From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 01:11:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A81065679 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB6C8FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so433947yxb.13 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:11:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=/Rpo/lECHuwk/eIaALJogFM68MpRhIR0YZxkGQTDKxU=; b=qMIsfJsU48SXdWJ89QKkBXy9rbgbRvAreUzse1Zj009cTqWE9PpLwdBbNoxZ4snCXN liU/XgCra9UQOTIlvqcQnQqD7Fl74SLUA+wIgVYdnzKxkicffg8BsEszRVMwd2I7LpcR AvRsYRzes6JXrYBiyYg9C4bxlrx2MwOW7bra8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rXGsG33g9rALFQknH6pERlErulGjIXIcP9i8UCs3FBxWUpURBCJaK177zqDhoDvAuE SrF7AIXK7oUI4CSFGhjCrAe2LXe03TP14dwEwJRhc5cSJWskKIaxyGa7adFOtTJhowYe Pcem3zK7PmmjhqoTKUtQgnwl6QaxCEtuDh8XU= Received: by 10.65.23.5 with SMTP id a5mr4466374qbj.56.1224983460396; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.208.1 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26face530810251811i3757db68wb7ed44faaf51444b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:11:00 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: sudo multiple commands at once without shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:11:02 -0000 How do I run multiple sudo commands at once? This fails because the semicolon ends the whole sudo command: > sudo whoami; whoami root user This confuses tcsh: monica:~> sudo ( whoami ; whoami ) Badly placed ()'s. I could obviously write a shell script or something or do: > sudo whoami; sudo whoami but is there a better way? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 01:36:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2501065672 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1A58FC1C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m9Q1aXlZ067891 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m9Q1aXEx067890; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06366; Sat, 25 Oct 08 18:32:36 PDT Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:37:36 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com Message-Id: <4903c9e0.kerD5YQu0ikZMn3r%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <26face530810251811i3757db68wb7ed44faaf51444b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26face530810251811i3757db68wb7ed44faaf51444b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sudo multiple commands at once without shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:36:34 -0000 > How do I run multiple sudo commands at once? This fails > because the semicolon ends the whole sudo command: > > > sudo whoami; whoami > root > user > > This confuses tcsh: > > monica:~> sudo ( whoami ; whoami ) > Badly placed ()'s. Supposing sudo spawns a shell, something like ~> sudo whoami \; whoami or ~> sudo "whoami; whoami" should work. If not, maybe try explicitly running a shell: ~> sudo sh -c "whoami; whoami" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 01:53:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC1C106566C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m0rchand@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7638FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m0rchand@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XClt1a00X0cZkys51DgKab; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:40:19 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.200] ([76.122.47.225]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XDgJ1a00U4rWgJL3WDgJK5; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:40:19 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fAoonUXF0QAA:10 a=cecqnDtwW7YA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=f0x5yX3ctx78b4WUIMYA:9 a=OM8J3XVwS4jVWiv0NpUA:7 a=kxdI8eMnJBfS6KvysoONq5_iTPQA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-Id: <040D18B2-E661-45BB-942B-9859ECA080C6@comcast.net> From: Tom Marchand To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <26face530810251811i3757db68wb7ed44faaf51444b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:40:17 -0400 References: <26face530810251811i3757db68wb7ed44faaf51444b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: sudo multiple commands at once without shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:53:37 -0000 This works for me: sudo sh -c "whoami;whoami" On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:11 PM, Kelly Jones wrote: > How do I run multiple sudo commands at once? This fails because the > semicolon ends the whole sudo command: > >> sudo whoami; whoami > root > user > > This confuses tcsh: > > monica:~> sudo ( whoami ; whoami ) > Badly placed ()'s. > > I could obviously write a shell script or something or do: > >> sudo whoami; sudo whoami > > but is there a better way? > > -- > We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying > to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to > new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 02:54:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3117B106569B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinskernel@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BAF8FC1B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinskernel@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so584196ele.13 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:54:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer:from; bh=xRjb/qdM2ilhSFY/M2oPcky4ed2NA0PMQ0QMgfSQXv4=; b=JWACAFQZn21ukn8n7cyQp+eimQU5wYy/D5hhCeh9J2HPZK6SCyYTnLPi6SK90cFXL3 zkRE0W7JoWO2BRB7/w0g1wTOlc+DFV6LyPGoXA9OgpqgAXcxf7lGB8zX0gsfTjlAk6t9 wF1Yw7V3m3O+Vxp9wveUNd/O+3y4jT4bjyCQk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:x-mailer:from; b=JwOHqnQb+QbRl8NhW6vPupVV8bubGYU28x7bovJKHRthfJ5X2wT74gI0yQ+GmL0MCN SRi3KZKqjY7UPQMyJxgq/CNVhUA1fut6k6Lc23s9MP+oleK8wwx0UTfikbXZ3Y21XQJX QFO1o4uhIDnRTtixJvntHT7a9BRD7CDcjHKg4= Received: by 10.64.151.10 with SMTP id y10mr4546305qbd.18.1224988336004; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bas2-montreal45-1242554840.dsl.bell.ca (bas2-montreal45-1242554840.dsl.bell.ca [74.15.225.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9sm3478049qbp.15.2008.10.25.19.32.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:32:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Charles Darwin Subject: `mail' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:54:51 -0000 Hi all, I need some help to get mail working on my mac: $ system_profiler SPSoftwareDataType |grep Version System Version: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33) Kernel Version: Darwin 9.5.0 I would like to be able to send mail's within my own network as well as over the Internet. Here part of my /var/log/mail.log while I was trying to send a test message using mail and/or postfix: Oct 21 08:13:42 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 4A7521F61D7: from=, size=303, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/pickup[324]: 080FD1FEF3F: uid=501 from= Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/cleanup[326]: 080FD1FEF3F: message-id=<20081021121343.080FD1FEF3F@bas2-montreal45-1279654045.dsl.bell.ca > Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 6E22817FC75: from=, size=304, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: B56C21F61F4: from=, size=303, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 93F9917FEFC: from=, size=304, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 080FD1FEF3F: from=, size=359, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: B3BB917FE7F: from=<>, size=2238, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: B807617FE80: from=<>, size=2232, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: BAA7F17FE82: from=<>, size=2236, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: BE481172602: from=<>, size=2046, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: C4FE417FC0D: from=, size=305, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/error[331]: 080FD1FEF3F: to=, relay=none, delay=0.63, delays=0.46/0.11/0/0.06, dsn=5.1.3, status=bounced (bad address syntax) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/cleanup[326]: 59B1D1FEF41: message-id=<20081021121343.59B1D1FEF41@bas2-montreal45-1279654045.dsl.bell.ca > Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 59B1D1FEF41: from=<>, size=2305, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/bounce[335]: 080FD1FEF3F: sender non-delivery notification: 59B1D1FEF41 Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 080FD1FEF3F: removed Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/local[339]: 59B1D1FEF41: to=, relay=local, delay=0.05, delays=0/0.05/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/local[339]: warning: service not found: biff/udp Oct 21 08:13:43 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: 59B1D1FEF41: removed Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[334]: connect to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[333]: connect to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[334]: B3BB917FE7F: to=, relay=none, delay=247947, delays=247916/0.09/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to bas2- montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[333]: B807617FE80: to=, relay=none, delay=247947, delays=247917/0.02/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to bas2- montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[336]: connect to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[337]: connect to bas2-montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[336]: BAA7F17FE82: to=, relay=none, delay=247947, delays=247917/0.06/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to bas2- montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[337]: BE481172602: to=, relay=none, delay=605971, delays=605941/0.06/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to bas2- montreal45-1279781140.dsl.bell.ca[76.71.233.20]: Operation timed out) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: BE481172602: from=<>, status=expired, returned to sender Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[328]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[329]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/qmgr[325]: BE481172602: removed Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[332]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[330]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.27]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:13 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/smtp[338]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.205.114]: Operation timed out (port 25) Oct 21 08:14:42 bas2-montreal45-1279654045 postfix/master[323]: master exit time has arrived Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 04:07:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5211106566C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFE28FC21 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.102]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:07:47 -0700 From: "FBSD1" To: "DSA - JCR" , Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:08:22 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 04:07:48.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[6806FF60:01C93720] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: RE: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:07:53 -0000 Go to www.a1poweruser.com and read section 13.7 Forgot Root password -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of DSA - JCR Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to restore a lost root password... Hi all I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installation ;D I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the console to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a message to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not? Some ideas? Thanks in advance Juan Coruña Desarrollo de Software Atlantico _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 04:12:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565AC1065673 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417A98FC19 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.102]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:12:42 -0700 From: "FBSD1" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:13:17 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 04:12:42.0456 (UTC) FILETIME=[17812D80:01C93721] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:12:47 -0000 How do it configure FreeBSD to restrict users to their home directory? I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 08:53:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32901065670 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407778FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9Q8rXSA034332; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:53:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 61AAFBA89; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:53:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:53:32 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: FBSD1 Message-ID: <20081026085332.GA97254@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:53:37 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:13:17PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: > How do it configure FreeBSD to restrict users to their home directory? You can give the users rbash as their shell. This will restrict them to the= ir home directory. But this can be easily broken out of if the user starts another shell! So you should disable all other shells for normal users. Otherwise you could put the users in a jail of their own. But they will still need system files (which they can see) in the jail for it to be usable. > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? User directories are by default both owned by the user and belong to the user's group. So you can set the umask for every user so that their files are not accessible to others. You cannot block read and execute access to a lot of system files (binaries, libraries, /usr/[local/]share/) without making the system useles= s. What is the problem you're trying to solve? Blocking read access to system files is almost certainly the wrong solution. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkEMAwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV0ZgCaAx5t15OuS2MduKwhW9Lr+BVB SP4AoJSzkdKF/Jn2Rf+YlHQ6AN+7Ooow =TfvD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 09:12:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9B4106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from outbound05.telus.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3648FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net ([75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081026091215.OLIJ25082.priv-edtnes90.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:12:15 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 18FE1811341BB0D7 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EC5645D; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4904346E.80907@telus.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:12:14 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gmirror + subset of partitions gjournal'd, autosync setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:12:17 -0000 I've built a GEOM mirror on a single slice of a single disk and am about to insert the second disk. Of the partitions in the mirror, I made only a few of them gjournal'd. I've seen it recommended that one disable autosynchronization for the mirror if using journaled filesystems. 1. Is that recommendation a must or a nice-to-have? What are the actual consequences of not taking that advice? 2. In a case like mine, the non-journaled partitions need autosychronization enabled to benefit from being mirrored, right? 3. Exactly how would I disable autosynchronization for the journaled partitions in the mirror, but not for the rest? Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 11:19:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC768106569A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay010.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay010.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480CD8FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoEAIPnA0lXQHcC/2dsb2JhbACBdb5Dg08 Received: from 2.119-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([87.64.119.2]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 26 Oct 2008 11:50:20 +0100 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9QAoGlV003512; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:50:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Gary Kline Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:50:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810261150.15405.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE 21.1.5 QUESTION... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:19:24 -0000 On Saturday 25 October 2008 03:55:26 Gary Kline wrote: > Maybe somebody here can clue me in on how to get a 1998, windose3.1/w95 > French-learning game to work on my newly built wine. I asked on the > Ubuntu forums and altho somebody did try to help; Zip. > > I do not have a clue to the DOS-path; it's a CDROM and since I'm using > the top CD/DVD optical drive, I'm guessing that it D:\; right? since C:\ > would be the harddrive. > > Otherwise, no clue. The disc is due back at the library soon so I want > to make the most of it ... even if it does crash every 355 minutes! You can setup drive letters using the drives tab in winecfg. So, insert cdrom, mount it, run winecfg and assign a drive letter to the mount point. If you have hal/dbus enabled most of this is done automatically. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 11:43:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE7B1065675 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CEF8FC22 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ku41N-0007HZ-4Q; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:43:01 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ku41M-0001N9-Fc; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:43:00 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:43:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49033CFB.5070100@janh.de> <200810252345.09076.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200810252345.09076.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810261143.00352.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 899ccedac9fc39c2737d08bdacf48391 Cc: Jan Henrik Sylvester Subject: Re: Gimp-help not working after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:43:03 -0000 As a follow-up to my last post I've discovered something very odd. If I run gimp from a terminal window using just the command gimp then I can access the local help files with no problem (but still can't load any files via http). If I run gimp from the KDE menu (or by pressing ALT+F2 and typing gimp into the run dialog then I get the "The GIMP user manual is not installed" error as before. I've tried to "run truss -p" on the process started from the KDE menu but truss aborts with a message "Cannot malloc -33677376 bytes for pollfd array: Cannot allocate memory" - yes thats a minus sign in front of 33677376). Any suggestions where I go from here? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 12:19:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702EE1065679 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BBC8FC25 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.102]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:19:15 -0700 From: "joeb" To: "Roland Smith" Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:19:51 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20081026085332.GA97254@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 12:19:15.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[102C67E0:01C93765] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:19:21 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:13:17PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: > How do it configure FreeBSD to restrict users to their home directory? You can give the users rbash as their shell. This will restrict them to their home directory. But this can be easily broken out of if the user starts another shell! So you should disable all other shells for normal users. Otherwise you could put the users in a jail of their own. But they will still need system files (which they can see) in the jail for it to be usable. > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? User directories are by default both owned by the user and belong to the user's group. So you can set the umask for every user so that their files are not accessible to others. You cannot block read and execute access to a lot of system files (binaries, libraries, /usr/[local/]share/) without making the system useless. What is the problem you're trying to solve? Blocking read access to system files is almost certainly the wrong solution. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Roland Smith Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 4:54 PM To: FBSD1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory Want to keep all the users from being able to see anything outside of their home directory using gnome or kde desktop. For a test I vipw a test user changing their /bin/csh to /usr/local/bin/rbash. I logged on ok to the test user and started gnome ok. But from the menu system filesystem app I still could access root and /etc directories. From the command line of the rbash test user a cd command responded with restricted comment. It seems rbash restrictions do not also restrict directory access from within gnome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 13:14:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4A4106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD568FC1C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9QDEp2b053769; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:14:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F0936BA98; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:14:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:14:50 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: joeb Message-ID: <20081026131450.GA82837@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081026085332.GA97254@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:14:57 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:19:51PM +0800, joeb wrote: >> > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other users? >>=20 >> User directories are by default both owned by the user and belong to the >> user's group. So you can set the umask for every user so that their >> files are not accessible to others. >>=20 >> You cannot block read and execute access to a lot of system files >> (binaries, libraries, /usr/[local/]share/) without making the system >> useless. >>=20 >> What is the problem you're trying to solve? Blocking read access to >> system files is almost certainly the wrong solution. >>=20 > Want to keep all the users from being able to see anything outside of > their home directory using gnome or kde desktop.=20 I ask again, why?=20 As outlined above, you can easily keep users from poking around in other's files. Realize that if users cannot read anything outside their home directory, th= ey cannot start programs in the system directories!=20 And since normal users do not have write access to system directories or files, they can do little harm. System files that users shouldn't have access to (e.g. /etc/master.passwd) are already chmod-ed so that only root has access. You could put every user in a jail(8), but that would be a significant effort depending on the amount of applications they need.=20 Realize that if the users have physical access to the machine, these security measures are _useless_. A hostile user could take out the harddisk, put it in a machine where he has a root account and read all the disk's contents (unless it's encrypted). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkEbUoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV9/ACfacpZapelCNj0Od6Q4R47wcPM bfwAn28eHSoxhjaQQX6+z7egkpbgyQk7 =LxPF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 14:17:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27148106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3C=99394c1b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC808FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3C=99394c1b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24005163DEF for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F45D05A6 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:05:12 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081026140512.2813a544@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4902C5B6.7090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20081025013323.5483e265@gumby.homeunix.com> <4902C5B6.7090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: duplicate a drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:17:13 -0000 On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:07:34 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > RW wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:23 -0600 (MDT) > > Warren Block wrote: > > > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK > >> > > > > "The best way is to reinstall the OS on the new disk, then move the > > user data over. This is highly recommended if you have been > > tracking -STABLE for more than one release, or have updated a > > release instead of installing a new one." > > > > > > "Highly recommended" seems a very strange thing for the FAQ to be > > saying. It's implying that FreeBSD base-system upgrades are a > > bit flaky. It even goes on "Should you decide not to do a fresh > > install", as if to say "you have been warned". > > > > Unless my experience is abnormal, we seem to be publishing our own > > FUD. > > When does a valid assessment of the difficulty of a certain course of > action turn into an unjustified attempt to spread Fear, Uncertainty > and Doubt? This is not FUD because it is absolutely true. You will > get better results by making a new install on your new hard drive and > merging over your data. ... install 7.x into a disk layout originally > designed for 4.x you ... change from UFS1 to UFS2 ... across major > version numbers I don't think anyone would dispute that a new disk is a good opportunity to avoid a major release upgrade, or to fix problems on a very old installation. What it says is: "highly recommended if you ... have updated a release". If you have a system that's been across a few minor releases and is working well, I would think the risks of screwing it up on a reinstall greatly outweigh any benefits - particularly if it involves reinstalling a lot of ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 15:19:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA0D1065673 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289908FC33 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084535089D; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:19:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9QFJJ1v001513; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:19:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:19:18 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20081026161918.29920948.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> References: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: WINE 2 1.1.5 QUESTION... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:19:23 -0000 On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:55:26 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I do not have a clue to the DOS-path; it's a CDROM and since I'm using > the top CD/DVD optical drive, I'm guessing that it D:\; right? since C:\ > would be the harddrive. It's a long long time ago that I've used wine, mostly for gaming-experiments. But I remember a kind of symlink strukture inside ~/.wine called dosdevices/ that included pointers to directories, e. g. the system's root directory and the user's home directory, and maybe mountopoints (or device files?) of removable media. Maybe it is documented in "man wine" how to use this? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 16:22:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF381065672 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CA28FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with SMTP id m9QG2BIE013141 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:58:48 +0100 From: dick hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081026165848.f720da24.dick@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <20081026131450.GA82837@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081026085332.GA97254@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20081026131450.GA82837@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: restrict FreeBSD users to their home directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:22:42 -0000 On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:14:50 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:19:51PM +0800, joeb wrote: > > >> > I don't want them to be able see any system directories or other > >> > users? > >> > >> User directories are by default both owned by the user and belong > >> to the user's group. So you can set the umask for every user so > >> that their files are not accessible to others. > >> > >> You cannot block read and execute access to a lot of system files > >> (binaries, libraries, /usr/[local/]share/) without making the > >> system useless. > >> > >> What is the problem you're trying to solve? Blocking read access to > >> system files is almost certainly the wrong solution. > >> > > Want to keep all the users from being able to see anything outside > > of their home directory using gnome or kde desktop. > > I ask again, why? The only thing I can imagine is that he is worried about the privacy of other users files. If that is the case a chmod 700 on the directories and a chmod 600 on the (user) files would give a little privacy for others. It's very difficult to see each others files that way. As you already stated: system files are a totally different story. Users should not have to worry about them. > Realize that if the users have physical access to the machine, these > security measures are _useless_. A hostile user could take out the > harddisk, put it in a machine where he has a root account and read all > the disk's contents (unless it's encrypted). You're right here but I get the feeling this is beside the point of the OP question. ;-) -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxce snv99 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 18:26:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A771065684 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [65.19.145.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CB6E8FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 64.142.42.100 ([64.142.42.100]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:10:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4904B2A8.3000102@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:10:48 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:26:42 -0000 freebsd-questions: I am attempting to build a desktop machine using FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) and am having trouble building firefox3: 20081026-104652 root@p43400e /usr/ports/www/firefox3 # make ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on package: nspr>=4.7 - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on executable: zip - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/printproto. pc - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - fou nd ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xt.pc - fou nd ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xi.pc - fou nd ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - f ound ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - fo und ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xinerama.pc - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - fo und ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xproto.pc - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> firefox-3.0.3,1 depends on executable: update-desktop-database - not foun d ===> Verifying install for update-desktop-database in /usr/ports/devel/deskto p-file-utils ===> Installing for desktop-file-utils-0.15_1 ===> desktop-file-utils-0.15_1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> desktop-file-utils-0.15_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/gio/modules/lib giofam.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/gio/modules/libgiofam.so in /usr/po rts/devel/gio-fam-backend ===> Building for gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"GLib-GIO\" -I.. /.. -I../../glib -I../../gmodule -I../../gio -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -DGIO_MODUL E_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gio/modules\" -DGIO_COMPILATION -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -O 2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -export_dynamic -avoid-version -module -no-un defined -export-symbols-regex '^g_io_module_(load|unload)' -L/usr/local/lib -lin tl -o libgiofam.la -rpath /usr/local/lib/gio/modules libgiofam_la-fam-helper.lo libgiofam_la-fam-module.lo libgiofam_la-gfamdirectorymonitor.lo libgiofam_la-gfa mfilemonitor.lo -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lfam rm -fr .libs/libgiofam.exp generating symbol list for `libgiofam.la' /usr/bin/nm -B .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-helper.o .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-module.o .libs/libgiofam_la-gfamdirectorymonitor.o .libs/libgiofam_la-gfamfilemonitor.o | sed -n -e 's/^.*[ ]\([ABCDGIRSTW][ABCDGIRSTW]*\)[ ][ ]*\([_A- Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*\)$/\1 \2 \2/p' | /usr/bin/sed 's/.* //' | sort | uniq > .libs /libgiofam.exp /usr/bin/grep -E -e "^g_io_module_(load|unload)" ".libs/libgiofam.exp" > ".libs/ libgiofam.expT" mv -f ".libs/libgiofam.expT" ".libs/libgiofam.exp" cc -shared .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-helper.o .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-module.o .lib s/libgiofam_la-gfamdirectorymonitor.o .libs/libgiofam_la-gfamfilemonitor.o -Wl, --rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib /usr/ local/lib/libintl.so -lgio-2.0 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/l ibglib-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libfam.so -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgiofam.so -Wl,-retain -symbols-file -Wl,.libs/libgiofam.exp -o .libs/libgiofam.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/desktop-file-utils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/firefox3. If I understand the above, the linker is unable to find the file gio-2.0. STFW I found something similar: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-May/048813.html But I don't understand the answer: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-May/048814.html and I don't know if it is applicable -- I have been attempting KDE, not Gnome. But, I'll use any desktop that supports Firefox, Thunderbird, and Open Office. Any suggestions? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 18:55:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53C210656A5 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A4C8FC26 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XUiR1a00f0b6N64A1WvHuF; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:17 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XWvG1a0092P6wsM8PWvGie; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VCPUiMK1QXgA:10 a=n6ldjYkRC5cA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=lqlxbKOSjqoyQLoNa5wA:9 a=XHHZJRukgQqcNutUPsfN2VqhlGUA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEF71C9419; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:55:15 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: David Christensen Message-ID: <20081026185515.GA1483@icarus.home.lan> References: <4904B2A8.3000102@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4904B2A8.3000102@holgerdanske.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Freebsd-Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:18 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:10:48AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > freebsd-questions: Try freebsd-ports for this question, as your issue is with a port. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 18:57:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A678B106566C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38C198FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2117 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Oct 2008 18:57:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=t58HjzrXXBikwdS6B32oYTP8akidDJe2aZkBbYWK9ZqKQ7MEsX8HvJDJxw8Ny8nvHalKBvrPNQDplJeQPazgOWV0UE3Dm0VFN3yGEjXXfZ2caZQeLeqIN6y3KNwDe9BZmoUvnlxZIJfi5KNbxQGFprOhdtF64zw5sirbF92lH8o=; X-YMail-OSG: skItRjwVM1k7qIzhzNawBaCIlFUgLirXhAWcRdFqt.lm3PmgO7MsT2ySHv2MTAcprzb0hfEqNLhMdzlwgI_XCOzq1q9ymEyX_jSGGkpLAsxZpUVPgJkFQf3QclrmJeDz41IwkXVIJSU5BNsWBI.EGyD.dg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:57:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Freebsd-Questions , David Christensen In-Reply-To: <4904B2A8.3000102@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:57:58 -0000 --- On Sun, 10/26/08, David Christensen wrote: > From: David Christensen > Subject: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 > To: "Freebsd-Questions" > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 2:10 PM > freebsd-questions: > > If I understand the above, the linker is unable to find the > file > gio-2.0. STFW I found something similar: > The answer is to upgrade your devel/glib20 port to the latest version, then try to install or upgrade libgiofam, then install the other software. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 19:24:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5251A106566C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3C=99394c1b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295668FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3C=99394c1b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EEFD0502 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:24:30 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081026192430.0ea2fb23@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> References: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: WINE 21.1.5 QUESTION... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:24:53 -0000 On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:55:26 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > Maybe somebody here can clue me in on how to get a 1998, > windose3.1/w95 French-learning game to work on my newly built wine. > I asked on the Ubuntu forums and altho somebody did try to help; Zip. > > I do not have a clue to the DOS-path; it's a CDROM and since > I'm using the top CD/DVD optical drive, I'm guessing that it D:\; > right? since C:\ would be the harddrive. I don't know that you actually need to know that. I think you could probably just mount the disk, cd to it, and install or run it from the command line. > Otherwise, no clue. The disc is due back at the library soon > so I want to make the most of it ... even if it does crash every 355 > minutes! You might also try dosbox if the game is DOS compatible. In the mid-nineties at lot of games were either pure DOS applications or had separate windows/dos binaries on the disk, 1998 is a bit late for this though. > The disc is due back at the library soon I doubt anyone would care if you copied it at this stage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 19:40:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113A7106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f15.google.com (mail-gx0-f15.google.com [209.85.217.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F4C8FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1570455gxk.19 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cRtxwfBXn5VZfD3ITwlkEZ/NiYf0h5eUB9IK11Gsj64=; b=LnKwOKqAaaK8+zTpEUdGi6aHodOlk099nLjPv47+6rQ5JJ8vaHXeAVvxMyPphuxUbh Yf2JIYr/dQ1igOQpzE6nTQn6Aowf+uWmtc4+E/bU4hsnU6UgLTpaZ+BGnuxBJCoKQcMX UaXDXq1aJ+gC8zdEHMH+OqzVqQ3eVzG+byDeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O73IyvNU8Rv9Oj52L4GrgtAT1ZceqwKcvBHNeegQ8rFNBR/s7wsWjpa7c6np7tgCwz JfZl+RemJcn7VNM20CGplf0pRiHARwkm43v/VrWrRrFuakuOrnvSBR/fZFyQrB561CbC CEbuqaISkEQ2d4SX4Y0SDwaoPSNIq9QvF3FlY= Received: by 10.90.29.17 with SMTP id c17mr3852991agc.13.1225048321617; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm4945012wra.41.2008.10.26.12.12.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4904C0F6.1020306@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:11:50 -0400 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert References: <20081020103839.369884cf@asus64> <20081025105151.0e689dc6@asus64> In-Reply-To: <20081025105151.0e689dc6@asus64> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disappearing mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:40:03 -0000 Robert wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:38:39 -0700 > Robert wrote: > >> Greetings FreeBSD >> >> When running XFCE4 I will lose the mouse pointer at times. This will >> only happen when I have the driver set to "nv" in xorg.conf. The mouse >> will still work as I can see where it is when I pass over icons and >> watch them highlight. If I can stop on an icon, I can click and it >> works. >> >> If I drop out of the XFCE4 using ctl-alt-backspace, the mouse pointer >> appears and all is well. If I restart the XFCE4, there is no pointer. >> If I change the driver to "vesa" and restart then I have a pointer >> again. The only way I have found to regain the pointer using "nv" is >> to reboot. >> >> All ports are up to date and I am running amd64 RELENG_7 as of last >> Saturday. >> >> uname -a >> FreeBSD asus64.shasta204.local 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE >> #1: Sat Oct 18 13:31:00 PDT 2008 >> root@asus64.shasta204.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> If I should have posted to a different list please let me know. I have >> also attached my xorg.conf. >> >> TIA >> >> Robert > > Five days and no responses, so maybe more information. On this computer > I have on board GeForce 6100. > > vgapci0@pci0:0:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x81bf1043 > chip=0x024210de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' > device = 'GeForce 6100' > class = display > subclass = VGA > > I have the same exact release and ports running on a different computer > equipped with a GeForce 6800 XT in an AGP slot without a problem. The > big difference is that other computer is running i386. It is using "nv" > driver without any problems. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction. Feel free to tell me where > to go. :-) > > Thanks > Robert > This seems like a very strange problem. Let's try focusing on XFCE first. Are any processes conflicting with drawing something on the screen, from your description it seems like XFCE is a problem, but do other window managers do the same thing ? If it's not wm specific then I'd try chasing down the developers of xf86-video-nv . Here is a starting point : http://www.t2-project.org/packages/xf86-video-nv.html Does the driver support any sort of 'debug' mode that you could log to file ? .... Taking a walk through xf86-video-nv, it looks like there are a few bitshift and & operators that use pointer and move things to and fro. ( in 64-bit land that maybe these moves should be handled differently ? Or are these magic numbers? ) Take a look into the source, nv_cursor.c Examining these lines : #if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN if ( m & 0x80000000) *dst = ( b & 0x80000000) ? pNv->curFg : pNv->curBg; else *dst = TRANSPARENT_PIXEL; This case draws the pixel transparently if it fails the test -- which seems to coincide with what you're seeing. This is just a wild guess, it could be used elsewhere though with the same affect. But then again, since this is working at all, then it may point to 1. the wm 2. Xorg may have a problem reporting it to the wm Hope it helps. Report back if you have any progress. Later, Bryant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 20:07:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC92106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [65.19.145.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D986C8FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 64.142.42.100 ([64.142.42.100]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:07:14 -0700 Message-ID: <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:07:17 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Freebsd-Questions@Freebsd.Org" References: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:07:15 -0000 mdh wrote: > The answer is to upgrade your devel/glib20 port to the latest version, then try to install or upgrade libgiofam, then install the other software. Thank you for your response. :-) Here's my attempt to carry out your suggestions: 20081026-122203 root@p43400e ~ # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. ... Building new INDEX files... done. 20081026-122344 root@p43400e ~ # cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 20081026-122615 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/glib20 # make ... gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.16.5' 20081026-125854 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/glib20 # cd ../gio-fam-backend 20081026-125954 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend # make ===> Building for gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link cc -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"GLib-GIO\" -I.. /.. -I../../glib -I../../gmodule -I../../gio -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -DGIO_MODUL E_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/gio/modules\" -DGIO_COMPILATION -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -O 2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -export_dynamic -avoid-version -module -no-un defined -export-symbols-regex '^g_io_module_(load|unload)' -L/usr/local/lib -lin tl -o libgiofam.la -rpath /usr/local/lib/gio/modules libgiofam_la-fam-helper.lo libgiofam_la-fam-module.lo libgiofam_la-gfamdirectorymonitor.lo libgiofam_la-gfa mfilemonitor.lo -lgio-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lfam rm -fr .libs/libgiofam.exp generating symbol list for `libgiofam.la' /usr/bin/nm -B .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-helper.o .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-module.o .libs/libgiofam_la-gfamdirectorymonitor.o .libs/libgiofam_la-gfamfilemonitor.o | sed -n -e 's/^.*[ ]\([ABCDGIRSTW][ABCDGIRSTW]*\)[ ][ ]*\([_A- Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*\)$/\1 \2 \2/p' | /usr/bin/sed 's/.* //' | sort | uniq > .libs /libgiofam.exp /usr/bin/grep -E -e "^g_io_module_(load|unload)" ".libs/libgiofam.exp" > ".libs/ libgiofam.expT" mv -f ".libs/libgiofam.expT" ".libs/libgiofam.exp" cc -shared .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-helper.o .libs/libgiofam_la-fam-module.o .lib s/libgiofam_la-gfamdirectorymonitor.o .libs/libgiofam_la-gfamfilemonitor.o -Wl, --rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib /usr/ local/lib/libintl.so -lgio-2.0 /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/l ibglib-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libfam.so -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgiofam.so -Wl,-retain -symbols-file -Wl,.libs/libgiofam.exp -o .libs/libgiofam.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. So, I'm back where I started -- /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 Any suggestions? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 20:21:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67A9106566C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A587B8FC1B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A575C77 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:22:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1225052545; bh=X/akx9jynQt13jdp+NodPhTJ/N3d A5UO7QzN9h1rrSY=; b=ikHu4Vwfv8vtTS0/QfX3sJn9kqdMpnJ4YexJ/xyd9WkB j/qmnrmROF+gpHTKYCF+//OLrWR92AeZl9xiQqab9hb/QC91Smd5P8E1MOVT1Nw8 XOA8Tad+Kbf+0MMfe7UJf6WvYZhaSIgZ++vw5a/l02+ox/CHfGiRflgZE77Ty80= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id pV-rkCCNcJcl for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:21:31 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081026202130.GA784@shepherd> References: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:21:34 -0000 David Christensen wrote: > mdh wrote: >> The answer is to upgrade your devel/glib20 port to the latest version, >> then try to install or upgrade libgiofam, then install the other software. >> > > Thank you for your response. :-) > > Here's my attempt to carry out your suggestions: > > 20081026-122203 root@p43400e ~ > # portsnap fetch update > Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > ... > Building new INDEX files... done. > > 20081026-122344 root@p43400e ~ > # cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 > > 20081026-122615 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/glib20 > # make > ... Do these ellipses include a 'make install'? Otherwise, that is likely your problem; devel/glib20 is not actually installed. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 20:48:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728AF106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2355E8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so469666ywe.13 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.144.9 with SMTP id r9mr3173399ybd.95.1225052305328; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.143.17 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:18:25 +0100 From: "Rada alive" To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: DSA - JCR , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:48:47 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:08 AM, FBSD1 wrote: > Go to www.a1poweruser.com and read section 13.7 Forgot Root password > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of DSA - JCR > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:56 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: How to restore a lost root password... > > Hi all > > I have lost the neuron where I stored the root password of an installatio= n > ;D > > I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the console > to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a message > to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. > > Is there a way to restore/modify it, or not? > > Some ideas? > > > Thanks in advance > > Juan Coru=F1a > Desarrollo de Software Atlantico > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What happened to just booting into single-user mode and issuing passwd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 21:05:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D8F106567F for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F7A8FC1E for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KuCo0-0004cE-O5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:48 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.174.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:48 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:04:50 -0400 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:05:53 -0000 David Christensen wrote: > mdh wrote: >> The answer is to upgrade your devel/glib20 port to the latest version, >> then try to install or upgrade libgiofam, then install the other >> software. > > Thank you for your response. :-) > > > Here's my attempt to carry out your suggestions: > > 20081026-122203 root@p43400e ~ > # portsnap fetch update > Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Since I use csup and have no experience with portsnap I can't speak to it's efficacy. > Building new INDEX files... done. > > 20081026-122344 root@p43400e ~ > # cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20 > > 20081026-122615 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/glib20 > # make If you previously had glib20-2.14.6 installed, you will need to do a 'make deinstall' prior to 'make reinstall'. > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.16.5' > > 20081026-125854 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/glib20 > # cd ../gio-fam-backend This is wrong somehow. You should be able to make && make deinstall && make reinstall the glib20 port without it going anywhere else. > 20081026-125954 root@p43400e /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend > # make Also please note that both the glib20 port *and* the gio-fam-backend both utilize the same glib20 tarball. It's just you need to build/install the glib20 (current version == 2.16.5) port first, then follow up by doing the gio-fam-backend port. Something is wrong with your setup as I just successfully built the gio-fam-backend port on my test machine with no difficulties encountered. -Mike [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 21:08:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72622106566B for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E518FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20081026210836.BDQZ2285.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:36 +0000 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20081026210836.ZSU21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:36 +0000 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 3FEC56182; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BDEC6167 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:32 +0000 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:32 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081026210832.GA20813@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qBzm7OuKNCoA:10 a=wD97yw_pUdIA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=bkJKvJ0hTLot4BKmKTsA:9 a=xF9-enG3SC1LylG9h0S_MZnAbt4A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=HP-il_O8zAMCjvxUKSQA:9 a=tX_2QrebB8AMfSRfkgRYx0I4RSIA:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:08:39 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:18:25PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: > > I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the conso= le > > to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a messa= ge > > to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. >=20 > What happened to just booting into single-user mode and issuing passwd? The OP made a point of letting us know that he has marked his console `insecure' in /etc/ttys. In order to even get a shell in single user, he needs the root password. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkE3FAACgkQixf5fBYiFmrMSwCgzoj/sIMiGWcNzBhkGKCWQwc8 4VUAniVrI4n+8ysPWlV6eBUPoII3oDiW =TMxL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 21:21:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9AE1065671 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7D88FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9QLLUQp042240; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:21:08 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Tijl Coosemans Message-ID: <20081026212108.GA66137@thought.org> References: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> <200810261150.15405.tijl@ulyssis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810261150.15405.tijl@ulyssis.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE, SUBJECT_NEEDS_ENCODING autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE 21.1.5 QUESTION... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:21:13 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:50:13AM +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Saturday 25 October 2008 03:55:26 Gary Kline wrote: > > Maybe somebody here can clue me in on how to get a 1998, windose3.1/w95 > > French-learning game to work on my newly built wine. I asked on the > > Ubuntu forums and altho somebody did try to help; Zip. > > > > I do not have a clue to the DOS-path; it's a CDROM and since I'm using > > the top CD/DVD optical drive, I'm guessing that it D:\; right? since C:\ > > would be the harddrive. > > > > Otherwise, no clue. The disc is due back at the library soon so I want > > to make the most of it ... even if it does crash every 355 minutes! > > You can setup drive letters using the drives tab in winecfg. > So, insert cdrom, mount it, run winecfg and assign a drive letter > to the mount point. If you have hal/dbus enabled most of this is > done automatically. hal/dbus are going. How do I mount the cdrom on C:\ ? I've already run winecfg and sound works, selected "Windows 95". -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 22:56:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4091065674 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A888FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9QMuJH8042809 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:56:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:55:56 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081026225551.GA69604@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: audio streaming without kmplayer, etc??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:56:02 -0000 Guys, Only bleep-Doze or linux works, and I'd like a clue how to stream mp3 files using X browser on FBSD. If I try to stream or d/load with konq, it asks if I want to Save, Cancel, or use KMplayer. For most audio-- streams that last several minutes to two hours--KMplayer is fine. But for the few French language sites that stream one or two syllables at a time, I wind up with multiple KMplayers. (And linguist-dunce that I am, I'll reply a word or phrase 20-30 times. Yes, sorry, but I'm that bad. How do I stream an mp3 file without using a player.... Or is there a way? (I'd use Ubuntu 8.10, but the port is busted right now. Besides, it's time that it just-worked with FreeBSD. We've already got the most rock solid server OS; why can't we go the additional few centimeters? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 23:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE3106566C for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088198FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9QNGwqr065126; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:16:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20081026225551.GA69604@thought.org> Message-ID: <20081026191459.B46788@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20081026225551.GA69604@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: audio streaming without kmplayer, etc??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:49:59 -0000 On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > Only bleep-Doze or linux works, and I'd like a clue how to stream mp3 > files using X browser on FBSD. If I try to stream or d/load with > konq, it asks if I want to Save, Cancel, or use KMplayer. For most > audio-- streams that last several minutes to two hours--KMplayer is > fine. But for the few French language sites that stream one or two > syllables at a time, I wind up with multiple KMplayers. (And > linguist-dunce that I am, I'll reply a word or phrase 20-30 times. > Yes, sorry, but I'm that bad. > > How do I stream an mp3 file without using a player.... Or is there a > way? (I'd use Ubuntu 8.10, but the port is busted right now. > Besides, it's time that it just-worked with FreeBSD. We've already > got the most rock solid server OS; why can't we go the additional few > centimeters? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but mplayer-plugin has worked under Firefox for a long time now. If you have a URL, I can try it from here. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 23:55:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB721065673 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42938FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9QNtrxM045864; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: (from kadmin@localhost) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.13.1/Submit) id m9QNtrTd045863; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kadmin) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:55:53 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081026235553.GA45810@ezekiel.daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:55:56 -0000 Hello, Quick thanks to Andrew Clark, Jeremy Chadwick, Tim Kellers, Jeff Goldberg, and anyone whose reply I've not seen re: this issue. Isn't hard, as several pointed out. Now I've sendmail listening on any port I want to. Problem is, still can't touch it from here (and you might have guessed, the base issue is a new provider of a lower-class service who I'm guessing only allows certain ports by default). So, I'm sure to have a frustrating couple hours with their tech support sometime Real Soon Now. Meantime, Mutt on the server via SSH is OK, I guess, for me, but no one else likes it ;-) Thanks again, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 23:44:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC261065681 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LennyCZ@eml.cc) Received: from mail.profitux.cz (mail.profitux.cz [82.208.21.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5153B8FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LennyCZ@eml.cc) Received: from serghey.a39.home ([::ffff:89.103.38.113]) (AUTH: LOGIN AMahdal@skockou.cz, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by mail with esmtp; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:34:34 +0100 id 0102A041.4904FE8A.00002027 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:34:42 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.org From: LennyCZ Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.61 (Win32) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:05:19 +0000 Cc: Subject: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:44:37 -0000 Hello! I would like to try FreeBSD on my machine, but I did not find any information regarding the ISO files on FreeBSD FTP sites. For example, in ISO directory for 7.0 release, I found these files: 7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso 7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso 7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso Please could you tell me which files I exactly need to download & burn to install a "normal" FreeBSD installation? Do I need all three *-disc[n] discs? If so, is there a DVD version available? Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 3 CDs from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet connection. So wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? Anyway, I believe that I'll enjoy FreeBSD and I'm looking forward to see it on my home machine and on my testing machine @ work :-) Thanks for your time! Greetings, Alois "LennyCZ" Mahdal -- Tato zpráva byla vytvoøena pøevratným po¹tovním klientem Opery: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 00:14:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8605C1065670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278978FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9R0EbfT043283; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:14:15 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20081027001415.GA71313@thought.org> References: <20081026225551.GA69604@thought.org> <20081026191459.B46788@tripel.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081026191459.B46788@tripel.monochrome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: audio streaming without kmplayer, etc??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:14:22 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 07:16:58PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > > >Only bleep-Doze or linux works, and I'd like a clue how to stream mp3 > >files using X browser on FBSD. If I try to stream or d/load with > >konq, it asks if I want to Save, Cancel, or use KMplayer. For most > >audio-- streams that last several minutes to two hours--KMplayer is > >fine. But for the few French language sites that stream one or two > >syllables at a time, I wind up with multiple KMplayers. (And > >linguist-dunce that I am, I'll reply a word or phrase 20-30 times. > >Yes, sorry, but I'm that bad. > > > >How do I stream an mp3 file without using a player.... Or is there a > >way? (I'd use Ubuntu 8.10, but the port is busted right now. > >Besides, it's time that it just-worked with FreeBSD. We've already > >got the most rock solid server OS; why can't we go the additional few > >centimeters? > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but mplayer-plugin has worked > under Firefox for a long time now. If you have a URL, I can try it from > here. > My bad. I guess I mis-clivked because at least usinf firefox I *do* get audio. (I did do a theraputic reboot.) But still at fault was that many of the graphics have that "broken-frame" square. I looked thru my configuration; found an add-oncalled "No-Script" and disabled it. Upon restarting firefox3, the site graphics are back. Live and learn:: *read* before on add a security feature. The free, non-commercial language site is down in Victoria.gov.au. http://www.education.vic.gov.au/languagesonline/ thanks much indeed, gary > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 00:24:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F7E106567A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2DE8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xaa31a0050cZkys53cPocp; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:23:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XcPz1a00K2P6wsM3WcQ0lp; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:24:00 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=8qvqhZSLlLm9nFbKjeoA:9 a=kxNnX0n0W-cdqjDC-DoA:7 a=W7If4MPbcGgU7Qkl3I4jauSiOXMA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7581CC9419; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:23:59 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20081027002359.GA7165@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081026235553.GA45810@ezekiel.daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081026235553.GA45810@ezekiel.daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:24:05 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 06:55:53PM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Hello, > > Quick thanks to Andrew Clark, Jeremy Chadwick, Tim Kellers, > Jeff Goldberg, and anyone whose reply I've not seen re: > this issue. > > Isn't hard, as several pointed out. Now I've sendmail listening > on any port I want to. Problem is, still can't touch it from > here (and you might have guessed, the base issue is a new provider > of a lower-class service who I'm guessing only allows certain > ports by default). Most consumer ISPs in the United States block two kinds of traffic to their customers' IP blocks: 1) Incoming SMTP (e.g. someIP:* --> yourIP:25) 2) Outbound SMTP (e.g. yourIP:* --> someIP:25) #2 has become prominent in the past few years, and is applied by ISPs because they want to curb their customers sending spam out onto the Internet (usually as a result of viruses, trojans, etc.), getting their IPs blocked by DNSBLs and giving them a bad social rep. Instead, they force customers to relay outbound mail through their own SMTP servers (called a "smart host" in sendmail terms). There's absolutely no way around this; you can beg them all you want, but the chances of them adding a pass-through for you is very slim. Story time again... My setup, just to give you some idea: my home LAN has a FreeBSD box used for all kinds of purposes. The box itself does not have direct Internet access (it sits behind a Linksys WRTSL54GS NAT router, which DOES NOT have incoming port 25/587 forwarded). The BSD box listens on localhost:25,587, and bsdIP:25,587. This allows other machines on the LAN to send mail through the BSD box, and of course local utilities on the BSD box to do the same. The Linksys router has two outbound firewall rules applied to it: it only allows bsdIP on my LAN to connect to someIP:25,587 -- thus, only one machine on my LAN is allowed to speak SMTP to the world. I do this purely as a precautionary measure (in case one of my friends comes over with his/her laptop, which happens to be infected and sends spam, etc. -- it won't work, period). All this worked great until Comcast put in place outbound SMTP filters, which stopped postfix from being able to connect to someIP:25 (where someIP is some random MX/mail server on the Internet). I was forced to set up "smart relaying", causing postfix to siphon all outbound mail through comcastmailserver:25, which worked fine for a few years. A couple months ago, Comcast stirred up the ants. They blocked my ability to send mail to anyIP:25 (including to their own SMTP servers!), citing "an incident of spam from my IP address". I asked them provide timestamps, Reference IDs, or even queue IDs, and also explained my LAN setup and how what they were claiming happened simply could not happen without my knowledge of it. They refused, as in in literally "We will not provide you any of that". Abuse and I got into a very long discussion on the phone about this, and told me a lot of conflicting things (more or less just inducing me to ask more questions, because their story didn't make any sense). They did eventually tell me what *day* the spam was sent, which allowed me to go look through my logs -- over and over, and I found absolutely no sign of any illegitimate mail in my mail logs. I was told they would lift the block (which was done at the cable modem level, not at the router level) if I could "permanently guarantee no more incidents of spam". I told them that was impossible to guarantee, because there *was no incident of spam* from my IP in the first place, and they were refusing to work with me to figure out how/why they were claiming that. So we sat there on the phone, silent, basically saying nothing -- a total standstill. Eventually they stated that I could send mail through their mail servers on port 587. I quickly set this up, and found it failed -- their servers require SMTP AUTH on port 587, no exceptions (note: this is NOT mandatory by the RFC; it's OPTIONAL). This meant I had to go through the pains of dealing with Cyrus SASL2 (thankfully postfix makes this easier to deal with than sendmail), and upon configuring it all, mail once again began to flow. That's how things remain now. The reason I do not like siphoning mail through Comcast: their mail servers are known to act wonky or /dev/null mail for mysterious reasons. I've had two separate incidents of me sending mail to individuals, witnessing Comcast's servers say "OK/accepted", but the mail never reached the destination. In one case, one recipient ran his own mail server, and was able to confirm that he saw absolutely no Comcast IP connect to his server during a 24 hour period. To this day the mail has never arrived. All the anti-spam advocates praise ISPs stepping in and becoming the "middle man" for spam siphoning/filtering, spanking users like this when incidents occur -- but when their setup fails or does what I've described above, they basically turn their cheek and ignore any sort of mistake or mishap. The fact that I cannot convince my ISP that I am a responsible Netizen is disheartening -- I should not need a business class connection to justify my responsibility. I hope the experience with your ISP is better than mine. Good luck. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 00:26:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AB91065671 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A088FC31 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xc3J1a00i0mv7h059cSp8U; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:26:49 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XcRx1a00k2P6wsM3XcRy4u; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:25:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eRxeISc1rmgA:10 a=Jh77GqAbcSgA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=j4adT7Vlbi2tEBrHKigA:9 a=GWIWnmR4aaRLTyJEmZAA:7 a=inzSFtumg5XHQvCCpjynMEkbsG8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 58372C9419; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:26:48 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: LennyCZ Message-ID: <20081027002648.GB7165@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:26:50 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:34:42AM +0100, LennyCZ wrote: > Hello! > > I would like to try FreeBSD on my machine, but I did not find any > information regarding the ISO files on FreeBSD FTP sites. > > For example, in ISO directory for 7.0 release, I found these files: > > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso > > Please could you tell me which files I exactly need to download & burn > to install a "normal" FreeBSD installation? Do I need all three *-disc[n] > discs? If so, is there a DVD version available? You only need one: 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso If you plan on installing many binary packages (from the installer, not once FreeBSD is installed), then you might also want "disc2". More importantly, I *strongly* recommend you download the 7.1-BETA2 ISO(s) instead. You'll find them in the releases/ directory on the FTP mirrors. > Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 3 CDs > from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet connection. You should try sending this note to most of the Linux distributions, many of which *require* a DVD drive (what makes you think everyone has one?), or require you to download 2 or 3 CDs. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 00:40:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A9D1065672 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F23B8FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.107.37] (c80-217-107-37.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.107.37]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9R0KtQs074339; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:20:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <49050969.1070001@bah.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:20:57 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: knews (FreeBSD-7.0p3-AMD64) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LennyCZ References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:40:56 -0000 LennyCZ said the following on 2008-10-27 00:34: > Hello! Hellu. > I would like to try FreeBSD on my machine, but I did not find any > information regarding the ISO files on FreeBSD FTP sites. > > For example, in ISO directory for 7.0 release, I found these files: > > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso If you do a network install then you only need the bootonly file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 00:43:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969F71065674 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651A98FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1714915rvf.43 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :from; bh=Q+TvtX6Vf2VVjgHdv0Ejo5eDEQNS27zfVTEE0e/4m1M=; b=AZ3vjhhP5x85MmMntd9v+OWQvP4TKYjqHzOm8ST5T2O5eXwjAlYeXSOBGH4fxVXI8f h/aRYE1uQBfML+571JTYiS9ttn/erIqZCuMWI+c2CsNvy4rWtoIEb6+k7ut1xrGN60tY 2tMh2R2o/518//i2prwNFW/9yvmEuoiwZNZTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; b=VdR+q6SC1+O9OF5iwkO5p97EpjRvdsV5bPx06uROrEPq5YvyjUO6uDoQvHnVzFP0P3 rjo8e6W5Ivbdn7EIt5sDO76GpwZlE1nV9mH5aDJGpYemH4YNTE0xBp33sGPIk9/D5QV9 tNMKJu4Iy+LpiqvmYJ1LVFMB45a+eTLzf1RLo= Received: by 10.141.115.6 with SMTP id s6mr2847545rvm.224.1225066221188; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? (ool-182d26f3.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.38.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21sm9285355rvb.5.2008.10.26.17.10.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490506E8.2090808@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:10:16 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LennyCZ References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eitan Adler Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:43:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 LennyCZ wrote: > Please could you tell me which files I exactly need to download & burn > to install a "normal" FreeBSD installation? Do I need all three *-disc[n] > discs? If so, is there a DVD version available? I'm going to call "normal" "highly minimalistic" and say you only disk - -disk1. Unless you are installing ports I don't think you need anything else. Ports should be done using portsnap. - -- GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkFBugACgkQtl8kq+nCzNFjVwCePiAHX72kTYin9eEk7sKYBdxq DiQAn2Th5T1dwzyFAhkRqEWww5gAzbz7 =Mr7s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 03:01:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FD71065679 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [65.19.145.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 198D38FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from 64.142.42.100 ([64.142.42.100]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:01:01 -0700 Message-ID: <49052EF1.2090701@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:01:05 -0700 From: David Christensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Freebsd-Questions@Freebsd.Org" References: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:01:02 -0000 Sahil Tandon wrote: > Do these ellipses include a 'make install'? Otherwise, that is likely > your problem; devel/glib20 is not actually installed. Michael Powell wrote: > If you previously had glib20-2.14.6 installed, you will need to do a 'make > deinstall' prior to 'make reinstall'. ... > then follow up by doing the gio-fam-backend port. Thank you both for your help. :-) I didn't understand the need to do a make deinstall/ reinstall on glib20. So I tried again: http://holgerdanske.com/node/392 devel/glib20 and gio-fam-backend seemed to go okay. I think I got further into firefox3, but it failed: configure: error: Library requirements (cairo >= 1.6.0 freetype2 fontconfig) not met What's next? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 03:12:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1741065676 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7098C8FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1673930fgb.35 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:12:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XnzFjKIIBxdEx1so+mnpu72FLRVzizLNlXonf/nhRdc=; b=mQWZ+5clJk73z3SLCRvzVp2RsqvogkbAJxAAln6/bIv7xsK0Cyz2imTvqdM7pIbthL jlseAMY08Ui/Yas82Itt4Czhg1k7aIlUs6vJyGY6zVMKp5q1IR8k7gcG+Nd02chgwXwZ DbhOJ68a6fPoFTN379GuzgVXP+nA7XVI5I+/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lcy8WMp5X0RIkwGMbbsjU24+IbuKihO9bZipGWI7MLbSOtoQ6CTtUuaV3TqugdPIpw +L3MpQspB/wj92yYKkOQdzcrSQTNJJjgecAHJjy+uPSbyEb51+VVZ0D6MQVBRUh+6Fdt +Nt3C2M7Dfu3nKMCPepNTo8sDGIr0dspn0ZPY= Received: by 10.86.66.19 with SMTP id o19mr2742182fga.18.1225077136813; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810262012u3d3b0864wdacd4e69c2cbec41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:12:16 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "David Christensen" In-Reply-To: <49052EF1.2090701@holgerdanske.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> <49052EF1.2090701@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Freebsd-Questions@Freebsd.Org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:12:19 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:01 PM, David Christensen < dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > Sahil Tandon wrote: > > Do these ellipses include a 'make install'? Otherwise, that is likely > > your problem; devel/glib20 is not actually installed. > > Michael Powell wrote: > >> If you previously had glib20-2.14.6 installed, you will need to do a 'make >> deinstall' prior to 'make reinstall'. >> > ... > >> then follow up by doing the gio-fam-backend port. >> > > Thank you both for your help. :-) > > > I didn't understand the need to do a make deinstall/ reinstall on glib20. > So I tried again: > > http://holgerdanske.com/node/392 > > > devel/glib20 and gio-fam-backend seemed to go okay. I think I got further > into firefox3, but it failed: > > configure: error: Library requirements (cairo >= 1.6.0 freetype2 > fontconfig) not met > > > What's next? > > > TIA, > > David > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > install these three cairo >= 1.6.0 freetype2 fontconfig make sure your ports tree is up to date as well with portsnap From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 03:20:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9300D1065679 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B388FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KuIey-0001QD-Jd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:20:52 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.174.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:20:52 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:20:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:19:56 -0400 Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: <678939.2091.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4904CDF5.7060400@holgerdanske.com> <49052EF1.2090701@holgerdanske.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) firefox3 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:20:58 -0000 David Christensen wrote: [snip] > > > devel/glib20 and gio-fam-backend seemed to go okay. I think I got > further into firefox3, but it failed: checking for cairo >= 1.6.0 freetype2 fontconfig... Requested 'cairo >= 1.6.0' but version of cairo is 1.4.10 This is telling you the cairo you have installed is old and needs to be updated, probably freetype2 and fontconfig as well. Essentially you have out of date dependencies, with the most common reason for this is having installed packages straight from the release ISOs and subsequently not upgrading them. Many old time FreeBSD'ers only install the system from the ISO, update their ports tree, and then install software. This ensures everything is current and all dependencies are tracked. What you have is a jumble of outdated dependencies which require updating. > > configure: error: Library requirements (cairo >= 1.6.0 freetype2 > fontconfig) not met > > > What's next? > [snip] You can update things manually one or two at a time[1], as you did for the glib20 port. Or you can automate the process. I use portupgrade for this. Now portupgrade has it's own learning curve, but it can make it easier to keep large numbers of ports all up to date. You probably need to learn a little more about how the ports system works. Once you have a more in depth understanding of how to install and maintain software on a FreeBSD system you won't see this kind of situation again. So rather than fixate on just bouncing from dependency to dependency, ad infinitum ad nauseum, try going back and reading up on this subject some more until you understand the process. -Mike [1] Like you did with glib20: make && make deinstall && make reinstall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 05:00:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638DD106567B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC428FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9R50Ne3009857; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:00:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9R4wh4x009640; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:58:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:58:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: LennyCZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081027055826.A9632@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1626729238-275268937-1225083523=:9632" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:00:36 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1626729238-275268937-1225083523=:9632 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso > > Please could you tell me which files I exactly need to download & burn > to install a "normal" FreeBSD installation? Do I need all three *-disc[n] > discs? If so, is there a DVD version available? if you are online just use bootonly > > Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 3 CDs > from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet connection. > So > wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? > > Anyway, I believe that I'll enjoy FreeBSD and I'm looking forward to > see > it on my home machine and on my testing machine @ work :-) > > > Thanks for your time! > > Greetings, > Alois "LennyCZ" Mahdal > > > > -- > Tato zpráva byla vytvoøena pøevratným po¹tovním klientem Opery: > http://www.opera.com/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --1626729238-275268937-1225083523=:9632-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 05:09:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051481065670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlopezqc@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C566A8FC19 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlopezqc@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1792049rvf.43 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=F+/jA/ySfrb8R6xRhC56fqxqeCIzShXAe8rzQj7qMLY=; b=jFUZokSupgrn2s3AfBGd1QHTk302SggPNU0dr2Gawmj5g3dMve6DlI5QUF/P3ySjzx fCU4zMlZbKHQ0nNAVo1rWC3lI4bXzA8kqLKS5LG3Ej1FUgury0DAL0wgLxvoao3M49N3 ZGy8T+BOlZrLvIbO1k9m9qgGZokPLaL6eu4aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=a9T0Yq/74PJO1Bhg/G4nVu01w9Y9XV3auh+OCoInOMdoqVMaq30hKbmQsz2L0AX8/2 jm/U/wN8TumqQcxAIbHkRyJ6DFaSl/eVPKHzpIhkTGJOPU2L6c/UjnidvHpDrw3zFUHC 0jUZ4R1XNrzaXzyGjvLQbDIAN2oO0gboWrpVk= Received: by 10.140.191.14 with SMTP id o14mr2989956rvf.130.1225084162518; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.83.6 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <520812780810262209v6a7345b9h3acfffded4e4ea15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:09:22 -0500 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Mauricio_L=C3=B3pez?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081026210832.GA20813@torus.slightlystrange.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <3378.84.18.11.147.1224942988.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> <20081026210832.GA20813@torus.slightlystrange.org> Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... 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Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EC28FC1F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.243]) by bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:12:20 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:12:20 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:12:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:12:19 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2008 08:12:20.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBCBC860:01C9380B] Cc: mlopezqc@gmail.com Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:12:21 -0000 Mauricio López wrote: >On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Daniel Bye > wrote: >>On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:18:25PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: >>>>I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the >>>>console >>>>to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a >>>>message >>>>to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. >>>What happened to just booting into single-user mode and issuing passwd? >>The OP made a point of letting us know that he has marked his console >>`insecure' in /etc/ttys. In order to even get a shell in single user, >>he needs the root password. >> > >As far as I know, from my previous Linux experience, you just need a >LiveCD in order to boot the PC, mount the / partition, edit >/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow and change the hash for one that correspond >to one we know. Perhaps you can make it in every UNIX. > Mauricio López wrote: >On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Daniel Bye > wrote: >>On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:18:25PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: >>>>I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the console >>>>to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a message >>>>to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. >>>What happened to just booting into single-user mode and issuing passwd? >>The OP made a point of letting us know that he has marked his console >>`insecure' in /etc/ttys. In order to even get a shell in single user, >>he needs the root password. >> > >As far as I know, from my previous Linux experience, you just need a >LiveCD in order to boot the PC, mount the / partition, edit >/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow and change the hash for one that correspond >to one we know. Perhaps you can make it in every UNIX. > This is similar to what Matthew Seaman was mentioning. I am curious though, might it be possible to boot from something like Freesbie (or a fixit disc), mount the drive, chroot to the actual install and run passwd like normal to change the password? Does root on FreeBSD ask to verify the old password when trying to change its own? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 09:10:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E981065671 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0389C8FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so671545nfh.33 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:10:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=tzbe7utgKU8WC8HgGP59+rj5xPLJwMNPagiHU3/8EYM=; b=ugqzk/li9kp29mh+Kyfgw32djEMYZfhuF2xcs0WjpyZLbrBD16ETOgXpx40r5kULSW L97mhbidLSrGPl66jxxrb9jbLxRCS7NSjqwUGkz+hPlAYakjl5GdIOEEQWRNnA9lQizl gWiOUZz0O6EybPnbLoBIEnE85nu6+5503yG2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CI13T/3tuiWVjLQNqZqOD6mpl5fTNTTTD+0Rql1YQpBcnQDHFJQdjNYfoQKHzwaeVX XAWb/ccpriAkIuwDi2LPiN6PdI1d8ba3Bvvh0W67Y/HovRmbD72Z+TkLUw6j/90QUUig 1TMuV0cxF2Vge1Kpp24AsYFQ11V3TtllUSnwo= Received: by 10.210.19.4 with SMTP id 4mr6334886ebs.173.1225098619691; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.137.13 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810270210o2e44bb3dlced325329fb824dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:10:19 +0100 From: "Valentin Bud" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: migrate server on freebsd amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:10:21 -0000 Hello list, I want your opinion about migrating a freebsd server to amd64. I have the following configuration: Motherboard: Intel S5000VSA CPU: Intel Xeon E5335 @ 2Ghz RAM: 2 x 1Gb DDR2 FB-DIMM 667Mhz HDD: 2 x 320 Gb SATA II + 1 x 500 Gb SATA II This server runs as a web / mail server using: Apache 2.2 MySQL 5.0 php 5 Imagick ghostscript postfix + dovecot openvpn Currently the server runs FBSD 7.0 i386 (RELENG_7). I plan to switch the server to amd64 and use ZFS. I want your suggestions about the above applications and their stability on 64 bit FBSD as well as suggestions about running ZFS on the given hardware. I will upgrade the RAM in the near future to 4 Gb. The CPU is out of the question because of the cost. I'm sorry if this is not the proper place to ask questions about FBSD amd64 but i thought that here are many people that might be using amd64 and come with some opinions. Thank you. all the best, v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 10:21:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1F31065670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewd@webzone.net.au) Received: from smtp.webzone.net.au (smtp.webzone.net.au [210.8.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9868FC25 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewd@webzone.net.au) Received: from ppp121-45-200-9.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net ([121.45.200.9] helo=[192.168.202.99]) by smtp.webzone.net.au with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KuPEL-0002rR-DU; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:51:50 +1030 Message-ID: <4905961A.20005@webzone.net.au> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:51:14 +1030 From: Andrew D User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Susbauer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AUTH-WEBZONE: andrewd@webzone.net.au successfully authed as username:andrewd Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mlopezqc@gmail.com Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:21:53 -0000 G'Day, Steven Susbauer wrote: > Mauricio López wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Daniel Bye --snip-- >> >> As far as I know, from my previous Linux experience, you just need a >> LiveCD in order to boot the PC, mount the / partition, edit >> /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow and change the hash for one that correspond >> to one we know. Perhaps you can make it in every UNIX. >> > This is similar to what Matthew Seaman was mentioning. > > I am curious though, might it be possible to boot from something like > Freesbie (or a fixit disc), mount the drive, chroot to the actual > install and run passwd like normal to change the password? Does root on yep. > FreeBSD ask to verify the old password when trying to change its own? > nope :) HTH cya Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 10:36:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB83106569C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47FC8FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so685952nfh.33 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=V8ImS1MNSAo3SG/RnGTYq03bvd+hrtoK7cLQQjGcwhI=; b=KJS/Tsmdgc3j2c6b9E8EKtpJGjVVTvrOgMMdhgYMTuvnrxtmImzOiRhL1pgAURf5xj 3QytSDjXgIxsCrFr0oov63ATDW7asU+Lc6VRXNNgmJkQmTGOTLEZenxvbTUFbpYKW6Oh 67eHtkVhJvuWuP+dopkH5Iurqx7sB6RiHDTho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; b=qw5iSKZj+idWKMYNRPngB5urg5fMO/zLkdHR1p/mF18YcjZwFR6hx0M03IREr0yQ/G FazCjX+6sKXhqTPNy2uf6tQDzC/WLb78j7+aRbcneh3RMWiAtw7h4rJvGEIsndQFUK6k CBtpHwaQagqHLVMX0Va7k3fki792iL5VnfXwE= Received: by 10.210.46.12 with SMTP id t12mr6449390ebt.22.1225102393392; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.68? (host217-43-152-224.range217-43.btcentralplus.com [217.43.152.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm7703535gve.9.2008.10.27.03.13.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:13:11 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Franck Royer Cc: Subject: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:14 -0000 Hi, That's my first real try of a bsd system. I installed pc bsd (the last version) on my macbook. I use refit to sync my dos and gui partition table. I already have many partitions : - fat32 (containing the firmware of the macbook) - hfsplus (mac os X + the files for efi) - ext2 ( /boot of my gentoo system ) - ufs (PCBSD) - ext3 (my /home of my gentoo system ) - some other stuff I would like to mount my /home in pcbsd. The problem is pcbsd populate the /dev only with the four first partitions. It's the partitions that are in the msdos table. Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? How can I access to my fifth partition ? If you need more informations or logs, just tell me :D Thank you. Franck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 10:37:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DA9106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE598FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAKs2BUlR9Nzp/2dsb2JhbACBdr8Wg08 Received: from 233.220-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.244.220.233]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2008 11:37:08 +0100 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9RAYs9X002612; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:34:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Gary Kline Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:34:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> <200810261150.15405.tijl@ulyssis.org> <20081026212108.GA66137@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20081026212108.GA66137@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810271134.53413.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE 21.1.5 QUESTION... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:37:10 -0000 On Sunday 26 October 2008 22:21:08 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:50:13AM +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> On Saturday 25 October 2008 03:55:26 Gary Kline wrote: >>> Maybe somebody here can clue me in on how to get a 1998, windose3.1/w95 >>> French-learning game to work on my newly built wine. I asked on the >>> Ubuntu forums and altho somebody did try to help; Zip. >>> >>> I do not have a clue to the DOS-path; it's a CDROM and since I'm using >>> the top CD/DVD optical drive, I'm guessing that it D:\; right? since C:\ >>> would be the harddrive. >>> >>> Otherwise, no clue. The disc is due back at the library soon so I want >>> to make the most of it ... even if it does crash every 355 minutes! >> >> You can setup drive letters using the drives tab in winecfg. >> So, insert cdrom, mount it, run winecfg and assign a drive letter >> to the mount point. If you have hal/dbus enabled most of this is >> done automatically. > > hal/dbus are going. How do I mount the cdrom on C:\ ? > I've already run winecfg and sound works, selected "Windows 95". No, you mount the cdrom like you normally would. If you use hal and the cdrom is mounted on /var/media/something, you need to tell wine (winecfg, drives tab) that whenever drive D: is accessed, it should look for the files in /var/media/something. After that you can run 'wine d:\\setup.exe'. You should see something like this in winecfg: C: ../drive_c D: /var/media/cd0 Z: / From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 12:05:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F74D1065685 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725048FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1144733wag.27 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=jAmUsedcsbHv9t0Yuf6D7W3dyuHVWVtF0hAqOMX61r4=; b=YJ7IL1thSjzWHrNiEsO9EEk0T8hx+AKZXI+n/nAd0wgvDOlGBT1Ohvuw1PX753KLJY DacwuO+H/89BK96wRJqjmd4ERIDR49gF3GcVIauYWsroCYtDstABrHZ9OSvsrWMbFKT8 b+ak1QS6Jt5EhqAo3o1PSaNL7ZfMme2jWvkHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=s0Y2Yi1T3FYHbpQIwZo7VZzbnBSEdSJNKSrFnBKbpwcUrgrZ9YSmYdw1uv2JLY4QJi 1s9v4J2znIb3W4O+jcQHnTDWKGxPj2+I5++Bb/1AD9Geumj1rMEQZ9MhFeKJGgjwJ5+V B1mweOChOqUh3n4H+DHz+34Z+RD0NRUbWStbs= Received: by 10.115.18.1 with SMTP id v1mr5126092wai.107.1225109099426; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.66.18 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:04:59 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:05:00 -0000 Hello List, Suppose I have 100 Desktops, and I want my DHCP server to _only_ assign IP addresses to these hosts, using MAC addresses, is there a way to tell the DHCP server to NOT assign any IP address to a machine whose MAC address it doesn't know? I don't want any computer being plugged onto my LAN and getting/using resources without my knowledge. Just some level of paranoia:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Life must be understood backwards; but... it must be lived forward." - Soren Kierkegaard "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 12:56:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F087106566C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5558FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9RCuU0b011915; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:56:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9RCuUUf011912; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:56:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:56:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Valentin Bud In-Reply-To: <139b44430810270210o2e44bb3dlced325329fb824dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081027135553.W11904@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <139b44430810270210o2e44bb3dlced325329fb824dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrate server on freebsd amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:56:39 -0000 while it's strange you haven't installed amd64 at first place, why migrating WORKING thing? if it works fine - don't touch. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:08:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4248B106567C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D038FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so509198yxb.13 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IsqiVnIng5BJ1graW9lQd0yifLWlmL5Rs7vcBbTBsCA=; b=FJBv2wuGeZKb+cfCQoPlJAcEiFiRulSDw3MqjsJr/l77zwJQub0+5y4ihda9fQkHWt wFn7u/oK5adkFvKShjw+2G/KuGzhpBs1YZaDo0YUcMEjA9hROfhA8OiUmZPA/akLJTEx bzrmN/fHxJ9RBJXeuHbjDyJF7di0YYCCcv0vc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=TTsnWL0f0uUGy/jFSxfEaCDW48aGVXtAntsWWCh1nHxs825tudqJ3xEJGXTTdY2wAL XACUorzeROnONoLmTIcREx9I5FgdOzhC00sAW9WF0Mh++q2GNvWetLC6+V8bGLMVxO/r E8mazD13c7Vq35gsBdrG6cBjkW31LFkywH0k4= Received: by 10.142.49.20 with SMTP id w20mr2654423wfw.303.1225112880782; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810270608i38dba31fu1a126a5a63ffd8ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:08:00 +0100 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20081027135553.W11904@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <139b44430810270210o2e44bb3dlced325329fb824dd@mail.gmail.com> <20081027135553.W11904@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrate server on freebsd amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:08:02 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > while it's strange you haven't installed amd64 at first place, why > migrating WORKING thing? if it works fine - don't touch. I didn't install amd64 from the start because my knowledge at the time I installed the server were very limited and i was afraid of problems that might arise in the amd64 system, problems that i couldn't handle at that time. By migrating i mean fresh install. thank you, v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:12:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5669106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971F48FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2017988wfg.7 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:12:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Y6zCT7/5y8ub/s9H2/BVSUD3Jg0/mqCxCuvDRtBvkpM=; b=qobi4zHNCuzXdGHYFgpo+bh9hZCEmcLxst0keQW4Tx61AYMPhS1gQ3HK+wnIqA1Emg 8fTN7nO7o6wAjGKakByEJINhuAWYfrn3MW3LxRjofgIFSFQR/iCQQriH9ZSP0A/k8ZXv okd1qQUGZookJvLwZXgSdB7q8le9YViE0bH3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Rr2IZgrnyVdLMGp1lgWbMbxDaJyFOI5kkIy/a9jCYlf9OQMyk+2p4DtPAcBWM6G7cz dQTFw5c3NYMaewO5GwWzIQZGLM2urtNWUYakthJ6tM0LDC7jpQ03CuIbJhekQg0jeouF XW/Zpj1C0k75FD13q5HvQ50uDki94xFzSyEvo= Received: by 10.115.58.18 with SMTP id l18mr2860887wak.12.1225113162049; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.66.18 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:12:41 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Deian Popov" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:12:42 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Deian Popov wrote: > Hello, > try "deny unknown-clients;" and may be "boot-unknown-clients false;" in > dhcpd.conf Hi Deian, You guys are great! Thank you very much. One response I got off list was that I could use "deny unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside it? BTW, why did you delete the "b" from your name?:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Life must be understood backwards; but... it must be lived forward." - Soren Kierkegaard "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:16:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94560106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8B28FC1F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so510782ywe.13 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:16:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3SXKuCl0ibmDH015N+A350OGVz3sWqLJkB/Ke+pB1RA=; b=WxWjl1GGOJmiqn0uDGXNju5lTNRgLZhMJSgHJwo1GJpAlD3Z5o0UbyDaNbVF5mY0Si 1eH5PrWpJBatXPLXN4cblTMQ6zDPhb1ynGm1KIHWHxTMhYSRlYl1VPzkfCIJELZ5iWQy Zl6I8cwba9OmMU4PKo0jiYPZebiAEyT78UBGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=npryK54XHtCD8I3AlCXAdukCLyrN5Q5TPS/xfBA2GW6cT1PScAB3cU1/eNgHcL+Xc6 ZR9EV2CB0xj8rK8DP182zmnw5i7eTU1Si5kY40w/HDljC/7YXkUinOG2L/hIAXgMbViK 4oTnvNxo0WhF2dXM64Qw4v3pEgtxIx5rTfMk8= Received: by 10.142.156.2 with SMTP id d2mr2661076wfe.321.1225113365137; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810270616t72f52a76k7c5dfe22757d056d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:16:05 +0100 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Odhiambo Washington" In-Reply-To: <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Deian Popov , User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:16:06 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Deian Popov wrote: > > Hello, > > try "deny unknown-clients;" and may be "boot-unknown-clients false;" in > > dhcpd.conf > > Hi Deian, > > You guys are great! > > Thank you very much. > > One response I got off list was that I could use "deny Sorry for the off list response. It's my mistake of pressing Reply instead of Reply All, like i did now. all the best, v > > unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... > is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside > it? > > BTW, why did you delete the "b" from your name?:-) > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "Life must be understood backwards; but... it must be lived forward." > - Soren Kierkegaard > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:20:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3AD10656A7 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5268FC52 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1160281wag.27 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:20:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=82iaU/nFGtBKS/vL0/aA57weBrthO4QzwpUhyDuqxFo=; b=Fcr9XFFK1W20kZZ7V8Lshh1RbPheClrqZ/dIVXhsM6kB6JhpRcj5lcS7HeFbZex3D1 TcGkwhylGxoGHH7RwSoVXGgA2EkHc9/SgBo6d2uBvVVsh/n2cYWjOI4N/4kYavuEQmHM y/qu4f9O+GEU++Yk0P3YA+DldyYtK2iXuiEhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=m9tNs2IwdMl86NY5WregQqZFRK6YCEFp3REP2Ayb7rc2Y6OKq3veU/0dqHoU+IeDtv s/v9WNkcSVqw+rp70VpaZHen2nk7cCker7qBv+UzNWebIPo2fEEAhh+J+vnmQJG7/Qdg pFfWvzrp29IMyGtFslbqEiWnOYdPYh7bzR/tQ= Received: by 10.114.183.1 with SMTP id g1mr4745590waf.131.1225111993729; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.145.11 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:53:13 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: "Odhiambo Washington" In-Reply-To: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:20:17 -0000 Hello, try "deny unknown-clients;" and may be "boot-unknown-clients false;" in dhcpd.conf Deian On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello List, > > Suppose I have 100 Desktops, and I want my DHCP server to _only_ > assign IP addresses to these hosts, using MAC addresses, is there a > way to tell the DHCP server to NOT assign any IP address to a machine > whose MAC address it doesn't know? > I don't want any computer being plugged onto my LAN and getting/using > resources without my knowledge. Just some level of paranoia:-) > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "Life must be understood backwards; but... it must be lived forward." > - Soren Kierkegaard > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:37:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED31106567E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (mx1.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D67A8FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8157761C57 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:25:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (arek.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.233]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5882C61C30 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:25:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4905C054.2020801@wup-katowice.pl> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:21:24 +0100 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste FreeBSD X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for MailServers 5.5.33/RELEASE, bases: 27102008 #1209970, status: clean Subject: SUN Fire V 250 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:37:01 -0000 Hi, On next week I will get SUN Fire v250 machine. I thinking about installation FreeBSD on this machine. Have someone experience with FreeBSD on this machine? Best Regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski "UNIX allows me to work smarter, not harder." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:41:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271FE1065671 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7488FC29 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1164670wag.27 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=I5SYQpHO/T1/MnMRbbo1CB9qJjHavwHaNY6mEakH/8o=; b=KGmbKrOyzeEZ20ogEgkSoNXpladAm1Y507uFfNJMeV8JKQSGnB6BFZAW4LrbJ620Zm 0mGTgLgFrZDNKAyBVP24TcXHrFfGEv9OI7I5D45WGOcclGwZtn073ODA6ITD/As+eeQ2 WpiKOAH8piApN8+317EL5209LAuXLRSNbjUe8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GyEaiPcFDZdfuvVcy0cA5s8iC7kcQ1Vy3c+h1EUHc1HeI9/grdEG9ILL2QlsHYnAsi 6wyLthtbogXELrKzC48DEU8ouqONOKvJkaZLuUk4dXqadByTeSlZq2XpmuRr8AvUfces 9MHzDU28UBSSlTXz0dLUCj3Rbj3AEWJpg5mUA= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr5215037wae.105.1225114905291; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.66.18 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810270641n30682629se5d3c7406c2ace80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:41:45 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Valentin Bud" In-Reply-To: <139b44430810270616t72f52a76k7c5dfe22757d056d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> <139b44430810270616t72f52a76k7c5dfe22757d056d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Deian Popov , User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:41:46 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Valentin Bud wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Odhiambo Washington > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Deian Popov wrote: >> > Hello, >> > try "deny unknown-clients;" and may be "boot-unknown-clients false;" in >> > dhcpd.conf >> >> Hi Deian, >> >> You guys are great! >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> One response I got off list was that I could use "deny > > Sorry for the off list response. It's my mistake of pressing Reply instead > of Reply All, > like i did now. It wasn't a mistake. As a matter of fact, you can decide to reply to the poster or to the list. I appreciate your response anyway. What I was asking, out of curiosity, is whether there is an alternative to isc-dhcpd-server on FreeBSD. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Life must be understood backwards; but... it must be lived forward." - Soren Kierkegaard "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 13:59:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A681065680 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281B98FC24 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-000001a000000220-8d-4905c926025c Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:59:02 -0400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:58:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DHCP and MAC addresses Thread-Index: Ack4NZ14IxNaQnW1SwSZYZvwtbYLKgABc1Ug References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "User Questions" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:59:43 -0000 On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington >=20 > One response I got off list was that I could use "deny > unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... > is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside > it? I have used dnsmasq on Slackware Linux. It is a combined DNS/DHCP server that works well on small private networks. I don't know if it runs on BSD. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 14:03:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FFD106567A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE82F8FC21 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:58815 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KuSgb-00076b-6J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:03:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 10218 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 15:03:10 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2008 15:03:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 36148 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Oct 2008 15:03:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:03:10 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Bob McConnell Message-ID: <20081027140310.GA36129@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KuSgb-00076b-6J. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KuSgb-00076b-6J 6552859e4ef8d0d8d794b4a037785d05 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:03:15 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:58:36AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington > > > > One response I got off list was that I could use "deny > > unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... > > is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside > > it? > > I have used dnsmasq on Slackware Linux. It is a combined DNS/DHCP server > that works well on small private networks. I don't know if it runs on > BSD. It is available in the ports tree as ports/dns/dnsmasq -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 14:11:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE191065674; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AC18FC08; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9REB7lw015189; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:11:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9REB6te015188; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:11:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:11:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, Alexander Sack , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hackers User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:11:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit ?binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, Alexander Sack , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Wojciech Puchar List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:11:13 -0000 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote: > > > this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it > > > can't work > > > > rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. > > The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily tries to > link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable results.. You *can* link Linux libraries with FreeBSD binaries (and vice versa), if the library does not perform any syscalls, e.g. it is a pure computation library or similar. > That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible libraries :) No. Please don't put such pseudo-cleverness into rtld. It wouldn't be an improvement, in fact it might break some working configurations. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and complex tasks impossible." -- John William Chambless From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 14:26:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5444106569B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3D=de4b49ec@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92218FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3D=de4b49ec@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A05163DE2 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D10BD05AD for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:09:35 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081027140935.2feb15c3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <520812780810262156q45242f50ybd91ea90fcf1db8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <520812780810262156q45242f50ybd91ea90fcf1db8a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Low bandwidth suggestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:26:13 -0000 On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:56:09 -0500 "Mauricio L__pez" wrote: > My question is: what would you recommend to someone who wants to have > the software available offline and perhaps update it monthly? Can I > download and burn in DVDs the entire ports and package collection? I think there is, or was, a unofficial DVD produced by one of the companies that sells open-source disks, I don't know much about it. I'd recommend you forget about upgrading monthly and just stick to releases - the CD's contain a number of useful packages and the snapshot of the ports tree used to build them. Building from ports is going to be awkward, because it requires source tarballs to be under the distfiles directory. They are normally fetched automatically but you'll have to get them manually if you you are offline. Don't try to update the tree between releases. You don't need all that much bandwidth to use the ports system though, I used to maintain a full KDE3 desktop on dial-up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 15:33:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32166106567F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDA18FC26 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (unknown [192.168.1.110]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20567EBBC0; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:37:02 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <4905CB0A.10108@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:37:06 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob McConnell References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: en0f@bokey.mine.nu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:33:54 -0000 Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington >> One response I got off list was that I could use "deny >> unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... >> is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside >> it? > > I have used dnsmasq on Slackware Linux. It is a combined DNS/DHCP server > that works well on small private networks. I don't know if it runs on > BSD. Same here. I've used it on Debian&Ubuntu without any problem on home network and as Bob mentioned it talks both DNS and DHCP. -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 15:39:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E69106567F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BCE8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 716082E02A; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAFB2E01F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: duane@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4905CB0A.10108@bokey.mine.nu> Message-ID: References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> <4905CB0A.10108@bokey.mine.nu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.hill@yournetplus.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:39:43 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, en0f wrote: > Bob McConnell wrote: >> On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington >>> One response I got off list was that I could use "deny >>> unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... >>> is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside >>> it? >> >> I have used dnsmasq on Slackware Linux. It is a combined DNS/DHCP server >> that works well on small private networks. I don't know if it runs on >> BSD. > > Same here. I've used it on Debian&Ubuntu without any problem on home network and as Bob mentioned it talks both DNS and DHCP. Just took a quick look: %locate dnsmasq /usr/ports/dns/dnsmasq ... Seems to be in the ports tree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 15:51:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0A51065684 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5348FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9RFmpuq098284; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:48:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9RFmpEM098283; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:48:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:48:51 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steven Susbauer Message-ID: <20081027154851.GE98028@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mlopezqc@gmail.com Subject: Re: How to restore a lost root password... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:51:53 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 02:12:19AM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > Mauricio L?pez wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Daniel Bye > > wrote: > >>On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:18:25PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: > >>>>I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the > >>>>console > >>>>to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a > >>>>message > >>>>to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. > >>>What happened to just booting into single-user mode and issuing passwd? > >>The OP made a point of letting us know that he has marked his console > >>`insecure' in /etc/ttys. In order to even get a shell in single user, > >>he needs the root password. > >> > > > >As far as I know, from my previous Linux experience, you just need a > >LiveCD in order to boot the PC, mount the / partition, edit > >/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow and change the hash for one that correspond > >to one we know. Perhaps you can make it in every UNIX. > > > Mauricio L?pez wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Daniel Bye > > wrote: > >>On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:18:25PM +0100, Rada alive wrote: > >>>>I have seen a "How to" about this but I have a problem, i set the > console > >>>>to insecure, so when I try to do the step of the "how to" i get a > message > >>>>to input the root password or Ctrl-D to enter in multiuser mode. > >>>What happened to just booting into single-user mode and issuing passwd? > >>The OP made a point of letting us know that he has marked his console > >>`insecure' in /etc/ttys. In order to even get a shell in single user, > >>he needs the root password. > >> > > > >As far as I know, from my previous Linux experience, you just need a > >LiveCD in order to boot the PC, mount the / partition, edit > >/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow and change the hash for one that correspond > >to one we know. Perhaps you can make it in every UNIX. > > > This is similar to what Matthew Seaman was mentioning. > > I am curious though, might it be possible to boot from something like > Freesbie (or a fixit disc), mount the drive, chroot to the actual > install and run passwd like normal to change the password? Does root on > FreeBSD ask to verify the old password when trying to change its own? That is exactly what the OP has to do. Use the fixit. Boot it, Make a mount point and mount the other root file system and change the root password. Along the way, he might also try to undo that insecure console thing. Root does not ask for the old password if you are root trying to change a password. ////jerry > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 15:54:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6E41065670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52838FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so573666hsz.11 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+7TzZ2dR46NGwrzmH4MCwG0hDj2t44kBVzDdie+apqE=; b=s3ZWsoYCQvh3czeluqvHj2TEfv9JukGbEGaDrhY5cGUTtQ0U9+3x+8bvhd1XcV+59U lukcvV2/085kVB/m6m2ON70LcFshtDUBClSdRh8QwjxpoT5BLarZzy5iCutZ7/tTHkjk MLw2He8eW2naG+yEM2O/0lYp1EljOY5/zUdjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=iseqBloWY0wsoSAoogmHl0BXbK6RLK9+Gtso/WdKm4wSksC1aW9d/2BvUkoIgaCOPM zWLSTB9YZ0gIrv2wCEllzf3krDOxlYfvlzQIAPyQQD3qSGKF8n5W7wMTTmxpKD9qGjlU 7r/w015+weBzk6MJ+nVDXsb8MZtVBItxADrrs= Received: by 10.115.32.8 with SMTP id k8mr5358966waj.89.1225122870738; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.66.18 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400810270854m64107bfan3f38a8422fb17b23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:54:30 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: en0f@bokey.mine.nu In-Reply-To: <4905CB0A.10108@bokey.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> <4905CB0A.10108@bokey.mine.nu> Cc: Bob McConnell , User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:54:33 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:07 PM, en0f wrote: > Bob McConnell wrote: >> On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington >>> One response I got off list was that I could use "deny >>> unknown-clients;" if I use isc-dhcpd-server, which got me thinking ... >>> is there another dhcp server for FreeBSD in the ports tree, or outside >>> it? >> >> I have used dnsmasq on Slackware Linux. It is a combined DNS/DHCP server >> that works well on small private networks. I don't know if it runs on >> BSD. > > Same here. I've used it on Debian&Ubuntu without any problem on home network and as Bob mentioned it talks both DNS and DHCP. Interesting how many people "dual-live" on this list:-) I have been so allergic to Linux all these years until Ubuntu. I am from Africa and I did not settle on Ubuntu just for the name but because one client insisted he wanted a Unix server and it had to be Linux. I wonder what makes people live in both worlds - *BSD & Linux - is it for similar reasons? As regards DNS and DHCP servers, I'd never thought beyond BIND & djbdns and isc-dhcpd respectively all these years (yes, my own Unix epoch is 1997). -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Life must be understood backwards; but... it must be lived forward." - Soren Kierkegaard "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 15:01:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD711065684; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874678FC19; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m9RF07lK083248; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:00:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:01:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20081027.090116.-1827344390.imp@bsdimp.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, pisymbol@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, olli@lurza.secnetix.de From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:56:00 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit ?binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:01:55 -0000 In message: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> Oliver Fromme writes: : Daniel O'Connor wrote: : > On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote: : > > > this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it : > > > can't work : > > : > > rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. : > : > The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily tries to : > link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable results.. : : You *can* link Linux libraries with FreeBSD binaries (and : vice versa), if the library does not perform any syscalls, : e.g. it is a pure computation library or similar. : : > That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible libraries :) : : No. Please don't put such pseudo-cleverness into rtld. : It wouldn't be an improvement, in fact it might break some : working configurations. Yes. I have a bunch of printer drivers that I've used that link in linux shared libraries... They are in ports... Warner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 16:13:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6DC10656AE for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68048FC34 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XrNr1a0050SCNGk56sDVBT; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:13:29 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XsDt1a00c2P6wsM3VsDuLr; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:13:54 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=gS92qoHU3hCKDwxk0VkA:9 a=dwPXUMASqZVDvhS_N5bcax0YHPEA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 96790C9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:13:53 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20081027161353.GA25293@icarus.home.lan> References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <991123400810270612k6c1b16f2rd5592e0881294ba7@mail.gmail.com> <4905CB0A.10108@bokey.mine.nu> <991123400810270854m64107bfan3f38a8422fb17b23@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <991123400810270854m64107bfan3f38a8422fb17b23@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Bob McConnell , en0f@bokey.mine.nu, User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:13:57 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 06:54:30PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I wonder what makes people live in both worlds - *BSD & Linux - is it > for similar reasons? Living in "both worlds" is a good thing: keeping an open mind about operating systems and software is one of the best choices one can make. BSD falls short in some areas where Linux excels, and Linux falls short in some areas where BSD excels. It's about using whatever tool works to get things done. If that's BSD, great. If that's Linux, great. If that's Windows, great. But the worst thing one can do is remain close-minded about operating systems; one-sided advocacy (pro-BSD or pro-Linux) does nothing but hurt the open-source concept. (I'll remind folks that ZFS came from Solaris) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 16:17:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FB81065672 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@kcilink.com) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (thingy.kcilink.com [74.92.149.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FE08FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@kcilink.com) Received: from steve.int.kcilink.com (steve.int.kcilink.com [192.168.7.99]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DAD8A03A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:00:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=kcilink.com; s=kci0709; t=1225123210; bh=ywpCXTj2bBsTX2/JbNBiZHPtnM+T7bL/XOPEM87 s1W8=; h=Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date; b=aSUAtr/WXNwN+NNbpNzZaO12sbSQkny1ofHAkSR5vDSBB0YFBCxNOU5Lxw0gSHdMG nr2XirR+iAYYw7MVuX6QZvgY/PGrYJZbmw+zxnudghCLiMIjsCoyzvvg5wRl3gnasih i0pn/2OT5hAC1UYmyJmp9dAk2o/Bhdjw7l5uKTw= Message-Id: <8127E661-500B-425C-A905-562237E34D5F@kcilink.com> From: Steve Scally To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:00:09 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dell PE1900 DAT72 drive failing FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:17:10 -0000 All, I have a Dell PE1900 with an internal DAT72 drive. The drive appears to fail midway through a dump after detecting the end of tape and prompting for a new one. There is no specific sequence in which it fails. Sometimes it could be after the first tape or after the second tape. Dumps will complete for weeks at a time with no issue then suddenly fail. There are no logs with errors except for the dmesg.boot file after a reboot, which fixes the issue. Before the dump there are these two lines: "ahd0: SCSI Cell parity error SSTAT3 == 0x2 ahd0: Missing case in ahd_handle_scsiint. status = 0" I did a search and found this posting http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2007-February/002869.html which suggests to upgrade the BIOS and any other firmware. I tried this suggestion and updated the Dell BIOS from v2.0.1 to v2.3.1 and the Base Management Controller firmware from v1.69 to v2.09 however, the issue still occurs. Durning this time all other services such as mail, samba, and nfs remain functional. The only service affected is SSH. When you try to login after the failure occurs you receive "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0." Thank you in advance for the help. If you need anymore information let me know. Steve Uname -a FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #1: Wed Jan 23 22:52:15 EST 2008 amd64 pciconf -l|grep ahd ahd0@pci0:8:1:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00409005 chip=0x80169005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 ahd1@pci0:8:1:1: class=0x010000 card=0x00409005 chip=0x80169005 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 ahd0: port 0xec00-0xecff, 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfcb7e000-0xfcb7ffff irq 32 at device 1.0 on pci8 ahd0: [ITHREAD] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0x1c Mode 0x33 Card was paused INTSTAT[0x8] SELOID[0x9] SELID[0x0] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] INTCTL[0x80] SEQINTSTAT[0x0] SAVED_MODE[0x11] DFFSTAT[0x33] SCSISIGI[0x18] SCSIPHASE[0x0] SCSIBUS[0x80] LASTPHASE[0x1] SCSISEQ0[0x40] SCSISEQ1[0x12] SEQCTL0[0x0] SEQINTCTL[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS[0xc0] SEQ_FLAGS2[0x0] QFREEZE_COUNT[0x0] KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x0] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x10] SSTAT1[0x0] SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4] LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x0] LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0x0] SCB Count = 512 CMDS_PENDING = 8 LASTSCB 0xffff CURRSCB 0x1f7 NEXTSCB 0x0 qinstart = 16 qinfifonext = 16 QINFIFO: WAITING_TID_QUEUES: 9 ( 0x1f7 ) 10 ( 0x1f6 ) 11 ( 0x1f5 ) 12 ( 0x1f4 ) 13 ( 0x1f3 ) 14 ( 0x1f2 ) 15 ( 0x1f1 ) 6 ( 0x1f9 ) Pending list: 505 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0x67] 497 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0xf7] 498 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0xe7] 499 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0xd7] 500 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0xc7] 501 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0xb7] 502 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0xa7] 503 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x40] SCB_SCSIID[0x97] Total 8 Kernel Free SCB lists: Any Device: 504 506 507 508 509 510 511 496 495 494 493 492 491 490 489 488 487 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479 478 477 476 475 474 473 472 471 470 469 468 467 466 465 464 463 462 461 460 459 458 457 456 455 454 453 452 451 450 449 448 447 446 445 444 443 442 441 440 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= 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10] ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8063, SCB 0x1f9 SEQIMODE[0x3f] SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89] SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2] SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] SOFFCNT[0x0] MDFFSTAT[0x5] SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10] LQIN: 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x0, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 MAXCMDCNT = 0x0 ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 SIMODE0[0xc] CCSCBCTL[0x4] ahd0: REG0 == 0x1f9, SINDEX = 0x10e, DINDEX = 0x10e ahd0: SCBPTR == 0x1f7, SCB_NEXT == 0xffc0, SCB_NEXT2 == 0x1f6 CDB 12 0 0 0 24 0 STACK: 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device sa0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 32, 16bit) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 16:17:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DB9106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AA98FC3C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9RGEKWe098407; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:14:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9RGEJIS098406; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:14:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:14:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: LennyCZ Message-ID: <20081027161419.GG98028@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:17:22 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:34:42AM +0100, LennyCZ wrote: > Hello! > > I would like to try FreeBSD on my machine, but I did not find any > information regarding the ISO files on FreeBSD FTP sites. > > For example, in ISO directory for 7.0 release, I found these files: > > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-disc3.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-docs.iso > 7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso > > Please could you tell me which files I exactly need to download & burn > to install a "normal" FreeBSD installation? Do I need all three *-disc[n] > discs? If so, is there a DVD version available? First of all, this is well documented in the handbook and in some FAQs and other hand-holding documents. Second, it depends on how you do the install. If you are able to do it over the net, then you only need the ---disc1.iso. Burn it, boot from it and then when the install process asks, select installing via ftp over the net and pick a promising mirror. It works very well. > Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 3 CDs > from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet connection. > So > wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning (or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install program and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others have done so much longer. But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available to them on disk as well. Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the net. But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain the sources for various ports and some special case things. > > Anyway, I believe that I'll enjoy FreeBSD and I'm looking forward to > see > it on my home machine and on my testing machine @ work :-) Check out the documentation. Unlike some other systems, it is actually helpful. ////jerry > > Thanks for your time! > > Greetings, > Alois "LennyCZ" Mahdal > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 16:34:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B45106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8B38FC1E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9RGYZiL013087; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:34:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9RGYYE4013084; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:34:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:34:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Odhiambo Washington In-Reply-To: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081027173311.H13073@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:34:45 -0000 > Hello List, > > Suppose I have 100 Desktops, and I want my DHCP server to _only_ > assign IP addresses to these hosts, using MAC addresses, is there a > way to tell the DHCP server to NOT assign any IP address to a machine > whose MAC address it doesn't know? of course. and you can assign IP to each MAC first deny unknown-clients; (dont specify range at all) then host something { hardware ethernet 00:11:22:33:44:55; fixed-address 1.2.3.4; option host-name "something.somewhere"; option routers router_IP; } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 16:41:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD57A1065673 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9898FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so1545383qba.35 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7+usuXEyuXrQcW7yCZPzm1XST1Iz1MyI37XVn6W3Ego=; b=xUJ9TCDWrRrHsfm+Npl8JfBPRMelwelcoe7UuzPvoXm5cs9rdptnhX6YfidyfkJXyq aQkZNWuME3RibG5xytG+8/Ukftiq0nK7PQ4WHAC/8Nhx6R42eXssNq3Yrbxjj2OVH1HZ OVADMz3m8X1oVqrZMoeQ7HeWEX961GVOKn2dE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZLhY71V9oWZKGhZ1iizGMT+4kFoTd1ow635TUJjzHH1CjhV/2wjzqRd/94IxLqTUX+ oxXB2qMyDbc5hCsxz7s0Ibb1P0BP0qD24vZ81lMgyHi3F/tj1I0Nk8pNxlfqC38Owvn8 PhhVsp110pNCzzkWyCWntYVYtSFmQ5+LSNHkA= Received: by 10.142.125.4 with SMTP id x4mr2771348wfc.349.1225125665269; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.154.10 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <139b44430810270941p1f05b2a7t42273e6fddc70efe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:41:05 +0100 From: "Valentin Bud" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20081027173311.H13073@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400810270504k745fe683mbca2f58e268ce8fd@mail.gmail.com> <20081027173311.H13073@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Odhiambo Washington , User Questions Subject: Re: DHCP and MAC addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:41:07 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > > Hello List, >> >> Suppose I have 100 Desktops, and I want my DHCP server to _only_ >> assign IP addresses to these hosts, using MAC addresses, is there a >> way to tell the DHCP server to NOT assign any IP address to a machine >> whose MAC address it doesn't know? >> > > of course. > > and you can assign IP to each MAC > > first > > deny unknown-clients; > (dont specify range at all) But do define the subnet: subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 192.168.1.1; option domain-name-servers 1.2.3.4; } If you have 100 MAC address by this technique you avoid writing options routers 1.2.3.4; in each host declaration. No matter how many subnets you have, just define them and write the router and DNS server(s) there and in the host declaration just the IP and (optional) a host-name. all the best, v > > > then > > host something { > hardware ethernet 00:11:22:33:44:55; > fixed-address 1.2.3.4; > option host-name "something.somewhere"; > option routers router_IP; > > } > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 16:16:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357DE1065682 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales@chicagoanimation.com) Received: from outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com [67.222.38.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06FD08FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales@chicagoanimation.com) Received: (qmail 19374 invoked by uid 0); 27 Oct 2008 15:49:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box504.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.104) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 15:49:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=chicagoanimation.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:thread-index:X-MimeOLE:X-Identified-User; b=i5NfRS+vVlocYYSObdIQN6ARtxUqaFeVWgLeXA/Cp6prjdb0U2umINa6qv0OJyGeHjdpxJLOT1HeGtRHgD7KwLfICDM7zpe5b0QFH4EM3nNrLKWg8/DRDJgcKnSqjg3G; Received: from c-71-194-132-169.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([71.194.132.169] helo=TomPC) by box504.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KuULi-0007iV-F7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:49:46 -0600 From: "Chicago Animation, Inc." To: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:48:37 -0500 Message-ID: <78EE42D857334981AB4E8643B62F0135@TomPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: Ack4S3mqIJTOF14kQhiVDukZNplggA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Identified-User: {1085:box504.bluehost.com:onepenny:chicagoanimation.com} {sentby:smtp auth 71.194.132.169 authed with sales+chicagoanimation.com} X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:59:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: make installworld error from 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:16:27 -0000 Hey nick, This is Tom Truong. Aka "Good Timez" How are you? Call me 832-685-4705 to chat. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:04:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970591065674 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380EB8FC1F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9RH4k8W001089; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:04:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kadmin@ezekiel.daleco.biz) Received: (from kadmin@localhost) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.13.1/Submit) id m9RH4kdJ001088; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:04:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kadmin) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:04:46 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081027170446.GA946@ezekiel.daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: daleco@daleco.biz Subject: SSH Port forwarding when "PermitRootLogin"==no ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:04:48 -0000 Hello, I'm (still) trying to work around a limitation I've encountered with a new service provider (cf. "MTA on non-standard port"). As root: # ssh -L 24:server:52525 server fails because root logins aren't permitted in /etc/sshd_config on the server. Also as root: # ssh -L 24:server:52525 user@server fails - an terminal session is established, but when I telnet localhost:24 I receive this in the terminal: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed I was kinda under the impression this should work, since the port on the remote server is a dynamic port. Any suggestions how I might get this to work? TIA, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:34:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C955106566C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DarwinsKernel@gmail.com) Received: from dillinger.concordia.ca (dillinger.Concordia.CA [132.205.122.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAF78FC1E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DarwinsKernel@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.2.32] (cinema-pc-g5-fb430.Concordia.CA [132.205.52.85]) by dillinger.concordia.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9RGKd8j018489; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:20:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <49F8E986-E00C-4CD5-81B8-7C76F4DA1A0C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebds.org From: Charles Darwin Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:20:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 Cc: Subject: wall write talk Over subnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:34:59 -0000 Is it possible? If not, then what are the subnet counterparts of `wall' `write' and `talk'? Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:41:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CD6106567A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mailout.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523338FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBE648284 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.localnet (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B08113183 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:41:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:41:37 +0000 References: <20081027170446.GA946@ezekiel.daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <20081027170446.GA946@ezekiel.daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810271741.37872.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SSH Port forwarding when "PermitRootLogin"==no ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:41:46 -0000 On Monday 27 October 2008 17:04:46 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Hello, > > I'm (still) trying to work around a limitation I've encountered > with a new service provider (cf. "MTA on non-standard port"). > > As root: > # ssh -L 24:server:52525 server > > fails because root logins aren't permitted in > /etc/sshd_config on the server. > > Also as root: > # ssh -L 24:server:52525 user@server > > fails - an terminal session is established, but > when I telnet localhost:24 I receive this in the > terminal: > > channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed > > I was kinda under the impression this should work, since > the port on the remote server is a dynamic port. > > Any suggestions how I might get this to work? I have the same problem with my ISP blocking port 25 inbound and outbound, so I use a DNS provider that will relay my email (email for a domain) to me on an alternate port. I don't recall how much this costs me but it is around $40 yearly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:45:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E041065671 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5498FC20 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XrCX1a03s0lTkoCA5tlgzA; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:45:40 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xtle1a00Z2P6wsM8Qtlevv; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:45:39 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lEXfPHT89KAA:10 a=PWOCGlEUhlQA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=LMQCHW080IkBkWDLoPMA:9 a=WVBhoKdU6RrKRGUX-oPnlZCTAhwA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 982B2C9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:45:38 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20081027174538.GA27082@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081027170446.GA946@ezekiel.daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081027170446.GA946@ezekiel.daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: daleco@daleco.biz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH Port forwarding when "PermitRootLogin"==no ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:45:41 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:04:46PM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Hello, > > I'm (still) trying to work around a limitation I've encountered > with a new service provider (cf. "MTA on non-standard port"). > > As root: > # ssh -L 24:server:52525 server > > fails because root logins aren't permitted in > /etc/sshd_config on the server. I recently discussed how to deal with this in a manner that does not involve compromising root's security: 1) Make a public key on the machine you're doing "ssh -L 24:server:52525 server" from. Run ssh-keygen as root 2) Place contents of /root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys on "server". Make sure the /root/.ssh directory is perm 0700, and authorized_keys is perm 0600. 3) On "server", edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change this line: #PermitRootLogin no ...to: PermitRootLogin without-password 4) Send a SIGHUP signal to the master sshd process. This might disconnect any existing SSH sessions to the machine: kill -HUP `cat /var/run/sshd.pid` If you're concerned about what "without-password" does, read the man page. It WILL NOT let people SSH into the root account, UNLESS they have the private key (on "server"). > Also as root: > # ssh -L 24:server:52525 user@server > > fails - an terminal session is established, but > when I telnet localhost:24 I receive this in the > terminal: > > channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed No idea what the "channel 3: open failed" part means, but the latter likely implies firewalling rules of some kind on the local machine. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:47:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695B3106567A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0F18FC37 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37A50C4F; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:47:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9RHlIFb002166; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:47:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:47:18 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Charles Darwin Message-Id: <20081027184718.ea23b61e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49F8E986-E00C-4CD5-81B8-7C76F4DA1A0C@gmail.com> References: <49F8E986-E00C-4CD5-81B8-7C76F4DA1A0C@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebds.org Subject: Re: wall write talk Over subnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:47:22 -0000 On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:20:34 -0400, Charles Darwin wrote: > Is it possible? If not, then what are the subnet counterparts of > `wall' `write' and `talk'? I'm not sure I understood your question correctly, but maybe at least in regards of talk there's the ntalk utility. It requires enabling the corresponding line in /etc/inetd.conf. ntalk dgram udp wait tty:tty /usr/libexec/ntalkd ntalkd The ntalk program itself is available via ports (net/ntalk). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:14:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D99106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvenne@meditrans.fr) Received: from postfix1-g20.free.fr (postfix1-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4C18FC1E for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvenne@meditrans.fr) Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by postfix1-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D42C2D183CB for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8923B0A76 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from yoda.staff.photographesdefrance.com (ram94-5-82-229-222-7.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.222.7]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC3FB0B28 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4905FDB1.8070508@meditrans.fr> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:13 +0100 From: rvenne User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: keeping states with ipf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:14:12 -0000 Hi list I've 2 ipf fw on freebsd 7.0. CARP works fine. But pfsync doesn't work with ipf, ( it's written for pf, right?) so, is there any similar tool for keep synchronized both firewall's states? regards -- Richard VENNE IT Administrator Administrateur réseaux système & sécurité Afin de respecter de l'environnement, merci de n'imprimer cet email qu'en cas de nécessité absolue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:15:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F811065672 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from numail.brianwhalen.net (numail.brianwhalen.net [66.93.34.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FC38FC24 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4B13A2847E; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on numail.brianwhalen.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (numail.brianwhalen.net [192.168.15.25]) by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE55628431 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490600B5.90601@brianwhalen.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:56:05 -0700 From: Brian Whalen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081027161419.GG98028@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081027161419.GG98028@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:15:37 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to > things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning > (or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from > a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install program > and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that for more > than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others have > done so much longer. > > But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to > do installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some > cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available > to them on disk as well. > > Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and > not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed > out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the > net. But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain > the sources for various ports and some special case things. > One option is to just burn and install using the minimum install option when the installer asks you. You could burn the very small minimum cd, such as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.0/7.0-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso and then do a net install afterwards as well. This is a very quick install, then you just pkg_add what you need, use sysinstall to add man pages and other pieces you want later. This has been my method for at least 5-6 years. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 17:55:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F169B1065674 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86E6C8FC1B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 17808 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2008 17:55:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xQr2qAOeY6ZkBbwyDP/KYLZBv5mOQuGFs/uKSSc+OqOavElRCJp8P373BkcvlNzSAfKs58ku4pNzhMbKHwm+zyWAv1sx9giRnzFrncgHjGKljxqu5dodpLe2KDNDsJUmL7oEoAUF1mheB62633Y2eIBJFz5ewququa/qpf4QfG4=; X-YMail-OSG: pWPbsx0VM1n4oJFTAR7NzQmeTKhAWeG2tnr9Hm0t0wE3Ui.2nGdL.6dG19la6IVcw2iAo0P2zPDNW8cuze0mHv3k5_Ngd9eSsX5TBvq1DhJu32LSSHWUP4tn_ZrXJtheT55p7WWBw8NFtBKPNLxKFv0wkO4YK_bD0UaHmRuPbdbtMxxUehLMJ9GNR0ptOw-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:55:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Liste FreeBSD , arek@wup-katowice.pl In-Reply-To: <4905C054.2020801@wup-katowice.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <502535.17753.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:17:34 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: SUN Fire V 250 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:55:43 -0000 --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Arek Czereszewski wrote: > From: Arek Czereszewski > Subject: SUN Fire V 250 > To: "Liste FreeBSD" > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:21 AM > Hi, > > On next week I will get SUN Fire v250 machine. > I thinking about installation FreeBSD on this machine. > Have someone experience with FreeBSD on this machine? I would advise signing up for the sparc64 mailing list. I haven't worked with FreeBSD on a V250 myself, nor am I familiar with the exact components in it, so I can't say offhand. Someone on the sparc64 list probably can though. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:27:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3801065684 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE9E8FC69 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9RIRg8S039365; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:27:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 09E96BA98; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:27:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:27:41 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Valentin Bud Message-ID: <20081027182741.GA29111@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <139b44430810270210o2e44bb3dlced325329fb824dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139b44430810270210o2e44bb3dlced325329fb824dd@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: migrate server on freebsd amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:27:45 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:10:19AM +0100, Valentin Bud wrote: > Hello list, > I want your opinion about migrating a freebsd server to amd64. > I have the following configuration: >=20 > Motherboard: Intel S5000VSA > CPU: Intel Xeon E5335 @ 2Ghz > RAM: 2 x 1Gb DDR2 FB-DIMM 667Mhz > HDD: 2 x 320 Gb SATA II + 1 x 500 Gb SATA II >=20 > This server runs as a web / mail server using: > Apache 2.2 > MySQL 5.0 > php 5 > Imagick > ghostscript > postfix + dovecot > openvpn >=20 > Currently the server runs FBSD 7.0 i386 (RELENG_7). I plan to switch the > server to amd64 and use ZFS. Apart from running ZFS I don't see a good reason to switch, unless you're regularly running out of address space. > I want your suggestions about the above applications and their stability = on > 64 bit FBSD as well I don't think any of this is a problem on amd64. I can speak from experience that ImageMagick, ghostscript and postfix work fine on amd64. Apart from binary-only 32 bit stuff (which won't work), there are not many programs that have problems on amd64 in my experience. > I'm sorry if this is not the proper place to ask questions about FBSD am= d64 > but i thought that here are many > people that might be using amd64 and come with some opinions. Thank you. There is an FreeBSD-amd64 list that might be usefull as well. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkGCB0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWNZQCggs/GgeayJ4O3kBsv1oBqQaGq KYAAoJjwAqKdPgvtkINgLyt6BsiAutc5 =MG7+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:39:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A00106567F for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209208FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [31.33.7.200] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9E00MZ4UI3OHP0@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:39:28 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:39:40 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm running a a webserver on FreeBSD (6.2-RELEASE-p6) and I have this error in my logs : collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many processes. Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients directive in Apache(set to 450 at the moment), but here's the problem...i need to increase it ! During peaks all the processes are in use, we even have little drops sometime because there isn't enough processes to serve the requests. Our traffic is increasing slowly over time so i'm affraid that it'll become a real problem soon. Any tips on how I could deal with this situation, Apache's or FreBSD's side ? Here's the useful part of my conf : Apache/2.2.4, compiled with prefork mpm. httpd.conf : [...] ServerLimit 450 StartServers 5 MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 MaxClients 450 MaxRequestsPerChild 0 KeepAlive On KeepAliveTimeout 15 MaxKeepAliveRequests 500 [...] Francis Dube R&D Optik Securite www.optiksecurite.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:40:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97109106566C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 435328FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 23052 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2008 18:40:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=JEMveW25VscRTmlRhe0n899vJ75n2GqBD8cARVyhUMqwmdfyrZtiVbBigx95bXJY/qq4md5GX3qiR4h4HhM2zj5FVLdLkmfPkEE2AT1VFTwRdD1jJJ+1lq8rrKn4SL6+lVa9odV6x4WJcrva2mNAv4nh/4mLugJWUptBxBdDd9U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@67.189.233.182 with login) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2008 18:40:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: F3a_2tAVM1ms31Bky_UBhmLopXc.8wDAxSDRsYDAASimrkmnPhMzVFMfvxObWUlr1HZcSa5Z0QDPM76IaAeqXY04piVbsaV8x0kzswQ0XV8BFBiEpEbLJEWidpvATStOizckpaEB9zn6WAtZ5EsJs9o75BWfymg2dYAGEyYGe0EVwAvRO7at9i_J5w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:39:56 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081027143956.6434cddf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081027002359.GA7165@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081026235553.GA45810@ezekiel.daleco.biz> <20081027002359.GA7165@icarus.home.lan> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/4iTWHPFfQ0=Y0dM1L1IiulS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:40:08 -0000 --Sig_/4iTWHPFfQ0=Y0dM1L1IiulS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:23:59 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 06:55:53PM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> Quick thanks to Andrew Clark, Jeremy Chadwick, Tim Kellers, >> Jeff Goldberg, and anyone whose reply I've not seen re: >> this issue. >>=20 >> Isn't hard, as several pointed out. Now I've sendmail listening >> on any port I want to. Problem is, still can't touch it from >> here (and you might have guessed, the base issue is a new provider >> of a lower-class service who I'm guessing only allows certain >> ports by default). > >Most consumer ISPs in the United States block two kinds of traffic to >their customers' IP blocks: > >1) Incoming SMTP (e.g. someIP:* --> yourIP:25) >2) Outbound SMTP (e.g. yourIP:* --> someIP:25) > >#2 has become prominent in the past few years, and is applied by ISPs >because they want to curb their customers sending spam out onto the >Internet (usually as a result of viruses, trojans, etc.), getting their >IPs blocked by DNSBLs and giving them a bad social rep. Instead, they >force customers to relay outbound mail through their own SMTP servers >(called a "smart host" in sendmail terms). > >There's absolutely no way around this; you can beg them all you want, >but the chances of them adding a pass-through for you is very slim. >Story time again... > >My setup, just to give you some idea: my home LAN has a FreeBSD box >used for all kinds of purposes. The box itself does not have direct >Internet access (it sits behind a Linksys WRTSL54GS NAT router, which >DOES NOT have incoming port 25/587 forwarded). The BSD box listens on >localhost:25,587, and bsdIP:25,587. This allows other machines on the >LAN to send mail through the BSD box, and of course local utilities on >the BSD box to do the same. > >The Linksys router has two outbound firewall rules applied to it: it >only allows bsdIP on my LAN to connect to someIP:25,587 -- thus, only >one machine on my LAN is allowed to speak SMTP to the world. I do this >purely as a precautionary measure (in case one of my friends comes over >with his/her laptop, which happens to be infected and sends spam, etc. >-- it won't work, period). > >All this worked great until Comcast put in place outbound SMTP filters, >which stopped postfix from being able to connect to someIP:25 (where >someIP is some random MX/mail server on the Internet). I was forced to >set up "smart relaying", causing postfix to siphon all outbound mail >through comcastmailserver:25, which worked fine for a few years. > >A couple months ago, Comcast stirred up the ants. They blocked my >ability to send mail to anyIP:25 (including to their own SMTP >servers!), citing "an incident of spam from my IP address". > >I asked them provide timestamps, Reference IDs, or even queue IDs, and >also explained my LAN setup and how what they were claiming happened >simply could not happen without my knowledge of it. They refused, as >in in literally "We will not provide you any of that". Abuse and I got >into a very long discussion on the phone about this, and told me a lot >of conflicting things (more or less just inducing me to ask more >questions, because their story didn't make any sense). They did >eventually tell me what *day* the spam was sent, which allowed me to go >look through my logs -- over and over, and I found absolutely no sign >of any illegitimate mail in my mail logs. > >I was told they would lift the block (which was done at the cable modem >level, not at the router level) if I could "permanently guarantee no >more incidents of spam". I told them that was impossible to guarantee, >because there *was no incident of spam* from my IP in the first place, >and they were refusing to work with me to figure out how/why they were >claiming that. So we sat there on the phone, silent, basically saying >nothing -- a total standstill. > >Eventually they stated that I could send mail through their mail >servers on port 587. I quickly set this up, and found it failed -- >their servers require SMTP AUTH on port 587, no exceptions (note: this >is NOT mandatory by the RFC; it's OPTIONAL). This meant I had to go >through the pains of dealing with Cyrus SASL2 (thankfully postfix >makes this easier to deal with than sendmail), and upon configuring it >all, mail once again began to flow. That's how things remain now. > >The reason I do not like siphoning mail through Comcast: their mail >servers are known to act wonky or /dev/null mail for mysterious >reasons. I've had two separate incidents of me sending mail to >individuals, witnessing Comcast's servers say "OK/accepted", but the >mail never reached the destination. In one case, one recipient ran >his own mail server, and was able to confirm that he saw absolutely no >Comcast IP connect to his server during a 24 hour period. To this day >the mail has never arrived. > >All the anti-spam advocates praise ISPs stepping in and becoming the >"middle man" for spam siphoning/filtering, spanking users like this >when incidents occur -- but when their setup fails or does what I've >described above, they basically turn their cheek and ignore any sort >of mistake or mishap. The fact that I cannot convince my ISP that I >am a responsible Netizen is disheartening -- I should not need a >business class connection to justify my responsibility. > >I hope the experience with your ISP is better than mine. Good luck. I had a similar experience with Comcast. After speaking with their representatives and getting nowhere, I got the representatives to give me their ID #'s, something they have to do by law anyway, and then filed a protest with the 'Public Service Commission' in New York State. Within five days I had both the Comcast and PS Commission reps talking to me. Long story, Comcast backed down. The PS commission said that Comcast could issue a system wide regulation if they wanted, and in fact they are in the process of doing that right now; however, they could not just single me out without supplying me with the requested information. Further more, they are now requiring SMTP AUTH on 587. While that may not be RFC required, I really see no reason to complain about it. Actually, it is probably a good idea if it helps contain the spread of SPAM. However, at least in my case, both inbound and outbound port 25 traffic is open. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com It's kind of fun to do the impossible. -- Walt Disney --Sig_/4iTWHPFfQ0=Y0dM1L1IiulS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkGCwQACgkQBvaKIJWWCO1yrgCeKT84oZfAe0EmEMSNayjFXghM Q78An3s3PJ9MdEmfi/fADbcxpdmVNS/x =UoDw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/4iTWHPFfQ0=Y0dM1L1IiulS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:45:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D7D1065675 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290198FC50 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9RIjWHP051185; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:45:09 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Tijl Coosemans Message-ID: <20081027184509.GA1821@thought.org> References: <20081025015522.GA23838@thought.org> <200810261150.15405.tijl@ulyssis.org> <20081026212108.GA66137@thought.org> <200810271134.53413.tijl@ulyssis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810271134.53413.tijl@ulyssis.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE, SUBJECT_NEEDS_ENCODING autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINE 21.1.5 QUESTION... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:45:18 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:34:52AM +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Sunday 26 October 2008 22:21:08 Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:50:13AM +0100, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > >> On Saturday 25 October 2008 03:55:26 Gary Kline wrote: > >>> Maybe somebody here can clue me in on how to get a 1998, windose3.1/w95 > >>> French-learning game to work on my newly built wine. I asked on the > >>> Ubuntu forums and altho somebody did try to help; Zip. > >>> > >>> I do not have a clue to the DOS-path; it's a CDROM and since I'm using > >>> the top CD/DVD optical drive, I'm guessing that it D:\; right? since C:\ > >>> would be the harddrive. > >>> > >>> Otherwise, no clue. The disc is due back at the library soon so I want > >>> to make the most of it ... even if it does crash every 355 minutes! > >> > >> You can setup drive letters using the drives tab in winecfg. > >> So, insert cdrom, mount it, run winecfg and assign a drive letter > >> to the mount point. If you have hal/dbus enabled most of this is > >> done automatically. > > > > hal/dbus are going. How do I mount the cdrom on C:\ ? > > I've already run winecfg and sound works, selected "Windows 95". > > No, you mount the cdrom like you normally would. If you use hal > and the cdrom is mounted on /var/media/something, you need > to tell wine (winecfg, drives tab) that whenever drive D: is > accessed, it should look for the files in /var/media/something. > After that you can run 'wine d:\\setup.exe'. > > You should see something like this in winecfg: > C: ../drive_c > D: /var/media/cd0 > Z: / I get the general idea, but since I have two optical drives, not just one, things are a bit more complicated. In / I've got /media/cdroms/0 and /media/cdroms/1; in /usr/home/kline is: ~/cdroms/0 and ~/cdroms/1 . For some reason winecfg didn't understand this and I had to type in the /usr/home/kline/cdrom/0 by hand. It is listed as H: That's fine; but in an xterm/Konsole messages kept getting printed to stderr so it looks like winecfg isn't looking at my 1sr optical drine. I've tried mount /media/cdroms/cd0 /mnt and other ploys. Zip. IMO, anybody who has tried to do the ``impossible'' (wine) deserves a gold medal ... but I can't make it work. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 18:58:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1DE106567C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout020.mac.com (asmtpout020.mac.com [17.148.16.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B837F8FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp020.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9E00GZCVDIIV10@asmtp020.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= In-reply-to: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:58:30 -0700 References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:58:31 -0000 On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Francis Dub=E9 wrote: > I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many =20 > processes. Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients =20 > directive in Apache(set to 450 at the moment), but here's the =20 > problem...i need to increase it ! During peaks all the processes are =20= > in use, we even have little drops sometime because there isn't =20 > enough processes to serve the requests. Our traffic is increasing =20 > slowly over time so i'm affraid that it'll become a real problem =20 > soon. Any tips on how I could deal with this situation, Apache's or =20= > FreBSD's side ? You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your system =20 can run under high load; generally the amount of system memory is the =20= governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients higher than that, =20 your system will start swapping under the load and once you start =20 hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput will plummet and clients =20 will start getting lots of broken connections, just as you describe. For a rough starting point, divide system RAM by httpd's typical =20 resident memory size. If your load legitimately exceeds this, you'll =20= need to beef up the machine or run multiple webserver boxes behind a =20 load-balancer (IPFW round-robin or similar with PF is a starting =20 point, but something like a Netscaler or Foundry ServerIron are what =20 the big websites generally use). --=20 -Chuck [1]: There can be other bottlenecks; sometimes poorly written external =20= cgi-bin scripts or dynamic content coming from mod_perl, mod_php, etc =20= can demand a lot of CPU or end up blocking on some resource (ie, DB =20 locking) and choking the webserver performance before it runs out of =20 RAM. But you can run a site getting several million hits a day on a =20 Sun E250 with only 1GB of RAM and 2 x ~400MHz CPU. :-)= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:24:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C24C106566C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4568FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2084529rvf.43 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:24:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pvC76hVruM/aX71ruTtLE44+D6i5wZj0+lvMWeUULMc=; b=dojJyu/y+7j5NZSTrro90TJPGPy/lesz15Tx/SRizNzJI6LV8cFWSVglxeq6zLqr/b uc/6P+LeHMLXZb+Gws4d8OMe37Ai1Usm4CNcVUMeqrVxilpuggzRVEZoDk0si71zvIp4 4HX4vccLm+nqfJu4LtsAhzZ3DVIuXJCvFH9hY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mqObp1aFvOK0bl4QtLy+wMiJIOXvOh9FHW7PrrEdmuFZO9nxQfsoGCPqyMRLXGGwuM JYWv16WHHnHT+fVKb+xWbloUjmVEynx3iipo3XweOwyhMi5FC/f1PczRfqjtjdDqz25d qx2lN/cFoYWbERcuO7HluBwT/0/ZPzmy54u8Y= Received: by 10.141.4.3 with SMTP id g3mr3454849rvi.116.1225133821338; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.132.16 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:57:01 -0400 From: "Simon Chang" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?=" In-Reply-To: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:24:47 -0000 > collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC > > I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many processes. > Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients directive in Apache(set > to 450 at the moment), but here's the problem...i need to increase it ! > During peaks all the processes are in use, we even have little drops > sometime because there isn't enough processes to serve the requests. Our > traffic is increasing slowly over time so i'm affraid that it'll become a > real problem soon. Any tips on how I could deal with this situation, > Apache's or FreBSD's side ? On page 85 of Michael Lucas' "Absolute BSD", there is a solution to your problem that someone else had come across before. The solution involves (1) increasing the PMAP_SHPGPERPROC parameter in the kernel to a higher value and rebuilding the kernel, and (2) increasing the amount of physical RAM to complement it. For more details, go to http://books.google.com/books?id=vebgS-r9fP8C&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=Michael+Lucas+collecting+pv+entries&source=web&ots=9Fl2T_Uyqi&sig=6LgchiUI5r0NTL6PaK3sxnFuIBI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result Good luck, Simon Chang From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:37:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E93E106566B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BC78FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9E00DAEX6IPDDQ@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:38:00 -0400 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Chuck Swiger References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:37:31 -0000 Chuck Swiger a écrit : > On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Francis Dubé wrote: >> I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many >> processes. Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients >> directive in Apache(set to 450 at the moment), but here's the >> problem...i need to increase it ! During peaks all the processes are >> in use, we even have little drops sometime because there isn't enough >> processes to serve the requests. Our traffic is increasing slowly over >> time so i'm affraid that it'll become a real problem soon. Any tips on >> how I could deal with this situation, Apache's or FreBSD's side ? > > You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your system can > run under high load; generally the amount of system memory is the > governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients higher than that, your > system will start swapping under the load and once you start hitting VM, > it's game over: your throughput will plummet and clients will start > getting lots of broken connections, just as you describe. > According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. After checking multiple things (MySQL, networks, CPU, RAM) when a drop occurs, we determined that everytimes there is drop, the number is Apache's process is MaxClients (ps aux | grep httpd | wc -l) and the new http request doesn't get answer from Apache (the TCP hanshakes completes but Apache never push the data). Thanks for your reply! > For a rough starting point, divide system RAM by httpd's typical > resident memory size. If your load legitimately exceeds this, you'll > need to beef up the machine or run multiple webserver boxes behind a > load-balancer (IPFW round-robin or similar with PF is a starting point, > but something like a Netscaler or Foundry ServerIron are what the big > websites generally use). > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:41:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CA21065683 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7973C8FC26 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [69.69.69.183] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9E002CUXCET8J5@VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4906196C.8000407@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:41:32 -0400 From: FreeBSD User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Simon Chang References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:03 -0000 Simon Chang a écrit : >> collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC >> >> I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many processes. >> Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients directive in Apache(set >> to 450 at the moment), but here's the problem...i need to increase it ! >> During peaks all the processes are in use, we even have little drops >> sometime because there isn't enough processes to serve the requests. Our >> traffic is increasing slowly over time so i'm affraid that it'll become a >> real problem soon. Any tips on how I could deal with this situation, >> Apache's or FreBSD's side ? > > On page 85 of Michael Lucas' "Absolute BSD", there is a solution to > your problem that someone else had come across before. The solution > involves (1) increasing the PMAP_SHPGPERPROC parameter in the kernel > to a higher value and rebuilding the kernel, and (2) increasing the > amount of physical RAM to complement it. > > For more details, go to > > http://books.google.com/books?id=vebgS-r9fP8C&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=Michael+Lucas+collecting+pv+entries&source=web&ots=9Fl2T_Uyqi&sig=6LgchiUI5r0NTL6PaK3sxnFuIBI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result > > Good luck, > > Simon Chang Thanks for the links, pretty helpful but this server is the only production web server we have. I don't really like the idea of recompiling the kernel with a new option... I don't really understand why we are getting this error since there is plenty of Inactive RAM in the system (2G inactive on a 4G server with amd64). Is this a "normal" error in this case? Thank you for your quick reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 19:55:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3FC1065670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FC18FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KuYB0-00064X-Hq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:54:58 +0000 Received: from 91-64-170-235-dynip.superkabel.de ([91.64.170.235]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:54:58 +0000 Received: from ino-news by 91-64-170-235-dynip.superkabel.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:54:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: clemens fischer Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:53:46 +0100 Lines: 26 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 91-64-170-235-dynip.superkabel.de X-Archive: encrypt=none User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: news Subject: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:55:00 -0000 Some of the programs in games/freebsd-games, notably hack and larn, have the following problem: Given the declarations: char *scrollname[] = { char *potionname[] = { "\0enchant armor", "\0sleep", "\0enchant weapon", "\0healing", ... ... "\0 " "\0 " }; }; (in larn/data.c) the code continues to flag the availability of some scroll or potion by writing into the first byte of the strings in these arrays: for (i=0; i Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793E910656B5 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647438FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9E006Y6Y26DH10@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: FreeBSD In-reply-to: <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:56:30 -0700 References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:57:00 -0000 On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote: >> You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your >> system can run under high load; generally the amount of system >> memory is the governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients >> higher than that, your system will start swapping under the load >> and once you start hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput will >> plummet and clients will start getting lots of broken connections, >> just as you describe. > > According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active > (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or the output of "vmstat 1" / "vmstat -s". It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like in terms of size, and what your content is like. For Apache serving mostly static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you tend to have 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you might well be able to run 400+ httpd children. On the other hand, as soon as you pull in the dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, you end up with much larger process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more of their memory usage is per-process rather than shared, so even with 4GB you probably won't be able to run more than 100-150 children before swapping. > After checking multiple things (MySQL, networks, CPU, RAM) when a > drop occurs, we determined that everytimes there is drop, the number > is Apache's process is MaxClients (ps aux | grep httpd | wc -l) and > the new http request doesn't get answer from Apache (the TCP > hanshakes completes but Apache never push the data). Yes, that aspect is going to be the same pretty much no matter what the bottleneck is or how large you set MaxClients to. You will end up with significantly better results (fewer drops, higher aggregate throughput) if you tune appropriately than if you try to ramp MaxClients up further than the available hardware can support. You might find that checking out the URLs being most commonly listed in http://yourdomain.com/server-status when you run into high load problems will point towards a particular script or dynamic content which is causing a bottleneck. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:02:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282641065674 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DB68FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xp3a1a00t0bG4ec59w2wLL; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:02:56 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xw2t1a00S2P6wsM3Pw2uan; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:02:54 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WAU4CpJS0y4A:10 a=oCQM3JxpPkUA:10 a=9odemETNAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=0MB4QxO4wDr6WIgwlOEA:9 a=mrhnsWMIgoi39QYWkrWRaDs04XYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9EC7CC9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:02:53 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:02:59 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote: >>> You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your system >>> can run under high load; generally the amount of system memory is the >>> governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients higher than that, >>> your system will start swapping under the load and once you start >>> hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput will plummet and clients >>> will start getting lots of broken connections, just as you describe. >> >> According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active >> (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. > > With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most > relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or the > output of "vmstat 1" / "vmstat -s". > > It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like in > terms of size, and what your content is like. For Apache serving mostly > static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you tend to have > 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you might well be able to > run 400+ httpd children. On the other hand, as soon as you pull in the > dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, you end up with much larger > process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more of their memory usage is > per-process rather than shared, so even with 4GB you probably won't be > able to run more than 100-150 children before swapping. > >> After checking multiple things (MySQL, networks, CPU, RAM) when a drop >> occurs, we determined that everytimes there is drop, the number is >> Apache's process is MaxClients (ps aux | grep httpd | wc -l) and the >> new http request doesn't get answer from Apache (the TCP hanshakes >> completes but Apache never push the data). > > Yes, that aspect is going to be the same pretty much no matter what the > bottleneck is or how large you set MaxClients to. You will end up with > significantly better results (fewer drops, higher aggregate throughput) > if you tune appropriately than if you try to ramp MaxClients up further > than the available hardware can support. > > You might find that checking out the URLs being most commonly listed in > http://yourdomain.com/server-status when you run into high load problems > will point towards a particular script or dynamic content which is > causing a bottleneck. One of the problems here is that the individual reporting the problem is basing all of his conclusions on the first couple lines of top(1) output, and is not bothering to look at per-process RSS or SZ. "I have lots of Inactive RAM, so what's the problem!??!" We should probably take the time to explain to the user the fact that shared pages per process != amount of RAM that's been touched/used at one point but is currently unused. Without someone explaining how the VM works in this regard, he's going to continue to be confused and correlate things which aren't necessarily related. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:05:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C421065671 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E58FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB693EBC0A; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:05:22 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20081027160522.bd32e714.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4906196C.8000407@optiksecurite.com> References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> <4906196C.8000407@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:05:25 -0000 In response to FreeBSD : > Simon Chang a =E9crit : > >> collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC > >> > >> I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many proce= sses. > >> Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients directive in Apac= he(set > >> to 450 at the moment), but here's the problem...i need to increase it ! > >> During peaks all the processes are in use, we even have little drops > >> sometime because there isn't enough processes to serve the requests. O= ur > >> traffic is increasing slowly over time so i'm affraid that it'll becom= e a > >> real problem soon. Any tips on how I could deal with this situation, > >> Apache's or FreBSD's side ? [snip] > I don't really understand why we are getting this error since there is=20 > plenty of Inactive RAM in the system (2G inactive on a 4G server with=20 > amd64). Is this a "normal" error in this case? It's not about physical RAM, it's about kernel tables that are tracking RAM usage per process. When situations occur that cause these tables to fill up, the kernel can't track RAM any more (even if it has plenty) so it has to scan the entire table to garbage collect unused PV entries. Depending on the exact circumstance, this usually won't hurt much, but it does create a performance problem while the kernel is working on it. Raising PMAP_SHPGPERPROC works most of the time. You can also re-tune your Apache setting to keep processes from constantly spawning and dying. For example, set the max spare and min spare servers settings higher, so Apache keeps more spare servers around instead of spawning them on demand and killing them when the demand ends. Another option is to upgrade to 7.X, which seems to have replaced the mechanism by which this is done to be more dynamic and not have this problem. --=20 Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:08:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12B11065671 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804B98FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XqNv1a00N1HzFnQ51w7rVj; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:07:51 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Xw7p1a00E2P6wsM3aw7puQ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:07:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=XYh64lbDf2ofeUqj440A:9 a=IaPLs5Z3WF76sdrdxZwbe0ux6HwA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15122C9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:07:49 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: clemens fischer Message-ID: <20081027200749.GB29814@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:08:05 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 08:53:46PM +0100, clemens fischer wrote: > Some of the programs in games/freebsd-games, notably hack and larn, have > the following problem: Given the declarations: > > char *scrollname[] = { char *potionname[] = { > "\0enchant armor", "\0sleep", > "\0enchant weapon", "\0healing", > ... ... > "\0 " "\0 " > }; }; > > (in larn/data.c) the code continues to flag the availability of some > scroll or potion by writing into the first byte of the strings in these > arrays: > > for (i=0; i for (i=0; i > This leads to SIGSEGV crashes. I think this came about with the gcc-4xx > series of our compiler, but I'm not really sure. I verified that > scrollname and potionname reside in the writable .data segment. The > segv is reproducable. Does anybody know what is wrong with this code? > I assume i could arrange for the flagging to be done in a separate data > structure, but since the programs worked for years this way, I think > there should be an easier way. You've already filed a PR on this? ports/127728. Though that PR encapsulates two or 3 different things, which isn't good. Secondly, there have been complaints about similar issues in the past. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-January/046245.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2008-March/047244.html I think the bottom line here is that until someone steps up and actually volunteers to fix the code, it will remain broken. (I don't normally tote this attitude, but in this case it's applicable: this is a volunteer project! :-) ) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:14:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997E11065675 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541E8FC21 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2105770rvf.43 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:14:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0B6YQZ0HDPXezxeLRxOoeVEQQ077eWnHi5WBl4FhKY8=; b=C98FsmCD3bEmhZ/URNj1lQ3rWUvn5eNm6JiKdq9uGxx4JrswUD4eCpKZPQKQykz3/U 5K00D2BhvD7qjanYgXTjCtc9LSFLL/+D1Kskjs3sw0GUYqC1J6mJu/hI9MRmu3xtG17h RLBZggLUswlJel3Ch07pwIW3jFze9gAWjLjik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZW//NRK2XpRQU0JUC9QuhfkiGozo+jVZkTtgqeAsWwlMl75VnDF6QbxXCb4XjP8Tt3 sQ080PgX1tQCD0RQ12Qqd9i/Kewsx9pdTMTaJxROco78vKJwzu7dY4TRW/m5g1vCS5MA /MXVxDWVoq6+tvVXgQPUzwyPeMyuyK+HRw8jU= Received: by 10.141.198.2 with SMTP id a2mr3473919rvq.219.1225138448627; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.132.16 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8efc42630810271314n3d2c97e6w14f682af14437cfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:14:08 -0400 From: "Simon Chang" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20081027160522.bd32e714.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> <4906196C.8000407@optiksecurite.com> <20081027160522.bd32e714.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: FreeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:14:09 -0000 > Raising PMAP_SHPGPERPROC works most of the time. You can also re-tune > your Apache setting to keep processes from constantly spawning and > dying. For example, set the max spare and min spare servers settings > higher, so Apache keeps more spare servers around instead of spawning > them on demand and killing them when the demand ends. > > Another option is to upgrade to 7.X, which seems to have replaced the > mechanism by which this is done to be more dynamic and not have this > problem. Since he has only this server as production, and does not like re-compiling the kernel on it (and rebooting), the only option that's sensible is retuning Apache and restart services (since an upgrade to 7.X would be even more involved than a kernel rebuild). By the way, does anyone know whether there is any way to tune PMAP_SHPGPERPROC using sysctl, or does such button/knob not exist? SC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:17:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EF3106567C for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C07E8FC21 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1944959fgb.35 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Gi3XelKq7IpsOKyzBwf/dE092T2NGz8ut4sqeIOe/Es=; b=jOPb0NmjH0JmZy+0M+y1dVmb7dsr1IhwxIySA9I/0M7rl+e+0IcYylfU/74LwLfkkg 1qM2sk/4BBjI6dasITtxggFIRqPSH/grBC0tBjBd8GLbIXM3TR00jOMgxmd8fjdGEHg5 0SrEQR0vx3Ijg1XFbjo71CoTRVJlGXTl0ShNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mh8EcbBRoWDp1+GotiIe00dkgjlxoDRC2Nv+9qmPza2peMJ/nDIq5DzaxwxPzrQPiM Pm8lZkc+wKZhqfEbSOHeEemsPKTYS2bEVEEp6diC9RZWlWY5jAxc60L9zk184RmT+5G9 UXZYffwCzBoGWO71LYu9RwHQQXpiX7+qWFiD8= Received: by 10.181.135.5 with SMTP id m5mr1930361bkn.87.1225137226867; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.144.2 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:53:46 +0200 From: "Roey D" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <520812780810262156q45242f50ybd91ea90fcf1db8a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <520812780810262156q45242f50ybd91ea90fcf1db8a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Low bandwidth suggestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:17:14 -0000 2008/10/27 Mauricio L=F3pez : > I'm starting my first steps in FreeBSD, with some experience in Debian > GNU/Linux. I also live in Cuba, a third world country with very low > bandwidth and I'm very interested in having access to the ported > software available for FreeBSD. For now I managed to get the 3 CDs of > the 7.0 RELEASE and install it. > > My question is: what would you recommend to someone who wants to have > the software available offline and perhaps update it monthly? Can I > download and burn in DVDs the entire ports and package collection? > > Regards > Mauricio L=F3pez > If you have a dail-up connection, you can use the "make fetch-recursive" command. This will do nothing but fetch the port you desire, with all it's depenedencies. You can then disconnect your internet connection and start building the ports offline. If you use portupgrade, you can specify the -F flag. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:22:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC77610656A0 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC29B8FC24 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE764EBC09; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:22:54 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Simon Chang" Message-Id: <20081027162254.39a47d1f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <8efc42630810271314n3d2c97e6w14f682af14437cfc@mail.gmail.com> References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> <4906196C.8000407@optiksecurite.com> <20081027160522.bd32e714.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <8efc42630810271314n3d2c97e6w14f682af14437cfc@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:22:57 -0000 In response to "Simon Chang" : > > By the way, does anyone know whether there is any way to tune > PMAP_SHPGPERPROC using sysctl, or does such button/knob not exist? No. I've had this discussion with the developer who originally wrote that code. The table size is too deep inside the kernel to adjust it at run time. The kernel needs to know what it is when it boots, and it can't change after. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:43:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950011065682; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ino-news@kabelmail.de) Received: from smtpa.mediabeam.com (smtpa1.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBE88FC0C; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ino-news@kabelmail.de) Received: from spotteswoode.dnsalias.org (91-64-170-235-dynip.superkabel.de [91.64.170.235]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpa.mediabeam.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9RKMcN1032038; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:22:38 +0100 Received: from spotteswoode.de.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spotteswoode.dnsalias.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258C876C99; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:22:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:22:19 +0100 From: clemens fischer To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081027202219.GE2435@spotteswoode.de.eu.org> References: <20081027200749.GB29814@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081027200749.GB29814@icarus.home.lan> X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Archive: encrypt=none User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-mediaBEAM-MailScanner-Information: Spam-/VirusProtection V1.1 X-mediaBEAM-VirusProtection: clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:09 -0000 > Jeremy Chadwick: > I think the bottom line here is that until someone steps up and > actually volunteers to fix the code, it will remain broken. (I don't > normally tote this attitude, but in this case it's applicable: this is > a volunteer project! :-) ) That's why I want to try my skills on it. I found the emails you cited, but they didn't help much. Gdb(1) is no mystery to me, and it told me where larn crashes. Doing "scrollname[i][0]=' '" with "char *scrollname[] = {"\0something",...}" shouldn't cause a SIGSEGV as far as I know. regards, clemens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 20:44:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793F11065673 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB2B8FC22 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9RKhoG3010652; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:58 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9RKhoG3010652 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1225140238; bh=y5ot/g7KVSqQpQ j6v/ts+K7Z0LH68//ltex1glg4kw0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<49062801.9090805@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,=2 027=20Oct=202008=2020:43:45=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=3DE9?=3D=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20coll ecting=20pv=20entries=20--=20suggest=20increasing=20PMAP_SHPGPERPRO C|References:=20<49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com>|In-Reply-To:=2 0<49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A= 20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"--- ---------enig330E7118D7B77CAC47E7C33E"; b=Ybg1fxCtPEsOdRcsUiDTimnlK 6RK9/jAbk+K2gDeS1gdLwc1uLEU+ehf9vkkl0mL1e/RHaa/11bhtJL3vMqDSvYWf1Iu K2XFAdvAoG6SWuDXj016TYWlnRVhA+pTPhMyog7L7dl1k6GStW/cuI2nHHgPl0SESvs kQxk53bCBsE0= Message-ID: <49062801.9090805@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:45 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> In-Reply-To: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig330E7118D7B77CAC47E7C33E" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8512/Mon Oct 27 18:47:35 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP,NO_RELAYS,URIBL_RHS_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:44:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig330E7118D7B77CAC47E7C33E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Francis Dub=E9 wrote: > Hi everyone, >=20 > I'm running a a webserver on FreeBSD (6.2-RELEASE-p6) and I have this=20 > error in my logs : >=20 > collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC >=20 > I've read that this is mainly caused by Apache spawning too many=20 > processes. Everyone seems to suggest to decrease the MaxClients=20 > directive in Apache(set to 450 at the moment), but here's the=20 > problem...i need to increase it ! During peaks all the processes are in= =20 > use, we even have little drops sometime because there isn't enough=20 > processes to serve the requests. Our traffic is increasing slowly over = > time so i'm affraid that it'll become a real problem soon. Any tips on = > how I could deal with this situation, Apache's or FreBSD's side ? >=20 > Here's the useful part of my conf : >=20 > Apache/2.2.4, compiled with prefork mpm. > httpd.conf : > [...] > > ServerLimit 450 > StartServers 5 > MinSpareServers 5 > MaxSpareServers 10 > MaxClients 450 > MaxRequestsPerChild 0 > >=20 > KeepAlive On > KeepAliveTimeout 15 > MaxKeepAliveRequests 500 > [...] You don't say what sort of content you're serving, but if it is PHP, Ruby-on-Rails, Apache mod_perl or similar dynamic content then=20 here's a very useful strategy. Something like 25-75% of the HTTP queries on a dynamic web site will typically be for static files: images, CSS, javascript, etc. An instance of Apache padded out with all the machinery to run all that dynamic code is not the ideal server for the static stuff. In fact, if you install one of the special super-fast webservers optimised for static content, you'll probably be able to answer all those=20 requests from a single thread of execution of a daemon substantially slimmer than apache. I like nginx for this purpose, but lighttpd is another candidate, or you can even use a 2nd highly optimised=20 instance of apache with almost all of the loadable modules and other=20 stuff stripped out. The tricky bit is managing to direct the HTTP requests to the appropriate= server. With nginx I arrange for apache to bind to the loopback interface and nginx handles the external network i/f, but the document root for both servers is the same directory tree. Then I'd filter off requests for, say, PHP pages using a snippet like so in nginx.conf: location ~ \.php$ { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1; } So all the PHP gets passed through to Apache, and all of the other conten= t (assumed to be static files) is served directly by nginx[1]. It also helps if you set nginx to put an 'Expires:' header several days or weeks in the future for all the static content -- that way the client browser will cache it locally and it won't even need to connect back to your server and try doing an 'if-modified-since' HTTP GET on page refreshes. The principal effect of this is that Apache+PHP basically spends all=20 it's time doing the heavy lifting it's optimised for, and doesn't get dis= tracted by all the little itty-bitty requests. So you need fewer apache child processes, which reduces memory pressure and to some=20 extent competition for CPU resources. An alternative variation on this strategy is to use a reverse proxy -- varnish is purpose designed for this, but you could also use squid in this role -- the idea being that static content can be served mostly out of the proxy cache and it's only the expensive to compute dynamic content that always gets passed all the way back to the origin server. You can also see the same strategy commonly used on Java based sites, with Apache being the small-and-lightning-fast component, shielding a larger and slower instance of Tomcat from the rapacious demands of=20 the Internet surfing public. Cheers, Matthew [1] Setting 'index index.php' in nginx.conf means it will DTRT with directory URLs too. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig330E7118D7B77CAC47E7C33E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkGKAYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxEhwCeJS09/JBZXfB4xQk1qs3Bo9AE MT0An1+nloV63x7tq2GCOlufkLCO7aUF =H8lU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig330E7118D7B77CAC47E7C33E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 21:35:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9C71065670 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FE18FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so569719yxb.13 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:35:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ncc07GFJCAj1U7aTsrY4O0Y2gW6Z9t93C3Ha5E4Alq8=; b=RY6CxgztYLgIvV4Tw7gLIth7lcX8huuQv3tAQ7Ri7AkrgCa8nxISdcmm2Zjlw6K37v gef9PEtGphjmq/EqtargEGa2bqJb5SYaH1VKZuy5VN/lxKFeswfv73ZvHcWERD/KP0Kv ra5sNLaDT8z+r4yq6idS2tNrDfx1RCX/wBp80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wvZkye54cl2SLfP3gRn42HnRvdHMJhLwHhuAHntpONECPII1AkwWcJ4dMlL33hUw01 hJf2tw2n12bijR4JrCaXI+g65rBvL2dvr0pntnNFn7o+5KZJtKIc8xiTZESQIEQpf45e lgc8kyV4jz3NRqEayc5ER2iJHDthJ903/nv8I= Received: by 10.151.15.9 with SMTP id s9mr12898882ybi.205.1225143314095; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.97.11 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990810271435k6531afdfkbe757a266548e974@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:35:14 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Simon Chang" In-Reply-To: <8efc42630810271314n3d2c97e6w14f682af14437cfc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <8efc42630810271157u2202e7f7xfb89a7004d072ae9@mail.gmail.com> <4906196C.8000407@optiksecurite.com> <20081027160522.bd32e714.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <8efc42630810271314n3d2c97e6w14f682af14437cfc@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:35:15 -0000 On 10/27/08, Simon Chang wrote: >> Raising PMAP_SHPGPERPROC works most of the time. You can also re-tune [...] > By the way, does anyone know whether there is any way to tune > PMAP_SHPGPERPROC using sysctl, or does such button/knob not exist? It is tunable with a sysctl in AMD64 kernels, but apparently not in i386. The logged error message in AMD64 mentions the sysctl, at least in 7.0-R. -- Bob Johnson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 22:01:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B051065681 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker-dated-1225835133.4c4a36@rwxrwxrwx.net) Received: from mail.rwxrwxrwx.net (tournoij.xs4all.nl [80.101.196.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EB08FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker-dated-1225835133.4c4a36@rwxrwxrwx.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rwxrwxrwx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50406D4D9 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:45:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.rwxrwxrwx.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.rwxrwxrwx.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uvKdH0817hHB for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:45:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.rwxrwxrwx.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C735C6D4D8; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:45:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by tournoij.xs4all.nl (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:45:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:45:32 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081027214532.GA84098@rwxrwxrwx.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Martin Tournoij Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Hashcash: 1:20:081027:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org::pjm69d6a7vkQc8P4:0000000000000000000000000000000012pA Subject: Re: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Tournoij List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:01:33 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 08:53:46PM +0100, clemens fischer wrote: > Some of the programs in games/freebsd-games, notably hack and larn, have > the following problem: Given the declarations: > > char *scrollname[] = { char *potionname[] = { > "\0enchant armor", "\0sleep", > "\0enchant weapon", "\0healing", > ... ... > "\0 " "\0 " > }; }; > > (in larn/data.c) the code continues to flag the availability of some > scroll or potion by writing into the first byte of the strings in these > arrays: > > for (i=0; i for (i=0; i > This leads to SIGSEGV crashes. I think this came about with the gcc-4xx > series of our compiler, but I'm not really sure. I verified that > scrollname and potionname reside in the writable .data segment. The > segv is reproducable. Does anybody know what is wrong with this code? > I assume i could arrange for the flagging to be done in a separate data > structure, but since the programs worked for years this way, I think > there should be an easier way. > > -c The DragonflyBSD games have many improvements/bugfixes ... I already ported it some time ago, I just need to finish and wrap up ... I'll do it this weekend. -- Martin Tournoij carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net http://www.daemonforums.org QOTD: Q: Why was Stonehenge abandoned? A: It wasn't IBM compatible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 27 23:59:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B88106569F; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF768FC1D; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (Inchoate.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9RNmKoR089330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:18:21 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "M. Warner Losh" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:18:10 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> <20081027.090116.-1827344390.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20081027.090116.-1827344390.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6193595.7Yc4fJACZC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200810281018.18786.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 203.31.81.10 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:03:24 +0000 Cc: pisymbol@gmail.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Subject: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit ?binaries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:59:44 -0000 --nextPart6193595.7Yc4fJACZC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 28 October 2008 01:31:16 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> > > Oliver Fromme writes: > : Daniel O'Connor wrote: > : > On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote: > : > > > this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit > : > > > program. it can't work > : > > > : > > rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. > : > > : > The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily > : > tries to link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable > : > results.. > : > : You *can* link Linux libraries with FreeBSD binaries (and > : vice versa), if the library does not perform any syscalls, > : e.g. it is a pure computation library or similar. > : > : > That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible librari= es > : > :) > : > : No. Please don't put such pseudo-cleverness into rtld. > : It wouldn't be an improvement, in fact it might break some > : working configurations. > > Yes. I have a bunch of printer drivers that I've used that link in > linux shared libraries... They are in ports... Good point.. The problem is really the Linux linker - it will find a FreeBSD library and= =20 try and use it ahead of a Linux one later in the search path - this prevent= s=20 stuff working :) I have this exact problem with libfontconfig and Xilinx ISE. Perhaps instead of ignore, use last.. But then it doesn't really matter for= =20 the FreeBSD linker - I imagine I would have to convince Linux folks it's a= =20 good idea. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart6193595.7Yc4fJACZC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBJBlNC5ZPcIHs/zowRAq5HAJ4tagADbGaxFu1WvSKYl9pZcsFs4gCgmwNv tDsw/tZ5vB0itN7IneoRVLw= =YXsF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6193595.7Yc4fJACZC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 01:56:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395411065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvoth@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC50C8FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvoth@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20081028015626.OFBN2888.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net> for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:56:26 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id D3A42427381FCB13 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0040D645D; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:56:24 -0700 From: Carl Voth User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:56:28 -0000 I'm setting up a dual-disk server and am trying to bring it up with gmirror and gjournal. One slice per disk, the goal being to create a single mirror from said slices with some of the partitions journaled. Installed FreeBSD-7.0RELEASE to ad4, then used technique from here to create single-disk mirror/gm0 on ad6: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ Modified ad4s1a /boot.config to pass control to boot stage 3 on ad6. So far, so good. Began Ralf's procedure for inserting ad4s1 into mirror/gm0. The synchronization began and reached 6% when this little horror appeared: ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=134802751 GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=5). ad6s1[READ(offset=69018976256, length=131072)] GEOM_MIRROR: Synchronization request failed (error=5). mirror/gm0[READ(offset=69018976256, length=131072)] After that, nothing. System unresponsive. Perhaps needless to say, the system also becomes unbootable because the whole point here was to nuke ad4 as part of inserting it into mirror/gm0. I reinstalled FB7 to ad4, redid the /boot.config modification to make ad6/gm0 bootable again and retried the insertion of ad4 into gm0. Exact same error messages at exactly the same point with same consequences. Now, I see that other folks are having unexplained DMA problems too, albeit in different contexts. What should I be concluding here? Those other folks don't seem to be concluding it's bad drives. If there were bad sectors, I'd get different error messages, yes? FWIW, I'm using gjournal on 3 partitions in mirror/gm0. Here's my server's parts list: - Intel S3210SHLC Motherboard. - Kingston KVR800D2E5/2GI 2GB DRAM (x2). - Intel BX80570E3110 Dual-Core Xeon E3110, 3 Ghz 6MB L2 Cache, LGA775. - Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 7200.11, 1TB, SATA (x2). - LG GH20NS10 Internal Super-Multi SecurDisc 20X SATA DVD Rewriter. - Antec 4U22EPS650XR case (NeoPower 650W PSU). Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 02:20:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9C4106567D for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1B8FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 78707 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Oct 2008 03:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Oct 2008 03:23:09 -0000 Message-ID: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:19:56 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: almost OT os x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:20:04 -0000 hi all... this is a bit OT but since bsd and os x have enough in common in the core some people here might have dealt with an os x server before.. ok. here is the problem. i have this os x server put on my lap to administer and there are some really weired things happening. the machine has 2 inet interfaces - 2 cards. one of them - en0 (network A) - is wired to 192.168.x.x and the other - en1 (network B) - has an external ip which is not on the same subnet (network) the 192.168.x.x belongs to. so far so good. theoretically the en1 (network B) card should be accessible through the external ip no matter where you a coming from.... what happens is that if somebody on network A (of en0) tries to access the machine via 192.168.x.x - it works. but if that somebody wants access that machine via the external ip on network B (en1), like they would access any other external IP - they can not. this is weired because they can access any other machine on B . now me being on the network B i can access the machine via the external IP which is also on B, but, and this is the weirdest, i can not access it from outside either A or B with that same IP (?!?). but i can access any other machine on B from outside either subnet.... somehow there is a restriction on the access to be limited to the respective subnets. ipfw rules are not really the problem. i checked. can somebody please explain. if you need more information please ask.... thanks.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 02:41:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DBE10656A5 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE098FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XyXL1a00x0lTkoCA62hmzL; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:41:46 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Y2hj1a00K2P6wsM8Q2hke1; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:41:44 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xfgAq_I20MYA:10 a=6g13V3AkWZwA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=L7sAeeyKSXmshGl1C0MA:9 a=nQVUDPrTRP7mkLxcptcA:7 a=dkCxtVNJe_keUQwUrpFxaDYeeK0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB5D6C9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:41:43 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Carl Voth Message-ID: <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:41:46 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 06:56:24PM -0700, Carl Voth wrote: > I'm setting up a dual-disk server and am trying to bring it up with > gmirror and gjournal. One slice per disk, the goal being to create a > single mirror from said slices with some of the partitions journaled. > Installed FreeBSD-7.0RELEASE to ad4, then used technique from here to > create single-disk mirror/gm0 on ad6: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ > > Modified ad4s1a /boot.config to pass control to boot stage 3 on ad6. So > far, so good. Began Ralf's procedure for inserting ad4s1 into > mirror/gm0. The synchronization began and reached 6% when this little > horror appeared: > > ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 > error=40 LBA=134802751 Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk? This looks to be like a classic block/sector failure. This does not appear to be the infamous famous "DMA timeout" problem, especially if this is the only error you're getting. > I reinstalled FB7 to ad4, redid the /boot.config modification to make > ad6/gm0 bootable again and retried the insertion of ad4 into gm0. Exact > same error messages at exactly the same point with same consequences. So you're saying that the *exact* same READ_DMA error, at the *exact* same LBA, is reported on ad4? If so, that's very bizarre. > Now, I see that other folks are having unexplained DMA problems too, > albeit in different contexts. What should I be concluding here? Those > other folks don't seem to be concluding it's bad drives. If there were > bad sectors, I'd get different error messages, yes? The "error=40" part of what you're seeing seems to imply there's an uncorrectable read transaction that's happened. What other people see are DMA timeouts, but no actual sign of uncorrectable errors. The problem with the "DMA timeout" issue is that it manifests itself in hundreds of different ways. Each case so far has to be handled on an individual basis. > FWIW, I'm using gjournal on 3 partitions in mirror/gm0. > > Here's my server's parts list: > - Seagate ST31000340AS Barracuda 7200.11, 1TB, SATA (x2). Can you please provide the output from the following commands? dmesg vmstat -i atacontrol list atacontrol cap ad4 atacontrol cap ad6 smartctl -a /dev/ad4 smartctl -a /dev/ad6 Thanks. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 02:45:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855281065674 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC278FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Y13g1a0010QkzPwA62l4zg; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:45:04 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Y2l21a00G2P6wsM8N2l3WK; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:45:04 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=mvqpq4V3nldlhpZZ24YA:9 a=-2P7bRoZB4EP9zH8bzkA:7 a=R4198oRxL3G9BFiQGVq29r5VL8EA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CE9C5C9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:45:02 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: kalin m Message-ID: <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> References: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: almost OT os x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:45:05 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19:56PM -0400, kalin m wrote: > this is a bit OT but since bsd and os x have enough in common in the > core some people here might have dealt with an os x server before.. > > ok. here is the problem. i have this os x server put on my lap to > administer and there are some really weired things happening. > > the machine has 2 inet interfaces - 2 cards. one of them - en0 (network > A) - is wired to 192.168.x.x and the other - en1 (network B) - has an > external ip which is not on the same subnet (network) the 192.168.x.x > belongs to. so far so good. > > theoretically the en1 (network B) card should be accessible through the > external ip no matter where you a coming from.... > > what happens is that if somebody on network A (of en0) tries to access > the machine via 192.168.x.x - it works. but if that somebody wants > access that machine via the external ip on network B (en1), like they > would access any other external IP - they can not. this is weired > because they can access any other machine on B . now me being on the > network B i can access the machine via the external IP which is also on > B, but, and this is the weirdest, i can not access it from outside > either A or B with that same IP (?!?). but i can access any other > machine on B from outside either subnet.... What you're describing sounds like a network loopback problem (at least this is what the Linux folks refer to it as). I would recommend you re-post this question to freebsd-net, as someone there can explain to you what's happening in detail, why it happens, and how to solve it effectively. Also, keep in mind that the "FreeBSD and OS X have enough in common" concept is a horrible one -- they do have some pieces in common, but OS X really *is* quite a different beast in numerous respects. Apple, sincerely and honestly, has tinkered with all sorts of pieces. Please keep that in mind. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 03:06:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04591065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:06:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC4A8FC1B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 85558 invoked by uid 1008); 28 Oct 2008 04:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 28 Oct 2008 04:09:55 -0000 Message-ID: <490681C6.3030402@el.net> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:06:46 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: almost OT os x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:06:48 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19:56PM -0400, kalin m wrote: > >> this is a bit OT but since bsd and os x have enough in common in the >> core some people here might have dealt with an os x server before.. >> >> ok. here is the problem. i have this os x server put on my lap to >> administer and there are some really weired things happening. >> >> the machine has 2 inet interfaces - 2 cards. one of them - en0 (network >> A) - is wired to 192.168.x.x and the other - en1 (network B) - has an >> external ip which is not on the same subnet (network) the 192.168.x.x >> belongs to. so far so good. >> >> theoretically the en1 (network B) card should be accessible through the >> external ip no matter where you a coming from.... >> >> what happens is that if somebody on network A (of en0) tries to access >> the machine via 192.168.x.x - it works. but if that somebody wants >> access that machine via the external ip on network B (en1), like they >> would access any other external IP - they can not. this is weired >> because they can access any other machine on B . now me being on the >> network B i can access the machine via the external IP which is also on >> B, but, and this is the weirdest, i can not access it from outside >> either A or B with that same IP (?!?). but i can access any other >> machine on B from outside either subnet.... >> > > What you're describing sounds like a network loopback problem (at least > this is what the Linux folks refer to it as). > > I would recommend you re-post this question to freebsd-net, as someone > there can explain to you what's happening in detail, why it happens, and > how to solve it effectively. > ok. will try there. thanks.... > Also, keep in mind that the "FreeBSD and OS X have enough in common" > concept is a horrible one -- they do have some pieces in common, but > OS X really *is* quite a different beast in numerous respects. Apple, > sincerely and honestly, has tinkered with all sorts of pieces. Please > keep that in mind. :-) > > ok too. i kinda used that as an excuse to post here cause nobody over there - on some os x lists and forums - was trying to help. and having found a lot of solutions on this list as a long time freebsd user i though i'd give it a shot.... thanks.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 04:09:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A9B1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C438FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.244]) by bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:57:00 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:57:00 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:56:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: jerrymc@msu.edu Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:56:56 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2008 03:57:00.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AE6C960:01C938B1] Cc: questions@freebsd.org, LennyCZ@eml.cc Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:09:43 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste 3 >>CDs >> from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet >>connection. >>So >>wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? > >Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to >things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning >(or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from >a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install program >and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that for more >than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others have >done so much longer. > >But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do >installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some >cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available >to them on disk as well. > >Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and >not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed >out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the net. > But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain the >sources for various ports and some special case things. > >////jerry > This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway. -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 04:16:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC971065679 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928DA8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XykM1a0230QuhwU574FnAL; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:15:47 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Y4G41a0092P6wsM3N4G5jF; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:16:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eRxeISc1rmgA:10 a=Jh77GqAbcSgA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=TLv5vPd2yXcRRldAZE4A:9 a=gOoFRpRAQ-7rc0T88PEA:7 a=onw6ojqQ5-tA69qb7xhlYPr9R7cA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8990EC9419; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:16:04 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Steven Susbauer Message-ID: <20081028041604.GA38993@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, questions@freebsd.org, LennyCZ@eml.cc Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:16:07 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: >>> Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste >>> 3 CDs >>> from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet >>> connection. >>> So >>> wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? >> >> Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to >> things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning >> (or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from >> a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install >> program and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that >> for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others >> have >> done so much longer. >> >> But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do >> installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some >> cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available >> to them on disk as well. >> >> Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and >> not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed >> out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the >> net. But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain >> the sources for various ports and some special case things. >> >> ////jerry >> > This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base > distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the > ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and > installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway. Just make sure that if you choose "src" or "ports", that you properly "adopt" your src and ports trees. (This is why I often advocate not installing src/ports from CD/DVD/FTP/whatever, and instead using csup once the box is up and working). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 07:04:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABEE1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF3D8FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25FA16C004E; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:04:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9S74XiE003276; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:04:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:04:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: bofh42 Message-Id: <20081028080433.f8f7c996.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1224949102.29464.0.camel@localhost> References: <1224949102.29464.0.camel@localhost> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:04:36 -0000 On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:38:22 -0400, bofh42 wrote: > Are you sure you are using the correct command to start the DHCP > client? > > I'm not familiar with Archlinux, but on Debian linux the command > you > need is dhclient. That's correcto about FreeBSD where dhclient or the respective RC script in /etc/rc.d/dhclient is responsible for initiating a DHCP request (by the client). A long time ago, I had played around with TomsRTBT (a Linux that fits on a disk - not a disc); there dhcpcd seemed to be the correct DHCP client site program. > On the other hand, dhcpd starts the dhcp > *server* Correct. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 10:03:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EC91065680 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay08.plus.net (pih-relay08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC778FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=3bsd.cpcnw.co.uk) by pih-relay08.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Kukzp-0006lc-0W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:36:17 +0000 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:36:15 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Graham Bentley" Organization: Custom PC North West Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081027184022.14D9D10656C1@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081027184022.14D9D10656C1@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.60 (FreeBSD) X-Plusnet-Relay: 3bec5f92d31175a12839a36bc9ccd0b1 Subject: Seg Fault Action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:03:22 -0000 Hi All, I have often wondered what to do if I compile a port and immediatly after trying to run it I get a seg fault. In the past I have just tried to find an alternative port that did the same job, but it has always felt as though I wasnt trying hard enough. Yesterday after upgrading all my ports tree I decided to get printing working and cups / HP stuff all works fine as does the web gui to cups so I decided to try and make xpp. The result is 'Segmentation Fault' - thats it! How do I go about finding out what caused it and how to get the program running? Any tips etc appreciated! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 10:43:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D18E106566B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bullet446@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FFA8FC24 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bullet446@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so186997ugs.39 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:43:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=fVYaIvvXTqRU4DqFiyqoCVWtAFddJ/XwQGmtNbJN+7w=; b=PEoMGnVquevPpD3YrT8+3PqLTH5YmBkkdU3yqQTdspWojMhEfxxvQ4aKkR31zgk6Nm St1Gwtpe162zXTQc86J8QuBGFpZO0IEbwihb+HnLaqdfLUuMeSvajyorvt5SXBKvWOlm WB8nYwStXF1GZvLJ7d9ntB9TCXk30BDY274UI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=uIaq3I+ZBIMX3wiAiTMECtOE+Yn6Kmd1r4CWNCKAXbKfzMbuqdMeCUs6OzvOF1GQHK th6gfIgwZHe+1YNTvYtYx+a3HrTdmkm3StXFADuD2zJbt0aiDORiUMMwaQ26dqysxwvf M/FmKpcoqH1oJrWkApdnt8rJufrOx0tYfj40Y= Received: by 10.66.218.15 with SMTP id q15mr2787288ugg.77.1225189261187; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.218.9 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <786a1e4f0810280321w7aa8894fnb736fa4c83d3ef5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:21:00 +0000 From: "Bullet 446" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Zero-Fill format before installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:43:44 -0000 I have a remote machine with KVM access that I'd like to format and reinstall FreeBSD 7.0. I've succeded in formatting /dev/ad6 but not the main drive, /dev/ad4. Is it possbile to zero-fill format during the installation instead of simply deleting and recreating partitions? I've tried booting into single user mode without any success: # umount -a umount: /cdrom: not a file system root directory umount: /var: not a file system root directory umount: /usr: not a file system root directory umount: /tmp: not a file system root directory # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 dd: /dev/ad4: Operation not permitted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 10:57:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0F11065673; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jurjenm@stack.nl) Received: from mx1.stack.nl (meestal-mk5.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999438FC22; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jurjenm@stack.nl) Received: from snail.stack.nl (snail.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::131]) by mx1.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489C33F7FF; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 (CET) Received: by snail.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 1909) id 3C26122892; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 From: Jurjen Middendorp To: clemens fischer Message-ID: <20081028105715.GA33501@stack.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Jurjen Middendorp , clemens fischer , Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20081027200749.GB29814@icarus.home.lan> <20081027202219.GE2435@spotteswoode.de.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081027202219.GE2435@spotteswoode.de.eu.org> Organization: Dept. of Truly Sickening Special-Case Kludges User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:57:17 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:22:19PM +0100, clemens fischer wrote: >> Jeremy Chadwick: > >> I think the bottom line here is that until someone steps up and >> actually volunteers to fix the code, it will remain broken. (I don't >> normally tote this attitude, but in this case it's applicable: this is >> a volunteer project! :-) ) > >That's why I want to try my skills on it. I found the emails you cited, >but they didn't help much. > >Gdb(1) is no mystery to me, and it told me where larn crashes. Doing >"scrollname[i][0]=' '" with "char *scrollname[] = {"\0something",...}" >shouldn't cause a SIGSEGV as far as I know. > >regards, clemens If you do char *p = "something", you can't write to that string (it's a pointer into some stringtable: easy way to look at it :). You have to use char p[] = "something", then it's an array with enough storage to write to :) maybe try something like char scrollname[NUMSCROLLS][]; ? greetings, Jurjen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 11:03:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8741065671 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCC18FC28 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9SB3psd003401; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:03:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9SB3njJ003398; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:03:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:03:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Carl Voth In-Reply-To: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> Message-ID: <20081028120008.R3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:03:57 -0000 > so good. Began Ralf's procedure for inserting ad4s1 into mirror/gm0. The > synchronization began and reached 6% when this little horror appeared: > > ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 > LBA=134802751 > GEOM_MIRROR: Request failed (error=5). ad6s1[READ(offset=69018976256, > length=131072)] > GEOM_MIRROR: Synchronization request failed (error=5). > mirror/gm0[READ(offset=69018976256, length=131072)] > your disk failed. (uncorrectable error) assuming you eliminated other causes like drives overheating, cabling problem (don't think so) etc.: boot from some kind of live CD, then make another mirror (single disk now) on other drive, then do dd if=/dev/ad6s1 of=/dev/mirror/newmirror bs=2k conv=noerror,sync i intentionally did bs=2k instead of larger, to minimize amount of lost data. then change your system to boot from newmirror, take out /dev/ad6 and have it replaced on warranty (or buy new), put new ad6, insert it to the mirror. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 11:04:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63731065673; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B068FC1B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9SB4ntr003414; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9SB4nSb003411; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Carl Voth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:04:53 -0000 >> error=40 LBA=134802751 > > Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk? This looks to be like a > classic block/sector failure. This does not appear to be the infamous > famous "DMA timeout" problem, especially if this is the only error > you're getting. he can temporarity boot with hw.ata.ata_dma=0 but i think his drive failed. > >> I reinstalled FB7 to ad4, redid the /boot.config modification to make >> ad6/gm0 bootable again and retried the insertion of ad4 into gm0. Exact >> same error messages at exactly the same point with same consequences. so IT IS FAILED drive! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 10:17:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52061106567E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geseeker@yahoo.com) Received: from n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36E478FC22 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geseeker@yahoo.com) Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2008 10:17:39 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.156] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2008 10:17:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2008 10:17:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 814546.59803.bm@omp404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33622 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Oct 2008 10:17:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=UaIWRV42ErfouwQ/VnJpECJd2mEirI1y87rO1ohWIueDQ9eRR20vWYk0NApR+iRhjTiAkcQvneTVJVCMO9M+jXS9Ro8zpQhuobJDpujfVJ5G3ybGE2ygrsDxidT4/NMXzXj6nzRtTecn8yNA7WAFkA6r08q3a5qeSU7XCiy8O0w=; X-YMail-OSG: QKM4j8cVM1mqs8jxZEZUaVjPRVG_.iK4oM5RmPcHChSQfgmq765U.w_VBcwgd6HQCUns8ipI_a.CDXntW1Tc97XxgsdPvorkQicYrqRWHD.DS57Mw_3CC9uGprcM1m_mpIj7GQ-- Received: from [120.34.58.120] by web45004.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:17:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:17:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <616824.32885.qm@web45004.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:21:26 +0000 Subject: odd problem, system clock stops while power-down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: geseeker@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:17:40 -0000 Hi! I found that the freebsd system clock just stops when i shutdown or reboot the computer. what is odd is that the clock in my BIOS shows the right time, so it couldn't be that CMOS battery is dead. How do i get around this so i wouldn't have to set the clock every time i boot into freebsd? and by the way, does freebsd use the CMOS clock? regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 11:47:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136981065685 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2C48FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C09916C0242; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:46:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9SBkxW7001684; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:46:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:46:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: geseeker@yahoo.com Message-Id: <20081028124658.291b0c40.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <616824.32885.qm@web45004.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <616824.32885.qm@web45004.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: odd problem, system clock stops while power-down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:47:05 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:17:39 -0700 (PDT), Richard Smith wrote: > How do i get around this so i wouldn't have to set the clock every > time i boot into freebsd? and by the way, does freebsd use the > CMOS clock? An idea would to use NTP to get the exact time from your local atomic time dealer at system startup. :-) See ntpd and ntpdate for further information. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 12:04:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8118D1065682 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E90F8FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KunIm-0007VX-Bb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:00 +0000 Received: from 77.22.123.51 ([77.22.123.51]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:00 +0000 Received: from ino-news by 77.22.123.51 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:00 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: clemens fischer Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:03:32 +0100 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <20081027200749.GB29814@icarus.home.lan> <20081027202219.GE2435@spotteswoode.de.eu.org> <20081028105715.GA33501@stack.nl> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.22.123.51 X-Archive: encrypt=none User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: news Subject: Re: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:04:02 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 Jurjen Middendorp wrote: > If you do char *p = "something", you can't write to that string (it's > a pointer into some stringtable: easy way to look at it :). You have > to use char p[] = "something", then it's an array with enough storage > to write to :) maybe try something like char scrollname[NUMSCROLLS][]; ? Thank you and Martin for your very helpful comments! You have a point there: the compiler might put the strings themselves into a read-only table and keep only the pointers to them, as declared. I didn't think of that. Do you happen to know what linker section gcc-4.x puts strings into? I thought I'd clean up that code declaring a real struct like: struct scrollname_s { int active; char name[] = "..."; }; then name could stay read-only. OTOH I found numerous larn versions, so keeping ours "compatible" might keep maintenance costs down. -c From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 12:20:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740561065683 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0388FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YAt11a0031HzFnQ52CLFSK; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:20:15 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YCLD1a00R2P6wsM3aCLEWm; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:20:15 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xfgAq_I20MYA:10 a=6g13V3AkWZwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=nzD-8G9H0Jvefu1zeDUA:9 a=nQsbZJD0xOkfgO-jo2pmka5-zk0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F925C941E; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:20:13 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081028122013.GA49298@icarus.home.lan> References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Carl Voth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:20:16 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:04:49PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> error=40 LBA=134802751 >> >> Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk? This looks to be like a >> classic block/sector failure. This does not appear to be the infamous >> famous "DMA timeout" problem, especially if this is the only error >> you're getting. > > he can temporarity boot with hw.ata.ata_dma=0 They're SATA disks, so this won't do anything sadly. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 12:22:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028D21065683 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFAD8FC28 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Y9us1a00A0ldTLk54CNYy3; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:22:32 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YCNX1a00A2P6wsM3QCNXiP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:22:32 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=805D_X94XuiebNnfhCwA:9 a=hRiHZ6EeoBjVE2Z-_dgA:7 a=ljGJ8sdZjAhMmbysZXoRRrsdiz8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 49DBDC9419; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:22:31 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Bullet 446 Message-ID: <20081028122231.GB49298@icarus.home.lan> References: <786a1e4f0810280321w7aa8894fnb736fa4c83d3ef5e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <786a1e4f0810280321w7aa8894fnb736fa4c83d3ef5e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zero-Fill format before installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:22:38 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:21:00AM +0000, Bullet 446 wrote: > I have a remote machine with KVM access that I'd like to format and > reinstall FreeBSD 7.0. I've succeded in formatting /dev/ad6 but not the main > drive, /dev/ad4. > Is it possbile to zero-fill format during the installation instead of simply > deleting and recreating partitions? > > I've tried booting into single user mode without any success: > # umount -a > umount: /cdrom: not a file system root directory > umount: /var: not a file system root directory > umount: /usr: not a file system root directory > umount: /tmp: not a file system root directory > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 > dd: /dev/ad4: Operation not permitted You need to tell GEOM to allow you to overwrite the MBR at the start of the disk. sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 then do the dd again. I STRONGLY recommend you add "bs=64k" to that dd statement, or else it's going to take a million years. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 13:22:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDC71065673 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439308FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9SDM30J053095; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:22:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:22:03 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081028120023.39C04106577C@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20081028235448.B70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081028120023.39C04106577C@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, geseeker@yahoo.com Subject: Re: odd problem, system clock stops while power-down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:24 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:46:58 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:17:39 -0700 (PDT), Richard Smith wrote: > > How do i get around this so i wouldn't have to set the clock every > > time i boot into freebsd? and by the way, does freebsd use the > > CMOS clock? > > An idea would to use NTP to get the exact time from your > local atomic time dealer at system startup. :-) > > See ntpd and ntpdate for further information. Definitely the best advice. However it doesn't explain why his system apparently fails to retrieve the current date & time from CMOS on boot. Mine always have, though CMOS clocks rarely keep good time, so using NTP after network connection after boot I see initial corrections of several seconds usually .. still it's better than having all your log timestamps screwed after reboot until NTP does its thing. Richard: are you running UTC or local time in CMOS? If the latter, does the file /etc/wall_cmos_clock exist? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 13:22:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2410656A2; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+k@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1718FC26; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+k@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9SCxOCv056217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:59:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+k@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9SCxOIc056214; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:59:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi+k@aldan.algebra.com) From: Mikhail Teterin To: questions@FreeBSD.org, nox@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:59:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Cc: Subject: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:39 -0000 Hello! I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBSD-7/amd64 system. If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin does not work... It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these problems (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks, -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 13:55:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10107106566B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bullet446@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951DA8FC33 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bullet446@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so235871ugs.39 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=YdhKp3Ok3aUdO+MmVHhDroQqaEw/WS8z3VFuC8K0LE8=; b=pgcRB8GVr7lGAc94LS/1H6Z3CltOHylXmnzdXOfGLX48GoQ0Qm7WvH52VfGfcbJ348 hw+U5a4OxYu3DDpvU2ihOc3cGifagmyiZhrMMlgPEtgvyye2wS7cBHy9c4HbQIfV+lt5 sP/MN/r5dkIxWw9ySodM2z8/mlXO3K3l4R6kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pAF3FWh6ZQXsGaVRMp93K8c0ijz4rReenmQsaF1oHMXCoJ7m8jYBu8bs5wYRHC3r5y UnR+bU5wv10RN40qrTZo63iTHgBezQ3WdGGB/hMjwb1S3xfyLji+3NgU2fyJMncHF4T7 ji6jwT4NiWegRg9swfmoL1U40+G7tDjDCVxpQ= Received: by 10.66.224.19 with SMTP id w19mr2939577ugg.72.1225202145868; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.218.9 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <786a1e4f0810280655n61b4735brc16f344e7c9a018d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:55:45 +0000 From: "Bullet 446" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081028122231.GB49298@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <786a1e4f0810280321w7aa8894fnb736fa4c83d3ef5e@mail.gmail.com> <20081028122231.GB49298@icarus.home.lan> Subject: Re: Zero-Fill format before installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:55:48 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 then do the dd again. Thanks Jeremy, that worked fine. > I STRONGLY recommend you add "bs=64k" to that dd statement, or else it's > going to take a million years. :-) That's a good tip, reduced formatting time by 85%! :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 14:43:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5592E1065673 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f15.google.com (mail-gx0-f15.google.com [209.85.217.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139AB8FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so3825865gxk.19 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:43:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; bh=ONmaJlx1s2k8A0/jeVKb040stqs7U/Pl76e2fa2mN/k=; b=DXsKIhguqKxscX3EhXCmtc+u6RNoWS0wFhd1kCIXImtyVKuQyTmIhQoAHKiBHITa8D blE6huRPtk+vBjXrL7PlJzxknfNVtogrmO1IetUi49I3pG1uaU9umuxoEFuSQM7naqg8 el02BxxoOeSt6DdLO1jO4wE57tSbKZJtM+Byc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=fSWwTyv+N+Oc+QlDZH7RZF7ARk3SQrHnnWtXM0B9niHZMDk91dNJsbBYXzRDTgguIk wELuHF424hvTHI0TSPfKiFCb8MjS7qkbWai2PPMhSzWzzqG3Lvsb8fKzwjh2EAFBJezr DX5Z4097okmRXpYyMbHOVb0nUmMeuoqaDOXy4= Received: by 10.151.109.17 with SMTP id l17mr14495733ybm.20.1225205023636; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.84.2 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20def4870810280743v50b32317v3711245fc9110cbe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:43:43 +0200 From: "Yony Yossef" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tom@tomjudge.com, jfvogel@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: eitans@mellanox.co.il, liranl@mellanox.co.il Subject: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:43:45 -0000 Hi, I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0. 1. I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported. Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the driver about a vlan creation/destruction. Is there a way of doing it? 2. Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces? Thanks Yony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 14:45:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BEB1065679 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096678FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [31.33.7.200] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9G009YBEB1AC90@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:44:49 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> In-reply-to: <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:45:02 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick a écrit : > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote: >> >>>> You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your system >>>> can run under high load; generally the amount of system memory is the >>>> governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients higher than that, >>>> your system will start swapping under the load and once you start >>>> hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput will plummet and clients >>>> will start getting lots of broken connections, just as you describe. >>>> >>> According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active >>> (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. >>> >> With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most >> relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or the >> output of "vmstat 1" / "vmstat -s". >> We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do so. >> It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like in >> terms of size, and what your content is like. For Apache serving mostly >> static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you tend to have >> 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you might well be able to >> run 400+ httpd children. On the other hand, as soon as you pull in the >> dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, you end up with much larger >> process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more of their memory usage is >> per-process rather than shared, so even with 4GB you probably won't be >> able to run more than 100-150 children before swapping. >> Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process : 54326 apache 1 96 0 156M 13108K select 1 0:00 0.15% httpd 54952 apache 1 96 0 156M 12684K select 1 0:00 0.10% httpd 52343 apache 1 4 0 155M 12280K select 0 0:01 0.10% httpd Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very light PHP processing. 156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for RES). Concretely, how must I interpret these results ? >> >>> After checking multiple things (MySQL, networks, CPU, RAM) when a drop >>> occurs, we determined that everytimes there is drop, the number is >>> Apache's process is MaxClients (ps aux | grep httpd | wc -l) and the >>> new http request doesn't get answer from Apache (the TCP hanshakes >>> completes but Apache never push the data). >>> >> Yes, that aspect is going to be the same pretty much no matter what the >> bottleneck is or how large you set MaxClients to. You will end up with >> significantly better results (fewer drops, higher aggregate throughput) >> if you tune appropriately than if you try to ramp MaxClients up further >> than the available hardware can support. >> At the moment, the MaxClients isn't higher than the hardware can support, but it will if i raise it again. I've gone through the Apache's doc concerning high load tuning and did all that can be done on the fly (without downtime). We were already planning to add another webserver soon, but maybe not that soon :) >> You might find that checking out the URLs being most commonly listed in >> http://yourdomain.com/server-status when you run into high load problems >> will point towards a particular script or dynamic content which is >> causing a bottleneck. >> Thanks for the tips, i'll take a look at this. > > One of the problems here is that the individual reporting the problem is > basing all of his conclusions on the first couple lines of top(1) > output, and is not bothering to look at per-process RSS or SZ. "I have > lots of Inactive RAM, so what's the problem!??!" > > We should probably take the time to explain to the user the fact that > shared pages per process != amount of RAM that's been touched/used at > one point but is currently unused. Without someone explaining how the > VM works in this regard, he's going to continue to be confused and > correlate things which aren't necessarily related. > Right ! I would really appreciate few explanation on this. Do the shared pages counts as active or inactive RAM ? How can i calculate how much physical RAM an apache process is taking ? How the VM works in this regard ? ;) Thanks everyone ! Francis Dube R&D Optik Securite www.optiksecurite.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:04:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1121F1065676; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A218FC17; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9SG1TAc003688; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:01:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9SG1Sbu003687; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:01:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:01:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081028160128.GD3472@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20081028041604.GA38993@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081028041604.GA38993@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, Steven Susbauer , questions@freebsd.org, LennyCZ@eml.cc Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:04:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:16:04PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > >>> Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste > >>> 3 CDs > >>> from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet > >>> connection. > >>> So > >>> wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? > >> > >> Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to > >> things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning > >> (or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from > >> a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install > >> program and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that > >> for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others > >> have > >> done so much longer. > >> > >> But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do > >> installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some > >> cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available > >> to them on disk as well. > >> > >> Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and > >> not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed > >> out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the > >> net. But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain > >> the sources for various ports and some special case things. > >> > >> ////jerry > >> > > This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base > > distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the > > ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and > > installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway. > > Just make sure that if you choose "src" or "ports", that you properly > "adopt" your src and ports trees. (This is why I often advocate not > installing src/ports from CD/DVD/FTP/whatever, and instead using > csup once the box is up and working). Do you really mean 'update' instead of "adopt" Otherwise, I don't know what you mean by "adopt" in this context. ////jerry > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:25:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4207E1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F89B8FC19 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YBS91a00216AWCUA9GRC1s; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:25:12 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YGRB1a0092P6wsM8SGRBdD; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:25:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WAU4CpJS0y4A:10 a=oCQM3JxpPkUA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=baejmfaL2LySzcAePSgA:9 a=W9OvS48NHVSlxP5CrbcA:7 a=uk0oiMK0H91YMj8grF9Jpoi8Sy0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C2E3C9419; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:25:11 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Francis =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dub=E9?= Message-ID: <20081028162511.GA53758@icarus.home.lan> References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:25:14 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:44:49AM -0400, Francis Dubé wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick a écrit : >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: >> >>> On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote: >>> >>>>> You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your >>>>> system can run under high load; generally the amount of system >>>>> memory is the governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients >>>>> higher than that, your system will start swapping under the load >>>>> and once you start hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput >>>>> will plummet and clients will start getting lots of broken >>>>> connections, just as you describe. >>>>> >>>> According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active >>>> (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. >>>> >>> With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most >>> relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or >>> the output of "vmstat 1" / "vmstat -s". >>> > We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even > during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do > so. I'm not sure you fully understand the concept of swapping (the term can be used for a multitude of things). :-) Some processes which sit idle/unused will have portions of their memory "swapped out" (to swap/disk) to allow for actively running processes to utilise physical memory. This is something to keep in mind. >>> It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like >>> in terms of size, and what your content is like. For Apache serving >>> mostly static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you >>> tend to have 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you >>> might well be able to run 400+ httpd children. On the other hand, as >>> soon as you pull in the dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, >>> you end up with much larger process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more >>> of their memory usage is per-process rather than shared, so even with >>> 4GB you probably won't be able to run more than 100-150 children >>> before swapping. >>> > Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process : > 54326 apache 1 96 0 156M 13108K select 1 0:00 0.15% httpd > 54952 apache 1 96 0 156M 12684K select 1 0:00 0.10% httpd > 52343 apache 1 4 0 155M 12280K select 0 0:01 0.10% httpd > > Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very > light PHP processing. > > 156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for RES). > Concretely, how must I interpret these results ? It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS). The simple version: SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the machine, e.g. shared libraries. It doesn't mean "156MB is being taken up per process". RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that individual process. The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of ~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K). > Right ! I would really appreciate few explanation on this. Do the shared > pages counts as active or inactive RAM ? How can i calculate how much > physical RAM an apache process is taking ? How the VM works in this > regard ? ;) Others will have to explain the shared memory/pages aspect, as it's beyond my understanding. But recent versions of 7.0 and 7.1-PRERELEASE contain a tool called procstat(1) which can help you break down the memory usage within a process. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:26:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1DB1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EAD8FC35 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF935092C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:26:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C165092A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:26:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49073D1B.2090701@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:26:03 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Koudekerke (NL) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Security | Kernel message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:26:04 -0000 A prt of my daily security run: triton.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.VnqB8ZT6 2008-10-27 23:53:32.000000000 +0100 +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP +em0: link state changed to DOWN +em0: link state changed to UP Is there a way of adding the time on every DOWN and UP line? Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:28:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C241065672 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7753C8FC45 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YAuW1a00D1HpZEsAAGURvS; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:25 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YGUP1a00i2P6wsM8aGUQKt; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=eRxeISc1rmgA:10 a=Jh77GqAbcSgA:10 a=jTWcN5MmAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=39rONKzAbRhi_HFc7LoA:9 a=imXsPEOV4VpuCu2Xr5oA:7 a=nuxBC635afIaBFr_UmANdBWFt4YA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BE5E2C9419; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:28:23 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20081028162823.GB53758@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081028041604.GA38993@icarus.home.lan> <20081028160128.GD3472@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081028160128.GD3472@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Steven Susbauer , questions@freebsd.org, LennyCZ@eml.cc Subject: Re: Looking for the right "FreeBSD.iso" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:25 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:01:28PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:16:04PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >>> Maybe I am wrong, but I feel it shouldn't be necessary to waste > > >>> 3 CDs > > >>> from installation if I have a high-speed permanent Internet > > >>> connection. > > >>> So > > >>> wouldn't just 1 DVD-RW do? > > >> > > >> Basically, you are wrong, because you haven't looked far enough in to > > >> things to know that FreeBSD has done it that way from the beginning > > >> (or almost that far back). I have never done a complete install from > > >> a CD or DVD, but just acquired the first disk, booted the install > > >> program and then done the install over the net. I've been doing that > > >> for more than 10 years and am far from being an early adopter. Others > > >> have > > >> done so much longer. > > >> > > >> But, some people are [still] not in the positition to be able to do > > >> installs over the net. Their service is inadequate or, in some > > >> cases they are not even connected, so the whole system is made available > > >> to them on disk as well. > > >> > > >> Actually, I believe, if you are doing just the FreeBSD install, and > > >> not at the same time installing some of the ports, it is still layed > > >> out to need only the first CD even if you are not installing over the > > >> net. But, I haven't checked recent versions. The other CDs contain > > >> the sources for various ports and some special case things. > > >> > > >> ////jerry > > >> > > > This is still the behavior. You can install any of the base > > > distributions for that release with only disc 1, as well as some of the > > > ports. I have had issues booting the netinstall cds for some reason, and > > > installing the distribution from the cd goes faster anyway. > > > > Just make sure that if you choose "src" or "ports", that you properly > > "adopt" your src and ports trees. (This is why I often advocate not > > installing src/ports from CD/DVD/FTP/whatever, and instead using > > csup once the box is up and working). > > Do you really mean 'update' instead of "adopt" > > Otherwise, I don't know what you mean by "adopt" in this context. Nope, I said "adopt" and I do in fact mean "adopt". The below site is for cvsup, but what I'm describing affects csup as well -- it's just the nature of the beast. http://www.cvsup.org/faq.html#caniadopt The simple version of why this is necessary: when you install src or ports from the installation media, there is no associated CVS database to cross-reference what version of the file correlates with what on the cvsup server. The databases are stored in /var/db/sup (or /usr/sup if you're using a very old version of FreeBSD with very old supfiles). Thus, "adopting" means you need to create those databases to make sure the cvsup/csup tools are truly "in sync" with what exists on your filesystem (in /usr/src and /usr/ports). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:32:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2910D106566C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADE28FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YC3b1a00317dt5G51GYdVb; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:32:37 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YGYc1a0052P6wsM3ZGYco5; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:32:37 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=RvyIYoC7ZdwpyBnaRFkA:9 a=J7L9tdi0kVpTA0NoytwA:7 a=t1r4GbV4NkdmZXW38ezGoCaiVQkA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 13781C9419; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:32:36 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: <20081028163236.GC53758@icarus.home.lan> References: <49073D1B.2090701@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49073D1B.2090701@webrz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Security | Kernel message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:32:40 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:26:03PM +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > A prt of my daily security run: > > triton.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages: > +++ /tmp/security.VnqB8ZT6 2008-10-27 23:53:32.000000000 +0100 > +em0: link state changed to DOWN > +em0: link state changed to UP > +em0: link state changed to DOWN > +em0: link state changed to UP > +em0: link state changed to DOWN > +em0: link state changed to UP > > Is there a way of adding the time on every DOWN and UP line? No, because the messages are in the kernel log. The kernel itself does not print timestamps, because that's silly. Try doing this: 1) Edit /etc/syslog.conf and enable /var/log/all.log, 2) touch /var/log/all.log 3) chown root:wheel /var/log/all.log 4) chmod 600 /var/log/all.log 5) killall -HUP syslogd Then wait until the next event, and examine /var/log/all.log, which will contain timestamps. Also, are you seeing any "watchdog timeout" events on em0 as well? If so, please read the "Network devices" section of my Wiki regarding what this problem could be (specific to certain models of Intel 82573 NIC): http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:46:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED54E106567F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3CA8FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kernel@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EFC50929 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:46:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEEF50927 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:46:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490741ED.1090908@webrz.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:46:37 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Koudekerke (NL) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions References: <49073D1B.2090701@webrz.net> <20081028163236.GC53758@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081028163236.GC53758@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: Security | Kernel message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:46:37 -0000 Jeremy, Uit een eerder bericht (28-10-2008 17:32): > No, because the messages are in the kernel log. The kernel itself does > not print timestamps, because that's silly. > Yes that is .true. > Try doing this: > Great, will do that! No 'watchdog timeout' events yet :-) thanks for sharing, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:49:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBA4106566B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8214D8FC16; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [31.33.7.200] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9G00CFCK2ENM10@VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4907428A.4030305@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:49:14 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> <20081028162511.GA53758@icarus.home.lan> In-reply-to: <20081028162511.GA53758@icarus.home.lan> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:49:27 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick a écrit : > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:44:49AM -0400, Francis Dubé wrote: > >> Jeremy Chadwick a écrit : >> >>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your >>>>>> system can run under high load; generally the amount of system >>>>>> memory is the governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients >>>>>> higher than that, your system will start swapping under the load >>>>>> and once you start hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput >>>>>> will plummet and clients will start getting lots of broken >>>>>> connections, just as you describe. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active >>>>> (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most >>>> relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or >>>> the output of "vmstat 1" / "vmstat -s". >>>> >>>> >> We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even >> during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do >> so. >> > > I'm not sure you fully understand the concept of swapping (the term can > be used for a multitude of things). :-) Some processes which sit > idle/unused will have portions of their memory "swapped out" (to > swap/disk) to allow for actively running processes to utilise physical > memory. This is something to keep in mind. > > >>>> It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like >>>> in terms of size, and what your content is like. For Apache serving >>>> mostly static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you >>>> tend to have 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you >>>> might well be able to run 400+ httpd children. On the other hand, as >>>> soon as you pull in the dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, >>>> you end up with much larger process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more >>>> of their memory usage is per-process rather than shared, so even with >>>> 4GB you probably won't be able to run more than 100-150 children >>>> before swapping. >>>> >>>> >> Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process : >> 54326 apache 1 96 0 156M 13108K select 1 0:00 0.15% httpd >> 54952 apache 1 96 0 156M 12684K select 1 0:00 0.10% httpd >> 52343 apache 1 4 0 155M 12280K select 0 0:01 0.10% httpd >> >> Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very >> light PHP processing. >> >> 156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for RES). >> Concretely, how must I interpret these results ? >> > > It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between > SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS). The simple version: > > SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the > machine, e.g. shared libraries. It doesn't mean "156MB is being taken > up per process". > > RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that individual > process. The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of > ~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K). > As I said, even with RES the numbers dont seems to have any sense. Let's say 12500K x 450 = ~5500MBytes. Considering there's a lot of process other than Apache running on the server...there's something wrong. Is there something shared in RES too ? > >> Right ! I would really appreciate few explanation on this. Do the shared >> pages counts as active or inactive RAM ? How can i calculate how much >> physical RAM an apache process is taking ? How the VM works in this >> regard ? ;) >> > > Others will have to explain the shared memory/pages aspect, as it's > beyond my understanding. But recent versions of 7.0 and 7.1-PRERELEASE > contain a tool called procstat(1) which can help you break down the > memory usage within a process. > > Our next server will be in 7.0 for sure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:13:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83516106567C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [69.31.85.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229858FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from [172.16.1.8] ([204.107.76.14]) (authenticated user mikel@olivent.com) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.0) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:13:26 -0400 References: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> <490681C6.3030402@el.net> Message-Id: From: Mikel King To: kalin m In-Reply-To: <490681C6.3030402@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:12:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: almost OT os x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:13:31 -0000 On Oct 27, 2008, at 11:06 PM, kalin m wrote: > > > > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19:56PM -0400, kalin m wrote: >> >>> this is a bit OT but since bsd and os x have enough in common in >>> the core some people here might have dealt with an os x server >>> before.. >>> >>> ok. here is the problem. i have this os x server put on my lap to >>> administer and there are some really weired things happening. >>> >>> the machine has 2 inet interfaces - 2 cards. one of them - en0 >>> (network A) - is wired to 192.168.x.x and the other - en1 >>> (network B) - has an external ip which is not on the same subnet >>> (network) the 192.168.x.x belongs to. so far so good. >>> >>> theoretically the en1 (network B) card should be accessible >>> through the external ip no matter where you a coming from.... >>> >>> what happens is that if somebody on network A (of en0) tries to >>> access the machine via 192.168.x.x - it works. but if that >>> somebody wants access that machine via the external ip on network >>> B (en1), like they would access any other external IP - they can >>> not. this is weired because they can access any other machine on >>> B . now me being on the network B i can access the machine via >>> the external IP which is also on B, but, and this is the >>> weirdest, i can not access it from outside either A or B with >>> that same IP (?!?). but i can access any other machine on B from >>> outside either subnet.... >> >> What you're describing sounds like a network loopback problem (at >> least >> this is what the Linux folks refer to it as). >> >> I would recommend you re-post this question to freebsd-net, as >> someone >> there can explain to you what's happening in detail, why it >> happens, and >> how to solve it effectively. >> > ok. will try there. thanks.... > >> Also, keep in mind that the "FreeBSD and OS X have enough in common" >> concept is a horrible one -- they do have some pieces in common, but >> OS X really *is* quite a different beast in numerous respects. >> Apple, >> sincerely and honestly, has tinkered with all sorts of pieces. >> Please >> keep that in mind. :-) >> >> > ok too. i kinda used that as an excuse to post here cause nobody > over there - on some os x lists and forums - was trying to help. and > having found a lot of solutions on this list as a long time freebsd > user i though i'd give it a shot.... > > thanks.... Kalin, Did you add a specific route for the alternative network? I know this may sound crazy but for whatever reason Macs don't override the default route automatically. You would think that any attached ethernet device would be considered a best route to that LAN however I have had experience otherwise. Cheers, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, Daemon News Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court Medford, NY 11763 http://www.olivent.com http://www.daemonnews.org http://www.bsdmag.org skype: mikel.king +------------------------------------------+ How do you spell cooperation? Pessimists use each other, but optimists help each other. Collaboration feeds your spirit, while competition only stokes your ego. You'll find the best way to get along. +------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:15:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C691065748 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716FF8FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KusAW-0001To-Bf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:51 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KusAV-0005Jh-14 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:47 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9SHFkKb070136 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:46 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9SHFjFE070135 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:45 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:45 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081028171545.GA70102@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: camcontrol(8) - Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:15:56 -0000 I cannot get my scsi scanner detected. I'm using FBSD 8.0-current on i386. I'm trying to connect a scsi scanner. I've the following card: ahc0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xff8ff000-0xff8f ffff irq 10 at device 0.0 on pci1 ahc0: [ITHREAD] aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs The scanner's SCSI ID is 6 and it is switched on at boot. I get the following in dmesg: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe0:ahc0:0:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe1:ahc0:0:1:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe2:ahc0:0:2:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe3:ahc0:0:3:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe4:ahc0:0:4:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe5:ahc0:0:5:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe7:ahc0:0:8:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe8:ahc0:0:9:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe9:ahc0:0:10:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe10:ahc0:0:11:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe11:ahc0:0:12:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe12:ahc0:0:13:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe13:ahc0:0:14:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe14:ahc0:0:15:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase SEQADDR == 0x170 and each time I run # camcontrol rescan all Re-scan of bus 0 was successful # I get these lines added to dmesg: (probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): Unexpected busfree in Message-out phase SEQADDR == 0x170 and nothing is detected: I'm sure I miss something out, so I don't think this is a `currnet' issue. Any advice? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 15:07:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855251065675 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 559D18FC1F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 64512 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Oct 2008 14:41:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HNqKNDVjrEI0rbaowo5NxtP3ZUwp7JNPceOztEazOE+MpbXtzSY1xopnY1MNh/d65PDXRKFFV0/7OBtSdkMNgc1299Gxhli7qxAuLgBRrucSUsYk7kchD6EIXxaB4VLATYVan7FrNLqgg0A9nCGAaG8Dfdfaa7UGxHDScAi/Z9U=; X-YMail-OSG: Xwj1fO4VM1lfPiPQDoxBIWAgKWs_1eMJZgQGBZ6XA3TunjuqQkUL3dI.cISmpg2aeMoVd8AmsNRGnrkTfPjMmmh8EC.QqiXlebkEeVqQ.z7Zg089QiNXLKMplTn4sOCy4n_HgAWXM69WI35FKcZtJBOVYF06BF5JSSEK7DuHdS64VWI3RpMR7T7uOojzDWgKIPByl47w9dmI Received: from [213.157.180.252] by web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:41:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.11 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:41:02 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Mikhail Teterin , questions@FreeBSD.org, nox@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:19:25 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:07:43 -0000 Hello!=0A=0AI also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunat= ely without success.=0AI remaing curios about any solution.=0A=0ALaci=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Mikhail Teterin =0ATo: questions@FreeBSD.org; nox@FreeBSD.org=0ASent: Tuesda= y, October 28, 2008 1:59:23 PM=0ASubject: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD=0A=0AHello= !=0A=0AI'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBS= D-7/amd64 =0Asystem.=0A=0AIf I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, t= he entire browser crashes =0Aquickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a n= ative browser, the =0Awrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Eit= her way, the plugin does =0Anot work...=0A=0AIt appears, there was some act= ivity recently in trying to fix these problems =0A(is it all in linprocfs/?= ) What is the current status? Thanks,=0A=0A -mi=0A______________________= _________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Aht= tp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe,= send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:25:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7694C106566B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.moro@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7A38FC28 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.moro@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1515108wag.27 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:25:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=2qgORhfeEP5mPlW/pRNVRAlcCf3YvZPTHuj96bsY8vQ=; b=szmljDeyywefxoybY7uNfmZcFi2THrsIOG9leTRRX6dziK1tWOBQIZ60/nvW1d07pT 7WaWE8ut4l6wAkMkBuUmUNBuCg4nIrj0qGNWp97gHxI7MArWhnMWdeP1j6YZH4kQ9HIa 5VIAuNaclqGuYOnMorBZ99D3zo1J5hdZNJ6us= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=wWUOhWrVxcZyebIq3Sy+L5Dl8RJ5MIl0g+jAkxOVKc3OywDjILy5IY+INw5h11sIF2 huZeQv4X5G0XqCbuu/hzGyfWdxsgZXuWeZI0CXZU27kUBYsfKWtWj+FBI3PTFreadG85 P03Q1mFcb9guKrrytq3NXXx+3vWhDbsrYXi2E= Received: by 10.114.73.1 with SMTP id v1mr6348041waa.110.1225212800554; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.160.6 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:53:20 +0100 From: "Stefan Moro" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: A gmirror question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:25:16 -0000 Hi! I've got a question regarding the way that gmirror identifies what "components" (if that is the right term) are included in a mirror. I recently created a mirror over two disks, ad2 and ad4. After some bios changes (activating PATA) these devices were changed to ad6 and ad10 respectively. The "magic" thing (which probably isn't so magic =) ) here is that after reboot, gmirror still managed to identify the mirror, now using ad6 and ad10. If I have understood things correctly, gmirror stores all relevant information about the mirror in the last sector on the provider. So I guess one possible solution is that gmirror ,during startup, scans all disks/slices for this magic sector and then "starts" the mirror. But if this is the case, how does gmirror know that it should use (in my example above) ad10 and not ad4 as the additional disk in the mirror. Or does gmirror use something else than the /dev entries to address disks?? I'm just curious how gmirror does this. BR Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:34:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB488106567B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5456D8FC19 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2281384fgb.35 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=esUGVUxJ878YHjDSGoxdcjEsV8PTsWlEa8htBylKI9o=; b=l1AwiCx2U1DJOeon6uQDDWGZCd+wxn6qkg6NvvXiRv/8v35XYs9YjHjj2Jq+OA0UrP f4UxMmLOF3mwJ8xlsRF4SuDO/t/dqFLOR2E/Q7q52gxk2dz+NFDBgX8KiQpI/PRr9ozi sENO4xDDDAt0EERwNHhwW2dM4rgA6VcYaivF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZIiUV27KKiiYecdUYrvbNs3ALaWflDsD/b89GGvIS+3QGWBtMyC0oorBrpHWmz3DxP l9M1ScPWte09Kilj5sgEgTTZkaQHN2Rr2h3bk59doJvOFYT23Bk4rnh3ac43gr7PMsue 44tipmmnKf6jlTmPYRy/zeHEtBCuQhbnmxjnA= Received: by 10.180.204.10 with SMTP id b10mr2227543bkg.201.1225213748092; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.208.16 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a41acea0810281009o4398130ahb7c80cb26403e21f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:09:08 -0700 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "Yony Yossef" In-Reply-To: <20def4870810280743v50b32317v3711245fc9110cbe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20def4870810280743v50b32317v3711245fc9110cbe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: tom@tomjudge.com, eitans@mellanox.co.il, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, liranl@mellanox.co.il Subject: Re: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:34:47 -0000 This change requires kernel changes that may not be compatible with 6.X, I am not sure, I am not the owner of that code. Some reason you can't use 7.1 which will have everything you need? TSO is a hardware feature, I have never tested this, but my suspicion is that if its enabled on the hardware that it will transparently happen in the outbound TX stream, but I am not sure. Jack On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Yony Yossef wrote: > Hi, > > I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0. > > 1. > I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported. > Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the driver > about a vlan creation/destruction. > Is there a way of doing it? > > 2. > Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces? > > Thanks > Yony > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 16:34:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156F4106567B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ntiluno@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f23.google.com (mail-gx0-f23.google.com [209.85.217.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84D58FC35 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ntiluno@gmail.com) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1154910gxk.19 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:34:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=KSF0bnuuFTnqzzTD2FguavtEJJDGvSdMp4Atxpq7qPM=; b=ZZdDw3aVSG7+YoFUkxQI0MHr8Y1UdFfnvnx6kOCRUrwSV+2jjJh4AAEfDAnIRPLH8J shgxQwYzJ2jny2fSMwnsAZd2M7Z2Oyi0sN3JaJzp0/HWmiGlOvanfSYUJdsIjWXYbiyj Br6iPGd1ESdMsOGgnhoaC0WOySg2HwF0+qvsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KCAgOtGeavTzJqANZWK0Mqva3YMllgTMxiQmByf2d1XKd53yBo+Dm3ZC2WYAWYPoB4 BeJwbc/QrhKToatDx0meBlCpbeYwZhpMw0iuHLTxuFyFKQ4YY9L4EeDoJwUAXhtNEiGt Dn5bioyE+FWJRgZayQv39WOu6fA1CooM1Avh8= Received: by 10.151.113.11 with SMTP id q11mr6239443ybm.82.1225210609760; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.50.14 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9c3cc89e0810280916q2a8ada51q8e43fbb9090d7fe2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:16:49 +0800 From: "zhenghua wang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:35:44 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How can I get the screenshots only under the command-line? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:34:04 -0000 I wanna get some screenshots of my command-line-only system(8-current),how can I perform this? Thanks a lot,looking forward to your mail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:54:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB40F1065680 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5EC8FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m9S9112K083014 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:40:36 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [192.168.32.72] (authenticated as k1) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 17:40:35 -0000 From: User Lenzi To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:40:28 -0200 Message-Id: <1225215628.12676.10.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:54:17 -0000 Em Ter, 2008-10-28 às 07:41 -0700, Dánielisz László escreveu: > Hello! > > I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without success. > I remaing curios about any solution. > > Laci > Me too, I am using a "market" aproach, that is: I intend to persuade a notebook producer, to sell the machines with FreeBSD 7.x or FreeBSD 8.x about 3000 machines/month... and without the flash10 working. May be in a month they will start shipping... core 2, 2Gb memory, 250Gb disk, 12" display 1280x800, wireless, camera. for about US$800 As I show them the numbers (about 40k machines/year...) I hope they will make a FreeBSD port... I count on people from FreeBSD list to show the numbers to adobe.... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 17:56:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459EB1065681 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4D88FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so703025hsz.11 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Gaf4MMcwGOHIK1+yJ4LSXhzU1CrnifflLldMQsbZnnY=; b=MTnA37Qg7VDKGIMtqJC/IC8p1MKvQwfc7XQZITIl8Lhv5l6y1XOtrLGifrF9N43Xat pYuLxnYVBOTSpi6nBfoYhSmuE+8NheRfXQFKTSF4KS8/GDRF+5wQqKHRI+YQNcReSOQo isK9aUzvMZilQXKWz9JiPM+8Dp//5ikrRxl2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=O7CcHID4ZAOO9wz73uN1jQBpfmsS5PbEhjzN/WyxCzM+hI7Xhvk8vgSpI6p27/2ry0 WufjsYkB5DQ9uGOo3ENO8WFziEZWOIlhx2bXpw9SP3jV+hxRCwBFmGYoSs6hizpC25ok yZlsEgOsRgq++z7g3XB4LJCqunJax3U3394vY= Received: by 10.86.82.6 with SMTP id f6mr4797849fgb.52.1225215018785; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:30:18 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?=" In-Reply-To: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: nox@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:56:11 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 < laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello! > > I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately withou= t > success. > I remaing curios about any solution. > > Laci > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mikhail Teterin > > To: questions@FreeBSD.org; nox@FreeBSD.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:59:23 PM > Subject: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD > > Hello! > > I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my > FreeBSD-7/amd64 > system. > > If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashe= s > quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the > wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin > does > not work... > > It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these > problems > (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks, > > -mi > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but nox- does say it should work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:08:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9B4106567E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703F58FC22 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 32271 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 18:08:45 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Oct 2008 18:08:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:08:43 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glyn@millingtons.org References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> In-Reply-To: <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nox@FreeBSD.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:08:45 -0000 Sent by Glyn Millington: > My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far > it works flawlessly for me. > This has two problems: 1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy. 2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is what I'm using. -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:11:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D291065679 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from fep7.cogeco.net (smtp2.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853118FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (d221-71-130.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.71.130]) by fep7.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B9742D0 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:49:27 -0400 From: Victor Farah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081028-0, 10/28/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: NFS Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:11:32 -0000 Hello I have about 10 machines that are NFS clients, 5 are new and 5 are older. Anyway the new machine mount from the NFS server just fine. The older machines mount; and I can ls /mnt/data/; BUT when I ls /mnt/data/sc/ on the older machines this happens: nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding But on the new machines they work perfectly fine? As well the old machines mount it as i stated before I can even ls the parent directory /mnt/data/ and it shows me all the directories on the mount, but anytime I ls or do anything inside there it does that or freezes. Any idea's? -- Victor Farah - Systems Administrator netmediaservices.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:16:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FDC1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840D68FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 30279 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 17:49:36 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Oct 2008 17:49:36 -0000 Message-ID: <490750AE.7040303@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:49:34 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nox@freebsd.org References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: matt donovan , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?szl=F3?= , questions@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1?= Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:16:16 -0000 Sent by matt donovan: > FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but > nox- does say it should work I'm using 7.1-PRERELEASE as of Sep 23 and it does not work (yet?) Juergen, please, confirm, that your fixes were committed after Sep 23 -- I'll be happy to rebuild/reboot in that case. Thank you very much! Yours, -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:24:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4602D106567F; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2E18FC19; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 28 Oct 2008 17:54:32 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA5F25EAC; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:53:55 +0000 (GMT) To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Feast: Saints Simon and Jude, apostles, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:53:55 +0000 In-Reply-To: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3=22's?= message of "Tue\, 28 Oct 2008 07\:41\:02 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: nox@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:24:16 -0000 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 writes: > Hello! > > I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately withou= t success. > I remaing curios about any solution. Szia! To be honest I gave up with Flash for either the FreeBSD or Linux version of Firefox. Couldn't get it to work properly. My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far it works flawlessly for me. Mw notes are here :- look for the section headed "Flash? Windows!" atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:27:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0DA106566B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout020.mac.com (asmtpout020.mac.com [17.148.16.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732E88FC0A; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp020.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9G00DVMOMJQB50@asmtp020.mac.com>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <25FDD059-6BE7-4FAB-8FEB-C3D88789EFF2@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= In-reply-to: <4907428A.4030305@optiksecurite.com> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:27:55 -0700 References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> <20081028162511.GA53758@icarus.home.lan> <4907428A.4030305@optiksecurite.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:27:58 -0000 On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Francis Dub=E9 wrote: >>> Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process : >>> 54326 apache 1 96 0 156M 13108K select 1 0:00 =20 >>> 0.15% httpd >>> 54952 apache 1 96 0 156M 12684K select 1 0:00 =20 >>> 0.10% httpd >>> 52343 apache 1 4 0 155M 12280K select 0 0:01 =20 >>> 0.10% httpd >>> >>> Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, =20= >>> very light PHP processing. >>> >>> 156M x 450 process =3D way more RAM than what we have (same for =20 >>> RES). Concretely, how must I interpret these results? First, your Apache children are huge, at least for FreeBSD. :-) =20 Also, they are mostly paged out, which suggests your system is under =20 significant VM pressure, but the vmstat output would be helpful to =20 confirm. >> It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between >> SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS). The simple version: >> >> SIZE =3D=3D amount of memory that's shared across all processes on = the >> machine, e.g. shared libraries. It doesn't mean "156MB is being =20 >> taken >> up per process". SIZE =3D=3D the amount of VM address space allocated by the process. It includes things shared (copy-on-write) between many processes like =20= the shared libraries; it also includes memory-mapped files =20 (including .so's like apache modules being loaded into the process), =20 VM allocated but not yet used by malloc()/brk(), the stack, and so =20 forth. >> RES =3D=3D amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that =20 >> individual >> process. The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of >> ~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K). RES =3D=3D the amount of process VM that is resident in actual physical =20= RAM; the rest of the process is paged out to the swapfile or =20 filesystem for memory-mapped files. > As I said, even with RES the numbers dont seems to have any sense. > > Let's say 12500K x 450 =3D ~5500MBytes. Considering there's a lot of =20= > process other than Apache running on the server...there's something =20= > wrong. Is there something shared in RES too ? Yep. Quite probably a lot, but the amount of memory which is specific =20= to just that process is not easily found from FreeBSD's top, =20 regrettably. For the sake of example, and because the same explanation applies =20 pretty closly to FreeBSD, consider an httpd running on a MacOSX =20 system. Here's top output, which includes columns "RPRVT" for =20 "resident memory used by just this process", "RSHRD" which is =20 "resident, shared with other processes", "RSIZE" which is FreeBSD's =20 "RES", and "VSIZE", which is FreeBSD's "SIZE": Processes: 136 total, 4 running, 132 sleeping... 215 threads =20 11:06:40 Load Avg: 1.71, 1.66, 1.62 CPU usage: 12.5% user, 59.7% sys, =20 27.8% idle SharedLibs: num =3D 141, resident =3D 18.3M code, 2.92M data, 6.40M =20 LinkEdit MemRegions: num =3D 10360, resident =3D 101M + 5.91M private, 159M = shared PhysMem: 159M wired, 252M active, 99.0M inactive, 510M used, 1.50G =20= free VM: 7.16G + 88.8M 1378510(0) pageins, 88743(0) pageouts PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD =20 RSIZE VSIZE 2868 httpd 0.0% 43:21.28 1 12 92 1.82M 144M =20 72.9M 169M 2869 httpd 0.0% 46:29.45 1 12 92 1.95M 144M =20 73.2M 169M 2870 httpd 0.0% 46:55.84 1 12 92 1.89M 144M =20 73.0M 169M ...and the vmmap command, documented here: = http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/vm= map.1.html ...provides detailed info about a single process' VM usage: # vmmap 2870 Virtual Memory Map of process 2870 (httpd) Output report format: 2.0 =3D=3D=3D=3D Non-writable regions for process 2870 __PAGEZERO 00000000-00001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=3DNUL = /usr/=20 sbin/httpd __TEXT 00001000-00050000 [ 316K] r-x/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 sbin/httpd __LINKEDIT 0005a000-00065000 [ 44K] r--/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 sbin/httpd __TEXT 00065000-00068000 [ 12K] r-x/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so __LINKEDIT 00069000-0006a000 [ 4K] r--/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so __TEXT 0006a000-0006c000 [ 8K] r-x/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so __LINKEDIT 0006d000-0006e000 [ 4K] r--/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so [ ... ] __DATA a1a0e000-a1a20000 [ 72K] r--/r-- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib __DATA a1a20000-a1a23000 [ 12K] r--/r-- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib __DATA a4f2c000-a4f2f000 [ 12K] r--/r-- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib __DATA a7233000-a7235000 [ 8K] r--/r-- SM=3DNUL /=20 System/Library/Perl/lib/5.8/libperl.dylib system fffec000-fffef000 [ 12K] ---/rwx SM=3DNUL =20 commpage [libobjc.A.dylib] system fffef000-ffff0000 [ 4K] r-x/rwx SM=3DCOW =20 commpage [libobjc.A.dylib] system ffff8000-ffffa000 [ 8K] r--/r-- SM=3DSHM =20 commpage [libSystem.B.dylib] =3D=3D=3D=3D Writable regions for process 2870 __DATA 00050000-00059000 [ 36K] rw-/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 sbin/httpd __DATA 00059000-0005a000 [ 4K] rw-/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 sbin/httpd __DATA 00068000-00069000 [ 4K] rw-/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so __DATA 0006c000-0006d000 [ 4K] rw-/rwx SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so [ ... ] __DATA a0a3a000-a0a4f000 [ 84K] rw-/rw- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libobjc.A.dylib __OBJC a0a4f000-a0a50000 [ 4K] rw-/rw- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libobjc.A.dylib __DATA a0b70000-a0b71000 [ 4K] rw-/rw- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libauto.dylib __DATA a1425000-a1426000 [ 4K] rw-/rw- SM=3DCOW = /usr/=20 lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib __DATA a7229000-a7233000 [ 40K] rw-/rw- SM=3DCOW /=20 System/Library/Perl/lib/5.8/libperl.dylib Stack bf800000-c0000000 [ 8192K] rw-/rwx SM=3DCOW =20 thread 0 =3D=3D=3D=3D Legend SM=3Dsharing mode: COW=3Dcopy_on_write PRV=3Dprivate NUL=3Dempty ALI=3Daliased SHM=3Dshared ZER=3Dzero_filled S/A=3Dshared_alias =3D=3D=3D=3D Summary for process 2870 ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=3D18840KB resident=3D10976KB(58%) =20= swapped_out_or_unallocated=3D7864KB(42%) Writable regions: Total=3D51100KB written=3D548KB(1%) =20 resident=3D27276KB(53%) swapped_out=3D0KB(0%) unallocated=3D23824KB(47%) REGION TYPE [ VIRTUAL] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D [ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] MALLOC [ 42400K] Stack [ 8192K] VM_ALLOCATE ? [ 364K] __DATA [ 1048K] __LINKEDIT [ 4352K] __OBJC [ 4K] __PAGEZERO [ 4K] __TEXT [ 14488K] mapped file [ 120368K] shared memory [ 4K] system [ 24K] Note that you can obtain somewhat similar information under FreeBSD =20 using the sysutils/pmap port: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU =20= COMMAND 40037 www 1 4 0 28820K 11532K accept 1:10 0.00% =20 httpd # pmap 40037 40037: /usr/local/sbin/httpd Address Kbytes RSS Shared Priv Mode Mapped File 08048000 280 208 280 - r-x /usr/local/sbin/httpd 0808E000 8 8 - 8 rw- /usr/local/sbin/httpd 08090000 16 - - - rw- [swap pager] 08094000 976 - - - rwx [swap pager] 08188000 2420 - - - rwx [swap pager] 083E5000 6968 - - - rwx [swap pager] 2808E000 144 92 144 - r-x /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 280B2000 8 4 8 - rw- /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 280B4000 20 - - - rw- [swap pager] 280B9000 32 - - - rwx [swap pager] 280C1000 64 16 64 - r-x /lib/libz.so.3 [ ... ] 2920F000 4 0 4 - r-x /usr/local/lib/php/=20 20060613/dom.so 29210000 16 0 16 - rwx /usr/local/lib/php/=20 20060613/dom.so 29214000 60 - - - rwx [swap pager] 29225000 16 - - - rwx [swap pager] BFBE0000 128 - - - rwx [swap pager] -------- ------- ------- ------- ------- Total Kb 28740 3996 17384 456 ...and the pmap manpage talks about how to understand this: " To calculate the amount of memory a group of processes is using: - for each process of the same binary, count the private =20= memory used for n-1 processes. - for each binary, count the total resident size once. For example, using the pmap data above, we can calculate that 20 =20= bash binaries would used 452Kbytes * 19 + 1416Kbytes =3D 8588 + 1416 Kbytes =3D 8588Kbytes" Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:30:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F291065671 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26E38FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m9S9112c083014; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:30:31 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [192.168.32.72] (authenticated as k1) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 18:30:30 -0000 From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Victor Farah , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> References: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:30:23 -0200 Message-Id: <1225218623.12676.15.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: NFS Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:30:37 -0000 If your server is nfsv4 (freebsd 7.x) the nfs protocol used is tcp. The older machines (freebsd 5 or 6) the nfs prococol is udp... try to use the -T switch (mount_nfs option...) on the older machines so they will use tcp... hope this will help.... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:32:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2461D1065673 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout015.mac.com (asmtpout015.mac.com [17.148.16.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0B28FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp015.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9G00KWFOTSNB60@asmtp015.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <892FC18B-8AB6-4941-B9F1-110ECFCC2F9A@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: zhenghua wang In-reply-to: <9c3cc89e0810280916q2a8ada51q8e43fbb9090d7fe2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:32:16 -0700 References: <9c3cc89e0810280916q2a8ada51q8e43fbb9090d7fe2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I get the screenshots only under the command-line? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:32:42 -0000 Hi-- On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, zhenghua wang wrote: > I wanna get some screenshots of my command-line-only system(8- > current),how > can I perform this? > Thanks a lot,looking forward to your mail. See "man vidcontrol", as in: The following command will capture the contents of the first virtual ter- minal, and redirect the output to the shot.scr file: vidcontrol -p < /dev/ttyv0 > shot.scr Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:48:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869B91065674 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712B48FC22 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so925541ika.3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:47:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fzIrPIa8X/1kWs9gteAJ004MAsQ6AtfhI5d94LXAPQ4=; b=e+vJWdsV+0hnk1a4PmtRMBSq1878Ca5MkhybFKs3HtlDC7GyEY+HETOLwZM2AZKvR9 vR/rZF6mrKxB/Nt9BPw21fEh2YoHVMhhnTbDgITUivV2lGlR6MtTBC4eTXbyc+hZIg4L hEDonyuQy7DS1sy94HOlK7tVeko/n9qAvPeMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SmAqehyjWkc5WdbMszJkQ5DRVihkbkLw0cFZkKRCbL0HOqRIUrxxFinUe3l+SreVAw Bjclds8NzM3MOZKSY7zFvknxd6GOOG4ihMO/6g1gz6u+GnsQI5RicIj3KVo8ZfUP1BVY gErmfJ9lcOcLAOaJnc+mHs8O/WfU9vh1WQz/I= Received: by 10.210.50.5 with SMTP id x5mr6924334ebx.84.1225219678049; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-289827.home.otenet.gr [85.73.179.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm10761156nfi.13.2008.10.28.11.47.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49075E5A.2000506@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:47:54 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Farah References: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> In-Reply-To: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:48:17 -0000 Victor Farah wrote: > Hello > I have about 10 machines that are NFS clients, 5 are new and 5 are > older. Anyway the new machine mount from the NFS server just fine. > The older machines mount; and I can ls /mnt/data/; BUT when I ls > /mnt/data/sc/ on the older machines this happens: > nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding > nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding > nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding > nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding > > But on the new machines they work perfectly fine? > As well the old machines mount it as i stated before I can even ls the > parent directory /mnt/data/ and it shows me all the directories on the > mount, but anytime I ls or do anything inside there it does that or > freezes. > > Any idea's? > How "old" are these old systems? Do you have any ISA type ethernet cards? Read Handbook's section 30.3.6: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html I actually had this kind of trouble once, and it was due to an ISA network card. I doubt you are really using an ISA card in a production system, but some of the remedies described in the section may give you a hint of what is going on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:49:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034981065680 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joerosenfeld@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895348FC36 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joerosenfeld@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2295134fgb.35 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:49:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=8xAI6Oy6R8Tvlik05NYxeM2ofgfBXqBvxSwWGtSjJ8Y=; b=FxwnaYPgm8N7F7xytkN3SpHF19SAdFhtEn2FSArwOEU8WAy+b3t/PHB5vu6uoqST/i 0ip4j1KccHo+8woNY6etE343Ri/XQ3WcShMg6Cin4Kgm26X5XxQFsVmyl+4gUcEewMOf yz6G1qiZYY8RKYVhxJyMQ9PbHdQkYtwCBgpbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=W5HHPJEANARZAWd7F4S41Ku1/Eyjmp6uwMJhyov4hYpaDuBv+Mg4tlzQGJwVxTbyTK hmSWSXDVU615ZArq1m5vEXwGMogmTXluH9rDiVwXv7IUaPG0yix80nAYQ/zlHIDmDPvG 1LMget1DA+Vb/NBAnUaeJtKcze+ssB04vwgRc= Received: by 10.181.200.6 with SMTP id c6mr2274346bkq.44.1225219770081; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.219.15 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6e5cf6a70810281149m20506de4x37bb00256bce9d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:49:30 -0400 From: "Joachim Rosenfeld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: vlc not decoding certain DVDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:49:32 -0000 Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain CDs? Certain foreign film CDs work fine, but others, mostly US-based Hollywood films don't. I was under the impression that vlc was able to decode everything? I can hear audio on these DVDs, but the video is weird blocks of color. The weird thing is that if I run vlc under WINE, everything works fine. The movie plays, but fullscreen doesn't work and the interface is really horrible on vlc/wine. Any solutions on how to fix this? I am running 7.0-RELEASE on an x86 box. All ports are up to date as of 3 days ago. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:52:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06A4106566C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699228FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 570C6191ACD; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:52:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9SInlDQ032210; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id m9SInkCh032209; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:46 +0100 To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20081028184946.GA32043@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> <490750AE.7040303@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490750AE.7040303@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: matt donovan , =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:52:39 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 01:49:34PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Sent by matt donovan: >> FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but nox- >> does say it should work > I'm using 7.1-PRERELEASE as of Sep 23 and it does not work (yet?) Juergen, > please, confirm, that your fixes (actually its not _my_ fixes, I only merged one of them for 6...) > were committed after Sep 23 -- I'll be > happy to rebuild/reboot in that case. Thank you very much! Yours, Yes, as I said, http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 was committed Oct 20 11:15:57 2008. HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:54:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11EC1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3498FC1C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 03E4A191AB2; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:21:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9SIHW1T030766; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:17:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id m9SIHVXu030765; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:17:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:17:31 +0100 To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: Mikhail Teterin , questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810280859.24048@aldan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: flash9 checklist (was: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:54:12 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 08:59:23AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my FreeBSD-7/amd64 > system. > > If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser crashes > quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, the > wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the plugin does > not work... > > It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these problems > (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks, > > -mi Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup to this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC (the relevant MFC commits are: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs patches for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter commit can't be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, so flash9 probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP you probably should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP you also need to use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not supported with 4BSD. linprocfs patches for 6: http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html ) 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and dependencies are installed and up to date(!). (the default emulators/linux_base-fc4 should work, if you want to use a later one don't forget to set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT to whichever version you use in make.conf. Note however that on 6, only the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 really works.) 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run nspluginwrapper -i /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so and restart firefox. 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of flash9, http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e000016.html (if you use portaudit you need to `make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' to be able to install the port), and fc4 seems to be eol'd too, so you probably want to install something like the noscript firefox extension, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on sites you trust... And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so and /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin (if you see `not found' in there you know something is wrong) - although that doesn't show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. Good luck, Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:58:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050AD1065676 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19E078FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 12022 invoked by uid 98); 28 Oct 2008 18:30:41 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 5.983317 secs); 28 Oct 2008 18:30:41 -0000 Received: from main.lerwick.hopto.org (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 18:30:35 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:31:13 +0000 Message-Id: <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: glyn@millingtons.org, nox@FreeBSD.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:08 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:08 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Sent by Glyn Millington: > > My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far > > it works flawlessly for me. > > > This has two problems: > > 1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy. > 2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is > what I'm using. > > -mi > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon.... I think that project is moving leaps and bounds. Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the people who write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating System ?? gnash all the way for me.. Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 19:04:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4081065683 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73FFF8FC1B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 18880 invoked by uid 98); 28 Oct 2008 19:03:38 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 0.407969 secs); 28 Oct 2008 19:03:38 -0000 Received: from main.lerwick.hopto.org (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 19:03:37 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <49075B51.8080607@aldan.algebra.com> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <49075B51.8080607@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:04:15 +0000 Message-Id: <1225220655.81074.64.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: glyn@millingtons.org, nox@FreeBSD.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gnash (Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:04:23 -0000 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:34 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Sent by Craig Butler: > > gnash all the way for me.. > > > Does it work with YouTube? > > -mi > Some of the video's work on youtube with the gnash-devel I think there is an issue with the videos that use the On2 VP62 codec... (again another closed sourced codec no suprise there !) It is a work in progress, but it works good enough for me. I am sure the developers will work the little niggles out. I am not overly concerned about the VP62 tho, we should have a choice ! Go on give it a try see if it works for you... No loss if it doesn't. Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 19:09:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9717E1065680 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from fep7.cogeco.net (smtp2.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735C18FC22 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (d221-71-130.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.71.130]) by fep7.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC364CA6; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4907636C.60102@netmediaservices.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:09:32 -0400 From: Victor Farah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> <49075E5A.2000506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49075E5A.2000506@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081028-0, 10/28/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:09:40 -0000 AWESOME this worked like a charm, I added -r=1024 to it and BAM works! :) Thank you everybody! Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Victor Farah wrote: >> Hello >> I have about 10 machines that are NFS clients, 5 are new and 5 are >> older. Anyway the new machine mount from the NFS server just fine. >> The older machines mount; and I can ls /mnt/data/; BUT when I ls >> /mnt/data/sc/ on the older machines this happens: >> nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding >> nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding >> nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding >> nfs server 192.168.10.162:/data: not responding >> >> But on the new machines they work perfectly fine? >> As well the old machines mount it as i stated before I can even ls the >> parent directory /mnt/data/ and it shows me all the directories on the >> mount, but anytime I ls or do anything inside there it does that or >> freezes. >> >> Any idea's? >> > How "old" are these old systems? Do you have any ISA type ethernet cards? > > Read Handbook's section 30.3.6: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html > > I actually had this kind of trouble once, and it was due to an ISA > network card. I doubt you are really using an ISA card in a production > system, but some of the remedies described in the section may give you a > hint of what is going on. > > -- Victor Farah - Systems Administrator netmediaservices.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 19:10:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609B2106567B for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154518FC1F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Oct 2008 15:10:21 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KJX07651; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Oct 2008 15:10:19 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18695.25498.725597.203409@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:10:18 -0400 To: Craig Butler In-Reply-To: <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:10:22 -0000 Craig Butler writes: > The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon.... > I think that project is moving leaps and bounds. The last time I tried it (2-3 months ago) gnash was no more funnctional than Flash 9. > Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the > people who write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating > System ?? I have read - some place that made me give it credence - that while Flash 10 /in se/ will not necessarily be more non-(Windows/ OS X) friendly, Actionscript (which as I understand it is the link between the broswer and Flash) was being developed in ... consultation if not necessaeily cooperation ... with the open source community and there was reasonable hope a formal spec might made freely available. Mind you, this was a year (maybe more) ago. I have no idea how that turned out, or even if it was accurate yo begin with. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:38:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4680C106577E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1558FE96 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9SJEptx004337; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:14:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9SJEoxM004336; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:14:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:14:50 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: User Lenzi Message-ID: <20081028191450.GC4236@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1225215628.12676.10.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1225215628.12676.10.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:38:30 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:40:28PM -0200, User Lenzi wrote: > Em Ter, 2008-10-28 às 07:41 -0700, Dánielisz László escreveu: > > > Hello! > > > > I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately without success. > > I remaing curios about any solution. > > > > Laci > > > > Me too, I am using a "market" aproach, that is: > I intend to persuade a notebook producer, to sell the > machines with FreeBSD 7.x or FreeBSD 8.x > about 3000 machines/month... and without the flash10 > working. May be in a month they will start shipping... > core 2, 2Gb memory, 250Gb disk, 12" display 1280x800, wireless, > camera. for about US$800 > > As I show them the numbers (about 40k machines/year...) > I hope they will make a FreeBSD port... Good. I hope you can pull it off. ////jerry > > I count on people from FreeBSD list to show the numbers > to adobe.... > > Sergio > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:39:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F401065677 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8728FE4C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n8so385715gve.39 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:39:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=rOGaKLBsJ0Y6PAi8HAiwTgHUVki3cN2fhrU9u43k4KE=; b=IS7Q6EQB4UiTnPvsoQk1ckY5Sujy5AkVMod54W2P/qFkwiefLRj9+2AI5VFLQhW2Rz B7X0ENnoIb6DFGsyOJ3aZoIuFPpeseD6WuGdYCRnOASq7bjTmG4J+41wqK2eDFoMtzrL rKYbVv0BX247J76Mb9xDoPVbbBN6mDMtbqj/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=SI82kEjYCfzjRfZTSxYMnc+sFOtVCewAToWu1DIBZ3ICp8xHn201xRftGHjGKpkpup PcMT6WKeYqwc9UiYz+75SbXdpYWb5ig0O0+N3dyLX6/mjB+e9aM5yaD65AaNhpfP63+q SnLgZKGTovT0san9+2e74jopLxFdfcUlD2Y2s= Received: by 10.86.82.6 with SMTP id f6mr4958886fgb.10.1225226350496; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810281339i76a48c23r81498dc8529848c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:39:10 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "Joachim Rosenfeld" In-Reply-To: <6e5cf6a70810281149m20506de4x37bb00256bce9d3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6e5cf6a70810281149m20506de4x37bb00256bce9d3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vlc not decoding certain DVDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:39:15 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Joachim Rosenfeld wrote: > Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain > CDs? Certain foreign film CDs work fine, but others, mostly US-based > Hollywood films don't. I was under the impression that vlc was able to > decode everything? I can hear audio on these DVDs, but the video is > weird blocks of color. > > The weird thing is that if I run vlc under WINE, everything works > fine. The movie plays, but fullscreen doesn't work and the interface > is really horrible on vlc/wine. > > Any solutions on how to fix this? > > I am running 7.0-RELEASE on an x86 box. > > All ports are up to date as of 3 days ago. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" umm VLC hasn't been able to decode everything for quite a long time install libdvdcss From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:31:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D481065683 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F088FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (pD9E2C65C.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.198.92]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37802E0C9; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8838C39CEB; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m9SIDZPH096438; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from 192.168.2.100 ([192.168.2.100]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20081028191335.26152gicr4ni54ys@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:35 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: "Daniel O'Connor" References: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> <20081027.090116.-1827344390.imp@bsdimp.com> <200810281018.18786.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200810281018.18786.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: A37802E0C9.91F1B X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.994, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 1.40, NO_RDNS2 0.01, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, SMILEY -0.50) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:44:54 +0000 Cc: pisymbol@gmail.com, olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: RTLD changes for non-native system (was: Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit ?binaries?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:31:34 -0000 Quoting Daniel O'Connor (from Tue, 28 Oct 2008 =20 10:18:10 +1030): > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 01:31:16 M. Warner Losh wrote: >> In message: <200810271411.m9REB6te015188@lurza.secnetix.de> >> >> Oliver Fromme writes: >> : Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> : > On Friday 24 October 2008 23:20:59 Peter Jeremy wrote: >> : > > > this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit >> : > > > program. it can't work >> : > > >> : > > rtld shouldn't attempt to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit programs. >> : > >> : > The same problem happens with the Linux run time linker - it merrily >> : > tries to link FreeBSD libraries to Linux binaries with predictable >> : > results.. >> : >> : You *can* link Linux libraries with FreeBSD binaries (and >> : vice versa), if the library does not perform any syscalls, >> : e.g. it is a pure computation library or similar. >> : >> : > That said it would be really nice if it ignored incompatible librari= es >> : > :) >> : >> : No. Please don't put such pseudo-cleverness into rtld. >> : It wouldn't be an improvement, in fact it might break some >> : working configurations. >> >> Yes. I have a bunch of printer drivers that I've used that link in >> linux shared libraries... They are in ports... > > Good point.. > The problem is really the Linux linker - it will find a FreeBSD library an= d > try and use it ahead of a Linux one later in the search path - this preven= ts > stuff working :) > > I have this exact problem with libfontconfig and Xilinx ISE. > > Perhaps instead of ignore, use last.. But then it doesn't really matter fo= r > the FreeBSD linker - I imagine I would have to convince Linux folks it's a > good idea. Please ignore for a moment that we are not talking about changing the =20 FreeBSD RTLD anymore: Would it make sense (for us and/or for GNU) to first search for libs =20 for the current system and if none are found to try the others? Bye, Alexander. --=20 There is hardly a thing in the world that some man can not make a little worse and sell a little cheaper. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 18:34:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4EE1065676 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAA98FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 30467 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2008 18:34:59 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Oct 2008 18:34:59 -0000 Message-ID: <49075B51.8080607@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:34:57 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Butler References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> In-Reply-To: <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:45:07 +0000 Cc: glyn@millingtons.org, nox@FreeBSD.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E1szl=F3?= , questions@FreeBSD.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L?= Subject: gnash (Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:35:00 -0000 Sent by Craig Butler: > gnash all the way for me.. > Does it work with YouTube? -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:48:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35A110656EF for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38198900C0 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A4E944FEF for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:30:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YmKUjNdngfOm for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:30:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from athena.daycos.com (athena.daycos.com [IPv6:2001:470:c054:1:221:9bff:fe00:de3f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 22304944FE6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:30:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:30:00 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.2; amd64; ; ) References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> In-Reply-To: <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810281430.00240.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:48:34 -0000 On Tuesday 28 October 2008 13:31:13 Craig Butler wrote: > The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon.... I > think that project is moving leaps and bounds. Any idea how to get the Firefox plugin working? I installed it with "PLUGIN" and "GTK" selected, and /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so is there, but "about:plugins" doesn't reflect it. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:48:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B1910656A9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54924900E1 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2734766wfg.7 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DDazoIMr1qJjz80AYXMhZiW2YkNsI0QCxrZEZokW8Mg=; b=gJATNPuOdonF6Iy10WM6QFc0AYDsc+jLkfsyCz2D15Xq2m8YZVGw+8PU/jmYi4raWk YT5jQQ0Cu5wUBH3+eQsHs+3zmZgm0qFTX3OiviMHwjP/qxTSnvRlFvl3+wzyfUM+aHi5 pfAyu5hRbuIGwkEW24Mo8qlQV/Ev/uA5KZZE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mQtk4prBsoFj2ZOdi+Rtc0k0bPSTpNKpmiU6zV/Etbl46bPZBl+rrqlhhIecsK8L9e wW8mX3ZiYFAZYDJfHlfnKbxHNxezrBFpdvcy5GyfZUUsQmTKPYlBnQq0iwfBy+Io/yTs 7EGFmw6zDe1WDlx80w1gKzdideNqAodheVt8M= Received: by 10.142.174.18 with SMTP id w18mr3512472wfe.290.1225222214851; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.246.17 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0810281230k712b7ff3x51aafc875a9a3e07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:30:14 -0400 From: alexus To: "Robert Huff" In-Reply-To: <18695.25498.725597.203409@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <18695.25498.725597.203409@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Cc: Craig Butler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:48:37 -0000 I'm having issue with flash10 (yet somehow it was working before) and my co-workers, they are able to run it just fine I'm running CentOS 5.2, I know it's not FreeBSD, but still maybe somehow would help... kernel: npviewer.bin[26449]: segfault at 0000000000000000 rip 0000000000000000 rsp 00000000ffa21f9c error 14 this is error message I get through messages On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Craig Butler writes: > >> The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon.... >> I think that project is moving leaps and bounds. > > The last time I tried it (2-3 months ago) gnash was no > more funnctional than Flash 9. > >> Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the >> people who write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating >> System ?? > > I have read - some place that made me give it credence - that > while Flash 10 /in se/ will not necessarily be more non-(Windows/ > OS X) friendly, Actionscript (which as I understand it is the link > between the broswer and Flash) was being developed in > ... consultation if not necessaeily cooperation ... with the open > source community and there was reasonable hope a formal spec might > made freely available. > Mind you, this was a year (maybe more) ago. I have no idea how > that turned out, or even if it was accurate yo begin with. > > > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:53:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528C910656D7; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCC1901C7; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9SIxMdB061262; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:59:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20081028185900.GA30053@thought.org> References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: glyn@millingtons.org, nox@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-15?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:53:28 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 02:08:43PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Sent by Glyn Millington: > >My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far > >it works flawlessly for me. > > > This has two problems: > > 1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy. > 2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is > what I'm using. > > -mi > Not having the ``*required*'' flash-NN that makes the latest animation or A/V apps is the biggest gripe I have relating to not being able to use the most stable OS around, FBSD. Prev'ly when I've asked why sites can't simply use JAVA, I hear that Java is more difficult to use than flash. I understand the basic of animation; that about it. But isn't a better solution to get gnash up to speed rather than begging Adobe to port flash-9 or -10 for us? any thoughts on freeing ourselves from this addiction to flash-* ? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:53:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A991065729; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DA190171; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [31.33.7.200] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9G00IJHRPXHRQQ@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49076949.3000207@optiksecurite.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:34:33 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Chuck Swiger References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <49061898.60903@optiksecurite.com> <6DE465B2-C9D2-4A97-994F-D08CD7FE6211@mac.com> <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> <20081028162511.GA53758@icarus.home.lan> <4907428A.4030305@optiksecurite.com> <25FDD059-6BE7-4FAB-8FEB-C3D88789EFF2@mac.com> In-reply-to: <25FDD059-6BE7-4FAB-8FEB-C3D88789EFF2@mac.com> Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:53:34 -0000 Chuck Swiger a écrit : > On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Francis Dubé wrote: >>>> Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process : >>>> 54326 apache 1 96 0 156M 13108K select 1 0:00 0.15% >>>> httpd >>>> 54952 apache 1 96 0 156M 12684K select 1 0:00 0.10% >>>> httpd >>>> 52343 apache 1 4 0 155M 12280K select 0 0:01 0.10% >>>> httpd >>>> >>>> Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, >>>> very light PHP processing. >>>> >>>> 156M x 450 process = way more RAM than what we have (same for >>>> RES). Concretely, how must I interpret these results? > > First, your Apache children are huge, at least for FreeBSD. :-) > Also, they are mostly paged out, which suggests your system is under > significant VM pressure, but the vmstat output would be helpful to > confirm. I'll try to remove some useless modules. Here's the output of vmstat, i should've pasted it in the previous message, sorry about that. vmstat -s 3777275311 cpu context switches 2105577673 device interrupts 359873900 software interrupts 2670696893 traps 2635245695 system calls 43 kernel threads created 42717777 fork() calls 824925 vfork() calls 0 rfork() calls 5130 swap pager pageins 7513 swap pager pages paged in 5266 swap pager pageouts 10722 swap pager pages paged out 518980 vnode pager pageins 1659001 vnode pager pages paged in 5717865 vnode pager pageouts 11193440 vnode pager pages paged out 5530 page daemon wakeups 140578661 pages examined by the page daemon 1701262 pages reactivated 2968698933 copy-on-write faults 3856240 copy-on-write optimized faults 4090371353 zero fill pages zeroed 3851399420 zero fill pages prezeroed 457318 intransit blocking page faults 1628587285 total VM faults taken 0 pages affected by kernel thread creation 3234876655 pages affected by fork() 88075637 pages affected by vfork() 0 pages affected by rfork() 1591911567 pages freed 2 pages freed by daemon 4139768534 pages freed by exiting processes 331854 pages active 367993 pages inactive 41103 pages in VM cache 118472 pages wired down 93794 pages free 4096 bytes per page 125580578352 total name lookups cache hits (98% pos + 0% neg) system 0% per-directory deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0% > >>> It's as I expected -- you don't understand the difference between >>> SIZE (SZ) and RES (RSS). The simple version: >>> >>> SIZE == amount of memory that's shared across all processes on the >>> machine, e.g. shared libraries. It doesn't mean "156MB is being taken >>> up per process". > > SIZE == the amount of VM address space allocated by the process. > > It includes things shared (copy-on-write) between many processes like > the shared libraries; it also includes memory-mapped files (including > .so's like apache modules being loaded into the process), VM allocated > but not yet used by malloc()/brk(), the stack, and so forth. > >>> RES == amount of memory that's specifically allocated to that >>> individual >>> process. The three httpd processes above are taking up a total of >>> ~38MBytes of memory (13108K + 12684K + 12280K). > > RES == the amount of process VM that is resident in actual physical > RAM; the rest of the process is paged out to the swapfile or > filesystem for memory-mapped files. > >> As I said, even with RES the numbers dont seems to have any sense. >> >> Let's say 12500K x 450 = ~5500MBytes. Considering there's a lot of >> process other than Apache running on the server...there's something >> wrong. Is there something shared in RES too ? > > Yep. Quite probably a lot, but the amount of memory which is specific > to just that process is not easily found from FreeBSD's top, regrettably. > > For the sake of example, and because the same explanation applies > pretty closly to FreeBSD, consider an httpd running on a MacOSX > system. Here's top output, which includes columns "RPRVT" for > "resident memory used by just this process", "RSHRD" which is > "resident, shared with other processes", "RSIZE" which is FreeBSD's > "RES", and "VSIZE", which is FreeBSD's "SIZE": > > Processes: 136 total, 4 running, 132 sleeping... 215 threads > 11:06:40 > Load Avg: 1.71, 1.66, 1.62 CPU usage: 12.5% user, 59.7% sys, > 27.8% idle > SharedLibs: num = 141, resident = 18.3M code, 2.92M data, 6.40M LinkEdit > MemRegions: num = 10360, resident = 101M + 5.91M private, 159M shared > PhysMem: 159M wired, 252M active, 99.0M inactive, 510M used, 1.50G > free > VM: 7.16G + 88.8M 1378510(0) pageins, 88743(0) pageouts > > PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE > VSIZE > 2868 httpd 0.0% 43:21.28 1 12 92 1.82M 144M > 72.9M 169M > 2869 httpd 0.0% 46:29.45 1 12 92 1.95M 144M > 73.2M 169M > 2870 httpd 0.0% 46:55.84 1 12 92 1.89M 144M > 73.0M 169M > > ...and the vmmap command, documented here: > > > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/vmmap.1.html > > > ...provides detailed info about a single process' VM usage: > > # vmmap 2870 > Virtual Memory Map of process 2870 (httpd) > Output report format: 2.0 > > ==== Non-writable regions for process 2870 > __PAGEZERO 00000000-00001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL > /usr/sbin/httpd > __TEXT 00001000-00050000 [ 316K] r-x/rwx SM=COW > /usr/sbin/httpd > __LINKEDIT 0005a000-00065000 [ 44K] r--/rwx SM=COW > /usr/sbin/httpd > __TEXT 00065000-00068000 [ 12K] r-x/rwx SM=COW > /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so > __LINKEDIT 00069000-0006a000 [ 4K] r--/rwx SM=COW > /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so > __TEXT 0006a000-0006c000 [ 8K] r-x/rwx SM=COW > /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so > __LINKEDIT 0006d000-0006e000 [ 4K] r--/rwx SM=COW > /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so > [ ... ] > __DATA a1a0e000-a1a20000 [ 72K] r--/r-- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib > __DATA a1a20000-a1a23000 [ 12K] r--/r-- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib > __DATA a4f2c000-a4f2f000 [ 12K] r--/r-- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libssl.0.9.7.dylib > __DATA a7233000-a7235000 [ 8K] r--/r-- SM=NUL > /System/Library/Perl/lib/5.8/libperl.dylib > system fffec000-fffef000 [ 12K] ---/rwx SM=NUL > commpage [libobjc.A.dylib] > system fffef000-ffff0000 [ 4K] r-x/rwx SM=COW > commpage [libobjc.A.dylib] > system ffff8000-ffffa000 [ 8K] r--/r-- SM=SHM > commpage [libSystem.B.dylib] > > ==== Writable regions for process 2870 > __DATA 00050000-00059000 [ 36K] rw-/rwx SM=COW > /usr/sbin/httpd > __DATA 00059000-0005a000 [ 4K] rw-/rwx SM=COW > /usr/sbin/httpd > __DATA 00068000-00069000 [ 4K] rw-/rwx SM=COW > /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_log_config.so > __DATA 0006c000-0006d000 [ 4K] rw-/rwx SM=COW > /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_mime.so > [ ... ] > __DATA a0a3a000-a0a4f000 [ 84K] rw-/rw- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib > __OBJC a0a4f000-a0a50000 [ 4K] rw-/rw- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib > __DATA a0b70000-a0b71000 [ 4K] rw-/rw- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libauto.dylib > __DATA a1425000-a1426000 [ 4K] rw-/rw- SM=COW > /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib > __DATA a7229000-a7233000 [ 40K] rw-/rw- SM=COW > /System/Library/Perl/lib/5.8/libperl.dylib > Stack bf800000-c0000000 [ 8192K] rw-/rwx SM=COW > thread 0 > > ==== Legend > SM=sharing mode: > COW=copy_on_write PRV=private NUL=empty ALI=aliased > SHM=shared ZER=zero_filled S/A=shared_alias > > ==== Summary for process 2870 > ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=18840KB resident=10976KB(58%) > swapped_out_or_unallocated=7864KB(42%) > Writable regions: Total=51100KB written=548KB(1%) > resident=27276KB(53%) swapped_out=0KB(0%) unallocated=23824KB(47%) > > REGION TYPE [ VIRTUAL] > =========== [ =======] > MALLOC [ 42400K] > Stack [ 8192K] > VM_ALLOCATE ? [ 364K] > __DATA [ 1048K] > __LINKEDIT [ 4352K] > __OBJC [ 4K] > __PAGEZERO [ 4K] > __TEXT [ 14488K] > mapped file [ 120368K] > shared memory [ 4K] > system [ 24K] > > Note that you can obtain somewhat similar information under FreeBSD > using the sysutils/pmap port: > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU > COMMAND > 40037 www 1 4 0 28820K 11532K accept 1:10 0.00% > httpd > > # pmap 40037 > 40037: /usr/local/sbin/httpd > Address Kbytes RSS Shared Priv Mode Mapped File > 08048000 280 208 280 - r-x /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 0808E000 8 8 - 8 rw- /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 08090000 16 - - - rw- [swap pager] > 08094000 976 - - - rwx [swap pager] > 08188000 2420 - - - rwx [swap pager] > 083E5000 6968 - - - rwx [swap pager] > 2808E000 144 92 144 - r-x /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > 280B2000 8 4 8 - rw- /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > 280B4000 20 - - - rw- [swap pager] > 280B9000 32 - - - rwx [swap pager] > 280C1000 64 16 64 - r-x /lib/libz.so.3 > [ ... ] > 2920F000 4 0 4 - r-x > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dom.so > 29210000 16 0 16 - rwx > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dom.so > 29214000 60 - - - rwx [swap pager] > 29225000 16 - - - rwx [swap pager] > > BFBE0000 128 - - - rwx [swap pager] > -------- ------- ------- ------- ------- > Total Kb 28740 3996 17384 456 > > ...and the pmap manpage talks about how to understand this: > > " To calculate the amount of memory a group of processes is using: > > - for each process of the same binary, count the private > memory > used for n-1 processes. > > - for each binary, count the total resident size once. > > For example, using the pmap data above, we can calculate that 20 > bash > binaries would used > > 452Kbytes * 19 + 1416Kbytes = 8588 + 1416 Kbytes > = 8588Kbytes" > > Regards, Thanks for the explanation and for the tool, i've installed it. Now my numbers makes more sense :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:00:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EE0106567C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27968FE5F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so365390ugs.39 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=83glyP41XOr3RrSIP2XOqpOvjelLCGOJxohG+9KOdx8=; b=wjvcpo23jH1HvfqnHZrKKPwwzG/v6nR4BtA5PvStDz179wGS8pRhCID7WsTv3NemBb nrrBkQtggBUiFwa9UdBdK5/Ovd70RgXI0SAlkcP5LQ62YxQMpiuWKiKzAWjT4/uF/XNK J1VWvklU7k/CCL5BWsueZJ2RG4JZxXrP3pZas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DP2bQ0rB9bpPnkFyG+zoa7+YtCUTVX/RUh5fpCYHKHWHFXtM/Kg/wHmAt0unxh2XoC iqRvWXU7+6/FUEZEEWYIGkrScIZy5y2oHd97hEZ5foBAF/GSA8DOHoYQc8WPPEB7gpdp tmNsAgHu97o8obAwVO6O0ogcZNWrEL02ELWbI= Received: by 10.66.236.13 with SMTP id j13mr212439ugh.7.1225227653637; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-289827.home.otenet.gr [85.73.179.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm11699289nfi.13.2008.10.28.14.00.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49077D82.8030207@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:00:50 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Strauser References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <200810281430.00240.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200810281430.00240.kirk@strauser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:00:56 -0000 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 13:31:13 Craig Butler wrote: > > >> The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon.... I >> think that project is moving leaps and bounds. >> > > Any idea how to get the Firefox plugin working? I installed it with "PLUGIN" > and "GTK" selected, and /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so is > there, but "about:plugins" doesn't reflect it. > If it is firefox3 you are talking about, create a symbolic link to the actual plugins directory: ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins (repeat for any other plugins you need from browser_plugins that do not work. Bear in mind that your browser may crash if they happen to be incompatible with firefox3) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:08:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5A3106575C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F9590489 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KuuZY-0002nu-G2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:48 +0000 Received: from 77.22.123.51 ([77.22.123.51]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:48 +0000 Received: from ino-news by 77.22.123.51 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:49:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: clemens fischer Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:24:35 +0100 Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20081027200749.GB29814@icarus.home.lan> <20081027202219.GE2435@spotteswoode.de.eu.org> <20081028105715.GA33501@stack.nl> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.22.123.51 X-Archive: encrypt=none User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: news Subject: Re: reviving games/freebsd-games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:08:31 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:03:32 +0100 clemens fischer wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:57:15 +0100 Jurjen Middendorp wrote: > >> If you do char *p = "something", you can't write to that string >> (it's a pointer into some stringtable: easy way to look at it >> :). You have to use char p[] = "something", then it's an array >> with enough storage to write to :) maybe try something like char >> scrollname[NUMSCROLLS][]; ? this type of declaration evokes "array type has incomplete element type", which is seen as compliant behaviour by gcc experts. so this is a no go. > I thought I'd clean up that code declaring a real struct like: > > struct scrollname_s { > int active; > char name[] = "..."; > }; this is what i actually did. it makes the code way more easier to read and keep. > then name could stay read-only. OTOH I found numerous larn versions, > so keeping ours "compatible" might keep maintenance costs down. I'd still be interested in what others did. -c From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:13:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC381065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from nov.smartt.com (nov.smartt.com [69.31.173.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345168FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from [69.31.174.220] ([69.31.174.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by nov.smartt.com (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m9SLCxL6004704; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:12:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4907805C.3080705@smartt.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:13:00 -0700 From: Chris St Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Moro References: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on nov.smartt.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A gmirror question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:01 -0000 Stefan Moro wrote: > Hi! > > I've got a question regarding the way that gmirror identifies what > "components" (if that is the right term) are included in a mirror. > > I recently created a mirror over two disks, ad2 and ad4. After some > bios changes (activating PATA) these devices were changed to ad6 and > ad10 respectively. > The "magic" thing (which probably isn't so magic =) ) here is that > after reboot, gmirror still managed to identify the mirror, now using > ad6 and ad10. > > If I have understood things correctly, gmirror stores all relevant > information about the mirror in the last sector on the provider. > > So I guess one possible solution is that gmirror ,during startup, > scans all disks/slices for this magic sector and then "starts" the > mirror. > But if this is the case, how does gmirror know that it should use (in > my example above) ad10 and not ad4 as the additional disk in the > mirror. > Or does gmirror use something else than the /dev entries to address disks?? > > I'm just curious how gmirror does this. > > > BR Stefan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I don't know the technical details of the internal working of gmirror, but it likely uses the volume serial number or other such identifier. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:13:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B8B1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1388FC26 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00093BFF6; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zF9Kj8BbK-2L; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:20a:95ff:fed5:10f2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0909E93BFEA; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3C350E65-BC73-4E6B-9660-EEE389DDD782@strauser.com> From: Kirk Strauser To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <49077D82.8030207@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:35 -0500 References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <200810281430.00240.kirk@strauser.com> <49077D82.8030207@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:39 -0000 On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > If it is firefox3 you are talking about, create a symbolic link to > the actual plugins directory: > > ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so /usr/local/ > lib/firefox3/plugins Well, that seems pretty obvious now. It leads me to wonder, though: what browsers *do* look in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins? Or is that just meant to be a convenient place to symlink into? -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:23:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F563106567A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC358FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so372032ugs.39 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:22:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BbNED031xp+cW/BGgNg3re65GGThJujnUVfTg89JP4A=; b=mRGjvf3yzUkbKgrVZ2DQM4n0CefxzLlyxDn3MW0oXFD7Fr6iBhDFPAYg/luoyYrrMR oEnvh/4lqb/gtWVnHON3vi/xUw5WfS01Nuu/NALbkMOx3QMfDa16jp+pY/rrEfZUqGRj AX0W0kH2Xza514y4hkq0GZMgKaoFXImA1OZtQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jtf7NAfxPiUBXEO1zeJlDbX0UD0N4w97R4gktNV/4LyQkjFfegV71+IDTJXk8D/6bl OvorQmxalo9tmzJ+ttY3VLbkQBdkvb2NkpW0gYNcxlNHtdI68lclvErEV5RbxG5GXqvG x7Q+K0QMEeeLr3SutAaLPG3ZptW/NtZfA0Ugo= Received: by 10.210.131.6 with SMTP id e6mr8955514ebd.77.1225228971475; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-289827.home.otenet.gr [85.73.179.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3104059eyg.0.2008.10.28.14.22.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490782A8.4070102@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:22:48 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Strauser References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <200810281430.00240.kirk@strauser.com> <49077D82.8030207@gmail.com> <3C350E65-BC73-4E6B-9660-EEE389DDD782@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <3C350E65-BC73-4E6B-9660-EEE389DDD782@strauser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:23:02 -0000 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> If it is firefox3 you are talking about, create a symbolic link to >> the actual plugins directory: >> >> ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libgnashplugin.so >> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins > > Well, that seems pretty obvious now. It leads me to wonder, though: > what browsers *do* look in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins? Or is that > just meant to be a convenient place to symlink into? > -- > Kirk Strauser > > > The following excerpt from /usr/ports/UPDATING will completely answer your question :) 20080727: AFFECTS: users of www/firefox3 AUTHOR: gnome@FreeBSD.org Update to 3.0.1_1,1; it no longer seeks for plugins in lib/browser_plugins, because few plugins that built with Firefox 2 can cause Firefox 3 to crash. We are working on making some changes with plugins directory by using www/linux-mplayer-plugin/Makefile.npapi. If there are some other plugins that work with Firefox 3 and you would like to use, you can copy them to ~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins manually for now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:28:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59888106567E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8768FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A9493C004; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6OQhIWqXh2Y; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:20a:95ff:fed5:10f2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A467393BFC3; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <7FA5F537-2779-43FE-AAFB-D3020CDD84F3@strauser.com> From: Kirk Strauser To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <490782A8.4070102@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:28:00 -0500 References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <200810281430.00240.kirk@strauser.com> <49077D82.8030207@gmail.com> <3C350E65-BC73-4E6B-9660-EEE389DDD782@strauser.com> <490782A8.4070102@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:28:04 -0000 On Oct 28, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > The following excerpt from /usr/ports/UPDATING will completely > answer your question :) Sigh. And I get onto other people for not reading that. :-D -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:38:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41701065678 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joerosenfeld@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8196F8FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joerosenfeld@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so3018221fkk.11 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:38:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wdFq3LNtvK8OOH48jpS18Gw2UHBSdv1kTrUqhGcW+AA=; b=GCVfKFp0OqVwKIYZJSdr4nKBCv/vI2/IKwtVtZ94SdQL83xdE2VnekfJdaRg09tK9o uI1YiFav0kakuTI4KhcLSzt5Sl39ZHhO8LfpPfkYgYxWtJ5HELqFcOZfhbwV0lXWdom2 WkLN6c+knbl4CEBlCrwTFP77wm3PuIcSxw55Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rY52zg01mgY4HiUNN6GmwEezeWWbDapE4jLCC22R5tN6QlEpYR8BhXfETdLG2/xQXk jYcffaTaH55VFewW7d59QadnxK7pO6DQZ3ijy9+fPd38yekdOpfNi82KoyVIiRf6cxSf eV9aW75CHtZRj/nXiK2Dwoh0Tskg0W2fz4EMU= Received: by 10.180.203.3 with SMTP id a3mr2342647bkg.146.1225229908538; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.219.15 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6e5cf6a70810281438h79da9df3i49ee524ca7d99368@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:38:28 -0400 From: "Joachim Rosenfeld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <28283d910810281339i76a48c23r81498dc8529848c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6e5cf6a70810281149m20506de4x37bb00256bce9d3@mail.gmail.com> <28283d910810281339i76a48c23r81498dc8529848c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vlc not decoding certain DVDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:38:31 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM, matt donovan wrote: > > Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain > > CDs? > > umm VLC hasn't been able to decode everything for quite a long time install > libdvdcss I'll have to go back to that box and check, but I was under the impression that, under FreeBSD ports at least, vlc installs libdvdcss. Is this not the case? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:40:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601D1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com [69.89.21.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92A3D8FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 19647 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 2008 20:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2008 20:31:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=NwdYr8zEjyrJdfwnmAfBIgfqDnLB9c4BdxC/yf03naGL5Ay+1fx0fA4hd6B9rKr1vjFGsBEJMikViZLyqkK/GXXZ9v2UzlJl1IUUc8JUeI5W/rj6PV4HNm6Bs/DGYoiu; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KuvDY-0002nk-1N for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:31:08 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:22:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:22:28 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20081028202228.GA6187@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: questions@FreeBSD.org References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1225218673.81074.42.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:40:54 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 06:31:13PM +0000, Craig Butler wrote: >=20 > The way forwards has to be to jump onto the gnash band wagon.... I > think that project is moving leaps and bounds. =20 >=20 > Why be tied into proprietary closed sourced drivel that the people who > write it aren't prepared to support a decent Operating System ?? >=20 > gnash all the way for me.. I've had better luck with swfdec than gnash. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with top-posting? --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkHdIQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKULhACfSui4XNRp3MaQPCKsjKnpjxh9 cUkAoKDVuRSKuXr50uVAOPLBALyvyQP8 =H+ZT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 21:43:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290851065703 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from fep5.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B9F8FDD5 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victor@netmediaservices.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (d221-71-130.commercial.cgocable.net [216.221.71.130]) by fep5.cogeco.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637273D8E; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49075B22.6090305@netmediaservices.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:34:10 -0400 From: Victor Farah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi References: <490750A7.6050000@netmediaservices.net> <1225218623.12676.15.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> In-Reply-To: <1225218623.12676.15.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081028-0, 10/28/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:43:30 -0000 Sorry I forgot to mention, all machines are FREEBSD6.3 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > If your server is nfsv4 (freebsd 7.x) > the nfs protocol used is tcp. > > The older machines (freebsd 5 or 6) > the nfs prococol is udp... > > try to use the -T switch (mount_nfs option...) on the older machines > > so they will use tcp... > > hope this will help.... > > > Sergio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Victor Farah - Systems Administrator netmediaservices.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 22:04:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FB1106567A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55E28FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B017AAFCF5B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:04:11 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:04:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810221556.28731.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <139b44430810230058k1e18cd33p40638000b7b7c027@mail.gmail.com> <4900377F.60004@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4900377F.60004@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810282304.10527.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Mike Clarke , Valentin Bud Subject: Re: Can't upgrade or deinstall phpMyAdmin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:04:13 -0000 On Thursday 23 October 2008 10:36:15 Matthew Seaman wrote: > The X dependencies come in via php5-gd and pecl-pdflib. php5-gd depends on > gd, which depends on libXpm and t1lib which both depend on X libs. > pecl-pdflib itself depends on php5-gd. Turning off those two options will > keep you X free. More to the point, set WITHOUT_X11=yes in /etc/make.conf or on the command line when building php5-gd and t1lib. On headless servers, putting it in /etc/make.conf will save a few headaches. Sadly, php5-gd hides the WITHOUT_X11 from the OPTIONS dialog, but it's in the /usr/ports/lang/php5/Makefile.ext: .if ${PHP_MODNAME} == "gd" LIB_DEPENDS= freetype.9:${PORTSDIR}/print/freetype2 \ png.5:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/png \ jpeg.9:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/jpeg . if !defined(WITHOUT_X11) USE_XORG= xpm . endif So, if you need more finegrained control, put this in /etc/make.conf: .if !empty(${.CURDIR:M*/graphics/php5-gd/*}) || !empty(${.CURDIR:M*/devel/t1lib/*}) WITHOUT_X11=yes .endif > Valentin Bud wrote: > | > | I am not that good in FBSD so i'm asking > | The good (if not best) thing about the ports system is that Makefiles are readable, though the stuff in /usr/ports/Mk can be overwhelming, you can figure out what does what from a port's Makefile pretty well, even when you don't know much about make(1). And of course there's ports(7) and the elaborate comments at the start of /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 22:37:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FA31065674; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8098F8FC1B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9SManQM009488; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:36:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9SMamIZ009485; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:36:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:36:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Juergen Lock In-Reply-To: <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Message-ID: <20081028233603.Y9459@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: flash9 checklist (was: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:37:04 -0000 macromedia still doesn't support FreeBSD, while it's mostly matter of recompiling. if so - simply don't use it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 22:38:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854CC1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7128FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9SMbxCi009502; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:37:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9SMbxLG009499; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:37:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:37:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Stefan Moro In-Reply-To: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081028233717.M9459@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A gmirror question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:38:06 -0000 > If I have understood things correctly, gmirror stores all relevant > information about the mirror in the last sector on the provider. exactly. it doesn't matter how the disks are connected. all data is in last sector. for non-mirrored drives it's useful to use glabel to get the same From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 22:43:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3107106564A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D948FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yonyossef.lists@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so698107yxb.13 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ncWdiOFhsDGY7h4+Dbn6Ovav1m+7OMr6yHH3DyAMi78=; b=w+6cvh6tJUBI+Qfi0zCinR2A7W41ZnBUhVPt2RDZ3VmL/8LD/ty22rxJT5yOvttXPz t8gkxcPOzhI5tfzeDANSK4qqqoAFF/0L8xiNR2s3OOccbRNv5G1qvDOiGCjguUd2ocs0 YNYojeDBVFu2/04MMJQM/T8daUkbkUXPHXUH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=B6sEnNp3wZg/EAKEqXfVJNfPOq7B7UrGx2EayDst1Xyj6+U3P7z8JdCjd+HBZlMcGI OQvHF7Aae7JxuF5pH83tE6/9j8avidB4akPGTKV/BAS0tb0XzHK5kUIG6OGVCzjeMlP6 QhrgqXzhuUpECxLNG+0G4ruXDiuCAKjFZxVzo= Received: by 10.151.145.21 with SMTP id x21mr15134432ybn.218.1225233837225; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.84.2 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20def4870810281543g3434d380o83a847c6946116ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:43:57 +0200 From: "Yony Yossef" To: "Jack Vogel" In-Reply-To: <2a41acea0810281009o4398130ahb7c80cb26403e21f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20def4870810280743v50b32317v3711245fc9110cbe@mail.gmail.com> <2a41acea0810281009o4398130ahb7c80cb26403e21f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: tom@tomjudge.com, eitans@mellanox.co.il, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, liranl@mellanox.co.il Subject: Re: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:43:58 -0000 > This change requires kernel changes that may not be compatible with 6.X, I > am not sure, > I am not the owner of that code. Some reason you can't use 7.1 which will > have everything > you need? > I'm bound to 6.3 and 7.0 at the moment. Does the vlan ioctls exist only from 7.1 and fourth? If so, are there any kernel patches to make 6.3 / 7.0 support it as well? > > TSO is a hardware feature, I have never tested this, but my suspicion is > that if > its enabled on the hardware that it will transparently happen in the > outbound > TX stream, but I am not sure. > My hardware works fine, I have TSO working on the regular interface. but it seems like vlan interfaces does not inherit the parent device capabilities. > > Jack > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Yony Yossef wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0. >> >> 1. >> I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported. >> Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the >> driver about a vlan creation/destruction. >> Is there a way of doing it? >> >> 2. >> Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces? >> >> Thanks >> Yony >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 22:52:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09CF1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0C98FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E46AFCF5D; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:52:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:52:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810282352.44764.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Stefan Moro Subject: Re: A gmirror question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:52:47 -0000 On Tuesday 28 October 2008 17:53:20 Stefan Moro wrote: > But if this is the case, how does gmirror know that it should use (in > my example above) ad10 and not ad4 as the additional disk in the > mirror. > Or does gmirror use something else than the /dev entries to address disks?? > > I'm just curious how gmirror does this. It doesn't care about the device name. Geom modules that are loaded into the kernel, register a 'taste' function, with the geom(4) subsystem, that tastes if a provider is something they want to work with. Effectively, this taste function reads the last sector and checks if it has gmirror metadata. The geom system is the 'magician', which basically hands all providers to the loaded modules. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 23:11:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E9A106564A; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D231E8FC0C; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB04AFCF5D; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:11:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:11:39 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49073D1B.2090701@webrz.net> <20081028163236.GC53758@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081028163236.GC53758@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810290011.39540.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , Jos Chrispijn Subject: Re: Security | Kernel message X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:11:42 -0000 On Tuesday 28 October 2008 17:32:36 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:26:03PM +0100, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > A prt of my daily security run: > > > > triton.xxx.xxx.xxx kernel log messages: > > +++ /tmp/security.VnqB8ZT6 2008-10-27 23:53:32.000000000 +0100 > > +em0: link state changed to DOWN > > +em0: link state changed to UP > > +em0: link state changed to DOWN > > +em0: link state changed to UP > > +em0: link state changed to DOWN > > +em0: link state changed to UP > > > > Is there a way of adding the time on every DOWN and UP line? > > No, because the messages are in the kernel log. The kernel itself does > not print timestamps, because that's silly. > > Try doing this: > > 1) Edit /etc/syslog.conf and enable /var/log/all.log, Actually, these end up in /var/log/messages in a vanilla system (*.notice). You can modify /etc/periodic/security/700.kernelmsg, by using: fgrep 'kernel: ' /var/log/messages 2>/dev/null | where it says: dmesg 2>/dev/null Or more prescise: fgrep 'your.host.name kernel: ' /var/log/messages This will give you timestamps with the output. I can't really think of anything that does end up in dmesg and not in /var/log/messages, but I'm sure there are some. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 00:19:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEA21065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69C28FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Kuym4-0006zz-M6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:19:00 -0700 Message-ID: <20218788.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: freebsd777 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: loveis071@nate.com Subject: libexpat is missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:19:02 -0000 Hi there, Under FreeBsd 6.2 version, while I was trying to install Krang software this is an error message below. I set up compat5 and expat2 in /usr/ports to get libexpat. But it is still not working. Does anyone know how to get libexpat? ---------------------- Error ----------------------------- SeaAd# bin/krang_build ATTEMPTING: Mandrake9_2 ATTEMPTING: Fedora9 ATTEMPTING: Debian ATTEMPTING: MacOSX ATTEMPTING: FreeBSD Building for platform 'FreeBSD'. libexpat is missing from your system, Krang could not find it or we couldn't include it. This library is required by Krang. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/libexpat-is-missing-tp20218788p20218788.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 00:23:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B329C1065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC178FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KuyqH-0005C7-Ky for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000 Received: from 93-136-47-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.136.47.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 93-136-47-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:23:04 +0100 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <20def4870810280743v50b32317v3711245fc9110cbe@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig571016A292BA4AB1A50138DF" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-136-47-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) In-Reply-To: <20def4870810280743v50b32317v3711245fc9110cbe@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: VLAN filtering on FreeBSD 7.0 / 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig571016A292BA4AB1A50138DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yony Yossef wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have two questions about VLANs on FreeBSD 6.3/7.0. >=20 > 1. > I'm trying to understand whether HW VLAN filtering can be supported. > Looking at the code I can't find a proper ioctl that will inform the dr= iver > about a vlan creation/destruction. > Is there a way of doing it? If you're asking how to support vlans in FreeBSD, add lines like these to rc.conf: cloned_interfaces=3D"vlan0" ifconfig_bce1=3D"inet 0.0.0.0" ifconfig_vlan0=3D"vlan 250 vlandev bce1" ifconfig_vlan0_alias0=3D"inet 161.53.72.23 netmask 255.255.255.0" This has worked for me in 6.2 and 6.3. Hardware VLAN filtering is supported in both 6.x and 7.x (at least in bce driver; look for VLAN_HWTAGGING flag in ifconfig). > 2. > Second issue - is there way of enabling TSO on vlan interfaces? I've asked that question about a week ago on network developers mailing list and the answer was that it could be done but it's not yet implemented (i.e. using VLANs in any way effectively disables TSO). --------------enig571016A292BA4AB1A50138DF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkHrOkACgkQldnAQVacBch67wCeMVajVubOf6ihTpFW9fmdF3MT QxoAn0rW3tHZISBp1620SZko2AdEQOmO =Bsea -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig571016A292BA4AB1A50138DF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 03:36:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BE31065691 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ED28FC2A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1590659tid.3 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:36:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=JRnShSP0PjDDiJBPkUY0wAUaPhK/z2p912j/UM2jfJ4=; b=t0Iwn8amVWQ48ivN/6RUUh1VG/RuCZP3dWvwxFcJY7XuMM0p8qbE15OaA8MpiyaEs+ 3dD+NZaTmcXAgnLyRXHEIZhM0XNR/vV5I7Fg7BtccBr2SNui5sR3/SgCVo9g9V1fC3W7 +hylQnWO2YzS2rz4rTZqNyFWtRUv9FFxQyBj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=M/VqxWcwlpoOpv0Ai9V1wPbULLSu/XaUfqW5upMrUDo/29A2reGifsDhoEHWLZ7xVs 0/SO02QeHoG/ihgfk0is6wuFrKg2AWn2h9ZGwAmrFwusR25ECZIzTEIo3TfOwfxCSUXM hg7XS972qly+sTJiDaBmZkozaotF0u6EhI8oQ= Received: by 10.110.43.18 with SMTP id q18mr5076619tiq.16.1225250074134; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.17.19 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:14:34 +0800 From: Canhua To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:36:28 -0000 Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install using ports means. Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be install from ports while not able to be added from package system? Am I right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 03:41:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA8A1065678; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BFE8FC20; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081029034133.UNPY15909.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:41:33 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edmwaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 031035373C247A4B; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A17645D; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4907DB6B.8090000@telus.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:41:31 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081028122013.GA49298@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081028122013.GA49298@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:41:34 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick said: >> ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 >> error=40 LBA=134802751 > > Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk? This looks to be like a > classic block/sector failure. I hadn't realized that a bad block would manifest itself with a message about DMA. Seems like such semantics would be a little obscure to most users, apparently including me. > So you're saying that the *exact* same READ_DMA error, at the *exact* > same LBA, is reported on ad4? If so, that's very bizarre. No, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Both instances were on ad6, so far. > Can you please provide the output from the following commands? See end of message. Let me know if you then want more (in- or out-of-band). Having now installed smartmontools, you can see below that I ran it for both ad4 and ad6. Sure enough, ad6 has logged 2 READ DMA errors - does that make this a definitive bad disk then? Should I not be worried about ad4 too? Those Raw_Read_Error_Rate and Seek_Error_Rate numbers should be zero or very close to it, shouldn't they? I don't know how to interpret what I'm seeing in that output, so I'd appreciate any insight. Should I be returning both disks for warranty claims (they're both very recently purchased)? Wojciech Puchar said: > boot from some kind of live CD, then make another mirror (single disk now) > on other drive, then do > > dd if=/dev/ad6s1 of=/dev/mirror/newmirror bs=2k conv=noerror,sync > > i intentionally did bs=2k instead of larger, to minimize amount of lost > data. > > then change your system to boot from newmirror, take out /dev/ad6 and have > it replaced on warranty (or buy new), put new ad6, insert it to the > mirror. I think you're describing a method to help me save as much data from ad6 as possible. Fortunately, this is all about constructing a new system, so there's no data yet to lose. Is there anything I should know about this model of hard disk with regards to being known for problems? Also, is there a good test I can perform to hopefully flush out any problems before I put this thing into service? Carl / K0802647 ######## Additional Information ######## # vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 4 0 irq4: sio0 125724 16 irq19: uhci3 5 0 irq21: uhci1+ 478364 63 irq23: uhci2 ehci1 1 0 cpu0: timer 14517071 1923 irq256: em0 109568 14 cpu1: timer 14514956 1922 Total 29745693 3940 # atacontrol list | grep -v "no device present" ATA channel 0: ATA channel 1: ATA channel 2: Master: ad4 Serial ATA II ATA channel 3: Master: ad6 Serial ATA II ATA channel 4: Master: acd0 Serial ATA v1.0 ATA channel 5: ATA channel 6: ATA channel 7: # atacontrol cap ad4 Protocol Serial ATA II device model ST31000340AS serial number xxxxxxxH firmware revision SD15 cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 268435455 sectors lba48 supported 1953525168 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 65278/0xFEFE automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 254/0xFE # atacontrol cap ad6 Protocol Serial ATA II device model ST31000340AS serial number xxxxxxxA firmware revision SD15 cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 268435455 sectors lba48 supported 1953525168 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 65278/0xFEFE automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 254/0xFE # smartctl -a /dev/ad4 smartctl version 5.38 [i386-portbld-freebsd7.0] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 Device Model: ST31000340AS Serial Number: xxxxxxxH Firmware Version: SD15 User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4 Local Time is: Tue Oct 28 18:07:25 2008 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 650) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 230) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x103b) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 117 099 006 Pre-fail Always - 158643744 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 092 091 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 064 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 2921473 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 499 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 099 000 Old_age Always - 65540 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 071 069 045 Old_age Always - 29 (Lifetime Min/Max 23/31) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 029 040 000 Old_age Always - 29 (0 20 0 0) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 039 019 000 Old_age Always - 158643744 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. # smartctl -a /dev/ad6 smartctl version 5.38 [i386-portbld-freebsd7.0] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 Device Model: ST31000340AS Serial Number: xxxxxxxA Firmware Version: SD15 User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4 Local Time is: Tue Oct 28 18:08:22 2008 PDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 642) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 227) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x103b) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 116 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 106947042 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 092 091 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 2 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 061 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 1376532 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 499 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 1 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2 188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 071 069 045 Old_age Always - 29 (Lifetime Min/Max 23/31) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 029 040 000 Old_age Always - 29 (0 19 0 0) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 038 018 000 Old_age Always - 106947042 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 SMART Error Log Version: 1 ATA Error Count: 2 CR = Command Register [HEX] FR = Features Register [HEX] SC = Sector Count Register [HEX] SN = Sector Number Register [HEX] CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX] CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX] DH = Device/Head Register [HEX] DC = Device Command Register [HEX] ER = Error register [HEX] ST = Status register [HEX] Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes, SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days. Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 475 hours (19 days + 19 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 00 9d ed 08 08 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0808ed9d = 134802845 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 00 3f ed 08 48 00 13d+00:32:54.564 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f ec 08 48 00 13d+00:32:54.563 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f eb 08 48 00 13d+00:32:54.562 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f ea 08 48 00 13d+00:32:54.561 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f e9 08 48 00 13d+00:32:54.560 READ DMA Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 474 hours (19 days + 18 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. After command completion occurred, registers were: ER ST SC SN CL CH DH -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 40 51 00 9d ed 08 08 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0808ed9d = 134802845 Commands leading to the command that caused the error were: CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- -------------------- c8 00 00 3f e9 08 48 00 12d+23:04:28.359 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f 53 06 48 00 12d+23:04:27.202 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f 52 06 48 00 12d+23:04:27.193 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f 51 06 48 00 12d+23:04:27.191 READ DMA c8 00 00 3f 50 06 48 00 12d+23:04:27.191 READ DMA SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. ######## END ######## From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 03:48:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC73C1065676 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AC48FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m9T3muVO033442; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "matt donovan" , "Joachim Rosenfeld" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:50:14 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <28283d910810281339i76a48c23r81498dc8529848c1@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: vlc not decoding certain DVDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:48:58 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of matt donovan > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:39 PM > To: Joachim Rosenfeld > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: vlc not decoding certain DVDs > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Joachim Rosenfeld > wrote: > > > Why is vlc (the CSS library specifically) unable to decode certain > > CDs? Certain foreign film CDs work fine, but others, mostly US-based > > Hollywood films don't. I was under the impression that vlc was able to > > decode everything? I can hear audio on these DVDs, but the video is > > weird blocks of color. > > > > The weird thing is that if I run vlc under WINE, everything works > > fine. The movie plays, but fullscreen doesn't work and the interface > > is really horrible on vlc/wine. > > > > Any solutions on how to fix this? > > > > I am running 7.0-RELEASE on an x86 box. > > > > All ports are up to date as of 3 days ago. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > umm VLC hasn't been able to decode everything for quite a long > time install > libdvdcss I have found personally that the movie studios have been going all out recently in various copy protection standards that break the DVD standard but are still playable on most of the hardware DVD players out there. As a result I've had to resort in some cases to running varous Windows versions of DVD rippers to get the movies into video files and off the DVD. Your going to have to experiment since this is also dependent on the DVD drive itself. Once you get the DVD ripped to a video file it's generally no problem to play it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 04:34:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB06106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487298FC2D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YTpw1a0020bG4ec57UaBrs; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:34:11 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YUaX1a0092P6wsM3PUaXXc; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:34:31 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=xThvkv2QsyLXb20wr_MA:9 a=_bD2a-seEmzGcdZ98RWn08DaKXMA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DDE15C9419; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:34:30 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Canhua Message-ID: <20081029043430.GB66773@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:34:36 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote: > Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. > I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: > Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ > FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. > Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install > using ports means. > > Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be > install from ports while not able to be added from package system? > Am I right? Correct -- not every port has a package. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 05:07:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8480E106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592CC8FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.247]) by bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:07:25 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:07:25 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:07:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: dreameration@gmail.com Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:07:20 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 05:07:25.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B6DFCE0:01C93984] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:07:25 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote: >>Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. >>I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: >>Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ >>FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: >>File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> >>although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. >>Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install >>using ports means. >> >>Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be >>install from ports while not able to be added from package system? >>Am I right? > >Correct -- not every port has a package. > ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does. By running "portinstall -P pkgname", it will install a port and dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from source. portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes. -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 07:11:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88861065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.moro@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8883F8FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stefan.moro@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so1698713wag.27 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:11:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZFD/NQ0J+QjFY3Z+N+6V+cm5ZoXvdrVapP+9MfBBZYM=; b=Fua/r5/3TnsJnIelKzGgrkfnWG6UG4kZaa9QLXfCDh4jxh2VzPMnLPV4cBymFLd/zb UbgoCeGM4mabN1gCMq1j2JgOoh3IfTKxQNp4YJkLDssENl92zBuE/Des0CdgsJivi2lm llbKXndTVEYE2K7AB2SGrX0RRB8uqWjy8+/wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Osn7t2g6AN3XTzPTJXLId7njMtynAdNsILjRxHUZgMMEebdmka3UMd5eYXUwcaoMRq 8YRqkPeygHeWxwyeTJJrUPfH0ARYi1kTlENWPmO8UmZVIKzP8VHyuhRAnFC+qfU43EKQ HD4KkJORiGAWzy4ZMpm3yroVraZ0/tSU4u80w= Received: by 10.114.193.1 with SMTP id q1mr7008967waf.70.1225264313192; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.160.6 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2961fef0810290011i5e8a6d3cj900444b27a3c6d9e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:11:53 +0100 From: "Stefan Moro" To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200810282352.44764.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2961fef0810280953g48b5ea28y8aebf58bd8e8afb7@mail.gmail.com> <200810282352.44764.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A gmirror question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:11:53 -0000 Ok, that explains it. Thanks for the quick answers! BR Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 07:41:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02274106568D; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C368FC25; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 07:41:17 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 017F45ECA; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:40:37 +0000 (GMT) To: Mikhail Teterin References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <86vdvcobbg.fsf@nowhere.org> <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday: Wednesday of the Thirtieth Week of Ordinary Time, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:40:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4907552B.1070504@aldan.algebra.com> (Mikhail Teterin's message of "Tue\, 28 Oct 2008 14\:08\:43 -0400") Message-ID: <86skqfc0i2.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: nox@FreeBSD.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:20 -0000 Mikhail Teterin writes: > Sent by Glyn Millington: >> My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far >> it works flawlessly for me. >> > This has two problems: > > 1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy. No it doesn't. The MS version of Firefox is running here under Wine with no problems and definitely no Windows. Why do you think it needs a Windows install? > 2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is > what I'm using. Ah well, there you have me! atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 07:54:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4691065676 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813B38FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3034748wfg.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:54:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=x312o5yVWDM/OF7EJarbspEKVUt1t9yYavInF9RXbvU=; b=QKyrw7vupZpgaGAGdQPEVRkc+o7pxQZvCwu2KPaaNuhP+xCoMBmiPFU5xjwTJkVdgc DFNKo4LgEjS9qjQZzNY2zs/PTUQo2RW5xLEJpyklwWyt/ofuWVBXcXB7dGxryR0dFCKt e8i04TEUUq/u4PcMY50gjjp2qixbHIPrRZtQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=f1SGfO5zAQAQNZ1vRUlaiK2hoGPWX3yoaTJ3I9jLt/4kUcSvzxMZXLeBetIazIP+K8 dIu1+BPm6yCq4tjZoIYH0peGJV/cqjC0s1mXR/co3hYqehCubbui38gqWlUhdWb1E63F 41cqfjfgrKSclLXr1Y8ZodXKVW/fXKfuuJ8NQ= Received: by 10.142.231.7 with SMTP id d7mr3857877wfh.137.1225265620130; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:33:40 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:54:28 -0000 hi to all the list, i am trying to install ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from the ports system. The problem seems to be that i can't complete succesfully the tests of imagemagick. In particular i fail in all the Magick++ tests [snip] FAIL: Magick++/tests/exceptions.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/appendImages.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/attributes.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/averageImages.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/coalesceImages.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/coderInfo.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/colorHistogram.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/color.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/montageImages.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/morphImages.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/readWriteBlob.sh FAIL: Magick++/tests/readWriteImages.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/analyze.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/button.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/demo.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/flip.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/gravity.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/piddle.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/shapes.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_bessel.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_blackman.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_box.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_catrom.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_cubic.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_gaussian.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_hamming.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_hanning.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_hermite.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_lanczos.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_mitchell.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_point.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_quadratic.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_sample.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_scale.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_sinc.sh FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_triangle.sh [snip] =========================================== 36 of 699 tests failed Please report to http://www.imagemagick.org =========================================== *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.4. *** Error code 1 What i've tried so far: * i tried to install using portugrade -P -N ImageMagick and then by using cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/ && make install clean * updated the ports * installed or updated to the last version all the tools listed from freshports.org as "Required To Build" or "Required To Run" Required To Build: lang/perl5.8, devel/pkg-config, print/ghostscript8-nox11 Required To Run: lang/perl5.8, devel/pkg-config, print/ghostscript8-nox11 * finally i updated to libtool-1.5.26 because in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.4/Magick++/tests/attributes.sh in the comments is mentioned that libtool is needed... Any ideas will be great! even if they are just directions for where to look from here...because i am out of ideas.. regards, nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:08:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316751065674; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53D08FC1A; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.60]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:08:41 -0700 From: "FBSD1" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:09:23 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 08:08:41.0457 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E2A8610:01C9399D] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:08:53 -0000 It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to the package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its being mis-managed. An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so port/pkg management staff can review first and them populate the production package server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:33:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76EC1065679 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E3E8FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.60]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:16:27 -0700 From: "FBSD1" To: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:17:09 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <86skqfc0i2.fsf@nowhere.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 08:16:27.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3CA2600:01C9399E] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:33:37 -0000 Mikhail Teterin writes: > Sent by Glyn Millington: >> My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far >> it works flawlessly for me. >> > This has two problems: > > 1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy. No it doesn't. The MS version of Firefox is running here under Wine with no problems and definitely no Windows. Why do you think it needs a Windows install? > 2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is > what I'm using. Ah well, there you have me! Glyn _______________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Glyn Millington Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:41 PM To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: nox@FreeBSD.org; Danielisz Laszlo; questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD What is not clear is do you run wine/firefox from the command line or from within KDE or gnome? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:40:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A396106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E458FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv6bc-0002T6-Ll for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:47 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv6bb-0002EX-P9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:44 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9T8egKT079001 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:42 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9T8egbe079000 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:42 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:42 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029084042.GA78965@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:48 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 09:33:40AM +0200, Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > hi to all the list, > > i am trying to install ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from the ports system. > The problem seems to be that i can't complete succesfully the tests of > imagemagick. In particular i fail in all the Magick++ tests > > [snip] > > FAIL: Magick++/tests/exceptions.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/appendImages.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/attributes.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/averageImages.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/coalesceImages.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/coderInfo.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/colorHistogram.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/color.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/montageImages.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/morphImages.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/readWriteBlob.sh > FAIL: Magick++/tests/readWriteImages.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/analyze.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/button.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/demo.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/flip.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/gravity.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/piddle.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/shapes.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_bessel.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_blackman.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_box.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_catrom.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_cubic.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_gaussian.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_hamming.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_hanning.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_hermite.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_lanczos.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_mitchell.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_point.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_quadratic.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_sample.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_scale.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_sinc.sh > FAIL: Magick++/demo/zoom_triangle.sh > > [snip] > > =========================================== > 36 of 699 tests failed > Please report to http://www.imagemagick.org > =========================================== > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.4. > *** Error code 1 > > > > > What i've tried so far: > > * i tried to install using > portugrade -P -N ImageMagick and then by using > cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/ && make install clean > * updated the ports > * installed or updated to the last version all the tools listed from > freshports.org as "Required To Build" or "Required To Run" > Required To Build: lang/perl5.8, devel/pkg-config, > print/ghostscript8-nox11 > Required To Run: lang/perl5.8, devel/pkg-config, print/ghostscript8-nox11 > * finally i updated to libtool-1.5.26 because in > /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.4/Magick++/tests/attributes.sh > in the comments is mentioned that libtool is needed... > > Any ideas will be great! even if they are just directions for where to > look from here...because i am out of ideas.. what platform and FBSD version? did you build with perl support? mail output of `make showconfig'. YOu shouldn't need to build each port manually. If you upgrade ImageMagick with portupgrade or portmaster, all dependencies would have been checked, and all updates of ports on which IM depends would have been performed. I've passed all tests on i386 and all but 2 tests on alpha. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:46:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496B7106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39C28FC28 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 08:45:58 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A7B335F04; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:45:18 +0000 (GMT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday: Wednesday of the Thirtieth Week of Ordinary Time, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:45:18 +0000 Message-ID: <86ljw7okm9.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Calling FBSD1 - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:46:00 -0000 Hi there FBSD1 I note that your system has twice sent a copy of my post, unaltered, in the thread "Flash 9,10 FreeBSD" to the freebsd-questions list! Is there something wrong ? atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:46:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7C2106567C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699998FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:58141 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv6hL-0002eT-4d for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:46:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 42387 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 09:46:37 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 09:46:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 68855 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Oct 2008 09:46:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:46:37 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: FBSD1 Message-ID: <20081029084637.GA68812@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Kv6hL-0002eT-4d. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Kv6hL-0002eT-4d 43c709805b73e33da2e47afaa85b484a Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:46:41 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the > source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. > Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to the > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their > changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its > being mis-managed. It is not port managers who create or upload packages. Most of them do not even have access to the package server. The downloadable packages are built and uploaded automatically by a cluster of servers that do little else. If a particular port does not have a corresponding package it is generally not due to laxness on anybodys part. The main reasons why a port might not have corresponding package are: 1) The port has just been created and the package hasn't had time to built yet. Normally a very temporary situation. 2) Legal restrictions. There are several ports where it is simply not legal for the FreeBSD project to distribute the corresponding binary packages. 3) The port is currently broken and cannot be built. (This is of course a bug which should be fixed as soon as possible. For ports without a maintainer that might take a while.) 4) One or more of the dependencies of the package is not available as a package. (If port A depends on port B, and there does not exist a package for B (for any of the reasons listed here) there will not be a package of A either. > > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so port/pkg > management staff can review first and them populate the production package > server. All the packages that can be built and distributed are already being built and uploaded. Allowing users to upload packages would not help. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:52:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB101065672; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036BA8FC17; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.60]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:52:44 -0700 From: "joeb" To: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:26 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 08:52:44.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[B56B4B50:01C939A3] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:52:55 -0000 On Wed, October 29, 2008 9:09 am, FBSD1 wrote: > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the > source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. > Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to > the > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their > changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its > being mis-managed. > > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so > port/pkg > management staff can review first and them populate the production package > server. > There is a certain guideline in place which committers follow. If you have constructive feedback surely someone will listen to it. Spitting your frustration is not likely to help. Do note that we have a lot of maintainers which try to satify each and everyone of us, sending messages like this is not going to help *you*. I would have a strong opinion -against- people uploading towarsd the FTP server directly. That will not be done. . To give you a better understanding; We have a ports-cluster which builds packages and uploads them to the appropriate place on the FTP servers, sometimes that takes a little to become available, donate more facilities so that we can do that better. Also note that QAT (a ports tinderbox) runs periodically to make sure every thing is just fine! Thanks, Remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News -----Original Message----- From: Remko Lodder [mailto:remko@elvandar.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:17 PM To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG; ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. Well if you have this cluster build process why have some ports never been built all the way back to release 5.0 like kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8. That is almost 3 years of waiting to get in the cluster build process. I am grateful to the maintainers for the great job they do, but completing the job by building the package is such a small additional task in light of they already have everything in place to build the package. Posting a email to ports@freebsd.org or posting a bug report about package missing does not get the missing package built. Its just considered as background noise. I have brought this problem to light in past years and new releases keep coming out with the same packages missing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:00:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D445A1065679; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (websrv01.jr-hosting.nl [78.47.69.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BE48FC14; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=galain.elvandar.org) by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv6EG-0001ih-Vk; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:16:36 +0100 Received: from 145.7.91.133 (SquirrelMail authenticated user remko) by galain.elvandar.org with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:16:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:16:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Remko Lodder" To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@elvandar.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:00:04 -0000 On Wed, October 29, 2008 9:09 am, FBSD1 wrote: > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the > source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. > Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to > the > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their > changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its > being mis-managed. > > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so > port/pkg > management staff can review first and them populate the production package > server. > There is a certain guideline in place which committers follow. If you have constructive feedback surely someone will listen to it. Spitting your frustration is not likely to help. Do note that we have a lot of maintainers which try to satify each and everyone of us, sending messages like this is not going to help *you*. I would have a strong opinion -against- people uploading towarsd the FTP server directly. That will not be done. . To give you a better understanding; We have a ports-cluster which builds packages and uploads them to the appropriate place on the FTP servers, sometimes that takes a little to become available, donate more facilities so that we can do that better. Also note that QAT (a ports tinderbox) runs periodically to make sure every thing is just fine! Thanks, Remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:00:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1481065690; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F8D8FC2B; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20081029090022.LVJM6654.priv-edmwes25.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net>; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:00:22 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edmwaa07.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id E1701537383E8E62; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B189645D; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49082625.7080804@telus.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:00:21 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081028122013.GA49298@icarus.home.lan> <4907DB6B.8090000@telus.net> <20081029043314.GA66773@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081029043314.GA66773@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:00:23 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Seagate chooses to encode some raw data for some SMART attributes in a > custom format. The format is not publicly documented. This is why you > have to go off of the adjusted values shown in VALUE/WORST/THRESH. > "How am I supposed to know all of this?!" You aren't -- it comes with > experience. And yet my failing drive's VALUE numbers are still all above their THRESH values, despite it being bad enough to cripple the system. One might argue those threshold values leave something to be desired. >> Is there anything I should know about this model of hard disk with >> regards to being known for problems? Also, is there a good test I can >> perform to hopefully flush out any problems before I put this thing into >> service? > > I'm confused: what gives you the impression there's a problem with > *this model* of hard disk? I've seen no evidence presented that > indicates such. What makes you ask that question? I don't have such an impression, thus far. In fact, Seagate drives have always been good to me prior to this. It's only a precautionary question because it's better to ask now than after I've committed a lot of real data and time to it and put it all into service. > Let's take a look at the SMART data. > >> # smartctl -a /dev/ad4 >> >> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE ... >> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 ... > > To get an update on Attribute 198, you'd need to run a short offline > test ("smartctl -t short /dev/ad4"). You can safely do this while > the disk is in use; don't let the word "offline" make you think the > disk disappears. You can watch the status using smartctl -a, and > once its finished, you can compare the old value to the new. I'm > willing to bet it remains zero. I ran that test on both drives. ad6 failed immediately at 90% with a "read failure" - not surprising. ad4 completed without error and no change in it's values, just as you predicted. >> # smartctl -a /dev/ad6 >> >> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE ... >> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 2 ... >> 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 1 ... >> 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2 ... >> 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2 >> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2 ... > > And here we see the core of the problem. :-) > Advice is simple: replace this hard disk. > Hope this helps. It definitely did, Jeremy. Your explanations were most helpful. Thanks! Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:01:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951451065697; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C67A8FC19; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.60]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:01:31 -0700 From: "joeb" To: "Erik Trulsson" Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:02:14 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20081029084637.GA68812@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 09:01:31.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFC93310:01C939A4] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:01:42 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:ertr1013@student.uu.se] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:47 PM To: FBSD1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG; ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the > source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. > Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to the > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their > changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its > being mis-managed. It is not port managers who create or upload packages. Most of them do not even have access to the package server. The downloadable packages are built and uploaded automatically by a cluster of servers that do little else. If a particular port does not have a corresponding package it is generally not due to laxness on anybodys part. The main reasons why a port might not have corresponding package are: 1) The port has just been created and the package hasn't had time to built yet. Normally a very temporary situation. 2) Legal restrictions. There are several ports where it is simply not legal for the FreeBSD project to distribute the corresponding binary packages. 3) The port is currently broken and cannot be built. (This is of course a bug which should be fixed as soon as possible. For ports without a maintainer that might take a while.) 4) One or more of the dependencies of the package is not available as a package. (If port A depends on port B, and there does not exist a package for B (for any of the reasons listed here) there will not be a package of A either. > > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so port/pkg > management staff can review first and them populate the production package > server. All the packages that can be built and distributed are already being built and uploaded. Allowing users to upload packages would not help. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se -----Original Message----- From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:ertr1013@student.uu.se] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:47 PM To: FBSD1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG; ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. How does kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8 or php5-gd or pdflib fit into those reasons you gave? These all have ports but no package for many releases of Freebsd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:07:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1E1065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF368FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9T979mR007718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:07:10 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9T97978028839; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:07:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9T9791n028838; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:07:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:07:08 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: FBSD1 Message-ID: <20081029090708.GP1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QDIl5R72YNOeCxaP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:07:15 -0000 --QDIl5R72YNOeCxaP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Oct-29 16:09:23 +0800, FBSD1 wrote: >It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for >real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the >source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. I'm not sure what you mean by "install the port for real". A port maintainer is responsible for updating his/her ports and verifying that they work. This presumably includes building and installing the port. >Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload >to the package server. This isn't true for a whole variety of reasons. > Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their >changes without creating the required package? Because packages aren't "required" and creation of packages is nothing to do with ports maintainers. =20 > This is just lax management >on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. I suggest you do a bit more reading and a bit less pontificating. > Missing >packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its >being mis-managed. Not all ports have packages for a variety of reasons and there is no requirement that every port has packages for every supported version of FreeBSD. Maybe you need to learn how to "cd /usr/ports/... && make install" --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --QDIl5R72YNOeCxaP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIJ7wACgkQ/opHv/APuIdYmgCfc3TMrjI0kBh28K9Zfb7JYUqu UY0An2J/xGE5e4lA0twnhyxSJHM/voZh =ziKu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QDIl5R72YNOeCxaP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:09:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A2D106568C; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (websrv01.jr-hosting.nl [78.47.69.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD2D8FC21; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=galain.elvandar.org) by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv73Y-0002Ds-48; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:09:36 +0100 Received: from 145.7.91.133 (SquirrelMail authenticated user remko) by galain.elvandar.org with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:09:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:09:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Remko Lodder" To: joeb@a1poweruser.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@elvandar.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:09:37 -0000 On Wed, October 29, 2008 9:53 am, joeb wrote: > On Wed, October 29, 2008 9:09 am, FBSD1 wrote: >> It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for >> real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the >> source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. >> Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to >> the >> package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their >> changes without creating the required package? This is just lax >> management >> on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing >> packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like >> its >> being mis-managed. >> >> An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload >> missing >> packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so >> port/pkg >> management staff can review first and them populate the production >> package >> server. >> > > There is a certain guideline in place which committers follow. If you have > constructive feedback surely someone will listen to it. Spitting your > frustration is not likely to help. Do note that we have a lot of > maintainers which try to satify each and everyone of us, sending messages > like this is not going to help *you*. > > I would have a strong opinion -against- people uploading towarsd the FTP > server directly. That will not be done. . > > To give you a better understanding; We have a ports-cluster which builds > packages and uploads them to the appropriate place on the FTP servers, > sometimes that takes a little to become available, donate more facilities > so that we can do that better. Also note that QAT (a ports tinderbox) runs > periodically to make sure every thing is just fine! > > Thanks, > Remko > > -- > /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org > \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet > X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | > / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Remko Lodder [mailto:remko@elvandar.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:17 PM > To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG; ports@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. > > > Well if you have this cluster build process why have some ports never been > built all the way back to release 5.0 like kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8. That > is > almost 3 years of waiting to get in the cluster build process. There might be reasons for packages not being built, sometimes it's an license issue, sometimes the package does not build etc. It's not something that you can demand that you need a package that it gets there. There is more to it then just build the freaking thing ;-) > I am > grateful > to the maintainers for the great job they do, but completing the job by > building the package is such a small additional task in light of they > already have everything in place to build the package. It's not, we have guidelines that we have to follow in order to keep things managable. > Posting a email to ports@freebsd.org or posting a bug report about package > missing does not get the missing package built. Its just considered as > background noise. I have brought this problem to light in past years and > new > releases keep coming out with the same packages missing. Then apparantly there is no need for your idea and it will not get implemented. Stating that a package is missing, soit, we build packages all the time and as said there are reasons for some ports not being build into packages etc. First investigate that before complaining this loud. We have been in this proces before with you (Bob was your name back then if I remember correctly). Thnx, Remko > > > > > > -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:23:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828B31065686 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0878FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 09:23:33 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5EAF55ECA; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:22:54 +0000 (GMT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86ljw7okm9.fsf@nowhere.org> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday: Wednesday of the Thirtieth Week of Ordinary Time, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:22:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <86ljw7okm9.fsf@nowhere.org> (Glyn Millington's message of "Wed\, 29 Oct 2008 08\:45\:18 +0000") Message-ID: <863aifoivl.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Calling FBSD1 - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:23:35 -0000 Glyn Millington writes: > Hi there FBSD1 > > I note that your system has twice sent a copy of my post, unaltered, in > the thread "Flash 9,10 FreeBSD" to the freebsd-questions list! > > Is there something wrong ? Apologies Joeb, I see now that you did in fact append a question. But why two copies? atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:25:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6671065678 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D018FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:25:18 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m9T9PGX6003194; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:25:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:25:16 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 09:25:18.0946 (UTC) FILETIME=[427BAC20:01C939A8] Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: tangoGPS && FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:21 -0000 Hello, Is anybody aware of a port of tangoGPS http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/About to FreeBSD 7.0? It runs it in my Linux based cellphone Openmoko FreeRunner and it would be nice to have it as well in my eeePC (just for having better capacity for cached maps of OpenStreetMap and a bigger display). What kind of USB based GPS devices could be used in this eeePC with FreeBSD 7.0? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:30:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08C3106567B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AECF8FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 09:30:07 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3016D5ECA; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:29:28 +0000 (GMT) To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com References: Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday: Wednesday of the Thirtieth Week of Ordinary Time, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:29:28 +0000 In-Reply-To: (fbsd1@a1poweruser.com's message of "Wed\, 29 Oct 2008 16\:17\:09 +0800") Message-ID: <86y707n407.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:08 -0000 "FBSD1" writes: > Mikhail Teterin writes: > >> Sent by Glyn Millington: >>> My solution was to install Wine and run the MS port of Firefox. So far >>> it works flawlessly for me. >>> >> This has two problems: >> >> 1. It requires a (licensed) Windows install handy. > > No it doesn't. The MS version of Firefox is running here under Wine with > no problems and definitely no Windows. Why do you think it needs a > Windows install? > > >> 2. The solution is only suitable for i386 -- not for amd64, which is >> what I'm using. > > Ah well, there you have me! > > Glyn > _______________________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Glyn Millington > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:41 PM > To: Mikhail Teterin > Cc: nox@FreeBSD.org; Danielisz Laszlo; questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD > > What is not clear is do you run wine/firefox from the command line or from > within KDE or gnome? An answer to this question and an apology for missing the question the first time. Neither. I use good old Fvwm, but actually launch MS Firefox from the Rox filer. I was surprised at how easy this was to set up. I don't say it is right or clever, but it does work, and I'm not so very interested in Flash that I want to spend ages fiddling to make it work in the other ways that have been suggested. I'm getting older so like to pick my fights with care! atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:40:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8DE106567E; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511A08FC25; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19448AFCF5B; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:40:02 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:38:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49060AE0.3000301@optiksecurite.com> <20081027200253.GA29814@icarus.home.lan> <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> In-Reply-To: <49072561.90904@optiksecurite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810291038.35167.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Francis =?iso-8859-1?q?Dub=E9?= , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:40:03 -0000 On Tuesday 28 October 2008 15:44:49 Francis Dub=E9 wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick a =E9crit : > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56:30PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM, FreeBSD wrote: > >>>> You need to keep your MaxClients setting limited to what your system > >>>> can run under high load; generally the amount of system memory is the > >>>> governing factor. [1] If you set your MaxClients higher than that, > >>>> your system will start swapping under the load and once you start > >>>> hitting VM, it's game over: your throughput will plummet and clients > >>>> will start getting lots of broken connections, just as you describe. > >>> > >>> According to top, we have about 2G of Inactive RAM with 1,5G Active > >>> (4G total RAM with amd64). Swapping is not a problem in this case. > >> > >> With 4GB of RAM, you're less likely to run into issues, but the most > >> relevant numbers would be the Swap: line in top under high load, or the > >> output of "vmstat 1" / "vmstat -s". > > We're monitoring our swap with cacti, and we've never been swapping even > during high load because we dont let apache spawn enough process to do so. > > >> It would also be helpful to know what your httpd's are looking like in > >> terms of size, and what your content is like. For Apache serving most= ly > >> static content and not including mod_perl, mod_php, etc, you tend to > >> have 5-10MB processes and much of that is shared, so you might well be > >> able to run 400+ httpd children. On the other hand, as soon as you pu= ll > >> in the dynamic language modules like perl or PHP, you end up with much > >> larger process sizes (20 - 40 MB) and much more of their memory usage = is > >> per-process rather than shared, so even with 4GB you probably won't be > >> able to run more than 100-150 children before swapping. > > Here's an example of top's output regarding our httpd process : > 54326 apache 1 96 0 156M 13108K select 1 0:00 0.15% httpd > 54952 apache 1 96 0 156M 12684K select 1 0:00 0.10% httpd > 52343 apache 1 4 0 155M 12280K select 0 0:01 0.10% httpd > > Most of our page are in HTML with a LOT of images. Few PHP pages, very > light PHP processing. Then your best bet is to properly set up mod_expires for the images. More t= hen=20 anything else that will reduce the load on your server. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_expires.html#expiresbytype The better solution involves recoding your site to serve images from a=20 different webserver (can be the same machine, simply use a very light jail)= =2E=20 This installation only loads mod_expires and mod_headers and serves images= =20 only. I would do this regardless, for two reasons: 1) You will almost certainly get rid of PMAP_SHPGPERPROC on the document=20 server 2) You will more easily detect bottlenecks in scripts, because the problem = is=20 not aggrevated/masked by the image serving. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:54:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CF31065686 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8933E8FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:57556 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv7kf-00040M-6e for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:54:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 42804 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 10:54:06 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 10:54:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 77892 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Oct 2008 10:54:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:54:06 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: joeb Message-ID: <20081029095406.GA69223@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20081029084637.GA68812@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Kv7kf-00040M-6e. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Kv7kf-00040M-6e f535fbe524825376755b2f9ca2df335f Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:54:11 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:02:14PM +0800, joeb wrote: > How does kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8 or php5-gd or pdflib fit into those > reasons you gave? > These all have ports but no package for many releases of Freebsd. > For print/pdflib it is legal restrictions. (The Makefile says "RESTRICTED= many odd restrictions on usage and distribution") As for graphics/php5-gd and net-im/kopete ports, they both seem to be available as pre-built packages so I am not sure what problem you are having with them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:ertr1013@student.uu.se] > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:47 PM > To: FBSD1 > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG; ports@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: > > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for > > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the > > source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. > > Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to > the > > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their > > changes without creating the required package? This is just lax management > > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing > > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its > > being mis-managed. > > It is not port managers who create or upload packages. Most of them do not > even have access to the package server. > The downloadable packages are built and uploaded automatically by a cluster > of servers that do little else. > > If a particular port does not have a corresponding package it is generally > not due to laxness on anybodys part. > > The main reasons why a port might not have corresponding package are: > > 1) The port has just been created and the package hasn't had time to built > yet. Normally a very temporary situation. > > 2) Legal restrictions. There are several ports where it is simply not legal > for the FreeBSD project to distribute the corresponding binary packages. > > 3) The port is currently broken and cannot be built. (This is of course a > bug which should be fixed as soon as possible. For ports without a > maintainer that might take a while.) > > 4) One or more of the dependencies of the package is not available as a > package. (If port A depends on port B, and there does not exist a > package for B (for any of the reasons listed here) there will not be > a package of A either. > > > > > > > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so > port/pkg > > management staff can review first and them populate the production package > > server. > > All the packages that can be built and distributed are already being built > and uploaded. Allowing users to upload packages would not help. > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 09:55:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8127106567D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFF008FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 11712 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 09:55:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.166.240) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 09:55:13 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B44017077; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:55:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:55:11 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: joeb Message-ID: <20081029095511.GA76242@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:55:17 -0000 On Wed 2008-10-29 16:53:26 UTC+0800, joeb (joeb@a1poweruser.com) wrote: > Well if you have this cluster build process why have some ports never been > built all the way back to release 5.0 like kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8. That is > almost 3 years of waiting to get in the cluster build process. You need to understand that the FreeBSD project by its nature is primarily source-code driven. Making packages available (of any port) is of very low priority in comparison to the rest of the system (testing, documentation, etc). Demanding that the FreeBSD volunteers build a package just because you want to use it is a bit unfair, particularly when you can make one yourself without much trouble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 10:04:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4491065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE148FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YZzP1a0010b6N64A6a4ggA; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:04:40 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ya4f1a0012P6wsM8Pa4fMv; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:04:39 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xfgAq_I20MYA:10 a=6g13V3AkWZwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=-sc8AqO9mAsPrA1F_oYA:9 a=mfXcWpJ_-3vfIvdZZzMA:7 a=FevcdIOOxWUqKzuO7oWDxSxv24UA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 077E1C9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:04:39 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Carl Message-ID: <20081029100439.GA73714@icarus.home.lan> References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081028122013.GA49298@icarus.home.lan> <4907DB6B.8090000@telus.net> <20081029043314.GA66773@icarus.home.lan> <49082625.7080804@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49082625.7080804@telus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:04:40 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:00:21AM -0700, Carl wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> Seagate chooses to encode some raw data for some SMART attributes in a >> custom format. The format is not publicly documented. This is why you >> have to go off of the adjusted values shown in VALUE/WORST/THRESH. >> "How am I supposed to know all of this?!" You aren't -- it comes with >> experience. > > And yet my failing drive's VALUE numbers are still all above their > THRESH values, despite it being bad enough to cripple the system. One > might argue those threshold values leave something to be desired. I'd urge you to file complaint(s) with drive manufacturers, as they're the ones who decide the values. Thresholds are not defined per the ATA-ATAPI specification, so technically they can pick whatever value they want. This is exactly why you'll encounter people screaming "SMART is worthless, the drive is already dead by the time the overall SMART health check fails!" If you go this route, please CC me, as I'd be quite to see what manufacturers have to say. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. 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ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:11:53 -0000 On 10/29/08, FBSD1 wrote: > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the > source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. Port maintainers usually verify that an updated port will build and work correctly with their currently installed ports. > Creating the package after this is just one command and a ftp upload to the > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to apply their > changes without creating the required package? So you are advocating that port maintainers have to create packages for all the supported FreeBSD architecture's (amd64, arm, i386, ia64, mips, pc98, powerpc, sparc64, sun4v). That would be 9 packages needing to be created at the time the port maintainer submits the upgrade PR. We have the package cluster to automate these builds. > This is just lax management > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the changes. Missing > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD look like its > being mis-managed. > Some packages have to remain missing due to their license restricting redistribution of the compiled softare. This can cause other ports that don't have a restrictive license to fail building because one/more of it's dependencies has this restrictive license. > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp server so port/pkg > management staff can review first and them populate the production package > server. > This solution won't work, if the user has custom compile flags and/or builds the port with non-default options defined in /etc/make.conf or using 'make config'. The next user who downloads the port might get a package that doesn't function the same as the previous version. The package may not even work on that users computer (i.e. package compiled for k8 processor installed on a pentium4 system). The best solution to find out why a package is not being built for a port is to check it's Makefile, and the Makefiles of it's dependencies. Also looking at http://portsmon.freebsd.org/ to find out why a port has failed to build a package. If you can't find a reason for why the package failed to build, then send a message to the maintainers, and the ports list to have some one look into the problem. It could be as simple as forgetting to add the ports subdirectory to the category Makefile (i.e www/Makefile). Scot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 10:12:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EB810656E0 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9588FC23 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1729224tid.3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wRl48CdPWQm+BbvRrFvBNvGfXlX17/iHd+8r+bSgii4=; b=uLIaQobty9+gmm0xLEOX5xLbwpHqS5bxNJdWOvXA/sFHBMh0VMfbYsGGfpjNjGFGLM URPnU3VfHEB+yWNdtMaqSN07gKpuEtqlcYdCfZbzWTRsKwwphbEdg7RgtMqty/G57yTB ELtNABmCXKO6DoTs3gSfG6AJ2ccmg7DSKOXXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WXsEBGJ3r9Gbt13GauD13S7aEMsrz6ciHOOYkT8g0Met1J3BExpjY3VX0ZusbLWd9n c+L6UKSPsDsq378BpLZq5g1EMxCmkPaR/3vFPYdNr2HhkhbaRdKNXpY4uYo0p4cPp64d Jo1Y+WoOCIpaBJGzwnIjID+0Echm9gIx5KPrU= Received: by 10.110.37.3 with SMTP id k3mr5615306tik.36.1225275172119; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.17.19 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:12:52 +0800 From: Canhua To: "Steven Susbauer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:12:53 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steven Susbauer wrote: > ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and > ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does. > By running "portinstall -P pkgname", it will install a port and > dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from > source. > > portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help > with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes. > > -Steve> I tried portinstall, although dependecies are install with port sources still. It take me a whole afternoon to portinstall math/py-neworkx, and it still doesn't complete as yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 11:10:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7071065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) Received: from ehlo.cat.pdx.edu (unknown [IPv6:2610:10:20:208:2e0:81ff:fe5d:b35f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7065B8FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) Received: from nemo.ece.pdx.edu (root@nemo.ece.pdx.edu [131.252.209.162]) by ehlo.cat.pdx.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id m9TBAYF1014159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:34 -0700 Received: from nemo.ece.pdx.edu (tait@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nemo.ece.pdx.edu (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9TBAXsR011941 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tait@localhost) by nemo.ece.pdx.edu (8.13.6/8.12.6/Submit) id m9TBAXLt011940 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nemo.ece.pdx.edu: tait set sender to freebsd@t41t.com using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:33 -0700 From: freebsd@t41t.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> References: <20081029095511.GA76242@ozzmosis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081029095511.GA76242@ozzmosis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ehlo.cat.pdx.edu [131.252.208.106]); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ehlo.cat.pdx.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/8534/Wed Oct 29 00:34:40 2008 on ehlo.cat.pdx.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:10:38 -0000 andrew clarke said (on 2008/10/29): > You need to understand that the FreeBSD project by its nature is > primarily source-code driven. Making packages available (of any port) > is of very low priority in comparison to the rest of the system > (testing, documentation, etc). Demanding that the FreeBSD volunteers > build a package just because you want to use it is a bit unfair, > particularly when you can make one yourself without much trouble. I'm not sure I got all the emails in this thread... maybe some just haven't arrived yet. Anyway... I, for one, depend on packages. It literally takes days to build something like Firefox on my (admittedly old) computer. I'm surprised that package creation is such a low priority. Are there so few people running FreeBSD on old hardware? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 11:17:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F42106567B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3548FC29 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:17:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1277129nfh.33 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4CbBWtb8Uk/0P56ebReirUkwWHFZ8/MmTY+w+3O6N6k=; b=xQPi6zqdzUSMR3x1y9u+tI8nTN86xC8GlkfX5lnkOTiIO80ACfPTzje16LEPWYpmx0 k6OKXAInHtg+GXfQ1kVNnpqkN/yqLVW8n0iBZ53jKnLiiGShzi1+ZEy+gmkKVNEip0WG ARmIS9y1MkYyhvcFRB1WtD0vT6exPrr+RWdJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M2rRJEHilMNxIIdNO02sEodAPnVZwpywhkA0WWkARuYy4S7D8BkBwASQgSPT8jdnB2 NNcZxc+kUY3Q/UMWIi6WfKFRWtFWct7Nth5VUxRxQDc4hlhvPMJvLAW7se3w4N1HyO9J mBuEd/nDhiP0SCuL+cZHS0oS9PDMCI+5ujz/M= Received: by 10.210.26.14 with SMTP id 14mr5696517ebz.106.1225279046312; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-284968.home.otenet.gr [85.73.160.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm1843960nfu.7.2008.10.29.04.17.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:17:23 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080806) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aggelidis Nikos References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:17:28 -0000 Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > hi to all the list, > > i am trying to install ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from the ports system. > The problem seems to be that i can't complete succesfully the tests of > imagemagick. In particular i fail in all the Magick++ tests > > [snip] > > > If I remember well, this is a known issue. Change to the port's directory, execute make config, and deselect IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS from the options dialog. It should build and install fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 11:39:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08861065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CB728FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 2019 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 11:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.166.240) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 11:39:55 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BFF117075; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:39:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:39:53 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd@t41t.com Message-ID: <20081029113953.GA77037@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081029095511.GA76242@ozzmosis.com> <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:57 -0000 On Wed 2008-10-29 04:10:33 UTC-0700, freebsd@t41t.com (freebsd@t41t.com) wrote: > I'm not sure I got all the emails in this thread... maybe some just > haven't arrived yet. It began on freebsd-ports, then the OP started cross-posting to -questions, so I moved my replies to -questions. > Anyway... I, for one, depend on packages. It literally takes days to > build something like Firefox on my (admittedly old) computer. I'm > surprised that package creation is such a low priority. Are there so > few people running FreeBSD on old hardware? Well, FF eats memory. Just running it on something older than that is not going to be a pleasant experience. I imagine most people using Firefox are probably using fairly modern hardware, built within the last 4 years or so. I built Firefox from ports on a 5 year old 1.6 GHz PC running 7.0-REL in 256 Mb RAM. It certainly didn't take _days_ to build. From memory I ran it overnight and it was done in the morning. I would've killed the build if it was still running when I woke up. Anyway, Firefox is a pretty complicated piece of software. Most ports don't take anything like that long to build. In any case, there are packages of Firefox available, so it's not as bad as you make out! ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/www/firefox-2.0.0.17,1.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/www/firefox-3.0.3,1.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/www/firefox-2.0.0.17,1.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/www/firefox-3.0.3,1.tbz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 11:42:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989EE106567C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721448FC2C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 20268 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 11:42:23 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2008 11:42:23 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CCD50822; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CE8AF1CD92; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:42:18 -0400 (EDT) To: Franck Royer References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:42:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> (Franck Royer's message of "Mon\, 27 Oct 2008 10\:13\:11 +0000") Message-ID: <44ljw7eig5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:42:24 -0000 Franck Royer writes: > Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? How > can I access to my fifth partition ? John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I'm not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in the manual pages. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 11:52:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535BC1065677 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DAE8FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3133619wfg.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:52:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3pR3KpvBtsdjvnIHI918DnkHOT0cDUdV2GN0ZIfPPAo=; b=GvnuHgyGaIQVzTKv2YJdmEFVwmOY4HusucrpZAbnJZVmaMkGiu+DGXV3EjDXY9DzwO br7jf/xRL0NnrbWWUlt8j6NvJq8SdA/9DCnewVcyXVdOaU5pbGvwxGQ7sR+96miPq7Ws /WbkQH0VQhicsa8UzL82IQi5ThWgdd1BFXAPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qQQSrbaUWnad5YmadTtJJOtTAqq5A3sodp/13FtxYmw8m80j+/5TeybeWmwW3rEpmV u+jUW3c/vGk6gxO/ORjrXUlHjJK5fu3K2MfGfQImXTACp5Ajtqulm8hBAuCVSbfj9RpL zYaX/MhcysoOvB7Est4whC4MEFUJKOMXRvROs= Received: by 10.143.35.4 with SMTP id n4mr3957228wfj.64.1225281128824; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:52:08 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: "Manolis Kiagias" In-Reply-To: <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:52:09 -0000 Here are the configurations options: ===> The following configuration options are available for ImageMagick-6.4.4.1_1: X11=on "X11 support" IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS=on "Run bundled self-tests after build" IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP=off "OpenMP for SMP (needs threads)" IMAGEMAGICK_PERL=on "Perl support" IMAGEMAGICK_MODULES=off "Modules support (broken)" IMAGEMAGICK_BZLIB=on "Bzlib support" IMAGEMAGICK_16BIT_PIXEL=on "16bit pixel support" IMAGEMAGICK_DJVU=off "DJVU format support (needs threads)" IMAGEMAGICK_LCMS=on "LCMS support" IMAGEMAGICK_HDRI=off "High Dynamic Range Images (HDRI)" IMAGEMAGICK_TTF=on "Freetype support" IMAGEMAGICK_FONTCONFIG=on "Fontconfig support" IMAGEMAGICK_JPEG=on "JPG format support" IMAGEMAGICK_OPENEXR=off "OpenEXR support (needs threads)" IMAGEMAGICK_PNG=on "PNG format support" IMAGEMAGICK_TIFF=on "TIFF format support" IMAGEMAGICK_FPX=on "FPX format support" IMAGEMAGICK_JBIG=on "JBIG format support" IMAGEMAGICK_JPEG2000=on "JPEG2000 format support" IMAGEMAGICK_DOT=off "GraphViz dot graphs support" IMAGEMAGICK_WMF=off "WMF format support" IMAGEMAGICK_SVG=off "SVG format support" IMAGEMAGICK_PDF=on "PDF format support" IMAGEMAGICK_GSLIB=off "libgs (Postscript SHLIB) support" ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > what platform and FBSD version? #uname -a: FreeBSD apollo 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > did you build with perl support? yes > > If I remember well, this is a known issue. Change to the port's directory, > execute make config, and deselect IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS from the options dialog. > It should build and install fine. > oh i didn't know this, but Anton stated that > I've passed all tests on i386 So you think i should disable the tests and recompile? thank you all for your help so far, nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 12:01:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A071065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2CC8FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1218980eyi.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=obUt9SNeyFT8123osaJs2vpJmmuVI5cKBLcmjoFm8bs=; b=FjDp9Yq1py0uKUo1WCE/2N30dLAsgdmu01hmUMI0q/HFFP/85/3xg3KZSBj4TB/QKS Ql4piS7gugiWiQ5ApkTRxA5L7gR9PAIRD4eaecupP/i7mjYQg81PhaQ+B0hmYOnldpeK 5zImFIy0PWVv9s1oCoCoeXkMYvfV5dzPOPtB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vh55+5d5JNqE/qoxqB5wjttBJbzAiErc2xOSLQ7fsDVqvRQdZfNuhEAamNuCb3ZECE szIHUk141cVFVIwlF5XATBtXMdj/nlT7rTQjeBgIkRvbljPDZgJVYpwCuVJdf/zXQuYk mktujoEkNjQq+SNnocSg9mMHXZXKxLr85rOgg= Received: by 10.210.42.20 with SMTP id p20mr9925336ebp.4.1225281673274; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-284968.home.otenet.gr [85.73.160.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm16108266nfh.23.2008.10.29.05.01.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49085085.1080001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:01:09 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080806) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aggelidis Nikos References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:01:15 -0000 Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > Here are the configurations options: > > ===> The following configuration options are available for > ImageMagick-6.4.4.1_1: > X11=on "X11 support" > IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS=on "Run bundled self-tests after build" > IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP=off "OpenMP for SMP (needs threads)" > IMAGEMAGICK_PERL=on "Perl support" > IMAGEMAGICK_MODULES=off "Modules support (broken)" > IMAGEMAGICK_BZLIB=on "Bzlib support" > IMAGEMAGICK_16BIT_PIXEL=on "16bit pixel support" > IMAGEMAGICK_DJVU=off "DJVU format support (needs threads)" > IMAGEMAGICK_LCMS=on "LCMS support" > IMAGEMAGICK_HDRI=off "High Dynamic Range Images (HDRI)" > IMAGEMAGICK_TTF=on "Freetype support" > IMAGEMAGICK_FONTCONFIG=on "Fontconfig support" > IMAGEMAGICK_JPEG=on "JPG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_OPENEXR=off "OpenEXR support (needs threads)" > IMAGEMAGICK_PNG=on "PNG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_TIFF=on "TIFF format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_FPX=on "FPX format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_JBIG=on "JBIG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_JPEG2000=on "JPEG2000 format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_DOT=off "GraphViz dot graphs support" > IMAGEMAGICK_WMF=off "WMF format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_SVG=off "SVG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_PDF=on "PDF format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_GSLIB=off "libgs (Postscript SHLIB) support" > ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > > >> what platform and FBSD version? >> > > #uname -a: FreeBSD apollo 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb > 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 > root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > >> did you build with perl support? >> > yes > > >> If I remember well, this is a known issue. Change to the port's directory, >> execute make config, and deselect IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS from the options dialog. >> It should build and install fine. >> >> > oh i didn't know this, but Anton stated that > >> I've passed all tests on i386 >> > > So you think i should disable the tests and recompile? > > thank you all for your help so far, > nikos > AFAIR, there was a discussion about this not so long ago, and compiling without the tests was a proposed solution. In fact, I just checked my system and I have ImageMagick installed without the tests in the config options. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 12:03:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2403A106567A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44688FC2A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv9lK-0006yN-1M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:03:01 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv9lI-0004hO-GU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:02:56 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TC2tuL079870 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:02:55 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9TC2ttt079869 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:02:55 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:02:55 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029120255.GA79834@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:03:02 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:52:08PM +0200, Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > Here are the configurations options: > > ===> The following configuration options are available for > ImageMagick-6.4.4.1_1: > X11=on "X11 support" > IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS=on "Run bundled self-tests after build" > IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP=off "OpenMP for SMP (needs threads)" > IMAGEMAGICK_PERL=on "Perl support" > IMAGEMAGICK_MODULES=off "Modules support (broken)" > IMAGEMAGICK_BZLIB=on "Bzlib support" > IMAGEMAGICK_16BIT_PIXEL=on "16bit pixel support" > IMAGEMAGICK_DJVU=off "DJVU format support (needs threads)" > IMAGEMAGICK_LCMS=on "LCMS support" > IMAGEMAGICK_HDRI=off "High Dynamic Range Images (HDRI)" > IMAGEMAGICK_TTF=on "Freetype support" > IMAGEMAGICK_FONTCONFIG=on "Fontconfig support" > IMAGEMAGICK_JPEG=on "JPG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_OPENEXR=off "OpenEXR support (needs threads)" > IMAGEMAGICK_PNG=on "PNG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_TIFF=on "TIFF format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_FPX=on "FPX format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_JBIG=on "JBIG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_JPEG2000=on "JPEG2000 format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_DOT=off "GraphViz dot graphs support" > IMAGEMAGICK_WMF=off "WMF format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_SVG=off "SVG format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_PDF=on "PDF format support" > IMAGEMAGICK_GSLIB=off "libgs (Postscript SHLIB) support" > ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > > > what platform and FBSD version? > > #uname -a: FreeBSD apollo 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb > 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 > root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > did you build with perl support? > yes > > > > > If I remember well, this is a known issue. Change to the port's directory, > > execute make config, and deselect IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS from the options dialog. > > It should build and install fine. > > > oh i didn't know this, but Anton stated that > > I've passed all tests on i386 > > So you think i should disable the tests and recompile? In any case you can build and install without tests, and then do 'make check' separately. I'm building IM on i386 7.0-stable and 8.0-current. Will let you know how the tests go soon. Post also your /etc/make.conf -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 12:49:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32211065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C168FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3162409wfg.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=oiRvV53jyPjJzNioRmpt7UEg/TmWozcHhHlJfFrOr9k=; b=MmnpwEnuO8+tdpXUNWPTt0wH28eiwVIP3Wf9X+oUCnwti6wsKW1U4XfehpJHpYQC7P cIH9Erlz7Hu/RNmNS1y4gpZ/teK0oltLEWebVpO7cjddH5hBwbg6RusM/6FpMkRpIpP+ akyXwK0yi3hus0weXGFjneGFjJsA/2YozYWBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I/LnEIZe9zLRDV1OOKZXEdMKoaXNve23iTOyqxkTeJ12zeJbqpbvXyk8cStcp8j8OG i0hYqe69N8czgcARiECsJtNstVLGzo8xAxiVXvugZoGA1xu1eFjLOdMPgQnwAmrr3ciW u8RPsJMDbJdC/+ZIx5YiJ9ooPGHknHMXyOBHo= Received: by 10.142.177.7 with SMTP id z7mr3993478wfe.15.1225284576239; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30fc78250810290549o2ecdc879ye4f34453328ce5ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:49:36 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: "Anton Shterenlikht" In-Reply-To: <20081029120255.GA79834@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> <20081029120255.GA79834@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:49:39 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > In any case you can build and install without tests, > and then do 'make check' separately. > > I'm building IM on i386 7.0-stable and 8.0-current. > Will let you know how the tests go soon. > > Post also your /etc/make.conf > here it is: NO_OPENSSH = YES # added by use.perl 2008-10-28 20:44:42 PERL_VER=5.8.8 PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 i will try and build without the tests.... 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([193.136.24.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm2244976ugf.21.2008.10.29.05.23.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Rui Paulo To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:23:47 +0000 References: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Sender: Rui Paulo Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tangoGPS && FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:53:33 -0000 On 29 Oct 2008, at 09:25, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > Is anybody aware of a port of tangoGPS http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/About > to FreeBSD 7.0? It runs it in my Linux based cellphone Openmoko > FreeRunner and it would be nice to have it as well in my eeePC (just > for > having better capacity for cached maps of OpenStreetMap and a bigger > display). What kind of USB based GPS devices could be used in this > eeePC with FreeBSD 7.0? Googling shows http://www.deluoelectronics.com/customer/product.php?productid=60&cat=0&page as a possible option. I don't have it, but people have been using it with FreeBSD, as far as I can tell. Regards, -- Rui Paulo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 12:55:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7701065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55A338FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 88889 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Oct 2008 12:55:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=cIrZ9x1B1MLZQ2uP4xDZrGnrUM1uY7J9zFv/spmlsypS6zp8fZDqmxeyETB6q8/3+RDeTSHFMUlRuA/2xPJ76F0xX6FwwpXRkvy+TaOpuFMBvOP6xhwmH/v3vuWNlzjH9bv126l8fpgRnvK9vNs+1e/MEQXRwDik8O31SVvayME=; X-YMail-OSG: BpF4rbIVM1ni294caWniG0.KWlyAKi662NKd5DN7nZVkIIww3W6K0EHkogi2vmgysbjfSBaln99xqCRfrSR61RD_w12CC8aavUpkxF2yDgz.elw_oa12uqui9bBHRWkDphccypL2LANlGMbhFo.FMrZf6bPkuJAhg2L.m4twC8qkUgH1JE9dI0EFo6aqUg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:55:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <257377.83845.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:55:21 -0000 --- On Wed, 10/29/08, FBSD1 wrote: > From: FBSD1 > Subject: ports missing their packages. > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" > Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:09 AM > It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to > install the port for > real any time a change is made to the port make files or a > update to the > source of the software to test and verify the changes work > as wanted. > Creating the package after this is just one command and a > ftp upload to the > package server. Why are maintainers being given approval to > apply their > changes without creating the required package? This is just > lax management > on the part of the people who do the authorizing of the > changes. Missing > packages increases user frustration level and makes FreeBSD > look like its > being mis-managed. Very few port maintainers have access to simply upload a package to the ftp servers. This just isn't how the system works. During the process of checking to ensure that a port was built or updated sanely, we do create a package, just to ensure that that make target works as expected. Port maintainers are not the ones responsible for the entire system, only for maintaining a few files which folks get in the ports tree. > > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to > upload missing > packages to the package server direct or to a staging ftp > server so port/pkg > management staff can review first and them populate the > production package > server. Yeah, that's sane. Nobody will ever just upload something that demands to be run as root, then changes the root password, enables telnet, and hops on IRC to notify the person who uploaded it, or something. The system does work. It just doesn't provide instant gratification. If you really need things to happen in real-time, email the FreeBSD Foundation and find out how much cash it'd take for additional hardware to make that a reality, then send them that much cash. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 12:57:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366851065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30158FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjgBADDsB0mkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIwQqLIINR Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 13:27:40 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:27:47 +0100 Message-Id: <1225283267.2775.9.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: HP Proliant DL360 G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:57:04 -0000 Dear FreeBSD users, Our hardware begins to age and we plan to buy two new machines at HP. Our choice focused on the HP Proliant DL360 G5. As HP doesn't officially support FreeBSD, I checked with the "7.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes" and everything seems to be supported, except the network interface which is an HP NC373i. From what I can see, only NC370i and NC370T are supported. Can someone confirm that this chip is not supported (and that the rest is OK) ? If you have other comments about our choice they are welcome too ... Thanks, Julien -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:04:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AA81065687 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liettneff@bk.ru) Received: from big.innet.yaroslavl.su (big.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A7E8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liettneff@bk.ru) Received: from relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (relay.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.70]) by big.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9TD4jZM070644; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:04:45 +0300 (MSK) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.195.205]) by relay.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9TD4h9B033135; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:04:45 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from liettneff@bk.ru) Received: from [192.168.10.68] (unknown [192.168.10.68]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819391703A; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:04:40 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <49085F65.4020503@bk.ru> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:04:37 +0300 From: Michael Lednev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Cigar References: <1225283267.2775.9.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1225283267.2775.9.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:04:48 -0000 Julien Cigar пишет: > Dear FreeBSD users, > > Our hardware begins to age and we plan to buy two new machines at HP. > Our choice focused on the HP Proliant DL360 G5. As HP doesn't officially > support FreeBSD, I checked with the "7.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes" and > everything seems to be supported, except the network interface which is > an HP NC373i. From what I can see, only NC370i and NC370T are supported. > > Can someone confirm that this chip is not supported (and that the rest > is OK) ? If you have other comments about our choice they are welcome > too ... > from dmesg bce0: mem 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bce0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bce0: Ethernet address: 00:22:64:06:f8:96 bce0: [ITHREAD] bce0: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W (0x01090605); Flags( MFW MSI ) bce1: mem 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 miibus1: on bce1 brgphy1: PHY 1 on miibus1 brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bce1: Ethernet address: 00:22:64:06:f8:8a bce1: [ITHREAD] bce1: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W (0x01090605); Flags( MFW MSI ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:32:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B548106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: from ibox.insign.ch (ibox.insign.ch [195.134.143.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 883FE8FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from om-lists-bsd@omx.ch) Received: (qmail 14305 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 13:05:39 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.170] ([80.254.166.203]) by ibox.insign.ch ([195.134.143.207]) with ESMTP via TCP; 29 Oct 2008 13:05:39 -0000 From: Olivier Mueller To: Julien Cigar In-Reply-To: <1225283267.2775.9.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> References: <1225283267.2775.9.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:05:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1225285538.8164.53.camel@ompc.insign.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:32:22 -0000 Hello, On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 13:27 +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > Our hardware begins to age and we plan to buy two new machines at HP. > Our choice focused on the HP Proliant DL360 G5. As HP doesn't officially > support FreeBSD, I checked with the "7.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes" and > everything seems to be supported, except the network interface which is > an HP NC373i. From what I can see, only NC370i and NC370T are supported. > Can someone confirm that this chip is not supported I have just got two new DL360G5 with xeon E5420 cpus (HP Ref Number: 470064-731), and the on-board network cards are seen from FreeBSD7 as: bce0: mem 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3 miibus0: on bce0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto bce0: Ethernet address: 00:21:5a:a6:8f:f0 bce0: [ITHREAD] bce0: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W (0x01090605); Flags( MFW MSI ) So there are good chances it's the same on your setup? But maybe it's a new model of mainboard... regards & HTH, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:34:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6789106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA278FC26 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ycf81a00C1GhbT857daWYe; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:34:30 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ydaq1a00X2P6wsM3Tdarbq; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:34:51 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mMpJWcEZOz4A:10 a=jKCK5jJXsVMA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=ntlnkdeUpM3qveAEn0IA:9 a=IhDHNoXxdrFt3-hpvLNlJEbSua0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F3BCC9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:34:50 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Aggelidis Nikos Message-ID: <20081029133450.GA78376@icarus.home.lan> References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> <20081029120255.GA79834@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <30fc78250810290549o2ecdc879ye4f34453328ce5ba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30fc78250810290549o2ecdc879ye4f34453328ce5ba@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:34:52 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:49:36PM +0200, Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > In any case you can build and install without tests, > > and then do 'make check' separately. > > > > I'm building IM on i386 7.0-stable and 8.0-current. > > Will let you know how the tests go soon. > > > > Post also your /etc/make.conf > > > > here it is: > NO_OPENSSH = YES > # added by use.perl 2008-10-28 20:44:42 > PERL_VER=5.8.8 > PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 Your "NO_OPENSSH = YES" line is broken, by the way. You have a space between the "H" and the "=". -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:38:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241041065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78CF8FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIAAD/6B0mkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIzD+DUQ Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 14:38:54 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Olivier Mueller In-Reply-To: <1225285538.8164.53.camel@ompc.insign.local> References: <1225283267.2775.9.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <1225285538.8164.53.camel@ompc.insign.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:39:00 +0100 Message-Id: <1225287540.2775.15.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Proliant DL360 G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:38:56 -0000 The one we plan to buy is this one (457922-421) : http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/be/fr/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-3328412-241475-241475-1121486-3633805.html It seems to be the same network chipset as in yours .. (https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/provisioner/05/470064-731.htm) So I can consider that it's supported .. good! :-) Thanks for your answers On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:05 +0100, Olivier Mueller wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 13:27 +0100, Julien Cigar wrote: > > Our hardware begins to age and we plan to buy two new machines at HP. > > Our choice focused on the HP Proliant DL360 G5. As HP doesn't officially > > support FreeBSD, I checked with the "7.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes" and > > everything seems to be supported, except the network interface which is > > an HP NC373i. From what I can see, only NC370i and NC370T are supported. > > Can someone confirm that this chip is not supported > > I have just got two new DL360G5 with xeon E5420 cpus (HP Ref Number: > 470064-731), and the on-board network cards are seen from FreeBSD7 as: > > bce0: mem > 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3 > miibus0: on bce0 > brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, > 1000baseT-FDX, auto > bce0: Ethernet address: 00:21:5a:a6:8f:f0 > bce0: [ITHREAD] > bce0: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W > (0x01090605); Flags( MFW MSI ) > > So there are good chances it's the same on your setup? But maybe it's > a new model of mainboard... > > regards & HTH, > Olivier > > -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:41:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EE11065775 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AE38FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KvBIS-00012L-9v for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:18 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KvBIR-00069Q-JL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:15 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TDfFnx080298 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:15 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9TDfE9S080297 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:14 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:14 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029134114.GA80273@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 X-Spam-Level: / Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:20 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:47:03PM +0200, Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > In any case you can build and install without tests, > > and then do 'make check' separately. > > > > I'm building IM on i386 7.0-stable and 8.0-current. > > Will let you know how the tests go soon. > > > > Post also your /etc/make.conf > > here it is: > NO_OPENSSH = YES > # added by use.perl 2008-10-28 20:44:42 > PERL_VER=5.8.8 > PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 > > i will try and build without the tests.... not sure if it is related to your problems, but I'm surprised you haven't got at least this in your /etc/make.conf CFLAGS= -O -pipe MAKE_SHELL=sh BDECFLAGS= -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align \ -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Winline \ -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith \ -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe INSTALL=install -C -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:44:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7291065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thiago528@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BC78FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thiago528@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1520236qwb.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:44:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0GF7hS4n+3kTS5nFl/2GoSMpWYNFLPvSvKzH0QTzU2Q=; b=aywWOJmue/k5H+u8dP7NAOXM8+OaMbbD2kfG+obwzt6w09d9i3SPObYtdyB5wLgL2f b7ds8ZTQ2OuwrtH+CPKAnzbSZIMaInipE9IDZXXJu0+Ktf5rNkQ9mzaVNSBfS7s+NgeP Jt/NJUVYt2YYn3/9JOisE8ZKrx8XWt8a1lRSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=sY9N0+Tkizd+5EuIyaiZ2S+e4QeO3Be7zFjIQDXx5ydc+nq948u3ERJKqZfFGCOtGd O/BzLeozP71N/hpFXnIB0RtXuxF89R4g3jDPwVTBosMYakr+fMupTRvnkFnsAFeq7l+t S7W7fvv6Xb/u6hpJfL+DUyupes1BSv+ZlHxxw= Received: by 10.214.114.4 with SMTP id m4mr2093988qac.320.1225286336318; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.254.9? ([189.104.144.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm2576725yws.5.2008.10.29.06.18.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Thiago R. Santos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:18:47 -0300 Message-Id: <1225286327.6866.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:44:36 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:14 +0800, Canhua wrote: > Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. > I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: > Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ > FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > > although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. > Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install > using ports means. > > Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be > install from ports while not able to be added from package system? > Am I right? The package name of this port is 'py25-networkx'. You can use the Freshports.org search to find the package names. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Thiago R. Santos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:45:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E71C1065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3F=fdf8ebd4@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73258FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3F=fdf8ebd4@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20781646FE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71C7D0A2C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:33:44 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029133344.6960b5af@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> References: <20081029095511.GA76242@ozzmosis.com> <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:45:40 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:33 -0700 freebsd@t41t.com wrote: > andrew clarke said (on 2008/10/29): > > You need to understand that the FreeBSD project by its nature is > > primarily source-code driven. Making packages available (of any > > port) is of very low priority in comparison to the rest of the > > system (testing, documentation, etc). Demanding that the FreeBSD > > volunteers build a package just because you want to use it is a bit > > unfair, particularly when you can make one yourself without much > > trouble. > > I'm not sure I got all the emails in this thread... maybe some just > haven't arrived yet. > > Anyway... I, for one, depend on packages. It literally takes days to > build something like Firefox on my (admittedly old) computer. In that case I would suggest that you stick to release versions and don't update your ports tree between releases unless there's a significant vulnerability that's fixed in the current tree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 13:49:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23D4106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805618FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KvBQM-0005CQ-QP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:31 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KvBQL-0006GQ-Vm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:26 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TDnP0s080353 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:25 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9TDnOm5080352 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:24 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:24 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029134924.GA80314@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:49:32 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:17:23PM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > > hi to all the list, > > > > i am trying to install ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from the ports system. > > The problem seems to be that i can't complete succesfully the tests of > > imagemagick. In particular i fail in all the Magick++ tests > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > If I remember well, this is a known issue. Change to the port's > directory, execute make config, and deselect IMAGEMAGICK_TESTS from the > options dialog. It should build and install fine. on i386 7.0-release: [skip] PASS: utilities/tests/wave.sh PASS: utilities/tests/montage.sh ==================== All 699 tests passed ==================== cd PerlMagick && make CC='cc -std=gnu99' test /bin/sh ../magick.sh PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 "-MExtUtils::Com mand::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/bzlib/*.t t/fp x/*.t t/jbig/*.t t/jpeg/*.t t/jp2/*.t t/png/*.t t/tiff/*.t t/wmf/*.t t/zlib/*.t t/blob............ok t/bzlib/read......ok t/bzlib/write.....ok t/composite.......ok t/filter..........ok t/fpx/read........ok t/fpx/write.......ok t/getattribute....ok t/jbig/read.......ok t/jbig/write......ok t/jp2/read........ok t/jpeg/read.......ok t/jpeg/write......ok t/montage.........ok t/png/read-16.....ok t/png/read........ok t/png/write-16....ok t/png/write.......ok t/read............ok t/setattribute....ok t/tiff/read.......ok t/tiff/write......ok t/wmf/read........ok t/write...........ok t/zlib/read.......ok t/zlib/write......ok All tests successful. Files=26, Tests=343, 130 wallclock secs ( 0.45 cusr + 0.06 csys = 0.52 CPU) # on i386 8.0-current (faster box): PASS: utilities/tests/wave.sh PASS: utilities/tests/montage.sh ==================== All 699 tests passed ==================== cd PerlMagick && make CC='cc -std=gnu99' test /bin/sh ../magick.sh PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 "-MExtUtils::Com mand::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/bzlib/*.t t/fp x/*.t t/jbig/*.t t/jpeg/*.t t/jp2/*.t t/png/*.t t/tiff/*.t t/wmf/*.t t/zlib/*.t t/blob............ok t/bzlib/read......ok t/bzlib/write.....ok t/composite.......ok t/filter..........ok t/fpx/read........ok t/fpx/write.......ok t/getattribute....ok t/jbig/read.......ok t/jbig/write......ok t/jp2/read........ok t/jpeg/read.......ok t/jpeg/write......ok t/montage.........ok t/png/read-16.....ok t/png/read........ok t/png/write-16....ok t/png/write.......ok t/read............ok t/setattribute....ok t/tiff/read.......ok t/tiff/write......ok t/wmf/read........ok t/write...........ok t/zlib/read.......ok t/zlib/write......ok All tests successful. Files=26, Tests=343, 20 wallclock secs (13.97 cusr + 4.35 csys = 18.32 CPU) # perhaps you just haven't built perlmagick, or use some old libraries - just a guess. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:14:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7637106567C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706878FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so4200qba.35 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:14:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OQ80OFOuhaCJji1X+YFz1srVILwtRKa98p7QEW5cK88=; b=e2QRLij78Q90jamZ+wVj9UHvK85YP2cLsNyUGpaownIQp2l98gHmMBwwZ9h93d30DB kn+MNr9ex4G5+lZSin9qBSn3o5PQWg7XiW6J5tZcmHyrQHhDvz2xh8+dyvWXTvb6CrdS YFnns7kyCG9l/TiPlzZb0csubq1JWXN17p0gU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZCz9HHD0orpM0oKaKF50fjBnU3WzI47+M5/lGHb4qqjTQcGiS8Vunn1zaSG1SdBg8V ucphWkd0QZliMmgqdhWwnW157ZEG0s9TqZtfQ8Tfgl29R4cgm5iYOIH68Yy0A5aeVqC4 enblqldlmBLfqOQnAOP0AnDyiZbDP/x5lwX6s= Received: by 10.210.115.17 with SMTP id n17mr10041479ebc.71.1225287811187; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.101? ([81.193.51.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d25sm2014504nfh.6.2008.10.29.06.43.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:43:23 +0000 From: pwn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:14:41 -0000 immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be performed by order 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel 2 - The Cutting Edge 3 - Updating FreeBSD Is this the proper order? there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of the operating system and the installation of new applications without conflicts or problems with ports. thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:26:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59385106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4F98FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so16429wfg.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JZJlRtXUtWvOubLCZHbbe0H+Mwm/uWpyacXdBWIOGhg=; b=stPvybV84pyWqpSLHyjLs3AUQpxqmzhe2dsXF7u7LDvneu1QDyFv5dxJjgTdRNFTmP KDW8velMNT+8eaSljvuXAz/Sd6YfIb+Wsb3Javbl3AE2wSDFH/+V3Jt52lWvolL7mcRN 0X73jN0Q6rX9PEhRPQ9BXvnB5qjhLNr2fxyHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=e1i3T81RjasrgiYNr9aiv2xPTG/QDJwazF55xOpN6Io71Eh4XYoGJ74BkUm6ylahNO Jv96TIqJ+3kP1ObGgVgw61ee9vRTlvyQe1TBMJ/nQ3oiiPKQdab5woA3z2nU0FR3SUTT QgRd4ompxp2+LUllCTG5ghLCYGxCKpuggF1cI= Received: by 10.143.14.6 with SMTP id r6mr4053177wfi.144.1225290417558; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30fc78250810290726q166d30f6u1a17afa2f1cb7431@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:57 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" In-Reply-To: <20081029133450.GA78376@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <30fc78250810290452i5eebb153oc9cfc5b03ec229d6@mail.gmail.com> <20081029120255.GA79834@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <30fc78250810290549o2ecdc879ye4f34453328ce5ba@mail.gmail.com> <20081029133450.GA78376@icarus.home.lan> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:26:58 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Your "NO_OPENSSH = YES" line is broken, by the way. You have a space > between the "H" and the "=". > thank you! i fixed it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:27:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BE41065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0388F8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YTAM1a00116LCl052UZF5m; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:33:15 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YUZE1a0042P6wsM3SUZEsX; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:33:15 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xfgAq_I20MYA:10 a=6g13V3AkWZwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=ba84hd-Yz0fm_QFEh2QA:9 a=NAV2XwsprC-1A1DvYS4A:7 a=47zWBhQl5LggZtQdc-9ZsD4PZsgA:4 a=uy-DFDNlWMMA:10 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 06C4AC941E; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:33:14 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Carl Message-ID: <20081029043314.GA66773@icarus.home.lan> References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <20081028024143.GA37131@icarus.home.lan> <20081028120407.G3326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081028122013.GA49298@icarus.home.lan> <4907DB6B.8090000@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4907DB6B.8090000@telus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:27:18 -0000 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 08:41:31PM -0700, Carl wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick said: >>> ad6: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 >>> error=40 LBA=134802751 >> >> Are you sure you don't have a bad hard disk? This looks to be like a >> classic block/sector failure. > > I hadn't realized that a bad block would manifest itself with a message > about DMA. Seems like such semantics would be a little obscure to most > users, apparently including me. Do not let the term "DMA" confuse you -- the operation was a read operation, and DMA is used to do the transfer of data between disk/controller/local memory. You might see things like "READ_DMA48" and "WRITE_DMA48", which just indicate that 48-bit LBA addressing mode is in use when attempting the operation. For sake of comparison, you should see what Linux and Solaris do. For example, when a disk falls off the bus (silently) on a Linux machine using ext3fs, all I've ever seen is continual spewing of "ext3fs journal errors" on the console -- absolutely no indication that the disk itself has actually fallen off the bus. With SCSI disks under Solaris, the level of detail you get is perfect -- it's very easy to determine what happened. But in the case of ATA disks, you get more or less something that looks similar to FreeBSD. If you have complaints about the formatting of the output, I would recommend filing a PR for it, or bringing it up with Soren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.org), author of the ata(4) layer. I will agree with you that some more coherent error messages would be useful. >> So you're saying that the *exact* same READ_DMA error, at the *exact* >> same LBA, is reported on ad4? If so, that's very bizarre. > > No, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Both instances were on ad6, so far. Then that makes ad6, or something specific to ad6, the culprit. >> Can you please provide the output from the following commands? > > See end of message. Let me know if you then want more (in- or out-of-band). > > Having now installed smartmontools, you can see below that I ran it for > both ad4 and ad6. Sure enough, ad6 has logged 2 READ DMA errors - does > that make this a definitive bad disk then? I'll have to look at the output. See below. > Should I not be worried about ad4 too? Those Raw_Read_Error_Rate and > Seek_Error_Rate numbers should be zero or very close to it, shouldn't > they? I don't know how to interpret what I'm seeing in that output, so > I'd appreciate any insight. Should I be returning both disks for > warranty claims (they're both very recently purchased)? As you've admitted, the problem is that most people don't know how to interpret SMART data, and start "freaking out" over things which are normal. People focus on the RAW values, which for many attributes is the wrong thing to look at. For example, on Seagate disks, a insanely high Raw_Read_Error_Rate and Seek_Error_Rate means absolutely nothing; it's normal. But with another vendor, it might actually be accurate. Welcome to one of the problems with SMART: the specification does not state what format the raw data must be in. Seagate chooses to encode some raw data for some SMART attributes in a custom format. The format is not publicly documented. This is why you have to go off of the adjusted values shown in VALUE/WORST/THRESH. "How am I supposed to know all of this?!" You aren't -- it comes with experience. > Is there anything I should know about this model of hard disk with > regards to being known for problems? Also, is there a good test I can > perform to hopefully flush out any problems before I put this thing into > service? I'm confused: what gives you the impression there's a problem with *this model* of hard disk? I've seen no evidence presented that indicates such. What makes you ask that question? None of us here work at Seagate, so even if there was a known problem with this specific model of disk, we wouldn't know. For all we know, there could be little 3mm tall terrorists dancing on the platters, ready to leap out at any moment and stab us! :-) Please keep something in mind: just because you have brand new hard disks *does not* guarantee they're free of errors. I have seen hundreds of "brand new" hard disks fail right out of the box, including SCSI disks (which people, for some reason, think are "less likely to have this problem" simply because they cost more money). I deal with this situation on a daily basis at work, believe it or not. > # vmstat -i Interrupts look fine; I was looking for anything that might indicate an absurdly high rate. atacontrol cap output looks fine too, nothing weird or out of the ordinary (I wasn't expecting anything to show up here, but I did want to get an idea if the disks were truly SATA300 or not). Let's take a look at the SMART data. > # smartctl -a /dev/ad4 > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 117 099 006 Pre-fail Always - 158643744 > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 092 091 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 064 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 2921473 > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 499 > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 > 184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 > 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 099 000 Old_age Always - 65540 > 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 071 069 045 Old_age Always - 29 (Lifetime Min/Max 23/31) > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 029 040 000 Old_age Always - 29 (0 20 0 0) > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 039 019 000 Old_age Always - 158643744 > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 All of the attributes here look good. To get an update on Attribute 198, you'd need to run a short offline test ("smartctl -t short /dev/ad4"). You can safely do this while the disk is in use; don't let the word "offline" make you think the disk disappears. You can watch the status using smartctl -a, and once its finished, you can compare the old value to the new. I'm willing to bet it remains zero. The temperature also looks good (29C). Additionally, the SMART error log for this disk looks fine; no signs of errors. I would say ad4 is in perfect shape. > # smartctl -a /dev/ad6 > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 116 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 106947042 > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 092 091 000 Pre-fail Always - 0 > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 2 > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 061 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 1376532 > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 499 > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 1 > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 108 > 184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0 > 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 2 > 188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 > 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 071 069 045 Old_age Always - 29 (Lifetime Min/Max 23/31) > 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 029 040 000 Old_age Always - 29 (0 19 0 0) > 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 038 018 000 Old_age Always - 106947042 > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 2 > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 2 > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 And here we see the core of the problem. :-) Attribute 5 shows the disk has reallocated two sectors (meaning, it detected two sectors were bad, and reallocated them). This is hard evidence of bad blocks on the disk. Attribute 10 indicates that there was one incident of the disk failing to spin up properly, and had to re-initiate spinning up of the drive. Why/how this happened is unknown, but at least it's not a huge number. One incident is probably nothing to worry about. I'm not completely sure what Attribute 187 represents, but it very likely is directly related to Attribute 5. Attributes 197 and 198 indicate a bigger problem: the two bad sectors described earlier **have not** been corrected or remapped. This is bad. I'll explain a bit how SATA disks deal with bad sectors. First and foremost, straight out of the factory there's a pre-defined list of physically bad sectors on the disk. These sectors are never accessed by the drive, and the manufacturer (Seagate) is the one who creates that list. It's 100% normal; SCSI disks have the same thing (physical defect list vs. grown defect list). SATA disks also have a certain amount of pre-allocated "spare sectors" that the disk can use for transparent remapping. When I say transparent, I mean the OS never gets told of what's going on behind the scenes. Say the drive attempts to write some data, and the firmware on the drive notices that one of the sectors has a problem. The drive will, unknown to the OS, say "okay lets not use that one, mark it bad, and instead use one from the spare pool". But there's only so many spares... As far as I know, SMART **does not** log transparent sector remaps. When the OS starts seeing errors due to bad sectors, it means the pre-allocated "spare sector" pool has been exhausted. SMART also reflects this condition. What you see above is a classic example of a hard disk with a growing number of bad sectors. There are *definitely* other bad sectors on the disk which the drive has remapped on its own, but things are getting worse. As for the SMART error log -- what you see there is a direct result of the two bad sectors. Remember, block != sector, which is why you see two error entries for the same LBA (there are probably two sectors next to one another which make up part of the block). Advice is simple: replace this hard disk. I highly recommend you do an "advanced replacement" RMA, assuming Seagate offers it, where the manufacturer sends you a new/refurbished drive first. They'll need a credit card number (in the case you don't ship them the bad disk within 30 days, they charge you $$). Hope this helps. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:29:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353C7106567D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF008FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YaKA1a00616LCl056eDSf4; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:13:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YeDf1a00D4Mx3R23SeDjMo; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:13:52 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=pQs5aej7AAAA:8 a=MiUiSR_eWE5scMVP6bsA:9 a=kEE60Z-Hcf5gTnl_ZwUA:7 a=GwMtUbjiLX6p7QeAlj_gK3-Em1wA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Message-ID: <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:11:38 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin , questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> In-Reply-To: <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:29:55 -0000 Juergen Lock wrote: > > Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: > (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on > -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup to > this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) > > 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC > (the relevant MFC commits are: > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 > - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs patches > for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter commit can't > be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, so flash9 > probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP you probably > should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP you also need to > use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not supported with 4BSD. > linprocfs patches for 6: > http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch > http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch > > 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC > (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html > ) > > 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . > > 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and dependencies > are installed and up to date(!). (the default emulators/linux_base-fc4 > should work, if you want to use a later one don't forget to set > compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT > to whichever version you use in make.conf. Note however that on 6, only > the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 really works.) > > 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run > nspluginwrapper -i /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so > and restart firefox. > > 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of > flash9, > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e000016.html > (if you use portaudit you need to `make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' > to be able to install the port), and fc4 seems to be eol'd too, so you > probably want to install something like the noscript firefox extension, > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 > and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on > sites you trust... > > And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even > on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want > to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump > (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying > specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever > signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin > needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about > it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. > If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last > few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... > > You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: > /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so > and > /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin > (if you see `not found' in there you know something is wrong) - although > that doesn't show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. > > Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in native Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional thing I had to do was copy /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. After that Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, but slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so lucky and still has problems with flash9 locking up FF. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:30:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D19C1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264368FC32 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aggelidis.news@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so6096yxb.13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EY2ae18act7I5y50AJTkPzNOIbWJu08A43HHGZhG7g8=; b=aptOEK1ErrpLBPhXhoxTC0MUXh5Ks6UPSl5GlGGzqbX8mzai0QSnhlZA+za0xJ0VWS u2D+Gw031pdxvO0YHvhSpwyuF/9c+mfvMQlNrYktlbej9gH8p45YzOtS3qi9yhcJV1h4 61zW4qkgMMSXI+XHmOXKd1EBhA1IiS/+8kzGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jkXJVhphum8ZNYH00rPsY14k9ivtjpNp/qarYybmf6GpUc4gH4qtRLEXdKT51XAHXe Gdok3VcilpARXAI6e8jk4TKjw/Q9ovdsT1dlMpdxQtsrnY0L0QIDghKa8kX34bzcFUwz W+AaQIW/rrjtL6IjsxGdF627VD4y9NC/kENc8= Received: by 10.143.28.8 with SMTP id f8mr4046518wfj.270.1225290635975; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.12 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30fc78250810290730y173c543bk64c8c0cbaa64259b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:30:35 +0200 From: "Aggelidis Nikos" To: "Anton Shterenlikht" In-Reply-To: <20081029134924.GA80314@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <20081029134924.GA80314@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:30:37 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > perhaps you just haven't built perlmagick, or use some old libraries - > just a guess. > I haven't build perlmagick. I only tried to build imagemagick {because it was required by kile}... Could it be this? The problems that i find are at the test of magick++.... i pass successfully every other test... > I'm surprised you haven't got at least this in your /etc/make.conf > > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > MAKE_SHELL=sh > BDECFLAGS= -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align \ > -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Winline \ > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith \ > -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings > COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe > INSTALL=install -C i have the "default" make.conf if i recall correctly... should i add them? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:41:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C420B1065686 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633518FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dreameration@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so16852tid.3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=h8g3gq0xHetnA64EIBsT6fFc506QXsRg8iFHPKReaC8=; b=fioAYF2/WifWz3F3SO7rXrSm11DXW04WSC1nmb8ks5a05Cm6EYi6zt1uqtwax0Fu69 s3i/UaGjpv5qY/wQFuI+5Ljw4p/JeeYzArvdXej6GG4cmovTKjCnxU/7nMFZEbZQjA7n 755EXlNpjRZv89bnMohaGA50k0VNwQkdZAkeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=s/PB3K+Kt8ndPUOHIZtv5ulcOHP/6j8sxYcrXb892CXUx4rrv1KYPrk33sNtqx8VKJ rLalqN6o5tQq5Z9821VHeWvMZcHlC2LYXrQUzYvRsF4I46QEZHN8qmXrRxZtaERgzjxn qfKIvyb8BO4z+leFmS1hepNjR+MblcKnjPKnU= Received: by 10.110.39.20 with SMTP id m20mr5951928tim.59.1225291316039; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.17.19 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:41:55 +0800 From: Canhua To: "Thiago R. Santos" In-Reply-To: <1225286327.6866.3.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1225286327.6866.3.camel@localhost> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:41:57 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Thiago R. Santos wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:14 +0800, Canhua wrote: >> Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. >> I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: >> Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ >> FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: >> File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) >> >> although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. >> Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install >> using ports means. >> >> Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be >> install from ports while not able to be added from package system? >> Am I right? > > The package name of this port is 'py25-networkx'. You can use the > Freshports.org search to find the package names. Wonderful place~ thank you However I could not pkg_add py25-networkx still, being told that pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py25-networkx.tbz' by URL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:45:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A691F1065692 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637288FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KvCIi-0000Z2-Nz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:42 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KvCIh-0006pl-Mg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:35 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TEjZ9G080712 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:35 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9TEjYbG080711 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:34 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:34 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029144534.GA80687@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <30fc78250810290033r48549160wf3dd10ccdeabe100@mail.gmail.com> <49084643.3010709@gmail.com> <20081029134924.GA80314@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <30fc78250810290730y173c543bk64c8c0cbaa64259b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <30fc78250810290730y173c543bk64c8c0cbaa64259b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: Re: build ImageMagick 6.4.4.1_1 from ports failed... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:45:43 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:30:35PM +0200, Aggelidis Nikos wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > perhaps you just haven't built perlmagick, or use some old libraries - > > just a guess. > > > I haven't build perlmagick. I only tried to build imagemagick {because > it was required by kile}... > > Could it be this? The problems that i find are at the test of > magick++.... i pass successfully every other test... > > > I'm surprised you haven't got at least this in your /etc/make.conf > > > > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > > MAKE_SHELL=sh > > BDECFLAGS= -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align \ > > -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Winline \ > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith \ > > -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings > > COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe > > INSTALL=install -C > i have the "default" make.conf if i recall correctly... should i add them? have a look at the example, typically at /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:54:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0436B1065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBC18FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 757258C0D4; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:38:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:38:07 -0500 To: FBSD1 Message-ID: <20081029143807.GB6191@soaustin.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:54:50 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: > An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing > packages one word for you: "security". What you suggest is never, ever, going to be implemented, due to the total lack of security. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:54:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EDB1065677 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD628FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id B8F738C0D1; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:35:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:35:51 -0500 To: Scot Hetzel Message-ID: <20081029143551.GA6191@soaustin.net> References: <790a9fff0810290242m58012ac5r10bb761f65c97a1c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <790a9fff0810290242m58012ac5r10bb761f65c97a1c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:54:50 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:42:18AM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote: > So you are advocating that port maintainers have to create packages > for all the supported FreeBSD architecture's (amd64, arm, i386, ia64, > mips, pc98, powerpc, sparc64, sun4v). That would be 9 packages > needing to be created at the time the port maintainer submits the > upgrade PR. Nope, not 9 :-) You are forgetting FreeBSD 6, 7, and -current have builds enabled. OTOH, portmgr is only supporting amd64, i386, and sparc64 right now, and is not doing sparc64-8 due to lack of machines, so really the matrix is "only" 8. The ia64 package builds were stopped due to problems (and the fact that we only have 2 machines). There are no package building machines for the others yet -- and some of them ae really only going to be used for embedded systems, so only a very minimal subset of ports is going to be useful. So far, we've talked about addding machines for these, but there are no fixed plans so far. > It could be as simple as forgetting to add the ports subdirectory to > the category Makefile (i.e www/Makefile). Actually this is an uncommon problem; every time portmgr builds a package set, error messages are spit out if things are missing, and we are quick to email the maintainers :-) mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 14:58:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AAA106568D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77258FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9TEwaW9005364; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:58:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:58:36 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Richard Smith In-Reply-To: <714034.8901.qm@web45014.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20081030013308.P70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <714034.8901.qm@web45014.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: odd problem, system clock stops while power-down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:39 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Richard Smith wrote: > > > > How do i get around this so i wouldn't have > > to set the clock every > > > > time i boot into freebsd? and by the way, does > > freebsd use the > > > > CMOS clock? > > > > > > An idea would to use NTP to get the exact time from > > your > > > local atomic time dealer at system startup. :-) > > > > > > See ntpd and ntpdate for further information. > > > > Definitely the best advice. However it doesn't explain > > why his system > > apparently fails to retrieve the current date & time > > from CMOS on boot. > > > > Mine always have, though CMOS clocks rarely keep good time, > > so using NTP > > after network connection after boot I see initial > > corrections of several > > seconds usually .. still it's better than having all > > your log timestamps > > screwed after reboot until NTP does its thing. > > > > Richard: are you running UTC or local time in CMOS? If the > > latter, does > > the file /etc/wall_cmos_clock exist? > > > > cheers, Ian Copying back to the list, for the archives and for more eyes to help, especially if the below doesn't help. > Thanks for the reply, wondering how to configure freebsd to use CMOS > time, as i'm using it as a desktop system. so it wouldn't be that my > machine always connects to the Internet to get the correct time. If in the wrong timezone it should come up a whole number of hours out. > my CMOS is running local time, and the file /etc/wall_cmos_clock > exists. is the time zone configuration related to this problem? Could well be. Check out tzsetup(8) re setting your timezone. If you update it, see the note about needing to run adjkerntz(8) .. but being a workstation you may as well just reboot to see if it's fixed :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:04:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9ED106567F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 205348FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 5851 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 15:04:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.159.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 15:04:05 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C42D417075; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:55:34 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:55:34 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: pwn Message-ID: <20081029145534.GA78317@ozzmosis.com> References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:04:08 -0000 On Wed 2008-10-29 13:43:23 UTC+0000, pwn (pwnedomina@gmail.com) wrote: > immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be > performed by order > 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel > 2 - The Cutting Edge > 3 - Updating FreeBSD > > Is this the proper order? > there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? > since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be > followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if > possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of > the operating system and the installation of new applications without > conflicts or problems with ports. Re: Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel. Depending on your hardware and software requirements you may need to configure the supplied GENERIC kernel, or perhaps even build your own custom kernel and configure that. These days I think many people just use the GENERIC kernel and configure it from /boot/loader.conf. For a desktop machine it may just be a single entry to load a kernel module for your sound card. If you do use a GENERIC kernel this has the advantage that you can run freebsd-update whenever there are important security updates to the kernel itself, and then those updates become immediately active after a reboot. There is no need to rebuild the kernel, and very little downtime. Re: The Cutting Edge. In simple terms I would not bother with any of this unless you want to be actively involved in the development of the operating system. If you just want something that works reliably, stick with FreeBSD-RELEASE and use freebsd-update when you want to upgrade your FreeBSD version (eg. from 6.3 to 6.4). freebsd-update is brilliant and really makes updating fairly painless. Which leads me to... Re: Updating FreeBSD. Every FreeBSD sysadmin should read this. You should know how to install packages from the command-line using pkg_add (see the section called Installing Applications: Packages and Ports), and if you want to use the Ports system, learn how to use portsnap (another brilliant tool). Also, if you're using the Ports system (to build and install software from source code) I also recommend using portmaster, which isn't talked about in the Handbook, but is leaps and bounds over portupgrade (my personal opinion). > thank you. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:14:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7891106567B; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B30A8FC17; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 0E4748C0D2; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:14:12 -0500 To: joeb Message-ID: <20081029151411.GC6191@soaustin.net> References: <20081029084637.GA68812@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:14:12 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:02:14PM +0800, joeb wrote: > How does kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8 or php5-gd or pdflib fit into those > reasons you gave? A little research shows: ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/php5-gd-5.2.6_2.tbz So, there is a current package for php5-gd. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/print/pdflib/Makefile?rev=1.54 So, there will never be a package for pdflib, because we are not allowed to distibute it. Now, apparently audio/jack is not being built at the moment, but without access to my home system I can't probe any further. See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/audio/jack/Makefile?rev=1.44 and http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=jack. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:20:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039B1106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thiago528@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE39F8FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thiago528@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so33668qwb.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:20:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zadqbfnh3cRlsqS/ITBaS66kovCXR9UHvJCe4NXIA84=; b=eeDUzVevlPhAfa6AqE0E5tpjLBQf428v8VL5bzVLRvx/Wahmad9dh+bt8GXWnJOZQ9 p5/ycnsGRphd5WCQi71V8QT19TERfoBuIIV1THMA7v9zBzpJ33lZLlj4w27bqS78OzqA 254vSDUIgc6zaRS+w/oq58/ZFWsaPNX+UyXPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=FoESMGTxjbwbJQDd6glEbXWxw5+WsVIodSGhwyaDPBJzETdVj6U4XjCZ9WgGlPgnDz khTsK2O7t2GEenL7mpTUMED81PBkwVKsO4AdlGnTjCnLnrw4f1V4zt7A4ar1uCd+w18n T7HGxp4XYBtQrHK5XYPhREiF7HvO1Hdu/Yy8Q= Received: by 10.214.184.13 with SMTP id h13mr7500107qaf.13.1225293604965; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.254.9? ([189.104.144.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm17118ywf.2.2008.10.29.08.20.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Thiago R. Santos" To: Canhua In-Reply-To: References: <1225286327.6866.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:19:57 -0300 Message-Id: <1225293598.6866.17.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:06 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:41 +0800, Canhua wrote: > Wonderful place~ thank you > > However I could not pkg_add py25-networkx still, being told that > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py25-networkx.tbz' > by URL Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that you wanted a package built for 7.0-RELEASE. Indeed, there isn't a package of this port built for this release, so you might want to get packages from the 'packages-7-stable' directory[1][2]. This particular port seems to have been added to the ports tree after the release of FreeBSD 7.0. Of course, you can build it yourself from your ports tree. [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html [2]ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/ -- Thiago R. Santos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:22:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A97B1065689; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AC38FC08; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 820898C0D4; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:22:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:22:36 -0500 To: mdh Message-ID: <20081029152236.GE6191@soaustin.net> References: <257377.83845.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <257377.83845.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:22:37 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:55:20AM -0700, mdh wrote: > email the FreeBSD Foundation and find out how much cash it'd take for > additional hardware to make that a reality, then send them that much cash. We are actually set up ok on amd64 machines right now (incremental package builds take just over a day). We are in the process of adding some more i386 machines (it is a matter of configuration; however, most of these are not really powerful machines). This should help get the incremental builds down from 3-4 days to 2-3 days. We also have some sparc64 machines that are on loan to us, which I am also in the process of configuration, but these are only UltraSPARC-II machines. There seems to be some work going on right now to get us running on US-III machines; if so, then it would be handy to get some of them. In the meantime, sparc64 package builds take more than 2 weeks :-( mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:23:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF651065677 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC818FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so18772qba.35 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:23:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7qZd050BVyybwr7mo3kRTbNvLDtSAwSfC6not1axvGc=; b=svSY2BVU2V662qOSC/nNRXpydhaIwxn29J7lsRYhasn1i+XDudH6tmib1pswGvJ8Rx TWuZtF/klDsAv7mdF+ORsM94DANXGcrckr4XJzRHwdQ7dECSATwRcOPUEpBhVL50bkcl jzz23KbOxuLwBEPPsRDRsh5SZ5vrkWyxcSJpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lDgmOZk/+2pk4PrgPWaVpB07dbWe88fID/vEL6R/t5+Ks+DJYT/vdfcT/F4kwtPSLr AM8wWWB+amaSfoJMhEdnYY1lggfuoVCP5HSllVkDguHg8Q7EmMy6apDANr+au7fAeuPX GGQflLTlH6h/l4TDceVkF1g75exjrW+B/C7Pk= Received: by 10.210.22.16 with SMTP id 16mr10161680ebv.69.1225293821652; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.101? (bl4-51-47.dsl.telepac.pt [81.193.51.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm54641ikz.2.2008.10.29.08.23.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49087FF9.90507@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:37 +0000 From: pwn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrew clarke References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029145534.GA78317@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20081029145534.GA78317@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:43 -0000 andrew clarke escreveu: > On Wed 2008-10-29 13:43:23 UTC+0000, pwn (pwnedomina@gmail.com) wrote: > > >> immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be >> performed by order >> 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel >> 2 - The Cutting Edge >> 3 - Updating FreeBSD >> >> Is this the proper order? >> there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? >> since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be >> followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if >> possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of >> the operating system and the installation of new applications without >> conflicts or problems with ports. >> > > Re: Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel. Depending on your hardware and > software requirements you may need to configure the supplied GENERIC > kernel, or perhaps even build your own custom kernel and configure > that. These days I think many people just use the GENERIC kernel and > configure it from /boot/loader.conf. For a desktop machine it may > just be a single entry to load a kernel module for your sound card. > > If you do use a GENERIC kernel this has the advantage that you can run > freebsd-update whenever there are important security updates to the > kernel itself, and then those updates become immediately active after > a reboot. There is no need to rebuild the kernel, and very little > downtime. > > Re: The Cutting Edge. In simple terms I would not bother with any of > this unless you want to be actively involved in the development of the > operating system. If you just want something that works reliably, > stick with FreeBSD-RELEASE and use freebsd-update when you want to > upgrade your FreeBSD version (eg. from 6.3 to 6.4). freebsd-update is > brilliant and really makes updating fairly painless. Which leads me > to... > > Re: Updating FreeBSD. Every FreeBSD sysadmin should read this. You > should know how to install packages from the command-line using > pkg_add (see the section called Installing Applications: Packages and > Ports), and if you want to use the Ports system, learn how to use > portsnap (another brilliant tool). > > Also, if you're using the Ports system (to build and install software > from source code) I also recommend using portmaster, which isn't > talked about in the Handbook, but is leaps and bounds over portupgrade > (my personal opinion). > > >> thank you. >> > > Regards > Andrew > Andrew, nice answer very enlightening, the steps you mention im already familiar with them. at this moment im using a customised kernel, FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE and all ports tree updated, i just want to know the ascending order that should be followed after an installation, thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:36:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9583B1065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene2.itea.ntnu.no (bene2.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D5C8FC22 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene2.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00F190001 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:36:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene2.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 955EE90002 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:36:33 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 5814 invoked by uid 88); 29 Oct 2008 16:33:40 +0100 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:33:40 +0100 Message-ID: <490882C7.7070608@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:35:35 +0100 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bofh42 References: <1224949102.29464.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1224949102.29464.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene2.itea.ntnu.no Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:36:38 -0000 bofh42 wrote: > > [root@weld:~]$ dhcpcd -n eth0 > > eth0: dhcpcd 4.0.2 starting > > eth0: broadcasting for a lease > > eth0: offered 10.0.0.176 from 10.0.1.1 `mirrorball' > > eth0: checking 10.0.0.176 is available on attached networks > > > > Are you sure you are using the correct command to start the DHCP > client? > > I'm not familiar with Archlinux, but on Debian linux the command > you > need is dhclient. On the other hand, dhcpd starts the dhcp > *server* Yes, I'm sure. Notice the extra "c" in there. I'm using the DHCP client deamon. That is, a client that runs in the background keeping my DCHP lease up to speed. The -n option will cause it to signal a renewal. Also, I get similar results if I use the dhclient utility instead of dhcpcd. But thanks for your suggestion! sv. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:41:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06681065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B198FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TFf3Q3036267; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:41:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:01:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <44ljw7eig5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44ljw7eig5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810291101.29795.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:41:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8537/Wed Oct 29 09:26:33 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Franck Royer Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:11 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Franck Royer writes: > > > Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? How > > can I access to my fifth partition ? > > John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still > reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing > disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I'm > not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in the > manual pages. GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8) utility you basically do: # gpt create foo0 # gpt boot foo0 The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p1. You can then add partitions: # gpt add -t ufs foo0 # newfs /dev/foo0p2 gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way to do it during installation. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:50:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73CA106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8664B8FC20 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 24924 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 15:50:28 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2008 15:50:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Grebenschikov References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:50:29 -0000 Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing flash will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall npviewer.bin' (I use nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser like nothing happened. You'll get the page -- but without the embedded flash, of course. I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) work this morning -- thanks to nox' checklist, and have not yet been able to investigate, why it hangs on occasion... -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:52:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A78B106567A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3958FC2A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so27523eyi.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=ISXVSpJguZWKTPBcS74QEXxx1t0g/3eUrjWMtz2mpkA=; b=VsYLPjzTh4etEM16SKOZj5R802If254FXoSM5wFTF4eX91jvt5b9OT3TR+3Phqs7Lz zJA6Inu2wC9U8afd+zL6Ez/hpk8lqRJiPII6pnvEIE/d/RckgMuPJhAwmH6O9cfIBGN+ kcCRM8RlgvERMIJZM9oPaVUBKzdFzfukAVvv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=kqxi6CNPJrlR3lfAdRdFmqnRwPrkmKUdGZ+tiqczGCq1gcbUzJ4Ju3ZZJd8mPogunx xPVmk9Ku6T1td1cdGvWX0apeBHMQFMMBlPByq6xh/rRkoX0ipuC9A2vqbmj4DfSMVuyJ Wm2+bX3QHBlnI/QcGNJRj4p3zzp8iiCWOVqyU= Received: by 10.210.80.17 with SMTP id d17mr10211979ebb.36.1225295541744; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.68? (host217-43-152-224.range217-43.btcentralplus.com [217.43.152.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm118493gve.5.2008.10.29.08.52.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490886B3.4070204@free.fr> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:52:19 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <44ljw7eig5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <200810291101.29795.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200810291101.29795.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Franck Royer Cc: Franck Royer , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:52:23 -0000 John Baldwin a écrit : > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> Franck Royer writes: >> >> >>> Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? How >>> can I access to my fifth partition ? >>> >> John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still >> reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing >> disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I'm >> not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in the >> manual pages. >> > > GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8) utility you > basically do: > > # gpt create foo0 > # gpt boot foo0 > > The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p1. You can > then add partitions: > > # gpt add -t ufs foo0 > # newfs /dev/foo0p2 > > gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that > sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way to do it > during installation. > > Ok thank you. But actually, it's not what I'm looking for. I use freebsd on a macbook. On this macbook, I already have a gpt, refit, mac os x and some linux partitions. The problem is freebsd, which doesn't recognize partitions after the fourth one (but my gentoo linux see them). Then, I suppose freebsd use the mbr partition table (synchronized from the gpt one using refit) to populate the /dev, but partitions after the fourth, which are those I want to use, are only indexed in the gpt. Finally, I want to force freebsd to use the gpt on my hard drive to allow it to see others partitions. I don't want to destroy my actual gpt, maybe one day, but no right now. Tell me if my english is too bad to be understood. I just want to precise that I use pcvbsd 7.0, so the kernel configuration might be different than the freebsd generic one. Thank you for your answers. Franck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:56:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F23106567B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from relay.sw.ru (mailhub.sw.ru [195.214.232.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A13E8FC21 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru ([10.30.1.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by relay.sw.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m9TFFtu6026359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:15:57 +0300 (MSK) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KvCm3-0005V9-I5; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:15:55 +0300 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: Steve Polyack In-Reply-To: <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:15:55 +0300 Message-Id: <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:56:55 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:11 -0400, Steve Polyack wrote: > Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in > native > Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional thing I > had > to do was copy > /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so into > ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. After that > Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, > but slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so > lucky > and still has problems with flash9 locking up FF. I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. After disabling it lockups disappear. Probably it is such case ? -- Vladimir B. Grebenschikov vova@fbsd.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 15:58:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3881065677 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C0B8FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 11:58:50 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KJY52049; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 11:58:21 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18696.34844.614588.620873@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:58:20 -0400 To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:58:51 -0000 Mikhail Teterin writes: > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing > flash will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall > npviewer.bin' (I use nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser > like nothing happened. You'll get the page -- but without the > embedded flash, of course. I have the same issue with SeaMonkey. The problem is that while npviewer.bin is "loading", it effectively hogs the CPU. It also chews up ~550 mb of RAM. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 16:03:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40763106568A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD158FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so53766mue.3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=e245NBTZVrmiUUFs3XtriBI7vrbtJaKZEKKl1T6Q4K0=; b=SnZ2mOKKuyVScP7osMnIp4ZbQ6tdTUk1/2aataQgrn8DCu0wTqxngb585mZ8aTyVg5 IZPatD+Ojhlsh8xW/pvAaCM7kEL8bCvMUzIkTlCq87a2uMkuiF/ljvAn3KV/gmK4YP+L V9h6+lSixX7TV1tJb714/jyWVJUFmEKB4eCWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=uRM2m/y7LI1ZT78neYYJtIBgGLdldMzzxaaU6kk/BoVHT3H0BMfSw1V09FNcTzBl+V EF107RGx+KX9yZCw+9KDjtFpe4PLVcCcvOyOQYEWW/cNaYaEzlkwWzkjwiWcxxURt2U7 JMOCONmHwNM93b4Q6w7lm1CP8y7lIvzXmviO0= Received: by 10.181.224.6 with SMTP id b6mr2454811bkr.187.1225294985597; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.231.15 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:43:05 +0000 From: "Masoom Shaikh" To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:03:14 -0000 will this howto work for amd64 ? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Steve Polyack wrote: > Juergen Lock wrote: > >> >> Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: >> (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on >> -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup to >> this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) >> >> 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC >> (the relevant MFC commits are: >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 >> - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs patches >> for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter commit can't >> be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, so flash9 >> probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP you probably >> should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP you also need to >> use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not supported with 4BSD. >> linprocfs patches for 6: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch >> >> 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC >> (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html >> ) >> >> 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . >> >> 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and dependencies >> are installed and up to date(!). (the default emulators/linux_base-fc4 >> should work, if you want to use a later one don't forget to set >> compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT >> to whichever version you use in make.conf. Note however that on 6, only >> the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 really works.) >> >> 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run >> nspluginwrapper -i >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> and restart firefox. >> >> 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of >> flash9, >> >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e000016.html >> (if you use portaudit you need to `make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' >> to be able to install the port), and fc4 seems to be eol'd too, so you >> probably want to install something like the noscript firefox extension, >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 >> and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on >> sites you trust... >> >> And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even >> on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want >> to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump >> (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying >> specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever >> signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin >> needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about >> it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. >> If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last >> few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... >> >> You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> and >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd >> /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin >> (if you see `not found' in there you know something is wrong) - although >> that doesn't show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. >> >> >> > Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in native > Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional thing I had to > do was copy /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.sointo ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. After that > Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, but > slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so lucky and still > has problems with flash9 locking up FF. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 16:06:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10771065678 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9DC8FC28 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 16509 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 16:06:21 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2008 16:06:20 -0000 Message-ID: <490889FB.6020401@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:06:19 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) To: Robert Huff References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <18696.34844.614588.620873@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18696.34844.614588.620873@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:06:21 -0000 Sent by Robert Huff: The problem is that while npviewer.bin is "loading", it effectively hogs the CPU. It also chews up ~550 mb of RAM. Well, when it all works correctly, it starts quickly for me. But when there is a problem, no amount of waiting seems enough, so I doubt, it is the question of hogging or heaviness... I have a fairly beefy machine too -- 4Opterons, 6Gb of RAM, so when things work, they work quickly. -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 16:13:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE901065680 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349698FC22 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 12:13:54 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KJY55361; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Oct 2008 12:13:33 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18696.35756.182183.382713@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:13:32 -0400 To: Mikhail Teterin In-Reply-To: <490889FB.6020401@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <18696.34844.614588.620873@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <490889FB.6020401@aldan.algebra.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:55 -0000 Mikhail Teterin writes: >> The problem is that while npviewer.bin is "loading", it >> effectively hogs the CPU. It also chews up ~550 mb of RAM. > > Well, when it all works correctly, it starts quickly for > me. But when there is a problem, no amount of waiting seems > enough, so I doubt, it is the question of hogging or > heaviness... I have a fairly beefy machine too -- 4Opterons, > 6Gb of RAM, so when things work, they work quickly. My machine (in question) is a P4 2.26ghz with 2 gb; loading takes about 60-90 seconds. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 16:53:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E371065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A098FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4DF50F1A; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:53:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9TGriKe001774; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:53:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:53:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chuck Swiger Message-Id: <20081029175344.ec0f1997.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <892FC18B-8AB6-4941-B9F1-110ECFCC2F9A@mac.com> References: <9c3cc89e0810280916q2a8ada51q8e43fbb9090d7fe2@mail.gmail.com> <892FC18B-8AB6-4941-B9F1-110ECFCC2F9A@mac.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zhenghua wang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How can I get the screenshots only under the command-line? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:48 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:32:16 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:16 AM, zhenghua wang wrote: > > I wanna get some screenshots of my command-line-only system(8- > > current),how > > can I perform this? > > Thanks a lot,looking forward to your mail. > > See "man vidcontrol", as in: > > The following command will capture the contents of the first > virtual ter- > minal, and redirect the output to the shot.scr file: > > vidcontrol -p < /dev/ttyv0 > shot.scr Another option would be to utilize the mouse edit buffer to capture screen content in "ASCII only", it requires a standard three button mouse and moused running correctly. Then you can select parts of the screen content or the whole screen using the left mouse button, then use Alt+PF2 (for example) to switch to another VT, login, start an editor (ee screen.txt) and then press the middle mouse button - the selected text will be put 1:1 into the file. Unelegang manual work, but sometimes useful (e. g. if you need screenshots for documentation purposes where a simple ASCII reproduction without colors or other attributes is needed). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 16:58:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E2A106567F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08278FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9TGtJEa008163; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:55:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9TGtJrO008162; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:55:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:55:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: pwn Message-ID: <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:27 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: > immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be > performed by order > 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel > 2 - The Cutting Edge > 3 - Updating FreeBSD > > Is this the proper order? I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports tree Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if nothing is critical, just skip that. Then, install what ports you want and start running. As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull in the latest security fixes with update. ////jerry > there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? > since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be > followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if > possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of > the operating system and the installation of new applications without > conflicts or problems with ports. > thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:18:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD22B1065696 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42E78FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9THIiDO023298; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:18:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:18:43 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810291318.43835.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:18:48 -0000 On Tuesday 28 October 2008 01:30:18 pm matt donovan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM, D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 < > laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I also had some fight with Adobe's Flash player, but unfortunately > > without success. > > I remaing curios about any solution. > > ________________________________ > > From: Mikhail Teterin > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:59:23 PM > > > > I'm having serious problems with Adobe's Flash 9 and 10 on my > > FreeBSD-7/amd64 > > system. > > > > If I try to use it directly with linux-firefox, the entire browser > > crashes quickly. If I try www/nspluginwrapper with a native browser, > > the wrapper-launched npviewer.bin seg-faults instead. Either way, the > > plugin does > > not work... > > > > It appears, there was some activity recently in trying to fix these > > problems > > (is it all in linprocfs/?) What is the current status? Thanks, > > FreeBSD 7.1 should work with flash9 myself I had no luck so far but > nox- does say it should work I just updated to RELENG_7 (aka 7.1-PRERELEASE these days) on Monday and=20 am able to use Flash 9 in native Firefox 3 with sound, no sound lag and=20 no crashes so far. I have: =46reeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 18:31:37 EDT 2008 compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.6.16 linux_base-f8-8_8 firefox-3.0.3,1 linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:30:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F933106567D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273FB8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m9THTxDO027259; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:30:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: Mikhail Teterin Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:29:58 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200810291318.43835.lists@jnielsen.net> <49089BE0.5060706@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <49089BE0.5060706@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810291329.58474.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:30:03 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 01:22:40 pm Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Sent by John Nielsen: > > I just updated to RELENG_7 (aka 7.1-PRERELEASE these days) on Monday > > and am able to use Flash 9 in native Firefox 3 with sound, no sound > > lag and no crashes so far. I have: > > > > FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 18:31:37 EDT 2008 > > compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 > > linux_base-f8-8_8 > > firefox-3.0.3,1 > > linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 > > nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 > > Congratulations. i386 or amd64, though? i386. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:37:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433F11065679 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9048FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so96793rvf.43 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:37:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=2zVsk2Kq29WqvMAc6zxiNxUnRv5DSipecnx2LXr7gRg=; b=YzYcxEx9wjStDSHcE2rAU2cqwOSoQLwSDvYO3CroX2RLiiUHORUZ+kmDicBzAHXN78 oM4kSq11MkoUjwWgqNrozy+vLIfBH9h+IZXcEx1ZJcKUw569vwkZpvsFF8WY6k375IWj F0jiyhbfXCX+8jGiu5Gv6hM0PWy5d4aLiHw9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TIO/g+mZRl/dpcDlSGtZrW/ZKkyx1JcvV+Xgv6rymqfPuzLBA485OF7BAbdG6zSbyI /Q4eprz3hh2we41GMfDPhcyLFaz4/EnK/KczqMlHJEl41Jtgrcg61a0AYpwLszOG8V4p SbNL/qk5UEGWNrAuGG3O8NMv0o5dV5rsYVJkA= Received: by 10.140.132.8 with SMTP id f8mr5033677rvd.122.1225300063962; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:07:43 -0400 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gmirror + gjournal setup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:41 -0000 Hello, I would like to know what is the best way to setup gmirror + gjournal, on a slice level on two hard drives. Do I set up a mirrored journal partition + mirrored journalized slice (gmirror on top of gjournal) on which I create my labels with bsdlabels (will create /dev/mirror/name.journal, /dev/mirror/name.journala, /dev/mirror/name.journalb). Or I setup a journalized slice on both hard drive and then I mirror /dev/ad0s1.journal and /dev/ad1s1.journal (gjournal on top of gmirror)? I have hard time to figure out what would be the best, if I want to avoid mirror rebuild on power failure and I want fast fsck. I'd also like to make this setup on my 1st slice (which contains the root filesystem). Thanks Gabriel -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:41:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05151065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DF28FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9THfBbS037214; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Franck Royer Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:32:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <200810291101.29795.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <490886B3.4070204@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <490886B3.4070204@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810291332.40102.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8537/Wed Oct 29 09:26:33 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:18 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:52:19 am Franck Royer wrote: > John Baldwin a =E9crit : > > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > =20 > >> Franck Royer writes: > >> > >> =20 > >>> Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? H= ow > >>> can I access to my fifth partition ? > >>> =20 > >> John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still > >> reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing > >> disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I'm > >> not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in the > >> manual pages. > >> =20 > > > > GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8) utility= =20 you=20 > > basically do: > > > > # gpt create foo0 > > # gpt boot foo0 > > > > The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p1. Yo= u=20 can=20 > > then add partitions: > > > > # gpt add -t ufs foo0 > > # newfs /dev/foo0p2 > > > > gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that=20 > > sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way to do = it=20 > > during installation. > > > > =20 > Ok thank you. But actually, it's not what I'm looking for. >=20 > I use freebsd on a macbook. On this macbook, I already have a gpt, > refit, mac os x and some linux partitions. The problem is freebsd, which > doesn't recognize partitions after the fourth one (but my gentoo linux > see them). >=20 > Then, I suppose freebsd use the mbr partition table (synchronized from > the gpt one using refit) to populate the /dev, but partitions after the > fourth, which are those I want to use, are only indexed in the gpt. >=20 > Finally, I want to force freebsd to use the gpt on my hard drive to > allow it to see others partitions. >=20 > I don't want to destroy my actual gpt, maybe one day, but no right now. >=20 > Tell me if my english is too bad to be understood. >=20 > I just want to precise that I use pcvbsd 7.0, so the kernel > configuration might be different than the freebsd generic one. What device entries do you see in /dev? =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:49:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E01065679 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795CB8FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (qmail 23585 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 17:22:41 -0000 Received: from aldan.algebra.com (HELO [127.0.0.1]) (mi@[216.254.65.224]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Oct 2008 17:22:41 -0000 Message-ID: <49089BE0.5060706@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:22:40 -0400 From: Mikhail Teterin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Nielsen References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <28283d910810281030u717fe81mb164c7d244123d84@mail.gmail.com> <200810291318.43835.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200810291318.43835.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:49:22 -0000 Sent by John Nielsen: > I just updated to RELENG_7 (aka 7.1-PRERELEASE these days) on Monday and > am able to use Flash 9 in native Firefox 3 with sound, no sound lag and > no crashes so far. I have: > > FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 18:31:37 EDT 2008 > compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 > linux_base-f8-8_8 > firefox-3.0.3,1 > linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 > nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 > Congratulations. i386 or amd64, though? -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:56:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560B2106567C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBEB8FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so56319qba.35 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=keXA5SCneUhdVpekrsUGKNVlE7lBRgqOhool/T+2uIs=; b=HqjNHTn+vdh3pgIKTrEoOEQ9FhBXDXScFNwnBmOynyDd318tNxt4BgF3YWEjJckUQ4 IJzJ4fZcEqR3MwMAbaPyWDZ2SZjbVjTeDsIwwOVmsO8I5sRTw5isVdujIPmra+FkJtis TipAviSh3syKBS4HRdDRhLpPk57/sehIXH1e8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QIUOGN3KO1gWGYVbH9F0yJt2roDq5JR296NlRFkPuSLq9OjvZYoxHg5kh7LfulAA2u XosJ6gvHl/nT7/srgTUVmQnAz9u5npgIItu0bqMOnj8YGhZLt9TxAiHlYrNvDJS226b1 oqt5NXBX+F1pX2LIVqq2VTKfgKc2nj1f2+jDg= Received: by 10.210.71.13 with SMTP id t13mr10369145eba.8.1225302965716; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.101? ([81.193.51.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b33sm446180ika.1.2008.10.29.10.56.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:56:01 +0000 From: pwn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:56:07 -0000 Jerry McAllister escreveu: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: > > >> immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be >> performed by order >> 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel >> 2 - The Cutting Edge >> 3 - Updating FreeBSD >> >> Is this the proper order? >> > > I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. > Then update the ports tree > Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if > nothing is critical, just skip that. > > Then, install what ports you want and start running. > > As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? > If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then > do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't > do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull > in the latest security fixes with update. > > > ////jerry > just to clarify I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports tree Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example) As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is enought. > >> there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? >> since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be >> followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if >> possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of >> the operating system and the installation of new applications without >> conflicts or problems with ports. >> thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:00:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315E61065673; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2CE8FC1B; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9TI0K28026734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:00:21 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TI0Km9095403; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:00:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9TI0JTi095402; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:00:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:00:19 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20081029180019.GS1137@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <257377.83845.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20081029152236.GE6191@soaustin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q5r20fdKX+PFtYHw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081029152236.GE6191@soaustin.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:00:24 -0000 --q5r20fdKX+PFtYHw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Oct-29 10:22:36 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: >We also have some sparc64 machines that are on loan to us, which I am >also in the process of configuration, but these are only UltraSPARC-II >machines. There seems to be some work going on right now to get us >running on US-III machines; if so, then it would be handy to get some of >them. In the meantime, sparc64 package builds take more than 2 weeks :-( Since sparc64 userland will run on sun4v (similar to using (eg) Pentium userland on a Pentium-4 CPU), the other option is to invest some resources in the sun4v port and build sparc64 packages on a sun4v cluster. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --q5r20fdKX+PFtYHw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIpLMACgkQ/opHv/APuIeX8gCgn3beoDlT/7pkWDalptRHa9o3 6qcAoIkFP/lHxrEoyvnXKJkuO9hq1mFO =I5Z1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q5r20fdKX+PFtYHw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:01:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220701065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05688FC20 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so71523nfh.33 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=C4fsarP5Sli1PMi7xtBbQ6yWtsxbDFlneVkvV4WR9hI=; b=AjQ46N81z/i/XaR3SboydDlwe5du371brmoaJup3iZNjFF37gZaR3oxj7EN7wFAaM8 Do/v/+cJGrig9OE+sXvS7baxUliVb3T8hbRcJANoYM6CP7TxroBdZ7aJt6WDKR59/iZr ENwYw9uRe1lD80X2+/Uo/u5Iqzr9OD1aRKFNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=KTXXiVe/zhfNKQFMq9TkossQ/W72tfkv4Gw1+KbkYNy/zE2+KLCJysdnAkOxtajCMs 9K1yyfCNBYSLKQiCwi1oxSwtLXdJiF2H31/Pgom0yPvyFUFE4iqIHwChGline1Fkl/lp 5teOlef31Tbk+G99UcExRWMKmkY/RnWKdawZU= Received: by 10.86.82.6 with SMTP id f6mr6039672fgb.52.1225303302206; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810291101n3a051842k511615b3cba4bbd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:01:41 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "John Nielsen" In-Reply-To: <200810291329.58474.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <925464.64030.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200810291318.43835.lists@jnielsen.net> <49089BE0.5060706@aldan.algebra.com> <200810291329.58474.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash-9, 10 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:01:44 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, John Nielsen wrote: > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 01:22:40 pm Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > Sent by John Nielsen: > > > I just updated to RELENG_7 (aka 7.1-PRERELEASE these days) on Monday > > > and am able to use Flash 9 in native Firefox 3 with sound, no sound > > > lag and no crashes so far. I have: > > > > > > FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 18:31:37 EDT 2008 > > > compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 > > > linux_base-f8-8_8 > > > firefox-3.0.3,1 > > > linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 > > > nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 > > > > Congratulations. i386 or amd64, though? > > i386. > > JN > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > for me firefox3 native crashes regularly with flash9, but works fine using linux-firefox which I will be using I believe for quite a while. I m still using linux_base-fc4 though From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:05:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E11106567F; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout4.freenet.de (mout4.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E68F8FC19; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.11] (helo=1.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KvFQY-0008RR-KN; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:05:54 +0100 Received: from mae69.m.pppool.de ([89.49.174.105]:33542 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 1.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #68) id 1KvFQY-0006rq-Cm; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:05:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:05:51 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Vladimir Grebenschikov , freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:05:59 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing flash > will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall npviewer.bin' (I use > nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser like nothing happened. You'll > get the page -- but without the embedded flash, of course. > I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) work this morning -- thanks to > nox' checklist, and have not yet been able to investigate, why it hangs > on occasion... > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed on both systems. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:10:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C901065689 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E978FC26 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so59512qba.35 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.22.8 with SMTP id 8mr10384021ebv.46.1225303837235; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm464745gvf.7.2008.10.29.11.10.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4908A71C.9050104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:10:36 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: no reverse dns X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:10:39 -0000 We have just moved offices and our freebsd machine has started complaining in the following terms Oct 29 17:14:39 int kernel: arplookup ww.xx.yy.zz failed: host is not on local network We have an external router connected as a dhcp server at 192.168.0.2 which apparently has external address ww.xx.yy.zz. I am using a fixed ip address ie 192.168.0.6 I have this in my rc.conf defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" hostname="int.myoffice.com" ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" and have dns mapping int.myoffice.com --> ww.xx.yy.zz, but our ISP will not make the reverse mapping. I assume that we're trying to reverse lookup something and the lack of reverse dns is causing this issue. What can I add to my rc.conf to stop this arplookup problem? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:14:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDC81065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0DD8FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9TIBnSj008514; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:11:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9TIBnci008513; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:11:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:11:49 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: pwn Message-ID: <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:14:57 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:56:01PM +0000, pwn wrote: > Jerry McAllister escreveu: > >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: > > > > > >>immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be > >>performed by order > >>1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel > >>2 - The Cutting Edge > >>3 - Updating FreeBSD > >> > >>Is this the proper order? > >> > > > >I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. > >Then update the ports tree > >Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if > >nothing is critical, just skip that. > > > >Then, install what ports you want and start running. > > > >As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? > >If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then > >do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't > >do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull > >in the latest security fixes with update. > > > > > >////jerry > > > > > just to clarify > > I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports > tree > Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples > provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ Yup. That is what I use. > > Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel > Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example) Unless you are running something where absolute maximum performance is critical, don't bother removing things from the kernel. Just limit customizing to adding those things you need that are not in by default - some drivers, maybe. > > As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? > Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is > enought. > So, yup. You seem to have it. ////jerry > > > > > > >>there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? > >>since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be > >>followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if > >>possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of > >>the operating system and the installation of new applications without > >>conflicts or problems with ports. > >>thank you. > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:14:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826F61065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A02A8FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so74301nfh.33 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PI46QuNxs24cdd4aSAxXnupUfp1C6pyqZGW/N1Q4E54=; b=QC7N2/bn1F4SEiy3DvSIO9JO16BL+vvTCfCU7ZYoAr89bEF3OV6vAXKklW+FEGzM1f v9eKX0udVVD9M05YZWX9SGlGjQyA0id3TJO/Wwwh8suVypI/rFp1MQ3dZ6HvFijWuRqx T1++XLASPKoeA4bRZbg2Xeo08aGCGounDYHhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=QBg7yQx0jEhBhY44ElY843u43qYJT+KhxFxe+i7hIFQKEmTDnTKX5Gpt5VDiIJmYfk x2bbjN4AWW6yFz+WOHKkLeG0Gdzv8r1CxH7ePiCU7Di6v4U0JEkRlBPY6XP6uhskwFsx NaN7Yob8OvhDcSGeb68lr//D5fiyfab4hAa08= Received: by 10.86.92.4 with SMTP id p4mr6051243fgb.36.1225303895231; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810291111g640497bfs2ea211aa0bf14586@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:11:35 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de In-Reply-To: <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:19:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Vladimir Grebenschikov , Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:14:26 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 > Mikhail Teterin > > wrote: > > > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. > > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing flash > > will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall npviewer.bin' (I use > > nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser like nothing happened. You'll > > get the page -- but without the embedded flash, of course. > > I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) work this morning -- thanks to > > nox' checklist, and have not yet been able to investigate, why it hangs > > on occasion... > > > > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed > on both systems. > > --- > Gary Jennejohn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > the issue seems to be with native firefox3 if you guys use it since I have native firefox3 and linux-firefox whihc is 2.0.0.17 and the linux-firefox seems to work fine but the native firefox3 the npviewer.bin just hogs memory and cpu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:33:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5667C1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout016.mac.com (asmtpout016.mac.com [17.148.16.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487AB8FC30 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:33:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp016.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9I007HUJJ0BE20@asmtp016.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Robin Becker In-reply-to: <4908A71C.9050104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:33:00 -0700 References: <4908A71C.9050104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no reverse dns X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:33:32 -0000 On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > We have just moved offices and our freebsd machine has started > complaining in the following terms > > Oct 29 17:14:39 int kernel: arplookup ww.xx.yy.zz failed: host is > not on local network > > We have an external router connected as a dhcp server at 192.168.0.2 > which apparently has external address ww.xx.yy.zz. I am using a > fixed ip address ie > > 192.168.0.6 > > I have this in my rc.conf > > defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" > hostname="int.myoffice.com" > ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > and have dns mapping int.myoffice.com --> ww.xx.yy.zz, If you tell the machine that it is int.myoffice.com and you set up DNS which claims that hostname has an external IP, it will be sad because it doesn't know how to reach that IP. You can use DNS split-horizon / views to return the internal IP when the machine asks, or simply keep your external and internal names separate. Ie, set up DNS like: int.myoffice.com A 192.168.0.6 ext.myoffice.com A ww.xx.yy.zz Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 18:39:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3EB1065677 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5631B8FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f30so66062qba.35 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NyjQDEt0WVqVLbC1qhcZ+e0U2Z7xZkhqGz8Q1nSn2Xc=; b=a3nn68tlxsnqxMSj2RKvNY8+afRN8wCxiZ40dYd0RgTwkMU82wEeDMUjzLoPLVz/8i 6ZfeN55a5t4t3yj0cAgNWmU9/cq0OE5P+R/EvXatJN4DaZoFObK48jgl2gAg7tHRrXhJ R3a0qSG2hI6O24saOP6eElTAl92m1+/Pzf8XM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tv3MIyApYT+q+ykx4XGuYpUg/LdqBa+epqRSzZtg11gMQgfW9H0zqK8K1rRuMOp8Gp FwKe7RinjjyOHNTLncBsB5kBmnjFSMcxO0+Epa89oGtl6SYXyB6iWTimmChahSuxqieF mT+SmFm1R1wZGvxKWb8OLe/LPZpgC1c2J0O0Y= Received: by 10.210.46.4 with SMTP id t4mr10419255ebt.49.1225305559885; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.101? ([81.193.51.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm1439118nfu.24.2008.10.29.11.39.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4908ADD4.90000@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:39:16 +0000 From: pwn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:39:21 -0000 Jerry McAllister escreveu: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:56:01PM +0000, pwn wrote: > > >> Jerry McAllister escreveu: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be >>>> performed by order >>>> 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel >>>> 2 - The Cutting Edge >>>> 3 - Updating FreeBSD >>>> >>>> Is this the proper order? >>>> >>>> >>> I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. >>> Then update the ports tree >>> Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if >>> nothing is critical, just skip that. >>> >>> Then, install what ports you want and start running. >>> >>> As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? >>> If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then >>> do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't >>> do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull >>> in the latest security fixes with update. >>> >>> >>> ////jerry >>> >>> >> just to clarify >> >> I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports >> tree >> Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples >> provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ >> > > Yup. That is what I use. > > >> Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel >> Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example) >> > > Unless you are running something where absolute maximum performance > is critical, don't bother removing things from the kernel. Just > limit customizing to adding those things you need that are not > in by default - some drivers, maybe. > > >> As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? >> Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is >> enought. >> >> > > So, yup. You seem to have it. > > ////jerry > on this page http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html it says: Tip: By default, when you build a custom kernel, all kernel modules will be rebuilt as well. If you want to update a kernel faster or to build only custom modules, you should edit /etc/make.conf before starting to build the kernel: isnt enought editing the configuration file? part of the devices listed there use modules that do not interest me which can i delete or comment, why the use of /etc/make.conf ? also, its possible to automate all this pos-installation tasks in order to get things running fast and optimized? (i know /etc/make.conf can be used for this) but there are other methods that require spendless time? > >> >> >>> >>> >>>> there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? >>>> since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be >>>> followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if >>>> possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of >>>> the operating system and the installation of new applications without >>>> conflicts or problems with ports. >>>> thank you. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:01:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C473A1065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from poppanecktie@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C74A8FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from poppanecktie@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so50455ywe.13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=LXUR2DSAVJIoVIwoCuvy0STT3zZvRZ/9vAZGctpl11M=; b=mCo4QPz3CMybC6Qyh9TiO9Ktftug+sW+YI6d8C5rORvhE2jxXaFbAi4EwVwbkgJhxD EqhxZd6bgz0YGATkRUGCDvBiFoBJXNLFvc778BX9ItT1rZsYoSFkZljx/NGj1KnbJQrL JuzCJF7do+t1Ge2Tx/XDL/ZooJPyuj/6fNI9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GKuXKepBnJEseaOn4lX6GyCIfSh4wRCNIm5Mx6Rn0Jq30YiTpB8yVD/6H+EMtkIx7O 3MlMrMfkvKv6FRRRbqsLP3wf2e8ndS+VdpMldIpgn67F8B5LIF5jUUdN7UmP4Ziv8ml2 Ig/LSNiLe7zxMvw6Vm+dzBqSh8dRauDyILewY= Received: by 10.142.171.9 with SMTP id t9mr4152678wfe.341.1225305114108; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.10.6 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9f3798c00810291131i7f968cdbl7520bbd81139a172@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:31:54 -0700 From: "Rich Fairbanks" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Filesystem, RAID questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:01:47 -0000 Hi, I'm new to FreeBSD (and UNIX in general), and I have read through the handbook and various websites to gain some insight on this question, but haven't found a concrete solution yet, and I'm hoping you guys can help. I'm wanting to build a FreeBSD 7.0 based file server for a small/medium company that I work for and I've got the box up and running, samba is working fine, the only problem that I can see is that the array that I installed (3ware 9650SE) with 3 WD 1TB SATA drives in RAID 5 seems to be performing very slowly. This isn't just an issue of slow access over the network for the Windows users, but when I transfer a few GB from directory to directory on the array, or from the system disk to the array or vice versa. Now, this is how I set up the array. I installed the card, popped in the drives. The card bios found the drives and allowed me to setup in RAID 5. Then, FreeBSD booted and found the "disk" as da0. I want the entire array to be one big chunk of space. In other words, I don't need a bunch of slices or partitions (or DO I? I'm still very new to the whole slice vs. partition concept) I typed newfs /dev/da0 . A ton of numbers went across the screen, then I mounted /dev/da0 at /usr/home/storage. It works, but perhaps I missed a step that would have made things easier/perform better, etc. Besides creating the file system a different way, what would be an optimum stripe size for the array? I will using this for storing, basically, a TON of word documents and email messages, and a few large .pst files. So, the average file size will be in the 25-100K range, but a few 1-2GB files. Thanks for ANY and all help. If this question has been asked and answered a million times, please forgive me and just point me to the place where I can read up on this issue. Thanks, RF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:07:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A391065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from poppanecktie@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6268FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from poppanecktie@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so98675rne.12 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:07:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=qpYGmMBaOonrm97VGNcMIf7ATD2KHUJEFt3zZWi+qmg=; b=opR4GpLeSP5epEJMIHqqr8eLobvLRwauzDPslP9ZLyC5yl+79qPwL42S7PFPEkc/nI JUN0rJnOFh/7dd7HW7pQJnVjUOfoUjfPCMLKlENytIAreC790xLCPatcBLc0waby8VOR FsTSHPcSuvmc07vu/oiwMRA3g0kPwyNMnN7fM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mJQYwyqS3IpWRTaVHyHBYYffXuQlBIQj5I8U8f9jbN3Fk16AyA8GGDaG2PLMVNt5k8 qdOYmUnvNXCXWFtjFYQxbywUGUXjLfs2aSbICXA9Ysfs7Ucyvwv0J2N2KMXH2xLTci6L ON44KLZGb1D5CzInujuW+3W3K725saTYIdrw8= Received: by 10.142.174.8 with SMTP id w8mr4171755wfe.33.1225304326202; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.10.6 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:18:45 -0700 From: "Rich Fairbanks" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:07:24 -0000 Hi, I'm new to FreeBSD (and UNIX in general), and I have read through the handbook and various websites to gain some insight on this question, but haven't found a concrete solution yet, and I'm hoping you guys can help. I'm wanting to build a FreeBSD 7.0 based file server for a small/medium company that I work for and I've got the box up and running, samba is working fine, the only problem that I can see is that the array that I installed (3ware 9650SE) with 3 WD 1TB SATA drives in RAID 5 seems to be performing very slowly. This isn't just an issue of slow access over the network for the Windows users, but when I transfer a few GB from directory to directory on the array, or from the system disk to the array or vice versa. Now, this is how I set up the array. I installed the card, popped in the drives. The card bios found the drives and allowed me to setup in RAID 5. Then, FreeBSD booted and found the "disk" as da0. I want the entire array to be one big chunk of space. In other words, I don't need a bunch of slices or partitions (or DO I? I'm still very new to the whole slice vs. partition concept) I typed newfs /dev/da0 . A ton of numbers went across the screen, then I mounted /dev/da0 at /usr/home/storage. It works, but perhaps I missed a step that would have made things easier/perform better, etc. Besides creating the file system a different way, what would be an optimum stripe size for the array? I will using this for storing, basically, a TON of word documents and email messages, and a few large .pst files. So, the average file size will be in the 25-100K range, but a few 1-2GB files. Thanks for ANY and all help. If this question has been asked and answered a million times, please forgive me and just point me to the place where I can read up on this issue. Thanks, RF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:11:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AA8106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688508FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9TJ8Yxe008713; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9TJ8YOq008712; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:08:34 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: pwn Message-ID: <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908ADD4.90000@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908ADD4.90000@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:11:42 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 06:39:16PM +0000, pwn wrote: > Jerry McAllister escreveu: > >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:56:01PM +0000, pwn wrote: > > > > > >>Jerry McAllister escreveu: > >> > >>>On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be > >>>>performed by order > >>>>1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel > >>>>2 - The Cutting Edge > >>>>3 - Updating FreeBSD > >>>> > >>>>Is this the proper order? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. > >>>Then update the ports tree > >>>Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if > >>>nothing is critical, just skip that. > >>> > >>>Then, install what ports you want and start running. > >>> > >>>As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? > >>>If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then > >>>do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't > >>>do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull > >>>in the latest security fixes with update. > >>> > >>> > >>>////jerry > >>> > >>> > >>just to clarify > >> > >>I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports > >>tree > >>Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples > >>provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ > >> > > > >Yup. That is what I use. > > > > > >>Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel > >>Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example) > >> > > > >Unless you are running something where absolute maximum performance > >is critical, don't bother removing things from the kernel. Just > >limit customizing to adding those things you need that are not > >in by default - some drivers, maybe. > > > > > >>As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? > >>Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is > >>enought. > >> > >> > > > >So, yup. You seem to have it. > > > >////jerry > > > on this page > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > it says: > Tip: By default, when you build a custom kernel, all kernel modules will > be rebuilt as well. If you want to update a kernel faster or to build > only custom modules, you should edit /etc/make.conf before starting to > build the kernel: It would take more time to edit /etc/make.conf than you would save in the kernel build. If you are doing lots of kernel builds while doing development, maybe then this would be worthwhile, but kernel builds do not take enough time on modern machines to bother speeding them up trivial amounts. Basically, this is saying you can fix things up so that it only builds those modules that you are changing when you do a rebuild and skips the others. This is not relevant to general system performance, just kernel builds. ////jerry > > isnt enought editing the configuration file? part of the devices listed > there use modules that do not interest me which can i delete or comment, > why the use of /etc/make.conf ? > also, its possible to automate all this pos-installation tasks in order > to get things running fast and optimized? (i know /etc/make.conf can be > used for this) but there are other methods that require spendless time? > > > > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>>there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? > >>>>since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be > >>>>followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if > >>>>possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of > >>>>the operating system and the installation of new applications without > >>>>conflicts or problems with ports. > >>>>thank you. > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:19:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0801065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: from 27.mail-out.ovh.net (27.mail-out.ovh.net [91.121.30.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBC3D8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maciej@suszko.eu) Received: (qmail 26577 invoked by uid 503); 29 Oct 2008 19:55:11 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail38.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 27.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 19:55:11 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 18:52:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (maciej@suszko.eu@62.61.57.118) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 18:52:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:52:13 +0100 From: Maciej Suszko To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de Message-ID: <20081029195213.795a169f@suszko.eu> In-Reply-To: <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/0sxgHVb4TAH9wbD8kc44/e6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 12742653671822680225 X-Ovh-Remote: 62.61.57.118 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:19:03 -0000 --Sig_/0sxgHVb4TAH9wbD8kc44/e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 > Mikhail Teterin wrote: >=20 > > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. > > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing > > flash will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall > > npviewer.bin' (I use nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser > > like nothing happened. You'll get the page -- but without the > > embedded flash, of course. I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) > > work this morning -- thanks to nox' checklist, and have not yet > > been able to investigate, why it hangs on occasion... > >=20 >=20 > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox > installed on both systems. I can't confirm that - I just disabled flashblock and currently watching some videos from site you have problems with. Saying more - I'm clicking on different flash-sites over 1 hour with flashblock disabled and my FF (3.0.3,1) didn't hang. I'm using yesterday's build of 7.0-PRERELEASE with latest available linux-flashplugin9 port. I also can't confirm that it's not going to crash ;-) --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/0sxgHVb4TAH9wbD8kc44/e6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIsN0ACgkQCikUk0l7iGrPeQCfRm7vyUMxxvh87BWxw3x6erKq yfMAoIPRleKBa9YByImd+HrvxlSuqQPg =29rb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/0sxgHVb4TAH9wbD8kc44/e6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:28:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C310E1065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509158FC20 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so75219eyi.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mCZ+FVzOsSp3IJ79oC1q0hn+0fk5J2qRLUuEIdqEXwo=; b=td45byYO3d8eg2lBGDBrBz90jXBgDTNYlpAIRGZl7m9fmyFwfhqNKzM60YBbk9pRhF YjkVHBj3GlEBvibJ4EFmmgW31SB6vn83BhoHj9/UVOZWwIoj6hPyS2IRCRTDqmkI3/Gy 515dpqR6hkolTFHr04iplnzJwgK7vMZtvTOSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y0T8Veb4nHbE6v7nU+xiCelvzP6alCclDLOtnCFjk8N9LzCgN63mOuYUqZQvAcy1IR ZXi12CYblla8vHHvWHSYQa7/3NXodEDfBCmbfFaPg2j6p9VTApMKspacS9klxqqJjbHP Nft3z4VHinFeAmUJFReo+aW5C/RvBed1FWSpE= Received: by 10.210.68.17 with SMTP id q17mr10459980eba.181.1225308505953; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.101? ([81.193.51.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3sm311253nfh.2.2008.10.29.12.28.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4908B955.4050409@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:21 +0000 From: pwn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908ADD4.90000@gmail.com> <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:27 -0000 Jerry McAllister escreveu: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 06:39:16PM +0000, pwn wrote: > > >> Jerry McAllister escreveu: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:56:01PM +0000, pwn wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Jerry McAllister escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be >>>>>> performed by order >>>>>> 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel >>>>>> 2 - The Cutting Edge >>>>>> 3 - Updating FreeBSD >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this the proper order? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. >>>>> Then update the ports tree >>>>> Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if >>>>> nothing is critical, just skip that. >>>>> >>>>> Then, install what ports you want and start running. >>>>> >>>>> As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? >>>>> If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then >>>>> do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't >>>>> do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull >>>>> in the latest security fixes with update. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ////jerry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> just to clarify >>>> >>>> I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports >>>> tree >>>> Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples >>>> provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ >>>> >>>> >>> Yup. That is what I use. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel >>>> Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example) >>>> >>>> >>> Unless you are running something where absolute maximum performance >>> is critical, don't bother removing things from the kernel. Just >>> limit customizing to adding those things you need that are not >>> in by default - some drivers, maybe. >>> >>> >>> >>>> As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? >>>> Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is >>>> enought. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> So, yup. You seem to have it. >>> >>> ////jerry >>> >>> >> on this page >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html >> it says: >> Tip: By default, when you build a custom kernel, all kernel modules will >> be rebuilt as well. If you want to update a kernel faster or to build >> only custom modules, you should edit /etc/make.conf before starting to >> build the kernel: >> > > It would take more time to edit /etc/make.conf than you would > save in the kernel build. If you are doing lots of kernel > builds while doing development, maybe then this would be worthwhile, > but kernel builds do not take enough time on modern machines to > bother speeding them up trivial amounts. Basically, this is > saying you can fix things up so that it only builds those modules > that you are changing when you do a rebuild and skips the others. > > This is not relevant to general system performance, just kernel > builds. > > ////jerry > i got it =), although, imho kernel builds always affect system performance.(maybe not in general) i was just asking myself a away for simplify at extreme this tasks that sometime can take many time, i guess after configure FreeBSD on a machine i should copy some configuration files like, /etc/make.conf and a custom kernel in attempt to avoid repetitive tasks. > >> isnt enought editing the configuration file? part of the devices listed >> there use modules that do not interest me which can i delete or comment, >> why the use of /etc/make.conf ? >> also, its possible to automate all this pos-installation tasks in order >> to get things running fast and optimized? (i know /etc/make.conf can be >> used for this) but there are other methods that require spendless time? >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? >>>>>> since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be >>>>>> followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if >>>>>> possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of >>>>>> the operating system and the installation of new applications without >>>>>> conflicts or problems with ports. >>>>>> thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:32:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE5F106568C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru) Received: from contrabass.post.ru (contrabass.post.ru [85.21.78.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2C68FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru) Received: from corbina.ru (mail.post.ru [195.14.50.16]) by contrabass.post.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C575E02C; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:39 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Uf39PSi9pFi9oFi9 Received: from dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru ([78.107.232.239] verified) by corbina.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPS id 1405703071; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:39 +0300 Received: from dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru (localhost.chd.net [127.0.0.1]) by dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TJ2cfd081116; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:38 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from root@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9TJ2WTJ081115; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:32 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from root) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:02:32 +0300 From: Chagin Dmitry To: Gary Jennejohn Message-ID: <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:32:04 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:05:51PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 > Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. > > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing flash > > will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall npviewer.bin' (I use > > nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser like nothing happened. You'll > > get the page -- but without the embedded flash, of course. > > I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) work this morning -- thanks to > > nox' checklist, and have not yet been able to investigate, why it hangs > > on occasion... > > > > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just Hi, yes, I can confirm. thnx! > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed > on both systems. > -- Have fun! chd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:35:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97E31065688 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from nov.smartt.com (nov.smartt.com [69.31.173.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED388FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from [69.31.174.220] ([69.31.174.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by nov.smartt.com (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m9TJZRwK008258; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:35:27 -0700 Message-ID: <4908BB02.8080508@smartt.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:35:30 -0700 From: Chris St Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Fairbanks References: <9f3798c00810291131i7f968cdbl7520bbd81139a172@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f3798c00810291131i7f968cdbl7520bbd81139a172@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on nov.smartt.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:35:28 -0000 At 1TB the drive will take very long to fsck if the server ever crashes or looses power. If this is a problem you should look into using gjournal(8) Not sure off hand why it would be so slow, but keep in mind raid5 isn't particularly fast for writes Rich Fairbanks wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to FreeBSD (and UNIX in general), and I have read through the > handbook and various websites to gain some insight on this question, but > haven't found a concrete solution yet, and I'm hoping you guys can help. > > I'm wanting to build a FreeBSD 7.0 based file server for a small/medium > company that I work for and I've got the box up and running, samba is > working fine, the only problem that I can see is that the array that I > installed (3ware 9650SE) with 3 WD 1TB SATA drives in RAID 5 seems to be > performing very slowly. This isn't just an issue of slow access over the > network for the Windows users, but when I transfer a few GB from directory > to directory on the array, or from the system disk to the array or vice > versa. > > Now, this is how I set up the array. I installed the card, popped in the > drives. The card bios found the drives and allowed me to setup in RAID 5. > Then, FreeBSD booted and found the "disk" as da0. I want the entire array to > be one big chunk of space. In other words, I don't need a bunch of slices or > partitions (or DO I? I'm still very new to the whole slice vs. partition > concept) > > I typed newfs /dev/da0 . A ton of numbers went across the screen, then I > mounted /dev/da0 at /usr/home/storage. It works, but perhaps I missed a step > that would have made things easier/perform better, etc. > > Besides creating the file system a different way, what would be an optimum > stripe size for the array? I will using this for storing, basically, a TON > of word documents and email messages, and a few large .pst files. So, the > average file size will be in the 25-100K range, but a few 1-2GB files. > > Thanks for ANY and all help. If this question has been asked and answered a > million times, please forgive me and just point me to the place where I can > read up on this issue. > > Thanks, > > RF > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:37:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B780B1065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71B58FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.246]) by bay0-omc3-s14.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:37:15 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:37:15 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:37:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:37:11 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 19:37:15.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF285390:01C939FD] Subject: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:37:15 -0000 freebsd-update fetch fails if the default "ServerName update.FreeBSD.org" is not changed to "ServerName update1.FreeBSD.org" in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. This happens on at least 6.3, I believe it is also the case in later versions but am unsure (7-RELEASE and later kill my networking card due to a kernel regression). I am wanting input before writing up a PR, to see if in fact I am just some isolated case, or if it has been fixed already in newer versions. uname -a: FreeBSD thinkpad.lan 6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct 1 05:34:19 UTC 2008 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Nonfunctional: thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update.FreeBSD.org/6.3-RELEASE/i386/latest.ssl: No address record failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. With update1: thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... latest.ssl 100% of 512 B 123 kBps done. Fetching metadata index... 344cfb64472cacb781688b5de744795f140233e84105c4100% of 225 B 52 kBps done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:46:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F911065679 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D349F8FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so684442ugs.39 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:46:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9m5Ybw4TVs+zDatblxRL94fngLTJf0RubbYldFJC/vY=; b=rLT2G3W9ZumJd73lOerkph5cjf9rL65T/st/dN4fMYQvhBzFx07ePcFC5T4MBUzKAp q7m5psT94anokiU2SNKjjShu0QNd3uNthJ2QceD6QvDjb0TPyoqT9OmDlv0mhRj7xUIS 2/EX4+L5G3gfZ4QDQh+Fhh/OnhoP8qdJc7eSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=io91aEY2nbT7A9fLZEmuAE45eWSNyPOBEPTC3vH1p40tcS5JACITb9Gh0Fs1UGRbJ4 l5fIE9MFw8/VqcizriBKMXOdHA3OS1RQGbRIL3n3DKfcTA7Odz7rYt3IzfucMKFhpbDu OJJlbArllGAYxrjeOF7FAa9Eng3oZFDdQDMVk= Received: by 10.86.51.10 with SMTP id y10mr6126156fgy.9.1225309609083; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810291246g4a8d45e4oac61231f804cc375@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:46:48 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "Steven Susbauer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:46:52 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Steven Susbauer < stupendoussteve@hotmail.com> wrote: > freebsd-update fetch fails if the default "ServerName > update.FreeBSD.org" is not changed to "ServerName update1.FreeBSD.org" > in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. > > This happens on at least 6.3, I believe it is also the case in later > versions but am unsure (7-RELEASE and later kill my networking card due > to a kernel regression). > > I am wanting input before writing up a PR, to see if in fact I am just > some isolated case, or if it has been fixed already in newer versions. > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD thinkpad.lan 6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct > 1 05:34:19 UTC 2008 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > Nonfunctional: > > thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... > fetch: http://update.FreeBSD.org/6.3-RELEASE/i386/latest.ssl: No address > record > failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > With update1: > > thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch > Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... > latest.ssl 100% of 512 B 123 kBps > done. > Fetching metadata index... > 344cfb64472cacb781688b5de744795f140233e84105c4100% of 225 B 52 kBps > done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-update update.freebsd.org should work Considering that update1.freebsd.org is a mirror for update.freebsd.org. it works fine here for update.freebsd.org ever since I updated to 7.x from 6.2(tested freebsd-update on 6.2) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:49:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A49106567A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787718FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9TJn7pd011906; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:49:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9TJn7pd011906 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1225309754; bh=Khl2e0aJyZz9pG o2hk0+Y5Mar9zOd0f/EXtVng787PI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,=2 029=20Oct=202008=2019:49:00=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Rich=20Fairbanks=20|CC:=20question s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Filesystem,=20RAID=20Question|Refere nces:=20<9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.co m>|In-Reply-To:=20<9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mai l.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart /signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application /pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig7D4B20F254D3 8FC072B4661D"; b=MsO4Llw/Fq4rfXtcqvT8j/WoWfcH3IrQC67Kcc9ysS2phMikOS xrWMUXVg4554/PUsIFBfZ8V6Ub/fdri19/iLFwJXaJXf7lXDCrBK10A4/BfbQ1i3G3X bbF8OcIfkcRC7un1H5clACvBQ8K6vX4h6Aro0craW6IbfX/VtpH6/Q= Message-ID: <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:49:00 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Fairbanks References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7D4B20F254D38FC072B4661D" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:49:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8537/Wed Oct 29 13:26:33 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:49:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7D4B20F254D38FC072B4661D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rich Fairbanks wrote: > Now, this is how I set up the array. I installed the card, popped in th= e > drives. The card bios found the drives and allowed me to setup in RAID = 5. > Then, FreeBSD booted and found the "disk" as da0. I want the entire arr= ay to > be one big chunk of space. In other words, I don't need a bunch of slic= es or > partitions (or DO I? I'm still very new to the whole slice vs. partitio= n > concept) The default settings should actually work just about right for a=20 general purpose file system with reasonably sized files. A RAID5=20 across 3x1TB drives will give you 2+ TB usable space -- that's within=20 the capabilities of UFS2, so you should be OK there. However a 3 disk=20 RAID5 is the worst performing RAID5 setup you can create. A larger=20 number of smaller disks would probably have served you better. > I typed newfs /dev/da0 . A ton of numbers went across the screen, then = I > mounted /dev/da0 at /usr/home/storage. It works, but perhaps I missed a= step > that would have made things easier/perform better, etc. The sort of changes you can make at newfs time mostly affect how=20 efficient the storage is -- ie. tuning the system for particularly=20 large or small files. While newfs and tunefs can affect performance,=20 they aren't the first thing to look at here.=20 > Besides creating the file system a different way, what would be an opti= mum > stripe size for the array? I will using this for storing, basically, a = TON > of word documents and email messages, and a few large .pst files. So, t= he > average file size will be in the 25-100K range, but a few 1-2GB files. Just take the default stripe size the array controller presents you=20 with -- it will be appropriate for this sort of mixed file sizes. The first thing to consider is what sort of IO caching strategy your hardware is using. Does your RAID controller have a battery backup unit? Probably not, as that tends to add a large whack onto the price. If not, then your array controller will not report an IO operation as=20 complete to the OS until the bits have been written to the disk[*]. =20 With the BBU, the controller can report the operation as complete as=20 soon as the data is stored in (battery backed) RAM on the controller. =20 These modes are called 'write through' and 'write back' in some=20 controllers, but I can't for the life of me remember which is which. Given that you don't have a BBU, what is the status of write caching on the individual hard drives? You'll have to use 3dm2 or the CLI=20 equivalent to investigate this, as the RAID controller tends to hide=20 that level of information from the OS. However, this setting is the same thing as controlled by the hw.ata.wc sysctl -- and like that=20 it has a major effect on disk IO performance. Turning write caching=20 off is the safe, conservative thing to do for maximum data security. =20 Turning write caching on is the only way to get decent performance out=20 of ordinary hard drives, but it leaves you open to data loss if the=20 machine should crash or lose power suddenly. Most systems with ATA or ordinary SATA drives default to using write caching. SCSI and fast SAS drives can be configured either way. You'ld always turn disk level write caching off if you've got a BBU,=20 because it's made redundant in that case by the controller memory=20 cache. If fiddling with write caching can't make things any better, then I'd=20 reconsider using RAID5. Unfortunately 3 disks doesn't leave you with=20 many options. Add another drive of the same size and you can make a 4=20 disk RAID10 with 2TB usable space. Or you can configure the RAID=20 controller to act as a JBOD and try out ZFS -- the RAID-Z mode is=20 the moral equivalent of RAID5 but quite different in operation. Cheers, Matthew [*] Some disks have been known to lie about completing IO transactions=20 even when set to the most conservative mode. IMHO they aren't fit for=20 purpose and should you be landed with such things you'ld be entitled=20 to a refund from the vendor. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7D4B20F254D38FC072B4661D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkIvjMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxIzACglG4YrG46yFNPxplVGWzPyddz 300An3E69XYzelFr/AE7ypZtzXALUayu =PTYr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7D4B20F254D38FC072B4661D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:51:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F5A106568C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757978FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.248]) by bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:51:05 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:51:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: kitchetech@gmail.com Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:51:00 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 19:51:05.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADE01F80:01C939FF] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:51:05 -0000 matt donovan wrote: > > >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Steven Susbauer >> wrote: > > freebsd-update fetch fails if the default "ServerName > update.FreeBSD.org " is not changed to > "ServerName update1.FreeBSD.org " > in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. > > This happens on at least 6.3, I believe it is also the case in later > versions but am unsure (7-RELEASE and later kill my networking card >due > to a kernel regression). > > I am wanting input before writing up a PR, to see if in fact I am just > some isolated case, or if it has been fixed already in newer versions. > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD thinkpad.lan 6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct > 1 05:34:19 UTC 2008 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > Nonfunctional: > > thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... > none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... > fetch: http://update.FreeBSD.org/6.3-RELEASE/i386/latest.ssl: No >address > record > failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up. > > With update1: > > thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch > Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org > mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from >update1.FreeBSD.org... > latest.ssl 100% of 512 B 123 kBps > done. > Fetching metadata index... > 344cfb64472cacb781688b5de744795f140233e84105c4100% of 225 B 52 kBps > done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > >update.freebsd.org should work >Considering that update1.freebsd.org is a >mirror for update.freebsd.org. it works fine >here for update.freebsd.org ever since I >updated to 7.x from 6.2(tested freebsd-update on 6.2) > update.freebsd.org does not have a DNS entry associated with it, could that be part of the problem I'm having? (just-ping.com gets Unknown Host from 34 systems around the world) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 20:12:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED43B1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 366008FC26 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 26056 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 20:12:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.159.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 20:12:45 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BE46217067; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:12:43 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:12:43 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Steven Susbauer Message-ID: <20081029201243.GA96694@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:12:49 -0000 On Wed 2008-10-29 13:37:11 UTC-0600, Steven Susbauer (stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) wrote: > freebsd-update fetch fails if the default "ServerName > update.FreeBSD.org" is not changed to "ServerName update1.FreeBSD.org" > in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. > thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. May be related to this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/183886.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 20:25:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7742610656A3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676FB8FC21 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.244]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:25:10 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:25:10 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:25:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: mail@ozzmosis.com Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:25:06 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2008 20:25:10.0735 (UTC) FILETIME=[71073DF0:01C93A04] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:25:11 -0000 andrew clarke wrote: >On Wed 2008-10-29 13:37:11 UTC-0600, Steven Susbauer >(stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) wrote: > >>freebsd-update fetch fails if the default "ServerName >>update.FreeBSD.org" is not changed to "ServerName update1.FreeBSD.org" >>in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. > >>thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch >>Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > >May be related to this: > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/183886.html > Yes it certainly was, my router dnsmasq.conf included filterwin2k, which apparently blocks SRV requests. Will remember to keep that off in the future. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 20:38:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33471065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [216.243.150.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DF38FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from roadrash.tcbug.org (c-24-118-145-206.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [24.118.145.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25916169E508; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4908C575.5040201@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:05 -0500 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Rich Fairbanks , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:38:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Rich Fairbanks wrote: > >> Now, this is how I set up the array. I installed the card, popped in the >> drives. The card bios found the drives and allowed me to setup in RAID 5. >> Then, FreeBSD booted and found the "disk" as da0. I want the entire >> array to >> be one big chunk of space. In other words, I don't need a bunch of >> slices or >> partitions (or DO I? I'm still very new to the whole slice vs. partition >> concept) > newfs /dev/da0 gives you a filesystem with softupdates turned off. You'll want to enable them. Either reinitialize the filesystem with newfs -U or use tunefs to turn softupdates on. 3ware recently released new firmware for the 9650 and 9690 cards that has given me some impressive jumps in application level performance. You can flash the card from in the OS using tw_cli - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIxXUACgkQJvkB8SevrsvQugCbBOFjfcTsxt+yzoiATJ7pgVk7 55sAmQF7v302XoF0OBv7hoC6rZA6tPhM =oSsJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 21:40:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A361065672 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845EE8FC21 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so223300ika.3 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:40:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HQJaiBAExzboCz3JQZ9U0YHWpAep5AIstnDW2mhThxw=; b=vrHasygqbKZhb9LaUPqzyvmNkaI7zGSNSyVhFvEfKPlo5+KyvYPgTJfDlRpvAlVeI6 JT1cTy6lRG7wGknoOEH9bWdEV0KPg4f7QgtaaJf/OhtwyCiBDq9bUaOMF1qZc+xzogRy fLBGFw+X/zgkz1CaPoleFvr110Ymn/hkvehS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=E2fJExMvgkl1Pufo3DXtK1O7cj+0M/FysejsQmQD6L7kBQ7ARneSDg24cp9D+4AiH+ hb0ZtLN3bTeXTXu3Jcw9UdKrKK9WwzQUnTXYtL9PAMSLxVTg9sv7OMA9DVetyQvQDFCb T4VA+n4mcRg5c+LJ05MCcX4vC1FSXpYTsYD74= Received: by 10.210.19.11 with SMTP id 11mr10618514ebs.172.1225316433563; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.28.13 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:40:33 +0000 From: Franck To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <200810291101.29795.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <490886B3.4070204@free.fr> <200810291332.40102.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:40:36 -0000 Hi, Thank you for help. I provide you the maximum information about my partitio= ns. Before, I watch the kernel configuration. When I fetch the kernel sources, I can see 2 differents configuration files : DEFAULTS and GENERIC. and the line : "options GEOM_PART_GPT" is present only in GENERIC. If I use my knowledge in linux systems, I would say that my actual kernel was compiled with the DEFAULTS conf, which doesn't enable the support of GPT for GEOM. Maybe I'm wrong, my knew kernel is compiling... On Freebsd : [Dante@iris-bsd /usr/home/Dante]$ ls /dev/|grep ^ad ad0 ad0s2 ad0s3 ad0s4 ad0s4a ad0s4b ad0s4c my dmesg : http://pastebin.com/m7b5f130e On Gentoo : dante@iris:~ % LANG=3DC sudo parted /dev/sda GNU Parted 1.8.8 Using /dev/sda Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands. (parted) p Model: ATA ST9200420ASG (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 200GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt Number Start End Size File system Name Flags 1 20.5kB 210MB 210MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot 2 210MB 19.4GB 19.2GB hfs+ MacOSX 3 19.4GB 19.6GB 206MB ext2 4 19.6GB 39.5GB 19.9GB 6 39.5GB 42.7GB 3142MB linux-swap 5 42.7GB 58.4GB 15.7GB ext3 Gentoo 7 58.4GB 74.1GB 15.7GB ext3 9 89.9GB 200GB 110GB ext3 The 4 is my ufs partition. UFS is not recognize on my gentoo system. The partition 7 is my home, the one that I want to mount under freebsd. Again, thank you for your help Franck 2008/10/29 John Baldwin : > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:52:19 am Franck Royer wrote: >> John Baldwin a =E9crit : >> > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> > >> >> Franck Royer writes: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? = How >> >>> can I access to my fifth partition ? >> >>> >> >> John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still >> >> reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing >> >> disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I'm >> >> not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in the >> >> manual pages. >> >> >> > >> > GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8) utilit= y > you >> > basically do: >> > >> > # gpt create foo0 >> > # gpt boot foo0 >> > >> > The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p1. Y= ou > can >> > then add partitions: >> > >> > # gpt add -t ufs foo0 >> > # newfs /dev/foo0p2 >> > >> > gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that >> > sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way to do= it >> > during installation. >> > >> > >> Ok thank you. But actually, it's not what I'm looking for. >> >> I use freebsd on a macbook. On this macbook, I already have a gpt, >> refit, mac os x and some linux partitions. The problem is freebsd, which >> doesn't recognize partitions after the fourth one (but my gentoo linux >> see them). >> >> Then, I suppose freebsd use the mbr partition table (synchronized from >> the gpt one using refit) to populate the /dev, but partitions after the >> fourth, which are those I want to use, are only indexed in the gpt. >> >> Finally, I want to force freebsd to use the gpt on my hard drive to >> allow it to see others partitions. >> >> I don't want to destroy my actual gpt, maybe one day, but no right now. >> >> Tell me if my english is too bad to be understood. >> >> I just want to precise that I use pcvbsd 7.0, so the kernel >> configuration might be different than the freebsd generic one. > > What device entries do you see in /dev? > > -- > John Baldwin > -- Franck Royer Student of Manchester University Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com --=20 Franck Royer Student of Manchester University Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:56:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164A21065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (scotth.emsphone.com [199.67.51.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918F78FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9TJMsa0039934; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:22:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: (from shildret@localhost) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m9TJMsCV039933; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:22:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) From: "Scott T. Hildreth" To: Chagin Dmitry In-Reply-To: <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:22:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1225308174.1521.25.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:17:36 +0000 Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Gary Jennejohn , Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shildreth@allantgroup.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:56:37 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:02 +0300, Chagin Dmitry wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:05:51PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 > > Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > > > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: > > > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. > > > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing flash > > > will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall npviewer.bin' (I use > > > nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser like nothing happened. You'll > > > get the page -- but without the embedded flash, of course. > > > I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) work this morning -- thanks to > > > nox' checklist, and have not yet been able to investigate, why it hangs > > > on occasion... > > > > > > > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > > Hi, > yes, I can confirm. thnx! Works for me, but I am using 2.0.0.17 + flash9. I didn't know about this site. Awesome, back when MTV actually played music. :-D > > > > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed > > on both systems. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 22:18:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990FE1065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2568FC23 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9F050BBD; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9TM03wY003054; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Franck Message-Id: <20081029230003.4c4c6487.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <200810291101.29795.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <490886B3.4070204@free.fr> <200810291332.40102.jhb@freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:18:06 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:40:33 +0000, Franck wrote: > If I use my knowledge in linux systems, I would say > that my actual kernel was compiled with the DEFAULTS conf, which > doesn't enable the support of GPT for GEOM. Maybe I'm wrong, my knew > kernel is compiling... Without setting KERNCONF, the GENERIC kernel configuration file will be used to build a kernel, if I remember the handbook correctly. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 22:22:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA56D1065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16FA8FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF601897E4; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:22:01 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: +GvUWw666KfmeTsgNqOoOnIBfm9+qD1UQ+4lBWpnFr3D 1225318921 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C8122C15C; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9085B850-9271-40D9-A64D-84DF64F14E2E@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081027002359.GA7165@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:21:59 -0500 References: <20081026235553.GA45810@ezekiel.daleco.biz> <20081027002359.GA7165@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MTA on non-standard port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:22:03 -0000 On Oct 26, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > 1) Incoming SMTP (e.g. someIP:* --> yourIP:25) > 2) Outbound SMTP (e.g. yourIP:* --> someIP:25) > > #2 has become prominent in the past few years, and is applied by ISPs > because they want to curb their customers sending spam out onto the > Internet (usually as a result of viruses, trojans, etc.), getting > their > IPs blocked by DNSBLs and giving them a bad social rep. Instead, they > force customers to relay outbound mail through their own SMTP servers > (called a "smart host" in sendmail terms). > > There's absolutely no way around this; you can beg them all you want, > but the chances of them adding a pass-through for you is very slim. If you want to do direct to MX mailing, you are going to need to negotiate that separately. At the very least you will need a static IP address. If you pay for that, then you will probably be allowed to do direct to MX mailing. On the whole, I think that Access Service Providers are right in this policy. Back in the old days of smaller ASPs, there were several that had a simple policy. You could be allowed destination:25 traffic merely by asking for it. They figured that anyone smart enough to ask for it knew what they were doing. But it was blocked by default. But keep in mind that if you don't have a static IP address, the mail hosts you try to reach are also very likely to block you. > The Linksys router has two outbound firewall rules applied to it: it > only allows bsdIP on my LAN to connect to someIP:25,587 -- thus, only > one machine on my LAN is allowed to speak SMTP to the world. I do > this > purely as a precautionary measure (in case one of my friends comes > over > with his/her laptop, which happens to be infected and sends spam, etc. > -- it won't work, period). Wise choice. I wish more home and business networks did that. > Eventually they stated that I could send mail through their mail > servers > on port 587. I quickly set this up, and found it failed -- their > servers require SMTP AUTH on port 587, no exceptions (note: this is > NOT mandatory by the RFC; it's OPTIONAL). Again. I think that this is fit and proper. > The reason I do not like siphoning mail through Comcast: their mail > servers are known to act wonky or /dev/null mail for mysterious > reasons. Then pay money to a company whose business depends on doing mail right. I use fastmail.fm which I highly recommend. > I hope the experience with your ISP is better than mine. Good luck. A business account (needed for a static IP address) is expensive. But don't expect to mail directly to MX (without going through some mailhub, either comcast's or a service that you pay separately for) without one. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 22:28:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F681065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B208FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so93471ywe.13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=TIz8ap7AYJhnpo20dAr/boqDzC2QNkegbs7j8/bMYZI=; b=HmEepCGacvGkowM5jvCH/zDteVTCByzeuII8tCtv8FNjE2Dli0YzIAgaveEKK9yYKG ITLBU2Hw7eKPQXDh+5F0mSF1UCvbsttAr9vjbbsm6difSJsYjGrvcuP6Wjl9xDYwKNfD h/xQ/GlRN6LSgWFoHwC7Xxcs0cy4EhXRD4KDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=K/K6hHeLk5n9TVjFK6f+ty7k1+veyv1cPNeOil/Ef3/F86D2U6CwSMO83pWYmN8DKD CJJeuGxULRJijOps4c8hqJ+SW+nVO+6u+qaD6Vi18JLllCzkOhx9FV7GBc5PpO5TJ6zv tpU2OK7H+xlpKzCK3Afh9Rf4bpdiP808phakc= Received: by 10.64.185.18 with SMTP id i18mr9813211qbf.65.1225317763100; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.201.9 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:02:43 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:28:27 -0000 Hello, I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and the cgi will send the selected signal. I need to add one ps information per column in a table (html), however, I found ps(1) output to be too hard to parse. There is no separator. I believed \t was the separator but its not. The ps(1) command I need to use is: ps -ax -o pid -o user -o emul -o lstart -o lockname -o stat -o command Since many of those args use [:space:] in the output, I can not use [:space:] as a separator. Sadly, `-o fiend='value'` will only format the HEADER output, not the values. Ive got no clue what to do, can someone enlight me? Thank you all in advance. -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 22:29:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6CA1065674 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11D8FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1KvJXP-0000h8-5R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:29:15 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KvJXO-0000La-I6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:29:14 +0000 From: Mike Clarke Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:29:14 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200810292229.14412.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: f353b3d5fccbcecfd7534bc7bf2f7d08 Subject: Further problems with gimp-help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:29:16 -0000 Last week I posted here about a problem with gimp-help after upgrading to gimp-2.6.1,2. Despite gimp-help-2.4.1 being installed, my attempts to access help in gimp produced the following messages: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The GIMP user manual is not installed on your computer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- When I changed the preferences to use online help I got the following error message: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading: Operation not supported Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In fact gimp wouldn't open any file via http, and gio-fam-backend-2.16.5 and gvfs-0.2.5 were installed. Following suggestions from Jan Henrik Sylvester I installed www/webkit-gtk2 but still had the same problem. I subsequently discovered that if I started gimp from a terminal window instead of from the KDE menu I could access the local help files with no problem but still couldn't use the online help. Unfortunately I don't know if this would have worked before installing webkit-gtk2. At this stage I was starting to wonder if I might have missed some crucial item in ports/UPDATING at some stage in the past and might have some dependency issues so I used a spare slice to set up a new test system. I created the new system by copying all the partitions from my working system, editing fstab to change device names and then running pkg_deinstall -af to remove all packages. Then I installed enough ports to run X and twm before attempting to install gimp. This time I got lots of the following warning messages while building gimp-help: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd xml/es.xml:2: warning: failed to load external entity "http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd" //OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.3//EN" "http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- These didn't stop gimp-help from building and installing but, needless to say, gimp produced the usual errors about not having the user manual installed. The new version of gimp couldn't open any file via http either. Although I've got the workaround of starting gimp from a terminal window I'm left with 3 mysteries which I'd like to solve if possible: 1) Why does gimp, on both my original system and the new build, fail to open files via http? 2) Why does gimp-help not work when gimp is started from the KDE menu but does work OK when gimp is started from a terminal window? 3) Why does make fail to build gimp-help correctly in the new system on the spare slice but was able to build it OK on the original system. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 22:20:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108001065678; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEC58FC1B; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so110604eyi.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+tDOElYIQwFXNDC6uNhNsKRi3IkqFbYiUJuYqE9RH+M=; b=Qf8GE7TFANzDMTuL7D1lWWvVLvYuq07TmtGTasP4w3zsRQ0cK3DIb7SiyhzUgRW+Jl DJvdMn6fxrLmEkFms5GZ6NvOAf5c+jgAUvqwX3p9B/XoT11iy+QJzIjkKFFxLTjslmR9 ub6eu77Ia+koZmJ/GVH86QXwy6d87tPzPkzPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uSi646r+8ppg+fpj82UdnSf0gypdS2SP3u9aRSskbdGAtQvN5GRHmsm4QwfHkECGuO roDYzsvakuN23xySxJE6BHfdsXyzdoSG2c1H9IEaghXhy8wDlfzFaPJxoQ2unxdLg422 ukoRKhJbvVxfRf4tYm/iRn74w7EmHPIvcPgos= Received: by 10.210.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr10713470eby.38.1225318815045; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.28.13 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:20:15 +0000 From: Franck To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200810291754.07992.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <200810291332.40102.jhb@freebsd.org> <200810291754.07992.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:33:50 +0000 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:20:18 -0000 2008/10/29 John Baldwin : > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 05:39:27 pm Franck wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thank you for help. I provide you the maximum information about my > partitions. >> >> Before, I watch the kernel configuration. When I fetch the kernel >> sources, I can see 2 differents configuration files : DEFAULTS and >> GENERIC. and the line : "options GEOM_PART_GPT" is present >> only in GENERIC. If I use my knowledge in linux systems, I would say >> that my actual kernel was compiled with the DEFAULTS conf, which >> doesn't enable the support of GPT for GEOM. Maybe I'm wrong, my knew >> kernel is compiling... > > The install kernel from the CD is GENERIC. So only if you've built a cus= tom I apologize, I didn't watch in the handbook for this > kernel would you not have GPT support. It seems that the kernel does fi= nd > the GPT table, but gets confused by it. Can you get the output of 'fdisk > ad0' and 'gpt show ad0'? fdisk ad0 : ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=3D387621 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=3D387621 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 238 (0xee),(EFI GPT) start 1, size 409639 (200 Meg), flag 0 =09beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; =09end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 175 (0xaf),(HFS+) start 409640, size 37486592 (18304 Meg), flag 0 =09beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; =09end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 131 (0x83),(Linux native) start 37897335, size 401625 (196 Meg), flag 80 (active) =09beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; =09end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 38298960, size 38908800 (18998 Meg), flag 0 =09beg: cyl 107/ head 0/ sector 1; =09end: cyl 818/ head 15/ sector 63 [Dante@iris-bsd ~]$ sudo gpt show ad0 gpt show: unable to open device 'ad0': Operation not permitted >Normally with GPT you don't put a BSD label inside > a GPT partition, so you wouldn't have /dev/ad0p4a, but instead would use = a > separate GPT partition for each filesystem/swap/etc. The fstab from my > laptop (not a macbook) looks like this: > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump P= ass# > /dev/ad0p3 none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad0p2 / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ad0p5 /tmp ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0p6 /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0p4 /var ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > Are you booting using boot camp or parallels or some such? Yes, I think It's the problem. Actually I have a Leopard Mac OS X System. And it seems to automatically switch on the "bootcamp feature" when I tried to install pcbsd. That's weird because I haven't any problems to see the gpt table when I boot from a ubuntu cd for example. If I well remember, I was obliged to install pcbsd in one of the four first parititions. I'll reboot on the pcbsd cd to see if I can access to all the partitions. I realize that's must be efi/refit/bootcamp which mess up all. And I don't how to fix that. Thank you, Franck > >> On Freebsd : >> >> [Dante@iris-bsd /usr/home/Dante]$ ls /dev/|grep ^ad >> ad0 >> ad0s2 >> ad0s3 >> ad0s4 >> ad0s4a >> ad0s4b >> ad0s4c >> >> my dmesg : >> http://pastebin.com/m7b5f130e >> >> On Gentoo : >> >> dante@iris:~ % LANG=3DC sudo parted /dev/sda >> GNU Parted 1.8.8 >> Using /dev/sda >> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands. >> (parted) p >> Model: ATA ST9200420ASG (scsi) >> Disk /dev/sda: 200GB >> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B >> Partition Table: gpt >> >> Number Start End Size File system Name Flags >> 1 20.5kB 210MB 210MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot >> 2 210MB 19.4GB 19.2GB hfs+ MacOSX >> 3 19.4GB 19.6GB 206MB ext2 >> 4 19.6GB 39.5GB 19.9GB >> 6 39.5GB 42.7GB 3142MB linux-swap >> 5 42.7GB 58.4GB 15.7GB ext3 Gentoo >> 7 58.4GB 74.1GB 15.7GB ext3 >> 9 89.9GB 200GB 110GB ext3 >> >> The 4 is my ufs partition. UFS is not recognize on my gentoo system. >> The partition 7 is my home, the one that I want to mount under >> freebsd. >> >> Again, thank you for your help >> >> Franck >> >> 2008/10/29 John Baldwin : >> > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:52:19 am Franck Royer wrote: >> >> John Baldwin a =E9crit : >> >> > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Franck Royer writes: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one= ? > How >> >> >>> can I access to my fifth partition ? >> >> >>> >> >> >> John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still >> >> >> reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing >> >> >> disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I= 'm >> >> >> not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in th= e >> >> >> manual pages. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8) uti= lity >> > you >> >> > basically do: >> >> > >> >> > # gpt create foo0 >> >> > # gpt boot foo0 >> >> > >> >> > The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p1. > You >> > can >> >> > then add partitions: >> >> > >> >> > # gpt add -t ufs foo0 >> >> > # newfs /dev/foo0p2 >> >> > >> >> > gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that >> >> > sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way to= do > it >> >> > during installation. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Ok thank you. But actually, it's not what I'm looking for. >> >> >> >> I use freebsd on a macbook. On this macbook, I already have a gpt, >> >> refit, mac os x and some linux partitions. The problem is freebsd, wh= ich >> >> doesn't recognize partitions after the fourth one (but my gentoo linu= x >> >> see them). >> >> >> >> Then, I suppose freebsd use the mbr partition table (synchronized fro= m >> >> the gpt one using refit) to populate the /dev, but partitions after t= he >> >> fourth, which are those I want to use, are only indexed in the gpt. >> >> >> >> Finally, I want to force freebsd to use the gpt on my hard drive to >> >> allow it to see others partitions. >> >> >> >> I don't want to destroy my actual gpt, maybe one day, but no right no= w. >> >> >> >> Tell me if my english is too bad to be understood. >> >> >> >> I just want to precise that I use pcvbsd 7.0, so the kernel >> >> configuration might be different than the freebsd generic one. >> > >> > What device entries do you see in /dev? >> > >> > -- >> > John Baldwin >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Franck Royer >> >> Student of Manchester University >> Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure >> d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) >> >> e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com >> > > > > -- > John Baldwin > --=20 Franck Royer Student of Manchester University Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 22:36:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2D31065675; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3F=fdf8ebd4@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371F08FC1C; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3F=fdf8ebd4@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D543ED05B1; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:36:12 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029223612.6da7b36e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Colin Percival Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:36:16 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:25:06 -0600 "Steven Susbauer" wrote: > andrew clarke wrote: > >On Wed 2008-10-29 13:37:11 UTC-0600, Steven Susbauer > >(stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) wrote: > > > >>freebsd-update fetch fails if the default "ServerName > >>update.FreeBSD.org" is not changed to "ServerName > >>update1.FreeBSD.org" in /etc/freebsd-update.conf. > > > >>thinkpad# freebsd-update --debug fetch > >>Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > > > >May be related to this: > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/183886.html > > > Yes it certainly was, my router dnsmasq.conf included filterwin2k, > which apparently blocks SRV requests. Will remember to keep that off > in the future. I think it would still be a good idea to file a PR. With portsnap the default server is itself one of the servers on the SRV list, so portsnap should fall-back to a working server even when DNS is unavailable (behind a proxy) or screwed-up by a router etc. I dont see a reason why update.FreeBSD.org shouldn't have the same A-record as update1.FreeBSD.org, so that it "just works". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 23:00:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBE01065670 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from xps.daemonology.net (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0C0114EF43 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 73166 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 23:00:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xps.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 23:00:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4908EB1C.9010601@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:00:44 -0700 From: Colin Percival User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081002) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <20081029223612.6da7b36e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081029223612.6da7b36e@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:45 -0000 RW wrote: > With portsnap the default server is itself one of the servers on the > SRV list, so portsnap should fall-back to a working server even when > DNS is unavailable (behind a proxy) or screwed-up by a router etc. > > I dont see a reason why update.FreeBSD.org shouldn't have the > same A-record as update1.FreeBSD.org, so that it "just works". With portsnap, I asked for the A record to be created not as a fallback for people with broken DNS, but instead as a backwards compatibility mechanism for people who were running old versions of portsnap which didn't do SRV lookups. To be honest, I didn't realize that there were so many people with broken DNS resolution. I'll ask the FreeBSD DNS admins to add an A record for update.freebsd.org. Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 23:15:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EE7106564A; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.delphij.net (delphij-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:2c9::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA748FC17; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@delphij.net) Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.delphij.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C856728449; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:15:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from localhost (tarsier.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B292EB939C; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:15:39 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at geekcn.org Received: from tarsier.geekcn.org ([211.166.10.233]) by localhost (mail.geekcn.org [211.166.10.233]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xxSxTN4uI7da; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:15:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from charlie.delphij.net (adsl-76-237-33-62.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.237.33.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tarsier.geekcn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14B49EB9391; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:15:32 +0800 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=default; d=delphij.net; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent: mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pc2c17jY1f432z0mRFuiAGLCwa3PhFZzkK31mTojB6dx4FauiJ2OF/C0tEbfbt0GE vA8o20m9r7d8ard6SMXFA== Message-ID: <4908EE91.1080706@delphij.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:15:29 -0700 From: Xin LI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eduardo Meyer References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=18EDEBA0; url=http://www.delphij.net/delphij.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@delphij.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:15:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eduardo Meyer wrote: > Hello, > > I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in > a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and > the cgi will send the selected signal. > > I need to add one ps information per column in a table (html), > however, I found ps(1) output to be too hard to parse. There is no > separator. I believed \t was the separator but its not. > > The ps(1) command I need to use is: > > ps -ax -o pid -o user -o emul -o lstart -o lockname -o stat -o command > > Since many of those args use [:space:] in the output, I can not use > [:space:] as a separator. > Sadly, `-o fiend='value'` will only format the HEADER output, not the values. > > Ive got no clue what to do, can someone enlight me? Perhaps use cut(1) with -c or something similar in other scripting language? It looks like that the output is aligned. Cheers, - -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkI7pEACgkQi+vbBBjt66Bi3wCgmk9chU/FIZjuBpm/57Yl7jBY D6kAoI6ZmQRdxDm7mzjale84p4uXmlmz =4FMM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 23:20:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A89B1065677 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D827B8FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9TNKgeT048112; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9TNKgAk048109; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Mike Clarke In-Reply-To: <200810292229.14412.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <200810292229.14412.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further problems with gimp-help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:20:44 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Mike Clarke wrote: > Following suggestions from Jan Henrik Sylvester I installed > www/webkit-gtk2 but still had the same problem. I subsequently > discovered that if I started gimp from a terminal window instead of > from the KDE menu I could access the local help files with no problem > but still couldn't use the online help. Unfortunately I don't know if > this would have worked before installing webkit-gtk2. webkit-gtk2 is not installed here, but online help works. > At this stage I was starting to wonder if I might have missed some > crucial item in ports/UPDATING at some stage in the past and might have > some dependency issues so I used a spare slice to set up a new test > system. > > I created the new system by copying all the partitions from my working > system, editing fstab to change device names and then running > pkg_deinstall -af to remove all packages. Then I installed enough ports > to run X and twm before attempting to install gimp. > > This time I got lots of the following warning messages while building > gimp-help: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > I/O error : Attempt to load network entity > http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd > xml/es.xml:2: warning: failed to load external > entity "http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd" > //OASIS//DTD DocBook XML > V4.3//EN" "http://www.docbook.org/xml/4.3/docbookx.dtd" > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > These didn't stop gimp-help from building and installing but, needless > to say, gimp produced the usual errors about not having the user manual > installed. gimp-help depends on /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-xsl. You might deinstall that port, then clean and install. Watch for a pkg-message after the install. You should also check for "optimizations" in /etc/make.conf. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 23:34:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598B9106567C for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m0rchand@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD378FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m0rchand@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YeAc1a02r0b6N64A1nQAmc; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:24:10 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.200] ([76.122.47.225]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YnQ91a0094rWgJL8PnQ9j4; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:24:10 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LgzOyp7x1A4A:10 a=t7L62AhPsWgA:10 a=pmcz18mH-jHL6IhGZaIA:9 a=IkrZhaN6mqzFEXsNQdFyw0OXdhAA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Message-Id: From: Tom Marchand In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:24:09 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:34:11 -0000 The output I get from that command is pretty much aligned in columns. Maybe you can extract the columns with cut -c. On Oct 29, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Eduardo Meyer wrote: > ps -ax -o pid -o user -o emul -o lstart -o lockname -o stat -o command From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 23:51:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE2106564A for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6BE8FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royer.franck@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so160676nfh.33 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:51:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:from; bh=lbaXsYHxy9ix3yHZApBbvww6RMo/v2N9LG3l+bn2E2U=; b=OpZo5x2Fxg0cJdeDAYaFLSM02Ey0We/3HCIg1vkWsAcRQjMNHMsbmZm335gPZNpu7e QzafgQR/vsy1eKGFWHAzqMFAkTDEkR/NlnnTN0GFcTzLlkToLcOjZIOGHiMHfN9x5S2w bEmnwUJSvHjvkyW8Exs69mCAsWPo5Bi/WArEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id:from; b=uNis6vciKU1YXAJMWm5JaANRqg00xvtWUKP6nsQc5F+RcxK+UfGR4q9PTtJ66lhwo5 yg2dG+NQeblKfaAnyvWu3KBR8cOGnSOVGzp4tcOP7qF+JFKHPealSW6DXhkVCGj/dGcT uG/PIJkqdF640SYqissAoaZTZS0eMoFUC4TMk= Received: by 10.210.30.1 with SMTP id d1mr10788405ebd.31.1225322744322; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iris-bsd.localnet (host217-43-152-224.range217-43.btcentralplus.com [217.43.152.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9sm1154726gvc.0.2008.10.29.16.25.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:25:43 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:25:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.2; i386; ; ) References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810292325.41743.francklarchange@free.fr> From: Franck Royer Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:51:35 -0000 More news : 1) Boot from the livecd pcbsd - Like I remember, pcbsd shows me only the first four partitions in the=20 installation wizard. That's correspond to the partitions which are=20 synchronised from the gpt by refit. - When I boot to emergency mode, I am able to access to all my partitions = !=20 and a "gpt show ad0" works fine. But, still from the emergency mode, I chro= ot=20 in my pcbsd root partition, I can't see the gpt anymore. Pretty weird... 2) New kernel Like I said, I recompile a kernel from the generic with two more lines : "options GEOM_PART_MBR" "options EXT2FS" When I booted on it, I had a problem : ad0 became ad5. So the mountroot ask= ed=20 me to enter the name of my root partition and Miracle ! it show me ALL my g= pt=20 partitions, include my Home in ext2. Then I enter "ad5s4a" which is my pcbsd root partition. After the boot, I thought all was fixed but no, I still can only see the 4= =20 first partitions in the /dev and "gpt show ad5" still returns an error. It's pretty weird because before the mount of the root partition, i was abl= e=20 to see all my gpt partitions, then after, the problem remains. I don't enough know the freebsd boot process to understand by myself. Any=20 Ideas ? =46ranck > Hi, > > Thank you for help. I provide you the maximum information about my > partitions. > > Before, I watch the kernel configuration. When I fetch the kernel > sources, I can see 2 differents configuration files : DEFAULTS and > GENERIC. and the line : "options GEOM_PART_GPT" is present > only in GENERIC. If I use my knowledge in linux systems, I would say > that my actual kernel was compiled with the DEFAULTS conf, which > doesn't enable the support of GPT for GEOM. Maybe I'm wrong, my knew > kernel is compiling... > > On Freebsd : > > [Dante@iris-bsd /usr/home/Dante]$ ls /dev/|grep ^ad > ad0 > ad0s2 > ad0s3 > ad0s4 > ad0s4a > ad0s4b > ad0s4c > > my dmesg : > http://pastebin.com/m7b5f130e > > On Gentoo : > > dante@iris:~ % LANG=3DC sudo parted /dev/sda > GNU Parted 1.8.8 > Using /dev/sda > Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands. > (parted) p > Model: ATA ST9200420ASG (scsi) > Disk /dev/sda: 200GB > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > Partition Table: gpt > > Number Start End Size File system Name Flags > 1 20.5kB 210MB 210MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot > 2 210MB 19.4GB 19.2GB hfs+ MacOSX > 3 19.4GB 19.6GB 206MB ext2 > 4 19.6GB 39.5GB 19.9GB > 6 39.5GB 42.7GB 3142MB linux-swap > 5 42.7GB 58.4GB 15.7GB ext3 Gentoo > 7 58.4GB 74.1GB 15.7GB ext3 > 9 89.9GB 200GB 110GB ext3 > > The 4 is my ufs partition. UFS is not recognize on my gentoo system. > The partition 7 is my home, the one that I want to mount under > freebsd. > > Again, thank you for your help > > Franck > > 2008/10/29 John Baldwin : > > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:52:19 am Franck Royer wrote: > >> John Baldwin a =E9crit : > >> > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> >> Franck Royer writes: > >> >>> Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos one ? > >> >>> How can I access to my fifth partition ? > >> >> > >> >> John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's still > >> >> reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing > >> >> disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. I'm > >> >> not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in the > >> >> manual pages. > >> > > >> > GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8) > >> > utility > > > > you > > > >> > basically do: > >> > > >> > # gpt create foo0 > >> > # gpt boot foo0 > >> > > >> > The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p1.= =20 > >> > You > > > > can > > > >> > then add partitions: > >> > > >> > # gpt add -t ufs foo0 > >> > # newfs /dev/foo0p2 > >> > > >> > gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that > >> > sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way to = do > >> > it during installation. > >> > >> Ok thank you. But actually, it's not what I'm looking for. > >> > >> I use freebsd on a macbook. On this macbook, I already have a gpt, > >> refit, mac os x and some linux partitions. The problem is freebsd, whi= ch > >> doesn't recognize partitions after the fourth one (but my gentoo linux > >> see them). > >> > >> Then, I suppose freebsd use the mbr partition table (synchronized from > >> the gpt one using refit) to populate the /dev, but partitions after the > >> fourth, which are those I want to use, are only indexed in the gpt. > >> > >> Finally, I want to force freebsd to use the gpt on my hard drive to > >> allow it to see others partitions. > >> > >> I don't want to destroy my actual gpt, maybe one day, but no right now. > >> > >> Tell me if my english is too bad to be understood. > >> > >> I just want to precise that I use pcvbsd 7.0, so the kernel > >> configuration might be different than the freebsd generic one. > > > > What device entries do you see in /dev? > > > > -- > > John Baldwin > > -- > Franck Royer > > Student of Manchester University > Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure > d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) > > e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 00:37:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA761065676 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97508FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7D150D49; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:37:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U0bLRe003520; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:37:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:37:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Eduardo Meyer" Message-Id: <20081030013720.1ea2c825.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:37:26 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:02:43 -0200, "Eduardo Meyer" wrote: > I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in > a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and > the cgi will send the selected signal. If you can use awk, it's quite simple: ps | awk -F " " 'NR > 1 {printf("%s%s%s%s%s\n", $1, $2, $3, $4, $5);}' The only problem I see is that $5, the COMMAND field, is truncated after the first space character, so command line arguments will be missing. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 00:53:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D127A106578C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout020.mac.com (asmtpout020.mac.com [17.148.16.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC41B8FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:53:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp020.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9I008BNYC7G510@asmtp020.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1550A31A-6ECB-46F4-8138-7A46AC093A7F@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Eduardo Meyer In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:52:55 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:53:21 -0000 On Oct 29, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Eduardo Meyer wrote: > I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in > a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and > the cgi will send the selected signal. Rather than rolling your own web-based admin tool, why not try something like sysutils/webmin? It's got a "Running Processes" table which lets you send signals like HUP, KILL, etc by clicking a button.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 01:11:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B251065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [210.11.55.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB078FC1D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926245A2024 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:56:36 +1030 (CST) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89274-03 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:56:32 +1030 (CST) Received: from SELBrendan (lnk11.adl9.adsl.esc.net.au [123.136.46.11]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACD1526BF8 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:56:32 +1030 (CST) From: "Brendan Hart" To: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:12:32 +1030 Message-ID: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack6KGO7r9Kd7wKQRVGQEpVyYJxalA== Content-Language: en-au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au Subject: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:11:43 -0000 Hi, I have inherited some servers running various releases of FreeBSD and I am having some trouble with the /usr partition on one of these boxen. The problem is that there appears to be far more space used on the USR partition than there are actual files on the partition. The utility "df -h" reports 25GB used (i.e. nearly the whole partition), but "du -x /usr" reports only 7.6GB of files. I have reviewed the FAQ, particularly item 9.24 "The du and df commands show different amounts of disk space available. What is going on?". However, the suggested cause of the discrepancy (large files already unlinked but still held open by active processes), does not appear to be true in this case as problem is present even after rebooting into single user mode. #: uname -a FreeBSD ibisweb4spare.strategicecommerce.com.au 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 #: df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 163M 293M 36% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.2G 96% /usr /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 429M 1.3G 24% /var #: du -x -h /usr 2.0K /usr/.snap 24M /usr/bin .... .... 584M /usr/ports 140K /usr/lost+found 7.6G /usr The server is used as a standby machine and a nightly cronjob which uses RSYNC to make a copy of the /usr partition from a live server. Depending on how recently the logs have been culled, the Live server has approximately 7-10GB of data on the /usr partition, so I would expect the same size of data on the standby server. This may be irrelevant, but the server also has an external data directory with 11GB mounted via NFS as a directory under the USR partition. Next, I began to suspect some sort of disk corruption (echoes of the old days of MSDOS lost cluster chains) and I have attempted to find disk issues by running fsck, but no issues were reported and the issue was not remedied. I also tried running fsck in single user mode, again, no improvement. Can anyone suggest what I can try next? Best Regards, Brendan Hart --------------------------------- Brendan Hart, Development Manager Strategic Ecommerce Division Securepay Pty Ltd Phone: 08-8274-4000 Fax: 08-8274-1400 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3567 (20081029) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 01:19:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA781065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202498FC17 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YjeC1a01d1GXsucA2pKqYr; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:19:50 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YpKp1a0052P6wsM8TpKpKh; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:19:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L6qYQmhLVqQA:10 a=_bM8OcOcC78A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=ySm69qJTqLsWof_vPecA:9 a=we464Q1FNNw8QccT-2UYFHLF1BYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 08552C9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:19:49 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Brendan Hart Message-ID: <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:19:51 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:12:32AM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > I have inherited some servers running various releases of FreeBSD and I am > having some trouble with the /usr partition on one of these boxen. > > The problem is that there appears to be far more space used on the USR > partition than there are actual files on the partition. The utility "df -h" > reports 25GB used (i.e. nearly the whole partition), but "du -x /usr" > reports only 7.6GB of files. Have you tried playing with tunefs(8), -m flag? I can't reproduce this behaviour on any of our systems. icarus# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad12s1f 167879968 1973344 152476228 1% /usr icarus# du -sx /usr 1973344 /usr eos# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1f 32494668 2261670 27633426 8% /usr eos# du -sx /usr 2261670 /usr anubis# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1f 80010344 1809620 71799898 2% /usr anubis# du -sx /usr 1809620 /usr horus# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1f 32494668 1608458 28286638 5% /usr horus# du -sx /usr 1608458 /usr -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 01:43:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492BF106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [210.11.55.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABCB8FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FE063201D; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:56:13 +1030 (CST) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92301-04-2; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:56:07 +1030 (CST) Received: from SELBrendan (lnk11.adl9.adsl.esc.net.au [123.136.46.11]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D4D5298E8; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:56:02 +1030 (CST) From: "Brendan Hart" To: "'Jeremy Chadwick'" References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:11:58 +1030 Message-ID: <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack6KzX0aDh7ilYrTOu3ugkDNggpVwABC68Q Content-Language: en-au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:43:34 -0000 Hi, The space reserved as minfree does not appear to have been changed from the default setting of 8%. Is your suggestion that I should change it to a larger value? I don't understand how modifying it now could fix the situation, but I could be missing something. The output of "tunefs -p /usr" is as follows: #: tunefs -p /usr tunefs: ACLs: (-a) disabled tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l) disabled tunefs: soft updates: (-n) enabled tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e) 2048 tunefs: average file size: (-f) 16384 tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s) 64 tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m) 8% tunefs: optimization preference: (-o) time tunefs: volume label: (-L) I have not observed the problem on any of the other ~dozen FreeBSD servers in our data centre. Could the "missing" space be an indication of hardware disk issues i.e. physical blocks marked as bad? Is it possible on UFS2 for disk space to be allocated but hidden somehow? (although I have been running the commands such as "du -x" as superuser) Similarly, is it possible on UFS2 for disk space to be allocated in "lost cluster chains" ? Best Regards, Brendan Hart -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2008 11:50 AM To: Brendan Hart Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:12:32AM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > I have inherited some servers running various releases of FreeBSD and I am > having some trouble with the /usr partition on one of these boxen. > > The problem is that there appears to be far more space used on the USR > partition than there are actual files on the partition. The utility "df -h" > reports 25GB used (i.e. nearly the whole partition), but "du -x /usr" > reports only 7.6GB of files. Have you tried playing with tunefs(8), -m flag? I can't reproduce this behaviour on any of our systems. icarus# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad12s1f 167879968 1973344 152476228 1% /usr icarus# du -sx /usr 1973344 /usr eos# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1f 32494668 2261670 27633426 8% /usr eos# du -sx /usr 2261670 /usr anubis# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1f 80010344 1809620 71799898 2% /usr anubis# du -sx /usr 1809620 /usr horus# df -k /usr Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1f 32494668 1608458 28286638 5% /usr horus# du -sx /usr 1608458 /usr -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3567 (20081029) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3567 (20081029) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 01:52:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37038106567A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5008FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so115280ywe.13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:52:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BXLteaUt6KCgDrPy5ba4RjEgLk1C9odVsuh/Bm1dKAo=; b=G3ux3Iq5IfBgGdFoWBihS0FiZP/7Ld65jw7/0gUBG07O+u9PodG2kKC2/hz0XskZXl Y5NSMdXaxUczHU3+bSXwbntqHBDyFuypMow/ujQiMRnr0y22Av5b5M9dxv4LQJ69GSnk uvXjO2qSYslHmhcVM4GyusRE//hxDNz8Hc7zM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cwsD55EEh6P9EOvbUXs/fI35HDdlt6KB0M07X/xYS+x1kNxT+uyNnW0fiSqI2m/nEu l9FzzmLn6tRk9VHFGI8tB2Af3bggp/FeIiPIoT39eyIvXpvB8S5ZWxh+lKGxh1a3jXVH yQPBrDwnFzBVnYMowRtUOF+Jifg7nlf8co7i8= Received: by 10.65.158.9 with SMTP id k9mr10004014qbo.52.1225329573902; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.10? (c-98-240-159-248.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.159.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k27sm1003600qba.10.2008.10.29.18.19.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:31 -0500 From: Jack Barnett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Freebsd questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackbarnett@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:52:03 -0000 Right now I have a Windows machine a FreeBSD natd/firewall then a cable modem. This is working for web surfing. But I've been playing a lot of games lately and it doesn't work at all (for multiplayer/internet games). Basically the games send/receive data on random ports, and I think it's going out fine - but doesn't come back in. Is this a problem with nat or because I have a stateless firewall? I've played around with this on and off for the last while and haven't gotten any where with it. Do you think this would work better or at least be easier to configure/debug if I moved to pf instead? Do I need to run natd if I run pf? FreeBSD fire2 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #32: Tue Jan 22 22:21:30 CST 2008 gateway_enable="YES" #firewall_enable="YES" #firewall_type="open" firewall_type="simple" #firewall_type="open" firewall_logging="YES" ## PF #pf_enable="NO" # Enable PF (load module if required) #pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules definition file for pf #pf_flags="" # additional flags for pfctl startup #pflog_enable="YES" # start pflogd(8) #pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd should store the logfile #pflog_flags="" # additional flags for pflogd startup ## NATD natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="xl0" natd_flags=" -f /etc/natd.conf" ifconfig_xl0="DHCP" ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.17.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_dc1="inet 192.168.18.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 01:55:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8BC1065679 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B86B8FC1E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YbzM1a0020Fqzac56puqg5; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:54:50 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YpvH1a00Z2P6wsM3UpvHsc; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:55:18 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L6qYQmhLVqQA:10 a=_bM8OcOcC78A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=7zyS5iPk1awsc5jXG6YA:9 a=EUE8dVrOm-wRaWtexX0A:7 a=CGElh3FLQ1VpYay5cKyUpNK50FQA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F00CC941E; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:55:17 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Brendan Hart Message-ID: <20081030015517.GA92091@icarus.home.lan> References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:55:20 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:11:58PM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > The space reserved as minfree does not appear to have been changed from the > default setting of 8%. Okay, then that's likely not the problem. > Is your suggestion that I should change it to a larger value? That would just make your problem worse. :-) > I don't understand how modifying it now could fix the situation, but I > could be missing something. Well, the feature I described isn't what's causing your problem, but to clarify: if you change the percentage, it applies immediately. I read "I don't understand how modifying it now could fix ..." to mean "isn't this option applied during newfs?" > I have not observed the problem on any of the other ~dozen FreeBSD servers > in our data centre. Unless someone more clueful chimes in with better hints, the obvious choice here is going to be "recreate the filesystem". I'd tell you something like "try using ffsinfo(8)?", but I've never used the tool, so very little of the output will make sense to me. > Could the "missing" space be an indication of hardware disk issues i.e. > physical blocks marked as bad? The simple answer is no, bad blocks would not cause what you're seeing. smartctl -a /dev/disk will help you determine if there's evidence the disk is in bad shape. I can help you with reading SMART stats if need be. Since you booted single-user and presumably ran fsck -f /usr, and nothing came back, I'm left to believe this isn't filesystem corruption. > Is it possible on UFS2 for disk space to be allocated but hidden somehow? > (although I have been running the commands such as "du -x" as superuser) That's exactly what the above tunefs parameter describes. > Similarly, is it possible on UFS2 for disk space to be allocated in "lost > cluster chains" ? I don't know what this means. Someone more clueful will have to answer. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:12:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8346F1065678 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169858FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1437B50EDB; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:12:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U2CVDV004171; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:12:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:12:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jackbarnett@gmail.com Message-Id: <20081030031231.8a5fccb9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> References: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:12:35 -0000 If I understood you correctly, your setting is: (Modem/Router)---DHCP---(FreeBSD)---("Windows") I may respond directly on your configuration settings: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:31 -0500, Jack Barnett wrote: > gateway_enable="YES" > #firewall_enable="YES" > #firewall_type="open" > firewall_type="simple" > #firewall_type="open" > firewall_logging="YES" Use instead: gateway_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="xl0" You may add special redirect directives to NATD's settings, such as natd_flags="-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:5900 5900" natd_flags="-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.5:23 6666" or natd_flags="-redirect_address 192.168.1.2 141.44.165.58 \ -redirect_address 192.168.1.5 141.44.165.58" Examples taken from a very old configuration. :-) Then, firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf" Then, be sure to have nice firewall settings, you can use things similar to this, enabling just the services you really need and want, it's easy to write your own one or to rewrite this: -f flush add divert natd ip from any to any via xl0 add allow tcp from any to any ftp in recv xl0 add allow tcp from any to any ssh in recv xl0 add allow tcp from any to any auth in recv xl0 add allow udp from any to any ntp in recv xl0 add allow udp from any to any ntalk in recv xl0 add deny udp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 add reset tcp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 add allow ipencap from any to any add allow ip from any to any This should work fine. NB to use the correct interface names. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:22:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C048A106567D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayvey@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4774F8FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayvey@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so136707eyi.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=S7LqY+GqnkFZr6QJ8ciB0pF1IEtFRvWN3oBmir0HQxk=; b=r+7foEv6MaeRiL5QRJ8EP0nVHgvUWzLeBub2DIrYTbGbb9qCFloamKSs77NN73/3qq ZrxPovaJFdLvpZ8zaExaJpMISBDSG59WBH4rtliJVkZz7/vTQvFxA8vWrKlK+nqrKtqE dAG++A3JIygsa/NDd1zUs2wvUtTZmSG7e41kE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AiWpBdpU1Cdzkx0Xi6Lh6iR/d7PEMAKKFL2XTVKMbpm4c/hcW9rPEDpEflzFXqMUrC 7uy48XmLwIaLDvEbZa8TMuEMfAqKoZGDILbYPD2GFW4uDb6NtDL3jdWyrSfSvD64l6ae HJ7FG74E6j9ae9Xg2TKvzQXudzDZtEU8eFB/k= Received: by 10.210.17.2 with SMTP id 2mr10947316ebq.157.1225333347571; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.86.3 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28b9b4180810291922l1236bde3x4aa3714152e67c6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:22:27 -0700 From: "Kayven Riese" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add (Canhua) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:22:29 -0000 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:12:52 +0800 > From: Canhua > Subject: Re: Newbie question about pkg_add > To: "Steven Susbauer" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steven Susbauer > wrote: > > ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and > > ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does. > > By running "portinstall -P pkgname", it will install a port and > > dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from > > source. > > > > portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help > > with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes. > > > > -Steve> > > I tried portinstall, although dependecies are install with port sources > still. > It take me a whole afternoon to portinstall math/py-neworkx, and it > still doesn't complete as yet. > > Go to sleep! it will be ready in the morning maybe! {:) *----------------------------------------------------------* Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) (415) 902 5513 cellular http://kayve.net Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org *----------------------------------------------------------* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:25:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565021065672 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000B38FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so117849ywe.13 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:25:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PU5VljGazo2v4SO+bJq04hmrnhJX2bXj9yhBbyMh30M=; b=tKYBtRQIbsMO5b96A+voS9yAQ6dxnn8Bm2YRVp2Y8jyoIZzSehpvcru/hI+UaQm8G1 GP8fNkGuU7e2KrposVrz9gfMU1wLdQHvzYHQfx2TOup/udHxOYO7opNomLvrAqyIwxPf qelBX4M/EIz7Jso5nG3xpycC/Oxpwf8kB+8NE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VcE2SEodX8hPyolKwnLD5ZP5yfsilN+rvA9fvTfnuaj/Os9SXzNdNfigENn6+oDQC3 OPX5idGcG8ZVRciVGJqLfQFSxBhFtBJfdG3AjzoWIX6ADcfQsGkXi4gllhX9Lk4yaJ+M q6o6vHQYf6R3o8VttmUJlnYpCIJerd9HQXovI= Received: by 10.64.180.15 with SMTP id c15mr10046288qbf.82.1225333556723; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.17.10? (c-98-240-159-248.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.159.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s30sm1072054qbs.8.2008.10.29.19.25.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49091B32.9060306@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:25:54 -0500 From: Jack Barnett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: Polytropon References: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> <20081030031231.8a5fccb9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081030031231.8a5fccb9.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackbarnett@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:25:58 -0000 yes, that is my setup. hrm... well, I disabled the firewall completely, restarted, but still doesn't work. I have gateway and natd both enabled. x10 is the "external" interface (the one that is dhcp and connects to the cable modem). I don't want to redirect anything to my windows box. I just want anything that connects out from my windows box to be able to connect or send data back in. For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ port. The server will send data back on ABC. The problem, from what I can tell; is that I can get a connection out - but when the server tries to send data back on ABC it is discarded. Polytropon wrote: If I understood you correctly, your setting is: (Modem/Router)---DHCP---(FreeBSD)---("Windows") I may respond directly on your configuration settings: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:31 -0500, Jack Barnett [1] wro te: gateway_enable="YES" #firewall_enable="YES" #firewall_type="open" firewall_type="simple" #firewall_type="open" firewall_logging="YES" Use instead: gateway_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="xl0" You may add special redirect directives to NATD's settings, such as natd_flags="-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:5900 5900" natd_flags="-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.5:23 6666" or natd_flags="-redirect_address 192.168.1.2 141.44.165.58 \ -redirect_address 192.168.1.5 141.44.165.58" Examples taken from a very old configuration. :-) Then, firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf" Then, be sure to have nice firewall settings, you can use things similar to this, enabling just the services you really need and want, it's easy to write your own one or to rewrite this: -f flush add divert natd ip from any to any via xl0 add allow tcp from any to any ftp in recv xl0 add allow tcp from any to any ssh in recv xl0 add allow tcp from any to any auth in recv xl0 add allow udp from any to any ntp in recv xl0 add allow udp from any to any ntalk in recv xl0 add deny udp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 add reset tcp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 add allow ipencap from any to any add allow ip from any to any This should work fine. NB to use the correct interface names. References 1. mailto:jackbarnett@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:35:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B977106568F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D3E8FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-52-25.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.52.25]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC34150DB2 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:35:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U2Z4F3004244 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:35:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:35:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20081030033504.63973d33.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Building an inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:35:07 -0000 Hi again, coming back to my problem with the inode of my home directory having disappeared, I found out that the tool ffs2recov from the ports is able to establish an inode entry for a directory where you can explicitely name the inode and the directory. I know which inode number my former home directory had, and of course I know its name. Would it be sufficient to % fs2recov -c 12345 -n poly ad0s1f.dd I think there's more to establish an intact directory structure. As far as I've already learned, when "walking back" the path from a file deep within a directory structure, every inode contains a field "where it comes from", let's say, where CWD and .. are (as an inode number): bla.txt dingens/ foo/ poly/ / 12380 -----> 12370 -----> 12360 -----> 12345 -----> 2 This would be /home/poly/foo/dingens/bla.txt on ad0s1f (where / is then mounted as /home). When I can assume that every inode still knows "where it came from", what would be a useful tool to build poly/ (12345) again? I think I'll need to construct its content again, because just by creating poly/ as 12345, where does the filesystem know from what's the content of poly/? Is the term "directory slots" I came across related to that topic? Which sources could give good hints? Sadly, fsck_ffs doesn't do the job... but maybe if I fix the file system a bit (instead of fixing fsck_ffs)...? Hey, it's not that I try to build my own nuclear plant in the living room... :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:44:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5849C1065690 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92B78FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9U2i9Bw078187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:44:09 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id m9U2iYuh039544; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:44:34 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:44:34 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200810300244.m9U2iYuh039544@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: robin@reportlab.com In-reply-to: <4908A71C.9050104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> (message from Robin Becker on Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:10:36 +0000) References: <4908A71C.9050104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no reverse dns X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:44:46 -0000 Hi, > Oct 29 17:14:39 int kernel: arplookup ww.xx.yy.zz failed: host is not on local > network > > We have an external router connected as a dhcp server at 192.168.0.2 which > apparently has external address ww.xx.yy.zz. I am using a fixed ip address ie > > 192.168.0.6 > > I have this in my rc.conf > > defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" > hostname="int.myoffice.com" > ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > and have dns mapping int.myoffice.com --> ww.xx.yy.zz, but our ISP will not make > the reverse mapping. I assume that we're trying to reverse lookup something and > the lack of reverse dns is causing this issue. > > What can I add to my rc.conf to stop this arplookup problem? Hummm, I don't think that it is related to reverse dns. ARP is trying to map the IP address ww.xx.yy.zz with the MAC address. Your FreeBSD machine is on your private network, so when it is trying to access ww.xx.yy.zz (public IP) it should only redirect that to the router, and ARP would be maping the IP address of the router. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:47:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8A8106567A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2729B8FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yo9z1a0030lTkoCA7qnpZz; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:47:49 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yqnn1a0082P6wsM8QqnnoR; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:47:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=nssttpSUU9OOIpxhAewA:9 a=3Yj1FRcvAzD6x4w0omuLynq3kOkA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2135DC9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:47:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20081030024747.GA93338@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081030033504.63973d33.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030033504.63973d33.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Building an inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:47:50 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 03:35:04AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Hi again, > This is really a question for -fs or -hackers. -questions is for generic stuff -- what you're doing is fairly low-level. Try re-posting your question to -fs, wait a week, then try -hackers. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:55:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CB6106567B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CC68FC25 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716421CCC8; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:59 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1N0+ccRq7ogx; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:58 +1100 (EST) Received: from got.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C76021CC58; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:58 +1100 (EST) Received: from eth4207.vic.adsl.internode.on.net (eth4207.vic.adsl.internode.on.net [150.101.153.110]) by webmail.tabmow.info (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:58 +1100 Message-ID: <20081030133658.79084brlqjxwpv6s@webmail.tabmow.info> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:58 +1100 From: Terry Sposato To: jackbarnett@gmail.com References: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> <20081030031231.8a5fccb9.freebsd@edvax.de> <49091B32.9060306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49091B32.9060306@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-6.3 Cc: Polytropon , Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:55:36 -0000 Quoting Jack Barnett : > > yes, that is my setup. > hrm... well, I disabled the firewall completely, restarted, but still > doesn't work. > I have gateway and natd both enabled. x10 is the "external" interface > (the one that is dhcp and connects to the cable modem). > I don't want to redirect anything to my windows box. I just want > anything that connects out from my windows box to be able to connect > or send data back in. > For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ > port. The server will send data back on ABC. > The problem, from what I can tell; is that I can get a connection out > - but when the server tries to send data back on ABC it is discarded. > Polytropon wrote: > > If I understood you correctly, your setting is: > > (Modem/Router)---DHCP---(FreeBSD)---("Windows") > > I may respond directly on your configuration settings: > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:31 -0500, Jack Barnett =20 > [1] wro > te: > > > gateway_enable=3D"YES" > #firewall_enable=3D"YES" > #firewall_type=3D"open" > firewall_type=3D"simple" > #firewall_type=3D"open" > firewall_logging=3D"YES" > > > Use instead: > > gateway_enable=3D"YES" > natd_enable=3D"YES" > natd_interface=3D"xl0" > > You may add special redirect directives to NATD's settings, such > as > natd_flags=3D"-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:5900 5900" > natd_flags=3D"-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.5:23 6666" > > or > natd_flags=3D"-redirect_address 192.168.1.2 141.44.165.58 \ > -redirect_address 192.168.1.5 141.44.165.58" > > Examples taken from a very old configuration. :-) > > Then, > > firewall_enable=3D"YES" > firewall_type=3D"/etc/ipfw.conf" > > Then, be sure to have nice firewall settings, you can use things > similar to this, enabling just the services you really need and want, > it's easy to write your own one or to rewrite this: > > -f flush > add divert natd ip from any to any via xl0 > add allow tcp from any to any ftp in recv xl0 > add allow tcp from any to any ssh in recv xl0 > add allow tcp from any to any auth in recv xl0 > add allow udp from any to any ntp in recv xl0 > add allow udp from any to any ntalk in recv xl0 > add deny udp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 > add reset tcp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 > add allow ipencap from any to any > add allow ip from any to any > > This should work fine. NB to use the correct interface names. > > References > > 1. mailto:jackbarnett@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > Jack, It is most likely caused by your ruleset not being stateful. If =20 packets are going out certain sessions and your firewall isn't then =20 allowing back in you would see the issue you are seeing. I am not sure =20 how this is accomplished via ipfw as I use pf but there would be a =20 tonne of documentation out there on how to make your rules stateful. Regards, Terry Sposato terry@sucked-in.com Have you been sucked in? http://www.sucked-in.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- This message was sent from the Sucked In Webmail Interface - =20 http://www.sucked-in.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 02:59:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D9B1065677 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8F78FC29 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-23-190.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.23.190]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4377350D5C; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:59:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U2xu6I005187; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:59:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:59:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-Id: <20081030035956.38e5f82a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081030024747.GA93338@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081030033504.63973d33.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081030024747.GA93338@icarus.home.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Building an inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:59:59 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:47:47 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > This is really a question for -fs or -hackers. -questions is > for generic stuff -- what you're doing is fairly low-level. > > Try re-posting your question to -fs, wait a week, then try -hackers. I'll do that, thanks! I hope I'll be able to understand the answers because I'm quite new to low-level stuff. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 03:25:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B511106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08A98FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yd2j1a0020xGWP853rRVlr; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:25:29 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YrRn1a00H2P6wsM3YrRnC2; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:25:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=YFsg-46_QAesHMG8l2MA:9 a=HY_CwE9cLNhNhMvPQ58A:7 a=HX1pHrb2cSBwI_-9jrsGS8Wno6gA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 21229C9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:25:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Terry Sposato Message-ID: <20081030032547.GA93923@icarus.home.lan> References: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> <20081030031231.8a5fccb9.freebsd@edvax.de> <49091B32.9060306@gmail.com> <20081030133658.79084brlqjxwpv6s@webmail.tabmow.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030133658.79084brlqjxwpv6s@webmail.tabmow.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: jackbarnett@gmail.com, Polytropon , Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:25:50 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:36:58PM +1100, Terry Sposato wrote: > Quoting Jack Barnett : > >> >> yes, that is my setup. >> hrm... well, I disabled the firewall completely, restarted, but still >> doesn't work. >> I have gateway and natd both enabled. x10 is the "external" interface >> (the one that is dhcp and connects to the cable modem). >> I don't want to redirect anything to my windows box. I just want >> anything that connects out from my windows box to be able to connect >> or send data back in. >> For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ >> port. The server will send data back on ABC. >> The problem, from what I can tell; is that I can get a connection out >> - but when the server tries to send data back on ABC it is discarded. >> Polytropon wrote: >> >> If I understood you correctly, your setting is: >> >> (Modem/Router)---DHCP---(FreeBSD)---("Windows") >> >> I may respond directly on your configuration settings: >> >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:31 -0500, Jack Barnett >> [1] wro >> te: >> >> >> gateway_enable="YES" >> #firewall_enable="YES" >> #firewall_type="open" >> firewall_type="simple" >> #firewall_type="open" >> firewall_logging="YES" >> >> >> Use instead: >> >> gateway_enable="YES" >> natd_enable="YES" >> natd_interface="xl0" >> >> You may add special redirect directives to NATD's settings, such >> as >> natd_flags="-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:5900 5900" >> natd_flags="-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.5:23 6666" >> >> or >> natd_flags="-redirect_address 192.168.1.2 141.44.165.58 \ >> -redirect_address 192.168.1.5 141.44.165.58" >> >> Examples taken from a very old configuration. :-) >> >> Then, >> >> firewall_enable="YES" >> firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf" >> >> Then, be sure to have nice firewall settings, you can use things >> similar to this, enabling just the services you really need and want, >> it's easy to write your own one or to rewrite this: >> >> -f flush >> add divert natd ip from any to any via xl0 >> add allow tcp from any to any ftp in recv xl0 >> add allow tcp from any to any ssh in recv xl0 >> add allow tcp from any to any auth in recv xl0 >> add allow udp from any to any ntp in recv xl0 >> add allow udp from any to any ntalk in recv xl0 >> add deny udp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 >> add reset tcp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 >> add allow ipencap from any to any >> add allow ip from any to any >> >> This should work fine. NB to use the correct interface names. >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:jackbarnett@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Jack, > > It is most likely caused by your ruleset not being stateful. If packets > are going out certain sessions and your firewall isn't then allowing back > in you would see the issue you are seeing. I am not sure how this is > accomplished via ipfw as I use pf but there would be a tonne of > documentation out there on how to make your rules stateful. Are you sure about that? Read his statement once more: >> For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ >> port. The server will send data back on ABC. I assume based on this, the following is happening: - 192.168.x.x:aaaaa sends packet to gameserver:xyz - NAT gateway translates packet (where "natgw" is a public WAN IP) 192.168.x.x:aaaaa <--> natgw:bbbbb <--> gameserver:xyz - gameserver sees packet to port xyz, and initiates new connection to natgw:abc - NAT gateway drops packet destined to WAN IP port abc, because the gameserver:abc connection is *new*, and does not relate to the previous NAT'd gameserver:xyz connection. If this is **truly** how the protocol works (the OP will need to be absolutely 100% positive of that fact; I recommend he reconfirm how it works), then the only solution is to set up a port forward on the NAT gateway for port abc to point to 192.168.x.x. This also means that only one computer on the LAN will be capable of playing this game. Not much one can do about that, other than write the authors of the game and explain that their protocol is absolutely disgusting. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 03:36:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97767106568D; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [210.11.55.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4E38FC1E; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E71529D9A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:48:54 +1030 (CST) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97564-03; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:48:51 +1030 (CST) Received: from SELBrendan (lnk11.adl9.adsl.esc.net.au [123.136.46.11]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362D2529C70; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:48:51 +1030 (CST) From: "Brendan Hart" To: "'Jeremy Chadwick'" References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> <20081030015517.GA92091@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081030015517.GA92091@icarus.home.lan> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:04:36 +1030 Message-ID: <022a01c93a40$6f16e860$4d44b920$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack6MCiNjRdE5dXMSo+h+CVH7BNjrgADRnQg Content-Language: en-au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:36:15 -0000 On Thu 30/10/2008 12:25 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> Could the "missing" space be an indication of hardware disk issues i.e. >> physical blocks marked as bad? >The simple answer is no, bad blocks would not cause what you're seeing. >smartctl -a /dev/disk will help you determine if there's evidence the disk is in bad shape. I can help you with reading SMART stats if need be. I took a look at using the smart tools as you suggested, but have now found that the disk in question is a RAID1 set on a DELL PERC 3/Di controller and smartctl does not appear to be the correct tool to access the SMART data for the individual disks. After a little research, I have found the aaccli tool and used it to get the following information: AAC0> disk show smart Executing: disk show smart Smart Method of Enable Capable Informational Exception Performance Error B:ID:L Device Exceptions(MRIE) Control Enabled Count ------ ------- ---------------- --------- ----------- ------ 0:00:0 Y 6 Y N 0 0:01:0 Y 6 Y N 0 AAC0> disk show defects 00 Executing: disk show defects (ID=0) Number of PRIMARY defects on drive: 285 Number of GROWN defects on drive: 0 AAC0> disk show defects 01 Executing: disk show defects (ID=1) Number of PRIMARY defects on drive: 193 Number of GROWN defects on drive: 0 This output doesn't seem to indicate existing physical issues on the disks. > Since you booted single-user and presumably ran fsck -f /usr, and nothing came back, I'm left to believe this isn't filesystem corruption. Yes, this is the command I tried when I went into the data centre yesterday, and yes, nothing came back. I have done some additional digging and noticed that there is a /usr/.snap folder present. "ls -al" shows no content however. Some quick searching shows this could possibly be part of a UFS snapshot... I wonder if partition snapshots might be the cause of my major disk space "loss". Some old message group posts suggest that UFS snapshots were dangerously flakey on Release 6.1, so I would hope that my predecessors were not using them however... Do you know anything about snapshots, and how I could see what/if any/ space is used by snapshots? I also took a look to see if the issue could be something like running out of inodes, But this does't seem to be the case: #: df -ih /usr Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.1G 96% 708181 3107241 19% /usr BTW Jeremy, thanks for your help thus far. I will wait and see if any other list member has any suggestions for me to try, but I am now leaning toward scrubbing the system. Oh well. Best Regards, Brendan Hart --------------------------------- Brendan Hart, Development Manager Strategic Ecommerce Division Securepay Pty Ltd Phone: 08-8274-4000 Fax: 08-8274-1400 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3568 (20081030) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 03:43:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44218106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E44F8FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id E20CE16B4FE; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:19:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.90]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C6B916B4C5 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:19:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:10:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:10:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081029220740.B40667@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=10.0 tests=OACYS_SINGLE,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Disable gnome-keyring how? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:43:13 -0000 Has anyone had any luck disabling the gnome keyring? It does nothing I am interested in and it spends many machine cycles trying to start hal, which also seems to be something useless. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 04:03:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEAB106567F; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961D98FC33; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-23-190.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.23.190]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E85C50BC9; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:03:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U43bdL001506; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:03:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:03:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-Id: <20081030050337.0fb7df5e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081030024747.GA93338@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081030033504.63973d33.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081030024747.GA93338@icarus.home.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Building an inode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:03:40 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:47:47 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Try re-posting your question to -fs, wait a week, then try -hackers. Thank you for this advice, I'll do that - after rewriting the message I prepared. I'm stupid: writing a message and experimenting with ffs2recov is a bad idea. :-) panic: ffs_write: type 0xc5d37e04 0 (0,16384) Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 04:07:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397CB1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF198FC17 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YkYr1a0031HzFnQ54s7wCN; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:07:56 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ys7u1a0072P6wsM3as7vCb; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:07:56 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L6qYQmhLVqQA:10 a=_bM8OcOcC78A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=L-tbIdcn-du-ehm-eE8A:9 a=QBj64gOG6QC9j-ohbpIA:7 a=wTUG_KFnFWa2i_y9_RorGby0TKcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C9E4C9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:07:54 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Brendan Hart Message-ID: <20081030040754.GA94642@icarus.home.lan> References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> <20081030015517.GA92091@icarus.home.lan> <022a01c93a40$6f16e860$4d44b920$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <022a01c93a40$6f16e860$4d44b920$@com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:07:57 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 02:04:36PM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > On Thu 30/10/2008 12:25 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> Could the "missing" space be an indication of hardware disk issues i.e. > >> physical blocks marked as bad? > > >The simple answer is no, bad blocks would not cause what you're seeing. > >smartctl -a /dev/disk will help you determine if there's evidence the disk > is in bad shape. I can help you with reading SMART stats if need be. > > I took a look at using the smart tools as you suggested, but have now found > that the disk in question is a RAID1 set on a DELL PERC 3/Di controller and > smartctl does not appear to be the correct tool to access the SMART data for > the individual disks. After a little research, I have found the aaccli tool > and used it to get the following information: Sadly, that controller does not show you SMART attributes. This is one of the biggest problems with the majority (but not all) of hardware RAID controllers -- they give you no access to disk-level things like SMART. FreeBSD has support for such (using CAM's pass(4)), but the driver has to support/use it, *and* the card firmware has to support it. At present, Areca, 3Ware, and Promise controllers support such; HighPoint might, but I haven't confirmed it. Adaptec does not. What you showed tells me nothing about SMART, other than the remote possibility its basing some of its decisions on the "general SMART health status", which means jack squat. I can explain why this is if need be, but it's not related to the problem you're having. Either way, this is just one of many reasons to avoid hardware RAID controllers if given the choice. > AAC0> disk show defects 00 > Executing: disk show defects (ID=0) > Number of PRIMARY defects on drive: 285 > Number of GROWN defects on drive: 0 > > AAC0> disk show defects 01 > Executing: disk show defects (ID=1) > Number of PRIMARY defects on drive: 193 > Number of GROWN defects on drive: 0 > > This output doesn't seem to indicate existing physical issues on the disks. I hope these are SCSI disks you're showing here, otherwise I'm not sure how the controller is able to get the primary defect count of a SATA or SAS disk. So, assuming the numbers shown are accurate, then yes, I don't think there's any disk-level problem. > I have done some additional digging and noticed that there is a /usr/.snap > folder present. "ls -al" shows no content however. Some quick searching > shows this could possibly be part of a UFS snapshot... Correct; the .snap directory is used for UFS2 snapshots and mksnap_ffs(8) (which is also the program dump -L uses). > I wonder if partition snapshots might be the cause of my major disk > space "loss". Your /usr/.snap directory is empty; there are no snapshots. That said, are you actually making filesystem snapshots using dump or mksnap_ffs? If not, then you're barking up the wrong tree. :-) > I also took a look to see if the issue could be something like running out > of inodes, But this does't seem to be the case: > > #: df -ih /usr > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted > on > /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.1G 96% 708181 3107241 19% /usr inodes != disk space, but I'm pretty sure you know that. I understand at this point you're running around with your arms in the air, but you've already confirmed one thing: none of your other systems exhibit this problem. If this is a production environment, step back a moment and ask yourself: "just how much time is this worth?" It might be better to just newfs the filesystem and be done with it, especially if this is a one-time-never-seen-before thing. > I will wait and see if any other list member has any suggestions for me to > try, but I am now leaning toward scrubbing the system. Oh well. When you say scrubbing, are you referring to actually formatting/wiping the system, or are you referring to disk scrubbing? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 04:20:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A0106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915108FC1E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142041CCE0; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:08 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iyIAX97NZBDc; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:07 +1100 (EST) Received: from got.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id ACE191CCCA; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:07 +1100 (EST) Received: from eth4207.vic.adsl.internode.on.net (eth4207.vic.adsl.internode.on.net [150.101.153.110]) by webmail.tabmow.info (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:07 +1100 Message-ID: <20081030152007.75514asofimxjqio@webmail.tabmow.info> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:07 +1100 From: Terry Sposato To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> <20081030031231.8a5fccb9.freebsd@edvax.de> <49091B32.9060306@gmail.com> <20081030133658.79084brlqjxwpv6s@webmail.tabmow.info> <20081030032547.GA93923@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081030032547.GA93923@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-6.3 Cc: jackbarnett@gmail.com, Polytropon , Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:20:08 -0000 Quoting Jeremy Chadwick : > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:36:58PM +1100, Terry Sposato wrote: >> Quoting Jack Barnett : >> >>> >>> yes, that is my setup. >>> hrm... well, I disabled the firewall completely, restarted, but still >>> doesn't work. >>> I have gateway and natd both enabled. x10 is the "external" interfac= e >>> (the one that is dhcp and connects to the cable modem). >>> I don't want to redirect anything to my windows box. I just want >>> anything that connects out from my windows box to be able to connect >>> or send data back in. >>> For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ >>> port. The server will send data back on ABC. >>> The problem, from what I can tell; is that I can get a connection out >>> - but when the server tries to send data back on ABC it is discarded. >>> Polytropon wrote: >>> >>> If I understood you correctly, your setting is: >>> >>> (Modem/Router)---DHCP---(FreeBSD)---("Windows") >>> >>> I may respond directly on your configuration settings: >>> >>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:19:31 -0500, Jack Barnett >>> [1] wro >>> te: >>> >>> >>> gateway_enable=3D"YES" >>> #firewall_enable=3D"YES" >>> #firewall_type=3D"open" >>> firewall_type=3D"simple" >>> #firewall_type=3D"open" >>> firewall_logging=3D"YES" >>> >>> >>> Use instead: >>> >>> gateway_enable=3D"YES" >>> natd_enable=3D"YES" >>> natd_interface=3D"xl0" >>> >>> You may add special redirect directives to NATD's settings, such >>> as >>> natd_flags=3D"-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.2:5900 5900" >>> natd_flags=3D"-redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.5:23 6666" >>> >>> or >>> natd_flags=3D"-redirect_address 192.168.1.2 141.44.165.58 \ >>> -redirect_address 192.168.1.5 141.44.165.58" >>> >>> Examples taken from a very old configuration. :-) >>> >>> Then, >>> >>> firewall_enable=3D"YES" >>> firewall_type=3D"/etc/ipfw.conf" >>> >>> Then, be sure to have nice firewall settings, you can use things >>> similar to this, enabling just the services you really need and want, >>> it's easy to write your own one or to rewrite this: >>> >>> -f flush >>> add divert natd ip from any to any via xl0 >>> add allow tcp from any to any ftp in recv xl0 >>> add allow tcp from any to any ssh in recv xl0 >>> add allow tcp from any to any auth in recv xl0 >>> add allow udp from any to any ntp in recv xl0 >>> add allow udp from any to any ntalk in recv xl0 >>> add deny udp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 >>> add reset tcp from any to any x11 in recv xl0 >>> add allow ipencap from any to any >>> add allow ip from any to any >>> >>> This should work fine. NB to use the correct interface names. >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. mailto:jackbarnett@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to =20 >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> Jack, >> >> It is most likely caused by your ruleset not being stateful. If packets >> are going out certain sessions and your firewall isn't then allowing back >> in you would see the issue you are seeing. I am not sure how this is >> accomplished via ipfw as I use pf but there would be a tonne of >> documentation out there on how to make your rules stateful. > > Are you sure about that? Read his statement once more: > >>> For example, I load up a client (game) and it connects out on XYZ >>> port. The server will send data back on ABC. Ahh yes correct, I was going on the assumption that the traffic is =20 trying to return using the same session details. This is usually how =20 it is with gaming traffic and the non stateful ruleset is usually the =20 cause of why this sort of traffic get's blocked. Would like to see if =20 the OP has actually sniffed the traffic and can say without a shadow =20 of a doubt that different ports are being used ingoing & outgoing. > > I assume based on this, the following is happening: > > - 192.168.x.x:aaaaa sends packet to gameserver:xyz > > - NAT gateway translates packet (where "natgw" is a public WAN IP) > > 192.168.x.x:aaaaa <--> natgw:bbbbb <--> gameserver:xyz > > - gameserver sees packet to port xyz, and initiates new connection > to natgw:abc > > - NAT gateway drops packet destined to WAN IP port abc, because the > gameserver:abc connection is *new*, and does not relate to the > previous NAT'd gameserver:xyz connection. > > If this is **truly** how the protocol works (the OP will need to be > absolutely 100% positive of that fact; I recommend he reconfirm how it > works), then the only solution is to set up a port forward on the NAT > gateway for port abc to point to 192.168.x.x. > > This also means that only one computer on the LAN will be capable of > playing this game. Not much one can do about that, other than write > the authors of the game and explain that their protocol is absolutely > disgusting. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > Regards, Terry Sposato terry@sucked-in.com Have you been sucked in? http://www.sucked-in.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- This message was sent from the Sucked In Webmail Interface - =20 http://www.sucked-in.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 04:54:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859A21065674; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s4.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s4.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD478FC1E; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.244]) by bay0-omc2-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:54:35 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:54:35 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:54:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: cperciva@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:54:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2008 04:54:35.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AFF4A70:01C93A4B] Cc: fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update "can't find update.FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:54:36 -0000 Colin Percival wrote: >RW wrote: >>With portsnap the default server is itself one of the servers on the >>SRV list, so portsnap should fall-back to a working server even when >>DNS is unavailable (behind a proxy) or screwed-up by a router etc. >> >>I dont see a reason why update.FreeBSD.org shouldn't have the >>same A-record as update1.FreeBSD.org, so that it "just works". > >With portsnap, I asked for the A record to be created not as a fallback >for people with broken DNS, but instead as a backwards compatibility >mechanism for people who were running old versions of portsnap which >didn't do SRV lookups. To be honest, I didn't realize that there were >so many people with broken DNS resolution. > >I'll ask the FreeBSD DNS admins to add an A record for update.freebsd.org. > >Colin Percival I had up until now been transparently benefiting from that "non-fallback" legacy A record for portsnap as well. Thanks for looking into this. I am personally amazed that an issue caused by a misconfiguration on my end could result in changes on the FreeBSD DNS servers to avoid similar issues for others. Kudos to FreeBSD support! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 04:59:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D771065676 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from mailgate.neusoft.com (mailgate.neusoft.com [210.83.25.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F4E8FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangsc@neusoft.com) Received: from smtp.neusoft.com ([202.107.117.28]) by mailgate.neusoft.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9U4b0cW001704 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:00 +0800 Received: from user863c0bf569 ([192.168.131.63]) by smtp.neusoft.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTPPSA id <0K9J00H6JBHQJ7@smtp.neusoft.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:02 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:36:22 +0800 From: Edward King To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <00d301c93a49$0fec2e50$3f83a8c0@user863c0bf569> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Neusoft-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Neusoft-MailScanner: Found to be clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: where is syslogd log? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:59:16 -0000 I call syslog(),LOG_USER with Unix C language,it should write a message in /var/adm/messages in Solaris,such as "connected from 10.1.1.2" ,I want to know which file in FreeBSD?I look for /var/log/messages,I don't find my message "connected from 10.1.1.2" in this file. Why? My syslog.conf is follows: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/syslog.conf,v 1.28 2005/03/12 12:31:16 glebius Exp $ # # Spaces ARE valid field separators in this file. However, # other *nix-like systems still insist on using tabs as field # separators. 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Thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 06:04:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EABB1065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96A48FC1E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k0802647@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([204.209.205.55]) by priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081030060438.EEHR11109.priv-edmwes33.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:04:38 -0600 Received: from oliver.bc.lan (d75-157-26-132.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.26.132]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 8DB304253838A2CF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.111.111.112] (unknown [10.111.111.112]) by oliver.bc.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0012645D for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49094E75.7040405@telus.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:04:37 -0700 From: Carl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4904346E.80907@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <4904346E.80907@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gmirror + subset of partitions gjournal'd, autosync setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:04:40 -0000 Carl wrote: > I've built a GEOM mirror on a single slice of a single disk and am about > to insert the second disk. Of the partitions in the mirror, I made only > a few of them gjournal'd. I've seen it recommended that one disable > autosynchronization for the mirror if using journaled filesystems. > > 1. Is that recommendation a must or a nice-to-have? What are the actual > consequences of not taking that advice? > > 2. In a case like mine, the non-journaled partitions need > autosychronization enabled to benefit from being mirrored, right? > > 3. Exactly how would I disable autosynchronization for the journaled > partitions in the mirror, but not for the rest? Can no one help me with this question? Carl / K0802647 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 06:05:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84D3106568B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C9F8FC24 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-23-190.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.23.190]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E1716C0123 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:05:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U64xUd003680 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:05:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:04:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20081030070459.11029e7b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Status line for text mode console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:05:02 -0000 Some question, inspired by my mainframe time... Is there a port that allows FreeBSD to be equipped with some kind of status line when using the shell on a text mode console? With "status line" I mean some automagically updating text line that informs about... date, time, terminal, actual system load, number of users logged in or another status, for example like this: poly@pups:~/src/bla% _ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- poly@pups.host.com:ttyv2 (3) .:I <= => 2008-11-30 07:02:15 For example, the status line sits in line 25, line 24 contains a barrier, and the shell runs on lines 1 - 23. Is there anything comparable? Or do I have to write my own? :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 06:08:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC431065679 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437FA8FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ytpc1a0010x6nqcA5u8Rug; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:08:25 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yu8Q1a0082P6wsM8Yu8RGN; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:08:25 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AWlkLcwNO8UA:10 a=mN9y0P9EPBwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=-L-DVQYoh9sNK1RFeFIA:9 a=uXCdZ3vHZfdCuNorVfJV2PT__skA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A807CC9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:08:24 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Carl Message-ID: <20081030060824.GA97010@icarus.home.lan> References: <4904346E.80907@telus.net> <49094E75.7040405@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49094E75.7040405@telus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror + subset of partitions gjournal'd, autosync setting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:08:26 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:04:37PM -0700, Carl wrote: > Carl wrote: >> I've built a GEOM mirror on a single slice of a single disk and am >> about to insert the second disk. Of the partitions in the mirror, I >> made only a few of them gjournal'd. I've seen it recommended that one >> disable autosynchronization for the mirror if using journaled >> filesystems. >> >> 1. Is that recommendation a must or a nice-to-have? What are the actual >> consequences of not taking that advice? >> >> 2. In a case like mine, the non-journaled partitions need >> autosychronization enabled to benefit from being mirrored, right? >> >> 3. Exactly how would I disable autosynchronization for the journaled >> partitions in the mirror, but not for the rest? > > Can no one help me with this question? Are you aware of the freebsd-fs list? freebsd-questions is mainly for generic "How do I use ls(1)?" questions. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 06:10:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B2E1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4CE8FC2E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yaqp1a0050vp7WLA1uA3TX; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:10:03 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YuA21a0052P6wsM8RuA2A2; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:10:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=jjfRG4CO4CEFM3pBdckA:9 a=NV4y2dqlySPsli8r7ugA:7 a=f2CgSM9uJsDJcEUr_3ffJiQZ5ZYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86CD3C9419; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:10:02 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20081030061002.GB97010@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081030070459.11029e7b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030070459.11029e7b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Status line for text mode console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:10:04 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 07:04:59AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Some question, inspired by my mainframe time... > > Is there a port that allows FreeBSD to be equipped with some kind > of status line when using the shell on a text mode console? With > "status line" I mean some automagically updating text line that > informs about... date, time, terminal, actual system load, number > of users logged in or another status, for example like this: > > poly@pups:~/src/bla% _ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > poly@pups.host.com:ttyv2 (3) .:I <= => 2008-11-30 07:02:15 > > For example, the status line sits in line 25, line 24 contains > a barrier, and the shell runs on lines 1 - 23. > > Is there anything comparable? Or do I have to write my own? :-) Sounds like something screen(1) offers. See sysutils/screen. In general, this is really not something the *operating system* offers, or the shell. This is often the responsibility of a third-party program that manipulates the pty. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 06:47:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7581065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A268FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KvRJx-0005Nw-FU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:47:53 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.174.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:47:53 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:47:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:47:03 -0400 Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908ADD4.90000@gmail.com> <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908B955.4050409@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:47:58 -0000 pwn wrote: [snip] >>> on this page >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html >>> it says: >>> Tip: By default, when you build a custom kernel, all kernel modules will >>> be rebuilt as well. If you want to update a kernel faster or to build >>> only custom modules, you should edit /etc/make.conf before starting to >>> build the kernel: >>> >> >> It would take more time to edit /etc/make.conf than you would >> save in the kernel build. If you are doing lots of kernel >> builds while doing development, maybe then this would be worthwhile, >> but kernel builds do not take enough time on modern machines to >> bother speeding them up trivial amounts. Basically, this is >> saying you can fix things up so that it only builds those modules >> that you are changing when you do a rebuild and skips the others. >> >> This is not relevant to general system performance, just kernel >> builds. [snip] > > i got it =), although, imho kernel builds always affect system > performance.(maybe not in general) > i was just asking myself a away for simplify at extreme this tasks that > sometime can take many time, i guess after configure FreeBSD on a > machine i should copy some configuration files like, /etc/make.conf and > a custom kernel in attempt to avoid repetitive tasks. Note the docs are a little out of date wrt to 7.x and newer. While the make.conf will still be used by gcc when building ports software(s), for the system/kernel/modules this functionality has been moved to /etc/src.conf. Reading man src.conf will explain the details. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 07:30:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F2E106567B; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from relay.sw.ru (mailhub.sw.ru [195.214.232.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902C08FC18; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru ([10.30.1.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by relay.sw.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m9U7UFPD009067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:30:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KvRyw-000139-Q1; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:30:14 +0300 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de In-Reply-To: <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SWsoft Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:30:14 +0300 Message-Id: <1225351814.1712.57.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vova@fbsd.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:30:33 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:05 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed > on both systems. It is strange, that exactly same site works fine for me with native ff3 under 8-CURRENT. > Gary Jennejohn -- Vladimir B. Grebenchikov vova@fbsd.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 08:18:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDACA106567E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997C28FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08F51CC91; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:59:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id wDYvHuIRvqLX; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:59:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-212.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.212]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861F11CC8D; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:59:01 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: , "Freebsd questions" References: <49090BA3.5090407@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:59:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 Cc: Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:18:45 -0000 Hi Jack! > Right now I have a Windows machine a FreeBSD natd/firewall then a > cable modem. > This is working for web surfing. But I've been playing a lot of=20 > games > lately and it doesn't work at all (for multiplayer/internet=20 > games). As a fellow gamer, I've found that PF with stateful filtering has been=20 a good firewall for my needs. Usually with stateful ruleset the games=20 work out of the box, just when outgoing traffic is allowed and state=20 is kept. There are some special situations where PF shines though,=20 Asherons Call (or any other game using bidirectional UDP traffic) can=20 be made to work with following configuration: This to nat section: binat on $ext_if from to -> $ext_if Which should do the trick with some of the silly games out there using=20 standard defined, but really rare kind of traffic. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 08:30:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2AF1065689; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5A8FC1A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-23-190.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.23.190]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AD850F30; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:30:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9U8UG0s009884; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:30:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:30:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-Id: <20081030093015.2188f1f0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081030061002.GB97010@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081030070459.11029e7b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081030061002.GB97010@icarus.home.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Status line for text mode console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:30:19 -0000 On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:10:02 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Sounds like something screen(1) offers. See sysutils/screen. Much too complicated. :-) I'm using screen on a daily basis to manage multiple SSH sessions (very comfortable tool), but for something that should run locally (a local terminal session) it doesn't seem to be the right tool. > In general, this is really not something the *operating system* offers, > or the shell. This is often the responsibility of a third-party > program that manipulates the pty. That's a correct consideration. Maybe I have some ideas running a shell, along with some Ncurses stuff... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 09:13:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A04A106568A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout5.freenet.de (mout5.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2458FC2F; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.10] (helo=0.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KvTas-00074E-8c; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:13:30 +0100 Received: from rbd76.r.pppool.de ([89.54.189.118]:41267 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 0.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #68) id 1KvTas-0000wy-0M; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:13:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:13:27 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: vova@fbsd.ru Message-ID: <20081030101327.32a0c275@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <1225351814.1712.57.camel@localhost> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> <1225351814.1712.57.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:13:34 -0000 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:30:14 +0300 Vladimir Grebenschikov wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:05 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed > > on both systems. > > It is strange, that exactly same site works fine for me with native ff3 > under 8-CURRENT. > Well, I was thinking about this. I am running an up-to-date FF2, but my 8-current kernel and linux-base fc8 are not the most recent versions. That might explain why some people don't see any problems whereaas I do. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 09:39:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525BF1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@oak-wood.co.uk) Received: from ash.oak-wood.co.uk (ash.oak-wood.co.uk [62.3.200.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41A78FC1E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@oak-wood.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ash.oak-wood.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8305BCF47 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:19:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ash.oak-wood.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ash.oak-wood.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 55467-08 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:19:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.37.233] (bluebell.thegrove.oak-wood.co.uk [192.168.37.233]) by ash.oak-wood.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 86267BCEB0 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:19:49 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <49097C34.3030608@oak-wood.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:19:48 +0000 From: Chris Hastie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080925 Thunderbird/2.0.0.17 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Setting a different default source address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:39:48 -0000 Is it possible to set a default source address on a machine? I have an ADSL connection with a fixed IP and a further /29 routed to it. Until recently I used an ADSL router which acquired the connection IP, and then the first of the /29 on the internal interface. In an effort to conserve both IPs and the number of machines I have running I have recently changed to using an ADSL modem (Vigor Draytek 110) which essentially does no more than change the PPPoA to PPPoE. A FreeBSD machine then handles the connection using ppp. The machine in question has always used one of the /29 addresses, and continues to do so (this is assigned to its DMZ facing NIC, vr0). Now, of course, outgoing packets are using the connection address, which is assigned to tun0. Whilst I can override this on an application by application basis for many things (eg postfix smtp_bind_address parameter, ping -S switch) is there any way to override it system wide, so that the address from the /29 is used by default? I think I succeeded in doing something similar for an IPv6 tunnel by not assigning an IP address to gif0 and configuring the routing as follows in rc.conf: ipv6_defaultrouter="-interface gif0" But I'm not clear whether this would work with ppp, and if so, how to do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 10:51:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A2A106568A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E344A8FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yxgy1a00C0vyq2s5AyrB2i; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:51:11 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YyrB1a00F2P6wsM3RyrBlQ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:51:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=OtLvMaB0incA:10 a=AYlMsm8xYfcA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=ENZM2WAM-gBNsWK89K0A:9 a=6dis1JjRv1UywDa7Lxc825tlCL0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D83E2C9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:51:10 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Chris Hastie Message-ID: <20081030105110.GA2932@icarus.home.lan> References: <49097C34.3030608@oak-wood.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49097C34.3030608@oak-wood.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting a different default source address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:51:13 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 09:19:48AM +0000, Chris Hastie wrote: > Is it possible to set a default source address on a machine? > > I have an ADSL connection with a fixed IP and a further /29 routed to > it. Until recently I used an ADSL router which acquired the connection > IP, and then the first of the /29 on the internal interface. > > In an effort to conserve both IPs and the number of machines I have > running I have recently changed to using an ADSL modem (Vigor Draytek > 110) which essentially does no more than change the PPPoA to PPPoE. A > FreeBSD machine then handles the connection using ppp. > > The machine in question has always used one of the /29 addresses, and > continues to do so (this is assigned to its DMZ facing NIC, vr0). Now, > of course, outgoing packets are using the connection address, which is > assigned to tun0. > > Whilst I can override this on an application by application basis for > many things (eg postfix smtp_bind_address parameter, ping -S switch) is > there any way to override it system wide, so that the address from the > /29 is used by default? > > I think I succeeded in doing something similar for an IPv6 tunnel by not > assigning an IP address to gif0 and configuring the routing as follows > in rc.conf: > > ipv6_defaultrouter="-interface gif0" > > But I'm not clear whether this would work with ppp, and if so, how to do it. Try freebsd-net? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 09:04:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11871065672 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.chen@promise.com.tw) Received: from maillog.promise.com.tw (maillog.promise.com.tw [61.222.81.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF9C8FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.chen@promise.com.tw) Received: from maillog.promise.com.tw (localhost [127.0.0.2] (may be forged)) by maillog.promise.com.tw with ESMTP id m9U8cXZb037685 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:33 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from jeff.chen@promise.com.tw) Received: from exchange2007.promise.com.tw (exchange2007.promise.com.tw [192.168.202.107]) by maillog.promise.com.tw with ESMTP id m9U8cR8r037673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:27 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from jeff.chen@promise.com.tw) Received: from exchange2007.promise.com.tw ([192.168.202.107]) by exchange2007.promise.com.tw ([192.168.202.107]) with mapi; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:27 +0800 From: =?big5?B?SmVmZiBDaGVuIC0gUFRUILOvwHO1Tw==?= To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:25 +0800 Thread-Topic: iSCSI support Thread-Index: Ack6auA3TBMIg6jgQmKV8syBQue31w== Message-ID: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> Accept-Language: zh-TW, en-US Content-Language: zh-TW X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: zh-TW, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MAIL: maillog.promise.com.tw m9U8cR8r037673 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:23:11 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?big5?B?SmVmZiBDaGVuIC0gUFRUILOvwHO1Tw==?= Subject: iSCSI support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:04:23 -0000 SGksDQpNeSBjb21wYW55IGlzIGEgc3RvcmFnZSBSQUlEIHN5c3RlbSBjb21wYW55LiBUaGVyZSBp cyBvbmUgY3VzdG9tZXIgYXNrIGlTQ1NJIHNvbHV0aW9uIHdpdGggbXkgcHJvZHVjdGlvbiBvZiBt eSBjb21wYW55IHdpdGggRnJlZUJTRCA2LjEuIEJ1dCBJIGZvdW5kIHNvbWUgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24g aW4gdGhlIEludGVybmV0LCB0aGUgaVNDU0kgZnVsbCBzdXBwb3J0IG9uIEZyZWVCU0QgaXMgNy4w LiBJcyBpdCBtZWFuIEZyZWVCU0QgNi4xIGNhbqGmdCBzdXBwb3J0IGlTQ1NJPw0KDQpCUiwNCkpl ZmYNCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 11:30:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9141065679 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C198FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KvVir-00074G-0c for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:53 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:53 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:30:34 +0100 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3BB2636E9547B7E327F47D24" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) In-Reply-To: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: iSCSI support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:30:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3BB2636E9547B7E327F47D24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Chen - PTT =E9=99=B3=E9=BE=8D=E7=84=9C wrote: > Hi, > My company is a storage RAID system company. There is one customer ask = iSCSI solution with my production of my company with FreeBSD 6.1. But I f= ound some information in the Internet, the iSCSI full support on FreeBSD = is 7.0. Is it mean FreeBSD 6.1 can=E2=80=99t support iSCSI? Yes, the iSCSI initiator is in FreeBSD 7.x. Soon, FreeBSD 7.1 will be released. --------------enig3BB2636E9547B7E327F47D24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJCZrdldnAQVacBcgRAm3qAKD5ASiOo3/u9Qc6wzhgADGz0xGW6QCfXkIy jU/jCow8S+fjCyrzJptmris= =YhwU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3BB2636E9547B7E327F47D24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 11:33:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8881065678 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net (fhw-relay07.plus.net [212.159.14.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79ED8FC20 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=3bsd.cpcnw.co.uk) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1KvVmT-0006oo-4o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:34 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Graham Bentley" Organization: Custom PC North West Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.60 (FreeBSD) X-Plusnet-Relay: 1eeb753eb59bb1dc9652a15841257e15 Subject: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:33:39 -0000 Hi ALl, I have a DFI LanParty Mobo that includes Marvells 88E8052 and 88E8053 LAN IF. Using the module with 7.0 [msk] the network preformance is terrible, Opera / Links stall, or wont page load at all although pings to the router are fine? I then tried using Marvells own driver the website [myk] and the results where about the same. Just before I was about to give up and put in my trusty old 3Com 3C509 [xl] I noticed that in the Marvell doco there where several tunable params so decided to try out a few. I discovered that adding -txcsum and -rxcsum (i.e. disabling hardware checksuming) to the ifconfig statement, the performance was as quick as it is on that other OS! It seems that hw cs is on by default so I added the above to my ifoncfig line in /etc/rc.conf and now all is snappy! I was wondering how could this be the case and also if anyone else had this issue with Marvell chips? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:15:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C681065679 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6B18FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9UCF5cG012599; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9UCF4lx012596; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:04 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081030131123.S12581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:15:20 -0000 > I discovered that adding -txcsum and -rxcsum (i.e. > disabling hardware checksuming) to the ifconfig > statement, the performance was as quick as it is > on that other OS! there is a lot of buggy chips produced today. normally the should go to thrash, but - what a problem - they put onto motherboards so user have no choice. then they include windoze drivers that simply disable non-working features and they are happy, not even telling anyone about this. unless you are buying motherboard for servers, DO NOT expect lan to work ;) it's my common practice. nvidia ethernet was the worst one (it never worked), but realtek gigabit ethernet on other motherboard needed the same as yours (-txcsum, -rxcsum) or it randomly drop packets, probably because it calculates checksums wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:16:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835891065693 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C2C8FC2B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9UCG1cD012612; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:16:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9UCG0LL012609; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:16:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:16:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?big5?B?SmVmZiBDaGVuIC0gUFRUILOvwHO1Tw==?= In-Reply-To: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> Message-ID: <20081030131518.L12581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: iSCSI support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:16:08 -0000 can't be iSCSI client, but iscsi-target is userlevel app, you may run on any FreeBSD (most probably under any unix). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:37:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7251065675 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) Received: from mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7678FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOJGCUnTG/QR/2dsb2JhbADCDYpog1E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,514,1220191200"; d="scan'208";a="150855516" Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([211.27.244.17]) by smtp06.syd.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 30 Oct 2008 23:37:40 +1100 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:38:58 +1100 From: Alasdair Reed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081030113858.GB9580@paxpc1.localhost.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oC1+HKm2/end4ao3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:45 -0000 --oC1+HKm2/end4ao3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I have been trying to update my system remotely using freebsd-update.sh . I receive this error message; Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update1.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. I checked all the suggested solutions, my resolv.conf is pointing to my ISP's nameservers, I even tried pointing to other public name servers, but the same result.Changing "Server Name" to "update1.FreeBSD.org" did nothing either. What causes the failure to retrieve the key? Is there any other way of updating that does not involve downloading the iso files and burning to CD ? Thanks in advance. Regards, Alasdair --oC1+HKm2/end4ao3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (NetBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkJnNIACgkQ2U0fMC9WKh6HgACdHE0YCQXGaVkBXkfUQWc85/HB v7YAnj3WZgzm/f+GWrXzak7Pq2WN9uUH =2W6D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oC1+HKm2/end4ao3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:38:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC671065672 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6B58FC2A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Yyv21a0050vyq2s560doGS; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Z0eF1a0082P6wsM3R0eG10; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:38:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7SRNBM38j5QA:10 a=8hVJmw3GCh4A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=O48Jkx2st6OzPPydjoMA:9 a=n6dSNey-uGRA4mDDMyB0fU-it7EA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5CA2DC9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:38:15 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Graham Bentley Message-ID: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: PYUN Yong-Hyeon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:38:19 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:33:34AM -0000, Graham Bentley wrote: > Hi ALl, > > I have a DFI LanParty Mobo that includes Marvells 88E8052 > and 88E8053 LAN IF. > > Using the module with 7.0 [msk] the network preformance > is terrible, Opera / Links stall, or wont page load at > all although pings to the router are fine? > > I then tried using Marvells own driver the website [myk] > and the results where about the same. > > Just before I was about to give up and put in my trusty > old 3Com 3C509 [xl] I noticed that in the Marvell doco > there where several tunable params so decided to try > out a few. > > I discovered that adding -txcsum and -rxcsum (i.e. > disabling hardware checksuming) to the ifconfig > statement, the performance was as quick as it is > on that other OS! Yong-Hyeon Pyun can probably explain what's going on here. I've CC'd him on this mail; he usually hangs out on -stable though. You need to keep something in mind here: Marvell does not give out documentation for their cards publicly, so Yong-Hyeon has to reverse-engineer and "tinker" with what he already knows. Some hardware feature do not work, others are buggy, others work fine on specific revisions of the chip while later ones break. And if you tell me "Well Linux has support for this chip!", I will throw the following evidence back in your face: Marvell and other companies are giving Linux developers development PCI cards to develop drivers with (sometimes even before the card is out in the market), so Linux has the upper hand here. They are not doing this with the BSDs. Purely as an example: in my Wiki, section "Network devices", see the entry for the 88E8040 NIC. I'm still working with Yong-Hyeon to try to get him access to a laptop that has this chip so he can write the driver. http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues This should give you some idea of the complexities. As I said, Linux has the upper hand, because they're getting support from Marvell. > It seems that hw cs is on by default so I added the > above to my ifoncfig line in /etc/rc.conf and now > all is snappy! > > I was wondering how could this be the case and also > if anyone else had this issue with Marvell chips? I would urge you to go out and purchase an Intel Pro/1000 PT card, which runs for around 30-40 USD. It's good to have a spare NIC on hand anyways -- your 3C509 xl(4) based NIC probably won't cut it, especially if you're complaining about performance. :-) No one uses those cards any more except individuals running on hardware from 1997, which you are obviously not. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:47:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144EE1065677 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B38038FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 87648 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2008 12:47:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=t1Ik1/d48AbEyybdy27va5W08nLoV+8qxb83hEhquBQYhm0A9ZyWAU1lztUcjPI7txW+wBqoiEyGAlGalh+L4lygBzYYChkzu9+4AbG56/Klj9mRk4TFj2d54sB+tHvpQ36T2QcVK8aHz0LoLXRN3ktSEFpz/164KAN+ZlaEWBQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@67.189.233.182 with login) by smtp106.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2008 12:47:21 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: hHWOxEMVM1mduqzMV1Jkdzzw6CQvaw4YBgm5m_R9p1.qypCkWz3PUfwRK_AMY5qn9reus4J4yJ4mTluZcG1viRoJma3S4UOGOO2RdNLyPMmCroHiInsdy5JqClhbfsgxyFwiNX7GgM5n3_yuZKwyL4Ccmy2LTJ47v0krSdrQt6BmUQohvBsFM7pZ_Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:47:18 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081030084718.4dcb3929@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081030131123.S12581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081030131123.S12581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/saSTULAD2x64TRRR7XwZEOa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:47:23 -0000 --Sig_/saSTULAD2x64TRRR7XwZEOa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:15:04 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> I discovered that adding -txcsum and -rxcsum (i.e. >> disabling hardware checksuming) to the ifconfig >> statement, the performance was as quick as it is >> on that other OS! > >there is a lot of buggy chips produced today. > >normally the should go to thrash, but - what a problem - they put onto=20 >motherboards so user have no choice. then they include windoze drivers=20 >that simply disable non-working features and they are happy, not even=20 >telling anyone about this. Not technically correct. If you go into 'Control Panel' and access the correct logs you will see what has transpired when the driver was loaded. Most Window users do not want to be bothered with the details of what happened; they just want it to work (actually, not a bad concept). Think about it; if Microsoft actually displayed by default all error messages they or the OEM would probably be inundated with frivolous requests for support. >unless you are buying motherboard for servers, DO NOT expect lan to >work ;) > >it's my common practice. > >nvidia ethernet was the worst one (it never worked), but realtek >gigabit ethernet on other motherboard needed the same as yours >(-txcsum, -rxcsum) or it randomly drop packets, probably because it >calculates checksums wrong. I had a friend who used nvidia. They never complained about it. I will see if I can find out what model and how they got it to work. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com semper en excretus --Sig_/saSTULAD2x64TRRR7XwZEOa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkJrNcACgkQBvaKIJWWCO1F3ACcCLx+uDkbICO/Hg4N4egWtzg2 nmcAoIks4Ca4C1EZThbjsrxc06qCIh+/ =zZOR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/saSTULAD2x64TRRR7XwZEOa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 12:12:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87BB10656E5 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chd@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru) Received: from contrabass.post.ru (contrabass.post.ru [85.21.78.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660FD8FC23 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chd@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru) Received: from corbina.ru (mail.post.ru [195.14.50.16]) by contrabass.post.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE9760A93; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:39:19 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Uf39PSi9pFi9oFi9 Received: from dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru ([78.107.232.239] verified) by corbina.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPS id 1408966241; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:39:19 +0300 Received: from dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru (localhost.chd.net [127.0.0.1]) by dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9UBdJ8C004250; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:39:19 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from chd@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9UBdDMK004249; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:39:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from chd) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:39:13 +0300 From: Chagin Dmitry To: Vladimir Grebenschikov Message-ID: <20081030113913.GA4233@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> <1225351814.1712.57.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1225351814.1712.57.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:01:25 +0000 Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, gary.jennejohn@freenet.de, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:12:03 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:30:14AM +0300, Vladimir Grebenschikov wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 19:05 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > > I don't have flashblock installed, but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs > > firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > > fine and I have pretty much the same version of flash and firefox installed > > on both systems. > > It is strange, that exactly same site works fine for me with native ff3 > under 8-CURRENT. > Hi, I think that a problem in futexes, therefore native ff3 works, as it uses native locking. -- Have fun! chd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 13:31:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C141065676 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8F88FC29 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1KvXcG-0000WI-BJ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:12 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Graham Bentley" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" References: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 03870d5c780b6d11ce60c6fe19ddd5ef Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:15 -0000 > You need to keep something in mind here: Marvell does not give out > documentation for their cards publicly, so Yong-Hyeon has to > reverse-engineer and "tinker" with what he already knows. Some hardware > feature do not work, others are buggy, others work fine on specific > revisions of the chip while later ones break. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate that people are working in the trenches on this stuff and thats great about FreeBSD. I only switched to the Marvel .ko as it was suggested on previous questions list, so didnt spend much time with the stock 7.0 driver. > And if you tell me "Well Linux has support for this chip!", I will throw > the following evidence back in your face: Marvell and other companies > are giving Linux developers development PCI cards to develop drivers > with (sometimes even before the card is out in the market), so Linux has > the upper hand here. They are not doing this with the BSDs. I guess even specs would be nice - hardware donations would be nicer though :) > I would urge you to go out and purchase an Intel Pro/1000 PT card Funnily enough, in the back of my mind I had the same thought upon seeing the words 'Marvell' amongst the mobo spec. Thats said at least they made an effort on supporting multi OS http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do even if they are a precious with their specs etc With some Vendors its Windos or nothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 13:34:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF341065672 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98088FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18672 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2008 13:34:27 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Oct 2008 13:34:27 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 732195082A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:34:25 -0400 (EDT) To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk References: <20081027184022.14D9D10656C1@hub.freebsd.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:34:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Graham Bentley's message of "Tue\, 28 Oct 2008 09\:36\:15 -0000") Message-ID: <44y706qk9q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seg Fault Action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:34:28 -0000 "Graham Bentley" writes: > I have often wondered what to do if I compile a port and > immediatly after trying to run it I get a seg fault. > > In the past I have just tried to find an alternative port > that did the same job, but it has always felt as though I > wasnt trying hard enough. > > Yesterday after upgrading all my ports tree I decided to > get printing working and cups / HP stuff all works fine > as does the web gui to cups so I decided to try and > make xpp. > > The result is 'Segmentation Fault' - thats it! > > How do I go about finding out what caused it and how to > get the program running? > > Any tips etc appreciated! Segmentation fault means (roughly) accessing a region of memory that hadn't even been mapped into that process. Generally you need some software debugging skills to go after these problems directly. There are some less direct steps you can take that can help. For one, make sure your ports are up-to-date with your installed ports tree before installing more ports. You can run the program under truss(1), which will help you figure out what kind of bad data is being passed to system calls (assuming that's where the failure is, but it's not unusual for that to be the case). You can generate a crash dump of the program, and (you or someone else) can use a debugger to see where it was when it failed -- usually a strong hint. And of course, asking for help in figuring out a specific problem is an option as well. I'd look at xpp, but at the moment my machines with the ports collection installed are powered down... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 13:36:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068F010656A6; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D26A8FC16; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9UDaGYl048207; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:36:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Franck Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:36:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <200810291754.07992.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810300936.05232.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:36:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8541/Wed Oct 29 22:54:28 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: questions@freebsd.org, marcel@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:36:31 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 06:20:15 pm Franck wrote: > 2008/10/29 John Baldwin : > > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 05:39:27 pm Franck wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Thank you for help. I provide you the maximum information about my > > partitions. > >> > >> Before, I watch the kernel configuration. When I fetch the kernel > >> sources, I can see 2 differents configuration files : DEFAULTS and > >> GENERIC. and the line : "options GEOM_PART_GPT" is present > >> only in GENERIC. If I use my knowledge in linux systems, I would say > >> that my actual kernel was compiled with the DEFAULTS conf, which > >> doesn't enable the support of GPT for GEOM. Maybe I'm wrong, my knew > >> kernel is compiling... > > > > The install kernel from the CD is GENERIC. So only if you've built a=20 custom >=20 > I apologize, I didn't watch in the handbook for this >=20 > > kernel would you not have GPT support. It seems that the kernel does= =20 find > > the GPT table, but gets confused by it. Can you get the output of 'fdi= sk > > ad0' and 'gpt show ad0'? > fdisk ad0 : >=20 > ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=3D387621 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D63 (1008 blks/cyl) >=20 > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=3D387621 heads=3D16 sectors/track=3D63 (1008 blks/cyl) >=20 > Media sector size is 512 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 238 (0xee),(EFI GPT) > start 1, size 409639 (200 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > The data for partition 2 is: > sysid 175 (0xaf),(HFS+) > start 409640, size 37486592 (18304 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > The data for partition 3 is: > sysid 131 (0x83),(Linux native) > start 37897335, size 401625 (196 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63; > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 > The data for partition 4 is: > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 38298960, size 38908800 (18998 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 107/ head 0/ sector 1; > end: cyl 818/ head 15/ sector 63 Ok, so it's not a PMBR. My understanding is that a GPT requires the MBR to= be=20 a PMBR (only one partition in the 4th slot with a special type of 0xee that= =20 covers the whole disk). What this box is doing is trying to make the MBR=20 match the first 4 partitions in the GPT. I'm not sure if you will be able = to=20 get FreeBSD's GPT stuff to recognize that reliably. Marcel (cc'd) might ha= ve=20 some ideas. If you can get FreeBSD's GPT support to handle this disk it wi= ll=20 mean that you will have to use only GPT device names (so /dev/ad0p4a instea= d=20 of /dev/ad0s4a). You will also need to make sure the GPT partition for=20 =46reeBSD has the right UUID since your partition contains a BSD label. > [Dante@iris-bsd ~]$ sudo gpt show ad0 > gpt show: unable to open device 'ad0': Operation not permitted >=20 >=20 > >Normally with GPT you don't put a BSD label inside > > a GPT partition, so you wouldn't have /dev/ad0p4a, but instead would us= e a > > separate GPT partition for each filesystem/swap/etc. The fstab from my > > laptop (not a macbook) looks like this: > > > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump = =20 Pass# > > /dev/ad0p3 none swap sw 0 = 0 > > /dev/ad0p2 / ufs rw 1 = 1 > > /dev/ad0p5 /tmp ufs rw 2 = 2 > > /dev/ad0p6 /usr ufs rw 2 = 2 > > /dev/ad0p4 /var ufs rw 2 = 2 > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 = 0 > > > > Are you booting using boot camp or parallels or some such? >=20 > Yes, I think It's the problem. Actually I have a Leopard Mac OS X > System. And it seems to automatically switch on the "bootcamp feature" > when I tried to install pcbsd. That's weird because I haven't any > problems to see the gpt table when I boot from a ubuntu cd for > example. If I well remember, I was obliged to install pcbsd in one of > the four first parititions. I'll reboot on the pcbsd cd to see if I > can access to all the partitions. >=20 > I realize that's must be efi/refit/bootcamp which mess up all. And I > don't how to fix that. >=20 > Thank you, >=20 > Franck >=20 > > > >> On Freebsd : > >> > >> [Dante@iris-bsd /usr/home/Dante]$ ls /dev/|grep ^ad > >> ad0 > >> ad0s2 > >> ad0s3 > >> ad0s4 > >> ad0s4a > >> ad0s4b > >> ad0s4c > >> > >> my dmesg : > >> http://pastebin.com/m7b5f130e > >> > >> On Gentoo : > >> > >> dante@iris:~ % LANG=3DC sudo parted /dev/sda > >> GNU Parted 1.8.8 > >> Using /dev/sda > >> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands. > >> (parted) p > >> Model: ATA ST9200420ASG (scsi) > >> Disk /dev/sda: 200GB > >> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > >> Partition Table: gpt > >> > >> Number Start End Size File system Name Fla= gs > >> 1 20.5kB 210MB 210MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot > >> 2 210MB 19.4GB 19.2GB hfs+ MacOSX > >> 3 19.4GB 19.6GB 206MB ext2 > >> 4 19.6GB 39.5GB 19.9GB > >> 6 39.5GB 42.7GB 3142MB linux-swap > >> 5 42.7GB 58.4GB 15.7GB ext3 Gentoo > >> 7 58.4GB 74.1GB 15.7GB ext3 > >> 9 89.9GB 200GB 110GB ext3 > >> > >> The 4 is my ufs partition. UFS is not recognize on my gentoo system. > >> The partition 7 is my home, the one that I want to mount under > >> freebsd. > >> > >> Again, thank you for your help > >> > >> Franck > >> > >> 2008/10/29 John Baldwin : > >> > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:52:19 am Franck Royer wrote: > >> >> John Baldwin a =E9crit : > >> >> > On Wednesday 29 October 2008 07:42:18 am Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Franck Royer writes: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Can I oblige pcbsd to look the gpt table instead of the msdos=20 one ? > > How > >> >> >>> can I access to my fifth partition ? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> John Baldwin (jhb) has been working on GPT support, but it's sti= ll > >> >> >> reported to be a work in progress. It works as far as recognizing > >> >> >> disks over 16TB. It also gets picked up by the geom framework. = =20 I'm > >> >> >> not sure about booting, although there are tantalizing hints in = the > >> >> >> manual pages. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > GPT booting works just fine on 6.x and later. Using the gpt(8)=20 utility > >> > you > >> >> > basically do: > >> >> > > >> >> > # gpt create foo0 > >> >> > # gpt boot foo0 > >> >> > > >> >> > The second command creates a special boot partition in /dev/foo0p= 1. > > You > >> > can > >> >> > then add partitions: > >> >> > > >> >> > # gpt add -t ufs foo0 > >> >> > # newfs /dev/foo0p2 > >> >> > > >> >> > gpart(8) in HEAD works similarly. The one thing lacking is that > >> >> > sysinstall/libdisk doesn't handle GPT, so there isn't a nice way = to=20 do > > it > >> >> > during installation. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Ok thank you. But actually, it's not what I'm looking for. > >> >> > >> >> I use freebsd on a macbook. On this macbook, I already have a gpt, > >> >> refit, mac os x and some linux partitions. The problem is freebsd,= =20 which > >> >> doesn't recognize partitions after the fourth one (but my gentoo li= nux > >> >> see them). > >> >> > >> >> Then, I suppose freebsd use the mbr partition table (synchronized f= rom > >> >> the gpt one using refit) to populate the /dev, but partitions after= =20 the > >> >> fourth, which are those I want to use, are only indexed in the gpt. > >> >> > >> >> Finally, I want to force freebsd to use the gpt on my hard drive to > >> >> allow it to see others partitions. > >> >> > >> >> I don't want to destroy my actual gpt, maybe one day, but no right= =20 now. > >> >> > >> >> Tell me if my english is too bad to be understood. > >> >> > >> >> I just want to precise that I use pcvbsd 7.0, so the kernel > >> >> configuration might be different than the freebsd generic one. > >> > > >> > What device entries do you see in /dev? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > John Baldwin > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Franck Royer > >> > >> Student of Manchester University > >> Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure > >> d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) > >> > >> e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > John Baldwin > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Franck Royer >=20 > Student of Manchester University > Etudiant Ing=E9nieur de l'ENSIIE (Ecole Nationale Sup=E9rieure > d'Informatique pour l'Industrie et l'Entreprise) >=20 > e-mail/jabber: royer.franck@gmail.com >=20 =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 13:41:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4171065687 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net (pih-relay05.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEB28FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay05.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1KvXlv-0007rE-Qc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:41:12 +0000 Message-ID: <8B3B280688DC46E086A46A259FCCC079@main> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20081027184022.14D9D10656C1@hub.freebsd.org> <44y706qk9q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:41:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 42d90aa55e83adc36d6dae5c3a1eb7b4 Subject: Re: Seg Fault Action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:41:14 -0000 > For one, > make sure your ports are up-to-date with your installed ports tree > before installing more ports. Yep, done that :) > You can run the program under truss(1), > which will help you figure out what kind of bad data is being passed > to system calls (assuming that's where the failure is, but it's not > unusual for that to be the case). OK will check out truss .... > You can generate a crash dump of > the program, and (you or someone else) can use a debugger to see where > it was when it failed -- usually a strong hint. Is that what a core dump is? Thanks for replies :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:14:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E30106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5688FC1D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9335EAFCF5B; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:14:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:14:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810301514.13932.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eduardo Meyer Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:14:16 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 23:02:43 Eduardo Meyer wrote: > ps -ax -o pid -o user -o emul -o lstart -o lockname -o stat -o command First of all you will want -ww, since the command will otherwise be truncated. Secondly, you can comma seperate the -o arguments for brevity, so: ps -awwx -o pid,user,emul,lstart,lockname,stat,command will be your command. You forgot to mention what language your CGI will be in, so I'll just give you the simplest algorithm: - read the first line - record position of the first character after a space character, by simply walking the line char by char - Using those positional numbers it is now trivial to extract the information from the rest of the lines. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:15:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AE41065687 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55008FC32 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13019 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2008 14:15:05 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Oct 2008 14:15:05 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 157665082C; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:15:04 -0400 (EDT) To: "Graham Bentley" References: <20081027184022.14D9D10656C1@hub.freebsd.org> <44y706qk9q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <8B3B280688DC46E086A46A259FCCC079@main> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:15:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8B3B280688DC46E086A46A259FCCC079@main> (Graham Bentley's message of "Thu\, 30 Oct 2008 13\:41\:09 -0000") Message-ID: <44tzauqie0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seg Fault Action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:15:06 -0000 "Graham Bentley" writes: >> You can generate a crash dump of >> the program, and (you or someone else) can use a debugger to see where >> it was when it failed -- usually a strong hint. > > Is that what a core dump is? I actually meant core dump. "Crash dump" slipped into my brain from a somewhat different concept, on a different OS, that I am dealing with at work. Sorry. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:33:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F151065672 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 585A88FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 18042 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2008 14:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.159.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 30 Oct 2008 14:33:29 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F5941704D; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:33:27 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:33:27 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Alasdair Reed Message-ID: <20081030143327.GA6181@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081030113858.GB9580@paxpc1.localhost.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030113858.GB9580@paxpc1.localhost.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:33:33 -0000 On Thu 2008-10-30 22:38:58 UTC+1100, Alasdair Reed (alasdair@iprimus.com.au) wrote: > I have been trying to update my system remotely using freebsd-update.sh . On 6.3 you should be using /usr/sbin/freebsd-update. Can you ping update1.freebsd.org? $ ping -c 5 update1.FreeBSD.org PING update1.FreeBSD.org (72.21.59.252): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=233.185 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=233.034 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=233.655 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=234.310 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=233.445 ms --- update1.FreeBSD.org ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 233.034/233.526/234.310/0.446 ms You might also like to try the --debug switch: $ sudo /usr/sbin/freebsd-update --debug fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... latest.ssl 100% of 512 B 582 kBps done. Fetching metadata index... 344cfb64472cacb781688b5de744795f140233e84105c4100% of 225 B 234 kBps done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 6.3-RELEASE-p5. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:38:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CD01065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31A18FC1F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8406AFCF5B; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:38:25 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:38:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Brendan Hart Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:38:27 -0000 On Thursday 30 October 2008 01:42:32 Brendan Hart wrote: > Hi, > > I have inherited some servers running various releases of FreeBSD and I am > having some trouble with the /usr partition on one of these boxen. > > The problem is that there appears to be far more space used on the USR > partition than there are actual files on the partition. The utility "df -h" > reports 25GB used (i.e. nearly the whole partition), but "du -x /usr" > reports only 7.6GB of files. > > I have reviewed the FAQ, particularly item 9.24 "The du and df commands > show different amounts of disk space available. What is going on?". > However, the suggested cause of the discrepancy (large files already > unlinked but still held open by active processes), does not appear to be > true in this case as problem is present even after rebooting into single > user mode. > > #: uname -a > FreeBSD ibisweb4spare.strategicecommerce.com.au 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD > 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 7 04:42:56 UTC 2006 > root@opus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 > > #: df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 163M 293M 36% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp > /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.2G 96% /usr > /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 429M 1.3G 24% /var Is this output untruncated? Is df really df or an alias to 'df -t nonfs'? > #: du -x -h /usr > 2.0K /usr/.snap > 24M /usr/bin > .... > > .... > 584M /usr/ports > 140K /usr/lost+found > 7.6G /usr Is it possible that nfs directory got written to /usr at some point in time? You would only notice this with du if the nfs directory is unmounted. Unmount it and ls -al /usr/mountpoint should only give you an empty dir. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:44:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A0106568B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6848FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9UEf0g8012284; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9UEf0v8012283; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:00 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: d@delphij.net Message-ID: <20081030144100.GA12264@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4908EE91.1080706@delphij.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908EE91.1080706@delphij.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Eduardo Meyer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:44:35 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:15:29PM -0700, Xin LI wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eduardo Meyer wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in > > a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and > > the cgi will send the selected signal. > > > > I need to add one ps information per column in a table (html), > > however, I found ps(1) output to be too hard to parse. There is no > > separator. I believed \t was the separator but its not. > > > > The ps(1) command I need to use is: > > > > ps -ax -o pid -o user -o emul -o lstart -o lockname -o stat -o command > > > > Since many of those args use [:space:] in the output, I can not use > > [:space:] as a separator. > > Sadly, `-o fiend='value'` will only format the HEADER output, not the values. > > > > Ive got no clue what to do, can someone enlight me? Well, first pick a language. This would be easy in PHP or Perl or other similar scripting interpreter languages. If you pick one and then study it a little - write a few simple practice scripts, you will probably quickly see how to do it. ////jerry > > Perhaps use cut(1) with -c or something similar in other scripting > language? It looks like that the output is aligned. > > Cheers, > - -- > Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkI7pEACgkQi+vbBBjt66Bi3wCgmk9chU/FIZjuBpm/57Yl7jBY > D6kAoI6ZmQRdxDm7mzjale84p4uXmlmz > =4FMM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:47:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632921065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.114.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17328FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0EE1C004C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:47:35 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16307-04 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:47:32 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [61.48.220.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C041C0001 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:47:32 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <4909C8E7.60904@realss.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:47:03 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu Organization: Real Softservice User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: Subject: improvement idea of man page of strfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:47:10 -0000 Original text: OTHER USES What can you do with this besides printing sarcastic and obscene mes- sages to the screens of lusers at login or logout? There are some other possibilities. 1 Include strfile.h into a news reading/posting program, to gener- ate random signatures. Tin(1) does something similar, in a much more complex manner. 2 Include it in a game. While strfile doesn't support 'fields' or 'records', there's no reason that the text strings can't be con- sistent: first line, a die roll; second line, a score; third and subsequent lines, a text message. 3 Use it to store your address book. Hell, some of the guys I know would be as well off using it to decide who to call on Fri- day nights (and for some, it wouldn't matter whether there were phone numbers in it or not). 4 Use it in 'lottery' situations. If you're an ISP, write a script to store login names and GECOS from /etc/passwd in str- file format, write another to send 'congratulations, you've won' to the lucky login selected. The prize might be a month's free service, or if you're AOL, a month free on a real service provider. My improvement ideas: 5 Those who study a foreign language may find it useful to have a word-bank that shows sentences you want to understand better by reading them randomly and include in shell start script. Maybe you can start by picking your favorite novel from wikiquotes and convert the quotes into a format acceptable for strfile, and enjoy one quote every time opening a terminal. 6 Tip-of-the-day for message to show when user started your application. 7 A website of environmental protection can show a tip how to do things with least harm to the environment for every visitor, which simply invoke fortune on every page request, e.g. by using SSI. I know these things work well because I implemented all of use 5, 6 and 7. But being an infrequent participate of OSS I don't know how to contribute this information back to the author / maintainer of the manual (not mentioned in the manual itself). I also worry improving something that hasn't been changed for 10 years could be difficult because nobody wish to move them. What should I do or who should I contact to let them decide if they include my idea in their manual as well? In fact I think the 4th lottery idea isn't better than any of 5, 6, 7 because it is not a full use of strfile, which can produce random text repeatedly (in case of 4, random text is only needed as many time as you decide to give price to someone). And is the change going to spread to other systems that uses strfile? e.g. many Linux distributions contain the strfile manual from BSD distributions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:50:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6261065679 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.114.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0458FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4031C004C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:50:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16307-07 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:50:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [61.48.220.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB4B1C0001 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:50:38 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:50:10 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu Organization: Real Softservice User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> In-Reply-To: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: Subject: Re: fail with wireless network configuration with "SIOCS80211: Invalid argument" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:50:13 -0000 Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Hello. I am trying to get an AboveCable (model: ACPC 2000-01) wireless > card connected to my home network with 40-bit Hex WEP Encryption on > FreeBSD 6.1. > > # ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.1.90 ssid ZWW wepmode on wepkey 0xea82552825 > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > Did I made anything wrong or miss something in the kernel? I have the > related lines in kernel: > > driver wi > driver wlan > > It turns out this error message is a direct result of lack of wlan_wep neither loaded as module nor compiled in kernel. However I still could not make the card work (even though it works in Ubuntu Linux) after having wlan_wep compiled in, but at least I eliminated the SIOCS80211: Invalid argument error message, which may be helpful for someone who finds this thread by using this error message as search key to google. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 14:59:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8591065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.114.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F058FC17 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473CC1C004C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:59:42 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16107-20 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:59:41 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [61.48.220.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFAF1C0001 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:59:41 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <4909CBC0.40904@realss.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:59:12 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu Organization: Real Softservice User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4909C8E7.60904@realss.com> In-Reply-To: <4909C8E7.60904@realss.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: Subject: Re: improvement idea of man page of strfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:59:15 -0000 another idea: 3 A Chinese poem in Tang-dynasty style is very short, fitting in 4 lines. Some people find getting familiar with all famous 300 such poem written in Tang-dynasty a good way to use up brain-power of the days. They can display random one of them on login or use a random one as desktop background. In fact, there are already public-published fortune data files collecting them. This one I didn't try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 15:41:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838F1106567C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E38A8FC1D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32593 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2008 15:41:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=DSwgaXy7oPfaJXFMa5Jh8A0pdaHYwKKB2PQn9/I+d7KT91hejgM4zwf9H8PmuMm5E4B6yKLC9vOGAlPzWUh0pWT9lDp4acbfOrIDkxQmFfx6dAe9pJHuD4Dp+SaHeojIXv6+NoKg8E2uCap4fkTy7owtuYHLqbJJC84Bj9ExAmc=; X-YMail-OSG: p5haLXAVM1lW2_RU_DQPSFLoKab6TqF0sMVwTUSY19aXouFWA5PT.HIssek.6lgXAsOmsShJBa0Lzr3.L7yCZXIxBft9xHY_tj5iR.5A4uHmYTWBiIETumHYKOcS8JWSPSfaNCNn3TsuaJqF3HqD0hcwnGOnXiwZB0ZFrbSc7RJBH5zhSzMPbPQdpoCFyQ-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:41:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Zhang Weiwu In-Reply-To: <4909C8E7.60904@realss.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <400091.32582.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: improvement idea of man page of strfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:41:38 -0000 --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > From: Zhang Weiwu > Subject: improvement idea of man page of strfile > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 10:47 AM > Original text: > > OTHER USES > > What can you do with this besides printing sarcastic > and obscene mes- > sages to the screens of lusers at login or logout? > > There are some other possibilities. > > 1 Include strfile.h into a news reading/posting > program, to gener- > ate random signatures. Tin(1) does something > similar, in a much > more complex manner. > > 2 Include it in a game. While strfile > doesn't support 'fields' or > 'records', there's no reason that > the text strings can't be con- > sistent: first line, a die roll; second line, > a score; third and > subsequent lines, a text message. > > 3 Use it to store your address book. Hell, > some of the guys I > know would be as well off using it to decide > who to call on Fri- > day nights (and for some, it wouldn't > matter whether there were > phone numbers in it or not). > > 4 Use it in 'lottery' situations. If > you're an ISP, write a > script to store login names and GECOS from > /etc/passwd in str- > file format, write another to send > 'congratulations, you've won' > to the lucky login selected. The prize might > be a month's free > service, or if you're AOL, a month free > on a real service > provider. Erm, I don't see this text in strfile(8) on RELENG_7 which is reasonably recent. Where did you get your man page from? - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 15:52:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA891065678; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958148FC21; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9UFqMnC013480; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:52:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9UFqLbZ013477; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:52:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:52:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081030165114.T13422@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: PYUN Yong-Hyeon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Graham Bentley Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:52:35 -0000 > Purely as an example: in my Wiki, section "Network devices", see the > entry for the 88E8040 NIC. I'm still working with Yong-Hyeon to try to > get him access to a laptop that has this chip so he can write the > driver. the best solution is to not use that cards. it's producer's choice to loose some clients. > I would urge you to go out and purchase an Intel Pro/1000 PT card, which > runs for around 30-40 USD. It's good to have a spare NIC on hand i exactly did it everywhere i had such problems. they are excellent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 15:53:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A092F1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16618FC22 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9UFraWF013505 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:53:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9UFraco013502 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:53:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:53:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081030084718.4dcb3929@scorpio> Message-ID: <20081030165252.A13422@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081030131123.S12581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081030084718.4dcb3929@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:53:43 -0000 > > I had a friend who used nvidia. They never complained about it. I will > see if I can find out what model and how they got it to work. > mine (on amd64 board, nforce3 if i remember correctly, i sold that computer) simply stopped working every 5-10 minutes until you did ifconfig nve0 down ifconfig nve0 up From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 16:14:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEC91065672; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aragon@phat.za.net) Received: from mail.geek.sh (decoder.geek.sh [196.36.198.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD7D8FC2A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aragon@phat.za.net) Received: by mail.geek.sh (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 642A224D22; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:45:12 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:45:12 +0200 From: Aragon Gouveia To: Eduardo Meyer Message-ID: <20081030154512.GB80375@phat.za.net> Mail-Followup-To: Eduardo Meyer , stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 i386 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:14:20 -0000 | By Eduardo Meyer | [ 2008-10-30 00:04 +0200 ] > Hello, > > I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in > a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and > the cgi will send the selected signal. > > I need to add one ps information per column in a table (html), > however, I found ps(1) output to be too hard to parse. There is no > separator. I believed \t was the separator but its not. Another option might be to mount /proc and use that instead. See procfs(5). Regards, Aragon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 16:46:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2421065670; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from crivens.kernel32.de (crivens.asm68k.org [81.169.171.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEAB8FC12; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mh@kernel32.de) Received: from www.terrorteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crivens.kernel32.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562BDB02E0; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:28:46 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:28:46 +0100 From: Marian Hettwer To: Aragon Gouveia In-Reply-To: <20081030154512.GB80375@phat.za.net> References: <20081030154512.GB80375@phat.za.net> Message-ID: <7b873e39ac6eb91f7d2d3a1088207498@localhost> X-Sender: mh@kernel32.de User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-rc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Eduardo Meyer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:46:16 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:45:12 +0200, Aragon Gouveia wrote: > | By Eduardo Meyer > | [ 2008-10-30 00:04 +0200 ] >> Hello, >> >> I need to write a cgi script which will print the output from ps(1) in >> a table (html), so the average-operator can click on a KILL link and >> the cgi will send the selected signal. >> >> I need to add one ps information per column in a table (html), >> however, I found ps(1) output to be too hard to parse. There is no >> separator. I believed \t was the separator but its not. > > Another option might be to mount /proc and use that instead. See > procfs(5). > I wouldn't do that. IIRC procfs(5) is deprecated in FreeBSD. But I could be wrong... regards, Marian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 17:05:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A01106567B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7470C8FC20 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (windows [192.168.1.110]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBEE9EB92B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:34:55 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <4909E93F.1070704@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:35:03 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081030154512.GB80375@phat.za.net> <7b873e39ac6eb91f7d2d3a1088207498@localhost> In-Reply-To: <7b873e39ac6eb91f7d2d3a1088207498@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Script-friendly (parseble) ps(1) output? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: en0f@bokey.mine.nu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:05:06 -0000 Marian Hettwer wrote: [ .. ] > I wouldn't do that. IIRC procfs(5) is deprecated in FreeBSD. > But I could be wrong... Just wanted to point out since discussion of procfs came up - I think this was FreeBSD6.2 IIRC, I had to mount /proc manually for a Java application to work because the code was implemented in Linux using JDK1.5 and a day came when our app had to run on FreeBSD =:-P). I still remember we had a heck of time trying to find a solution! This could probably help some poor little bugger searching for solution in the future. -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 17:16:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C3E106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from nov.smartt.com (nov.smartt.com [69.31.173.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443888FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@smartt.com) Received: from [69.31.174.220] ([69.31.174.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by nov.smartt.com (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m9UHGAPD000810; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:16:14 -0700 Message-ID: <4909EBDE.8030309@smartt.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:16:14 -0700 From: Chris St Denis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?Big5?B?SmVmZiBDaGVuIC0gUFRUILOvwHO1Tw==?= References: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> In-Reply-To: <76A33D32B76055499991F78E33E2C1615EB67CE21E@exchange2007.promise.com.tw> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on nov.smartt.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: iSCSI support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:16:19 -0000 Jeff Chen - PTT ³¯ÀsµO wrote: > Hi, > My company is a storage RAID system company. There is one customer ask iSCSI solution with my production of my company with FreeBSD 6.1. But I found some information in the Internet, the iSCSI full support on FreeBSD is 7.0. Is it mean FreeBSD 6.1 can¡¦t support iSCSI? > > BR, > Jeff > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There are some patches around to run it on 6.2 (maybe all of 6.x) but the performance isn't very good. I used this on 6.2 and it did work: ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-2.0.92.tar.gz This looks like a more recent version (tho no guarantee it will work on 6.x): ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/users/danny/freebsd/iscsi-2.1.tar.gz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 17:41:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216EE1065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5F78FC29 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so268290eyi.7 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.56.7 with SMTP id e7mr12002162eba.165.1225388487354; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm3085501gvf.7.2008.10.30.10.41.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4909F1C6.60207@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:41:26 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4908A71C.9050104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: no reverse dns X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:41:30 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Robin Becker wrote: >> We have just moved offices and our freebsd machine has started >> complaining in the following terms >> >> Oct 29 17:14:39 int kernel: arplookup ww.xx.yy.zz failed: host is not >> on local network >> >> We have an external router connected as a dhcp server at 192.168.0.2 >> which apparently has external address ww.xx.yy.zz. I am using a fixed >> ip address ie >> >> 192.168.0.6 >> >> I have this in my rc.conf >> >> defaultrouter="192.168.0.2" >> hostname="int.myoffice.com" >> ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" >> >> and have dns mapping int.myoffice.com --> ww.xx.yy.zz, > > If you tell the machine that it is int.myoffice.com and you set up DNS > which claims that hostname has an external IP, it will be sad because it > doesn't know how to reach that IP. You can use DNS split-horizon / > views to return the internal IP when the machine asks, or simply keep > your external and internal names separate. Ie, set up DNS like: > > int.myoffice.com A 192.168.0.6 > ext.myoffice.com A ww.xx.yy.zz > > Regards, On the machine I have set the local names to point to 192.168.0.6 in the hosts file. I have not set up any dns except externally. I suppose that packets are arriving and being routed via NAT into the internal server which claim to be addressed to the router's external address. Can I add some simple route that fixes this? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 17:49:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3490A1065673; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout013.mac.com (asmtpout013.mac.com [17.148.16.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3308FC1F; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [192.168.1.95] (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by asmtp013.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9K00L6A9CI6P50@asmtp013.mac.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <33E2BB19-64F9-42E2-89A6-034051390053@mac.com> From: Marcel Moolenaar To: John Baldwin In-reply-to: <200810300936.05232.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:48:17 -0700 References: <49059437.4000700@free.fr> <200810291754.07992.jhb@freebsd.org> <200810300936.05232.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: Franck , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT Support on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:49:32 -0000 On Oct 30, 2008, at 6:36 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > Ok, so it's not a PMBR. My understanding is that a GPT requires the > MBR to be > a PMBR (only one partition in the 4th slot with a special type of > 0xee that > covers the whole disk). What this box is doing is trying to make > the MBR > match the first 4 partitions in the GPT. I'm not sure if you will > be able to > get FreeBSD's GPT stuff to recognize that reliably. Marcel (cc'd) > might have > some ideas. In FreeBSD 6, the kernel checks explicitly for a PMBR when it checks for a GPT. Besides being part of the specification, it also avoids conflicts. In the GEOM framework, there's no a priori support for having one GEOM control another. When there's a valid MBR as well as a valid GPT, it's undeterministic which one will be used, unless they both cooperate. They don't. This is where GPart helps out. In FreeBSD 7 and up, GPart supports multiple partitioning schemes, including MBR and GPT. The kernel will not enforce a PMBR in front of a GPT, because upon detecting both a MBR and a GPT, the GPT will be used. However, this only applies when the kernel is configured with GEOM_PART_MBR and not with GEOM_MBR. At this time GEOM_MBR is still the default. So, to make it work for you, you need at least FreeBSD 7.1 (to be released shortly) or use next month's snapshot and build a custom kernel without GEOM_MBR and with GEOM_PART_MBR. In FreeBSD 8 and up GPart is the default and you won't have to make a custom kernel in that case. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 18:18:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21F51065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C1608FC25 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 61428 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Oct 2008 18:18:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=cu8tp1e5+eDhSr1ShMC7Dc1nZwJDBf+8HveFZlRc0lehbebveQ7RvL6X3xt5XUW4m2dEn8xBc3nvPAOediUoIGpo9eQKXWff9ErCey8m6pOFM51+1zx3jYyGw4toF7ig4oloqp9x/AbsmYkg9QCqHi0pYDvixCO9qcNBnVgAIN4=; X-YMail-OSG: gzsYuGsVM1mKlxll7g_LYcqMvJ0BHNlskCK7T2UkQVsGy4LXW6vRgSP9RuLq94.jBk8_GbDybLuMr6HWpToxVciLtUcU7mUKAG4gmiX7j2ysX0LXLd.SBEAnafrg12qnEwniizV.11n0BJ4vNO1ylgJg1lakgtA6IibGVKYBvfpJI88- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:18:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081030032547.GA93923@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:18:45 -0000 --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > From: Jeremy Chadwick > Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? > To: "Terry Sposato" > Cc: jackbarnett@gmail.com, "Polytropon" , "Freebsd questions" > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 11:25 PM > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:36:58PM +1100, Terry Sposato > wrote: > > > It is most likely caused by your ruleset not being > stateful. If packets > > are going out certain sessions and your firewall > isn't then allowing back > > in you would see the issue you are seeing. I am not > sure how this is > > accomplished via ipfw as I use pf but there would be a > tonne of > > documentation out there on how to make your rules > stateful. > > Are you sure about that? Read his statement once more: > > >> For example, I load up a client (game) and it > connects out on XYZ > >> port. The server will send data back on ABC. > > I assume based on this, the following is happening: > > - 192.168.x.x:aaaaa sends packet to gameserver:xyz > > - NAT gateway translates packet (where "natgw" is > a public WAN IP) > > 192.168.x.x:aaaaa <--> natgw:bbbbb <--> > gameserver:xyz > > - gameserver sees packet to port xyz, and initiates new > connection > to natgw:abc > > - NAT gateway drops packet destined to WAN IP port abc, > because the > gameserver:abc connection is *new*, and does not relate > to the > previous NAT'd gameserver:xyz connection. > > If this is **truly** how the protocol works (the OP will > need to be > absolutely 100% positive of that fact; I recommend he > reconfirm how it > works), then the only solution is to set up a port forward > on the NAT > gateway for port abc to point to 192.168.x.x. > > This also means that only one computer on the LAN will be > capable of > playing this game. Not much one can do about that, other > than write > the authors of the game and explain that their protocol is > absolutely > disgusting. Does the game support IPv6? This may be a work-around for you, since you can get a relatively large chunk of IPs for free via any one of a number of tunnel brokers. If possible, ask your IP provider if they provide native IPv6 transport first. A few do, in North America and Europe, and a surprising lot do in Asia, especially Japan and South Korea. If you're on a North American consumer ISP, chances are a tunnel broker is your only option for v6 connectivity, however. If the game doesn't support IPv6, however, then you are likely stuck with playing with port forwarding from the public routable address, however. It stinks, so feel free to lobby your ISP, the game's designers, and any other involved parties, about supporting IPv6 connectivity. In essence, a problem like the one Mr. Chadwick is eluding to is one of the primary motivating forces behind the adoption of IPv6 to begin with. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 18:28:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3497106564A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989248FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so298611yxb.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=MV3Az09zySsCvB6ejPeUo8gtcVMdWq79JQ/ZmLI03oY=; b=UBXGntZCJgWF7TgXmi7NHl3Nf2mqn7xKaDpBQhne82ibkQpSJ77ewY/9BCLLZUSceG fysAqTvw9FptHIDdOGwZoULeSH3IMVut+NFsrAm4yRhXnF2VGRi9Ki/gFwFLD+ppUMjZ ghIoSya3XOJayWjbkaOzG7hxWsulNln9VUenA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :x-google-sender-auth; b=N1t7fQJs791ECABHEnd7lI2tSpsqN3UXPyDLw3eFREoX2UtH9tLppqaA6hQNPTR7Cw Md5yXEMMQq4xAgKaa2iqSBR8ZosqHka7Iyj5cOIzbtNXKzSUxQGqNzgHIZAwt1FUh9NR UXomAaotzNNrEEeT6orDtXJZM4NBFDgg5Zm6k= Received: by 10.142.232.20 with SMTP id e20mr4879662wfh.85.1225391336340; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.5 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90810301128j2493c4c1wc9519a6fef834490@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:28:56 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 35e447470cc06bca Subject: kqemu runs 2x faster on i386 than amd64!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:28:58 -0000 I'm not comparing apples-to-apples exactly, but both my disks are in the same system, both are running 7-stable from within the last few months, so it's pretty close. Also, the i386 is a direct replacement of the amd64 to fix this and other problems, so the software & settings set is pretty identical also... kqemu crawls when I boot amd64 (and I notice the processor is always over 50%), and it's reasonalbly usable on i386 (also, the processor is often in the 30% range, instead of 60%). Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 18:29:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF561065675 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008B98FC2C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so394400ele.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=fWNOPA73s71LNGvlmQCFPqVNgpYmzXlZZVs4CvPRVOc=; b=uHFTjD5YQur+rXfcgQxDs8244d6AjVAn0l80xzzT0PRAqcxwy2RtQJGeGFeGATUTa8 KF0bTaayEq0t+FP08zG4E9bpfA7+f6doHQrTXrIaIudF9tyEKfd25ZPBoxfAHuAfPmA8 maN63o/vorbEgK2SMdDQz491TigfIx5zYSqVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=XhYWEtTI0JDNQmuwOF3fp6bn/O1iveRIWLmHpY8Hymw+5sTh272Tqx2cA8sk48AxE1 7b0kj9IngOjAZ++6tHJL3pPiRtTm6wD3V/YA3FoY+X32OnE5p29/Wx86ygUyf5lqhOul yvlFJM/uZoQekpFcXUY15iQpFerbrZvDoUdyo= Received: by 10.142.240.9 with SMTP id n9mr4870205wfh.214.1225391396214; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.5 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90810301129x58a6e5des56c062ecbb262663@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:29:55 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <539c60b90810301128j2493c4c1wc9519a6fef834490@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90810301128j2493c4c1wc9519a6fef834490@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0efd276b056a3d11 Subject: Re: kqemu runs 2x faster on i386 than amd64!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:29:58 -0000 Guess I should've mentioned the target is 32-bit win2k... On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Steve Franks wrote: > I'm not comparing apples-to-apples exactly, but both my disks are in > the same system, both are running 7-stable from within the last few > months, so it's pretty close. Also, the i386 is a direct replacement > of the amd64 to fix this and other problems, so the software & > settings set is pretty identical also... > > kqemu crawls when I boot amd64 (and I notice the processor is always > over 50%), and it's reasonalbly usable on i386 (also, the processor is > often in the 30% range, instead of 60%). > > Steve > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 19:05:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A13106567C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay08.ispgateway.de (smtprelay08.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919B18FC25 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [88.153.0.16] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay08.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kvcbv-0002vn-KR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:51:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:51:05 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081030195105.1b5a154d@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/U+LBtLIchqjsoxOkUn/cQ3."; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Df-Sender: 775067 Subject: Re: tangoGPS && FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:05:30 -0000 --Sig_/U+LBtLIchqjsoxOkUn/cQ3. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthias Apitz wrote: > Is anybody aware of a port of tangoGPS > http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/About to FreeBSD 7.0? It runs it in my > Linux based cellphone Openmoko FreeRunner and it would be nice to have > it as well in my eeePC (just for having better capacity for cached maps > of OpenStreetMap and a bigger display). What kind of USB based GPS > devices could be used in this eeePC with FreeBSD 7.0? Using your FreeRunner seems like an obvious choice to me. I got one as well, but I'm not aware of a tangoGPS port for FreeBSD and haven't looked into how much effort porting it would take either. Fabian --Sig_/U+LBtLIchqjsoxOkUn/cQ3. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkKAhkACgkQBYqIVf93VJ2LYgCfYbZcXGeQNFGYcWT1I1F0xlRg AdsAnjwNvFIslNeFKNMSbTY1RwEndZUA =AQW0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/U+LBtLIchqjsoxOkUn/cQ3.-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 19:46:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6C31065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (mail.oclc.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCAC8FC16 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02592; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:31:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-62-216-220-27.dynamic.mnet-online.de(62.216.220.27) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma002582; Thu, 30 Oct 08 20:31:53 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m9UJKQnS005752; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:20:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:20:26 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Fabian Keil Message-ID: <20081030192026.GA5498@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081030195105.1b5a154d@fabiankeil.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081030195105.1b5a154d@fabiankeil.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tangoGPS && FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:46:48 -0000 El día Thursday, October 30, 2008 a las 07:51:05PM +0100, Fabian Keil escribió: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Is anybody aware of a port of tangoGPS > > http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/About to FreeBSD 7.0? It runs it in my > > Linux based cellphone Openmoko FreeRunner and it would be nice to have > > it as well in my eeePC (just for having better capacity for cached maps > > of OpenStreetMap and a bigger display). What kind of USB based GPS > > devices could be used in this eeePC with FreeBSD 7.0? > > Using your FreeRunner seems like an obvious choice to me. > > I got one as well, but I'm not aware of a tangoGPS port > for FreeBSD and haven't looked into how much effort > porting it would take either. tangoGPS compiled and works just fine in FreeBSD, just the usual way: ./configure make make install it needs a gps daemon which is in the ports, and you need some GPS device RS232 or USB based and the web pages of gpsd have a long list of compatibel devices, for sure not all tested with FreeBSD; will see if I could check some out in the near future; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 20:21:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7411065673 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCC68FC2D for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21025 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2008 20:21:56 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Oct 2008 20:21:56 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3BF0F5082A; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:21:55 -0400 (EDT) To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90810301128j2493c4c1wc9519a6fef834490@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90810301129x58a6e5des56c062ecbb262663@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:21:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90810301129x58a6e5des56c062ecbb262663@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Thu\, 30 Oct 2008 11\:29\:55 -0700") Message-ID: <44iqr9rfz0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kqemu runs 2x faster on i386 than amd64!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:21:57 -0000 "Steve Franks" writes: > Guess I should've mentioned the target is 32-bit win2k... If the target isn't the same as the host, I think it's going to have to use (at least partial) emulation instead of direct execution... > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Steve Franks wrote: >> I'm not comparing apples-to-apples exactly, but both my disks are in >> the same system, both are running 7-stable from within the last few >> months, so it's pretty close. Also, the i386 is a direct replacement >> of the amd64 to fix this and other problems, so the software & >> settings set is pretty identical also... >> >> kqemu crawls when I boot amd64 (and I notice the processor is always >> over 50%), and it's reasonalbly usable on i386 (also, the processor is >> often in the 30% range, instead of 60%). >> >> Steve >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 21:11:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DD41065672 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) Received: from mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4028FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmcBAMO/CUnAqBRz/2dsb2JhbAAIh3eKf7oag1E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,518,1220191200"; d="scan'208";a="150884398" Received: from 115.20-168-192.network.zzz.iprimus.net.au (HELO cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au) ([192.168.20.115]) by s96.int.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2008 08:11:50 +1100 Received: from [192.168.20.141] by cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:11:49 +1100 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:11:49 +1100 Message-ID: <4908AAE4000014AD@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20081030143327.GA6181@ozzmosis.com> From: alasdair@iprimus.com.au To: "andrew clarke" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:11:53 -0000 >-- Original Message -- >Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:33:27 +1100 >From: andrew clarke >To: Alasdair Reed >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems > > >On 6.3 you should be using /usr/sbin/freebsd-update. Can you ping >update1.freebsd.org? > >$ ping -c 5 update1.FreeBSD.org >PING update1.FreeBSD.org (72.21.59.252): 56 data bytes >64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=233.185 ms >64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=233.034 ms >64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=233.655 ms >64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=234.310 ms >64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=233.445 ms > >--- update1.FreeBSD.org ping statistics --- >5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss >round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 233.034/233.526/234.310/0.446 ms > >You might also like to try the --debug switch: > >$ sudo /usr/sbin/freebsd-update --debug fetch >Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. >Fetching metadata signature for 6.3-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... >latest.ssl 100% of 512 B 582 kBps >done. >Fetching metadata index... >344cfb64472cacb781688b5de744795f140233e84105c4100% of 225 B 234 kBps >done. >Inspecting system... done. >Preparing to download files... done. > >No updates needed to update system to 6.3-RELEASE-p5. Hi Andrew, Tried the above, results as follows: Ping ok %ping -c 5 update1.FreeBSD.org PING update1.FreeBSD.org (72.21.59.252): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=240.401 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=240.708 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=240.799 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=240.364 ms 64 bytes from 72.21.59.252: icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=240.946 ms No luck with using freebsd-update localhost# /usr/sbin/freebsd-update --debug fetch Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. Fetching public key from update1.FreeBSD.org... fetch: http://update1.FreeBSD.org/6.3-STABLE/i386/pub.ssl: Not Found failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. Any work arounds or other possibilities? Is there any diagnostics to run that might clarify things? Regards, Alasdair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 22:08:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF641065689 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9FA8FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so364913ywe.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:08:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=iOtiK9GDl0EOoHdfDnMKNxD2MgN2vYVstha5oPBRGuQ=; b=iAlhstuDNWYSRPN3fsonN/W5AxG7ZmCj0IJoEAIpsplWQ7bue/7If7At83rdWisc3Y pYbpBtV0XbBq/Msi/SnN+OA6z2Xqt8H4Y3kFpH7eG86DtYF4DQgcVF4vhduGNvCV6VsI 6GhP38H5ql1fEbWnGPmOvcB4ccXS1E/RXtUwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mr1YPZ981o3bUkGrlfqYtomDxHPzQC7QcpEKNBHfr2vWeaqkrcpH0urtw/qNLSLHkL e2tmXtqJk3UI4tH1tqAigFUxR/taPJkA3kRfXrAR0F59b4okgSLIsAEzxPSLV7ivYBOH gVje3/0t/9END8T6gg5vmuh67Z2PeXRDhw5FU= Received: by 10.142.255.14 with SMTP id c14mr4967495wfi.296.1225404531689; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.5 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <539c60b90810301508q32d6d920re36177450954e902@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:08:51 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Lowell Gilbert" In-Reply-To: <44iqr9rfz0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90810301128j2493c4c1wc9519a6fef834490@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90810301129x58a6e5des56c062ecbb262663@mail.gmail.com> <44iqr9rfz0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4c9eb10d4a146b60 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kqemu runs 2x faster on i386 than amd64!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:08:53 -0000 > "Steve Franks" writes: > >> Guess I should've mentioned the target is 32-bit win2k... > > If the target isn't the same as the host, I think it's going to have > to use (at least partial) emulation instead of direct execution... Yes, but isn't that the same for win2k regardless of wether the host is fbsdamd64 or fbsdi386? Or are you talking 64 vs. 32 bit? > >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Steve Franks wrote: >>> I'm not comparing apples-to-apples exactly, but both my disks are in >>> the same system, both are running 7-stable from within the last few >>> months, so it's pretty close. Also, the i386 is a direct replacement >>> of the amd64 to fix this and other problems, so the software & >>> settings set is pretty identical also... >>> >>> kqemu crawls when I boot amd64 (and I notice the processor is always >>> over 50%), and it's reasonalbly usable on i386 (also, the processor is >>> often in the 30% range, instead of 60%). >>> >>> Steve >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 22:45:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C529106567C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5931E8FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so435608nfh.33 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:45:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=U0nTMYmJci/BbmeX4Fp2kgvwx/wjMUgfBP8nm1/S7lU=; b=ZSUQ4A3Oolg8PvWueGCkjz9sdfVRrw3Hek5QX7viAtKts4H9ykRs34TCSPCk+uKhX6 JfnRDNbP5pGdDDnF/67/l6gHDCEBuUJtI2pCkwIYz+dW1G6mtBXmxq1SQQEowgWYXoLw Fg1uAXGii/IF2C0m4B5PH6/xxvPOhtct0a8Pg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=JRM1n1p2JPLu44NSxGbu+gztw5HPkblYqWgo9gb1yRvIHJOQHeF9dPY3HZvkXG67y6 scN6VCChehaHhzLj1F1GAaE2wFpqkLoMhFLl1ma4qCHmiWfUhr5Lf4Dqtk4htblmPXpW MpaMEeKxoqbw4rx0Crv4cOa5stsX6CxpPYZ2U= Received: by 10.86.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr7661272fga.46.1225406363071; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810301539v62dd20csd580ff9a7aa76446@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:39:23 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: alasdair@iprimus.com.au In-Reply-To: <4908AAE4000014AD@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081030143327.GA6181@ozzmosis.com> <4908AAE4000014AD@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: andrew clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:45:18 -0000 does your DNS support SV lookups they are actually putting in some A records for a work around for people with "broken" DNS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:06:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966311065678 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3G=26745d50@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682448FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3G=26745d50@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C29164717 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D67BD05A1; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:50:22 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081030225022.3a6d5b46@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90810301508q32d6d920re36177450954e902@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b90810301128j2493c4c1wc9519a6fef834490@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90810301129x58a6e5des56c062ecbb262663@mail.gmail.com> <44iqr9rfz0.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <539c60b90810301508q32d6d920re36177450954e902@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stevefranks@ieee.org Subject: Re: kqemu runs 2x faster on i386 than amd64!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:06:41 -0000 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:08:51 -0700 "Steve Franks" wrote: > > "Steve Franks" writes: > > > >> Guess I should've mentioned the target is 32-bit win2k... > > > > If the target isn't the same as the host, I think it's going to have > > to use (at least partial) emulation instead of direct execution... > > Yes, but isn't that the same for win2k regardless of wether the host > is fbsdamd64 or fbsdi386? Or are you talking 64 vs. 32 bit? As I understand it, the performance advantage of kqemu over ordinary qemu, comes from running many of the instructions in the emulation directly on the host cpu. An amd64 compatible processor can't run 32-bit code in 64-bit mode and vice-versa, so it's either doing some emulation or switching back and forth between 32/64-bit modes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:07:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF24A10656A4 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.114.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F578FC1F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BDE1C0042; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:07:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21389-13; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:07:19 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [61.48.220.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5375C1C0001; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:07:19 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <490A3E1E.5060205@realss.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:07:10 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu Organization: Real Softservice User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com References: <400091.32582.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <400091.32582.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: improvement idea of man page of strfile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:07:13 -0000 mdh wrote: > > Erm, I don't see this text in strfile(8) on RELENG_7 which is reasonably recent. Where did you get your man page from? > - mdh Hi. Sorry, you are right. This text does not exist in FreeBSD. I have a freeBSD notebook and a Gentoo Linux notebook. I found this text by using the Gentoo Linux notebook in bed, the manual page says it is from the 4th BSD distribution. It was in winter too cold to get my FreeBSD notebook to verify this, and I assumed it must be inhered as it is derived from 4th BSD more directly than Linux (which only borrows). Sorry for posting in the wrong list. I will start a search on the origin for this different manual page. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:12:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86301065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81228FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9UNC80R056395 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:12:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9UNC7Jr056394 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:12:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:12:07 -0500 From: Rich Winkel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:12:09 -0000 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:49:00PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Given that you don't have a BBU, what is the status of write caching > on the individual hard drives? You'll have to use 3dm2 or the CLI > equivalent to investigate this, as the RAID controller tends to hide > that level of information from the OS. However, this setting is the > same thing as controlled by the hw.ata.wc sysctl -- and like that > it has a major effect on disk IO performance. Turning write caching > off is the safe, conservative thing to do for maximum data security. Doesn't hw.ata.wc affect only card-level caching? It seems likely that the softupdates queuing order might be scrambled by card-level caching if it juggles pending writes around to minimize seek times. If so, it would be disasterous for data integrity in the event of a power outage. Disk-level caching might be safe though ... Someone needs to ask 3ware whether the card reorders updates and if so, if there's a setting to keep them in order. Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:14:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34DB1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE288FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9UNEt5q056416 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:14:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9UNEtC8056415 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:14:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:14:55 -0500 From: Rich Winkel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081030231455.GB56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: nspluginwrapper and NIS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:14:56 -0000 Has anyone noticed that "nspluginwrapper -a -i -v" crashes when operating under a userid which is defined under NIS? If you put the user's full master.passwd entry in the local master.passwd it works fine. Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:18:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370E61065672; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45398FC08; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 664BA191A61; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:18:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9UMxNCG014928; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id m9UMxNEh014927; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:23 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200810302259.m9UMxNEh014927@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: masoom.shaikh@gmail.com X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.emulation In-Reply-To: References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 -0000 In article you write: >will this howto work for amd64 ? >[...] Yes. Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:18:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCB11065676; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E463C8FC0C; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 19ABD191A4C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:18:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9UMrY2i014740; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:53:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id m9UMrXdF014739; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:53:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:53:33 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200810302253.m9UMrXdF014739@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: korvus@comcast.net X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.emulation In-Reply-To: <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 -0000 In article <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> you write: >Juergen Lock wrote: >> >> Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: >> (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on >> -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup to >> this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) >> >> 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC >> (the relevant MFC commits are: >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 >> - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs patches >> for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter commit can't >> be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, so flash9 >> probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP you probably >> should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP you also need to >> use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not supported with 4BSD. >> linprocfs patches for 6: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch >> >> 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC >> (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html >> ) >> >> 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . >> >> 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and dependencies >> are installed and up to date(!). (the default emulators/linux_base-fc4 >> should work, if you want to use a later one don't forget to set >> compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT >> to whichever version you use in make.conf. Note however that on 6, only >> the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 really works.) >> >> 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run >> nspluginwrapper -i /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> and restart firefox. >> >> 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of >> flash9, >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e000016.html >> (if you use portaudit you need to `make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' >> to be able to install the port), and fc4 seems to be eol'd too, so you >> probably want to install something like the noscript firefox extension, >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 >> and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on >> sites you trust... >> >> And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even >> on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want >> to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump >> (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying >> specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever >> signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin >> needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about >> it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. >> If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last >> few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... >> >> You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> and >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin >> (if you see `not found' in there you know something is wrong) - although >> that doesn't show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. >> >> >Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in native >Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional thing I had >to do was copy >/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so into >~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. Yeah I forgot to note that you want to run nspluginwrapper -i as the user that will run the native browser, not as root, then the wrapper will go into ~/.mozilla/plugins/... > After that >Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, >but slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so lucky >and still has problems with flash9 locking up FF. Hmm, lockups I haven't seen yet here. HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:18:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65B6106567E; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B038FC14; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 023D4191A98; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:18:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9UNE46T015123; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:14:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id m9UNE40j015122; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:14:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nox) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:14:04 +0100 (CET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <200810302314.m9UNE40j015122@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: dchagin@freebsd.org X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.emulation In-Reply-To: <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> Organization: home Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:18:29 -0000 In article <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> you write: >On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:05:51PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:50:27 -0400 >> Mikhail Teterin wrote: >> >> > Sent by Vladimir Grebenschikov: >> > > I've seen temporary FF lockups with flashblock FF plugin enabled. >> > Same here. Sometimes it works and some times any page containing flash >> > will hang the entire browser. Doing a `killall npviewer.bin' (I use >> > nspluginwrapper) will unfreeze the browser like nothing happened. You'll >> > get the page -- but without the embedded flash, of course. >> > I have only gotten Flash-9 to (mostly) work this morning -- thanks to >> > nox' checklist, and have not yet been able to investigate, why it hangs >> > on occasion... >> > >> >> I don't have flashblock installed, btw, noscript > flashblock :) also it hasn't caused hangs here yet. >> but http://www.mtvmusic.com/ hangs >> firefox 100% of the time. Strangely enough, under Linux it works just > >Hi, >yes, I can confirm. thnx! No hangs here on mtvmusic.com with either linux flash9 + linux_base-fc4 + native ff2 on 6.3/i386/UP or linux flash10 + linux_base-f7 + native ff3 on 7/amd64/SMP. (my flash10 post is here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-emulation/2008-October/005438.html ) HTH, Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:34:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC76106568F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E6C8FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so728545rne.12 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:34:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VXrEhgX1ErrG3du/VBU5MQEDaz6yy5L044DvPkSweV8=; b=wFr5GK4SUY4uP+w2s7vmNTZV1Be1sGSC8opzKzjQ19eASFvDjcF60y2beTXtiabAdE xyJvI7jBLOCEikde+xOLFAlF0FLmc8o4uFWpZd38ldGCeiShk8zQ+2pNu34oxGaiuLoN g2cTJqzSmxg7TE+dA0nTJ61l7XcyUUlReXOjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uOSRyxVTwfiJHf5TfypQxfitR0XLgqxsEP0OrPjzBsq+Vh0L7/lmehRaqDzwbMWg89 ZyxbGYX3vA2cISUWlPdyFGsEhL4TO0xAFPphrHch3RZFRns2vyjnzI08nbuL/wLCfYDH FJh2YHcTH38I/mimigGFyfCmEqsTRFUXSITCE= Received: by 10.65.189.20 with SMTP id r20mr12036672qbp.51.1225409674165; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?98.240.159.248? (c-98-240-159-248.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.159.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm17143qba.1.2008.10.30.16.34.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:34:31 -0500 From: Jack Barnett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackbarnett@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:34:35 -0000 Ok, I had some progress with this last night. Basically what I do is: in natd - redirect_port 1000 to 10000 to the internal windows box. set ipfw to "open" file wall. Obviously this isn't prefect - but gives some idea of what's going on. What I'd like to do, is a) keep the nat redirects since that works pretty well. b) in ipfw, ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has established the connection out first then deny everything else. I tried this, but it didn't work for anything (tried 5-6 differant games): ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from any to any out via x10 setup keep-state ${fwcmd} add allow udp from any to any out via xl0 keep-state ${fwcmd} add allow icmp from any to any out via xl0 keep-state ${fwcmd} add 100 check-state mdh wrote: > --- On Wed, 10/29/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> From: Jeremy Chadwick >> Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? >> To: "Terry Sposato" >> Cc: jackbarnett@gmail.com, "Polytropon" , "Freebsd questions" >> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 11:25 PM >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:36:58PM +1100, Terry Sposato >> wrote: >> >> >>> It is most likely caused by your ruleset not being >>> >> stateful. If packets >> >>> are going out certain sessions and your firewall >>> >> isn't then allowing back >> >>> in you would see the issue you are seeing. I am not >>> >> sure how this is >> >>> accomplished via ipfw as I use pf but there would be a >>> >> tonne of >> >>> documentation out there on how to make your rules >>> >> stateful. >> >> Are you sure about that? Read his statement once more: >> >> >>>> For example, I load up a client (game) and it >>>> >> connects out on XYZ >> >>>> port. The server will send data back on ABC. >>>> >> I assume based on this, the following is happening: >> >> - 192.168.x.x:aaaaa sends packet to gameserver:xyz >> >> - NAT gateway translates packet (where "natgw" is >> a public WAN IP) >> >> 192.168.x.x:aaaaa <--> natgw:bbbbb <--> >> gameserver:xyz >> >> - gameserver sees packet to port xyz, and initiates new >> connection >> to natgw:abc >> >> - NAT gateway drops packet destined to WAN IP port abc, >> because the >> gameserver:abc connection is *new*, and does not relate >> to the >> previous NAT'd gameserver:xyz connection. >> >> If this is **truly** how the protocol works (the OP will >> need to be >> absolutely 100% positive of that fact; I recommend he >> reconfirm how it >> works), then the only solution is to set up a port forward >> on the NAT >> gateway for port abc to point to 192.168.x.x. >> >> This also means that only one computer on the LAN will be >> capable of >> playing this game. Not much one can do about that, other >> than write >> the authors of the game and explain that their protocol is >> absolutely >> disgusting. >> > > Does the game support IPv6? This may be a work-around for you, since you can get a relatively large chunk of IPs for free via any one of a number of tunnel brokers. If possible, ask your IP provider if they provide native IPv6 transport first. A few do, in North America and Europe, and a surprising lot do in Asia, especially Japan and South Korea. If you're on a North American consumer ISP, chances are a tunnel broker is your only option for v6 connectivity, however. > > If the game doesn't support IPv6, however, then you are likely stuck with playing with port forwarding from the public routable address, however. It stinks, so feel free to lobby your ISP, the game's designers, and any other involved parties, about supporting IPv6 connectivity. > > In essence, a problem like the one Mr. Chadwick is eluding to is one of the primary motivating forces behind the adoption of IPv6 to begin with. > > - mdh > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:38:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6CE1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83C8FC20 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Z9EN1a01s0EZKEL53BeVzc; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:38:29 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZBep1a00J2P6wsM3MBep3W; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:38:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=0vArjrWmHePXL0luL8kA:9 a=_4eB2j2vjZoM6r5LZgAA:7 a=gpqaSvgNa-fH10l9N0kXtBjzcWEA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3B81FC9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:49 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Rich Winkel Message-ID: <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:38:52 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:12:07PM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:49:00PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Given that you don't have a BBU, what is the status of write caching > > on the individual hard drives? You'll have to use 3dm2 or the CLI > > equivalent to investigate this, as the RAID controller tends to hide > > that level of information from the OS. However, this setting is the > > same thing as controlled by the hw.ata.wc sysctl -- and like that > > it has a major effect on disk IO performance. Turning write caching > > off is the safe, conservative thing to do for maximum data security. > > Doesn't hw.ata.wc affect only card-level caching? hw.ata.wc causes the ata(4) subsystem to disable write caching on all disks attached to the subsystem. It does not disable card features. There's also the below PR, which extends atacontrol to permit disabling and enabling write caching on a per-disk basis. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=127717 > It seems likely that the softupdates queuing order might be scrambled > by card-level caching if it juggles pending writes around to minimize > seek times. If so, it would be disasterous for data integrity in > the event of a power outage. Disk-level caching might be safe > though ... Someone needs to ask 3ware whether the card reorders > updates and if so, if there's a setting to keep them in order. What gives you the impression that during a power outage your data is going to be intact? The RAID card itself may have a BBU, so during loss of power any cached data *on the card* will be attempt to be flushed to disk... except the PC (including hard disks -- unless they're powered from some other source) is already down/offline by this point. And let's not forget that the OS/kernel is also gone, which means any writes which were sitting in cached memory in the kernel are lost as well. Even disabling write caching on the disks themselves won't help, although it might help with actual I/O performance (using 2 levels of caching: RAID controller, and OS/kernel). In this scenario, write caching on the disks is usually done by the controller itself (through a BIOS option), and not by FreeBSD. For some reason people think that a H/W RAID card with a BBU guarantees data integrity (keyword: guarantees). I'm still trying to understand why people think that. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:39:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B2F1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F58FC2F for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Z5LX1a00E0bG4ec51Bfcmh; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:39:36 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZBfZ1a00j2P6wsM3PBfaoV; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:39:34 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=6j5fiisGW9BtMl6RamgA:9 a=3m5H0iGkaIh8PJ7gys2cR2LyTMYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F237C9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:39:33 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Jack Barnett Message-ID: <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com, Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:39:37 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:34:31PM -0500, Jack Barnett wrote: > > Ok, I had some progress with this last night. Basically what I do is: > > in natd - redirect_port 1000 to 10000 to the internal windows box. > set ipfw to "open" file wall. > > Obviously this isn't prefect - but gives some idea of what's going on. > > What I'd like to do, is a) keep the nat redirects since that works > pretty well. > b) in ipfw, ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has > established the connection out first then deny everything else. This is called "port triggering" in the residential router world. I don't know how to do this on FreeBSD. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 23:59:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544521065674 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C968FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Z97e1a0020SCNGk56ByoS3; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:58:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZBzG1a00S2P6wsM3VBzHlp; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:18 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=QGNukSVxuW7VHL-qA5oA:9 a=xmFoNAi4HBVtBpNajZuVPfzwovgA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9E7CBC9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:59:16 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Rich Winkel Message-ID: <20081030235916.GC16747@icarus.home.lan> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:59:19 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 04:38:49PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > ... > In this scenario, write caching on the disks is usually done by the > controller itself (through a BIOS option), and not by FreeBSD. This should have read: "... usually enabled/disabled by the controller itself". :-) Sorry if that confused anyone. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 00:26:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D499F1065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863928FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so391839yxb.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:26:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8OIizp9cSAU4vOBZ+LBIb6vQ2KRHMgNFIrVgCJ8ikWU=; b=LSqwZ51XHglgfNSVRrMRVDh2oWv4i8rp+gFgLDdkZK6ujmx9Q5xfuWdvEc7iZU11S1 MYcmdOip+DSrWK8+vYb5ko70rikSOf6KjQoemlPTrJV7HHo2iuWK4LRwG2J1D07xEmll mhUsfQPf+pSpfS9sfKWfqpplmq1jwJ3cCK8DQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YdbR5wEvVyDhwrD/S9rQVraydwVM9AV4R3+g/l5OzL9GEUDX+fL9ler/8Q8TygdzVH kuyBnQAFVeOu4QJp39yySkRz9yCpdjMXkpyNzjMsyaEG8f1/79XvH0axhqfaarzj0XNT IV1rXuB4bZug3FVlqlQgGjoZyz+qwYoncmbIg= Received: by 10.231.18.130 with SMTP id w2mr2906574iba.29.1225412787633; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.11.72 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a142e750810301726o6bb52c3eyb857ca1e8ce27c89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:26:27 +0100 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Zhang Weiwu" In-Reply-To: <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fail with wireless network configuration with "SIOCS80211: Invalid argument" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:26:29 -0000 On 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Zhang Weiwu wrote: >> Hello. I am trying to get an AboveCable (model: ACPC 2000-01) wireless >> card connected to my home network with 40-bit Hex WEP Encryption on >> FreeBSD 6.1. >> >> # ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.1.90 ssid ZWW wepmode on wepkey 0xea82552825 >> ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument >> Why is "deftxkey 1" missing ? from ifconfig(8) Note that you must set a default transmit key with deftxkey for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the system to know which key to use in encrypting outbound traf- fic >> Did I made anything wrong or miss something in the kernel? I have the >> related lines in kernel: >> >> driver wi >> driver wlan >> >> > It turns out this error message is a direct result of lack of wlan_wep > neither loaded as module nor compiled in kernel. > > However I still could not make the card work (even though it works in > Ubuntu Linux) after having wlan_wep compiled in, but at least I > eliminated the > > SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > error message, which may be helpful for someone who finds this thread by > using this error message as search key to google. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 00:45:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3627106567B; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [210.11.55.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B39F8FC0C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16145A1BFF; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:58:29 +1030 (CST) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56933-04; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:58:26 +1030 (CST) Received: from SELBrendan (lnk11.adl9.adsl.esc.net.au [123.136.46.11]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22523B941; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:58:26 +1030 (CST) From: "Brendan Hart" To: "'Jeremy Chadwick'" References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> <20081030015517.GA92091@icarus.home.lan> <022a01c93a40$6f16e860$4d44b920$@com.au> <20081030040754.GA94642@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081030040754.GA94642@icarus.home.lan> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:15:15 +1030 Message-ID: <038b01c93af1$f0b84fb0$d228ef10$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack6QrEVExtgEmnyTLueng2QlEYpHAAq4xrA Content-Language: en-au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:45:53 -0000 >> I took a look at using the smart tools as you suggested, but have now >> found that the disk in question is a RAID1 set on a DELL PERC 3/Di >> controller and smartctl does not appear to be the correct tool to >> access the SMART data for the individual disks. After a little >> research, I have found the aaccli tool and used it to get the following information: > Sadly, that controller does not show you SMART attributes. This is one of > the biggest problems with the majority (but not all) of hardware RAID > controllers -- they give you no access to disk-level things like SMART. > FreeBSD has support for such (using CAM's pass(4)), but the driver has > to support/use it, *and* the card firmware has to support it. At present, > Areca, 3Ware, and Promise controllers support such; HighPoint might, but > I haven't confirmed it. Adaptec does not. > What you showed tells me nothing about SMART, other than the remote possibility > its basing some of its decisions on the "general SMART health status", > which means jack squat. I can explain why this is if need be, but it's > not related to the problem you're having. Thanks for this additional information. I hadn't understood that there was far more information behind the simple SMART ok/not ok reported by the PERC controller. > Either way, this is just one of many reasons to avoid hardware RAID controllers if given the choice. I have seen some mentions of using gvinum and/or gmirror to achieve the goals of protection from Single Point Of Failure with a single disk, which I believe is the reason that most people, myself included, have specified Hardware RAID in their servers. Is this what you mean by avoiding Hardware Raid? > I hope these are SCSI disks you're showing here, otherwise I'm not sure how the > controller is able to get the primary defect count of a SATA or SAS disk. So, > assuming the numbers shown are accurate, then yes, I don't think there's any > disk-level problem. Yes, they are SCSI disks. Not particularly relevant to this topic, but interesting: I would have thought that SAS would make the same information available as SCSI does, as it is a serial bus evolution of SCSI. Is this thinking incorrect? > I understand at this point you're running around with your arms in the air, > but you've already confirmed one thing: none of your other systems exhibit > this problem. If this is a production environment, step back a moment and > ask yourself: "just how much time is this worth?" It might be better to just > newfs the filesystem and be done with it, especially if this is a one-time-never-seen-before thing. >> I will wait and see if any other list member has any suggestions for >> me to try, but I am now leaning toward scrubbing the system. Oh well. > When you say scrubbing, are you referring to actually formatting/wiping the system, or are you referring to disk scrubbing? I meant reformatting and reinstalling, as a way to escape the issue without spending too much more time on it. I would of course like to understand the problem so as to know what to avoid in the future, but as you make the point above, time is money and it is rapidly approaching the point where it isn't worth any more effort. Thanks for all your help. Best Regards, Brendan Hart __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3571 (20081030) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 00:57:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B9A1065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87118FC21 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZCKH1a00G0QuhwU52CxkbZ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:57:44 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZCxl1a00U2P6wsM3NCxmjo; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:57:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L6qYQmhLVqQA:10 a=_bM8OcOcC78A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=wWMD6p212U4gAhp0oNgA:9 a=plqX-o22VHR4SpjOQwYA:7 a=ZDfw0-HmN8p2RTwVAVu3A5qjayUA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 73C1EC9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:57:45 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Brendan Hart Message-ID: <20081031005745.GA18319@icarus.home.lan> References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <20081030011949.GA91409@icarus.home.lan> <022601c93a30$b283e7c0$178bb740$@com.au> <20081030015517.GA92091@icarus.home.lan> <022a01c93a40$6f16e860$4d44b920$@com.au> <20081030040754.GA94642@icarus.home.lan> <038b01c93af1$f0b84fb0$d228ef10$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <038b01c93af1$f0b84fb0$d228ef10$@com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:57:48 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:15:15AM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > > What you showed tells me nothing about SMART, other than the remote possibility > > its basing some of its decisions on the "general SMART health status", > > which means jack squat. I can explain why this is if need be, but it's > > not related to the problem you're having. > > Thanks for this additional information. I hadn't understood that there was > far more information behind the simple SMART ok/not ok reported by the PERC > controller. Here's an example of some attributes: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 178 175 021 Pre-fail Always - 6066 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 50 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 200 200 051 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 085 085 000 Old_age Always - 11429 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 48 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 33 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 50 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 117 100 000 Old_age Always - 33 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 051 Old_age Offline - 0 You probably now understand why having access to this information is useful. :-) It's very disappointing that so many RAID controllers don't provide a way to get at this information; the ones which do I am very thankful for! > > Either way, this is just one of many reasons to avoid hardware RAID > controllers if given the choice. > > I have seen some mentions of using gvinum and/or gmirror to achieve the > goals of protection from Single Point Of Failure with a single disk, which I > believe is the reason that most people, myself included, have specified > Hardware RAID in their servers. Is this what you mean by avoiding Hardware > Raid? More or less. Hardware RAID has some advantages (I can dig up a mail of mine long ago outlining what the advantages were), but a lot of the time the controller acts as more of a hindrance than a benefit. I personally feel the negatives outweigh the positives, but each person has different needs and requirements. There are some controllers which work very well and provide great degrees of insights (at a disk level) under FreeBSD, and those are often what I recommend if someone wants to go that route. I make it sound like I'm the authoritative voice for what a person should or should not buy -- I'm not. I predominantly rely on Intel ICHx on-board controllers with SATA disks, because ICHx works quite well under FreeBSD (especially with AHCI). I personally have no experience with gmirror or gvinum, but I do have experience with ZFS. (I'll have a little more experience with gmirror once I have the time to test some reported problems with gmirror and high interrupt counts when a disk is hot-swapped). > > I hope these are SCSI disks you're showing here, otherwise I'm not sure how the > > controller is able to get the primary defect count of a SATA or SAS disk. So, > > assuming the numbers shown are accurate, then yes, I don't think there's any > > disk-level problem. > > Yes, they are SCSI disks. Not particularly relevant to this topic, but > interesting: I would have thought that SAS would make the same information > available as SCSI does, as it is a serial bus evolution of SCSI. Is this > thinking incorrect? I don't have any experience with SAS, so I can't comment on what features are available on SAS. Specifically with regards to SMART: historically, SCSI does not provide the amount of granularity/detail with attributes as ATA/SATA does. I do not consider this a negative against SCSI (in case, I very much like SCSI). SAS might provide these details, but I don't know, as I don't have any SAS disks. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 01:01:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E594F1065679; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55EE8FC16; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so873768rvf.43 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:01:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=WTRPuhN/cI4V59dUNa1VPIXT/rlLwo9VCrLgpdWAZg8=; b=g9VV68+2if0XbqXc7jkkkzTbslPc8rw7uHCQ4nhTPr9a33xslmbGqJSUd3OrLZS1eK GTu9TXvwaylOdHQ6fI6dLiOz47zx7FWwr8DxZo1RIJA7x5UZszybwc+AUx4NZGVlpZl6 KRO2YNmBgK5XTVEvau5QTjnc7UMsin5/Gfi4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=FnOc8noa/78V2C9jJ02ksayzXM7Mor7nxPZYGd8e4pdLiPaFkKOrtQeefiCFV4rloo Gfh4PSX7otJgL2/MUMeKnuA/saZzjsZ2Bjkm1rrjoGPMsgQ6wtXosMBaOdw9bcwCBXRy YdS0stKTraS7CpoymAg/cwaVdApbnOTG0NTrM= Received: by 10.140.207.2 with SMTP id e2mr6238064rvg.187.1225414888271; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr ([211.53.35.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm5991559rvb.2.2008.10.30.18.01.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (localhost.cdnetworks.co.kr [127.0.0.1]) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m9V0xO0q083020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:59:25 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: (from yongari@localhost) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id m9V0xN24083019; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:59:23 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:59:22 +0900 From: PYUN Yong-Hyeon To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081031005921.GA82781@cdnetworks.co.kr> References: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Graham Bentley Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:01:29 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 05:38:15AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:33:34AM -0000, Graham Bentley wrote: > > Hi ALl, > > > > I have a DFI LanParty Mobo that includes Marvells 88E8052 > > and 88E8053 LAN IF. > > > > Using the module with 7.0 [msk] the network preformance > > is terrible, Opera / Links stall, or wont page load at > > all although pings to the router are fine? > > > > I then tried using Marvells own driver the website [myk] > > and the results where about the same. > > > > Just before I was about to give up and put in my trusty > > old 3Com 3C509 [xl] I noticed that in the Marvell doco > > there where several tunable params so decided to try > > out a few. > > > > I discovered that adding -txcsum and -rxcsum (i.e. > > disabling hardware checksuming) to the ifconfig > > statement, the performance was as quick as it is > > on that other OS! I'm not sure you suffers from the same problem but there was a Tx checksum offload related bug in msk(4) driver and it was fixed in HEAD. How about applying the diff in CVS rev 1.33 of if_msk? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c.diff?r1=1.32;r2=1.33;f=h > > Yong-Hyeon Pyun can probably explain what's going on here. I've CC'd > him on this mail; he usually hangs out on -stable though. > > You need to keep something in mind here: Marvell does not give out > documentation for their cards publicly, so Yong-Hyeon has to > reverse-engineer and "tinker" with what he already knows. Some hardware > feature do not work, others are buggy, others work fine on specific > revisions of the chip while later ones break. > > And if you tell me "Well Linux has support for this chip!", I will throw > the following evidence back in your face: Marvell and other companies > are giving Linux developers development PCI cards to develop drivers > with (sometimes even before the card is out in the market), so Linux has > the upper hand here. They are not doing this with the BSDs. > > Purely as an example: in my Wiki, section "Network devices", see the > entry for the 88E8040 NIC. I'm still working with Yong-Hyeon to try to > get him access to a laptop that has this chip so he can write the > driver. > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues > > This should give you some idea of the complexities. As I said, Linux > has the upper hand, because they're getting support from Marvell. > > > It seems that hw cs is on by default so I added the > > above to my ifoncfig line in /etc/rc.conf and now > > all is snappy! > > > > I was wondering how could this be the case and also > > if anyone else had this issue with Marvell chips? > > I would urge you to go out and purchase an Intel Pro/1000 PT card, which > runs for around 30-40 USD. It's good to have a spare NIC on hand > anyways -- your 3C509 xl(4) based NIC probably won't cut it, especially > if you're complaining about performance. :-) No one uses those cards > any more except individuals running on hardware from 1997, which you are > obviously not. > -- Regards, Pyun YongHyeon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 01:20:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0863E106567A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [210.11.55.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B340E8FC1B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B616529EBD; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:33:31 +1030 (CST) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58601-08; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:33:27 +1030 (CST) Received: from SELBrendan (lnk11.adl9.adsl.esc.net.au [123.136.46.11]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1277529904; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:33:26 +1030 (CST) From: "Brendan Hart" To: "'Mel'" References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:50:39 +1030 Message-ID: <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack6msMjhUXlFAlMQuCSpyOInxnBzQAVy+VA Content-Language: en-au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:20:54 -0000 >> #: df -h >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 163M 293M 36% / >> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev >> /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp >> /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.2G 96% /usr >> /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 429M 1.3G 24% /var > Is this output untruncated? Is df really df or an alias to 'df -t nonfs'? Yes, it really is the untruncated output of "df -h". I also tried the "df -t nonfs" and it gives exactly the same output as "df". What are you expecting that is not present in the output ? > Is it possible that nfs directory got written to /usr at some point in time? > You would only notice this with du if the nfs directory is unmounted. > Unmount it and ls -al /usr/mountpoint should only give you an empty dir Bingo!! That is exactly the problem. An NFS mount was hiding a 17G local dir which had an old copy of the entire NFS mounted dir. I guess it must have been written incorrectly to this standby server by RSYNC before the NFS mount was put in place. I will add an exclusion to rsync to make sure it does not happen again even if the NFS dir is not mounted. Thank you for your help, you have saved me much time rebuilding this server. Best Regards, Brendan Hart --------------------------------- Brendan Hart, Development Manager Strategic Ecommerce Division Securepay Pty Ltd Phone: 08-8274-4000 Fax: 08-8274-1400 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3571 (20081030) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 01:32:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40C6106564A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CA78FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZCtC1a0010FhH24AADYEhY; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:32:14 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZDYC1a0032P6wsM8UDYCEf; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:32:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L6qYQmhLVqQA:10 a=_bM8OcOcC78A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=9S0bGS8UvzzNphwzs-MA:9 a=MU3CRC6wfv1r2bjfvzkA:7 a=sOXvkjWQaTBf_VF0U3esm6xgKEsA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 22E49C9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:32:12 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Brendan Hart Message-ID: <20081031013212.GA19134@icarus.home.lan> References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: 'Mel' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:32:15 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:50:39AM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > >> #: df -h > >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > >> /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 163M 293M 36% / > >> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > >> /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp > >> /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.2G 96% /usr > >> /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 429M 1.3G 24% /var > > > Is this output untruncated? Is df really df or an alias to 'df -t nonfs'? > > Yes, it really is the untruncated output of "df -h". I also tried the "df -t > nonfs" and it gives exactly the same output as "df". What are you expecting > that is not present in the output ? > > > Is it possible that nfs directory got written to /usr at some point in > time? > > You would only notice this with du if the nfs directory is unmounted. > > Unmount it and ls -al /usr/mountpoint should only give you an empty dir > > Bingo!! That is exactly the problem. An NFS mount was hiding a 17G local dir > which had an old copy of the entire NFS mounted dir. I guess it must have > been written incorrectly to this standby server by RSYNC before the NFS > mount was put in place. I will add an exclusion to rsync to make sure it > does not happen again even if the NFS dir is not mounted. > > Thank you for your help, you have saved me much time rebuilding this server. Can either of you outline what exactly happened here? I'm trying to figure out how an "NFS mount was hiding a 17G local dir", when there's no NFS mounts shown in the above df output. This is purely an ignorant question on my part, but I'm not able to piece together what happened. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 01:42:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C571065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031838FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9V1fx2J057481; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:41:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9V1fxn5057480; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:41:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:41:59 -0500 From: Rich Winkel To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081031014159.GI22915@pencil.math.missouri.edu> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Rich Winkel , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:42:00 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 04:38:49PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:12:07PM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > > Doesn't hw.ata.wc affect only card-level caching? > > hw.ata.wc causes the ata(4) subsystem to disable write caching on all > disks attached to the subsystem. It does not disable card features. I mean, the individual disks are invisible to the OS unless the card's driver (and the card itself) specifically supports it. > There's also the below PR, which extends atacontrol to permit disabling > and enabling write caching on a per-disk basis. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=127717 But not on disks which are behind hardware raid cards, correct? > What gives you the impression that during a power outage your data is > going to be intact? One of the main functions of softupdates is to order disk updates in such a way that the fs organizational integrity is maintained at all times. Of course this doesn't protect against actual sector corruption, but if the disk is between writes at the time it loses power, the fs structure is supposed to still be internally consistent. At least that's my understanding of it. Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 01:34:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8570A1065676; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4DB8FC0C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so694829fgb.35 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:34:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ATTQBSbgraV4iuGZb0BZ83kNiEFRc1x/u22F751U7pc=; b=pgqOwTPPB8hGrWY2p51pEzthdb09BfceQp3BoJk6utzZ2MxDplI6GrWbFrOhFOJks+ z5qafw8Xc2Jd/KpHs5wqctXom9i1uVDeiy3CjdkChlweoQ7KT6KHo5ycZrpFZ4yyD/R3 px88asNUpkISdfvn6rTcQNr1G/Owa0LRXv8Xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=EKPK+GG0J6l/0sh4oXPJHyDX2KDYcEgxiyCT1VxpbLqreF+iiPCA+s281VCb8uiRFK bR6H6R6woHvmVJDW7EktJEiqpsh+v1qMUK42PVioLu9UTrNfM1d+xJY5wYfqFEuVmaOC 6aW+pskYNd6jsq96OX+dQNXRxyaxMTnLzkuqM= Received: by 10.86.61.13 with SMTP id j13mr7827416fga.23.1225416863422; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.78.7 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910810301834sa165d13p4fbb2c43859e3444@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:34:23 -0400 From: "matt donovan" To: "Juergen Lock" In-Reply-To: <200810302314.m9UNE40j015122@saturn.kn-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> <200810302314.m9UNE40j015122@saturn.kn-bremen.de> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:14:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Steve Polyack , dchagin@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:34:25 -0000 Since I had linux_base-fc4 installed npviewer.bin kept hogging all CPU power until I killed it for native firefox3. Well I installed linux_base-fc7 and now flash9 and npviewer.bin works fine in native firefox3. ok I tried this for the ones that have firefox3 native installed. install linux_base-fc7 and npviewer.bin should stop hogging all the cpu along with firefox3 freezing up until npviewer.bin is killed. I do not use extensions in my firefox3 so the flashblock issue before was not an issue for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 02:33:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC0E1065690 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0E08FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZCwA1a0010x6nqcA7EZoQd; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZEZn1a00d2P6wsM8YEZnS6; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=dSHGVs657AJwUGErDKYA:9 a=Fb5AeEhnDt_VnmH7DxwA:7 a=giSZHO3Xte_bTKPnsZLv8Z5-pEYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AAA9C9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:33:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Rich Winkel Message-ID: <20081031023347.GA19474@icarus.home.lan> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> <20081031014159.GI22915@pencil.math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031014159.GI22915@pencil.math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:49 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:41:59PM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 04:38:49PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:12:07PM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > > > Doesn't hw.ata.wc affect only card-level caching? > > > > hw.ata.wc causes the ata(4) subsystem to disable write caching on all > > disks attached to the subsystem. It does not disable card features. > > I mean, the individual disks are invisible to the OS unless the > card's driver (and the card itself) specifically supports it. Correct. With regards to ATA: ata(4) has support for pass-through on some RAID cards, such as Promise. FreeBSD will see the individual disks (e.g. ad4, ad6, etc.) as well as the array (e.g. ar0). With regards to SCSI: pass(4) provides this capability. I don't think in the case of SCSI that the disks will appear in FreeBSD (e.g. da0) though. Instead, pass(4) can be used to query individual disks on an array, e.g. smartctl's -d flag (e.g. -d 3ware, -d marvell, etc.). In both cases (ATA and SCSI), the card itself has to support pass-through, *and* the FreeBSD driver has to have code to allow for such, otherwise no go. > > There's also the below PR, which extends atacontrol to permit disabling > > and enabling write caching on a per-disk basis. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=127717 > > But not on disks which are behind hardware raid cards, correct? Correct. For FreeBSD to be able to disable write caching on disks behind a RAID controller, one of two things is needed: 1) Pass-through support (see above), 2) A native CLI program that interfaces with the card directly (usually written by the vendor). Sadly, #2 appears to be the most common choice when a RAID card is used. I say "sadly" because many vendors do not support FreeBSD, and only offer Linux CLI programs -- requiring an administrator to install Linux emulation, Linux libraries, etc., and *hoping* that it works. If the neither of the above options are available, then your only choice is to go into the RAID card's BIOS and disable write caching in there, assuming the option exists (on many cards it does). > > What gives you the impression that during a power outage your data is > > going to be intact? > > One of the main functions of softupdates is to order disk updates in such > a way that the fs organizational integrity is maintained at all times. And we've recently found that this is simply not the case. The benefits of SU are applicable to very specific environments; desktop PCs are the main ones, offering great performance improvements there. But there's a known problem with the "background fsck" feature of FreeBSD, which is only applicable to filesystems which use SU; sometimes fsck does not correct all errors, causing the filesystem to be marked clean, even though there are actual problems with it. There's a thread from about a month ago discussing why background_fsck="no" is highly recommended when using SU. > Of course this doesn't protect against actual sector corruption, but if > the disk is between writes at the time it loses power, the fs structure > is supposed to still be internally consistent. At least that's my > understanding of it. Yep, that's how I understand it as well. But this is a different topic than what we were discussing 2-3 replies ago, talking about how a RAID controller with cache + BBU is sufficient enough to guarantee data integrity even when power is lost -- that's incorrect. Back to write caching: Disabling write caching on disks does not guarantee integrity in the case of such failures either -- on the other hand, by disabling an extra layer of caching, you've essentially diminished the risk by only a nominal amount. I personally believe disabling write caching is not a plausible option for users; the performance hit is major (I have done tests) -- write speeds drop to 12% of total capability. Meaning: 70MB/sec with WC enabled, 8.4MB/sec with WC disabled. This is *without* a controller that does caching of any kind. Essentially you can use this to benchmark which is faster: write caching disabled on disks + caching enabled on a controller, or write caching enabled on disks + caching disabled on a controller. It would be interesting to see benchmark comparisons of different controllers. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 03:05:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24090106564A; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57F58FC0A; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m9V35hh4058552; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:05:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9V35hls058551; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:05:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:05:43 -0500 From: Rich Winkel To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081031030543.GA58401@pencil.math.missouri.edu> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> <20081031014159.GI22915@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081031023347.GA19474@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031023347.GA19474@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Rich Winkel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:05:44 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 07:33:47PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > One of the main functions of softupdates is to order disk updates in such > > a way that the fs organizational integrity is maintained at all times. > > And we've recently found that this is simply not the case. The benefits > of SU are applicable to very specific environments; desktop PCs are the > main ones, offering great performance improvements there. Thanks for pointing that out. Is this an acknowledged bug in SU? Is it still a problem in 7.0? > > Of course this doesn't protect against actual sector corruption, but if > > the disk is between writes at the time it loses power, the fs structure > > is supposed to still be internally consistent. At least that's my > > understanding of it. > > Yep, that's how I understand it as well. But this is a different topic > than what we were discussing 2-3 replies ago, talking about how a RAID > controller with cache + BBU is sufficient enough to guarantee data > integrity even when power is lost -- that's incorrect. The reason I brought it up is that it occurred to me that if the hardware raid card reorders disk i/o it would mess with SU's ordering. I wonder whether this was happening in the previous thread you referred to concerning fsck? Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 03:11:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5521065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39D18FC1F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9V3BYhm063673; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:11:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vqCiiSDzEsqX; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:11:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9V3BNqF063669; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:11:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <490A775B.8080004@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:11:23 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> <20081031013212.GA19134@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081031013212.GA19134@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brendan Hart , 'Mel' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:11:37 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:50:39AM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: >>>> #: df -h >>>> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >>>> /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 163M 293M 36% / >>>> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev >>>> /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp >>>> /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.2G 96% /usr >>>> /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 429M 1.3G 24% /var >>> Is this output untruncated? Is df really df or an alias to 'df -t nonfs'? >> Yes, it really is the untruncated output of "df -h". I also tried the "df -t >> nonfs" and it gives exactly the same output as "df". What are you expecting >> that is not present in the output ? I would have to assume he's looking for an NFS mount ;-) >>> Is it possible that nfs directory got written to /usr at some point in >> time? >>> You would only notice this with du if the nfs directory is unmounted. >>> Unmount it and ls -al /usr/mountpoint should only give you an empty dir >> Bingo!! That is exactly the problem. An NFS mount was hiding a 17G local dir >> which had an old copy of the entire NFS mounted dir. I guess it must have >> been written incorrectly to this standby server by RSYNC before the NFS >> mount was put in place. I will add an exclusion to rsync to make sure it >> does not happen again even if the NFS dir is not mounted. >> >> Thank you for your help, you have saved me much time rebuilding this server. > > Can either of you outline what exactly happened here? I'm trying to > figure out how an "NFS mount was hiding a 17G local dir", when there's > no NFS mounts shown in the above df output. This is purely an ignorant > question on my part, but I'm not able to piece together what happened. Well, it would appear that perhaps Mel also guessed right about df being aliased? Just my guess, but, as you mention, no nfs mounts appear. I may be mistaken, but I think it's also possible to get into this sort of situation by mounting a local partition on a non-empty mountpoint---at least, it happened to me recently. Kevin Kinsey -- A triangle which has an angle of 135 degrees is called an obscene triangle. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 03:21:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B291065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18FD8FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZF3R1a00816LCl059FMbTD; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:21:35 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZFMa1a0022P6wsM3SFMavn; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:21:35 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=kHgxGmzl0VzCiZl1i7oA:9 a=aAgvkL4jH7cLBNQNJ4oA:7 a=wStOXKp9on6d0BaMRRvOw-FTqNEA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1288C9419; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:21:33 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Rich Winkel Message-ID: <20081031032133.GA21022@icarus.home.lan> References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> <20081031014159.GI22915@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081031023347.GA19474@icarus.home.lan> <20081031030543.GA58401@pencil.math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031030543.GA58401@pencil.math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:21:36 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05:43PM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 07:33:47PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > One of the main functions of softupdates is to order disk updates in such > > > a way that the fs organizational integrity is maintained at all times. > > > > And we've recently found that this is simply not the case. The benefits > > of SU are applicable to very specific environments; desktop PCs are the > > main ones, offering great performance improvements there. > > Thanks for pointing that out. Is this an acknowledged bug in SU? Is it > still a problem in 7.0? It's a problem in every release. I believe it's more of an engineering oversight; I don't know if it's truly fixable. I guess there are some kinds of filesystem errors which can't safely be fixed automatically. There's no harm in background_fsck="no", but the reason that's not the default is that most people want their system back up and working immediately after a crash (don't want to wait for fsck to finish). It's a personal choice: I would prefer the system stay down longer due to a thorough fsck than have it come back up and still have some underlying corruption that's being silenced. The thread is below. It is quite long and complex, so be sure to have coffee or water on hand. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-September/thread.html#45211 I kind of consider all of this "water under the bridge" now that ZFS is available, and addresses all of these problems quite effectively. > > > Of course this doesn't protect against actual sector corruption, but if > > > the disk is between writes at the time it loses power, the fs structure > > > is supposed to still be internally consistent. At least that's my > > > understanding of it. > > > > Yep, that's how I understand it as well. But this is a different topic > > than what we were discussing 2-3 replies ago, talking about how a RAID > > controller with cache + BBU is sufficient enough to guarantee data > > integrity even when power is lost -- that's incorrect. > > The reason I brought it up is that it occurred to me that if the hardware > raid card reorders disk i/o it would mess with SU's ordering. I wonder > whether this was happening in the previous thread you referred to > concerning fsck? Quite honestly, I don't understand the technical details of RAID card I/O re-ordering vs. softupdates to be able to state "yeah, that's a problem". Someone much more familiar with the intricacies will have to comment on this, and I believe freebsd-fs would be a better group for that discussion, not -questions. But I assume that if it was a problem, we'd be seeing a *very* large number of business customers (making the assumption they're the ones using hardware RAID cards) complaining regularly and loudly. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 03:52:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E081065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.114.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BD78FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28391C004C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:52:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00457-15; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:52:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [61.48.220.248]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBE31C0044; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:52:33 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <490A80F1.2020301@realss.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:52:17 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu Organization: Real Softservice User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> <3a142e750810301726o6bb52c3eyb857ca1e8ce27c89@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750810301726o6bb52c3eyb857ca1e8ce27c89@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fail with wireless network configuration with "SIOCS80211: Invalid argument" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:52:22 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > >> Zhang Weiwu wrote: >> >>> Hello. I am trying to get an AboveCable (model: ACPC 2000-01) wireless >>> card connected to my home network with 40-bit Hex WEP Encryption on >>> FreeBSD 6.1. >>> >>> # ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.1.90 ssid ZWW wepmode on wepkey 0xea82552825 >>> ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument >>> >>> > > Why is "deftxkey 1" missing ? > > from ifconfig(8) > > Note that you must set a default transmit key with deftxkey for > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > the system to know which key to use in encrypting outbound traf- > fic > > That quoted line of text is not appearing in my version (6.4) FreeBSD's manual. I tried to add "deftxkey 1", same result. a.k.a. the interface is configured, but DHCP couldn't obtain IP address, manually assigned IP address couldn't communicate with other hosts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 04:22:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7C81065679; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [210.11.55.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B02E8FC08; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendanh@strategicecommerce.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79469627DFF; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:35:07 +1030 (CST) Received: from ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67308-07; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:35:00 +1030 (CST) Received: from SELBrendan (lnk11.adl9.adsl.esc.net.au [123.136.46.11]) by ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D70E529D87; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:35:00 +1030 (CST) From: "Brendan Hart" To: "'Jeremy Chadwick'" , "'Mel'" , "'Kevin Kinsey'" References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> <20081031013212.GA19134@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081031013212.GA19134@icarus.home.lan> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:52:14 +1030 Message-ID: <03cc01c93b10$40fe6860$c2fb3920$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack69hs7fQBrZgHLTqyWdACC+qlSLAAE7k3Q Content-Language: en-au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ibismail1.strategicecommerce.com.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:22:31 -0000 Now that you mention it, it *is* strange that the NFS mount was not listed by the "df" function. Try again after a fresh reboot: #: df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 176M 280M 39% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 4.8G 21G 19% /usr /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 430M 1.3G 24% /var server2:/storage/blah/foo/data/ 397G 103G 262G 28% /usr/home/development/mount/foobar I guess I must have missed the final line when copying the output when I first posted to the mailing list. And then when I replied Mel, I had already nmounted the NFS dir when attempting the suggested fix, so it did not show when I ran "df" again to double-check, and I did not realize what had happened. I apologise for any confusion caused. Best Regards, Brendan Hart --------------------------------- Brendan Hart, Development Manager Strategic Ecommerce Division Securepay Pty Ltd Phone: 08-8274-4000 Fax: 08-8274-1400 -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Friday, 31 October 2008 12:02 PM To: Brendan Hart Cc: 'Mel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:50:39AM +1030, Brendan Hart wrote: > >> #: df -h > >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > >> /dev/aacd0s1a 496M 163M 293M 36% / > >> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > >> /dev/aacd0s1e 496M 15M 441M 3% /tmp > >> /dev/aacd0s1f 28G 25G 1.2G 96% /usr > >> /dev/aacd0s1d 1.9G 429M 1.3G 24% /var > > > Is this output untruncated? Is df really df or an alias to 'df -t nonfs'? > > Yes, it really is the untruncated output of "df -h". I also tried the > "df -t nonfs" and it gives exactly the same output as "df". What are > you expecting that is not present in the output ? > > > Is it possible that nfs directory got written to /usr at some point > > in > time? > > You would only notice this with du if the nfs directory is unmounted. > > Unmount it and ls -al /usr/mountpoint should only give you an empty > > dir > > Bingo!! That is exactly the problem. An NFS mount was hiding a 17G > local dir which had an old copy of the entire NFS mounted dir. I guess > it must have been written incorrectly to this standby server by RSYNC > before the NFS mount was put in place. I will add an exclusion to > rsync to make sure it does not happen again even if the NFS dir is not mounted. > > Thank you for your help, you have saved me much time rebuilding this server. Can either of you outline what exactly happened here? I'm trying to figure out how an "NFS mount was hiding a 17G local dir", when there's no NFS mounts shown in the above df output. This is purely an ignorant question on my part, but I'm not able to piece together what happened. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3571 (20081030) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3571 (20081030) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 04:42:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F611065673; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851078FC20; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl25-227.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.152.227]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id m9V4gHST029518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:42:28 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9V4gGWt094671; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:42:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9V4gEwb094670; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:42:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20081030093015.2188f1f0.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:30:15 +0100") Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:19:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87wsfp5rck.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20081030070459.11029e7b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20081030061002.GB97010@icarus.home.lan> <20081030093015.2188f1f0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m9V4gHST029518 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.853, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.55, BAYES_00 -2.60, FB_WORD1_END_DOLLAR 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Status line for text mode console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:42:48 -0000 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:30:15 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:10:02 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> Sounds like something screen(1) offers. See sysutils/screen. > > Much too complicated. :-) I'm using screen on a daily basis to manage > multiple SSH sessions (very comfortable tool), but for something that > should run locally (a local terminal session) it doesn't seem to be > the right tool. That's right, but screen(1) is pretty easy to configure this way. You just have to add a `.screenrc' file with: caption always "%{= bf}%5n %t (%H) %l%=%Y-%m-%d %c:%s " This should produce a colored, blue 'hardstatus' line near the bottom of the screen window, that displays something like this: ,----------------------------------------------------------------------- | bash$ | | | 0 shell (kobe) 0.44 0.52 0.58 2008-10-31 6:14:00 `----------------------------------------------------------------------- FWIW, I regularly use screen(1) in console sessions too, because ssh sessions to `other' OS types work much better with a terminal type of `screen'. Some Linux and Solaris systems do funny things when the environment includes `TERM=cons25' :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 06:55:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1321065676; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670788FC19; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9V6tlSY071416; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:55:49 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m9V6tlSY071416 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1225436149; bh=Y3m0zhazlLfhuE Obzp9NBhfpbduxWNJg2zHWAi1Y844=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<490AABEC.9060107@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Fri,=2 031=20Oct=202008=2006:55:40=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Jeremy=20Chadwick=20|CC:=20Rich=20Wink el=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subj ect:=20Re:=20Filesystem,=20RAID=20Question|References:=20<9f3798c00 810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com>=09<4908BE2C.701 0505@infracaninophile.co.uk>=09<20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math. missouri.edu>=20<20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan>|In-Reply-T o:=20<20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan>|X-Enigmail-Version:=2 00.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundar y=3D"------------enig37C731A9554B52D546D66882"; b=lHw/AHhJSgpc+ob0z Whutc1QDF1Q/jtS4QcHps5n4DLOcOJFy07QejPdUxHF3tbc9zRqflepOC2pJr8jdO5X iDhmc1HkPiLS6m1uF/VGnIyBqQI3oislSdY04u2Aoq7dxNxJkGrGAvhthSkr+ZZF3Pn LZvCjYbiwysp3AgcZ2Hg= Message-ID: <490AABEC.9060107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:55:40 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <9f3798c00810291118i1c80cb8cw8d4995eabe6a4f8f@mail.gmail.com> <4908BE2C.7010505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20081030231207.GA56260@pencil.math.missouri.edu> <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081030233849.GA16747@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig37C731A9554B52D546D66882" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:55:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8546/Fri Oct 31 01:39:08 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Rich Winkel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem, RAID Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:55:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig37C731A9554B52D546D66882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > The RAID card itself may have a BBU, so during loss of power any cached= > data *on the card* will be attempt to be flushed to disk... except the > PC (including hard disks -- unless they're powered from some other > source) is already down/offline by this point. And let's not forget > that the OS/kernel is also gone, which means any writes which were > sitting in cached memory in the kernel are lost as well. > For some reason people think that a H/W RAID card with a BBU guarantees= > data integrity (keyword: guarantees). I'm still trying to understand > why people think that. Pending writes in the BBU-backed RAM will be completed when the machine reboots. The assumption is that the machine will be rebooted within a few hours, before the battery runs down. Given that limitation, data in BBU-backed cache can be regarded as committed to permanent (or more accurately: /persistent/) storage. Data in OS-level caches will be lost, yes. But this is the point of softupdates. It reorders the instructions for writing data/metadata to disk so that the data on disk remains consistent -- you may loose some data in transit, but your disk contents will still be consistent. Journalling achieves a similar effect in a different way -- recording a changelog onto non-volatile storage which can later be played out to bring the stored data into the correct state, However, given that any access to rotating magnetic media is going to take about 1000x longer than access to main RAM, there's always going to be uncommitted filesystem changes in RAM that will be lost if the machine suddenly looses power or otherwise fails. Until there is a persistent storage medium with something like the timing characteristics of RAM, that effect is simply unavoidable. The only strategy you can=20 employ is to provide uninterruptible power supplies, and choose hardware = and OS wisely, so that unexpected system failures are minimized. =20 Sometimes you can benefit from having multiple machines and multiple=20 copies of your data, but this is not always possible. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig37C731A9554B52D546D66882 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkKq/MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxEGwCgkgaTxeldyWWa2fmVTBie0b05 NjQAnjLP1u833Oxs/v8tF0Da6Mq7XQkr =gbLB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig37C731A9554B52D546D66882-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 07:15:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C090106567F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13428FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2008 07:15:40 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5516F5C4F; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:14:54 +0000 (GMT) To: Zhang Weiwu References: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> <3a142e750810301726o6bb52c3eyb857ca1e8ce27c89@mail.gmail.com> <490A80F1.2020301@realss.com> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday: Friday of the Thirtieth Week of Ordinary Time, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:14:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <490A80F1.2020301@realss.com> (Zhang Weiwu's message of "Fri\, 31 Oct 2008 11\:52\:17 +0800") Message-ID: <86bpx144nl.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fail with wireless network configuration with "SIOCS80211: Invalid argument" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:15:42 -0000 Zhang Weiwu writes: > Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu wrote: >> >>> Zhang Weiwu wrote: >>> >>>> Hello. I am trying to get an AboveCable (model: ACPC 2000-01) wireless >>>> card connected to my home network with 40-bit Hex WEP Encryption on >>>> FreeBSD 6.1. >>>> >>>> # ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.1.90 ssid ZWW wepmode on wepkey 0xea82552825 >>>> ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument >>>> >>>> >> >> Why is "deftxkey 1" missing ? >> >> from ifconfig(8) >> >> Note that you must set a default transmit key with deftxkey for >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> the system to know which key to use in encrypting outbound traf- >> fic >> >> > That quoted line of text is not appearing in my version (6.4) FreeBSD's > manual. > > I tried to add "deftxkey 1", same result. a.k.a. the interface is > configured, but DHCP couldn't obtain IP address, manually assigned IP > address couldn't communicate with other hosts. What do you have in /etc/rc.conf and in /boot/loader.conf? atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 08:16:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655DB1065678 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B708FC2E for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08E0AFCF5B; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:16:22 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:08:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <021f01c93a28$651752e0$2f45f8a0$@com.au> <200810301538.24819.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <03a101c93af6$e2f654d0$a8e2fe70$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810310908.05306.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Brendan Hart Subject: Re: Large discrepancy in reported disk usage on USR partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:16:24 -0000 On Friday 31 October 2008 02:20:39 Brendan Hart wrote: > > Is it possible that nfs directory got written to /usr at some point in > > time? > > > You would only notice this with du if the nfs directory is unmounted. > > Unmount it and ls -al /usr/mountpoint should only give you an empty dir > > Bingo!! That is exactly the problem. An NFS mount was hiding a 17G local > dir which had an old copy of the entire NFS mounted dir. I guess it must > have been written incorrectly to this standby server by RSYNC before the > NFS mount was put in place. I will add an exclusion to rsync to make sure > it does not happen again even if the NFS dir is not mounted. I used to nfs mount /usr/ports and run a cron job on the local machine. I made a file on the local machine: echo 'This is a mountpoint' > /usr/ports/KEEP_ME_EMPTY The script would: if [ -e /usr/ports/KEEP_ME_EMPTY ]; then do_nfs_mount(); if [ -e /usr/ports/KEEP_ME_EMPTY ]; then give_up_or_wait(); fi fi Of course it's fragile, but it works for not so critical issues. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 08:18:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E27D1065675 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net (fhw-relay07.plus.net [212.159.14.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFCC8FC26 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1KvpD5-000262-0U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:18:23 +0000 Message-ID: <2E2BD59B9AAA4A3B950AC1D6D7549A28@main> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20081031032150.ED0AB106573B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:18:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 12530ba19faf0ce826f76cd12eb4c69b Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 (PYUN Yong-Hyeon) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:18:25 -0000 > I'm not sure you suffers from the same problem but there was a > Tx checksum offload related bug in msk(4) driver and it was fixed > in HEAD. How about applying the diff in CVS rev 1.33 of if_msk? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c.diff?r1=1.32;r2=1.33;f=h Would love to have a crack at this but have never 'applied diffs' before?! I am guessing I look in to the source for the msk module, find line 2601, add the code in the green box, then remake the module and copy over the existing one? If theres a step by step to the correct procedure I'd appreciate pointers. As an aside I went back and added -txcsum -rxcsum whlist using the msk module and that also worked. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 09:29:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECA11065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982C78FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so388860eyi.7 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=k2tGBfLe1pcplwBWm+EbatbNU/h6CLLDRVWL26QrFKI=; b=ac9r//RMhzzvuT/hspbwz3gGBV0iY2aFzOr8WXZGc+iAspmTwKrJRVyef127qdJdFq HOs7tUNykm4nRXnsqICz2tiwTGXpiu3VbyXqrKd7F03QF4L8cnFS8ay3I3tphslUMdBf CQcuPo3IiNAJ6aZ4/+h42zTLRl9tj9KJmqhM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tk9uDW3UKaDQLGmqAd2f4bPcMcywtYH4E+Rkah7evfVFZHXjMwAd1mCZ97VUWuktGM YJLPlQUaqpBPp9ttZW1Rq6sBxW+fVnZ3TmsdrAAt0xjaXtbEeRrocM4okMtvC9Xc/mud 3pbKAhPFPT0VZM7IYYidub0GODqxaMsDkq/bc= Received: by 10.103.238.4 with SMTP id p4mr5379285mur.66.1225445375043; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.247.7 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:29:35 +0100 From: "Redd Vinylene" To: questions@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:29:37 -0000 Hello guys, It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? Alright, much obliged, thanks. -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 09:50:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6E3106567F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D798FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.114]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 6452737 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:49:53 +0100 Message-ID: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:48:16 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:50:12 -0000 Hi list, I'm considering using a bootable USB stick with FreeBSD to perform a backup of my notebooks' 500 GB hard disk to a physically identical (same make, same type, same size) hard disk attached to USB. What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm using dd right now, dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 but maybe there is a utility which does this faster or a larger buffer size? Probably the limit will be the USB 2.0 bus speed anyway? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 09:53:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BD11065674 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D66D8FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so454062ywe.13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:53:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=oDFyXRf1SsNDUV/xH+Jjkf2y46sPuSie8lsm9eY/dKE=; b=UHyooi2AgTvIzd0ZKf+yutbPGtkMLoTFsc90oKYauKekO10gn+UQjyFba3a3wdFEkk U2/QPB/pr/o1BUvYOU+JfXURNiE/etD6Ql79ZOyHFZMpKtI+baFc3nFKP3pSXKu+CZ4J n96YIqf7lbKaGcrg1EgUBW4AMRm1t3J38nFqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=sAF6eEEOYwXE8iW2wOpxTYIt6BNdNRJsf7n5hvveSPK6NU22N5MXJsyVe8Hpczh5Im XWBZfeRaEXPYzmp+oYNUIV1w0DxezGQXMHwt+vJBbCDL8y1Be/5kh9tnNlByzAviFkPY 6+cLoX0Qn9+ZoJKtIoXZSd88/thz4iGaaws/w= Received: by 10.231.17.201 with SMTP id t9mr2907346iba.28.1225446790667; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.11.72 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a142e750810310253qf1177ffscd22a38804221fcf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:53:10 +0100 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Zhang Weiwu" In-Reply-To: <490A80F1.2020301@realss.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> <3a142e750810301726o6bb52c3eyb857ca1e8ce27c89@mail.gmail.com> <490A80F1.2020301@realss.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fail with wireless network configuration with "SIOCS80211: Invalid argument" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:53:12 -0000 On 10/31/08, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 10/30/08, Zhang Weiwu wrote: >> >>> Zhang Weiwu wrote: >>> >>>> Hello. I am trying to get an AboveCable (model: ACPC 2000-01) wireless >>>> card connected to my home network with 40-bit Hex WEP Encryption on >>>> FreeBSD 6.1. >>>> >>>> # ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.1.90 ssid ZWW wepmode on wepkey 0xea82552825 >>>> ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument >>>> >>>> >> >> Why is "deftxkey 1" missing ? >> >> from ifconfig(8) >> >> Note that you must set a default transmit key with deftxkey >> for >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> the system to know which key to use in encrypting outbound >> traf- >> fic >> >> > That quoted line of text is not appearing in my version (6.4) FreeBSD's > manual. > > I tried to add "deftxkey 1", same result. a.k.a. the interface is > configured, but DHCP couldn't obtain IP address, manually assigned IP > address couldn't communicate with other hosts. send output of: # ifconfig -v wi0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 10:03:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50004106568B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8508FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1039437mue.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:03:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=29oGeZu/dAy5QOd0A8XKZczLq3QPjC+nsrGtsYbXWh8=; b=c7M8lpXPaT+F9ibqN5Q77s1RF3zZhdgqlgao+jDBqyLO2aiZ6fPYfjBzcrfBDGvkLX jFtC1/LvmjsGlHIFdsozIUe9FGyyaJsYxji2j14BKwxOZCH7z8CEZlhqGNU+RBt2lqdo 2SIBG5BAn31v04DuX5cx9fk+/IUxvwtBp9bJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wYZXHTRGfoTzDgMkqACdwvKct8VnmTCnNR1WIhHa9752u5hH0c9tC0d0Dpf6v8zrAp /cKcAfRCCk27FGRJSxHe7uYm5MQnh85bZxkXVwHRr1wWKTZuS11mBIT5LFw2ZcVLLJ4M a6/oR0uy6tIY7j8SdbwLIbOmC5hTY+lsV2EvM= Received: by 10.103.175.9 with SMTP id c9mr5412107mup.15.1225447402303; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.247.7 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:03:22 +0100 From: "Redd Vinylene" To: questions@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org In-Reply-To: <200810311051.35164.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810311051.35164.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:03:24 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Mel wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2008 10:29:35 you wrote: > >> It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a >> tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something >> UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? >> Alright, much obliged, thanks. > > http://shop.cafepress.com/design/6684711 > > -- > Mel Hahaha -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 10:06:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4D21065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B5D8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so496461hsz.11 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:06:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Unf0tKhJ7nBB33fbBKUAJqC1cIjh9HecwGnNvmCKChM=; b=XmYoApkqtplQISga/gC5FUz/YmAyCS38xY22V7vH4aw9K77/Jw3UTb217TYFg01uE/ MaSx8jP2ikMQ7TJiDXdDmKJLRXEJv/DW4h1MuND4AoChdLGBm+zIB12ViSHUH40KsGkK zPCWVzolq7im5XlTEo0BpQp6Pxpbq9Lk8fCsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=idgSQ8c18djGKsdxipTUqxeqPeeF/XVxfISGrM2eUwh471An/iuTorDBxn5yc+/AP/ ciMVzupglbm01h3ZQUUumBq0TF21Fee4KHmtZNs5ojBOrtSdmOzT+9yojCEgz8uJqSFv iaxHE2vll/BLT6jsnhnMC78N7eXC+6lcac0fw= Received: by 10.150.121.3 with SMTP id t3mr11142011ybc.220.1225446312009; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.84.10 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:45:11 +0200 From: pepe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: upgrading 5.4 -> 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:06:52 -0000 We are running 5.4 on www/ircshell server now and we need to upgrade it. Is it ok (or is it possible) to upgrade straight to 7.0 or are there some known problems in this upgrade? Would it be better to do 5.4 -> 6 -> 7 instead? -- pepe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 10:09:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A82106564A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872D88FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9VA8m7f053190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:08:48 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id m9VA9HhY015882; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:09:17 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:09:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200810311009.m9VA9HhY015882@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: plaine@gmail.com In-reply-to: (message from pepe on Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:45:11 +0200) References: X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading 5.4 -> 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:09:22 -0000 > We are running 5.4 on www/ircshell server now and we need to upgrade it. Is > it ok (or is it possible) to upgrade straight to 7.0 or are there some known > problems in this upgrade? Would it be better to do 5.4 -> 6 -> 7 instead? Like every upgrade, it will certainly work better if you go through version 6 first. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 10:10:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB43D1065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3D28FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1064961rvf.43 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:10:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ofob71zqKyPsJr8Q9l02mlFIpSHUh2dIUO/kzeOv3Aw=; b=HmVWCWy1A4+OdEcJm2MlwEjMeUVcUOE4FQtiEpavTaJ97BPIba1nBuqBcE7ljiNRbM Oj9O/4k50ZoVTRLNIXOpEL8MwyQSBXsgb8UZGeMxaY3l8XvfJ/yr2tmdIlKYt3JsdKZS CmjfJg7GiO4aEv8bdCKZlOhtDNjfPtp2WA5vo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=necCsB2h83DnS88zGmbh7+l4CS0VJBuDc10pw9zbneGFYHJ62jTf3cd7HWDapelY6h tsKEbYUN/l9S44s5LCvPEkkrmcFSvjwl+xox9PZTlInRVI/a4IoC1eSSi0nLZzZIplEj tSJ0rDoN901dRtYb/MzbK6QWtfqgdkRrPKDGw= Received: by 10.142.229.5 with SMTP id b5mr5276674wfh.132.1225445901273; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.180.20 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1bd550a00810310238q7b4ab72avd831c94577bccfe5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:38:21 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?=" To: "Redd Vinylene" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: misc@openbsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:10:57 -0000 On 10/31/08, Redd Vinylene wrote: > Hello guys, > > It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a > tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something > UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? > Alright, much obliged, thanks. thinkgeek.com has some fun designs. PS: I'm not related to thinkgeek in any commercial sense :) > > -- > http://www.home.no/reddvinylene > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 10:15:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691511065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E1E8FC28 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (windows [192.168.1.110]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E026DEB92B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:44:48 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <490ADAA1.6000108@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:44:57 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: en0f@bokey.mine.nu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:15:00 -0000 Redd Vinylene wrote: > Hello guys, > > It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a > tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something > UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? > Alright, much obliged, thanks. > * hold it right there buddy. + * that scruffy beard... those suspenders... that smug expression... + * you're one of those condescending unix computer users! + here's a nickel, kid. get yourself a better computer. :P) -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 11:02:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCD81065676 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A08FC24 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZNXN1a00B0bG4ec51P20ip; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:02:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZP1z1a00b2P6wsM3PP20dh; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:02:00 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=bjNuHRgfvkh4-F6peDAA:9 a=YVkm4TDcygXPd8l1xhrnmE5bNkwA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB181C9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:01:59 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:02:02 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm considering using a bootable USB stick with FreeBSD to perform a > backup of my notebooks' > 500 GB hard disk to a physically identical (same make, same type, same > size) hard disk attached to USB. > > What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm > using dd right now, > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 > > but maybe there is a utility which does this faster or a larger buffer > size? Probably the limit will be > the USB 2.0 bus speed anyway? In general, what you're doing is correct for a block copy. There is nothing (that I know of) which is faster; you're copying 500GB of data (including the unused portion -- you *did* ask for a block copy), and this takes a long time. Be patient. On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 12:50:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A50C1065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan.kennedy@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95E08FC1A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan.kennedy@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1072663fkk.11 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:50:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=aHydpE3voHXGGtS2bD6z6tVarfRqmKA4IHfxuE41EEY=; b=aJXdXRwlOim85doFXtmTwHji3SVP2IbMhYQKcELDPjacdpybRkX5o9oDiH7up3Dvlg PmMDzR+5y+KMHElXARFNVRNSRuqoiTZPGPZErHf2XG1ypJhW3JcpePkW5wuNsaYaEQWG LhbTkebdp9awcAS/Wufel+Ei6DAlodcLyH/DE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IdlFMBJx5QqmiwMa21HeniQsB/aPMqTCRpLBc7CnaDG40n7Audl720wItkXEXhWDqL nw9f0klhaZ8zClhQzRyCcWU/EV9i59+uKyaHI9VBNO9EoZ+4dH85yzsNMbKtph8u9l0M QVpWnZvC/m/mwFJspwOxyXWoldJhETFN2EAfM= Received: by 10.181.225.6 with SMTP id c6mr3036374bkr.207.1225455593309; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.19.1 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:19:53 +0000 From: "Brendan Kennedy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: disable use of opencrypto for ssh login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:50:09 -0000 Hi All, I am using FreeBSD 6.2. What are the steps I would need to perform in order to for opencrypto not to be used during SSH session setup (even if there is a working crypto module available underneath it)? Regards, Brendan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 13:08:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EA01065678; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19DA8FC0A; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9VD81Ug001595; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:08:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9VD80Nl001592; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:08:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:07:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081031140730.Y1584@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:08:07 -0000 > In general, what you're doing is correct for a block copy. There is > nothing (that I know of) which is faster; you're copying 500GB of data > (including the unused portion -- you *did* ask for a block copy), > and this takes a long time. Be patient. > > On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good > reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default > (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. should be big but less than drive's buffer, and be multiply of sector size. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 13:15:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995461065687 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6898FC21 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kvtqt-0007MA-0S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:47 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:47 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:47 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:16:38 +0100 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6A75BBE435C7D5E489DF7E41" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) In-Reply-To: <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:15:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6A75BBE435C7D5E489DF7E41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm =20 >> using dd right now, >> >> dd if=3D/dev/ad0 of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D10000000 > On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good > reason. I'd pick something more like bs=3D64k or bs=3D128k. The defau= lt > (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a multiple of sector size. 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([124.43.192.0]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm888051tib.1.2008.10.31.06.29.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:29:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Pramod Dematagoda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:59:04 +0530 Message-Id: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:59:28 -0000 Hey there, I am a user of FreeBSD-7.0 and I must say that I am really impressed with it, I must admit though that I used to be(still am) a Linux user, so the switch wasn't that easy but I managed to do it with help from the FreeBSD handbook(My thanks go to the authors of that excellent guide). But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the problem. Thanks in advance for any help on this problem. Regards, Pramod Dematagoda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 14:15:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8521065675 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAEC8FC1A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZP5L1a0070Fqzac56SFKBR; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:19 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZSFp1a00E2P6wsM3USFpDe; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0Sda9HvoHXAA:10 a=eHvR7BKzp5cA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=kc0sgsMC3L8xBHLK6S4A:9 a=LZOEqEqPp3MtfmtVK8yyxWW9XPcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF4B3C9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:09:46 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Pramod Dematagoda Message-ID: <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:52 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the > root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login > screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This started > happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD ports > which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself previously, so > I am wondering if something I did may have caused the problem. Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: # mount -a # mount -o rw -u / # passwd root And change the password. "reboot" and you should be good to go. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 14:37:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCF91065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6340B8FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.114]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 6452869; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:36:02 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:37:46 -0000 Ivan Voras schrieb: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> > > >>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm >>> using dd right now, >>> >>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 >>> > > >> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good >> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default >> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. >> > > Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a > multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right thing: > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m > > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 14:40:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1231065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557F08FC1E for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.114]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 6452878; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:09 +0100 Message-ID: <490B1875.3050408@kukulies.org> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:38:45 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:40:10 -0000 Christoph Kukulies schrieb: > Ivan Voras schrieb: >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>> >> >> >>>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? >>>> I'm using dd right now, >>>> >>>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 >>>> >> >> >>> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good >>> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default >>> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. >>> >> >> Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a >> multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right >> thing: >> >> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m >> >> > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't > harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of > typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. > > An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed > alongside the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? Ack, I mean "bytes" :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 14:47:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818021065680; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3CF8FC18; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9VEkmXb002592; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:46:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m9VEkmvr002589; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:46:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:46:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christoph Kukulies In-Reply-To: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> Message-ID: <20081031154640.P2588@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:47:03 -0000 > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't harm. > But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of typing ^C now. > The command is running for 6 hours now. > > An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside the > running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? > systat :vmstat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 14:53:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B7110657DB for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B794F8FC20 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so703297tid.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8sbwS8bbNtkwgnS5JWk53Rlh5YVtfyO2G60HSAZ/SN4=; b=OW7OZ26MJZRb6DPxWiqRAorO616FwWs8kyIQyemxkyz1riwby0SWzhcUg3f5dB/e8n wKCamsyYn1FI728Vb0M/lfN4JhI2Sl2c4SsaHh+cIhy5W5OCQG5SHHX0XJtK71dCSHVT 8gwXVDkG/ddWkcZEgImmMRoH+tF2R+lpsgY70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=da2GARxH5OnvfI80pfF9E8pLos9bFOV8s6t5aPP8c+W3I34wHjWO/wEHtHNRpvym4r T0bnfvlPiw1/LqNB2BLiutocDX3OTO2kMeZ7iseZ3k/N85EVm6HNEZj5bwpysgPolGBr 5tjZlixttBxJfv8KYg3gMQkKJhWKRyuUpdilQ= Received: by 10.110.7.5 with SMTP id 5mr8516286tig.7.1225464810482; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([124.43.192.0]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm1088248tib.1.2008.10.31.07.53.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Pramod Dematagoda To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:23:23 +0530 Message-Id: <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:53:34 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the > > root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login > > screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This started > > happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD ports > > which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself previously, so > > I am wondering if something I did may have caused the problem. > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > # mount -a > # mount -o rw -u / > # passwd root > > And change the password. "reboot" and you should be good to go. > Hey Jeremy, Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. Regards, Pramod Dematagoda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:00:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB49F1065688; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FEB8FC20; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EAAAFCF5B; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:00:21 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:00:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> In-Reply-To: <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , Pramod Dematagoda Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:00:22 -0000 On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the > > > root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the > > > login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This > > > started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself > > > previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the > > > problem. > > > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > > > # mount -a > > # mount -o rw -u / > > # passwd root > > > > And change the password. "reboot" and you should be good to go. > > Hey Jeremy, > > Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did > not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still > cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or /var/log/auth.log. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:01:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29C01065686 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DC628FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 96300 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2008 15:01:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=TzphKTrCujfgQTh1ysHeOZU28CJRWDCBC+35AJPE3ZBNBvhUYcG2UtMGZlRXnZfBwF+OxbCkLZ3KrmYJYVMGS7PBqx4Kmo2ZF6KkVgwOPrF65PWp4kRwacteD8Le1uBhbVg0hXluNaKbfIppAxL32lHdgkYm/+AdsGO/i6SEIPg=; X-YMail-OSG: CyyjoUYVM1m2lQgbaZasq5ScZhEg3zE91n0fkQ.TIdj7cV6mipPAtjVmRXBmZzBXkTfzUnvkwsrO4_CCfw8ixi6xAC844C9nqAJdFpUoftJMoZjOT618jb98y7_fKeJBUrfv00G.otSO2x9RT5N_EY3SvinYBVwnbobRVO.t4MqFegA- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:01:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Jeremy Chadwick , Pramod Dematagoda In-Reply-To: <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <601368.96171.qm@web56808.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:01:51 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > From: Pramod Dematagoda > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 > To: "Jeremy Chadwick" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 10:53 AM > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod > Dematagoda wrote: > > > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no > longer seem to login to the > > > root account where whenever I supply the proper > credentials to the login > > > screen, I always get thrown back to the login > screen. This started > > > happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through > the FreeBSD ports > > > which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had > built myself previously, so > > > I am wondering if something I did may have caused > the problem. > > > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader > menu, hit "4" to > > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > > > # mount -a > > # mount -o rw -u / > > # passwd root > > > > And change the password. "reboot" and you > should be good to go. > > > Hey Jeremy, > > Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your > solution did > not work, I changed the root password to something else, > however I still > cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. > > Regards, > Pramod Dematagoda Try going through those steps again (single user mode, the mount commands) and then looking at your system logs in /var/log. The logs should have failed authentication messages that explain what's going wrong. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:02:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799891065695 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305378FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:59612 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KvvVh-0000Qb-44 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:02:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 61859 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 16:01:59 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2008 16:01:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 31182 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Oct 2008 16:01:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:58 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081031150158.GA31106@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KvvVh-0000Qb-44. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KvvVh-0000Qb-44 5c4ee0385143ec3067f3d8f929b0d6da Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:02:02 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 03:36:02PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Ivan Voras schrieb: > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >> > > > > > >>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm > >>> using dd right now, > >>> > >>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 > >>> > > > > > >> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good > >> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default > >> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. > >> > > > > Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a > > multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right thing: > > > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m > > > > > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't > harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of > typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. > > An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside > the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? Just type a ^T on the terminal dd is running on. This will send a SIGINFO to dd which will cause it to print out that information to the terminal. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:03:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBC8106567B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974868FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KvvWq-0003Ch-S8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:12 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:12 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:12 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:04:02 +0100 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig98DA7B437EF669D35C35BC13" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) In-Reply-To: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:03:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig98DA7B437EF669D35C35BC13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christoph Kukulies wrote: > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't > harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of > typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. No, with a size that isn't a multiple of sector sizes your transferred data will be corrupted. Actually, it's surprising that your number even works - the system should have complained when you requested that size for bs. > An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside= > the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? hit Ctrl-T while running dd. --------------enig98DA7B437EF669D35C35BC13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJCx5ildnAQVacBcgRAkGKAKCqH4iNKjpDKAtUs3O6LmbUZHNW7wCgiT7b 22IqlVLzVZQ6WYKEaw08LCI= =ckXg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig98DA7B437EF669D35C35BC13-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:09:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4019C1065679 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EA48FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so706167tid.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:09:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oDek9zdnhxI2iaYC+yazJ04LUvIHeP41pIwp4XDQIjU=; b=etm1Wt/Pr1uXXxRAXwLMWRDWBLUVMVl+AQ/zK0UNe5A3AzFymZAXZnhq+jhVWDKKYn 7uCwG+HcrQLIaYK2J/zdQcNiO4/7IN7bmtIlWYeWySs6WwqlN8VT4KOU1a61nybTJ7gY 9gWTJM6jwtjnkDdFehcSsk/g+n+dQyaqMj6SM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=OMsGzp2ouiOqZlImbW9lGvMEXILgMZLjqDfBr5eaOXZtI95R6oICMEGoZzUAN8AP2v 92L3ju8ZnA6BFNJ6Az5/J7R3l6s6Ni2Wq74jTLsogQ8AdFfvrKaeooXdbcynfC6ouDSa YxX2MIiKYhk1F2S9S8yHlqjvGG7NlG4gpjZUU= Received: by 10.110.5.18 with SMTP id 18mr7467397tie.10.1225465792614; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([124.43.192.0]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a14sm535233tia.12.2008.10.31.08.09.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Pramod Dematagoda To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:39:46 +0530 Message-Id: <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:09:54 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the > > > > root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the > > > > login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This > > > > started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > > ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself > > > > previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the > > > > problem. > > > > > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > > > > > # mount -a > > > # mount -o rw -u / > > > # passwd root > > > > > > And change the password. "reboot" and you should be good to go. > > > > Hey Jeremy, > > > > Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did > > not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still > > cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. > > There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or /var/log/auth.log. > I checked /var/log/messages, and I found something interesting, it seems that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right after a root login, there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. But now what do I do to fix the problem, change the shell? Regards, Pramod Dematagoda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:14:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71451065677 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E3B8FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTE51a00L0lTkoCA1TEZwd; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:14:33 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTD71a01T2P6wsM8QTD9UV; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:13:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=uwroqaoiwx5mHuhWLi4A:9 a=W01r5jwMvjMamU00V2heDoCMK2kA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7336CC9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:13:07 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081031151307.GA34850@icarus.home.lan> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:14:34 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 03:36:02PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Ivan Voras schrieb: >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>> >> >> >>>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm >>>> using dd right now, >>>> >>>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 >>>> >> >> >>> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good >>> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default >>> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. >>> >> >> Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a >> multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right thing: >> >> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m >> >> > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't > harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of > typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. Six hours? Hmm... That seems too long, but of course the FreeBSD USB stack is involved, and a USB device in general. I would have assumed that copy should have finished after 2-3 hours tops. > An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside > the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? iostat or gstat (I'm willing to bet you prefer the latter) will get you what you want, more or less. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:15:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF311065698 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89028FC2E for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTEV1a00A17UAYkA1TFmKe; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:15:46 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTFR1a00Q2P6wsM8ZTFRQW; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:15:26 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0Sda9HvoHXAA:10 a=eHvR7BKzp5cA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=Yejf4B1CK78_EGiM0bMA:9 a=DlQwcJGGFHCsSokHjG4A:7 a=vxzxeNBWSN8os2WAszaGcIG4WswA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 335E0C9421; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:15:25 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Pramod Dematagoda Message-ID: <20081031151525.GB34850@icarus.home.lan> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Mel , FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:15:47 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:39:46PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: > > On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > > > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the > > > > > root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the > > > > > login screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. This > > > > > started happening after I installed D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > > > ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 which I had built myself > > > > > previously, so I am wondering if something I did may have caused the > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > > > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > > > > > > > # mount -a > > > > # mount -o rw -u / > > > > # passwd root > > > > > > > > And change the password. "reboot" and you should be good to go. > > > > > > Hey Jeremy, > > > > > > Thanks for looking into the problem, but unfortunately your solution did > > > not work, I changed the root password to something else, however I still > > > cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD normally. > > > > There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or /var/log/auth.log. > > > I checked /var/log/messages, and I found something interesting, it seems > that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right after a root login, > there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. But now what do I do > to fix the problem, change the shell? csh should not sig11. Are you sure this machine does not have hardware problems? Please download and run memtest86++ from a CD. You shouldn't have to run this very long (15-20 minutes at tops in this case); errors will be quite obvious. You can try changing the shell to /bin/sh, but this is not recommended (meaning, if/when you get the system working again, please change it back to /bin/csh -- I can't stress this enough). You can change the shell by following the above steps I gave you, but using "chsh" instead of "passwd root". -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:17:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CA41065670; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5186C8FC17; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m9VFAWB0010973; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:32 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810311610.31851.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Christoph Kukulies , Ivan Voras Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:17:55 -0000 On Friday 31 October 2008, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Ivan Voras schrieb: > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm > >>> using dd right now, > >>> > >>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 > >> > >> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good > >> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default > >> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. > > > > Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a > > multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right > > thing: > > > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m > > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't > harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of > typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. > > An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside > the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? Press ^T. It will show you progress and I/O speed. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:19:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3CA1065675 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 964618FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 33850 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2008 15:19:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=F49xNQD1SO01ezRnvz5mSkEekCJXF7I6Mon5d5elCSzDvKwtefK89taQcGKKMxqiXQCwoPV9jNdRAOnqka8fk9FdoX5Ybm5dxPua7lwqGZ5xFcyw3hmpwadiEFWojZL9XucXzQtFi+XOR9GrncIrjka62boK2YOekjI3SA/FoJg=; X-YMail-OSG: cIisa24VM1nN5MoqAA0FPVHaleVQ_Dtz_JZ135aghfyWNLjsFADIEjbGDtGIXqgqIMJ_TLHljGcTsxKoWCV7kPmjFHLBhPvm5iXvmQlNX1cPAgZijmJ.iGsZUbKMTHpRPmxSu_l9kahKDJtBn1uqiMFn5w-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:19:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:19:43 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Mel , Pramod Dematagoda In-Reply-To: <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <916203.33608.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:19:45 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > From: Pramod Dematagoda > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 > To: "Mel" > Cc: "FreeBSD ML" > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:09 AM > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: > > On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy > Chadwick wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, > Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > > > But now I've faced a big problem, I > can no longer seem to login to the > > > > > root account where whenever I supply > the proper credentials to the > > > > > login screen, I always get thrown back > to the login screen. This > > > > > started happening after I installed > D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > > > ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 > which I had built myself > > > > > previously, so I am wondering if > something I did may have caused the > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD > beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > > > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > > > > > > > # mount -a > > > > # mount -o rw -u / > > > > # passwd root > > > > > > > > And change the password. "reboot" > and you should be good to go. > > > > > > Hey Jeremy, > > > > > > Thanks for looking into the problem, but > unfortunately your solution did > > > not work, I changed the root password to > something else, however I still > > > cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD > normally. > > > > There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or > /var/log/auth.log. > > > I checked /var/log/messages, and I found something > interesting, it seems > that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right after a > root login, > there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. But now > what do I do > to fix the problem, change the shell? Yeowzers. Change it to /bin/sh for now. Once you're back up, it'd be interesting to debug this. Would you like to? - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:26:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186F1065689 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07EE8FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTGQ1a0040cQ2SLA1TStRH; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:26:53 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTSn1a0062P6wsM8WTSns3; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:26:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0Sda9HvoHXAA:10 a=eHvR7BKzp5cA:10 a=BY3-Sj9qAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=AYZUAGI5mG_4EifQhaUA:9 a=XO-H7W6eDE0SrYorEhg-dpO2MEAA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 48C13C9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:26:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Pramod Dematagoda Message-ID: <20081031152647.GA35240@icarus.home.lan> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031151525.GB34850@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031151525.GB34850@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Mel , FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:26:53 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:15:25AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Are you sure this machine does not have hardware problems? Please > download and run memtest86++ from a CD. You shouldn't have to run this > very long (15-20 minutes at tops in this case); errors will be quite > obvious. Oops, this should have been memtest86+. :-) http://www.memtest.org/ -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:30:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1DC1065679 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s37.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s37.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FDF8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W53 ([65.55.131.88]) by bay0-omc1-s37.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:30:40 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [204.249.77.1] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:30:40 -0400 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2008 15:30:40.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1A1F670:01C93B6D] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CUPS wont print inside GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:30:41 -0000 I have the latest GNOME installed from ports and have the odd issue of CUPS= not wanting to work with it right. If i access the CUPS web configuration page=2C i can print test pages just = fine and not a single issue=2C but if i try and print a test page from insi= de GNOME=2C including trying with the gnome-cups-manager port=2C it will st= op and present the following error "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/pstoraster failed"this error will carry ove= r to the web interface and those jobs are pretty much hosed=2C yet i can cr= eate a test print from web interface even when this error is present. I do notice that test pages from web interface come from user "anonymous" w= hereas test pages from gnome-cups-manager are from the respected user that = ran it. even root is unable to print from inside gnome. -Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:40:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF43E1065678 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51FA8FC2B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9VFb906018127; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9VFb9GD018126; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:37:09 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081031153709.GC17878@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:40:24 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm considering using a bootable USB stick with FreeBSD to perform a > backup of my notebooks' > 500 GB hard disk to a physically identical (same make, same type, same > size) hard disk attached to USB. > > What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm > using dd right now, > > dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 > > but maybe there is a utility which does this faster or a larger buffer > size? Probably the limit will be > the USB 2.0 bus speed anyway? Are you sure you want to do a sector-by-sector copy? That won't get you much that is useful in terms of a backup. Can't you use dump/restore instead? Dump each file system on /dev/ad0 to a file on /dev/da0. Create a file system on /dev/da0 using newfs first. You may or may not want to create a FreeBSD slice and partition there before doing the newfs. Make a mount point and mount it. mkdir /bkmnt mount /dev/da0 /bkmnt Or if you created slice and partition in /dev/da0 mount /dev/da0s1a /bkmnt Then do the dumps dump 0af /bkmnt/rootbackup / dump 0af /bkmnt/usrbackup /usr dump 0af /bkmnt/homehackup /home etc for whatever file systems you want to back up. You will be much better off than with a sector by sector copy. ////jerry > > -- > Christoph > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:44:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A648C1065677; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110648FC14; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.114]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 6452946; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:44:44 +0100 Message-ID: <490B27CC.4040507@kukulies.org> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:44:12 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> <20081031151307.GA34850@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081031151307.GA34850@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:44:59 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick schrieb: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 03:36:02PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >> Ivan Voras schrieb: >> >>> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm >>>>> using dd right now, >>>>> >>>>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good >>>> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default >>>> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. >>>> >>>> >>> Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a >>> multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right thing: >>> >>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m >>> >>> >>> >> OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't >> harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of >> typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. >> > > Six hours? Hmm... That seems too long, but of course the FreeBSD USB > stack is involved, and a USB device in general. I would have assumed > that copy should have finished after 2-3 hours tops. > > >> An idea how I can check the current amount of transfered byed alongside >> the running dd command? Or watch the current i/o rate? >> > > iostat or gstat (I'm willing to bet you prefer the latter) will get you > what you want, more or less. > > The job just finished and I have a figure of the Ubuntu performance, with the unfortunate blocksize parameter though, so I think it isn't much worth. Anyway here is the figure of the above dd command copying 500GB to a WDC disk in an Icy box. 50010+1 Datensätze ein 50010+1 Datensätze aus 500107862016 Bytes (500GB) kopiert, 25787,9 s, 19,4 MB/s Will do that using FreeBSD next time. Thanks a lot so far. -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:49:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFCE106564A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3038FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.114]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 6452945; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:49:04 +0100 Message-ID: <490B28D0.8070206@kukulies.org> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:48:32 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031153709.GC17878@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081031153709.GC17878@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:49:19 -0000 Jerry McAllister schrieb: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > >> Hi list, >> >> I'm considering using a bootable USB stick with FreeBSD to perform a >> backup of my notebooks' >> 500 GB hard disk to a physically identical (same make, same type, same >> size) hard disk attached to USB. >> >> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm >> using dd right now, >> >> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 >> >> but maybe there is a utility which does this faster or a larger buffer >> size? Probably the limit will be >> the USB 2.0 bus speed anyway? >> > > Are you sure you want to do a sector-by-sector copy? > That won't get you much that is useful in terms of a backup. > > Can't you use dump/restore instead? > > Dump each file system on /dev/ad0 to a file on /dev/da0. > > Create a file system on /dev/da0 using newfs first. You may or > may not want to create a FreeBSD slice and partition there before > doing the newfs. > Make a mount point and mount it. > > mkdir /bkmnt > mount /dev/da0 /bkmnt Or if you created slice and partition in /dev/da0 > mount /dev/da0s1a /bkmnt > > Then do the dumps > > dump 0af /bkmnt/rootbackup / > dump 0af /bkmnt/usrbackup /usr > dump 0af /bkmnt/homehackup /home > > etc for whatever file systems you want to back up. > > You will be much better off than with a sector by sector copy. > > ////jerry > The idea was to have a drop in backup for my notebook that allows me to continue working with a minimum of delay. (requires a philips screwdriver though :-) Of course a failure of the source disk while doing the image copy as the worst case scenario would leave me with empty hands :-) There are a couple of partitions with different OSs on that hard drive. -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 15:55:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0512D1065680; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F788FC24; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so714030tid.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:54:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzF7KyW8E9yjslX5RslCk1acGJsne9Y6c3VC9WwLHZU=; b=tx1slFdHsFfwFxLacSvIj3OHbJ4C6NZ7PExKF1JOvnB1wPd+TeiDgVbTAu5BRJDLYq ZWmmj2yJzfZfOOarVVfYodrLMhAYEAvVXcMGJfu88Etld13pNXPpkL6o5p2H8heWNxkm f/YBGp4umMUSwaJ1tEMplvviBfqS33nbKdkHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=QsN9RdWo1K5pH4/8CMvpl65QfxUsHGt5XW3LhTyAFUFQy3DQQWAb4izuFopsxcLCMD cNXkknMNKK1zX9RAhsXxpLRxW0ODlXFbp3AYMT4WRZnt9thGPhSVgST0A1xXF4HL+l5Y Zw3+FMoqq9ZpeTnNzdEMnRQk/rsY3EdfusNxI= Received: by 10.110.46.3 with SMTP id t3mr8554059tit.30.1225468498322; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([124.43.192.0]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8sm3565725tia.8.2008.10.31.08.54.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:54:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Pramod Dematagoda To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081031152647.GA35240@icarus.home.lan> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031151525.GB34850@icarus.home.lan> <20081031152647.GA35240@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:24:52 +0530 Message-Id: <1225468492.11129.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:55:00 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 08:26 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:15:25AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > Are you sure this machine does not have hardware problems? Please > > download and run memtest86++ from a CD. You shouldn't have to run this > > very long (15-20 minutes at tops in this case); errors will be quite > > obvious. > > Oops, this should have been memtest86+. :-) > > http://www.memtest.org/ > I did the memtest and it passed. I changed the shell to /bin/sh and it now seems to work fine, but really saying, sh seems to be crippled compared to csh, so I would like to get back to csh. I can help you guys debug the problem, but I am not a debug wizard, so please forgive me if I am slow on the uptake of some of your instructions:). Regards, Pramod Dematagoda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:01:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AB41065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3DD8FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmd.lotr.gandalf@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so715038tid.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:01:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gFnb1vMb7xLvVb/0ubhxW0oGS7QAilQnHCFAgW0dzec=; b=wDwEAxMEpW44GQStcHFmmL3TJg9CsLlB2QJxispLNbY57U+aorFiQhDkdBstdQ3829 0WIGf4tBvTjhwWC8YXoJ1NV6DfKPcCxSOlUI7k5rMIGBEZLn5UL0B15FhmMXRYk9VP78 0ic55TbxzOR/AmDMc4LeF5vo8JRAzl01kTO24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pe8Gbqj22hLAEC6Ec+DckgjL9UvgI08Wv+XtH2M2Yj6t8+1NcNjhJLQy8luwKiuHxF On2iKWuTsHU9CvTiD6ompYPvj66mYtHFcfkIveVNmDH8/7RcPCxXIn/WxjBPhsQjn/Rv oCLx/HCrl2RxnLfHFWJUcuERX+dTMwcXKyqK0= Received: by 10.110.43.20 with SMTP id q20mr7412800tiq.15.1225468860989; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ([124.43.192.0]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm6374349tim.11.2008.10.31.09.00.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Pramod Dematagoda To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <916203.33608.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <916203.33608.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:30:55 +0530 Message-Id: <1225468855.11129.5.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:02 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 08:19 -0700, mdh wrote: > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > From: Pramod Dematagoda > > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 > > To: "Mel" > > Cc: "FreeBSD ML" > > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:09 AM > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: > > > On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod Dematagoda > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, Jeremy > > Chadwick wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM +0530, > > Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > > > > But now I've faced a big problem, I > > can no longer seem to login to the > > > > > > root account where whenever I supply > > the proper credentials to the > > > > > > login screen, I always get thrown back > > to the login screen. This > > > > > > started happening after I installed > > D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > > > > ports which were built upon Xorg 1.5.1 > > which I had built myself > > > > > > previously, so I am wondering if > > something I did may have caused the > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > Reboot the machine and at the FreeBSD > > beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > > > > boot into single-user mode. Once there, do: > > > > > > > > > > # mount -a > > > > > # mount -o rw -u / > > > > > # passwd root > > > > > > > > > > And change the password. "reboot" > > and you should be good to go. > > > > > > > > Hey Jeremy, > > > > > > > > Thanks for looking into the problem, but > > unfortunately your solution did > > > > not work, I changed the root password to > > something else, however I still > > > > cannot login to root once I boot FreeBSD > > normally. > > > > > > There should be in indication in /var/log/messages or > > /var/log/auth.log. > > > > > I checked /var/log/messages, and I found something > > interesting, it seems > > that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right after a > > root login, > > there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. But now > > what do I do > > to fix the problem, change the shell? > > Yeowzers. > Change it to /bin/sh for now. Once you're back up, it'd be interesting to debug this. Would you like to? > - mdh I found something a bit more interesting, csh crashes regardless of the user account to which it is used for, so something is wrong with csh itself and not the root account. Regards, Pramod Dematagoda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:01:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8C31065673 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1720C8FC27 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 30178 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 16:01:20 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Oct 2008 16:01:20 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EF22D5082C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:01:18 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd777 References: <20218788.post@talk.nabble.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:01:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20218788.post@talk.nabble.com> (freebsd's message of "Tue\, 28 Oct 2008 17\:19\:00 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44d4hgda9d.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libexpat is missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:01:21 -0000 freebsd777 writes: > Hi there, > > Under FreeBsd 6.2 version, > while I was trying to install Krang software this is an error message below. > > I set up compat5 and expat2 in /usr/ports to get libexpat. But it is still > not working. > > Does anyone know how to get libexpat? Just a wild guess: the build script for "Krang" isn't setting up the library path properly for FreeBSD. Maybe it's looking for an X11R6 tree that you don't have? > ---------------------- Error ----------------------------- > SeaAd# bin/krang_build > > ATTEMPTING: Mandrake9_2 > ATTEMPTING: Fedora9 > ATTEMPTING: Debian > ATTEMPTING: MacOSX > ATTEMPTING: FreeBSD > Building for platform 'FreeBSD'. > > libexpat is missing from your system, Krang could not find it or we couldn't > include it. > This library is required by Krang. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/libexpat-is-missing-tp20218788p20218788.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:05:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA24106567A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D148FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24868 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 16:05:29 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Oct 2008 16:05:29 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B3C945082C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:05:28 -0400 (EDT) To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:05:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> (Jeremy Chadwick's message of "Thu\, 30 Oct 2008 16\:39\:33 -0700") Message-ID: <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Jack Barnett , Freebsd questions , mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Freebsd questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:05:31 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick writes: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:34:31PM -0500, Jack Barnett wrote: >> >> Ok, I had some progress with this last night. Basically what I do is: >> >> in natd - redirect_port 1000 to 10000 to the internal windows box. >> set ipfw to "open" file wall. >> >> Obviously this isn't prefect - but gives some idea of what's going on. >> >> What I'd like to do, is a) keep the nat redirects since that works >> pretty well. >> b) in ipfw, ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has >> established the connection out first then deny everything else. > > This is called "port triggering" in the residential router world. I > don't know how to do this on FreeBSD. Stateful rules are the only way to do it. In fact, this is the main purpose of stateful rules. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:10:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6E91065679 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087198FC21 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZUA11a00S0b6N64A8UAD13; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:13 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZU9p1a00t2P6wsM8PU9uWm; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:09:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=aeNJTPYlkxznVfWyPO8A:9 a=m1wMjBu197KkGEAHCABYufuO5t4A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A370C9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:09:49 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Freebsd questions Message-ID: <20081031160949.GA36045@icarus.home.lan> References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Jack Barnett , mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:10:14 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:05:28PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick writes: > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:34:31PM -0500, Jack Barnett wrote: > >> > >> Ok, I had some progress with this last night. Basically what I do is: > >> > >> in natd - redirect_port 1000 to 10000 to the internal windows box. > >> set ipfw to "open" file wall. > >> > >> Obviously this isn't prefect - but gives some idea of what's going on. > >> > >> What I'd like to do, is a) keep the nat redirects since that works > >> pretty well. > >> b) in ipfw, ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has > >> established the connection out first then deny everything else. > > > > This is called "port triggering" in the residential router world. I > > don't know how to do this on FreeBSD. > > Stateful rules are the only way to do it. > In fact, this is the main purpose of stateful rules. Read this part of the thread, where I outline protocol flow (based on what the OP has stated about the protocol, which so far appears to be accurate): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/thread.html Stateful rules will not solve this problem. The OP wants a feature that tells ipfw or pf "after the TCP handshake has completed, dynamically add a port forward for port X on interface Y to machine A on port Z; when the TCP session is FIN'd cleanly, or extinguishes, dynamically remove that port forward". -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:12:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800F91065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E10A8FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9VG9YWT018267; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:09:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m9VG9YjJ018266; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:09:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:09:34 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081031160934.GA18219@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031153709.GC17878@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <490B28D0.8070206@kukulies.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490B28D0.8070206@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:12:48 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Jerry McAllister schrieb: > >On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > > > >>Hi list, > >> > >>I'm considering using a bootable USB stick with FreeBSD to perform a > >>backup of my notebooks' > >>500 GB hard disk to a physically identical (same make, same type, same > >>size) hard disk attached to USB. > >> > >>What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm > >>using dd right now, > >> > >>dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 > >> > >>but maybe there is a utility which does this faster or a larger buffer > >>size? Probably the limit will be > >>the USB 2.0 bus speed anyway? > >> > > > >Are you sure you want to do a sector-by-sector copy? > >That won't get you much that is useful in terms of a backup. > > > >Can't you use dump/restore instead? > > > >Dump each file system on /dev/ad0 to a file on /dev/da0. > > > >Create a file system on /dev/da0 using newfs first. You may or > >may not want to create a FreeBSD slice and partition there before > >doing the newfs. > >Make a mount point and mount it. > > > >mkdir /bkmnt > >mount /dev/da0 /bkmnt Or if you created slice and partition in /dev/da0 > > mount /dev/da0s1a /bkmnt > > > >Then do the dumps > > > > dump 0af /bkmnt/rootbackup / > > dump 0af /bkmnt/usrbackup /usr > > dump 0af /bkmnt/homehackup /home > > > >etc for whatever file systems you want to back up. > > > >You will be much better off than with a sector by sector copy. > > > >////jerry > > > > The idea was to have a drop in backup for my notebook that allows me to > continue working with a minimum of delay. (requires a philips > screwdriver though :-) > > Of course a failure of the source disk while doing the image copy as the > worst case scenario > would leave me with empty hands :-) > > There are a couple of partitions with different OSs on that hard drive. Still, that is not really the best way to do backups. For the FreeBSD, you can build the slice and partitions in it and back up each appropriately. Make mount points as needed mkdir /bkroot mkdir /bkusr mkdir /bkhome etc Do the mounts mount /dev/da0s1a /bkroot mount /dev/da0s1d /bkusr mount /dev/da0s1g /bkhome etc as appropriate Make sure those filesystems on the USB are empty. Then use dump/retore to make the copies cd /bkroot dump 0af - / | restore -rf - cd /bkusr dump 0af - /usr | restore -rf - cd /bkhome dump 0af - /home | restore -rf - etc as appropriate This makes a much more reliable backup that the sector by sector thing. If you make the slice bootable and have an MBR, it can be bootable. It takes care of any difference in device size/block counts and dealing with back blocks transparently. If you have more than one slice and each has a different OS, then you need to make an equivalent backup for each OS to the appropriate slice on the USB. ////jerry > > -- > Christoph > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:13:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED421065675 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 843768FC1E for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 53372 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2008 16:13:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=1lq3D1gS11YPxB8qnJ0VlkHUDiZxtM2MHy3lHUBWRLyQNzCY2mCAWv4kFxq07yxgjYsSIzCS/1qnoTSsbl7oyC7WSr5JHfbHYHLE7eNyVhCG4bvEcdOI9Ccz4Yaa+8KVS9rEsF04DAaE0eeKVW9Nw80VMEtqFk7un09mOXVJoks=; X-YMail-OSG: oi0V09MVM1k2lPnFIqc00FkHWXlIW1vzSXJQUq19ZXxt9ZUXiUQM8pJefUnVOD0_9YnlVuaeLFhh5YpfQ7pgHtEPFkCOsfKG1sOdbC3cGxTi71dCadFsCI5xXdZJLmEIx99qPUXdJYCQt7YNeCmWwaiDyuH5y6OqxLeXLgywyeJy9Oi9Z31gi_klSiSUfHE6_ohpJ4rTpJDq8_pEJQ-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:13:14 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Pramod Dematagoda In-Reply-To: <1225468855.11129.5.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <905371.53351.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:13:16 -0000 --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > From: Pramod Dematagoda > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 > To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com > Cc: "FreeBSD ML" > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:00 PM > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 08:19 -0700, mdh wrote: > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda > wrote: > > > From: Pramod Dematagoda > > > > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on > FreeBSD 7.0 > > > To: "Mel" > > > > Cc: "FreeBSD ML" > > > > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:09 AM > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: > > > > On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod > Dematagoda > > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, > Jeremy > > > Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM > +0530, > > > Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > > > > > But now I've faced a big > problem, I > > > can no longer seem to login to the > > > > > > > root account where whenever I > supply > > > the proper credentials to the > > > > > > > login screen, I always get > thrown back > > > to the login screen. This > > > > > > > started happening after I > installed > > > D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > > > > > ports which were built upon > Xorg 1.5.1 > > > which I had built myself > > > > > > > previously, so I am wondering > if > > > something I did may have caused the > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Reboot the machine and at the > FreeBSD > > > beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > > > > > boot into single-user mode. Once > there, do: > > > > > > > > > > > > # mount -a > > > > > > # mount -o rw -u / > > > > > > # passwd root > > > > > > > > > > > > And change the password. > "reboot" > > > and you should be good to go. > > > > > > > > > > Hey Jeremy, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for looking into the problem, > but > > > unfortunately your solution did > > > > > not work, I changed the root password > to > > > something else, however I still > > > > > cannot login to root once I boot > FreeBSD > > > normally. > > > > > > > > There should be in indication in > /var/log/messages or > > > /var/log/auth.log. > > > > > > > I checked /var/log/messages, and I found > something > > > interesting, it seems > > > that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right > after a > > > root login, > > > there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. > But now > > > what do I do > > > to fix the problem, change the shell? > > > > Yeowzers. > > Change it to /bin/sh for now. Once you're back > up, it'd be interesting to debug this. Would you like > to? > > - mdh > > I found something a bit more interesting, csh crashes > regardless of the > user account to which it is used for, so something is wrong > with csh > itself and not the root account. > > Regards, > Pramod Dematagoda First, please post the output of `uname -a`. It'd be useful to know when you grabbed sources last, if you've built your own world at all, as well. This information is necessary before we continue. Also please post the output from the commands `ls -l /bin/csh` and `md5 /bin/csh`. While in sh, if you type /bin/csh to run csh, does it crash, or does it seem proper? If it seems proper, try and few commands and see if it still does. If it crashes, let's try some debugging. You should have a csh.core file, probably in /root. Run the command `gdb /bin/csh /root/csh.core` (replacing /root/csh.core to whatever path csh.core is in, if it's not in /root), and post the output to this list along with everything else I've asked for. Do that now. If that still doesn't work, I'm going to tell you to... Build it for debugging. cd to the directory /usr/src/bin/csh, and run the following commands: `CFLAGS='-ggdb' make`, then run `make install`. Once that's done, try /bin/csh again and if it crashes again, run `gdb /bin/csh` - when it crashes this time If you do not have a directory called /usr/src/bin/csh, you'll need to cvsup your src. Check through /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile and the handbook section on updating sources via cvsup. Once that's done, go back and run the commands in the following paragraph. Clearly, something is very wrong here. Note to others: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4895 Mar 19 2006 /usr/src/bin/csh/Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6882 May 16 2007 /usr/src/bin/csh/config.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2964 May 16 2007 /usr/src/bin/csh/config_p.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 28287 Apr 6 2004 /usr/src/bin/csh/host.defs -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1873 Feb 19 2006 /usr/src/bin/csh/iconv.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2391 Feb 19 2006 /usr/src/bin/csh/iconv_stub.c Those are the file modification times for the csh sources, so even if he's running an older -RELEASE there shouldn't be any incompatibility issues with the latest source tree. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:14:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510381065677 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4818FC1D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:57138 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KvweA-0006Pj-3l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:14:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 62331 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 17:14:49 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 31 Oct 2008 17:14:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 32374 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Oct 2008 17:14:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:14:49 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081031161449.GA31919@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <490B17D2.6010000@kukulies.org> <20081031151307.GA34850@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031151307.GA34850@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1KvweA-0006Pj-3l. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1KvweA-0006Pj-3l 3c32a7401cb303694d79bb4f5f2683ad Cc: Christoph Kukulies , Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:14:52 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:13:07AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 03:36:02PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > Ivan Voras schrieb: > >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >>> > >> > >> > >>>> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? I'm > >>>> using dd right now, > >>>> > >>>> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=10000000 > >>>> > >> > >> > >>> On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no good > >>> reason. I'd pick something more like bs=64k or bs=128k. The default > >>> (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. > >>> > >> > >> Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a > >> multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right thing: > >> > >> dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/da0 bs=1m > >> > >> > > OK, I understand that 10000000 isn't good, I just thought it wouldn't > > harm. But if it is a transfer rate killer then I'd better think of > > typing ^C now. The command is running for 6 hours now. > > Six hours? Hmm... That seems too long, but of course the FreeBSD USB > stack is involved, and a USB device in general. I would have assumed > that copy should have finished after 2-3 hours tops. 2-3 hours is about the *minimum* amount of time needed to read all of a large modern disk - and that is when you do the transfer over SATA/IDE. Over USB it will be significantly slower. A modern, fairly fast disk has an average sequential transfer rate of around 60MB/s (higher on the outer tracks, and lower on the innermost track, but the average will come out to about that.) Assume a 500GB disk. Then we get 500GB/(60MB/s) = 500*1000/60 s = 8333s = 2h18min to read all of it. Over USB you probably will not get much more than 20-25MB/s. 20MB/s is exactly a third of the 60MB/s we used earlier gives a total time of 3*(2h18min) ~= 7h. Those 6 hours do not sound unreasonable at all. (All of this assumes just reading the disk from start to end. If you need to seek back and forth it will take even longer.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:25:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78367106568D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FF58FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4269AFCF5B; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:25:22 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mdh_lists@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:25:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <905371.53351.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <905371.53351.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810311725.21619.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Pramod Dematagoda Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:25:24 -0000 On Friday 31 October 2008 17:13:14 mdh wrote: > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > From: Pramod Dematagoda > > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 > > To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com > > Cc: "FreeBSD ML" > > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:00 PM > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 08:19 -0700, mdh wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Pramod Dematagoda > > > > wrote: > > > > From: Pramod Dematagoda > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on > > > > FreeBSD 7.0 > > > > > > To: "Mel" > > > > > > > > > > Cc: "FreeBSD ML" > > > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:09 AM > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 16:00 +0100, Mel wrote: > > > > > On Friday 31 October 2008 15:53:23 Pramod > > > > Dematagoda > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 07:09 -0700, > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:59:04PM > > > > +0530, > > > > > > Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > > > > > > > > But now I've faced a big > > > > problem, I > > > > > > can no longer seem to login to the > > > > > > > > > > > > root account where whenever I > > > > supply > > > > > > the proper credentials to the > > > > > > > > > > > > login screen, I always get > > > > thrown back > > > > > > to the login screen. This > > > > > > > > > > > > started happening after I > > > > installed > > > > > > D-bus and HAL through the FreeBSD > > > > > > > > > > > > ports which were built upon > > > > Xorg 1.5.1 > > > > > > which I had built myself > > > > > > > > > > > > previously, so I am wondering > > > > if > > > > > > something I did may have caused the > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reboot the machine and at the > > > > FreeBSD > > > > > > beastie/loader menu, hit "4" to > > > > > > > > > > > boot into single-user mode. Once > > > > there, do: > > > > > > > # mount -a > > > > > > > # mount -o rw -u / > > > > > > > # passwd root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And change the password. > > > > "reboot" > > > > > > and you should be good to go. > > > > > > > > > > Hey Jeremy, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for looking into the problem, > > > > but > > > > > > unfortunately your solution did > > > > > > > > > > not work, I changed the root password > > > > to > > > > > > something else, however I still > > > > > > > > > > cannot login to root once I boot > > > > FreeBSD > > > > > > normally. > > > > > > > > > There should be in indication in > > > > /var/log/messages or > > > > > > /var/log/auth.log. > > > > > > > > I checked /var/log/messages, and I found > > > > something > > > > > > interesting, it seems > > > > that csh exits with signal 11(core dumped) right > > > > after a > > > > > > root login, > > > > there is nothing out of the ordinary in auth.log. > > > > But now > > > > > > what do I do > > > > to fix the problem, change the shell? > > > > > > Yeowzers. > > > Change it to /bin/sh for now. Once you're back > > > > up, it'd be interesting to debug this. Would you like > > to? > > > > > - mdh > > > > I found something a bit more interesting, csh crashes > > regardless of the > > user account to which it is used for, so something is wrong > > with csh > > itself and not the root account. > > > > Regards, > > Pramod Dematagoda > > First, please post the output of `uname -a`. It'd be useful to know when > you grabbed sources last, if you've built your own world at all, as well. > This information is necessary before we continue. Also please post the > output from the commands `ls -l /bin/csh` and `md5 /bin/csh`. > > While in sh, if you type /bin/csh to run csh, does it crash, or does it > seem proper? If it seems proper, try and few commands and see if it still > does. If it crashes, let's try some debugging. You should have a csh.core > file, probably in /root. Run the command `gdb /bin/csh /root/csh.core` > (replacing /root/csh.core to whatever path csh.core is in, if it's not in > /root), and post the output to this list along with everything else I've > asked for. > > Do that now. If that still doesn't work, I'm going to tell you to... > > Build it for debugging. cd to the directory /usr/src/bin/csh, and run the > following commands: `CFLAGS='-ggdb' make`, then run `make install`. No, we don't do that. We run: make DEBUG_FLAGS=-g clean all install because: a) setting CFLAGS omits CFLAGS from the bsd build system and that's not advised b) setting DEBUG_FLAGS disables strip on install (strip strips the debug symbols) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:29:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692E106564A; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F928FC18; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4FC16C008E; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:29:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9VGTVEi002207; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:29:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:29:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pramod Dematagoda Message-Id: <20081031172931.16090891.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1225468492.11129.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031140946.GA33710@icarus.home.lan> <1225464803.8828.2.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <200810311600.20023.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <1225465786.10152.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> <20081031151525.GB34850@icarus.home.lan> <20081031152647.GA35240@icarus.home.lan> <1225468492.11129.3.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD ML Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:29:34 -0000 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:24:52 +0530, Pramod Dematagoda wrote: > I changed the shell to /bin/sh and it > now seems to work fine, but really saying, sh seems to be crippled > compared to csh, so I would like to get back to csh. Please don't get confused: The Bourne Shell sh is to be considered a batch shell primarily, it's not a dialog shell in the first place. This is what the Bourne Again Shell bash would be mentioned as. You can install it via "pkg_add -r bash" and then use it (note that it's /usr/local/bin/bash then, not /bin/bash as in Linux). You can use the chsh command to do this. What does happen if you start a C Shell session from within the working sh? Like this: $ csh user@host:~% _ Does this work? Personally, the C shell is my favourite dialog shell, allthough zsh and ksh, both available for FreeBSD, are powerful tools, too. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:35:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1201065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135BA8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21787 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 16:35:31 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Oct 2008 16:35:31 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 87D8F5082C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:35:30 -0400 (EDT) To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20081031160949.GA36045@icarus.home.lan> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:35:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20081031160949.GA36045@icarus.home.lan> (Jeremy Chadwick's message of "Fri\, 31 Oct 2008 09\:09\:49 -0700") Message-ID: <444p2sd8od.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Jack Barnett , Freebsd questions , mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:35:32 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick writes: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:05:28PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Jeremy Chadwick writes: >> >> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:34:31PM -0500, Jack Barnett wrote: >> >> >> >> Ok, I had some progress with this last night. Basically what I do is: >> >> >> >> in natd - redirect_port 1000 to 10000 to the internal windows box. >> >> set ipfw to "open" file wall. >> >> >> >> Obviously this isn't prefect - but gives some idea of what's going on. >> >> >> >> What I'd like to do, is a) keep the nat redirects since that works >> >> pretty well. >> >> b) in ipfw, ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has >> >> established the connection out first then deny everything else. >> > >> > This is called "port triggering" in the residential router world. I >> > don't know how to do this on FreeBSD. >> >> Stateful rules are the only way to do it. >> In fact, this is the main purpose of stateful rules. > > Read this part of the thread, where I outline protocol flow (based on > what the OP has stated about the protocol, which so far appears to be > accurate): > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/thread.html > > Stateful rules will not solve this problem. > > The OP wants a feature that tells ipfw or pf "after the TCP handshake > has completed, dynamically add a port forward for port X on interface Y > to machine A on port Z; when the TCP session is FIN'd cleanly, or > extinguishes, dynamically remove that port forward". Okay, I guess I'm a little confused by the line about "ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has established the connection out first then deny everything else." I read that as saying that the Windows box had sent a packet on the same connection (4-tuple, at least) that should be later accepted heading *to* the Windows box. That's just a stateful rule, and it seems to be at odds with what you wrote in your first message in the thread. The apparent disagreement was why I said anything in the first place; it sounds like there's more than one model of how the game works. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:36:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF5A1065673 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 040868FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36473 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2008 16:36:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ldrM/vrSgZIbo3IlRRd91MRENStZs5dLLErMgvFX/1UEEKUxxW9DN+x4xL8LXSyZ+o2P/mMk1g9B6muQUMpj8xdjo+cm2rR9L/Iq/UTwPxbOiS1MskRqeKZbE3H8mdh7/jx8QpcYoOmMwzTKNb3u5JdjYdn2bcnGmbBQ6EBrwn8=; X-YMail-OSG: fzPMUX8VM1nX3yMEchK3Pev5pVHrg3CeMl5QmEPNRbmSuLFhTWeRXJZBE2tts.K4mqv.8YBQmcxgzBI5mrHwOddhH1H8NyMFrnLotJdGR6CGal08.bqCsBq9w28yWL150dC3F8RH8nzDcUdXwg3DkSvd1Q-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:36:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200810311725.21619.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <256922.36399.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:36:19 -0000 Right - sorry, my bad on that one. But do substitute -ggdb for your -g, as that'll give us GDB-specific debugging symbols. - mdh --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Mel wrote: > > Build it for debugging. cd to the directory > /usr/src/bin/csh, and run the > > following commands: `CFLAGS='-ggdb' make`, > then run `make install`. > > > No, we don't do that. We run: > make DEBUG_FLAGS=-g clean all install > > because: > a) setting CFLAGS omits CFLAGS from the bsd build system > and that's not > advised > b) setting DEBUG_FLAGS disables strip on install (strip > strips the debug > symbols) > > -- > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with > the modules > and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:04:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB79A106567A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2C98FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZV3g1a0030b6N64A4V4B3S; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:11 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZV3l1a01z2P6wsM8PV3oUG; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:03:52 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=8iwDuBYC723A0YfXIOIA:9 a=7ej-7wswwcpKf2MdIwuwbEuGu3sA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9890C9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:03:45 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20081031170345.GA36712@icarus.home.lan> References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20081031160949.GA36045@icarus.home.lan> <444p2sd8od.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <444p2sd8od.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Jack Barnett , Freebsd questions , mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:12 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:35:30PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick writes: > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:05:28PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >> Jeremy Chadwick writes: > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 06:34:31PM -0500, Jack Barnett wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Ok, I had some progress with this last night. Basically what I do is: > >> >> > >> >> in natd - redirect_port 1000 to 10000 to the internal windows box. > >> >> set ipfw to "open" file wall. > >> >> > >> >> Obviously this isn't prefect - but gives some idea of what's going on. > >> >> > >> >> What I'd like to do, is a) keep the nat redirects since that works > >> >> pretty well. > >> >> b) in ipfw, ONLY allow data back on these ports IF the windows box has > >> >> established the connection out first then deny everything else. > >> > > >> > This is called "port triggering" in the residential router world. I > >> > don't know how to do this on FreeBSD. > >> > >> Stateful rules are the only way to do it. > >> In fact, this is the main purpose of stateful rules. > > > > Read this part of the thread, where I outline protocol flow (based on > > what the OP has stated about the protocol, which so far appears to be > > accurate): > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-October/thread.html > > > > Stateful rules will not solve this problem. > > > > The OP wants a feature that tells ipfw or pf "after the TCP handshake > > has completed, dynamically add a port forward for port X on interface Y > > to machine A on port Z; when the TCP session is FIN'd cleanly, or > > extinguishes, dynamically remove that port forward". > > Okay, I guess I'm a little confused by the line about "ONLY allow data > back on these ports IF the windows box has established the connection > out first then deny everything else." I read that as saying that the > Windows box had sent a packet on the same connection (4-tuple, at > least) that should be later accepted heading *to* the Windows box. > That's just a stateful rule, and it seems to be at odds with what you > wrote in your first message in the thread. The apparent disagreement > was why I said anything in the first place; it sounds like there's > more than one model of how the game works. I understand the confusion. Here's the actual protocol that the game appears to be using (since the OP has stated forwarding a port range to his LAN PC solves the problem -- meaning, his original description of how the game protocol worked is accurate): windows = 192.168.x.x machine on the LAN natgwlan = private LAN-facing IP of FreeBSD box (e.g. gateway IP) natgwwan = public Internet-facing IP of FreeBSD box gameserver = game server (public Internet IP) * = randomly-allocated port number gameport = some static port # for the game (OP hasn't disclosed this) range = some specific range of port numbers (OP says 1000-10000) This is what would happen if the windows machine was on the Internet directly (no NAT, no firewall): Step 1) windows:* --> gameserver:gameport Step 2) gameserver:* --> windows:range Note that the randomly-allocated port number is *not* identical between all of the above steps; literally each is a new port and unrelated to the previous -- hence why state tracking won't work. Now with NAT in the way, this is what happens for Step 1: windows:* <--> natgwlan natgwwan:* <--> gameserver:gameport Once the TCP handshake is completed for Step 1, the following happens as a result of Step 2 -- again, note this is a *brand new connection* being initiated from the gameserver: gameserver:* <--> natgwwan:range The problem is that these are all brand new connections being initiated, and there's no way to cross-reference them, which is why state tracking won't work to solve the OPs problem. The "port triggering" method I described above, commonly available on residential routers, is configured so that once the TCP handshake is completed in Step 1, the router/natgw *immediately* adds a port forward and firewall allow/pass rule (you have to configure it to say what port range to forward, and what LAN IP to forward the packets to). Thus, the following would happen immediately after the TCP handshake was completed in Step 1: - natgw adds a firewall pass rule for natgwwan:range - natgw adds a forwarding rule for natgwwan:1000 --> windows, where the port number matches (e.g. natgwwan:1000 --> windows:1000) This pass/allow rule and the forward remains intact until the "port triggered" connection is severed (FIN or expired). It does not expire/close based upon the connection made in Step 1. This would allow Step to work, and would look like this with NAT in the way: gameserver:* <--> natgwwan:range natgwlan --> windows:range This is as verbose as I can get, and based upon the forwarding and the firewall rules the OP added, this does appear to be the protocol the game uses. And yes, this is a *horrible* protocol, completely NAT- unfriendly. The only part that confuses me is how the gameserver knows what port number (e.g. "range") to connect to on natgwwan; I assume this port number is somehow negotiated during Step 1, so that gameserver knows to connect to windows:1000, windows:1578, windows:9739, etc.... you get the point. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:04:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473F31065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2176A8FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTn31a0070x6nqcAAV4hWs; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:41 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZV4g1a0082P6wsM8YV4gr6; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0Sda9HvoHXAA:10 a=eHvR7BKzp5cA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=IUdo0HpZsVTwlejgcP0A:9 a=2jvPndWJvHxB9qtKAB-mR45qJLAA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 571E8C9421; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:04:40 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: mdh Message-ID: <20081031170440.GB36712@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810311725.21619.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <256922.36399.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <256922.36399.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:04:42 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:36:17AM -0700, mdh wrote: > Right - sorry, my bad on that one. But do substitute -ggdb for your -g, as that'll give us GDB-specific debugging symbols. Best not to take any chances. Use both: -g3 -ggdb :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 16:57:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728EE106567B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA54B8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 92565 invoked by uid 89); 31 Oct 2008 16:31:08 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO desktop2002) (maslak@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2008 16:31:07 -0000 Message-ID: <580480006E6C4B4699FE89EBF5E38145@desktop2002> From: "Yavuz Maslak" To: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:31:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:14:34 +0000 Subject: about vi editor and turkish char X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:57:51 -0000 Hello I use Freebsd7.0. I am not able to use turkish char while I edit a file with vi editor. How can I correct that ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:27:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97431065673 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA798FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 9997 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 17:27:42 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Oct 2008 17:27:42 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 0560E5082C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:27:40 -0400 (EDT) To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20081031160949.GA36045@icarus.home.lan> <444p2sd8od.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20081031170345.GA36712@icarus.home.lan> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:27:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20081031170345.GA36712@icarus.home.lan> (Jeremy Chadwick's message of "Fri\, 31 Oct 2008 10\:03\:45 -0700") Message-ID: <44iqr8broz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:27:43 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick writes: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:35:30PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Okay, I guess I'm a little confused by the line about "ONLY allow data >> back on these ports IF the windows box has established the connection >> out first then deny everything else." I read that as saying that the >> Windows box had sent a packet on the same connection (4-tuple, at >> least) that should be later accepted heading *to* the Windows box. >> That's just a stateful rule, and it seems to be at odds with what you >> wrote in your first message in the thread. The apparent disagreement >> was why I said anything in the first place; it sounds like there's >> more than one model of how the game works. > > I understand the confusion. Here's the actual protocol that the game > appears to be using (since the OP has stated forwarding a port range to > his LAN PC solves the problem -- meaning, his original description of > how the game protocol worked is accurate): I see. If that is the case, then the word "connection" in the line I quoted from Jack Barnett does *not* mean a TCP session, but something a little more nebulous. "Game session" might cover it. [I *was* aware of that possible confusion, which was why I specified an address/port tuple as the definition of "connection."] Sorry for the distraction; I see that (short of a deep-inspection snooping of the protocol), what has already been done is as good as you can get. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:31:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D77106567B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE38FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 90979382E1; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:58:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C7F38293; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:58:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BA437E43; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:58:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:58:06 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Cavanaugh References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CUPS wont print inside GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@raggens.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:31:58 -0000 Sean Cavanaugh skrev: > I have the latest GNOME installed from ports and have the odd issue of CUPS not wanting to work with it right. > > If i access the CUPS web configuration page, i can print test pages just fine and not a single issue, but if i try and print a test page from inside GNOME, including trying with the gnome-cups-manager port, it will stop and present the following error > "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/pstoraster failed"this error will carry over to the web interface and those jobs are pretty much hosed, yet i can create a test print from web interface even when this error is present. > > I do notice that test pages from web interface come from user "anonymous" whereas test pages from gnome-cups-manager are from the respected user that ran it. > even root is unable to print from inside gnome. > > -Sean > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1757 - Release Date: 2008-10-30 14:35 > Hi Sean, I assume you have cups-pstoraster installed? It should be installed when installing CUPS itself. If you built Gnome from source you should have this in /etc/make.conf CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes NO_LPR=yes WITH_CUPS=yes /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:33:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288E5106564A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8978B8FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08358; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:24:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-88-217-67-110.dynamic.mnet-online.de(88.217.67.110) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma008290; Fri, 31 Oct 08 18:24:32 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m9VHXBWJ002349; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:33:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:33:10 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Yavuz Maslak Message-ID: <20081031173310.GA2259@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <580480006E6C4B4699FE89EBF5E38145@desktop2002> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <580480006E6C4B4699FE89EBF5E38145@desktop2002> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about vi editor and turkish char X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:33:44 -0000 El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 06:31:02PM +0200, Yavuz Maslak escribió: > Hello > > I use Freebsd7.0. > I am not able to use turkish char while I edit a file with vi editor. > > How can I correct that ? Hello, You could use a 'xterm' with UTF-8 support, a correct LANG environment, for example LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, and the editor 'vim' (from the ports); to enter UTF-8 chars which are not on your keyboard you could use, for example, KDE's application KCharSelect HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:34:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E54A1065688 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3978FC2A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZU8Z1a00517UAYkA3VaL2A; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZVaK1a0012P6wsM8ZVaKwD; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:34:19 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=AHdkc52Rog0YKxYq2NgA:9 a=qOObs8xYG3Y63d3KdUT5b5ZjqBcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F29F6C9421; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:34:18 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20081031173418.GA37710@icarus.home.lan> References: <367168.61424.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <490A4487.8020101@gmail.com> <20081030233933.GB16747@icarus.home.lan> <448ws4da2f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20081031160949.GA36045@icarus.home.lan> <444p2sd8od.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20081031170345.GA36712@icarus.home.lan> <44iqr8broz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44iqr8broz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: Firewalls in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:34:20 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 01:27:40PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick writes: > > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:35:30PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > >> Okay, I guess I'm a little confused by the line about "ONLY allow data > >> back on these ports IF the windows box has established the connection > >> out first then deny everything else." I read that as saying that the > >> Windows box had sent a packet on the same connection (4-tuple, at > >> least) that should be later accepted heading *to* the Windows box. > >> That's just a stateful rule, and it seems to be at odds with what you > >> wrote in your first message in the thread. The apparent disagreement > >> was why I said anything in the first place; it sounds like there's > >> more than one model of how the game works. > > > > I understand the confusion. Here's the actual protocol that the game > > appears to be using (since the OP has stated forwarding a port range to > > his LAN PC solves the problem -- meaning, his original description of > > how the game protocol worked is accurate): > > I see. If that is the case, then the word "connection" in the line I > quoted from Jack Barnett does *not* mean a TCP session, but something > a little more nebulous. "Game session" might cover it. > > [I *was* aware of that possible confusion, which was why I specified > an address/port tuple as the definition of "connection."] > > Sorry for the distraction; I see that (short of a deep-inspection > snooping of the protocol), what has already been done is as good as > you can get. Nah, it's cool -- the misunderstanding is... understandable. :-) I've never seen a game behave this way (specifically, the gameserver initiating a *brand new connection* rather than utilising an existing one, or having the client initiate a connection to the server -- in which case, a stateful firewall will work perfectly and no firewall rules are needed). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 17:47:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34359106571D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s37.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s37.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA8B8FC1E for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W27 ([65.55.131.62]) by bay0-omc1-s37.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:47:49 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [204.249.77.1] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:47:49 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> References: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2008 17:47:49.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAA455F0:01C93B80] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: CUPS wont print inside GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:47:50 -0000 > Date: Fri=2C 31 Oct 2008 17:58:06 +0100 > From: 240olofsson@telia.com > To: millenia2000@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CUPS wont print inside GNOME >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sean Cavanaugh skrev: > > I have the latest GNOME installed from ports and have the odd issue of = CUPS not wanting to work with it right. > >=20 > > If i access the CUPS web configuration page=2C i can print test pages j= ust fine and not a single issue=2C but if i try and print a test page from = inside GNOME=2C including trying with the gnome-cups-manager port=2C it wil= l stop and present the following error > > "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/pstoraster failed"this error will carry= over to the web interface and those jobs are pretty much hosed=2C yet i ca= n create a test print from web interface even when this error is present. > >=20 > > I do notice that test pages from web interface come from user "anonymou= s" whereas test pages from gnome-cups-manager are from the respected user t= hat ran it. > > even root is unable to print from inside gnome. > >=20 > > -Sean > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" > >=20 > >=20 > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > >=20 > >=20 > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1757 - Release Date: 2008-10= -30 14:35 > >=20 >=20 > Hi Sean=2C >=20 > I assume you have cups-pstoraster installed? It should be installed when= =20 > installing CUPS itself. >=20 > If you built Gnome from source you should have this in /etc/make.conf >=20 > CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=3Dyes > NO_LPR=3Dyes > WITH_CUPS=3Dyes >=20 > /Roger i have cups-pstoraster installed. like i said=2C i can get a test page to p= rint fine from the CUPS web page=2C just not if it was initialized inside g= nome even though i do see the print jobs sitting in the queue for the print= er with status "Stopped". Restarting the jobs doesnt help them any either. i installed everything from ports but my make.conf file is a little bare UnKnown# less /etc/make.conf=20 # added by use.perl 2008-10-23 14:57:35 PERL_VER=3D5.8.8 PERL_VERSION=3D5.8.8 -Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 18:02:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022B5106568F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com) Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9ADC8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com) Received: (qmail 96329 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2008 17:36:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=TRJe8KonI0zx6t+d3ZJeoiHqSjCVdWGP76A0z3TTnM53GQl7NbPV0idVS0kbNR9dehuKKePyU2EwyBy1E637qQbfr888dxfRbbgMkwmsWdVXWC9yrB0iHO1RC3l1jY2LXuGVnh1fIiUDPaS/1bRIRcTq7ZOwaEOJAPPL+pCDWQc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w2fzz0vc03.aah-go-on.com) (Thomas.Sparrevohn@86.133.208.69 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2008 17:36:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: h3fl1QIVM1nEZepaWMTyyWqF0hSdgmRjjJ3W.sCYC4pH6sZd2ryhnZF0gCBAH4uvMt_lQh57Mw.MU9llx3Y1.zcjyMWXEEMR_F3dYIvKb8laaDrTrM.gMppZ4Ofq6t9hur4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Thomas Sparrevohn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:36:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <49082625.7080804@telus.net> <20081029100439.GA73714@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081029100439.GA73714@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810311736.09706.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> Cc: Carl , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:02:52 -0000 On Wednesday 29 October 2008 10:04:39 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 02:00:21AM -0700, Carl wrote: > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> Seagate chooses to encode some raw data for some SMART attributes in a > >> custom format. The format is not publicly documented. This is why you > >> have to go off of the adjusted values shown in VALUE/WORST/THRESH. > >> "How am I supposed to know all of this?!" You aren't -- it comes with > >> experience. > > > > And yet my failing drive's VALUE numbers are still all above their > > THRESH values, despite it being bad enough to cripple the system. One > > might argue those threshold values leave something to be desired. > > I'd urge you to file complaint(s) with drive manufacturers, as they're > the ones who decide the values. Thresholds are not defined per the > ATA-ATAPI specification, so technically they can pick whatever value > they want. This is exactly why you'll encounter people screaming "SMART > is worthless, the drive is already dead by the time the overall SMART > health check fails!" > > If you go this route, please CC me, as I'd be quite to see what > manufacturers have to say. > Just a saw note - I saw the same problem with a hitachi disk - I ran a vendor diagnostics tool that I found on their home page and it rebuild the bad sector map and the problem went away The error occured after I had the disk for a couple of days - WHat puzzled me was that the drive did not do it automatically From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 18:49:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53981065690 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E998FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B265150B2F for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:49:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9811950A07 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:49:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490B5324.4080106@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:49:08 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> In-Reply-To: <1225459744.3714.10.camel@pramod-laptop.fednet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: Cannot login to root account on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:49:07 -0000 Uit een eerder bericht (31-10-2008 14:29): > But now I've faced a big problem, I can no longer seem to login to the > root account where whenever I supply the proper credentials to the login > screen, I always get thrown back to the login screen. Stupid question perhaps: do you try to login locally of thru SSH/Terminal session? Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 19:00:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B671065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederic.perrin@resel.fr) Received: from maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr (maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.76.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14648FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederic.perrin@resel.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72AB19D22 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at resel.fr Received: from maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercure.adm.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6fyeqLqE-Nua for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr (chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr [172.22.209.241]) (Authenticated sender: fperrin) by maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D4319CFD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 144DEB826; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:45 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric_Perrin?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9seau?= des =?utf-8?B?w4lsw6h2ZXM=?= Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:44 +0100 Message-ID: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Behaviour of su(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:00:18 -0000 Hello, When I =C2=AB=C2=A0su -=C2=A0=C2=BB to root (after being logged in as my no= rmal user), the LOGNAME env variable is still set to my previous user, as in : ,---- | fred@chameau:~% /usr/bin/su -l | Password: | root@chameau:~# echo $USER - $LOGNAME | root - fred `---- As far as I can tell, this contradicts the fine manual that says : ,---- | -l Simulate a full login. The environment is discarded except for | HOME, SHELL, PATH, TERM, and USER. `---- So I would have expected LOGNAME to be either empty or set by some shell startup script to be root. So, why is LOGNAME still equal to my previous user ? (and where is it set ? =C2=AB grep -r LOGNAME /etc =C2=BB doesn't tu= rn up anything...) This is an issue because emacs, for instance, uses $LOGNAME to load the init-file. I could always add =C2=AB export LOGNAME=3Droot =C2=BB to my she= ll startup file, but this doesn't quite feel right... GNU su (as it is ocnfigured in Debian at least) resets LOGNAME to root in the same situation. (and by the way, GNU su seems broken : if I =C2=AB= =C2=A0gsu -l root=C2=A0=C2=BB, I always get a 'Password incorrect' answer). As a side question, is it considered bad practice to set root's shell and locales to something else then the default ? --=20 Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 19:04:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F1A106567B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035318FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id D1B7238390; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.93]) by av11-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD6637E7C; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp4-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849F437E42; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490B4F6E.8060505@telia.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:33:18 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Cavanaugh References: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: raggen@raggens.net, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: CUPS wont print inside GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@raggens.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:04:59 -0000 Sean Cavanaugh skrev: >> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:58:06 +0100 >> From: 240olofsson@telia.com >> To: millenia2000@hotmail.com >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: CUPS wont print inside GNOME >> >> >> >> Sean Cavanaugh skrev: >>> I have the latest GNOME installed from ports and have the odd issue of CUPS not wanting to work with it right. >>> >>> If i access the CUPS web configuration page, i can print test pages just fine and not a single issue, but if i try and print a test page from inside GNOME, including trying with the gnome-cups-manager port, it will stop and present the following error >>> "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/pstoraster failed"this error will carry over to the web interface and those jobs are pretty much hosed, yet i can create a test print from web interface even when this error is present. >>> >>> I do notice that test pages from web interface come from user "anonymous" whereas test pages from gnome-cups-manager are from the respected user that ran it. >>> even root is unable to print from inside gnome. >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1757 - Release Date: 2008-10-30 14:35 >>> >> Hi Sean, >> >> I assume you have cups-pstoraster installed? It should be installed when >> installing CUPS itself. >> >> If you built Gnome from source you should have this in /etc/make.conf >> >> CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes >> NO_LPR=yes >> WITH_CUPS=yes >> >> /Roger > > > i have cups-pstoraster installed. like i said, i can get a test page to print fine from the CUPS web page, just not if it was initialized inside gnome even though i do see the print jobs sitting in the queue for the printer with status "Stopped". Restarting the jobs doesnt help them any either. > > i installed everything from ports but my make.conf file is a little bare > > UnKnown# less /etc/make.conf > # added by use.perl 2008-10-23 14:57:35 > PERL_VER=5.8.8 > PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 > > > -Sean > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1757 - Release Date: 2008-10-30 14:35 > Hi again Sean, Add the lines, make reinstall and see if Gnome picks it up.. There's an excellent site at http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/ that has CUPS related information. Please let the list know if it helps! /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 19:17:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D372F106567C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout013.mac.com (asmtpout013.mac.com [17.148.16.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EF48FC22 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp013.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0K9M006LWAWCM970@asmtp013.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <198CF2A0-D783-4B64-AC34-DAAA3B8E8DD7@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Perrin?= In-reply-to: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:17:00 -0700 References: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Behaviour of su(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:17:14 -0000 Hi-- On Oct 31, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Fr=E9d=E9ric Perrin wrote: > When I =AB su - =BB to root (after being logged in as my normal user), = the > LOGNAME env variable is still set to my previous user, as in : > > ,---- > | fred@chameau:~% /usr/bin/su -l > | Password: > | root@chameau:~# echo $USER - $LOGNAME > | root - fred > `---- > > As far as I can tell, this contradicts the fine manual that says : > > ,---- > | -l Simulate a full login. The environment is discarded =20 > except for > | HOME, SHELL, PATH, TERM, and USER. > `---- > > So I would have expected LOGNAME to be either empty or set by some =20 > shell > startup script to be root. So, why is LOGNAME still equal to my =20 > previous > user ? (and where is it set ? =AB grep -r LOGNAME /etc =BB doesn't = turn up > anything...) When you "su -l" it invokes /usr/bin/login, which per "man login" sets =20= up up $LOGNAME: The login utility enters information into the environment (see environ(7)) specifying the user's home directory (HOME), command =20= inter- preter (SHELL), search path (PATH), terminal type (TERM) and =20 user name (both LOGNAME and USER). I believe it looks up the actual username from the wtmp record =20 associated with your open tty, so $USER corresponds to the effective =20 userid, but $LOGNAME corresponds to the actual username used to login, =20= aka your "real userid"...? Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 19:27:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456A7106567B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcondo@quinn.com) Received: from sushi.quinn.com (sushi.quinn.com [216.27.181.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E028FC27 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fcondo@quinn.com) Received: from earth-pea.quinn.com (sashimi.quinn.com [216.27.181.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by sushi.quinn.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9VJRbx5019508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fcondo@quinn.com) Message-Id: <6F644950-947E-4D7E-85D7-E992E2A80A8D@quinn.com> From: Fred Condo To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Perrin?= In-Reply-To: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:27:37 -0700 References: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Behaviour of su(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:27:41 -0000 Use this syntax (both equivalent): su - root su -l root You do have to specify the user with -l. Perhaps the man page could =20 clarify that. On Oct 31, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Fr=E9d=E9ric Perrin wrote: > Hello, > > When I =AB su - =BB to root (after being logged in as my normal user), = the > LOGNAME env variable is still set to my previous user, as in : > > ,---- > | fred@chameau:~% /usr/bin/su -l > | Password: > | root@chameau:~# echo $USER - $LOGNAME > | root - fred > `---- > > As far as I can tell, this contradicts the fine manual that says : > > ,---- > | -l Simulate a full login. The environment is discarded =20 > except for > | HOME, SHELL, PATH, TERM, and USER. > `---- > > So I would have expected LOGNAME to be either empty or set by some =20 > shell > startup script to be root. So, why is LOGNAME still equal to my =20 > previous > user ? (and where is it set ? =AB grep -r LOGNAME /etc =BB doesn't = turn up > anything...) > > This is an issue because emacs, for instance, uses $LOGNAME to load =20= > the > init-file. I could always add =AB export LOGNAME=3Droot =BB to my = shell > startup file, but this doesn't quite feel right... > > GNU su (as it is ocnfigured in Debian at least) resets LOGNAME to root > in the same situation. (and by the way, GNU su seems broken : if I =AB = =20 > gsu > -l root =BB, I always get a 'Password incorrect' answer). > > As a side question, is it considered bad practice to set root's shell > and locales to something else then the default ? > > --=20 > Fred > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 20:24:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FEB106567A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378B38FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9VKOKhd092502 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:57 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081031202354.GA5768@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: why does firefox not display icons? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:24:02 -0000 Hey guys, in trying to get firefox to work with flash-9, i must have done Something so that now, ff no longer displays, say, the google icons. there is just a red dot, or the string "[IMAGE]" where a jpg should be. thanks for any clues, -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 20:32:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325E41065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A098FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1406718wfg.7 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:32:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Dc7fPEivN1CqUTk4duSbA6LaQcE0UWujmzkA8JKBng4=; b=u5ihbd53A453/3IL+f+s018lW4IfRebidwB6ERM7eNZVx4A8o3aWjRmNmBKyWpaFc3 8e8L27OhIbxutIdK3T7CYrlf3md+BbgMHybFInNMDEcnh0fztxzpsOuvTqVAisCnBjY3 us0I0l5iazHqcBwTQcrlldQlYPOE8iOJANRPE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=pIOIs2+sOVESDHWHHlmio2UM9J5W6LX9zYhfZEgLaur/qGggAfa9tuxpVsyS+E0+LI J9LT/iZc/pN2rVSNNAVfiA28EyWaO/Er/PnWSnkhTRSzmaSVXkwTti4dqT8hUGOLcuRU txA1QolfdzT4lvnMi3DB9xjx9WLnv4LvSnhXM= Received: by 10.142.225.11 with SMTP id x11mr5621501wfg.101.1225483951495; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.144.17 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <235b80000810311312u46dc0979ndf7d4dc0687095fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:31 +0200 From: "tethys ocean" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: pyhton apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:32:56 -0000 Hi all I have a problem, a freebsd box that is apache22 and python25-2.5.2_3, mod_python-3.3.1_2 after upgrading phyton web site has stoped with this error "Internal Server Error" in http-errorlog[Thu Oct 30 22:26:46 2008] [error] [client 65.54.112.34] File does not exist: /home/aleni/www-home/static/robots.txt [Thu Oct 30 23:03:28 2008] [error] [client 38.87.44.102] File does not exist: /home/aleni/www.tmp/static/robots.txt [Thu Oct 30 23:08:57 2008] [error] [client 85.75.231.172] File does not exist: /home/aleni/www-home/static/robots.txt [Fri Oct 31 01:26:52 2008] [error] [client 212.36.146.10] File does not exist: /home/aleni/www-home/static/robots.txt [Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) ` aleni.net' does NOT match server name!? [Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [warn] Init: SSL server IP/port conflict: www.aleni.net:443 (/usr/local/etc/apache22/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf:105) vs. static.aleni.net:443 (/usr/local/etc/apache22/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf:154) [Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [warn] Init: You should not use name-based virtual hosts in conjunction with SSL!! *[Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [notice] mod_python: Creating 0 session mutexes based on 256 max processes and 0 max threads.* *[Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [notice] mod_python: using mutex_directory /tmp * [Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ... [Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [notice] Digest: done [Fri Oct 31 05:05:16 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.7e-p1 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.4.4 PHP/5.2.4 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations [Fri Oct 31 10:06:21 2008] [error] [client 195.217.151.57] client sent HTTP/1.1 request without hostname (see RFC2616 section 14.23): /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:) when check apache config file * LoadModule python_module libexec/apache22/mod_python.so LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache22/libphp5.so PythonOption mod_python.mutex_directory "/tmp" PythonOption mod_python.mutex_locks 0 * and also in http_vhost.conf SetHandler mod_python PythonInterpreter main_interpreter PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend PythonOption TracEnv /home/aleni/www/ PythonOption TracUriRoot / i cant normalize server and open to web page if any help (solution) appreciate -- Share now a pigeon's flight Bluebound along the ancient skies, Its women forever hair and mammal, A Mediterranean town may arise If you rip apart a pigeon's heart. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 20:33:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7FE1065692 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-136.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-136.bluehost.com [67.222.39.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B93F8FC23 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24705 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 2008 20:33:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2008 20:33:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=MX8OUHelIcSAUBQlpKechYN6JbBQJww92Tsn9OYqukBuUvt4BjJ4Qv+hVZl+d6wfeDCm9kdIqQpyZrOBkInBg5u/rfzywuedRmVmE2xDGeiBwDXBRXikCaRM2fKDJd3B; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kw0gX-0004YS-Pd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:33:33 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:24:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:24:50 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081031202450.GC4905@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <580480006E6C4B4699FE89EBF5E38145@desktop2002> <20081031173310.GA2259@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031173310.GA2259@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: about vi editor and turkish char X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:33:35 -0000 --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 06:33:10PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 06:31:02PM +0200, Yavuz Maslak es= cribi=F3: > >=20 > > I use Freebsd7.0. > > I am not able to use turkish char while I edit a file with vi editor. > >=20 > > How can I correct that ?=20 >=20 > You could use a 'xterm' with UTF-8 support, a correct LANG environment, > for example LANG=3Des_ES.UTF-8, and the editor 'vim' (from the > ports); to enter UTF-8 chars which are not on your keyboard you could > use, for example, KDE's application KCharSelect =2E . . or you could use another terminal emulator that supports Unicode, such as rxvt-unicode. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkLaZIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWVFACfSGltNsqG5hP1ES+S9PjnGzaj 07UAn1TNTAOYGwCKowqYe/gcaivpNQ/I =xgJv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O3RTKUHj+75w1tg5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 20:43:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9651065676 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-154.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-154.bluehost.com [67.222.39.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D9C38FC29 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 2597 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 2008 20:43:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2008 20:43:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Hw2FcwUuHQHwtaGKufhR4piynkmD77cxP8lEC+IBWtNQOxtjR2tYWbm7wGptcGzAB7N9eLyP9+jNmiQkvxN5Y2KC43cH4oTCCKno+zDWawq+eSn22/msSPKETuYugPSH; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kw0qJ-0007GV-5r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:43:39 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:34:56 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:34:56 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081031203456.GD4905@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490ADAA1.6000108@bokey.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490ADAA1.6000108@bokey.mine.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:43:41 -0000 --u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:44:57PM +1030, en0f wrote: > Redd Vinylene wrote: > > Hello guys, > >=20 > > It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a > > tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something > > UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? > > Alright, much obliged, thanks. > >=20 >=20 > * hold it right there buddy. > + >=20 > * that scruffy beard... those suspenders... that smug expression... > + >=20 > * you're one of those condescending unix computer users! > + here's a nickel, kid. get yourself a better computer. Isn't that the script of a Dilbert strip? Maybe, for shirt purposes, just distill that down to its essence: "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer." It could also be modified a bit: "Here's a nickel, kid. Blank CDs are cheap. Get yourself a better operating system." =2E . . maybe with a Windows logo crossed out, or with a FreeBSD logo, or something like that. Of course, one of my favorite one-liners is one I made up: "Power corrupts. The command line corrupts absolutely." =2E . . or, altneratively: "Power corrupts. Unix corrupts absolutely." --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people have stopped banging their heads against?" --u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkLa/AACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWiTQCdH2/zAltnaMZIx4BxZfHWfsS6 ENIAn2lNC10ciNGDGWy+CKv2ERPA49j0 =zXJa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u65IjBhB3TIa72Vp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 20:56:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EB01065676 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDEE8FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-DS4 ([65.55.131.31]) by bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:56:54 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.243.66.105] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Sean Cavanaugh" In-Reply-To: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> <490B4F6E.8060505@telia.com> To: X-Unsent: 1 References: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> <490B4F6E.8060505@telia.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:56:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2008 20:56:54.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[3459A670:01C93B9B] Cc: raggen@raggens.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CUPS wont print inside GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:56:54 -0000 --TRUNCATED-- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: >> 270.8.5/1757 - Release Date: 2008-10-30 14:35 >> > > Hi again Sean, > > Add the lines, make reinstall and see if Gnome picks it up.. > > There's an excellent site at > http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/ that has CUPS related > information. > > Please let the list know if it helps! > > /Roger > I got it fixed, I ran "make rmconfig-recursive" on gutenprint and CUPS and rebuilt them making sure gutenprint was set to use CUPS. this forced some other stuff to work and now it actually has the postscript driver listed for my printer and it fully works in gnome now. never had to touch /etc/make.conf. I find it kind of self defeating for the ports if you HAVE to add stuff to the /etc/make.conf file for it to work without any documentation telling you to do so or not doing it automatically (Like PERL did) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 21:12:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346611065670 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from www.real-net.sk (mail.real-net.sk [212.108.204.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470F8FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EA817D41B1 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:12:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.1 (20080629) at real-net.sk Received: from www.real-net.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.real-net.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X7zGoS-D6X1a for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (unknown [10.200.9.170]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E04917D41BE; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9VLCT6n002444; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: (from johnny64@localhost) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9VLCSIv002442; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) X-Authentication-Warning: georg.localdomain: johnny64 set sender to johnny64@swissjabber.org using -f Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:12:27 +0100 From: "(-K JohnNy" To: Sean Cavanaugh Message-ID: <20081031211227.GC4353@georg.localdomain> References: <490B391E.3010508@telia.com> <490B4F6E.8060505@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CUPS wont print inside GNOME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:12:38 -0000 --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I find it kind of self defeating for the ports if you HAVE to add stuff t= o=20 > the /etc/make.conf file for it to work without any documentation telling = you=20 > to do so or not doing it automatically (Like PERL did)=20 On the other hand, some of us, like myself, find it a bit... Arrogant? ...if some port touches your system config files without asking. And simply printing it on the output at the end of installation isn't enough since it might get lost if an other port is built right after the one printing out the message. I don't know if there is an optimal way... --=20 (-K JohnNy alias Partial Derivative =E2=88=82 [home] http://johnny64.fixinko.sk/ [icq] 338328204 [abandoned] [jabber] JohnNy64@swissjabber.org [skype] JohnNy64-konik [abandoned] --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkLdLoACgkQ11l9uIBrcFQ++gCfTAmoJEM0HQS7WveLx4Jl04g2 dpsAoKd/60rlrwaO61wFsI2V4Qa7IiSb =RAnh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p2kqVDKq5asng8Dg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 21:19:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858EE1065672 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494A98FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED4E16C01FD; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:19:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m9VLJaKn003083; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:19:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:19:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20081031221936.5df24653.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081031202354.GA5768@thought.org> References: <20081031202354.GA5768@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: why does firefox not display icons? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:19:40 -0000 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:57 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Hey guys, > > in trying to get firefox to work with flash-9, i must have done Something > so that now, ff no longer displays, say, the google icons. there is just > a red dot, or the string "[IMAGE]" where a jpg should be. One possibility could be that you accidently switched off "show images" in some preference dialog. Maybe you could check this? Allthough Firefox is not my primary browser (which is Opera), I think there is some setting that prevents images from bein loaded. Instead, the alt or longdesc attribute of the tag is shown, or, in case that an image has been referenced that does not exist, a red dot or X is shown. At least, that how your situation looks to me... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 21:29:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329D3106567D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54F88FC17 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kw1YY-0002aS-Pg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.174.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:22 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:28:32 -0400 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <235b80000810311312u46dc0979ndf7d4dc0687095fb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: pyhton apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:27 -0000 tethys ocean wrote: > Hi all > > I have a problem, a freebsd box that is apache22 and python25-2.5.2_3, > mod_python-3.3.1_2 after upgrading phyton web site has stoped with this > error "Internal Server Error" [snip] > [Fri Oct 31 05:05:15 2008] [notice] Digest: done > [Fri Oct 31 05:05:16 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 > OpenSSL/0.9.7e-p1 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.4.4 PHP/5.2.4 with ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well Apache seems to think it is still using Python 2.4.4. > Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations > [Fri Oct 31 10:06:21 2008] [error] [client 195.217.151.57] client sent > HTTP/1.1 request without hostname (see RFC2616 section 14.23): > /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:) > [snip] I can't be of much help with this as I am not a Python expert by any means, but the first thing that occurs to me is to ask: did you rebuild/reinstall mod_python after you upgraded to python25? If not you might want to try that first. Restart Apache and see if it no longer shows the Python 2.4.4. As far as the Python environment(s), you may want to ensure that all vestiges of the old python24 are truly gone (especially prior to rebuilding mod_python). You may also try and find confirmation somehow whether or not the code that is failing on the web server is even compatible with python25. In such a case either update the failing code or downgrade back to python24. If the server is "production" and you just need it back up fast you may consider returning it to its pre-python25 upgrade condition. Then conduct your python25 experimentation on a non-production test box. Before any major change of this sort I _always_ do backup dumps of my server. So if something goes south I can immediately restore the server to the state it was in prior to mucking it up. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 21:30:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EA2106567A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C25D8FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by mail-gx0-f19.google.com with SMTP id 12so165979gxk.12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:30:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ifd5I4OdLc7A+Y0Pqnps/Ke4I6T5mAUEnap6rOlyuxY=; b=q/iiYVWdK7i/bRSp0KKmzqvLi/gO5tgr/fu0JuNHGgQnts/wjqii8I3H/Ohw+ptWmG vR86oCeAbKN2yAemTwhUvCE5UKjcUxbxXaSvZiMyFyUw9l9Z8RSQXW+hzk2VITGjNRmK vMCOZsPE4hQr0ujihMbD+ESv/3R4WASUmcl28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PUU3YtpYJmGv5zqWPzqPTHsQl+cr6tKjJx9l3EgUeePicyUV6AF/v0Ihjgsbnx2G3L CsfNtrOLjklWtdHIOsx37eu4N8UjJ0+mmL218Eqq1sOdgG7e1pER77lccVpDXTT0RxEv /qYVtnHvHCTLCoMlFPa0Owc1yEY4JZ6ERY9nM= Received: by 10.90.70.6 with SMTP id s6mr10513506aga.48.1225487436570; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.51.19 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19e9a5dc0810311410u1d9a09bfoe81a22a87bab7393@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:10:35 -0200 From: "Gonzalo Nemmi" To: questions@freebsd.org, misc@openbsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:30:51 -0000 On 10/31/08, Redd Vinylene wrote: > Hello guys, > > It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a > tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something > UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? > Alright, much obliged, thanks. Here's one from /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_malloc.c It goes like this: /* * Small malloc(9) memory allocations are allocated from a set of UMA buckets * of various sizes. * * XXX: The comment here used to read "These won't be powers of two for * long." It's possible that a significant amount of wasted memory could be * recovered by tuning the sizes of these buckets. */ struct { int kz_size; char *kz_name; uma_zone_t kz_zone; } kmemzones[] = { {16, "16", NULL}, {32, "32", NULL}, {64, "64", NULL}, {128, "128", NULL}, {256, "256", NULL}, {512, "512", NULL}, {1024, "1024", NULL}, {2048, "2048", NULL}, {4096, "4096", NULL}, Black tshirt, green letters ... -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 22:15:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FE51065673 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3H=d11a0a2d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A09C8FC1A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3H=d11a0a2d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E051648CF for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75768D05A1 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:59:47 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081031215947.16b0999c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <2E2BD59B9AAA4A3B950AC1D6D7549A28@main> References: <20081031032150.ED0AB106573B@hub.freebsd.org> <2E2BD59B9AAA4A3B950AC1D6D7549A28@main> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 (PYUN Yong-Hyeon) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:15:41 -0000 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:18:20 -0000 "Graham Bentley" wrote: > > I'm not sure you suffers from the same problem but there was a > > Tx checksum offload related bug in msk(4) driver and it was fixed > > in HEAD. How about applying the diff in CVS rev 1.33 of if_msk? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c.diff?r1=1.32;r2=1.33;f=h > > Would love to have a crack at this but have never 'applied diffs' > before?! > > I am guessing I look in to the source for the msk module, find line > 2601, add the code in the green box, then remake the module and copy > over the existing one? Assuming you already have the source, select "unified" diff on the above and save it to a file, then cd /usr patch < patchfile where "patchfile" is the saved file, then build as normal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 22:24:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE34106564A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96F9F8FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 99737 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2008 22:24:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=19Q3LSc6aDNwyEUhFvlnNQPhlCTsSWNOwdqveIhadDacu/lg61Lsyi2IHNkyduE5Crz2X7h7EuEIdnIm9O6lU4ICsqOeeqw64wT59scIIFpCm7K64DQdBWHS9g9FhmjH8OjesW/NXV3lvOfO4t9uv/FiN4mNT/miOEIm98Ub6rw=; X-YMail-OSG: HejWt7QVM1mh3pRQIO.4G9WRCOWZvIY_1RKeeOAxGe.tL0xHvlCQgoVRCXgKuKk4Qjsv1FgawHpCracfVRQM6afQOJTPVOE.oz4hTNiT4ti3TkSd8IjJgng7K0NQ7cozkAbp070_UWR2CHzWARVFPrDBGm9fAlky2_HkEAR4Whpa13duB27NGLGNJ7n9dCNpjWSxYZ4QJ3erMw1iDP7qSoOs9XglFclfKWKdiLc- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:24:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Dino Vliet To: mm@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <919218.99649.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:48:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: openacs-5.4.3 on freebsd 6.3 AMD configuration problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:24:58 -0000 Hi I'm a new user of openacs-5.4.3 and want to try it out on my amd64 syste= m running Freebsd 6.3 and having postgresql-server-8.2.9 installed. The por= t installs fine and I have set openacs_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf to ha= ve it start at boot time. The first time configuration does not give the expected results as my brows= er indicates this: OpenACS Installation =20 Installing the OpenACS kernel data model... But nothing happens anymore.=20 The last part of the file=A0 /usr/local/openacs/log/error.log: [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: AOLserver/4.5.= 0 starting [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: security info:= uid=3D1005, euid=3D1005, gid=3D80, egid=3D80 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: max files: FD_= SETSIZE =3D 1024, rl_cur =3D 11095, rl_max =3D 11095 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Warning: nsmain: rl_max > FD_S= ETSIZE [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Error: pidfile: failed to open= pid file '/usr/local/aolserver/log/nspid.openacs': 'Permission denied' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: encoding: loaded: utf-= 8 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: fastpath[openacs]: map= ped GET / [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: fastpath[openacs]: map= ped HEAD / [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: fastpath[openacs]: map= ped POST / [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: adp[openacs]: mapped G= ET /*.adp [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: adp[openacs]: mapped H= EAD /*.adp [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: adp[openacs]: mapped P= OST /*.adp [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nssock.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nslog.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nslog: opened '/usr/lo= cal/openacs/log/openacs.log' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nssha1.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nscache.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nscache module version= 1.5 server: openacs [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nsdb.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nspostgres.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: PostgreSQL loaded. 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How can I solve it? The last file is present on my system: ls -l /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/install= .tcl=20 -rwxrwx---=A0 1 openacs=A0 openacs=A0 4455 Jan 10=A0 2007 /usr/local/openac= s/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/install.tcl And it's contents are: ############## # # Get configuration parameters # ############# install_page_contract [install_mandatory_params] [install_optional_params] # Default all system emails to the administrators email foreach var_name {system_owner admin_owner host_administrator outgoing_send= er new_registrations} { if { [empty_string_p [set $var_name]] } { set $var_name $email } } ############## # # System setting validation # ############# if {$password ne $password_confirmation } { install_return 200 "Passwords Don't Match" " The passwords you've entered don't match. Please try again. " return } ############## # # Install data model # ############# ns_write [install_header 200 ""] if { ![install_good_data_model_p] } { install_do_data_model_install } else { ns_write "Kernel data model already installed." # If kernel is installed it probably means this page has already been r= equested, # let's exit return } ############## # # Install packages # ############# install_do_packages_install if { $username eq "" } { set username $email } if { ![db_string user_exists { select count(*) from parties where email =3D lower(:email) }] } { db_transaction { =20 set user_id [ad_user_new \ $email \ $first_names \ $last_name \ $password \ "" \ "" \ "" \ "t" \ "approved" \ "" \ $username] if { !$user_id } { =09global errorInfo =20 =09install_return 200 "Unable to Create Administrator" " =20 Unable to create the site-wide administrator: =20 
[ns_quotehtml $errorInfo]
=20 Please try again. =20 " return } # stub util_memoize_flush... rename util_memoize_flush util_memoize_flush_saved proc util_memoize_flush {args} {} permission::grant -party_id $user_id -object_id [acs_lookup_magic_objec= t security_context_root] -privilege "admin" # nuke stub=20 rename util_memoize_flush {} rename util_memoize_flush_saved util_memoize_flush } ad_conn -set user_id $user_id } # Now process the application bundle if an install.xml file was found. if { [file exists "[acs_root_dir]/install.xml"] } { set output [apm::process_install_xml "/install.xml" {}] ns_write "

[join $output "

"]

" } ############## # # Load message catalogs # ############# # Doing this before restart so that keys are available in init files on sta= rtup ns_write "

Loading message catalogs..." lang::catalog::import -initialize ns_write "

Done.

" ############## # # Secret tokens # ############# ns_write "

Generating secret tokens..." populate_secret_tokens_db ns_write "

Done.

" ############## # # System settings # ############# set kernel_id [db_string acs_kernel_id_get { select package_id from apm_packages where package_key =3D 'acs-kernel' }] foreach { var param } { system_url SystemURL system_name SystemName publisher_name PublisherName system_owner SystemOwner admin_owner AdminOwner host_administrator HostAdministrator outgoing_sender OutgoingSender } { ad_parameter -set [set $var] -package_id $kernel_id $param } # set the Main Site RestrictToSSL parameter set main_site_id [subsite::main_site_id] ad_parameter -set "acs-admin/*" -package_id $main_site_id RestrictToSSL ad_parameter -set $new_registrations -package_id $main_site_id NewRegistrat= ionEmailAddress # We're done - kill the server (will restart if server is setup properly) ad_schedule_proc -thread t -once t 1 ns_shutdown set post_installation_message \ [parameter::get_from_package_key -package_key acs-bootstrap-installer \ -parameter post_installation_message \ -default ""] ns_write "Installation finished

The server has been shut down. Normally, it should come back up by itse= lf after a minute or so.

If not, please check your server error log, or contact your system admi= nistrator.

" if { $post_installation_message ne "" } { ns_write $post_installation_message } else { ns_write "

When the server is back up you can visit the = site-wide administration pages

" } Thanks in advanced Dino ns_write [install_footer] =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 22:53:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D5D106568A for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0308FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1403530rvf.43 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=ivonaZS6Earmb5hOV5i0md6iD7CuCS5ST8Lz5UuMLJM=; b=cEduozk33N41QSv40tbCFVouTM7OS12v//DHQf/99Rosi56ziTc3YCc2la+idrlgIK TyO/BX8EKMPZHuWgcWdoxkQ1knEDg9VaiFUxLTdWnx5HwUqkC+kxXpWmFzkYtUilINu3 i3pIrAPLiRCw7tB6qU/dgFJXnkeo4vPKDDMlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=NX1mDY0+jk93hGaG6LTx/rYjeOsTSxfpB81/VPaswW1kF2zgLu8WnmYrqdnKym3lOB QdINw6A4HxpWDp7OvFHHLyBIFiuo9PIvZMsP9gXwQi3/QD0EZ5/p0VM+eGEbKERJmdje JLDLfTv9O8a38+BoX165ikEJ1tmA5XFZwdoPs= Received: by 10.140.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr6988791rvg.175.1225493584759; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sniper (75-167-135-224.bois.qwest.net [75.167.135.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm10025831rvb.1.2008.10.31.15.53.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:53:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Falanga To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:52:38 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810311652.38230.af300wsm@gmail.com> Subject: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:53:05 -0000 Hi, My father recently setup a new 7.0-Release system for some web development. I use ssh to login remotely. I've normally not had any trouble configuring authentication through public key encryption using ssh-keygen and such. I have for myself a id_rsa.pub and an id_rsa key pair that I use for this purpose. Normally, I just copy, via scp, the file id_rsa.pub to my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the remote host and the next time I attempt a login all is well. That is, I don't have to enter my password. However, on my Dad's new machine, this isn't the case. I still have to enter the password. Now, I've looked through his /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and nothing in there looks odd, or different, from other remote hosts I do this on. So, I'm embedding a copy/paste of an ssh login session on my father's host using -v -v to ssh: [/usr/home/andy/MCH] -> ssh -v -v malumgat OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110, OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to malumgat [24.59.91.121] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/andy/.ssh/identity type -1 debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----BEGIN' debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-----END' debug1: identity file /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: identity file /home/andy/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110 debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-dss,ssh-rsa debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib@openssh.com,zlib debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-dss debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se,aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib@openssh.com debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib@openssh.com debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5 debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug2: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 132/256 debug2: bits set: 526/1024 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'malumgat' is known and matches the DSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/andy/.ssh/known_hosts:9 debug2: bits set: 494/1024 debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct debug2: kex_derive_keys debug2: set_newkeys: mode 1 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug2: set_newkeys: mode 0 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug2: key: /home/andy/.ssh/identity (0x0) debug2: key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa (0x5308a0) debug2: key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_dsa (0x0) debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /home/andy/.ssh/identity debug1: Offering public key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive debug1: Trying private key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_dsa debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug2: userauth_kbdint debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply debug2: input_userauth_info_req debug2: input_userauth_info_req: num_prompts 1 Password: debug2: input_userauth_info_req debug2: input_userauth_info_req: num_prompts 0 debug1: Authentication succeeded (keyboard-interactive). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug2: channel 0: send open debug1: Entering interactive session. debug2: callback start debug2: client_session2_setup: id 0 debug2: channel 0: request pty-req confirm 0 debug2: channel 0: request shell confirm 0 debug2: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY debug2: callback done debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768 debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072 The only thing I see that differs from this same trace on another machine to which I can use public key encryption is at the point where it shows, "we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply," I see the very next entry is, "Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 277." Apparently, there's something I'm missing in the configuration for sshd on this machine to allow it to support the public keys. What is it? In case it's important, this machine he's running is 7.0-RELEASE. It's not yet been updated. Perhaps I should do this before getting too worked up? Any help is greatly appreciated, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 23:10:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA331065674 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net (pih-relay05.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721A68FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=3bsd.cpcnw.co.uk) by pih-relay05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Kw38P-0000aE-Bh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:10:29 +0000 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:10:26 -0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Graham Bentley" Organization: Custom PC North West Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081031224841.13C581065706@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081031224841.13C581065706@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.60 (FreeBSD) X-Plusnet-Relay: 9c693f62701980ee9722f9c72500c28e Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:10:31 -0000 > select "unified" diff on the above and save it to a file, then > cd /usr > patch < patchfilewhere "patchfile" is the saved file, then build as > normal. 3bsd# patch < if_msk.c.diff Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c 2008/09/25 07:31:45 1.32 |+++ src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c 2008/09/30 04:47:49 1.33 -------------------------- Patching file src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 99. Hunk #2 succeeded at 2708 (offset 107 lines). 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c.rej done Don't like the look of first result? src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c.rej -> *************** *** 99,105 **** */ #include - __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c,v 1.32 2008/09/25 07:31:45 yongari Exp $"); #include #include --- 99,105 ---- */ #include + __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/dev/msk/if_msk.c,v 1.33 2008/09/30 04:47:49 yongari Exp $"); #include #include From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 23:16:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C126D1065692 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546848FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 14189 invoked by uid 1008); 1 Nov 2008 00:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 1 Nov 2008 00:20:08 -0000 Message-ID: <490B91DA.1050606@el.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:16:42 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikel King References: <490676CC.2060101@el.net> <20081028024502.GB37131@icarus.home.lan> <490681C6.3030402@el.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: almost OT os x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:16:44 -0000 > > Kalin, > > Did you add a specific route for the alternative network? I know > this may sound crazy but for whatever reason Macs don't override the > default route automatically. You would think that any attached > ethernet device would be considered a best route to that LAN however I > have had experience otherwise. > i did. with the interface. but that apparently doesn't matter. a few tests with route get were enough to realize that the B network is not really having it's own default route. so i just switched the cards around. now en0 is the external ip and en1 is the 192.168.x.x. and the default route is the one for the B network... it works a desired now.... thanks for the idea.... > Cheers, > Mikel King > CEO, Olivent Technologies > Senior Editor, Daemon News > Columnist, BSD Magazine > 6 Alpine Court > Medford, NY 11763 > http://www.olivent.com > http://www.daemonnews.org > http://www.bsdmag.org > skype: mikel.king > +------------------------------------------+ > How do you spell cooperation? Pessimists use > each other, but optimists help each other. > Collaboration feeds your spirit, while > competition only stokes your ego. You'll > find the best way to get along. > +------------------------------------------+ > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 31 23:50:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDD31065688 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [209.53.238.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94CB8FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@ccstores.com) Received: from [209.53.237.85] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kw3l3-000DI8-5n; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:50:28 -0700 Message-ID: <490B99C1.1020907@ccstores.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:50:25 -0700 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (85) Subject: port versions query X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:50:32 -0000 I tried the 5.1 mysql port, and found that it was a 5.1.26-rc ... RC so I rolled back to 5.0.67 Is there a way to tell in general what version is 'current' for FreeBSD 7? How could I query any given port in general and see which version it would install? -- Jim Pazarena fquest@ccstores.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 00:15:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0C0106564A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3I=36d1e2c7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4F38FC13 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3I=36d1e2c7@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675F81648D0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C166ED0A8B for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:00:19 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081101000019.7de0a113@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <490B99C1.1020907@ccstores.com> References: <490B99C1.1020907@ccstores.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: port versions query X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:15:40 -0000 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:50:25 -0700 Jim Pazarena wrote: > I tried the 5.1 mysql port, and found that it was a 5.1.26-rc ... RC > > so I rolled back to 5.0.67 > > Is there a way to tell in general what version is 'current' for > FreeBSD 7? There's only one port tree, so it doesn't matter that it's FreeBSD 7 > How could I query any given port in general and see which > version it would install? 'make -V PKGNAME' will do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 00:56:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AC51065672 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3850A8FC1A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so1199272rne.12 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=LGCqW7BCDhY3TbgcrrG2vwdOs0jEPCqOksMdECcfBH0=; b=U9tL0VJf5b+Sznwz4JzhR/zfUZ/9lct1LZRcQ6fSRKeeVDJ53LR34DGuGVtQliNeeM JhTf8X7Dq3fq81d7XWDtKwxIou5aWg+hr/AeHE+EyoRpjPz5GTiU7L//yf5Xw9adJHHP y1iFZFFZDWIPzvvM7xkKwTiyoCb/KpAqSUHCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=LN4gOWshix/5oGGLdMtNn7crDjZCx2O/IkUrMEq7ZpQlJkB83nGGmUxO8SA+MW+LKe VOhDeFIp6sTaf752QRCinDO74CJbIfOhwx9YSp7Jg49HlAH71+dS+RE3QBsPj1lW1nJ2 qQkC2UCQpvkYb4LG/nI/t+x25Jv/Mku1UzW/4= Received: by 10.150.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr21714134ybz.210.1225500993367; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.142.19 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:56:33 -0400 From: "Michael P. Soulier" Sender: msoulier@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7b09fcc7cc1922b4 Subject: crons and syslogd not running X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:56:34 -0000 Hi, I upgraded from 5.5 to 6.3, and I've noticed that many of my cronjobs defined in /etc/crontab don't seem to be running anymore. I have nightly jobs that obviously aren't running, and /var/log/cron makes no mention of them. Looking for logs, I found syslogd down, although cron was up. Any idea of where I should look? Stability problems in syslogd? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 01:44:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35518106567B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 01:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFA98FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 01:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so783099tid.3 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:44:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:x-face:x-attribution:x-os-kernel:x-os-version :x-os-architecture:x-uptime:x-url:x-mail-morse:x-openpgp-fingerprint :x-openpgp-id:face:organization:user-agent:sender; bh=0/jIGzml1nyAygrIsLE8MyQ9EbRJnfFjyVRpOhZmz+I=; b=lAPtpTKyjI4CBzjxbiIuWkCwYMuMLe3N7NdOiOlQgy5G2otk3/59rvVP2kba88/o9z ZxabQ89+d2rWgabHywa9WuLe9J5+EyyW/It9IQKhgq3x+G2tErtMrJFKRBGHdcxZkmIC /5Vbtul3vkoDnPDiD1GxeoZ1w4ToEKZMXnx0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-face:x-attribution :x-os-kernel:x-os-version:x-os-architecture:x-uptime:x-url :x-mail-morse:x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-openpgp-id:face:organization :user-agent:sender; b=vGIBJnulQYiLactnYjdraPqVq2oNX7zP0Xsb6NuDkPq7CKRebDnc9YuRE5gXtDtD+E dv8GCLCLPBjpjf0tYoqYHs5LSBsxNU2oTV9/7/PnZKpVxygWE16T7S/9/wG0u9AT5BUa HO4cTRO5nSuacHoVfu43JZKmB2Qc43ryhKPeQ= Received: by 10.110.109.19 with SMTP id h19mr8949387tic.14.1225503896550; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chateau.d.lf ([122.162.54.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm7318970tif.0.2008.10.31.18.44.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:16:00 +0530 From: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksg==?= Ashish Shukla To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081101014600.GA37453@chateau.d.lf> References: <200810311652.38230.af300wsm@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810311652.38230.af300wsm@gmail.com> X-Face: )vGQ9yK7Y$Flebu1C>(B\gYBm)[$zfKM+p&TT[[JWl6:]S>cc$%-z7-`46Zf0B*syL.C ]oCq[upTG~zuS0.$"_%)|Q@$hA=9{3l{%u^h3jJ^Zl;t7 X-Attribution: =?utf-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3?= X-OS-Kernel: FreeBSD X-OS-Version: 7.0-RELEASE-p5 X-OS-Architecture: amd64 X-Uptime: 6:58AM up 17 mins, 1 user, load averages: 1.24, 1.20, 0.84 X-URL: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ X-Mail-Morse: .-- .- .... .--- .- ...- .- .--.-. --. -- .- .. .-.. .-.-.- -.-. --- -- X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: 1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74 X-OpenPGP-ID: 762E5E74 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEWpqambm5uHh4d7e3 ttbW1jY2Pe3t4dHR28vLygoKCenp6SkpJOTk7////9/f35+flcgqXsAAACiUlEQVQ4jX XTz0sUURwA8NlOrkS5ZqIzUO6sCTaBMKuYrVCsM7cgyJ066EUMC5KVgnoEHlY7uJTYbn loBilH6TBvL40a5goZqexl/gWHjl72O+hh8dJub1ydH5t9L4/5fvjOe9/H+1J7/wnqZD UBKnYAQNEHYJWeUPLHsUq5BqzSeWTHnQk/QGlhctKw42fZC6Y1jgxDkiTDKHQBeKBUsN N2FJ6Xi0UXDo1dSagCugIeGCd5Esfw0gXT6pGkhC0JaRhN/nH2MI92SH4lygtiYhihid MK0zyMsTqm6jNrIqlAPxyA8TjGmbp06pwgigV0zwFr5heNM+l0OiiIkg/Wh6pArZLdCx 7oHcJVUMjxjC4HKndjWhXkb6TPLbeiJxxSMoGvqSA9Lw6yVx04QGFlyb5zGc8LGysdDu yjF9o6Qr1IUZeHci0N7q+mHza81tmNL3p26daHVJvb4Myrtjc0GsnjrKq/D9x0r+Txs7 5gDgUWZczk2bcP3IpHnJ4JyhRFyY3hzqduHzCbyNalyGVR2VWe3066sMDRVch18/x3cE +13IkpAqn6iBDbfOcCTF2nszLZIxARoh3gwt5IH8PkNTmY3eyO3va8Kzjgd+IaxgoOtf dveWG/J65jEprafu2TB8ySOJCnbWGiaxe8T7RyY3BAVwg08pfmvGA1FXZ3WzFWV7kmH8 Aoy3YeF+Qv+8D8neAUTWMiHG5M+sfgvoJVJsLroRbffABM6yEmEuVa6c++iTJhlGcjAk erarJmBg/JU+dJk83Fk4QznFPdA2HS+lwtQOVIitE4l6wFMrfDcVpZLP8De1b/dp5uhj NgdlvXLp7mvXDUHm4tnwFQGRubcPIeINMAYDpffwFxLwHEb6QJ2wAAAABJRU5ErkJggg == Organization: /\/0/\/3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksiBBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xh?= Subject: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:44:58 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In <200810311652.38230.af300wsm@gmail.com>, Andrew Falanga wrote: >Hi, > >My father recently setup a new 7.0-Release system for some web development= =2E I=20 >use ssh to login remotely. I've normally not had any trouble configuring= =20 >authentication through public key encryption using ssh-keygen and such. I= =20 >have for myself a id_rsa.pub and an id_rsa key pair that I use for this=20 >purpose. > >Normally, I just copy, via scp, the file id_rsa.pub to my=20 >~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the remote host and the next time I attempt= a=20 >login all is well. That is, I don't have to enter my password. However, = on=20 >my Dad's new machine, this isn't the case. I still have to enter the=20 >password. > >Now, I've looked through his /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and nothing in ther= e=20 >looks odd, or different, from other remote hosts I do this on. So, I'm=20 >embedding a copy/paste of an ssh login session on my father's host=20 >using -v -v to ssh: > >[/usr/home/andy/MCH] >-> ssh -v -v malumgat [...] >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive >debug1: Next authentication method: publickey >debug1: Trying private key: /home/andy/.ssh/identity >debug1: Offering public key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa >debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive It seems OpenSSH (on your dad's box) hasn't recognized your private key, so= how=20 about checking permissions of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and ~/.ssh on his box.= Or=20 how about enabling verbose logging on his box, using 'LogLevel' parameter i= n=20 sshd_config. HTH Ashish Shukla --=20 =C2=B7-- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7--- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2= =B7- =C2=B7- =C2=B7--=C2=B7-=C2=B7 --=C2=B7 -- =C2=B7- =C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7-= =C2=B7=C2=B7 =C2=B7-=C2=B7-=C2=B7- -=C2=B7-=C2=B7 --- -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkLtNcACgkQHy+EEHYuXnTAfwCgh975KgoRa22DXvtP8uZ/A6mi Dn0An03pUMCw41FfdcPebh3uN4/IJbuu =eTz5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 02:08:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B221106568B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002B88FC18 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 02:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZTNF1a01k0EZKEL59e80iy; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:08:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ze7x1a0042P6wsM3Me7xFs; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:07:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=0vTpi-7yqJd5uVFssW0A:9 a=zrON_DtxeKDrSyftT9uhHpxI1tMA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C7841C9419; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:07:56 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: "Michael P. Soulier" Message-ID: <20081101020756.GA46968@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: crons and syslogd not running X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:08:02 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:56:33PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > I upgraded from 5.5 to 6.3, and I've noticed that many of my cronjobs defined > in /etc/crontab don't seem to be running anymore. I have nightly jobs that > obviously aren't running, and /var/log/cron makes no mention of them. > > Looking for logs, I found syslogd down, although cron was up. > > Any idea of where I should look? Stability problems in syslogd? "dmesg" might show something like syslogd crashing or segfaulting for some reason. And no, I've never experienced any stability problems with syslogd on FreeBSD (any version; 2.2.8 through 7.1). Otherwise, I'd say the upgrade may have gone awry at one particular stage of your upgrade. If the problem doesn't recur, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Upgrading between major versions always seems to have quirks/risks. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 04:02:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8092D106564A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 04:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shilp.kamal@yahoo.com) Received: from n9.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n9.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.86.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 407C98FC1C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 04:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shilp.kamal@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.194.244] by n9.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2008 03:49:52 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.250] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2008 03:49:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp411.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2008 03:49:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 694331.59760.bm@omp411.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10817 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2008 03:49:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=AXDTMnB0/25uwRDpT13BMIpYoYNgX/EE5xdfL0dgbYCNu2EMboA8TVQ+xMARoXcOtMyHbVi1cwbbJ7o1GkpmJ7jlRY2r+bfe1jD7h2lxcW4mVtzjjM1+66u8k2i10HascQ9kxpv8kh9sGoVtjCSTTujOjpZ3VDae0bsaDXV198o=; X-YMail-OSG: 4D2ZdKsVM1m1hL2h.ETTT1TT3D9K5wyFTWtWtIMypTjamYdc0a.epxthKvju5I1q4tCGu6udjyGqDGsmKGav0j4y6k1fQr5ykiI5kFOED8sVEBvR7HiF.Ryt5pwOoPqWd3.I_w-- Received: from [76.197.8.104] by web45409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:49:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:49:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Kamlesh Patel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <112320.5017.qm@web45409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:31:51 +0000 Subject: Virtual Memory Improvement Algorithm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shilp.kamal@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:02:37 -0000 Hi Friends, My name is Kamlesh and i am new to this group. Could any one help me in Virtual Memory free space management: Splay tree to Radix tree? Thanks Kamlesh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 07:12:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C411065673 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5318FC1E for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-67-188-126-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.126.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA17DkUR039045 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:12:25 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:12:27 -0000 I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch. I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. Anyone can use it without major annoyances? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 07:38:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E209106567C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B44F8FC17 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA17cTEv096855; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:38:06 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20081101073806.GA25486@thought.org> References: <20081031202354.GA5768@thought.org> <20081031221936.5df24653.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081031221936.5df24653.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: why does firefox not display icons? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:38:48 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:19:36PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:23:57 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > in trying to get firefox to work with flash-9, i must have done Something > > so that now, ff no longer displays, say, the google icons. there is just > > a red dot, or the string "[IMAGE]" where a jpg should be. > > One possibility could be that you accidently switched off > "show images" in some preference dialog. Maybe you could > check this? I've checked this N times and have "Load images automagically" checkmarked. Can any firefox [not ff3] user 2-check to see if there is some image-loader that I missed? thanks anyway, Polyt. gary > > Allthough Firefox is not my primary browser (which is Opera), > I think there is some setting that prevents images from bein > loaded. Instead, the alt or longdesc attribute of the > tag is shown, or, in case that an image has been referenced > that does not exist, a red dot or X is shown. > > At least, that how your situation looks to me... > > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 07:49:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39529106564A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE36D8FC1B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA17o0pb096922; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 00:49:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Yuri Message-ID: <20081101074936.GB25486@thought.org> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:49:41 -0000 On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:12:25AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when > I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch. > I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. > > Anyone can use it without major annoyances? > > Yuri Well, I can answer you in the negative. So far release or vers 4 is missing things. The clock->calendar for one minor thing. And KSayIt is minus its config dialog that lets you set Speaks, select Jobs, and so on. .... gary > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 11:59:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3868A1065689 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.114.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE888FC13 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BC81C004A; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:58:40 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08440-05; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:58:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [61.149.141.201]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285671C0029; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:58:39 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <490C44A6.5070808@realss.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:59:34 +0800 From: Zhang Weiwu Organization: Real Softservice User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080621) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <48F24060.9030900@realss.com> <4909C9A2.90806@realss.com> <3a142e750810301726o6bb52c3eyb857ca1e8ce27c89@mail.gmail.com> <490A80F1.2020301@realss.com> <3a142e750810310253qf1177ffscd22a38804221fcf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750810310253qf1177ffscd22a38804221fcf@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fail with wireless network configuration with "SIOCS80211: Invalid argument" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:59:38 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > > send output of: > # ifconfig -v wi0 > Hi. Thanks for trying to help. I fixed the problem myself (and demonstrated I couldn't do a prudent thinking). The mistake is trying to use shared key in an open-systems wireless network. I managed to get it right by having authomode open after managed to learn the difference of shared and open authmode and how to tell the mode of local network. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 12:04:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5BE1065672 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from mine.nu (60-242-68-238.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.68.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E818FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from en0f@bokey.mine.nu) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (windows [192.168.1.110]) by mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CEE9DEB926 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:34:33 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <490C45DD.1020501@bokey.mine.nu> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:34:45 +1030 From: en0f User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490ADAA1.6000108@bokey.mine.nu> <20081031203456.GD4905@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20081031203456.GD4905@kokopelli.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: en0f@bokey.mine.nu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:04:47 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 08:44:57PM +1030, en0f wrote: >> Redd Vinylene wrote: >>> Hello guys, >>> >>> It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a >>> tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something >>> UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? >>> Alright, much obliged, thanks. >>> >> * hold it right there buddy. >> + >> >> * that scruffy beard... those suspenders... that smug expression... >> + >> >> * you're one of those condescending unix computer users! >> + here's a nickel, kid. get yourself a better computer. > > Isn't that the script of a Dilbert strip? Yeah. Its also the cover of APUE by Stevens & Rago if you're curious. However, AFAIK the actual credit goes to S. Adams. > Maybe, for shirt purposes, just distill that down to its essence: > > "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer." Yeah that was my thought as well. :P) > It could also be modified a bit: > > "Here's a nickel, kid. Blank CDs are cheap. Get yourself a better > operating system." LMAO. This ones nice as well. > "Power corrupts. The command line corrupts absolutely." > > . . . or, altneratively: > > "Power corrupts. Unix corrupts absolutely." Both are nice. Cracked me up. Heres another one by Scott - "If you have trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done." -Scott Adams -- en0f From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 12:38:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B98106567F for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164108FC3B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1603332rvf.43 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; 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Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C672C8FC1E for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Nov 2008 14:05:00 -0000 Received: from c155164.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [213.39.155.164]) [213.39.155.164] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 01 Nov 2008 15:05:00 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+iDNIWW0qiRP4UlIHCG2H6ELn8Z9gHXMqw5+ZLYP cDsDV0EKXMxwDp Message-ID: <490C621A.4040300@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:05:14 +0100 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.79 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:05:02 -0000 Yuri wrote: > I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created > when I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch. > I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. > > Anyone can use it without major annoyances? > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Missing kde4 in current, found it only in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.1-release/All/kde4-4.1.1.tbz OTRS 2.3.3 is out, but in OTRS 2.3.2 some perlmodules will not be installed, i think (Text/CSV.pm is missing). Mailscanner devel is at version 4.72.2, in ports its develversion 4.60.5_3. Perl is at 5.10, in ports is version 5.8.8, which run good. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 15:34:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1781065687 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28FB8FC08 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA1FYdeR010520; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:34:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA1FYcTG010517; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:34:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:34:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:34:48 -0000 > I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I > first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch. > I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. > > Anyone can use it without major annoyances? the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?" the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze. If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista. For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 15:49:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B898B1065674 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 674B68FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83287 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2008 15:49:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=NTgPZOIk3C8jo9NSlBK2gS8aBZWL9DQ7cZKhEOy9lwtgCFfOqHj2Irz7mJiCJhKWhO2/jnEdGsVQ6Qt5Y1D0D9uXZ1OIrPlGcYokmcwnQ3G0ubFYMipxEfFJUVd3ddtnohz9Vr7MFbhKsxwpU2YmJFKGrZW9gCKeSzzlvjnomKw=; X-YMail-OSG: SRlLr4QVM1kF.aRGWsgOX9anED91IFcb1eUQKXvpG1sqmXI4oJA._BbIXoUcKQuj_Un9BfbSbM2ONfW8cifDEmb3F6WQtg8CPOQq.WX9FSw8apkMNYvSK6fdXnD6kU8n9sWcxlm8hBW9OfJaUM79DtoQxlVzTDAZbMQbrI1Tm5abn5iT.yUUfqVrIunBQQ-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:49:09 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:49:09 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <901166.83096.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:49:10 -0000 --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > From: Wojciech Puchar > Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? > To: "Yuri" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 11:34 AM > > I tried using it but Desktop view window that was > initially created when I first launched kde4 doesn't > appear with the second launch. > > I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. > > > > Anyone can use it without major annoyances? > > the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any > OS?" > the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze. > > If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista. > > For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice. I rather like KDE4. I don't find that it's like Windows at all, given that Windows is an operating system and KDE4 is a development framework, application suite, and window manager. There're hefty differences there, not the least of which being that KDE4 isn't an operating system kernel. In general, I've found it to be well-maintained (some of the window managers I've used in the past went defunct when the 1-2 developers actively working on them got bored or whatever), nicely designed, attractive appearance-wise, and easy to configure. Let's face it, spending a whole bunch of hours over the course of a few weeks writing a perfect afterstep config was really cool when I was a young'un and didn't have a life to worry about, but nowadays I just want to get on with what needs doing. KDE allows me to accomplish just that, efficiently, and without leaving me unable to toggle/modify/configure certain things as GNOME does. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 16:04:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5392B1065672 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (mail.oclc.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B270B8FC17 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27859; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:56:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-62-216-214-209.dynamic.mnet-online.de(62.216.214.209) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma027733; Sat, 1 Nov 08 16:55:36 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA1G4GSa014473; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:04:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:04:15 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: Yuri , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:04:57 -0000 El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 04:34:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar escribió: > >I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I > >first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch. > >I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet. > > > >Anyone can use it without major annoyances? > > the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?" > the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze. > > If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista. > > For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice. I disagree concerning "KDE && windoze"; I'm using KDE 3.5.8 and it is a very good and stable desktop, even for kernel folks and hackers; I run it with FreeBSD 7.0R on my daily work laptop; In August I've ported in a test machine from the ports KDE 4.1.0 and it was to unstable for daily usage, at least at this time; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 16:17:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7D31065670 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130CE8FC12 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1743731wfg.7 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JTi9ON1ZzJi68Qd2uHiiKiXRQ6iRkPLx1J4Z/oRwTdY=; b=YJARKmsFsD/evAy7+i8+l/fALhu9KgLpxrvEVkdYabWxmJnFacIiaqwfu4qzWmzevU deXHPuvHfQ+9YnFiGp0b4PAV3d0IUzMMxfBN83L6EqQl3QTJ1zgFzPqYE8AYzds4ZY5e So2v1Yn2yWp2CZPwscPMIk3IFg7RxqY3ASIJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bTLUxP58xLFqiTsFHX6x04KHPjeNexxBSQU9Z/Jsz0zThbeASASUa595vh/L8KrJQO RIjeKGNJ0IDDGUHfP6Xx7/0UAAarKGqSGVuGiv7zNE/i6SH7NHTo8tTTKv7orw+fmeTL fkiDPM6+G0N0xinIsRcXZqtiYakw+6FOfnk28= Received: by 10.142.191.10 with SMTP id o10mr6123043wff.163.1225556221736; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.100.18 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <27ade5280811010917x14781304q1860f819ed4fb977@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:17:01 -0400 From: APseudoUtopia To: "Jim Pazarena" In-Reply-To: <490B99C1.1020907@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <490B99C1.1020907@ccstores.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port versions query X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:17:02 -0000 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote: > > I tried the 5.1 mysql port, and found that it was a 5.1.26-rc ... RC > > so I rolled back to 5.0.67 > > Is there a way to tell in general what version is 'current' for FreeBSD 7? > How could I query any given port in general and see which version it would install? > -- > Jim Pazarena fquest@ccstores.com You could view the ports tree online at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ If you read the Makefile, changelog, and/or description, it'll tell you which version it is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 16:47:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9AF1065691 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E348FC16 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA1GlniF011071; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:47:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA1Gll0A011068; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:47:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:47:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Yuri , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:47:57 -0000 it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look. that's why i compare it to windoze. and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc. all of them does exactly what's needed. windows management and menu. what else do you need to WORK? i mean work, not showing up to your friends. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 16:58:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793081065670 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158B08FC1C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2008 16:58:06 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 19CA15D33; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:57:17 +0000 (GMT) To: Wojciech Puchar References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Solemnity: All Saints, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:57:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Sat\, 1 Nov 2008 17\:47\:47 +0100 \(CET\)") Message-ID: <86bpwzs7te.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:58:08 -0000 Wojciech Puchar writes: > it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good > look. that's why i compare it to windoze. > > and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? > > just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc. > > all of them does exactly what's needed. windows management and menu. > > what else do you need to WORK? i mean work, not showing up to your > friends. O reason not the need! Our basest beggars Are in the poorest thing superfluous. Allow not nature more than nature needs, Man's life is as cheap as beast's. Thou art a lady: If only to go warm were gorgeous, Why, nature needs not what thou gorgeous wear'st, Which scarcely keeps thee warm. But, for true need-- You heavens, give me that patience, patience I need. You see me here, you gods, a poor old man, As full of grief as age, wretched in both. If it be you that stirs these daughters' hearts Against their father, fool me not so much To bear it tamely; touch me with noble anger, And let not women's weapons, water drops, Stain my man's cheeks. No, you unnatural hags! I will have such revenges on you both That all the world shall--I will do such things-- What they are, yet I know not; but they shall be The terrors of the earth. You think I'll weep. No, I'll not weep. I have full cause of weeping, but this heart Shall break into a hundred thousand flaws, Or ere I'll weep. O Fool, I shall go mad! (Lear to his daughters Goneril and Regan, "King Lear," Act 2, Scene 4, lines 263-285) Sorry - couldn' resist! atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 17:36:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CED106564A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21AA8FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd6ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.163]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2008 11:07:49 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=xMikKtTSfBWNDR9KtvoA:9 a=0Ziv54OmSXpqM4Cqay8UPP_0UWsA:4 a=m7mIpHkmwYMA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd6ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2008 11:07:49 -0600 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE7D1701E for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:07:47 -0700 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081101100747.479dbdf3@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <86bpwzs7te.fsf@nowhere.org> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <86bpwzs7te.fsf@nowhere.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:36:15 -0000 On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:57:17 +0000 Glyn Millington wrote: > (Lear to his daughters Goneril and Regan, > "King Lear," Act 2, Scene 4, lines 263-285) > glyn, it is evident from lines 283-285 that lear used windoze. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 17:44:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BAF1065672 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E547C8FC12 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-67-188-126-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.126.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA1HjN7X078392 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:43:56 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:44:00 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look. > that's why i compare it to windoze. > > and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users. Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. I don't want to deal command lines/config files for mundane things like finding and setting up wireless networks, playing CDs/DVDs, etc. GUI integrated with desktop would make this much less time consuming. > > just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc. > not really enough. Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to GUI and desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested development-stage software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 18:09:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC2D1065697 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB0F8FC2F for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA1I8sJe011581; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:08:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA1I8qBC011578; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:08:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:08:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20081101190520.Y11557@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:09:03 -0000 >> and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? > > You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users. why you want unix be adopted by simple users? they already have windows - perfect for them, and exactly what they deserve > Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these "advanced" users you say don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few minutes. > Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to GUI and > desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested development-stage > software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. they try to compete with windoze - so they behave the same way! who first learned that giving unfinished/buggy/incomplete software to users is a good (in marketing point of view) thing? Microsoft! they learn from it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 19:37:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF7D1065676 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CC3D8FC1F for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 92185 invoked by uid 89); 1 Nov 2008 19:37:06 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO desktop2002) (maslak@ihlas.net.tr@213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Nov 2008 19:37:05 -0000 Message-ID: <5D5DA329DBBC4D628B3639AEEE7E8E15@desktop2002> From: "Yavuz Maslak" To: "Matthias Apitz" References: <580480006E6C4B4699FE89EBF5E38145@desktop2002> <20081031173310.GA2259@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:37:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about vi editor and turkish char X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:37:09 -0000 Hello, Where do I have to specify "LANG ... " expression to support any language in VI ? Ok. I have no problem in many editors about that but I wish to learn for vi . > El día Friday, October 31, 2008 a las 06:31:02PM +0200, Yavuz Maslak > escribió: > >> Hello >> >> I use Freebsd7.0. >> I am not able to use turkish char while I edit a file with vi editor. >> >> How can I correct that ? > > Hello, > > You could use a 'xterm' with UTF-8 support, a correct LANG environment, > for example LANG=es_ES.UTF-8, and the editor 'vim' (from the > ports); to enter UTF-8 chars which are not on your keyboard you could > use, for example, KDE's application KCharSelect > > HIH > > matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ > http://www.UnixArea.de/ > b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ > A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open > Windows > Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres > Windows > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 19:45:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDEB1065674 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdp@elvis.rowan.edu) Received: from elvis.rowan.edu (elvis.rowan.edu [150.250.64.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979E68FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdp@elvis.rowan.edu) Received: from elvis.rowan.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elvis.rowan.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA1JOjUP001838 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jdp@localhost) by elvis.rowan.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mA1JOjUh001834 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:24:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Pellegrino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: A netgraph question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:45:35 -0000 I was wondering if this was the correct list to ask a few questions related to netgraph. If not could someone point me to the right one? ---jdp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 19:48:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3820106564A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DCA8FC17 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.127) id 48DC49FD00B06D7C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:27:49 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQ4AGNKDEnVcijOPGdsb2JhbACBdpIUAQEBATUBtCuDUg Received: from c-ce2872d5.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO trapper.homedns.org) ([213.114.40.206]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2008 20:27:48 +0100 Message-ID: <490CADB3.4070902@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:27:47 +0100 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081026) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:48:44 -0000 Yuri wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look. >> that's why i compare it to windoze. >> >> and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? > > You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users. > Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. > I don't want to deal command lines/config files for mundane > things like finding and setting up wireless networks, playing > CDs/DVDs, etc. GUI integrated with desktop would make this > much less time consuming. If I need to (re)configure the behaviour of som app or part of the system, I edit the appropriate config file, which takes about a minute or two... If a user of some fancy desktop with lots of whistles and bells wants to do the same, he/she has to browse through an extensive hierarchy of categories and subcategories to get to the setting he/she wants to change. That hierarchy is more than often far from intuitive, so that very same task may take ten minutes or more. In what way is the latter easier than the first? I see none... >> >> just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc. >> > not really enough. > > Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to GUI and > desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested > development-stage > software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Sincerly, Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 20:09:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED107106567D for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B66A8FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 86446 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2008 20:09:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=oj85KSHqUx5VxqnDufYkPtvrAVFdUpkkQZXlg0Q8Tk7Q06OIO9m/igYbXLhLEfouncBlAI1e9nxkGW4B2btzm91kben7hRN5Ui6X8Rv2U1fJUYXLhJFP437NUviOVqR8+L3Xdlwcws1t5VHCMx3rbFhhH2vnMPnumMXyLnKrglQ=; X-YMail-OSG: YecZCLAVM1mA4.e1kmygYrucIHs6WV9t0qvPnhBc.kCL4i8t4FF9bYnqzUzghCEf5lN6eq197wGDEAm_Xoiwvb0VYjQWZ4Z5jh2E9zY7ZvtxMmqG4Uzv3MkYYafqdBlKaINwuN8bhtkHW1dWEIrNrnyb2UUVFH729Fgo6qbLF9lb5aBf69C4AWbQVlWJIGjqiXMz.MJiAyZ9H3ahdg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:09:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: Rolf G Nielsen In-Reply-To: <490CADB3.4070902@lazlarlyricon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <120974.86441.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:09:20 -0000 --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > From: Rolf G Nielsen > Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? > To: yuri@rawbw.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 3:27 PM > Yuri wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing > else than a good look. that's why i compare it to > windoze. > >> > >> and why you need "desktop" (whatever it > means) at all? > > > > You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by > simple users. > > Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced > users. > > I don't want to deal command lines/config files > for mundane > > things like finding and setting up wireless networks, > playing > > CDs/DVDs, etc. GUI integrated with desktop would make > this > > much less time consuming. > > If I need to (re)configure the behaviour of som app or part > of the system, I edit the appropriate config file, which > takes about a minute or two... Unless you've never modified the configs for that app before, in which case you have to learn the configuration format. It also sometimes occurs that these formats and locations and whatnot are changed between released by the developers. Above and beyond that, some apps have good configuration documentation and are a breeze. Others, less so. I'm not advocating a user interface for configuring everything, but for certain things which are inherently extremely complex, such as window manager layout and behavior, it's my opinion that it really is a time-saver. > > If a user of some fancy desktop with lots of whistles and > bells wants to do the same, he/she has to browse through an > extensive hierarchy of categories and subcategories to get > to the setting he/she wants to change. That hierarchy is > more than often far from intuitive, so that very same task > may take ten minutes or more. I find KDE's configuration interface to be intuitive and generally quite sane. GNOME's isn't lacking in that area either, imho, it's just lacking a lot of options that I feel ought to be tunable parameters (most of which are, but require extensive config file hacking...) The simple fact is that I can configure my KDE desktop quicker than someone can, seeking the same granularity of modification, configure something which has no UI for configuration. This isn't too big a deal for me, or you, or likely many of the folks on this list, but for someone who is new to FreeBSD and has never hacked a window manager config file before, it likely is. They'd have to spend quite some time learning the format and locations, and finally doing the tweaking to get what they actually want from their system. Part of the reason a lot of folks use FreeBSD is for its flexibility. One can do a great deal with a FreeBSD system. It doesn't have to be taxing. There's no sense in giving out "hardcore points" to people who expend time and energy doing something that can be done more efficiently through a UI and without the learning curve. > > In what way is the latter easier than the first? I see > none... The fact is that your opinion (and mine, for that matter) are fairly subjective. I've done things both ways - I was using FreeBSD before KDE and GNOME were at all widely used, and if you wanted a decent looking desktop that functioned the way you wanted to be most productive, you had to hack a config file. That said, I just don't see how KDE's configuration system (as this is the topic at hand in this thread) is at all counterintuitive. > > >> > >> just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe > icewm maybe other etc. > >> > > not really enough. > > > > Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure > when it comes to GUI and > > desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. > Untested development-stage > > software (like kde4) is being released to the public > for some reason. I disagree on the failure part. As far as bugs being released, it happens in the closed-source world plenty, too. Consider if you will service packs for MSWindows. As a programmer in the real world, you're going to mess up. You'll make typos. Things that work well on your computers may not work well on other peoples'. Only a limited number of people actively beta test early releases of software. Consider the number of FreeBSD users running HEAD to those running RELENG_? to those running RELENG_?_? or a -RELEASE. Most people don't run HEAD all the time because they want/need a system that is stable and can't spend some number of hours each day or week or month updating their world+kernel from CVS. Yet HEAD is where bugs get introduced and, hopefully!, fixed. As far as KDE4 being untested, I'd send you over to the KDE folks to let them set you straight on that. The short of it is that you're just flat-out wrong. KDE4 runs pretty well. I've come upon two bugs in it. One is nigh-impossible to track down and deal with, but is a minor graphical issue that doesn't get in my way. The other turned out to be an nvidia binary driver bug which is not in any way specific to KDE or even FreeBSD (Linux Compiz users seem to be the largest afflicted community). At the end of the day, when you find bugs in closed-source software, you call the vendor and file a ticket. With open-source software, since you aren't paying anything, you ought to deal with bugs through the community. Bug trackers for KDE exist. So do mailing lists. There's a community there with people - usually unpaid volunteers - who are willing to help debug the software, just as commercial software vendors have paid support staff for such issues. If you don't like free UNIX-like systems, you can buy a nice Sun box and get Solaris support from Sun. In fact, Sun's support has been really good in my vast experience, so I'd even go so far as to recommend this if what you want is that level of support. Even Sun releases bugs sometimes though. This is why they, like those of us in the open-source world, release patches. This whole argument just strikes me as a lot of meaningless complaining in lieu of actually productively trying to identify and fix bugs. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 20:09:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B352C106571B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A968FC2B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (unknown [75.4.162.61]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E05111666; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <490CB776.6010401@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:09:26 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081004) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Sparrevohn References: <49067148.6080307@telus.net> <49082625.7080804@telus.net> <20081029100439.GA73714@icarus.home.lan> <200810311736.09706.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <200810311736.09706.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carl , Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror slice insertion, "FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:09:28 -0000 Thomas Sparrevohn wrote: > The error occured after I had the disk for a couple of days - WHat puzzled me was that the drive > did not do it automatically Hard disks will not map uncorrectable bad sectors on read automatically, as it no longer knows what the contents of that sector should be. In this instance, the sector is usually remapped during a write. Given the symptoms of the problem described above, it looks like this uncorrectable sector is located in a portion of the disk that isn't touched by FreeBSD's newfs or installation procedure, and would never have a chance to be written to and corrected. Then, when the mirror sync occurs (which copies every block verbatim, regardless of whether it's in use or not) it's choking on that sector and locking up the disk, thus freezing the OS. One thing to try prior to RMAing the disk is to fill the entire disk with zeroes (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=131072 or similar) to give its firmware a chance to remap all flakey sectors, and rewrite all ECC information. I do this with every new or freshly acquired disk that's guaranteed to be empty, to ensure that no surprise errors bite me later on, as well as to make sure no previous data hangs around. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 21:09:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDFA106568B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdp@elvis.rowan.edu) Received: from elvis.rowan.edu (elvis.rowan.edu [150.250.64.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402F78FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdp@elvis.rowan.edu) Received: from elvis.rowan.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elvis.rowan.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA1L9u94020800 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jdp@localhost) by elvis.rowan.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mA1L9tlC020796 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:09:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Pellegrino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: A netgraph question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:09:56 -0000 OK so here it goes. I actually have two seperate questions involving netgraph, I am new to this subject so please bare with me. If there is a better way to achieve these goals too, please suggest them but I think netgraph is the way to go. The first part involves allowing a userland program to communicate with a kernel module, similar to how netlink works in Linux. The second part involves intercepting network packets and possibly manipulating them before they are allowed to proceed, similar to how netfilter works. I believe I can do both of these with the netgraph (ng_socket and possibly ng_ether). I haven't looked closely at ng_ether yet so I'll focus on ng_socket. I have been able to create a ng_socket (Control and Data) using the socket call as described in "All About NetGraphs" and the man page. I've also been able to 'name' the node using bind. I was able to verify this using ngctl. I know (from the man page) I should eventually be able to send/receive using the sendto/recvfrom functions once the connection is established. But beyond this I don't know how to proceed. So the question is what are the next steps. For example: Although I see a named netgraph node there are no hooks. ng_socket says it supports an arbitrary number of hooks so how do I create the hooks? Then of course how do I connect them. Of course I realize that I proabably need to create a node on the kernel side so which type of netgraph node would be suggested? How is it created and then hooked to the ng_socket? Again I am looking to allow some IPC between a userland program and a kernel module similar to the Linux netlink. I've been through most man pages and can't seem to find a lot of good documentation or example code so I am hoping to get some pointers here. BTW If this is the wrong list please directly to the right place to ask. Thanks in advance. ---jdp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:11:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCB6106568E for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aluoor@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44FB8FC0A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aluoor@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1485153fgb.35 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:11:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8l3/lJK21ktbuQUGeT1uRuo0tU21FjyNGb+FsZew5hE=; b=lXw3oc/ZVQd4Cuzxyi5UO+CXnOjLzayJR0BOQwI/KnsVB2Ltk1V2gexNO4pDt8Dx/D 3/j9nXdb7z4CcoNDKlkTl4Pi42XRqpPj98f3SSTxxZpvi115gzaDMjGWi0EgVTQrXY8F 08uQ8MjWJtWtejxgMGk98FJqYTrfiONMbp+VM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=E2lP5ElVR7euOQTFbMeMp5d+b9Tr9Gev5HwLkUSdYE8o3OLbKEE6UcbksY5ChSEegm 7fpH7R3Rq4hoZxQlYFaiLgC03z7ziWOkLV5vOUSSADBuVUcusVylVSNrYTKGKHeCdbZM 0opnLJw/qi1q8Z5FTj72YYCknchMUjK+8eJI8= Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr1352959fgb.41.1225579394024; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lenny (84-73-201-16.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.73.201.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm6739939fgg.4.2008.11.01.15.43.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:43:11 +0100 From: Sven Aluoor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:11:57 -0000 Hi folks I tried netinstall of stable and current. Both versions of the installer dont have driver for my NIC. How to get ethernet working? "lscpi" on Debian Lenny: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) kind regards Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:15:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009EC106567A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A5E8FC25 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so959337wag.27 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:15:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :from; bh=JRODkRPzehIF8hCncPudXCSU8WVFcLxLFVfMbNAdKjU=; b=lZrKz1uy0Ci4VaKGz6bpJD2fBShbygx2OSaEJ3+olouhYYGj1MiVR0IoWe5dNuoY0w I1HFBBmn+5pIhYeU7PWVXJU5y1CVYwYpvRQRWa20gbhoyo0hnwgkBWHLbnHc/0P9RC8h G3vUvHVizjkCNZEWmpNMsd0w81VqUlx03jSBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; b=pLVGADNlHQT/6gtyTML23D66LK269nJutjfgDyI6osNceZOHLNVeT0U6VU/0pxggqX whDyt3fJHh3uPi6OMHCM0f6P4aM37T9/BiQOH50vzsFopoqLQ5rpWhlEwNIzmEsc0pgr +5z4KxP0tpanAONDH6AZRSROowuEM1R4WdUwM= Received: by 10.114.168.1 with SMTP id q1mr11429582wae.72.1225581355759; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? (ool-182d26f3.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.38.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m26sm8477526pof.3.2008.11.01.16.15.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490CE324.3010200@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:15:48 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Redd Vinylene References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eitan Adler Cc: misc@openbsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Funny slogans to put on tshirts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:15:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Redd Vinylene wrote: > Hello guys, > > It's my friend's birthday tomorrow. I was thinking I'd make him a > tshirt with some funny slogan on it or something. Preferably something > UNIX related. But I'm all outta ideas. Perhaps y'all can help? > Alright, much obliged, thanks. > just run "fortune" - -- GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkM4yQACgkQtl8kq+nCzNHxSACfRPo5dGk3/WapbBqyKCVNNbkj fecAnjtBXmyC41URNW9nVVoLotbZF/A4 =kGyU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:21:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1F9106567B for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f13.google.com (mail-gx0-f13.google.com [209.85.217.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B138FC1A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so351270gxk.19 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:21:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FLyY2FlWIFr7bjc8ylapo72+IIrTYVM6Hah7neym4IY=; b=Qn7a/FZsC43N+XNTw0y1aGndjE/eKZZZ1JfuexXXv3DFbVASqw9bnwRVhedk6OtgAb EzsYaerUkRfBvmbXMvPzwnZN0dxoMu04+h4kMRZ1qLqNdkJ9GPNN5Lzz293UZcXeYN4q 0aDipOFergJu19gU402auRDqeG+U+CNmF0+Dg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pVmgJgtZJQnuOwMFx3Z8ok2klM1cKd4bI8iQT8HwwOiwAmLr2QPUcKgcpWMfqMLyvW zciebg6ni0CQQ9+WhxNTqkMWixbWJGPBELOysX832AAKP02AtMrIOnPfE3rJT+3iptGh kk0Lusdm+iL3kvkc6ipOwDYNR+BlVzqx5Vgl0= Received: by 10.151.145.21 with SMTP id x21mr23690907ybn.218.1225581665983; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m73sm4804348rnd.0.2008.11.01.16.21.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490CE454.2020800@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:20:52 -0400 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Pellegrino References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A netgraph question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:21:07 -0000 Joe Pellegrino wrote: OK so here it goes. I actually have two seperate questions involving > netgraph, I am new to this subject so please bare with me. If there is a > better way to achieve these goals too, please suggest them but I think > netgraph is the way to go. > > The first part involves allowing a userland program to communicate with > a kernel module, similar to how netlink works in Linux. The second part > involves intercepting network packets and possibly manipulating them > before they are allowed to proceed, similar to how netfilter works. I > believe I can do both of these with the netgraph (ng_socket and possibly > ng_ether). I haven't looked closely at ng_ether yet so I'll focus on > ng_socket. > > I have been able to create a ng_socket (Control and Data) using the > socket call as described in "All About NetGraphs" and the man page. I've > also been able to 'name' the node using bind. I was able to verify this > using ngctl. I know (from the man page) I should eventually be able to > send/receive using the sendto/recvfrom functions once the connection is > established. But beyond this I don't know how to proceed. So the > question is what are the next steps. For example: > > Although I see a named netgraph node there are no hooks. ng_socket says > it supports an arbitrary number of hooks so how do I create the hooks? > Then of course how do I connect them. > > Of course I realize that I proabably need to create a node on the kernel > side so which type of netgraph node would be suggested? How is it > created and then hooked to the ng_socket? > > Again I am looking to allow some IPC between a userland program and a > kernel module similar to the Linux netlink. I've been through most man > pages and can't seem to find a lot of good documentation or example code > so I am hoping to get some pointers here. BTW If this is the wrong list > please directly to the right place to ask. Thanks in advance. > > ---jdp > Have you looked into how "systat -ifstat" works ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:23:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BE81065678 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f13.google.com (mail-gx0-f13.google.com [209.85.217.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5B18FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so351736gxk.19 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ag66O5zo+R0nNAJpU0H+ImLb/GvXEXaLmSz7gdxt25Q=; b=muLB/SooQEjltFLBKdfP8IWxgnVWCYVA8zqPKGv9ahavJ/KLJpSnRLFQRTQ9Er78el dueUgaT1wrtHkIEfDF4BQFypHH3ZJk9/ZXTQRm+N78FdLIrxfXreGGvLg7a2VCwidqP4 zw8ubLXCeCVFG+oMnKnxv5MD3U5qOJPz/FMyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=efV3WZNA8aQF+7TFU7FrfYn9MIwDJO1HWI/ODd/ypvS0guSSjCgqa9ySyVSOSk1DTN zlENuC4wduF5PW4sZQjXykj7eoyyjCNqp+v7k4AINorf7vThzTFSIUoz9n9K3fzMcGxW KIQNSTI7Kkqf4T0Zn13mifQP1fW2sZW9jHyfA= Received: by 10.151.155.5 with SMTP id h5mr19049857ybo.211.1225581808873; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k47sm4841548rnd.2.2008.11.01.16.23.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490CE4E6.5090402@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:23:18 -0400 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Pellegrino References: <490CE454.2020800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <490CE454.2020800@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A netgraph question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:23:30 -0000 Bryant Eadon wrote: > > Joe Pellegrino wrote: > OK so here it goes. I actually have two seperate questions involving >> netgraph, I am new to this subject so please bare with me. If there is >> a better way to achieve these goals too, please suggest them but I >> think netgraph is the way to go. >> >> The first part involves allowing a userland program to communicate >> with a kernel module, similar to how netlink works in Linux. The >> second part involves intercepting network packets and possibly >> manipulating them before they are allowed to proceed, similar to how >> netfilter works. I believe I can do both of these with the netgraph >> (ng_socket and possibly ng_ether). I haven't looked closely at >> ng_ether yet so I'll focus on ng_socket. >> >> I have been able to create a ng_socket (Control and Data) using the >> socket call as described in "All About NetGraphs" and the man page. >> I've also been able to 'name' the node using bind. I was able to >> verify this using ngctl. I know (from the man page) I should >> eventually be able to send/receive using the sendto/recvfrom functions >> once the connection is established. But beyond this I don't know how >> to proceed. So the question is what are the next steps. For example: >> >> Although I see a named netgraph node there are no hooks. ng_socket >> says it supports an arbitrary number of hooks so how do I create the >> hooks? Then of course how do I connect them. >> >> Of course I realize that I proabably need to create a node on the >> kernel side so which type of netgraph node would be suggested? How is >> it created and then hooked to the ng_socket? >> >> Again I am looking to allow some IPC between a userland program and a >> kernel module similar to the Linux netlink. I've been through most man >> pages and can't seem to find a lot of good documentation or example >> code so I am hoping to get some pointers here. BTW If this is the >> wrong list please directly to the right place to ask. Thanks in advance. >> >> ---jdp >> > > > Have you looked into how "systat -ifstat" works ? Whoops. Wrong thread. Please ignore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:27:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF67106567E for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49428FC13 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KwPsk-00070u-Jr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:27:51 +1100 Message-ID: <490CE649.7080801@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:29:13 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error trying to fetch kdelibs-4.1.3.tar.bz2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:27:52 -0000 Does anyone have s ite where i can manually d/l kdelibs-4.1.3.tar.bz2 as all the addies in the freebsd ports list for the file arent working for myself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:34:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F051065674 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC94A8FC0A for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:34:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89467 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2008 23:34:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Nb0rKGblNMBJvKQvwf3pyFUPruSSo8CerWSmBjIA3ELSQpM11UmriMIPvjBiJ6cZtiUbAtT08HbqRJFO5liZEDT7FBZto2ohtsUek1L2su65jdpgEgch+XO/DfZWhZhI5NAKVkoeRDDsj9G8iuXH7FB9jTwKTVmlfrZ2UjN9ZYs=; X-YMail-OSG: c_HO.awVM1kx4wVZedwH6s7CWokNOL4aI5B6MW_P2xQ521SJ9Kk- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:33:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sven Aluoor In-Reply-To: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <478010.88633.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:34:01 -0000 --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Sven Aluoor wrote: > From: Sven Aluoor > Subject: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:43 PM > Hi folks > > I tried netinstall of stable and current. Both versions of > the > installer dont have driver for my NIC. > > How to get ethernet working? > > "lscpi" on Debian Lenny: > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 > Gigabit > Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) > > kind regards > Sven If I recall correctly, the eeepc 1000H has an Attansic L1E, not an L1, ethernet controller chipset. FreeBSD RELENG_7 has support for the L1 and the L2, but I've heard that the L1E doesn't work yet. You should do some searching for a driver, it's possible one of our fine developers is looking for helping testing one they're working on. ;) - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:36:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C181065697 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992C68FC19 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673ED5C22; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:39:14 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <490CE7FE.807@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yuri@rawbw.com References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:36:31 -0000 Yuri wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look. >> that's why i compare it to windoze. >> >> and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? > > You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users. > Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. > I don't want to deal command lines/config files for mundane > things like finding and setting up wireless networks, playing > CDs/DVDs, etc. GUI integrated with desktop would make this > much less time consuming. >> >> just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc. >> > not really enough. > > Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to GUI and > desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested > development-stage > software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. > > Yuri > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ################### Aloha, Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:45:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DB61065673 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1965B8FC19 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KwQA3-000Ctk-2M; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:45:43 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KwQCT-0001xX-4Y; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:48:13 +0300 To: Sven Aluoor References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:48:13 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> (Sven Aluoor's message of "Sat\, 1 Nov 2008 23\:43\:11 +0100") Message-ID: <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:45:45 -0000 Sven Aluoor writes: > I tried netinstall of stable and current. Both versions of the > installer dont have driver for my NIC. > > How to get ethernet working? > > "lscpi" on Debian Lenny: > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit > Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) Seems that you may be interested at: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=343551+0+current/freebsd-current WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 23:48:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C1F106567D for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F388FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503E916C00DD; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:48:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA1NmCFm002366; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:48:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:48:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Al Plant Message-Id: <20081102004812.4faecd38.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <490CE7FE.807@hdk5.net> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> <490CE7FE.807@hdk5.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: yuri@rawbw.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:48:16 -0000 On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Aloha, > Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager. XFCE 3 can be turned into a CDE lookalike if it's desired. It's very lightweight and still features all the nice things you know from a UNIX X environment. Zsers coming from CDE will feel comfortable, if you take the time to tweak the settings a little bit. XFCE 4 has turned into the third "big player", right in one line with KDE and Gnome. If you don't mind ressources, XFCE 4 is really an excellent piece of software, you even won't miss dsktop effects featured by KDE or Gnome. It's very versatile in these regards. See these: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/ http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/ In my opinion - and that's very individual, you know - WindowMaker is one of the best window managers around. Fast, lightweight, easy to configure, excellent keyboard support (that's where the other ones are lacking), ah, and did I mention it's fast? You can provide a useful (!) system even on a P1 150 MHz system with it. No joke. If the magic of the tiling window managers opens up to you, you will even be more productive. Allthough I tried several of them, their magic wouldn't open up to me... :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...