cshrc (may be considered ugly, but works). For the last > case, it would be something like this: > > setenv LC_ALL fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > > You can do it more "fine grained", if you wish to leave some of > the configurable things to the standard, for example: > > setenv LC_COLLATE fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > setenv LC_CTYPE fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > setenv LC_MESSAGES en_US.ISO8859-15 > setenv LC_MONETARY fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > setenv LC_NUMERIC fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > setenv LC_TIME fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > > I have a similar setting for the german language (de_DE) which > allows me to use Umlauts in file names. > > BUT ATTENTION! I won't recommend anyone to use others but the > standard character set for filenames. It can lead to problems if > you're transfering files to a system which doesn't support > special characters from the french language or is unable to remap > them correctly. In my opinion, such characters should not be in > a filename, as well as whitespaces, ampersands, apostrophes, > doublequotes or similar things. I know it's possible, but it > sometimes can make things _really_ difficult. > > I hope you won't run into such problems. > > Thanks a lot for your help ! I only want to allow French characters in filenames not all the environemment so I gonna check with the help you gave :-) thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 08:50:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADFA1065679 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6478FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B4716C0180; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:50:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9N8oCiA010331; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:50:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:50:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Message-Id: <20081023105011.893a479a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:50:15 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:56 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > Polytropon: thanks for pdfman script - but does 'pdfman ipfw' work for > you? Here the 'overprinting' is misaligned in gv, while others are ok. Yes, but it outputs an error message: :2620: warning [p 25, 6.2i]: cannot adjust line The PDF file is 26 pages long. Maybe another PDF viewer will work better (xpdf)? > Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your > theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? Let me follow this Micky Mouse Logic. :-) Because the computer has been invented by a German, all computer stuff should be in the german language. And now all the Americans can feel how the average german computer user feels today: scared by all the things he doesn't understand. :-) > What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that. Nota bene: The worst solution always prevails. People want cheap, they get cheap. Insert bunch of Murphy's laws here. :-) > Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications > rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP > plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite? Having worked with the AX.25 protocol (on amateur radio), sometimes I tend to thing... oh what a crap is TCP/IP... :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 09:10:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A246C1065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC548FC35 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (unknown [192.168.1.110]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E89CAEBA17; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:20:29 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <49003AD8.2010604@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:20:32 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: en0f@bokey.mine.nu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:10:07 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > I doubt an 'immensely huge majority' of FreeBSD systems are located > outside the US (data at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/countries.php > notwithstanding, reckoning Australia to have the most FreeBSD users :) whoa! All your bases are belong to down under! :D -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 09:24:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9865106567C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from callumgibson@optusnet.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479038FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from callumgibson@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9N55CsM004972 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:05:12 +1100 Received: from omma.gibson.athome (c122-106-69-195.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.69.195]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m9N559Cj009028 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:05:10 +1100 Received: (qmail 56049 invoked by uid 107); 23 Oct 2008 16:05:09 +1100 Date: 23 Oct 2008 16:05:09 +1100 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:05:09 +1100 From: Callum Gibson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081023050509.GA55909@omma.gibson.athome> References: <48FFDE14.1080103@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FFDE14.1080103@el.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: scp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:24:14 -0000 On 22Oct08 22:14, kalin m wrote: }> I usually cheat and grab a copy of ssh-copy-id from the web; I suspect }> your issue has to do with permissions for the .ssh directory and the }> authorized_keys file. }permissions are 600 for the file and 700 for .ssh Permission of the remote user's home directory is another one to check. It can only be writable by the user. -- Callum Gibson @ home http://members.optusnet.com.au/callumgibson/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 10:40:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37F1065679 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B798FC18 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1KsxcT-00014Y-T9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:46 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KsxcT-0000Pb-Ab for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:45 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <200810221805.08009.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430810222359r41a24fb0o893cfd5a7d1e1ca2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810231140.45159.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: dc285bf624b492920a7c14d2aed810d8 Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:40:48 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008, Valentin Bud wrote: > May i ask a question. Why do you use phpmyadmin from ports? Mainly to keep life simple [1]. > It > installs lots of libraries hence possible security threats in the > future. Well this particular box is already loaded up with what many would regard as too much KDE bloatware so most of the libraries would already be there anyway. > So instead of > taking care of updating a bunch of libraries just for phpmyadmin why > don't you simply download it from http://www.phpmyadmin.net/, put in > the apache doc > root, set it up and so you have to take care to update it when a new > version comes > out. Well, providing it works, I'm not too particular about always having the latest and greatest version but I do want to upgrade if there are any security fixes and portaudit running from cron does a far better job of spotting these than if I had to remember to check manually. It was the a vulnerability reported by portaudit that prompted me to upgrade phpMyAdmin when I re-instated the web server on this box. [1] There are times when this KISS approach falls down. An earlier portupgrade while I was still running php4 resulted in phpMyAdmin acquiring a dependency on php5, which it promptly installed alongside php4 creating quite a bit of chaos in the process. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 11:27:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF65106567C; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vmail@lists.ukgrid.net) Received: from alpha.ukgrid.net (lists.manap.net [85.159.60.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690D28FC1A; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vmail@lists.ukgrid.net) Received: from vmail by alpha.ukgrid.net with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KsyLx-000JV7-En; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:27:45 +0100 From: "andys" To: "andys" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:27:45 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: VMail virtual user Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdlabel partiton c error message on new install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:27:47 -0000 Hi, the below was resolved by rebooting the server. After a reboot the device file /dev/da0s1g has been created, however this doesnt seem completely normal as sysinstall obviously expected to see the new device file immediately. Perhaps there is a prob with my system or is there just a problem with the expectations of sysinstall?? :S cheers Andy. andys writes: > Hi, > > ok, so I have attempted to proceed with my original task which was to > create a new UFS2 parition (using sysinstall). Having chosen "c" and then > "w" from the lable section, i recieve the following error: > > Error mounting /dev/da0s1g on /export : No such file or directory > > After exiting sysinstall, I can see from bsdlabel: > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 20971520 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > b: 20971520 75497472 swap > c: 285153687 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > edit > d: 20971520 20971520 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > e: 20971520 41943040 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > f: 12582912 62914560 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > g: 146800640 96468992 4.2BSD 0 0 0 > bsdlabel: partition c doesn't cover the whole unit! > > "g" is my new partition. Under /dev however I dont see the device file: > > ls /dev/da0* > /dev/da0 /dev/da0s1a /dev/da0s1c /dev/da0s1e > /dev/da0s1 /dev/da0s1b /dev/da0s1d /dev/da0s1f > > Can anyone help :( > > thanks a lot, > Andy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 11:45:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA3B106567F for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560A08FC2B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 10303 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2008 11:45:05 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Oct 2008 11:45:05 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7597A50820; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 083D11CEB7; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:44:58 -0400 (EDT) To: APseudoUtopia References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:44:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> (apseudoutopia@gmail.com's message of "Wed\, 22 Oct 2008 22\:55\:19 -0400") Message-ID: <444p33pmbp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:45:06 -0000 APseudoUtopia writes: > I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my > box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root > logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH > access. > > Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and > everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel > group, and root login is disabled in SSH. > > Thanks for any help/advice. You'll need to reboot in single-user mode. E.g., http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#SU-WHEEL-GROUP -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 12:44:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4EB1065676 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329718FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9NChm7G010120; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9NChlYn010117; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <444p33pmbp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Message-ID: <20081023144157.S10109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> <444p33pmbp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:44:01 -0000 >> group, and root login is disabled in SSH. >> >> Thanks for any help/advice. > > You'll need to reboot in single-user mode. > E.g., > http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#SU-WHEEL-GROUP > > -- and next time - do enable root login through ssh/rlogin/telnetd there is no security gain by disabling it, as you have to know password too. if course it's not bright to login as root over telnet through public network, but too - it's not security hole in system, just in administrator's brain if he/she do it this way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 12:50:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCFA1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from raptor.centroin.com (asmtp.centroin.com [64.251.27.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45438FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from trex.centroin.com.br (trex.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by raptor.centroin.com (8.14.3/8.13.8/CIP SMTP HOST) with ESMTP id m9NCpq3W043428 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:51:56 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:50:29 -0200 (BRST) From: scuba@centroin.com.br Sender: mpsouza@trex.centroin.com.br To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081023105002.Y61516@trex.centroin.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:13 -0000 Hi, Another option would be if that umprivileged user is in sudoers with permission to run the root shell (sudo -s). It doesn't need to be in wheel to do that. On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, mdh wrote: |He said his unprivileged user isn't in the wheel group. | |To answer the initial question, you'll need to login to the system on the local console. You cannot get root access via the network unless you're running another remote access service besides ssh which will allow you to login as root directly. | |- mdh | |--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Benjamin Lee wrote: |> From: Benjamin Lee |> Subject: Re: Locked out of Root |> To: "APseudoUtopia" |> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org |> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:25 PM |> |> Login as the unprivileged user and run: |> |> $ su |> |> See su(1). | | | | |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 12:53:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EEB1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) Received: from mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6E8FC26 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMEAMAJAEnAqBRz/2dsb2JhbAAIh3CEOQGGOq4Tg04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,470,1220191200"; d="scan'208";a="150990027" Received: from 115.20-168-192.network.zzz.iprimus.net.au (HELO cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au) ([192.168.20.115]) by s95.int.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2008 23:23:09 +1100 Received: from [192.168.20.141] by cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:23:07 +1100 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:23:07 +1000 Message-ID: <48E3D8C900016263@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> From: alasdair@iprimus.com.au To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problem with" freebsd-update-upgrade.tgz.asc" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:53:04 -0000 Hi, I have downloaded the above script from http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-11-11-freebsd-major-version-upgrade.html Installed gpg all set up ok AFAICT. put the freebsd security officer's public key on my gpg keyring . Used the following command to verify the file: localhost# gpg --verify freebsd-update-upgrade.tgz.asc freebsd-update-upgrade.tgz gpg: can't open signed data `freebsd-update-upgrade.tgz' gpg: can't hash datafile: No such file or directory localhost# AFAICT the public key is ok pub 1024D/CA6CDFB2 2002-08-27 uid FreeBSD Security Officer sub 2048g/A3071809 2002-08-27 Apart from the fact that the file could be dodgy (?) What could be the problem? Have I used the wrong key? I imagine the error msg would be different if that was the case. Thanks, Alasdair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:01:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E53C106566C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpsouza@centroin.com.br) Received: from raptor.centroin.com (asmtp.centroin.com [64.251.27.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305048FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mpsouza@centroin.com.br) Received: from trex.centroin.com.br (trex.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by raptor.centroin.com (8.14.3/8.13.8/CIP SMTP HOST) with ESMTP id m9NCp7xS043159; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:51:09 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from mpsouza@centroin.com.br) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:49:44 -0200 (BRST) From: Marcelo Souza To: mdh In-Reply-To: <413635.33527.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081023104636.E61516@trex.centroin.com.br> References: <413635.33527.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Benjamin Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:01:09 -0000 Hi, Another option would be if that umprivileged user is in sudoers with permission to run the root shell (sudo -s). It doesn't need to be in wheel to do that. On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, mdh wrote: |He said his unprivileged user isn't in the wheel group. | |To answer the initial question, you'll need to login to the system on the local console. You cannot get root access via the network unless you're running another remote access service besides ssh which will allow you to login as root directly. | |- mdh | |--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Benjamin Lee wrote: |> From: Benjamin Lee |> Subject: Re: Locked out of Root |> To: "APseudoUtopia" |> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org |> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:25 PM |> |> Login as the unprivileged user and run: |> |> $ su |> |> See su(1). | | | | |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 12:50:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3894C1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1D568FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 35695 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2008 12:50:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=TEHpXcLVNdZAwSst0gNE1+tmsZ/wCoJResGup0qWWSU4RQ4r02zIZ3mKLRKOCMn/orFVCL6cb8I7io/BKAwKmNLLy4J/R+/eLGUQEWlhjZv/Os7iMMAkGI1tKI79+WShyyFD/tZfy0XdvOh6zG9VKDT0KGoo8rHGMSF2IOylyeM=; X-YMail-OSG: .i75KEkVM1kpAJgXDbCmk6830BLu9wFJ1szMmO69ZysBC8Ede0Ax.sUA2tTV7I2T1PTXUVtKqB707gc.yZrVL8tBlr0_VlC2zIAiyvE.jVGc4bos50d3IOiWINuKh80xzp1bM0RZui7ZjJXh2pr4BSo_HRtw8n4Iim0MHAGi Received: from [86.101.155.31] by web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:50:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:50:39 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <337592.34920.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:13:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: samba - vista problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:40 -0000 Hello!=0A=0AI have some problems with my samba/vista "os"=0AI can't log on = from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there is a password/user p= roblem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the user/pass, to change it but i= t don't works.=0A=0Ado you ever meet this problem?=0A=0ALaci=0A=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:26:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC051065670 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30758FC29 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051219D0D; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:26:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from [10.0.10.11] (tau.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49007B90.7010503@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:26:40 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> <20081022213556.4b5c9fa8@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081022213556.4b5c9fa8@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GCC help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:26:56 -0000 RW wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:09 -0400 > Victor Farah wrote: > > >> I was wondering how I would update gcc to version 4.2? >> I'm not sure I can just do a portupgrade gcc ?? >> > > > If you install a later version of gcc it won't automatically get used > because the port will use the base-system version. > Can't you set $CC to gcc44 or whatever to make the ports system use a different version of gcc? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:32:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB35106566C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1C28FC1C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1293789gxk.19 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:32:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=z3R9iYbAPFYHmCX4b/cLWxkeXImVJHA6T6iRb9FwX74=; b=K9qUVEX2RsIv0zi2Lks7DVh5YaoDL9k+af3lh85x/nTlHrSZHRDfCGNkNy55nwtoGz Ie87YpJ3AU0oAQvkfnOcigBPs5JRB4F0TV8MmhmM8624jd3GR/J51JqYvcVp0Pai6P9g yrc479bqvrSTvIjwPxYhGhF2GPo3y9UQAJ98s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=HlKz/VBz0ptVqBZAjbn1EtMb6q2uAswdPVRIspsKOqJzFM71Wci9ORfdidKLhDIWGv uD5I23EALaMVjtQ/27Th6p7Mgp4eKPAvf2kpgn8kXPvSb7ArpYq/rN+ay2S7JHH2u853 WJNg0jsiYhTlf7vOATpkOIYd+uXI9R81ybAG0= Received: by 10.142.213.8 with SMTP id l8mr323901wfg.73.1224768720028; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810230631j11aeaeb6ub0aaf63b754ad941@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:31:59 +0200 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?=" In-Reply-To: <347588.85271.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <347588.85271.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: samba - vista problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:32:05 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 < laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com> wrote: > Yes, I got the following error message, but not every time, sometime its > just simply empty: > > # tail -f /var/log/samba/log.laci-laptop > [2008/10/23 14:51:36, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534) > read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to client 192.168.1.4. Error =3D > Connection reset by peer > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Valentin Bud > To: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:21:11 PM > Subject: Re: samba - vista problems > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:50 PM, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 < > laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I have some problems with my samba/vista "os" >> I can't log on from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there is= a >> password/user problem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the user/pass, = to >> change it but it don't works. >> >> do you ever meet this problem? >> > > did you check the logs? /var/log/samba/* > >> >> Laci >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Ok, have you added the user to the samba user database: # smbpasswd -a The must be a system user. You can use either smbpasswd(8) or pdbedit(8). all the best, v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:39:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F161065670 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887E18FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9NDdGHS010528; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9NDdG9K010525; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= In-Reply-To: <337592.34920.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081023153807.J10523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <337592.34920.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba - vista problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:24 -0000 > Hello! I have some problems with my samba/vista "os" I can't log on from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there is a password/user problem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the user/pass, to change it but it don't works. do you ever meet this problem? -------- no - i don't use windows, for users i strongly recommend not using vista. anyway - it's not FreeBSD related problem, samba is not FreeBSD specific. try windows support and samba related mailing lists! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:51:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD1C1065675 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69F548FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 72274 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2008 13:51:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=1cjaXKkC3zP4dqokApcdkC/CgzpCV9JIzNZjv61vE+AsDgRXGH4oD08d6MLbNABj40fba9Cfw+DhLkGUEgaXJygAoeMOBAKSTyC4c3R6IypjAvWOi4mZMEKL43Y/qL13nMeZxm0wqifEhhZ66uErjX395WlQpUysqlxyR33gKtA=; X-YMail-OSG: 2M3R524VM1nIWtX4dJe9wz3CcTm0mKTlrP3a_FPNanuSCE_ZwYf34Gid10e9ChzgCRFG7pJyCUp1OaGmtjkqODVg2Fq4PUT8n281wZyHaw8TpXCv7QMZvt7WmW8hKsN5UfnfQAzzcRrmue6qUB1hFkCoxmS9evUzOxwKB0NnKYfhlR12wdQZ60wqybIhNA-- Received: from [86.101.155.31] by web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:51:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Valentin Bud MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <818783.71986.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:05:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: samba - vista problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:51:59 -0000 It works!=0AThank you very much!=0A=0A=0A[2008/10/23 15:51:28, 1] smbd/serv= ice.c:make_connection_snum(1033)=0A laci-laptop (192.168.1.4) connect to s= ervice laci_smb initially as user laci_smb (uid=3D1002, gid=3D1002) (pid 13= 213)=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Valentin Bud =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0A= Cc: freebsd-questions =0ASent: Thursday, Oct= ober 23, 2008 3:31:59 PM=0ASubject: Re: samba - vista problems=0A=0AOn Thu,= Oct 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 <=0Alaszlo_danielisz@yahoo= .com> wrote:=0A=0A> Yes, I got the following error message, but not every t= ime, sometime its=0A> just simply empty:=0A>=0A> # tail -f /var/log/samba/l= og.laci-laptop=0A> [2008/10/23 14:51:36, 0] lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)= =0A> read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to client 192.168.1.4. Error =3D= =0A> Connection reset by peer=0A>=0A> ----- Original Message ----=0A> From:= Valentin Bud =0A> To: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0A> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:21:11 PM=0A>= Subject: Re: samba - vista problems=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 a= t 2:50 PM, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 <=0A> laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com> wrote:= =0A>=0A>> Hello!=0A>>=0A>> I have some problems with my samba/vista "os"=0A= >> I can't log on from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there is= a=0A>> password/user problem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the user/p= ass, to=0A>> change it but it don't works.=0A>>=0A>> do you ever meet this = problem?=0A>>=0A>=0A> did you check the logs? /var/log/samba/*=0A>=0A>>=0A>= > Laci=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> ___________________________________________= ____=0A>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>> http://lists.free= bsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>> To unsubscribe, send any ma= il to "=0A>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>>=0A>=0AOk, have= you added the user to the samba user database:=0A# smbpasswd -a =0AT= he must be a system user. You can use either smbpasswd(8) or=0Apdbed= it(8).=0A=0Aall the best,=0Av=0A___________________________________________= ____=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.or= g/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "fr= eebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 14:09:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA96106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65DFA8FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 9738 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2008 14:09:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=qMO0CPLIqZfq8xYs3R68cu+INlpUhjgG9MndRsl49ddOv9mxx3tEcbWe7NaFRv7pz6XqjIYAj+8cNcxmSic6TihkSPD7u8kfGdr9Bvi2uCkGRfoAzIH8LWXFwjAnk04cALM3skJNngWUmrolTUh7Wca9NexiuWFFk3bndV/NGz0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@67.189.233.182 with login) by smtp102.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2008 14:09:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: _JOwLuYVM1lsZ7ddug6zzlKCVTe5kfJapFilrzZ9.5dlMULpqYxxM2AhI20CICHTSPc_bmp37_Vz1PMqUdC5fPLoZBg7X.hwhoL5lHU6GFAvQxwCEg4oLyFLgFZ6SSkozMJJSHtrRnjiq1k_dZW1ZfwuhB3FpBpfdyYqxksqgXAbco1JFevHnwlniw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:09:34 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081023100934.33456d1d@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <49007B90.7010503@cran.org.uk> References: <48FF338D.3050809@netmediaservices.net> <20081022213556.4b5c9fa8@gumby.homeunix.com> <49007B90.7010503@cran.org.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/a=2kneZ_GtwZB4Ze+HsaVUD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: GCC help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:09:47 -0000 --Sig_/a=2kneZ_GtwZB4Ze+HsaVUD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:26:40 +0100 Bruce Cran wrote: [snip] >Can't you set $CC to gcc44 or whatever to make the ports system use a=20 >different version of gcc? UNTESTED: in /etc/make.conf file: CC=3D/usr/local/bin/gcc44 --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com It doesn't matter whether you win or lose -- until you lose. --Sig_/a=2kneZ_GtwZB4Ze+HsaVUD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkAhagACgkQBvaKIJWWCO2pjACdEtXoWv7+/TSOlYpGhtP54pTo QQUAmwS0xN/FU/kuizbs1APhQMHVGsgn =tamS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/a=2kneZ_GtwZB4Ze+HsaVUD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 14:21:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941661065674 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F6B48FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 55534 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2008 14:21:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=CsoGkjf5VAXYNiSY5SL02WTXy7j95cWZEJBUCg5G75kYps0PxcWfKbxmyWn54Lb3jlVsuB0GbynUiR+NaqZunLuW9igxJA+jj2BPJqhKrnxClLUH7vWo1ZonOLNNlrrEZgfV5n2xZZT0ZkcHcfWJh5oTQ2p9qaou0NVeoT62yMw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@67.189.233.182 with login) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2008 14:21:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:21:01 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081023102101.3bc77c17@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081023153807.J10523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <337592.34920.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20081023153807.J10523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/xfDqVuxzAhN2K7bkm2ll1Pl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: samba - vista problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:21:06 -0000 --Sig_/xfDqVuxzAhN2K7bkm2ll1Pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Hello! > >I have some problems with my samba/vista "os" >I can't log on from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there >is a password/user problem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the >user/pass, to change it but it don't works. > >do you ever meet this problem? >-------- > >no - i don't use windows, for users i strongly recommend not using >vista. That was not the question the OP asked. >anyway - it's not FreeBSD related problem, samba is not FreeBSD >specific. If the OP is using SAMBA in a FreeBSD environment, then it is most certainly a FBSD related problem. >try windows support and samba related mailing lists! In which case, if their users are as closed minded as you appear to be, they will refer the OP to the FreeBSD and/or Samba mailing list, depending on which list he contacts. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com "Life's tough ... it is even tougher if you are stupid." John Wayne --Sig_/xfDqVuxzAhN2K7bkm2ll1Pl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkAiE0ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO3BdgCeJSqoR8RSEyT+3LUDc7JW6bD8 1QwAoJ8NIyeVDQ5lwUk8xfp6Ti+kKlcz =JPk4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/xfDqVuxzAhN2K7bkm2ll1Pl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 14:43:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7980B106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388B08FC31 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9NEhJJY008810; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9NEhJvq008807; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Gonzalo Nemmi In-Reply-To: <200810230258.42153.gnemmi@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200810222335.26022.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230107.11493.gnemmi@gmail.com> <200810230258.42153.gnemmi@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:20 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> A good start would just be determining which programs need to be >> modified. A check for similar work in other operating systems would be >> very useful. Finally, a proposal for the way to implement the change, >> and maybe even patches. > > Well .. we seem to have a start about which programs need to be modified ... A list of base FreeBSD programs that need page size support would give a good idea of what approaches can be used. > It gets a little tougher regarding other operting system given that FreeBSD is > the only one running on my only PC :'( But there are printing applications that run on both FreeBSD and other OSs. CUPS or one of the big desktop environments or one of the variations of Linux may have already addressed global page size setting. You don't have to run them to research them. Taking advantage of existing work can get things going a lot faster and avoid unexpected pitfalls. (A shorter way of saying that: It's better to learn from somebody else's mistakes.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 14:51:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8752106567E for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6876D8FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 94624 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2008 14:51:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mW0okGSfpKwwFiOsEaECABHBRGA/Va2tAPLRjNbgjHE2i4tD+3yT+FRJt42TBLQfOUJmQPy4tjKclt9OWV1gQZ7b0rfRsfzXRyZxge2h/LZ6fTaWhyJ8GdeJLE/tzt49BGJKqnYvEkhoBoEYTPAt/RaquaQtztgAvULsdNHxMd0=; X-YMail-OSG: 7Acvd18VM1lwDmf51M6ZZpGe88eYq15fbcJ8bH5QJyK.27SNGQv_FCiiwNkYtcc12pYFRFVybv4f_c8PSFelEwOx0zRuHpjK_r0vUwtha5LzEhWNFbkEMyxQzcpyQL.EjXu4w7rkAETOmbjS27ZSnQWm7SlFz6W_amMiRFSQvJ1IzePF_cArSIFCkKWZdg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:51:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:51:53 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: APseudoUtopia , Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <444p33pmbp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <698916.94575.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:51:54 -0000 --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > From: Lowell Gilbert > Subject: Re: Locked out of Root > To: "APseudoUtopia" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 7:44 AM > APseudoUtopia writes: > > > I have one user (other than root and the other system > users) on my > > box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also > have root > > logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and > all I have is SSH > > access. > > > > Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root > password and > > everything, but I just can't get to it. The user > is not in the wheel > > group, and root login is disabled in SSH. > > > > Thanks for any help/advice. > > You'll need to reboot in single-user mode. > E.g., > http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#SU-WHEEL-GROUP If he can get to the system console, why would he need to bother booting to single user mode? He said he has the root password. He should just be able to login normally, if he can get to the system console. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:00:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830D81065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5288FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 15521 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2008 09:33:56 -0500 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 23 Oct 2008 09:33:56 -0500 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: References: <337592.34920.qm@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20081023153807.J10523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081023102101.3bc77c17@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081023102101.3bc77c17@scorpio> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:35:56 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01c9351c$aa13f1c0$fe3bd540$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Ack1GsUpHuo9MypZSue0wyLFyT+s3AAAal3w Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: samba - vista problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:00:42 -0000 In windows world, username is machinename\username. So, if the Vista box is named mypc and your username is fred, The username you enter should be mypc\fred. =20 Not sure if you have a freebsd password problem. =20 Anyway, just more info to help you solve your problem. =20 Darryl =20 From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba - vista problems =20 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Hello! > >I have some problems with my samba/vista "os" >I can't log on from my pc to the samba, it says every time that there >is a password/user problem, I tried to retype almost 50 times the >user/pass, to change it but it don't works. > >do you ever meet this problem? >-------- > >no - i don't use windows, for users i strongly recommend not using >vista. That was not the question the OP asked. >anyway - it's not FreeBSD related problem, samba is not FreeBSD >specific. If the OP is using SAMBA in a FreeBSD environment, then it is most certainly a FBSD related problem. >try windows support and samba related mailing lists! In which case, if their users are as closed minded as you appear to be, they will refer the OP to the FreeBSD and/or Samba mailing list, depending on which list he contacts. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com "Life's tough ... it is even tougher if you are stupid." John Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:02:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE2510656A0 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101C18FC20 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9NExLvm081770; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9NExK0h081769; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:59:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Benjamin Lee Message-ID: <20081023145919.GB81643@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> <48FFEEAA.4060600@b1c1l1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48FFEEAA.4060600@b1c1l1.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:02:42 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:25:30PM -0700, Benjamin Lee wrote: > On 10/22/08 19:55, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my > > box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root > > logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH > > access. > > > > Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and > > everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel > > group, and root login is disabled in SSH. > > > > Thanks for any help/advice. > > Login as the unprivileged user and run: > > $ su > > See su(1). > On FreeBSD, unless it is reconfigured differently, the non-root user must be in the wheel group to su to root. Changing that configuration requires root as does putting the user in the wheel group. ////jerry > > -- > Benjamin Lee > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:04:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBFB106566C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DB38FC26 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9NF1ndY081807; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:01:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9NF1nIw081806; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:01:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:01:44 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081023150144.GC81643@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> <444p33pmbp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20081023144157.S10109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081023144157.S10109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:04:39 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 02:43:47PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>group, and root login is disabled in SSH. > >> > >>Thanks for any help/advice. > > > >You'll need to reboot in single-user mode. > >E.g., > >http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#SU-WHEEL-GROUP > > > >-- > > and next time - do enable root login through ssh/rlogin/telnetd > > there is no security gain by disabling it, as you have to know password > too. It guarantees that the root password is passed encrypted. So, next time do NOT enable root loging via ssh. Instead, put the non-root user in the wheel group. ////jerry > > if course it's not bright to login as root over telnet through public > network, but too - it's not security hole in system, just in > administrator's brain if he/she do it this way. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:06:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364801065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC5A8FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9NF2kkZ081825; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:02:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9NF2jdJ081824; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:02:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:02:45 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: scuba@centroin.com.br Message-ID: <20081023150245.GD81643@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081023105002.Y61516@trex.centroin.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081023105002.Y61516@trex.centroin.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:06:17 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:50:29AM -0200, scuba@centroin.com.br wrote: > Hi, > > Another option would be if that umprivileged user is in sudoers > with permission to run the root shell (sudo -s). It doesn't need to be > in wheel to do that. Of course, it would take root to be put in. ////jerry > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, mdh wrote: > > |He said his unprivileged user isn't in the wheel group. > | > |To answer the initial question, you'll need to login to the system on the > local console. You cannot get root access via the network unless you're > running another remote access service besides ssh which will allow you to > login as root directly. > | > |- mdh > | > |--- On Wed, 10/22/08, Benjamin Lee wrote: > |> From: Benjamin Lee > |> Subject: Re: Locked out of Root > |> To: "APseudoUtopia" > |> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > |> Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:25 PM > |> > |> Login as the unprivileged user and run: > |> > |> $ su > |> > |> See su(1). > | > | > | > | > |_______________________________________________ > |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > |To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | > > > - Marcelo > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:09:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC76106569C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAE78FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9NF6xkG081853; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:07:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9NF6xmG081852; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:06:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:06:59 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: APseudoUtopia Message-ID: <20081023150659.GE81643@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:09:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:55:19PM -0400, APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hey, > > I have one user (other than root and the other system users) on my > box, and that user is _NOT_ in the wheel group. I also have root > logins disabled via SSH. This is a remote server and all I have is SSH > access. > > Is there any way that I can gain root? I know the root password and > everything, but I just can't get to it. The user is not in the wheel > group, and root login is disabled in SSH. You will need to gain console access or get someone there to gain console access. Then login as root and add that non-root account to the wheel group (or have the _trusted_ local person do it). Have the local person log out and you can then immediately log in as the non-root, su to root, check if anyone else is connected and then change the root password. ////jerry > > Thanks for any help/advice. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:12:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7E6106567B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0236.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C058F8FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 572411AE2C02 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:12:52 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 21a407b1c488cfc3, 9510f55e4507d164, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RULES_HIT:355:379:541:564:945:947:966:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2196:2199:2393:2559:2562:2737:2893:2899:2901:3280:3353:3636:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:3876:3877:4250:4385:4470:5007:6114:7558:7652:8501, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions From: Chris Pratt Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:12:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Subject: Boot device question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:12:54 -0000 I have a server with 6 hot-swap SATA slots. It was delivered with the first slot empty and 5 drives set up as /dev/ad4 through /dev/ad12. I'd never paid attention to this until I wanted to add a 6th, now 4 years later. When I popped it in, I realized the empty bay was not 6 but rather bay 1, and of course it wouldn't boot. Presumably /dev/ad2 had now come alive for the first time. I popped out the disk, rebooted and after it was up, I plugged it back in (hot) and ran sysinstall. It didn't see the disk so I couldn't fdisk it. No device files existed for it. I was thinking a right approach would be to change fstab to reference ad2 for all the system disk file systems, shutdown, move that drive to the first bay and plug the new drive into the 2nd bay. This seemed like more of a permanent solution. If those /dev/ad* files are created at boot dynamically, this should work. I've found docs that imply that they are dynamically discovered and created from FreeBSD 5 forward (auto-discovery?). Are they or do I need to create them prior to start up. The thing is, there is no easy recovery from failure here since I have no console monitor to let me see what's going on or to fix fstab if it fails (counter-intuitively, the only place I can access the console is from remote locations ;-)), so I just want to know if I'm thinking straight? The plan is: 1. Change /etc/fstab entries for ad4 filesystems to ad2 2. Shutdown 3. Put the system disk in Bay 1 4. Power up Should it boot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:41:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CAB106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50AC8FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9NFexPG016337; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:41:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:40:59 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081023105011.893a479a.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20081024002139.G4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081023105011.893a479a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:41:20 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:56 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > Polytropon: thanks for pdfman script - but does 'pdfman ipfw' work for > > you? Here the 'overprinting' is misaligned in gv, while others are ok. > > Yes, but it outputs an error message: > > :2620: warning [p 25, 6.2i]: cannot adjust line > > The PDF file is 26 pages long. Maybe another PDF viewer will work > better (xpdf)? Modified to rm any /tmp/man.pdf first, then tried both xpdf and kpdf .. still the same problem. Here's a small (if messy) text clip from xpdf; all the underlining and overprinting stuff gets scrambled, plus some missing newlines later in the file .. N A ME N AM E ip fw -- IP firewall and traffic shaper control program pf w S YN OP SI S SY NO PS I S ip fw [- c q] a dd _ u_ e pf w - cq ad d r_ l_ However this time I noticed an error listed also, different to yours, maybe because mine is only 20 pages (this on 5.5-STABLE if it matters) sola% pdfman ipfw (source:.gz: No such file or directory /usr/share/man/man8/ipfw.8.gz).gz: No such file or directory Which is strange, and goes away if I redirect the first command's stderr to /dev/null, but it doesn't change the output. The groff output looks ok, not that I read postscript beyond seeing head and tail look intact. zcat `man -w $@` 2>/dev/null | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc \ | ps2pdf - /tmp/man.pdf && gv /tmp/man.pdf Seems that short (or maybe just 'some') mans work very well, but longer ones, (or just 'some others'?) have problems here, eg: sola% pdfman ip # looks great, 5pp sola% pdfman ipfw # overprinting misaligned as above, 20pp sola% pdfman csh # pretty rough and misaligned also, 48pp :1798: normal or special character expected (got a tab character) :1798: normal or special character expected (got a space) :1798: normal or special character expected (got a space) :1798: normal or special character expected (got a space) :1800: a backspace character is not allowed in an escape name :1801: a backspace character is not allowed in an escape name :1804: warning: numeric expression expected (got `v') sola% Possibly just my out of date ports (don't ask), quite likely ps2pdf? > > Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your > > theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? > > Let me follow this Micky Mouse Logic. :-) Because the computer has > been invented by a German, all computer stuff should be in the > german language. And now all the Americans can feel how the average > german computer user feels today: scared by all the things he doesn't > understand. :-) Charlie Babbage was German? Learn something every day on this list :) > > What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that. > > Nota bene: > > The worst solution always prevails. But much sooner than the best, which takes forever. > People want cheap, they get cheap. We wanted free, we got free .. and don't have to shell out maybe $10k+ for a shelf full of CCITT / ISO docs! > > Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications > > rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP > > plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite? > > Having worked with the AX.25 protocol (on amateur radio), sometimes > I tend to thing... oh what a crap is TCP/IP... :-) Well I suppose the ITU have a TCP/IP-free X.20something net running somewhere, but it doesn't look like pushing TCP/IP off its perch .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:42:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900E2106566C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717738FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kt2KR-0003fz-Kx; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:42:33 -0400 Message-ID: <49009B62.30507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:42:26 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Pratt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Boot device question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:42:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris Pratt wrote: > I have a server with 6 hot-swap SATA slots. It was delivered > with the first slot empty and 5 drives set up as /dev/ad4 through > /dev/ad12. I'd never paid attention to this until I wanted to add > a 6th, now 4 years later. When I popped it in, I realized the > empty bay was not 6 but rather bay 1, and of course it wouldn't > boot. Presumably /dev/ad2 had now come alive for the first time. > I popped out the disk, rebooted and after it was up, I plugged it > back in (hot) and ran sysinstall. It didn't see the disk so I couldn't > fdisk it. No device files existed for it. > > I was thinking a right approach would be to change fstab to > reference ad2 for all the system disk file systems, shutdown, > move that drive to the first bay and plug the new drive into the > 2nd bay. This seemed like more of a permanent solution. > If those /dev/ad* files are created at boot dynamically, > this should work. I've found docs that imply that they are > dynamically discovered and created from FreeBSD 5 forward > (auto-discovery?). Are they or do I need to create them prior to > start up. > > The thing is, there is no easy recovery from failure here since I > have no console monitor to let me see what's going on or to fix > fstab if it fails (counter-intuitively, the only place I can access > the console is from remote locations ;-)), so I just want to know > if I'm thinking straight? The plan is: > > 1. Change /etc/fstab entries for ad4 filesystems to ad2 > 2. Shutdown > 3. Put the system disk in Bay 1 > 4. Power up > > Should it boot? Hi Chris, I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that you can wire physical devices to specific devices files in /dev. I use the /boot/device.hints file to do that. Check this page for more information: http://threads.seas.gwu.edu/cgi-bin/man2web?program=scbus§ion=4 Halfway down the page, you'll see directives like: hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="0" hint.da.0.unit="0" I believe you can do something similar with your ad devices, and force the new drive to a different /dev/ad? device file that doesn't cause a boot problem. Hope that helps, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkAm2EACgkQ0sRouByUApARlQCcDmUTbVBqui+nNSpcCdDTavIk FywAnj+wR4wtB8vLsYL0BiEfdiRLPnq6 =Y3ZT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:45:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53173106567C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4248FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WEjk1a0030SCNGk55FjBic; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:43:13 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WFj91a0022P6wsM3VFj9A8; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:43:10 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=l0Wcn7-Cc1hQfxXCefIA:9 a=_8pJolvs6jOym8icA8wA:7 a=a7W2aJJMPTTn_8MGMmCtqZ2UPzQA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD774C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:43:08 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Chris Pratt Message-ID: <20081023154308.GA89723@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Boot device question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:45:03 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 08:12:38AM -0700, Chris Pratt wrote: > I have a server with 6 hot-swap SATA slots. It was delivered > with the first slot empty and 5 drives set up as /dev/ad4 through > /dev/ad12. I'd never paid attention to this until I wanted to add > a 6th, now 4 years later. When I popped it in, I realized the > empty bay was not 6 but rather bay 1, and of course it wouldn't > boot. Presumably /dev/ad2 had now come alive for the first time. > I popped out the disk, rebooted and after it was up, I plugged it > back in (hot) and ran sysinstall. It didn't see the disk so I couldn't > fdisk it. No device files existed for it. > > I was thinking a right approach would be to change fstab to > reference ad2 for all the system disk file systems, shutdown, > move that drive to the first bay and plug the new drive into the > 2nd bay. This seemed like more of a permanent solution. This is the solution I go with, because it's obvious and doesn't add more complexity to the picture. If the installation was originally done when the disk was considered ad4, for example, you should still be able to boot that drive (no matter what port it's on, assuming SATA), choose single-user at the beastie/loader menu, then make changes to /etc/fstab. Upon reboot (in multi-user mode) things should "just work", sans any programs which you have that might refer to disks by device (e.g. smartd.conf, etc.) You can avoid the single-user step if you enjoy living dangerously. > If those /dev/ad* files are created at boot dynamically, > this should work. I've found docs that imply that they are > dynamically discovered and created from FreeBSD 5 forward > (auto-discovery?). Are they or do I need to create them prior to > start up. They are, and it's hard to explain why/how. The "dynamic" aspect is entirely dependent upon different features/modes of the ATA configuration though. For example, a SATA controller operating in "Legacy/Compatible" mode might show two SATA disks as ata0-master and ata0-slave (even though they're SATA); the same controller in "Enhanced" mode might show the disks as ata4-master and ata5-master; the same controller in AHCI mode might show the disks as ata8-master and ata10-master. I think some people deal with this problem using glabel(8), but as I mentioned, I prefer to do things the old-fashioned way. > The thing is, there is no easy recovery from failure here since I > have no console monitor to let me see what's going on or to fix > fstab if it fails (counter-intuitively, the only place I can access > the console is from remote locations ;-)), so I just want to know > if I'm thinking straight? See bottom of my mail. > The plan is: > > 1. Change /etc/fstab entries for ad4 filesystems to ad2 > 2. Shutdown > 3. Put the system disk in Bay 1 > 4. Power up > > Should it boot? How certain are you that "bay 1" correlates with ad4? That's the real question here. You obviously have *some* form of access to the machine physically -- or, your co-location provider is offering "remote hands" capability. This would be the first time I'd *ever* heard of a co-lo offering that feature without volunteering to put a VGA monitor + keyboard on the machine so they can see what's going on for you. (Most providers will give you "remote hands" for free, as long as the duration of incident does not exceed 10-15 minutes). Since these bays are hot-swappable, why don't you have the remote hands person insert a new disk into the spare/empty bay? You should be able to run "atacontrol attach " (where channel is the ATA channel which has no disk attached to it, see atacontrol list), and then see what the newly-inserted disk's device name is. Make note of it, then do "atacontrol detach ", then have the remote hands person remove the disk they just installed. After that, edit /etc/fstab with the information you just obtained, shutdown -p now, then have the remote hands person move the OS disk into the spare/empty bay; that should be sufficient. All that said: I strongly urge you to take the time to consider the volatility of your situation. You have something that is obviously critical to you, in a remote location, with no remote way to manage it other than SSH. The year is 2008: there are tons of ways to solve this problem. Your provider should really offer serial console hookups, KVM-over-IP, or at bare minimum, their remote hands folks should be permitted to hook up a keyboard and VGA monitor and have you step them through what to do over the phone. Our co-lo provider offers this for free, as long as the duration of the incident does not take more than 10-15 minutes; otherwise, it's expensive (hundreds of dollars). If you're with a co-lo provider who doesn't offer this capability, consider switching to one who does. There is absolutely no reason to accept lack-of remote management in this day and age. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 15:47:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DF01065670 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBDD8FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:47:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id W9gi1a0081GhbT852Fnm1c; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:47:46 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WFnZ1a00V2P6wsM3TFnamq; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:47:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FgSrDd-3AAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=dGh-Jvlr1LsJXIUtrIAA:9 a=94WKAyjhR5hC7U1B7LUA:7 a=W62qbaubE9v7yhlh5SGhIJ6gpNEA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C12AC9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:47:33 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Greg Larkin Message-ID: <20081023154733.GB89723@icarus.home.lan> References: <49009B62.30507@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49009B62.30507@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Chris Pratt , FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Boot device question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:47:50 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:42:26AM -0500, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris Pratt wrote: > > I have a server with 6 hot-swap SATA slots. It was delivered > > with the first slot empty and 5 drives set up as /dev/ad4 through > > /dev/ad12. I'd never paid attention to this until I wanted to add > > a 6th, now 4 years later. When I popped it in, I realized the > > empty bay was not 6 but rather bay 1, and of course it wouldn't > > boot. Presumably /dev/ad2 had now come alive for the first time. > > I popped out the disk, rebooted and after it was up, I plugged it > > back in (hot) and ran sysinstall. It didn't see the disk so I couldn't > > fdisk it. No device files existed for it. > > > > I was thinking a right approach would be to change fstab to > > reference ad2 for all the system disk file systems, shutdown, > > move that drive to the first bay and plug the new drive into the > > 2nd bay. This seemed like more of a permanent solution. > > If those /dev/ad* files are created at boot dynamically, > > this should work. I've found docs that imply that they are > > dynamically discovered and created from FreeBSD 5 forward > > (auto-discovery?). Are they or do I need to create them prior to > > start up. > > > > The thing is, there is no easy recovery from failure here since I > > have no console monitor to let me see what's going on or to fix > > fstab if it fails (counter-intuitively, the only place I can access > > the console is from remote locations ;-)), so I just want to know > > if I'm thinking straight? The plan is: > > > > 1. Change /etc/fstab entries for ad4 filesystems to ad2 > > 2. Shutdown > > 3. Put the system disk in Bay 1 > > 4. Power up > > > > Should it boot? > > Hi Chris, > > I don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that you can > wire physical devices to specific devices files in /dev. I use the > /boot/device.hints file to do that. Check this page for more > information: > http://threads.seas.gwu.edu/cgi-bin/man2web?program=scbus§ion=4 > > Halfway down the page, you'll see directives like: > > hint.da.0.at="scbus0" > hint.da.0.target="0" > hint.da.0.unit="0" > > I believe you can do something similar with your ad devices, and force > the new drive to a different /dev/ad? device file that doesn't cause a > boot problem. AFAIK, at/target/unit are hint commands only available to da(4), at least that's what I see from the source code. I see no such support for ad(4), so I do not think this will work for him. Also, I'll remind people once more: stop modifying device.hints! The file can/will be overwritten in some cases, and you will lose your changes! You're living dangerously. Use loader.conf to do what you need; you can literally copy/paste those lines into loader.conf and achieve the same, without the risks. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 16:48:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B02C106569A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0156.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527A58FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E2619481ABD for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:48:28 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2, 0, 0, 324ff8c55bf5e635, 9510f55e4507d164, eagletree@hughes.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RULES_HIT:2:355:379:541:564:599:601:945:947:966:967:973:980:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1535:1593:1594:1605:1606:1730:1747:1766:1792:1801:2194:2196:2199:2200:2393:2525:2553:2559:2563:2682:2685:2693:2736:2737:2857:2859:2899:2901:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3280:3636:3740:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:4250:4362:4385:4470:4605:4647:5007:6114:6119:6248:7558:7652:7679:7808:7874:7903:7974:7996:8501:9025:9121:9160, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6744118153.direcpc.com [67.44.118.153]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf10.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <20081023154308.GA89723@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081023154308.GA89723@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Pratt Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:48:18 -0700 To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-session-marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 Subject: Re: Boot device question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:48:30 -0000 On Oct 23, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 08:12:38AM -0700, Chris Pratt wrote: >> I have a server with 6 hot-swap SATA slots. It was delivered >> ... >> >> I was thinking a right approach would be to change fstab to >> reference ad2 for all the system disk file systems, shutdown, >> move that drive to the first bay and plug the new drive into the >> 2nd bay. This seemed like more of a permanent solution. > > This is the solution I go with, because it's obvious and doesn't add > more complexity to the picture. > > If the installation was originally done when the disk was considered > ad4, for example, you should still be able to boot that drive (no > matter > what port it's on, assuming SATA), choose single-user at the > beastie/loader menu, then make changes to /etc/fstab. Upon reboot (in > multi-user mode) things should "just work", sans any programs which > you > have that might refer to disks by device (e.g. smartd.conf, etc.) > > You can avoid the single-user step if you enjoy living dangerously. > It was sensed as ad4 and there wasn't an ad2 (which always made me wonder though not enough to actually look into it). This is why I presumed if I placed the system disk in the first bay, it would be seen as / dev/ad2. Single user and a console are the key here I can tell. No free lunch. >> If those /dev/ad* files are created at boot dynamically, >> this should work. I've found docs that imply that they are >> dynamically discovered and created from FreeBSD 5 forward >> (auto-discovery?). Are they or do I need to create them prior to >> start up. > > They are, and it's hard to explain why/how. > > The "dynamic" aspect is entirely dependent upon different features/ > modes > of the ATA configuration though. For example, a SATA controller > operating in "Legacy/Compatible" mode might show two SATA disks as > ata0-master and ata0-slave (even though they're SATA); the same > controller in "Enhanced" mode might show the disks as ata4-master > and ata5-master; the same controller in AHCI mode might show the disks > as ata8-master and ata10-master. > > I think some people deal with this problem using glabel(8), but as I > mentioned, I prefer to do things the old-fashioned way. I see why a simple answer doesn't pop out on searching. Too many possible configurations and results vary with each. This driver appears to enumerate the bays as ad2 (hoping), ad4, 6, 8, 10, and 12. The device minor numbers seemed they must have been created on the fly since acd0 is 79, ad4 is presently 80, ad6, 8, 10, and 12 are 81 through 84 respectively. > >> The thing is, there is no easy recovery from failure here since I >> have no console monitor to let me see what's going on or to fix >> fstab if it fails (counter-intuitively, the only place I can access >> the console is from remote locations ;-)), so I just want to know >> if I'm thinking straight? > > See bottom of my mail. > >> The plan is: >> >> 1. Change /etc/fstab entries for ad4 filesystems to ad2 >> 2. Shutdown >> 3. Put the system disk in Bay 1 >> 4. Power up >> >> Should it boot? > > How certain are you that "bay 1" correlates with ad4? That's the real > question here. > I think I see your point, the second bay may not be the system disk. Getting a console sounds like it's necessary. I didn't really explain that. It's not a co-locate, but a business's server room with 10 servers all connected to a KVM. The KVM is reachable only from certain IPs. The local monitor is fried and I have no spares. You caught me in laziness here. I need to haul a monitor with me and I can more safely do this switch. Seeing what's happening at boot will tell me if the above assumptions are valid and how to proceed. I think you implied that you move the disk first, boot and see what we end up with. It eliminates numerous questions and allows a recoverable process. I'll get a real console on it. This also means I can use a live CD disk if necessary. > You obviously have *some* form of access to the machine physically -- > or, your co-location provider is offering "remote hands" capability. > ... > If you're with a co-lo provider who doesn't offer this capability, > consider switching to one who does. There is absolutely no reason > to accept lack-of remote management in this day and age. > Thanks for your reply. As always, you give a lot of thought to your responses. I'll study some of this you've mentioned to see if I can understand how the devices are created for my specific setups on all the servers. It's always quite fuzzy to me. > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 17:19:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719A0106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mk@mkdev.eu) Received: from natrium.sulf.at (natrium.sulf.at [88.198.116.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E044A8FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mk@mkdev.eu) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (132.Red-88-15-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [88.15.174.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by natrium.sulf.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E44114C7 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4900AE9A.4070107@mkdev.eu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:04:26 +0200 From: Markus Klaschka Organization: mkdev.eu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20080208 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000101030001010702010808" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Photoshop under wine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:19:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000101030001010702010808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi list, I have exactly that issue: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=3198&sid=5834d53c839cabfb29b6c2291acb0dca ...any ideas? Cheers Markus -- Markus Klaschka MKDev - Markus Klaschka Development S.L Passeig Maritím 48-52 78087 La Savina, Espaņa http://www.mkdev.eu Spain: 0034 - 63 747 23 07 UK: 0044 - 750 910 2718 Mail: mk@mkdev.eu Skype: mark-use IRC: mark-use @ irc.freenode.net : #freebsd, ##security, #freebsd-src, #bsdforen.de, #bsdgroup.de --------------000101030001010702010808-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 17:44:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1838C106566B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1078FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9958 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2008 17:44:46 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Oct 2008 17:44:46 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 8833B50831; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:44:45 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <698916.94575.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:44:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <698916.94575.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (mdh's message of "Thu\, 23 Oct 2008 07\:51\:53 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44k5bzmcj6.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:44:48 -0000 mdh writes: > > If he can get to the system console, why would he need to bother booting to single user mode? He said he has the root password. He should just be able to login normally, if he can get to the system console. To be honest, I was just guessing that there was more going on than we were told. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 18:02:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4801065681 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED238FC37 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.173.17.44] (helo=moosa) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Kt4Vn-0000zr-Nl; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:02:19 +0400 To: "matt donovan" References: <38095920@ipt.ru> <28283d910810211519s27e77ed1p4ab1b67ec6087d70@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:02:10 +0400 In-Reply-To: <28283d910810211519s27e77ed1p4ab1b67ec6087d70@mail.gmail.com> (matt donovan's message of "Tue\, 21 Oct 2008 18\:19\:31 -0400") Message-ID: <84474333@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: luizbcampos , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: downloading linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:02:21 -0000 On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:19:31 -0400 matt donovan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:49:01 -0200 luizbcampos wrote: > > > > > After I had tried to download linux_base-fc4 I got file > > > unavailable not found no access...I need to put my printer to work! > > > > You may try to use packages: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html > > > > > What`s the matter? > > > > You didn't show any diagnostics (exact commands, exact output, etc.) > > so it's hard to say anything. > > > the problem with the port your installing is that it takes 5 mirrors or so > to even find .rpms that even work A patch for ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk has just been committed. The problem should go away. Thanks for pointing this out. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 18:33:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FD11065679; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245EC8FC0C; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kt502-0006cr-3r; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:33:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4900C37C.5020901@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:33:32 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49009B62.30507@FreeBSD.org> <20081023154733.GB89723@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081023154733.GB89723@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Cc: Chris Pratt , FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Boot device question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:33:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > AFAIK, at/target/unit are hint commands only available to da(4), > at least that's what I see from the source code. I see no such > support for ad(4), so I do not think this will work for him. > > Also, I'll remind people once more: stop modifying device.hints! The > file can/will be overwritten in some cases, and you will lose your > changes! You're living dangerously. > > Use loader.conf to do what you need; you can literally copy/paste > those lines into loader.conf and achieve the same, without the risks. > Hi Jeremy, Excellent points all - thank you. I will make the migration from device.hints to loader.conf as you noted! Regards, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkAw3sACgkQ0sRouByUApBwcgCgl3Ka/ilELTHCOfjmnuSU7mtF 0rEAoIgvR2k4kczTKmb1ofFTFXfEL4+W =mkkU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 19:23:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787CB1065673 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3B38FC30 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0EC5C22; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:25:33 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:23:10 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Bud References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gonzalo Nemmi , Polytropon , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:23:12 -0000 Valentin Bud wrote: > hello, > what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. > i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI > (ess eye) > unit system. > so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. > > a good day, > v #########... Aloha, The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since the 1860's. There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. In many places in the country both are used. Tue US Military uses Metric. The film and Video industry for example. Here in Hawaii the population is very diverse and most people have come from Metric countries. If you have to ever work on maintaining equipment, mechanical or electronic, here in the US, both tool sizes are a must. I had to replace a storage battery yesterday on a clients Japanese Fork Lift and the fasteners were all metric except for one battery terminal clamp. I think the choice by locale for FreeBSD is an excellent solution. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 19:41:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084201065736 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD15D8FC18 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000088000000220-d5-4900d33d439a Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:40:44 -0400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: man -t odd page size Thread-Index: Ack1RLv0CjOmEWxpToezksfI77JKdQAAWhMg References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au><139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:41:20 -0000 On Behalf Of Al Plant >Valentin Bud wrote: >> hello, >> what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. >> i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI >> (ess eye) >> unit system. >> so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. >>=20 > The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since=20 > the 1860's. >=20 > There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. However, there is one problem. When I go into Staples, Office Depot or Sam's, they only have letter sized paper. I have yet to see a single box of A4 or any other ISO size. Sure, my printers can handle A4, but where can I buy a couple reams of it? Bob McConnell Ithaca, NY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 19:52:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F891065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0329A8FC22 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8059192; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:52:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8059190; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: <4900D601.2090208@radel.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:52:33 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob McConnell References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au><139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020905020000070600090506" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:52:46 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020905020000070600090506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Al Plant >> Valentin Bud wrote: >>> hello, >>> what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. >>> i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the > SI >>> (ess eye) >>> unit system. >>> so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. >>> > >> The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since >> the 1860's. >> >> There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. > > However, there is one problem. When I go into Staples, Office Depot or > Sam's, they only have letter sized paper. I have yet to see a single box > of A4 or any other ISO size. Sure, my printers can handle A4, but where > can I buy a couple reams of it? > > Bob McConnell > Ithaca, NY Locally, probably nowhere. But try www.staples.com where there's currently one type of paper available by the ream or case. Of course, it costs more and then you'll need to get A4 binders, slightly longer file folders, a new file cabinet, .... 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 20:04:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B6A1065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42CE8FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000093c00000220-c4-4900d8a0301b Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:03:43 -0400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:02:33 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4900D601.2090208@radel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: man -t odd page size Thread-Index: Ack1SMRZZL1gUVDiQmi1lWTzHR9fgwAANScg References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au><139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> <4900D601.2090208@radel.com> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:04:21 -0000 From: Jon Radel >Bob McConnell wrote: >> On Behalf Of Al Plant >>> Valentin Bud wrote: >>>> hello, >>>> what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. >>>> i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the >> SI >>>> (ess eye) >>>> unit system. >>>> so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. >>>> >>=20 >>> The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since=20 >>> the 1860's. >>> >>> There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. >>=20 >> However, there is one problem. When I go into Staples, Office Depot or >> Sam's, they only have letter sized paper. I have yet to see a single box >> of A4 or any other ISO size. Sure, my printers can handle A4, but where >> can I buy a couple reams of it? >>=20 >> Bob McConnell >> Ithaca, NY >=20 > Locally, probably nowhere. But try >=20 > www.staples.com >=20 > where there's currently one type of paper available by the ream or case. > Of course, it costs more and then you'll need to get A4 binders, > slightly longer file folders, a new file cabinet, .... >=20 > It's not easy switching. Well, in this case I don't plan to switch the whole house over. But I do have a few documents and schematics that I would like to print on the correct size paper instead of having to bypass the size check at the printer. It does look like online ordering is the only way for now. Thanks, Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 20:35:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828701065676 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36EE8FC14 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so179217yxb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:35:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=eK9givkiah3bV1roA/SFRxqDdudhveijTTgj7NX3cPA=; b=aZqCxj2qAdQxQFRxGHIGAC/+d4sAd36kegHWsY9Pe4mrXqNqQ6iSfkLgVrG36k1iaw cLdSkGLMhkudJn+fbx15fzeFmC+7P/8oI0ZkaY+Pxb2GsSMyaVa3GQlSlq1wD5Z8pJO2 iQdG0ZtVLc7JJfE6PUYzqU1RUwr6tfPXc7syM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=Po5pAvwhse+QXj3Y6sQQUrUL9oLdIFyPO94T7swI7p/ObIFWi4m4k4TLZhMfpetgza 4bOv/jWT9sns/JCJl5o283uOT7n2srJQgUtUCfttjOMftwr1qxwI/tiACDJxnJwZLAIo T3i3fntchC2RHya1Vu13cObUZhQfUiorezRus= Received: by 10.90.119.20 with SMTP id r20mr985078agc.87.1224794145661; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-194-74.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.194.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm313757agc.31.2008.10.23.13.35.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:35:36 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810231835.36888.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:35:48 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 6:44:59 am Valentin Bud wrote: > hello, > what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. > i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI > (ess eye) > unit system. > so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. > > a good day, > v > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:35:25 -0200 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 10:38:40 pm Polytropon wrote: > > > > [..] > > > > Polytropon: thanks for pdfman script - but does 'pdfman ipfw' work for > > you? Here the 'overprinting' is misaligned in gv, while others are ok. > > > > > > I know this is not the best idea, but it should be accomplishable > > > > without many problems. A better idea would be to write a simple > > > > filter that convert the man page (including formatting characters) > > > > into LaTeX source and then run it through pdflatex. > > > > > > Exactly .. you got it just the way I wanted .. after your > > > explanantion, > > > > the > > > > > question _begs_ to be asked: do we, citizens of ISO 216 adopting > > > > countries, > > > > > have to walk that cumbersome path in order to get something as simple > > > as > > > > an > > > > > ISO compliant document?? > > > > > > Shouldn't it be the other way around??? > > > > > > Does an inmensily huge majority have to walk the extra mile in order > > > to > > > > get an > > > > > ISO compliant document whereas a small minority benefits from having > > > non > > > > ISO > > > > > complaint default formats??? > > > > Gonzalo: shouldn't that be 'the extra kilometre?' :) > > > > Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your > > theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? No .. languages are not ISO standards... let alone the fact that we are not discussing languages in here. > > I doubt an 'immensely huge majority' of FreeBSD systems are located > > outside the US (data at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/countries.php > > notwithstanding, reckoning Australia to have the most FreeBSD users :) That's only if you take bsdstats as the ultimate and most authoritative word on the location of FreeBSD based systems. I do not. And actually Im running 3 FreeBSD systems in my place and Argentina doesn't even figure on that list. > > > I, for once, would pretty much like to know the logic behind that > > > > decision. > > > > It's not logic, nor even a decision, but simply a matter of tradition. I wonder why did we stop using the abacus .. or candles .. they where pretty traditional back in those days ... > > > > > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the > > > > default > > > > > > > choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US > > > > but > > > > > > > useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the > > > > > likes??? > > > > I've yet to run into any printing or display software that didn't offer > > a wide choice of formats, including A4 and many other A* sizes, so what > > any particular software chooses as its 'default' scarcely matters. To you .. but not for me or for anyone who lives in a country in which non-iso-standard paper (like letter) is simply _not_available_ or costs twice as much as A4. I undertand this may not be a problem for someone who can just "man -t man | ps2pdf14 - > man_getopt" and get a printable pdf that uses the whole page but I have to go "zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - tmp.pdf" in order to get a usefull output or use the first method and waste a lot of paper (wasting resources .. wich is something the, we, citizens of the third world can not afford). > > > > You're getting my thoughts, man. :-) I'd like to see this happen, > > > > too, but I don't think the developers of FreeBSD and all the fine > > > > applications will say goodbye to their Letter, Legal, Exec etc. > > > > paper formats. A4 isn't a DIN standard anymore, its ISO for many > > > > years now, and unlike Letter, it has the ability to be scaled > > > > (to half size, to quarter size, to double size) easily. Today, > > > > the manual replacement of many different settings is needed to > > > > get a system A4 compliant. > > > > > > > > Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than > > > > a century now. =^_^= > > > > > > I really hope they do, or at least, start contemplating the fact that > > > > ISO > > > > > standards are usefull as a whole or are not usefull at all .. > > > > That's not true at all; there's no 'all or nothing' about standards. > > What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that. ISO 216 works (and it has worked ever since it's conception, more than 100 years ago) and is adopted in the real world, except for the US, Mexico and Canada. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html > > Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications > > rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP > > plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite? It became a defacto standard ... Just as much as Microsoft Windows did .. Are by any chance using Windows????? > > Apart from SNMP and its use of (a subset of) the ASN.1 / BER notation, > > and the X.500-X.521 directory services model to the extent of X.501 > > certificates, not much of the massive CCITT / OSI / ISO 'standards' have > > ever entered common usage, most being a camel designed by committee. > > > > In '91 I bought three 'fascicles' (volumes) of the CCITT Blue Book for > > the best part of A$500, then convinced it was the way things would go. > > I was entirely wrong :) but I don't regret that study for ASN.1 alone. Sorry to hear that :( > > > Gretings from Argentina, where A4 is the standard from 1943. > > > > > > And yes .. so are the metric system, kilograms, litres, etc :) > > > > I suspect the Yanquis will abandon letter, legal etc paper sizes around > > the same time they jettison pounds and ounces, feet and inches, gallons > > and pints .. that is, you probably shouldn't be holding your breath :) Never did, never will in my lifetime ... ;) > > cheers, Ian Regards Ian :) -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 20:39:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAA71065670 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06E88FC1C for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so70671ana.13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=AAz5TxFFyBguuV9AG8rt9m2ZOEvJr57DGRaPsl3wSCc=; b=owCeVjDqGKsdelXMExT0jqQEUvbqlvIr2Thkwm2TFPi5kSp3OoJK5H/dqg62BodlQw S3q47GJHnz9f3bMOlG11OPxg5yTkR/qtRJwV3fAgYS+Z9ec/8bZ61JWTBdkh6Lcw4Hs8 fMiCDrHcDiCLjy5Ny7KBYlh5UKgeIyJPhMVLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=bJBB6f7GaTwZtLVDqVWKWCDMlctTukANkE9yA0zma4a8hFxMe8HnDwrE5Kpq+Qtoam QZFs4+4iFFJbefx40pt2Y9tf4fpNv2rF/FcQSROXHZcRZX5S41cFjpf6sXf78BJK9Aat UsEep+7wvoEHdp/MVwonCYZxJo8TY2/Wp4ZPY= Received: by 10.100.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr1218593and.134.1224794393371; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-194-74.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.194.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm11575047ywc.9.2008.10.23.13.39.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:39:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:39:45 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081023105011.893a479a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023105011.893a479a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810231839.45618.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:39:55 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 6:50:11 am Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:37:56 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your > > theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? > > Let me follow this Micky Mouse Logic. :-) Because the computer has > been invented by a German, all computer stuff should be in the > german language. And now all the Americans can feel how the average > german computer user feels today: scared by all the things he doesn't > understand. :-) No, not German, please !! It's really hard :( French and Spanish and way easier ! or Italian ! (just joking :) but seriously .. german is way too hard to :( ) Cheers :) -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 20:50:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBE71065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDF98FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so183104yxb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=rZVywtkTq+7/SNnyArqZLlA6wgyp0OlvHEdt6wkjMbQ=; b=CTDKmTks2xZvX6ht3m/coS9zhiiWVxhKxlMa1Ln4mR749JE3x5cw7XkPTIGMSn2EOB FJ9GMl8fdn+ousCazGxwrRrZDKyi1Ss0WXSlZs9xkSikfRG4GvxLD80gBAGdkST22/nt sbkCM4HEGGPOZCQkCsHmYV/soREY48Sf6MmqU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=LxVr9YSN0Sbz4/ByuN9soZv+IP5+XhoYeR2Myf4i9ZKRoD7Kj6igHSqVa+itxbAUzl VeZnPuutfJa6f8uPW/+fVlzKol7OzxcbsT9ghah/uo9Ixs1A1kBtQPze5C1c59l5Tw7p z0hieYoRxaVcY7nx7M2rtxCebYHG9JHNIeASo= Received: by 10.231.15.205 with SMTP id l13mr806700iba.0.1224795052798; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-177-194-74.speedy.com.ar ([190.177.194.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm10951451ywo.7.2008.10.23.13.50.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:50:44 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810231850.44401.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:50:55 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 5:39:36 pm Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Al Plant > > >Valentin Bud wrote: > >> hello, > >> what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. > >> i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the > > SI > > >> (ess eye) > >> unit system. > >> so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. > > > > The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since > > the 1860's. > > > > There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. > > However, there is one problem. When I go into Staples, Office Depot or > Sam's, they only have letter sized paper. I have yet to see a single box > of A4 or any other ISO size. Sure, my printers can handle A4, but where > can I buy a couple reams of it? Turn it around and that's what happens to the rest of us who do not live in the US or Canada :( I'm not saying "get rid of letter / drop letter" .. im just proposing to analize the idea that "letter" is no longer the one and only option available and that defaulting to it has no bad side effects .. A4 affects too many of us .. and having apps defaulting to letter is increasingly becoming a serious shortcoming that should start to be taken into consideration ... at least give us a simple to use flag :( > Bob McConnell > Ithaca, NY > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 20:44:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB23C1065671 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465B88FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9NKfrNw082926; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:41:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9NKfrb7082925; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:41:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:41:53 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Al Plant Message-ID: <20081023204153.GA82832@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081023035928.C55AC1065738@hub.freebsd.org> <20081023174911.P4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <139b44430810230144j6001c244ndc3d57102d22d9d3@mail.gmail.com> <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4900CF1E.3020800@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:05:20 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Gonzalo Nemmi , Ian Smith , Valentin Bud Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:44:57 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:23:10AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Valentin Bud wrote: > >hello, > >what do you know about this site: http://www.metricamerica.com/. > >i don't remember where i have read that America is going to apply the SI > >(ess eye) > >unit system. > >so things are going to change maybe even the A4 papersize. > > > >a good day, > >v > #########... > > Aloha, > > The Metric System has been a legal measure in the United States since > the 1860's. > > There is nothing to stop anybody legally from using it. Isn't it about time we dump the obsolete 'metric' system based on the paltry base-10 arithmetic and move in to the future with a digitally compatible system based on powers of 2! Divide the day in to 16 hours, 16 minutes per hour, 16 seconds per minute, 16 ??? per second (make up a name), Divide the speed of light by a big power of 2 to get your base measurement of length. Design 6 more digit symbols. Through away some of the dross in plain ASCII and fit them in there. Quit trying to force people to count on their fingers. ////jerry > > In many places in the country both are used. Tue US Military uses > Metric. The film and Video industry for example. Here in Hawaii the > population is very diverse and most people have come from Metric > countries. If you have to ever work on maintaining equipment, mechanical > or electronic, here in the US, both tool sizes are a must. I had to > replace a storage battery yesterday on a clients Japanese Fork Lift and > the fasteners were all metric except for one battery terminal clamp. > > I think the choice by locale for FreeBSD is an excellent solution. > > > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 22:39:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338061065681 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9558FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9NMdGH0018294; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:39:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9NMdEa5018291; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:39:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:39:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20081023150144.GC81643@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20081024003903.F18194@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <27ade5280810221955l6bb7fe23u504b008e6799fc57@mail.gmail.com> <444p33pmbp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20081023144157.S10109@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081023150144.GC81643@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Locked out of Root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:39:28 -0000 > > It guarantees that the root password is passed encrypted. > > So, next time do NOT enable root loging via ssh. > Instead, put the non-root user in the wheel group. funny :) > > ////jerry > >> >> if course it's not bright to login as root over telnet through public >> network, but too - it's not security hole in system, just in >> administrator's brain if he/she do it this way. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 22:44:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CB71065679 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com (s206-75-152-197.ab.hsia.telus.net [206.75.152.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400E48FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@stilltech.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.geekdelivery.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.geekdelivery.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ABBF2B55 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.geekdelivery.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.geekdelivery.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8A06h+BhstsH for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:11:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dev.local (unknown [206.75.152.198]) by mail.geekdelivery.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3BF86F2245 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:11:51 -0600 (MDT) From: RAY To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:07:34 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810231607.34383.ray@stilltech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problems getting server on line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:44:09 -0000 Greetings; I have an existing server running FreeBsd 6.3. It's running as a name/web/mail server. I have built a new server to replace it running FreeBsd 7.0. I have both servers attached to the same router, with the production server sitting in the DMZ. I have tried to switch them over by simply changing which server the DMZ points to. When I did this, the new server didn't work. I could connect to the webserver (telnet to port 80) using either localhost or the private IP address (192.168...), but not using the domain name. I could connect to the default website properly from another computer on the same router using the private ip address. My first guess was that it was the firewall on the server configured incorrectly, so I disabled PF which didn't help. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Ray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 00:29:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452801065679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from replay.freeBSD-hack.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:451a:cda5:8:21e:68ff:febc:8b07]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037C68FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from replay.freeBSD-hack.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by replay.freeBSD-hack.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9NJml3i001833 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:48:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: by replay.freeBSD-hack.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9NJmliC001832 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:48:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) X-Authentication-Warning: replay.freeBSD-hack.net: replay set sender to replay@sdf.lonestar.org using -f From: Juan Ortega To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:48:47 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810231248.47349.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> Cc: Subject: Shutting down help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:29:27 -0000 I'm using FreeBSD amd64 =A08-0-Current I set up window maker to start by "startx" command, but when I exit the window maker the screen just turns black nothing works so I'm force to unplug the power each time. This happens "sometimes" other times the terminal shows up and I can shutdown manually. Since I'm using a snapshot version of FreeBSD is this a bug? I'm not sure what logs to copy and paste here for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 00:29:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504E81065670 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from replay.freeBSD-hack.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:451a:cda5:8:21e:68ff:febc:8b07]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7BC8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from replay.freeBSD-hack.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by replay.freeBSD-hack.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9M5gqKG071340 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:42:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: by replay.freeBSD-hack.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9M5gkCJ071339 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:42:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from replay@sdf.lonestar.org) X-Authentication-Warning: replay.freeBSD-hack.net: replay set sender to replay@sdf.lonestar.org using -f From: Juan Ortega To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:42:46 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810212242.46534.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> Cc: Subject: Trouble Shutting down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:29:28 -0000 I'm using FreeBSD amd64 8-0-Current I set up window maker to start by "startx" command, but when I exit the window maker the screen just turns black nothing works so I'm force to unplug the power each time. This happens "sometimes" other times the terminal shows up and I can shutdown manually. Since I'm using a snapshot version of FreeBSD is this a bug? I'm not sure what logs to copy and paste here for more information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 01:03:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1391065673 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E518B8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so1929237rvb.3 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Wk8aKVHIT6khd1hZv3rf0FVv14ACMOTvPFJkDtxWyKI=; b=KERq/yjuM1Y4UNuDG5uSu6RfdNwXvvsZVwOggkFOJ/WHB2Z6Mr3udv8ZKHNOAbDTyU pCqwyviLrO/Gol0MxneO/mb5uryu4rOkPBR9vQOTkT2f0jqLrDCFs9azEGiUAJap/CFa FIV5eBwr65+sgK/BE0ZuK1WNTyTIKRyKwpGo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ydr9QUYLGnGy+cL9qrPlpV1EmyICgh3zl63D6knQGUdUyY7HZdz/DD2oORe4GAwBCw ODa/Mltrv5Trdnjh9nJPjxxGjfh7z2bi/jt7hzo/B+ta7Y2Hr4UJfW/ujnc4jSNc613B 5znS49fNyKkFCj2BJmjQv2qH1NrK9pA631wlo= Received: by 10.140.172.20 with SMTP id u20mr782729rve.16.1224808266032; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:31:05 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:03:56 -0000 Hello: I have some weird behavior I'm trying to figure out and was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction. I'm running a FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-amd64 machine. If I add /usr/lib32 to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH it breaks all of my binaries on my 64-bit machine. For example: [root@hagen ~]# file /bin/ls /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [root@hagen ~]# ldd /bin/ls /bin/ls: libutil.so.5 => /lib/libutil.so.5 (0x800630000) libncurses.so.6 => /lib/libncurses.so.6 (0x80073d000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x800896000) [root@hagen ~]# ls -l /libexec/ total 306 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 163864 Aug 21 2007 ld-elf.so.1 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 146420 Aug 21 2007 ld-elf32.so.1 [root@hagen ~]# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/bin:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 [root@hagen ~]# ls /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib32/libutil.so.5: unsupported file layout [root@hagen ~]# unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH [root@hagen ~]# ls (normal ls output) [root@hagen ~]# ls -l /usr/lib/libut* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 100518 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib/libutil.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 17 Sep 11 11:44 /usr/lib/libutil.so -> /lib/libutil.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 103846 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib/libutil_p.a [root@hagen ~]# file /lib/libutil.so.5 /lib/libutil.so.5: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (FreeBSD), stripped I would ASSUME that rtld would look at my LD_LIBRARY_PATH and use /usr/lib to find libraries, not /usr/lib32. Why does it insist on picking /usr/lib32 when "/bin/ls" is CLEARLY a 64-bit binary? This doesn't make complete sense to me just yet. Someone I'm sure is going "don't do that" and I agree. The issue is I'm porting a library/framework (boost) and it creates a runtime LD_LIBRARY_PATH for its gcc toolchain with the above which breaks the build ROYALLY on FreeBSD 64-bit machine. I'm trying to come up with the right heuristic here. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks! -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 01:04:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379A01065683 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6E88FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so695661fgb.35 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FV78YwRL2C18ZETZbWYMENQFtBYSYGnrobA6YVmpmXk=; b=S5dEVYU3n6DuRXrreCJ8aBbQBFX6SshQE57vQu/mBXZyor83iNYIrh5/TyQiT8c+Qe 3FmV33lQpZaqe18ECTiCpgQjlCfv470ZwvGVxviPZbYgKJ06joR40YGrqNWIBC8GY1hb VSIQNQIswVQaFxEZxzDavKy0XnM1xVWnVzlvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Uk6hPlCWT8hAw5ptLcusuw02pp6vqG17BIcUgSF3ZisDk0fVm11c6TzwbZW7XdxJFB wwj6pl+3eGpkcKUDTuuWzwqNqdMFQ1NHIShk1ra+CqBEFlHP0Ad/R+aB6BJPjinBQnGw ArbC/qw0fCWFJg2Ol4+5L/n9Uwmc9+MWJlo5g= Received: by 10.187.227.5 with SMTP id e5mr34123far.86.1224808900339; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ad871310810231741h1d300b29q1046d3643af35139@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:41:40 -0400 From: "Glen Barber" To: "Juan Ortega" In-Reply-To: <200810212242.46534.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810212242.46534.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Shutting down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:04:49 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Juan Ortega wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD amd64 8-0-Current > > I set up window maker to start by "startx" command, > but when I exit the window maker the screen just turns > black nothing works so I'm force to unplug the power each > time. This happens "sometimes" other times the terminal > shows up and I can shutdown manually. Since I'm using > a snapshot version of FreeBSD is this a bug? > > I'm not sure what logs to copy and paste here for more information. > Do you have the drivers for your graphics card installed? What type of graphics card is this? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 01:23:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3311065670; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAAB8FC0C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015F46D44E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E5A8A844BA; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:23:08 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Alexander Sack" References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:23:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> ("Dag-Erling =?utf-8?Q?Sm=C3=B8rg?= =?utf-8?Q?rav=22's?= message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:05:38 +0200") Message-ID: <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:23:10 -0000 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav writes: > If you look at the rtld(1) man page, there are a number of environment > variables you can set to debug the loader. I'm not sure how helpful > they are, though. You can rebuild rtld(1) with debugging enabled: % cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf % make clean % make DEBUG_FLAGS=3D-DDEBUG % make install % echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH=20 /home/des/lib:/opt/varnish/lib:/usr/local/lib % LD_DEBUG=3D1 /usr/bin/true /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is initialized, base address =3D 0x800500000 RTLD dynamic =3D 0x8006305b0 RTLD pltgot =3D 0x0 processing main program's program header Filling in DT_DEBUG entry lm_init("(null)") loading LD_PRELOAD libraries loading needed objects Searching for "libc.so.7" Trying "/home/des/lib/libc.so.7" Trying "/opt/varnish/lib/libc.so.7" Trying "/usr/local/lib/libc.so.7" Trying "/lib/libc.so.7" loading "/lib/libc.so.7" Ignoring d_tag 1879048185 =3D 0x6ffffff9 0x80063b000 .. 0x80085efff: /lib/libc.so.7 checking for required versions initializing initial thread local storage relocating "/usr/bin/true" relocating "/lib/libc.so.7" doing copy relocations initializing key program variables "__progname": *0x5005e8 <-- 0x7fffffffebc1 "environ": *0x500878 <-- 0x7fffffffe9a8 initializing thread locks calling init function for /lib/libc.so.7 at 0x800664da8 "__sysctl" in "libc.so.7" =3D=3D> 0x80071ae00 in "libc.so.7" reloc_jmpslot: *0x800845c78 =3D 0x80071ae00 transferring control to program entry point =3D 0x400420 "atexit" in "true" =3D=3D> 0x8006fac3e in "libc.so.7" reloc_jmpslot: *0x500868 =3D 0x8006fac3e "exit" in "true" =3D=3D> 0x8006af118 in "libc.so.7" reloc_jmpslot: *0x500860 =3D 0x8006af118 "__cxa_finalize" in "libc.so.7" =3D=3D> 0x8006fa940 in "libc.so.7" reloc_jmpslot: *0x800846140 =3D 0x8006fa940 rtld_exit() calling fini function for /lib/libc.so.7 at 0x80071ae60 "_exit" in "libc.so.7" =3D=3D> 0x8006cfff0 in "libc.so.7" reloc_jmpslot: *0x8008471d8 =3D 0x8006cfff0 DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 01:24:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0E81065679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE128FC38 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0E56D44C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 394EF844A8; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:05:38 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Alexander Sack" References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:05:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> (Alexander Sack's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:31:05 -0400") Message-ID: <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:24:31 -0000 "Alexander Sack" writes: > I have some weird behavior I'm trying to figure out and was wondering > if someone can point me in the right direction. I'm running a FreeBSD > 6.1-RELEASE-amd64 machine. If I add /usr/lib32 to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH > it breaks all of my binaries on my 64-bit machine. > [...] > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/bin:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 I'm surprised you have /usr/bin in there... > I would ASSUME that rtld would look at my LD_LIBRARY_PATH and use > /usr/lib to find libraries, not /usr/lib32. Why does it insist on > picking /usr/lib32 when "/bin/ls" is CLEARLY a 64-bit binary? This > doesn't make complete sense to me just yet. If you look at the rtld(1) man page, there are a number of environment variables you can set to debug the loader. I'm not sure how helpful they are, though. > Someone I'm sure is going "don't do that" and I agree. Well, yeah, but it should (at the very least) fail in a more graceful manner. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 01:48:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17FC106569D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CE48FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so583095rvf.43 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:48:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SMMVLKEc+XRyEOupMmcta1KpSbjw85U+8lO/Vov6WwM=; b=f5QyguVF14hJdAmYuOG1sQ1m2UGFIRggGMXJdk5ydOoxVRXQNhKlTXLFRAbxNKpmZ+ 8dMMmlT4hhiAQTsVVjKCRD72BbvOq1aE1s/dLqMChOvcyypGXx7kDG1MTyY52OfVyDz1 QOElnnpWWbE/Dw0noJHxdCkDLX+AkEC28fY6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FrFQCX8UQvlWAIx2vfGM/iLzWtugLoTLo678YuboCgGBh3MtsN51v+Rlc8t4FUI9Iy nt9GdnQ4LSo3b8QVPvIwsHOfNbpdasMRKXiPlmh2rZSkyoxaDb7fu6GPUCmGcaN+SpNu kppbhY105LrSROIdyKRmZVHyM1ny6S0ETluYs= Received: by 10.141.88.3 with SMTP id q3mr814602rvl.46.1224812927543; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:48:47 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=" In-Reply-To: <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:48:48 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav writes: >> If you look at the rtld(1) man page, there are a number of environment >> variables you can set to debug the loader. I'm not sure how helpful >> they are, though. > > You can rebuild rtld(1) with debugging enabled: > > % cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf > % make clean > % make DEBUG_FLAGS=3D-DDEBUG > % make install > % echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH > /home/des/lib:/opt/varnish/lib:/usr/local/lib > % LD_DEBUG=3D1 /usr/bin/true > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is initialized, base address =3D 0x800500000 > RTLD dynamic =3D 0x8006305b0 > RTLD pltgot =3D 0x0 > processing main program's program header > Filling in DT_DEBUG entry > lm_init("(null)") > loading LD_PRELOAD libraries > loading needed objects > Searching for "libc.so.7" > Trying "/home/des/lib/libc.so.7" > Trying "/opt/varnish/lib/libc.so.7" > Trying "/usr/local/lib/libc.so.7" > Trying "/lib/libc.so.7" > loading "/lib/libc.so.7" > Ignoring d_tag 1879048185 =3D 0x6ffffff9 > 0x80063b000 .. 0x80085efff: /lib/libc.so.7 > checking for required versions > initializing initial thread local storage > relocating "/usr/bin/true" > relocating "/lib/libc.so.7" > doing copy relocations > initializing key program variables > "__progname": *0x5005e8 <-- 0x7fffffffebc1 > "environ": *0x500878 <-- 0x7fffffffe9a8 > initializing thread locks > calling init function for /lib/libc.so.7 at 0x800664da8 > "__sysctl" in "libc.so.7" =3D=3D> 0x80071ae00 in "libc.so.7" > reloc_jmpslot: *0x800845c78 =3D 0x80071ae00 > transferring control to program entry point =3D 0x400420 > "atexit" in "true" =3D=3D> 0x8006fac3e in "libc.so.7" > reloc_jmpslot: *0x500868 =3D 0x8006fac3e > "exit" in "true" =3D=3D> 0x8006af118 in "libc.so.7" > reloc_jmpslot: *0x500860 =3D 0x8006af118 > "__cxa_finalize" in "libc.so.7" =3D=3D> 0x8006fa940 in "libc.so.7" > reloc_jmpslot: *0x800846140 =3D 0x8006fa940 > rtld_exit() > calling fini function for /lib/libc.so.7 at 0x80071ae60 > "_exit" in "libc.so.7" =3D=3D> 0x8006cfff0 in "libc.so.7" > reloc_jmpslot: *0x8008471d8 =3D 0x8006cfff0 > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no Thanks, comments most appreciated. Damn, I was looking for someone to go "a ha, you can't do this because...." Alright, let me see why rtld on 6.1-amd64 is picking up /usr/lib32 stuff for a native 64-bit binary via debugging techniques. This seems very very wrong to me. I mean if /usr/lib is in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH and it comes before /usr/lib the /usr/lib32 *should* be innocuous, right? Feel free to use that last statement on my epitaph! :D -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 02:10:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78111065670 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64608FC1A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so590463rvf.43 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:10:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=l+QcWZdOnhI+DWem+pykPzisXowHsouuP3b7HJJRpws=; b=NWkvNYPq9uvnzG8V4fpDuCsIU1T64h0ZbZPGjHo3QBv+C1zymfnnnh8At+pU7ET+Wg +xflOGs8UiS3MCB8ekFdT22qzKZZ1aHltwoDy8E7XA2doBXviikgKFdHrD+EbLie7L+n iJj+S8ydC+9q+Rxbj7TIksl3dK2Uo7EkddtCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I3k1Y3m+yFBr+RDrvEqfYEKOc71NZkzlVZuBALakCAug36cSOkB3fzb7yQzwvG+B4w E3NKRYMLlFIuAV/awhqmQI0gPcXRS3l1MxUDjjFpL+YAWDdgnp5ewZ4QuF6XBie26912 upAHARC7qrKSMZe8S4bL4bnS7NtukMzOuPvJQ= Received: by 10.140.139.3 with SMTP id m3mr828088rvd.44.1224814242116; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810231910u59f97cecg8b01f391a9b353f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:10:42 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=" In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:10:43 -0000 Alright, well I found some weirdness: [root@hagen ~]# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 [root@hagen ~]# LD_DEBUG=1 ls /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is initialized, base address = 0x800506000 RTLD dynamic = 0x80062ad78 RTLD pltgot = 0x0 processing main program's program header Filling in DT_DEBUG entry lm_init("(null)") loading LD_PRELOAD libraries loading needed objects Searching for "libutil.so.5" Trying "/usr/bin/libutil.so.5" Trying "/usr/lib/libutil.so.5" Trying "/usr/lib32/libutil.so.5" loading "/usr/lib32/libutil.so.5" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib32/libutil.so.5: unsupported file layout That's because libutil.so.5 does not exist in /usr/lib only in /lib. The /usr/lib directory has: [root@hagen ~]# ls -l /usr/lib/libutil* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 100518 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib/libutil.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 17 Sep 11 11:44 /usr/lib/libutil.so -> /lib/libutil.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 103846 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib/libutil_p.a So rtld is looking for major number 5 of libutil, without the standard /lib in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH it searches /usr/lib, doesn't find it but: [root@hagen ~]# ls -l /usr/lib32/libutil* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 65274 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib32/libutil.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Sep 11 11:45 /usr/lib32/libutil.so -> libutil.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 46872 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib32/libutil.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 66918 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib32/libutil_p.a And whalah, I'm broke since there is a libutil.so.5 in there. So my question to anyone out there, WHY does /usr/lib32 contain major numbers but /usr/lib does not? This seems like a bug to me (FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is the same) or at least a dubious design decision. Thanks! -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 02:31:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA926106569A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D078FC1E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so597957rvf.43 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:31:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5Z1PDB75nctmP/Wk6mjmQ56TY4BzeuAJ8fxl/My/hJw=; b=ayl2eley3aLGgrYQ5Fo6kPZd7P7qwJ6uONUz1+zXHLuPX6Gy7z2Ee/RDnT8M7iTIAv PKLadv33RRb8unhL0acfYbr8v56pWtQC1z637iIbuPiO7HnzloU8iXmU8yoYxjKglBsW di0/xaP63arjq0vziKOItQKZ8eN52hGHCtWTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZEqOz+fIycrX9rt/jVPmd4H/gyys5ZC/AtezlMvTDSJ/6mqeKzbESrSCS36XX1eBlS XeZl8PUGm+P4iBKzQPIit4nr6Dxi8z2/IdfMdwCHBKWfqFYJPSDs4k8/TM+1HeJfY1Ab D0wN0cy6p/EC7nUPgksQueBBKcSjx2pdDVDqM= Received: by 10.141.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr834288rvj.66.1224815500641; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810231931p2acbf426m7f1b94b73b466e5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:31:40 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "Alexander Kabaev" In-Reply-To: <20081023220949.7f304bbb@kan.dnsalias.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> <20081023220949.7f304bbb@kan.dnsalias.net> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:31:42 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:48:47 -0400 > "Alexander Sack" wrote: > >> Thanks, comments most appreciated. Damn, I was looking for someone to >> go "a ha, you can't do this because...." Alright, let me see why rtld >> on 6.1-amd64 is picking up /usr/lib32 stuff for a native 64-bit binary >> via debugging techniques. This seems very very wrong to me. I mean if >> /usr/lib is in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH and it comes before /usr/lib the >> /usr/lib32 *should* be innocuous, right? >> >> Feel free to use that last statement on my epitaph! :D >> > LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for native 64bit rtld. If you want a specific path > added for use by 32-bit ld-elf.so.1 only, use LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH. > > Said that, your problem is likely caused by the fact that there is > no /lib32, only /usr/lib32. So if 64-bit library lives in /lib, > your LD_LIBRARY_PATH will cause loader to find its 32-bit equivalent > in /usr/lib32 first. > > Try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 for better > results. Yes I figured that out on my own but my question still exists, why isn't /usr/lib similar in format to /usr/lib32 though with respect to major numbers? Actually now that I re-read your paragraph I suppose this isn't such a bad idea but for some reason I believe that if you have /usr/lib before /usr/lib32 it should *just* work. -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 02:35:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730EB106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F7B8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so229700ywe.13 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:35:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=sUrlXDL3Tg1S1uwk5aD4DSEXKbqXPHzwn/hKfylmZ2k=; b=gBBmjM4KEw+H6YZHj1YQDR8zQHtJx8Mhgx99WMJRLvLkSoill6+Z+ynnQpZBU0ij4D BqEfqUK5ytVCbD+GZDnWq7G2FcMDJQXHK2FbsHNPs1mZkAZlImsMvYEin4E/jyYGWHMk X9V5Dx6q7sTMykA4UqNAKW3AehWI8qrL3P4GE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=PXayllkePVi/Ev9+07C32jHX3BPltPvegHRQkIiLQFMutndZKyM55cJBFcyj58cqG+ jCohFLYjywmBaIN5EBCc8x6HFKIHIH162+NfHwznOzk6/raNoPiny4vyRshrBxvCbW8H Mo8Gq5lQJ3LdTOXXMd7U+DEF25+Fbk32jGugQ= Received: by 10.100.225.19 with SMTP id x19mr1696689ang.122.1224814195034; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kan.dnsalias.net (c-24-62-106-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.62.106.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm16109651wrh.28.2008.10.23.19.09.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:09:49 -0400 From: Alexander Kabaev To: "Alexander Sack" Message-ID: <20081023220949.7f304bbb@kan.dnsalias.net> In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/EFRs6CU3QFz3aSwJJ.mTct7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:35:37 -0000 --Sig_/EFRs6CU3QFz3aSwJJ.mTct7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:48:47 -0400 "Alexander Sack" wrote: > Thanks, comments most appreciated. Damn, I was looking for someone to > go "a ha, you can't do this because...." Alright, let me see why rtld > on 6.1-amd64 is picking up /usr/lib32 stuff for a native 64-bit binary > via debugging techniques. This seems very very wrong to me. I mean if > /usr/lib is in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH and it comes before /usr/lib the > /usr/lib32 *should* be innocuous, right? >=20 > Feel free to use that last statement on my epitaph! :D >=20 LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for native 64bit rtld. If you want a specific path added for use by 32-bit ld-elf.so.1 only, use LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH. Said that, your problem is likely caused by the fact that there is no /lib32, only /usr/lib32. So if 64-bit library lives in /lib, your LD_LIBRARY_PATH will cause loader to find its 32-bit equivalent in /usr/lib32 first. Try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 for better results. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/EFRs6CU3QFz3aSwJJ.mTct7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFJAS5tQ6z1jMm+XZYRArJFAKCLkEhe+8rvhDJNde+5gEWQ9C69HACgrAb5 H58IX88GLZ5wBNRljWD/XEQ= =zTke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/EFRs6CU3QFz3aSwJJ.mTct7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 02:50:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55B5106567F for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537A78FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so16380wra.27 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:50:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=Dzx903sh9SEh1L93ZF9Sc9r/9bELI34AcVRM/RAbnzU=; b=HTFVkwYtveOlLNN30hSDs3+f9y8jqTobhJuVdBS4UQX+RJsFf5Gx2Sfl6HnG+S6dbb hN4OijztsN2xW4H5LGIJoJigetYztWQlrXzF7d1q5bRCMA0YvXfIlL4TCeK9cb8j4T7T Ui3+smXl3E3WXlpudSMRhXdj10HO5A1TYH4jE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=M2jXKe+MSCMd1NvoybiZe29/RFCTUvBFuLO8EAlSbkg2ZzdvtTsPCWrnWgE3o7qPMt 7w2BDiEUE1vbvsiaaPmQ6UEeYY20rRwKZxTGDDV8pM8gFcaj1yRiOScvWO9xiM1rJ6ht 6qDjDx9ZEFG2ji6AYumSc4aSXdbT5/csH38cQ= Received: by 10.101.71.6 with SMTP id y6mr1747462ank.44.1224816651306; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kan.dnsalias.net (c-24-62-106-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.62.106.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm4758538anc.28.2008.10.23.19.50.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:50:42 -0400 From: Alexander Kabaev To: "Alexander Sack" Message-ID: <20081023225042.7cb581b0@kan.dnsalias.net> In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231931p2acbf426m7f1b94b73b466e5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> <20081023220949.7f304bbb@kan.dnsalias.net> <3c0b01820810231931p2acbf426m7f1b94b73b466e5d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/8LAXxRSnJzF5u=PxuO58Blc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:50:52 -0000 --Sig_/8LAXxRSnJzF5u=PxuO58Blc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:31:40 -0400 "Alexander Sack" wrote: >=20 > Yes I figured that out on my own but my question still exists, why > isn't /usr/lib similar in format to /usr/lib32 though with respect to > major numbers? Actually now that I re-read your paragraph I suppose > this isn't such a bad idea but for some reason I believe that if you > have /usr/lib before /usr/lib32 it should *just* work. >=20 The last statement is as wrong as it gets. I tried but I still fail to see the reason why you would possibly expect that to work reliably. By setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib:/usr/lib32, you cause dynamic linker to look for libraries in /usr/lib, usr/lib32 and /lib in that exact order, so if library in /usr/lib32 shadows one in /lib, it will be rightly picked up and you will get exactly what you asked for. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/8LAXxRSnJzF5u=PxuO58Blc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFJATgCQ6z1jMm+XZYRAokhAJ4lAr4wmCDtjPdrdLHYtQ8rzjQXVwCWMx6s O5I/QH8uAAihSw6pyt7hQQ== =WeV5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/8LAXxRSnJzF5u=PxuO58Blc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 03:03:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CD8106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neldredge@math.ucsd.edu) Received: from euclid.ucsd.edu (euclid.ucsd.edu [132.239.145.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1078FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neldredge@math.ucsd.edu) Received: from zeno.ucsd.edu (zeno.ucsd.edu [132.239.145.22]) by euclid.ucsd.edu (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m9O2n1611021; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (neldredg@localhost) by zeno.ucsd.edu (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m9O2n1o12185; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:49:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zeno.ucsd.edu: neldredg owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Eldredge X-X-Sender: neldredg@zeno.ucsd.edu To: Alexander Sack In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231910u59f97cecg8b01f391a9b353f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> <3c0b01820810231910u59f97cecg8b01f391a9b353f3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:03:35 -0000 On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Alexander Sack wrote: > Alright, well I found some weirdness: > > [root@hagen ~]# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 > [root@hagen ~]# LD_DEBUG=1 ls > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is initialized, base address = 0x800506000 > RTLD dynamic = 0x80062ad78 > RTLD pltgot = 0x0 > processing main program's program header > Filling in DT_DEBUG entry > lm_init("(null)") > loading LD_PRELOAD libraries > loading needed objects > Searching for "libutil.so.5" > Trying "/usr/bin/libutil.so.5" > Trying "/usr/lib/libutil.so.5" > Trying "/usr/lib32/libutil.so.5" > loading "/usr/lib32/libutil.so.5" > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib32/libutil.so.5: unsupported file layout > > That's because libutil.so.5 does not exist in /usr/lib only in /lib. > The /usr/lib directory has: > > [root@hagen ~]# ls -l /usr/lib/libutil* > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 100518 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib/libutil.a > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 17 Sep 11 11:44 /usr/lib/libutil.so -> > /lib/libutil.so.5 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 103846 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib/libutil_p.a > > So rtld is looking for major number 5 of libutil, without the standard > /lib in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH it searches /usr/lib, doesn't find it but: > > [root@hagen ~]# ls -l /usr/lib32/libutil* > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 65274 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib32/libutil.a > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Sep 11 11:45 /usr/lib32/libutil.so -> > libutil.so.5 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 46872 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib32/libutil.so.5 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 66918 Aug 21 2007 /usr/lib32/libutil_p.a > > And whalah, I'm broke since there is a libutil.so.5 in there. > > So my question to anyone out there, WHY does /usr/lib32 contain major > numbers but /usr/lib does not? This seems like a bug to me (FreeBSD > 7.0-RELEASE is the same) or at least a dubious design decision. I think the distinction is this. rtld is looking for libutil.so.5 (with version number). This file has to be in /lib, in the root filesystem, so that programs can run before /usr is mounted. libutil.so on the other hand is not searched for by rtld, but by ld (driven by cc), when the program is built. /usr/lib is the traditional place for it to search; I'm not sure if it searches /lib at all. In the case of static libraries, /usr/lib is certainly the right place for libutil.a to go, so having libutil.so there makes sense in my mind. I think your best bet is to dig into whatever is setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH and get it set correctly. Remove /usr/lib32 or at least ensure that /lib is searched first. Trying to change rtld's behavior is not the right approach, IMHO. -- Nate Eldredge neldredge@math.ucsd.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 03:03:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C67B1065684 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391908FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9O33uSs046835 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:03:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9O33tdm046833; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:03:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:03:54 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Alexander Sack Message-ID: <20081024030354.GA41283@dan.emsphone.com> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <86hc72x0nx.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86d4hqwzur.fsf@ds4.des.no> <3c0b01820810231848r3e3e297cl3dc9bf1d0edcd588@mail.gmail.com> <20081023220949.7f304bbb@kan.dnsalias.net> <3c0b01820810231931p2acbf426m7f1b94b73b466e5d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231931p2acbf426m7f1b94b73b466e5d@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Alexander Kabaev , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:03:59 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 23), Alexander Sack said: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for native 64bit rtld. If you want a specific > > path added for use by 32-bit ld-elf.so.1 only, use > > LD_32_LIBRARY_PATH. > > > > Said that, your problem is likely caused by the fact that there is > > no /lib32, only /usr/lib32. So if 64-bit library lives in /lib, > > your LD_LIBRARY_PATH will cause loader to find its 32-bit > > equivalent in /usr/lib32 first. > > > > Try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib32:/usr/lib64 for better > > results. > > Yes I figured that out on my own but my question still exists, why > isn't /usr/lib similar in format to /usr/lib32 though with respect to > major numbers? Ever since the switch from static to dynamic-linked /bin and /sbin, some shared libraries are needed during the boot process. Those libraries live in /lib, and since there are no 32-bit binaries required to boot a 64-bit system, there is no need for a /lib32. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 04:25:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CD4106567E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E948FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D0F1EE86C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:24:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.405 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.405 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.764, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5sOS9QAvuN5H for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:24:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39B01EE878 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:24:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:24:56 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:25:01 -0000 I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as I've done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2. Everything went as it should, but my system still says 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my stable-supfile I have "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7". Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to BETA-2? Thank you /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 04:27:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03731065684 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DBB8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WQeJ1a00E17dt5G56USrXx; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:26:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WUTB1a0022P6wsM3ZUTBdg; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:27:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=w2o1NKxshxS1MDpW5XEA:9 a=12IZuJhZe7xTwAV7NEeb9RJRphYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E8BF4C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:27:10 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> References: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:27:13 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:24:56AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as I've > done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2. Everything went as it > should, but my system still says 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my stable-supfile I > have "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7". > > Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to BETA-2? You are essentially running BETA2, with even newer fixes since the BETA2 release. You should stay with the RELENG_7 tag. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 04:41:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6890A1065674 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0620B8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFD31EE88C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:41:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.405 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.405 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.764, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MNvZiTPJSAX7; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7902C1EE935; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:41:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <490151E1.6090909@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:41:05 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:41:12 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick skrev: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:24:56AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as I've >> done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2. Everything went as it >> should, but my system still says 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my stable-supfile I >> have "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7". >> >> Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to BETA-2? > > You are essentially running BETA2, with even newer fixes since the BETA2 > release. You should stay with the RELENG_7 tag. > Thanks Jeremy I thought that the uname tag would change to "BETA-2" /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 04:51:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A173B1065671 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699608FC25 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMFAEPuAEm9pTkh/2dsb2JhbACBdr9Ug04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,474,1220245200"; d="scan'208";a="139778931" Received: from nlpiport03.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.111]) by nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2008 23:42:35 -0500 Received: from dsl-189-165-57-33.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.mx) ([189.165.57.33]) by nlpiport03.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 23 Oct 2008 23:42:31 -0500 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:42:41 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <101620082036.391.48F7A5DA0009DFCD0000018722120207849C05020E089F060E@comcast.net> <20081016212000.GA3960@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081016212000.GA3960@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810232142.41941.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> Subject: Re: Printing to a Lanier LD160c does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:51:09 -0000 El Jue 16 Oct 2008, Jeremy Chadwick escribi=F3: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 08:36:42PM +0000, ajphanks@comcast.net wrote: > > I am trying to setup a Lanier LD160c (admincolor) that has a network > > interface. =A0I am new to FreeBSD and tried to follow the handbook. =A0= I am > > able to print to a HP 5SI (corp-admin) with no problems. =A0There are no > > errors in the lpd-errs and the file is drained from the queue, but the > > printer does not print anything. =A0And this is a working printer to > > Windows. lpr -P admincolor testfile.txt > > > > printcap: > > corp-admin|hp|laserjet|Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5Si:\ > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :lp=3D\ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/corp-admin:rm=3Dcorp-admin:\ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :if=3D/usr/local/libexec/crlfilter:sh:tr=3D\f:mx#0: > > > > admincolor|hp|laserjet|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\ > > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :lp=3D\ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/admincolor:rm=3Dadmincolor:\ > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: > > If this printer is hooked up on the network (e.g. via Ethernet), I > believe you need to set the lp variable to the hostname or IP address of > the printer, e.g.: > > admincolor|hp|laserjet|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\ > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0:lp=3D192.168.1.100\ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0:sd=3D/var/spool/output/admincolor:rm=3Dadmincolor:\ > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: > Negative, leave the lp capability blank, explicitly (:lp=3D:). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-advanced= =2Ehtml#PRINTING-ADVANCED-NETWORK-RM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 05:07:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5431065675 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from green_tiger@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FD38FC1A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from green_tiger@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WS4f1a02j0EPchoA3UxQMp; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:57:24 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([69.250.45.68]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WUxM1a0071UFfxx8MUxP1e; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:57:23 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=If9CG6DOrzXHxmutBsIA:9 a=7Ko1XKkHAWMBNWRJaIQA:7 a=S0n6b9wqgeuoxOj9HMLSB9Zn0wUA:4 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=CxxBEWHeI7sA:10 Message-ID: <490155B1.5050502@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:57:21 -0400 From: "John L. Templer" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081004) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> <49001B2D.4090706@comcast.net> <20081023095257.f05a1d95.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081023095257.f05a1d95.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:07:26 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:35:25 -0400, "John L. Templer" wrote: >> Polytropon wrote: >>> % dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 >> Very cool! I have a few questions though. I notice this doesn't work >> for my Plextor CD writer. > > What, dd doesn't work from Plextor writer? I had (or, still have) > a Plextor CD writer which is SCSI, so I just have to change the > command in order to read from the correct device, which is /dev/cd0 > for the first SCSI CD drive: > > % dd if=/dev/cd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352 > > Of course, you would have to change other commands in order to get > this correct, for example: > > % cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0 info > > > >> I assume this is because CD and DVD drives >> have different drivers? > > Maybe, but I think these basic things rely on the same commands > internally. > > > >> Also, does this use libparanoia or something >> similar to extract "recalcitrant" tracks? > > No, dd reads block-wise. There's dd_rescue which is able to read > from defectively manufactured media (we call them "Un-CDs" or > "Un-DVDs" in Germany). > > Another option, by the way, is to use cdrdao. It has the read > command in combination with a paranoia level switch which can be > adjusted in order to read mentioned media. As far as I remember, > you need to have the atapicam facility in your kernel (custom > compile kernel or module) in order to access ATAPI devices just > like SCSI devices. > > % camcontrol devlist > > will then show you which device equals /dev/cd0, e. g. 0,0,0 > (1st SCSI controller, 1st device, 1st LUN). > > > > If I did misunderstand the question, just post another one. :-) > (English is not my native language.) Actually, I was referring to having individual device files for each track on the CD. When I put an audio CD in the Plexwriter CD writer, it doesn't create the device files for the tracks. However when I put it in the DVD reader it does create acd0t01 through acd0t11, or however many tracks are on the CD. My Plexwriter is SCSI, but the DVD drives are IDE. Under Solaris x86 or Ubuntu Linux I have to use an application like cdrecord or soundjuicer to extract the audio tracks. These applications bypass the device files and go straight to the SCSI interface layer. libparanoia is a library that handles the tricky bits of reading the data off the CD. Just using dd to copy the data from the device file often results in corrupted data. I was wondering if the BSD kernel (or devd or whatever) uses a similar method of handling all the different variations that audio format CDs have. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 05:23:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C35106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EBB8FC26 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WTMJ1a01X0vyq2s59VNzkh; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:22:59 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WVNy1a0012P6wsM3RVNydy; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:22:59 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=10SHvqaCvoUA:10 a=svVtg53j9BwA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=Wjpxc-p6y18TbxriMgAA:9 a=lXPRfchNUs_K9wWZIjUA:7 a=vDZ2cwmha0EA5SnGAEbfOrkUsk8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DCF67C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:22:57 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez Message-ID: <20081024052257.GA5231@icarus.home.lan> References: <101620082036.391.48F7A5DA0009DFCD0000018722120207849C05020E089F060E@comcast.net> <20081016212000.GA3960@icarus.home.lan> <200810232142.41941.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200810232142.41941.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing to a Lanier LD160c does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:23:00 -0000 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:42:41PM -0700, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: > El Jue 16 Oct 2008, Jeremy Chadwick escribió: > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 08:36:42PM +0000, ajphanks@comcast.net wrote: > > > I am trying to setup a Lanier LD160c (admincolor) that has a network > > > interface.  I am new to FreeBSD and tried to follow the handbook.  I am > > > able to print to a HP 5SI (corp-admin) with no problems.  There are no > > > errors in the lpd-errs and the file is drained from the queue, but the > > > printer does not print anything.  And this is a working printer to > > > Windows. lpr -P admincolor testfile.txt > > > > > > printcap: > > > corp-admin|hp|laserjet|Hewlett Packard LaserJet 5Si:\ > > > > > >         :lp=\ > > >         :sd=/var/spool/output/corp-admin:rm=corp-admin:\ > > >         :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > >         :if=/usr/local/libexec/crlfilter:sh:tr=\f:mx#0: > > > > > > admincolor|hp|laserjet|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\ > > > > > >         :lp=\ > > >         :sd=/var/spool/output/admincolor:rm=admincolor:\ > > >         :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: > > > > If this printer is hooked up on the network (e.g. via Ethernet), I > > believe you need to set the lp variable to the hostname or IP address of > > the printer, e.g.: > > > > admincolor|hp|laserjet|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\ > > > >       :lp=192.168.1.100\ > >       :sd=/var/spool/output/admincolor:rm=admincolor:\ > >       :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: > > > > Negative, leave the lp capability blank, explicitly (:lp=:). > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-advanced.html#PRINTING-ADVANCED-NETWORK-RM Then the printcap(5) man page should reflect this; the existing explanations for both fields are painfully terse. lp str /dev/lp device name to open for output, or port@machine to open a TCP socket rm str NULL machine name for remote printer I can file a PR (to doc) on this if recommended. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 05:30:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C41F106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AF78FC20 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WCzi1a0040mlR8UA9VWmpD; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:30:46 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WVWl1a0022P6wsM8XVWlRs; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:30:46 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=LmO63_hY2J9H8N-sTq4A:9 a=PAbSQZUA-hIzuLy11Y4A:7 a=Ul-Q2uOYAV96PAYAZ31ILX8X1OcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B003C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:30:44 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20081024053044.GB5231@icarus.home.lan> References: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> <490151E1.6090909@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490151E1.6090909@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:30:47 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:41:05AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick skrev: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:24:56AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as I've >>> done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2. Everything went as >>> it should, but my system still says 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my >>> stable-supfile I have "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7". >>> >>> Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to BETA-2? >> >> You are essentially running BETA2, with even newer fixes since the BETA2 >> release. You should stay with the RELENG_7 tag. >> > Thanks Jeremy > I thought that the uname tag would change to "BETA-2" I sincerely do not know where "BETA2" (not "BETA-2") comes from. It's not defined anywhere in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh in CVS: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh To me, this means someone is hand-hacking the file before making ISO releases. The problem with this is there's no way to correlate what CVS tag said string is based on; I have to assume it's RELENG_7. CC'ing Ken, who can probably explain where "BETA2" comes from, since I believe he's the one who makes the builds. I really wish we'd name our not-yet-RELEASE-or-STABLE ISO releases as FreeBSD x.y-PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD, which would make more sense to users. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 05:52:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6247F106567C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE3F8FC0A; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260371EE990; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:52:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.404 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.404 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.765, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ub6E9ko1bvKQ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:52:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03DF1EEA0C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:52:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4901628B.8040603@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:52:11 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> <490151E1.6090909@eskk.nu> <20081024053044.GB5231@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081024053044.GB5231@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:52:17 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick skrev: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:41:05AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> Jeremy Chadwick skrev: >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:24:56AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>>> I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as I've >>>> done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2. Everything went as >>>> it should, but my system still says 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my >>>> stable-supfile I have "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7". >>>> >>>> Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to BETA-2? >>> You are essentially running BETA2, with even newer fixes since the BETA2 >>> release. You should stay with the RELENG_7 tag. >>> >> Thanks Jeremy >> I thought that the uname tag would change to "BETA-2" > > I sincerely do not know where "BETA2" (not "BETA-2") comes from. It's > not defined anywhere in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh in CVS: I got it from here http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-October/046037.html /Leslie > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh > > To me, this means someone is hand-hacking the file before making ISO > releases. The problem with this is there's no way to correlate what CVS > tag said string is based on; I have to assume it's RELENG_7. > > CC'ing Ken, who can probably explain where "BETA2" comes from, since I > believe he's the one who makes the builds. > > > I really wish we'd name our not-yet-RELEASE-or-STABLE ISO releases as > FreeBSD x.y-PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD, which would make more sense to users. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 06:35:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96487106567A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0458FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WW9m1a0050cQ2SLA1WbQtQ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:35:24 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WWbN1a0042P6wsM8WWbPos; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:35:23 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=_4wSCJZfYYKwJrRPVDsA:9 a=qO-0nEOH2opFThOiZWEA:7 a=9thnTLvkSXXDr6DIXjt1liRHExgA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87C77C9432; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:35:22 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Leslie Jensen Message-ID: <20081024063522.GA6441@icarus.home.lan> References: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> <490151E1.6090909@eskk.nu> <20081024053044.GB5231@icarus.home.lan> <4901628B.8040603@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4901628B.8040603@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Ken Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:35:24 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:52:11AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > Jeremy Chadwick skrev: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:41:05AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>> Jeremy Chadwick skrev: >>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:24:56AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >>>>> I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as >>>>> I've done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2. >>>>> Everything went as it should, but my system still says >>>>> 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my stable-supfile I have "*default >>>>> release=cvs tag=RELENG_7". >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to BETA-2? >>>> You are essentially running BETA2, with even newer fixes since the BETA2 >>>> release. You should stay with the RELENG_7 tag. >>>> >>> Thanks Jeremy >>> I thought that the uname tag would change to "BETA-2" >> >> I sincerely do not know where "BETA2" (not "BETA-2") comes from. It's >> not defined anywhere in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh in CVS: > > I got it from here > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-October/046037.html > /Leslie You've misunderstood what I said. :-) I want to know where the "BETA2" string actually came **from**, meaning who or what idealised it and why. It is not a CVS tag, and it's not referred to anywhere other than the "here's the ISOs" mails that come from Ken. The problem is that this string generates confusion; you are not the first person who has gotten confused by this (downloading version labelled with XYZ and upon building world/kernel, seeing version ABC, inducing an Email to a mailing list asking "I downloaded XYZ, but I'm seeing string ABC. Where is the tag for XYZ? I want to follow it", only to be told "XYZ is actually PRERELEASE"). In essence what I'm saying is we're inconsistent with the strings we use for distributions of FreeBSD. Users **barely** understand the difference between -STABLE and -RELEASE, and only a select few understand the difference between CVS tags RELENG_x and RELENG_x_y. For distributions that are not STABLE or RELEASE, we need to stick with a single string, and that string (IMHO) should be PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD (to signify the build date). >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh >> >> To me, this means someone is hand-hacking the file before making ISO >> releases. The problem with this is there's no way to correlate what CVS >> tag said string is based on; I have to assume it's RELENG_7. >> >> CC'ing Ken, who can probably explain where "BETA2" comes from, since I >> believe he's the one who makes the builds. >> >> >> I really wish we'd name our not-yet-RELEASE-or-STABLE ISO releases as >> FreeBSD x.y-PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD, which would make more sense to users. >> -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 06:59:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24B510656A1 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3308FC24 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai44ABMPAUm9pTkhPGdsb2JhbACBdpF3AQEBATUBrVuDUA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,476,1220245200"; d="scan'208";a="139787728" Received: from nlpiport05.prodigy.net.mx (HELO nlpiport19.prodigy.net.mx) ([148.235.52.84]) by nlpiport17.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 24 Oct 2008 01:58:56 -0500 Received: from dsl-189-165-57-33.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.mx) ([189.165.57.33]) by nlpiport19.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 24 Oct 2008 01:58:56 -0500 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:59:08 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <101620082036.391.48F7A5DA0009DFCD0000018722120207849C05020E089F060E@comcast.net> <200810232142.41941.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> <20081024052257.GA5231@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081024052257.GA5231@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810232359.08739.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> Subject: Re: Printing to a Lanier LD160c does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:59:10 -0000 El Jue 23 Oct 2008, Jeremy Chadwick escribi=F3: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 09:42:41PM -0700, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanche= z=20 wrote: > > El Jue 16 Oct 2008, Jeremy Chadwick escribi=F3: > > > > > > If this printer is hooked up on the network (e.g. via Ethernet), I > > > believe you need to set the lp variable to the hostname or IP address > > > of the printer, e.g.: > > > > > > admincolor|hp|laserjet|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\ > > > > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0:lp=3D192.168.1.100\ > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0:sd=3D/var/spool/output/admincolor:rm=3Dadmincolor:\ > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0:lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: > > > > Negative, leave the lp capability blank, explicitly (:lp=3D:). > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-adva= nc > >ed.html#PRINTING-ADVANCED-NETWORK-RM > > Then the printcap(5) man page should reflect this; the existing > explanations for both fields are painfully terse. > > lp str /dev/lp device name to open for > output, or port@machine to > open a TCP socket > rm str NULL machine name for remote > printer > > I can file a PR (to doc) on this if recommended. if you are printing to a remote LPD system, you should use: :lp=3D:\ :rm=3Dhostname-or-ip:\ :rp=3Dprinter-name:\ If you use lp=3Dport@machine, then you should not use rp and rm, but in the= port=20 of the machine should be a program that undestand LPD/LPR protocol. The printcap(5) man page has a section "REMOTE PRINTING". maps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 08:00:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44177106567B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FC58FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D2AF800284 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:00:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [84.161.64.131] (helo=[192.168.6.129]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KtHb2-0007Ns-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:00:37 +0200 Message-ID: <49019CC3.5090302@web.de> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:00:35 +0200 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080930) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48FEDE0E.8070909@web.de> <48FF2FDF.6000102@coder.cl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Rw8EF6f63ItYMaHtQCKBDV+RGDYdgoSv/X5vw i7UnXOq8faBKdGmSUwwpwC+MtrNHg2mpe7sCr0d7pf4pJkLEer T3Uh0nuaY= Subject: Re: calendar software wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:00:39 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: >I currently use webcalendar (with apache, php, postgresql) for my calendar. I heard about solutions like that, maybe i implement something for my family too. Thank you guys for the hints, i'll happily test them and see if something fits my "needs" :-) Best regards, marco Andrew Gould wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: > > >> Marco escribió: >> >> >>> hello list, >>> >>> anybody has experience with calendar software which runs on freebsd. i >>> maybe would integrate it also in thunderbird/mutt,but thats not >>> necessary, or use a stand alone software. >>> minimum requirements to the software would be making entries, getting >>> alarms for appointments. >>> >>> >> Try kontact (the kdepim port). Have fun xD >> >> >> >>> thank you for responses, >>> marco >>> >>> >> Regards, >> >> > > Before I moved from my PalmPilot III (still works) to an iPhone (not 3G), I > used JPilot for my PIM and Sylpheed-Claws (the name has changed?) for > email. This was a good setup because there was a plugin that allowed > Sylpheed-Claws to access the JPilot addressbook. > > I currently use webcalendar (with apache, php, postgresql) for my calendar. > This is overkill for an individual; but has many advantages for family > scheduling: I can add an item to my wife's calendar with an email > reminder. Since my wife has a blackberry email address, the message will > get pushed to her phone. When testing this feature, I would suggest > starting with something like a dinner invitation rather than a grocery list. > ;-) > > Have fun, > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 08:04:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0201065673 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BDF8FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9O3RllF019318; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:27:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20081023222417.02517ec0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:27:40 -0500 To: Juan Ortega , questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <200810231248.47349.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> References: <200810231248.47349.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081023-0, 10/23/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94-exp/8482/Thu Oct 23 18:04:09 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m9O3RllF019318 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Shutting down help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:04:17 -0000 At 02:48 PM 10/23/2008, Juan Ortega wrote: >I'm using FreeBSD amd64 8-0-Current > >I set up window maker to start by "startx" command, >but when I exit the window maker the screen just turns >black nothing works so I'm force to unplug the power each >time. This happens "sometimes" other times the terminal >shows up and I can shutdown manually. Since I'm using >a snapshot version of FreeBSD is this a bug? > >I'm not sure what logs to copy and paste here for more information. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. Use: ctrl+alt+backspace to kill your x server. I suspect you have the wrong program starting in your startx. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 08:42:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B3C106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C008FC1E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9O8gjx6052966; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:42:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:42:44 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Gonzalo Nemmi In-Reply-To: <20081024063536.AF95410656D1@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20081024175914.D4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081024063536.AF95410656D1@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: <20081024185224.T4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man -t odd page size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:42:48 -0000 Gonzalo, please cc those to whom you are responding. I had to dig this out of the digest, which breaks the threading .. On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:35:36 -0200 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: [..] > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:35:25 -0200 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: [..] > > > > Does an inmensily huge majority have to walk the extra mile in order > > > > to > > > > > > get an > > > > > > > ISO compliant document whereas a small minority benefits from having > > > > non > > > > > > ISO > > > > > > > complaint default formats??? Gmail does a superb job of formatting quotes, eh? > > > Gonzalo: shouldn't that be 'the extra kilometre?' :) > > > > > > Well, a quarter of the people on this planet live in China, so by your > > > theory shouldn't the FreeBSD lists, docs and code all be in Chinese? > > No .. languages are not ISO standards... let alone the fact that we are not > discussing languages in here. ISO is just another committee. I think what you're really complaining about is that the US tends to ignore international standards. We know that, it's more about politics .. also not being discussed in here :) > > > I doubt an 'immensely huge majority' of FreeBSD systems are located > > > outside the US (data at http://www.bsdstats.org/freebsd/countries.php > > > notwithstanding, reckoning Australia to have the most FreeBSD users :) > > That's only if you take bsdstats as the ultimate and most authoritative word > on the location of FreeBSD based systems. I do not. And actually Im running 3 > FreeBSD systems in my place and Argentina doesn't even figure on that list. My point exactly! So where do you get your assumption that the majority of FreeBSD systems, let alone an 'immensely huge' majority, are located outside the US? I don't say the opposite, just that it's unproveable. > > > > > > and on a side note: will we ever get to see ISO 216 A4 as the > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > > choice for output instead of not-standard, only usefull in the US > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > useless in the rest of the whole world "letter" page size and the > > > > > > likes??? > > > > > > I've yet to run into any printing or display software that didn't offer > > > a wide choice of formats, including A4 and many other A* sizes, so what > > > any particular software chooses as its 'default' scarcely matters. > > To you .. but not for me or for anyone who lives in a country in which > non-iso-standard paper (like letter) is simply _not_available_ or costs twice > as much as A4. Australia went metric in the mid '70s, and I don't know where I could find letter-size paper if I wanted any, which I don't. Nor do I find it any great inconvenience to select A4 for printing. Storm in a teacup? > I undertand this may not be a problem for someone who can just "man -t man | > ps2pdf14 - > man_getopt" and get a printable pdf that uses the whole page but > I have to go "zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | > ps2pdf - tmp.pdf" in order to get a usefull output or use the first method > and waste a lot of paper (wasting resources .. wich is something the, we, > citizens of the third world can not afford). Oh please. I wouldn't try remembering either of those incantations, and any process complicated enough to require looking up in the man/s goes into a one or two-line script here. I can't afford wasted time either. > > > > > Greetings from Germany, where A4 is the standard for more than > > > > > a century now. =^_^= > > > > > > > > I really hope they do, or at least, start contemplating the fact that > > > > > > ISO > > > > > > > standards are usefull as a whole or are not usefull at all .. > > > > > > That's not true at all; there's no 'all or nothing' about standards. > > > What actually works and is adopted in the real world determines that. > > ISO 216 works (and it has worked ever since it's conception, more than 100 > years ago) and is adopted in the real world, except for the US, Mexico and > Canada. > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html Sure. We use it here. But I don't see much point in complaining about those who use something else. We drive on the left side of the road too and would still do so should ISO publish a 'standard' to the contrary :) [For North American readers, there's a list of A4 vendors on that page] > > > Ask yourself: how come the world uses TCP/IP for internet communications > > > rather than the OSI X.200-X.219 suite? How come we're still using SMTP > > > plus a pile of RFCs to deliver email rather than the X.400-X.420 suite? > > It became a defacto standard ... Just as much as Microsoft Windows did .. Are > by any chance using Windows????? No, and it's 'reductio ad absurdum' to mention Windows in this context. If you'd actually read much of the OSI stuff - assuming you had a spare year or two - you'd know that TCP/IP became the standard because a) it was working long before the ISO stuff was even being formally tested or the various plenary conferences had near finished arguing all the finer points and b) the standards processes via the IETF, IANA, IEEE and the like (RFCs) were far more accessible and most importantly free for the likes of you and me to participate in their development, quite unlike the rarified CCITT/ITU/ISO academic hierarchical processes (IMHO!) > > > Apart from SNMP and its use of (a subset of) the ASN.1 / BER notation, > > > and the X.500-X.521 directory services model to the extent of X.501 > > > certificates, not much of the massive CCITT / OSI / ISO 'standards' have > > > ever entered common usage, most being a camel designed by committee. > > > > > > In '91 I bought three 'fascicles' (volumes) of the CCITT Blue Book for > > > the best part of A$500, then convinced it was the way things would go. > > > I was entirely wrong :) but I don't regret that study for ASN.1 alone. > > Sorry to hear that :( ASN.1 and the BER are actually very clever stuff, intellectually, though the need for finely packing everything in binary became less relevant in many spheres as computing horsepower rendered turning back to plain text encoding much less of an impediment. I recall that in '91 my 14400bps V.32bis modem suitable for international data transfer cost just under A$2000, the price then of a fairly decent used car. How times change .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 08:43:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F8A1065673; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53378FC20; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9O8h5uh021616; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9O8h4J2021613; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Alexander Sack In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:43:14 -0000 > 6.1-RELEASE-amd64 machine. If I add /usr/lib32 to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH > it breaks all of my binaries on my 64-bit machine. what do you expect else? this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it can't work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 09:44:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00591065672 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4078FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5D316C8A5 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B8D916C7D2 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 21908 invoked by uid 88); 24 Oct 2008 11:41:21 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:41:21 +0200 Message-ID: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:43:32 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: Subject: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:44:17 -0000 Hi, I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the client, but since I seem to get troubles with two different clients, I'm thinking it might be the server: I've got a FreeBSD 7.0-p4 machine running isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2 serving my home network. When my Linux (Archlinux) client request a lease, this happens: [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting eth0: broadcasting for a lease eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' eth0: checking 10.0.0.176 is available on attached networks ... and then it times out, and does not configure the network. This makes me think that there may be a client issue, since the DCHP server does indeed offer an address. But I also have troubles with a Mac OS X client (although it's a little more vague about the errors). Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:06:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1327C106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9694A8FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so832610fgb.35 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:06:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=c5ab1HqArWuHj4GrZI8/6bhzOKQakuEhkQxo6ZpmMY8=; b=c4b8SKmVZBUIwaSMX62q3gpBfoxmftpr2qBsPIui7Sp3c6Y+jbwkcz/tIQ17D1rX5T 03k/d2tMMNQIMYC2ziHtHYtYlt+xXg47KdH8YkiUqK5/18y9ZV69cLKSi5pNl9h/st6z c9hismz4SMFzDwo941XdkSdET29SpOPE78FZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=KS8OcR9kUcg+mqLHOamCPGQUQhhNunZHnUmP3nWFiSW08hF5Lj8HIS8y9IA3i4EvH0 MJto9QUaqjwgBDKH3k2MtbFQcYlIKLH1SYV6Gi8D1escAnKTptUbjBbDsPJih/OuEknT cGbs6WfElbz+zVMPEuUi9N9MDH9diP/yXWXEw= Received: by 10.187.243.3 with SMTP id v3mr85384far.100.1224842761630; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ad871310810240306l16ec8e04p176abac05c5e0cc8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:06:01 -0400 From: "Glen Barber" To: "Juan Ortega" In-Reply-To: <200810232139.07798.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810212242.46534.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> <4ad871310810231741h1d300b29q1046d3643af35139@mail.gmail.com> <200810232139.07798.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Trouble Shutting down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:06:04 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Juan Ortega wrote: > On Thursday 23 October 2008 17:41:40 you wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Juan Ortega > wrote: >> > I'm using FreeBSD amd64 8-0-Current >> > >> > I set up window maker to start by "startx" command, >> > but when I exit the window maker the screen just turns >> > black nothing works so I'm force to unplug the power each >> > time. This happens "sometimes" other times the terminal >> > shows up and I can shutdown manually. Since I'm using >> > a snapshot version of FreeBSD is this a bug? >> > >> > I'm not sure what logs to copy and paste here for more information. >> >> Do you have the drivers for your graphics card installed? What type >> of graphics card is this? > > My laptop is HP Pavilion tx2510us > and uses the graphics card ATI Radeon(TM) HD 3200 Graphics > everything works expect even when the terminal does come up > it gives this error > xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "replay.free-bsd.net:0" in "remove" command > > ideas? > Please don't only reply to me, if your initial question was towards the list -- someone else may see something I'm missing. You never answered my initial question. Are the proper xorg drivers for your graphics card installed? I ask again, because I've seen several situations where non-existent or incorrect graphics drivers make X do bad/odd things when exiting -- I've experienced this situation myself. I know nothing about ATI, other than it doesn't play well with any of the OSes I use, so I don't buy it. -- Glen Barber 570.328.0318 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:09:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C427106567C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EDF8FC21 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so648753fkk.11 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:09:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=oX6Zf/dXTcKb/ms/K4siBNX/GDlN4Mp/2KeUzv4/kqk=; b=O1dpET7Iqxj1XsNn5YZyy8FEG2nSw4F91Uhcs0zPtOAWIAvDtXlmpMZlgWu3AVW80e mw3wZAqKf2gCi0WjNa2YLAOyjBM50ZYi5G8miM/2Yc2lY6dS4IsqTBHvF8afmkzmqLEf b/9ZD2IhA9qD35v/WTKRVyoPORqXbAKGzTndk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XCrpGfQ5yEAgFbkH+KprqijiED+JonJC/wuaSKhHG4H85IeVGMmRDPpVTz8ReXLHx7 mIZgUAhGbI022MRcpHfyXvAOv5XqVaRh74m7MUXwrk35nFwsWUC1CV6nDWXLk1zu3n8T rGKObMfKb9i/zLGcsugybUZ+bUFahEpBCK4Gk= Received: by 10.181.134.11 with SMTP id l11mr649840bkn.73.1224841052565; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.231.15 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:07:32 +0530 From: "Masoom Shaikh" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:09:47 -0000 Hi folks, y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release engineering team does that. comments ? Aston From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:22:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86E1065685 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4318FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9OAMoug018676; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:22:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:22:49 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE1CC@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE Thread-Index: Ack1wRx93mS81r7eRgijAwd5WZSs8wAAO9gg References: From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Masoom Shaikh" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:22:53 -0000 >Onderwerp: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE >Hi folks, >y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 >I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` >it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change = something ? >I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release >engineering team does that. comments ? >Aston If you download the cd BETA2 then you see BETA2 But if you going to csup the latest source from the RELENG_7 branch it = will be named PRERELEASE again. See Beta as just a Timestamp name for the PRERELEASE branch. Regards, Johan Hendriks=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1742 - Release Date: = 23-10-2008 15:29 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:26:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ABD106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2428FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wa9k1a00H0cQ2SLA9aSaWS; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:26:34 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WaSY1a0012P6wsM8WaSYUV; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:26:33 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=WcZtWtu7Buo2Wvz5f6kA:9 a=Q3hPefyPeeGCK3moEksA:7 a=KpL-OWwjjqZQ8o0Eqh_eJGw3I3oA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 53EEEC9439; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:26:32 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20081024102632.GA11709@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:26:34 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: > Hi folks, > y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 > I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` > it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? > > I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release > engineering team does that. comments ? This question keeps coming up. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no "BETA2" tag to follow. No one is sure at this point where the "BETA2" string has come from (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply name the releases PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD to signify the build date. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:35:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765D6106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from queueout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95108FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20081024102354.MKBM2285.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:54 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20081024102354.BQMO21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:54 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id D0FCB6186; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72F236131 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:28 +0100 (BST) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:28 +0100 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:28 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081024102328.GA75968@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=Yz6iINNp92V3VA0DNnYA:9 a=IQxmO3-W-MdlEdjPYn5qIE57ZwUA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=Mv1FF24KNzeHtp1WAyoA:9 a=TnQicX-sWSREA7VOVLm42xoi11EA:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Cc: Subject: Re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:35:50 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:43:32AM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the client, but= =20 > since I seem to get troubles with two different clients, I'm thinking it= =20 > might be the server: >=20 >=20 > I've got a FreeBSD 7.0-p4 machine running isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2=20 > serving my home network. When my Linux (Archlinux) client request > a lease, this happens: >=20 > [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 > eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting > eth0: broadcasting for a lease > eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' > eth0: checking 10.0.0.176 is available on attached networks >=20 > ... and then it times out, and does not configure the network. This=20 > makes me think that there may be a client issue, since the DCHP server=20 > does indeed offer an address. But I also have troubles with a Mac OS X=20 > client (although it's a little more vague about the errors). If the server is handing out /24 network prefixes, then once your clients bind the offered address in 10.0.0/24, they can no longer communicate with= =20 the server in 10.0.1/24. You can a) give the DHCP server an alias IP address in 10.0.0/24 on the appropriate interface b) change the network prefix to 16 bits, so that 10.0.0 and 10.0.1 (and ALL other addresses with the prefix 10.0) are in the same=20 logical network space c) renumber your DHCP pool Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkBoiAACgkQixf5fBYiFmp8GwCdE0ub79GQZy2Gvx8foCGRQYAG PaQAn1O7LqsHhapZJ6m6b9wTaoRr71QQ =cThO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:36:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B2B1065675 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012FD8FC21 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448BE1EEE80; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:36:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.404 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.404 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.765, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1eYl7zRbS89L; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:36:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20851EE9CD; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4901A03C.4020302@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:15:24 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Masoom Shaikh References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:36:45 -0000 Masoom Shaikh skrev: > Hi folks, > y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 > I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` > it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? > > I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release > engineering team does that. comments ? > > Aston > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I just asked the same question this morning. See the archives for the discussion and the answer that was given. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 10:52:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4CB1065672 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com (roaming.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4568FC23 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from [192.168.1.118] (87-194-184-71.bethere.co.uk [87.194.184.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9OAkH58059152 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:46:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4901A68A.4090602@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:42:18 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ifdnrg18.ifdnrg.com Subject: sendmail sasl problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:52:48 -0000 Hi, I'm having a strange problem after a recent saslauthd upgrade.. I can no longer authenticate to the smtp server, with saslauthd in debug mode i can see the authentication ( via getpwent) as succeeding saslauthd[54468] :rel_accept_lock : released accept lock saslauthd[54468] :do_auth : auth success: [user=smtpauth] [service=smtp] [realm=] [mech=getpwent] saslauthd[54468] :do_request : response: OK however sendmail still gives me a relaying denied i've tried this with various other system users with the same result, saslauthd says ok, sendmail says no! Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-PIPELINING Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-8BITMIME Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-SIZE Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-DSN Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-ETRN Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250-DELIVERBY Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250 HELP Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: <-- AUTH PLAIN AHBhdWwAcmV3N3gwMTQ0NQ== Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 235 2.0.0 OK Authenticated Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: AUTH=server, relay=87-194-184-71.bethere.co.uk [87.194.184.71], authid=paul, mech=PLAIN, bits=0 Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: <-- MAIL FROM: SIZE=20688 Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: Milter: sender: Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: milter=clmilter, action=mail, continue Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: Milter (clmilter): time command (M), 0 Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: milter=spamassassin, action=mail, continue Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: Milter (spamassassin): time command (M), 0 Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: <-- RCPT TO: Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: --- 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required. Oct 24 11:13:01 ifdnrg18 sm-mta[57530]: m9OAD18c057530: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=87-194-184-71.bethere.co.uk [87.194.184.71], reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required. rc.conf #SASLAUTHD saslauthd_enable="YES" #note debug mode for sasl runs the daemon in foreground #saslauthd_flags="-a getpwent -d" saslauthd_flags="-a getpwent" there's nothing in the access maps to reject this host, and adding myself to the access map fixes it for me ( but obv not anyone else) The same upgrade to sasl went smoothly on 2 other boxes with fairly identical setups, and both sasl and sendmail have been reinstalled with same effect. Can anyone offer any suggestions? tia Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 11:06:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1631065679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112748FC22 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9OB6pn9022445; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:06:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9OB6oeZ022442; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:06:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:06:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Message-ID: <20081024130628.O22441@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:06:59 -0000 > a lease, this happens: > > [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 > eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting > eth0: broadcasting for a lease > eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what's your netmask? if /24 your dhcp server is misconfigured From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 11:20:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7FF106567C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534B38FC1B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285D016C8A5 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:20:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id AFC8416C897 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:20:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 57769 invoked by uid 88); 24 Oct 2008 13:17:07 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:17:07 +0200 Message-ID: <4901AF37.2080402@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:19:19 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20081024130628.O22441@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081024130628.O22441@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:20:05 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> a lease, this happens: >> >> [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 >> eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting >> eth0: broadcasting for a lease >> eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > what's your netmask? > > if /24 your dhcp server is misconfigured No, it's /23, and the dhcp server has address 10.0.1.1, and it's handing out addresses in the the 10.0.0.2-10.0.0.200 range. 10.0.0.1 is a router with static address. It also uses /23. sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 11:23:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0626B106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0E58FC20 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C80174007 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:23:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 91E5916C8A5 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 59181 invoked by uid 88); 24 Oct 2008 13:20:58 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:20:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4901B01E.2050007@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:23:10 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc> <20081024102328.GA75968@torus.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20081024102328.GA75968@torus.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: Subject: Re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:23:54 -0000 Daniel Bye wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:43:32AM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the client, but >> since I seem to get troubles with two different clients, I'm thinking it >> might be the server: >> >> >> I've got a FreeBSD 7.0-p4 machine running isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2 >> serving my home network. When my Linux (Archlinux) client request >> a lease, this happens: >> >> [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 >> eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting >> eth0: broadcasting for a lease >> eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' >> eth0: checking 10.0.0.176 is available on attached networks >> >> ... and then it times out, and does not configure the network. This >> makes me think that there may be a client issue, since the DCHP server >> does indeed offer an address. But I also have troubles with a Mac OS X >> client (although it's a little more vague about the errors). > > If the server is handing out /24 network prefixes, then once your clients > bind the offered address in 10.0.0/24, they can no longer communicate with > the server in 10.0.1/24. > > You can > > a) give the DHCP server an alias IP address in 10.0.0/24 on the > appropriate interface > b) change the network prefix to 16 bits, so that 10.0.0 and 10.0.1 > (and ALL other addresses with the prefix 10.0) are in the same > logical network space > c) renumber your DHCP pool The dhcp server has netmask /23, and are also handing out this netmask to clients. I have lots of clients running FreeBSD, Windows and OS X not complaining. I do however, have one OS X client that's been constantly complaining, and recently also an Archlinux machine. It used to work on the Linux client up until recently. It might be the client, in which case I should probably ask some Lunux-folks, but since one of the apples also have a problem, I thought I might be the server. Can I diagnose this any further? sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 12:36:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E3D10656A0; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [216.243.150.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3CC8FC29; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (c-24-118-145-206.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [24.118.145.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E06EE169E4CE; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:20:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4901BDA2.7020002@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:20:50 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <20081024102632.GA11709@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081024102632.GA11709@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Masoom Shaikh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:36:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: >> Hi folks, >> y'day I csuped the src and built installed the kernel from RELENG_7 >> I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` >> it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have to change something ? >> >> I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate it. I guess release >> engineering team does that. comments ? > > This question keeps coming up. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html > > RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no "BETA2" tag to follow. > > No one is sure at this point where the "BETA2" string has come from > (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). I'm of the > belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in newvers.sh before > building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the mirrors. > And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we should simply > name the releases PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD to signify the build date. > When you run make release you have to set BUILDNAME to something. That value then sets the value of RELEASE in sys/conf/newvers.sh, which then affects uname output. I suppose everyone has an opinion as to what to name things, a classic bikeshed item. My opinion is that if BETA2 is an arbitrary name and there's no way to know the timestamp it was built from in CVS, then replacing BETA2 with the timestamp used for the CVS checkout makes sense. Of course CVS is good down to the second, so it would have to be YYYYMMDDHHMMSS...and at that point 7.1-PRERELEASE-20081020071001 starts making BETA2 look good. - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJAb2iJvkB8SevrssRAvDqAJ4glXZL7dtiMLlaU2r8glSSa3XEsgCfY2ag S7+FOqNjJ10miUOLuq/AEEQ= =VzUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 12:42:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE86106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDEE8FC1D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000022400000220-65-4901beba5a52 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:25:30 -0400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:24:45 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4901B01E.2050007@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DHCP server Thread-Index: Ack1yuWGCC7wuww3S0avmVNLCyy8igAB8Uog References: <490198C4.8040907@lvor.halvorsen.cc><20081024102328.GA75968@torus.slightlystrange.org> <4901B01E.2050007@lvor.halvorsen.cc> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Svein Halvor Halvorsen" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:42:53 -0000 On Behalf Of Svein Halvor Halvorsen >Daniel Bye wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:43:32AM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >>> I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the client, but=20 >>> since I seem to get troubles with two different clients, I'm thinking it=20 >>> might be the server: >>> >=20 > The dhcp server has netmask /23, and are also handing out this netmask > to clients. >=20 > I have lots of clients running FreeBSD, Windows and OS X not=20 > complaining. I do however, have one OS X client that's been constantly > complaining, and recently also an Archlinux machine. It used to work on=20 > the Linux client up until recently. >=20 > It might be the client, in which case I should probably ask some=20 > Lunux-folks, but since one of the apples also have a problem, I thought=20 > I might be the server. >=20 > Can I diagnose this any further? Set up Wireshark to capture the UDP packets. Compare a successful assignment with the unsuccessful variations. See which side stops responding in each conversation and troubleshoot that end. There may be some clues in the event log on MS-Windows or the syslog files on OS-X. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 12:45:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDBE1065679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C43A68FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8900 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2008 12:45:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=nv2KvessOseHRFfd18NePoEWUuDteSmqdwhWS+dmm+ka7ncFK3mXd4XSHZV0VDxLNQS/IVZIPbf7HroLd53lUb8LJmtax+xs/7M9CWlQ/AX2J2PK/cwPND28zuyooOD8tVJQBndTdioctPPZndMEjjs8v6lM3lN97qsFztflY2Q=; X-YMail-OSG: fX8yW4gVM1lUK3dTGHsOAtLP5xXe9w6bxhFVpb9uwDBcyQ7QLUimTuujpzzvujwx59mnSlmoIw2ON1u7ODNxBwy2GXc7ZsBmVsGJEQZgmqNWdHvp2fR3737o1VWVF9cLgj5mDrmZO0iWwb9oYEbJrhB3FH1XhelsrIhT4Kpfy08PBPU- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:45:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:45:31 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Masoom Shaikh , Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081024102632.GA11709@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <171196.8233.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:45:32 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > From: Jeremy Chadwick > Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE > To: "Masoom Shaikh" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:26 AM > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > y'day I csuped the src and built installed the > kernel from RELENG_7 > > I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` > > it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have > to change something ? > > > > I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate > it. I guess release > > engineering team does that. comments ? > > This question keeps coming up. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html > > RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no "BETA2" tag > to follow. > > No one is sure at this point where the "BETA2" > string has come from > (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). > I'm of the > belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in > newvers.sh before > building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the > mirrors. > And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we > should simply > name the releases PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD to signify the build > date. It seems likely. I've only ever seen -PRERELEASE and -STABLE, when tracking "RELENG_[0-9]" branch. On the other hand, I have seen -RELEASE, -BETA, -RC, etc, when installing from media. Perhaps differentiating these isn't a bad idea, however, when it comes to uname output in PR's, despite the queries it generates over here. A media install can always be safely assumed to be a given set of code, while if someone is tracking a branch via cvsup, the build time would show up in uname output, however the user may still need to be queried for rcsid's or asked to cvsup to the latest if the issue is considered to possibly be a base system and/or kernel code issue. It's probably worth discussion and consideration, though. I don't know if/how useful the utility of the current naming conventions are to folks trying to solve potential code bug PRs. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 12:51:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D2B10656A5; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0E48FC1C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9OCp03M017017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:51:03 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9OCoxSS073179; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:50:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9OCoxiX073178; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:50:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:50:59 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Alexander Sack , FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:51:06 -0000 --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Oct-24 10:43:04 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> 6.1-RELEASE-amd64 machine. If I add /usr/lib32 to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH >> it breaks all of my binaries on my 64-bit machine. > >what do you expect else? Well, the rtld should be smart enough to recognize 32-bit .so's and skip them when binding a 64-bit executable. Whilst having /usr/lib32 in LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't make sense from a solely FreeBSD perspective, I have done similar things when writing cross-platform scripts (to avoid having to use platform-dependent code). >this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it=20 >can't work rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkBxLMACgkQ/opHv/APuIfQ5wCfZ63ktz3M4mKAUvDQU7LgYV7T 3pgAnRVr96FniAD8AqwK5Ov4JhN45qvH =t3f0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:09:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2313B106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D058FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so801765rvf.43 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GJmd5MdXalSuuur/PWML/yEWsqt/lmhnr2Vi/pkqOhI=; b=Bp/q+6oDkC9kwwtLwIt+oYv9JRMgy7b9z0JlfKfCrtyBThNnv93EEcD+smRzrq8sa9 ScDRXAslcRoJkVzTR7cUi0m11NGPSX4rVYO+2NWKi7lo5dYrVU3CC3mZRhNv4zJnHgbv ZNRRDYEqghiyXoIrKXKO63cgKm+kUwLYNPNxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=aRjJQ/PGpD3n7fjvQmqzm5GJr/YT1miC5uOGvq698lTAfxYR0vCiXmcqtDhqODXj8Q Q6l4CBwA4Ges4jo4wJZdcQAMUSlpjVpi6WRZ6Gjibaon7ARxWJEV5Jglx6KbDN0YcGLO aiBq3qphZuGOgnjoWK7C3oRFtlPdiClZjfZCs= Received: by 10.141.2.18 with SMTP id e18mr1168103rvi.90.1224853775385; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810240609g402e4947m762f59c0ddd434ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:09:35 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "Peter Jeremy" In-Reply-To: <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:09:36 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Oct-24 10:43:04 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> 6.1-RELEASE-amd64 machine. If I add /usr/lib32 to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH >>> it breaks all of my binaries on my 64-bit machine. >> >>what do you expect else? > > Well, the rtld should be smart enough to recognize 32-bit .so's and > skip them when binding a 64-bit executable. Whilst having /usr/lib32 > in LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't make sense from a solely FreeBSD perspective, > I have done similar things when writing cross-platform scripts (to > avoid having to use platform-dependent code). > >>this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it >>can't work > > rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. Bingo! I don't care what the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is, a 64-bit binary should NEVER attempt to load a 32-bit library (at least by default). If anything, rtld should just exit with can't find library exception. What its doing now in my book is just wrong in everyway. The name of the shared object is no longer enough to verify a match, it also needs to check the arch bits as well. I agree with everyone on this list that for FreeBSD, the gcc toolset initialization should always contain /lib (and in fact I am going further and saying that al *NIX platforms should probably always check /lib since its the default and its there during bootup (that was a good point btw)). I think the issue has been cross platform builds and the way Linux has it organized. I have submitted a patch to add /lib back to the Boost folks but I still want to understand this behavior on FreeBSD - what am I missing? Final note, I thought that /usr/lib would have the major number versions linked just like /usr/lib32 so the above would just work. Right now the issue is libutil.so.5 isn't found not because /lib isn't in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, i.e If I make a symlink in /usr/lib just like the /usr/lib32 file structure, it all just works. I was just saying above that I was wondering why major numbers aren't actually available as links in /usr/lib like they are in /usr/lib32. -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:12:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4DE106567B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6018E8FC1D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078C35F6E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:12:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:13:53 +0200 From: cpghost To: "John L. Templer" Message-ID: <20081024131353.GA1228@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> <20081022171708.43023af8.freebsd@edvax.de> <49001B2D.4090706@comcast.net> <20081023095257.f05a1d95.freebsd@edvax.de> <490155B1.5050502@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490155B1.5050502@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:12:58 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:57:21AM -0400, John L. Templer wrote: > Under Solaris x86 or Ubuntu Linux I have to use an application like > cdrecord or soundjuicer to extract the audio tracks. These applications > bypass the device files and go straight to the SCSI interface layer. > libparanoia is a library that handles the tricky bits of reading the > data off the CD. Just using dd to copy the data from the device file > often results in corrupted data. I was wondering if the BSD kernel (or > devd or whatever) uses a similar method of handling all the different > variations that audio format CDs have. Well, cdrecord is in the ports: /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools: You may need to kldload atapicam though... >From /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrtools/pkg-descr: The cdrtools software includes tools to create and/or extract ISO-9660 filesystems, verify their integrity, and write them to disc. This package contains the following programs: - cdda2wav (an digital CD audio extraction program) - cdrecord (a CD-R[W] recording program) - devdump (dump a device or file in hex) - isodebug (show debug info contained in an ISO-9660 image) - isodump (dump a device or file based on ISO-9660) - isoinfo (analyze or list an ISO-9660 image) - isovfy (verify an ISO-9660 image) - mkisofs (an ISO-9660 filesystem image creator) - mkhybrid (an ISO-9660/HFS filesystem image creator) Link to mkisofs. - readcd (a data CD reading and recording program) May be used to to write to DVD-RAM and to copy Solaris boot CD's. - scgcheck (checks and validates the ABI of libscg) - rscsi (daemon providing access to local SCSI-devices over the network) WWW: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/cdrecord.html Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:22:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F2A1065670 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B608FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so881539fgb.35 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zaGrn/99G1zb78GPg3SxNCbbY+e/8iW11lXRYsWAh/I=; b=DjsbDAd2V/qP2RoiaWBXdZz1eQbcEuagg6iFEyYluesXGeBEZOo/k0ZaBYsfikqz8p 5eCOixRZ5ItytWGyLwS8TnZt8Ns0QSG4s4OjKJ4ngTw2Iv/FrPpkch3nADiwV9jUBXkc j2OeK+tU3GN/7OSF8nQcd2K59z55EVWgm08Mk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=lUZI/AJXeXwbVB2rOM7S73Bgynu1txbKkfm7FJ3AdJPlYI4LmyjRkxXtuUQv4y9Ie8 ZxQRgFA8cCJsgtEB7mP/NgJVVLwfpKKoIv/WyU4r/my3QGIp81YGUPEzcUx+jTZITfBz pKq/Z4owBrRbmnCmOyqZ8KsL6KThUOwmTAu5A= Received: by 10.187.220.5 with SMTP id x5mr106206faq.78.1224854566137; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ad871310810240622w4803e1ecgdf650ab05724eb22@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:22:46 -0400 From: "Glen Barber" To: "Juan Ortega" In-Reply-To: <200810240325.19356.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810212242.46534.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> <200810232139.07798.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> <4ad871310810240306l16ec8e04p176abac05c5e0cc8@mail.gmail.com> <200810240325.19356.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Trouble Shutting down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:22:48 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Juan Ortega wrote: > > I'm not sure, when I first installed FreeBSD "X -configure" did everything > in KInfoCenter the X-Server seems to be ok > maybe since its snapshot version of FreeBSD the graphics drivers are > in "testing"? > What driver does /etc/X11/xorg.conf have listed for your graphics driver? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:29:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FFC106569C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393E38FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so726767fkk.11 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bttywknXfg2osrkrINVnfZbG9f8q6glcSgScE/UMx9w=; b=Br2tH+W4MnvOh6vzFKT25Snmzi8YV8FylMeEmB+ItmkNUjPkvKpTbhHPFK0t/2qA2o toz8PmTD1f2hg6osmy4+hZPTl83lkwjKeg/TAhdmp0jtUjOUSfVtqGt/qT8to2Alc9np C0A3OevKWvRIWkC2UlXc2OHzgD+gQdUdcu/ZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jy8CmnQktWKLaQGmIi3CaUdQOefJDfjgDU/2X/WJ+jl9sxlLLFcCHgzE8hufAzLqmE Vq37h58LflrRXW/wToqL5GA/6l5Q5k0vNaQDLiU/J9czNjfilhprh+3Nzl9AasSh/B36 sJ6WkPxyal3HpZ70rvul8n1rh/Pq24JqT2ckM= Received: by 10.181.234.8 with SMTP id l8mr774935bkr.105.1224854940570; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.231.15 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:29:00 +0000 From: "Masoom Shaikh" To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <171196.8233.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081024102632.GA11709@icarus.home.lan> <171196.8233.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:29:02 -0000 thanks to all those gr8 comments, I learnt. and sorry for creating noise, I was in office and thus could not put required effort. as far as liking of release names goes, I feel BETA-x naming practice serves the purpose, it makes sense to casual users. changing version with date is too fast....just my two cents if they count ;-) Aston On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM, mdh wrote: > --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > From: Jeremy Chadwick > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.1, BETA2 or PRERELEASE > > To: "Masoom Shaikh" > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:26 AM > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:07:32PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh > > wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > y'day I csuped the src and built installed the > > kernel from RELENG_7 > > > I was expecting FreeBSD-BETA2 in output of `uname -a` > > > it is still -PRERELEASE, is it by decision or I have > > to change something ? > > > > > > I greped /usr/src for PRERELEASE but cud not locate > > it. I guess release > > > engineering team does that. comments ? > > > > This question keeps coming up. > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/184992.html > > > > RELENG_7 == PRERELEASE. There is no "BETA2" tag > > to follow. > > > > No one is sure at this point where the "BETA2" > > string has come from > > (meaning why it was idealised or why it's being used). > > I'm of the > > belief that it's something Ken is hand-hacking in > > newvers.sh before > > building + making ISO releases and putting them up on the > > mirrors. > > And I am also of the opinion that this should stop, and we > > should simply > > name the releases PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD to signify the build > > date. > > It seems likely. I've only ever seen -PRERELEASE and -STABLE, when > tracking "RELENG_[0-9]" branch. On the other hand, I have seen -RELEASE, > -BETA, -RC, etc, when installing from media. > > Perhaps differentiating these isn't a bad idea, however, when it comes to > uname output in PR's, despite the queries it generates over here. A media > install can always be safely assumed to be a given set of code, while if > someone is tracking a branch via cvsup, the build time would show up in > uname output, however the user may still need to be queried for rcsid's or > asked to cvsup to the latest if the issue is considered to possibly be a > base system and/or kernel code issue. > > It's probably worth discussion and consideration, though. I don't know > if/how useful the utility of the current naming conventions are to folks > trying to solve potential code bug PRs. > > - mdh > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:31:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742F010656A7 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8988FC2C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KtMlb-0007bo-5T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:31:51 -0400 Message-ID: <9CF094BB35D341D28B1EFFD1A7A75FAF@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:31:41 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE installing php-imap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:31:52 -0000 Hi all, I have a script that required php-imap extension installed but I keep running into a 2 snags when 'making' the port (mail/php-imap)... First, I have to use the -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER so openssl_overwtite_base won't kill the make, which seems to work, and, most importantly, when the mail/imap-php port tried to actually do the build of the imap part, it says it can't find (OpenSSLs) 'evp.h' file. I assume it is just failing on the first file it can't find. So, I guess the question is, when making the mail/imap-php port, is there a way to pass the path for the OpenSSL libraries? My libs appear to be in two places: server# locate evp.h /usr/include/openssl/evp.h /usr/src/crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp.h If I can pass the path, I assume I should use the /usr/include dir, but how? make -D"--with-openssl=/usr/include/openssl" ??? TIA, -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:23:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A35A106567C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trolle@trolle.net) Received: from nwsgames.net (85-235-233-152.dsl.essbredbaand.dk [85.235.233.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCF48FC25 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trolle@trolle.net) Received: by nwsgames.net (Postfix, from userid 80) id 54928619E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:00:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 164.39.88.137 (164.39.88.137 [164.39.88.137]) by nwsgames.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:00:57 +0200 Message-ID: <20081024150057.gyw7d0uu8g08cs0o@nwsgames.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:00:57 +0200 From: trolle@trolle.net To: RAY References: <200810231607.34383.ray@stilltech.net> In-Reply-To: <200810231607.34383.ray@stilltech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:37:38 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems getting server on line X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:23:33 -0000 Quoting RAY : > Greetings; > I have an existing server running FreeBsd 6.3. It's running as a =20 > name/web/mail > server. > I have built a new server to replace it running FreeBsd 7.0. I have both > servers attached to the same router, with the production server sitting in > the DMZ. I have tried to switch them over by simply changing which server = the > DMZ points to. When I did this, the new server didn't work. I could connec= t > to the webserver (telnet to port 80) using either localhost or the privat= e > IP address (192.168...), but not using the domain name. I could connect to > the default website properly from another computer on the same router usin= g > the private ip address. > My first guess was that it was the firewall on the server configured > incorrectly, so I disabled PF which didn't help. > > Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. > Ray > Hi, It looks like a router problem to me, do you have some port-forwarding =20 or somethin like that on the router you have not changed? Have you tried changing the new servers IP to the old servers and =20 pointing the DMZ to that old IP? as in simply switching the new server =20 for the old? Hope this helps. Mads Trolle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:42:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CA01065676; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from phoebe.cse.buffalo.edu (phoebe.cse.buffalo.edu [128.205.32.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE78D8FC19; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from [128.205.32.76] (bauer.cse.buffalo.edu [128.205.32.76]) (authenticated bits=0) by phoebe.cse.buffalo.edu (8.14.1/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9ODKe5Y040305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:20:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu) From: Ken Smith To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081024053044.GB5231@icarus.home.lan> References: <49014E18.9010209@eskk.nu> <20081024042710.GA4254@icarus.home.lan> <490151E1.6090909@eskk.nu> <20081024053044.GB5231@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-4AWbcoe+YAariqeLeG7e" Organization: U. Buffalo CSE Department Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:20:40 -0400 Message-Id: <1224854440.62750.25.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-DCC-Buffalo.EDU-Metrics: phoebe.cse.buffalo.edu 1029; Body=0 Fuz1=0 Fuz2=0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on phoebe.cse.buffalo.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Upgrading 7.1-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:42:02 -0000 --=-4AWbcoe+YAariqeLeG7e Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 22:30 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > I sincerely do not know where "BETA2" (not "BETA-2") comes from. It's > not defined anywhere in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh in CVS: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh >=20 > To me, this means someone is hand-hacking the file before making ISO > releases. The problem with this is there's no way to correlate what CVS > tag said string is based on; I have to assume it's RELENG_7. >=20 > CC'ing Ken, who can probably explain where "BETA2" comes from, since I > believe he's the one who makes the builds. Release builds are done using whats in /usr/src/release. One of the things you can set on the command line when you run make(1) there is the BUILDNAME variable, for example "BUILDNAME=3D7.1-BETA2" in this case. The result of doing that is to change src/sys/conf/newvers.sh inside the build environment (which is among other things a checked out source tree) before doing the build. We use BUILDNAME for the Monthly Snapshots as well, that's why src/sys/conf/newvers.sh doesn't need to be altered just for those builds. > > I really wish we'd name our not-yet-RELEASE-or-STABLE ISO releases as > FreeBSD x.y-PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD, which would make more sense to users. > What to have in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh before we do the branch for the release (typically the BETA builds, we usually do the branch for the release at the point we shift over to Release Candidates (RCs)) is unfortunately something we can't win with no matter what we do. The truth is that branches like RELENG_7 are development branches. We try very hard to never break things (well, badly anyway... :-) in those branches once they're considered to be a "stable branch". But from time to time things do get broken there. If we were a corporation RELENG_7 type branches wouldn't be available to the public - they would be a "tool" for the staff programmers to work in. Its the RELENG_7_0 type branches that would be considered suitable for our customers. But we're not a corporation, and we don't want to keep stuff "private". The downside to that however is people who are sort-of involved in the FreeBSD community but aren't truly active participants see RELENG_7 called "stable" and figure its OK to run their systems on that. We tell them not to, or at least to be sure to read mailing lists like freebsd-stable@ if they're going to do that, but lots of people don't follow that advice. And someone in that situation *really* freaks out if they update a system and winds up with a system that calls itself something too strange. It was a lot worse the last couple times we tried calling a "stable branch" something that had the word BETA in it, and we've more or less settled on PRERELEASE with no other fiddling as a way to suggest "something is going on" but not freak out that set of people too much... We do bump src/sys/conf/newvers.sh in the release branches once they get created (so it will become 7.1-RC1 at the point we create RELENG_7_1). But for the BETAs the best you can do to be a bit more descriptive of when you had done a source-based update is just note the date you did the update. --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | --=-4AWbcoe+YAariqeLeG7e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkkBy54ACgkQ/G14VSmup/YrzACfWt97FmjDBM5Mv/x4XruW9+mj IZAAoJULHHtxYplr67OUDFUBMlDEZaAO =ZaVU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-4AWbcoe+YAariqeLeG7e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:48:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F17106567F for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF2BD8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37360 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2008 13:48:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=n6EWUGNPDbgBGIatAuYt1EGR8Mq01opokHWhM/4c/bFtp2t/G8dr1pWbecIqcE+671tpjv5MveVpCTf/0jNrBQrF7Omq+rdLCADe2EYfaJTAfx2exgcX8p77AHAIzGrDxannVDl+RuRyzEXFuxDt+VKdbofFW0DTLAqC8XIvXJs=; X-YMail-OSG: 4fbi8VkVM1nf577W6ChkZUfbL5kzE5KFynkiqnWvwQMi1xfd2.D4pGYpKxe8iKKFxZgB.Jl2TjvdzDipPd_lVttaT44NFsqRE9w7tdVhyGdUnR3vIUBIIJGHaq7f5DhGz4nU0sE0hVFzWBluDJFiS3cKsQ-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:48:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <9CF094BB35D341D28B1EFFD1A7A75FAF@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <59873.37336.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE installing php-imap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:48:38 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Grant Peel wrote: > From: Grant Peel > Subject: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE installing php-imap > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 9:31 AM > Hi all, > > I have a script that required php-imap extension installed > but I keep > running into a 2 snags when 'making' the port > (mail/php-imap)... > > First, I have to use the -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER so > openssl_overwtite_base > won't kill the make, which seems to work, Hmmm. This sounds indicative of a more serious problem than just something you can work around quickly. I'm not at all familiar with this port though. > > and, most importantly, > > when the mail/imap-php port tried to actually do the build > of the imap part, > it says it can't find (OpenSSLs) 'evp.h' file. > I assume it is just failing > on the first file it can't find. That is very odd. cpp(1) looks in /usr/include by default, without any -I flags specified. As you state below that you have evp.h in /usr/include/openssl/evp.h, I don't see why this would happen. > > So, I guess the question is, when making the mail/imap-php > port, is there a > way to pass the path for the OpenSSL libraries? My libs > appear to be in two > places: > > server# locate evp.h > /usr/include/openssl/evp.h > /usr/src/crypto/openssl/crypto/evp/evp.h > > If I can pass the path, I assume I should use the > /usr/include dir, but how? You'd use a make command such as the following, in the port dir: make CFLAGS='-I/usr/include' install clean That shouldn't be necessary, though, for reasons stated above. > > make -D"--with-openssl=/usr/include/openssl" ??? No. If you wanted to add configure args, you'd use CONFIGURE_ARGS in a similar manner to how my previous example used CFLAGS. > > TIA, > > -Grant This is a strange situation. Did your web search for similar issues turn up anything? Is anyone else experiencing this? If so, was there a PR on it? If not, you may want to contact the port maintainer and see if they have any assistance, or file a PR if there is not one already. Also, please post a reply to the list with your `uname -a` output. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 13:52:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A7B106569D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajphanks@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5708FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajphanks@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wc3b1a0020xGWP858dsSsb; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:52:26 +0000 Received: from sz0027.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.75]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wdsh1a0041dP82L3YdshSE; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:52:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=10SHvqaCvoUA:10 a=svVtg53j9BwA:10 a=b7Q5i9-aKjmn63cFco4A:9 a=9vbl-c2gPAK8tfj9o_EA:7 a=pi5_qUOVxl9FCWWGEnUqZ5xnGGkA:4 a=OyOq_G8mXAEA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) From: ajphanks@comcast.net To: Warren Block Message-ID: <486229633.1046401224856361008.JavaMail.root@sz0027a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [65.82.33.222] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE6 (Win)/5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:03:24 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_58327_276274521.1224856361007" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing to a Lanier LD160c does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:52:42 -0000 ------=_Part_58327_276274521.1224856361007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- "Warren Block" wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, ajphanks@comcast.net wrote: >=20 > > I have tried the reccomendations that you guys have suggested with > no luck. >=20 > > Here is my current printcap. >=20 > > admincolor|LANIER LD160c RPCS:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/admi= ncolor:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dadmincolor:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :if=3D/usr/local/libexec/crf= ilter:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\ > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :tr=3D\f: >=20 > Please trim your responses and don't top-post, as it makes responding > to=20 > your messages difficult. >=20 > The printcap still has no :rp=3Dlp: line. HP printers aren't picky > about=20 > that, but other brands sometimes are. >=20 > You've also added a filter and kept the multiple printer names.=20 > Things=20 > like that make more complexity to debug. Wait until you have basic=20 > communication working. The exact suggested printcap entry: >=20 > admincolor:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lp=3D:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sh:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :mx#0:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :rm=3Dadmincolor:\ > :rp=3Dlp:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :sd=3D/var/spool/output/admi= ncolor:\ > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs: >=20 > Note: one printer name (who needs more than one, really?). rm=3D and > rp=3D=20 > entries. No filter; I think that printer can handle PostScript and > PCL. >=20 > Put that printcap entry in /etc/printcap, then send a PostScript test > to=20 > the printer (all one line): >=20 > printf "%%\!PS\n/Courier findfont 20 scalefont setfont 72 72 moveto > (Test!) show showpage\f" | lpr -P admincolor >=20 > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA I tried to reply to this email, but it never got posted. After doing some more troubleshooting I found out the generic error message= was indicating an authentication error. By default the printer assumes co= lor print, but the printer was setup to require a userid from the driver to= allow color printing. When the autherntication feature is disabled the pr= inter now works. My next step is to see what and how I can supply that inf= o in the printcap. =20 Thanks for all the suggestions and guidance. ------=_Part_58327_276274521.1224856361007-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 14:42:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFD7106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3C28FC1C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so303586yxb.13 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:42:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oz5bUNxiHsDa0Uq4MbqujUJmcquku2jdcxvHUs1VHnQ=; b=JLxtm8KKtA5VGSPw5zxtLR/GwiHcBxUblBX1DU6oZu6rbBv/c7MUzJWf2MuKIAGLlu PhJkVlEPH0ilxWkYR9hffgRgEI257MBKCXWqfjvk8e7fQxGkMmY7pvb5L07kJ+a1rBOm MFa7K5nQp/yDvX4m5tiKTISUdNLvhXvcatP7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WpXsKod+tmsDYCkcOXpEh8zUnAR0AxxzsdVmzhhiroBkjl2Y069o7A2BgXt8Nq8KPT ISA98/1E9EfISf15/ciwmUJpz/UBqrBvu6DE2GuE5HRnsfkepCtbeqQDjRmMK8VoZ78r wBh2HfkOyHpRYjlYWGsDZocbfiLja10B7ejHU= Received: by 10.151.11.17 with SMTP id o17mr1704484ybi.82.1224857953233; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m71sm166353rnd.3.2008.10.24.07.19.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4901D95E.4000006@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:19:10 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Bellcore MGR lightweight window manager on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:42:29 -0000 Does anyone remember the lightweight window manager called MGR, from Bellcore? ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/MGR/!INDEX.html I'm curious if anyone out there has gotten this to run on FreeBSD. I used it on an older system, years ago, and it was pretty effective - and would be useful for low-res environments, etc. Thx... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 15:57:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67C7106567A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39A28FC1D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so201349uge.39 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.10.1 with SMTP id 1mr2498144ebj.105.1224862525497; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm1218573nfh.23.2008.10.24.08.35.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4901EB3E.3050506@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:35:26 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: change of behaviour after reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:57:29 -0000 I had to perform a stupidity related reboot after allowing my /var fs to get to 109%. All seems well except for the behaviour of some of my rather ancient cgi scripts which are for serving up moinmoin wikis. Prior to the reboot these all seemed to work fine they hd the #! line #!/usr/bin/env python after the reboot these scripts refused to work. The log messages say > env: python: No such file or directory > Premature end of script headers: zzz-wiki.cgi I tried to check that env was there and that it gave me a reasonable python (at least at the terminal). However, something had obviously changed as the scripts now only work if I use #!/usr/local/bin/python I'm worried now in case my reboot or the over usage has caused some hidden damage. Anybody have any idea what could cause this misbehaviour? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 16:03:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295B2106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from raptor.centroin.com (asmtp.centroin.com [64.251.27.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70498FC35 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from trex.centroin.com.br (trex.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by raptor.centroin.com (8.14.3/8.13.8/CIP SMTP HOST) with ESMTP id m9OG5Kbb016244 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:05:23 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:03:42 -0200 (BRST) From: scuba@centroin.com.br Sender: mpsouza@trex.centroin.com.br To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200808191405.m7JE56iq010742@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20081024135241.H96427@trex.centroin.com.br> References: <200808191405.m7JE56iq010742@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Running legacy i386 binaries on a amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:03:25 -0000 Hi all, I have a fresh install of FBSD 7 amd64, and I want to run some legacy binaries from my old box (Fbsd 5.x i386). Searching the archives, I found this message: On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Oliver Fromme wrote: |Christopher Joyner wrote: | > Is there some way of doing that? Running i386 software on amd64 machine? | |Yes. FreeBSD/amd64 contains a compatibility facility |for i386 binaries. It should just work out of the box, |unless disabled explicitly. When I try to run the binaries, the following error message is displayed: ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 not found Abort I found the following tip to install 32bits libraries: cd /usr/src make build32 make install32 ldconfig -32 /usr/lib32 Is that enough? Thank you, - Marcelo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 16:10:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304FA106567B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75BD8FC34 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9OFodph003332; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:50:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: (from kadmin@localhost) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.13.1/Submit) id m9OFodar003331; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:50:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kadmin) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:50:39 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081024155039.GA3285@ezekiel.daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:10:23 -0000 Hello, For various reasons, I find myself in need of an MTA accepting submission on a port other than 587 (or 25). It'd be Real Nice(tm) if sendmail could Just Do It, but I'd be willing to look at other options as well, as long as I can get a good spam solution to play nice with the server (currently I'm running dual-sendmail with Amavisd-new and spamassassin). Anyone doing such a thing, or have a few hints handy? TIA, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 16:29:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA7F106569C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E967B8FC22 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wb3G1a0020x6nqcAAgVFbT; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:29:15 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WgVE1a00R2P6wsM8YgVEZN; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:29:15 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sa8qx-EqAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=azB-d3KUZzYveV2JJ80A:9 a=GCmL5fDJQxrMw75_JT0S7SMMfQYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2904CC9419; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:29:14 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20081024162914.GA2776@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081024155039.GA3285@ezekiel.daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081024155039.GA3285@ezekiel.daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:29:16 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:50:39AM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Hello, > > For various reasons, I find myself in need of an MTA > accepting submission on a port other than 587 (or 25). > > It'd be Real Nice(tm) if sendmail could Just Do It, > but I'd be willing to look at other options as well, > as long as I can get a good spam solution to play nice > with the server (currently I'm running dual-sendmail > with Amavisd-new and spamassassin). > > Anyone doing such a thing, or have a few hints handy? It can do it. See the DAEMON_OPTIONS macro in your /etc/mail/hostname.mc file. (Remember: DO NOT edit sendmail.cf directly). Here's a hint: http://www.sendmail.org/~gshapiro/8.10.Training/DaemonPortOptions.html -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 16:56:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844C6106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682188FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so512258wag.27 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.18.3 with SMTP id v3mr2124988wai.218.1224865758821; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.175.18 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:29:18 -0300 From: "Joey Mingrone" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:56:10 -0000 Hi, My laptop "died" recently and to get back to work as quickly as possible I simply took the laptop ide drive and put it into an old desktop using a 2.5" -> 3.5" ide adapter. After loading a few new drivers into the kernel everything is working quite well. The next thing I've tried to do, without success, is mirror the contents of the 2.5" drive to a 3.5" drive in the desktop. The 2.5" drive is sliced/partitioned like this: Filesystem Size Mounted on /dev/ad0s2a 989M / /dev/ad0s2d 989M /tmp /dev/ad0s2f 59G /usr /dev/ad0s2e 989M /var ad0s1 is a 20GB slice that I have window installed on. The drive's total capacity is 80G. The 3.5" drive is only 70G so I'll have to skip the ad0s1 slice. Ideally what I'd like to do is copy everything from the ad0s2 slice to the 3.5" and run the OS off that drive. Then, each dump the contents of the 3.5" drive to the 2.5" drive. That way if either drive dies I'll, hopefully at worst, just have to switch which drive I boot from. Can anyone with experience doing something this make suggestions? Thanks, Joey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 17:01:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7501065685 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9639D8FC1B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WcMW1a00J0vyq2s59h1ZWW; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:01:33 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wh1Y1a00Z2P6wsM3Rh1ZSj; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:01:33 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=p2MQg6uDFGczC7uyhZgA:9 a=f_Lgnf5U_tcs_z5HgrYg5elECKkA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80D2AC9419; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:01:32 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Joey Mingrone Message-ID: <20081024170132.GA13074@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:01:35 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 01:29:18PM -0300, Joey Mingrone wrote: > Hi, > > My laptop "died" recently and to get back to work as quickly as > possible I simply took the laptop ide drive and put it into an old > desktop using a 2.5" -> 3.5" ide adapter. After loading a few new > drivers into the kernel everything is working quite well. > > The next thing I've tried to do, without success, is mirror the > contents of the 2.5" drive to a 3.5" drive in the desktop. > > The 2.5" drive is sliced/partitioned like this: > > Filesystem Size Mounted on > /dev/ad0s2a 989M / > /dev/ad0s2d 989M /tmp > /dev/ad0s2f 59G /usr > /dev/ad0s2e 989M /var > > ad0s1 is a 20GB slice that I have window installed on. > > The drive's total capacity is 80G. > > The 3.5" drive is only 70G so I'll have to skip the ad0s1 slice. > Ideally what I'd like to do is copy everything from the ad0s2 slice to > the 3.5" and run the OS off that drive. Then, each dump the contents > of the 3.5" drive to the 2.5" drive. That way if either drive dies > I'll, hopefully at worst, just have to switch which drive I boot from. > > Can anyone with experience doing something this make suggestions? ports/sysutils/cpdup? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 17:10:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB8810656A6 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65E948FC2A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 20112 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2008 17:10:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.189.166) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 24 Oct 2008 17:10:11 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C91DD17084; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:10:09 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:10:09 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20081024171009.GA21134@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081024155039.GA3285@ezekiel.daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081024155039.GA3285@ezekiel.daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:10:15 -0000 On Fri 2008-10-24 10:50:39 UTC-0500, Kevin Kinsey (kdk@daleco.biz) wrote: > For various reasons, I find myself in need of an MTA accepting > submission on a port other than 587 (or 25). >From what I can tell Postfix can be configured to listen on any unused port (or multiple thereof) by editing /usr/local/etc/postfix/master.cf as per the FAQ, then running /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix reload. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 17:16:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763C31065673 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD9258FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 20417 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2008 17:16:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.189.166) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 24 Oct 2008 17:16:48 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AB1C51707A; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:16:46 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:16:46 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: scuba@centroin.com.br Message-ID: <20081024171646.GB21134@ozzmosis.com> References: <200808191405.m7JE56iq010742@lurza.secnetix.de> <20081024135241.H96427@trex.centroin.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081024135241.H96427@trex.centroin.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running legacy i386 binaries on a amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:16:50 -0000 On Fri 2008-10-24 14:03:42 UTC-0200, scuba@centroin.com.br (scuba@centroin.com.br) wrote: > I have a fresh install of FBSD 7 amd64, and I want to run some > legacy binaries from my old box (Fbsd 5.x i386). I don't run 64-bit FreeBSD but from what I've read elsewhere, you can install 32-bit binary support from your FreeBSD 7.x CD: mount /cdrom cd /cdrom/lib32 sh ./install.sh If you're running 5.x binaries you might also need to install misc/compat5x from the ports tree. I hope this is some help... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 17:40:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9589D106566B; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mail-gw5.njit.edu (mail-gw5.njit.edu [128.235.251.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5793A8FC0C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from gilgamesh.maestro (dhcp114-134.njit.edu [128.235.114.134]) by mail-gw5.njit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9OH2Qff016578; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4901FFC1.9010308@wallnet.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:02:57 -0400 From: Tim Kellers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071217) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <20081024155039.GA3285@ezekiel.daleco.biz> <20081024162914.GA2776@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081024162914.GA2776@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:40:46 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:50:39AM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> For various reasons, I find myself in need of an MTA >> accepting submission on a port other than 587 (or 25). >> >> It'd be Real Nice(tm) if sendmail could Just Do It, >> but I'd be willing to look at other options as well, >> as long as I can get a good spam solution to play nice >> with the server (currently I'm running dual-sendmail >> with Amavisd-new and spamassassin). >> >> Anyone doing such a thing, or have a few hints handy? >> > > It can do it. > > See the DAEMON_OPTIONS macro in your /etc/mail/hostname.mc file. > (Remember: DO NOT edit sendmail.cf directly). Here's a hint: > > http://www.sendmail.org/~gshapiro/8.10.Training/DaemonPortOptions.html > > And here is a snip from a box I run sendmail on port 24.. It is from the [hostname].mc file: dnl Enable for both IPv4 and IPv6 (optional) DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=24, Name=MTA, M=EC') From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:19:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A428106569C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB598FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C1250A96 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93BF5083C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:07:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49020ED1.20106@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:07:13 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Koudekerke (NL) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ Triton.webrz.net Subject: LIST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:03 -0000 LIST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:19:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E41F106569D for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA278FC1A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3B4508B0 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:06:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003C95083C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:06:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:06:37 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Koudekerke (NL) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ Triton.webrz.net Subject: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:03 -0000 Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to another user? Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:19:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237A51065681 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D118FC20 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9OIJNrR014180; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9OIJN9p014177; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Joey Mingrone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:25 -0000 On Fri, 24 Oct 2008, Joey Mingrone wrote: > The next thing I've tried to do, without success, is mirror the > contents of the 2.5" drive to a 3.5" drive in the desktop. > > The 2.5" drive is sliced/partitioned like this: > > Filesystem Size Mounted on > /dev/ad0s2a 989M / > /dev/ad0s2d 989M /tmp > /dev/ad0s2f 59G /usr > /dev/ad0s2e 989M /var > > ad0s1 is a 20GB slice that I have window installed on. > > The drive's total capacity is 80G. > > The 3.5" drive is only 70G so I'll have to skip the ad0s1 slice. > Ideally what I'd like to do is copy everything from the ad0s2 slice to > the 3.5" and run the OS off that drive. Then, each dump the contents > of the 3.5" drive to the 2.5" drive. That way if either drive dies > I'll, hopefully at worst, just have to switch which drive I boot from. > > Can anyone with experience doing something this make suggestions? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:19:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A3E10656A8 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) Received: from linsmtp.tcs.timeinc.com (post.customersvc.com [64.236.226.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C64A8FC30 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) Received: from bc008988.tcs.timeinc.com (unknown [10.176.156.20]) by linsmtp.tcs.timeinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD87D6A7DE for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49020DC1.4060205@custserv.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:02:41 -0400 From: Mark Jacobs Organization: Time Customer Service User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Drive Disconnection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.jacobs@custserv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:19:57 -0000 I have an external Lacie 1Tb drive attached to a FreeBSD 6.4-PRERELEASE system via an ESATA connection. atapci0: I cleaned off the drive by writing random data to it. The write took overnight and didn't experience any problems. I then added a filesystem to the drive and mounted it on the system. However when I perform an rsync backup from a FreeBSD 7.1 PRERELEASE system to the drive over an NFS connection the drive disconnects and the server reboots. Does anyone have an idea where to go from here? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL ---- $100 placed at 7 percent interest compounded quarterly for 200 years will increase to more than $100,000,000 -- by which time it will be worth nothing. Robert A. Heinlein Time Enough for Love (1973) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:21:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2691065671 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6368FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so667887rne.12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:21:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JK68QscJuvJ1ICSdVfMG4RVPSnkTO1teAYbWn1Pj2HY=; b=E8X6V9yBzOEN0HxwnnOGkOIu6Z4clMbvC+rVDBZG/NuCOt/Z68mmv3NUNUKbFrnqJL KgwS6mqcai+yVLc5OVYtGgeFxDbaxtjU1IyXhjR5WMC28ioI4+6oLv8+4YPe4RM06izP ljO4wwnJigG2BSeoBx1ef49kuhddYmT3MouP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=RLkRQhpd8Pl1P+ZTQQq5ZdriOKzomJxhZxcAeR2gi6MqFYSH93Tle7WFXdLxRaWFjv POPfVLGWk2WeaIvnto+uJOeFihqK1jgLLaQYx278CwcKOLUmlyMwlNY4CNPTWlQApdkb wzrT2tkcR5DV2mifs2ipp8uAfaD2kwb8lpUnc= Received: by 10.187.252.4 with SMTP id e4mr182086fas.7.1224872478847; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ad871310810241121o740539fbv906ab7e77485e411@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:21:18 -0400 From: "Glen Barber" To: "Jos Chrispijn" In-Reply-To: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:21:21 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to another user? > Short of disabling the user account you are `su'ing to (or disabling root), no. Root can do anything. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:25:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55301065684 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D388FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so339130eyi.7 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:25:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gEiC13XdXiZL3U0VRBAIGz0iQwn4g+nPDicMMggUMEs=; b=b0gHAi1LxBecOI1aB0VTUOy/v8ZDn5UYzHRp7sN/2NqOZSqINy+VCg0dIF8QbTm4O2 Y96YN1/IUq9U1tjWXVqCiU5OdaNFfTo9Wdh/FffFNNdF6W2DP9zyhIvGETrT0MmK+NTb O6spdLc/iVYRpzi5FBqLiynvqPX38J+IGWNoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DpNPNURTBfT5nbPDOvTeT6//XqFkS2V61Ypt/29NnUUM5yvTz1v0PCVDWfajLXZYGy WMjZUwhSUZt7wGmeqydSLTIbLIEdfOTs+LtjJfQu2cwdMfI+JOcJLsqDcG1bQBIyJVoH lwGuYnNGCZyfSb+bkd/jcBts3Puzyw7T4ZtzI= Received: by 10.210.117.1 with SMTP id p1mr2718514ebc.95.1224872732473; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4432585.home.otenet.gr [79.129.146.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h7sm2612432nfh.4.2008.10.24.11.25.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49021319.7090804@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:25:29 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:25:34 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to another user? > > Jos Chrispijn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Root is supposed to be the almighty god on your machine (i.e. you...). No point trying to limit the abilities of root (especially if physical access is also provided). And seriously, root is a role not a person. If you find yourself trying to limit root's capabilities, you've probably surrendered the root password to the wrong person. If you need to give someone limited root access to a machine, just use security/sudo instead (with a carefully crafted sudoers file). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:41:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D37106567E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian_davis@cox.net) Received: from eastrmpop108.cox.net (eastrmpop108.cox.net [68.230.240.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EB18FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian_davis@cox.net) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081024174552.TBCM22786.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:45:52 -0400 Received: from Compaq-deskpro.Davis.net ([68.102.185.41]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id Whls1a00C0u0owc02hlsRs; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:45:53 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UwWPYhvJAAAA:8 a=tW2YlqjIVRDYnztVwFoA:9 a=h3GQC7R7WV-POmbxZEFycVy09ikA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:45:51 -0500 From: Brian Davis To: "Odhiambo Washington" Message-Id: <20081024124551.85eb708b.brian_davis@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400810220734i3c981038ocae053bc24d44336@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Extract Songs from DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:41:00 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:34:41 +0300 "Odhiambo Washington" wrote: > I bought an original DVD but I cannot play that in my car's audio > player. Is there a tool that I can use to get the songs off the DVD in > WAV format, or even MP3? > If you're looking for graphical tools....I've used dvdrip to rip audio tracks into wav files. Look at the faq at http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ For mp3 encoding I've used k3b or any other frontend graphical tool. /usr/ports/multimedia/dvdrip /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:43:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA221065681 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA188FC24 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: by mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 28561EBBB4; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:13:15 +1030 (CST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on machapuchre.volcano.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=2.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from machapuchre.volcano.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3E2BEBBAE; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:13:14 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <49021742.1010505@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:13:14 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:43:21 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to another user? what kind of question is this? -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 18:46:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3792C1065736 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF6F18FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26966 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2008 18:46:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=NhK09eh6/d1LjvGiF54+ZM7uS9Ef4A5g2vmoUHFwdW52KIzt4XiQWV3bYG6Ide2GdXWlfslOomzK0CG5IzfOoudCW0dzVroO7LN68xZKdLkoCTUvbyeNpNPgdP2kySIELQVma8ZmOKQxLoOkKG+BLqxDIfidDYIz6knYnEZZIFw=; X-YMail-OSG: k3jJBbgVM1nAQdifMkp8trf5Duv0GKkzalUMquDG4gIVpAtiyU2gQDflnaELdfUNGJ9DSpFlyeQZLb1v2S1qG2HVTFn3GyuitKe9uQ.X4I4RRZHyy425Zy2oXTKfsbQJ0jVJUAfdGRAGIuDCi_ufI7Hezw-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:46:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:46:07 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49021319.7090804@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:46:09 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > From: Manolis Kiagias > Subject: Re: root | su > To: "Jos Chrispijn" > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 2:25 PM > Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to > another user? > > > > Jos Chrispijn > > > Root is supposed to be the almighty god on your machine > (i.e. you...). > No point trying to limit the abilities of root (especially > if physical > access is also provided). > And seriously, root is a role not a person. If you find > yourself trying > to limit root's capabilities, you've probably > surrendered the root > password to the wrong person. If you need to give someone > limited root > access to a machine, just use security/sudo instead (with a > carefully > crafted sudoers file). That's one option. Another is to implement jails, or virtualization via something like qemu. Since the person asking didn't give any details of what he wants to do, it's hard to say, but your point is correct regardless. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 19:09:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430E11065679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BF08FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9OJ8gPm025084; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:08:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9OJ8f6q025081; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:08:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:08:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: scuba@centroin.com.br In-Reply-To: <20081024135241.H96427@trex.centroin.com.br> Message-ID: <20081024210817.F25068@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200808191405.m7JE56iq010742@lurza.secnetix.de> <20081024135241.H96427@trex.centroin.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running legacy i386 binaries on a amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:09:00 -0000 > > When I try to run the binaries, the following error message is > displayed: > > ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1 not found > Abort > > I found the following tip to install 32bits libraries: > > cd /usr/src > make build32 > make install32 > ldconfig -32 /usr/lib32 > > Is that enough? > should be. unless there are no needed libs in /usr/lib32 still, then find them and copy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 19:54:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DEB1065670 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A99908FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 25735 invoked by uid 89); 24 Oct 2008 19:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 24 Oct 2008 19:58:44 -0000 Message-ID: <49022805.5030909@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:54:45 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: en0f References: <49020EAD.2070908@webrz.net> <49021742.1010505@bokey.mine.nu> In-Reply-To: <49021742.1010505@bokey.mine.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:54:53 -0000 en0f wrote: > Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> Is there a way of stopping root from su'ing to another user? > > what kind of question is this? Obviously one that brings out of the woodwork the type of people with closed and non-inquisitive minds... probably the type of people who think that they have all of life's questions answered :) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 20:08:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41519106566B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ck@yourserveradmin.com) Received: from tetrahedron.itechcraft.com (tetrahedron.itechcraft.com [72.34.45.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2641F8FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ck@yourserveradmin.com) Received: from dodekaedr.techs.com.ua ([193.109.101.2]:3982 helo=[10.10.10.12]) by tetrahedron.itechcraft.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KtSaj-0000iT-PB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:02 +0300 Message-ID: <490225BB.3050105@yourserveradmin.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:44:59 +0300 From: CK User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - tetrahedron.itechcraft.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - yourserveradmin.com Subject: mpd - lcp protocol rejects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:08:14 -0000 Hello, I'm running mpd 4.4 on 6.3-STABLE #4. Connecting with mpd to my ISP's VPN server running poptop. Everything is ok for some time, and then all of a sudden mpd starts throwing weird protocol rejects to log file and vpn connection stops working. mpd.conf: pptp: new -i ng0 pptp pptp set iface disable on-demand set iface disable proxy-arp set iface enable tcpmssfix set iface up-script /usr/local/etc/mpd4/if_up.sh set iface down-script /usr/local/etc/mpd4/if_down.sh set iface idle 0 set bundle disable multilink set bundle yes compression set bundle disable noretry set bundle enable crypt-reqd set auth authname "login_here" set link accept acfcomp protocomp set link accept chap set link keep-alive 10 60 set link max-redial 0 set link accmap 0x00000000 set ipcp yes vjcomp set ccp yes mppc set ccp yes mpp-compress set ccp no mpp-e40 set ccp yes mpp-e128 set ccp yes mpp-stateless open mpd.links: pptp: set phys type pptp set pptp peer [ISP's vpn serv here] set pptp enable originate set pptp disable incoming set pptp enable windowing And lots of logs: Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] PPTP call successful Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] link: UP event Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] link: origination is local Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: Up event Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x000a0000 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MRU 1460 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM bc85bd60 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x00000000 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM 0b145760 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: SendConfigAck #1 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x00000000 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM 0b145760 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x000a0000 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MRU 1460 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM bc85bd60 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #2 (Ack-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x000a0000 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MRU 1460 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM bc85bd60 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: LayerUp Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #19 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: Name: "pptpd" Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: Using authname "login_here" Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CHAP: sending RESPONSE len:63 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #19 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MESG: S=376C81163CF8923DF663DC2D672D8802BBDAAD3B Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: authorization successful Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] Bundle up: 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: Open event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: LayerStart Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: Open event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Initial --> Starting Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: LayerStart Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: Up event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: IPADDR 192.168.1.2 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: Up event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigReq #1 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000041:MPPC, MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Terminate Ack #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Nak #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigReq #2 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Ack #2 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2 Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: IPADDR 192.168.1.2 Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Terminate Ack #2 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigReq #3 Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Ack #3 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigAck #1 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: LayerUp Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: Compress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: Decompress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, allow comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: IPADDR 172.16.30.42 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: 172.16.30.42 is OK Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigAck #1 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, allow comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: IPADDR 172.16.30.42 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #3 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR 192.168.1.2 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Ack-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR ext_ip Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: ext_ip is OK Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #4 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR ext_ip Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Ack-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR ext_ip Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: LayerUp Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: ext_ip -> 172.16.30.42 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IFACE: Up event Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #2 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x000b was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #3 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0xf679 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #4 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x000f was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #5 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol CRYPT was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] ECP: protocol was rejected by peer Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] ECP: Close event Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #6 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x009f was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #7 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x8683 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #8 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x0073 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #9 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x7e56 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #10 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x56f2 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #11 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x0047 was rejected No errors between up event and protocol rejects. Help... I've found this post http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2003-June/001878.html but patch is for older ng_ppp.c and I do not speak C well enough to write code for kernel modules. Also, saw some other guys having same problems - but no solutions. Maybe community has something to say? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 19:39:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A848F1065670 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruletko@gmail.com) Received: from tazek.iog.org.ua (tazek.iog.org.ua [193.33.49.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62738FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruletko@gmail.com) Received: from [10.10.10.12] (dodekaedr.techs.com.ua [193.109.101.2]) by tazek.iog.org.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68C41141A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:08:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <49021D1D.7060701@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:08:13 +0300 From: CK User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:36:09 +0000 Subject: mpd - lcp protocol rejects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:39:02 -0000 Hello, I'm running mpd 4.4 on 6.3-STABLE #4. Connecting with mpd to my ISP's VPN server running poptop. Everything is ok for some time, and then all of a sudden mpd starts throwing weird protocol rejects to log file and vpn connection stops working. mpd.conf: pptp: new -i ng0 pptp pptp set iface disable on-demand set iface disable proxy-arp set iface enable tcpmssfix set iface up-script /usr/local/etc/mpd4/if_up.sh set iface down-script /usr/local/etc/mpd4/if_down.sh set iface idle 0 set bundle disable multilink set bundle yes compression set bundle disable noretry set bundle enable crypt-reqd set auth authname "login_here" set link accept acfcomp protocomp set link accept chap set link keep-alive 10 60 set link max-redial 0 set link accmap 0x00000000 set ipcp yes vjcomp set ccp yes mppc set ccp yes mpp-compress set ccp no mpp-e40 set ccp yes mpp-e128 set ccp yes mpp-stateless open mpd.links: pptp: set phys type pptp set pptp peer [ISP's vpn serv here] set pptp enable originate set pptp disable incoming set pptp enable windowing And lots of logs: Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] PPTP call successful Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] link: UP event Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] link: origination is local Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: Up event Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x000a0000 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MRU 1460 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM bc85bd60 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x00000000 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM 0b145760 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: SendConfigAck #1 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x00000000 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFTv2 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM 0b145760 Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:10 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x000a0000 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MRU 1460 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM bc85bd60 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Configure Ack #2 (Ack-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACFCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: PROTOCOMP Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: ACCMAP 0x000a0000 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MRU 1460 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MAGICNUM bc85bd60 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: LayerUp Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #19 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: Name: "pptpd" Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: Using authname "login_here" Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CHAP: sending RESPONSE len:63 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #19 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MESG: S=376C81163CF8923DF663DC2D672D8802BBDAAD3B Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: authorization successful Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] Bundle up: 1 link, total bandwidth 64000 bps Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: Open event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: LayerStart Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: Open event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Initial --> Starting Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: LayerStart Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: Up event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: IPADDR 192.168.1.2 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: Up event Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigReq #1 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000041:MPPC, MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Terminate Ack #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Nak #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigReq #2 Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Ack #2 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:12 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2 Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: IPADDR 192.168.1.2 Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Terminate Ack #2 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Req-Sent Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigReq #3 Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Ack #3 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:14 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Ack-Rcvd) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: SendConfigAck #1 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: MPPC Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: 0x01000040:MPPE(128 bits), stateless Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: state change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] CCP: LayerUp Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: Compress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: Decompress using: mppc (MPPE(128 bits), stateless) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Configure Request #1 (Req-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, allow comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: IPADDR 172.16.30.42 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: 172.16.30.42 is OK Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigAck #1 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, allow comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: IPADDR 172.16.30.42 Oct 19 03:06:15 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #3 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR 192.168.1.2 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #3 (Ack-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR ext_ip Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: ext_ip is OK Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: SendConfigReq #4 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR ext_ip Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: rec'd Configure Ack #4 (Ack-Sent) Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: IPADDR ext_ip Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IPCP: LayerUp Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: ext_ip -> 172.16.30.42 Oct 19 03:06:16 tazek mpd: [pptp] IFACE: Up event Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #2 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x000b was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #3 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0xf679 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #4 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x000f was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #5 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol CRYPT was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] ECP: protocol was rejected by peer Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] ECP: Close event Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #6 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x009f was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #7 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x8683 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #8 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x0073 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #9 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x7e56 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #10 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x56f2 was rejected Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: rec'd Protocol Reject #11 (Opened) Oct 19 11:10:26 tazek mpd: [pptp] LCP: protocol 0x0047 was rejected No errors between up event and protocol rejects. Help... I've found this post http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2003-June/001878.html but patch is for older ng_ppp.c and I do not speak C well enough to write code for kernel modules. Also, saw some other guys having same problems - but no solutions. Maybe community has something to say? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 20:38:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB5106567C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CF68FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B27508B0 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD35083C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49023257.9030807@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:38:47 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <49020ED1.20106@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <49020ED1.20106@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ Triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: LIST X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:38:47 -0000 Sorry guys, didn't pay attention on this one. Uit een eerder bericht (24-10-2008 20:07): > LIST > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 20:45:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD784106566C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D35A8FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC56E508B0 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04DA5083C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:04 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ Triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:45:04 -0000 > Since the person asking didn't give any details of what he wants to do, it's hard to say, but your point is correct regardless. The idea behind my question is this: I am responsible for a server on which an(other) idiot keeps loggin in as user root, allthough he has his own user account and is part of the wheel group. To prevent this nub to change any other user account in God mode, I am searching for a solutions on this. jc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 20:48:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139181065671 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A59828FC24 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 27398 invoked by uid 89); 24 Oct 2008 20:51:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 24 Oct 2008 20:51:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4902347E.3070901@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:47:58 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:48:06 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> Since the person asking didn't give any details of what he wants to >> do, it's hard to say, but your point is correct regardless. > > The idea behind my question is this: > I am responsible for a server on which an(other) idiot keeps loggin in > as user root, allthough he has his own user account and is part of the > wheel group. To prevent this nub to change any other user account in God > mode, I am searching for a solutions on this. Instead of using the root account, could you make him use sudo, without the ability to su? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 20:58:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2207C1065684 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE4568FC1B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70443 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2008 20:58:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=u2qqDrjC4Yn1Q8JIw4Q0BlKYXkKtqncGV9xNP56HFahACK69mgVHVtKsShkclVEHq1suV8lPlS1k8p9jsslLf/1qo4L1/ZaDm7ef4SlauSt4ULJ+txFuMFAl45zzIloAhnQaQ5u5cdYUftYem+CzFN7OpajtAAcAtuAm45x9avA=; X-YMail-OSG: LGwaRIgVM1lDcu47Yef3j2C5.bcv_HqUn0wsmHKJlNUrS4FzeLZ0yXPHLhAmOwlW82.294iyk9dVnGOQBcy7Jfhpydlz8_WlOr3PbI92CbtAUAdenDjZ2Ix4FuARrKStvkybpmPVcSlyjQSVd4cSJGo06w-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:58:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:58:30 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <956261.69683.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:58:32 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > From: Jos Chrispijn > Subject: Re: root | su > To: > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 4:45 PM > > Since the person asking didn't give any details of > what he wants to do, it's hard to say, but your point is > correct regardless. > > The idea behind my question is this: > I am responsible for a server on which an(other) idiot > keeps loggin in > as user root, allthough he has his own user account and is > part of the > wheel group. To prevent this nub to change any other user > account in God > mode, I am searching for a solutions on this. Disable direct access via whatever remote access method you use as root. Thus the other individual will have to login as themself, and su to root. If you do not wish them to su to root, change the root password. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 21:14:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1C61065672 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108D78FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WfGp1a00916AWCUA3lEk6X; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:14:44 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WlEj1a00W2P6wsM8SlEklX; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:14:44 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=jiaT1PY-Q486NTZ1h2wA:9 a=Kl3W8mr-U7ulAHZK5ZgA:7 a=fSMGoMnvErQ9h8a2Y120ykdo0YsA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6C8C0C9419; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:14:43 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: <20081024211443.GA18056@icarus.home.lan> References: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:14:45 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:45:04PM +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> Since the person asking didn't give any details of what he wants to do, >> it's hard to say, but your point is correct regardless. > > The idea behind my question is this: > I am responsible for a server on which an(other) idiot keeps loggin in > as user root, allthough he has his own user account and is part of the > wheel group. To prevent this nub to change any other user account in God > mode, I am searching for a solutions on this. You're trying to solve a social (possibly personal?) problem with technology. Simply put, this is a bad idea. I would highly recommend you either talk to "the idiot" and explain to him why what he's doing is improper or foolish, or simply pull his root access entirely. If this is a work-related incident, talk to your boss about it if at all possible (but see below). If you call the shots, simply yank their access. Here's you a story, maybe to lighten up my above criticism. I hope you enjoy it. Back in the early-to-mid-90s I worked at a small ISP in Palo Alto as a combination junior SA (sans root) and phone support monkey. There were two people who had root access on the FreeBSD boxes: one fellow was a clueful, friendly, and very technical UNIX system administrator (also partial owner), and another fellow (also partial owner) who was a complete tool -- imagine Dilbert's boss with basic UNIX CLI and "how to plug in Ethernet" knowledge. One day, we got some phone calls from customers stating they were having authentication dial-up problems or something (I can't remember). I didn't have root access to determine what the problem was, so I called up the UNIX SA and told him what was going on. He sighed, then agreed to take a look. About 15 minutes later he called back stating he'd fixed it. The next day, we started getting calls from customers again -- same issue. I called the SA ("didn't you fix this yesterday?!?!"), he sighed again, and 15 minutes later had it fixed. I asked what the deal was, and all he said was "I'll explain it next time I'm in the office". A few weeks later I saw him and reminded him of the incident. The other individual who had root -- who also just happened to be my boss -- had gotten on the box in the middle of the night and decided to basically "screw with things", telling no one. After the UNIX SA had fixed things the first time, that night my boss went back and screwed with things a second time, leaving things in a completely broken state again -- and like before, told no one. "How is this even possible?" I asked. The SA explained that he had worked with my boss at previous jobs, and "he was known for doing this sort of thing", hence the sighing. I believe his words were "Whenever something crazy would happen to the systems at , we'd almost always find traces of having logged in and modified seemingly random config files, broke things, and left them that way. He'd often do this at absurd hours of the night, almost as if he didn't want someone catching him in the process". I asked how he dealt with the situation, and he said "At the previous job? His root access was eventually removed, as it was the only way. At this job? Well, let's just say the Email conversation is quite heated and will soon be involving the guys who financially back us". Food for thought. Cheers! -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 21:59:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9541F1065683 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DD88FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0196B508B0 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:59:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98485083C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:59:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4902453C.3010009@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:59:24 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490233D0.8040707@webrz.net> <20081024211443.GA18056@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081024211443.GA18056@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ Triton.webrz.net Subject: [SOLVED] Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:59:25 -0000 > You're trying to solve a social (possibly personal?) problem with > technology. Simply put, this is a bad idea. > Yep, I think that is .true. > I would highly recommend you either talk to "the idiot" and explain to > him why what he's doing is improper or foolish, or simply pull his root > access entirely. If this is a work-related incident, talk to your boss > about it if at all possible (but see below). If you call the shots, > simply yank their access. > The idiot is the boss himself and acts like an unguided missile. Just investigating before I give him a wake-up call. And that is exactly what I will do... > Food for thought. Cheers! > Love it, thanks for sharing (everyone)! jc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 22:13:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FF9106569C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFEB8FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9OMB37m087553; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:11:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9OMB3OY087552; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:11:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:11:03 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Joey Mingrone Message-ID: <20081024221103.GB87295@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:13:56 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 01:29:18PM -0300, Joey Mingrone wrote: > Hi, > > My laptop "died" recently and to get back to work as quickly as > possible I simply took the laptop ide drive and put it into an old > desktop using a 2.5" -> 3.5" ide adapter. After loading a few new > drivers into the kernel everything is working quite well. > > The next thing I've tried to do, without success, is mirror the > contents of the 2.5" drive to a 3.5" drive in the desktop. > > The 2.5" drive is sliced/partitioned like this: > > Filesystem Size Mounted on > /dev/ad0s2a 989M / > /dev/ad0s2d 989M /tmp > /dev/ad0s2f 59G /usr > /dev/ad0s2e 989M /var > > ad0s1 is a 20GB slice that I have window installed on. > > The drive's total capacity is 80G. > > The 3.5" drive is only 70G so I'll have to skip the ad0s1 slice. > Ideally what I'd like to do is copy everything from the ad0s2 slice to > the 3.5" and run the OS off that drive. Then, each dump the contents > of the 3.5" drive to the 2.5" drive. That way if either drive dies > I'll, hopefully at worst, just have to switch which drive I boot from. > > Can anyone with experience doing something this make suggestions? Are you saying that you have 70GB available on the 3.5" drive? So the 64 GB of the 2.5" drive (not counting the MS part) will fit? It is going to be really tight, but it should be doable. Maybe you can actually trim that /usr partition down a little if it isn't full. To do all of what you want (according to what you say here) you will either have to use a fixit CD boot or multiple passes with the current disks. Presuming you will just nuke that MS part, you can do the following. (you might actually be able to use a utility such as gpart or Partition Magic to squeeze that MS slice down enough to keep it if you want if /usr is not very full, or you can just leave it alone where it is) It sounds like you are currently booting from the 2.5" drive from the laptop. If that is true, you only need two major steps. First, you will need to be able to put both drives in to the desktop machine and mount their filesystems (except the ms part). Lets say, when you finally get that accomplished, that they device name out as: 2.5" MS slice = ad0s1 2.5" FreeBSD slice = ad0s2 3.5" Old drive = ad1 If the names come out differently, then you will have to adjust. Boot the system up on the 2.5" drive. Wipe and initialize the 3.5" disk with fdisk. Doing a dd to it first might make it go more smoothly. It may not be needed. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1000 fdisk fdisk -BI ad1 That fdisk initializes it and puts on an MBR - the standard FreeBSD one. This form makes it all in one large slice - so it creates ad1s1 Now, use bsdlabel to create the partition table and write the boot block on it. bsdlabel -w -B ad1s1 The boot block is where the system jumps from the MBR when you select to boot that slice (if there is only one slice, there is no selection, it just goes there after doing MBR stuff). Now, edit the partition table in slice one to have the partitions you want. bsdlabel -e ad1s1 This will bring up an edit screen - probably in vi unless you have set your main editor to something else. In that screen, it will show only the c: partition as containing the whole space and marked unused and a note to 'don't edit'. It will look something like this: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 78316875 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit Do not change the c partition line. But, the easiest way to make new lines is to copy it. In vi do that by putting the cursor on it and hitting dd then hitting p enough times for the number of copies you want (6 times in this case). One thing you didn't mention was swap. It is normal to make the 'b' partition be swap space. Maybe you left that out because it doesn't show up in a df. But, your system needs it. So, then change the first line to be an a partition. Make it a BSD4.2 type. Make the second line a b partition and change its type to swap Make your d, e and f partition lines. The offset for both the c and the a partions should be 0 After that you don't have to worry, because newer versions of bsdlabel (and the previous disklabel) will calculate the offsets for you. It will also calculate the size of the last partition if you want it to be a catch all for the amount of space that remains. (Usually one makes that the largest one then) To get it to do the calculations, just put an asterisk in the field. Note: the sizes are given in 512 byte blocks. You can use others such as 1G or 1024M for 1GB, but I find this easier to keep track of. It should look something like the following. This example makes r00t, swap, tmp, var all be 1GB and usr (part f) get all the rest. 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 2097152 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 32776 b: 2097152 * swap c: 78316875 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 2097152 * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 e: 2097152 * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 f: * * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 When you are finally done fixing up the partition table, do a write/quite in the editor ESC:wq in vi and it will write the partition table for you. Following that, you need to newfs all the new partitions except the swap (and of course c). newfs /dev/ad1s1a probably the defaults on newfs are just fine. Although more recent fdisk and bsdlabel let you skip the /dev/ prefix to the device name, the latest version I currently have of newfs still requires the full device name. It would be a good idea to do an fsck on each of the mountable partitions at this point. Then you need to copy over the filesystems. Don't bother with /tmp, and of course, swap. Create mount points and mount the filesystems. mkdir newroot mkdir newvar mkdir newusr mount /dev/ad1s1a /newroot mount /dev/ad1s1e /newvar mount /dev/ad1s1f /newusr Use dump piped to restore to copy the file systems. It is a good idea to do this part in single user mode so you can reboot to single. You can do it without, but it a file should change during that time, it will not get copied properly. Mostly that is a fairly small risk. If you reboot to single user, you have to make sure things are clean and mounted. So, at the prompt, do: fsck -p mount -u / mount -a swapon -a mount /dev/ad1s1a /newroot mount /dev/ad1s1e /newvar mount /dev/ad1s1f /newusr In either case, then do: cd /newroot dump 0af - / | restore -rf - cd /newvar dump 0af - /var | restore -rf - cd /newusr dump 0af - /usr | restore -rf - At this point you should have a bootable copy of your 2.5" drive on your 3.5" drive. Try switching them around so the 3.5" drive is in the mount position and boot it up and see what happens. It has worked for me and I don't think I left anything out. I do different partitions and sizes, but otherwise it is the same. You can just make the new mount points on the 3.5" drive while it is booted and rm -rf * each of the file systems on the 2.5" drive to clean them out and then do the dump/restore back to the 2.5" drive. You will have to contend with some files that are chflags-ed that you will have to clear before being able to nuke them. Of course, all of this will have to be done as root. But, I would suggest that you might rather go to a store and buy up a decently large USB hard drive and use it for your backups, rather than going back and forth with these drives. If you can manage to get both working in the machine, then just use both of them and use the USB for backups. Have fun, ////jerry > > Thanks, > > Joey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 23:06:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EC71065679 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1198FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so717063rne.12 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=YbpCoA9b2AFaU4R3HK2QP7/vTlYaxlM4uOsFMI0VWu0=; b=b/4y0q48IyjQOOvZl5xZXAJpgQ0StCOGzlKpVDakKRhCoCEH09Gx4pqvsA1hKFJ7MI 4ixBgXIj+RbAxKqXjRuEXgV/WbibigvypKiH7pU/Idw83ZJRn9U/TjNv2iy79zpUDD3q TghdzhxvEgsjg2qD5+oi7bkOqOhXqHL1cUSJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UdxW4uzhAHRcIL7JjIXHw4JvxoPNeyMpuTH9gdwq3RmsscziRJwFSSbInsoO7i06Ym XUPrlM8sus5/yiClRVRnIH8LusJQdSEvpk3hIzQ+rV/QiCnBnpt+gAx9qraqr5LRPYeV aGjDIK5eAX/Q62UXsCFC2fSVL0XIr5a1HS9Qk= Received: by 10.100.140.15 with SMTP id n15mr3476471and.111.1224889604752; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.121.18 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:06:44 -0200 From: luizbcampos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt ="input output error" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:06:46 -0000 I tried to mount my data CD by using "mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0/mnt and I got input ,output error . And now From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 23:09:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A1F1065675 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4A68FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WaM01a0050vp7WLA5n9DZ9; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:09:13 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Wn9B1a0082P6wsM8Rn9B8d; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:09:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=k4BEKBQsgiIdX14XQEAA:9 a=r0zPDsqf3gIqePslpsMA:7 a=yiihlJYnxD8D7xloV1hkbUCqP8AA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F1B1C9419; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:09:11 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Mark Jacobs Message-ID: <20081024230911.GA33151@icarus.home.lan> References: <49020DC1.4060205@custserv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49020DC1.4060205@custserv.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Drive Disconnection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:09:13 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:02:41PM -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: > I have an external Lacie 1Tb drive attached to a FreeBSD 6.4-PRERELEASE > system via an ESATA connection. > > atapci0: > > I cleaned off the drive by writing random data to it. The write took > overnight and didn't experience any problems. I then added a filesystem > to the drive and mounted it on the system. > > However when I perform an rsync backup from a FreeBSD 7.1 PRERELEASE > system to the drive over an NFS connection the drive disconnects and the > server reboots. You've not provided enough information to help track this down. What model/brand of disk is attached to that controller? What does smartctl -a have to say about the disk? What gets printed on the console before it reboots? Do you have the same problem if you run 7.1-PRERELEASE/BETA2? > Does anyone have an idea where to go from here? The only generic advice I can give you at this point) is to avoid Silicon Image controllers, particularly their SATA controllers. They have a history of causing data corruption on Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows, and some have reported other miscellaneous problems with them as well. There's not enough evidence in this thread so far to blame the SiI controller, but when I see them, I become immediately suspicious. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 23:22:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE301065672 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEBA8FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so948900fkk.11 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:22:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=b9GKBIs/MrHVqPE7LJzMMZsUpiD/6z0qI64gml73tS4=; b=aeju7HV0VxIyVV+68varh9N3Spp93bDuJlIOQrNQT0AFLiplpcZcxwZUEeblpMgwHU Y2DclOyb6J43Szz03snmOxmkXp04TJm6PnHAgl78gC9HWmUM29lWslY889xXqljQDHFV 3YoTrpSoFeV63idfFA03zGaJ7d0jUxFkGkNPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qtKqew0Uqc+uVG2aLINl8F5TV/Si2kLHflvyh5aKT/tNo2v7K5KRYQ5bo0a9hQsWRs syFwmVDz6YqO5iTDVB7eqtuTxdky9tX77JEDcJjDzwjq1LfRGp5Ul+hyqyRyPlxmItv+ F2BpjOAzfLA9+EdKBXBiaXInqiOEtUnZhHv3s= Received: by 10.187.188.19 with SMTP id q19mr232188fap.30.1224890534499; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ad871310810241622g12cd1f04xbdd6640806e9831c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:22:14 -0400 From: "Glen Barber" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <4ad871310810241621s2790d604t5d3c6b9141120efb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810212242.46534.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> <200810240325.19356.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> <4ad871310810240622w4803e1ecgdf650ab05724eb22@mail.gmail.com> <200810241602.42067.replay@sdf.lonestar.org> <4ad871310810241621s2790d604t5d3c6b9141120efb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Trouble Shutting down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:22:17 -0000 ** Forgot to CC the list, in case anyone is actually watching this thread.** > > Theirs nothing in the /etc/X11 folder or a xorg.conf file, I think Xorg > automatically did everything > Well, if you say you ran 'X -configure', it should've created an xorg.conf file. If you ran it as root (which you almost probably had to), check in /root >From what you've told me before, I can pretty well guess that you don't have your necessary Xorg drivers installed for your graphics card. I suggest reading the manual on how to resolve this -- but don't expect miracles as far as ATI goes. If you don't know how to manage Xorg, I doubt you should be running -CURRENT. -- Glen Barber -- Glen Barber 570.328.0318 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 23:31:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D40B1065685 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5B98FC1B for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D335116C0048; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:31:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9ONV4vK002718; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:31:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:31:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: luizbcampos Message-Id: <20081025013104.99411ca9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt ="input output error" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:31:07 -0000 On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:06:44 -0200, luizbcampos wrote: > I tried to mount my data CD by using "mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0/mnt > and I got input ,output error . And now (1) Did you try # mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt to check the correct working of the drive, just in case it is a ATAPI drive? If it's a SCSI drive, /dev/cd0 is completely correct. (2) Does the CD contain a data track? # cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0 info Did you check this (for redundancy) on another machine? The error message "input output error" usually indicates an error of this kind. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 24 23:50:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD05106566B; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453728FC0C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAM/4AUl5LaeE/2dsb2JhbACBdsAvg08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,481,1220193000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="239427316" Received: from ppp121-45-167-132.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO midget.dons.net.au) ([121.45.167.132]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 25 Oct 2008 10:05:21 +1030 Received: from inchoate.dons.net.au (Inchoate.dons.net.au [10.0.2.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by midget.dons.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9ONZI5l018075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:05:18 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:58:04 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6130417.c3uBpPzu6d"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200810250958.15130.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.906 () BAYES_00,SPF_FAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 10.0.2.7 Cc: Alexander Sack , Peter Jeremy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:50:40 -0000 --nextPart6130417.c3uBpPzu6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote: > >this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it > >can't work > > rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily tries = to=20 link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable results.. One trick I use for that is to put a symlink in /compat/linux in the place = the=20 problematic FreeBSD library is.. That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible libraries :) =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart6130417.c3uBpPzu6d Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBJAloP5ZPcIHs/zowRAisRAJ9jgqSxkyHKIbBfaT9ljWoFizmR5gCgo5lt +1NM25mggxvIOlXthJmB+h4= =Akc8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6130417.c3uBpPzu6d-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 00:12:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F921065673 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) Received: from mail70.messagelabs.com (mail70.messagelabs.com [193.109.255.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 871158FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: mark.jacobs@custserv.com X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-70.messagelabs.com!1224891921!107344643!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [209.251.196.62] Received: (qmail 30941 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2008 23:45:21 -0000 Received: from ipcbfbnat.timeinc.com (HELO LONMSGSM02.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com) (209.251.196.62) by server-11.tower-70.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2008 23:45:21 -0000 Received: from LONMSGBH01.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com ([10.132.123.10]) by LONMSGSM02.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:44:44 +0100 Received: from TMPMSGBH01.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com ([10.176.44.43]) by LONMSGBH01.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:44:44 +0100 Received: from TMPMSGMB03.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com ([10.176.44.51]) by TMPMSGBH01.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:44:41 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:44:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Drive Disconnection Thread-Index: Ack2LYj9gFc8/U3YRui/SgAVB3BGYgAAuag+ References: <49020DC1.4060205@custserv.com> <20081024230911.GA33151@icarus.home.lan> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2008 23:44:41.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C09EDE0:01C93632] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Drive Disconnection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:12:04 -0000 It is a Lacie d2 quadra drive but FreeBSD reports this; server kernel: ad4: 953869MB at = ata2-master SATA150 When I perform the RSYNC I receive these errors Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - device detached Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: subdisk4: detached Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: ad4: detached Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: = g_vfs_done():ad4s1a[WRITE(offset=3D144332767232, length=3D131072)]error = =3D 6 Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: = g_vfs_done():ad4s1a[WRITE(offset=3D144332898304, length=3D131072)]error = =3D 6 The write failure messages keep on being issued until the server = reboots. It isn't in the log, but I receive a dirty buffer panic. I don't have easy access to a 7.1 system with an ESATA port. I'm current redoing the entire process, wipe, build filesystem, mount, = rsync using the USB port. If that works I'm going to junk the idea of = using the ESATA card for the drive. Can you recommend an ESATA card that fits in an PCI slot since my server = doesn't have a PCI-E slot? Mark Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 7:09 PM To: Jacobs, Mark - Data Center Operations Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Drive Disconnection =20 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:02:41PM -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: > I have an external Lacie 1Tb drive attached to a FreeBSD = 6.4-PRERELEASE > system via an ESATA connection. >=20 > atapci0: >=20 > I cleaned off the drive by writing random data to it. The write took > overnight and didn't experience any problems. I then added a = filesystem > to the drive and mounted it on the system. >=20 > However when I perform an rsync backup from a FreeBSD 7.1 PRERELEASE > system to the drive over an NFS connection the drive disconnects and = the > server reboots. You've not provided enough information to help track this down. What model/brand of disk is attached to that controller? What does smartctl -a have to say about the disk? What gets printed on the console before it reboots? Do you have the same problem if you run 7.1-PRERELEASE/BETA2? > Does anyone have an idea where to go from here? The only generic advice I can give you at this point) is to avoid Silicon Image controllers, particularly their SATA controllers. They have a history of causing data corruption on Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows, and some have reported other miscellaneous problems with them as well. There's not enough evidence in this thread so far to blame the SiI controller, but when I see them, I become immediately suspicious. --=20 | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 00:48:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AC1065672 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f15.google.com (mail-gx0-f15.google.com [209.85.217.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0038FC17 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so390970gxk.19 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:48:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=DjTcIo8b+wXf7n11hOHsYIXJ2/o4z7o76eA2VXlzRPI=; b=bZhIe8mBVDcTpIlV9ykwbPyIrNnDKTORU+jjXtrXQ41X+crKX+BC/2NMUfFJog5YpQ +HOiWrJomChiSMTHV7qEVDAWWrbGXADkM8A5bNdNh1NzNSGRnPTnxKB0wL/RUMFMP4C0 dS3/Qr29B4gAyrnpZgHwh4k7SVSUwx76mLmbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=IFbjy+iY+ccaFtjz0ZfDy78trz4umcBDVqEi0GLIpmmPibqxASlmtiNLYclilBfOQn s6OpMkU3Z+m6MbvO9aQY01O3dfYxn+Mm21An52rI57iKST6Qy9QOn975CW4VgWXtPZnb DXqsjBJq0PQbr5TrmPn2SSmTLS7mL3oQA7hnY= Received: by 10.64.201.16 with SMTP id y16mr3309735qbf.67.1224895712054; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ansarmm2 (206-248-188-123.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.188.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm1346982qba.3.2008.10.24.17.48.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:48:29 -0400 Message-ID: <012301c9363b$66ab6a10$34023e30$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Ack2O2Xh6z20BHkVTe6mU+45BldjeA== Content-Language: en-ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: tape format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:48:33 -0000 Hello all Does anyone know if the tape format produced by Seagate backup is documented? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 00:50:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3010D106566C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3B=16fc27ba@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035408FC1D for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3B=16fc27ba@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4B116404A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CC4D0A2C for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:33:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081025013323.5483e265@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:50:13 -0000 On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK > "The best way is to reinstall the OS on the new disk, then move the user data over. This is highly recommended if you have been tracking -STABLE for more than one release, or have updated a release instead of installing a new one." "Highly recommended" seems a very strange thing for the FAQ to be saying. It's implying that FreeBSD base-system upgrades are a bit flaky. It even goes on "Should you decide not to do a fresh install", as if to say "you have been warned". Unless my experience is abnormal, we seem to be publishing our own FUD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 01:10:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D405C1065670 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A7F8FC1D for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF1A68034541; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AOud72UnCVkX; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C1BDE68034540; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:10:29 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081025011029.GB22916@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <012301c9363b$66ab6a10$34023e30$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <012301c9363b$66ab6a10$34023e30$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 OpenPKG/% (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: tape format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:10:30 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008, Ansar Mohammed wrote: >Hello all > >Does anyone know if the tape format produced by Seagate backup is >documented? You might get a hint using ``file /dev/tapedevice'' which should show if it's a tar, cpio, or whatever archive. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some vile disease. Disraeli replied, "That all depends upon whether I embrace your principles or your mistress". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 01:15:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9919106569B for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700B28FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WoMG1a0020SCNGk54pF5GU; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:15:05 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WpF41a00C2P6wsM3VpF5iD; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:15:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DABue8mZAAAA:8 a=En-2NEdeAAAA:8 a=Ou8-nDE8AAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=dQFju7DMmhnqV_tzSjYA:9 a=9bTcxGkqStUTFYDVhY8A:7 a=0hSKYW-K9HsGYCaq0hR_fWcIGb4A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=sfsKo20co30A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6407EC941C; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:15:04 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: mark.jacobs@custserv.com Message-ID: <20081025011504.GA47577@icarus.home.lan> References: <49020DC1.4060205@custserv.com> <20081024230911.GA33151@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Drive Disconnection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:15:07 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:44:41PM -0400, mark.jacobs@custserv.com wrote: > It is a Lacie d2 quadra drive but FreeBSD reports this; > server kernel: ad4: 953869MB at ata2-master SATA150 > > When I perform the RSYNC I receive these errors > > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - device detached > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: subdisk4: detached > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: ad4: detached > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: g_vfs_done():ad4s1a[WRITE(offset=144332767232, length=131072)]error = 6 > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: g_vfs_done():ad4s1a[WRITE(offset=144332898304, length=131072)]error = 6 > The write failure messages keep on being issued until the server reboots. It isn't in the log, but I receive a dirty buffer panic. It appears the disk is literally falling off of the SATA bus. The g_vfs_done errors you see are a result of that. I'll explain the reboot in a moment. There could be tons of reasons for the disk disappearing. I'll list off some the possibilities that come to mind: * Drive losing power - Shoddiness inside of the d2 Quadra enclosure, such as bad internal cabling or manufacturing defects, - AC adapter for d2 Quadra is faulty, - d2 Quadra could offer some kind of "sleep mode" where the unit goes into a low-power-save state, and the disk ends up falling off the bus during this time. * SATA300 vs. SATA150 compatibility issues - VIA and SiS chipsets are known to experience data corruption, disks falling off the bus, or other insanity when SATA300 disks are connected to those chipsets. The chipsets support SATA300, but are downright buggy. Workaround is to force the drive to SATA150 speed using jumpers on the disk (only *some* manufacturers offer this), - The Hitachi disk in your d2 Quadra is spec'd at SATA300, while it's obvious your Silicon Image SATA controller is only detecting SATA150 (yet LaCie claims this enclosure does SATA300). The 7K1000 series drives *do not* have a force-SATA150 jumper (I've checked), which is too bad, since forcing SATA150 might fix the problem. * d2 Quadra USB/FW/eSATA controller bug - I have no idea what chip is inside of that enclosure, but many of them are "bridges", e.g. they're USB/FW controllers that have a horribly shoddy "SATA emulation" interface on top of them, - Could be a firmware bug with the controller used in the enclosure, - Controller may not be 100% compatible with Silicon Image devices. * Silicon Image SATA controller bugs As for why the system reboots: what you're experiencing is probably a kernel panic. On FreeBSD, when you have a filesystem that's mounted and the underlying device (disk, etc.) is yanked out from underneath, the kernel will panic; this is by design. I've been told by lower-level folks that CURRENT supposedly addresses this issue, but I haven't personally confirmed it. I would still like to see SMART stats on the drive. Why? Because SMART stats will show me if the drive is actually losing power or not (the Power_Cycle_Count attribute should increment). You'll need to install ports/sysutils/smartmontools, then run "smartctl -a /dev/ad4". Save that data somewhere, then run your rsync. Your machine will reboot (a soft reset, hopefully!), and once it's back up, run the same smartctl command again, and save that data. Then you can compare the adjusted attributes and RAW_VALUEs; I can help you with reading this data if need be (people often misread it). > I don't have easy access to a 7.1 system with an ESATA port. That's disappointing, as it would be useful to know if 7.1-PRERELEASE behaves the same way for you. Based on the above I'd say it probably does, but it's always good to check. > I'm current redoing the entire process, wipe, build filesystem, mount, > rsync using the USB port. If that works I'm going to junk the idea of > using the ESATA card for the drive. I would _highly_ recommend you reconsider this. USB on FreeBSD is in an even worse state (and I am not exaggerating) than ATA/SATA is. If your disk is falling off the bus with SATA, the same will likely happen with USB, and you'll experience the same problem. > Can you recommend an ESATA card that fits in an PCI slot since my > server doesn't have a PCI-E slot? Promise makes the SATA300 TX4302 controller, which is PCI, and provides two eSATA ports, plus two internal SATA ports. I believe this card goes for US$70-100. Promise's website (for me) appears to be malfunctioning (webserver answers, but stalls indefinitely), so I can't easily check their products list. I don't think HighPoint makes any eSATA-capable controllers that are standard PCI or PCI-X; all appear to be PCI Express. If your motherboard has on-board SATA support that *does not* use a Silicon Image, VIA, or SiS chip and instead something like an Intel ICH or nVidia nForce controller, I would recommend buying something like this and using it instead: http://www.icydock.com/product/MB559power_bracket.html http://www.cooldrives.com/essaii3gbexp.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119021 Finally, and I don't know if you're doing this, but -- be aware you can't "hot-swap" disks via eSATA without having a hot-swap-capable controller that fully supports hot-swapping. Meaning: you can't yank that d2 Quadra enclosure off the eSATA port whenever you feel like it. You'll need to use "atacontrol detach" to properly detach it first, and that's assuming the SATA controller you're using supports hot-swapping (things with AHCI behave fairly well in this regard). > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 7:09 PM > To: Jacobs, Mark - Data Center Operations > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Drive Disconnection > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:02:41PM -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: > > I have an external Lacie 1Tb drive attached to a FreeBSD 6.4-PRERELEASE > > system via an ESATA connection. > > > > atapci0: > > > > I cleaned off the drive by writing random data to it. The write took > > overnight and didn't experience any problems. I then added a filesystem > > to the drive and mounted it on the system. > > > > However when I perform an rsync backup from a FreeBSD 7.1 PRERELEASE > > system to the drive over an NFS connection the drive disconnects and the > > server reboots. > > You've not provided enough information to help track this down. What > model/brand of disk is attached to that controller? What does smartctl > -a have to say about the disk? What gets printed on the console before > it reboots? Do you have the same problem if you run > 7.1-PRERELEASE/BETA2? > > > Does anyone have an idea where to go from here? > > The only generic advice I can give you at this point) is to avoid > Silicon Image controllers, particularly their SATA controllers. They > have a history of causing data corruption on Linux, FreeBSD, and > Windows, and some have reported other miscellaneous problems with them > as well. There's not enough evidence in this thread so far to blame the > SiI controller, but when I see them, I become immediately suspicious. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 01:34:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C4C1065679 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD998FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD32B5C22 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:37:10 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <490277B6.7010602@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:34:46 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Where are Lock Order Reversals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:34:46 -0000 Aloha, Loading a FreeBSD 8 Current I get Lock Order Reversals. There used to be a site for looking into them. What do we do now? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 01:39:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA1C1065675 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) Received: from mail190.messagelabs.com (mail190.messagelabs.com [216.82.249.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC3818FC17 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: mark.jacobs@custserv.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-190.messagelabs.com!1224898775!69522845!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [64.236.226.113] Received: (qmail 28518 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2008 01:39:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO TMPMSGSM01.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com) (64.236.226.113) by server-10.tower-190.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 25 Oct 2008 01:39:35 -0000 Received: from TMPMSGMB03.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com ([10.176.44.51]) by TMPMSGSM01.enterprise.corpad.timeinc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:39:35 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:39:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Drive Disconnection Thread-Index: Ack2Px/9k4KPAXzkRXyovbBMeArlYAAApYiF References: <49020DC1.4060205@custserv.com> <20081024230911.GA33151@icarus.home.lan> <20081025011504.GA47577@icarus.home.lan> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2008 01:39:35.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[89122920:01C93642] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Drive Disconnection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:39:37 -0000 Thanks for all the great information. I'm going to try the USB solution = for now since the drive was running fine for several months on this = server w/USB until I began playing with the ESATA connection.=20 If perchance USB doesn't work I will try both getting the SMART status = from the drive and getting a better SATA controller. Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service, Tampa FL (Go Rays) -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 9:15 PM To: Jacobs, Mark - Data Center Operations Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Drive Disconnection =20 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:44:41PM -0400, mark.jacobs@custserv.com = wrote: > It is a Lacie d2 quadra drive but FreeBSD reports this; > server kernel: ad4: 953869MB at = ata2-master SATA150 >=20 > When I perform the RSYNC I receive these errors >=20 > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: ad4: FAILURE - device detached > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: subdisk4: detached > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: ad4: detached > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: = g_vfs_done():ad4s1a[WRITE(offset=3D144332767232, length=3D131072)]error = =3D 6 > Oct 24 12:47:13 server kernel: = g_vfs_done():ad4s1a[WRITE(offset=3D144332898304, length=3D131072)]error = =3D 6 > The write failure messages keep on being issued until the server = reboots. It isn't in the log, but I receive a dirty buffer panic. It appears the disk is literally falling off of the SATA bus. The g_vfs_done errors you see are a result of that. I'll explain the reboot in a moment. There could be tons of reasons for the disk disappearing. I'll list off some the possibilities that come to mind: * Drive losing power - Shoddiness inside of the d2 Quadra enclosure, such as bad internal cabling or manufacturing defects, - AC adapter for d2 Quadra is faulty, - d2 Quadra could offer some kind of "sleep mode" where the unit goes into a low-power-save state, and the disk ends up falling off the bus during this time. * SATA300 vs. SATA150 compatibility issues - VIA and SiS chipsets are known to experience data corruption, disks falling off the bus, or other insanity when SATA300 disks are connected to those chipsets. The chipsets support SATA300, but are downright buggy. Workaround is to force the drive to SATA150 speed using jumpers on the disk (only *some* manufacturers offer this), - The Hitachi disk in your d2 Quadra is spec'd at SATA300, while it's obvious your Silicon Image SATA controller is only detecting SATA150 (yet LaCie claims this enclosure does SATA300). The 7K1000 series drives *do not* have a force-SATA150 jumper (I've checked), which is too bad, since forcing SATA150 might fix the problem. * d2 Quadra USB/FW/eSATA controller bug - I have no idea what chip is inside of that enclosure, but many of them are "bridges", e.g. they're USB/FW controllers that have a horribly shoddy "SATA emulation" interface on top of them, - Could be a firmware bug with the controller used in the enclosure, - Controller may not be 100% compatible with Silicon Image devices. * Silicon Image SATA controller bugs As for why the system reboots: what you're experiencing is probably a kernel panic. On FreeBSD, when you have a filesystem that's mounted and the underlying device (disk, etc.) is yanked out from underneath, the kernel will panic; this is by design. I've been told by lower-level folks that CURRENT supposedly addresses this issue, but I haven't personally confirmed it. I would still like to see SMART stats on the drive. Why? Because SMART stats will show me if the drive is actually losing power or not (the Power_Cycle_Count attribute should increment). You'll need to install ports/sysutils/smartmontools, then run "smartctl -a /dev/ad4". Save that data somewhere, then run your rsync. Your machine will reboot (a soft reset, hopefully!), and once it's back up, run the same smartctl command again, and save that data. Then you can compare the adjusted attributes and RAW_VALUEs; I can help you with reading this data if need be (people often misread it). > I don't have easy access to a 7.1 system with an ESATA port. That's disappointing, as it would be useful to know if 7.1-PRERELEASE behaves the same way for you. Based on the above I'd say it probably does, but it's always good to check. > I'm current redoing the entire process, wipe, build filesystem, mount, > rsync using the USB port. If that works I'm going to junk the idea of > using the ESATA card for the drive. I would _highly_ recommend you reconsider this. USB on FreeBSD is in an even worse state (and I am not exaggerating) than ATA/SATA is. If your disk is falling off the bus with SATA, the same will likely happen with USB, and you'll experience the same problem. > Can you recommend an ESATA card that fits in an PCI slot since my > server doesn't have a PCI-E slot? Promise makes the SATA300 TX4302 controller, which is PCI, and provides two eSATA ports, plus two internal SATA ports. I believe this card goes for US$70-100. Promise's website (for me) appears to be malfunctioning (webserver answers, but stalls indefinitely), so I can't easily check their products list. I don't think HighPoint makes any eSATA-capable controllers that are standard PCI or PCI-X; all appear to be PCI Express. If your motherboard has on-board SATA support that *does not* use a Silicon Image, VIA, or SiS chip and instead something like an Intel ICH or nVidia nForce controller, I would recommend buying something like this and using it instead: http://www.icydock.com/product/MB559power_bracket.html http://www.cooldrives.com/essaii3gbexp.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16812119021 Finally, and I don't know if you're doing this, but -- be aware you can't "hot-swap" disks via eSATA without having a hot-swap-capable controller that fully supports hot-swapping. Meaning: you can't yank that d2 Quadra enclosure off the eSATA port whenever you feel like it. You'll need to use "atacontrol detach" to properly detach it first, and that's assuming the SATA controller you're using supports hot-swapping (things with AHCI behave fairly well in this regard). > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org] > Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 7:09 PM > To: Jacobs, Mark - Data Center Operations > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Drive Disconnection > =20 > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:02:41PM -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: > > I have an external Lacie 1Tb drive attached to a FreeBSD = 6.4-PRERELEASE > > system via an ESATA connection. > >=20 > > atapci0: > >=20 > > I cleaned off the drive by writing random data to it. The write took > > overnight and didn't experience any problems. I then added a = filesystem > > to the drive and mounted it on the system. > >=20 > > However when I perform an rsync backup from a FreeBSD 7.1 PRERELEASE > > system to the drive over an NFS connection the drive disconnects and = the > > server reboots. >=20 > You've not provided enough information to help track this down. What > model/brand of disk is attached to that controller? What does = smartctl > -a have to say about the disk? What gets printed on the console = before > it reboots? Do you have the same problem if you run > 7.1-PRERELEASE/BETA2? >=20 > > Does anyone have an idea where to go from here? >=20 > The only generic advice I can give you at this point) is to avoid > Silicon Image controllers, particularly their SATA controllers. They > have a history of causing data corruption on Linux, FreeBSD, and > Windows, and some have reported other miscellaneous problems with them > as well. There's not enough evidence in this thread so far to blame = the > SiI controller, but when I see them, I become immediately suspicious. >=20 > --=20 > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. 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The disc is due back at the library soon so I want to make the most of it ... even if it does crash every 355 minutes! tia, people, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 04:56:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB181065679 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852088FC1A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so690844tid.3 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:56:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OP+lC2BV4ygL+Ix8BNfReY3uL3HiRdoS/ckoXseJ/7s=; b=kwyJq6Io6wK1JVj72La7s2tQ4QxENqzS1XUcW9rFFQ8NH8bbaWfL4asE/HZxXpLpsf HHb8G4aycA+JgrcCOLCcEtNf2Zzs/32eOOZecWZFPZOp5efb7dZLQaxS87WNy73xh3+1 oL8+FCjDWfJqaPmQmfKFVO/AIM9LSfwLBzq4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=EDTNuUncryHAwS+qhy+aS5eAzdQPIQnHcU/UK3mtRlogktpWyfKt10F7NJM95NA/kn NSO+2QaKPIWbDM57wJKcMKPyLmNc9Rtr8uMBR/Q6YKl+4C6WfOjGg0bHNbNoWSHY+eKr lIXl0r/2j/px1L+Xlq8ftzcGpSqlxiDGNVnUQ= Received: by 10.110.40.8 with SMTP id n8mr1789722tin.50.1224910616146; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.69.7 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84b68b3d0810242156y2b73d3f0s54f6354927f8b06e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:26:56 +0530 From: "Amitabh Kant" To: "Ivailo Tanusheff" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <84b68b3d0810222018j1d6b78b0s694190ddc5244995@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does hardware upgrade requires reconfiguration? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:56:58 -0000 Thanks. I am using amd64 port and a custom compiled kernel with ULE scheduler. As of now, the system is working fine without any changes after the upgrade. Amitabh On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: > > Hi, > > Well, the answer is both yes and no :) > If you have compiled a kernel, which supports multiple processors: options > SMP or you have copied most of /sys//conf/SMP the processor > will be discovered and used without any additional configurations. > If you currently use all 4GB RAM - PAE config or amd64 or simmilar branch - > the extra RAM will be used without any reconfiguration. > > If any or both of the above are not true - you have to change the options in > the kernel configuration file and recompile the kernel. > > Hope this will help you :) > > Regards, > > Ivailo Tanusheff > Deputy Head of IT Department > ProCredit Bank (Bulgaria) AD > > > > "Amitabh Kant" > Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > 23.10.2008 06:52 > > To > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > cc > Subject > does hardware upgrade requires reconfiguration? > > > > > Hi > > I currently have a single processor/4gb ram machine with me which I am > thinking to upgrade to dual proc and 8gb ram. Does installing extra > processor requires re-configuration or re-installation of the os? The > extra processor will be mounted on the same motherboard. > > With regards > > Amitabh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 05:11:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC541065676 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAF18FC19 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.173.231]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:11:40 -0700 From: "joeb" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:12:14 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2008 05:11:41.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A58E900:01C93660] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:23:54 +0000 Cc: Subject: restrict gnome desktop user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:11:45 -0000 How do it configure gnome to restrict users to their home directory? I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 06:50:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350ED1065676 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC328FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: by mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 66BF4EBBB4; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:20:39 +1030 (CST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on machapuchre.volcano.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=2.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from machapuchre.volcano.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E570AEBBAE for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:20:28 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <4902C1B4.30207@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:20:28 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: restrict gnome desktop user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:50:44 -0000 joeb wrote: > How do it configure gnome to restrict users to their home directory? > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? Dont know about gnome per se but you can use chroot/jails to restrict users to see only stuffs you want them to see for any environment. Just build the chroot and copy over the gnome-specific binaries to its chrooted-equivalent (copy or link /usr/bin/gnome-panel to /home/chrooted/johndoe/usr/bin/gnome-panel). I do not know of any tools that does this automatically and also I do not know how gdm will work out. e.g - Normal /home/johndoe/ | |___ .bashrc |___ .sig chrooted /home/chroot/johndoe/ | |__ bin/ |__ usr/ -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 07:07:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F761065676 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE9D8FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9P77eOc084292; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:07:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9P77eOc084292 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224918462; bh=kwg836x8MxStxW z3CKPFEBdyVyWsBxARCYY6evpY7pM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4902C5B6.7090206@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 025=20Oct=202008=2008:07:34=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20RW=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@ freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20duplicate=20a=20drive|References:=20=09=20<20081025013323.5483 e265@gumby.homeunix.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<20081025013323.5483e265@gu mby.homeunix.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mult ipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applic ation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig7DA8F4C EB35B3946B007893D"; b=g85zzzBX+5lzUnEgc2q3urIqm74wWVDkGgEZFqT95wvbK BryEJN9wD0j2fKIA4vKWWGqmwyPGRjJ0KjNB0ZDq2HEwp0n7D16UfzBg/ZLkIXrk3nj nl8WwD8MM6kmNFjVBbRI34vEJ1Jq0N9mrQlWwZ1y/z9MDvuW4nlJWGiO3Qk= Message-ID: <4902C5B6.7090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:07:34 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <20081025013323.5483e265@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081025013323.5483e265@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7DA8F4CEB35B3946B007893D" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:07:42 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8490/Sat Oct 25 04:28:16 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:07:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7DA8F4CEB35B3946B007893D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RW wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) > Warren Block wrote: >=20 >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HU= GE-DISK >> >=20 > "The best way is to reinstall the OS on the new disk, then move the use= r > data over. This is highly recommended if you have been tracking -STABLE= > for more than one release, or have updated a release instead of > installing a new one." >=20 >=20 > "Highly recommended" seems a very strange thing for the FAQ to be > saying. It's implying that FreeBSD base-system upgrades are a > bit flaky. It even goes on "Should you decide not to do a fresh > install", as if to say "you have been warned". >=20 > Unless my experience is abnormal, we seem to be publishing our own FUD.= When does a valid assessment of the difficulty of a certain course of=20 action turn into an unjustified attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty and=20 Doubt? This is not FUD because it is absolutely true. You will get better results by making a new install on your new hard drive and=20 merging over your data. Aside from anything else, the recommended=20 partitioning has changed significantly over the years, and if you try=20 and install 7.x into a disk layout originally designed for 4.x you will b= e a very unhappy bunny indeed[1]. Not to mention such things as the=20 change from UFS1 to UFS2. Base system upgrades /across major version numbers/ are difficult. =20 Unless you have guru-like capabilities, a fanatical level of interest in the OS internals and a great deal of luck, then it is entirely likely that you will run into problems you will be unable to solve. The 6.x to 7.x upgrade is really the first one that I've felt happy to=20 do by re-compiling the system in-situ: even so, getting all the=20 installed software correctly recompiled and linked against the new 7.x=20 shlibs requires a deal of care to make work correctly. Cheers, Matthew [1] Of course, if you'ld adopted the 'one big partition' layout which=20 I've been known to advocate here and there, this wouldn't be a problem. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7DA8F4CEB35B3946B007893D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkCxbwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxnsgCffQXaQvFItNqBXmSgxh0Y3PCo wgoAnieXX2zO6ImHdJ9X/Ae4OVZdOuqq =Ognp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7DA8F4CEB35B3946B007893D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 08:09:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C251065681 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9178FC16 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so444383eyi.7 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:09:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; bh=ffBcGylT7rGAHY/wxtTNWnT9UE+HTH+q5Ptq6RKROGg=; b=V5wGjOrYGKHTMA/eOP0Pj1jr8fmbOL61w1eB/0GDp2YwWGPuUWuqMTpPuCmM7Uayjx 2HIvHwC226SVLYLW/z5wBLuAxseeGcBOQgRTYSs2Y/fSQmE2PDVPyTLWpo7rfpdDK9g3 tbqDFSabbzNjYHr5ZvPqMkbBBXeVCpdOjbM+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition; b=J8WZGuSXIo0MBYk+gbzohyx494Ji2qMwl3thXDYDV/YHQp7WeKNHRaHyusAhjIz9ha Dukc3ubzcPw4N+Mqo5h69OW0DBJgShXaC6EbJPEA3ln7leR2CkruBvnUVc5y3HRVNHN2 Pb4nbncDRGArKDxkWGDlgZkaRDju0wOtFGMBE= Received: by 10.210.19.11 with SMTP id 11mr3447142ebs.172.1224920941818; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (81-86-41-187.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.41.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm1733307eyk.4.2008.10.25.00.49.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id 4D7455F58; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:48:58 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:08 -0000 Hello. I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal, I'm not running any games. As far as I can tell, only onboard Intel graphics and some ATI cards can provide acceleration without blobs. Is this really the case? I'm currently looking at the cheapest ATI cards as it seems that nobody makes a motherboard with the Intel onboard graphics that's compatible with Xeon CPUs. Am I going to be disappointed? Thanks, xw. Please CC: me as I'm not subscribed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 08:18:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2D21065681 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39C88FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9P8I2kx030054; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:18:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9P8I1ja030051; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:18:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:18:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: xorquewasp@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> Message-ID: <20081025101635.C30043@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:18:10 -0000 > I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in > 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options > for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal, > I'm not running any games. you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card? if second - buy for <<50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X terminal to connect to your high-speed computer. there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 08:23:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181A0106567C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971598FC39 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so446103eyi.7 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:23:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=mDYsMbdC2YN/cLZpUfJXfb34NTUfvbOkog15zo1p1Fg=; b=g1dcZeHvihKqFxI+hE9aS/eu3G95DjRrKMXG5rRVbvIeiKV4qI+uA1EzoJRzsKROG2 5GqYiMF78WgsCQD2eaimdLbZbSW5afX2SJ4UVAwHrrkzEvxaWwjodbzNM1vQTJ7UHYqJ J6PluR/i1SJFSbCWuXPQc677FjRk2v17RZLx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=SUOi2ruJnowUcT1d9KO+HghmQFLneWhTca/rk7/X1h2VyXSKIADnZkcRxd4QFPoEdj x/oWgPZB421rYfYaBWz7aQcKAYty5EMMLfSUlK5KLdngkpc/KBLFTXffwRkLPDX9J+Yu piHiTBrebhtkWNPd5UI2aoFkyonvW7ZAxGWF0= Received: by 10.210.136.10 with SMTP id j10mr3465534ebd.188.1224923021650; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (81-86-41-187.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.41.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm1753389eyi.5.2008.10.25.01.23.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id AA39A5F58; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:23:38 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081025082338.GA67346@logik.internal.network> References: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> <20081025101635.C30043@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081025101635.C30043@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:23:44 -0000 On 20081025 10:18:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in >> 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options >> for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal, >> I'm not running any games. > > you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card? > > if second - buy for <<50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end > pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X terminal > to connect to your high-speed computer. > > there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :) Unfortunately, yeah, I do need 3D acceleration. I'm not running any games but I am doing some OpenGL development (should've said that in the first place, really). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 08:44:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805CA106566B for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAEF8FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9P8i4Cq031852; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:44:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9P8i4jK031849; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:44:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:44:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: xorquewasp@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20081025082338.GA67346@logik.internal.network> Message-ID: <20081025104350.M31848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> <20081025101635.C30043@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081025082338.GA67346@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:44:11 -0000 afaik openGL always requires local display On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wrote: > On 20081025 10:18:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in >>> 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options >>> for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal, >>> I'm not running any games. >> >> you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card? >> >> if second - buy for <<50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end >> pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X terminal >> to connect to your high-speed computer. >> >> there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :) > > Unfortunately, yeah, I do need 3D acceleration. I'm not running any games > but I am doing some OpenGL development (should've said that in the first > place, really). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 10:22:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7042C1065675 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0C68FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.173.231]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:22:50 -0700 From: "joeb" To: "en0f" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:23:23 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4902C1B4.30207@bokey.mine.nu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2008 10:22:50.0811 (UTC) FILETIME=[A24D78B0:01C9368B] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: RE: restrict gnome desktop user. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:22:54 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of en0f Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:50 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: restrict gnome desktop user. joeb wrote: > How do it configure gnome to restrict users to their home directory? > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? Dont know about gnome per se but you can use chroot/jails to restrict users to see only stuffs you want them to see for any environment. Just build the chroot and copy over the gnome-specific binaries to its chrooted-equivalent (copy or link /usr/bin/gnome-panel to /home/chrooted/johndoe/usr/bin/gnome-panel). I do not know of any tools that does this automatically and also I do not know how gdm will work out. e.g - Normal /home/johndoe/ | |___ .bashrc |___ .sig chrooted /home/chroot/johndoe/ | |__ bin/ |__ usr/ -- en0f _______________________________________________ WOW this sure seems to be over kill putting each user in a jail. There must be some other way at the user id level or from gnome it self to do this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 10:48:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6631065673 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311688FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1302B1905E; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:48:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from [10.0.10.11] (tau.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4902F962.7090604@cran.org.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:48:02 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> <20081025101635.C30043@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081025082338.GA67346@logik.internal.network> <20081025104350.M31848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081025104350.M31848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: xorquewasp@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:48:19 -0000 > > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wrote: > >> On 20081025 10:18:01, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in >>>> 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options >>>> for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite >>>> minimal, >>>> I'm not running any games. >>> >>> you actually need 3D accelerator or just fast 2D card? >>> >>> if second - buy for <<50$ (or get for free) used computer, lowest end >>> pentium will suffice, plug good PCI graphics in it, and make an X >>> terminal >>> to connect to your high-speed computer. >>> >>> there is one more adventage of it - you may connect more than one :) >> >> Unfortunately, yeah, I do need 3D acceleration. I'm not running any >> games >> but I am doing some OpenGL development (should've said that in the first >> place, really). Wojciech Puchar wrote: > afaik openGL always requires local display I would guess the development and testing will be done on the same machine. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 11:29:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AEF1065676 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A898FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so471242eyi.7 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:29:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=PjeQgrs1h4CPdi5OQWpeqpNLOKfEEVe7L4Hlh9enE2I=; b=VLdTuRHdpBCEbuBCCLj7drE1x5nVoWz/HvXdworMqEXmgvzScOWQc/K4C5JtHhuUdh 1q3CGx0fTOMov9YcWrx6gGwwnJisFVF8g8gwtoNJIg8KtsTplRwNkk6AFhsUiW5CC7ib sgZB/JzI/u+XV06u0PnA9h7UZ6ptqQ9ZpfFsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=G3q75gJkweR67BjvUSzgwPjW6EbbEWlC2Ai8vn5ajlGqLq0x+5obd/pPTwuBiBwT/s 1SLpYZD2rSKKXKpX3N7Esz0oNspa3+9IPbOHiR5t7ZM5Yig1O0/dy5FrpzSbDV/SJea0 XRIT6l3Jxdc/Gj0UP9QFQLkHF7wNhsamx0Z80= Received: by 10.210.143.11 with SMTP id q11mr3684976ebd.135.1224934159234; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (81-86-41-187.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.41.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm1981794eyi.5.2008.10.25.04.29.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id A265E5F58; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:29:15 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20081025112915.GA37878@logik.internal.network> References: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> <20081025101635.C30043@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081025082338.GA67346@logik.internal.network> <20081025104350.M31848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4902F962.7090604@cran.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4902F962.7090604@cran.org.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:29:21 -0000 On 20081025 11:48:02, Bruce Cran wrote: > > I would guess the development and testing will be done on the same machine. > > -- > Bruce If that was a question, then yeah, you're correct. It seems that I can actually get open acceleration using the r500 series of ATI cards (the X1950 is the most powerful card supported by Xorg DRI, apparently). These cards go for about $20 now... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 11:35:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754111065673 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D13A8FC1F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9PBZ6C5025652; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:35:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3B4B2BA96; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:35:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:35:03 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: xorquewasp@googlemail.com Message-ID: <20081025113503.GA63738@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081025074858.GA17098@logik.internal.network> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the age old 3D hardware question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:35:09 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 08:48:58AM +0100, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wrote: > Hello. >=20 > I'm looking to buy a new workstation that needs to be able to run in > 64-bit (long) mode (working with large data sets). What are my options > for 3D acceleration without binary drivers? My needs are quite minimal, > I'm not running any games. >=20 > As far as I can tell, only onboard Intel graphics and some ATI cards can > provide acceleration without blobs. Is this really the case? Yes. Intel should work with a recent driver and drm components in the kernel. Recent ATI cards (R600) work in 2D only. 3D support for R5XX ATI chips shou= ld work in the X driver, but you might need recent patches from Robert Noland for the DRM component in the kernel. 3D support for R600 based cards is waiting on specs to be provided by ATI. =20 Check out http://www.phoronix.com/ for news about display drivers etc. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkDBGcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWuggCfWCk8yTWxSMRyL5E/hbICXFsa P7YAn1L24J2jZUp3iE69UIunqR1OWDG1 =LMIX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 12:49:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC7106566C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0CF8FC18 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1209061rvf.43 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:49:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VPe+rlOZGq2i9S1qfcLKXVqKNlUJLQ8r+0PMc7BL5VM=; b=AdYDrbnxPLd2Nmom24YY5dlPovsUEOabpERGKTnQBnYABy9wHu9EQDBvwE9l0vLfDz 3EadR/+jkcuseOMkX9JADcZuy9s2BoY3WE3G6Rs9afiJQw8s1ryqd+PApK5iWXcHf7Th RZoToU2EgvPpoO9mAZvihcRkDmHcdbIzg20ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I+gSyaKrM3d8QzEl40tSFoDEc9WjOGYbeA+NagZ8Wr79o68y22t5FJPL1ZFxXFGZwX 26bKQqo6ipQ3na/yu+iidVVnkEaGSpaefW7jAzeI4YcTNstOnc6QikRcZARNNiswyP8F bfML+y4l8qyQW1y2TbZkOxDrBd8JiQOqhbVUI= Received: by 10.141.122.1 with SMTP id z1mr1885517rvm.197.1224938959720; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810250549r6c1f5614i27709c09d73a2018@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <200810250958.15130.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200810250958.15130.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:49:20 -0000 On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote: >> >this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it >> >can't work >> >> rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. > > The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily tries to > link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable results.. > > One trick I use for that is to put a symlink in /compat/linux in the place the > problematic FreeBSD library is.. > > That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible libraries :) Yea. Also you go tot realize that if it didn't pick up /usr/lib32 shared objects then /lib would be searched as a last resort I believe since its the default path. As a result, things again would have just worked. Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld? -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 13:15:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814591065675 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4645E8FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1KtizD-0001Mc-3O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:15:23 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KtizC-00017Z-0a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:15:22 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:15:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810251415.21878.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 3a30b6d23c3e580005e6cbe1e3c9895a Subject: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:15:25 -0000 After upgrading to Gimp 2.6.1 (on 6.4-RC1) I can't access the Gimp help files. I have the following gimp* ports installed: gimp-2.6.1,2 The "meta-port" for The Gimp gimp-app-2.6.1_1,1 A GNU Image Manipulation Program gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_1 GutenPrint Printer Driver gimp-help-2.4.1 GIMP user's manual The error message I got was: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The GIMP user manual is not installed on your computer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gimp-help-2.4.1 worked OK with 2.4 but perhaps it's not compatible with 2.6. (I see from www.gimp.org that work is in progress on updating the user manual for GIMP 2.6) so I thought I'd switch over to the online help but then I got the following error message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading: Operation not supported Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I have gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 and gvfs-0.2.5 installed. This isn't restricted to just the online help, gimp won't load any file via http. I asked about the http problem in comp.graphics.apps.gimp but didn't get any response. Google searches haven't unearthed anything about this so I was wondering if it might be a problem related to the FreeBSD port rather than gimp itself? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 13:48:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B6B1065676 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEAC8FC23 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9PDdOwV024752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:39:24 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:50:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <172590.26774.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20081024211443.GA18056@icarus.home.lan> <4902453C.3010009@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <4902453C.3010009@webrz.net> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.379 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: root | su X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:48:55 -0000 On Friday 24 October 2008 23:59, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > [Jeremy Chadwick said] > > You're trying to solve a social (possibly personal?) problem with > > technology. Simply put, this is a bad idea. > > Yep, I think that is .true. > > > I would highly recommend you either talk to "the idiot" and explain to > > him why what he's doing is improper or foolish, or simply pull his root > > access entirely. If this is a work-related incident, talk to your boss > > about it if at all possible (but see below). If you call the shots, > > simply yank their access. > > The idiot is the boss himself and acts like an unguided missile. > Just investigating before I give him a wake-up call. And that is exactly > what I will do... > > > Food for thought. Cheers! > > Love it, thanks for sharing (everyone)! I'm coming to this discussion a bit late, and in general it's true that you can't limit root's ability to read files, execute programs, fiddle with settings etc. What you can do, which has limited usefulness but might fit your specific case, is temporarily prevent root from using su to log in as another user without knowing their password. If you comment out (or remove entirely, which may slow down the other user even more, if they're unfamiliar with pam) the line auth sufficient pam_rootok.so no_warn in /etc/pam.d/su, root has to meet the same requirements as any other user before using su. Of course there's nothing to stop someone with root access from editing this file, but now the problem user has to actively subvert a measure that's been taken by another sysadmin - which may provide a better starting-point for a conversation about what they're up to. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 13:52:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572581065673 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (llca513-a.servidoresdns.net [217.76.128.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149F78FC26 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from mail.dsa.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9101104040 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:51:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 84.18.11.147 (SquirrelMail authenticated user faf352c) by mail.dsa.es with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:51:06 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1925.84.18.11.147.1224942666.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:51:06 -0000 (GMT) From: "DSA - JCR" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: FireBird SQL port is not up to date X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:52:27 -0000 Hi all I don't know if this is the rigth list to say, but I have found that the por for the Firebird SQL server and client is not up to date. in the ports the version is 2.0.3_2 in FirebirdSQl.org the last version 2.1.1 and also testing 2.5 I work with Firebird SQL Server and under FreeBSD (of course!!!) and also there is many tools that work with like PHP, QT,... Please, let me know if there will be an update for it. Thanks in advance Sincerely Juan Coruņa Desarrollo de Software Atlantico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 13:57:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E75C1065670 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19358FC3C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so775092rne.12 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:57:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=ixg4PlkT2Cf1H/PxB9KPUnpPlfT8Bi5i4mymm2qSnug=; b=RQLA0AKojqdyHEFxS5FQsGQBhvJy7w4/HWSj/KmRoAlzFOLK+girS44h47ZHhdtc7n BZTSMVIIF79X7xVxC/JRzosFT8W70bLLjFnrf/0EFw3S+UdN7D8lvEeV2ivWoxxdnHoq HOgRQAv3ojp7/43cFPfL+dodOEcXz/UYO5nK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=GEuKaycXjN0POuOLA15vOjBtM2kIX1IAy6WMAeC8ZH6Yg7Ae7zXVYaaFnwrYpnNSRy mUvGjSVVve/USQgO4c5GvowbnKPapC/lww7bXkDj7DtQrW0H0YJHlSdU0mb4/egkCm42 m1OI4aY3NmdFvKy+jvgQoTk9/kRCqOMUiCk04= Received: by 10.150.220.19 with SMTP id s19mr2044890ybg.217.1224943033585; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kan.dnsalias.net (c-24-62-106-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.62.106.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o29sm2152415elf.3.2008.10.25.06.57.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:57:07 -0400 From: Alexander Kabaev To: "Alexander Sack" Message-ID: <20081025095707.5226d663@kan.dnsalias.net> In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810250549r6c1f5614i27709c09d73a2018@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200810250958.15130.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <3c0b01820810250549r6c1f5614i27709c09d73a2018@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/2CvL_Ijs54QK/nIFimt1iHp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: Daniel O'Connor , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:57:15 -0000 --Sig_/2CvL_Ijs54QK/nIFimt1iHp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400 "Alexander Sack" wrote: >=20 > Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld? >=20 > -aps It is not. In case it was not clear before, I maintain that you _ask_ rtld for wrong behaviour and you get back what you asked for, down to the letter. 'Tasting' libraries just because someone somewhere want to screw up their configuration does not seem right to me at all. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/2CvL_Ijs54QK/nIFimt1iHp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFJAyWzQ6z1jMm+XZYRAsLcAJ94HFDpsdXLEFu6tM1HTaehE2etPACgiZ79 qRODaSlnqzoO4FYfPJNwoQQ= =ADcG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2CvL_Ijs54QK/nIFimt1iHp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 13:57:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735921065671 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (llca513-a.servidoresdns.net [217.76.128.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC298FC39 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from mail.dsa.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E051104040 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:56:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 84.18.11.147 (SquirrelMail authenticated user faf352c) by mail.dsa.es with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:56:28 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:56:28 -0000 (GMT) From: "DSA - JCR" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:57:47 -0000 Hi all I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installation ;D I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the console to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a message to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not? Some ideas? Thanks in advance Juan Coruņa Desarrollo de Software Atlantico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 14:55:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEBA106566B for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C668FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9PEsniQ037381; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:54:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9PEsniQ037381 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224946491; bh=QFRRNuHyLNhmBi MRqay2NNU2CqQieUY6RawTMphVZmI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 025=20Oct=202008=2015:54:41=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20DSA=20-=20JCR=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@fr eebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20restore=20a=20lost=20root=20p assword...|References:=20<3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mai l.dsa.es>|In-Reply-To:=20<3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mai l.dsa.es>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/si gned=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pg p-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigCAB84A5666940FD C34B76A55"; b=MuVL2kzbv0gaeBkcix4bbjBV6zvR8pf5gnAatfk7GT+NYzFS5LhIn aauwqNS9AMCOe1oxkswZ55rHx85QE642wkmT78ZwJdVYeFN6VWwebao9SGYz4d3/Sux oZ9xWGt3VyMx5gfgHwh9GVnQKPiNzbvT4ZkX8YaERscObCe0mlA= Message-ID: <49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:54:41 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DSA - JCR References: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> In-Reply-To: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCAB84A5666940FDC34B76A55" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:54:51 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8490/Sat Oct 25 04:28:16 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCAB84A5666940FDC34B76A55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DSA - JCR wrote: > Hi all >=20 > I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installat= ion ;D >=20 > I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the conso= le > to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a messa= ge > to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. >=20 > Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not? >=20 > Some ideas? You can try booting from installation media into 'fixit' mode or live filesystem. Once there, you can mount your HDD read-write; edit=20 /etc/master.password to remove the crypted password string from the line for the root account; run 'cap_mkdb ./master.passwd'; reboot back to= =20 your normal system and then log in as root (no password) and=20 /immediately/ set another root password. This time, don't forget your root password. If you struggle to memorise it, then *write it down* on its own, on a blank sheet of paper. Don't=20 add any really obvious text like "this is the root password for my=20 server" -- after all, we don't want to make it too easy for anyone trying= =20 to break in do we? Seal that paper in an envelope and keep it in a safe = place. But not so safe that you forget where you put it... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigCAB84A5666940FDC34B76A55 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkDMzkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzjSgCfWaBaUT9XHiufDkVzPpiBgKxr t3kAn10BH+rMTTrh8C7y2q9X2qUnGG/e =Sd/K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCAB84A5666940FDC34B76A55-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 14:59:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25844106566C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5C48FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9PExXxI037604; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9PExXxI037604 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224946774; bh=Z6NXdYZeXQN7v5 SchZ7H5rvV76uxTXfGRwt4kUMdVfI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<49033455.4090609@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 025=20Oct=202008=2015:59:33=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20DSA=20-=20JCR=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@fr eebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20restore=20a=20lost=20root=20p assword...|References:=20<3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mai l.dsa.es>=20<49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:= 20<49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200 .95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B= 0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary= 3D"------------enigFB89D28F82BE01B5D932EE26"; b=oUWR+LLYFMnIVvyRSyQ LUkbMWwuTMoMpZXXu1UK6DzO6ZebNP8c6vhFaanGXLFM5zkPuJVWBziB8e4AvD+qVHv 7k/J9o0Da1pBATmXlXasJxO37dPP+7x3C4F/FISUuGToxojfpQ1efW9P0Mc2WLAnZ4p U3gACh0+YSJKvC4wic= Message-ID: <49033455.4090609@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:33 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DSA - JCR References: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> <49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB89D28F82BE01B5D932EE26" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:59:34 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8490/Sat Oct 25 04:28:16 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:59:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB89D28F82BE01B5D932EE26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > DSA - JCR wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an=20 >> installation ;D >> >> I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the cons= ole >> to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a mess= age >> to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. >> >> Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not? >> >> Some ideas? >=20 > You can try booting from installation media into 'fixit' mode or live > filesystem. Once there, you can mount your HDD read-write; edit=20 > /etc/master.password to remove the crypted password string from the > line for the root account; run 'cap_mkdb ./master.passwd'; reboot back Ooops. Make that: 'pwd_mkdb ./master.passwd' =20 > to your normal system and then log in as root (no password) and=20 > /immediately/ set another root password. >=20 > This time, don't forget your root password. If you struggle to memoris= e > it, then *write it down* on its own, on a blank sheet of paper. Don't = > add any really obvious text like "this is the root password for my=20 > server" -- after all, we don't want to make it too easy for anyone=20 > trying to break in do we? Seal that paper in an envelope and keep it i= n=20 > a safe place. But not so safe that you forget where you put it... >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFB89D28F82BE01B5D932EE26 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkDNFUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzteQCfa0j8wu6fF0kPWf4akX9S2s4b DXsAnRAd168ZDfwjuFtKa3PV0YtN1iGl =joxd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB89D28F82BE01B5D932EE26-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 15:05:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5428A10656A6 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C7F8FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9PF56qR037911; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:05:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9PF56qR037911 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1224947107; bh=rtwHsn7EdFPGj9 50rxUtsb2UMSGkxiqunEmhKMGT5LI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<490335A2.7050709@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 025=20Oct=202008=2016:05:06=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20DSA=20-=20JCR=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@fr eebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20restore=20a=20lost=20root=20p assword...|References:=20<3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mai l.dsa.es>=09<49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20<49033455.4 090609@infracaninophile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<49033455.4090609@inf racaninophile.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20m ultipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"app lication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig6DCF 99CAB6EBE1DCCFBF87A6"; b=W7lGSx+NUJGpCKcsTEAyHJ8/BjFPmFR2du2rAl8dWN woicFNNG3+7poV5pqDKZop7f98u7ZM0kfga5o7maJbtqrqKh5lUh+5N5Ls1o4JHfIc/ zqbXJpHGBgNGr5qj7jKxAIACO5MOwYogRSF2XTFl3h/QN784jRnpOewoNAfTCY= Message-ID: <490335A2.7050709@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:05:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DSA - JCR References: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> <49033331.1040906@infracaninophile.co.uk> <49033455.4090609@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49033455.4090609@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6DCF99CAB6EBE1DCCFBF87A6" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:05:07 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8490/Sat Oct 25 04:28:16 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:05:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6DCF99CAB6EBE1DCCFBF87A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> DSA - JCR wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an=20 >>> installation ;D >>> >>> I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the=20 >>> console >>> to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a=20 >>> message >>> to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. >>> >>> Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not? >>> >>> Some ideas? >> >> You can try booting from installation media into 'fixit' mode or live >> filesystem. Once there, you can mount your HDD read-write; edit=20 >> /etc/master.password to remove the crypted password string from the >> line for the root account; run 'cap_mkdb ./master.passwd'; reboot back= >=20 > Ooops. Make that: 'pwd_mkdb ./master.passwd' >=20 Double ooops. make that: 'pwd_mkdb -d . ./master.passwd' >> to your normal system and then log in as root (no password) and=20 >> /immediately/ set another root password. >> >> This time, don't forget your root password. If you struggle to memori= se >> it, then *write it down* on its own, on a blank sheet of paper. Don't= =20 >> add any really obvious text like "this is the root password for my=20 >> server" -- after all, we don't want to make it too easy for anyone=20 >> trying to break in do we? Seal that paper in an envelope and keep it = >> in a safe place. But not so safe that you forget where you put it... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >=20 > Matthew >=20 Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6DCF99CAB6EBE1DCCFBF87A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkDNaIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx9BgCgkEotEtUp28fc5khEJwrEAvRB JV0AnRIcNjDC+uBymkWJ0TnqSCzpM72t =UH9X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6DCF99CAB6EBE1DCCFBF87A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 15:06:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AB410656A4 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277D88FC1A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9PF5xht018029; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:05:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9PF5xVR018026; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:05:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:05:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Mike Clarke In-Reply-To: <200810251415.21878.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <200810251415.21878.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:06:01 -0000 On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Mike Clarke wrote: > gimp-help-2.4.1 worked OK with 2.4 but perhaps it's not compatible with > 2.6. (I see from www.gimp.org that work is in progress on updating the > user manual for GIMP 2.6) so I thought I'd switch over to the online > help but then I got the following error message: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading: > Operation not supported > > Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I have gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 and gvfs-0.2.5 installed. With the same ports but also py25-gimp-app-2.6.1, it works here. Gimp settings: User Manual: Use the online version Help browser to use: Web browser Web browser to use: firefox3 %s > This isn't restricted to just the online help, gimp won't load any file > via http. Hadn't tried opening an image URL before, but that seems to work here as well. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 15:16:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0E11065679 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06338FC1A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9PFG5lt014361; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:16:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:16:05 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: CK In-Reply-To: <20081025080921.12E4B10656C4@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20081026020554.R70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081025080921.12E4B10656C4@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mpd - lcp protocol rejects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:16:09 -0000 On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:08:13 +0300 CK wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running mpd 4.4 on 6.3-STABLE #4. Connecting with mpd to my ISP's > VPN server running poptop. Everything is ok for some time, and then all > of a sudden mpd starts throwing weird protocol rejects to log file and > vpn connection stops working. > > mpd.conf: I can't answer your question, but I'm pretty sure that if you posted your nicely detailed message to freebsd-net@freebsd.org especially if cc'd to mav@freebsd.org you'll most likely get an informed response. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 15:48:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4EC106566C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bofh42@charter.net) Received: from que21.charter.net (que21.charter.net [209.225.8.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197668FC1F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bofh42@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20081025153820.ZTDL3732.mta11.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:38:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (really [24.151.239.213]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20081025153819.ZTMI3522.aarprv04.charter.net@[192.168.1.5]> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:38:19 -0400 From: bofh42 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:38:22 -0400 Message-Id: <1224949102.29464.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Subject: re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:48:52 -0000 On Friday 24 October 2008, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this is an issue with my dhcp server or the client, > but since I seem to get troubles with two different clients, I'm > thinking it might be the server: > > > I've got a FreeBSD 7.0-p4 machine running isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2 > serving my home network. When my Linux (Archlinux) client request > a lease, this happens: > > [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 > eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting > eth0: broadcasting for a lease > eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' > eth0: checking 10.0.0.176 is available on attached networks > Are you sure you are using the correct command to start the DHCP client? I'm not familiar with Archlinux, but on Debian linux the command you need is dhclient. On the other hand, dhcpd starts the dhcp *server* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 15:49:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE061065684 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF9B8FC1F for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (f054100213.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.100.213]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKxQS-1KtlBl2Im3-00083p; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:36:30 +0200 Message-ID: <49033CFB.5070100@janh.de> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:36:27 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080927) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Clarke References: 200810251415.21878.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19tJtDY2hReLud971yqV1f8OOxZzWolwmUchQG X4zBMnYcpCIs3fpkXUCFFBAuUGDEAI7etXdZ6+xjbop4LwNXir FPrv5dYL/poCofDziZvxw== Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:49:18 -0000 Mike wrote: > After upgrading to Gimp 2.6.1 (on 6.4-RC1) I can't access > the Gimp help files. graphics/gimp-app misses a dependency: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2008-October/020978.html Install www/webkit-gtk2 and rebuild graphics/gimp-app. Please, report back if that solves the problem with gimp-help. If it does that might be an argument to add the dependency to gimp-app. (The pkg-plist of graphics/gimp-app must be fixed one way or the other.) Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 17:10:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9671065673 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A1B8FC24 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1280722rvf.43 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7LUgUgCHiqDxo3oJpCF7ZMoRovKReVdW6+G4S7Wq2Vk=; b=VImlslBKuakAjiQ9ceEIipUtHR/f+wMb4npSiTZ0fjGiWeIJETiBULmJe0ZEi7/aTF Ezq4OWvZK6liT4loPZQoc8LigWM76czRXD5VPF1yyhUsyvE6IrLQRgijXmWa2A5nYQll firXGThA9ZaZDmuQImVBBqgBG6OLFht+JFasA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oL+fg1yFhsrcHjEBL2V7BNa/McxOrBXIteB8v+MlvyFv2vZp1alg4o7o8SfqQ4fgbb dCpgpkQsk2ALlQCMOFXesLlNY/4wTZG5DYN6YKIASo9jBCMJX6JVOLwo4NjHvbBdr4Rr xxfiV4z9yONnjDN59ErWdrLdlS32FVepF7fbc= Received: by 10.141.87.13 with SMTP id p13mr2024899rvl.93.1224954654008; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.43.14 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820810251010n17ba274dsf0a543b8287e8e65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:10:53 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "Alexander Kabaev" In-Reply-To: <20081025095707.5226d663@kan.dnsalias.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200810250958.15130.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <3c0b01820810250549r6c1f5614i27709c09d73a2018@mail.gmail.com> <20081025095707.5226d663@kan.dnsalias.net> Cc: Daniel O'Connor , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:10:54 -0000 On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Alexander Kabaev wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400 > "Alexander Sack" wrote: > >> >> Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld? >> >> -aps > > It is not. In case it was not clear before, I maintain that you _ask_ > rtld for wrong behaviour and you get back what you asked for, down to > the letter. 'Tasting' libraries just because someone somewhere want to > screw up their configuration does not seem right to me at all. I maintain that rtld should not load 32-bit libraries for a 64-bit binary. That is WRONG anyway you look at it. And again, if it checked the arch type and skipped libutil.so.5 in /usr/lib32 it would fall back to checking /lib and things would work. Moreover, if /usr/lib had major number links just like /usr/lib32 has, this would again have worked without issue. I believe this will be fixed on the other side of the fence (not setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /usr/lib32 to begin wtih) but still, my point still stands. -aps From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 17:52:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1AF1065671 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (fed1rmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.241.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B828FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081025175156.MHAG6482.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:51:56 -0400 Received: from asus64 ([98.176.32.63]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id X5rx1a0061MjGMu035rxoW; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:51:57 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1Cr9SF5lriWVkLKu35IA:9 a=Vv-6YJq1vmf33b-SpIcA:7 a=OoanxdOFal1DiA9UvfPrb5VFrb0A:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=igkdSQrOE6AA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:51:51 -0700 From: Robert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081025105151.0e689dc6@asus64> In-Reply-To: <20081020103839.369884cf@asus64> References: <20081020103839.369884cf@asus64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: disappearing mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:52:08 -0000 Five days and no responses, so maybe more information. On this computer I have on board GeForce 6100. vgapci0@pci0:0:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x81bf1043 chip=0x024210de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' device = 'GeForce 6100' class = display subclass = VGA I have the same exact release and ports running on a different computer equipped with a GeForce 6800 XT in an AGP slot without a problem. The big difference is that other computer is running i386. It is using "nv" driver without any problems. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Feel free to tell me where to go. :-) Thanks Robert On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:38:39 -0700 Robert wrote: > Greetings FreeBSD > > When running XFCE4 I will lose the mouse pointer at times. This will > only happen when I have the driver set to "nv" in xorg.conf. The mouse > will still work as I can see where it is when I pass over icons and > watch them highlight. If I can stop on an icon, I can click and it > works. > > If I drop out of the XFCE4 using ctl-alt-backspace, the mouse pointer > appears and all is well. If I restart the XFCE4, there is no pointer. > If I change the driver to "vesa" and restart then I have a pointer > again. The only way I have found to regain the pointer using "nv" is > to reboot. > > All ports are up to date and I am running amd64 RELENG_7 as of last > Saturday. > > uname -a > FreeBSD asus64.shasta204.local 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE > #1: Sat Oct 18 13:31:00 PDT 2008 > root@asus64.shasta204.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > If I should have posted to a different list please let me know. I have > also attached my xorg.conf. > > TIA > > Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 18:55:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B28C106569C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317048FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so421987ywe.13 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=9J3c9cogwvTOSTNbfckBcSeaQZ4NAjPn5wlC3LNLikg=; b=rUz/7jnd32jtMx7/8Vlm1K3f3JCRa+xZtPwlpUoT+N0D4h/EUO8kJyBI4u6K2AJmts eEszIPOtIB7sbS85fKEGO5AMedS51OxT/wWM+mxB+n2m/cpvqMwkJ3FguAi61Tpok5QB 106uxv7C8zadRPzEF4N5TFh6DtwPvMx1w6zO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=LxMsnTgrn1b4K8flUx0kXrDBmmINlhNp6m+Ns5Q+DoKyLgEOPrB2tph/zqUIFoclYA ptMrWyIPplNsoWvFDd6BENPTV+KQQjF9Tx9x1BdNGu+QUt53B/RtvurCe0EUjVOolXdC KopJ7XQIQtMAyfRNlnCrTLihn+n2zEAefwJPI= Received: by 10.100.138.10 with SMTP id l10mr4560317and.25.1224960952021; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kan.dnsalias.net (c-24-62-106-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.62.106.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c27sm7766946ana.37.2008.10.25.11.55.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:45 -0400 From: Alexander Kabaev To: "Alexander Sack" Message-ID: <20081025145545.52db2d8a@kan.dnsalias.net> In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820810251010n17ba274dsf0a543b8287e8e65@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c0b01820810231731s1b4d4659j7d1df8bf4abb229c@mail.gmail.com> <20081024104232.X21603@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081024125059.GE1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200810250958.15130.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <3c0b01820810250549r6c1f5614i27709c09d73a2018@mail.gmail.com> <20081025095707.5226d663@kan.dnsalias.net> <3c0b01820810251010n17ba274dsf0a543b8287e8e65@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Z+.yhe2Ce2Xi21EF9z+UlZD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: Daniel O'Connor , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:55:53 -0000 --Sig_/Z+.yhe2Ce2Xi21EF9z+UlZD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:10:53 -0400 "Alexander Sack" wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Alexander Kabaev > wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:49:19 -0400 > > "Alexander Sack" wrote: > > > >> > >> Is this a bug or not in FreeBSD's rtld? > >> > >> -aps > > > > It is not. In case it was not clear before, I maintain that you > > _ask_ rtld for wrong behaviour and you get back what you asked for, > > down to the letter. 'Tasting' libraries just because someone > > somewhere want to screw up their configuration does not seem right > > to me at all. >=20 > I maintain that rtld should not load 32-bit libraries for a 64-bit > binary. That is WRONG anyway you look at it. And again, if it checked > the arch type and skipped libutil.so.5 in /usr/lib32 it would fall > back to checking /lib and things would work. Moreover, if /usr/lib > had major number links just like /usr/lib32 has, this would again have > worked without issue. >=20 > I believe this will be fixed on the other side of the fence (not > setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /usr/lib32 to begin wtih) but > still, my point still stands. >=20 > -aps It doesn't. Stop feeding 32 bit libraries and it won't try to load them. It is as simple as that. For complex scenarious we do provide LD_32_ family of environment variables and if you refuse using them and insist on sticking with clearly broken configuration, it your problem, not rtld's. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/Z+.yhe2Ce2Xi21EF9z+UlZD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFJA2uyQ6z1jMm+XZYRAik6AJ9w8pbI1Y4uSXD8ujbzRlEQWvRhhwCg1qmk xwQnSb9dFlrSBiroH4pgF0Q= =OZK3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Z+.yhe2Ce2Xi21EF9z+UlZD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 22:45:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6394B106566B for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2672B8FC1D for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ktrsc-0000QY-By; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:45:10 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ktrsb-0007OX-8L; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:45:09 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:45:08 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49033CFB.5070100@janh.de> In-Reply-To: <49033CFB.5070100@janh.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810252345.09076.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: a878cf5f9a824485f27629263b726be5 Cc: Jan Henrik Sylvester Subject: Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:45:12 -0000 On Saturday 25 October 2008, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > graphics/gimp-app misses a dependency: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2008-October/020978. >html > > Install www/webkit-gtk2 and rebuild graphics/gimp-app. > > Please, report back if that solves the problem with gimp-help. If it > does that might be an argument to add the dependency to gimp-app. I tried that but still had exactly the same problem. I also reinstalled gimp, gimp-app and gimp-help after installing webkit-gtk2 but still no change. curlew:/home/mike% pkg_info -Ix gimp webkit-gtk2 gimp-2.6.1,2 The "meta-port" for The Gimp gimp-app-2.6.1_1,1 A GNU Image Manipulation Program gimp-gutenprint-5.1.7_1 GutenPrint Printer Driver gimp-help-2.4.1 GIMP user's manual webkit-gtk2-0.0.30549_1 An opensource browser engine Gimp is firmly of the opinion that gimp-help isn't installed, the help tab of the preferences dialog has a message saying "The user manual is not installed locally". -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 23:10:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29291106567A for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C968FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B538509D7 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:10:18 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ro+LTjg3SQl8 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:10:05 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D75D6509C8; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:10:04 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081025231004.D75D6509C8@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:10:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-10-05 - 2008-10-25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:10:20 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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