From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 7 13:40:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3841D106568C for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184AF8FC24 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n57De2K5003082 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:40:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n57De2BW003081; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:40:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:40:02 GMT Message-Id: <200906071340.n57De2BW003081@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Glen Barber Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Glen Barber List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:40:04 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/135316; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Glen Barber To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:33:04 -0400 --001636c5b31f4de686046bc22af0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is a .sgml patch. 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Please try resending using different settings / mail account - if all else fails send directly to me in a gzipped file. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 7 14:20:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501DA1065670 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240788FC1D for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n57EK596032033 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n57EK52s032032; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:05 GMT Message-Id: <200906071420.n57EK52s032032@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Glen Barber Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Glen Barber List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:20:06 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/135316; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Glen Barber To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org,glen.j.barber@gmail.com Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:53:08 -0400 Good ol' Gmail destroyed my patch. Hopefully this one will come out a little better. -- Glen Barber --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails/chapter.sgml.orig 2009-06-07 09:09:11.000000000 -0400 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails/chapter.sgml 2009-06-07 09:22:32.000000000 -0400 @@ -242,12 +242,25 @@ &prompt.root; setenv D /here/is/the/jail &prompt.root; mkdir -p $D &prompt.root; cd /usr/src -&prompt.root; make world DESTDIR=$D +&prompt.root; make buildworld +&prompt.root; make installworld DESTDIR=$D &prompt.root; cd etc/ This step is not required on &os; 6.0 and later. &prompt.root; make distribution DESTDIR=$D &prompt.root; mount -t devfs devfs $D/dev + If you have already rebuilt your userland and kernel using make world or +make buildworld, you can skip the buildworld process and install your existing userland into a new jail. + + &prompt.root; setenv D /here/is/the/jail +&prompt.root; mkdir -p $D +&prompt.root; cd /usr/src +&prompt.root; make installworld DESTDIR=$D +&prompt.root; cd etc/ This step +is not required on &os; 6.0 and later. +&prompt.root; make distribution DESTDIR=$D +&prompt.root; mount -t devfs devfs $D/dev + Selecting a location for a jail is the best starting point. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 7 14:20:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237441065672 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1197F8FC20 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n57EK7Cx032076 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n57EK7sV032075; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:20:07 GMT Message-Id: <200906071420.n57EK7sV032075@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Manolis Kiagias Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Manolis Kiagias List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:20:08 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/135316; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Manolis Kiagias To: Glen Barber , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:57:26 +0300 Glen Barber wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/135316; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Glen Barber > To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to > jails-build.html > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:33:04 -0400 > > --001636c5b31f4de686046bc22af0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Attached is a .sgml patch. > > Thanks! > > Unfortunately it seems the mailer messed this up. Please try resending using different settings / mail account - if all else fails send directly to me in a gzipped file. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 7 16:02:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B05106564A; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manolis@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBE28FC21; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manolis@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (manolis@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n57G2duq014207; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:02:39 GMT (envelope-from manolis@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from manolis@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n57G2d3x014203; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:02:39 GMT (envelope-from manolis) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:02:39 GMT Message-Id: <200906071602.n57G2d3x014203@freefall.freebsd.org> To: manolis@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, manolis@FreeBSD.org From: manolis@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135316: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:02:40 -0000 Synopsis: [patch][doc] Add 'make installworld' section to jails-build.html Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->manolis Responsible-Changed-By: manolis Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jun 7 16:01:45 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: I will handle this one http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=135316 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 03:20:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53C6106564A; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp4.clear.net.nz (smtp4.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0688FC0C; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz) Received: from ux420.paradise.net.nz (www-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.150]) by smtp4.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id <0KKW00FLGGILVQ20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:57 +1200 (NZST) Received: by ux420.paradise.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 30) id 2B137CE4; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:57 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:57 +1200 (NZST) From: richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz X-Originating-IP: 203.167.190.49 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <1244430237.4a2c7f9d23776@www.paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7 Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: jail (8) - minor wording error on man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:20:04 -0000 Under Jails and File Systems section - last sentence of that paragraph: One would need to use one file system per jail to make this working. Should end with "work" not "working" - so ... One would need to use one file system per jail to make this work. Found at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=jail&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE&format=html Thanks. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 03:20:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53C6106564A; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp4.clear.net.nz (smtp4.clear.net.nz [203.97.37.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0688FC0C; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz) Received: from ux420.paradise.net.nz (www-1.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.150]) by smtp4.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id <0KKW00FLGGILVQ20@smtp4.clear.net.nz>; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:57 +1200 (NZST) Received: by ux420.paradise.net.nz (Postfix, from userid 30) id 2B137CE4; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:57 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:03:57 +1200 (NZST) From: richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz X-Originating-IP: 203.167.190.49 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <1244430237.4a2c7f9d23776@www.paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7 Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: jail (8) - minor wording error on man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:20:04 -0000 Under Jails and File Systems section - last sentence of that paragraph: One would need to use one file system per jail to make this working. Should end with "work" not "working" - so ... One would need to use one file system per jail to make this work. Found at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=jail&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE&format=html Thanks. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 03:39:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C801065686 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629FC8FC0A for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so1289533rvb.43 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LwciYpn+xSvG5LE4zcs5P3EduocC+ROypaFivpJ5OdY=; b=RjN17mIiQMh05rDj6lMOZyjPNx2KRs74ewcafAbD9m2rNLcvaKf2BXfGrKPjsHspFm rOXBUbx3aoUeJpqTracpDjxTg0Mbhr3ydEtSljXKttDUVaW5ELqeqT80AsweZQpSBr73 7EVKSVjdnQj0N2cyNl6sQf3e7JeCURyIQ4L5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q2tds7eDMhSO/Hg336YJ4nZSltd+Ug3fjw5AvbC64pM9QEnwn3GgVYRfZMfS9EZR7n 7cVNaQEKTp5jNg2FUoZZgY/L/RL7l5dyxo6+Gusiu0wE4hrm8WTr6rzeGFWFCmXV9q95 9Afgbwqwh/07osb7Q7bIL04KpiBoyjgIv7twU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.186.15 with SMTP id j15mr2085676wff.205.1244432369763; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1244430237.4a2c7f9d23776@www.paradise.net.nz> References: <1244430237.4a2c7f9d23776@www.paradise.net.nz> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:09:29 +0530 Message-ID: <84dead720906072039y52efb63ehce2b67ceb92dd5c9@mail.gmail.com> From: Joseph Koshy To: richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail (8) - minor wording error on man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:39:30 -0000 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM, wrote: > Under Jails and File Systems section - last sentence of that paragraph: > > One would need to use one file system per jail to make this working. > > Should end with "work" not "working" - so ... > > One would need to use one file system per jail to make this work. > > Found at > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=jail&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE&format=html > > Thanks. Fixed in -current (SVN #193676). Thank you for the bug report. Koshy From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 04:08:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559501065672 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 04:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC4F8FC08 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 04:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joseph.koshy@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1033832wfg.7 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:08:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LwciYpn+xSvG5LE4zcs5P3EduocC+ROypaFivpJ5OdY=; b=RjN17mIiQMh05rDj6lMOZyjPNx2KRs74ewcafAbD9m2rNLcvaKf2BXfGrKPjsHspFm rOXBUbx3aoUeJpqTracpDjxTg0Mbhr3ydEtSljXKttDUVaW5ELqeqT80AsweZQpSBr73 7EVKSVjdnQj0N2cyNl6sQf3e7JeCURyIQ4L5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q2tds7eDMhSO/Hg336YJ4nZSltd+Ug3fjw5AvbC64pM9QEnwn3GgVYRfZMfS9EZR7n 7cVNaQEKTp5jNg2FUoZZgY/L/RL7l5dyxo6+Gusiu0wE4hrm8WTr6rzeGFWFCmXV9q95 9Afgbwqwh/07osb7Q7bIL04KpiBoyjgIv7twU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.186.15 with SMTP id j15mr2085676wff.205.1244432369763; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1244430237.4a2c7f9d23776@www.paradise.net.nz> References: <1244430237.4a2c7f9d23776@www.paradise.net.nz> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:09:29 +0530 Message-ID: <84dead720906072039y52efb63ehce2b67ceb92dd5c9@mail.gmail.com> From: Joseph Koshy To: richardtoohey@paradise.net.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jail (8) - minor wording error on man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:08:53 -0000 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM, wrote: > Under Jails and File Systems section - last sentence of that paragraph: > > One would need to use one file system per jail to make this working. > > Should end with "work" not "working" - so ... > > One would need to use one file system per jail to make this work. > > Found at > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=jail&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE&format=html > > Thanks. Fixed in -current (SVN #193676). Thank you for the bug report. Koshy From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 10:53:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04404106564A for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdusb@bindone.de) Received: from mail.bindone.de (mail.bindone.de [80.190.134.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BAAA8FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdusb@bindone.de) Received: (qmail 98452 invoked by uid 89); 8 Jun 2009 10:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ufo.bindone.de) (mg@bindone.de@87.152.191.228) by mail.bindone.de with ESMTPA; 8 Jun 2009 10:26:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4A2CE74E.9020309@bindone.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:26:22 +0200 From: Michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17pre (X11/20090202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Request for errate notice on igb(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:53:08 -0000 Hello Doc-Team, I would like to request an errata notice on igb(4). Without disabling lro, ip forwarding results in horrible performance (at least with onboard Intel 82575EB Dual-Port Gigabit Ethernet Controllers). As a workaround lro can be disabled, but this needs to be done on reboot (sysctl.conf), tuning the sysctls it after interfaces have been activated has no effect. See also my email "Bug in igb driver" and the mail "[igb] low speed routing between two igb interfaces" a few days later (kern/135222). This problem happens on 7.1-RELEASE, 7.2-RELEASE, 7-STABLE and 8-CURRENT. I'm writing you directly, because nobody at the bugs mailing list thinks this problem needs to be adressed - I totally disagree, ecause these adapters are very common and a small errata noticed would've saved us days of frustration (and potentially will others as well). cheers Michael --- Suggested errata notice (something similar): An issue was found in the igb(4) driver that causes desastrous performance when FreeBSD acts as a gateway (ip forwarding enabled) and LRO (large receive offloading) is enabled (which is the default setting). As a workaround, disable LRO by adding the following lines to /etc/sysctl.conf: dev.igb.0.enable_lro=0 dev.igb.1.enable_lro=0 and reboot. ------- My Mail on freebsd-bugs Jun 2nd 2009 Hello, we encountered problems using igb driver on a Supermicro dual quad-core system (X7DWU). It features an Intel Gigabit dual port controller (82575). The IP forwarding performance was extremely bad (5 kb/s up to 50 kb/s) until we disabled Large Receive Offloading in /etc/sysctl.conf: dev.igb.0.enable_lro=0 dev.igb.1.enable_lro=0 (changing it using ifconfig -lro and down/up the interfaces didn't help). With the systctl values set as shown above, we get the expected performance ob 50-60 MB/s. We tested this on 7.1-RELEASE, 7.2-RELEASE and 7-STABLE. Right now we're installing 8-CURRENT on the machine to see if it makes a difference. It think it would be worthwhile to list this issue in the 7.2 release errata section (that would've saved us a significant amount of time :) . Cheers Michael ------ Mail thread on kern/135222 The following reply was made to PR kern/135222; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael To: Mishustin Andrew <1@hnt.ru> Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kern/135222: [igb] low speed routing between two igb interfaces Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:41:22 +0200 Hello Andrew, look at my post "Bug in igb driver" from two days ago. We had exactly the same issues using this adapter (and presumambly the same board, your bug description matches 100% our setup :) The following should fix those issues: echo "dev.igb.0.enable_lro=0" >>/etc/sysctl.conf echo "dev.igb.1.enable_lro=0" >>/etc/sysctl.conf reboot (this disabled large receive offloading - tuning this while the machine is running has no effect). I suggested putting this into the release errata, but got no feedback on this request so far. cheers Michael Mishustin Andrew wrote: >> Number: 135222 >> Category: kern >> Synopsis: [igb] low speed routing between two igb interfaces >> Confidential: no >> Severity: serious >> Priority: medium >> Responsible: freebsd-bugs >> State: open >> Quarter: >> Keywords: >> Date-Required: >> Class: sw-bug >> Submitter-Id: current-users >> Arrival-Date: Wed Jun 03 18:30:01 UTC 2009 >> Closed-Date: >> Last-Modified: >> Originator: Mishustin Andrew >> Release: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE amd64, FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE amd64 >> Organization: > HNT >> Environment: > FreeBSD test.hnt 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #12: Thu Apr 30 18:28:15 MSD 20 > 09 admin@test.hnt:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64 >> Description: > I made a FreeBSD multiprocesor server to act as simple gateway. > It use onboard Intel 82575EB Dual-Port Gigabit Ethernet Controller. > I observe traffic speed near 400 Kbit/s. > I test both interfaces separately - > ftp client work at speed near 1 Gbit/s in both directions. > Then I change NIC to old Intel "em" NIC - gateway work at speed near 1 Gbit/s. > > Looks like a bug in igb driver have an effect upon forwarded traffic. > > If you try > hw.igb.enable_aim=0 > The speed is near 1 Mbit/s > > hw.igb.rxd, hw.igb.txd, "ifconfig -tso" has no effect. > > Nothing in messages.log > > netstat -m > 516/1674/2190 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) > 515/927/1442/66560 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 515/893 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) > 0/44/44/33280 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/16640 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/8320 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 1159K/2448K/3607K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) > 0/0/0 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max) > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > I use only IPv4 traffic. > >> How-To-Repeat: > On machine with two igb interfaces > use rc.conf like this: > > hostname="test.test" > gateway_enable="YES" > ifconfig_igb0="inet 10.10.10.1/24" > ifconfig_igb1="inet 10.10.11.1/24" > > And try create heavy traffic between two networks. >> Fix: > > >> Release-Note: >> Audit-Trail: >> Unformatted: > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-bugs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-bugs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-bugs To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-bugs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --- Feedback received by M. Andrew (outside of the mailing list) Hello Michael, Thank you. It's working. I consider it necessary to put this into the release errata. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 10:55:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B96A106566C; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEFC8FC0C; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (pD9E2E3AC.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.227.172]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EEFA844024; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:39:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E75429B5A5; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:38:57 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1244457537; bh=hEfTnDwv25ZyPW65ANUgaJC1xoMdCcUiJ+UNBzKlYgA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nWVwBgeLlpRYoJEafMBQCX/86DRY6IIwIMJjkij13/3J5uQ5fcT2zpeNa3Y7wSt6w 14+ExfdA9zvXVZY/F8yIxaMIFfw3oy9QR3PZaeBxM/T+FYV3+ulQEVW7eeT8UrGicZ itB+ofSomF3QbXvO7sBOj+L+kvDVNWBgaKvDNfJfoFjrf2x4xH81UawJu/ItqOLOqv U9PIM0lSKvd1xJcIF4sDfqQu6vOccFSSiyqbAIoO2AGQgmDs/jCoZzwV6a/nzvctIM M38DAB+Pqg0gjaajihVkpWQdWvdRqVCLdMa/K7Yn+4sL9Wp9WiCo649r8xwkupQ6I1 ab/FwPEEempVQ== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n58Acu13025894; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:38:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:38:56 +0200 Message-ID: <20090608123856.570933oz30orz0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:38:56 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Edwin Groothuis References: <200906080533.n585X9ao017209@svn.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200906080533.n585X9ao017209@svn.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.3.3 / FreeBSD-8.0 X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 3EEFA844024.4BC2D X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.637, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, BR_SPAMMER_URI 2.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, TW_SV 0.08) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1245062346.11012@3XJeMDVRHufkqCI1HfO2xg X-EBL-Spam-Status: No Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r193688 - head/share/timedef X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:55:33 -0000 Quoting Edwin Groothuis (from Mon, 8 Jun 2009 05:33:09 +0000 (UTC)): > Author: edwin > Date: Mon Jun 8 05:33:08 2009 > New Revision: 193688 > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/193688 > > Log: > [patch] [locale] German locales use old %d.%m.%y date format > instead of newer ISO date > > From the submitter: > > DIN 5008 (German norm for text processing) defines the old date > format (%d.%m.%Y) to be obsolete and to be used only, if unambigous. > In international communications the new format (%Y-%m-%d) is now > required and FreeBSD should respect this. What does this mean? Does 'date' with the de_DE locate print out Y-m-d instead of d.m.Y now? This would look strange to me, as this is not used in normal daily communications. The government sends letters with dates in d.m.Y, newspapers have d.m.Y, and the daily news in the TV also display d.m.Y. The text above specifies that this seems to be intended for international communications. When I set de_DE in my locale for my user, this is not international communication, it's more like "I want to see text/dates in my local language/conventions". As the PR is from 2004, and we have 2009 now, I'm not sure if this change is correct. I haven't read the corresponding standards/documents. > PR: conf/72076 > Submitted by: Peter Wullinger > MFC after: 1 week I think you should not MFC this so fast. It may be better to discuss this with our German doc people (docs@ CCed), maybe this needs to be backed out. Bye, Alexander. -- "I don't care how many eyes a man has... as long as it's less than five." -Leela http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 11:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926341065674 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F39B8FC17 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n58B66v4019701 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n58B65po019697 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:06:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:06:05 GMT Message-Id: <200906081106.n58B65po019697@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:06:06 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/135165 doc [patch] make(1) fixes: punctuation, typos, tweaks o docs/134376 doc pthread(3): pthread manpages don't mention that PTHREA o docs/134226 doc /usr/share/examples/ftpd/ftpd.conf does not exist. o docs/134222 doc installation failure of japanese docs o docs/134127 doc [patch] ip6(4) manual does not contain proper referenc o docs/134123 doc The RUNQUEUE(9) man page is out of date o docs/134074 doc [patch] locking.9 man page slight enhancements o docs/133765 doc setfib(2) man page section o docs/133567 doc [patch] doc/Makefile switch to csup o docs/133245 doc french handbook 27.3.5 amd.map amd.conf o docs/133228 doc handbook 23.3.5 screenmap section is confusing o docs/133186 doc powerd(8) man page errors o docs/133118 doc [patch] Error in getopt (1) manual EXAMPLES section o docs/133110 doc [patch] Typo corrections for /usr/src/UPDATING o docs/132959 doc description mismatches on xterm/termcap, fortune/freeb o docs/132884 doc [request] No manpage for SYSINIT and SYSUNINIT o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132525 doc [PATCH] Fix documentation for atapicam(4) and umass(4) o docs/132311 doc [patch] man5/nsmb.conf.5 o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132193 doc [patch] description in the malo(4) manpage incorrect o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/132113 doc [handbook] Update handbook jails creation o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131684 doc [patch] articles/linux-comparison: replace Addenda by o docs/131590 doc [patch] whitespace-only change of developers-handbook/ o docs/131562 doc [patch] groff(1): don't corrupt man pages by replacing o docs/130895 doc No man page installed for padlock(4) on amd64 sytstem o docs/130742 doc [patch] articles/geom-class: russian translation is mi o docs/130530 doc atacontrol(8) does not mention SATA300 mode (or SATA15 o docs/130364 doc Man page for top needs explanation of CPU states o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129196 doc Inconsistent errno in strtol() o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128524 doc No geom documentation for loading gjournal(8) o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages o docs/127908 doc [patch] readdir(3) error documentation s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented o docs/125921 doc lpd(8) talks about blocks in minfree while it is KB in o docs/125751 doc man 3 pthread_getschedparam section ERRORS incomplete f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121871 doc ftpd does not interpret configuration files as documen o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification o docs/121565 doc dhcp-options(5) manpage incorrectly formatted omitting s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o bin/121424 doc [patch] [ipfw] Rectify ambiguous English in manual o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120539 doc Inconsistent ipfw's man page o docs/120456 doc ath(4) needs to specify requirement on wlan_scan_sta o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting a docs/119536 doc a few typos in French handbook (basics) o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/118332 doc man page for top does not describe STATE column wait e o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/118020 doc ipfilter(4): man pages query for man 4 ipfilter return o docs/117747 doc 'break' system call needs a man page o docs/116480 doc sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies s o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101464 doc sync ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98759 doc [patch] sbp_targ(4) man page missing reference to devi o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91174 doc [REQUEST] Handbook: Addition of Oracle 9i installation o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/63570 doc [patch] Language cleanup for the Handbook's DNS sectio o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 143 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 12:23:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153EE106566B for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trax@clubnix.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB628FC13 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trax@clubnix.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1679A13690E for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:06:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A8802152C for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:06:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.81.218] (unknown [147.215.81.218]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0315F2152C for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:06:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A2D0DB8.8040007@clubnix.fr> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:10:16 +0200 From: Omar Givernaud Organization: clubnix User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: 404 Not Found X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: trax@clubnix.fr List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:23:49 -0000 Hello, some dead links on http://www.freebsd.org/fr/where.html for not installation (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/installation.html) Cordially Omar Givernaud (trax) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 8 13:10:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201551065701 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EFC8FC55 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n58DAQvS031930; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:10:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n58DAhlG003193; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:10:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n58DAhaV003192; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:10:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:10:43 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Omar Givernaud Message-ID: <20090608131043.GD1044@gothic.blackend.org> References: <4A2D0DB8.8040007@clubnix.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A2D0DB8.8040007@clubnix.fr> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 404 Not Found X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:10:35 -0000 On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 03:10:16PM +0200, Omar Givernaud wrote: > Hello, > > > some dead links on http://www.freebsd.org/fr/where.html for not > installation (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/installation.html) > Thanks, I noted it. I'll update this page ASAP. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 9 05:31:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F631106566B for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 05:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (ppp113-58.static.internode.on.net [150.101.113.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114628FC12 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 05:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 934B0450A6; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:11:50 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:11:50 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: docs@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090609051150.GE98804@mavetju.org> References: <200906080533.n585X9ao017209@svn.freebsd.org> <20090608123856.570933oz30orz0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090608123856.570933oz30orz0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: svn commit: r193688 - head/share/timedef X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:31:40 -0000 On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 12:38:56PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > [patch] [locale] German locales use old %d.%m.%y date format > >instead of newer ISO date > > > > From the submitter: > > > > DIN 5008 (German norm for text processing) defines the old date > > format (%d.%m.%Y) to be obsolete and to be used only, if unambigous. > > In international communications the new format (%Y-%m-%d) is now > > required and FreeBSD should respect this. > > What does this mean? Does 'date' with the de_DE locate print out Y-m-d > instead of d.m.Y now? This would look strange to me, as this is not > used in normal daily communications. The government sends letters with > dates in d.m.Y, newspapers have d.m.Y, and the daily news in the TV > also display d.m.Y. > > The text above specifies that this seems to be intended for > international communications. When I set de_DE in my locale for my > user, this is not international communication, it's more like "I want > to see text/dates in my local language/conventions". > > As the PR is from 2004, and we have 2009 now, I'm not sure if this > change is correct. I haven't read the corresponding standards/documents. > > > PR: conf/72076 > > Submitted by: Peter Wullinger > > MFC after: 1 week > > I think you should not MFC this so fast. It may be better to discuss > this with our German doc people (docs@ CCed), maybe this needs to be > backed out. What do the German doc people think about it? Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis Website: http://www.mavetju.org/ edwin@mavetju.org Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 10 15:56:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D6C106568A for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obf@gmx.de) Received: from www83.your-server.de (www83.your-server.de [213.133.104.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5949D8FC2B for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obf@gmx.de) Received: from [213.61.69.130] (helo=[192.168.0.62]) by www83.your-server.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MEPkq-0007Cp-NG; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:30:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4A2FD18C.4090303@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:30:20 +0200 From: Oliver Fischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Groothuis References: <200906080533.n585X9ao017209@svn.freebsd.org> <20090608123856.570933oz30orz0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> <20090609051150.GE98804@mavetju.org> In-Reply-To: <20090609051150.GE98804@mavetju.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: dialog@sw-blog.net X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.95.1/9450/Wed Jun 10 15:41:08 2009) Cc: Alexander Leidinger , docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r193688 - head/share/timedef X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:56:27 -0000 Edwin Groothuis schrieb: > On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 12:38:56PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>> [patch] [locale] German locales use old %d.%m.%y date format >>> instead of newer ISO date >>> >>> From the submitter: >>> >>> DIN 5008 (German norm for text processing) defines the old date >>> format (%d.%m.%Y) to be obsolete and to be used only, if unambigous. >>> In international communications the new format (%Y-%m-%d) is now >>> required and FreeBSD should respect this. > > What do the German doc people think about it? I share Alexanders opinion. In daily communication the normal date format is still %d.%m.%Y and I am sure, it will remain for nearly ever ;-) Oliver From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 10 16:21:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: docs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FDF10656EB for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BED88FC16 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.116] ([93.216.131.137]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n5AFxwup098175 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:59:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <4A2FD87C.8000905@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:59:56 +0200 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: docs@freebsd.org References: <200906080533.n585X9ao017209@svn.freebsd.org> <20090608123856.570933oz30orz0w0@webmail.leidinger.net> <20090609051150.GE98804@mavetju.org> <4A2FD18C.4090303@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4A2FD18C.4090303@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: svn commit: r193688 - head/share/timedef X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:21:11 -0000 Oliver Fischer wrote: > Edwin Groothuis wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 12:38:56PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>>> [patch] [locale] German locales use old %d.%m.%y date format >>>> instead of newer ISO date >>>> >>>> From the submitter: >>>> >>>> DIN 5008 (German norm for text processing) defines the old date >>>> format (%d.%m.%Y) to be obsolete and to be used only, if unambigous. >>>> In international communications the new format (%Y-%m-%d) is now >>>> required and FreeBSD should respect this. >> What do the German doc people think about it? > > I share Alexanders opinion. In daily communication the normal date > format is still %d.%m.%Y and I am sure, it will remain for nearly ever ;-) > > Oliver +1 nobody uses that format and I have never seen that. - Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 11 12:40:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019FA106567C for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08C58FC2B for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5BCe3Xm071402 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:40:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5BCe3K2071401; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:40:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:40:03 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200906111240.n5BCe3K2071401@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Jonathan McKeown Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A8A106566B for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DE08FC0A for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5BCZn5g012043 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5BCZnjd012042; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:49 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200906111235.n5BCZnjd012042@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:49 GMT From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/135475: [patch] jot(1) manpage and behaviour differ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:40:04 -0000 >Number: 135475 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] jot(1) manpage and behaviour differ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jun 11 12:40:03 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jonathan McKeown >Release: 7.1-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD vorkosigan.ru.ac.za 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: The way jot(1) defaults missing arguments doesn't match the behaviour described in the manpage, which states that with fewer than 3 arguments missing values are supplied from left to right. In fact, with one or two arguments, the last (s which is step size or seed) defaults to 1 (or -1 if begin and end specify a descending range), and then omitted arguments are set to default starting with the leftmost until three arguments are available. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: I have attached a patch to the manpage. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 11 13:10:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EC8106566C for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D758FC1F for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5BDA3uY092263 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5BDA3Q8092262; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:03 GMT Message-Id: <200906111310.n5BDA3Q8092262@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Jonathan McKeown Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135475: [patch] jot(1) manpage and behaviour differ X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jonathan McKeown List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:10:03 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/135475; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jonathan McKeown To: bug-followup@freebsd.org, j.mckeown@ru.ac.za Cc: Subject: Re: docs/135475: [patch] jot(1) manpage and behaviour differ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:03:35 +0200 --Boundary-00=_nCQMKdGOK1vWC9O Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And here's the patch. --Boundary-00=_nCQMKdGOK1vWC9O Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso 8859-15"; name="jotdiff.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jotdiff.txt" --- - 2009-06-11 14:24:58.324200084 +0200 +++ jot.1 2009-06-11 14:12:28.000000000 +0200 @@ -112,14 +112,15 @@ If four are specified and the given and computed values of .Ar reps conflict, the lower value is used. -If fewer than three are specified, defaults are assigned -left to right, except for +If one or two are specified, defaults are assigned +starting with .Ar s , -which assumes a default of 1 or -1 if both +which assumes a default of 1 (or -1 if .Ar begin and .Ar end -are given. +specify a descending range), and then working from the +leftmost omitted argument until three arguments are set. .Pp Defaults for the four arguments are, respectively, 100, 1, 100, and 1, except that when random data are requested, --Boundary-00=_nCQMKdGOK1vWC9O-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 12 10:42:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F00106564A for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6214A8FC16 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1114960qwe.7 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:42:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cejyMa3QKb8f/tU4CutHcUnlRs4JunBN7HbW1jDlIZA=; b=KDnz1Aq+dRwXGT4ZaLFx+O+K0+b0qvU9cKVcx/VC7GA5rIEjFKFpJ0O8DQav15vQqC ynmTnMIor2z2vY8O60Ms2bPxJ8Q1JXr6rs9w+SGJtPdpHFjrMVUTVRH62Gec5nAP8jCa TnF3HlOU2IfMmTaPfPiip0etdNknUrCko24aI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E4dI1tC5DP1C7ICb5qCktsFrxVX3MTxdoDpdM9CyHkmlteRVZJG3NfMSyOst9apavt mh4SJTdR8Hiv7WJtY4mlFMTHicqG60RPaa1bv9PkMoN1qrj1DqfXn28ShwkaiBcyiv6i iPjNSIPYAwCD/4YD0QsW4RUXoEJwRJijU8OtQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: r.c.ladan@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.95.194 with SMTP id e2mr2921715vcn.60.1244803342734; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:42:22 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 98e0a1e1471f2e4e Message-ID: From: Rene Ladan To: "doc@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: [rfc] convert y2kbug page into article X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:42:23 -0000 Hi, since the year 2000 has long passed, I was thinking about moving the y2k pa= ge at http://www.freebsd.org/y2kbug.html out of the way and maybe convert it into an article (to preserve history, just like the 5-roadmap article). The latter would require repo-copies. The current list of references to the source file, www/en/y2kbug.sgml is at http://people.freebsd.org/~rene/y2kbug.txt This list does not include references pointing to translated versions of the page. Comments? Ren=E9 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 12 11:30:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F45106566B for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from labt3ch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f212.google.com (mail-ew0-f212.google.com [209.85.219.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8909D8FC19 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from labt3ch@gmail.com) Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so2394936ewy.43 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:30:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pM3FQH/hD06fxCUfch5WHORAJten0dzCB1r6S7rbWGA=; b=u7fNzeuYtGKerRlbWjglUDa+FmHaRD8Nn3XG/ZRb2x9vMh198Dw72DSsZtUcuTKbru 6ZDpQ3FWLCdKnMgw32uVfR4nL2BHTh3CP0vihY2PDE1blI4AslbHz7YOba+wGDoJuRbz 1ShdX86GBMBdjqI/hSN9SrX1KfQvtAKq84Kww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ld2xG3KVSf+qlZZtXVSRe4aIE2ZZnjoA7VIsRFccIH5+NomkcMC1eve71piWh8wUne h6xD1MXpPgLdtiRsZJu4jNoHxn8HBixhq+ziKH5VV909BOyISGEQGI46SP3S7Tdj8agr iKslncztTS4QnOTJG0Vyi+7dRA7J6UJanKvoM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.128.17 with SMTP id a17mr676765ebd.51.1244804290123; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:58:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: Epita Li To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Handbook : 31.7.2.7.1 Using make world to populate root X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:30:50 -0000 Hi Been using the very handy handbook to set up my first diskless install, found that after "cd /usr/src; make buildworld && make buildkernel" completed correctly that "cd /usr/src/etc; make distribution" failed with error code 64. Checking the mailing archives I found this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-May/016659.html . Should the extra line "make distrib-dirs" be included in the guide, after using it make distribution completed sucessfully. Finding the handbook to be very useful learning BSD coming from an experienced windows server background! E Li From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 12 17:40:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A001065672 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C388FC0A for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5CHe13B029972 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5CHe1ug029971; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200906121740.n5CHe1ug029971@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Best Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CC1106564A for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED9F8FC24 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5CHYNQh023435 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:23 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5CHYNil023434; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:23 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200906121734.n5CHYNil023434@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:23 GMT From: Alexander Best To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/135516: pax manual not mentioning chflags unawareness X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:40:02 -0000 >Number: 135516 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pax manual not mentioning chflags unawareness >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 12 17:40:01 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexander Best >Release: 8.0-CURRENT >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD moshnroll 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #54 r193846M: Fri Jun 12 00:39:20 CEST 2009 root@moshnroll:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARUNDEL i386 >Description: the pax manual page doesn't mention that pax is unaware of chflags. in fact it describes the switch `-p e` as `Preserve everything'. the manual page should explicitly mention paxes unawareness of chflags and the description 'Preserve everything' shouldn't be used since pax only preserves user ID, group ID, file mode bits, file access time, and file modification time. cheers. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 12 21:00:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83951065673 for ; 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Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from n-kogane@syd.odn.ne.jp) Received: from cmta108.odn.ne.jp (mta108.odn.ne.jp [143.90.14.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE498FC17 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from n-kogane@syd.odn.ne.jp) Received: from vmta102.odn.ne.jp by cmta102.odn.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20090612201541757.JRVY.26560.cmta102.odn.ne.jp@mta102.odn.ne.jp> for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:15:41 +0900 Received: from emta102.odn.ne.jp by vmta102.odn.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20090612201541710.BCKT.2524.vmta102.odn.ne.jp@mta102.odn.ne.jp>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:15:41 +0900 Received: from kcesx30.koganemaru.co.jp ([143.90.90.6] [143.90.90.6]) by emta102.odn.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20090612201541616.PHFT.4625.emta102.odn.ne.jp@mta102.odn.ne.jp>; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:15:41 +0900 Received: by kcesx30.koganemaru.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 100) id 0F2AD28442; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:11:47 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090612201147.0F2AD28442@kcesx30.koganemaru.co.jp> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:11:47 +0900 (JST) From: n-kogane@syd.odn.ne.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: zml@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/135520: typos in fail.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: n-kogane@syd.odn.ne.jp List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:00:08 -0000 >Number: 135520 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typos in fail.9 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 12 21:00:07 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nobuyuki Koganemaru >Release: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: KOGANEMARU Computer Engineering Service Corporation. >Environment: System: FreeBSD kcesx35.koganemaru.co.jp 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #3: Fri May 29 23:21:44 JST 2009 root@kcesx35.koganemaru.co.jp:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: I found some typos in fail.9. .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man9/fail.9,v 1.2 2009/05/28 15:02:52 zml Exp $ 'execute' ... is not displayed. >How-To-Repeat: Do "man 9 fail". >Fix: --- fail.9.orig 2009-06-13 05:01:27.000000000 +0900 +++ fail.9 2009-06-13 05:02:05.000000000 +0900 @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ .Nm KFAIL_POINT_GOTO , .Nm fail_point , .Nm DEBUG_FP -. +.\" .Nd fail points .Sh SYNOPSIS .In sys/fail.h @@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ .Pp The operator -> can be used to express cascading terms. If you specify ->, it means that if doesn't -'execute', is evaluated. +\&'execute', is evaluated. For the purpose of this operator, the return() and print() operators are the only types that cascade. A return() term only cascades if the code executes, and a print() >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: