From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 00:03:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2B01065675 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFCB8FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so307001eya.9 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:03:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zo01o+0fZsZwMgYcex4fjnmALdfWWx6AEcq7fkUeERE=; b=laTnhuFb4cn0P/yPzC9VQA7XyYxTAM0ggWKTaDq3UcZKdKS8UC1ZAr/xTxEHes/f42 yqaWxzD6x1D/9T87YqPU7Gyq/zSZdpjjyaT9nEi30lxjaDHXIR3aZddKkSnrio4QHkd+ PbvdoO7QeGnKy8tna5qVnVCTPCrTwSxSVz+k8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b7APLGrv94zrcKouo1EcMkgztd+KtRo4gfIlzW05blZHXw8edfoJqWipjSxNnKONJb xIG0nbeaadgLMgscN8F/HKHORJSr+80ZBAXomrZVAUnxiQcOoxef8PNucIq/3TSK/RJB VMPDeO0eLVAvRHAqYakgPWRiukLNb3Li3M40E= Received: by 10.213.104.19 with SMTP id m19mr1809774ebo.40.1267315418669; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2588655eyh.3.2010.02.27.16.03.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:19 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100228000319.094b5ef3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100228090727.127b61cf@eye-of-odin.com> References: <20100228090727.127b61cf@eye-of-odin.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Squid reporting incorrect time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:42 -0000 On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:07:27 +1030 Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I've had my squid proxy running fine for quite some time now but just > one thing bothers me. When a page cannot be displayed, the date and > time showing on that page is incorrect even the the system date and > time is correct. Works for me. Are you sure the error page is generated by your cache? Do you see your own hostname in the page? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 00:49:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EB1106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517E78FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NlXLM-0003ns-Li for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:49:12 -0800 Message-ID: <27732285.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com Subject: How to check a ext3 partition ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:49:13 -0000 There is a ext3 partition used to share data between linux and freebsd. Sometimes freebsd cannot mount this partition as abnormal poweroff. I have to enter linux to do `fsck.ext3` . Can freebsd fsck ext3 partition ? ----- fac n = let { f = foldr (*) 1 [1..n] } in f -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/How-to-check-a-ext3-partition---tp27732285p27732285.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 00:54:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF85106566B for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9168FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-13.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.13]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C2F1E65E; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:54:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o1S0sFGd002265; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:54:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:54:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: zaxis Message-Id: <20100228015414.08dbc4cc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <27732285.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <27732285.post@talk.nabble.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to check a ext3 partition ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:54:17 -0000 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:49:12 -0800 (PST), zaxis wrote: > > There is a ext3 partition used to share data between linux and freebsd. > Sometimes freebsd cannot mount this partition as abnormal poweroff. I have > to enter linux to do `fsck.ext3` . > > Can freebsd fsck ext3 partition ? I think the port sysutils/e2fsprogs contains a fsck program that can be run on ext3 partitions. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 00:56:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ACC106566B for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0B58FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o1S0tmhS032713; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:55:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NZAwMdBN0P5a; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:55:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1S0tilk032709; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:55:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4B89BF10.1030702@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:55:44 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zaxis References: <27732285.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <27732285.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to check a ext3 partition ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:56:11 -0000 zaxis wrote: > There is a ext3 partition used to share data between linux and freebsd. > Sometimes freebsd cannot mount this partition as abnormal poweroff. I have > to enter linux to do `fsck.ext3` . > > Can freebsd fsck ext3 partition ? > Not natively, AFAIK. Check out /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs; I've not used it, but I'd imagine it would take care of this chore for you. KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 00:58:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B201065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ty-ml@eye-of-odin.com) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1A1A8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6818 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2010 00:58:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (219.90.240.35) by p3plsmtpa01-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.89) with ESMTP; 28 Feb 2010 00:58:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:29:18 +1030 From: Ty John (sand_man) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100228112918.0576e21d@eye-of-odin.com> In-Reply-To: <20100228000319.094b5ef3@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20100228090727.127b61cf@eye-of-odin.com> <20100228000319.094b5ef3@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Squid reporting incorrect time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:58:58 -0000 On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:19 +0000 RW wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:07:27 +1030 > Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I've had my squid proxy running fine for quite some time now but > > just one thing bothers me. When a page cannot be displayed, the > > date and time showing on that page is incorrect even the the system > > date and time is correct. > > Works for me. Are you sure the error page is generated by your cache? > Do you see your own hostname in the page? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yes I'm 100% sure. I'll check out those others links Jon just posted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 01:03:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF93106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sulfurfff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f191.google.com (mail-iw0-f191.google.com [209.85.223.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165F38FC15 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn29 with SMTP id 29so610853iwn.27 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:03:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HdFSdmo6dldGPGeHH0mSZaeoXL21Qq/aNREnQo1q9ZI=; b=RyBjJWAzC3dTQPUMPq9Y/rVfJAn91N5WYUrO58XapK27BXdsC0xrDV4FIS59syIarO EAIlOq0bSsh7WGeMBxPCHtmeTazmCVjDMAA8cfGMrrVyIRvk+kJ4N4weDZ2QnsSUlBOG 0UBUPsQrCWI5NI7JnIlqJh/f8sYQLaqduGEQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZBy/3vCq/RXXaUlMbfSIaknuA+0mZk6MBW7sqY5G9F2Waqk4+tIjEUuDW+JhCiCys9 yVSh2SypO11IQzS9VRartcq5U7gSOAh023a1i3M5XDGwW5r3ws4ZA9dwMIFbd5+d0dK8 Qvp2wn97J468tOfq9lcTbzyU9fTxfYXvMjA1I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.207 with SMTP id k15mr396178ibx.75.1267319014165; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:03:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B89BF10.1030702@daleco.biz> References: <27732285.post@talk.nabble.com> <4B89BF10.1030702@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:03:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ishmael F.E." To: Kevin Kinsey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: zaxis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to check a ext3 partition ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:03:42 -0000 e2fsprogs has utilities to create and check ext2 and ext3, it also creates ext4, but freebsd (at this time) doesn't seems to be able to mount ext4 yet. I had to install it because I share /home with GNU/linux. 2010/2/27 Kevin Kinsey > zaxis wrote: > >> There is a ext3 partition used to share data between linux and freebsd. >> Sometimes freebsd cannot mount this partition as abnormal poweroff. I >> have >> to enter linux to do `fsck.ext3` . >> >> Can freebsd fsck ext3 partition ? >> >> > Not natively, AFAIK. Check out /usr/ports/sysutils/e2fsprogs; > I've not used it, but I'd imagine it would take care of this > chore for you. > > KDK > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- [============================] [En muchos lugares, tomar fotos es visto como] [una costumbre vil y reprensible ] [============================] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 01:06:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553AF106566B for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80868FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9491070; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:06:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9491068 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:06:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4B89C197.2070006@radel.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:06:31 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100228090727.127b61cf@eye-of-odin.com> <20100228000319.094b5ef3@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100228112918.0576e21d@eye-of-odin.com> In-Reply-To: <20100228112918.0576e21d@eye-of-odin.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020100030808050002040006" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Squid reporting incorrect time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:06:47 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020100030808050002040006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/27/10 7:59 PM, Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:19 +0000 > RW wrote: > >> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:07:27 +1030 >> Ty John (sand_man) wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I've had my squid proxy running fine for quite some time now but >>> just one thing bothers me. When a page cannot be displayed, the >>> date and time showing on that page is incorrect even the the system >>> date and time is correct. >> >> Works for me. Are you sure the error page is generated by your cache? >> Do you see your own hostname in the page? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Yes I'm 100% sure. I'll check out those others links Jon just posted. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" He's referring to my mail where I mentioned: > > Try http://www.linuxreaders.com/2009/08/10/squid-change-timezone/ > See also the distinction between %t and %T at=20 http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/CustomErrors --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms020100030808050002040006-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 01:29:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86171106566C; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f177.google.com (mail-yx0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA5F8FC14; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe7 with SMTP id 7so411388yxe.3 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:28:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8pGHvl5sf51h5RcX9LxN8pmeTTZsMffc21YLyJQW8c0=; b=C6gWRGZxWd/365nmGzsL9/PPaKeTp5r0Ci/eT5DZhPgB6j/svYKFY9or5uhodEuZn9 gWAI/k5g0/93RQYWfN9Ky8eSBgoCpZ4Tqf2R/UZ4Vuzw1P/5C2WAZmrawkEb8B9StVmg pYl4BWTD9QW05S+v7ufZm4HWLwo0l0Pat6xd0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cAjsDOjIXTKRsOQuTVRDlA65/nzXKC/VIUGP56hRuq+mauOS2F8f3tcMrIx7a2zfDd 0tSlm3evhMDNtzCG24048DzqzBhkDkwho+DHe/1675HW3Yvob+YkDUtO0456EAfAm7Xg OyF8NXJ5V3BqXbfKdCMYd1hQKARhj2rbEvDlo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.18.11 with SMTP id 11mr3427638anr.154.1267320528819; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:28:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:28:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: 8.0 on new hardware and a few errors, should I be worried? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:29:00 -0000 Hello I've very recently finished installing 8.0-RELEASE on some new hardware and I noticed a few error messages that make me a bit uneasy. This is a snip from my dmesg: -------------------------------------------------- acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, bf600000 (3) failed -------------------------------------------------- What do these mean and should I worry about it? The full DMESG can be viewed here: http://jago.pp.fi/temp/dmesg.txt Additionally, while building a whole bunch of ports on this new system (about 30 or so, samba, ncftp, portaudit, bash, the usual suspects), I noticed the following in my logs during the build process: -------------------------------------------------- Feb 27 21:24:01 atombsd kernel: pid 38846 (try), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) Feb 27 22:17:49 atombsd kernel: pid 89665 (conftest), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) -------------------------------------------------- All ports seem to have built and installed succesfully. Again, what do these mean and should I worry about it? :) Thanks! - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 01:47:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B8C106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C8D8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nDJ11d0051ei1Bg5ADa0C9; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:34:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([98.248.46.159]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nDc81d00Q3S48mS3kDc969; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:36:09 +0000 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D6CD1E301A; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:33:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:33:58 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Dan Naumov Message-ID: <20100228013358.GA70119@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 on new hardware and a few errors, should I be worried? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:47:17 -0000 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 03:28:48AM +0200, Dan Naumov wrote: > Additionally, while building a whole bunch of ports on this new system > (about 30 or so, samba, ncftp, portaudit, bash, the usual suspects), I > noticed the following in my logs during the build process: > > -------------------------------------------------- > Feb 27 21:24:01 atombsd kernel: pid 38846 (try), uid 0: exited on > signal 10 (core dumped) > Feb 27 22:17:49 atombsd kernel: pid 89665 (conftest), uid 0: exited on > signal 6 (core dumped) > -------------------------------------------------- This is intentional/normal, believe it or not. It's by-design as part of some compiler tests that autoconf (or the software that uses autoconf) induces. Thanks, GNU! FreeBSD logs these to the console by default; the sysctl to control this behaviour is kern.logsigexit. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 01:56:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86110106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 554BC8FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8208 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2010 01:56:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2010 01:56:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=b8kn4vOm6pIfyf1/c3MAaMUQza7t2ejTMmtVx42ZtCuNQEclwF3vJYlO7+9UEMVZUexkADqr7zeeQgr7Of4Tl/og+vHCCzhRkrHiB7jKcX4IyIcdiOQa3HFHfQuIRU9p; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NlYOG-0001D6-LS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:56:17 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:56:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:56:27 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <2e8230611002261650oe500cb9qa9b52336e4e717bf@mail.gmail.com> <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:56:18 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 07:58:51AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > Some parts of the material in FreeBSD is under GPL, which means > that you have to ensure source code is available for those bits: if > you're redistributing the standard .iso images from the FreeBSD web > sites, you can just point to the ways of getting the sources in the > Handbook. Actually, once your project becomes a commercial enterprise, the GPL stops allowing reference to upstream sources to suit the requirements of code redistribution. If you sell GPLed software, you have to provide the sources yourself -- and, if you offer the *option* of access to the sources without actually ensuring that everybody gets a copy of the sources right away, you have to maintain sources for each distributed version for a number of years after the last such distribution. I'm not saying you *don't* have to maintain sources that long after the fact if you make sure everybody gets a copy right away; I haven't read the text of the GPL in detail in a while, and don't recall that specific detail. Note that I'm not a lawyer, and this does not constitute legal advice. My only direct legal advice is to seek legal advice from a professional. >=20 > Whether reselling for profit something that anyone can get for free > is a viable business proposition I'll leave up to your better judgement. That's really true of software under *any* license -- because it's basically free to copy and distribute. The only question is whether it's reasonable to expect to be able to get the government to enforce your business model for you. If not (as in the case of something distributed under the terms of the BSD license), you'll probably need to offer something additional (such as local presence for physical, face to face transactions, or a package deal with something else, or perhaps free support above and beyond what's available from the FreeBSD project itself, and so on). --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuJzUsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV+fwCg/Kx/TTPtolbHEkn09i4ysZ92 GzwAnRjKiEm0eCqlLZTRdcUcFKcv8WdS =J/NA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 02:09:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1CC106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044C58FC1A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1S29Hv9019711; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:09:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o1S29GCv019708; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:09:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:09:16 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bill Tillman In-Reply-To: <222727.97456.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <222727.97456.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-129045536-1267322957=:19703" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:09:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: RESOLVED: Printing via USB Port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:09:18 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-129045536-1267322957=:19703 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Bill Tillman wrote: > Sorry to keep beating this dead horse but I forgot to mention that this also means that I didn't need the ppd file either. The ps2hl1250 takes care of everything through > ghostscript. One less thing to worry about in the setup. >   > I guess the only thing left to do with this is to figure out an if/then module to decide whether the file is postscript or just plain text and then print just plain text without > using the ghostscript portion. There's one in my lpd article under Smart Filters: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/lpdprinting.pdf -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ---902635197-129045536-1267322957=:19703-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 02:30:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35EC106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ty-ml@eye-of-odin.com) Received: from smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80E118FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21387 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2010 02:03:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (219.90.183.196) by smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.22) with ESMTP; 28 Feb 2010 02:03:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:34:18 +1030 From: Ty John (sand_man) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100228123418.292e0f44@eye-of-odin.com> In-Reply-To: <4B89C197.2070006@radel.com> References: <20100228090727.127b61cf@eye-of-odin.com> <20100228000319.094b5ef3@gumby.homeunix.com> <20100228112918.0576e21d@eye-of-odin.com> <4B89C197.2070006@radel.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Squid reporting incorrect time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:30:39 -0000 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:06:31 -0500 Jon Radel wrote: > On 2/27/10 7:59 PM, Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > > > > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:19 +0000 > > RW wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:07:27 +1030 > >> Ty John (sand_man) wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi guys, > >>> > >>> I've had my squid proxy running fine for quite some time now but > >>> just one thing bothers me. When a page cannot be displayed, the > >>> date and time showing on that page is incorrect even the the > >>> system date and time is correct. > >> > >> Works for me. Are you sure the error page is generated by your > >> cache? Do you see your own hostname in the page? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > Yes I'm 100% sure. I'll check out those others links Jon just > > posted. _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > He's referring to my mail where I mentioned: > > > > > Try http://www.linuxreaders.com/2009/08/10/squid-change-timezone/ > > > > See also the distinction between %t and %T at > http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/CustomErrors > > I got it working. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 03:08:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A15106566C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAFA8FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1S38lux019854; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:08:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o1S38l7c019851; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:08:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:08:47 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bill Tillman In-Reply-To: <498067.17999.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <498067.17999.qm@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1404370710-1267326396=:19703" Content-ID: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:08:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: RESOLVED: Printing via USB Port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:08:49 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1404370710-1267326396=:19703 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; FORMAT=flowed; CHARSET=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Bill Tillman wrote: > Now one last question. I print from two segments in my home LAN. One > is 10.0.0.0/24 which is where almost everything in the house is. The > other is 192.168.0.0/24 which is for all the wireless devices and > guests who visit with their wireless laptops. I need to start lpd with > -W parameter in order to get it to accept print jobs from the > 192.168.0.0/24 wireless segment. So what is the proper syntax for this > in /etc/rc.conf   > lpd_enable="YES"   ???? and lpd_flags="-W" (untested)... And from the other message: > The simpler /etc/printcap above using ps2hl1250 which is a very short > script works as well. No need to have to load the foomatic-filters > port. Although like apsfilter, foomatic provides other features you may like. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ---902635197-1404370710-1267326396=:19703-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 05:02:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD810106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809A08FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D6B3A385E for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:02:13 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1267333321; x=1269147721; bh=MddlfmebE eIlKlHd/Z6tiGv4bwzWEJgJXXhVLRyCfLE=; b=kf3lg5iTrwYbynOgletAJQfQy noRAIVT8eaE0fZBF2QEbAH5C6jhB+xXqUgW8iJJ5JUQdBVVuRVoWnsel+hKUrlpE Yf/7QuLASulx2qEGFdcgAOJgxvDgZpWPNclWBkRpADbqCdkB27r20gvhRhjIbx7k bLv9wIh8xlh05fLOYU= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ZfYtMApa9jKJ for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:02:01 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 561623A381D for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:02:01 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1S51mrT095582; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:01:48 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:01:48 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:02:21 -0000 Hi, What in a standard installation of FreeBSD, on a server running only MySQL and Postgress, could cause the CD tray to open by itself from time to time? Thanks in advance, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 05:07:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6AE106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FF68FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so340529qwh.7 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:07:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VF/FuyAMv/0I+ef3aSuCtxKohRGPGYWbKzm+duCD6LQ=; b=n5Yl3hQHwiYzLsnDj4Q47QoSm0N71AAEwnCdqov7eFjbrbFrwvNnc/RWyPG2LuH7ux EGBatUWbol0bG8PSpRIJtqA59TrjnZUU1RYJwRgMqwpHlgU9wMRPJZPBM7cPLbkaJyJz ow6L1+Nr2qT1qrkvVMC3Z8AgMMAsnBXeOP2aM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lcVs1mQe02D3kgPt7FpASTcay6sDjm5fo0V225wtDDaaJGoKcXE4+hkDOmwm9uhkPG EobTnIBhjm4maQt8WvlAxjGRaatMV0Rg4pYxCWWKTscPwB/vN1dTa2wX5q5ScV60CTlk nIZr8XpvQ+IuxywhRJnKoynap6J0b4++GneNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.230.208 with SMTP id jn16mr1128027qcb.106.1267333637901; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:07:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:07:17 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92641002272107h5d11959eia88984c83ebe484a@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:07:26 -0000 "cdcontrol eject" ? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > What in a standard installation of FreeBSD, on a server running only > MySQL and Postgress, could cause the CD tray to open by itself from > time to time? > > Thanks in advance, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 05:20:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A84B1065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4B08FC17 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BE73A388C; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:20:44 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1267334444; x= 1269148844; bh=17Xj1/Wcxp77QDfjOzcv6eaNdyo48vOtQqh/AJ725EU=; b=G bwFIr+4CUNJPXYC5MUr3efQipyQqAFX3Dje3UwuIF5ZJ6P2qs7RQO4Wx7T6wQQck 1MQ0z/eovU+wD2gehT8EzY/zzmD/fa5br3ottfS/zCHvA/uweJ8BHNqqHs4GFJCw DrC9pdZfg/48onEfwl/HvisquuLUjiIILUFlm1wtiA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id v01FDhKeTuSl; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:20:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DE993A388A; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:20:44 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1S5Khtd095695; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:20:43 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:20:43 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201002280520.o1S5Khtd095695@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: nlandys@gmail.com In-reply-to: <560f92641002272107h5d11959eia88984c83ebe484a@mail.gmail.com> (message from Nerius Landys on Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:07:17 -0800) References: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <560f92641002272107h5d11959eia88984c83ebe484a@mail.gmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:20:53 -0000 > "cdcontrol eject" ? Then what would be causing "cdcontrol eject"? This has been going on for many releases of FreeBSD (5 to 7) and only on Intel Motherboards. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 10:54:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEF7106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA458FC17 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nlgn5-0003N6-MA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:54:27 -0800 Message-ID: <27734134.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:54:27 -0800 (PST) From: Colin Brace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cb@lim.nl Subject: can't bring ath0 up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:54:28 -0000 Hi all, I have just upgrade my FreeBSD server from 7 to 8. Everything seems to be working OK, except the Atheros-based wireless network card, which I had configured as an access point and which worked fine under 7 for several years. The command: # ifconfig ath0 up works fine, but anything else returns an error message. For example: # ifconfig ath0 192.168.3.1 ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): Invalid argument or this, copied & pasted directly from the FreeBSD Handbook: # ifconfig ath0 ssid freebsdap mode 11g mediaopt hostap inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument Any ideas on what is going on here? ----- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/can%27t-bring-ath0-up-tp27734134p27734134.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 11:10:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECC91065670 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284CA8FC1B for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1SBAXWX013604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:10:33 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:10:33 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions References: <2e8230611002261650oe500cb9qa9b52336e4e717bf@mail.gmail.com> <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:10:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 28/02/2010 01:56:27, Chad Perrin wrote: > Actually, once your project becomes a commercial enterprise, the GPL > stops allowing reference to upstream sources to suit the requirements of > code redistribution. If you sell GPLed software, you have to provide the > sources yourself -- and, if you offer the *option* of access to the > sources without actually ensuring that everybody gets a copy of the > sources right away, you have to maintain sources for each distributed > version for a number of years after the last such distribution. I'm not > saying you *don't* have to maintain sources that long after the fact if > you make sure everybody gets a copy right away; I haven't read the text > of the GPL in detail in a while, and don't recall that specific detail. Hmmm... I think the concept of 'modification' is pretty important here. If you're just redistributing software without modifying it, you've fulfilled the intent of the GPL simply by giving a link to a well-known download site. After all, what's the difference between that, and your outsourcing a download facility to a service provider like, say, SourceForge? If you're distributing /modified/ GPL'd code, then yes, you have to make your modifications available for download. Ideally that would be by donating them back to the core project, but if they aren't acceptable for whatever reason, then you do have to slap them on a web/ftp site somewhere. > Note that I'm not a lawyer, and this does not constitute legal advice. > My only direct legal advice is to seek legal advice from a professional. It's a sad world where we have to keep restating the obvious in disclaimers: anyone believing the advice they get from a bunch of semi-anonymous people they only know from a mailing list deserves everything they get[*]. Whatever happened to caveat emptor? Cheers, Matthew [*] Generally that would be a better result than from much paid-for support... - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuKTykACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzKhwCgglHBXzABf7W2AZp2S+5TT/UK jlIAn3fmByk119lL8d8pauwUWGldneKR =U73K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 11:19:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D861065670 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8198FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1SBJD3A013683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:19:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8A5131.2090503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:19:13 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:19:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 28/02/2010 05:01:48, Olivier Nicole wrote: > What in a standard installation of FreeBSD, on a server running only > MySQL and Postgress, could cause the CD tray to open by itself from > time to time? Dodgy hardware? If the manual eject button is a bit sticky, it could have that effect. Seems the most likely explanation to me. Otherwise, you'ld have to send a specific command to the device to make it open up -- something that would be pretty unlikely to happen randomly. Unless you're running any applications that understand how to make the CD eject? Something along the lines of camcontrol/atacontrol/cdcontrol? Perhaps hald/dbus -- not that there's any reason to run those on a dedicated DB server? Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuKUTEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxkhACcCwi057f6b7h/5dtHiRUMsrLN cOAAn1ZFr5UwqLBPlZG+kKTaw4XuuvAk =qOAT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 11:44:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4950106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B558FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:58204 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NlhYm-0007bI-5Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:43:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 53762 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Feb 2010 12:43:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:43:42 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100228114342.GA53691@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> References: <2e8230611002261650oe500cb9qa9b52336e4e717bf@mail.gmail.com> <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1NlhYm-0007bI-5Z. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1NlhYm-0007bI-5Z 2cc89d5ff6e59444281d6a89c597a827 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:44:38 -0000 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:10:33AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 28/02/2010 01:56:27, Chad Perrin wrote: > > Actually, once your project becomes a commercial enterprise, the GPL > > stops allowing reference to upstream sources to suit the requirements of > > code redistribution. If you sell GPLed software, you have to provide the > > sources yourself -- and, if you offer the *option* of access to the > > sources without actually ensuring that everybody gets a copy of the > > sources right away, you have to maintain sources for each distributed > > version for a number of years after the last such distribution. I'm not > > saying you *don't* have to maintain sources that long after the fact if > > you make sure everybody gets a copy right away; I haven't read the text > > of the GPL in detail in a while, and don't recall that specific detail. > > Hmmm... I think the concept of 'modification' is pretty important > here. If you're just redistributing software without modifying it, > you've fulfilled the intent of the GPL simply by giving a link to a > well-known download site. After all, what's the difference between > that, and your outsourcing a download facility to a service provider > like, say, SourceForge? The difference is that when you just give a link to a well-known site you have no guarantees that they will keep the source for that particular version of the software in question for as long as needed. Going by the strict letter of the GPL (v2) I don't see that merely providing a link to somebody else's site is sufficient. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 11:52:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F935106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15D58FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23510E77C; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:54:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aT8-AKO3Qdcl; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:54:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.eskk.nu (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5087410E50A; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:54:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from 78.70.46.42 (SquirrelMail authenticated user leslie) by www.eskk.nu with HTTP; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:54:02 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <27734134.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <27734134.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:54:02 +0100 From: "Leslie Jensen" To: "Colin Brace" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-RC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't bring ath0 up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:52:14 -0000 > > Hi all, > > I have just upgrade my FreeBSD server from 7 to 8. Everything seems to be > working OK, except the Atheros-based wireless network card, which I had > configured as an access point and which worked fine under 7 for several > years. > > The command: > > # ifconfig ath0 up > > works fine, but anything else returns an error message. For example: > > # ifconfig ath0 192.168.3.1 > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): Invalid argument > > or this, copied & pasted directly from the FreeBSD Handbook: > > # ifconfig ath0 ssid freebsdap mode 11g mediaopt hostap inet 192.168.0.1 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument > > Any ideas on what is going on here? > > ----- > Colin Brace > Amsterdam > http://lim.nl > -- If it's a wireless you need to set wlan0 as described in the handbook. This is new from version 8. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 12:00:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE85B106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5988FC15 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1SBxubV014114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:59:56 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8A5ABC.4060804@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:59:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <2e8230611002261650oe500cb9qa9b52336e4e717bf@mail.gmail.com> <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228114342.GA53691@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20100228114342.GA53691@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:00:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 28/02/2010 11:43:42, Erik Trulsson wrote: > The difference is that when you just give a link to a well-known site > you have no guarantees that they will keep the source for that > particular version of the software in question for as long as needed. Uh -- so what? Until the download site disappears, there's no problem. If it does disappear, then /obviously/ you have to make alternative arrangements. But that is a bridge that doesn't need to be crossed until you've reached it. 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([112.229.152.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm2481203pzk.14.2010.02.28.04.38.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:38:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:38:45 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:00:58 -0000 Hi, I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some flags to gcc. Kinds of "-march=core2" , i tried to modify /etc/make.conf e.g CFLAGS += -march=core2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? And is that useful to let gcc select cpu specified asm code ? -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 13:27:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204611065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-10.bnguk.net (atmail-10.bnguk.net [80.74.253.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71D18FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-10.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NljAd-00050S-H2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:26:55 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C50E34AC20; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:26:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:26:54 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Subject: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:27:11 -0000 I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is woefully small: $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. 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Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 14:24:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E9A106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:24:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE698FC33 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so349017eya.9 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:24:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LbZ28DHtSe7E2vvgnlptC7l3QfRIMgTpSewnOklP+NQ=; b=gq8IiQSMbRDIFZ6ZeCsyqE1NnMV8LyaTnKmFq2liJUDCOBK/bPPOisXwVdyITI4VtB mfnCE31I/Z7dnCt5CCpDFe1s1GIG7gSHCqrmB6LKN+fUG1JkL9MEX13fb8a1YyIreFn7 TaU79X1VjqB5vKVpo0j0UO7Jpd4r9QvnFByqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GN9gI1yiw3HpRzKFMxTKCMyCsxovBrB6CyT7ULNJttyv1DONgLJt442iZGhwgYy1xB ClWhalTemKg15m7LuOgZTkVvJ0bjZgRDQCC/k69S3VrqFyrDI6PpDgHl9nduR2UvaI6d XmyW5mRwG9xfa7moBgb5N/t15iyAtS9wFZEdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.97.78 with SMTP id k14mr2167252ebn.24.1267367052796; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:24:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:24:12 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751002280624w6f38d297o65b88301b3e5f8d@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Aaron Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:24:26 -0000 On 2/28/10, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Hi, > I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some > flags to gcc. > Kinds of "-march=core2" , i tried to modify /etc/make.conf > > e.g CFLAGS += -march=core2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse > But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? It is bad idea to compile kernel with custom flags. And gcc in FreeBSD doesn't know about core2, use 'native' if you must. > > And is that useful to let gcc select cpu specified asm code ? Only for some userland stuff like openssl. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 14:37:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFD5106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8388FC2A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj7 with SMTP id 7so1274546pwj.13 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:37:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8hQfYbP7QFHCFmK2LVP/+J6efLAlOo1ZM3ieF03Fdps=; b=AWWjEz9lMHj0XZl5kZyzV0JhjXfo+Pm4RtY5pXml/v71Ga0r+xL5+bXQYlJZPmwuxg czVfvxhtMl8uyDhsENpOz7+5Cb1VecSfggyEzKWNXzRVXiqu1D5gPPlZAqlrMYSC9kB+ YYyqOwQbc3DpeJUapfBTCOqZ2yGmJpVIYAc7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Cscgwh6tmuilXNjbAHaInq/vZQlbbSitlFzV0/4lD0wokRkFeoUgjKl9Y1d6xpBt1z OJvNZcsxx0JJtg9MnzFuZFa/4YsVGg0aRVWY0twtRW+6qkuvyEVNuF0fDYS/hXFduAsP Lpgs3ejiEeHz7vcsNdjeafsk5fEyKdbeg65ns= Received: by 10.142.247.33 with SMTP id u33mr1791399wfh.219.1267367856829; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.103? ([112.229.152.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm2621259pzk.3.2010.02.28.06.37.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:37:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8A7FA7.1070200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:37:27 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul B Mahol References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> <3a142e751002280624w6f38d297o65b88301b3e5f8d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e751002280624w6f38d297o65b88301b3e5f8d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:37:40 -0000 Really ? It's bad to use custom flags to compile kernel , why do you think so ? I'd like to know more about this : ) So setting optimize compiler flags is only useful for userland stuff ? Paul B Mahol wrote: > On 2/28/10, Aaron Lewis wrote: > >> Hi, >> I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some >> flags to gcc. >> Kinds of "-march=core2" , i tried to modify /etc/make.conf >> >> e.g CFLAGS += -march=core2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse >> But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? >> > It is bad idea to compile kernel with custom flags. And gcc in FreeBSD > doesn't know about core2, > use 'native' if you must. > > >> And is that useful to let gcc select cpu specified asm code ? >> > > Only for some userland stuff like openssl. > -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 14:40:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611A31065680 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB328FC1E for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so849522ewy.3 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:40:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=n5qSXfOdyWux0u+ygy0I9zC/JJvhO2t35cGq54bi0as=; b=cbM62MvHtA4nkFfDVKtyC4Jsxi0YyWRTE2rywJ6WqZkVdAUNUDEOFSF5MGWxYkcmyh p1yoJ4O0chiK+1Tb1vd7mmzdHRDgw5BZnMEou4UqqmuAjIZ3pNdscCpcUdW3Ys0JlfW7 Uf6rWINdc5wuigIQWwhTu+xZcV9yXqf1oMqEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kqYTNib30wb4uCwwK6O3tC4x3tAOgbWXnB/k1sNldCZunMvxul0fKet33zr6lkQEp4 3KINrDSgeZdd/dldiv8WRWYQKR0HXqBdtDdCyMpDEDm1ZcHbQNWkq/1EoKaQQvior5Ot QAA2E+62r0KQNruXNyACuSpQtUIhg1dkcYlnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.111.18 with SMTP id q18mr2015729ebp.39.1267367998814; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:39:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8A7FA7.1070200@gmail.com> References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> <3a142e751002280624w6f38d297o65b88301b3e5f8d@mail.gmail.com> <4B8A7FA7.1070200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:39:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751002280639rdb25d3ajd688caecfedfacbb@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Aaron Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:40:15 -0000 Do not top post. On 2/28/10, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Really ? It's bad to use custom flags to compile kernel , why do you > think so ? > I'd like to know more about this : ) Use google. > > So setting optimize compiler flags is only useful for userland stuff ? > > Paul B Mahol wrote: >> On 2/28/10, Aaron Lewis wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some >>> flags to gcc. >>> Kinds of "-march=core2" , i tried to modify /etc/make.conf >>> >>> e.g CFLAGS += -march=core2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse >>> But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? >>> >> It is bad idea to compile kernel with custom flags. And gcc in FreeBSD >> doesn't know about core2, >> use 'native' if you must. >> >> >>> And is that useful to let gcc select cpu specified asm code ? >>> >> >> Only for some userland stuff like openssl. >> > > > -- > Best Regards, > Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 > irc: A4r0n on freenode > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 15:31:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCF51065670 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 374488FC26 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85398 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2010 15:31:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sQUhqSBLqmZthywiNK+KYh7F9QK+/qEfBVt8Oa98bKeC7owD3D2tk8TmDB+SRe/CP8c/0ePhJ2qnf76nWMkRXHID7jN+IjhchV/9IYJuMQQTcyqwWi48yTo/od73K25mZ4a0ih7WP4HDk9FfK9LpJhlcAyDsHN6jpfjizjL/Cjg= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2010 07:31:55 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: rk2Br3sVM1ksAY8gbWMGFjHqDNw8SmuX54OdDV02eT0kB1dlSn4X4g0ouxzrihtkqixK65DwI.keKg5L2U1BkPX2qFl8uODoumGlvnMQMBuFuIeeQEZMMej6pNYhbqz4t9Hsf2DTG8R.beudVFVCB_VnHv91PGBX8QM5DXZ5tqRj3KxzCr5dqR8MW0.hlsJMGceqktpEnuniqJ0OJdH8vM85Bl5UMhIx9LaRu3sABcAuU1m4.2Cb7mTsrYNiT_DZwZzYWNW2WGgC3iTOWp_n5F6UhrSdjYiRmd2FwWuR6JgzWi4GGxzqa5sikQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6ABAD22838 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:31:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:31:55 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100228103155.667ed802@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: compiler flags X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:31:59 -0000 I am attempting to redo a Gateway GT5220 PC. The CPU is recognized as: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2009.16-MHz 686-class CPU) Now, would it be advantageous to set the CPU type in the '/etc/make.conf' and possibly '/etc/src.conf' files. According to the "/usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf" file, this is probably what I want: CPUTYPE=athlon64 I am assuming that the FreeBSD 'make' does not support 'native'. The version of 'gcc': gcc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | The Ancient Doctrine of Mind Over Matter: I don't mind... and you don't matter. As revealed to reporter G. Rivera by Swami Havabanana From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 15:42:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8D5106566B for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E518FC17 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1SFgEsV008011 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:42:14 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1SFgEZm005815 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:42:14 +0200 Received: from pluto.universe (62.1.182.68.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [62.1.182.68]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1SFgDlE007249 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:42:13 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral From: Elias Chrysocheris To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:42:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p2; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002281742.03674.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:42:18 -0000 On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but > looking at the root slice it is woefully small: > > $ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet > connection to my desktop. > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition > table? > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > Regards, > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you have another medium to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will store the images of your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then use FixIt console to re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you have another hard disk device, you can use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course you must have sliced the second device first. I've done this many times. The first was to remove an openSUSE partition I had, living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical device). The new disk became my boot disk. The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard disk device and at the same time be formated as ZFS. Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first installed (of cource updated...) Elias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 16:10:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6B91065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.piggybox@virgin.net) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7880C8FC22 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100228160952.QEYU10950.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:09:52 +0000 Received: from [81.105.212.209] (helo=laptop.piggybox) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NlliH-0007Sk-2w for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:09:49 +0000 Received: from laptop.piggybox (localhost.piggybox [127.0.0.1]) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1SG93SN002359 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:09:03 GMT (envelope-from peter@laptop.piggybox) Received: (from peter@localhost) by laptop.piggybox (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o1SG92JC002358 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:09:02 GMT (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:09:02 +0000 From: Peter Harrison To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100228160902.GA1926@laptop.piggybox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=ro7wes2tlOQA:10 a=CFW-xmd5ICf-KdtBTykA:9 a=L6P0x3slK3LdOji4GIb7FPtiew4A:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: Subject: Automounting large fat usb drive... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:10:26 -0000 I'm having a problem automounting a large (298gb) usb hard disk. I use Xfce and have thunar set up to automount via hal. This works fine for ufs formatted usb disks and small fat usb disks. But it won't mount my 298gb disk, failing with the error: mount_msdosfs: /dev/msdosfs/ELEMENTS: Disk too big, try '-o large' mount option: Invalid argument . My /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi looks like this: true and I can see the 'large' option listed against the device in lshal. Mounting from the command line with % mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0s1 mnt/ works fine Any advice on what I need to do to make hal mount this thing? Thanks in advance. Peter Harrison. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 17:38:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23B31065688 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3964F8FC31 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1SHefMA006932 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:40:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1SHefbH006925 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:40:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: FreeBsd-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:40:40 +0100 Message-ID: <1267378840.23135.155.camel@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.29.91 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Subject: [Fwd: Re: / slice too small] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:38:48 -0000 Sorry, I forgot to include the list! Uli. -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: Peter Ulrich Kruppa > An: Frank Shute > Betreff: Re: / slice too small > Datum: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:52:05 +0100 >=20 > Am Sonntag, den 28.02.2010, 13:26 +0000 schrieb Frank Shute: > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but > > looking at the root slice it is woefully small: > >=20 > > $ df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev > >=20 > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet > > connection to my desktop. > >=20 > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition > > table? > Check if your /boot/kernel directory *much* bigger than let's say about 4= 5 MB. > Then you probably have built your kernel with debugging symbols which > will make it too big for your root partition. > In /etc/make.conf add the line > INSTALL_NODEBUG=3D"yes" > and rebuild your kernel. >=20 > Good luck > =09 > Uli.=20 >=20 > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > >=20 > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 18:51:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B516106564A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4528FC1F for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100228185100.FEEN1916.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.0.79.23]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id nWqy1d0040WARwL02Wqy0c; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:50:58 -0500 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=eB45exa5s5AhTaO7pHhA6OPbhzilKlxGV7deooRAVXM= c=1 sm=1 a=xxHbGvPHv4NDIGoarCYyzQ==:17 a=FiuD1RXlcrB2WaEXE1EA:9 a=CW8x11JAs7UbkoNDKwfl50KtzCkA:4 a=xxHbGvPHv4NDIGoarCYyzQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4B8ABB16.6020509@cox.net> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:51:02 -0600 From: Derek Funk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100228-0, 02/28/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: wireless setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:51:00 -0000 I am trying to setup a wireless nic on a machine I just installed pcbsd 8.0 on. Its not going well. output from ifconfig -a is: re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=389b ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 inet6 fe80::21e:33ff:fe99:a1a3%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g status: associated pflog0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 33200 pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460 syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 lagg0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 inet6 fe80::21e:33ff:fe99:a1a3%lagg0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 10.254.239.136 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.254.239.255 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active laggproto failover laggport: wlan0 flags=0<> laggport: re0 flags=5 wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 inet6 fe80::21e:33ff:fe99:a1a3%wlan0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect) status: no carrier ssid "" channel 12 (2467 Mhz 11g) regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode WPA1+WPA2/802.11i privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF txpower 20 bmiss 7 scanvalid 450 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst roaming MANUAL bintval 0 lo1: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3 inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 and my rc.conf is:(with some unrelated info omitted) background_dhclient="YES" # Enable the pcbsd startup / shutdown scripts pcbsdinit_enable="YES" # Denyhosts Startup denyhosts_enable="YES" # Enable the firewall pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" pf_enable="YES" pf_flags="" # Enable ipfw and open it by default since we have PF firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" # Enable IPV6 support ipv6_enable="YES" # Auto-Enabled NICs from pc-sysinstall ifconfig_re0="up" ifconfig_ath0="`ifconfig re0 ether`" ifconfig_ath0="ether ${ifconfig_ath0##*ether }" wlans_ath0="wlan0" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport re0 laggport wlan0 DHCP" hostname="pcbsd-6415" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" I have looked in the handbook and searched the net and tried what I found and still no go. I am trying to connect to open access points around me that a windows machine has no problem using. Any help is appreciated. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 19:59:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C361065674 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625E48FC15 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so1036793gwa.13 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:59:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jphp7AC66hQo9NLzfNqHHZSvRBKxMy74AgEM9UEfHHE=; b=g9KgXZCljHJ1c47zrFWacLlMQMSm7ga/Vp8w5EQKyVgswaYApUaNoLENqTq28O0VYa ZvOWGFpZbmP1AO32D1mLQI9AmTseBqtQIBzNaoJlczCW9M0Ea0k/DybkeNNL45LTlF+/ DExMQ04CqbN1Mv4ECyG7hchFBlDZuqU34u1ts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FHVFlpk5iSIHYm1Hg2VTq5ouzbhkdRlrgl6eOh17zaMRR4KqiBJAZnoB5R7Fo4lpbE /Sp3LkbJp+qa88A7aLpLG0JtogZ5mmkyebdd0Lv6BxYxeMqY36Zl3VKWsYZPzfTgDYW1 F0tjeiC0qdmRjLHMSyE+Uo/VORFG5ux4EQRY8= Received: by 10.150.127.29 with SMTP id z29mr3985310ybc.39.1267387160832; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.103? (pool-96-254-203-152.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.203.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm820277yxd.44.2010.02.28.11.59.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:59:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8ACB0F.6020300@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:59:11 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:59:25 -0000 I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and sometimes the entire operating system can lock up for several minutes. This can be a pretty painful thing and makes the system seem very unstable. I am using UFS filesystems on the disks. It seems to happen on multiple disks that i use. I was hopeful changes to the FreeBSD USB drivers might have improved things but they are as bad as ever. Help is appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 20:51:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CEC1065674 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03888FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6D1191DE4E2; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:51:48 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.13; tzolkin = 4 Ben; haab = 11 Kayab Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:51:48 -0800 Message-ID: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:51:50 -0000 I've upgraded to Perl 5.10, but when I tried to install a few things that depended on "perl", the package installed perl5.8, because that must be what it was compiled with. How do I tell the ports system that perl5.8 should *never* be used, and rather than install a package that needs it, I can fall back to a port build? I'm using portsnap to update things, so I don't think i can just delete the 5.8 port, because it will likely just get reinstalled. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 21:49:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BD31065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f173.google.com (mail-pz0-f173.google.com [209.85.222.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A796F8FC23 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk3 with SMTP id 3so1388908pzk.24 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:49:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OHF28BtitvjsSumuEHV6kUF9suGjW0QQZVcCdMq6+jw=; b=KZ9L+u2AWFq5KRKV2KDv1Qyj1cmLFwHlGyhAgXuogzOCDhwm2yx5So2gOdg2JyIRU6 1MUZkm4sD4HAAxtL39XW184XB5fbrNRZcQLpVzX6jHwevTcFf2vH3hj/VENxT6KkHr1g honwmQLGsDwIHW2jmMUoArOFVCmhwGvKiMCqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mcgUHJLCyUeh58F7RvTjvdRVPMSjClG4lSQr5bIPbe49kjFK4DNMtbM9rjof5VSfmU fq2dJg+j25B9Kio7xzbbF3SvaACps8a5B7o3aa5XSvdVfO/g2EGU9Y9VVbU/WBkn+Hnc IkgAoSmnXnsupTjQFN8/qwSD2GfzoQRAUrylM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.56.19 with SMTP id e19mr2014241wfa.279.1267393763049; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:49:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:49:23 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:49:31 -0000 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > I've upgraded to Perl 5.10, but when I tried to install a few > things that depended on "perl", the package installed perl5.8, because > that must be what it was compiled with. > > How do I tell the ports system that perl5.8 should *never* be used, and > rather > than install a package that needs it, I can fall back to a port build? > > I'm using portsnap to update things, so I don't think i can just delete the > 5.8 port, because it will likely just get reinstalled. > See /usr/ports/UPDATING and /etc/make.conf -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 21:53:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E234106566C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0546C8FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A907F1DE4CD; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:53:16 -0800 (PST) To: Adam Vande More References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.13; tzolkin = 4 Ben; haab = 11 Kayab Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:53:16 -0800 In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:49:23 -0600") Message-ID: <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:53:17 -0000 >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Vande More writes: Adam> See /usr/ports/UPDATING and /etc/make.conf Doesn't help. Packages that are compiled against 5.8 still want to install 5.8. I want this to fatal out, so I know to build from port, not use package. "portinstall -Pc MUMBLE" is just too damn easy to give up the "-P". -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 22:14:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE321065675 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1938FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so149311fxm.3 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=apmHtFLVO6lugSByVodsh+PAYO2+7c5fFQQje3qjiQY=; b=hmtviYKhzHZdWb/TSWC98akmkhMpe+++KUmLaSVlo9MfIw+CHXZtz3uvNkUuviKO79 09MTpNFj+Fd+06dtCi8lNxlI0A5HW1YS7yY8W1eLGAsksNeIsZN6ZYIfMeGPUFsWYLDm AYLet1zHSCqYO/3s+2cyk3AEcg5pR+PdMz8yA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jtUoDPhMsAEy0Hc6RG47CodpaoGVPZayqjBTsuo/Fc1dpsvNRvZDFPl0HUYLRtqHWI p/GJKus2LHLh5kJ6YfnIFqV0WmZoKR8u5OX/BQXVUC4qhRnSb8NfFkLvCC4ppos6CLfm Mh+y59OjryCS0tqJ/LRPfjtKojS0PLSt/arQk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.5 with SMTP id 5mr367746hbp.137.1267395276014; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:14:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002281742.03674.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201002281742.03674.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:14:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Elias Chrysocheris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:14:43 -0000 On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris wrote: > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to upgrade to 8.0 but > > looking at the root slice it is woefully small: > > > > $ df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a 100MB ethernet > > connection to my desktop. > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change the partition > > table? > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you have another > medium > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will store the images > of > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then use FixIt console > to > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) your images in > the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you have another hard disk device, > you can use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to > the > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course you must have > sliced the second device first. > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an openSUSE partition I > had, > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time was to move my > FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical device). The new disk became my boot > disk. > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard disk device and > at > the same time be formated as ZFS. > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having ZFS and the > operating system is the same as that I first installed (of cource > updated...) > > Elias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. Just make sure you use the following flags rsync -aHP --numeric-ids I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored countless freebsd boxes. When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks eg fdisk -B ad0 bsdlabel -B ad0s1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 22:19:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49401065670 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:679::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79B8FC17 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B66587A3; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:19:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from core.draftnet (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:19:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Cran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:19:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20100228103155.667ed802@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20100228103155.667ed802@scorpio.seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002282219.06374.bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: compiler flags X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:19:11 -0000 On Sunday 28 February 2010 15:31:55 Jerry wrote: > I am attempting to redo a Gateway GT5220 PC. The CPU is recognized as: > > CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2009.16-MHz 686-class > CPU) > > Now, would it be advantageous to set the CPU type in the > '/etc/make.conf' and possibly '/etc/src.conf' files. I'd guess that since amd64 is a relatively new platform there shouldn't be much advantage to specifying the CPUTYPE. On i386 there's a huge difference between an i486 and core2 so it can make sense to specify the CPU, but there's much less difference between the various amd64 CPUs. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 22:57:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3441065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492EC8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26D7F28416; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:57:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B8AF4C3.30204@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:57:07 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B8A5131.2090503@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B8A5131.2090503@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:57:09 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 28/02/2010 05:01:48, Olivier Nicole wrote: > >> What in a standard installation of FreeBSD, on a server running only >> MySQL and Postgress, could cause the CD tray to open by itself from >> time to time? > > Dodgy hardware? If the manual eject button is a bit sticky, it could > have that effect. Seems the most likely explanation to me. > > Otherwise, you'ld have to send a specific command to the device to make > it open up -- something that would be pretty unlikely to happen > randomly. Unless you're running any applications that understand how to > make the CD eject? Something along the lines of > camcontrol/atacontrol/cdcontrol? Perhaps hald/dbus -- not that there's > any reason to run those on a dedicated DB server? I had a 4x CD burner that liked to do that. I chalked it up to drive hardware failure after the second time it ejected the tray during a disc read, and launched the rapidly spinning CD across the room. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 23:00:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608F61065679 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D7348FC1C for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8149 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2010 23:00:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2010 23:00:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=BwjqOvXflfig5J0dcbyYX9BDI0UPT9u8Uinzqkp4aQ1KdNwK3JCVDAy69W+4+hUMhFpVQsD7P6PWRa+4baVvMu/4hnLSvo6dSx23JxtcgE2vbOfoCcq2by1DT6Ttxgd3; Received: from 63-253-113-170.ip.mcleodusa.net ([63.253.113.170] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nls7b-00077m-4l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:00:24 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:00:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:00:31 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20100228230031.GA2527@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <2e8230611002261650oe500cb9qa9b52336e4e717bf@mail.gmail.com> <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 63.253.113.170 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:00:25 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:10:33AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > On 28/02/2010 01:56:27, Chad Perrin wrote: > > Actually, once your project becomes a commercial enterprise, the GPL > > stops allowing reference to upstream sources to suit the requirements of > > code redistribution. If you sell GPLed software, you have to provide t= he > > sources yourself -- and, if you offer the *option* of access to the > > sources without actually ensuring that everybody gets a copy of the > > sources right away, you have to maintain sources for each distributed > > version for a number of years after the last such distribution. I'm not > > saying you *don't* have to maintain sources that long after the fact if > > you make sure everybody gets a copy right away; I haven't read the text > > of the GPL in detail in a while, and don't recall that specific detail. >=20 > Hmmm... I think the concept of 'modification' is pretty important > here. If you're just redistributing software without modifying it, > you've fulfilled the intent of the GPL simply by giving a link to a > well-known download site. After all, what's the difference between > that, and your outsourcing a download facility to a service provider > like, say, SourceForge? >=20 > If you're distributing /modified/ GPL'd code, then yes, you have to > make your modifications available for download. Ideally that would be > by donating them back to the core project, but if they aren't > acceptable for whatever reason, then you do have to slap them on a > web/ftp site somewhere. Unfortunately, such measures are not really sufficient -- at least for my own level of comfort if I'm going to redistribute GPLed code. For instance, one must ask what happens if upstream doesn't accept your modification. Do you just not distribute your modified version, then, or do you go back to figuring out how to distribute it directly in accordance with the GPL? Must you hold off on distribution the entire time until either upstream accepts the modification or you come up with some other distribution means to make up for the lack of upstream acceptance? Is referring to upstream actually in accord with the GPL, or is it just likely to eliminate the likelihood of getting sued for an infringement that actually occurred? Obviously, a lawyer should be consulted to answer such questions. I find it's a lot cheaper to just treat all these questions as if they are answered in the least friendly manner. >=20 > > Note that I'm not a lawyer, and this does not constitute legal advice. > > My only direct legal advice is to seek legal advice from a professional. >=20 > It's a sad world where we have to keep restating the obvious in > disclaimers: anyone believing the advice they get from a bunch of > semi-anonymous people they only know from a mailing list deserves > everything they get[*]. Whatever happened to caveat emptor? I agree completely; it *is* a sad thing. Still, I don't want anyone claiming I represented myself as a lawyer and trying to sue me, so I keep offering the lame disclaimers. >=20 > [*] Generally that would be a better result than from much paid-for > support... That's also probably true, especially given that many of us actually have more first-hand knowledge of open source licensing than a lot of copyright lawyers whose jobs revolve around well established precedent for how and when one is allowed to sing "Happy Birthday" or how best to threaten (ex-)employees with lawsuits if they ever try to get a job with a competitor. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuK9Y8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVvggCdEe8Bl/PZ8lAba2P3+8iKemxe jsEAoMDe6X4VjxgBjldsHqtmeLHxTfCc =zaR/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 23:02:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69E41065674 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6218FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19278 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2010 23:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2010 23:02:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=gnqhL2uBTuczNyZ2Ih4zHep+aFSuKvVlrPCgQxpbqeQIO32YzcC9+AatnHtuSwB0qmryZriwhS59W2/bJL+s/F3I2V9WnubIjAFFOrff54VTfE2q21Bu3m/r/l/0WROQ; Received: from 63-253-113-170.ip.mcleodusa.net ([63.253.113.170] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nls9x-0000rD-5Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:02:50 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:02:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:02:58 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20100228230258.GB2527@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <2e8230611002261650oe500cb9qa9b52336e4e717bf@mail.gmail.com> <4B88D0BB.201@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228015627.GA5609@guilt.hydra> <4B8A4F29.4070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100228114342.GA53691@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <4B8A5ABC.4060804@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B8A5ABC.4060804@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 63.253.113.170 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:02:51 -0000 --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:59:56AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > On 28/02/2010 11:43:42, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > The difference is that when you just give a link to a well-known site > > you have no guarantees that they will keep the source for that > > particular version of the software in question for as long as needed. >=20 > Uh -- so what? Until the download site disappears, there's no problem. > If it does disappear, then /obviously/ you have to make alternative > arrangements. But that is a bridge that doesn't need to be crossed > until you've reached it. Actually, a couple of Linux distribution projects have been threatened with lawsuits for referring to upstream sources, even while the sources were still there, because those projects were identified by the people making such threats as commercial enterprises. Probably the highest profile instance was MEPIS. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuK9iIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXwXgCfaiSj4OMGKMyylUB4JDtfy3BG VRgAmwQeNPPs7r5okDXyH1PQhiXd/3BH =YoL0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 28 23:29:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F24F1065672 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F488FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so185126fxm.3 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:29:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hPlftYMNZiAwgG7ZnHFI4IwOmcxUc2USNtXyBNQNulY=; b=oMh7/uIZMutQHNMd0ltIgvAVXzj1ugM3c9oKAchs3O/1F60GIMlkTaJ9yAfFZEehiR RDpeWKzQDawTtmrkrfuifyd21gO/53Nq6tgl92BhRhTX0ec9eeFryQO7VkN8QOe/N5pT EKsR0K/YPz1CE3y8PqCWJG7OC24uluN4KvkLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xbHNEVaa6UCcH64Tl5vsggCCHSGfRAjuAS2vfa+mT5XvAywoVqMgamL8MApkUIZFHV 6UFW8pyOCBq/FvFApeQOzTvlBjmleG/Eb20x7dJdzOsTuuPZpt3m6VzWPgc58LiJkw7X pZFqedZMj76tP0XH9HPJSNukVBJImQVAreMXE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.186.79 with SMTP id f15mr340451hbh.1.1267399770115; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:29:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201002281924.o1SJO6df078229@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <201002281924.o1SJO6df078229@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:29:10 +0200 Message-ID: To: gerald@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/144357: emulators/wine build failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:29:39 -0000 > I am not seeing this in any of my tests, nor is the FreeBSD ports > cluster, nor have I seen any other report related to this. =A0This > means something must be different/special with your system. > > Is your ports collection up-to-date? =A0(Running 'portupgrade -a' > may be an option, then.) My ports collection is fully up-to-date except for wine (portsnap fetch update; portmaster -a) > > Which version of flex are you using (you can find out running > /usr/local/bin/flex --version)? %flex --version flex version 2.5.4 > > Which version of FreeBSD are you using? =A0Which compiler are you > using to build this port? =A0Anything special on your system? %uname -rms FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 i386 my CC is not set in /etc/make.conf so I assume it is the system default. WITHOUT_NLS=3DYES OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=3Dyes PERL_VERSION=3D5.10.1 that is all. Perhaps it is the NLS which is causing a problem? > > Are you sure you did not modify anything in the port itself or > the extracted source tree? =A0The error really is one that should > either appear always, or never, in general. =A0Since nobody else > is seeing this, I'm afraid you'll have to do some debugging on > your side. I've tried to play around /after/ I get this error. On a clean make (make distclean; make install clean) I still get this error. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D144357 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 01:27:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BA01065670 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F07C8FC15 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355AA3A3862; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:54 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1267406814; x= 1269221214; bh=61BBSEwn/SNOeAKqYXDTnGkTYUp2/TfUbGN8R5V2lOQ=; b=e X8MiT3z1NjZjoJZCtjT+8T330NCi6+KsNZmVQCLgGNtBvO5kggZKz1LweyjUgPXZ gpsZr0o3GCx+X9q/m4x0xx7pYl+JB1qbHuZVvYx79xqr1rATQdSw216i71F8wiUM ptpAQaE6L4zs3L7AkUY/pB9/Ol4T5FK2svgeElchJ4= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id QpIsI9NRM75J; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:54 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAE3F3A3853; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:53 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o211Qito010377; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:44 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:44 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201003010126.o211Qito010377@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk In-reply-to: <4B8A5131.2090503@infracaninophile.co.uk> (message from Matthew Seaman on Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:19:13 +0000) References: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B8A5131.2090503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:27:06 -0000 Thanks, > > What in a standard installation of FreeBSD, on a server running only > > MySQL and Postgress, could cause the CD tray to open by itself from > > time to time? > > Dodgy hardware? If the manual eject button is a bit sticky, it could > have that effect. Seems the most likely explanation to me. Sticky button, I don't think so, I must have used that CD drive twice, only to run FreeBSD installation CD. Faulty hardware? Possibly, it happens on both machines with tha mother board and never on others. > Otherwise, you'ld have to send a specific command to the device to make > it open up -- something that would be pretty unlikely to happen > randomly. Unless you're running any applications that understand how to > make the CD eject? Something along the lines of > camcontrol/atacontrol/cdcontrol? Perhaps hald/dbus -- not that there's > any reason to run those on a dedicated DB server? I am not running any of these, as far as I know, it could be an SCSI bus reset? But then it is hardware and back to the above explanation. Thanks anyway. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 01:38:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9FD1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD38F8FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk36 with SMTP id 36so423261pzk.8 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:38:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rXJc0YgBk33D63oqzx0wfu8PlxGatBC3QwecdWInZBs=; b=b+EAjL4lY39GOMnjLSUWGq7otDYUl6a32L5tFXeI95tfYYwYGjAdSQXf5DpMlUjMuI zjuY69kB1aW19PBpvWqE80DpakvyWdfdYWhmF65P2rB5yl6b4FjHnJNE6SH4Gi9A+TbP OPoerCpEoRqfCnll2HpqqwyNhZmEmaB+UUTlQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nsQTqC5lKSWsBIi2aRYtMqw+AUia4o9fMYtsZ1oY5VKeRbOYk3bxYXZ7T3mfYLY0MR fUTGs1WsdN6MvUKPOwrINKiBfT9ByqM1s6rITwCE8xbRLkhJ+1X7SBlp792AM7AmkIjX BQrwIN7yqBWy1Bg0GcUPoUanFxUdNWe4eIYQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.120.3 with SMTP id s3mr2195301wfc.35.1267407493341; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:38:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:38:13 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:38:19 -0000 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Vande More writes: > > Adam> See /usr/ports/UPDATING and /etc/make.conf > > Doesn't help. Packages that are compiled against 5.8 still want > to install 5.8. > > I want this to fatal out, so I know to build from port, not use package. > > "portinstall -Pc MUMBLE" is just too damn easy to give up the "-P". > > If it completed successly it has to help. What are the result of each step so we can isolate the problem. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 01:40:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE39A1065670 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8402A8FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D4DA31DE2AB; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:40:55 -0800 (PST) To: Adam Vande More References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.13; tzolkin = 4 Ben; haab = 11 Kayab Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:40:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:38:13 -0600") Message-ID: <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:40:56 -0000 >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Vande More writes: Adam> If it completed successly it has to help. What are the result of each step Adam> so we can isolate the problem. It completes by installing 5.8. I'd like to prevent that. I'd like the entire portage system to consider 5.8 to be dead, both for building from ports, and for installing packages that say they depend on that. How do I get there? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 01:42:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5871065687 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05238FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so719855pvg.13 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:42:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T78xk5hN4t2i/KISkwvnm+6sB2ay0Zx8HeQyY9E7mGU=; b=f+8u27tVy14xF8UOPkjk53/8WG5VLrFYtT7kH0T2XvxCcWBqdUe+6DFBppNVHtjInL kMiloPgHXiDt4wP438a2uz7CxSCbwapQ18f64sk9EYWg+1HR3zgjD2NrEv9R8cM46xnE C0b2beB7/C30QEPHujK7IQ61ZkPHao0OMgMN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OdnR/QehmAb5gVGfqCC+n5GlJmOvPRx0FrBbVOAoUmOPmJWGmOHjFxSN0ul6+ZPfmp Q0XSJrJOVqu91c25cN2+zC+JbHdkhf6gKZGUu05YnZITQJs178DNt96wfFew8BsqyYSa t4tJ7MrIQlJWIC+CoWCinUcZxzQa2gJwCBd9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.2.9 with SMTP id 9mr2102974wfb.290.1267407775652; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:42:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:42:55 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:42:58 -0000 > > It completes by installing 5.8. I'd like to prevent that. > > I'd like the entire portage system to consider 5.8 to be dead, both > for building from ports, and for installing packages that say they > depend on that. > > How do I get there? > > Can you attach your make.conf? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 01:45:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57555106567A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCEA8FC25 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CE82D1DE4E2; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:45:26 -0800 (PST) To: Adam Vande More References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.13; tzolkin = 4 Ben; haab = 11 Kayab Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:45:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:42:55 -0600") Message-ID: <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:45:27 -0000 >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Vande More writes: Adam> Can you attach your make.conf? WITHOUT_X11=yes # added by use.perl 2010-02-28 17:41:39 PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 The problem is not ports, it's packages. If a package specifies 5.8, it installs the 5.8 package, and I'm toast. So make.conf doesn't matter. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 02:32:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2DE1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 02:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADAC8FC1F for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 02:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-13.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.13]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1533D2F6; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:32:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o212WccU002041; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:32:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:32:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Message-Id: <20100301033238.f7c0c4d8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201003010126.o211Qito010377@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <201002280501.o1S51mrT095582@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4B8A5131.2090503@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201003010126.o211Qito010377@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Eject CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:32:42 -0000 On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:26:44 +0700 (ICT), Olivier Nicole wrote: > I am not running any of these, as far as I know, it could be an SCSI > bus reset? But then it is hardware and back to the above explanation. I doubt that a SCSI bus reset can make an optical drive open (allthough it can close an open one); ATAPICAM facility, I think, can't do something similar. I would really think it may be a hardware problem, sparks on the SCSI line (or whatever kind of bus the drive uses). :-) >From my own experience: I have a CD drive (old, 16x) that tends to close automatically when opened, but just sometimes, sometimes not. It even does this if connected to power only, so there are no "controlling informations" transfered into the drive's logic. Commands like "camcontrol eject" can be used to intendedly open an optical drive, but most settings require certain user permissions (on the controlling devices) to do so, and I don't think programs like the ones you mentioned to have such abilities... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 09:02:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205E61065673 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7BE8FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so1122838fgg.13 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:02:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/7/N650OR54oq/99DOLvz5Znd8MAMqYDWQbsGaWHWZo=; b=a2nSVzgMARjA4pZEbjZdV6yjvwK02hI53q1MBUS2C8P/C0MEmvuchHyJRNrsdsjaoI 9jSUX8fq8t2xHRE6JU5baguUnuhTki+iCgyyMB8VPnZCQcTls6e3dX9CdmKo6lakj7Na Nq97Rv4v194Bhhhmc2urCGcNtkZa4Q6E88a7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QLk4/mbGJPMf1XpgVurK1qs9QcF7UR1p2KOaR9EAznsD/O9vghvAmXIiPp5Qw1IK2V qLGlGRvvpYAnJ8PS/xzG/zF+i3r1LP3magp/vT/E3FT3PmulcFTDtVVeMuqdtOsLZWx1 miobs1PikeFkSSwwwlkMSXMA8QXZWMtX37PBs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.138 with SMTP id x10mr367623hbh.134.1267434152551; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:02:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:02:32 +0200 Message-ID: <75a268721003010102n4e1cc375qdbd8f3b2acb96c40@mail.gmail.com> From: Omer Faruk Sen To: FreeBSD , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: IBM DS4800 Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:02:37 -0000 Hi , Is there anyone here that have used SAN against IBM DS4800 (Fiber). I can see disk but i can't fdisk it. # camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on isp0 bus 0: < > at scbus0 target -1 lun -1 () scbus1 on isp1 bus 0: at scbus1 target 0 lun 6 (pass0,da0) < > at scbus1 target -1 lun -1 () scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) fdisk /dev/da0 fdisk: could not detect sector size and dmesg output when system boots: registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set registered firmware set isp0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xc7efc000-0xc7efffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci36 isp0: [ITHREAD] isp0: Board Type 2422, Chip Revision 0x3, loaded F/W Revision 4.0.20 isp1: port 0x7000-0x70ff mem 0xc5ffc000-0xc5ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci7 isp1: [ITHREAD] isp1: Board Type 2422, Chip Revision 0x3, loaded F/W Revision 4.0.20 vgapci0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 22 at device 6.0 on pci1 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 and afterwards: (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 80 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error isp1: 0.0.6 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x59, scsi status == 0x0 I have used FreeBSD 7.1 and FreeBSD 7.2 but both seems to fail. On Storage side I have used Linux and Solaris with/without MPXIO as file system (there is no FreeBSD ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 09:25:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0E4106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3348FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A11D10E77C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:27:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id taapue6Lk3Ub for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:27:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D15A10E50A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:27:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8B881C.1040008@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:25:48 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100226 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Adding slice on existing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:25:55 -0000 On a dualboot system I've made some space available that I want to make a freebsd slice of. Following the instructions described here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=2726 When using sysinstall label I get this when I try to write. Error mounting /dev/ad4s4d on /data : File or directory does not exist I have created drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 1 Mar 09:51 data/ I get the same error and I try to use bsdlabel manually but I get: bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s4 bsdlabel: unable to get correct path for /dev/ad4s4: No such file or directory Any suggestions on how to solve this? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 09:55:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687F6106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1F58FC22 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o219t0cl030045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:55:01 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8B8EF4.9040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:00 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/2010 01:45:26, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Adam" == Adam Vande More writes: > > Adam> Can you attach your make.conf? > > WITHOUT_X11=yes > # added by use.perl 2010-02-28 17:41:39 > PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 > > The problem is not ports, it's packages. If a package specifies 5.8, > it installs the 5.8 package, and I'm toast. So make.conf doesn't matter. > Precompiled packages aren't going to work for this: the dependencies are compiled in. Also, specifically a perl thing: the perl version number is encoded into the library paths where modules are installed, which makes it ... challenging ... to use them with a different version of perl. For best results, install from ports rather than packages. If it's pure-perl code, then this should be hardly more onerous than installing a compiled package. XS code however will chew up some CPU cycles. Check out portmaster(8) or portupgrade(8) as the moral equivalents of the cpan(1) program to make dealing with ports more convenient. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuLjvQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw7lQCeIhbfLGI/znN3NaUvtcJqsaJt /WMAnRXkdrdGN9vKc/MZ24hnhoiEv4Kb =Z8PX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 10:06:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E981106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33A08FC1A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o21A6erb030209 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:06:41 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8B91B0.2070307@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:06:40 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:06:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/2010 01:40:55, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > I'd like the entire portage system to consider 5.8 to be dead, both ^^^^^^^ That's a gentoo-ism > for building from ports, and for installing packages that say they > depend on that. > > How do I get there? Wait. perl-5.10.1 the new default version since 3 weeks ago, but I guess the packages on the FTP sites have not yet been updated. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.perl.mk.diff?r1=1.14;r2=1.15 Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuLkbAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIycxwCfSvr0oqBLiFiCyxYnGyoKYhR+ 7ZMAmgNZFd3ggXTEtzbj2LGUusY0DmQv =lVWv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 15:41:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0E4106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@tgustafson.com) Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F55B8FC15 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id npSq1d00517UAYkA4rU3Jh; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:28:03 +0000 Received: from tjg-01.tgustafson.com ([98.234.59.118]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nrU21d00V2Z3WbE8ZrU3gN; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:28:03 +0000 Received: from tgustafson.com (www@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tjg-01.tgustafson.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o21FRxHn092175 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:28:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjg@tgustafson.com) Received: from 98.234.59.118 (SquirrelMail authenticated user tjg) by tgustafson.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:28:00 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:28:00 -0800 From: "Tim Gustafson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-RC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (tjg-01.tgustafson.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:28:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: FreeBSD-Compatible Multifunction Device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:41:14 -0000 Hi, I've Googled this a bit and found lots of noise about different experiences with devices that -didn't- work or commentary from people about how multifunction devices are a bad idea, but no actual recommendations. I was wondering if anyone could make a recommendation for me about which networked multifunction device is most compatible with FreeBSD? Specifically, I'd like a printer/scanner/fax/copier that: - is network-enable out of the box (wired is preferred but wireless is ok) - has FreeBSD CUPS printer drivers - can be configured to send scans to FreeBSD somehow (either by mounting a samba share, or sending an e-mail, or whatever) - had a scanner hopper that would let me scan multiple pages at once - bonus points for a scanner that scans both sides of the page It would be further awesome if inbound faxes could be routed to e-mail too, but that's not a requirement. Has anyone found such a beast? Tim Gustafson tjg@tgustafson.com http://tgustafson.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 15:53:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49012106566C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEB98FC16 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o21FrZw3091280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:53:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o21FrYkW054845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:53:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o21Fe53g017999; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:40:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:40:05 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Omer Faruk Sen Message-ID: <20100301154004.GU70798@dan.emsphone.com> References: <75a268721003010102n4e1cc375qdbd8f3b2acb96c40@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <75a268721003010102n4e1cc375qdbd8f3b2acb96c40@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:53:35 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Subject: Re: IBM DS4800 Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:53:36 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 01), Omer Faruk Sen said: > Is there anyone here that have used SAN against IBM DS4800 (Fiber). I > can see disk but i can't fdisk it. > > fdisk /dev/da0 > fdisk: could not detect sector size > > and dmesg output when system boots: > > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > registered firmware set > isp0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem 0xc7efc000-0xc7efffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci36 > isp0: [ITHREAD] > isp0: Board Type 2422, Chip Revision 0x3, loaded F/W Revision 4.0.20 > isp1: port 0x7000-0x70ff mem 0xc5ffc000-0xc5ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci7 > isp1: [ITHREAD] > isp1: Board Type 2422, Chip Revision 0x3, loaded F/W Revision 4.0.20 > vgapci0: port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xdfff0000-0xdfffffff irq 22 at device 6.0 on pci1 > isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 > isp1: 0.0.2 FCP RESPONSE: 0x2 > > and afterwards: > > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 1 0 > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC > (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error According to the "DS4000 Problem Determination Guide" at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/systems/support/system_x_pdf/gc27207600.pdf#page=104 , ASC/ASCQ 94/01 corresponds to "Invalid Request Due to Current Logical Unit Ownership". Maybe the DS4800 thinks that the lun has been assigned to a different host, and that's why it won't let the FreeBSD machine access it. Other web searches indicate that this may be an attempt to access the passive path of multipathed device on an active/passive RAID array. If that's the case, FreeBSD should have found another disk (da1 possibly?) that you should be able to use. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 16:18:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9121E1065741 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don_read@att.net) Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E3468FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47960 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2010 16:18:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (don_read@74.235.228.23 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Mar 2010 08:18:16 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: uxDxAm6swBACLTkTsLxYBD8VXKH.UO_plhRNeDA- X-YMail-OSG: 6yrgWLcVM1ksVFL0dfLIzYBtuzavwxVsQsONVAp6RnDHTPeb2uCXcFTkhh7NqLNhJPMwETp57pV5Gs53sMCOSg12WAO8NoIjA50aI7_AcyH9aZSKtshlOqs_21d34WxZUdGAIGJnAyIEdR2BoqyeeJcZjRI2sNKT4CF6yk4MEgDw2Vhwujyy4p5ufkpNUz3vB2R7WE3C3qYdnEc6AXA4zAZ4nlmpg99qLmuZ6WxfC1fzGq1sOj0iZ64MiTUYc1uDbo6U X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:18:15 -0500 From: Don Read To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100301111815.6d69604f@att.net> In-Reply-To: <20100114103909.38edb83f@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <20100114103909.38edb83f@scorpio.seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: USB 3.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:18:19 -0000 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:39:09 -0500 Jerry said: > I just found this regarding USB 3.0: > Will FreeBSD be able to take advantage of this updated technology? > Looking over the FAQ http://www.everythingusb.com/superspeed-usb.html ... it seems to be a change in pinouts ... INAD, but FreeBSD probably already can take advantage of it. -- Don Read don_read@att.net It's always darkest before the dawn. So if you are going to steal the neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 16:41:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCD8106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00C78FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.46.88) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4B7B127300C503F9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:41:26 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o21GfM6S032656 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:41:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4B8BEE32.4060302@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:41:22 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100214 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Bluetooth headset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:41:30 -0000 Hello. I searched with Google, but all the threads I found are quite old, so... Is it possible to use any VoIP software with a bluetooth headset with FreeBSD? What about Skype? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 16:49:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBA4106566C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42778FC1D for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-13.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.13]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFF53D6C0; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o21Gn12a001491; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:49:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:49:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20100301174901.95041084.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B8B881C.1040008@eskk.nu> References: <4B8B881C.1040008@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding slice on existing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:49:04 -0000 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:25:48 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > On a dualboot system I've made some space available that I want to make > a freebsd slice of. > [...] > Any suggestions on how to solve this? I would suggest to use sysinstall oder sade for this task, this is because I'm lazy. :-) In the slice editor, you create a slice covering the space you made free, or, if neccessary, you delete obsolete slices prior to creating a new one. In the label editor, you select the new slice (e. g. ad4s4) and create a partition covering the whole slice. You set the options "UFS2+S Y" (which means to use UFS2 file system plus soft updates, and "yes" to newfs, so the partition will be formatted), and set a mountpoint that you have already created (e. g. /data). Finally you confirm the settings and write them to the disk. This should work fine. Of course, you can do the same using the command line tools, in the same order: 1. create new slice, 2. create new partition inside slice, 3. format the partition, and finally 4. mount it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 17:18:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D86106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CC2F8FC23 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 350 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2010 17:18:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.169.198.42) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2010 17:18:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4B8BF6E3.3040009@telting.org> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:18:27 -0800 From: Chris Telting User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100225) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: spreculative: /bin2 & /usr/bin2 and alternative package/ports trees? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:18:31 -0000 Just wondering if anyone cares to share their thoughts about this. There are a few ports that I would love to see included in the base tree such as OpenLDAP and the Openbsd pdksh or bash. But It hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen. So I was thinking about the pkg infrastructure. The location of the pkg file database I believe can be specified. And the installation directories I believe can also be specified. Other than that paths would have to be changed for binaries and libraries and probably share and other installation points. This should allow separate package trees meaning that when I delete and reinstall my main ports these programs will not be affected and the package database info for these will not be screwed up. Is it possible and if it is has anyone implemented it on their own systems? Or have people simply taken to installing ports in the main directories? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 17:19:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C763106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2354C8FC12 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o21HJjdR015853 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:19:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003011719.o21HJjdR015853@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <15851.1267463985.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:19:45 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:19:58 -0000 One can almost but not quite remotely build a FreeBSD system using mfsbsd. The problem is that in order to install the mfsboot.img data on the main boot drive, it is necessary to use dd to write it there and a working system already has mounted all partitions in the main drive. The systems I will be upgrading have 1 or more gigabytes of RAM available so a memory disk could conceivably hold the roughly 40-meg image that must be written to the boot sector of the main drive. For this to work, one must unmount all main drive partitions and still be able to do something like: dd if=mfsboot.img of=/dev/ad0 After that, the reboot will launch mfsbsd and the rest appears to be manageable. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 17:21:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E371065675 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.huth@tmr.net) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [212.23.146.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612358FC27 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663431DEB74 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:21:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16803-01-36 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:21:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from [109.40.203.31] (ip-109-40-203-31.web.vodafone.de [109.40.203.31]) by bo-uwka-srv01.de.tmr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432311DEEA7 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:21:00 +0100 (CET) From: Alex Huth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:19:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1267463953.9392.65.camel@borusse.borussiapark> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: carp ghosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: a.huth@tmr.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:21:05 -0000 Hi! We have two Frontendserver with carpinterfaces. Now we need more of the carpinterfaces. When i use /etc/netstart to bring them online, there are error messages about misconfigured carpinterfaces. When i look with ifconfig to the list of interfaces, there are four "ghost" carpinterfaces. I haven't set them in the rc.conf and the errors came frome them. This interfaces are the following from the list of "real" carpinterfaces. Where could i have made a mistake or is it a bad idea using netstart with carpinterfaces? thanks in advance Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 17:21:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4268E1065680 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (cl-52.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:33::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170348FC1E for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 695001DE2C2; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:21:48 -0800 (PST) To: Matthew Seaman References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B8B8EF4.9040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.14; tzolkin = 5 Ix; haab = 12 Kayab Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:21:48 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4B8B8EF4.9040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:00 +0000") Message-ID: <86pr3ohs9f.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:21:49 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> For best results, install from ports rather than packages. If it's Matthew> pure-perl code, then this should be hardly more onerous than installing Matthew> a compiled package. XS code however will chew up some CPU cycles. I don't mind installing from ports once I've been notified that the package won't work because it wants perl5.8. What I want is a way to tell the port/package system that perl5.8 doesn't exist so that it *will* fail. How do I do that? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 17:36:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D131065674 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28A38FC1A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so282453pwj.13 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:35:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0HwoIpCCboDDHF868QEgzudE38mM3Zt0lCEnyHuYn6A=; b=xFNT82F1wGiJ7QeK2VJ/IzHh+cvu/XxyIqVH8k5NqpSm9HZV3yWLFyv13vvcx76+sA 67p0DE8tXvwc33XDIAcdWPDvUn0PNNhjIEYGMzph+n5toY5oUWlq11bm/HtBAIhrvj+W iYL9Vnv+5HLrL7YMJSZJVpMjJiZVmqjwZ2xrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GUzM0LyB7J7HfjFMDd9tJ4wPNmL7HVcFfQX0lJFA4Q0Yz9TuDIWVq2x7Zz5BzuSdCA s2sgpdkq7ccrCofa7bx8FzomlDY54VkLHncmWjfl60JyC2zfLHvMD0XrK9oxWJvwT9Bk BbhZTGOIAVKbyv2Gc0zr3wEuKe73Ohy7pe/L0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.179.2 with SMTP id g2mr2718281wfp.239.1267464955980; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:35:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003011719.o21HJjdR015853@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201003011719.o21HJjdR015853@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:35:55 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003010935q176765k6fbecebe3bc25fc0@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:36:07 -0000 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Martin McCormick wrote: > One can almost but not quite remotely build a FreeBSD system > using mfsbsd. The problem is that in order to install the > mfsboot.img data on the main boot drive, it is necessary to use > dd to write it there and a working system already has mounted > all partitions in the main drive. > > The systems I will be upgrading have 1 or more gigabytes > of RAM available so a memory disk could conceivably hold the > roughly 40-meg image that must be written to the boot sector of > the main drive. > > For this to work, one must unmount all main drive > partitions and still be able to do something like: > > dd if=mfsboot.img of=/dev/ad0 > > After that, the reboot will launch mfsbsd and the rest > appears to be manageable. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > This seems to be similar to the depenguinator. http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-01-29-depenguinator-2.0.html Maybe there some approach in there to get you over the hump. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 17:55:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116A0106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29798FC23 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so514440gxk.13 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iA1GqLcgBf0oITpWuvNUwhwo0Fmr77xMpwmvOPe6rNM=; b=Wq6lafEyqU6Expow74A14j1mLJHRMqr8VpUsgEfnKh1CGijUXz8UgW/1b4U8S3dk3D xMV1yA7c9+UUKku0DAN4x4gMSYoTaFNqPc+Mw6u4bhpwmfGs72QSbw+tePlv7aO2FkBL akEr/4e/AW63Av8i8Aw0Gi6nm3NZdRNQD63Mo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KhtjGkSpdP+lps8qi0vW36LuHJe1xDgCgVUBcvjmz+GN1tBBJV8RoIgqquQW2n2wIZ S5r37N81VfRXHrB6mWCYSyM1QQdoqZ3iYlSCCmGQCqhR71IsLwY0+fO+nAMt4k8elzZp i/ILNYt8IPC1r46xyM6JuNRAKBz9ercyUR29g= Received: by 10.100.30.29 with SMTP id d29mr6525302and.247.1267466138372; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.103? (pool-96-254-203-152.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.203.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm2693450gxk.10.2010.03.01.09.55.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:55:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8BFED4.2000204@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:52:20 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8ACB0F.6020300@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8ACB0F.6020300@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:55:46 -0000 David Jackson wrote: > I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been > having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard disks. > Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, when they > use the disk, file operations are very slow, and sometimes the entire > operating system can lock up for several minutes. This can be a pretty > painful thing and makes the system seem very unstable. I am using UFS > filesystems on the disks. It seems to happen on multiple disks that i > use. > > I was hopeful changes to the FreeBSD USB drivers might have improved > things but they are as bad as ever. > > Help is appreciated. > Are there perhaps diagnostic tools or an error log that can be enabled so I can see if maybe there is some sort of error occuring with the USB transmissions that might be causing this problem, or perhaps what part of the driver code it is getting locked up on?. Has anyone else experienced problems such as this with USB disks? If more information on my hardware is needed i will post dmesg output. Any help is appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:00:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421F01065673 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B738FC0A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o21I0fb4097242 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:00:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003011800.o21I0fb4097242@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <97240.1267466441.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:00:41 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:00:52 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > This seems to be similar to the depenguinator. > Maybe there some approach in there to get you over the hump. It is exactly the right idea. Funny thing, I actually did turn swap off and the image is now sitting there because I thought this might be useful. Is there any way to tell the existing system to boot from /dev/ad0s1b next time? That would solve the problem completely. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:05:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5211106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4058FC19 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id CCAFE47183B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:05:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0793865BA for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:05:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0100 Message-Id: <201003011904.AA128385304@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:05:08 -0000 FreeBSD 7.2 as ESXi virtual machine after portsnap fetch update cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server make configure make blah blah mv -f .deps/ha_example.Tpo .deps/ha_example.Po c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT ha_tina.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/ha_tina.Tpo -c -o ha_tina.o ha_tina.cc mv -f .deps/ha_tina.Tpo .deps/ha_tina.Po c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT sql_yacc.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/sql_yacc.Tpo -c -o sql_yacc.o sql_yacc.cc c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server. Thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:07:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB45F106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AA58FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so305071pwj.13 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:07:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zn5i7pOz3sXuhYjt+9ZsHRZvUc8ZUjXf0Q8OdVepoJ4=; b=x9UPbJPv1J8SHjLozP0+4WCNlIIkvv0zkCYEGDM3xRA3uwu7BBislL8ZSz7PhLLwXY jnyd2KyS+7IvOFmBdMpuHjZ9X8ync5oPYnLBwiBUqQuv8qEXc9nm3irYkf5KapP+ibq9 XpOvli2M7KEXk1pUEek3c0Rr5A6VNRYfCai3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=u9SCrySLiknC/kQbedPr//5EB7IWG7x21JShYR9RSABRH1utRJS3oAj6SAVvM8yrLY HVYLKyk7ZRS2TOAEF/VrQQrIeMSTFoynvKT11AhA6CsUaW6Ppi2bP9BSmyrtNtTqate7 ne5BDDo0hJbAdJyG+rclL55Dx2tKIeG873kZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.210.20 with SMTP id i20mr2735960wfg.329.1267466849859; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:07:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003011800.o21I0fb4097242@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <201003011800.o21I0fb4097242@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:07:29 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003011007u30b3806cv36111859fcd34541@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:07:34 -0000 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: > Adam Vande More writes: > > This seems to be similar to the depenguinator. > > > Maybe there some approach in there to get you over the hump. > > It is exactly the right idea. Funny thing, I actually did turn > swap off and the image is now sitting there because I thought > this might be useful. Is there any way to tell the existing > system to boot from /dev/ad0s1b next time? That would solve the > problem completely. > > Never tried it but this might work: bsdlabel -B diskslice -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:19:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7429B106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F218A8FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o21IJaTx035544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:19:37 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8C0538.3090309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:19:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B8B8EF4.9040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <86pr3ohs9f.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86pr3ohs9f.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:19:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/2010 17:21:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: > > Matthew> For best results, install from ports rather than packages. If it's > Matthew> pure-perl code, then this should be hardly more onerous than installing > Matthew> a compiled package. XS code however will chew up some CPU cycles. > > I don't mind installing from ports once I've been notified that the package > won't work because it wants perl5.8. > > What I want is a way to tell the port/package system that perl5.8 > doesn't exist so that it *will* fail. > > How do I do that? As far as I know, there isn't an official way to do this. What you want sounds like a useful addition to the base system to me. You could do it in a fairly gross hacky way, like the following. This is entirly untested, might not work at all and will certainly be at the cost of some alarming error messages: # mkdir -p /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.9_3 # touch /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.9_3/+IGNOREME # chflags -R noschg /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.9_3 Hopefully it chucks a spanner in the works before the package system actually installs anything. Of course, you'll have to update that if the perl5.8 port has any sort of version bump[*]. On second thoughts, writing a small wrapper around pkg_add(1) that greps through the @pkgdep lines in the +CONTENTS file from the package tarball and bails if it finds the wrong version of perl would be a much cleaner approach. The -M (--master) and -S (--slave) flags to pkg_add look interesting in this context. Cheers, Matthew [*] You can register at freshports.org to get notifications of any updates to ports that particularly interest you. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuMBTgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwYtgCgh8SCPP+Xn+CrY2cCfgitwva+ xKAAmwXuyCDCQzCUVAmvNgqg3po57n5l =3S3V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:25:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0315C106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3E78FC14 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so316969pwj.13 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:25:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EVwpUySs6IkaY0t3VVFQyEQG3g6EkGnlNLguoiqlphY=; b=GFhyqDJjmPDJUaQBXovaN6uMbRWcAJvSnFCSMTah6BMRqCIKT4TQsY7urFI53EBeIB NLjvxr1FdSbFjiO6AuFxoTMMnLGQWSSz1SFZvWXdMXT0oSMnMFicelRraksUdkel25mb jMYZ07ZIxMxqVGgIs7d97YTClbidbXc6/sHU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ikty201c9QgOW3bnW+GteXaZtn/7BAYCPz8KZo2EpDPgtOGPO4QvlzPyTiSQKQvXRL PCZGj7RwSAneUyuVyb45M15dE8PNz681paNCcmfsuD9QsnYbBn9H97Rxne2cpG2Ft4wc fFLIUzuHiVxum6uwBW8QUbxIal/24adHonrD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.2.9 with SMTP id 9mr2702845wfb.290.1267467908789; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:25:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003011007u30b3806cv36111859fcd34541@mail.gmail.com> References: <201003011800.o21I0fb4097242@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <6201873e1003011007u30b3806cv36111859fcd34541@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:25:08 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003011025r3141b505pacaf1ec612bb67b@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Martin McCormick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:25:13 -0000 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Martin McCormick < > martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> wrote: > >> Adam Vande More writes: >> > This seems to be similar to the depenguinator. >> >> > Maybe there some approach in there to get you over the hump. >> >> It is exactly the right idea. Funny thing, I actually did turn >> swap off and the image is now sitting there because I thought >> this might be useful. Is there any way to tell the existing >> system to boot from /dev/ad0s1b next time? That would solve the >> problem completely. >> >> > Never tried it but this might work: > > bsdlabel -B diskslice > Since you need to specify a partition other than a, I think you may need to use boot.config http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=boot&sektion=8&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASE -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:29:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932FF106564A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6238C8FC17 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so320102pwj.13 for ; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:29:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Kn+8K9brzBIfWkMKt2kKis6fuqTrZ5DRipWYeGi2pb4=; b=k4n0eHExKb/40JDd6tL7H8jROjq/WFv4mInx6njTQD4HB7zAhawUCw8nmA9DLKeNRd /3W+GtHoFB03FrZQe31yFwXIKSP1RNQ2NtZDY71csXiRJ3Iw+9csNfgLwsY1ZmF+24gE 9kdhNljxNqQY5Ih9bYwWrxCWWmBsR9k3yvyBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ffz1iVGMwqhUTyowPZtBd3INZBztNZiVWTJrxPr6HJoHnwFptk9ZyKMgcj7GVpe435 3daw6PLwtQU2pObw+y2BiLbMktqsjeaLxwm1BUZqh9wx/efzb7ZLMn3LXrAI2WuPdHNM 0hz7oxZPrBi2h4B/h363JSkYMFhnV3+bRym8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.151.22 with SMTP id y22mr2762092wfd.126.1267468174372; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:29:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8C0538.3090309@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B8B8EF4.9040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <86pr3ohs9f.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B8C0538.3090309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:29:34 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e1003011029p18442ac5p4f1ef9360436ff3f@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:29:43 -0000 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > > As far as I know, there isn't an official way to do this. What you > want sounds like a useful addition to the base system to me. > > You could do it in a fairly gross hacky way, like the following. This is > entirly untested, might not work at all and will certainly be at the > cost of some alarming error messages: > > # mkdir -p /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.9_3 > # touch /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.9_3/+IGNOREME > # chflags -R noschg /var/db/pkg/perl-5.8.9_3 > > Hopefully it chucks a spanner in the works before the package system > actually installs anything. Of course, you'll have to update that if > the perl5.8 port has any sort of version bump[*]. > > On second thoughts, writing a small wrapper around pkg_add(1) that greps > through the @pkgdep lines in the +CONTENTS file from the package tarball > and bails if it finds the wrong version of perl would be a much cleaner > approach. The -M (--master) and -S (--slave) flags to pkg_add look > interesting in this context. > > There is already enough dependency information available to portupgrade to know this. portupgrade simply doesn't act on it. However, as I already informed Mr. Schwartz, portmaster -P does work. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:47:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8AB106564A; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8948FC1F; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2DF546B8C; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9141A8A024; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:44:52 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003011344.52123.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:47:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Dan Naumov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 on new hardware and a few errors, should I be worried? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:47:18 -0000 On Saturday 27 February 2010 8:28:48 pm Dan Naumov wrote: > Hello > > I've very recently finished installing 8.0-RELEASE on some new > hardware and I noticed a few error messages that make me a bit uneasy. > This is a snip from my dmesg: > > -------------------------------------------------- > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, bf600000 (3) failed > -------------------------------------------------- > > What do these mean and should I worry about it? The full DMESG can be > viewed here: http://jago.pp.fi/temp/dmesg.txt You can ignore them. FreeBSD creates two psuedo-devices on x86 called apic0 and ram0. Their sole job is to reserve the memory ranges used by APIC devices and system RAM to prevent those address ranges being reused by anything else (such as PCI BARs). Many systems also reserve those ranges as a system resource via ACPI (or PnPBIOS for the non-ACPI case). What is happening is that the ACPI system resource driver isn't able to reserve these ranges because they are already claimed by apic0 and ram0. The important point is that some device claims them. It doesn't really matter which one does. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:50:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E7C106567D for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2F38FC1D for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A302510E50A; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:52:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMTT5oKyhTvh; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:52:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD010E79E; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:52:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8C0C6E.3020009@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:50:22 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100226 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4B8B881C.1040008@eskk.nu> <20100301174901.95041084.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100301174901.95041084.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding slice on existing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:50:30 -0000 On 2010-03-01 17:49, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:25:48 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> On a dualboot system I've made some space available that I want to make >> a freebsd slice of. >> [...] >> Any suggestions on how to solve this? > > I would suggest to use sysinstall oder sade for this task, > this is because I'm lazy. :-) > > In the slice editor, you create a slice covering the space > you made free, or, if neccessary, you delete obsolete slices > prior to creating a new one. > > In the label editor, you select the new slice (e. g. ad4s4) > and create a partition covering the whole slice. You set > the options "UFS2+S Y" (which means to use UFS2 file system > plus soft updates, and "yes" to newfs, so the partition will > be formatted), and set a mountpoint that you have already > created (e. g. /data). > > Finally you confirm the settings and write them to the disk. At this screen: -------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD Disklabel Editor Disk: ad4 Partition name: ad4s4 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Disk: ad4 Partition name: ad4s3 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ad4s4d /data 30866MB UFS2+S Y ad4s3a 1024MB * ad4s3b swap 4096MB SWAP ad4s3d 2048MB * ad4s3e 4096MB * ad4s3f 20480MB * ad4s3g 28125MB * The following commands are valid here (upper or lower case): C = Create D = Delete M = Mount pt. W = Write N = Newfs Opts Q = Finish S = Toggle SoftUpdates Z = Custom Newfs T = Toggle Newfs U = Undo A = Auto Defaults R = Delete+Merge Use F1 or ? to get more help, arrow keys to select. -------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately at this point when I choose W to write the changes I get the following error: Unable to add /dev/ad4s3b as a swap device: the device is busy This is the existing swap partition so I do not quite understand why I get this error Then I choose OK and then I get: Error mounting /dev/ad4s4d on /data : No such file or directory > This should work fine. > > Of course, you can do the same using the command line tools, > in the same order: > 1. create new slice, > 2. create new partition inside slice, > 3. format the partition, and finally > 4. mount it. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 19:18:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA715106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F8A8FC08 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 48EC647183B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:18:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C613865B8 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:18:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:18:45 +0100 Message-Id: <201003012018.AA147652888@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: sorry, email program ate my subject: Can't compile MySQL 5.0 server on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:18:54 -0000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Len Conrad" Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0100 >FreeBSD 7.2 as ESXi virtual machine > >after portsnap fetch update > >cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server > >make configure > >make > >blah blah > >mv -f .deps/ha_example.Tpo .deps/ha_example.Po >c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT ha_tina.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/ha_tina.Tpo -c -o ha_tina.o ha_tina.cc >mv -f .deps/ha_tina.Tpo .deps/ha_tina.Po >c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT sql_yacc.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/sql_yacc.Tpo -c -o sql_yacc.o sql_yacc.cc >c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) >Please submit a full bug report. >See for instructions. >*** Error code 1 >1 error >*** Error code 1 >1 error >*** Error code 1 >1 error >*** Error code 2 >1 error >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server. > > >Thanks >Len > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 18:07:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93AC106564A for ; 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WARNING: local host name (FreeBSD) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? dest@domain.pk... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 FreeBSD ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.3/8.14.3; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:37:13 +0500 (PKT) >>> EHLO FreeBSD 250-FreeBSD Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP >>> MAIL From: SIZE=46 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: >>> DATA 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 2.0.0 o21DbDbk008201 Message accepted for delivery dest@domain.pk... Sent (o21DbDbk008201 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >>> QUIT 221 2.0.0 FreeBSD closing connection Regards Uzair Qadir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 19:46:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86FB1065672 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CFF8FC1B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NmBZo-000Dvr-H3; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:46:53 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3D43C3A996; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:46:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B8C19AE.9050108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:46:54 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lconrad@Go2France.com References: <201003012018.AA147652888@mail.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <201003012018.AA147652888@mail.Go2France.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sorry, email program ate my subject: Can't compile MySQL 5.0 server on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:46:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Len Conrad wrote: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Len Conrad" > Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0100 > >> FreeBSD 7.2 as ESXi virtual machine >> >> after portsnap fetch update >> >> cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server >> >> make configure >> >> make >> >> blah blah >> >> mv -f .deps/ha_example.Tpo .deps/ha_example.Po >> c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT ha_tina.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/ha_tina.Tpo -c -o ha_tina.o ha_tina.cc >> mv -f .deps/ha_tina.Tpo .deps/ha_tina.Po >> c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT sql_yacc.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/sql_yacc.Tpo -c -o sql_yacc.o sql_yacc.cc >> c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) >> Please submit a full bug report. >> See for instructions. >> *** Error code 1 >> 1 error >> *** Error code 1 >> 1 error >> *** Error code 1 >> 1 error >> *** Error code 2 >> 1 error >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server. >> >> >> Thanks >> Len >> Hi Len, How much memory have you allocated to the VM? This error indicates that the compiler didn't have enough memory to compile that source file. Also, check the output of this command: sysctl -a | grep ^kern.maxd I have a VM with 1.5 GB allocated to it, and I've added the following line to /boot/loader.conf.local: kern.maxdsize=1363148800 That gave me enough breathing room to use gcc (gcj, actually) to compile some complex Java source files. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLjBmu0sRouByUApARAi0vAJ96IfepBA5qhY0Tpbj7Mqu+ZMCFFACeOhKR Ov0ynzi/gBt4HkF8qNoebUo= =5q+5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 20:03:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304891065670 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from capistrano.beach.net (ns.beach.net [12.130.64.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171988FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.225] (host135 [209.200.204.135]) by capistrano.beach.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o21Jm0xw017555; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) In-Reply-To: <657548.61990.qm@web52307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <657548.61990.qm@web52307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Busarow Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:47:55 -0700 To: Uzair Qadir X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:03:51 -0000 On Mar 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Uzair Qadir wrote: > Hi, > i am new to the freebsd. and i have been trying to configure > sendmail so that it would only send mails through a mail server . > but i cant seem to get it right. wen i run sendmail. i get the > following output. i would like to knw what could be the problem. Set SMART_HOST in /etc/mail/hostname.mc and then run make If you have not run make in /etc/mail yet, do that first. That will create hostname.mc In your case that may end up being domain.pk.mc Add a line like this define(`SMART_HOST', `[172.16.1.1]') using the correct IP address for the mail server. If the mail server has an FQDN use that without the square brackets define(`SMART_HOST', `mail.server.com') Run make That should do it. Dan > > > WARNING: local host name (FreeBSD) is not qualified; see cf/README: > WHO AM I? > dest@domain.pk... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... > 220 FreeBSD ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.3/8.14.3; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:37:13 > +0500 (PKT) >>>> EHLO FreeBSD > 250-FreeBSD Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-PIPELINING > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE > 250-DSN > 250-ETRN > 250-DELIVERBY > 250 HELP >>>> MAIL From: SIZE=46 > 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>>> RCPT To: >>>> DATA > 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok > 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>>> . > 250 2.0.0 o21DbDbk008201 Message accepted for delivery > dest@domain.pk... Sent (o21DbDbk008201 Message accepted for delivery) > Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >>>> QUIT > 221 2.0.0 FreeBSD closing connection > > > > Regards > Uzair Qadir > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 20:52:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B9A106566B for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F048FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 7983C47185F for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:52:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52693865B9 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:52:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:52:42 +0100 Message-Id: <201003012152.AA294715616@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: Re: sorry, email program ate my subject: Can't compile MySQL 5.0server on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:52:56 -0000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Greg Larkin Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:46:54 -0500 >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Len Conrad wrote: >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: "Len Conrad" >> Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com >> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0100 >> >>> FreeBSD 7.2 as ESXi virtual machine >>> >>> after portsnap fetch update >>> >>> cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server >>> >>> make configure >>> >>> make >>> >>> blah blah >>> >>> mv -f .deps/ha_example.Tpo .deps/ha_example.Po >>> c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT ha_tina.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/ha_tina.Tpo -c -o ha_tina.o ha_tina.cc >>> mv -f .deps/ha_tina.Tpo .deps/ha_tina.Po >>> c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/usr/local\"" -DMYSQL_DATADIR="\"/var/db/mysql\"" -DSHAREDIR="\"/usr/local/share/mysql\"" -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include -I../include -I../include -I../sql -I../sql -I../sql/examples -I../regex -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=1000000 -MT sql_yacc.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/sql_yacc.Tpo -c -o sql_yacc.o sql_yacc.cc >>> c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) >>> Please submit a full bug report. >>> See for instructions. >>> *** Error code 1 >>> 1 error >>> *** Error code 1 >>> 1 error >>> *** Error code 1 >>> 1 error >>> *** Error code 2 >>> 1 error >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Len >>> > >Hi Len, > >How much memory have you allocated to the VM? This error indicates that >the compiler didn't have enough memory to compile that source file. >Also, check the output of this command: > >sysctl -a | grep ^kern.maxd > >I have a VM with 1.5 GB allocated to it, and I've added the following >line to /boot/loader.conf.local: > >kern.maxdsize=1363148800 > >That gave me enough breathing room to use gcc (gcj, actually) to compile >some complex Java source files. > >Hope that helps, >Greg thanks Greg, I though that might be a problem. from top: Mem: 77M Active, 94M Inact, 57M Wired, 2956K Cache, 34M Buf, 7492K Free I gave up on compile and did pkg_add -r. thanks Len >- -- >Greg Larkin > >http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve >http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. >http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >iD8DBQFLjBmu0sRouByUApARAi0vAJ96IfepBA5qhY0Tpbj7Mqu+ZMCFFACeOhKR >Ov0ynzi/gBt4HkF8qNoebUo= >=5q+5 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 21:11:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72E91065679 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E198FC0C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o21LBpOS045402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:11:52 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8C2D97.70808@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:11:51 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86zl2tkrrv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281349n2bcfd16dte6fdce53cd14c1db@mail.gmail.com> <86iq9hkoxf.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281738o35444a7ahcc184951f712f0a7@mail.gmail.com> <86ocj8kee0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <6201873e1002281742i687c2d41y44e3e0f97f35166f@mail.gmail.com> <86k4twke6h.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B8B8EF4.9040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <86pr3ohs9f.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B8C0538.3090309@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B8C0538.3090309@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: how do I tell ports that perl5.8 should never be installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:11:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/2010 18:19:36, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On second thoughts, writing a small wrapper around pkg_add(1) that greps > through the @pkgdep lines in the +CONTENTS file from the package tarball > and bails if it finds the wrong version of perl would be a much cleaner > approach. The -M (--master) and -S (--slave) flags to pkg_add look > interesting in this context. Arrgh. This is so nearly workable. Unfortunately, -M or -S don't play nicely with options like -r or -v -- seems you're meant to have local copies of all of the dependencies already downloaded and in a directory on $PKG_PATH in that case. Given that, then this script will reject any attempt to install a pkg that depends on perl-5.8: #!/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin ; export PATH IFS=' ' ; export IFS umask 022 reject='^@pkgdep perl-5.8' TMPFILE=$(mktemp -t mypkgadd) || exit 1 trap "rm $TMPFILE" KILL HUP EXIT if pkg_add -M ${1+$@} | sed -n -e '/^\/var\/tmp\/instmp/,$p' | \ tee $TMPFILE | grep "$reject" 2>&1 >/dev/null ; then echo "Error: found forbidden package dependency $reject" exit 1 fi pkg_add -S < $TMPFILE && rm -rf $( head -1 $TMPFILE ) # # That's All Folks! # Now, the only missing bit is 'pkg_add -r -S' not fetching dependency pkgs from the remote site. Also options like -r and -v seem to cause bogons to be emitted to stdout which screws up the -M action, but that has been worked around. 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It's bad to use custom flags to compile kernel , > why do you=20 > think so ? > I'd like to know more about this : ) >=20 > So setting optimize compiler flags is only useful for > userland stuff ? >=20 I laughed at your question because I remember reading somewhere that using = aggressive optimization options is a good way to find compiler bugs. I thin= k that extends of optimizations for "new" CPU architectures as well.=20 I also heard kernel code avoids MMX instructions for some reason: it may ha= ve to do with interrupt handling (fewer registers=3Dfaster?). x86 (and AMD6= 4) processors are backwards compatible, so you don't strictly need the late= st instructions. Regards, James Phillips =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AThe new Internet Explorer=AE 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized= for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internet= explorer/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 22:52:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B064E1065676 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ECD8FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100301225230.REUO18765.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:52:30 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.0.79.23]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id nysX1d0040WARwL02ysXQb; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:52:31 -0500 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=r0ip4CAF+RuTzKNasVOAmf0SIcQ3oFzEcrAVGNtDFmQ= c=1 sm=1 a=xxHbGvPHv4NDIGoarCYyzQ==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=PtEBTUFu_s52jy5dNOAA:9 a=QWVHq42X04RxYQwx2qYA:7 a=jfcuGX2fa9SQkd5SwYzrx-T2amEA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=xxHbGvPHv4NDIGoarCYyzQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <4B8C4533.9060105@cox.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:52:35 -0600 From: Derek Funk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8ABB16.6020509@cox.net> <20100228205246.GC5085@mail2.dcoder.net> <20100228211040.GD5085@mail2.dcoder.net> In-Reply-To: <20100228211040.GD5085@mail2.dcoder.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100301-1, 03/01/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: wireless setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:52:32 -0000 On 2/28/2010 3:10 PM, dacoder wrote: > > on a 2nd reading, i see from your ifconfig output that wlan0 is up. so > instead of "ifconfig wlan0 up" i think you need "ifconfig wlan0 create > wlandev ath0" (assuming your wireless nic is ath0), then "dhclient > wlan0". > that does it for me, anyway. i find it easiest to leave *all* my > wireless > commands out of rc.conf & run the 1st command given above once the system > is up. > > hope this helps. > > +++ dacoder [28/02/10 15:52 -0500]: >> in 8.0 you need to use wlan0 as your wireless interface. are you >> doing that? >> so you need "ifconfig wlan0 up" & either "ifconfig wlan0 w.x.y.z" or >> "dhclient wlan0". >> >> +++ Derek Funk [28/02/10 12:51 -0600]: >>> I am trying to setup a wireless nic on a machine I just installed >>> pcbsd 8.0 on. >>> Its not going well. >>> >>> output from ifconfig -a is: >>> re0: >>> flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >>> >>> options=389b >>> >>> ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 >>> inet6 fe80::21e:33ff:fe99:a1a3%re0 prefixlen >>> 64 scopeid 0x1 >>> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX >>> ) >>> status: active >>> ath0: >>> flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 >>> ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 >>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet >>> autoselect mode 11g >>> status: associated >>> pflog0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 33200 >>> pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460 >>> syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 >>> lo0: flags=8049 >>> metric 0 mtu 16384 >>> options=3 >>> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >>> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 >>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 >>> lagg0: >>> flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >>> ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 >>> inet6 fe80::21e:33ff:fe99:a1a3%lagg0 >>> prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 >>> inet 10.254.239.136 netmask 0xffffff00 >>> broadcast 10.254.239.255 >>> media: Ethernet autoselect >>> status: active >>> laggproto failover >>> laggport: wlan0 flags=0<> >>> laggport: re0 flags=5 >>> wlan0: >>> flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >>> ether 00:1e:33:99:a1:a3 >>> inet6 fe80::21e:33ff:fe99:a1a3%wlan0 >>> prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 >>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet >>> autoselect (autoselect) >>> status: no carrier >>> ssid "" channel 12 (2467 Mhz 11g) >>> regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode >>> WPA1+WPA2/802.11i privacy ON >>> deftxkey UNDEF txpower 20 bmiss 7 scanvalid >>> 450 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 >>> bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 >>> protmode CTS wme burst >>> roaming MANUAL bintval 0 >>> lo1: flags=8049 >>> metric 0 mtu 16384 >>> options=3 >>> inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 >>> >>> and my rc.conf is:(with some unrelated info omitted) >>> background_dhclient="YES" >>> >>> # Enable the pcbsd startup / shutdown scripts >>> pcbsdinit_enable="YES" >>> >>> >>> # Denyhosts Startup >>> denyhosts_enable="YES" >>> >>> # Enable the firewall >>> pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" >>> pf_enable="YES" >>> pf_flags="" >>> >>> # Enable ipfw and open it by default since we have PF >>> firewall_enable="YES" >>> firewall_type="open" >>> >>> # Enable IPV6 support >>> ipv6_enable="YES" >>> >>> # Auto-Enabled NICs from pc-sysinstall >>> ifconfig_re0="up" >>> ifconfig_ath0="`ifconfig re0 ether`" >>> ifconfig_ath0="ether ${ifconfig_ath0##*ether }" >>> wlans_ath0="wlan0" >>> cloned_interfaces="lagg0" >>> ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport re0 >>> laggport wlan0 DHCP" >>> hostname="pcbsd-6415" >>> ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" >>> >>> I have looked in the handbook and searched the net and tried what I >>> found and still no go. >>> I am trying to connect to open access points around me that a >>> windows machine has no problem using. >>> Any help is appreciated. >>> >>> Derek >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> >> regards, >> >> david coder >> network engineer emeritus, verio/ntt >> telluride, co & washington, dc > Nope didnt help, thx tho From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 23:48:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC11106566B for ; 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(gpftor3.privacyfoundation.de [62.141.58.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1295543yxe.37.2010.03.01.15.48.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:48:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8C501C.4050606@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:39:08 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8ACB0F.6020300@gmail.com> <4B8BFED4.2000204@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8BFED4.2000204@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:48:56 -0000 David Jackson wrote: > David Jackson wrote: >> I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been >> having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard >> disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, >> when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and sometimes >> the entire operating system can lock up for several minutes. This can >> be a pretty painful thing and makes the system seem very unstable. I >> am using UFS filesystems on the disks. It seems to happen on multiple >> disks that i use. >> >> I was hopeful changes to the FreeBSD USB drivers might have improved >> things but they are as bad as ever. >> >> Help is appreciated. >> > Are there perhaps diagnostic tools or an error log that can be enabled > so I can see if maybe there is some sort of error occuring with the > USB transmissions that might be causing this problem, or perhaps what > part of the driver code it is getting locked up on?. > > Has anyone else experienced problems such as this with USB disks? If > more information on my hardware is needed i will post dmesg output. > > Any help is appreciated. I have done some more thinking about this issue. Just an app freeze on USB access is one thing, however, the fact that the entire OS freezes up on access to the USB disk shows there are much more serious design problems in the FreeBSD kernel. A USB access should not cause the kernel to lock up for minutes. these are very serious flaws in the FreeBSD kernel and lead to an instable and unuseable system. With these problems, and the fact no one really seems to care that the FreeBSD kernel is unstable, freezes up, etc , really is shocking considering FreeBSD bills itself as a server OS. Freezes and lockups are not a sign of stability or good design, they are evidence of severe design flaws, especailly that the entire kernel would freeze. I would be glad to use diagnostic tools to help find the problem. Much of the FreeBSD kernel however seems to be a black box, I have tried to study it but it seems to be badly documented. I have not been able to penetrate it and i do not know enough, despite my efforts, about it to understand what is causing these problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 00:42:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBF01065670 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75FA8FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP44 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:42:22 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP44.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:42:21 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7461B2283A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:42:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:42:19 -0500 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Questions Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2010 00:42:21.0181 (UTC) FILETIME=[37E072D0:01CAB9A1] Subject: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:42:23 -0000 I was attempting to upgrade a Gateway GT5220 PC. The machine was running FreeBSD-7.2 successfully. The sound system was functioning correctly and gMplayer and Mplayer worked fine. The machine was using a nVidia GeForce 6150 LE on-board card. I installed a nVidia GeForce GT 220 card. The old on-board card did not support DVI. Now, the video is fine; however, there is no audio. Mplayer and gMplayer both freeze when attempting to play or view anything. I have no idea how to debug this. Since I did not touch the audio, I cannot figure it out. I did have a script that ran upon boot-up: /sbin/sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 /sbin/sysctl dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 /sbin/sysctl dev.pcm.0.rec.vchans=4 /sbin/sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=16 mixer vol 100:100 pcm 100:100 speaker 100:100 line 100:100 mic 0:0 cd 100:100 =rec mic Previously, it ran without incident. Now, it produces this output: sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.snd.pcm0.vchans' dev.pcm.0.play.vchans: 4 -> 4 sysctl: dev.pcm.0.rec.vchans: Operation not supported by device hw.snd.maxautovchans: 16 -> 16 mixer: unknown device: vol usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ... mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ... mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ... This is from 'dmesg' dmesg -a|grep -i -A8 -B2 220 pci3: on pcib3 vgapci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem 0xfb000000-0xfbffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xee000000-0xefffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] nvidia0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: mem 0xfcffc000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136 hdac0: [ITHREAD] I would really appreciate any assistance I could get. I really would like the audio to work on this machine again. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | So... did you ever wonder, do garbage men take showers before they go to work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 01:58:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB69106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from indiana99@inbox.lv) Received: from shark3.inbox.lv (shark3.inbox.lv [89.111.3.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D258D8FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:58:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by shark3.inbox.lv (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 52A1F8A6; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:43:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (w4 [10.0.1.14]) by shark3-plain-b64d2.inbox.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD81849 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:43:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from 80.81.39.60 ( [80.81.39.60]) by mail.inbox.lv with HTTP; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:43:11 +0200 X-LOCAL: 1 X-Compose: web=mail.inbox.lv, node=w4, l=en, prefs=HTML, sess=0, fck=Compatible, compose=Plaintext X-REMOTE-ADDR: 80.81.39.60 X-HTTP-USER-AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.1) Message-ID: <1267494191.4b8c6d2f18a84@mail.inbox.lv> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:43:11 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Indiana Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Inbox.lv Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RAID10 doen't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:58:15 -0000 Hi, I'd really appreciate it if somebody could help me out! I have a box with a MB ASUS P5WDG2-WS Pro with two built-in SATA II RAID co= ntrollers=20 (Intel ICH7R and Marvell 88SE614x). I installed 4 HDD WD WD5002ABYS (500GB each) on the 4 SATA ports of the Int= el=20 ICH7R and using the Intel Matrix Storage Manager I created a RAID10 (Strip = 14KB, Size=20 931.5GB, Status Normal, Bootable Yes) out of these 4 HDD. Then in the BIOS I set the IDE Configuration to Configure SATA As [RAID], O= nBoard=20 Serial-ATA BOOTROM [Enabled] and disable the Marvell SATA controller, for I= use only=20 the Intel ICH7R. =C2=A0Then I successfully installed FreeBSD 7.1 on the RAID partition, ar0. =C2=A0 The installation completed successfully but the system persistently didn't = boot and gave this=20 error message: =C2=A0 F1=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0FreeBSD Default: F1 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot = Default:=C2=A00:ad (0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: No /boot/kernel/kernel Thanks a lot, Alex =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 02:24:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B644106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728358FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20631 invoked by uid 89); 2 Mar 2010 02:04:21 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 20624, pid: 20627, t: 0.2031s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.91.2/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.10.3?) (202.69.174.43) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2010 02:04:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4B8C76CE.6070002@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:24:14 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Jackson References: <4B8ACB0F.6020300@gmail.com> <4B8BFED4.2000204@gmail.com> <4B8C501C.4050606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8C501C.4050606@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:24:27 -0000 David Jackson wrote: > David Jackson wrote: >> David Jackson wrote: >>> I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been >>> having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard >>> disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, >>> when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and sometimes >>> the entire operating system can lock up for several minutes. This can >>> be a pretty painful thing and makes the system seem very unstable. I >>> am using UFS filesystems on the disks. It seems to happen on multiple >>> disks that i use. >>> >>> I was hopeful changes to the FreeBSD USB drivers might have improved >>> things but they are as bad as ever. >>> >>> Help is appreciated. >>> >> Are there perhaps diagnostic tools or an error log that can be enabled >> so I can see if maybe there is some sort of error occuring with the >> USB transmissions that might be causing this problem, or perhaps what >> part of the driver code it is getting locked up on?. >> >> Has anyone else experienced problems such as this with USB disks? If >> more information on my hardware is needed i will post dmesg output. >> >> Any help is appreciated. > I have done some more thinking about this issue. Just an app freeze on > USB access is one thing, however, the fact that the entire OS freezes up > on access to the USB disk shows there are much more serious design > problems in the FreeBSD kernel. A USB access should not cause the kernel > to lock up for minutes. these are very serious flaws in the FreeBSD > kernel and lead to an instable and unuseable system. With these > problems, and the fact no one really seems to care that the FreeBSD > kernel is unstable, freezes up, etc , really is shocking considering > FreeBSD bills itself as a server OS. Freezes and lockups are not a sign > of stability or good design, they are evidence of severe design flaws, > especailly that the entire kernel would freeze. I would be glad to use > diagnostic tools to help find the problem. Much of the FreeBSD kernel > however seems to be a black box, I have tried to study it but it seems > to be badly documented. I have not been able to penetrate it and i do > not know enough, despite my efforts, about it to understand what is > causing these problems. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Your description about what is happening is lacking any detail. Tell us what is on the USB disk, How you are using it, How you created it ECT ECT ECT Booting your system from it is way different than writing small data files to it or containing a raid file system or some database. You have to help us help you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 03:25:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A359C106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9272E8FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.43]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:25:49 -0800 Message-ID: <4B8C8536.2050309@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:25:42 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2010 03:25:49.0919 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E5716F0:01CAB9B8] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Handbook Index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:25:49 -0000 I find it very hard to find the subject I am looking for in the handbook. The index only gets me to the general area in the handbook and then I have to (next page) through it looking for what I hope is there. The Index really needs to be expanded to display each and every sub-section of all the major sections now in the index. For example Installing from a "ms/dos partition" or "splash screen usage". These are both subjects in the handbook but are not in the index. What good is am index that does not index its content? The purpose of the index is to list all subjects documented in the handbook so the reader can skim through the index and click on the exact subject they want to read. Can not do that with the current handbook index. So what do other people think? Should I submit a Doc bug on this?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 05:22:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92E6106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A5588FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15845 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2010 05:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2010 05:22:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=dzFnXwEnQSm2FvqHWCPG+1LWOtSaAETZiEb1XD0X1PcSxML7QG2qrgUkfTHKHlnbC7wGMPcoPqZAo2doI9Ah4CnRaf9PWqNx5IIKqln6/e3bRcYag6Usna3I9OxtLdBQ; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmIxd-0004qM-9s; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:39:53 -0700 Message-ID: <4B8C8876.9040601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:39:34 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9D52A961AE2C8E8CE6BD6011" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Mouse Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:22:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9D52A961AE2C8E8CE6BD6011 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resend: Sorry if this has appeared twice before. First time sent at 11:13 CST, sent a second time at 12:43 CST. Sending this one at approximately 21:37 CST, CCing owner because this (posting new mails to the list) is an on going problem I'm having. I would like to know what the problem is so I can have some hand in trying to solve it. Now on to the problem at hand. I'm not exactly sure what is going on here. Just about 10 minutes (more like several hours) ago my mouse locked up and stopped responding, eventually forcing me to reboot because I couldn't get it to start responding again. I even had to unplug it from the USB port (it is a USB mouse) and plug it back in because it lost power for some reason. I tried restarting hald and dbus, figuring that was the problem, I also tried using sysinstall to configure the mouse to no luck. I have use of my mouse again, but my scroll wheel is no longer being recognized. I've once again tried using sysinstall and restarting hald and dbus to no avai= l. It's a fairly old (about 6-8 years) Logitech optical mouse (if I'm not mistaken, this is one with force feedback, but I'm not concerned about that feature). I was actually on the phone talking with someone while trying to check up on some messages I had received via FaceBook when the mouse went out. At first I had thought that my computer had locked because nothing seemed to be responding, but a quick check showed me I could still alt+1-5 through my workspaces (keyboard is also USB and apparently suffered no such interruption). Both mouse and kb are on a PCI USB 2.0 expansion port because the builtins at the back of the box are on their way out (mobo is about as old as the mouse). Any ideas? --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig9D52A961AE2C8E8CE6BD6011 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLjIiCAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0ipMIAIGwLzwwBe8OEju/6Y+0emGr aypUQlRtrJIvj3qc/9fdicTviiOR0X1eAgt1BYLpwlr95UzlU1xCIgIGWwXR5K+B yGk2Txkq2lsjVpaItqLvT9g8y/qxDlbFMA/OM4GDUDaHhGKnbaLn6x+r6YgbtqNi 42KAlLSNzYl5X4Y8j2sOy2PMhaRaKOyPhFWaNXf3OBYMn072klSsIaw4FGZLgMAj Vk/HNNgCKThVtIUHuyz3C6YtkZZwLxvl+T2hBFic+fNyoEmbc9ntEFoZjoXh+ra4 ckt2wDYGOkPz9GjM4Vd/yQ77v0+lkypYH4v6oqeO16MbZeUjTqtqnNxTbK8kgBw= =pXVh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9D52A961AE2C8E8CE6BD6011-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 05:25:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0036D106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5F278FC15 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1164 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2010 05:25:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2010 05:25:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=umAti4aHUgM29Lb5Lt4Bv+KJbNZW2xYrwuuzrnXEVN4optnBRsOhdY2MpyHgOHMhzkSz4cabzfoCOTKaLzsvWeTvcyQDzp2/PWyGa/BacBjgMWpekN1lR7uXbxVeh2qW; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmAal-0007S8-C5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:43:43 -0700 Message-ID: <4B8C0AD4.9090204@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:43:32 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig282209775BBC49E27E18D9CA" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Mouse Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:25:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig282209775BBC49E27E18D9CA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent: Originally sent over one hour ago. I'm not exactly sure what is going on here. Just about 10 minutes ago my mouse locked up and stopped responding, eventually forcing me to reboot because I couldn't get it to start responding again. I even had to unplug it from the USB port (it is a USB mouse) and plug it back in because it lost power for some reason. I tried restarting hald and dbus, figuring that was the problem, I also tried using sysinstall to configure the mouse to no luck. I have use of my mouse again, but my scroll wheel is no longer being recognized. I've once again tried using sysinstall and restarting hald and dbus to no avail. It's a fairly old (about 6-8 years) Logitech optical mouse (if I'm not mistaken, this is one with force feedback, but I'm not concerned about that feature). The applications I had running at the time were: OOo 3.1.1 WindowMaker FF 3.6 TB 3.0.1 Pidgin 2.6.5 Gkrellm2 with weather plugin I was actually on the phone talking with someone while trying to check up on some messages I had received via FaceBook when the mouse went out. At first I had thought that my computer had locked because nothing seemed to be responding, but a quick check showed me I could still alt+1-5 through my workspaces (keyboard is also USB and apparently suffered no such interruption). Both mouse and kb are on a PCI USB 2.0 expansion port because the builtins at the back of the box are on their way out (mobo is about as old as the mouse). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig282209775BBC49E27E18D9CA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLjArbAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0npYH/2X4o5SD13Wo5TVaC0ZN4OQE RJKFj2pwAHSKn7t6FRsxNT4Lrpa+BjEIQVp9pbTcwajTFNQfphidsOdoLWc17HUz uApE//L82lFv1oBH67vEKVpRPkmUnd6lW9wIoxK5Go6m5IxGbhRvJK/HKQyB10J+ e+4GxTFLcEvrLITDyVTjEfmrZVc73ShSZLEKCIwTiwYR5VVTmnD+v0lP+3W6fktB s42rfJ/j/CcqULHq8H5oukHWaXFacp6lQhx+iwWjJZ1cL74aZRBiwyU4G+BOoGeQ CVV9GBHNMRm1mQTUL1Us8K85QTc4wa526DxoeeNUgIuXL6hIxLL95xmh72luOZQ= =16/z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig282209775BBC49E27E18D9CA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 05:25:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13804106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1E258FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30195 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2010 05:25:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2010 05:25:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=RhrLWWEaV7CrdmYnkTEu2dLoR9bQMfPWzD7j3J2fpOH2megSwgY7JCqVirJEKGpGuggENxO8uWEaa/5JWFbE8GT0t99TrIRq6nzccSoCmYshZYSFi7IytaV+YpndKPbv; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nm9BE-0004To-HB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:13:16 -0700 Message-ID: <4B8BF5A0.9030007@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:13:04 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigCA983F815EB65E02647EA995" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Mouse Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:25:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigCA983F815EB65E02647EA995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not exactly sure what is going on here. Just about 10 minutes ago my mouse locked up and stopped responding, eventually forcing me to reboot because I couldn't get it to start responding again. I even had to unplug it from the USB port (it is a USB mouse) and plug it back in because it lost power for some reason. I tried restarting hald and dbus, figuring that was the problem, I also tried using sysinstall to configure the mouse to no luck. I have use of my mouse again, but my scroll wheel is no longer being recognized. I've once again tried using sysinstall and restarting hald and dbus to no avail. It's a fairly old (about 6-8 years) Logitech optical mouse (if I'm not mistaken, this is one with force feedback, but I'm not concerned about that feature). The applications I had running at the time were: OOo 3.1.1 WindowMaker FF 3.6 TB 3.0.1 Pidgin 2.6.5 Gkrellm2 with weather plugin I was actually on the phone talking with someone while trying to check up on some messages I had received via FaceBook when the mouse went out. At first I had thought that my computer had locked because nothing seemed to be responding, but a quick check showed me I could still alt+1-5 through my workspaces (keyboard is also USB and apparently suffered no such interruption). Both mouse and kb are on a PCI USB 2.0 expansion port because the builtins at the back of the box are on their way out (mobo is about as old as the mouse). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigCA983F815EB65E02647EA995 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLi/WnAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW075gH/2UO6AjofZW1knVUVYZPb+Ev 7mlkC8uE9muknwCzs1jWqwCOgj+KPnQgTHFg2t96+P1AEoFt9cLPiKVr7wjfkr9I KW7OZaeTlcMxH1od7uVTc/89N8B/aU+ekd/ffn3asvhtMnRe8O8MA1dCC1kFzpBO HX+b3iadF7X4I0kDrpC7orTZlhGsxuWw0GqginDO3Hl0KfX4dKLglZTe3GO5SfVI CeMhQFOIauG18cggSsasiGL7oSfAWv/Fs+QVHXuqGIipCS5uL5H+ni9b43w6LpLL iqx5tOMcf/6MSBPxgemE8fhIEEHBGB0izBcxGfC8ofSNaIiTFLUwqBPtUS5QwlA= =Xvbs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigCA983F815EB65E02647EA995-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 08:05:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B49B106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D1438FC21 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2010 08:05:06 -0000 Received: from pD952D0BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.208.191] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2010 09:05:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19hEHNyuVtheNe/F3AmFnuJsf6ONwD4HiImNibDBf O31Clyyso041QU Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:05:03 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Carmel Message-Id: <20100302090503.c3326fe1.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_09_05_03_+0100_JO1YHbBIvj5S3FRj" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.59999999999999998 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:05:09 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_09_05_03_+0100_JO1YHbBIvj5S3FRj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:42:19 -0500 Carmel wrote: > I installed a nVidia GeForce GT 220 card. > Now, the video is fine; however, there is no audio. > hdac0: mem 0xfcffc000= -0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 I ran into the same problem after installing a GT 240. The video cards support audio via HDMI. During boot the audio chip of the video card is found first (also snd_hda) and used as primary audio device. After kldunload / kldload snd_hda everything would work properly. As a workaround I do not load the snd_hda kernel module at boot, but with a cronjob @reboot. This way the normal sound card is found first. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_09_05_03_+0100_JO1YHbBIvj5S3FRj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuMxrIACgkQ8P3NNypXNWX1rQCglZJZbdakTsoDoqyXL4uPYdOQ 1b0AnjGwNIBPDa7RcyevVMQdlHHsUrZB =JWpv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_09_05_03_+0100_JO1YHbBIvj5S3FRj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 08:44:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53F110656C2 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76BC8FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1so3519gya.13 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:44:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YjdtdVnZwvdjIm4WIcLoBboDShME1XwBViFK/tx6AzU=; b=GuKDtFdBH2BKi4nVJMu3hKsZA/Sx24NIbeBWXcXeFbdzI5/ORO+9jo5rUV92If2Y26 CKW8Z6RZ6qkJ0iOnBVkSDA4QfapxSS5KVqDGscVc32R1f2NaNNGRMqmxVi0EMAkPTfah xUahpu8unYBrg6CiRZPBkXkdwxHorBkfF3YOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bFguX/Bz4JJISLP93mZg2HLeGHPYOSv3XoX83JkhBuq3pycZolld2wI4NWnCJ9ODTV wCPPXikH9/yUADvpGdfIuUsfj5/HmEbq6hrLecrNu+yYDEUL+xE9x9Pw0cnU+Drzw4o5 iWtJUz3zJb0qpHXfZg+rpfA5Eqtk2p6Q1xENI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.235.26 with SMTP id i26mr94500anh.163.1267519457801; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:44:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:44:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: indiana99@inbox.lv, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: RAID10 doen't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:44:19 -0000 >Hi, >I'd really appreciate it if somebody could help me out! >I have a box with a MB ASUS P5WDG2-WS Pro with two built-in SATA II RAID controllers >(Intel ICH7R and Marvell 88SE614x). >I installed 4 HDD WD WD5002ABYS (500GB each) on the 4 SATA ports of the Intel >ICH7R and using the Intel Matrix Storage Manager I created a RAID10 (Strip 14KB, Size >931.5GB, Status Normal, Bootable Yes) out of these 4 HDD. >Then in the BIOS I set the IDE Configuration to Configure SATA As [RAID], OnBoard >Serial-ATA BOOTROM [Enabled] and disable the Marvell SATA controller, for I use only >the Intel ICH7R. >Then I successfully installed FreeBSD 7.1 on the RAID partition, ar0. > >The installation completed successfully but the system persistently didn't boot and gave this >error message: > >F1 FreeBSD Default: F1 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad >(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: No /boot/kernel/kernel > >Thanks a lot, >Alex Hello, I know that this probably doesn't help much, but I do recall reading in several different places that support for Intel firmware raid in both FreeBSD and Linux is very shaky and limited a best. Is there any particular reason you want to use it instead of using ZFS or gmirror/gstripe/graid5? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 09:24:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA9910656A5 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7D28FC75 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so84636fga.13 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:24:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NhLSO+EcMZvR8hwD+vLOgmlMWk/n/XKnFeMEeR9KncU=; b=CJbt0Bd2bnbIiKVKADcefHSzniD1/8kGlh1wsNpTNPK/D2Jy/i+U7ZzLhM9gAPhqI7 +ZO64Lyml40xO9fqmkeHv474me7xEr7od64GK5bvOzMI8aXOn2TaCppFErWdD13zcOKv 3fcJQVJXXU6Cj4DaHC0t76xcbwchcQj4XpS6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kI4g5QlIOVWY9EiHtvNHr1syImOlsnI+pWHk7bet2th2Zm0J4dz9ZTjz6ktD/oYGhF Lz/lBFQPllFAIOaqhpL8l3qk92knrjWNSbcPiCekVsRjB2F6ZGrhjiDB9+oVCcxYGC6c 0eK5ZnZY2q4xbScIDNCOlrvWig9d/YVvMf+k4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.205 with SMTP id n13mr572149hbg.66.1267521860790; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:24:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:24:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Dan Naumov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, indiana99@inbox.lv Subject: Re: RAID10 doen't boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:24:43 -0000 On 2 March 2010 08:44, Dan Naumov wrote: > >Hi, > >I'd really appreciate it if somebody could help me out! > >I have a box with a MB ASUS P5WDG2-WS Pro with two built-in SATA II RAID > controllers > >(Intel ICH7R and Marvell 88SE614x). > >I installed 4 HDD WD WD5002ABYS (500GB each) on the 4 SATA ports of the > Intel > >ICH7R and using the Intel Matrix Storage Manager I created a RAID10 (Strip > 14KB, Size > >931.5GB, Status Normal, Bootable Yes) out of these 4 HDD. > >Then in the BIOS I set the IDE Configuration to Configure SATA As [RAID], > OnBoard > >Serial-ATA BOOTROM [Enabled] and disable the Marvell SATA controller, for > I use only > >the Intel ICH7R. > >Then I successfully installed FreeBSD 7.1 on the RAID partition, ar0. > > > >The installation completed successfully but the system persistently didn't > boot and gave this > >error message: > > > >F1 FreeBSD Default: F1 No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad > >(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: No /boot/kernel/kernel > > > >Thanks a lot, > >Alex > > Hello, I know that this probably doesn't help much, but I do recall > reading in several different places that support for Intel firmware > raid in both FreeBSD and Linux is very shaky and limited a best. Is > there any particular reason you want to use it instead of using ZFS or > gmirror/gstripe/graid5? > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > can you actually boot of a geom stripe? I dont think you can and raid10 has striping in it. As ZFS is very resource hungry i suspect thats why he went for a hardware setup From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 09:33:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BCF106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C894D8FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1DF10E77C; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:35:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k6fnSgrhuUUy; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:35:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CEC10E50A; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:35:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8CDB5A.4000304@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:33:14 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100226 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4B8B881C.1040008@eskk.nu> <20100301174901.95041084.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B8C0C6E.3020009@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4B8C0C6E.3020009@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED....Re: Adding slice on existing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:33:22 -0000 > At this screen: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD Disklabel Editor > > Disk: ad4 Partition name: ad4s4 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) > Disk: ad4 Partition name: ad4s3 Free: 0 blocks (0MB) > > Part Mount Size Newfs Part Mount Size Newfs > ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- ---- ----- > ad4s4d /data 30866MB UFS2+S Y > ad4s3a 1024MB * > ad4s3b swap 4096MB SWAP > ad4s3d 2048MB * > ad4s3e 4096MB * > ad4s3f 20480MB * > ad4s3g 28125MB * > > > > The following commands are valid here (upper or lower case): > C = Create D = Delete M = Mount pt. W = Write > N = Newfs Opts Q = Finish S = Toggle SoftUpdates Z = Custom Newfs > T = Toggle Newfs U = Undo A = Auto Defaults R = Delete+Merge > > Use F1 or ? to get more help, arrow keys to select. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Unfortunately at this point when I choose W to write the changes I get > the following error: > > Unable to add /dev/ad4s3b as a swap device: the device is busy > > This is the existing swap partition so I do not quite understand why I > get this error > > Then I choose OK and then I get: > Error mounting /dev/ad4s4d on /data : No such file or directory > I noticed after a restart that /dev/ad4s4 existed so I did a newfs -U /dev/ad4s4 and then I could mount it :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 09:38:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A10C1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF2D8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9340034D435; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:38:33 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:38:33 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003020938.33503.david@vizion2000.net> Subject: Hi - identifying cause of crash - a how to please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:38:37 -0000 Hi I have a specific situation which causes a system crash on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd64 on intel quad core. Can someone teach me how to trace the cause? The crash is repeatable in the following circumstances: (a) User logs in (b) % startx (c) kde4 loads and works the session (d) user logs out x session terminates. (e) user attempts to start a new x session with: (f) % startx (g) system crashes immediately System requires rebooting to single user mode. Run fsck -y and then go multiuser. Whereupon the cycle can be repeated. This event did not occur until kde was upgraded to kde 4.3.5. The video card is a winfast PX7800GT providing openGL with dual DVI. The crash problem was not present before upgrading to 3.4.5 so whilst not ruling out the card I am not assuming it is the video card. It would be helpful if the procedure could be identified clearly. I will post the results available on the web so someone who knows how to interpret them could take a look. Finally should I be asking this question on another maillist? Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 10:04:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA4D106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp4.comclark.com (avmxsmtp4.comclark.com [202.69.191.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501E38FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26492 invoked by uid 89); 2 Mar 2010 10:04:34 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 26458, pid: 26478, t: 1.0500s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.93.3/m: Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.10.3?) (202.69.174.43) by avmxsmtp4.comclark.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2010 10:04:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4B8CE2AB.8040504@comclark.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:04:27 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Programmer In Training References: <4B8C8876.9040601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4B8C8876.9040601@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mouse Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:04:38 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > Resend: Sorry if this has appeared twice before. First time sent at > 11:13 CST, sent a second time at 12:43 CST. Sending this one at > approximately 21:37 CST, CCing owner because this (posting new mails to > the list) is an on going problem I'm having. I would like to know what > the problem is so I can have some hand in trying to solve it. > > Now on to the problem at hand. > > I'm not exactly sure what is going on here. Just about 10 minutes (more > like several hours) ago my mouse locked up and stopped responding, > eventually forcing me to reboot because I couldn't get it to start > responding again. I even had to unplug it from the USB port (it is a USB > mouse) and plug it back in because it lost power for some reason. I > tried restarting hald and dbus, figuring that was the problem, I also > tried using sysinstall to configure the mouse to no luck. I have use of > my mouse again, but my scroll wheel is no longer being recognized. I've > once again tried using sysinstall and restarting hald and dbus to no avail. > > It's a fairly old (about 6-8 years) Logitech optical mouse (if I'm not > mistaken, this is one with force feedback, but I'm not concerned about > that feature). > > I was actually on the phone talking with someone while trying to check > up on some messages I had received via FaceBook when the mouse went out. > At first I had thought that my computer had locked because nothing > seemed to be responding, but a quick check showed me I could still > alt+1-5 through my workspaces (keyboard is also USB and apparently > suffered no such interruption). > > Both mouse and kb are on a PCI USB 2.0 expansion port because the > builtins at the back of the box are on their way out (mobo is about as > old as the mouse). > > Any ideas? Get a new mouse that old one is dieing fast. The copper wires will break over time and short out. And quit sending posts to freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org just send to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 10:13:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F3F106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A33B8FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmP6E-0002R9-LJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:13:10 +0100 Received: from pool-68-239-67-130.res.east.verizon.net ([68.239.67.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:13:10 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-68-239-67-130.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:13:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:12:24 -0500 Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <201003020938.33503.david@vizion2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-68-239-67-130.res.east.verizon.net Subject: Re: Hi - identifying cause of crash - a how to please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:13:12 -0000 David Southwell wrote: > Hi > > I have a specific situation which causes a system crash on freebsd 7.2 p3 > amd64 on intel quad core. Can someone teach me how to trace the cause? > > The crash is repeatable in the following circumstances: > > > (a) User logs in > (b) % startx > (c) kde4 loads and works the session > (d) user logs out x session terminates. > (e) user attempts to start a new x session with: > (f) % startx > (g) system crashes immediately > > System requires rebooting to single user mode. Run fsck -y and then go > multiuser. Whereupon the cycle can be repeated. > > > This event did not occur until kde was upgraded to kde 4.3.5. > > The video card is a winfast PX7800GT providing openGL with dual DVI. The > crash problem was not present before upgrading to 3.4.5 so whilst not > ruling out the card I am not assuming it is the video card. > > It would be helpful if the procedure could be identified clearly. I will > post the results available on the web so someone who knows how to > interpret them could take a look. > > Finally should I be asking this question on another maillist? > This is a good place to start, and if someone knows a better spot it will probably be indicated. I can't give you an in depth response, but maybe something to start with. The Kernel Debugging section of the Developer's Handbook may serve as an introduction to a few basics: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ You can also start right away by examining the .xsession-errors file you will find in the users home directory. Also, in /var/log look for the Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old. After restarting from a crash, if you startx the first one will only contain info on that startup; the second one (.old) may contain some info on what happened at the time of the previous crash, if it is indeed the X server crashing. Sometimes any errors to stdout may appear in /var/log/messages. Sometimes there may be informative error messages present which can be Googled, and other times nothing useful. The same with the .xsession-errors file - it usually contains information relevant to the applications which were running on top of X. If you are running the nvidia driver and see some evidence that it may be responsible for the crash, you could try substituting the nv driver as a test. This might help isolate the problem to the nvidia driver. But where to go from here is a good question. Sometimes if there is some problem wrt the nvidia driver after some kind of upgrade doing a make, make deinstall, and make reinstall of the nvidia driver port occasionally fixes something, but this is a long shot. Nvidia also has a web forum you might hunt around in. Also, if you are doing startx to start KDE with a .xinitrc file in the users home dir (with startkde in here), try it without so the default TWM window manager comes up instead of KDE. Then do the restart test and see if it crashes. This is a good way to separate the problem from being X related and/or KDE related. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 10:51:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17214106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s28.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s28.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E348FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP13 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s28.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:51:02 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP13.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:51:02 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3FBBC22838 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:51:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:51:00 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100302090503.c3326fe1.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <20100302090503.c3326fe1.cyb.@gmx.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2010 10:51:02.0554 (UTC) FILETIME=[404FB7A0:01CAB9F6] Subject: Re: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:51:04 -0000 On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:05:03 +0100 Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> articulated: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:42:19 -0500 > Carmel wrote: > > > I installed a nVidia GeForce GT 220 card. > > Now, the video is fine; however, there is no audio. > > > hdac0: mem > > 0xfcffc000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 > > I ran into the same problem after installing a GT 240. The video cards > support audio via HDMI. During boot the audio chip of the video card > is found first (also snd_hda) and used as primary audio device. > > After kldunload / kldload snd_hda everything would work properly. > > As a workaround I do not load the snd_hda kernel module at boot, but > with a cronjob @reboot. This way the normal sound card is found first. OK, now I am confused. This is the output of kldstat: /boot $ sudo kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 17 0xc0400000 a5eb64 kernel 2 1 0xc0e5f000 2f08 speaker.ko 3 1 0xc0e62000 a0d6f8 nvidia.ko 4 3 0xc1870000 29b98 linux.ko 5 1 0xc189a000 53cc sem.ko 6 1 0xc18a0000 6a4f8 acpi.ko 7 1 0xc773f000 7000 linprocfs.ko This is my 'loader.conf' /boot $ cat loader.conf speaker_load="YES" # AT speaker module nvidia_load="YES" # Load nvidia driver sem_load="YES" # Load the sem module for firefox-35 # Superpages vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled=1. I have sound compiled into my kernel: # Sound device sound device snd_hda # nVidia MCP51 sound support When I attempt to unload the driver, I receive this message: kldunload snd_hda kldunload: can't find file snd_hda Therefore, are you implying that I have to recompile my kernel without the sound device and then load it manually when I boot up? That seems like a bug in FreeBSD. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | The system will be down for 10 days for preventative maintenance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 13:00:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4614F106567D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A00008FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2010 13:00:35 -0000 Received: from pD952D0BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.208.191] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2010 14:00:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18rsE5arg4r/O3tgM7T/hlwscZzTp/RCelPU5QSPg Jdl+KwaoRG8sZZ Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:00:31 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20100302140031.3a2b28e9.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20100302090503.c3326fe1.cyb.@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_14_00_31_+0100_nqqv=ocR7/MRctZr" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.52000000000000002 Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:00:38 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_14_00_31_+0100_nqqv=ocR7/MRctZr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:51:00 -0500 Carmel wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:05:03 +0100 > Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> articulated: >=20 > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:42:19 -0500 > > Carmel wrote: > >=20 > > > I installed a nVidia GeForce GT 220 card. > > > Now, the video is fine; however, there is no audio. > >=20 > > > hdac0: mem > > > 0xfcffc000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 > >=20 > > I ran into the same problem after installing a GT 240. The video cards > > support audio via HDMI. During boot the audio chip of the video card > > is found first (also snd_hda) and used as primary audio device. > >=20 > > After kldunload / kldload snd_hda everything would work properly. > >=20 > > As a workaround I do not load the snd_hda kernel module at boot, but > > with a cronjob @reboot. This way the normal sound card is found first. > I have sound compiled into my kernel: >=20 > # Sound > device sound > device snd_hda # nVidia MCP51 sound support In that case you will not be able to unload/load the kernel module. Anyway, I looked again at the problem and the correct way is to simply set hw.snd.default_unit to the number of the correct pcm device. Since the graphic card uses pcm0 to pcm3, it should be pcm4. Take a look at the output of: %dmesg | grep hda You should see something like: pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 hdac1: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC883 pcm4: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1 So set hw.snd.default_unit=3D4 using sysctl or /etc/sysctl.conf. man snd_hda man sound man sysctl.conf=09 Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_14_00_31_+0100_nqqv=ocR7/MRctZr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuNC/MACgkQ8P3NNypXNWWDawCgi1BpHLXCun+oR3iv7Ky1+065 bKoAn1pXte3nb33i0RCHQp2IhaiMTkzk =nsQe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__2_Mar_2010_14_00_31_+0100_nqqv=ocR7/MRctZr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 13:31:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756861065679 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279C78FC2D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o22DK4FN038292 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:20:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o22DK3Rs038291 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:20:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:20:03 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100302132003.GH37778@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: "Expect" questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:31:54 -0000 What would be the right list for questions about "expect?" When I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.x to 8.0, my "expect" script broke, and I cannot for the life of me see why. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 13:56:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC891065670 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9548A8FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so139178ewy.3 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:56:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zocmE0otVtXk98yrwOxhWrFgO3WbjnLmuQVuEw5zuPg=; b=Wk60n/oTNqWElbod8AizmoGjwwzRReXcxooGYbjZ/dmRqPldr+xVntQojOovr0GQ1v DSzaqogS2M5TzeyFpxZkbyXy2cK6NKRP06MkkOCt4Ptj3rLLMfJze3eokhZdDOHNrlOu z0UTfSFB8PQQF22NluotpcQTDHD79FR19aMUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MSq2dgTO1xRH9uQA5TQDY/W1IVu0GnfRczte4fFbyHvA9STVG2RwgVxjl+CMsRvfXK pV1//D9ISeQ7fbaSddGcQghTQWFc73FHdBBeV/0DtlOMXMCgTFwRU47TUrXKRFGXPs1M VPi0rhyR1HZ4SW5EAyPQCqT2AGigEncaJDXBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.97.88 with SMTP id k24mr4686417ebn.86.1267538204118; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:56:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <35f70db11002230532v5f1c8d72y3755522df7e7f1a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <35f70db11002230532v5f1c8d72y3755522df7e7f1a8@mail.gmail.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:56:24 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0ddc9aefb7f6350a Message-ID: <35f70db11003020556k55bcbebck6fd52c602d0c57@mail.gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Netgraph VLan support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:56:52 -0000 bump On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > Hi there all > > I've trying to setup nested VLans using netgraph and most of my > googling suggests that this can be done. > =C2=A0 =C2=A0But alas it is not working on this side. I'm running a stand= ard > FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 AMD64. > > The below works just fine and creates a perfectly functional Vlan > interface ngeth0: > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------- > ifconfig bge0 10.123.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > kldload ng_ether > kldload ng_vlan > ngctl mkpeer bge0: vlan lower downstream > ngctl name bge0:lower vlanL1 > ngctl connect bge0: vlanL1: upper nomatch > ngctl mkpeer vlanL1: eiface vlan3555 ether > ngctl msg vlanL1: addfilter '{ vlan=3D3555 hook=3D"vlan3555" }' > ifconfig ngeth0 link 00:1a:4b:d4:3e:c2 > ifconfig ngeth0 10.124.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > The below however does not and just throws an error : > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ngctl mkpeer ngeth0: vlan lower downstream > ngctl name ngeth0:lower vlanL2 > ngctl connect ngeth0: vlanL2: upper nomatch > ngctl mkpeer vlanL2: eiface vlan2555 ether > ngctl msg vlanL2: addfilter '{ vlan=3D2555 hook=3D"vlan2555" }' > ifconfig ngeth1 link 00:1a:4b:d4:3e:c2 > ifconfig ngeth1 10.125.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > The error is: > ---------------- > ngctl: send msg: Protocol family not supported > ngctl: send msg: No such file or directory > > > > Any advice? > > > > > > -- > "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in > overalls and looks like work." > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thomas Alva Edison > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Inventor of 1093 patents, including: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. > --=20 "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 14:13:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032EB1065672 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A04B8FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1CD5134D435; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:13:49 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:13:49 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20100302132003.GH37778@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100302132003.GH37778@elwood.starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201003021413.49045.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: John Subject: Re: "Expect" questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:13:53 -0000 > What would be the right list for questions about "expect?" When I > upgraded from FreeBSD 4.x to 8.0, my "expect" script broke, and I > cannot for the life of me see why. > Odd though it may seem you might find the newsgroup: comp.lang.tcl This is the place to go with expect questions. Tcl is the core language fro expect. Learn one you know the other!! david Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 15:05:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB727106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afmcc@btinternet.com) Received: from smtp830.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp830.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.13.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 265828FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39350 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2010 14:38:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ryQ3oWRjuPJWtogelxGoQBeN/ptSmrOv1dme4/Wlbzlk3lSrjOuWWfWkz58y/WWKXWi7P39gtOHxERPqrBoai1MftkIoe6+Fko8zoz9ytbeAnR1byAAUZ1qTbpRD1HZ4kCVPbpWBYooEo/WBGv/8Nv6LDzMxaKq42SLjlPfBpZw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1267540712; bh=ZoZVVhbrO65W4clC9HLckD9L9+orzHMcWMgTbGbk95Y=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=f2tRLOy/OIASIOdCGBdX1pR/eKsHrX0zngL3R5e5Sj/o7tzlWymB+T36BNQZ+wSExEYv0GAIdPYANJ5ln5zOnv/kVVaIMiGwy7X17cwAmXhBVAjQw7pt8p642gP111uXRQrXHW3dBo/tfKK59t6PjyJ8y5OnhvpexiaNeP8zJbg= Received: from elena.home (afmcc@86.134.132.37 with login) by smtp830.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Mar 2010 14:38:32 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: GbC5zv6swBDAJAX2wjERvjXPaCXFiJJLdMa.NuzRNApZ X-YMail-OSG: goarAsMVM1mLaxYdNTTgKJZe_ltHk2BLv4iO92kcSYWpFtlUC_r1v2BcVMeI8KCmJfXoLb7i4udc5PX54XEGPe92S11LS3zn_npwXeu.0Qf.v.AjWxw09CqG9rSZYB7NLbPvJlPB5fx79x6mKWpEQKPrm7xPsEjmB3AQ0cRwdAGc_K7YW2NRiyjLd8V6vug51xSIo92VxjPPn0_wEB.AqLejweIpsTNPpBQUee.22V52B12Su1TiJ8Rue4NalgCyg3UUoY_Cz.Va6oZqTOUKTMWq26He90pizab3NqZj X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:38:38 +0000 From: Tony McC To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100302143838.3c172e2f@elena.home> In-Reply-To: <4B8C8536.2050309@a1poweruser.com> References: <4B8C8536.2050309@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Handbook Index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:05:15 -0000 On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:25:42 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: > I find it very hard to find the subject I am looking for in the > handbook. The index only gets me to the general area in the handbook > and then I have to (next page) through it looking for what I hope is > there. > > The Index really needs to be expanded to display each and every > sub-section of all the major sections now in the index. > > For example Installing from a "ms/dos partition" or "splash screen > usage". > > These are both subjects in the handbook but are not in the index. > What good is am index that does not index its content? > > The purpose of the index is to list all subjects documented in the > handbook so the reader can skim through the index and click on the > exact subject they want to read. Can not do that with the current > handbook index. > > So what do other people think? > Should I submit a Doc bug on this?? Hi "A1Poweruser", why don't you build book.txt (add WITH_TXT=yes to /etc/make.conf and rebuild the docs port)? Then you can just use grep to search for what you want. With the examples you gave, grep -in "msdos" or grep -in "splash screen" give me a few places to look. An index is useful in a dead-tree book, but for a 4Mb text file you might as well use grep. Tony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 15:24:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38EC106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4448FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd3ml3so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.149]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2010 08:24:57 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=3E9INaMoOeYA:10 a=VF9RaR9bft6c8SsOr3WyFg==:17 a=N54-gffFAAAA:8 a=lvbMJxvVAAAA:8 a=qb8heqiDX22YMuFm4CcA:9 a=ZWfKBw5P0smc9tjnQHfLoKN4avwA:4 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO proven.lan.provenpath.ca) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd3ml3so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2010 08:24:57 -0700 Received: from proven.lan.provenpath.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan.provenpath.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o22FOuYB006296 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: (from npapke@localhost) by proven.lan.provenpath.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o22FOuH8006293 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan.provenpath.ca: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:24:56 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003020724.56200.npapke@acm.org> Subject: Re: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:24:58 -0000 On March 1, 2010, Carmel wrote: > I was attempting to upgrade a Gateway GT5220 PC. The machine was > running FreeBSD-7.2 successfully. The sound system was functioning > correctly and gMplayer and Mplayer worked fine. The machine was using a > nVidia GeForce 6150 LE on-board card. I installed a nVidia GeForce GT > 220 card. The old on-board card did not support DVI. > > Now, the video is fine; however, there is no audio. Mplayer and > gMplayer both freeze when attempting to play or view anything. > > I have no idea how to debug this. Since I did not touch the audio, I > cannot figure it out. > > I did have a script that ran upon boot-up: > > /sbin/sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 > /sbin/sysctl dev.pcm.0.play.vchans=4 > /sbin/sysctl dev.pcm.0.rec.vchans=4 > /sbin/sysctl hw.snd.maxautovchans=16 > mixer vol 100:100 pcm 100:100 speaker 100:100 line 100:100 mic 0:0 cd > 100:100 =rec mic > > Previously, it ran without incident. Now, it produces this output: > > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.snd.pcm0.vchans' > dev.pcm.0.play.vchans: 4 -> 4 > sysctl: dev.pcm.0.rec.vchans: Operation not supported by device > hw.snd.maxautovchans: 16 -> 16 > mixer: unknown device: vol > usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ... > mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ... > mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ... > > This is from 'dmesg' > > dmesg -a|grep -i -A8 -B2 220 > pci3: on pcib3 > vgapci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem > 0xfb000000-0xfbffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xee000000-0xefffffff irq 16 > at device 0.0 on pci3 nvidia0: on vgapci0 > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io > vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io > nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > nvidia0: [ITHREAD] > hdac0: mem > 0xfcffc000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 hdac0: HDA Driver > Revision: 20090624_0136 > hdac0: [ITHREAD] > > I would really appreciate any assistance I could get. I really would > like the audio to work on this machine again. Try setting the folllowing sysctl knob: hw.snd.default_unit=1 You will also have to change the "dev.pcm.0" to "dev.pcm.1" in your script. If "1" doesn't work, try "2". -- Norbert Papke. npapke@acm.org http://saveournet.ca Protecting your Internet's level playing field From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 15:29:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27E7106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904EB8FC2F for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NmU1z-0000JH-Fb; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:29:12 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61DC3C44E04; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:29:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4B8D2EBF.8090704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:29:03 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <20100302132003.GH37778@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100302132003.GH37778@elwood.starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Expect" questions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:29:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John wrote: > What would be the right list for questions about "expect?" When I > upgraded from FreeBSD 4.x to 8.0, my "expect" script broke, and I > cannot for the life of me see why. Hi John, This sites might be good places to post your questions: http://www.stackoverflow.com/ http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/Scripting/TCL/ Obviously, make sure to include verbatim error messages and other output as that will make it a lot easier for folks to understand your script and help you troubleshoot it. Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLjS6/0sRouByUApARAgP2AKCrNPtarO1mGVXEfYAC1mdV/KmDDQCfdlj4 EVHvOFzVyl3fxroj01M9+Dc= =Elpg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 15:39:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689D0106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7E78FC1A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 93CCA34D435; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:39:45 +0000 (GMT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:39:45 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201003020938.33503.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003021539.45537.david@vizion2000.net> Subject: Re: Hi - identifying cause of crash - a how to please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:39:49 -0000 > David Southwell wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have a specific situation which causes a system crash on freebsd 7.2 p3 > > amd64 on intel quad core. Can someone teach me how to trace the cause? > > > > The crash is repeatable in the following circumstances: > > > > > > (a) User logs in > > (b) % startx > > (c) kde4 loads and works the session > > (d) user logs out x session terminates. > > (e) user attempts to start a new x session with: > > (f) % startx > > (g) system crashes immediately > > > > System requires rebooting to single user mode. Run fsck -y and then go > > multiuser. Whereupon the cycle can be repeated. > > > > > > This event did not occur until kde was upgraded to kde 4.3.5. > > > > The video card is a winfast PX7800GT providing openGL with dual DVI. The > > crash problem was not present before upgrading to 3.4.5 so whilst not > > ruling out the card I am not assuming it is the video card. > > > > It would be helpful if the procedure could be identified clearly. I will > > post the results available on the web so someone who knows how to > > interpret them could take a look. > > > > Finally should I be asking this question on another maillist? > > This is a good place to start, and if someone knows a better spot it will > probably be indicated. I can't give you an in depth response, but maybe > something to start with. The Kernel Debugging section of the Developer's > Handbook may serve as an introduction to a few basics: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ > > You can also start right away by examining the .xsession-errors file you > will find in the users home directory. Also, in /var/log look for the > Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old. After restarting from a crash, if you startx > the first one will only contain info on that startup; the second one (.old) > may contain some info on what happened at the time of the previous crash, > if it is indeed the X server crashing. Sometimes any errors to stdout may > appear in /var/log/messages. > > Sometimes there may be informative error messages present which can be > Googled, and other times nothing useful. The same with the .xsession-errors > file - it usually contains information relevant to the applications which > were running on top of X. > > If you are running the nvidia driver and see some evidence that it may be > responsible for the crash, you could try substituting the nv driver as a > test. This might help isolate the problem to the nvidia driver. But where > to go from here is a good question. Sometimes if there is some problem wrt > the nvidia driver after some kind of upgrade doing a make, make deinstall, > and make reinstall of the nvidia driver port occasionally fixes something, > but this is a long shot. > > Nvidia also has a web forum you might hunt around in. Also, if you are > doing startx to start KDE with a .xinitrc file in the users home dir (with > startkde in here), try it without so the default TWM window manager comes > up instead of KDE. Then do the restart test and see if it crashes. This > is a good way to separate the problem from being X related and/or KDE > related. > > -Mike > Thanks mike Will give all that a go. Incidentally found no.xsession-errors in user's directory. Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 15:47:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F9D106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:47:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from dd17730.kasserver.com (dd17730.kasserver.com [85.13.138.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE568FC15 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (f054166103.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.166.103]) by dd17730.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD5A186F2E89 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:47:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 432E515236; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:43:56 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:48:09 +0100 Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 41 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: jon.rz1.convenimus.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1267544636 39650 192.168.100.9 (2 Mar 2010 15:43:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:43:56 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090812 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Subject: Did something in the hashes change from 6 to 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:47:57 -0000 Mellow greetings! On a box running FreeBSD 6.something (probably 6.4) the boot drive died. I had never bothered to update it to 7 or 8, since I was planning to build a new computer anyway. Since I hadn't done that yet and I still needed the work of this machine, I just put in a new drive and installed 8.0. The deal is that a script I restored from backup doesn't quite work as I think it should. This is the part that somehow causes problems: !/bin/sh stty -echo read -p "Enter passphrase: " passphrase stty echo main=`echo "${passphrase}" | sha256 | cut -c 1-5` if [ "${main}" != "ddfab" ]; then echo "Wrong passphrase!" exit fi I have typed the password in question about a gazillion times, so I am pretty sure I got it right. But somehow the 'if' keeps kicking in. There are two possible reasons for this: 1. I have Alzheimer's. 2. Something about the way sha256(1) and/or digest(1) or one of the other commands in the script react differenly than before. Maybe there is another reason that I just don't see? Can someone help me out here? Regards, Chris -- Ich kam. Ich ging. Und ich war da gewesen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 16:03:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFCB106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B458FC0C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so253087ewy.3 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:03:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vn0M3taQnYxqv3g6v2ubaDZ7/wZ6cjKHjSKcY7nRI9Y=; b=VKV19flmM0J4Aweg4+RFPsEdG4ee2vLu81igtgB08Ci/drC1RdEbo4PAuK6IYbh00t EvlP2thl9ojKnwZM9AZEdbwDq358JiR2FCfGVF02ubcKb8Gm1jJT0/muz/TbN4okS8P+ 1cxf6jImvhyi3bHWc7DRP4VDQPIdh+VVG21Bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=df1p5unYthUqxRdtJHBtUlj1OKXIZ4m3Q7WJiVQugEmKSqv9mSdBesxfWy92P3PMBF jktrsricBRzGotoqY7nxJqHYWyab66izDWdzXbkNUsaBCyhuFdztkOVdpGEI4LcXaTla b1UxOf6x3fT04Wkg+rnGh1sPk0SvY5N3brL/A= Received: by 10.213.8.6 with SMTP id f6mr1032272ebf.93.1267545810673; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?123.233.110.186? ([123.233.110.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm3120982ewy.9.2010.03.02.08.03.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:03:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8D36D8.8070303@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:03:36 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <997836.8570.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <997836.8570.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [SOLVED] Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:03:36 -0000 James Phillips wrote: > I laughed at your question because I remember reading somewhere that using aggressive optimization options is a good way to find compiler bugs. I think that extends of optimizations for "new" CPU architectures as well. > I also heard kernel code avoids MMX instructions for some reason: it may have to do with interrupt handling (fewer registers=faster?). x86 (and AMD64) processors are backwards compatible, so you don't strictly need the latest instructions. > > Regards, > > James Phillips Ah , i've just read it may not be safe to use MMX and SSE instructions in kernel code. So my CFLAGS is much too agressive , i'll notice this. Thank you all. -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 17:36:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC04106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38F48FC15 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so428331bwz.3 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:36:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hGFuSaw6akkfQ+vzxLZVDV9wEE5butwmiQHKkuU5KHQ=; b=QKx26rpeHxgiEedtQ8uieaRpPg5d5+M4GS4ySl6fQgRF3YZGUFJTYQRgT1YKTRoCBe wvcwW+ThoVGTYfMxWwvA2VbO2WeZR2k/j6hpqAxGWJurl/LiSTTrQrrHx6yXViDPL8IC IPjmn8CSPF9ZF88Gi9/bzoK720p8CIdr3TnIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vXz3vclQsC+z6Sva4VY2QA1TYZPQO2yfRUcI0mSopXq2Ey95lDOjSV7Wy6jl+zbCbO gfHQae8xLm3+toGtcjeSr7Ffb1JWLVKZK7MJfy1i3HNIyAtuZJ+tLpzzZS9ZckClN3Mp dnJXG4XhBKBQPZKHx2PgYupbxmtLluO7iLK/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.216 with SMTP id d24mr4840822bkw.1.1267551363248; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:36:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8BF6E3.3040009@telting.org> References: <4B8BF6E3.3040009@telting.org> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:35:43 +0000 Message-ID: To: Chris Telting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spreculative: /bin2 & /usr/bin2 and alternative package/ports trees? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:36:12 -0000 On 1 March 2010 17:18, Chris Telting wrote: > Just wondering if anyone cares to share their thoughts about this. > > There are a few ports that I would love to see included in the base tree > such as OpenLDAP and the Openbsd pdksh or bash. =A0But It hasn't happened= and > isn't likely to happen. =A0So I was thinking about the pkg infrastructure= . > =A0The location of the pkg file database I believe can be specified. =A0A= nd the > installation directories I believe can also be specified. =A0Other than t= hat > paths would have to be changed for binaries and libraries and probably sh= are > and other installation points. > > This should allow separate package trees meaning that when I delete and > reinstall my main ports these programs will not be affected and the packa= ge > database info for these will not be screwed up. > > Is it possible and if it is has anyone implemented it on their own system= s? > > Or have people simply taken to installing ports in the main directories? > > > Chris Why does it make a difference with the prefix on where you put them? You shouldn't manually delete ports, anyway. You should deinstall them using the port... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 17:46:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1370C106566B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE948FC17 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o22HkD9i000471; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:46:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:46:13 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201003021746.o22HkD9i000471@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: ertr1013@student.uu.se, m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:46:23 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 28 06:00:33 2010 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:59:56 +0000 > From: Matthew Seaman > To: Erik Trulsson > Cc: freebsd-questions > Subject: Re: selling freebsd cd for profit > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 28/02/2010 11:43:42, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > The difference is that when you just give a link to a well-known site > > you have no guarantees that they will keep the source for that > > particular version of the software in question for as long as needed. > > Uh -- so what? Until the download site disappears, there's no problem. > If it does disappear, then /obviously/ you have to make alternative > arrangements. But that is a bridge that doesn't need to be crossed > until you've reached it. NOT so. The difference _is_ that people who got the software 'before' the download site disappeared have _only_ that download site as the reference for 'where to go' to get the source. Either you (the distributor) maintain a download site yourself -- so you can guarantee that the reference you give out _will_ be good/valid for the required time after the last copy of the code you gave out, *OR* you have to maintain a list of -everyone- who got your code -- directly or *indirectly* (this is the hard part, it _is_ freely redistributable, how do you know who it was RE-distributed to?) -- so that, if/when the 'well known' site stops carrying the source, you can notify *everybody* where the 'new' download site is. If the place where you 'told' someone they could find source-code disappears before the expiration of the required time, then you _are_ in violation of the license, even if the disappearance of that site was 'through no fault of your own'. The fact that said source-code is available 'somewhere else' does *NOT* mitigate the violation of the license terms. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 17:47:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ED3106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4777C8FC18 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20976 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2010 17:47:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2010 17:47:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=e0djs7Be4ZFzIlG6TnXi6eVsKclyO/LkFchpthskSFDKzSQeDqcllxUi8shM0DDnt7KKNFla8kadtA82H75OPNOyzbCPEeGydsOke2/W7v7bSTkvEJWurdHP8LHZLJ3m; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmWBc-0001GS-91 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:47:12 -0700 Message-ID: <4B8D4F15.701@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:47:01 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8BF6E3.3040009@telting.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6A1FF59D986118BA8C5F68E4" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: spreculative: /bin2 & /usr/bin2 and alternative package/ports trees? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:47:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6A1FF59D986118BA8C5F68E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/02/10 11:35, Chris Rees wrote: > Why does it make a difference with the prefix on where you put them? > You shouldn't manually delete ports, anyway. You should deinstall them > using the port... >=20 > Chris I think he's talking about how with Debian and apt you can specify different repositories to install from without messing up the base system. My problem with that is that dependency resolution quickly breaks if you have one of the repositories out of sync with the others. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig6A1FF59D986118BA8C5F68E4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLjU8bAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW056QH/1+jFAYmS4WMFou5/zAk/JzT Y3k2oI4o9Bfck+B/GJYZOay5YKgpd+PUGu9MyfEWSJCMyrCmuuRZ2oKMAXy2nNUA k1tmd/GY2cny4WD+GoNdzdTbO7cl0hHzQoG4ZsUIIpz5Pfm9Sr3B/y8vtJzKacll +rmmNBOXvX6Yjl8pYU9gnckdkK9MtIf3aGu65/n7Gt6f6uB11//+mbXr6R5nvXz/ eC3SFiZ7yqtPUrTGS9GC6naoDdDLHiHwPrC6rZ9NgO2zILChth0VZ+l5oNuB06mZ 4JD6UfcTT6+hf5XUCe00BKrdW0K49WYmGMw1uxt0gl7ZsvzhUt9TEqbkHXEaHsk= =wheb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6A1FF59D986118BA8C5F68E4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 17:50:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A8106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337CB8FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o22HnrHf018554 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:49:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003021749.o22HnrHf018554@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:49:53 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:50:06 -0000 The boot.config file I thought would boot mfsbsd on what was the swap partition is not working. On this particular drive, ad0s1a is the normal FreeBSD partition and ad0s1b is swap. The idea is to use dd to write the mfsboot.img file to /dev/ad0s1b and then boot from there. My boot.config file is as follows: -P rootdev="disk2s1b" root_disk_unit="0" I get the following message from the serial console: /boot.config: -P rootdev="disk2s1b" root_disk_unit="0" FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)root_disk_unit="0" boot: No root_disk_unit="0" FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)root_disk_unit="0" boot: The message Default: 0:ad(0,a)root_disk_unit="0" does seem to be what one would expect for the ad0s1a partition but I don't think I am telling the system to boot as the mfsboot.img file does work if one writes it to /dev/ad0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 19:45:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025CC106567B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8848FC24 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D856EB4828; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553C0160D1E; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HBysJabNfHSS; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-230-198.home.otenet.gr [94.64.230.198]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BCF160D1C; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o22JjCiQ003179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o22Fbpof002896; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:37:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Aaron Lewis References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:37:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> (Aaron Lewis's message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:38:45 +0800") Message-ID: <87iq9e7n01.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:45:18 -0000 On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:38:45 +0800, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Hi, > I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some > flags to gcc. > Kinds of "-march=core2" , i tried to modify /etc/make.conf > e.g CFLAGS += -march=core2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse > But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? > > And is that useful to let gcc select cpu specified asm code ? See the section "3.17.14 Intel 386 and AMD x86-64 Options" in the gcc Info manual. It contains a full list of the supported CPU-TYPE values for the -mtune=CPU-TYPE option. The -march=CPU-TYPE option accepts the same CPU types: `-march=CPU-TYPE' Generate instructions for the machine type CPU-TYPE. The choices for CPU-TYPE are the same as for `-mtune'. Moreover, specifying `-march=CPU-TYPE' implies `-mtune=CPU-TYPE'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 19:45:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397C2106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8268FC23 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDA7EB4839; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93330160D1C; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id au44w-QdwyGY; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-230-198.home.otenet.gr [94.64.230.198]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC22160D15; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o22JjCiS003179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:45:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o22Fm1g8002985; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:48:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Aaron Lewis References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> <3a142e751002280624w6f38d297o65b88301b3e5f8d@mail.gmail.com> <4B8A7FA7.1070200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:48:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4B8A7FA7.1070200@gmail.com> (Aaron Lewis's message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:37:27 +0800") Message-ID: <87eik27mj2.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Paul B Mahol , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:45:18 -0000 On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:37:27 +0800, Aaron Lewis wrote: >Paul B Mahol wrote: >>On 2/28/10, Aaron Lewis wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some >>> flags to gcc. Kinds of "-march=core2" , i tried to modify >>> /etc/make.conf >>> >>> e.g CFLAGS += -march=core2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse >>> But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? >> >> It is bad idea to compile kernel with custom flags. And gcc in FreeBSD >> doesn't know about core2, >> use 'native' if you must. >> >> >>> And is that useful to let gcc select cpu specified asm code ? >> >> Only for some userland stuff like openssl. > > Really ? It's bad to use custom flags to compile kernel , why do you > think so ? I'd like to know more about this : ) > > So setting optimize compiler flags is only useful for userland stuff ? Please do not post your reply on *top* of the original text to this list. The preferred form of replying is bottom-posting here (other lists may have their own rules, but that's ok). I've fixed this message manually, but it would be nice if you posted your reply to the bottom of the quoted text. You can definitely *try* using optimizations for the kernel too. The FreeBSD developers and other users cannot _force_ you to use only a very limited set of options. You are more than free to try new things. This is precisely the reason why we make the source tree available to everyone, including detailed instructions for rebuilding the entire system from source. Note that the kernel is a very special program that may or may not work with some of the optimizations performed by higher GCC levels, though. There may be problems, so if you start building optimized kernels please make sure you keep a 'safe' backup copy of /boot/kernel before you install a new one. This way you will at least be able to boot into the old kernel if anything breaks. One way to keep a backup copy of the kernel is to make sure your /boot partition has enough free space and type as root: # cp -a /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.safe Then if anything goes wrong, you can always break into the loader prompt and type: boot> unload boot> set module_path="/boot/kernel.safe;/boot/modules" boot> load kernel boot> boot -s Note that any optimization levels higher than the defaults are not 'supported' by the FreeBSD team though. As the warning in make.conf says [/usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf]: # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimization settings other than -O and -O2 are not recommended # or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any # nonstandard optimization settings to "-O" or "-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing" # before submitting bug reports without patches to the developers. So if you start building highly-optimized kernels and userland binaries, you are on your own. Bumping in any problem will require that you revert to the standard optimization flags, rebuild everything, try to reproduce the problem again and *then* report it. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 19:53:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3E1065676 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660898FC1F for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o22JrdtL058702 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B8D6CC3.6040502@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:53:39 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is ath network driver unstable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:53:40 -0000 I don't use WiFi much. But every time I try, my system is likely to hang soon thereafter. For example, yesterday I tried to connect to one WiFi that doesn't exist any more. And accidentally left it in UP and RUNNING state. And after few hours system hanged. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 21:09:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CCE106566C for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF318FC0A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o22L97W3003318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:09:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B8D7E79.3040705@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:09:13 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:09:08 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o22L97W3003318 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Help ipfw / nat / JetDirect Pain Appreciated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:09:13 -0000 I would appreciate any insight you folk here might have for the following problem. What I am trying to do is have wireless clients on one network print to a JetDirect-connected printer on another network as follows: Machine A is a NATing firewall (FBSD 8.0) for nonroutable network A - 192.168.0.x Machine A is a NATing wireless router (Linksys WRT-54G) for nonroutable network B - 192.168.1.x Both Machine A and B have static routable addresses and are directly connected to the internet. They are also on the same subnet. In fact, they're plugged into the same switch that the internet hose comes in on. There is an HP Laserjet connected via JetDirect on the first network at 192.168.0.122. I have added this to machine A's NAT config to make that port appear on the outside IP address: redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.102:9100 machine.A.IP.addr:9100 natd was then restarted. I then added this firewall rule on Machine A: ipfw add allow tcp from machine.B.IP.addr to machine.A.IP.addr 9100 And the firewall was restarted. Now, I jump onto a machine on (wireless) Network B and attempt to telnet to port 9100 on machine A, just to see if the port is properly being redirected and I can get to it. Machine A burps out the following in /var/log/security: ipfw: 7500 Deny TCP machine.B.IP.addr:49192 192.168.0.102:9100 in via fxp0 Anyone have an idea what's going on here? It looks like the telnet is attempting to rendezvous on port 49192 but the firewall isn't letting that happen. Any idea how I add a rule to permit this? TIA, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 21:26:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C801D1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2408FC16 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1so416920gya.13 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:26:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=T6dLZc/m2PqckdWQseny7GFP6kKP8S0awFc36HToT5c=; b=qdYQhDEiQJWZdeM6h31YZ9Zvt1+SPkODmBjieo2Ut9d/99dWrZqd04NN1qzzasYQ5p eqcQNC6JOK7gT5BPLVY9jj44MfiOPJJI5RkpCv6VVdhIQunOhMW+9+zDNQ12Jwn8CpMY E/a1SvtmhxT7YxBGGsCJ2nqDq2oSbid3qFzoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=A4HseLZlIaTGiuASYdfwQ8BMnBGZRlZUNo19twUWTCWJpVHKhKe0y8DHEnckwPMcIz h8L3YYIAzoSQOZX+Yv3m6KNJHjeQ4ywWAdFu6bxlhYkz8ZucoQiFGd4a93uAY248nwcy H6spLH99+jYEpiKAQdXimiPpVWJP48ky1m8sU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.245.27 with SMTP id s27mr374554anh.162.1267565180569; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:26:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:26:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:26:28 -0000 >See the section "3.17.14 Intel 386 and AMD x86-64 Options" in the gcc >Info manual. It contains a full list of the supported CPU-TYPE values >for the -mtune=CPU-TYPE option. The -march=CPU-TYPE option accepts the >same CPU types: > > `-march=CPU-TYPE' > Generate instructions for the machine type CPU-TYPE. The > choices for CPU-TYPE are the same as for `-mtune'. Moreover, > specifying `-march=CPU-TYPE' implies `-mtune=CPU-TYPE'. Hello Out of curiosity, what is the optimal "-march=" value to use for the new Atom D510 CPU: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43098 ? Thanks - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 23:33:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B4C106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032E58FC2D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-37-201.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.37.201]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C731E70F; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:33:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o22NWxDN001555; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:32:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:32:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Leslie Jensen Message-Id: <20100303003259.4b0871b4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B8CDB5A.4000304@eskk.nu> References: <4B8B881C.1040008@eskk.nu> <20100301174901.95041084.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B8C0C6E.3020009@eskk.nu> <4B8CDB5A.4000304@eskk.nu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SOLVED....Re: Adding slice on existing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:33:02 -0000 On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:33:14 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I noticed after a restart that /dev/ad4s4 existed so I did a > newfs -U /dev/ad4s4 and then I could mount it :-) Just as an addition: I think "/etc/rc.d/devfs restart" would cause the device file to appear correctly, too. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 23:35:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C14B1065673 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129B98FC25 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:35:54 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,570,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="27425868" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2010 00:35:52 +0100 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id D35B71B07C1; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:35:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:35:52 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: reverse scsi emulation possible (camatapi)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:35:55 -0000 hi there, people with atapi devices have been used to having the atapicam(4) option enabled in their kernel conf so applications relying on the scsi(4) subsystem (such as cdrecord or growsisofs) work with those atapi devices. since the whole ata(4) infrastructure will eventually die: is there a way to use applications relying on the ata(4) subsystem (such as burncd) with the cam(4) infrastructure? my kernel conf includes the ATA_CAM option and this is the output of `camcontrol devlist`: at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,ada0) `atacontrol list` reports (as can be expected) no devices. i'd really like to benefit from the ATA_CAM improvements, yet continue using ata(4) applications (i like the simplicity of burncd in contrast to cdrecord). cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 23:50:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707201065673 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225608FC08 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP82 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:50:16 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP82.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:50:15 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A399C2283A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:50:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:50:14 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100302140031.3a2b28e9.cyb.@gmx.net> References: <20100302090503.c3326fe1.cyb.@gmx.net> <20100302140031.3a2b28e9.cyb.@gmx.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2010 23:50:16.0149 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BA02850:01CABA63] Subject: Re: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:50:17 -0000 On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:00:31 +0100 Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> articulated: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:51:00 -0500 > Carmel wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:05:03 +0100 > > Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> articulated: > > > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:42:19 -0500 > > > Carmel wrote: > > > > > > > I installed a nVidia GeForce GT 220 card. > > > > Now, the video is fine; however, there is no audio. > > > > > > > hdac0: mem > > > > 0xfcffc000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 > > > > > > I ran into the same problem after installing a GT 240. The video > > > cards support audio via HDMI. During boot the audio chip of the > > > video card is found first (also snd_hda) and used as primary > > > audio device. > > > > > > After kldunload / kldload snd_hda everything would work properly. > > > > > > As a workaround I do not load the snd_hda kernel module at boot, > > > but with a cronjob @reboot. This way the normal sound card is > > > found first. > > > I have sound compiled into my kernel: > > > > # Sound > > device sound > > device snd_hda # nVidia MCP51 sound > > support > > In that case you will not be able to unload/load the kernel module. > > Anyway, I looked again at the problem and the correct way is to simply > set hw.snd.default_unit to the number of the correct pcm device. > > Since the graphic card uses pcm0 to pcm3, it should be pcm4. Take a > look at the output of: > > %dmesg | grep hda > > You should see something like: > > pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 > hdac1: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC883 > pcm4: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1 > > So set hw.snd.default_unit=4 using sysctl or /etc/sysctl.conf. > > man snd_hda > man sound > man sysctl.conf Great, I just went and rebuilt the kernel sans sound and now I find the answer. Anyway, this is what the output for "dmesg | grep -i hda" was before I rebuilt the kernel: hdac0: mem 0xfe024000-0xfe027fff irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136 hdac0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: HDA Codec #1: Realtek ALC883 pcm0: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 hdac0: mem 0xfe024000-0xfe027fff irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136 hdac0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: HDA Codec #1: Realtek ALC883 pcm0: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 hdac0: mem 0xfe024000-0xfe027fff irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136 hdac0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: HDA Codec #1: Realtek ALC883 pcm0: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 now, "dmesg | grep -i hda" lists nothing So if I rebuild the kernel with sound, I should set hw.snd.default_unit=4, is that correct? Couldn't I use '3' also? -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not BICKER and ARGUE over who killed who! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 23:56:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB5A106564A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DD18FC1D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP19 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:56:48 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.160.65] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.160.65]) by BLU0-SMTP19.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:56:47 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 924402283A for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:56:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:56:46 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201003020724.56200.npapke@acm.org> References: <201003020724.56200.npapke@acm.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2010 23:56:47.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[05242030:01CABA64] Subject: Re: Lost audio after new Video card installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:56:49 -0000 On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:24:56 -0800 Norbert Papke articulated: > Try setting the folllowing sysctl knob: > > hw.snd.default_unit=1 > > You will also have to change the "dev.pcm.0" to "dev.pcm.1" in your > script. If "1" doesn't work, try "2". Thanks, I will try it once I rebuild the kernel for sound. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | You can always tell the people that are forging the new frontier. They're the ones with arrows sticking out of their backs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 04:57:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA83106568A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D8B8FC1F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 04:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so615906gwa.13 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:57:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P/W8/txIiE8NEkRvU1TvB9DqAXE5bJhDzBxg1CHCVxU=; b=XhBqtYpLdajiT+soAPnvTea+OIs0EpaWlu0f+YMWFGnN+RjUgrLVmMX0dfyq2t8efI 7dbtneWZVDsKO1VGDiOSWZ+K6RtOAizUaLQcT6d2Qo49yh2U30RGpDbIZ+Nv17pX8M1t QyMPGp5RBxDsA/h3PZGO0D6I3Ce9fYliaXGXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CZlMQDlKA7GyiDs37lwMs09Z4f/XtvbJDD79eISmgCP+iCq7rgmqoic+aOPh2j+2ic l7jHUCPvugLWJx6ywdlMeYZ0rx0G1+E3l1AVn6NpPa9MsGR/OCEfRJaF5rBCjIgamUeg sNej6FtIxruvvl4XbZrg3yg3NktsaVkV4e8RQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.40.4 with SMTP id n4mr2043537agn.44.1267592240163; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:57:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Aaron Lewis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:57:25 -0000 On 28 February 2010 07:38, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Hi, > =A0 I gonna recompile kernel for my core2 CPU , so i'd like to pass some = flags > to gcc. > =A0 Kinds of "-march=3Dcore2" , i tried to modify /etc/make.conf > =A0 =A0 e.g =A0 =A0CFLAGS +=3D -march=3Dcore2 -O20 -ffast-math -mfpmath= =3Dsse > =A0 But it fails .. bad arch switch , core2 cpu is not supported ? Just so you know -O20 is the same as saying -O3. I don't think everything in base is safe for -ffast-math, but setting it in make.conf will surely test that. -O2 is already turned on almost everywhere by default, so also, I believe, with -fomit-frame-pointer. The only thing I've ever found to be remotely useful to change was -Os on an old, space-restricted machine. But last time I tried -Os on amd64 it broke. 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If you would like infor= mation on .other chapters=92 events, please refer to this calendar. http://www.sensorexpert.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 09:05:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EBE1065672 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFCF8FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so392713pvg.13 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:05:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=zmgsT822mFNANU+mJKhhOFwNrREueF4VEv1xX6xkWhU=; b=dYY81RYcxL/9fY5TeqLQkMOQAwa/avbAsQ0mRyJbiucKviISuqD8JutqyZtOYbB39R KinDwbhzPlps3qalacvfXq+GpQlUdRGsZxVlwaBhWbxEdZQluJ7a1XGU43HXBwm4LQXh yGM6AwtifgznzRhj6KJ5PnfYPOwaro9OnCDTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Rgw8acuf/YIaZi3L7r72TusndTZqiYpTmI0qlEZ3kZjd7xnCuS+t8XBCvXO5H7r6V7 d8X+gTPAQslukcewHUY8YkljndS8tkm9GHiWLt52wKZzdUgOkZO4oR3BSOfFSLIAoNmE TGVLDqa6OeVKXqdOt7FbWV9IVItRhY+pDZ+Yo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.249.21 with SMTP id w21mr195644wfh.302.1267607116683; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:05:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:05:16 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 8.0 reboot hangs at welcome screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:05:25 -0000 I have a server with VMware ESXi4 with two FreeBSD-amd64 virtual machines (one 7.2, one 8.0). I wanted to do a shutdown -r of the 8.0 machine. The system when down, started 'Rebooting ..', showed the FBSD Welcome screen, counted down 10 seconds, .. then nothing happened, waited about 5 minutes nothing happened. I had do power-off the Virtual Machine, then power-on and it rebooted. After that I saw the time (date command) on that machine was 5 minutes behind ... Why is that? And can the 5 minutes behind in time be caused by that 5 minute 'hang' period? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 09:24:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30D51065673 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f204.google.com (mail-yw0-f204.google.com [209.85.211.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E4B8FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh42 with SMTP id 42so350972ywh.7 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:24:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=aDTfaSXQAfM7ncK81xKAH6VDT4NmniY00dK3ZCMQWGE=; b=ZE8gidlhE+PxJWrUv1vmtIzQhkT8Ji7hZDP7hceBI/7aUNSmA60l6oAN9BN+H65uHM ufzCdSxWkWZ9fEo1/THL4SZsN+LvTTZpMn0uSH0hCDGuWsLISfGauLporYaRmRpAY1Qu tMiMRqSVGLMPi+y4bCVkoYkDiuzZgCn8ZnQdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pJIsBgHe+MjhCRuFCsdlblgGKsU9XxHqt6w+Glzq6q3Ljw+sZKoOyiC2/S/BtT67/H 1d9Qi8kSN/jzmFMQLPmoZu+tJHBnoYSg2J+uodIGQ2p/pbDd9LIUGaj+B45rQ5Y5zzht WUy5QJazuufKe1nWn6bapjwqw8zAvfDDZdH+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.27.34 with SMTP id e34mr1561960anj.129.1267608249244; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:24:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: locale settings and displaying file names in multiple languages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:24:18 -0000 Hello I have a 8.0/amd64 system serving a few Samba shares. Windows clients write files to some of these shares using multiple languages: english, finnish and russian. When accessed from any given Windows client, the file and directory names all look correct. However when accessing these same files locally, the file- and directory names that utilize russian and finnish languages are full of question marks, like this for russian: -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 11M Feb 21 2008 ???????????? ?????????? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 9.2M Feb 21 2008 ??????????-?????????????????? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 6.3M Feb 21 2008 ?????????????????? ????... -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.6M Feb 21 2008 ???????????????????????? ???????? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.1M Feb 21 2008 ?????????????? ???????? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.7M Feb 21 2008 ?????????????? and like this for finnish: drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 13 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - Hoitovirhe drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 7 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - Niuva 20 drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 13 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - Pirun Nyrkki drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 12 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - U.S.C.H.! And operating on these files locally is tricky to say the least: for example I cannot do a: cd "???????????? ??????????" for obvious reasons, because there is no directory that REALLY has all those question marks. However, I am still able to browse and operate on these files using Midnight Commander, somehow it actually works. How do I need to set the locale settings on the FreeBSD machine so that all file names are displayed correctly when operated on locally? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 09:37:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1807106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8638FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:9008:5657:6402:63f9] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:9008:5657:6402:63f9]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id AD45023 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:37:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8E2DC4.7050805@stillbilde.net> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:37:08 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: locale settings and displaying file names in multiple languages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03.03.2010 10:24, Dan Naumov wrote: > Hello > > I have a 8.0/amd64 system serving a few Samba shares. Windows clients > write files to some of these shares using multiple languages: english, > finnish and russian. When accessed from any given Windows client, the > file and directory names all look correct. However when accessing > these same files locally, the file- and directory names that utilize > russian and finnish languages are full of question marks, like this > for russian: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 11M Feb 21 2008 ???????????? ?????????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 9.2M Feb 21 2008 ??????????-?????????????????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 6.3M Feb 21 2008 ?????????????????? ????... > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.6M Feb 21 2008 > ???????????????????????? ???????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.1M Feb 21 2008 ?????????????? ???????? > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.7M Feb 21 2008 ?????????????? > > and like this for finnish: > > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 13 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t > - Hoitovirhe > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 7 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t > - Niuva 20 > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 13 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t > - Pirun Nyrkki > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 12 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t > - U.S.C.H.! > > And operating on these files locally is tricky to say the least: for > example I cannot do a: cd "???????????? ??????????" for obvious > reasons, because there is no directory that REALLY has all those > question marks. However, I am still able to browse and operate on > these files using Midnight Commander, somehow it actually works. How > do I need to set the locale settings on the FreeBSD machine so that > all file names are displayed correctly when operated on locally? > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It's actually an illusion. It happens because ls quite rightly refuses to spew characters the terminal capabilities doesn't state that can be displayed, simply because they might send control characters to the terminal that may or may not corrupt the display. If you use completion (f.eks. tab), you'll see a ton of \#0x??? or whatnot being the actual pathname. If you're really intent on displaying the directory, try "echo *" //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuOLcQACgkQODUnwSLUlKS7ZACgkHbTiMS/Nd3Bvt+9TSwaCt3i xjAAoIA3d9vZg8CnqPTC6R7dWyJ9FtSR =ig8W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 12:34:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7846106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:34:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plukawski@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6D68FC19 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so785526fxm.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:33:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HS7oceUkT3BXV3LDYqfHQnX74OsZRCW1iN8QhLRQvOk=; b=GMWi1AlJUffGbggWd2Qi2d/04BxBxX9J9qExablIftJLx1uHJkpsKS5Okpidb2qs7U 7gP8DK5EngqIuuoGzqbFDqfoalLkDhnOmU/hAjmw1uWzUXPI6g+7O70TgCJnPJV/cMFm 88Az+d/PePwWOiPy8KRGDJUhbE6CZjtHLuhdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cCUinkjNhHBmRkjTEjdcIOCdOw4lx6h61Xw2UZwjWveTU7lW9sLGL5U1nKbBzGGZcv oGrGgp8jto4v1RqL5dfFlfcY9Fm7EsaPQ5zmJk5FLhDUnSwbkKoo25rYTTCetogNVkb8 a0/eLIc/NY5MmbevbmQQPhcETfsdaM0njZOXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.160.131 with SMTP id c3mr786127hbd.119.1267619633996; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:33:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:33:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: Piotr Lukawski To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: plukawski@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:34:02 -0000 Dears, I need to install Freebsd 8.0 using floppy and then ftp, but there are no floppy images in ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/mentioned in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html I tried so install Freebsd 7 using availiable floppy (successful) and update it to 8.0 (after 3 days finally error and now now whole /usr directory so I am stacked). Could you please produce install floppy images for Freebsd 8.0? Please please please. I have no power to do the install of 7, upgrade and fail again :-( Thanks in adavance. Piotr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 12:44:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4319B1065670 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A308FC12 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmnwT-0001sF-US for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:44:45 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:44:45 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:44:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:44:36 +0100 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20100118 Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Did something in the hashes change from 6 to 8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:44:48 -0000 On 03/02/10 16:48, Christian Baer wrote: > Mellow greetings! > > On a box running FreeBSD 6.something (probably 6.4) the boot drive died. > I had never bothered to update it to 7 or 8, since I was planning to > build a new computer anyway. Since I hadn't done that yet and I still > needed the work of this machine, I just put in a new drive and installed > 8.0. > > The deal is that a script I restored from backup doesn't quite work as I > think it should. This is the part that somehow causes problems: > > !/bin/sh > stty -echo > read -p "Enter passphrase: " passphrase > stty echo > main=`echo "${passphrase}" | sha256 | cut -c 1-5` > if [ "${main}" != "ddfab" ]; then > echo "Wrong passphrase!" > exit > fi > > I have typed the password in question about a gazillion times, so I am > pretty sure I got it right. But somehow the 'if' keeps kicking in. > > There are two possible reasons for this: > > 1. I have Alzheimer's. > 2. Something about the way sha256(1) and/or digest(1) or one of the > other commands in the script react differenly than before. > > Maybe there is another reason that I just don't see? sha256 and the like cannot change because they are standard algorithms and changing them would break a lot of things. Something else must be the problem. Maybe previous versions got newlines in the $passphrase variable or something like that? You will need to check output of every step of the script separately. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 13:18:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41746106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas.lawrence@bbconsult.co.uk) Received: from mail.bbconsult.co.uk (mail.bbconsult.co.uk [94.76.193.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE198FC19 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 87-194-16-76.bethere.co.uk ([87.194.16.76] helo=[10.16.1.39]) by mail.bbconsult.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nmo0Z-0005ZA-3r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:48:59 +0000 Message-ID: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:49:12 +0000 From: Thomas Lawrence Organization: Blueberry Software User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:18:59 -0000 Hello Guys and Gals, Can you clear something up for me. Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox on Freebsd8. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 13:38:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066E9106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@webcontracts.co.uk) Received: from batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.95.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20D18FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.webcontracts.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3255964005 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:38:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 212.159.19.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mlaw) by www.webcontracts.co.uk with HTTP; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:38:48 -0000 Message-ID: <15e0a5285843b65f89b049c338ad8081.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:38:48 -0000 From: "Matthew Law" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Stress testing a new FreeBSD server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:38:50 -0000 I would be grateful if anyone could recommend any tests, scripts, ports or packages which would stress test a new FreeBSD box? - both CPU and disk I/O. I would particularly like to get the processors nice and warm! :-) We already use bonnie++, unixbench, etc. but I was wondering if there is a proper suite of tools for doing just this and google hasn't brought up anything particularly appealing. Thanks in advance, Matt. 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([123.233.108.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm5829648pzk.13.2010.03.03.06.15.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:15:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:15:40 -1200 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:15:36 -0000 On 3/3/2010 1:48 AM, Andreas Davour wrote: > > I am thinking of buying a new laptop, and want one which will work > fine with FBSD. Anyone have any suggestions? > > It must have a connector for a external screen (i.e. a projector when > doing presentations), wireless, ~15" screen, lots of memory, and > optical unit, and preferable a long battery time (i.e. CPU speed is > not that important). > > Webpages, own experiences or any other comparisons available? > > Please cc me if answering. > > /andreas > You May want to checkout this list: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ Here's some suggestions , don't choose ATI video cards. ( No UNIX Drivers .. ) Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video Card , FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 14:22:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCCC106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34E098FC1B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4956 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2010 14:22:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2010 14:22:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=fvVSNrYhkiaIYrSGv82W+XYdoOB36iQrLZf4V3WxoDpvEFGDGDQ+ir5knLVNXBW5Vew9UnLkrrQv6frw7q6myA7kf7oAksweoJawrri2a0a86Ru7SdP3Clu51EC9OeRW; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmpTH-0003Hw-4j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:22:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4B8E709E.1080202@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:22:22 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF8A90CF1E04BDCA1BCEB9F9B" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:22:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF8A90CF1E04BDCA1BCEB9F9B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/03/10 16:15, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Here's some suggestions , don't choose ATI video cards. ( No UNIX > Drivers .. ) >=20 > Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Vide= o > Card , > FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. Is this only true of more recent ATI devices, or is this only affecting laptops with ATI cards? I only ask because I'm running an ATI card for my desktop with no problems. If this is true for more recent ATI cards only, this puts a crimp in my plans for my "super"-computer. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigF8A90CF1E04BDCA1BCEB9F9B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLjnCrAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0NcoIAIRG+Gh9qdd7NhdUUBWF9zl+ Jr4RI+VDH9gyMAkQrITqZI0TepqUFYlBbCSfZkAqAJNZQHBU01B3Gn7Qpji9I6FY sDNNe7kLbG03SfZsOlB7iXiahunSs2rMgLMV0K4vcdrsBKKzIqREqxRGJpl12FWm zl+CwLii7dpoNJJvZxtgZiygCRtgF8pHU9Xe76QE3zEJG8km5h3W769gm6x3pG0Q kMUBGEbXMt2k62Ue5J7yP4qtodIdoMAAR1VxPdeRiSK/lWeP0fQVTprq/1W6eIOk URx8AZlfPHEJ0FELy+tgbqZ1MbscC7icxt1Fo7LaFERbqIr5cFYYAYbKKZXa9Hg= =fu19 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF8A90CF1E04BDCA1BCEB9F9B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 14:23:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9E7106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20418FC19 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:23:43 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAN7+jUt5LQMU/2dsb2JhbACbDHS+doJ8BIF8BIYW Received: from ppp121-45-3-20.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.3.20]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2010 00:53:42 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:53:40 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201002281742.03674.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003040053.40894.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:23:44 -0000 On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris wrote: > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is > > > woefully small: > > > > > > $ df -h > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > > /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% > > > /var/named/dev > > > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. > > > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change > > > the partition table? > > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you > > have another medium > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will > > store the images of > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then > > use FixIt console to > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) > > your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you > > have another hard disk device, you can use piped > > dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the > > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course > > you must have sliced the second device first. > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an > > openSUSE partition I had, > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time > > was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical > > device). The new disk became my boot disk. > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard > > disk device and at > > the same time be formated as ZFS. > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having > > ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first > > installed (of cource updated...) > > > > Elias > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. > Just make sure you use the following flags > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter too much). But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with questionable schemes. Malcolm Kay > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored > countless freebsd boxes. > > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks > > eg > > fdisk -B ad0 > bsdlabel -B ad0s1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 14:45:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBD91065673 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C678FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1218330bwz.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:45:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s8ygSmYOs/koesi5TFjGGx/O5pRxApVkaflpfEW2zys=; b=YXSP72k9VvtV6PnZ1U0sjmqLQNv2Ze5k/Dz3W2LIYKiym1ECrhVyeCGXjnOHG5ZNsg QHxYT5HTLf27SoYy9dBJ5G3PVlBlvBVa1K02vJobzHjL8wFPUyYVyR64nZ6M85cnRAK9 mHNwsX7cQqJCLTKG7QBbq26/lGclVH9o2H6GY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aK28yy/FSJ/lXzq4FtprfZ+U2gx8v3yu7WFWq/6iwWHFT+xm9G+6hTXv/UxpdVRkC1 YvSNmdPD7sUNq8+j/kuap0UBaJMo1xnVu/5MRmnLMu/PEuEgSivXIql3ygB11t9oHVuN tmCjokjaCivpseuPQW3+Z7gZHRFrT9IMitwtk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.255.25 with SMTP id c25mr6179080mui.80.1267627509589; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:45:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:45:09 +0100 Message-ID: <19e9a5dc1003030645s3e531d2er5957ac6713c6d867@mail.gmail.com> From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:45:16 -0000 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Aaron Lewis wr= ote: > On 3/3/2010 1:48 AM, Andreas Davour wrote: >> >> I am thinking of buying a new laptop, and want one which will work fine >> with FBSD. Anyone have any suggestions? >> >> It must have a connector for a external screen (i.e. a projector when >> doing presentations), wireless, ~15" screen, lots of memory, and optical >> unit, and preferable a long battery time (i.e. CPU speed is not that >> important). >> >> Webpages, own experiences or any other comparisons available? >> >> Please cc me if answering. >> >> /andreas >> > You May want to checkout this list: > > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ > > > Here's some suggestions , =A0don't choose ATI video cards. =A0( No UNIX D= rivers > .. ) Here=B4s another suggestion: don=B4t buy anything that has a Broadcom (BCM) ethernet and/or wireless card of any kind. You=B4ll find that your hardware has no support at all or that the existen support has some serious issues (specially regarding ACPI) My 2 cents > Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video > Card , > FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:17:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4FB1065680 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB078FC2A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so255893eya.9 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:17:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0jRz9EyIQG8clI+Hl+GXdclHrL3H6VKbmmgBYn0FBEU=; b=q2ezRVrjsqdSKt1SFBsdQGsNUEqEF3u7jRLl6qWp8JRkP6+qoPKvrBPox/n9Sc6iQV zglvyE0fr1cex/eW6NCrxFInTcD8QEZqDedRA6po7JSyyhEnRJElVwOTw8hBHz48WPfL dZ+B7dit9YW3EXlAdJuD1XPJ50dYUFd4F3Y3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LlOySECnG4duNDa0m7i9UnXuO4LC/cvh05buiVeDH/JvFTv7oAJNYalyoc7CUUIRp+ GXD+XViYRfqUCyu04tIzJVK6tsp0qq+Z+JpjDF+nX1NCAOfX8Ws7RWTwYn6gWhmTEJst x9PTUgmymRyHBa5OyDYMFpRCJbAjq5XyKoWhg= Received: by 10.213.42.70 with SMTP id r6mr5611143ebe.4.1267629439135; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.101? ([123.233.108.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm16345709eyg.24.2010.03.03.07.17.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:17:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8E7D83.7050004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:17:23 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Programmer In Training References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> <4B8E709E.1080202@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> In-Reply-To: <4B8E709E.1080202@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:17:25 -0000 Programmer In Training wrote: > On 03/03/10 16:15, Aaron Lewis wrote: > > >> Here's some suggestions , don't choose ATI video cards. ( No UNIX >> Drivers .. ) >> >> Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video >> Card , >> FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. >> > > Is this only true of more recent ATI devices, or is this only affecting > laptops with ATI cards? I only ask because I'm running an ATI card for > my desktop with no problems. If this is true for more recent ATI cards > only, this puts a crimp in my plans for my "super"-computer. > > Yeah , it's too new, the open-source driver will not support it. Well , that's because my Thinkpad has two video card , one ATI , one Intel integrated card. The Default OS is Vista , it supports switch between these two without changing BIOS settings. But i kick windows off my laptop , i'm using Linux with ATI card someway ;-) So in my BIOS , i disabled intel integrated video card , only use ATI. Then FBSD hangs after boot menu , can't load kernel ;- ( Strongly recommand you try out NVIDIA , at least it has FreeBSD and Solaris drivers ATI has a bad support for Linux/UNIX .. -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:30:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B464A1065672 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89978FC1E for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o23FUdvD037229; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:30:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o23FUde0037226; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:30:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:30:39 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Aaron Lewis In-Reply-To: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:30:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: Andreas Davour , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:30:41 -0000 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Aaron Lewis wrote: > On 3/3/2010 1:48 AM, Andreas Davour wrote: >> >> I am thinking of buying a new laptop, and want one which will work fine >> with FBSD. Anyone have any suggestions? >> >> It must have a connector for a external screen (i.e. a projector when doing >> presentations), wireless, ~15" screen, lots of memory, and optical unit, >> and preferable a long battery time (i.e. CPU speed is not that important). >> >> Webpages, own experiences or any other comparisons available? >> >> Please cc me if answering. >> >> /andreas >> > You May want to checkout this list: > > http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ > > > Here's some suggestions , don't choose ATI video cards. ( No UNIX Drivers > .. ) Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). xorg's open xf86-video-ati driver supports ATI video cards, including the Radeon Mobility cards in two notebooks I've tested. > Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video Card > FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. Are you saying the R400 has both integrated and discrete video cards? Lenovo's web site doesn't seem very oriented to telling potential customers details about their newer computers. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:34:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AB2106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77608FC1A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so1007015ewy.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:34:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ElkGlH5Qk4Nx+kFVOx95nkxaepAG7V1+Xlrmkdpfbb4=; b=DlaU0DoQ1di+Vyp8LYPemktyvJfcq0PsYPJegYBYirwwQqrkK4H6+JktFk4lkQB009 GxnZn1oFGYuJYLrox4+mEfAPfKFH281EzyyABf6jHOLfGAn5jdizl4IvDOfOQNAhTNpJ UdNBEzGwJcQZfkVQvQWszWR2YPwcLzI322s4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=coWeqdYeoONsJSh6+iXC09z8OVAOhSvFt05Y1yO4lFQ9rzQ8JXx/u+tcjL1DiyTNaU GB1ui0BJABTjvKUKjYnYFqciUR734oed+SlgMJeSxf5GY2m6PDhP4P4b7PBXzU3omTaf NlNP3dvnGUkkKYO5YmdEtwr8Whm+kU1rIFTLk= Received: by 10.213.104.69 with SMTP id n5mr2301726ebo.20.1267630474074; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.101? ([123.233.108.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm16398573eya.34.2010.03.03.07.34.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:34:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8E8190.1000905@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:34:40 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andreas Davour , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:34:42 -0000 > Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed > drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). > > Well , the opensource ati driver doesn't work for me , no matter linux or FreeBSD , it crashes I've read the documents , and found my ATI is on the support list , but it just don't work ;-( > Are you saying the R400 has both integrated and discrete video cards? > Lenovo's web site doesn't seem very oriented to telling potential > customers details about their newer computers. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA I bought it in china , you'll had to know R400 has lots of types , mine is 2784a18. Of course you can choose to buy an energy-save laptop , which has on independent Video Cards , Just an build-in intel Video Card , it's better for power saving someway. -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:37:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CC5106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9458FC18 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4B8E8226.F289E.18904 ; Authuser web; 3 Mar 2010 10:37:10 EST Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:36:52 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100303153652.GE43700@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , Aaron Lewis , Andreas Davour , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Aaron Lewis , Andreas Davour , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:37:13 -0000 According to Warren Block on Wed, 03/03/10 at 10:30: > > Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed > drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). > > xorg's open xf86-video-ati driver supports ATI video cards, including > the Radeon Mobility cards in two notebooks I've tested. > > >Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video > >Card FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. > > Are you saying the R400 has both integrated and discrete video cards? > Lenovo's web site doesn't seem very oriented to telling potential > customers details about their newer computers. I think yes. At least in my case. I have a T500 and it came with both integrated Intel video plus an additional ATI mini-card. I don't recall if there was an Nvidia video choice. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:40:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EB0106566C for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE5A8FC17 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so864640wwb.13 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:40:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9nAht/ysUJc9REQwy4Nk3Z5MN2kPM9PnHMPjPFQvzKU=; b=YmLEKWK4yjK9CiPgkGcOCac1xGAp8mWWhJlwG15Yfomd/gBRHlH/7TZJe6o2ndMwcP nfO4qbHUWHitRjh7JhyoZrzmiJ8TSiOIMpxIXI69iGbYTcTFLlcjtHzA+RmvLCYlRlGX Q4TteW/a+Zn147PLbgnp1UaMEYmIq6PANAMco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MuTNmy1ZIzQPPp/8RM/XLtkfC7a/sQhYscqe22dDnfHX2lvsoB5R36hOVVG3iG/PnY tRvvvpmG4FuDx1Bel2WG32CzWk6LTJUnaf00kGA8F77KWuou/jN7sCVkQE7+8JykPs0B +Z00HjO5kl1hd+QdUQDhKExgJm3i+zHqAnZEA= Received: by 10.216.172.70 with SMTP id s48mr673796wel.114.1267630852119; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([123.233.108.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm2695818eyx.10.2010.03.03.07.40.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:40:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8E830B.2000708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:40:59 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:40:58 -0000 [root@Meilk /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/AARON]# make CC='cc' make -f ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile MAKESRCPATH=../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/AARON cc -O2 -pipe -march=i686 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse -O3 -nostdinc -I/usr/include -I. -I../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -Wno-pointer-sign -c ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c:1: warning: SSE instruction set disabled, using 387 arithmetics *** Error code 1 It's interesting something can work with SSE instruction , while some are not , Warnings are treated as errors , if we can safely disable it in some specific occasions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:50:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29248106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664AA8FC25 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o23Fo6ib037308; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o23Fo6YB037305; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Aaron Lewis In-Reply-To: <4B8E7D83.7050004@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> <4B8E709E.1080202@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <4B8E7D83.7050004@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:50:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:50:08 -0000 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Programmer In Training wrote: >> On 03/03/10 16:15, Aaron Lewis wrote: >> >> >>> Here's some suggestions , don't choose ATI video cards. ( No UNIX >>> Drivers .. ) >>> >>> Well , i'm on ThinkPad R400 , ATI Mobile HD 3400 and an integrated Video >>> Card , >>> FBSD doesn't boot when i switched to ATI Video card. >>> >> >> Is this only true of more recent ATI devices, or is this only affecting >> laptops with ATI cards? I only ask because I'm running an ATI card for >> my desktop with no problems. If this is true for more recent ATI cards >> only, this puts a crimp in my plans for my "super"-computer. >> >> > Yeah , it's too new, the open-source driver will not support it. > > Well , that's because my Thinkpad has two video card , one ATI , one Intel > integrated card. > The Default OS is Vista , it supports switch between these two without > changing BIOS settings. > But i kick windows off my laptop , i'm using Linux with ATI card someway ;-) > So in my BIOS , i disabled intel integrated video card , only use ATI. > Then FBSD hangs after boot menu , can't load kernel ;- ( > > Strongly recommand you try out NVIDIA , at least it has FreeBSD and Solaris > drivers Closed binary drivers only. Which is adequate if they support the version and arch of operating system you plan to run, and you trust the vendor to supply updated drivers for later versions of the OS. > ATI has a bad support for Linux/UNIX .. I disagree. ATI has released programming information for their boards; nVidia has not. Which is why there's a mostly-functional open-source driver with 2D and 3D acceleration for ATI, ...and nouveau for nVidia. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 15:59:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AA9106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bas@kompasmedia.nl) Received: from mailhost.tue.nl (mailhost.tue.nl [131.155.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0128FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D9273024 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:39:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Received: from mailhost.tue.nl ([131.155.2.19]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tsGjrsgFxJLy for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:39:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [131.155.146.116] (KC15319.diensten.tue.nl [131.155.146.116]) by mailhost.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D751973010 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:39:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8E82B6.9020607@kompasmedia.nl> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:39:34 +0100 From: "Bas v.d. Wiel" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> <4B8E8190.1000905@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8E8190.1000905@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:59:04 -0000 Aaron Lewis wrote: > >> Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed >> drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). >> >> > Well , the opensource ati driver doesn't work for me , no matter linux > or FreeBSD , it crashes > I've read the documents , and found my ATI is on the support list , > but it just don't work ;-( > >> Are you saying the R400 has both integrated and discrete video cards? >> Lenovo's web site doesn't seem very oriented to telling potential >> customers details about their newer computers. >> >> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > I bought it in china , you'll had to know R400 has lots of types , > mine is 2784a18. > Of course you can choose to buy an energy-save laptop , which has on > independent Video Cards , > Just an build-in intel Video Card , it's better for power saving someway. > It's very strange that your machine should crash so early in its boot process. I don't own any ATI hardware so I'm not entirely sure on this, but my impression is that booting into the console should work with just about any kind of video hardware. Does Windows actually work with the ATI card? I'm beginning to suspect broken hardware here.. Bas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 16:14:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590DE1065677 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8547C8FC3F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so190560fxm.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k7Xhcr/VuM1zGtcCPH/0z1/PGTD6rm9/e54oOc/aE28=; b=vZQZolJKOOLn4SO4KFVYLMIHfaDAsxg2P7IH8IKD6uu0GAaUT8OOgKdX28aNRfjseK jE5LaUcticODD+cU/z8UAQF86oddtvA8/bWI1CbjAituc4eaG9t8a8d1RrPHCP1k4ErF 6BgLRZbWKiD9vXESBFvzDSwBEUXHbcYhUrclY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=d93116qtg0vedZDfZDWNBp42OVmxv6v//zihlZa+n1uFDt0fIgDNSP1zywymasZ0XX G1XJqJZNsYxrh6dym0S66FL5NVQArQ6WNkvOhAEMK377HvbDBaVbE4q7/sL/xlAYsaSS A5z7Wal/dG2JF1Si/n/cmBkcKBB/Ptskt0jig= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.188.145 with SMTP id p17mr815970hbh.194.1267632892189; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003040053.40894.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201002281742.03674.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> <201003040053.40894.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:14:51 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Malcolm Kay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:14:59 -0000 On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris > wrote: > > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to > > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is > > > > woefully small: > > > > > > > > $ df -h > > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > > > /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% > > > > /var/named/dev > > > > > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a > > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. > > > > > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change > > > > the partition table? > > > > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you > > > have another medium > > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will > > > store the images of > > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then > > > use FixIt console to > > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) > > > your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you > > > have another hard disk device, you can use piped > > > dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the > > > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course > > > you must have sliced the second device first. > > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an > > > openSUSE partition I had, > > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time > > > was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical > > > device). The new disk became my boot disk. > > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard > > > disk device and at > > > the same time be formated as ZFS. > > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having > > > ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first > > > installed (of cource updated...) > > > > > > Elias > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. > > Just make sure you use the following flags > > > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids > > > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK if > you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation as doing > backups with tar. These schemes also alter the access times on > files (which I guess doesn't usually matter too much). > > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and manages > snapshots for you, so why mess about with questionable schemes. > > I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode. Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are intact. I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files. The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we can do incremental forever, as well which is much more efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps. > Malcolm Kay > > > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored > > countless freebsd boxes. > > > > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks > > > > eg > > > > fdisk -B ad0 > > bsdlabel -B ad0s1 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 16:22:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F6A106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A76E8FC22 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o23GMX5v047090 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:22:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003031622.o23GMX5v047090@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:22:33 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Remote Building of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:22:42 -0000 I am beginning to wonder if there is something different about the way mfsbsd boots since it actually extracts itself in to memory upon boot. I looked at bootloader.conf once again and created a new boot.config file. The system does definitely see the file because it echos the commands. The boot process breaks down immediately as if what is on /dev/ad0s1b is not seen as a boot sector. Here is a screen capture from the system so you can see both the boot.config file and the system's response. þÿ/boot.config: -P verbose_loading="YES" # Set to YES for verbose loader output autoboot_delay="-1" # Delay in seconds before autobooting, # set to -1 if you don't want user to be # allowed to interrupt autoboot process and comconsole_speed="9600" # Set the current serial console speed console="vidconsole,comconsole" # A comma separated list of console(s) currdev="disk1s1b" # Set the current device root_disk_unit="0" # Force the root disk unit number rootdev="disk1s1b" # Set the root filesystem System Response FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)to boot: 'And there we die. There is a valid boot sector at Default: 0:ad(0,a) but there is also now valid boot code at 0:ad(0,b) which is what I am trying to force with boot.config. If one does fdisk on a partition that has had mfsboot.img sprayed on it, fdisk shows the first 3 partitions as being unused while Partition 4 has a type of 165 or standard FreeBSD. I think I am calling the bootloader wrong since the very same mfsboot image works properly when applied to /dev/ad0. The only difference is that one now has the same partition configuration on /dev/ad0 instead of ad0s1b Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 17:09:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D2C106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18FA8FC16 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17EBEB487C; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:09:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED818160CDF; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:09:30 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uxvkA9+4NmXv; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:09:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (188.4.69.142.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [188.4.69.142]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57F1160CDD; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:09:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o23H9Sh4042146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:09:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o23H9QeA042143; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:09:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: keramida@freebsd.org (Giorgos Keramidas) To: Dan Naumov References: Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:09:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dan Naumov's message of "Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:26:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87fx4hfi2h.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:09:32 -0000 On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:26:20 +0200, Dan Naumov wrote: >>See the section "3.17.14 Intel 386 and AMD x86-64 Options" in the gcc >>Info manual. It contains a full list of the supported CPU-TYPE values >>for the -mtune=CPU-TYPE option. The -march=CPU-TYPE option accepts the >>same CPU types: >> >> `-march=CPU-TYPE' >> Generate instructions for the machine type CPU-TYPE. The >> choices for CPU-TYPE are the same as for `-mtune'. Moreover, >> specifying `-march=CPU-TYPE' implies `-mtune=CPU-TYPE'. > > Hello > Out of curiosity, what is the optimal "-march=" value to use for the > new Atom D510 CPU: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43098 ? I'm not sure. 'nocona' seems a pretty close match: _nocona_ Improved version of Intel Pentium4 CPU with 64-bit extensions, MMX, SSE, SSE2 and SSE3 instruction set support. Without actually trying -march=nocona on one of these I can't tell for sure if it is 'optimal' or not though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 17:54:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7AA106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F51A8FC21 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [96.224.35.192]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KYP00IJLTMGMNN0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:54:18 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <4B8E9435.5020804@mac.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:54:13 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Aaron Lewis References: <4B8A63D5.90104@gmail.com> <4B8E830B.2000708@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <4B8E830B.2000708@gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiler Flags problem with core2 CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:54:39 -0000 Aaron Lewis wrote: > [root@Meilk /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/AARON]# make > CC='cc' make -f ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile > MAKESRCPATH=../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/AARON > cc -O2 -pipe -march=i686 -ffast-math -mfpmath=sse -O3 [ ... ] > cc1: warnings being treated as errors > ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c:1: warning: SSE instruction set > disabled, using 387 arithmetics > *** Error code 1 > > > It's interesting something can work with SSE instruction , while some > are not , Warnings are treated as errors , if we can safely disable it in some > specific occasions. Dude, the FreeBSD kernel doesn't use floating point, MMX, or SSE. See sys/conf/kern.mk: # [ ... ] Explicitly prohibit the use of SSE and other SIMD # operations inside the kernel itself. These operations are exclusively # reserved for user applications. # .if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "i386" && ${CC} != "icc" CFLAGS+= -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 \ -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 INLINE_LIMIT?= 8000 .endif Trying to override the default compiler flags to force it to use SSE is simply not going to work. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 18:58:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFB3106566C for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out10.libero.it (cp-out10.libero.it [212.52.84.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95298FC0A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.46.88) by cp-out10.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4B73D5C0014EB4E6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:58:45 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o23IwdIg048278 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:58:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4B8EB15F.2010203@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:58:39 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100303 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SATA regression with 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:58:47 -0000 Hello. I've got a box with a VIA VT8251 chipset and a single SATA HD, running 6.3/i386. I'm trying to upgrade it to 7.2, but, when booting with the new kernel, it won't detect any HD. In my BIOS I can set the controller to SATA, RAID or AHCI, but that doesn't matter. Here's what I see when booting 6.3: atapci0: port 0xe880-0xe887,0xe800-0xe803,0xe480-0xe487,0xe400-0xe403,0xe080-0xe08f mem 0xfebfec00-0xfebfefff irq 21 at device 15.0 on pci0 atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 4 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 ata4: on atapci0 ata5: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 ... ad4: 152627MB at ata2-master SATA300 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a On 7.2 the output is roughly the same (I couldn't save it), but it won't find ad4 and prompt me for a boot device (with none available). Here's an extract from "pciconf -lv": atapci0@pci0:15:0: class=0x010601 card=0x33491106 chip=0x33491106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT8251 VIA VT8251 AHCI RAID Controller' class = mass storage atapci1@pci0:15:1: class=0x01018a card=0x05711106 chip=0x05711106 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C Bus Master IDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA Please help. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 19:17:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857C4106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEBE8FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so1217154ewy.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:17:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=wYxXsIF+mwJ2TN+5Uvay8ND2LwTrJ6Fl/056zq4hdyM=; b=hkhTBbfiQnmUb3Dm8MbvmcHXIZHyi0HNOHo7O1yrOYFqBTDXE2lZmKcJ8M/POyFaR/ Ne06D0H4NNsndkPQ1IL7DYOQGWrcosomGKBp6YdD62vp+1e1OUd90Cy8yOC0OCrjWn6B TgmGVBZTnmhcgvJNur9xd8YAI/N7LRufbpe8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=jfy+CbiDXPZ1RYYQ8fe9qUsVPkdQOeOd6u9/1QqTqa6tESIe8HPt6YAdOkzeOBIuWg sU2QKs0bnl1js91pNCZVyKDbfqIkXTNFJhzqtHdaurguyJGGih+R/wlz0kCd1P7cbcHz a7m0vRKQUJhuo213JNjQZSfmqo4ROBXcTpQ8A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.97.4 with SMTP id j4mr548372ebn.9.1267643859915; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:17:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ross Cameron Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:17:19 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05253cd3c2a2f3a5 Message-ID: <35f70db11003031117v5f2dd34ah62d4722b58bfb135@mail.gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: 802.11QinQ support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:17:46 -0000 Hi there all Does anyone know off hand if FreeBSD 8.0 or -CURRENT supports 802.1QinQ aka netsted VLans? If so, how do I configure it as I've tried the usual "ifconfig vlan? create" and tried stipulating that the secondary VLan's parent interface it the primary VLan interface. But this doesn't seem to work :( Regards,... Ross Cameron -- "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 19:31:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B64106566C for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA698FC1D for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so583635pvg.13 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:31:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iSUfLnDdP4v5SgC6FS4T+v80eSPI+kKusu+MnWg42iw=; b=YGX+zNma4u84vr4V0YHSQ2x4AnLp7NEwYdRRrVAFDhGaagkPQFRRdKlPb8Cc5h2nLt cdMyqwwTQ/JxOzpUCztSX6BCvcZ9zEDLDy84qUiAncdkakDQZNgCo7Okardi4hBWr5bz YKAsmDjwIawLJsI02OpCITd1XYsrVIhDIyiB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OtziGXdddf8rbIyqjzPvtIHc46Kd6FcM7KLd0tTMQh43+xgjKuHR5A8rIu6pQwGQzW 0/De6MeBrnD1XVlpo1DwAJBp7u6CUl9kNbpy3JJSGITbgLiLb8ahXz3OBUhkfEH5Eq/9 jeNuZmyBUvXcvk3yGCaWDTeoWXGTwQ9Q2+aPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.151.5 with SMTP id y5mr792026wfd.70.1267644669612; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:31:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <35f70db11003031117v5f2dd34ah62d4722b58bfb135@mail.gmail.com> References: <35f70db11003031117v5f2dd34ah62d4722b58bfb135@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:31:09 -0600 Message-ID: <11167f521003031131q36687a70hb493720b087fabe3@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 802.11QinQ support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:31:14 -0000 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Ross Cameron wrote: > Hi there all > > Does anyone know off hand if FreeBSD 8.0 or -CURRENT supports > 802.1QinQ aka netsted VLans? I don't believe FreeBSD supports QinQ yet, however it apparently has always been possible to do nested vlans with netgraph. My trouble with netgraph has always been that there was never a sufficient amount of examples on the web to be able to do anything useful with it. Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 20:15:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04A8106564A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@fstaals.net) Received: from edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl (edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl [88.159.1.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE958FC1F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FStaals.net (unknown [88.159.208.104]) by edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CF3121E90; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:15:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from FStaals.net (localhost.FStaals.LAN [127.0.0.1]) by filter.fstaals.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EDB98141; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:19:27 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on FStaals.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, FH_DATE_PAST_20XX,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from Rena.FStaals.LAN (localhost.FStaals.LAN [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: frank) by FStaals.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6496E98140; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:19:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8EC348.6000001@fstaals.net> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:15:04 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100206 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Davour References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:15:47 -0000 On 03/03/10 14:48, Andreas Davour wrote: > > I am thinking of buying a new laptop, and want one which will work > fine with FBSD. Anyone have any suggestions? > > It must have a connector for a external screen (i.e. a projector when > doing presentations), wireless, ~15" screen, lots of memory, and > optical unit, and preferable a long battery time (i.e. CPU speed is > not that important). > > Webpages, own experiences or any other comparisons available? > > Please cc me if answering. > > /andreas > I am running FreeBSD (8-STABLE) on a Dell Latitude D630, and I'm very content with it. The D630 version has a 14.1" display, but I believe there is also a 15" version (which was called D830 if I recall correctly). Out of the box support for wireless (wpi) , wired (bge) , cpu-throtteling (cpufreq), audio (snd_hda) and the display-dimming functionality. When I bought it battery lifetime was over 6 hours (with a 9 cell battery) when just using browser/e-mail client/ word-processor kind of applications. Now (I have this machine about 2.5 years now) it's still about 3 hours, and I use it every day for at least 3 or 4 hours. Suspend/Resume almost works; meaning it does actually suspend and resume, unfortunately both wired and wireless are dead after resuming. Since I never use a external monitor I do not know if that works correctly or not. My version has an intel card but it is also possible to obtain a laptop with a nvidia GPU. For the external monitor stuff I guess the best bet would be an nvidia card. Anyway: the conclusion is that it may be a good idea to take a look at Dell's range of laptops. Good luck & Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 21:20:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374381065674 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naeem_jarral@yahoo.com) Received: from web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECA7C8FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20627 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2010 21:20:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267651203; bh=JBdaj7G17ALXCDwdT6rUCeqnT/tYfi8BAwvvoE+qhGc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iFnhOT9PGpskyNavx1606SQZ0HRFex2KnoTf95zw4Gw7XUiagK+EMU5/TM8Gxwcd+WVCmUOro3fFCIKTjZZtIjTjeMO4oIJB9LEiAYdeskn6MusNv3bW6Di0swhbjkaaTE8HA33l84HB8a52xD27fUqfXWg82cQDn+KrXdCWipU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IDmP/XrFOrrxJhobIMPmn65WrNmqLCuDYdgCqrP5wWnAsvpEAX0DLeXv5YjCYdYShn/i2xSkZb2ZoL+P22dHrSLmGqnzw0xcsx9agk8IzWOFHLJGLRk2nbslPLcPsODzGZZjL2qx3M67ytwpDYPp3KANsjgBZ2TZ+wuCK9V4lJU=; Message-ID: <424593.19020.qm@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: SCybSVMVM1lf_8EWNu1zvozEqumBsF_uO2zpc_gJFnakF88KXZiAyDh8JKp7ylIBKjxG9acrxCOp3CXqv5XB0X2kTQwr.iG0g76CXa0Pn7E1GxM9nt683XtHAcLAH.pbAXox2Wahi6FVCdmrT54jVQheVNEUpPJhJvxOsshy_yjLVYkb3uZoX76jUIe73x_yxTTKwz1g3ikXOVOHCRA.cX9t0sKH0SWjDA65qHQ5WuClvrMrErwTL075Dau.hW_EksJvIv2llYspEYlyKyHS8B.cuALg3i6w0u5IustY5ApFsr0eajt3lEXqwqPTLl9NmnHhym_3W71r3dAEYShFBQw- Received: from [192.55.55.37] by web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:20:03 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:20:03 -0800 (PST) From: Naeem Afzal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: starting kernel from non zero physical address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:20:08 -0000 Hi, I am trying to figure out best way to boot FreeBSD8 kernel when physical memory is not starting at zero address. Is using physfree address in hammer_time() argument is the one which sets start of physical memory address? Any input would be appreciated. thanks naeem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 21:26:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07430106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957FA8FC22 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so530218fxm.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:26:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=3XvQGeeqVjUkuXixywaNe/HlMSPfuj+BjGdsE05owvs=; b=vSnrfRDmL5JcQ7wDuG7tKaDgyi9ohBPzPsGM2Ig5T83hA/IxqF1r6dOxcMiRYdbcYn 2NCnJyO6M0P0YciuK8+GR69+Ad9xTCZEkqWuvh9s5P3Fr8Tls/GTXsmHRkDhdUruEl0n DksdLqJOsjiB2SepMV69uiZJ3smWRx/U1Sbok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dpSLOUE2dszkNu+By9TTKT7pQtsXIMXaiWIhNEhvl8NoD6oq9jyTPB4D1tUCRRBYI+ Ua6KfRj/CO7nhRDzbjEjk/JEfjUJryHlpzhWLJJbl4W/pALoGGhCM1Un/kQFyb+cV8YG vgUwFeJZQYmmLlTC+aFb/f53ZIFJF9Zppc+CE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.193.140 with SMTP id j12mr810372hbi.70.1267651611902; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:26:31 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: signal strength for wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:26:58 -0000 Does any of the output of ifconfig have to do with the signal strength of the network? If yes - which part? If no - how can I determine that? I looked in the ifconfig man page but could not find any information relating to this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 22:12:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D32106566B for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB928FC1A for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so579610fxm.3 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:12:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B/d2jU5RpeDZMlqImgBVAZq7dpUrKdaunP3dppyhYlI=; b=MGFswFmV6dents9isdqc7+6I2V2lMPW8dd7keLp3CKENB1HqwsQk1eN7s34sJD0S/z tJ3LIFM+nxQN3FEQEbcjl6mopryqijZvnKaX2rNJWMwRVtoMOp+xQEpxV6+151KvBXRc octnl9uLh3TUHCKVXTIJs3eNur887NppMaf6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KDErmTj4fzpVpC2Qe6tpkDkkTQF6qRctkMhy4uxE3DheOPOegclfrRWNLdo+UThxaJ bEqRVTol7OzhEQoZ7wQh9Jtx8OuRCfI8bltQkFqnqAHiHKGLDGIxb/8yMdiLPyLBw9KE 6x8OYV2DjbYYLeNSROqG6rUG94bn8UO01dNRM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.160.84 with SMTP id b20mr800205hbd.103.1267654327116; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:12:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:12:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: Andreas Davour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:12:20 -0000 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Andreas Davour wrote: > > I am thinking of buying a new laptop, and want one which will work fine with > FBSD. Anyone have any suggestions? > > It must have a connector for a external screen (i.e. a projector when doing > presentations), wireless, ~15" screen, lots of memory, and optical unit, and > preferable a long battery time (i.e. CPU speed is not that important). > > Webpages, own experiences or any other comparisons available? > > Please cc me if answering. > > /andreas > > -- > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I use a lenovo thinkpad T500 running 8.0-STABLE, with xrandr i can set up external monitors in no time. The ATi card works very well, i get over 2000fps on glxgears but it does not have power management just yet, so it gets hot. 15.4" @ 1680x1050, 4GB DDR3, T9550 @ 2.66GHz hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x20e017aa chip=0x2a408086 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile Memory Controller Hub' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x20e217aa chip=0x2a418086 rev=0x07 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile PCI Express Graphics Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none0@pci0:0:3:0: class=0x078000 card=0x20e617aa chip=0x2a448086 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Intel Management Engine Interface (Mobile 4 Series Chipset)' class = simple comms none1@pci0:0:3:3: class=0x070002 card=0x20ec17aa chip=0x2a478086 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Active Management Technology - SOL (20EC17AA)' class = simple comms subclass = UART em0@pci0:0:25:0: class=0x020000 card=0x20ee17aa chip=0x10f58086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Intel 82567LM-2 Gigabit Network Connection (82567LM)' class = network subclass = ethernet uhci0@pci0:0:26:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x20f017aa chip=0x29378086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:26:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x20f017aa chip=0x29388086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:26:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x20f017aa chip=0x29398086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:26:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x20f117aa chip=0x293c8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB hdac0@pci0:0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x20f217aa chip=0x293e8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = HDA pcib2@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x20f317aa chip=0x29408086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 1' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:0:28:1: class=0x060400 card=0x20f317aa chip=0x29428086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 2' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib4@pci0:0:28:2: class=0x060400 card=0x20f317aa chip=0x29448086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 3' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib5@pci0:0:28:3: class=0x060400 card=0x20f317aa chip=0x29468086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 4' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib6@pci0:0:28:4: class=0x060400 card=0x20f317aa chip=0x29488086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 5' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci3@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x20f017aa chip=0x29348086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci4@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x20f017aa chip=0x29358086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci5@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x20f017aa chip=0x29368086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci1@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x20f117aa chip=0x293a8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib7@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x20f417aa chip=0x24488086 rev=0x93 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x20f517aa chip=0x29178086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA ahci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010601 card=0x20f817aa chip=0x29298086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) Mobile SATA AHCI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SATA none2@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x20f917aa chip=0x29308086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x211717aa chip=0x95911002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.' device = 'ATI RADEON MOBILITY HD 3650 (16331043)' class = display subclass = VGA iwn0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x42368086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = network none3@pci0:4:0:0: class=0x058000 card=0x44438086 chip=0x444e8086 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Intel TurboMemory (TurboMemory)' class = memory cbb0@pci0:21:0:0: class=0x060700 card=0x20c617aa chip=0x04761180 rev=0xba hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) (unknown)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus fwohci0@pci0:21:0:1: class=0x0c0010 card=0x20c717aa chip=0x08321180 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'IEEE 1394 (4 pin firewire) chip) (30CF103C)' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire sdhci0@pci0:21:0:2: class=0x080500 card=0x20c817aa chip=0x08221180 rev=0x21 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller (R5C832, R5C843)' class = base peripheral subclass = SD host controller none4@pci0:21:0:3: class=0x088000 card=0x20c917aa chip=0x08431180 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'Ricoh SD/MMC Host Controller (R5C853)' class = base peripheral none5@pci0:21:0:4: class=0x088000 card=0x20ca17aa chip=0x05921180 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'Ricoh Memory Stick Host Controller (13871043)' class = base peripheral none6@pci0:21:0:5: class=0x088000 card=0x20cb17aa chip=0x08521180 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'Ricoh xD-Picture Card Host Controller (01cf1028)' class = base peripheral Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 3 23:33:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274C1106568F for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ty-ml@eye-of-odin.com) Received: from smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E05038FC08 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27471 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2010 23:33:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (203.26.122.8) by smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.22) with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2010 23:33:27 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:03:18 +1030 From: Ty John (sand_man) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100304100318.6ad5724a@eye-of-odin.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:33:29 -0000 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:49:12 +0000 Thomas Lawrence wrote: > > Hello Guys and Gals, > Can you clear something up for me. > Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox > on Freebsd8. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Since there is no FreeBSD download from the VirtualBox website, my guess is no. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 00:06:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5AA1065672 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59278FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so385499qwh.7 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:06:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6+0frUl5qlGmlA1M2Mjjxyl8OIBFuPf5crSvkKHO2tw=; b=Ns/cOIbajyOYUubH91YIwDJtoYCimMmbb+yHIPcNJOfOBuA8vBhCh5c1ChHoKGZse8 vf6CSyTooNgiXnpebavufFRssdWb7PwXyUm0dC/g42NpYHkF6j3HnXk5eYsNuZ0MgUSr fJHqyP3oz33xNaYyUhUrkUVAqpW5UK/hKQr2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sZ169cC3ZA5UWx1nYSZnXe6C7z6kJCCr9Cdpy+gmeTN77rvevNEmwInNPkKcHwGduC FHVh4qmzE4xEH5ySB1557lPiHH5RJ6h3FKU0Kc5UciXr64h6cyUf72Ob6mBkgCpvNlRf qmPaJXF6mFtrIswYyaTKXEVWHgWgfuZRpP67g= Received: by 10.229.222.10 with SMTP id ie10mr736161qcb.36.1267661175137; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [119.162.111.103] ([119.162.111.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm2049qyk.3.2010.03.03.16.06.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8EF97D.1080204@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:06:21 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bas v.d. Wiel" References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> <4B8E8190.1000905@gmail.com> <4B8E82B6.9020607@kompasmedia.nl> In-Reply-To: <4B8E82B6.9020607@kompasmedia.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:06:21 -0000 Bas v.d. Wiel wrote: > Aaron Lewis wrote: >> >>> Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed >>> drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). >>> >>> >> Well , the opensource ati driver doesn't work for me , no matter >> linux or FreeBSD , it crashes >> I've read the documents , and found my ATI is on the support list , >> but it just don't work ;-( >> >>> Are you saying the R400 has both integrated and discrete video >>> cards? Lenovo's web site doesn't seem very oriented to telling >>> potential customers details about their newer computers. >>> >>> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >> I bought it in china , you'll had to know R400 has lots of types , >> mine is 2784a18. >> Of course you can choose to buy an energy-save laptop , which has on >> independent Video Cards , >> Just an build-in intel Video Card , it's better for power saving >> someway. >> > It's very strange that your machine should crash so early in its boot > process. I don't own any ATI hardware so I'm not entirely sure on > this, but my impression is that booting into the console should work > with just about any kind of video hardware. Does Windows actually work > with the ATI card? I'm beginning to suspect broken hardware here.. > > Bas > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Yeah , when i enable "Switchable Video Card" in BIOS , my Linux won't start X11 , fglrx driver doesn't allow me to do so , it tell me directly to disable this feature , and must turn to "Discrete Card" Mode. And if i do so , after boot menu , right after the progress bar , ( not the boot loader ) i don't know how to describe this , it just hangs at prompt when i press enter. I think it's because my ATI Video Card is kind of special , it has "Switchable Video Card" ability , some new features , even ATI official linux driver can't really handle this , and for BSD , it even don't boot. -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 00:48:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1C31065673 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D5A8FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o240m8mJ080654; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:48:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:48:08 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Thomas Lawrence In-Reply-To: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:48:48 -0000 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Thomas Lawrence wrote: > Hello Guys and Gals, > Can you clear something up for me. > Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox on > Freebsd8. Glen Barber posted this... http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg217302.html ...last summer. I have not tried it, just saying it's there. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 01:47:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C151065766 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ty-ml@eye-of-odin.com) Received: from smtpauth18.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth18.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7C0F8FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 536 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2010 01:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (203.26.122.8) by smtpauth18.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.31) with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2010 01:46:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:16:49 +1030 From: Ty John (sand_man) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100304121649.4686c6f5@eye-of-odin.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:47:00 -0000 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:48:08 -0500 (EST) Chris Hill wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Thomas Lawrence wrote: > > > Hello Guys and Gals, > > Can you clear something up for me. > > Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox > > on Freebsd8. > > Glen Barber posted this... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg217302.html > > ...last summer. I have not tried it, just saying it's there. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > But is that the PUEL version? Or just a binary of the OSE version? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 01:54:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B4B106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f191.google.com (mail-yx0-f191.google.com [209.85.210.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B9C8FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe29 with SMTP id 29so1085544yxe.7 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:53:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=NQ+MGbqBXT/3XX57T6H24pe6waDaxXz2n/i+k4Y9gTs=; b=ZVbvYzrTA9Stbpy/Day4k8DE1oYtnJFER0RTmyvf3r4pAYVHe+Urq2jdm/GiH0OwGK 486HhAr9v3PI2kWPYySRt6UBOBT0ZYVjlJtdsjTIwIcqSMXYYhoEAPt+R7cvhViNNA8v xHDhI/dLmcG4mmAzBSa0tPUA3OiwHkfjmxvww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=O5lPwwnLAk66LJe+SyOPY89Tp0MdWTiq0x9SDhbiVHGas8mj5AgIdeJ0JSbT9TjTN8 1EDdHpPr1a+8HV7AnZ14EdfYLCzr23l9fzGD8WZrkBHDLSgi+JTdCxz/DuB7v0G7ny5m X/1AXyOzp/05bSMchqLfqisF+EjNY13J3uTo8= Received: by 10.101.172.3 with SMTP id z3mr2403940ano.192.1267667632850; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cx9sm103795ibb.13.2010.03.03.17.53.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:53:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:50:32 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20100304015032.GA21561@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Thomas Lawrence , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:54:04 -0000 Hi, Chris Hill wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Thomas Lawrence wrote: > > > Hello Guys and Gals, > > Can you clear something up for me. > > Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox on > > Freebsd8. > > Glen Barber posted this... > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg217302.html > > ...last summer. I have not tried it, just saying it's there. > It is a (horribly outdated) pkg_add(1) installer. I haven't had a chance to update it yet; hopefully this weekend now that my attention has been drawn to it. For the record, it is not the closed-source version. It is emulators/virtualbox before it was repocopied to emulators/virtualbox-ose-*. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 02:06:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9232106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4CE8FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:06:51 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPOejkt5LQMU/2dsb2JhbACbEHS2fIJ8BIF8BIYW Received: from ppp121-45-3-20.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.3.20]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2010 12:21:31 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: krad Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:21:30 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201003040053.40894.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003041221.30263.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:06:52 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote: > On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: > > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris > > > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > > > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to > > > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is > > > > > woefully small: > > > > > > > > > > $ df -h > > > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted > > > > > on /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > > > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% > > > > > /var/named/dev > > > > > > > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a > > > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. > > > > > > > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and > > > > > change the partition table? > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you > > > > have another medium > > > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will > > > > store the images of > > > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can > > > > then use FixIt console to > > > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then > > > > restore(8) your images in the newly sliced hard disk. > > > > Actually, if you have another hard disk device, you can > > > > use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one > > > > disk to the other and make the second one your bootable > > > > disk. Of course you must have sliced the second device > > > > first. > > > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an > > > > openSUSE partition I had, > > > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second > > > > time was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk > > > > (physical device). The new disk became my boot disk. > > > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger > > > > hard disk device and at > > > > the same time be formated as ZFS. > > > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, > > > > having ZFS and the operating system is the same as that > > > > I first installed (of cource updated...) > > > > > > > > Elias > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi > > > >ons To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than > > > dump. Just make sure you use the following flags > > > > > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids > > > > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK > > if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation > > as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the > > access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter > > too much). > > > > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and > > manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with > > questionable schemes. > > I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in > this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode. I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem. > > Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are > intact. I did not mention modification times but access times which I admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for any utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only exception I know of. > > I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very > effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small > numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files. > I've not found this too difficult even when working with compressed dumps. > The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we > can do incremental forever, as well which is much more > efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps. Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem. For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the effectiveness. For example when you are asked to recover the original of a file that was changed before the lastest backup. Many of us think it desirable to regularly archive complete backups. But each to his own; backup methods and strategies have always been something of a controverial issues. > > > Malcolm Kay > > > > > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored > > > countless freebsd boxes. > > > > > > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot > > > blocks > > > > > > eg > > > > > > fdisk -B ad0 > > > bsdlabel -B ad0s1 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-question > > >s To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 02:57:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC191065673 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1385A8FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:57:07 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAIiwjkt5LQMU/2dsb2JhbACbEXS2aYJ8BIF8BIYW Received: from ppp121-45-3-20.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.3.20]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2010 13:27:05 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:27:03 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201002281742.03674.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003041327.03728.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: krad , Elias Chrysocheris Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:57:08 -0000 On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris wrote: > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is > > > woefully small: > > > > > > $ df -h > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > > /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% > > > /var/named/dev > > > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. > > > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and change > > > the partition table? > > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you > > have another medium > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will > > store the images of > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can then > > use FixIt console to > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then restore(8) > > your images in the newly sliced hard disk. Actually, if you > > have another hard disk device, you can use piped > > dump/restore to copy the whole system from one disk to the > > other and make the second one your bootable disk. Of course > > you must have sliced the second device first. > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an > > openSUSE partition I had, > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second time > > was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk (physical > > device). The new disk became my boot disk. > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger hard > > disk device and at > > the same time be formated as ZFS. > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, having > > ZFS and the operating system is the same as that I first > > installed (of cource updated...) > > > > Elias > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than dump. > Just make sure you use the following flags > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids To preserve extended flags set with chflags you also need --fileflags and the fileflags patch enabled on installing rsync. For example look at: #ls -lo /var and note flag on empty. Malcolm Kay > > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored > countless freebsd boxes. > > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot blocks > > eg > > fdisk -B ad0 > bsdlabel -B ad0s1 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 03:00:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D77D1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 03:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A598FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 03:00:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 26687807 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:00:18 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:00:15 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:00:15 -0600 Thread-Topic: gpart command fails sporadically Thread-Index: Acq7RtBLxkAxJ0fdQGGRMy7yN2knJw== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A5C18@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gpart command fails sporadically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:00:17 -0000 We've seen this error sporadically when using the gpart command: gpart: Cannot get GEOM tree: Cannot allocate memory What would cause this? It does not happen often but I wouldn't think we sho= uld never see it, not with a simple "gpart show" command. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 04:33:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D86106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 04:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C718FC1D for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 04:33:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.45 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht03.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.45] (HELO HT03.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 26701479 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:33:18 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by HT03.exg5.exghost.com ([10.242.228.75]) with mapi; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:33:16 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:33:14 -0600 Thread-Topic: fsck cannot determine fstype automatically Thread-Index: Acq7UtZjCHd+QmfKQG6VG1ApAMC33Q== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A5C31@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: fsck cannot determine fstype automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:33:18 -0000 We use gpart to create GPT style partitions. For example: # gpart show ad4 =3D> 34 490234685 ad4 GPT (234G) 34 16 1 freebsd-boot (8.0K) 50 67108864 2 freebsd-swap (32G) 67108914 67108864 3 freebsd-swap (32G) 134217778 10485760 4 freebsd-ufs (5.0G) 144703538 25165824 5 freebsd-ufs (12G) 169869362 11719060 6 freebsd (5.6G) 181588422 200620089 7 freebsd-ufs (96G) 382208511 108026208 8 freebsd-ufs (52G) In this case, partitions 3, 4, and 5 are mirrored with equivalent partition= s on another drive and these appear to be working fine. Partitions 7 and 8 = are strictly data partitions and not mirrored. When I try to run fsck again= st them, I get this: # fsck /dev/ad4p4 =20 fsck: Could not determine filesystem type I have to specify the file system type explicitly: # fsck -t ufs /dev/ad4p7 ** /dev/ad4p7 (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on /v0 ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 39 files, 553 used, 48573784 free (24 frags, 6071720 blocks, 0.0% fragmenta= tion) Why do I have to specify the fstype explicitly? I have a similar system con= figured with fdisk/bsdlabel and the fsck command doesn't have any problems = with determining the fstype. Is there something we need to do to allow the = fstype of GPT partitions to be automatically determined by fsck? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 04:52:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01E8106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 04:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f191.google.com (mail-yx0-f191.google.com [209.85.210.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6EA8FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 04:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe29 with SMTP id 29so1156394yxe.7 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:51:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B/8LObjRsWdV38j0EbjwoiQ/FCKvQkzv/gLj5VDytKc=; b=pmpMDzD9nfInnodWjaXGbIzJ5eRkwkfr2mBxs0x6pjHWsyu4vmoNlV932B35YGqzP9 dsIqHHGVX+6M85pwsEKGeykkZpATTXnZ5oTIuC2oeCdWkW7pQSylyXkirhBGKHxub7kZ 93tx9y/Qc7UTqhI/cltIPzwDlF/rqOIm29q2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=v29ysfspne6Gy7kxGdUZd4uUNN8qCla2tcZFvG2RGaLUr6tei5Q0FuztieHupwlK7L 1Za9pqjk+3UWDqnupQJ0r3LWtZNU/5LOAaGWlTh4LvXkpS9muK7pK+bmycUDvXy0QHqk kK6XqP2zfPXSlgesuIzj4WA/BTHCoJsBjFECE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.127.18 with SMTP id z18mr2504589agc.52.1267678303364; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:51:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: plukawski@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:52:00 -0000 On 3 March 2010 07:33, Piotr Lukawski wrote: > Dears, > I need to install Freebsd 8.0 using floppy and then ftp, but there are no > floppy images in > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/mentioned > in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html > I tried so install Freebsd 7 using availiable floppy (successful) and update > it to 8.0 (after 3 days finally error and now now whole /usr directory so I > am stacked). > Could you please produce install floppy images for Freebsd 8.0? Please > please please. I have no power to do the install of 7, upgrade and fail > again :-( > Thanks in adavance. > Piotr Have you tried installing 8.0-RELEASE from your 7.x floppies? I have heard rumour that it is possible by just changing the release name under "View/Set Various Installation Options". -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 07:43:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D44A106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmember@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352628FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so1072778vws.13 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:43:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2MBmNqzKc/N90rRQLFssZraG8WUzz//zyRy0WsXaAlY=; b=hMwueQvyxZ5VIQodHp04ZS1P1xOJtop4CRQbz0gkkvT0FpsTIS517U3mWXs5E53ucw pXTo5XMzGZG2ioUP2Y8Fh+EnvWz0dGSDFvTDEMmdtT5uLg5QEVdCOw5kwOSPWUkSPOf6 GbGRs/8Hh9fDcpcWKpxzCPWEwZ2bvlURTOoiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Zzt7OLAZsBQzkuBQMb0flW+UgbMSONim0p6INIbFh2GR0XOlVo3FKP05Tit6GHqGi4 kQpYgVmSXb6gF4F4MJOyn0RE+nKsg7QAze6pW0wYrMs1tgCiqoY3DDM66JheuDn7VcaL jk9VUm5KFG648Yt9A/f6RYYgJRGmRbPx7dhOM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.82.140 with SMTP id b12mr5489040qal.48.1267688595513; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:43:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2c16b4711002240651q5ac2128fl19010e8bec39bfd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c16b4711002240651q5ac2128fl19010e8bec39bfd9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <2c16b4711003032343r1d68f88al733f71bbc7fdb597@mail.gmail.com> From: don Juan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: install.cfg for Documentation Installation Menu on 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:43:21 -0000 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:51 PM, don Juan wrote: > Hi, > > What come up with 8.0-RELEASE is the new FreeBSD > Documentation Installation Menu in sysinstall. I would like to know > what command for install.cfg to configure my installation with, say, > English Documentation. > > i've found this question already posted to this forum but it's still > unanswered. > > Thanks! > Please? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 08:30:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D263106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B228FC2F for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so1658779pwj.13 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:30:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Uw1jR6mDnhTNLwV219hoKdRv6CsqgLYsToc9Eo2oLcI=; b=KCg1CAa1MB2fLA8ZGkIvgbLsmyXiWnlHRIORQewgKtKBOh+pLprq+fDfDZkmT3YENR GqrXhBIylf1+wPf7vwZ9Z77+4iKF/tExW67g9im2BwOceKtMLYjSoswbgsS29sPfmKzA 2MR8XcrSknSx+6NnVyK4Jje8ZYggzcul3I5CE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=C4BILN+WGySURmxCJs7CUKTaUGiTeG8PauVc97OOpH/Q6wMyVJFnUbO7GZf435lSsj l/lPmi6rJL3fsccrpVgtZprUKmlghYNkrccGt+vOBxyrPdepmnahRUbSKj83jqeptVy/ 6tCBxrlS2RK08Q8gej4OHHiBlZ7eWdyXqJ82U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.250.13 with SMTP id x13mr1981592wfh.224.1267691406001; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:30:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:30:13 -0000 Installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.0, xorg, configured xorg for my screen, installed xdm. After reboot I see a graphical login window. When entering username and password, it seems to accept it, but immediatly present the graphical login window again. (In console mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) I can login at the login: prompt with the same username/password). Has FreeSBD somewhere a default environment (in that case why does it not appear after logging in at the XDM graphical window) or do you still need to install a Desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) and is it normal that after logging in at the XDM window, you are thrown out again.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 09:53:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2AE106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BC18FC1C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so1087941fxm.3 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:53:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aUO+gps6o50CBHgdQCwCI2qmA/iDsiS0qldic8VTKSc=; b=oDce74C7lQ6LjyI/CmizB+hbAK6dxFsRFhLa1OPeTZBL+nIR43Q0s2QIZqG/I4gq2w d1uWXzWV9lVoBcwWDdEDzK0AkBBcQ9oy9T3XBRr4EcM6irAy4V39rummx6BXNo+f0oHH QS4J3AjWXxuPLc5KUzWQOqGkjel4lBkb3H+tw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=erSF0gAftNioCEcov6KZIBWGQOpP15kDmpddXYzumwuyHtPoLM5Vh8a7IFN9KT/vIa SF+++39L3oYW6NBBarKVXJ9WwdEnxSpPkzEZQJtWVk6sMYt+Aqh0mFqDcgafuY6HwIYA q1DgHZ/PkCc0vqgQjGGrgQLDxKOrr3RRYiC1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.196 with SMTP id 4mr856476hbw.59.1267696385873; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:53:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201003041221.30263.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201003040053.40894.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <201003041221.30263.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:53:05 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Malcolm Kay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:53:11 -0000 2010/3/4 Malcolm Kay > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote: > > On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay > wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: > > > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 28 of February 2010 15:26:54 Frank Shute wrote: > > > > > > I've got a machine here running 7.2 which I want to > > > > > > upgrade to 8.0 but looking at the root slice it is > > > > > > woefully small: > > > > > > > > > > > > $ df -h > > > > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted > > > > > > on /dev/ad4s2 190M 146M 29M 84% / > > > > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > > > > > /dev/ad4s4 129G 15G 104G 12% /usr > > > > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% > > > > > > /var/named/dev > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a CD/DVD writer on that machine along with a > > > > > > 100MB ethernet connection to my desktop. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I go about upgrading it? Dump/restore and > > > > > > change the partition table? > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions gratefully received. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Yes. The dump/restore should do the trick as long as you > > > > > have another medium > > > > > to store the dumps (such as another hard disk). You will > > > > > store the images of > > > > > your slices to the new medium using dump(8). You can > > > > > then use FixIt console to > > > > > re-partition and re-slice your hard disk and then > > > > > restore(8) your images in the newly sliced hard disk. > > > > > Actually, if you have another hard disk device, you can > > > > > use piped dump/restore to copy the whole system from one > > > > > disk to the other and make the second one your bootable > > > > > disk. Of course you must have sliced the second device > > > > > first. > > > > > I've done this many times. The first was to remove an > > > > > openSUSE partition I had, > > > > > living in the same hard disk as my FreeBSD. The second > > > > > time was to move my FreeBSD to another hard disk > > > > > (physical device). The new disk became my boot disk. > > > > > The third time was to move my system to another bigger > > > > > hard disk device and at > > > > > the same time be formated as ZFS. > > > > > Now my system boots from this third hard disk device, > > > > > having ZFS and the operating system is the same as that > > > > > I first installed (of cource updated...) > > > > > > > > > > Elias > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi > > > > >ons To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than > > > > dump. Just make sure you use the following flags > > > > > > > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids > > > > > > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably OK > > > if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar situation > > > as doing backups with tar. These schemes also alter the > > > access times on files (which I guess doesn't usually matter > > > too much). > > > > > > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync and > > > manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with > > > questionable schemes. > > > > I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in > > this case its not a problem as he will be in single user mode. > > I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem. > > > > Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are > > intact. > > I did not mention modification times but access times which I > admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for any > utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only exception I > know of. > > Sorry i misread > > > I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very > > effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small > > numbers of files than having to go digging into dump files. > > > > I've not found this too difficult even when working with > compressed dumps. > > > The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean we > > can do incremental forever, as well which is much more > > efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps. > > Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but > this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem. > > For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the effectiveness. > For example when you are asked to recover the original of a file > that was changed before the lastest backup. Many of us think it > desirable to regularly archive complete backups. > > This is not a problem in our scenario as the backend storage is zfs and all underpinned with snapshots. This enables us to retrieve and file from any day for the last x days dependent on the retention period. > But each to his own; backup methods and strategies have always > been something of a controverial issues. > > > > > > Malcolm Kay > > > > > > > I use it in our backup setup at work, and have restored > > > > countless freebsd boxes. > > > > > > > > When you repartition the drive remember to add the boot > > > > blocks > > > > > > > > eg > > > > > > > > fdisk -B ad0 > > > > bsdlabel -B ad0s1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-question > > > >s To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 11:53:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55504106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@webcontracts.co.uk) Received: from batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.95.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6228FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.webcontracts.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF10464005 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 212.159.19.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mlaw) by www.webcontracts.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:56 -0000 Message-ID: <5f2fd5523c5fb10e82e49e7250430ab7.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:56 -0000 From: "Matthew Law" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Root on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:53:58 -0000 I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot I got to this section: "Create bootdir directory where the boot file system will be mounted: # mkdir /tank/bootdir # ln -s bootdir/boot /tank/boot" I am confused about the symlink line - what is 'bootdir' ? Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 12:09:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83E4106564A; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956748FC14; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1so1361630gya.13 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:09:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3fVegXeUavo4S6I+6BwKaMaawePGJxAyKXnuqHt/uKM=; b=ab0axhU64ITt8p6RtdhkoOCv4uve1drPJmlb1NcAcE+2Y4j5wo9CK9elz8+TH1igh5 K0y2ArIsF4ObKtjz1VQD0m8ByWlsUT0mBnIAh3O54xa0PBTwDxVvHnnK//EdOmU7S+V6 fUneBsSikmSBFjRc/K/qHgk7QQ+TlvmCP3U+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ImBy6KtBj4kebQno/ZQFxyEEnNhypZONEe3g7w1YkY3Uk+63B+njd0uMJnRYjocz2H vbfmk4EQBD0C10Kk0Vtnl/I0o7Um6Cm92pwAX5e/MIlEVLyqyYjhFDmj4+9LTkYl9jEl lE8C43UnB0Kv+qYYB5EqT6TLDPgn9koXcTf90= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.7.12 with SMTP id k12mr5305350ani.203.1267704590920; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:09:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:09:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:09:58 -0000 Hello I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the information required by developers for investigating panics and similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 11:07:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E72A106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oli.garnier@free.fr) Received: from smtpfb1-g21.free.fr (smtpfb1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830F48FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (smtp2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by smtpfb1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06342D5B0 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:49:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DA54B0080 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:49:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (liz77-1-88-176-109-74.fbx.proxad.net [88.176.109.74]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475974B01C5 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:49:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:49:36 +0100 From: Olivier GARNIER User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100303-0, 03/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:36:57 +0000 Subject: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:07:36 -0000 Hi, I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then get data from my BSD. The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. I don't know if it will work on BSD. If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232 translater... and it's not cheap. Has anybody already done a such network ? Thanks, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 12:43:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F57B106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7A38FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:43:20 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEACs5j0uWZcBC/2dsb2JhbACcCbdKhHwE Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 04 Mar 2010 23:13:18 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 4 Mar 2010 23:43:17 +1100 Received: from smtp.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.32] RDNS failed) by mail1.pdconsec.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:42:31 +1100 Received: from [10.14.6.41] ([150.101.192.69] helo=[10.14.6.41]) with IPv4:10025 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 4 Mar 2010 23:43:17 +1100 Message-ID: <4B8FAAB7.1060203@pdconsec.net> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:42:31 +1100 From: David Rawling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <75a268721003010102n4e1cc375qdbd8f3b2acb96c40@mail.gmail.com> <20100301154004.GU70798@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100301154004.GU70798@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2010 12:42:31.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[280834D0:01CABB98] Subject: Re: IBM DS4800 Storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:43:21 -0000 On 2/03/2010 2:40 AM, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 01), Omer Faruk Sen said: > >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 1 0 >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): SCSI Status: Check Condition >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:94,1 >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Vendor Specific ASC >> (da0:isp1:0:0:6): Unretryable error >> > According to the "DS4000 Problem Determination Guide" at > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/systems/support/system_x_pdf/gc27207600.pdf#page=104 > , ASC/ASCQ 94/01 corresponds to "Invalid Request Due to Current Logical Unit > Ownership". Maybe the DS4800 thinks that the lun has been assigned to a > different host, and that's why it won't let the FreeBSD machine access it. > > Other web searches indicate that this may be an attempt to access the > passive path of multipathed device on an active/passive RAID array. If > that's the case, FreeBSD should have found another disk (da1 possibly?) that > you should be able to use. > > That being the case, it's also possible that the LUN is accessible to the FreeBSD system, but another application or system has applied a SCSI-2 "reservation" or a SCSI-3 persistent reservation to the disk; that would prevent the FreeBSD system from accessing the LUN. Perhaps see what servers or devices the DS4800 thinks is connected to the LUN. Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Mob: +61 412 135 513 Email: djr@pdconsec.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 12:49:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B551065674 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f226.google.com (mail-ew0-f226.google.com [209.85.219.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1FA8FC38 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so1655282ewy.3 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:49:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=SXnf3ygoqiRPv2/0BOiDpY7PuDrCoCSgubNhX5V+AfM=; b=kUCCiu2V1NdOchxXDDhEA5xFi3kU3Uula4dsl1sTjnRgFNKms26uyOXjW2hsY4U05U wUjAXuQPyOb0Edajkl5pRuGcPIDp95UbfTgfmqzbPLp+1un60KfxBU1dUppyrmcWDY7/ 8gmxf/OCYALifv+QDskyJKDVYFCtWVHrYKV4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=d2GsJm/jHnkk5HtPPp/lbbRemAahTqE3MYi/MsaiJOXqFkobd6+PhdY7yEvreQesIB 8ycEsmn/O+tHb9fksSKyChT0c5eCrTguw2wT8cMZo0wGjexvYA13+yCLW4Ehz2aXge4W boAFZHXtz4w40PeXtYLTrlXVKgssRJRQHjTzA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.23.92 with SMTP id q28mr7022694ebb.33.1267706989105; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:49:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <11167f521003031131q36687a70hb493720b087fabe3@mail.gmail.com> References: <35f70db11003031117v5f2dd34ah62d4722b58bfb135@mail.gmail.com> <11167f521003031131q36687a70hb493720b087fabe3@mail.gmail.com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:49:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fc9f147f42858aab Message-ID: <35f70db11003040449q121783b7ge799e89932cd5f4c@mail.gmail.com> To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 802.11QinQ support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:49:56 -0000 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Ross Cameron > wrote: >> Hi there all >> >> Does anyone know off hand if FreeBSD 8.0 or -CURRENT supports >> 802.1QinQ aka netsted VLans? > > > I don't believe FreeBSD supports QinQ yet, however it apparently has > always been possible to do nested vlans with netgraph. > My trouble with netgraph has always been that there was never a > sufficient amount of examples on the web to be able to do anything > useful with it. I've also read that netgraph can apparently do QinQ, but I can only get normal VLan's working :( -- "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 13:00:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1A11065673 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2388FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o24D0piq084358; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:00:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:00:51 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Olivier GARNIER In-Reply-To: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> Message-ID: References: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:00:54 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Olivier GARNIER wrote: > I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / > RS232). I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the > weather station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). I already > have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. > > I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : > http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html > And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then > get data from my BSD. > > The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 > translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. I > don't know if it will work on BSD. If it does not work, i'll be oblige > to buy another RJ45 to RS232 translater... and it's not cheap. > > Has anybody already done a such network ? I have used this: http://www.extron.com/product/product.aspx?id=iplts6&s=0 ...with no issues. This one has six RS232 ports; they also make versions with one, two and four ports. The interface is software-neutral - just open a TCP connection to the device on port 2001, and everything you send and receive from the socket goes through the RS232 port. There is an embedded web server for configuration. I don't know what the pricing is on these things, but I'm sure they are not cheap (being Extron and all). But they are easy to use, work right and don't break. Just my opinion; hope this helps. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 13:09:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A8C106564A; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F698FC28; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so92323bwz.14 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:09:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=7XW2wBnMGpT8Aja4pJi8ShT0eXTaj7ztbfWduQUy/9o=; b=mlBp6vGNLDHP+ZZ4M3TE9jC0b+VGAOjbsdSMt5ZDXz5Hbn012wrMdpu0OdqSgczLWI jgQnRFKdmUeivj3+uUkDfiB8jTUyYI/9XFnEoVRt0kB7VS0Nvgojx7TW+Yyn9ZpTFOO1 ex+eHDyvOXIjE2i4bazBsfgfKEuTY1w6MdAPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=yGj4jXG8hAuExHXYJaWjSWvrQAUHRnSz5CAr/1L14Fid77bbJrC4PK9TdFBOwB6VkP 9eKKlmQ3FnlsQd4cwT7+cED2he1LJp6XySEK+xJBUug2lIjGLB60QNS2DMfZi2sCV9q3 K2MwfvSwYaplZXHWhA4D8mDUNIpWFKSy75haQ= Received: by 10.102.216.24 with SMTP id o24mr251129mug.13.1267708156118; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from centel.dataix.local (ppp-21.216.dialinfree.com [209.172.21.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm2529854mug.20.2010.03.04.05.09.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:09:14 -0800 (PST) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:06:50 -0500 From: jhell To: Dan Naumov In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:09:27 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: > Hello > > I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has > there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash > reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the > information required by developers for investigating panics and > similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and > anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > Hi Dan, I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable="YES" is not what you are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? Regards, -- jhell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 13:43:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF36B1065672; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout3.freenet.de (mout3.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755918FC1C; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #1) id 1NnBKl-0006rl-Vf; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:43:23 +0100 Received: from p57ae1de2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([87.174.29.226]:61705 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #2) id 1NnBKl-0003of-P4; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:43:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:43:21 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: jhell Message-ID: <20100304144321.39ad948d@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Dan Naumov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:43:29 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:06:50 -0500 jhell wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: > > Hello > > > > I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has > > there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash > > reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the > > information required by developers for investigating panics and > > similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and > > anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. > > > > > > - Sincerely, > > Dan Naumov > > > > Hi Dan, > > I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable="YES" is not what you > are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? > > The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for > developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? > This feature is mentioned as a mechanism which could be used as part of the automatic reporting functionality. So it's not quite the same thing. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 13:48:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6EA106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1A08FC28 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.43]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 05:48:36 -0800 Message-ID: <4B8FBA2B.8060001@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:48:27 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2010 13:48:37.0016 (UTC) FILETIME=[63B11980:01CABBA1] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Loader.conf mfs statements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:48:37 -0000 Tyring to understand what mfsbsd is doing. In its loader.conf file i see these statements geom_uzip_load="YES" mfs_load="YES" mfs_type="mfs_root" mfs_name-"/mfsroot" tmpfs_laod="YES" vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/mdo Where do I find documentation on the meaning of these statements? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 13:51:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634F5106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00518FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:51:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMFHj0t5LQMU/2dsb2JhbACbP3S3LoR8BA Received: from ppp121-45-3-20.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.3.20]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2010 00:21:11 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: krad Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:21:10 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20100228132654.GA2796@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <201003041221.30263.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003050021.10356.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / slice too small X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:51:14 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:23 pm, krad wrote: > 2010/3/4 Malcolm Kay > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:44 am, krad wrote: > > > On 3 March 2010 14:23, Malcolm Kay > > > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:44 am, krad wrote: > > > > > On 28 February 2010 15:42, Elias Chrysocheris > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You might well find it easier to use rsync rather than > > > > > dump. Just make sure you use the following flags > > > > > > > > > > rsync -aHP --numeric-ids > > > > > > > > This is a bit questionable for copying live fs. Probably > > > > OK if you use snapshots. Leaves you in very similar > > > > situation as doing backups with tar. These schemes also > > > > alter the access times on files (which I guess doesn't > > > > usually matter too much). > > > > > > > > But dump/restore is no more complex to use than rsync > > > > and manages snapshots for you, so why mess about with > > > > questionable schemes. > > > > > > I understand what you mean about live file systems, but in > > > this case its not a problem as he will be in single user > > > mode. > > > > I'm not sure that single user mode avoids this problem. > > > > > Also using the "a" flag means the modification times are > > > intact. > > > > I did not mention modification times but access times which > > I admit are seldom put to any use. It is very difficult for > > any utility to avoid altering these -- dump is the only > > exception I know of. > > > > Sorry i misread > > > > > I use rsync at work over 100s of systems and it is very > > > effective, and the noc find it far easier to recover small > > > numbers of files than having to go digging into dump > > > files. > > > > I've not found this too difficult even when working with > > compressed dumps. > > > > > The way we have got everything setup on a zfs backend mean > > > we can do incremental forever, as well which is much more > > > efficient than having to do regular level 0 dumps. > > > > Yes, rsync is great for updating incremental changes but > > this is quite irrelevant to the OP's problem. > > > > For backup it seems this also somewhat reduces the > > effectiveness. For example when you are asked to recover the > > original of a file that was changed before the lastest > > backup. Many of us think it desirable to regularly archive > > complete backups. > > This is not a problem in our scenario as the backend storage > is zfs and all underpinned with snapshots. This enables us to > retrieve and file from any day for the last x days dependent > on the retention period. Sounds good. I have no experience with zfs. But I suggest that 'x' needs to be quite large. Anyway I think we (or rather I) have done the subject to death, and it is time for me to keep quiet. Regards, Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 14:15:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FEB106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-0-0-cust385.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [82.21.105.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217868FC0A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.71 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NnBpL-000AtI-R5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:14:59 +0000 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:14:59 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100304141459.GH57934@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4B8FBA2B.8060001@a1poweruser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B8FBA2B.8060001@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: Loader.conf mfs statements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:15:01 -0000 On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:48:27PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > Tyring to understand what mfsbsd is doing. > In its loader.conf file i see these statements > geom_uzip_load="YES" > mfs_load="YES" > mfs_type="mfs_root" > mfs_name-"/mfsroot" > tmpfs_laod="YES" > vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/mdo > > Where do I find documentation on the meaning of these statements? loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf -- Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 14:17:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2B81065673 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from connollys1@yahoo.com) Received: from web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D6748FC1E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61802 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Mar 2010 13:50:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267710656; bh=2AgINQwYgH3cFz4WYl1LdERpQTkFbrEQZ/DTvVUsX/g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FXd0jcln+1Xuk8Pk8rNhVibM2krE8B+LaIt3ljVxlTIaGGb0E3i/Entp2A97WjT1UhT+gYjK6Xxc4YA7M2e3zHZ3wF3FDRIrYiPoyhDSe4J8whuFxTHrlCNxqn7wHFeZijFD6TwOsINnYRFdnIbLZpsJ+NdNAoJxd70B+gyZJQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kBzAVXQYXtiA/gFfYPfl+2LMtM71ilSEJyD3iNIbhbQwRHbhRyCDlGchqymn+LufJkJAY3RsR0vNKm1GxmKFZqL+Rx1ywxaKyZc7Hk1gtuwBmHiP/k3kHrMMYm1fHtN4WiTPIU9DNUbHSNzkZohoRWwTOXynOjHr2qIQrWa2CUQ=; Message-ID: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cDLlguYVM1lhv5c8jE.1VAZL9dOhvqyNSLePVkkvRgM45sm7Jt8NSiBdu0MXJd4ZHge6xhvh00UOv4NVwlsHVGWDUVkRgj2gsqovUqUXdJZPu4yn1Vh2nKBbtJt.blav64sjCThVp5H5yDdv2TSHHWUltnSs6TMQhmTsdq57AMzZKdWvE66k2v2Dsx4Ackp00Czb8Np_J33PyE7yzZdzDFeHIE7KJOsKuzKdFIlUugI7VAjW4fcP7wdNynK7MwIgw_2jrc.mSU_Rbaz7zxOHJnhjMOSO3Uw_gHuguzNERZbD78EiqpfGIiPQro5l5A-- Received: from [128.36.117.70] by web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:50:56 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 05:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: sean connolly To: Dan Naumov In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:17:40 -0000 Hi Dan, Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. Sean ________________________________ From: jhell To: Dan Naumov Cc: FreeBSD Hackers ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:06:50 AM Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: > Hello > > I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has > there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash > reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the > information required by developers for investigating panics and > similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and > anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. > > > - Sincerely, > Dan Naumov > Hi Dan, I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable="YES" is not what you are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? Regards, -- jhell _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 14:35:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2750F106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CE08FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1925 invoked by uid 98); 4 Mar 2010 14:49:42 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.6 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.95.1/9971. hbedv: 7.9.1.53/7.1.6.174. spamassassin: 3.2.5. 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Processed in 4.087754 secs); 04 Mar 2010 14:49:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO minuteman.lerwick.hopto.org) (192.168.0.6) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2010 14:49:38 +0000 Message-ID: <4B8FC52C.1030809@lerwick.hopto.org> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:35:24 +0000 From: Craig Butler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091221 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk References: <5f2fd5523c5fb10e82e49e7250430ab7.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5f2fd5523c5fb10e82e49e7250430ab7.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:35:43 -0000 On 04/03/2010 11:53, Matthew Law wrote: > I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot > > I got to this section: > > "Create bootdir directory where the boot file system will be mounted: > > # mkdir /tank/bootdir > # ln -s bootdir/boot /tank/boot" > > I am confused about the symlink line - what is 'bootdir' ? > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Matt bootdir is where the ufs boot partition gets mounted on further down in the instructions... The symbolic link is to keep everything in order when; * upgrading or installing a new kernel * updating any of the boot configs. Regards /Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 15:27:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3066B106574D for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oli.garnier@wanadoo.fr) Received: from smtpfb2-g21.free.fr (smtpfb2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCED8FC1C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (smtp2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by smtpfb2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEDED1A611 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:08:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB58D4B00E4 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:08:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (liz77-1-88-176-109-74.fbx.proxad.net [88.176.109.74]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D9C4B0152 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:08:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8FCCD5.6020406@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:08:05 +0100 From: Olivier GARNIER User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100304-0, 04/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Virtual RS232 port link on IP or on network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:27:25 -0000 Hi, Is it possible to create a virtual COM port on FreeBSD. And to link it to a network card, or what whould be better to an ip adress on my network ? Thanks, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 15:41:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84095106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from westr@connection.ca) Received: from nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca (nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca [205.207.122.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636218FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from westr-main.tor.connection.ca (external.tor.connection.ca [216.234.38.18]) by nc-tor-mail2.connection.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B3274E597; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:41:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:41:42 -0500 From: Ross Organization: Network Connection X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <353224805.20100304104142@connection.ca> To: don Juan In-Reply-To: <2c16b4711002240651q5ac2128fl19010e8bec39bfd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c16b4711002240651q5ac2128fl19010e8bec39bfd9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install.cfg for Documentation Installation Menu on 8.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ross List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:41:43 -0000 dJ> What come up with 8.0-RELEASE is the new FreeBSD dJ> Documentation Installation Menu in sysinstall. I would like to know dJ> what command for install.cfg to configure my installation with, say, dJ> English Documentation. It's undocumented (and breaks non-interactive installs) so I ended up going through the source to find the answer for myself a while ago. The option you want is: distDoc=#### Where the #### is a bitfield for which versions of the doc packages you want installed. Also the bitfield must be in _decimal_, not 0x## format, or it won't correctly select what you want. You need to view version 1.75 or higher of dist.h (from sysinstall's source) to get the full listing. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/dist.h?rev=1.75.2.1.2.1;content-type=text%2Fplain 0 (zero) disables installation. 16 is english. *** WARNING/RANT: If you use any of the "distSetxxxxxx" (eg: distSetKernDeveloper) options to select what to install, it doesn't matter what you've selected above - you _will_ be prompted with a menu to select a doc package upon running sysinstall. (Those options reset distDoc option above). Non-interactive sysinstall is effectively broken in FreeBSD 8.0 distribution disks. (There is a way around it, but it's a pain in the butt) That being said: sysinstall has been patched in source last month (Feb 2010), so should be good for 8.1, with the default of no docs installed if "nonInteractive=yes" is set in your sysinstall.cfg file. R. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:00:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BB7106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@webcontracts.co.uk) Received: from batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.95.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295E68FC2E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.webcontracts.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by batfink.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B60664005; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:00:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 212.159.19.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mlaw) by www.webcontracts.co.uk with HTTP; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:00:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4b57d2606f70fb97c59d0f2aaef7d1c8.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <86pr3k852o.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <5f2fd5523c5fb10e82e49e7250430ab7.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> <86pr3k852o.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:00:37 -0000 From: "Matthew Law" To: "Randal L. Schwartz" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:00:39 -0000 On Thu, March 4, 2010 3:44 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Law writes: > > Matthew> I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: > Matthew> http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot > > If you're running RELEASE-8 or later, I've gotten this to work just fine: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot Thanks, guys. Yes, I am on 8-RELEASE. I was really looking to create a 3-disk raidz or raidz2 volume with 1 hot spare. I happened across this page: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/RAIDZ2 and started to follow that. > Currently live on two slices at arpnetworks.com with that. > > The trickiest part is that Arp installs an existing system on the disk, > and the instructions there don't tell how to remove it. :( > > I can't remember the workaround, but someone in IRC told me. > ("gpart destroy" didn't work, because it said "already in use") I ran into this and figured out I need to remove each slice first. But it did take a little head scratching. I installed a minimal OS from a USB stick onto a single SATA drive. After testing it was installed and running OK, I rebooted and chose the fixit option from sysinstall and followed the above guide. I've got to this part: 7. 'Create ZFS Pool zroot' Fixit# mkdir /boot/zfs Fixit# zpool create zroot raidz2 /dev/gpt/disk0 /dev/gpt/disk1 /dev/gpt/disk2 Fixit# zpool set bootfs=zroot zroot The zpool create command fails because I don't have '/dev/gpt' - I take it I haven't actually installed with gpt in the first place? Can I go back and do that and what's the advantage of gpt? Finally, I had problems with the SAS card in this box, which is a bog standard LSI SAS8041E. I can install OK, but on rebooting it can't find the root slice, panics and drops me into mountroot. Where I get stuck. Any help much appreciated, Matt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:06:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB4F106568C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0898FC27 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o24G5viL086305 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:05:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:06:02 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:05:57 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o24G5viL086305 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:06:01 -0000 Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:06:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AE8106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267CD8FC18 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F11DF1DE320; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0800 (PST) To: matt@webcontracts.co.uk References: <5f2fd5523c5fb10e82e49e7250430ab7.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.17; tzolkin = 8 Caban; haab = 15 Kayab Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5f2fd5523c5fb10e82e49e7250430ab7.squirrel@www.webcontracts.co.uk> (Matthew Law's message of "Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:53:56 -0000") Message-ID: <86pr3k852o.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:06:57 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Law writes: Matthew> I am following this wiki page to move to zfs root: Matthew> http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot If you're running RELEASE-8 or later, I've gotten this to work just fine: http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot Currently live on two slices at arpnetworks.com with that. The trickiest part is that Arp installs an existing system on the disk, and the instructions there don't tell how to remove it. :( I can't remember the workaround, but someone in IRC told me. ("gpart destroy" didn't work, because it said "already in use") -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:07:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9089106567E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F24E8FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hadar.vindaloo.com (hadar.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19E5D46; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:07:34 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Hilton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:07:33 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: Subject: Ports: Can I share the port options in /var/db/ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:07:35 -0000 I'm sharing my /usr/ports directory via NFS among several machines. One = problem that I have is with port options set in /var/db/ports. Is there = a ports environment variable that I could set in /etc/make.conf which = would force these to be somewhere in /usr/ports/vindaloo-port-options so = that setting options on one machine would carry through to others = sharing my build environment? -- Chris Chris Hilton tildeChris -- = http://myblog.vindaloo.com e: -- chris /at/ vindaloo /dot/ = com = .~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~= ~. "I'm on the outside looking inside, What do I = see? Much confusion, disillusion, all around = me." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:09:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6E9106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FB28FC14 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [96.224.35.192]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KYR00HCSM7WNTA0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:09:33 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <4B8FDB38.5040300@mac.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:09:28 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olivier GARNIER References: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> In-reply-to: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:09:44 -0000 Olivier GARNIER wrote: > I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / RS232). > I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather > station (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). > I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. You can simply connect a RS-232 serial port via ethernet cable using 9-pin DIN to RJ-45 connector adaptors at both ends. No need to convert the serial data stream into TCP/IP over ethernet. Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 meters and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. Regards. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:11:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4269106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FE68FC26 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o24GBhw3067053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:11:44 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@black-earth.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8FDBB8.3020405@black-earth.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:11:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Hilton References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig74194699F39020F9F616A869" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports: Can I share the port options in /var/db/ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:11:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig74194699F39020F9F616A869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/03/2010 16:07:33, Christopher Hilton wrote: > I'm sharing my /usr/ports directory via NFS among several machines.=20 > One problem that I have is with port options set in /var/db/ports. > Is there a ports environment variable that I could set in > /etc/make.conf which would force these to be somewhere in=20 > /usr/ports/vindaloo-port-options so that setting options on one=20 > machine would carry through to others sharing my build environment? $PORT_DBDIR Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 --------------enig74194699F39020F9F616A869 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuP278ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIws8QCffOY+KwqwRhwSwy0G8dceUQPY 5/0An3k04ZMIKfU5VyUFkZGDw3lDWDyH =5EH2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig74194699F39020F9F616A869-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:13:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB73C10656BD for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1F68FCA8 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hadar.vindaloo.com (hadar.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A385D46; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:12:59 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Christopher Hilton In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:12:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Christopher Hilton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Solved - Was: Ports: Can I share the port options in /var/db/ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:13:17 -0000 On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Christopher Hilton wrote: > I'm sharing my /usr/ports directory via NFS among several machines. = One problem that I have is with port options set in /var/db/ports. Is = there a ports environment variable that I could set in /etc/make.conf = which would force these to be somewhere in = /usr/ports/vindaloo-port-options so that setting options on one machine = would carry through to others sharing my build environment? >=20 A little creative greping found it. Sorry to bother the list should have = grepped first. # PORT_DBDIR - Where port configuration options are recorded. # Default: /var/db/ports = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- "There will be an answer, Let it = be." e: chris -at- vindaloo -dot- = com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:14:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BB41065695 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8898FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1817376bwz.3 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:13:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Rk5vZ/RGDR3IGKmJ2o+H+dW/NCIExuGHUWk2OJMYr7w=; b=k9WtoSH5lpar1N+p0HAETJukI5Xp+lP2glRrXEyu89UKVoL9HTXfmXoXw2mDs4gnjY p/6jgoMNYM4jJEpjccyh4EETFTn0t4rjBpiX9iFBV56usRkG9L6Mm0r7Zqe7/FHY5suA AujK2M11xVKrU1LqhmgLQvojxczFL5rEaIsek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=KkmeBUZNdAayy50TzL9pvyehYPOIDX/KLBwvV9x2/Q4uNTKQVUiKA4Q5IGcioUCeNx Ob2VK3FRVqmGHNuQWOYADWHp8J3GgUyyony2FyV2QmWbBw4FE7+H27V1zyYF4XVpnzTL 36iIvPDjDgJbKgnJP/dmIVz9cWKgKBYMam6PU= Received: by 10.102.197.12 with SMTP id u12mr1465663muf.8.1267719211590; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm3520447muh.28.2010.03.04.08.13.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:13:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:10:10 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20100304161010.GA92698@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:14:51 -0000 Hi, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an > entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) > cleanly? Have a look at the 20100205 entry of ports/UPDATING. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:14:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D656810656B3 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9A68FC4C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF4010E77C; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:15:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dtp+X6SCT1pY; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:15:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374B810E50A; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:15:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:13:38 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:14:52 -0000 On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an > entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) > cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:19:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEC1106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CA58FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2010 11:19:10 -0500 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LLO47895; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2010 11:19:10 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19343.56701.688674.181703@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:19:09 -0500 To: Tim Daneliuk In-Reply-To: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:19:12 -0000 Tim Daneliuk writes: > Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to > upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or > whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:20:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35FB1065672 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872588FC15 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o24GKkGG006499; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:20:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003041620.o24GKkGG006499@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: Olivier GARNIER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6497.1267719646.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:20:46 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:20:56 -0000 Olivier GARNIER writes: > I have a weather station (Lacross WS2350). (can be connect by USB / > RS232). > > I want to get data from a FreeBSD server 70 meter from the weather station > (with http://www.wviewweather.com/ software). > > I already have a RJ45 cable between the two objects. > > I wish i could get a RS232 to RJ45 connecter like this one : > http://www.lextronic.fr/P6554-convertisseur-tcpip--rs232-cse-h53.html > > And use it to connect the weather station to the RJ45 network, and then > get > data from my BSD. > > > > The bad point is that the soft witch are given with the RS232 to RJ45 > translater are for windows, and it make a virtual port on windows. > > I don't know if it will work on BSD. > > If it does not work, i'll be oblige to buy another RJ45 to RS232 > translater... and it's not cheap. You did not say what version of FreeBSD you are using and it does make a difference. The usb port stack was rewritten for FreeBSD8.0 so that probably works best. I tried to attach a usb converter to a FreeBSD6.3 system and it never worked. Different models of RS-232 converters may work fine. I just could not get these to work at all under 6.3. RJ45 plugs and CAT3 or CAT5 Ethernet-style cables are frequently used to carry RS-232 signals so the only somewhat unusual device you will need to procure is a plug adaptor such as one made by Modtap which simply has a RJ45 female on one edge and a male or female RS-232 9 or 25-pin plug or socket on the other edge. These adaptors have no IC's or intelligence built in to them. They just route the conductors in the CATx cable to the right pins. You may have to actually build the adaptor to your needs but these things at least used to be fairly common. The actual RS-232 to usb port converters are relatively inexpensive these days and they do have processors built in to them as well as charge pumps to generate the +-12 volts for RS-232 devices. Some of them are built to work fine under systems other than Windows boxes and others may only work under Windows so you will need to be sure that the one you want to use works. So, in short, you need a plug adaptor to make the RJ45 cable useble with RS-232 devices and you also need any of the common RS-232 to usb converters to actually connect the cable to your FreeBSD computer. As long as the usb-RS-232 converter actually works and produces a new ttyUSBx device, the brand is not that critical. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:23:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6F0106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6F88FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o24GNFMP037494; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:23:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <201003041623.o24GNFMP037494@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:23:25 -0500 To: Olivier GARNIER From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <4B8FCCD5.6020406@wanadoo.fr> References: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> <4B8FCCD5.6020406@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual RS232 port link on IP or on network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:23:17 -0000 Hi, Not sure if this is what you want to do or not, but if you want to connect a device to a serial port on FreeBSD and then access that serial device over the network from a remote machine, try /usr/ports/comms/ser2net ---Mike At 10:08 AM 3/4/2010, Olivier GARNIER wrote: >Hi, > >Is it possible to create a virtual COM port on FreeBSD. >And to link it to a network card, or what whould be better to an ip >adress on my network ? > >Thanks, > >Olivier >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:41:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1C41065676 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:41:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EE18FC14 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o24Gf06Z051029 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:41:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003041641.o24Gf06Z051029@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <51027.1267720860.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:41:00 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:41:14 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers > and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is > truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 > meters > and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of range which is kind of pushing things. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 16:49:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF55D106568B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54848FC23 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A30A50967; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:47:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 47CE245C44; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:48:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2F445C42; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:48:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:48:56 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:47:59 -0600 Message-ID: <19677_1267721337_4B8FE479_19677_1654_1_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCF6DC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. 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Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:51:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DA5711CC50; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:51:31 +0100 (CET) To: Mike Tancsa From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <201003041623.o24GNFMP037494@lava.sentex.ca> (Mike Tancsa's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:23:25 -0500") References: <4B8F9040.90304@free.fr> <4B8FCCD5.6020406@wanadoo.fr> <201003041623.o24GNFMP037494@lava.sentex.ca> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:51:31 +0100 Message-ID: <86mxyo9gj0.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Olivier GARNIER , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtual RS232 port link on IP or on network card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:51:46 -0000 Mike Tancsa writes: Hello, > Not sure if this is what you want to do or not, but if you want to > connect a device to a serial port on FreeBSD and then access that serial > device over the network from a remote machine, try > /usr/ports/comms/ser2net Nope, seems to be the opposite. In OP's context, I'd try to check whether the application he wants to use could be configured to access a remote device over ip (the manual talks about connections to remote weather stations). Generally, is there any way to create a virtual serial device that would be backed by a userland daemon implementing rfc2217 for example ? Regards -- J'ai essayé de creer un news un alt.west.virginia ou sur d'autres alt.west.wirginia.xxx mais quand je vais sur ces forums rien n'apparait? l'emetteur d'un new recoit il un avertissement si celui ci est censuré? -+- LM in: - Bien sansurer ses news sur C-I -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 17:05:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F88106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292468FC14 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o24H53Qw055529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:05:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:05:08 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:05:03 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o24H53Qw055529 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:05:07 -0000 On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to >> upgrade an >> entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) >> cleanly? > > /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) Thanks to all for pointing to this. However, when I run: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: ---> Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' ===> Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 ===> perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 17:13:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8708106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E148FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o24HDaf0067944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:13:37 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:13:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Daneliuk References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL,URIBL_DBL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:13:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2010 17:05:08, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> >> On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >>> Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to >>> upgrade an >>> entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) >>> cleanly? >> >> /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) > > > Thanks to all for pointing to this. > > However, when I run: > > portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* > > I get this problem: > > ---> Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' > ===> Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 > > ===> perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): > perl-5.8.9_3 > > They install files into the same place. > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > > I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' > arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? > You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuP6kAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzOFwCcDWkYxJrX+nPwWpzhrWGBuLTO MIIAn1wVGgCJc4nFdDdxmyXnuzbJ3kni =LfKt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 17:17:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529B1106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2898A8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o24HHkVT027574 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:17:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003041717.o24HHkVT027574@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <27572.1267723066.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:17:46 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:17:55 -0000 I have hit one of these impenetrable walls in which nothing seems to work but I know it should. I have tried several versions of /boot.config to no avail. The idea is exactly the same principle as described in depenguinator which is software that lets one use grub in Linux to install FreeBSD on a working Linux system. The idea is to steal the swap partition, put mfsboot there, and then tell grub to boot from that partition rather than the normal active one. The manual for boot.config makes me think I should be able to just put in the information describing the secondary partition and it should cause a boot from that one but: /boot.config: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader boot: error 1 lba 0 No /boot/loader The mfsboot image works when started from the primary partition so I am stuck as to why boot.config is not starting from that secondary partition. The present boot.config is: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P If mfsbsd was starting, shouldn't it see its boot loader? Is there a mfsbsd discussion list? Surely, somebody else has hit this brick wall, also. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 17:19:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BB31065674 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAA08FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o24HJ54N063594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:19:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B8FEB8F.3060509@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:19:11 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:19:05 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o24HJ54N063594 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:19:10 -0000 On 3/4/2010 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* > Thanks for that. I'm not sure to whom I'd complain and/or if it would make any difference ;) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 18:57:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED83A1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C97E8FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D534A2D8C6; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:55:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:55:56 -0800 From: Jason To: sean connolly Message-ID: <20100304185553.GA41984@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Dan Naumov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:57:41 -0000 On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 05:50:56AM -0800, sean connolly thus spake: >Hi Dan, > >Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. > >Sean > I only slightly disagree, in that in a production environment it may be useful to have the information regardless of the branch to report to an internal company e-mail address. But, maybe there is a routine for -CURRENT to go to @freebsd, in addition to an internal address. Just some thoughts... -j > > > >________________________________ >From: jhell >To: Dan Naumov >Cc: FreeBSD Hackers ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:06:50 AM >Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system > > >On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: >> Hello >> >> I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: >> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has >> there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash >> reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the >> information required by developers for investigating panics and >> similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and >> anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. >> >> >> - Sincerely, >> Dan Naumov >> > >Hi Dan, > >I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable="YES" is not what you >are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? > >The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for >developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? > >Regards, > >-- > > jhell > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 19:44:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B1F1065670 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=672f17c13=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126AF8FC17 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:44:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAEeVj0uBbgog/2dsb2JhbACcMLg8hHwEgxc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,582,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="26404237" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 04 Mar 2010 13:15:02 -0600 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:15:02 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Glen Barber , Chris Hill Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100304015032.GA21561@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> <20100304015032.GA21561@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Thomas Lawrence , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:44:21 -0000 I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of issues with qt4 stuff. --On Wednesday, March 03, 2010 20:50:32 -0500 Glen Barber wrote: > Hi, > > Chris Hill wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Thomas Lawrence wrote: >> >> > Hello Guys and Gals, >> > Can you clear something up for me. >> > Is it possible to install the closed source version of Virtualbox on >> > Freebsd8. >> >> Glen Barber posted this... >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg217302.html >> >> ...last summer. I have not tried it, just saying it's there. >> > > It is a (horribly outdated) pkg_add(1) installer. I haven't had a chance > to update it yet; hopefully this weekend now that my attention has been > drawn to it. > > For the record, it is not the closed-source version. It is > emulators/virtualbox before it was repocopied to > emulators/virtualbox-ose-*. > > Regards, -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 21:32:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A381065670 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD468FC1B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o24LWFhW018772 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:32:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:32:15 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201003042132.o24LWFhW018772@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:32:25 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Mar 4 10:41:36 2010 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:41:00 -0600 > From: Martin McCormick > Subject: Re: RS232 / TCP converter and BSD. > > Chuck Swiger writes: > > Data centers use that for serial connections to stuff like Cisco routers > > and other terminal applications all the time. However, if the device is > > truly RS-232 rather than 422/423, it's nominally out of spec past 50 > > meters > > and possibly won't go past 9600 baud. > > I was wondering about that when I wrote my long-winded > response. I was confused and thought the maximum length for > RS-232 was longer than it is. 70 meters is almost 25% out of > range which is kind of pushing things. The 'standard' way to get around that distance limitation is to use a "RS-232 to current-loop" adapter, often referred to as a 'short haul modem'. see: for one example from a quality, but fairly pricey, source. Note: you need one of these on each end of the wire. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 22:12:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FBB106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245038FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so1077200ywh.14 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:12:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T47A3qKbaS7yRDS+bvn9BmwuPm+unT/oh4YSX3oJW/U=; b=cEAf6CxhtEyCajWFx9G0u4XAlOllSa5RUvE80pKua2r+3WfPDcGqBQpezwotZH2JIO Ug6zwhdygEPTL7YkZlY/43vAjU9wApxOXqa2rii4VfolrcjJN87QvNgHtPyx5uWLpYgQ shVpqZtjGKWHIzrdK9WupdKaO/RZrv0IYcoJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GIw3YC2iyMnTEEROI7cgj7jl6/VKA0Lksv6XT0JJ4m5b0Y8oUoZMJxIlL3a8jf8Nt4 HSYxexaZNVdWF+Zxtr+PgwcTrQQ8iBP6nzvLlLWJXJwsGp/yCsM3cV5LSbVXDSPdaZCh kMu++qKVqp7dviTKrSJDYOo+iiUwj3kRhBBHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.142.16 with SMTP id u16mr385033agn.11.1267740746963; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:12:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> <20100304015032.GA21561@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: <5d6848b01003041412n5022ba61la7f41049dbf93db3@mail.gmail.com> From: Kevin Wilcox To: Paul Schmehl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:12:38 -0000 On 4 March 2010 14:15, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of > issues with qt4 stuff. This doesn't exactly inspire confidence when it comes time for me to do my next round of updates. I remember running into an issue with qt when building Virtualbox but I *believe* a forced removal of everything qt related and letting it start the process from scratch fixed the issue. I'll keep better notes next time :-\ kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 22:49:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A100A106568A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A0E8FC1E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o24Mn3hC046015; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:49:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o24Mn3XT046012; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:49:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:49:03 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> <20100304015032.GA21561@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:49:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:49:31 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of > issues with qt4 stuff. VirtualBox builds fine here, but on a recent 8-stable it locks the system when starting a FreeBSD VM. Maybe on all VMs, but fscks are no fun so I haven't tried. There's a probably-related thread in -emulation. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 23:25:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8C1106564A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2EF8FC0C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.11]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA433DAA7; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:25:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o24NPKmw001546; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:25:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:25:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: n dhert Message-Id: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:25:23 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:30:05 +0100, n dhert wrote: > Installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.0, xorg, configured xorg for my screen, > installed xdm. > After reboot I see a graphical login window. When entering username and > password, it seems to accept it, but immediatly present the graphical login > window again. (In console mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) I can login at the login: > prompt with the > same username/password). > Has FreeSBD somewhere a default environment (in that case why does it not > appear after logging in at the > XDM graphical window) or do you still need to install a Desktop environment > (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) and is it > normal that after logging in at the XDM window, you are thrown out again.. As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Because neither X or FreeBSD itself do include a complete desktop environment (such as KDE, Gnome, Xfce), you need to install it yourself, and then make it available to your user using ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc respectively. If those files are not present, a default should be used by X. According to which version of X you have installed, those defaults could launch twm with some xterms (the default is somewhere in /usr/local/lib/X11, ex /usr/X11R6/lib/X11), or just recognize that X program initialisation is missing and then exit - which is still a bit strange, because the X server should run anyway, "without programs". Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for possible errors. What does happen if you don't run xdm, but instead log in with your user account and then run the "startx" command? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 23:43:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34134106566B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A748FC08 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o24Nh5fe046232; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:43:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o24Nh5nN046229; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:43:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:43:05 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:43:05 -0700 (MST) Cc: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:43:10 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:30:05 +0100, n dhert wrote: >> Installed a fresh FreeBSD-8.0, xorg, configured xorg for my screen, >> installed xdm. >> After reboot I see a graphical login window. When entering username and >> password, it seems to accept it, but immediatly present the graphical login >> window again. (In console mode (Ctrl-Alt-F1) I can login at the login: >> prompt with the >> same username/password). >> Has FreeSBD somewhere a default environment (in that case why does it not >> appear after logging in at the >> XDM graphical window) or do you still need to install a Desktop environment >> (Gnome, KDE, Xfce) and is it >> normal that after logging in at the XDM window, you are thrown out again.. > > As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the > tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case > anymore. twm is still enabled by default as part of the x11/xorg-apps port. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 23:58:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFA61065672 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2B728FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2018 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2010 23:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2010 23:58:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=dQ9XupLAaf0zCMvH4peDg2xwLMIZD9MMAKE6VbcAW82umAEtQdD9a4zyOk4QN7JhTt9eFWZjCj4B9jld5skuwAQxP3qZTDanKZmkGNd/NVg576See2MuR22yTJ7AdqNP; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnKvd-0002Oc-Ib for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: <4B9048F9.1060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:57:45 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9E460C62C41B1ED812CF3D0D" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:58:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9E460C62C41B1ED812CF3D0D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/04/10 17:43, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Polytropon wrote: >> As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the >> tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case >> anymore. >=20 > twm is still enabled by default as part of the x11/xorg-apps port. I can confirm that, and I too have problems with XDM despite having 'exec wmaker' in my .xinitrc in my home directory (sometimes XDM will kick me out to the login, sometimes it will just take me to a blank session wherein I can do nothing). I'd like to use XDM and have it start on boot so I'm interested in the outcome of this. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig9E460C62C41B1ED812CF3D0D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLkEkHAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0r6AH/j8sV50rcu3k/3prtSOmNa0C Hb89vk++a4ATHL0BDbPvnbnIq0FNIZ+2QDiQI4k/OBPJT/fZXdrO5mDu8vLXoJr1 2mUSXEKJzz1l2p7+gKWsBbw12IbPErXJLs8B9qGQdSwuURuf9qDCbU2KuT6ZEMBx /IZLqmnjakdcvImXmvUxXImn7WuDsxxG5ytxRhEYBLyj+m+KWum1M5kZuGNZCZgo pANoLSFs19aVF/fJer4Nl+Zy3egeUF7hMRAb2Y9swHnw/ETXONp2YbXHdwfCjUvF pxEEQl9uqfBcdsMCJuPZG7kUKIGmmyDgCilnSxOwvl8gnE0IAhVrcxaM0M76BoI= =fPon -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9E460C62C41B1ED812CF3D0D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 23:58:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8B7106566C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emailrob@emailrob.com) Received: from mx04.dls.net (mx04.dls.net [216.145.245.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BAF8FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.145.235.87] (helo=emailrob.com) by mx04.dls.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnJpk-0000L0-Cg; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:47:57 -0600 Message-ID: <4B9038B0.9050401@emailrob.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:48:16 +0000 From: spellberg_robert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd_questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ fbsd_questions ] tar(1) vs. msdos_fs: a death_spiral ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:58:21 -0000 greetings, all --- i confess that this one has me flummoxed. the short question: does tar(1) spit_up when extracting onto an msdos_fs hard_drive ? [ i tried the mailing_list archives "tar AND msdos", for -questions, -chat, -bugs, -newbies, -performance ] [ other research as indicated ] i have no problem using tar(1) on ufs. large files, small files; if i am on ufs, everything is fine. i have been creating tarballs from medium_size msdos_fs drives, also. this worked fine. i would check them by extracting into a ufs root_point. no problem. this week, i tried to do something new. i wanted to take a tarball, already on ufs, that was created from an msdos_fs drive and extract it onto an msdos_fs drive. this, to me, actually seems like a reaasonable idea; but, what do i know ? well, it starts out just fine, but, it rapidly degenerates into what is, normally, infinite_loop land. when ps(1) says cpu_% of 1%, 2%, 5%; ok, it is an active process. in about ten minutes, tar(1) enters 90% cpu. after 20 minutes, 99%. i does not matter if X_windows is running. foreground or background process, no difference. it seems to be working correctly because the error_file is always of zero_size. i suspect that if i left it alone, after a few days, it would finish. some details [ everything is ufs, using 8kB/1kB, except "/mnt", which is clustered as indicated; of course, the tarball is not named "ball", nor is the path, to the tarball, named "path", but, then, you knew that ]. mkdir /path_c mkdir /path_c/88_x mkdir /path_d mkdir /path_d/88_x mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s1 /mnt [ fat_32, about 6_GB, 4_KB cluster, the "c:\" drive, primary partition. ] cd /mnt ( tar cvplf /path_c/99_ball.tar . > /path_c/90_cvpl.out ) > & /path_c/91_cvpl.err & [ real time 16m 07s, exit_status 0 ] cd / ; umount /mnt mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s5 /mnt [ fat_32, about 12_GB, 8_KB cluster, the "d:\" drive, extended partition. ] cd /mnt ( tar cvplf /path_d/99_ball.tar . > /path_d/90_cvpl.out ) > & /path_d/91_cvpl.err & [ real time 20m 15s, exit_status 0 ] cd / ; umount /mnt cd /path_c/88_x ( tar xvplf ../99_ball.tar > ../92_xvpl.out ) > & ../93_xvpl.err & [ real time 08m 11s; exit_status 0 ] diff ../9[02]* [ exit_status 0; the tables_of_contents are the same ] ls -l .. [ visually inspect the error_files to be of zero_size - verified ] cd /path_d/88_x ( tar xvplf ../99_ball.tar > ../92_xvpl.out ) > & ../93_xvpl.err & [ real time 12m 37s; exit_status 0 ] diff ../9[02]* [ exit_status 0; the tables_of_contents are the same ] ls -l .. [ visually inspect the error_files to be of zero_size - verified ] [ note that this approach works; it is a good excuse to refill my coffee_cup. ] [ physically replace the source hard_drive w/ 80_GB capacity, 32_KB cluster, primary_partition only, virgin hard_drive. this destination hard_drive was "fdisk"ed and "format"ed yesterday_morning; this drive was "scandisk"ed yesterday for 12 hours, using the "thorough" option, it has zero bad clusters [ i wanted to eliminate the drive as the problem ] ]. mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s1 /mnt mkdir /mnt/path_cc cd /mnt/path_cc ( tar xvplf /path_c/99_ball.tar > ../92_xvpl.out ) > & ../93_xvpl.err & [ started this at 18:05_utc, it is now about 21:35_utc; the toc_file, from the 8_minute extraction above, has 87517 lines in it; the current toc_file has only 12667 lines. ] [ this is the second hard_drive i have tried this on, this week; i will probably kill the process as xterm is being updated about 8 seconds apart, now. ] on the first hard_drive [ i have not done this on the second drive, yet ] i noted that i had a successful extraction on the ufs drive. not being the smartest person around, i had, what i thought to be, a --brilliant-- idea, "what if i try a recursive copy of the successful extraction" ? this is interesting; the recursive copy started_out like gang_busters, then, just like the extraction, slowly bogged_down to 99%_cpu. hmmm..., two different msdos_fs hard_drives, two different normally_reliable utilities, same progressive_hogging of the cpu. this makes me wonder about the msdos_fs hard_drive, which is, rapidly, becoming the only remaining common factor. ok. i tried the mailing lists. right now, i am web_page searching; tar(1) seems to be slow in some situations, but, i have not, yet, found --this-- situation. also, in reading the man_pages for mount(1) and tar(1), i am starting to wonder if this could be a tar(1) "block_size" issue. i am not doing any encryption or compression, in either direction. last check at about 22:45_utc: 99.0%_cpu, 0.1%_mem. does anyone have any thoughts ? please cc. rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 4 23:59:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E3C1065673 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF838FC16 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:59:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.43]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:59:03 -0800 Message-ID: <4B90493E.2050507@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:58:54 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4B8FBA2B.8060001@a1poweruser.com> <20100304141459.GH57934@catflap.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20100304141459.GH57934@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2010 23:59:03.0321 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAABB890:01CABBF6] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: Loader.conf mfs statements X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:59:03 -0000 Daniel Bye wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:48:27PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: >> Tyring to understand what mfsbsd is doing. >> In its loader.conf file i see these statements >> geom_uzip_load="YES" >> mfs_load="YES" >> mfs_type="mfs_root" >> mfs_name-"/mfsroot" >> tmpfs_laod="YES" >> vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/mdo >> >> Where do I find documentation on the meaning of these statements? > > loader.conf(5) and /boot/defaults/loader.conf > All ready checked those sources before posting with no joy. IE: your are wrong. Those sources have no info on the mfs* statements. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 00:49:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7BA1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=6737b3789=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-002.utdallas.edu (ip-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029D8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 00:49:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcFAP/cj0uBbgogUmdsb2JhbACbUAEkQ7dEhHwEgxc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,584,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="26425981" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 04 Mar 2010 18:20:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:20:38 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: Kevin Wilcox Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5d6848b01003041412n5022ba61la7f41049dbf93db3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8E5AC8.5020008@bbconsult.co.uk> <20100304015032.GA21561@orion.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> <5d6848b01003041412n5022ba61la7f41049dbf93db3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Virtualbox on Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:49:40 -0000 --On Thursday, March 04, 2010 17:12:26 -0500 Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 4 March 2010 14:15, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I'm trying to build it from ports right now and running into all sorts of >> issues with qt4 stuff. > > This doesn't exactly inspire confidence when it comes time for me to > do my next round of updates. > > I remember running into an issue with qt when building Virtualbox but > I *believe* a forced removal of everything qt related and letting it > start the process from scratch fixed the issue. > > I'll keep better notes next time :-\ I'm running portupgrade now. (It's been a while.) If that doesn't fix it, I'll try to forced deletion of everything qt and see if that fixes it. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 01:25:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8CC106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 01:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D8F8FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 01:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.43]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:25:40 -0800 Message-ID: <4B905D8B.3090708@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:25:31 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <201003041717.o24HHkVT027574@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <201003041717.o24HHkVT027574@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 01:25:40.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4B9D530:01CABC02] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:25:41 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > I have hit one of these impenetrable walls in which nothing > seems to work but I know it should. I have tried several > versions of /boot.config to no avail. The idea is exactly the > same principle as described in depenguinator which is software > that lets one use grub in Linux to install FreeBSD on a working > Linux system. The idea is to steal the swap partition, put mfsboot > there, and then tell grub to boot from that partition rather than the > normal active one. > > The manual for boot.config makes me think I should be > able to just put in the information describing the secondary > partition and it should cause a boot from that one but: > > /boot.config: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P > > FreeBSD/i386 boot > Default: 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader > boot: > error 1 lba 0 > No /boot/loader > > The mfsboot image works when started from the primary > partition so I am stuck as to why boot.config is not starting > from that secondary partition. > The present boot.config is: > > 1:ad(0,b)/boot/loader -P > > If mfsbsd was starting, shouldn't it see its boot > loader? > > Is there a mfsbsd discussion list? Surely, somebody else > has hit this brick wall, also. > > From what I read in this freebsd.org article http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/index.html There is hard coded logic that is stopping you from doing what you want. Looks like you are SOL. Booting mfsBSD Now that the mfsBSD image is ready, it must be uploaded to the remote system running a live rescue system or pre-installed Linux® distribution. The most suitable tool for this task is scp: # scp disk.img root@192.168.0.2:. To boot mfsBSD image properly, it must be placed on the first (bootable) device of the given machine. This may be accomplished using this example providing that sda is the first bootable disk device: # dd if=/root/disk.img of=/dev/sda bs=1m If all went well, the image should now be in the MBR of the first device and the machine can be rebooted. Watch for the machine to boot up properly with the ping(8) tool. Once it has came back on-line, it should be possible to access it over ssh(1) as user root with the configured password. The mfsbsd process has new maintainer, Martin Matuska Email him for help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 05:35:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDA41065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 05:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643BA8FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 05:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so361937yxe.16 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:34:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=PORELmXpqLzUXB9/G3eIaDnhWtLUqcu1UyDHceZd7MI=; b=An+9V2BLvjQp3tge++LtuWlUuQntsJcDX0+kMr235aAXJ9ow0NK9FqLjS080PT3pQe 9irbyuq279nDqvpM7R+DqhIelD6wD1LNtQeNTgHTC4WT0KmkJ9IG9FeVZ0qwx3VHbUjJ rXT4Basf6tZMDyrbAUy4TRTbz/w0RVk/FodUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; b=R4x+hJ/4B6StoG+DHaCT6GaV4Gbq+vXY1UOc17GkTAR1TtXIvkH41NmyI8WiQd9nEE eSU1uG8uono0A3A3NI8QwE1lXv8nrAF9WIDC9U6LRC3gFtBCkIDBjDV+yYrNAcSNZFJk aLkgrBt0wDNJtX+pLH/gY7c+HDvzDjIJHxcJY= Received: by 10.100.24.28 with SMTP id 28mr1092186anx.220.1267765961585; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.83.127.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.83.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm429866ywe.37.2010.03.04.21.12.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:12:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:14:15 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:35:00 -0000 Hi all, I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. Now I want to use only FBSD for web browsing and don't want to use Windows. I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 while remaining KDE unchanged. I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed. Shockwave/Adobe/Macromedia flash viewers are not shipped with FBSD CD. It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I tried installing from ports. - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.xxxx - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) But they do not fix the problem. Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 05:58:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE581065670 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 05:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1F38FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 05:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.11]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9047D1DCD3; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:58:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o255wbLT003834; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:58:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:58:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Pongthep Kulkrisada Message-Id: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:58:40 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:14:15 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. > Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 > while remaining KDE unchanged. Do you have compat7x installed? If you already updated to OS 8.0, you should update your ports tree, too, and use the current ports. > I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. An excellent web browser. Good choice. :-) > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. Sad... but with HTML 5, it may be a chance that the "web world" can finally say goodbye to this idiotic "Flash" that is mostly used by inexperienced or lazy "Internet programmers" (they often call theirselves that way) to make the web intendedly unaccessible... as if the web would consist of "Flash" only... > I tried installing from ports. > - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.xxxx > - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 > - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) > But they do not fix the problem. Just installing isn't enough, there's some configuration work to be done. By the way, you may be interested in checking how gnash (a GNU based "Flash" implementation) or swfdec may fit your needs. > Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. Sure. Maybe the handbook can help here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html See 6.2.3 for detailed information. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 06:14:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B7F1065676 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout09.t-online.de (mailout09.t-online.de [194.25.134.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40388FC0C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd09.aul.t-online.de (fwd09.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1NnQnZ-0003QU-GD; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:14:09 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (XdwFD6Z-8h6lHesrJfY3aBNm3dPmjbC-RtCZ3Ji6Rn2tDq5g1F98aqj4XvV-K98gXu@[79.218.108.95]) by fwd09.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1NnQnT-0YIzIW0; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:14:03 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o256FfKX037333; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:15:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o256FfRe037332; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:15:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:15:40 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: Pongthep Kulkrisada Message-ID: <20100305061540.GD9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: XdwFD6Z-8h6lHesrJfY3aBNm3dPmjbC-RtCZ3Ji6Rn2tDq5g1F98aqj4XvV-K98gXu X-TOI-MSGID: 9388a987-9202-4b4a-9cdf-d7d59708e4ac Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:14:11 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: [...] > I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. > I tried installing from ports. > - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.xxxx > - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 > - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) > But they do not fix the problem. > Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. I have installed emulators/linux_base-f10, www/linux-opera-10.10 and linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45 on a 7.2 FreeBSD an can now look at and listen to flash movies on youtube and other sites. Sabine -- /"\ \ / ASCII ribbon campaign X against HTML in mail and news / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 07:12:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD94106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4348FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so1846254vws.13 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:12:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=33vwEyFGghMopY9BJ7pe3obpVFTsrOpefcxGBL2F88A=; b=sV/wp3RK4i5Pe+2o0ip6Z22d4YLq8CcoySeB76b+ODP0a8f+s313EEDXnH6Ey9mwSo zlTCo4/tiT5IHLHReSBp5XX3xFkXOiEmTj28lgqrcMKwS7HTTQSvDtUjN2/k8pDruhHy P2gOepqH/klT+fLFwbLGTl2u5hqNsLZ1tCVAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HGZXTvpd3zdnqe/4fvN2yuBbfmSoR6QM4LW88nCmiU7g0loxPQYQ777lB0Kcv/wMa2 mWcBjaGGqajP/Iex6AmFImfBqzLB989TdbrYt5zFkR8lngdBjq048aoGCfTeK0HxWDIj jGXTsFhK72dK+RFNTkbH6/zInVDLwIWVM/3X8= Received: by 10.220.126.208 with SMTP id d16mr346676vcs.20.1267773122413; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm13252838vws.6.2010.03.04.23.11.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:12:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B90AEC0.1030605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:12:00 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OT: how to reset high scores on gnome games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:12:09 -0000 See subject From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 07:20:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA15106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA988FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:20:23 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=SSsvf/O1Q0KCadi5QJOBMtr9g7DiulVAKwVjvp7qJuuKlRmb11zMUE3sQCh5pZ5dJqa85kNP3gwkcYYPrvzqQ8b9mca59tBtiDVpQW/CAaxLf+q61bQyJx8hAFFEoS1t; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:65021) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NnRpb-000Loy-8V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:20:19 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:20:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:1) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:20:24 -0000 On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:13:36 Matthew Seaman wrote: > You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING > instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set > DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: > > # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* > > Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for > newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of > non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few > weeks.) Has this absolutely ludicrous change not been reverted with extreme prejudice yet? And is there a PR where we can add interesting suggestions as to what miseries should be inflicted on the person responsible for it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 09:54:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E86E106564A; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31038FC26; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnUEi-00037g-KS; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:54:24 +0100 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o259sOdJ003071; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:54:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o259sIaW003070; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:54:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:54:18 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100305095418.GA3022@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: video cam with room view for FreeBSD && Skype X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:54:28 -0000 Hello, To do normal Skype session (face2face) I'm using a USB video cam mounted on top of the lid of my laptop which is good supported by the pwc kernel module: Mar 5 09:39:57 current kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 Mar 5 09:39:57 current kernel: pwc0: on usbus4 Mar 5 09:39:58 current kernel: pwc0: This camera is equipped with a Sony CCD sensor + TDA8787 (32) I would like to have a bigger model to do the same with a group of colleagues on my side, i.e. put the cam 3-4 meter away from the table. Does someone knows a good model for doing that, wall or table mounted and with a long USB cable, and supported in FreeBSD 8-CURRENT? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the imperialistic Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con el imperialismo de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 10:53:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D421F1065670 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05AA8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so1374680ywh.14 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:52:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.168.31 with SMTP id v31mr2046513ano.152.1267786374382; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:52:54 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Pongthep Kulkrisada Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:53:02 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed. > Shockwave/Adobe/Macromedia flash viewers are not shipped with FBSD CD. I'm running OpenSolaris/x86 as guest in VirtualBox on FreeBSD/amd64 for that, since Adobe provides a Flash plugin for this platform. It's not an ideal solution and pretty heavy on resources, but at least it works for the very rare occasions I absolutely need Flash support (I usually tend to avoid sites that depend exclusively on Flash anyway). > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. > I tried installing from ports. > - opera-linuxplugins-10.10.xxxx > - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 > - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it stands for ``flash for linux''.) > But they do not fix the problem. > Anyone who can fix this problem please point me out. > > Thanks, > Pongthep Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 10:59:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFC31065686 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50ECA8FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so1934218gwa.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:59:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ZOyvBBs3RRmqZagjnBjkTMcP1ht9BTS5IRDT1CGfDfg=; b=IRZqzuKHLRZJwtOdPQUYpIXwlHT0HKOGS+A10QUBxPDSNZEw8DYKFWO/E6KLAFGJ2A nUiUNevczQKbaKFRy3vy8q04RqQus84cZlN+wHirWrYDQ5Z4urQdd8aeU85tORPok0Hn fX6aFarGMc6Pqkb0DRMBvIanWk2LYkWGRW9pw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=DViEeNz3RvXUnWrwyc70G1J4Xwpra+zWWpaz0NhlrPkkDtvEGhZsUXsZ0Dw3fNGtD2 EvYWyInHEmy9Es5iqtNotXT4qbDbcfMpMkexkp7E6ez/p5YvtvHk2izMDtwlHE7c1CT8 dDMJgRaoNdW0jZCCI/yQ5QwzP72QD+rnke1Uk= Received: by 10.101.36.14 with SMTP id o14mr2169316anj.28.1267786749514; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.83.127.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.83.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1347737iwn.14.2010.03.05.02.59.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:59:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:00:49 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Polytropon , Sabine Baer , Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , Sabine Baer , Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:59:23 -0000 * Polytropon (freebsd@edvax.de) wrote: > Do you have compat7x installed? No I don't. > If you already updated to OS 8.0, > you should update your ports tree, too, and > use the current ports. I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all. > Just installing isn't enough, there's some configuration work > to be done. I don't know kinda GUI, so I don't know how to configure it. Please point me to some tutorial. > By the way, you may be interested in checking how gnash > (a GNU based "Flash" implementation) or swfdec may fit > your needs. I shall check. > Sure. Maybe the handbook can help here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > See 6.2.3 for detailed information. Okay, but I don't want to install firefox. I'm much familiar with opera esp. mouse gesturing. The handbook says very little about Opera. * Sabine Baer (baerks@t-online.de) wrote: > I have installed > emulators/linux_base-f10, > www/linux-opera-10.10 and > linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45 > on a 7.2 FreeBSD an can now look at and listen to flash movies on > youtube and other sites. This seems very likely. But I have already done exactly what you described (but on FBSD 8.0). Still not OK. I can not even start linux-opera. For you diagnostic, When starting from console, it complains ... % linux-opera shm_allow_removed is disable, set OPERA_NUM_XSHM to 0 to disable shared memory. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. /usr/local/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory % * Robert Bonomi (bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) wrote: > needless to say, you have to have linux emulation build int (or kdloaded) > in your kernel. > > *and* the linux emulation package ( name is {mumble}-fc10, for 'Fedora Core 10' ) > installed. > > *then* you can install the other packages. I have selected linux emulation since I installed it from CD. And it is still enabled in /etc/rc.conf. Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 11:00:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BC9106567C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-iw0-f188.google.com (mail-iw0-f188.google.com [209.85.223.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30D18FC13 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn26 with SMTP id 26so2578464iwn.9 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:00:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.151.212 with SMTP id d20mr1462174ibw.53.1267786803264; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:00:03 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:00:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:00:10 -0000 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> However, when I run: >> >> =A0 portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* >> >> I get this problem: >> >> ---> =A0Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) >> ---> =A0Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' >> =3D=3D=3D> =A0Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 >> >> =3D=3D=3D> =A0perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): >> =A0 =A0 =A0 perl-5.8.9_3 >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 They install files into the same place. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). >> *** Error code 1 >> >> >> I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that wh= at the '-f' >> arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? > > You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING > instructions were written. =A0To work around it, you need to set > DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: > > =A0 # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=3Dyes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8= \.* THANK YOU! This is *exactly* what was holding me up from upgrading to Perl 5.10. > Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for > newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of > non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few > weeks.) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 11:19:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2488C106567F; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F161C8FC29; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C21646B2C; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:19:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:19:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: sean connolly In-Reply-To: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Dan Naumov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:19:05 -0000 On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, sean connolly wrote: > Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be > caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run > before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. Hi Sean, Dan, et al: I'm not sure I agree with this view. For releases, it's true that many reported panics are a result of bad hardware. However, on active development branches, especially -CURRENT, that's not the case. An automated scheme to track bug reports and find common themes could be incredibly valuable in the development environment. And, to be honest, even if a fair number of reports are due to hardware failures, these often have common themes themselves, so it would be quite educational to be able to reason about panics on a large scale. Not to mention using it to identify potentially flakey hardware that users could then be warned about :-). Collecting crash reports is widespread in industry for both operating systems and applications for these reasons. Certainly, the crashinfo summary gathered on recent FreeBSD versions is an excellent starting point for building such a system. If we were to move ahead with it, we'd need to pay very close attention to scrubbing potentially sensitive information from panic reports, however. Robert > > Sean > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jhell > To: Dan Naumov > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:06:50 AM > Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: >> Hello >> >> I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: >> http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has >> there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash >> reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the >> information required by developers for investigating panics and >> similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and >> anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. >> >> >> - Sincerely, >> Dan Naumov >> > > Hi Dan, > > I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable="YES" is not what you > are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? > > The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for > developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? > > Regards, > > -- > > jhell > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 11:31:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0F2106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 248508FC24 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Mar 2010 11:31:28 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp059) with SMTP; 05 Mar 2010 12:31:28 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IhqRdr3TIhkkSLnuyj4ZgTY9t8pHAqFgby46/H8 D8sGiMEkNy0+vA Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:31:27 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20100305113127.GB1157@sandcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54000000000000004 Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:31:31 -0000 On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 01:33:52PM +0100, Piotr Lukawski wrote: > Dears, > I need to install Freebsd 8.0 using floppy and then ftp, but there are no > floppy images in > +ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/mentioned > in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html > I tried so install Freebsd 7 using availiable floppy (successful) and update > it to 8.0 (after 3 days finally error and now now whole /usr directory so I > am stacked). > Could you please produce install floppy images for Freebsd 8.0? Please > please please. I have no power to do the install of 7, upgrade and fail > again :-( > Thanks in adavance. > Piotr > _______________________________________________ Yes, I definitly vote for the release of floppy images too! In my case its the SCSI-CD drives what do not allow me to boot from a CD. It might be old fashioned, but its very easy just to boot the floppy and then install all over ftp! I guess there are still a couple of systems (old +laptops, servers) which require it. Thanks herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:18:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895DA106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc3-s11.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s11.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514088FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP20 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s11.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:06:04 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.226.147] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from aodai.collidiamo.net ([151.49.226.147]) by BLU0-SMTP20.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:06:04 -0800 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:05:37 +0100 From: daniele User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , Sabine Baer , Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 12:06:04.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[3AFEA320:01CABC5C] Cc: Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:18:06 -0000 On 03/05/10 12:00, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > * Polytropon (freebsd@edvax.de) wrote: >> Do you have compat7x installed? > No I don't. > >> If you already updated to OS 8.0, >> you should update your ports tree, too, and >> use the current ports. > I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all. > >> Just installing isn't enough, there's some configuration work >> to be done. > I don't know kinda GUI, so I don't know how to configure it. > Please point me to some tutorial. > >> By the way, you may be interested in checking how gnash >> (a GNU based "Flash" implementation) or swfdec may fit >> your needs. > I shall check. > >> Sure. Maybe the handbook can help here: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html >> >> See 6.2.3 for detailed information. > Okay, but I don't want to install firefox. > I'm much familiar with opera esp. mouse gesturing. > The handbook says very little about Opera. > * Sabine Baer (baerks@t-online.de) wrote: >> I have installed >> emulators/linux_base-f10, >> www/linux-opera-10.10 and >> linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45 >> on a 7.2 FreeBSD an can now look at and listen to flash movies on >> youtube and other sites. > This seems very likely. > But I have already done exactly what you described (but on FBSD 8.0). > Still not OK. I can not even start linux-opera. For you diagnostic, > When starting from console, it complains ... > % linux-opera HI ! I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin. Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress browser & plugin. Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin work for firefox and opera (basically I followed the handbook). --- Installed /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10 --- kldload linux --- mount linprocfs --- installed /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10/ (--- installed /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper) (--- ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ ) (--- as normal user I executed nspluginwrapper ... etc) --- installed ___NATIVE FREEBSD version___ of Opera [/usr/ports/www/opera] --- installed /usr/ports/www/opera-linuxplugins/. d > shm_allow_removed is disable, set OPERA_NUM_XSHM to 0 to disable shared memory. > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. > /usr/local/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > % > > * Robert Bonomi (bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) wrote: >> needless to say, you have to have linux emulation build int (or kdloaded) >> in your kernel. >> >> *and* the linux emulation package ( name is {mumble}-fc10, for 'Fedora Core 10' ) >> installed. >> >> *then* you can install the other packages. > I have selected linux emulation since I installed it from CD. > And it is still enabled in /etc/rc.conf. > > Thanks, > Pongthep > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:47:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941C0106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invites@sexyono.com) Received: from m3.sexyono.com (m3.sexyono.com [216.139.255.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760D38FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=k1; d=sexyono.com; b=JAGf0INLQuwi8hxYW+F2q4TAKpYzcXwujgLd9uCOeDZz7BiHvnpQ0Kw+kV80yEfLy4wAzYclatH8 2/tKrFxpzP6rguigCEnH+0R7W31tMruGq6et1Bfg696YyUSTDHY5xFKGYDDWY+zNE7gx9/sMYSqH yz7ZBnR2YFamfxIZpCk=; Received: by m3.sexyono.com id hi3ulo0k02sp for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:37:10 +0000 (envelope-from ) Sender: invites@sexyono.com From: rafael_elias_sarras@hotmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20100305124724.941C0106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Actualic=E9_mi_foto_en_=22SEXY_o_NO=3F=22?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:47:24 -0000 Hoy actualicé mi foto en "SEXY o NO?". 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:54:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FE4106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C038FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25Cskih015085 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:54:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25CskbL015084 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:54:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:54:46 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:54:47 -0000 My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf rule in cases like this? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:54:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15881065674 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AD28FC52 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2562890fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:54:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=nqTTcjhFNKVv1XWbuRO9h6sXrVcT3Rk/mKarwIU8+Fs=; b=FLzRAEqVbwXfXgXPs1XD5HVO2a2rUNXerhNxaj0uVc5GBQC6Gp2H+mg4yLQSuWbqQs wfqy+hM7dzn50ABUMqVEw1RqbIcWs4bGPTyP+w90717z9IwOcolrN5avbL4Q/ICQfx7V tlWJ8Ezoy8vRYO/lUJy65QyQ4JdV9Oz+cWRzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=lAoBkLftJasi8sdjt7vjeyxlL90Igs30kGD2sZmrlYspxR4oB1MpAjyPzVYCki+uFT tmuEWoBYRv71dyPxlktU7ZD0Xfo4hnYADE3cuEHhSX/tjrgfqEJl/yxAHKfZHfTug65S MO3mLxq9TSz6RBuZLlg9zuC+wthiWZL5IGYkc= Received: by 10.103.87.2 with SMTP id p2mr11068mul.7.1267793686945; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from komp.skl (xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl [84.40.169.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm1125686bwz.2.2010.03.05.04.54.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: Zbigniew Komarnicki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:54:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003051354.43812.cblasius@gmail.com> Subject: Can't install kde3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:54:53 -0000 Hello, I try to install kde3 after fresh install FreeBSD 8.0 and freebsd-update to FreeBSD 8.0 p2 on i386 athlon-xp 1660 MHz, but with no success. Here is the output: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde3 # make install clean ===> Installing for kde-3.5.10_3 ===> kde-3.5.10_3 depends on executable: kjumpingcube - found ===> kde-3.5.10_3 depends on executable: kdessh - found ===> kde-3.5.10_3 depends on executable: kword - found ===> kde-3.5.10_3 depends on executable: kget - not found ===> Verifying install for kget in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork3 ===> Installing for kdenetwork-3.5.10_2 ===> kdenetwork-3.5.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc - found ===> kdenetwork-3.5.10_2 depends on executable: kopete - not found ===> Verifying install for kopete in /usr/ports/net-im/kopete ===> Building for kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8_3 Making all in libkopete gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete' Making all in private gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete/private' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete/private' Making all in ui gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete/ui' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete/ui' Making all in . gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete' gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete' Making all in avdevice gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete/avdevice' /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../.. -I../../../kopete/protocols/gadu/libgadu -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -DKDE_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_CAST_ASCII -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -I../../../kopete/libkopete -I../../../kopete/libkopete -I../../../kopete/libkopete/avdevice -I../../../kopete/libkopete/ui -I../../../kopete/libkopete/ui -I../../../kopete/libkopete/private -I../../../kopete/libkopete/ui -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -D_THREAD_SAFE -pthread -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_LARGE_FILES=1 -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mtune=native -march=athlon-xp -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -MT videodevice.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/videodevice.Tpo -c -o videodevice.lo videodevice.cpp In file included from /usr/local/include/linux/videodev.h:17, from videodevice.h:61, from videodevice.cpp:27: /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h:67: error: declaration does not declare anything /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h:72: error: declaration does not declare anything videodevice.cpp: In member function 'void Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::enumerateMenu()': videodevice.cpp:70: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'Kopete::AV::pixel_format Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::setPixelFormat(Kopete::AV::pixel_format)': videodevice.cpp:800: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'int Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::selectInput(int)': videodevice.cpp:863: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'int Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::setInputParameters()': videodevice.cpp:909: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'float Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getBrightness()': videodevice.cpp:1465: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'float Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getContrast()': videodevice.cpp:1535: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'float Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getSaturation()': videodevice.cpp:1605: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'float Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getWhiteness()': videodevice.cpp:1675: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'float Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getHue()': videodevice.cpp:1745: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'bool Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getAutoBrightnessContrast()': videodevice.cpp:1816: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'bool Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::setAutoBrightnessContrast(bool)': videodevice.cpp:1825: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'bool Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getAutoColorCorrection()': videodevice.cpp:1837: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'bool Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::setAutoColorCorrection(bool)': videodevice.cpp:1846: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'bool Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::getImageAsMirror()': videodevice.cpp:1857: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions videodevice.cpp: In member function 'bool Kopete::AV::VideoDevice::setImageAsMirror(bool)': videodevice.cpp:1866: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions gmake[2]: *** [videodevice.lo] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete/avdevice' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net-im/kopete/work/kdenetwork-3.5.10/kopete/libkopete' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-im/kopete. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-im/kopete. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde3. # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 12:56:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F100E106567C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6B188FC22 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29814 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 2010 12:56:53 -0000 Received: from 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:56:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig725174FA0338953555C9E663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did manage to get freebsd-update to run, after a sort. Now my system identifies as FreeBSD heaven 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Tue Jan 5 16:02:27 UTC 2010 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 When I go to the ftp server to do any sort of updates (like using sysinstall to install the kernel source so I can install pwcbsd via ports), it tells me that 8.0-RELEASE-p2 isn't on the server (doesn't matter which one I choose). Will there be any issues if, via sysinstall, I set the release to "any" (as suggested in the dialog box in sysinstall when it fails to find an FTP server with the proper release)? freebsd-update also has issues retrieving the proper stuff (it updated the release, grabbed some files and then errors out): freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE-p2 upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-RELEASE from update4.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic world/base world/dict world/doc world/games world/manpages The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: src/base src/bin src/cddl src/contrib src/crypto src/etc src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin src/usbin world/catpages world/info world/proflibs Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-RELEASE-p2 from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-RELEASE-p2 from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-RELEASE-p2 from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. 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Here is the output: # cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4 # make install clean ===> Installing for kde4-4.3.5 ===> kde4-4.3.5 depends on package: kdeaccessibility>=4 - found ===> kde4-4.3.5 depends on package: kdeadmin>=4 - not found ===> Verifying install for kdeadmin>=4 in /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin4 ===> Installing for kdeadmin-4.3.5 ===> kdeadmin-4.3.5 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/share/apps/system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/share/apps/system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py in /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer-kde ===> system-config-printer-kde-4.3.5_2 depends on executable: system-config-printer - not found ===> Verifying install for system-config-printer in /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer ===> Building for system-config-printer-1.0.16_1 Making all in po gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16/po' gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16/po' gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16' xmlto man -o man man/system-config-printer.xml xmlto: /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16/man/system-config-printer.xml does not validate (status 3) xmlto: Fix document syntax or use --skip-validation option I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16/man/system-config-printer.xml:3: warning: failed to load external entity "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd"> ^ I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd warning: failed to load external entity "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" validity error : Could not load the external subset "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd" Document /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16/man/system-config-printer.xml does not validate gmake[1]: *** [man/system-config-printer.1] Error 13 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/system-config-printer/work/system-config-printer-1.0.16' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/system-config-printer-kde. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:02:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9F5106564A for ; 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Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from komp.skl (xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl [84.40.169.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm545174bwz.13.2010.03.05.05.02.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:02:03 -0800 (PST) From: Zbigniew Komarnicki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:02:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003051402.02343.cblasius@gmail.com> Subject: Can't install octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:02:10 -0000 Hello, I try to install octave (kde3, kde4 in erlier post) after fresh install FreeBSD 8.0 and freebsd-update to FreeBSD 8.0 p2 on i386 athlon-xp 1660 MHz, but with no success. I forgot to add that I csup-ed the ports tree today. Here is the output: # make install clean ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on executable: gnuplot - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/gperf - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on executable: gsed - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on executable: dvips - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on executable: gcc44 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.62 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: fftw3 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: glpk.27 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: hdf5 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: umfpack.1 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: qhull - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: arpack - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: qrupdate - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: fftw3f - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: fftw3 - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: ftgl - found ===> octave-3.2.4 depends on shared library: fltk - not found ===> Verifying install for fltk in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk ===> Building for fltk-1.1.9_2 === making src === Compiling filename_list.cxx... filename_list.cxx: In function 'int fl_filename_list(const char*, dirent***, int (*)(dirent**, dirent**))': filename_list.cxx:59: error: invalid conversion from 'int (*)(const dirent**, const dirent**)' to 'int (*)(const void*, const void*)' filename_list.cxx:59: error: initializing argument 4 of 'int scandir(const char*, dirent***, int (*)(dirent*), int (*)(const void*, const void*))' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/work/fltk-1.1.9/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/work/fltk-1.1.9. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/octave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:04:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393B4106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01BD98FC21 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9097 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 2010 13:04:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2010 13:04:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=ewlVgq8DIHMlgCFo0TCb8U+zf9F0NlS9TwFZoX5CVFJMgzsESowum3BJMQwFfsdwGVCzUI8zcMyGsKye2k7xVHifb3lcxur4KcjD60dBoy2TFXZnV39Qk5KkxYkut5JM; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnXCa-0007I5-5X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:04:24 -0700 Message-ID: <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:03:53 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDE492454978279EA24394AB7" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:04:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDE492454978279EA24394AB7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/05/10 06:54, John wrote: > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes > in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually > "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to > a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every > day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't > just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh > to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf > rule in cases like this? Can you not deny all ssh attempts and then allow only from certain, trusted IPs? --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enigDE492454978279EA24394AB7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLkQFRAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0XlAH/1ZXuk4JJgxOvuMpojeV13Vh M4uI288DCbk4+5UjSEu0klnvA/hreg7x40EkqCdkj+FDePjXRTZxDp4W+tf5e0Nd 7LZxrzjVNNmDrBCbXjwYchT0p+GQzM41nZudF0zx7OSQXOO1xGxaKZu7GmmuFEHa Fuo+Qnmzbx4HI3dd+IWJ4QweLeh2FEJJxP0agjlLPnZPs1CaPdfN0xjLTByqUbij BRC6jK0gyJP1KxGOww3PFe5XRf0GccxuetqFSEn5RFshDdW1OcThEioH8JDDEQpN D9lqaWQPI4y6jK9NPEwhlDBCMMzZdg3r0vguDjeVYP4Baoe37r/xjvRa0LI7q3o= =BudN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDE492454978279EA24394AB7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:06:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782AA1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102AB8FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2575295fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HimUtKdUw6Et9ZDD54SXJTfTmxBV3MVCORh5kr3U05s=; b=HDxovUNBdwizk/C2Z8iUhYL5uhCIT1Ew48Z6ZzYKeoyIk5Olyl8yMhCqxnQqmWJfX8 skqpwbrM0CjNCG4iy70AIo56BtmpzyIO+3qmueHAdhe9WZGYUr8RttxnhPRrPF5fdtt0 7qDCPbqkyxYaZT+MJstIdBBnBWiD8bne+AmG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VfibB9HoxEbriDY1jaL+if4A0NhZGugLi2bCujG3jjocS4KqHtMPlKUCFuzuGOBx0+ SADPmDdJG/R/pl4YH6UYxtr2RCfgDbfKAu4eL3Xy7G53cIyT6Zf34L/4IaFAli7xjRrK Vn+iwi6FxrGR66qdUrTznK5Vat9+TtEjokZco= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.137.211 with SMTP id m19mr18457hbm.34.1267794394000; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:06:12 +0200 Message-ID: To: John Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:06:40 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:54 PM, John wrote: > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes > in them. =A0One day, over 6500. =A0This is enough that I can actually > "feel" it in my network performance. =A0Other than changing ssh to > a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? =A0Every > day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't > just put in a static firewall rule. =A0Is there a way to get ssh > to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf > rule in cases like this? > -- > > John Lind > john@starfire.MN.ORG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Look at security/blocksshd and security/denyhosts Also changing SSH to a non-standard port helps - a lot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:13:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCE8106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0BD8FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2010 08:13:32 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LLP72650; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2010 08:12:53 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19345.852.647315.197426@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:12:52 -0500 To: John In-Reply-To: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:13:33 -0000 John writes: > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh > probes in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can > actually "feel" it in my network performance. Other than > changing ssh to a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with > these? Every day, they originate from several different IP > addresses, so I can't just put in a static firewall rule. Is > there a way to get ssh to quit responding to a port or a way to > generate a dynamic pf rule in cases like this? There are several solutions in the ports system; I use security/denyhosts. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:26:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEAA106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978CD8FC15 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25DQ4Ni015531; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:26:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25DQ4fa015530; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:26:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:26:04 -0600 From: John To: Programmer In Training Message-ID: <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:26:05 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:03:53AM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: > On 03/05/10 06:54, John wrote: > > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes > > in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually > > "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to > > a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every > > day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't > > just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh > > to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf > > rule in cases like this? > > Can you not deny all ssh attempts and then allow only from certain, > trusted IPs? Ah, I should have added that I travel a fair amount, and often have to get to my systems via hotel WiFi or Aircard, so it's impossible to predict my originating IP address in advance. If that were not the case, this would be an excellent suggestion. > -- > Yours In Christ, > > PIT > Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. > Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org > Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:34:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3433F106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D1D8FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C0810E77C; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:36:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5I51RrQFXMmh; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:36:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE7B10E50A; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:36:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B910875.6070403@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:34:45 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:34:54 -0000 On 2010-03-05 13:54, John wrote: > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes > in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually > "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to > a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every > day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't > just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh > to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf > rule in cases like this? I use the pf firewall with sshguard. You'll see from the daily security how well it blocks :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:41:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01DD1065673 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B67B8FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2612240fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.94.200 with SMTP id a8mr948766fan.86.1267796504786; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ROOT ([91.187.14.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm2694382fks.22.2010.03.05.05.41.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:41:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:41:52 +0200 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> To: John In-Reply-To: <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re[2]: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:41:54 -0000 Hello John, I would suggest you just block ssh acces for everyone. But, to allow acces for yourself - you could install wonderfull utility = 'knock-knock'. It listen on specified ports (they could be closed), and, on receiving p= redefined knock-knock (for example - 2 knocks in 9000 tcp port, one knock t= o 8000 port, one at 27145 tcp port and final at 29000 udp port) it dynamica= lly inserts rule in =E7=E0 (=F8=F2 my case, ipfw) ruleset, which allows acc= ess for host which knocks http://www.marksanborn.net/linux/add-port-knocking-= to-ssh-for-extra-security/ Friday, March 5, 2010, 3:26:04 PM, you wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:03:53AM -0600, Progr= ammer In Training wrote: >> On 03/05/10 06:54, John wrote: >> > My nightly security logs have thousand= s upon thousands of ssh probes >> > in them. One day, over 6500. &nb= sp;This is enough that I can actually >> > "feel" it in my network performance. &= nbsp;Other than changing ssh to >> > a non-standard port - is there a way t= o deal with these? Every >> > day, they originate from several diffe= rent IP addresses, so I can't >> > just put in a static firewall rule. &n= bsp;Is there a way to get ssh >> > to quit responding to a port or a way = to generate a dynamic pf >> > rule in cases like this? >> Can you not deny all ssh attempts and then = allow only from certain, >> trusted IPs? > Ah, I should have added that I travel a fair am= ount, and often > have to get to my systems via hotel WiFi or Air= card, so it's > impossible to predict my originating IP address= in advance. If > that were not the case, this would be an excell= ent suggestion. >> -- >> Yours In Christ, >> PIT >> Emails are not formal business letters, wha= tever businesses may want. >> Original content copyright under the OWL&nb= sp;[1]http://owl.apot= heon.org >> Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a li= st it is because I am subscribed. -- Best regards, Anton = ; [2]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"http://owl.apotheon.org"/ 2. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 13:43:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6222A1065678; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307EB8FC24; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDE8D46B45; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4A0C48A021; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:43:31 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:57:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003050757.26890.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:43:31 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Dan Naumov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sean connolly Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:43:44 -0000 On Thursday 04 March 2010 8:50:56 am sean connolly wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. That's not quite true. Many hardware failure-type panics look the same (a machine check exception panic, an NMI due to a hardware error (this has a unique panic message), or panics in pmap_remove*() on x86 cover the vast majority of them). My previous employer actually did track panics using a script like crashinfo, and I was able to categorize known panics by looking for signatures in stack backtraces or other panic messages. > ________________________________ > From: jhell > To: Dan Naumov > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers ; freebsd- questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 8:06:50 AM > Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 07:09, dan.naumov@ wrote: > > Hello > > > > I noticed the following on the FreeBSD website: > > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ideas.html#p-autoreport Has > > there been any progress/work done on the automated kernel crash > > reporting system? The current ways of enabling and gathering the > > information required by developers for investigating panics and > > similar issues are unintuitive and user-hostile to say the least and > > anything to automate the process would be a very welcome addition. > > > > > > - Sincerely, > > Dan Naumov > > > > Hi Dan, > > I am assuming that the output of crashinfo_enable="YES" is not what you > are talking about is it ? are you aware of it ? > > The info contained in the crashinfo.txt.N is pretty informative for > developers, maybe your talking about another way of submitting it ? > > Regards, > > -- > > jhell > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 14:20:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66839106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f200.google.com (mail-px0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385368FC19 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi38 with SMTP id 38so19360pxi.27 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:20:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gz8VsSDh980Z1RN8fULxBz1J6/aclv4agBbY3WZqJFk=; b=btm5MAKpTEjjSoyRbNx2QU4HL62IxAsufjkrp4UxdLPxB3JktqIav9pEGsNFsGn9+P MMkCDIqVdGro60Jl8xs3wU4LFLhs5yr/Ra6/5pH3LWL+tUC78r3VUwzHEHMdx/2knm/Z 3M8TWhe/gpnmvtYUzOKdbJwGb6oA8lat38UpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fwdxLdva8YkMORpqKaLYnJp6dVdrK87RVv5N17G0OCZyutE1RrPDUKF0lsa2CkQOA2 5bnx9QGpPrIeRcYJmhdLBnM1okM6xgT/46N/xmIO1wNF5HBMI6Ybp64DR67dfB3urLMH J9fYvonFjxaLSiuwO6rVugfKMciuCoVQ83Kn8= Received: by 10.143.25.20 with SMTP id c20mr672753wfj.86.1267798826369; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([119.163.202.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm1533357pzk.11.2010.03.05.06.20.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:20:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B911334.1040703@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:20:36 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=A476D2E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to get "hints" of software installed by Ports ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:20:30 -0000 Hi, I installed some software from ports today , and it outputs some useful information when finished. e.g where its config file is Due to some mistakes , i lost these "important" information , how do i see it again ? Is there any tricks to show out it directly ? I don't want to install it again .. Any ideas will appreciate ;-) -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 14:25:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886B3106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from b.mail.ru.ac.za (b.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9889E8FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:25:04 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=jA8g6/v2dSksmUEfgQM081hFcbX59JvcFRW627WvoEB/QXKozH35WyKzhbUBC7VYRlsn4/sskzBRH0HX7myE9x4TkAX7E6y1k+8E2anGrkgcX/25w7o4/4skoUor/9Y+; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:56785) by b.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NnYSW-0009Pe-Rk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:24:56 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:24:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4B911334.1040703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B911334.1040703@gmail.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: b.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:2) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: How to get "hints" of software installed by Ports ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:25:05 -0000 On Friday 05 March 2010 16:20:36 Aaron Lewis wrote: > Hi, > > I installed some software from ports today , and it outputs some > useful information when finished. > e.g where its config file is > > Due to some mistakes , i lost these "important" information , how do i > see it again ? Is there any tricks to show out it directly ? I don't want > to install it again .. > > Any ideas will appreciate ;-) pkg_info -D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 14:28:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4210C1065673 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102E28FC1E for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so2659999pwj.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eHtb+H6DXP84+9r+GSECYFP/AjIMUAhDzeQncPlFvaI=; b=dTfjOPKzAgpI/q9514eMMWXlogVzg0MgGPdFxLzBt18y1d0JsRLaKqbtpnrTqXVQOy X+GZOWSWu+aRqQOJYE2BKj6qvMsUbJG5j9IgYwbXNu++a4LT7hPPoGXZfuUCCBR+K0Fz SzePvzKHj60gGrwZRpHIoFIJA6KvND7mHAshQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OK1szyhn/+ttgAfboCL4qkdbYFDA2Cl69wTfoyMl9eTTOuXQNu/jjq49LpGgGzqSWx n1gPpuRMX9OLtd3AWvlWgL+gKID0N7hwXKaju/oW2nhG3LvFieLMAykPK7jbI7hPTIH7 tRJvtafvnXBe2rVY4Q54+n1FElA1bXeZDmLuE= Received: by 10.142.152.14 with SMTP id z14mr632036wfd.252.1267799300998; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([119.163.202.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1535041pzk.1.2010.03.05.06.28.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:28:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B91150E.7010209@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:28:30 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <4B911334.1040703@gmail.com> <201003051624.56569.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201003051624.56569.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=A476D2E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] Re: How to get "hints" of software installed by Ports ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:28:24 -0000 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2010 16:20:36 Aaron Lewis wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I installed some software from ports today , and it outputs some >> useful information when finished. e.g where its config file is >> >> Due to some mistakes , i lost these "important" information , how >> do i see it again ? Is there any tricks to show out it directly ? >> I don't want to install it again .. >> >> Any ideas will appreciate ;-) > > pkg_info -D _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks Jonathan , it helps. -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 14:46:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0706F106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-10.bnguk.net (atmail-10.bnguk.net [80.74.253.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CCB8FC27 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77-44-105-82.xdsl.murphx.net ([77.44.105.82] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-10.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnYnJ-0001Vr-SE; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:46:26 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B22B74AC20; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:46:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:46:25 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Programmer In Training Message-ID: <20100305144625.GA43010@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Programmer In Training , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B9048F9.1060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B9048F9.1060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:46:39 -0000 On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 05:57:45PM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: > > On 03/04/10 17:43, Warren Block wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Polytropon wrote: > > >> As far as I know, earlier X installations came with the > >> tab window manager - twm. This doesn't seem to be the case > >> anymore. > > > > twm is still enabled by default as part of the x11/xorg-apps port. > > I can confirm that, and I too have problems with XDM despite having > 'exec wmaker' in my .xinitrc in my home directory (sometimes XDM will > kick me out to the login, sometimes it will just take me to a blank > session wherein I can do nothing). I'd like to use XDM and have it start > on boot so I'm interested in the outcome of this. If you read the manpage for xdm(1) you will see that the script that is run on login is ~/.xsession Try putting "exec wmaker" in there. To run xdm from boot, you have to edit /etc/ttys and then: # kill -HUP 1 Look at this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:18:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1EB106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0186B8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP87 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:06:22 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.226.147] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from aodai.collidiamo.net ([151.49.226.147]) by BLU0-SMTP87.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:06:21 -0800 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:05:56 +0100 From: daniele User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 15:06:21.0795 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A87A330:01CABC75] Cc: Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to get "hints" of software installed by Ports ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:18:25 -0000 On 03/05/10 15:28, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Jonathan McKeown wrote: >> On Friday 05 March 2010 16:20:36 Aaron Lewis wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I installed some software from ports today , and it outputs some >>> useful information when finished. e.g where its config file is >>> >>> Due to some mistakes , i lost these "important" information , how >>> do i see it again ? Is there any tricks to show out it directly ? >>> I don't want to install it again .. >>> >>> Any ideas will appreciate ;-) >> >> pkg_info -D _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To >> unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks Jonathan , it helps. > Hi you can directly inspect the contents of these files (located in the port folder) --- pkg-message --- pkg-descr for the ports that have them (for example cat /usr/ports/www/firefox/pkg-message) I am not aware of any other sources of useful informations. Maybe almost everything else is sent only to the stdout/stderr ? d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:19:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C30106567C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21FB8FC1D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:19:09 -0500 References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Message-Id: From: mikel king To: John In-Reply-To: <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:19:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:19:21 -0000 On Mar 5, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:03:53AM -0600, Programmer In Training > wrote: >> On 03/05/10 06:54, John wrote: >>> My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes >>> in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually >>> "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to >>> a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every >>> day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't >>> just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh >>> to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf >>> rule in cases like this? >> >> Can you not deny all ssh attempts and then allow only from certain, >> trusted IPs? > > Ah, I should have added that I travel a fair amount, and often > have to get to my systems via hotel WiFi or Aircard, so it's > impossible to predict my originating IP address in advance. If > that were not the case, this would be an excellent suggestion. Way back about 10 years ago, I was playing around with IPFW a lot. I wrote a script to update IPFW from changes made to a MySql db. It was a just for fun project, that turned out to be rather useful I have some developers that I managed who like you were road warriors. They logged in to the https web page w/ their username and password which grabbed their IP address and stored it in a table on with their login id. The script called fud (for firewall update daemon) connected to the db and ran a query to check for any rule changes. If there were it would apply them to the rule set and clear the change flag. Using this combination I was able to allow ssh access only to the necessary ip addresses. I kind of scrapped it when VPNs became easier to deploy and I have no idea where this set of scripts are now, but it would be rather trivial to build a new version. If anyone thinks it's worth revisiting hit me off list. Cheers, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 c: 631.796.1499 skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:22:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389F7106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1F48FC22 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2830 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2010 15:22:12 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Mar 2010 15:22:12 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08C9508A7 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6411A1CCBA; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:22:05 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:22:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:13:36 +0000") Message-ID: <44d3zix082.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:22:13 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING > instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set > DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: > > # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* > > Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for > newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of > non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few > weeks.) It has occurred to me that teaching portupgrade to handle this would be a Simple Matter of Programming. Maybe even a strategy as simple as adding the variable to the make command lines automatically any time '-o' is specified. I wonder whether I could write that change without actually learning ruby... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:24:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAB3106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7749E8FC15 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FD9016F; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:24:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by University of Hamburg (RRZ/mailhost) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YltzUCbu3-c2; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:24:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc861.math.uni-hamburg.de (pc861.math.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.222.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: fmjv004) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9237F90022; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:24:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B912246.7000905@janh.de> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:24:54 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Komarnicki References: <201003051402.02343.cblasius@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201003051402.02343.cblasius@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: Can't install octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:24:53 -0000 On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: > I try to install octave (kde3, kde4 in erlier post) after fresh install > FreeBSD 8.0 and freebsd-update to FreeBSD 8.0 p2 on i386 athlon-xp 1660 MHz, > but with no success. > > I forgot to add that I csup-ed the ports tree today. If I try to rebuild x11-toolkits/fltk, I get the same error. My last build of fltk was done before the last commit to that port. The commit was based on this problem report: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=143638 From the description of that pr: "Note that fltk also has the problem of linking against its older version, so you have to deinstall the old version to do a successful build." I have not tested that as I am in no immediate need to rebuild fltk. HTH, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:33:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EF51065673 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bas@kompasmedia.nl) Received: from mailhost.tue.nl (mailhost.tue.nl [131.155.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259B78FC41 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8954473065 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:33:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Received: from mailhost.tue.nl ([131.155.2.19]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xOrHIChuLIPM for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [131.155.146.116] (KC15319.diensten.tue.nl [131.155.146.116]) by mailhost.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D77973064 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:33:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B912457.5040601@kompasmedia.nl> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:33:43 +0100 From: "Bas v.d. Wiel" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305095418.GA3022@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100305095418.GA3022@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: video cam with room view for FreeBSD && Skype X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:33:46 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > To do normal Skype session (face2face) I'm using a USB video cam mounted on top > of the lid of my laptop which is good supported by the pwc kernel module: > > Mar 5 09:39:57 current kernel: ugen4.2: at usbus4 > Mar 5 09:39:57 current kernel: pwc0: on usbus4 > Mar 5 09:39:58 current kernel: pwc0: This camera is equipped with a Sony CCD sensor + TDA8787 (32) > > I would like to have a bigger model to do the same with a group of > colleagues on my side, i.e. put the cam 3-4 meter away from the table. > Does someone knows a good model for doing that, wall or table mounted > and with a long USB cable, and supported in FreeBSD 8-CURRENT? > > Thx > > matthias > In the past I've had reasonable succes using a standard camcorder over firewire to do things like this. It's been a few years though. If using firewire isn't an issue for you, I'd be happy to delve into my pile of notes and see if I can find you something of a howto. The advantage of a firewire camera is in the much more standardized protocol between PC and camera. Bas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:34:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2D7106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FF28FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25FY586099694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:34:06 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B91246D.8020703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:34:05 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <4B8FDA6A.9090308@tundraware.com> <4B8FDC32.6090204@eskk.nu> <4B8FE844.6060804@tundraware.com> <4B8FEA40.9040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <44d3zix082.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44d3zix082.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Perl 5.8 -> 5.10 On Current Production System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:34:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 15:22:05, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Matthew Seaman writes: > >> You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING >> instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set >> DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: >> >> # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* >> >> Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for >> newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of >> non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few >> weeks.) > > It has occurred to me that teaching portupgrade to handle this would be > a Simple Matter of Programming. Maybe even a strategy as simple as > adding the variable to the make command lines automatically any time > '-o' is specified. > > I wonder whether I could write that change without actually learning ruby... > Probably it's easy enough to do that, but only at the cost of completely turning off the otherwise valuable conflicts checking mechanism. You'ld actually want to be informed of any conflicts /except/ the ones you always get in this sort of operation between the port being replaced and the port replacing it. The fundamental problem is that conflicts checking has been moved to way too early in the sequence -- it even blocks you from downloading the tarballs for any port that conflicts with what you have installed. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRJG0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxqrwCgiP3cq3jDDcJzRYIycSGD3FpL SIsAn1cWMmeFinU6C9UTWdlJWb0LcTxC =+Ede -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:43:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3634D106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27148FC18 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2738794fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:43:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=i57XvK9prNW9hgdZlqltXYl+gyvGbb1aJb+phS3iw58=; b=gfZ10m4VJQ2u4o/5WR6B2yrg7uUCpBJ0fWQGPLxgnmxL4fBr4uyb1Uo8DhvIT59vQI zg19vjploH5ffUIMrrSLHDUqQE4dOMVRJ0TxfUcVp2g4yWL5FkXv+Hz+24g/BcwyMjM6 kcGR7/pH/1pG2UHF0K7XnXgkVR+k5VcXyqOs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FTHTmEjDHiqodxhnwzUgYy2v5PwMZZ68KdiMQYVVFwGfFCQq7eS2SZ+Ied0/tCOhDh RjmwhZh/n5uZN/iOuFl+Y3FrjhT9vivRr4LMgPuDC9ptaLZAT4/J+UudLAMNwQrXtbu8 RA4B37xJQLbQRd1Z476dFRT7+J6+eCF8A7JIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.5.70 with SMTP id 6mr1307550fau.18.1267803814098; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:43:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> From: Anselm Strauss To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Port/package install preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:43:39 -0000 Hi, is it possible to do a real preview with portupgrade? I want to see all ports that would be installed/upgraded when installing a particular port. The --noexecute option doesn't really show me a lot. How would this be done with packages? pkg_add would have to download all packges first to be able to calculate all dependencies, or can it operate on an index file? Anselm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:44:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF9F1065674 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890FC8FC3C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25Fid8t017556; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:44:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25FideE017555; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:44:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:44:39 -0600 From: John To: mikel king Message-ID: <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:44:42 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:19:09AM -0500, mikel king wrote: > > On Mar 5, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John wrote: > > >On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:03:53AM -0600, Programmer In Training > >wrote: > >>On 03/05/10 06:54, John wrote: > >>>My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes > >>>in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually > >>>"feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to > >>>a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every > >>>day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't > >>>just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh > >>>to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf > >>>rule in cases like this? > >> > >>Can you not deny all ssh attempts and then allow only from certain, > >>trusted IPs? > > > >Ah, I should have added that I travel a fair amount, and often > >have to get to my systems via hotel WiFi or Aircard, so it's > >impossible to predict my originating IP address in advance. If > >that were not the case, this would be an excellent suggestion. > > Way back about 10 years ago, I was playing around with IPFW a lot. I > wrote a script to update IPFW from changes made to a MySql db. It was > a just for fun project, that turned out to be rather useful I have > some developers that I managed who like you were road warriors. They > logged in to the https web page w/ their username and password which > grabbed their IP address and stored it in a table on with their login > id. > > The script called fud (for firewall update daemon) connected to the db > and ran a query to check for any rule changes. If there were it would > apply them to the rule set and clear the change flag. Using this > combination I was able to allow ssh access only to the necessary ip > addresses. > > I kind of scrapped it when VPNs became easier to deploy and I have no > idea where this set of scripts are now, but it would be rather trivial > to build a new version. > > If anyone thinks it's worth revisiting hit me off list. Maybe I'll have to learn how to do a VPN from FreeBSD.... One thought that occurs to me is that pf tables would provide a direct API without having to hit a database. I think I really like this. I may have to implement it for pf. It should be really easy with CGI and calls to pfctl. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:45:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6225A106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BE38FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F62B1DE283; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:45:02 -0800 (PST) To: Anton References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.18; tzolkin = 9 Etznab; haab = 16 Kayab Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:45:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> (anton@sng.by's message of "Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:41:52 +0200") Message-ID: <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:45:33 -0000 >>>>> "Anton" == Anton writes: Anton> But, to allow acces for yourself - you could install wonderfull Anton> utility = 'knock-knock'. Port knocking is false security. It's equivalent to adding precisely two bytes (per knock, which can't be too close or far apart or numerous) to the key length. Are you really thinking that increasing your key length from 2048 to 2050 helps? The right solution is proper ssh key management, and intrusion detection, and if you insist on having password access, use one-time passwords and/or strength checks. If you don't like your logfiles filling up, don't run ssh on port 22. I like 443, because corporate firewalls tend to pass that... :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:46:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12131065692; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530FC8FC22; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so710357yxe.16 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:45:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mvmtalmtT0nCKn1rMnp/rROLsmO5R8/khAH2/NkUPnQ=; b=hZLc1i915VG2ZL+LuxzCEC34VYzvrSMobZ5zN4eY0KuuFhAxq7L+IuHiC4llm8xi4b IUEo6NK87raNoGGPzvKGVVzBW8vzQx3BGU2Qa2SIdnYXC0VhU/Z5yn8cRqlYZwed2nJ4 fS9Bk8zTxCg94zUxKJeLbPTMNgNiOG/Mfxk5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y85KuT9T+oNF6J7ifd3C25fpwrvE8w7tuKIW8U9rN3AzPraT6E9m2JC3tjYkyBE8ty rsCpboRxXcJb5/6pvhHI6ci/E8Iqkmj2KhDzzRdAOBOybpO6RZurQJsePVT4iMLazle3 QqAEyn15VGqJhWS6M2JZi+TABT3473/e484kQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.134.13 with SMTP id l13mr2737965ann.160.1267803951302; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:45:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <775910.52553.qm@web35807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:45:51 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: Robert Watson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sean connolly Subject: Re: Automated kernel crash reporting system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:46:05 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, sean connolly wrote: > >> Automatic reporting would end up being a mess given that panics can be >> caused by hardware problems. Having an autoreport check if memtest was run >> before it reports, or having it only run with -CURRENTmight be useful. I too, disagree with this. Surely most attention would be given to the most often recurring problems across varied hardware. If a new -RELEASE is tagged and suddenly there is an influx of very similar automated crash reports across a wide selection of hardware, some conclusions can be reached. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:46:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC8C106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C238FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5EE901DE297; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:46:24 -0800 (PST) To: Jonathan McKeown References: <4B911334.1040703@gmail.com> <201003051624.56569.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.18; tzolkin = 9 Etznab; haab = 16 Kayab Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:46:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: <201003051624.56569.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> (Jonathan McKeown's message of "Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:24:56 +0200") Message-ID: <86wrxq4vqn.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get "hints" of software installed by Ports ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:46:54 -0000 >>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan McKeown writes: Jonathan> pkg_info -D I like "pkg_info -DL 'port*'", because it also shows *where* things got installed... sometimes, I can't find the conf files. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:46:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503231065686 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151D98FC2D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25Fksts017607; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:46:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25FksFv017606; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:46:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:46:54 -0600 From: John To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Message-ID: <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training , Anton Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:46:56 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:45:02AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Anton" == Anton writes: > > Anton> But, to allow acces for yourself - you could install wonderfull > Anton> utility = 'knock-knock'. > > Port knocking is false security. > > It's equivalent to adding precisely two bytes (per knock, which can't > be too close or far apart or numerous) to the key length. > > Are you really thinking that increasing your key length from 2048 to 2050 > helps? > > The right solution is proper ssh key management, and intrusion detection, and > if you insist on having password access, use one-time passwords and/or > strength checks. > > If you don't like your logfiles filling up, don't run ssh on port 22. I like > 443, because corporate firewalls tend to pass that... :) Yes - that's exactly what I used to do, and exactly why I used to do it, but now I'm thinking of actually implement https. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. - Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:47:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD1D1065698 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7948FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792E890008; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:47:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by University of Hamburg (RRZ/mailhost) Received: from mailhost.uni-hamburg.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailhost.uni-hamburg.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ON-KHwNR35mF; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:47:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from pc861.math.uni-hamburg.de (pc861.math.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.222.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: fmjv004) by mailhost.uni-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A21990024; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:47:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B912793.6020908@janh.de> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:47:31 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Komarnicki References: <201003051402.02343.cblasius@gmail.com> <4B912246.7000905@janh.de> In-Reply-To: <4B912246.7000905@janh.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080201060901000003070404" Cc: questions-list freebsd , Pietro Cerutti Subject: Re: Can't install octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:47:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080201060901000003070404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03/05/2010 16:24, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: >> I try to install octave (kde3, kde4 in erlier post) after fresh install >> FreeBSD 8.0 and freebsd-update to FreeBSD 8.0 p2 on i386 athlon-xp >> 1660 MHz, >> but with no success. >> >> I forgot to add that I csup-ed the ports tree today. > > If I try to rebuild x11-toolkits/fltk, I get the same error. My last > build of fltk was done before the last commit to that port. The commit > was based on this problem report: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=143638 > > From the description of that pr: "Note that fltk also has the problem > of linking against its older version, so you have to deinstall the old > version to do a successful build." > > I have not tested that as I am in no immediate need to rebuild fltk. There has been one more commit on that port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch-src_filename_list.cxx.diff?r1=1.4;r2=1.5;f=h That one looks suspicious because (__FreeBSD_version >= 730000) make the clauses before obsolete. Before that commit, the condition was true for 8-STABLE and 9-CURRENT, but not for 8.0-RELEASE or 7-ANYTHING. The commit was supposed to fix 7.3-RELEASE (and probably 7-STABLE) but changed the behavior for 8.0-RELEASE, too, which probably has not been intended. I guess, (__FreeBSD_version >= 730000) should be replaced by (__FreeBSD_version >= 730000 && __FreeBSD_version < 799999). The patch attached fixes the build for me on 8.0-RELEASE. (I have included the maintainer, gahr@, in Cc). Cheers, Jan Henrik --------------080201060901000003070404 Content-Type: text/plain; name="patch-fltk.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch-fltk.txt" diff -u x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch-src_filename_list.cxx.orig x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch-src_filename_list.cxx --- x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch-src_filename_list.cxx.orig 2010-02-25 14:36:59.000000000 +0100 +++ x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch-src_filename_list.cxx 2010-03-05 16:39:03.000000000 +0100 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ #ifndef HAVE_SCANDIR int n = scandir(d, list, 0, sort); -#elif defined(__hpux) || defined(__CYGWIN__) -+#elif defined(__hpux) || defined(__CYGWIN__) || (defined(__FreeBSD__) && (__FreeBSD_version >= 900006 || (__FreeBSD_version >= 800501 && __FreeBSD_version < 900000) || (__FreeBSD_version >= 730000))) ++#elif defined(__hpux) || defined(__CYGWIN__) || (defined(__FreeBSD__) && (__FreeBSD_version >= 900006 || (__FreeBSD_version >= 800501 && __FreeBSD_version < 900000) || (__FreeBSD_version >= 730000 && __FreeBSD_version < 799999))) // HP-UX, Cygwin define the comparison function like this: int n = scandir(d, list, 0, (int(*)(const dirent **, const dirent **))sort); #elif defined(__osf__) --------------080201060901000003070404-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:52:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB2C106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD0C8FC17 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EE6BC1DE27D; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:51:52 -0800 (PST) To: John References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.18; tzolkin = 9 Etznab; haab = 16 Kayab Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:51:52 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> (john@starfire.mn.org's message of "Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:46:54 -0600") Message-ID: <86sk8e4vhj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training , Anton Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:52:23 -0000 >>>>> "John" == John writes: John> Yes - that's exactly what I used to do, and exactly why I used to do John> it, but now I'm thinking of actually implement https. Rent more than one IP. :) I have a block of 8 for exactly that reason. It allows me to run sshd on 443 *and* https on a different 443, and a mailer on one 25 and a high-mx mail spamtrap on another port 25. stonehenge.com mail is handled by 5 blue.stonehenge.com. stonehenge.com mail is handled by 666 spamtrap.stonehenge.com. The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a conference once. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:55:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A605106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5B68FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:55:16 -0500 References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Message-Id: <627DE059-CCC7-47BC-9DC2-A8176F4913EA@olivent.com> From: mikel king To: John In-Reply-To: <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:55:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:55:26 -0000 On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:44 AM, John wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:19:09AM -0500, mikel king wrote: >> >> On Mar 5, 2010, at 8:26 AM, John wrote: >> >> Way back about 10 years ago, I was playing around with IPFW a lot. I >> wrote a script to update IPFW from changes made to a MySql db. It was >> a just for fun project, that turned out to be rather useful I have >> some developers that I managed who like you were road warriors. They >> logged in to the https web page w/ their username and password which >> grabbed their IP address and stored it in a table on with their login >> id. >> >> The script called fud (for firewall update daemon) connected to the >> db >> and ran a query to check for any rule changes. If there were it would >> apply them to the rule set and clear the change flag. Using this >> combination I was able to allow ssh access only to the necessary ip >> addresses. >> >> I kind of scrapped it when VPNs became easier to deploy and I have no >> idea where this set of scripts are now, but it would be rather >> trivial >> to build a new version. >> >> If anyone thinks it's worth revisiting hit me off list. > > Maybe I'll have to learn how to do a VPN from FreeBSD.... > > One thought that occurs to me is that pf tables would provide a > direct API without having to hit a database. > > I think I really like this. I may have to implement it for pf. > It should be really easy with CGI and calls to pfctl. > -- There's probably a dozen ways to slice it now. I went with php, mysql and ipfw, just because that was the theme back then. I also found it handy to be able to login into the system and manually enter the ip addressing if necessary. I would definitely add some better logging than I did back then. Hmmm giving me an idea for another article on BSDNews.net... ;-) cheers, m! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 15:59:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C5C106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1483D8FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o25Fwu1U011756 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:58:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003051558.o25Fwu1U011756@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11754.1267804736.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:58:56 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:59:27 -0000 Fbsd1 writes: > There is hard coded logic that is stopping you from doing what you want. > Looks like you are SOL. Me thinks you are absolutely correct. I was only hoping I was doing something wrong and a slight syntax change would make it work. Thank you and thanks to Maciej Milewski for his suggestion. I have one last trick up my sleve before giving up completely on this idea. Maybe I can hijack one of the rc.x scripts to cause it to spew a memory disk image of the mfsboot code on to the freshly-unmounted /dev/ad0 device during a reboot. Since the goal is to completely rebuild the system anyway, this would be the last gasp of the present system as it gets ready to reboot, hopefully with mfsbsd and all hard drives dismounted. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:01:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261E106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6E58FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25G1WcR000229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:01:32 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:01:32 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: mikel king , Programmer In Training , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:01:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 15:44:39, John wrote: > Maybe I'll have to learn how to do a VPN from FreeBSD.... > > One thought that occurs to me is that pf tables would provide a > direct API without having to hit a database. > > I think I really like this. I may have to implement it for pf. > It should be really easy with CGI and calls to pfctl. There's already a mechanism whereby you can connect into a PF firewall and have it open up extra access for you, all controlled by ssh keys. See: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/authpf.html Not only that, but you can dynamically block brute force attempts to crack SSH passwords using just PF -- no need to scan through auth.log or use an external database. You need something like this in pf.conf: table persist [...near the top of the rules section...] block drop in log quick on $ext_if from [...later in the rules section...] pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ from any to $ext_if port ssh \ flags S/SA keep state \ (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) This adds IPs to the ssh-bruteforce table if there are too frequent attempts to connect from them (more than 3 within 30 seconds in this case) and so blocks all further access. You need to run a cron job to clear out old entries from the ssh-bruteforce table or it will grow continually over time: */12 * * * * /sbin/pfctl -t ssh-bruteforce -T expire 86400 >/dev/null 2>&1 Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRKtwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyodQCfZ42OO6DstB5TFCY49uP0KaZl Y+wAn3sBhwad03EGKioC7vBhcqE2vHvP =awJ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:02:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024DB1065678 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA41E8FC28 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP59 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:02:06 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.226.147] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from aodai.collidiamo.net ([151.49.226.147]) by BLU0-SMTP59.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:02:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:01:41 +0100 From: daniele User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anselm Strauss References: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 16:02:06.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[343B5D00:01CABC7D] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port/package install preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:02:08 -0000 On 03/05/10 16:43, Anselm Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to do a real preview with portupgrade? I want to see all > ports that would be installed/upgraded when installing a particular port. > The --noexecute option doesn't really show me a lot. How would this be done > with packages? pkg_add would have to download all packges first to be able > to calculate all dependencies, or can it operate on an index file? > > Anselm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hello ! Take a look at the 'ports' manpage and you will find a mean on how to get useful information on the ports collection (configuring building discover dependencies etc..) : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ports&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASE&format=html Examples * fetch-list Show list of files to be fetched in order to build the port. * run-depends-list, build-depends-list Print a list of all the compile and run dependencies, and dependencies of those dependencies, by port directory. etc... d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:07:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB86106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FD88FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25G7Teq000318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:07:30 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B912C41.8090505@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86sk8e4vhj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86sk8e4vhj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training , Anton Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets > blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a > conference once. Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRLEAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw//gCfS3MaEN0c+8gaHqS8RbQq/Nsz KtEAnRb5oIrwk4DGMR4uzfB+tO5mh/sp =Duju -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:10:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819661065670 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EC68FC0A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 168-254.105-92.cust.bluewin.ch ([92.105.254.168] helo=gahrfit.gahr.ch) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nna6d-0002Zq-KA; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:10:28 +0100 Received: by gahrfit.gahr.ch (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:09:56 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:09:56 +0100 To: Jan Henrik Sylvester Message-ID: <20100305160955.GG40573@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201003051402.02343.cblasius@gmail.com> <4B912246.7000905@janh.de> <4B912793.6020908@janh.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B912793.6020908@janh.de> X-PGP-Key: 0x9571F78E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1203 92B5 3919 AF84 9B97 28D6 C0C2 6A98 9571 F78E User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Zbigniew Komarnicki , questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: Can't install octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:10:30 -0000 --lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2010-Mar-05, 16:47, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > There has been one more commit on that port: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch= -src_filename_list.cxx.diff?r1=3D1.4;r2=3D1.5;f=3Dh >=20 > That one looks suspicious because (__FreeBSD_version >=3D 730000) make th= e=20 > clauses before obsolete. >=20 > Before that commit, the condition was true for 8-STABLE and 9-CURRENT,=20 > but not for 8.0-RELEASE or 7-ANYTHING. The commit was supposed to fix=20 > 7.3-RELEASE (and probably 7-STABLE) but changed the behavior for=20 > 8.0-RELEASE, too, which probably has not been intended. Good catch! Fixed, thanks! --=20 Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuRLNMACgkQwMJqmJVx944QewCfS7DWh/5QPPHnS7zkBA7pgZsN fKwAoJYkcf8OBKHyvzB75LXXlhbko1bM =KUSg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:10:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B9D1065723 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797E78FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2767251fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:10:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=XQ2bTW0kl+zfuX7exsID0kQjqD7KGsXtesNiZWXdz38=; b=qX7U5tt1zFMXh324WDHZLcuSCWGMN6633VCH0AkT+4G+pLXxytFEh+tAaDACi8c9R4 WwSukbyOmcEscvGZTBwWOQbHg0ZziwynPJjDaiFmOmVFe//UDnnmfgBVug2B7ciro7q2 UDnoqQYi7ylqguyxyweUS/Jg+80zx/BLfUIVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=F8HZIbIhLOEtIrprAs6agT0hmvmMnBr6MNHtrD0cICLIGfwdXG+Oa3prMNtkBi1jCA r/sWaIESlXPyhjpQjMTY4Ile3GEocxWWsfmSNBny42J2MMM4h5GoahT9N5XF3TOheA8o FtZWaS8A6zEIyL8VM5nKg1S0DXyn7Xmky/e3s= Received: by 10.223.4.208 with SMTP id 16mr1088773fas.107.1267805432450; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.83.127.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.83.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z15sm2969883fkz.51.2010.03.05.08.10.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:10:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:12:10 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: daniele Message-ID: <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: daniele , Polytropon , Sabine Baer , Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Sabine Baer , Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:10:40 -0000 * daniele (glimp@live.com) wrote: > HI ! > > I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin. > Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress > browser & plugin. > > Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin work for > firefox and opera (basically I followed the handbook). > > --- Installed /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10 > --- kldload linux > --- mount linprocfs > --- installed /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10/ > (--- installed /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper) > (--- ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ ) > (--- as normal user I executed nspluginwrapper ... etc) > --- installed ___NATIVE FREEBSD version___ of Opera [/usr/ports/www/opera] > --- installed /usr/ports/www/opera-linuxplugins/. Still does NOT work! I also tried deinstalling all stuffs, which were installed in the previous sessions. And then I tried installing them again as followings (excerpted from handbook). emulator/linux_base-f10 www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 www/nspluginwrapper # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (normal user) # mount -t linprocfs linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc www/opera (native FBSD) www/opera-linuxplugins Again, it still does NOT work! (Note that only missing from the previous session is ``kldload linux'', which was loaded at boot time.) Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. Some libraries are probably not updated??? But ``make install'' success, so libraries should not be problems. I don't know. FBSD should make it simpler than this. Some Linux distros, flash plug-ins are installed in default configuration. But I shall not go back to Linux, anyway. :-) Actually, I only want to study Unix console, C language and some administrations. In GUI world, I only want to point and click. Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:12:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660F31065687 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416588FC14 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C5A511DE338; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:12:11 -0800 (PST) To: Matthew Seaman References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86sk8e4vhj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B912C41.8090505@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.18; tzolkin = 9 Etznab; haab = 16 Kayab Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:12:11 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4B912C41.8090505@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 +0000") Message-ID: <86ocj24ujo.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training , Anton Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:12:42 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets >> blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a >> conference once. Matthew> Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... Oooh! And arpnetworks gives me a /48 in 6 for free. I could have thousands of them. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:14:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2897E106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amsibamsi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6218FC1D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2771242fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8lLkm7+/XsfDHmHb57Eg8+LCLBCUQNz2F/UhnH3hJ7c=; b=Vke4igSSFXakpOuZZQ7yjxm108KwCwKiFxb/Odt482DliWOwG3zVyHsEnnfVRp9MEd VC+EbWWofDik+4D1R4AcJuDW4yy5ghvt8IIuQp5+mTdvoenCRtptBrGEGsJfw4KVxAaq 7TvY93v/eKxh/K0Xs04ANgON0+lUXQRCIqkJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tc3oZiC5HSPnjGEYTLj11wV5ccafWGHUctBTG/EK8qpP98Lt+hzWSeLoY977xFDMd+ 5QJxt5jbE9ghp3xGyCMB9Xa3ShTEZmQPwEBw3XycUnPmfd6B9UGFSCVRjBh5Wmy0uSCG 5y14XYZW6HpEP0o2kzHI2Nr+LN/BvtSDjinUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.28.156 with SMTP id m28mr1280347fac.41.1267805653130; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:14:12 +0100 Message-ID: <29722c131003050814i46cff405s5996768dd94f653f@mail.gmail.com> From: Anselm Strauss To: daniele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port/package install preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:14:23 -0000 That gives me some static information on the ports requirements. But I would like a preview of what rests to be done. Some ports have a lot of dependencies, most of them are already installed. Can ports also incorporate the current state of installed packages? On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:01 PM, daniele wrote: > On 03/05/10 16:43, Anselm Strauss wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> is it possible to do a real preview with portupgrade? I want to see all >> ports that would be installed/upgraded when installing a particular port. >> The --noexecute option doesn't really show me a lot. How would this be >> done >> with packages? pkg_add would have to download all packges first to be able >> to calculate all dependencies, or can it operate on an index file? >> >> Anselm >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> Hello ! > > Take a look at the 'ports' manpage and you will find a mean on how to get > useful information on the ports collection (configuring building discover > dependencies etc..) : > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ports&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASE&format=html > > Examples > > * fetch-list > Show list of files to be fetched in order to build the port. > > * run-depends-list, build-depends-list > Print a list of all the compile and run dependencies, > and dependencies of those dependencies, by port directory. > > etc... > > d > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:20:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACECB1065675 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1408FC1A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP59 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:20:34 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.226.147] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from aodai.collidiamo.net ([151.49.226.147]) by BLU0-SMTP59.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:20:33 -0800 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:20:08 +0100 From: daniele User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pongthep Kulkrisada , bsd-questions References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 16:20:34.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[C86E9800:01CABC7F] Cc: Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:20:35 -0000 On 03/05/10 17:12, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > * daniele (glimp@live.com) wrote: >> HI ! >> >> I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin. >> Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress >> browser& plugin. >> >> Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin work for >> firefox and opera (basically I followed the handbook). >> >> --- Installed /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10 >> --- kldload linux >> --- mount linprocfs >> --- installed /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10/ >> (--- installed /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper) >> (--- ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ ) >> (--- as normal user I executed nspluginwrapper ... etc) >> --- installed ___NATIVE FREEBSD version___ of Opera [/usr/ports/www/opera] >> --- installed /usr/ports/www/opera-linuxplugins/. > Still does NOT work! > > I also tried deinstalling all stuffs, which were installed in the previous sessions. > And then I tried installing them again as followings (excerpted from handbook). > > emulator/linux_base-f10 > www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 > www/nspluginwrapper > # ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ > % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (normal user) > # mount -t linprocfs linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc > www/opera (native FBSD) > www/opera-linuxplugins > > Again, it still does NOT work! > (Note that only missing from the previous session is ``kldload linux'', > which was loaded at boot time.) > > Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. > Some libraries are probably not updated??? > But ``make install'' success, so libraries should not be problems. > I don't know. > > FBSD should make it simpler than this. > Some Linux distros, flash plug-ins are installed in default configuration. > But I shall not go back to Linux, anyway. :-) > > Actually, I only want to study Unix console, C language and some administrations. > In GUI world, I only want to point and click. > > Thanks, > Pongthep > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > hmmm... :-/ is at least now the web browser opera working ? d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:21:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F5A106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ECC8FC27 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25GLedq000533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:21:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B912F93.7010102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:21:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86sk8e4vhj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B912C41.8090505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <86ocj24ujo.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86ocj24ujo.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training , Anton Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:21:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 16:12:11, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: > > Matthew> On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>> The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets >>> blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a >>> conference once. > > Matthew> Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... > > Oooh! And arpnetworks gives me a /48 in 6 for free. I could have thousands of > them. :) Thousands? Try billions. Sagans and sagans. More than the maximum possible number of hosts on the IPv4 internet. Muha ha Ha!!!!! Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRL5MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzRQQCglZbgUd+Or9l/EQaBCUMoE2DN oE4Anjq34Oi7OOSgfFGn8/Znu9KAoWHU =XQGR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:26:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11EA106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBA68FC25 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19186 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2010 16:26:43 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Mar 2010 16:26:43 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D8C0B50883; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:26:41 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <4B90AEC0.1030605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:26:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4B90AEC0.1030605@gmail.com> (Aryeh M. Friedman's message of "Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:12:00 -0500") Message-ID: <444okug2f2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: how to reset high scores on gnome games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:26:43 -0000 "Aryeh M. Friedman" writes: > See subject See /usr/ports/games/gnome-games/pkg-install -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:27:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D1C1065706 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C398FC1D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25GRBDS050693; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:27:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o25GRB4M050690; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:27:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:27:11 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Anselm Strauss In-Reply-To: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:27:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port/package install preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:27:13 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Anselm Strauss wrote: > is it possible to do a real preview with portupgrade? I want to see all > ports that would be installed/upgraded when installing a particular port. > The --noexecute option doesn't really show me a lot. It shows what portupgrade would do, which is nothing if that port isn't already installed. If you're looking at installing a new port, portinstall may act differently. But I prefer to just cd to the port directory and do 'make missing'. 'make fetch-list' will show the fetch commands. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:27:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA561065700 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB488FC29 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25GRY1f000619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:27:35 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9130F6.5040901@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:27:34 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anselm Strauss References: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> <29722c131003050814i46cff405s5996768dd94f653f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <29722c131003050814i46cff405s5996768dd94f653f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: daniele , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port/package install preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:27:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 16:14:12, Anselm Strauss wrote: > That gives me some static information on the ports requirements. But I would > like a preview of what rests to be done. Some ports have a lot of > dependencies, most of them are already installed. Can ports also incorporate > the current state of installed packages? I think 'portmaster -n' is probably your best bet for this. Ports certainly does take account of what has already been installed either from ports or packages -- remember that a package is basically an installed port: once the bits have hit the disk platter it doesn't matter whether they came from a local compilation or were downloaded as a package tarball. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRMPYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwj/gCdEhI27ylg1bFV62vXsw4odbfE RJkAn1EJXo1TIkWTxz6qxJOusjBfdcRt =aDm9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:30:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D4D106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDD98FC1F for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o25GUPYA043788; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:30:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ggf7LhnZlc2w; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:30:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25GUFNM043782; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:30:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4B913197.9000903@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:30:15 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mikel king References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:30:42 -0000 mikel king wrote: > > > Way back about 10 years ago, I was playing around with IPFW a lot. I > wrote a script to update IPFW from changes made to a MySql db. It was a > just for fun project, that turned out to be rather useful I have some > developers that I managed who like you were road warriors. They logged > in to the https web page w/ their username and password which grabbed > their IP address and stored it in a table on with their login id. > > The script called fud (for firewall update daemon) connected to the db > and ran a query to check for any rule changes. If there were it would > apply them to the rule set and clear the change flag. Using this > combination I was able to allow ssh access only to the necessary ip > addresses. > We use a similar approach but only rely on tcpwrappers. Here's what we do (simplified & obfuscated slightly), just for reference (or, maybe commentary :-D ) On server: [505] Fri 05.Mar.2010 10:21:37 [admin@foo][~] cat /etc/hosts.allow | grep sshd # Wrapping sshd(8) is not normally a good idea, but if you sshd: /var/tmp/skyangel.ip : allow sshd: all : deny On "skyangel": [13] Fri 05.Mar.2010 10:22:56 [admin@skyangel][~] sudo crontab -l |grep dhcp @reboot /usr/local/bin/php -q /root/scripts/dhcp.php * */4 * * * /usr/local/bin/php -q /root/scripts/dhcp.php "dhcp.php" uses lynx to dump a server-side HTTPS page and sends a secret in the URI. Server-side page is able to decrypt this and determine it's really "skyangel", then writes the connecting IP addy to /var/tmp/skyangel.ip. KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:32:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE6B1065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A0B8FC27 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP47 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:32:15 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.226.147] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from aodai.collidiamo.net ([151.49.226.147]) by BLU0-SMTP47.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:32:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:31:49 +0100 From: daniele User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anselm Strauss References: <29722c131003050743i4da11f4ak897ec813b48d30df@mail.gmail.com> <29722c131003050814i46cff405s5996768dd94f653f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <29722c131003050814i46cff405s5996768dd94f653f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 16:32:15.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A3B1360:01CABC81] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port/package install preview X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:32:20 -0000 On 03/05/10 17:14, Anselm Strauss wrote: > That gives me some static information on the ports requirements. But I > would like a preview of what rests to be done. Some ports have a lot of > dependencies, most of them are already installed. Can ports also > incorporate the current state of installed packages? > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:01 PM, daniele > wrote: > > On 03/05/10 16:43, Anselm Strauss wrote: > > Hi, > > is it possible to do a real preview with portupgrade? I want to > see all > ports that would be installed/upgraded when installing a > particular port. > The --noexecute option doesn't really show me a lot. How would > this be done > with packages? pkg_add would have to download all packges first > to be able > to calculate all dependencies, or can it operate on an index file? > > Anselm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > Hello ! > > Take a look at the 'ports' manpage and you will find a mean on how > to get useful information on the ports collection (configuring > building discover dependencies etc..) : > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ports&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASE&format=html > > > Examples > > * fetch-list > Show list of files to be fetched in order to build > the port. > > * run-depends-list, build-depends-list > Print a list of all the compile and run > dependencies, and dependencies of those dependencies, by port directory. > > etc... > > d > > Well, I don't know if there's already some pre-packaged tool to retrieve the information you need. In the worst case, I suppose one should set up a script that makes use of that "static information" + the information provided by pkg_info to reach the goal... but that's just a guess d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:35:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4F81065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143348FC25 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25GZ8ac018396; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:35:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25GZ7Hr018395; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:35:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:35:07 -0600 From: John To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100305163507.GA18338@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: John , mikel king , Programmer In Training , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pf overload for SMTP (was: Thousands of ssh probes) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:35:09 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 04:01:32PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/03/2010 15:44:39, John wrote: > > Maybe I'll have to learn how to do a VPN from FreeBSD.... > > > > One thought that occurs to me is that pf tables would provide a > > direct API without having to hit a database. > > > > I think I really like this. I may have to implement it for pf. > > It should be really easy with CGI and calls to pfctl. > > There's already a mechanism whereby you can connect into a PF firewall > and have it open up extra access for you, all controlled by ssh keys. > > See: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/authpf.html > > Not only that, but you can dynamically block brute force attempts to > crack SSH passwords using just PF -- no need to scan through auth.log or > use an external database. You need something like this in pf.conf: > > table persist > > [...near the top of the rules section...] > block drop in log quick on $ext_if from > > [...later in the rules section...] > pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ > from any to $ext_if port ssh \ > flags S/SA keep state \ > (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) > > This adds IPs to the ssh-bruteforce table if there are too frequent > attempts to connect from them (more than 3 within 30 seconds in this > case) and so blocks all further access. > > You need to run a cron job to clear out old entries from the > ssh-bruteforce table or it will grow continually over time: > > */12 * * * * /sbin/pfctl -t ssh-bruteforce -T expire 86400 >/dev/null 2>&1 > > Cheers, > > Matthew Is there any reason one couldn't do something similar for SMTP? Maybe a little wider sample window, like 10/300? Or would you end up blocking too any things that you don't mean to block? Anyone played with this for SMTP? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. - Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:42:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D014106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BECC8FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2547782bwz.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:42:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.3 with SMTP id n3mr272382bkn.81.1267807338444; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:42:18 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:42:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Pongthep Kulkrisada , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:42:29 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually updated the system and the ports as well? > FBSD should make it simpler than this. It should. But what can we do if Adobe doesn't even acknowledge our existence and refuses to provide a FreeBSD version of their Flash player? > Some Linux distros, flash plug-ins are installed in default configuration. > But I shall not go back to Linux, anyway. :-) Sure, Linux has a bigger market share, so they get enough love from Adobe... though I understand that Flash support for Linux/x86-64 isn't all that good either (?). > Actually, I only want to study Unix console, C language and some administrations. > In GUI world, I only want to point and click. As said, if all else breaks, try running OpenSolaris (or a Linux distro) as a guest OS inside VirtualBox. This way, you have the best of both worlds. > Thanks, > Pongthep -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:44:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34459106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BFC8FC21 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25GiHlV000896 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:44:17 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B9134E1.7060501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:44:17 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100305163507.GA18338@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305163507.GA18338@elwood.starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: mikel king , Programmer In Training , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf overload for SMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:44:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 16:35:07, John wrote: > Is there any reason one couldn't do something similar for SMTP? Maybe > a little wider sample window, like 10/300? Or would you end up blocking > too any things that you don't mean to block? Anyone played with this > for SMTP? You can do this with SMTP, but I'm not sure quite how useful it would be given the different usage patterns for e-mail. (I've applied it quite happly for FTP servers, for example) If you want to do some pf-level antispam stuff, then look at spamd -- in the ports as obspamd to prevent confusion with SpamAssassin's spamd. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=spamd&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&format=html This implements greylisting, greytrapping and teergrube against addresses blacklisted as spam sources. Last I checked it only worked on IPv4 though. It's a fairly light-weight means of eliminating quite a lot of spam, but it should be used in conjunction with other MTA mediated anti-spam techniques, for example SpamAssassin Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRNOEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzcGACePJLeg/yorVq8vpVA6Nr7WBbI FksAn0hkNVrOo/m9o5gClh7J7zGoWdvU =JW5l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:55:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B0E1065674 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07EC8FC33 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-56-106.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.56.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25Gt3M1051186 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:55:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BBE1C04 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:55:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jg6Q2Lh8uZ0M for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:54:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from matthias-fechners-macbook.local (tmo-099-155.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.99.155]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 12E5C1BF2 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:54:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:54:50 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:55:08 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:55:12 -0000 Hi, Am 05.03.10 17:01, schrieb Matthew Seaman: > table persist > [...near the top of the rules section...] > block drop in log quick on $ext_if from > > [...later in the rules section...] > pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ > from any to $ext_if port ssh \ > flags S/SA keep state \ > (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) > that is dangarous, if you use subversion over ssh you will sometimes get more then 10 requests in 30 seconds. That means you will also block users they are allowed to connect. Gruss, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:58:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41F7106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7283B8FC23 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2818308fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:58:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=d2JZwPF0nH1tXqfnYVrUBVr0OvV1kA9q7xUITClVVrM=; b=v+PJxW65yphhuyq89J50dKTrFkvG14tqGaaxSIWRTlq+g2XAcqXoqxa2NIUWetWJsY +Q44GOG0iZVgTdYCF9pgMbetz06zG6SBS5Efqq599cviduDnctj6JuS8ojHADSjhAg4M ak/6qutN1Dlc3izl9NfgL9+lKETPK52KkVdZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Vboc1szXGwSjaQ1uNn9sEamK8/R8u+OftNXVyGobMocu0x0qvi6xtxRIarIdbo/sD+ ihY50nHJS0fXXR/hzIvrTdI56ulDFfD+AngTdr+/7Lkeq449GbgYcEcv7hrK/beXA0x0 w3JfyXFlrTZhVsPpNQf7vRF6FrUr9j1SwM27k= Received: by 10.87.55.11 with SMTP id h11mr1919751fgk.56.1267806637339; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.83.127.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.83.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm936306fge.25.2010.03.05.08.30.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:30:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:32:13 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: daniele Message-ID: <20100305163213.GA1272@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: bsd-questions Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:58:32 -0000 * daniele (glimp@live.com) wrote: > hmmm... :-/ > > is at least now the web browser opera working ? Yes it is working. Thanks for your prompt response. Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:02:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DC6106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38348FC28 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1094455fge.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:02:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=GqYh373/tCe48gGca7B0NajuZo+1UR3t5VkKVjK3ceA=; b=NDP/ekm7/ef/OtcOvbMFts7nSkttMyu1+4PiuWxkNx/NoHdChoBoGFuwuX0D2WkOCx igzdp/+oycJIhyPYayFPtxfvdPwekEnobZekTATH/MMGcU2soTl/I3/SaISwDmqPzdT3 /E4q+gfB39lISo0K47eKCUXaWlhCpZZ19asGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=o1bFGtaL8M3EHo7Pk1jIPCbeMByXVFKQHx+HL7xlOSU19+Knyg/zDxcZLzB94ETzac DRUgIL0QK0pHEjwOkkJxNWdr/hXLa0mXJwEtEdQTtHwrjNDrX+iWiXdoMq6bTGoxXyUH m0ILes0YAvs1Su8Gk70KPt351rSr8U/9kn8sA= Received: by 10.87.64.13 with SMTP id r13mr1635632fgk.20.1267806777567; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.83.127.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.83.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm939027fge.25.2010.03.05.08.32.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:32:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:34:35 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: daniele Message-ID: <20100305163435.GB1272@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: bsd-questions Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:02:51 -0000 * daniele (glimp@live.com) wrote: > hmmm... :-/ > > is at least now the web browser opera working ? [edit]Yes, it is working but without flash. [/edit] Thanks for your prompt response. Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:02:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4241065670 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B478FC26 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25H2b42018821; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:02:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25H2bNq018820; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:02:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:02:37 -0600 From: John To: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: <20100305170237.GA18737@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:02:55 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:54:50PM +0100, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Hi, > > Am 05.03.10 17:01, schrieb Matthew Seaman: > >table persist > >[...near the top of the rules section...] > >block drop in log quick on $ext_if from > > > >[...later in the rules section...] > >pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ > > from any to $ext_if port ssh \ > > flags S/SA keep state \ > > (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) > > > > that is dangarous, if you use subversion over ssh you will sometimes get > more then 10 requests in 30 seconds. > That means you will also block users they are allowed to connect. OK - that's good to know - but I'm not using subversion at this time, and this is working nicely so far. I've already picked off one hacker. # pfctl -t ssh-bruteforce -T show No ALTQ support in kernel ALTQ related functions disabled 218.56.61.114 Mar 5 10:40:05 elwood sshd[18452]: Invalid user test from 218.56.61.114 Mar 5 10:40:10 elwood sshd[18457]: Invalid user admin from 218.56.61.114 Apparently got him on the third attempt, just as advertised. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. - Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:04:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6592A106567E for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BC98FC26 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:04:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o25H43Gq001172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:04:03 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B913983.30900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:04:03 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Fechner References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> In-Reply-To: <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:04:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 16:54:50, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Hi, > > Am 05.03.10 17:01, schrieb Matthew Seaman: >> table persist >> [...near the top of the rules section...] >> block drop in log quick on $ext_if from >> >> [...later in the rules section...] >> pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ >> from any to $ext_if port ssh \ >> flags S/SA keep state \ >> (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) >> > > that is dangarous, if you use subversion over ssh you will sometimes get > more then 10 requests in 30 seconds. > That means you will also block users they are allowed to connect. Yes. Almost all of the time I use this I've also had a ssh-whitelist table -- addresses that will never be blocked in this way. Like this: table persist table const { \ 81.187.76.160/29 \ 2001:8b0:151:1::/64 \ } persist block drop in log quick on $ext_if from pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ from to $ext_if port ssh \ flags S/SA keep state pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ from ! to $ext_if port ssh \ flags S/SA keep state \ (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAkuROYMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwA7ACfcngE3ZsQmRAoTY7sW9aqXfLv IW8Al1Pl4OaGfWbytHAYrfqnWYpNs40= =Yg12 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:11:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364D410656B8 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [173.8.102.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74418FC3F for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elwood.starfire.mn.org (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25HA3pJ018944; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:10:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john@elwood.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by elwood.starfire.mn.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o25HA3gf018943; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:10:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:10:03 -0600 From: John To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100305171003.GA18881@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> <4B913983.30900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B913983.30900@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Matthias Fechner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:11:52 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:04:03PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/03/2010 16:54:50, Matthias Fechner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 05.03.10 17:01, schrieb Matthew Seaman: > >> table persist > >> [...near the top of the rules section...] > >> block drop in log quick on $ext_if from > >> > >> [...later in the rules section...] > >> pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ > >> from any to $ext_if port ssh \ > >> flags S/SA keep state \ > >> (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) > >> > > > > that is dangarous, if you use subversion over ssh you will sometimes get > > more then 10 requests in 30 seconds. > > That means you will also block users they are allowed to connect. > > Yes. Almost all of the time I use this I've also had a ssh-whitelist > table -- addresses that will never be blocked in this way. Like this: > > table persist > table const { \ > 81.187.76.160/29 \ > 2001:8b0:151:1::/64 \ > } persist > > block drop in log quick on $ext_if from > > pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ > from to $ext_if port ssh \ > flags S/SA keep state > > pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ > from ! to $ext_if port ssh \ > flags S/SA keep state \ > (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) > Ah. I see. That's clever. Rather than "overriding" the bruteforce list, which would require getting rid of "quick", you use whitelist to prevent things from ever going into the bruteforce table. Nice! I have just switched to pf from ipfw, so I am still learning the nuances and style points. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:11:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F87E1065680 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2B08FCD6 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2831256fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:10:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=3piF21K6qbpRTLY8owOp82kmkSWq0IE8H5XEnU/05Xw=; b=XdSKZ59yVogklpfZlOwvnErMejp42AAn6bod2KKXWgNKo+XETJGqsBz7fcBxTduCtq dB0Im6J6AwDU5L5HN6EHgg/pp8JkWLvTi9N3WIbFK1bNohOmDbqEfbmj4FhssxUMgbdY TNp9r4mtKAPERrUslgXmPM9HQkH1q0qjq3R84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=O2BeaUUxztMmBsNAHyGZ5FbB5VfJQ7bZJfLuOv/pRclZ9vj4/W9hPn3NJyINUBw3Qs FDzuBGrbIEQqKtgFrHYNcx1wzH1vwA2odUXxIGwcqxIeNNuFe6eAj/by9OQv7iNqPYXy T6Twos/Si3hgmZevrqthjhD3ohmdTw19Vs9cA= Received: by 10.223.27.70 with SMTP id h6mr1339613fac.50.1267809056300; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.83.127.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.83.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm3079163fkq.49.2010.03.05.09.10.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:10:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:12:33 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-ID: <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: "C. P. Ghost" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:11:53 -0000 * C. P. Ghost (cpghost@cordula.ws) wrote: > If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually > updated the system and the ports as well? % uname -a FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1 19:12:37 ICT 2009 root@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 But port tree is very large. I only update the followings. ports-base ports-archivers ports-audio ports-devel ports-dns ports-editors ports-emulators ports-ftp ports-graphics ports-lang ports-mail ports-misc ports-net ports-security ports-sysutils ports-www I reinstall only some ports, which I considerd important. > It should. But what can we do if Adobe doesn't even acknowledge our > existence and refuses to provide a FreeBSD version of their Flash > player? Sad... > Sure, Linux has a bigger market share, so they get enough love from > Adobe... though I understand that Flash support for Linux/x86-64 isn't > all that good either (?). They will tend to FreeBSD some day, much better. IMHO, the best OS is FreeBSD. The best OS with GUI is OS-X. Both are BSDs. > As said, if all else breaks, try running OpenSolaris (or a Linux distro) > as a guest OS inside VirtualBox. This way, you have the best of both > worlds. I don't want to. Even now I have 2 OSes installed, I still hate it. In fact, 90% I boot of FreeBSD (at home). Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:24:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525D3106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from n7b.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n7b.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E98CA8FC1D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.25] by n7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2010 17:24:11 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.183] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2010 17:24:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp124.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2010 17:24:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 706895.72979.bm@omp124.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 39995 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Mar 2010 17:24:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1267809851; bh=y8QY4Cupvu5e3+U+qJyJWcbznCXJA9XBIGRn0smGo4A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Fg/DuKJB/QyGC7rYhJT/iDrfQ/go7wf09p296dLyhGwSijkUxXpcDu0WF29uKgVz/o4L7oH8JK/exJdlo7tGwlLnAThLzxeYfvCtOF2xb9BUwtDSuR2DnczqoG73ibPL+M59dwTXRJ/xHqlHKd5sgWm3+aVRkcI42sAIHTizfng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B34rqeJ1Y07Rdg+DXCvG2rEItdgJTrueNIxXTy1fsDD8XeE+NtzVecHHkp4qJJBymUPUe+ScGrSjjC019YEqfqTzDVxZXm5BvY7CEEE4+qvMmyguS0wbOrml+RT6k/QK0l4/ai3i0xJUT1AcvyXAOy9VI50Or6c37or8iW86a4M=; Message-ID: <577341.29228.qm@web65513.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aBzkufkVM1mPwVpRdAEI4d1R4J1zRTy_MVRgaB_sHcfbZXwogxCRUCFDd6FU2r29aZb6Unfc9StqvFeAZLhIr0U_wOUKkv3gEYNWBvz8RrRZnTuerndTHYXT_rmJcj9MqPHpxaSM_UFhTX5zy7XI7ez0_4GS9Sn6cvWMElSf9BSSWBz3g4M7t2ckSihyb03KqF.HTYJOp6QotTh1uFzM.efWfH3PN0NP7dMDMIbgm06uBpKQUJi4CxLPnLSZNpZlzaVQmx65K81KkJnvkycQ9eB3CdLYElATGHmOrn6pUeMxqW_xGt.RbJP7f_y1iE55A6zOVur0w2HUZ.pfyQXZjQG0q4HnC0R7yPRMYkTAD6CClOEUg5eEmiE6dWjn7ckl5BBbaLRCc_qvVtFgi2ov Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65513.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:24:11 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:24:11 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100305154740.CA5B710656AA@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: video cam with room view for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:24:18 -0000 >=20 > Message: 23 > Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:33:43 +0100 > From: "Bas v.d. Wiel" > Subject: Re: video cam with room view for FreeBSD > && Skype > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <4B912457.5040601@kompasmedia.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; > format=3Dflowed >=20 > In the past I've had reasonable succes using a standard > camcorder over=20 > firewire to do things like this. It's been a few years > though. If using=20 > firewire isn't an issue for you, I'd be happy to delve into > my pile of=20 > notes and see if I can find you something of a howto. The > advantage of a=20 > firewire camera is in the much more standardized protocol > between PC and=20 > camera. >=20 > Bas >=20 USB cameras are starting to implement a standard protocol as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class (Shortened to "UVC") It is apparently a requirement for USB and Vista certification. >From the Wikipedia page: FreeBSD Not implemented yet, there are patches available which make Linux kernel US= B mediadrivers work in userspace by using an asynchronous USB interface. It= 's the first OS allowing to have an entire highspeed USB driver in userland= . Regards, James Phillips =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AThe new Internet Explorer=AE 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized= for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internet= explorer/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:52:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBC7106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC82A8FC1E for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-56-106.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.56.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25HprqN068723 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:51:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460CA1E5B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:51:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OeoN1xEZMBBH for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:51:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:2001:a60:f035:1:74b0:e4f3:1e71:76ab] (unknown [IPv6:2001:a60:f035:1:74b0:e4f3:1e71:76ab]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81EEB1E49 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:51:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9144AE.8070909@fechner.net> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:51:42 +0100 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <20100305154439.GA17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B912ADC.1040802@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4B91375A.4020503@fechner.net> <4B913983.30900@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100305171003.GA18881@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305171003.GA18881@elwood.starfire.mn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:51:57 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:52:01 -0000 Hi, Am 05.03.2010 18:10, schrieb John: > I have just switched to pf from ipfw, so I am still learning the > nuances and style points. I switched now to security/sshguard-pf. It works perfectly and blocks also via pf. Blocking is working there with: table persist block in log quick proto tcp from to any label "ssh bruteforce" probability 85% So I let 15% of the pakets through in the hope that will slow down this brute force attacks and I can protect in this step other hosts. Hopefully the attacker keeps then longer in my tarpit. Bye Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:54:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70629106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1278FC23 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2618917bwz.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:54:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.203 with SMTP id e11mr373912bke.39.1267811680294; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:54:40 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:54:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Pongthep Kulkrisada , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:54:51 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada w= rote: > * C. P. Ghost (cpghost@cordula.ws) wrote: >> If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually >> updated the system and the ports as well? > % uname -a > FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec =A0= 1 19:12:37 ICT 2009 =A0 =A0 root@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/G= ENERIC =A0i386 So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping? >> As said, if all else breaks, try running OpenSolaris (or a Linux distro) >> as a guest OS inside VirtualBox. This way, you have the best of both >> worlds. > > I don't want to. Even now I have 2 OSes installed, I still hate it. > In fact, 90% I boot of FreeBSD (at home). That's understandable. I boot FreeBSD/amd64 almost exclusively too. Only when I absolutely need Flash (and I very seldom do), I fire up VirtualBox o= n FreeBSD with a little OpenSolaris installation. Since this OpenSolaris guest lives in a single VirtualBox disk image, it doesn't clutter up my FreeBSD system, contrary to the whole Linux compat shims and RPMs needed to run the linux flash plugin. Of course, it's all a matter of personal tastes, likes and dislikes. I'd ra= ther have a native flash plugin for FreeBSD/amd64 too (Firefox and Opera), but this is unlikely in the near future, knowing the miserable track record of Adobe's FreeBSD "support". ;-) > Thanks, > Pongthep Regards, -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 18:51:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04ED106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plukawski@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A0B8FC21 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2934489fxm.3 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:51:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q5C8371VYTljgsEJgJ1r4YB85aqxsg7y6jH78MtkaWM=; b=i/+UjPLSFETPdKJH3SUEND0PRIXxVm887f3fwAxpR11YyzqjyMLlqWP3Lx8ON1GvDG tzJw25sqaZm6qB0pFuYZdkjHNe2LJUtHXZqt8aGpmW02X6YMyDZRtRa2WLix3AgGG1t4 4lNdJxw0TCz3oXv9DvDF1wrIVBha/ZsCMhJME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=YhCcyGqn4zcf0jQp+bwEoqZNUFoOMiC4Yug/k0+pIrer0p2ZjmGvr9nJk8fEGSt2v/ 7gfM6fk8le8EBiq8yvDl2EkTGL7+rJlEM3/iRHeEn4HRjO4v+oZSpO/DeVnl4/TVLJNZ N3x8/q/1GbAXyo3HqL7Umb8iiv6mLDQsF6fcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.5 with SMTP id o5mr67710hbg.160.1267815074821; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:51:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:51:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: Piotr Lukawski To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: plukawski@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:51:24 -0000 Illoai, Thanks a lot! Your solution works - system is up and running now :-) However, in such a case I really cannot understand why nobody can change just one parameter and put the file in a proper place in ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/ . It can simplify life for many people. Thanks again for your help. Take care, Piotr On 4 March 2010 05:51, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 3 March 2010 07:33, Piotr Lukawski wrote: > > Dears, > > I need to install Freebsd 8.0 using floppy and then ftp, but there are no > > floppy images in > > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/< > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/ > >mentioned > > in > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html > > I tried so install Freebsd 7 using availiable floppy (successful) and > update > > it to 8.0 (after 3 days finally error and now now whole /usr directory so > I > > am stacked). > > Could you please produce install floppy images for Freebsd 8.0? Please > > please please. I have no power to do the install of 7, upgrade and fail > > again :-( > > Thanks in adavance. > > Piotr > > Have you tried installing 8.0-RELEASE from your > 7.x floppies? I have heard rumour that it is possible > by just changing the release name under "View/Set > Various Installation Options". > > -- > -- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 19:09:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E14106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81BFC8FC1C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89511 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Mar 2010 19:09:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1267816162; bh=/YwEfDmcM4hW1mMVZbiuhVO5m5BB2w2xzvIoBgvvAcs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FVH5NLoFrsceBeO6ZKfo83tE3LPZXR8ILnGFi8c7JRpI6pRtlNV7K78PiPNVxaNoUsmWPgUC8qPAQq8ZzerYt2ZIbjvfUkQ52Y2x8qBZYoieriaS53noQmik2ZUR8+/TtktK+oe81KE/0nGxZumztc2Yh1TcqEuMGdWvZabrsQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zs83ELJl4fWtcCER4zYuAiGobezfs2Le/BgLCbHiGA+hsLGjZ+UWlEfnATIvOJAq730upYtza7t7sSnbAVzvHeQ53ALuSFWhQOAUpCwyZ6nwbNFMG389QXfPTdU4D3w4hpkMsNO2qFT+FZMU0SpEYzz9KBolY0VubxY1ts4OtEI=; Message-ID: <359839.89221.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jtPm0NwVM1n9ifMeMpDO_uaFrrXTUoCbQIW7Kluii.qUK49 G_9JVWjiu25pCMtR2K1MFzv0DhJT68PeTK4r14tMBfCZeUhcytjylvyz9.9_ HTve9v_naXLS8sJAEHfxLHcgj72Gtq7r_ZaNHXruf6GiMVwUDb7VHHg7O_a5 iEz0tm5qDoAZxn_whyQKlsPga2WWyKwV8dcIVhtVxO3Ct8RuYxEcEuGITxqt zYyVHgDU8I7vtDxB1PJHL.q7iDzquiytsZQOJj6a2ktUzLEmoDrDgvQf1EiF 5zBS9i4VY7JBuUdNrl7vDryEWZb3TIPwO3LckVqUjS8GDt9.g0SkguQ-- Received: from [85.144.145.49] by web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:09:22 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: john@starfire.mn.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:09:25 -0000 Thousands of ssh probes Friday, March 5, 2010 1:54 PM From: "John" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf rule in cases like this? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG ************************************************************************************************* Hi John, I'm using pf as a firewall on FreeBSD. I used this handy website: http://www.bgnett.no/~peter/pf/en/bruteforce.html and especially this part: max-src-conn is the number of simultaneous connections you allow from one host. In this example, I've set it at 100, in your setup you may want a slightly higher or lower value. max-src-conn-rate is the rate of new connections allowed from any single host, here 15 connections per 5 seconds. Again, you are the one to judge what suits your setup. I then looked at ssh itself. Key-based authentication only is what I'm allowing on my network now and I have put the AllowUsers directive in my sshd_config. At the moment I'm so paranoid that I'm reading into this Mandatory Access Control part of the handbook as well. Good luck,Dino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 19:22:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94BD1065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8328FC20 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25HRuJv000977; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:27:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o25HRuQN000974; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:27:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:27:56 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Pongthep Kulkrisada In-Reply-To: <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:27:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:22:08 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. > Some libraries are probably not updated??? > But ``make install'' success, so libraries should not be problems. > I don't know. When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 20:43:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F6A106566B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f199.google.com (mail-pz0-f199.google.com [209.85.222.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814AA8FC28 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37so2741205pzk.7 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:43:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hQjgJcX4CkBqfQemwTZGZixLeHuuYBu3Ha9YcnKCqb8=; b=Tq2SWZEcPeqPiOq5VsxPByD0WhKIJvSLtkQ4S09AQrunZubXfskH7UOFzSPv5I7bcz sFnATklcmnwBHoDAvSs8yKak5XoUUvKpyxGS5t6e4SteNw/3q8mPZXJs9zF137gHY2DT /G+D/38i9URLxFaBWmBmdVRKejHwCPs7LL3/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nHiJIhM1yewXQEKC4N+3llyuHmJoe1WiV6kqOEQl3g5y6MI0JMyJPdu2NeKwVY1q6f qO7sZ99VSk6Nu5OwZWjLsZQSVDtaPbzAppa0ZwJ2cdhv8YTLxSzwe5GMYChun6LmS+eX HRlN93O0m8DmxPMfWaFaXfw6TovPwQcqDHYdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.189.9 with SMTP id m9mr1029046waf.155.1267821784024; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:43:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:43:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: John Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:43:14 -0000 Replies interspersed On 3/5/10, John wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:03:53AM -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: >> On 03/05/10 06:54, John wrote: >> > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes >> > in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually >> > "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to >> > a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every >> > day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't >> > just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh >> > to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf >> > rule in cases like this? >> >> Can you not deny all ssh attempts and then allow only from certain, >> trusted IPs? > > Ah, I should have added that I travel a fair amount, and often > have to get to my systems via hotel WiFi or Aircard, so it's > impossible to predict my originating IP address in advance. If > that were not the case, this would be an excellent suggestion. I've been in that same boat. I eventually came to the decision to: Install PPTP server software, accepting connections from any IP. Once connected with PPTP, edit the sshd rule in pf to allow sshd connections. Optionally reconnect for sshd only. It's worked well. > >> -- >> Yours In Christ, >> >> PIT >> Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. >> Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org >> Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am >> subscribed. > -- > > John Lind > john@starfire.MN.ORG > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 16:33:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200A31065676 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C23B8FC15 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o25GXn4X043848; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:33:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 7IDNkCV6Jiis; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:33:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25GXcU5043841; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:33:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4B913261.10801@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:33:37 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <1108389354.20100305154152@sng.by> <861vfy6add.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20100305154654.GB17456@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86sk8e4vhj.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B912C41.8090505@infracaninophile.co.uk> <86ocj24ujo.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <4B912F93.7010102@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B912F93.7010102@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:12:31 +0000 Cc: John , Anton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training , "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:33:52 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/03/2010 16:12:11, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: >> Matthew> On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>> The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets >>>> blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a >>>> conference once. >> Matthew> Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... >> >> Oooh! And arpnetworks gives me a /48 in 6 for free. I could have thousands of >> them. :) > > Thousands? Try billions. Sagans and sagans. More than the maximum > possible number of hosts on the IPv4 internet. Muha ha Ha!!!!! I'd think we might have to increase the size of the container for /etc/rc.conf to do that, though? At any rate, that'd be a lot of "ifconfig" to read/edit/etc. KDK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 21:14:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003BA1065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E7F8FC27 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:14:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 27075031 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:14:21 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:14:09 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:14:08 -0600 Thread-Topic: Calculating kernel/user/idle time Thread-Index: Acq8qMtqUDfq8P98QnaAYf0hhfPcAw== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A640C@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Calculating kernel/user/idle time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:14:11 -0000 What's the proper way to calculate kernel/user/idle time? I know the raw va= lues come from sysctl kern.cp_time, but these values need to be "massaged"= based on the number of CPUs and so on. Can someone explain briefly what th= e algorithm is calculating the final percentages representing these times. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 22:16:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B241065672 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CB68FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so348034gyg.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:16:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=07hbK5Zsfu260G6C8ScGEFRPXkUTVh8Smp+UsWuJhv8=; b=m237Lpry6BwQeXyvyzafy8gAXa7dzLyIeJYfjOHwqLdkEnIUn/frXFkS1o4pmPaNf7 qQClIoklPbWkMceo6IZUMZkTWoPOTqyBYRhBaDXnrQK7UKw75QAS3HyuiwvpB3stBV2v TnsjCinM7frSsa/8MDaAM9c958NdWvQgHeH7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vi0wRmPpqJYq6zUgrfQgyHg6rkVp+XDz03L2smZSVq51ycpiS1TdqxwmKakK2a4eS4 BF4/PZBvN+CDr/btrxG3ImgP8JMEuVjw3887wrdcRqkxPJls/ccD+n6rLzKfn/tpx7Bo BtnL0IOYH7fJ7U/HrIjPZERENnCov1VfvbNkM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.30.7 with SMTP id h7mr2030256agj.87.1267827359979; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:15:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:15:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: plukawski@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:16:10 -0000 On 5 March 2010 13:51, Piotr Lukawski wrote: > On 4 March 2010 05:51, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >> On 3 March 2010 07:33, Piotr Lukawski wrote: >> > Dears, >> > I need to install Freebsd 8.0 using floppy and then ftp, but there are >> > no >> > floppy images . . . >> > Could you please produce install floppy images for Freebsd 8.0? Please >> > please please. I have no power to do the install of 7, upgrade and fai= l >> > again :-( >> >> Have you tried installing 8.0-RELEASE from your >> 7.x floppies? =A0I have heard rumour that it is possible >> by just changing the release name under "View/Set >> Various Installation Options". >> > Illoai, > Thanks a lot! Your solution works - system is up and running now :-) > However, in such a case I really cannot understand why nobody can change > just one parameter and put the file in a proper place in > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/. > It can simplify life for many people. > I'm glad it worked for you. :) I'm not aware of why the floppy images are no longer being generated, however, just repackaging the 7.x floppies is probably not the best idea: you can select a couple of options under 7.x that will likely break an 8.x install (I'm under the impression that "Dangerously Dedicated" disks do this). --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 22:53:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EEE106566C for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBFB38FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6095 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2010 22:53:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eSwqp24nQqxcOoq/IIo6mLg+9+p628q94Jtw+9zi8ybWBSAzn1nE4iVnjcjALh70YiA0HsgxKcepcqecc1kkdwxs962E6CQce2AuHzwqlH2nCQgiJiWZEXoH1Y8cYkaWhuWe4ARdD0ljD+5Xovu4FSWRyQnMJkjnD0VZBbMNjFQ= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Mar 2010 14:53:12 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: IfvnCdgVM1meFFB6SVdx2sEc1kYWN3VdqA0_0d3LeGAg16ceFub9WOm9JjSAq43Iv04joXhRZiWlMAjUm_yJWIRipGWuQC37v4ip5ntFU8RYegtIR61VKqpWiYXOOLFRpvYRTNvb45LYM0KRncExbAtDsaCfzIsEYRNNGttj..7k76yDMiZxvaBc9TL7_FIjJ5zGseL7yD2tJertMiss4ekllGLaMghEON2dTvLDvHuFo7.9As2iKsWLPodyNkzfqfnlKzwI1_NwIzVsXrlR8nbAHHwh87r3tOWbgfSyavW_PhZhwuHCDcBxEYi55JdNlRZz7ZBLVlNuRblbOcgsNAM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DB3D22825 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:53:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:53:11 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100305175311.7ebacf30@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:53:13 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:54:40 +0100 C. P. Ghost articulated: > Of course, it's all a matter of personal tastes, likes and dislikes. > I'd rather have a native flash plugin for FreeBSD/amd64 too (Firefox > and Opera), but this is unlikely in the near future, knowing the > miserable track record of Adobe's FreeBSD "support". ;-) There are dozens of utility programs available for Windows that I would love to have available on FreeBSD; however, that just is not going to happen. I have personally contacted the authors of several of these programs and have been told that they have no intention in investing countless time and money on a product that they would never be able to make a profit on. My absolute favorite password manager/generator "RoboForm", said that they would probably never invest in a *.nix version. They couldn't see how they could generate a profit doing so. Plus, I was told that due to the number of 'flavors' that *.nix/BSD comes in, writing and support would be enormous. However, they said they would keep it in mind. Adobe, a commercial entity, obviously feels that the cost of supporting the FreeBSD community is not a financially prudent business venture. In the finally analysis, it is their product to do with as they see fit, unless the socialist EC starts to stick their fascist nose into someone else's business. Adobe never stated that they would support FreeBSD; at least as far as I can tell. That would sort of eliminate any pseudo "Breach of Contract" accusation against them. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Fortune favors the lucky. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 22:58:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82099106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E398FC2B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o25MwL59072800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25MwLc5075457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o25MwLYZ075454; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:20 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20100305225818.GA12122@dan.emsphone.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A640C@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A640C@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:58:22 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Calculating kernel/user/idle time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:58:24 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 05), Peter Steele said: > What's the proper way to calculate kernel/user/idle time? I know the raw > values come from sysctl kern.cp_time, but these values need to be > "massaged" based on the number of CPUs and so on. Can someone explain > briefly what the algorithm is calculating the final percentages > representing these times. They shouldn't need to be massaged. Just sample the values at two intervals, and your percentages can be calculated by dividing each delta by the sum of the deltas (since the sum equals the total CPU usage over the interval, by definition). If you want to calculate per-cpu usage, use the kern.cp_times sysctl instead. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 23:07:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79345106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331608FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.23.170.145] (helo=anti-virus03-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1NnXdF-00064Q-1S; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:31:57 +0000 Received: from [92.234.61.128] (helo=the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1NnXdE-0006IJ-G2; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:31:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unknown [192.168.0.6]) by the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA0AC66A3B; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4B9107D8.1020605@the-rubber-chicken-network.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:32:08 +0000 From: Mike Woods User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:07:03 -0000 On 05/03/2010 13:26, John wrote: > Ah, I should have added that I travel a fair amount, and often > have to get to my systems via hotel WiFi or Aircard, so it's > impossible to predict my originating IP address in advance. If > that were not the case, this would be an excellent suggestion. What about the option of vpn access ? ------------------------ Mike Woods Full of squishy cynicism From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 23:14:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DC2106564A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045818FC1B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:14:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAPobkUvUnwYz/2dsb2JhbACcPLZihHcEi00 Received: from pih-webmail01.servers.plus.net (HELO webmail.plus.net) ([212.159.6.51]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2010 23:02:36 +0000 Received: from 212.159.115.167 (SquirrelMail authenticated user custompc) by webmail.plus.net with HTTP; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -0000 From: "Graham Bentley" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:14:09 -0000 > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 23:40:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D052B1065677 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEBD8FC16 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.43]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:40:15 -0800 Message-ID: <4B919658.1080306@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:40:08 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <201003051558.o25Fwu1U011756@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <201003051558.o25Fwu1U011756@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2010 23:40:15.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[34C02950:01CABCBD] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:40:17 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > Fbsd1 writes: >> There is hard coded logic that is stopping you from doing what you want. >> Looks like you are SOL. > > Me thinks you are absolutely correct. I was only hoping > I was doing something wrong and a slight syntax change would > make it work. Thank you and thanks to Maciej Milewski > for his suggestion. > > I have one last trick up my sleve before giving up > completely on this idea. Maybe I can hijack one of the rc.x > scripts to cause it to spew a memory disk image of the mfsboot > code on to the freshly-unmounted /dev/ad0 device during a > reboot. Since the goal is to completely rebuild the system > anyway, this would be the last gasp of the present system as it > gets ready to reboot, hopefully with mfsbsd and all hard drives > dismounted. > > Martin McCormick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > just dd the image to what ever drive you want From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 00:12:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411BA106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EF28FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 594061DE276; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:11:30 -0800 (PST) To: Tim Judd References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.18; tzolkin = 9 Etznab; haab = 16 Kayab Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:11:30 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Tim Judd's message of "Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:43:03 -0700") Message-ID: <86lje6z4ul.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:12:01 -0000 >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Judd writes: Tim> I've been in that same boat. I eventually came to the decision to: Tim> Install PPTP server software, accepting connections from any IP. Whoa. Here we are, talking about making it *more* secure, and you go the other direction.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Tunneling_Protocol#Security_of_the_PPTP_protocol In short, you can't take anyone seriously who suggests PPTP when talking about security. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 00:28:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A75106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11AA18FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24089 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2010 00:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2010 00:28:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ey1AzwA4BZAxpaXz1q/5hJHEEsmetK8GkCfB1dAXI9Xdudgu1fdN11PIRzjSc/5+oZt2/ex5/amYMXmqsrVzUE7bIDAwjEtHUfyFOUIlE0MOdAXafn5WW2lPV8cGD6CJ; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnhsB-0001GP-AI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:28:04 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:28:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:28:04 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: amd64 won't install on Core Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:28:05 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60 with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong? error message: CPU doesn't support long mode --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuRoZQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXp/wCeLp9GH0F69ybO6xbYb5VF5Btf zOEAni/VpRD7jP49c8Hrz7ERfCk/d504 =0yse -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 00:30:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44172106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE74B8FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o260UnM8094918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:30:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B91A238.6020206@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:30:48 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:30:49 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o260UnM8094918 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:30:53 -0000 On 3/5/2010 6:28 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60 > with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong? > > error message: > > CPU doesn't support long mode > You have a CPU that does not have 64-bit extensions. You need to install the i386 version. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 00:35:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D52A1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C788FC47 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9504402; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:35:47 -0500 Received: from [216.143.146.251] (account laura@radel.com HELO 222.sub-75-199-113.myvzw.com) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP id 9504400; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:35:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4B91A366.1080805@radel.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:35:50 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86lje6z4ul.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86lje6z4ul.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:35:48 -0000 Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Judd writes: > > Tim> I've been in that same boat. I eventually came to the decision to: > Tim> Install PPTP server software, accepting connections from any IP. > > Whoa. Here we are, talking about making it *more* secure, and > you go the other direction.... > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Tunneling_Protocol#Security_of_the_PPTP_protocol > > > In short, you can't take anyone seriously who suggests PPTP when > talking about security. Especially since rolling out OpenVPN and your own little CA to issue yourself and your 10 best friends certificates is pretty easy. I find it easier to wrap my head around than something like IPSEC for supporting a "trusted server on trusted network attached to by laptops that wander around in sometimes sleazy parts of the Internet" model. Just make sure you've kept up to date with your SSL libraries. :-) --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 01:02:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06725106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91F78FC18 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so2271510gwa.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:02:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=QHpSN5zZ8pZyg+cCfYaX8oCJie9vNsHrICOJKKuCvaE=; b=o2b0huK4xhyrkatVLP85cQOtm7pRgl99XOJo/SGXx17M+iBP2WXc2QA9jWdkUvAzE3 V1Yd2Q7hBDzkZyccWgUnZt9+nuevtUDl1JBdQXQiM0xKTlNsYUslClGrqaupQ/eQgz/X CLR614nvzPEpJVKgbRROg2sIG1diTd5aZQzHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; b=uWvHVLgTpXJyxH1d8tcKxNC/2/yGHo6GJiShoGc1ANMfUhll+KUoVG2lzReCSH1fox VMNgOD7anc7xNtnQDaZ4EWHk6XNmEiANaicXKMNN9OTQaPiyHxA4j6l6Si0EAoeENeCw z+IobxgzK6EAwFbU5CvAZYcL34to6q7LVuJrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.127.27 with SMTP id z27mr1761021ybc.104.1267837348340; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:02:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:02:28 -0600 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:02:35 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Graham Bentley wrote: > >> It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. > > I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! > Bingo! If the OP wants M$-like flash support, then . . . well . . . use M$ (and its friend$). It's not really fair to complain about the admirable work of fBSD devs. Keep in mind that they volunteer their time. If fBSD (or anything else) is not suiting your needs, either fix it or go somewhere else. I'm sure the fBSD community would welcome a hack that gets m$-like flash support ;-) I find it a relief not to have those damn flash ads/nonsense "flashing" in front of me. FWIW - I did use gnash for a while and it wasn't too bad. Although, ny needs may not be comparable to the OP's. He really hasn't made that clear. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 01:05:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4801B106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1007D8FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5535 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2010 01:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2010 01:05:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=QgTDlH7DGn4KkRgKBGZlZ8tqEytaAIwQoj5J86G7RaCmbZqwc+3Z3CRqCSAt70q7xXBtazR9PN3qHMFBbCYFR3fczJXqFeNidS/6bT4bcABqJlOLDwww4b2I7HXDPlBo; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NniSM-0002lm-BV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:05:27 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:05:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:05:29 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100306010529.GA5961@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> <4B91A238.6020206@tundraware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B91A238.6020206@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:05:28 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:30:48PM -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 3/5/2010 6:28 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T= 60 > > with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. What am I doing wrong? > >=20 > > error message: > >=20 > > CPU doesn't support long mode > >=20 >=20 > You have a CPU that does not have 64-bit extensions. You need to install > the i386 version. Oh, crap, you're right. I was thinking 64b, but it's 32b instruction set dual core. My mistake. Please disregard my brain-dead question. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuRqlkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWT8ACfdXQGqyOlhChYGGHxyIhUPkGb XT0AoM/bm9IBxQTF5UxkFEsmApMQX436 =s9TZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 01:32:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCC21065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaron.lewis1989@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com (mail-yw0-f191.google.com [209.85.211.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96C78FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so1714305ywh.14 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:32:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D0YWXILjbxtj0CFHupj0Jm3lFCbfN64s5IlfaoQ21Fs=; b=JUMd+DD5tDS670976ZzhnpKDuJEOXYb4x3DkA9ty8LlekyXQOayS//EA50di8V1pcK BTXaXbFakoZiPpJvVUtOVf8KpAhipZ7MwLqCRfTjqUm91o4HjtH0d87YKjnZNmEeczjE /zYpCwYyHzh7Rh5imTH/0o30FPBx11UDOTl2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=IWO1CaKT55bcKeTQKVR1ihrw98+CPJ0LmymNCgtJjD4FSdJMyEC+teqH7BtWOq1HL0 uIBEYWeQumiLvW2wj9oDLCiqpOL6jEiZNMJ5nz2uMxYA6TsTw0i5FKdXur9QjXzW7z2M y6OQut+HugWmq2QirZMdhG54CI54cTHMvrlDQ= Received: by 10.150.76.4 with SMTP id y4mr1779948yba.56.1267839125950; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [119.162.140.90] ([119.162.140.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm735875yxd.44.2010.03.05.17.32.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:32:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B91B09E.3010800@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:32:14 +0800 From: Aaron Lewis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <4B911334.1040703@gmail.com> <201003051624.56569.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <86wrxq4vqn.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86wrxq4vqn.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=A476D2E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED] Re: How to get "hints" of software installed by Ports ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:32:12 -0000 Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan McKeown writes: >>>>>> > > Jonathan> pkg_info -D > > I like "pkg_info -DL 'port*'", because it also shows *where* things > got installed... sometimes, I can't find the conf files. :) > > Yeah , that helps. -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 irc: A4r0n on freenode From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 01:44:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC956106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905FB8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.local (ppp-82-135-73-90.dynamic.mnet-online.de [82.135.73.90]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD6AA1C0871 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:44:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:44:13 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:44:17 -0000 On 05/03/10 13:54, John wrote: > My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes > in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually > "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to > a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every > day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't > just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh > to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf > rule in cases like this? This is a frequent question on the list, search the archives. Basically there are few things that you can do: 1. limit the access to a range of IPs, for example, even if you travel a lot you go to al limited number of countries, why permit access from other continents? 2. limit access to certain users, there is no need to allow games or root user to authenticate via ssh. Use AllowUsers or AllowGroups to restrict access to real users. 3. limit the amount of concurrent non-authenticated connections, number of failed attempts and similar. 4. prohibit password authentication. If the problem is that these attacks consume significant bandwidth then moving your service to a different port may be a good solution, but if your concern is security, then the above is more effective. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 02:40:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE30E1065674 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95AF8FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.174.43]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:40:02 -0800 Message-ID: <4B91C07D.7090503@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:39:57 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spellberg_robert References: <4B9038B0.9050401@emailrob.com> In-Reply-To: <4B9038B0.9050401@emailrob.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2010 02:40:02.0800 (UTC) FILETIME=[5294FF00:01CABCD6] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: fbsd_questions Subject: Re: [ fbsd_questions ] tar(1) vs. msdos_fs: a death_spiral ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:40:03 -0000 spellberg_robert wrote: > greetings, all --- > > i confess that this one has me flummoxed. > the short question: does tar(1) spit_up when extracting onto an > msdos_fs hard_drive ? > > [ i tried the mailing_list archives "tar AND msdos", for -questions, > -chat, -bugs, -newbies, -performance ] > [ other research as indicated ] > > > > i have no problem using tar(1) on ufs. > large files, small files; if i am on ufs, everything is fine. > > i have been creating tarballs from medium_size msdos_fs drives, also. > this worked fine. > i would check them by extracting into a ufs root_point. > no problem. > > this week, i tried to do something new. > i wanted to take a tarball, already on ufs, that was created from an > msdos_fs drive and > extract it onto an msdos_fs drive. > this, to me, actually seems like a reaasonable idea; but, what do i know ? > > well, it starts out just fine, but, it rapidly degenerates into what is, > normally, infinite_loop land. > when ps(1) says cpu_% of 1%, 2%, 5%; ok, it is an active process. > in about ten minutes, tar(1) enters 90% cpu. > after 20 minutes, 99%. > > i does not matter if X_windows is running. > foreground or background process, no difference. > > it seems to be working correctly because the error_file is always of > zero_size. > i suspect that if i left it alone, after a few days, it would finish. > > > > some details > [ everything is ufs, using 8kB/1kB, except "/mnt", which is clustered > as indicated; > of course, the tarball is not named "ball", > nor is the path, to the tarball, named "path", but, then, you knew that > ]. > > > mkdir /path_c > mkdir /path_c/88_x > > mkdir /path_d > mkdir /path_d/88_x > > > mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s1 /mnt [ fat_32, about > 6_GB, 4_KB cluster, the "c:\" drive, primary partition. ] > cd /mnt > ( tar cvplf /path_c/99_ball.tar . > > /path_c/90_cvpl.out ) > > & /path_c/91_cvpl.err & [ real time 16m 07s, > exit_status 0 ] > cd / ; umount /mnt > > > mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s5 /mnt [ fat_32, about > 12_GB, 8_KB cluster, the "d:\" drive, extended partition. ] > cd /mnt > ( tar cvplf /path_d/99_ball.tar . > > /path_d/90_cvpl.out ) > > & /path_d/91_cvpl.err & [ real time 20m 15s, > exit_status 0 ] > cd / ; umount /mnt > > > cd /path_c/88_x > ( tar xvplf ../99_ball.tar > > ../92_xvpl.out ) > > & ../93_xvpl.err & [ real time 08m 11s; > exit_status 0 ] > diff ../9[02]* [ exit_status 0; the > tables_of_contents are the same ] > ls -l .. [ visually inspect > the error_files to be of zero_size - verified ] > > > cd /path_d/88_x > ( tar xvplf ../99_ball.tar > > ../92_xvpl.out ) > > & ../93_xvpl.err & [ real time 12m 37s; > exit_status 0 ] > diff ../9[02]* [ exit_status 0; the > tables_of_contents are the same ] > ls -l .. [ visually inspect > the error_files to be of zero_size - verified ] > > > [ note that this approach works; it is a good excuse to refill my > coffee_cup. ] > > > [ physically replace the source hard_drive w/ 80_GB capacity, 32_KB > cluster, primary_partition only, virgin hard_drive. > this destination hard_drive was "fdisk"ed and "format"ed > yesterday_morning; > this drive was "scandisk"ed yesterday for 12 hours, using the > "thorough" option, > it has zero bad clusters [ i wanted to eliminate the drive as the > problem ] > ]. > > > mount -v -t msdos /dev/ad1s1 /mnt > > mkdir /mnt/path_cc > cd /mnt/path_cc > > ( tar xvplf /path_c/99_ball.tar > > ../92_xvpl.out ) > > & ../93_xvpl.err & [ started this at > 18:05_utc, it is now about 21:35_utc; > the toc_file, from > the 8_minute extraction above, has 87517 lines in it; > the current > toc_file has only 12667 lines. > ] > > [ this is the second hard_drive i have tried this on, this week; > i will probably kill the process as xterm is being updated about 8 > seconds apart, now. > ] > > > on the first hard_drive [ i have not done this on the second drive, yet ] > i noted that i had a successful extraction on the ufs drive. > not being the smartest person around, i had, what i thought to be, a > --brilliant-- idea, > "what if i try a recursive copy of the successful extraction" ? > > this is interesting; > the recursive copy started_out like gang_busters, then, just like the > extraction, slowly bogged_down to 99%_cpu. > > hmmm..., two different msdos_fs hard_drives, two different > normally_reliable utilities, same progressive_hogging of the cpu. > this makes me wonder about the msdos_fs hard_drive, which is, rapidly, > becoming the only remaining common factor. > > > > ok. > i tried the mailing lists. > right now, i am web_page searching; > tar(1) seems to be slow in some situations, but, i have not, yet, > found --this-- situation. > also, in reading the man_pages for mount(1) and tar(1), i am starting to > wonder if this could be a tar(1) "block_size" issue. > > i am not doing any encryption or compression, in either direction. > last check at about 22:45_utc: 99.0%_cpu, 0.1%_mem. > > > > does anyone have any thoughts ? > > NO. I tar /usr/home/me to /c/backup where /c is a second hard drive with msdosfs on it. also do tar to /a where /a is a msdos floppy. In both cases the speed is always the same on the same PC. Now running tar on a 386 8mhz cpu versus a pentum/pro 2ghz cpu is night and day difference in speed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 03:31:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076CB106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 03:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00D38FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 03:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o263VOtJ017461 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4B91CC8B.4010301@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:31:23 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is there a way to know how much memory is currently allocated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:31:25 -0000 Does FreeBSD malloc library provide any API way to know how many bytes are currently allocated by the current process? Memory image size isn't adequate, since it's always much larger because of various reasons, like an extra-memory allocated for the needs of malloc library itself an also due to non-freed blocks, which are left allocated by the library. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 03:49:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24BE106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 03:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812A28FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 03:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDA33D0E3; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:49:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o263nHtW002182; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:49:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:49:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk Message-Id: <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:49:19 -0000 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -0000, "Graham Bentley" wrote: > > > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. > > I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed a working "Flash" support from my system. I rather like to see empty "plug-in content" boxes instead of being annoyed by "Flash" stuff that is mainly used for advertising. Have you noticed that "Flash" has taken the place of animated GIFs, adding sound and providing nothing that couldn't be done using existing standards? I'm sure you have. A growing part of today's "web designers" seem to have accepted "Flash" as a replacement for valid HTML, and even for invalid HTML. Have you ever heared of a modern web browser that forces you to install, let's say, a plugin for viewing JPG images, and this plugin is only available for an arbitrary chosen subset of operating systems, and loaded with patents and other cripple-stuff? And it forces you to have an up-to-date computer, of course, with an expensive OS (free OSes are out of scope already). And all the clever "web designers" now replace their working sites with JPG - even the text is given as a JPG image. And it is assumed that you have the plugin installed. And of course, there's a new version of the plugin every year. All this just to view a JPG image. Could you imagine such a stupid situation? It's so idiotic, but it's the reality. That's the situation with "Flash". And as I have experienced it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without "Flash". I may review my opinion, if given some reason to do so. But as it has already been mentioned, that's a very individual decision, based upon likes and dislikes. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 03:59:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C8B106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 03:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04308FC17 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 03:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o263wuaM098596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:58:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4B91D301.9060606@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:58:57 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4B91B36D.1020507@locolomo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:58:56 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o263wuaM098596 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:59:07 -0000 On 3/5/2010 7:44 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 05/03/10 13:54, John wrote: >> My nightly security logs have thousands upon thousands of ssh probes >> in them. One day, over 6500. This is enough that I can actually >> "feel" it in my network performance. Other than changing ssh to >> a non-standard port - is there a way to deal with these? Every >> day, they originate from several different IP addresses, so I can't >> just put in a static firewall rule. Is there a way to get ssh >> to quit responding to a port or a way to generate a dynamic pf >> rule in cases like this? > > This is a frequent question on the list, search the archives. Basically > there are few things that you can do: > > 1. limit the access to a range of IPs, for example, even if you travel a > lot you go to al limited number of countries, why permit access from > other continents? > > 2. limit access to certain users, there is no need to allow games or > root user to authenticate via ssh. Use AllowUsers or AllowGroups to > restrict access to real users. > > 3. limit the amount of concurrent non-authenticated connections, number > of failed attempts and similar. > > 4. prohibit password authentication. > > If the problem is that these attacks consume significant bandwidth then > moving your service to a different port may be a good solution, but if > your concern is security, then the above is more effective. > > BR, Erik > I solved this problem a slightly different way with dynamic TCP wrapper control: http://www.tundraware.com/Software/tperimeter/ -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 04:33:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D904A106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f211.google.com (mail-gx0-f211.google.com [209.85.217.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799778FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so249469gxk.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:33:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=rzUmz/rnkz8N1s67ljYHIuydo1BZ4aSmhjGqSbCSZgU=; b=HrYuk6eTxVgWhaIDzZVjnNzxGMdv4f8fLaqbC8EO2jxnP5LnhGr3abDeAqPqC9Eaa/ f4KfUbFmi/GysHMjKeKNdDHSiRw4MyRM3OqujhSu5dRJAPczYkSiOrtRNq+t+yqDa0xg xVnuMAhry6aZUcbkyNTmfeiSfAU+Qb1/n2AdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=IBzjHomZp7j0vmbL8VMcMwQW26EgSRJ80e1cz7Ffxhs8XNhsTKFerShdurfzIUaQTr Ax37MZIMTY7Mdr6mowZDa3QtVchmZ23cVl0NbnJO+clqqUO5NgjFMRAvgeODnOKL6/Xq l4PYXFj1E0sgBrdQMAJKZzYsPeLQRQJ4NJ8O4= Received: by 10.150.214.3 with SMTP id m3mr1876729ybg.115.1267850014637; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.100.223.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.100.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm790259ywg.35.2010.03.05.20.33.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:33:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:35:13 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:33:42 -0000 * Warren Block (wblock@wonkity.com) wrote: > When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. All operating systems can always distinguish the system and packages. For instance, gcc is tightly coupled with the system, it will be upgraded automatically while upgrading the system. Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports relating to their work. They do not have to rebuild KDE or GNOME, for example. I myself, after upgrading the system, I always rebuild MOST of textual ports like vim, fetchmail, apache, etc and all ports required by them. For GUI application, I keep updating ONLY web browser because the old version is usually prone to vulnerability issues. If it is not enough, please tell me. :-) Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 04:43:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09869106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDB58FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 04:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so2342511gwa.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:43:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=4V6bEjm+GZtqbuzNknrGt12/RySKPMYZFwTmt0ajZMw=; b=GM4KY4Zx11e0KxpgQwarDFMhjCnl0VVW+ku/ejWuFcUcZBU78nNZGD2S6pZmBuZlBv e7SpontByJlunaKyQTxmnv7+CRXZdzXMuaVxfVInz3V4uxEacq1uhQK0l/UgA4Dk3Ag2 JN5pJrBCP0hubDiXFno0cwnZmEw002k+JfBog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=Ud5+zf0HRUdfF+t/1h+GnmHdqF3iv5UoDSphpN+MePSjOM7L4l8lIQZlKhvhAmBbFB ciG8QTqV60lp1lnwgreGZqteQxvKCr8F5U4YQsaudPF/UW9UeA+DCbOqGelJ2MwJe5eF Q36WKaNYrKEcOQMLMaObTJFwTnNFPlFyqWCkg= Received: by 10.91.203.14 with SMTP id f14mr2468571agq.31.1267850624705; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.100.223.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.100.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm815149yxd.45.2010.03.05.20.43.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:43:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:45:23 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: daniele Message-ID: <20100306044523.GB1612@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: daniele , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100305163213.GA1272@gmail.com> <20100305164600.GA1500@gmail.com> <20100305172341.GC1500@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:43:53 -0000 * daniele (glimp@live.com) wrote: > Dont worry I wanted to try to help for what I can. I installed the > plugin this morning and I was curious. Thank you again for your kind. > It's strange though. The plugin is there. I dont know if there's a kind > of log somewhere to see if it "sees" it. I also don't know. :-( > The last option I am thinking of in this respect is this : > From the opera web browser interface find the menu "tools" and select > it then -> preferences -> advanced > > Look at the "content" menu. "Enable plugins" item must be activated and > then the "plug-in options" must show at least this path > "/usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/linux-opera " and also inform that it > finds the flash plugin. > > let me know ! But for the moment I can not think of anything more :-/ The followings are all enabled. animated images sound in Web pages JavaScript Java plug-ins JavaScript Options... blank path Java Options... blank path Plug-in Options... Detected plug-ins are blank Plug-in path are as followings. /usr/local/share/opera/plugins/ /usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/opera/ /usr/local/lib/npapi/symlinks/linux-opera/ Thanks, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 05:20:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CE0106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 05:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5D08FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 05:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so1490403pvg.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:20:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ixSFCGSgvm2571wTHwF6YoA6vPrL+w59AOwpBW04YLY=; b=XaAopY/38ILzLKYCw+jb/wjMZZD43uOSIhqAy+sohAxhpzrR5zXTDauFugs3lqMxVw hamvvfNi3pMytrgxARZHSuMK8mJwPAAbue9Hiw4eBpREXK6sgNPIHglUho1H6khUtCY6 u8aOyuGrtvdHpZaitdfyQbHoknptEur9/SrJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lETsinD+grVEfl9l2KqKFRAq/5B4g+f+Zb2WG8jD/42JgbGkhOyCJuRxyt0O/kgh4F h93GKaByEv4AMQlQVoIIvzszhVlAppVQuzrzMsW/7GGys42GTBElsttQ4XX1ScPK2erW 5twIuOTpzTjzxdWGR6A3b9o7VYlNN1oF5Iuio= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.38.25 with SMTP id q25mr1097997waj.209.1267852854480; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:20:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86lje6z4ul.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86lje6z4ul.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 22:20:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: "Randal L. Schwartz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:20:58 -0000 On 3/5/10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Judd writes: > > Tim> I've been in that same boat. I eventually came to the decision to: > Tim> Install PPTP server software, accepting connections from any IP. > > Whoa. Here we are, talking about making it *more* secure, and > you go the other direction.... > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Tunneling_Protocol#Security_of_the_PPTP_protocol > > > In short, you can't take anyone seriously who suggests PPTP when > talking about security. > Randal, It's not meant as the solution for remote access. It's only a stopgap so you can ssh into your router and add the remote IP. Then disconnect from the VPN you've configured, PPTP or not, and use SSH. And the fact that I haven't (yet) seen random bots try vpn will keep my logs clean. I'm sorry, I respect Randal very much, but.. A) ..wikipedia? that's informative and useful, but not authoritative in any way. B) It's connected for maybe 5 minutes at most. While connected, your ssh session is still encrypted while you add the current remote IP. I stand by my statements. The other way (which requires a cron job) is to setup your roaming laptop with a dyndns address (or similar service) and have your router re-load it's firewall config periodically for any possible IPv4/IPv6 address changes to be picked up. I haven't done this to finish yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 05:46:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2EC1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 05:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD2A8FC19 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 05:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.123.67.228] (unknown [166.205.138.164]) by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF681DE18C; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:45:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Randal L. Schwartz" To: Tim Judd In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) References: <20100305125446.GA14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <4B910139.1080908@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305132604.GC14774@elwood.starfire.mn.org> <86lje6z4ul.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-Id: <29498FEE-E7FF-44E4-90E7-86D8BD9B1B7C@stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 21:45:49 -0800 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:46:26 -0000 That was just the quick summary. Google for "PPTP security" and you'll see a top link from Bruce Schneier who basically says no way to it. Sent from my iPhone, so blame Steve Jobs for any speeling misteaks. On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > ..wikipedia? that's informative and useful, but not authoritative > in any way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 06:11:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA65106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 522A48FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30565 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2010 06:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2010 06:11:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=aXbxalnFmPjopv5iDnH2kcTfgJ8rBeytFY+OTc+M1Bybfow77o4HF8QnUlogFlirMKXJ0nroGWO9gU2IAgzs9OxXyQ+3hbpKEWN0DtZNFTxaomN6TnPWvbdEEodooT7s; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.104]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnnEG-0003fc-R0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:11:13 -0700 Message-ID: <4B91F1F0.5020605@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:10:56 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B9048F9.1060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305144625.GA43010@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20100305144625.GA43010@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7E897AB676F52487D026B0C6" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:11:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7E897AB676F52487D026B0C6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/05/10 08:46, Frank Shute wrote: > If you read the manpage for xdm(1) you will see that the script that > is run on login is ~/.xsession >=20 > Try putting "exec wmaker" in there. >=20 > To run xdm from boot, you have to edit /etc/ttys and then: >=20 > # kill -HUP 1 >=20 > Look at this: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 Thank you kind sir. Now to figure out how to set the ~/.xsession file up automatically upon account creation (not an issue now, but might be later= ). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig7E897AB676F52487D026B0C6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLkfH2AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0nAoH/0zgTfBOyyitt/fO38wEsN92 h5tspV5VOTdAWAj+S9sPwgZsiFJiaV9s5MUvrNqVA/pYzfkaoaYvX6ahW3meZ929 dGGkC1tl7sDfFa7yHjg0fpgoIWcPeW+tVXyzdVKV2dZbLC0lWrU+3PyqqrhitHVZ SsRAHwtJ2cvAA90OJ1IZh0flfvnbTmp3LrnFllzx27FkumhI5a0P45p00+nSPin5 CejPewN7B3fC7udkYcbbTcw1Haz5IU4c4u8IJyrJ4Jx3guo4HLzlCa7GXg+ieI8j ofF+nAUdMttNFvJyo1EABEW+cjpZq2CsyXnaco7rgxVmRTs/HZPPYp2RrKW5Muc= =3XjP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7E897AB676F52487D026B0C6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 06:21:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414101065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B0C8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:21:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G179 G180 G181 G182 G186 G187 G198 G285 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTPS id 31065017 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:21:21 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.200]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:18:48 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:18:47 -0600 Thread-Topic: Calculating kernel/user/idle time Thread-Index: Acq8ubx0zDBkPBVdQZ2wDtgx1JnnTwAOuC/Q Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A64F8@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3A1A640C@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20100305225818.GA12122@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100305225818.GA12122@dan.emsphone.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Calculating kernel/user/idle time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:21:12 -0000 >They shouldn't need to be massaged. Just sample the values at two interva= ls, and your percentages can be calculated by dividing >each delta by the sum of the deltas (since the sum equals the total CPU us= age over the interval, by definition). If you want to >calculate per-cpu usage, use the kern.cp_times sysctl instead. That's the detail I was missing, needing to take two samples. That should s= olve the problem I was having. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 06:33:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A66106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1798FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o266XrPr053953; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:33:55 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:33:53 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <20100305185135.DD214106576C@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100306172517.Q17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100305185135.DD214106576C@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:33:58 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets > > blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a > > conference once. > > Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... I understand why IPv6 would confuse them, but don't follow why higher numbered MXs would be more attractive to them in the first place? Are they assuming a 'secondary' MX will be more likely to accept spam? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 06:38:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56531065670 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F8D8FC1E for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EDC1E65C; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:38:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o266clHf002644; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:38:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:38:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Programmer In Training Message-Id: <20100306073847.54a0daef.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4B91F1F0.5020605@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B9048F9.1060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305144625.GA43010@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B91F1F0.5020605@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:38:50 -0000 On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:10:56 -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: > On 03/05/10 08:46, Frank Shute wrote: > > > If you read the manpage for xdm(1) you will see that the script that > > is run on login is ~/.xsession > > > > Try putting "exec wmaker" in there. > > > > To run xdm from boot, you have to edit /etc/ttys and then: > > > > # kill -HUP 1 > > > > Look at this: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Thank you kind sir. A small addition: In order to be able to use X with an initialisation file even when not using XDM (i. e. starting X by "startx") AND not having to maintain two startup files (.xsession and .xinitrc) AND furthermore incorporating shell settings for the shell of choice (default: the C shell), you can use this approach: ~/.xsession #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc It incorporates the shell settings and then continues running as .xinitrc - so xdm can pick this up. If you run "startx", .xsession isn't used, but .xinitrc is used. So this script contains what you want to automate, e. g. ~/.xinitrc #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --fb 1400x1050 xrandr --size 1400x1050 xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a xset b 100 1000 15 & xset r rate 250 30 & xset s off & xset -dpms & exec wmaker The "#!/bin/sh" at the beginning isn't needed, according to the documentation. > Now to figure out how to set the ~/.xsession file up > automatically upon account creation (not an issue now, but might be later). You can use /usr/share/skel for the templates, it will be used by the adduser program. Create "dot.xsession" in this directory and modify it according to your default settings. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 06:56:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792821065670 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ptkrisada@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293828FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so510096gyg.13 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:55:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=96ZlbhmtDJZ18r7Q5X9DOZMIyAam7Ss47+08BrRAiV4=; b=Sk6ZwVC4TkEp9q82OAhATt5CLla/hLM+4kyoV2XWQxityrN2w4Fp+GYzeDX4zvVexW 4+WaoxhRneUKaFldZjBLDP8nu33z50t3wHTXFnWHWv7VV3zHbwFNf7KJdg4NZn67m1GL hvtfEqpFAkAnQVoQpGHwEnQblCBiWb8tusKuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=T8999tgNLM12DRQksT/F4ANUiDvsP8yjTIHkvm+RVIcXuelhhwRzqlS+D6/N6N7DaV dhYR1Brl2ZJ4Nw2LwVAsypw1+Oir5il3mKaErHu2CkOg5VVsWFoEGF2ldKAWHCmlHo5j /4zZlAhb4Pjc5ONhg0SWys+nBHW4UKc3YyHsg= Received: by 10.100.224.19 with SMTP id w19mr3951151ang.208.1267858558467; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (125.27.100.223.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [125.27.100.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm826002ywf.23.2010.03.05.22.55.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:55:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:57:36 +0700 From: Pongthep Kulkrisada To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-ID: <20100306065736.GA2237@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: "C. P. Ghost" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:56:09 -0000 * C. P. Ghost (cpghost@cordula.ws) wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada = wrote: > > % uname -a > > FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec = =A01 19:12:37 ICT 2009 =A0 =A0 root@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sy= s/GENERIC =A0i386 >=20 > So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping? I don't know what do you mean. Normally, FBSD issues new STABLE RELEASE once a year (approx). Whenever new release or new branch is available, I shall do either wget iso images, or cvsup/csup and buildworld. The time between RELEASEs, there are patches. But FBSD teams stated that those patches are not well tested comparing to R= ELEASE. So I do not update the system until new STABLE RELEASE is available again. > That's understandable. I boot FreeBSD/amd64 almost exclusively too. Only > when I absolutely need Flash (and I very seldom do), I fire up VirtualBox= on > FreeBSD with a little OpenSolaris installation. Since this OpenSolaris > guest lives in a single VirtualBox disk image, it doesn't clutter up my > FreeBSD system, contrary to the whole Linux compat shims and RPMs > needed to run the linux flash plugin. I did not install VirtualBox like VM Ware. I only use dual boot FBSD and Wi= ndows. I think many times to install VM Ware. But I am too lazy to do it. ;-p 1. In my opinion UFS2 is much more superior than NTFS. I'm not quite sure if UFS2 can reside in NTFS very well. (in case Windows is a host OS, and FBSD is a guest OS.) 2. My friend also suggests me that host OS can share device drivers to gues= t OS. I'm not sure, anybody can confirm this? if so, we can install FBSD on an= y laptops and use shared drivers from host OS (Windows or OS-X). Normally I only use console. My life with FBSD is not so colorful (excepted syntax highlighting in vim editor). I also have KDE installed. But I don't use it as much as console. Whenever I need flash (not often). I use my other computer (I have 2 comput= ers) or reboot Windows. Cheers, Pongthep From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 08:02:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FA71065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout04.t-online.de (mailout04.t-online.de [194.25.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20A88FC16 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de (fwd03.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1Nnoxx-0004dy-Ct; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:02:29 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (Z2kHAsZErhEDREvuujMlNGPd-8BHUO7h6wZCWzBvYtf5WKregzjcFFLRdJpogaKQlG@[79.218.127.105]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Nnoxl-1jCsBk0; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:02:17 +0100 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o2683xv5042170 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o2683xis042169 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: Z2kHAsZErhEDREvuujMlNGPd-8BHUO7h6wZCWzBvYtf5WKregzjcFFLRdJpogaKQlG X-TOI-MSGID: 782196dd-5540-487d-96d7-ec7f7acc70f5 Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:02:31 -0000 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:49:16AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: [SNAFU] > That's the situation with "Flash". And as I have experienced > it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without "Flash". I may > review my opinion, if given some reason to do so. > > But as it has already been mentioned, that's a very individual > decision, based upon likes and dislikes. Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows free zone at home. It might be a stupid example and not at all the aim of all those noble guys working on FreeBSD but, again, I am very glad they did. It might be a kind of 'Splendid Isolation' refusing things the rest of the world uses and it has its very merits but sometimes it's not bad to be part of the rest of the world. Just my 2 EURct. Sabine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 08:18:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041A6106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD838FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o268HnPY058817; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:17:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:17:48 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20100306065621.D5AC91065704@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100306183731.N17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100306065621.D5AC91065704@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Steele Subject: Re: Calculating kernel/user/idle time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:18:05 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 11, Message: 8 On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:58:20 -0600 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 05), Peter Steele said: > > > What's the proper way to calculate kernel/user/idle time? I know the raw > > values come from sysctl kern.cp_time, but these values need to be > > "massaged" based on the number of CPUs and so on. Can someone explain > > briefly what the algorithm is calculating the final percentages > > representing these times. > > They shouldn't need to be massaged. Just sample the values at two > intervals, and your percentages can be calculated by dividing each delta by > the sum of the deltas (since the sum equals the total CPU usage over the > interval, by definition). If you want to calculate per-cpu usage, use the > kern.cp_times sysctl instead. A bit over a year ago mav@ redesigned powerd's algorithm for measuring 'summary' load for multiple CPUs, as explained with revision 1.21.2.2 at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/powerd/powerd.c which code may prove worthwhile exploring, or stealing. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 08:25:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7E0106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6198FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0744B3CD94; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:25:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o268Pfhs002891; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:25:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:25:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Sabine Baer Message-Id: <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:25:44 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: > Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg > linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw > since I live in a Windows free zone at home. Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT I don't need "Flash". The "need", to illustrate that, is often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people who don't seem to know better. As I said before, most things that "Flash" can do could be achieved with standardized (!) and free means. And often, "Flash" is (ab)used to do idiotic things like simply providing animated buttons. > It might be a stupid example and not at all the aim of all those > noble guys working on FreeBSD but, again, I am very glad they did. I am too, and I'd like to emphasize this. Without the work done to make "Flash" availabe on FreeBSD, I would never know how annoying it can be. If a "web designer" abuses (!) "Flash" to raise a barrier, to make content unavailable, then I am surely not his target audience. That's his decision, and I accept it. (By the way, "barrier-free web" and thinking about how disabled people can participate on informations is something that needs an educated point of view and some intelligence to consider it. Still, there are "web developers" who can't provide this, and so can't their work.) > It might be a kind of 'Splendid Isolation' refusing things the rest of > the world uses and it has its very merits but sometimes it's not bad > to be part of the rest of the world. Erm, I don't consider "rest of the world" to be a reason for my decisions; in fact, they are of technical and usage nature. Just because everyone else jumps out of the window doesn't create a need for me to jump out of the window myself. :-) Honestly: If "Flash" would be something standardized, freely available and acceptably performant, in best case coming integrated with the browser (including an option to switch it off) - just like images are processed by Opera - then I wouldn't do what I do now: I just ignore it. With the upcoming HTML 5 standard, there's even a chance that "Flash" will be ignored by the rest of the world sooner or later. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:01:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127B8106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADA58FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FDB3D179; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:01:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o26917qL003004; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:01:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:01:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk Message-Id: <20100306100107.076b65be.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:01:10 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -0000, "Graham Bentley" wrote: > Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against > such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not > complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer > for us? In fact, if Adobe wishes NOT to provide a "Flash" product for the FreeBSD platform, it absolute is their right to do so. They control the format (that's why I woulnd't call "Flash" a standard, or an open product). On the other hand, Adobe's product is so popular because of its usage. They made successful marketing so that content providers came to the tought: "This is a good product, and I need it.", no matter if this really was the case. Please don't get me wrong: I don't see anything particularly bad in "Flash" itself, it is a quite closed product, as many others. There may even be places where it is useful, but as you will agree, animated buttons to navigate the content within a web page is *not* such place. The right that I admitted Adobe to have - to exclude me from using their techology - continues to the right of the web developer to provide content that is only viewable on an arbitrary subset of existing OS platforms. Let me come back to my stupid "JPG image viewer plugin". Why is "Flash" so complicated? Why does a plugin that does so very little (measured in how it is actually used, as I said, for displaying video or animating buttons) seem to hook into the system and even its kernel so deeply that it's really hard work to make it run on an "unsupported" platform? Imagine that JPG images could only be viewed on x86-64 with 2.5GHz and more. That would be idiotic. And of course, there's always the race after the most recent version of the JPG plugin, because every year there will be a new, incompatible format. But because "Flash" is considered "modern technology", it is heavily employed to create the stuff that is consumed on the Internet most: Games (and the thing with P and three further letters). And within a free and environment such as the Internet, that what is required by the masses will be produced, even if the masses wish to stick with proprietary and dangerous stuff. > This is exactly why Stallman harks on about freedoms etc it almost > feels pathetic; "Please Mr Adobe, we poor FreeBSD users don't have > a flash viewer, please make one for us too" bleat bleat If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason for Adobe to follow a crying "Please!" :-) > The only content I 'miss' is occasional utube vids ; > No probs. Download as .flv and play with mplayer. That's right - and works perfectly. Even for stand-alone "Flash" games, there's the swfplayer program. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:12:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7936A106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D4C8FC17 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o269Caoe095472 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o269Caq1095471; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03059; Sat, 6 Mar 10 01:07:30 PST Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:13:02 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: ptkrisada@gmail.com Message-Id: <4b921c9e.MsIw3gmYzBmYongQ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:12:38 -0000 Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > * Warren Block (wblock@wonkity.com) wrote: > > When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild > > *all* ports. > ... > Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports > relating to their work. > They do not have to rebuild KDE or GNOME, for example. Instructions like "rebuild *all* ports" mean "rebuild *all* ports that you have installed on your system". No one expects you to build every port in the tree, unless your system is pointyhat :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:15:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB4A106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4548FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:15:05 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAFKlkUvUnwYz/2dsb2JhbACcPrUdhHgEi00 Received: from pih-webmail01.servers.plus.net (HELO webmail.plus.net) ([212.159.6.51]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 08:46:15 +0000 Received: from 212.159.115.167 (SquirrelMail authenticated user custompc) by webmail.plus.net with HTTP; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -0000 From: "Graham Bentley" To: "Polytropon" User-Agent: SquirrelMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, admin@cpcnw.co.uk Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: admin@cpcnw.co.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:15:06 -0000 > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -0000, "Graham Bentley" > wrote: >> >> > It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. >> >> I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! > > I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed > a working "Flash" support from my system. I rather like to > see empty "plug-in content" boxes instead of being annoyed by > "Flash" stuff that is mainly used for advertising. > > Have you noticed that "Flash" has taken the place of animated > GIFs, adding sound and providing nothing that couldn't be > done using existing standards? I'm sure you have. > > A growing part of today's "web designers" seem to have > accepted "Flash" as a replacement for valid HTML, and > even for invalid HTML. > > Have you ever heared of a modern web browser that forces > you to install, let's say, a plugin for viewing JPG images, > and this plugin is only available for an arbitrary chosen > subset of operating systems, and loaded with patents and > other cripple-stuff? And it forces you to have an up-to-date > computer, of course, with an expensive OS (free OSes are > out of scope already). And all the clever "web designers" > now replace their working sites with JPG - even the text > is given as a JPG image. And it is assumed that you have > the plugin installed. And of course, there's a new version > of the plugin every year. All this just to view a JPG > image. Could you imagine such a stupid situation? It's > so idiotic, but it's the reality. > > That's the situation with "Flash". And as I have experienced > it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without "Flash". I may > review my opinion, if given some reason to do so. > > But as it has already been mentioned, that's a very individual > decision, based upon likes and dislikes. > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer for us? This is exactly why Stallman harks on about freedoms etc it almost feels pathetic; "Please Mr Adobe, we poor FreeBSD users don't have a flash viewer, please make one for us too" bleat bleat The only content I 'miss' is occasional utube vids ; No probs. Download as .flv and play with mplayer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:16:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30559106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C648FC27 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nnq7O-0007m6-K1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:16:18 -0800 Message-ID: <27802878.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:16:18 -0800 (PST) From: Colin Brace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cb@lim.nl References: <27734134.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: can't bring ath0 up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:16:19 -0000 Leslie Jensen wrote: > > If it's a wireless you need to set wlan0 as described in the handbook. > This is new from version 8. > The handbook hasn't been updated yet, but the man page for ath has all the details: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ath These commands work for me: ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0 wlanmode hostap ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.0.1 mode 11g channel 2 ssid freebsdap ----- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/can%27t-bring-ath0-up-tp27734134p27802878.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:31:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115FF106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EA88FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o269VAke098211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:31:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o269VAmj098210; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03175; Sat, 6 Mar 10 01:20:51 PST Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:26:22 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: plukawski@gmail.com Message-Id: <4b921fbe.rSW1F2xbdHLIg6/X%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:31:11 -0000 Piotr Lukawski wrote: > ... I really cannot understand why nobody can change > just one parameter and put the file in a proper place in > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.0-RELEASE/floppies/ I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped because few current (or even recent) systems have a floppy drive at all, much less a bootable one. I sure hope they don't start applying the same reasoning to drivers for old-ish devices. Some of us do not rush out and acquire the latest/greatest whiz-giz every few months just because it's available. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:36:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9714106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341528FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o269a7V5024718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:36:07 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:36:07 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20100305185135.DD214106576C@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306172517.Q17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20100306172517.Q17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:36:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2010 06:33:53, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 > On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets > > > blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a > > > conference once. > > > > Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... > > I understand why IPv6 would confuse them, but don't follow why higher > numbered MXs would be more attractive to them in the first place? > > Are they assuming a 'secondary' MX will be more likely to accept spam? Yes. Generally a high-numbered MX is more trusted than the run-of- the-mill internet by the actual mail server (lowest numbered MX)[*], so forwarding between MXes tends to bypass chunks of anti-spam protection. The high-numbered MX itself is usually a pretty low importance system at a location remote from all the rest of the mail servers, so it tends to have less effective anti-spam protection. Thus spammers ignore the normal MX priority rules and just attempt to inject spam through the highest numbered MX, because it is more likely to get through. On the whole, I don't see the value in having a high-numbered MX to dumbly accept, queue and forward messages like this. It doesn't really add any resilience: the SMTP protocol is intrinsically all about store and forward, and if a message cannot be delivered immediately, the sending side will keep it in a queue for up to 5 days anyhow. Low priority MXes make some sense for load shedding, but realistically as part of a cluster of servers at one site. If you want resilience against network outages, then you're going to have to provide a resilient solution for /reading/ the e-mails too, and that's a whole different ball game. Cheers, Matthew [*] Even if the low-priority MXes are treated as untrusted, you've still got the whole backscatter problem to consider. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuSIgcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxQEQCffVtAHVHs5u58+Sz0SIZlDM0Q 0pYAoJD8d6Tyd6xypSbx0Z/3qmScmbeR =VCWG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 09:54:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CE6106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AED48FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o269scaN024967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:54:38 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4B92265E.5030109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:54:38 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4b921fbe.rSW1F2xbdHLIg6/X%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4b921fbe.rSW1F2xbdHLIg6/X%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org, plukawski@gmail.com Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:54:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2010 09:26:22, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped > because few current (or even recent) systems have a floppy drive at > all, much less a bootable one. Yeah, but the floppy disk drive was already obsolete 10 years ago. It's just taken this long for it to fall down dead. Good riddance to it. Why would anyone want an unreliable, slow and tiny capacity device when you can get GiB capacity USB sticks everywhere nowadays? Not providing floppy disk installation images doesn't imply dropping kernel support for floppy drives. My ancient system has a floppy, and if I blew the dust out of it and could find some media it should work just fine with FreeBSD 8.0. In fact, if you need to support older equipment, free OSes like FreeBSD are really your only choice. Drivers for old devices tend to stick around in the source tree for much longer than in any commercial offering. They might suffer from bit-rot due to lack of developer access to samples of kit, but if you really need something like that fixed you probably could get patches. In fact, I think the primary reason for dropping old device drivers is usually because they don't receive any attention during the occasional code refactoring that occurs: no one complains, and the device sits around unusable or needing special backwards compatibility shims for a while, then gets quietly deleted. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuSJl4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSWACfSkJ6k09ig0sR5lctO7tooF1k NnUAnRrWUeDMssvWDx7rvzMgPWb3fHSw =3zRd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 10:54:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677DD106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025368FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3032761bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:54:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.33.131 with SMTP id h3mr1468154bkd.53.1267872853536; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:54:13 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100305175311.7ebacf30@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> <20100305175311.7ebacf30@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:54:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:54:21 -0000 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jerry wrote: > Adobe, a commercial entity, obviously feels that the cost of > supporting the FreeBSD community is not a financially prudent business > venture. Well, that's their decision, of course. However, Linux and FreeBSD aren't so far apart either, at least on the API level. After all, they ARE more or less POSIX systems. It shouldn't be too hard for Adobe to tweak their Linux or Solaris Flash port so that it compiles cleanly on FreeBSD too. How complicated could that be? We're adapting software in /usr/ports all the time, and that's no black magic either. IIRC, there was a thread a while ago about what Adobe expects of FreeBSD so that they can port their Flash player -- or was that NVIDIA? I don't remember exactly what they needed though... Maybe something about memory mapping? Hmmm... > In the finally analysis, it is their product to do with as > they see fit, unless the socialist EC starts to stick their fascist > nose into someone else's business. Adobe never stated that they would > support FreeBSD; at least as far as I can tell. That would sort of > eliminate any pseudo "Breach of Contract" accusation against them. If they provided an obscure product, or a product for which alternatives existed, EC wouldn't care. But with near-monopoly of an increasingly ubiquitous format comes great responsibility. In the eyes of the EC, a company shouldn't be allowed to abuse their monopolistic power to lock out competitors. IMHO, they are quite right on this point, though you are free to disagree. ;-) > -- > Jerry > gesbbb@yahoo.com -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:07:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1897110656C0 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66E08FC23 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3037729bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:07:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.26 with SMTP id 26mr1500772bkx.123.1267873645775; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:07:25 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:07:29 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >> since I live in a Windows free zone at home. > > Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT > I don't need "Flash". That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason or another. However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What downloader do you use for these? And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. > The "need", to illustrate that, is > often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people > who don't seem to know better. As I said before, most things > that "Flash" can do could be achieved with standardized (!) > and free means. And often, "Flash" is (ab)used to do idiotic > things like simply providing animated buttons. I've talked with the IT department of a company recently who had to switch from perfectly usable barrier-less HTML to Flash. Actually, the IT guys didn't want to, but their management was adamant. The main reason wasn't buttons or little animations, but something much more mundane: the graphics design company they hired to create their new corporate identity insisted that the only way to get a 100% pixel-precise layout was with Flash... and management fell for it. Basically, they wanted to duplicate their glossy brochures 1:1, and didn't care about reduced usability and accessibility. Incredibly silly move, but their company, their decision. > With the upcoming HTML 5 standard, there's even a chance that > "Flash" will be ignored by the rest of the world sooner > or later. HTML 5 isn't the problem, that will be easy to implement. It's about picking the right video codec. There's no high quality codec available that is both ubiquitous in hardware, and unencumbered by patents. > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:15:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C3106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E836B8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3040675bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:15:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.131.207 with SMTP id y15mr1508830bks.69.1267874137150; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:15:37 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100306100107.076b65be.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306100107.076b65be.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:15:37 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:15:41 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince > them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating > systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason > for Adobe to follow a crying "Please!" :-) There is only one way to convince them: through legislation! You may live in a world of bliss where you can access your online bank via standardized HTML, where you can fill in your IRS (or equivalent) forms, various applications etc. without Flash, but many parts of the world are a lot more dependent on Flash. Of course, one can always send complaints to those banks and public services who use Flash-only interfaces, but those complaints usually get ignored and thrown in the grey dumpster. If you try to escalate your complaint, the letter goes from the grey into the red dumpster, but you're still effectively locked out. That's the problem with near-monopolies of proprietary formats: sometimes you can't escape them and have to resort to tricks (like emulations etc...) to make them work. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:19:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C30B1065754 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E688FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0586B1E41A; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:19:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o26BJ8vV003500; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:19:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:19:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20100306121908.b3695def.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:19:12 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local > .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason > or another. A very useful feature, especially for offline operations. > However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What > downloader do you use for these? None, because I don't know / "need" other sites that steal my time by providing useless videos. :-) > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. That's what "make update" is used for. :-) > I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. This may happen in the future. YT is one of the main promoters for "Flash" as a means to provide video contents. > I've talked with the IT department of a company recently who > had to switch from perfectly usable barrier-less HTML to Flash. The IT department? Shouldn't this be the responsibility of the department providing the content to be published on the web? > Actually, the IT guys didn't want to, but their management was > adamant. Oh yeah, management. Market share. All new. Revolutionary. Leverage. I could go on for hours. :-) > The main reason wasn't buttons or little animations, > but something much more mundane: the graphics design > company they hired to create their new corporate identity > insisted that the only way to get a 100% pixel-precise layout > was with Flash... and management fell for it. If I hear "pixel precise"... Why don't they provide the content COMPLETELY as PNG images without compression? That would be really 1:1. > Basically, they > wanted to duplicate their glossy brochures 1:1, and didn't care > about reduced usability and accessibility. In this case, my opinion would be: If they don't care, than I don't care supporting them by investing attention on them. They don't deserve it. > Incredibly silly move, > but their company, their decision. Their right. If they want to lose customers (idea: the more people you exclude from the content, the more potential customers you lose). But I agree: Absolutely idiotic. Let's see how much fun they will have when Adobe changes something in their "Flash" format - then everything needs to be re-done. :-) > HTML 5 isn't the problem, that will be easy to implement. It's about > picking the right video codec. There's no high quality codec available > that is both ubiquitous in hardware, and unencumbered by patents. That's true. I didn't want to hide that. A free, open and standardized video codec, capable of carrying video and audio information and providing streaming the content, while being compatible with HTML, and being able to be used in every country, would be a good solution. It HAS to be supported out of the box, at least in terms of web browsers (like the "thing" inside the browser that displays JPG images, to follow my example). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:25:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119C11065688 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plukawski@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C781A8FC3A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so3425078fxm.3 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:24:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rkKyjU1cThVt4RKdWIbYEDOArEVoZPu4MDxONU6HzZ0=; b=M2g0cDku2UHRpHCfrqeHJOvEjaNnhCn7SACxMoPnKedUtiq7mCTKs4YUmMkmZVg6IS peT0mmf6qQdwvUZYw2dY+9UJZ7zx2+xSVKQvz4LcmBeoBqmKMeQ439/BeEFBcuRdOL1m 9KW+79/aZ8aWB0eDPFqS02lMOqTAmtat+FSAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=fcvu85My4eQdF0ZCyBg/cP975w3TSYANHrQDcjQjS/XRw6wD+Fvx6vJTXsm2oeIjRr lyBgtPlz5J9SYTmKwuBicU/5GBEJLyp6zT38ud7U60Wa/yVBD7H3HN5jJbmqZdtBtg+P bKGNIRRotZcFfRbbGMKJ/s+3OYXjscZaZ3kL8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.151.1 with SMTP id p1mr158433hbb.186.1267874670310; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:24:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B92265E.5030109@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4b921fbe.rSW1F2xbdHLIg6/X%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4B92265E.5030109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:24:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: Piotr Lukawski To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: andyjhiscock@yahoo.com, herbert langhans , questions@freebsd.org, perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: plukawski@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:25:33 -0000 In many situations, especially for and old or non standard equipment floppies are the best or even the only solution. Actually if I haven't found the solution to use floppy to install FreeBSD, I would be forced to use another system eg. OpenBSD instead, even if I prefer FreeBSD. The decision to make floppies obsolete is very bad, because it is still needed by many people. On 6 March 2010 10:54, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/03/2010 09:26:22, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > I seem to remember something about the floppy images being dropped > > because few current (or even recent) systems have a floppy drive at > > all, much less a bootable one. > > Yeah, but the floppy disk drive was already obsolete 10 years ago. It's > just taken this long for it to fall down dead. Good riddance to it. > Why would anyone want an unreliable, slow and tiny capacity device when > you can get GiB capacity USB sticks everywhere nowadays? > > Not providing floppy disk installation images doesn't imply dropping > kernel support for floppy drives. My ancient system has a floppy, and > if I blew the dust out of it and could find some media it should work > just fine with FreeBSD 8.0. > > In fact, if you need to support older equipment, free OSes like FreeBSD > are really your only choice. Drivers for old devices tend to stick > around in the source tree for much longer than in any commercial > offering. They might suffer from bit-rot due to lack of developer > access to samples of kit, but if you really need something like that > fixed you probably could get patches. In fact, I think the primary > reason for dropping old device drivers is usually because they don't > receive any attention during the occasional code refactoring that > occurs: no one complains, and the device sits around unusable or needing > special backwards compatibility shims for a while, then gets quietly > deleted. > > > > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuSJl4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSWACfSkJ6k09ig0sR5lctO7tooF1k > NnUAnRrWUeDMssvWDx7rvzMgPWb3fHSw > =3zRd > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:29:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE16106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745B28FE34 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624831E4C0; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:28:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o26BS1SC003531; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:28:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:28:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20100306122800.c79d6088.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306100107.076b65be.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:29:28 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:15:37 +0100, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince > > them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating > > systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason > > for Adobe to follow a crying "Please!" :-) > > There is only one way to convince them: through legislation! Legislation won't influence economy - it's the other way round. Sadly. On a free market, the masses dictate what will happen. And if the masses don't WANT to be free, their freedom will be taken off them. Freedom of choice? No, you better go with what we provide you, because that's the best for you. And now shut up and buy our crap! :-) > You may live in a world of bliss where you can access your online > bank via standardized HTML, where you can fill in your IRS (or > equivalent) forms, various applications etc. without Flash, but > many parts of the world are a lot more dependent on Flash. In the context you've mentioned, I would have thought of Java in the first place, not "Flash". And I know that there are whole "branches of economy" that are trapped in the "Flash" problem - once you're in, you're convinced that you can't get out. (There are other problems like this.) As a pure private person, I can be lucky not to depend on "Flash", and not have to be told that I'm using the "wrong" operating system. I know that not everyone is that lucky. > Of course, one can always send complaints to those banks and > public services who use Flash-only interfaces, but those complaints > usually get ignored and thrown in the grey dumpster. If you try to > escalate your complaint, the letter goes from the grey into the red > dumpster, but you're still effectively locked out. Yes. > That's the problem with near-monopolies of proprietary formats: > sometimes you can't escape them and have to resort to tricks > (like emulations etc...) to make them work. I agree, but I'd like to emphasize that those "tricks" are always a good chance for migration, such as I have predicted, seen, experienced and done it with OpenOffice. The growing interest in heterogenous IT environments where interoperability is important will help to make the "decision carriers" aware of how to decide: Go with open standards and continue work, or stick with proprietary and closed products and have a surprise from time to time (such as "We can't open our documents anymore!" or "This has to be rewritten!") If you work with standards, then interoperability, compatibility and transition is no big deal. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 12:41:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D643106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3028FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A184210E77C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:43:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K3b5U6yNKWf7 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:43:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BCA10E50A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:43:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B924D71.6080101@eskk.nu> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:41:21 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100302 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pinnacle nanostick 73e on FreeBSD, possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:41:28 -0000 I'm curious if it's possible to get a pinnacle nanostick 73e to work with Freebsd. When inserted /var/log/messages repports the following root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x2304 product 0x0237 bus uhub7 kernel: ugen7.2: at usbus7 /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 11:46:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17F9106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEA68FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-7-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.7.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971D1E366; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:46:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o26BkufR003583; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:46:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:46:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: plukawski@gmail.com Message-Id: <20100306124656.b418d037.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4b921fbe.rSW1F2xbdHLIg6/X%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4B92265E.5030109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:45:13 +0000 Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, questions@freebsd.org, herbert langhans , andyjhiscock@yahoo.com, Piotr Lukawski Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:47:00 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:24:30 +0100, Piotr Lukawski wrote: > In many situations, especially for and old or non standard equipment > floppies are the best or even the only solution. > [...] > The decision to make floppies obsolete is very bad, because it is still > needed by many people. Sometimes you simply stick with systems that just work, even if they are 10 years old - and older. So a machine with no USB support can likely exist. It gets even more interesting if you need to read and write floppies to keep computer systems alive for a museum (see 5,25" floppies). Sometimes, a floppy is completely sufficient and easy to use, e. g. when transfering some config files to a system without network and USB; the tar utility can be used to directly operate on floppies, which is very useful, and maybe even faster than using USB (device detection, mounting etc.). So when booting via CD, USB or network isn't possible, what are the options? Okay, with FreeBSD, you can extract the hard disk, place it into a different computer and then install the OS there; retransfer the hard disk to the original computer and everything should work from now on. (Special hardware may require additional configuration, but the base system doesn't care on what kind of hardware it is running, basically.) The reason to still use such old systems can be very different, for example "just works" is one of the main reasons. Others may include accurate and reliable working, or less power consumption. (One thing that I could observe over the years: The older hardware is, the longer it works - mostly.) Another reason could be the idea of resisting to buy something new that does the same as the old stuff, an action that costs money and creates electronic waste. I still have such a system which I keep for nostalgia mostly: It introduced me to FreeBSD: A 150MHz P1 with 128 MB SDR-SDRAM, SCSI CD (which I can't boot from), no USB, but Ethernet (which I also can't boot from), and it's in a perfect condition, still usable as a workstation. It does nearly everything my current workstation (P4, 2GHz) can do, and some of the things even faster. I'm sure most of you can't even imagine that. :-) FreeBSD has always impressed me by providing working (!) drivers for older stuff that still works, e. g. SCSI PCI cards, SCSI scanners and PD drives. Most hardware works out of the box, and for very special cases, there are modules or kernel options. And why use FreeBSD? Because it runs faster on the same hardware with every new release. That's something other operating systems can't do. Settings where you update your software, then need to update your hardware, and then still don't feel that anything is faster at all, are known. If floppy images aren't included on the install CD / DVD or via FTP, then at least there should be a simple means to generate them, e. g. "make floppies". I wouldn't like to see floppies disappear for, let's say, the next 10 years, as much as I dislike floppy media per se. By the way, their form factor is superior to CDs and DVDs in every concern! Give the world a rewritable optical media the size of a Minidisc and the world is yours. I don't like the idea that I need a drive with the size of a full-featured computer to use media that dissolves chemically and gets unreadable if touched with the finger on the wrong side. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 12:49:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A138106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@pollux.local.net) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD308FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465F54C80AD for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:49:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from pollux.local.net (che78-3-82-246-30-233.fbx.proxad.net [82.246.30.233]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FB44C80EB for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:49:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by pollux.local.net (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 343DD1CDB7; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:49:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:49:41 +0100 From: Harald Weis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100306124941.GA2968@pollux.local.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:49:49 -0000 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. > Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). > All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. > For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. > > Now I want to use only FBSD for web browsing and don't want to use Windows. > I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. > Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 > while remaining KDE unchanged. > I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. > > The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed. I don't know whether someone has said it already. Whenever you have a problem look first in the Handbook to see whether the issue is addressed there. Concerning the flash viewer: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html Harald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 13:02:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80264106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526428FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o26D2KBN003070 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:02:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201003061302.o26D2KBN003070@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3068.1267880540.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:02:20 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Booting MFS from Secondary Partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:02:43 -0000 Fbsd1 writes: > just dd the image to what ever drive you want That is the goal. The challenge is to launch a script that detects when the boot device has been unmounted as dd will not work on an active file system. Memory disk images apparently survive until reboot so there is a possibility that one can get in the write between the umount of everything and complete shutdown. I am truly impressed with how robust FreeBSD is as it probably should be very hard to log in to a working system and remotely rebuild it. I did read one of many introductory articles about mfsbsd that tells you to just use scp to get the image over to the target system and then, as root, use dd to apply it to the boot device. That is not possible unless one first boots from some other medium. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 13:20:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37253106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15998FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so150923iwn.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:19:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tPYadulWq4/K1jGvVqz1LF0d39323O8Zvh5Q6zQ59nI=; b=Vd/nVkRDgCKEPiHUspIMdEk8JandLkRurm2W5ldWi95PJfitdz6XDKqzxA0070CFiJ Fic2xr6/KcERhiVXvItyxexpPAIdSMAYxMvR1jAzHUyduc+4UNcZGYyhHN91uXzTQYRM v0ewStiJBz5t5es6d2o0XZoR9L56s237FuyME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GnLmpKuOEUJZNpkw231+m6BRVFltKa6fmEzzQMi75kUzn7WizOZw7GsPS2Q2QoCQhc 4GqHz6bSLvENDO8Lik+ox09J+x9clxQBUT/7r0KROSTnfUQCX8d+1HM8NX7V+oQren9d pmEjRE38mzkYE0VWcX5dvvNTaEk4QJ7EDMP2k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.133 with SMTP id cg5mr854676ibb.12.1267881591142; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:19:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> References: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> From: Ross Cameron Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:19:31 +0200 Message-ID: <35f70db11003060519oed5de2dt9510ff70cb3526ca@mail.gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:20:01 -0000 What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. The revision 3 and above system boards can run 64bit OS's. Also if you're CPU is one of the following a a BIOS upgrade/setting may enable the full set of processor features : SL9K4 2.33 GHz T2700 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9JN 2.16 GHz T2600 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCPGA N/A SL8VS 2.16 GHz T2600 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9K3 2.16 GHz T2600 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9EH 2 GHz T2500 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCPGA N/A SL8VP 2 GHz T2500 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCPGA N/A SL9K2 2 GHz T2500 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9JU 1.83 GHz L2500 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL8VU 1.83 GHz T2400 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9JZ 1.83 GHz T2400 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9JM 1.83 GHz T2400 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCPGA N/A SL8VW 1.66 GHz L2400 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL8VV 1.66 GHz T2300 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9JT 1.66 GHz L2400 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL9JL 1.66 GHz T2300 2 667 MHz 65 nm D0 2 MB Micro-FCPGA N/A SL9JS 1.50 GHz L2300 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL8VX 1.50 GHz L2300 2 667 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL99V 1.20 GHz U2500 2 533 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A SL99W 1.06 GHz U2400 2 533 MHz 65 nm C0 2 MB Micro-FCBGA N/A On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > The amd64 arch installer for 8.0-RELEASE fails to start on a ThinkPad T60 > with an Intel Centrino Core Duo. =C2=A0What am I doing wrong? > > error message: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0CPU doesn't support long mode > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > --=20 "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 13:48:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CE4106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB618FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 08:48:13 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LLR12340; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 08:48:12 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19346.23836.386450.914128@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:48:12 -0500 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100306073847.54a0daef.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305002520.c06d7d20.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B9048F9.1060907@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100305144625.GA43010@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4B91F1F0.5020605@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100306073847.54a0daef.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Programmer In Training Subject: Re: xorg, xdm, desktop env X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:48:14 -0000 Polytropon writes: > A small addition: In order to be able to use X with an > initialisation file even when not using XDM (i. e. starting X by > "startx") AND not having to maintain two startup files (.xsession > and .xinitrc) AND furthermore incorporating shell settings for > the shell of choice (default: the C shell), you can use this > approach: Perhaps since I don't run xdm from ttys (having been bit by that in the past), I have for years simply linked one to the other. Works fine, and saves having to remember to update one when the other changes. There are no negatives I know about. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 13:48:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE854106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com (asmtpout019.mac.com [17.148.16.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2F48FC1B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:48:39 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [192.168.1.8] (pool-96-224-35-192.nycmny.east.verizon.net [96.224.35.192]) by asmtp019.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYV00CQU50TSL10@asmtp019.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:48:39 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003060091 Message-id: <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Pongthep Kulkrisada In-reply-to: <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:48:29 -0500 References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:48:40 -0000 On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: > * Warren Block (wblock@wonkity.com) wrote: >> When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* >> ports. > > Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. > > All operating systems can always distinguish the system and packages. > For instance, gcc is tightly coupled with the system, it will be > upgraded automatically while upgrading the system. > Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports relating > to their work. > They do not have to rebuild KDE or GNOME, for example. > > I myself, after upgrading the system, I always rebuild MOST of > textual ports like > vim, fetchmail, apache, etc and all ports required by them. > For GUI application, I keep updating ONLY web browser because the > old version is usually prone to vulnerability issues. > > If it is not enough, please tell me. :-) Yes, it's not enough. When you upgrade the base OS to a new major version (ie, going from 7.x to 8.x), the system libraries get bumped to a new version, but any libraries coming from ports are still linked against the older version of the frameworks. If you don't touch anything, backwards compatibility for 7.x will continue to work fine, but as soon as you start installing something new or upgrade any port, you run into the situation where executables are linked against two different versions of libc.so (etc) and they break. For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major version, then you must rebuild all installed ports. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 13:54:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7A2106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C104F8FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 08:54:21 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id QOC65588; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 08:54:21 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19346.24204.552970.525781@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:54:20 -0500 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100306121908.b3695def.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306121908.b3695def.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: "C. P. Ghost" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:54:23 -0000 Polytropon writes: > > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > > YT changes its embedding. > > That's what "make update" is used for. :-) More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if they're different) fixing things promptly after a change, My experience has been 2-3 days. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Liveleads Email Support List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:56:59 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 13:57:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F7C106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout017.mac.com (asmtpout017.mac.com [17.148.16.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58968FC20 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:57:40 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [192.168.1.8] (pool-96-224-35-192.nycmny.east.verizon.net [96.224.35.192]) by asmtp017.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYV00EIJ5F4RL00@asmtp017.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:57:13 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003060095 Message-id: <12D27C0C-70FE-4640-9B2A-4EA98CC72859@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Pongthep Kulkrisada In-reply-to: <20100306065736.GA2237@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:57:03 -0500 References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100305171233.GB1500@gmail.com> <20100306065736.GA2237@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd Mailing Subject: -STABLE vs security branches, was: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:57:41 -0000 On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: >> So your system is approx. 4 months old, despite you cvsup-ping? > > I don't know what do you mean. > Normally, FBSD issues new STABLE RELEASE once a year (approx). > Whenever new release or new branch is available, > I shall do either wget iso images, or cvsup/csup and buildworld. > The time between RELEASEs, there are patches. > But FBSD teams stated that those patches are not well tested > comparing to RELEASE. > So I do not update the system until new STABLE RELEASE is available > again. Things going into -CURRENT may not be "well tested", but anything being merged back to -STABLE ought to be. Humans make mistakes, but I can't recall more than two or maybe three significant issues over a decade tracking -STABLE, and these were fixed in a matter of hours. If you do care about this level of precision, you should be building to a test platform and then running sanity checks for whatever your machines do before upgrading production boxes, anyway. Beyond that, however, you ought to consider tracking the security branch, ie, RELENG_8_0, rather than 8-STABLE aka RELENG_8, as the former does include recommended changes like security bugfixes, but avoids merging in anything which has not been "well tested". Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 14:01:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3DB1065673 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98858FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 09:01:32 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LLR13327; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2010 09:01:32 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19346.24635.655335.807552@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:01:31 -0500 To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> References: <20100305051415.GA1847@gmail.com> <20100305065837.660d3ebd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100305110049.GA10715@gmail.com> <20100305161210.GA46349@gmail.com> <20100306043513.GA1612@gmail.com> <03A86093-6B0C-429C-86CE-F73C0DEEC347@mac.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Pongthep Kulkrisada , freebsd Mailing Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:01:34 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major > version, then you must rebuild all installed ports. And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with. :-) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 14:18:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7371106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712F18FC24 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3110589bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:18:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.76 with SMTP id k12mr1746556bkd.61.1267885125855; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:18:45 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <19346.24204.552970.525781@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306121908.b3695def.freebsd@edvax.de> <19346.24204.552970.525781@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:18:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:18:54 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Robert Huff wrote: >> =A0> And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime >> =A0> YT changes its embedding. >> >> =A0That's what "make update" is used for. :-) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, i= f > they're different) fixing things promptly after a change, =A0My > experience has been 2-3 days. Which is pretty good... esp. considering that some ports take months or more to get updated, esp. when security concerns pop up (*cough* java/jdk16 *cough*) ;-) But the point is, that even the author is no magician: should YT decide to switch to a completely different scheme, reverse- engineering that could prove very hard and up to impossible. We're lucky to have youtube-dl, and I hope author and maintainer will keep updating it as often as possible, as they do now. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Robert Huf= f -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 14:19:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8C01065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528A68FC32 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:19:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [192.168.1.8] (pool-96-224-35-192.nycmny.east.verizon.net [96.224.35.192]) by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYV00KPH6GDR340@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:19:35 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003060100 Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Matthew Seaman In-reply-to: <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:19:25 -0500 References: <20100305185135.DD214106576C@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306172517.Q17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: "Randal L. Schwartz" , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:19:36 -0000 On Mar 6, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most >>> spambots... >> >> I understand why IPv6 would confuse them, but don't follow why higher >> numbered MXs would be more attractive to them in the first place? >> >> Are they assuming a 'secondary' MX will be more likely to accept >> spam? > > Yes. Generally a high-numbered MX is more trusted than the run-of- > the-mill internet by the actual mail server (lowest numbered MX)[*], > so > forwarding between MXes tends to bypass chunks of anti-spam > protection. The high-numbered MX itself is usually a pretty low > importance system at a location remote from all the rest of the mail > servers, so it tends to have less effective anti-spam protection. > Thus > spammers ignore the normal MX priority rules and just attempt to > inject > spam through the highest numbered MX, because it is more likely to get > through. While this is undoubtedly true in some cases, you're offering too much credit to the spammers for other cases. :-) There are spambots which simply scan through IPv4 address space trying to talk to port 25, and they attempt to deliver the same spam (or some template put through an obfuscator which adds random text) to a list of usernames, regardless of MX records. Some try to deliver to unqualified addresses (ie, rcpt to: ); others do a reverse lookup of each address and append the domain name to the addresses. It's pretty easy to notice this when you've got a bunch of IPs setup on different domains. Anyway, for personal domains, you can setup teergrubes on both high and low numbered MX records, which delay but never accept mail, and have your real mailserver in the middle. Unfortunately, there are so many broken SMTP servers out there, which don't retry delivery to all MX hosts, that a fair amount of "legitimate" email will be lost-- you can't realistically do this for normal users. > On the whole, I don't see the value in having a high-numbered MX to > dumbly accept, queue and forward messages like this. It doesn't really > add any resilience: the SMTP protocol is intrinsically all about store > and forward, and if a message cannot be delivered immediately, the > sending side will keep it in a queue for up to 5 days anyhow. The two main uses are: 1) If your primary MX is where delivery happens, and it goes down or is otherwise unavailable for a while, you can do an ETRN against the secondary(-ies) and get all of the queued mail relatively immediately once you fix the issue. If you have drastic problems (ie, a box goes down permanently and you can't get a replacement up in less than a week due to shipping time), you can even have your secondary queue email for longer than the default 5 days if that becomes necessary. 2) Domains without permanent network connectivity: http://www.postfix.org/ETRN_README.html Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 14:30:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B42106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C76A8FC08 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o26EUi9x075984; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 01:30:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 01:30:44 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20100306224413.L17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100305185135.DD214106576C@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306172517.Q17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Randal L. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:47 -0000 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 06/03/2010 06:33:53, Ian Smith wrote: > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 300, Issue 10, Message: 6 > > On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:07:29 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 05/03/2010 15:51:52, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > The spamtrap is a shiny object for spam, and anything that goes there gets > > > > blocked for an hour from hitting the low port. I presented this at a > > > > conference once. > > > > > > Having an IPv6-only high-mx seems to terminally confuse most spambots... > > > > I understand why IPv6 would confuse them, but don't follow why higher > > numbered MXs would be more attractive to them in the first place? > > > > Are they assuming a 'secondary' MX will be more likely to accept spam? > > Yes. Generally a high-numbered MX is more trusted than the run-of- > the-mill internet by the actual mail server (lowest numbered MX)[*], so > forwarding between MXes tends to bypass chunks of anti-spam > protection. The high-numbered MX itself is usually a pretty low > importance system at a location remote from all the rest of the mail > servers, so it tends to have less effective anti-spam protection. Thus > spammers ignore the normal MX priority rules and just attempt to inject > spam through the highest numbered MX, because it is more likely to get > through. Makes sense. Since I wrote that, some repressed memories surfaced .. > On the whole, I don't see the value in having a high-numbered MX to > dumbly accept, queue and forward messages like this. It doesn't really > add any resilience: the SMTP protocol is intrinsically all about store > and forward, and if a message cannot be delivered immediately, the > sending side will keep it in a queue for up to 5 days anyhow. Low > priority MXes make some sense for load shedding, but realistically as > part of a cluster of servers at one site. If you want resilience > against network outages, then you're going to have to provide a > resilient solution for /reading/ the e-mails too, and that's a whole > different ball game. Indeed. About 10 years ago when we ran a few domains on a 56k modem link with a secondary MX on $bigisp, woke up one day to find we were being DoS'd by some 90,000 big email from some marketing outfit via the unfiltered secondary MX. Had to cancel that on the spot to chuck them away or spend days doing nothing else; haven't bothered using one since. > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] Even if the low-priority MXes are treated as untrusted, you've still > got the whole backscatter problem to consider. Yea; another nightmare system 'inherited' had a qmail frontend accepting everything thrown at it, even for invalid usernames, passing it to a backend system to sort and sift through it and yes, generate something like 95% backscatter, mostly bound for nowhere. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot .. still getting resultant tryhard attempts 18 months after getting sendmail going - spambots have long memories! Thanks for the clear explanation, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 14:55:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E32106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A548FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3125502bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:55:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=INK9po7b0L3TbS0TFITw270BiKxO+SQGHrNpXQELgAk=; b=vkB7DNFoi3juQdJpCfxzuqCMtrjr+L/O/4u+jdsOYe04tULn6OpBAwxf5x4y3Yg8D+ PYAzRyuvk1YB2CLAwT6ifa74Gx9ru4H3crq3G0jInU+8v+rOgSlBFUzWUm+OURoMTcLX eGPJ6pPTMy9rU8q/Io+Zw/S7P9pFcVXq7KGLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:cc :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=NGFxqIHKRiBipPVU9f0OGKSoQswVRwUcJRyIuxaB8X3SXvJOAtsCeBx1NwEOVrvfTD m9JQyeXurEpcb7yOdI+mf9E5zxbznXggaoJuaitdcQptqnN+xnM22y9HfP1MTtN+6xgG Jj5iMCm3qbNwhhrHISLj2OnF8RbhpnuFhrCc4= Received: by 10.204.145.23 with SMTP id b23mr1802789bkv.17.1267887303486; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from komp.skl (xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl [84.40.169.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm200834bwz.3.2010.03.06.06.55.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:55:02 -0800 (PST) From: Zbigniew Komarnicki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:54:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <201003051402.02343.cblasius@gmail.com> <4B912793.6020908@janh.de> <20100305160955.GG40573@gahrfit.gahr.ch> In-Reply-To: <20100305160955.GG40573@gahrfit.gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201003061554.59452.cblasius@gmail.com> Cc: Jan Henrik Sylvester , gahr@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install octave X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:55:13 -0000 On Friday 05 of March 2010 17:09:56 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 2010-Mar-05, 16:47, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote: > > There has been one more commit on that port: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-toolkits/fltk/files/patch > >-src_filename_list.cxx.diff?r1=1.4;r2=1.5;f=h > > > > That one looks suspicious because (__FreeBSD_version >= 730000) make the > > clauses before obsolete. > > > > Before that commit, the condition was true for 8-STABLE and 9-CURRENT, > > but not for 8.0-RELEASE or 7-ANYTHING. The commit was supposed to fix > > 7.3-RELEASE (and probably 7-STABLE) but changed the behavior for > > 8.0-RELEASE, too, which probably has not been intended. > > Good catch! Fixed, thanks! Thank you all. Now is OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 15:54:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408DA1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39708FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so2525489gwa.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:54:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nqlVhKti21HM+ivZOONRNva4Ank8rIPmp4Xq5ioUVqE=; b=fo51Vfykss8I5AsDaKM6je8Jp7i/QmqsN+KYk9WniObDrM+NA0ixj4rQZFYL14PnCV qfl9qU6fRNCVBZWGZDVnP/RXXXXeJXpgt5ftKj42BM0MJx4dRzVJAgAVOfIIcGaeyTq6 J2AZWZUrMMZ43NcSbus2rmO3q3ZTpiRsO3eqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=d3XLfXNaN/6cPfrF9hy012j5mGMVSFhFdooqAgWDWKS/n3vllp3uG5zyQbPFdC2C6t 1QQCvhhVPiX1oe0z89rcsNrlu1kBkkN/8lZ5WMnkeEciiTWWw8k2DCTDW3E0gNmr18GH zy6N7G2Us5imiiWYAmDVMpwTECyXey1CuImTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.131.8 with SMTP id e8mr2279604ybd.270.1267890870100; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:54:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:54:30 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:54:36 -0000 Hello all, I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed light on this subject? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 16:26:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F238106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from blue.stonehenge.com (blue.stonehenge.com [209.223.236.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5137E8FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blue.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 950F61DE3AF; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:26:27 -0800 (PST) To: Matthew Seaman References: <20100305185135.DD214106576C@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306172517.Q17960@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.2.19; tzolkin = 10 Cauac; haab = 17 Kayab Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:26:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4B922207.3090404@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:36:07 +0000") Message-ID: <86y6i5xvpo.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thousands of ssh probes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:26:58 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> On the whole, I don't see the value in having a high-numbered MX to Matthew> dumbly accept, queue and forward messages like this. High-numbered MX came from a time where an internal machine could only be delivered from outside via an external gateway. If you want to deliver to internal.example.com, you tried its lowest MX first, and failing to connect, you fall back to the next MX, external.example.com. The idea is that external.example.com would then be able to see the next hop, and forward the mail. The modern recommendation is to avoid MX altogether, and rely on split-horizon DNS and SMTP delivery reattempts. But a lot of people are still stuck in the old ways. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 16:42:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE238106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A678E8FC12 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1836 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2010 16:42:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2010 16:42:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=KsAPYpKGug8XQEpQ831cpI3VYZT286V8bXko5ovhZ41Nasp65yjNsxf9IT8vfxqN2gqoHGgel3gOTfUFplkgHkhu+g1KTLguqQxiU7UG0KvuXN7SMJWGC3YuCX1tayWk; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nnx5P-0002O5-L4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:42:44 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:42:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:42:44 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100306164244.GA22556@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> <35f70db11003060519oed5de2dt9510ff70cb3526ca@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <35f70db11003060519oed5de2dt9510ff70cb3526ca@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:42:45 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? > You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on this. That looks like a handy tool. Is there a version that will run on FreeBSD? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkuShgQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWMhQCg0fAsbDEF/n0dRonT6hlA0Sfr v3sAn1JjxvCgCqNP5UDqdhv3oFD6NhYs =OzNz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 16:47:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236A5106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B756D8FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3176328bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:47:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.38.80 with SMTP id a16mr1937707bke.199.1267894055800; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:47:35 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [85.116.204.54] In-Reply-To: <20100306164244.GA22556@guilt.hydra> References: <20100306002804.GA5728@guilt.hydra> <35f70db11003060519oed5de2dt9510ff70cb3526ca@mail.gmail.com> <20100306164244.GA22556@guilt.hydra> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:47:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: amd64 won't install on Core Duo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:47:45 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: >> What system board revision does you're Thinkpad have? >> =A0 =A0 You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to check on th= is. > > That looks like a handy tool. =A0Is there a version that will run on > FreeBSD? Something like sysutils/dmidecode maybe? > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 17:45:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DC0106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from n2a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n2a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB2708FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.166] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp107.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 926942.94068.bm@omp107.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 15121 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1267897474; bh=EiNrXmkgMCeY1M9eWBEOwdecnuuolUCNVinQCA5g03o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Yf3iz20jUk93QfUUHJwdkyM+XAGujy1bkKxShZ9dknVLKlQqHHzFfLGK786b9iDC/Q5cknMTPuEOzNHkpaImSAlkTWwawv9+5CfpsWwX/ucEG2EKy/OzMNnBagCw/CtJUCy0P5QAGJeECjxadMfVymA9HSj5ypo9X+c4H7cKYkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UwciiwrjzB4GAAo5+CrSmJxMT2EDxEEkzTJxAxZ/Es9x/A9GdldAvSG1CXCI5kMAIw26GaOsRFtUwDphR3cr9R1yKmNfpQ1sZMipQP3PEroAEd7vXUJdHONCCBaw3cV3a3krZn/S6GeaFx0VeT8VNCdNT/4uJbBisi+ueGi2diU=; Message-ID: <799211.14657.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4L8GE54VM1k37zhWdujtjdBHGTV5.P0Lwz_GLnutuN85GSymDKRhahI2h7fNJ_keoCJHSkC5tJusrHH.2VVUeZEoPjJ1Nu3yeGGqUWwEYLkeB9eXR3YXumY_8ZA9ooo2aoTAp68I6BEDU5zDVBsvRyPRJKUYpX6yFgN.m9jrvuTB7gj7h8b47MJslqKPY9EJvz9er4aoNhgBJaiAHBWy4tOrdDtOVf2fuuuzVPTxCv8iVCWv6PinbGdTU9BOgHWcsgPbnJU9Q0pRJpYt5GYEZZkKd_aefsaoZOCtPNBLbX3GlNbGqw9bmWFySjU4wQ7T0d1.abXVfhR3wfOUf9Bze5R18_CQJXRRCoA2ur0Nsh4o4u6rpZwes_u3y84k4Vz_tfALAN_dFRSiMf.VBnGk4G8- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:44:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100306120022.DB2A2106568B@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:45:50 -0000 > Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:54:38 +0000 > From: Matthew Seaman > Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy > To: perryh@pluto.rain.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org, > plukawski@gmail.com > Message-ID: <4B92265E.5030109@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 06/03/2010 09:26:22, perryh@pluto.rain.com > wrote: > > I seem to remember something about the floppy images > being dropped > > because few current (or even recent) systems have a > floppy drive at > > all, much less a bootable one. >=20 > Yeah, but the floppy disk drive was already obsolete 10 > years ago.=A0 It's > just taken this long for it to fall down dead.=A0 Good > riddance to it. > Why would anyone want an unreliable, slow and tiny capacity > device when > you can get GiB capacity USB sticks everywhere nowadays? >=20 Correction: Apple stopped selling computers with floppy drives about 10 yea= rs ago. The floppy drive is not obsolete because there is still no viable r= eplacement that has the same (or better) functionality. The problem with USB sticks is that they don't have user-accessible write-p= rotect tabs. If you plug a USB stick into a compromised system, it is "tain= ted." Secure Digital Cards have a write-protect tab, but "Secure" means "secure a= gainst copying" (Copy Protection for Recordable Media), making them inappro= priate for "known good" filesystem images. I have started using CD-ROM booting to install FreeBSD. The problem with CD= -R images is that any "tweaks" to the disk image require burning a new disk= . Regards, James Phillips Recent Slashdot exchange about exactly this issue: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3D1565678&cid=3D31302916 =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AMake your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet= Explorer=AE 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloa= ds.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 18:05:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8281065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73938FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so857343ewy.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:05:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TrIrC8r4bBDqW2kMLjycIHnyBSeSJC4orrAgwe3GnH0=; b=v0MFiMbAkmEboI7Jp3X3ULiEF7DIsVEPujdcOmwJjHhHKJdLMIDJ5MPRWHeDMrYOXi Qk3qm505VKZyPUBf88VfQeYgaL9wasuxgoZBDeUs2N4QSLvVSgSnwznzMJXRHdDtaiIr pKIRvRb5/Brq1ae9klAD/WLIWwQv/zK30S3wQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=A36XuWC74Ndz9gJxx1ry9Qvgc6QJBwT/1sgs9x5xwA9DNtzLiQCib1QJagBpOS+KiT oZOVLPdoPqfY29DLcnGYM8gR+oMUDxqfwH7wDz1FGT9OdzmwMcl4yV7FadQzaF0rf9xw aoXKJDCGTjcSrAcvblCF0lPLIqZS87OzVNxjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.102.75 with SMTP id f11mr1650691ebo.79.1267898735802; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:05:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:05:35 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751003061005u53612bfawf9eb31e45c16bf03@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:05:44 -0000 On 3/6/10, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >>> since I live in a Windows free zone at home. >> >> Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT >> I don't need "Flash". > > That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local > .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason > or another. > > However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What > downloader do you use for these? clive, and it can pass url directly to mplayer, so it works with lynx and elinks too. (vlc and xine should also work ...) clive also allow to pick quality of video. > > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. > >> The "need", to illustrate that, is >> often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people >> who don't seem to know better. As I said before, most things >> that "Flash" can do could be achieved with standardized (!) >> and free means. And often, "Flash" is (ab)used to do idiotic >> things like simply providing animated buttons. > > I've talked with the IT department of a company recently who > had to switch from perfectly usable barrier-less HTML to Flash. > Actually, the IT guys didn't want to, but their management was > adamant. The main reason wasn't buttons or little animations, > but something much more mundane: the graphics design > company they hired to create their new corporate identity > insisted that the only way to get a 100% pixel-precise layout > was with Flash... and management fell for it. Basically, they > wanted to duplicate their glossy brochures 1:1, and didn't care > about reduced usability and accessibility. Incredibly silly move, > but their company, their decision. > >> With the upcoming HTML 5 standard, there's even a chance that >> "Flash" will be ignored by the rest of the world sooner >> or later. > > HTML 5 isn't the problem, that will be easy to implement. It's about > picking the right video codec. There's no high quality codec available > that is both ubiquitous in hardware, and unencumbered by patents. > >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 18:29:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DB31065673 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout022.mac.com (asmtpout022.mac.com [17.148.16.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDD88FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [192.168.1.8] (pool-96-224-35-192.nycmny.east.verizon.net [96.224.35.192]) by asmtp022.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYV00I2MI03EE70@asmtp022.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:29:01 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003060175 Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: James Phillips In-reply-to: <799211.14657.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:28:51 -0500 References: <799211.14657.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:29:01 -0000 On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:44 PM, James Phillips wrote: > Correction: Apple stopped selling computers with floppy drives about > 10 years ago. The floppy drive is not obsolete because there is > still no viable replacement that has the same (or better) > functionality. While I think floppy drives are still useful for BIOS updates and the like, it's not just Apple that isn't selling machines with floppy drives any more. Go to HP or Dell and try to buy a new machine with a floppy drive-- they don't sell them anymore, either... > The problem with USB sticks is that they don't have user-accessible > write-protect tabs. If you plug a USB stick into a compromised > system, it is "tainted." Some USB flash drives have write-protect switches: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141486 Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 18:52:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B612D106566C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4388FC1A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so3635403fxm.3 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:52:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=62NlJ4ML9dloMrr4fe1xlnRCX/57yrg5EARUx4tzL5g=; b=qIasJrCUnPyDQBNJqKqX7fF1yJl+0EMtbwD6XAnr342ocOcsitPm2lXalqH/q2Bz3N kM+582MbtC45Sr2OgeBcojDREiMnEypX9caUhA0f+3nu3+zEbmovPHU6V5RgVbGBdFTV nJ0Kd1iWskfm65MIVBVyenqc1Ow/5HMD+ufTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=K/eISGvcaPVS5gqU6gZAQzLbVa0VQkWE3hbTuvOPMF41ekPoBpBZu2zI0lDA21HpJt 36yPhrlmJrUpYBaX3CV+tMohtwkDlMOwPQ8nKo0oE0VfyYyvRIv2/esqMFyWcMM56pGD YytdlGjE8mQauMTpoxqrEiYx0FT40NLG6gzMc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.211 with SMTP id v19mr198137hbg.26.1267901532640; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:52:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:52:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:52:20 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. Actually this option exists http://www.youtube.com/html5 The problem is Opera and Firefox do not support h.264 decoding but you can use Chromium for that. http://wiki.freebsd.org/Chromium http://code.google.com/p/chromium-freebsd8/ It would be nice if Firefox used the plugin mechanism to do the decoding. With something like ffmpeg there would be no problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 19:52:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36467106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f196.google.com (mail-pz0-f196.google.com [209.85.222.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBD18FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk34 with SMTP id 34so441912pzk.3 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:52:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ji4w+8Z2F3A9VAF4wVSydcA82jNr0j4rRwr1JSD8DVI=; b=L9Qck7V6uizjIeOww8zBhYBVZ5ePpJVYqCOb92aLtp/AzcI71jzPuvWjYuQ4OXaUwY +eT1uYVqcaKpOf7516ZOGL5+VLz9Whsy5+xSWskXEzRj2hHSKJdkCuwJT3ABaO/yL45I a0eXXtUd1c93YHTHaPD1vps1Ct2aLG+Dhh5UA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RT6exAS4Aqwdp+XAHxueiKmHpm2hLzX6C8/VDN/R5soLy7weT20v056/9XJvz5Qief qdD1XbulP8Mt4KRz4WmMqkSjFLjlGmpQyXOrN2BoCIb6CDSLdN4QTvNqfO2UuCipz5G0 cUpht/GU4QnVWQFaF7Ry0rLyR5MM4ts8wAm64= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.6.1 with SMTP id 1mr1870235waf.104.1267905119970; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:51:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> References: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:51:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Jason Garrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:52:09 -0000 On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > Hello all, > > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed that > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was > supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed > light on this subject? What makes you think debugging is still on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 19:59:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F681065676 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6876F8FC16 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so2605333gwa.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:59:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=THu+8Gz9NaWCfXIfA9zOtXLLGUCHIrX0KYrBDsnb7fw=; b=tRrrX2ckep07h4TGAmxNHWXVQPNTL8kw/BFv6HZgYX9fGAF5HJA8/WrdGvj1sfEcPQ zSzBCKpsT53wvGqacd+74VN2k5Yzzcb6iKJ2ozcY0np5orOtER5OAZSl4cbzfqZEpPjK G4c8G0ZoO61xzsanbNiBB1HloN3UM8Oeu7Xjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rnPJX1ETon4lrk5y60CcxRLXXEexXa9XuFDkZJUdnT2jer6RxIgbili8tkICqgvXxT hjl/Xf644L2rZAlMnaXOSFJT/YSGfZev/WOq7x4ZYrg38DSxOiGA3a3twkIYU2UzjcNn fBkyNojAeIPximPrKiUnll3rIrGrxc+dH4k94= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.237.13 with SMTP id k13mr2486548ybh.120.1267905545676; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:59:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:59:05 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003061159i49dbd22cl4ec4856adf2a340f@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:59:11 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: > On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed > that > > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was > > supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed > > light on this subject? > > What makes you think debugging is still on? > >From /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption why are these still in GENERIC after release? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 20:13:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A307B106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4E98FC14 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so3404888pwj.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:12:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YkhnKbeICMWrNiWGTY2ZnJxhQciGQT9ulUMn1SJN0Ug=; b=efYkgk/U+/qLQiRSDTqgFLFtQnUgKe37pGPgotDhATclOBPSMkZ4XWseTQG5XDWjG9 awvA9/GBKBMm7ekZkS0c9Vy4BWcWa7aGUmi3auma2Ex7LwgIC5FEWBvR3ETZDerqUVpw AqJCBzIh9DEiDYYSQRQcu5lgEGAvYyrazgvQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=giLpgZsyQpPOrFSRJQ2Lfy7YRV7XTabwhy/wzoxfm4e99ZktprSJDCY/Pn20Gs1QKo LKWBggvwS3ESGkc+7204tzemiMBWENdL1xxt5Y+upzxVgkzLetqiUhatKq0Ss6SqxUTN jFGqW3W2lkMgvnbuaR9NFh4x3HyaOyKoOYPPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.237.24 with SMTP id k24mr1898990wah.24.1267906376185; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:12:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <970380131003061159i49dbd22cl4ec4856adf2a340f@mail.gmail.com> References: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061159i49dbd22cl4ec4856adf2a340f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:12:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Jason Garrett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:13:05 -0000 On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: > >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and noticed >> that >> > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was >> > supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone shed >> > light on this subject? >> >> What makes you think debugging is still on? >> > > >From /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug > symbols > options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption > > why are these still in GENERIC after release? I can confirm debug symbols is still in the kernel, but that is most likely used for backtraces and debugging when a kernel panic happens. This is instead of asking the user who had a kernel panic to rebuild with debugging to debug it. PREEMPTION as I understand it should have been removed from the kernel config file. It should have been removed from the GENERIC config file after RELENG_8_0_RELEASE tag is made. I don't know what your tag is when you update. Perhaps you're copying or using a config file from the BETA or RC days? I'll help until I can't help no more with your issue. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 20:14:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149E91065674 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B706C8FC18 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa20 with SMTP id a20so2609836gwa.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:14:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gsNBDcuH7VL9o2EQPmLcTR8Uph7YWpPZleor1Hy2yYw=; b=BvO8UcFUd+on6VmTiCOf8CCgsV2NGaEdxEzd9MSnEYw78McyK5AM7DGVJMHxzb/mJl mXVbowswmhgrzz+l1wcSjmmYRut4/2NRz7FsIrTCcgobXh2S5rWxM1hegpBAL6eT8uMb UwsWSOO8H5qsjFgxztrzwJlVXdgW6pzNMxQ6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o52u1Z2C+SfHtjjtDFtjnDYCD4Ryu92LnOppaUe28taENg1dhCzOJckqm15EMqDW7e 5VWMVFb8dgDrLhJ7kNBpX8ueQWDcvqZdo+/5upKVajkLFnoffCezWbvnlLgMz1cwVsuk X0yHA2/S+rIyBMYOzT2RaqagWcM/YxdXznRb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.1.4 with SMTP id 4mr2479158yba.317.1267906443353; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:14:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B8EF97D.1080204@gmail.com> References: <4B8EDF8C.2050301@gmail.com> <4B8E8190.1000905@gmail.com> <4B8E82B6.9020607@kompasmedia.nl> <4B8EF97D.1080204@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:14:03 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003061214w24fc1c8fu7ac6ccfe2dc84653@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Suitable laptop for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:14:12 -0000 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 18:06, Aaron Lewis wrote: > Bas v.d. Wiel wrote: > >> Aaron Lewis wrote: >> >>> >>> Umm... that's incorrect. Maybe you mean ATI doesn't supply closed >>>> drivers for FreeBSD (although they do have Linux drivers, I think). >>>> >>>> >>>> Well , the opensource ati driver doesn't work for me , no matter linux >>> or FreeBSD , it crashes >>> I've read the documents , and found my ATI is on the support list , but >>> it just don't work ;-( >>> >>> Are you saying the R400 has both integrated and discrete video cards? >>>> Lenovo's web site doesn't seem very oriented to telling potential customers >>>> details about their newer computers. >>>> >>>> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA >>>> >>> I bought it in china , you'll had to know R400 has lots of types , mine >>> is 2784a18. >>> Of course you can choose to buy an energy-save laptop , which has on >>> independent Video Cards , >>> Just an build-in intel Video Card , it's better for power saving someway. >>> >>> It's very strange that your machine should crash so early in its boot >> process. I don't own any ATI hardware so I'm not entirely sure on this, but >> my impression is that booting into the console should work with just about >> any kind of video hardware. Does Windows actually work with the ATI card? >> I'm beginning to suspect broken hardware here.. >> >> Bas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Yeah , when i enable "Switchable Video Card" in BIOS , my Linux won't start > X11 , > fglrx driver doesn't allow me to do so , it tell me directly to disable > this feature , > and must turn to "Discrete Card" Mode. > > And if i do so , after boot menu , right after the progress bar , ( not > the boot loader ) > i don't know how to describe this , it just hangs at prompt when i press > enter. > > I think it's because my ATI Video Card is kind of special , it has > "Switchable Video Card" ability , > some new features , even ATI official linux driver can't really handle this > , and for BSD , > it even don't boot. > > > -- > Best Regards, > Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0xA476D2E9 > irc: A4r0n on freenode > > I also have a Dell D630, but I have not tested with FreeBSD yet. I think after reading this thread I will wipe the M$ off the drive and attempt to get FBSD working according to my needs. I will also make a section at http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ with my findings. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 20:31:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B695F1065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81EC28FC13 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22786 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2010 20:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2010 20:31:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=XS+eVaMt/iOjZYr7PR0G5P3h4bomjtLJuSlUXUA+t9wFx9Lz/JC3cVGLP4PV0/t7VTBzdnjr9S3V/mnEzJPrVsOJQpj8AznQ+GbLvAvqoNt7y3NKedsmQQiH33menIfk; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.104]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1No0eK-0001yJ-GA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:31:00 -0700 Message-ID: <4B92BB64.1090705@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:28 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0950FF7F83713D5F4F89AD49" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: Java in FF3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:31:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0950FF7F83713D5F4F89AD49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it because of the thread about upgrading from perl5.8 to perl5.10 (the instructions in UPDATING don't seem to be working for me, but that's not a concern as I'm not looking to upgrade to 5.10, yet). I didn't know if this question belongs here or on the -ports mailing list, but I am not x-posting. I'll just start a discussion there depending on how I'm informed here. --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig0950FF7F83713D5F4F89AD49 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLkrt/AAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0Fz0H/25a26vwSv9YTwJkxLWpMMdg SQtCEISms8pXdqCJOwToVi2DPQAQbC4gp8FEGc6VE8M1pFwnWhVSxzdzmipDQ95P +6sQieSTDpGnS8bWsQi69Zk3imGgqdRqy/8zM6qzyBGZjvgfe1wC+8bDq3HzcZ7p khFdt4JB4wIX2x2ZNmT22bt8j7lZ9DVI69G1IGXN54CvPUYAbPe7y2cxeX4rsJ25 HwwpFi38aRm3HoShXCPtm8q/llBk0XhuyjXNIy3x7Nd6cDyhhllZInbPzXGJGjU7 SI4Zf9IFSdBky0/YIYdfRrXA5G2i67Sr4gqDpyLex7Xo2jHlYgPC9TESjxIdoD0= =4Wfi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0950FF7F83713D5F4F89AD49-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 21:54:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8FC106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3678FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so771256gyg.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:54:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/MdkGCcx2rVIoEriEhCfGcvaYijhUjUcqXf0r5t08bc=; b=iNB7N/En7PARDK714UMt5lpsCsG0zUsKU/1DaLjiqcxvWxeLWIDY2AM7W1FtqhMYrO RCpnVW9bI+/hrLM28G9WuB/7+8BK0RjiqwN6siiBhi8fBOTo3PP1x5DsLMxDy24ST/+i 5sOWvmv+E7Riclf/Qp73ioEA++LSzUw7YEves= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HCeiblr2Fe5cZEKe3J6Dg4cvdm1qCsZA9DfVVNTWyPHvjULHOb3Guxc+KJS1+lt0Bm NFV/aA6LRQ+MvFne06CK9P6D7dDsuQrFwpKMqlhhuTvxAPGp2zvYQ5Z16EGqysPTyAtA Yfd5s0FhYLLd1ypT7TxCedcO64qVl8rz+I74Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.99.8 with SMTP id w8mr2577340ybb.37.1267912476215; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:54:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <970380131003061218i351c87acs5eb8a57eb0e2a969@mail.gmail.com> References: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061159i49dbd22cl4ec4856adf2a340f@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061218i351c87acs5eb8a57eb0e2a969@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:54:36 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003061354r7ebbf155ub0d9ad478670aba9@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:54:41 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:18, Jason Garrett wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:12, Tim Judd wrote: > >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: >> > >> >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: >> >> > Hello all, >> >> > >> >> > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and >> noticed >> >> that >> >> > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging was >> >> > supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone >> shed >> >> > light on this subject? >> >> >> >> What makes you think debugging is still on? >> >> >> > >> > >From /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC >> > >> > makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug >> > symbols >> > options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread >> preemption >> > >> > why are these still in GENERIC after release? >> >> I can confirm debug symbols is still in the kernel, but that is most >> likely used for backtraces and debugging when a kernel panic happens. >> This is instead of asking the user who had a kernel panic to rebuild >> with debugging to debug it. >> >> PREEMPTION as I understand it should have been removed from the kernel >> config file. It should have been removed from the GENERIC config file >> after RELENG_8_0_RELEASE tag is made. I don't know what your tag is >> when you update. Perhaps you're copying or using a config file from >> the BETA or RC days? >> >> >> I'll help until I can't help no more with your issue. >> > Tim, > > Thanks for the quick responses. I downloaded 8.0 RELEASE iso disc 1 from > ftp yesterday and did a fresh install, I then used csup to catch RELENG_8_0 > made world, built and installed kernel then installed world without > problems. > > > sun# uname -ar > FreeBSD sun.blah.blah 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Mar 6 > 10:24:07 UTC 2010 root@sun.blah.blah:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > > This is totally a fresh system installed from .iso yesterday. > > If I can provide more info, please tell me. > > >> >> --Tim >> > > Anyone else? I don't mind commenting this stuff out of my own kernel, but maybe a PR is needed here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 22:47:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF17106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797E8FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3318896bwz.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.141.135 with SMTP id m7mr2370197bku.183.1267915612775; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from haydn.nognu.de (haydn.nognu.de [81.169.170.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm430269bwz.3.2010.03.06.14.46.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:46:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:46:49 +0100 From: Frank Steinborn To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20100306224649.GA38524@haydn.nognu.de> References: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061159i49dbd22cl4ec4856adf2a340f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:47:01 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug > > symbols > > options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption > > > > why are these still in GENERIC after release? > > I can confirm debug symbols is still in the kernel, but that is most > likely used for backtraces and debugging when a kernel panic happens. > This is instead of asking the user who had a kernel panic to rebuild > with debugging to debug it. It creates a 'kernel.debug' compiled with -g as well as a normal kernel. You can use 'make install.debug' to install the debug kernel. It doesn't have any impact on the normal kernel at all. > PREEMPTION as I understand it should have been removed from the kernel > config file. It should have been removed from the GENERIC config file > after RELENG_8_0_RELEASE tag is made. I don't know what your tag is > when you update. Perhaps you're copying or using a config file from > the BETA or RC days? PREEMPTION has nothing to do with debugging at all. It allows threads that are in the kernel to be preempted by higher priority threads. It helps with interactivity and allows interrupt threads to run sooner rather than waiting. See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES Bye, Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 22:57:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBF2106566B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D59438FC1B for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 22:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67698 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2010 22:57:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=g9WRA93xtE31h3nN4b1VulWfWnyJYDa0SiodOtT5CLXmgs95ZjYonl7e0F18r8mnxil7JCtiqAe2KoOl29/exUmXUlaabA3CHQDK9ZEGXHQ1uMZN6339IWlNfWXJrn0zUpZXL+XGm16Tc/QMPNBKOM4BDr5UR35y1XghWbcnQ4w= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Mar 2010 14:57:50 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: yA1ajWwVM1mdRzWIRhCB_KXSFLmH_2xVaI7ZzeDgZnWxJ0tPMrjlDgMf6HBX7BhGum8K8CpVXmCHXymkg64quqkRPrZNf5LICf.uoytCfrpeJg6RQk_EP7cxqAnL4bn5.X7_CDgxNVQWLVKrJlmYjRKrN0g_Lr4.Rfd1zIdI2IVRBImJJ7Xk4sw99NQEO5L_phHUWqHRkHKJhKoVV3qI8178ym7EZJF2i6Ib4Yu3Xo8XowJt_aZJXWR1aDwfqtQ56lE2NQMswfIn.fg9CKfUA8IH91i9rdBulmTdOvSiAl8Z_t87UDFHUANuLSIvzwXqSCdkrYm4XuhagBVAvsNYKg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AC6FF22825 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:57:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:57:49 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100306175749.684107e8@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <4B92BB64.1090705@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4B92BB64.1090705@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/7QOcy2=ArQro=A0/UxK82wK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Java in FF3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:57:51 -0000 --Sig_/7QOcy2=ArQro=A0/UxK82wK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:28 -0600 Programmer In Training articulated: > According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in > FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I > just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it > because of the thread about upgrading from perl5.8 to perl5.10 (the > instructions in UPDATING don't seem to be working for me, but that's > not a concern as I'm not looking to upgrade to 5.10, yet). >=20 > I didn't know if this question belongs here or on the -ports mailing > list, but I am not x-posting. I'll just start a discussion there > depending on how I'm informed here. Please check out this URL: http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml I believer that the FreeBSD version of Java is several versions behind that. Therefore, it would appear to be a FreeBSD problem. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crud. --Sig_/7QOcy2=ArQro=A0/UxK82wK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLkt3tAAoJEGnxpuiKsj5Sh4UH/0gPReQMkD7I+ZCcRDJgFhEZ 0ZRU/LC+MAUKB++sV8re/sDMYnWzyxCsT4eyNJ9DtC0oC3SdGBXu5rNrn7+W2ZkU Vj3d5+KeacJQrKesjzbX9i6uOyIdwnQyQgw/MpIi0IyCTDURFQTQJw+4/G5EAldR pmsEhfCu3wJ5wYQH1t/puabHHW7jpAU3C9MAHv1lZPQf01NOVgvO689/6BzS06Oz Bkc8U8tsnum+iSyhEEHFpAFz7gZPgqKEhpM7kBeoz1uHbVnx9EmI9RYoqMjVWIEC U4M609YcisF6ksRQcQGIRdpRX8tQSNpf0ZQchdYO7czj8uMErEFyyevBc/afy14= =dlc0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/7QOcy2=ArQro=A0/UxK82wK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 23:16:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC4A106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB0418FC1A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26871 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2010 23:16:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box264.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.64) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2010 23:16:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=joseph-a-nagy-jr.us; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:X-Identified-User; b=j8WKb6VPYCN8LE48eLOi6rOprkkHT39DmnPYm6lWGkaJnLXXGCbYQcaF34m7DovoabdADZNlw06rappCjKnMFZoyu0bpUM1/1LDpHoc2dIEIJHyYQfGl0zDej3FX6MNq; Received: from [206.74.86.236] (helo=[192.168.1.104]) by box264.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1No3E5-0005Ry-SC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:16:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4B92E223.5060406@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:15:47 -0600 From: Programmer In Training User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100203 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4B92BB64.1090705@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <20100306175749.684107e8@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20100306175749.684107e8@scorpio.seibercom.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9E9729AC2EAF87A612EE7BD1" X-Identified-User: {2250:box264.bluehost.com:ameliora:joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} {sentby:smtp auth 206.74.86.236 authed with pit@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us} Subject: [ANSWERED] Re: Java in FF3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:16:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9E9729AC2EAF87A612EE7BD1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/06/10 16:57, Jerry wrote: > Please check out this URL: >=20 > http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml >=20 > I believer that the FreeBSD version of Java is several versions behind > that. Therefore, it would appear to be a FreeBSD problem. >=20 I'll just wait for FreeBSD to update their Java. I'm not recompiling everything currently linked against the Java I have installed (to include OOo, which I would just upgrade to 3.2 from what I have). Too much hassle. Thanks (that link needs to go into UPDATING with the FF3.6 entry). --=20 Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscrib= ed. --------------enig9E9729AC2EAF87A612EE7BD1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLkuIvAAoJEENZQ8DH7rW0aXsIALxqKp97F3BYcc2GPMQ+oyab u0PT6wKmxhny4hODpjgkqR3ueiE9P1UzLiEP4fM0U/AXd102ZTWW4QjSVa2I8hvX 5TckrfMHrV37fbsaIh4mMnp+HsNojOGOsqwYJK1iq6ktCgAvovBaRI2i9J8xWib1 g3Izk3TmECoLbVK1BDERdLbc9aeDNsD5SwnZKIdJjXsXGjLGV3A3RazqILGXCkWi w5roAA8f2gNvRwL4TIfvtWsNPFkz+34xnLR0vIOdHwXaC4Jz9/ay64lh6mYhWoQk PErmxMALP41xVkhpvab/rmZpLVq+UJrCleukd99FCy5Dl0Xt4iMadjZksnVCq7M= =K0IU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9E9729AC2EAF87A612EE7BD1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 23:32:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97C7106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E848FC0A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 23:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so798008gyg.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dwgLkWheHdBHjz1PapdgDXFSN7lb/JWzxCmFGeyQcfM=; b=uS9l/U4MKqc4ftimmloPZT9IKOHzq7LzRFg11/g8ATOGSapme5QB+r2kfqqBeDZQoS vyzhgxcNyIv7bQZxNNxVgO3sNuQGbZmJZaUd6VtuOkJrrmCNQkrAArhmaE88w5Kk5L91 +EFIvjsTwwPgzOCq8AX60SMwHLIdV650ueCNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dzeKSckZkqfP9P7o23Pf+aOOPPIqDKEqYqmaOLkVBW0WcWN8tmWQkC4S6h891q7VUO mfuswGcVHlPBIvmVBRNHw5zNnUBfZ1J2ysQr042MCoWOCKRa/gaa9bJhbD+pjciRzlZQ Lqb5YjISozd8HT7A7NN1X2AR9X6LQiHaiEIRI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.119.33 with SMTP id r33mr2585969ybc.304.1267918320820; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:32:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <72bb879822f66d3a00d732c5bd39ec6a.squirrel@www.vap.navalradio.net> References: <970380131003060754t32f70d1x9c40d716f01b325a@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061159i49dbd22cl4ec4856adf2a340f@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061218i351c87acs5eb8a57eb0e2a969@mail.gmail.com> <970380131003061354r7ebbf155ub0d9ad478670aba9@mail.gmail.com> <72bb879822f66d3a00d732c5bd39ec6a.squirrel@www.vap.navalradio.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:32:00 -0600 Message-ID: <970380131003061532wd04931fhfe6422ce26c92664@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Debug still in kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:32:13 -0000 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 17:06, Mikhail Goriachev wrote: > > Jason Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:18, Jason Garrett wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 14:12, Tim Judd wrote: > >> > >>> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > >>> > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 13:51, Tim Judd wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> On 3/6/10, Jason Garrett wrote: > >>> >> > Hello all, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > I am currently tracking RELENG_8_0. I did a csup last night and > >>> noticed > >>> >> that > >>> >> > debug is still enabled in the GENERIC kernel. I thought debugging > >>> was > >>> >> > supposed to be left out once the 8 branch went RELEASE? Can anyone > >>> shed > >>> >> > light on this subject? > >>> >> > >>> >> What makes you think debugging is still on? > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > >From /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > >>> > > >>> > makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) > >>> debug > >>> > symbols > >>> > options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread > >>> preemption > >>> > > >>> > why are these still in GENERIC after release? > >>> > >>> I can confirm debug symbols is still in the kernel, but that is most > >>> likely used for backtraces and debugging when a kernel panic happens. > >>> This is instead of asking the user who had a kernel panic to rebuild > >>> with debugging to debug it. > >>> > >>> PREEMPTION as I understand it should have been removed from the kernel > >>> config file. It should have been removed from the GENERIC config file > >>> after RELENG_8_0_RELEASE tag is made. I don't know what your tag is > >>> when you update. Perhaps you're copying or using a config file from > >>> the BETA or RC days? > >>> > >>> > >>> I'll help until I can't help no more with your issue. > >>> > >> Tim, > >> > >> Thanks for the quick responses. I downloaded 8.0 RELEASE iso disc 1 from > >> ftp yesterday and did a fresh install, I then used csup to catch > >> RELENG_8_0 > >> made world, built and installed kernel then installed world without > >> problems. > >> > >> > >> sun# uname -ar > >> FreeBSD sun.blah.blah 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Mar > >> 6 > >> 10:24:07 UTC 2010 root@sun.blah.blah:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > >> i386 > >> > >> This is totally a fresh system installed from .iso yesterday. > >> > >> If I can provide more info, please tell me. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> --Tim > >>> > >> > >> > > Anyone else? I don't mind commenting this stuff out of my own kernel, but > > maybe a PR is needed here? > > > In addition to what others have said: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=66508&postcount=43 > > > > Regards, > Mikhail. > > Thanks all, while I disagree that the debug line should be in the RELENG_8_0 branch, (useful for STABLE maybe and necessary for CURRENT) I guess I'll have to deal with what I'm dealt.