From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 01:36:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF25106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 01:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A436A8FC18 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 01:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n4V1anYJ020880; Sat, 30 May 2009 21:36:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:36:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905302136.49369.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD on USB drive for a MacBook Pro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 01:36:51 -0000 I'm looking for advice and/or pointers. I have an Intel-based MacBook Pro and I would like to use a USB thumb drive to be able to boot FreeBSD on it. Some questions: 1) Is this even possible? I've read that you _can_ boot Mac OS X from a USB hard drive on a new MacBook but I'm not sure if the same goes for non-Mac OSen or thumb drives. 2) What steps should I take to partition the thing? What boot code should I use and where should it live? I'm planning to do a manual installation in any event. 3) If I manage to get 1 and 2 sorted out, will I be able to boot the same thumb drive on a regular PC? Will any additional steps be necessary? 4) Just to be contrary, I'd also like to use GELI (if possible) for everything but /boot. Does needing an extra /boot partition change anything? I'll be doing some experimenting, but if some things are already known (not) to work I'd like to start with as much info as possible. Thanks, JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 03:22:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DB1106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 03:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from pn1.xo.com (pn1.xo.com [207.88.224.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373D28FC13 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 03:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from marlborough.xo.com (marlborough.xo.com [207.155.248.73]) by pn1.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) External) with ESMTP id B3BC15E4B for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 23:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (ConcentricHost relay 1.2); with ESMTP id D884B5B29; Sat, 30 May 2009 23:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IBM-PAIGE-PC (c-24-14-10-100.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.10.100]) by marlborough.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) Relay) with ESMTP id D884B5B29 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 23:20:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Midspan Manager" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Phihong USA Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:20:42 -0500 Message-Id: <20090531032048.D884B5B29@marlborough.xo.com> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Myths about Power Over Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:22:04 -0000 Myths about Power Over Ethernet May 28, 2009 Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across = standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in to= day=E2=80=99s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network d= evices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points= through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined w= ith an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers conti= nuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most po= wer interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any locati= on PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastr= ucture geared for growth and efficiency. =20 PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need. Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled. This means the majority r= ely on power management to share available power across the switch por= ts. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typi= cally capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required= 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports.=20 For example: A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has= a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switc= h, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports a= re used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only h= ave 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports. The mat= h doesn=E2=80=99t match the ports: 195W =E2=80=93 40W (switch) =E2=80=93= 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) =3D 17W left for power on 12 ports=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution. =20 =20 A midspan and a PoE switch are the same. A PoE Midspan is not a switch. A Midspan is an additional PoE power s= ource that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices. P= oE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and = =E2=80=98inject=E2=80=99 safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts. = Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing = PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering = full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially le= ss per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch. Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch =E2=80=93 they make use of existin= g best-in-class switches. They inject safe power across all ports and= cost less than PoE switches. .=20 =20 Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices l= ike IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras.=20 Switches were designed to, well, switch. PoE Switches are designed wi= th power management and have to distribute different power as required= to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the= power required to complete the primary task - switching. Networks th= at have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access p= oints quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE swit= ches. As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market= share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident= =2E Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full = power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the i= ndustry standards (IEEE802.3af/at).=20 Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a= midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE= -enabled devices now and in the future. =20 =20 Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be= powered using PoE technology.=20 Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still = use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) = or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet networ= k you can use a PoE splitter. PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE = power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separa= tes the data and power on to two seprate cables. The data is connecte= d to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is co= nnected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug. Splitters can= also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE = device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products w= hich only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their = RJ-45 jack. Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspan= s and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power require= d by most endpoint devices.=20 =20 I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras a= nd high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras.=20 Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with hig= her power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a =E2=80= =9Cforklift upgrade=E2=80=9D. This meant buying new PoE switches at co= nsiderable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to m= eet higher power requirements or add more powered ports. There is an e= asy and more cost-effective way =E2=80=93 separate the data and power = in the wiring closet (IBF). It is more efficient and costs less to sep= arate your data and power allowing you to keep your best-in-class busi= ness switch for your IP needs and supplement it where required with be= st-in-class midspan technology to power the endpoints.=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution.=20 =20 All midspans are created equal . . . they are all the same.=20 Always select a best-in-class midspan. If you wanted to enhance your s= witched network wouldn=E2=80=99t use a best-in-class network switch? = Of course you would. A midspan designed and manufactured by a leading = power supply company that understands power, power requirements, and o= ne that delivers enterprise-level solutions.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that has multiple members on the IEEE (P= oE) committee helping to define safe, new PoE standards. This ensures = that every midspan is designed to meet current and future IEEE specifi= cations for Power-over-Ethernet.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that designs, manufactures, and tests it= s own product rather than outsourcing these tasks across the globe to = cut costs. Select a midspan that has a high-speed, common interface to access the= management console. A USB port is not as cheap as a serial port (RS-2= 32) but is faster, more user-friendly, and more common on high quality= midspans.=20 Myth Busted: Although there are many midspan manufacturers out there, = few have the power supply experience, quality controls, and manufactur= ing capability to produce best-in-class midspans. All midspans are NO= T created equal. =20 =20 =20 =C2=A92009 midspans.com. Midspans.com is a division of Phihong USA Inc. All Rights Reserved=20 You are being sent this email because you have expressed interest in = PoE products in the past. If you do not wish to receive emails from us= in the future and be removed from our list please click on the link b= elow.=20 To unsubscribe, please click here. www.phihong.com - 47800 Fremont Blvd., Fremont, CA. 94538 - Phone 510-= 445-0100=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 20:08:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614F5106567B for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 20:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (posta.ihlasnet.com.tr [213.238.128.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0448FC1E for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 20:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net) Received: (qmail 58832 invoked by uid 89); 30 May 2009 23:08:08 +0300 Received: from ihlasnetym (HELO desktop2002) (yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net@213.238.150.220) by pop3.ihlas.net.tr with SMTP; 30 May 2009 23:08:08 +0300 Message-ID: <32914FF12A6A47E48839C2343FDA1AAC@desktop2002> From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= To: Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:08:04 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-9"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Disclaimer: netiletisim.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:25:41 +0000 Subject: about using ppp over ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:08:15 -0000 I use freebsd7.1 I have a adsl modem. I am going to use freebsd as a router and firewall. I wish to use over pppoe. I set the adsl modem as a bridge mode. I configured ppp.conf on freebsd. When I try to connect to internet using ADSL, But I get an error as below; Freebsd can't ping at any outside ip. Therefore I am not able to reach to internet in this way. What am I doing wrong? Any advice ? Thanks May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial May 21 17:35:54 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Received NGM_PPPOE_ACNAME (hook "SE-ATAKOY-NEC-1") May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Received NGM_PPPOE_SESSIONID May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Received NGM_PPPOE_SUCCESS May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login May 21 17:35:55 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp May 21 17:35:56 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Authenticate May 21 17:35:56 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: his = PAP, mine = none May 21 17:35:56 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Pap Output: xyza@ttnet ******** May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: Pap Input: SUCCESS () May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Network May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Warning: 0.0.0.0/0: Change route failed: errno: No such process May 21 17:35:57 gw110 ppp[1215]: tun0: Warning: ff02:7::/32: Change route failed: errno: Network is unreachable cat /etc/rc.conf gw110# ifconfig xl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:60:97:b8:77:eb media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active stge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=209b ether 00:22:15:10:73:04 inet 10.11.1.221 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.11.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 metric 0 mtu 1500 pflog0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 33204 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460 syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1492 inet 88.238.76.207 --> 88.238.64.1 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 1215 tun1: flags=8010 metric 0 mtu 1500 gw110# ping 88.238.76.207 PING 88.238.76.207 (88.238.76.207): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 88.238.76.207: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.831 ms 64 bytes from 88.238.76.207: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.222 ms 64 bytes from 88.238.76.207: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.206 ms Bu elektronik posta ve varsa ekleri tamamen gizli ve gönderilen kişiler listesine özeldir. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 03:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CA5106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 03:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE76C8FC0A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 03:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n4V3n03V042443 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 30 May 2009 20:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n4V3n02n042438; Sat, 30 May 2009 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13471; Sat, 30 May 09 20:37:39 PDT Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:36:47 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Message-Id: <4a21fb4f.tCv44B9UaB1L03/b%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200905281030.n4SAUXdA046386@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905280847.12966.kirk@strauser.com> <200905280904.44025.kirk@strauser.com> <20090528183801.82b36bbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <4a1f9cf7.UEl7lAiK4FGe5eG7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remotely edit user disk quota X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:49:03 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >> Even 15 seconds of thinking is enough to understand that logging > >> to other user and then su - gives completely no extra security. > > > > I don't buy this, given that root's login name is well known :) > > if someone can intercept the passwords you type, then he/she will > intercept both user password you log in and then su password you > type. > > He/she actually can gain more if you use su, as you may use the > same user password somewhere else. The whole point of ssh is to prevent this sort of thing, by encrypting the message traffic over this insecure communication channel. An attacker may be able to intercept the encrypted traffic, but it will take a skilled cryptanalyst and a lot of CPU time -- or the attacker will have to be very lucky -- to decrypt the message and recover the passwords while they are still valid. (You *do* change passwords periodically, don't you?) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 04:22:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3B2106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 04:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyle.g18@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f173.google.com (mail-qy0-f173.google.com [209.85.221.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FB88FC19 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 04:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kyle.g18@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so10069935qyk.3 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent :organization; bh=uh4c3cJ16tKCEmE9Hg4OhelHOAOjP/4oVRtWNSCfvdY=; b=jB5F3b1cv347OBPFt6YrRCi13eG6Id41WrGLJLefjoL1Q9Xjind/8L6/0kfAGz1j8X zIiGERmEd1+n73h7arrdY4t/IEaVYXZ+hu/uclxdWCExa5fJte4h5uPQ3Czv8yd+hg5v LtUpX9d/7TBY/b8PxLX+i7Ez+q9OXCpF3FoHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent:organization; b=k/jcx/I3NEObhTJjYP15Zqfd2H6gIBfEBy38mpo6tJEwQVEYQq6BTMLhd+ZbhVeHgj ajKxdmsKimEFRfDRNT4g2QXMq2MvgtDNpND1TeiArrVQZ4IUDQep1mhBarksACEH/OnN giDRZzKdpAPA8xM72FL8E9KMsHjkzcxk93ObM= Received: by 10.224.74.84 with SMTP id t20mr4315771qaj.328.1243742550535; Sat, 30 May 2009 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (CPE-65-25-166-211.wi.res.rr.com [65.25.166.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3106068qwf.25.2009.05.30.21.02.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 30 May 2009 21:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:02:28 -0500 From: Kyle Grieb To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20090531034804.GA35083@Buglouse.Sytes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: (Illusion) Cc: Subject: Audio boost OSS/Mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 04:22:45 -0000 I want to boost the audio playback of my multimedia. I use mplayer with oss for audio playback. I don't want to re-encode my media. uname -a:'7.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD' -- ~ ##The United States of America is a Slave Nation## ##The Human race is a Slave race## !!InfoWars.com!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 05:26:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19621065673 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 05:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordofhyphens@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994628FC16 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 05:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordofhyphens@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so3612105yxb.13 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 22:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i0onimX4DccQwrxzUzvkj2mcXiT/RY1E1dofWe3quO8=; b=CIajEldREew0xJqxF66zx6+Ex5Y/NuqKXFUsTVYABPg5HU9mYvuImKIu94cpeTNHa2 KnU6yB9EbpO2Yg45+7lqvMG/C9vFJXqfIO1x0YJLCDUAkR11nH1t4JzUsoBkRJ9xNiqn 1jfinoCxyi/lCUMJZwd9FSXmh9Hmk06vVXaAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L7BgPMypbQCHKC/nPl2CDuduBy5SvVTVAM1akeaZHH+lRP8Q/y9mRcJUOHgXMLN6Ru jqjCrHIzAcjlCf70v2SwpTaXb2KpYDGm0440ZhN7nE9TBwS/XnJ05ybHrtnlbAx9fT8k sT01CjQSBybclWOPfQ/tLbC/YNqBSC8m3mWsQ= Received: by 10.90.93.8 with SMTP id q8mr3852514agb.13.1243745998981; Sat, 30 May 2009 21:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.144? (173-23-69-3.client.mchsi.com [173.23.69.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm5160396aga.24.2009.05.30.21.59.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 30 May 2009 21:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A220EC4.7010202@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:59:48 -0500 From: LoH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE] Audio going silent after wakeup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 05:26:16 -0000 After setting up an Audigy2ZS with the emu10kx kernel driver, I found that after the machine goes into a suspend mode and wakes up, the sound stops playing. Unloading and reloading the kernel drivers (sound.ko and snd_emu10kx.ko) doesn't appear to do anything. I tested with an external line device and mplayer. A reboot clears up the symptoms. Has anyone else noticed this before? Is there a way to get the problem to sit up and bark without doing a complete reboot? --Joseph Lenox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 06:00:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8746D1065670; Sun, 31 May 2009 06:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05938FC12; Sun, 31 May 2009 06:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n4V60eCC092137; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:00:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:00:40 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20090530160540.C5BCD106575F@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090531142921.B65025@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090530160540.C5BCD106575F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: What's wrong with this picture? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:00:46 -0000 On Sat, 30 May 2009, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote in freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 260, Issue 31 [..] > 1. Fw: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console (Graham Bentley) > 2. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files > (Mel Flynn) > 3. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files > (Valentin Bud) > 4. Re: MIME attachments in mbox files (Ian Smith) > 5. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Jerry) > 6. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found > (Prokofyev Vladislav) > 7. GSM to Serial Converter (Exemys) > 8. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Mel Flynn) > 9. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found > (Michael Powell) > 10. Re: GSM to Serial Converter (Kevin Kinsey) > 11. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (cpghost) > 12. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found > (Prokofyev Vladislav) > 13. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) > 14. Re: Fresh install 7.2-RELEASE i386, X won't start > (Wojciech Puchar) > 15. Re: Failure to get past a PCI bridge (Ian Smith) > 16. Re: What is this forum for? (Wojciech Puchar) > 17. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Wojciech Puchar) > 18. Re: What is this forum for? (Wojciech Puchar) > 19. Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 bind9 log files not found (Mel Flynn) > 20. Re: On the need for moderated questions lists (Wojciech Puchar) > 21. Re: Competition law (was Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint) > (Wojciech Puchar) > 22. RE: On the need for moderated questions lists (Wojciech Puchar) > 23. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) > 24. Re: MIME attachments in mbox files (Wojciech Puchar) > 25. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) > 26. Re: On the need for moderated questions lists (Wojciech Puchar) > 27. Re: Remotely edit user disk quota (Wojciech Puchar) > 28. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files > (Wojciech Puchar) > 29. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Mel Flynn) > 30. Re: Software creating karaoke from mp3 files (Wojciech Puchar) > 31. Re: Greylisting and new posters (Wojciech Puchar) > 32. Re: find and searching for specific expression in files > (Wojciech Puchar) > 33. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) > 34. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (cpghost) > 35. Filter request Re: GSM to Serial Converter (Wojciech Puchar) > 36. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Wojciech Puchar) Woj, 20 out of 36 messages, over 55% of all these messages, are by you. Having been very busy in recent weeks, I'd accumulated about 24 digests unread that I ploughed through yesterday, many of which featured over 50% of messages either from you, or from silly people reacting to you, whose ranks I must join for just this once. I gather that you're hoping to prove that without moderation - as we've enjoyed for 11 years that I've experienced - if you keep on flooding the list with so much off-topic crap, then we'll be forced into accepting your wish for the list to be controlled, post by post, by some poor bastard who needs to be awake 24/7/365 and has little else of a life. I don't have the sort of free time (nor apparent need) that you have to try fashioning this sometimes-helpful list after my own wishes, which is why I get digests, posting occasionally where I think I can maybe help. I'm also subscribed to about a dozen other FreeBSD lists that in total deliver not many more messages per day than this one sometimes does. You're not even being vaguely consistent. You're fast to agree with our resident M$ troll when he argues against government control of anything, even of protecting the population from a 'free' market that's happy to profit by poisoning people in body or mind, but then you insist we need to establish another sort of 'government' to control what people want to discuss on these lists? Fortunately, that's just not going to happen. You are quite capable of being helpful and even useful to the FreeBSD Project, if you'd focus your energies on things you do know something about and by widening your experience in areas covered by other lists. You are equally as capable in this role as wannabe list wrecker, opining on every second message including all the silly wildly off-topic ones. You already HAVE the power to greatly improve this list. Please do so. Sincerely, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:03:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D431065674 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f163.google.com (mail-fx0-f163.google.com [209.85.220.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5E18FC24 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so501667fxm.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 01:03:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BeWFYDkKfaA3vfRUTTdXnH3zBmPH4zaDZIjhlyOJQc0=; b=NcXOeSi5YLUlHNQP1IoVdoO/93vErisRF87kbOI1jDMT9+HiVWMVnLpTNg88a85OvA yxZU38G383EimYWSVV+mO8SjCwuov9ayWpT+eLcpxowL8oPpGyPZLTwZydlEwOg2gKYS nxZQkuOOvs0XFVtonQVbGNEYZjbByG+bH9bVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TDDS1m7vl8MYxBh9GtnArsHppdt0WQ89KoviihK4Uba8NrWud8U79dE+mSIj3XV5dr RxTDqm0AxeYiiuNKDek9Q9sJWkVtnzxmjFPnp0cbuYgU1BYQWjLCqKIsna3FMTat3O1x CLo2SSVTrGOh422KBIG7qZ9J2W3UVvKLgH5uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.117.142 with SMTP id r14mr4273193bkq.197.1243757000113; Sun, 31 May 2009 01:03:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:03:00 +0100 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:03:22 -0000 2009/5/31 Polytropon : > On Sat, 30 May 2009 18:55:15 -0400, Glen Barber = wrote: >> For (my own) clarity sake, won't that take up space in '/'? =A0(Not >> arguing, just never thought of using /opt on FreeBSD...) > > This depends on your file system layout, Glen. If you put > everything into one partition, i. e. /, then everything is > going into /. > > If you have separate partitions, e. g. /, /tmp, /var, /usr > and /home, then /opt would take space on /. On most installations > that use this approach, / is "as big as needed" for what it > is used: the basic SUM stuff and mountpoints, nothing more. > > Of couse, it's possible to extend the approach mentioned to > have another partition for /opt. > > In order to not to deal with this problem, one could even make > a symlink /opt@ -> /usr/local2. > > To summarize: You are correct. :-) > > By the way, I've not seen anyone using /opt on FreeBSD yet, > I just wanted to mention that it is possible. (There are > other "Solarisisms" that I've already seen, such as /export > on FreeBSD which is usually used on Solaris for NFS shares.) > > IIRC, I installed NetBeans onto my computer a really long time ago... and it wormed into /opt. Disgraceful behaviour, I can't remember why I didn't use ports. That was when I switched to Eclipse! Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:07:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7246010656A4 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f163.google.com (mail-fx0-f163.google.com [209.85.220.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1278FC33 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so502697fxm.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 01:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BrpDEj/iMOmni5RdxN5KN7aSshg+SQDpVx16eh2g+TA=; b=QhV1ROvos5PfEe7WAjAMcnSAU47nmQURbqyESdKPfIKh3DGYqEemtJm7nC/RPz+TSc EkO4mqWnVBOlUwYKqodxIwNGFKYo8FJB4wS6ZvQzMCh/huaZRSI5oFEBS9xeZWMGBj96 lkkgL1i6aMA6VMhJMXm6+tlTzejJRMcBQtdiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hMpnDTHkvnyfrWu5oAUk++71oGDnhe13yCl0RE4udE5+InlPaZA5kGjZUf+srwiVYV WJRmTBqgZLeAVwCuX815XiIP8aw0wVvGbxpRbxpoKjszQPw2EcbizVTdqurtVxpzzM3S N0fErxwok7OfQcpE7avT/Me4/eIDCI6TNNeWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.51.130 with SMTP id d2mr4333501bkg.12.1243757231105; Sun, 31 May 2009 01:07:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200905302136.49369.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <200905302136.49369.lists@jnielsen.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:06:51 +0100 Message-ID: To: John Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on USB drive for a MacBook Pro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:07:14 -0000 2009/5/31 John Nielsen : > I'm looking for advice and/or pointers. I have an Intel-based MacBook Pro > and I would like to use a USB thumb drive to be able to boot FreeBSD on > it. Some questions: > > 1) Is this even possible? I've read that you _can_ boot Mac OS X from a > USB hard drive on a new MacBook but I'm not sure if the same goes for > non-Mac OSen or thumb drives. Yes. It is possible; as long as you can fit it on. The EFI is quite capable of handling USB sticks. > 2) What steps should I take to partition the thing? What boot code should > I use and where should it live? I'm planning to do a manual installation > in any event. Use Disk Utility, and use GPT layout, as long as you don't care about booting then stick on PCs. > 3) If I manage to get 1 and 2 sorted out, will I be able to boot the same > thumb drive on a regular PC? Will any additional steps be necessary? See above. > 4) Just to be contrary, I'd also like to use GELI (if possible) for > everything but /boot. Does needing an extra /boot partition change > anything? Doubt it, that shouldn't be a problem. See http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=14468 > I'll be doing some experimenting, but if some things are already known > (not) to work I'd like to start with as much info as possible. > > Thanks, > > JN Good luck. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:11:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF601106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DB58FC13 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8AtPU015378; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:11:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n4V8AtPU015378 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1243757463; bh=OQLr3qoI2F1zZUinn2/dtJSRxlwcx9kgAM9yMKlne60=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A223B88.80401@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun ,=2031=20May=202009=2009:10:48=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Grant=20Peel=20|CC:=20freebsd- questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Mysql6=20or=20Mysql5|Refere nces:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95. 6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D "------------enig19F81413F48E115382450617"; b=FwxrDTXfpNKe71ZNdeM64qWzmD15q0O3UZSuDEHjXeQtc6E119cLLcQnK/2cWctPR wtEJ3H2sOaX8LpJDMvc9+ZWuEFpDSurH/TW8P9R0/5FEJtf81oUeG3v9rrS3h0aaql yMbXQii8sczvChtkjzGeIvHl3tt6tRNIgwwpGpk0= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A223B88.80401@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:10:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig19F81413F48E115382450617" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysql6 or Mysql5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:11:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig19F81413F48E115382450617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Grant Peel wrote: > Does anyone have any expierience with it? Is it solid? Fast? Are > there any 'gotchas' when using databases developed on older versions > of Mysql? (4). I can't answer about speed or solidity -- except to point out that MySQL themselves describe MYSQL 6.0 as an "alpha development release". http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/6.0.html MySQL 5.1 is the preferred generally-available release at the moment. 5.1= is certainly reasonably solid, but I don't think it offers much in terms of = speed increases over 5.0 and it's likely to be slower than a 4.x system. Of co= urse, 4.x doesn't support any of the transactional stuff or foreign keys or hig= her concurrency / multiple CPUs anything like as well as the later versions. As for compatibility between MySQL 4.x and MySQL 6.x; well, it might work= , but the chances are it will break due to a number of small but incompatib= le changes in schemas, SQL etc. etc. Most readily available software will w= ork with MySQL 5.0+ nowadays, and it is usually possible for a reasonably exp= erienced DBA to load data dumped out of a 4.x server into a 5.x server without too= much expenditure of either ingenuity or profanity. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig19F81413F48E115382450617 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEUEAREIAAYFAkoiO44ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw8YwCXXQEXEPWl6l/Uoh258j14pTf8 QgCeOV+PKpCWuDysbgidZsqYEytnJME= =br0w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig19F81413F48E115382450617-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:25:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1CE106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189FF8FC20 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8PGWg023135; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:25:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8PFvK023132; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:25:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:25:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:25:32 -0000 >> > > For (my own) clarity sake, won't that take up space in '/'? (Not in my case yes as / is usually my only filesystem. for those who keep programs (/usr) separate /usr/local2 or /usr/whatever will be OK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:30:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BD3106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC4B8FC12 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8Uj2A023189; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8Ui3c023186; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:30:59 -0000 > > This depends on your file system layout, Glen. If you put > everything into one partition, i. e. /, then everything is > going into /. like in my case. with one exception - now i usually have /tmp separate but it's tmpfs :) > other "Solarisisms" that I've already seen, such as /export > on FreeBSD which is usually used on Solaris for NFS shares.) does Solaris REQUIRE things to be in /export to be able to export through NFS or is it just some kind of tradition or routinely repeated rule? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:33:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9B31065672; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA7D8FC1B; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8WwPt023220; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:32:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8WwBv023217; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:32:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:32:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <200905302136.49369.lists@jnielsen.net> Message-ID: References: <200905302136.49369.lists@jnielsen.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on USB drive for a MacBook Pro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:33:07 -0000 > > 4) Just to be contrary, I'd also like to use GELI (if possible) for > everything but /boot. Does needing an extra /boot partition change > anything? Actually you can't create /boot partition, but something else like /b and link /boot to /b/boot bootloader subsystem requires that things are in /boot subdirectory on bootpartition. make /boot partition a, encrypted partition as d and add in loader.conf vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:da0d.eli" if you do this and not forget to add -b in geli init everything will just work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:38:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5598C1065675 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFC18FC16 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8chiE023252 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:38:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8ch5a023249 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:38:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:38:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090531032048.D884B5B29@marlborough.xo.com> Message-ID: References: <20090531032048.D884B5B29@marlborough.xo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Myths about Power Over Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:38:51 -0000 > Myths about Power Over Ethernet > May 28, 2009 > Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in today?s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network devices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined with an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers continuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most power interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any location PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastructure geared for growth and efficiency. Unless gigabit ethernet is used, the simplest PoE is to put + on brown pair and - on blue pair, as only green and orange pairs are used. Unless the device doesn't have low voltage like 5V or less as input and doesn't suck too much power it's just fine, and requires just 5-10 minutes or work, soldering iron and insulation tape. It's really funny to see "PoE converter" sets costing at least 150PLN (45$) here doing exactly the same. of course nobody forbids anyone to spent too much :) I even know somebody that had a lots of equipment with american-style power (110V AC), made 220 to 110V transformer and actually put 110V AC OVER CAT5 CABLE. It worked but really - it wasn't safe IMHO :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:43:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0683A106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF578FC1A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8hngx023266; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:43:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8hl7V023263; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:43:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:43:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4a21fb4f.tCv44B9UaB1L03/b%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: References: <200905281030.n4SAUXdA046386@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905280847.12966.kirk@strauser.com> <200905280904.44025.kirk@strauser.com> <20090528183801.82b36bbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <4a1f9cf7.UEl7lAiK4FGe5eG7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4a21fb4f.tCv44B9UaB1L03/b%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remotely edit user disk quota X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:43:56 -0000 >> same user password somewhere else. > > The whole point of ssh is to prevent this sort of thing, by > encrypting the message traffic over this insecure communication > channel. I think most people using ssh already know it. or maybe not?:) An attacker may be able to intercept the encrypted > traffic, but it will take a skilled cryptanalyst and a lot of CPU > time -- or the attacker will have to be very lucky -- to decrypt > the message and recover the passwords while they are still valid. All of this things are strong enough to require billions of years to crack or more. >From the beginning my point of this discussion is to stop stupidly repeating "golden rules" like - program a is secure - program b is insecure - so just don't use program b Because it teaches people not to think. There are difference between "insecure program" and "program without extra security". > (You *do* change passwords periodically, don't you?) Of course! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:44:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BC81065678 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95F78FC1A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8iD9s023284; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:44:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8iDfm023281; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:44:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:44:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kyle Grieb In-Reply-To: <20090531034804.GA35083@Buglouse.Sytes.net> Message-ID: References: <20090531034804.GA35083@Buglouse.Sytes.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Audio boost OSS/Mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:44:20 -0000 > I want to boost the audio playback of my multimedia. you mean higher volume. use mixer command > I use mplayer with oss for audio playback. > I don't want to re-encode my media. > > uname -a:'7.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD' > -- > ~ > ##The United States of America is a Slave Nation## > ##The Human race is a Slave race## > !!InfoWars.com!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:46:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AE81065673; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065DF8FC1C; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8k18f023310; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:46:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8k1p8023307; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:46:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:46:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20090531142921.B65025@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20090530160540.C5BCD106575F@hub.freebsd.org> <20090531142921.B65025@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:46:09 -0000 > > (Wojciech Puchar) > > 33. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (Wojciech Puchar) > > 34. Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint (cpghost) > > 35. Filter request Re: GSM to Serial Converter (Wojciech Puchar) > > 36. Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail (Wojciech Puchar) > > Woj, 20 out of 36 messages, over 55% of all these messages, are by you. That's fine. then please - if you count mine as spam, ignore them and calculate stats with the rest. > 50% of messages either from you, or from silly people reacting to you, So you just classify people as silly because then answer me. It isn't polite i think. > I gather that you're hoping to prove that without moderation - as we've > enjoyed for 11 years that I've experienced - if you keep on flooding the > list with so much off-topic crap. Again - calculate how many not-mine threads are on topic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:47:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881D2106568A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD1F8FC14 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-8.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.8]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E943CDBB; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:47:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n4V8lDof009371; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:47:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:47:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:47:22 -0000 On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:44 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > does Solaris REQUIRE things to be in /export to be able to export through > NFS or is it just some kind of tradition or routinely repeated rule? No, just tradition or convention. In most cases, there are other structures than just /home exported via NFS, so there's /export/home, and maybe e. g. /export/packages and /export/www. I've not seen it on Solaris in another way. There's another interestin "IRIXism": As far as I remember, the home directory was kept under /usr (like our /usr/home), but called /usr/people... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:48:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6614610656CF for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1D88FC12 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8lbJu023334; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:47:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8lZ42023331; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:47:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:47:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <4A222825.80709@bah.homeip.net> Message-ID: References: <20061208042111.GA709@host.my.domain> <23685866.post@talk.nabble.com> <20090524104618.0a62a935@scorpio> <23711563.post@talk.nabble.com> <20090525154816.3cee4b9a@scorpio> <20090526144939.d21275c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090527133706.1a6e4612@scorpio> <20090528111158.aee9a44d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090528180334.935932be.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090528164310.70f30aae@scorpio> <4A20A464.4080804@bah.homeip.net> <4A222825.80709@bah.homeip.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:48:47 -0000 >>> No. The company CREATES a "need" for their product. >>> That's the number one rule. >> >> if they succeed - what's wrong? > > You tell me. > > nothing. As long as nobody is forced to buy someones product, every kind of propaganda is allowed. It's just peoples problem if they will believe that they NEED for eg. new cell phone, while their old just works fine for what he/she does (calling, SMS) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 08:49:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C94106568A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4300E8FC17 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V8nJsP023349; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V8nI8M023345; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:49:33 -0000 all your examples are sounds just like kind of "tradition". Just like for eg. creating lots of partitions no matter if it's needed or not On Sun, 31 May 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:44 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> does Solaris REQUIRE things to be in /export to be able to export through >> NFS or is it just some kind of tradition or routinely repeated rule? > > No, just tradition or convention. In most cases, there are > other structures than just /home exported via NFS, so there's > /export/home, and maybe e. g. /export/packages and /export/www. > I've not seen it on Solaris in another way. > > There's another interestin "IRIXism": As far as I remember, the > home directory was kept under /usr (like our /usr/home), but > called /usr/people... > > > -- > Polytropon >> From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:07:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA84E106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A648FC14 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V96vEK016227; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:06:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n4V96vEK016227 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1243760817; bh=JfCT0Zqw2cz36POeFYahBvZTABeJvbvCGA8Zmx1oLHs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2031=20May=202009=2010:06:51=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Wojciech=20Puchar=20|CC:=20Polytropon=20,=20Glen=20Barber=20,=20=0D=0A=20"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=2 0|Subject:=20Re:=20Deinstall=20soft ware|References:=20=09 =09<20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de>=09<4ad87131090530155 5k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com>=09<20090531012203.ac9e 5f67.freebsd@edvax.de>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Conte nt-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20pr otocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------ ------enig7B979CF0B5B804E359762702"; b=UGq7DLqgmVd85gx+qKKCBOCInQGXZv0QyxI0YCFsyCSBm739BA4fRQUWW5BUaYOSL j3GWRRzCj0WJuaDHTV+E1i00boIkCeSAKSAkUvX4aohxB911L8AUUrl9woLuZuhjiF 6IFfCBfDWrnYm0YGR96HYkqFI9jjs5GysxXE6qlw= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:06:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7B979CF0B5B804E359762702" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Glen Barber , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:07:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7B979CF0B5B804E359762702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: =20 >> other "Solarisisms" that I've already seen, such as /export >> on FreeBSD which is usually used on Solaris for NFS shares.) >=20 > does Solaris REQUIRE things to be in /export to be able to export=20 > through NFS or is it just some kind of tradition or routinely repeated = > rule? It's just a convention. Filesystems to be exported live under /export, and are frequently automounted under /net/{hostname} or /home/{hostname} depending on their intended purpose. You don't have to arrange things like that, just as you don't have to install ports under /usr/local. ie. you'ld have to have a pretty good reason to go against the convention. In fact, given that FreeBSD doesn't seem to have a native convention on how exported filesystems are laid out (no mention in hier(7), no default /etc/exports file), it would make sense to adopt the Solaris/Linux style = where feasible. Mount points etc. aren't going to work exactly the same due to= Solaris/Linux preferentially using autofs and FreeBSD using amd(8) (yes, = I know there has been some progress on autofs under FreeBSD, but it's not 1= 00% yet[*]), but from a user perspective it should all work the same. Cheers, Matthew [*] http://www.fsl.cs.stonybrook.edu/docs/freebsd-autofs/autofs.pdf --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7B979CF0B5B804E359762702 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkoiSLEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzaQACdGlauI/FINEOScV2bG81jweyF NJkAnizlaSXtMpLZIWEfrYMechbLC6nz =LD/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7B979CF0B5B804E359762702-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:08:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362741065723 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA42C8FC16 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-8.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.8]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5B33D081; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n4V98lJU009491; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:08:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:08:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090531110847.3df9d2db.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:09:02 -0000 On Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:18 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > all your examples are sounds just like kind of "tradition". > Just like for eg. creating lots of partitions no matter if it's needed or > not One exception: The creation of different partitions according to different uses can (but doesn't neccessarily have to) be useful if partition-wise dumps are required or intended. As you know, there are advantages and disadvantages. There can be trouble, causing only one of the partition to get defects; it's easy to dump and restore data partition-wise, even for to clone system installations. On the other hand, you can run into problems according to static space limits which you don't when you have only one / partition and all directories are "resized" automatically (haha)... :-) File system defects will of course affect the whole partition then. (But that's a different situation anyway: If there's trouble with some hard disk, better transfer what you can get onto a new media and wipe the disk; does it happen two times, better use a new hard disk - or similar advice applies.) It depends on the requirements. Sometimes it's good, sometimes bad, and sometimes everything altogether... How many fingers? ;-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:15:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2933A1065672 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A2C8FC1D for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V9FMQ6023533; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:15:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V9FJiv023530; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:15:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:15:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:15:33 -0000 > In fact, given that FreeBSD doesn't seem to have a native convention on > how exported filesystems are laid out (no mention in hier(7), no default > /etc/exports file), it would make sense to adopt the Solaris/Linux style > where > feasible. it's best not to adopt any style, but do whatever is optimal in certain case. You propose just another example of "blind repeated rule". Your idea won't hurt in single-disk, single-partition case, but this case is prohibited by other "blind repeat" rule of making lots of partitions. What if i want export things from multiple disks? just make one another separete partition on each disk for /export/something just to make system config look "nice" or "professional" because it's good to have NFS exported things to stay in /export Such practices gives only illusion or cleanliness and order, actually giving exactly opposite. Actually one ZFS adventage grown on this - it allows you to make millions of "partitions" without actually creating them, because it's all still stored in one pool. But those who feel configuration with a lots of partitions "cleanness and order" are happy now. I see this as just a pure mess, not an order. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:19:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411EA106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774D28FC0A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V9JBoN023553; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:19:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4V9JAJi023550; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:19:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:19:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090531110847.3df9d2db.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531110847.3df9d2db.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:19:22 -0000 > One exception: The creation of different partitions according > to different uses can (but doesn't neccessarily have to) be > useful if partition-wise dumps are required or intended. As > you know, there are advantages and disadvantages. There can This is only adventage - to use dump. Anyway - do someone use dump (not tar or similar) on terabyte-sized partition. For me it never succeeded, even if it dumps successfully produced output could be unrestorable. After getting this twice i stayed away from this great (but nonworking) tool. Backup tool that are not 100% sure is not a backup tool. with tar, rsync, whatever - partitioning no longer matters as they work on file/directory abstraction level. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:23:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5E31065674 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CFF8FC12 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so7069709bwz.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 02:23:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RzBo5zJzOmIRBqw5Y/PXamdol/rmrEIr4ssgUlJJa+0=; b=j2LWVLTNF9FbvcgGTMPQVX3foUxLYBUPZO5/8SutcGBLGW4n7Ws4WIbpX2qG4udF0o m89bPZ6u2Zd4wJVlmPxtiv45tB+SgUSM4Z0zz7pZHB+uiXF2aJRjC7CLNm82VKiBX+gh zeFELbC0+BPr/0VFr1FEM0Ws8IBvfSE6mPMCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hZXWbd6sH+i5STypXhIftPMN+kG2lpXaWPg84OD7VLBwJ91QdW0K4CTdTu/lb9wwiS oKiuTO/2ydFIq0trG00+VfzePvzyNQ2PzI8LSNREsOz2xNUaXEYENxveJ7K/MT8MLZaL ++AVjuWxvTX8oT39Gmo+E7212YQ7mCTYC1Zv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.61.204 with SMTP id u12mr4352402bkh.149.1243761783323; Sun, 31 May 2009 02:23:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A220EC4.7010202@gmail.com> References: <4A220EC4.7010202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:23:03 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e750905310223keef56e7y7db0ebcb8bbae066@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: LoH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE] Audio going silent after wakeup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:23:05 -0000 On 5/31/09, LoH wrote: > After setting up an Audigy2ZS with the emu10kx kernel driver, I found > that after the machine goes into a suspend mode and wakes up, the sound > stops playing. Unloading and reloading the kernel drivers (sound.ko and > snd_emu10kx.ko) doesn't appear to do anything. I tested with an external > line device and mplayer. > > A reboot clears up the symptoms. > > Has anyone else noticed this before? Is there a way to get the problem > to sit up and bark without doing a complete reboot? WHat happens if you unload module before suspending? -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:24:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AB71065680 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9378FC1C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-8.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.8]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CCE16C0196; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:24:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n4V9OeN4009620; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:24:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:24:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090531112440.1c535685.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531110847.3df9d2db.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:24:49 -0000 On Sun, 31 May 2009 11:19:10 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > For me it never succeeded, even if it dumps successfully produced output > could be unrestorable. > > After getting this twice i stayed away from this great (but nonworking) > tool. Backup tool that are not 100% sure is not a backup tool. > > with tar, rsync, whatever - partitioning no longer matters as they work on > file/directory abstraction level. I've recently discovered cpdup on another UFS formatted HDD for this job. Until now, works good. I just prefer dump + restore for "cloning" systems because it explicitely takes care of file attributes and anything; I do use it usually from hard disk to hard disk, not via storage media (backup set). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3C2106567B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150178FC1B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4V9PS8S016503; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:25:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n4V9PS8S016503 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1243761929; bh=fAYaJnaFZ4vxks6uk0GdT5/Tdlyypv69fWmfZLdab3c=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A224D02.20404@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun ,=2031=20May=202009=2010:25:22=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Wojciech=20Puchar=20|CC:=20Polytropon=20,=20Glen=20Barber=20,=20=0D=0A=20"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=20< freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>|Subject:=20Re:=20Deinstall=20softwa re|References:=20 =20=2 0<20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de>=20<4ad871310905301555k 68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com>=20<20090531012203.ac9e5f 67.freebsd@edvax.de>=20=20<4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20< alpine.BSF.2.00.0905311108170.23493@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>|In-Re ply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signe d=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp- signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig170C4010F7D80B2D 6FF2A81C"; b=VuLInKlYD+ObWnktZjnmRkBamA15snpKagYnmtjPNDe4A70pezTzCPO0BggxqmahJ JQJ5FGQp6hevZ3VQRa6J2cs7+FeLh22XEBCkYFR4TknrQL02aIb4XS/RHfooF1dbBw E92m61J1IspcjMmW5VZfQGns1E4a2XAGcOisklbU= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A224D02.20404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:25:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig170C4010F7D80B2D6FF2A81C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Glen Barber , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:25:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig170C4010F7D80B2D6FF2A81C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Your idea won't hurt in single-disk, single-partition case, but this=20 > case is prohibited by other "blind repeat" rule of making lots of=20 > partitions. I didn't say anything about how file system layout should be mapped to disk partitions[*]. Nor do I support the concept of making lots and lots = of small partitions. Check the archives: I'm one of the people that regular= ly advocates the 'one big root' style. Cheers, Matthew [*] Although historically there have been bugs with NFS exports making it= possible to access any files on the same partition, which would make a se= parate partition for /exports a damn good idea. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig170C4010F7D80B2D6FF2A81C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkoiTQgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx8kACgjxWHKH4YJDUURx0jZKIAYe91 A3MAoIJ7MYgFK/SgdUsNUsTD30UsAjh8 =hYIJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig170C4010F7D80B2D6FF2A81C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 09:25:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BF1106567B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF368FC0A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 09:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-65-8.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.65.8]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0806216C002E; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:25:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n4V9Pnr2009627; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:25:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:25:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090531112549.73daa409.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:25:52 -0000 On Sun, 31 May 2009 11:15:19 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > it's best not to adopt any style, but do whatever is optimal in certain > case. > > You propose just another example of "blind repeated rule". It is often found as "corporate standard". This doesn't mean you have to use it on your own systems, but it helps to understand why things are there and configured in a specific way. With ZFS, of course, there's much room for improvement. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 10:44:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFAE1065674 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186ED8FC12 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VAiO2W024146; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:44:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VAiMWJ024143; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:44:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:44:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090531112440.1c535685.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531104713.4412726b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531110847.3df9d2db.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090531112440.1c535685.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:44:41 -0000 > I just prefer dump + restore for "cloning" systems because it > explicitely takes care of file attributes and anything; I do use You are right, but rsync can do the same :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 10:45:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BE0106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 914428FC1F for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 May 2009 10:45:15 -0000 Received: from ipa175.88.107.79.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.254.1]) [79.107.88.175] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu002) with SMTP; 31 May 2009 12:45:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/uhf92Fivujfma9wo8c8d44rtW9lBMePLLOWxjmQ LlQTbzJ+U+BUbR Message-ID: <4A225F79.9050009@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:44:09 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= References: <32914FF12A6A47E48839C2343FDA1AAC@desktop2002> In-Reply-To: <32914FF12A6A47E48839C2343FDA1AAC@desktop2002> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about using ppp over ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:45:18 -0000 Yavuz Maşlak wrote: > I have a adsl modem. I am going to use freebsd as a router and firewall. ... > What am I doing wrong? It is probably the firewall, it seems that you use firewall_type="closed". Could give us some more info about it? Which firewall do you use? what are your custom rules? You can read more about the firewalls available in FreeBSD from relevant section of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls.html Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 10:48:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA348106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77668FC14 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VAmLHP024173; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VAmJ4Q024170; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4A224D02.20404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4A224D02.20404@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:48:32 -0000 > >> Your idea won't hurt in single-disk, single-partition case, but this case >> is prohibited by other "blind repeat" rule of making lots of partitions. > > I didn't say anything about how file system layout should be mapped to > disk partitions[*]. Nor do I support the concept of making lots and lots of > small partitions. Check the archives: I'm one of the people that regularly > advocates the 'one big root' style. I did't tell you said this, just compared the idea of "the only right directory layout" with this. > [*] Although historically there have been bugs with NFS exports making it > possible to access any files on the same partition, which would make a > separate > partition for /exports a damn good idea. And this is probably the reason for /exports tradition in Solaris. At first - this is solution for some problem, then - it's dumbly repeated even if problem doesn't exist any more. The same with partitioning. In very very old unices with pre-FFS filesystem it actually improved performance, speed up checking, improved recovery so they did it. Now it no longer gives any adventage in most cases, just gives problem of making one partition too small and other too big. Yet - it's dumbly followed as a rule, and explained by repeating the reasons that are no longer true for years. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 10:49:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12211065686 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378148FC1B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VAnk1H024192; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:49:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VAnj51024189; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:49:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:49:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090531112549.73daa409.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090530213535.f117d3a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310905301555k68cb3acekb488852142bd02aa@mail.gmail.com> <20090531012203.ac9e5f67.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A2248AB.3060907@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20090531112549.73daa409.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deinstall software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:57 -0000 >> case. >> >> You propose just another example of "blind repeated rule". > > It is often found as "corporate standard". This doesn't mean you Well i don't expect many smart people working in big corporations. There are exceptions of course - those that got there by accident and not yet left ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 13:23:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0528A1065686 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B303F8FC13 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from beta.locolomo.org (beta.locolomo.org [172.16.0.32]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43ECE1C0847 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A2284D6.2080304@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:23:34 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: migrating berkeley DBs (4.3 to 4.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:23:37 -0000 Hi: I have cyrus-imapd 2.3 with Berkeley DB 4.3 and openldap also compiled with BDB 4.3. Now, openldap won't build with 4.3 and defaults to 4.6 so I need to migrate my data, and I would like to migrate my cyrus-imapd also to a newer version of BDB. Are there any tools or tricks for doing this? The BDB v4.4 port refers to a compatibility page maintained at sleepycat, but this is now redirected to Oracle and I find no such information. Any page listing the db file compatibility? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 13:41:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C38B106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from throughout45103763@rambler.ru) Received: from mxa.rambler.ru (mxa.rambler.ru [81.19.66.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A0F8FC0A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from throughout45103763@rambler.ru) Received: from mcgi19.rambler.ru (mcgi19.rambler.ru [81.19.67.194]) by mxa.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56E39C9EF for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:24:10 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mcgi19.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi19.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2213E1141D for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:24:09 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [85.21.188.84] by mcgi19.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Sun, 31 May 2009 17:24:06 +0400 From: =?windows-1251?B?5Ojs7u0g7Ojq6A==?= To: Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:24:06 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Message-Id: <716158998.1243776246.169082136.40311@mcgi19.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (mail-pda), http://mail.rambler.ru Subject: hi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:41:36 -0000 http://pills55c.krovatka.su From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 14:44:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34653106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 14:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sajozsattila@citromail.hu) Received: from server14.citromail.hu (server14.citromail.hu [91.83.45.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C2A8FC0C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 14:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sajozsattila@citromail.hu) Received: (qmail 18840 invoked by uid 89); 31 May 2009 14:18:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20090531141809.18839.qmail@server14.citromail.hu> To: Received: from 54034CF1.catv.pool.telekom.hu [84.3.76.241] by with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:18:09 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Saj=F3_Zsolt_Attila?=" Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:18:09 +0200 Errors-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: VIPmail v.2.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sshd + pam_pgsql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:44:52 -0000 Hi! I would like use the sshd with pam_pgsql module. But it isn't work, and I c= an't configure the pam debug too. So my two question: How can I use the pam debug? How do I use the sshd with pam-pgsql? OS: FreeBSD 7.2 My /etc/pamd./sshd: auth=09=09required=09pam_unix.so=09=09no_warn try_first_pass auth=09=09sufficient=09pam_pgsql.so config_file=3D/etc/ssh/ssh-pam_pgsql.co= nf account=09=09required=09pam_unix.so account =09requisite=09pam_pgsql.so config_file=3D/etc/ssh/ssh-pam_pgsql.co= nf password=09required=09pam_unix.so=09=09no_warn try_first_pass password=09sufficient=09pam_pgsql.so config_file=3D/etc/ssh/ssh-pam_pgsql.c= onf session =09sufficient=09pam_pgsql.so config_file=3D/etc/ssh/ssh-pam_pgsql.c= onf My /etc/ssh/ssh-pam_pgsql.conf: debug pw_type =3D md5 connect =3D dbname=3Dsshuser user=3Dattila password=3Dxxxxx auth_query =3D select password from felhasznalok where user_name =3D %u acct_query =3D select password from felhasznalok where user_name =3D %u pwd_query =3D update account set password =3D %p where user_name =3D %u psql -U attila -c "SELECT * FROM felhasznalok" sshuser":<code> user_name | password | uid | gid | login_class | password_change_time | a= ccount_expiry_time | user_full_name | home_directory | user_shell=20 -----------+----------+------+------+-------------+----------------------+-= --------------------+----------------+-----------------+------------ sftpuser2 | sara | 2001 | 2001 | hungarian | | = | sftp user | /home/.sftpuser | /bin/sh</code&g= t; My /etc/ssh/sshd_conf: [..] UsePAM yes PasswordAuthentication yes PermitEmptyPasswords yes PermitRootLogin without-password [..] ssh -v -l sshuser2 luk1814.no-ip.org: OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Connecting to luk1814.no-ip.org [84.3.76.241] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: permanently_set_uid: 0/0 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_5.1p1 = FreeBSD-20080901 debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'luk1814.no-ip.org' is known and matches the DSA host key. debug1: Found key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:6 debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-inte= ractive debug1: Next authentication method: publickey debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/identity debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-inte= ractive debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-inte= ractive debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-inte= ractive debug1: Next authentication method: password debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-inte= ractive Permission denied, please try again. debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-inte= ractive Permission denied, please try again. Received disconnect from 84.3.76.241: 2: Too many authentication failures f= or sftpuser3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 15:08:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FE3106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF08FC17 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from localhost (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D809BA9; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:08:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id b60YdXlbSHkj; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (djw32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.24.0.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CF0127; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:08:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: "=?iso-8859-2?q?Saj=F3_Zsolt?= Attila" Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:08:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.3 (Linux/2.6.29-ARCH; KDE/4.2.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20090531141809.18839.qmail@server14.citromail.hu> In-Reply-To: <20090531141809.18839.qmail@server14.citromail.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200905311708.05447.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sshd + pam_pgsql X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:08:16 -0000 Dnia niedziela 31 maj 2009 o 16:18:09 Saj=F3 Zsolt Attila napisa=B3(a): > How do I use the sshd with pam-pgsql? I don't know how tu use but I see something strange with your setup. In ssh-pam_pgsql.conf you have pw_type =3D md5 and in your database you hav= e a=20 cleartext password. I think it is your problem. I think that you can add column in your database and convert cleartext=20 password to md5. Or, if possible, configure pam to use cleartext password. = I=20 don't know if the latter is possible in pam. Cheers, Maciek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 15:48:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1F61065672 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhengtianyu@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E811E8FC19 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhengtianyu@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so2808149rvb.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:48:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=hB3cCllAubax1ukQohH5KaNytxQKytp3a0D5grmPUXk=; b=aEVFugw2nqRdRzZy3hYLxKYOos9U6ZOc5pFAiKvkqX01KoMG0ewvlRP+BxlKAIUnCm faTcJutYoXNOZqbB6LEQlG7plnjyBVWnE4mqH+fLgHy3WQZsDoaFHQm8a15jK/HzflNA g/VVyXrq6aXVZ+nEFCITUbiU0WIbgm6oOPWTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=KOVYnH5+BiSmoGj3+MiwwsHDdE0Rr05SE3cU/it6hmtQeADy+RtEreG983z/WUqKd2 LghuqCenyUpvB8EHdphKKgJVM9OK+8Z06lxrMny8bgUvWQvD0ZovYoGa4jRb6oQMwLr+ RG8G/9Oxpb255QJouRZvq76m0XzSsDV8ysMvY= Received: by 10.140.144.1 with SMTP id r1mr4862017rvd.131.1243783015712; Sun, 31 May 2009 08:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([220.168.116.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm10160765rvf.3.2009.05.31.08.16.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 31 May 2009 08:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:25:01 +0800 From: =?utf-8?B?6YOR5aSp5a6H?= To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-ID: <20090531152500.GA1119@zheng.org> Mail-Followup-To: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: find and searching for specific expression in files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:48:10 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:25:12AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Can you please give me a hint how to use find to search for a specific > text within files? If you just want the filenames which contain the string you are searching for, use the "-l" argument to tell grep to print out the filenames. For example: grep -rl "string" . will print out all the filenames containning "string". >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Zbigniew Szalbot >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" =E9=83=91=E5=A4=A9=E5= =AE=87 2009=E5=B9=B405=E6= =9C=8831=E6=97=A5 --=20 zheng.org --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoioUwACgkQG6/s6B3RblM7+gCeJMCkH2ZcvYvx7u7rUWWlFQ9r k1IAniWxoQmnXU8Q/mmQLcsxuiTftdLq =M8XS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 16:02:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FDA10656BD for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3C78FC1E for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 25293 invoked from network); 31 May 2009 16:02:19 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 May 2009 16:02:18 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696915083A; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 168121CC82; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:02:11 -0400 (EDT) To: davidcollins001@gmail.com References: <1b30fd140905291235q7f45e6c3x7dcba8a8e88cf3ca@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:02:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140905291235q7f45e6c3x7dcba8a8e88cf3ca@mail.gmail.com> (David Collins's message of "Fri\, 29 May 2009 20\:35\:45 +0100") Message-ID: <44ws7x5kho.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:02:20 -0000 David Collins writes: > I have several jails for the purpose of not trashing my root partition > with junk programs that I may not need and also to learn how to run > various system services, ie dns, http, mysql, samba etc. I have been > running them for a while and have only just updated the jail root > after rebuilding world. > > I have been using portupgrade to rebuild the host ports I have > installed. What I would like it know is if it is possible to use > portupgrade on the host system to update the jail ports. So like when > rebuilding world a destdir is specified and is populated with the new > world, is it possible to do the same with portupgrade? The reason is > because I don't want to have to install portupgrade and ruby several > times, also I can script the upgrade easily too. > > I have been reading through the ports and portupgrade man pages and > setting environment variables to the appropriate directories in the > jail to try to get this to work but so far no luck. Portupgrade wants > to upgrade the host ports > > Here is what I have tried so far: > > viper:~$ export DISTDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/tmp/ > viper:~$ export WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/jails/xserver/var/tmp/ > viper:~$ export PREFIX=/usr/jails/xserver/usr/local/ > viper:~$ export BATCH=yes > viper:~$ export PORT_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/p > viper:~$ export PORT_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/ports > viper:~$ export PKG_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/pkg/ > viper:~$ export PORTS_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/ports > viper:~$ > viper:~$ sudo portupgrade -narR It sounds like PREFIX is the one you're not picking up. Perhaps it's being overridden by one of your makefiles, or by portupgrade's configuration files? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 18:01:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF586106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vilanova_rodrigo@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s38.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60CC8FC0C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vilanova_rodrigo@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY109-W11 ([64.4.19.111]) by bay0-omc1-s38.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 31 May 2009 10:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_f1a39695-e5be-4987-aab7-3db82ee89433_" X-Originating-IP: [189.61.14.81] From: Rodrigo Vilanova To: Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:49:28 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2009 17:49:28.0545 (UTC) FILETIME=[250CAD10:01C9E218] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel compile problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:01:29 -0000 --_f1a39695-e5be-4987-aab7-3db82ee89433_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there=2C =20 I want to use FreeBSD 7.2 as a simple firewall and VPN at home. I=92ve a dedicated computer to this. =20 I=92m trying to compile my FreeBSD 7.2 Kernel on my computer and I having the following problem: [...]=20 /usr/src/sys/modules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_stat.c: In function 'svr4_= sys_systeminfo':/usr/src/sys/modules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_stat.c:461= : error: 'hostid' undeclared (first use in this function)/usr/src/sys/modul= es/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_stat.c:461: error: (Each undeclared identifi= er is reported only once/usr/src/sys/modules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_st= at.c:461: error: for each function it appears in.)*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/svr4.*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FW.*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src.*** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. =20 =20 How can I solve this problem=2C please? =20 =20 I attached these files: =20 compile.tar =20 FW -> kernel config file =20 dmesg.boot =20 compiler.end - it is the exit from "make buidkernel 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tSsQHea7t0vlLhhQVNKl7iYM6C8HOfKAJLsLHfCXg/vHxDsrqSfuJNKFMiVNDThiwq2H +P58bX09quiHL4i6Ozd+JYhUyRcWtPFCyO8TM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fNYpA4QiaCay3mDna5Tx/AMUqH7fVMRSnPuG92AO6mL8ZTaElzqTCZpz6n3aH8oCdE p5wkI7njg6hNBiYjWbHMFf9Q+TTFu+dPG9MIQlBvsAyjBklY3mqzykQN83jtUdqfhFXn ymJQ1aEgGBkC63XsOa/2xBUHEvXJQYMX5Ut+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.82.79 with SMTP id a15mr1501572qcl.57.1243793848650; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:17:28 -0700 Message-ID: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> From: Kelly Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:17:29 -0000 How do I wait for a specific process to die? I want to do something like: waitpid 1234&&(echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) I'm sure this is trivial, but I can't find a way to do it. I wrote a Perl script that checks every second if /proc/pid exists, but that only works if /proc is mounted + I'm now on VMs which can't easily mount /proc -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 18:29:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC5C1065674 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8668C8FC0A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so7237757bwz.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:29:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CzOqlE639S1zhsLWR28sB78xHy7e+Syeq7Y0fGSfnac=; b=K33152eQepo6rQnq05oOXIM8wimlu5I8m1HLZN4wcVcLJawECKXyBRIWo3KfPsqTCc lZz96AGKAZ58EYYhKE/+9kllXIxfxV31BVa+Q9zzriZeU0FHkKOaymEZlZ44NMe+IwTr MgO1MxQVpfU0BmD7S7yzVPU0e/9eTjYnHRwnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KxWNf2tXWOr2ZHzMYrh1fLS4KXsHts7ZSA1u4w4/3m9XMswSqmrZW9pBMbivJkGk8b YOvXwS7a5KO/r1u3AuwdzMSYLkVXJt/f1kc/jnHslKXA13jouobMoovzDsN/5UQ3TUnk w+XNaBtux6UPzQaNnNIFJv3EUYyIXSt9gcQvc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.117.142 with SMTP id r14mr4796750bkq.197.1243794541126; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:29:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:28:41 +0100 Message-ID: To: Kelly Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:29:03 -0000 2009/5/31 Kelly Jones : > How do I wait for a specific process to die? I want to do something like: > > waitpid 1234&&(echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) > > I'm sure this is trivial, but I can't find a way to do it. > > I wrote a Perl script that checks every second if /proc/pid exists, > but that only works if /proc is mounted + I'm now on VMs which can't > easily mount /proc > > -- > We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying > to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to > new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. [ `ps ax |grep pid | wc -l ` = 1 ] && (echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 18:40:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8331B1065670 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f173.google.com (mail-qy0-f173.google.com [209.85.221.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397F38FC08 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so10363102qyk.3 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:40:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=d4ColKSk2HVFm0tXyLjxepRmcVdXMeu+WEg9tRVWKzE=; b=f7oTjwNeYXLlFjT+2nRNx+9g7IfgxoCmB09Ab6n0pr0D34lNpbsYNYG7+MXYaAZB7h SUs8PjjEaNWnlTDyqd6qWebnbY/ZCMv+LqocNdIvftImA/damp8D0Nl7hymIS6w/eZZ3 9HQpRcsvfOQSGWtiDnTy6Y7aVdoyJPH7WF5d0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=V2tXcG+esAjYMHkE3jQQlhB7pcFigTZQMEfyPZHIY14eTOCzU2J4/Co6lxemHwNSge Hh+hSiWzmb5FYvbr7aI/DoYnYO7pl+Jyvdp0KsS8JzylDbo7yfcpki2w1afPMSPNRhxk 0JhVNSQ78vincUeeiB94TunKO3PWgrNCN17fI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.90.199 with SMTP id j7mr3348876vcm.57.1243795202118; Sun, 31 May 2009 11:40:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44ws7x5kho.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <1b30fd140905291235q7f45e6c3x7dcba8a8e88cf3ca@mail.gmail.com> <44ws7x5kho.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> From: Tim Judd Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:39:42 -0600 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: davidcollins001@gmail.com Subject: Re: portupgrade jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:40:03 -0000 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Lowell Gilbert < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > David Collins writes: > > > I have several jails for the purpose of not trashing my root partition > > with junk programs that I may not need and also to learn how to run > > various system services, ie dns, http, mysql, samba etc. I have been > > running them for a while and have only just updated the jail root > > after rebuilding world. > > > > I have been using portupgrade to rebuild the host ports I have > > installed. What I would like it know is if it is possible to use > > portupgrade on the host system to update the jail ports. So like when > > rebuilding world a destdir is specified and is populated with the new > > world, is it possible to do the same with portupgrade? The reason is > > because I don't want to have to install portupgrade and ruby several > > times, also I can script the upgrade easily too. > > > > I have been reading through the ports and portupgrade man pages and > > setting environment variables to the appropriate directories in the > > jail to try to get this to work but so far no luck. Portupgrade wants > > to upgrade the host ports > > > > Here is what I have tried so far: > > > > viper:~$ export DISTDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/tmp/ > > viper:~$ export WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/jails/xserver/var/tmp/ > > viper:~$ export PREFIX=/usr/jails/xserver/usr/local/ > > viper:~$ export BATCH=yes > > viper:~$ export PORT_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/p > > viper:~$ export PORT_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/ports > > viper:~$ export PKG_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/pkg/ > > viper:~$ export PORTS_DBDIR=/usr/jails/xserver/var/db/ports > > viper:~$ > > viper:~$ sudo portupgrade -narR > > It sounds like PREFIX is the one you're not picking up. > > Perhaps it's being overridden by one of your makefiles, or by > portupgrade's configuration files? > Or portupgrade is using the same souce as pkg_* tools, /var/db/pkg Or portupgrade is using pkg_* tools. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 18:47:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853C6106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakerdoomer@fmguy.com) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3A08FC12 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakerdoomer@fmguy.com) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726C33488AC for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 14:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web8.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.217]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 31 May 2009 14:32:40 -0400 Received: by web8.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4A3A4EBBEF; Sun, 31 May 2009 14:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1243794760.10762.1318068173@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: aucZPCEa79uLEmWfy4X6778IWFeH4WZmOm8zpgo7ljIE 1243794760 From: "Azim" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:32:40 +0300 Subject: Mounting Encrypted ISO and mdconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:47:56 -0000 Does FreeBSD or any BSD/OS have "mount -o encryption" support ? I want to pipe aespipe and mount an encrypted iso. I have already checked on FreeBSD 7.1 amd64 that loop option isn't available, so I am sticking to mdconfig and vnconfig on old versions. If not then, Is it possible to pipe aespipe with mdconfig How do you on-the-fly-mount an Encrypted ISO under FreeBSD ? Regards, QD -- Azim quakerdoomer@fmguy.com //////////////////////////////////////////// “You can only get smarter by playing a smarter opponent." “The greatest enemy will hide in the last place you would ever look.” “The harder the battle, the sweeter the victory.” __________________ `---- """""""""""""""""""""""""""|] /_ ==o _____ ___________|" ),---.(_(___) / // (\) ),----" //....// '----- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 19:33:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EEC1065678 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f163.google.com (mail-fx0-f163.google.com [209.85.220.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498E88FC23 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so713904fxm.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:33:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xefIa/kmnlYph8E1VcfXj4Iq5r8kzMJtLt/2lNQ2Z/E=; b=WA9BAgav1Gvyns++nuTUKB4Mqg9v0er+lX+9kGJQfOrgMzuQTogOpkgmIPLxVbcwXL 5Zst7ONjgdF7B3lVSBKoEzZ1Ozy281/Vsk2M9AlJmB9AMT/2ZQ9SKcUl3rpwxJXuYBJH udEwaHAYOxQ3TAPM3EMFuBiqnXBbZ9+x+nCss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q8fZBfcnQ1tAXuJiVmcb/cbujH6M8+WdXpuQPJJ5W+v4MVT0IesTjczfUHpk16UUqw NN/dSTuUwJbNJgGJkLMRmcwlPD210u4+D/sUJRakHAws+pPhGyw3aFMA+J72AHDECQ7h lekP8vTeSimODnqG+dRq7WRbfy6IGYQYRk6x4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.57.18 with SMTP id a18mr4965076bkh.19.1243798386104; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:33:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:32:46 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rodrigo Vilanova Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel compile problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:33:08 -0000 2009/5/31 Rodrigo Vilanova : > > Hi there, > > > =A0I want to use FreeBSD 7.2 as a simple firewall and VPN at home. I=92ve= a > dedicated computer to this. > > > =A0I=92m trying to compile my FreeBSD 7.2 Kernel on my computer and I hav= ing > the following problem: > > > [...] > > /usr/src/sys/modules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_stat.c: In function 'svr= 4_sys_systeminfo':/usr/src/sys/modules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_stat.c:4= 61: error: 'hostid' undeclared (first use in this function)/usr/src/sys/mod= ules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_stat.c:461: error: (Each undeclared identi= fier is reported only once/usr/src/sys/modules/svr4/../../compat/svr4/svr4_= stat.c:461: error: for each function it appears in.)*** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/svr4.*** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.*** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FW.*** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src.*** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > =A0How can I solve this problem, please? > > > > > =A0I attached these files: > > > > compile.tar > > > =A0FW -> kernel config file > > > =A0dmesg.boot > > > =A0compiler.end - it is the exit from "make buidkernel KERNCONF=3DFW" > > > > best regards, > > Cabelyn > Before anyone reads your config file, are you sure the sources are complete? Can you build GENERIC? Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 19:36:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F5E106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F788FC0A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VJZvhN025794; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:35:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VJZuK8025791; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:35:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:35:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <4A2284D6.2080304@locolomo.org> Message-ID: References: <4A2284D6.2080304@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating berkeley DBs (4.3 to 4.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:36:06 -0000 > my data, and I would like to migrate my cyrus-imapd also to a newer version > of BDB. > > Are there any tools or tricks for doing this? possibly it's compatible but if you are not sure use db_dump and _load to dump and restore data. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 19:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B7A106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C808FC1E for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VJeDXr025821; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:40:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VJeDKa025818; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:40:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:40:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kelly Jones In-Reply-To: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:40:23 -0000 > How do I wait for a specific process to die? I want to do something like: > > waitpid 1234&&(echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) if i understand you correctly: your_program parameters & bg_process_number=$! ...something else... wait $bg_process_number echo "done!" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 19:43:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A83106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f163.google.com (mail-fx0-f163.google.com [209.85.220.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6A18FC15 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so717357fxm.43 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1mMOZpe1Uy7urdSwL85E1DH8z52Hb6AGOWKcPndNaIU=; b=K/n7m7ueFtRIhx4hMXa1OO/PfN8nQ8jEziZHcYYRzyUy9x9fe4PQVnyYj5dbIuB6E4 ZvYzml3Z5E5B+9+2uUde1lQ/mF8WaH5+CuB5m2YwxHbPKodZNsQAnLDqNj0fQd+fjZXR jlBqftDDxJVezlaDgEST/LiXcfmEGxpA6YvFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vVXb9flpa/6QRJzuKHhobrbtZX2G+Ab9m5ReY2mAGkAefh5kmvh2uYLMwWE5HX6dv5 OQanCddmQpvD+6v8Py3Utl1lS553IDDrWS/u1FDg3Vm7Us4n2JOMUbpETgzJADGt9tyN qllpAd4pnQGzAJLy8MewA9XdOh2gw52HTOKS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.5 with SMTP id f5mr4855114bkg.203.1243798997207; Sun, 31 May 2009 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:42:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:43:19 -0000 2009/5/31 Wojciech Puchar : > >> How do I wait for a specific process to die? I want to do something like: >> >> waitpid 1234&&(echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC DONE" >> kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) > > if i understand you correctly: > > your_program parameters & > bg_process_number=$! > > ...something else... > > wait $bg_process_number > echo "done!" > > Er, yeah, actually a much better idea than mine. Ignore my previous suggestion :) Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 19:44:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AEB106567A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429448FC17 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 31 May 2009 15:44:25 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id PXY55452; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 31 May 2009 15:44:25 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18978.56856.705030.492797@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:44:24 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: changing tab stops X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:44:26 -0000 I have a C program that writes to a terminal (currently xterm, but could be anything). For reasons I won't go into, I would like to read and change the terminal's tab stops ... from within the program ... in a generic/portable way. Is this possible? If so, what are the keywords associated with my first clue? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 19:46:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AB91065673 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scs@eecs.berkeley.edu) Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E276A8FC1A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scs@eecs.berkeley.edu) Received: from scs.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (steven@scs.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.34.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.3/8.13.5) with ESMTP id n4VJkujo005533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 31 May 2009 12:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A22DDAD.8070504@eecs.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:42:37 -0700 From: Steven Schlansker User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: utisoft@gmail.com References: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:46:59 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > [ `ps ax |grep pid | wc -l ` = 1 ] && (echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC > DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) > Not always going to work. For example, [steven@scs:~]% ps ax | grep init 1 ? Ss 0:39 init [2] 13421 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep init Also if you use its pid, 1, you get a whole bunch of uninteresting processes as you're grepping for "1" ;) [steven@scs:~]% ps ax | grep 1 | wc -l 94 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 20:07:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843C91065672 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordofhyphens@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366898FC20 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordofhyphens@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so3720828yxb.13 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/OTQidmCCJXPuFhsqhffszzPIB3RC4/kd0ial8DJU9s=; b=PXoHlwkxxxJwOtzI5r7Oqfc86+GqhoGHSOUm5NPXCe3ukQXib8zycFjgiwSLzlSMMl 851n7Jl6zPNbcFIHBhLxvWo0Z/W3D/n/KtX+2HwLNEJEO5twidO55dMkriUV8YfNimqQ C5V2ytxHKBwjvBuhaDiDAQ2hUbCLkP2VcVOBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vUIGEC55h5+8csc+cmj63CuWH2vsMzKyW5r3b3bpPvZ4CJCyjwoVcgMuhceSmA9kp2 S7ACFqvjC3LLmXgOIIGKFTuAR18RvVc5sxFDIhu0c6cGwtbg06V7+o+5xZVYamMIS88/ wjHvgtUtwSt6wGyHVqvTloK+rPC950QJa5J4I= Received: by 10.90.49.8 with SMTP id w8mr4480616agw.48.1243800424461; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.144? (173-23-69-3.client.mchsi.com [173.23.69.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm6096577agb.53.2009.05.31.13.07.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 31 May 2009 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A22E35D.4080606@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:06:53 -0500 From: LoH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <4A220EC4.7010202@gmail.com> <3a142e750905310223keef56e7y7db0ebcb8bbae066@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905310223keef56e7y7db0ebcb8bbae066@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE] Audio going silent after wakeup. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:07:06 -0000 Unloading the module, letting it suspend on its own, then waking it up and reloading the module does not cause the symptoms to appear. Wish I knew offhand what was being called to let it suspend, and which state it was. Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 5/31/09, LoH wrote: > >> After setting up an Audigy2ZS with the emu10kx kernel driver, I found >> that after the machine goes into a suspend mode and wakes up, the sound >> stops playing. Unloading and reloading the kernel drivers (sound.ko and >> snd_emu10kx.ko) doesn't appear to do anything. I tested with an external >> line device and mplayer. >> >> A reboot clears up the symptoms. >> >> Has anyone else noticed this before? Is there a way to get the problem >> to sit up and bark without doing a complete reboot? >> > > WHat happens if you unload module before suspending? > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 20:10:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67504106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C108FC0C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlAOALqAIkrUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACBSYkRhEG9BwiEBAU Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 31 May 2009 21:10:29 +0100 Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1MArMS-0000ig-TA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: <0690E2A8B16B4C0C8D9A734F1FF0A232@main> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20090530160540.E9D361065762@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:10:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 211be657c3ba0fcf41312e505335afd3 Subject: Re: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:10:31 -0000 Sorry to keep banging on about this but does anyone actually have uk pound signs working in 7.2? What font and keymap are you using? And, what actually is the process for reporting bugs or getting help with problem like this. Any advice appreciated even from Mr Puchar :)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 20:13:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9D51065672 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4C8FC14 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VKD6PW026078; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:13:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VKD6Fi026075; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:13:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:13:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: <0690E2A8B16B4C0C8D9A734F1FF0A232@main> Message-ID: References: <20090530160540.E9D361065762@hub.freebsd.org> <0690E2A8B16B4C0C8D9A734F1FF0A232@main> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:13:20 -0000 > bugs or getting help with problem like this. Any advice appreciated > even from Mr Puchar :)) who don't use UK keyboard and pound sign. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 20:55:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410C7106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9118FC14 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so3815943qwe.7 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:55:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=NMfawYX6Dt2eBBVZBeFc+sCm3i1nVptTASqnC2aLRBk=; b=hgB/I2khPf14Pw2r358zpdp89IeLwR3UwGXoRQJEqCOR19HiyOQbIVBR/+texmiOCF u1xVj8aaxssQTkX7sliPZcT/STP7KyjVNDGYsXhSmWSndY/oPtAPCVZTPlTCaFcKwYJy YYK/fB+cxsFImJtnJKCkvSRsbaZ+c08OL4lD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OYLGczVE92mz8Y+dXOj7PjfUhPw8uDg+9qk84TFCC0LuXWvNKFa2teRbhfgDnVJMLB bpJpavycQYqvrxggejhENp9w6GQXMnze7xVZCuii+d0+lfVjR5FSyY1AxQ9xD3NiH1Ug R0QmNrbXxRJHxBnpHvhcnxe10Vb/VzRjCz5fg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.46.85 with SMTP id i21mr3490753vcf.19.1243803318300; Sun, 31 May 2009 13:55:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Judd Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:54:58 -0600 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: dual gateways X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:55:19 -0000 I know it is not typical, but here's my setup. I have a private IP scope (/24 block) split up. 2 /25's I have a box that has dual NICs. One is on the low /25 and one is on the high /25. The high /25 is only used for jails and his gateway is a soekris/alix board that will function. I can't find out how to get the high /25 to assign an additional gateway that's directed toward the soekris/alix SBC. Any tips or advice on how I can setup the high netblock to get it to route successfully to the SBC? and Woj cannot reply to my message, I'm tired of your BS on this list. Don't do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 21:04:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9424106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8BF8FC1C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MAsCJ-0003VH-6n; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:04:03 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n4VL42ko002973; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:04:02 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2B0CDFCA505; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:03:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:03:57 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Steven Schlansker Message-ID: <20090531210357.GA60342@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Steven Schlansker , utisoft@gmail.com, Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> <4A22DDAD.8070504@eecs.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A22DDAD.8070504@eecs.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 31 May 2009 22:04:02 +0100 (BST) Cc: Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:04:14 -0000 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:42:37PM -0700, Steven Schlansker wrote: > > Chris Rees wrote: > >[ `ps ax |grep pid | wc -l ` = 1 ] && (echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC > >DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) > > > > Not always going to work. For example, > > [steven@scs:~]% ps ax | grep init > 1 ? Ss 0:39 init [2] > 13421 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep init This is why you should use pgrep(1) to find a PID (and kill it) rather than directly grepping a ps output like the previous poster did. > > Also if you use its pid, 1, you get a whole bunch of uninteresting > processes as you're grepping for "1" ;) > > [steven@scs:~]% ps ax | grep 1 | wc -l > 94 > Wojcech nailed the approach the OP should be using. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 21:13:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA2C106564A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EA58FC08 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from beta.locolomo.org (beta.locolomo.org [172.16.0.32]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EBF11C0847; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:13:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A22F2E8.10604@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:13:12 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4A2284D6.2080304@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating berkeley DBs (4.3 to 4.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:13:14 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> my data, and I would like to migrate my cyrus-imapd also to a newer version >> of BDB. >> >> Are there any tools or tricks for doing this? > > possibly it's compatible but if you are not sure use db_dump and > _load to dump and restore data. Thanks, I've had a look at the dump and load utilities, they have no man page :( dump works fine, or so I assume. But load fails, it appears that db_load won't create a new db file if it does not exist, and creating an empty file with touch fails too: alpha$ db_dump-4.3 -f cn.bdb.dump cn.bdb alpha$ db_load-4.6 -f cn.bdb.dump cn46.bdb db_load-4.6: Program version 4.6 doesn't match environment version 0.154 db_load-4.6: DB_ENV->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version mismatch The "environment version" varies. Any hints on how to use these utilities to migrate? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 21:15:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2B0106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2D3B8FC1E for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 May 2009 21:15:54 -0000 Received: from ipa175.88.107.79.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.254.1]) [79.107.88.175] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu003) with SMTP; 31 May 2009 23:15:54 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1GhBdcbD1phHAW7TvOFzD4jbLJJ7KT7s3zvRLja Xqy996AINcICq5 Message-ID: <4A22F34B.1030908@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:14:51 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Schlansker , utisoft@gmail.com, Kelly Jones , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26face530905311117te38a4faya92733fbfebd9597@mail.gmail.com> <4A22DDAD.8070504@eecs.berkeley.edu> <20090531210357.GA60342@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090531210357.GA60342@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.58 Cc: Subject: Re: Waiting for a process to die X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:15:56 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:42:37PM -0700, Steven Schlansker wrote: >> Chris Rees wrote: >>> [ `ps ax |grep pid | wc -l ` = 1 ] && (echo "done!" | Mail -s "PROC >>> DONE" kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) >>> >> Not always going to work. For example, >> >> [steven@scs:~]% ps ax | grep init >> 1 ? Ss 0:39 init [2] >> 13421 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep init > > This is why you should use pgrep(1) to find a PID (and kill it) rather > than directly grepping a ps output like the previous poster did. Yes, pgrep is the tool. If you already know the pid, you can use good old ps: ps 1 && echo init runs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 21:59:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FD41065672 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2E48FC19 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4VLxcBn026615; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:59:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4VLxccL026612; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:59:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:59:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <4A22F2E8.10604@locolomo.org> Message-ID: References: <4A2284D6.2080304@locolomo.org> <4A22F2E8.10604@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrating berkeley DBs (4.3 to 4.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:59:51 -0000 >>> Are there any tools or tricks for doing this? >> >> possibly it's compatible but if you are not sure use db_dump and >> _load to dump and restore data. > > Thanks, I've had a look at the dump and load utilities, they have no man page it's not FreeBSD but GNU. No man is equivalent of "read documentation in info or out webpage" ;) > :( dump works fine, or so I assume. But load fails, it appears that db_load > won't create a new db file if it does not exist, and creating an empty file > with touch fails too: > > alpha$ db_dump-4.3 -f cn.bdb.dump cn.bdb > alpha$ db_load-4.6 -f cn.bdb.dump cn46.bdb > db_load-4.6: Program version 4.6 doesn't match environment version 0.154 > db_load-4.6: DB_ENV->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version > mismatch ups. really i use only db4.1 and it worked don't you have mixed libs and executables. looks like this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 22:29:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F676106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@ivangelion.tw) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113658FC19 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@ivangelion.tw) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so3831163qwe.7 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:29:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.70.141 with SMTP id d13mr1494765qcj.70.1243808944858; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090510180012.GA87871@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <173f52ec0905100208sda471d2q31534ca168650d63@mail.gmail.com> <20090510180012.GA87871@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> From: Chun-fan Ivan Liao Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:28:43 +0800 Message-ID: <173f52ec0905311528y73655d51me6ff56ea4c34f0d5@mail.gmail.com> To: Frank Shute , Chun-fan Ivan Liao , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, apcupsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: 4 apcupsd problems using USB to connect on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:06 -0000 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Frank Shute wrote: > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 05:08:03PM +0800, Chun-fan Ivan Liao wrote: > > > > OS version: FreeBSD 7.2 RELEASE > > apcupsd version: 3.14.5 > > UPS model: APC-MGE Back-UPS RS 1000VA (BR1000TW) > > UPS cable type: usb > > > > 3 important lines in /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf: > > --------- > > UPSCABLE usb > > UPSTYPE usb > > DEVICE > > --------- > > Other lines are default. > > I've got an APC SmartUPS 750 (USB on 6.4-RELEASE). > > When I hacked my apcupsd.conf (sometime ago now), I put in: > > DEVICE ugen0 > > I don't know if that's your problem i.e: you haven't specified the > DEVICE. > The reason that I did not specify the DEVICE is because the instruction in apcupsd.conf said so. And specifying DEVICE ugen0 yielded the same result. > > > > > > Problem Description: > > 1. > > The APC box cannot be detected when connected to the FreeBSD system on > > system boot. (apcupsd_enable=3D"YES" is set in /etc/rc.conf ) > > > > The associated messages in /var/log/messages: > > --------- > > May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in > > bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed > > USB trouble shooting information, please see > > . > > May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd error shutdown com= pleted > > --------- > > > > 2. > > Continuing 1, if I unplug the connecting USB then re-plug it to the > > same port, the USB cannot be identified. > > > > The associated message in /var/log/messages: > > --------- > > May 10 16:36:17 aura-cosmetics kernel: uhub0: device problem > > (TIMEOUT), disabling port 3 > > --------- > > > > 3. > > Contiuning 2, changing the port to plug the USB will do, and > > /var/log/messages reads: > > --------- > > May 10 16:41:07 aura-cosmetics root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x051d > > product 0x0002 bus uhub1 > > May 10 16:41:08 aura-cosmetics kernel: ugen0: > Conversion Back-UPS RS 1000 FW:7.g9a.D USB FW:g9a, class 0/0, rev > > 1.10/1.06, addr 2> on uhub1 > > --------- > > > > But when starting the apcupsd now using [apcupsd start], there is no > > "freebsd startup succeeded" message appearing in /var/log/messages. > > > > However using [ps ax| grep apcupsd], there is the following associated > > procedure in the standard output: > > --------- > > 1264=C2=A0 ??=C2=A0 Ss=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0:00.01 apcupsd start > > --------- > > > > 4. > > The last problem continuing 3, if stopping the apcupsd now using > > [apcupsd stop], the following error messages occur in > > /var/log/messages: > > --------- > > May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1270]: Valid lock file for > > pid=3D1264, but not ours pid=3D1270 > > May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in > > bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed > > USB trouble shooting information, please see > > . > > May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: Valid lock file for > > pid=3D1264, but not ours pid=3D1271 > > May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: apcupsd error shutdown co= mpleted > > --------- > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > -- > > =C2=A0Frank > > > =C2=A0Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 22:31:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0384A106566C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B008FC13 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n4VMWn90001077 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:40 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090531223136.GA9212@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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