From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 13:42:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AB21065676 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:42:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256C18FC19 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o66DfjRW084331; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:42:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o66DfjvV084330; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:41:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:41:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201007061341.o66DfjvV084330@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-bluetooth User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:42:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 13:42:04 -0000 Hello, I'm considering to buy a Samsung DPF-800P ... This is a digital photo frame that supports wireless upload via bluetooth. According to the specs on Samsung's web site it supprts these protocols: OPP, FTP, A2DP, AVRCP. Would this work with FreeBSD? Has anybody tried this? I would like to use this photo frame as a wireless information display that would be updated from the FreeBSD server once per minute (or similar). Can anybody confirm that this would work? Or can someone recommend another piece of hardware for this purpose that would work? Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=test.pl count=1 $ file test.pl test.pl: perl script text executable From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 18:12:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81032106566B for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3647F8FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws6 with SMTP id 6so8210496vws.13 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qKYGLqdwBHQK9+lCigJE5akFP1aZkt1Z4ssTffqihDg=; b=n8WYUmCPDn5ItybAIpJbH+MIKhum8S6TaGcGlVAp+fWgv6Ab36EDs0tFNHVfIXjhU7 d6Su8hGqI8MnDRZRQKFnlrYn3iQbQDp9tmHvPOo5hCoG3Qroi0EY+d2Dh5IlXnfqNP4l S7bg+5otx724U0uoyFElt497aRR2wNzK8FojI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EGhznCnAyjpgrBHWoClVzqUAq3BchelQo0mMvaNlkMHIbULE7jWY1DYYJC4i39DZlh 1qpC7Zxa7gkVQTE97p5QthzggdpbEg68gMoQSMaC/PA6S3QsiVIOHwfZiEkKb6fGfUVM xr1SCLqhqgyuuA/BetNui7qGUGZL71tArzXhA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.62.207 with SMTP id y15mr2669002vch.97.1278439934480; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.199.13 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:12:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007061341.o66DfjvV084330@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <201007061341.o66DfjvV084330@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:12:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: Oliver Fromme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:12:22 -0000 Oliver, > I'm considering to buy a Samsung DPF-800P ... This is a > digital photo frame that supports wireless upload via > bluetooth. According to the specs on Samsung's web site > it supprts these protocols: OPP, FTP, A2DP, AVRCP. > > Would this work with FreeBSD? Has anybody tried this? opp and ftp should work. you will need to install opexapp from ports. > I would like to use this photo frame as a wireless > information display that would be updated from the FreeBSD > server once per minute (or similar). Can anybody confirm > that this would work? Or can someone recommend another > piece of hardware for this purpose that would work? i'm sure you could build your own :) all it takes is an old'ish pc w/lcd screen, bluetooth usb dongle, obexapp, image magic (or your favorite image manipulation program) and a day of work writing a script that puts all of this together :) thanks, max From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 13:34:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BD9106564A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBE18FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o67DYUAa034435; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:34:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o67DYUnv034434; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:34:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:34:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201007071334.o67DYUnv034434@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG, maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-bluetooth User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:34:46 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:34:47 -0000 Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > Oliver, > > > I'm considering to buy a Samsung DPF-800P ... This is a Sorry for the typo, it's an SPF 800P. (There's also a 1000P which differs only in the size of the display.) > > digital photo frame that supports wireless upload via > > bluetooth. According to the specs on Samsung's web site > > it supprts these protocols: OPP, FTP, A2DP, AVRCP. > > > > Would this work with FreeBSD? Has anybody tried this? > > opp and ftp should work. you will need to install opexapp from ports. You mean obexapp? Are you sure that it would work? I'm hesitant to buy a $200 device that might not work the way I need it ... Actually I hoped that someone who owns such a photo frame could confirm (or deny) that it works. Probably too much to hope for. :-) > > I would like to use this photo frame as a wireless > > information display that would be updated from the FreeBSD > > server once per minute (or similar). Can anybody confirm > > that this would work? Or can someone recommend another > > piece of hardware for this purpose that would work? > > i'm sure you could build your own :) all it takes is an old'ish pc > w/lcd screen, bluetooth usb dongle, obexapp, image magic (or your > favorite image manipulation program) and a day of work writing a > script that puts all of this together :) Sure I could do that (I would probably use a WLAN connection instead of bluetooth, though). But I don't have the space for a PC. I only have space for a display on the wall (the smaller, the better), and a power outlet for the display. There is no space for a PC, and I can't use a cable connection (usb, ethernet, whatever). So I need a display that can be updated wireless from a FreeBSD server that's located in a different room. This bluetooth photo frame seemed like it could do the job, but unless an owner of such a device can confirm, I'm not going to buy it. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Life is short (You need Python)" -- Bruce Eckel, ANSI C++ Comitee member, author of "Thinking in C++" and "Thinking in Java" From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 15:45:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03756106564A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A832D8FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws6 with SMTP id 6so9803645vws.13 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 08:45:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hE/VWDUh9lLGtAj+R24+66r4lr3pTGMmVMJ72z5sXlM=; b=P0nuHtVXQPHIuu50aV32WIG0eVDwyCFYsyydQuwOl53SKBaLg43/O7QO8drUwS1C+2 J5AHlRrjqNhnEYskgmUjFhZU6zqQkTkAq/vrwZXyx4Y1uxNglTwfYqJg/YR9pN1We/R8 qMA64aBiQs3319qgfqXtSFR/T93a1i1ZfjGXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HREuK9j5mnRVMz/zUJ9xlZ6ZtMf028XtiicjU/mn55UPQSwDArERGl0xuiVVim9C6M NU8WNDMdZIOy33gqUk7yCaYf7SUYDLAhTOxcgzOBDZ01a66OkJYsUIqdjxrmy0uBu8hR BaFjqWlv8XNBNP4OPMRCkyoepMA0+mbGXS5L4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.121.233 with SMTP id i41mr3440961vcr.3.1278517550854; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.199.13 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007071334.o67DYUnv034434@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <201007071334.o67DYUnv034434@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: Oliver Fromme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:45:57 -0000 Oliver, > =A0> > I'm considering to buy a Samsung DPF-800P ... =A0This is a > > Sorry for the typo, it's an SPF 800P. =A0(There's also a 1000P > which differs only in the size of the display.) no worries :) > =A0> > digital photo frame that supports wireless upload via > =A0> > bluetooth. =A0According to the specs on Samsung's web site > =A0> > it supprts these protocols: =A0OPP, FTP, A2DP, AVRCP. > =A0> > > =A0> > Would this work with FreeBSD? =A0Has anybody tried this? > =A0> > =A0> opp and ftp should work. you will need to install opexapp from ports= . > > You mean obexapp? =A0Are you sure that it would work? =A0I'm > hesitant to buy a $200 device that might not work the way > I need it ... yes, sorry. i meant obexapp :) obexapp is known to work with various mobile phones (and other devices) that implement opp (obex push profile) and oftp (obex file transfer profile). it is likely that you, or someone you know, own such a mobile phone, and, you can always try obexapp against it to see what it does and how it works. if obexapp works with a bluetooth qualified device (such as mobile phone) that claims to support obex push/file transfer, then, it is probably reasonable to assume that it will work with another bluetooth qualified device (such as digital photo frame :) and if it does not work, then it should be possible to fix it :) > Actually I hoped that someone who owns such a photo frame > could confirm (or deny) that it works. =A0Probably too much > to hope for. =A0:-) yeah, not quite sure why those things are so expensive :) throw in another $50-$100 and you can get an atom based netbook with 10" screen (better resolution too) with wifi and bluetooth (on some models). in any case, if you decide to get it, i would be curious to see if it works. and if it doesn't - i'd be happy to help thanks, max From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 17:31:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2152D106564A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944538FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o67HUqvl044188; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:31:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o67HUqO2044187; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:30:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:30:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201007071730.o67HUqO2044187@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG, maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-bluetooth User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:31:10 -0000 Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > yes, sorry. i meant obexapp :) obexapp is known to work with various > mobile phones (and other devices) that implement opp (obex push > profile) and oftp (obex file transfer profile). it is likely that you, > or someone you know, own such a mobile phone, and, you can always try > obexapp against it to see what it does and how it works. Well, even if it works with a mobile phone, that doesn't guarantee that it would work with such a photo frame. In fact, the bluetooth function of that photo frame is intended so you can upload pictures from a mobile phone to the frame (not from a PC, AFAIK). Can FreeBSD with obexapp act like a mobile phone? (I'm sorry if this is a dumb question; I'm not familiar with these protocols.) > > Actually I hoped that someone who owns such a photo frame > > could confirm (or deny) that it works.  Probably too much > > to hope for.  :-) > > yeah, not quite sure why those things are so expensive :) throw in > another $50-$100 and you can get an atom based netbook with 10" screen > (better resolution too) with wifi and bluetooth (on some models). Yeah, well ... I've also considered buying a small RS-232 controlled display (such as the ones from matrixorbital.com) and put an RS232-Bluetooth dongle on it. I understand these are using the SPP profile, so it should work with FreeBSD. On the other hand, such a dongle alone is in the $150 range, and it needs another power supply which is a PITA ... > in any case, if you decide to get it, i would be curious to see if it > works. and if it doesn't - i'd be happy to help I'll think it over. Thanks for your offer to help! Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing."         -- Mother Teresa From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 17:54:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5095A106566B for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93938FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws6 with SMTP id 6so9980829vws.13 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fyR6x0g1/sHkYmcxlts62sCNUeqxY//LmY5GIgnlOw8=; b=edSzG8xJqtiSrolkvlyktdyokPrVYc27zYoTy4PVF7wAUaoSn3buQqmb6UGiTZ/uIc gf6UL3SnQofX0K69SscNzv51pnT3CQ4bZCYgrtp0McfQpi3wVwDolCXknIVqkfFgPO8n JyqDf0mRDKr4sniSSrpIjDXPsM//Kcg6Q6Ha0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WUEh9IX91UHcYOvTEq6GM1N1QwPNtt+ZMpEHGXXAexcDHImMj40a0rbAkc3nnHj5bZ jAX8ggK2zwGDsrrgQ6eAwfd+ztfl111Smn1fRu9XE8Y45Zm79v4ClDtettxm0tnTsGW5 nf18adTHO8avtk0FfVZ4wEys63tLRijCyxNaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.122.1 with SMTP id j1mr3597257vcr.122.1278525267800; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.199.13 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:54:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201007071730.o67HUqO2044187@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <201007071730.o67HUqO2044187@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:54:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: Oliver Fromme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:54:42 -0000 Oliver, > > yes, sorry. i meant obexapp :) obexapp is known to work with various > > mobile phones (and other devices) that implement opp (obex push > > profile) and oftp (obex file transfer profile). it is likely that you, > > or someone you know, own such a mobile phone, and, you can always try > > obexapp against it to see what it does and how it works. > > Well, even if it works with a mobile phone, that doesn't > guarantee that it would work with such a photo frame. well, nothing will give you an absolute guarantee :) but, that is what bluetooth qualification is supposed to be for :) if a product has bluetooth logo on it then it must have passed bluetooth qualification tests. > In fact, the bluetooth function of that photo frame is > intended so you can upload pictures from a mobile phone > to the frame (not from a PC, AFAIK). Can FreeBSD with > obexapp act like a mobile phone? it does not matter, really. obex push/file transfer is exactly the same. it does not matter if it runs on pc, pda or mobile phone. to answer your question, yes, obexapp can push "objects" (such as pictures, vcards, etc.) to obex push capable device (again could be mobile phone, pc, pda or whatever). i've used obexapp to push vcards and picture to nokia and sony ericsson phones. > (I'm sorry if this is a dumb question; I'm not familiar > with these protocols.) its ok :) think about it this way: obex is a protocol (think almost binary http). protocol is a protocol no matter what device implements it. difference between push and file transfer is that file transfer allows you to browse/create/change folders, create/delete files, etc. much like regular ftp client. push only allows you to pull/push "objects" from/to an "inbox" folder. > > > Actually I hoped that someone who owns such a photo frame > > > could confirm (or deny) that it works. Probably too much > > > to hope for. :-) > > > > yeah, not quite sure why those things are so expensive :) throw in > > another $50-$100 and you can get an atom based netbook with 10" screen > > (better resolution too) with wifi and bluetooth (on some models). > > Yeah, well ... I've also considered buying a small > RS-232 controlled display (such as the ones from > matrixorbital.com) and put an RS232-Bluetooth dongle > on it. I understand these are using the SPP profile, > so it should work with FreeBSD. On the other hand, > such a dongle alone is in the $150 range, and it needs > another power supply which is a PITA ... wow :) too much moving parts :) > > in any case, if you decide to get it, i would be curious to see if it > > works. and if it doesn't - i'd be happy to help > > I'll think it over. Thanks for your offer to help! ok :) thanks, max From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 19:14:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFDE106566C for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@ovi.com) Received: from outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com (outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com [8.12.152.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABDE8FC21 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound2.messaging.lotuslive.com (44.32.6.10.in-addr.arpa [10.6.32.44]) by c-in3ofal02-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1486E321CE for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:03:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-in3ofil02-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com (48.32.6.10.in-addr.arpa [10.6.32.48]) by c-in3obnd02-02.sv2.lotusliveops.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3492FEAC for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:03:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 80.32.6.10.in-addr.arpa (c-in3ws--02-05.sv2.lotusliveops.com [10.6.32.80]) (sender gaijin.k@ovi.com) by c-in3ofil02-01.sv2.lotusliveops.com (LotusLive iNotes outfilter/0.91) with SMTP; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:03:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 26845 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2010 19:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c-in3play02-02.sv2.lotusliveops.com) (gaijin.k@ovi.com@74.105.210.169) by 80.32.5.10.in-addr.arpa with SMTP; 7 Jul 2010 19:03:31 -0000 From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: Oliver Fromme In-Reply-To: <201007071730.o67HUqO2044187@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <201007071730.o67HUqO2044187@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:02:46 -0400 Message-ID: <1278529366.54763.15.camel@RabbitsDen> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.1.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:14:46 -0000 On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:30 +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > > yes, sorry. i meant obexapp :) obexapp is known to work with various > > mobile phones (and other devices) that implement opp (obex push > > profile) and oftp (obex file transfer profile). it is likely that you, > > or someone you know, own such a mobile phone, and, you can always try > > obexapp against it to see what it does and how it works. >=20 > Well, even if it works with a mobile phone, that doesn't > guarantee that it would work with such a photo frame. >=20 > In fact, the bluetooth function of that photo frame is > intended so you can upload pictures from a mobile phone > to the frame (not from a PC, AFAIK). Can FreeBSD with > obexapp act like a mobile phone? If it helps you any... I have yet to see a difference between obexapp implementation of the Bluetooth PUSH and that of the handheld device. I have pushed pictures *from* my FreeBSD laptop *to* MacOS 10.4, Windows XP, Motorola V3xx, Nokia N75, Samsung Impression (or something similarly sounding -- no longer around to check), Nokia N810 and HTC Aria. This is not intended to give you any guarantees, merely some degree of assurance. One thing, which Maksim is much better positioned to comment on, is pairing. One would hope that frame being input-less device would just have a hardcoded PIN, but I would hunt downloadable manual for the thing and read up on the pairing process. Compatibility with Mac OS is good, multi-step Windows wizard, unless it boils down to "enter 0000 when prompted to do so", is, probably bad. Just my 2c. --=20 Alexandre Kovalenko (=D0=9E=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80= =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BA=D0=BE) -------------------------------------------------------------- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 19:32:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883BC106566B for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DADE8FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws6 with SMTP id 6so45207vws.13 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OqgZCOHcvalJeorxmlMhMrOS4KkWQlymJAQSvXIiCzM=; b=HnU5OPs1buzIDOQJaI4EWVl79JmWoxIo8zbd/TwuDxmFbWp8/lpAGYw+LaxphGO/Fs 2APVjckVzYPOtzpSP+A28nU0o2mzmpNf4tRTOJ/DCf8/U7BovCTLs8QOrvo0H0h9s0ax jFVmRxO5zE6dngwJ8D1FzMX2GOrhcrlm/Jqr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BpTTzMUfdL/RPVuyonWSwWIgtLX7f1MIPwalP42P+hXr2fvY4HANcBJ09LJ7/bpdTQ VOqgDwxZ7BeLhQfIyokEdmi2LhwZESbchEtFEHjxEGJSS1/BZKamgBkz9DlttyvzF3+N CjuXZ8p/RDqlUZBSwLACiENP0CkkRqjffWqPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.127.95 with SMTP id f31mr3659550vcs.67.1278531163651; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.199.13 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1278529366.54763.15.camel@RabbitsDen> References: <201007071730.o67HUqO2044187@lurza.secnetix.de> <1278529366.54763.15.camel@RabbitsDen> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:32:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org, Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:32:50 -0000 On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:30 +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: >> Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: >> > yes, sorry. i meant obexapp :) obexapp is known to work with various >> > mobile phones (and other devices) that implement opp (obex push >> > profile) and oftp (obex file transfer profile). it is likely that you, >> > or someone you know, own such a mobile phone, and, you can always try >> > obexapp against it to see what it does and how it works. >> >> Well, even if it works with a mobile phone, that doesn't >> guarantee that it would work with such a photo frame. >> >> In fact, the bluetooth function of that photo frame is >> intended so you can upload pictures from a mobile phone >> to the frame (not from a PC, AFAIK). Can FreeBSD with >> obexapp act like a mobile phone? > If it helps you any... I have yet to see a difference between obexapp > implementation of the Bluetooth PUSH and that of the handheld device. I > have pushed pictures *from* my FreeBSD laptop *to* MacOS 10.4, Windows > XP, Motorola V3xx, Nokia N75, Samsung Impression (or something similarly > sounding -- no longer around to check), Nokia N810 and HTC Aria. This is > not intended to give you any guarantees, merely some degree of > assurance. thanks :) > One thing, which Maksim is much better positioned to comment on, is > pairing. One would hope that frame being input-less device would just > have a hardcoded PIN, but I would hunt downloadable manual for the thing > and read up on the pairing process. Compatibility with Mac OS is good, > multi-step Windows wizard, unless it boils down to "enter 0000 when > prompted to do so", is, probably bad. according to the manual the fixed pin is 0000 :) it appears that pairing must be initiated from photo frame side. so, yes, will also need to enable hcsecd(8) and adjust /etc/bluetooth/hcsecd.conf(5) to include entry for the photo frame bdaddr with 0000 pin code. it should be fine, imo. thanks, max From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 9 16:31:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0E91065674 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7192E8FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o69GUjmu049945; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:31:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o69GUjfR049944; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:30:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:30:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201007091630.o69GUjfR049944@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <201007061341.o66DfjvV084330@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-bluetooth User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:31:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Samsung SPF-800P supported by FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:31:04 -0000 Just a small follow-up on this ... Unfortunately I found out that this frame cannot be affixed to a wall. It can only stand on a horizontal surface and requires about 10 cm of depth. So this is useless for me, and I have to look for something else. :-( Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." -- Niklaus Wirth