From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:54:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F56E1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tcm1950@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B3B8FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn5 with SMTP id 5so3418081iwn.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=OsA34RG3eBbS+Kg4jw8+c9+3QjuK9/WLIOcEH8Z2a5U=; b=fCLoGRz/34uDL7Twz20TWUFe6gE5CZGofI/JLCPA37os2pqOMN1As25BtA7dNz6ICs KxH1ND+ObZQeUiGKTg57aXkjN5Cu2m2PvEu2L4JBtXuy7JlZ6RjW/TQ9CC6pegOp5ZWI A8U/tlR53F7YCwbjj6EaPxC6f9rcc2zPXQg/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=ApZAASPx4/k5l3saZIJiMVJSYDKvYUlSnRiE2pUPuJ0uI43TtUqV80SHhD+9cp8VNq CX+3oYxLNiT/etZZGtHKyUIsN4zJ/uC0fTy8BqaDlRVn4hOoEamo8qgbbxBdFp7RS8jG d9qtwms6NX7ZKHsrp5H0komijFQu/uMuoLPCQ= Received: by 10.231.169.129 with SMTP id z1mr4194731iby.26.1275859721231; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-17-229-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [75.17.229.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r12sm17306048ibi.8.2010.06.06.14.28.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:28:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Martin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:28:39 -0500 Message-Id: To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Subject: SCSI to ATA adapter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:54:01 -0000 I saw your post. I currently have a Sun Blade 1000 and need to replace = the SCSI DVD ROM. I would like to use a ATA device if I can find an adapter. I am running = Solaris 10/ What do you recommend and where can I acquire one? I would appreciate your help. Tom Martin Dallas, Texas= From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:39:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A821065676 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from solarux@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACF18FC1E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY113-W15 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:39:06 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [67.55.16.194] From: Rick N To: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:39:06 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2010 16:39:06.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[F24C5660:01CB065F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: SCSI to ATA adapter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:39:07 -0000 It's been awhile playing with Sun hardware=2C :) but there are a lot of aftermarket "Toshiba" scsi-DVD Rom drives(which is = what Sun uses) availabale fairly cheap. Alternativley=2C the Sun blade-1000 should have a USB port=2C in which cas= e just get an external usb-dvd-rom drive... However=2C depending on the blade-1000 firmware/bios settings=2C I'm not su= re if that external USB-dvd-rom drive would be bootable ? =20 hope this helps. =20 =20 > From: tcm1950@gmail.com > Date: Sun=2C 6 Jun 2010 16:28:39 -0500 > To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: SCSI to ATA adapter? >=20 > I saw your post. I currently have a Sun Blade 1000 and need to replace th= e SCSI DVD ROM. > I would like to use a ATA device if I can find an adapter. I am running S= olaris 10/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > What do you recommend and where can I acquire one? >=20 > I would appreciate your help. >=20 > Tom Martin > Dallas=2C Texas_______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =20 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9734384= From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:43:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ED7106566C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from mx01.dls.net (mx01.dls.net [216.145.245.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6FF8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.145.235.42] (helo=emailrob.com) by mx01.dls.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM0xV-0005Jj-26; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:43:22 -0500 Message-ID: <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:43:30 +0100 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_chat References: <4C0A67E7.3080405@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [_fbsd_chat_] why the different eol lengths ? [ was: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 7.2 EoL coming soon ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:43:24 -0000 greetings --- i am putting this on _chat because it is more than a "question" and it has a tinge of "advocacy". let me say, straight_away, that i am not making any allegations or accusations; i am attempting to reason this through, deductively, and i am making little head_way. question: if version "x dot y_plus_one" is "better" [ for some definition of that word ] than version "x dot y", then why is support for the "better" version being terminated, by --design--, before support for the "less_than_better" version ? i just don't understand the "by design" part. i can understand longer support, by design, for the last version of a series [ e. g., 4.11, 5.5, 6.4, 7.3, et cetera ]; some people may like some characteristic [ of course, the last version --should-- have a long_date, by design, on general principle ]. i can understand shorter support, by design, for the zeroth version [ e. g., 5.0 ]; after all, it is, effectively, a "super_beta". i can understand, after_the_fact, extending an original end_of_life_date, due to the occurrence of some un_foreseen event. i suppose that some_one will "pipe_up" that this policy reduces the number of versions that are to be maintained; but, this argument has a flaw. in the sequence "long_date_a, short_date_b, long_date_c": if i am running "a", then why should i upgrade to "b"; if i am going to have to upgrade to "c", anyway ? i may_as_well wait for the release of "c", in the first_place. from this, it follows that there isn't much point in releasing "b" [ if many follow this reasoning, why bother ? ]. on the other hand, "b" could be announced as a "super_beta" for "c", i suppose; but, now, i have shifted from deduction to induction [ do i really want to go here ? ]. i have considered the possibility that my lack of understanding could result from my not being a "bleeding edge" type. i have rejected this argument because these people will always install the "latest_and_greatest" version nearly immediately; therefore, to them, the details of --any-- policy will be irrelevant. looking at the dates [ included below, for_your_ready_reference ], if a body is running 6.4, they may_as_well wait until the end of the year, so as to re_evaluate the situation, in light of the possible existence of 7.5, 8.3 and/or 9.1; right now, 7.3 is the only one that is worth the effort. i just don't "get it". rob FreeBSD Security Officer wrote: [snip] > Please note that since FreeBSD 7.1 > has been designated for 'Extended' support, it will continue to be supported > until the end of January 2011, i.e., FreeBSD 7.1 will be supported longer > than FreeBSD 7.2. [snip] > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Branch | Release | Type | Release date | Estimated EoL | > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_6 |n/a |n/a |n/a |November 30, 2010| > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| > |RELENG_6_4 |6.4-RELEASE |Extended|November 18, 2008|November 30, 2010| > |---------------------------------------------------------------------| > |RELENG_7 |n/a |n/a |n/a |last release + 2y| > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_7_1 |7.1-RELEASE |Extended|January 4, 2009 |January 31, 2011 | > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_7_2 |7.2-RELEASE |Normal |May 4, 2009 |June 30, 2010 | > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_7_3 |7.3-RELEASE |Extended|March 23, 2010 |March 31, 2012 | > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_8 |n/a |n/a |n/a |last release + 2y| > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_8_0 |8.0-RELEASE |Normal |November 25, 2009|November 30, 2010| > |-----------+------------+--------+-----------------+-----------------| > |RELENG_8_1 |8.1-RELEASE |Extended|not yet |release + 2 years| > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ [snip] From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 16:35:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E757D1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D378FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o58GZU1J003632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:35:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0E7152.2020601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:35:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spellberg_robert References: <4C0A67E7.3080405@freebsd.org> <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> In-Reply-To: <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: fbsd_chat Subject: Re: [_fbsd_chat_] why the different eol lengths ? [ was: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 7.2 EoL coming soon ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:35:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 15:43:30, spellberg_robert wrote: > question: > if version "x dot y_plus_one" is "better" [ for some definition of > that word ] than version "x dot y", > then why is support for the "better" version being terminated, by > --design--, before support for the "less_than_better" version ? If you've only got a few machines -- dozens maybe -- then it could well be feasible for you to upgrade to each new release about as soon as it comes out. Making new releases on each major branch about every 6 -- 8 months serves such users pretty well. On the other hand, if you've got thousands of machines, then upgrading all that lot is a serious undertaking and you'ld prefer to space such episodes out to about once every 2 years. But as an all volunteer project with limited resources, it just isn't feasible to have more than about 4 or 5 release branches all under support at the same time. Can you think of a way of satisfying all those requirements, other than by taking a few selected releases and declaring that they will have an extended support lifetime? Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwOcVIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzDagCbBAjXZO0Nogg/kGXPb22jnHAC lowAoIHTog4DUlV4udMVNi6KaMoS014y =jer2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 17:30:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585EA1065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3188FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20F91FFC33; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3CE45844F2; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:28:38 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: spellberg_robert References: <4C0A67E7.3080405@freebsd.org> <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:28:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> (spellberg robert's message of "Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:43:30 +0100") Message-ID: <86eigho2m2.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: fbsd_chat Subject: Re: [_fbsd_chat_] why the different eol lengths ? [ was: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 7.2 EoL coming soon ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:30:49 -0000 spellberg_robert writes: > if version "x dot y_plus_one" is "better" [ for some definition of > that word ] than version "x dot y", then why is support for the > "better" version being terminated, by --design--, before support for > the "less_than_better" version ? It is a simple matter of resources. We have limited manpower and can't afford to support too many releases at once. Even the current system (one year for normal releases, two for extended releases) strains our resources; we currently support five releases (6.4, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0). Support for 7.2 ends on June 30th, but 8.1 is right around the corner. Note that this is how "everybody" does it (for suitable values of "everybody"). Ubuntu, for instance, supports regular releases for 18 months and "LTS" (long-term support) releases for 36 months. Every fourth release (the spring release in even-numbered years) is an LTS release. And they're not even all-volunteer - if they were, they'd probably cut down to 13 / 25 instead of 19 / 37. > in the sequence "long_date_a, short_date_b, long_date_c": if i am > running "a", then why should i upgrade to "b"; if i am going to have > to upgrade to "c", anyway ? i may_as_well wait for the release of > "c", in the first_place. Large (i.e. corporate) users usually won't consider upgrading to a particular release until it's been out for six months or a year and they've had time to test it thoroughly. If we didn't support at least some releases for significantly more than a year, they'd abandon FreeBSD entirely. I have customers who are still running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and have barely started evaluating 10.04 LTS. They probably won't start deploying it to production systems until late this year or early next year. (sadly, I do not currently have any customers running FreeBSD) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 17:55:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD32C106566C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from mx03.dls.net (mx03.dls.net [216.145.245.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0A48FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.145.235.55] (helo=emailrob.com) by mx03.dls.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM31p-0005SL-Vl; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4C0E7626.3090807@emailrob.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:56:06 +0100 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_chat References: <4C0A67E7.3080405@freebsd.org> <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> <86eigho2m2.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [_fbsd_chat_] why the different eol lengths ? [ was: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 7.2 EoL coming soon ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:55:59 -0000 i understand about limited resources forcing the number down. that is not my point. this may be a semantics game, but, in general, do fbsd project_people consider the right_most digit[s] to be a "minor_version number", a "patch_level" or something_else ? the answer may help clarify my thinking for my follow_up. rob From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 03:12:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089191065675 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCAD8FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C068D1FFC33; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1277B844E4; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:09:59 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: spellberg_robert References: <4C0A67E7.3080405@freebsd.org> <4C0E5712.2000606@emailrob.com> <86eigho2m2.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4C0E7626.3090807@emailrob.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:09:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C0E7626.3090807@emailrob.com> (spellberg robert's message of "Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:56:06 +0100") Message-ID: <864ohc52bd.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: fbsd_chat Subject: Re: [_fbsd_chat_] why the different eol lengths ? [ was: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] HEADS UP: FreeBSD 7.2 EoL coming soon ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:12:11 -0000 spellberg_robert writes: > do fbsd project_people consider the right_most digit[s] to be > a "minor_version number", > a "patch_level" or > something_else ? A minor version number. The complete nomenclature for a release is .-RELEASE[-p], where the last part is omitted until a patch is actually applied. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no