From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 00:22:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADBB106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000818FC1D for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so4235360gxk.19 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vluznhFjCFO8eXsFKc+1MCq2mMMlGdcZyb1+Rsp9+A8=; b=SYjNOBjysSiEbT/y6jseoTng/QCVWO9y8+GSixQNT4o6J1jvc4/x/KMEWsOQwo70T4 H+1oqG+DmmC0uFDN/V3KdA5Ij3sYcwXZIajrbh75VzRXmpbIOM4aqv7Itv6AicUHq+kR YgHWBjgh8soHbR5hEskqhtb/6GOw9n1HzxtSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=S3lVs8Cem/MlZwhq+v8PQeWbchTyVLOT1ZkEGqkBZk82/M42NQ3nyz5r7fXEsJWqCA yYmfXzuX6thogv9B4OAehTdKx73uUOTw+Jo1b72KuOG6X0AMaOLeSVAqEebeMjo95eoe r0XsnNuKDuLK2dTSVkq2I50l6m7OEwTAsgj+o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.92.18 with SMTP id p18mr8198562ybb.299.1248567773295; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:22:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:22:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:22:54 -0000 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PJ wrote: > Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, PJ > > wrote: > > > > Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY installed Adobe Flash for Firefox on FBSD 7= .2 > > running on amd64? > > I have managed to install about everything I need on an Acer > > TravelMate > > 4400 except Flash. > > I have found that someone did install it in version 7.1 but the sam= e > > procedures do not work on 7.2. linux_base-f8 ("linux_base-f8-8_11 > > compat.linuxosrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported.") > > Installed is linux_base-fc-4_14 is currently installed. > > linux_base-f10-10 is asking to use version 2.6.16 > > Surely some version of Flash should be functional on FBSD 7.2 > > TIA > > > > -- > > Herv=E9 Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan=E8te, sortez du capitalisme." > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > > > > > Sure it's no different than i386. You need to set linux kernel > > version to 2.6.16 in /etc/sysctl.conf then remove f4 and install f8 or > > f10. > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > Thanks for the prompt answer Adam, > > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 & sctl.conf set to 2.6.16. I > tried installing flash but here's what I get. > > "The current linux-f8-flashplugin10 spews out: > =3D=3D=3D> linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 bsd.linux-apps.mk test failed: The > component nss is not defined for LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX=3D (the corresponding > variable nss_FILE is not defined). > *** Error code 1" > > linux_base-fc-4-14 was installed as a dependency by some other program. > What happens if I remofe it? > > > -- > Herv=E9 Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan=E8te, sortez du capitalisme." > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > http://www.ptahhotep.com > http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php > > In my experience, upgrading linux base hasn't broken anything as long as proper steps are taken. Boris was correct in referencing /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on upgrading it. There are important steps there. Also the original post had an error that reflected the sysctl not being set correctly. Generally, sysctl.conf is only run at boot. If you're just getting starting in BSD, it is probably easier to just remember to reboot after changing files like /etc/sysctl.conf and /boot/loader.conf. It's more complicated than that and this introduces some unnecessary steps but it's a lot easier to remember for someone new to this enviroment. --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 00:57:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911FF106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EE48FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KND006FB6N17PE0@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A6BA9E2.20609@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:57:06 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Adam Vande More References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:57:02 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PJ > wrote: > > Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, PJ > > >> wrote: > > > > Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY installed Adobe Flash for Firefox on > FBSD 7.2 > > running on amd64? > > I have managed to install about everything I need on an Acer > > TravelMate > > 4400 except Flash. > > I have found that someone did install it in version 7.1 but > the same > > procedures do not work on 7.2. linux_base-f8 > ("linux_base-f8-8_11 > > compat.linuxosrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported.") > > Installed is linux_base-fc-4_14 is currently installed. > > linux_base-f10-10 is asking to use version 2.6.16 > > Surely some version of Flash should be functional on FBSD 7.2 > > TIA > > > > -- > > Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > > > > > > > Sure it's no different than i386. You need to set linux kernel > > version to 2.6.16 in /etc/sysctl.conf then remove f4 and install > f8 or > > f10. > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > Thanks for the prompt answer Adam, > > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 & sctl.conf set to > 2.6.16. I > tried installing flash but here's what I get. > > "The current linux-f8-flashplugin10 spews out: > ===> linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 bsd.linux-apps.mk > test failed: The > component nss is not defined for LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX= (the corresponding > variable nss_FILE is not defined). > *** Error code 1" > > linux_base-fc-4-14 was installed as a dependency by some other > program. > What happens if I remofe it? > > > -- > Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > http://www.ptahhotep.com > http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php > > > In my experience, upgrading linux base hasn't broken anything as long > as proper steps are taken. Boris was correct in referencing > /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on upgrading it. There are > important steps there. Also the original post had an error that > reflected the sysctl not being set correctly. Generally, sysctl.conf > is only run at boot. If you're just getting starting in BSD, it is > probably easier to just remember to reboot after changing files like > /etc/sysctl.conf and /boot/loader.conf. It's more complicated than > that and this introduces some unnecessary steps but it's a lot easier > to remember for someone new to this enviroment. > > -- > Adam Vande More I'm afraid that I am a little lost here. I have had a few problems configuring ports on previous installations, but I hagve always managed to ge them done. Usually, with a little help to find my own silly little mistakes like typos and just not paying attention. But up to now, I have never been able to install Flash on any previous distributions. Anyway, I now have flash installed... it does not work. I have also acroread9 installed... it does not want to work... it loads up, the panel comes up and last about 1-2 seconds and dies. That's nice. I went to the trouble to install it and it doesn't work. Any suggestions what to do, look for, or whatever befor I trash all this stuff and go back to MicroSlop. Thanks again...I've had enough for today... gotta get some sleep. It's been a miserable week installing and reinstalling 7.2 on amd64... and I was just beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel... :'( -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 01:12:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DACF106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E568FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from tim-kellerss-macbook-pro.local (www.smsd.tv [96.57.143.18]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KND00D4O7D7FJB0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:12:43 -0400 From: Tim Kellers In-reply-to: <4A6B0E64.2000607@wallnet.com> To: Michel Talon Message-id: <4A6BAD8B.5020007@wallnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20090725070336.GA12539@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4A6B0E64.2000607@wallnet.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INN configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:12:45 -0000 Tim Kellers wrote: > Michel Talon wrote: >> Tim Kellers said: >> >>> -Has anyone set up a n INN server on freebsd, successfuly? >>> >> >> Yes, no problem. Have you read the Inn install doc in >> /usr/local/share/doc/inn/INSTALL >> This is a step by step guide to the *long* configuration. >> >> Note that if you want to suck in news from another news server you also >> need some other software, the best one being newsx (in the ports). >> >> You also need to edit the "active" file to add newsgroups. >> >> >> > Thanks, > > I think my problem may be my not having other software to grab the > news from an upstream news server. I'll take a look at newsx. The > configuration is long for sure, but I've been through it so many times > in the past few days that I think I'm getting better at it. :-) > > I'll report my success/failures as soon as I can get back on it. > > Tim > > > Looks like newsx was the solution I was looking for. So far, it is pulling the articles from my active groups from my upstream provider. I assume from the docs I have to run rnews -U after this immense pull has completed. Thanks for all the help Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 01:19:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00F106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5728FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n6Q1Jjf1014880 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:19:45 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n6Q1JjHF014879; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:19:45 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id AC51DB7E0; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:29:18 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <200907231025.49916.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> (message from Mel Flynn on Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:25:49 -0800) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:19:46 -0000 >> On Thursday 23 July 2009 09:41:26 Karl Vogel wrote: K> Every version of Unix I've ever used had an upper limit on the size of K> the argument list you could pass to a program, so it won't just be "ls" K> that's affected here. That's why I use 1,000 as a rule of thumb for the K> maximum number of files I put in a directory. >> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:25:49 -0800, >> Mel Flynn said: M> That arbitrary number works simply because kern.argmax default has been M> raised somewhere in 6.x (before it was 64kB). That arbitrary number has worked very nicely for me for 20 years under Solaris, Linux, and several BSD variants. The main reason I stick with 1000 is because directories are read linearly unless you're using something like ReiserFS, and I get impatient waiting for more than that number of filenames to be sorted when using ls. M> And MAXNAMLEN in sys/dirent.h is 255. That's the maximum length of a single filename in a directory. Since I keep my filenames much shorter, I don't have a problem. M> Knowing your way around maximum arguments length through xargs as M> suggested in this thread is much better solution then trying to exercise M> control over directory sizes, which may or not be under your control in M> the first place. Xargs is very useful, but it's not a substitute for poor design, and it's not something you can drop into any existing pipeline without a little thought first. If your application is trying to create hundreds of thousands or millions of files in any one directory, or you're creating lots of 200-character filenames from hell, then your design is a poor match for most varieties of Unix; small directories perform better than enormous ones, and lots of commonly-used scripts and programs will fall over when handed zillion-file argument lists. I'm sure the latest version of fixes all these objections, but not everyone gets to run the latest and greatest. Don't fight your filesystem, and it won't fight you. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Birds of a feather flock together and usually crap on your car. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 01:33:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C4E106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF298FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so4266353gxk.19 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:33:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QrdrZfYYdAEDZJYHJeg8lJ0yTUMYOhJP4HqW+nMBIxg=; b=BWtjeWC77rEFYmQ4H8F5+wu2qYw4YmqogNy0Haqw2+kykmBftomxVQ/GnVth10G2Vo ZamyIivG+5i3W3bCPmIOgmNTsLYEK/oUsjqC4joX6jAiw7hSec8KpBtgZMzm330Gp6D9 6105wFiSm5Y9CQLWKeN6/x13VniaQz7Xoy2ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jzCeP4wSOveKMM+97hJlj+8wk17zUjQJBGslsLZ0A08K2Hm/RgNe+vqvaXjKbjUXLo KBYa/izcmBVQbiueuBWEWjqvg5d4VcHXRKOkRcHlKDa4fx41K2T8LpGclEKsThc1SxVB Dq3wSbD10nGMcgsKo54J0f/4p6vdmv2KDEYxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.146.6 with SMTP id t6mr8290503ybd.19.1248571980866; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:33:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A6BA9E2.20609@videotron.ca> References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BA9E2.20609@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:33:00 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907251833o52e24c2cuda02bf172530bb26@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:33:02 -0000 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:57 PM, PJ wrote: > Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PJ > > wrote: > > > > Adam Vande More wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, PJ > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY installed Adobe Flash for Firefox on > > FBSD 7.2 > > > running on amd64? > > > I have managed to install about everything I need on an Acer > > > TravelMate > > > 4400 except Flash. > > > I have found that someone did install it in version 7.1 but > > the same > > > procedures do not work on 7.2. linux_base-f8 > > ("linux_base-f8-8_11 > > > compat.linuxosrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported.") > > > Installed is linux_base-fc-4_14 is currently installed. > > > linux_base-f10-10 is asking to use version 2.6.16 > > > Surely some version of Flash should be functional on FBSD 7.2 > > > TIA > > > > > > -- > > > Herv=E9 Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan=E8te, sortez du capitalis= me." > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure it's no different than i386. You need to set linux kernel > > > version to 2.6.16 in /etc/sysctl.conf then remove f4 and install > > f8 or > > > f10. > > > > > > -- > > > Adam Vande More > > Thanks for the prompt answer Adam, > > > > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 & sctl.conf set to > > 2.6.16. I > > tried installing flash but here's what I get. > > > > "The current linux-f8-flashplugin10 spews out: > > =3D=3D=3D> linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 bsd.linux-apps.mk > > test failed: The > > component nss is not defined for LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX=3D (the > corresponding > > variable nss_FILE is not defined). > > *** Error code 1" > > > > linux_base-fc-4-14 was installed as a dependency by some other > > program. > > What happens if I remofe it? > > > > > > -- > > Herv=E9 Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan=E8te, sortez du capitalisme." > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > http://www.ptahhotep.com > > http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php > > > > > > In my experience, upgrading linux base hasn't broken anything as long > > as proper steps are taken. Boris was correct in referencing > > /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on upgrading it. There are > > important steps there. Also the original post had an error that > > reflected the sysctl not being set correctly. Generally, sysctl.conf > > is only run at boot. If you're just getting starting in BSD, it is > > probably easier to just remember to reboot after changing files like > > /etc/sysctl.conf and /boot/loader.conf. It's more complicated than > > that and this introduces some unnecessary steps but it's a lot easier > > to remember for someone new to this enviroment. > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > I'm afraid that I am a little lost here. > I have had a few problems configuring ports on previous installations, > but I hagve always managed to ge them done. Usually, with a little help > to find my own silly little mistakes like typos and just not paying > attention. > But up to now, I have never been able to install Flash on any previous > distributions. > Anyway, I now have flash installed... it does not work. > I have also acroread9 installed... it does not want to work... it loads > up, the panel comes up and last about 1-2 seconds and dies. > That's nice. I went to the trouble to install it and it doesn't work. > Any suggestions what to do, look for, or whatever befor I trash all this > stuff and go back to MicroSlop. > Thanks again...I've had enough for today... gotta get some sleep. It's > been a miserable week installing and reinstalling 7.2 on amd64... and I > was just beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel... :'( > > Best instructions are found here: http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 I've not had any issue with any freebsd 7.x version including stable, but I didn't run amd64 long. I doubt that is the issue though. --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 01:34:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B15106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246F08FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4347693yxe.3 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=3trleMv3P3zB1LDswpPV0YzyYCDnDe+vvGG3Y8jFV5A=; b=j8KRtsF6igheVQVtiY5Q4gdBb+nWzm/Z6CBk9NWim3WaAdSzyWXt743I59H46vEo07 9sEiNK1ACNqVVOBYkzyHEjwccsWVUDIGiHWwnx5pAE9qZnNtkfj4ElpH2mL79o3JShQ6 pXdcBM33xMpaeURySV1rMoGs1W5r3eJ9C5nOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=LLWIpAHKPGFAd7DgGi69kpomi8xlSsXO4lOLQFIJhEpANHZgvnnX5HQgrEjlTTyZcY OLfcpmA+yCE59I2PhYdWJFGKizNhAfnDIMDa4T8ojxstod6N7plVBxQ3k89pPKE9GDIq A0fuiq1KC7jat9wS1F/r+gQW4WcVpyWdOXOOM= Received: by 10.100.166.13 with SMTP id o13mr6512159ane.103.1248572054662; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip98-163-115-74.dc.dc.cox.net [98.163.115.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d21sm7524965and.14.2009.07.25.18.34.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:34:12 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090726013412.GA1208@stamfordbru> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon References: <20090723174350.GA1346@stamfordbru> <20090724085743.9abb7f2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090724150239.GA1167@stamfordbru> <20090725084138.f4338065.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090725084138.f4338065.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Restarting hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:34:15 -0000 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 08:41:38AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: > > Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've > > ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set > > up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a > > lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. > > I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on > older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work > properly, problems may occur. I'm going to install FBSD 7 on a PII in a few weeks. We'll see how that goes. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 02:03:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5829106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com (mail-yw0-f180.google.com [209.85.211.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966488FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by ywh10 with SMTP id 10so142843ywh.3 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F3vhwDcKqgzrkj5KexI1HrEmw/mk1UODrf0lpL9LHjc=; b=cXr50T7MREv79q7AOXmacQEoIRnRO9At/EgByp0UpkFnBpEDR8jHMDbD6s+9e08HqQ UuVeK9yJRPu/qd2NJdcMq5kyNsVETO5TKB2sBmBEuuMUYueqmUMc1Z3AwdJuxuLjifsc 4ug9eQOyAY9RQTBX4gSlzeth1iPxV+exSXpUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ff8tc98z1vTenuFBiiAWNr/bS3fpWeQTWVEdNjzPiTQHCCDX1j2R2q4A7sQKx8McFl hD03PTkVMpK9aAroxwIDcvCzQcOETlvzS+wGNw9PDKry28pTSloxWQPtovYYNhU/LrG3 /tyyVcBiXSeOtinEMeilNtbDMhU9JhwFA+3UA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.97.18 with SMTP id u18mr8281506ybb.272.1248573815817; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:03:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6201873e0907251833o52e24c2cuda02bf172530bb26@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BA9E2.20609@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251833o52e24c2cuda02bf172530bb26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907251903k12ba0a7ahdd8fa1014e5d067d@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:03:37 -0000 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Adam Vande More wro= te: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:57 PM, PJ wrote: > >> Adam Vande More wrote: >> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PJ > > > wrote: >> > >> > Adam Vande More wrote: >> > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, PJ > > >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > >> > > Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY installed Adobe Flash for Firefox on >> > FBSD 7.2 >> > > running on amd64? >> > > I have managed to install about everything I need on an Acer >> > > TravelMate >> > > 4400 except Flash. >> > > I have found that someone did install it in version 7.1 but >> > the same >> > > procedures do not work on 7.2. linux_base-f8 >> > ("linux_base-f8-8_11 >> > > compat.linuxosrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported.") >> > > Installed is linux_base-fc-4_14 is currently installed. >> > > linux_base-f10-10 is asking to use version 2.6.16 >> > > Surely some version of Flash should be functional on FBSD 7.= 2 >> > > TIA >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Herv=E9 Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan=E8te, sortez du capitali= sme." >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------= - >> > > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Sure it's no different than i386. You need to set linux kernel >> > > version to 2.6.16 in /etc/sysctl.conf then remove f4 and install >> > f8 or >> > > f10. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Adam Vande More >> > Thanks for the prompt answer Adam, >> > >> > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 & sctl.conf set to >> > 2.6.16. I >> > tried installing flash but here's what I get. >> > >> > "The current linux-f8-flashplugin10 spews out: >> > =3D=3D=3D> linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 bsd.linux-apps.mk >> > test failed: The >> > component nss is not defined for LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX=3D (the >> corresponding >> > variable nss_FILE is not defined). >> > *** Error code 1" >> > >> > linux_base-fc-4-14 was installed as a dependency by some other >> > program. >> > What happens if I remofe it? >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Herv=E9 Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan=E8te, sortez du capitalisme." >> > ------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com >> > http://www.ptahhotep.com >> > http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php >> > >> > >> > In my experience, upgrading linux base hasn't broken anything as long >> > as proper steps are taken. Boris was correct in referencing >> > /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on upgrading it. There are >> > important steps there. Also the original post had an error that >> > reflected the sysctl not being set correctly. Generally, sysctl.conf >> > is only run at boot. If you're just getting starting in BSD, it is >> > probably easier to just remember to reboot after changing files like >> > /etc/sysctl.conf and /boot/loader.conf. It's more complicated than >> > that and this introduces some unnecessary steps but it's a lot easier >> > to remember for someone new to this enviroment. >> > >> > -- >> > Adam Vande More >> I'm afraid that I am a little lost here. >> I have had a few problems configuring ports on previous installations, >> but I hagve always managed to ge them done. Usually, with a little help >> to find my own silly little mistakes like typos and just not paying >> attention. >> But up to now, I have never been able to install Flash on any previous >> distributions. >> Anyway, I now have flash installed... it does not work. >> I have also acroread9 installed... it does not want to work... it loads >> up, the panel comes up and last about 1-2 seconds and dies. >> That's nice. I went to the trouble to install it and it doesn't work. >> Any suggestions what to do, look for, or whatever befor I trash all this >> stuff and go back to MicroSlop. >> Thanks again...I've had enough for today... gotta get some sleep. It's >> been a miserable week installing and reinstalling 7.2 on amd64... and I >> was just beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel... :'( >> >> Best instructions are found here: > > http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 > > I've not had any issue with any freebsd 7.x version including stable, but= I > didn't run amd64 long. I doubt that is the issue though. > -- > Adam Vande More > Actually there is a pretty good thread going in stable about this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-July/051292.html --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 02:34:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7601065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com (mail-yw0-f180.google.com [209.85.211.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4168FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by ywh10 with SMTP id 10so145940ywh.3 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:34:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=90yXLAMX1odgTklNRfjbKuwRy5zAtsteLqZ38SpamFI=; b=RN481zdxUoMGx1kqeya0noiAwwl80bkX6ERO5J+AxblDGkV0UadVTsgmKdjMTVpTMa DeYShXW2P+bKVMTILOeOjuhI0cVFVNLNnwessFhBma9Am3ax1Ik3Wg3ZRqQyW0qIvnPY 338zqn0f6qmaALEkrzziWTlFnywSw923oI3wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sW2ncIaseD/v2QiFqRkwA8UkfBgkIa3IFafrwCm+C8JfbudkaIzfc0iK9TQd2Odg2G SP46bDguTXkfh4+c1HRJvxweaKAxwFmWeZUFrUlA/+qiSwFtTEJgSdJ9KbwPPt3pf+Yb 0aVDdOFGSNinI+IO2b3fxYbiDsUJS9gOCWH/8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.87.19 with SMTP id k19mr4481073agb.33.1248575641231; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:34:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:33:41 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750907251933r14f7347dh30d92c2d25f305e8@mail.gmail.com> To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: UFS2 tuning for heterogeneous 4TB file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:34:02 -0000 Hi all, I've spent a few hours now reading on how to set newfs parameters for various environments (many small files, many large files, etc.). I must say that I still don't have a clear picture of the relationships between cylinders, blocks, fragments, and inodes. That's making things difficult for me in figuring out what to use in my situation. The file system in question will not have a common file size (which is what, as I understand, bytes per inode should be tuned for). There will be many small files (< 10 KB) and many large ones (> 500 MB). A similar, in terms of content, 2TB ntfs file system on another server has an average file size of about 26 MB with 59,246 files. Ideally, I would prefer that small files do not waste more than 4 KB of space, which is what you have with ntfs. At the same time, having fsck running for days after an unclean shutdown is also not a good option (I always disable background checking). From what I've gathered so far, the two requirements are at the opposite ends in terms of file system optimization. So the question is what would be the optimal newfs parameters in my situation? Please don't suggest using zfs. Right now I'm in the testing phase and need to get the best configuration for usf2. After that I will give zfs a try. OS is FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 amd64. Thanks for your help, Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 03:56:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51601065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F15B8FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89419EB4FA3; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D9245088; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:46 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qm0r0dIYz4+f; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl129-11.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.248.11]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2728A4503F; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6Q3Wi8I046806 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6Q3WhUY046805; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Steve Bertrand References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:32:32 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> (Steve Bertrand's message of "Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:49:10 -0400") Message-ID: <871vo4p19r.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:56:38 -0000 --=-=-= On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:49:10 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Forgive the verbosity. > > Before anything else, I'd appreciate it if my requirements were actually > read before providing any feedback. I know that there are qualified > persons here to legitimately answer my question, so if a flame war does > ensue, I ask that you refrain from responding. > > I'm looking for a new editor. > > I continue to claim that I am not a programmer, but I'm getting to the > point where my current editor can not do what I need it to do for the > programming I have been doing (90% Perl, a bit of C and the rest is > shell/awk stuff if you want to call that programming). > > Currently, I use "ee". The ONLY reason I have outgrown it, is due to the > fact that I can't find an easy way to change my \t to four chars instead > of eight. Both editors/vim and editors/emacs can do what you describe and a *LOT* more. You should at least try them for a while and see which one of the two fits your style of work better. To get you started by a sneak preview of what they can do, here's a short example of how my .vimrc and .emacs files set options that apply only to C sources. First the ~/.vimrc options: " .vimrc options that apply to all files set softtabstop=8 "how much to indent when TAB is typed set tabstop=8 "how many columns a literal TAB buffer byte indents set textwidth=0 "where do we wrap lines? " vim options that apply only to C sources if !exists("format_keramida_cmode") let format_keramida_cmode = 1 " formatting C code autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead *.c,*.h set autoindent showmatch autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead *.c,*.h set formatoptions=tcq2l textwidth=74 autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead *.c,*.h set shiftwidth=8 softtabstop=8 tabstop=8 noexpandtab endif When using VIM, you can get an indentation style of 4 columns that uses only spaces (no TABs at all) by setting `softtabstop=4' and `expandtabs'. Then the ~/.emacs options for GNU Emacs: (defun keramida/cc-mode/setup () "Configure cc-mode and derivatives for KNF style." (interactive) ;; Basic indent is 8 columns (make-local-variable 'c-basic-offset) (setq c-basic-offset 8) ;; Continuation lines are indented 4 spaces (make-local-variable 'c-offsets-alist) (c-set-offset 'arglist-cont 4) (c-set-offset 'arglist-cont-nonempty 4) (c-set-offset 'statement-cont 4) ;; Fill column (make-local-variable 'fill-column) (setq fill-column 74) ;; Indenting to a tab stop always inserts TAB characters (setq indent-tabs-mode t) (setq c-tab-always-indent t)) ;; Install my own hook for C/C++ mode. (add-hook 'c-mode-common-hook 'keramida/cc-mode/setup) When using Emacs, you can get an indentation style that uses 4 columns and only spaces by setting `indent-tabs-mode' to `nil' and then tweaking `c-basic-offset' to 4: (setq indent-tabs-mode nil) (setq c-basic-offset 4) There are _tons_ of other features in both editors. I lean towards Emacs, because I like the way it works, but you can do so many things with both editors that I have been using both for more than 16 years now. I like both of them :-) --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkprzlsACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7aX1QCgoXIqIgnV3tbsC0dycf0RWHMe oYwAnRITQSVZV6CNNJc2l+G3o5swnxHN =v5L8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 05:29:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855D2106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4185B8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.175.178.79] (helo=moosi) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1MUwIt-000FqW-0v; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:29:47 +0400 To: PJ References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:31:01 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Sat\, 25 Jul 2009 19\:03\:54 -0400") Message-ID: <46921322@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:29:48 -0000 PJ writes: > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 That's wrong. Two linux_base ports should not be installed at a system. Please, read /usr/ports/UPDATING on instructions whow to recover (i.e. do a clean install). I'd recommend deletting /compat/linux/* after you remove all linux ports/packages. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 07:16:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45368106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015008FC41 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D39624931; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6Q7FtjU001482; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:15:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:15:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20090726091555.f3b660a2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090723174350.GA1346@stamfordbru> <20090724085743.9abb7f2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090724150239.GA1167@stamfordbru> <20090725084138.f4338065.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090725190832.11e6843d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Bob Hall Subject: Re: Restarting hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:16:03 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:25:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > Just trying to point out the options, and that a one-line change in > xorg.conf is lower impact than rebuilding xorg-server. That's of course very useful knowledge. > > There are other "workarounds" to get the default stuff working again > > (option Don't-Zap for example), so X installations relying on > > xorg.conf can work again. > > Since some defaults have changed in newer versions of xorg, that last > sentence is confusing. Maybe > > s/default stuff working again/legacy behavior/ > s/work/work as expected/ Much better terminology. :-) But as you will agree, for specific problems, new ways have been introduced, for example "Where do I set the german keyboard layout?" when wanting to use HAL + DBUS in order to get automounting of removable media working better. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 07:30:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF57106564A; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650C18FC0A; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n6Q7Uw5E044241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n6Q7Uvs7044240; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA11549; Sun, 26 Jul 09 00:28:36 PDT Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:25:41 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bsam@ipt.ru Message-Id: <4a6c04f5.kCRwnNHuKXMD2Eoc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <46921322@ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <46921322@ipt.ru> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: af.gourmet@videotron.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: >1 linux_base port (Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:30:59 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > PJ writes: > > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 > That's wrong. Two linux_base ports should not be installed > at a system ... Might it be advisable for each new linux_base port to declare itself incompatible with all earlier ones, to prevent this kind of error? (Cc: ports@) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 07:35:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2225106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6288FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6Q7Yx1D083883; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:35:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n6Q7Yx1D083883 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1248593701; bh=URmaO0DPzsYa8od/R9Ei7FDHfssrAp5a6F38lJBGQLs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A6C071A.3020800@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2026=20Jul=202009=2008:34:50=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090724)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20vogelke+unix@pobox.com|CC:=20freebsd-questions@fr eebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20limit=20to=20number=20of=20files=20seen =20by=20ls?|References:=20<20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb. af.mil>|In-Reply-To:=20<20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af. mil>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed =3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-s ignature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigF73112D57DCD0421F DB37985"; b=fX+iDdAnVuU5UE8W4qK+7YN2c9oSqMJDELK95OS2bCqyLArzEVrEVVt6mDzj40IVT S5qDjivJahtfWgp1s6Kd66gBc/Aw8q4NieTUF0hb+OjlIKl+ljkJfkiiGe/Y5qO9vm 6gBD3eYGENBPf5CyPPT+H9ohZZmTbTIGKyvjGP3o= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A6C071A.3020800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:34:50 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF73112D57DCD0421FDB37985" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:35:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF73112D57DCD0421FDB37985 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Karl Vogel wrote: > That arbitrary number has worked very nicely for me for 20 years und= er > Solaris, Linux, and several BSD variants. The main reason I stick > with 1000 is because directories are read linearly unless you're usi= ng > something like ReiserFS, and I get impatient waiting for more than t= hat > number of filenames to be sorted when using ls. Um... you mean filesystems like FreeBSD UFS2 with DIRHASH? The problem with linear time scanning of directory contents has been solved for a whi= le, and directories containing of the order of 10^5 files are nowadays usable= =2E You are entirely right that with ls(1) one of the biggest causes of delay= when returning a long list of files is actually sorting the output, but that would happen whatever filesystem you're using. If this is a problem= , most of the time you can just avoid the sorting altogether by using 'ls -= f' > If your application is trying to create hundreds of thousands or > millions of files in any one directory, or you're creating lots of > 200-character filenames from hell, then your design is a poor match = for > most varieties of Unix; small directories perform better than enormo= us > ones, and lots of commonly-used scripts and programs will fall over > when handed zillion-file argument lists. Yep. You are correct here, but I think your concept of 'small' could gro= w by an order of magnitude when using a reasonably up to date OS -- anythin= g produced in the last 3 -- 5 years should be able to cope with directories= containing tens of thousands of files without slowing down disastrously. Most of the limitation on the number of arguments a command will accept are due to the shell imposing a maximum, which in turn is due to limitati= ons on the size of the argv[] array allowed for execve(2). This is a general= limitation and applies to anything listed on a command line, not just fil= e names. It's fairly rare to run into this as a practical limitation durin= g most day to day use, and there are various tricks like using xargs(1) to extend the usable range. Even so, for really big applications that need to process long lists of data, you'ld have to code the whole thing to input the list via a file or pipe. Long filenames per-se aren't a bad thing -- a descriptive filename is quite beneficial to human users. But long names aren't necessary: after a= ll, just 12 alphanumeric characters will give you: 8114042066856017096132973186621192079364039587244176589984832159744 possible different filenames, which should be enough for anyone, and all the computer cares about is that the name is distinct. (that doesn't eve= n include punctuation characters)). So what if you can't remember whether Jx64rQWundkS contains "The Beatles: White Album" or "Annual Report of the= Departmental Sub-committee in Charge of Producing Really Boring Reports."= I've seen long filenames taken to extremes: people saving the text of a l= etter using a filename that consists of the names of the sender and recipients,= the date sent and a precis of the contents. I'm pretty sure that some of tho= se filenames were longer than the actual letters... > I'm sure the latest version of > fixes all these objections, but not everyone gets to run the latest > and greatest. Don't fight your filesystem, and it won't fight you. So, FreeBSD is a *cool OS*? But we knew that already... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF73112D57DCD0421FDB37985 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpsByMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwhvQCfZaULt8KcuK9FaUsmhfMSHRgc ODsAnj+7uu0y1qAe0SKcWHfTskJKM84v =vxDB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF73112D57DCD0421FDB37985-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 07:56:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E33106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16548FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2042573bwz.43 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:56:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G7QnCI0TjA5k5IqKGShk+fNo1XMVxinzB40icsYGsYQ=; b=cNRw50uVeubhl+1eP1t4rwMwTwmvlZfZcbuKctFCT4+plEM92jm1HdsmpRN5K9NN6F 24HMBssQ48lHCPVs1hh779cbh+e4hIU+sRL77OpNGu2oXyT7LjYoxlX7cRaJoF3c0dIm VivzsxeIQmN/gR3nWo04jJ1rXbHJ6d78ay2EU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=eRdhyc6G845cTh3+ArjvFZtH0RuKQ2I0/LCiVQUXKrZ5Amgv7/7UOYup4t0yNk2B9W aK1f9o2YN5FytAFPLXpox/Kkd9ovv1lg0iqrGGJJMWJN4WTc/G+NAov8jIw1wTjTR7ea 5kwmv9gX1S8Hdwu6YoyTQn11hoXYmpmxl/g48= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.137.194 with SMTP id m2mr577580hbm.119.1248595009737; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:56:49 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mkhitrov@gmail.com Subject: Re: UFS2 tuning for heterogeneous 4TB file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:56:51 -0000 >The file system in question will not have a common file size (which is >what, as I understand, bytes per inode should be tuned for). There >will be many small files (< 10 KB) and many large ones (> 500 MB). A >similar, in terms of content, 2TB ntfs file system on another server >has an average file size of about 26 MB with 59,246 files. Ordinarily, it may have a large variation in file sizes, but can you intervene, and segregate large and small files in separate filesystems, so that you can optimize the settings for each independently? >Ideally, I would prefer that small files do not waste more than 4 KB >of space, which is what you have with ntfs. At the same time, having >fsck running for days after an unclean shutdown is also not a good >option (I always disable background checking). From what I've gathered >so far, the two requirements are at the opposite ends in terms of file >system optimization. I gather you are trying to be conservative, but have you considered using gjournal(8)? At least for the filesystems with many small files? In that way, you could safely avoid the need for most if not all use of fsck(8), and, as an adjunct benefit, you would be able to operate on the small files more quickly: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-June/064043.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/gjournal-desktop/article.html gjournal has a lower overhead than ZFS, and has proven to be fairly reliable. Also, you can always unhook it and revert to plain UFS mounts easily. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 08:13:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C851065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4208FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05977E818; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:13:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:13:36 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <46921322@ipt.ru> <4a6c04f5.kCRwnNHuKXMD2Eoc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4a6c04f5.kCRwnNHuKXMD2Eoc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907260013.36679.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: bsam@ipt.ru, af.gourmet@videotron.ca, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: >1 linux_base port (Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:13:38 -0000 On Saturday 25 July 2009 23:25:41 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > PJ writes: > > > I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 > > > > That's wrong. Two linux_base ports should not be installed > > at a system ... > > Might it be advisable for each new linux_base port to declare > itself incompatible with all earlier ones, to prevent this > kind of error? (Cc: ports@) They are, -f8/Makefile: CONFLICTS= linux_base-gentoo* linux_base-fc4 linux_base-fc6 \ linux_base-f7 linux-glib2 Someone installed with DISABLE_CONFLICTS and has a bleeding foot. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 08:45:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C055810656D8 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48EA8FC2E for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE97B7E818 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:45:12 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:45:11 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <4A6C071A.3020800@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A6C071A.3020800@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907260045.12045.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:45:34 -0000 On Saturday 25 July 2009 23:34:50 Matthew Seaman wrote: > It's fairly rare to run into this as a practical > limitation during most day to day use, and there are various tricks like > using xargs(1) to extend the usable range. Even so, for really big > applications that need to process long lists of data, you'ld have to code > the whole thing to input the list via a file or pipe. ls itself is not glob(3) aware, but there are programs that are, like scp. So the fastest solution in those cases is to single quote the argument and let the program expand the glob. for loops are also a common work around: ls */* == for f in */*; do ls $f; done Point of it all being, that the cause of the OP's observed behavior is only indirectly related to the directory size. He will have the same problem if he divides the 4000 files over 4 directories and calls ls */*. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 09:13:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A491065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709858FC1B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so550119eyd.7 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ls/cwkTPPc2kLpjXizoVijapQMrVC5jQARjXkglm5hI=; b=oDJLNuLuqBkJyQ5hDNZx0tc2Mo3jW/rXT7QeIPA3OkCiO359KNUsuZ8Va6ShRRz3Jg kxArgqqESNPil/hIXfOera7aTKeu0RqLetwdK+nKEHcHoGlevDnEEpNYcOu9VknqPQwM TscU8+28Hy9yUk/ndwy+E3zdWpl9K2TOtlTZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AzTMnmkv1jUxI/ZO47PQR1mSPOQL9XeVmHFdlsZJKBO+gKvzCJzQyikkbPyFTJg0Q6 7X+cad1FdbWwxTDv6ixSzzY9aa3ctRiuJggawrThnvnkpy5IYfB4BkrAdpwMXsTUtdWZ AVHsnjOQJPxk/tAiXvZiZBawlnOKRnmX42XPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.70.204 with SMTP id p54mr1467023wed.87.1248599637117; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090626180448.GB37243@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> <4A45A012.70804@aboutsupport.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:13:37 +0100 Message-ID: To: Peter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: torrents.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:13:59 -0000 2009/6/27 Chris Rees : > 2009/6/27 Peter : >> >> >> Chris Cowart wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm currently trying to setup a bittorrent tracker to distribute files, >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> Try http://www.freenas.org/ --> it comes with web panel and has >> Bittorent module along other modules. >> >> Peter > > http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/opentracker/ > > This software is EASY, and very configurable. > > The world's largest bittorrent tracker uses it... > > Chris > > > Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'd like to point out that I've written a port for opentracker, in the works for committing at the moment. Anyone who'd like to help host the tarball with me is welcome :) Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 10:59:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D0D106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FE48FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so554427eyd.7 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:59:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JVIBjKWeg88wrpAK63jsvMM4FL2f3nU3gkg3ZBlm5Z0=; b=xZaFhyUqasEDvCky4ILhzn7iu7X4w94MSj6yAEpz0SgRPA6ZhsiZfuTsM9PayKFRY7 DLRBhQwKh7Qo1M95bHsVaURKIVKOnpaiWpM1Xdyhjot+WlkQNhfogfO5dAsVfYeX5Qdp TacYvwbcIMTo503kaxro7c8zCW/FQc9Z3KOcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NKXcygt+8XRBoF5DspW8LM3aujW/LL1+auzOBO8LLAR5JHB+R/kja732NNN1n373RV 8ZiG3cCuWL99lZRro6D3ueDvypLU2McQlfc5E0cqUzLwcY1gauHRGuhXkIvcOYORpR3+ nkN+WXFQspOOAE+nMpzgQ8p9hFZbLcCUTSMpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.200 with SMTP id a50mr432049wef.77.1248605947129; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:59:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907250916.22355.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A6A3C49.4090403@glemsk.net> <200907250916.22355.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:58:47 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restarting daemons after portupgrade/portmanager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:59:08 -0000 2009/7/25 Mel Flynn : > On Friday 24 July 2009 14:57:13 Axel wrote: > >> So far, so good. But what about the other daemons that still seem to run >> after upgrade (Apache, Courier IMAP etc)? Are the new version running >> fine after the upgrade, or should I set AFTERINSTALL to do a restart of >> these daemons, to make sure they run the upgraded version? > > I don't know about Courier, but Apache is generally not affected by on-disk > versions of libraries. The CGI programs however, are, since they're started up > and shutdown with each request (or in the case of FCGI in X requests) - the > Apache workers are spawned from the root process and use that process image. > > So there is no definite need to shut down Apache and disrupt service. If a > running webserver is important to you, I also would not do this automatically. > For example, jpeg could be upgraded before Apache and a module for Apache > needing it, yet this module is depending on Apache and therefore not > recompiled yet. As a result, this module tries to load a non-existing library > and Apache restart will fail. > -- > Mel If you want to restart Apache without killing existing sessions, just use amnesiac# apachectl graceful However, watch out for Mel's point about missing libraries.... But I would still do that; downtime after forcing a restart is better than downtime at some random point when it discovers the missing libraries.... Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Subject: Fw: Re: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:43:06 -0000 --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Zohreh wrote: From: Zohreh Subject: Re: question To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 2:43 PM Dear Sir/Madam=20 tahnk you fo your reply ,=A0 i have checked my squid setting , and ftp_pass= ive =3Don , i disabled firewall and brows ftp site ,i brows first page of ftp site but = ia can not brows all link on it and take me this error :the folder ftp://ft= p.hp.com is read only because the proxy server is not=A0 set up to allow fu= ll access . =A0 after that i enabeld firewall and check it again but i cannot brows ftp sit= e . my rule set that i set is as follow : =A0 IPF=3D"ipfw -q add" skip=3D"skipto 800" ipfw -q -f flush #bge0 is outbound port on internet #bge1 is inbound port on LAN network #loopback=20 $IPF 10 allow all from any to any via bge1=A0=A0=A0=20 $IPF 11 allow all from any to any via lo0 #$IPF 20 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8 #$IPF 30 deny all from 127.0.0.0/8 to any #$IPF 40 deny tcp from any to any frag=20 #$IPF 12 divert natd ip from any to any in via bge0 #statefull $IPF 50 check-state #$IPF 60 allow tcp from any to any established #$IPF 70 allow all from any to any out keep-state #$IPF 80 allow icmp from any to any=20 $IPF 90 allow all from any to any #open port ftp(20,21),mail(25),http(80),https(443),ssh(22),dns(53) $IPF 100 allow tcp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via bge0 setup keep-state=A0= =20 $IPF 101 allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out via bge0=A0 keep-state $IPF 110 allow tcp from any to any 80 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 120 allow tcp from any to any 443 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 130 allow tcp from any to any 25 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 140 allow tcp from any to any 110 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 150 allow icmp from any to any out via bge0=A0 keep-state $IPF 160 allow tcp from any to any 20 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 170 allow tcp from any to any 21 out via bge0 setup keep-state #$IPF 171 fwd 10.10.40.40 tcp from 192.168.32.0,21 to any 21=20 #$IPF 172 allow tcp from any to any 20 in via bge0 $IPF 180 allow tcp from any to any 22 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 190 allow tcp from any to any 43 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 200 allow tcp from any to any 53 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 210 allow udp from any to any 53 out via bge0 setup keep-state $IPF 220 deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any in via bge0=20 $IPF 221 deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any in via bge0 $IPF 222 deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any in via bge0=20 $IPF 223 deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any in via bge0 $IPF 224 deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any in via bge0 $IPF 225 deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any in via bge0 $IPF 226 deny all from 204.152.64.0/23 to any in via bge0 $IPF 227 deny all from 224.0.0.0/3 to any in via bge0 $IPF 240 deny icmp from any to any in via bge0 #$IPF 241 allow icmp from 10.10.40.40 to 10.10.40.43 in via bge0 $IPF 250 deny tcp from any to any 113 in via bge0 $IPF 260 deny tcp from any to any 137 in via bge0 $IPF 261 deny tcp from any to any 138 in via bge0 $IPF 262 deny tcp from any to any 139 in via bge0 $IPF 263 deny tcp from any to any 81 in via bge0=A0=20 $IPF 270 deny all from any to any frag in via bge0 $IPF 280 deny tcp from any to any established in via bge0 $IPF 290 allow tcp from any to me 80 in via bge0 setup limit src-addr 2=20 #$IPF 800 divert natd ip from any to any out via bge0 #$IPF 801 allow ip from any to any=20 #deny log everything $IPF 900 deny log all from any to any=A0=20 =A0 i would appriciated if you help me to solve=A0this problem . of course i ha= ve this problem with pop3 and smtp in order to send email through of=A0my p= roxy server .=20 =A0 thank you for your attention to this matter =A0 best regards zohreh =A0 --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: question To: "Zohreh" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 11:58 PM On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:57 -0700 (PDT), Zohreh wrot= e: > Dear Sir/Madam=20 > =A0 > i have a question about free bsd and squid that=A0was=A0installed on it. > i insatlled squid 2.6 stabled 20 on freebsd 7. and i enabled firewall > on freebsd .=A0 now i brows http sites on internet but i cannot brows > ftp site and i cannot pass pop3 through of my squid .=A0 can you hlep me > , how to config squid and freebsd to pass ftp and pop3 ?=A0 thank you > for your attention =A0 best regards zohreh =A0 You seem to have blocked FTP access by tweaking the firewall ruleset. Either show us the ruleset you are using, or try setting in the environment of the squid proxy the option "FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=3D1". =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 14:20:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A1F106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B174A8FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4639106yxe.3 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oj/eQipampxZNCTjdxmn+hp3tfSaDylZbJMNpACNr44=; b=VVrnJ1APRYLCy9Zg4xtGhCsPLO6qlActyhP/uZJ6NNYHl6HMfQ+6L0StK0UjKka57j dMcj0WlZ3qDtaJZ55y03X1CJCPiU9RrsxrVaTNaL0r2fakHRA4rLzxaZcv1wAt4HB6Rg ySNwT+HmhXAqQHiV0XP+RzhhY+SnRWwxm3Wsc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qWqU6x3H/pOz6wxt/eDkKsW1T0VIyhl9nUCAEqnI7xUNGPN+Mf3o74XSxc+cDtO1vF 8nX6Ro7/Ri9E2/KfEAH2Z4FWSTQKLWlm47PvRCbk5Gue/hNN40cLn4a8rtM3+l6TK4fk D5kwGcc2geu4s15eMcS2MkM55/atyP7nHLRF0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.94.2 with SMTP id r2mr5005792agb.19.1248618004114; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:20:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750907260719x761a1c94r27c572ab1ff6a582@mail.gmail.com> To: "b. f." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 tuning for heterogeneous 4TB file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:20:05 -0000 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM, b. f. wrote: >>The file system in question will not have a common file size (which is >>what, as I understand, bytes per inode should be tuned for). There >>will be many small files (< 10 KB) and many large ones (> 500 MB). A >>similar, in terms of content, 2TB ntfs file system on another server >>has an average file size of about 26 MB with 59,246 files. > > Ordinarily, it may have a large variation in file sizes, =C2=A0but can yo= u > intervene, and segregate large and small files in separate > filesystems, so that you can optimize the settings for each > independently? That's a good idea, but the problem is that this raid array will grow in the future as I add additional drives. As far as I know, a partition can be expanded using growfs, but it cannot be moved to a higher address (with any "standard" tools). So if I create two separate partitions for different file types, the first partition will have to remain a fixed size. That would be problematic, since I cannot easily predict how much space it would need initially and for all future purposes (enough to store all the files, yet not waste space that could otherwise be used for the second partition). >>Ideally, I would prefer that small files do not waste more than 4 KB >>of space, which is what you have with ntfs. At the same time, having >>fsck running for days after an unclean shutdown is also not a good >>option (I always disable background checking). From what I've gathered >>so far, the two requirements are at the opposite ends in terms of file >>system optimization. > > I gather you are trying to be conservative, but have you considered > using gjournal(8)? =C2=A0At least for the filesystems with many small > files? =C2=A0In that way, you could safely avoid the need for most if not > all use of fsck(8), and, as an adjunct benefit, you would be able to > operate on the small files more quickly: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-June/064043.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/gjournal-desktop/arti= cle.html > > gjournal has a lower overhead than ZFS, and has proven to be fairly > reliable. =C2=A0Also, you can always unhook it and revert to plain UFS > mounts easily. > > b. > Just fairly reliable? :) I've done a bit of reading on gjournal and the main thing that's preventing me from using it is the recency of implementation. I've had a number of FreeBSD servers go down in the past due to power outages and SoftUpdates with foreground fsck have never failed me. I have never had a corrupt ufs2 partition, which is not something I can say about a few linux servers with ext3. Have there been any serious studies into how gjournal and SU deal with power outages? By that I mean taking two identical machines, issuing write operations, yanking the power cords, and then watching both systems recover? I'm sure that gjournal will take less time to reboot, but if this experiment is repeated a few hundred times I wonder what the corruption statistics would be. Is there ever a case, for instance, when the journal itself becomes corrupt because the power was pulled in the middle of a metadata flush? Basically, I have no experience with gjournal, poor experience with other journaled file systems, and no real comparison between reliability characteristics of gjournal and SoftUpdates, which have served me very well in the past. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 14:45:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D96106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1EE8FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-72-132.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.72.132]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n6QEjUhm010150; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:45:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4A6C6C14.7040201@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:45:40 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Kellers References: <20090725070336.GA12539@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4A6B0E64.2000607@wallnet.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6B0E64.2000607@wallnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INN configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:45:41 -0000 Tim Kellers said the following on 2009-07-25 15:53: > Michel Talon wrote: >> Tim Kellers said: >> >>> -Has anyone set up a n INN server on freebsd, successfuly? >>> >> >> Yes, no problem. Have you read the Inn install doc in >> /usr/local/share/doc/inn/INSTALL >> This is a step by step guide to the *long* configuration. >> >> Note that if you want to suck in news from another news server you also >> need some other software, the best one being newsx (in the ports). >> >> You also need to edit the "active" file to add newsgroups. >> >> >> > Thanks, > > I think my problem may be my not having other software to grab the news > from an upstream news server. I'll take a look at newsx. The > configuration is long for sure, but I've been through it so many times > in the past few days that I think I'm getting better at it. :-) > > I'll report my success/failures as soon as I can get back on it. > > Tim Some information http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 15:13:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271F0106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF73A8FC24 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from tim-kellerss-macbook-pro.local (www.smsd.tv [96.57.143.18]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KNE00841AAU1M00@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:13:42 -0400 From: Tim Kellers In-reply-to: <4A6C6C14.7040201@bah.homeip.net> To: Bernt Hansson Message-id: <4A6C72A6.7080908@wallnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20090725070336.GA12539@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4A6B0E64.2000607@wallnet.com> <4A6C6C14.7040201@bah.homeip.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INN configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:13:44 -0000 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Tim Kellers said the following on 2009-07-25 15:53: >> Michel Talon wrote: >>> Tim Kellers said: >>> >>>> -Has anyone set up a n INN server on freebsd, successfuly? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, no problem. Have you read the Inn install doc in >>> /usr/local/share/doc/inn/INSTALL >>> This is a step by step guide to the *long* configuration. >>> >>> Note that if you want to suck in news from another news server you also >>> need some other software, the best one being newsx (in the ports). >>> >>> You also need to edit the "active" file to add newsgroups. >>> >>> >>> >> Thanks, >> >> I think my problem may be my not having other software to grab the >> news from an upstream news server. I'll take a look at newsx. The >> configuration is long for sure, but I've been through it so many >> times in the past few days that I think I'm getting better at it. :-) >> >> I'll report my success/failures as soon as I can get back on it. >> >> Tim > > Some information > http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/inn.html > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Thanks for that information. I've added news.software.nntp to my newsgroup and active files. I don't know if I spent so much time reading the doc's that I couldn't see the forest for the newsfeeds, but until Michel Talon wrote: > > Note that if you want to suck in news from another news server you also > need some other software, the best one being newsx (in the ports). I was chasing my tail trying to get the server to pul in articles. I think that should stand out in the docs, somewhere, but I never did see it, or if I did see it, I didn't understand what it was saying. Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 15:15:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE6D1065674 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@wwdevries.net) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2C28FC2C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@wwdevries.net) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so383058fxm.43 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:15:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mail@wwdevries.net Received: by 10.239.137.201 with SMTP id m9mr593744hbm.86.1248619371785; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:42:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 471ebbd3b08bbba5 Message-ID: <232106c00907260742h55902e40w5ea5539e98dfd696@mail.gmail.com> From: Wouter de Vries To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Quota support in GENERIC or as loadable module? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:15:46 -0000 Hello, Right now quota support is not available by default in the GENERIC kernel. As far as I know there is no way to compile quota support as a loadable module, am I correct? If so, what are the reasons for not including this feature in the GENERIC kernel and/or providing it as a loadable module? I would very much like to use the freebsd-update tool on my servers, but I can't because I am forced to use a custom kernel to be able to use quotas. I can imagine quotas is not being included in the GENERIC kernel because it's only useful for servers and not for desktop users. However, the freebsd-update tool seems to me especially useful for servers and now can't be used on those systems because of the custom kernel (assuming many, if not most, servers enforce quotas). Therefore I don't understand why there isn't the option to include quota support by a loadable module. Does anybody have an explanation and/or a solution for this problem? Thanks for your help in advance! Kind regards, Wouter de Vries From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 16:44:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B91B106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B78FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from tim-kellerss-macbook-pro.local (www.smsd.tv [96.57.143.18]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KNE0040MEHRQD20@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:44:15 -0400 From: Tim Kellers In-reply-to: <20090726065119.GA90366@lpthe.jussieu.fr> To: Michel Talon , freebsd general questions Message-id: <4A6C87DF.7080104@wallnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <20090725070336.GA12539@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4A6B0E64.2000607@wallnet.com> <4A6BAD8B.5020007@wallnet.com> <20090726065119.GA90366@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: INN configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:44:17 -0000 Michel Talon wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 09:12:43PM -0400, Tim Kellers wrote: > >> Looks like newsx was the solution I was looking for. So far, it is >> pulling the articles from my active groups from my upstream provider. I >> assume from the docs I have to run rnews -U after this immense pull has >> completed. >> > > I don't run rnews at all, as far as i remember. A thing you need to do > is to run (news.daily is a script in ~news/bin). > news.daily expireover lowmark > each day (with crontab) to expire old news. After that inn runs > perfectly regularly for years, and you don't fear problems like with > leafnode. > > > > > > I was going to crom something like: newsx -d --maxnew 200 acme news.acme.net && rnews -U -v but I'll definitely have a look at the news.daily script, too. Thanks Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 18:24:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D15106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33648FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 98647 invoked by uid 89); 26 Jul 2009 18:24:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 26 Jul 2009 18:24:51 -0000 In-Reply-To: <200907260045.12045.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <4A6C071A.3020800@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200907260045.12045.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8A69BBD9-5F3C-44B8-96C0-586C1B5A386F@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:24:31 -0400 To: Mel Flynn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:24:35 -0000 On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:45 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Saturday 25 July 2009 23:34:50 Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> It's fairly rare to run into this as a practical >> limitation during most day to day use, and there are various >> tricks like >> using xargs(1) to extend the usable range. Even so, for really big >> applications that need to process long lists of data, you'ld have >> to code >> the whole thing to input the list via a file or pipe. > > ls itself is not glob(3) aware, but there are programs that are, > like scp. So > the fastest solution in those cases is to single quote the argument > and let > the program expand the glob. for loops are also a common work around: > ls */* == for f in */*; do ls $f; done > > Point of it all being, that the cause of the OP's observed behavior > is only > indirectly related to the directory size. He will have the same > problem if he > divides the 4000 files over 4 directories and calls ls */* H'mmm... I haven't come back on this question, because I want my next question to be an intelligent one, but I'm having a hard time understanding what is going on. I'm reading up on this, and as soon as I know enough to either understand the issue, or ask an intelligent question, I will do so... Thanks for all the comments... -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 18:48:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E6A106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3A38FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNE004DRK8WMDB0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A6CA506.3030407@videotron.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:48:38 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Adam Vande More References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BA9E2.20609@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251833o52e24c2cuda02bf172530bb26@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0907251903k12ba0a7ahdd8fa1014e5d067d@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <6201873e0907251903k12ba0a7ahdd8fa1014e5d067d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:48:34 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Adam Vande More > > wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:57 PM, PJ > wrote: > > Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PJ > > >> wrote: > > > > � � Adam Vande More wrote: > > � � > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, PJ > > > � � > > > � � > > > � � >>> wrote: > > � � > > > � � > � � Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY installed Adobe Flash for > Firefox on > > � � FBSD 7.2 > > � � > � � running on amd64? > > � � > � � I have managed to install about everything I need > on an Acer > > � � > � � TravelMate > > � � > � � 4400 except Flash. > > � � > � � I have found that someone did install it in > version 7.1 but > > � � the same > > � � > � � procedures do not work on 7.2. linux_base-f8 > > � � ("linux_base-f8-8_11 > > � � > � � compat.linuxosrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported.") > > � � > � � Installed is linux_base-fc-4_14 is currently > installed. > > � � > � � linux_base-f10-10 is asking to use version 2.6.16 > > � � > � � Surely some version of Flash should be functional > on FBSD 7.2 > > � � > � � TIA > > � � > > > � � > � � -- > > � � > � � Herv� Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan�te, sortez du > capitalisme." > > � � > � � > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > � � > � � Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > > > � � > >> > > � � > > > � � > > > � � > Sure it's no different than i386. �You need to set > linux kernel > > � � > version to 2.6.16 in /etc/sysctl.conf then remove f4 > and install > > � � f8 or > > � � > f10. > > � � > > > � � > -- > > � � > Adam Vande More > > � � Thanks for the prompt answer Adam, > > > > � � I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 & sctl.conf > set to > > � � 2.6.16. I > > � � tried installing flash but here's what I get. > > > > � � "The current linux-f8-flashplugin10 spews out: > > � � ===> linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 bsd.linux-apps.mk > > > � � test failed: The > > � � component nss is not defined for LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX= (the > corresponding > > � � variable nss_FILE is not defined). > > � � *** Error code 1" > > > > � � linux_base-fc-4-14 was installed as a dependency by some > other > > � � program. > > � � What happens if I remofe it? > > > > > > � � -- > > � � Herv� Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan�te, sortez du > capitalisme." > > � � > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > � � Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > > > � � � http://www.ptahhotep.com > > � � � http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php > > > > > > In my experience, upgrading linux base hasn't broken > anything as long > > as proper steps are taken. �Boris was correct in referencing > > /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on upgrading it. �There are > > important steps there. �Also the original post had an error that > > reflected the sysctl not being set correctly. �Generally, > sysctl.conf > > is only run at boot. �If you're just getting starting in > BSD, it is > > probably easier to just remember to reboot after changing > files like > > /etc/sysctl.conf and /boot/loader.conf. �It's more > complicated than > > that and this introduces some unnecessary steps but it's a > lot easier > > to remember for someone new to this enviroment. > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > I'm afraid that I am a little lost here. > I have had a few problems configuring ports on previous > installations, > but I hagve always managed to ge them done. Usually, with a > little help > to find my own silly little mistakes like typos and just not > paying > attention. > But up to now, I have never been able to install Flash on any > previous > distributions. > Anyway, I now have flash installed... it does not work. > I have also acroread9 installed... it does not want to work... > it loads > up, the panel comes up and last about 1-2 seconds and dies. > That's nice. I went to the trouble to install it and it > doesn't work. > Any suggestions what to do, look for, or whatever befor I > trash all this > stuff and go back to MicroSlop. > Thanks again...I've had enough for today... gotta get some > sleep. It's > been a miserable week installing and reinstalling 7.2 on > amd64... and I > was just beginning to see the light at the end of the > tunnel... :'( > > Best instructions are found here: > > http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 > > I've not had any issue with any freebsd 7.x version including > stable, but I didn't run amd64 long.� I doubt that is the issue > though. > -- > Adam Vande More > > > Actually there is a pretty good thread going in stable about this: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-July/051292.html > > -- > Adam Vande More Thanks again for alll your input. I had found the link above and with Boris's hints was able to finally get it all going. There was a little issue with sound, but I found a solution for that. So now I have everything running as it should. Whew, finally. The only thing I have not done is make a custom kernel and install a wireless card. I don't think the former is necessary as it runs fine and only gives a few warning messages that don't seem to hinder the operation. The wireless seems to be well documented. As things stand now, I think I shall get rid of, or at least mothball ,MicroSlop and use it from wine should I ever really need it. :-) Now, I'm happy and can get back to some more serious work setting up some web sites. ;-) -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 19:09:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B064F106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9208FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793747E818 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:09:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:09:44 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <200907260045.12045.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <8A69BBD9-5F3C-44B8-96C0-586C1B5A386F@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <8A69BBD9-5F3C-44B8-96C0-586C1B5A386F@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907261109.44586.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:09:47 -0000 On Sunday 26 July 2009 10:24:31 John Almberg wrote: > On Jul 26, 2009, at 4:45 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Saturday 25 July 2009 23:34:50 Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> It's fairly rare to run into this as a practical > >> limitation during most day to day use, and there are various > >> tricks like > >> using xargs(1) to extend the usable range. Even so, for really big > >> applications that need to process long lists of data, you'ld have > >> to code > >> the whole thing to input the list via a file or pipe. > > > > ls itself is not glob(3) aware, but there are programs that are, > > like scp. So > > the fastest solution in those cases is to single quote the argument > > and let > > the program expand the glob. for loops are also a common work around: > > ls */* == for f in */*; do ls $f; done > > > > Point of it all being, that the cause of the OP's observed behavior > > is only > > indirectly related to the directory size. He will have the same > > problem if he > > divides the 4000 files over 4 directories and calls ls */* > > H'mmm... I haven't come back on this question, because I want my next > question to be an intelligent one, but I'm having a hard time > understanding what is going on. I'm reading up on this, and as soon > as I know enough to either understand the issue, or ask an > intelligent question, I will do so... When a program is executed with arguments, there is a system imposed limit on the size of this argument list. On FreeBSD this limit can be seen with sysctl kern.argmax, which is the length in bytes. When you do "ls *", what really happens is that the shell expands the asterisk to all entries in the current directory, except entries starting with a dot ("hidden" files and directories). As a result, ls is really called as: ls file1 file2 .... fileN If the string length of file1 to fileN is bigger then kern.argmax, then you will get argument list too long error. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 21:42:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81652106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237568FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4892501yxe.3 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gKktlpPPbCjoWzi+uN683/avCrPVKbTI8xtNhQYWsBk=; b=S1vwdhueWaWZ405qkR3HqZCgwWFDBA4eCkWAxlL8jSJGcmf0tUkq5RFLsPS9rfeZcw GE3y6RLPzdTdovDZrY+TojWmNwwj1JzHxuPbaqsEVjxqM5xB4z5jOmOSiFt8P0UdwZj5 ucLZao5YUe7Y84xUmfu+KZJT9xrmMvprnEoyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Gt4TAm9BqhALYL+nErKBukqWlRf5ajcHJjFErrGaPWHYFdaHTL2Fs1RCb3uAyudEFY YaPUl0WdtsyElMfcSU+vLZOSe8dmKHLzYZUP0O51MXszJbNktVnwZyyhwUkO94TTMbKr AiXmmw7VriuIv3MKuZWPfln+w5TDS06AEyOn8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.54.6 with SMTP id c6mr9728707yba.24.1248644532046; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:42:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A6CA506.3030407@videotron.ca> References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251722v63ae8bc8i342e0853d468dbcf@mail.gmail.com> <4A6BA9E2.20609@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251833o52e24c2cuda02bf172530bb26@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0907251903k12ba0a7ahdd8fa1014e5d067d@mail.gmail.com> <4A6CA506.3030407@videotron.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:42:11 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907261442m5540759en3e23ed689f7b4abd@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:13 -0000 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:48 PM, PJ wrote: > Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Adam Vande More > > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:57 PM, PJ > > wrote: > > > > Adam Vande More wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:03 PM, PJ > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Adam Vande More wrote: > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, PJ > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > >>> wrote: > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Has anyone SUCCESSF= ULLY installed Adobe Flash for > > Firefox on > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD FBSD 7.2 > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD running on amd64? > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I have managed to i= nstall about everything I need > > on an Acer > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD TravelMate > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 4400 except Flash. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I have found that s= omeone did install it in > > version 7.1 but > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD the same > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD procedures do not w= ork on 7.2. linux_base-f8 > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ("linux_base-f8-8_11 > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD compat.linuxosrelea= se: 2.4.2 is not supported.") > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Installed is linux_= base-fc-4_14 is currently > > installed. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD linux_base-f10-10 i= s asking to use version 2.6.16 > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Surely some version= of Flash should be functional > > on FBSD 7.2 > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD TIA > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Herv=EF=BF=BD Kempf= : "Pour sauver la plan=EF=BF=BDte, sortez du > > capitalisme." > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Phil Jourdan --- pj= @ptahhotep.com > > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > >> > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > Sure it's no different than i386. =EF= =BF=BDYou need to set > > linux kernel > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > version to 2.6.16 in /etc/sysctl.conf t= hen remove f4 > > and install > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD f8 or > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > f10. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > -- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > Adam Vande More > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Thanks for the prompt answer Adam, > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD I already had f8 installed as well as fc-= 4 & sctl.conf > > set to > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2.6.16. I > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD tried installing flash but here's what I = get. > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "The current linux-f8-flashplugin10 spews= out: > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =3D=3D=3D> linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 bsd.= linux-apps.mk > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD test failed: T= he > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD component nss is not defined for LINUX_DI= ST_SUFFIX=3D (the > > corresponding > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD variable nss_FILE is not defined). > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD *** Error code 1" > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD linux_base-fc-4-14 was installed as a dep= endency by some > > other > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD program. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD What happens if I remofe it? > > > > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Herv=EF=BF=BD Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan= =EF=BF=BDte, sortez du > > capitalisme." > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com > > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD http://www.ptahhotep.com > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD http://www.chiccantine.com/andy= pantry.php > > > > > > > > > In my experience, upgrading linux base hasn't broken > > anything as long > > > as proper steps are taken. =EF=BF=BDBoris was correct in refe= rencing > > > /usr/ports/UPDATING for instructions on upgrading it. =EF=BF= =BDThere > are > > > important steps there. =EF=BF=BDAlso the original post had an= error > that > > > reflected the sysctl not being set correctly. =EF=BF=BDGenera= lly, > > sysctl.conf > > > is only run at boot. =EF=BF=BDIf you're just getting starting= in > > BSD, it is > > > probably easier to just remember to reboot after changing > > files like > > > /etc/sysctl.conf and /boot/loader.conf. =EF=BF=BDIt's more > > complicated than > > > that and this introduces some unnecessary steps but it's a > > lot easier > > > to remember for someone new to this enviroment. > > > > > > -- > > > Adam Vande More > > I'm afraid that I am a little lost here. > > I have had a few problems configuring ports on previous > > installations, > > but I hagve always managed to ge them done. Usually, with a > > little help > > to find my own silly little mistakes like typos and just not > > paying > > attention. > > But up to now, I have never been able to install Flash on any > > previous > > distributions. > > Anyway, I now have flash installed... it does not work. > > I have also acroread9 installed... it does not want to work... > > it loads > > up, the panel comes up and last about 1-2 seconds and dies. > > That's nice. I went to the trouble to install it and it > > doesn't work. > > Any suggestions what to do, look for, or whatever befor I > > trash all this > > stuff and go back to MicroSlop. > > Thanks again...I've had enough for today... gotta get some > > sleep. It's > > been a miserable week installing and reinstalling 7.2 on > > amd64... and I > > was just beginning to see the light at the end of the > > tunnel... :'( > > > > Best instructions are found here: > > > > http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 > > > > I've not had any issue with any freebsd 7.x version including > > stable, but I didn't run amd64 long.=EF=BF=BD I doubt that is the i= ssue > > though. > > -- > > Adam Vande More > > > > > > Actually there is a pretty good thread going in stable about this: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-July/051292.html > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > Thanks again for alll your input. > I had found the link above and with Boris's hints was able to finally > get it all going. There was a little issue with sound, but I found a > solution for that. > So now I have everything running as it should. Whew, finally. > The only thing I have not done is make a custom kernel and install a > wireless card. I don't think the former is necessary as it runs fine and > only gives a few warning messages that don't seem to hinder the operation= . > The wireless seems to be well documented. > As things stand now, I think I shall get rid of, or at least mothball > ,MicroSlop and use it from wine should I ever really need it. :-) > Now, I'm happy and can get back to some more serious work setting up > some web sites. ;-) > > Good to hear your success. It will get much easier with time as you lear= n more. I don't run custom kernels often, and up until recently didn't use wireless. As you said it's well documented, and the wireless info in the handbook worked very well for me. --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 21:52:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE13106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F008FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNE00KR6SQXQO90@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A6CD00F.3000405@videotron.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:52:15 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Boris Samorodov References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <46921322@ipt.ru> In-reply-to: <46921322@ipt.ru> Cc: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:52:11 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > PJ writes: > > >> I already had f8 installed as well as fc-4 >> > > That's wrong. Two linux_base ports should not be installed > at a system. Please, read /usr/ports/UPDATING on instructions > whow to recover (i.e. do a clean install). I'd recommend > deletting /compat/linux/* after you remove all linux > ports/packages. > Hi again, guys, Now that my 7.2 on Acer Travelmate 4400 amd64 is working fine, what do I have to do to make it work on 7.1? I've followed all the instructions pretty well but neither flash9 or 10 want to work on my i386 Fbsd 7.1 box want to work. I uninstalled the fc4 and installed the f8, then followed all the instructions... I had a small glitch before installing the f8 emulator... I had done a type in the fstab and mount /usr/compat/linux/proc could not be mounted... well, I continued anyway and reinstalled all corrected the fstab entry and reinstalled again... still no go. Should I uninstall the f8 and clean out the compat/linux/proc files and the reinstall f8? Or are the other solutions? I have moonlight and moonshine installed... could there be a conflict there? I have also made the necessary ln to the .so file.. forgot which... Thanks again... Phil -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 23:35:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7A41065674 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f219.google.com (mail-fx0-f219.google.com [209.85.220.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29878FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so44021fxm.43 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:35:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tB/vmNNF6Uwj4f5H2f1yJZg5Z5sB9mit6ojDnF5sN3I=; b=HQ59TS3RfBkyl+mgkwZcEFuEwpWLVywKKxfVTB8WVpn7ChmU4IwMqqHEjZda0Mb4HL Cjt2FUpOmKhR6PdJR7+1ipF5YcfcOxhOn+svGIGVx6HWf/7fcGm76z1FJKfLTDJj0fhV 7DEGJr/1dNud5VdHa4YOp0YRPQBGQ2OM/DuAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=sP3FJerCfdIyntUjIIQYXFDTFob4d9NsG7pQZQ4JivEzfGKFYGHtuQa4vkXJmExl4g KePMOyXL8e06Gn1z7pgcclmOmubpyEqBTEY4lNPwB1Shvxs0lMm2yPJSXvblRwKfA+aP vM/3xRtjJ5TazvLhNYbmT551kt4Ci1JH8Eey0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.103.203 with SMTP id l11mr2458996bko.71.1248651322901; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:35:22 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 94c7b582450cbea1 Message-ID: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: svn+ssh server only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:35:24 -0000 Hi I'm trying to make a ssh+svn server only (apache is installed, but that is for view.vc) I want the only method of connecting to be via ssh. My problem is I don't really know which of the following I would need. NEON SERF SASL BDB ASVN SVNSERVE_WRAPPER (As I understand this is needed when a group of people should acces it - able to change umask) The rest I have no clue.. --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=F8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 23:40:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC1B106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com (mail-ew0-f217.google.com [209.85.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F988FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so1008273ewy.43 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:40:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=F0i3/rkJM1T9+cigXFrDK8mH+8Opvl55QBppHOX1njY=; b=Epnozhtz2y8ppr91Z76LmMwZ6uurDB0+11nXlmcabIA/JgGzc+LkAb2zthwr5BNq4h qjfTZzuFcgRAmmXCcRBXfkfgY7TT28+emC+UsGBo7xwwx29nf8cauRdrkOPTsJ31Nf9R 6XwRoFkkJZLSJJnEG307OVh7e0fj6lAFLEcnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EsXEsl9/iF+SxmM9aJcCv5q1OfWoU/irIyHqmZdgsJl1E0Wn8CYxtCFiFEwfbjeHjR Ztg0nlF4l8ioG0Bv3w+PVy13Sbji4fVCX2pEHGJhQMnFxleRBiYF2O0Zdi7BNIkHpxOG ffp/tDPOT0OvuB8tNR+gEUV6gPDFSbZMIz57I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.81.3 with SMTP id e3mr7449520ebb.12.1248651625272; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:40:25 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660907261640o478e38f2p82d1e66942d2fcb0@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Syslog date format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:40:26 -0000 Is it possible (without patching source) to change the date format that syslog spits out into the log files? If so, how? The manual page makes no mention of it. Thanks. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 26 23:41:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5316A1065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE598FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2259010bwz.43 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EvJxRWw+LpoowW2CDll4hP5jx6u4dCGWPMq+Zz/dkrM=; b=JcVBuS7kjU30hH4vWzCCbQ50zuWU3lz3bD18HI5tQFRngvhg8KsuX0F/ruBqIDw+W8 hmmypXdZhzIjyiP5WWho7UHJZScyFwejpTnL/AsNW+8t+oMyBdx2jr4U0RwoFO3xQBmA cFsZbQcPgW3roBh6t/5Gc6CeJ6mToGZ2mFmD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EjndHNwVagI6D6OM8UsgCjIDEc5X+yLWFuo5D/GiUVSGyCpw3w1klf8mpi+M8CXNwm 6uVj9UbSV1fce0J2SqiVpyn/Vp6G8Gdb9KGl6X4DsIZLq5CeDOD8PGT8RxEa0vIbzugb +ApyF+OVBUKDLqwJ3Fkic++0ci22ijmeu5aZ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.125.144 with SMTP id y16mr2285006far.93.1248651688733; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:41:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:41:28 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907261641s24e36911k32ed1a702856ea5c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: svn+ssh server only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:41:30 -0000 On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Kalle M=F8ller wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to make a ssh+svn server only (apache is installed, but that i= s > for view.vc) > > I want the only method of connecting to be via ssh. My problem is I don't > really know which of the following I would need. > > NEON > SERF > SASL > BDB > ASVN > SVNSERVE_WRAPPER (As I understand this is needed when a group of people > should acces it - able to change umask) > > The rest I have no clue.. > Hi, Kalle Regardless if you are running a web-based (apache) SVN repository or an svn / svn+ssh, you need only (but all) of the defaults subversion requires. Web based SVN services are provided by the DAV_SVN module (which is installed when building apache). The short version of the answer - the defaults should suit your needs. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 00:01:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE120106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C655F8FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 17720 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2009 16:49:26 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 17716, pid: 17717, t: 2.2413s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp2.surewest.net. X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=10.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jDt-9pEAAAAA:8 a=AG7pxWWZDSxMRaYg0tAA:9 a=ugC2z63ssLQ2cm5fnNsA:7 a=aT59iDXBQGGuBMU4Fnd3nq0tDkAA:4 Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp2 with SMTP; 26 Jul 2009 16:49:24 -0700 Received: from [192.168.2.3] (unknown [192.168.2.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 37EBC164DF9; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1248652880; bh=+STfSpc5RM53F4XaC8rFQXM0oTQgIYZ9UKTevTDjwlA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=b4bKzS8tq74IOB6Ui5OUlnvmzdATPEhbnKNA2rQ+vQc2U+mIOW2nXedJLIF+T2Sgr j5eXN1XZBCdM9fa4d2aYIQiFrf5/h2/OOWTzo7xY4A8nmujUOjjEcvDPn3nYOM5A9J qePg/HacxPcMNA6x/z+qJJAsJ+n5gqHqANp2P6uc= Message-ID: <4A6CEE4F.3010400@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:01:19 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090717) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9=22?= References: <442069.450.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <442069.450.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenVPN Client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:01:24 -0000 Leonardo M. Ram wrote: > Well, I opted for deinstalling openvpn and install openvpn-devel (2.1). Now it reads my client.ovpn file, and it seems to be going a little step further, now it seems to be a problem with route add. > It's not really a problem with 'route add'. The problem is that a route for 192.168.0.0 already exists. > I have to mention that the client machine is connected to a router using DHCP in the network 192.168.0.xxx. Can this be the problem? > Yes. > This is the new log: > > Sat Jul 25 16:20:10 2009 OpenVPN 2.1_rc18 i386-portbld-freebsd7.2 [SSL] [LZO2] [PKCS11] built on Jul 25 2009 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 NOTE: OpenVPN 2.1 requires '--script-security 2' or higher to call user-defined scripts or executables > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Control Channel Authentication: tls-auth using INLINE static key file > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Outgoing Control Channel Authentication: Using 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Incoming Control Channel Authentication: Using 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 LZO compression initialized > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:168 EF:68 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ] > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:1450 EF:44 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ] > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Local Options hash (VER=V4): 'ee93268d' > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'bd577cd1' > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Attempting to establish TCP connection with 200.80.219.194:443 [nonblock] > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 TCP connection established with 200.80.219.194:443 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 Socket Buffers: R=[66608->65536] S=[33304->65536] > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 TCPv4_CLIENT link local: [undef] > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 TCPv4_CLIENT link remote: 200.80.219.194:443 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 TLS: Initial packet from 200.80.219.194:443, sid=f4722bb3 aafe8f23 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 WARNING: this configuration may cache passwords in memory -- use the auth-nocache option to prevent this > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 VERIFY OK: depth=1, /CN=OpenVPN_CA > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 VERIFY OK: nsCertType=SERVER > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 VERIFY OK: depth=0, /CN=OpenVPN_Server > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Encrypt: Cipher 'BF-CBC' initialized with 128 bit key > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Encrypt: Using 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Decrypt: Cipher 'BF-CBC' initialized with 128 bit key > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Decrypt: Using 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Control Channel: TLSv1, cipher TLSv1/SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, 1024 bit RSA > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 [OpenVPN_Server] Peer Connection Initiated with 200.80.219.194:443 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 SENT CONTROL [OpenVPN_Server]: 'PUSH_REQUEST' (status=1) > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 PUSH: Received control message: 'PUSH_REPLY,route-delay 5 30,dhcp-pre-release,dhcp-renew,dhcp-release,redirect-private local,redirect-private bypass-dhcp,redirect-private bypass-dns,route-metric 101,route 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0,route-gateway 172.16.0.1,topology subnet,ping 8,ping-restart 90,socket-flags TCP_NODELAY,ifconfig 172.16.0.2 255.255.0.0' > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:2: dhcp-pre-release (2.1_rc18) > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:3: dhcp-renew (2.1_rc18) > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:4: dhcp-release (2.1_rc18) > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: timers and/or timeouts modified > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: --socket-flags option modified > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 NOTE: setsockopt TCP_NODELAY=1 failed (No kernel support) > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: --ifconfig/up options modified > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: route options modified > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: route-related options modified > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 ROUTE default_gateway=192.168.0.1 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 TUN/TAP device /dev/tun0 opened > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 /sbin/ifconfig tun0 172.16.0.2 172.16.0.2 netmask 255.255.0.0 mtu 1500 up > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 /sbin/route add -net 172.16.0.0 172.16.0.2 255.255.0.0 > add net 172.16.0.0: gateway 172.16.0.2 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:21 2009 WARNING: potential route subnet conflict between local LAN [192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0] and remote VPN [192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0] > You can't use the same address space for multiple networks. In other words, you can't use 192.168.0.0/24 for both the VPN and your internal network unless you are bridging the two (i.e., making it one network). So the simple answer is to change the client machine's network to something other than 192.168.0.0/24 if you can. Otherwise you're either going to have to work out bridging or subnetting both sides which will get complicated in a hurry. Cheers, Drew > Sat Jul 25 16:20:21 2009 /sbin/route add -net 192.168.0.0 172.16.0.1 255.255.255.0 > route: writing to routing socket: File exists > add net 192.168.0.0: gateway 172.16.0.1: route already in table > Sat Jul 25 16:20:21 2009 ERROR: FreeBSD route add command failed: external program exited with error status: 1 > Sat Jul 25 16:20:21 2009 Initialization Sequence Completed > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 event_wait : Interrupted system call (code=4) > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 TCP/UDP: Closing socket > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 Closing TUN/TAP interface > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 SIGINT[hard,] received, process exiting > -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 01:47:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B946106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35E158FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 60483 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2009 01:47:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248659223; bh=rCgtNYKAeFUGmTvDeXWeXLJHpdzjr4Satpk2p4QECSQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JboYMY+SUthqaCWOtDTpxZkP03TNNLjzZHO9pxcu3Gbo53JJ3GA35ZS+nu/jbUZ5ycGzQ6vqjYyV52NE3N1MbI3IGQ0x8h1ctmiPnGUVAuD5c8i20/Z/PhkSlUdAxAlT6RuBnLhXZJOTeQY6Uc25b+QoCR8qOxHZY4GlH4FKtvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eA38giRSaB18Ro2CCU95J9d4HghWOpqLrV66xXTbiCd9K7i75gVxGnJBKCDmHY7Rhd5ersked4VpX95PqHrWOQu3Z9DMCf1b7zmHwJGL7tYbraSX++hG5sb3A10RuwyMrZqZ6ryvjVeTC/MpUTKf1wukkiH7713h8lcISXorL94=; Message-ID: <585916.59435.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gkNnae8VM1n3nWEtvHvWagMJqNyt1EskWLa42DwOb6w3LJHdi4Of3G6O0YFMI0BpRfHpKFtfMyb2r7BfuViJh4KAek3ODG2dZSnSpj1Mm758hcPLV5LFtVtGhmsRA7QHcP0nUXarUzkH0GC7Nvh6WDVeSAp9Rr8owrFEBKQ2wyHxyAB1huQSzzJeGUvGOejmkVqxfCbhXVvbEYPSGcbG8zLUXURB4Lbga42W1VxHJ2Q1mBX0J2qJCV2Xqy5Q3Arj_wIlzs087knz_xBxVLqyEBQQ5JgFDDMYSleBwpSt5Ag5tYxMFDS8Uzf0E3eHZoS65tzbmEjfZ7T4.2hnvpEgVeM7mSQ15_BlTVYdPrUtvxntywYUefF1_g-- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:47:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:47:03 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4A6CEE4F.3010400@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: OpenVPN Client X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:47:04 -0000 Thanks Drew!, I'll change my home network to test this.=0A=0ALeonardo.=0A= =0A--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Drew Tomlinson wrote:=0A= =0A> From: Drew Tomlinson =0A> Subject: Re: OpenVP= N Client=0A> To: ""Leonardo M. Ram=E9"" =0A> Cc: free= bsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 9:01 PM=0A> Leon= ardo M. Ram=E9 wrote:=0A> > Well, I opted for deinstalling openvpn and inst= all=0A> openvpn-devel (2.1). Now it reads my client.ovpn file, and=0A> it s= eems to be going a little step further, now it seems to=0A> be a problem wi= th route add.=0A> >=A0=A0=A0=0A> It's not really a problem with 'route add'= .=A0 The=0A> problem is that a route=0A> for 192.168.0.0 already exists.=0A= > > I have to mention that the client machine is connected=0A> to a router = using DHCP in the network 192.168.0.xxx. Can=0A> this be the problem?=0A> >= =A0=A0=A0=0A> Yes.=0A> =0A> > This is the new log:=0A> >=0A> > Sat Jul 25 1= 6:20:10 2009 OpenVPN 2.1_rc18=0A> i386-portbld-freebsd7.2 [SSL] [LZO2] [PKC= S11] built on Jul=0A> 25 2009=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 NOTE: OpenVPN = 2.1 requires=0A> '--script-security 2' or higher to call user-defined scrip= ts=0A> or executables=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Control Channel=0A> Au= thentication: tls-auth using INLINE static key file=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:= 13 2009 Outgoing Control Channel=0A> Authentication: Using 160 bit message = hash 'SHA1' for HMAC=0A> authentication=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Inco= ming Control Channel=0A> Authentication: Using 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' = for HMAC=0A> authentication=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 LZO compression = initialized=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Control Channel MTU parms [=0A> = L:1544 D:168 EF:68 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Data Cha= nnel MTU parms [=0A> L:1544 D:1450 EF:44 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]=0A> > Sa= t Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Local Options hash (VER=3DV4):=0A> 'ee93268d'=0A> > = Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Expected Remote Options hash=0A> (VER=3DV4): 'bd57= 7cd1'=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:13 2009 Attempting to establish TCP=0A> connec= tion with 200.80.219.194:443 [nonblock]=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 TCP = connection established=0A> with 200.80.219.194:443=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:1= 4 2009 Socket Buffers:=0A> R=3D[66608->65536] S=3D[33304->65536]=0A> > Sat = Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 TCPv4_CLIENT link local:=0A> [undef]=0A> > Sat Jul 25 = 16:20:14 2009 TCPv4_CLIENT link remote:=0A> 200.80.219.194:443=0A> > Sat Ju= l 25 16:20:14 2009 TLS: Initial packet from=0A> 200.80.219.194:443, sid=3Df= 4722bb3 aafe8f23=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:14 2009 WARNING: this configuration= =0A> may cache passwords in memory -- use the auth-nocache option=0A> to pr= event this=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 VERIFY OK: depth=3D1,=0A> /CN=3DO= penVPN_CA=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 VERIFY OK: nsCertType=3DSERVER=0A>= > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 VERIFY OK: depth=3D0,=0A> /CN=3DOpenVPN_Server= =0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Encrypt: Cipher=0A> 'BF-CBC' i= nitialized with 128 bit key=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Enc= rypt: Using=0A> 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication=0A> > S= at Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Decrypt: Cipher=0A> 'BF-CBC' initializ= ed with 128 bit key=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 Data Channel Decrypt: Us= ing=0A> 160 bit message hash 'SHA1' for HMAC authentication=0A> > Sat Jul 2= 5 16:20:15 2009 Control Channel: TLSv1,=0A> cipher TLSv1/SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES2= 56-SHA, 1024 bit RSA=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:15 2009 [OpenVPN_Server] Peer= =0A> Connection Initiated with 200.80.219.194:443=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16= 2009 SENT CONTROL=0A> [OpenVPN_Server]: 'PUSH_REQUEST' (status=3D1)=0A> > = Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 PUSH: Received control=0A> message: 'PUSH_REPLY,ro= ute-delay 5=0A> 30,dhcp-pre-release,dhcp-renew,dhcp-release,redirect-privat= e=0A> local,redirect-private bypass-dhcp,redirect-private=0A> bypass-dns,ro= ute-metric 101,route 192.168.0.0=0A> 255.255.255.0,route-gateway 172.16.0.1= ,topology subnet,ping=0A> 8,ping-restart 90,socket-flags TCP_NODELAY,ifconf= ig=0A> 172.16.0.2 255.255.0.0'=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 Options error= : Unrecognized=0A> option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:2:=0A> = dhcp-pre-release (2.1_rc18)=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 Options error: U= nrecognized=0A> option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:3:=0A> dhc= p-renew (2.1_rc18)=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 Options error: Unrecogniz= ed=0A> option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:4:=0A> dhcp-release= (2.1_rc18)=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: timers and/or=0A= > timeouts modified=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT:=0A> --so= cket-flags option modified=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 NOTE: setsockopt= =0A> TCP_NODELAY=3D1 failed (No kernel support)=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2= 009 OPTIONS IMPORT: --ifconfig/up=0A> options modified=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:= 20:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: route options=0A> modified=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:2= 0:16 2009 OPTIONS IMPORT: route-related=0A> options modified=0A> > Sat Jul = 25 16:20:16 2009 ROUTE=0A> default_gateway=3D192.168.0.1=0A> > Sat Jul 25 1= 6:20:16 2009 TUN/TAP device /dev/tun0=0A> opened=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 = 2009 /sbin/ifconfig tun0=0A> 172.16.0.2 172.16.0.2 netmask 255.255.0.0 mtu = 1500 up=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:16 2009 /sbin/route add -net=0A> 172.16.0.0 = 172.16.0.2 255.255.0.0=0A> > add net 172.16.0.0: gateway 172.16.0.2=0A> > S= at Jul 25 16:20:21 2009 WARNING: potential route=0A> subnet conflict betwee= n local LAN=0A> [192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0] and remote VPN=0A> [192.168.0.0= /255.255.255.0]=0A> >=A0=A0=A0=0A> =0A> You can't use the same address spac= e for multiple=0A> networks.=A0 In other=0A> words, you can't use 192.168.0= .0/24 for both the VPN and=0A> your internal=0A> network unless you are bri= dging the two (i.e., making it=0A> one network).=0A> =0A> So the simple ans= wer is to change the client machine's=0A> network to=0A> something other th= an 192.168.0.0/24 if you can.=A0=0A> Otherwise you're either=0A> going to h= ave to work out bridging or subnetting both sides=0A> which will=0A> get co= mplicated in a hurry.=0A> =0A> Cheers,=0A> =0A> Drew=0A> =0A> =0A> > Sat Ju= l 25 16:20:21 2009 /sbin/route add -net=0A> 192.168.0.0 172.16.0.1 255.255.= 255.0=0A> > route: writing to routing socket: File exists=0A> > add net 192= .168.0.0: gateway 172.16.0.1: route already=0A> in table=0A> > Sat Jul 25 1= 6:20:21 2009 ERROR: FreeBSD route add=0A> command failed: external program = exited with error status:=0A> 1=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:21 2009 Initializati= on Sequence=0A> Completed=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 event_wait : Inter= rupted=0A> system call (code=3D4)=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 TCP/UDP: C= losing socket=0A> > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 Closing TUN/TAP interface=0A> = > Sat Jul 25 16:20:30 2009 SIGINT[hard,] received,=0A> process exiting=0A> = >=A0=A0=A0=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Be a Great Magician!=0A> Visit The Alchemi= st's Warehouse=0A> =0A> http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com=0A> =0A> =0A=0A= =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 03:00:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D32E106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CEC8FC26 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6R30OSl071217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:00:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6R30O9E056159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:00:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6R30Ofi056158; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:00:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:00:24 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Modulok Message-ID: <20090727030023.GV63413@dan.emsphone.com> References: <64c038660907261640o478e38f2p82d1e66942d2fcb0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64c038660907261640o478e38f2p82d1e66942d2fcb0@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:00:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Syslog date format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:00:26 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 26), Modulok said: > Is it possible (without patching source) to change the date format > that syslog spits out into the log files? If so, how? The manual page > makes no mention of it. No, if you want to change it you'd have to edit the source. Note that the current date format matches RFC 3164, so if you change it, you risk breaking any parsing program that tries to read the logfiles, and if you forward those messages to another machine, they won't recognise your timestamp and will probably add another timestamp to the line. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 04:43:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692B106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10DD8FC21 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so3565629qyk.3 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:43:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=j3JVePcmk0MJqmX6wRFGjKWMNARD+BYzFaVsRp46apI=; b=YO14jFU6BO9bTQoQVv/CTQvmC8txMtmlzDF9ZRzff4wVQUaScf9Ygz/j5qwao2FNAP 85ioKxbKHb1lo+1agDwD13WCjl/3IjYnebQfwTLD/fn31L49zr53tPMov0y/GzXaUh2C XQMeCAj5GYXwwMHhDEdasvmYHSz3vZwadNi2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=NzJyGGg5UzQvsX6doiCN0kyUlZUTIpIQVMZxYJJCohaKu8YrwuS4l8hrlHDYcSiPEl mT6zkXakxKV3feTS6xVN8vVNzyodNJvZXo6NzR02AnloBmtmCEzUtadA+pCYSb4sZfm8 EDE6oukzMw4R1hYphaZYG9ccJpScR2mEf49zc= Received: by 10.224.29.11 with SMTP id o11mr5536214qac.300.1248669804436; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.250? ([201.21.144.81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm8372429qwg.25.2009.07.26.21.43.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Philipp Ost , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <4A6CD314.8070501@smo.de> References: <200907261936.n6QJabpZ000012@mp.cs.niu.edu> <4A6CD314.8070501@smo.de> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:43:20 -0300 Message-Id: <1248669800.36609.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: updating to ghostscript8-8.64_2 fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:43:25 -0000 Strange here it works... both in amd64 as in i386 software ghostsctip8-8.64_6 I used portmaster -Bug print/ghostsctipt8 worked for me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 05:20:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660921065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com (mail-ew0-f217.google.com [209.85.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E8D8FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so1090221ewy.43 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:20:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Ka468Cpd8a9s5KBQuej2a8HEqnAz6a+bjce8zaz8j0=; b=bmCY57Zx3XKQvOCP1ombeG4kp0rFlTmkvtF0I/nPZ6eu+ZCXYNoUf6MkKdsqG8wdF0 vSs/JAGO/jDiDIZetD4Ce3xVG3lH+BQucNpUc01AIt9xVapyn6e5jP8ZfGcQk3242QnH BggXQT7pI8zMBSC4onF0Qidlf5PGs4XV5pFI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZdaciqEtyYeXT0DR2FxkGHmQ9pBQX+iCZmRo11ZRrUGHsjXJQUfwjZj4aYmJMzHRwJ fWflP+7e5bVLE5Z+YmspARc6BkpZov3wd9ciFz7CiwA+GmK7x+aleW532SdrWzNrxTPw btqSOknJrn9IbU/pwBMgVvJrAdQ8TKFkIBJIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr7822336ebd.25.1248672023045; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:20:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090727030023.GV63413@dan.emsphone.com> References: <64c038660907261640o478e38f2p82d1e66942d2fcb0@mail.gmail.com> <20090727030023.GV63413@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:20:23 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660907262220w3eeca9d9h2fb41fac6cbe4bfc@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Syslog date format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:20:24 -0000 One would think that ISO 8601 date strings would make more sense, in addition not being language dependent. But I guess that's out. Thanks anyway! -Modulok- On 7/26/09, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jul 26), Modulok said: >> Is it possible (without patching source) to change the date format >> that syslog spits out into the log files? If so, how? The manual page >> makes no mention of it. > > No, if you want to change it you'd have to edit the source. Note that the > current date format matches RFC 3164, so if you change it, you risk breaking > any parsing program that tries to read the logfiles, and if you forward > those messages to another machine, they won't recognise your timestamp and > will probably add another timestamp to the line. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 07:38:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878BE106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo-1.bolsabilbao.es (correo-1.bolsabilbao.es [212.8.77.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D846D8FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo_4.bolsabilbao.es ([10.33.5.204]) by correo-1.bolsabilbao.es with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:26:54 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:26:24 +0200 Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 In-Reply-To: <20090608143609.GA5108@it.ca> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NFS : -alldirs requested but is not a filesystem mountpoint Thread-Index: AcnoRpyhlQHFt2AmQCy8623akhjyYAmQi/5g References: <4A2D0A5C.8010809@webrz.net> <20090608143609.GA5108@it.ca> From: "Aitor San Juan" To: Importance: normal Priority: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 07:26:54.0741 (UTC) FILETIME=[9DFE4450:01CA0E8B] Subject: NFS : -alldirs requested but is not a filesystem mountpoint X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:38:04 -0000 Hello List, I have a FreeBSD 5.4 (yes a bit old), and I'm just using it as a NFS server. The server has got a filesystem located at /data This local filesystem has several subdirectories, and I'd like these subdirectories to be visible to a client host, but not all as a whole. This is the hierarchy at /data: /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls /data/bulletins/etc/ftpmotd <-- this is only for FTP's ftpchroot config /data/taxes/docs /data/taxes/etc/ftpmotd <-- this is only for FTP's ftpchroot config The data to be visible is under /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls (and all its subdirectories) and /data/taxes/docs (and all its subdirectories) As the content of both directories has nothing to do with each other, I'd like them to be "independently" exported. Thus, a client needing access to these data should issue 2 mount's for each data. I don't want both directories to be visible with just one mount. This is what I've coded in my /etc/exports /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 /data/taxes/docs -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 And this is what syslog says: -alldirs requested but /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls is not a filesystem mountpoint bad exports list line /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 -alldirs requested but /data/taxes/docs is not a filesystem mountpoint bad exports list line /data/taxes/docs -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 Reading through etc/exports(5) and having seen those error messages, I think I should create another separate filesystem on my server. However, I haven't got any space left for another slice. Is it possible to somehow accomplish what I want in this scenario? Many thanks in advance. ************ LEGEZKO OHARRA / AVISO LEGAL / LEGAL ADVICE *************=20 Mezu honek isilpeko informazioa gorde dezake, edo jabea duena, edota = legez babestuta dagoena. Zuri zuzendua ez bada, bidali duenari esan eta = ezabatu, inori berbidali edo gorde gabe, legeak debekatzen duelako = mezuak erabiltzea baimenik gabe.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o = legalmente protegida. Si usted no es el destinatario, le rogamos lo = comunique al remitente y proceda a borrarlo, sin reenviarlo ni = conservarlo, ya que su uso no autorizado esta prohibido legalmente. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged = information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, = please notify it to the sender and delete without resending or backing = it, as it is legally prohibited. *************************************************************************= * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 07:48:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756431065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo-1.bolsabilbao.es (correo-1.bolsabilbao.es [212.8.77.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924788FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asanjuan@bolsabilbao.es) Received: from correo_4.bolsabilbao.es ([10.33.5.204]) by correo-1.bolsabilbao.es with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:48:28 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:47:53 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4325 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NFS : -alldirs requested but is not a filesystem mountpoint - SOLVED Thread-Index: AcnoRpyhlQHFt2AmQCy8623akhjyYAmQi/5gAAFjLaA= References: <4A2D0A5C.8010809@webrz.net> <20090608143609.GA5108@it.ca> From: "Aitor San Juan" To: Importance: normal Priority: normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 07:48:28.0300 (UTC) FILETIME=[A103B4C0:01CA0E8E] Subject: RE: NFS : -alldirs requested but is not a filesystem mountpoint - SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:48:31 -0000 Solved: "-alldirs" was unnecessary Thanks. -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] En nombre de Aitor San Juan Enviado el: lunes, 27 de julio de 2009 9:26 Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Asunto: NFS : -alldirs requested but is not a filesystem mountpoint Hello List, I have a FreeBSD 5.4 (yes a bit old), and I'm just using it as a NFS server. The server has got a filesystem located at /data This local filesystem has several subdirectories, and I'd like these subdirectories to be visible to a client host, but not all as a whole. This is the hierarchy at /data: /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls /data/bulletins/etc/ftpmotd <-- this is only for FTP's ftpchroot config /data/taxes/docs /data/taxes/etc/ftpmotd <-- this is only for FTP's ftpchroot config The data to be visible is under /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls (and all its subdirectories) and /data/taxes/docs (and all its subdirectories) As the content of both directories has nothing to do with each other, I'd like them to be "independently" exported. Thus, a client needing access to these data should issue 2 mount's for each data. I don't want both directories to be visible with just one mount. This is what I've coded in my /etc/exports /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 /data/taxes/docs -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 And this is what syslog says: -alldirs requested but /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls is not a filesystem mountpoint bad exports list line /data/bulletins/nfs_bulls -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 -alldirs requested but /data/taxes/docs is not a filesystem mountpoint bad exports list line /data/taxes/docs -alldirs -ro -network MyNet -mask 255.255.255.0 Reading through etc/exports(5) and having seen those error messages, I think I should create another separate filesystem on my server. However, I haven't got any space left for another slice. Is it possible to somehow accomplish what I want in this scenario? Many thanks in advance. ************ LEGEZKO OHARRA / AVISO LEGAL / LEGAL ADVICE *************=20 Mezu honek isilpeko informazioa gorde dezake, edo jabea duena, edota = legez babestuta dagoena. Zuri zuzendua ez bada, bidali duenari esan eta = ezabatu, inori berbidali edo gorde gabe, legeak debekatzen duelako = mezuak erabiltzea baimenik gabe.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o = legalmente protegida. Si usted no es el destinatario, le rogamos lo = comunique al remitente y proceda a borrarlo, sin reenviarlo ni = conservarlo, ya que su uso no autorizado esta prohibido legalmente. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged = information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, = please notify it to the sender and delete without resending or backing = it, as it is legally prohibited. *************************************************************************= * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 08:22:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068EB106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B578FC1C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B570C7E818 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:22:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:22:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <64c038660907261640o478e38f2p82d1e66942d2fcb0@mail.gmail.com> <20090727030023.GV63413@dan.emsphone.com> <64c038660907262220w3eeca9d9h2fb41fac6cbe4bfc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660907262220w3eeca9d9h2fb41fac6cbe4bfc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907270022.14754.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: Syslog date format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:22:17 -0000 On Sunday 26 July 2009 21:20:23 Modulok wrote: > One would think that ISO 8601 date strings would make more sense, in > addition not being language dependent. But I guess that's out. It isn't too hard to convert on the fly. The real problem is that syslog dates do not contain a year and timezone. The taillog program below sig therefore may lie about the generated date. Most notably a year is non-optional in ISO 8601. Anyway, taillog is basically tail(1), except it shows the following: % sudo taillog -2 /var/log/cron 2009-07-27 00:11:00-0800 smoochies /usr/sbin/cron[25808]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) 2009-07-27 00:15:00-0800 smoochies /usr/sbin/cron[25834]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) -- Mel # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # taillog/BSDmakefile # taillog/taillog.c # echo x - taillog/BSDmakefile sed 's/^X//' >taillog/BSDmakefile << 'f307a85b0a9ff60c11589de765a71b95' X# $Coar: utils/taillog/BSDmakefile,v 1.1 2009/07/27 07:58:48 mel Exp $ XPROG=taillog XNO_MAN=yes X X.include f307a85b0a9ff60c11589de765a71b95 echo x - taillog/taillog.c sed 's/^X//' >taillog/taillog.c << '4c238c819ad69dd9d8586db323e29997' X/* X * vim: ts=4 sw=4 fdm=marker tw=78 ai noet X * Copyright (c) 2009 Mel Flynn X * All rights reserved. X * X * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without X * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions X * are met: X * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright X * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. X * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright X * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the X * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. X * X * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND X * ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE X * IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE X * ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE X * FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL X * DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS X * OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) X * HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT X * LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY X * OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF X * SUCH DAMAGE. X * X * Taillog: tail(1) helper that converts syslog date format to ISO-8601. X */ X#include X__FBSDID("$Coar: utils/taillog/taillog.c,v 1.1 2009/07/27 07:58:48 mel Exp $"); X X#include X#include X#include X#include X#include X X#include X#include X#include X#include X X#include X#include X X#define TAIL "/usr/bin/tail" X Xstatic inline void init_tp(const struct tm *now, struct tm *tp); X Xint main(int argc, char **argv) X{ X pid_t pid; X int fildes[2], res; X struct tm *now; X time_t clock; X X tzset(); X clock = time(NULL); X now = localtime(&clock); X X res = pipe(fildes); X if( (pid = fork()) == 0 ) /* Child */ X { X close(fildes[0]); X if( dup2(fildes[1], STDOUT_FILENO) < 0 ) X err(EX_OSERR, "dup2()"); X argv[0] = strdup(TAIL); X if( (res = execv(TAIL, argv)) < 0 ) X err(EX_OSERR, "Failed to run tail"); X } X else if( pid > 0 ) /* Parent */ X { X char buf[BUFSIZ]; X FILE *in; X X close(fildes[1]); X if( (in = fdopen(fildes[0], "r")) == NULL ) X err(EX_OSERR, "fdopen()"); X X while( fgets(buf, BUFSIZ, in) != NULL ) X { X struct tm tp; X size_t len = strlen(buf); X char *ptr, tbuf[32]; X X init_tp(now, &tp); X ptr = strptime(buf, "%b %e %T", &tp); X if( ptr == NULL ) X { X warnx("Line does not start with syslog date"); X printf("%s", buf); X } X else X { X if( strftime(tbuf, sizeof(tbuf), "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S%z", &tp) == 0 ) X err(EX_SOFTWARE, "Can't convert time"); X res = printf("%s%s", tbuf, ptr); X } X // Read and print till end of line X while( buf[len-1] != '\n' ) X { X if( fgets(buf, BUFSIZ, in) == NULL ) X err(EX_OSERR, "Can't read line"); X printf("%s", buf); X len = strlen(buf); X } X } X (void)waitpid(pid, &res, 0); X close(fildes[0]); X } X else X err(EX_OSERR, "Failed to fork"); X X return (0); X} X Xstatic inline void init_tp(const struct tm *now, struct tm *tp) X{ X tp->tm_year = now->tm_year; X tp->tm_isdst = now->tm_isdst; X tp->tm_zone = (now->tm_zone == NULL) ? NULL : strdup(now->tm_zone); X tp->tm_gmtoff = now->tm_gmtoff; X} 4c238c819ad69dd9d8586db323e29997 exit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 09:17:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0813106567B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4AE8FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.175.178.97] (helo=moosi) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1MVMLA-000Ay2-Pc; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:17:52 +0400 To: PJ References: <4A6B6A25.2040508@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907251532u5a100c2du15c910d51522bc26@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B8F5A.7050203@videotron.ca> <46921322@ipt.ru> <4A6CD00F.3000405@videotron.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:19:06 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A6CD00F.3000405@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Sun\, 26 Jul 2009 17\:52\:15 -0400") Message-ID: <68349989@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 amd64 Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:17:55 -0000 PJ writes: > Now that my 7.2 on Acer Travelmate 4400 amd64 is working fine, what do > I have to do to make it work on 7.1? I'd advise you to upgrade the OS at least to 7.2. There have been many changes to linuxulator since 7.1. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 09:28:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE0A106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gosha-necr@yandex.ru) Received: from forward3.yandex.ru (forward3.yandex.ru [77.88.46.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8649D8FC1E for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gosha-necr@yandex.ru) Received: from webmail46.yandex.ru (webmail46.yandex.ru [77.88.32.219]) by forward3.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 876541D3802B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:17:27 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail46.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6D78BF243B3 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:17:27 +0400 (MSD) X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: webmail46 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1248686247 Received: from [77.223.91.154] ([77.223.91.154]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:17:26 +0400 From: "gosha-necr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <206191248686246@webmail46.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:17:26 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: 7.2 i386 and 7.2 amd64 on M/B Asus K8S-MX problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:28:59 -0000 Good day! I'm install freebsd 7.2 on computer with Asus K8S-MX motherboard, and there is such problems: Not recognized LAN. Here info about this M/B: http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=0kP4nePr06XiYdYQ -- -------------------------------------------- С уважением, Гуляев Гоша. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 09:29:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A043106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryu.planka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EC48FC1F for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryu.planka@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2408712bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:29:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=56UrG7QDuhJMC/Yki3gYWxl+wicyyWDD/HvS0lQ5QlM=; b=Ejz7A6hbRbRUsgCJTtp4SdAFFN/wa/y+Mt/FHZYE8pcIedkcmSSYhbbmAI6Ceik6wc lcO7yL+c7obG3oAL4fcAPl0WHP3a9AS41E5TVcwtDlETn44pLxbeyo/jSD0VMJBEBxb8 MHIbWqDIw8D2AFLTv8A8fh8RGxkIrWBNDycjs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=l9RoMgFG8Ith9bSH2qbGIpN9twpQk31wE2AjMj9tZpbCkvj/3iUdSpyvQlbmN2I3+U cjZnphLVoeavxRW5lIJ+w1rGxV+9ChDIfvhMPoZtRJexKXBwgF2YvaHFFTmULJFmq2hB 1k65F8nQmHUMuVj4ortzhgh33qKk2Z57/Ww4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr2858366bkq.102.1248685094750; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:58:14 +0300 Message-ID: From: son goku To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:29:47 -0000 Hi all, I am a part of a team that is planning to open a start-up company. We plan to ship a revolutionary storage controller. We are now investigating possible OS for the product. The choices that we came up with are either LINUX or Free-BSD. I am strongly biased toward Free-BSD, however I still need to understand the licensing impacts of using a Free-BSD kernel. Browsing the web about the BSD license just made me confused. Seems like to understand these licensing issues you must be a lawyer. I got the following questions regarding source license: 1.Do I need to open the source code for my product if I use the BSD kernel as part of the product? 2.If I do some kernel changes, do I need to open those changes as well? 3.What about Dtrace, if I use DTrace will I need to open code that use it? 4.Suppose the answer for 1-3 is no, s there any other reason why I need to open the code. Please understand that my questions stem from the fact that we are afraid of exposing our source code, especially during the first phases of the project. It is more than possible, that we will re-consider our approach in later stages and open some or all our code to the community. Thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 11:10:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A55106576E for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33488FC29 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 522AC28410; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:09:52 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:09:52 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: son goku Message-ID: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:10:10 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:58:14AM +0300, son goku wrote: [...] > Browsing the web about the BSD license just made me confused. Seems like to > understand these licensing issues you must be a lawyer. Basically the BSD licence is: do what you like, but: 1. don't say you did it all by yourself. 2. you can't blame us for anything. 3. Include the COPYRIGHT notice. > I got the following questions regarding source license: > 1.Do I need to open the source code for my product if I use the BSD kernel > as part of the product? No. > 2.If I do some kernel changes, do I need to open those changes as well? No. > 3.What about Dtrace, if I use DTrace will I need to open code that use it? The CDDL licence seems to imply that you do. > 4.Suppose the answer for 1-3 is no, s there any other reason why I need to > open the code. Only if you feel like it. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus saves. Allah forgives. Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 11:28:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80EE106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6988FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6RBUpBK007104 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:30:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4A6D8F5D.7020600@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:28:29 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: son goku , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:28:46 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > >> 4.Suppose the answer for 1-3 is no, s there any other reason why I need to >> open the code. > > Only if you feel like it. > I'd make that, Only if you feel like it or would like the warm glow of giving back to the community (and of course all those extra eyes to audit and improve your code ;) ) That said their is no obligation at all. Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 12:42:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99481065674 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryu.planka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E848FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryu.planka@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2499013bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:42:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Au8nfZJtNzKL1dAzAKFZSWTlT/9Dd1k8Gr87rX0eW80=; b=FUKs7MPXOOickRMRha6pmP2TpRWzyfXOXiTc9zCWtfRNyAXSgW5/326IKLV92wQZ2h 6mVu9I3+yA/2ojCVuWGgRwCOAxK3FrQC0i2NlguWeq3JC8yc/r/P7cn0Qz2d2EiQjatn J3pvwz5wxZ5oy6VlHEdJFHFiSMoblbeSvUaHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YWVyA5XNwVvCY/yNCsbNf0pdSOF8ioBqms98fVRtbZg0nh2OUqw1yvhN/Fr6Rp2C3M YcWHxLOlMrjfa4fp4dreKRvKsHTJZLqSFpNs/tLf86l3SDG7+wGbSjuTSf+jksSmazte 3YHp0P5E/JC1OwB2J15qvE0k/G+0B1CREZ6u0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr3055113bkq.102.1248698550007; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:42:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A6D8F5D.7020600@unsane.co.uk> References: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> <4A6D8F5D.7020600@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:42:29 +0300 Message-ID: From: son goku To: Vincent Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:42:32 -0000 Thanks guys for the prompt answers!!! It seems weird that code that uses dtrace must be opened. I mean every serious production level application must have some dtrace-like mechanism inside to collect online information when needed. It is a shame that because of licensing issues, I will have to roll-my-own and re-invent the wheel all over again, probably with cruder and implementation that is more flawed compared to dtrace. I wonder what all the proprietary modules for Solaris (VxVM jumps to mind...) or BSD do? Or there are no such modules anymore... On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > >> 4.Suppose the answer for 1-3 is no, s there any other reason why I need > to > >> open the code. > > > > Only if you feel like it. > > > I'd make that, Only if you feel like it or would like the warm glow of > giving back to the community (and of course all those extra eyes to > audit and improve your code ;) ) That said their is no obligation at all. > > Vince > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 12:45:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704871065674 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 001658FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8118 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2009 12:44:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248698699; bh=PMLMjFEyBMeHliWYWEn7g3HSkazvg6O4m5XkdJARpJc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MuYv6YIa5lzPxMmlWYIT/gb3pWMPsudUFdLp3tPBlveuuDUGZi2/JnbhW4/CZjp6WUnN+rdy3jDMarouv0A7DaxhOwBq7ZiSwGvYrSlkHWXe6ktyOQhugthevq/7sVVqQt9l9bl/SpbVA7XXDBf7YB7QxLJnUUvzrHTvIcMyTg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RcdJseonieG7vNlVwUddGpWc9VuTeZrgMX4BOwihkqgbsFETpJzXzwQ5amAlybW/UT/6C2Jgx0tfsdiDjESjge1po0RH1rELPG2pjk93wrAVGx7kJn6LVJp/PPaoi8pFMbbd/vQs4kKxdNGT19YMd2TWwoVv/HsetDpi3cnyDkk=; Message-ID: <310025.75856.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JOdMpQcVM1nZhu3jKKMkVWScrCpqnxb.bhxeo.jSktG_ChN3DQzcIukzzKDPbAXN0HrwAK.SVuTMt.uSerB2Z1WUfKraY2aEWrg8l1jGnn5pkBfzyWufoQKFWRMuWbiJTkLUdPjZw6Ya.z8J0SvkYCPcHU8_wfYisflExNylpuodb0k49d3DUw9IkY1tFuXQQD9WISzyFAhrWVmFi4H9lS.GaISjkEgXOHutyPyEDCvdZlh3l142ExWCsDwEg5r56trD_CsgG7UyOoP3xnH0.SObLchM8nwHlonLrygK3lhkbkKm3p4- Received: from [220.255.7.182] by web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:44:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:45:00 -0000 Hi all I need to remove some unwanted symlinks on /dev using a C program. The "struct dirent" only shows the symlink name, how do I find what that symlink points to for verification purpose? Regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 13:03:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB8A106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4118FC26 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 98357 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jul 2009 13:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 27 Jul 2009 13:04:02 -0000 In-Reply-To: <200907261109.44586.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <200907260045.12045.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <8A69BBD9-5F3C-44B8-96C0-586C1B5A386F@identry.com> <200907261109.44586.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8AF593F8-DA94-4C54-89E2-155988886331@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:03:43 -0400 To: Mel Flynn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:03:46 -0000 >> understanding what is going on. I'm reading up on this, and as soon >> as I know enough to either understand the issue, or ask an >> intelligent question, I will do so... > > When a program is executed with arguments, there is a system > imposed limit on > the size of this argument list. On FreeBSD this limit can be seen > with sysctl > kern.argmax, which is the length in bytes. > When you do "ls *", what really happens is that the shell expands > the asterisk > to all entries in the current directory, except entries starting > with a dot > ("hidden" files and directories). As a result, ls is really called as: > ls file1 file2 .... fileN > > If the string length of file1 to fileN is bigger then kern.argmax, > then you > will get argument list too long error. Mel, What I get is this: > sysctl kern.argmax kern.argmax: 262144 Which is why I'm starting to think that (a) my problem is different or (b) I'm so clueless that there isn't any problem at all, and I'm just not understanding something (most likely scenario!) I'm going to write a little script that generates a bunch of files to test my hypothesis that once I get more than n files in a directory, some things stop working correctly, like ls and ftp directory listings, and to discover the value of n. That will give me some hard data to work with. This problem has been nagging at me for a while, so it's time I nail it down once and for all... I'll be back... -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 13:11:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5821065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A09D8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 99269 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jul 2009 13:11:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 27 Jul 2009 13:11:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0DDF77FD-C2E7-4DD0-9E05-1117322D0D58@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: John Almberg Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:11:37 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: svn+ssh server only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:11:39 -0000 On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Kalle M=F8ller wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to make a ssh+svn server only (apache is installed, but =20 > that is > for view.vc) For what its worth, I just built a new svn server (to replace my old =20 apache-based svn server that should have been replaced years ago, but =20= it kept on doing the job). 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This setup is super-simple, fast, and secure =20 enough for my needs. -- John= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 13:36:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564391065739 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8CE8FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:56635 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MVQN5-0001bj-5q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:36:09 +0200 Received: (qmail 22045 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2009 15:36:05 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2009 15:36:05 +0200 Received: (qmail 7167 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jul 2009 15:36:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:36:05 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Unga Message-ID: <20090727133605.GA7137@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <310025.75856.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <310025.75856.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1MVQN5-0001bj-5q. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1MVQN5-0001bj-5q 264d0129e1e6f46ec2a53534c94788fe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:36:43 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 05:44:59AM -0700, Unga wrote: > > Hi all > > I need to remove some unwanted symlinks on /dev using a C program. > > The "struct dirent" only shows the symlink name, how do I find what that > symlink points to for verification purpose? By using the readlink(2) system call. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 13:45:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5F7106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 747498FC21 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56434 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2009 13:45:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248702313; bh=yAGGPT1H1yRA/AurUJGPab+khkF3vreep+26Z2gND0o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zrPANU6XlzqPkjmDvbeQy9DubNPzRjBkB2cCI8j6hAerWGzpb0hyJ2JGzbnrts/WcIq6qoDSkCGeCdlyOyBOfjuUW4LUq4evDGILwzFofXM6NVT9jilEIhpE/Hv0skM+syNsWSTijhvhxyfLMZiaTy3d2kb7ZoI9Vlt4wsJBk9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DATIkY8p7v/q2EGYZTK5AZe2VOwfKIAYh9iEgzjdrScNhpW5PIMF3uZGXYdSOGVNNQjna7OwhBMuO0F7fgSOQxCphw5OUJ0Wxq+kyQeI1JSnNjJOCWIKOrTZB5bGYl+N0NsS3UiF3QEOEruQyZT+2/Z+IRMbySej9YERY8wNrko=; Message-ID: <771031.86846.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: n71AVl8VM1mhOaflL7s1EnE1iTKT1CBtBVnogUPrd0J13i2QAI7_2VV50lW0f38P___pAA0EtWLw4ZHcQYchUxIfS.NYjMSSYdrdfq6yaSqAO2iGWMoZrSqt6nrvFiKsWImVEdJ1aCVyXx2HJ6_CXPJqGxSKteVqXT2.XuN3rfjKo6jePHH7ve9gjUgZGNEsn9TjNXimDyO5CCTbHIHyplxfsqocsOwFRwabxJ6i1zplPc3U0bFWQq4kxJ.Gf97k1Nd1ILg1ptTMEqA3SMsAwGtEj7o.AZBpkBscUlkyXP0R Received: from [220.255.7.135] by web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:45:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:45:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Erik Trulsson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:45:15 -0000 --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Erik Trulsson wrote: > From: Erik Trulsson > Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? > To: "Unga" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 9:36 PM > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 05:44:59AM > -0700, Unga wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I need to remove some unwanted symlinks on /dev using > a C program. > > > > The "struct dirent" only shows the symlink name, how > do I find what that > > symlink points to for verification purpose? > > By using the readlink(2) system call. > But readlink(2) fails with errno set to 2. Can readlink(2) use with dev nodes? Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 13:48:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CD7106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f214.google.com (mail-fx0-f214.google.com [209.85.220.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22308FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so116595fxm.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=siSj9OYY+C4ybjEtLm62bmZ6Z+WQWMOjSaTTYb3ON4Q=; b=mFSk+z9kgjF0ASWT338xbFVkK/D20VihRbsc+56sAqWIKyf6qbJBLRY7J6L00Jb6i6 jg0gRdTrOM41hQzs2rddTKfEosWGbsKo0viCjMfDOQN4HeYiRfsZKeZDgYYPDodEi8Yx Eo3VGb2ARQCtZnuQ4+DssiVF3u77PotEvgjaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NhqI0ZKwwXlz8U2P1I7qInrYdI77ZxR1TLiTAPoylOqJZtypl1/OaGu29F2XnTTfw+ AiEkZYeT6Dh2i6RbR2w8UElDYvjhgxJhbw0IFutQuJbBCOArozwHoqsnsg7bqq8RCvKs S5GoNS2srRFMKicCa9Uz93DAUivRP5xFpGpoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.78 with SMTP id e14mr2622051fap.88.1248702523580; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:48:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <771031.86846.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <771031.86846.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Unga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:45 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Unga wrote: > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Erik Trulsson wrote: > >> From: Erik Trulsson >> Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? >> To: "Unga" >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 9:36 PM >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 05:44:59AM >> -0700, Unga wrote: >> > >> > Hi all >> > >> > I need to remove some unwanted symlinks on /dev using >> a C program. >> > >> > The "struct dirent" only shows the symlink name, how >> do I find what that >> > symlink points to for verification purpose? >> >> By using the readlink(2) system call. >> > > But readlink(2) fails with errno set to 2. Can readlink(2) use with dev nodes? > > Unga > Doesn't 'ls -alh' provide that information? 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Ram=E9 http://leonardorame.blogspot.com =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 16:30:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42195106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E438FC24 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so103823fxm.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=X2Pzyl0+ywL6Vcw8uC36szF//oNh2X/XPfSrNJKGLng=; b=hqJW1+W7VJuIQSBTQRjTL0eiPytT8MMJHeU2Uw08OIzlykiKDOuMTfY5BzWvyuXuSl S39Qaea/ny6PovdChAz976oEQkwN2uAvsS+kxEx5Bwwd6s8U41+KphT4/pEy6X/Fg7nf DjcqsDVWXvS6ImgpWdbsVkhGA3bIKQ+gww094= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nVr1VGSnonowo9sUOYMv3Zb4bOeLG0jiJEoEfWT4iebbqBSNUJpd5UZQYfdd1V+edF QcvlnEAYUyrSKZAmhzn2mxy6M4BLGc+ZQ+zOeyN2/7JZR/WqRsYTDaCBiIQuO8/zz/HW rIvgeuEVd6y93R4tC2w0JueoT1ehdgYV4JhGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.19 with SMTP id b19mr731536hbg.2.1248712236566; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> <4A6D8F5D.7020600@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:30:36 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: son goku Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen , Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:30:38 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:42 AM, son goku wrote: > Thanks guys for the prompt answers!!! > It seems weird that code that uses dtrace must be opened. I mean every > serious production level application must have some dtrace-like mechanism > inside to collect online information when needed. It is a shame that > because > of licensing issues, I will have to roll-my-own and re-invent the wheel a= ll > over again, probably with cruder and implementation that is more flawed > compared to dtrace. > > I wonder what all the proprietary modules for Solaris (VxVM jumps to > mind...) or BSD do? Or there are no such modules anymore... > > http://www.sun.com/cddl/ ----------------------------- http://www.sun.com/cddl/cddl.html - *1.3. =E2=80=9CCovered Software=E2=80=9D* means (a) the Original Softwar= e, or (b) Modifications, or (c) the combination of files containing Original Softw= are with files containing Modifications, in each case including portions thereof. - *1.6. =E2=80=9CLarger Work=E2=80=9D* means a work which combines Covered= Software or portions thereof with code not governed by the terms of this License. - - *3.6. Larger Works.* You may create a Larger Work by combining Covered Software with other code not governed by the terms of this License and distribute the Larger Work as a single product. In such a case, You must make sure the requirements of this License are fulfilled for the Covered Software. -------------------------- http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.php http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/cddllicense.txt http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/ http://www.opensolaris.com/licensing/opensolaris_license/ http://www.netbeans.org/cddl.html http://www.openmediacommons.org/CDDL_License.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0 This is a free software license. It has a copyleft with a scope that's similar to the one in the Mozilla Public License, which makes it incompatible with the GNU GPL . This means a module covered by the GPL and a module covered by the CDDL cannot legally be linked together. We urge you not to use the CDDL for this reason= . Also unfortunate in the CDDL is its use of the term =E2=80=9Cintellectual property =E2=80=9D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License http://soundadvice.id.au/blog/2005/02/04/#cddl =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/licensing_faq/ *If I use code licensed under the CDDL in my proprietary product, will I have to share my source code?* Yes, for any source files that are licensed under the CDDL and any modifications you make. However, you don't need to share the source for you= r proprietary source files. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://lwn.net/Articles/114839/ I am NOT a lawyer , therefore my opinions does NOT have any legal value . In short , CDDL does NOT require to disclose your OWN proprietary sources , BUT ONLY requires to explicitly supply CDDL licensed parts with any changes applied to them with respect to CDDL license . If you are a commercial entity my suggestion would be to seek legal advise from a lawyer with expertise on software licenses and copyrights . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 17:25:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892D2106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FB68FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A237E818 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:25:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:25:19 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <771031.86846.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <771031.86846.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907270925.19456.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:25:21 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 05:45:13 Unga wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > I need to remove some unwanted symlinks on /dev using > > > > a C program. > > > > > The "struct dirent" only shows the symlink name, how > > > > do I find what that > > > > > symlink points to for verification purpose? > > > > By using the readlink(2) system call. > > But readlink(2) fails with errno set to 2. Can readlink(2) use with dev > nodes? Works for me. errno 2 is ENOENT ("No such file or directory"). I would inspect if your request path points to the right location. % ./rl /dev/stderr /dev/stderr => fd/2 % cat rl.c #include #include #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { char path[MAXPATHLEN], buf[MAXPATHLEN+1]; ssize_t res; if( argc != 2 ) exit(67); (void)strlcpy(path, argv[1], sizeof(path)); res = readlink(path, buf, sizeof(buf)); if( res < 0 ) err(EXIT_FAILURE, "readlink()"); buf[MAXPATHLEN] = '\0'; printf("%s => %s\n", path, buf); return (0); } -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 18:48:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C448106566C; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01118FC14; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D521CCA0; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:30:39 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:30:39 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd1 References: <4A67EC78.1090304@a1poweruser.com> <1248355625.17716.7.camel@localhost> <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions , Randi Harper Subject: Re: Are all USB Flash Memory sticks bootable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:48:02 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > Randi Harper wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi < >> lenzi.sergio@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Em Qui, 2009-07-23 s 12:52 +0800, Fbsd1 escreveu: >>> Hello.... >>> >>> I found here that some bios does have problem with booting >>> from partitions they do not know.... >>> >>> So first I initialize the USB stick with.... >>> ========== >>> dd count=100 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 >>> fdisk -BI da0 >>> sade >>> ========== >>> than edit the partitions... >>> ls /dev/da* should show da0s1 da0s2 >>> than.... >>> disklabel -wB da0s1 >>> disklabel -wB da0s2 >>> newfs -L Freebsd7 da0s1a >>> newfs -L Freebsd8 da0s2a >>> boot0cfg -vB da0 >>> ============ >>> mount the partitions, copy the files >>> boot from the usb... it will show you the F1 F2 chooser.... >>> >>> for me, this worked >>> >>> >>> Sergio >> >> >> Just to clarify, are you trying to boot from a USB stick that you've >> installed FreeBSD onto, or is this a USB stick that you've dd'ed the >> memstick.img to? >> >> You should NOT use disklabel on a usb stick that you're dd'ing the >> memstick.img to. >> >> -- randi >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > Here I will try to re-state the problem. > > I have two USB Flash Memory sticks. One is a 2GB stick and the other is > a 8GB stick. I can install Freebsd 8.0 from disc1 cd onto the 2GB stick > or dd the memstick.img to the 2GB stick and in both cases it will boot > just fine. > > When I repeat the same procedure using the 8GB stick it will not boot. > AS a test I have fdisk'ed the 8GB stick under MS/XP and loaded files to > it ok. > > The only thing I see different between the 2 memsticks is in the > messages 7.2 issues when the sticks get plugged in. > > Take note of the revision level differences between them. > 2.00/1.00 versus rev 2.00/2.00 > > The only other guess I have is that the usb code in 7.2 has > am error in it. > > Brand new 8GB Kingston DataTraveler 120 purchased 7/16/09 > > umass0: > on uhub1 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Not ready to ready change, medium may have > changed > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 > device > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 7643MB (15654848 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 974C) > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0a is ufsid/4a615a2cc673eb3d. > > > # 3 year old 2GB Kingston DataTraveler > umass1: addr 3> on uhub1 > da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 target 0 lun 0 > da1: < USB Flash Memory 6.50> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da1: 1.000MB/s transfers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, I put FreeBSD 7.2 iso (from Maniolis CD/DVD ) on stick (a Sandisk Cruzer 16 GB), and it works fine. This was using the normal install directed to the stick. Booting was not an issue. Maybe your stick is messed up. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 19:20:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BD6106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2B98FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVVjr-0006lu-6N; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:20:02 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVVjq-0001lf-7D; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:19:58 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RJJwfo080262; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:19:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6RJJvuV080261; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:19:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:19:57 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: dinoex@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090727191957.GA79635@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.4 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: Subject: port graphics/gd build fails with XPM or FONTCONFIG or ICONV=on X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:20:04 -0000 On i386 and i64 with FBSD 7.2 and 8.0-beta1 port graphics/gd fails to build if any of the following options are set: XPM=on FONTCONFIG=on ICONV=on with /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.9, needed by /usr/local/lib/libgd.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_read_scanlines' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_simple_progression' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_set_defaults' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_start_decompress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_destroy' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_write_marker' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_destroy_decompress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_std_error' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_CreateDecompress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_read_header' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_start_compress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_destroy_compress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_finish_decompress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_resync_to_restart' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_CreateCompress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_finish_compress' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_set_quality' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_save_markers' /usr/local/lib/libgd.so: undefined reference to `jpeg_write_scanlines' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/gd/work/gd-2.0.35. *** Error code 1 I linking should be done against libjpeg.so.10 If all these three options are off (default) then build goes fine. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 19:49:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF92106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [69.31.85.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933568FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from thoth.ocsny.com ([204.107.76.235]) (authenticated user mikel@olivent.com) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.7.0) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)) for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:19:15 -0400 Message-Id: From: Mikel King To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:19:17 -0400 References: <4A67EC78.1090304@a1poweruser.com> <1248355625.17716.7.camel@localhost> <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Subject: How to doc available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:49:20 -0000 Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in limited space? I have a project that requires enough of running system with lighttpd and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep the thing below 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for whatever the smallest I can get away with. Thanks, in advance. Cheers. m From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 20:00:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DAF1065674 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f196.google.com (mail-px0-f196.google.com [209.85.216.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAFB8FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by pxi34 with SMTP id 34so852515pxi.3 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:00:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=2DwBIgkwOMQ0hQ/L77iciuOwUOtlhCf8HOOdivGGtdM=; b=Ch3E8CwnXJjKR3H4p+F1nd3O07h0Dpvovc5JXBMKIteHmAQq5W0W1UmPjXUPhb7dJP 4+ULOmHlLRzx2o8vNvFv8WPi7SK5fj4TQ+l7L9PhWsopq5+q2trViemsbocni9CWVg5l b94uh/2u0iKc4VpI2r5iXzYcYyou3gVGflrsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=TzZLL/pqBA82QQ0V5hEp3s5xgQGYkFg9LpbuOMS64TIO+IMSvBlAHrEjpoCYyo/xfa WAWAuIlkEkXQNHaIaEDu+FslCsejls+jusRqxGV37YDzS7x0jbkWJMlZI0Aw6afScrWn V8L88g/cOw3dRySuv7ZMs8bmnUQDgapP2HqL4= Received: by 10.115.109.19 with SMTP id l19mr10520016wam.45.1248724813197; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.250? ([201.21.144.81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n33sm14498665wag.21.2009.07.27.13.00.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Mikel King , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: References: <4A67EC78.1090304@a1poweruser.com> <1248355625.17716.7.camel@localhost> <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:00:08 -0300 Message-Id: <1248724808.38069.21.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: How to doc available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:00:15 -0000 excuse-me, but what is the problem with size??? I have a PQI stick that is 29mm X 11mm X 2.5mm and have 4gbytes... and works very good... sells for US$12 here... take a look: http://www.pqigroup.com/product2.asp?oid=19&cate1=19&proid=333 you have inside 4Bg of storage.. usb2.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 20:42:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5E0106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C2F8FC19 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id F32CC597C9A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:42:32 -0700 From: Chris Cowart To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090727204232.GA51584@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: John Almberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <200907260045.12045.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <8A69BBD9-5F3C-44B8-96C0-586C1B5A386F@identry.com> <200907261109.44586.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <8AF593F8-DA94-4C54-89E2-155988886331@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8AF593F8-DA94-4C54-89E2-155988886331@identry.com> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:33 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Almberg wrote: > Which is why I'm starting to think that (a) my problem is different =20 > or (b) I'm so clueless that there isn't any problem at all, and I'm =20 > just not understanding something (most likely scenario!) It looks to me like the thread began assuming that you must be typing `ls *` in order to run into problems. I think we'll have better luck helping you if you tell us exactly what it is you're typing when you observe the problem. --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAwAGBQJKbhE4AAoJEIGh6j3cHUNPuWQP/RXsajsAaessKjhXt0fdsriZ UOKG2xI7Z1X5INYucy1RK3e0CKffqA5GqWvBdUjLrt4AvCGs+PKpftXq0ZfeYE9y fcVkQyR3nT0uXE5HJTOh1nsgx8O8Ng2h1dsFzFcJyGS9dbqnxAU37Pzddad7oVtn 7w+XtBwGOsqow5higJjfacnlwasuxcgOXTxapH8xztccWlhzgNISVfGOZZvjaTwI amfX1jvMgKGxcNGAu494dOH+SngF1ZDZJ9RN6wtKeg2/2FmZaolQwhT+QZtRUgHI VQ0+iZ4obDQw7E3Jbv7jMo0pfrubwq3bes2TnP5RWrZ5G8d7GOMMxxCaj7WR1X9Q gQarbtCb6EIRbo5plARXjl3DK2Qa8PhLndum7TgnJ5YllFjmcY0/cAPJau7h3rmP LqD3EEL2rf7ymaM7nvZ9lui6lHpE5rdXhNMsib5hmQTLIG3xIIGgGLIY2UaKUmib +mBMg5nlj6V39myZzg3sr0Qhx7aarviEbyprHSFUqF7N90Z7s5zrumf9ARdgoDQw jOzV4JfJRM4uY4+q6Qkk7SLMgJ5LdffUAClT3SuoBl/b+kB042qPGFwfKdTcpfHN Ue2OlbgUlFN+zo+i09t1iGL+WlAJEqP3CFCg9zx2Gl48kCAJoJrAatcWmNXziBbv HI05AtYzKyfEwZ+00fzA =1JlH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 20:43:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BCC106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2678FC20 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVX2u-00013v-RR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:47 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVX2u-0000eS-3h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:44 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RKhh3J089286 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6RKhg6L089268 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:42 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.4 X-Spam-Level: --- Subject: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:48 -0000 Connecting to bsdstats.org I get this error: Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in /usr/local/www/bsdstats.org/www/bsdstats/sbin/uri.php on line 142 Is there a problem with this site? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 20:48:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296241065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BC88FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2798031bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B8QEweeT/VNZi52jCVvDcg1p1lhUzHyxZyLigzFE0y0=; b=kDm0YCpul8ZCRNa+Di9PWVY3pDvr7L9gyN5xjXkGG82TFgHlUaj21RDZpWITtOnoJt RO3JCZ2Wd+e9oG5PVHDDVaafJze1fqEdqVUc26ZzI67MROuEQfnjdS20JoOn4Xo/NWj8 V0couKzMcE8mP2ixce/8udB7T2AOlFpUwkNjs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LHXp4C9/suOXBuo02176UcmNDSsmxCkqIaX2Tf4tKX5swwxnMEbYTyw8IExJjeWQfv TKcfHp84+FWyQUUl7MY3fVK8k2buxhrcjtrpjEBF72hZUJ+gvnMIqWym23wF9u5uOyYr bIqou4vGHwNNdHJhEC4FXNY73whk3Fr5gqt1M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.135 with SMTP id b7mr2940938fap.30.1248727692150; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907271348n506e600fq14e1ce709ed1260c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:48:15 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wr= ote: > Connecting to bsdstats.org I get this error: > > =A0 Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in > =A0 /usr/local/www/bsdstats.org/www/bsdstats/sbin/uri.php on line 142 > > Is there a problem with this site? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:01:08 -0000 On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > excuse-me, but what is the problem > with size??? > > I have a PQI stick that is 29mm X 11mm X 2.5mm and > have 4gbytes... and works very good... sells for US$12 here... > > take a look: > http://www.pqigroup.com/product2.asp?oid=19&cate1=19&proid=333 > > you have inside 4Bg of storage.. usb2.0 The problem is that my client has mandated that it be below 640MB so I can not, as much as I would prefer, use a 4GB stick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:03:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC3F106567D for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5A48FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7116C7E821 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:03:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:03:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <20090725222918.AC51DB7E0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <8AF593F8-DA94-4C54-89E2-155988886331@identry.com> <20090727204232.GA51584@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090727204232.GA51584@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907271303.14747.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:03:16 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 12:42:32 Chris Cowart wrote: > John Almberg wrote: > > Which is why I'm starting to think that (a) my problem is different > > or (b) I'm so clueless that there isn't any problem at all, and I'm > > just not understanding something (most likely scenario!) > > It looks to me like the thread began assuming that you must be typing > `ls *` in order to run into problems. Yeah, I just noticed that too. So how did you determine there should be ~4000 files in the directory when ls shows ~2300. Also, does ls give an error message? ls -l >/tmp/out should clear that up and you can use wc -l /tmp/out to see how many files are returned. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:17:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94566106564A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536BE8FC14; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVXZx-0001si-Ez; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:17:55 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVXZw-0000x9-Pi; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:17:53 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RLHq6x088488; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:17:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6RLHpHN088477; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:17:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:17:51 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090727211751.GA76851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.4 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: Subject: bsdstats - fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:17:57 -0000 On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP, running bsdstats-5.4_2, I get this error: # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/task.c:1023: fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) ? 0 : 34) == 0) failed [: 1: unexpected operator # I recall some mutex errors reported by perl-10 tests. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:21:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE86C1065674 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B888FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (221.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.221]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2008263317E; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:05:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF85B944; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:05:26 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: eyup yavas Message-ID: <20090727230526.615a0499@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <20e6d9f30907270156kcc589f3l9af30da36490241d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20e6d9f30907270156kcc589f3l9af30da36490241d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.4; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free bSD Turkish Translation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:21:27 -0000 Le Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:56:53 +0300, eyup yavas a =E9crit : > http://www.tr.freebsd.org/ >=20 > Add yoru Turkish Language Updated Please (Upayi Network) > Based on BSD UNIX=AE =3D Thanks, I think you should submit this to the "doc" mailing list (freebsd-doc@freebsd.org). Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:24:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D32106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EE18FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 21545 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2009 20:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (24.42.224.110) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2009 20:58:00 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 2D03A2841F; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:58:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:58:00 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Mikel King Message-ID: <20090727205800.GB38978@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <4A67EC78.1090304@a1poweruser.com> <1248355625.17716.7.camel@localhost> <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to doc available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:24:41 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 03:19:17PM -0400, Mikel King wrote: > Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in > limited space? I have a project that requires enough of running system > with lighttpd and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep > the thing below 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for > whatever the smallest I can get away with. Have you tried it yet? Once Upon A Time Not So Long Ago, 512MB was a *huge* system disk. And as others have pointed out much larger USB stick is cheap. So how many hours are you willing to spend to save $12? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:27:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69E6106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2CC8FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.202] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE68639EA for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:27:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:27:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: ipf rules question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:27:24 -0000 Ladies and Gentlemen, I think I am missing something. I am running a FreeBSD 6. server with ipf compiled into the kernel. Following are the headers from an email. From: oeajqs@brantbenun.com Subject: ****SUSPECTED SPAM**** REAL Doctors, REAL Science, REAL Results! Date: July 27, 2009 2:33:25 PM CDT To: xxxxxxxxx@mnea.org Reply-To: oeajqs@brantbenun.com Received: from mail.mnea.org ([10.129.10.45]) by mo-hq-s1.mo.loc with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:33:29 -0500 Received: by mail.mnea.org (Postfix, from userid 10071) id 572563F661; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:33:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from speedtouch.lan (213-84-78-162.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.95.130.154]) by mail.mnea.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9233F659 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:33:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 82.95.130.154 by smtp.secureserver.net; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:33:25 +0100 Following are the relevant entries from /var/log/maillog Jul 27 14:33:22 mail postfix/smtpd[8557]: connect from 213-84-78-162.adsl.xs4all.nl[82.95.130.154] Jul 27 14:33:24 mail postfix/smtpd[8557]: DD9233F659: client=213-84-78-162.adsl.xs4all.nl[82.95.130.154] Jul 27 14:33:26 mail postfix/cleanup[7974]: DD9233F659: message-id=<824460019.99376997845866@brantbenun.com > Jul 27 14:33:26 mail postfix/qmgr[52904]: DD9233F659: from=, size=1245, nrcpt=1 (queue active) And, following is the output from ipfstat showing the relevant rule(s). @140 block in quick proto tcp from 82.0.0.0/8 to any port = smtp If I am looking at everything correctly all traffic coming into the system from the 82.0.0.0/8 network to port 25 on the mail server should be blocked. What am I missing? Thanks for your help. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:40:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2C71065672 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: from k2smtpout04-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout04-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 471C48FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: (qmail 25568 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2009 21:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO owa.webmail.maxiscale.com) (72.167.52.135) by k2smtpout04-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.166) with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2009 21:38:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:04 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What order are options in rc.conf processed? Thread-Index: AcoPAoQpxu1SZgkkQcqsT43qCxb3HA== From: "Peter Steele" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:40:18 -0000 We have an rc.conf file that looks something like this: =20 ifconfig_nfe0=3D"UP" ifconfig_nfe1=3D"UP" cloned_interfaces=3D"lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0=3D"laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1 netmask " defaultrouter=3D ... ourapp_enable=3D"YES" =20 In a recent reboot test, when "ourapp" started, it checked to see if an IP was assigned to the system and there was not, causing it to take an unexpected logic path. Our understanding though was that since we had an entry in rc.conf defining the IP then our app should have started after that IP was assigned. Is this true or is there potentially a timing issue here? =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:41:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3AF10656E3 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EBE8FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KNG004Y1MVSLX10@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <931F1DCA-C3DF-496B-93F9-035DC491208A@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Jay Hall In-reply-to: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:40:40 -0700 References: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf rules question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:41:01 -0000 On Jul 27, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jay Hall wrote: [ ... ] > If I am looking at everything correctly all traffic coming into the > system from the 82.0.0.0/8 network to port 25 on the mail server > should be blocked. > > What am I missing? Maybe they are connecting to the MSP aka 587/tcp rather than port 25? It's hard to tell from your message which mailserver lines are from machines under your control; try editting the mail headers a little less and we might be able to do better. Otherwise, maybe your firewall rules are not working, are applied to the wrong network interface, etc. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:43:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF25A106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83718FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C380A4A58C36; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:41 -0700 From: Jason To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090727214341.GJ34795@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p6 EGGMAN X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:58 -0000 Does your application startup script require NETWORKING? Just a shot in the dark from a newbie. -jgh On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:43:04PM -0700, Peter Steele thus spake: >We have an rc.conf file that looks something like this: > > > >ifconfig_nfe0="UP" > >ifconfig_nfe1="UP" > >cloned_interfaces="lagg0" > >ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1 >netmask " > >defaultrouter= > >... > >ourapp_enable="YES" > > > >In a recent reboot test, when "ourapp" started, it checked to see if an >IP was assigned to the system and there was not, causing it to take an >unexpected logic path. Our understanding though was that since we had an >entry in rc.conf defining the IP then our app should have started after >that IP was assigned. Is this true or is there potentially a timing >issue here? > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:48:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6471065674 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8558FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A043F7E821 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:25 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:48:24 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907271348.24790.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:48:26 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 13:43:04 Peter Steele wrote: > In a recent reboot test, when "ourapp" started, it checked to see if an > IP was assigned to the system and there was not, causing it to take an > unexpected logic path. Our understanding though was that since we had an > entry in rc.conf defining the IP then our app should have started after > that IP was assigned. Is this true or is there potentially a timing > issue here? It is false. See the manpage for rcorder, specifically the BEFORE and REQUIRE keywords. However, there still may be a timing issue, if ourapp requires the interface to be up (not just an IP assigned). -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:48:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951AD10656C4 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1098FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6RLmlV1069906 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RLmlo5028894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6RLmlTY028892; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:46 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090727214846.GX63413@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:48:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:48:48 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 27), Peter Steele said: > We have an rc.conf file that looks something like this: [...] > In a recent reboot test, when "ourapp" started, it checked to see if an IP > was assigned to the system and there was not, causing it to take an > unexpected logic path. Our understanding though was that since we had an > entry in rc.conf defining the IP then our app should have started after > that IP was assigned. Is this true or is there potentially a timing issue > here? rc.conf is just a script that sets a bunch of environment variables for the /etc/rc.d/* scripts to use. The order the variables are set in that file does not matter. If you want your script to run after network interfaces are set up, you'll want to add a "REQUIRE: NETWORKING" line. See the rc and rcorder manpages for more info, and take a look at the files in /etc/rc.d/ for examples. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 21:49:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2D1065675 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33188FC1C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from [10.129.40.202] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436FA6019C; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:49:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <931F1DCA-C3DF-496B-93F9-035DC491208A@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:49:28 -0500 References: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> <931F1DCA-C3DF-496B-93F9-035DC491208A@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf rules question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:49:30 -0000 On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jul 27, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Jay Hall wrote: > [ ... ] >> If I am looking at everything correctly all traffic coming into the >> system from the 82.0.0.0/8 network to port 25 on the mail server >> should be blocked. >> >> What am I missing? > > Otherwise, maybe your firewall rules are not working, are applied to > the wrong network interface, etc. Sorry about the confusion. Postfix is listening on port 25 on mail.mnea.org. Port 587 is not open. I will post some modified log files shortly. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 22:04:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE388106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935918FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1293641EE11A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:04:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:04:24 -0700 From: Jason To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090727220424.GA63239@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20090727214341.GJ34795@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p6 EGGMAN X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:04:40 -0000 Your startup script needs to require NETWORKING, though, and any other service it may need. Beyond this, you can use the rcorder command. -jgh On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 03:07:24PM -0700, Peter Steele thus spake: >Well, if I understand what you mean, then yes, our app requires >networking. But it has two logic paths: If it sees the system has an IP >assigned it goes into one mode and if it does not have an IP assigned it >goes into another mode. In the case we've encountered the app takes the >"no IP assigned" path, even though we have an IP defined in rc.conf. >We're trying to understand how this could happen and are wondering how >the options in rc.conf are processed. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jason [mailto:jhelfman@e-e.com] >Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:44 PM >To: Peter Steele >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: What order are options in rc.conf processed? > >Does your application startup script require NETWORKING? > >Just a shot in the dark from a newbie. > >-jgh > >On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:43:04PM -0700, Peter Steele thus spake: >>We have an rc.conf file that looks something like this: >> >> >> >>ifconfig_nfe0="UP" >> >>ifconfig_nfe1="UP" >> >>cloned_interfaces="lagg0" >> >>ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1 >>netmask " >> >>defaultrouter= >> >>... >> >>ourapp_enable="YES" >> >> >> >>In a recent reboot test, when "ourapp" started, it checked to see if an >>IP was assigned to the system and there was not, causing it to take an >>unexpected logic path. Our understanding though was that since we had >an >>entry in rc.conf defining the IP then our app should have started after >>that IP was assigned. Is this true or is there potentially a timing >>issue here? >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 22:05:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0941B1065698 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: from k2smtpout02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D74BC8FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: (qmail 4868 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2009 22:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO owa.webmail.maxiscale.com) (72.167.52.135) by k2smtpout02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.90) with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2009 22:02:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What order are options in rc.conf processed? Thread-Index: AcoPBAuR8AOLFX9PSxCXNhDc9wsUjAAAAJhQ References: <20090727214341.GJ34795@eggman.experts-exchange.com> From: "Peter Steele" To: "Jason" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:48 -0000 Well, if I understand what you mean, then yes, our app requires networking. But it has two logic paths: If it sees the system has an IP assigned it goes into one mode and if it does not have an IP assigned it goes into another mode. In the case we've encountered the app takes the "no IP assigned" path, even though we have an IP defined in rc.conf. We're trying to understand how this could happen and are wondering how the options in rc.conf are processed. -----Original Message----- From: Jason [mailto:jhelfman@e-e.com]=20 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:44 PM To: Peter Steele Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What order are options in rc.conf processed? Does your application startup script require NETWORKING? Just a shot in the dark from a newbie. -jgh On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:43:04PM -0700, Peter Steele thus spake: >We have an rc.conf file that looks something like this: > > > >ifconfig_nfe0=3D"UP" > >ifconfig_nfe1=3D"UP" > >cloned_interfaces=3D"lagg0" > >ifconfig_lagg0=3D"laggproto failover laggport nfe0 laggport nfe1 >netmask " > >defaultrouter=3D > >... > >ourapp_enable=3D"YES" > > > >In a recent reboot test, when "ourapp" started, it checked to see if an >IP was assigned to the system and there was not, causing it to take an >unexpected logic path. Our understanding though was that since we had an >entry in rc.conf defining the IP then our app should have started after >that IP was assigned. Is this true or is there potentially a timing >issue here? > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 22:05:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D890110656A6 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: from k2smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75D698FC1B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: (qmail 5771 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2009 22:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO owa.webmail.maxiscale.com) (72.167.52.135) by k2smtpout06-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.102) with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2009 22:05:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:10:07 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What order are options in rc.conf processed? Thread-Index: AcoPBPK7FWmb6D6xT1OZdH/jBDFR5wAASLZA References: <20090727214846.GX63413@dan.emsphone.com> From: "Peter Steele" To: Subject: RE: What order are options in rc.conf processed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:51 -0000 >rc.conf is just a script that sets a bunch of environment variables for the >/etc/rc.d/* scripts to use. The order the variables are set in that file >does not matter. If you want your script to run after network interfaces >are set up, you'll want to add a "REQUIRE: NETWORKING" line. See the >rc and rcorder manpages for more info, and take a look at the files in >/etc/rc.d/ for examples. Okay, thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for. I'll check the man page for these. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 22:07:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD6D10656BE for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A428FC21 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E699B7E821; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:07:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:07:44 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <20090727211751.GA76851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090727211751.GA76851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907271407.45243.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind 9 (Was: bsdstats) - fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:07:47 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 13:17:51 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP, running bsdstats-5.4_2, > I get this error: > > # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics > /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/task.c:1023: fatal > error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) ? 0 > : 34) == 0) failed That error from bind, > [: 1: unexpected operator Is not handled gracefully in the bsdstats script. The annoyance is that ISC Bind finds it not useful to print errno, which is what you'd need to figure out why this lock can't be destroyed. It is however a programming error in bind, or a rare case of stack corruption by the kernel. 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I have these options in /etc/rc.conf ntpd_enable="YES" ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" and here's the details of /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.pl.pool.ntp.org server 1.pl.pool.ntp.org server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org server 3.pl.pool.ntp.org driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift restrict default nopeer nomodify I used to have server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org in the ntp.conf file but today changed all entries to *.pl.pool.* At the moment my clock is about 3 minutes behind time. It has been running for a year and I do not have ntpdate enabled so I guess subsequent reboots did not correct the drifting problem. Is there anything obvious I am missing here? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all very much! Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 22:51:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D27106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout017.mac.com (asmtpout017.mac.com [17.148.16.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653738FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp017.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KNG006FFQ51NZ40@asmtp017.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <9991CE39-1B24-479E-9EDF-AFA153EE3EDE@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-reply-to: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:51:01 -0700 References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:51:15 -0000 On Jul 27, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > and here's the details of /etc/ntp.conf file: > > server 0.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 1.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 3.pl.pool.ntp.org > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > restrict default nopeer nomodify > > I used to have server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org in the ntp.conf file but > today changed all entries to *.pl.pool.* > > At the moment my clock is about 3 minutes behind time. It has been > running for a year and I do not have ntpdate enabled so I guess > subsequent reboots did not correct the drifting problem. > > Is there anything obvious I am missing here? Any advice would be > greatly appreciated! You can't readily combine a restrict statement with using random timeservers from the NTP pool; you would need to list specific servers and add blank restrict statements for each server you trust. What you've configured is likely querying the 4 servers listed for time, but not trusting their responses so your clock never find a server which it is willing to sync to. Running "ntpq -p -c rv" would be informative.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 22:53:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38261065680 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823D88FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVZ4H-0003zk-Gg; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:53:19 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVZ4G-0001nY-55; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:53:16 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6RMrFkU016923; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:53:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6RMrFVR016905; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:53:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:53:15 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-ID: <20090727225315.GA12917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.5 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:53:21 -0000 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:44:50AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I guess there is something simple that is wrong but my server is not > really keeping the correct time. I have these options in /etc/rc.conf > > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" > > and here's the details of /etc/ntp.conf file: > > server 0.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 1.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 3.pl.pool.ntp.org > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > restrict default nopeer nomodify > > I used to have server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org in the ntp.conf file but > today changed all entries to *.pl.pool.* > > At the moment my clock is about 3 minutes behind time. It has been > running for a year and I do not have ntpdate enabled so I guess > subsequent reboots did not correct the drifting problem. > > Is there anything obvious I am missing here? Any advice would be greatly > appreciated! what does "ntpq -p" give you? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 23:08:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E45106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4167E8FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (77-254-92-39.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.92.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36327B80C1 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:04:54 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1248735894; bh=ywyor+Vc1AOt/I3MPn+E3lSXUSOZWo78Fnh7WKfGCvI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=heijjjSN2im2LbAuYQuZn0H20XkgzOJEABOWgxrr4x6kzQ1THabQYusK0JpVTddMx os4M6a+5b/E8z445Yr2OF7qAanhS4AlpcTDf4VEWXvTKGYRlMPKDzyl/Wd4v5pPQOB LNW4WCvS221tlTYqUYJY8DTP6jw1oqnvQ0P1TjXc= Message-ID: <4A6E336A.10906@lcwords.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:08:26 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> <9991CE39-1B24-479E-9EDF-AFA153EE3EDE@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <9991CE39-1B24-479E-9EDF-AFA153EE3EDE@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:08:31 -0000 Chuck Swiger pisze: > You can't readily combine a restrict statement with using random > timeservers from the NTP pool; you would need to list specific servers > and add blank restrict statements for each server you trust. What > you've configured is likely querying the 4 servers listed for time, but > not trusting their responses so your clock never find a server which it > is willing to sync to. > > Running "ntpq -p -c rv" would be informative.... Well, it seems you are right :) $ ntpq -p -c rv ntpq: read: Connection refused ntpq: read: Connection refused I took it from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ntp.html [quote] If you want to deny all machines from accessing your NTP server, add the following line to /etc/ntp.conf: restrict default ignore [/quote] OK. So removing the restrictions should cause the time to be synced? Thank you for your patience and help! Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 23:26:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF861065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com (mail-ew0-f217.google.com [209.85.219.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6BE8FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so1735646ewy.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:26:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HC85yOpRJoKdQf1GIIPvXX98hgJv3zWsObz4KIq4xJg=; b=HvfWp5FYsMdb0vdV8rwUcCY3GC+F2YppWR/Fo4VOf+WGlUlFNAaq4SRJHWKrX6k6sv OwbIFooAKUlj0xUZdMYIiOdnQWdlGiDflonjZuBcgMUR8zjSsFfjJa1Sn6G0kHh0nEtU VGXBjNCby7UjfQ38634LtLxel3rhYcUsEaMvs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aZhhvZsZ7Isgg9Ju8OjOn2qQe76xvUleJTlqlvzQK/dDRCPWwWgV43z+FYjGG4jT/k R2sy+HMj4CAdAt1XD+0BQNG7WCgaF3Xq52ytG76C2rRkKXlpM+lV1n+LLRr+62YJRgC8 KqTQZPA/4NFyp8XJ0TS9N5r6A5V3SH0KbmcUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.8.209 with SMTP id 59mr1958695wer.18.1248735942136; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A67EC78.1090304@a1poweruser.com> <1248355625.17716.7.camel@localhost> <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:05:22 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mikel King Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to doc available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:26:16 -0000 2009/7/27 Mikel King : > Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in limited > space? I have a project that requires enough of running system with lighttpd > and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep the thing below > 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for whatever the smallest > I can get away with. > > Thanks, in advance. > > Cheers. > m > I'm going to try to answer your question rather than tell you you're wrong. It's possible, and not difficult. Option 1) I'm pretty sure a default install of FreeBSD covers a little less than 640 MB; have you just tried that? [chris@amnesiac]/usr% df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 421M 203M 185M 52% / [chris@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc /boot/xboxkern.0/ 112M /boot/xboxkern.0/ 112M total [chris@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc bin include lib sbin share games libdata 292M share/doc 428M total [chris@amnesiac]/usr% So, excluding /usr/share/doc, and /boot/xboxkern.0 (a leftover from when amnesiac was an xbox), my install with no ports etc is ~203-112=91MB for /, 428-292=136MB for /usr, plus /var and /tmp (both minimal if properly managed and trimmed) makes <~250 MB; way less than the 500 MB specified. You could probably even install Apache on that! If I've missed anything glaringly obvious, please correct me someone.... Option 2) Try http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 23:26:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD6B106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F6D8FC1F for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KNG003HHRSA0380@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <2C28CCF0-43D3-4A1D-B19C-4034695C7C89@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-reply-to: <4A6E336A.10906@lcwords.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:26:34 -0700 References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> <9991CE39-1B24-479E-9EDF-AFA153EE3EDE@mac.com> <4A6E336A.10906@lcwords.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:26:39 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > OK. So removing the restrictions should cause the time to be synced? > > Thank you for your patience and help! Yes, try it and see-- it's most likely to be the cause of problems. If you want to set a default restrict line, you'll want to use a setup like the following, with explicit restrict statements added for localhost and each of the remote timeservers: server ntp.pbx.org maxpoll 11 server bonehed.lcs.mit.edu maxpoll 9 server sundial.columbia.edu maxpoll 11 server time1.apple.com maxpoll 11 peer ns1.codefab.com maxpoll 9 peer ns2.codefab.com maxpoll 9 restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer restrict -6 default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery # localhost is unrestricted restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict -6 ::1 restrict ntp.pbx.org restrict bonehed.lcs.mit.edu restrict sundial.columbia.edu restrict time1.apple.com restrict ns1.codefab.com restrict ns2.codefab.com Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 23:31:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195701065673 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37518FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,278,1246831200"; d="scan'208";a="219840378" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 01:31:36 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id E4D231B0751; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:31:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:31:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: replacing GNATS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:31:39 -0000 i remember reading an interview with a fbsd maintainer where he stated that nobody's happy with the old GNATS bug tracking system, but since it works they're keeping it. why not move to bugzilla or another bug tracking system? most of them come with GNATS_2_* scripts. switching from cvs to svn (except ports) worked pretty well so why not continue in that fashion? cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 27 23:59:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBD2106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pj@smo.de) Received: from mail.ilk.de (mx-out19.ilk.de [194.121.104.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510CE8FC1C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pj@smo.de) Received: from bologna.intern.smo.de (pool55.ka.ilk.net [212.86.194.55]) by mail.ilk.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/ilk-relay) with ESMTP id n6RJGh5V019114; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:16:44 +0200 Received: from [192.168.153.208] (herdubreid.intern.smo.de [192.168.153.208]) by bologna.intern.smo.de (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6RJGfOl029375; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:16:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A6DFD49.2060708@smo.de> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:17:29 +0200 From: Philipp Ost User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20090718 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi References: <200907261936.n6QJabpZ000012@mp.cs.niu.edu> <4A6CD314.8070501@smo.de> <1248669800.36609.2.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1248669800.36609.2.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: updating to ghostscript8-8.64_2 fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:59:07 -0000 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Strange here it works... > both in amd64 as in i386 > software ghostsctip8-8.64_6 On my slightly dated installation of 8.0-Current it worked, too. It only fails on my 7.2-Stable box (both are i386). Regards, Philipp P.S.: Please CC me in your replies, I'm not subscribed to questions@ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 00:45:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCFF106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657BE8FC22 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2890683bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HhfBmjdSlWcn+X9VeRJNPGfX96HVywKQ7rBCSzKqfEI=; b=o0lC+7XWpAVeKrYvKkYCnJ9caAiD8b88uFUsuT0qZnwiCiir00mGka7mstRwFcplSV /4h7jIFaBv4jYNK7lMlIEKWoq9+HgFb/NwuDuKwdPyEidQYLck03JdmU2B3oezfpVvu/ OqoVWqqpdZ0LAEcgOwoWWHfK47n+z6Xv9HAGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XK9Y48TclFpdiggAwHR/0vfHGi03uVPtoBSKNtKFb+Fda7beJoiMTRefD/dgnw8UTE 8M/cajD9b09x+yapBPpylCyJ8Os/ME2sEgfHvpS1tuCY9M3/oXGIiIbI0f++rW9nX9go +Wq0aC27JAeKGaCkgK3qNOxZgrH6juTIU3LRQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.136 with SMTP id a8mr3009132faq.101.1248741932316; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:45:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:45:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907271745p5414c773u3ae03f22e0746953@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing GNATS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:45:34 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Alexander Best wrote: > i remember reading an interview with a fbsd maintainer where he stated that > nobody's happy with the old GNATS bug tracking system, but since it works > they're keeping it. > > why not move to bugzilla or another bug tracking system? most of them come > with GNATS_2_* scripts. > > switching from cvs to svn (except ports) worked pretty well so why not > continue in that fashion? > Hi, Alexander I don't know if this is what you were referencing about the interview, but there was a funded project announcement in June about this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2009-June/001261.html Just in case that's not what you're referring to. Cheers. (Disclaimer: No, I am not justifying GNATS over Bugzilla, cvs over svn, etc, etc. It was unclear to me if you were referring to the same 'interview', and I thought I would provide a link.) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 00:56:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E671065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [69.31.85.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007818FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from [172.16.1.8] ([68.195.158.255]) (authenticated user mikel@olivent.com) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.7.0) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8EECB41A-21AA-4023-BBF9-B1FD08A5000F@olivent.com> From: Mikel King To: utisoft@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:56:37 -0400 References: <4A67EC78.1090304@a1poweruser.com> <1248355625.17716.7.camel@localhost> <4A6A96E5.6090900@a1poweruser.com> <4A6DF24F.30008@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How to doc available? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:56:39 -0000 On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/7/27 Mikel King : >> Anyone know of a good tutorial for making a system on a USB key in >> limited >> space? I have a project that requires enough of running system with >> lighttpd >> and php5 to do some network magick. I would like to keep the thing >> below >> 512MB but if that is not feasible then I'll shoot for whatever the >> smallest >> I can get away with. >> >> Thanks, in advance. >> >> Cheers. >> m >> > > I'm going to try to answer your question rather than tell you you're > wrong. It's possible, and not difficult. > > Option 1) I'm pretty sure a default install of FreeBSD covers a little > less than 640 MB; have you just tried that? > > [chris@amnesiac]/usr% df -h / > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 421M 203M 185M 52% / > [chris@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc /boot/xboxkern.0/ > 112M /boot/xboxkern.0/ > 112M total > [chris@amnesiac]/usr% du -hc bin include lib sbin share games libdata > > > > 292M share/doc > > > > 428M total > [chris@amnesiac]/usr% > > So, excluding /usr/share/doc, and /boot/xboxkern.0 (a leftover from > when amnesiac was an xbox), my install with no ports etc is > ~203-112=91MB for /, 428-292=136MB for /usr, plus /var and /tmp (both > minimal if properly managed and trimmed) makes <~250 MB; way less than > the 500 MB specified. You could probably even install Apache on that! > > If I've missed anything glaringly obvious, please correct me > someone.... > > Option 2) Try http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/ > index.html > > Chris > Chris, Thank you for your detailed answer. Most appreciated as is the URL to nanobsd so that I can RTFM... Cheers, m! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 02:01:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DAE1065673 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stewhouston@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDB68FC21 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stewhouston@gmail.com) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so4436004qyk.3 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:01:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Ur/WfTAiI13k4YMmANkqAXecKCPPAwOq/jLMbu+bW9A=; b=KkiSCLby1ib2xcnmgSP8Nt3dHg1zQ7SUCbMOUdWHz0s1EZBniriFvk1fzyIi2LS+ID FEUuz2AgybhHKb5fUt8DqEISCZryXjxH5GcujSvjqjKc65icegnNDGOz0XvDEAkzH8VL qlJ09Aw0UHloaiYtEDbsILxB0Nvlr3+AtVCxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fkd3reHE2uZ+vBsnl6w42HPM9zVGnrSbIgJE9gUcNux8NjmvxI0fbEUO7d+6pbnY8R GDj9qcZzaxwObdhIwbEcLafD/eoJuUTz7EE4zmBsHTrVzAVKw2sYzJ1EPN/lnszA0Lqa eXm6k+m0Bc/eQGJIgtIxQbpzdpSCl25Ug943Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.96.66 with SMTP id g2mr4123735vcn.119.1248744994401; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:36:34 -0400 Message-ID: <5a1fc34c0907271836l5a38700cg252f8ea10a253938@mail.gmail.com> From: Stew Houston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mysql50-server root login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:01:52 -0000 I'm having trouble getting my MySQL server root password to "stick." After installing through ports, I run mysql_install_db which gives me two commands to set the root password through mysqladmin. I do this and all is well. I can login as root with no problems. After a reboot however, the I can't get in. Any ideas? Stew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 02:21:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EE2106566C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326698FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1839850and.13 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C9NU/DRvDa6qIDm69dDnhSF+E1t3TYcp61Fb7yeFEnw=; b=uYPjWArg4sSx2Z4y8ivhq3Vtudx6oG5z48Rl/FHLMg/VbLFQMUPXYFLYwppdz+jPK/ g/LJ0+3qAb/TKvKhOVA2wk0hkl2+BkPmyAHmffy2iZq4TvGwx/UleSh2EwxIdU5300EH JlHti3fCLkSYshU0t0K9I1znIGzsIsDZbrBv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qAEoiE1gZcMGXK6e4A2jtLR9fpKEXj7+Ru5g9A7KP/FAomRus4CeJm5LRiu5kHrEgO rezQXpcV6MUlKZwsFgH694hcsF4jdam0YMP8ZIOT+rcn4viVeb8ACp3wAgv6KlU0FbkP XGQNz93IhIR8RrpJl5FYfrBa8+v1T1a2UFZlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.125.15 with SMTP id x15mr9229087anc.73.1248747664575; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5a1fc34c0907271836l5a38700cg252f8ea10a253938@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a1fc34c0907271836l5a38700cg252f8ea10a253938@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:21:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Stew Houston Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql50-server root login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:21:05 -0000 After running mysql_install_db, the mysql files are owned by root:wheel instead of mysql:mysql I've noticed that is a missing step in the docs. # mysql_install_db # chown -R mysql:mysql /var/db/mysql # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql start How it sticks long enough until reboot sounds like a memory cache, which is flushed of course at reboot. --TJ On 7/27/09, Stew Houston wrote: > I'm having trouble getting my MySQL server root password to "stick." After > installing through ports, I run mysql_install_db which gives me two commands > to set the root password through mysqladmin. I do this and all is well. I > can login as root with no problems. After a reboot however, the I can't get > in. Any ideas? > > Stew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 02:30:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0FB1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4FC8FC19 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8C97E818; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:04 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:30:02 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <5a1fc34c0907271836l5a38700cg252f8ea10a253938@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907271830.03006.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Tim Judd , Stew Houston Subject: Re: mysql50-server root login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:30:05 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 18:21:04 Tim Judd wrote: > After running mysql_install_db, the mysql files are owned by > root:wheel instead of mysql:mysql > > I've noticed that is a missing step in the docs. > # mysql_install_db > # chown -R mysql:mysql /var/db/mysql Or...you can just not do this at all. > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql start Will create the auth tables, if they don't exist, with the correct ownerships: mysql_prestart() { if [ ! -d "${mysql_dbdir}/mysql/." ]; then mysql_create_auth_tables || return 1 fi -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 02:45:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA48106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0518FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB3B345598F; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:37:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39958-10; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-103-225-212.eastlink.ca [208.103.225.212]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BE949345592D; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:37:06 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:37:06 +0000 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Fbsd1 , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> References: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: bsdstats not working in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:45:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm running it on 7-STABLE servers without any problem ... but notice that others responded that it appears you are on PC-BSD vs FreeBSD? As late as this answer is, are you still having an issue with it on your machine? - --On Sunday, March 01, 2009 19:20:21 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: > bsdstats is now in the base system. > Have bsdstats_enable="YES" is rc.conf > Worked this way in 7.0. > What am I missing here??? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpuZFIACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvPpMwCfUaNbQJojcXS3Ph5DnesNVH0H fTMAniGG92QBY+3aELFu+xQZTUMVgiva =eaWl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 02:50:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50230106566C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D3E8FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA193455945; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:33:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39537-06; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-103-225-212.eastlink.ca [208.103.225.212]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5C96D345592D; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:33:51 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:33:34 +0000 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:50:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Are you still seeing the error ... ? I just checked everything on server, and it appears to be processing fine ... - --On Monday, July 27, 2009 21:43:42 +0100 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Connecting to bsdstats.org I get this error: > > Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace() in > /usr/local/www/bsdstats.org/www/bsdstats/sbin/uri.php on line 142 > > Is there a problem with this site? > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpuY44ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNOrgCgnT7DyPkETX/839deAN4KdiQm CckAn3IcvZ10sJinKNa/LqGHcWYY/gL+ =B2dp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 02:50:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E991065670; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CFF8FC0A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5391A3455996; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:35:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40123-01; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-103-225-212.eastlink.ca [208.103.225.212]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3C7DB3455991; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:35:18 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:35:17 +0000 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Mel Flynn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <45184C2B17C02813336AB862@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <200907271407.45243.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <20090727211751.GA76851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <200907271407.45243.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind 9 (Was: bsdstats) - fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:50:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, July 27, 2009 14:07:44 -0800 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Monday 27 July 2009 13:17:51 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP, running bsdstats-5.4_2, >> I get this error: >> >> # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics >> /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/task.c:1023: fatal >> error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) ? 0 >> : 34) == 0) failed > > That error from bind, > >> [: 1: unexpected operator > > Is not handled gracefully in the bsdstats script. Is there something I can do to improve the script to handle it better? - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpuY+UACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvOquwCdGpyNjkbx2e/jt9TB48RX6JrD mJEAoL+l0a5UI3xCX/2/F+MJB5hPgIR/ =uH7U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 03:15:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A047106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from python@rgbaz.eu) Received: from jasper.secsrv.net (jasper.secsrv.net [66.98.138.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30CD8FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from python@rgbaz.eu) Received: from [79.151.230.232] (helo=[192.168.1.34]) by jasper.secsrv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MVT44-0000OC-6F; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:28:40 -0400 Message-Id: <278C193A-B4D5-456D-8C22-AC0A89D4A486@rgbaz.eu> From: PythonAB To: son goku In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:28:20 +0200 References: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> <4A6D8F5D.7020600@unsane.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jasper.secsrv.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rgbaz.eu X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen , Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:15:48 -0000 On 27 jul 2009, at 14:42, son goku wrote: > Thanks guys for the prompt answers!!! > It seems weird that code that uses dtrace must be opened. I mean every > serious production level application must have some dtrace-like > mechanism > inside to collect online information when needed. It is a shame that > because > of licensing issues, I will have to roll-my-own and re-invent the > wheel all > over again, probably with cruder and implementation that is more > flawed > compared to dtrace. > Why don't you write it and release it under a BSD license? gr Arno From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 03:37:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F52106566C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940858FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDF67E818 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:37:27 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:37:26 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <20090727211751.GA76851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <200907271407.45243.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <45184C2B17C02813336AB862@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <45184C2B17C02813336AB862@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907271937.26660.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: Bind 9 (Was: bsdstats) - fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:37:29 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 18:35:17 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > --On Monday, July 27, 2009 14:07:44 -0800 Mel Flynn > > wrote: > > On Monday 27 July 2009 13:17:51 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP, running bsdstats-5.4_2, > >> I get this error: > >> > >> # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics > >> /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/task.c:1023: fatal > >> error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) ? > >> 0 > >> > >> : 34) == 0) failed > > > > That error from bind, > > > >> [: 1: unexpected operator > > > > Is not handled gracefully in the bsdstats script. > > Is there something I can do to improve the script to handle it better? Well, if OP can provide sh -x /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics output, it's easier to see which variable is empty as a result of a resolver error. Then fix the test expression and either exit or use a retry_x_times mechanism. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 04:24:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C821065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632658FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so40080fxm.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:23:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y5B9dZtIXjpPMBnaS/CSfqedTv6DkeOCirq+MuSU9f0=; b=Cu8WaU/YpZLHp2P/aE+l6CGg9RMfRfiNceiAqyw5alHZ6qk/chGS68238Noz3XQKbD ZAzPQc65fJBLi9jwRYoN9jbX7OoAa+hZxcGyQt+4fBcU/fpKmK5p/mTaN+VX8eg8CfVv PtPO2uZyB6T+VcAiJqZfFdbD1oBA5QlEHJ+hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FQNlvy3eJN4X3pDi8FWA3h/lTP8Q0JTnarycrh/15VLVXlg89codJBi2qChmk/5h2i cb8lYnuvYu2VFr/E3lm4ybXLQ7b+VLXivAr/KUVHJXHURgDES9gQH/+pF5NLLrjKgvdH yAAjqyC8QB23WUEaIdhRBDBbUsrsC5zkRQXcw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.16 with SMTP id r16mr3056053fao.24.1248755039308; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:23:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907272123t17603effp65cd3eff56dfc541@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "Marc G. Fournier" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:24:01 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Are you still seeing the error ... ? =A0I just checked everything on serv= er, and > it appears to be processing fine ... > Marc, The site appears responsive now. I too was seeing errors. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 04:36:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED92106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630AC8FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (maia-1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898B4345594D; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:36:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60134-09; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-103-225-212.eastlink.ca [208.103.225.212]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5238F34558CA; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:36:44 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:36:43 +0000 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Glen Barber , "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4ad871310907272123t17603effp65cd3eff56dfc541@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> <4ad871310907272123t17603effp65cd3eff56dfc541@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:36:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I did an upgrade to PHP and Apache, so suspect this was just befor I restart=20 Apache with the new PHP :( Glad I don't have to do that often ... - --On Tuesday, July 28, 2009 00:23:59 -0400 Glen Barber=20 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> Are you still seeing the error ... ? =C2=A0I just checked everything on = server, >> and it appears to be processing fine ... >> > > Marc, > > The site appears responsive now. I too was seeing errors. > > > -- > Glen Barber - --=20 Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpugFsACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMPJgCgjr91HnpOaxCOtMXuWeS7wMPJ sfIAn1sok4Hp5TJSK/Q+iGEbUk1BS4fJ =3DUtLS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 04:42:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4FB106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBB88FC1C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2947040bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:42:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=9C3hOLw0SQTzB13J1e88muVBH87+8f/BjnmaTy79uxQ=; b=bJlhob2l7fIRosZBuoNDBkiI0sj6k5oiyxDR+wgNcNaKE98cFBowUEjROp+E3X6q92 GbmKURzeIgvgvvuhMbyHXZC2IaHOkP49308oupD1xNWoLRt2Fw0qVliZq68/yKgDFVvJ x/EFDXCwo2We+3xilMjVWQMZA3vRJ3el8GRoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=Mn8YBdnMQX0/KufNH9o2ZGgcFbT3IrHw2LXsGaTpzU93yiciiv/BxOpC4iq4/awfTA qixiDxs3LOQVxPRQo9bR4Y27iDX6nh8Kw4//6mqLuvixEmdAiYvsLGd8PrM28bpXAraB 2MeZpLOI13bKxk5qyaXF1yEQWZCdvEJOHCp2w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.119.76 with SMTP id y12mr3908450bkq.114.1248756168766; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:42:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0DDF77FD-C2E7-4DD0-9E05-1117322D0D58@identry.com> References: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> <0DDF77FD-C2E7-4DD0-9E05-1117322D0D58@identry.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:42:48 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ca96c748a8113f4 Message-ID: <8250ac3f0907272142o7f3e7955q92ac1e62049aeb5d@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= To: John Almberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn+ssh server only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:42:51 -0000 So the only one you had marked was the svnserve-wrapper ? in Make config On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, John Almberg wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Kalle M=F8ller wrote: > > Hi >> >> I'm trying to make a ssh+svn server only (apache is installed, but that = is >> for view.vc) >> > > For what its worth, I just built a new svn server (to replace my old > apache-based svn server that should have been replaced years ago, but it > kept on doing the job). > > This time, I used a very simple set up, using svnserve without any > authentication. I use pf to limit access to the small number of IP addres= ses > that I use. This setup is super-simple, fast, and secure enough for my > needs. > > -- John_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=F8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 04:54:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A968D1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4038FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70282 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jul 2009 04:54:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248756891; bh=9/NBufaPY4aPzZxQM5PGNNvzeavJGIqyyOoI5nnLagY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MaDIgmk+lrTh2faotBF+si/bA5Wcl8XuP3dXDUH68lg9n6PNXV+jnf11XpqMtcLM+z4NFj57Ui42G/E1XjL1tfDS5I29P+lzWuuDjFBxuqUxvX3Ui5lT+kRVkfhZGok3/Mx1xKOWbd6tQT0ZoyKQ2G6xJLnm0Zue+2kSzA2578I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rURnHPJWtCCfdP+4SOfs/rvBFMzFsqduCPR68s0uiuF7NmDhuh5eZFS2jvNtz2sMeGKumjFhMWXG+UaSVRbqpvYOmrh7dxe2dWFVENm9WA7g1eCWgFJfMeD5BfpFMJm+LdConQIrlXLIThZwEmf79oLAMxZIzXIh1pPN5kFx74g=; Message-ID: <631612.70113.qm@web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cXU6aLMVM1lW67QCqvvS_mpIo2QNJmFmmli9z9l1HulbTDlPBmygmu9llwGNSdikPLrxRiWN1wU5Al519JNU_O3gJdrpghyqwnzQ1Gh0VpWQnxjTcPmJukp1fkgrX8pabPPC3WMnPZ2e5HovLoP89QGxZOCpcfeB9xK44egmdm8COMabdal2GyCyTZsBVlEJ.wp6m5ao7h5onSGoVTOBIk6ZSZWUCRbNqsxozHVDRbHzqWGDVWkI62.b2Dd_QqjTlOhllCFpuzNNRaVrm_EUmjxLmagzDejjh_qyd0yXj_X9cwrJFK70WRXM0oAt0MPJDX_CVLPiuclfoihZvGI- Received: from [220.255.7.138] by web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:54:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mel Flynn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:54:52 -0000 --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Mel Flynn wrote: > From: Mel Flynn > Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 1:25 AM > On Monday 27 July 2009 05:45:13 Unga > wrote: >=20 > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > I need to remove some unwanted symlinks on > /dev using > > > > > > a C program. > > > > > > > The "struct dirent" only shows the symlink > name, how > > > > > > do I find what that > > > > > > > symlink points to for verification purpose? > > > > > > By using the readlink(2) system call. > > > > But readlink(2) fails with errno set to 2. Can > readlink(2) use with dev > > nodes? >=20 > Works for me. errno 2 is ENOENT ("No such file or > directory"). I would inspect=20 > if your request path points to the right location. >=20 > % ./rl /dev/stderr > /dev/stderr =3D> fd/2 >=20 > % cat rl.c > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include >=20 > #include >=20 > int main(int argc, char **argv) > { > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 char path[MAXPATHLEN], > buf[MAXPATHLEN+1]; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ssize_t res; >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 if( argc !=3D 2 ) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > exit(67); >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (void)strlcpy(path, argv[1], > sizeof(path)); > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 res =3D readlink(path, buf, > sizeof(buf)); > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 if( res < 0 ) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > err(EXIT_FAILURE, "readlink()"); > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 buf[MAXPATHLEN] =3D '\0'; > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 printf("%s =3D> %s\n", path, > buf); >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 return (0); > } >=20 Thanks everybody for valuable replies. In fact, I also used readlink(2) but= fed the symlink path directly from dirent, which was partial, readlink(2) = requires full path. Unga=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 05:30:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DE2106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EDE8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195237E818 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:30:03 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:30:01 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <631612.70113.qm@web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <631612.70113.qm@web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907272130.02195.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: How to find what symlink points to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:30:04 -0000 On Monday 27 July 2009 20:54:51 Unga wrote: > Thanks everybody for valuable replies. In fact, I also used readlink(2) but > fed the symlink path directly from dirent, which was partial, readlink(2) > requires full path. Nope it doesn't. It's the classical "opendir does not chdir" problem. readlink(2) requires a path that resolves from the current working directory of the program. If you opendir(3) /dev and are in /, then dirent->d_name is not valid for your cwd. Either you have to chdir or prepend the path given to opendir to dirent->d_name. % ./rl /dev/stdout stdout => fd/1 See the diff on previous rl.c below. -- Mel --- rl.c.orig 2009-07-27 09:19:58.000000000 -0800 +++ rl.c 2009-07-27 21:25:48.000000000 -0800 @@ -9,13 +9,31 @@ int main(int argc, char **argv) { - char path[MAXPATHLEN], buf[MAXPATHLEN+1]; + char path[MAXPATHLEN], buf[MAXPATHLEN+1], *ptr; ssize_t res; if( argc != 2 ) exit(67); (void)strlcpy(path, argv[1], sizeof(path)); + ptr = strrchr(path, '/'); + if( ptr != NULL ) + { + char *tmp = ptr + 1; + + if( ptr == path ) + { + if( strlen(path) == 1 ) + errx(67, "/ can never be a symlink"); + chdir("/"); + } + else + { + *ptr = '\0'; + (void)chdir(path); + } + (void)strlcpy(path, tmp, sizeof(path)); + } res = readlink(path, buf, sizeof(buf)); if( res < 0 ) err(EXIT_FAILURE, "readlink()"); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 06:52:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554751065670 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryu.planka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9828A8FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryu.planka@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so2982267bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:52:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PFuLUwBfx8huovK39QqMLUGDoKyCNIS7cU1g9RAMmjo=; b=WQfs3hFoRCtWJ5zTe1DYr+CTGnQZobBIfNhhcaHEvh9D6mlAfULUhgyQVeu489wnRb euQoS2gPEckeB5UybeDgPgmDwJX79avi6SPl2l1KWpgz2bU9/3CxyVOt1TXAnJ5cwD7r L0WFW4E/lZRXnCIMBXZIncglAjuwRLsSyL0GA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x7K3o2Q4rBhdMkf/34+0dV7pTkzqaI3ZpuSAn/OnLiIHKe8W5yOMyon9f/eAGRS/kQ +O8sFqvL3++UOxL1nedvpSJ5G1iShl+IH7ahseMUFXbbe1hwjS3IhZaTPvArh7itxEx3 b9yorYu3C8tAB4PSrmPov0wCyHSbKosVuF/y4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.112.11 with SMTP id u11mr3567341bkp.134.1248763956503; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:52:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090727110952.GA60932@osiris.chen.org.nz> <4A6D8F5D.7020600@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:52:36 +0300 Message-ID: From: son goku To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: source code licensing questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:52:38 -0000 Thank you all for your detailed answers. Indeed, sounds like we will need some lawyer advice... My gut feeling is that we are going with the BSD license with day one. I am relatively new to open source myself (Been developing most of my work on closed source UNIX systems and windows), but I hope to catch up very soon. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk < m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:42 AM, son goku wrote: > >> Thanks guys for the prompt answers!!! >> It seems weird that code that uses dtrace must be opened. I mean every >> serious production level application must have some dtrace-like mechanis= m >> inside to collect online information when needed. It is a shame that >> because >> of licensing issues, I will have to roll-my-own and re-invent the wheel >> all >> over again, probably with cruder and implementation that is more flawed >> compared to dtrace. >> >> I wonder what all the proprietary modules for Solaris (VxVM jumps to >> mind...) or BSD do? Or there are no such modules anymore... >> >> > > > > http://www.sun.com/cddl/ > > ----------------------------- > http://www.sun.com/cddl/cddl.html > > > - > > *1.3. =93Covered Software=94* means (a) the Original Software, or (b) > Modifications, or (c) the combination of files containing Original Sof= tware > with files containing Modifications, in each case including portions > thereof. > > > > - > > *1.6. =93Larger Work=94* means a work which combines Covered Software = or > portions thereof with code not governed by the terms of this License. > - > > > - > > *3.6. Larger Works.* > > You may create a Larger Work by combining Covered Software with other > code not governed by the terms of this License and distribute the Larg= er > Work as a single product. In such a case, You must make sure the > requirements of this License are fulfilled for the Covered Software. > > -------------------------- > > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.php > http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/cddllicense.txt > http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/ > http://www.opensolaris.com/licensing/opensolaris_license/ > http://www.netbeans.org/cddl.html > http://www.openmediacommons.org/CDDL_License.html > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html > Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL), version 1.0 > > This is a free software license. It has a copyleft with a scope that's > similar to the one in the Mozilla Public License, which makes it > incompatible with the GNU GPL . Thi= s > means a module covered by the GPL and a module covered by the CDDL cannot > legally be linked together. We urge you not to use the CDDL for this reas= on. > > Also unfortunate in the CDDL is its use of the term =93intellectual prope= rty > =94. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License > http://soundadvice.id.au/blog/2005/02/04/#cddl > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/licensing_faq/ > > *If I use code licensed under the CDDL in my proprietary product, will I > have to share my source code?* > > Yes, for any source files that are licensed under the CDDL and any > modifications you make. However, you don't need to share the source for y= our > proprietary source files. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > http://lwn.net/Articles/114839/ > > > > I am NOT a lawyer , therefore my opinions does NOT have any legal value . > > In short , CDDL does NOT require to disclose your OWN proprietary sources= , > BUT ONLY requires to explicitly supply CDDL licensed parts with any chang= es > applied to them with respect to CDDL license . > > If you are a commercial entity my suggestion would be to seek legal advis= e > from a lawyer with expertise on software licenses and copyrights . > > > Thank you very much . > > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 08:17:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F26106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C168FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n6S8H2W5010212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:17:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:17:02 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090728081702.GD25904@obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:17:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:17:06 -0000 Hi all Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not working. Thanks a lot. Regards -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Tlphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mar 28 jul 2009 10:15:54 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 08:27:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F43E106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D25D8FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E69184A95A6; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6S8R4mg002490; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:27:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:27:04 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20090728082704.GB2392@current.Sisis.de> References: <20090728081702.GD25904@obspm.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090728081702.GD25904@obspm.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:27:02 -0000 El da Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribi: > Hi all > > Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? > If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not > working. Hello Albert, The place to look (and make entries) is here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detail&laptop=12868 HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 08:32:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A2F106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669F8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3022580bwz.43 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:32:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MZtfQ0lIjNIQD0ZXdCH9g9N5T6R9yK69sasmHRzk6k8=; b=MIMrItb78QKGj6edRBQfaCqoVI9AXE6N8GinDz8zLnV15iEjR/T90BdPLH7hwvlxGK 3j8rAWOuCOQOJVyyacpFPwf5Z9l9WzzymUi16H/pQMkZJ/xgDnXREZglhhZalpMGSFCX vhrN4aKOZMypxc4OI4WsgJudJCJiOCh8xaXyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x8y6qeusrWSO41G8i7k5ayv5ZRadIYpOusiUTxPIK+jIorJPm3SSG+R5wgwsh2XKXk QZzq5c7TQdJpyUrFOX3jFG1onAOcKTJOUULFW8od+sOgV3eX6e7q37RpWUFfVWBAq0G+ avlsMOdxKqVevbIgQl6JylvwfMVOiDbmzOtss= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.189.8 with SMTP id r8mr3756085mup.11.1248769974300; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:32:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: close users in jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:32:56 -0000 hi all, I am going to do some research in area of creating server in educational sphere, for example for some computer course at an university. At this server, there would be a > lot < of users (in tens, even hundreds) and I am also going to write some kind of shell script, which all of this does automatically. (something like pw but it makes as lot of accounts as I want to). At this configuration, it is inevitable to secure some tries of hacking and security attacks on the main system. I would like to get all users into jail (jail in computer :D) I know, if server has good security policy, I shouldn't be afraid, but in the end of course, I can delete all of that stuff very easily. It is a good idea? Some pros / cons ? I would like to get into jail also essential services, apache, ftp, quotas. The biggest "why" I want to do this that way is a fact there are some other important services at the main server. thank you in advance for response From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 08:46:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E424106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3408FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n6S8kd0l021996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:46:40 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:46:39 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20090728084639.GE25904@obspm.fr> References: <20090728081702.GD25904@obspm.fr> <20090728082704.GB2392@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090728082704.GB2392@current.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:46:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:46:42 -0000 Le 28/07/2009 10:27:04+0200, Matthias Apitz a crit > El da Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribi: > > > Hi all > > > > Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? > > If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not > > working. > > Hello Albert, > > The place to look (and make entries) is here: > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ > > I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 > or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detail&laptop=12868 > Thanks for the tips. Another question : I've access (but I can't install anything) a E4200 computer. How can I check what's is supported by FreeBSD ? www.freesbie.org don't answer (maybe the project is stop). Is they are another livecd or something like that ? Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Tlphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 Heure local/Local time: Mar 28 jul 2009 10:44:33 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 09:07:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27971065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781B48FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,282,1246831200"; d="scan'208";a="219870436" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 11:07:25 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id C56441B0751; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:07:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:07:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Glen Barber Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4ad871310907271745p5414c773u3ae03f22e0746953@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing GNATS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:07:28 -0000 thanks for the link. although this wasn't the interview i was referring to the announcement is great news. i don't quite understand though why there's the need to create a completely new bug tracking system. is this due to technical issues or rather a matter of not wanting to use what all the others are using? or to be more precise: a matter of pride. quite often i've been thinking: dealing with freebsd in general could be so much easier if somebody just said: "alright! this is the way to go!" a lot of problems aren't really taken take of, but people talk about it for ages not wanting to let go of ancient software e.g. the freebsd mailman archive is a mess basically. searching within it either returns useless results or doesn't work at all. plus the index leaves out certain months or even years. there are so many good ways of having a clean modern mailing list archive interface. or another example: patches which haven't been tested enough to make it into HEAD. they end up either on somebody's personal site in freebsd.org/~username or what's even worse end up in perforce which is a nasty piece of software imo. or take bug reports in general. everybody's concentrating on adding new features to HEAD or participates in endless discussions about some unimportant technical stuff where basically everybody tries to show off their tech knowledge. there are PR reports with patches included which solve critical and sometimes ancient bugs, but nobody's taking care of them. i know people who've been trying to use freebsd since 4.X, but were unable due to a panic which has been analysed and patched. the patch however never made it into the repository, because nobody seems to care. it's no big secret that submitting bug reports is basically a waste of time. if you have a patch for a problem and want to get it committed into HEAD or STABLE you have to get in contact with somebody who has write access to svn. just my 2 cents. ;) alex Glen Barber schrieb am 2009-07-28: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Alexander > Best wrote: > > i remember reading an interview with a fbsd maintainer where he > > stated that > > nobody's happy with the old GNATS bug tracking system, but since it > > works > > they're keeping it. > > why not move to bugzilla or another bug tracking system? most of > > them come > > with GNATS_2_* scripts. > > switching from cvs to svn (except ports) worked pretty well so why > > not > > continue in that fashion? > Hi, Alexander > I don't know if this is what you were referencing about the > interview, > but there was a funded project announcement in June about this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2009-June/001261.html > Just in case that's not what you're referring to. > Cheers. > (Disclaimer: No, I am not justifying GNATS over Bugzilla, cvs over > svn, etc, etc. It was unclear to me if you were referring to the > same > 'interview', and I thought I would provide a link.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 09:58:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12654106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35FC8FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVjRg-00074w-Jn; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:58:11 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVjRf-00031t-CZ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:58:07 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6S9w7rB002434; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:58:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6S9w7I8002433; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:58:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:58:07 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20090728095806.GA2426@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.5 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:58:13 -0000 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:33:34AM +0000, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Are you still seeing the error ... ? I just checked everything on server, and > it appears to be processing fine ... yes, seems ok many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 10:16:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F5B106567B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:16:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1FC8FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVjjJ-0000PG-TM; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:16:29 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVjjI-0003FG-5X; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:16:21 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6SAGJYa004179; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:16:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6SAGJsN004178; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:16:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:16:19 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20090728101619.GA4035@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090727211751.GA76851@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <200907271407.45243.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <45184C2B17C02813336AB862@ganymede.hub.org> <200907271937.26660.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200907271937.26660.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind 9 (Was: bsdstats) - fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:16:30 -0000 On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 07:37:26PM -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Monday 27 July 2009 18:35:17 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > --On Monday, July 27, 2009 14:07:44 -0800 Mel Flynn > > > > wrote: > > > On Monday 27 July 2009 13:17:51 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > >> On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP, running bsdstats-5.4_2, > > >> I get this error: > > >> > > >> # /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics > > >> /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/task.c:1023: fatal > > >> error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) ? > > >> 0 > > >> > > >> : 34) == 0) failed > > > > > > That error from bind, > > > > > >> [: 1: unexpected operator > > > > > > Is not handled gracefully in the bsdstats script. > > > > Is there something I can do to improve the script to handle it better? > > Well, if OP can provide sh -x /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics > output, it's easier to see which variable is empty as a result of a resolver > error. Then fix the test expression and either exit or use a retry_x_times > mechanism. # script zzz sh -x /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay Script started on Tue Jul 28 11:14:53 2009 + [ -r /etc/defaults/periodic.conf ] + . /etc/defaults/periodic.conf + periodic_conf_files='/etc/periodic.conf /etc/periodic.conf.local' + local_periodic=/usr/local/etc/periodic + daily_output=root + daily_show_success=YES + daily_show_info=YES + daily_show_badconfig=NO + daily_clean_disks_enable=NO + daily_clean_disks_files='[#,]* .#* a.out *.core *.CKP .emacs_[0-9]*' + daily_clean_disks_days=3 + daily_clean_disks_verbose=YES + daily_clean_tmps_enable=NO + daily_clean_tmps_dirs=/tmp + daily_clean_tmps_days=3 + daily_clean_tmps_ignore='.X*-lock .X11-unix .ICE-unix .font-unix .XIM-unix' + daily_clean_tmps_ignore='.X*-lock .X11-unix .ICE-unix .font-unix .XIM-unix quota.user quota.group' + daily_clean_tmps_verbose=YES + daily_clean_preserve_enable=YES + daily_clean_preserve_days=7 + daily_clean_preserve_verbose=YES + daily_clean_msgs_enable=YES + daily_clean_msgs_days='' + daily_clean_rwho_enable=YES + daily_clean_rwho_days=7 + daily_clean_rwho_verbose=YES + daily_clean_hoststat_enable=YES + daily_backup_passwd_enable=YES + daily_backup_aliases_enable=YES + daily_calendar_enable=NO + daily_accounting_enable=YES + daily_accounting_compress=NO + daily_accounting_flags=-q + daily_accounting_save=3 + daily_news_expire_enable=YES + daily_status_disks_enable=YES + daily_status_disks_df_flags='-l -h' + daily_status_zfs_enable=NO + daily_status_ata_raid_enable=NO + daily_status_gmirror_enable=NO + daily_status_graid3_enable=NO + daily_status_gstripe_enable=NO + daily_status_gconcat_enable=NO + daily_status_network_enable=YES + daily_status_network_usedns=YES + daily_status_rwho_enable=YES + daily_status_mailq_enable=YES + daily_status_mailq_shorten=NO + daily_status_include_submit_mailq=YES + daily_status_security_enable=YES + daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=YES + daily_status_mail_rejects_logs=3 + daily_status_mail_rejects_shorten=NO + daily_status_named_enable=YES + daily_status_named_usedns=YES + daily_status_ntpd_enable=NO + daily_queuerun_enable=YES + daily_submit_queuerun=YES + daily_local=/etc/daily.local + daily_status_security_inline=NO + daily_status_security_output=root + daily_status_security_noamd=NO + daily_status_security_logdir=/var/log + daily_status_security_diff_flags='-b -u' + daily_status_security_chksetuid_enable=YES + daily_status_security_chkmounts_enable=YES + daily_status_security_chkuid0_enable=YES + daily_status_security_passwdless_enable=YES + daily_status_security_logincheck_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfwdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_pfdenied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipfwlimit_enable=YES + daily_status_security_ipf6denied_enable=YES + daily_status_security_kernelmsg_enable=YES + daily_status_security_loginfail_enable=YES + daily_status_security_tcpwrap_enable=YES + weekly_output=root + weekly_show_success=YES + weekly_show_info=YES + weekly_show_badconfig=NO + weekly_locate_enable=YES + weekly_whatis_enable=YES + weekly_catman_enable=NO + weekly_noid_enable=NO + weekly_noid_dirs=/ + weekly_status_pkg_enable=NO + pkg_version=pkg_version + pkg_version_index=/usr/ports/INDEX-8 + weekly_local=/etc/weekly.local + monthly_output=root + monthly_show_success=YES + monthly_show_info=YES + monthly_show_badconfig=NO + monthly_accounting_enable=YES + monthly_local=/etc/monthly.local + [ -z '' ] + source_periodic_confs_defined=yes + source_periodic_confs + local i sourced_files + sourced_files=:/etc/periodic.conf: + [ -r /etc/periodic.conf ] + . /etc/periodic.conf + monthly_statistics_enable=YES + monthly_statistics_report_devices=YES + monthly_statistics_report_ports=YES + sourced_files=:/etc/periodic.conf::/etc/periodic.conf.local: + [ -r /etc/periodic.conf.local ] + periodic_conf=/etc/periodic.conf + umask + oldmask=0022 + umask 066 + version=5.4 + checkin_server=rpt.bsdstats.org + bsdstats_log=/var/log/bsdstats + id_token_file=/var/db/bsdstats + PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin + export PATH + unset HTTP_USER_AGENT + IFS=' ' + check_dns + dig+ grep UP bsdstats.org txt + grep TXT + wc -l /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/timer.c:906: fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(((pthread_mutex_destroy(((&manager->lock))) == 0) ? 0 : 34) == 0) failed + [ ' 1' 'Abort trap (core dumped)' = 0 ] [: 1: unexpected operator + /usr/bin/uname -r + REL=8.0-BETA1 + /usr/bin/uname -m + ARCH=ia64 + /usr/bin/uname -s + OS=FreeBSD + get_id_token + [ -f /var/db/bsdstats ] + wc -l + [ ' 3' -lt 3 ] + [ ! -f /var/db/bsdstats -o ! -s /var/db/bsdstats ] + . /var/db/bsdstats + KEY=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780 + TOKEN=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr/kbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY= + VERSION=5.4 + uri_escape c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780 + echo c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780 + sed -e ' s/%/%25/g s/;/%3b/g s,/,%2f,g s/?/%3f/g s/:/%3a/g s/@/%40/g s/&/%26/g s/=/%3d/g s/+/%2b/g s/\$/%24/g s/,/%2c/g s/ /%20/g ' + KEY=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780 + uri_escape WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr/kbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY= + echo WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr/kbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY= + sed -e ' s/%/%25/g s/;/%3b/g s,/,%2f,g s/?/%3f/g s/:/%3a/g s/@/%40/g s/&/%26/g s/=/%3d/g s/+/%2b/g s/\$/%24/g s/,/%2c/g s/ /%20/g ' + TOKEN=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d + test X-nodelay = X-nodelay + enable_token + do_fetch 'enable_token.php?key=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&token=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780' + url='http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/enable_token.php?key=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&token=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780' + uname + local IFS + IFS='= ' + read var val + /usr/bin/fetch -q -o - 'http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/enable_token.php?key=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&token=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780' + date + echo '[Tue 28 Jul 2009 11:14:53 BST] Error with fetch to server' + exit + report_system + do_fetch 'report_system.php?token=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&key=c30c1b0240631fecb044e+ d2e15e68780&rel=8.0-BETA1&arch=ia64&opsys=FreeBSD' local+ IFSurl='http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/report_system.php?token=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFK PXpjWY%3d&key=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780&rel=8.0-BETA1&arch=ia64&opsys=FreeBSD' + + IFS='= ' uname+ read var val + /usr/bin/fetch -q -o - 'http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/report_system.php?token=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&key=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780&rel=8.0-BETA1&arch=ia64&opsys=FreeBSD' + [ FAIL = OK ] + date + echo '[Tue 28 Jul 2009 11:14:53 BST] System report failed, exiting' + exit + echo 'Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org' Posting monthly OS statistics to rpt.bsdstats.org + [ X-nodelay != X-nodelay ] + disable_token + do_fetch+ 'disable_token.php?key=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&token=c30c1b0240631fecb044elocald2e15e68780' IFS+ url='http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/disable_token.php?key=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPX+ pjWY%3d&token=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780' IFS='= ' + + unameread var val + /usr/bin/fetch -q -o - 'http://rpt.bsdstats.org/scripts/disable_token.php?key=WZEW6M7lnx6ZDNVbzJr%2fkbehj9O4JKERLTRFKPXpjWY%3d&token=c30c1b0240631fecb044ed2e15e68780' + date + echo '[Tue 28 Jul 2009 11:14:54 BST] Error with fetch to server' + exit + umask 0022 + exit Script done on Tue Jul 28 11:14:54 2009 many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 10:21:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AD7106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405B78FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVjoT-000338-G9; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:21:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVjoR-0000Oc-OC; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:21:40 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6SALdL8004202; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:21:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6SALdir004201; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:21:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:21:39 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090728102139.GA4194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090727204342.GA86273@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <1F9FD2FB602BA0A168333951@ganymede.hub.org> <20090728095806.GA2426@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090728095806.GA2426@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: bsdstats.org - fatal error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:21:46 -0000 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:58:07AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:33:34AM +0000, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Are you still seeing the error ... ? I just checked everything on server, and > > it appears to be processing fine ... > > yes, seems ok however, the Ports Stats link seems to be wrong, it takes to the CPU stats. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 10:31:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAE7106566C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F208FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (ppp-94-69-71-158.home.otenet.gr [94.69.71.158]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n6SAUwZI008995; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:30:58 +0300 Message-ID: <4A6ED362.4080403@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:30:58 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert Shih References: <20090728081702.GD25904@obspm.fr> <20090728082704.GB2392@current.Sisis.de> <20090728084639.GE25904@obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20090728084639.GE25904@obspm.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:31:01 -0000 Albert Shih wrote: > Le 28/07/2009 10:27:04+0200, Matthias Apitz a crit > >> El da Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribi: >> >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? >>> If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not >>> working. >>> >> Hello Albert, >> >> The place to look (and make entries) is here: >> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ >> >> I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 >> or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: >> http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detail&laptop=12868 >> >> > Thanks for the tips. > > Another question : I've access (but I can't install anything) a E4200 > computer. How can I check what's is supported by FreeBSD ? www.freesbie.org > don't answer (maybe the project is stop). Is they are another livecd or > something like that ? > > Regards. > > Assuming there is windows installed in it, just check the device manager for entries like wireless, vga, sound etc. Then have a look at the hardware notes here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/hardware.html to see if these devices are supported. Another thing to try: Boot from the FreeBSD DVD or the livefs iso (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.2/7.2-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso), go to the "Fixit" option and select to use the live filesystem. Once you get to a console try a few things like dmesg -a to see what the kernel has recognized. Also look for problems like ACPI error messages and the like. At this point it is probably worth to try this with a FreeBSD 8.0 livefs, as it will probably support hardware than 7.2 does not. Many recent laptops have wireless chipsets that are not yet supported in FreeBSD. Take a look at the bottom side to see if an easy access to the wireless mini-PCI express card is provided. You can then easily exchange the card if needed. Atheros-based cards are sold on ebay for a few bucks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 11:15:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA463106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63E2E8FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49859 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2009 11:15:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:X-Virus-Status:X-Virus-Scanned:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yd/3tYB5KhGkDlTveNpVFeXWTosamdl4me5mBq9VcXwExweyvyEarlY59Q8W0MUoY+uaFlkzK/LUYuBDQBT86jKjvIFz0KfucCsqBuiLMeJ8nhJJzbJ3QU/HqUGfBHm0gAQD2+/4L+izOHqhuhMnZyI8uEyn66xc6ONnRS6dOZQ= ; Received: from c-76-23-177-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2009 04:15:11 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: yYjps_AVM1kOON.XGqG.NiyvplePZU4JqNyMpHAUWNGPWICSBDUVIO1_0Uz_KTF8OQ5KeIKecgBDZia2_pGLrnL8jnYK8tKDQpfm6fRooNOZef20vy8ksF.ciEQH1cJwUfQux6bUBfD8Ftj0i__boPVBg2r_bn_BVlK_sUg7undmpr7jdOXG8OSHUzp4oJexbcxJypZR3PWkKJKSdorbXcnV77K5_2WVO6O9H_U0iUNQYEyOv6iYr4simHmCHd2y3YkbV0AssGL8I_iuOl8Fe0VQXutQIyaWNE.h8i5mdljLX3740_fFyo9WQumuMwBbaoB0Y5S48ILb.u7WJ1hPR4GipCI29hP8zrmNmdE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4F3B122A0D for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:15:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:15:11 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090728071511.019d583a@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:15:13 -0000 On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:44:50 +0200 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I guess there is something simple that is wrong but my server is not > really keeping the correct time. I have these options in /etc/rc.conf > > ntpd_enable="YES" > ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" Assuming you are running the system ntpd file, the above are not really required. They are the defaults anyway. Try commenting out the line and restarting ntpd. > and here's the details of /etc/ntp.conf file: > > server 0.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 1.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 2.pl.pool.ntp.org > server 3.pl.pool.ntp.org > driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift > restrict default nopeer nomodify You are restating the 'driftfile again', why? Take out the restrict line. I doubt if you really need it. > I used to have server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org in the ntp.conf file but > today changed all entries to *.pl.pool.* > > At the moment my clock is about 3 minutes behind time. It has been > running for a year and I do not have ntpdate enabled so I guess > subsequent reboots did not correct the drifting problem. > > Is there anything obvious I am missing here? Any advice would be > greatly appreciated! > > Thank you all very much! Are there any error messages logged? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com "Then you admit confirming not denying you ever said that?" "NO! ... I mean Yes! WHAT?" "I'll put `maybe.'" -- Bloom County From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 12:08:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3E71065677 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971548FC40 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090728120845691.DXUT28534@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:08:45 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6SC8iWV064747; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:08:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 172.16.1.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:08:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090725084615.0342ddd6.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090725084615.0342ddd6.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:08:44 -0500 From: "Doug Poland" To: "Polytropon" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:08:47 -0000 On Sat, July 25, 2009 01:46, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, "Doug Poland" > wrote: >> After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man sio(4) >> talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my particular >> hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. >> >> Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. > > The file is /boot/device.hints. For each serial port, the > following dataset has to be completed: > > hint.sio..at="isa" > hint.sio..port="0x3F8" <---+ > hint.sio..flags="0x10" <---+--- set up > hint.sio..irq="4" <---+ > > Still, I don't know how to determine the correct addresses > and IRQs, maybe the documentation belonging to the expansion > card can help... > Yeah, their product manual(PDF) doesn't help with this type of information. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:54:10 -0000 *Hi all, I login to my system and try to type: startx I get a blank screen (grey colored) that I can see my mouse and nothing else. and after a few minutes I get this message:* *AUDIT: Tue Jul 28 16:38:34 2009: 983 x: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: conneciton to ":0.0" refused by Server Xlib: No protocol specified ... giving up /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit unable to connect to X server waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Server error /usr/X11R6/bin/Xauth: error in locking authority file /home/efialtis/.Xauthority* *I use KDE 3.5 But when I try "startx" as root it works, and is loading KDE fine. What's wrong? *recently I change the font (I don't know if this related with) Thanx! * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 13:54:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1E1065673 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB7C8FC25 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 09:54:48 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id QBL72129; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:54:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: roberthuff Received: from 146-115-34-114.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [146.115.34.114]) ([146.115.34.114]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 09:54:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:54:53 -0400 From: Robert Huff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:54:49 -0000 Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about working with gpart/GPT? I've read the man page, and am still a little wobbly. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 14:33:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784E106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE78FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17EC01C1A67; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:33:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A6F0C25.7040400@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:33:09 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Hall References: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> In-Reply-To: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf rules question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:33:12 -0000 Jay Hall wrote: > And, following is the output from ipfstat showing the relevant rule(s). > > @140 block in quick proto tcp from 82.0.0.0/8 to any port = smtp > > If I am looking at everything correctly all traffic coming into the > system from the 82.0.0.0/8 network to port 25 on the mail server > should be blocked. > > What am I missing? I can't tell you what you're missing, but we're missing the entire story. Just because you have a block rule doesn't mean that things will get blocked if you have a pass rule before. You need to post the entire ruleset if you want help with that. Evidently, things get passed by some other rule, you can get a clue by adding the log action to all rules passing packets to port 25 or any port. When adding new rules it is a good idea to add log statements so you can debug. Once things work, remove them to reduce the noise. BR, Erik -- Erik Nrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 14:34:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C1B10656BF for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0F4F8FC1B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 9292 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2009 14:34:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:X-Virus-Status:X-Virus-Scanned:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=q35mEbJ/ReRtYi05cR3iv+uSN5nocSnhp+jGdw0XfGQouDXDi9kby4zSN7qr9A0ldrBRoOOnjj/kIUCqKJROHut9k2GK04SFYkQ+0Tl+VgPmWm+piq1zwgjcISPVEXkj4Nj+i1G3YR+H2UR+rjHw/Z/B6wJFy0/y7NRYOaauonY= ; Received: from c-76-23-177-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2009 07:34:47 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: u19gLigVM1npYazhPAHv_roaU5ohizn4ss5BKc7ksdkn4rvOHF.P9yJ28ygfnf71xAES2uCltfD6hF8LUXfscW0h50jns0OILccCaF42DQXxY20nYSkBEtNvVo1dPt62fobXQnejqx3Z1smWok7k_h2AUV4cCay12lBlIDyD835AWtQ7mMzvGAkSGZhoIVUyJWSMF_pWaZDhyok7x6f.TcNOmq2vde0abR4TmU0VCbYp0acBIY90lGJ4vqfNwg8h0usGEog6TJXr9lHz2hsInMz_uqgmXPQrZEKb1RMrK.0SPQw8NP5OSc2m48goRMuDBS96TXpE X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 86A02229E1 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:34:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:34:47 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090728103447.2a131fe2@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:53 -0000 On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:54:08 +0300 thanos trompoukis wrote: > *Hi all, > > I login to my system and try to type: startx > I get a blank screen (grey colored) that I can see my mouse and > nothing else. > and after a few minutes I get this message:* > > *AUDIT: Tue Jul 28 16:38:34 2009: 983 x: client 1 rejected from local > host Xlib: conneciton to ":0.0" refused by Server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > ... > giving up > /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit unable to connect to X server > > > waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. > > /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Server error > /usr/X11R6/bin/Xauth: error in locking authority file > /home/efialtis/.Xauthority* > > > > *I use KDE 3.5 But when I try "startx" as root it works, and is > loading KDE fine. > What's wrong? > > *recently I change the font (I don't know if this related with) I have heard of a problem when X is started as root and then later started as an ordinary user. Evidently, the permissions on the files, and directories are set for root and the regular user cannot access them. I am not sure if that is the problem in your case; however, the fact that X works as root might be an indication of it. You might want to check the appropriate directory and file ownership's and permissions. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com "Then you admit confirming not denying you ever said that?" "NO! ... I mean Yes! WHAT?" "I'll put `maybe.'" -- Bloom County From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 14:35:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC8310656B9 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D978FC20 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5AC7F1C1A67; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:35:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A6F0CA1.4060904@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:35:13 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Hall References: <0E15E941-3CC2-4C9B-BAF2-C8910F7592ED@socket.net> <4A6F0C25.7040400@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4A6F0C25.7040400@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipf rules question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:35:16 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Jay Hall wrote: >> And, following is the output from ipfstat showing the relevant rule(s). >> >> @140 block in quick proto tcp from 82.0.0.0/8 to any port = smtp >> > Evidently, things get passed by some other rule, you can get a clue by > adding the log action to all rules passing packets to port 25 or any port. And, by the way in ip-filter it is a really good idea to add a default rule explicitly, always specify network interface and use groups to organize and optimize your ruleset. BR, Erik -- Erik Nrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 14:48:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AB6106566C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194B08FC21 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVngY-0001hA-Qo; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:29:54 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVngY-0006F7-2k; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:29:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6SETjJi075458; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:29:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6SETjxG075457; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:29:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:29:45 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20090728142945.GA75439@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:48:19 -0000 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:54:53AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about > working with gpart/GPT? I've read the man page, and am still a little > wobbly. Have a look at http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/geom-mirror.html This is a proposed addition to the handbook. There is a gpart example. By the way, I'd welcome any feedback on this modified section. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 14:51:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9179E1065674 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7403A8FC23 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so78066fxm.43 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:51:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f6DivfEtxueCcjE3+A7mc/+TtVAi6B19lJ6aMjDbEMc=; b=pHAO7ZMWS9BqYODcohMV0eVtu0sMqcYtQ5+BJKyoXJRZvtiSkSRYFu5aB5rP/s/p+G +EEhNS3q3bx9670cmV8MLNjrmnsWni0f8UngLl2SPLrkvTHwotQ3iRHFqVibKVQTSQUb Nrl6MU27qn/ZmaKqqVlad1J2Xk+x+tAGXO7IE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hRi2gW1YKYN+8KXnoWXngrFobgO6nckI1GcukA+FN1ksAYLjzFWdgzAtnssda2gyWK 4BT4q2EBSWhvA83t0rEPrqh74L0BjpMcjWXGAr+MhvMFYfIdMmJefQ90HY3DPORYzTSf fUeFvH2P43wWUPtCj5KPZde9m0YJzWcbfN1Zc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.195 with SMTP id n3mr3545545faq.12.1248792327496; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310907271745p5414c773u3ae03f22e0746953@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:45:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907280745l5c0ffa8bqe1cc8d0464b76392@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing GNATS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:51:15 -0000 Hi, Alexander Please note that as I am replying to your questions, I am in no position to do so. I do not (nor do I wish to appear to) represent the FreeBSD project in the respect your questions are asked. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Alexander Best wrote: > thanks for the link. although this wasn't the interview i was referring to the > announcement is great news. > > i don't quite understand though why there's the need to create a completely > new bug tracking system. is this due to technical issues or rather a matter of > not wanting to use what all the others are using? or to be more precise: a > matter of pride. > I doubt it is a matter of pride, but more technical reasons. The bug tracking system for the FreeBSD project needs to be very specific -- who has what PR, which PRs are untouched, which PR was resolved by which SVN commit, etc, etc. This is in addition to the 'separation' of the bugs -- networking, kernel, documentation, ports, and so on. > quite often i've been thinking: dealing with freebsd in general could be so > much easier if somebody just said: "alright! this is the way to go!" > > a lot of problems aren't really taken take of, but people talk about it for > ages not wanting to let go of ancient software e.g. > In a BSDTalk podcast interviewing a few of the core team members, this topic was brought up, and explained in some detail [1]. The situation mentioned was the conversion from cvs to subversion, and how a change like that, as easy as it may sound on paper, really is not a matter of a simple code repository conversion -- there were a lot of things to consider. As I previously mentioned, I do not attempt to represent anyone in the decision making process for the project, but I think it is a safe assumption that these same considerations need to be taken into account for other major changes. [snip] > or take bug reports in general. everybody's concentrating on adding new > features to HEAD or participates in endless discussions about some unimportant > technical stuff where basically everybody tries to show off their tech > knowledge. > You sound like you're getting off topic to your own thread here... > there are PR reports with patches included which solve critical and sometimes > ancient bugs, but nobody's taking care of them. i know people who've been > trying to use freebsd since 4.X, but were unable due to a panic which has been > analysed and patched. the patch however never made it into the repository, > because nobody seems to care. > Could you provide some examples? > it's no big secret that submitting bug reports is basically a waste of time. How so? > if you have a patch for a problem and want to get it committed into HEAD or > STABLE you have to get in contact with somebody who has write access to svn. > Isn't that where filing a PR comes in? [1] - http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2009/05/bsdtalk173-few-freebsd-core-team.html -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 14:58:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853D5106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132768FC22 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so83063fxm.43 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:58:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=S5lc4vN3QIpvHcoSJB0v25vmXxrcIwaUmCyd6WLd1L4=; b=KP4PfylX8+l1fm5MhjxKeZpgcxDK3SixPvwILwUxlkykt7HnC9TCEGprpIuzI/fuNb 7njzIO/FyD/SDT9SEVKgerjvm2xw1KcIJJaXpufuA7LFV34VYk3eltQtvotKg1+jp0I3 BnQHdfdnq1gqk7pjEcarGArc2LODDSfid9VQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WCS1TXsYvmFx3zJZ8CrtDjNCC/0SkXh0XZxF3xQQ2ZzuEFeHiRl2QGdwCyQTJa8/oz 3IHqKDbh5RuiZRf9bWupRHOQ8Q0Z+rmW854ZsbwaUWOusUvDBUWYoY8xmUlXeqtBQVR6 D9IXNbKW8UZTBXN3xRHJN6FYDaW+Mq8jtmWzA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.198 with SMTP id a6mr3518820far.42.1248793094202; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:58:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310907280745l5c0ffa8bqe1cc8d0464b76392@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad871310907271745p5414c773u3ae03f22e0746953@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310907280745l5c0ffa8bqe1cc8d0464b76392@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:58:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907280758o17989c30hbf7301dbf233fade@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing GNATS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:58:16 -0000 > > In a BSDTalk podcast interviewing a few of the core team members, this > topic was brought up, and explained in some detail [1]. =A0The situation > > [1] - http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2009/05/bsdtalk173-few-freebsd-core-tea= m.html > The wrong podcast was referenced. The correct one is: http://cisx1.uma.maine.edu/~wbackman/bsdtalk/bsdtalk164.mp3 --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 15:04:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0C2106566B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698BD8FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24712 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2009 15:04:45 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2009 15:04:45 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 987E65082A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:04:44 -0400 (EDT) To: thanos trompoukis References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:04:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: (thanos trompoukis's message of "Tue\, 28 Jul 2009 16\:54\:08 +0300") Message-ID: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:46 -0000 thanos trompoukis writes: > *Hi all, > > I login to my system and try to type: startx > I get a blank screen (grey colored) that I can see my mouse and nothing > else. > and after a few minutes I get this message:* > > *AUDIT: Tue Jul 28 16:38:34 2009: 983 x: client 1 rejected from local host > Xlib: conneciton to ":0.0" refused by Server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > ... > giving up > /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit unable to connect to X server > > > waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/msc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. > > /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: Server error > /usr/X11R6/bin/Xauth: error in locking authority file > /home/efialtis/.Xauthority* Can you rm /home/efialtis/.Xauthority? > > > *I use KDE 3.5 But when I try "startx" as root it works, and is loading KDE > fine. > What's wrong? > > *recently I change the font (I don't know if this related with) > > Thanx! > > * > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 15:17:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AAE1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536D28FC21 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 11:17:14 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id LAF14835; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:17:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: roberthuff Received: from 146-115-34-114.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [146.115.34.114]) ([146.115.34.114]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 11:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4A6F167F.40605@rcn.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:17:19 -0400 From: Robert Huff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> <20090728142945.GA75439@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090728142945.GA75439@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:17:14 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Have a look at http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~mexas/geom-mirror.html > This is a proposed addition to the handbook. There is a gpart > example. > > By the way, I'd welcome any feedback on this modified section. First iussue: the "Next" link in the upper right hand corner doesn't work. I am most interested in creating partitions generic )non-RAID) UFS(2) filesystems. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 15:42:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9645B106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FEC8FC25 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n6SFiWFU003492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:44:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4A6F1C54.5060904@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:42:12 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:42:20 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about > working with gpart/GPT? I've read the man page, and am still a little > wobbly. > > I found http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2009-April/003440.html reasonably informative. Vince > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 17:18:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E491065676 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seraphyn@seraphyn.deveth.org) Received: from dd17120.kasserver.com (dd17120.kasserver.com [85.13.137.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A89E8FC23 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seraphyn@seraphyn.deveth.org) Received: from deveth.org (HSI-KBW-085-216-033-034.hsi.kabelbw.de [85.216.33.34]) by dd17120.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCDA18730ADC for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:59:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:49:33 +0200 From: Christian Grube To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt (Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.2 (2.6.26-2-686)) X-Message-Flag: Please do not send HTML-Mails. Thanks. Cc: Subject: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Christian Crube List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:18:47 -0000 Hi, I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox and it works like a charm. Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under FreeBSD 8? Greetings Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 17:20:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E725106567C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F648FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 13:20:41 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id LAF37906; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-19-25.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.19.25]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 13:19:43 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19055.13102.937732.190045@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:19:42 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4A6F1C54.5060904@unsane.co.uk> References: <4A6F032D.20804@rcn.com> <4A6F1C54.5060904@unsane.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: Re: documentation for gpart(8)/GPT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:20:41 -0000 Vincent Hoffman writes: > > Is there anything - official, or unofficial but reliable - about > > working with gpart/GPT? I've read the man page, and am still a little > > wobbly. > > I found > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2009-April/003440.html > reasonably informative. Very close to what I want. Thank you. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 18:17:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351EE1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gosha-necr@yandex.ru) Received: from forward7.yandex.ru (forward7.yandex.ru [77.88.61.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE84E8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gosha-necr@yandex.ru) Received: from webmail9.yandex.ru (webmail9.yandex.ru [213.180.223.99]) by forward7.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2BE74310A47 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:17:27 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail9.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1291052C48F for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:17:27 +0400 (MSD) X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: webmail9 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1248805047 Received: from [77.223.91.154] ([77.223.91.154]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:17:26 +0400 From: "gosha-necr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <117651248805046@webmail9.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:17:26 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Why graph on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/growth/status.png not updated? 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h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1N13Jw667ANK3EDTpgrsKNVKfTsTcAdJjIh7tZfyZC0=; b=QtGTS6WPC8daeiPYs84paKecg7zCi/vgaDGMogi+ExN5cAEIcQ9yF1xB64Dn39IIXR FkBOqQecIpiuk4To0dl/gLtTz+G99xz2l5HF0fxDlOqQ10HnEPPwxu9S/5Ew0k0aGIQh 3w/auKnIVg+YkPBQGHH0GJnE9G/3RN5H5R7Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Dj5KmCDD6aICzP9RagAlEYZlU4FfrKVD8dZBHNWqpDb1FNt1YjXj/MwrwnYj9JpfVI ZgcsOHng7Nd7yZIpA1m9u3erK9Xo2nIChVcKWH1HRKBjJd50zH4iEnwNbY4YKP0dO+0g i8425zSM8ILU36JELdLh4NixoQYxFU2EcIMbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.206.8 with SMTP id d8mr10372481ang.108.1248804537126; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:08:57 -0300 Message-ID: From: gula nito To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001636b431f1d4503d046fc7f6c1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Failing to compile a new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:35:05 -0000 --001636b431f1d4503d046fc7f6c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Im trying to compile a new kernel, but when I try to make it , I receive the following error: * ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST28JUL09. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src.* The last "MAKE" that appears in the terminal was *"MAKE=make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh TEST28JUL09"* I adjunt the configuration file Thanks! --001636b431f1d4503d046fc7f6c1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=TEST28JUL09 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=TEST28JUL09 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_fxp4dzgz0 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--001636b431f1d4503d046fc7f6c1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 19:00:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FA21065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4408FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MVruv-0004th-8D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:00:55 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MVruu-00063C-Gf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:00:52 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6SJ0p7M056917 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:00:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6SJ0pQn056910 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:00:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:00:50 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090728190050.GA55599@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.9 X-Spam-Level: --- Subject: mutt-devel freezes with "filesystem full", ends up in wdrain cpu state X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:00:56 -0000 On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP mutt-devel-1.5.20_1 freezes on some folders with /tmp: write failed, filesystem is full Could not copy message top shows that mutt is in "wdrain" state and in /var/log/messages I see kernel: pid 43702 (mutt), uid 1001 inumber 23554 on /tmp: filesystem full /tmp has lots of free space Anybody else is seeing this? What could be the problem? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 19:12:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF82106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8528FC1B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 68B751C1A67 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:55:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A6F4986.2040706@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:55:02 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: opensips port for freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:12:30 -0000 Hi: I have noted there are two ports in net/, ser and openser. According to the information I can dig up, ser is dead. openser is a fork, the port version is 1.2. In 2008 openser was renamed opensips, continuing the version numbering opensips is now in 1.5. Has anyone got opensips compiled and running? Is there any opensips port coming up? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nrgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 19:53:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F5B1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29158FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090728195348588.YSUN28534@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:53:48 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6SJrl6i066117; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 209.103.215.99 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500 From: "Doug Poland" To: "Christian Crube" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:53:50 -0000 On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt > or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox > and it works like a charm. > > Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under > FreeBSD 8? > I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support. A quick look at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a configurable knob. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 20:13:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277041065672 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F6F8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6333 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2009 20:13:36 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2009 20:13:36 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id F2C385082A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:13:34 -0400 (EDT) To: thanos trompoukis References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:13:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (thanos trompoukis's message of "Tue\, 28 Jul 2009 20\:40\:58 +0300") Message-ID: <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:13:37 -0000 thanos trompoukis writes: >> Can you rm /home/efialtis/.Xauthority? >> > > > > > When I try rm /home/efialtis/.Xauthority it ask me this: > > override rw------- root/wheel for .Xaouthority? > > > What am I suppose to do? Get root to remove it. And don't run X as root again. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 20:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C74106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651C68FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 18206 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2009 20:29:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2009 20:29:51 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5DAE65082A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:29:50 -0400 (EDT) To: gula nito References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:29:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (gula nito's message of "Tue\, 28 Jul 2009 15\:08\:57 -0300") Message-ID: <44prbkmtz5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Failing to compile a new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:29:53 -0000 gula nito writes: > Hello, Im trying to compile a new kernel, but when I try to make it , I > receive the following error: > * > ***Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST28JUL09. > ***Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > ***Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src.* The actual error was a little higher up. > The last "MAKE" that appears in the terminal was *"MAKE=make sh > /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh TEST28JUL09"* First of all, you can usually stick with the GENERIC kernel unless you need something particular. If you are going to change it, then the approach you should take is to make a few changes at a time. That way, if the build fails, you can reverse those changes and figure out what was wrong with them. > I adjunt the configuration file Looks like you included NFS_LOCKD without including NFS. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 20:30:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D15C1065673 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [64.146.239.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70488FC25 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from kstewart2.owt.com (kstewart2.owt.com [64.146.237.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6SKU7uD029743; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:30:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=owt.com; s=default; t=1248813008; bh=urszBb/AaqftqPVygJwDvNpNNlDEpXmoy1X+330/qO0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=kcmUuoLI2BJ52 XOP7Oziv0JvS98MFpQXGOJKqG0hIyKGlRPLxPk5VVdcAjnpZC3NTZ19tMzcgmAx2K7y 7mM2usUwBSaADH9NF2dTA7XW5Iy74qQ3Ak0jbqKJrIKEr6yqb8CmdtiOkQkgDtrh/Qh fb9DCROIgDQUBPMVJ2AguUoY= From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:30:01 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907281330.02308.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: gula nito Subject: Re: Failing to compile a new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:30:09 -0000 On Tuesday 28 July 2009 11:08:57 am gula nito wrote: > Hello, Im trying to compile a new kernel, but when I try to make it , I > receive the following error: > * > ***Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST28JUL09. > ***Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > ***Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src.* > > The last "MAKE" that appears in the terminal was *"MAKE=make sh > /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh TEST28JUL09"* > > I adjunt the configuration file > > Thanks! You have to include the actual error messages. The error 1 is just telling you that you had an error. You have scbus, da, and miibus, which are the most common errors that I see. I didn't see anything else. Post the error messages and maybe some one will see what you did wrong. You should probably include a "uname -a". Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 20:33:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE26106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B11F8FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 69179 invoked by uid 89); 28 Jul 2009 20:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 28 Jul 2009 20:33:54 -0000 In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0907272142o7f3e7955q92ac1e62049aeb5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> <0DDF77FD-C2E7-4DD0-9E05-1117322D0D58@identry.com> <8250ac3f0907272142o7f3e7955q92ac1e62049aeb5d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:33:34 -0400 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn+ssh server only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:33:38 -0000 > So the only one you had marked was the svnserve-wrapper ? in Make > config No, I just used the default config. You don't need svnserve-wrapper (what ever that is). You just run svnserve as a daemon, and access it like svn://host.name/project/trunk/ Note the importance of PF to control access, otherwise, your svn server will be wide open. But since PF allows me (or rather, any one or process using an allowed IP address) to access the repository without authentication, use is really simple and straight forward. This is a pretty simple set up and probably only works well for single-user repositories, but that's exactly my situation. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 21:00:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19876106564A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sandyr@irmacs.sfu.ca) Received: from nitrogen.irmacs.sfu.ca (nitrogen.irmacs.sfu.ca [142.58.53.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F748FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sandyr@irmacs.sfu.ca) Received: from nitrogen.irmacs.sfu.ca (nitrogen.irmacs.sfu.ca [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 14586B08316 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lithium.irmacs.sfu.ca (lithium.irmacs.sfu.ca [142.58.53.82]) by nitrogen.irmacs.sfu.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8732B082A1 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irmacs085.irmacs.sfu.ca.irmacs.sfu.ca (irmacs085.irmacs.sfu.ca [142.58.52.85]) by lithium.irmacs.sfu.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F194CBC518B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Sandy Rutherford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19055.25225.507790.317269@irmacs085.irmacs.sfu.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:41:45 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta20) "cilantro" (+CVS-20050310) XEmacs Lucid X-PMX-Version: 5.5.0.356843, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.1.350677, Antispam-Data: 2009.7.28.202717 X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_400_499 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, ECARD_WORD 0, TO_NO_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0' Subject: Dell perc 2/qc cannot find 7.2 MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:00:32 -0000 I have been trying to install FreeBSD 7.2 on a i386 system with a Dell Perc 2/QC SCSI raid card. The root files system is on a raid 1 volume. However, after installation the system will not boot. The BIOS complains that it cannot find the master boot record. During installation, I installed a "standard master boot record" on the volume. Has anybody else seen this? Suggestions? Thanks, Sandy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 21:07:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF681065670 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (fed1rmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.241.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8288FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090728210715.DMYI25927.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:07:15 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([98.165.138.223]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id MZ7E1c0024pNzHu04Z7EFY; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:07:14 -0400 X-VR-Score: -90.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6wBvBrFavHgA:10 a=rhOQtCvr5S9Pv6V2WCYA:9 a=X8vIrZJ-eYJ9NhLJqgHXolJOI0oA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by darkstar.l.net with local; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:07:13 -0700 id 00017A53.4A6F6881.0000EF9A From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:07:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907281407.13445.mirror176@cox.net> Subject: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:07:15 -0000 After one of the last crashes, the system would lock up a short time after rebooting. I found the problem caused by background fsck locking up the system. I took the partition out of the startup check for now. I 'think' I was installing a port during the last crash, but it has been a while. I performed a fsck and a dump (to /dev/null) confirming that both do crash the freebsd 7.2 and 6.2 (which I booted off of a separate drive). A tar to /dev/null did run successfully, but I recall reading that that is not a recommended way to backup/move a filesystem. The /usr partition where it causes trouble is in a raid5 geom_vinum three drive array. I did not yet have the array rebuild the parity nor do I know if there is any advantage/disadvantage in doing so (for this problem). I ran a long test on the drives using smartctl (which is a safer surface check than dd because 1 bad sector on my promise controller will cause a panic; I have an unrelated drive with a corrupted sector if the promise controller dirver has an interested maintainer.) When running fsck, it is somewhere within phase 1 when it crashes. I ran a truss run of fsck with -aedD and snapped a photo of my screen when it crashed which I can type up if it is of any use. At the time of freebsd freezing, the hard drive activity light goes from a faint flicker to on solid for about a second and then goes out. The system is completely unresponsive where it locks showing no sign of activity that I have been able to notice. I imagine the recommendation is start over, but before I do (and likely just try a tar backup/restore), are there any other suggestions and questions before I blow away the problem? It would be nice for freebsd users to not be able to run into such a problem. As a final question, is there any safe way to crash freebsd (or pull system power) without a risk of filesystem corruption? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 21:16:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECD5106568A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD4C8FC5C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3649C1E128; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:16:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6SLGAIH001890; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:16:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:16:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" Message-Id: <20090728231610.9d7c9299.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200907281407.13445.mirror176@cox.net> References: <200907281407.13445.mirror176@cox.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:16:18 -0000 On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:07:13 -0700, "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" wrote: > As a final question, is there any safe way to crash freebsd (or pull system > power) without a risk of filesystem corruption? An "easy" way is to go into single user mode and umount all the partitions, then press Reset or Power off. Most cases of file system corruption on hard reset or power loss are often repaired well by the fsck program. (I had system crashes due to defective USB sticks and never had file system corruption after a successful fsck run. Note that I did fsck in the foreground.) If you cannot umount disks, run "sync" three or four times and wait a little while. This is not "as good" as umounting disks, and quite useless if the system is active (in terms of file I/O). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 28 21:21:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FE21065670 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA228FC1D for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so509551gxk.19 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:21:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=s0aUF8mf8O3gjNyAu9mIFAyZaxYkTpnOie27xeUZk1I=; b=B65bo9XSii9vqE5y/+8EQdAbgDmmDc7b3PIDVXhJAwphXYfbiKSIqhJDqMnqhvnPFG LEmqlbjWze496AUEx7juBKrcp2w+t6vR7hASkgzbQbibbfQG/8v4Jy43wyhdDPk+tqdV u9p1Xj8Wi0FkkGpp++XOWEbCONonrzYoZk7OQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; b=hbaBnb/n5nQMoVuaxq8I4DB+zIm+o9GnHhgp7BnFpVIDOZLjVTIb8idph+K9aGWTJy NrMptcJ50CKd12sb8/tiOUBy1PU0/0xeaSKuSrKTruMSZFqT9oXSst+umFUBXQ9iFuO7 19p4xOS5sEjiR76X4BnQrB2ePQKBn9W3DLioY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.124.15 with SMTP id w15mr162160ybc.81.1248816065493; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:21:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090728231610.9d7c9299.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <200907281407.13445.mirror176@cox.net> <20090728231610.9d7c9299.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:21:05 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907281421x5fb5aeav60e0d6e4f83df492@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:21:07 -0000 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:07:13 -0700, "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" < > mirror176@cox.net> wrote: > > As a final question, is there any safe way to crash freebsd (or pull > system > > power) without a risk of filesystem corruption? > > An "easy" way is to go into single user mode and umount all the > partitions, then press Reset or Power off. Most cases of file system > corruption on hard reset or power loss are often repaired well by > the fsck program. (I had system crashes due to defective USB sticks > and never had file system corruption after a successful fsck run. > Note that I did fsck in the foreground.) > > If you cannot umount disks, run "sync" three or four times and wait > a little while. This is not "as good" as umounting disks, and quite > useless if the system is active (in terms of file I/O). > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > I've had fs corruption after a successful fsck runs, sometimes multiples are needed. I think after 2 consecutive runs it's as good as it's going to get, but I could be wrong more may be helpful. This is a rare occurrence in my experience. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 05:41:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4AE1065679 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8F98FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Message-Id: <7qb0kt$9nq28s@relay.skynet.be> X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmUKAFt1b0rD7gTB/2dsb2JhbACBUlEyUowcAYlKrBGSNoFABYFI Received: from webmailfront009.isp.belgacom.be (HELO multimail.skynet.be) ([195.238.4.193]) by relay.skynet.be with SMTP; 29 Jul 2009 07:12:13 +0200 X-Webmail-posting-IP: 195.13.31.240 From: alainfabry@belgacom.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:12:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Xorg 7.4 issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:41:19 -0000 I'm having problems with Xorg 7.4. For some reason, my windows show up but I can't do anything with them, meaning, I see the window appear, but when I type something, I don't see what is being typed. Sympthoms: When launching KDM, I don't see the greeting window, but yet when I type my password I get to log in. Once logged in, background and everything (KDE4 taskbar), but when I open an application (konsole, firefox, etc) only the outline of the window appears. So with konsole the outline appears, if I type something it gets executed but I can't see it. Also, when I try to move the window elsewhere, its outline completely fades away. The same happens when I just use startx -> so it's not a KDE problem. hald and dbus are enabled and seem to work ok since mouse and keyboard can be used. What can this be, system is basically useless in X mode. Everything worked fine in 7.3. Sorry for the strange explanation, but I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 05:43:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EE21065670 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1777D8FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so452303fxm.43 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:43:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=7DUlOqaZp7tKBA1CKKdFNuEk2QoCs/lRWKdLw98V7+o=; b=ryZzkemohPKLJ9Ba/lt7B8PFSnYdS/GBRr+wB2hEy1rA+L1aQ87OLSE8tIbFiB5Jum 12FkYKFqsqEksBCIYeaC62pbKUIrMkwjNhgZYa28vBgi/SwoeaG6OFOq097hh9l15fsR qkukPKxqfST0gdKwcJlmbXfpVTAXCWXKIED1s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=pT86jaq5sQtMBmOEwujsDN5Hav4aoaDPUH2dwWHnyJ7RABQp102hWdrXRNVVKTcUaB xvLay2+1UdEo2sctjML/qvdA147Et8XpwG0xOtUjcUFcwp4NwxcoREFPiPSRf3oBbYzm yZLVoTtPYyav/ZBQ0LIlk1zLZkoGhFZ6ZMiIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.119.76 with SMTP id y12mr5188869bkq.114.1248846219132; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:43:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8250ac3f0907261635k298dbb03w77c18134cfd140fd@mail.gmail.com> <0DDF77FD-C2E7-4DD0-9E05-1117322D0D58@identry.com> <8250ac3f0907272142o7f3e7955q92ac1e62049aeb5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:43:39 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7d46af7bafe9284d Message-ID: <8250ac3f0907282243s73a2fc32l3afea343275642f7@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= To: John Almberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn+ssh server only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:43:40 -0000 Okay - Thank you :) Mine is behind pfsense and PAT On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:33 PM, John Almberg wrote= : > So the only one you had marked was the svnserve-wrapper ? in Make config >> > > No, I just used the default config. You don't need svnserve-wrapper (what > ever that is). You just run svnserve as a daemon, and access it like svn:= // > host.name/project/trunk/ > > Note the importance of PF to control access, otherwise, your svn server > will be wide open. But since PF allows me (or rather, any one or process > using an allowed IP address) to access the repository without > authentication, use is really simple and straight forward. > > This is a pretty simple set up and probably only works well for single-us= er > repositories, but that's exactly my situation. > > -- John > > --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=F8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 05:47:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F980106566B; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022928FC16; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6T4aFUY055908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:36:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 prime.gushi.org n6T4aFUY055908 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1248840407; bh=a1zFk8I69zsFroNrwtqDx8y/vnHi6oaWJV6APpK6hLk=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ira9JQrW6c7a/SZWqpsib4CRYrMYgzi00fotVCY9YHxKS3eyhWj6UWaQS9qaxD08y oZ7zFNisBWlqwdmfY2VSw== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org n6T4aFUY055908 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:user-agent: x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=L0kH0kYGhngSldgtlL5akA/7Ot73ZEWL/fro8i9oELBMwZ3Wdc00pb/nA40khlf2k kA1pASmuSjzHO+FGbIENA== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6T4OSw0054102; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:24:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:24:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:47:33 -0000 Hey all, I'm having a problem on multiple systems: With a clean port, in dns/bind96: I get the options screen, I select only "overwrite base" in addition to the defaults:, and after, I get this: make: don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/dns/bind96. s1# Additional builds go fine. Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035.html But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason is because this problem goes away a second time. -Dan -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 05:58:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784431065672 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277C18FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828777E821; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:58:44 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:58:43 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:58:47 -0000 On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > make: don't know how to make > /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop > *** Error code 2 > Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. >html > > But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason > is because this problem goes away a second time. Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 06:17:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829711065673; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:17:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311448FC1B; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828777E821; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:58:44 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:58:43 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:17:42 -0000 On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > make: don't know how to make > /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop > *** Error code 2 > Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. >html > > But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason > is because this problem goes away a second time. Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 06:38:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794A0106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from b.mail.ru.ac.za (b.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A668FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:57081) by b.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MW2o4-000GbP-LF; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:32 +0200 Received: from iwdf-5.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.28]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MW2o4-000812-JZ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:32 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4A700A88.15248.4747C6A@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20090729055906.DB1051065696@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20090729055906.DB1051065696@hub.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: b.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.34) Cc: mirror176@cox.net Subject: Re: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:38:36 -0000 On 29 Jul 2009 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org entreated about "freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 269, Issue 6": > After one of the last crashes, the system would lock up a short time > after rebooting. I found the problem caused by background fsck locking > up the system. I took the partition out of the startup check for now. > I 'think' I was installing a port during the last crash, but it has > been a while. I performed a fsck and a dump (to /dev/null) confirming > that both do crash the freebsd 7.2 and 6.2 (which I booted off of a > separate drive). A tar to /dev/null did run successfully, but I recall > reading that that is not a recommended way to backup/move a > filesystem. The /usr partition where it causes trouble is in a raid5 > geom_vinum three drive array. I did not yet have the array rebuild the My experience has been that dump *with snapshot* of a live filesystem will crash if the filesystem is 'large'. MY solution is to umount the partition. This happens with my 800GB /home which is part of a 4 drive raid5 array (ar driver with hardware setup). It used to happen with the previous 320GB mirror array too, just with /home which is the biggest partition. This is one reason I moved away from tape backup to a secondary server full of harddrives as backup target, the tape took far too long with /home unmounted and users were affected. As for the fsck crashing, I'm lost. Maybe a faulty drive? -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 06:48:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C5D106566B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F71A8FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (87-205-51-161.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.51.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A1B5B801F for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:48:46 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1248850126; bh=p4/PK/jkYc6TzPfbGXorYW52xN9PVAVBWwTpJwpIPAQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DYrvWkrf/ZUX7/WJ5cOtsPVym9pNBwzd5O1rFvpFEuRGTR217+HwuBEdVSgmvlwIU p/Pe4jTHO3jd6h43GSKVwabaZI68BhbKq+94yC+qWeHAxypnRE1sCEOqzGZPpshvNO uIW8Ebp+pjABqZXwY656j/PSsnWdmuxASwuAeQIw= Message-ID: <4A6FF0CC.8020607@lcwords.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:48:44 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> <20090728071511.019d583a@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20090728071511.019d583a@scorpio.seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:48:48 -0000 Hello, Jerry pisze: >> ntpd_enable="YES" >> ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift" > > Assuming you are running the system ntpd file, the above are not > really required. They are the defaults anyway. Try commenting out the > line and restarting ntpd. Thank you Jerry - that was the problem. If you want to run a default nptd service, you should not have any ntpd flags in the rc.conf file. Thanks - the clock is now synchronized. Thank you everyone! It is wonderful to be part of such a friendly community. Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 07:33:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4AA106566B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA928FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 925 invoked by uid 399); 29 Jul 2009 07:04:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 29 Jul 2009 07:04:59 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:04:55 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:33:09 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > >> make: don't know how to make >> /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop >> *** Error code 2 > >> Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: >> >> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. >> html >> >> But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason >> is because this problem goes away a second time. > > Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, > but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options > are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked for me. Please let me know if it doesn't work for you. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 07:33:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A005A1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA028FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 925 invoked by uid 399); 29 Jul 2009 07:04:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 29 Jul 2009 07:04:59 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:04:55 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:33:09 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > >> make: don't know how to make >> /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop >> *** Error code 2 > >> Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: >> >> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. >> html >> >> But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason >> is because this problem goes away a second time. > > Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, > but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options > are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked for me. Please let me know if it doesn't work for you. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 07:35:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DDC1065676; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D007F8FC1F; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6T7ZH3f098316 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:35:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 prime.gushi.org n6T7ZH3f098316 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1248851161; bh=8MKOi6MDJZ/FtOJjoFfTED1wPkClkSXprMyw5LrBRt4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OjiyUjCgbG2mJgp1zod2TSzoLr5BKy+p0ToI0HzRrzs2/BqT2DePrbx5dt0shfDEA bjgoDuIIFElhutKegZO7Q== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org n6T7ZH3f098316 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=gIavM4ZkctA0AExbxElIP6aOLOx2WioQgul9tzZ3oXNThvdYx/4LS11gkXV069+3x AJZ6b8ljVnsTSdvNDF4aQ== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6T791Gs091039; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:09:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:09:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:35:33 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Doug Barton wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: >> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> >>> make: don't know how to make >>> /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop >>> *** Error code 2 >> >>> Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: >>> >>> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. >>> html >>> >>> But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason >>> is because this problem goes away a second time. >> >> Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, >> but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options >> are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. > > I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked > for me. As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, and probably a ports bug. -Dan -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 08:09:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AFE106564A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14F08FC13; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6T7ZH3f098316 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:35:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 prime.gushi.org n6T7ZH3f098316 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1248851161; bh=8MKOi6MDJZ/FtOJjoFfTED1wPkClkSXprMyw5LrBRt4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OjiyUjCgbG2mJgp1zod2TSzoLr5BKy+p0ToI0HzRrzs2/BqT2DePrbx5dt0shfDEA bjgoDuIIFElhutKegZO7Q== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org n6T7ZH3f098316 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=gIavM4ZkctA0AExbxElIP6aOLOx2WioQgul9tzZ3oXNThvdYx/4LS11gkXV069+3x AJZ6b8ljVnsTSdvNDF4aQ== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6T791Gs091039; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:09:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:09:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:09:59 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Doug Barton wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: >> On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:24:27 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> >>> make: don't know how to make >>> /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop >>> *** Error code 2 >> >>> Someone else had the same problem, and they also chose overwrite-base: >>> >>> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-08/msg00035. >>> html >>> >>> But it was dismissed because he was using "sudo", however the real reason >>> is because this problem goes away a second time. >> >> Most likely because that option changes PREFIX, so the BUILD_COOKIE changed, >> but the target was already in make's list of targets to make. After options >> are stored in /var/db/ports, BUILD_COOKIE will end in ._usr. > > I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked > for me. As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, and probably a ports bug. -Dan -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 08:36:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAEE106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (fed1rmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.241.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7498FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090729083653.XRF1223.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:36:53 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([98.165.138.223]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id Mkct1c0034pNzHu03kctX8; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:36:53 -0400 X-VR-Score: -60.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6wBvBrFavHgA:10 a=L9Rxc1bb2t7P2rEVOt0A:9 a=bn9W0kg0Vki5rGVp603EXLHZmXIA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by darkstar.l.net with local; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:36:52 -0700 id 00017A53.4A700A24.0000F905 From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:36:52 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907290136.52614.mirror176@cox.net> Subject: fsck and dump freeze freebsd. any ideas? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:36:54 -0000 The smartctl tests on the three drives came back saying they were checked 100% without error; bad sectors have always caused an error and an aborted scan at the point of trouble for me in the past. I 'thought' I recalled seeing a panic along the lines of ffs_free or something related to free blocks or something at one point; maybe that was an error with fsck on the live system when manually ran. I will try to reproduce. Otherwise I do not know that fsck crashes; the entire system locks. I will see if I can reproduce the problem as a panic. There were some errors fsck seems to think it cleaned. A couple still exist indicating wrong counts about '12 should be 4' or '4 should be 0' type stuff. One error had a ridiculously large seven digit or so number that fsck said should be reduced. I had made a many terabyte file with a dd write to the end of a file of the largest size it would let me create and have since deleted the file; maybe that was what the reference was to. After fixing some errors, the fsck still causes a freeze and at what seems to be about the same point. The filesystem was unmounted for the dump and fsck has been attempted both mounted and unmounted. The filesystem has (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates) reported for features by mount under normal operation. The freeze with dump did occur during a snapshot creation, which I found I cannot kill with a -9 (kill attempted minutes before the crash which still would not stop the creation). The powerdown question is more for how to handle an unsafe powerdown/crash on an active system. If I need to read from a partition, would read only leave it completely clean? Is there a way to operate on a file system which is treated as more of a ramdisk of changes and keeps the real partition unmodified (giving results like Faronics deepfreeze software or qemu disks in snapshot mode)? Would a zfs mirror configuration handle the unexpected crash/powerdown? Would it just report and fix the corruption, mention what files/structures weror impacted, offer restore of that data from a recent snapshot, or just say it is time to restore from a backup? Thanks again for the feedback, Ed Sutton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 08:50:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A1A10656C8 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (fed1rmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.241.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068458FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090729085023.TFUA20976.fed1rmmtao102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:50:23 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([98.165.138.223]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id MkqP1c0074pNzHu04kqPHe; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:50:23 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DZOHcWS8HRrlxXPjSIAA:9 a=WuDbNY42IBwWbG6A38Gg6L2HwRcA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by darkstar.l.net with local; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:50:22 -0700 id 00017A53.4A700D4E.0000F941 From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:50:22 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907290150.22783.mirror176@cox.net> Subject: How to get SystemMemorySize? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:50:24 -0000 Something like the following should use the power of sysctl. physmem and usermem in place of realmem may be of use too. Just wish I knew proper values nad logic to tweak kern.ipc.shmmax and similar paramaters. int realmem; char* realmem_mib_name = "hw.realmem"; return(sysctlbyname(usermem_mib_name, &realmem, &len, 0, 0)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 08:58:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8047D106566B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao104.cox.net (fed1rmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.241.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437AE8FC29 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090729085849.ZPWL17135.fed1rmmtao104.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:58:49 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([98.165.138.223]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id Mkyp1c0064pNzHu03kypzm; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:58:49 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5e-OV38yiwVcmWuXb08A:9 a=E9iqkInE850QTPuMPZ8mDW1qmuQA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by darkstar.l.net with local; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:58:48 -0700 id 00017A53.4A700F48.0000F968 From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:58:48 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907290158.48913.mirror176@cox.net> Subject: SATA DVD issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:58:50 -0000 For the encrypted DVDs, have you set a region for the drive to match? How are you accessing them? Further hardware information may help (people better at this than I) identify issues; what SATA controller connects the drive. Last I checked, my promise controller cards seem to have incomplete drivers for what is needed to support optical drives unless I misunderstood the code. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 09:36:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB68106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (fed1rmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.241.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8D8FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090729093619.TOVS20976.fed1rmmtao102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:36:19 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([98.165.138.223]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id MlcJ1c0014pNzHu04lcJCW; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:36:18 -0400 X-VR-Score: -10.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=IP17e_1XAAAA:8 a=pFyrSAfZfGu3VVamdZsA:9 a=CGFg5Hm8Y0c8xecLZxgA:7 a=lUdIwbW-6UFQrZpQkfA8xV_wpwMA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by darkstar.l.net with local; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:36:17 -0700 id 00017A5F.4A701811.0000FA0D From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:36:17 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907290236.17385.mirror176@cox.net> Subject: kernel panic on SATA drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:36:19 -0000 The FreeBSD Developers' Handbook describes how to get panic information (and dig out further details). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html#KERNELDEBUG-OBTAIN Was there any output before "ad7: FAILURE - device detached"? Losing the drive in the bios makes me think hardware, but I'd check for any firmware problems/updates if they exist. I have not tried yet, but FreeBSD8 is supposed to finally handle the anxiety of losing a drive. http://freebsdfoundation.org/press/2008Dec-newsletter.shtml#Project1 I would try smartctl from ports; run a long scan and read the full output to see if it passes or if you get a response like: # 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 20% 32490 308342849 Also look above that output to see if there any metioned 'Error ## occured at disk power-on lifetime' type of messages. to scan, run: smartctl -t long /dev/ad7 after the scan, read output with: smartctl -a long /dev/ad7 What motherboard is it? "GeForce 8200" sounds like a graphics chipset to me. For hardware analysis, try to isolate it to a particular drive (sounds like it is only the seagate), cable (data or power), motherboard sata port. When the drive is not recognized, does a coldboot redetect it? Does the drive start any audible clicking? What model of drive is it? Make sure the drive is dusted off, increase the cooling, and try again; I have a drive that flakes out if the three speed antec fan in front of it is only on low but stabilizes when kept cooler; its a great hint to me that the drive is near life's end. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 09:48:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9922B106566C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (fed1rmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.241.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9958FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mirror176@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090729094807.CNSY14387.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:48:07 -0400 Received: from darkstar.l.net ([98.165.138.223]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Mlo71c0044pNzHu04lo7ts; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:48:08 -0400 X-VR-Score: -30.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2et4TYyw-KJTMC6I9_oA:9 a=WfVXSitA9hv53xr3N7MyWPCzk1cA:4 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by darkstar.l.net with local; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:48:07 -0700 id 00017A5F.4A701AD7.0000FA3B From: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:48:07 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907290248.07130.mirror176@cox.net> Subject: Xorg 7.4 issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:48:09 -0000 The keyboard works in some apps but not others? What video driver (and have you tried vesa if not using it to see if the problem can still be reproduced)? All x11 related drivers were rebuilt too? Output from the xorg logfile and your xorg.conf may be helpful. Maybe there is other relevant output to the console that X is launched from. Maybe a different problem, but I had trouble with keyboard input not appearing (and all of the X screen freezing; no blinking clock). It would come back with touching the mouse, and freezing was also caused by using the mouse. The trouble appeared back when "AllowEmptyInput" was discussed in the ports UPDATING file, but that no longer seems to work right (nor does DontZap) in my xorg.conf. I found things worked right by stopping hald before launching X. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 09:51:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A74106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s15.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s15.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE348FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS22 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s15.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:37:22 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:37:03 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2009 09:37:22.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C6D5DC0:01CA1030] Subject: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:51:10 -0000 Hi, I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in the functional server, but the other one has not. The maillog of functional server ====================== Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, relay=59-...net [59...147] The other one ========= Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. Please help or tip me for something I forget. Thank you! Reed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 12:56:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5934106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1628FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so557983bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dJ8ni0jcTd/A3AnKpDa0KJ+jLyYJgyZTt7TCPkQJNqQ=; b=ZggiXMNZ5Mxf5xNtrlR1dMZZSUoiOa1cODRfGIqFJakr4hA9iPOKRnefKaq/8cG/BD 03VYblyQttne4N7cmiF6Sxc4+AmKYwD/XpUk/sgFTGX8YT3mM9z13KTYTsMH9Ll4U+Am OC+ZYIUsIuXuPefcXfny0WrPaJ7gHohNmb+TA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DdxAUU9N9hus+Kp0zxKhgLdM3lcwL7yCCG1nI7H2YYdlPTrnkByIlSAupZ+5D8aqpK fq2/axhNjrCZolrmsTUg9BcW8QuMFrEkXVumaBHHdJX5Ph+fnwS/BJp/Ny9u24YcwYKL gHL/hj+WFl3QKtVmWFT/zCy4LZOQ5vUF09okE= Received: by 10.102.253.3 with SMTP id a3mr4502873mui.134.1248872216122; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm5080513muo.3.2009.07.29.05.56.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:51 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090729135651.42d86325@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6FF0CC.8020607@lcwords.com> References: <4A6E2DE2.4080606@lcwords.com> <20090728071511.019d583a@scorpio.seibercom.net> <4A6FF0CC.8020607@lcwords.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ntpd / time synchronization X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:56:58 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:48:44 +0200 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > Jerry pisze: > > >> ntpd_enable="YES" > >> ntpd_flags="-g -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid > >> -f /var/db/ntp.drift" > > > > Assuming you are running the system ntpd file, the above are not > > really required. They are the defaults anyway. Try commenting out > > the line and restarting ntpd. > > Thank you Jerry - that was the problem. If you want to run a default > nptd service, you should not have any ntpd flags in the rc.conf file. I doubt it, I think you must have done something else to fix it. The only difference between what you had, and the defaults is the -g option. That option just allows ntpd to make an initial unlimited correction rather, rather than exiting if the clock is out by >1000s. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 13:04:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7F21065748; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wael.nasreddine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479838FC12; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wael.nasreddine@gmail.com) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so640585fxm.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:04:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bz2TjXT30dh2lL7qhjLwI68x4UeT9cCzvz0Mm/Aauqo=; b=thb2qmrwIAldstzNf/t3xqZLG8iBwWNJG2SS5wZH24/VGGF1JVT5wzktOmdpmIkj2I aO8uIV+vWjsnX5HvftjQK2RP57y3sjCys8PN/rm/hpijrUZ2SMscLP8urhu53QuohakO gtqldHT/R5zNIS4nz7fplulrwLsTHM7+LPdXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZJeS+Ic9zHSc9eVXnpgp9HRPtJr65ZAQvlMhe3BrsNEznBF9dQ9Syd/xROD4YdvOnp Nm2FbLMvYuDJAXJd1I8xTCXkx4dWsl5iQFIt8EZFcsSyaAr8oCG4AZKwpWPQB3RtqWXF whK01byqcpUzp+O7RgJnJPoYQP7vdt0HIFNPU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.219.11 with SMTP id r11mr4646153mug.82.1248872656062; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:04:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Wael Nasreddine Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:03:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Can't boot 8-BETA2 on HP Pavilion dv7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:04:18 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to boot from 8-BETA2 DVD in order to install it on an HP Pavilion DV7-1199EF Laptop, but I get this error message: run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config This is repeated a few times then installation stops and debugging console opens, see below (typed by hand) panic: run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks: waited too long cpuid =3D 0 KDB: enter: panic [thread pid 0 tid 100000 ] Stopped at=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 kdb_enter+0x3d: = movq=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 $0,0x687f60(%rip) db> bt Tracing pid 0 tid 100000 td 0xffffffff80c11fe0 kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x3d panic() at panic+0x17b run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks() at run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks+0x= 117 mi_startup() at mi_startup+0x59 btext() at btext+0x2c db> Any help is appreciated !! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 13:31:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438721065672; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wael.nasreddine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464108FC16; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wael.nasreddine@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so577547bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9RIuXwqq75uYmZyfkLtFA+3mFXWLicfH4E2QYHSotqg=; b=gaNZHGK2EUbFg7FyOaKhKH7HpVYYymdvoFRgthYhuQHXPHIQeUWpkD+JcRNgFNhwz8 HyfBMesBzl5UevHD0i4/d5N2BVLvJF/w8NsYdOPkhLq5XIL3h5kJWQKbDERD8U8FdbZ1 mzSLVLRIwc1ZqEycJXSI39xl3SIEw6xfke0Lc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FKUvsYmsWp+bWkuxo+or1kWeimJAS4j92BvD5zuexiZNTDUzM8qsKy2sv/P59sSO/u KKzV6+HMI2Du6eCFyIaeNZ6+iO4YkFEI/v6NJEvEHClBRRFIrLC/B4NjhDIhB7ZtoLnH cagqbJbwCTP2I6IpR7oUfn9R50TE/FW2J7hKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wael.nasreddine@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.224.17 with SMTP id b17mr4685939mur.61.1248874260168; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:31:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Wael Nasreddine (a.k.a eMxyzptlk)" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:30:40 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0d0e094404196b19 Message-ID: To: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Can't boot 8-BETA2 on HP Pavilion dv7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:06 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to boot from 8-BETA2 DVD in order to install it on an HP Pavilion DV7-1199EF Laptop, but I get this error message: run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config This is repeated a few times then installation stops and debugging console opens, see below (typed by hand) panic: run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks: waited too long cpuid = 0 KDB: enter: panic [thread pid 0 tid 100000 ] Stopped at kdb_enter+0x3d: movq $0,0x687f60(%rip) db> bt Tracing pid 0 tid 100000 td 0xffffffff80c11fe0 kdb_enter() at kdb_enter+0x3d panic() at panic+0x17b run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks() at run_interrupt_driven_config_hooks+0x117 mi_startup() at mi_startup+0x59 btext() at btext+0x2c db> Any help is appreciated !! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 13:41:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9865C106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s16.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s16.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677628FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS3 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s16.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:41:14 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:40:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2009 13:41:14.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DED8760:01CA1052] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:41:16 -0000 Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the Sendmail banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root Version 8.14.2 Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ (short domain name) $w = banyan (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com (subdomain name) $m = ..com (node name) $k = banyan...com ======================================================== root... deliverable: mailer local, user root banyan# telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 +0800 (CST) ehlo localhost 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP The Sendmail test seems OK But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMTP Authentication Hi, I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in the functional server, but the other one has not. The maillog of functional server ====================== Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, relay=59-...net [59...147] The other one ========= Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. Please help or tip me for something I forget. Thank you! Reed _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 13:56:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAEB106568C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D958FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 12359 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2009 13:56:10 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jul 2009 13:56:10 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6A0BB5083A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:56:09 -0400 (EDT) To: thanos trompoukis References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:56:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: (thanos trompoukis's message of "Wed\, 29 Jul 2009 00\:26\:20 +0300") Message-ID: <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:11 -0000 thanos trompoukis writes: > I removed .Xauthority and I still have the same problem Then the error messages will have changed; look at the log again. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:21:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7D3106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: from k2smtpout01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B70D8FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: (qmail 30617 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2009 15:14:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO owa.webmail.maxiscale.com) (72.167.52.135) by k2smtpout01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.88) with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2009 15:14:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:19:49 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Diablo JDK threads implementation Thread-Index: AcoQX0wMTm+02060RNCtUxXAeAY6Aw== From: "Peter Steele" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Diablo JDK threads implementation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:21:57 -0000 We've developed a server platform around FreeBSD 7.0 consisting of several applications written in C and one primary application written in Java (JDK 1.6). We're seeing cases in some of ouor stress tests where some threads in our JAVA application appear to get no CPU time for extended periods of time (sometimes over a minute), even though the box has lots of idle time available and all of the C threads are running without a glitch. We thought originally it might be memory related and the GC was kicking in and freezing the JDK. That's not the case though, and in fact the memory footprint of the Java application is very small.=20 =20 I know I've read that some ports of Java do not always use native threads for the JDK thread model. Does anyone know the story with the Diablo JDK port? Is there another explanation what might be causing this problem? =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:24:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8681065670 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151A38FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so30053bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EVsAbwd0sb/WJYeFef3WkaJ3zVYEeNC9n11MBH4nKjc=; b=ly9ED0hGW0U01fq1wE+pFGomqo/94ubRUX1NDYeg4L5b10oBoEz24UDhzVgoeOhxqB wxyHeG7FQh4QhBALeUmG2hDPLLiSej/sFjeS2KKVDHL4Fu5Xa+rxqtfIAImQad5zVC87 zvdeKg4DZW6dgsO/VISBAaZYoAz3Kxq7yuoEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eq2PDnAxkqo811U9fjTzku4Hj5c1asL4IeK2C9+cBEz8qtvRJQETRvxV4SYdlvlsH/ Kx/tk585dV1sdT+Kd706+ZjQO7yniOZYTdxGqGU1ta3AmCdGe5QVQgo8G8oNGwPYvISZ VSQiZzrWHNmsv8I4r6RFAkGBHFvX3SvpRp52Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.107.1 with SMTP id j1mr4731867mum.9.1248881054182; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:24:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:24:14 +0300 Message-ID: From: thanos trompoukis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:16 -0000 It seems to be like an other desktop environment very simple. Now when I try startx I can see the same background I could see before but now there are 3 windows (x-term) like the console window on KDE 3.5 Why KDE not starts? 2009/7/29 Lowell Gilbert > thanos trompoukis writes: > > > I removed .Xauthority and I still have the same problem > > Then the error messages will have changed; look at the log again. > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:24:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9191065678 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apetar@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ED78FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apetar@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so182755eyd.7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:24:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4EBEZC19No0SxFkZDP6XIt/6p3lWrgxMHd0nMPcIB+w=; b=gs0B4mroYZrcBfUNpMCW8vL0mr1RKzhcI0icaZZ3yHXRmMiAEx1aOvcV8CMySPqHn0 AVtf3Tvk4RCU6VX/nQtJH5h5wihr30CMQXlyFljo6CxrWYXQbH5FHzHB0BWe4+IgTmM3 dqgOLqKaYb6cBzYt2W7Jhl9s+FOTlCrjJ4WGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=U2ujAoU93VbmkAFMKnC4xp7g979+YDAxIJdVae8kZIqlf/6FL74TBoa0Nm1NHByeOg 3r/FAsG6xOZ353B9oA0RXP3gASmgg/AkX++NF31X/gyiEwI//nXowMijg8ZHP+ReGZjl utejIxUKf5gtaNgWO466Z9VWNsL/jmIg+Y3bM= Received: by 10.210.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr60301ebc.96.1248879558017; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ([79.101.233.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm82863eyd.17.2009.07.29.07.59.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:59:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Predrag Aleksic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:47 +0200 Message-Id: <1248879527.21731.5.camel@overlord.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD-update fails finding upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:24:32 -0000 freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p2. Is that normal? I mean, there obviously seems to be a 7.2-RELEASE-p3 but then why isn't my system getting updated to that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:31:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A42106566C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED74D8FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so34748bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:31:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6V98sq40hXFtF2ZG9/ZZQ0fTFJX0YoNN7UHZm8IYofU=; b=eufPDG+FpPK0vXiDP52Cts4/pA+Nq1ubYXDZskrXCstkhIwY3SkAmpyq4tYfI1CWX5 cGHIDSsr6CClOYkzPIroSDuCreNb+AHzB4R6oHi9sjJFzjnGSvO4n3l6KdN7wbBbC6Xx 7pOnDLfVgYAVPpzy2kJOFlb10a0g5Nl5sACDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x4ij3eIvS7OLoLQv6EgUoqOoQUZ6OnpCB1k2FHcd4d3NIiwhAL6pFHRQSSvvqNlZPT L2NMj6OEoNzUuTNma0L597eBOXJS4EKDVxf2n49pcIYQLsxtaKwMGQxu7TbkSxJrKPJp YrI9WtFz6TqI4TRvlvy//HSoH7O9zHCp41qH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.123.141 with SMTP id p13mr4496803far.84.1248881511613; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:31:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1248879527.21731.5.camel@overlord.hopto.org> References: <1248879527.21731.5.camel@overlord.hopto.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:31:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907290831q1544510do97d8ee117fd7cd60@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Predrag Aleksic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update fails finding upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:31:53 -0000 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Predrag Aleksic wrote: > freebsd-update fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... > done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p2. > > > Is that normal? I mean, there obviously seems to be a 7.2-RELEASE-p3 but > then why isn't my system getting updated to that? > The patch version is only bumped when there is a change in the kernel. See also: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2009-03/msg00069.html -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:32:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059C6106566C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:32:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (77-99-36-42.cable.ubr04.chap.blueyonder.co.uk [77.99.36.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01238FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4845E34D462; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:15:54 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:15:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.2.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907291615.54235.david@vizion2000.net> Subject: What is Freebsd 7.2pX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:32:25 -0000 Where is information about 7.2pX to be found on freebsd.org? I am running freebsd 7.2 64 amd 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 version on Intel quad core and was advised to upgrade to 7.2pX but have not found about such a version from the web site and a google search for freebsd 7.2pX produces no documents. Thanks in advance David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:33:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20120106571A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6498FC27 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B751E340; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:33:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6TFX5N0002762; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:33:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:33:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: thanos trompoukis Message-Id: <20090729173305.a9e0f458.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:14 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:24:14 +0300, thanos trompoukis wrote: > It seems to be like an other desktop environment very simple. > Now when I try startx I can see the same background I could see before > but now there are 3 windows (x-term) like the console window on KDE 3.5 This is twm. It's a window manager displaying three xterms. It's not a desktop environment. > Why KDE not starts? Because... maybe you're missing the correct startup files. X display managers (xdm, kdm, gdm) and the startx command behave a bit differently. The easiest way to be able to use *any* method of starting is to have the following files in your home directory: 1. ~/.xsession #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc 1. ~/.xinitrc #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc # ... your further startup commands here, e. g. xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 & xset r rate 250 30 & xset s off & xset -dpms & # this starts your desired window manager / DE exec startkde Refer to the KDE documentation about what's the correct name to start KDE. I think it's "startkde", but I may be wrong because I am not using KDE, so it's honestly just a guess. Make sure that both files are +x attributes. % chmod +x .xinitrc .xsession -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:33:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E766910656E1 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F098FC25 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (mailhost2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6TFXiAd007394; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:33:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DE9461BE0BF; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB851BE0AE; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:33:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:33:11 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F25C@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Diablo JDK threads implementation Thread-Index: AcoQX0wMTm+02060RNCtUxXAeAY6AwAAldnw References: From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Peter Steele" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2009 15:33:43.0422 (UTC) FILETIME=[F48CC9E0:01CA1061] Cc: Subject: RE: Diablo JDK threads implementation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:33:56 -0000 For fun you could try mapping to a different thread library with libmap.conf -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Peter Steele Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:20 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Diablo JDK threads implementation We've developed a server platform around FreeBSD 7.0 consisting of several applications written in C and one primary application written in Java (JDK 1.6). We're seeing cases in some of ouor stress tests where some threads in our JAVA application appear to get no CPU time for extended periods of time (sometimes over a minute), even though the box has lots of idle time available and all of the C threads are running without a glitch. We thought originally it might be memory related and the GC was kicking in and freezing the JDK. That's not the case though, and in fact the memory footprint of the Java application is very small.=20 =20 I know I've read that some ports of Java do not always use native threads for the JDK thread model. Does anyone know the story with the Diablo JDK port? Is there another explanation what might be causing this problem? =20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:36:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE3510656E7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1898FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so1612928yxe.27 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HX8yrDcKRqY3RhH8xK6c5zEbe7wJKd4oBX+RcSHIEfg=; b=muywhjJbWiHsuzQbwVcesWChBpEGeLEzMvTo7OdzYi42AUF0qWQ+cbB9SJa1PXnLIw +zj2AsZFb4KxpqGbh8GBBWLxbbU7UfyQCBStlvWASsAs8uB7gObXRLqT4mEI5wsdrw0f tOkHXLBifAZl40y9/S7qlVJfk+9tHpgcqpkYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CJI8JNoSZiGGK6hCJlJz3OBJixQXJ07tVg8Dp/5/86v/J3s0oy2XduUbg8ppfRhPlY AgPpgdNIiTgLJEaR91a3wq1Ti0q5WM8KIbRdZ/vWoVC4huVwse7ipTUSWWrtmfX/3M5D T2ODIxTDq/RNFCVY0Xf1tp4iaA2bTmAnt2pHo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.80.18 with SMTP id d18mr8148393agb.104.1248879870721; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:04:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problem with Vim 7.2 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:36:36 -0000 I noticed today that Vim 7.2 had been updated, but when I tried to use portupgrade, there was an error at vim file 7.2.041. It seems there are no checksum files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:38:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3A810656F8 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B67B8FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so38944bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3MX8sobieNL4yWd566nLiCtxZwCufSdtjdnunasJrW8=; b=VGSEVsNJP+51zHmMGassNbtd5Ny92OfuO56NF99ISFp35PhqcJrnCCD3aY/hQcC4u3 vrqtyy5leuQBipFEPN3+UtgI/nRrcG0Ul8rDdh3tG4fuqesPXrcnRyL6FKlGOAKw6yGb eRsyXhQaR64cBAaFamYY6JbHWTpTAhMwfTHQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V9F21lG6mub/HoW50ebJMAFEEXI3aaVjGlfcN0dVmqcIsqHbbLLu1c2GyUssXhWrC3 VRc34uq21fcyD6hW6F93IPM0LuJ9Cb2l+HQ9p+QKnYV3u/QHfaYnq0SV0766hDo6aPk6 9t32+mgOKX2O0j/RLpyFt8JvIL0Pb7ztm0RsY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.12 with SMTP id g12mr4564499faq.92.1248881919991; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:38:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907291615.54235.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200907291615.54235.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:38:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907290838k3080e5bbo99ade39e9ad342ad@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: David Southwell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is Freebsd 7.2pX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:38:42 -0000 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM, David Southwell wro= te: > Where is information about 7.2pX to be found on freebsd.org? > > I am running freebsd 7.2 64 amd > > 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May =A01 07:18:07 UTC 2009 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0amd64 > > version on Intel quad core and was advised to upgrade to 7.2pX but have > not found about such a version from the web site and a google search for > freebsd 7.2pX produces no documents. > You probably mean 7.2-RELEASE-p2 You can update your system with freebsd-update(8), or csup(1) and rebuilding the base system. This is covered in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgradin= g.html --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:44:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D966C1065673 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF0B8FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (ppp-94-69-71-158.home.otenet.gr [94.69.71.158]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n6TFi31W015163; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:44:03 +0300 Message-ID: <4A706E43.4060509@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:44:03 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Southwell References: <200907291615.54235.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: <200907291615.54235.david@vizion2000.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is Freebsd 7.2pX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:44:06 -0000 David Southwell wrote: > Where is information about 7.2pX to be found on freebsd.org? > > I am running freebsd 7.2 64 amd > > 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > version on Intel quad core and was advised to upgrade to 7.2pX but have > not found about such a version from the web site and a google search for > freebsd 7.2pX produces no documents. > > Thanks in advance > > David > > 7.2-RELEASE-pX where X is a number representing the current patch level, for example 7.2-RELEASE-p2. When you are running a release version of FreeBSD, updates to the base system include only security and critical patches. You can get the current -p version by using the freebsd-update utility: # freebsd-update fetch install depending on whether a kernel update is included, a reboot may or may not be needed (it will be needed in your case). For more details about the different available versions of FreeBSD and the use of the freebsd-update utility, please read Handbook's Chapter 24, esp. section 24.2.2: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 15:49:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2D01065673 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apetar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FAA8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apetar@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so58360ewy.43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uRt3YqziN/TiKuIlwaBNwt3cu+YbvxPg0G6rjVbyh18=; b=eLUi2chKpMzo3wk+xSHPnFSH+VkxkhMGfApKsZuT++UgjC10iKixj0cVgJwynzIesR m2Mh3bLQU1SCKYctQTzUqc88ftVg2nRbyROcG4/f5sJ6omOIvFbqXyMoxVXNte54/257 nScsSsxgwnYykIfoB5Epyh8CIQzx0JghwU5y0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=U2VOfGhdTnX2G7Co/RXKSVeifG7QmEv9VV4gr67ng07NzuH7WFATQsgw4/aGfSI1xD GeB+ryYeUhL+sbZznBISiF1rYNSd9OzpWmK/mL/RNKCDiWYQ10sm34SnnNPg/hFXixeZ lyuBC/gqPc/4AguPNf3fuiP2q6+oWuYcgBIuA= Received: by 10.210.142.10 with SMTP id p10mr170828ebd.43.1248882590812; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ([79.101.233.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm685057eyb.12.2009.07.29.08.49.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Predrag Aleksic To: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <200907291136.15020.john@jnielsen.net> References: <1248879527.21731.5.camel@overlord.hopto.org> <4ad871310907290831q1544510do97d8ee117fd7cd60@mail.gmail.com> <200907291136.15020.john@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:49:30 +0200 Message-Id: <1248882570.23748.18.camel@overlord.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update fails finding upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:49:52 -0000 On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 11:36 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > On Wednesday 29 July 2009 11:31:51 Glen Barber wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Predrag Aleksic wrote: > > > freebsd-update fetch > > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > > > Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... > > > done. > > > Fetching metadata index... done. > > > Inspecting system... done. > > > Preparing to download files... done. > > > > > > No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p2. > > > > > > > > > Is that normal? I mean, there obviously seems to be a 7.2-RELEASE-p3 but > > > then why isn't my system getting updated to that? > > > > The patch version is only bumped when there is a change in the kernel. > > > > See also: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2009-03/msg00069. > >html > > Also see also > http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:12.bind.asc. And either > be patient or use one of the other methods mentioned to update: > > NOTE: Due to this issue being accidentally disclosed early, updated > binaries are yet not available via freebsd-update at the time this > advisory is being published. Email will be sent to the freebsd-security > mailing list when the binaries are available via freebsd-update. > > JN Didn't see that one coming... cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 16:09:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D26106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019428FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from jnielsen.socialserve.com (office.socialserve.com [208.60.89.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n6TFaLBc030063; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:36:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:36:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <1248879527.21731.5.camel@overlord.hopto.org> <4ad871310907290831q1544510do97d8ee117fd7cd60@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310907290831q1544510do97d8ee117fd7cd60@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907291136.15020.john@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Predrag Aleksic Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update fails finding upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:09:12 -0000 On Wednesday 29 July 2009 11:31:51 Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Predrag Aleksic wrote: > > freebsd-update fetch > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > > Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... > > done. > > Fetching metadata index... done. > > Inspecting system... done. > > Preparing to download files... done. > > > > No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p2. > > > > > > Is that normal? I mean, there obviously seems to be a 7.2-RELEASE-p3 but > > then why isn't my system getting updated to that? > > The patch version is only bumped when there is a change in the kernel. > > See also: > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2009-03/msg0006= 9. >html Also see also=20 http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-09:12.bind.asc. And eithe= r=20 be patient or use one of the other methods mentioned to update: NOTE: Due to this issue being accidentally disclosed early, updated binaries are yet not available via freebsd-update at the time this advisory is being published. =A0Email will be sent to the freebsd-security mailing list when the binaries are available via freebsd-update. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 16:16:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2B8106566C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dschulz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066588FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dschulz@gmail.com) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so1471457gxk.19 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:16:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sv0rEIsQz3VkmMwa8slqFI+elUYFJm+47vi9yBFlr08=; b=iXDEAyGAfRqH7U31tnc4kQY4ml2DPDkuwEDXKvAjePo5Kx3bmc9jNXA26B2g+Bsovs /sdCwqW6HIGzYqJK4oU6Rz97/baJ7lcKPlxzwTHBrjYlipXYlqa71XWx+SK1GaboUxNK A5h90vMFkq1eEUpJpf2rZm0bANVm9EQsoM8fM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cO/sEIDdHoE4pdUrIkA34m3pNhZZYmpDW5IA4hq+areB2Is6SwiHmTojn9LmJe2XRZ CCqdHY5iwa8RLpzWT85yTiHhsPwL9f8MGX2Wpa9zn+g+TS51i88IWLtihFcVDMAlFrEy Ps/66ybD6VtuYg0OO0XG/xUcPkKyVvlZoj2iQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.51.4 with SMTP id y4mr5473087agy.83.1248882276400; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:44:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:44:33 -0400 Message-ID: <47dcfe400907290844g454750a3q4469d942f548cb7a@mail.gmail.com> From: Diego Schulz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Problem with Vim 7.2 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:16:11 -0000 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Arthur Barlow wro= te: > I noticed today that Vim 7.2 had been updated, but when I tried to use > portupgrade, there was an error at vim file 7.2.041. =A0It seems there ar= e no > checksum files. I'm also having trouble upgrading my vim installation using portmaster. ---------------------------------------------------- ... ... =3D> SHA256 Checksum OK for vim/7.2.238. =3D> MD5 Checksum OK for vim/7.2.239. =3D> SHA256 Checksum OK for vim/7.2.239. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/vim-lite. =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for editors/vim-lite =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for vim-lite-7.2.209 failed =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update ---------------------------------------------------- Right now I'm running csup to update the ports, to see if the issue has been solved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 16:58:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B88106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B6568FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 67497 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2009 16:58:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:X-Virus-Status:X-Virus-Scanned:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0HFnvwWzmdJNwBVQFi0lc5AMcIBwK1FyOIWrddv//HIF1xVty7+ui51U/lkZyPUOOWJgyexkjmaSIz173wXUzYZy8Dvmk5g1Xrt6ycRjtdz/pxYlGMljYPjAkOedmgdgHqFyAUl706HOiuaXgMk+PbZM5/TjpNSnykfdmrtEvkc= ; Received: from c-76-23-177-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp101.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2009 09:58:11 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: 7ykrpGgVM1liob9CzYo2.0zYDbIO65EiuIsEszX2H8NLPUPms.8NJQF34Q2L.db6bGB93ZB2eLuO2JlcEQbMf2_uxBmuvADcLCdjVUvhtpMpBei3n6Z91uDA3_qW.Q_l.RCeb.3wzIn3MBnP7qnGd..gQsDwkvY9hyDXz7Hdf5CSdgja05oaH9Vqt6gwn4VRfJe31UIV13iBuCiZAd2ZxQpP83askBqlVoALGPSTTjbdDqFAwP81yeVsrF3IlsV5f3Vvsjtw3LrxL2fWss6Yzm.ZMzLTQyLi38jYpliu1YdVbjj.o881_yymdDxwAImHr2GZcmGp1C.lrf8tAmWLwyDZa9CJHc_nfA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8B6AB2287E for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:58:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:58:11 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090729125811.6966b575@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:13 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:56:09 -0400 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > thanos trompoukis writes: > > > I removed .Xauthority and I still have the same problem > > Then the error messages will have changed; look at the log again. If present, delete: ..ICEauthority ..Xauthority Check ownership on the Desktop/ directory if present as well as the .xinitrc file. In fact, most, if not all of the files in the $HOME directory should be owned by you. This definitely sounds like a permission/file ownership problem. As previously suggested, DO NOT run 'X' as a privileged user. You might want to post the contents of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to "http://www.pastebin.ca" so we can get a better idea of exactly what is happening. I might suggest that you reboot the machine before starting 'X' also. Perhaps some program is hanging up and causing the problem. Finally/ clean out your '/var/tmp' and '/tmp' directory before starting 'X'. there is always a possibility that something there has a permissions/file ownership problem. It can't hurt. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge. Paul Gauguin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 16:58:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF2310656E5 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com (mail-ew0-f223.google.com [209.85.219.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042258FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so112827ewy.36 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XaAud0yKeudAkulkvuBWSK97p5QaE4bzeLu1NNHoaSY=; b=yBH6Ozb3pgaIR9D5Wm91iLxAho0EEC78B1YRmiSEUg1VppRQKeq2ISS92BAosGm/Kw u5mClDqhILQ5sNGj/6FHArEdZs8KKIEL8Tip/chMWMtgQlix830FWJrtiehs+E1lPqHA 0Yldt96t5HPCOW5RPlVhR39etPBUDRerj0iQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=An9mkYEJ3UvfrZMNLJ8Kl61fY2iBk8JrDM7n3JgyTxtVVr3ZwKqKVn2sHEU3Ix4s3J ytn5CBG+Z6IgDBahGO7t65jBCg1D5a8mpXqx3zQZ5ZyI+8JLh1Hmux3yrVRBaCEre1r6 SdP9hMNZWE8c4KjpwVj1luaNiOUxYa9Uutvto= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.195.15 with SMTP id x15mr245561ebp.59.1248886699582; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:58:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Parallel debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:21 -0000 I'm programming a multithreaded scientific program using pthreads and c++. Currently The model is SMP, but may investigate MMP using MPI in the future. Can anyone suggest a good debugger and possibly an associated GUI? (E.g., gdb and ddd.) Along the same lines, are there any free solutions comparable in scope and/or quality to the TotalView set of debugging tools? TIA, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 17:19:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08B1106567E for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E5B8FC23 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 7931 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2009 17:19:13 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jul 2009 17:19:13 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E42FE5083C; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:19:11 -0400 (EDT) To: thanos trompoukis References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:19:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (thanos trompoukis's message of "Wed\, 29 Jul 2009 18\:24\:14 +0300") Message-ID: <44bpn39zlc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:19:15 -0000 thanos trompoukis writes: > It seems to be like an other desktop environment very simple. > Now when I try startx I can see the same background I could see before > but now there are 3 windows (x-term) like the console window on KDE 3.5 > > Why KDE not starts? Almost certainly because you didn't set it up to do so. Please read the documentation. E.g., http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 17:22:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D991065677 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from mail2.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E608FC27 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from asahi-net.jp (b150160.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [202.213.150.160]) by mail2.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979FF7816C; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:04:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:04:01 +0900 From: WATANABE Kazuhiro To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/21.3 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> Cc: Doug Poland Subject: Re: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:22:58 -0000 Hi. If you want to load the puc(4) driver as a loadable module, you should load the sio(4) or uart(4) driver module as well. But these drivers are included in the GENERIC kernel. So you should to remove sio(4) or uart(4) from the kernel and load it as a loadable module. The other solution is to builtin the puc(4) driver to the kernel. i.e.: sio(4) puc(4) status or uart(4) ---------------------------------------- module module work builtin builtin work builtin module not work <- current choice? module builtin not work ---------------------------------------- (module = loadable module, builtin = kernel builtin) Other modifications will not be needed for PCI multiport cards. At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to get a Moxa Technologies C168H/PCI 8-port mux card > working in 7.2-RELEASE(i386). > > I've recompiled a GENERIC kernel with > > options COM_MULTIPORT > > and loaded the puc(4) module. I don't have any new ttyd? or cuad? > devices in /dev. > > After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man sio(4) > talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my particular > hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. > > Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. > > > -- > Regards, > Doug --- WATANABE Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 17:34:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC94106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BC88FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNK00IU50AH6ZJ0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A7087FE.1080104@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:33:50 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: messed up upgrade 7.0 & 7.1 to 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:34:34 -0000 I have been struggling for about 4 days trying to prepare 2 computers to update to 7.2 with no success whatsoever. The more I read the instructions, the less I understand. And almost nothing works as it should Some background: I have been using FreeBSD as a LAN server (for files storage & web development/backup etc. and part desktop for more than 10 years. I have never had great success when it comes to installation but have managed to get it running and have even kept on v. 4.10 for archiving older sites I have had. The older methods of upgrading worked well enough even though they were somewhat lengthy. Last week I finally managed to set up an Acer Travelmate 4400 amd64 with FreeBSD 7.2 and even got everything right. For the first time I was able to get Flash & Shockwave to work on a FreeBSD installation. With a bit of help from this list. Thanks, guys. However, I have not been able to figure out how a custom kernel could be set up nor how the new modular system works. Haven't found any coherent explanations. But now I have the following problems: PROBLEM 1. I freebsd-update fetch did not get the security patches or whatever else it should - all I got was error: configuration file not found PROBLEM 2. There seems to be some confusion about how to update and keep current the ports - portsnap seems to work in concert with portversion; there are some problems when one uses portsnap as there are with cvsup. The two seem necessary since some errors inn installing cannot be handled by both... If, for example, it is necessary to delete the port completely and reinstall it, portsnap just does not do it. I does not see that the port direcotry is empty; cvsup does and fills it in so the error can be correcte and the port properly installed. And if you use cvsup and the try to update (portupgrade -af), the upgrading never stops... I just stopped it with ctl+c after more than 30 hours... it was getting ridiculous. The manual instructions say some like or can doe the portupgrade -af - but, frankly, it isn't clear on why it should or could be done? It implies it is a form of testing. Nonsense... the instructions are really not clear at all, at least for a dummy like me... (of course, my studies in English literature and philosophy don't qualify me for understanding anything, I guess...) PROBLEM 3. I always have been running with a custom kernel. So, to upgrade I am supposed to provide the GENERIC kernel in /boot. Ok, I went through that process as per manual instructions. Had to reboot as I needed to transfer some downloaded files from the 7.1 box to the 7.0 box for port upgrading. That was a mistake. Nothing indicated that I could not reboot without screwing things up... of course, I should have known better; but I'm prone to that kind of error. But I'm pretty sure that the automatic upgrade would not have worked anyway as it doesn't work on the machine with 7.0 installed. Booting on this 7.1 machine is now impossible. I tried to boot from the install CD but that only made it worse. As I understood the instruction it would upgrade the machine, but I understand now that it just doesn't work that way... it has to be upgraded from a 7.2 CD. That I don't have at the moment. So the boot now just says: Invalid format FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: - Now, what do I do? How can I fix this machine so I can either just boot and access my files or also upgrade to 7.2 (which was my original intent)? PROBLEM 4. The machine with 7.1 - after a complete ports upgrade, I tried # freebsd-update -r 7.2-RELEASE upgrade and I get the famous no configuration file found. Somehow, I don't recall that being indicated anywhere in the manual. Oh, I did read it... several times... and the more I read it, the more I didn't understand anything - from mergemaster to the configuration file to the modular kernels ... Maybe someone could explain to me just exaclty how is one supposed to deal with the upgrading and customizing the kernel. Should one (I) be simply using the GENERIC kernel and then expect the upgrading to be as simple as it seems to sound? And just what advantage (speed wise I suppose) is there to use the custom kernel? Maybe the easiest is to just install the 7.2 fresh; but that would take the fun out of beating my head against an already cracked wall for upgrading and would take probably as long to reinstall all the 644 or so programs. On the 7.1 machine, I don't really want to lose all the files I have on there... most have been saved and none are really that important... but "just in case". If this seems too long to post as is, perhaps I should break it up and make several posts? Please help, I am totally confused, disappointed and terribly distressed. But I still bear no love for that shitpile of MS. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 17:39:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFAC1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496568FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2009 13:39:27 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id LAH00986; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-19-25.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.19.25]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2009 13:38:39 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19056.35102.112484.337251@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:38:38 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: stepping through "make buildkernel" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:39:28 -0000 Is there a way to do "make buildkernel" one component at a time? (A pointer to any relevant documentation would suffice.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 17:41:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA7A106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7C38FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so127368fxm.36 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YllReUTOWqkqJAIeFctiOS5cXmO8dY46QJd7up2vRXc=; b=W2jBsIhZUxJ/6Tog9FH+u6yI7EK4bl98nh9ZN+cjUuHZfc3afeRdId6QpFeEQwDQjP kmZYpsfCbYroPaYLmEvKxAkij/0MkwD5RsDXj/oa8cc1IWNxFfE3ynqqZqsy8rlaTtpi 54+DEQKiHmU52wCxIZKp4OBG44G8Py6aabS6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BOV1FjYZpl3IZKIEFcET3u5I7vEWaGhh5AIYC/cgFzpG8AR5ARuij1mUSkHSDfvV7u wyPpndH/zVR5nKr/pVy2oeylmmckPYPDSVXa7UlxL/2CASo7IGc/xIcrExZeAUarBoKA 2MfVP/LldwAf14qqtXyLeshwGC+cslSydnQis= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.168.12 with SMTP id v12mr49923muo.16.1248889266184; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:41:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44bpn39zlc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44bpn39zlc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:41:06 +0300 Message-ID: From: thanos trompoukis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:41:07 -0000 Ok, thanks! Finaly figured it out. It was missing .xsession and I create it. Anyway Thank you very much for your help. Thanx! 2009/7/29 Lowell Gilbert > thanos trompoukis writes: > > > It seems to be like an other desktop environment very simple. > > Now when I try startx I can see the same background I could see before > > but now there are 3 windows (x-term) like the console window on KDE 3.5 > > > > Why KDE not starts? > > Almost certainly because you didn't set it up to do so. > Please read the documentation. E.g., > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 17:48:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A486106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79E98FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975D91E274 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:48:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6THm4C1003260 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:48:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:48:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20090729194803.8742e0bc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4463dcg86r.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <441vo0o9ap.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44ocr3a8zq.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20090729173305.a9e0f458.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: problem with startx..! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:12 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:04:23 +0300, thanos trompoukis wrote: > The .xinitrc exists and contains this: startkde This should be okay for the "startx" command, but display managers such as xdm and kdm aren't interested in it. > The .xsession does not exists. This file is needed for display managers. > What am I suppose to do now? > I have no Idea. It's quite easy. Create or modify so you have this: 1. ~/.xsession #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc This assumes that your shell is the C shell, FreeBSD's standard dialog shell. This file is used by the display managers, such as xdm. It sources your user's C shell settings from .cshrc so you have these settings in X when, for example, you're starting an X terminal. Then it continues running as .xinitrc ("exec" statement). 2. ~/.xinitrc #!/bin/sh exec startkde This file is used when giving the "startx" command from the text mode console or executed after login by a display manager, such as xdm. It continues running as the "startkde" command, which is supposed to launch your KDE session. After creating the files, run % chmod +x .xinitrc .xsession Now you can % startx to start X and KDE, or use xdm or kdm - no matter which solution you use, the config files are prepared to cope with both situations. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 18:52:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA791065675 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FD38FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6TIqRH4023887; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:52:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 93CA0BAA7; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:52:27 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090729185227.GA98723@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A7087FE.1080104@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A7087FE.1080104@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messed up upgrade 7.0 & 7.1 to 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:52:30 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:33:50PM -0400, PJ wrote: > I have been struggling for about 4 days trying to prepare 2 computers to > update to 7.2 with no success whatsoever. > The more I read the instructions, the less I understand. > And almost nothing works as it should > Some background: > I have been using FreeBSD as a LAN server (for files storage & web > development/backup etc. and part desktop for more than 10 years. I have > never had great success when it comes to installation but have managed > to get it running and have even kept on v. 4.10 for archiving older > sites I have had. > The older methods of upgrading worked well enough even though they were > somewhat lengthy. > Last week I finally managed to set up an Acer Travelmate 4400 amd64 with > FreeBSD 7.2 and even got everything right. For the first time I was able > to get Flash & Shockwave to work on a FreeBSD installation. > With a bit of help from this list. Thanks, guys. > However, I have not been able to figure out how a custom kernel could be > set up nor how the new modular system works. Haven't found any coherent > explanations. >=20 > But now I have the following problems: > PROBLEM 1. I freebsd-update fetch did not get the security patches or > whatever else it should - all I got was error: configuration file not fou= nd Does /etc/freebsd-update.conf exist? =20 > PROBLEM 2. There seems to be some confusion about how to update and keep > current the ports - portsnap seems to work in concert with portversion; > there are some problems when one uses portsnap as there are with cvsup. > The two seem necessary since some errors inn installing cannot be > handled by both... > If, for example, it is necessary to delete the port completely and > reinstall it, portsnap just does not do it. I does not see that the port > direcotry is empty; cvsup does and fills it in so the error can be > correcte and the port properly installed. Portsnap only updates the ports tree (the directories under /usr/ports), not the installed ports themselves. You'll need either /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade or /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster to keep installed ports up to date. I prefer portmaster since it doesn't depend on a separate database as portupgrade does. Depending on how long it has been since you've updated your ports and the speed of your machine, updates can indeed take a long time. You could choose to use pre-built packages instead of compiling from source, to speed things up. > PROBLEM 3. I always have been running with a custom kernel. So, to > upgrade I am supposed to provide the GENERIC kernel in /boot. Ok, I went > through that process as per manual instructions.=20 Did you check that the GENERIC kernel that you built was installed as /boot/kernel/kernel? > Had to reboot as I needed to transfer some downloaded files from the > 7.1 box to the 7.0 box for port upgrading. It is unclear to me why you should have to reboot to transfer files... If you want to e.g. connect two machines with an ethernet cable, are you aware that you can use the scripts in /etc/rc.d to stop and restart networking? And why not just transfer files with a USB thumbdrive? > That was a mistake. Nothing indicated that I could > not reboot without screwing things up... of course, I should have known > better; but I'm prone to that kind of error. But I'm pretty sure that > the automatic upgrade would not have worked anyway as it doesn't work on > the machine with 7.0 installed. Without a more thorough description of the steps that you followed, there is not really a lot others can do to help you. From your description it is totally unclear what has gone wrong. > Booting on this 7.1 machine is now impossible. I tried to boot from the > install CD but that only made it worse. As I understood the instruction > it would upgrade the machine, but I understand now that it just doesn't > work that way... it has to be upgraded from a 7.2 CD. That I don't have > at the moment. > So the boot now just says: > Invalid format > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel > boot: > - Type ? at the boot prompt to see a list of files in the root directory of the default boot device. Read the boot(8) manual page. It could be that something went wrong with your disk. Mabye the slices or partitions were deleted. > PROBLEM 4. The machine with 7.1 - after a complete ports upgrade, I tried > # freebsd-update -r 7.2-RELEASE upgrade > and I get the famous no configuration file found. Does this configuration file (see above) exist?=20 > Somehow, I don't recall that being indicated anywhere in the manual. Oh, > I did read it... several times... and the more I read it, the more I > didn't understand anything - from mergemaster to the configuration file > to the modular kernels ... > Maybe someone could explain to me just exaclty how is one supposed to > deal with the upgrading and customizing the kernel. Should one (I) be > simply using the GENERIC kernel and then expect the upgrading to be as > simple as it seems to sound? If you want a custom kernel, I find it more convenient to upgrade from source.=20 > And just what advantage (speed wise I suppose) is there to use the > custom kernel? A custom kernel will save some boot time because it doesn't probe for devices that aren't built-in or loaded as modules. There are some things (options) in the kernel that you cannot load as modul= es, they need to be compiled in. E.g. the scheduler, or if you want to use device polling instead of interrupts. See e.g. /sys/i386/conf/NOTES for options and devices that are not part of the GENERIC kernel. > Maybe the easiest is to just install the 7.2 fresh; but that would take > the fun out of beating my head against an already cracked wall for > upgrading and would take probably as long to reinstall all the 644 or so > programs. I don't think you have to reinstall all programs. Just restore /usr/local and /var/db/pkg from backup. You did make a full backup before trying to upgrade, I hope? If not, I trust you remember to do so in the future... Contrary to what the handbook says, you do not always have to reinstall all ports when updating the system. It is definitely necessary when updating to another major version (6.x -> 7.x), but when updating to another minor version (7.1 -> 7.2) it is usually not necessary (unless /usr/src/UPDATING says differently).=20 > On the 7.1 machine, I don't really want to lose all the files I have on > there... most have been saved and none are really that important... but > "just in case". Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is why you should make regular backups of all your important data.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpwmmsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWdCQCfYegO7szw9aZlVh9uZr/Qr8+k QT4AoI0jgGNi1O1pnwjRZ037yGIMwMjX =n0uR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 18:57:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4521065673 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E578FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 3519 invoked by uid 399); 29 Jul 2009 18:57:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 29 Jul 2009 18:57:07 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:57:05 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:57:10 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked >> for me. > > As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, > and probably a ports bug. I'm not sure why 'make clean' is nonintuitive in the context of changing OPTIONS. What is your expectation of how it should work? Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 19:08:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C88C1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A978FC24 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNK009854NK2QE0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A709E2F.7000803@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:08:31 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A7087FE.1080104@videotron.ca> <20090729185227.GA98723@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090729185227.GA98723@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messed up upgrade 7.0 & 7.1 to 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:44 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:33:50PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I have been struggling for about 4 days trying to prepare 2 computers to >> update to 7.2 with no success whatsoever. >> The more I read the instructions, the less I understand. >> And almost nothing works as it should >> Some background: >> I have been using FreeBSD as a LAN server (for files storage & web >> development/backup etc. and part desktop for more than 10 years. I have >> never had great success when it comes to installation but have managed >> to get it running and have even kept on v. 4.10 for archiving older >> sites I have had. >> The older methods of upgrading worked well enough even though they were >> somewhat lengthy. >> Last week I finally managed to set up an Acer Travelmate 4400 amd64 with >> FreeBSD 7.2 and even got everything right. For the first time I was able >> to get Flash & Shockwave to work on a FreeBSD installation. >> With a bit of help from this list. Thanks, guys. >> However, I have not been able to figure out how a custom kernel could be >> set up nor how the new modular system works. Haven't found any coherent >> explanations. >> >> But now I have the following problems: >> PROBLEM 1. I freebsd-update fetch did not get the security patches or >> whatever else it should - all I got was error: configuration file not found >> > > Does /etc/freebsd-update.conf exist? > > >> PROBLEM 2. There seems to be some confusion about how to update and keep >> current the ports - portsnap seems to work in concert with portversion; >> there are some problems when one uses portsnap as there are with cvsup. >> The two seem necessary since some errors inn installing cannot be >> handled by both... >> If, for example, it is necessary to delete the port completely and >> reinstall it, portsnap just does not do it. I does not see that the port >> direcotry is empty; cvsup does and fills it in so the error can be >> correcte and the port properly installed. >> > > Portsnap only updates the ports tree (the directories under /usr/ports), > not the installed ports themselves. You'll need either > /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade or /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster to > keep installed ports up to date. I prefer portmaster since it doesn't > depend on a separate database as portupgrade does. Depending on how long > it has been since you've updated your ports and the speed of your > machine, updates can indeed take a long time. You could choose to use > pre-built packages instead of compiling from source, to speed things up. > > >> PROBLEM 3. I always have been running with a custom kernel. So, to >> upgrade I am supposed to provide the GENERIC kernel in /boot. Ok, I went >> through that process as per manual instructions. >> > > Did you check that the GENERIC kernel that you built was installed as > /boot/kernel/kernel? > > >> Had to reboot as I needed to transfer some downloaded files from the >> 7.1 box to the 7.0 box for port upgrading. >> > > It is unclear to me why you should have to reboot to transfer > files... If you want to e.g. connect two machines with an ethernet > cable, are you aware that you can use the scripts in /etc/rc.d to stop > and restart networking? > > And why not just transfer files with a USB thumbdrive? > > >> That was a mistake. Nothing indicated that I could >> not reboot without screwing things up... of course, I should have known >> better; but I'm prone to that kind of error. But I'm pretty sure that >> the automatic upgrade would not have worked anyway as it doesn't work on >> the machine with 7.0 installed. >> > > Without a more thorough description of the steps that you followed, > there is not really a lot others can do to help you. From your > description it is totally unclear what has gone wrong. > > >> Booting on this 7.1 machine is now impossible. I tried to boot from the >> install CD but that only made it worse. As I understood the instruction >> it would upgrade the machine, but I understand now that it just doesn't >> work that way... it has to be upgraded from a 7.2 CD. That I don't have >> at the moment. >> So the boot now just says: >> Invalid format >> FreeBSD/i386 boot >> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel >> boot: >> - >> > > Type ? at the boot prompt to see a list of files in the root directory > of the default boot device. Read the boot(8) manual page. > > It could be that something went wrong with your disk. Mabye the slices > or partitions were deleted. > > >> PROBLEM 4. The machine with 7.1 - after a complete ports upgrade, I tried >> # freebsd-update -r 7.2-RELEASE upgrade >> and I get the famous no configuration file found. >> > > Does this configuration file (see above) exist? > > >> Somehow, I don't recall that being indicated anywhere in the manual. Oh, >> I did read it... several times... and the more I read it, the more I >> didn't understand anything - from mergemaster to the configuration file >> to the modular kernels ... >> Maybe someone could explain to me just exaclty how is one supposed to >> deal with the upgrading and customizing the kernel. Should one (I) be >> simply using the GENERIC kernel and then expect the upgrading to be as >> simple as it seems to sound? >> > > If you want a custom kernel, I find it more convenient to upgrade from > source. > > >> And just what advantage (speed wise I suppose) is there to use the >> custom kernel? >> > > A custom kernel will save some boot time because it doesn't probe for > devices that aren't built-in or loaded as modules. > > There are some things (options) in the kernel that you cannot load as modules, > they need to be compiled in. E.g. the scheduler, or if you want to use > device polling instead of interrupts. See e.g. /sys/i386/conf/NOTES for > options and devices that are not part of the GENERIC kernel. > > >> Maybe the easiest is to just install the 7.2 fresh; but that would take >> the fun out of beating my head against an already cracked wall for >> upgrading and would take probably as long to reinstall all the 644 or so >> programs. >> > > I don't think you have to reinstall all programs. Just restore > /usr/local and /var/db/pkg from backup. You did make a full backup > before trying to upgrade, I hope? If not, I trust you remember to do so > in the future... > > Contrary to what the handbook says, you do not always have to reinstall > all ports when updating the system. It is definitely necessary when > updating to another major version (6.x -> 7.x), but when updating to > another minor version (7.1 -> 7.2) it is usually not necessary (unless > /usr/src/UPDATING says differently). > > >> On the 7.1 machine, I don't really want to lose all the files I have on >> there... most have been saved and none are really that important... but >> "just in case". >> > > Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is why you should make > regular backups of all your important data. > > Roland > Thanks for the response, Rolland, I think I have unraveled this stuff a bit. I haven't checked for the config file yet as I am using the MS portion of this machine. I think I can fix the 7.1 machine with a boot disk for 7.2. That is what is not very clear in the manual. I now see that before you do the upgrade (that is, BEFORE) you have to cvsup the 7.2 release ports and sources. I tried to upgrade the 7.1 from a 7.1 disk... so now, I'll try with the 7.2. I generally lilke to do my updates over the net and not from the disk and I assume (falsely, I see now) that the idea of upgrade is not programmed into the manual or the files to mean from a lower branch to a higher one... :'( Anyway, I think I'll be allright... Will repost if I solve this thing. PJ -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 19:33:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4998A106564A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0667D8FC14; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133DB7E818; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:33:36 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:33:34 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907291133.35055.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , ports@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:37 -0000 On Wednesday 29 July 2009 10:57:05 Doug Barton wrote: > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > >> I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked > >> for me. > > > > As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, > > and probably a ports bug. > > I'm not sure why 'make clean' is nonintuitive in the context of > changing OPTIONS. What is your expectation of how it should work? What he means is that make without arguments or make install as per handbook, will build the build target which will invoke the config target if OPTIONS changed or no options file is found. However, this is a corner case, as it applies to: - Ports that change PREFIX using OPTIONS - For which no options file is available or the OPTIONS list has changed - When the PREFIX is actually changed through toggling the appropriate option. This applies surely to less then 100 (probably more like a dozen) ports on the 18k that are in the tree and only affects people who do not use ports-mgmt software. As such it is not worth fixing, IMHO. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 19:35:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78B710656C5 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870748FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWEw1-0006jL-6O; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:39 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MWEw0-0004CY-DE; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:32 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6TJZWLP058380; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6TJZWjK058379; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:35:32 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: gahr@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090729193532.GA58354@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: port lang/g95 installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:35:41 -0000 this is a regression after some recent port updates, on 7.2-stable, 8.0-current and 8.0-beta2 port lang/g95 gives: % g95 g95: installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file or directory I updated g95 with portmaster, so all dependencies should've been followed. What is this f951? many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 19:43:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915AE106566B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from server2.hostmailing.com (server2.hostmailing.com [200.110.145.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F738FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com ([200.110.145.34] helo=www.hostmailing.com) by server2.hostmailing.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MWEE3-0000WC-BS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:50:14 -0300 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:40:49 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pablo Villarroya Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: wh4535 [version 3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Innovative Datalogger with Wireless Communication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: exemys@exemys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:43:19 -0000 This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 19:57:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2793C1065676 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ekarkkai@pp.htv.fi) Received: from smtp6.welho.com (smtp6.welho.com [213.243.153.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED528FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ekarkkai@pp.htv.fi) Received: from zero.my.domain (cs181103178.pp.htv.fi [82.181.103.178]) by smtp6.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C23E5BC03A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:29:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from thunderbolt.my.domain (thunderbolt.my.domain [10.192.168.30]) by zero.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6TJT66w093879 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:29:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ekarkkai@pp.htv.fi) Received: from thunderbolt.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunderbolt.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6TJT6w2013579 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:29:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ejk@thunderbolt.my.domain) Received: (from ejk@localhost) by thunderbolt.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6TJT61t013578 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:29:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ejk) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:29:06 +0300 From: Esa Karkkainen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090729192906.GB8214@pp.htv.fi> Mail-Followup-To: Esa Karkkainen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47dcfe400907290844g454750a3q4469d942f548cb7a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47dcfe400907290844g454750a3q4469d942f548cb7a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Problem with Vim 7.2 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:57:32 -0000 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:44:33AM -0400, Diego Schulz wrote: > Right now I'm running csup to update the ports, to see if the issue > has been solved. Probably not yet. You can fix this particular error by editing /usr/ports/editors/vim/distinfo file with your favourite editor or run the two following commands as root # cd /usr/ports/editors/vim # sed -I .orig -e 's/7\.2\.041%/7.2.041^/' distinfo -- "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams 1952 - 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 20:07:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F360A106566B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B988FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 30791 invoked by uid 399); 29 Jul 2009 20:07:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 29 Jul 2009 20:07:18 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A70ABF4.9090906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:07:16 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> <200907291133.35055.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200907291133.35055.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org, "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:07:22 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 29 July 2009 10:57:05 Doug Barton wrote: >> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >>>> I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked >>>> for me. >>> As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, >>> and probably a ports bug. >> I'm not sure why 'make clean' is nonintuitive in the context of >> changing OPTIONS. What is your expectation of how it should work? > > What he means is that make without arguments or make install as per handbook, > will build the build target which will invoke the config target if OPTIONS > changed or no options file is found. In the original post the build was already done, but it had been done with a different set of OPTIONS choices. My question is, why is running 'make clean' in the scenario of: 1. build 2. change options [make clean should happen here] 3. install not intuitive? > However, this is a corner case, as it applies to: > - Ports that change PREFIX using OPTIONS > - For which no options file is available or the OPTIONS list has changed > - When the PREFIX is actually changed through toggling the appropriate option. > > This applies surely to less then 100 (probably more like a dozen) ports on the > 18k that are in the tree and only affects people who do not use ports-mgmt > software. As such it is not worth fixing, IMHO. Forget this particular problem, you're right that the fact that the ports system doesn't know how to deal with an obsoleted build-cookie actually is a corner case. My concern is the general user expectation of what should happen in this scenario. If it's generally expected that magic should happen if a users changes OPTIONS after building the port we need to make that magic happen. Otherwise people will be installing things that are not built the way that they think they are. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 20:25:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46F91065673 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6EE8FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090729202541416.UPAY17500@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com>; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:25:41 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6TKPY82070427; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:25:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 209.103.197.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:25:35 -0500 Message-ID: <6579ba376a1ddbe9c4edc1e0d750bdc3.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:25:35 -0500 From: "Doug Poland" To: "WATANABE Kazuhiro" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Doug Poland , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:25:43 -0000 On Wed, July 29, 2009 12:04, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: > > At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, > Doug Poland wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm trying to get a Moxa Technologies C168H/PCI 8-port mux card >> working in 7.2-RELEASE(i386). >> >> I've recompiled a GENERIC kernel with >> >> options COM_MULTIPORT >> >> and loaded the puc(4) module. I don't have any new ttyd? or cuad? >> devices in /dev. >> >> After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man sio(4) >> talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my particular >> hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. >> >> Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. >> >> > Hi. > > If you want to load the puc(4) driver as a loadable module, you should > load the sio(4) or uart(4) driver module as well. But these drivers > are included in the GENERIC kernel. So you should to remove sio(4) or > uart(4) from the kernel and load it as a loadable module. > > The other solution is to builtin the puc(4) driver to the > kernel. i.e.: > > sio(4) puc(4) status > or uart(4) > ---------------------------------------- > module module work > builtin builtin work > builtin module not work <- current choice? > module builtin not work > ---------------------------------------- > (module = loadable module, builtin = kernel builtin) > > Other modifications will not be needed for PCI multiport cards. > I removed devices sio and uart from my kernel, loaded them as modules in /boot/loader.conf, and now I have 8 additional cuad? devices! Many thanks for your help. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 20:26:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE3B106567B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rafairbanks@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB858FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rafairbanks@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so540108qwe.7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:26:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=g6ghfD9fk3LJWBhZRGINkBmFtSzByfKb5nBOPYsDRLA=; b=LlFjTIpeXtou2aCGAXBOLn3Ix80BDTabww4fkyidokZSd+tqODj/2m5zeNm9nLwMVy gNfA4wIl5Ok6DuDoxHNiGo5grszaFS86cyNXTQpQ97g8YKCSjwa9ex8JJeew2zU8r5RD fPTugAXPm5WQPWICCfoe++hAk+i4Jh4z+kZbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hNbT2uzOVkloInHAGF2XKVQvAD/y9wHS6h784bJeF/+ZCaLy4zrmajphQwMfwXXcKm Znyd2gg+rxAdLNBdrcF/sgBx1lUT2sf8JCzYFLimUXTvNeKIt3hloL9BTfoTzbLeTs9Z 08PpF+iYixWkIgB1jx45dINIqpxLzcCZbZ/pY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.76.21 with SMTP id a21mr408373vck.0.1248897282218; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:54:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: Richard Fairbanks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Striping a live file system RAID 10 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:26:50 -0000 OK, so this is what I want to do. I have 4 big fast drives that I want to run in RAID 10 (1+0). So, I'll need to mirror two sets of two disks, then stripe those two mirrors. So, how do I do this if I want this striped set of mirrors to be my entire fs? I can create both mirrors and have the entire fs on one of the mirrors (*mirror0*), but then I need to stripe it with the other mirrors (*mirror1*), and trying to create a stripe (*stripe*) from that a set of mirrors in which one of the mirrors contains the live file system does not work, obviously. I was thinking, very generally, of creating the fstab file that I'll need to point to the stripe instead of ad4 for example, rsyncing everything to a disk on a diffferent server, using a live CD to create the stripe, then rsyncing back to the stripe. I don't know if this will work, and haven't even come to a conclusion of the particulars needed. Of course, if there is a way to create the striped set off mirrors before installation then installing onto that stripe, that'd be perfect. I don't know if that can be done. I'm sure someone has configured a RAID 10 "standalone" system before. (Oh, I'm using 7.2). I'm just stuck at this point! Thanks for any and all help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 20:36:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C45310656AA; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113028FC19; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6TKaEWP091431 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:36:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 prime.gushi.org n6TKaEWP091431 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1248898017; bh=5dqH1zjgmDnRYTdGSCDy9uWHZhKkFfR8yGhesybMj9A=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HZ1HYsqylOoDMIDRmvVdRY4EqqrpbyXftuLJkGoFcsAq3P3ao7vXktKgLydqup/S4 e6M4zYjnWqMWRSlIpnOqA== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org n6TKaEWP091431 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=s+x+RbKLJdW5yJnWCuEdVkWRcW+ejo7tY/PyFuqTYm7wXQ2MmHTE0mNrOLvktVCcQ W5pp6t2Jt2rKDzBTsAh5A== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6TJvRRG077165; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:57:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:57:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:36:22 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Doug Barton wrote: > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > >>> I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked >>> for me. >> >> As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, >> and probably a ports bug. > > I'm not sure why 'make clean' is nonintuitive in the context of > changing OPTIONS. What is your expectation of how it should work? The fact that the error occurs AT ALL is the bug and what is counterintuitive, and many people would not think to try typing "make" again, and instead would just assume the thing's broken. (See previously referenced email) Make clean isn't solving the problem, but I can see how you're getting that thought. The problem only occurs on a virgin, untouched, un-configged port. The solution to the problem in this case is to just re-run make. There's nothing to CLEAN, since you haven't made yet. The reason it seems like make clean fixes it may also because make clean does not do a make rmconfig: when I do an rmconfig I can successfully duplicate this problem, however: Running make config then make: fine Running just make, with no config: this error. Thoughts? -- "If you aren't going to try something, then we might as well just be friends." "We can't have that now, can we?" -SK & Dan Mahoney, December 9, 1998 --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 20:41:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77CA10656C2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908268FC23; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6TKf0dF093274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:41:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 prime.gushi.org n6TKf0dF093274 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1248898301; bh=P5UtuoMxuL1VIlUAYDqFKYiQOV7etKqXfLjitGUat7I=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z82TzZgg6Ky2pU1BaDY5n4Gcco4TLw26WQYYNdf1+/L9auZiT/Hxs4LzltqdA75Jp LVj05X8iui1+dx+yH80LA== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org n6TKf0dF093274 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=NdGlXXxIh3K2tHXRiJP5o1NtDlwqWbGUMz0LICP/kszDIMrjqq3saMWS3RhgLBJaw +ojYLxsiWtQJ+W/zQx2hg== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6TKexS2093271; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:40:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:40:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4A70ABF4.9090906@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> <200907291133.35055.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A70ABF4.9090906@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:41:05 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Doug Barton wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: >> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 10:57:05 Doug Barton wrote: >>> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >>>>> I believe Mel is right here. 'make clean ; make config ; make' worked >>>>> for me. >>>> As does a second make after getting this error, but it's nonintuitive, >>>> and probably a ports bug. >>> I'm not sure why 'make clean' is nonintuitive in the context of >>> changing OPTIONS. What is your expectation of how it should work? >> >> What he means is that make without arguments or make install as per handbook, >> will build the build target which will invoke the config target if OPTIONS >> changed or no options file is found. > > In the original post the build was already done, but it had been done > with a different set of OPTIONS choices. My question is, why is > running 'make clean' in the scenario of: > 1. build > 2. change options > [make clean should happen here] > 3. install > > not intuitive? Because in my case, the thing was already "clean" beforehand? Two systems, one 6.4-PRERELEASE (6.4 release, really, it missed the release date by hours), the other 6.4-STABLE. Both exhibit this with a ports tree cvsupped hours before this report. make clean (or even make distclean), make rmconfig, then make still gives me this issue. "run clean after changing options" is intuitive and is common sense, yes. "run clean after running config and before building code that you haven't built before" does not make sense. On a virgin port, you are thrown into the options screen by default unless you have BATCH set. That's the counterintuitive part. -Dan -- "Happy, Sad, Happy, Sad, Happy, Sad, Happy, Intruiged! I've never been so in touch with my emotions!" -AndrAIa as Hexadecimal, Reboot Episode 3.2.3 --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 21:02:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCD51065670 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dschulz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f199.google.com (mail-yx0-f199.google.com [209.85.210.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657068FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dschulz@gmail.com) Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so2023406yxe.7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G9jD+vRvwgqj0KGlZmjVDQNXusBHB9KvGDm5nU6qXHg=; b=MvgrTHgNuxoS9Ld19t8rKYWpKc/YvDSNxncmt3V2LOIr7yj8x32dafoC0StJXC8SRR heDGGO8nhQZEeLPtMqJGegxB5Km5V0FzubVIsNwF7isEG+m6/tGVlsb/6pYn0LvVqgxr dyuEkc6YKlwTGVSmQdw6Z57afdeR7bcnwxr/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v9q9WJZ53w67HwGEE3lCsFVrI1V2m01kotZaQ81VWSc4LoP3quvQufAUJkhzlkcKJ1 HkyZPOKV9h6mIEWbr1Fvayq0AfqnVFIo88qeObY2ZyoTnRW6xJP2tYZf6EbqqEPlUv5+ skz2YtyEveb+Ym9qXVO+m805QtrMHTHIzWvA4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.209.5 with SMTP id h5mr366818ang.124.1248901368665; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090729192906.GB8214@pp.htv.fi> References: <47dcfe400907290844g454750a3q4469d942f548cb7a@mail.gmail.com> <20090729192906.GB8214@pp.htv.fi> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:02:48 -0400 Message-ID: <47dcfe400907291402q7e2209b8uf2a3abc77da49acb@mail.gmail.com> From: Diego Schulz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problem with Vim 7.2 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:02:51 -0000 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Esa Karkkainen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:44:33AM -0400, Diego Schulz wrote: >> Right now I'm running csup to update the ports, to see if the issue >> has been solved. > > Probably not yet. You can fix this particular error by editing > /usr/ports/editors/vim/distinfo file with your favourite editor or run > the two following commands as root > > # cd /usr/ports/editors/vim > # sed -I .orig -e 's/7\.2\.041%/7.2.041^/' distinfo > Edited distinfo by hand, and replaced % by ^ to match the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim/7.2.041^ Thank you Esa. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 21:25:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F93106566B for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D938FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 5894 invoked by uid 399); 29 Jul 2009 21:25:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 29 Jul 2009 21:25:43 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4A70BE55.60405@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:25:41 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:25:46 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > The fact that the error occurs AT ALL is the bug and what is > counterintuitive, and many people would not think to try typing "make" > again, and instead would just assume the thing's broken. Ok, I actually misunderstood the problem that you were reporting. I thought that the reference to .build_done.bind96._usr_local indicated that the port had already been built once, but that is not the case. To reproduce the bug, you need to do the following: 1. Make sure there is nothing in /var/db/ports/bind96 2. cd /usr/ports/dns/bind96 3. make 4. Enable the "replace base" option 5. Save the config You will then see the following error: make: don't know how to make /usr/local/tmp/usr/local/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. Stop *** Error code 2 I think Mel is right that the problem is changing PREFIX, but that's the whole purpose of the option. Could you please open a PR about this with a subject something to the effect of "OPTIONS that change PREFIX cause an error after 'make config'" and describe how to reproduce this? Thanks, Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 21:52:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453AE106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enews@omegaworldclass.org) Received: from mailx1-10.csloxinfo.com (mailx1-10.csloxinfo.com [58.137.249.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53CD8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enews@omegaworldclass.org) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhI7ACJhcEp9GSWN/2dsb2JhbACBMnkSEgYhgl2BMymIfT6IDbsXhBEF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,290,1246813200"; d="scan'208,217";a="100132747" Received: from 125.25.37.141.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net (HELO SERVER) ([125.25.37.141]) by smtpm-1.csloxinfo.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2009 04:52:54 +0700 From: Customer Insights To: Message-Id: <20090730045246.416772109@omegaworldclass.org> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:52:46 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 'Mastering Customer Insights & Superior Marketing Strategies" Workshop 2009, 2 September @ Conrad Hotel, Bangkok X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: enews@omegaworldclass.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:52:56 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 29 22:09:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765CE106564A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AA98FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6TM9B74059803; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:09:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 11E98BA8A; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:09:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:09:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Daniel Underwood Message-ID: <20090729220911.GA656@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parallel debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:09:13 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:58:19PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > I'm programming a multithreaded scientific program using pthreads and > c++. Currently The model is SMP, but may investigate MMP using MPI in > the future. Can anyone suggest a good debugger and possibly an > associated GUI? (E.g., gdb and ddd.) Both gdb and ddd can in principle be used with multithreaded programs. IMHO there is no good way to analyze a multithreaded program with a debugger, AFAIK. E.g. do not expect the program running in the debugger to behave the same as when running outside of the debugger, especially if you are dealing with timing issues or heisenbugs. The UNIX philiosophy would be to make multiple programs that can exchange (preferably plain text) data via pipes or shared memory. That way you can test the components separately. Look e.g. at postfix. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpwyIcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVwkwCdFhergJVl92bjwlEMhVDGCSLv E3sAn22CZKTToXvhah+bOT3E6v9strIW =FPO5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 00:43:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B64106566B; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2005C8FC1E; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6U0hk4P073724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:43:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 prime.gushi.org n6U0hk4P073724 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1248912869; bh=fBA/zK1SiQJB1bMbFb1OPCFnBpPgUqbOmLMWSd3wvAU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cyu6YNafNMphb9Y+rqLEMFyabZsxuC/KscX/vfMHgdpaKREPawAWkgJeZgcAuCNjA s1i6r0aVvnaiztzRhBKwA== X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v1.0.2 prime.gushi.org n6U0hk4P073724 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:mime-version:content-type; b=wOmqnMwcmswT0jnFXYDU0HCC5BrYiCyMCAthZXKUV1hNYL2yb1oiQG6nfGWhV09bg d6DcKvkmS5eLTlVK6O6jw== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6U0hkfY073723; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:43:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:43:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4A70BE55.60405@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <200907282158.43397.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A6FF497.5010808@FreeBSD.org> <4A709B81.5070905@FreeBSD.org> <4A70BE55.60405@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x624BB249 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:43:51 -0000 On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Doug Barton wrote: > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> The fact that the error occurs AT ALL is the bug and what is >> counterintuitive, and many people would not think to try typing "make" >> again, and instead would just assume the thing's broken. > > Ok, I actually misunderstood the problem that you were reporting. I > thought that the reference to .build_done.bind96._usr_local indicated > that the port had already been built once, but that is not the case. > To reproduce the bug, you need to do the following: > > 1. Make sure there is nothing in /var/db/ports/bind96 > 2. cd /usr/ports/dns/bind96 > 3. make > 4. Enable the "replace base" option > 5. Save the config > > You will then see the following error: > > make: don't know how to make > /usr/local/tmp/usr/local/ports/dns/bind96/work/.build_done.bind96._usr_local. > Stop > *** Error code 2 > > I think Mel is right that the problem is changing PREFIX, but that's > the whole purpose of the option. > > Could you please open a PR about this with a subject something to the > effect of "OPTIONS that change PREFIX cause an error after 'make > config'" and describe how to reproduce this? Done, just got the mail from gnats: 137250. -Dan -- Pika Pika Pika! -Pikachu, of Pokemon fame. --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 01:04:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E8B106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06318FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so254708eyd.7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vV+4cruc3wxYLONIKy7kAREsVh2YU4tXdHHGrXL3Oo4=; b=Bc/Jw3VCLykc8E2zmg2c0VuJB5o+LG71aHJ6h0vwnd9lOECBLqeVYzYDk9vtxD5M1P ngMD7pPjoSHDfPScSNl45f47CfzS6tv6YwJBj1DrzUKrZaPETwdKdDJB/BkUddnANdsl 2eA+iS8uJqE1F+18CDgQPOTmVvUo9zecWrCi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EscnPsgqahc8E8AmXnQnxlwtc/hIuP0MxV2KnMeSygw8JrAxf5njMcekdL3wSJwtG1 LfCpNPr0q2cm85t8CLykb2wALUAcd1rjMXBya85WwwKbrJCsEejfYCXHL2/9Tj4nSjK2 HckPLaWkv7wTXV/M7h6jXN6BxnO17jm+U7X/A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.179.6 with SMTP id g6mr604162ebp.32.1248915887685; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090729220911.GA656@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090729220911.GA656@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:04:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Roland Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parallel debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:49 -0000 Thanks for the reply. I should have said that I'm also interested in profilers. I have limited experience (in Linux) using gprof and valgrind. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 03:25:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168371065670 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cat.cia.com (cat.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6138FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cable-72-53-39-159.cia.com ([72.53.39.159] helo=ihorp.ath.cx) by cat.cia.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWLhv-0007NH-2A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:49:27 -0600 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.16.50.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by ihorp.ath.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6U2nNY6073602 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:49:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ihorp.ath.cx: Host [172.16.50.122] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:49:19 -0700 From: Ihor Prystay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:25:44 -0000 your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the Sendmail > > banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root > Version 8.14.2 > Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 > NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING > SASLv2 > SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG > > ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ > (short domain name) $w = banyan > (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com > (subdomain name) $m = ..com > (node name) $k = banyan...com > ======================================================== > > root... deliverable: mailer local, user root > > banyan# telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 > +0800 (CST) > ehlo localhost > 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-PIPELINING > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE > 250-DSN > 250-ETRN > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > 250-DELIVERBY > 250 HELP > > The Sendmail test seems OK > But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. > > Reed > > > From: Reed Lai > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: SMTP Authentication > > > Hi, > > I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: > > FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html > > SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 > http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html > > One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the > maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in the > functional server, but the other one has not. > > The maillog of functional server > ====================== > Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net > [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 > Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, > size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, > relay=59-...net [59...147] > > The other one > ========= > Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, > arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], > reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied > Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, > size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, > relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] > > It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. > > Please help or tip me for something I forget. > > Thank you! > > Reed > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 03:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9871065674 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s21.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s21.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6A58FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS3 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s21.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:52:39 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> In-Reply-To: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:51:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 03:52:39.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F135EF0:01CA10C9] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:52:43 -0000 The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the functional server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the Sendmail > > banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root > Version 8.14.2 > Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 > NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING > SASLv2 > SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG > > ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ > (short domain name) $w = banyan > (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com > (subdomain name) $m = ..com > (node name) $k = banyan...com > ======================================================== > > root... deliverable: mailer local, user root > > banyan# telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 > +0800 (CST) > ehlo localhost > 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-PIPELINING > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE > 250-DSN > 250-ETRN > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > 250-DELIVERBY > 250 HELP > > The Sendmail test seems OK > But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. > > Reed > > > From: Reed Lai > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: SMTP Authentication > > > Hi, > > I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: > > FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html > > SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 > http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html > > One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the > maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in the > functional server, but the other one has not. > > The maillog of functional server > ====================== > Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net > [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 > Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, > size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, > relay=59-...net [59...147] > > The other one > ========= > Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, > arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], > reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied > Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, > size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, > relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] > > It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. > > Please help or tip me for something I forget. > > Thank you! > > Reed > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 04:27:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4E7106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5CE8FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS20 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:25:37 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:25:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 04:25:37.0422 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9D85AE0:01CA10CD] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:27:07 -0000 The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this different? Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the functional server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the Sendmail > > banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root > Version 8.14.2 > Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 > NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING > SASLv2 > SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG > > ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ > (short domain name) $w = banyan > (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com > (subdomain name) $m = ..com > (node name) $k = banyan...com > ======================================================== > > root... deliverable: mailer local, user root > > banyan# telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 > +0800 (CST) > ehlo localhost > 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-PIPELINING > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE > 250-DSN > 250-ETRN > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > 250-DELIVERBY > 250 HELP > > The Sendmail test seems OK > But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. > > Reed > > > From: Reed Lai > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: SMTP Authentication > > > Hi, > > I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: > > FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html > > SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 > http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html > > One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the > maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in the > functional server, but the other one has not. > > The maillog of functional server > ====================== > Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net > [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 > Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, > size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, > relay=59-...net [59...147] > > The other one > ========= > Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, > arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], > reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied > Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, > size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, > relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] > > It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. > > Please help or tip me for something I forget. > > Thank you! > > Reed > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 06:35:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381E1065672 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cat.cia.com (cat.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247358FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cable-72-53-39-159.cia.com ([72.53.39.159] helo=ihorp.ath.cx) by cat.cia.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWPEq-0001Qf-ET for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:35:40 -0600 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.16.50.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by ihorp.ath.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6U6Za8v074147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ihorp.ath.cx: Host [172.16.50.122] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:35:32 -0700 From: Ihor Prystay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:35:43 -0000 Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the output. Check 250-AUTH According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional > server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this > different? > > Reed > > From: Reed Lai > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the functional > server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. > > Reed > > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. > I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. > > Ihor > > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the Sendmail >> >> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >> Version 8.14.2 >> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >> SASLv2 >> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >> >> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >> (short domain name) $w = banyan >> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >> (node name) $k = banyan...com >> ======================================================== >> >> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >> >> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >> Trying 127.0.0.1... >> Connected to localhost. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 >> +0800 (CST) >> ehlo localhost >> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >> 250-PIPELINING >> 250-8BITMIME >> 250-SIZE >> 250-DSN >> 250-ETRN >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> 250-DELIVERBY >> 250 HELP >> >> The Sendmail test seems OK >> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >> >> Reed >> >> >> From: Reed Lai >> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >> >> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >> >> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >> >> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >> the >> functional server, but the other one has not. >> >> The maillog of functional server >> ====================== >> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, >> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >> daemon=IPv4, >> relay=59-...net [59...147] >> >> The other one >> ========= >> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, >> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, >> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >> >> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >> >> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Reed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 06:39:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B864106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris.chambers@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mail.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D9818FC22 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris.chambers@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Jul 2009 06:39:39 -0000 Received: from d75-157-47-59.bchsia.telus.net (EHLO [192.168.1.75]) [75.157.47.59] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us001) with SMTP; 30 Jul 2009 02:39:39 -0400 X-Authenticated: #57200733 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX181fXgARho1SRqr4c6lHOxXLFrY8ICwUB35QabBm6 i6suXxQEOsGePt From: Christopher Chambers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:38:30 -0700 Message-Id: <1248935910.897.3.camel@Marilyn.gateway.2wire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Subject: Sony DSC Digital Camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:39:43 -0000 Hi, I am able to mount the camera (in 7.1-p6), but I am unable to read the jpeg images. Varies programs claim that the file is not a valid jpeg. I found a few pages on the internet discussing how to tell FreeBSD how to mount the camera. Since I am already able to mount, these do not seem relevant. Any ideas? Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 07:07:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB481065687 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3B28FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6U77n6S072647; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:07:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 192A2BACA; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:07:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:07:49 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Daniel Underwood Message-ID: <20090730070749.GA19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090729220911.GA656@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parallel debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:07:51 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 09:04:47PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I should have said that I'm also interested in > profilers. I have limited experience (in Linux) using gprof and > valgrind. gprof is part of the base system. Valgrind is available in ports, but only for the i386 architecture. Personally, I haven't felt the need to use a profiler in at least a decade. Current machines are so fast that even interpreted languages are fast enough for a lot of (smaller) programs. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpxRsUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUJyQCbBPWYjGYj9Gg8eLF2CVfqo/kQ P9sAn3DFfvbxxZPdn+pNmZmC8JjmHLVa =aDiO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 07:13:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCCA106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out10.libero.it (cp-out10.libero.it [212.52.84.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E315C8FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.52.29) by cp-out10.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4A5DDB5B0182CDFD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:01:49 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6U71mBT073801 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:01:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4A71455C.2070506@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:01:48 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090624) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:13:00 -0000 Hello. I'm trying to use OpenMP in C++ on FreeBSD 6.3p10/i386 and I'm totally stuck. First off, base system's gcc (3.4.6) does not include OpenMP support, so I'm using gcc 4.2.5 from ports (I also tried 4.3.4, but that does not make much difference). I've added the flag -fopenmp to the command line: this enables parsing of #pragma omp directives, but results in undefined references at compilation time. So I also added -lgomp (although Google suggests it should be automatically picked up). Now the program compiles and links fine, but at runtime, as soon as the "#pragma"ed function is called, I get again undefined references (to GOMP_parallel_start, GOMP_parallel_end, omp_get_num_threads and omp_get_thread_num). I tried removing the #pragmas (so OpenMP is not used, altough enabled and linked in), and so I get "Bad system call (core dumped)" at runtime. gdb tells me this happens in ksem_init and Google again helps by telling me I need to put "options P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES" (from NOTES) in my kernel config, or kldload sem. The problem is, all these messages are very old: _ "kldload sem" results in "No such file or directory"; _ a sysvsem.ko exists in /boot/kernel, but "kldload sysvsem" results in "File exists" (I have in fact "options SYSVSEM" in my kernel config); _ my system's NOTES bears no mention of P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES; _ man sem still reports "FreeBSD 6.2" at the bottom. So I was wondering if these suggestions are still valid, or if something changed before 6.3 was released; on the other hand, is 6.3 too old and would upgrading to some newer version solve this matter? Any other hint or info is appreciated. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 07:14:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508A9106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46188FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6U7EvOA038815; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:14:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 03295BACA; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:14:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:14:56 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Christopher Chambers Message-ID: <20090730071456.GB19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <1248935910.897.3.camel@Marilyn.gateway.2wire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1248935910.897.3.camel@Marilyn.gateway.2wire.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony DSC Digital Camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:14:59 -0000 --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38:30PM -0700, Christopher Chambers wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am able to mount the camera (in 7.1-p6), but I am unable to read the > jpeg images. Varies programs claim that the file is not a valid jpeg. Can you display it properly on the camera itself? The image could be corrupted.=20 =20 > I found a few pages on the internet discussing how to tell FreeBSD how > to mount the camera. Since I am already able to mount, these do not seem > relevant. >=20 > Any ideas? =20 Most modern cameras do not even support mounting as a mass storage device, but use the picture transfer protocol. Try the graphics/gphoto2 por= t. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpxSHAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV16QCgkKpJZR/MO/LuhXQkAI+ub87u 0mIAn14tBIe18UncVpQDfpOFdM6qlGFr =se0f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nVMJ2NtxeReIH9PS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 08:02:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B2106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s5.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s5.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0878FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS18 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s5.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:02:24 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Question" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> In-Reply-To: <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:01:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 08:02:24.0122 (UTC) FILETIME=[127145A0:01CA10EC] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:02:25 -0000 Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! New server ========= 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 Functional server ============== 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are class and option listed C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list. BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does matter or not.. Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the output. Check 250-AUTH According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional > server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this > different? > > Reed > > From: Reed Lai > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the functional > server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. > > Reed > > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. > I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. > > Ihor > > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the Sendmail >> >> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >> Version 8.14.2 >> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >> SASLv2 >> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >> >> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >> (short domain name) $w = banyan >> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >> (node name) $k = banyan...com >> ======================================================== >> >> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >> >> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >> Trying 127.0.0.1... >> Connected to localhost. >> Escape character is '^]'. >> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 >> +0800 (CST) >> ehlo localhost >> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >> 250-PIPELINING >> 250-8BITMIME >> 250-SIZE >> 250-DSN >> 250-ETRN >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> 250-DELIVERBY >> 250 HELP >> >> The Sendmail test seems OK >> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >> >> Reed >> >> >> From: Reed Lai >> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >> >> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >> >> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >> >> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >> the >> functional server, but the other one has not. >> >> The maillog of functional server >> ====================== >> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, >> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >> daemon=IPv4, >> relay=59-...net [59...147] >> >> The other one >> ========= >> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, >> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, >> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >> >> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >> >> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Reed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 08:58:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F64B106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cat.cia.com (cat.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5A68FC16 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cable-72-53-39-159.cia.com ([72.53.39.159] helo=ihorp.ath.cx) by cat.cia.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWRTS-0003p4-Lx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:58:54 -0600 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.16.50.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by ihorp.ath.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6U8wqFS074807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ihorp.ath.cx: Host [172.16.50.122] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:58:48 -0700 From: Ihor Prystay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Question References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:58:57 -0000 Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad idea to do authentication clear text). Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! > > New server > ========= > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > > Functional server > ============== > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN > > I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are > class and option listed > > C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN > O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN > > The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN > in the 250-AUTH list. > BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does > matter or not.. > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the output. > Check > 250-AUTH > According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN > mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >> different? >> >> Reed >> >> From: Reed Lai >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the functional >> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >> >> Reed >> >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>> Sendmail >>> >>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>> Version 8.14.2 >>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>> SASLv2 >>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>> >>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>> ======================================================== >>> >>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>> >>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>> Connected to localhost. >>> Escape character is '^]'. >>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 >>> +0800 (CST) >>> ehlo localhost >>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>> 250-PIPELINING >>> 250-8BITMIME >>> 250-SIZE >>> 250-DSN >>> 250-ETRN >>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> 250-DELIVERBY >>> 250 HELP >>> >>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>> >>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>> >>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>> >>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>> the >>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>> >>> The maillog of functional server >>> ====================== >>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, >>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>> daemon=IPv4, >>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>> >>> The other one >>> ========= >>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, >>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, >>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>> >>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>> >>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 09:01:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0E1106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD7E8FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4D536BC4; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:01:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:01:49 +0200 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090730090149.GA36296@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090522223129.GA4918@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090523145353.GC1325@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090523145353.GC1325@phenom.cordula.ws> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: contact@getfiregpg.org Subject: Re: A port for FireGPG? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:01:54 -0000 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 04:53:53PM +0200, cpghost wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:31:29AM +0200, cpghost wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to use GnuPG with Webmail (e.g. with gmail or other > > webmails). AFAICS, the following Firefox add-on would help: > > > > http://www.getfiregpg.org/ > > > > Unfortunately, according to http://www.getfiregpg.org/install.html > > one needs to compile an IPC library (?) out of the firefox3 sources, > > like this: > > > > http://blog.getfiregpg.org/2008/10/17/how-to-compile-the-ipc-library/ > > > > Is there a port to automate this task, or could someone with the > > necessary skills please create such a port? That would be great! > > Just a little follow-up. > > Those are the (manual) steps to get libipc compiled on FreeBSD/amd64, > assuming www/firefox3 is already installed: Hi, this is an update for www/firefox35 # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox35 # make configure # make build (Be patient, it takes some time) # cd work/mozilla-1.9.1/extensions # (source of ipc-latest.tar.gz is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=299132) # tar -xvpf /path/to/ipc-latest.zip # chown -R root:wheel ipc (We now have /usr/ports/www/firefox35/work/mozilla-1.9.1/extensions/ipc) # cd ipc # ./makemake -r -o . Here, you need to manually edit (like this): Makefile (topsrcdir = ../..) build/Makefile (topsrcdir = ../../..) public/Makefile (topsrcdir = ../../..) src/Makefile (topsrcdir = ../../..) # gmake (This will create libipc.so, ipc.xpt in: /usr/ports/www/firefox35/work/mozilla-1.9.1/dist/bin/components) # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox35/work/mozilla-1.9.1/dist/bin/components # cp -i libipc.so /usr/local/lib/firefox3/components/ # cp -i ipc.xpt /usr/local/lib/firefox3/components/ (There is no need to install firefox3 again. Only libipc.so and ipc.xpt count) $ cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/ $ touch .autoreg (And restart firefox3). With that, firegpg add-on works flawlessly. All this can probably be automated with a slave port of www/firefox35. IMPORTANT: you don't want to use the port www/xpi-firegpg. It is extremely outdated (firegpg-0.5.2). Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 09:05:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1702106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B308FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 150-8.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch ([92.105.8.150] helo=gahrfit.gahr.ch) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWQSO-0004b9-Uk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:53:45 +0200 Received: by gahrfit.gahr.ch (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:43:28 +0200 From: "Pietro Cerutti" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:43:28 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090730074328.GG46857@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <20090729193532.GA58354@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090729193532.GA58354@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: port lang/g95 installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:05:37 -0000 On 2009-Jul-29, 20:35, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > this is a regression > > after some recent port updates, on 7.2-stable, 8.0-current and 8.0-beta2 > port lang/g95 gives: > > % g95 > g95: installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file or directory Fixed, thanks. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-July/177135.html > > I updated g95 with portmaster, so all dependencies should've been > followed. > > What is this f951? > > many thanks > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 09:08:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B648D1065686; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726E38FC13; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWRcx-0006Jm-0S; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:08:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MWRcw-0003GL-G2; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:08:42 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6U98gYq067833; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:08:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6U98gBi067832; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:08:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:08:42 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: gahr@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090730090842.GB64840@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090729193532.GA58354@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090730074328.GG46857@gahrfit.gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090730074328.GG46857@gahrfit.gahr.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: port lang/g95 installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:08:47 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:43:28AM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 2009-Jul-29, 20:35, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > this is a regression > > > > after some recent port updates, on 7.2-stable, 8.0-current and 8.0-beta2 > > port lang/g95 gives: > > > > % g95 > > g95: installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file or directory > > Fixed, thanks. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-July/177135.html thank you, but now there is a linker error: % g95 ld: cannot find -lf95 -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 09:26:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800501065670; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@getfiregpg.org) Received: from theglu.org (theglu.org [94.23.3.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092C38FC15; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from contact@getfiregpg.org) Received: from theglu.org (unknown [213.162.13.162]) by theglu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCAA917D7C; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:09:00 +0200 (CEST) From: "FireGPG - Maximilien Cuony" To: cpghost Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:08:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.30-ARCH; KDE/4.2.4; i686; ; ) References: <20090522223129.GA4918@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090523145353.GC1325@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090730090149.GA36296@phenom.cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <20090730090149.GA36296@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1488240.8VQlx5xlLN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200907301108.59812.contact@getfiregpg.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A port for FireGPG? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:26:53 -0000 --nextPart1488240.8VQlx5xlLN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Great it's working. I just sended a email this mornig to firegpg's port man= ager=20 as 0.5.2 is outdated and with serious security issues. Someone should upgra= de=20 it ;) Regards, On Thursday 30 July 2009, cpghost wrote : > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 04:53:53PM +0200, cpghost wrote: > > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:31:29AM +0200, cpghost wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'd like to use GnuPG with Webmail (e.g. with gmail or other > > > webmails). AFAICS, the following Firefox add-on would help: > > > > > > http://www.getfiregpg.org/ > > > > > > Unfortunately, according to http://www.getfiregpg.org/install.html > > > one needs to compile an IPC library (?) out of the firefox3 sources, > > > like this: > > > > > > http://blog.getfiregpg.org/2008/10/17/how-to-compile-the-ipc-librar= y/ > > > > > > Is there a port to automate this task, or could someone with the > > > necessary skills please create such a port? That would be great! > > > > Just a little follow-up. > > > > Those are the (manual) steps to get libipc compiled on FreeBSD/amd64, > > assuming www/firefox3 is already installed: > > Hi, > > this is an update for www/firefox35 > > # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox35 > # make configure > # make build > > (Be patient, it takes some time) > > # cd work/mozilla-1.9.1/extensions > > # > > (source of ipc-latest.tar.gz is > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=3D299132) > > # tar -xvpf /path/to/ipc-latest.zip > # chown -R root:wheel ipc > > (We now have /usr/ports/www/firefox35/work/mozilla-1.9.1/extensions/ipc) > > # cd ipc > > # ./makemake -r -o . > > Here, you need to manually edit (like this): > Makefile (topsrcdir =3D ../..) > build/Makefile (topsrcdir =3D ../../..) > public/Makefile (topsrcdir =3D ../../..) > src/Makefile (topsrcdir =3D ../../..) > > # gmake > > (This will create libipc.so, ipc.xpt in: > /usr/ports/www/firefox35/work/mozilla-1.9.1/dist/bin/components) > > # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox35/work/mozilla-1.9.1/dist/bin/components > # cp -i libipc.so /usr/local/lib/firefox3/components/ > # cp -i ipc.xpt /usr/local/lib/firefox3/components/ > > (There is no need to install firefox3 again. Only libipc.so and ipc.xpt > count) > > $ cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/ > $ touch .autoreg > > (And restart firefox3). > > With that, firegpg add-on works flawlessly. > > All this can probably be automated with a slave port of www/firefox35. > > IMPORTANT: you don't want to use the port www/xpi-firegpg. It is extremely > outdated (firegpg-0.5.2). > > Regards, > -cpghost. =2D-=20 =46ireGPG's team - Maximlien Cuony [The_glu]=20 http://getfiregpg.org http://theglu.org --nextPart1488240.8VQlx5xlLN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkpxYygACgkQjKKs5/FTCjU6wACgyNNnlJ2abbV3Jgr68d7pgROd FeIAn1beKvjTjJLXAoSCRy2HVAeyzwJk =ssz2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1488240.8VQlx5xlLN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 09:28:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90431065709 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s27.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s27.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CEE8FC2B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS5 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s27.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:28:46 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Question" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:28:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 09:28:46.0908 (UTC) FILETIME=[239FA7C0:01CA10F8] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:28:48 -0000 The liblogin.so is in directory banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 7 29 14:54 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so -> liblogin.so.2 banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17172 7 29 14:54 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 There is only confAUTH_MECHANISMS in .mc file, not confAUTH_OPTIONS dnl set SASL options dnl -------------------------------- TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:58 PM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad idea to do authentication clear text). Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! > > New server > ========= > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > > Functional server > ============== > 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN > > I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are > class and option listed > > C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN > O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN > > The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN > in the 250-AUTH list. > BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does > matter or not.. > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the output. > Check > 250-AUTH > According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN > mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >> different? >> >> Reed >> >> From: Reed Lai >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the functional >> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >> >> Reed >> >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>> Sendmail >>> >>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>> Version 8.14.2 >>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>> SASLv2 >>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>> >>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>> ======================================================== >>> >>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>> >>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>> Connected to localhost. >>> Escape character is '^]'. >>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:19:40 >>> +0800 (CST) >>> ehlo localhost >>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>> 250-PIPELINING >>> 250-8BITMIME >>> 250-SIZE >>> 250-DSN >>> 250-ETRN >>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> 250-DELIVERBY >>> 250 HELP >>> >>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>> >>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>> >>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>> >>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>> the >>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>> >>> The maillog of functional server >>> ====================== >>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: from=, >>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>> daemon=IPv4, >>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>> >>> The other one >>> ========= >>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: ruleset=check_rcpt, >>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: from=, >>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>> >>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>> >>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 10:18:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DF6106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@quanza.net) Received: from calimero.quanza.net (calimero.quanza.net [217.115.196.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A9A8FC2C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@quanza.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.quanza.net [127.0.0.1]) by calimero.quanza.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A082F1DE5 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:00:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calimero.quanza.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.399 tagged_above=-9999.9 required=4.9 tests=[AM:BOOST=1, ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] autolearn=ham Received: from calimero.quanza.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (calimero.quanza.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ZleHpQ7G+ce for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:00:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from quanza-off-dhcpdrone137.q (quanza-off-dhcpdrone137.q [172.28.132.137]) by calimero.quanza.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EFE2F1DE4 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:00:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <9C8A49A9-B087-4A80-832F-D40FECF74961@quanza.net> From: Daniel Franke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-11-57878537" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:00:17 +0200 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.0 (v56) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: FreeBSD (6.4/7.0/7.2) guest OS bootloader not being loaded in Linux KVM. (Ubuntu 9.04) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:18:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-11-57878537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, I've been tasked with installing a KVM machine for a customer. My problem comes with me wanting to install FreeBSD as a guest in KVM. The installer works fine but as soon as I start the VM after the installation, the bootloader hangs, sometimes showing one character and other times it doesn't show anything. Is this a known problem? Are there any workarounds. Is there any place I can check for debug logs. I use libvert to install and manage my VMs and I installed my VM like this: # virt-install --connect qemu:///system -n freebsd64test -r 1024 -f / data/virtual_machines/freebsd64test.qcow2 -s 10 -c 6.4-RELEASE-amd64- disc1.iso --vnc --noautoconsole --os-type=unix --os-variant=freebsd6 -- network=bridge:br0 --hvm I also tried without the --hvm flag and with FreeBSD 7.2 and 7.0. The Ubuntu server is a fully up-to-date 9.04 machine. Linux xxxx 2.6.28-13-server #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:56:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux Has anyone else had this problem and/or know a way to fix it. Thanks in advance, Daniel --- Daniel Franke Quanza Engineering B.V. Van Diemenstraat 132 1013 CN Amsterdam E: support@quanza.net T: +31 20 530 1613 F: +31 20 530 1601 W: www.quanza.net --Apple-Mail-11-57878537 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkpxbzIACgkQ1RnEvPsueBub8gCaA9Y0E9hemUxjlffXMFXFJKuW cQoAoMfoU/4+cWndgrm31NyUd+RioNib =JW2+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-11-57878537-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 11:20:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49FE106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37538FC17 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5193D44F; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:20:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6UBKfdc001426; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:20:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:20:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Roland Smith Message-Id: <20090730132041.6adc208b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090730071456.GB19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <1248935910.897.3.camel@Marilyn.gateway.2wire.net> <20090730071456.GB19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christopher Chambers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony DSC Digital Camera X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:20:49 -0000 On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:14:56 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38:30PM -0700, Christopher Chambers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am able to mount the camera (in 7.1-p6), but I am unable to read the > > jpeg images. Varies programs claim that the file is not a valid jpeg. > > Can you display it properly on the camera itself? The image could be > corrupted. You could easily check it with % file /media/camera/*JPG or even % identify /media/camera/*JPG if you've installed the ImageMagick port. > > I found a few pages on the internet discussing how to tell FreeBSD how > > to mount the camera. Since I am already able to mount, these do not seem > > relevant. > > > > Any ideas? > > Most modern cameras do not even support mounting as a mass storage > device, but use the picture transfer protocol. Try the graphics/gphoto2 port. I have a Canon S3 IS which supports both modes. Check the camera for its settings. In fact, the gphoto2 port is an excellent means for dealing with PTP based cameras. You can use it to download the images off the camera and then check / view them. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d29sm4335285and.18.2009.07.30.04.32.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:32:09 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:31:56 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907300631.56672.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: LightScribe Labeler X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:32:12 -0000 Hi! Almost all DVD burners have "LightScribe Labeler". Are ther any chance to use this on FreeBSD. I red about LightScribe Labeler for Linux but there are nothing about FreeBSD. I have just FreeBSD 7.2 on my system and I use K3b. I am buying a Lite-On 22x DVD+/-RW Dual-Layer LightScribe (IDE) and I like to use labeling option too. Thanks in advance. -- Mitja ----- http://starikarp.redbubble.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 12:14:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080021065670 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zafiro17@gmail.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13C68FC15 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zafiro17@gmail.com) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9BA3ABE64; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.214]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:55:37 -0400 Received: by web5.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 735E25AED1; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1248954937.26720.1327510041@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: U9T2TgqdoDqc69leCt8v3B8cH27HAtMy+V1Ny/sqPyDO 1248954937 From: "Randall Wood" To: "Doug Poland" , "Christian Crube" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:55:37 +0100 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zafiro17@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:14:24 -0000 On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500, "Doug Poland" said: > > On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt > > or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox > > and it works like a charm. > > > > Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under > > FreeBSD 8? > > > I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support. A quick look > at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a > configurable knob. > > > -- > Regards, > Doug > IMAP support is AT LEAST in mutt-devel and probably in mutt as well, and has been since the 1.3 days (2003 or so). As for SMTP support, that appeared around 1.5.17 I think (about a year ago); you might have to use mutt-devel for it. That said, I find mutt-devel to be as stable as I could hope for and never seem to have any problems with it, unlike some devel packages that can be flaky. I think if you type mutt -v at the prompt, it will show you which options were compiled in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 13:21:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0F21065675 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCF48FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 150-8.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch ([92.105.8.150] helo=gahrfit.gahr.ch) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWVZx-0005gP-Pk; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:21:53 +0200 Received: by gahrfit.gahr.ch (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:11:35 +0200 From: "Pietro Cerutti" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:11:35 +0200 To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090730131135.GA57352@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <20090729193532.GA58354@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090730074328.GG46857@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <20090730090842.GB64840@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090730090842.GB64840@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: port lang/g95 installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:21:55 -0000 On 2009-Jul-30, 10:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:43:28AM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > On 2009-Jul-29, 20:35, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > this is a regression > > > > > > after some recent port updates, on 7.2-stable, 8.0-current and 8.0-beta2 > > > port lang/g95 gives: > > > > > > % g95 > > > g95: installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file or directory > > > > Fixed, thanks. > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-July/177135.html > > thank you, but now there is a linker error: > > % g95 > ld: cannot find -lf95 Please set your LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to $prefix/lib. $ cat test.f90 program hello print *,"Hello World!" end program hello $ setenv LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib $ g95 -o test test.f90 $ ./test Hello World! > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 13:39:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D73F106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442A8FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNL00B8FKMBXS00@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A71A2A4.20604@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:39:48 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A7087FE.1080104@videotron.ca> <20090729185227.GA98723@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A709E2F.7000803@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: <4A709E2F.7000803@videotron.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messed up upgrade 7.0 & 7.1 to 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:39:52 -0000 PJ wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:33:50PM -0400, PJ wrote: >> >> >>> I have been struggling for about 4 days trying to prepare 2 computers to >>> update to 7.2 with no success whatsoever. >>> The more I read the instructions, the less I understand. >>> And almost nothing works as it should >>> Some background: >>> I have been using FreeBSD as a LAN server (for files storage & web >>> development/backup etc. and part desktop for more than 10 years. I have >>> never had great success when it comes to installation but have managed >>> to get it running and have even kept on v. 4.10 for archiving older >>> sites I have had. >>> The older methods of upgrading worked well enough even though they were >>> somewhat lengthy. >>> Last week I finally managed to set up an Acer Travelmate 4400 amd64 with >>> FreeBSD 7.2 and even got everything right. For the first time I was able >>> to get Flash & Shockwave to work on a FreeBSD installation. >>> With a bit of help from this list. Thanks, guys. >>> However, I have not been able to figure out how a custom kernel could be >>> set up nor how the new modular system works. Haven't found any coherent >>> explanations. >>> >>> But now I have the following problems: >>> PROBLEM 1. I freebsd-update fetch did not get the security patches or >>> whatever else it should - all I got was error: configuration file not found >>> >>> >> Does /etc/freebsd-update.conf exist? >> >> >> >>> PROBLEM 2. There seems to be some confusion about how to update and keep >>> current the ports - portsnap seems to work in concert with portversion; >>> there are some problems when one uses portsnap as there are with cvsup. >>> The two seem necessary since some errors inn installing cannot be >>> handled by both... >>> If, for example, it is necessary to delete the port completely and >>> reinstall it, portsnap just does not do it. I does not see that the port >>> direcotry is empty; cvsup does and fills it in so the error can be >>> correcte and the port properly installed. >>> >>> >> Portsnap only updates the ports tree (the directories under /usr/ports), >> not the installed ports themselves. You'll need either >> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade or /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster to >> keep installed ports up to date. I prefer portmaster since it doesn't >> depend on a separate database as portupgrade does. Depending on how long >> it has been since you've updated your ports and the speed of your >> machine, updates can indeed take a long time. You could choose to use >> pre-built packages instead of compiling from source, to speed things up. >> >> >> >>> PROBLEM 3. I always have been running with a custom kernel. So, to >>> upgrade I am supposed to provide the GENERIC kernel in /boot. Ok, I went >>> through that process as per manual instructions. >>> >>> >> Did you check that the GENERIC kernel that you built was installed as >> /boot/kernel/kernel? >> >> >> >>> Had to reboot as I needed to transfer some downloaded files from the >>> 7.1 box to the 7.0 box for port upgrading. >>> >>> >> It is unclear to me why you should have to reboot to transfer >> files... If you want to e.g. connect two machines with an ethernet >> cable, are you aware that you can use the scripts in /etc/rc.d to stop >> and restart networking? >> >> And why not just transfer files with a USB thumbdrive? >> >> >> >>> That was a mistake. Nothing indicated that I could >>> not reboot without screwing things up... of course, I should have known >>> better; but I'm prone to that kind of error. But I'm pretty sure that >>> the automatic upgrade would not have worked anyway as it doesn't work on >>> the machine with 7.0 installed. >>> >>> >> Without a more thorough description of the steps that you followed, >> there is not really a lot others can do to help you. From your >> description it is totally unclear what has gone wrong. >> >> >> >>> Booting on this 7.1 machine is now impossible. I tried to boot from the >>> install CD but that only made it worse. As I understood the instruction >>> it would upgrade the machine, but I understand now that it just doesn't >>> work that way... it has to be upgraded from a 7.2 CD. That I don't have >>> at the moment. >>> So the boot now just says: >>> Invalid format >>> FreeBSD/i386 boot >>> Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel >>> boot: >>> - >>> >>> >> Type ? at the boot prompt to see a list of files in the root directory >> of the default boot device. Read the boot(8) manual page. >> >> It could be that something went wrong with your disk. Mabye the slices >> or partitions were deleted. >> >> >> >>> PROBLEM 4. The machine with 7.1 - after a complete ports upgrade, I tried >>> # freebsd-update -r 7.2-RELEASE upgrade >>> and I get the famous no configuration file found. >>> >>> >> Does this configuration file (see above) exist? >> >> >> >>> Somehow, I don't recall that being indicated anywhere in the manual. Oh, >>> I did read it... several times... and the more I read it, the more I >>> didn't understand anything - from mergemaster to the configuration file >>> to the modular kernels ... >>> Maybe someone could explain to me just exaclty how is one supposed to >>> deal with the upgrading and customizing the kernel. Should one (I) be >>> simply using the GENERIC kernel and then expect the upgrading to be as >>> simple as it seems to sound? >>> >>> >> If you want a custom kernel, I find it more convenient to upgrade from >> source. >> >> >> >>> And just what advantage (speed wise I suppose) is there to use the >>> custom kernel? >>> >>> >> A custom kernel will save some boot time because it doesn't probe for >> devices that aren't built-in or loaded as modules. >> >> There are some things (options) in the kernel that you cannot load as modules, >> they need to be compiled in. E.g. the scheduler, or if you want to use >> device polling instead of interrupts. See e.g. /sys/i386/conf/NOTES for >> options and devices that are not part of the GENERIC kernel. >> >> >> >>> Maybe the easiest is to just install the 7.2 fresh; but that would take >>> the fun out of beating my head against an already cracked wall for >>> upgrading and would take probably as long to reinstall all the 644 or so >>> programs. >>> >>> >> I don't think you have to reinstall all programs. Just restore >> /usr/local and /var/db/pkg from backup. You did make a full backup >> before trying to upgrade, I hope? If not, I trust you remember to do so >> in the future... >> >> Contrary to what the handbook says, you do not always have to reinstall >> all ports when updating the system. It is definitely necessary when >> updating to another major version (6.x -> 7.x), but when updating to >> another minor version (7.1 -> 7.2) it is usually not necessary (unless >> /usr/src/UPDATING says differently). >> >> >> >>> On the 7.1 machine, I don't really want to lose all the files I have on >>> there... most have been saved and none are really that important... but >>> "just in case". >>> >>> >> Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is why you should make >> regular backups of all your important data. >> >> Roland >> >> > Thanks for the response, Rolland, > I think I have unraveled this stuff a bit. > I haven't checked for the config file yet as I am using the MS portion > of this machine. > I think I can fix the 7.1 machine with a boot disk for 7.2. > That is what is not very clear in the manual. I now see that before you > do the upgrade (that is, BEFORE) you have to cvsup the 7.2 release ports > and sources. I tried to upgrade the 7.1 from a 7.1 disk... so now, I'll > try with the 7.2. I generally lilke to do my updates over the net and > not from the disk and I assume (falsely, I see now) that the idea of > upgrade is not programmed into the manual or the files to mean from a > lower branch to a higher one... :'( > Anyway, I think I'll be allright... > Will repost if I solve this thing. > PJ > > Well, I finally found a site where things were pretty clear: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/upgrade-freebsd-to-72/ Now, why couldn't the Fbsd manual be that simple and clear? I would suppose that if it were, then there wouldn't be so many different post regarding the updating/upgrading processes on the net... This worked perfectly and served as a reminder to me that that was exactly how I had done it before; looks like I got sidetracked by the purported "new and easy" upgrade. Really, it doesn't make sense and just caused me to screw up my other installation of 7.1. That said, is there some utility or way to boot up the 7.1 machine and look at all the files that should still be there (at least that's what I understood from the upgrade nonsense on the sysinstall bootup from the iso)? TIA, PJ -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 13:58:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384C91065673 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B2F8FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so739095fxm.36 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dQzHXw3Im2PsmLoD8AcNRWofs+eq+/s2IQp0tnYOqHQ=; b=a0wV625Warnu6to+vPczd++7+4qCMHWe7kAbvb0ck2QpVNqblVFdxON1eSrh9XpFPJ NTYw4iC35EhQRpM2DLaOfngTqHhZzX+plKfjkNkj/X8GhZe3qgI8O0t0VGCBY2GsVRvF cmK9nztGKLUoglx1pD4ftGY75d6G+GjB/rn88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BJYSSo2YctxPmV2W7jljK2N6AZ9XicHvwz3uWl657gCBVOWWnmgvsTyvrkoiVfKmBT Tzj4WJzKR4mqt/e3AYyDd8b8MJt25yJL8U9HYYDO4hWp3sZ4itXCV79WZypQKDcxQEGk FlSgWS7WUq0qPe+4gxjOyI62p00Ge+xuwXR/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.138 with SMTP id i10mr761217faq.82.1248962298671; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1248954937.26720.1327510041@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> <1248954937.26720.1327510041@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:58:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: zafiro17@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Doug Poland , Christian Crube , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:58:20 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Randall Wood wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500, "Doug Poland" > said: >> >> On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt >> > or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox >> > and it works like a charm. >> > >> > Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under >> > FreeBSD 8? >> > >> I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support. =A0A quick look >> at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a >> configurable knob. >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Doug >> > > IMAP support is AT LEAST in mutt-devel and probably in mutt as well, and > has been since the 1.3 days (2003 or so). =A0As for SMTP support, that > appeared around 1.5.17 I think (about a year ago); you might have to use > mutt-devel for it. =A0That said, I find mutt-devel to be as stable as I > could hope for and never seem to have any problems with it, unlike some > devel packages that can be flaky. =A0I think if you type mutt -v at the > prompt, it will show you which options were compiled in. > _______________________________________________ I may be misunderstanding the issue with SMTP. Is the poster just needing to send email through a non-local email server? If so, the port msmtp is very easy to use and works very well with mutt. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 14:03:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9351B106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E6B8FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so579395bwz.43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4hgefat1Z5PraFpU6kR4xBKiEe+iVkRD54AuYehQjU4=; b=nW2Hgf3WYuoErUoySVZ8BWm+eHl9pXjWLfOeNuVD43oj4kLM4MDqJFMijgeZ8NodGC ONrDfs7x924mpqhxwzFU4hoR75ZUyvVHr/BkrKD1i+vIpebrsQgfcOnJUmXa4Bk6RBkh E2uTZAm4DpcF1qhmxJBU2aUoWcQpReawkEmQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YbyG4jJm0MUJdsAKevBAM69ulwg7AXzNAxEBJ+DWzFDEtSLanLccnn5rqlH5DbNn7Q PX2vauewZxNOk3cQNz5s8DKU8CbDeUw4nmz5JGEUzeqQkX+/Wn7rUXs8cqgIJ4euYpVU VzG8Pm2vEGMdJfef3tz2bWqoVmD6aIe7pRVpo= Received: by 10.102.253.3 with SMTP id a3mr663521mui.134.1248960822423; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaur.5550h.net ([93.216.231.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e10sm12601339muf.14.2009.07.30.06.33.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:33:39 +0200 From: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090730153339.2739e5b9@centaur.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: <4A71455C.2070506@netfence.it> References: <4A71455C.2070506@netfence.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:23 -0000 Hello Andrea, I have no 6.3 box around for testing, but on 7.2 OpenMP works without problems using base gcc when I compile using -fopenmp, but without -lgomp. Thus I would suggest upgrading to 7.2 or 8 beta. Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 14:03:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444C01065674 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6DA8FC23 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so323730eyd.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.1.77 with SMTP id 55mr242457wec.111.1248962628507; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nognu.de (pD9EAA430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.234.164.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm885828eye.54.2009.07.30.07.03.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:04:14 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: Andrew Gould Message-ID: <20090730140414.GB961@nognu.de> References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> <1248954937.26720.1327510041@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: zafiro17@gmail.com, Doug Poland , Christian Crube , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:50 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > > IMAP support is AT LEAST in mutt-devel and probably in mutt as well, and > > has been since the 1.3 days (2003 or so). As for SMTP support, that > > appeared around 1.5.17 I think (about a year ago); you might have to use > > mutt-devel for it. That said, I find mutt-devel to be as stable as I > > could hope for and never seem to have any problems with it, unlike some > > devel packages that can be flaky. I think if you type mutt -v at the > > prompt, it will show you which options were compiled in. > > _______________________________________________ > > I may be misunderstanding the issue with SMTP. Is the poster just > needing to send email through a non-local email server? If so, the > port msmtp is very easy to use and works very well with mutt. > > Andrew If mutt-devel is used and compiled WITH_MUTT_SMTP, no outside tool is needed, mutt can handle SMTP itself then. Cheers, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 14:03:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105861065672 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4C08FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from jnielsen.socialserve.com (office.socialserve.com [208.60.89.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n6UE3nBc003953; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:03:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:03:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907301003.41741.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Richard Fairbanks Subject: Re: Striping a live file system RAID 10 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:03:53 -0000 On Wednesday 29 July 2009 15:54:42 Richard Fairbanks wrote: > OK, so this is what I want to do. I have 4 big fast drives that I want to > run in RAID 10 (1+0). So, I'll need to mirror two sets of two disks, then > stripe those two mirrors. So, how do I do this if I want this striped set > of mirrors to be my entire fs? I can create both mirrors and have the > entire fs on one of the mirrors (*mirror0*), but then I need to stripe it > with the other mirrors (*mirror1*), and trying to create a stripe > (*stripe*) from that a set of mirrors in which one of the mirrors contains > the live file system does not work, obviously. > > I was thinking, very generally, of creating the fstab file that I'll need > to point to the stripe instead of ad4 for example, rsyncing everything to a > disk on a diffferent server, using a live CD to create the stripe, then > rsyncing back to the stripe. I don't know if this will work, and haven't > even come to a conclusion of the particulars needed. When changing disk configurations on the same server I generally do everything by hand, then use dump+restore (rather than rsync) to move (UFS) filesystems around. (ZFS has zfs send/recv). > Of course, if there is a way to create the striped set off mirrors before > installation then installing onto that stripe, that'd be perfect. I don't > know if that can be done. I'm sure someone has configured a RAID 10 > "standalone" system before. (Oh, I'm using 7.2). I'm just stuck at this > point! You need to consider where/how you are going to boot the system. It's straightforward to boot from a gmirror'ed UFS filesystem (the BIOS just uses one disk and thinks everything is normal), but you can't do the same from a stripe. You will either need a separate disk/device for your / or /boot partition or you will need to use slices/partitions on your disks. I frequently have the root filesystem on a small gmirror (partitions on 2 disks) then use the equivalent "extra" space on the remaining disk(s) for swap. Youi should be able to do this pre-install from the Fixit shell. Boot to the live CD, enter the shell, kldload geom_mirror and geom_stripe, create the mirrors, create the stripe, exit the shell, start the install, and tell sysinstall to use the device node under /dev/stripe for your filesystem. Alternatively you could just do a regular install to one of the disks and do everything post-install. In this case you'd still create two mirrors but one of them would only contain a single disk at first. Then create your stripe, dump/restore your files, update fstab (in both locations if needed), reboot using the stripe, then add the original system disk into its mirror. If you provide more details of how you want your setup to look I can give you a specific walkthrough if needed. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 14:10:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58201065672 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2308FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so583995bwz.43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.198.20 with SMTP id a20mr687096muq.114.1248961377886; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nognu.de (pD9EAA430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.234.164.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b9sm3792946mug.9.2009.07.30.06.42.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:43:24 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: Christian Grube Message-ID: <20090730134324.GA961@nognu.de> References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:23 -0000 Christian Grube wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt > or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox > and it works like a charm. > Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under > FreeBSD 8? > Greetings Chris For IMAP you don't have to set an extra knob, however, you definitely want IMAP header caching (WITH_MUTT_IMAP_HEADER_CACHE). For SMTP, you need to set WITH_MUTT_SMTP. GPG doesn't need an extra knob too. So to install with the above options set, use in mail/mutt-devel: make -DWITH_MUTT_IMAP_HEADER_CACHE -DWITH_MUTT_SMTP install clean See /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel/Makefile for more options you can set. BTW, i think the "stable" Mutt does not support IMAP at all, you'd have to use an extra fetchmail or whatever. However, virtually everyone wants to use mutt-devel anyway. HTH, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 14:21:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E53106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9F88FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so326856eyd.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:21:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=i0/pFimQIXvjTOZgUvsHB9D3UvXrHAccN/34gFYLy5U=; b=s+Y+HsWooafxpCK/0FgzctNI8kkTJUxYnb9TkARuS+HeaIBQJGVb03R4ugXir7l/5P F7svL0v1l7QrwQIbphyHTyZ/s09Dgdsidzr55cd/vEHbbtYIJSsqnPC6YuEw0cCSGWwk oaswW0CAu2DevWo9XlfetH/NcQIrRvALyhWZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qQV4Ua9GBKQHsNf57S8HewsSLIeVzAEUicZ1Cg+y7eTZUhFFRp6oMOmDPYjzDaD4Oz Dj49bQ0oW2d5i7+oeNIiGTxD3pFKe0M5egdcfn5TvTjcmO9jIelHTW3g2E8WZuZ+//mC jQXZthZQcbqMOpCeydgCK1rh4A3XE1RL3rmYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.110.5 with SMTP id i5mr1759912ebc.58.1248963701106; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:21:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A71455C.2070506@netfence.it> References: <4A71455C.2070506@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Andrea Venturoli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:21:42 -0000 Did you add the "-fopenmp" flag to both the compiler and the linker? Both need it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 14:58:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E853C106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seraphyn@seraphyn.deveth.org) Received: from dd17120.kasserver.com (dd17120.kasserver.com [85.13.137.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E8C8FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seraphyn@seraphyn.deveth.org) Received: from deveth.org (HSI-KBW-085-216-033-034.hsi.kabelbw.de [85.216.33.34]) by dd17120.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428C61874040B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:47:55 +0200 From: Christian Grube To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090730144754.GE11346@deveth.org> References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> <1248954937.26720.1327510041@webmail.messagingengine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt (Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.2 (2.6.26-2-686)) X-Message-Flag: Please do not send HTML-Mails. Thanks. Cc: Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Christian Crube List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:58:25 -0000 Hi Andrew, > I may be misunderstanding the issue with SMTP. Is the poster just > needing to send email through a non-local email server? If so, the > port msmtp is very easy to use and works very well with mutt. >=20 > Andrew I've changed from Debian (used mutt there) to FreeBSD and it works very well. My issue was, that i used the .muttrc and some Profiles in my .mutt ( as example profile.chris, profile.seraphyn, profile.etc..) with muttprofile to have an allinone-MUA. Using buildin smtp/imap to use my Server at my hoster, SPAM/Virus etc is made there. OfflineIMAP for Backup. But after starting mutt-devel in FreeBSD i get following Errors: Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 1: file_charset: Unb= ekannte Variable. Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 13: header_cache: Un= bekannte Variable. Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 20: smtp_url: Unbeka= nnte Variable. Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 21: smtp_authenticat= ors: Unbekannte Variable. Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 22: smtp_pass: Unbek= annte Variable. >> Unbekannte Variable =3D means not known variable It is possible for me to spend my time without the file_charset, but the ot= her ones gives me some problems. Now I've to find out, what patches mutt in debian lenny is using to provide= them in FreeBSD. Mutt is much important for me, I dislike any GUI-click-MUAs. At the moment, I'm using mutt on my Srv ( till now debian driven, would be = changed soon). mutt in Debian is 1.15.18 and I saw the patches with mutt -v. So I've to keep up the good work and will post again after I've changed the= behaviour to a for me well known mutt;) If interrested mutt -v under Debian: http://deveth.pastebin.com/f1f082f38 Doesn't seems to be a problem for me really, hope so;) Greetings and Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 15:03:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A083F106564A; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3378FC18; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWXAe-0000n5-Io; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:55 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MWXAd-0000CJ-8Z; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:52 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6UF3ouk032728; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6UF3nhA032727; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:49 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: gahr@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090730150349.GA31194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090729193532.GA58354@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090730074328.GG46857@gahrfit.gahr.ch> <20090730090842.GB64840@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090730131135.GA57352@gahrfit.gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090730131135.GA57352@gahrfit.gahr.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port lang/g95 installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:03:57 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:11:35PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 2009-Jul-30, 10:08, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:43:28AM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > > On 2009-Jul-29, 20:35, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > this is a regression > > > > > > > > after some recent port updates, on 7.2-stable, 8.0-current and 8.0-beta2 > > > > port lang/g95 gives: > > > > > > > > % g95 > > > > g95: installation problem, cannot exec 'f951': No such file or directory > > > > > > Fixed, thanks. > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-July/177135.html > > > > thank you, but now there is a linker error: > > > > % g95 > > ld: cannot find -lf95 > > Please set your LIBRARY_PATH environment variable to $prefix/lib. thank you -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 15:04:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32073106567C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF488FC27 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so778560ewy.43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.197 with SMTP id v47mr257381wed.12.1248966290222; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nognu.de (pD9EAA430.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.234.164.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm2034329eyg.15.2009.07.30.08.04.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:05:15 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: Christian Grube Message-ID: <20090730150515.GC961@nognu.de> References: <20090728164933.GA23065@deveth.org> <1c3ed640d6dc05f4e8e7c1de45167a0c.squirrel@email.polands.org> <1248954937.26720.1327510041@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20090730144754.GE11346@deveth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090730144754.GE11346@deveth.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:04:53 -0000 Christian Grube wrote: > It is possible for me to spend my time without the file_charset, but the other ones gives me some > problems. > Now I've to find out, what patches mutt in debian lenny is using to provide them in FreeBSD. > Mutt is much important for me, I dislike any GUI-click-MUAs. > At the moment, I'm using mutt on my Srv ( till now debian driven, would be changed soon). > mutt in Debian is 1.15.18 and I saw the patches with mutt -v. > So I've to keep up the good work and will post again after I've changed the behaviour to a for > me well known mutt;) > If interrested mutt -v under Debian: http://deveth.pastebin.com/f1f082f38 > Doesn't seems to be a problem for me really, hope so;) Christian, please read my reply to you, i guess it's all explained there... Cheers, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 15:27:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1946106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38668FC15 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so803433fxm.36 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:27:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GrLUKkS4rhIENQuKKs2/jQMN6oMQdmqOKwTBLpl6jJM=; b=bRb33MThT+zo83xWypmsjS3K6tIdA33lVWfj7BeMcFZVb56XPvD9symQUGPRsNqaz9 WLWYui5Ng+IWX1xTN4egj7ev7SZNQ2iO68ClQV4vC6sRPpL6D45+Iv1Vgq5E4l4TAqDX UBlYnGnazVpI3ovaj5Lf25j+PXfJtlOoQCrYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=e8wPZIW0hFPETkfV2Yx/8t1adS5nSZT8ldT2vNpVaVltUN82MzFq2ZcPdqNTAQ4JEd I5wy7fWYaKOJrcAerVC+ilxVHPx84tcPGDd/yyR4K9whCjILkAxYuGUWQs+5Gz5c7mP2 cvdTD1TrlRc8gjP9E9UkJqXHWFtDSt0U1FaNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.175.9 with SMTP id c9mr795709mup.3.1248967658546; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:27:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907301003.41741.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <200907301003.41741.lists@jnielsen.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:27:38 +0100 Message-ID: From: chris scott To: John Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Richard Fairbanks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Striping a live file system RAID 10 help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:27:40 -0000 2009/7/30 John Nielsen > On Wednesday 29 July 2009 15:54:42 Richard Fairbanks wrote: > > OK, so this is what I want to do. I have 4 big fast drives that I want to > > run in RAID 10 (1+0). So, I'll need to mirror two sets of two disks, then > > stripe those two mirrors. So, how do I do this if I want this striped set > > of mirrors to be my entire fs? I can create both mirrors and have the > > entire fs on one of the mirrors (*mirror0*), but then I need to stripe it > > with the other mirrors (*mirror1*), and trying to create a stripe > > (*stripe*) from that a set of mirrors in which one of the mirrors > contains > > the live file system does not work, obviously. > > > > I was thinking, very generally, of creating the fstab file that I'll need > > to point to the stripe instead of ad4 for example, rsyncing everything to > a > > disk on a diffferent server, using a live CD to create the stripe, then > > rsyncing back to the stripe. I don't know if this will work, and haven't > > even come to a conclusion of the particulars needed. > > When changing disk configurations on the same server I generally do > everything > by hand, then use dump+restore (rather than rsync) to move (UFS) > filesystems > around. (ZFS has zfs send/recv). > > > Of course, if there is a way to create the striped set off mirrors before > > installation then installing onto that stripe, that'd be perfect. I don't > > know if that can be done. I'm sure someone has configured a RAID 10 > > "standalone" system before. (Oh, I'm using 7.2). I'm just stuck at this > > point! > > You need to consider where/how you are going to boot the system. It's > straightforward to boot from a gmirror'ed UFS filesystem (the BIOS just > uses > one disk and thinks everything is normal), but you can't do the same from a > stripe. You will either need a separate disk/device for your / or /boot > partition or you will need to use slices/partitions on your disks. I > frequently have the root filesystem on a small gmirror (partitions on 2 > disks) then use the equivalent "extra" space on the remaining disk(s) for > swap. > > Youi should be able to do this pre-install from the Fixit shell. Boot to > the > live CD, enter the shell, kldload geom_mirror and geom_stripe, create the > mirrors, create the stripe, exit the shell, start the install, and tell > sysinstall to use the device node under /dev/stripe for your filesystem. > > Alternatively you could just do a regular install to one of the disks and > do > everything post-install. In this case you'd still create two mirrors but > one > of them would only contain a single disk at first. Then create your stripe, > dump/restore your files, update fstab (in both locations if needed), reboot > using the stripe, then add the original system disk into its mirror. > > If you provide more details of how you want your setup to look I can give > you > a specific walkthrough if needed. > > JN > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > one thing i find invaluable whan doing fancy disk installs is my bootable use stick with a full bsd installation on it. Much nicer than fixit. Also if the kit is in the data center it means I can ssh into the box rather than having to sit in there I used the howto below to set up the stick http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 ive also used this to do zfs boot zfsboot install http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRootWithZFSboot#installFreeBSD If you dont want to do a zfs one and use gstripe on top of gmirror but dont want to partition up all the drives you could of course leave the use stick in permanently, and have the root fs on there. Just make sure fs that take lots of writes dont reside on the stick ie /tmp /var Also when you create your file systems make sure you label them with newfs's -L flag. It can make the devices you need to mount slightly easier to use. Also consider the use of gjournal as it could save you a lot of time with not having to fsck large file systems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 16:53:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ACC1065678 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CE18FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so865669ewy.43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:53:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RaYVpvfb7o+ZNwCPFzJUpO4LhIQ6y3fQfdhk71br0uc=; b=uYXiJyz9OpqQx0cbMaAWq96MUgrFznI6K9ZIsIQqED6f8TjEPv6/t97aTObYLhJqXJ S9Pu83XwcKyX+fu9/0UQAJpwdpRP9GLWBqIAsuPriORucZtiHHDmFq9q6lkaR9xkVxNr rlg3WAhP9tUaTSaXCL4miENvRGIasq9Cu2qPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E0qWGwfq9taqLBdu2E+323eOqcEsNcnJgkMN/2lz+7L7/z6Wl6vH3aBC/JPmsLROP2 Z8GWT0Dvt/zBhch37jm0KyB4JqGIFDhYUd9UMqJe9DAbtV7WR3wncDvgQ3Lp8ecFgxwd DZTEwZokYJRZWlE1MQheVBlWhbmKD7gT5QDLc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.104.16 with SMTP id b16mr1942649ebc.70.1248972832500; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:53:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A71CBD9.7020001@diamondbox.dk> References: <20090729220911.GA656@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090730070749.GA19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71CBD9.7020001@diamondbox.dk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:53:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Nikolaj Thygesen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parallel debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:53:56 -0000 > Valgrind is rather hopeless on fbsd for multithreaded programs Interesting. Thanks for the note. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 16:54:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BC9106567D for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from csmtp1.one.com (csmtp1.one.com [195.47.247.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246CD8FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from diamond.diamondbox.dk (0x4dd7c703.adsl.cybercity.dk [77.215.199.3]) by csmtp1.one.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EE41BC006AE; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4A71CBD9.7020001@diamondbox.dk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:35:37 +0200 From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <20090729220911.GA656@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090730070749.GA19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090730070749.GA19973@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parallel debugging X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:54:47 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > gprof is part of the base system. Valgrind is available in ports, but > only for the i386 architecture. > > Roland > Unfortunately, Valgrind is rather hopeless on fbsd for multithreaded programs. I had to resort to using Ubuntu when Valgrinding. N :o) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 17:17:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE81E106568D for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D08E8FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp-88-217-83-175.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.83.175]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9665184A8F0A; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:17:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6UHHEUt002237; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:17:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:17:14 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Charles Oppermann Message-ID: <20090730171714.GA2194@current.Sisis.de> References: <20090724171000.GA2427@current.Sisis.de> <4A6AFAD8.3000103@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A6AFAD8.3000103@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Evolution 2.24.5 && Exchange && can't Subscribe to Other user's Calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:17:17 -0000 El da Saturday, July 25, 2009 a las 08:30:16AM -0400, Charles Oppermann escribi: > >$ nslookup -type=SRV '_kerberos._udp.oa.OCLC.ORG' > >Server: yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > >Address: yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy#53 > > > >Non-authoritative answer: > >_kerberos._udp.oa.OCLC.ORG service = 0 100 88 oadc5server.oa.oclc.org. > >_kerberos._udp.oa.OCLC.ORG service = 0 100 88 oadc01ewbe.oa.oclc.org. > >_kerberos._udp.oa.OCLC.ORG service = 0 100 88 oadc1server.oa.oclc.org. > >_kerberos._udp.oa.OCLC.ORG service = 0 100 88 oadc2server.oa.oclc.org. > >... > > > >Why Evo is asking for '_kerberos._udp.OCLC.ORG' and not for > >'_kerberos._udp.oa.OCLC.ORG' > > > Active Directory LDAP schemes can be mis-configured and yet still appear > to work. Check earlier to see if Evolution or PAM (if you're using > PAM), was given oa.oclc.org or just oclc.org. > > What domain are you in? It's possible that Evolution assumes that SMTP > address reflects your domain. If you are in the OA domain, it should > not hurt to list your address as xxxx@oa.oclc.org. Mail sent to > xxxx@oclc.org will still find you, and you can set the reply-to: header > field to xxxx@oclc.org. > > I have this issue at work, as for testing purposes my email address is > currently chuckop@exchange.microsoft.com, but the alias > chuckop@microsoft.com works as well. But my email client keeps wanting > to send @exchange.microsoft.com which confuses my friends into thinking > my email address has changed. > > Good luck and let us know. Here is what I got from the Exchange server Admin: Mattias, I am still looking into this issue. Your settings are correct in Evolution. This appears to be an issue with Evolution itself based on my testing and the information I found on Google.... Do you want to see the screens of my mail settings in Evolution, Charles? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 17:41:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C25C106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171598FC1F for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNL00A1TVSBUS60@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:40:58 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:41:22 -0000 What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot sector screwed up? The /usr files should be ok but how to access? I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. Surely FreeBSD must be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. TIA. PJ -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 18:10:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2CA106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504848FC15 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n6UIAbgP032143 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:37 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n6UIAb5b032142; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:37 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 65E33B7E5; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:43:54 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4A6C071A.3020800@infracaninophile.co.uk> (message from Matthew Seaman on Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:34:50 +0100) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090730164354.65E33B7E5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:43:54 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: limit to number of files seen by ls? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:10:38 -0000 >> Karl Vogel wrote: K> The main reason I stick with 1000 is because directories are read K> linearly unless you're using something like ReiserFS... >> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:34:50 +0100, >> Matthew Seaman said: M> You mean filesystems like FreeBSD UFS2 with DIRHASH? The problem with M> linear time scanning of directory contents has been solved for awhile... Sure, that's why I said "something like". Not everyone is using the latest and greatest, especially if you have anything to do with the public sector. It's not unusual to see people using servers that are 8-10 years old and run around the clock, and they can't upgrade because they're not allowed the downtime. I'm not saying we should act like everyone's using the moral equivalent of FreeBSD 2.2.7. I am saying that if you have a design decision to make, you'll solve more problems than you cause if you add the extra 2-3 lines of code to hash a huge directory into several smaller ones. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Since we have to speak well of the dead, let's knock them while they're alive. --John Sloan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 18:32:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E575C1065672 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B7B8FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2191627qyk.3 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:32:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=g6yaDcNaR2Zhk/6X4qfk4vQ8kLfGDIqR0kxpWm3RFhE=; b=Taw5l4YQAq2nDY+2nuQ/O52Wx2/l7RcVl+u0L7hbDXTBO46zZDVr6wxyL25qRY7Wqk ScLFG2RjOU5rRyZ7SZF+/gMzyUYTwhUerR+uxsF6GZLFpT9zNZ4Xq/Yw8VPpt44flwBo KPuvsqv+0Wj6sPY+sCg2j4xIk/ovf8/gBmy54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:organization :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=edWjH6Vgt6MFpqyZTb8wFErWVwWKvL/lyfdxVaEqO0WoXhYVFJHeeF+tWmx9804j6N Lv5NEHkNakOb+BvgmbVb0E0vo+8cuC6a2WwDWOowUca83kEKzPPeaxhBQO4Wva4jgB4+ GKLJ5Wp2qFp0/ILC56HRbuw/bN8nGZRojDEgc= Received: by 10.220.85.66 with SMTP id n2mr1880423vcl.5.1248976914348; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Chuckop1 (145-115.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com [70.127.115.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm15885ywh.14.2009.07.30.11.01.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:01:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles Oppermann" To: "'Matthias Apitz'" References: <20090724171000.GA2427@current.Sisis.de> <4A6AFAD8.3000103@gmail.com> <20090730171714.GA2194@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090730171714.GA2194@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:01:48 -0400 Organization: Copper Software Message-ID: <003001ca113f$cfd8e370$6f8aaa50$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcoROZaL9fXfQk1MS3uCsPBsG5hNlQABf4cw Content-Language: en-us Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Evolution 2.24.5 && Exchange && can't Subscribe to Other user's Calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:32:58 -0000 >> Do you want to see the screens of my mail settings in Evolution, Charles? Sure. Have you tried setting up Evolution using the xxxx@oa.oclc.org variant of your address? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 18:50:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CDD106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f199.google.com (mail-yx0-f199.google.com [209.85.210.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68838FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so3819124yxe.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KC98jsmK2MpDJI1lSqfkr+lmBDhxvwwNIeqPNzSXfgA=; b=JDpW9FZH07opm+MfNX0VgtDx+eZttJtejnFeGn9SLIIOSfD/NlwELIOkybvqEkLEz8 glTrccoOrGi7KUzr0deKJ2x2QHFxMBToEmV7yzSVYTh66I+xflZJt9Wh+baet0WRimUC JP9kv2Q+q+82wf/T1AZQkiMPvkx1WlX8lNpoE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i/C5VNLcV5Xfjkicggln8R5QkwjJ6QWhRYtjXKklu0+bboYsOO+VEboBxokmWnTavQ rbI4vXZbDawp94HZOwwQoeuoxjrgvoFpxqNzWaa1w87VMX5PDa402/9zdDGRWuoCG+WT uUae/tT80eN6iDKzCOX+7X18HyUm0dhK/EUkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.172.13 with SMTP id u13mr972070ane.46.1248979802091; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:50:01 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:50:03 -0000 On 7/30/09, PJ wrote: > What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot > sector screwed up? > The /usr files should be ok but how to access? > I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to > deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! > Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of > recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. Surely FreeBSD must > be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? > I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally > understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. > TIA. > PJ That's when the livefs comes to the rescue -- if you cannot boot at all Otherwise single-user boot works most of the time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 18:55:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1959C1065674 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from fish.cia.com (fish.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5FE8FC16 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) Received: from cable-72-53-39-159.cia.com ([72.53.39.159] helo=ihorp.ath.cx) by fish.cia.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MWamq-0005h4-LW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:55:32 -0600 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.16.50.125]) (authenticated bits=0) by ihorp.ath.cx (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6UItSZL078011 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihor@cia.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ihorp.ath.cx: Host [172.16.50.125] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4A71EC9F.2090001@cia.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:55:27 -0700 From: Ihor Prystay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Question References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:55:34 -0000 You may check the location of sasl2 lib which sendmail is compiled with - do ldd on sendmail executable. And verify if Sendmail.conf in the sasl2 lib folder doesn't have any restrictions on available mechs. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The liblogin.so is in directory > > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so -> liblogin.so.2 > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17172 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > > There is only confAUTH_MECHANISMS in .mc file, not confAUTH_OPTIONS > > dnl set SASL options > dnl -------------------------------- > TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:58 PM > To: FreeBSD Question > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to > recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. > Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do > make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available > only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working > configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad > idea to do authentication clear text). > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! >> >> New server >> ========= >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> >> Functional server >> ============== >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are >> class and option listed >> >> C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN >> in the 250-AUTH list. >> BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does >> matter or not.. >> >> Reed >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the >> output. >> Check >> 250-AUTH >> According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN >> mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >>> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >>> different? >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the >>> functional >>> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Ihor Prystay >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >>> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >>> >>> Ihor >>> >>> >>> >>> Reed Lai wrote: >>>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>>> Sendmail >>>> >>>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>>> Version 8.14.2 >>>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>>> SASLv2 >>>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>>> >>>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>>> ======================================================== >>>> >>>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>>> >>>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>>> Connected to localhost. >>>> Escape character is '^]'. >>>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 >>>> 21:19:40 >>>> +0800 (CST) >>>> ehlo localhost >>>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>>> 250-PIPELINING >>>> 250-8BITMIME >>>> 250-SIZE >>>> 250-DSN >>>> 250-ETRN >>>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>>> 250-DELIVERBY >>>> 250 HELP >>>> >>>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>>> >>>> Reed >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Reed Lai >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>>> >>>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>>> >>>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>>> >>>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>>> the >>>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>>> >>>> The maillog of functional server >>>> ====================== >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: >>>> from=, >>>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>>> daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>>> >>>> The other one >>>> ========= >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> ruleset=check_rcpt, >>>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> from=, >>>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>>> >>>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>>> >>>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Reed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 19:05:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771F0106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63708FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6UJ4xUC006873; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:04:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2CE52BAAE; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:04:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:05:02 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: > What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot > sector screwed up? Do you mean the filesystem's superblock? Or the slice table (partitions in PC parlance) or the freebsd partitions (disk labels)? Because the boot sector is not part of any filesystem.=20 The best way to try repairs is to make a complete copy of the partition with dd(1), and experiment on the copy. That way you cannot further screw up the original! To check a UFS filesystem, use fsck_ffs(8). First, try if the preen option '-p' is sufficient to fix the filesystem. If the superblock is corrupt, try using the -b option to specify an alternate superblock. See the manual page. > The /usr files should be ok but how to access? Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. > I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to > deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! > Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of > recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. Surely FreeBSD must > be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? Maybe the sleuth kit (sysutils/sleuthkit) can help you recover files.=20 > I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally > understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpx7toACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXrpwCfYBS/yv3xZ2G23roo8uWczVWs H94Amwefm4R7s/7JUWT5kNai/xWOH9QY =CWMj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 19:21:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBCF106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B497A8FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNM008AX0EVBHJ1@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:20:55 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:21:11 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >> sector screwed up? >> > > Do you mean the filesystem's superblock? Or the slice table (partitions > in PC parlance) or the freebsd partitions (disk labels)? Because the > boot sector is not part of any filesystem. > > The best way to try repairs is to make a complete copy of the partition > with dd(1), and experiment on the copy. That way you cannot further screw > up the original! > > To check a UFS filesystem, use fsck_ffs(8). First, try if the preen > option '-p' is sufficient to fix the filesystem. If the superblock is > corrupt, try using the -b option to specify an alternate superblock. See > the manual page. > > >> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >> > > Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. > how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? >> I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to >> deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! >> Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of >> recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. Surely FreeBSD must >> be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? >> > > Maybe the sleuth kit (sysutils/sleuthkit) can help you recover files. > How would that be? I can't access the disk or the file system and I can't boot.... > >> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >> > > Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. > Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't all be that stupid.) > Roland > -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 19:22:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87262106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAA18FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNM00FOR0H42GE1@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A71F2E8.5000105@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:22:16 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Tim Judd References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:22:34 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > On 7/30/09, PJ wrote: > >> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >> sector screwed up? >> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >> I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to >> deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! >> Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of >> recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. Surely FreeBSD must >> be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? >> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >> TIA. >> PJ >> > > > That's when the livefs comes to the rescue -- if you cannot boot at all > > Otherwise single-user boot works most of the time > how does livefs come into the picture here? What is it? How do you use it? Single-user? if the kernel is not accessible, how do I boot? -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 19:24:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5631065696 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB5C8FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MWbEd-0000pQ-40 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:15 +0000 Received: from pool-72-75-50-49.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.50.49]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:15 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-50-49.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:15 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:24:13 -0400 Lines: 75 Message-ID: References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-50-49.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:18 -0000 PJ wrote: > What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot > sector screwed up? Usually there are more than 1 file system present. The MBR will have no bearing on any other than the one you need to boot from, and this is usually the "/" - aka "root". Having a screwed up MBR will only prevent a boot and generally shouldn't change or cause any corruption to the other file systems. Caveat being what occurred that produced the situation in the first place. Look in here for a list of .iso files: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/ There are the boot-only and a livefs images available. The boot-only would be used for a network installation. What you want is the livefs image. Download and burn to a CD. > The /usr files should be ok but how to access? Boot from the LiveFS CD. There will be a very basic minimum system present that contains some tools which may be useful. Once booted you should be able to mount the problematic file systems from the hard disk and possibly make repairs. It is probably best to utilize the same version as the OS you are trying to repair. > I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to > deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! It may be that you need to locate something you can delete so that the file system is now "un-full". > Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of > recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. There are recovery processes available, but mostly this involves a knowledgeable sysadmin and not some magic bullet automated software. This skill requires an in-depth understanding of how the OS functions, and this can take a while to learn. Along with making some mistakes along the way to have something with which to "practice" on. :-) > Surely FreeBSD must > be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? Why would FreeBSD be concerned with being like $MS? Going down this path is a waste of time. Forget the $MS and learn the FreeBSD. The learning curve is initially very steep if all you've ever known is $MS, but if you plug away at it you will at some point crest the hill and have a "light bulb goes on" moment where all of the sudden a lot of disparate material solidifies into something cohesive. > I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally > understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. > TIA. > PJ Not knowing more details can lead to dangerous advice in this kind of situation. It may be something as simple as boot0cfg -B -d 0 is all you need. Blindly giving and following such advice without knowing all the circumstances may quickly escalate into disaster. An example would be something like you are triple booting 3 different OS's with Grub and us not knowing that. You should probably read the man pages for fdisk, disklabel, and boot0cfg and see/learn what particular command will extricate you from the situation you are presently more familiar with than us. Get it wrong and it will only get worse. But there are at least 3 ways present in those docs alone which can be used to write out a new MBR. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 19:33:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7F3106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FC18FC1F for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNM00MN20YQB061@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:32:49 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:33:04 -0000 I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it on an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplayer9 with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 does not either, hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configuration file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I can install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this crap... and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have gone through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 19:45:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DB51065674 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC0C8FC3F for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNM00K5S1KA3390@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A71F86A.6010603@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:45:46 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: nightrecon@hotmail.com References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:45:48 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > PJ wrote: > > >> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >> sector screwed up? >> > > Usually there are more than 1 file system present. The MBR will have no > bearing on any other than the one you need to boot from, and this is usually > the "/" - aka "root". Having a screwed up MBR will only prevent a boot and > generally shouldn't change or cause any corruption to the other file > systems. Caveat being what occurred that produced the situation in the first > place. > > Look in here for a list of .iso files: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.2/ > > There are the boot-only and a livefs images available. The boot-only would > be used for a network installation. What you want is the livefs image. > Download and burn to a CD. > > >> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >> > > Boot from the LiveFS CD. There will be a very basic minimum system present > that contains some tools which may be useful. Once booted you should be able > to mount the problematic file systems from the hard disk and possibly make > repairs. It is probably best to utilize the same version as the OS you are > trying to repair. > > >> I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to >> deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! >> > > It may be that you need to locate something you can delete so that the file > system is now "un-full". > > >> Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of >> recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. >> > > There are recovery processes available, but mostly this involves a > knowledgeable sysadmin and not some magic bullet automated software. This > skill requires an in-depth understanding of how the OS functions, and this > can take a while to learn. Along with making some mistakes along the way to > have something with which to "practice" on. :-) > > >> Surely FreeBSD must >> be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? >> > > Why would FreeBSD be concerned with being like $MS? Going down this path is > a waste of time. Forget the $MS and learn the FreeBSD. The learning curve is > initially very steep if all you've ever known is $MS, but if you plug away > at it you will at some point crest the hill and have a "light bulb goes on" > moment where all of the sudden a lot of disparate material solidifies into > something cohesive. > > >> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >> TIA. >> PJ >> > > Not knowing more details can lead to dangerous advice in this kind of > situation. It may be something as simple as boot0cfg -B -d 0 is all you > need. Blindly giving and following such advice without knowing all the > circumstances may quickly escalate into disaster. An example would be > something like you are triple booting 3 different OS's with Grub and us not > knowing that. > > You should probably read the man pages for fdisk, disklabel, and boot0cfg > and see/learn what particular command will extricate you from the situation > you are presently more familiar with than us. Get it wrong and it will only > get worse. But there are at least 3 ways present in those docs alone which > can be used to write out a new MBR. > > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Mike, I am not particularly interested in becoming a guru on FreeBSD. I just want to be able to use it productively... by that I do not mean make money, but get something achieved in the way of programming stuff for my own website etc. Having to "go back to school" to understand all the stuff about FBSD is a bit overkill. The real problem is that the instructions for upgrading and updating trip all over themselves and confuse the shit out of most of us who are not FBSD experts. Funny, that there are so many posts and wueries on google to fix things on FreeBSD. I found one that was very clear and the upgrade worked... yet there is something wrong with the upgrade since I cannot get X to recognize a puny little mouse. And consequently I have no idea if Firefox is working or if flashplayer is working or acroread9 or anything for that matter. And there are no explanations that are readily evident on what to use, when, how and where to use the different programs line the linux emulation... there are several and then there are sever flavors of flshplayer (flashplayer9, linux-f8-flashplayer9, and a couple more relating to linux f10 - those ridiculous descriptions about the ports are leally a waste of time - why not just say do some heavy research before using any of this stuff.... I do appreciate the help you are offering as well as all the other guys who take time out to help us. It sounds, from what you are telling me, like it may be possible to do something with my problem computer... will try. Thanks again. PJ -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 20:06:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1068B106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9448FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1053252ywh.14 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:06:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lEdONDYNYWaKBdT4X9ocaFtgGK+AjlOuJXTzn9UWAok=; b=MQ/VsF20c7lFhEm10BMjOafJMndG4XonxcPrVnkW37x6t+dUOlbAnXHRx68MkklemH wrEbvCa2U3qFHX5W7UokC1dUAExPjhz4fxk7EWo4xFyiExpcDq9sKazL01lzn9MKfkMh EUCw8hslkfTGunoMf61DdLX+BtG4t2o0//+/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wKoKk0c4oJJK6yFyPNFqvkgsmpHYbEhrc6mVhZg+fVGoq5/iMmim7F5l3GPfRorXfI IT7Nz5wQTfBK/M/e0iyZt5gBqSDOVVOFrY2lWf9UyvZWG7JT/ytGWyDf1gQgRNd/0Y/W lYbcd6siJrnxDKLa0LDB1J5BRKHvr1xlq3u6o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.49.15 with SMTP id w15mr2871936ybw.50.1248984370558; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:06:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:06:09 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:06:12 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, PJ wrote: > I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 > Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it on > an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. > This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplayer9 > with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 does > not either, > hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to > off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configuration > file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is > going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... > oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I can > install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this crap... > and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have gone > through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. > If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? > I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. > > There's nothing wrong i386, at least in the regard you're suggesting. Try searching deeper within yourself for the issue. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 20:23:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EC6106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466848FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6UKNRKj029131 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:23:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:23:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200907302023.n6UKNREJ029130@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: today's cvsup introduces kernel build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:23:30 -0000 After running cvsup a few minutes ago, an attempt to build a new kernel failed with: ===> zyd (depend) @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/hellas /usr/src/sys/modules/zyd/../../dev/usb/if_zyd.c cc -c -O -pipe -march=prescott -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../dev/ata/ata-all.c ../../../dev/ata/ata-all.c: In function 'ata_device_ioctl': ../../../dev/ata/ata-all.c:454: error: request for member 'max_iosize' in something not a structure or union ../../../dev/ata/ata-all.c:454: error: request for member 'max_iosize' in something not a structure or union *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/hellas. hellas# Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 20:43:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8101065672 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from lmailproxy01.edpnet.net (lmailproxy01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03D8FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (77.109.106.169.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.106.169] (may be forged)) by lmailproxy01.edpnet.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6UK2nJn028085; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:02:49 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:02:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1248984169.980.8.camel@rivendell.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at lmailproxy01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on lmailproxy01.edpnet.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:55 -0000 On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 15:32 -0400, PJ wrote: > I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 > Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it on > an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. > This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplayer9 This is probably due to a buggy bios, try to disable "USB legacy support", it should fix the problem (at least on mine) > with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 does > not either, Flash or Acroread have nothing to do with FreeBSD. Emulation is always something "hazardous", it might work, it might not. > hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to define "useless" ? It works like a charm here. Did you read the FAQ on freebsd.org/gnome ? > off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configuration > file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is > going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... > oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I can > install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this crap... > and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have gone > through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. > If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? > I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. > -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 20:50:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD90106566B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=455b177c3=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1088FC24 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=455b177c3=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,297,1246856400"; d="scan'208";a="15631825" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2009 15:38:12 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BADA84E702; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:38:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:38:12 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: PJ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4A71F86A.6010603@videotron.ca> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <4A71F86A.6010603@videotron.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:50:10 -0000 --On Thursday, July 30, 2009 14:45:46 -0500 PJ wrote: > > Mike, > I am not particularly interested in becoming a guru on FreeBSD. I just > want to be able to use it productively... by that I do not mean make > money, but get something achieved in the way of programming stuff for my > own website etc. Having to "go back to school" to understand all the > stuff about FBSD is a bit overkill. > The real problem is that the instructions for upgrading and updating > trip all over themselves and confuse the shit out of most of us who are > not FBSD experts. Funny, that there are so many posts and wueries on > google to fix things on FreeBSD. I found one that was very clear and the > upgrade worked... > yet there is something wrong with the upgrade since I cannot get X to > recognize a puny little mouse. You need to run both dbus and hal if you want Xorg to detect your mouse and keyboard. That requires you to add two lines to /etc/rc.conf; hald_enable=YES and dbus_enable=YES. > And consequently I have no idea if > Firefox is working or if flashplayer is working or acroread9 or anything > for that matter. If you're doing website development and you need to have flash working you need to find another OS. Flash on FreeBSD is unreliable at best. Move to Ubuntu or CentOS or Gentoo or some other Linux flavor that can run Flash natively. > And there are no explanations that are readily evident > on what to use, when, how and where to use the different programs line > the linux emulation... No matter what you use, there is going to be a learning curve. I've just started using Vista Enterprise, and it drives me nuts. Things aren't where I'm used to them being, and I can't find what I used to know was there. And I was editing the registry in Windows 3.1 when many people didn't even know there was a registry. All OSes take time to learn, some more than others. FreeBSD is on the steeper side of the learning curve table, so maybe you shouldn't invest the time. Life is too short to be constantly frustrated. > > I do appreciate the help you are offering as well as all the other guys > who take time out to help us. > It sounds, from what you are telling me, like it may be possible to do > something with my problem computer... will try. If you are willing to invest the time, FreeBSD can be a great OS to use. But nobody but you can run your box, and no amount of help can overcome an unwillingness to take the time to learn. That's not an indictment of you. Your priorities are not others' priorities. But don't keep banging your head against the FreeBSD wall if you just want to get an OS up and running and using Flash. Hell, buy a Mac. Then you'll have the best of both worlds. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 20:50:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C621065670 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA618FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so1024117fxm.36 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:50:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XMCL8NGYAeN+0zuz28+FIlZ1SZOU9WEK4OMQ4bXGGAg=; b=Aj2jccSdi7J6SRPqs9ogFL/ujy6IaGO259QycvLBR3UTAaalVsWtwEqliMplZNKwm8 CEG9aV04SYihb1XYSwh64ZAJPU5wuMIx3InidNVi/uyaKFEgGTeVHoD3FWpetRPRAGYD zkpt0+McgF77iGCf5viGunoVx11P+0TxgFB8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DAAKkR7NhCifm/mEGBxIULfchHHxIr09YK+qvHemIvhdrxKoJoZeHhAIZpre3pSmSt Dc+Dy+ayz1pyZuvY6AlVPMXRFiNhHibX84nV+BdtquN62GQcTlD59SJ0NwtmOOLPwIQm fZMkXADWGIliu274YH+AX++hR3UTfnzGRrTe8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.179.1 with SMTP id g1mr650710mup.63.1248987011873; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:50:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:50:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:50:13 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Vande More wro= te: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, PJ wrote: > >> I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 >> Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it on >> an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. >> This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplayer9 >> with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 does >> not either, >> hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to >> off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configuration >> file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is >> going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... >> oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I can >> install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this crap.= .. >> and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have gone >> through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. >> If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? >> I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. >> >> There's nothing wrong i386, at least in the regard you're suggesting. = =A0Try > searching deeper within yourself for the issue. > > -- > Adam Vande More I don't think that answer was helpful. PJ is not alone in frustration regarding 7.2. For many users, it's hard to tell whether the balance of difficulties lies in bugs or new manual configuration requirements of 7.2. I think much of the frustration lies in our perception of "STABLE". When we upgraded from 7.1 (or 7.0), we expected a fairly smooth ride. I had frustrations related to X (hal), mounting drives (hal), printing (cups vs applications), and printing (gimp vs hpijs). Yes, I read the (uncentralized) documentation. I even posted the urls of a few pages on this list for others to find. Again, the effort feels inconsistent with "STABLE" -- my perception only, I'm sure 7.2 meets a technical definition. Those of us who upgraded further, to 7.2p1 and beyond, faced additional challenges related to the change in the default version of Python. Keep in mind, for many of us, this is all in addition to massive changes in KDE. Simply put, I had a much easier time when I installed 5.0. Your mileage may have varied. FreeBSD is still my choice for web and database serving. As for the desktop and printing, I will probably use Mac OS X until a few months after FreeBSD 8.0 is released. And that's okay. There is no law that states an operating system has to meet every computing need. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 21:08:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D9106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8A58FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5E97E818; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:08:02 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:08:00 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Adam Vande More , Andrew Gould , PJ Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:08:04 -0000 On Thursday 30 July 2009 12:50:11 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, PJ wrote: > >> I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 > >> Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it on > >> an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. > >> This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplayer9 > >> with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 does > >> not either, > >> hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to > >> off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configuration > >> file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is > >> going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... > >> oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I can > >> install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this > >> crap... and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have gone > >> through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. > >> If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? > >> I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. > >> > >> There's nothing wrong i386, at least in the regard you're suggesting. > >> Try > > > > searching deeper within yourself for the issue. > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > > I don't think that answer was helpful. It's the right answer though. > PJ is not alone in frustration regarding 7.2. For many users, it's > hard to tell whether the balance of difficulties lies in bugs or new > manual configuration requirements of 7.2. > > I think much of the frustration lies in our perception of "STABLE". > When we upgraded from 7.1 (or 7.0), we expected a fairly smooth ride. > I had frustrations related to X (hal), mounting drives (hal), printing > (cups vs applications), and printing (gimp vs hpijs). Yes, I read the > (uncentralized) documentation. I think release CD's should not contain packages anymore, cause everything you describe here, has absolutely nothing to do with FreeBSD 7.2, but with 3rd party software that happened to be packaged at release time. You should really be using PCBSD if you want a packaged desktop system, for which the developers claim responsibility and for which much (if not all) of the configuration has been done for you. When using FreeBSD you are expected to understand the handbook, configure things on your own and be able to troubleshoot problems and/or provide the right information in case you need help. If you can't do this, then FreeBSD is not the right tool for you. No harm in that, nobody forces you to use FreeBSD nor will convict you for using an OS that suits you better. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 21:10:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAF41065670 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f199.google.com (mail-yx0-f199.google.com [209.85.210.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1818FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yxe37 with SMTP id 37so4058681yxe.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RAYvWPXqkwYZzEf4yYxJBuPsOJ2NRy/WiOKfqqmShw8=; b=cJYerUEmf56cNMqxJnhgPjYFoSaXtu+oLXOJwHmbHNyv+PckBRxn3QT8xfYKCd6d0q uIwhXfyqn9vu8SKSNbpiCSlXLxmmserF/uVlfpWtD4MraKZIECGEFJxpm6gn7/ZOhycj 527i6mhyGFRa0axp41m8ZaUHHStdsklV6a8wM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=k2XwcrxyGMEWv3xbAlS7WxjQ0auPFLLfUmhWByd+Sijeiv4gCCpFB9TJ4DuBHCGX+0 Hcxp7qAec1kIhqqKCaLBaQZBJss+WPEHz9i+QYSs5+y+GAYM25eJKaXctbK0qs3KB/Bn CnWPO674yEoi9eu+A4sc4npbh8U2GtTekVlTQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.105.18 with SMTP id h18mr3008056ybm.45.1248988253908; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:10:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:10:53 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907301410l17888c56ud91000e194b03866@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:10:55 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Vande More > wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, PJ wrote: > > > >> I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 > >> Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it on > >> an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. > >> This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplayer9 > >> with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 does > >> not either, > >> hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to > >> off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configuration > >> file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is > >> going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... > >> oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I can > >> install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this > crap... > >> and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have gone > >> through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. > >> If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? > >> I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. > >> > >> There's nothing wrong i386, at least in the regard you're suggesting. > Try > > searching deeper within yourself for the issue. > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > > I don't think that answer was helpful. > > PJ is not alone in frustration regarding 7.2. For many users, it's > hard to tell whether the balance of difficulties lies in bugs or new > manual configuration requirements of 7.2. > > I think much of the frustration lies in our perception of "STABLE". > When we upgraded from 7.1 (or 7.0), we expected a fairly smooth ride. > I had frustrations related to X (hal), mounting drives (hal), printing > (cups vs applications), and printing (gimp vs hpijs). Yes, I read the > (uncentralized) documentation. I even posted the urls of a few pages > on this list for others to find. Again, the effort feels inconsistent > with "STABLE" -- my perception only, I'm sure 7.2 meets a technical > definition. > > Those of us who upgraded further, to 7.2p1 and beyond, faced > additional challenges related to the change in the default version of > Python. Keep in mind, for many of us, this is all in addition to > massive changes in KDE. > > Simply put, I had a much easier time when I installed 5.0. Your > mileage may have varied. > > FreeBSD is still my choice for web and database serving. As for the > desktop and printing, I will probably use Mac OS X until a few months > after FreeBSD 8.0 is released. And that's okay. There is no law that > states an operating system has to meet every computing need. > > Andrew > The answer was very help, depending on willing you are to take it. Ports in most cases has very little to do with what FBSD version you are running. Blaming it on a version when it had nothing to do with the problem is ignorant and harmful. Some like myself think the arrogance of pointing fingers on FreeBSD when it's clearly not at fault is a very poor approach in many regards. You'd need to man up and read the new X documentation on whatever X platform you use anyway, it's not limited to FreeBSD. Updating libraries is a chore, no dispute there, but if it's such an issue that you can't research it, stick to packages. Neither of you have actually stated a flaw specific to 7.2 Release. Python upgrade needed to happen on any version you wanted to take to 2.6. There was also info to leave it unchanged if you desired. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 21:14:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9591065695 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1208FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNM00J4C5OG3DL0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A720D3F.3090109@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:14:39 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Paul Schmehl References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <4A71F86A.6010603@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:14:41 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, July 30, 2009 14:45:46 -0500 PJ > wrote: >> >> Mike, >> I am not particularly interested in becoming a guru on FreeBSD. I just >> want to be able to use it productively... by that I do not mean make >> money, but get something achieved in the way of programming stuff for my >> own website etc. Having to "go back to school" to understand all the >> stuff about FBSD is a bit overkill. >> The real problem is that the instructions for upgrading and updating >> trip all over themselves and confuse the shit out of most of us who are >> not FBSD experts. Funny, that there are so many posts and wueries on >> google to fix things on FreeBSD. I found one that was very clear and the >> upgrade worked... >> yet there is something wrong with the upgrade since I cannot get X to >> recognize a puny little mouse. > > You need to run both dbus and hal if you want Xorg to detect your > mouse and keyboard. That requires you to add two lines to > /etc/rc.conf; hald_enable=YES and dbus_enable=YES. > >> And consequently I have no idea if >> Firefox is working or if flashplayer is working or acroread9 or anything >> for that matter. > > If you're doing website development and you need to have flash working > you need to find another OS. Flash on FreeBSD is unreliable at best. > Move to Ubuntu or CentOS or Gentoo or some other Linux flavor that can > run Flash natively. > >> And there are no explanations that are readily evident >> on what to use, when, how and where to use the different programs line >> the linux emulation... > > No matter what you use, there is going to be a learning curve. I've > just started using Vista Enterprise, and it drives me nuts. Things > aren't where I'm used to them being, and I can't find what I used to > know was there. And I was editing the registry in Windows 3.1 when > many people didn't even know there was a registry. > > All OSes take time to learn, some more than others. FreeBSD is on the > steeper side of the learning curve table, so maybe you shouldn't > invest the time. Life is too short to be constantly frustrated. >> >> I do appreciate the help you are offering as well as all the other guys >> who take time out to help us. >> It sounds, from what you are telling me, like it may be possible to do >> something with my problem computer... will try. > > If you are willing to invest the time, FreeBSD can be a great OS to > use. But nobody but you can run your box, and no amount of help can > overcome an unwillingness to take the time to learn. That's not an > indictment of you. Your priorities are not others' priorities. But > don't keep banging your head against the FreeBSD wall if you just want > to get an OS up and running and using Flash. > > Hell, buy a Mac. Then you'll have the best of both worlds. No way. But isn't it strange that it used to be pretty simple to upgrade and update. But recently, I notice that communication between the developers and users (or is it the manual page writers) are getting far away from the realities of user/operational needs. Oh, what's the sense of beating a dead horse, mechanics will never be writers... let's not kid ourselves. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 21:31:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EBA106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FFF8FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1136824ywh.14 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0UKd/iqiV0JzB6QhG+VUqQGhuzkDvqtpthK7COt9xwQ=; b=ekwHmYUN7Mw7T0/nZVqi43Dcdhz7MODcubCdQ1YmzxjRKxRRUaiyAYXG8SXjAgvTXj 4cZRs61OorbwsylqwR3z1+MF2SJ8YJ7eW5maVTbyZpAnDbBQTrtu8zQ5quisvQVLKI8Z KT6CmzfjGWrT1XhHCq44dt/TBEsjwiAXBqNiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=morLvSl+3t88j/2WQTYzVIOQfjoRkAn1x0LpeqKp7A0u6raLyKsjIk2hAoJm3H1fNT ke11MJWTqaVUKv42lhxcgTtD71zpT7Ts2f87zKFo5BEH41S00NEevZP6uwJiMuqXIyy7 lvk/QPZWU5CyKEgeI32f6ZAfND+97nJsxIGOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.173.20 with SMTP id v20mr1176662ane.44.1248989459324; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:30:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A71F2E8.5000105@videotron.ca> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <4A71F2E8.5000105@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:30:59 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:31:00 -0000 On 7/30/09, PJ wrote: > Tim Judd wrote: >> On 7/30/09, PJ wrote: >> >>> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >>> sector screwed up? >>> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >>> I get errors that the file system is full and I have no idea of how to >>> deal with the boot up - the help message is no help! >>> Boot says it cannot find a kernel... surely there must be some kind of >>> recovery process even if nothing has been backed up. Surely FreeBSD must >>> be have something that functions like certain software does on MS ? >>> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >>> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >>> TIA. >>> PJ >>> >> >> >> That's when the livefs comes to the rescue -- if you cannot boot at all >> >> Otherwise single-user boot works most of the time >> > how does livefs come into the picture here? What is it? How do you use it? > > Single-user? if the kernel is not accessible, how do I boot? It's another ISO image you burn to CD and boot. It's a live filesystem off CD. Since it doesn't depend on your hard drive's filesystem - it can boot to BSD, and give you a emergency repair environment to do your work (including mounting your HDD partitions) and then restart with the hard drive. Windows still hasn't got that down, yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 22:06:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E326106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206208FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6UM6J8W075765; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:06:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B006BBA9B; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:06:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:06:18 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:06:21 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > =20 > >> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot > >> sector screwed up? I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things that could have gone wrong. See below. > >> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? =20 > > > > Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. > > =20 > how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get something like this: /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your data is lost as well. Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1024000 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 64008=20 b: 16777216 1024016 swap =20 c: 976768002 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don'= t edit d: 4194304 17801232 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528=20 e: 104857600 21995536 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528=20 f: 41943040 126853136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528=20 g: 807971826 168796176 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. Try these steps and report back what you find. > >> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally > >> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. > > > > Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. > > =20 > Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are > there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't > all be that stupid.) It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be posting very much. :-)=20 As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpyGVoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVrOACgn1qylbwO7p5yxKBLmI6/OJ8b 9D4AniZs5JZuSbW4rJF7W6MXPJ5bratr =Vh/i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 22:37:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A91106566C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5598FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1086718ewy.43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:37:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GrjysaLRmWe7wgq3csT/N+L2gI+gHTkTa6UAGinqpP0=; b=PO7jDGvFHT6MbSO8ArpSLwL+f8USqiGr8kPwU+EZJVlNiI6h76IbvoXLcnATUUdXJ0 UPc/dixIwEuz3UKH7vqfQZjAoU1GhZlKD71cO408SCpfJ+/tjclKHDjXZhgpnm5D0axc SSoSd6q/PTT5NNGoqimooLIe+TaysZV1BvMBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NgouKQy5c7GGCKqMwMnA2b3p9MrEvXVve7xzeCSJLS7BnDxLXYtxgX79rD6fetQLnc lwjFthRPgyzqkl8cBH77FU5MBpvgc2uzKMw9pa//phYUbANPpzUJ0ab1Li1FLQCCyo/f Fnq5MWMvINIPNfGLnVf0BaaBg/2pjMgJbqb5A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.65.16 with SMTP id n16mr2099599eba.87.1248993419937; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:36:59 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: net/linux-nx-client: problems connecting to server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:37:01 -0000 I *can* connect to the server on my Ubuntu machine, but not on my FreeBSD machine. When trying to connect to my nx server (on a RHEL5 machine), I am able to authenticate successfully but at the "negotiating link parameters step", an error dialog box opens asking if I want to terminate the connection because it cannot connect to the server proxy. The "details" shows this text (X's used to hide IP): [BEGIN DETAILS] NXPROXY - Version 2.1.0 Copyright (C) 2001, 2006 NoMachine. See http://www.nomachine.com/ for more information. Info: Proxy running in client mode with pid '2913'. Session: Starting session at 'Thu Jul 30 18:19:13 2009'. Info: Connecting to remote host 'XXX.X.XX.XX:5012'. Info: Aborting the procedure due to signal '15'. Session: Session terminated at 'Thu Jul 30 18:20:08 2009'. [END DETAILS] Trying to resolve this, I then enabled the "enable SSL encryption of all traffic", but the connection times out, with the following details: [BEGIN DETAILS] NXPROXY - Version 2.1.0 Copyright (C) 2001, 2006 NoMachine. See http://www.nomachine.com/ for more information. Info: Proxy running in client mode with pid '2985'. Session: Starting session at 'Thu Jul 30 18:25:19 2009'. Error: Failed to set TCP_NODELAY flag on FD#13 to 1. Error is 22 'Invalid argument'. Warning: Connected to remote NXPROXY version 3.3.0 with local version 2.1.0. Warning: Consider checking http://www.nomachine.com/ for updates. Info: Synchronizing local and remote caches. Info: Handshaking with remote proxy completed. Warning: Failed to set IPTOS_LOWDELAY flag on FD#13. Error is 92 'Protocol not available'. Error: Failed to set TCP_NODELAY flag on FD#13 to 1. Error is 22 'Invalid argument'. Info: Using LAN link parameters 1536/24/1/0. Info: Using image streaming parameters 50/128/1024KB/6144/768. Info: Using image cache parameters 1/1/131072KB. Info: Using pack method '16m-jpeg-9' with session 'unix-gnome'. Info: Using product 'LFE/None/LFEN/None'. Info: Not using NX delta compression. Info: Not using ZLIB data compression. Info: Not using ZLIB stream compression. Info: Not using persistent cache. Info: Listening for font server connections on port '11014'. Session: Session started at 'Thu Jul 30 18:25:19 2009'. Error: Failed to set TCP_NODELAY flag on FD#18 to 1. Error is 22 'Invalid argument'. Info: Established X server connection. Session: Terminating session at 'Thu Jul 30 18:25:19 2009'. Info: End of NX transport requested by signal '15'. [END DETAILS] I'd appreciate any help/suggestions. TIA, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 23:19:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179A1106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920CF8FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so402529eyd.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:19:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KDkpXAVvTHQyVjQgZGIkwRGETIWL375VodUuUaQcdYs=; b=LGwXBuerRZ5dzm4Euc4MXjmctBH1WyXpXB/Ava9tL4T1yMwJxbv5oGKHNoMDZ5SSCR bnZeD1DLnathEwgK2Sz5F9efYkubzrxxIk0bK9TT4qQW8Ti718UiN6KaCYF86XS3jCBA b90Wqu6v90i/cdXbysSoL7AhHncY7CFkh+OxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=awODdlbhQ9bOhPaMvcOiFAB7bImWOTFV2u3sXenlMqVrPWONBpnKLlaiY1a6QbS76n d1gYO6U9uEvur9dh6aVLPacOv72eykCJOloL/VjnapmOR1LykKPccPooRNazLDCi4d0W Dr/EmsDa2hRJcu+sCaJdwcyOLU/JngHqFTU64= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr233439ebb.1.1248994207078; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:50:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Freminlins To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, PJ Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:19:40 -0000 2009/7/30 Mel Flynn > > > You should really be using PCBSD if you want a packaged desktop system, f= or > which the developers claim responsibility and for which much (if not all) > of > the configuration has been done for you. I disagree with that. It even says on the FreeBSD web site "FreeBSD=AE is a= n advanced operating system for modern server, desktop...". I have used FreeBSD on the desktop for about 6 years (but not yet running 7.2). It has mostly been a pleasure. I didn't like it when X was changed to individual packages, as it now takes considerably longer to install. And th= e output from pkg_info takes correspondingly longer to search through. It als= o installs two scripting languages (Perl and Python). I haven't had a problem configuring X for years. If something has changed which then causes problems to end users, then that is not good. And it's no good telling people "use PCBSD" or something else. That's not what we want. We want to use FreeBSD on the desktop. Don't try and put people off using FreeBSD. 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You=20get=20this=20e-mail=20as=20a=20recipient=20International=20B2B=20porta= ls.=20If=20you=20don't=20want=20to=20receive=20any=20further=20information=92= s=20please=20send=20this=20e-mail=20with=20message=20UNSUBSCRIBE=20to=20e-mai= l=20address:=20unsubscribe@eu-b2b.eu =20 =20 =A9=202009=20EU-B2B=20Copyright EU-B2B.EU ------=_NextPart_444_7651_08679844.48234227-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 00:34:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C30E106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3608FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987617E818; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:34:35 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:34:34 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907301634.34562.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Adam Vande More , Andrew Gould , Freminlins , PJ Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:34:37 -0000 On Thursday 30 July 2009 14:50:07 Freminlins wrote: > 2009/7/30 Mel Flynn > ailing.thruhere.net> > > > You should really be using PCBSD if you want a packaged desktop system, > > for which the developers claim responsibility and for which much (if not > > all) of > > the configuration has been done for you. > > I disagree with that. It even says on the FreeBSD web site "FreeBSD=AE is= an > advanced operating system for modern server, desktop...". The key is that the Xorg software is *not* part of FreeBSD. It may work, it= =20 may not. A FreeBSD release is shipped with the intention that all software = in=20 base and kernel are "working by default" and if it's not, the FreeBSD=20 developers claim responsibility for fixing it. The line is gray where it co= mes=20 to X11, yet it's still a line. > I have used FreeBSD on the desktop for about 6 years (but not yet running > 7.2). It has mostly been a pleasure. I didn't like it when X was changed = to > individual packages, as it now takes considerably longer to install. And > the output from pkg_info takes correspondingly longer to search through. = It > also installs two scripting languages (Perl and Python). I haven't had a > problem configuring X for years. I never claimed that FreeBSD can't be used on a desktop, I've been doing th= at=20 since 4.7-RELEASE. Whether you and me can do it, is not up for dispute. Wha= t=20 is, is that bugs are attributed to 7.2-RELEASE, which are all bugs in 3rd=20 party software and should be reported to ports@, with proper information if= =20 people care about those problems getting fixed. Even then it may be out of = the=20 hands of those volunteers, if it relies on propriety software of which the= =20 developers have expressed no interest to support FreeBSD (like flash). > If something has changed which then causes problems to end users, then th= at > is not good. And it's no good telling people "use PCBSD" or something els= e. > That's not what we want. We want to use FreeBSD on the desktop. And we are. It's not for everybody and PCBSD is a FreeBSD desktop system=20 specifically created for people that don't want to do all the configuring a= nd=20 troubleshooting that may come with installing a desktop system. PCBSD is=20 =46reeBSD (the latest major version -STABLE), with extra effort to make thi= ngs=20 easier and people claiming responsibility for a working graphical desktop. > Don't try and put people off using FreeBSD. It would be much better to he= lp > them resolves the problems they are having. As said above, PCBSD is FreeBSD. And for many, it is the best help one can= =20 give. One must first learn to walk, if one wants to run. Also, if you _really_ want things to change for *BSD, then you should acqui= re=20 a group of people that are willing and able to fork Xorg, get rid of it's h= al=20 and python dependency, repackage sensibly and do some proper release=20 engineering. Especially the latter is what is causing the problems of late.= =20 Either that, or convince the Xorg people to do that. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 02:23:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19544106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s26.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s26.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D723C8FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS2 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s26.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:21:38 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Question" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com> <4A71EC9F.2090001@cia.com> In-Reply-To: <4A71EC9F.2090001@cia.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:14:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2009 02:21:38.0523 (UTC) FILETIME=[A25432B0:01CA1185] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:23:06 -0000 Both servers have same ldd outputs and Sendmail.conf contains only "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" -------- banyan# ldd -a /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail: libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x2807d000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) /lib/libutil.so.7: libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) banyan# banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26 7 29 14:56 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf banyan# cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd -------- Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication You may check the location of sasl2 lib which sendmail is compiled with - do ldd on sendmail executable. And verify if Sendmail.conf in the sasl2 lib folder doesn't have any restrictions on available mechs. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The liblogin.so is in directory > > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so -> liblogin.so.2 > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17172 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > > There is only confAUTH_MECHANISMS in .mc file, not confAUTH_OPTIONS > > dnl set SASL options > dnl -------------------------------- > TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:58 PM > To: FreeBSD Question > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to > recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. > Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do > make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available > only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working > configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad > idea to do authentication clear text). > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! >> >> New server >> ========= >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> >> Functional server >> ============== >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are >> class and option listed >> >> C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN >> in the 250-AUTH list. >> BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does >> matter or not.. >> >> Reed >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the >> output. >> Check >> 250-AUTH >> According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN >> mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >>> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >>> different? >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the >>> functional >>> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Ihor Prystay >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >>> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >>> >>> Ihor >>> >>> >>> >>> Reed Lai wrote: >>>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>>> Sendmail >>>> >>>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>>> Version 8.14.2 >>>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>>> SASLv2 >>>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>>> >>>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>>> ======================================================== >>>> >>>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>>> >>>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>>> Connected to localhost. >>>> Escape character is '^]'. >>>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 >>>> 21:19:40 >>>> +0800 (CST) >>>> ehlo localhost >>>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>>> 250-PIPELINING >>>> 250-8BITMIME >>>> 250-SIZE >>>> 250-DSN >>>> 250-ETRN >>>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>>> 250-DELIVERBY >>>> 250 HELP >>>> >>>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>>> >>>> Reed >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Reed Lai >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>>> >>>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>>> >>>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>>> >>>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>>> the >>>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>>> >>>> The maillog of functional server >>>> ====================== >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: >>>> from=, >>>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>>> daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>>> >>>> The other one >>>> ========= >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> ruleset=check_rcpt, >>>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> from=, >>>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>>> >>>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>>> >>>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Reed _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 02:24:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE441065678 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com (mail-fx0-f210.google.com [209.85.220.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245EA8FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so83157fxm.43 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KHXcP9/RZDGxZHWMu0ZO512DJtrMeo38Uk9si3g3SlE=; b=A/1OLJZFuBcPtNoFH5FAJQ9LGeISTDnEMi9KdJ4htMBisZ0UeaeeTakAVIRyHugsij uRXm4azPpqpWdHvT65gNGgDzU5JykJwhMSHFcJjI4JjZ4yQkFVIWnkAGteGwcCUT7ls4 vurABBZARe33tWymuFoqtX14v6U6YIjU23uWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lr+1tG/JyxuUHw/TggDWz+lF6Z0SfKAhoWnrOlnCuc8vUTl3XfaI1ujjn2GXGn7oEp vIlw+t+Jaem3Sg4hWQDNfzENrtRwatqetqlWzH+VBdaAuEnIIQ5vOnzsdqwUIBTvkDo1 RaKXh2vYpGE8mrwddcaCVjtMgoi13b3szoOjA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.4 with SMTP id e4mr1109403fas.100.1249007094295; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:24:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:24:56 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Thursday 30 July 2009 12:50:11 Andrew Gould wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Vande More > wrote: >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, PJ wrote: >> >> I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 >> >> Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it o= n >> >> an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. >> >> This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. Flashplay= er9 >> >> with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, acroread9 do= es >> >> not either, >> >> hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to >> >> off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the configurati= on >> >> file is the default built-in... I don't understand what the hell is >> >> going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work either... >> >> oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can boot and I = can >> >> install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to play with this >> >> crap... and I certainly am not going to reinstall after all I have go= ne >> >> through... If I do reinstall, it will be another OS. >> >> If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? >> >> I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. >> >> >> >> There's nothing wrong i386, at least in the regard you're suggesting. >> >> =A0Try >> > >> > searching deeper within yourself for the issue. >> > >> > -- >> > Adam Vande More >> >> I don't think that answer was helpful. > > It's the right answer though. > >> PJ is not alone in frustration regarding 7.2. =A0For many users, it's >> hard to tell whether the balance of difficulties lies in bugs or new >> manual configuration requirements of 7.2. >> >> I think much of the frustration lies in our perception of "STABLE". >> When we upgraded from 7.1 (or 7.0), we expected a fairly smooth ride. >> I had frustrations related to X (hal), mounting drives (hal), printing >> (cups vs applications), and printing (gimp vs hpijs). =A0Yes, I read the >> (uncentralized) documentation. > > I think release CD's should not contain packages anymore, cause everythin= g you > describe here, has absolutely nothing to do with FreeBSD 7.2, but with 3r= d > party software that happened to be packaged at release time. > You should really be using PCBSD if you want a packaged desktop system, f= or > which the developers claim responsibility and for which much (if not all)= of > the configuration has been done for you. > When using FreeBSD you are expected to understand the handbook, configure > things on your own and be able to troubleshoot problems and/or provide th= e > right information in case you need help. If you can't do this, then FreeB= SD is > not the right tool for you. No harm in that, nobody forces you to use Fre= eBSD > nor will convict you for using an OS that suits you better. > -- > Mel > Your answer is presumptuous. You've already assumed that my problems lie in my inability or lack of willingness to read the documentation and perform configuration. I have been running X on FreeBSD successfully since version 4.0 and have been reading documentation and configuring my system since 2000. I'm not just talking about X, I'm talking about postfix, postgresql, samba, apache with webdav over ssl, etc. I am having far more trouble with a STABLE release than I had with 5.0. After searching many decentralized sources of the sacred documentation (when will the brow beating end?) and reconfiguring my system, I am still having problems. I have been to PC-BSD and back again. I prefer some of my own configurations. If I, after these 8 to 9 years, am having a surprising level of difficulty, I would prefer not to be handily dismissed as a spoon-fed noob. It is easy, and technically correct, to separate the core FreeBSD system from the ports. This I grant you. Beyond the initial clarification, however, it is not the least bit useful. To the world of FreeBSD users, even many of the technically advanced users, FreeBSD would lose much of its usefulness without the ports. So, beyond saying that it's not your problem, what have you accomplished? I'll get off my soap box now. If I sound overly frustrated or sound like I'm ranting, it's because I am accustomed to that sense of control that FreeBSD provides.....only, I've lost that feeling on the desktop side. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 02:28:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407861065680 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s20.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s20.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094728FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS7 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s20.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:26:57 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Question" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com><4A71EC9F.2090001@cia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:26:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2009 02:26:57.0510 (UTC) FILETIME=[6075C060:01CA1186] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:28:26 -0000 And there is LOGIN option selected (as ports default options) when installing the cyrus-sasl2. Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:14 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication Both servers have same ldd outputs and Sendmail.conf contains only "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" -------- banyan# ldd -a /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail: libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x2807d000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) /lib/libutil.so.7: libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) banyan# banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26 7 29 14:56 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf banyan# cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd -------- Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication You may check the location of sasl2 lib which sendmail is compiled with - do ldd on sendmail executable. And verify if Sendmail.conf in the sasl2 lib folder doesn't have any restrictions on available mechs. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The liblogin.so is in directory > > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so -> liblogin.so.2 > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17172 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > > There is only confAUTH_MECHANISMS in .mc file, not confAUTH_OPTIONS > > dnl set SASL options > dnl -------------------------------- > TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:58 PM > To: FreeBSD Question > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to > recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. > Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do > make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available > only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working > configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad > idea to do authentication clear text). > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! >> >> New server >> ========= >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> >> Functional server >> ============== >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are >> class and option listed >> >> C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN >> in the 250-AUTH list. >> BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does >> matter or not.. >> >> Reed >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the >> output. >> Check >> 250-AUTH >> According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN >> mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >>> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >>> different? >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the >>> functional >>> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Ihor Prystay >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >>> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >>> >>> Ihor >>> >>> >>> >>> Reed Lai wrote: >>>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>>> Sendmail >>>> >>>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>>> Version 8.14.2 >>>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>>> SASLv2 >>>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>>> >>>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>>> ======================================================== >>>> >>>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>>> >>>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>>> Connected to localhost. >>>> Escape character is '^]'. >>>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 >>>> 21:19:40 >>>> +0800 (CST) >>>> ehlo localhost >>>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>>> 250-PIPELINING >>>> 250-8BITMIME >>>> 250-SIZE >>>> 250-DSN >>>> 250-ETRN >>>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>>> 250-DELIVERBY >>>> 250 HELP >>>> >>>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>>> >>>> Reed >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Reed Lai >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>>> >>>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>>> >>>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>>> >>>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>>> the >>>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>>> >>>> The maillog of functional server >>>> ====================== >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: >>>> from=, >>>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>>> daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>>> >>>> The other one >>>> ========= >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> ruleset=check_rcpt, >>>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> from=, >>>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>>> >>>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>>> >>>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Reed _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 04:34:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300F1065674 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123E98FC15 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from [172.28.1.202] (98.141.235.114) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:24:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4A7271DE.7070702@p6m7g8.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:23:58 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6 Web Applications User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: gmirror / crash dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:34:05 -0000 Hi, Say I've got the following: /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 989M 390M 520M 43% / /dev/mirror/gm0s1g 15G 1.7G 12G 13% /usr /dev/mirror/gm0s1h 544G 1.8M 501G 0% /usr/home /dev/mirror/gm0s1d 1.9G 500M 1.3G 27% /usr/src /dev/mirror/gm0s1e 1.9G 1.1G 733M 60% /usr/obj /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G 2.0K 89G 0% /var Well I'm trying to get my kernel panics to cause dumps 1) /etc/rc.conf dumpdev=AUTO crashinfo_enable="YES" 2) sudo chmod 700 /var/crash 3) 8GB RAM, 16GB of swap, /var/crash is 16GB < 97GB 4) I have the following in my 7-stable kernel makeoptions DEBUG=-g options AUDIT options KTRACE options KDB options KDB_TRACE options DDB options GDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options WITNESS options DEBUG_LOCKS options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS options LOCK_PROFILING options DIAGNOSTIC The long and the short of it is I don't get any dumps. I read somewhere that you can't dump onto a gmirror device. So I've moved /var off of /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G 2.0K 89G 0% /var and I can now do what I want with this. How do I go about re-jiggering this (2-disk gmirror) so I can use 1 slice from one of them as my dumpon(8) device? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 04:51:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5AD1065672 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s29.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s29.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9188FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS17 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s29.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:51:53 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Question" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com><4A71EC9F.2090001@cia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:51:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2009 04:51:53.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FDEE060:01CA119A] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:51:59 -0000 The test of saslauthd seems OK too: -------- banyan# testsaslauthd -s smtp -u aNNNNNN -p xxxxxxxx 0: OK "Success." -------- The auth login in smtp connection is still not available: -------- ehlo local 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you ... 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP auth login 504 5.3.3 AUTH mechanism login not available -------- Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:26 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication And there is LOGIN option selected (as ports default options) when installing the cyrus-sasl2. Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:14 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication Both servers have same ldd outputs and Sendmail.conf contains only "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" -------- banyan# ldd -a /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail: libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x2807d000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) /lib/libutil.so.7: libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) banyan# banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26 7 29 14:56 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf banyan# cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd -------- Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication You may check the location of sasl2 lib which sendmail is compiled with - do ldd on sendmail executable. And verify if Sendmail.conf in the sasl2 lib folder doesn't have any restrictions on available mechs. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The liblogin.so is in directory > > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so -> liblogin.so.2 > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17172 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > > There is only confAUTH_MECHANISMS in .mc file, not confAUTH_OPTIONS > > dnl set SASL options > dnl -------------------------------- > TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:58 PM > To: FreeBSD Question > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to > recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. > Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do > make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available > only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working > configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad > idea to do authentication clear text). > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! >> >> New server >> ========= >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> >> Functional server >> ============== >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are >> class and option listed >> >> C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN >> in the 250-AUTH list. >> BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does >> matter or not.. >> >> Reed >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the >> output. >> Check >> 250-AUTH >> According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN >> mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >>> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >>> different? >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the >>> functional >>> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Ihor Prystay >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >>> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >>> >>> Ihor >>> >>> >>> >>> Reed Lai wrote: >>>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>>> Sendmail >>>> >>>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>>> Version 8.14.2 >>>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>>> SASLv2 >>>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>>> >>>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>>> ======================================================== >>>> >>>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>>> >>>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>>> Connected to localhost. >>>> Escape character is '^]'. >>>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 >>>> 21:19:40 >>>> +0800 (CST) >>>> ehlo localhost >>>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>>> 250-PIPELINING >>>> 250-8BITMIME >>>> 250-SIZE >>>> 250-DSN >>>> 250-ETRN >>>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>>> 250-DELIVERBY >>>> 250 HELP >>>> >>>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>>> >>>> Reed >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Reed Lai >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>>> >>>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>>> >>>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>>> >>>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>>> the >>>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>>> >>>> The maillog of functional server >>>> ====================== >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: >>>> from=, >>>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>>> daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>>> >>>> The other one >>>> ========= >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> ruleset=check_rcpt, >>>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> from=, >>>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>>> >>>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>>> >>>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Reed _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 05:05:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4756106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s9.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s9.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7A68FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reedlai@hotmail.com) Received: from SNT121-DS16 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s9.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:05:10 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [59.125.83.147] X-Originating-Email: [reedlai@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Reed Lai" To: "FreeBSD Question" References: <4A710A2F.1030407@cia.com> <4A713F34.5050404@cia.com> <4A7160C8.9050705@cia.com><4A71EC9F.2090001@cia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:04:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2009 05:05:10.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A9C1460:01CA119C] Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:05:11 -0000 I am very sorry. I forgot to "make install" to install the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf, so it has only banyan..mc/cf files updated. I always forget the final target is sendmail.cf XD The new server is available for AUTH LOGIN now. The trouble is resolved. Ihor, thank you very mcuh for all helps! Reed Lai From: Reed Lai Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:51 PM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication The test of saslauthd seems OK too: -------- banyan# testsaslauthd -s smtp -u aNNNNNN -p xxxxxxxx 0: OK "Success." -------- The auth login in smtp connection is still not available: -------- ehlo local 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you ... 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP auth login 504 5.3.3 AUTH mechanism login not available -------- Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:26 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication And there is LOGIN option selected (as ports default options) when installing the cyrus-sasl2. Reed From: Reed Lai Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:14 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication Both servers have same ldd outputs and Sendmail.conf contains only "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" -------- banyan# ldd -a /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail: libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x2807d000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) /lib/libutil.so.7: libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2808a000) banyan# banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26 7 29 14:56 /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf banyan# cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd -------- Reed From: Ihor Prystay Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:55 AM To: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication You may check the location of sasl2 lib which sendmail is compiled with - do ldd on sendmail executable. And verify if Sendmail.conf in the sasl2 lib folder doesn't have any restrictions on available mechs. Ihor Reed Lai wrote: > The liblogin.so is in directory > > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so -> liblogin.so.2 > banyan# ll /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17172 7 29 14:54 > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so.2 > > There is only confAUTH_MECHANISMS in .mc file, not confAUTH_OPTIONS > > dnl set SASL options > dnl -------------------------------- > TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN')dnl > > Reed > > From: Ihor Prystay > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:58 PM > To: FreeBSD Question > Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication > > > Check if /usr/local/lib/sasl2/liblogin.so exists - if not you have to > recompile sasl with LOGIN mech support. > Check in your .mc file if you define confAUTH_OPTIONS macro. If you do > make sure 'p' parameter is not on the list or LOGIN would be available > only after TLS encryption which is not a case for you as your working > configuration offers LOGIN during telnet session (it's actually a bad > idea to do authentication clear text). > > Ihor > > > Reed Lai wrote: >> Yes, the new server leaks LOGIN in the 250-AUTH list! >> >> New server >> ========= >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >> >> Functional server >> ============== >> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> I have checked the generated .cf file in the new server and there are >> class and option listed >> >> C{TrustAuthMech}GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> O AuthMechanisms=GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN >> >> The new server has same configuration to old server, but has not LOGIN >> in the 250-AUTH list. >> BTW, the new server has hostname changed once... I don't know if it does >> matter or not.. >> >> Reed >> >> From: Ihor Prystay >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:35 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >> >> >> Tray telnet to port 25 of your working SMTP server and compare the >> output. >> Check >> 250-AUTH >> According to the provided log from the working server it should be LOGIN >> mech available in the list, which is not present on the new server. >> >> Ihor >> >> >> Reed Lai wrote: >>> The maillog does not log the sm-mta: AUTH=server action. The functional >>> server has the AUTH=server action logged. How do I debug from this >>> different? >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> From: Reed Lai >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:51 AM >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> The mail client is Windows Live Mail and it work well with the >>> functional >>> server. Its SMTP authenication should be ok. >>> >>> Reed >>> >>> >>> From: Ihor Prystay >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:49 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: SMTP Authentication >>> >>> >>> your working server does support LOGIN mech while other one dosn't. >>> I doubt if your mail client has a support for GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>> auth, usually it's PLAIN or/and LOGIN. >>> >>> Ihor >>> >>> >>> >>> Reed Lai wrote: >>>> Instruction of the "SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13" to test the >>>> Sendmail >>>> >>>> banyan# sendmail -d0.1 -bv root >>>> Version 8.14.2 >>>> Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 >>>> NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING >>>> SASLv2 >>>> SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG >>>> >>>> ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ >>>> (short domain name) $w = banyan >>>> (canonical domain name) $j = banyan...com >>>> (subdomain name) $m = ..com >>>> (node name) $k = banyan...com >>>> ======================================================== >>>> >>>> root... deliverable: mailer local, user root >>>> >>>> banyan# telnet localhost 25 >>>> Trying 127.0.0.1... >>>> Connected to localhost. >>>> Escape character is '^]'. >>>> 220 banyan...com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 >>>> 21:19:40 >>>> +0800 (CST) >>>> ehlo localhost >>>> 250-banyan...com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you >>>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>>> 250-PIPELINING >>>> 250-8BITMIME >>>> 250-SIZE >>>> 250-DSN >>>> 250-ETRN >>>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 >>>> 250-DELIVERBY >>>> 250 HELP >>>> >>>> The Sendmail test seems OK >>>> But the SMTP authentication does not work from my mail client. >>>> >>>> Reed >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Reed Lai >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:37 PM >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: SMTP Authentication >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have two freebsd mail servers both configured SMTP authentication: >>>> >>>> FreeBSD Handbook 28.10 SMTP Authenticatin >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html >>>> >>>> SMTP AUTO in sendmail 8.10-8.13 >>>> http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html >>>> >>>> One is functional, and the other one doesn't seem to work. Compare the >>>> maillogs of the two servers, there is an AUTH=server message appear in >>>> the >>>> functional server, but the other one has not. >>>> >>>> The maillog of functional server >>>> ====================== >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: AUTH=server, relay=59-....net >>>> [59...147], authid=a660407, mech=LOGIN, bits=0 >>>> Jul 29 16:15:10 maple sm-mta[57825]: n6T8F9ej057825: >>>> from=, >>>> size=1430, class=0, nrcpts=1, >>>> msgid=<40F9CC65E8874D128639A39C1EEBD410@ReedXP>, proto=ESMTP, >>>> daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...net [59...147] >>>> >>>> The other one >>>> ========= >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> ruleset=check_rcpt, >>>> arg1=, relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147], >>>> reject=550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied >>>> Jul 29 17:12:41 banyan sm-mta[2539]: n6T9Cf9q002539: >>>> from=, >>>> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, >>>> relay=59-...-147.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59...147] >>>> >>>> It seems the other one's smtp authentication is not trigged. >>>> >>>> Please help or tip me for something I forget. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> Reed _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 05:19:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E5D106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846908FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992217E818; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:19:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:19:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907302119.14761.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Andrew Gould Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:19:17 -0000 On Thursday 30 July 2009 18:24:54 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Mel > > Flynn wrote: > > On Thursday 30 July 2009 12:50:11 Andrew Gould wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Vande More > > > > wrote: > >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, PJ wrote: > >> >> I have (supposedly, as I am told by my bootup) upgraded to 7.2 > >> >> Wonderful. But how do i make this thing work. I've managed to do it > >> >> on an amd64 on an ACER Travelmate 4400 running at 1600mhz. > >> >> This box runs on 3ghz; Xorg comes up and the mouse is dead. > >> >> Flashplayer9 with linux-emulator f8 and all the tweaks does not work, > >> >> acroread9 does not either, > >> >> hal is useless. I've tried turning off the option AllowEmptyInput to > >> >> off; i've tried starting hal - and when I run startx, the > >> >> configuration file is the default built-in... I don't understand what > >> >> the hell is going on... None of the solutions on google seem to work > >> >> either... oh, but there is some sunlight in neverneverland... I can > >> >> boot and I can install all kinds of files - funny, I don't want to > >> >> play with this crap... and I certainly am not going to reinstall > >> >> after all I have gone through... If I do reinstall, it will be > >> >> another OS. > >> >> If it all works on amd64, what's wrong with i386? > >> >> I think it's time to switch to something more reliable. > >> >> > >> >> There's nothing wrong i386, at least in the regard you're suggesting. > >> >> Try > >> > > >> > searching deeper within yourself for the issue. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Adam Vande More > >> > >> I don't think that answer was helpful. > > > > It's the right answer though. > > > >> PJ is not alone in frustration regarding 7.2. For many users, it's > >> hard to tell whether the balance of difficulties lies in bugs or new > >> manual configuration requirements of 7.2. > >> > >> I think much of the frustration lies in our perception of "STABLE". > >> When we upgraded from 7.1 (or 7.0), we expected a fairly smooth ride. > >> I had frustrations related to X (hal), mounting drives (hal), printing > >> (cups vs applications), and printing (gimp vs hpijs). Yes, I read the > >> (uncentralized) documentation. > > > > I think release CD's should not contain packages anymore, cause > > everything you describe here, has absolutely nothing to do with FreeBSD > > 7.2, but with 3rd party software that happened to be packaged at release > > time. > > You should really be using PCBSD if you want a packaged desktop system, > > for which the developers claim responsibility and for which much (if not > > all) of the configuration has been done for you. The paragraph below is a generalized statement, perhaps I should've used 'one' instead of 'you'. > > When using FreeBSD you are expected to understand the handbook, configure > > things on your own and be able to troubleshoot problems and/or provide > > the right information in case you need help. If you can't do this, then > > FreeBSD is not the right tool for you. No harm in that, nobody forces you > > to use FreeBSD nor will convict you for using an OS that suits you > > better. > > -- > > Mel > > Your answer is presumptuous. You've already assumed that my problems > lie in my inability or lack of willingness to read the documentation > and perform configuration. I have been running X on FreeBSD > successfully since version 4.0 and have been reading documentation and > configuring my system since 2000. I'm not just talking about X, I'm > talking about postfix, postgresql, samba, apache with webdav over ssl, > etc. > > I am having far more trouble with a STABLE release than I had with > 5.0. That is very weird, since most of the community regards the 5.x series as the worst in FreeBSD's history. They were a transitional release to dismiss the GIANT locking in favor of fine grained kernel locks as the main design change. I've personally seen significant improvements in both reliability and performance since 5.x, with respect to kernel and base. I'm seeing absolutely no issues with postfix or postgresql (especially since on 64-bit I can now increase kernel memory to satisfy postgresql's SHM requirements), don't have critical samba installations so can't comment on that and webdav over ssl I don't provide at all. Could you point me to some PR's you've filed? You got me curious now. > It is easy, and technically correct, to separate the core FreeBSD > system from the ports. This I grant you. Beyond the initial > clarification, however, it is not the least bit useful. To the world > of FreeBSD users, even many of the technically advanced users, FreeBSD > would lose much of its usefulness without the ports. So, beyond > saying that it's not your problem, what have you accomplished? See $subject. As far as I'm concerned, 7.2 is the best release so far. The OP makes it sound like FreeBSD is the cause of all his problems, while looking at his posts, some can be attributed to himself and the rest to factors beyond FreeBSD's control, probably including hardware. > I'll get off my soap box now. If I sound overly frustrated or sound > like I'm ranting, it's because I am accustomed to that sense of > control that FreeBSD provides.....only, I've lost that feeling on the > desktop side. I've learned to work around "GPL software" on the desktop. If something don't work, don't use it, report it or fix it. I do share the Xorg frustration, primarily because there is no alternative and has degraded into a "linux X11 server, with some considerations for other operating systems, without any form of release engineering or regression testing". While XFree86 was harder to configure, it's stability was far less of an issue. But unless I'm willing and able to roll my own "X4BSD", the best I can do is stay away from hardware with known problems, report issues and provide good debugging information. When I have to use hard- or software that does not work satisfactory, I install Kubuntu (like for my step daughter's laptop) or as a last resort a windows slice (for tax software and some games). -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 06:15:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED27106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071688FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3449715yxe.3 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:15:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HwdQie8v3nwZwXSTu2P80VbNWrOoBdaYpGau1Ns6qEY=; b=CyHDnXMZXX59oHdXTcfbbUfJz+ncGJbujZ2724uliAbMo9VsCA8QcICiVrGM2R7mf1 itSavbIKUI9siGdQZYz5kvAoPm9y5RCNr20CSLXvLG99dpHhi0Z6+VvqlwDL7Kj+IyaF pDCiPeWCWhk43QZbEbnwtsFE3wEBuV+/Uh3O4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ik+tK2rK/k6kpqCqqSNI96CON9LaRk/1Vl2mdlk7FjatFJCrYK8gRvNvglsyF7Thgv /pyTsRyIUthU0AKn0yRyFOGoeOrL7XX4ZBWbvNtG55o4zN9hSx+/Tz/I2uZ4JxFBj+K6 ahx8HsnB3ak6P/N5dL2ERvS15ivY0heti2TK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.124.13 with SMTP id w13mr3813980ybc.119.1249019192391; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7271DE.7070702@p6m7g8.com> References: <4A7271DE.7070702@p6m7g8.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:46:32 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907302246r10033969p1651104b6e0598cf@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: "Philip M. Gollucci" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror / crash dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:15:02 -0000 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > Hi, > > Say I've got the following: > /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 989M 390M 520M 43% / > /dev/mirror/gm0s1g 15G 1.7G 12G 13% /usr > /dev/mirror/gm0s1h 544G 1.8M 501G 0% /usr/home > /dev/mirror/gm0s1d 1.9G 500M 1.3G 27% /usr/src > /dev/mirror/gm0s1e 1.9G 1.1G 733M 60% /usr/obj > /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G 2.0K 89G 0% /var > > Well I'm trying to get my kernel panics to cause dumps > 1) /etc/rc.conf > dumpdev=AUTO > crashinfo_enable="YES" > > 2) sudo chmod 700 /var/crash > > 3) 8GB RAM, 16GB of swap, /var/crash is 16GB < 97GB > > 4) I have the following in my 7-stable kernel > makeoptions DEBUG=-g > options AUDIT > options KTRACE > options KDB > options KDB_TRACE > options DDB > options GDB > options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER > options INVARIANTS > options INVARIANT_SUPPORT > options WITNESS > options DEBUG_LOCKS > options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS > options LOCK_PROFILING > options DIAGNOSTIC > > The long and the short of it is I don't get any dumps. > > I read somewhere that you can't dump onto a gmirror device. That is incorrect, but I don't know the cause of your problem. I run nothing but gmirror and dumps happen here. > So I've moved /var off of > /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G 2.0K 89G 0% /var > and I can now do what I want with this. > > How do I go about re-jiggering this (2-disk gmirror) so I can use 1 > slice from one of them as my dumpon(8) device? > > TIA > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 06:32:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEDC1065670 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C467A8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so430077eyd.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:32:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iOvM7ySCJhpkdN22vUsh4zwkBGCrMbUfdC9rLCPe7PM=; b=bAo9E3VjEmiGKSZculw04DEfQwBRw136S+QK6giruKI3mh/U90jeYop5NTr8maU1FE E/hhIqIrvxcLsqHvjXkCzsJrsFPZ8CSinYPa2fKO1oD3gQJYwzldLQQNrL21QeP0bmZB O3QAVdLbsrgLJMdmtse6RKVWgjbwxYbWkebGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=K8p0ucuO/FQXCVemCh97mzjjW/XrEITr4Hw5+nqVq7VaIP2U2WWkQKkumpAfxiE5af YqRKxsWQUfRRnkmTsAOAScp5q8zT7FJ2Pc7040aK5PL/xDieotf7mRR/Z+JqWegdJjYu VBEFXXUhcJdDs4GebgDjUy9FATd5CnVfY+TxM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.128.17 with SMTP id a17mr2660236ebd.4.1249021969838; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:32:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:32:51 -0000 Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? I use Firefox (because every page displays well and I can sync bookmarks), and I also use elinks (when graphics don't matter). I'm looking for some middle ground, a browser that can display most sites well but is faster (or more lightweight) than Firefox. (Note: I tried dillo, but it doesn't display most sites well enough.) TIA, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 06:56:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA3D106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3B1C8FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Jul 2009 06:55:58 -0000 Received: from pD952C090.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.192.144] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 08:55:58 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19WFqIc9WFWblkWNNhYTIq1QEqmux+eCCPew/doRm CHQhBGALGRLlS6 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:55:53 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.4; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_08_55_53_+0200_OgJOtkbu+s2rFg0n" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.77 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:56:01 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_08_55_53_+0200_OgJOtkbu+s2rFg0n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:32:49 -0400 Daniel Underwood wrote: > Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? Opera. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_08_55_53_+0200_OgJOtkbu+s2rFg0n Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpylX0ACgkQ8P3NNypXNWVuvACffsEvwB7p6qnb6KN4hHb+ZL+e 3zcAni/FA34q+/sDlmFNqOBivLEjQvYH =sOuq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_08_55_53_+0200_OgJOtkbu+s2rFg0n-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 07:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539D41065674 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristclark@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374478FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cristclark@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NWmT1c0030b6N64A8Wmu5m; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:46:54 +0000 Received: from goku.i.pumpky.net ([24.6.187.121]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NWms1c0022db5Y88PWmtDg; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:46:54 +0000 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:46:50 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090731064650.GB93341@goku.i.pumpky.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Subject: Recovering Trashed Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:00:04 -0000 I have two file systems in very sad shape that I would like to retrieve some files from. I've net booted the sick box and can access the two bad UFSs. One file system, the root file system, isn't too bad off. However, the usr directory is messed up. I can do, # ls .cshrc boot lib proc tmp .profile dev libexec rescue usr .snap entropy lost+found root var COPYRIGHT etc media sbin bin home mnt sys But if I try look at the files (directories), # ls -l ls: lib: Bad file descriptor ls: usr: Bad file descriptor ls: var: Bad file descriptor total 52 -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 787 Jun 25 2008 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 253 Jun 20 2008 .profile drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 Jun 27 2008 .snap -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6188 Jun 20 2008 COPYRIGHT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jun 20 2008 bin drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Jun 28 2008 boot dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 28 2008 dev -rw------- 1 root wheel 4096 Nov 26 2008 entropy drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 2560 Jun 19 22:35 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 25 2008 home drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 libexec drwx------ 2 root wheel 2048 May 23 07:47 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 mnt dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 20 2008 proc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 Jun 20 2008 rescue drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jul 27 21:26 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 Jun 20 2008 sbin lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Jun 20 2008 sys -> usr/src/sys drwx------ 2 root wheel 512 Jun 26 2008 tmp We see "usr" is messed up. And what I'd like to recover are files up in usr/local/etc. Now I can "mount -r /dev/ad0s1a /mnt" to get the above results, but "fsck /dev/ad0s1a" returns, # fsck /dev/ad0s1a ** /dev/ad0s1a BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y 32 is not a file system superblock SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). Some help on recovering the files? I don't need the whole disk intact. As I said, I just want to track down some local stuff in usr/local/etc. As for the second file system, the "var" file system, it is more messed up. Looks like big chucks are zeroed out. But again, there are a few files I would like to recover. I have managed to recover one important one by running, # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f | hexdump -C | more And manually finding the file and then using, # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f skip= count= > /tmp/recovered.txt Then manually editing. But that is too labor intensive to try to grab everything. Again, when I fsck(1) I get the same message as above. Anyone have tools for recovering files from these broken file systems? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 07:06:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB44106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DB68FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n6V6iQcU008248 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:44:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:44:26 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: freebsd-update question. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:06:42 -0000 Embarrassingly simple actually. I configured a new server from a 7.0 CD I made a while back, brought the system to 7.1 the regular way and ran freebsd-update. The embarrassing part is I took little note of the fetch output other than 24 files were updated. Can I find out which 24? As always, thanks for any help Doug _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 07:12:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33A6106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A488FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=WArhLWEKhH63SQZQ46bhdNn8zs7cdjCsYfnn4lXHQSTke2z2sPiU6NbtPZdeXTvVho5A+E6luRuvilITfAS0+j6G3BPRLYXHp8E9vVEXu97C2K4Uu8ffWxJP3aNh0AVR; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:54240) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MWmHa-0007dc-Jy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:12:02 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:12:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <4A720D3F.3090109@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A720D3F.3090109@videotron.ca> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:1) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:12:06 -0000 On Thursday 30 July 2009 23:14:39 PJ wrote: > > But isn't it strange that it used to be pretty simple to upgrade and > update. But recently, I notice that communication between the developers > and users (or is it the manual page writers) are getting far away from > the realities of user/operational needs. Oh, what's the sense of beating > a dead horse, mechanics will never be writers... let's not kid ourselves. I may be misunderstanding what you've been saying over the last couple of days (I can understand your frustration, but your questions would be much clearer if you didn't let it spill over into chippy remarks about FreeBSD like the above). Let me summarise what I think you've said, and what I think it means, and please, correct me if I'm wrong. You run a custom kernel, and you decided for your latest system upgrade that you would use freebsd-update, which as far as I know doesn't work with custom kernels. You discovered this and tried to move your custom kernel aside and put a GENERIC kernel in place for the upgrade, rebooted in the middle of the process, and now when you try and boot up, your system can't find a kernel - which is why the bootloader is asking you to tell it where to look. If that's the case, your data should all still be there in the original slices/partitions (others have told you how to check that). You are likely to struggle to get the system booted unless you can work out where to direct the bootloader to find a kernel, but you may well be able to inspect the data on the disk if you boot a LiveCD (which is a version of FreeBSD that runs from the CD - there's one in the release set). Given the problems you've encountered so far, and the level of effort and learning that's acceptable to you in your situation to try and resolve it, I would suggest you go and buy a new hard drive (they're not expensive these days compared with the cost of your time), and fit it alongside your messed-up drive in your computer. You can then do a fresh install on the new drive, get everything set up the way you want, and then retrieve the data from the old hard drive (various ways to do this: mounting the drive and simply copying files, dump and restore of complete filesystems, etc). You've also thrown in a new problem, which is that X doesn't recognise your mouse. Unfortunately, that doesn't have much to do with FreeBSD. It's a result of a decision by the X developers to require a hardware abstraction layer - you probably need to enable hal and dbus. Googling will put you on the right track. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 08:39:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64841065672; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD3D8FC1A; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWndj-0005ZP-A8; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:39:12 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MWndi-0003U5-CF; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:38:58 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6V8cwFK061145; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:38:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6V8cvTT061144; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:38:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:38:57 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20090731083857.GA58821@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A7271DE.7070702@p6m7g8.com> <6201873e0907302246r10033969p1651104b6e0598cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0907302246r10033969p1651104b6e0598cf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror / crash dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:39:15 -0000 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:46:32AM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Philip M. Gollucci > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Say I've got the following: > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw > > > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a 989M 390M 520M 43% / > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1g 15G 1.7G 12G 13% /usr > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1h 544G 1.8M 501G 0% /usr/home > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1d 1.9G 500M 1.3G 27% /usr/src > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1e 1.9G 1.1G 733M 60% /usr/obj > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 97G 2.0K 89G 0% /var > > > > Well I'm trying to get my kernel panics to cause dumps > > 1) /etc/rc.conf > > dumpdev=AUTO > > crashinfo_enable="YES" > > > > 2) sudo chmod 700 /var/crash > > > > 3) 8GB RAM, 16GB of swap, /var/crash is 16GB < 97GB > > > > 4) I have the following in my 7-stable kernel > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g > > options AUDIT > > options KTRACE > > options KDB > > options KDB_TRACE > > options DDB > > options GDB > > options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER > > options INVARIANTS > > options INVARIANT_SUPPORT > > options WITNESS > > options DEBUG_LOCKS > > options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS > > options LOCK_PROFILING > > options DIAGNOSTIC > > > > The long and the short of it is I don't get any dumps. > > > > I read somewhere that you can't dump onto a gmirror device. > > > That is incorrect, but I don't know the cause of your problem. I run > nothing but gmirror and dumps happen here. I was also told that "you won't get a valid dump if your dumpdev is on a GEOM_MIRROR device" http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ia64/2009-July/002205.html -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 09:34:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE460106567B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linda.messerschmidt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DF18FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linda.messerschmidt@gmail.com) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2629665qyk.3 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:34:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TT9jc8L0JPHxEnBSwQ6eOSg7QZm2cqZNe17GNeQeRPk=; b=Cdis+b7Yt6CQ4z6DJfq8W9bcsWmrnR3ohyo8ss33XeHPfLZBiuQjM8f61tvaWeIvTo /JfDhFyr2KT4eoDnojUm+KyrtabQR4XQM1yDEGUFpEMiV+HguZ4BciU76CiS8HIMRkH3 U49F9fPub6Xungoaw/0GKF9qtfvTPZWKueBBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mSG8RCvEgsCbJ2iYFMTl2dXAHMA/wnpc60vRVYF9o6DraAMFIIlM9WJ55Eu0NGRHRp 5w9fRpuZ66S2gRfK7eKqMzGwZyM6Ol4BKsl8vkO0o2ZQuLOIMbcay3XtwZEzN08BQHrj 5DeWRNfIe/g5EBIL6FOF5ZWW2CzCa4uXX8uUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.6 with SMTP id f6mr440257qcn.81.1249031177524; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:06:17 -0400 Message-ID: <237c27100907310206w451c4188w9db27b78d9d9202f@mail.gmail.com> From: Linda Messerschmidt To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where have all the vnodes gone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:34:57 -0000 With the last few releases, I've noticed a distinct trend toward disappearing vnodes on one of the machines I look after. This machine isn't doing a whole lot. It runs a couple of small web sites, and once an hour it rsync's some files from one NFS mount to another, but the rsync doesn't stay running; it restarts every hour and runs for 10-15 minutes. I set it to log the number of vnodes every ten minutes and this is what I got: 00:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 39337 00:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 40568 01:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 44554 01:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 52141 01:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 55713 01:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 58643 01:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 60792 01:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 67130 02:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 76035 02:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 84349 02:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 92187 02:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 98114 02:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 116854 02:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 124842 03:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 164173 03:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 172257 03:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 178388 03:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 183066 03:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 190092 03:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 198322 04:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 204598 04:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 208311 04:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 214207 04:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 221028 04:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 227792 04:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 233214 05:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 240112 05:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 247572 05:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 256090 05:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 262720 05:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 269755 05:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 274986 06:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 279879 06:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 287039 06:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 291984 06:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 294267 06:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 296658 06:57:59 vfs.numvnodes: 299086 07:07:59 vfs.numvnodes: 301825 07:17:59 vfs.numvnodes: 309060 07:27:59 vfs.numvnodes: 312955 07:37:59 vfs.numvnodes: 317400 07:47:59 vfs.numvnodes: 320047 At that point the machine crashed with: panic: kmem_malloc(16384): kmem_map too small: 334745600 total allocated If I don't tune kern.maxvnodes up to the point where it panics, then eventually it runs out of vnodes and all sorts of stuff gets stuck in vlruwk. The machine in question is running 7.2-RELEASE-p3, but I already upgraded it from 7.1 trying to get this to go away, so it's a problem that's been around for awhile. My guess is that they're leaking in the kernel somewhere because of the rsync, because there's just not much else going on, but unless I can figure out how many vnodes are being used on a per-process basis, I can't make any headway on proving or disproving that. I do know that according to fstat, there are only 1000-1500 descriptors open at any given time, and kern.openfiles ranges 250-500. So I'm just mystified what the other 300000+ could be. Is there any way to figure out where all these vnodes are going? TIA for any advice! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 09:47:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4393E106568D for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B128FC23 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7291E414; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6V9lCcA001480; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> Message-Id: <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:47:20 -0000 On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:55:53 +0200, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:32:49 -0400 > Daniel Underwood wrote: > > > Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? > Opera. Traditionally, I would have suggested Opera too, because it has been my favourite browser for many years now. But with recent versions, I saw it getting... hmmm... how do I tell best? It's getting more slower in overall handling, and it often stops working completely (several seconds); printing isn't as good as in Firefox, and it won't work on some sites that are no problem with Firefox. Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, and some other stuff that could easily be called "bloatware". (Don't get me wrong: The M2 mail client isn't that bad, but far from lightweight, as the whole Opera is today.) But maybe that's only "my problem" (due to my ancient computer and OS). Try Opera. Maybe it works for you. And: No, I'm no Firefox advocate. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 10:00:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504621065672 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED92D8FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EC91E442; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:00:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6VA0kSu001532; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:00:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:00:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Message-Id: <20090731120046.82c135ca.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090731064650.GB93341@goku.i.pumpky.net> References: <20090731064650.GB93341@goku.i.pumpky.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Crist J. Clark" Subject: Re: Recovering Trashed Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:00:54 -0000 On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:46:50 -0700, "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > But if I try look at the files (directories), > > # ls -l > ls: lib: Bad file descriptor > ls: usr: Bad file descriptor > ls: var: Bad file descriptor Same here - allthough on a much more important place - my former home directory. > We see "usr" is messed up. And what I'd like to recover are > files up in usr/local/etc. > > Now I can "mount -r /dev/ad0s1a /mnt" to get the above results, > but "fsck /dev/ad0s1a" returns, > > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a > ** /dev/ad0s1a > BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE > > LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y > > 32 is not a file system superblock > SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE > -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE > SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). You could try do locate superblocks using this command: > Some help on recovering the files? Yes, use your backup. :-) Don't mind, I (still) am in a similar situation, so I won't poke any more fun at you. Before you do anything else: Make a 1:1 copy using dd of your file systems. Boot from a live CD and have access to another hard disk. Then do: # dd if=/dev/ad0s1a of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1a.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1d of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1d.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1e of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1e.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1f.dd bs=1m # dd if=/dev/ad0s1g of=/rescuedisk/ad0s1g.dd bs=1m This is to make sure that any further fsck run won't mess up the file system. Use the dd images for retrieval. Change the device names to the correct names. Maybe when you're running fsck -yf on a device, it can do more damage... Install the port ffs2recov and use its -s and -p options. Refer to the excellent manpage. > I don't need the whole > disk intact. As I said, I just want to track down some local > stuff in usr/local/etc. There is always the option of doing a low-level recovery. Install The Sleuth Kit from ports and try. In most cases, you will lose the file names, but with a quick search, you could easily identify the files from /usr/local/etc that you want to have back. But that would be my last choice. > As for the second file system, the "var" file system, it is > more messed up. Looks like big chucks are zeroed out. But > again, there are a few files I would like to recover. I > have managed to recover one important one by running, > > # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f | hexdump -C | more > > And manually finding the file and then using, > > # dd if=/dev/ad0s1f skip= count= > /tmp/recovered.txt > > Then manually editing. But that is too labor intensive to try > to grab everything. You should really try ffs2recov, allthough your "manual approach" is already a good means. > Again, when I fsck(1) I get the same message as above. Anyone > have tools for recovering files from these broken file systems? Here's a short list I made up, maybe something gives you another point where to start: System: dd fsck_ffs clri fsdb (!!!) fetch -rR recoverdisk (!) Ports: ddrescue dd_rescue ffs2recov magicrescue testdisk The Sleuth Kit: fls dls ils autopsy scan_ffs recoverjpeg foremost photorec Finally, may I ask if you have any ideas about what caused this problem? Good luck! -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 10:22:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B22E1065674 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66538FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE00D1E4EE; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:22:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6VAMQAm001581; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:22:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:22:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mel Flynn Message-Id: <20090731122225.c9c58b60.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200907302119.14761.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200907302119.14761.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:22:33 -0000 On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:19:14 -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: > That is very weird, since most of the community regards the 5.x series as= the=20 > worst in FreeBSD's history. Until it completely destroyed itself, I had a 5.4-p? running at my home machine without any problems. Please let me emphasize this statement: WITHOUT. ANY. PROBLEMS. I have more trouble with 7-STABLE... I still have a 300 MHz P2 with FreeBSD 5.4-p12 that runs faster than my 2 GHz P4 with 7-STABLE which won=C4't run mplayer correctly, games don't work, and much more. I feel that I have spent more time getting 7 to run halfway as good as 5 was. > I've personally seen significant improvements in both reliability and=20 > performance since 5.x, with respect to kernel and base. System performance has gotten much better. I've experienced FreeBSD 6 only for server use, and tested it with PC-BSD on the desktop, so I don't have a usable opinion there. > As far as I'm concerned, 7.2 is the best release so far. I'll make a copy of this statement and check if it's still true after I performed the update. :-) > I do share the Xorg frustration,=20 > primarily because there is no alternative and has degraded into a "linux = X11=20 > server, with some considerations for other operating systems, without any= form=20 > of release engineering or regression testing". Allthough you can still get rid of some "builtin problems", either by changing your configuration files or recompiling X with some compile time options, there's still the (important) first impression that some developers artificially made things harder to get X running, with no understandable reason. After some reading, I found out that HAL and DBUS, for example, are important and useful for getting Gnome's auto mounting facilities working, and that's good. But if you don't run Gnome and don't want any automounting stuff (maybe intendedly due to security reasons), you still sit there with this stuff required. > While XFree86 was harder to=20 > configure, it's stability was far less of an issue. Depends on your hardware. XFree86 always configured fast, fine and correct on my systems. And it could run with 1400x1050 which X.org can't do anymore, surprisingly. --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 10:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2B41065673 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF378FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6VAb9De064888; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:37:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8EA5ABA8C; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:37:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:37:09 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Message-ID: <20090731103709.GA61356@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090731064650.GB93341@goku.i.pumpky.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090731064650.GB93341@goku.i.pumpky.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering Trashed Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:44 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:46:50PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > I have two file systems in very sad shape that I would like > to retrieve some files from. I've net booted the sick box > and can access the two bad UFSs. One file system, the root > file system, isn't too bad off. However, the usr directory > is messed up. > Now I can "mount -r /dev/ad0s1a /mnt" to get the above results, > but "fsck /dev/ad0s1a" returns, >=20 > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a > ** /dev/ad0s1a > BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALT= ERNATE >=20 > LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y >=20 > 32 is not a file system superblock > SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE > -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE > SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). Try 'fsck_ffs -b 160 /dev/ad0s1a' assuming you're using a UFS2 filesystem. If that doesn't work, try adding the '-D' flag, but heed the warning in fsck_ffs(8). Only run fsck_ffs when the filesystem is not mounted! If you can, make a copy of the damaged fs and save it to another disk or another machine. Then try to repair the copy. If it fails, you haven't lost your original data. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpyyVUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVf+wCeIeVOIab7RBM1oT5RKDbqPg42 wwcAn1ztyjCOnk2uza++PUv4g9/GyUvj =9VlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 10:54:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D22A1065693 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.danecki@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com (mail-fx0-f210.google.com [209.85.220.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A32A8FC17 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g.danecki@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so75269fxm.43 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:54:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=6PqYtEJi+XxGPYNlnpAcEhiUXjDZpfpMbtj3UoHoASA=; b=wTEHfcV7cAH1mEkNtHVF9p8GnS+WSQx58wBgwmMiO8LefErnyoMX19wIjGNdWKyITh V9I4idJrIUsCST0eC1wu6OnL6nW6X0uD3pKhqGhK3F9BKxKRA3z2s+/YxEI2FuQ8B51b j6rnHMc5r1549aka1rHRYjLU5qvcZq3YoGqJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=cosh/OaGT1aPmAF7sePUFyUavxPGBRKTZCsXYeJ7Ik/C+0D4/hfjFZELTQreWe232G btJA0AjeLOpY5lzWn9hZBuN4+PUN1FaixypgQO+YywZOAz1O1yx1Eh1cHeOc88Z3Vzla N6apRPlntpvqZ8NmTpRVSdGbJ8wTgr7Ur/CfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.211 with SMTP id o19mr1329422fap.57.1249035891687; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Grzegorz Danecki Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:24:31 +0200 Message-ID: <41b95770907310324j397b5810v6793c9c314f8ce61@mail.gmail.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: gmirror on different disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:54:05 -0000 Hello everybody! I'm just wondering, I had gmirror with two disks: Master: ad0 Serial ATA II Master: ad2 Serial ATA II unfortunately ad0 failed today, leaving me with degraded array and ad0 offline. I did # gmirror forget gm0, then shutdown, ad0 was replaced with: ad0: 152626MB at ata0-master SATA300 with different firmware I think. Then gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad0 (...) Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad0 finished. Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 activated. But the disk is a little bit smaller: 1. Name: mirror/gm0 Mediasize: 160040803328 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e6 Consumers: 1. Name: ad2 Mediasize: 160041885696 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 1 ID: 3791030614 2. Name: ad0 Mediasize: 160040803840 (149G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: DIRTY GenID: 1 SyncID: 1 ID: 2477089776 # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad2 ad0 so, it looks fine. Can I expect any problems now because of different sizes? Any problems when RAID will be almost full? I mean - should I make the RAID once again with exactly the same drives, or can I leave it as it is right now? Thanks in advance! -- Grzegorz Danecki From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 10:56:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9556D1065670 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.riegler@cbtl.de) Received: from mail.cbt-l.de (host-62-245-168-234.customer.m-online.net [62.245.168.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C0DE8FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from w.riegler@cbtl.de) Received: (qmail 28630 invoked by uid 1009); 31 Jul 2009 10:30:04 -0000 Received: from 192.168.40.46 by mail.cbt-l.de (envelope-from , uid 1008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.95.1/9216. spamassassin: 3.1.8. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(192.168.40.46):. Processed in 0.040652 secs); 31 Jul 2009 10:30:04 -0000 X-Antivirus-CBTL-Mail-From: w.riegler@cbtl.de via mail.cbt-l.de X-Antivirus-CBTL: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(192.168.40.46):. Processed in 0.040652 secs Process 28623) Received: from wolfgang.cbt-l.de (w.riegler@cbt-l.de@192.168.40.46) by mail.cbt-l.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 10:30:04 -0000 From: Wolfgang Riegler Organization: CBTL GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:30:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:56:49 -0000 Give Midori a try. Of course it's a young project and maybe there are not all of the features of Firefox or Opera, but Midori is lightweight and really fast. It's based on WebKit, so there should be no problem with standard conform websites. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 11:47:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF724106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelrmgreen@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08DA68FC19 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelrmgreen@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 53980 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2009 11:20:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1249039228; bh=TDbfkd+gn7vyuxdtZ6jn5iuUxjVdGySsWW0VboUjAuw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QLRClPWaoOrbFHbBJAun326+4kyHeT9JkdFjjCIV5tkv5GDH36/P9C4n/53BMF7OzG4JFh/LCiMaDB6+aX5olYlkrRBUcVvznC1mHNy2OZxTdbjvM86hsmtUa4XK+CCrvWnIC0lk0IRcHEx38cGHiYdxMMr10KmFsH2OSt302fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rUC0t92yyu/ccpmok6zFOmiVNN3AteJiBkfCr7ajmMRkMge1vEGYFRmxbzqiRUgmkNCHahsCV3zTcaQALVhbi9Ges6amwqaFnic1t4ZgCBvBXJPv1cHqgJHODbtiSJ+70m2/5+C8BYzFZKpPR0wW9pyxYPaDRf9hLTfZHHAdRow=; Message-ID: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nVJoztAVM1nhGr0nVL3UWw1TYaGZAqrlI7uVQ81vk0gz3jA9VD.SkwprI0QSofqPYsCaFBveQCGTZ1Y3FzjjZGWvK8fuNSV5asChLFP48YTjNJyasnOB6BdbT0KSsyWpzqP_G4mFwh1rZse1BJc8a8VJh0XgCeVPC.Zt9kRJ4x5rXYLUwuul.dnoiRXWyhTHS7OXgbbxcLxqBpy2MkZ_pCkWljq2AkWt2VUErvARBBz5rsgAfqUU8L8v2b3gYZi8hNGY5_Wnic4w0ZFjP0j.4IHOY.Ph3DLWiN6OqM0wagd077yNkthsmTcShwWKFzsFBLLLpCf7vga55ee1vJrZG6TlxyHjzgNOCGQWfk8kuifkwN0jyZs- Received: from [212.248.163.195] by web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:20:27 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:20:27 +0000 (GMT) From: michael green To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Difficulty in installing ncurses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:09 -0000 7.2-RELEASE #0. Generic kernel. Full installation from DVD. I'm trying to install ncurses because I want to run FoxPro Unix, which expe= cts a terminfo database. I did this: # cd /usr/src/contrib/ncurses [Enter] # ./configure [Enter] The last line of output is config.status: error: cannot find input file: test/Makefile.in I contacted the authors and I got a reply stating: "It looks as if the sour= ce-tree is incomplete " and an alternative approach to installation. How should I proceed? Thanks in advance.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 12:39:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DF71065673 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCF68FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6VCd1jH075637; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:39:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 16F7ABA90; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:39:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:39:01 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: michael green Message-ID: <20090731123901.GA65912@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Difficulty in installing ncurses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:39:03 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:20:27AM +0000, michael green wrote: > 7.2-RELEASE #0. Generic kernel. Full installation from DVD. >=20 > I'm trying to install ncurses because I want to run FoxPro Unix, which > expects a terminfo database. =20 You don't have to install it. It is already installed because it is part of the base system. =20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpy5eUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWwMACfa8ogRl4Uv28jq5tH3EpbRaJY n/gAnRcigaPqkPTEFCbzMARIovjuZDlE =IRKm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 13:10:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3331065673 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368828FC15 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1709715ywh.14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:10:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/YYrVM/HXIhUXhoASxy2guEqqSttVKZH2ShuDd9vaKs=; b=nJIlTOLLwPD33NQOt81kt/jKpcbXZfxRJFhex6qmwQ2L7mFU6gsKX/+eKIx2IVx9sP PzhjU2h9OeH0BU1OZCTNBesPjxtKXWI2aqFlBpgiBoE4Z2X+0jFooi8oXqLd0vhdGj45 Tf6eLfDJTjam3ilhI5aGbcUw316RaKOcTz+oM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FIHqvyNgPW5qBc1ih10ZgxoGmTUS3gtIUJVMZqQw13PWpZ4+QQq7Nl12VLna1vwBfg eyOY71LTqRNMqznaONhACwu+iR3L4w5+rCKLdyn72aXJlIw6qVfIZsrpbogwKAOVJuzd dJwSIPLijwYI/RSljA8xb+bXPAyK6FzhSRXNY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.51.4 with SMTP id d4mr4544354ybk.157.1249045851671; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:10:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <41b95770907310324j397b5810v6793c9c314f8ce61@mail.gmail.com> References: <41b95770907310324j397b5810v6793c9c314f8ce61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907310610x4c6e77d8n43ecca075475ad6d@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Grzegorz Danecki Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror on different disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:10:52 -0000 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Grzegorz Danecki wrote: > Hello everybody! > > I'm just wondering, I had gmirror with two disks: > > Master: ad0 Serial ATA II > Master: ad2 Serial ATA II > > unfortunately ad0 failed today, leaving me with degraded array and ad0 > offline. > > I did > > # gmirror forget gm0, then shutdown, ad0 was replaced with: > > ad0: 152626MB at ata0-master SATA300 > > with different firmware I think. > > Then gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad0 > > (...) > Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider > ad0 finished. > Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 > activated. > > But the disk is a little bit smaller: > > 1. Name: mirror/gm0 > Mediasize: 160040803328 (149G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e6 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad2 > Mediasize: 160041885696 (149G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r1w1e1 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > GenID: 1 > SyncID: 1 > ID: 3791030614 > 2. Name: ad0 > Mediasize: 160040803840 (149G) > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r1w1e1 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > GenID: 1 > SyncID: 1 > ID: 2477089776 > > # gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad2 > ad0 > > so, it looks fine. > > Can I expect any problems now because of different sizes? Any problems when > RAID will be almost full? > I mean - should I make the RAID once again with exactly the same drives, or > can I leave it as it is right now? > > Thanks in advance! > > Drives don't matter to gmirror as long as they are at least big enough. You may get better performance with identical drives however. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 13:29:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE548106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585518FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1133949bwz.43 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bs3ATdoJfJLZzaAfLz1Sbb8lczyx/rDMuuo6u5N89SQ=; b=EfLsFd3NOwR6hNsNAfA/eC059qa7ArCuJWMcQhBa2I/dHDVFByXHui/6Lin8MVhZ3A 7uCTi+9gHiETyS8xGHb3RoT5k/nDTIuhzCk0H2qr2KmPHZhqtECNF6+oj13dc5Q+ZO05 Vkm3j06Rmi4/ceocrAZ/YYaKJT+Ci4f0RD5xE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kNoDGyjtik9DR22jJWoRRCRC9HcSLgkWw5+lPyH9aBR8VO/PJmFB6YnYxZPu1vbGsd PSqpOsyoghh0GWlOCD6w0VIkR1YFq3yituTJj4i225HtL1BhgwM/eadCJIaJkxcAUPL0 WrsTVGr9aFCouvdY14uhZVWfXxxyinlKCmEdw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.167.212 with SMTP id h20mr241375hbe.68.1249046977816; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750907260719x761a1c94r27c572ab1ff6a582@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ddd1750907260719x761a1c94r27c572ab1ff6a582@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:29:37 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, Maxim Khitrov Subject: Re: UFS2 tuning for heterogeneous 4TB file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:29:40 -0000 On 7/26/09, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM, b. f. wrote: >>>The file system in question will not have a common file size (which is >>>what, as I understand, bytes per inode should be tuned for). There >>>will be many small files (< 10 KB) and many large ones (> 500 MB). A >>>similar, in terms of content, 2TB ntfs file system on another server >>>has an average file size of about 26 MB with 59,246 files. >> >> Ordinarily, it may have a large variation in file sizes, but can you >> intervene, and segregate large and small files in separate >> filesystems, so that you can optimize the settings for each >> independently? > > That's a good idea, but the problem is that this raid array will grow > in the future as I add additional drives. As far as I know, a > partition can be expanded using growfs, but it cannot be moved to a > higher address (with any "standard" tools). So if I create two > separate partitions for different file types, the first partition will > have to remain a fixed size. That would be problematic, since I cannot > easily predict how much space it would need initially and for all > future purposes (enough to store all the files, yet not waste space > that could otherwise be used for the second partition). > Perhaps gconcat(8), gmirror(8), or vinum(4) will solve your problem here. I think there are other tools as well. >>>Ideally, I would prefer that small files do not waste more than 4 KB >>>of space, which is what you have with ntfs. At the same time, having >>>fsck running for days after an unclean shutdown is also not a good >>>option (I always disable background checking). From what I've gathered >>>so far, the two requirements are at the opposite ends in terms of file >>>system optimization. >> >> I gather you are trying to be conservative, but have you considered >> using gjournal(8)? At least for the filesystems with many small >> files? In that way, you could safely avoid the need for most if not >> all use of fsck(8), and, as an adjunct benefit, you would be able to >> operate on the small files more quickly: >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-June/064043.html >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/gjournal-desktop/article.html >> >> gjournal has a lower overhead than ZFS, and has proven to be fairly >> reliable. Also, you can always unhook it and revert to plain UFS >> mounts easily. >> >> b. >> > > Just fairly reliable? :) > Well, I'm not going to promise the sun, the moon, and the stars. It has worked for me (better than softupdates, I might add) under my more modest workloads. > I've done a bit of reading on gjournal and the main thing that's > preventing me from using it is the recency of implementation. I've had > a number of FreeBSD servers go down in the past due to power outages > and SoftUpdates with foreground fsck have never failed me. I have > never had a corrupt ufs2 partition, which is not something I can say > about a few linux servers with ext3. > > Have there been any serious studies into how gjournal and SU deal with > power outages? By that I mean taking two identical machines, issuing > write operations, yanking the power cords, and then watching both > systems recover? I'm sure that gjournal will take less time to reboot, > but if this experiment is repeated a few hundred times I wonder what > the corruption statistics would be. Is there ever a case, for > instance, when the journal itself becomes corrupt because the power > was pulled in the middle of a metadata flush? > I'm not aware of any such tests, but I wouldn't be surprised if pjd@ or someone else who was interested in using gjournal(8) in a demanding environment had made some. I'll cc freebsd-fs@, because some of them may not monitor freebsd-questions. Perhaps someone there has some advice. You might also try asking on freebsd-geom@. Regards, b. > Basically, I have no experience with gjournal, poor experience with > other journaled file systems, and no real comparison between > reliability characteristics of gjournal and SoftUpdates, which have > served me very well in the past. > > - Max > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 13:51:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D998E106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4565abcf6=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648D48FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4565abcf6=a@jenisch.at) Received: from exchh1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.20]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 Received: from vsrv33.oekb.co.at (143.245.2.59) by exchh1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.358.0; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.187]) by vsrv33.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6VDLl0n002662; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n6VDLl9n002661; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:47 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090731132147.GA2631@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2009 13:21:47.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB2A80B0:01CA11E1] Cc: Subject: NFS-client - RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure (7.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:51:19 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get a FreeBSD 7.2-machine (amd64) to talk to a NetApp filer using NFS. Basic network connetivity, i.e. ping, ssh etc. between the two is there, but I can't mount the respective directory from the Netapp. Here's what I get when I try to mount: # mount_nfs -i -T 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2 /mnt [tcp] 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out [tcp] 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out [tcp] 192.168.1.9:/vol/vol2: RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out ... When I try the mount via UDP same story (only that at the beginning of the error message it reads [udp] This is what I've got in my /etc/rc.conf: nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_client_flags="-n 4" Any ideas what could be wrong here? Thanks in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 14:10:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49CF106567C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369548FC1D for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1457942ewy.43 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:10:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nr5ZZhzR/inqd7H7EaSCLYQYWCCHVp5fm+0XP9N/SpQ=; b=W+3yvCH+ncmn/aVMEucnxYfeUWmNexnQ8R1LlHDAtXpR0DFcOGbQl1j51a2pMr2DXX fOq8PJxMWroSmwkeugKxmEBVhSU+MgIBOTKhqCssScoHsLIWRnnzDnPTjMF5/tWsP5/Q DZS9zBgydeBnsUbAFVFdRG55FqoTRYqVbZnYQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L81d6F7vXkrQ1KOP8Jcq4GO5ciWnCb+Ok7sCd+oZQ+hOxwKf4L375vtkYz6PLzAo7k ofGH5jvVuigwrtgxq6vrT20U/3q6zHyGsLWR1k1Pufj5AGgOBRKNwWkNckN7P3B2NNu0 Py09VRTrS9bPKjTcXdozG0s2flCjmiephOW3M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.41.14 with SMTP id o14mr535538ebo.23.1249049449274; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:10:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> References: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Wolfgang Riegler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:10:51 -0000 > Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now > bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found > no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, > and some other stuff that could easily be called "bloatware". Yeah, I share your take on Opera. > Give Midori a try. Of course it's a young project and maybe there are not all > of the features of Firefox or Opera, but Midori is lightweight and really > fast. It's based on WebKit, so there should be no problem with standard > conform websites. Perfect, yes! Midori is precisely what I need! Many thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 15:04:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A42106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD1008FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Jul 2009 15:04:26 -0000 Received: from pD952E304.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.227.4] by mail.gmx.net (mp068) with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 17:04:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19GKUBMoWNGqanGReTn4+nFydw4szIQhX3PynY+Pv f+d9SruP/bQ2kN Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:22 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Polytropon Message-Id: <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.4; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_17_04_22_+0200_XwckP5iUeD3dgZp1" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.55 Cc: Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net>, Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:04:29 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_17_04_22_+0200_XwckP5iUeD3dgZp1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:11 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > versions, I saw it getting... hmmm... how do I tell best? It's > getting more slower in overall handling, and it often stops > working completely (several seconds) I have not noticed such behaviour yet. > problem with Firefox. Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now > bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found > no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, > and some other stuff that could easily be called "bloatware". I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. Yes, there are options not that not everyone needs, but then again, most of the time they do not get loaded / appear in the menu when not used. Also take a look at the size of the installers: Opera 9.64/Windows: Classic Installer, English (US) 4.8 MB English (US) 5.4 MB International 7.2 MB Opera 9.64/FreeBSD 7.x (Static) 7.0 MB Win32 Binaries: midori Win32 v0.1.8 12.9 MB Firefox English (British) 3.5.1 win32 7.6MB Firefox English (British) 3.5.1 linux 9.3MB And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to download extra extensions in Firefox. > But maybe that's only "my problem" (due to my ancient computer > and OS). For me, Opera works much better on older hardware than Firefox. >Try Opera. Maybe it works for you. Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_17_04_22_+0200_XwckP5iUeD3dgZp1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpzB/kACgkQ8P3NNypXNWWAEwCgrVMTI/rKzbyS/7Nu3OBGTQfX KRgAoIBs90Bad1oubCRA0bm/e8deHewq =m2YG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__31_Jul_2009_17_04_22_+0200_XwckP5iUeD3dgZp1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 16:10:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBB61065695 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9598FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1544045ewy.43 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VeHEsnTBiXo7kaYmICxr04EpL2kLLm3z5yZ04WiJCXo=; b=ZIX9+YW79/TwBs42JrYxyiaYeX/PmBPKuR6XNo0qeaxf3/gRkzEQ1QEKyKl2bLHT18 uDzVA4ic5IzHRFxflpFkAwa5RZi7VkbvVjUfVMgopBA9h9uNizdpdqRlPOJgJVHGNvl+ 6AsgfEU35BwiaP3XxEpglXdRudCttY/vTh1bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ODAqWYaXrwLEfMa6m0NdWikXwhHLPEQokiG8UqDk9oIJk377tDvYIlhN8pvpcOoDj6 24D8DMKyeB+6gpFjeA5vQf/CO1Tflbfho+b9VZszpnzmWH+qxHj5jusyuzOAw/OJqnqV pTWktREgxa9OxMRphTFJMpkBbh9AyBBqsDSbA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.72.207 with SMTP id t57mr535176wed.158.1249056638184; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:10:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:10:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Andreas Rudisch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:10:40 -0000 I would use Opera as an alternative to Firefox. If I can find a way to sync bookmarks across Opera browsers, I'll give it a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 16:28:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C32106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426A8FC0C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1556133ewy.43 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3Igj1EcdRwwN5SZo4YRCLuRH9ZZB3U+EYHiyNC9mq+Q=; b=SVcfYS9TXd1Ho0v8A0Rh5TfTSr9IoZLvzraAJIATB6EPBmcUvK8oOXMJ5wS8f60iuz vtfNLkerVU0iX26nkcx/ZBVQnR9kgcxKOVx1QwfOlGUPFOSjEhrdrN4Hve2Rd0PKCndD HaJRY1HhWOrzB0k+CpI3TEOEO8fmPOTaxl78o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YJXyWGgMV8Y5JI0LKok6NvCfmKmt5ZFql90afu7eJPHbfAWI55nkIEeKTulNkM+INN dCENKTzIbJRF96vu1xRAtoKwSKW3KJiNwxNyrJSrlr0SCiEl8ADkacHb1iypn9q5dJ9s s9fd/qJ/na+MoxCWzXmhYaEglmOTyxUTsewAQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.207 with SMTP id y57mr549805wee.94.1249057709059; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:28:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Andreas Rudisch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:28:30 -0000 > I would use Opera as an alternative to Firefox. =A0If I can find a way > to sync bookmarks across Opera browsers, I'll give it a try. I didn't realize Opera has built-in synchronization. That's pretty nice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 17:01:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E5F1065688 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enidv11@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074B18FC12 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enidv11@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1577550ewy.43 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=4pgZNrPLag7XUmbKZrsEimN2vq8sy6hNthWKDF+C+1A=; b=ohy/ImGVY/iYIXcZHM+/X4w1BVjuFPxMgcY616N58nKvLZepGsDEsCEeA7qOfJpKUa FtIfouVVgcbKgtArmjjZ/lesISK0aq4EYx0NbKI0j/O4tqeXLN2qF9IcACmv+DK+qpOu yOnow/NhlEzl1pRW3+5iAl8ykBn2yzTxZBmGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jMIK2a40hGITSFed9NBqL2cFMf4JQrwjUEPitysvQOLwYu6lIWPWQJTydd47tsdZbi EogLIkxTzUHRZsx3KAdlaoQYvOxJ68ogj36xdPbVQsSHTqgqwHqStAmwwN5/eF0dEHen Z2nbdgL0FK0+VqI0qQAvzcG6tbdzt5rQD0BgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.141 with SMTP id l13mr537103wef.67.1249058396722; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:39:56 +0200 Message-ID: <77b5ce830907310939k7583e625na9786c6efd6d0de8@mail.gmail.com> From: enid vx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Not recognizing raid controller Adaptec AIC7901 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:01:46 -0000 Hi all, I'm having some problems installing FreeBSD 6.3 on my machine equipped with : Single channel Adaptec=AE AIC-7901 controller for Ultra320 SCSI Host RAID 0, 1, 10 support I have 4 disks which are configured in 2 Raid1, the problem is when I try to install FreeBSd from the installer cd, it show= s only the separated disks. I've added also ahd_load=3D"YES" into /boot/loader.conf on the installation cd, also on the boot prompt load ahd load ahd.ko and then boot but again with no success . It were recognized only the 4 disks as separated. How can I make it recognize the raid ? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 17:36:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39C2106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7BF8FC16 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBB248AB12F; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:36:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:36:34 -0700 From: Jason To: enid vx Message-ID: <20090731173631.GA31081@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <77b5ce830907310939k7583e625na9786c6efd6d0de8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77b5ce830907310939k7583e625na9786c6efd6d0de8@mail.gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p6 EGGMAN X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not recognizing raid controller Adaptec AIC7901 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:36:50 -0000 You may want to try using the Adaptec drivers from Adaptec, and not the native freebsd drivers. Edit /boot/loader.conf, and that may be it. I've found great success with them. -jgh On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:39:56PM +0200, enid vx thus spake: >Hi all, > >I'm having some problems installing FreeBSD 6.3 on my machine equipped with >: > >Single channel Adaptec? AIC-7901 controller for Ultra320 SCSI >Host RAID 0, 1, 10 support > >I have 4 disks which are configured in 2 Raid1, > >the problem is when I try to install FreeBSd from the installer cd, it shows >only the separated disks. > >I've added also ahd_load="YES" into /boot/loader.conf on the installation >cd, >also on the boot prompt >load ahd >load ahd.ko >and then boot > >but again with no success . >It were recognized only the 4 disks as separated. > >How can I make it recognize the raid ? > >Thanks in advance. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 18:20:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42171065677 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4128FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 1A245471ECE for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:20:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24553865B4 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:20:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:20:40 +0200 Message-Id: <200907312020.AA230163034@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: amd64 and sysinstall weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:38 -0000 Dell PE 1950 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 boot from disc01 into sysinstall, do our regular setup, reboot, and df shows only / and /devfs. f stab has /usr and /var missing. so we go into sysinstall, slices are correct: Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 17688 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 284157720 sectors (138748MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 10474317 10474379 mfid0s1 8 freebsd 165 10474380 4192965 14667344 mfid0s2 8 freebsd 165 14667345 10474380 25141724 mfid0s3 8 freebsd 165 25141725 259015995 284157719 mfid0s4 8 freebsd 165 284157720 6376 284164095 - 12 unused 0 but labels: FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s2 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s3 Free: 10474380 blocks (5114MB) Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s4 Free: 259015995 blocks (123GB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ufsid/4a72b432c4 5114MB * mfid0s2b swap 2047MB SWAP .. the /usr and /var mount points were "lost". fstab: cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/mfid0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 we saw the /var and /usr filesystems were really there, so we added to fstab: /dev/mfid0s3 /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mfid0s4 /var ufs rw 2 2 and rebooted, all seems ok. We went through this drill twice, and got the same results. /var/run/dmesg: mfid0: on mfi0 mfid0: 138752MB (284164096 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s1 is ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. Anybody know why the sysintall labels and fstab aren't showing up the way we set them up in sysinstall? thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 18:36:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFE61065672 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFBA8FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNN00DWBT0N3ZV0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:36:23 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:36:26 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Roland Smith wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >>>> sector screwed up? >>>> > > I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed > up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. > > Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things > that could have gone wrong. See below. > > > >>>> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >>>> >>> Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. >>> >>> >> how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? >> > > Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall > on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run > fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. > > If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls > /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. > What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get > something like this: > > /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d > /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e > /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f > /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g > /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli > > If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been > overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 > but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your > data is lost as well. > > Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see > /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: > > bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 > # /dev/ad4s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1024000 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 > b: 16777216 1024016 swap > c: 976768002 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit > d: 4194304 17801232 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > e: 104857600 21995536 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > f: 41943040 126853136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > g: 807971826 168796176 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 > > This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD > filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. > > Try these steps and report back what you find. > > >>>> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >>>> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >>>> >>> Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. >>> >>> >> Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are >> there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't >> all be that stupid.) >> > > It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and > problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be > posting very much. :-) > > As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are > knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes > lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are > self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a > subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system > because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. > > If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. > > > Roland > Thanks for replying Roland, I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of my time and I am still not happy. I have it running now; Xorg finally came through but I have absolutely no idea how or why it finally started working. Actually, it was my last attempt to start it and I was totally surprised that it came up. I decided to try my former xorg.conf file which had the correct mouse driver etc. that hal did not find. X -configure was useless and totally off the track and tweaking the xorg.conf.new file did not work. In total desperation I had installed all the xorg files needed or not and hoped that might help... at first, it did not, at least I couldn't tell as there was no change. But getting flashplayer to work... that's an impossibility as I can see on this machine. Nor does gnash work... it installs and shows up under about:plugins on Firefox... but that's as far as it goest... same for flashplayer9 and linux-f8-flashplayer10 can't find the files to download ( but a few days ago they were available and worked on the amd64 system). Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was the last on the list) and I got the boot cursor (I think) ... so I entered? and got the list of commands. BTW, I don't know where to find some instructions on how to use the livefs and the command line procedures to work with to do a reccovery. For one, I find that the screen scrolls by so fast, I miss half of what is going on and I don't know how to get more to work... it never has before... I finally got a list of the devices with lsdev and thatgives me cd devices: cd0: Device 0x1 disk devices: disk0: BIOS drive a: disk1: BIOS drive C: disk1s1: Unknown fs: 0x7 (I think this must be ntfs ? but ? ) disk2: BIOS drive D: disk3: BIOS drive E: disk3s1a: FFS disk3s1b: swap disk3s1d: FFS disk3s1e: FFS disk3s1f: FFS pxe devices: ====== ls shows what apears to be the filesystem: a couple of files and directories ====== using more to read files, I found that the file system does not appear to be what I had... for example, rc.conf doesn't exist; which leads me to believe that what I am looking at is some default stuff for setup How can I see all the commands? They scroll by too fast. What's the use of having such help when you can't see the output? This has always been a deterrent for me to try to delve deeper into FBSD... doesn't anyone in FreeBSD-land ever think about the enduser? I, for one, expect things to be intuitive if not logical and I just don't find it here of in the manuals...which, BTW, show up through Google in different forms and configurations. How do I see the contents of the other disks as I seem to be looking at disk3? Is it possible to switch to another disk and see what is there? -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 18:36:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD071065672 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkhmroan@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9CD8FC1E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkhmroan@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1099541and.13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nFJ4S0+KfXHvcyBE0yVGtHydBYq70X168XiYwgcUsKc=; b=m8OHOG740Web4nI6w43piA7oJU/CA0KBpqF9PpVnrM89jGdOUBpt3AwB0RaeeTRnt2 E904jVilIawL9nO3ksezw7bSqpAWuBUOi8cNii6NBXT5EL4bVM9qjx6HTtlkKLMsToCv VXjIOTLiAi2RhYWfaiB7onnG8DWuN1uwkH5hQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=l5gws8AFL0H9ZV0KbvInznX5l2F/bi+AMjz/GjyQuayN9Z4XSemSkGeg95JXJtgly8 KbuIDXKckFkq45XGhgYsZRIattGKOxvJnceQqGiHU8hLc+SH17NB6G30rlcSwQh3CO8j wnBBL2P5n7OBGcmJanSxxl6mtd/moi4r+QvaY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.30.73 with SMTP id t9mr764506ibc.27.1249064156570; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> From: markham roan To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:36:28 -0000 Has anyone used Windows 2008 and active directory with a bridging, NATing firewall between the domain controller and the 2008 machine? We're in a situation where we're trying to join a domain with a 2008 machine, and no matter what we do to the firewall, joining stalls and fails. DC: Windows Server 2003 Server: Windows Server 2008 Firewall: FreeBSD 6.1 plus PF We're doing bidirectional NAT on the clients, so the DC has a real address while the Server has an RFC1918 address. We are explicitly allowing all traffic between the server and the DC, with and later without keeping state. Windows Server 2003 machines behind the firewall join just fine, and Windows 2008 Server machines outside of the firewall join just fine. A packet capture revealed a number of anomalies. Once the server starts trying to join the domain, we get all sorts of TCP transmission errors, retries, duplicate ACKs etc. In some cases, the public side of the firewall will send an ICMP host-unreachable message for a host which is clearly being BINAT. I've tinkered with net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen, but it doesn't seem to help. net.inet.ip.intr_queue_drops isn't increasing at a noticeable rate, anyway. Does anyone have any thoughts and/or advice on where I can go from here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 18:46:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECE0106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A498FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so3617142gxk.19 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:46:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bl4xiPlnJc1p3zW3kKpIYbqQPa3uYoBzhnrKRepIIkQ=; b=bfa7fdyUdnT5NnE7Y7qKBpNaTt3GVa0mtQzeF84Yf7YSKYPICRVRzciHZPdELir54c jZnyGgF+gDWByhq0H78QVE0XKq4laIJM9cmHiX1ILJdsGitY46TRWVArdseTb5F9T9iK ceM+kTqU20ul2MYmiwP1/7plSthbshrF7rPKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=A32RWi9qEOeHA6lKk81DZf83ZfIENGtSdsk48ii0c+N2e4t+Ou9sKZ2nhxgy8eD8rk qemQ0V/HKKQSd8808ErmuW0oE8s6NOs67hC8Mw6nGzrY3fbbLJlnR7yojj7I4/0p7yhF ai+l5fEeDtfUcjV44uddqUcAfqwJ36/S4MOis= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.153.7 with SMTP id a7mr5126471ybe.254.1249066009023; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:46:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907312020.AA230163034@mail.Go2France.com> References: <200907312020.AA230163034@mail.Go2France.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:46:48 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0907311146q378d5625n7247d44511c2667@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: lconrad@go2france.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 and sysinstall weirdness X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:46:52 -0000 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Len Conrad wrote: > Dell PE 1950 > > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 > > > boot from disc01 into sysinstall, do our regular setup, reboot, and df > shows only / and /devfs. f > > stab has /usr and /var missing. > > so we go into sysinstall, slices are correct: > > Disk name: mfid0 FDISK Partition > Editor > DISK Geometry: 17688 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 284157720 sectors > (138748MB) > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 10474317 10474379 mfid0s1 8 freebsd 165 > 10474380 4192965 14667344 mfid0s2 8 freebsd 165 > 14667345 10474380 25141724 mfid0s3 8 freebsd 165 > 25141725 259015995 284157719 mfid0s4 8 freebsd 165 > 284157720 6376 284164095 - 12 unused 0 > > > but labels: > > FreeBSD Disklabel Editor > > Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s1 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) > Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s2 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) > Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s3 Free: 10474380 blocks (5114MB) > Disk: mfid0 Partition name: mfid0s4 Free: 259015995 blocks (123GB) > > Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs > ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- > ufsid/4a72b432c4 5114MB * > mfid0s2b swap 2047MB SWAP > > .. the /usr and /var mount points were "lost". > > fstab: > > cat /etc/fstab > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump > Pass# > /dev/mfid0s2b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a / ufs rw > 1 1 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > we saw the /var and /usr filesystems were really there, so we added to > fstab: > > /dev/mfid0s3 /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mfid0s4 /var ufs rw 2 2 > > and rebooted, all seems ok. > > We went through this drill twice, and got the same results. > > /var/run/dmesg: > > mfid0: on mfi0 > mfid0: 138752MB (284164096 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal > > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s1 is ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. > > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufsid/4a72bbc67db432c4a > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s3 is ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mfid0s4 is ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc60412e6dd removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/4a72bbc6e3898627 removed. > > Anybody know why the sysintall labels and fstab aren't showing up the way > we set them up in sysinstall? > > thanks > Len > Looks like you may getting slices and partitions confused. Generally your partitions are subsets of slices eg: ad0s1a ad0s1b ad0s1c ad0s1d ad0s1f Where as your output is something like this: ad0s1 ad0s2 ad0s3 ad0s4 Unless you have some pressing reason to do otherwise, choose the Auto settings they are sufficient for most purposes. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 18:57:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09064106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CED8FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6VIvsWm059011; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:57:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B94BBA9D; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:57:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:57:54 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090731185754.GB90516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:57:57 -0000 --wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:36:23PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Thanks for replying Roland, > I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of > my time and I am still not happy. > Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. > I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was the last on the > list) and I got the boot cursor (I think) ...=20 Don't do that. Just wait and let the system boot, or choose 1, which amounts to the same. Then choose your country and keyboard settings from the menus you are presented with. Next, you come into the sysinstall main menu. Choose "Fixit", and in the next menu choose "2 CDROM/DVD". Now you enter the standard 'sh'. If you want, type 'tcsh' to start the C shell. I find that more convenient because it uses tab completion for commands and files. You can now use all the commands that are available in the base system. No go back to my previous message and see what if anything is wrong with your disk partitions. > cd devices: > cd0: Device 0x1 > disk devices: > disk0: BIOS drive a: > disk1: BIOS drive C: > disk1s1: Unknown fs: 0x7 (I think this must be ntfs ? but ? ) > disk2: BIOS drive D: > disk3: BIOS drive E: > disk3s1a: FFS > disk3s1b: swap > disk3s1d: FFS > disk3s1e: FFS > disk3s1f: FFS Do you have a dual boot installation with FreeBSD on a second drive? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpzPrIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUd6ACfQagmPSCmXfLWFkgI3nMpV5wK DRUAn1gcliGIDQ7I2rXNnzkG4KzhPBK3 =JzMr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 19:12:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F714106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659378FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNN001VTUOLBBQ0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A734215.6080003@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:12:21 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:22 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Roland Smith wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >>>> sector screwed up? >>>> > > I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed > up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. > > Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things > that could have gone wrong. See below. > > > >>>> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >>>> >>> Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. >>> >>> >> how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? >> > > Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall > on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run > fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. > > If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls > /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. > What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get > something like this: > > /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d > /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e > /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f > /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g > /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli > > If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been > overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 > but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your > data is lost as well. > > Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see > /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: > > bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 > # /dev/ad4s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1024000 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 > b: 16777216 1024016 swap > c: 976768002 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit > d: 4194304 17801232 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > e: 104857600 21995536 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > f: 41943040 126853136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > g: 807971826 168796176 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 > > This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD > filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. > > Try these steps and report back what you find. > > >>>> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >>>> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >>>> >>> Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. >>> >>> >> Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are >> there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't >> all be that stupid.) >> > > It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and > problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be > posting very much. :-) > > As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are > knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes > lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are > self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a > subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system > because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. > > If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. > > > Roland > I get the impression that my disks have all been overwritten; it's rather strange that in the instructions to upgrade it says to not change anything on the Newfs... and that files would not be overwritten... is that at fact? If that is true, then surely it should be possible to recover files in the /usr /var and /tmp directories. If the disks have not been overwritten... I think there was a huge misinformation gap here if this is not so... If we're upgrading a file system, there is no reason to either format or overwrite those directories and/or slices that are not involved. Anyway, I'm waiting to hear if there is any hoope here or do I just go ahead an reinstall everything? -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 19:26:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C34106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9928FC1C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D978C1CC69; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:11:17 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id OKfkCjkGrYWC; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:11:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a88-114-134-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.114.134.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B88C51CC5C; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:11:13 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4CDE5D672E6F40FEAE3138B1AF745B17@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "markham roan" , References: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:11:23 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 Cc: Subject: Re: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:26:40 -0000 > Has anyone used Windows 2008 and active directory with a bridging,=20 > NATing > firewall between the domain controller and the 2008 machine? > We're in a situation where we're trying to join a domain with a 2008 > machine, and no matter what we do to the firewall, joining stalls=20 > and fails. Haven't used the combination myself, but in couple of cases MS=20 developer/beta evaluation staff has been quite helpful when Vista beta=20 got all kind of funnies when trying to connect to internet via PF. So=20 giving MS the information of the problems in traffic might (in case=20 you want to help MS to troubleshoot Win2008...) help some. Another idea could be giving 7.x a shot as it has newer version of PF=20 IIRC. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 19:27:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594BC10656C8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkhmroan@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119558FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkhmroan@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1112333and.13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:27:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GhLdO/8BMkPc9wERQFBRkOUOeFrYyqgLduGPbJRrBxw=; b=BMtyMqys25AbqVgl3bQeDpdSdyibLHrkde9Gof9AF9UNfDhOJEIG9ajPGzfQEfEgyI dQlQh4ZylEHixAQrdDbtXUiwSv7ksLj7w7xosuvGNaCVgD4v7Z1Z+S4bU51JRa2463ja PnC4onIfb+jf1QJbOrSvNn6rtE0kAdALwpQFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=R5WgoAH8e+J247b89ZK1rk90VODkqONSyW4VngzgAz9oqVH4p+DM5SgW92p8E7yyIC Efm4dFH/DqKB3pZ9Nf37kKjggia3niqImOUbS+OfAnUn3CQN3PqDgWyOlCkcQnFkGXjG w1s0PinEkClQEmdgkaIndragNSWHSSortQwwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.37.141 with SMTP id x13mr771319ibd.39.1249068435786; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:27:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CDE5D672E6F40FEAE3138B1AF745B17@rivendell> References: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> <4CDE5D672E6F40FEAE3138B1AF745B17@rivendell> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: <548f3c460907311227i555aa7der39f1f8af435a6b74@mail.gmail.com> From: markham roan To: Reko Turja Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:27:17 -0000 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Reko Turja wrote: > Has anyone used Windows 2008 and active directory with a bridging, NATing >> firewall between the domain controller and the 2008 machine? >> We're in a situation where we're trying to join a domain with a 2008 >> machine, and no matter what we do to the firewall, joining stalls and >> fails. >> > > Haven't used the combination myself, but in couple of cases MS > developer/beta evaluation staff has been quite helpful when Vista beta got > all kind of funnies when trying to connect to internet via PF. So giving MS > the information of the problems in traffic might (in case you want to help > MS to troubleshoot Win2008...) help some. Do you happen to have contact information for this team? Another idea could be giving 7.x a shot as it has newer version of PF IIRC. > That's on the list of things to try, but upgrading will probably be painful, so I'm hoping to find something else first. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 19:31:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AD3106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathen-4@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7068FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nathen-4@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MWxQN-0002Pw-HH for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:05:51 +0100 Received: from [77.102.198.181] (helo=[127.0.0.1]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MWxQJ-0000Do-JT for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:05:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4A73408B.1030306@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:05:47 +0100 From: Nathen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Document iso compression suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:31:34 -0000 Hi, I'm not sure if this is the correct email address to use for this suggestion but anyway, I thought you would like to know I managed to compress the iso '7.2-RELEASE-amd64-docs.iso' at 294MB down to just 21.2MB by using 7-zip's ultra compression method - this could help you to conserve bandwidth if you offered a compressed archive for document CD isos. Hope this helps :) Thanks for your time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 19:42:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78257106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5088FC17 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNN006SGW37YB50@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A734933.5040602@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:42:43 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> <20090731185754.GB90516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090731185754.GB90516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:42:44 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:36:23PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Thanks for replying Roland, >> I've been struggling with upgrading 7.0 to 7.2... it has taken a lot of >> my time and I am still not happy. >> > > >> Anyway... back to the messed up 7.1 installation. >> I ran livefs 7.1 and chose option 6 (I think; it was the last on the >> list) and I got the boot cursor (I think) ... >> > > Don't do that. Just wait and let the system boot, or choose 1, which > amounts to the same. Then choose your country and keyboard settings from > the menus you are presented with. > > Next, you come into the sysinstall main menu. Choose "Fixit", and in the > next menu choose "2 CDROM/DVD". Now you enter the standard 'sh'. If you > want, type 'tcsh' to start the C shell. I find that more convenient > because it uses tab completion for commands and files. You can now use > all the commands that are available in the base system. > > No go back to my previous message and see what if anything is wrong with > your disk partitions. > > >> cd devices: >> cd0: Device 0x1 >> disk devices: >> disk0: BIOS drive a: >> disk1: BIOS drive C: >> disk1s1: Unknown fs: 0x7 (I think this must be ntfs ? but ? ) >> disk2: BIOS drive D: >> disk3: BIOS drive E: >> disk3s1a: FFS >> disk3s1b: swap >> disk3s1d: FFS >> disk3s1e: FFS >> disk3s1f: FFS >> > > Do you have a dual boot installation with FreeBSD on a second drive? > > Roland > Basically, the news is not good. The directories & files are not what I had to begin with. ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Not a dual boot installation - pure FreeBSD. I was using this as a server with apache/mysql/samba/cups + a number of programs like Netbeans, Openoffice, Gimp, Inkscape. etc. etc. But I suppose I could move the disks to another machine, or maybe better, add a Windows disk to this box... -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 19:51:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CA6106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB8B8FC0A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6VJpLJY003351; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:51:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A33A3BA9D; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:51:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:51:21 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090731195121.GA92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A734215.6080003@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A734215.6080003@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:51:24 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:12:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > =20 > >> Roland Smith wrote: > >> =20 > >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >>>> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot > >>>> sector screwed up? > >>>> =20 > > > > I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed > > up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. > > > > Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things > > that could have gone wrong. See below. > > > > > > =20 > >>>> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? =20 > >>>> =20 > >>> Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? > >> =20 > > > > Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall > > on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run > > fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. > > > > If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls > > /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. > > What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get > > something like this: > > > > /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d > > /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e > > /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f > > /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g > > /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli > > > > If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been > > overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 > > but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your > > data is lost as well. > > > > Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see > > /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: > > > > bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 > > # /dev/ad4s1: > > 8 partitions: > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > > a: 1024000 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 64008=20 > > b: 16777216 1024016 swap =20 > > c: 976768002 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, = don't edit > > d: 4194304 17801232 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528=20 > > e: 104857600 21995536 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528=20 > > f: 41943040 126853136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528=20 > > g: 807971826 168796176 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 > > > > This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD > > filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. > > > > Try these steps and report back what you find. > > > > =20 > >>>> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally > >>>> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. > >>>> =20 > >>> Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are > >> there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't > >> all be that stupid.) > >> =20 > > > > It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and > > problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be > > posting very much. :-)=20 > > > > As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are > > knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes > > lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are > > self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a > > subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system > > because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. > > > > If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. > > > I get the impression that my disks have all been overwritten; it's Don't have impressions. Get the data. Boot from a livefs CD and start a shell as explained in in some of my previous messages. Then use the commands listed above to check your filesystems. *And report back wat you found*. > rather strange that in the instructions to upgrade it says to not change > anything on the Newfs... and that files would not be overwritten... is > that at fact? What instructions are you referring to? Neither the handbook section [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-freebsdupdate.html] nor the manual page for freebsd-update mention newfs at all! Nor should the= y. > If that is true, then surely it should be possible to recover files in > the /usr /var and /tmp directories. If the disks have not been > overwritten... I think there was a huge misinformation gap here if this > is not so... For an upgrade, the filesystems are not overwritten. Only a new install creates new filesystems. Please boot from a livefs CD and check the filesystems on the harddisk as explained before and report the results. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 20:06:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8B3106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C134F8FC08 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6VK66IM011495; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:06:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 04EBFBA9D; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:06:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:06:05 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090731200605.GB92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> <20090731185754.GB90516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A734933.5040602@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A734933.5040602@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:06:08 -0000 --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Basically, the news is not good. > The directories & files are not what I had to begin with. > ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? What strikes me as strange is that your data from the boot prompt suggest that your FreeBSD install is on ad3 instead of on ad0. You haven't messed with the cabling from the disks, or changed BIOS settings regarding the boot sequence, have you? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpzTq0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVuDQCeKgbryVpDB4anRSYUYeiULMor axAAn2WL/fsg51Tmb1WLsrSPYu1gTZ0x =1sdX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 20:10:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BD91065678 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3D38FC1B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNN006PSXDRMNB0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A734FBF.6040308@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:10:39 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A734215.6080003@videotron.ca> <20090731195121.GA92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090731195121.GA92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:10:41 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:12:21PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Roland Smith wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 03:20:55PM -0400, PJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Roland Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:40:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What can be done to access a file system that seems to have the boot >>>>>> sector screwed up? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> I forgot to mention that your boot sector is fine. If it were screwed >>> up, you wouldn't get to the boot prompt. >>> >>> Since the boot code cannot locate your kernel, there are several things >>> that could have gone wrong. See below. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> The /usr files should be ok but how to access? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Use fsck_ffs to try and repair the filesystem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> how can I use it if I can't boot or access the file system? >>>> >>>> >>> Use a livefs cd or use the Fixit option in the main menu of sysinstall >>> on an install disk. That should get you a shell where you can run >>> fsck_ffs on your disk partitions. >>> >>> If you have booted from CD, list the disk devices with e.g. 'ls >>> /dev/ad*'. If you have SCSI drives, use 'da' instead of 'ad'. >>> What does that command list? On my machine, I'll get >>> something like this: >>> >>> /dev/ad4 /dev/ad4s1d /dev/ad6 /dev/ad6s1d >>> /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad4s1e /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad6s1e >>> /dev/ad4s1a /dev/ad4s1f /dev/ad6s1a /dev/ad6s1f >>> /dev/ad4s1b /dev/ad4s1g /dev/ad6s1b /dev/ad6s1g >>> /dev/ad4s1c /dev/ad4s1g.eli /dev/ad6s1c /dev/ad6s1g.eli >>> >>> If you only see e.g. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6, your slice table has been >>> overwritten (with fdisk) and your data is lost. If you see /dev/ad4s1 >>> but not /dev/ad4s1a-g, the BSD partitions have been removed and your >>> data is lost as well. >>> >>> Since there is only one slice on both ad4 and ad6 (otherwise you'd see >>> /dev/ad4s2x) The next step is to examine the disk labels: >>> >>> bsdlabel /dev/ad4s1 >>> # /dev/ad4s1: >>> 8 partitions: >>> # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] >>> a: 1024000 16 4.2BSD 2048 16384 64008 >>> b: 16777216 1024016 swap >>> c: 976768002 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit >>> d: 4194304 17801232 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 >>> e: 104857600 21995536 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 >>> f: 41943040 126853136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 >>> g: 807971826 168796176 4.2BSD 2048 16384 0 >>> >>> This tells us that the a, d, e, f and g partition are carrying a BSD >>> filesystem, and should be checked with fsck_ffs. >>> >>> Try these steps and report back what you find. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> I don't have a problem with irrecoverable files, I would just finally >>>>>> understand how things work and what can be done on FBSD. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Make regular backups. Especially before big upgrades. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Maybe the real problem is that the manual is too screwed up (why are >>>> there so many problems being brought up on the mailing lists? we can't >>>> all be that stupid.) >>>> >>>> >>> It is a mailing list for questions. Ipso facto you'll see questions and >>> problems on this list. People who are not having problems will not be >>> posting very much. :-) >>> >>> As to the handbook, this is by necessity written by people who are >>> knowledgeable on the subject they write on. Unfortunately this sometimes >>> lead to really basic steps/assumptions being skipped because they are >>> self-evident for the writer. If you gain enough knowledge about a >>> subject it becomes really hard to write for people new to the system >>> because you've internalized a lot of stuff by then. >>> >>> If you have specific questions about parts of the handbook, ask. >>> >>> >> I get the impression that my disks have all been overwritten; it's >> > > Don't have impressions. Get the data. Boot from a livefs CD and start a > shell as explained in in some of my previous messages. Then use the commands > listed above to check your filesystems. *And report back wat you found*. > > >> rather strange that in the instructions to upgrade it says to not change >> anything on the Newfs... and that files would not be overwritten... is >> that at fact? >> > > What instructions are you referring to? Neither the handbook section > [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-freebsdupdate.html] > nor the manual page for freebsd-update mention newfs at all! Nor should they. > > Well, it sounds like we should be ok, but the instructions I am speaking of are those on the installation disks ... when one selects the update to a newer version and then as asked to set the slice names /; swap; /tmp; and /var. If I have made an error in this, then I can only put the full blame on whoever created the installation system... there should be the most obvious checks & balances about such an installation/upgrade as - warnings about what the installation is going to do, and are you sure this is what you want to do; and warnings that any existing files will be overwritten... I have always cringed a bit when installing as there were never any decent confirmations as to what was happening... even Microsoft is pretty good with warning. So, as I mentioned, I cannot access any disks as "Permission denied" This seems to be a dead end. :-( >> If that is true, then surely it should be possible to recover files in >> the /usr /var and /tmp directories. If the disks have not been >> overwritten... I think there was a huge misinformation gap here if this >> is not so... >> > > For an upgrade, the filesystems are not overwritten. Only a new install > creates new filesystems. > > Please boot from a livefs CD and check the filesystems on the harddisk > as explained before and report the results. > > Roland > -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 20:15:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729DF106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306568FC18 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDAD1DA67; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6VKFWqc001491; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:15:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:15:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> Message-Id: <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:15:40 -0000 On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:22 +0200, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:47:11 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > versions, I saw it getting... hmmm... how do I tell best? It's > > getting more slower in overall handling, and it often stops > > working completely (several seconds) > > I have not noticed such behaviour yet. Nobody else seems to have. This is what I wrote regarding this very strange topic: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/194123.html I just hope that it goes away with an update of the system I'm planning to do soon. :-) > > problem with Firefox. Furthermore, there's lots of stuff now > > bundled with the Opera web browser that I (personally) found > > no use for, such as a mail client, IRC client, torrent client, > > and some other stuff that could easily be called "bloatware". > > I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. Only for newer versions. I found the older versions a bit easier to configure, especially the Options dialog was better organized. But as I mentioned "bloat" (NB the quotes), it's just that there's much more functionality in Opera, making it run slower (on the same system), but finally, it runs *much* faster than Firefox, I think. > And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to > download extra extensions in Firefox. Exactly. I know, for example, that there are mouse gestures in Firefox, too. But they are not built-in. My main argument for Opera is the excellent combination of mouse and KEYBOARD support. I'm using the english version because the shortcuts and keystrokes are more intuitive than in the german version. Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) > For me, Opera works much better on older hardware than Firefox. That's true. Opera on 300 MHz P2 is faster than Firefox 3 on 2 GHz P4 here. > Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) Of course. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 20:16:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260B51065689 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0D78FC1A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:16:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1151CC73; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:16:26 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id XMAeH3+gD95Q; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:16:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a88-114-134-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.114.134.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1257A1CC76; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:16:25 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: "markham roan" References: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com><4CDE5D672E6F40FEAE3138B1AF745B17@rivendell> <548f3c460907311227i555aa7der39f1f8af435a6b74@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <548f3c460907311227i555aa7der39f1f8af435a6b74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:16:35 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:16:32 -0000 > Do you happen to have contact information for this team? Sadly no, I just reported the perceived bug via Vista beta bug=20 reporting - can't remember if that was from the OS itself or from the=20 web, and got pretty fast reply and tech savvy responder from there. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 20:23:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7A11065670 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745108FC1E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNN00B2ZXYSR980@VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A7352B5.7040905@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:23:17 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> <20090731185754.GB90516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A734933.5040602@videotron.ca> <20090731200605.GB92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090731200605.GB92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:23:17 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Basically, the news is not good. >> The directories & files are not what I had to begin with. >> ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. >> > > Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something like that. > What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with > incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? > > What strikes me as strange is that your data from the boot prompt > suggest that your FreeBSD install is on ad3 instead of on ad0. You > haven't messed with the cabling from the disks, or changed BIOS settings > regarding the boot sequence, have you? > > Roland > No cabling changes... but I did try different boot options... My setup is a raid1 mirror setup on two 75gb sata disks and another 80gb sata disk as well as another 40gb disk(who know what's on it) could be WindowsXP, but I haven't used it. I could try running PartitionMagic to see what's on there; but there's no guarantee it'll show anything... will try now. Ok, PM shows disk1 as ntfs; Disk2 is FreeBSD/386 76,316.6mb 0.0 unused active Primary Strange that it shows as full... wasnt when it was working. Weird if not strange... whereis disk 3 ? I may have to open the box... -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 20:44:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACD3106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6128FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNN00LFHYY11J20@VL-MO-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A7357A9.4050505@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:44:25 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <20090730190458.GA36265@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A71F297.1080903@videotron.ca> <20090730220618.GA40281@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A7339A7.4010303@videotron.ca> <20090731185754.GB90516@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A734933.5040602@videotron.ca> <20090731200605.GB92292@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A7352B5.7040905@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: <4A7352B5.7040905@videotron.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:44:26 -0000 PJ wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ wrote: >> >>> Basically, the news is not good. >>> The directories & files are not what I had to begin with. >>> ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: Permission denied. >>> >> Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come across something >> like that. >> What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe /dev is mounted with >> incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, I presume? Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 21:03:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273EF106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-301.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-301.bluehost.com [67.222.53.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC3718FC15 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 5984 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 21:03:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 21:03:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UXSyJyavKWLh+r26dF94mXpoFqdrQ+Og2JSCGfRS5yIOZtdqY/K84u2l0cOyN5FVbf+vxkKFBbqAfOzIXY/ha3v5Fj05efJ5yp98GEfIooWXCtU7GOIeaGo6jJmrQALy; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWzGV-0006VP-8K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:03:47 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:03:48 -0000 --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:22 +0200, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrot= e: > >=20 > > I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. >=20 > Only for newer versions. I found the older versions a bit easier > to configure, especially the Options dialog was better organized. > But as I mentioned "bloat" (NB the quotes), it's just that there's > much more functionality in Opera, making it run slower (on the same > system), but finally, it runs *much* faster than Firefox, I think. I don't find that it runs much faster than Firefox. In fact, in recent versions, it runs slower sometimes -- though still marginally faster more often than not. >=20 > > And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to > > download extra extensions in Firefox. >=20 > Exactly. I know, for example, that there are mouse gestures in Firefox, > too. But they are not built-in. My main argument for Opera is the > excellent combination of mouse and KEYBOARD support. I'm using the > english version because the shortcuts and keystrokes are more > intuitive than in the german version. I have the opposite experience: Opera lacks keyboard shortcuts for a lot of what I do in Firefox. A nice touch shared by Firefox and Chrome, but not by anything else I've used (including Opera, IE, Midori, et cetera) is the set of keyboard shortcuts for URL construction. For instance, if you enter: freebsd =2E . . then press +, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.com =2E . . or press +, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.net =2E . . or press ++, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.org >=20 > Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) That's easy. Just press + and it'll close Firefox immediately. >=20 > > Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) >=20 > Of course. :-) =2E . . just as soon as it gets ported to FreeBSD. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth markinct @techrepublic.com: "Don't take anything you do on-line lightly. Caveat Clicker..." --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpzWoQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKViKACfUqCr/zm2UhMSrIKwmY/GedKJ AFAAoJsym7ZlkaG+72ElgPZCPGI9gRiq =6Ewm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 21:05:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B681065673 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-26.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-26.bluehost.com [69.89.17.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FD188FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 13271 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 21:05:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 21:05:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mkCwrlZivwyE0Kb6MNOBPVCV81EqRYx0dbT1K+sXlixNRPwONZlJr5CEcYw972Od+LUWwLSalvstMzj4JHQUtDSnmeOYL65/j8fnla8ZDo4+zFDli74XFV8llwIUy5pA; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWzHt-00006f-4V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:05:13 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:58:02 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:58:02 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090731205802.GC44613@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:05:14 -0000 --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:10:49AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: >=20 > Perfect, yes! Midori is precisely what I need! Many thanks. I use Midori as a backup browser sometimes, but be aware that it's pretty buggy, and interface design could use a little help. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth H. L. Mencken: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpzWtoACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXNOwCdEqO1/Fc8FRgxebwF4S9T5DVu Qa0AoNvyFC7TwusHOhQK4BnOgEhyGiFq =EB+C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 21:10:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CC8106566B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05F88FC13 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C1425439; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:10:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6VLA7k1002304; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:10:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:10:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:10:15 -0000 On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) > > That's easy. Just press + and it'll close Firefox immediately. Negative for firefox-2.0.0.12,1 (on my desktop system) - no Ctrl+Q. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 00:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2D9106566C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f174.google.com (mail-pz0-f174.google.com [209.85.222.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8BF8FC13 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4so1671656pzk.7 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rXJn8eo+3+PeO59Z+By+fKm13fGjMlYrx5r5YduncCo=; b=i0pyEao/YWV8OV8LUIi3I+JZ0gYLCqXUtu0fPc1k9pTltAa6TKjjagti/aw0qi9iKg i6Em/xM3M9aI0TdSJpsWO5I2/3kra7DIYPNrg+GIjysruAJ9Dr0ZoUZ/bTyLhcVKQsAS f9/NxqvgXPRqWiPFnHb4Uy4Z4V2ETyAKZYWFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LmCJ38F1opQw1J3EddCcHQrjDtNjSs+Zw3iIETrcyPiNi18pgGvhagaaXzHFqhz/Fr SINyN9bWm1AmwQQLjq6iHexPBjrjnyAbiIed/sYbFkTQbKGZs5lT+CsWaqNPWqr/LjMa k5p6bq3Sy7XkaO5A6UpUfkY2uocUgkiR2QrHE= Received: by 10.114.234.4 with SMTP id g4mr3202957wah.70.1249085477834; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([122.162.53.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n9sm5977654wag.58.2009.07.31.17.11.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A738821.2060304@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:41:13 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith Subject: AP#1 on Phy#1 : The reason on my system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:11:18 -0000 Hi, A long time back, I had reported getting AP#1 on Phy#1 error messages and boot failure on my amd64 system. After many tests, I am convinced the problem occurs only if a USB mouse is plugged in at boot-time. A few days back, I finally got a USB-to-PS2 converter and hooked my mouse into a PS2 port, with USB mouse support disabled in the BIOS. I've never had this problem since then. So it's pretty certain that the USB mouse was the source of the boot-failures. Since Windows never had any boot problems with the USB mouse, I think this might be an issue for the FreeBSD kernel developers. If this helps anyone or clears any doubts, I can only be glad. (NB : I also have a report from a friend of mine using amd64 with debian-5.02 that debian has pretty much the same problem. He has taken my advice and is now hooking the mouse into the PS/2 port with good results). Thank you& -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 00:23:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D423106566C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gbell72@rogers.com) Received: from web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 344628FC19 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gbell72@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 86801 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2009 23:56:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1249084618; bh=S5/IquP+kgOp6oP76gtbWVgEhN/Z1UWtsRWQEgsvtPw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QfpN1voyB4BT8fgNrrWSet+rEJEq8FWSi3n97f+9N1/ICC9UTdu0+mQhtc/2JwkFNzmhsWydukMkT2WMsJa8zLuRAxMKfcpyyX36/Xi0rrjUsuV2+6F9c5drg925ueU4Qoxe/NlvRiUqSuLE7OnLWquFwuXjpPwuIhrcElGPt5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RFvDYXsCCsgOScPvJR74fz48W6JAkG7DqYmZArwfYpzRytp2W3wkmpaw8nDuNMxFCyoVeJQQM66l+j8HteC1sw2o3nQS9mU/z14yFcqtViUlLBLxIvpHezq8rHi6IImFoutxaAClL7Tx8x7BOvYoBxRdBznHkc45W23wvP2rk4E=; Message-ID: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: reMja9cVM1keY16q6PYV3rp8NipvusZ2hTEkcb.Hn0R8ezGEJCULmiRxHJe.Qih9OqzsKLpN9QU2NsI80Ip9ujLBUTOFwAfV2PZHK8U2JFW8K6ozx9ytxf_ffDOu0J1XeJ_f3SRyD6HROc18b0PfuugCHH8WXmaC8OtKzVhl4v_5yBy0cx14NMIjjP4C3Hc2PeARPGZSQcN7EZ3m8pi7dMaIsrVl9.ADwSOTJChiFwe4apdwBRVmNbp2mOsaS1ijW0O625c8XnvvMqsxG6CEeVRF_UmJiRZku.DylCJRc2bpAqDxI49WCxRvAIai.C6C Received: from [99.233.37.239] by web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:56:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Gardner Bell To: Roland Smith , PJ In-Reply-To: <4A7357A9.4050505@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:23:40 -0000 Gardner Bell --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ wrote: > From: PJ > Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system > To: "Roland Smith" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM > PJ wrote: > > Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ > wrote: > >> > >>> Basically, the news is not good. > >>> The directories & files are not what I had > to begin with. > >>> ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: > Permission denied. > >>> > >> Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come > across something > >> like that. > >> What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe > /dev is mounted with > >> incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, > I presume? > Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? > On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... > ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 > ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs > ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes > ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes > The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 00:55:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EBB106564A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-303.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-303.bluehost.com [67.222.53.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B0D08FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 15666 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 00:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 00:55:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=NKATBaUIwZn9ySDsudsdZfJQtFn778Dzs1HbXbG1QDdl/RkE2nDE6IK9vqc9vCCyLgoabrxlGojm326w6qCL7mRm/itptHwSE7qUXpHV98ti9YECNZmOz7l316cor3pV; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MX2sv-0000kB-7x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:55:41 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:48:30 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:48:30 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090801004830.GA45299@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:55:42 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:10:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600, Chad Perrin wro= te: > >=20 > > That's easy. Just press + and it'll close Firefox immediately. >=20 > Negative for firefox-2.0.0.12,1 (on my desktop system) - no Ctrl+Q. :-) I don't remember that capability lacking in Firefox 2, but it has been a little while since I've used it, so I don't really know for sure. You should be able to close it at least by pressing + once per open tab. That's a keyboard shortcut that closes the current tab, and if you do that when there's only one tab open, that should close the browser (but only if you have it configured to close the browser when closing the last tab). I think the relevant configuration option in the about:config window is: browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab I'm pretty sure I was able to close Firefox with a keyboard shortcut back when I used Firefox 2, but I don't remember how. I guess you're on your own, unless someone else here uses Firefox 2 and can help you out. Does + work for you? That's probably dependent on your choice of window manager. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpzkN4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWiwACdHRWtNvNnWOzSX5bggz4IlVwN PF4AoNQwXutsElm5ZY0xr4XNvOKI4T7q =yZ7u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 07:50:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816111065672 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 07:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC9D8FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 07:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n717opPo048965 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n717opAE048964; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02355; Sat, 1 Aug 09 00:43:06 PDT Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:39:58 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: gbell72@rogers.com Message-Id: <4a73f14e.Lx2GUnkKP78mT+Gf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:50:52 -0000 Gardner Bell wrote: > > The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) > Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? Methinks it be an oblique reference to a line from Shakespeare's play about the Dane with no insult intended, then or now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 08:04:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9761065672 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enidv11@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3B58FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enidv11@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so1888097ewy.43 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L5vY1+B/SkW1IWki9itY7QKbHyaegoMcWQEk+Af1O4g=; b=Cw/rMxPKQcnc1xz0Ql339j1swUQLSXQgydF7KHeEVEcZmO4/9GEzRUjyCsB+AK4NPV aD+n2aqW3r6TjozgM3yDjcPFDby5lGx6FQGOWeK6zRKcefVJ0IGkkN7GtTGoQi315E4C oRyWWhsvu0DqMedgFLjhJZboKiV2XXQ1eG63M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PpbswZeR0/IZDz/BVt9bBrtE/CXTg7U5woy4R74LOko71Pu35NsLul6ka60oNiaW04 WQOKr6H/rhFBeZmuCTAr57wTCJOCK3ebdQBxvs6qOWVwRCmeeWEDoQyATh54Gl2CWVQX toOeVAsQ1mb1rkLvDfRc+NCJIwkTA2vo1GcxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.141 with SMTP id l13mr672616wef.67.1249113897172; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:04:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090731173631.GA31081@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <77b5ce830907310939k7583e625na9786c6efd6d0de8@mail.gmail.com> <20090731173631.GA31081@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:04:57 +0200 Message-ID: <77b5ce830908010104v6e6fa934h1f3d19ed02695631@mail.gmail.com> From: enid vx To: Jason Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not recognizing raid controller Adaptec AIC7901 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:04:59 -0000 Thanks for your reply, I've searched through Adaptec site for drivers but are offered only Linux (Red Hat , Suse, Novell Netware), Windows, SCO Unix, SCO UnixWare and Sun Solaris. Also is available Linux driver source code. I don't know if they offer FreeBSD driver, maybe I should ask them. So, if I find the drivers what is the procedure to compile them and load them to the kernel? Rgds. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Jason wrote: > You may want to try using the Adaptec drivers from Adaptec, and not the > native freebsd drivers. > > Edit /boot/loader.conf, and that may be it. > > I've found great success with them. > > -jgh > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:39:56PM +0200, enid vx thus spake: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm having some problems installing FreeBSD 6.3 on my machine equipped >> with >> : >> >> Single channel Adaptec? AIC-7901 controller for Ultra320 SCSI >> Host RAID 0, 1, 10 support >> >> I have 4 disks which are configured in 2 Raid1, >> >> the problem is when I try to install FreeBSd from the installer cd, it >> shows >> only the separated disks. >> >> I've added also ahd_load="YES" into /boot/loader.conf on the installation >> cd, >> also on the boot prompt >> load ahd >> load ahd.ko >> and then boot >> >> but again with no success . >> It were recognized only the 4 disks as separated. >> >> How can I make it recognize the raid ? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 13:21:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59BD106564A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE748FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNP004VM8LP3LC1@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A74416B.70309@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:21:47 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Gardner Bell References: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:21:49 -0000 Gardner Bell wrote: > Gardner Bell > > > --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ wrote: > > >> From: PJ >> Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system >> To: "Roland Smith" >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM >> PJ wrote: >> >>> Roland Smith wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>> Basically, the news is not good. >>>>> The directories & files are not what I had >>>>> >> to begin with. >> >>>>> ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: >>>>> >> Permission denied. >> >>>> Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come >>>> >> across something >> >>>> like that. >>>> What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe >>>> >> /dev is mounted with >> >>>> incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, >>>> >> I presume? >> Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? >> On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... >> ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 >> ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs >> ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes >> ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes >> The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) >> > > Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? > Read Shakespeare ! (Or look up the phrase "Something is rotten in Denmark" on Google. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 13:24:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC9B1065670 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BC48FC17 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KNP005QS8PE1WR0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A7441F0.20904@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:24:00 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4a73f14e.Lx2GUnkKP78mT+Gf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-reply-to: <4a73f14e.Lx2GUnkKP78mT+Gf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Cc: gbell72@rogers.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:24:00 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Gardner Bell wrote: > >>> The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) >>> >> Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? >> > > Methinks it be an oblique reference to > a line from Shakespeare's play about the Dane > with no insult intended, then or now. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Methinks I've found a literary genius amid this swamp of digital mechanics. ;-) -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 09:15:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4349E1065672 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spambox@haruhiism.net) Received: from fujibayashi.jp (karas.fujibayashi.jp [77.221.159.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCA08FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spambox@haruhiism.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [91.122.47.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fujibayashi.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 419D478FB8; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:56:01 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4A72B1A7.3090806@haruhiism.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:56:07 +0400 From: Kamigishi Rei User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <4A7271DE.7070702@p6m7g8.com> <6201873e0907302246r10033969p1651104b6e0598cf@mail.gmail.com> <20090731083857.GA58821@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090731083857.GA58821@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:55:03 +0000 Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , Adam Vande More , questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror / crash dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:15:21 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> 4) I have the following in my 7-stable kernel >>> The long and the short of it is I don't get any dumps. >>> I read somewhere that you can't dump onto a gmirror device. >>> >> That is incorrect, but I don't know the cause of your problem. I run >> nothing but gmirror and dumps happen here. >> > I was also told that > "you won't get a valid dump if your dumpdev > is on a GEOM_MIRROR device" > On 7.x, you have a 'legal' way to run gmirror -v prefer before savecore is run. In -current, the corresponding rc file (alas, I forgot its name) is removed. I tried adding "gmirror -v prefer /dev/mirror0" to savecore rc.d file, but to no such luck. The problem here is the order of startup for the drives inside the mirror; the first drive in the array that started during the boot when the panic occurred has to be the preferred device during savecore - and when this condition is met, you will get a valid dump. i.e. let's assume that the system boots like GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada0 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada0 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/mirror0 launched. This makes us think that ada0 is the first drive to launch. Therefore, it's the drive where the dump will be saved during a panic. So we add gmirror configure -v prefer /dev/mirror/mirror0 /dev/ada0 (correct my syntax if I'm wrong here; tried it a month ago) to /etc/rc.d/savecore right before the savecore call. We do stuff, configure, build kernels, rebuild 'em, etc, reboot, and the system comes up GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada1 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada0 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ada0 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/mirror0 launched. without us noticing. And that's it; if it panics now, savecore won't save the crash dump because ada0 doesn't have it. -- Kamigishi Rei KREI-RIPE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 10:10:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE74106564A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7527E8FC14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B46A1E518; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:10:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n6VAAa7n001543; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:10:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:10:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Freminlins Message-Id: <20090731121036.c8226554.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:55:49 +0000 Cc: More , PJ , Andrew Gould , Adam, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:10:44 -0000 I may add: On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:50:07 +0100, Freminlins wrote: > I have used FreeBSD on the desktop for about 6 years (but not yet running > 7.2). It has mostly been a pleasure. I'd like to say that I'm using FreeBSD on the desktop exclusively since version 4.0 and I've always been quite happy with it. No problems at all - since the big crash. When I was "forced" to use FreeBSD 7, I was a bit disappointed, I can honestly say this. But that has NEVER been a problem with the FreeBSD OS, but always with additional packages, so I won't blame the FreeBSD developers who deliver a faster system with every release - just to see that the installed packages (like X, browsers, OpenOffice etc.) just run slower and slower with each new version, and that's sad. > I didn't like it when X was changed to > individual packages, as it now takes considerably longer to install. And the > output from pkg_info takes correspondingly longer to search through. It also > installs two scripting languages (Perl and Python). I haven't had a problem > configuring X for years. Especially because I'm running a quite old system, I am not interested in (or depending on) the new magical autodetection and autoconfiguration stuff - because it simply doesn't work for my hardware. I can't even set my screen size to 1400x1050 as I could in "old" XFree86, so I have to use xrandr. I always liked FreeBSD and its additional software for NOT having to mess around with in such a way. But maybe I'm just old-fashioned. :-) > If something has changed which then causes problems to end users, then that > is not good. And it's no good telling people "use PCBSD" or something else. PC-BSD has its own set of problems. Different ones, I agree, but they do exist. Especially the bad german internationalisation of KDE comes into mind. And you have to use quite up-to-date hardware. > That's not what we want. We want to use FreeBSD on the desktop. Exactly. > Don't try and put people off using FreeBSD. It would be much better to help > them resolves the problems they are having. I agree with this, and it's the purpose of this helpful and polite mailing list. But it requires that users who seek help do this in a certain way. Things like "OS bashing" do not help. But I can understand the wish to express feelings of disappointment. I just question if this mailing list is the place to do so. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 15:07:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E51065673 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f190.google.com (mail-yw0-f190.google.com [209.85.211.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338E98FC13 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by ywh28 with SMTP id 28so3164381ywh.27 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=uh5AjJ+C/AK2AD9tMG5+qHnore7a8WvYcloTJz9VkZI=; b=xShTGK4TMke4GRe/L5BNtHOm8tlQ5uCuTx/tLioU2iurTSE9kG0bi//9hHA6y+o7kw PTLxR89vm1DfcCH/0oaGnJlOcdpGeSuf87QC3f2WwLmxNMupVEYlao918QY9fGzORHwP Du9V3Ov/aVQPRzpb4bQGrLZTYqrWR0EDaPjhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=gQdFzcvPD2+evoiu5gSGvUg8qGtEYcOk8AZfxPTFmnN/bCXLno/Fim2MxHJJoo1ccF Jy6XYW8kQF2+rHJlaeFlrHk3q4t5ThwDBrBYO4+h3oSxI8ksyyl/rw057hTHoj+4SkSE wkB/A25vo5L5oVsZUS046NVEWba4BHp2XSbkM= Received: by 10.150.53.9 with SMTP id b9mr6895007yba.57.1249139231632; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.dhcp.drexel.edu (n2-56-152.dhcp.drexel.edu [144.118.56.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm10860ywh.3.2009.08.01.08.07.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:07:04 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: michael green Message-ID: <20090801150704.GA5350@phoenix.dhcp.drexel.edu> References: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Difficulty in installing ncurses. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:07:12 -0000 michael green wrote: > 7.2-RELEASE #0. Generic kernel. Full installation from DVD. > > > I'm trying to install ncurses because I want to run FoxPro Unix, which expects a terminfo database. > Perhaps terminfo(5) can help? -- Glen Barber - 215.839.8649 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 18:43:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34A4106566C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CED8FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so2068313ewy.43 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tv2oc5wgoz709D06BjmdK55+J8E6iD1cbtnquOo0xsQ=; b=hfSKjn3N/3RqniazToVAao4/DM0YpAvnbWHjkAsXHaAfI0DTuJ3xeoBgZ7sxB8m5pG joi660gWtysbMD+8PZrl/2V1yb3VnFfJote0jZz7zTbEp1N/kHk4cbfzhjS+Q22da11j gVPdL0NsBHghLNy0sm/tDB5wqhfcV2R6xBX6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O3KDcgALRaK+uOB7zSkfU24SX+BusqHXeyUs/vQcVp0Oh0q6zY0kfGXXDJ7RPNBrP7 p5am1nsB4ML+XmuIic8yQQ67OvPjU4F6rSlzrgO4Q6OYZwrqYuR9Ylk3+a98m1TSTwsy 3X+BlnzGkhIxqqJs+ZOvtkjX7zAKHr68o3KFs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.193 with SMTP id w43mr806283wee.17.1249152199478; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> References: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:43:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Wolfgang Riegler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:43:21 -0000 Midori seems to have problems displaying Gmail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 18:56:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2257F106566B for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grimjow.espada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f196.google.com (mail-px0-f196.google.com [209.85.216.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3548FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grimjow.espada@gmail.com) Received: by pxi34 with SMTP id 34so4450426pxi.3 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nQALWXBY9DRFjvg8ZhwnFIB8RhBzS8yybZa1S79s6U0=; b=AgK4wZyth6TbO9wnkj+wdl9GVkm/JLgDCshlWUrDL9oscVFCQJHiUFNJXrg7Yq8tex /7wP4qI3lYpGsz2WTuRggRPgdc2/n3TEAKHbEGVfxvsuvwKTo0XpOWuOJ6Iit8Yef2cS wc0pdUCOSRh+T1Niw8JkfHzruvhZkQ/UFmKOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UZJqZ8sV8QuC6KZwE3wkeQPGVJK3lvvrtAR4/EGaxu0+sG8S9NU9vIDn3eZKs6jh7I DSfGl162OxHbGiMyeBO7UbKOpdstPve25beQosoEYoAu2PL39jyCKYSTxLtkxqzGobhF ZRPa6qjXw8uqIF8qAQYdnKe0Q1xCWUSI2nXHA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.77.3 with SMTP id z3mr4808450waa.18.1249151354359; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:29:14 -0700 Message-ID: <9ef7e7380908011129g43271264yfc76633e9f55bc1@mail.gmail.com> From: GrimJow Espada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 fresh install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:56:54 -0000 Hi I have installed FBSD 7.2 and when i try to set up xorg using xorgconfig or xorg -configure it doesnt work any more, any changes on the command? thanks Regards, GrimJow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 19:08:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0F3106564A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60FBD8FC1A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37084 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2009 19:08:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249153730; bh=fGBsVNQPwwyYqupsDD3Jainv5XhMbFoL82qnhQYt4jI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kRTpuQsMypjnz+cScX1wV9AX1EZFSjJSf1Xh4sPfwn/xsGzq46IRVjbPpCfZM4vgC4NgkYlsqWmYxTu+ZjisSuaoV+e1Yb6YfTS6ZNyTo6UGcgIiJy0W01gr7rguI/oOETuJWmMfvQEjvCgP0I2SvHE0hSpwC08rGUiv4uY4wy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XNFYYmDFEgX2JCQ1A1atSV28GCh2izNxeWrnR2B7fSYddGFp3MZN9rncjC751AQR5dhTdzhs3Ol5iS4wa5Fl05MtEJ32rxt01ia+6iIAX47WojsTCuW1aJhEUIDhJW/VzgD5stthAe46xVRuDJJwmUtAvovW9cfwsdYNvuZg6Ws=; Message-ID: <565560.34503.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Nv85APQVM1nTqF8qgfoaNoKm7_A1xwYghqWE4_gR5Av2nHQn41LE6sdTl434jMmockCuVweSv1TfqUhRTnP59TfIyhHDLZ3iprPJN_dpRPZUdnR4eKwl4nuj6gM11KZFEen6xOFmuXUZ4y6YaXZcYqJtYIf.cYGVVRWUowgjSyywQBk7LQDXNDJqhF2jKeTzAa9yaShpYF0fcQGAhmt1LI_wJ7uNhEeHFd8cmn2hSbiIUwnY7u1kMyxNE2LBSvZvGMcaR9t9sQsj8bUip3cHMegr0LAAvRcDF1vu_cYSmSvcM8Ufo.5z_Y5B6bQVdoH6d4KRu79qkixjqUtOk8RW_ZHG8wL8AiqF2nQQyTOEXSPAFK5fqcamyTq9QufRQ1.jMh4- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:08:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:08:50 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Filezilla doesn't work after libjpeg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:08:52 -0000 A couple of weeks ago I upgraded libjpeg to 10, and had to upgrade a bunch = of programs that required this library. =0A=0AToday I needed to use FileZil= la client and received this error:=0A=0A/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object= "libjpeg.so.9" not found, required by "libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0"=0A=0AI tri= ed to recompile FileZilla to avoid the error and it is still showing.=0A=0A= How can I avoid this?.=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogsp= ot.com=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 19:09:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A7F106568F for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B908FC17 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MXJxp-0006HY-Ay for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:09:53 +0000 Received: from pool-68-239-75-175.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.75.175]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:09:53 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-75-175.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:09:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:09:57 -0400 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <9ef7e7380908011129g43271264yfc76633e9f55bc1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-75-175.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 fresh install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:09:57 -0000 GrimJow Espada wrote: > Hi I have installed FBSD 7.2 and when i try to set up xorg using > xorgconfig or xorg -configure it doesnt work any more, any changes on the > command? thanks > Try Xorg -configure instead. May want to read too: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 19:23:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6304106564A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59FE58FC0A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 65953 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Aug 2009 18:56:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1249152981; bh=58q5CXvYAx9GHtslSDaNlXSe135Khp4zUW07fvdZTpw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qEaov653FoG0OLkEZD5qLq4bpoRK+PV6CNydYbJeGKbgCHGoJQgMpqhdIbXX3w8f9DuxErWJthk3CWVmuczvkKS0SnSca/EDQFyIxipjIZFPObZVzQS1igqcfW561tJ6vx0KSgF9YgkR1vA3Kg8/QuzfAJCWQUpmNAHoWYD/yf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=c9uymIcuZlHiv/ii7pOBUtr2q4rPEEVQ+62upy1XxU88r0qFHBsAadjGPI03Ojv8Nn3lHMEVFkt/R3CeaMsNnQk65x2hbYCZScjUxYtuJ5IEO7DnWB+Ide3kPnrYgIc9T8cy2LBEAWb3P/XBZUufg1qMNtksv01rBWEYTVZtwSc=; Message-ID: <88736.64891.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c5lhMFAVM1mWbYLBg6xaiaadeHrAbu_LhDUrX.mvY9tfUDetsBJ40yXPReOe1zGVYkJmLTjFbq8ScDlL1w4keXhRaIf.b_bfNuaTun.XES9a2KQz2KvMy2WzDFLiJPXZyua2pY2XoHaLhV.7Zgw8qS6F9bKthywRJJCmrqBTUipm_sLKMGY8c54RVWbbLzvglU.ILMFY8NIDwdrh_oAdjXjKZw89mYGYrNFQEczYiX9EZ57wfTB19Cjt.1iYnm7AOskMFNyznfrw1_EvfZ4OUGFLRGvHe0ub4cOfQ3Rqj2Q49BOHjNPCJ.XE35fwjDdHwG8AFPz1Pi5iJsP2jIC3 Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:56:21 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:56:21 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090731120022.8E64810656C4@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:23:05 -0000 "(Firefox) is a redesign of the Mozilla browser component, similar to Galeo= n, K-Meleon and Camino, but written using the XUL user interface language a= nd designed to be lightweight and cross-platform. "=0A- http://packages.deb= ian.org/stable/web/iceweasel=0A=0AThe Original Poster ruled out dillo becau= se it did not have enough features. I fear any "featureful, lightweight" we= b-browser is destined to be "bloated" like Firefox, or as some people sugge= st, Opera.=0A=0AThe introduction of the Document Object Model (and CSS) wit= h HTML 4.0 means fast Lynx-style single-pass rendering is out. JavaScript m= eans that websites can use an arbitrary amount of CPU time (sometimes delib= erately), unless throttled.=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0AJames Phillips=0A=0A--- On F= ri, 7/31/09, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:=0A=0A=0A> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:30:02 +0200=0A> = From: Wolfgang Riegler =0A> Subject: Re: Looking for fas= t graphical web browser=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-I= D: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain;=A0 = charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=0A> =0A> Give Midori a try. Of course it's a young p= roject and maybe=0A> there are not all =0A> of the features of Firefox or O= pera, but Midori is=0A> lightweight and really =0A> fast. It's based on Web= Kit, so there should be no problem=0A> with standard =0A> conform websites.= =0A> =0A> Wolfgang=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A _____________________________= _____________________________________=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from = anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ah= ttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 21:46:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502CF1065670 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285DE8FC16 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so789221wfg.7 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z9kEe4XyIT1ergiK96MokVzaerenS91ckzpkkzUEcoU=; b=sua8N1WfcaQqjyDZYP8tcDzvgIlLDV6rflENK2xDtDGpAtoULpNWEDVTvEBwju6jJn sDsRYGAknEHl4T33ypOsS1cXnzIbFDTsi+L9h6wmVytRovRKsPwyLJs8cwnw1xbs14wo 5SNUPW89Frw6Cdgp4G5ssYUoIws732+IUxE7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iZKu5HtKb8n6VFDrqONVOpPuwiAYE46gkt708KWg/dEijRT9vdlrgrgUndYsxJm9fB PESceLGNZCNhMXifRdPOqog2cTDWEE9QnsQroHkXP7DRmjEEeNi5+eGeciD/eg7Jjz6q nuFHhyWY/8fhkGfU1jyv7nuOS4XztlBlJSV4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.231.15 with SMTP id d15mr320925wfh.60.1249161662162; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:21:02 -0700 Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0908011421x3142425fm69eef6df8ebf4309@mail.gmail.com> From: David Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Manual Installations on Flash Media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:46:05 -0000 I need to create a FreeBSD installation on an SSD drive (connected via a USB adaptor), and would like to do so manually so as to avoid the use of an installation CD, PXE or sysinstall. 1. When creating an /etc/fstab file, does the order in which entries appear have any significance? I've noticed that when using sysinstall approach, the entries appear in the following order: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1d /var ufs rw 2 2 Would a device alphabetical order (as used by bsdlabel) work? 2. I don't expect the system to swap, so can I dispense with a swap entry and have everything function normally (no error messages, etc.)? 3. Will adding `noatime' to / or any other filesystem have any consequences? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 22:28:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E4F106564A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1A68FC14 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n71MSrXl008860 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:28:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n71MSrnx025959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:28:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n71MSr92025955; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:28:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:28:52 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Leonardo =?utf-8?B?TS4gUmFtw6k=?= Message-ID: <20090801222851.GA82067@dan.emsphone.com> References: <565560.34503.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <565560.34503.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:28:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filezilla doesn't work after libjpeg upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:28:56 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 01), Leonardo M. Ramé said: > > A couple of weeks ago I upgraded libjpeg to 10, and had to upgrade a bunch > of programs that required this library. > > Today I needed to use FileZilla client and received this error: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.9" not found, required by "libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0" > > I tried to recompile FileZilla to avoid the error and it is still showing. Sounds like you missed upgrading whatever port installed libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0, since it still depends on libjpeg.so.9. Run "locate libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0", then "pkg_info -W (whatever locate finds)", then "portupgrade -f (whatever pkg_info finds)". -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 1 23:10:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6799106566C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AD58FC25 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52950A1E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:10:24 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6wXpVNfeRdWy for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:10:10 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 50E17509E7; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:10:07 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090801231010.50E17509E7@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:10:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-08-01 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:10:27 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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