From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 14:29:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC90106566C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:29:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D12C8FC1A for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eaeE1e00216LCl05CeFwp8; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:15:56 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eeFv1e0053S48mS3SeFvhE; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:15:56 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A4FE09B425; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 07:15:53 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: nickolasbug@gmail.com Message-ID: <20100706141553.GA59650@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: csup: Invalid greeting from server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:29:11 -0000 On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 04:55:15PM +0300, nickolasbug@gmail.com wrote: > Is everything OK with cvsup.freebsd.org? > I got message "Invalid greeting from server" during last two days: > > csup -L 2 /etc/supfile > Parsing supfile "/etc/supfile" > Connecting to cvsup.freebsd.org > Connected to 72.233.193.64 > Invalid greeting from server > > My supfile looks like this: > > *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default compress delete use-rel-suffix > > src-all tag=RELENG_8 > ports-all tag=. > doc-all tag=. This should have been sent to freebsd-hubs. Adding to CC. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 6 23:57:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86BE106566B; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwt@networks.cwu.edu) Received: from nsc0.cwu.edu (nsc0.cwu.edu [72.233.196.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689348FC08; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from n.cwu.edu (n.cwu.edu [198.104.69.57]) by nsc0.cwu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o66NUJuq067727; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwt@networks.cwu.edu) Received: from n.cwu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n.cwu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o66NUJdI008048; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwt@networks.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (cwt@localhost) by n.cwu.edu (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id o66NUJGP008045; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwt@networks.cwu.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: n.cwu.edu: cwt owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons X-X-Sender: cwt@n.cwu.edu To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20100706141553.GA59650@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20100706162540.C7567@n.cwu.edu> References: <20100706141553.GA59650@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (nsc0.cwu.edu [72.233.196.16]); Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, nickolasbug@gmail.com Subject: Re: csup: Invalid greeting from server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 23:57:14 -0000 There was a problem with the server. It is updating at this moment and should be up-to-date quickly. Regards, -Chris On Tue, 6 Jul 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 04:55:15PM +0300, nickolasbug@gmail.com wrote: >> Is everything OK with cvsup.freebsd.org? >> I got message "Invalid greeting from server" during last two days: >> >> csup -L 2 /etc/supfile >> Parsing supfile "/etc/supfile" >> Connecting to cvsup.freebsd.org >> Connected to 72.233.193.64 >> Invalid greeting from server >> >> My supfile looks like this: >> >> *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org >> *default base=/var/db >> *default prefix=/usr >> *default release=cvs >> *default compress delete use-rel-suffix >> >> src-all tag=RELENG_8 >> ports-all tag=. >> doc-all tag=. > > This should have been sent to freebsd-hubs. Adding to CC. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hubs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hubs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 03:46:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164DE106564A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 03:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from askjuise@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B948FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 03:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws6 with SMTP id 6so8944046vws.13 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oeO0mFeHcdID5DydDVEkYpm6Nxu59oiG2Du89LRWZFU=; b=QuI/q1+wuEzD8xoO/g5zeK3UoStMFzQM7x/zrP302HFkDRyJyTRbbbPMUBhoSyqI7h +1Xs8wt2o9284fb1xtsxMlM2uxWR1uKyOp2awkKHGjvHJh5VVrsj/sUX7nx5APp3l4RL RmpcRNg7On1JS5T1BnvfRvyfHJyKNU6lHcVF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Qt4lU46m3GiCSlLGgoIwixTjwSLQJW8sz44U/SXfy9tFlcK3H0Iyzhtm5CCOPZS/G9 lL8q4c/mQxSEVx14SgSLXGZT+f2PZNk3zGH4KMz7o4yxOfYr3+XvmUurRUoIcFZgXNVD uPTVZDCn8KfsWU2uV0icCZTa4tSgMs+H91YBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.224.196 with SMTP id ip4mr3314173qcb.138.1278472661460; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.212 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:17:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100706141553.GA59650@icarus.home.lan> <20100706162540.C7567@n.cwu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:17:41 +0800 Message-ID: From: Alexander Petrovsky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, nickolasbug@gmail.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:26:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Fwd: csup: Invalid greeting from server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 03:46:19 -0000 May be you should use some thing like this - cvsup.en.freebsd.org? Why you try use root cvs servers? 2010/7/7 Chris Timmons > There was a problem with the server. It is updating at this moment and > should be up-to-date quickly. > > Regards, > -Chris > > On Tue, 6 Jul 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 04:55:15PM +0300, nickolasbug@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Is everything OK with cvsup.freebsd.org? >>> I got message "Invalid greeting from server" during last two days: >>> >>> csup -L 2 /etc/supfile >>> Parsing supfile "/etc/supfile" >>> Connecting to cvsup.freebsd.org >>> Connected to 72.233.193.64 >>> Invalid greeting from server >>> >>> My supfile looks like this: >>> >>> *default host=3Dcvsup.freebsd.org >>> *default base=3D/var/db >>> *default prefix=3D/usr >>> *default release=3Dcvs >>> *default compress delete use-rel-suffix >>> >>> src-all tag=3DRELENG_8 >>> ports-all tag=3D. >>> doc-all tag=3D. >>> >> >> This should have been sent to freebsd-hubs. Adding to CC. >> >> -- >> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | >> | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | >> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | >> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hubs >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hubs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=90=D0=BB= =D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80 / Alexander Petrovsky, ICQ: 350342118 Jabber: juise@jabber.ru Phone: +7 914 8 820 815 --=20 =D0=9F=D0=B5=D1=82=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=90=D0=BB= =D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80 / Alexander Petrovsky, ICQ: 350342118 Jabber: juise@jabber.ru Phone: +7 914 8 820 815 From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 17:39:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173F1106566B for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@buffalo.edu) Received: from localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B098FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A69DC189E; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F89BC1877; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mweb2.acsu.buffalo.edu (mweb2.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.239]) by localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (Prefixe) with ESMTP id 4803AC18D6; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.205.32.76] (bauer.cse.buffalo.edu [128.205.32.76]) by mweb2.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341D44C4006; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith To: Garrett Wollman In-Reply-To: <201007071732.o67HWPN3034932@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> References: <1278081504.83414.26.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <201007071732.o67HWPN3034932@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2qXnOiucF2zWQ0/4S5tl" Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:39:09 -0400 Message-ID: <1278524349.46615.32.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-PM-EL-Spam-Prob: : 8% Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:39:17 -0000 --=-2qXnOiucF2zWQ0/4S5tl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:32 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <1278507882.46615.6.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu>, Ken Smith > writes: >=20 > >I just finished uploading the DVD images for amd64 and i386 to the > >master FTP site. It will take a few hours for them to propagate to > >the mirrors. Checksums are: > > > >MD5 (FreeBSD-8.1-RC2-amd64-dvd1.iso) =3D 9b8f71cdfc8e9b9f7238a843b85cd24= d > >MD5 (FreeBSD-8.1-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso) =3D 15f60953db9940551504193c4433c43f >=20 > I'm not sure how many months it will take for these to show up on ftp5 > at the current rate of updates. Presently it takes about two and a > half weeks just to synchronize all the packages, after which cvsup > hits some sort of timeout and starts all over again. I'm thinking of > switching to rsync as it's about twice as fast. >=20 > (This may be a result of switching to ZFS -- it seems that ZFS is > about one tenth the speed of UFS2 on the same hardware -- but I > haven't had time to investigate any more deeply than that. Any ZFS > experts out there who could suggest a fruitful line of research?) >=20 > -GAWollman >=20 I can't comment on the zfs question but ... As a heads-up switching over to rsync generally is in the works. First step is a bit more memory in ftp-master. We won't adjust the number of allowed connections via cvsup/rsync until after the memory gets added so if people start trying to shift to rsync now it will increase the rejection rate due to max connects hit. But again - just as a heads-up this is in the works. When ftp-master is ready to handle more rsync connections we will let you know. The motivation is being able to have files larger than 2Gb. Pieces of cvsup keep track of file sizes as a signed integer so max file size is 2^31... --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | --=-2qXnOiucF2zWQ0/4S5tl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkw0u70ACgkQ/G14VSmup/bUlgCeNJTYAqK7a6hjk0/UB+Kp74Ac 0KsAn1m93j9LMLum0ReIzuSEeIB0bE55 =+Hbz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2qXnOiucF2zWQ0/4S5tl-- From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 7 17:48:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAF6106564A for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [66.92.79.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FB58FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o67HWPvd034933; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o67HWPN3034932; Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <201007071732.o67HWPN3034932@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> To: kensmith@buffalo.edu In-Reply-To: <1278507882.46615.6.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> References: <1278081504.83414.26.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Organization: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:48:28 -0000 In article <1278507882.46615.6.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu>, Ken Smith writes: >I just finished uploading the DVD images for amd64 and i386 to the >master FTP site. It will take a few hours for them to propagate to >the mirrors. Checksums are: > >MD5 (FreeBSD-8.1-RC2-amd64-dvd1.iso) = 9b8f71cdfc8e9b9f7238a843b85cd24d >MD5 (FreeBSD-8.1-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso) = 15f60953db9940551504193c4433c43f I'm not sure how many months it will take for these to show up on ftp5 at the current rate of updates. Presently it takes about two and a half weeks just to synchronize all the packages, after which cvsup hits some sort of timeout and starts all over again. I'm thinking of switching to rsync as it's about twice as fast. (This may be a result of switching to ZFS -- it seems that ZFS is about one tenth the speed of UFS2 on the same hardware -- but I haven't had time to investigate any more deeply than that. Any ZFS experts out there who could suggest a fruitful line of research?) -GAWollman From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 08:35:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF788106566B for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (kazi6.fit.vutbr.cz [IPv6:2001:718:802:808::93e5:80c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F24D8FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o688ZN3Y094477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:35:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.14.4/8.13.1/Submit) id o688ZMaK094476; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:35:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: kazi.fit.vutbr.cz: cejkar set sender to cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:35:22 +0200 From: Cejka Rudolf To: Ken Smith Message-ID: <20100708083522.GA89496@fit.vutbr.cz> References: <1278081504.83414.26.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <201007071732.o67HWPN3034932@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <1278524349.46615.32.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1278524349.46615.32.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.70 on 147.229.8.12 Cc: Garrett Wollman , hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 08:35:27 -0000 Ken Smith wrote (2010/07/07): > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:32 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > I'm not sure how many months it will take for these to show up on ftp5 > > at the current rate of updates. Presently it takes about two and a > > half weeks just to synchronize all the packages, after which cvsup > > hits some sort of timeout and starts all over again. Did you try to use -Pa option for cvsup? It helped me very much, when I tried to compare speeds of cvsup with and without this option in the past. Speed increased from 50 KB/s to 500 KB/s. I still use this option today and the speed of updates on european ftp-master.eu.FreeBSD.org is sufficient. The mirror is currently synchronized and last bigger update including files FreeBSD-8.1-RC2-amd64-dvd1.iso.gz and FreeBSD-8.1-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso.gz ran under 3 hours. > > (This may be a result of switching to ZFS -- it seems that ZFS is > > about one tenth the speed of UFS2 on the same hardware -- but I > > haven't had time to investigate any more deeply than that. Any ZFS > > experts out there who could suggest a fruitful line of research?) I'm not ZFS expert either, but I have similar experiences and I rather stayed with UFS2. I think that long fsck is not such a big problem for our mirrors and I can see on my 8 x 500 GB HW RAID-5 sequential reads up to 300 MB/s using UFS2, instead of just 30 MB/s using ZFS (tested both over RAID-5 and JBOD). Raidtest showed me similar results too. My understading of ZFS is that it it great FS, when I have many disk subsystems, and I need to build one to many flexible filesystems over them. > As a heads-up switching over to rsync generally is in the works. Great, thanks ;o) I'm the first hungry customer with ftp-master.eu.FreeBSD.org ;o) > The motivation is being able to have files larger than 2Gb. > Pieces of cvsup keep track of file sizes as a signed integer > so max file size is 2^31... The other problems are limited capabilities using IPv6 and I really do not believe in identity of source and destination trees mirrored using cvsup... Regards. -- Rudolf Cejka http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 10:47:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F173106566B for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDA8FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o68AkkXt083903; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:47:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o68AkiUw083900; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:46:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <201007081046.o68AkiUw083900@lurza.secnetix.de> To: cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz (Cejka Rudolf) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:46:44 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20100708083522.GA89496@fit.vutbr.cz> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.4 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:47:02 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Garrett Wollman , hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RC2 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:47:22 -0000 Cejka Rudolf wrote: > I'm not ZFS expert either, but I have similar experiences and I rather > stayed with UFS2. You can improve ZFS performance; there are some tuning guides floating around. But I think you will still not reach the performance of a well-tuned UFS. So it's propably better indeed to stay with UFS if performance is the most important aspect of the file system. > I think that long fsck is not such a big problem for > our mirrors and I can see on my 8 x 500 GB HW RAID-5 sequential reads > up to 300 MB/s using UFS2, instead of just 30 MB/s using ZFS (tested > both over RAID-5 and JBOD). If fsck time is an issue, I recommend using gjournal and put the journal on a separate fast disk, e.g. an SSD. It won't affect read performance at all, and reduce write performance only slightly, depending on access patterns. > The other problems are limited capabilities using IPv6 and I really > do not believe in identity of source and destination trees mirrored > using cvsup... To be honest, I trust cvsup more than I trust rsync. I've had some horrible experiences with rsync and lost some backups in the process; especially its error-handling seems to be very bad. For example, when the target file system is full, all kinds of weird things happen, such as files being moved to the wrong directory, plain files being replaced by device nodes and similar oddities. Well, maybe rsync was improved in the meantime; I didn't dare to touch it in a while. :-) Just my 2 cents. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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