From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 15:37:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257611065680; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFCF8FC18; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2524447bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=KALNURrPVC+h3krIwCpgR8GlrUqLSlP2g6yNJFApwUo=; b=B4nedqGZRsUdJPW9F2Sy7C24RTC95tOcjawFR2eEqXuvJUHqOEoIIUxYSfWAVNCWEz gb0ApP3fMjBPbs8A1qd5mnvB/fANO6RYflQF9xt2I26ybuGaxsUnoHs4ZH5dlbMzGebw n/YHJ5wDtji/tDNgdPV3O1/+1yQirlKxdtULw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=OP0PO5ousRgEd38BrzakFT1FE/Le1qy0FL7Vn5kI6Ya2LwXINeILKRKzrmu3qeiIDD MbYU6sISOJG7piI5j0FwMkQO/tclqAK3L4shv9OpDmeWHRu9DG4shQ3bz9iEALVe+vd/ RUveg+uHzimzcl+cqsSJtgsJSjUiZ7BexnsV8= Received: by 10.204.133.129 with SMTP id f1mr5680138bkt.45.1270395431903; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from potato (potato.growveg.org [62.49.247.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5sm97459479bkd.1.2010.04.04.08.37.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:33:47 +0100 From: John To: krad Message-ID: <20100404153347.GA40823@potato> References: <6201873e1003290731x148a2415q5113feb8a0479d4b@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e1003290739t588ae242gef92d14e9d889749@mail.gmail.com> <20100329172352.GA85779@potato> <20100331005639.GA91332@potato> <6201873e1003301813o32024529s8dae620af17b87db@mail.gmail.com> <20100401135841.GA98802@potato> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Adam Vande More , Varan Okul , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0 (LSI2008) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:37:15 -0000 Hi, In the end I had to go with opensuse-11.2. I should have tried it in the second place really, because the iDRAC has Suse enterprise as an installation option, so it was a small leap to think of the free version. Here are the OSes I tried: FreeBSD 8 FreeBSD 9 NetBSD 5.0.2 CentOS Ubuntu 9.10 server Basically the LSI SA2008 seems very new so it's unsurprising my favourite OS doesn't support it. Hopefully it will in the near future, because this card is a popular option on a popular server aimed at small to medium sized businesses. OpenSuse-11.2 also does GPT in its installation process. I had to raid0 the disks before they could be seen properly though. Current dmesg is available here: http://www.growveg.org/server/dmesg.txt -- John - comp dot john at googlemail dot com OpenBSD firewall | FreeBSD desktop | Ubuntu Karmic laptop GPG: 0xF08A33C5 From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 16:00:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D812710656A5 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtpfb2-g21.free.fr (smtpfb2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF2D8FC1A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by smtpfb2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92B9CA97F9 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:42:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4A0940011; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:42:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4F9940135; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:42:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740FF33E4E; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 53C07A1122; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:42:13 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100404154213.GX40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: jeremie@le-hen.org Subject: Intel G945GSE (Atom-based) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:00:25 -0000 Hi, --->> Please Cc: me when replying, I am not subscribed. <<--- I was initially planning to buy a Zotac Ion ITX motherboard (nVidia Ion chipset), but I'm afraid that I won't be well supported on FreeBSD. Thus I plan to buy an Intel D945GSE motherboard instead. I think this one is more common and should have better support. Does anyone use this motherboard on FreeBSD? Does it work correctly? I'm planning to build a small NAS running either -STABLE or -CURRENT, if it is required for hardware support, offering NFS/CIFS access to ZFS filesystems. Would this hardware be sufficient performance-wise? Thanks for your help. Regards, -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 17:19:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8403C106566C; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluknet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67B68FC14; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2560889bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pD1jS9t2wkxqYZsUypROZbpGCrcnbWdaf5nxupagaF0=; b=nbN8f2ipf3Ol3RW9rnXJx+uNurbos4ssyIfar7AUeljh2pXoT00NQJLp8OrDybyh0F Bv/Wj4goxZ8OC7OPZH18upoJam0IsuM0OotQ80pfGvH9hwX5vZfU8HLFgP/HKBzAeWcW 5XmEaFsTlaayZVzYpTwGM6VyH+6pBMWaQCDHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fbq1YicWENkNxKnNi+i91DvEwg0RdzICdrz6aMQS8mdJ2dhiQiBiuhclqDYW40t15u YUY6xqk4D6ZCPNQeMNT8Pcf9SMfDLc7q3i8r9gPgwUsNqmfef8/BiomLBgFKvA2Cs/l5 6mIDHX/7HVBD8ruPKihO3beftmwIOctNKM23Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.47.232 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100404153347.GA40823@potato> References: <6201873e1003290731x148a2415q5113feb8a0479d4b@mail.gmail.com> <20100329172352.GA85779@potato> <20100331005639.GA91332@potato> <6201873e1003301813o32024529s8dae620af17b87db@mail.gmail.com> <20100401135841.GA98802@potato> <20100404153347.GA40823@potato> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:19:19 +0400 Received: by 10.204.84.142 with SMTP id j14mr3029723bkl.124.1270401559598; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: pluknet To: John Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Adam Vande More , Varan Okul , krad , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-8 support for dell R710 SATA raid-0 (LSI2008) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:19:21 -0000 On 4 April 2010 19:33, John wrote: > Hi, > > In the end I had to go with opensuse-11.2. I should have tried it in the > second place really, because the iDRAC has Suse enterprise as an > installation option, so it was a small leap to think of the free > version. > > Here are the OSes I tried: > > FreeBSD 8 > FreeBSD 9 > NetBSD 5.0.2 > CentOS > Ubuntu 9.10 server > > Basically the LSI SA2008 seems very new so it's unsurprising my > favourite OS doesn't support it. Hopefully it will in the near future, > because this card is a popular option on a popular server aimed at > small to medium sized businesses. OpenSuse-11.2 also does GPT in its > installation process. I had to raid0 the disks before they could be > seen properly though. > > Current dmesg is available here: http://www.growveg.org/server/dmesg.txt A wild guess it's just not listed in mfi(4) pciids table (as well as for rest H200 family). What if you try this? --- sys/dev/mfi/mfi_pci.c.orig 2010-04-04 20:02:26.000000000 +0400 +++ sys/dev/mfi/mfi_pci.c 2010-04-04 20:06:17.000000000 +0400 @@ -117,6 +117,7 @@ } mfi_identifiers[] = { {0x1000, 0x0060, 0x1028, 0xffff, MFI_FLAGS_1078, "Dell PERC 6"}, {0x1000, 0x0060, 0xffff, 0xffff, MFI_FLAGS_1078, "LSI MegaSAS 1078"}, + {0x1000, 0x0072, 0x1028, 0x1f1e, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "Dell PERC H200 Integrated"}, {0x1000, 0x0078, 0xffff, 0xffff, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "LSI MegaSAS Gen2"}, {0x1000, 0x0079, 0x1028, 0x1f15, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "Dell PERC H800 Adapter"}, {0x1000, 0x0079, 0x1028, 0x1f16, MFI_FLAGS_GEN2, "Dell PERC H700 Adapter"}, -- wbr, pluknet From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 21:55:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB966106564A; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C428FC13; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFAE9400D4; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:54:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEAD940058; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:54:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1349F33E4E; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E5C1DA1122; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:54:55 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Jeremie Le Hen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:55:07 -0000 Hi, --->> Cc: me when replying, as I'm not subscribed. <<--- I cross-post this reply to freebsd-hardware@ since the result of my little study around Atom-based motherboard may be of interest for readers of this ML too. On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 03:00:09PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On 4/4/10, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > --->> Please Cc: me when replying, I'm not subscribed. <<--- > > > > I plan to purchase a Zotac motherboard with a embedded ATOM processor. > > It uses an NVidia chipset. > > > > http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-ionitx-f-e-atom-n330-1-6ghz-dual-core-mini-itx-intel-motherboard.html > > > > My intent is to build a small NAS with ZFS and NFS/CIFS. I'd like to > > know if anyone successfully ran FreeBSD on this motherboard and what > > performance could be achieved, especially if ZFS is used. I checked the > > archives without luck. > > A NAS w/ ZFS, NFS and CIFS/SMB, doesn't need any feature of the ion > chipset. Why are you electing for this board if you're not running > any graphical environment? > > And ZFS is memory hungry, the Atom is a i386-like chip, so you'd have > too much overhead with ZFS. > > I think you've elected the wrong board for your purposes. Will > FreeBSD run on it? yes. I have freebsd on another atom N-series ASUS > box. Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based motherboard. By the way, I found an post on OpenSolaris forums where the author achieves something like 35MB/s on a ZFS filesystem through CIFS using an Intel Atom-based motherboard [1]. This is enough for the use I intend to have. Zotac mobo is better than Intel D954GSE because it provides a wireless interface - although I couldn't figure out which chipset yet, so I don't know if it's corretly supported on FreeBSD - and three S-ATA connectors. I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). I can live with two S-ATA connectors and I can plug a wireless interface on the available PCI connector if I ever need it. Regards, [1] http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2009-June/048214.html [2] http://www.homeserverhacks.com/2009/06/hands-on-whs-build-with-intel-d945gsejt.html [3] http://www.anandtech.com/show/2765/12 -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 00:25:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F84C106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436AC8FC12 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o350P2or025193 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:25:02 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4BB92DDE.2080804@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:25:02 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> In-Reply-To: <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:25:06 -0000 On 04/04/2010 22:54, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Hi, > > --->> Cc: me when replying, as I'm not subscribed. <<--- > > I cross-post this reply to freebsd-hardware@ since the result of my > little study around Atom-based motherboard may be of interest for > readers of this ML too. > > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 03:00:09PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > >> On 4/4/10, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> --->> Please Cc: me when replying, I'm not subscribed. <<--- >>> >>> I plan to purchase a Zotac motherboard with a embedded ATOM processor. >>> It uses an NVidia chipset. >>> >>> http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-ionitx-f-e-atom-n330-1-6ghz-dual-core-mini-itx-intel-motherboard.html >>> >>> My intent is to build a small NAS with ZFS and NFS/CIFS. I'd like to >>> know if anyone successfully ran FreeBSD on this motherboard and what >>> performance could be achieved, especially if ZFS is used. I checked the >>> archives without luck. >>> >> A NAS w/ ZFS, NFS and CIFS/SMB, doesn't need any feature of the ion >> chipset. Why are you electing for this board if you're not running >> any graphical environment? >> >> And ZFS is memory hungry, the Atom is a i386-like chip, so you'd have >> too much overhead with ZFS. >> Actually I run a zotac atom board, forget the model just of hand but can look it up tomorrow if you like, Its amd64 so zfs should be viable, I dont run it though. CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (1601.61-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x106c2 Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfe9fbff Features2=0x40e31d AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3356155904 (3200 MB) ACPI APIC Table: <050809 APIC1106> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 >> I think you've elected the wrong board for your purposes. Will >> FreeBSD run on it? yes. I have freebsd on another atom N-series ASUS >> box. >> > Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want > necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary > concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based > motherboard. By the way, I found an post on OpenSolaris forums where > the author achieves something like 35MB/s on a ZFS filesystem through > CIFS using an Intel Atom-based motherboard [1]. This is enough for the > use I intend to have. > > Zotac mobo is better than Intel D954GSE because it provides a wireless > interface - although I couldn't figure out which chipset yet, so I don't > know if it's corretly supported on FreeBSD - and three S-ATA connectors. > > The zotac board I have is atheros ath0: mem 0xfebf0000-0xfebfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: AR9280 mac 128.2 RF5133 phy 13.0 which is working fine for me (8.0-RELEASE) Hope that helps a little. Vince > I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some > additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is > less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with > a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). I can live with two S-ATA connectors and I can > plug a wireless interface on the available PCI connector if I ever need > it. > > Regards, > > [1] http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2009-June/048214.html > [2] http://www.homeserverhacks.com/2009/06/hands-on-whs-build-with-intel-d945gsejt.html > [3] http://www.anandtech.com/show/2765/12 > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 00:40:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BB4106566C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5C8FC08; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-253-149.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.253.149]) by mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o350eeRn021709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:42 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o350eb6I033132; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o350eZ9o033131; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:40:35 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Jeremie Le Hen Message-ID: <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-CMAE-Score: 0 Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:40:45 -0000 --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2010-Apr-04 23:54:55 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: >Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want >necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary >concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based >motherboard. Unfortunately, FreeBSD has some issues with low memory handling that make FreeBSD/i386 a bad choice for ZFS. You would be far better off running amd64 with as much RAM as you can fit onto the board. (And this is one case where you want amd64 even if you don't have >4GB RAM). Note that this doesn't mean you can't use an Atom - some Atoms include EM64T - you just need to check. IMO, the biggest disadvantage of using an Atom in a ZFS NAS is the lack of ECC support on the Atom. ZFS can detect bitflips in the I/O sustem but you can still get screwed by a bitflip in RAM. >I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some >additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is >less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with >a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). I'd recommend against buying anything with the Atom combined with a 945. Whilst the Atom is low-power, the 945 isn't. That is also an older motherboard using an older, superseded Atom. I suggest you look for motherboards built around the new Pinetrail Atoms (which _do_ support EM46T and hence can run amd64). Supermicro make a number of potentially suitable boards: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA.cfm this is pricier but supports remote management - other options at: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/ If you want an Intel MB, search for BOXD510MO Note that I'm not sure how well FreeBSD's X.org supports the Pinetrail yet. There have been some commits but I don't know if support is complete. --=20 Peter Jeremy --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku5MYIACgkQ/opHv/APuIdzowCeIBwjxQrbHFWQCeP83N6Qwfa7 yYAAoLjlszJPezdKyuaeKuRIXt0HxdbK =ETyd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 00:59:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A3E106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA338FC21 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2702811bwz.3 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:59:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zhnkx0Bu4FxDRpQ/kBN31sg5XCGOmaOyIY4fg+VMCbg=; b=vrgWWitzaAVuOKqUatrb9TCN0O+Vq0YLHtxJT2zvAEIZM15RaMHNkE9Q+T87T2oJv6 HJv7EzwkrgMYbBBSz8FLiAq1goLMQ1z8eSvVOnCW8NK1tUfZySjVK35a8J3kfrqfKA4L eSPy4XPP2K5ciRzz8fvRRxAab6R4sMjEwOWUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iWE0TE6PwItP3W2q67ODhgYOfM56fs2rjzMaCssPIM2bNQMakPfAUCP1TNB38zmO9x PwX8rlzHLPI47BCAXgOt0GH4xme071lN3rwt4RBFsYyIA1KaAkJ/N0sPeUFmCbmuFRAb WPxdlyjldoATomMVX4F+/kIL/YujjtyWtM7L8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:37:14 +0300 Received: by 10.204.83.132 with SMTP id f4mr6261486bkl.73.1270427834656; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: jeremie@le-hen.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 00:59:56 -0000 Just a small comment regarding Atom suitability for a home NAS: feel free to completely ignore people saying that ZFS overhead is too much for an Atom to handle efficiently, they have no idea what they are talking about. I am using a Supermicro X7SPA-H board (Atom D510) and I an easily achieving ~85mb/s transfers over Samba to and from the machine. 85mb/s is also the best these drives will do and my CPU is nowhere near maxed during these transfers, so with better disks I would be easily saturating gigabit, while still having plenty of available CPU time. What you want is a good disk controller and fast and reliable disks, 2gb RAM is enough, but with 4gb ram you can basically safely enable prefetch for a very noticable boost in sequential pattern reads. Below are some numbers from my personal Atom NAS system: =================================================================== bonnie -s 8192 -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- Machine MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 8192 29065 68.9 52027 39.8 39636 33.3 54057 95.4 105335 34.6 174.1 7.9 dd if=/dev/zero of=test1 bs=1M count=8192 8589934592 bytes transferred in 111.300481 secs (77177875 bytes/sec) (73,6mb/s) dd if=/dev/urandom of=test2 bs=1M count=8192 dd if=test2 of=/dev/zero bs=1M 8589934592 bytes transferred in 76.031399 secs (112978779 bytes/sec) (107,74mb/s) =================================================================== This is a ZFS mirror of 2 x 2tb WD Green drives with 32mb cache with the automatic headparking disabled via WDIDLE3. The drives are very cheap and hence, are the bottleneck in my case. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 02:12:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3C41065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from doppler.zen.co.uk (doppler.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88D48FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.23.3.140] (helo=smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk) by doppler.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NybZG-0008Ae-1S for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:57:34 +0000 Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NybZE-0000Gn-D7 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 01:57:32 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:58:42 +0100 From: S Roberts To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Subject: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 02:12:41 -0000 Hello, Is anyone using this graphics card on FreeBSD-8 amd64? If so, can you advise me which nvidia driver it is that I need to use, please? Thanks. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 03:53:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA37106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dean@fragfest.com.au) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4758FC0A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 03:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.29.0.131] (c122-106-173-63.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.173.63]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o353rQlE010696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:53:28 +1000 Message-ID: <4BB95EA8.7030200@fragfest.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:53:12 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: S Roberts References: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:53:31 -0000 Despite Nvidia's promise to update the driver for amd64 when 8.0 was released, this has yet to happen. You should abuse them politely in their forums. Dean S Roberts wrote: > Hello, > Is anyone using this graphics card on FreeBSD-8 amd64? > > If so, can you advise me which nvidia driver it is that I need to use, > please? > > Thanks. > > Regards, > > S Roberts > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 06:12:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51999106566B; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cnst@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hita.home.const.name (dale.cnst.cs.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.7.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A286E8FC08; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hita.home.const.name (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hita.home.const.name (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o355xmup004035; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:59:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cnst@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from constant@localhost) by hita.home.const.name (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o355xmnn004034; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:59:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cnst@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hita.home.const.name: constant set sender to cnst@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:59:47 -0400 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-drivers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100405055947.GA3544@hita.home.const.name> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org, cnst@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: David R. Cheriton School of Computer Science, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo X-Postal-Address: Constantine A. Murenin, David R. Cheriton School of Computer Science, University of Waterloo, 200 University Avenue West, Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3G1 Canada X-Office-Phone: +1-519-888-4567 x33581 X-Mobile-Phone: +1-K1W-ST1-CNST X-WWW: http://Constantine.SU/ X-LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mureninc Cc: "Constantine A. Murenin" Subject: aibs(4): ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ATK0110) Hardware Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:12:11 -0000 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Dear freebsd-{acpi,drivers,hardware}@, Attached patch provides support for the hardware monitoring capabilities that are present in many modern desktop motherboards from ASUS featuring the ATK0110 ACPI device. This driver, aibs(4), is a fresh replacement for FreeBSD's existing acpi_aiboost(4). The new aibs(4) driver has the following advantages when compared to the old acpi_aiboost(4): * the sensors are now provided through the user-serviceable hw.acpi.aibs0 tree (with a subtree for each sensor type), instead of the Newbus-internal dev.acpi_aiboost.0 tree that contains various nonprime data at the same level as the actual sensors * the supposed range specifications are now reported for each input that is being sensed * the nature of the new tree, with "volt", "temp" and "fan" subtrees, allows one to specifically query for the sensors of a certain type * the temperature sensors are exported in the temperature 'K' units through sysctl(9), such that they are pretty-printed by sysctl(8) automatically * more user documentation is provided It is expected that aibs(4) should replace any and all functionality previously provided by acpi_aiboost(4), provide additional features as specified above and decrease the size of both the source and the binary code. Please find the demonstration below. > ll /usr/c/src/sys/dev/acpi_support/{acpi_aiboost,atk0110}.c -rw-r--r-- 1 constant wheel 8919 Apr 3 20:31 /usr/c/src/sys/dev/acpi_support/acpi_aiboost.c -rw-r--r-- 1 constant wheel 8638 Apr 4 17:34 /usr/c/src/sys/dev/acpi_support/atk0110.c > ll /boot/kernel/*aib*s* -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11581 Apr 4 18:24 /boot/kernel/acpi_aiboost.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24504 Apr 4 18:24 /boot/kernel/acpi_aiboost.ko.symbols -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9958 Apr 4 18:24 /boot/kernel/aibs.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24924 Apr 4 18:24 /boot/kernel/aibs.ko.symbols > sudo kldload acpi_aiboost.ko > sysctl dev.acpi_aiboost.0 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%desc: ASUStek AIBOOSTER dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%driver: acpi_aiboost dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.ASOC dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=ATK0110 _UID=16843024 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.temp0: 310 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.temp1: 580 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt0: 1192 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt1: 3312 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt2: 5017 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt3: 12302 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.fan0: 912 dev.acpi_aiboost.0.fan1: 0 > sysctl -d dev.acpi_aiboost.0 dev.acpi_aiboost.0: dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%desc: device description dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%driver: device driver name dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%location: device location relative to parent dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%pnpinfo: device identification dev.acpi_aiboost.0.%parent: parent device dev.acpi_aiboost.0.temp0: CPU Temperature dev.acpi_aiboost.0.temp1: MB Temperature dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt0: Vcore Voltage dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt1: +3.3 Voltage dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt2: +5 Voltage dev.acpi_aiboost.0.volt3: +12 Voltage dev.acpi_aiboost.0.fan0: CPU FAN Speed dev.acpi_aiboost.0.fan1: CHASSIS FAN Speed > sudo kldunload acpi_aiboost.ko > sudo kldload aibs.ko > sysctl hw.acpi.aibs0 hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.0: 1192 850 1600 hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.1: 3312 2970 3630 hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.2: 5017 4500 5500 hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.3: 12302 10200 13800 hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.0: 31.0C 80.0C 95.0C hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.1: 58.0C 60.0C 95.0C hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.0: 907 600 7200 hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.1: 0 700 7200 > sysctl -d hw.acpi.aibs0 hw.acpi.aibs0: ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ASOC ATK0110) hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.0: Vcore Voltage hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.1: +3.3 Voltage hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.2: +5 Voltage hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.3: +12 Voltage hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.0: CPU Temperature hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.1: MB Temperature hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.0: CPU FAN Speed hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.1: CHASSIS FAN Speed > sudo kldunload aibs.ko Best regards, Constantine.SU. --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline; filename="svn_diff.aibs.r0.2010-04-04T205818-0400.patch" Index: share/man/man4/aibs.4 =================================================================== --- share/man/man4/aibs.4 (revision 0) +++ share/man/man4/aibs.4 (revision 0) @@ -0,0 +1,207 @@ +.\" $FreeBSD$ +.\" $NetBSD: aibs.4,v 1.2 2010/02/09 05:37:25 cnst Exp $ +.\" $OpenBSD: aibs.4,v 1.4 2009/07/30 06:30:45 jmc Exp $ +.\" +.\" Copyright (c) 2009/2010 Constantine A. Murenin +.\" +.\" Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any +.\" purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above +.\" copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. +.\" +.\" THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES +.\" WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF +.\" MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR +.\" ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES +.\" WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN +.\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF +.\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. +.\" +.Dd April 4, 2010 +.Dt AIBS 4 +.Os +.Sh NAME +.Nm aibs +.Nd "ASUSTeK AI Booster ACPI ATK0110 voltage, temperature and fan sensor" +.Sh SYNOPSIS +To compile this driver into the kernel, +place the following lines in your +kernel configuration file: +.Bd -ragged -offset indent +.Cd "device acpi" +.Cd "device aibs" +.Ed +.Pp +Alternatively, to load the driver as a +module at boot time, place the following lines in +.Xr loader.conf 5 : +.Bd -literal -offset indent +acpi_load="YES" +aibs_load="YES" +.Ed +.Sh DESCRIPTION +The +.Nm +driver provides support for the voltage, temperature and fan sensors +available through the +.Tn ATK0110 +.Tn ASOC +.Tn ACPI +device +on +.Tn ASUSTeK +motherboards. +The number of sensors of each type, +as well as the description of each sensor, +varies according to the motherboard. +.Pp +The driver supports an arbitrary set of sensors, +provides descriptions regarding what each sensor is used for, +and reports the current values as well as +the supposed range specifications of each sensor's input +as defined by the motherboard manufacturer through +.Tn ACPI . +.Pp +The range specifications are as follows: +.Bl -bullet +.It +Voltage sensors have a lower and an upper range specification. +.It +Temperature sensors have two upper specifications. +.It +Fan sensors may either have only the lower specification, +or, depending on the +.Tn DSDT , +one lower and one upper specification. +.El +.Pp +Sensor readings and the range specifications are made available through the +.Xr sysctl 3 +interface, +and can be monitored with +.Xr sysctl 8 . +For example, on an ASUS V3-P5G965 barebone: +.Bd -literal -offset indent +> sysctl hw.acpi.aibs0 +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.0: 1192 850 1600 +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.1: 3312 2970 3630 +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.2: 5017 4500 5500 +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.3: 12302 10200 13800 +hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.0: 30.0C 80.0C 95.0C +hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.1: 58.0C 60.0C 95.0C +hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.0: 902 600 7200 +hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.1: 0 700 7200 +.Pp +> sysctl -d hw.acpi.aibs0 +hw.acpi.aibs0: ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ASOC ATK0110) +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.0: Vcore Voltage +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.1: +3.3 Voltage +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.2: +5 Voltage +hw.acpi.aibs0.volt.3: +12 Voltage +hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.0: CPU Temperature +hw.acpi.aibs0.temp.1: MB Temperature +hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.0: CPU FAN Speed +hw.acpi.aibs0.fan.1: CHASSIS FAN Speed +.Ed +.Pp +Generally, sensors provided by the +.Nm +driver may also be supported by certain other drivers or utilities +that access the +.Tn ISA / +.Tn LPC +or +.Tn I2C / +.Tn SMBus +devices directly. +The precise collection of +.Nm +sensors is comprised of the sensors +specifically utilised in the motherboard +design, which may be supported through +a combination of one or more physical hardware monitoring chips. +.Pp +The +.Nm +driver, however, provides the following advantages +when compared to the native hardware monitoring drivers or other utilities: +.Bl -bullet +.It +Sensor values from +.Nm +are expected to be more reliable. +For example, voltage sensors in many hardware monitoring chips +can only sense voltage from 0 to 2 or 4 volts, and the excessive +voltage is removed by the resistors, which may vary with the motherboard +and with the voltage that is being sensed. +In +.Nm , +the required resistor factors are provided by +the motherboard manufacturer through +.Tn ACPI ; +in the native drivers, the resistor factors +are encoded into the driver based on the chip manufacturer's recommendations. +In essence, sensor values from +.Nm +are very likely to be identical to the readings from the +Hardware Monitor screen in the BIOS. +.It +Sensor descriptions from +.Nm +are more likely to match the markings on the motherboard. +.It +Sensor range specifications are supported by +.Nm . +The range specification is reported +for each individual sensor as suggested by the motherboard manufacturer. +For example, the threshold for the CPU temperature sensor is likely +to be significantly higher than that for the chassis temperature sensor. +.It +Support for newer chips in +.Nm . +Newer chips may miss a native driver, +but should be supported through +.Nm +regardless. +.El +.Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr sysctl 3 , +.Xr acpi 4 , +.Xr sysctl 8 +.Sh HISTORY +The +.Nm +driver first appeared in +.Ox 4.7 , +.Dx 2.5 , +.Nx 6.0 +and +.Fx 9.0 . +.Pp +An earlier version of the driver, +.Nm acpi_aiboost , +first appeared in +.Fx 7.0 +and +.Nx 5.0 . +.Sh AUTHORS +.An -nosplit +The +.Nm +driver was written for +.Ox , +.Dx , +.Nx +and +.Fx +by +.An Constantine A. Murenin Aq cnst@FreeBSD.org , +Raouf Boutaba Research Group, +David R. Cheriton School of Computer Science, +University of Waterloo. +.Pp +An earlier version of the driver, named +.Nm acpi_aiboost , +was written for +.Fx +by +.An Takanori Watanabe . Index: share/man/man4/Makefile =================================================================== --- share/man/man4/Makefile (revision 206151) +++ share/man/man4/Makefile (working copy) @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ ahc.4 \ ahci.4 \ ahd.4 \ + ${_aibs.4} \ aio.4 \ alc.4 \ ale.4 \ @@ -629,6 +630,7 @@ _acpi_sony.4= acpi_sony.4 _acpi_toshiba.4=acpi_toshiba.4 _acpi_wmi.4= acpi_wmi.4 +_aibs.4= aibs.4 _amdsbwd.4= amdsbwd.4 _amdsmb.4= amdsmb.4 _amdtemp.4= amdtemp.4 Index: sys/conf/files =================================================================== --- sys/conf/files (revision 206151) +++ sys/conf/files (working copy) @@ -416,6 +416,7 @@ dev/acpi_support/acpi_panasonic.c optional acpi_panasonic acpi dev/acpi_support/acpi_sony.c optional acpi_sony acpi dev/acpi_support/acpi_toshiba.c optional acpi_toshiba acpi +dev/acpi_support/atk0110.c optional aibs acpi dev/acpica/Osd/OsdDebug.c optional acpi dev/acpica/Osd/OsdHardware.c optional acpi dev/acpica/Osd/OsdInterrupt.c optional acpi Index: sys/modules/acpi/Makefile =================================================================== --- sys/modules/acpi/Makefile (revision 206151) +++ sys/modules/acpi/Makefile (working copy) @@ -6,6 +6,6 @@ SUBDIR+= acpi_aiboost acpi_asus acpi_fujitsu acpi_hp acpi_ibm \ acpi_panasonic acpi_sony acpi_toshiba acpi_video \ - acpi_dock acpi_wmi + acpi_dock acpi_wmi aibs .include Index: sys/modules/acpi/aibs/Makefile =================================================================== --- sys/modules/acpi/aibs/Makefile (revision 0) +++ sys/modules/acpi/aibs/Makefile (revision 0) @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +# $FreeBSD$ + +.PATH: ${.CURDIR}/../../../dev/acpi_support + +KMOD= aibs +SRCS= atk0110.c +SRCS+= opt_acpi.h acpi_if.h bus_if.h device_if.h +SRCS+= opt_ddb.h + +.include Index: sys/dev/acpi_support/atk0110.c =================================================================== --- sys/dev/acpi_support/atk0110.c (revision 0) +++ sys/dev/acpi_support/atk0110.c (revision 0) @@ -0,0 +1,366 @@ +/* $FreeBSD$ */ +/* $NetBSD: atk0110.c,v 1.4 2010/02/11 06:54:57 cnst Exp $ */ +/* $OpenBSD: atk0110.c,v 1.1 2009/07/23 01:38:16 cnst Exp $ */ + +/* + * Copyright (c) 2009/2010 Constantine A. Murenin + * + * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any + * purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above + * copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. + * + * THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES + * WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF + * MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE FOR + * ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES + * WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN + * ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF + * OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. + */ + +#include +__FBSDID("$FreeBSD$"); + +#include +#include +#include +#include +#include +#include +#include +#include + +#include +#include + +/* + * ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ASOC ATK0110). + * + * This code was originally written for OpenBSD after the techniques + * described in the Linux's asus_atk0110.c and FreeBSD's Takanori Watanabe's + * acpi_aiboost.c were verified to be accurate on the actual hardware kindly + * provided by Sam Fourman Jr. It was subsequently ported from OpenBSD to + * DragonFly BSD, to NetBSD's sysmon_envsys(9) and to FreeBSD's sysctl(9). + * + * -- Constantine A. Murenin + */ + +#define _COMPONENT ACPI_OEM +ACPI_MODULE_NAME("aibs"); +ACPI_SERIAL_DECL(aibs, "aibs"); + +#define AIBS_MORE_SENSORS +#define AIBS_VERBOSE + +enum aibs_type { + AIBS_VOLT, + AIBS_TEMP, + AIBS_FAN +}; + +struct aibs_sensor { + ACPI_INTEGER v; + ACPI_INTEGER i; + ACPI_INTEGER l; + ACPI_INTEGER h; + enum aibs_type t; +}; + +struct aibs_softc { + struct device *sc_dev; + ACPI_HANDLE sc_ah; + struct sysctl_oid *sc_sysctl_oid; + + struct aibs_sensor *sc_asens_volt; + struct aibs_sensor *sc_asens_temp; + struct aibs_sensor *sc_asens_fan; +}; + +static int aibs_probe(device_t); +static int aibs_attach(device_t); +static int aibs_detach(device_t); +static int aibs_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS); + +static void aibs_attach_sif(struct aibs_softc *, enum aibs_type); + +static device_method_t aibs_methods[] = { + DEVMETHOD(device_probe,aibs_probe), + DEVMETHOD(device_attach,aibs_attach), + DEVMETHOD(device_detach,aibs_detach), + { NULL, NULL } +}; + +static driver_t aibs_driver = { + "aibs", + aibs_methods, + sizeof(struct aibs_softc) +}; + +static devclass_t aibs_devclass; + +DRIVER_MODULE(aibs, acpi, aibs_driver, aibs_devclass, NULL, NULL); + + +static char* aibs_hids[] = { + "ATK0110", + NULL +}; + +static int +aibs_probe(device_t dev) +{ + if (acpi_disabled("aibs") || + ACPI_ID_PROBE(device_get_parent(dev), dev, aibs_hids) == NULL) + return ENXIO; + + device_set_desc(dev, "ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ASOC ATK0110)"); + return 0; +} + +static int +aibs_attach(device_t dev) +{ + struct aibs_softc *sc = device_get_softc(dev); + struct acpi_softc *acpi_sc = acpi_device_get_parent_softc(dev); + + sc->sc_dev = dev; + sc->sc_ah = acpi_get_handle(dev); + + /* add our tree to hw.acpi, similar to acpi_thermal(4) */ + sc->sc_sysctl_oid = SYSCTL_ADD_NODE(device_get_sysctl_ctx(dev), + SYSCTL_CHILDREN(acpi_sc->acpi_sysctl_tree), OID_AUTO, + device_get_nameunit(dev), CTLFLAG_RD, NULL, device_get_desc(dev)); + + aibs_attach_sif(sc, AIBS_VOLT); + aibs_attach_sif(sc, AIBS_TEMP); + aibs_attach_sif(sc, AIBS_FAN); + + return 0; +} + +static void +aibs_attach_sif(struct aibs_softc *sc, enum aibs_type st) +{ + ACPI_STATUS s; + ACPI_BUFFER b; + ACPI_OBJECT *bp, *o; + int i, n; + const char *node; + char name[] = "?SIF"; + struct aibs_sensor *as; + struct sysctl_oid *so; + + switch (st) { + case AIBS_VOLT: + node = "volt"; + name[0] = 'V'; + break; + case AIBS_TEMP: + node = "temp"; + name[0] = 'T'; + break; + case AIBS_FAN: + node = "fan"; + name[0] = 'F'; + break; + default: + return; + } + + b.Length = ACPI_ALLOCATE_BUFFER; + s = AcpiEvaluateObjectTyped(sc->sc_ah, name, NULL, &b, + ACPI_TYPE_PACKAGE); + if (ACPI_FAILURE(s)) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%s not found\n", name); + return; + } + + bp = b.Pointer; + o = bp->Package.Elements; + if (o[0].Type != ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%s[0]: invalid type\n", name); + AcpiOsFree(b.Pointer); + return; + } + + n = o[0].Integer.Value; + if (bp->Package.Count - 1 < n) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%s: invalid package\n", name); + AcpiOsFree(b.Pointer); + return; + } else if (bp->Package.Count - 1 > n) { + int on = n; + +#ifdef AIBS_MORE_SENSORS + n = bp->Package.Count - 1; +#endif + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%s: malformed package: %i/%i" + ", assume %i\n", name, on, bp->Package.Count - 1, n); + } + if (n < 1) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%s: no members in the package\n", + name); + AcpiOsFree(b.Pointer); + return; + } + + as = malloc(sizeof(*as) * n, M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT | M_ZERO); + if (as == NULL) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%s: malloc fail\n", name); + AcpiOsFree(b.Pointer); + return; + } + switch (st) { + case AIBS_VOLT: + sc->sc_asens_volt = as; + break; + case AIBS_TEMP: + sc->sc_asens_temp = as; + break; + case AIBS_FAN: + sc->sc_asens_fan = as; + break; + } + + /* sysctl subtree for sensors of this type */ + so = SYSCTL_ADD_NODE(device_get_sysctl_ctx(sc->sc_dev), + SYSCTL_CHILDREN(sc->sc_sysctl_oid), st, + node, CTLFLAG_RD, NULL, NULL); + + for (i = 0, o++; i < n; i++, o++) { + ACPI_OBJECT *oi; + char si[3]; + const char *desc; + + /* acpica5 automatically evaluates the referenced package */ + if(o[0].Type != ACPI_TYPE_PACKAGE) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, + "%s: %i: not a package: %i type\n", + name, i, o[0].Type); + continue; + } + oi = o[0].Package.Elements; + if (o[0].Package.Count != 5 || + oi[0].Type != ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER || + oi[1].Type != ACPI_TYPE_STRING || + oi[2].Type != ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER || + oi[3].Type != ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER || + oi[4].Type != ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER) { + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, + "%s: %i: invalid package\n", + name, i); + continue; + } + as[i].i = oi[0].Integer.Value; + desc = oi[1].String.Pointer; + as[i].l = oi[2].Integer.Value; + as[i].h = oi[3].Integer.Value; + as[i].t = st; +#ifdef AIBS_VERBOSE + device_printf(sc->sc_dev, "%c%i: " + "0x%08"PRIx64" %20s %5"PRIi64" / %5"PRIi64" " + "0x%"PRIx64"\n", + name[0], i, + as[i].i, desc, (int64_t)as[i].l, (int64_t)as[i].h, + oi[4].Integer.Value); +#endif + snprintf(si, sizeof(si), "%i", i); + SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(device_get_sysctl_ctx(sc->sc_dev), + SYSCTL_CHILDREN(so), i, si, CTLTYPE_OPAQUE | CTLFLAG_RD, + sc, st, aibs_sysctl, st == AIBS_TEMP ? "IK" : "I", desc); + } + + AcpiOsFree(b.Pointer); +} + +static int +aibs_detach(device_t dev) +{ + struct aibs_softc *sc = device_get_softc(dev); + + if (sc->sc_asens_volt != NULL) + free(sc->sc_asens_volt, M_DEVBUF); + if (sc->sc_asens_temp != NULL) + free(sc->sc_asens_temp, M_DEVBUF); + if (sc->sc_asens_fan != NULL) + free(sc->sc_asens_fan, M_DEVBUF); + return 0; +} + +#ifdef AIBS_VERBOSE +#define ddevice_printf(x...) device_printf(x) +#else +#define ddevice_printf(x...) +#endif + +static int +aibs_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS) +{ + struct aibs_softc *sc = arg1; + enum aibs_type st = arg2; + int i = oidp->oid_number; + ACPI_STATUS rs; + ACPI_OBJECT p, *bp; + ACPI_OBJECT_LIST mp; + ACPI_BUFFER b; + char *name; + struct aibs_sensor *as; + ACPI_INTEGER v, l, h; + int so[3]; + + switch (st) { + case AIBS_VOLT: + name = "RVLT"; + as = sc->sc_asens_volt; + break; + case AIBS_TEMP: + name = "RTMP"; + as = sc->sc_asens_temp; + break; + case AIBS_FAN: + name = "RFAN"; + as = sc->sc_asens_fan; + break; + default: + return ENOENT; + } + if (as == NULL) + return ENOENT; + l = as[i].l; + h = as[i].h; + p.Type = ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER; + p.Integer.Value = as[i].i; + mp.Count = 1; + mp.Pointer = &p; + b.Length = ACPI_ALLOCATE_BUFFER; + ACPI_SERIAL_BEGIN(aibs); + rs = AcpiEvaluateObjectTyped(sc->sc_ah, name, &mp, &b, + ACPI_TYPE_INTEGER); + if (ACPI_FAILURE(rs)) { + ddevice_printf(sc->sc_dev, + "%s: %i: evaluation failed\n", + name, i); + ACPI_SERIAL_END(aibs); + return EIO; + } + bp = b.Pointer; + v = bp->Integer.Value; + AcpiOsFree(b.Pointer); + ACPI_SERIAL_END(aibs); + + switch (st) { + case AIBS_VOLT: + break; + case AIBS_TEMP: + v += 2732; + l += 2732; + h += 2732; + break; + case AIBS_FAN: + break; + } + so[0] = v; + so[1] = l; + so[2] = h; + return sysctl_handle_opaque(oidp, &so, sizeof(so), req); +} Index: sys/i386/conf/NOTES =================================================================== --- sys/i386/conf/NOTES (revision 206151) +++ sys/i386/conf/NOTES (working copy) @@ -506,6 +506,9 @@ # ACPI Docking Station device acpi_dock +# ACPI ASOC ATK0110 ASUSTeK AI Booster (voltage, temperature and fan sensors) +device aibs + # The cpufreq(4) driver provides support for non-ACPI CPU frequency control device cpufreq --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 06:41:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BB1106564A for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaxo@mx.plaxo.com) Received: from mx.plaxo.com (mx.plaxo.com [204.15.240.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832548FC22 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 06:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([204.15.240.11]) by mx.plaxo.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.2(4.1.2-51177)); Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:41:51 -0700 X-VirtualServer: Pulse-NonMember, mx.plaxo.com, 10.1.6.61 X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::1-business-0-17179875679-0-20100404::2455787 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1oYXJkd2FyZUBmcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=plaxo; d=mx.plaxo.com; q=dns; b=Qyl4CODM0GXE/H9qjQW1OUCKjq+9zrEZz4EA463NGBnsvkSU/+cn49iNhqsSWMAjZ4qndiird3rSSMYQjVbyw4V2TXxLbvHE9PlsAp02a2bT4c9569rsj3bKfTTpiS6I DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.plaxo.com; s=plaxo; l=2673; t=1270449711; i=@mx.plaxo.com; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:X-VirtualServerGroup: X-PlaxoMailType:Reply-To:Errors-To:X-PlaxoMailID: List-Unsubscribe:Date:X-Mailer:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=BF6 hY4z6933u5wGT/2wk437xpn4=; b=I6LwTpD6IfLJx219ObfdT9ga9U7v1icb7KR ihWIEfb3/ct1m7cBsRsO3qPaEcLqfkK4S6E+dz6ApUZWMHJPDNf3fLO3VheH8J64 HQchzDFEmNoSgllx3HFN7xRM7F70q From: "Jonathan Gilpin" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-Id: X-VirtualServerGroup: Pulse-NonMember X-PlaxoMailType: Pulse-NonMember Errors-To: plaxo@mx.plaxo.com X-PlaxoMailID: 1-business-0-17179875679-0-20100404 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 23:41:51 -0700 X-Mailer: XPM4 v.0.3 < www.xpertmailer.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Jonathan Gilpin added you as a business connection on Plaxo X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jonathan@gilpin.org List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 06:41:51 -0000 Hi freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, Jonathan Gilpin wants to add you as a business connection on Plaxo. To accept this connection request, go to: http://www.plaxo.com/invite?lang=3Den&i=3D98672053&k=3D361749014&l=3Den&src=3D= email&et=3D1&est=3Dbusiness&etv=3Djan10a&el=3Den Thanks, The Plaxo team More than 20 million people use Plaxo to keep in touch with the people they care about.=20 Don't want to receive emails from Plaxo any more? Go to: http://www.plaxo.com/stop?src=3Demail&et=3D1&est=3Dbusiness&etv=3Djan10a&el=3D= en&email=3Dfreebsd-hardware%40freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 10:20:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDF8106564A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D0B8FC12; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6569400EB; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:20:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22F940194; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:20:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE0D33E4E; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE21CA1109; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:20:12 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Peter Jeremy , Dan Naumov Message-ID: <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Tim Judd , Jeremie Le Hen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:20:26 -0000 Hi Dan, Peter, Thank you for your enlightening replies. On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:40:35AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2010-Apr-04 23:54:55 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > >Yeah, you are right. I should have mentionned that I do not want > >necessarily a high-performance NAS, it's for home use so my premary > >concern is the low power consumption. This is why I want an Atom-based > >motherboard. > > Unfortunately, FreeBSD has some issues with low memory handling that > make FreeBSD/i386 a bad choice for ZFS. You would be far better off > running amd64 with as much RAM as you can fit onto the board. (And > this is one case where you want amd64 even if you don't have >4GB RAM). > Note that this doesn't mean you can't use an Atom - some Atoms include > EM64T - you just need to check. > > IMO, the biggest disadvantage of using an Atom in a ZFS NAS is the > lack of ECC support on the Atom. ZFS can detect bitflips in the > I/O sustem but you can still get screwed by a bitflip in RAM. > > >I'm still not sure about which motherboard to buy actually. After some > >additional reading, my leaning seems to go towards Intel's one as it is > >less expensive and consumes half the power of the Zotac's one (13W with > >a HDD [2] vs. 25W [3]). > > I'd recommend against buying anything with the Atom combined with a 945. > Whilst the Atom is low-power, the 945 isn't. That is also an older > motherboard using an older, superseded Atom. I suggest you look for > motherboards built around the new Pinetrail Atoms (which _do_ support > EM46T and hence can run amd64). > > Supermicro make a number of potentially suitable boards: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA.cfm > this is pricier but supports remote management - other options at: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/ > > If you want an Intel MB, search for BOXD510MO I think I will go for the Supermicro X7SPA-H. It seems a better hardware although it consumes more power. Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they worked :). Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? Would an Intel board would compensate for this? Dan, have you ever experienced weird problems that could be explained by bitflips? For the records, I've found an interesting and very recent post about someone running OpenSolaris on this Supermicro motherboard [1]. He uses a thumbdrive for the operating system and with four drives connected onto it, the whole system sucks 41 watts when idle (27 without any HDD, which is twice as the Intel D945GSE, but I guess this is the price for better performance). Now, it seems that OpenSolaris unfortunately has some problems with this hardware, but according to Dan, FreeBSD runs correctly on it. Thanks again for your help. Regards, [1] http://sorenragsdale.livejournal.com/19875.html -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 10:25:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6EF106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sukhoy@iruno.ripn.net) Received: from iruno.ripn.net (iruno.ripn.net [194.226.71.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE928FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sukhoy by iruno.ripn.net with esmtp (RIPN) id 1NyjKU-000M6K-2N for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:14:50 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Pavel Sukhoy To: Message-ID: <6c47a18980be7b142caf21687269629f@ripn.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:14:50 +0400 Subject: virtual usb drive mounting error X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:25:03 -0000 Hi All, I hope it's a right place to ask, if no, please advice right mailing list. I'm trying to install freebsd remotely by "Intel remote management module 2". My server is based on intel S5000PAL motherboard and have dedicated remote management module. If I try to boot from remotely mounted drive/iso it goes fine until I choose installation media - in messages I see a read error. If I try to mount remote drive on working FreeBSD - I see that virtual device recognized fine, but gets error when trying to mount: Remotely connecting iso: 12:53:33 kernel: umass3: on usbus4 12:53:33 kernel: umass3: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 12:53:34 kernel: umass3:3:3:-1: Attached to scbus3 12:53:35 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim3:3:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 12:53:35 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim3:3:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error 12:53:35 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim3:3:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition 12:53:35 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim3:3:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 12:53:35 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim3:3:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred 12:53:35 kernel: (probe0:umass-sim3:3:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) 12:53:35 kernel: cd3 at umass-sim3 bus 3 target 0 lun 0 12:53:35 kernel: cd3: Removable CD- ROM SCSI-3 device 12:53:35 kernel: cd3: 40.000MB/s transfers 12:53:35 kernel: cd3: cd present [1058112 x 2048 byte records] And now I trying to mount it: 12:54:20 kernel: g_vfs_done():cd3[READ(offset=32768, length=2048)]error = 5 Has anyone else seen similar problems? Thanks in advance for any help. -- With best regards, Pavel Sukhoy. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 14:02:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C904B106564A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265468FC0C; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2977898bwz.3 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a0v0spvbIfs7wkXuPLEu2IKqeg+kBTB9UbDcpkrZhM0=; b=u8G9r5jmJniFk4JrtgF7hATIaw3nb0i8JKEAtyZbrdVwDg+fjs8gYgze9maCbSyDl+ +729t9RuRijBea50a9Qk485FcLbV0/Wr0Dt2EV2o/oznOMEqG00PiP/0QFeomUTogKQH gZLv4mSfMc/Al8yZbb5YkhQdWAfdzVemQTfJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U9hIohjni1f9SIqpS6pNyYTUAZ+XSRbB4f8BouSpvcYzcRLnBC7h/EPK0xMBYtFXm3 Yruub5g3VubZ0yJA3hmBTrBnnLnG4TJlvwnxK6lpLEdXcAKKm9sKTHLoqsMhG36wqdvW s1mhyRMPxEey4tAuCeufCsffW/fG9BXh3H/Lo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.203 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:02:13 +0300 Received: by 10.204.75.35 with SMTP id w35mr6398511bkj.194.1270476133182; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Jeremie Le Hen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:02:15 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. > Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they > worked :). =A0Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? =A0Wou= ld > an Intel board would compensate for this? =A0Dan, have you ever > experienced weird problems that could be explained by bitflips? Personally, I haven't had any issues, but then again on the ZFS scale of things, both my current pool size (2 TB) and projected pool size when I add more disks (6 TB) is pretty small. If this was a heavily used machine with a 10 TB pool or bigger, I would definately give strong consideration to ECC. > For the records, I've found an interesting and very recent post about > someone running OpenSolaris on this Supermicro motherboard [1]. =A0He use= s > a thumbdrive for the operating system and with four drives connected > onto it, the whole system sucks 41 watts when idle (27 without any HDD, > which is twice as the Intel D945GSE The power draw (from the wall) for the Supermicro X7SPA-H without any disks attached is as following: 26W - During boot. 24W - IDLE at console 28W - Full load This is with a 80+ rated Corsair 400CX PSU. Sadly, I did not have the opportunity to measure the power draw with powerd enabled. The D945GSE is unsuitable for use as a ZFS NAS due to it's severe feature limitations when compared against the X7SPA-H, of biggest concern would be the limitation of RAM, followed by the amount of native SATA ports, followed by the fact that you only get a PCI-E x1 (both physical formfactor and speed-wise) slot for expansion, while most controller cards are either 4x or 8x, meaning they simply wouldn't physically fit into the slot. Singlecore 1,6Ghz Diamondville Atom VS Dualcore 1,66Ghz Pineview Atom 1 RAM socket supporting a max of 1GB VS 2 RAM sockets supporting a max of 4GB (note that X7SPA-H uses SO-DIMMs, not regular DIMMs) 2 SATA ports vs 6 SATA ports 1 Realtec NIC vs 2 x Intel NIC PCI-E x1 Slot VS PCI-E x4 Slot (in x16 form factor) for expansion - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 15:24:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4F2106566C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920648FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.36.44) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4BB326E40081B9AB for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:24:49 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o35FOiYQ086457 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:24:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4BBA00BC.6040809@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:24:44 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100402 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Support for Intel SRCSASJV X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:24:51 -0000 Hello. Is the SAS controller in subject supported? To what level? Can it just run? Is there management software available? Can at least RAID status be checked? I'd like to run a RAID5 on that. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 20:25:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CC51065670 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f199.google.com (mail-pz0-f199.google.com [209.85.222.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74C08FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37so3564786pzk.7 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:25:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wg/hc0lShjFm0imnhYBM9G/5joUpXg4yby34ZGYXPTo=; b=vG5KaCywcnd44XzWesYBZDbtGslJS+iOFZ0HVQNbBYIiDHnTldSSDhfdC4VvFaFUI7 RRoUBCCn6eZPFxucDhqH1mXELVq4/n3Pdyi5D2fORu/GR+oyZnYonDKGEmjkmw7EW9nr G4GSB2KAbNy9FpARktqrtf1o6mv6Fn/dLT3uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=A0c4rERW3qvFzjg41vw+CXwfW1MnkeZ3jUzoIIToKcK26fUV43RuHLUvo0by5/3Npp AQMZ/JQXcxqE7EcduCdfItzyyQKLbBgEE43tp1rrdWcN7kvohDSaKaxbQ84VAOUWwhoN Sv1iErnN4pK42h0iFwc5WKvefp+82KAPV+AJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.148.20 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BBA00BC.6040809@netfence.it> References: <4BBA00BC.6040809@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:54:38 -0700 Received: by 10.141.90.2 with SMTP id s2mr4255713rvl.273.1270497278615; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Xin LI To: Andrea Venturoli Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Intel SRCSASJV X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:25:04 -0000 On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > Is the SAS controller in subject supported? > To what level? > Can it just run? > Is there management software available? > Can at least RAID status be checked? > > I'd like to run a RAID5 on that. I think it was LSI 1078 (mfi(4)?) ? I don't have my hands on the hardware though, if you have the hardware consider giving us a feedback, thanks! Cheers, -- Xin LI http://www.delphij.net From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 21:34:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAE11065672; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8BA8FC22; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 21:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-253-149.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.253.149]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o35LY7sA012308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:09 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o35LY6xr044391; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o35LY5E0044390; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:05 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Jeremie Le Hen Message-ID: <20100405213404.GA44109@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-CMAE-Score: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 21:34:13 -0000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2010-Apr-05 12:20:12 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: >Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. >Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they >worked :). Not really. Most early computers had fairly extensive error detecting hardware. Early microprocessors didn't because the novelty of getting an entire on a CPU on a chip was enough. Most 486 based PCs supported parity RAM but maufacturers and end-users found they could save pennies by leaving the parity bits off. ECC support was a requirement for building servers with microprocessors and some support has trickled down to the desktop. It hasn't been really popular because wider memory costs more and most people want the fastest, cheapest system possible to make their games render faster. Occasional glitches don't matter. With the current generation of CPUs, Intel appear to have made a marketing decision to not support ECC on their desktop CPUs - if you want ECC, you need to user a server-grade CPU (with a much greater profit margin). AMD have gone the other way and have have ECC support in all their x64 chips except mobile ones. You are still at the mercy of motherboard manufacturers who decide to not include the tracks between the DIMM sockets and the CPU. > Do you really think it might happen to be a problem? There's no way to know. Definitely, the added error checking in ZFS have resulted in a number of "ZFS kept reporting errors and I found I actually had bad hardware even though I've been using it for years" reports. > Would an Intel board would compensate for this? No. The memory controller is embedded in the Atom and doesn't support ECC. If you decide to go the ECC path, you need to pick a different CPU. --=20 Peter Jeremy --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku6V0wACgkQ/opHv/APuIc7rwCgtGJTBH/KLDxbx7OoDl7LhDdA OmMAn1CISDdxUcvzap7y+GGckmRDIOx/ =h9ys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 22:51:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFDA106566B for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4A48FC15 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o35MdSbD004555; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:39:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:39:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201004052239.o35MdSbD004555@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:51:38 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 5 16:34:40 2010 > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:34:05 +1000 > From: Peter Jeremy > To: Jeremie Le Hen > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with > nVidia ION chipset) > > > --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On 2010-Apr-05 12:20:12 +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > >Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. > >Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they > >worked :). > > Not really. Most early computers had fairly extensive error detecting > hardware. Depends on what machines you're talking about. One fairly well-known supe-r computer class architecture from the mid 1960s ran without *any* error checking in the CPU *or* main memory. Dr. Seymour Cray analyzed things and concluded the significant extra component count for just doing 'parity' checking, let alone ECC made for a net _reduction_ in overall system reliability, *IF* the machine was run under very tightly controlled operating conditions -- the big ones being extremely stable power and a very limited temperature range. So, he specified the design to tight tolerances, and ran truely 'naked' hardward. Scary, but true. And, it worked. This was also a machine where, at any given moment, a fair part of the data in the CPU was 'in the wires' ("in transit" from one part of the CPU to another), and significant parts of the wiring harness had to be of _just_the_right_length_ (speed-of-light considerations) for the box to work. Incidentally, this computer COULD NOT ADD two numbers together. Literally!! It performed addition by 'complement and subtract'. Yeah, it -sounds- silly, but there were valid architectural reasons for it. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 07:50:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1BF106564A; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44D8FC13; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o367oijP000899 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o367oih8000898; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10689; Tue, 6 Apr 10 00:44:30 PDT Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:43:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com Message-Id: <4bbae638.iyl/bH7Z3/uADuhd%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201004052239.o35MdSbD004555@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201004052239.o35MdSbD004555@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:50:49 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: > One fairly well-known super computer class architecture from the > mid 1960s ran without *any* error checking in the CPU *or* main > memory. Dr. Seymour Cray analyzed things and concluded the > significant extra component count for just doing 'parity' > checking, let alone ECC made for a net _reduction_ in overall > system reliability, *IF* the machine was run under very tightly > controlled operating conditions -- the big ones being extremely > stable power and a very limited temperature range. So, he > specified the design to tight tolerances, and ran truely 'naked' > hardward. Scary, but true. And, it worked. CDC-6600 and/or 7600, I presume? The flaw in that reasoning is that, while an unchecked machine may indeed be faster and/or have a somewhat better MTBF, the symptom of a failure may well be silently incorrect results. If reliable production results are what's valued, as opposed to time between detected failures while running diagnostics*, a checked or corrected design wins hands down. > This was also a machine where, at any given moment, a fair part > of the data in the CPU was 'in the wires' ("in transit" from one > part of the CPU to another), and significant parts of the wiring > harness had to be of _just_the_right_length_ (speed-of-light > considerations) for the box to work. Second- (or third?) hand war story from the manufacturing dept: Occasionally the instructions would call for pin so-and-so to be connected to pin thus-and-such with, say, a 6" wire -- when the pins in question were 8" apart! The source of the story claimed that the standard practice in such cases was to use the shortest wire that would reach, and let the QA dept worry about the fallout. * A diagnostic is a program that runs when the hardware is malfunctioning -- R. F. Rosin. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 10:41:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B558106568A; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3598FC08; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so714fxm.3 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 03:41:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=6D6/db6AEEdJoj2oD3owoB8R5tHTWAeH69acl1dQDI0=; b=jAzw+xwT8tLVFqoOrG/E27iGAUiwssFFsyhIoHwHZFHYhRl9/5y1KTcGRnmcmdZJpn pz8mvgbBaWyS//bLe7eSenwqKmIR5hT3Ld8py4V0L+Ub/I8vKTUsjScAiy93PyQKQMPc yj/c9FUoVkUXIT78+uXb7t8krZkwfSoeQtSxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=MJVHlobxfNphkND2DVsRRwOY8CBcJVmF2TmbmyK9r03bz0kwd5jVMlaxJ1lHelasG0 uVO+isJ9gonFHg5joO7BPsJwZvFuqqA4SpaCZRSR9pBvVdRzzQTPFWA/JwImJX2S5fvc zoV6h3PoX5JQ2vnIPboOty4ha1+K8InOjQokM= Received: by 10.223.15.65 with SMTP id j1mr6952381faa.0.1270548862159; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 03:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.2] (54.81.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt [77.54.81.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z15sm196775fkz.51.2010.04.06.03.14.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Apr 2010 03:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Rui Paulo Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Rui Paulo In-Reply-To: <20100405055947.GA3544@hita.home.const.name> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:14:19 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20100405055947.GA3544@hita.home.const.name> To: Constantine A. Murenin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-drivers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: aibs(4): ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ATK0110) Hardware Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:41:11 -0000 Hi, On 5 Apr 2010, at 06:59, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > Dear freebsd-{acpi,drivers,hardware}@,=20 >=20 > Attached patch provides support for the hardware monitoring = capabilities that are present in many modern desktop motherboards from = ASUS featuring the ATK0110 ACPI device.=20 >=20 > This driver, aibs(4), is a fresh replacement for FreeBSD's existing = acpi_aiboost(4). The new aibs(4) driver has the following advantages = when compared to the old acpi_aiboost(4):=20 > * the sensors are now provided through the user-serviceable = hw.acpi.aibs0 tree (with a subtree for each sensor type), instead of = the Newbus-internal dev.acpi_aiboost.0 tree that contains various = nonprime data at the same level as the actual sensors=20 I was under the impression that this the right way in FreeBSD. Regards, -- Rui Paulo From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 14:03:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AD6106566C; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116688FC1D; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o36Dlaiw010793; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:47:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:43:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20100406.074313.364718154403381345.imp@bsdimp.com> To: rpaulo@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20100405055947.GA3544@hita.home.const.name> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org, cnst@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aibs(4): ASUSTeK AI Booster (ACPI ATK0110) Hardware Monitor X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:03:31 -0000 In message: Rui Paulo writes: : Hi, : : On 5 Apr 2010, at 06:59, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: : : > Dear freebsd-{acpi,drivers,hardware}@, : > : > Attached patch provides support for the hardware monitoring capabilities that are present in many modern desktop motherboards from ASUS featuring the ATK0110 ACPI device. : > : > This driver, aibs(4), is a fresh replacement for FreeBSD's existing acpi_aiboost(4). The new aibs(4) driver has the following advantages when compared to the old acpi_aiboost(4): : > * the sensors are now provided through the user-serviceable hw.acpi.aibs0 tree (with a subtree for each sensor type), instead of the Newbus-internal dev.acpi_aiboost.0 tree that contains various nonprime data at the same level as the actual sensors : : I was under the impression that this the right way in FreeBSD. To be clear, this is a regression. They should be through the dev tree. We've been migrating exposed functionality from the hw. tree to the dev. tree for quite some time now. hw. isn't any more user-serviceable than dev. is. 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Check them out: http://texugauto.com/r2u3vv0o From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 20:59:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE1106566B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4918FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7534940139; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E2194004B; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA5433E4E; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B500A1159; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:59:21 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100406205921.GH37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Jeremie Le Hen Subject: Re: SuperMicro X7SPA (was: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:59:31 -0000 Hi, -->>> Please Cc: me when replyig, as I'm not subscribed. <<<-- On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:02:13PM +0300, Dan Naumov wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > > Nonetheless I'm a little worried by what you said about the lack of ECC. > > Computers has been used for years before ECC came out and obviously they > > worked :).  Do you really think it might happen to be a problem?  Would > > an Intel board would compensate for this?  Dan, have you ever > > experienced weird problems that could be explained by bitflips? > > Personally, I haven't had any issues, but then again on the ZFS scale > of things, both my current pool size (2 TB) and projected pool size > when I add more disks (6 TB) is pretty small. If this was a heavily > used machine with a 10 TB pool or bigger, I would definately give > strong consideration to ECC. > > > For the records, I've found an interesting and very recent post about > > someone running OpenSolaris on this Supermicro motherboard [1].  He uses > > a thumbdrive for the operating system and with four drives connected > > onto it, the whole system sucks 41 watts when idle (27 without any HDD, > > which is twice as the Intel D945GSE > > The power draw (from the wall) for the Supermicro X7SPA-H without any > disks attached is as following: > > 26W - During boot. > 24W - IDLE at console > 28W - Full load > > This is with a 80+ rated Corsair 400CX PSU. Sadly, I did not have the > opportunity to measure the power draw with powerd enabled. The D945GSE > is unsuitable for use as a ZFS NAS due to it's severe feature > limitations when compared against the X7SPA-H, of biggest concern > would be the limitation of RAM, followed by the amount of native SATA > ports, followed by the fact that you only get a PCI-E x1 (both > physical formfactor and speed-wise) slot for expansion, while most > controller cards are either 4x or 8x, meaning they simply wouldn't > physically fit into the slot. > > Singlecore 1,6Ghz Diamondville Atom VS Dualcore 1,66Ghz Pineview Atom > 1 RAM socket supporting a max of 1GB VS 2 RAM sockets supporting a max > of 4GB (note that X7SPA-H uses SO-DIMMs, not regular DIMMs) > 2 SATA ports vs 6 SATA ports > 1 Realtec NIC vs 2 x Intel NIC > PCI-E x1 Slot VS PCI-E x4 Slot (in x16 form factor) for expansion I would finally like to buy a SuperMicro X7SPA-H motherboard. Unfortunately it seems very difficult to find this product in France or even in Europe. Either it is not in the catalog or not in stock. I tried to purchase it from a US website, but shipping fees are very high for Europe, around the half of the price of the product itself. Does anyone know a website that would ship this product in France for a reasonable price? Thanks for your help. -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:22:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A556106564A for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from rack.patpro.net (rack.patpro.net [193.30.227.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178E48FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rack.patpro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rack.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD35760E; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:22:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at patpro.net Received: from amavis-at-patpro.net ([127.0.0.1]) by rack.patpro.net (rack.patpro.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1FH3cTh7rZ2o; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rack.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-223943998; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Patrick Proniewski In-Reply-To: <20100406205921.GH37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:21:59 +0200 Message-Id: References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100406205921.GH37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> To: Jeremie Le Hen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SuperMicro X7SPA (was: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:22:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-223943998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 6 avr. 2010, at 22:59, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > I would finally like to buy a SuperMicro X7SPA-H motherboard. > Unfortunately it seems very difficult to find this product in France or > even in Europe. Either it is not in the catalog or not in stock. > I tried to purchase it from a US website, but shipping fees are very > high for Europe, around the half of the price of the product itself. > > Does anyone know a website that would ship this product in France for a > reasonable price? did you check http://www.ahead-it.eu/ ? patpro --Apple-Mail-1-223943998-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 6 21:45:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FED91065675 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremie@le-hen.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C868FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205939400B2; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:45:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (tataz.chchile.org [82.233.239.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457B0940005; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CDC33E4E; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 239E8A1159; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:45:08 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Patrick Proniewski Message-ID: <20100406214507.GI37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100406205921.GH37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Jeremie Le Hen , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SuperMicro X7SPA (was: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:45:17 -0000 Hi Patrick, On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:21:59PM +0200, Patrick Proniewski wrote: > On 6 avr. 2010, at 22:59, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > > > I would finally like to buy a SuperMicro X7SPA-H motherboard. > > Unfortunately it seems very difficult to find this product in France or > > even in Europe. Either it is not in the catalog or not in stock. > > I tried to purchase it from a US website, but shipping fees are very > > high for Europe, around the half of the price of the product itself. > > > > Does anyone know a website that would ship this product in France for a > > reasonable price? > > did you check http://www.ahead-it.eu/ ? Thanks for you quick answer. Unfortunately, they have this board in their catalog but they do not have it in stock as many other websites I've found. I'm going to contact them nonetheless to know if they can give me an estimation. Regards, -- Jeremie Le Hen Humans are born free and equal. But some are more equal than others. Coluche From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 03:36:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7811065675 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00EF8FC1A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2QKG1e0041c6gX85ATcdAZ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:36:37 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2TgW1e0083S48mS3jTgXaM; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:40:31 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4BF109B419; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:36:35 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100407033635.GA31965@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Looking for Supermicro distributors X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:36:38 -0000 Hi! First off, sorry for cross-posting, but in this case I need somewhat of a broader audience. This is the first time I've ever asked for something like this, so I'm a bit shy. If end-users have other ideas on how I can go about this, I'm all ears. I'm looking for any Supermicro hardware distributors that linger on the mailing lists here. I know I've talked at least two of you in the past, so I'm certain you're out there, but I've lost your names/Email addresses. Simple version: I need hardware, or access to systems running hardware, for me to continue enhancing bsdhwmon (yep, I'm actively working on it again!). Finding users in the community who have all these different boards is tedious, and sometimes there are frustrations that come about since many of their systems are in production. Providing me hardware: - You send me a mainboard (I have all the other components), either new or used. Please include all accessories, as the board will end up on a bare workbench and not mounted in a case. - I can provide collateral (full retail cost) up front, assuming you credit my CC when you receive the hardware back. - You pay shipping costs to me, I pay shipping costs back. - Any boards which don't work after receiving them from me I have no problem paying full cost for. (Please don't try to scam me. :P) Providing me remote access: - System should be running FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE or newer (not CURRENT) - SSH + root-level access (sudo is fine) - Serial console access (specifically to the BIOS) would be absolutely perfect. Otherwise I need you to write down a bunch of stuff in the Hardware Monitoring section of the BIOS (only once). - System shouldn't be production -- for example, I just got an X7SBL-LN2 board myself, and while adding support for it to bsdhwmon, I managed to tickle the Winbond chip in such a way that during the next system reboot, the Winbond internal buzzer/alarm went off until the system was power-cycled (not hard reset). I'm fairly sure smbmsg(8)'s -p flag caused this (I've reached out to jhb@ about the bugs). What you get out of it: - Not really sure, but we can work something out. I've 2 or 3 different ideas which might suit you, depending on your above role. Worth noting is that I *do* purchase Supermicro hardware for use in my co-lo, and I haven't settled on a single vendor yet (tend to pick and choose depending on cost vs. what's in stock vs. shipping time). Development usually takes me 1-2 months (depends on what's going on with my full-time job, and how fast Supermicro can get back to me with technical details). Please get in contact with me (freebsd@jdc.parodius.com) if you're interested in helping, otherwise I'll reach out to some local distributors and see if they're willing. Thank you! -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 03:49:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877591065674; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549508FC14; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 03:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so603080pwi.13 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rPwF+xVztPSkHfyZcpGXahdX5jx6PDyjNeV3fbrL15k=; b=MlCdEvIQQjApnrl3cYhDbryT4i3dg0xdbgGVGm02dlo/PG8cPurGFs604DFXuqm5ST QbEUupvJB3KOgG6x64VG1it9gqBHv4UEHwArxTd+iDzpGwcD8iVebmqPQVusymfIK4lt hhXzodt5OpmBNJqGO1Cues8BUfZd0utSC81C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xs974f+x2zY5Hy7qwR+/3C5Yc6J+QNUNdnuDBGGaJx0cpaDkPTtBGTIy7olXTEzPYA Qqk2ptfLP+tk1X+4xmRpJymr7lqYbUV51gwjqg7No7Pj5+Pt8iz2SwmZBwFFufG9Ijpr nY8FChYnzcXZfdaKpvr8382pUcfm/1hSAHL7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.34.1 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100407033635.GA31965@icarus.home.lan> References: <20100407033635.GA31965@icarus.home.lan> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:49:00 -0500 Received: by 10.143.27.3 with SMTP id e3mr3168800wfj.224.1270612140786; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Jeremy Chadwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for Supermicro distributors X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 03:49:01 -0000 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Hi! > > First off, sorry for cross-posting, but in this case I need somewhat of > a broader audience. =A0This is the first time I've ever asked for > something like this, so I'm a bit shy. =A0If end-users have other ideas > on how I can go about this, I'm all ears. > > I'm looking for any Supermicro hardware distributors that linger on the > mailing lists here. =A0I know I've talked at least two of you in the past= , > so I'm certain you're out there, but I've lost your names/Email > addresses. As long as this thread is already started, I will jump on board. :) Our company too is looking for Supermicro distributors. feel free to email me off list. Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 04:50:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7819C1065672 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from rack.patpro.net (rack.patpro.net [193.30.227.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0546C8FC19 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rack.patpro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rack.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5BD59E; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:50:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at patpro.net Received: from amavis-at-patpro.net ([127.0.0.1]) by rack.patpro.net (rack.patpro.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VHlRkBIhdH8R; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rack.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: Patrick Proniewski To: Jeremie Le Hen In-Reply-To: <20100406214507.GI37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-250851330; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:50:27 +0200 References: <20100404082033.GW40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100404215455.GZ40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100405004034.GB2915@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20100405102012.GA40253@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100406205921.GH37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> <20100406214507.GI37541@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SuperMicro X7SPA (was: Intel D945GSE vs Zotac ION ITX (was: Support for Zotac MB with nVidia ION chipset)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:50:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5-250851330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, On 06 avr. 2010, at 23:45, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: >> did you check http://www.ahead-it.eu/ ? > > Thanks for you quick answer. Unfortunately, they have this board in > their catalog but they do not have it in stock as many other websites > I've found. I'm going to contact them nonetheless to know if they can > give me an estimation. Last time I asked for a 1U server they wouldn't have in stock, they told me it could ship in 5-10 days. Not that bad ;) patpro --Apple-Mail-5-250851330-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 07:21:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F0E106564A; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5C48FC17; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB4A2079DB2; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id V2dmSzNESZXa; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F66F2079DA1; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B78A68D3B457; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 62aP-t+qkYvx; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 525BA68CAAEDE; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:54:14 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100407065414.GA17691@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <20100407033635.GA31965@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: Looking for Supermicro distributors X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:21:06 -0000 On Tue, Apr 06, 2010, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Chadwick > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> First off, sorry for cross-posting, but in this case I need somewhat of >> a broader audience.  This is the first time I've ever asked for >> something like this, so I'm a bit shy.  If end-users have other ideas >> on how I can go about this, I'm all ears. We do a fair amount of business with Silicon Mechanics of Bothell Washington. I don't know how much they do with freebsd as most of our work with them involves Linux, but they have been competent and provide excellent support. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. -- Will Rogers From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 14:05:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1651A1065672 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6F18FC1C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (unknown [10.69.0.2]) (Authenticated sender: vvelox) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABA1B82C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:46:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:50:18 -0500 From: "Zane C. B." To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20100407085018.2496480c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: USB touch screens X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:05:31 -0000 Has any one had much luck with USB touch screens? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 18:51:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829FE106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558DB8FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E597C46B1A; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 087938A025; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:51:40 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:48:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> <4BB95EA8.7030200@fragfest.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4BB95EA8.7030200@fragfest.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004071448.39658.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:51:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Dean Hamstead , S Roberts Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:51:41 -0000 On Sunday 04 April 2010 11:53:12 pm Dean Hamstead wrote: > Despite Nvidia's promise to update the driver for amd64 when 8.0 was > released, this has yet to happen. > > You should abuse them politely in their forums. Huh? The beta amd64 driver has been available for months (and I've been using it on my primary desktop in 7.x for months). http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148959 -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 20:38:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8918106566C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFDE8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nzc0n-0003iu-0J; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:38:09 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:39:19 +0100 From: S Roberts To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20100407213919.00001c0d@unknown> In-Reply-To: <201004071448.39658.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> <4BB95EA8.7030200@fragfest.com.au> <201004071448.39658.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Dean Hamstead , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:38:11 -0000 Hi John, On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:48:39 -0400 John Baldwin wrote: > On Sunday 04 April 2010 11:53:12 pm Dean Hamstead wrote: > > Despite Nvidia's promise to update the driver for amd64 when 8.0 > > was released, this has yet to happen. > > > > You should abuse them politely in their forums. > > Huh? The beta amd64 driver has been available for months (and I've > been using it on my primary desktop in 7.x for months). > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148959 > Glad to see that post from you.., Do you mind commenting whether or not the instructions there are good to go, or whether or not there were any "gotchas" or the like, please? Thanks. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 20:49:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA3D106564A; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FD18FC14; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A4499.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.68.153]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o37KnTMQ095324; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:49:30 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o37KnWGv015417; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:49:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o37KnMb4010106; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:49:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201004072049.o37KnMb4010106@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Zane C. B." From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:50:18 CDT." <20100407085018.2496480c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:49:22 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB touch screens X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:49:33 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: "Zane C. B." > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:50:18 -0500 > Message-id: <20100407085018.2496480c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> "Zane C. B." wrote freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org: > Has any one had much luck with USB touch screens? I see you also asked here: > From: "Zane C. B." > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:09:26 -0500 (16:09 CEST) > To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > Subject: USB touch screens There's a thread been active a week or so: > Message-id: <20100407091709.3836745e@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> > Subject: Re: usb touch screen support? > From: Vulpes Velox > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:17:09 -0500 (16:17 CEST) > To: Norikatsu Shigemura > Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text, Not HTML quoted-printable Base64 http://www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 21:04:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F63106564A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5F8FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8C5D46B29; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 664D08A01F; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:04:33 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: S Roberts Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:03:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> <201004071448.39658.jhb@freebsd.org> <20100407213919.00001c0d@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100407213919.00001c0d@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201004071703.41458.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:04:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Dean Hamstead , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:04:36 -0000 On Wednesday 07 April 2010 4:39:19 pm S Roberts wrote: > Hi John, > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:48:39 -0400 > John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Sunday 04 April 2010 11:53:12 pm Dean Hamstead wrote: > > > Despite Nvidia's promise to update the driver for amd64 when 8.0 > > > was released, this has yet to happen. > > > > > > You should abuse them politely in their forums. > > > > Huh? The beta amd64 driver has been available for months (and I've > > been using it on my primary desktop in 7.x for months). > > > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148959 > > > > Glad to see that post from you.., > > Do you mind commenting whether or not the instructions there are good > to go, or whether or not there were any "gotchas" or the like, please? No, it just works fine. I think the x11/nvidia-driver port might even be updated to use this driver on amd64 already. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 7 21:51:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E47106567A; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5208FC26; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nzd9y-00038N-DI; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:51:42 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 22:52:53 +0100 From: S Roberts To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20100407225253.0000411e@unknown> In-Reply-To: <201004071703.41458.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> <201004071448.39658.jhb@freebsd.org> <20100407213919.00001c0d@unknown> <201004071703.41458.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Dean Hamstead , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:51:45 -0000 Hi John, On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:03:41 -0400 John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 07 April 2010 4:39:19 pm S Roberts wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:48:39 -0400 > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 04 April 2010 11:53:12 pm Dean Hamstead wrote: > > > > Despite Nvidia's promise to update the driver for amd64 when 8.0 > > > > was released, this has yet to happen. > > > > > > > > You should abuse them politely in their forums. > > > > > > Huh? The beta amd64 driver has been available for months (and > > > I've been using it on my primary desktop in 7.x for months). > > > > > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=148959 > > > > > > > Glad to see that post from you.., > > > > Do you mind commenting whether or not the instructions there are > > good to go, or whether or not there were any "gotchas" or the like, > > please? > > No, it just works fine. I think the x11/nvidia-driver port might > even be updated to use this driver on amd64 already. > I just checked (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/) and it does indeed appear to already be included. Excellent! Thanks again, John. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 00:15:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236E5106564A for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dean@fragfest.com.au) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916A78FC17 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.29.0.131] (c122-106-173-63.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.173.63]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o3A0FHum014375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:15:18 +1000 Message-ID: <4BBFC315.6070101@fragfest.com.au> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:15:17 +1000 From: Dean Hamstead User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: S Roberts References: <20100405025842.00002be5@unknown> <201004071448.39658.jhb@freebsd.org> <20100407213919.00001c0d@unknown> <201004071703.41458.jhb@freebsd.org> <20100407225253.0000411e@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100407225253.0000411e@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD amd64 - Which nvidia driver for NVIDIA GeForce G210M? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:15:22 -0000 > > I just checked > (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/) and it > does indeed appear to already be included. glad to be wrong! Dean From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:22:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8258106566B for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24228FC16 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O0fKP-0008Nh-Qt; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:46 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:22:46 +0100 From: S Roberts To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Subject: Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN Supported on FreeBSD-8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:22:47 -0000 Hello, The wireless nic on my laptop is the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN. Is this card supported in FreeBSD as present? I checked the FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes (at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), and I don't see the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN actually listed. Looking at the online manpage for iwn, it is actually titled "Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN IEEE 802.11n driver", but then again, I also noted that that manpage is timestamped April 13, 2008 and is tagged for FreeBSD-7.2. I'd some help, please. Thanks. Regards, S Roberts From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:51:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11229106566C for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from mailout04.t-online.de (mailout04.t-online.de [194.25.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E818FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de (fwd04.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1O0fX2-0000Mz-7X; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:35:48 +0200 Received: from unknown (EfbPxMZcYtsyCwrKHjVG9sU3nd6Fio1-2QJ2QUrtIQJ8vGcVwcipl1acZ4LUlR9lmINaQ8Bfem@[91.21.78.132]) by fwd04.t-online.de with esmtp id 1O0fWx-1HXG3U0; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:35:43 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:35:27 +0200 From: "O.Herold" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100410203527.00002c45@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> References: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> Organization: F!XMBR X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/JhnewfG=fbl.4dIShq/D9Q9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-ID: EfbPxMZcYtsyCwrKHjVG9sU3nd6Fio1-2QJ2QUrtIQJ8vGcVwcipl1acZ4LUlR9lmINaQ8Bfem X-TOI-MSGID: 858f29bf-594e-4ba3-a932-2c08323572c3 Subject: Re: Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN Supported on FreeBSD-8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:51:07 -0000 --Sig_/JhnewfG=fbl.4dIShq/D9Q9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:22:46 +0100 schrieb S Roberts : > Hello, > The wireless nic on my laptop is the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN. Is > this card supported in FreeBSD as present?=20 >=20 > I checked the FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes (at > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), and I don't > see the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN actually listed.=20 >=20 > Looking at the online manpage for iwn, it is actually titled "Intel > Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN IEEE 802.11n driver", but then again, I > also noted that that manpage is timestamped April 13, 2008 and is > tagged for FreeBSD-7.2. >=20 > I'd some help, please. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > S Roberts >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You have to use 8-stable, then you get support for this kind of adapter. Cheers, Oliver --Sig_/JhnewfG=fbl.4dIShq/D9Q9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) iEUEARECAAYFAkvAxPwACgkQ02mffhwz8p/v3wCgwvV1F6EvD5f8Po8dO6m3sYaY Nh0AlRFQqiLU0mMUjhdY8tgAkO3mM6A= =vBuT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/JhnewfG=fbl.4dIShq/D9Q9-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 18:55:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A241106564A; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2A48FC13; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1O0fpg-00073A-To; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:05 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:55:05 +0100 From: S Roberts To: "O.Herold" Message-ID: <20100410195505.000011fc@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100410203527.00002c45@unknown> References: <20100410192246.00002af3@unknown> <20100410203527.00002c45@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN Supported on FreeBSD-8.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:55:06 -0000 Hello Oliver, Thanks for the response. On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:35:27 +0200 "O.Herold" wrote: > Am Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:22:46 +0100 > schrieb S Roberts : > > > Hello, > > The wireless nic on my laptop is the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN. > > Is this card supported in FreeBSD as present? > > > > I checked the FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE Hardware Notes (at > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/hardware.html#WLAN), and I > > don't see the Intel WiFi Link 5100AGN actually listed. > > > > Looking at the online manpage for iwn, it is actually titled "Intel > > Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN IEEE 802.11n driver", but then again, I > > also noted that that manpage is timestamped April 13, 2008 and is > > tagged for FreeBSD-7.2. > > > > I'd some help, please. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > You have to use 8-stable, then you get support for this kind of > adapter. > Understood - install 8-REL, the cvsup to 8-Stable. Thanks again. Regards, S Roberts > Cheers, Oliver