From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 05:36:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0266106566C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 05:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from geniegate.com (geniegate.com [65.18.174.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D188FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 05:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geniegate.com (geniegate.com [65.18.174.84]) by geniegate.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o665e435004245 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 05:40:04 GMT (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by geniegate.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o665e40D004244 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 05:40:04 GMT (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) X-Authentication-Warning: geniegate.com: joe set sender to jamie@geniegate.com using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 00:36:15 -0500 From: Jamie To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100706053615.GA14543@apollo.podro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Favorite method of saving jail disk space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 05:36:17 -0000 Whats the latest and greatest way to save space when building jail systems? Quite awhile ago, I tried using a "base" and a sort of union filesystem, but it crashed (plus, I wondered about filesystem performance with 2 layers) And about QEMU... I'm using freebsd in qemu here (running linux), but thinking about switching back to freebsd. Gentoo decided to bork my X11.. so I'm stuck with the same X11/ATI problems I had when I went with freebsd the first time.. I've since learned to "get around" them by.. get this.. Running X11 in a VNC environment, then connecting to vnc from within linux to bypass the accelleration and yay! audacity works! Kind of curious about freebsd hosting qemu, as opposed to freebsd running IN qemu. I have to run other OS's sometimes, but I believe I might put a "linux environment" in a jail. Ever tried to give a (real) usb devices to an emulated OS to get the emulator OS to handle the drivers? (I have a tricked out 24-bit sound device that doesn't play well with unix-ish systems) Jamie -- http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 12:54:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B29106564A for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 12:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fb-chat@psconsult.nl) Received: from mx1.psconsult.nl (psc11.adsl.iaf.nl [80.89.238.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69768FC19 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 12:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.psconsult.nl (psc11.adsl.iaf.nl [80.89.238.138]) by mx1.psconsult.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o66CrOsw008160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:53:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fb-chat@psconsult.nl) Received: (from paul@localhost) by mx1.psconsult.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o66CrOSG008159 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:53:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fb-chat@psconsult.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: mx1.psconsult.nl: paul set sender to fb-chat@psconsult.nl using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:53:24 +0200 From: Paul Schenkeveld To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100706125324.GA2585@psconsult.nl> References: <20100706053615.GA14543@apollo.podro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100706053615.GA14543@apollo.podro.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Favorite method of saving jail disk space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:54:49 -0000 On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 12:36:15AM -0500, Jamie wrote: > Whats the latest and greatest way to save space when building jail > systems? See my paper at http://www.psconsult.nl/talks/AsiaBSDcon2010-Servers/ . Regards, Paul Schenkeveld From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 13:13:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564E6106566B for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111348FC15 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so915984gxk.13 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=PlhaU+AT2iLECP8CYUOHSyudvdpqrUWQa2kO8U0+BeU=; b=OA8128HW33gkjFF4ExzQ67CeqqjgaHHHEoVA2lhoxl4mCqUazb439wfSJ84BLD2zJF 0iV5q7jsD21AmXHWuZJ6PG5JVt1SiaL6+MPIWncbsgEtsqcCxwmzyRZyjZrKZM96tNnI 81GsQjniWBBRIKoKEazFmcr59nSZGMvKZTuV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=glenYRgE8KahvDaOCVhBPh626meLbOXgtLZSYWETCYaXEssICs3Kektue6gsnErRPN 0wUD9BR0btcPJ/aFC0e+5RJnnXFzdfek1DLIcDKQ82Mq+JJTiqihRYPPrSDOkOXUQcks u7tvhfLPc4zAU0GNdd+6DxFGT/H5MbqypqdMU= Received: by 10.229.190.71 with SMTP id dh7mr2643583qcb.192.1278421999224; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mozolevsky@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.190.194 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 06:12:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100706053615.GA14543@apollo.podro.com> References: <20100706053615.GA14543@apollo.podro.com> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:12:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qUlPjEyTdYJiCV3qNB0R3Sgc9Ac Message-ID: To: Jamie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Favorite method of saving jail disk space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 13:13:25 -0000 On 6 July 2010 06:36, Jamie wrote: > Whats the latest and greatest way to save space when building jail > systems? Not sure what you mean, but what I do is just run the application in a jail (requires a bit of hackery to work out what the application needs to run, once you build a _static_ version of the application) and not build a fully-fledged jail and then drop the application into it, if you see what I mean. Cheers, -- Igor From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 14:35:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7110F106566C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from geniegate.com (geniegate.com [65.18.174.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383078FC0C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geniegate.com (geniegate.com [65.18.174.84]) by geniegate.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o66EcsV1023613 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:38:54 GMT (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by geniegate.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id o66Ecscx023612 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:38:54 GMT (envelope-from jamie@geniegate.com) X-Authentication-Warning: geniegate.com: joe set sender to jamie@geniegate.com using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:35:05 -0500 From: Jamie To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100706143505.GD14543@apollo.podro.com> References: <20100706053615.GA14543@apollo.podro.com> <20100706125324.GA2585@psconsult.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100706125324.GA2585@psconsult.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Favorite method of saving jail disk space? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:35:07 -0000 On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 02:53:24PM +0200, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: > > See my paper at http://www.psconsult.nl/talks/AsiaBSDcon2010-Servers/ . > Looks interesting! I'd like to play with ZFS sometime, but I've heard reports that it's extremely memory intensive and it seems like it'd need 3+ drives to be effective. I would like to try it out sometime though. :-) -- http://www.geniegate.com Custom web programming Perl * Java * UNIX User Management Solutions From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 9 15:09:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FE01065672 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdixon@omniti.com) Received: from edge.omniti.com (smtp.omniti.com [8.8.38.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464478FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:09:28 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=omniti.com; s=s1024; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; i=@omniti.com; t=1278688135; h=From:Subject:Date:To; bh=4JESy4pcnlNxRWe0D3mXe8goYSw6mgxQuRTfP0+6sWM=; b=PPBZJwLA1BsWZCp7/FnaYpmJFRElcyaJFiMruLy7PjVctfk74Yh8U98laxdGcJMM Z5aWGlGvFvYX0UuXzacp1MPYSaa8FKYnv03NBkTerzMGp98/Ap4txg/oPIXnbsxI VmJbkmhL6iX1h6Uxe/4/R/dgHEACans1E5IS1x3pHLc=; Authentication-Results: edge smtp.user=jdixon@omniti.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [68.55.0.29] ([68.55.0.29:59756] helo=omniti.com) by edge (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.35 r(26636M)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 0C/2C-17327-78B373C4; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:08:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:08:52 -0400 From: Jason Dixon To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100709150851.GH4133@omniti.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Last day to submit your Surge 2010 CFP! 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