From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 18:45:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7287106564A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwf-ml@arcor.de) Received: from mail.arcor.net (mail.arcor.net [145.253.32.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECC78FC0C for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw.arcor.net (sunmaildns01.arcor.net [62.213.136.73]) by mail.arcor.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o28Iishi005786; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:44:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from tkmail.arcor.net (esbanl-1ug-1-p2.arcor.net [62.213.137.69]) by mail-gw.arcor.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o28IirOp024963; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:44:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from sky.tnd.arcor.net (sky.tnd.arcor.net [10.128.188.151]) by tkmail.arcor.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50D21BFC; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:44:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.207.2.109] (unknown [10.207.2.109]) by sky.tnd.arcor.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB4A2F12; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 19:44:53 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <4B9545A4.7050208@arcor.de> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:44:52 +0100 From: Christoph Weber-Fahr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross West , freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org References: <4B91675D.6070707@arcor.de> <953029429.20100305161701@connection.ca> In-Reply-To: <953029429.20100305161701@connection.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: BL460 G6 support X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:45:04 -0000 Hello, Ross West wrote: > CWF> Does anybody know if there FreeBSD support forthcoming for the > CWF> current BL460 generation, or has FreeBSD written off HPs blade > CWF> server as insignificant? > > I'm currently running FreeBSD 7/8 on BL460 (G1) right now - Using the > Qlogic fiber channel cards + the NC373i gigabit cards. Works with > generic kernel on 8.0 nicely. Thanks for your reply - but that is *not* the issue. I have 26 of those. The problem we (and you, FWIW) have is that the G6 (and the soon-to-come BL465 G7) have a *different* NIC chip set which is not supported, and I do not see any movement in this matter. The G6 has been out for nearly a year now, G1s are not on the market any more, so thats a major problem. Oh, and evcn if there is a supported mezzanine card this wouldn't help either, since mezzanine cards can not connect to the switch the embedded cards are on, so I can not use those to expand existing centers (without purchasing new switches). > If you mean official HP support - then you're asking the wrong place, > as it's up the HP, not Freebsd. And last I heard HP isn't offering > official support for BSD any time soon, only Redhat + SLES Linux. Correct. > I don't believe Freebsd offers official support for any platform. > There are probably consulting places that will gladly help out though! Nope. This is not about "official support" - this is about "do we consider this server platform important enough to make sure there are the necessary drivers for it". And the ridicule and schoolmasterly rebuffs people get when asking about this seem to imply otherwise. (just google the issue and read the handful or so threads on the topic. Apparently, this isn't even considered a problem. > There was someone who has written a driver for the NC532i (broadcom > 57711 10Ge chipset that comes with the BL460-G6) but wanted to do > more testing - see: > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg30514.html Yes, I know that thread. David Christensen of Broadcom. I contacted him in August 2009 and offered help, but he didn't need any more testers. I also took up on his suggestion to escalate this issue via our HP key account mananger, but apparently that didn't do any good either. Since then, he stopped answering my emails. After 6 months, this seems to be a dead end. Regards Christoph Weber-Fahr From owner-freebsd-proliant@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 12 15:14:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7679B106566B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ferdie@petalio.hk.com) Received: from groupmail.hk.com (groupmail.hk.com [152.104.8.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30998FC12 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [203.218.87.199] (account ferdie@petalio.hk.com) by groupmail.hk.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.13) with HTTP id 35732572 for freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:14:17 +0800 From: To: X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.13 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:14:17 +0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100309120022.9A5CB10656B4@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20100309120022.9A5CB10656B4@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: freebsd-proliant Digest, Vol 141, Issue 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion of FreeBSD on HP ProLiant server platforms." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:14:22 -0000 On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 12:00:22 +0000 (UTC) freebsd-proliant-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Send freebsd-proliant mailing list submissions to > freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-proliant > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-proliant-request@freebsd.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-proliant-owner@freebsd.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-proliant digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BL460 G6 support (Christoph Weber-Fahr) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:44:52 +0100 >From: Christoph Weber-Fahr > Subject: Re: BL460 G6 support > To: Ross West , freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <4B9545A4.7050208@arcor.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello, > > Ross West wrote: >> CWF> Does anybody know if there FreeBSD support forthcoming for the >> CWF> current BL460 generation, or has FreeBSD written off HPs blade >> CWF> server as insignificant? >> >> I'm currently running FreeBSD 7/8 on BL460 (G1) right now - Using >>the >> Qlogic fiber channel cards + the NC373i gigabit cards. Works with >> generic kernel on 8.0 nicely. > > Thanks for your reply - but that is *not* the issue. I have 26 of >those. > > The problem we (and you, FWIW) have is that the G6 (and the >soon-to-come > BL465 G7) have a *different* NIC chip set which is not supported, > and I do not see any movement in this matter. The G6 has been out > for nearly a year now, G1s are not on the market any more, so thats > a major problem. > > Oh, and evcn if there is a supported mezzanine card this wouldn't > help either, since mezzanine cards can not connect to the switch > the embedded cards are on, so I can not use those to expand existing > centers (without purchasing new switches). > >> If you mean official HP support - then you're asking the wrong >>place, >> as it's up the HP, not Freebsd. And last I heard HP isn't offering >> official support for BSD any time soon, only Redhat + SLES Linux. I am witness to that... > > Correct. > >> I don't believe Freebsd offers official support for any platform. >> There are probably consulting places that will gladly help out >>though! > > Nope. This is not about "official support" - this is about "do we > consider this server platform important enough to make sure there > are the necessary drivers for it". And the ridicule and >schoolmasterly > rebuffs people get when asking about this seem to imply otherwise. > (just google the issue and read the handful or so threads > on the topic. Apparently, this isn't even considered a problem. > >> There was someone who has written a driver for the NC532i (broadcom >> 57711 10Ge chipset that comes with the BL460-G6) but wanted to do >> more testing - see: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg30514.html > > Yes, I know that thread. David Christensen of Broadcom. I contacted > him in August 2009 and offered help, but he didn't need any more > testers. I also took up on his suggestion to escalate this issue > via our HP key account mananger, but apparently that didn't do > any good either. > > Since then, he stopped answering my emails. > > After 6 months, this seems to be a dead end. > > Regards > > Christoph Weber-Fahr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-proliant > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-proliant-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > End of freebsd-proliant Digest, Vol 141, Issue 1 > ************************************************