From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 13:43:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCF2106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sarawgi.aditya@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713B58FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sarawgi.aditya@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so1618735rvb.43 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:43:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=L3snObDc0MCstPcziXWQovHAAN0YTEyaKoKqm2Hvh5k=; b=Mm34HNHyscFySoj2fE7wFjMi7NJ+aE0dqQpNDHtWSSjoDxQXVe6KW4+VgJSgvmIkcq AWySwg306mGjMKynaBNZs/Tdma55RtCtpCsVf+fY3GwCmivr3PmzyGksLYTKls9+KwBP PJduR+KZ86voTc786dsbfI22uuSDrx2pwsncA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; b=bfq9dXeSWpO7NTrtyhziGUUQ2hoYRSrDtdx5NkRD5mei8bEL7BHdws90bWNWCvk2MZ 3jKllIZmR/DNDx4u/cx3pcHktkrSqXrZobF0qly6I5rRbRHWQ/eyhMplPFozzFSznctG 3FpIM0BHC2WdR0B71M2IWCzN5DynUsOfwG/mE= Received: by 10.141.136.4 with SMTP id o4mr1317196rvn.90.1240753417028; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aditya ([123.50.179.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm8209857rvb.2.2009.04.26.06.43.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:43:21 +0000 From: Aditya Sarawgi To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090427004318.GB2185@aditya> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Dell Studio 15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:43:37 -0000 I'm getting Dell Studio 15 and Dell Vostro 1510 (same config) in around the same price. The main difference being Studio 15 has a ATI radeon HD 4570 and Vostro 1510 has nvidia 8400 GS. So for which one should I go for ? From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 18:44:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFE5106568D for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tad1214@aol.com) Received: from imr-d03.mx.aol.com (imr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A189B8FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tad1214@aol.com) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-d03.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-449f4a914235; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:33:56 -0400 Received: from Tad1214@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id o.d61.49b0d95a (37576); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tdonnellymacbookpro.local (c-24-131-132-218.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [24.131.132.218]) by cia-mb05.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB051-92c849f4a9091cb; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:33:46 -0400 Message-ID: <49F4A909.7020102@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:33:45 -0500 From: Thomas Donnelly User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aditya Sarawgi References: <20090427004318.GB2185@aditya> In-Reply-To: <20090427004318.GB2185@aditya> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Dell Studio 15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:50 -0000 Aditya Sarawgi wrote: > I'm getting Dell Studio 15 and Dell Vostro 1510 (same config) in around the same price. The main > difference being Studio 15 has a ATI radeon HD 4570 and Vostro 1510 has nvidia 8400 GS. So for which one > should I go for ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The nVidia proprietary driver is much further along so if you want fast 3d support out of the box, the Vostro will be a better choice. In the future, ATi may be a better driver due to them beginning to help the FreeBSD community out with developing a functioning 3d driver. One thing to note is the nVidia driver is 32bit only so if you ever want to use the full 4 gigs or more of ram, you wont be able to with 3d acceleration. The ATi open source driver is further along that the open source nVidia so that is something also to take in the consideration. I have hear the build quality on the Studios is very nice, but the Vostro is a small business class laptop and is fairly well built from personal experience. In the end, I would likely go with the Vostro for the better 3d support. -=Tom From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 14:19:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AC4106564A; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905C98FC1E; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:19:29 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3REJTFR014143; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:19:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:19:29 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2009 14:19:29.0986 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DADA220:01C9C743] Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:19:32 -0000 El día Friday, April 17, 2009 a las 03:13:06PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol escribió: > Usefull info is missing, what xserver version, which video driver and > what version of it > are you using. > > I had same behaviour with intel but issue got fixed for me with latest > Mesa and Xorg from ports. I'm still think what would be the best way to update via CVS & ports to the xerver 1.6.0; maybe the cleanest way would be: # rm /var/db/pkg/* # rm -r /usr/local/* # rm -r /usr/ports # cd /usr # cvs checkout ports # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg # make install and generate from the than installed ports the packages with pkg_create to install them as updates on the smaller EeePC.... while I'm thinking about, it would be nice to get the alpha-console back to a usable state; when the X server crashes it let the display in nonsense output; all other is still working, i.e. I can use Alt-F2 to go to another alpha console, can login and reboot, but all this without seeing what I type; is there some tool/command to reset the VGA so that the output is visible again? I could insert this into the ~/.xinitrc after the call of 'startkde' and all would be fine until updating the X11 server; any idea? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 14:32:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD6D1065690; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D388FC37; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so2260037bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:32:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dd5Z7Sw8G/AsvQMjsN5NZiGs2gnwAM76znK7eeZf9ro=; b=oRezDXiWIn2wdAPt/KVpVx51wq0V9XsH3PjCmIIZlJMarY+1Q58Jpu62SMxn+j1W0z SoghubltOVY2jo5WHkNAXnsvrkbtcCRfBW1RiC87OnHA3ntkEPT/UjW4i4bZ/2iGd8T5 SAXA5/gis8ezoYMN7aW4QtTeXrf0H2nh2diAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CgsEjfABjIVsWThPxviCjPtNDT947kySl4SRcA9LN8X5VZL07/67AWDGUGn3eMyB3o 5rojGHoGYWPGXwXUj7hsAD9o04XU2zkTPCSOvnd1/ENWygTjwpOjlpQBZgdHawHr+/RX ad/aLo0SW2R2Dfgaot3PDlANWr6DsH/X+4ULQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.10 with SMTP id 10mr292992hbt.46.1240842721631; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:32:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:32:01 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:32:05 -0000 On 4/27/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Friday, April 17, 2009 a las 03:13:06PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol > escribi=F3: > >> Usefull info is missing, what xserver version, which video driver and >> what version of it >> are you using. >> >> I had same behaviour with intel but issue got fixed for me with latest >> Mesa and Xorg from ports. > > I'm still think what would be the best way to update via CVS & ports to > the xerver 1.6.0; maybe the cleanest way would be: > > # rm /var/db/pkg/* > # rm -r /usr/local/* > # rm -r /usr/ports > # cd /usr > # cvs checkout ports > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > # make install > > and generate from the than installed ports the packages with pkg_create t= o > install them as updates on the smaller EeePC.... > > while I'm thinking about, it would be nice to get the alpha-console back > to a usable state; when the X server crashes it let the display in > nonsense output; all other is still working, i.e. I can use Alt-F2 to go > to another alpha console, can login and reboot, but all this without > seeing what I type; is there some tool/command to reset the VGA so that t= he > output is visible again? I could insert this into the ~/.xinitrc after > the call of 'startkde' and all would be fine until updating the X11 > server; any idea? > Doesnt starting Xorg again fix problem, doesnt using vesa instead of intel makes console output more useful l(starting Xorg with vesa driver after Xorg crash with intel, you can use -layout switch for that). If you dont care about acceleration and more CPU usage use vesa until furth= er. --=20 Paul From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 14:56:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F9510656C0; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18768FC17; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:56:46 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3REujqd015170; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:56:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:56:45 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2009 14:56:46.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[62F3FE20:01C9C748] Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:56:48 -0000 El día Monday, April 27, 2009 a las 04:32:01PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol escribió: > > > > while I'm thinking about, it would be nice to get the alpha-console back > > to a usable state; when the X server crashes it let the display in > > nonsense output; all other is still working, i.e. I can use Alt-F2 to go > > to another alpha console, can login and reboot, but all this without > > seeing what I type; is there some tool/command to reset the VGA so that the > > output is visible again? I could insert this into the ~/.xinitrc after > > the call of 'startkde' and all would be fine until updating the X11 > > server; any idea? > > > > Doesnt starting Xorg again fix problem, yes it does; but if you terminate the new X server it crashes again and you're in the same situation; > doesnt using vesa instead of > intel makes console output more useful l(starting Xorg with vesa > driver after Xorg crash with intel, you can use -layout switch for > that). > > If you dont care about acceleration and more CPU usage use vesa until further. I've tested it right now with 'Driver "vesa"'; it comes up and terminates fine, but only in 800x600 resolution, streched to the screen of 1024x600 pixel :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 08:36:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E003D1065675 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6928FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:36:28 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3S8aRvC003817 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:36:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:36:27 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2009 08:36:28.0614 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CA33E60:01C9C7DC] Subject: laptop Dell M4400 with -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:36:31 -0000 Hello, I'm planning to order a new laptop and got an offer for a Dell M4400 with the following main details: Precision M4400 : Intel Core 2 Extreme X9100 (3.06GHz,1066MHz,6MB) Base Option : 512MB Discrete nVidia FX770M Graphics Card (with 512MB dedicated memory) Palmrest : UPEK Swipe Fingerprint Reader Biometric Display : 15.4in Widescreen WUXGA (1920X1200) with Dual CCFL Camera : Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera with Microphone for 2CCFL LCD Panel LCD Back Cover : 2CCFL Memory : 4096MB (2x2048) 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel disk : 250GB Serial ATA (7200 1/min) Festplatte (Free-Fall-Sensor) Optical Drive : Roxio Creator 9.0 Software and Media Included Optisches Laufwerk : 8x DVD+/-RW Laufwerk ohne Software Battery : Primary 9-cell 85 W/HR LI-ION 451-10589 Battery : Additional 6-Cell 56 W/HR LI-ION 451-10590 Wireless : EMEA Dell Wireless 1510 (802.11a/b/g/n 2X3) MiniCard for Core 2 Extreme ONLY Wireless : EMEA Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth 2.1 MiniCard Keyboard : Internal German Qwertz Keyboard I let the one which owns a colleague (running XP) booting a recent CURRENT from USB and the complete dmegs and pciconf output are here: http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-dmesg.txt http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-pciconf.txt Does anbody has an idea if this is compatibel with FreeBSD CURRENT? For example I don't see the Dell Wireless 1510 in the pciconf? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 10:50:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DEE1065672; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68638FC13; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so654603fga.12 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:50:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g6QCew4aE/74LPnFnb8etV3Luv99MvwpbKoUcUkNl68=; b=fgeCgI2UO1UjKiMDuM2fNiRbw7qsxfki8b2O9ANyodEpKv5NpQ4nf4yFIJVXeQJQ2c oJuWRLidLXT5rKR72cGtIVh60PYq80skE3OJBz0e+5d89choZu/Vvyidz5RnKSxnA9vV 9zJU1aW9I0ecA/Ot+fIHlQFVu9cLRIwOUDx7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QkXwA0YNTj15odj9VJl6PhS7btbcLoHdnua7qtGfSflZw39t7wGZM6hZvLXjoTG8MO PwUZwq4SOS2NLZ0HxNbsDJ8BQApHdQ339bmiUWCydz1eLKpOw/7JmUUbbOWSMkNPIqPn 83wai/cJvXvvr3un4Hs4FheMxe9O83WDdk0uI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr4251011fgb.20.1240915857854; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:50:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:50:57 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:50:59 -0000 On 4/27/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El dia Monday, April 27, 2009 a las 04:32:01PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol > escribio: > >> > >> > while I'm thinking about, it would be nice to get the alpha-console back >> > to a usable state; when the X server crashes it let the display in >> > nonsense output; all other is still working, i.e. I can use Alt-F2 to go >> > to another alpha console, can login and reboot, but all this without >> > seeing what I type; is there some tool/command to reset the VGA so that >> > the >> > output is visible again? I could insert this into the ~/.xinitrc after >> > the call of 'startkde' and all would be fine until updating the X11 >> > server; any idea? >> > >> >> Doesnt starting Xorg again fix problem, > > yes it does; but if you terminate the new X server it crashes again and > you're in the same situation; > >> doesnt using vesa instead of >> intel makes console output more useful l(starting Xorg with vesa >> driver after Xorg crash with intel, you can use -layout switch for >> that). >> >> If you dont care about acceleration and more CPU usage use vesa until >> further. > > I've tested it right now with 'Driver "vesa"'; it comes up and > terminates fine, but only in 800x600 resolution, streched to the screen > of 1024x600 pixel :-( Does it heal corrupted console output? There is some strange dark magic with randr happening there, I can reproduce it only once. After starting Xorg vesa for second time it will use 1280x800 as usual. xrandr on other hand will not output 1024x768 even if it is possible with vesa ..... -- Paul From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 11:26:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42474106566B; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4CF8FC24; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:26:19 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3SBQIkT003432; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:26:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:26:18 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: <20090428112618.GA3151@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2009 11:26:19.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[26CAC3A0:01C9C7F4] Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:26:21 -0000 El día Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 12:50:57PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol escribió: > > I've tested it right now with 'Driver "vesa"'; it comes up and > > terminates fine, but only in 800x600 resolution, streched to the screen > > of 1024x600 pixel :-( > Does it heal corrupted console output? yes; > There is some strange dark magic with randr happening there, I can reproduce it > only once. After starting Xorg vesa for second time it will use > 1280x800 as usual. > xrandr on other hand will not output 1024x768 even if it is possible > with vesa ..... note: the EeePC has se unusual 1024x600 display; meanwhile I have removed all packages and ports on the VM I'm using for the build of -CURRENT and cvs updated the /usr/ports; a build of the master port xorg-7.4_1 gives 242 installed packages and a # mkdir PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 # cd PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 # pkg_create -Rnb xorg-7.4_1 produces 202 packages required for an install of the master port; only 33 of them are newer versions as the ones I have build around March, 23 (these older packages are all in PKGDIR): $ for i in *; do test -f ../PKGDIR/$i || echo $i ; done consolekit-0.3.0_8.tbz dri-7.4_1,2.tbz freetype2-2.3.9_1.tbz gamin-0.1.10_1.tbz gio-fam-backend-2.20.1.tbz glib-2.20.1.tbz hal-0.5.11_23.tbz libGL-7.4_1.tbz libX11-1.2.1,1.tbz libXrandr-1.3.0.tbz libdrm-2.4.9.tbz libpciaccess-0.10.5_6.tbz libxcb-1.2_1.tbz pcre-7.9.tbz pixman-0.15.2.tbz policykit-0.9_4.tbz randrproto-1.3.0.tbz xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_1.tbz xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_5.tbz xf86-video-ati-6.12.2.tbz xf86-video-intel-2.6.3.tbz xf86-video-mach64-6.8.0_2.tbz xf86-video-nv-2.1.13.tbz xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.903_1.tbz xf86-video-r128-6.8.0_2.tbz xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.5.tbz xf86-video-vesa-2.1.0_1.tbz xinput-1.4.1.tbz xkeyboard-config-1.5_1.tbz xorg-7.4_1.tbz xorg-drivers-7.4_1.tbz xorg-server-1.6.0,1.tbz xrandr-1.3.0.tbz I will just remove the older versions of the 33 packages on the EeePC and update this with a: # cd PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 # pkg_add xorg-7.4_1 Thx for your hints in any case matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 12:24:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F5A106568E; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C368FC2A; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:53 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3SCOqhT005041; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:52 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Paul B. Mahol" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090428122452.GA4743@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> <20090428112618.GA3151@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090428112618.GA3151@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2009 12:24:53.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[55ADF680:01C9C7FC] Cc: Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:24:55 -0000 El día Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 01:26:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > I will just remove the older versions of the 33 packages on the EeePC > and update this with a: > > # cd PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 > # pkg_add xorg-7.4_1 I did the update, and the X server starts and stop fine: $ X -retro X.Org X Server 1.6.0 Release Date: 2009-2-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 ... It terminates as well fine (without crash) on Alt-Ctrl-BS); tried it three times without any crash; but when I launch $ startx which starts KDE 3.5.10, it crashes when KDE is ended via the menu in KDE: startkde: Shutting down... klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 kde4: not found startkde: Running shutdown scripts... startkde: Done. Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting Do you want to see /var/log/Xorg.0.log? or should I file a bug report? when I use: $ startx -- -retro I can bring it down clean with Alt-Ctrl-BS, but as well stopping KDE via menu let the server crash. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 14:43:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2931F1065688 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11748FC19 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from trouble.errno.com (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id n3SEh2wn096913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <49F715F6.8020603@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:43:02 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-x.dcc-servers-Metrics: ebb.errno.com; whitelist Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptop Dell M4400 with -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:43:04 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > I'm planning to order a new laptop and got an offer for a Dell M4400 > with the following main details: > > Precision M4400 : Intel Core 2 Extreme X9100 (3.06GHz,1066MHz,6MB) > Base Option : 512MB Discrete nVidia FX770M Graphics Card (with 512MB dedicated memory) > Palmrest : UPEK Swipe Fingerprint Reader Biometric > Display : 15.4in Widescreen WUXGA (1920X1200) with Dual CCFL > Camera : Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera with Microphone for 2CCFL LCD Panel > LCD Back Cover : 2CCFL > Memory : 4096MB (2x2048) 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel > disk : 250GB Serial ATA (7200 1/min) Festplatte (Free-Fall-Sensor) > Optical Drive : Roxio Creator 9.0 Software and Media Included > Optisches Laufwerk : 8x DVD+/-RW Laufwerk ohne Software > Battery : Primary 9-cell 85 W/HR LI-ION 451-10589 > Battery : Additional 6-Cell 56 W/HR LI-ION 451-10590 > Wireless : EMEA Dell Wireless 1510 (802.11a/b/g/n 2X3) MiniCard for Core 2 Extreme ONLY > Wireless : EMEA Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth 2.1 MiniCard > Keyboard : Internal German Qwertz Keyboard > > I let the one which owns a colleague (running XP) booting a recent > CURRENT from USB and the complete dmegs and pciconf output are here: > > http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-dmesg.txt > http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-pciconf.txt > > Does anbody has an idea if this is compatibel with FreeBSD CURRENT? > For example I don't see the Dell Wireless 1510 in the pciconf? > > Looks like wireless is a Broadcom 432x part: none2@pci0:12:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000d1028 chip=0x432b14e4 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network No native driver available. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 15:22:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7901065672 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tad1214@aol.com) Received: from imr-d02.mx.aol.com (imr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736E18FC26 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Tad1214@aol.com) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-d02.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-249f71eb418e; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:20:20 -0400 Received: from Tad1214@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id d.c8d.432569ac (34945); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from osprey2.cptxoffice.net (ng1.cptxoffice.net [208.74.121.102]) by cia-da05.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA056-888149f71eac1e1; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:20:13 -0400 Message-ID: <49F71E49.7090001@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:18:33 -0500 From: Thomas Donnelly User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090313) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> <49F715F6.8020603@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <49F715F6.8020603@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptop Dell M4400 with -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:22:18 -0000 Sam Leffler wrote: > Matthias Apitz wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm planning to order a new laptop and got an offer for a Dell M4400 >> with the following main details: >> >> Precision M4400 : Intel Core 2 Extreme X9100 (3.06GHz,1066MHz,6MB) >> Base Option : 512MB Discrete nVidia FX770M Graphics Card (with >> 512MB dedicated memory) >> Palmrest : UPEK Swipe Fingerprint Reader Biometric >> Display : 15.4in Widescreen WUXGA (1920X1200) with Dual CCFL >> Camera : Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera with Microphone for >> 2CCFL LCD Panel >> LCD Back Cover : 2CCFL >> Memory : 4096MB (2x2048) 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel >> disk : 250GB Serial ATA (7200 1/min) Festplatte (Free-Fall-Sensor) >> Optical Drive : Roxio Creator 9.0 Software and Media Included >> Optisches Laufwerk : 8x DVD+/-RW Laufwerk ohne Software >> Battery : Primary 9-cell 85 W/HR LI-ION 451-10589 >> Battery : Additional 6-Cell 56 W/HR LI-ION 451-10590 >> Wireless : EMEA Dell Wireless 1510 (802.11a/b/g/n 2X3) MiniCard >> for Core 2 Extreme ONLY >> Wireless : EMEA Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth 2.1 MiniCard >> Keyboard : Internal German Qwertz Keyboard >> >> I let the one which owns a colleague (running XP) booting a recent >> CURRENT from USB and the complete dmegs and pciconf output are here: >> >> http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-dmesg.txt >> http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-pciconf.txt >> >> Does anbody has an idea if this is compatibel with FreeBSD CURRENT? >> For example I don't see the Dell Wireless 1510 in the pciconf? >> >> > > Looks like wireless is a Broadcom 432x part: > > none2@pci0:12:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000d1028 chip=0x432b14e4 > rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > class = network > > No native driver available. > > Sam > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Often times you can get the Intel wireless cards either by selecting the bubble, or if you call to your business rep in they can some times do special things like that. -=Tom From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 11:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30EE106567A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4168FC23 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:16 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3TBAGp8007708; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Thomas Donnelly Message-ID: <20090429111016.GA7546@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> <49F715F6.8020603@freebsd.org> <49F71E49.7090001@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49F71E49.7090001@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2009 11:10:16.0661 (UTC) FILETIME=[13653850:01C9C8BB] Cc: Sam Leffler , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptop Dell M4400 with -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:10:19 -0000 El día Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 10:18:33AM -0500, Thomas Donnelly escribió: > >>http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-dmesg.txt > >>http://www.unixarea.de/DellM4400-pciconf.txt > >> > >>Does anbody has an idea if this is compatibel with FreeBSD CURRENT? > >>For example I don't see the Dell Wireless 1510 in the pciconf? > >> > >> > > > >Looks like wireless is a Broadcom 432x part: > > > >none2@pci0:12:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x000d1028 chip=0x432b14e4 > >rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' > > class = network > > > >No native driver available. > > > > Sam > Often times you can get the Intel wireless cards either by selecting the > bubble, or if you call to your business rep in they can some times do > special things like that. > > -=Tom Yes, the configurator at dell.com let me select between: --EMEA Intel Pro Wireless WI-FI 5100 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n 1X2) MiniCard for Centrino 2 Label --EMEA Intel Pro Wireless 5300 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n 3x3) MiniCard for Centrino 2 Label --EMEA Dell Wireless 1510 (802.11a/b/g/n 2X3) MiniCard for Core 2 Duo Label are the two Intel cards supported? and by which module? thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:35:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C22B106566B; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60738FC1B; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1140278fxm.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:35:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yyF1uDcPOgQzoz1qQEVXcv08ZeVcMbj5+B1UWvBt/7g=; b=iTej8/Evq+huKhfGjAgVuiurTxiBsGn7cI9zc386QfRtOp3ozw7B3JczUF/EgR8b8T 9xY1oPoVm1uVgy4kutniEUm+5TogeJkkvtr97FhsShwGIW97yuf9b5/kuwBHA95F8lsI HE5oKgPt3X3O4qtLpzBN4ZThw7HGoWFLu07pM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bbbu4ai2cyWuqiaDS2WYAcoA1aiEBFf+0cdvrOCB9hHkbdgw91DNMAI/dh2lY9m5yS DCuLlszmY1iW1mq57OFRsh8hydHnwEVvkpdTl+58vugE60X1hxTpovnB9bbb9AgN8Itm j8XbrLLBcnOX7APdQqIfFcnUeRHyZ7/uXjvJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.141 with SMTP id s13mr15075hbe.70.1241008549835; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:35:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090428122452.GA4743@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> <20090428112618.GA3151@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090428122452.GA4743@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:35:49 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290535j4464262bs1bc306fefac6b0ba@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:35:51 -0000 On 4/28/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El dia Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 01:26:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz > escribio: > >> I will just remove the older versions of the 33 packages on the EeePC >> and update this with a: >> >> # cd PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 >> # pkg_add xorg-7.4_1 > > I did the update, and the X server starts and stop fine: > > $ X -retro > > X.Org X Server 1.6.0 > Release Date: 2009-2-25 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 > ... > > It terminates as well fine (without crash) on Alt-Ctrl-BS); tried it > three times without any crash; > > but when I launch > > $ startx > > which starts KDE 3.5.10, it crashes when KDE is ended via the menu in > KDE: You mean it crashed but console did not get corrupted? > startkde: Shutting down... > klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 > kde4: not found Guessing, do you have kde4? > startkde: Running shutdown scripts... > startkde: Done. > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > Do you want to see /var/log/Xorg.0.log? or should I file a bug report? > > when I use: > > $ startx -- -retro > > I can bring it down clean with Alt-Ctrl-BS, but as well stopping KDE via > menu let the server crash. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:43:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891E61065687; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5BB8FC24; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:43:45 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3TChjrA010375; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:43:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:43:45 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: <20090429124345.GA10196@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> <20090428112618.GA3151@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090428122452.GA4743@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904290535j4464262bs1bc306fefac6b0ba@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904290535j4464262bs1bc306fefac6b0ba@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2009 12:43:46.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[22E69140:01C9C8C8] Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:49 -0000 El día Wednesday, April 29, 2009 a las 02:35:49PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol escribió: > On 4/28/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El dia Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 01:26:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz > > escribio: > > > >> I will just remove the older versions of the 33 packages on the EeePC > >> and update this with a: > >> > >> # cd PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 > >> # pkg_add xorg-7.4_1 > > > > I did the update, and the X server starts and stop fine: > > > > $ X -retro > > > > X.Org X Server 1.6.0 > > Release Date: 2009-2-25 > > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 > > ... > > > > It terminates as well fine (without crash) on Alt-Ctrl-BS); tried it > > three times without any crash; > > > > but when I launch > > > > $ startx > > > > which starts KDE 3.5.10, it crashes when KDE is ended via the menu in > > KDE: > > You mean it crashed but console did not get corrupted? I mean: it crashes with sig 11 and console is corrupted; sorry for beeing inprecise; I will CVS update the kernel (mine is ~March 23), maybe it's a solved issue outside X-sever; > > startkde: Shutting down... > > klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 > > kde4: not found > > Guessing, do you have kde4? no; I have KDE 3.5.10 only (no KDE4); but I was told by the KDE gurus that newer versions of KDE3 try to shutdown KDE4 clients; I should ignore this; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:48:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FA1106566B; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570FC8FC1A; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1131081bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:48:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=POCknk+Q5dlNKHsqNvcE76jSgEg7TfsHnMFQb4c+QN8=; b=qpMbeS9JurY1dE+eTfiXpImEPY5vbb61KPOOykxtgEWoN5iVLuXr0eR40c3py+vhBN SDkx+dDzmssLuFHXuksiieJrnrgB/TFnpKae2dJvRg5s+sL4RxHiemAxWu/YXBAZb4Qk 9hABDdXy1/rTFg+QC6lFSCV5xE4rEyiQxd6VU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FINHBKaE2swdSyPi1NQ5RCZw0Rsj+OYC9q1EuKK4RCWsg4Xjaos3ImApaomS58PHW3 xCr8gsOBr9m3C22nu8ZDECjqMeWlzgVItbu/mg6/CQ1/j+XM3YnH0Y11gh6iDy8y8EUH Bave+McmhGoTcpe+ByRD/3y5gksnV2SwEsFKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.175.144 with SMTP id n16mr13146hbf.172.1241009285149; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:48:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090429124345.GA10196@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090417084446.GA3929@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904170613s63f6445el7adab4f74ab3dbf5@mail.gmail.com> <20090427141929.GA13902@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904270732r48be04f7k776b5c4d13ba1383@mail.gmail.com> <20090427145645.GA14984@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904280350o15ea4275rf297608ec84262fe@mail.gmail.com> <20090428112618.GA3151@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090428122452.GA4743@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750904290535j4464262bs1bc306fefac6b0ba@mail.gmail.com> <20090429124345.GA10196@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290548h7f991547lc935839c08ebe9dc@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT+xorg-7.4 on eeePC 900 && X crashes on shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:48:07 -0000 On 4/29/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El dia Wednesday, April 29, 2009 a las 02:35:49PM +0200, Paul B. Mahol > escribio: > >> On 4/28/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> > El dia Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 01:26:18PM +0200, Matthias Apitz >> > escribio: >> > >> >> I will just remove the older versions of the 33 packages on the EeePC >> >> and update this with a: >> >> >> >> # cd PKGDIR-Xorg-7.4_1 >> >> # pkg_add xorg-7.4_1 >> > >> > I did the update, and the X server starts and stop fine: >> > >> > $ X -retro >> > >> > X.Org X Server 1.6.0 >> > Release Date: 2009-2-25 >> > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >> > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 >> > ... >> > >> > It terminates as well fine (without crash) on Alt-Ctrl-BS); tried it >> > three times without any crash; >> > >> > but when I launch >> > >> > $ startx >> > >> > which starts KDE 3.5.10, it crashes when KDE is ended via the menu in >> > KDE: >> >> You mean it crashed but console did not get corrupted? > > I mean: it crashes with sig 11 and console is corrupted; sorry for > beeing inprecise; Well in that case recompile all ports (dri/libdrm/Mesa stuff/Xorg server) with symbols enabled, and enable kern.sugid_coredump sysctl. Try to get bt from Xorg coredump. > I will CVS update the kernel (mine is ~March 23), maybe it's a solved > issue outside X-sever; >> > startkde: Shutting down... >> > klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 >> > kde4: not found >> >> Guessing, do you have kde4? > > no; I have KDE 3.5.10 only (no KDE4); but I was told by the KDE gurus > that newer versions of KDE3 try to shutdown KDE4 clients; I should > ignore this; -- Paul From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:36:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DCA1065677 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carl.gustavsson@bahnhofbredband.se) Received: from smtp-1.sys.kth.se (smtp-1.sys.kth.se [130.237.32.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A5E8FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carl.gustavsson@bahnhofbredband.se) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.sys.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCD3156358; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:18:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at kth.se Received: from smtp-1.sys.kth.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-1.sys.kth.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eNbxQrYtf7zA; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:18:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from munin.home.swe (dyna226-226.nada.kth.se [130.237.226.226]) by smtp-1.sys.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A0015607C; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:17:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F85387.8000201@bahnhofbredband.se> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:17:59 +0200 From: Carl Johan Gustavsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> <49F715F6.8020603@freebsd.org> <49F71E49.7090001@aol.com> <20090429111016.GA7546@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090429111016.GA7546@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptop Dell M4400 with -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:36:02 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Yes, the configurator at dell.com let me select between: > > --EMEA Intel Pro Wireless WI-FI 5100 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n 1X2) MiniCard for Centrino 2 Label > --EMEA Intel Pro Wireless 5300 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n 3x3) MiniCard for Centrino 2 Label > --EMEA Dell Wireless 1510 (802.11a/b/g/n 2X3) MiniCard for Core 2 Duo Label > > are the two Intel cards supported? and by which module? thx > > matthias The two Intel cards are not supported at the moment but I have seen that there are some work in progress on them (OpenBSD have a driver for them). The Dell branded card has a Broadcom chipset it seems, (bcm94312hmg) and thats not supported either AFAIK. One option is to order it without WiFi and put in some Atheros card yourself (which I did). 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(http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 07:36:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8091065670 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 07:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92558FC12 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 07:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTPSA id 241783020; Sat, 02 May 2009 09:36:25 +0300 Message-ID: <49FBE9E6.4000806@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:36:22 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Missmolly1944@aol.com References: <1241220186.00106926.1241207403@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1241220186.00106926.1241207403@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard drive for Dell Inspiron 5000e - place to buy X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 07:36:27 -0000 Missmolly1944@aol.com wrote: > Hi, how much for the hard drive? Lou I have bought OCZ Vertex 60GB SSD instead of my Acer laptop hard drive. It is quite expensive and not so big, but it is incredibly fast! I am completely satisfied with it. -- Alexander Motin