From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 15 16:02:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309A31065693 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zec@icir.org) Received: from xaqua.tel.fer.hr (xaqua.tel.fer.hr [161.53.19.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10248FC14 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zec@icir.org) Received: by xaqua.tel.fer.hr (Postfix, from userid 20006) id DFA5A9B651; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:41:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on xaqua.tel.fer.hr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.7 Received: from localhost (imunes.tel.fer.hr [161.53.19.8]) by xaqua.tel.fer.hr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7859B9B647; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:41:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Marko Zec To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:41:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <48EC278C.7000106@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <48EC278C.7000106@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810151741.18097.zec@icir.org> Cc: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: recent patch set X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:02:55 -0000 On Wednesday 08 October 2008 05:22:52 Julian Elischer wrote: > Martijn Plak wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm wondering if there is a vimage patch set against FreeBSD-7 or > > FreeBSD-8 available that is more recent than the 28 feb 2008 patch > > on http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/. > > I'd just like to have a look, but don't have p4 access. > > > > Of course, the work on getting these patches into the official > > source tree is more important. > > http://www.freebsd.org/~julian/vimage.diff is about 10 days old. I just uploaded the latest tarballs here: http://imunes.net/virtnet/vimage-20081015.tgz (tracking 8) http://imunes.net/virtnet/vimage_7-20081015.tgz (tracking RELENG_7) Marko From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 05:46:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673471065692 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7FB8FC0A for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so329216rvf.43 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:46:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=6RnqvqWovC50R6pJx7A5eg9OBIaoz6pC1NU0vmk3tLw=; b=wGDaaJJ6yR2UN8GOhYwbkTZG/VWKKHXE0ar7sv91/RNJ+ud4o9/pBFlZoBCVKGj2yT x4/mEr8roNy9nHFSQOlEhVetpx+9n45VIQnI3XUbqZonV8upOux37kI1Q6uJaUjhMpOe Ae/kDpnnaW72s0kB6iwxGLgpredgEo/aKzq/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=X0Zbl2Y9WFBtbSb0kT9I9HsuOqPpQVWRzsRLniy0MedxZycfNPtOyJcvOLt1BInZoE rxRUTtEpq7Czcsyz3txXfy5uR3Y+odvbYHNjjtLUkB4q3Hv+rJIpnKhkC7YgO5GMZ2Qj Ijy3vqKUcAYAzAhRu9SVVSgoQCbo0N6zta+g4= Received: by 10.140.147.5 with SMTP id u5mr2230807rvd.166.1224221081773; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.101.21 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90810162224s4d56ffdcnf6c461d1e28e2384@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:24:41 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" Sender: mat.macy@gmail.com To: hackers@freebsd.org, "FreeBSD Current" , virtualization@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: cbdd38e2de43a413 Cc: Subject: new mailing list for xen X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:46:26 -0000 I've been getting a lot of recurring questions about the status of Xen support in FreeBSD and Xen configuration issues - the answers to which are changing frequently enough that simply adding a FAQ wouldn't make sense. I expect that initially the mailing list will be the "Dailykip", consisting of regular updates about enhancements combined with a steady influx of bug reports and configuration questions. If you're planning on testing out FreeBSD on Xen, please subscribe to freebsd-xen. Cheers, Kip From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 10:03:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC1F1065686 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tdcmystere@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230A28FC18 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tdcmystere@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so312794wag.27 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:03:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=+cBYBSm9wteys+3TQHKBxOLOTKe/yd42zZp/j9neGgw=; b=jqSFXgCvghWdmJFMYmdt+b9MK0wvtG+wPdxnYS04c4N3xhABjcsAcsgJ6vMdl9an+k Qk36yVL4lUljmr9ztDgLYJ3zhBv2AqMEwVQCsE7TLHjF9RscgYhFnJ6inOL2tsytOnJk 8BsaFf+M2IPYPw1iWLlOQ40mH5EGXU6ig/akM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=xdgmnc9yCL1J1dTmCr3FhE6ySp9749GUOQ9j4OWuzc8DoIHXl6aUXYVxUf/5IF0bNn EAvzZPabnuOumdrBCwnVFrKQJjetby6JG+SgsyNUeLXuOHQdcB+7pg/JdIsB0pPvOMEE DagXqi1b+BnWVLGPxDcQxlZn9j3KLSP494Yn4= Received: by 10.114.134.20 with SMTP id h20mr3230071wad.91.1224236396706; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.102.12 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:39:56 +0200 From: "Antipov Dima" To: listserver@FreeBSD-fr.org, freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Network configuration for KVM - Config reseau pour kvm X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:03:02 -0000 *English* Hi all sorry for my english i have little problem whis a network configuration for my freebsd used whi= s KVM so my probleme is simple ip of my host 91.121.156.206 ip oh my guest 91.121.234.115 from Gust i can ping any ip's but no domaines i can not ping my Guest from anywhere esolv.conf nameserver 231.186.33.99 domaine ovh.net search ovh.net on my host i have network interface wmbr0 so i add ip route add 91.121.234.115 (ip of my gust) dev vmbr0 on my guest i add a default route ip route add default 91.121.234.115 Thank you for all *French* bonjour a tous voila j ai jamais utilis=E9 freebsd et la j en ais besoin mon soucis j arrive a pinguer depuis le guest l exterieur et l interieur depuis host impossible pourtant la route est bien mise puis depuis guest je sais pinguer que les ip pas de domaines dans mon resolv.conf nameserver 231.186.33.99 domaine ovh.net je sais que il faut rajouter search ovh.net ou remplacer domaine par searc= h faut il faire encore qqch? et que dois je faire sur le host pour pinguer le gust? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:05:12 -0000 2008/10/17 Antipov Dima > > *English* > > Hi all > > sorry for my english > > i have little problem whis a network configuration for my freebsd used > whis KVM > > so my probleme is simple > > ip of my host 91.121.156.206 > ip oh my guest 91.121.234.115 > > > from Gust i can ping any ip's but no domaines > > i can not ping my Guest from anywhere > > esolv.conf > > nameserver 231.186.33.99 > domaine ovh.net > search ovh.net > > on my host i have network interface wmbr0 > > so i add > > ip route add 91.121.234.115 (ip of my gust) dev vmbr0 > > on my guest i add a default route > > ip route add default 91.121.234.115 > > Thank you for all > > *French* > > bonjour a tous > > voila j ai jamais utilis=E9 freebsd et la j en ais besoin > > mon soucis > > j arrive a pinguer depuis le guest l exterieur et l interieur > > depuis host impossible pourtant la route est bien mise > > puis depuis guest je sais pinguer que les ip pas de domaines > > dans mon resolv.conf > > nameserver 231.186.33.99 > domaine ovh.net > > > je sais que il faut rajouter search ovh.net ou remplacer domaine par > search > > faut il faire encore qqch? > > et que dois je faire sur le host pour pinguer le gust? > > > Merci d'avance > > > From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 11:21:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5231065688 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCC58FC1A for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1061DF40CDF3 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:55:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [85.178.36.207] (helo=[192.168.1.118]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1Kqmz5-0005GU-00 for freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:55:07 +0200 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080930) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/91Jktv3Kwr7GaNxzs6Gf4ReAkjPRE/cm9kHqk T/xI0+73uDDc6CfeykYHqc51w4QC3LWUCAdbWlPUON03+Hz+7P hKAO8SchU= Subject: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:21:40 -0000 Hello List, iam using quite a time fbsd already, but one major drawback for myself is the missing virtualisation machines available for other operating systems. I'd like to have working virtual machines for lnx/bsd/win + other operating systems on fbsd as host. So maybe i live under a rock and missed some important developements in the last time, but is there any real vm like "vmware" or "virtualbox" working on fbsd besides "qemu" and "bochs"? Best regards, Marco From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 12:36:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2055B1065686 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0118FC1F for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so870783gxk.19 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:36:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iy68ZU4KrnA29F0Pkf9iSqmvNHiDAnarSMORC0ij2iY=; b=bSucAToXPFSsTBFqHCrRY4QPsRUUMtw+ZFnJGAH33dj4CaiN8YF4YSWdoxBd9wDXFS Z9rKryiMX7r0MNG2LL8EmazRvRyG7eOVTB/csigRjoUFc08Wnz1v9Uw64oAbjs6LYLNO VpbnrZ1EV7/81F8UBZrKZY4IFls+srNGA1T7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NlGxBYUD5XEJ5/MrQbHsZ2OfwBtoR1ia4g/46Wq96UYXXEbL5t6Jvsa01VMeyddqTZ WPB3V2Ucm35Dy1dKqfSfLzCMWdt6LguP5lmO1JUx+gzhTHUYJlQ+R5vaFHNdagd6MsZs PNqlMtH3E6HUBpmRfs2sy1KJCKHLWuzkZT4r8= Received: by 10.90.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr4482027agb.108.1224245132525; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? (pool-70-111-10-128.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.111.10.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3098349agd.33.2008.10.17.05.05.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:05:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: Marco In-Reply-To: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:05:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:36:41 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 14:55 +0200, Marco wrote: > Hello List, > > iam using quite a time fbsd already, but one major drawback for myself > is the missing virtualisation machines available for other operating > systems. I'd like to have working virtual machines for lnx/bsd/win + > other operating systems on fbsd as host. So maybe i live under a rock > and missed some important developements in the last time, but is there > any real vm like "vmware" or "virtualbox" working on fbsd besides "qemu" > and "bochs"? I am using VMware extensively on Linux and Windows hosts and QEMU on FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) and the only thing I am missing from the latter is the guest USB support. This is not to say that there are no other differences. Maybe you can be a little more specific about what you consider "real vm". > > Best regards, > Marco > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 13:36:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482341065687 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024E38FC1B for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8757EF1F04CD for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [85.178.36.207] (helo=[192.168.1.118]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1KqpSJ-0002HU-00 for freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:33:27 +0200 Message-ID: <48F8B046.7050908@web.de> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:33:26 +0200 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080930) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> In-Reply-To: <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18CzI7svOOiOEqNSf6HYN+l02Ypqk+uc/SlEUvb HaDoeF7N1AdzK0uEr3tR8rjgWK5NcG3Zoaxl6NJj+xN2QAeyLX WNFd21kYk= Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:01 -0000 >more specific about what you consider "real vm". uhoh! please ignore the "real" >QEMU on FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) i have performance issues in windows guest os's, linux and opensolaris are working ok for me. any advice how to tune windows guests on qemu? (as the accelerator module is still alpha, i dont had the guts to use it yet ;)) Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 14:55 +0200, Marco wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> iam using quite a time fbsd already, but one major drawback for myself >> is the missing virtualisation machines available for other operating >> systems. I'd like to have working virtual machines for lnx/bsd/win + >> other operating systems on fbsd as host. So maybe i live under a rock >> and missed some important developements in the last time, but is there >> any real vm like "vmware" or "virtualbox" working on fbsd besides "qemu" >> and "bochs"? >> > I am using VMware extensively on Linux and Windows hosts and QEMU on > FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) and the only > thing I am missing from the latter is the guest USB support. This is not > to say that there are no other differences. Maybe you can be a little > more specific about what you consider "real vm". > > >> Best regards, >> Marco >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 18:40:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4026D1065695; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AF68FC0A; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (zoraida.natserv.net [66.114.65.147]) by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617821703C; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:20:55 -0400 (EDT) References: <3c1674c90810162224s4d56ffdcnf6c461d1e28e2384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: Kip Macy Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:20:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new mailing list for xen X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:40:43 -0000 Kip Macy writes: > If you're planning on testing out FreeBSD on Xen, please subscribe to > freebsd-xen. Isn't the virtualization list low volume enough that the discussion could have been done there? From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 20:59:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6B51065687 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB9C8FC18 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat.macy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so656426rvf.43 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:59:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qVUacyvQeyo5MRML20j6o3o9kHeBh38gxDXbpKNG9KA=; b=GocFsmszT1tgmyvFKOsW3+Sjn4fyizWqvYXoEAlb54lehJ/78sw3Yw1J6HLAH8OAHM hNcLZLK6rcOjt6CuzgXODhXdj3Qg/Ikw44Z/u3PET00bJxDMaEN1ID7BZI6Kn403elfy RQVt2xOP6OvkpfUj7z81W0pfGq/7d7URYUU4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=V8uNT5qGwuDdcFC9GRUuob9WjfhdHNqtxmzsHoRdaEpNpPfk6kceEiJ1kI3pziNlHN mqUCAIIEj8R9bzxBcVj1mhv7y29Hhtd6ZCYpvEI2nFDZn1RswMvzN8/3uHM7HgQAxpJL tvTjyQnl6gm+qP3Yt7jNo6hiaaxeC2gGN60sE= Received: by 10.141.115.20 with SMTP id s20mr2804764rvm.200.1224277199104; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.101.21 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c1674c90810171359x4188cd1eh7739c806645cdcdb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:59:59 -0700 From: "Kip Macy" Sender: mat.macy@gmail.com To: "Francisco Reyes" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3c1674c90810162224s4d56ffdcnf6c461d1e28e2384@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 910bbede75a075dc Cc: virtualization@freebsd.org, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: new mailing list for xen X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:59:59 -0000 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Francisco Reyes wrote: > Kip Macy writes: > >> If you're planning on testing out FreeBSD on Xen, please subscribe to >> freebsd-xen. > > Isn't the virtualization list low volume enough that the discussion could > have been done there? It is a matter of nomenclature. It falls in to both the blanket virtualization category and in to the category of actively developed sub-arch. The -ppc, -mips, -arm, -amd64, -i386, -sparc64, and -sun4v mailing lists are all very low traffic (less traffic than I anticipate) and thus, by your reasoning, could all be merged in to a -machdep list. In the event that that happens I will happily redirect traffic there. Cheers, Kip From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 00:48:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAC6106568A for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFAF8FC0A for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAA211A2CB5; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:28:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10961-03; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:28:29 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 32D9311A2CAF; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:28:29 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:28:25 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" , Marco Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:48:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, October 17, 2008 08:05:14 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" wrote: > I am using VMware extensively on Linux and Windows hosts and QEMU on > FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) Can you run multiple guest QEMU environments simultaneously? With networking? - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj5LakACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvN3gQCgq6kg04RpTvCf0/CiUWnWsS5K zhAAoIDIaZ5OsD0SRlvamwkUfhcqwdS2 =Z11S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 02:19:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86051065692 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC6E8FC08 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1833756gxk.19 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:19:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oQeu2r13GSGzKak2L2zSBwKIl2qgn6817F6tX+hkDOk=; b=CbtVg/gVOAzLJ0bN9yKWNL9sMQmglNJ5jRgEbW/yF28V1MaADx24nPnj/Lz7Xni2jO kMBxdpiN9WJ/Yys2xrrX/hna+zlABaPjQkomBfJCcZqVSvZ9JbcHA1md21Uwv8Zrhq9x uedOFXPImcC1ViABGxdrTqz96WDhhxbQ3naHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=NohsxyZbDkXZQRsfeILxjfKw2NGT6C1+bGaLlX8dYKL7i91+MWvXQrcIJooaCztaPl fCYZ1Xlgb/sjSQf+MebffFYu6xcsp/PV15o7u3uSxFApsc4uvz94bKTFEMyIwlUmTT1Y WBjUnOvmImbhkfA4UL0vXGB5Fw0W1iI5tknJ0= Received: by 10.101.68.19 with SMTP id v19mr339809ank.90.1224296363898; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? ([70.111.10.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b29sm7990918ana.22.2008.10.17.19.19.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:19:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: Marco In-Reply-To: <48F8B046.7050908@web.de> References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> <48F8B046.7050908@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:19:06 -0400 Message-Id: <1224296346.1118.9.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:19:24 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 17:33 +0200, Marco wrote: > >more specific about what you consider "real vm". > > uhoh! please ignore the "real" Please, do not take it as an attempt to give you a hard time -- different people have different real problems -- I was merely trying to ask about specific things you are after. > > >QEMU on FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) > > i have performance issues in windows guest os's, linux and opensolaris > are working ok for me. > any advice how to tune windows guests on qemu? (as the accelerator > module is still alpha, i dont had the guts to use it yet ;)) Ahem... I have been using kqemu-kmod for few years now and have yet to see any ill effects, apart from rare times when I rebuild kernel and forget to rebuild the module (I used to track -CURRENT, but now I am sticking to RELENG_7). YMMV, but I would certainly recommend giving it a try. Not to belittle VMWare, but I could not get their current kernel modules to build on my Gentoo box, so it is not that immune to kernel changes either. HTH, -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 02:38:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30AD1065689 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4512B8FC12 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1841898gxk.19 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:38:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eQpfgYtI8NkvTcf//2LQtOVcGRJ6VjtkvTmPeNn0NUE=; b=Jl3FbX0S52Cka8ZvljkVR9F1ECKAbYtxfkyDiQR6kepbqaLJzZ/zRZjAqujn9QCWFw TvPbaACLuqauoCtr5SYZ0XRfQhhPzF+hhI8RwsNsC2WN6Gog6LhgUUzn5pDuOURMe8KG GZPWjantr/zm8fTNTi1SCQxa0SSHvb2REMdPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d8Npk6wHApUHjCaFsBXfkE+wnGuQN6q8AmAb9Va5AYtWbLUmzL0XpTC7MDz9Y4NvEV reaBPfb7q09aqoDFi5Ezp71QawpZoUY/0uxiRnR3QMJ5hcYlPmujq85NzoTzB8It90hE yfEknUSF7/7b7SRw7wDNMcLpE5fbGsRwdRaYw= Received: by 10.150.204.12 with SMTP id b12mr7105167ybg.83.1224297500646; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? (pool-70-111-10-128.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.111.10.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm8118830yxj.7.2008.10.17.19.38.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:38:04 -0400 Message-Id: <1224297484.1118.28.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:38:21 -0000 On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 21:28 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Friday, October 17, 2008 08:05:14 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" > wrote: > > > I am using VMware extensively on Linux and Windows hosts and QEMU on > > FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) > > Can you run multiple guest QEMU environments simultaneously? With networking? Yes. Yes. ;) I can definitely run multiple QEMU guests simultaneously. Did you have any problems doing that? Now, networking part is slightly trickier to answer. Let me try to map this into VMware experience: -- assigning IP addresses. I am doing static configurations. It Should Not Be Hard (sm) to beat isc-dhcp into serving different address ranges to different tapX, but I have not done it. -- guest-to-guest internal networking. Easy: you have separate tapX with their separate IP addresses, as long as you have net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 set, it "just works". -- nat-to-outside-world. Slightly harder, but doable: sunny:RabbitsDen>cat pf.nat.conf # Internal interfaces (for QEMU and or Bluetooth clients) int_if_0 = "tap0" int_if_1 = "tap1" # Private network for QEMU and Bluetooth clients private_network_0 = $int_if_0:network private_network_1 = $int_if_1:network # External interface (if we are providing NAT for the clients above) ext_if = "ath0" # Provide NAT services for private clients nat on $ext_if from $private_network_0 to any -> ($ext_if) nat on $ext_if from $private_network_1 to any -> ($ext_if) pass from { lo0, $private_network_0 } to any pass from { lo0, $private_network_1 } to any sunny:RabbitsDen>sudo pfctl -F nat sunny:RabbitsDen>sudo pfctl -f pf.nat.conf We are done. Admittedly, if you have many clients which flicker in and out of existence, this gets very messy very quickly. Some scripting is advised. -- bridging-to-outside world. Have not tried it for the lack of need. HTH, -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 04:22:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1720B1065688 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD52F8FC1D for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC6711A2CA7; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:22:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54882-06; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:22:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 813A511A2CA5; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:22:32 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:22:31 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" , "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1224297484.1118.28.camel@RabbitsDen> References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> <1224297484.1118.28.camel@RabbitsDen> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:22:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Okay, *now* I'm intrigued ... can you recommend a good 'setup guide' for qemu=20 under FreeBSD? Or, a good generic one? - --On Friday, October 17, 2008 22:38:04 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko"=20 wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 21:28 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> - --On Friday, October 17, 2008 08:05:14 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" >> Kovalenko" wrote: >> >> > I am using VMware extensively on Linux and Windows hosts and QEMU on >> > FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) >> >> Can you run multiple guest QEMU environments simultaneously? With >> networking? > Yes. Yes. ;) > > I can definitely run multiple QEMU guests simultaneously. Did you have > any problems doing that? > > Now, networking part is slightly trickier to answer. Let me try to map > this into VMware experience: > > -- assigning IP addresses. I am doing static configurations. It Should > Not Be Hard (sm) to beat isc-dhcp into serving different address ranges > to different tapX, but I have not done it. > > -- guest-to-guest internal networking. Easy: you have separate tapX with > their separate IP addresses, as long as you have > net.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1 set, it "just works". > > -- nat-to-outside-world. Slightly harder, but doable: > sunny:RabbitsDen>cat pf.nat.conf > # Internal interfaces (for QEMU and or Bluetooth clients) > int_if_0 =3D "tap0" > int_if_1 =3D "tap1" > > # Private network for QEMU and Bluetooth clients > private_network_0 =3D $int_if_0:network > private_network_1 =3D $int_if_1:network > > # External interface (if we are providing NAT for the clients above) > ext_if =3D "ath0" > > # Provide NAT services for private clients > nat on $ext_if from $private_network_0 to any -> ($ext_if) > nat on $ext_if from $private_network_1 to any -> ($ext_if) > > pass from { lo0, $private_network_0 } to any > pass from { lo0, $private_network_1 } to any > sunny:RabbitsDen>sudo pfctl -F nat > sunny:RabbitsDen>sudo pfctl -f pf.nat.conf > > We are done. Admittedly, if you have many clients which flicker in and > out of existence, this gets very messy very quickly. Some scripting is > advised. > > -- bridging-to-outside world. Have not tried it for the lack of need. > > HTH, > > -- > Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko = (=D0=9E=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80 = =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BA=D0=BE) > - --=20 Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj5ZIcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvOyqACgtjuEvVxw2TiGjAod8FwWJNZ5 hMMAoOqgK7SLuA7Y5TmgdioxnA7aIv/R =3DKgWI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 04:40:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B391065694 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f16.google.com (mail-gx0-f16.google.com [209.85.217.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC368FC0C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so1887488gxk.19 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4clNcBDSpzm1KhRuV289R3nak2q5T+6exayYACP34SU=; b=w88TBj8/t+1nyxgTEv7S3DVMZRCzT8JKeJeDfo6rhzrnoWj9aIHbIZuRXJHXuslXdz gDdBWTQayuCto90XwSYb7m4ClVHYRjFgzaexDiQTYQYagoX983AI5CfEdmNO0GtnBrYC JNnIDGGPzU9NJv6Uswm69LY+Z3dcff/Urmgv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=sIzCEjLU0eG0rXGS8b9s6nX+GYbUxLPPL04aiX1khlYPnl/3baltyvxdeijyby0Zcd QEFsWqnE8LumFpra8Qh1IsfMCs5MQ27jSuYumitE8XqtzkyRTPiFLF80NJRuW57g/Cv4 6UDQrlI5ygleilnn3rvZdMqZKtDhfp4EXCFYk= Received: by 10.151.44.18 with SMTP id w18mr7293111ybj.97.1224304820666; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? (pool-70-111-10-128.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.111.10.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3907281yws.5.2008.10.17.21.40.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:40:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> <1224297484.1118.28.camel@RabbitsDen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:40:05 -0400 Message-Id: <1224304805.1095.7.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:40:22 -0000 On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 01:22 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Okay, *now* I'm intrigued ... can you recommend a good 'setup guide' for qemu > under FreeBSD? Or, a good generic one? Ahem... please do not take it wrong way, but 'man qemu' and 'man qemu-img' was all I needed at the time to get started. NAT setup was lifted practically verbatim from "The Book of PF" by Peter Hansteen, and hardly is QEMU specific. If you want command line, I start my QEMU with, or contents of if_up.sh, please, let me know and I will be happy to share. Otherwise, no I don't know of any guide or howto document, sorry. -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко) From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 09:43:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29F91065687 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407CA8FC15 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F4DF228A44 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.244.246.126] (helo=[10.8.0.2]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1Kr8LN-0007uW-00 for freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: <48F9AFC4.2090803@web.de> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:43:32 +0200 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080930) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> <1224297484.1118.28.camel@RabbitsDen> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+JrgXH37jLwOz1QQYERaen7tW6i6KJnmY2P4iX SpbVgU8klT8BcE6wuWnWrA3G3xREXWcCyXWV9NT/mqwCLan05X MAa9mPnzA= Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:43:35 -0000 >Okay, *now* I'm intrigued ... can you recommend a good 'setup guide' for qemu >under FreeBSD? Or, a good generic one? Actually its pretty simple to setup a qemu machine, what i realy enjoy in qemu is the ability to emulate different architectures, for that however i also have a "guide" i used when setting up a linux arm based system on my fbsd. It's pretty much the same(actually its even easier) to setup a x86 qemu based vm. http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu.php hth, marco Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Okay, *now* I'm intrigued ... can you recommend a good 'setup guide' > for qemu > under FreeBSD? Or, a good generic one? > > --On Friday, October 17, 2008 22:38:04 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" > Kovalenko" > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 21:28 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> > >> > >> - --On Friday, October 17, 2008 08:05:14 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" > >> Kovalenko" wrote: > >> > >>> I am using VMware extensively on Linux and Windows hosts and QEMU on > >>> FreeBSD host (with Windows, Linux and OpenSolaris guests) > >> Can you run multiple guest QEMU environments simultaneously? With > >> networking? > > Yes. Yes. ;) > > > I can definitely run multiple QEMU guests simultaneously. Did you have > > any problems doing that? > > > Now, networking part is slightly trickier to answer. Let me try to map > > this into VMware experience: > > > -- assigning IP addresses. I am doing static configurations. It Should > > Not Be Hard (sm) to beat isc-dhcp into serving different address ranges > > to different tapX, but I have not done it. > > > -- guest-to-guest internal networking. Easy: you have separate tapX with > > their separate IP addresses, as long as you have > > net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 set, it "just works". > > > -- nat-to-outside-world. Slightly harder, but doable: > > sunny:RabbitsDen>cat pf.nat.conf > > # Internal interfaces (for QEMU and or Bluetooth clients) > > int_if_0 = "tap0" > > int_if_1 = "tap1" > > > # Private network for QEMU and Bluetooth clients > > private_network_0 = $int_if_0:network > > private_network_1 = $int_if_1:network > > > # External interface (if we are providing NAT for the clients above) > > ext_if = "ath0" > > > # Provide NAT services for private clients > > nat on $ext_if from $private_network_0 to any -> ($ext_if) > > nat on $ext_if from $private_network_1 to any -> ($ext_if) > > > pass from { lo0, $private_network_0 } to any > > pass from { lo0, $private_network_1 } to any > > sunny:RabbitsDen>sudo pfctl -F nat > > sunny:RabbitsDen>sudo pfctl -f pf.nat.conf > > > We are done. Admittedly, if you have many clients which flicker in and > > out of existence, this gets very messy very quickly. Some scripting is > > advised. > > > -- bridging-to-outside world. Have not tried it for the lack of need. > > > HTH, > > > -- > > Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (;5:A0=4@ >20;5=:>) > > > > From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 18 23:27:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B3B1065689 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35D58FC1C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AE511A2D64; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:27:15 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79342-07; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:27:15 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1120B11A2D5C; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:27:14 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:27:11 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1224304805.1095.7.camel@RabbitsDen> References: <48F88B2B.1080700@web.de> <1224245114.75001.7.camel@RabbitsDen> <1224297484.1118.28.camel@RabbitsDen> <1224304805.1095.7.camel@RabbitsDen> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for virtualisation for FreeBSD needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:27:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Saturday, October 18, 2008 00:40:05 -0400 "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" wrote: > On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 01:22 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> Okay, *now* I'm intrigued ... can you recommend a good 'setup guide' for >> qemu under FreeBSD? Or, a good generic one? > Ahem... please do not take it wrong way, but 'man qemu' and 'man > qemu-img' was all I needed at the time to get started. Not taken wrong way, this is how I did my first 'jail' setups, but haven't played with QEMU yet, so figured I'd cover all bases before I even start :) Thank you ... - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkj6cM8ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvOvjACeNBi6i/rEeBbCRck/zhBwcbns /ckAoMuOk7AJqA2PyMdUqfc1CPBqwode =OHAP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----