From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 18:30:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120BF106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustaxe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C429B8FC6B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so3668054ywh.28 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:30:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=j0yhFlJhvbMa2sIoTWqyu3OC58575rLzz8Hvsl8oU40=; b=CnKmYyxVIuqlwXz4uJM5qA554zCtDN7fYYOjwVhADuLVg0L+BjlKiKH/6by6a9JpQa PXw3bZrL2K5Ey/Lgz5e+I/WweMLLCGL3JN2ovJRNu56CarR58iicZiDz8Dac0BEdz+y0 U7SazyfM/3WxGxKDoHJsn244YCMrdanN/MhYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qs4A2/MvRDKMpyFsKR9exatvGatQwrgKlqf8i3brWifc2kdy/jr8ardFHLss2uhvzH 9d8BAVaJBfXIaGI/AdcXpFsss19qdqmwo7E6JbflG2AOMGJZafMhcR2YAfMcs+PKKVuP /Vq3TCP62toVoxjbPt/WV3wcX094JGtCPfYC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.39.6 with SMTP id r6mr2794611anj.166.1250446033821; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:07:13 -0700 Message-ID: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> From: Edu Carneiro To: doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:30:41 -0000 Hi guys, In this doc http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html, section 18.12.7, it has a reference that 'dump' is the best backup method available. However, that result is from almost 20 years ago! Has that changed or is there any updated test on the subject? Regards, Edu From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 21:24:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE26106568E; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2AF8FC68; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so718970wfg.7 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:24:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.177.13 with SMTP id z13mr532728wfe.262.1250457893762; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:24:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:24:53 -0700 Message-ID: <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> From: Murray Stokely To: Edu Carneiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:24:54 -0000 I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD. - Murray On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Edu Carneiro wrote: > Hi guys, > In this doc > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.h= tml, > section 18.12.7, =A0it has a reference that 'dump' is the best backup met= hod > available. However, that result is from almost 20 years ago! > > Has that changed or is there any updated test on the subject? > > Regards, > Edu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 21:38:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EA2106564A for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from xps.daemonology.net (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A794214EDAC for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5499 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2009 21:37:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xps.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Aug 2009 21:37:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:37:48 -0700 From: Colin Percival User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Edu Carneiro Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:38:03 -0000 Murray Stokely wrote: > I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based > backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly > variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or > other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD. Thanks for the plug. :-) There are a couple of companies listed under http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ as providing backup services (www.ahsay.com, www.exavault.com) but I don't see anything special about them aside from the fact that they presumably submitted PRs asking to be added -- to be honest, I'm not entirely certain why there is a "Commercial Vendors" page on the FreeBSD website at all when google does a much better job of finding vendors. While I'm always eager to have more people hear about tarsnap, I think putting any sort of list of vendors into the handbook would just end up as a huge mess unless there's a very clear policy about which companies get listed -- and I really can't imagine how to draw up such a policy. -- Colin Percival Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 21:46:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3DC1065690; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEDC8FC4B; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3393523yxe.3 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:46:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr4675590ybb.138.1250459167191; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:46:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:46:07 -0700 Message-ID: <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> From: Murray Stokely To: Colin Percival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Edu Carneiro Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:46:08 -0000 A fair point, and in that case perhaps a short paragraph introducing the reader to the class of cloud based online backup systems as a viable alternative to tape backup solutions in 2009, rather than listing any specific services. A final sentence could then invite the reader to peruse google or the commercial vendors page for specific services. - Murray On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Colin Percival wrote: > Murray Stokely wrote: >> I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based >> backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly >> variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or >> other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD. > > Thanks for the plug. :-) > > There are a couple of companies listed under http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ > as providing backup services (www.ahsay.com, www.exavault.com) but I don't see > anything special about them aside from the fact that they presumably submitted > PRs asking to be added -- to be honest, I'm not entirely certain why there is a > "Commercial Vendors" page on the FreeBSD website at all when google does a much > better job of finding vendors. > > While I'm always eager to have more people hear about tarsnap, I think putting > any sort of list of vendors into the handbook would just end up as a huge mess > unless there's a very clear policy about which companies get listed -- and I > really can't imagine how to draw up such a policy. > > -- > Colin Percival > Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve > Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 21:54:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CED9106568D for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from xps.daemonology.net (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D208F154793 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5680 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2009 21:54:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xps.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Aug 2009 21:54:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4A888026.8020507@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:54:46 -0700 From: Colin Percival User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:54:48 -0000 Murray Stokely wrote: > A fair point, and in that case perhaps a short paragraph introducing > the reader to the class of cloud based online backup systems as a > viable alternative to tape backup solutions in 2009, rather than > listing any specific services. Right, I think if the handbook ventures outside of discussing the tools which are built into FreeBSD, it should probably be limited to discussing the pros and cons of various *types* of tools rather than discussing specific tools. A few months ago I wrote some text at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/wiki/Backups which was an attempt to give people a framework for deciding what they should look for in a backup solution -- I don't know if it's useful, but if anyone wants to take some or all of that text for the handbook, you can consider it public domain. -- Colin Percival Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 11:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D84106568E for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657F38FC55 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7HB66cl074873 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7HB65sS074869 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:05 GMT Message-Id: <200908171106.n7HB65sS074869@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:06 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/137762 doc [handbook] proposed: mention "make delete-old" in sec o docs/137689 doc [patch] acpi_panasonic(4) sysctl variable name wrong o docs/137171 doc [patch] replacement of k8temp(4) by amdtemp(4) isn't r o docs/136918 doc [patch] grammar fixes to locking.9 o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136219 doc [patch] gnop(8) manual page bug o docs/136100 doc change FreeBSD Ports distfiles survey's url to portsco o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option o docs/136029 doc MALLOC_PRODUCTION knob should be mentioned somewhere, o docs/135999 doc Netgear GS105v3 should be added to list of switches th o docs/135676 doc FAQ About The FreeBSD Mailing Lists doesn't mention ma o docs/135520 doc [patch] typos in fail(9) o docs/135516 doc pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawareness o docs/135475 doc [patch] jot(1) manpage and behaviour differ o docs/135165 doc [patch] make(1) fixes: punctuation, typos, tweaks o docs/134376 doc pthread(3): pthread manpages don't mention that PTHREA o docs/134226 doc /usr/share/examples/ftpd/ftpd.conf does not exist. o docs/134222 doc installation failure of japanese docs o docs/134127 doc [patch] ip6(4) manual does not contain proper referenc o docs/134123 doc The RUNQUEUE(9) man page is out of date o docs/134074 doc [patch] locking.9 man page slight enhancements o docs/133765 doc setfib(2) man page section o docs/133567 doc [patch] doc/Makefile switch to csup o docs/133245 doc french handbook 27.3.5 amd.map amd.conf o docs/133228 doc handbook 23.3.5 screenmap section is confusing o docs/133186 doc [patch] powerd(8) man page errors o docs/133118 doc [patch] Error in getopt (1) manual EXAMPLES section o docs/132959 doc [patch] description mismatches on xterm/termcap, fortu o docs/132884 doc [request] No manpage for SYSINIT and SYSUNINIT o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132525 doc [PATCH] Fix documentation for atapicam(4) and umass(4) o docs/132311 doc [patch] man5/nsmb.conf.5 o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132193 doc [patch] description in the malo(4) manpage incorrect o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/132113 doc [handbook] Update handbook jails creation o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131684 doc [patch] articles/linux-comparison: replace Addenda by o docs/131590 doc [patch] whitespace-only change of developers-handbook/ o docs/130895 doc [patch] No man page installed for padlock(4) on amd64 o docs/130742 doc [patch] articles/geom-class: russian translation is mi o docs/130364 doc Man page for top needs explanation of CPU states o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128524 doc No geom documentation for loading gjournal(8) o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages o docs/127908 doc [patch] readdir(3) error documentation s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented o docs/125921 doc lpd(8) talks about blocks in minfree while it is KB in o docs/125751 doc man 3 pthread_getschedparam section ERRORS incomplete f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121871 doc ftpd does not interpret configuration files as documen o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification o docs/121565 doc dhcp-options(5) manpage incorrectly formatted omitting s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o bin/121424 doc [patch] [ipfw] Rectify ambiguous English in manual o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120539 doc Inconsistent ipfw's man page o docs/120456 doc ath(4) needs to specify requirement on wlan_scan_sta o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting a docs/119536 doc a few typos in French handbook (basics) o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/118332 doc man page for top does not describe STATE column wait e o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/118020 doc ipfilter(4): man pages query for man 4 ipfilter return o docs/117747 doc 'break' system call needs a man page o docs/116480 doc sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies s o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101464 doc sync ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98759 doc [patch] sbp_targ(4) man page missing reference to devi o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91174 doc [REQUEST] Handbook: Addition of Oracle 9i installation o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/63570 doc [patch] Language cleanup for the Handbook's DNS sectio o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 154 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 04:26:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9381F106568B; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mustaxe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347FE8FC45; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4490351yxe.3 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c8YRKgw3LkL0HyvBCLlbg0947RDG68xM1VQVHy2pPZ0=; b=Z/XpX8zk5iWdPc7giUEz3hT4DkfmmkSd/5ksnxR0sa/CwiiQMk4sIcpxD5rBcEh0Fj N6fiNehRwnORhyFF5HsUNUYrEcJxO5BgWB9Id5wKQcXYBrifmt9DXLnhUeMUDw9GnrZH OdMfcnWXd6eIu5T4+XGpPwvoEG1aaqJPq6SKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dlntGVyaELAPwEPsoSknV9bnwwiFCn302rybv22MBHr96IIOA3PrpuohZzvyeeQy8P 9MZw6jqSv3heqrZ37AR9+NnQAXhXjwSPZzo0gQszezK3ixVhyvCjx+fm/6VOqw3rBQf9 dUjfOePwmUFF+PgpKAuYp0atirk1IvcRLpHPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.129.13 with SMTP id b13mr4551665and.189.1250569602081; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <986a34160908161107g6bbb1d8bj94e6ad4d9b01f2e5@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0908161424w5c2d49c0m8017325a53eb66db@mail.gmail.com> <4A887C2C.6010608@freebsd.org> <2a7894eb0908161446j6ea4db1an6b9425923966e0e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700 Message-ID: <986a34160908172126k4fa4c590n7c7279409d2a02f5@mail.gmail.com> From: Edu Carneiro To: Murray Stokely Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Backup Basics X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:26:43 -0000 Thanks for the comments and I agree that there should be a mention of all available backup methods such as cloud services; however, as far as giving sponsorship to selected services then that's a business decision. But such services only apply to certain people. In my case, I'm not using RAID and am going to implement a backup to an external storage and according to the docs, the suggestion is the dump/tar combo. It's still a valid method but since the reference is from almost 20 years ago, I was checking if there were any updated suggestions/ports. Or even to know what FreeBSD uses internally. Regards, Edu On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Murray Stokely wrote: > A fair point, and in that case perhaps a short paragraph introducing > the reader to the class of cloud based online backup systems as a > viable alternative to tape backup solutions in 2009, rather than > listing any specific services. A final sentence could then invite the > reader to peruse google or the commercial vendors page for specific > services. > > - Murray > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Colin Percival > wrote: > > Murray Stokely wrote: > >> I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based > >> backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly > >> variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or > >> other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD. > > > > Thanks for the plug. :-) > > > > There are a couple of companies listed under > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ > > as providing backup services (www.ahsay.com, www.exavault.com) but I > don't see > > anything special about them aside from the fact that they presumably > submitted > > PRs asking to be added -- to be honest, I'm not entirely certain why > there is a > > "Commercial Vendors" page on the FreeBSD website at all when google does > a much > > better job of finding vendors. > > > > While I'm always eager to have more people hear about tarsnap, I think > putting > > any sort of list of vendors into the handbook would just end up as a huge > mess > > unless there's a very clear policy about which companies get listed -- > and I > > really can't imagine how to draw up such a policy. > > > > -- > > Colin Percival > > Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve > > Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly > paranoid > > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 07:36:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29091106568E; 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micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090815071708.GA1257@gothic.blackend.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: doceng@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: doc/ slush for 8.0R begins on 15 August, 2009 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:36:41 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 09:17:08AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:05:41AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >=20 > > Hi all, > >=20 > > The doc slush for the 8.0-RELEASE will begin on 15 August, 2009. > >=20 >=20 > You should expect a little slip for the beginning of the doc slush. > According to what will be the ports freeze, I'll post an updated > schedule on 17 August. > Hello, Here is the updated schedule for docs: 5 September 2009: doc tree slush 12 September 2009: doc tree tagged for 8.0-RELEASE and the build of doc packages --=20 Marc --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFKilo7zQ9RwE+OdOgRApeYAJ46PRwlucIF4Sm9cp8Mz/IepmR4JACghZ2e oMsR/EJsuyMbsHZtVsy/t80= =J8eW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 14:10:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229701065691 for ; 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Because shouldn't it be visibly linked from the main site ? (I couldn't find a link easily, I'm sorry if it is there.) Second, there is http://wiki.freebsd.org/qemu page which is not accessible from wiki.freebsd.org (again, I couldn't find a link). Third, that Qemu page is a good reference but a bit chaotic and apparently outdated. I've just posted a message with title "Automagic bridged networking with QEMU (tap)" to freebsd-emulation list, which someone with privileges could paste on wiki, if you find it useful. 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It should be enough >>> to do "cd /usr/src/sbin/geom && make && sudo make install". >>> >>> I'm not very good at manpages, though... any takers? :) >> >> I always wanted to look into man pages from the editors side. >> Expect something toady, otherwise I'll notify when I failed... > > Here's the best I could do. I suggest some native speakers should have a > look on it. > > geom_man.diff > --- src/sbin/geom/class/raid3/graid3.8.orig 2009-07-30 > 18:20:16.000000000 +0200 > +++ src/sbin/geom/class/raid3/graid3.8 2009-07-30 18:20:51.000000000 +0200 > @@ -83,7 +83,15 @@ > The > .Nm > utility uses on-disk metadata (the provider's last sector) to store all > needed > -information. > +information. For New sentences should start on new lines, as house style. (It makes diffs easier to read, and is less confusing to the mdoc parser.) > +.Ar prov , > +it's possible to use a providers label (see I would avoid the "it's" contraction in favor of "it is". "provider's" is a possessive and needs the apostrophe. > +.Xr geom_label 8 ) > +instead of the device node. > +The size of I think s/size/length/ is more clear, but I'm not sure whether everyone would agree. > +.Ar prov > +is limited to 15 characters, so currently it's not possible to use the > GPTID Again, expand "it's" to "it is" (I think it is probably best to avoid contractions in man pages as a general rule) I think "the GPTID" should be "GPTIDs" for parallelism in the number of GPTIDs/labels. Hm, the rest of the files are touched with identical changes, so I think these comments apply equally there. -Ben Kaduk > +nor custom defined labels which are longer than 15 characters. > .Pp > The first argument to > .Nm > --- src/sbin/geom/class/shsec/gshsec.8.orig 2009-07-30 > 18:21:49.000000000 +0200 > +++ src/sbin/geom/class/shsec/gshsec.8 2009-07-30 18:25:26.000000000 +0200 > @@ -62,7 +62,16 @@ > The secret is shared between the given providers. > To collect the secret, all providers are needed. > If one of the components is missing, there is no way to get any useful data > from > -the rest of them. > +the rest of them. For > +.Ar prov , > +it's possible to use a providers label (see > +.Xr geom_label 8 ) > +instead of the device node. > +The size of > +.Ar prov > +is limited to 15 characters, so currently it's not possible to use the > GPTID > +nor custom defined labels which are longer than 15 characters. > +.Pp > The first argument to > .Nm > indicates an action to be performed: > --- src/sbin/geom/class/stripe/gstripe.8.orig 2009-07-30 > 18:23:42.000000000 +0200 > +++ src/sbin/geom/class/stripe/gstripe.8 2009-07-30 > 18:24:10.000000000 +0200 > @@ -82,7 +82,15 @@ > .Dq automatic > method uses on-disk metadata to detect devices. > Once devices are labeled, they will be automatically detected and > -configured. > +configured. For > +.Ar prov , > +it's possible to use a providers label (see > +.Xr geom_label 8 ) > +instead of the device node. > +The size of > +.Ar prov > +is limited to 15 characters, so currently it's not possible to use the > GPTID > +nor custom defined labels which are longer than 15 characters. > .Pp > The first argument to > .Nm > --- src/sbin/geom/class/concat/gconcat.8.orig 2009-07-30 > 18:16:12.000000000 +0200 > +++ src/sbin/geom/class/concat/gconcat.8 2009-07-30 > 18:26:06.000000000 +0200 > @@ -80,7 +80,15 @@ > .Dq automatic > method uses on-disk metadata to detect devices. > Once devices are labeled, they will be automatically detected and > -configured. > +configured. For > +.Ar prov , > +it's possible to use a providers label (see > +.Xr geom_label 8 ) > +instead of the device node. > +The size of > +.Ar prov > +is limited to 15 characters, so currently it's not possible to use the > GPTID > +nor custom defined labels which are longer than 15 characters. > .Pp > The first argument to > .Nm > --- src/sbin/geom/class/journal/gjournal.8.orig 2009-07-30 > 18:26:21.000000000 +0200 > +++ src/sbin/geom/class/journal/gjournal.8 2009-07-30 > 18:29:15.000000000 +0200 > @@ -125,6 +125,16 @@ > This could be a problem when an existing file system is converted to use > .Nm . > .Pp > +For > +.Ar prov , > +it's possible to use a providers label (see > +.Xr geom_label 8 ) > +instead of the device node. > +The size of > +.Ar prov > +is limited to 15 characters, so currently it's not possible to use the > GPTID > +nor custom defined labels which are longer than 15 characters. > +.Pp > The first argument to > .Nm > indicates an action to be performed: > --- src/sbin/geom/class/mirror/gmirror.8.orig 2009-07-30 > 18:11:17.000000000 +0200 > +++ src/sbin/geom/class/mirror/gmirror.8 2009-07-30 > 18:29:55.000000000 +0200 > @@ -106,7 +106,15 @@ > utility uses on-disk metadata (stored in the provider's last sector) to > store all needed > information. > Since the last sector is used for this purpose, it is possible to place a > root > -file system on a mirror. > +file system on a mirror. For > +.Ar prov , > +it's possible to use a providers label (see > +.Xr geom_label 8 ) > +instead of the device node. > +The size of > +.Ar prov > +is limited to 15 characters, so currently it's not possible to use the > GPTID > +nor custom defined labels which are longer than 15 characters. > .Pp > The first argument to > .Nm > > Best regards, > > -Harry > >