From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 22:06:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97EC106566C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CFA8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so198904fxm.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3yY4XmK+SQVYHX44305qWfULcyjRhVY9QzGoWtCyml0=; b=oBtJVuaI+kB+ynK6f8K+WjGMJ5rcmt1sbdjGEHAMMJaMBfZOfOG/QS86paRxms8V1G N0GQ5ofUHgm33GsTrBzR4Mv+qmrnDuxbsslzjvHVPkMsDiPvtHT3L7j3kfw8GUmuKy+C 7tOqfM1+6l6EiceHp+m6mj9giprATwoodsYvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aykliqlw2zJ2ovIs2ctG0bWwz67QIqhr/84+Us9VHRPM/yrCg5B4NloroqI24uqYdq UZTKb1dk/4oy5e3vN58916SGtKyRyJTtcQRRKdBdhHZ2PXMDqCRxzWj5VyFE+OAfyPTB qIEt1xZNhJVwIyu2sThUyibbrho9Hn1k6wdtw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.160.9 with SMTP id m9mr3463395muo.96.1240869992297; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49F60B83.5000702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:06:32 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jayton Garnett To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [Ukfreebsd] London or Brighton Meetup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:06:34 -0000 Anywhere near Oxford would be great :-) I don't think my leash will stretch as far a Laandhan :( -- Jay From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 05:06:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539A1106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net [79.135.125.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADA48FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: from 93-97-22-18.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.22.18] helo=access2.hanley.stade.co.uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-1.gradwell.net with esmtp (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 49f6855c.5ad7.39 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:26:04 +0100 (envelope-sender ) Received: from steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk (steerpike [192.168.1.10]) by access2.hanley.stade.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3S4Q3JK052220 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:26:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1@steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk) Received: from steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3S4Q3BU041192 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:26:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1@steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3S4Q3Tr041191 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:26:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:26:03 +0100 From: Adrian Wontroba To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090428042603.GB39974@steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Wontroba , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <49F60B83.5000702@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE Organization: Oh dear, I've joined one again. X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on steerpike.hanley.stade.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [Ukfreebsd] London or Brighton Meetup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:06:34 -0000 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:06:32PM +0100, Jayton Garnett wrote: > Anywhere near Oxford would be great :-) For me, maybe a Saturday or Sunday evening meet in Oxford, though that's a fair way from here (Crewe). Brighton is too far for a meeting. > I don't think my leash will stretch as far a Laandhan :( Will it stretch to Cambridge in the autumn? http://www.ukuug.org/events/eurobsdcon2009/ -- Adrian Wontroba Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful than the sun." "Why?", he was asked. "Because at night we need the light more." From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 18:29:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201351065675 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lab@gta.com) Received: from mailgate.gta.com (mailgate.gta.com [199.120.225.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7B5F8FC1D for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lab@gta.com) Received: (qmail 16302 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Apr 2009 18:03:02 -0000 Date: 28 Apr 2009 18:03:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20090428180302.16301.qmail@mailgate.gta.com> From: Larry Baird To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Organization: Global Technology Associates In-Reply-To: <109321.93238.94573@localhost> X-Newsgroups: freebsd.chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.3-PRERELEASE (i386)) Cc: Subject: Re: UTF as Filename Extension X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:29:45 -0000 In article <109321.93238.94573@localhost> you wrote: > According to Larry Baird: > > I have also put utf-8 bomb characters at the beginning of my text files. > > Take a look at: > > http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Working_with_Unicode > > You don't need BOM for UTF-8 files, UTF-8 is a byte-oriented encoding, > that's one of its great interest... I agree with not needing the BOM for processing. I have some files that I pass around between different users in different locales. I want to make sure these files come back to me still in utf-8 format. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Larry Baird | http://www.gta.com Global Technology Associates, Inc. | Orlando, FL Email: lab@gta.com | TEL 407-380-0220, FAX 407-380-6080 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 20:10:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B067106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 20:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce.williams@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f167.google.com (mail-gx0-f167.google.com [209.85.217.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD388FC0C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 20:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce.williams@gmail.com) Received: by gxk11 with SMTP id 11so2130756gxk.19 for ; Sat, 02 May 2009 13:10:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iByAVdUS/dbu6Rr6SKjJemY2BQWqkSJgwKTx9EitLyc=; b=bPbicNzCOAANyU56rEJyZfPQHGjQ+WyBts7gwcL2rJmZNu9GQMuyrmdc04yHpSc32C ZCNLnQ9TSfPdMf1obU02h5ZAixfOYX4Bucx/+Q9nAHDY3mGGcQuVE+qXOnOckyOEOiVt YlnJ0VBDY1+B791L2FwCxZXA1g1yorlAEa4TY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UKiIVGb3G5JGUvJdZdq+AJw6JKt2/jdbS/7HauRc9pk48+7Z6GTZFEJOaPELaZCPmN 2aNZXoTsuCx/W6cAVAhYiTZmchaITES9oLDOsNB08g6eBvvIbrVq0ZgwlvUxDucAUD37 d6mNJeXQR1JaiXvAF0AVFTDMkZalnqDMP0rN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.92.13 with SMTP id p13mr8455638ybb.79.1241293781988; Sat, 02 May 2009 12:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 11:49:41 -0800 Message-ID: <9dd082310905021249i28a16c79oba4059da9f61d76c@mail.gmail.com> From: Royce Williams To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: contributing more X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 20:10:57 -0000 I am ramping up to participate more in the FreeBSD project, and I could use some advice in two areas: First, I could use some general ramp-up advice. About me: I'm not new to FreeBSD as an admin. I have contributed a few shell patches in the past, and I am somewhat familiar with the PR process. I am dusting off my C from college, and I've otherwise started to fish for myself as much as possible as outlined here: http://roycebits.blogspot.com/2009/04/contributing-more-to-freebsd.html Any other suggestions will be gratefully accepted. Second, I will be at BSDCan this year - my first BSD conference. I have already asked some of you for first-timer advice, but I could always use more perspectives. Also, since I won't recognize most of you by sight, please take a quick look at the photo on my blog. If you see me, some ice-breaking help would be appreciated. :-) If you are in the same boat -- either looking to ramp up, or new to BSDCan, or both -- I'm looking for buddies. I'll also be looking for like-minded folks at the "Getting Started in FOSS" session. Contact me off-list. I look forward to meeting you! Royce Williams P.S. My potential attendee buddy can't make it, so I now have an apartment-style room to combine with someone. Contact me if you're interested.