From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 11:39:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E889310656A5 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gedankezauberer@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29568FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pnc11c0021vN32cADnfNpP; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:39:22 +0000 Received: from zauberer.unix.freebsd.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pnll1c0040Yq9Sc8inll5J; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:45:46 +0000 Message-ID: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:34:56 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:39:22 -0000 Hey everyone, A few weeks ago, I posted a message to this list, or advocacy, can't remember which since I'm on a different machine right now, but, anyway, I posted to the list asking everyone about games on FreeBSD for a pretty old machine (Going on a decade in fact, and it wasn't a bells and whistles box then either heh) so anyway, I wanted to post a follow up because quite a few people contacted me saying they liked these games too! Here are the specs on my test machine I've been using basically all the time over the last few weeks because, well, FreeBSD makes this machine able to do things some of my WAY faster boxes can't! Gateway Essentials EV500 15 inch Monitor Gateway Essentials PC, came with Windows 95 and Windows 98 8 MB ATI Video Card 433 MHz Celeron Processor The 9 GB drive it came with, when my Mom bought this years ago, started grinding. She told me about it and I explained how the thing was already old, couldn't run half the stuff She wanted anyway, and even though a HD replacement was easy fast and cheap, upgrading RAM for this thing and Video, wasn't. She bought a new PC, I slapped a nice new 80 GB drive in it, and popped Windows 2000 Professional, Slackware, and FreeBSD on it. The machine now only has a 3 GB Windows 98 SE partition on it so I can play Magic: The Gathering for PCs on it (The version I have is the original, it didn't work on NT, so it not only won't work on 2000, it won't even run on it) and then the rest of the disk is for FreeBSD. It came with 64 MBs RAM which I've upgraded (If you can call it that lol) to 192 MBs RAM. It's basically something I can test stuff on. Obviously, I'm not running KDE4 on it or anything like that. However, I WOULD like to point out how well this thing DOES work. A machine most people would toss out, has allowed me to make a very nice workstation! I do this because first I can't afford a brand new computer and my machines are becoming dated as it is, so I try making what I have work, and second, by choosing carefully I can make this work well! I'm using Thunderbird for one of my mail accounts, and Sylpheed-Claws for another account, and I have both running right now. I also use Galeon as a web browser. It's a crap load faster than Firefox could ever be, and works just fine, and I generally have Myspace, and a bunch of other tabs loaded all at once without much lag. I also have an FTP server set up so I can do back ups across the machines on my LAN. I have a main FTP server (The first computer I ever bought, Pentium 3 733MHz, 384 MBs RAM, Video card that can't really display a GUI anymore without having ugly lines everywhere looking like crap, running Slackware 12.2 and VSFTPd as I can upload back ups to it, and store it on the HDs I have installed on it, so I can have one central location to back up to, and then I also set one up on here even though it's only 80 GBs it lets me back up the important stuff in more than one spot. Anyway, this machine is also running Window Maker, since, like I said, KDE and GNOME would be pushing it, though they both do run on here, they do obviously lag a bit, and so I use Window Maker, Enlightenment, and I also like FVWM2, all of which I use on here depending on what I want it to look like :) All that and the machine still doesn't lag a whole lot, and I have myself logged into a bunch of TTYs with Elinks running for BOFH reading. I can barely do what I do on here, on my Laptop which has a Pentium 4 in it, @ 3.06 GHz and 512 MBs RAM. Games Related Part: So anyway, I wanted to try some of the text based games because they struck an interest in me, and I asked on here, and got a lot of replies. One game I've been playing a LOT, is Dungeoncrawl. I started playing, and after a few days of working out the controls and how it works, I started playing it for a while, and I really like it! My Wife, who has played MUDs before, which I don't really like and am not into, and who also knows Unix very well, also downloaded it and started playing it. She, like me, got hooked on it within a few days. Basically, She did the same thing I did; Downloaded the game, ran it, played, kind of wondered how it worked after not going to far in the Dungeon, and then after 2 days, couldn't stop playing! We also grabbed StoneSoup as I had read about it while looking up info about the game and I liked it too, but not as much. It's to bad they don't release this game more often though. Anyway, I was wondering how many people here play DungeonCrawl, what your best scores are, and more or less, this: When did you start playing Dungeoncrawl? (This is a little on topic since I didn't know the game existed until I saw it on the FreeBSD servers!) Do you have a fav character type? Personally, I started with the Wizard, then assn, and right now I've been going with Venom Mage because it's very interesting to me how powerful they get. My Wife likes the Orc fighters, and things like that, but has been appreciating the Mage parts too. I recently just got killed because I forgot to delete a bones file, and my Level 7 Venom Mage Ghost got me. (Took me a while to figure that out let me tell you heh, now if I do well, I try and delete those, but at the same time thought oh wow that was a cool idea! so sometimes I'll save a bones file for that reason). I also like the way the game is set up. I haven't been much into RPGs or any other type of game without a shotgun, so this is all new to me other than Magic The Gathering which I started playing in 1994. I like how I can set up my FreeBSD test machine, make an account for both my Wife and I, and then we can play this game on the same account without using our normal log in IDs, and by using an account just for this game, we can not only play and see who can do what, but we of course have the bones files too heh. So it's kind of neat how I can set up Telnet, or SSH, and then play a game from that, and then, if I want, set up an account for the game, and use that for my Wife and I to log into the box, and play on that account to see how we can do with the scores. Anyway, I'm just wondering about the other BSD DungeonCrawl fans and things like that. Also thanks to everyone who replied to my earlier message and gave me the links to the BSD Ports FTP, it was very helpful and I installed quite a bit of stuff :) Thanks! -Allen From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 12:34:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5A10656AC for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9F88FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3805498bwz.43 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:34:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/sDGsxXkdQFF3+kKSbKnXW4HFkUy3GfDDJebfVgOfMM=; b=jTqH8sxVp7A8udqX1sJEIfgOVagwDO/ZM/bOOem44jVAZR5MC4m8dd/JmeBAeMrmFW 1aLwTb8ao58YXBI3DQsWISCgeRjbIx9lyB7K+NVxH0fX6jxWUKhUFq33RqcDb/Mz/d0p /Ti7a9L7/Q++BO2fehNuGi8eZwCDvYAzVFLmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OzA92/mpPQZFqn/BdJpv40kokRQObURalVMoNEcbcdsZ5pf5SGQitQ8igK8EijF9w5 Fb8YSVDf8XJzGt6uExGnQVhpNDMjYeOm+F8GuBsBNXDNayiZzAnsZJl34yAKLLS2LNle 2K0As1dy4NiMwND1Pz72Kfrh/vfqroCJ7TbwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.75 with SMTP id k11mr6288775bkd.105.1254917304209; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:08:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:08:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jayton Garnett To: Allen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:34:13 -0000 Games? games? What are they? I do not understand this term - Games. I do know what you mean about using an older machine though, I have a P2 350Mhz (maybe 450mhz) with only 128mb ram in a small Slimline Compaq :) It ran FAMP, FTP, SSH and X pretty well and kept up with the (small amount) of requests. Only reason it has been 'decommissioned' is the hard drive failed during a house move where the PC must have got chucked around, it had the only copy left of my CMS (another hard drive had failed in my other PC that held the 'backup' of my website/CMS) and since then could not be bothered to rebuild my website/CMS as it had taken an age to get it to a decent state with plenty functionality. I too was impressed with the little 'beasts' performance, friends who used the FTP & SSH services thought it was a newer machine because it was quite nippy :) Back on topic then... Never tried these games you've talk about, although I do remember playing text based games 'back in the day' :) Cheers, Jayton From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 18:30:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACAE1065672 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skeptikos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA8A8FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so8615054ewy.43 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:30:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGY6ITqeQVaueyFis4314H7lpd72tJ04H4kRvYOCoS8=; b=bIdWFys8OJ9yhHJFblSKzuU9LJU3cZqBTDPO/mz8SLlrInl2uzDVX0aMKCk3kszZbA LwRfwM1Ae9xGCMbezayRwHXMpo26NJKRsj7Uz/1VEOSDJIYqBf+EkulhqKx9WkE/VAkd VBsO2wXcIkbtNoDjwUyxcNqEd/4QCVz+DPbhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z8AE5hcPbXWAQj+UGakZ7QWorPjOIpMVgRdj+4tnHkOd/1LFNDT2u9COAwvEfpQRA8 eFn0tOGkepBc5RGeTP3gPwXPYNgT0gDBpFpRzXTlMgLT+/1+W1IT4DQm0jDBXFsWZap+ UCBSFuLrXhV7jjCxa3df+BH/WhnQSW5ynULDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.131 with SMTP id y3mr77417wee.9.1254938516751; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:01:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:01:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: christopher floess To: Jayton Garnett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:30:52 -0000 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Jayton Garnett w= rote: > Games? games? What are they? =A0I do not understand this term - Games. I too dont play games, though the original post made me try nethack. I've been too busy to pursue it, but it wasn't bad. I just wanted to chime in about old machines. I had a 500 mHz Pentium that actually ran as my backup machine for quite some time, until a few months ago, when I had to clean house for the gf. Everytime one of my main machines went down because the motherboard died or the processor died or something else died, this thing fired up and ran as a stand in for a regular desktop for my school work. FreeBSD + fvwm2 worked just fine. If I remember correctly, I even used OpenOffice. It made things a little slow, but it was definitely usable, so papers were finished, programs were written :) The last time used it, I ran it as a webserver for a website to manage a group project for one of my professors. In return, I got an internship in Berlin. That's what I'm in the middle of right now. All in exchange for taking someones "trash". Bye everyone -- Chris From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 01:08:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0026106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nicoal@nicoal.org) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB008FC1D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1254110fga.13 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:08:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.230.27 with SMTP id c27mr543962fgh.63.1254962503069; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:41:43 -0400 Message-ID: <43b097f60910071741q752389aag230bd8885a652d6e@mail.gmail.com> From: ns To: Allen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:08:13 -0000 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Allen wrote: > Anyway, I'm just wondering about the other BSD DungeonCrawl fans and things > like that. > Decided wanted to win in Crawl after ascending a fair amount in NetHack, won once with a Mountain Dwarf Fighter in Stone Soup version 0.3.4 and haven't played much since. Anyhow, there is a fairly large IRC community on Freenode in ##crawl and you can find information about the public server most use at http://crawl.akrasiac.org/ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 09:48:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683071065676 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gedankezauberer@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CB98FC2A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id q9ow1c00A0lTkoCAD9owVN; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:48:56 +0000 Received: from zauberer.unix.freebsd.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id q9ov1c0010Yq9Sc8Q9ovjf; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:48:56 +0000 Message-ID: <4ACDB480.4090908@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:44:32 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:48:56 -0000 Jayton Garnett wrote: > Games? games? What are they? I do not understand this term - Games. > > > I do know what you mean about using an older machine though, I have a P2 > 350Mhz (maybe 450mhz) with only 128mb ram in a small Slimline Compaq :) It > ran FAMP, FTP, SSH and X pretty well and kept up with the (small amount) of > requests. Only reason it has been 'decommissioned' is the hard drive failed > during a house move where the PC must have got chucked around, it had the > only copy left of my CMS (another hard drive had failed in my other PC that > held the 'backup' of my website/CMS) and since then could not be bothered to > rebuild my website/CMS as it had taken an age to get it to a decent state > with plenty functionality. I too was impressed with the little 'beasts' > performance, friends who used the FTP & SSH services thought it was a newer > machine because it was quite nippy :) Yea it's amazing how an OS that's brand new, you download the thing, burn some CDs, and it not only installs and works, but does so faster, than an OS from like years ago like XP, which has like not even a 100th of the software, or functionality. I've always thought that was nice. It's like, you look at Vista and what you need, and once the shock is done, you think "WOW! no wonder these hardware guys like Dell and the others let Microsoft stay as the only choice you see on their main pages and rarely offer anything else other than the odd Linux Laptop or FreeDOS install which, sometimes doesn't even work, because they'll make more money back when people upgrade to use this crap!" > Back on topic then... Never tried these games you've talk about, although I > do remember playing text based games 'back in the day' :) > > Cheers, > Jayton From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 22:08:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343C71065696 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42818FC17 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n98LtnVX002419; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:56:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YiF0wbX7WV4X; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:55:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n98LZuLp002070; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:36:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:35:55 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: christopher floess References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:08:04 -0000 christopher floess wrote: > All in exchange for taking someones "trash". Indeed, you can run a piece of junk computer on FreeBSD and do things Windows never could ... well, I shouldn't say never, but it can't now, unless you're still willing to install 3.1 from floppy or Win95 from the 14th-generation CD-R copy of your original from 14 years ago. And, as far as "trash" goes, what I'd really love is to have someone's leftover "trash bandwidth". The resources should be *liberated* from the overlords! I just lost my backup MX and DNS system when the folks I had an agreement with decided to go DHCP/DSL (cheap) instead of a static business package. Now, if anyone's got that sort of trash lying around, wouldn't we all love to have a share? Just trolling, Oh, and games. It's like heroin. Don't start, or your life gets sucked into the monitor ;-) Thanks, Java, for six months of wasted life over the last 5 years. Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 01:28:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4111065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gedankezauberer@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701868FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qR5Y1c00D1afHeLABRTxMg; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:27:57 +0000 Received: from zauberer.unix.freebsd.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qRTz1c0010Yq9Sc8dRU1d5; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:28:06 +0000 Message-ID: <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:23:36 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:28:09 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > christopher floess wrote: > > >> All in exchange for taking someones "trash". > > Indeed, you can run a piece of junk computer on FreeBSD > and do things Windows never could ... well, I shouldn't > say never, but it can't now, unless you're still willing > to install 3.1 from floppy or Win95 from the 14th-generation > CD-R copy of your original from 14 years ago. I wasn't around for those days... Heh, I have a fairly pristine copy of Windows 95 and two copies of Windows 98. They're in good condition because when I got my VERY first computer, my Mom bought it from my Uncle, it was running Windows 95, had I think a 133 MHz CPU, and like 32 MBs RAM, but I'm not even sure... This was September of 1999. I know the month and year I got my first Computer, because I had started using it, got hooked on the idea of a machine I controlled, and two weeks after getting it, without manuals to read, without help, I started screwing with it until I figured it out. Some people who know me think and say "How is it you can fix any computer no matter what it's running, without a manual, without classes... And you seem to understand how your fix worked?" and it's because the night I started, I still remember opening Microsoft Word, sitting there for two hours screwing with buttons on it, and then figuring out "OK, I highlight the text, and THEN press that "B" and then it's in Bold.. Ahh OK!" And then going from there. The next night I started messing with Explorer, and saw all the files and so on, and got how to move files around. I was lucky enough not to try system files. I just used dummy files. A week later, I was done with everything in the start menu except this "weird little box called MS-DOS prompt" which didn't seem to have many buttons, and typing stuff didn't help because it just said bad something or other"... Yea lol I know, dumb. Hadn't ever seen a command line before so cut me SOME slack though ;) You have to understand that before this, I had not ever touched any computer except for an AppleII for 5 minutes at school when I was like 4. So I literally had only touchbed a computer for 5 minutes before this and it was an Apple II I knew nothing about. On week two, I had learned what online meant, and "accidentally" watched my Uncle type in his Prodigy password to go online. He left for a week and I had un-restricted access. I still thought "Restart your computer" meant restarting it from scratch and I'd lose all programs, so I always shut it down and turned it back on after an installation, which I figured out myself too. So I wasn't by any means good at it. I saw the Prodigy home page and got online for the first time one afternoon, and thought "Wow.... This thing has neat pictures of Pamela Anderson" lol... Hey, I'm a German American and damn proud of that, we like nudity right? lol. And for a 17 year old punk rocker this was a new experience and I loved it. On week two of having a computer, I signed up for an account on Bolt.com and started learning what a social networking site did, and since they always said "this person joined on this date" that's how I knew when I got a computer; I had memorized it. So, I've had a computer since September of 1999, and within 6 months, I screwed up the machine bad by opening something by accident. See, within a few months, I learned what Computer Security meant. The idea someone could control a computer from somewhere else, grabbed me hard.I LOVED the idea of security in computers. I started slow by seeing what those weird DoS tools were, and thought "OK, annoying, but the idea is interesting" and then I started a virus collection because I didn't collect baseball cards and every boy needs a hobby ;) That would seal the fate of that PC. A friend I had met who was into this stuff too, said he found some great ones for my collection, and I grabbed a floppy disk to store them on, and he was like "by the way, one of these isn't Zipped, be careful" and I'm like "OK man".... I was a little side tracked by porn at the moment, and when I went to close a Window that had all my new viruses on it, I for some reason Double Clicked on the one he warned me about.... OK, just for the record, I was just collecting these. I wasn't infecting a Company or something, I just thought the idea of them was kind of neat, so I collected them. Just making sure no one thinks I was one of "those" kids. Now, this thing turned out not to be a virus at all. Instead, it turned into the ONLY ONLY ONLY .exe I've EVER come across that does PHYSICAL damage to a machine.... I'm in no way kidding. I saw what I had done fast.... I had went to close the window and accidentally double clicked on it instead and instantly hit for the power switch to shut the machine off.... It was to late though. I saw a DOS Prompt come up saying something or other, and when I turned the machine back on, it wouldn't even boot. This machine ran Windows 95, had a lot of MP3s, and some movies and pics. When that happened, I couldn't even get Windows 3.1 to install. A friend and I worked on it all the time, and I was shocked. I couldn't do anything.... I managed to install PC-DOS on this thing, and then when I tried to install Windows 3.1, it said the drive wasn't big enough! I the next day, went and bought my first paidfor computer, and used it insted which I still have, but the fact that later in life when I started using Linux, about a year later, I tried again to install Linux on the drive that thing killed. Linux wouldn't install either, it said the drive was screwed up and couldn't even fix it except for a small DOS partition which was like, a few MBs. I remember shutting the power off before it finished running, but it was FAST, and this thing actually killed somehow a portion of a disk drive, and had it run all the way probably wouldn't have allowed DOS either. Fdisk couldn't even work on it. I was literally shocked. 9 years later, I can still remember it, and I STILL have the floppy disk I copied all that stuff too he sent me that night. And yea, I STILL have that executable that destroyed my first PC lol. I didn't know about hardware at the time so the fact that a new drive would have been a better fix didn't cross my mind until it was too late and I had given the thing to a friend's Dad. To this day I don't know what's on that thing, and yes, I've popped the floppy in since then to look, and saw all those olden days of my later teen years sitting there... And the thing that ripped up the disk drive, which I've now zipped up and made a tarball just in case lol. I still have it, and friends have asked for a copy, and haven't ever figured it out either how it did all that. > > Oh, and games. It's like heroin. Don't start, or > your life gets sucked into the monitor ;-) > > Thanks, Java, for six months of wasted life over the last > 5 years. Java isn't Heroin, it's Crack ;) > Kevin Kinsey > ________________ From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 08:19:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B701D1065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401858FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so436592bwz.43 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:19:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AYXrouMkixVZsn+opbReBHB7XjSVG60iWYjXPmZKI5c=; b=tuQhokzETZZHRjFRTR+Fm7o67u/UVwgMfTIwEviTUHjhZwhosl9EXJky1yVe2nc93Y 36zlVUXrlAg8NAtoHR5CA/CRR4jcBx+WGN7/hFJbTCGzid1x+bOMeNcU76cqz2oo9oWq cR2oeg+mbb4pn/hkE/ndbdQx4VvA+8jm6aCWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=G3jp/de5SvwzXF+lPgh4wwmJ1UQeLNlCENVhr/0VA3SajFkbih1MJZ89jZdrASzqc1 GdOPy6a//QLN8bivUp6FtJtp1Ql/+ydLvSeobquFDPlEzOp1xvwxns5oX60bEuLjeHCa jhp64gpPMpBuC+DwyNnfMYpq33MDcrQ3XjigQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.23 with SMTP id j23mr1944726bkd.31.1255076351174; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:19:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:19:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jayton Garnett To: Allen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:12 -0000 Sounds like you probably caused the damage to the disk by powering down while it was trying to write to the disk and if you 'smashed' the power button it's possible you hit the case hard enough to rumble the drive causing physical damage ;) of course it's also possible the EXE was written to change the geom of the drive at chip level. If you're really interested you can reverse engineer it to see exactly what it does ;) From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 09:10:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6870106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBE38FC1C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd6ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.160]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 03:10:52 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=GsrDnNNj_KkA:10 a=0S1XfAVaquWMAfU7ho/htg==:17 a=dn9yiIkwJ5xdUOpwuqYA:9 a=Gp5-ulNvvMO_MmnN-CBUyZjMEOcA:4 Received: from unknown (HELO cydem.org) ([24.87.3.133]) by pd6ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2009 03:10:52 -0600 Received: from soralx (soralx [192.168.0.240]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id 6B63B7F2B5; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:10:44 -0700 From: To: Message-ID: <20091009021044.44f46591@soralx> In-Reply-To: <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: GedankeZauberer@comcast.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:10:53 -0000 > Now, this thing turned out not to be a virus at all. Instead, it turned > into the ONLY ONLY ONLY .exe I've EVER come across that does PHYSICAL > damage to a machine.... I'm in no way kidding. > > I saw what I had done fast.... I had went to close the window and > accidentally double clicked on it instead and instantly hit for the > power switch to shut the machine off.... It was to late though. I saw a > DOS Prompt come up saying something or other, and when I turned the > machine back on, it wouldn't even boot. > > This machine ran Windows 95, had a lot of MP3s, and some movies and > pics. When that happened, I couldn't even get Windows 3.1 to install. > > A friend and I worked on it all the time, and I was shocked. I couldn't > do anything.... I managed to install PC-DOS on this thing, and then when > I tried to install Windows 3.1, it said the drive wasn't big enough! > > I the next day, went and bought my first paidfor computer, and used it > insted which I still have, but the fact that later in life when I > started using Linux, about a year later, I tried again to install Linux > on the drive that thing killed. > > Linux wouldn't install either, it said the drive was screwed up and > couldn't even fix it except for a small DOS partition which was like, a > few MBs. could it be that the program simply changed disk geometry in BIOS to something small, and you did not notice? [SorAlx] ridin' VN2000 Classic LT From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:00:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02061065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gedankezauberer@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68D68FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id qgch1c0040vp7WLA6l0hQw; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:00:41 +0000 Received: from zauberer.unix.freebsd.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ql0f1c0040Yq9Sc8Rl0goY; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:00:41 +0000 Message-ID: <4ACFA373.608@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:56:19 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:00:40 -0000 Jayton Garnett wrote: > Sounds like you probably caused the damage to the disk by powering down > while it was trying to write to the disk and if you 'smashed' the power > button it's possible you hit the case hard enough to rumble the drive > causing physical damage ;) of course it's also possible the EXE was > written to change the geom of the drive at chip level. > > If you're really interested you can reverse engineer it to see exactly > what it does ;) The Power button on that machine, was one of those oldschool ones that actually cut power, so I didn't have to push it hard or anything, and I know it didn't damage the disk itself, because like I said, it still worked, just completely screwed the thing. I'm not sure about the geom part, but shouldn't Fdisk be able to change that when you do a fresh format of the drive using the DOS version AND the Linux tools to try and format? the drive did format but for some reason it said it was really small after. It was odd. I can't reverse engineer since my coding skills are basically hello world in everything except HTML and Perl, so not much that would otherwise help. Anyway, the only one I hadn't thought of was the geom part. I was thinking about finding an old crap drive and putting Windows 95 on it to try out that floppy again and see if now I could fix it since my skills in computing have grown quite a lot since that time. -Allen From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:50:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E50106568F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5585E8FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so933703bwz.43 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B9ctMCr+YUBySSQ4QvdhuqPNDgM/ufkxy5uYiQm6J9E=; b=HFZA5Sj1hsNxhsSj5LrTDGak5MpeF+UvahGvqDwLMpSE17pixjw3dUDtGMO3BNKSIA 52/5IElMLxpphPhYrmoKkrUN46vsLm1mhH2J4WP+c2q7BJfmBsj+oKx/XpeuCLOQ5pfe 8UDFfDpAS1ruY6ZB8Fk0XkEX1JiIfJBeQa6pM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BUZBC7qDU8IMRtkNDF77zvACHiD3yuzI+StUjlPq5MqUCmla4M0aUSV9zXVnrhITiE i1GdI9zxEKh57x3Dh76IDnOb+ZsH+nek89KCZYID/gliAairunv6WFkdH53jRDIbl5w3 W7a8Dec7EX7tXr4nq03PIJNAHKLjc+mgIzuTg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.24 with SMTP id i24mr2676060bka.2.1255125052700; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:50:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACFA373.608@comcast.net> References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> <4ACFA373.608@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:50:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jayton Garnett To: Allen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:50:55 -0000 Please do I'd be interested too see if it fries the BIOS or hard drive geom on the drives ROM's ;) heck if you send it to me I'd try it out on my old compaq (P2) & a old 4Gb drive I have. Recently I've been installing FreeBSD on flash drives and Windows 7 can not see the FreeBSD partition and it completely fools Windows into thinking it's only a 3Gb drive, I guess this could be the same for older fdisk utils. I tried out some of these viruses that 'burn' your hard drive and at most they corrupted the partition and I'd have to fdisk again. Jay > Anyway, the only one I hadn't thought of was the geom part. I was thinking > about finding an old crap drive and putting Windows 95 on it to try out that > floppy again and see if now I could fix it since my skills in computing have > grown quite a lot since that time. > > -Allen > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 22:44:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51F11065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abhoriel@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3F58FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so1480725ewy.43 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:44:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WSrZmDEOTkKewoMn8ps09cgJjrlhX34by3YkFrsslOA=; b=yCQdWZYNoTOP2cyWISrrtxJlMBj6wA4eSmsYUzxrsvsNmMHT+Xi1xyIETXx2OyIg96 7HVUVcSd6P7W8TtfOqDGrEZYjNJ9eYLxzV3+2xwuLaSNhW/5YTK8GcO5t/XfJMEg54eZ vBpzkpbWQTMM01ndEIcMDwg4w0J9UNqBvuRAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=V44USbPTbNjc052SKhSaJDDp0mqf2IuNhkjM7Pd2mrL59AHlqpKc0S9fAyAo3iymCx t7UVIqvOW4HU8CBlLkUN7Z+RB+QR5BDu/88lnl6fJzBKhux4ZS5rYy+5y9vwhnkp8vTv YuKD0iOSQvGwfWWvvQzIsXbdHCZgLKcn9f5jg= Received: by 10.216.93.15 with SMTP id k15mr1021613wef.103.1255126629056; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.69? (94-193-126-66.zone7.bethere.co.uk [94.193.126.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm315643gvf.29.2009.10.09.15.17.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:17:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Abhoriel To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> References: <4ACC7CE0.8070801@comcast.net> <4ACE5B3B.2050902@daleco.biz> <4ACE9098.3040602@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:16:59 +0000 Message-Id: <1255130219.12416.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD text based games - Dungeoncrawl - My test box X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: abhoriel@googlemail.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:44:02 -0000 On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 21:23 -0400, Allen wrote: > Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > christopher floess wrote: > > > > > >> All in exchange for taking someones "trash". > > > > Indeed, you can run a piece of junk computer on FreeBSD > > and do things Windows never could ... well, I shouldn't > > say never, but it can't now, unless you're still willing > > to install 3.1 from floppy or Win95 from the 14th-generation > > CD-R copy of your original from 14 years ago. > > I wasn't around for those days... Heh, I have a fairly pristine copy of > Windows 95 and two copies of Windows 98. They're in good condition > because when I got my VERY first computer, my Mom bought it from my > Uncle, it was running Windows 95, had I think a 133 MHz CPU, and like 32 > MBs RAM, but I'm not even sure... This was September of 1999. > > I know the month and year I got my first Computer, because I had started > using it, got hooked on the idea of a machine I controlled, and two > weeks after getting it, without manuals to read, without help, I started > screwing with it until I figured it out. > > Some people who know me think and say "How is it you can fix any > computer no matter what it's running, without a manual, without > classes... And you seem to understand how your fix worked?" and it's > because the night I started, I still remember opening Microsoft Word, > sitting there for two hours screwing with buttons on it, and then > figuring out "OK, I highlight the text, and THEN press that "B" and then > it's in Bold.. Ahh OK!" And then going from there. The next night I > started messing with Explorer, and saw all the files and so on, and got > how to move files around. I was lucky enough not to try system files. I > just used dummy files. > > A week later, I was done with everything in the start menu except this > "weird little box called MS-DOS prompt" which didn't seem to have many > buttons, and typing stuff didn't help because it just said bad something > or other"... Yea lol I know, dumb. Hadn't ever seen a command line > before so cut me SOME slack though ;) You have to understand that before > this, I had not ever touched any computer except for an AppleII for 5 > minutes at school when I was like 4. So I literally had only touchbed a > computer for 5 minutes before this and it was an Apple II I knew nothing > about. > > On week two, I had learned what online meant, and "accidentally" watched > my Uncle type in his Prodigy password to go online. > > He left for a week and I had un-restricted access. I still thought > "Restart your computer" meant restarting it from scratch and I'd lose > all programs, so I always shut it down and turned it back on after an > installation, which I figured out myself too. So I wasn't by any means > good at it. > > I saw the Prodigy home page and got online for the first time one > afternoon, and thought "Wow.... This thing has neat pictures of Pamela > Anderson" lol... Hey, I'm a German American and damn proud of that, we > like nudity right? lol. And for a 17 year old punk rocker this was a new > experience and I loved it. > > On week two of having a computer, I signed up for an account on Bolt.com > and started learning what a social networking site did, and since they > always said "this person joined on this date" that's how I knew when I > got a computer; I had memorized it. So, I've had a computer since > September of 1999, and within 6 months, I screwed up the machine bad by > opening something by accident. > > See, within a few months, I learned what Computer Security meant. The > idea someone could control a computer from somewhere else, grabbed me > hard.I LOVED the idea of security in computers. I started slow by seeing > what those weird DoS tools were, and thought "OK, annoying, but the idea > is interesting" and then I started a virus collection because I didn't > collect baseball cards and every boy needs a hobby ;) > > That would seal the fate of that PC. A friend I had met who was into > this stuff too, said he found some great ones for my collection, and I > grabbed a floppy disk to store them on, and he was like "by the way, one > of these isn't Zipped, be careful" and I'm like "OK man".... > > I was a little side tracked by porn at the moment, and when I went to > close a Window that had all my new viruses on it, I for some reason > Double Clicked on the one he warned me about.... > > OK, just for the record, I was just collecting these. I wasn't infecting > a Company or something, I just thought the idea of them was kind of > neat, so I collected them. Just making sure no one thinks I was one of > "those" kids. > > Now, this thing turned out not to be a virus at all. Instead, it turned > into the ONLY ONLY ONLY .exe I've EVER come across that does PHYSICAL > damage to a machine.... I'm in no way kidding. > > I saw what I had done fast.... I had went to close the window and > accidentally double clicked on it instead and instantly hit for the > power switch to shut the machine off.... It was to late though. I saw a > DOS Prompt come up saying something or other, and when I turned the > machine back on, it wouldn't even boot. > > This machine ran Windows 95, had a lot of MP3s, and some movies and > pics. When that happened, I couldn't even get Windows 3.1 to install. > > A friend and I worked on it all the time, and I was shocked. I couldn't > do anything.... I managed to install PC-DOS on this thing, and then when > I tried to install Windows 3.1, it said the drive wasn't big enough! > > I the next day, went and bought my first paidfor computer, and used it > insted which I still have, but the fact that later in life when I > started using Linux, about a year later, I tried again to install Linux > on the drive that thing killed. > > Linux wouldn't install either, it said the drive was screwed up and > couldn't even fix it except for a small DOS partition which was like, a > few MBs. > > I remember shutting the power off before it finished running, but it was > FAST, and this thing actually killed somehow a portion of a disk drive, > and had it run all the way probably wouldn't have allowed DOS either. > > Fdisk couldn't even work on it. I was literally shocked. > > 9 years later, I can still remember it, and I STILL have the floppy disk > I copied all that stuff too he sent me that night. And yea, I STILL have > that executable that destroyed my first PC lol. I didn't know about > hardware at the time so the fact that a new drive would have been a > better fix didn't cross my mind until it was too late and I had given > the thing to a friend's Dad. > > To this day I don't know what's on that thing, and yes, I've popped the > floppy in since then to look, and saw all those olden days of my later > teen years sitting there... And the thing that ripped up the disk drive, > which I've now zipped up and made a tarball just in case lol. > > I still have it, and friends have asked for a copy, and haven't ever > figured it out either how it did all that. > > > > > Oh, and games. It's like heroin. Don't start, or > > your life gets sucked into the monitor ;-) > > > > Thanks, Java, for six months of wasted life over the last > > 5 years. > > Java isn't Heroin, it's Crack ;) > > > Kevin Kinsey > > ________________ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Viruses which flash your BIOS have been done before, and therefore effectively damage hardware. As for your disk, try filling it with 0s and then start again. Jonathan