From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 01:30:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F242106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 01:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A4D8FC1A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 01:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn5 with SMTP id 5so2842611iwn.13 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/ofY/AvWyZuHKkPDonsfjCU/HupPzNxAQ6ZzearblyI=; b=yCF4QABL0ZGgIM76kr9W1AU6Q0wpvcQ3M6LtNkT/vGNrP0/ZLLwv3LQGYms3WfESOj SYcKjuf9CaqOIiT4XVXFSF9jyL+Dr2F289q7WMjPBq/hrJuTHExa+fw7ytXTRu21l5B6 T4+vl2AEfk9wdBog/2C2NLEjkfMnrVc4AI/6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YziG6N+ouq/eDToIGnLW9oDk7XnOLHD7hPOL/m/piVb6r2dOZ0Czqe7yPoPoNgasBX D6EQBl6ZIW0FCTomJ4g+qvBic3RXHmzJ4bxBEYIT3Xu7LzchmDDPvlEQentIlR2dXuFN cfzEhAqUROgOdeQODTx7gcsEjy1iFAUM6QHnc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.180.220 with SMTP id bv28mr2715212ibb.194.1275787814189; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.182.196 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:30:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brandon Gooch To: Aiza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:30:15 -0000 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Aiza wrote: > Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> >>> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 20:51:28 +0800 >>> From: Aiza >>> To: Robert Bonomi >>> Subject: Re: .sh & getopts >>> >>> Robert Bonomi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =A0Thu Jun =A03 23:36:28 201= 0 >>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:35:56 +0800 >>>>> From: Aiza >>>>> To: "questions@freebsd.org" >>>>> Cc: Subject: .sh & getopts >>>>> >>>>> Have this code >>>>> >>>>> shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in >>>>> =A0 =A0u) action=3D"freebsd-update";; >>>>> =A0 =A0g) action=3D"freebsd-upgrade";; >>>>> =A0 =A0r) action=3D"freebsd-rollback";; >>>>> =A0 =A0?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; >>>>> esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Command being executed looks like this, cmd action -flags aaaa bbbb >>>>> >>>>> Only a single -flag in allowed on the command. >>>>> >>>>> $# gives a count of parms ie: aaaa bbbb. in this example a count of 2= . >>>>> >>>>> I am looking for something to check that holds the number of flags on >>>>> the command. so I can code. if flag_count gt 1 =3D error >>>>> >>>>> Is there such a thing created by getopts? >>>> >>>> Why bother?? >>>> >>>> =A0flag_count=3D0 >>>> =A0shift; while getopts :ugr: arg >>>> =A0 if flag_count =3D 1; then >>>> =A0 =A0 exerr ${cmd_usage} >>>> =A0 fi =A0 =A0flag_count=3D1; >>>> =A0 do case ${arg} in >>>> =A0 {{blah-blah}} >>>> >>> nope dont work. >> >> Yup. =A0I was in a hurry, got the code mechanics wrong. =A0it needs to b= e: >> =A0 =A0 flag_count=3D0 >> =A0 =A0 shift; =A0 =A0 =A0while getopts :ugr: arg ; do >> =A0 =A0 =A0 if flag_count =3D 1; then >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 exerr ${cmd_usage} >> =A0 =A0 =A0 fi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0flag_count=3D1; >> =A0 =A0 =A0 case ${arg} in >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 {{blah-blah}} >> =A0 =A0 =A0 ecas >> =A0 =A0 done >> >> >> > I think I see what your are saying. so to adapt it to my code > > > flag_count=3D0 > shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do > =A0flag_count + 1; > =A0case ${arg} in > =A0 =A0 u) action=3D"freebsd-update";; > =A0 =A0 g) action=3D"freebsd-upgrade";; > =A0 =A0 r) action=3D"freebsd-rollback";; > =A0 =A0 ?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; > =A0esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) > > > =A0if flag_count gt 3; then > =A0 =A0exerr ${cmd_usage} > =A0fi > > > I think I got the concept correct, but the flag_count + 1 is not correct.= I > get "flag_count: not found" when I run it this way. You could use: flag_count=3D`expr $flag_count + 1` or... ...anyone else? These types of open-ended questions are always fun :) -Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 01:58:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FF41065675 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 01:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A370F8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 01:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o561w6fK016253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:58:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o561w6fa000680 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:58:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o561lcnA076135; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:47:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:47:38 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Brandon Gooch Message-ID: <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sat, 05 Jun 2010 20:58:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Aiza , "questions@freebsd.org" , Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:58:08 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 05), Brandon Gooch said: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Aiza wrote: > > Robert Bonomi wrote: > >>> From: Aiza > >>> Robert Bonomi wrote: > >>>>> From: Aiza > >>>>> > >>>>> Have this code > >>>>> > >>>>> shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in > >>>>>    u) action="freebsd-update";; > >>>>>    g) action="freebsd-upgrade";; > >>>>>    r) action="freebsd-rollback";; > >>>>>    ?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; > >>>>> esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) > >>>>> > > > > flag_count=0 > > shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do > >  flag_count + 1; > >  case ${arg} in > >     u) action="freebsd-update";; > >     g) action="freebsd-upgrade";; > >     r) action="freebsd-rollback";; > >     ?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; > >  esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) > > > > > >  if flag_count gt 3; then > >    exerr ${cmd_usage} > >  fi > > > > > > I think I got the concept correct, but the flag_count + 1 is not correct. I > > get "flag_count: not found" when I run it this way. > > You could use: > > flag_count=`expr $flag_count + 1` /bin/sh can do math on its own: flag_count=$((flag_count+1)) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 02:21:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57151065675 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 02:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792FB8FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 02:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6600 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2010 02:21:47 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Jun 2010 02:21:47 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EB85082E; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6ABF31CCD3; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:21:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: n dhert References: <44wrue7j3q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44eigl63qr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 22:21:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: (n. dhert's message of "Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:13:13 +0200") Message-ID: <44aar8zyrv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:21:48 -0000 n dhert writes: > But is there a workarround somehow in case I DO need to specify options > different from the default ?? > I'd really want to know that, for in case ... "cd /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4 && make config" This is covered in "man ports". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 02:30:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2045106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 02:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EA38FC1C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 02:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SS6i1e0051YDfWL5CSW6e2; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:30:06 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SSW41e00C1f6R9u3gSW5yZ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:30:06 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:30:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 19:30:03 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606023003.GA69297@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:30:06 -0000 On Sat 05 Jun 2010 at 16:24:36 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: >On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: >> hello, >> i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i >> found out that there are also much more. >> can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) >> > >Too broad a topic I suspect fo u to get an answer here. In FBSD the >base system is completely separate from the applications, that is >really great because for example your system upgrades are >independendent of applications / ports. The base shell is in the base >system so don't replace the shell for the root user but rather start >bash from your root account if you wish. This will make sense when >your system breaks in an upgrade for example. > >For everything else you can safely use bash and choose bash for your >normal users. I use bash all the time even for root, but in the latter >case I start it manually. Definitely too broad a topic for a mailing list. Probably the best way to approach it is to look first at the Bourne shelli (sh), which probably has the smallest and simplest set of features. The C shell (csh) is, as the name suggests, more like the C programming language. It was developed at UC Berkeley, and thus has always had a close association with BSD. One of the major innovations introduced by the C shell is *history*. tcsh is an enhanced but completely compatible version of csh. The Korn shell (ksh) combined many features from the C shell with the functionality of the Bourne shell. Among the many new features introduced by the Korn shell are pattern-based variable substitution, e.g. ${varname%%pattern}. Bash picks up where the Korn shell leaves off, and adds even more features. More features usually means increased size and sometimes slower execution. In fact, if you look at the manpage for bash, the first sentence in the last section ("BUGS") is a frank admission that "It's too big and too slow." It's also too GPL-encumbered for many BSD folk. You can get many of the same features in a lighterweight package, with a friendlier license, by going with one of the Korn shells instead. I've been using shells/mksh from ports after having it recommended to me in the forums, and I've been very satisfied with it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 03:56:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6B5106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 03:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FE88FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 03:56:21 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsIZAGq5CkzKRa1aPGdsb2JhbAAHgxaEUpZxAQEBATWtXI9igSaDA24Eg0g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,370,1272816000"; d="scan'208";a="2193267" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.90]) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2010 11:56:18 +0800 Message-ID: <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:56:17 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:56:23 -0000 > > /bin/sh can do math on its own: > > flag_count=$((flag_count+1)) > > I want to know if more that one flag has been coded on the command. So add 1 to counter if that flag was processed. After all the flags are processed and fall out of getopts, then check flag counter for value. Ok I coded like this shift; while getopts biugrs: arg; do case ${arg} in b) action="buildworld"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+ i) action="installworld"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; u) action="freebsd-update"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; g) action="freebsd-upgrade"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; r) action="freebsd-rollback"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; s) ezjail_sourcetree=${OPTARG}; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; ?) exerr ${usage_update};; esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTIND} - 1 )) testing with 4 different flags on the command so should match here. if $flag_count = 4; then echo "yes 4 count" fi exerr "hard stop" When it runs I get this =1: not found 0=1: not found 0=1: not found 0=1: not found 0: not found hard stop What is still wrong here From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 04:37:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06C8106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4251E8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1062973bwz.13 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:37:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fkkx1XvKSbLPBVrPwCFdsAuNdTdzWG5ax1o9Pw99Rpg=; b=PUJEO/l8p9p5Dv69CFadhReeoPlrpIGl6/njl1fnu9nTb776iOXi4TRU4MxRwn1ewc CUm87aQsC2BdTkdojo4xuf3s75DFI+nGeO6tzn6oB++eiCLYSVEGtACkoDbMnVLxHwLi 0Z/hWl8u1C31nTCWgsyTkzkS6z4YodppDyrhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GJI4DWfZLU7Lazj8Oj5eKISVSUz7wzcSkFHZEmKyV+eyKxeJGgZWHyL58b2Q3b6UCb xG2PTu2pA2baXDRwRx4bqBuX4QfPtYR1j+kukaNtiIvYhf18NmrJSqCm0vN//iNU0uNg 8OJva7AviFGsB+YkONEtneuWCyAw61xpSQpSU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.6.68 with SMTP id 4mr5415806bky.163.1275799030074; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.100 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:37:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: port config screen TAB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:37:11 -0000 When installing of upgrading ports you can be presented with a blue configuration screen and use arroys keys and TAB to move arround. Now I have the problem that these keys no longer work... e.g. TAB doesn't jump to the OK button, but just moves the cursor 8 positions to the right. This is on the console of the FBSD system as root rebooting doesn't help This hasn't happened before (system in use 1,5 years) How come and how to remedy? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 04:40:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0981065670 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915B58FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47AD628424; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 00:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 23:40:21 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100508 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:40:24 -0000 On 06/05/2010 10:56 PM, Aiza wrote: > i) action="installworld"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; > ... > What is still wrong here Bourne shell expands variables to their contents before evaluating. Thus, the above assignment ends up expanding to '0=1'. Leave out the $ on the target variable, and it becomes 'flag_count=1', which is more likely what you intended. The other syntax does make for some pretty nifty hacks, though. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 04:57:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98451106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF768FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:57:40 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMWAHvHCkzKRa1aPGdsb2JhbAAHgxaEUpZxAQEBATWteQqPXYEngwNtBINI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,370,1272816000"; d="scan'208";a="2201676" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.90]) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2010 12:57:37 +0800 Message-ID: <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:57:37 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CyberLeo Kitsana References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:57:42 -0000 CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > On 06/05/2010 10:56 PM, Aiza wrote: >> i) action="installworld"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; >> ... >> What is still wrong here > > Bourne shell expands variables to their contents before evaluating. > Thus, the above assignment ends up expanding to '0=1'. Leave out the $ > on the target variable, and it becomes 'flag_count=1', which is more > likely what you intended. > i) action="installworld"; flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; But when tested it just put 1 into flag_count. it is not adding one to the value all ready in flag_count. Stilling missing the point here I want to perform math here. if more than one flag is coded them I want the count to increase by 1 for each flag on the command, not change the contents of the count to 1. Again take note this is .sh shell type. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 05:17:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70D9106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 05:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813998FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 05:17:49 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMWADTMCkzKRa1aPGdsb2JhbAAHgxaEUpZxAQEBATWuBwqPXYEngwNtBINI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,370,1272816000"; d="scan'208";a="2202770" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.90]) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2010 13:17:47 +0800 Message-ID: <4C0B2F7B.9040609@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:17:47 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CyberLeo Kitsana References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 05:17:51 -0000 Aiza wrote: > CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: >> On 06/05/2010 10:56 PM, Aiza wrote: >>> i) action="installworld"; $flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; >>> ... >>> What is still wrong here >> >> Bourne shell expands variables to their contents before evaluating. >> Thus, the above assignment ends up expanding to '0=1'. Leave out the $ >> on the target variable, and it becomes 'flag_count=1', which is more >> likely what you intended. >> > > i) action="installworld"; flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; > > But when tested it just put 1 into flag_count. it is not adding one to > the value all ready in flag_count. > > Stilling missing the point here > I want to perform math here. if more than one flag is coded them I want > the count to increase by 1 for each flag on the command, not change the > contents of the count to 1. > > Again take note this is .sh shell type. > shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in u) action="freebsd-update";; g) action="freebsd-upgrade";; r) action="freebsd-rollback";; ?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) doing more testing if found that the above $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) subtraction is not work either. echo "OPTION = $OPTION" shows a value of 5, which is the 4 flags plus the leading parm. I thought $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) meant it was subtracting 1 from the parm count which should make it 4 which is the number of flags i passed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 06:40:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3995C1065670 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BC18FC13 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.135] (helo=smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OL9Ws-00013O-Gu; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:40:18 +0200 Received: from [84.25.59.18] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OL9Wr-0001zg-Tw; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:40:17 +0200 Received: from [192.168.13.34] (peters-ipod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.34]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00673983D; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:40:17 +0200 (CEST) References: Message-Id: <03C15DCC-9965-443D-86C3-6497028E231F@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 7E18) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:40:29 +0200 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OL9Wr-0001zg-Tw X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_50 0.00, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: why so many errors with ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:40:20 -0000 On 6 jun 2010, at 00:39, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am coming from the linux world i was a gentoo user and i have > install on > my second machine FBSD,i have made many formats but every time i try > to > install a graphical enviroment (such as xfce,kde) many many errors > come up. > i have heard that the ports are more stable than portage but with > portage i > didn't have so many errors (actually i can't recall a time when > portage > "died") > > am i doing sth wrong or ports comes up with many errors?? > > > P.S.: 1 week not i haven't manage to install a graphical enviroment > > > thanks in advance > ______________________________ I had lots of problems updating my ports due to the change in libgmp. According to the UPDATE file in /urs/ports portupgrade would automatically take care of it, however it didn't. Not sure if related to the OP's question, but maybe worth mentioning. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 07:09:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1ACE1065670 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6373B8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5679Mww077904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:09:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0B49A2.1000009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:09:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Brandon Gooch , Aiza , "questions@freebsd.org" , Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 07:09:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 02:47:38, Dan Nelson wrote: >> flag_count=`expr $flag_count + 1` > /bin/sh can do math on its own: > > flag_count=$((flag_count+1)) flag_count=$(( $flag_count + 1 )) surely? Needs to dereference the variable inside the arithmetic expansion. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLSaIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzQvQCfUnjDCkQ1Xk18MiENPTBhEKlA PIgAnivZn/n+vJVXYFZnpOcrJ0/6voQV =kZtj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 07:12:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15D0106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434A08FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o567CHOK077960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:12:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0B4A51.20402@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:12:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: CyberLeo Kitsana , "questions@freebsd.org" , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 07:12:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 05:57:37, Aiza wrote: > i) action="installworld"; flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; Try it like this instead: i) action="installworld"; flag_count=$(( $flag_count + 1 ));; (Obviously, apply the equivalent change to the other lines) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLSlEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzKtwCfSif5jfx11N4lij1vi2Bc9pC1 4yUAn3F9wdz6diW3iFkMPHQ1OZXNWXoc =3EdD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 07:41:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672B41065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76648FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:40:59 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMWAOvtCkzKRa1aPGdsb2JhbAAHgxaEUpZxAQEBATWtWI9lgSaDA24Eg0gi X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,371,1272816000"; d="scan'208";a="2218830" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.90]) by avmxsmtp3.comclark.com with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2010 15:40:57 +0800 Message-ID: <4C0B5108.2080903@comclark.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:40:56 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> <4C0B4A51.20402@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C0B4A51.20402@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 07:41:00 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/06/2010 05:57:37, Aiza wrote: > > >> i) action="installworld"; flag_count=$((flag_count+1));; > > Try it like this instead: > > i) action="installworld"; flag_count=$(( $flag_count + 1 ));; > > (Obviously, apply the equivalent change to the other lines) > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Thank you that worked. I have been looking for documentation on freebsd's sh shell programming. Want to understand what is happening in that getopts I posted. Where can I find real explanations? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 08:28:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B18106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2088D8FC19 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so2442282wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:28:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.147 with SMTP id a19mr1041490wef.93.1275811223470; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.160.1 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 01:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:00:23 +0200 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: What happens with x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:28:52 -0000 Hi all, First of all my apologies if this is not an appropriate list. I'm a newbie in FreeBSD and I'm a bit overwhelmed about mailing lists and asking for help. If this list is not appropriate for this question I'd appreciate if anyone could suggest an appropriate one. The fact is that I've just installed FreeBSD 8.0 on my laptop and I'm starting to configure it. I'm trying to install the "x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2" port by running cd /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2; make install clean This in turn tries to download some stuff, and it keeps on seeking for "gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm" on many different servers, all of them respond with "File unavailable", like this: => gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/rpm/i386/fedora/10. => Attempting to fetch from http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/. fetch: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../updates/10/i386/. fetch: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/core/../updates/10/i386/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: Not Found => Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/. fetch: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: Not Found Error messages like these keep on appearing on the console, and the port is never installed. I was wondering if someone more experienced than me could shed some light on how to get this port installed. Thanks in advance, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 08:33:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56FE1065675 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A738FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o568XIT3069015; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:33:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BF5A5BA8D; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:33:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:33:18 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20100606083318.GA14910@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100605061734.GA7082@thought.org> <20100605094715.GA37824@slackbox.erewhon.net> <20100605210831.GA87130@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100605210831.GA87130@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: long day, {04jun10} X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:33:22 -0000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:08:34PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > The TeX in ports is outdated and abandoned upstream. Install TeXLive in= stead. >=20 > yup, there is a tkxmlive port in ports/textproc. more to the > point, i found a slew of texlive stuff hosts on google. > =09 The textproc/tkxmlive port has nothing to do with TeXLive.=20 Currently, the TeXLive distribution of TeX is not in ports. Probably because it uses its own configuration script and package manager. But TeXLive is not difficult to install. I've documented my installation on= my UNIX miscellanea page:=20 http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/unix/misc.xhtml#updatingtexlivetoversion2009 If you want to use ports that depend on TeX but are not in TeXLive (like e.g. auctex) you have to patch those ports' Makefiles before installing or upgrading them. My diff file for print/auctex is shown below. ----- mak.diff for print/auctex ----- --- Makefile.orig 2009-07-31 15:55:10.000000000 +0200 +++ Makefile 2009-12-21 16:06:05.000000000 +0100 @@ -16,8 +16,8 @@ MAINTAINER=3D hrs@FreeBSD.org COMMENT=3D Integrated environment for writing LaTeX using GNU Emacs =20 -BUILD_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base -RUN_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base +#BUILD_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base +#RUN_DEPENDS=3D ${MKTEXLSR}:${PORTSDIR}/print/teTeX-base =20 USE_GHOSTSCRIPT=3Dyes GNU_CONFIGURE=3D yes @@ -38,8 +38,8 @@ MKTEXLSR=3D${MKTEXLSR} INFO=3D auctex preview-latex =20 -TEXMFDIR=3D share/texmf -MKTEXLSR=3D ${LOCALBASE}/bin/mktexlsr +TEXMFDIR=3D texlive/2009/texmf +MKTEXLSR=3D ${LOCALBASE}/texlive/2009/bin/amd64-freebsd/mktexlsr =20 NOT_FOR_ARCHS=3D ia64 ----- mak.diff for print/auctex ----- Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwLXU4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUP+ACfZ0OVB2ZcIVpfw4N5wvbQYwEj 8VAAn2fmiL3qNP48Udn1BF27ux0EN1aK =G8Ao -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 09:09:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C79106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB4F8FC1A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5699Llx079158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:09:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0B65C1.8030003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:09:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aiza References: <201006051513.o55FDCKj020952@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4C0ADBCF.8040506@comclark.com> <20100606014737.GG85961@dan.emsphone.com> <4C0B1C61.9030501@comclark.com> <4C0B26B5.3090901@cyberleo.net> <4C0B2AC1.1080805@comclark.com> <4C0B4A51.20402@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4C0B5108.2080903@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C0B5108.2080903@comclark.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: .sh & getopts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:09:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 08:40:56, Aiza wrote: > I have been looking for documentation on freebsd's sh shell programming. > Want to understand what is happening in that getopts I posted. Where can > I find real explanations? Well, the essential reference is the sh(1) man page. Just about everything you could need to know is in there, but possibly not in a way that you would find particularly accessible for deconstructing a piece of arbitrary code. In this sort of case, probably your best bet is to ask for advice. While such questions are verging on off-topic for this list they do seem to come up with reasonable frequency and usually receive pretty good answers. Let's see... You mean this, I take it: shift; while getopts :ugr: arg; do case ${arg} in u) action="freebsd-update";; g) action="freebsd-upgrade";; r) action="freebsd-rollback";; ?) exerr ${cmd_usage};; esac; done; shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) Let me reformat that a bit so it's clearer, and add some line numbers: 01: shift 02: while getopts :ugr: arg 03: do 04: case ${arg} in 05: u) 06: action="freebsd-update" 07: ;; 08: g) 09: action="freebsd-upgrade" 10: ;; 11; r) 12: action="freebsd-rollback" 13: ;; 14: ?) 15: exerr ${cmd_usage} 16: ;; 17: esac 18: done 19: shift $(( ${OPTION} -1 )) So, line 01 discards the first item from the argument list -- that's just the program name. (The argument list is available as $@ -- which is somewhat special cased, in that it acts as an array, which is otherwise not a type provided by posix sh(1)) Actually, I don't think you need to do this -- getopts is clever enough to deal with that itself. The while loop from lines 02 to 18 invokes getopts to process the argument list. getopts is a sh(1) built-in, but it behaves as if it is an external program. It takes two arguments: the list of option specifiers, and the variable name to set to the current arg being processed. Your option string indicates that you expect to deal with -u -g -r foo bar (ie. a bare argument with no option letter) (Not actually sure if the bare argument thing actually works. Usually, you use getopts to process all of the option flags, then a separate bit of code to deal with anything else left in $@) Now, inside the while loop, you just have a case statement so you can jump to the appropriate code for handling each different option. Hmmm... except you don't handle the bare argument case, nor do you do anything with the argument to the '-r' option -- you should copy the value of $OPTARG somewhere to save for later processing within that part of the case statement. Now, the enclosing while loop will process all of the command line options and as you (re)set the 'action' variable each time, only the last named of and -u, -g or -r options will be effective. That's reasonable given that the available options seem to be mutually exclusive. Maybe emitting a warning if you reset the action variable would be a good idea. One way of doing that is this construct: [ -z ${action} ] || echo "Warning -- action multiply specified" You can add that between lines 03 and 04. Finally, at line 19, you attempt to discard presumably all of the options from $@ that getopts has already processed. Unfortunately, $OPTION is (I think) a bash-ism, and not available with the getopts in FreeBSD sh(1). Instead, you should be looking at $OPTIND. Like so: shift $(($OPTIND - 1)) All in all, this is pretty much the normal shell code idiom for handling command line options. After running this, you should be left with $@ containing just those arguments /not/ preceded by option flags. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLZcAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzZ3QCeN3SnzJa70/ixOXWQxuz777WW 36MAmgPmPHZnrZw4BoqVZ13U+NopA5HX =Qoc7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:04:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F317106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1C48FC13 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4363800.home.otenet.gr [79.130.6.8]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o56A4orh028466; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:04:50 +0300 Message-ID: <4C0B72C2.9030800@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:04:50 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why so many errors with ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:04:53 -0000 On 06/06/2010 1:39 Ï€.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am coming from the linux world i was a gentoo user and i have install on > my second machine FBSD,i have made many formats but every time i try to > install a graphical enviroment (such as xfce,kde) many many errors come up. > i have heard that the ports are more stable than portage but with portage i > didn't have so many errors (actually i can't recall a time when portage > "died") > > am i doing sth wrong or ports comes up with many errors?? > > > P.S.: 1 week not i haven't manage to install a graphical enviroment > > > thanks in advance > I suggest you perform just the base system install from CD, and compile everything else from an updated ports tree. If you happen to install any packages from the DVD (and esp. since i.e. FreeBSD 8.0 has been out for some time now) you will experience problems - unless you run a portupgrade first (so that all shared libraries etc. get updated to the latest versions). This is not worthy it for a new install - just proceed with the base system install, do not install any packages (doc packages are ok though) and do not even install the ports collection. After the base system is installed, run portsnap fetch extract to get an up-to date ports tree (from then on, you can update this tree with portsnap fetch update) And then go on with installing everything you wish. I usually start with the smallest console based stuff (bash, zip, unzip, rar, unrar, sudo, screen, etc) and continue with x11/xorg and WM or DE of choice. I never had this fail. Have a look at the FreeBSD Handbook's chapter 4,5,6 as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:27:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082F8106566B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B1C8FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so2520436wwb.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:27:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=POqM3M5YPqmBKMPBbsOIAbOV77a/S6P5wvGEPqywR2U=; b=kLihOH48aKtq9Qn5zajxbPBJ971Gc174F2HYHwb3JAVJO6q9ktfFi/hAJi8YcJfyQ+ Hp+uIu/NOi3XzGpBhWAVNBjmzfRKyH9gDZXTFEl2pJXzorv1Q0Avaozxr/l4gI4tZBpy z0/sfQYBEHIBsXufiPiM+0qfPGH2dnIbI9Q9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EEu+KEeGhq4iSza6VKAwH/aE5cbAU1JqhW1u4TL8j1yYRYf3D9ajGgljeDftrWkrnq Hlwj6g2yV0EeUD6rq9bhJt67OZxQewB4aq7V9W34jcKnwp5ByHAjtrnnjtMOUcMQ5WhX V61tqQJeRCu+xnhoKYOHP66xDdwEV358QQuKg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.15 with SMTP id g15mr1261495wef.15.1275820039532; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 03:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:27:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:27:21 -0000 hello, i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i have. i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable version??? and what is going on with the mirrors? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:33:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86881065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2118FC1B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4363800.home.otenet.gr [79.130.6.8]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o56AWv6B012931; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:32:57 +0300 Message-ID: <4C0B7958.2080007@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:32:56 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: <4C0B72C2.9030800@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why so many errors with ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:33:00 -0000 On 06/06/2010 1:11 ?.?., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > i have FBSD 8.0 i have install the base system plus the bash shell > from the CD.after the installiation of the system i install ports with > portsnap and i update them with portmaster,no error came up,but now i > receive errors from xfce4. > > @*Alejandro Imass* > * > * > what do u mean when u say? > > "Tip: in FBSD the word stable has a completely > different meaning than in the LInux world ;-)" (adding the list to the recipients) Don't install bash from CD. Bash will also install gettext, and this was recently updated. Almost every single port has a dependency on gettext and you happen to have the old version installed with bash, while the ports you are trying to install will need the new version. Start with just the base system and install bash from ports as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:36:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B22106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A0E8FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4363800.home.otenet.gr [79.130.6.8]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o56AZxo7014695; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:36:00 +0300 Message-ID: <4C0B7A0F.4070304@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:35:59 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:36:01 -0000 On 06/06/2010 1:27 μ.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. > > i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i > have. > i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable > version??? > and what is going on with the mirrors? > Try uname -a You probably have 8.0-RELEASE, this is an officially released version suitable for servers and desktops alike. There is also 8-STABLE, this is a version in progress which is actually very stable and usable and may provide features missing from RELEASE (which you may need for some reason or other). Since you are a beginner, I suggest you stay with RELEASE for the time being. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:45:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA981065674 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE9B8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so96045vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.27.90 with SMTP id h26mr7440222qac.243.1275821157809; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g3sm11494648vcp.4.2010.06.06.03.45.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA9DFE5480A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:45:30 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606064530.1b761140@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/AmA3inNXnNs5UallKGkomXg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: NVIDIA driver fails with Xorg after 'gettext' update. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:45:59 -0000 --Sig_/AmA3inNXnNs5UallKGkomXg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD-8.0-STABLE / amd64 I just finished updating which included the 'gettext' bump. Now, I am experiencing a problem with the "nvidia-driver-195.36.15". None of the 'opengl' screen savers worked. Examining the Xorg log showed an error message that the nvidia opengl module was not loading. I therefore did an R&R on the port. I rebooted the system and then attempted to start KDE. I was greeted with this error message: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (No such file or directory ). (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): system's kernel log for additional error messages and (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): consult the NVIDIA README for details. (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information This is a snipped from the Xorg log: (=3D=3D) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (=3D=3D) framebuffer bpp 32 (=3D=3D) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (=3D=3D) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (=3D=3D) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration (II) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is (II) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): enabled. (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. P lease see the (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): system's kernel log for additional error mes sages and (EE) Jun 06 05:58:12 NVIDIA(0): consult the NVIDIA README for details. (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (II) UnloadModule: "wfb" (II) UnloadModule: "fb" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. . =46rom the /boot/loader.conf file: nvidia_load=3D"YES" # nVidia video driver I was wondering if anyone else had experienced a similar phenomena or had a suggestion on how to rectify this problem? --=20 Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ --Sig_/AmA3inNXnNs5UallKGkomXg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMC3xiAAoJEEEooh6m7retk0AIAKOaL8m2OFslbu7/Z0WWpMzK //N4oNw7CISXaFJ8B1mMIvC7rPF4G7ZMbc/oGjfZodUs0wV4Ec5YeHXA2qxDJJzr E8kTuHIcdtZNQHNtTHR3wHTYKgQ+HVAdfPMFY6XxxYosTbpmsZw9j21TYB8GlkE+ MkkJL3QuYdDXmXdhN5g2s5qyNwNQ0RtZQ+mB2tx5Le0kbF2zLkBro/xGCtMWct6S d4OADKaqNSBhXofs79Tn9m1K0T2qrQhnXAw+S5jV33XOhJ1PxT7tADcgHSDqrtan VwFmv65bBvGfq6iQkn5NQE9h88/NU/LOHLzf4o2lKijgB6biuE0ZRqyoXHN8ZEs= =Xzkw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/AmA3inNXnNs5UallKGkomXg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:49:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E326106566B; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wooh@wooh.hu) Received: from mail.netidea.hu (netwarehouse.netidea.hu [195.228.254.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E5A8FC0C; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from radon (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.netidea.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54492128EB8; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:49:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netidea.hu Received: from mail.netidea.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by radon (mail.netidea.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7wdMnPlgl7AA; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jamms-MacBook.local (catv-80-99-63-6.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.63.6]) by mail.netidea.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C75E128C9E; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C0B7D4B.4080402@wooh.hu> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:49:47 +0200 From: Adam PAPAI User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <4C09932B.6040808@wooh.hu> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: sysbench / fileio - Linux vs. FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:49:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6/5/10 2:43 AM, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > On 5 June 2010 00:58, Adam PAPAI wrote: > >> How can I tune my disk to make it faster? Is it possible? What is the >> reason of the really slow I/O with more than 4 threads? What do you >> recommend me to do? Why is it damn slow with 8K blocksize? > > Does linux still have async disk writes by default? Anyway, I looked after the default ext3 values: Debian mounts the ext3 with "defaults" option. This means: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async. Well it means I have to test it with UFS (async) and Debian (sync). These test will take some time but I hope it worth the effort. Hm... - -- Adam PAPAI -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMC31LAAoJEGq0EWvh5uiIu3MH/i7KWfcYj2zXSsqbUK2W4dKi B0+pD861FBtxmS+O4c4jzR5vJYeVVyVfZ4DLpHs0tqr6u2QZWgTD5c9GXxRNn9Hg pVIL8/iL9BGtjNZdbjKU2RlE+QOb4LUuxqTWtz3poH4e6CQlAMOzvBcmbK41eWVn nr2/jlS8n7TFk74ewAH9NXABrhIaOtCjBf5YWWA9AnKhqjdlAM7gxC6QcbsGTLlR 5zvq6UfGuAMECOV98FDlm3k20LydLT0/Mdw9jth9+50v1NMnAddYjfZ/7Ci2KzZo uUN1VRcOhxmw6oliMPu/+Z324d6Xrp1vXpDQN8tSzME1d3O3CswPDfs3ocpjmkU= =VEsH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:55:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB6C106567B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B0A8FC13 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.173.90]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 03:55:55 -0700 Message-ID: <4C0B7EB7.20603@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:55:51 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2010 10:55:56.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[D71CE7F0:01CB0566] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: installworld and sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:55:56 -0000 Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I understand that. The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is /usr/src also used in the installworld process? Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, so I just don't know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 10:59:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3F71065674 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EE48FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so75714eye.3 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:59:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B+3YWBK3vQl2TQh5Sq0WO/d8776kpbgr7Di11FcnzGQ=; b=wJ6VZ5qV8RPeDIBv+8fQ8q68ksjMxmD9Zs5waqEjydDclOfU7RtFGpGwgMBdIMO9hI QjXi54Wuswb+1/Ov3OvjEi63fpjKmUe9J8RfPqF1nqYZ0z6bWYbh7YiMCQmncaxWO0I5 GhsKrwP2NrJw+5CxtLpTiJgZjW1lRoAir2ppA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TfHKNgjw/9CkQ/4PSPRM/5GC2h7E6+NDlIer4rOmZXNM6F0wQozESJd1vYT9jewwn5 S2zCxAm8dEQ6rPYcP0Wj1sTkDd/aGBrC4dWVJPlEUgVSqYB5+JFdSOC8JOZiozND2cPI dVOifnql9KhRuynVtmeqDQ7zsJRWp0RCBGfNE= Received: by 10.213.27.145 with SMTP id i17mr196465ebc.35.1275821971542; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm1895237ewy.1.2010.06.06.03.59.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:59:28 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606115928.1613a155@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4C08B16A.4040406@a1poweruser.com> References: <4C08B16A.4040406@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portsnap refuse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:59:33 -0000 On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:55:22 +0800 Fbsd1 wrote: > The postsnap says adding refuse statements to select the parts of the > port tree you have use for will shorten the download process and > conserve disk space on your host. That only the port categories not > REFUSED will be selected and compressed for download. > > Well for a test I ran portsnap with out any portsnap.conf file. The > download process took 16 minuets. The I mv portsnap.conf.sample to > portsnap.conf and added REFUSE for all the categories except > sysutils. > > Reran the portsnap and still it took 16 minuets. I'm not sure what you are saying here, if you ran portsnap twice in succession then the second run shouldn't need any downloads. If you deleted portsnap's data in between then that's what I'd expect. portsnap can request updates to ports or files, but the initial download is a single large file which it can't customize. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:02:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41C1106566B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5508FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o56B2MWJ028009 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:02:22 +0300 Received: from MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr (mx-in-11.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.31]) by mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o56B2LsE017647 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:02:21 +0300 Received: from pluto.universe (62.1.183.129.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [62.1.183.129]) by MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o56B2KIC006041 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:02:21 +0300 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr header.from=eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral From: Elias Chrysocheris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:02:19 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.4.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4C0B7958.2080007@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4C0B7958.2080007@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006061402.19961.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> Subject: Re: why so many errors with ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:02:24 -0000 On Sunday 06 of June 2010 13:32:56 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 06/06/2010 1:11 ?.?., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > > i have FBSD 8.0 i have install the base system plus the bash shell > > from the CD.after the installiation of the system i install ports with > > portsnap and i update them with portmaster,no error came up,but now i > > receive errors from xfce4. > > > > @*Alejandro Imass* > > * > > * > > what do u mean when u say? > > > > "Tip: in FBSD the word stable has a completely > > different meaning than in the LInux world ;-)" > > (adding the list to the recipients) > Don't install bash from CD. Bash will also install gettext, and this was > recently updated. Almost every single port has a dependency on gettext > and you happen to have the old version installed with bash, while the > ports you are trying to install will need the new version. Start with > just the base system and install bash from ports as well. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I believe that you should follow the quick guide that Manolis Kiagias wrote. That is the guide I followed and everything went fine and smooth. Try it: ftp://ftp.freebsdgr.org/pub/freebsd/freebsd.zip This is an unofficial guide, but it works and gives you a step-by-step understanding of your new operating system and it is written in Greek. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:03:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2DA1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33C08FC1C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o56B3GI5080102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:03:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0B8074.8070004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:03:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, PLING_QUERY,SPF_FAIL,TO_NO_BRKTS_DIRECT autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:03:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 11:27:19, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. > > i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i > have. > i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable > version??? > and what is going on with the mirrors? Well, look at the output of 'uname -r' If it says '8.0-RELEASE' then you're running 8.0 release, straight from the install media. If it says '8.0-RELEASE-p3' then you're still running 8.0 release, but you've applied all of the currently available security patches. (Which you should do -- see freebsd-update(8) for one way of doing that, or use csup(1) to grab the latest RELENG_8_0 branch sources.) If it says '8.0-STABLE' or '8.1-PRERELEASE' then you're running 8.0 STABLE: in order to have this you would either have had to install a snapshot, or you would have had to use eg. csup(1) to grab sources from the RELENG_8 branch, and recompile the system. Note that the choices in FreeBSD are RELEASE, STABLE or CURRENT. There is no 'UNSTABLE' in the sense that many Linux distributions use it, nor does 'STABLE' mean the same thing. RELEASE are the release branches: these are suitable for production use, having been through various QA procedures and plenty of testing. RELEASE branches only get updates for *) Security patches *) Significant Bugs that would affect normal operation. STABLE is a development branch: it's called 'STABLE' because it is expected to run stably. STABLE generally receives continual fixes and updates, but these will previously have been tested in the bleeding edge CURRENT development branch. The exception to this is during the release process (as we are in at the moment), when this code branch is prepared for branching off the next RELEASE version, which will be 8.1-RELEASE. CURRENT is the bleeding edge of development. It usually works and can be compiled smoothly, but not always. People running this are expected to be capable of dealing with debugging, patching and rebuilding the system and to contribute to the FreeBSD development process. CURRENT's major version is always one more than the latest major release branch. Periodically, there will be a new .0 release version and everything bumps up one. The next update like that is 9.0-RELEASE scheduled for some time late this year. Note: the terms 'RELENG_8' or 'RELENG_8_0' relate to the branch names from CVS. They still apply, but CVS is nowadays automatically populated from Subversion, which is the project's principle version control system nowadays and where the equivalent terms are 'stable/8', 'releng/8.0' or 'release/8.0.0' You may see these mentioned on various mailing lists. Just some more confusing terminology. What problems are you seeing with the mirrors? Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLgHQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwSiACdEV7V0Rm0lXKo30IzcAX5VQHu vTIAn145J4FlNRgWGOBlzOWotN45/ML/ =ZbVV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:04:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C6B10656C1 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115B88FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so304505ewy.33 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=qoQXEdI4wTfx1KMVC1utGEt6iMp8f/rljmEAn3jYu9E=; b=hVzaFwSUXZHcSxITaGW6I3WMALgqR46FfJE1+/5IPSf42xy39MO++OnDERZETJXfrc XRrgEN76t9FRDmOR3TQzcPDxv+tlDFU56adOgOmOSdoYNc3cGEJ8ry4gOFzYaTMbjhSs 6tRUyCfrgXBaam1vk9fTk9CnqRlfHEj9Sotsk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=escJF3BLA8DpAIEnl+qd/3wWtpzqlP0cZjumzI59yuvTYP9PyEh2fhPWuRyAWpPOCK PUeRfXHufP28oatEOaroJHZQUby3ReOWKm+89BrUXfldMy59H0OLXD2mxYNjlk8J5XQs x9txO1IDBC42RAp6uDlEL5wr29mBS4I0DGDJQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.15.74 with SMTP id j10mr10171929eba.16.1275822296644; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: repcsike@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.108.69 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:04:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C0B7EB7.20603@a1poweruser.com> References: <4C0B7EB7.20603@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:04:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SziY1loRRaAD5hjeIbtkTAPsu9Y Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: installworld and sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:04:58 -0000 Hi! It's good practice to keep /usr/src (your source) intact and the same version as your world&kernel is and vica versa. For the particular installworld step AFAIK /usr/obj is used, where the system has the compiled world made in the build process. steps here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/makeworld.html however you should always read the actual UPDATING file if something change= s between versions! Regards, M.Bal=E1zs. On 6 June 2010 12:55, Fbsd1 wrote: > Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I > understand that. > > The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is > /usr/src also used in the installworld process? > > Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, so= I > just don't know. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:09:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AD71065677 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613CA8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so112288vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:09:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IRybh4PqlDCHQsqxb07M5bam+bq+aeIdJ4BbgQFhT4o=; b=UafWGf+b7q5g5RQggA/B3AsJmJL3JNxHZbpvH0u7sQMIZIDfg/S8a/f3hNyB0sWkfN 5I7NXaKQTFj5TbAZ4NjQ45JHCO2XdgdmVAPuH5ryOs3Gtn3Dt9vb2Grzl45j5c2GxUDp sDyHXGOAkRCfhDqOWnYgZXAlgqeEf5LHcd5Vg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=M/0wU1N85UkyVPNEolVGtKhiZwC8PC63XP5iAHd6v87I8To+EjlE9MGQSIMWgcNx3p XEhmJB6XcdJYrVAuqD/F5336D6oo5S0Vuc2b2+oxhRW2roZnVdLpftmyVqIhdpiQmXAq qP0yUfCXrGGmx8e96LJH8uEgDicBTf/RZoRDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.115.100 with SMTP id h36mr7267938qaq.30.1275822565166; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.99.67 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <63A8A75A-D0F6-4FC6-A1D6-784792B5BBB7@hughes.net> References: <9E15A9F3-F67E-4ECC-B1EC-99F65764F831@hughes.net> <63A8A75A-D0F6-4FC6-A1D6-784792B5BBB7@hughes.net> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:09:27 -0000 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris wrote: > >> Thanks for the response. > > That would be a great solution, I read that Apple doesn't permit > it to be installed on the XServe. That comes from an Apple article > in their support pages dated November 19, 2008. Firmware update > is required and none exists according to the note. I am researching > if that is still true but haven't turned anything up yet. > > EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as > an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. > There are instructions available on creating such an installation > for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't > the knowledge to create such an installation. > > Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. They use rEFIt for it. http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2duo I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work well. I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:09:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350781065675 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05D58FC1D for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o56B9iD4080160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:09:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0B81F8.3020206@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:09:44 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd1 References: <4C0B7EB7.20603@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C0B7EB7.20603@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: installworld and sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:09:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 11:55:51, Fbsd1 wrote: > Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I > understand that. Uh -- compiling a kernel requires /usr/src/sys. I think you can do without the rest of the system sources if all you want to do is build a kernel. OTOH, as you say: you do need all of /usr/src if you want to do a buildworld. > The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is > /usr/src also used in the installworld process? > > Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, > so I just don't know. Yes -- all of the Makefiles used to run your 'make installworld' are held under /usr/src. Amongst other things -- for instance, you'll need the contents of /usr/src/etc/ in order to run mergemaster(1). Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwLgfgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzaHwCcCB4Uri2gKKODCT2xH4nYg8RV uZAAnjt/TAbHC0c18TT+RsmRU/iPVfua =exb6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:12:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8DF106568B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8298FC1C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so1716126fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:12:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iivb0r2uaY4iBXRWX3FKFF76U7T0BagmOyAmcRtWfDw=; b=yHx5hQVvNKJyzzqbkczHCNSBH9oBhYuC27SUgqJ8qt42FePmbYwAtvCStKWzxC1E0O BK3NvNSNwGHRviEzw8OIw9yDVXe8XD9MOm+AcN+BB1r713XeQKLEYypHlzPsAtD5itSg avmyA+UhJtytKZMFQle1IDaQ9ON8mQ3UXA/Ac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qpt1y1aQLdUa3zEKmGwmPMxwaMrWyHjrFk8kZwZk/64ODaQ6iyEJl3FX8+i7Hae5Ol coEnzsuaeESithSReTnFJmnWldj3jYpN/+lZ4x5xY0r8gogCVr+vGybNQ4yoPG7nKTPx dC0tv9CkD+Az4cAai/X3++yv2ei1arpVxEmhk= Received: by 10.204.81.2 with SMTP id v2mr5668345bkk.94.1275822719093; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.54.211 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:11:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9E15A9F3-F67E-4ECC-B1EC-99F65764F831@hughes.net> <63A8A75A-D0F6-4FC6-A1D6-784792B5BBB7@hughes.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:11:29 +0100 Message-ID: To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chris , FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:12:02 -0000 On 6 June 2010 12:09, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris wrote: > >> >>> =A0Thanks for the response. >> >> That would be a great solution, I read that Apple doesn't permit >> it to be installed on the XServe. That comes from an Apple article >> in their support pages dated November 19, 2008. Firmware update >> is required and none exists according to the note. I am researching >> if that is still true but haven't turned anything up yet. >> >> EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as >> an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. >> There are instructions available on creating such an installation >> for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't >> the knowledge to create such an installation. >> >> > Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. =A0They use rEFIt fo= r it. > http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2du= o > > I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work well= . > I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. > > -- > Adam Vande More Pretty good idea actually, I tried it on my Macbook once and it worked pretty well. I suggest you try the CD version http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s1_install.html before committing to anything though! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:19:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EC51065679 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BA78FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:19:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.2, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_50 0.80) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: o56BJEM2032099 Received: from kobe.laptop (193.92.246.105.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [193.92.246.105]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1) with ESMTP id o56BJEM2032099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:19:25 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o56BJ91N021204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:19:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o56BJ8Vl021201; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Giorgos Tsiapaliokas's message of "Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:35:09 +0000") Message-ID: <87k4qc5ryr.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:19:32 -0000 On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:35:09 +0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but > i found out that there are also much more. > > can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) It isn't humanly possible to write *all* the differences of *all* the shells in a single email reply. But you can find a good table that compares various shells in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_command_shells In a FreeBSD context there are also a few more things to consider when comparing shells: * Is the shell part of the base system or a port/package? * Is the shell well maintained? * Does the shell depend on many other ports or none at all? * Does the shell support building static-only copies? This is useful if you want to upgrade the base system without breaking the login shell you are using every day. Having said that, here are a few personal notes from my own experience with shells on FreeBSD... The /bin/sh and /bin/csh shells are part of the base system, so they are rebuilt as part of the normal buildworld process. The big advantage of using a shell that is part of the base system is that it's always there. Any shell scripts or code you write that uses these shells will have a great chance of running on ANY FreeBSD system out there. That's where traditionalism stops and personal preference jumps in though... I don't like using csh(1) for a lot of things. It syntax makes me cringe, even though it's a mostly "ok" interactive shell. So I always install at least bash and mksh on my systems. There is no bash shell in the *base* system of FreeBSD. But there are many ports for command shells, and bash is part of these: # cd /usr/ports/shells 44bsd-csh dash jailkit pdksh tcshrc Makefile es ksh93 pear-PHP_Shell v7sh bash esh lshell psh viewglob bash-completion fd mksh rc vshnu bash-static fish nologinmsg rssh wapsh bash3 flash osh sash zoidberg bash3-static gscommander p5-Shell-Perl scponly zsh bashc heirloom-sh p5-Term-ShellUI shell-include ch ibsh pash tcsh_nls # You can always install bash with "pkg_add". The default package is not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash binary from its port: # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash # make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 install clean The bash shell depends on two other ports: gettext and libiconv. These are not large ports, but it is often a good idea to have a shell around that only depends on libc. This is why I also install 'shells/mksh' on my systems. It's the ksh compatible shell of the MirOS BSD folks. It has a small foot-print, a ksh-compatible syntax, and it depends only on libc.so: keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ ldd `which mksh` /usr/local/bin/mksh: libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280c9000) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:30:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758321065677 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E6A8FC1E for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A4611CC63; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:34:41 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <40CB37DD3E994EA1BBEB55E30E9398DD@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Matthew Seaman" , References: <4C0B8074.8070004@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C0B8074.8070004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:30:53 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:30:54 -0000 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Seaman" Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:03 PM To: Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) > STABLE is a development branch: it's called 'STABLE' because it is > expected to run stably. STABLE generally receives continual fixes=20 > and > updates, but these will previously have been tested in the bleeding=20 > edge Isn't STABLE called stable, because the featureset and kernel=20 interface is set, the term has nothing to do with stableness of the OS=20 itself. Running STABLE is equal to running beta, use at your own risk. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 11:44:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8163106566B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADBE8FC25 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o56BiD4M080418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:44:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0B8A0C.6040903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:44:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reko Turja References: <4C0B8074.8070004@infracaninophile.co.uk> <40CB37DD3E994EA1BBEB55E30E9398DD@rivendell> In-Reply-To: <40CB37DD3E994EA1BBEB55E30E9398DD@rivendell> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, PLING_QUERY,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:44:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2010 12:30:53, Reko Turja wrote: > From: "Matthew Seaman" >> STABLE is a development branch: it's called 'STABLE' because it is >> expected to run stably. STABLE generally receives continual fixes and >> updates, but these will previously have been tested in the bleeding edge > Isn't STABLE called stable, because the featureset and kernel interface > is set, the term has nothing to do with stableness of the OS itself. > Running STABLE is equal to running beta, use at your own risk. While that is true, the concept of ABI and kernel interface stability as currently implemented postdates the concept of the -STABLE branches. For instance, the ABI on the 4.x major branch didn't really stabilize until 4.3-RELEASE. There is certainly an expectation that -STABLE will run correctly even though it is a development branch. The project's record on maintaining that over the years is amazingly good considering. Still, that is as good an explanation as any I've seen for the name 'STABLE'. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:57:58 -0000 On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas articulated: > You can always install bash with "pkg_add". The default package is > not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash > binary from its port: > > # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash > # make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 install clean I thought that was what this port was for: Port: bash-static-4.1.5_2 Path: /usr/ports/shells/bash-static Info: The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 13:23:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E301065674 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF15A8FC22 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so2557403wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=v2LX/4fsNstS/ZCnNgX1nYHknsO4iQH/DSUP7yWvY+8=; b=m/0lUAQ6Ky99zloN+m4T0PDlYB1jug3PlbZiLZgvYtCGC257Z8Cj1PV3QaTePw9SWn xCejnbe+UKx9KW2n2bTEjrGxboEuFZ/MMvrtFWXU/70SuyDHiFI6e1hn+2K2OkCIUzBe 34TcVZwI/03NDzY4cqRHBotFyxp/Ij4N273ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=FmO6Md7vRKYW268KCNSqR+0MElesI+8lD2rULJn4p8Cpm48mMb7qZ7mZm9vEW86K/F kTUSZYpqtwLMEPHxoHMikxd+GCe2nLAnSmZFhWZkW0+3Y1UYMcuPkh/HdO6NBBz+uaIb rHD7tYpSX8EQSHyit329zqUwA4E1vuxkTB820= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.140 with SMTP id w12mr1339644wee.95.1275830620626; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.5 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:23:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Fbsd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld and sources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:23:42 -0000 >Compiling a new kernel from source requires /usr/src to be populated, I >understand that. > >The buildworld process for sure needs /usr/src. My question is , is >/usr/src also used in the installworld process? > >Now I have never had to do this type of system RELEASE upgrade before, >so I just don't know. If you don't mean "installworld" literally, but instead you mean installing pre-compiled binaries like those distributed on the FreeBSD installation disk images, or those intended for use with freebsd-update(8), then the answer is "no". But if you mean it literally -- you intend to run the "installworld" target -- then the answer is yes, of course. It is the makefiles in /usr/src, from /usr/src/Makefile on down, that are responsible for telling make(1) what to do during "installworld". Even after you are done installing, you may still wish to keep part or all of the system sources around, in case of emergencies (you need to rebuild/re-install part of the base system), or for reference, or for subsequent base system updates, or because /sys may be sym-linked to the headers in /usr/src/sys. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 13:38:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CB7106567A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0C58FC1E for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so2600034wwb.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rYXcABaPmpRPrRFQsbAkVBcw6fQXLQyAd6zfmHtx1a8=; b=dwtPAgQAE7MOstv0e5cKWKDV1jESJoJ3K+UQGP0Vpfo/xI7APPZCOqzcJEw1uetS38 bgfG78HT1kJJkCG2N216jxdwaihXMW1oKWX6MT2jEc2YJ3rs3KjCUaCSMIm+5XQ/Zn6w 565YjxbcBfxU/Ik25x225IQWHSSQ9gCE4RQ5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=j3I7VjK5xdhaIKUaCDTAz2i0RaT9wuMegHmZAslFmHWPCWQh2j2RtRzN4MARBg4GOr WCCCKJetGW+FSTkff6FSKSurD4e7FHBWCUDqoyEa0ck+URKuq2Ame9L0v2FJXHv5xo4B B12Brbm+TCbZ9ptM18KTggJjysaMwVAGOlk/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.196 with SMTP id a46mr1382082wef.36.1275831478864; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:37:58 +0000 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:38:00 -0000 hello, i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from 8.0-release to stable-8. can you tell me a way to do this? thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 13:39:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761E10656BE for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1658FC2B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o56Da3xO067465; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o56Da33X067464; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:36:03 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-ID: <20100606133603.GA67422@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd releases?!?!?!(confused) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:39:17 -0000 On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:27:19AM +0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i was using gentoo linux and i have install FBSD 8.0 in my second machine.. > > i have read the handbooks but i cannot understand which version of FBSD i > have. > i mean i know that i have 8.0 but i have the stable or the unstable > version??? FreeBSD uses the terms a little differently than Linux world. The most supported/stable/etc version for the public is 'RELEASE' That is generally what you want. STABLE is close to a RELEASE in that it is a snapshot of the most recent work, but not necessarily all prettied up with everything tested against it. It is the best (eg most stable) of the development tree Then there is CURRENT. IT is the 'bleeding edge' and not expected to be stable at all. It is essentially a snapshot of head. So, unless you are doing development of stuff to be committed to the tree or for some reason you need something that has been added to the tree, but not yet released, then use RELEASE. Otherwise take a chance with STABLE. STABLE is sort of a middle ground - not quite ready for release, but mostly reliably usable. The ports have generally not been proved against STABLE yet either, but have against RELEASE - though the ports move on at their own pace. ////jerry > and what is going on with the mirrors? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 14:36:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662CC106567E for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C308FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4363800.home.otenet.gr [79.130.6.8]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o56EaVTZ028342; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:36:31 +0300 Message-ID: <4C0BB26E.2050305@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:36:30 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:36:33 -0000 On 06/06/2010 4:37 μ.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from > 8.0-release to stable-8. > > can you tell me a way to do this? > > thanks in advance > Since you are just starting with this, I would advise against it. Unless you know STABLE contains something you really need (i.e. a must have driver or fix for your particular hardware), I would say stay on RELEASE until you are more comfortable with your system. Going from RELEASE to STABLE involves recompiling the system from source. It is not really difficult, but it will save you a lot of trouble if you first get better acquainted with your system. If you would like to try it anyway, here are the instructions: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/el/books/handbook/current-stable.html (starting from 24.5.2) Since you are experimenting and don't have any data on the system, you may also wish to directly install one of the snapshots that will get you directly to a STABLE system. You can find snapshot ISOs here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201005/ or you may even wish to try 8.1-BETA1 which is also available in local mirrors (like otenet): ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.1/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 14:40:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184141065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from extmail-01.people.net.au (extmail-01.people.net.au [202.154.123.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C658FC1B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16153 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2010 14:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.153.24) by extmail-01.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Jun 2010 14:40:38 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9877F1720C; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:40:37 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:40:37 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606144037.GA58851@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:40:41 -0000 On Sun 2010-06-06 13:37:58 UTC+0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas (terietor@gmail.com) wrote: > i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from > 8.0-release to stable-8. > > can you tell me a way to do this? My immediate thought was that if you can't work out how to update your system to FreeBSD-STABLE then you probably shouldn't be doing that. You should read the FreeBSD handbook then decide whether running STABLE is actually what you want to do. Particularly this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html Most FreeBSD users install FreeBSD-RELEASE then use the freebsd-update command to either patch it with security updates or upgrade to a newer version of RELEASE. As far as I know you can't use freebsd-update to upgrade to/from STABLE, only RELEASE. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 15:13:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52281065676 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCDC8FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so352104vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.51.17 with SMTP id b17mr7073627qag.175.1275837177387; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b22sm12075543vcp.8.2010.06.06.08.12.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 08:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88336E54809; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:12:46 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606111246.4bca28a4@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/llDZs1jLXcECPYFcONoD/R7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: danfe@FreeBSD.org Subject: Continuing problem with NVIDIA Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:13:01 -0000 --Sig_/llDZs1jLXcECPYFcONoD/R7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD-8.0 STABLE / amd64 After updating (gettext) the NVIDIA driver no longer worked in Xorg, nor was it being loaded at boot-up even thought it was in the /boot/loader.conf file and had worked correctly priviously. I am also unable to load it manually. kldload nvidia KLD nvidia.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch linker_load_file: Unsupported file type kldload: can't load nvidia: Exec format error kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 12 0xffffffff80100000 ddd800 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff81022000 399f linprocfs.ko 3 1 0xffffffff81026000 1c4e8 linux.ko "kldstat -v" doesn't reveal anything interesting either. I have removed and reinstalled the NVIDIA driver (nvidia-driver-195.36.15) twice without any success. This only started after updating 'gettext'. Everything else appears to be working correctly. --=20 Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ If any man wishes to be humbled and mortified, let him become president of Harvard. =0D Edward Holyoke --Sig_/llDZs1jLXcECPYFcONoD/R7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMC7r1AAoJEEEooh6m7retr/YH/3HsYgSrl1Z3pOws7Cjfc7lX /9mi0ZXztHAPn67ihQGv+OC4sEIhqmcaf6JQ5uCp/JOia03IoAuMwapOM++TN3Yu q2M+3rxqlbbakbtXPO0sKJ1KGkSSLgGEVvrwFhKXOByJ8RUz7lB2h5IlntaDWTR/ k7XrxRgRhzNcIDYyO6HQHpVaGiB6FmP9hwhnCLVs+MCYL5Y7jRty+nr6z71+NzNn uJLe0TMf6r7eLF7dCVyZ+ApcnUgNfdml6LRxSpS+Fuo9/hL/E/VQVAlifj+XiHt5 Cf51JlExjvCFK3vpqZpmhYQtLu57GtTutJpKqh6qOOt2La1iwlzkF55hbJBPKGk= =aKNu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/llDZs1jLXcECPYFcONoD/R7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 16:10:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE05B106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB648FC24 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1228544bwz.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:10:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OijmivnTpm8zsZcg4k24EnwuMch2sN2Z30r6OIS/pPs=; b=sR54Fh9bHaKe1WhcvCxXxsknlPepfHCxYKw9K1wy3f4C/5kumN5Zj2LXmm7O79DFy7 f/P55WvkKUHn/dETGh9BRhOAPYWDc7qyAwYyLUMYchSkjLgV9BglDuQh7fjAHisxCl1b qe/8Nj4N8HO4TvJD9WiNUyNl9k1lCtaHGJk5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ew2LFeFbge0TAqBWYzLJKRBSiJI4UOqjzpG+0XevU3dtIIBBkyXe1Z96+fb7QuCe9Y 7LX5gK86MkUqwj55wb/owPNJfN0Z0K+ewh2hksonkk77jDSWEEM/xQRnUr77hewRk/l4 fYa4RdBs2tFwHEoGHChbT0iJdI3DWKRNqILs8= Received: by 10.204.46.207 with SMTP id k15mr5918110bkf.106.1275840608096; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:10:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.54.211 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100606111246.4bca28a4@scorpio> References: <20100606111246.4bca28a4@scorpio> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:09:38 +0100 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: danfe@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Continuing problem with NVIDIA Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:10:10 -0000 On 6 June 2010 16:12, Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD-8.0 STABLE / amd64 > > After updating (gettext) the NVIDIA driver no longer worked in Xorg, nor > was it being loaded at boot-up even thought it was in > the /boot/loader.conf file and had worked correctly priviously. I am > also unable to load it manually. > > kldload nvidia > > KLD nvidia.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch > linker_load_file: Unsupported file type > kldload: can't load nvidia: Exec format error > > kldstat > > Id Refs Address =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Size =A0 =A0 Name > =A01 =A0 12 0xffffffff80100000 ddd800 =A0 kernel > =A02 =A0 =A01 0xffffffff81022000 399f =A0 =A0 linprocfs.ko > =A03 =A0 =A01 0xffffffff81026000 1c4e8 =A0 =A0linux.ko > > "kldstat -v" doesn't reveal anything interesting either. > > I have removed and reinstalled the NVIDIA driver > (nvidia-driver-195.36.15) twice without any success. > > This only started after updating 'gettext'. Everything else appears to > be working correctly. > > -- Have you *recompiled* nvidia-driver, or just reinstalled the package? Is it linking against the *current* kernel in /boot/kernel? Reboot, and portupgrade -f nvidia-driver Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 16:18:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37591106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB45A8FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E29D1E70E; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:18:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o56GINwx001571; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:18:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:18:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100606181823.5a1f110c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade from FBSD from 8.0-release to stable-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:18:27 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:37:58 +0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i have seach to net but i haven't find a way to update my system from > 8.0-release to stable-8. > > can you tell me a way to do this? Basically, this process contains two main steps: fetching the sources, and compiling and installing the system. Step 1 can easily be done by using csup (it's in the base) with the following configuration: This into /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup This into /etc/sup/stable.sup: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all You can of course select a mirror near your location. The tag= parameter selects what you will get, e. g. a certain specifig RELEASE, patches for a RELEASE, STABLE, or even CURRENT. The keyword RELENG_8 will give you 8-STABLE. If you've updated your sorces, read /usr/src/UPDATING, and for the steps how to start, refer to /usr/src/Makefile. You can also add compiling options to /etc/make.conf to be involved here; a typical setting could be setting CPUTYPE. Then you start. # cd /usr/src # make buildworld buildkernel # make installkernel Then reboot into single user mode: # reboot ... Ok boot -s ... When arrived in single user mode, check your partitions via fsck, and then mount them (mount -a). # cd /usr/src # mergemaster -p # make installworld # make delete-old # mergemaster # reboot When you now have reached multi user mode again, finally do # cd /usr/src # make delete-old-libs Check the result via # uname -a If you do have a custom kernel, add KERNCONF= to the make calls, e. g. # make buildkernel KERNCONF=FOOBAR or # make installkernel KERNCONF=FOOBAR respectively. Finally, see the excellent documentation in the FreeBSD Handbook. It should cover everything that hasn't been mentioned yet. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 16:32:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F35106567B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F9D08FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15221 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2010 16:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2010 16:31:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=BcWvld6wxEqIPmgGs/CvZlXEm/uafW0O8unto0m1Txlh76IdN9lf988gJZEWTSS5B13icuOXLn0eQYk8joPcScR75HI/pGDhRS7OswqTQGkJ+1wBB6bMzQJ5A6KPzSIu; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLIlS-00080g-Ke for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:31:59 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:31:37 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:31:36 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:32:00 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas > from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copylef= t. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? >=20 > man zsh to see that there are so many features they had to break up the > man pages. That's kind of scary. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwLzWgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXoJwCff259Czg+IB2aEATxAJLyoar+ g2MAoIKTtPD84vRsBRaYnum9kYq0q8Wh =HRkX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 16:38:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60463106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998ED8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so2651254wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:38:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UyTGE4ccQxh1DLU+YTGb218MYVM+ZCPQ1R6U9ouQ7S0=; b=ZL4FYUQuIbkHzPsCe/+BRCTbfPvAIS5ooNxU1U6ovsCYGnTV6t+CM4P61kNYc3VNBe wsePYpyUgqiXbbYCB+nNtFyDZWViku/zEegdMIjXJCvj9XsmS+1/qZVeTW5hRpdIvoG8 Btt9NUGMh/Q/tXy2kqANGnm1mZEvw8HV25TlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Yb/1vpK9InLDeyi+Z4TqddFtWX20NNdDU8ntUrOt+74J/mRSZQKgO9DYVSpvGxSUOO ho7TUTS6HPeZsYB4453881NeH5gR8n4NalQJg2Bk13mq15GhZWX6JjeOxxwZvWhLIqwX Dbqwy/sGl8LWix1ALpbKN8j7vtDg1d0ADOk8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.70 with SMTP id t48mr1502535wee.59.1275842309405; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:38:29 +0000 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: errors with kde4 and xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:38:31 -0000 hello, i am trying to compile xorg and kde 4 but i receive these 2 errors. i have updated the ports. the kde error ===> kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtTest.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtXml.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for pulse.0 in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libXtst ===> Returning to build of pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: execinfo - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: ck-connector.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for ck-connector.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: polkit-gobject-1.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for polkit-gobject-1.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir - found ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 ===> Installing for docbook-4.1_4 ===> docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip *** Error code 11 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. ===> kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtTest.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtXml.so - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for pulse.0 in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libXtst ===> Returning to build of pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: execinfo - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: ck-connector.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for ck-connector.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: polkit-gobject-1.0 - not found ===> Verifying install for polkit-gobject-1.0 in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir - found ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 ===> Installing for docbook-4.1_4 ===> docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip *** Error code 11 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. and the error from the xorg ===> Installing for xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc in /usr/ports/graphics/dri ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xbitmaps.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xbitmaps.pc in /usr/ports/x11/xbitmaps ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/X11/icons/handhelds/cursors/X_cursor - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/X11/icons/handhelds/cursors/X_cursor in /usr/ports/x11-themes/xcursor-themes ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/share/X11/doc/hardcopy/BDF/bdf.PS.gz - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/X11/doc/hardcopy/BDF/bdf.PS.gz in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-docs ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/apps - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/apps in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-apps ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/fonts - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/fonts in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/drivers - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/drivers in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers ===> Installing for xorg-drivers-7.5 ===> xorg-drivers-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse ===> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/randrproto.pc - found ===> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/inputproto.pc - found ===> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xorg-server.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xorg-server.pc in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86driproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86driproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/xf86driproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/glproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/randrproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/renderproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fixesproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/damageproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri2proto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xcmiscproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xextproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtrans.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86miscproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86miscproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/xf86miscproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86vidmodeproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86bigfontproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/scrnsaverproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/scrnsaverproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/scrnsaverproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/bigreqsproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/resourceproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/resourceproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/resourceproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fontsproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fontsproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/fontsproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/inputproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86dgaproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86dgaproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/xf86dgaproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/videoproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/compositeproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/trapproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/trapproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/trapproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/recordproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/recordproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/recordproto ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xineramaproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/evieproto.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/evieproto.pc in /usr/ports/x11/evieext ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc in /usr/ports/graphics/dri ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xdmcp.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbfile.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbfile.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libxkbfile ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86misc.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86misc.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libXxf86misc ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86vm.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xaw7.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xaw7.pc in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xmu.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xmu.pc in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xt.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libXpm ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xproto.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xinerama.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xfont.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xfont.pc in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/libXfont ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fontenc.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbui.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbui.pc in /usr/ports/x11/libxkbui ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pixman-1.pc - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc in /usr/ports/devel/libpciaccess ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc in /usr/ports/devel/libpciaccess ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on shared library: drm - found ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on shared library: hal.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for hal.1 in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on file: /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h in /usr/ports/multimedia/v4l_compat ===> Returning to build of hal-0.5.14_8 ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.6 - found ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - found ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on shared library: polkit.2 - not found ===> Verifying install for polkit.2 in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit ===> policykit-0.9_6 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 ===> Installing for docbook-4.1_4 ===> docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip *** Error code 11 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg. thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 16:50:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99A91065679 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eagletree@hughes.net) Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0031.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871AE8FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CB0955F0AB2 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:50:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Panda: scanned! X-Session-Marker: 6561676C6574726565406875676865732E6E6574 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 4916 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (dpc6682103093.direcpc.com [66.82.103.93]) (Authenticated sender: eagletree@hughes.net) by omf10.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: <85E4AD90-E5D0-47C1-AD7E-6F12F7C5B5E7@hughes.net> From: Chris To: FreeBSD-Questions Questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:50:20 -0700 References: <9E15A9F3-F67E-4ECC-B1EC-99F65764F831@hughes.net> <63A8A75A-D0F6-4FC6-A1D6-784792B5BBB7@hughes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:50:39 -0000 On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris wrote: > > EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as > an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. > There are instructions available on creating such an installation > for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't > the knowledge to create such an installation. > > > Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. They use rEFIt > for it. > http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2duo > > I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work > well. I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. > Adam and Chris, Thank you, you both are on the solution if it works. rEFIt at refit.sourceforge.net was one of the solutions that looked promising, only with FreeBSD. I will try this. Anyone interested, feel free to contact me off-list on progress or especially if interested in cooperative discovery on whether this will work or not. Thanks again for the responses. > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:00:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A70E1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76EA8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o56H005w011752 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:00:00 +0300 Received: from MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr (mx-in-11.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.31]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o56H00OB024861 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:00:00 +0300 Received: from pluto.universe (62.1.183.129.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [62.1.183.129]) by MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o56GxvcM022103 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:59:58 +0300 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-11.forthnet.gr header.from=eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr; sender-id=neutral From: Elias Chrysocheris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:59:55 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.3 (FreeBSD/8.0-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.4.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201006061959.56238.eliaschr@cha.forthnet.gr> Subject: Re: errors with kde4 and xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:00:03 -0000 On Sunday 06 of June 2010 19:38:29 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am trying to compile xorg and kde 4 but i receive these 2 errors. > > i have updated the ports. > > the kde error > > ===> kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in > /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - > found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - > found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so in > /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - > found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so > - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - > found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - > found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtTest.so > - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtXml.so - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - not found > ===> Verifying install for pulse.0 in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/libXtst > ===> Returning to build of pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract > - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: execinfo - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: ck-connector.0 - not > found > ===> Verifying install for ck-connector.0 in > /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: polkit-gobject-1.0 - > not found > ===> Verifying install for polkit-gobject-1.0 in > /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit > ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir > - found > ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog > in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 > ===> Installing for docbook-4.1_4 > ===> docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog > - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in > /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 > ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 > ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed > Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip > *** Error code 11 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. > ===> kde4-4.4.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdebugdialog in > /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssh.so - > found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - > found ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtOpenGL.so - found > ===> kdebase-runtime-4.4.4 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/qt4/libphonon.so in > /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtDBus.so - > found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so > - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - > found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/qmake-qt4 - > found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtTest.so > - found ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtXml.so - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automoc4 - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/cmake - found > ===> phonon-4.4.1 depends on shared library: pulse.0 - not found > ===> Verifying install for pulse.0 in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/libXtst > ===> Returning to build of pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract > - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: execinfo - found > ===> pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 depends on shared library: ck-connector.0 - not > found > ===> Verifying install for ck-connector.0 in > /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found > ===> consolekit-0.4.1_3 depends on shared library: polkit-gobject-1.0 - > not found > ===> Verifying install for polkit-gobject-1.0 in > /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit > ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: /usr/local/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir > - found > ===> polkit-0.96_2 depends on file: > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog > in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 > ===> Installing for docbook-4.1_4 > ===> docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog > - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in > /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 > ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 > ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed > Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip > *** Error code 11 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/polkit. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/consolekit. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/phonon. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4-runtime. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde4. > > > and the error from the xorg > > ===> Installing for xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc in > /usr/ports/graphics/dri > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xbitmaps.pc - > not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xbitmaps.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/xbitmaps > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/X11/icons/handhelds/cursors/X_cursor - not found > ===> Verifying install for > /usr/local/lib/X11/icons/handhelds/cursors/X_cursor in > /usr/ports/x11-themes/xcursor-themes > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: > /usr/local/share/X11/doc/hardcopy/BDF/bdf.PS.gz - not found > ===> Verifying install for > /usr/local/share/X11/doc/hardcopy/BDF/bdf.PS.gz in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-docs > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/apps - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/apps in > /usr/ports/x11/xorg-apps > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries in > /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/fonts - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/fonts in > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts > ===> Returning to build of xorg-7.5 > ===> xorg-7.5 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/xorg/drivers - not > found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/drivers in > /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers > ===> Installing for xorg-drivers-7.5 > ===> xorg-drivers-7.5 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so - not found > ===> Verifying install for > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so in > /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse > ===> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/randrproto.pc - found > ===> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/inputproto.pc - found > ===> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xorg-server.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xorg-server.pc > in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86driproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86driproto.pc > in /usr/ports/x11/xf86driproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/glproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/randrproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/renderproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fixesproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/damageproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri2proto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xcmiscproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xextproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtrans.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86miscproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86miscproto.pc > in /usr/ports/x11/xf86miscproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86vidmodeproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86bigfontproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/scrnsaverproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/scrnsaverproto.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/scrnsaverproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/bigreqsproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/resourceproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/resourceproto.pc > in /usr/ports/x11/resourceproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fontsproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fontsproto.pc in > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/fontsproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/inputproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86dgaproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xf86dgaproto.pc > in /usr/ports/x11/xf86dgaproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/videoproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/compositeproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/trapproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/trapproto.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/trapproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/recordproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/recordproto.pc > in /usr/ports/x11/recordproto > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xineramaproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/evieproto.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/evieproto.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/evieext > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/dri.pc in > /usr/ports/graphics/dri > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xdmcp.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbfile.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbfile.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/libxkbfile > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86misc.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86misc.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/libXxf86misc > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xxf86vm.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xaw7.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xaw7.pc in > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXaw > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xmu.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xmu.pc in > /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXmu > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xt.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/libXpm > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xproto.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xinerama.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xfont.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xfont.pc in > /usr/ports/x11-fonts/libXfont > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/fontenc.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbui.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xkbui.pc in > /usr/ports/x11/libxkbui > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pixman-1.pc - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc in > /usr/ports/devel/libpciaccess > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/pciaccess.pc in > /usr/ports/devel/libpciaccess > ===> Returning to build of xorg-server-1.7.5,1 > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - > found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on shared library: drm - found > ===> xorg-server-1.7.5,1 depends on shared library: hal.1 - not found > ===> Verifying install for hal.1 in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal > ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on file: /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h - > not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/include/linux/videodev2.h in > /usr/ports/multimedia/v4l_compat > ===> Returning to build of hal-0.5.14_8 > ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.6 - found > ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on package: libtool>=2.2 - found > ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - > found ===> hal-0.5.14_8 depends on shared library: polkit.2 - not found > ===> Verifying install for polkit.2 in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit > ===> policykit-0.9_6 depends on file: > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/4.1/dtd/catalog > in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410 > ===> Installing for docbook-4.1_4 > ===> docbook-4.1_4 depends on file: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog > - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog in > /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 > ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 > ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed > Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip > *** Error code 11 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docbook-410. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/policykit. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/sysutils/hal. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg. > > > thanks in advance > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" As I can see all the errors come from the missing "iso8879" port. Try: # cd /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 # make install clean If everything goes fine then try to recompile the ports in question (kde4 and xorg) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:13:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B271A1065676 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2DE8FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so2668957wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DrwwTGX6wUSgUaqVrsg7GAkrFaewDQIyE4sohBe+eQg=; b=QECA/d4+YArwKXR/vPDKYDgFKM1P/AUvXNWJBHxX5gkNFFblKZhmDG7TYMAdPULpET C6Qyx6WMu4Zy6p2PekNv8iZuc1sPRm+pLmvHGNR0pXKQ37v2sEMZ2nTRjpSOP2k6dLRg zh9fcHo3dFclSKzYDXHOFXm6t4hw3KSuPSGqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=P91SOxtKCsLi4aFtEmPT+4HDRNjsQ4B2EU26OYXtijw6+w7/7LQn2VoPOHXdcoInK4 Z3VFKGtxt8Q6YUMNy7eEhU+R8zm0VNbmkjPI67ZxUOtnPWz2N2A7eu8Hn9caBxUH/9mn IbGYzuSUqITMq3Bq5+TMd3aAH70t9+q86KwJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.137.134 with SMTP id w6mr12903082wbt.100.1275844390044; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.5 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:13:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors with kde4 and xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:13:11 -0000 >hello, > >i am trying to compile xorg and kde 4 but i receive these 2 errors. > >i have updated the ports. The errors are all coming from a failure to install the dependency textproc/iso8879. What is the output of 'make -C /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879 checksum' ? If it fails, try deleting the distfiles that are incomplete/corrupted, and fetching them again. If it works, but the installation still fails, try installing a package, rather than a port, for textproc/iso8879, and then continuing with your other port builds. textproc/iso8879 may be modified soon, because unqualified use of 'unzip' in the install target seems to be causing confusion between the new base system unzip and archivers/unzip, which may have consequences for the extraction of files, and is triggering warnings on tinderboxes. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:21:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3334106567A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADCE8FC1F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf28 with SMTP id 28so2673076wyf.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=L2HPQ8uptIj74x7yM2MBUl69X/FVstmT3mym8kN4xSE=; b=w50I8oDzXYubhD/CJV1vIE9jkmBQCZAY3fIRnhGLiAaYd3OVDIGEbmV2XK2DQZorzj O14by48/istm3jhWAnCWvTMhiAP9u6CnqUNYEBC1OS3KJqrduMqreJmopcdvTMq6MMmC nGEuwVrezNdoaormU4N89nPdAQNhvdIMcbdPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=esvGYObfTiefSU1cNjL+jKsheTiqgGkjMAhVf7SEuhBw1c6T1OXQvitWVnM7maO8SU t4uWGrYmWXYnLejDr8KizHtX/LX/zhh4hLB4ASu5XtmqBAexSAbUGjjsUX9VF0f9qLW5 070usyTjXVFTW06uXp6dWg4NKRWnpiVf2K+tY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.202 with SMTP id u52mr1543331wem.46.1275844872739; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.5 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:21:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:21:12 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors with kde4 and xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:21:17 -0000 On 6/6/10, b. f. wrote: ... > your other port builds. textproc/iso8879 may be modified soon, > because unqualified use of 'unzip' in the install target seems to be > causing confusion between the new base system unzip and > archivers/unzip, which may have consequences for the extraction of > files, and is triggering warnings on tinderboxes. In fact, it has been updated three times in succession in the past three days (including once in the past half-hour) to correct this and related problems. You can wait a little bit, and then update your ports tree, and this port should work. Or you can use a package, or grab the latest version of this port from http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/textproc/iso8879/iso8879.tar.gz?tarball=1 . b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:24:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DDF1065676 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2F28FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o56HNsQD031765; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:23:54 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:23:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20100606111246.4bca28a4@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100606111246.4bca28a4@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006061923.55470.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Continuing problem with NVIDIA Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:24:01 -0000 On Sunday 06 June 2010 17:12:46 Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD-8.0 STABLE / amd64 > > After updating (gettext) the NVIDIA driver no longer worked in Xorg, nor > was it being loaded at boot-up even thought it was in > the /boot/loader.conf file and had worked correctly priviously. I am > also unable to load it manually. > > kldload nvidia > > KLD nvidia.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch > linker_load_file: Unsupported file type > kldload: can't load nvidia: Exec format error > > kldstat > > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 12 0xffffffff80100000 ddd800 kernel > 2 1 0xffffffff81022000 399f linprocfs.ko > 3 1 0xffffffff81026000 1c4e8 linux.ko > > "kldstat -v" doesn't reveal anything interesting either. > > I have removed and reinstalled the NVIDIA driver > (nvidia-driver-195.36.15) twice without any success. > > This only started after updating 'gettext'. Everything else appears to > be working correctly. Are your kernel sources in sync with the kernel you're running? Did you rebuild the driver? (i.e. make deinstall clean && make reinstall clean) You need to have the exact version of the sources you used to build the kernel. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:24:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19C4106567C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787C38FC26 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1246277bwz.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A2Jna0iG7cAQ5HE2gVuOstGSSsD9VL/1BQAc/AHBQU4=; b=uuObalXdntzT0S4ulaZT9FreRNU9LQvDs/TishZ8HwuZi6SWX8H8yHz5lLwF0AJ4LX 1P3/utRa6Xsp406tSbCEnxCzUyse4kama8EpOZHcIAy1yIh05sLHHvIDhSL6H+fUJvqQ irMDXqAffGXsLv2oZUVLF5bQcEhvQA6YgDDhM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZFoxb+4b41+XLRvY6NDbnOK/ny1wRvFztPCuL6PjuUaBx8nk/Xo5JbLaJK2UWHfDli U0AmojjqysCbUY5+HR7wpaRXFWUWuB5DQ48/yS09F9yxP3SaIHrX5tNEwX3uZyG7ueZI Wib7dTcwbH6L93BUhEmia8k+hJEzURnhzivPA= Received: by 10.204.138.91 with SMTP id z27mr5823505bkt.162.1275845053162; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.54.211 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:23:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85E4AD90-E5D0-47C1-AD7E-6F12F7C5B5E7@hughes.net> References: <9E15A9F3-F67E-4ECC-B1EC-99F65764F831@hughes.net> <63A8A75A-D0F6-4FC6-A1D6-784792B5BBB7@hughes.net> <85E4AD90-E5D0-47C1-AD7E-6F12F7C5B5E7@hughes.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:23:43 +0100 Message-ID: To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Booting Xserve on 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:24:16 -0000 On 6 June 2010 17:50, Chris wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Chris wrote: >> >> EFI is the issue. I was hoping there is new information such as >> an installation with EFI configuration files to permit the boot. >> There are instructions available on creating such an installation >> for linux variants. They don't seem to apply to FreeBSD or I haven't >> the knowledge to create such an installation. >> >> >> Well if you want to run BSD on it, I suggest NetBSD. =A0They use rEFIt f= or >> it. >> http://wiki.netbsd.se/How_to_install_NetBSD_on_an_Apple_Macbook_w/core2d= uo >> >> I would say there is even some reasonable hope it that it would work wel= l. >> =A0I'm no expert thought so you could try asking over there. >> > > Adam and Chris, Thank you, you both are on the solution if it works. > > rEFIt at refit.sourceforge.net was one of the solutions that looked > promising, only with FreeBSD. I will try this. > > Anyone interested, feel free to contact me off-list on progress or > especially > if interested in cooperative discovery on whether this will work or not. > > Thanks again for the responses. I would recommend keeping discussion on-list, if you don't mind, because the Archives are incredibly useful to people trying to solve similar problems. We all learn from watching discussions on these lists, that's why we're subscribed! Of course, if you consider it confidential feel free to go off-list, it's your call. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:31:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3679C1065675 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bogdan@pvp.ro) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32818FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so515465vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:31:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.32.163 with SMTP id c35mr8160381qad.184.1275845460401; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.3 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [86.122.161.162] Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:31:00 +0300 Message-ID: From: Bogdan Webb To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 8.0 linux emulator kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:31:03 -0000 I'm having issues with the Fedora Core6 linux emulator on FreeBSD 8.0 it panics when i run HLDS, the same issue was addressed by Daniel Ballenger in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-February/054646.htmlbut i did not get the fix. Giovanni Trematerra gave a response that it was fix in a "r200768" now it is clear that i do not know that that code means (in my eyes it's a bsd build or smth) but i'm currently running the latest 8.0-RELEASE-p3 available. Please advise on how to patch the kernel panic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 17:50:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78711065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F30D8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLJsc-0007Jf-IM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:43:27 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:50:43 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:50:43 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:50:51 -0000 On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas > > from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. > > Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? > Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- then I jump to Ruby. > > > > > man zsh to see that there are so many features they had to break up the > > man pages. > > That's kind of scary. True, and it shows in its initial virtual size: sterling 62630 0.0 0.0 8264 1804 0 I 10:42AM 0:00.00 sh sterling 62733 0.0 0.1 10284 2932 0 I 10:42AM 0:00.01 csh sterling 62791 0.0 0.1 10284 2848 0 I 10:43AM 0:00.01 tcsh sterling 70731 0.0 0.1 14580 4324 0 I 10:46AM 0:00.05 zsh sterling 71773 0.0 0.1 10220 2908 0 I+ 10:46AM 0:00.01 bash But on a laptop with 4GB, I don't miss it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 18:13:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746011065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331358FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so2467118gyh.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:13:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:from:importance :x-priority:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=meH+vldKlGAFOAEzd4DM555eigZPB3ICq+7pZH1cFlc=; b=B+9HKNnHTnHyDj85XmlIrjWccbKDfyMsBYzpP7KTgOn1FDPEWAnRRd0uBB5EqFvMXG lFTIfgTDuF/On6bIRt9zN8j+a+5ck5aZutad63/aTlQGXH7jYRSJRZFnMOqUE084klrB YHaylXpA4WZATbc+/vvJujAVFOjfkmIBJhE/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:importance:x-priority:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Q4r9mdF+XVF2vCbAyaSpcrEztnAom0gBHa1IJANwABEKI/x9F75raxDNdRkXt/Q+jN 9GIhJke1edVGQlzJcvKCNjKEJt4ChPn78wfrqZpq6Axc1nNY8R06YUOesbDOTa2/mWLo Pe5esws/Zt7Buqi4j8WHsCYZyb6x3n+ncsSbQ= Received: by 10.150.170.11 with SMTP id s11mr13010896ybe.390.1275846254169; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:44:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: peter harrison Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:44:10 +0100 Message-ID: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:13:08 -0000 Hello all, I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. Anyone willing to make a recommendation? Thanks in advance, Peter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 18:22:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5B01065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 489FB8FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15378 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2010 18:22:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2010 18:22:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JC8RSxkrCzQPSQBTPGEHfkSoXQzjZ6hJYfu0B608VhPyOFRtufVffIlW/JgRp/TUTE0RJXGwQ8mA8s9x+lzaCIfX13anfi0vJniqAnbDZwmwjYO7OeoPQbCd1Qaw0OO2; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLKU6-00014h-IH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:22:11 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:21:48 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:21:48 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:22:12 -0000 --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > >=20 > > > I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good i= deas > > > from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than cop= yleft. > >=20 > > Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? >=20 > Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too comple= x -- > then I jump to Ruby. I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell. What zsh features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what I've been using)? I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwL5zwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKULUwCgsHqyyi7lA8YkDqgOv1alnzIW i3kAn21XTbJt1pDpgrgew30mxAzIqu+O =PWSy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 18:33:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CD1106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4D88FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLKXY-0003yY-Dj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:25:45 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:32:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:32:58 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606183258.GC46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:33:07 -0000 On Jun 06 2010 12:21, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > > > > I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas > > > > from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. > > > > > > Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? > > > > Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- > > then I jump to Ruby. > > I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell. What zsh > features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what I've been using)? > > I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better. > I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 18:58:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF611065674 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B4C8FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so612783vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:58:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.17.196 with SMTP id t4mr7696721qaa.254.1275850680930; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.88.12 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> References: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:58:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wbiXIu-4b8v2GW-ZxvApUdUxcd4 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:58:02 -0000 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. If you are using Perl, might as well use any of the http servers already implemented in Perl, for example: HTTP::Server::Simple, and of course it's integrated with Perl CGI Best, Alejandro Imass > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 20:03:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C290E1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FEB8FC1A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:03:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=xm0otvE9/LjRWYlyDrHfx7zP0/MGCmNk7gQgTP1ehto= c=1 sm=0 a=ipU4KYbqMnUA:10 a=hO-oPbc3tlwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=64iin7ZDX+lUS8OB6KzQoA==:17 a=8qv3a8-5CBNdxOsN9VwA:9 a=MJ4YC6ugML_nCPNRNP51OkBVHmgA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=64iin7ZDX+lUS8OB6KzQoA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.150.184.250 Received: from [98.150.184.250] ([98.150.184.250:26823] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 38/B3-01419-81FFB0C4; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:03:37 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806375C91 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:06:29 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o56K6TpX008802 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:06:29 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:06:28 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100606200628.GA8748@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:03:38 -0000 in message <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra>, wrote Chad Perrin thusly... ... > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > > > > I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of > > > > the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be > > > > copyfree rather than copyleft. ... > I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell. > What zsh features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what > I've been using)? > > I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better. I cannot say about the tcsh features. I switched from bash to zsh mainly for excellent vi-mode editing support, more so over multiple lines. ksh & bash were horrible in that respect. Recently I have found that regular expression like [a-d] (instead of {a,b,c,d}) in file name generation work as expected. zsh has more ways to help file name generation which I have not looked into yet. And of course, as stated earlier, compatibility between a bourne shell script & an interactive shell helps immensely while developing|debugging a script. - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 20:34:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7DD1065675 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DDD8FC23 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLMQu-0001Ng-BE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:27:01 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:34:23 -0000 This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 20:38:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36248106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAB18FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003881E2A1; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:38:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o56KcQ00002315; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:38:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:38:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chip Camden Message-Id: <20100606223826.62a42f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:38:30 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap > me over to the right one. > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > spreadsheet. There are office conglomerates both for KDE and Gnome, KOffice and GOffice. If you already have either of them installed, you may try this. An acceptable stand-alone word processor is Abiword. > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports > complex formulas and charting? Gnumeric. > If it could also be used without X11 when > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 20:43:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C491065678 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2B48FC1C for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn5 with SMTP id 5so3380084iwn.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.125.223 with SMTP id z31mr16368022ibr.78.1275856995191; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:43:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.201 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:42:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> References: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:42:55 +0300 Message-ID: To: peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:43:16 -0000 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:44 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? > lighttpd is a decent lightweight web server % pwd /usr/ports/www/lighttpd % make all-depends-list /usr/ports/devel/libtool22 /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config /usr/ports/devel/pcre /usr/ports/www/spawn-fcgi /usr/ports/devel/gmake -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 20:53:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC06710656C3 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexbestms@uni-muenster.de) Received: from SECMAIL.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (SECMAIL.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8234A8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by SECMAIL.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775F8BF408 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:53:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so734207vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.248.129 with SMTP id mg1mr2831632qcb.137.1275857632932; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.247.142 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:53:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: Alexander Best To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:53:57 -0000 personally i use editors/ted for word processing. it's simple and efficient. if you decide to try it out be sure to comment out the openmotif stuff in the makefile so it gets linked to gtk2. cheers. alex -- Alexander Best From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:00:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5748106567F for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6553D8FC1A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so2518467gyh.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9ddbs9BXiEbZzQ4po7vsHtcQtyRrsvTMnkkODUzPQbs=; b=uE2oDbDxhJTcO8kJ0S/CDiWXpA7zpB8ndYXlAkF2YmQ3E6llM5lUDn7inzTSr1I11W myvnyO8WVHW+fDtrXv22iJru7mXVXlFpE/7PaWhw5Ov2W8H0zJJLe2LU/p0J0zLvmPm6 ZKHnT+/xh4c8+mnyhG7TqDLS1/BdxjAY8z8Qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=DAZtWeGp+t4seywOzAu2bl3G1vfkf3YjKJFBjle4pv5LzVtxzVimHKr98GvcRBdTXo kW+g3ZA6ZKhaG3wBPqqfCXjV2/VmZaj8uu1DOJGCeePGeDKnmLrkLCUYL+Klh9wxqzA7 iNaBN0ji/GSkfz56vox2Yoy7ZNMP2n5EYWKCs= Received: by 10.150.213.15 with SMTP id l15mr13760513ybg.202.1275858043602; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: peter harrison Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:00:43 -0700 Message-ID: <980155049208487612@unknownmsgid> To: Alejandro Imass , peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:00:44 -0000 Sorry for top posting (damn windows phone). I never thought of using Perl directly, I'll look at that, thanks for the suggestion. Peter. -----Original Message----- From: Alejandro Imass Sent: 06 June 2010 19:58 To: peter harrison Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. If you are using Perl, might as well use any of the http servers already implemented in Perl, for example: HTTP::Server::Simple, and of course it's integrated with Perl CGI Best, Alejandro Imass > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:03:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29AB1065676 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6408FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o56L3C1Z025864; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A62FCBA9E; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100606210311.GA20105@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606223826.62a42f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606223826.62a42f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Chip Camden , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:03:17 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:38:26PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap > > me over to the right one. > >=20 > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > > spreadsheet. Indeed. =20 > There are office conglomerates both for KDE and Gnome, KOffice and > GOffice. If you already have either of them installed, you may try > this. >=20 > An acceptable stand-alone word processor is Abiword. =20 Don't forget LaTeX! Especially since it is quite easy for scripting languag= es to generate LaTeX code (automation). > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supp= orts > > complex formulas and charting?=20 >=20 > Gnumeric. Second that. Especially for quick & dirty jobs. > > If it could also be used without X11 when > > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. >=20 > CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) For real data munching, programming languages do a much better job indeed. = May I also suggest Perl, Lua and Python al alternatives to C and awk? And 'make' to tie everything together. Unless your machine is severely underpowered or your datasets are _huge_, scripting languages tend to be fast enough for da= ta processing, IMHO. The general weakness of office suites is _automation_, something that progr= ams following the UNIX philosophy excel at. (pardon the pun). Quoting Doug McIl= roy: This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text st= reams, because that is a universal interface. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwMDQ8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWc3QCcCWamMtTkPdH6JQr5EdUbwyag YAsAn1BSumeyfqBeNXQY1259Rz8gSxtJ =IDiS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:03:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9966D1065670 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B438FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxg6 with SMTP id 6so792993yxg.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qxnG69kHa5y93KPiXGgRuELh7yvWe7qPT2ASB8K6XKA=; b=D9q7BGeXJaPK6A4jNTjJ+6ZRQ9Y3buWOBDF7X+oFq0aEdpu4/w1b6tK/Crgf+CCNz/ 3LzvAqZHwFGRnPC0Ko5O/ab0O+s5dVmZXBqUWo98Nq+fV2IBiR4lSOofXQp/7RQrzSjN +4VAqiMRSb0zYvu9AzlV3Bs7e+7eCos4ey9jI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=hMmRV/Xby1pJr2aVdos263q6Hw6LNSW6QOXuT1frtJgXTbmPB0gfY96TMHjj5Lz/Br OXSl5HKVQCqt58kstE5ZrakxqD0C0Dy4hpoBjlfziDiWG8LdrBstqMz0w20EpovRd9uJ MYU31wv4+KMMzvw3vzrejzJLNuhC+FYOWZ9Ss= Received: by 10.150.48.31 with SMTP id v31mr13072870ybv.289.1275858199314; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: peter harrison Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:03:19 -0700 Message-ID: <7396291019611849402@unknownmsgid> To: Eitan Adler , peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:03:20 -0000 Sorry for top posting (cheapo windows phone). Will it run cgi? Thanks for the suggestion. Peter. -----Original Message----- From: Eitan Adler Sent: 06 June 2010 21:42 To: peter harrison Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:44 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? > lighttpd is a decent lightweight web server % pwd /usr/ports/www/lighttpd % make all-depends-list /usr/ports/devel/libtool22 /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config /usr/ports/devel/pcre /usr/ports/www/spawn-fcgi /usr/ports/devel/gmake -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:06:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1078106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zenzee@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6E88FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (a80-101-53-60.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.53.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o56L6KZx039749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:06:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zenzee@xs4all.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Vincent Zee In-Reply-To: <4C02CA22.9090006@laverenz.de> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:06:14 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <96498E4F-E95D-4D03-A2FA-37DA77A8248C@xs4all.nl> References: <20100530184630.GA36727@xs4all.nl> <4C02CA22.9090006@laverenz.de> To: Uwe Laverenz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: upgrading squeezeboxserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:06:23 -0000 Hi Uwe, thanks for the quick reply. -- Vincent On 30 May 2010, at 22:27, Uwe Laverenz wrote: > Am 30.05.2010 20:46, schrieb Vincent Zee: >=20 >> I recently upgraded to the newest version of audio/squeezeboxserver. >> After the update the server is unable to rescan my music collection. >>=20 >> Does anyone else encountered this problem? >=20 > Yes, same problem here. I tried different versions of perl (5.8 and = 5.10 both with or without threading) and gave up after several = reinstalls due to lack of time. >=20 >> How can I revert to the previous version of squeezeboxserver >> (I'm using Portmaster to upgrade my ports)? >=20 > There's a tool for this in ports-mgmt/portdowngrade. >=20 > cu, > Uwe > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:07:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358CC106566B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zenzee@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A818FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.21] (a80-101-53-60.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.53.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o56L6Ka0039749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:07:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zenzee@xs4all.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Vincent Zee In-Reply-To: <19458.57734.673706.223377@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:07:15 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <50BCC4F9-DE23-46B9-98C1-651CC5D506D2@xs4all.nl> References: <20100530184630.GA36727@xs4all.nl> <19458.57734.673706.223377@gargle.gargle.HOWL> To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: upgrading squeezeboxserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:07:19 -0000 Hi George, thank you for your answer, will try out your solution. -- Vincent On 31 May 2010, at 0:07, George Hartzell wrote: > Vincent Zee writes: >> Hi, >>=20 >> I recently upgraded to the newest version of audio/squeezeboxserver. >> After the update the server is unable to rescan my music collection. >>=20 >> Does anyone else encountered this problem? >> How can I revert to the previous version of squeezeboxserver >> (I'm using Portmaster to upgrade my ports)? >>=20 >=20 > I had this problem and managed to work around it. >=20 > I haven't had time to track it down enough to file a bug though. >=20 > My fix was to downgrade p5-DBIx-Class to version 08120. >=20 > There's probably a proper way to do this thing, but what I ended up > doing was downgrading the port's distinfo file, replacing its contents > with the following three lines: >=20 > MD5 (DBIx-Class-0.08120.tar.gz) =3D ebed5ed315618e783ac048767aed90a5 > SHA256 (DBIx-Class-0.08120.tar.gz) =3D = c97af692cbbf9779457e669b52d117b3b174aac3826d4af20da7f26e5aabe479 > SIZE (DBIx-Class-0.08120.tar.gz) =3D 513806 >=20 > grabbed from r47 found here: >=20 > = http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/databases/p5-DBIx-Class/distin= fo?sortby=3Drev >=20 > and changing the PORTVERSION in the Makefile to 0.08120. >=20 > Then did a make, a make deinstall and a make install. >=20 > There was probably a make makesum in there too. >=20 > Let me know if you need more details suggestions. >=20 > g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:22:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425271065672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0187A8FC1B for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F06D1E473; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o56LMEDf002538; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:22:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Roland Smith Message-Id: <20100606232214.4146453e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100606210311.GA20105@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606223826.62a42f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100606210311.GA20105@slackbox.erewhon.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:22:16 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:11 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > Don't forget LaTeX! Especially since it is quite easy for scripting languages > to generate LaTeX code (automation). Oh, but *I* didn't forget LaTeX. The OP requested a word processor, not a typesetting system (which is the next evolutionary step). :-) But you are right: LaTeX is excellent because it does all the things right that word processors do get right after you invested several hours configuring them, or don't get it right at all. In this relation, LyX should also be mentioned, a kind of "WYSIWYG" interface to LaTeX (inaccurately spoken). > > > If it could also be used without X11 when > > > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > > > > CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) > > For real data munching, programming languages do a much better job indeed. Especially if efficiency is a topic ("number crunching"), nothing beats native binary code. > May > I also suggest Perl, Lua and Python al alternatives to C and awk? Especially Perl is worth mentioning. > And 'make' > to tie everything together. Totally agreed; I also (ab)use it for controlling tasks (like making web pages out of statistical data). > Unless your machine is severely underpowered or > your datasets are _huge_, scripting languages tend to be fast enough for data > processing, IMHO. And of course a bit more comfortable to use. > The general weakness of office suites is _automation_, something that programs > following the UNIX philosophy excel at. (pardon the pun). Quoting Doug McIlroy: > > This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it > well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, > because that is a universal interface. A nice summary. And true. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 23:38:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D8C1065674 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAC98FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o56NbqEZ013408; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:37:52 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:37:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006070137.48664.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Bogdan Webb Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.0 linux emulator kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:38:17 -0000 On Sunday 06 June 2010 19:31:00 Bogdan Webb wrote: > I'm having issues with the Fedora Core6 linux emulator on FreeBSD 8.0 it > panics when i run HLDS, the same issue was addressed by Daniel Ballenger in > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-February/054646.html >but i did not get the fix. Giovanni Trematerra gave a response that it was > fix in a "r200768" now it is clear that i do not know that that code means > (in my eyes it's a bsd build or smth) but i'm currently running the latest > 8.0-RELEASE-p3 available. Please advise on how to patch the kernel panic. r200768 uniquely identifies a single change to the FreeBSD source code. In this case it identifies a bugfix to linux_signal.c. You need to run 8-STABLE (currently it will show up as 8.1-PRERELEASE) to get the fix. I know it works because I also run multiple HLDS processes on FreeBSD. To get 8-STABLE: cvsup/csup the sources to RELENG_8, then follow these instructions to upgrade: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Good luck! -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 23:56:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F393106564A for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A29818FC19 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5697 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2010 23:56:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=D3QmlYmirVlNVNzDCcCyA1NtexABnBsqpMS2/kwkNLSyowkfzZnTuKd3FCJQDRI+sXzMLNk8ESSmAmD2cvJ8H4peEArD4m5cHVyjMRUiDVNUnyfuhLo6GkvaxvX4GZlQeboTc0qH/MMISWDC9XWPqXK6KroJPwjMVhBtaF7hAO8= ; Received: from napoleon.localnet (mike.jeays@99.224.61.141 with plain) by smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jun 2010 16:56:09 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- X-YMail-OSG: tLUlZdEVM1ndjPpDWcAQOCD5wXRjSjMDQ.yGFRx6xocPAleErjXp_X2ubj5WD3mn4z6ABhZk_skPKTBeTBRYPSPpDEMkN_75wR.GPlP2v5BWaZJJa2eD7BkSuK7DNbKnwbkndDTq65Hh7Mvg3SO2BL0qWOSEfefFwWbnmeLm1ZK_9dYWakST._fiLbsCZVEsgwx81dcjIo_PwzPewvh3Fr6ziXJMbIrNgz_vVm6h3ULvN4m9kzMa0XgN1.0IYWS1CaQtKnrY.P74DfyaxOIXn3uzhutDm9pxWxHv5FKy8RcxAbIhEgyIf7DAjFgp0i26_Qg4wP8IIj2.1Jv4bFrP4OBdzLnB9oYmHNnOlvmd_wfJ22q5tUgMAtuvGCj.2r_epGJz X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Mike Jeays To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:56:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (Linux/2.6.28-15-generic; KDE/4.2.2; i686; ; ) References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201006061956.07918.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:56:11 -0000 On June 6, 2010 04:34:16 pm Chip Camden wrote: > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap > me over to the right one. > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > spreadsheet. > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports > complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It supports charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a Linux system, seems much "lighter" than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much more quickly than Calc. "pkg_add -r gnumeric" should install it for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 00:32:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2311065673 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from detachedd@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96648FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT101-W64 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s1.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:20:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [200.102.190.37] From: =?iso-8859-1?B?TeFyY2lvIEMuRy4=?= To: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:20:08 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2010 00:20:09.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[306935A0:01CB05D7] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:32:11 -0000 As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D10570) says=2C J= AVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port=2C but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within = firefox 3.6? Thanks in advance=2C Marcio C. Goulart =20 _________________________________________________________________ QUER FICAR SEMPRE EM CONTATO COM SEUS AMIGOS? ACESSE O MESSENGER PELO SEU C= ELULAR. http://celular.windowslive.com.br/messenger.asp?produto=3DMessenger&utm_sou= rce=3DLive_Hotmail&utm_medium=3DTagline&utm_content=3DQUERFICARS82&utm_camp= aign=3DMobileServices= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 03:05:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665221065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9BF8FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so1145127vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:05:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.185.12 with SMTP id cm12mr1853089qcb.215.1275879918205; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.88.12 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:05:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <980155049208487612@unknownmsgid> References: <980155049208487612@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:05:18 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZymqOIcu5csSuki3JhjhM4mcrhA Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:05:19 -0000 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Sorry for top posting (damn windows phone). I never thought of using > Perl directly, I'll look at that, thanks for the suggestion. > Jajajaja. Windows Mobile sucks big time. Switch to an Android device and support Perldroid ;-) !!! Alex > Peter. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alejandro Imass > Sent: 06 June 2010 19:58 > To: peter harrison > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations > > > On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, peter harrison > wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably >> with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. > > If you are using Perl, might as well use any of the http servers > already implemented in Perl, for example: > HTTP::Server::Simple, and of course it's integrated with Perl CGI > > Best, > Alejandro Imass > >> Anyone willing to make a recommendation? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Peter. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 03:25:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13407106564A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1CE8FC16 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so1168850vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.105.162 with SMTP id t34mr7941686qao.20.1275881154643; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.88.12 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:25:54 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: J4QcKEwGHpX2GgItbT0Tjoi0dp4 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:25:56 -0000 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Chip Camden w= rote: > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap > me over to the right one. > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > OOo is such a pig. =A0It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > spreadsheet. > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that suppor= ts > complex formulas and charting? =A0If it could also be used without X11 wh= en > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > Use Abiword wor word processing or Emacs + PSGML + ispell for DocBook ;-) Gnumeric for Spreadsheet Latex Beamer for Presentations I wish there would be a ban on integrated stuff ;-) Best, Alejandro Imass > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.= com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 03:57:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6BA1065676 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8945C8FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20051 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jun 2010 03:57:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2010 03:57:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=McfvwJG6hxjpuISMtuoEgtdiaTRbpKHUG+ToNKiFztsHBaPq7fisNG5GgBqSNnBGCxHAw5VlktiBsVknV4NfZsCIfz6vS1VVZ05Cg344PwLPUDVYzB14UYzGcrSi8egh; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLTSb-000617-Pw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:57:14 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:56:51 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:56:50 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:57:15 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > spreadsheet. >=20 > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that suppor= ts > complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the matter: Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office? If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible? There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would work for the purposes you described. Maybe someone else can comment on the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for instance). Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via MS Excel. I loathe "applications" written in VBA, to put it mildly, and only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient OO.o install on one of my computers for so long. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwMbgIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUKrgCg5KWZFWDmr+DCzqppsgEY03Hc uC4AoOCLoBLt8CG1fkkpPSLkHzB8mLlH =YFxd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 04:01:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CDF1065673 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DBBF8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24833 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jun 2010 04:01:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2010 04:01:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=TGHqCDR7rCrUdcl5j4GLkA/CgXsQKUHwl7ZteIDtj8hiODRrXAMz3F2BOTtaiyA78vVFTFvtSnuS8jfd85YEYT2xDKCtEAtr+mUO3D6wywyThf4yN9fnxsyk2Pb8NFnF; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLTWK-0001uN-8C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:01:05 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:00:41 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:00:41 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607040041.GB29350@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> <20100606183258.GC46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606183258.GC46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:01:05 -0000 --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the > Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions > of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're > arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the > fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the > features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. Given my preference for (t)csh syntax over sh syntax for an interactive shell, I guess that doesn't give me a whole lot of motivation to try it out. Another response to my question discusses some other benefits, though. . . . Thanks for your perspective. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwMbukACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVzLQCeI0s/NeeGqcjfbiIq/rHBqusn tmIAnRZWXaMaF7i0MYGiu3XmZotpfzFF =h1sT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 04:06:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F5F1065678 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13E108FC18 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26035 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jun 2010 04:06:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Jun 2010 04:06:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=RjfjWpuXoak/PD9y8AvcSPGBWkGrSh4Q5QvTalWy8HX6PztMtyMwKdecU3TcNLSk/MJ/9cEY2ykGNszqjzAdsvdLvkW6tJcvcdnfLZ/cPIbIpt5zfpoFGEqSdPVp67Nz; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLTba-0007J9-G1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:06:31 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607040607.GC29350@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> <20100606200628.GA8748@holstein.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606200628.GA8748@holstein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:06:32 -0000 --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:06:28AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: >=20 > I cannot say about the tcsh features. That's kind of a shame, since tcsh is what I prefer these days, having long since given up on bash (pretty much immediately after I started using FreeBSD as my primary OS instead of bash, and realized I preferred the csh-style syntax). >=20 > I switched from bash to zsh mainly for excellent vi-mode editing > support, more so over multiple lines. ksh & bash were horrible in > that respect. I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say). Maybe I should some day. Thus far, though, I don't even know if tcsh supports vi-mode editing. >=20 > Recently I have found that regular expression like [a-d] (instead of > {a,b,c,d}) in file name generation work as expected. zsh has more > ways to help file name generation which I have not looked into yet. >=20 > And of course, as stated earlier, compatibility between a bourne > shell script & an interactive shell helps immensely while > developing|debugging a script. This is another area where I just haven't run into the need for that sort of thing. When I use a regex at the command prompt, it's via grep, basically -- I don't tend to get more fancy than something like globbing. For scripting, I stick to sh and "real" programming languages like Perl and Ruby. I'm not terribly clear on tcsh's regex support, and I guess if I needed shell compatibility when writing a shell script (which, for me, is usually just a batch file, perhaps with a little flow control and a variable or two) I can always just start sh. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwMcC8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX1AACgoY8rByoluZA00p9jOYDCNqjy ZccAoM5ojQPhMQCCbgNIzmPZ4QXr/Ky4 =R2jF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 04:22:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64E91065677 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CDE8FC21 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvh11 with SMTP id 11so1669965pvh.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:user-agent :x-operating-system:x-face:face:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j3xvdUJ97CEqN8HLgWOzCexpXooYftzKcTYvfjdYk2U=; b=RcbrxfE5y8mpyIAUhpiJEI7A/p5Pw+nF8jhgbHmNQvgJgsuwNwpA54Q1AXl0Plpt2x Qc25YRprbnNPZHXvDco08/BXgzFM/+AVLdkk1u77pz4viFjFa86p9I7MHARBKi4zYJz9 iYSx2cGriXg/9trweqGiOf4qqXZvtp6CoPW9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:user-agent:x-operating-system:x-face:face:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D+FdJ8ibsduxxeiIqs/0nDqztOQdIzCjb0JvCaKLtcQG4hJj1+x8tY66caKtW9ktJC MgG94EEgROfMOCDjytl1/Uv/NQdnIcFaZYsgenKvgcBszTs3LE2LFv+BtgUKKHYDUIhZ i9eEuOl/N7t78F7AoQB+YzJhd3RT3uI46dFhk= Received: by 10.140.55.15 with SMTP id d15mr10810343rva.58.1275884538422; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.localdomain ([115.78.0.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm4365278rvn.7.2010.06.06.21.22.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:21:50 +0700 From: "Anh Ky Huynh" To: Chip Camden Message-ID: <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group User-Agent: FreeBSD X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Face: FreeBSD Face: FreeBSD X-Mailer: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:22:20 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden wrote: > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please > slap me over to the right one. > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > spreadsheet. There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? For short/unstructure documents, I suggest you to use Ooo (it slows but you can type the document quickly:D) For long/structure documents, LaTeX is a good choice. It is said that ConTeXt is good replacement of LaTeX but I have never tried it. > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that > supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used > without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Have you ever tried Google Spreadsheet or something like that? -- Anh Ky Huynh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 04:38:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB2D106566C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6A78FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Srdd1e0040b6N64A5sea0Y; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:38:34 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SseY1e00A1f6R9u8PseYRc; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:38:34 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:38:32 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:38:32 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:38:35 -0000 On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: >On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >> >> Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? >> OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a >> spreadsheet. >> >> Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports >> complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when >> charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > >It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the >matter: > >Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office? > >If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible? > >There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS >Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to >roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of >anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would >work for the purposes you described. Maybe someone else can comment on >the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for >instance). > >Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a >binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), >I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install >from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via >MS Excel. I loathe "applications" written in VBA, to put it mildly, and >only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient >OO.o install on one of my computers for so long. Tell the "jackasses" that if they want to send you one of their Word docs, they should save it as PDF, or RTF if they want you to edit it. If it's an Excel doc, CSV. Sure, it means some of the Microsoft bells and whistles will get lost in the translation. Tough. They're like American tourists overseas, expecting everyone to speak their language and to be familiar with their provincial customs. I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 04:44:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0841065680 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D618A8FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so1263148vws.13 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:44:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.51.205 with SMTP id e13mr1915833qag.120.1275885886022; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.88.12 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:44:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qWuiBNx1GTD5ybYpApGiN_VMi0k Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:44:48 -0000 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester wro= te: > On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: >> [...] > I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =A0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which > is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? Latex Beamer rules! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 05:37:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFCE1065674 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 05:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270A8FC16 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 05:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id StKr1e0061GXsucA1tdewl; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:37:38 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Stdc1e0071f6R9u8Utddb9; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:37:38 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:37:36 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:37:36 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607053736.GA82554@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:37:39 -0000 On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 21:44:45 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: >On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester wr= ote: >> On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: >>> > >[...] > >> I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =A0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which >> is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? > >Latex Beamer rules! Maybe so, but can the guy with PowerPoint send you something you work with in Beamer? (I'm not familiar with Beamer myself.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 05:50:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D2C106567E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 05:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hmj@elgert.dk) Received: from smtp.fullrate.dk (smtp.fullrate.dk [90.185.1.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33BA8FC2D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 05:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mugin.localhost (2404ds2-nivaa.0.fullrate.dk [89.150.160.57]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E049D1A1 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mugin.localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mugin.localhost (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o575o4AZ003971 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmj@mugin.localhost) Received: (from hmj@localhost) by mugin.localhost (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o575o4CQ003970 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmj) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 From: Harry Matthiesen Jensen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607055004.GA3907@mugin.localhost> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:50:08 -0000 On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +0000, Márcio C.G. wrote: > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. > I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. > Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within firefox 3.6? > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-) -- Mvh/Brgds Harry FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE #3: Compiled at Mon Jun 7 01:54:25 CEST 2010 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 07:10:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E7B1065676 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8048FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o577AsMv095599 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o577Asft095598; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02513; Mon, 7 Jun 10 00:03:28 PDT Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:00:35 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: corky1951@comcast.net Message-Id: <4c0c9913.vejS5RnRURTiavcv%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:10:57 -0000 Charlie Kester wrote: > Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost > everyone else seems to be using for presentations? Just about any app, including PPT, can print to PDF if Acrobat is installed. Without Acrobat, print-to-file specifying a PostScript printer (e.g. an Apple LaserWriter) will produce a PostScript file, which you can make into a PDF using ps2pdf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 07:20:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994861065674 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746908FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61C7229644 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C0C9DCC.1030507@cyberleo.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:20:44 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100508 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:20:47 -0000 Hi! I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's diminutive stature is quite cute. The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131 ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface is going UP and DOWN, then continue. What sort of information would be the most helpful to collect to assist in tracking down the cause of this behaviour? If there is a better mailing list with which to consult, that too would be helpful. Thank you. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 08:50:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C701065678 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF70A8FC1B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:50:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.2, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_50 0.80) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: o578o3d6020225 Received: from kobe.laptop (193.92.246.105.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr [193.92.246.105]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1) with ESMTP id o578o3d6020225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:50:09 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o578nvDZ003989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:49:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o578nu5X003986; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:49:56 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87k4qc5ryr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20100606075751.6453f6ef@scorpio> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:49:56 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20100606075751.6453f6ef@scorpio> (Jerry's message of "Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:57:51 -0400") Message-ID: <87wrubkz0r.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:50:20 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:57:51 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300 > Giorgos Keramidas articulated: >> You can always install bash with "pkg_add". The default package is >> not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash >> binary from its port: >> >> # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash >> # make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 install clean > > I thought that was what this port was for: > > Port: bash-static-4.1.5_2 > Path: /usr/ports/shells/bash-static > Info: The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell Yes, that's what bash-static enables. I only mentioned WITH_STATIC_BASH because it's what I usually prefer to avoid gettext/libintl.so troubles when portupgrade is still half-done and I want to open a new screen window or xterm. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 08:54:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A9C1065674 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FA98FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so2223101fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:54:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qgxwaAQ+ogH3oFjkuqvC7Twvw/4q4JBKQjYrHiJKSzw=; b=w5y4EY5I5UbImNDXHKhEjxk4uSE4YboH7tkJ4BeEYWpse78PtFu9o3gLia1csYxOxO 47vzOJTkNZfQWbcv0qzsj8AZ9cf+oLq7Oro0NwqF8bVe8IpoaijWNAol6k5o2596m8j+ MU+TrGWIBk9bLYfQpp9QWjrphYXuyByvRZZBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QkmPHfTm5cPsNygbR8bvFHlfF/8J3viKBxRYg+a3/rdfXZ6xzJVtwfw2Bs82aU2xmI MlHDuCrcQAbfSO768p+bpLN1oR1m7bRaCjDOs4P+t8Rbzi92ha4UBdJzm+eN+siTttAj l7NSGmA9aRhv+KvbwwnCqd9P7bELn1axh2ORs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.47.25 with SMTP id l25mr2328162bkf.46.1275900890557; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.100 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:54:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44aar8zyrv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <44wrue7j3q.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <44eigl63qr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44aar8zyrv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:54:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:54:52 -0000 Hi, OK, the next day the TAB was OK again after the recompile of kdebase (part of the necessary recompiles specified in /usr/ports/UPDATING - 20090309) This was on a system already on 8.0 (upgraded from 7.2) But I have another issue with that libusb on another system, which is stil 7.2. I want to do the same thing there as described in UPDATING - 20090309 But after pkg_delete, pkg_delete: package 'libusb-0.1.12_4' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway): hplip-3.10.5_1 kdebase-3.5.10_7 kdepim-3.5.10_7 kdeutils-3.5.10_5 at the # cat ${tempfile} | xargs portupgrade -f --batch --yes | tee /tmp/portupgrade-libusb it first reinstalls libusb-0.1.12_4 again !? (This is installed as a dependency of hplip-3.5.10_1) Why ?? After pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/libusb-* I did a # pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database Stale dependency: hplip-3.10.5_1 -> libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb): libutempter-1.1.5_1 (score:21%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no] geef: y Fixed. (-> libutempter-1.1.5_1) Stale dependency: kdebase-3.5.10_7 -> libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb): libutempter-1.1.5_1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] geef: enter voor yes Fixed. (-> libutempter-1.1.5_1) Stale dependency: kdepim-3.5.10_7 -> libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb): libutempter-1.1.5_1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] geef: enter voor yes Fixed. (-> libutempter-1.1.5_1) Stale dependency: kdeutils-3.5.10_5 -> libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb): libutempter-1.1.5_1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] geef: enter voor yes Fixed. (-> libutempter-1.1.5_1) Did I do something wrong here? The only difference I see is that I now still am on 7.2, but it should be doing it also what is missing ? 2010/6/6 Lowell Gilbert > n dhert writes: > > > But is there a workarround somehow in case I DO need to specify options > > different from the default ?? > > I'd really want to know that, for in case ... > > "cd /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4 && make config" > > This is covered in "man ports". > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 09:42:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1410F1065675 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9913D8FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1492504bwz.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:42:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QxxVXzCisjeGHpecCaX2qPj5yCOpaEqu8d2n5iIh8Xg=; b=CQqmYPE5vLvGVb02ezAfmPyTr/v2jgByu79ZtyU5D2b1ygAuXvY+W2bGwXt/9UcINs 6Yc/DkV9xuvOJA6uVW43g97Jou+eJF9SB471ngtSM4LsX4u7dCUpGOOpmV3dWmV20OFa Q9kPncuiBfYdadEMqTKjXyT3IgNCJDXpTuWXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=u80ohUMrl1TyYjmTvJfcn9g+FNhpsEc0fCRg3j/84xO4OUuzvR8ybcqyVmc5WFZM7K 37qvzKWYyXa3cnbc12895meI/9R1oAk4K7GACeLxVAHCwbY1py6M5gQvSDhtkSpmD59e nNfWeFhdZP5NLVJGmbDYaO8KlBTLlDG7X/308= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.81.160 with SMTP id x32mr6528514bkk.74.1275903773532; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.100 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 02:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:42:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: reinstall all of Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:42:55 -0000 After an upgrade FreeBSD72 -> 80, Xorg doesn't work looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7 Current O S FreeSBD-8.0-RELEASE-p2 I have done a portupgrade -af after upgrading, but somehow if seems not to have done this for Xorg ?? How can I reinstall anything of Xorg ? Will this do the job? # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg # make clean # make deinstall # make reinstall clean or # portupgrade -f xorg i'm confused and would like to get it right ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 09:49:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395641065678 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@xroff.net) Received: from xroff.net (xroff.net [200.46.208.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D5B8FC1F for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:49:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maia.hub.org (unknown [200.46.204.243]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5612A4FD143 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xroff.net ([200.46.208.231]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66753-10 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (unknown [193.146.183.225]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3CEF44FD13A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:49:37 +0200 From: Eduardo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607114937.00001a15@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:49:42 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden wrote: > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please > slap me over to the right one. > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > spreadsheet. > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that > supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used > without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > You can use Softmaker products. They are not free but are MS-OO compatible, fast and linux version works fine under FreeBSD. Demo version works for a month. http://www.softmaker.com/english/ (Note that i'm not a Softmaker worker, only a user) HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 09:55:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957B41065674 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ppomary@ug.edu.gh) Received: from mailsrv1.ug.edu.gh (mailsrv1.ug.edu.gh [82.206.239.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0AF8FC1E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailsrv1.ug.edu.gh (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailsrv1.ug.edu.gh (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9BF8B009D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:55:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 82.206.239.244 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ppomary@ug.edu.gh) by mailsrv1.ug.edu.gh with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:55:52 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <2385.82.206.239.244.1275904552.squirrel@mailsrv1.ug.edu.gh> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:55:52 -0000 (GMT) From: "Pamela Pomary" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: make: don't know how to make /usr/local/ssl/fips-1.0/lib/fipscanister.o. Stop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:55:58 -0000 Hello fellow freebsd users. I'am installing openssl from ports on freebsd 8.0. In the process it complains and stops. here is the error: make: don't know how to make /usr/local/ssl/fips-1.0/lib/fipscanister.o. Stop Will be grateful for help on this error. cheers! :) -- Pamela Pomary ICT Assistant (Network Administration) ICT Directorate University of Ghana Tel:+233 244 994 020 skype:ppomary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 10:04:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF3D106566C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4B88FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1OLZBm-000G30-SC; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:04:14 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Antonio Vieiro References: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:04:14 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Antonio Vieiro's message of "Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:00:23 +0200") Message-ID: <32033361@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happens with x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:04:17 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:00:23 +0200 Antonio Vieiro wrote: > fetch: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm: > Not Found I've just updated the port to gtk2-2.14.7-9.fc10. Give it a try, please. Thanks for the report! -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 10:08:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD131065679 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050378FC1B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so1670206vws.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.65.103 with SMTP id h39mr1255864qai.288.1275905308291; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i29sm14547735vcr.12.2010.06.07.03.08.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05E96E5480A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607060824.4911c582@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100607055004.GA3907@mugin.localhost> References: <20100607055004.GA3907@mugin.localhost> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:08:30 -0000 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 Harry Matthiesen Jensen articulated: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +0000, Márcio C.G. wrote: > > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an > > workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within > > firefox 3.6? > > > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox > 3.5.9, and java works ;-) The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in '3.6.x' will become available. -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 10:28:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9ED1065675 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBC58FC20 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so299648gwj.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:28:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=GEIfSgpyYc4hIFcy7hVp4KqjREFzWfDQGKFQ0ZOKZmA=; b=nHr/rqw/diYJxig8euLyE7pEL7qUyjTf9GbdCpfVVTalFYT7ZGt7qN0fZOGclbMwm5 i8YlT8PsgViQU32PNlK5UxlvKPo/IFC/agfvcisGUvCp/BVTZ1B8Y62D3btIT16MTq+t OLfi3vZrtE6WEd4DBNadGF1i48NE8xpwANF0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=Gd/D/6snp5Rtp+f+xeKUQQDssM9X7yJc1xWiyozNnqMEkWRjeWfxRUL5qsTaPu4xRZ w66eiWAylK/3S8iFALwKczQDLfApo0so0DtuQ8+NBi2Qges6k9zm6WJsgiDUgkZUo69e 3D1pBgCQ+kf8V6eFTgJyhQbDEketDeFGcoU9w= Received: by 10.150.213.15 with SMTP id l15mr14365268ybg.202.1275906489953; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:28:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: peter harrison Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 03:28:09 -0700 Message-ID: <-5395485149159702035@unknownmsgid> To: andrew clarke , peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:28:11 -0000 Thanks, I never realised thttpd could run cgi. Looks simple to configure too. Cheers, Peter. -----Original Message----- From: andrew clarke Sent: 07 June 2010 11:08 To: peter harrison Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations On Sun 2010-06-06 18:44:10 UTC+0100, peter harrison (four.harrisons@googlemail.com) wrote: > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? thttpd? http://acme.com/software/thttpd/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 10:35:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2861065675 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from extmail-01.people.net.au (extmail-01.people.net.au [202.154.123.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C5E98FC22 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30231 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2010 10:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.153.24) by extmail-01.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Jun 2010 10:08:54 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7BF661729D; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:08:54 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:08:54 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: peter harrison Message-ID: <20100607100854.GA74807@ozzmosis.com> References: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:35:39 -0000 On Sun 2010-06-06 18:44:10 UTC+0100, peter harrison (four.harrisons@googlemail.com) wrote: > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? thttpd? http://acme.com/software/thttpd/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 10:46:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEBC106566C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hmj@elgert.dk) Received: from smtp.fullrate.dk (smtp.fullrate.dk [90.185.1.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9438FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mugin.localhost (2404ds2-nivaa.0.fullrate.dk [89.150.160.57]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A1F9CF47 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:46:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mugin.localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mugin.localhost (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o57AkGnj005984 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:46:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmj@mugin.localhost) Received: (from hmj@localhost) by mugin.localhost (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o57AkGXi005983 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:46:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmj) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:46:16 +0200 From: Harry Matthiesen Jensen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607104616.GA5882@mugin.localhost> References: <20100607055004.GA3907@mugin.localhost> <20100607060824.4911c582@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607060824.4911c582@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:46:19 -0000 On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:08:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox > > 3.5.9, and java works ;-) > > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated > I am fully aware of that... The short answer would be "not yet possible" or "just wait, will come later"... which in my "world" not is an answer anyone can use.. I just showed a way of getting java support in Firefox 3 ;-) -- Mvh/Brgds Harry FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE #3: Compiled at Mon Jun 7 01:54:25 CEST 2010 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 11:40:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04A1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1E88FC18 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1518793bwz.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:40:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rbP4FsUkn6Nhc+dc50GgrDmODLP2VbrIp0KsPLp0CKE=; b=uHiQY4VPeH4LYHHkotxtTilXEgF9mcRJE1TFUbG4ut9LCToOlMQkwq+0zmtdLVBzNi hamk8aGXEJf+dr65sHs4BC8YqcaAbHImIQZHPSxndh/PS4cnHs5DefHbhxpdCJHUbb7f KDqeczvpaHGD3dGnXwJlp4V88SpSH7QeG9Bpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YxoaPO5CmzauopAgLNHO0mZJgFF2hnoMF4O8vlnGOxz1U/cdhGrefA50L/eLrWK52M ka6GOWLbzNIdknSuqF1F52lXwhN0XrAIbMMZfbThZw5RiMhtGwHjkEu84Wo9OFBGlR+j kbAUPyukNSiWAxBKPR/fLZo+4dgl4IXwCKUX8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.81.230 with SMTP id y38mr6602549bkk.119.1275908958099; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.79.2 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:09:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> References: <-1160784904932995596@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:09:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: Artifex Maximus To: peter harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:40:39 -0000 Hello! On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:44 PM, peter harrison wrote: > I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably > with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well. > Anyone willing to make a recommendation? nginx? http://nginx.org/ Bye, a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 11:56:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F969106564A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E3B8FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4363800.home.otenet.gr [79.130.6.8]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o57BuX62004295; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:56:34 +0300 Message-ID: <4C0CDE71.8010807@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:56:33 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: n dhert References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reinstall all of Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:56:40 -0000 On 07/06/2010 12:42 μ.μ., n dhert wrote: > After an upgrade FreeBSD72 -> 80, Xorg doesn't work > looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7 > Current O S FreeSBD-8.0-RELEASE-p2 > > I have done a portupgrade -af after upgrading, but somehow if seems not to > have done this for Xorg ?? > How can I reinstall anything of Xorg ? > > Will this do the job? > # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > # make clean > # make deinstall > # make reinstall clean > I doubt this will work. x11/xorg is a meta port, make deinstall will not really deinstall anything but the skeleton port. If you wish to go down this route, install something like ports-mgmt/pkg_rmleaves. Then select xorg from the list and follow down all the list of dependencies it will show you while it is running, until everything is uninstalled. > or > # portupgrade -f xorg > > Probably portupgrade -Rf xorg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 12:53:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8AE1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4D68FC18 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so492842ewy.33 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:53:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.31.133 with SMTP id y5mr3383447ebc.68.1275915189931; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.27.211 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 05:53:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.42.159] In-Reply-To: <201006061956.07918.mike.jeays@rogers.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201006061956.07918.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:53:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Mike Jeays Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:53:11 -0000 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: >> Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that suppo= rts >> complex formulas and charting? =A0If it could also be used without X11 w= hen >> charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > > Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It suppo= rts > charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a = Linux > system, seems much "lighter" than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much mor= e > quickly than Calc. math/sc is a text-only (ncurses-based) version of VisiCalc. It could use some improvements though, but it's fine for small quick-n-dirty jobs. > "pkg_add -r gnumeric" should install it for you. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 13:03:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F701065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A478FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o57D3PPk001091; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:03:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o57D3Piv001088; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:03:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:03:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: CyberLeo Kitsana In-Reply-To: <4C0C9DCC.1030507@cyberleo.net> Message-ID: References: <4C0C9DCC.1030507@cyberleo.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:03:28 -0000 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's > based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of > this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's > diminutive stature is quite cute. > > The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming > propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131 > ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as > displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it > will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface > is going UP and DOWN, then continue. If it's like the alc setup on an Acer Aspire One D250, the 10/100 alc chip is used with a 10/100/1000 Atheros PHY. Don't remember the exact symptoms, but it only worked right after manually setting the media to 100baseTX. That was on a gigabit network, but might also help with no cable connected. Rebuilding the kernel without the alc device ought to also work, but is less elegant. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 13:34:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395E61065743 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C47B8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn5 with SMTP id 5so4118369iwn.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.49.6 with SMTP id t6mr4449501ibf.144.1275917684153; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:34:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.201 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:34:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:34:24 +0300 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: mixer relative values don't work without a dev: bug or by design? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:34:46 -0000 % mixer vol +4 Setting the mixer vol from 90:90 to 94:94. % mixer vol -4 Setting the mixer vol from 94:94 to 90:90. % mixer 95 Setting the mixer vol from 90:90 to 95:95. % mixer 90 Setting the mixer vol from 95:95 to 90:90. % mixer +5 ---->Setting the mixer vol from 90:90 to 5:5. % mixer -5 usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ... mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ... mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ... devices: vol, bass, treble, pcm, mic, rec rec devices: mic I have a patch that changes this so that the latter two commands work like the first few and I'm wondering if this would be wanted? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 15:13:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622561065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD01E8FC1B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o57FD1vo028675; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jerry In-Reply-To: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1511945282-1275923581=:27982" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Harry Matthiesen Jensen Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:13:54 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1511945282-1275923581=:27982 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 > Harry Matthiesen Jensen articulated: > > > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +0000, Márcio C.G. wrote: > > > > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an > > > workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within > > > firefox 3.6? > > > > > > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox > > 3.5.9, and java works ;-) > > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in > '3.6.x' will become available. Dear Jerry, as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please allow me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our 'Keep FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads will roll. Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely familiar with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired to do the actual programming. It would be most helpful if you could apportion blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise I'll have to work through layers of department heads, middle management, team leaders and such, and you know how they can close ranks in a crisis. It may take some time, but rest assured we'll catch and fire him, her or them! Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your complaint. If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally authorise the full refund of your purchase price. Best of luck, Ian (CEO FMCI, SENSAUMA, and bar) If you have received this message by mistake, it must be my mistake for sending it to the wrong address; silly me eh? Common law holds that any communication I send you is, failing prior confidentiality agreements by you, yours to communicate to whomever you wish. This message is in plain text so cannot contain any virus, worm or clue, except that language itself is a virus, so a clue to cans of worms. No guarantees can be given of any of it making the slightest sense. Any conclusions you jump to are yours to keep. No change is given. Long, officious disclaimers make me appear important, if officious. Caveat Bloggor! Life is risky and not nohow permanent anyway <&^}= --0-1511945282-1275923581=:27982-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:20:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2641065677 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC9E8FC18 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o57GKcLL042581; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:20:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o57GKbSD042577; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:20:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: pluknet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: is it safe to crossbuild 6.4 i386 on 7.3 amd64 box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:20:39 -0000 On Tue, 11 May 2010, pluknet wrote: > Hi, > > That's sort of "for the record". > I faced with issue where I wasn't able to boot a box w/ kernel built > with subj scheme. > > On build box with 7.3-amd64 installed: > 1. prepare world/kernel in an existing chrooted 6.4-S environment => > doesn't work (see below) > 2. prepare world/kernel just cd'ing to 6.4-S src & change > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX => PROFIT! > Both built with equal config and source. > > Next, what does not work in 1. > System stops after printing "point_to_point" in /etc/rc.d/initrandom: > # XXX temporary until we can improve the entropy > # harvesting rate. > # Entropy below is not great, but better than nothing. > # This unblocks the generator at startup > ( ps -fauxww; sysctl -a; date; df -ib; dmesg; ps -fauxww ) \ > | dd of=/dev/random bs=8k 2>/dev/null > > Here sysctl -a queries dev.cpu.0.freq -> cpufreq_curr_sysctl@/kern/kern_cpu.c > and locks up. As I understand, CPU doesn't return from sched_switch(). > > <118> ethernet > <118> point_to_point > KDB: enter: Line break on console > > db> ps > pid ppid pgrp uid state wmesg wchan cmd > 68 66 51 0 R+ CPU 255 sysctl > 66 64 51 0 S+ wait 0xc82e6648 sh > 65 59 51 0 S+ piperd 0xc853f4c8 dd > 64 59 51 0 S+ wait 0xc82e6218 sh > 59 51 51 0 S+ wait 0xc82e6a78 sh > 51 1 51 0 Ss+ wait 0xc852ec90 sh > > db> bt 68 > Tracing pid 68 tid 100076 td 0xc8551820 > sched_switch(c8551820,0,1) at sched_switch+0x143 > mi_switch(1,0,c8551980,0,c0adf560,...) at mi_switch+0x1ba > sched_bind(c8551820,0) at sched_bind+0x52 > cpu_est_clockrate(0,eebeead4,c84f3400,3,c84f3400,...) at cpu_est_clockrate+0xc1 > cf_levels_method(c8214900,c85da000,eebeeb48) at cf_levels_method+0x303 > cf_get_method(c8214900,c85cb000) at cf_get_method+0x12b > cpufreq_curr_sysctl(c8218cc0,c81ea000,0,eebeec04,c8218cc0,...) at cpufreq_curr_s > sysctl_root(0,eebeec74,4,eebeec04) at sysctl_root+0x107 > userland_sysctl(c8551820,eebeec74,4,0,bfbfdbdc,0,0,0,eebeec70,0) at userland_sys > __sysctl(c8551820,eebeed04) at __sysctl+0x93 > syscall(3b,3b,3b,4,bfbfdbdc,...) at syscall+0x2bf > Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f > --- syscall (202, FreeBSD ELF32, __sysctl), eip = 0x2812650b, esp = 0xbfbfdb4c, > I was able to cross-build and install a 32 bit 8.0 kernel using an amd64 system as the build machine. I was never able to get installworld to work. I did this by NFS mounting the target system's fs on the build system. I mixed the information in the following link http://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2006/09/cross-building-freebsd.html with advice from others to get the kernel installed. I do not have access to my notes at the moment. If you would like details on what I tried let me know. It is unclear if cross-building is officially supported. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:31:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B501065674 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB988FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLf71-0003y3-Gd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:23:44 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:31:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:31:05 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607163105.GA2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> <20100606183258.GC46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607040041.GB29350@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607040041.GB29350@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:31:11 -0000 On Jun 06 2010 22:00, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > > I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the > > Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions > > of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're > > arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the > > fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the > > features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. > > Given my preference for (t)csh syntax over sh syntax for an interactive > shell, I guess that doesn't give me a whole lot of motivation to try it > out. Another response to my question discusses some other benefits, > though. . . . > > Thanks for your perspective. > My pleasure, Chad. If I had learned csh first, I'd probably stick with tcsh myself. I'd also like to publicly thank you on this list for encouraging me to try FreeBSD. I absolutely love it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:35:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4F81065678 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664318FC1D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLfAk-0004tf-Je for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:27:35 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:34:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:34:56 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:35:02 -0000 On Jun 06 2010 21:56, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > > spreadsheet. > > > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports > > complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when > > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > > It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the > matter: > > Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office? > > If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible? > > There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS > Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to > roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of > anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would > work for the purposes you described. Maybe someone else can comment on > the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for > instance). > > Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a > binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), > I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install > from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via > MS Excel. I loathe "applications" written in VBA, to put it mildly, and > only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient OO.o > install on one of my computers for so long. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] That's a very good point. For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 15:41:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D146D1065679 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB918FC1D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10390 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2010 15:15:06 -0000 Received: from ack5833s2.ad.service.osu.edu (bdsfbsd@128.146.175.36 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Jun 2010 08:15:06 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: ow9Xo4UVM1k7XKzF5rLlJiTGltyIwHXIqs5o70JEr2v50eXxFdgyFbCRmnViotOShncg5NkIyKMIwvVD2H8jmDUNlpeDWEa3f2W8L.S0g_HvFzYWDweBXCZSUa4mR1BeIU8CVwGsrVX1W78jwGlvZsYNSER.WNM2wMz5X1bsEQP0M56whEpfnnXoZmYwvVUh1Y5ZouDpUq3Qsvu8O4WDQo1SEyNrml031s6ipdyVw7g3PU5TL7tXccieyh1j9bhshpSUtrCw1xfD6X0aAFURBPcOAzU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes References: <20100607055004.GA3907@mugin.localhost> <20100607060824.4911c582@scorpio> <20100607104616.GA5882@mugin.localhost> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:15:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100607104616.GA5882@mugin.localhost> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.53 (Win32) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:35:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:41:46 -0000 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:46:16 -0400, Harry Matthiesen Jensen wrote: > The short answer would be "not yet possible" or "just wait, will come > later"... which in my "world" not is an answer anyone can use.. > I've been looking for some indication as to how much later "later" is.. one week, one month, one year..? bds From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:40:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0400106567C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C688FC22 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLfGC-0006OA-Qd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:33:14 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:40:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:40:35 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:40:41 -0000 On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 > Chip Camden wrote: > > > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please > > slap me over to the right one. > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > > spreadsheet. > > There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would be considered "lo (sic) hardware". Everything else runs very quickly, even Windows 7 in VirtualBox. OOo is the only time I find myself waiting impatiently. > > For short/unstructure documents, I suggest you to use Ooo (it slows but you can type the document quickly:D) For long/structure documents, LaTeX is a good choice. It is said that ConTeXt is good replacement of LaTeX but I have never tried it. > > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that > > supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used > > without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > > Have you ever tried Google Spreadsheet or something like that? I'm not quite ready to hand all my confidential documents over to Google's servers. > -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:54:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9DC1065677 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D8F8FC18 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so3200982gyh.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.240.199 with SMTP id lb7mr4963628qcb.126.1275929674087; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.232.207 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:54:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:54:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zsUAWSXqTEA0Nbglgpu1zi4JrP0 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:54:35 -0000 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 >> Chip Camden wrote: >> >> > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please >> > slap me over to the right one. >> > >> > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? >> > OOo is such a pig. =A0It takes a good minute to start it up and open a >> > spreadsheet. >> >> There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to= start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? > > I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB wou= ld be > considered "lo (sic) hardware". =A0Everything else runs very quickly, eve= n > Windows 7 in VirtualBox. =A0OOo is the only time I find myself waiting > impatiently. >> Well, now that I recall I had a similar issue with the Android SDK under Linux, and it's related to your problem because OO uses gjc (the GNU Java implementation) as a pre-requisite and Eclipse was using _that_ instead of the Sun jdk I had installed. Well the issue is that Eclipse _took FOREVER_ to start, much like what you are describiong right now with OO (albeit I use FBSD with OO in older hw w/ no problems). Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation, and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 16:56:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6767C106564A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from detachedd@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s8.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s8.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2AA8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT101-W20 ([65.55.90.201]) by snt0-omc4-s8.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [201.34.95.181] From: =?iso-8859-1?B?TeFyY2lvIEMuRy4=?= To: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:56:50 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20100607060824.4911c582@scorpio> References: , <20100607055004.GA3907@mugin.localhost>, <20100607060824.4911c582@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2010 16:56:53.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[6DEC5E80:01CB0662] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:56:53 -0000 >As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D10570) says=2C = JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. >I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port=2C but the plugin didn t work too. >Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within= firefox 3.6? =20 >Thanks in advance=2C =20 >Marcio C. Goulart I'm just trying to figure out some way to make the plugin available in lin= ux-sun-jdk16 work within Firefox 3.6. If it works in Firefox under Linux=2C= probably should work with FreeBSD+Firefox 3.6+linuxulator etc. I guess. If someone got an idea in that way=2C I would appreciate that. Thanks in advace=2C M=E1rcio C. Goulart. =20 _________________________________________________________________ NINGU=C9M PRECISA SABER O QUE VOC=CA EST=C1 COMPRANDO. LEIA MAIS SOBRE ESSE= ASSUNTO AQUI. http://www.microsoft.com/brasil/windows/internet-explorer/features/browse-p= rivately.aspx?tabid=3D1&catid=3D1&WT.mc_id=3D1590= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 17:16:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F01106568E for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624138FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o57HGlOE018396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:16:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0D297F.7070105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:16:47 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:16:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2010 17:34:56, Chip Camden wrote: > For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients > who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in > Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office > tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently > doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my > involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. Heh. Do you always remember to save your MS Office documents in such a way that it clears the history before you e-mail them out? Many times taking a document and hitting 'Undo' a few times can reveal all sorts of stuff that you probably wouldn't have wanted to be made public. Lots of places refuse to permit sending out MS Office documents for that specific reason: PDF is generally acceptable even to the most unenlightened Windows users. Ideally though it should be possible to use an open standard, like XHTML or SVG, so the recipients could edit it themselves if needed. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwNKX8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxuSACeNhy17dld4767KDvjkNMfvgYz S80Aniw8Qzy6PN2tVRlQ1e0VHlDILsHs =ewPz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 17:25:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345A0106566B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01208FC15 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLfxQ-0001hb-05 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:17:53 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:25:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:25:14 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607172514.GD2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:25:20 -0000 On Jun 07 2010 12:54, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 > >> Chip Camden wrote: > >> > >> > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please > >> > slap me over to the right one. > >> > > >> > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > >> > OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > >> > spreadsheet. > >> > >> There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? > > > > I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would be > > considered "lo (sic) hardware".  Everything else runs very quickly, even > > Windows 7 in VirtualBox.  OOo is the only time I find myself waiting > > impatiently. > >> > > Well, now that I recall I had a similar issue with the Android SDK > under Linux, and it's related to your problem because OO uses gjc (the > GNU Java implementation) as a pre-requisite and Eclipse was using > _that_ instead of the Sun jdk I had installed. Well the issue is that > Eclipse _took FOREVER_ to start, much like what you are describiong > right now with OO (albeit I use FBSD with OO in older hw w/ no > problems). Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java > implementation, and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work > with Sun's JRE 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling > your problem is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. That's a good clue -- I'll let you know what I find out. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 17:28:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDAD1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B988FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLg0Y-0002YA-DN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:21:07 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:28:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:28:29 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607172829.GE2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4C0D297F.7070105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C0D297F.7070105@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:28:34 -0000 On Jun 07 2010 18:16, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/06/2010 17:34:56, Chip Camden wrote: > > For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients > > who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in > > Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office > > tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently > > doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my > > involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. > > Heh. Do you always remember to save your MS Office documents in such a > way that it clears the history before you e-mail them out? Many times > taking a document and hitting 'Undo' a few times can reveal all sorts of > stuff that you probably wouldn't have wanted to be made public. > > Lots of places refuse to permit sending out MS Office documents for that > specific reason: PDF is generally acceptable even to the most > unenlightened Windows users. Ideally though it should be possible to > use an open standard, like XHTML or SVG, so the recipients could edit it > themselves if needed. > I'm not fond of Word format in the least. I've mentioned these kinds of vulnerabilities and others, but some clients are stubbornly clinging to old ways. That said, one of the clients I'm thinking about is exploring the idea of using a wiki instead of trading documents -- a move that I am encouraging vehemently. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 18:14:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB2D106566C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BD38FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o57IEMYN002118; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:14:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id o57IEMLT002115; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:14:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:14:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chip Camden In-Reply-To: <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Message-ID: References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:14:26 -0000 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > > For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients > who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in > Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office > tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently > doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my > involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. The genuine Office runs in most of its appalling glory on Wine. Starts up far quicker than OO.o, too. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 18:16:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08401065675 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8638FC22 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F121E1E5BC; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:16:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o57IGtBo001523; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:16:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:16:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100607201655.806ec7f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:16:58 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:56:50 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS > Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to > roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of > anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would > work for the purposes you described. And don't forget there's also StarOffice, the program it all began with. :-) > Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a > binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), > I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install > from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via > MS Excel. In the past, OpenOffice provided localized binary packages, and you could e. g. "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" to install the german version of OpenOffice, including dictionary. Thanks to today's "modern" software this isn't possible anymore, simply due to the many options you NEED to set at compile-time, and things like a dictionary need to be added afterwards manually. So compiling OpenOffice is your only chance to get it, except there is someone who did compile it for you with the correct options (e. g. regarding the use of Java, CUPS, Gnome, KDE, and so on). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 18:24:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EA51065674 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00E68FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLgsR-0004tU-7m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:16:48 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:24:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:24:10 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607182410.GH2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:24:15 -0000 On Jun 07 2010 12:14, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > > > >For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients > >who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in > >Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office > >tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently > >doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my > >involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. > > The genuine Office runs in most of its appalling glory on Wine. Starts > up far quicker than OO.o, too. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Thanks, but no thanks. I can't type and drive a stake at the same time. Seriously, I'd like to avoid polluting my precious FreeBSD system with Microsoft bits, unless it's within a VM. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 18:26:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9DB106566B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79358FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B461F1E7D5; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:26:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o57IQ5LE001550; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:26:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:26:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100607202604.3cdfe13c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100607040607.GC29350@guilt.hydra> References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> <20100606200628.GA8748@holstein.holy.cow> <20100607040607.GC29350@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:26:07 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:06:28AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: > > > > I cannot say about the tcsh features. > > That's kind of a shame, since tcsh is what I prefer these days, having > long since given up on bash (pretty much immediately after I started > using FreeBSD as my primary OS instead of bash, and realized I preferred > the csh-style syntax). I may use this chance to add that I'm also a fan of FreeBSD's csh especially from the standpoint of dialog behaviour. For example, autocompletition is - in my opinion - much better than in bash (which does force too much interaction). Example: $ ls /usr/local/bin/m[tab] BEEP! *** [tab] Display all 146 possibilities? (y or n) *** y mDNSClientPosix* moc-qt4* mDNSIdentify* modutil* --More--(1%) *** q $ ls /usr/local/bin/m The "***" marks all unneccessary interaction that interrupts work flow. Also, csh's history behaviour is better - again in my opinion. For example, if you enter "bl" and press the up / down arrow keys, you can browse all commands that started with "bl", e. g. "bla", "bli", "blubb", "blonk" and so on. In bash, you would browse through *all* commands using the same approach. I am aware of the fact that most shell behaviour can be configured or reprogrammed, but I'm just talking about the default settings. > I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the > fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say). Maybe I > should some day. Thus far, though, I don't even know if tcsh supports > vi-mode editing. According to "man csh", it is possible: The command-line editor (+) Command-line input can be edited using key sequences much like those used in GNU Emacs or vi(1). The editor is active only when the edit shell variable is set, which it is by default in interactive shells. The bindkey builtin can display and change key bindings. Emacs-style key bindings are used by default (unless the shell was compiled other- wise; see the version shell variable), but bindkey can change the key bindings to vi-style bindings en masse. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 18:31:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17B8106564A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF548FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1F61E79C; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o57IVmFC001565; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:31:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:31:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alejandro Imass Message-Id: <20100607203148.328fb302.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607043831.GB69297@comcast.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:31:52 -0000 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Latex Beamer rules! In LaTeX, use "foils" class. Use the final product with % xpdf -fullscreen It just works, and additionally rules. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 19:12:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948BD106566B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524188FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so3369145gyh.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:12:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.215.138 with SMTP id he10mr4989700qcb.60.1275937932881; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.4 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:12:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100521190340.GA66314@thought.org> References: <20100521190340.GA66314@thought.org> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:42:12 +0530 Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how do i use a memory stick on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:12:16 -0000 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > guys, > > my wife emptied a bunch of files onto her memory stick; =A0the pc > is not here. =A0i have never used one of these devices before and > want to know how, if it is possible, to read her dos/lose > material from my bsd system. =A07.3, dell, plenty of disk, and yes, > i know where the usb slot it! > > do i need to put something in /usr/rc.conf? build a driver or > utility? =A0or what? > > tia, Y'all! > > clueless in king county. > > In case you use GNOME, see http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q3. If this was a fresh install of 7.3 (GNOME 2.28), just do steps 1 and 2, ignore the instructions before and after, restart GNOME and then plug the drive in. It should get mounted and appear on our desktop (well, it worked for me !) --=20 Gautham Ganapathy http://lisphacker.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 19:32:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800961065678 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=767ae6435=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz1.oekb.co.at (mgaterz1.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B298FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.20]) by mgaterz1.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 07 Jun 2010 21:03:02 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by exchh1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:03:02 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o57J32tK012573 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:03:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o57J320k012572 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:03:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:03:02 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607190302.GA12501@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: gstreamer-plugins / dependency on webcamd (FreeBSD 7.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:32:32 -0000 Hi, A portupgrade done today stopped with an error during the upgrade of gstreamer-plugins-v4l2-0.10.23,3 with the following error: ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ ===> Installing for gstreamer-plugins-v4l2-0.10.23,3 ===> gstreamer-plugins-v4l2-0.10.23,3 depends on executable: webcamd - not fou nd ===> Verifying install for webcamd in /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd ===> webcamd-0.1.14 requires FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE or later. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-v4l2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/cheese. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100607-41 064-einl-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=cheese-2.28.1_2 UPGRADE_POR T_VER=2.28.1_2 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ------------------------------ < Cut here > ------------------------------ The problem is that the upgrade depends on webcamd which as per the error message requires FreeBSD 8.0. I'm running FreeBSD 7.3 with system and kernel as per April 9, 2010. Has anybody else experienced a problem like this? Any cure against this? Thanks much in advance for you help! -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 20:08:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB03B106564A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6D38FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so2448661vws.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.36.148 with SMTP id t20mr8874839qad.229.1275941328164; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g3sm15788441vcp.16.2010.06.07.13.08.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97F8CE5480A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:08:34 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100607160834.6f34972f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:08:49 -0000 --Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST) Ian Smith articulated: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33 > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry > wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 > > Harry Matthiesen Jensen articulated: > >=20 > >=20 > > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +0000, M=C3=83=C2=A1rcio C.G. wro= te: > > > >=20 > > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D10570) > > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use > > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there > > > > an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin > > > > within firefox 3.6? > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you > > > Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-) > >=20 > > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated > > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in > > '3.6.x' will become available. >=20 > Dear Jerry, >=20 > as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please > allow me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our > 'Keep FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads > will roll. >=20 > Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely > familiar with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired > to do the actual programming. It would be most helpful if you could > apportion blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise > I'll have to work through layers of department heads, middle > management, team leaders and such, and you know how they can close > ranks in a crisis. It may take some time, but rest assured we'll > catch and fire him, her or them! >=20 > Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your > complaint. If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally > authorise the full refund of your purchase price. I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist within the FreeBSD framework. A quick investigation of other operating systems would seem to indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this regards. Now, I am sure that you have personally seen the white sheet detailing the technical reasons for this and will be willing to share it with me and perhaps others who might also be curious about the lack of said product. Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real possibility. Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit: Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait. Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a fully serviceable, quality product. When was the last time you tried getting a native FreeBSD driver for an 'N' class USB wireless device? Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that is just my 2=E2=82=B5. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. --Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMDVHLAAoJEEEooh6m7retIJ8H/0TJNdL6geq7Mn1nni/986iV OV2zn5V4BeWKG49GYvJ17F0tu24TbLuIgnGR+hRBh4Q9SYpm4t2cH8SeC1JdOWdo 4ve48qmBQXSlhwRKsWsf4OeoqswH1Und3XFT87bCQTunW8j3Jeh+3ZBleUvyP2XL gXTun5ipSJx9CHJj9OlYMXXpq/DU0ep+iCLKiTz7Rwz8nPWhdGZ76VRjO5K4hgeV CgRzm+XWcqn+G2tSGFW3QsPxmOU20u65gWPe/7r+wxlOpLLZ7yS7d8XIgArRbRgk Plwozd726LLym1Zejxf4ICukcuFFvVFFm/3r3qaWORjnaS2djH0wQy2VySnXjdA= =YDOg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/vKf_wkUupgNT5t86xFS_MSo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 20:34:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B02106564A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2718FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o57KYALs011261 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:34:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:34:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201006072034.o57KYALs011261@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:34:36 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jun 6 23:47:34 2010 > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400 > From: Alejandro Imass > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: office apps > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester wro= > te: > > On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: > >> > > [...] > > > I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =A0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which > > is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? > > Latex Beamer rules! But, that's such an -upscale- solution! For the proletariat, how about a good oil-based VolksWriter? {{ taking bets with my self on (a) how many recognize the pun, and (b) how many people even -remember- VolksWriter :) }} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 20:43:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A121065677 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184558FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn5 with SMTP id 5so4688986iwn.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C6BDvOdl9tMekoW1hK2qN/amBcvdCAko8mpiFIY8+wc=; b=WFrWiGYEtbMHtif3pUJqUeEzReAOvX8GUEW98y8FBnsx3FTPULLunn3OiCF22Am5nh mk6489JJAQLE7MXlzaOBQW7S10JpyZ5p4jMZ1j3m9RKPTtOOeIgtZ3ZtOl5R66EdgaFU bUVd8fdSPCVyEbziF0axsv4b/JZCttw/J/eb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kJGXk2l4y8zbkOqzr5Oeh0me8ZzgIGy0pT/qN3yjdX4IAeuyG/u3U9w74DRL7sQ9bK mhzqPIbihHbond8BUWND/cDBEIvgswUdUnEkZ1A+FaPSHlpZe8kzUF7isvqQGwJt7MBe DE44F5weO0U5yGuzsXHK56Drp0m/CEa5Hhgd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.145 with SMTP id p17mr5783278ibv.28.1275943427377; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.31.132 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:43:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201006072034.o57KYALs011261@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201006072034.o57KYALs011261@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:43:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:43:48 -0000 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 13:34, Robert Bonomi wrot= e: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =C2=A0Sun Jun =C2=A06 23:47:34 = 2010 >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400 >> From: Alejandro Imass >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: office apps >> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester = wro=3D >> te: >> > On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> > I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =3DA0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, w= hich >> > is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? >> >> Latex Beamer rules! > > > But, that's such an -upscale- solution! > > For the proletariat, how about a good oil-based VolksWriter? > > > {{ taking bets with my self on (a) how many recognize the pun, and (b) ho= w > many people even -remember- VolksWriter :) }} Never played with VolksWriter, but recognize the name. Of course, I'm very unhappy about the pun - because you came up with it a-hood of me! Heh. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 20:46:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAADA1065677 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33258FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLj63-0000Ty-0E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:39:00 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:46:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:46:22 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100607204622.GO2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201006061956.07918.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201006061956.07918.mike.jeays@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:46:28 -0000 On Jun 06 2010 19:56, Mike Jeays wrote: > On June 6, 2010 04:34:16 pm Chip Camden wrote: > > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap > > me over to the right one. > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > > spreadsheet. > > > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports > > complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when > > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. > > Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It supports > charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a Linux > system, seems much "lighter" than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much more > quickly than Calc. > > "pkg_add -r gnumeric" should install it for you. > Gnumeric *is* nice and quick. I'll use that for SS until I find something better. Thanks! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 20:48:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660A81065675 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B1B8FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so2500678vws.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.41.18 with SMTP id m18mr321422qae.45.1275943679367; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.232.207 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:47:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201006072034.o57KYALs011261@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201006072034.o57KYALs011261@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:47:59 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eoTgeSKTQey4JD-WRcbt-Su45xI Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:48:01 -0000 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Robert Bonomi wr= ote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =A0Sun Jun =A06 23:47:34 2010 >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400 >> From: Alejandro Imass >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: office apps >> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester = wro=3D >> te: >> > On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: >> >> >> >> [...] >> >> > I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =3DA0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, w= hich >> > is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations? >> >> Latex Beamer rules! > > > But, that's such an -upscale- solution! > > For the proletariat, how about a good oil-based VolksWriter? > Nahh, man. Beamer is easy as 123, once everything is installed. All you need is a decent text editor and voil=E1, beatifulk, meaninful, well-structred presentations! and in PDF, plus it's easy to make hand-outs and other advanced stuff. The Beamer book is ver extensive, but I would be happy to post an example beamer presentation here if you want. > > {{ taking bets with my self on (a) how many recognize the pun, and (b) ho= w > many people even -remember- VolksWriter :) }} > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 7 21:24:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CA31065670 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D089A8FC1C for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:24:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3N000R9Y5BFP30@asmtp030.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1006070145 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2010-06-07_04:2010-02-06, 2010-06-07, 2010-06-07 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20100607160834.6f34972f@scorpio> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:24:47 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <73E194E2-9945-4733-AFBA-4591CEAB8790@mac.com> References: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20100607160834.6f34972f@scorpio> To: Jerry X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:24:52 -0000 On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote: [ ... ] > I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a = serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist = within the FreeBSD framework. That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running = FF+Java under Linux emulation. =20 > A quick investigation of other operating systems would seem to = indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this regards. The JRE from java.sun.com has binaries for Linux, Solaris, and Windows-- = which are the officially supported Java platforms-- and one could add = Apple's MacOSX. If you are running FreeBSD, Plan 9, HP/UX, IRIX, AIX, = or anything else, Java is not going to be nearly as well-supported. If Java is critical to you, seriously consider using another platform. > Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and > FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past > experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released > before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real > possibility. That's entirely possible. > Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit: >=20 > Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is > insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an = open > source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait. Like many things, different people's motives and perspective tend to = shape how they perceive the same set of underlying facts. > Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more > interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a > fully serviceable, quality product. The two aren't closely related. Major version # bumps in commercial = software often happen because the vendor wants to sell upgrade licenses, = but that motivation simply doesn't apply to FreeBSD. Major version # = bumps happen in FreeBSD primarily because of major API changes which end = up making an entirely new version of userland libc & other libraries = desirable. =20 > When was the last time you tried getting a native FreeBSD driver for = an 'N' class USB wireless device? Never. The only 'N' device I have around is a Macbook Pro, and that's = running the vendor-supplied driver which came with the device. > Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to > me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully > functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, = that > is just my 2=E2=82=B5. Hopefully you get your money's worth. Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 00:21:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9521106566C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75BD78FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7663 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2010 00:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2010 00:21:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=lUiyGueKu3Ub67+MlUqH00Nz+7HdQSv31gPiUTHnjUiO/h56bZQ0ofwI0Cr1wLSmypCCgrJ+x/9qaJv0X0BwnciokXi+IH2hMEEm2Uqu7gE9PUHXzF8rSe8S621KWHeC; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLmZe-0000Mp-Ri for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:47 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:21:21 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100608002121.GA33164@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607114937.00001a15@unknown> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607114937.00001a15@unknown> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:21:48 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 11:49:37AM +0200, Eduardo wrote: >=20 > You can use Softmaker products. They are not free but are MS-OO > compatible, fast and linux version works fine under FreeBSD. Demo > version works for a month. >=20 > http://www.softmaker.com/english/ Interesting. It looks like SoftMaker Office is in the ports tree, at: /usr/ports/editors/softmaker-office I'll have to consider whether it's worth investigating as an alternative to OO.o for my own purposes. I'd rather not spend money on something that I never use except when someone else "forces" me to do so, against my better judgment and preferences, but it might be worth a few dollars to avoid the annoyance of dealing with OO.o on the rare occasion that I do need something MS Office compatible. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNjQEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUfKgCbBD+2kcgARHzmOPksUUzRlDtn 3WEAoJ1jliLFyAN/GpylfEJRBKTtNIDy =a6uY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 00:24:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2229D1065675 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDE7D8FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10696 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2010 00:24:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2010 00:24:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=e2LB0FbaXZ4IAlM0mGk31o9QescWA5IWRPndola9ByBObannY2bG5xYMoTbzy3LaY0PgE/jSpEWmpSpg+lHCOG0EspJW7Ma5U8PDlSFDvGt/FrNAp3a+MOAcps3tuenx; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLmcT-0003EW-Dg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:24:42 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:24:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:24:16 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100608002416.GB33164@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> <20100606200628.GA8748@holstein.holy.cow> <20100607040607.GC29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607202604.3cdfe13c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607202604.3cdfe13c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:24:43 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 08:26:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin wrot= e: >=20 > > I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the > > fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say). Maybe I > > should some day. Thus far, though, I don't even know if tcsh supports > > vi-mode editing. >=20 > According to "man csh", it is possible: >=20 > The command-line editor (+) > Command-line input can be edited using key sequences much like = those > used in GNU Emacs or vi(1). The editor is active only when the = edit > shell variable is set, which it is by default in interactive sh= ells. > The bindkey builtin can display and change key bindings. Emacs-= style > key bindings are used by default (unless the shell was compiled o= ther- > wise; see the version shell variable), but bindkey can change the= key > bindings to vi-style bindings en masse. Excellent! I don't have to wait until I get off my tuckus to look it up now. Thank for feeding my laziness. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNjbAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWgHQCffUmcIhYOW+rws+nQ582BS3aw oGgAn0Z5/71cFrekGoz9rkZ/xHvFnRdb =rGKY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 00:25:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625C3106567D for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 299918FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1288 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2010 00:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2010 00:25:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=M3k7uEPidhBQ6676S1rj2Z69xfPjRttT1oThLBfrO2G2mSiru+7cHsOg4Y1bTlJx8HJ8LglSh3e1bT3yMQTVsRHdhJXZjOPzzOSNnIGefiRRGCihEHKNuteCt/N4ik6B; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLmdh-0004el-Dr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:25:58 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:25:32 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:25:32 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100608002532.GC33164@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100605231715.GD69990@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606163136.GA27788@guilt.hydra> <20100606175043.GA46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606182148.GB28095@guilt.hydra> <20100606183258.GC46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607040041.GB29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163105.GA2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100607163105.GA2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: which is the basic differences between the shells? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:25:59 -0000 --z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 09:31:05AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > I'd also like to publicly thank you on this list for encouraging me to > try FreeBSD. I absolutely love it. I consider it a service to mankind to encourage more people using better, and better-licensed, software. You're welcome, and I'm pleased as punch it's working out so well for you. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNjfwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXpZwCg7Kzz788WU+Y2ZFUdBZ22816X tFcAniWbrXt/IoqMT5nibhhq+aahxgTt =ivFh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 00:29:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0E1065689 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260F38FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so4030892wwb.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:29:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fqKVkqy1XkzH7ipvZubxt01LccTXInsHMovg7DHWDMo=; b=xnYekD+KeO22O6NdC56YRQr1AGI3RFejF3HY7hPgl3Obj4toZMc1vBi2+r6L8C6KBx 6M1mjTEU7nyNwE5TrSe+An71c29bqI4PiWqsNGKzFmeohf2eI76BvftVOaLbbm20vOXn Lug8EV/6JTHKKFF3Nsxt02MX96qmnyrajEkc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aifYxioDvOCZF/shK2zT2Foe3zM3uvdD0wEewJuWdpMvZFpHpO0e/XENBPoPrUfA+t ZNh+J+L8nNbZwSVe0LUqkEOlX8N+eJiACkCx76UMVvzY/H58iQ0W1f6z/Bw4UpwSjhmJ iKbZkagg5O2Zz79jGjEk02YqD7KiSNc9IY4B4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.197 with SMTP id u47mr2935942wee.77.1275956948710; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.237.76 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100608002121.GA33164@guilt.hydra> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607114937.00001a15@unknown> <20100608002121.GA33164@guilt.hydra> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:29:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:29:10 -0000 Just an FYI here folks. If one has gmail, we can Preview these Documents via the web browsers :) But I believe that we are ok with the office apps that we have :) koffice(kword,kspread, kpresenter, ...) goffice(abiword, gnumeric, ..., ) OO(openoffice-writer,... ) There is GO OO which is a smaller version of OpenOffice, don't know if it is in the ports or not? Several persons have named TeX/LaTeX , but I *wonder* when TeXLive will replace TeTEX on FreeBSD? NetBSD/OpenBSD already have it, what is taking them too long to include them officially? I know about the builds, and google-code, but it is still not the same :(, like you would get from other systems . Regards, Antonio On 6/8/10, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 11:49:37AM +0200, Eduardo wrote: >> >> You can use Softmaker products. They are not free but are MS-OO >> compatible, fast and linux version works fine under FreeBSD. Demo >> version works for a month. >> >> http://www.softmaker.com/english/ > > Interesting. It looks like SoftMaker Office is in the ports tree, at: > > /usr/ports/editors/softmaker-office > > I'll have to consider whether it's worth investigating as an alternative > to OO.o for my own purposes. I'd rather not spend money on something > that I never use except when someone else "forces" me to do so, against > my better judgment and preferences, but it might be worth a few dollars > to avoid the annoyance of dealing with OO.o on the rare occasion that I > do need something MS Office compatible. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 01:21:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F91065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9768FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o581LCve021574 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:21:11 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100608012105.GA5465@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 01:21:16 -0000 i'v been having trouble upgrading stuff for the past n weeks. i just noticed that my web server won't build. or/when it does, it won't start. i just fired off /usr/local/sbin/apachetl -k start and get: httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so into server: Cannot open "/usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so" When i try to locate this file, i find it in apache/libphp5.so: root@ethic:/usr/local/sbin# locate php5.so /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so Can anybody explain the recent changes? i did read UPDATING, but didn't get that much out of it... gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 02:12:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54AE1065675 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 02:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF0B8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 02:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o582CiMS074651; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:12:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Chip Camden In-Reply-To: <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Message-ID: References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:12:49 -0000 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > [...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that > I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using > some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different > format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd > like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when > I must. I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, so... -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 02:58:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED9F1065678 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 02:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429528FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 02:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o582wEn4021016 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:58:13 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100608025813.GA37407@thought.org> References: <20100608012105.GA5465@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100608012105.GA5465@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Subject: Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:58:18 -0000 On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:21:11PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > i'v been having trouble upgrading stuff for the past n weeks. i > just noticed that my web server won't build. or/when it does, it > won't start. i just fired off /usr/local/sbin/apachetl -k start > and get: > > > > httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of > /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load > /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so into server: Cannot open > "/usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so" > > When i try to locate this file, i find it in apache/libphp5.so: > > > root@ethic:/usr/local/sbin# locate php5.so > /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so > > Can anybody explain the recent changes? i did read UPDATING, but > didn't get that much out of it... > {*********************} guys, i understand that it is 'improper' to reply to one's own post, esp'ly the first reply, but i have discovered more of what is ggoing on. First, i tried to start apache22 with the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d; same outcome, just same results are starting the binary directly. nonetheless, i edited the httpd.conf in /usr/local/etc/apache22. i corrected the libphp.so directory to read 'apache' rather than 'apache22'. so the library is presumably loaded, then something else is missing. i cannot find "ap_user_id"; neither locate nor a recursive grep finds this string. when i exec the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 with 'configtest' as an arg i get this: Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so: Undefined symbol "ap_user_id" root@ethic:/usr/local/etc/rc.d# question number one, which port builds the apache php5 library? number two; is there one that will resolve the missing 'ap_user_id'? several months ago i built a friend's website; he is is contruction which is hurting; i figured having a website might give him an edge. no .. this was gratis. not dime, dollar, nor favor is involved. i would like to get apache up for myself and my friend. gotta say that this port wasn't handled very well in /usr/ports/UPDATING. OR, too, i may be the idiot de jour. i only care that my webserver gets up again, so thanks for any clues! gary > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 04:25:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A1A106564A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 000B08FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14834 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2010 04:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2010 04:25:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=DUm5ikQYsxUllo5C0PAXjWMkDBT8emXoSwkhkieS+Wx3WFEu/GllUQLy9D2L3La8Qh/AMY9MxzFncKT4UJzOPRC+q6Msx7min0NEi5iHS5bq57iLdkSvR3ct1kuNwUkw; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLqNm-000514-DA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:25:47 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:25:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:25:20 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100608042520.GA33797@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607114937.00001a15@unknown> <20100608002121.GA33164@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:25:48 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 12:29:08AM +0000, Antonio Olivares wrote: >=20 > But I believe that we are ok with the office apps that we have :) > koffice(kword,kspread, kpresenter, ...) > goffice(abiword, gnumeric, ..., ) > OO(openoffice-writer,... ) > There is GO OO which is a smaller version of OpenOffice, don't know if > it is in the ports or not? I'm not any kind of fan of OO.o, thanks to its weight, slowness, Java-dependent build process, lack of binary availability, obtuse interface (much like MS Office's), and so on. I don't feel the need to install all of KDE or GNOME just to get a word processor and spreadsheet program I might use a couple times a year. I don't think Go-oo is smaller than OO.o, though it is reportedly a lot faster. Of course, it's not in ports, and I'm not keen on building something roughly the size of OO.o just to find out if it runs a little faster, so I don't know personally whether that's true. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNxjAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWC7gCg4iuikCGkkgyR43YUv61LJtaD k0sAoJrYMfLwqfjKt0kLy7NUaP1O3D/H =gZ5C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 04:28:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E93C1065677 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2863E8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3928 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2010 04:28:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2010 04:28:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=hrCs1ppqGAtzV8HKeecPAPRYCXKYbXHeV6GdD7iCYGMFsb7BiqEcAaC0Wjve/bcBiHdFyAs0K4IPFEabA3065Y3JDUJpcbiArdGwPyuwDdlGl2Gs/DO2YvxHmp3u1K+D; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLqQP-0007Ze-KM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:28:30 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100608042804.GB33797@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NMuMz9nt05w80d4+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:28:31 -0000 --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 10:12:44PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: >=20 > >[...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that= =20 > >I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using=20 > >some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different=20 > >format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd= =20 > >like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when= =20 > >I must. >=20 > I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and=20 > really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv fo= o=20 > foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file,= =20 > so... I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. On the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text if they "must" have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after making some changes. I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the rarity, rather than me being the odd man out. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNxtQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXm5QCg5Xx+LlMtEuT7R/47n9Oqy/hF GhAAoJAm69C0zkhqjf5kDLZLw9SDRvbU =+/44 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NMuMz9nt05w80d4+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 05:08:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB53106564A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FCE98FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19229 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2010 05:08:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2010 05:08:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=EgUGcrnobcqh6r3ky4ndWSWQU4IbUhvSIOEaHDCn4g3N1jIImg/GSKTRScDbQMKSNiutbHmCqZEg8xp0FMBZ/rUKOu6IrTldBt4QgynHaXS8z9Myx08VywGaYiBKlr2D; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLr33-00064o-Fz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:08:26 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:08:00 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 23:07:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100608050759.GA33984@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: nvi autoindent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:08:27 -0000 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there perhaps some way to get language-specific autoindent with nvi, perhaps similar to what Vim provides? I've been scouring the manpage to no avail, and at this point suspect that the only automatic indentation support is a simple automatic indentation of the next line by the same mount the current line is indented when entering a newline. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwN0C8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWtVQCeP4qJWiT+R4pjL0F2f45AFyCr umQAnRA1Xvgm/fbOK34H0RkamtSaqnYF =vNwv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 05:17:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D7D1065670 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD2B8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so373696wyi.13 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nOx/9dd07Edh/3FojuVK8cFcVFD2v3tngChqtrIBycU=; b=lrXSpwghGHFbbeYJqtXo4yfacX7atC3FKEREXnEVSC+EbB2/UwW5J6Co9uyyr/Y2R2 zjRlZh5iBxtNcL0vKYI127r1aIdaTQVrNYJl89MdGhwvgcBuyA7+hIwc11td7TIcxx9a Rvuon+uXnc8rlYEOliNeBqtcjYRle0gBYPflY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WF3YAbcFPSNw+rkc2kb3/krP9VTL1BBE/C0zafQc+/QIKLUAGTcpkY/5iAj98Ecnke r/+hSA/xX4sBXwlVCo6dVGl7ND6UrevotKDM+a49s8WGcmGmoA/JVIpkn2+6O6DMj0V5 PQbkxmd5H/RukOUsuKSxc1o7Br1mgaQqI9aIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.180.198 with SMTP id j48mr3037922wem.108.1275974219617; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:16:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:17:01 -0000 hello, i am trying to install vlc but i came up against this error.. ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/live/liveMedia/libliveMedia.a - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on package: v4l_compat>=1.0.20100321 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/include/X11/xpm.h - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/sdl-config - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avcodec.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: notify.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tar.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: zvbi.13 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: hal.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avahi-common.3 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vcdinfo.2 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdio.12 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdda_interface.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvbpsi.5 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvdnav.4 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faac.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faad.2 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: FLAC.10 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: fribidi.3 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: aa.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dirac_decoder.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: x264.85 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: caca.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dca.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: matroska.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: a52.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpeg2.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: shout.5 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: theora.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tag.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: id3tag.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mad.2 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: modplug.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpcdec.5 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: ogg.7 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: smbclient.0 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: gnutls.40 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: speex.1 - found ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vga.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for vga.1 in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib ===> svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc. i search in the mailing list and i found that if i make a modify with "make confing" in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8 these two parametres [ ] GS_lvga256 D: SVGAlib, 256-color VGA modes [ ] GS_vgalib D: SVGAlib, 16-color VGA modes that the problem will solved,but i had no luck. also i updated my ports and the i updated the packages multimedia/vlc,print/ghostscript,graphics/svgalib but still the problem wasn't solved.. any help would be appreciated.:) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 05:40:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E0B1065674 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DDA8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4363800.home.otenet.gr [79.130.6.8]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id o585eF3C015623; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:40:16 +0300 Message-ID: <4C0DD7BF.8060703@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:40:15 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:40:18 -0000 On 08/06/2010 8:16 Ï€.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am trying to install vlc but i came up against this error.. > > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: > /usr/local/live/liveMedia/libliveMedia.a - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on package: v4l_compat>=1.0.20100321 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/include/X11/xpm.h - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc - > found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so - > found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/sdl-config - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - > found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: pkg-config - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avcodec.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: notify.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tar.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: zvbi.13 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: hal.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avahi-common.3 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vcdinfo.2 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdio.12 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdda_interface.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvbpsi.5 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvdnav.4 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faac.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faad.2 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: FLAC.10 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: fribidi.3 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: aa.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dirac_decoder.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: x264.85 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: caca.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dca.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: matroska.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: a52.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpeg2.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: shout.5 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: theora.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tag.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: id3tag.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mad.2 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: modplug.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpcdec.5 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: ogg.7 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: smbclient.0 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: gnutls.40 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: speex.1 - found > ===> vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vga.1 - not found > ===> Verifying install for vga.1 in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib > ===> svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc. > > > i search in the mailing list and i found that if i make a modify with "make > confing" in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8 > these two parametres > > [ ] GS_lvga256 D: SVGAlib, 256-color VGA modes > [ ] GS_vgalib > D: SVGAlib, 16-color VGA modes > > that the problem will solved,but i had no luck. > > also i updated my ports and the i updated the packages > multimedia/vlc,print/ghostscript,graphics/svgalib but still the problem > wasn't solved.. > > any help would be appreciated.:) > This does not seem to be the only place where SVGALIB is defined though. I just tried a make config-recursive in multimedia/vlc and can see SVGALIB both in the main port, the sdl port and so on. It is off by default (I am using amd64 too), so I guess you made some config changes yourself. At this point the easy way would be to: cd /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc make rmconfig-recursive make config-recursive (careful not to select SVGALIB anywhere, or even better just leave the default options) make install clean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 05:42:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CE41065670 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy@stormy.smart-serv.net) Received: from mx01.edm.ab.smart-serv.net (web1.smart-serv.net [IPv6:2610:1e8:2900::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9428FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.41] (S0106000d87073d15.nb.shawcable.net [70.74.68.215]) by mx01.edm.ab.smart-serv.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F0C0C113490F; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 23:42:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4C0DD83B.6080209@stormy.smart-serv.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:42:19 -0700 From: Jeremy Johnston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100420 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100608012105.GA5465@thought.org> <20100608025813.GA37407@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100608025813.GA37407@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:42:27 -0000 On 06/07/10 19:58, Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:21:11PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > >> i'v been having trouble upgrading stuff for the past n weeks. i >> just noticed that my web server won't build. or/when it does, it >> won't start. i just fired off /usr/local/sbin/apachetl -k start >> and get: >> >> >> >> httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of >> /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load >> /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so into server: Cannot open >> "/usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so" >> >> When i try to locate this file, i find it in apache/libphp5.so: >> >> >> root@ethic:/usr/local/sbin# locate php5.so >> /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so >> >> Can anybody explain the recent changes? i did read UPDATING, but >> didn't get that much out of it... >> >> > {*********************} > > > guys, i understand that it is 'improper' to reply to one's > own post, esp'ly the first reply, but i have discovered more > of what is ggoing on. > > First, i tried to start apache22 with the script in > /usr/local/etc/rc.d; same outcome, just same results are > starting the binary directly. nonetheless, i edited the > httpd.conf in /usr/local/etc/apache22. i corrected the > libphp.so directory to read 'apache' rather than 'apache22'. > > so the library is presumably loaded, then something else is > missing. i cannot find "ap_user_id"; neither locate nor a > recursive grep finds this string. > > when i exec the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 with 'configtest' > as an arg i get this: > > > Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration: > httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so: Undefined symbol "ap_user_id" > root@ethic:/usr/local/etc/rc.d# > > > question number one, which port builds the apache php5 > library? number two; is there one that will resolve the > missing 'ap_user_id'? > > several months ago i built a friend's website; he is is > contruction which is hurting; i figured having a website > might give him an edge. no .. this was gratis. not dime, > dollar, nor favor is involved. i would like to get apache up > for myself and my friend. gotta say that this port wasn't > handled very well in /usr/ports/UPDATING. OR, too, i may be > the idiot de jour. i only care that my webserver gets up > again, so thanks for any clues! > > gary > > > >> >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > the lang/php5 (or lang/php52) port builds the apache module. you will need to rebuild the php port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 05:59:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68D21065675 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3618FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o585xmuK033336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:59:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0DDC54.9040503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:59:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100608012105.GA5465@thought.org> <20100608025813.GA37407@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100608025813.GA37407@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:59:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 03:58:13, Gary Kline wrote: > question number one, which port builds the apache php5 > library? number two; is there one that will resolve the > missing 'ap_user_id'? Do you now, or did you once have apache13 installed on this machine? It sounds as if your lang/php5 port has linked against the wrong apache version. There have been some pretty important changes to the apache ports recently. Principally nowadays you have to have a separate devel/apr1 port installed, instead of defaulting to the one bundled with apache. See the 20100518 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. If you follow the instructions there to reinstall www/apache22, then reinstall lang/php5 and all php5- or pecl- modules it should work better. Optionally, you can add "APACHE_PORT= www/apache22" to /etc/make.conf but it should come right without having to do that. 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Olivier I know, I know, don't feed them, but I think it is the right time tio offer beasty a new home! :)) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 07:37:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EEF106566B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B308FC1E for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o587biue066074; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:37:43 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100608073742.GA7275@thought.org> References: <20100608012105.GA5465@thought.org> <20100608025813.GA37407@thought.org> <4C0DDC54.9040503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C0DDC54.9040503@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:37:49 -0000 On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 06:59:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/06/2010 03:58:13, Gary Kline wrote: > > question number one, which port builds the apache php5 > > library? number two; is there one that will resolve the > > missing 'ap_user_id'? > > Do you now, or did you once have apache13 installed on this machine? It > sounds as if your lang/php5 port has linked against the wrong apache > version. Yes, and it is beyond bizarre since i've been using apache22 since jan, '08. i've followed the instructions in UPDATING more than a dzn times since 6p.m. or so.... i finally looked [and Saw] that libphp5.so was going into apache22 rather than apache/; i.e.: /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so. i'm almost certain. it took more than three months late last summer -> fall to move my server off an ancient hp tower and into a duo-core dell. in the end i jmay have done a wholesale copy of the binaries and done many upgrades. hours ago i did indeed have to delete apache13. > > There have been some pretty important changes to the apache ports > recently. Principally nowadays you have to have a separate devel/apr1 > port installed, instead of defaulting to the one bundled with apache. Right. AS of 18may or so i guess the default is to use the portable runtime libs [pl]. prior to this i was not AFAIK. I keep the apache22 ports reasonably current by default, and had not realized that my last portmaster and portupgrades had gione awry. By sheer chance late afternoon i saw one of my tabs was labelled with "Error"... > See the 20100518 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. If you follow the > instructions there to reinstall www/apache22, then reinstall lang/php5 > and all php5- or pecl- modules it should work better. > > Optionally, you can add "APACHE_PORT= www/apache22" to /etc/make.conf > but it should come right without having to do that. > I hath donne that, Sire. {it may be a wee bit olde fashioned to used /etc/make.conf to write such in stone, but by the time apache22 is at, say, apache3x, i shall be long departed!} > Cheers, > si, and Proost or na zdravi! gary oh, and santay[sp?] > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkwN3FQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyuKACcCZOooVkGIULlKoxEo2rgvSdl > dHYAoIVSn4pL8vkvUj6dVbmldiC+3Eb9 > =bluo > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 07:56:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914F71065676 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563308FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABE51369F4 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:56:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 5046C105441F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:56:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.18.100] (playground.esiee.fr [147.215.18.100]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216281054418 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:56:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C0DF7B5.9080400@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:56:37 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100423 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Boosting up gigabit interface ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:56:39 -0000 Hello Does some anyone could give me a path to boost up the flow between a server and a Cisco 3750 switch if possible (jumbo frames ? ) ? The server is an IBM X3650 ( 7.2-RELEASE) with two Broadcom gigabit interfaces. ifconfig give that parameters : bce0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=1bb ether 00:14:5e:dc:44:8e inet 147.215.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 147.215.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active the server is directly attached to the Cisco switch Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 10:46:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93985106566B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from akashb503@yahoo.co.in) Received: from n8-vm0.bullet.mail.in.yahoo.com (n8-vm0.bullet.mail.in.yahoo.com [202.86.4.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C63418FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.86.5.126] by n8.bullet.mail.in.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2010 10:46:04 -0000 Received: from [203.104.18.55] by t6.bullet.mail.in.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2010 10:46:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp107.mail.in2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2010 10:46:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 438788.38870.bm@omp107.mail.in2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21131 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2010 10:46:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.in; s=s1024; t=1275993964; bh=QYA9Vh+YSQeQYkRNvdDGYZJilTDCzf3x8bFDtvmXCP8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DsQla03CIsTc7jkcVgkD/yLX63Jj5mVMwd4vJLk+d7Kysn/HroDDXpSpjU0/r4bi/+U0bF62J6qExIe5AhgA3QDQCG6wF5PK2gfoD8qbW319gNme0WMzSpTE8I3TtsiEDwcXakGIP+qDsRsxF2gQao/uOaU/fNrFOEwzZrQZBeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.in; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2x7rMXmY3AWRT/3RVQjEi1RyCXjpbKuHsLavO2G2+2izeOf2xN4/dZcO/cDI88+OFyhGtQz3sJ2lI8+TEAehW2GSdMWCa6lfOdQlUEtqhPjOS2n0UsGtI45TSrv+NgP4YGdc6iTnYYL/6VfJiA166shGbOjs9NMi4j9XJze1GC8=; Message-ID: <274113.20639.qm@web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sTjk0QMVM1lxFSCeDxKuyikhEcNkjCZXQ0lLiY0n83UGaIo .wNyKAzS1rt_abFM_P1vAA3.a7AOn1AK_yl2hPYWeMog7IB0K.h6mgtbfIuK DujsR6ODySsAqqjnLfOlYJa5aeons1puuPTSMDnYxcGwYr3MDiEu5mmFHsdg pirjlhQFYkpNbX9h37OEnrSoIotDkJqrqQ0ykQYiiCO72CVDVQdLWtkw._I. VBCUOCNxemGbZ Received: from [122.181.19.78] by web95109.mail.in2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:16:03 IST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/397.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 References: <629087.29185.qm@web95103.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <4C06171E.2070608@a1poweruser.com> <382060.97070.qm@web95103.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:16:03 +0530 (IST) From: akash kumar To: "C. P. Ghost" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minicom freebsd 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:46:06 -0000 Hi,=0A=0AFinally worked for me. Thanks all for your help.=0ABelow are the s= teps.=0A=0A1. /var/log/messages has below message when ever usb port is ins= erted. =0A> Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product* 0x5523* bus uhub2 = =0A=0A2. grepping for vendor no. =0A> grep 0x4348 /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/* = =0A/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs:vendor WCH 0x4348 QinHeng Electro= nics =0A=0A> cat /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs | grep WCH =0Avendor WCH = 0x4348 QinHeng Electronics =0A/* WCH products */ =0Aproduct WCH CH341= SER *0x5523 * CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge =0Aproduct WCH2 CH341S= ER 0x7523 CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge =0A=0A=0A3. After bit of = googling with 'CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge', found that specific module i= s missing.=0A Added uchcom in to the config file and rebuilt the kernel an= d booted =0Awith it. =0A> kldstat -v | grep uchcom =0A 309 uhub/uchco= m =0A=0A4. After rebooting could see below messages i.e device being recogn= ized =0Aas the module is already present =0Augen2.3: at usb= us2 =0Aucom0: on usbus2 =0A= ucom0: CH340 detected =0A=0AThe device is created with name /dev/cuaU0 and= it worked finally with minicom. =0A=0A=0AThanks,=0AAkash.=0A=0A=0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0AFrom: C. P. Ghost =0ATo: = akash kumar =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AS= ent: Wed, 2 June, 2010 3:36:54 PM=0ASubject: Re: minicom freebsd 8.0=0A=0AO= n Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, akash kumar wrote:= =0A> Hi,=0A>=0A> I was referring to minicom command similar to one on linux= .=0A> On linux the config file is /etc/minirc. and the Serial = Device is /dev/ttyUSB0, which was working for me.=0A> On freebsd the conf= ig file is /usr/local/etc/minicom/minirc., but not sure what to= update in the field 'pu port'.=0A>=0A> I tried with /dev/ugen2.2 but got b= elow error=0A>> minicom: cannot open /dev/ugen2.2: Permission denied=0A>=0A= > Please let me know what needs to be updated in the 'pu port' field.=0A=0A= Ah, okay. ugen is a generic device. I think you can't use that directly=0Ai= f you have a usb-to-serial converter.=0A=0AI guess you need to kldload a ke= rnel module specific to your usb-to-serial=0Aconverter. For example somethi= ng like uplcom, umodem etc. This would=0Acreate a new entry in /dev that yo= u can use in minicom.=0A=0APermissions for those devices can be set in /etc= /devfs.rules (and restarting=0Adevfs with /etc/rc.d/devfs restart). You may= also want to look at /etc/devd.conf=0A=0AI'm not familiar with usb-to-seri= al converters, so I can't help more than that.=0AOthers may have more exper= ience there.=0A=0A> Thanks,=0A> Akash.=0A=0A-cpghost.=0A=0A-- =0ACordula's = Web. http://www.cordula.ws/=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 12:11:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A38B1065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B38FC29 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180C136E28 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:11:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 87BA4105441A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:11:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.18.100] (playground.esiee.fr [147.215.18.100]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF3E1054419 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:11:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C0E336B.6090207@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:11:23 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100423 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:11:25 -0000 Hello All since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu related but I am a bit confused in it. Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill himself when it trap that kind of error messages. Thank you Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721 usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528 usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928 usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241 usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373 usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556 usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152 usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287 usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711 usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325 usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246 usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572 usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 13:11:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3921065672 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C251B8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi11 with SMTP id 11so731290wyi.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:11:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.137.143 with SMTP id w15mr100879wbt.117.1276002685610; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.167.137 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:11:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C0E336B.6090207@esiee.fr> References: <4C0E336B.6090207@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:11:25 +0200 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: Frank Bonnet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:11:27 -0000 This may be of help: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-2805.html Cheers, Antonio 2010/6/8 Frank Bonnet : > Hello All > > since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages > > The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu > related but I am a bit confused in it. > > Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages > if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill > himself when it trap that kind of error messages. > > > Thank you > > > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721 > usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528 > usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928 > usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241 > usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373 > usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556 > usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152 > usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287 > usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 use= c > to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711 > usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 use= c > to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 use= c > to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325 > usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246 > usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event) > Jun =A08 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572 > usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 13:55:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA651065675 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD1C8FC2A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2291F1E972; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:55:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o58DteRB001487; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:55:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:55:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100608155540.2059f852.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100608042804.GB33797@guilt.hydra> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608042804.GB33797@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:55:44 -0000 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can edit the PDF file... :-) Just a friendly sidenote: > On > the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text > if they "must" have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as > DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after > making some changes. You are aware that there is not "the" DOC format? The many various "Word" programs use slightly different formats, and rendering a document heavily depends on the current environment "Word" is running in, e. g. which fonts are installed, even which printer is installed - all this can have influence on how the document is opened. Furthermore, the DOCX format isn't really an open format. It *claims* to be standardized, but it's not; even MICROS~1 didn't implement it properly, and there are still blobs inside the XML, which can lead to problems. There are many problems you can encounter in import/export settings. So the only way to be sure is to use a standardized format. I've worked in a setting where interoperability was the main goal, because there were BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and even "Windows" machines, and our choice was OpenOffice, which worked excellently across the platforms. It wouldn't have been possible with MICROS~1 binary garbage in between. :-) > I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the > rarity, rather than me being the odd man out. It *will* happen, just consider the costs and the growing uncomfortability of those programs (not counting those who regularly use pirated copies to have "the same pictures at home" as they know them from work). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 13:59:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA141106566C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408998FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so4586847wwb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n34fDr3oFSCobFcZKXsJjTN4mmsc54anvB5jKfbpAhA=; b=g1zP7UoB+wHGitlgTzTgvnjarZfa/vgn2V6dNSqv84SFDEc181bL6cx2rdoLQMTFkC B8xKhDH2NG8V2cLUhAUE2QEx+nKkCMcDbWb3du8vjgh7JsezIqIJ5k4zHiz7fltWNkWT ZTLHESS/JKtwpoP02NF0TYjC4BnfxqFl/9V/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BdQCKEhdfgV1GRgbVolkGfWdSYuQudzVLPbMs0S5lKX6lkjyL5EgRZkstajQRW8zCq RtYqQtriw6YHVtmLjkvpiWKdK4f2eIW/W808Q3ULtdWaujVq8L4aaVdvEghss2It6+qE TJpMC151sgW0/tTne2XeObuH7c+MycWlbDRLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.128.129 with SMTP id k1mr1187250wbs.32.1276005580222; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +0000 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:59:41 -0000 hello, i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about the flags. in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not. is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on ports. thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:02:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6931065676 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D594A8FC18 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so4590128wwb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nCmsSp6Z16pvxxG86kBobAsTAv7SNwdiwMBf57kOaRQ=; b=YckrnUm5bQc+uNt531QZW9Gt/yRb1aUxzabusqst354jki429S38rKIGm9mm79F56X FwrDUfnyJchCScYMEHxQKftuV41Rp1rFliglqzcqHFxp0jPq+L/CF5Eh50MqhGGeDR4Y +4YB4sU7xZP77EKrwWCS1OwtWJ7OnwUktF97M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YB8Dc7fEeF8VwYld0wQCoUDWUBjOQWydvJ2LF4nXusGMaGO9q6LggYnwtLrXPQwf8a pd6QMBZ0hjMZDuMY3GeskT0PEVWhBNULoQlqwzhX7I4u9+QzWocz3XDRcYlhm45iL/aK kn9sgX/hc24IqlrNobJpWskhVGW/ll3DNn7Yw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.3 with SMTP id d3mr3219776wef.110.1276005743774; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: which lang Freebsd developers are using. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:02:25 -0000 hello, i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use. in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in FreeBSD which language do they use? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:16:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8DF1065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90FB8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:16:55 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBANrrDUykD30E/2dsb2JhbAAHgxbJF5B/hChuBIcC Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2010 16:16:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4C0E373F.7060400@ulb.ac.be> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:27:43 +0200 From: Julien Cigar Organization: Belgian Biodiversity Platform User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20100309) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000603040302050003040303" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:16:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000603040302050003040303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit some ports have OPTIONS, then you can use make config / make config-recursive (man ports) others don't, then you can set them in /etc/make.conf, for example : jcigar@frodon ~ % cat /etc/make.conf WITHOUT_APACHE="YES" WITHOUT_IPV6="YES" #WITHOUT_NLS="YES" WITHOUT_KDE="YES" WITHOUT_GNOME="YES" .if ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/rxvt-unicode} WITHOUT_AFTERIMAGE="yes" .endif .if ${.CURDIR:M*/editors/vim} WITH_GTK2="yes" .endif (of course you can always use make -DWITH_FOO -DWITHOUT_BAR clean install clean) regards, Julien Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine. > ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about > the flags. > > in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine > which flags i wanted to enable and which not. > > is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on > ports. > > thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --------------000603040302050003040303-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:17:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700301065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA7E8FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4C01372F2 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 9221B105443D for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.18.100] (playground.esiee.fr [147.215.18.100]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CEE1054419 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:16:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C0E50D9.90207@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:16:57 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100423 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C0E336B.6090207@esiee.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:17:00 -0000 OK thank you Antonio :-) On 06/08/2010 03:11 PM, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > This may be of help: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-2805.html > > Cheers, > Antonio > > 2010/6/8 Frank Bonnet : >> Hello All >> >> since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages >> >> The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu >> related but I am a bit confused in it. >> >> Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages >> if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill >> himself when it trap that kind of error messages. >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721 >> usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528 >> usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928 >> usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241 >> usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373 >> usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556 >> usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152 >> usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287 >> usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec >> to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711 >> usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec >> to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec >> to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325 >> usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246 >> usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572 >> usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper) >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:17:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DB21065764 for ; 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Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.54.211 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.54.211 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:17:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:17:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which lang Freebsd developers are using. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:17:06 -0000 Which part of the system? Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote. There's a bug report on it! On 8 Jun 2010 15:03, "Giorgos Tsiapaliokas" wrote: hello, i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use. in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in FreeBSD which language do they use? thanks _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:18:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594EC106566B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190228FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1051E6C9; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:18:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o58EIoB7001565; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:18:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:18:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100608161850.566bf6b9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:18:52 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine. > ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about > the flags. > > in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine > which flags i wanted to enable and which not. > > is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on > ports. I'm not perfectly clear on what you intend to question, but if you want to know how to tetermine options for a certain port, "make config" is used to set them. Various port management software is also able to store predefined options for port compilation in a central control file. In order to find out more about ports, read "man ports" as it explains everything very well. There are also flags that are defined in /etc/make.conf, like CFLAGS. Some ports allow setting OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS, e. g. mplayer. You may be more clear in providing an example (example port and flags, received message). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:19:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6782F1065745 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 294A78FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 41116 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2010 14:19:01 -0000 Received: from ack5833s2.ad.service.osu.edu (bdsfbsd@128.146.175.36 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Jun 2010 07:19:01 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: 0msE5Q8VM1mzmdhFvKdkm8APgpJLyeYNAHofXU.E6tNON5ys6AIYbmmEv2.BgwhorS_M6u0NkckCSDvuYNojV1yc.nrZBuPa0rJHE64gbiuocRnzOQVSg2Z2wsb.XyV7Syz5AFbtpv8bvPJKGVzxTxBtrITlD96LVLBxRZaobh9OEpv7vtCCQWnZEkVFqd0.mNQQXFDPBqy6_o3boY1VNtmh1yzwzEq9MeM1krTp8VWHzcQk3hnbLkrZwlWIbYgp7a1SW11Dqhl5XaPu2ubDdJjucAkxw9.3eIvh X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20100607160834.6f34972f@scorpio> <73E194E2-9945-4733-AFBA-4591CEAB8790@mac.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:19:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <73E194E2-9945-4733-AFBA-4591CEAB8790@mac.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.53 (Win32) Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:19:02 -0000 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:24:47 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote: > [ ... ] >> I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a >> serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist >> within the FreeBSD framework. > > That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running > FF+Java under Linux emulation. > [ ... ] High-level religious arguments aside, could we get a little advice the for newbie who wants to try using FreeBSD, but needs Java to work with Firefox? (As this is the 'questions' list, and not the 'debate what fBSD devs ought to be working on' list.) Here's what I know, for posterity sake.. Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1] For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8. That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3] There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and linux-sun-jdk: diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9 openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9) jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)") linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20 It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9. I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?', as I find that confusing. Thanks, Brian [1] http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml [2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jre [3] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jdk&sektion=java [4] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux-firefox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:21:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB701065670 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006858FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A7C1DE59; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o58EL7t7001572; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:21:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:21:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100608162107.e70ae18a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which lang Freebsd developers are using. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:21:09 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:23 +0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use. > > in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in > FreeBSD which language do they use? All of them. :-) The base system, for example, contains large portions of C. It also has several parts of sh scripts (FreeBSD's default scripting shell is the bourne shell, /bin/sh), as well as awk and m4 scripts. Oh, and it uses the english language for text. :-) There are various projects on FreeBSD, and many programming languages. And as they exist, they are used. It's not that FreeBSD is based upon _one_ programming or scripting language. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:22:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9879106566B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85718FC26 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16824 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2010 14:22:25 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Jun 2010 14:22:25 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6EF7850825; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Frank Bonnet References: <4C0E336B.6090207@esiee.fr> <4C0E50D9.90207@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:22:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4C0E50D9.90207@esiee.fr> (Frank Bonnet's message of "Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:16:57 +0200") Message-ID: <44zkz5d2ow.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:22:27 -0000 Frank Bonnet writes: > OK thank you Antonio :-) Also, see the FAQ entry if you haven't already. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:40:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FD3106567C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0988A8FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:40:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DT5lrGikL/lNZzMKzbmp3iVCACewI9NZ3q1CIi1KGbI= c=1 sm=0 a=qU5ZuYy1v4MA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=64iin7ZDX+lUS8OB6KzQoA==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=ePsyhcdrAAAA:8 a=S8axSxkADEkA8f4zpOEA:9 a=NnGSk0ANuCCS7RXHTSKF4hFcW_UA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=tdcimCivwKkA:10 a=DHLnijt-JETsSYP5:21 a=4MlybW1ORBeEoXSP:21 a=64iin7ZDX+lUS8OB6KzQoA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.150.184.250 Received: from [98.150.184.250] ([98.150.184.250:14045] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id CF/09-29882-0765E0C4; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:40:49 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417F25C63; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:43:43 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o58Ehg9n005478; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:43:42 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 04:43:42 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:40:50 -0000 in message , wrote Alejandro Imass thusly... > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden > >> wrote: ... > >> > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office > >> > suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it > >> > up and open a spreadsheet. > >> > >> There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took > >> minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? > > > > I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) > > with 4GB would be considered "lo (sic) hardware". Everything > > else runs very quickly, even Windows 7 in VirtualBox. OOo is the > > only time I find myself waiting impatiently. ... > Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation, > and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE > 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem > is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & simple Excel files? It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU) ... avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB) ... ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s (5400 rpm) "pkg_info -rx openoffice | sort -fu" shows ... 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:50:39 -0000 On 8 June 2010 14:47, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands, > > /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make install clean > > after these commands,the kde package "asked" me which flags i want to use. > > with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and > when i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some > flags. > > can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation > of the packages? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 14:54:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5031065670 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D518FC26 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o58Es9WE085363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:54:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4C0E5994.8020101@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:54:12 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100608161850.566bf6b9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:54:10 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: o58Es9WE085363 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:54:18 -0000 On 6/8/2010 9:50 AM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > On 8 June 2010 14:47, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > >> for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands, >> >> /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make install clean >> >> after these commands,the kde package "asked" me which flags i want to use. >> >> with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and >> when i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some >> flags. >> >> can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation >> of the packages? >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3718 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:02:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DE2106564A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D7C8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D942B3D7CA; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:01:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o58F1mBx001726; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:01:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:01:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100608170147.b2375bf7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20100608161850.566bf6b9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:02:09 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:47:29 +0000, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands, > > /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make install clean > > after these commands,the kde package "asked" me which flags i want to use. This is okay. As long as options haven't been defined before, they are asked for interactively. For subsequent builds, they are stored. > with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and when > i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some flags. A typical "problem", the solution is easy: "make config-recursive" will ask you PRIOR to any compiling for a specific port and its dependencies. Before knowing about this fine mechanism, I also was very annoyed of this forced interaction that stopped the building process many times. :-) The packages you can install via pkg_add have been compiled using default options, which may or may not fit your particular needs. > can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation > of the packages? I mentioned "make config-recursive", but there are also tools like portmaster, portmanager and portupgrade that allow you to "remote- control" the ports system in a comfortable way. There are other make targets that may be interesting, such as the simple "make config", or "make rmconfig" and its recursive variant. See "man 7 ports" for a list of all available targets. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:16:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1D3106567C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6397D8FC24 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM0Pr-0006IN-3W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:08:36 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:16:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:16:03 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100608151603.GB32431@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:16:11 -0000 On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > > >[...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that > >I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using > >some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different > >format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd > >like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when > >I must. > > I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and > really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo > foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, > so... > That's great -- I'll have to remember that one. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:21:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19831065679 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9423F8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A5655C89; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:20:47 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-ID: <20100608162047.00001b96@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:21:04 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +0000 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my > machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive > messages about the flags. > > in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to > determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not. > > is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is > based on ports. The only similar mechanism is /etc/make.conf where you can put flags such as USE_X11=yes or USE_GTK2=yes in order to build ports with X11 or Gtk2 support. Unlike Gentoo there's no central repository of valid flags. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 15:39:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39174106564A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C02D8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o58FdQfm003179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:39:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0E642D.5040907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:39:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass , FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:39:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 15:43:42, parv@pair.com wrote: > Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package > without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & > simple Excel files? > > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window > after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... > > Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > ... > avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB) > ... > ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s > (5400 rpm) I wonder about that. I'm sure there are quite a few pkgs where some of the registered dependencies are really optional, and the same pkg would work either with or without them. I know that databases/phpMyAdmin, which I maintain is like that. I did spend some time reading up on 'pkg_add -M' and 'pkg_add -S' -- in theory it should be possible to use pkg_add -M to extract the pkg contents, feed that into the stdin of a script, which pops up a dialogue allowing you to make those choices, edits the pkg on the way past and then feeds it to 'pkg_add -S' for final installation. Can't see how to force something like that to happen from a normal invocation of pkg_add(1) though. Would be a nice addition -- you could also emulate NOPORTDOCS and NOPORTEXAMPLES, except entirely with pkgs that way. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwOZC0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSRQCfV1yFrs2zzeI2RRC6qg4EJdzT BYAAnRbLFM6VWVb6dhY4G6NAWAvoFn2G =Oms2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 16:22:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE924106566B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C91A8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2352824ewy.34 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:22:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.194 with SMTP id n2mr550985ebc.16.1276014143039; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.27.211 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.42.139] In-Reply-To: References: <20100607104630.EA5FA1065741@hub.freebsd.org> <20100608003222.A27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20100607160834.6f34972f@scorpio> <73E194E2-9945-4733-AFBA-4591CEAB8790@mac.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:22:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: bdsfbsd@att.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:22:24 -0000 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1] > > For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the > ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update > 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is > diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8. > > That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3] > There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and > linux-sun-jdk: > > diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9 > openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9) > jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on > 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)") > linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20 The problem is that java/jdk16 hasn't been updated for a LONG time. I gave up hope that it will be updated, and I've had to install java/openjdk6 instead, just to be able to start Freenet (from http://freenetproject.org/), because Freenet wouldn't start otherwise due to some big XML vulnerability in our old not yet updated java/jdk16. Maybe the problem is similar with Firefox 3.6? > It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for > Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If > so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this > time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9. > > > I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an > older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK > version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally > along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know > around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?', > as I find that confusing. > > Thanks, > Brian -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 17:51:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515381065676 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162A88FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o58HpTBg002533 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100608175125.GA24521@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:51:33 -0000 anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2585. seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but beyond that, i'm wedged. i would like to install dspam *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work. not entirely sure how to make that happen. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 18:05:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD488106567B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57ED8FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (h-74-2-96-2.chcgilgm.static.covad.net [74.2.96.2]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84A7E28424; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C0E8672.7010507@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:05:38 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100508 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4C0C9DCC.1030507@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:05:40 -0000 On 06/07/2010 08:03 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's >> based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of >> this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's >> diminutive stature is quite cute. >> >> The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming >> propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131 >> ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as >> displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it >> will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface >> is going UP and DOWN, then continue. > > If it's like the alc setup on an Acer Aspire One D250, the 10/100 alc > chip is used with a 10/100/1000 Atheros PHY. Don't remember the exact > symptoms, but it only worked right after manually setting the media to > 100baseTX. That was on a gigabit network, but might also help with no > cable connected. > > Rebuilding the kernel without the alc device ought to also work, but is > less elegant. I'm fairly certain it's gigabit the whole way, as I get transfer rates greater than 12 megabytes per second. Unfortunately, forcing the phy to 100baseTX/full-duplex does not alter the symptoms at all, and just makes transfers slower. On one of the tests, issuing a shutdown -p after unplugging the ethernet cord caused it to panic and reboot at the point it usually freezes, and thereafter freeze during startup when running netif; I wasn't able to copy down the panic info, though, as the reboot happened within half a second. Alas, this box lacks obvious serial ports. I may investigate building the kernel without the alc device, though, and see if unloading the kld prior to shutdown allows the system to continue past that point. Thanks for the suggestions! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 18:14:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB32D106566C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75118FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OM3Jn-0008UG-Pc; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:14:32 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0074108FC5; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C0E8882.1050600@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:14:26 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20100608162047.00001b96@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100608162047.00001b96@unknown> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Cc: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:14:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +0000 > Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > >> hello, >> >> i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my >> machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive >> messages about the flags. >> >> in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to >> determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not. >> >> is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is >> based on ports. > > The only similar mechanism is /etc/make.conf where you can put flags > such as USE_X11=yes or USE_GTK2=yes in order to build ports with X11 or > Gtk2 support. Unlike Gentoo there's no central repository of valid > flags. > Have you looked at /usr/ports/KNOBS? There a large number of system-level configuration options in there, and you can set them in /etc/make.conf or on the make command line. For instance, I use the following /etc/make.conf entries when I'm building ports for headless servers with minimal extra installed files: WITHOUT_X11=yes WITHOUT_NLS=yes NOPORTDOCS=yes NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes The entries in KNOBS are enabled/disabled with WITH_=yes or WITHOUT_=yes instead of USE_. USE_* directives are typically included in port Makefiles to indicate a dependency on a certain package, e.g.: USE_MYSQL= yes # This port depends on MySQL client There's are more details on all of this here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/makefile-options.html Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMDoiC0sRouByUApARAkPBAKDDZRJPuakRFqp1olkMnYV7r1etDwCfZe5s dALMLBb6J2XfTzDPN5CRgP0= =YqHl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 19:28:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749741065679 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCFD8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so4952468wwb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:28:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=waSWwt3UCqLBm0VbYPsPtwEJP9pW3207G5YzNrgnU78=; b=eD/XRAbUeySFqsSSvTYyleoSPncgDdA4v14BHiqaSbupAy2Lh2z3po8WoqEEPTQgFr jAlLPzothn6zmGrBzTM7Mdq27qy4QexUWcuHPtbfOF24yQote42g/3xJV7awoQ/x4GV9 WdZGIYGv0RrDqC+xiaed7pwhagqyUYNRtyNoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=DSmxn1VhT2meCa0AVIvLiPuACWjb5pvHTMTxgOxfKf7hwd0BDAjdLpymcBuLQj4575 90NFxdtNM2Ftef/GKpFh6RRub2N/aTYeEHNrBuq/8UCCGTUxKjgt9ZgiSo72EMyEcEgI e77aYp3S5VNNkLUHuiuYPhrBEyjg7MvwvqWyU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.69.213 with SMTP id a21mr1372859wbj.220.1276025278682; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.5 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:27:58 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:28:01 -0000 Just to clarify some of the earlier comments, the ports knobs that can be used to define certain build options are automatically persistent only if the knobs are defined as part of the OPTIONS framework, and if you don't subsequently delete the /var/db/port/*/options files, either directly or via the rmconfig target. You can reset the values of these knobs by re-running the config target. If you do that, it is usually best to run rmconfig first, because obsolete knobs aren't cleared by config, and can clutter up the options files, and thus your build environment. The first time you build a port, and every time thereafter that the available OPTIONS are changed for a port, you will be prompted to reconfigure, unless you set BATCH in your build environment, either directly or via switches in portmaster or portupgrade -- in which case a prior choice for a knob setting will be used, if you have made one, or the default value, if you have not. There are also some knobs that are _not_ OPTIONS, and so must be defined in the build environment each time the port is built/installed/packaged. These knobs are usually either knobs that were meant to be used for a lot of ports (e.g. WITHOUT_X11), or knobs from older ports that weren't converted to the OPTIONS framework, or experimental/maintainer knobs that the maintainer didn't want to expose for wider use. You can find these, for example, by visual inspection of the port Makefiles, by using sed/grep/awk on the port Makefiles, or by using something like the ports-mgmt/portsopt port. You can make these knobs persistent by using the ports-mgmt/portconf port, or the more complicated sysutils/penv port, or by adding them to pkgtools.conf(5) from the ports-mgmt/portupgrade* ports, or by adding them to some included makefile. /etc/make.conf exists partly for this purpose. But it is used for all invocations of make by default, even for the base system and for other software that is not in ports, so it is a good idea to limit the scope of your knob settings in this file by making the definitions conditional, in order to avoid polluting other builds. You can do this, for example, by using statements like: .if${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/*} #insert knobs for all ports here WITHOUT_FOO=yes .endif .if${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/devel/bar*} #insert knobs for the devel/bar port here WITHOUT_BAR_DEBUG=yes .endif or by using other makefile directives. (This assumes of course, that you haven't changed PORTSDIR to be something other than /usr/ports.) It usually takes some time and effort to determine which settings are best for you, for all of your ports, if you need to customize them -- so be patient. And if you really liked Portage, there is an experimental project to use Portage on FreeBSD (although I'm not sure whether this means stock FreeBSD, or a hybrid system with a FreeBSD kernel and GNU/LInux userland) that you may want to monitor: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/index.xml b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 19:31:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44495106567E for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBCD8FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so4956778wwb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:31:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=gaBuvxiGlxAjiIAEQKG6YQkDu9y9w5JXQe7db0nFcZU=; b=OHCTJCuaIBSrPXJgs+0QvIaY3kSmUyZcBGqyURy0qVejJ1nCWiwEuPUffj96R58yj1 Az2Bbpj9RQ2aFjs/Pc/PQlCVnwRhi9IGXKZzDSze34sMGMF1lgrs2Ve1ofppMb3EQ5or 12jp6DvEoxNIHNdi23Pa7eQzsC9P9zQqlMMRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=PAqF96zVI8XMS8iv12ETfMIPYqJ0qKgYkOlt5cgQSQfwT1QLYXxkgskbigLctgpCze QnedYXFTtDd1bMJ7NJ453/X3zaAlXYjm2VgrpuSmnhcfU3S6SqI2jycMrVwXKSOQtAeU mSpXAF2UTsYDVr7rk7cETXKIaAKc7nuU6dins= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.155.213 with SMTP id t21mr1817946wbw.66.1276025487797; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.5 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:31:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:31:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can i use flags at once? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:31:30 -0000 On 6/8/10, b. f. wrote: > Just to clarify some of the earlier comments, the ports knobs that can > be used to define certain build options are automatically persistent > only if the knobs are defined as part of the OPTIONS framework, and if > you don't subsequently delete the /var/db/port/*/options files, either Oops: that should be: /var/db/ports/*/options. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 21:16:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C701065678 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pg.devbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20448FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so5071273wwb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:16:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9y2BYu3COVem4hI8ZzF6ybgHnCUvU34NqydFxYHoUPI=; b=ORi+bdFmvsMwCBs51Wh4cFJQ2NbG44hNFKubN77F0V9XLQsfrkW44/6P1yZG/ZTwAQ x4ESMvElb9oNdzuntPsut0dOv7ZMA+fL3Iuib4yXn5cIJdANhvr+43dJzApquB7rblc+ /q8Fq+I1IjfClODvKjJ5er3Wgx1IinoiU3uq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JEXEORweRPEhLlvCZjKzi0Ez0WvAebXPU9Skz/eTkhft+rYS9PMiNw9Z8iMA09m3/k Cpkym2J5Xb4RCxCD44kJFOGIjS7w37+ZFI+B/5hYg4G+b/peI+1uosOsED4Km3qjgZaF qSpeRbHdnL2vuEpkoiy3SjVG/52AnPLbnvKqo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.18 with SMTP id y18mr124257wbt.198.1276030463392; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.201 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Grzyb?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: dbus_enable and hald_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:16:37 -0000 Hello everybody, can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? Regards, Pawel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 21:29:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02871065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCF68FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8D53D3BB; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o58LTcAL003189; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=C5=82?= Grzyb Message-Id: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:29:47 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200, PaweÅ‚ Grzyb wrote: > Hello everybody, > > can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and > hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? Those enable the startup of the DBUS and HAL services via their control files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Those services are often needed for X, and programs related to X (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, and many programs that have "Use DBUS for something" compile time options set). Sadly, those don't provide "man dbus" or "man hal" in a very impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on the web, but it may already be outdated. If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) Removing the entries in /etc/rc.conf may cause problems for some of your programs, or may even make your X stop working properly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 21:47:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EED106566B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278388FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2010 17:47:40 -0400 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.8-GA) with ESMTP id LRZ63868; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2010 17:47:38 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19470.47739.4120.227032@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:47:39 -0400 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=C5=82?= Grzyb Subject: Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:47:41 -0000 Polytropon writes: > > can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and > > hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? > > Sadly, those don't provide "man dbus" or "man hal" in a very > impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on > the web, but it may already be outdated. Try "man hald". > If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what > to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) I believe they involved with plug-and-play devices. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 21:49:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928A81065672 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7022B8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02A5B5C84; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:49:23 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100608224923.00005fbc@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=C5=82?= Grzyb Subject: Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:49:39 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200, Pawe=C5=82 Grzyb > wrote: > > Hello everybody, > >=20 > > can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable=3D"YES" and > > hald_enable=3D"YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? >=20 > Those enable the startup of the DBUS and HAL services via their > control files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Those services are often > needed for X, and programs related to X (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, and > many programs that have "Use DBUS for something" compile time > options set). >=20 > Sadly, those don't provide "man dbus" or "man hal" in a very > impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on > the web, but it may already be outdated. >=20 > If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what > to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) I believe HAL will be going away fairly soon, with its functionality being merged into udev on Linux. --=20 Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 22:05:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2851065673 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pg.devbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AAB8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so36365wyb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:05:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=J6M144xlWXENLeQn6Xnfmyuv4aQs11wpO7vj0a7zxkU=; b=WA0aI3+Zy2pUdXSkHCXPGJsuCPIM1bpuT4rsIbyCvLZLIHlvmIT9AB6DSKn1p0QO2G AY0SqCkRGgg7en3Wus5W/199rmYpirdeuzwd6TCdTDn1S6RbtZi+IDuYeZJc5XRc8Evj ydWZ0BLsQHC0XbNCE1ZVN1HU8OFsATpe/98sY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fJL++3bMOAOBzqb1Kd7A22oDRvcQzVo20ASxIowzrOuNfmCdfRuLon4JskJM7pmO2G GOsJRSQHo3YIZM8OEI1XDFC4jbPaksqaBv2rW3bzGyWdbDlQxrUn2t2vYOAZOnq3a7UN DadbgoFEgSnzxLUytxQFwuU+SgwTq/2C0zjGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.155.81 with SMTP id r17mr488042wbw.128.1276034729826; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.201 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:05:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:05:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Grzyb?= To: Paul Schmehl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:05:31 -0000 Thank you for your help! Regards, Pawel W dniu 8 czerwca 2010 23:57 u=BFytkownik Paul Schmehl < pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> napisa=B3: > --On Tuesday, June 08, 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon > wrote: > >> >> If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what >> to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) >> >> > hald is an interface between devices and programs. It listens for > attachment/detachment of input devices (keyboard, mouse, etc.) and inform= s > listening programs of those events. > > dbus is an interprocess communication system that allows programs to > connect to and exchange messages with other programs. It allows the kern= el, > for example, to interact with your desktop. Rather than you interacting > directly with the kernel, dbus acts as a middle man, controlling the > communications between the two and only allowing you to perform actions > which are considered "safe" or "reasonable". > > The two work together, for example, to let your desktop know when you > connect a new mouse or type on your keyboard. > > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > ******************************************* > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 22:26:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DC11065677 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=768b5a515=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-001.utdallas.edu (ip-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0938FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:26:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: None X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAItZDkyBbgogUmdsb2JhbACeUAEkQb9VhRYEg0c X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,386,1272862800"; d="scan'208";a="33806387" Received: from zxtm01.utdallas.edu (HELO utd65257.utdallas.edu) ([129.110.10.32]) by ip-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 08 Jun 2010 16:57:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:57:34 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Polytropon , =?UTF-8?Q?Pawe=C5=82_Grzyb?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20100608232938.d213f9aa.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:26:13 -0000 --On Tuesday, June 08, 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what > to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) > hald is an interface between devices and programs. It listens for attachment/detachment of input devices (keyboard, mouse, etc.) and informs listening programs of those events. dbus is an interprocess communication system that allows programs to connect to and exchange messages with other programs. It allows the kernel, for example, to interact with your desktop. Rather than you interacting directly with the kernel, dbus acts as a middle man, controlling the communications between the two and only allowing you to perform actions which are considered "safe" or "reasonable". The two work together, for example, to let your desktop know when you connect a new mouse or type on your keyboard. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 22:47:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4131065670 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6DA8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2441808ewy.34 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:46:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E/1PTz0zd49OIZ59BXLQB7dhxQK8vyyc7zbCaVU/I/A=; b=kJBBO5+Ix8eDi6t8sK89h8+qsJer1FBDwN4Ay+Z/6C9TMFLutViQBa1UlT2NpbXIIa qltTJjdI6gYrAJvE+dhKH0Hf2AzcjX8D1tT0YnHN2z7UTOPcfNfrkKSi/1Tccb1jvUmi j52Y0W9id8lXcdOscD2bHwxRKcXvPUQqpN1KM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ql/CJpMCqn1LKFobw2yvk29zmRI7Dp0M+7xwZrx/KHPjnHvwYIy1m2J8TwUAkm3buY YmC+gFNfCSc++xQr1aX84TJe2WvjDGEMvjq5fBE7tI8+g1hKCWH5QBaPlic+Lvl20D3I D6+0zKo195yoj7fgtJPu4wea373OdqDpcba4c= Received: by 10.213.27.145 with SMTP id i17mr939228ebc.35.1276037218466; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm3667296ewy.7.2010.06.08.15.46.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:46:54 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100608234654.649b8d0c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20100608175125.GA24521@thought.org> References: <20100608175125.GA24521@thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:47:00 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? > > child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling > production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line > 2585. This was discussed on the ports list some time ago - I don't think they came to any real conclusion. Someone said that sa-update had solved it, someone fixed it by deleting and then reinstalling relevant ports. > seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but > beyond that, i'm wedged. i would like to install dspam > *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work. not entirely > sure how to make that happen. The easiest way to do that is to pipe it though dspam dspam --stdout --deliver=innocent,spam and then add an SA header test like: header DS_SPAM X-DSPAM-Result =~ /^Spam/ tflags DS_SPAM learn score DS_SPAM 3.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 23:18:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039DF106566C for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75C18FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o58NIqWZ023012; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:18:51 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20100608231851.GA2700@thought.org> References: <20100608175125.GA24521@thought.org> <20100608234654.649b8d0c@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100608234654.649b8d0c@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:18:57 -0000 On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:46:54PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? > > > > child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling > > production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line > > 2585. > > This was discussed on the ports list some time ago - I don't think they > came to any real conclusion. Someone said that sa-update had solved it, > someone fixed it by deleting and then reinstalling relevant ports. > > > seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but > > beyond that, i'm wedged. i would like to install dspam > > *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work. not entirely > > sure how to make that happen. > > The easiest way to do that is to pipe it though dspam > > dspam --stdout --deliver=innocent,spam > rats. i can't built dspam due to some database troubles. i'll see if there is a sa-update available. i sub to ports, but missed this one. ...appreciate the tips. -g > and then add an SA header test like: > > header DS_SPAM X-DSPAM-Result =~ /^Spam/ > tflags DS_SPAM learn > score DS_SPAM 3.5 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:08:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B863C106564A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from x4500fbsd@yahoo.com) Received: from web120207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (web120207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.85.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 699F88FC14 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53642 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2010 23:41:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1276040514; bh=8J67rSBD3J5tT2eAXdXi2vS+VaO/i5vmfTjepKK1SUE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zIi/Ewa6XbTmRyA/kk1LoZLcugwnr3m0YMWi5OpjgE1nmBAhrkXnf2N09cUpb9kN/YCJ1Ztyw3Mfb4fLXAiLpweTDzzs710+Wr+LMaF5D/djzJXMuYXdiI7t2y9qhd5STPMy1l0ad1B86Tl2uXZWaYvypoxFaUt3ax1w1ZtbftI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hb4E8lgLN2HcC4z1GvD0iw3Vijp2Zu4N3ZqpXuB7qHC5854PDcJjVZL7fceG4HwAfE5AmTloYvooj5qExE2WBNeVz7yPIPBNuthIJUYc8rIwT0QsjwaNGgAH/UIj62t4SQ+6YdhbaZxSb3UcQ+IASMa3pIUyg/n9MMaQLgMBLY4=; Message-ID: <101691.53333.qm@web120207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BM2e0jgVM1mMncBJS.F5XgNJAUgEw6BHGWIQ1GwsT40._dM pN3Y7V16VpS_WiVaGPdSXmQ0GQPrK_m.GWfgDA1MWNc4Iixeg2UntsCS9Cve vePHs01ZEd5Yxkcd6ISlyDAPyhJOoYdaHBPvEP.C8rhJQxyprdJOtT67k22H SLpnYYU.4SLGIpwxUiiZmmIrnSoicBLuQlhQP3tu_DAH4N2jo7QKC.G8mb4z afSiartKugJ5ua9pRH..Xb4PqhtdydFCUJA-- Received: from [24.5.102.43] by web120207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:41:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/397.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Goh Sanda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:08:35 -0000 I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file: echo "" w echo "" Just to show me what is going on each time I log in. The problem is, when I try to scp a file to the system, I get 'w' output echo'd to me, and no actual scp. sftp fails as well - I can no longer log in via sftp, and instead get this error: Received message too long 169882682 I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive SSH file transfer. Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining scp/sftp functionality ? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:17:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB471065673 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B648FC20 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM8rP-0002aF-EV; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:09:36 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:17:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:17:06 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: Mutt User List , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100609001706.GA14568@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: Mutt User List , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Colors, mutt, termcap/terminfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:17:12 -0000 I finally got 256 colors working with mutt and zsh on FreeBSD. Even though both of these programs apparently use terminfo rather than termcap, a termcap entry must exist for your TERM setting, or they both complain. I had tried that before, but I was missing one key ingredient. The environment variable TERMCAP needed to be set to the path of the termcap file, even if it is /etc/termcap. Apparently, if TERMCAP isn't set, a built-in termcap table is used instead. The terminfo setting I wanted was rxvt-256color, which existed in terminfo but not in termcap. So, I edited /etc/termcap to include a setting for rxvt-256color, export TERMCAP=/etc/termcap, export TERM=rxvt-256color, and all is now right with the world. Of course, I only want to use 256 colors if I'm running under rxvt. So I wrote a shell script to start mutt that tests for that and sets an environment variable MUTT_COLORS to the name of a file that includes my mutt color settings (either .mutt-color256 or .mutt-color8). Then, in .muttrc: source "~/$MUTT_COLORS" -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:29:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9711065673 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510CB8FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8741E379; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 02:29:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o590TjP1003704; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 02:29:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 02:29:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Goh Sanda Message-Id: <20100609022945.ffe09ab5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <101691.53333.qm@web120207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <101691.53333.qm@web120207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:29:49 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT), Goh Sanda wrote: > > > I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file: > > echo "" > w > echo "" > > Just to show me what is going on each time I log in. Use ~/.login for command that should be executed after you log in. The corresponding system-wide file is /etc/csh.login. > I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive > SSH file transfer. Because .cshrc is read (and that's why "executed") every time a shell is requested. > Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining > scp/sftp functionality ? Simply use ~/.cshrc for settings, and ~/.login for "real" commands. A better explaination can be found in "man csh", let me quote: Startup and shutdown A login shell begins by executing commands from the system files /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/csh.login. It then executes commands from files in the user's home directory: first ~/.tcshrc (+) or, if ~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc, then ~/.history (or the value of the histfile shell variable), then ~/.login, and finally ~/.cshdirs (or the value of the dirsfile shell variable) (+). The shell may read /etc/csh.login before instead of after /etc/csh.cshrc, and ~/.login before instead of after ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc and ~/.history, if so compiled; see the version shell variable. (+) Non-login shells read only /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc on startup. For examples of startup files, please consult http://tcshrc.source- forge.net. Commands like stty(1) and tset(1), which need be run only once per login, usually go in one's ~/.login file. Users who need to use the same set of files with both csh(1) and tcsh can have only a ~/.cshrc which checks for the existence of the tcsh shell variable (q.v.) before using tcsh-specific commands, or can have both a ~/.cshrc and a ~/.tcshrc which sources (see the builtin command) ~/.cshrc. The rest of this manual uses `~/.tcshrc' to mean `~/.tcshrc or, if ~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc'. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:44:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E236C1065676 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B10B48FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32250 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2010 00:44:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2010 00:44:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=CWmiF2O78rxeUYjEL7qNniIHYLm5T6B103zdmpQjPcPC3oaB6JFr/+Ypuktp4zZ3znBF2U+jU7y70aJXINuyhZoKZ7TeKMg1eHdmHFHPjgGZVBZZV1WbIWhO7P6ukoek; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM9PR-000292-0d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:44:46 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:44:17 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:44:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100609004417.GC37528@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608042804.GB33797@guilt.hydra> <20100608155540.2059f852.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100608155540.2059f852.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:44:47 -0000 --0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 03:55:40PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin wrot= e: > > I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text.=20 >=20 > And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can > edit the PDF file... :-) Hah. Good point. =2E . . though in cases where they'll take PDF, it's usually for something like an invoice, so this doesn't come up much in practice. >=20 > Just a friendly sidenote: >=20 > > On > > the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text > > if they "must" have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as > > DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after > > making some changes. >=20 > You are aware that there is not "the" DOC format? The many > various "Word" programs use slightly different formats, and > rendering a document heavily depends on the current environment > "Word" is running in, e. g. which fonts are installed, even > which printer is installed - all this can have influence on > how the document is opened. Yeah, I'm fully aware. That's why I said DOC(X) -- because it's DOC (any version) or DOCX. It's easier to say DOC(X) than "some variation of DOC or DOCX". >=20 > Furthermore, the DOCX format isn't really an open format. It > *claims* to be standardized, but it's not; even MICROS~1 didn't > implement it properly, and there are still blobs inside the > XML, which can lead to problems. I think Microsoft's mis-implementation (according to the "standard") was quite intentional. >=20 > There are many problems you can encounter in import/export > settings. So the only way to be sure is to use a standardized > format. My preference is plaintext. It doesn't get much more "standard" than that. >=20 > I've worked in a setting where interoperability was the main > goal, because there were BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and > even "Windows" machines, and our choice was OpenOffice, which > worked excellently across the platforms. It wouldn't have been > possible with MICROS~1 binary garbage in between. :-) OpenOffice.org is a heinous snarl of cat hair and feces, from my perspective. It's little better than MS Office, frankly. Your mileage obviously varies. >=20 >=20 >=20 > > I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the > > rarity, rather than me being the odd man out. >=20 > It *will* happen, just consider the costs and the growing > uncomfortability of those programs (not counting those who > regularly use pirated copies to have "the same pictures at > home" as they know them from work). :-) Actually, "pirating" is one of the main reasons MS Office is the dominant office suite in general use -- just as it is with MS Windows, too. There's not as much reason to switch to something free when the Microsoft option is "free" too. This might seem like kind of a foreign concept to many users of open source software, but I've discovered that even when they don't *respect* copyright law, open source software users and developers tend to *follow* copyright law a lot more diligently than the general run of computer-using humanity. =46rom what I've seen, people who use nothing but Microsoft, Adobe, and similar relentlessly closed-source consumer software are much more likely to think *nothing* of downloading cracked versions of commercial software than open source software users. That includes people like me, who simply don't use "pirated" software and believe that copyright law as a whole is a suppurating pustule on the face of modern civilization. Then, of course, if I get into a discussion of the ethicality of copyright law with one of those hypocrites, he almost invariably ends up accusing me of rejecting the ethicality of copyright law for no deeper reason other than trying to justify "stealing". Ironic -- don't you think? I'm a bit off-topic. Here's the on-topic: I wish I'd find a foolproof, simple, transparent way for me to see and edit well-formatted plain text no matter what nonsense bloated featuritis infected office suite anyone else wanted to use. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwO4+EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXStACg9jO32Mju3eLU3n42XQPxrTuG zfcAoI+aQUHEtFGztF488lwSSbH2b2wU =ilA3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:52:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4361F1065678 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6468FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so1703195iwn.13 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7JvgFld3psUvhcUdw53CzxR8thJz1eYHfFSRGWldWXc=; b=SHt1ACn5X51ZYTZkxEn+/gGXJ8BQ8OskZB8cZJ08yIjQhdhjEpESqNOjWgvsoa+Z+F phb1TxOpW2yzceT/kjFdCVv6u7fXKVaY8Ys9H8nGRPIr6yo0WbL6UApYWQNwZG7VDmmN +pETD5j9+9Mq0eHPbSi21CamV55VsZ7pPL20g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N4bBs5enr9cVXAhgaQLY+JynB5xBmguPCVEF8vApoJEiVOwKrJTpgVi2LP+7W2dMvi Id0CQs2VMovEhN2Mn6faxTGVE5oRBONt9MhnRtOPCLuFQeOhFWDb8u+aTOP1CMAGrN6R o60gKCEfPafuk9d+umOiXpXyLR7n2kv+YvwxQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.82.74 with SMTP id a10mr7012930ibl.183.1276044761935; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.157.210 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:52:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: nVidia motherboards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:52:43 -0000 I thought I saw even some partial support for nVidia motherboards.. but can't find it again. I can't get even get the kernel to load. it's an Atom 32-bit board and would like to find that reference again. If you can help me look I'd love the help. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:55:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D502F106566C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A41FC8FC12 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27998 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2010 00:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2010 00:55:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=A0nBKd0avoMj1z7NEV36NhvxJK1LV24gUzRFfbM/NUsstLVXwQGjYBSYuQ5BxIwAOVBfdbtCs2ZOUzsDNU4ATmuVo4ElFlD6ZVVxLCOoD7S4BZCxYnr9qjTLdqg1O95i; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM9a0-0006sF-VC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:55:42 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:55:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:55:13 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100609005513.GE37528@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607035650.GA29350@guilt.hydra> <20100607163456.GB2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608151603.GB32431@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100608151603.GB32431@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:55:43 -0000 --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:16:03AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > >=20 > > >[...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires th= at=20 > > >I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using= =20 > > >some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different=20 > > >format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I= 'd=20 > > >like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it wh= en=20 > > >I must. > >=20 > > I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and= =20 > > really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv = foo=20 > > foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file= ,=20 > > so... > >=20 > That's great -- I'll have to remember that one. I sorta did that once. I sent someone a plaintext file. He double clicked the file, causing it to automatically open in Notepad, which puked on my Unix-style linebreaks. He asked me to give it to him in DOC format. I said he should just open it in another application, at which point he gave me his pathetic sob story about how he always double clicked a file to open it and if it doesn't work that way he can't open the file et cetera, et alii, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. To make a long story short (too late), I changed the filename from filename.txt to filename.doc and sent it to him again. He double-clicked, and it automatically opened the file in Word. I still find the gall of the man kind of surprising, demanding that I find some way to save the file in DOC format and re-email it to him when he could just open MS Word and use File > Open to browse to the file. I seem to recall he didn't want to be bothered figuring out how to Save As to change it into DOC format himself, either, even if he did get it open in MS Word, which makes the whole situation even more bizarre and aggravating for me. It was just the once that I did that, though. Aside from 1) requests for resumes and 2) files that I originally got from someone else in MS Office file formats, I haven't really had any need to deal with the DOC(X) and other MS Office formats. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwO5nEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV9pwCeNZ5+u4w0CPAP5EyK7kzaqT73 AkYAoIf+pejs1J2nG1Q4JzrzKLgwW5je =ye8F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 00:59:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30801065672 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC8B78FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16374 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2010 00:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2010 00:59:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=TcTgMOhIU+rqGasYcytj6VSW7h0Lu2Rekfqkk2jJiYvfrkBGpBSI952eQF8G0p7yHZOinIl7z9vobSTTNL7fkzxDw0m6JpHlKrnZ5XZOkwbieqWB0Z1pr5gqkQSF61zu; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OM9dT-0002EA-8M; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:59:16 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:58:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:58:47 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100609005847.GF37528@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions , Alejandro Imass References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GLp9dJVi+aaipsRk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Alejandro Imass Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:59:17 -0000 --GLp9dJVi+aaipsRk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 04:43:42AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: > in message > , > wrote Alejandro Imass thusly... > > > > Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation, > > and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE > > 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem > > is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. >=20 > Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package > without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & > simple Excel files? With my old OO.o install (from package, not port), I haven't had any problems. The thing even "exports" to PDF without Java. Since then, however, I haven't been able to find a working OO.o binary package for FreeBSD, so I haven't upgraded my OO.o version. >=20 > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window > after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... I'm not sure what you mean by this. Empty window? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --GLp9dJVi+aaipsRk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAkwO50cACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVtjQCgs49NANmR7s6aYpmu0IdzZWRI BQgAlA1NWrUy/XKjNaldTxKqBYPNgQ4= =oKm9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GLp9dJVi+aaipsRk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 01:19:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A72E1065670 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 01:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from super_bisquit@yahoo.com) Received: from n3-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (n3-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.23.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E073C8FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 01:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [67.195.9.82] by n3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2010 01:19:14 -0000 Received: from [98.137.27.214] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2010 01:19:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp124.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2010 01:19:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 348341.96848.bm@omp124.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44783 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2010 01:19:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1276046354; bh=RBkEFQaMKLnWX4iAvJIEw6DZDvJaCCzxPaOwndcyGBs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H4b/feUGEDGeGDBJAgO1pD5VwPuxbK8VEJQabV/02c1DbqBSk2ZaB2996vJVQyFWzSK48M6c5yzMiyZ7S7z00s0aEUtBAf7E6BC86OxWfRBtPt52XMgMohd68o8Pj1xKSG+BReTYnikLzerRX7Wl0wL8JlcUa7TnbXjTlO7ew+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QrqAbjXTPaA3JGDXQRnAhnIxusYQNv0eOSKS2TQIVrtSEVfdtO89d98ffm094Q7CED9mDaDf3OdrAaxPhxrHJ9u+AC4MB+2HLZYZ09ih0wIfGYDBamWYi05A+jmqwgwWkkM/Eros/F09MAP+l5L0U6u/Sajx8wNkfP3WwqddXm0=; Message-ID: <217200.44530.qm@web110112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V37a.gwVM1lnFhK7eyFGy9Vqd9AOgEwL7sHis81rvfjdxzv lokUKB3NVdU6rVJUAJkaJAOenlJPNTpxudKoy7drKUPTQf_kjawUiKNMn_Lr GkNZxIIQUpmnKewicrkusGEuLanzwbY7xg_qqrUXsaJqIjgxivyApyAoBeMf r8btQ_bIfTSv7EyA7NJ0i65m82pVYFED6ZfUUU5bKD3taMYeR0gJ2PtusM.O DFMhKQse.KYzIJPBdRXcmIl5Dt3si70b2hq.CCegaiKwPtDtGI5PQ.vXQA3B ZtdJa58zE9wDiAh2TZVppKw-- Received: from [98.252.40.146] by web110112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:19:14 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.1.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:19:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Super Biscuit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Install path not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:19:15 -0000 Kdelibs stops with Code: libtool: install: error: cannot install `libkunittest.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib . Changing to the directory and grepping for /usr/local/lib returns Code: tima# cat /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/kunittest/Makefile|grep /usr/local/lib LIBART_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lart_lgpl_2 -lm LIBART_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib LIBPCRE = -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib -lpcreposix -lpcre LIBXML_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lxml2 -lz -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -lm LIBXML_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib LIBXSLT_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lxslt -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm LIBXSLT_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib LIB_CUPS = -lcups -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz -pthread -lm -lcrypt LIB_EXR = -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lIlmImf -lz -lImath -lHalf -lIex -lIlmThread X_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib all_libraries = -L${exec_prefix}/lib -L/usr/local/lib qt_libraries = /usr/local/lib x_libraries = /usr/local/lib tima# Which is the path for the install? To me it looks like Code: all_libraries = -L${exec_prefix}/lib -L/usr/local/lib , but I am not sure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 03:12:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40231065677 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997418FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31420 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2010 03:12:52 -0000 Received: from s5.stradamotorsports.com (HELO [192.168.1.182]) (jcw@[64.81.163.123]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Jun 2010 03:12:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4C0F06B4.9070300@speakeasy.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:12:52 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Configure PMBR to Find Loader on GPT Disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:12:54 -0000 After setting up a GPT disk and installing the boot blocks with: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad4 The system wants to boot: 0:ad(0p2)/boot/kernel/kernel I manually intervene to cause the system to boot: 1:ad(5p8)/boot/loader How do I configure the boot blocks to do this without human intervention on a GPT system? boot0cfg doesn't seem to be the correct tool for this job. Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 03:51:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163B8106566B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08B38FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o593psEQ072778 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:51:53 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:51:59 -0000 hi y'all! for a cchange i have decided not to bother/continue bothering roland. offlist. he has set me up with enough of a starter that >> 90% of my book is typeset. i have a few other tex/latex questions for anybody in the extreme east of Zulu time. or even points west to the dateline. below is where my main protagonist, erik-the-geek, is showing a friend his unix CRT and a USENET newsgroup. ---this is circa 1992. i see that i've used "per se". in my ascii type i cannot type the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs. 12-15 years ago when i was first messing with tex i remember there =was= a way of telling tex to type the diacritical mark over the "e".... the most important part is that i want the demo blurb [[modified from usenet when i drafted this]] in "typewriter" typeface. the docs i googled said that {\tt text blah blah } would put the text between the braces in typewriter-font. i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text. so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the denoted text in tt font and with 9pt size? the "\\" should give the ragged edge as it appeared on the tube. this works in {verse} anyway. i'm not sure what to do at the bottom of the post; i figure trial/error will anser that. here is the bit of the novel that i need help with. any/all help is much appreciated. +++++ He added, ``There are some news groups on the Net that have little to do with computers, per se. There are groups that argue about politics, religion, science, art, you name it. I don't waste my time with those.'' ``Can you show me?'' she said. ``Sure,'' Erik said, and drove back to the table where his hardware sat. He typed a few keystrokes on the keyboard and watched the terminal. ``I'm bringing up the news groups,'' he said. A moment later when the terminal screen displayed a list, Erik typed several more keys. ``Now what am I looking at?'' Bonnie asked some seconds later. ``Okay, this is one of the groups where you'll find endless arguments. This is the newsgroup called `talk.abortion.' Now the first article here is this one--'' Erik typed another key and a brief paragraph displayed: {\tt chris\_smith@holyrose.mass.edu Christopher L. Z. Smith Masturbation is wrong I think that not only is abortion the taking of an innocent living life,\\ but that for men especially, masturbation is WRONG. When we males masturbate,\\ we are murdering countless millions of sperm which are, in my view,\\ imbued with that spark of infinity which we call GOD. Yes, I realize that\\ sperm are genetically haploid but I still think and masturbation is Wrong!\\ Masturbation is a SIN!\\ Yours in Holy Opposition, -- Chris Smith, Electronically spreading the Holy Truth.} Bonnie finished the note and looked at Erik............. [[[ story continues]]] +++++++ that's about it. if anybody can clue me in here, the answers will help me with the the few other places that could, optionally, use different fonts than the default. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 04:08:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0C81065676 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 04:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B78F8FC23 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 04:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C593A38EA; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:46 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1276056526; x= 1277870926; bh=JHI3gYxM4KcLe45Y9MqZw7ZlpPRdZh2h8Chjcp1JUq8=; b=C 9Q35GbEHh5YFwDiOoWiPCm8qSsojvSsy7xCshbo3T6IYPx86Rpz6cUbkfeEU//JT E+ep2Pfvd1JJUO92GnvTkN7A0yPK6LAjMbckC881MctO85gM7xjjQVx8/Edmbty4 3qE9G7dOyAPM6BLxKY2TeZMVsiMGJLgdUXch8Lai9w= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 5JlVQFwpsAsq; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:46 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26B143A38AB; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:46 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o5948jd7039920; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:45 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:08:45 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201006090408.o5948jd7039920@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: kline@thought.org In-reply-to: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> (message from Gary Kline on Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:51:53 -0700) References: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:08:49 -0000 Hi, > i see that i've used "per se". in my ascii type i cannot type > the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs. 12-15 years > ago when i was first messing with tex i remember there =was= a > way of telling tex to type the diacritical mark over the "e".... First remark, "per se" being latin takes no accute accent. But you should be able to use back-slash, single quote, letter e, to get a e-accute > i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text. > so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the back-slash small? Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 07:15:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE371065673 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8698FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so2042657iwn.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.142.158 with SMTP id q30mr7502715ibu.145.1276067744163; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:15:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.201 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:15:23 +0300 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:15:45 -0000 Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see it? [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me eitan 96325 0.0 0.0 1856 724 5 RL+ 10:14AM 0:00.00 grep Me [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ !1! ]% -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 07:34:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89EF106564A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170A58FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o597YefX029984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:34:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C0F4410.40900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:34:40 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:34:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2010 08:15:23, Eitan Adler wrote: > Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see it? > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me > eitan 96325 0.0 0.0 1856 724 5 RL+ 10:14AM 0:00.00 grep Me > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ !1! ]% > When you run that pipeline the OS doesn't start both programs exactly simultaneously. It starts ps(1) first, then grep(1) together with creating the pipeline by connecting ps's stdout to grep's stdin. Depending on system load and various other factors, this may allow ps(1) to grab the snapshot of the process table that it works on before grep(1) has started. It's a race condition. Whether you see this effect or not will depend very much on system conformation and load. I can't reproduce the effect on a lightly loaded dual processor machine, which always shows the grep process, whereas on a single processor virtual machine running under VirtualBox, I never see grep in the ps output unless I renice the ps(1) process. Cheers Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwPRBAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxkWgCeNSQX37XoGvaZn2A/0vYrmUka 1yMAnjtZJoYNqOdo9UDkWks/4cYpVFPy =Rkg3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 07:50:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03205106566C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70008FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o597ojMl073768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o597oj7Q073767; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10173; Wed, 9 Jun 10 00:41:39 PDT Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:38:40 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: cyberleo@cyberleo.net Message-Id: <4c0f4500.c9c7svw82/KOEKe5%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4C0C9DCC.1030507@cyberleo.net> <4C0E8672.7010507@cyberleo.net> In-Reply-To: <4C0E8672.7010507@cyberleo.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:50:48 -0000 CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > ... Alas, this box lacks obvious serial ports. If you don't mind taking it apart, there's a fair chance of finding a 3- or 9-pin SIO header on the circuit board. It may be TTL level rather than RS232, however. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 11:09:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024CE1065675 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2C58FC1E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so2224825iwn.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.155.18 with SMTP id q18mr3213781ibw.44.1276081758108; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:09:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.201 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 04:08:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:08:58 +0300 Message-ID: To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:09:19 -0000 Lately I've been getting a considerable number of defunct processes. I do not know of any major event that changed my computer (ie it is not related to an ports update or a freeBSD upgrade). This is often caused by me killing the process using kill -15 or kill -3 or kill -9. What can I do to determine why processes are not getting killed by kill -9? % ps -o ppid -o comm|grep defunct|cut -d ' ' -f 1 |xargs kill -9 typically gets rid of them (by killing their parent) -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 12:31:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D785106564A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CB48FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so4409289fxm.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PoDaaGwweanAzJwOXBWFnqFmOFrLFBwi9fiX7Rtkrao=; b=K2Kj1X57pZM0IHKvv0TNVemu3Ey4uzRBo9lQnKCSE6wXifeQrzClnqa/eKIBF/2Co/ 9H3dWHp2ZVOtvmeHUsCfpv2OkSdlzAVGRvr+juq1OGyzrc/ylDzhdnU8wphztv/MjC7a BlDXN8UsjRNaUffz2ewI52I9RKhHTTIOIbvME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=g9YCqKPjPZOVD7L262oEl/EfX0jdrwGQ8RDwtz8YzoQ2Wxog9Vp11SV0/M2INExxPS /tZWKQSXBbpJxX7qHTMFXpo0wiTV+LVFdwYZvMDp9GN2lX0O+n0uvQYWHM/wx/KX9GXV jiXOP7OcM6I1aVYJwNMANnVqN7pJg/APToTuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.160.66 with SMTP id m2mr688260bkx.69.1276086699570; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.100 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:31:39 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: davical upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:31:41 -0000 I have php52-5.2.13_2 (not php5-5.3.2, too many people had stuff only compatible with the 5.2 version) There was an upgrade of davical, but I get ---> Upgrade of www/davical started at: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:48:38 +0200 ---> Upgrading 'davical-0.9.8.4' to 'davical-0.9.9' (www/davical) ---> Build of www/davical started at: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:48:38 +0200 ---> Building '/usr/ports/www/davical' ===> Cleaning for davical-0.9.9 Unknown extension pdo_pgsql for PHP 52. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/davical. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100608-92 883-p9aga4-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=davical-0.9.8.4 UPGRADE_P ORT_VER=0.9.8.4 make FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-q DEPENDS_TARGET=package ** Fix the problem and try again. but I have on my system: # pkg_info | grep pdo_ php52-pdo_mysql-5.2.13_2 The pdo_mysql shared extension for php php52-pdo_pgsql-5.2.13_2 The pdo_pgsql shared extension for php php52-pdo_sqlite-5.2.13_2 The pdo_sqlite shared extension for php What's wrong, how to solve? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 12:46:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962431065673 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD0B8FC1E for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:46:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.2, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_50 0.80) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: o59CkLHV019710 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-214-134.home.otenet.gr [94.64.214.134]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1) with ESMTP id o59CkLHV019710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:46:27 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o59CkLT8003529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:46:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o59CkKeb003526; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:46:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eitan Adler References: Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:46:20 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Eitan Adler's message of "Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:08:58 +0300") Message-ID: <87bpbk9xwj.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:46:58 -0000 On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:08:58 +0300, Eitan Adler wrote: > Lately I've been getting a considerable number of defunct processes. I > do not know of any major event that changed my computer (ie it is not > related to an ports update or a freeBSD upgrade). > > This is often caused by me killing the process using kill -15 or kill > -3 or kill -9. > > What can I do to determine why processes are not getting killed by kill -9? > > % ps -o ppid -o comm|grep defunct|cut -d ' ' -f 1 |xargs kill -9 > typically gets rid of them (by killing their parent) That's the only way to kill zombies... You can't signal the zombie/defunct process itself, because it's gone already. But you can kill the process who spawned it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 13:07:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30801065670 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgimer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C69A8FC16 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm34 with SMTP id 34so417170yxm.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:07:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Yyylr73fP1PsVAZKLSGzldKcETj3DggEVlEV0X4K+UQ=; b=Xixpas5aLlAlpVFLqJ4wDLXw6eFgK19WRnoakc2Grpf7bluvotqZ5mBV1LXD+A9QyG slJt0FMxCn3jQuSYfAxt+fSNk9kwv+33hz2wMmRX3lvunKrLlpk3Xlh3YPb+ls9BxptL y5OFByYkOZSq1Vd70hGOa+3/CHCz2POqwNymk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pXEjd/ul3C96DTG/O8PcNAJJ4bseIpZSV5M3rLBhXmow/j+K2L+uUUoGtTHUiLvTLp lSU/EbbghsfzcGdZ+gmCqB7ZBAWgceyPoZFkD1oJS8DEkjSs8KjRk43zF1ooQim+KA+u Two/j2hWO+lNUC3ngvu4rz0/LpWymDSuDRY18= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.86.2 with SMTP id o2mr3163653ybl.318.1276087312891; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.42.10 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 05:41:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:41:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: Joshua Gimer To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:07:25 -0000 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > What can I do to determine why processes are not getting killed by kill -9? > > Try attaching to it using truss to see if it will shed some light on the reason why the process will not die. http://www.unix.com/man-page/FreeBSD/1/truss/ -- Thanks, Joshua Gimer --------------------------- http://www.linkedin.com/in/jgimer http://twitter.com/jgimer http://itsecops.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 13:13:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3EA1065680 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5844C8FC12 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so2569928ewy.34 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:13:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.112.144 with SMTP id w16mr1316467ebp.85.1276089219121; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.27.211 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:13:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.38.225] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:13:39 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Joshua Gimer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:13:40 -0000 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Joshua Gimer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: >> What can I do to determine why processes are not getting killed by kill -9? > > Try attaching to it using truss to see if it will shed some light on the > reason why the process will not die. The only reason for zombies is that the parent process doesn't invoke the wait(2) system call to reclaim their return status. I'd truss(1) the parent: maybe it is buggy or even stopped (SIGSTOP?). -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 13:34:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0691065670 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahamiltonwright@mta.ca) Received: from smtpy.mta.ca (smtpy.mta.ca [138.73.1.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0722F8FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [138.73.29.51] (port=49201 helo=qemg.org) by smtpy.mta.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OMLQU-0002Ja-0Y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:34:38 -0300 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:34:37 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Wright" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Sender: ahamiltonwright@mta.ca Subject: xsltproc: failed to load external entity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:34:39 -0000 Is anyone else experiencing a rash of docbook-related build issues centering around xsltproc accessing remote XML files? Currently while building polkit (recursively from a build of emacs), I get the error: gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/sysutils/polkit/work/polkit-0.96/docs/man' /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet --stringparam man.base.url.for.relative.links /usr/local/share/gtk-doc/html/polkit-1/ --xinclude http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl polkit.xml warning: failed to load external entity "http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl" cannot parse http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/manpages/docbook.xsl gmake[3]: *** [polkit.8] Error 4 I'm not a common user of xsltproc, but the combination of an argument beginning "http://" along with the option "-nonet" (described as "Do not use the Internet to fetch DTDs, entities or documents" on the man page) seems rather fishy to me. Can this combination ever work? Has anyone else seen this? Does anyone have a suggestion for a fix? Thanks, Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 14:49:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBCA106566B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260D78FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMMTC-0005zw-UZ for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:41:32 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:49:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:49:05 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100609144905.GA92940@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:49:11 -0000 On Jun 08 2010 20:51, Gary Kline wrote: > > He added, ``There are some news groups on the Net that have little to do > with computers, per se. There are groups that argue about politics, > religion, science, art, you name it. I don't waste my time with those.'' > Nice ploy to generate interest in your novel. I'd change "There are some groups on the Net that have little" to "Some groups on the Net have little". Likewise, "There are groups that argue" to "Some groups argue", or perhaps "You can find groups that argue". I try to avoid the passive "There are" whenever possible. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 14:51:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1511065672 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AA38FC19 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8783CB7D; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o59EopSw001632; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20100609165050.06b54351.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> References: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:51:10 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:51:53 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > in my ascii type i cannot type > the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs.=20 Isnt e-aigu part of the ASCII table? Depending on your editor, can you manually enter it using the "two accents key" (on the german keyboard directly left to the backspace key) to enter the sequence accent-letter, generating =E9, =C9, =E8 and =C8? Finally, LaTeX allows you to add the diacritical mark using the proper macro: \'{e} - while in this case the apostrophe key is used to create the ' (as a stand-alone character, or "single quote"). > the most important part is that i want the demo blurb > [[modified from usenet when i drafted this]] in "typewriter" > typeface. the docs i googled said that {\tt text blah blah } > would put the text between the braces in typewriter-font. Use the safe LaTeX form: \texttt{text blah blah}, allthough the for you used - switching to \tt face using scope, is possible. > i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text. If you want to quote text (which indents it), use \begin{quote} ... \end{quote}. > so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the > denoted text in tt font and with 9pt size?=20 LaTeX doesn't give you direct control over pt sizes - and that's GOOD. Just imagine your text is 10pt in general, and you want several passages to be 6pt. Fine. Now you decide that your text is better in 12pt in general - and you now need to set all occurances of 6pt manually to a different value. LaTeX uses relative font size modifiers. \tiny - \scriptsize - \footnotesize - \small - \normalsize -=20 \large - \Large - \LARGE - \huge - \Huge. The base size it refers to is declared in your preable, e. g. \documentclass[12pt,a4paper,twoside]{article} which sets 12pt as reference value for \normalsize. You can use them either by "switch state" or by scopus, e. g. Now big text will follow. \Huge Zorch, uch huge text!!! \normalsize Ah, being back to normal. which is equivalent to Now big text will follow. {\Huge Zorch, uch huge text!!!} Ah, being back to normal. Personally, I prefer the second form. > the "\\" should give > the ragged edge as it appeared on the tube. this works in > {verse} anyway. i'm not sure what to do at the bottom of the > post; i figure trial/error will anser that. The \\ macro creates a forced line-break within a paragraph and should hardly be used. It's microformatting, and that's what LaTeX should not be abused for. :-) > here is the bit of the novel that i need help with. any/all help > is much appreciated. >=20 > +++++ >=20 > ``Can you show me?'' she said. Erm, why don't you use doublequotes instead of doubled singlequotes? Yes, it sounds stupid, but it's like implementing quotes using commas and apostrophes ,,like in this example'' for example. :-) Use "` (doublequote backtick) for opening quotes and "' (doublequote apostrophe) for closing quotes. When I say "doublequote", I refer to the inch character (as in 21" CRT) in your alphanumerical keyboard section. You can also use macros for quoting, but I found them a bit too much typing, I just wanto to mention them: there are \glqq and \grqq (german left quote quote, german right quote quote) and \glq and \grq, representing ,,text'' and ,text'. There are also \flqq (french left quote quote) and the forms \frqq, \flq and \frq, to use <> and ; for russian quotes, >>text<< and >text<, use them in the opposite order. > ``Okay, this is one of the groups where you'll find endless arguments. > This is the newsgroup called `talk.abortion.' Now the first article here > is this one--'' Erik typed another key and a brief paragraph displayed: >=20 > {\tt chris\_smith@holyrose.mass.edu Christopher L. Z. Smith I would use \begin{quote} {\tt chris\_smith@holyrose.mass.edu Christopher L. Z. Smith next paragraph here and maybe another one } \end{quote} in this example. Works perfectly for multilines and paragraphs. Don't only focus on how things look like; make it clear to you what certain passages and elements of your text ARE. For example, the above short passage can be seen as a quote. If you see that you need the "quote from newsgroup discussion" text element more often, define an own environment for it, so IF you want to change its look, change it ONCE, in a central position, and stay away from microformatting. For example, put this before \begin{document} (in fact, put it anywhere before use): \newenvironment{ngquote}{\begin{quote}\tt}{\end{quote}} You can now use it that way: \begin{ngquote} chris\_smith@holyrose.mass.edu Christopher L. Z. Smith next paragraph here and maybe another one \end{ngquote} If you wish to also reduce text size, do it in the environment declaration to make all occurances benefit from it. Oh, and whenever you encounter special characters that do have a meaning in LaTeX, and you don't know the correct substitution (like \_ for _), use \verb and \begin{verbatim}...\end{verbatim} to have text inserted 1:1. > that's about it. if anybody can clue me in here, the answers > will help me with the the few other places that could, > optionally, use different fonts than the default. =20 You shouldn't spread all possible typographical properties across one page. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 14:51:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565651065673 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55538FC1B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-54-73.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.54.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o59Ep5Sh078037 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:51:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0323569F0 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:51:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id opswaXPDvH4t for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from matthias-fechners-macbook.local (unknown [192.168.20.6]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7F1A069DF for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C0FAA47.40608@fechner.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:50:47 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:51:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: davical upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:51:13 -0000 Hi, Am 09.06.10 14:31, schrieb n dhert: > ---> Upgrading 'davical-0.9.8.4' to 'davical-0.9.9' (www/davical) > ---> Build of www/davical started at: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:48:38 +0200 > ---> Building '/usr/ports/www/davical' > ===> Cleaning for davical-0.9.9 > Unknown extension pdo_pgsql for PHP 52. > have you installed the paket: php5-pdo_pgsql? Bye, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 15:08:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719AC106564A for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com (mail-yw0-f182.google.com [209.85.211.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6928FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh12 with SMTP id 12so4671502ywh.14 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.145.21 with SMTP id x21mr17478511ann.232.1276096082409; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.201 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:07:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:07:42 +0300 Message-ID: To: "A. Wright" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xsltproc: failed to load external entity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:08:07 -0000 > > I'm not a common user of xsltproc, but the combination of an argument > beginning "http://" along with the option "-nonet" (described as "Do not > use the Internet to fetch DTDs, entities or documents" on the man page) > seems rather fishy to me. =C2=A0Can this combination ever work? > > Has anyone else seen this? =C2=A0Does anyone have a suggestion for a fix? Install with NO_INSTALL_MANPAGES and the problem will go away. I think it comes from a configuration option for docbook. --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 15:12:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544A01065672 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD44D8FC26 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so4552465fxm.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JHfMi9Zb4vB4lOgH3quNnR4bf/6AnSsNm2UTYjDXMZ8=; b=ehyXqDDhxqrGFjjoHsM/KT5eLman4fIlMcm8LgT80HjR317Ih0cJuTulkaObF4U1jR 0BxZvuA+Wzxu4eD7Xz/IWwOuQjKR5B45kbfqyw6L67ryklPa4sBwcfGyU7oDrt0TjfKu EOHm0vAVKZvx4bavojAKLyAGSDGhc7g2dY+9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LVy9DRZFJNTNii5e3Nnn9vL9unKihvlZfvvtJ4PIlFuX6lIOZeCf2gWELTmGYijwK9 JOyohRmpIJWBIQHmvv8lLNkgGbXKeVqCTtJ7H++mkPJ+ybESuc+jw0a9dD2t7Iur24GF mTvKmiVDl4GQ13SExey214sfr1lE8b1S0gyMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.140.143 with SMTP id x15mr1154954hbx.141.1276096365195; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.165.129 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:12:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: net-snmp 5.5 tcp wrappers broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:12:49 -0000 Has anyone one else this behaviour /etc/hosts.allow ALL : X : allow ALL : ALL : deny do an simple system snmp query from host x fails remove the deny all line and it starts working. trussing the process shows snmpd calling lib wrap and accessing the hosts.allow fine, just no joy. Earlier version on net-snmp 5.3 i upgraded from works fine. Ports and src tree csup'd very recently. ssh does have these issues with the same hosts.allow file. Hosts reverse and forward dns matches FreeBSD xx 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Jun 9 10:52:17 BST 2010 x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DTRACE amd64 # ls /etc/host* /etc/host.conf /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.equiv /etc/hosts.lpd [root]# /usr/local/sbin/snmpd -v NET-SNMP version: 5.5 Web: http://www.net-snmp.org/ Email: net-snmp-coders@lists.sourceforge.net [root]# ls -l /usr/local/sbin/snmpd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 28880 Jun 9 12:30 /usr/local/sbin/snmpd [root]# ldd /usr/local/sbin/snmpd /usr/local/sbin/snmpd: libnetsnmpagent.so.20 => /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmpagent.so.20 (0x80064c000) libnetsnmphelpers.so.20 => /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmphelpers.so.20 (0x800793000) libnetsnmpmibs.so.20 => /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmpmibs.so.20 (0x8008b7000) libwrap.so.6 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.6 (0x800abe000) libperl.so => /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/CORE/libperl.so (0x800bc6000) libcrypt.so.5 => /lib/libcrypt.so.5 (0x800dec000) libutil.so.8 => /lib/libutil.so.8 (0x800f05000) libnetsnmp.so.20 => /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmp.so.20 (0x801015000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x8011e3000) libkvm.so.5 => /lib/libkvm.so.5 (0x801302000) libdevstat.so.7 => /lib/libdevstat.so.7 (0x80140a000) libcrypto.so.6 => /lib/libcrypto.so.6 (0x80150f000) libelf.so.1 => /usr/lib/libelf.so.1 (0x8017a7000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x8018bf000) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 15:14:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360DA1065673 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from REMORSE@PARTNERS.ORG) Received: from phsmgmx10.partners.org (phsmgmx10.partners.org [155.52.251.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD388FC15 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:14:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMFAI5FD0yEt5wS/2dsb2JhbACSNYwScb4ShRgE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,391,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="351818401" Received: from hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu ([132.183.156.18]) by phsmgmx10.partners.org with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 09 Jun 2010 10:45:38 -0400 Received: from buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu (buxtehude.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.156.105]) by hedwig.mgh.harvard.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o59Eje2e055378 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:45:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from REMORSE@PARTNERS.ORG) From: Richard Morse Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:45:39 -0400 Message-Id: To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Core dump with php52-recode? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 15:15:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274B41065693 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB28C8FC22 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so1294767vws.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:15:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.26.231 with SMTP id f39mr898471qac.56.1276096531806; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.232.207 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:15:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> References: <20100609035151.GA89606@thought.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:15:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wuNfOQu05cg5SSfFgB8aFZLDLmw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... . X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:15:53 -0000 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > hi y'all! > [...] Just my 0.02: I use LaTeX directly strictly for typesetting but not for structure and content. In other words, for structure and content I prefer to work in a higher level structure such as DocBook or any other meta-model of a document, _and then_ transform to LaTeX for print (physical) typesetting. This has _many_ advantages since you can keep "the source" of your document in a high-level structure (SGML, XML., Wiki Markup, txt2tags, etc.) and more easily transform that to any media, including print. My personal preference is SGML and the DocBook structure, because it more easily adapts to our need. I prefer SGML DocBook because XSLT is still (and probably will always be) limited for the kinds of transformation needed to things like LaTex so DSSSL is much more powerful IMHO for that. Besides, the popular Norman Walsh stylesheets are so well though-out for books, that he usually get's it right, and they need very few tweaks to adapt them to your needs. Anyway, the message is that LaTex is an awesome technology for what it is: a typesetting system, not an authoring tool. If you keep you source data in a structured authoring format, you can later use the data per se, for example structured text searches, re-use of the data, etc. etc. etc. Best, Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 15:24:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05991065687 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E48D8FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMN8x-000HeY-RI; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:24:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BEC411304F; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C0FB234.60007@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:24:36 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Morse References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core dump with php52-recode? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:24:44 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Morse wrote: > Hi! I just did a portsnap and found that php52 had been updated. When I recompiled (using `portmaster -i php52 php52-extensions`, suddenly php started crashing: > >> Jun 9 10:27:30 hedwig kernel: pid 35517 (php), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > > I was able to trace this down to the php52-recode extension. Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? > > Thanks, > Ricky > > Hi Ricky, I ran into a similar problem a while back and corrected it by re-ordering the PHP extensions.ini file. Perhaps these pages will help troubleshoot the problem: http://nerdstock.org/php_extensions?lang=en http://www.pingle.org/2007/09/22/php-crashes-extensions-workaround Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMD7I00sRouByUApARArYvAJoCtyHnjjr16X9aJ801+HazpGucJgCffQPN tGah/ScE2ZIIcfylZnw2NGQ= =q4IX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 16:50:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2230106574B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D1B8FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.52.139) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C0D11BA003D8F3C; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:50:23 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o59GoI2W032778; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:50:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C0FC64A.30500@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:50:18 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100402 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: net-snmp 5.5 tcp wrappers broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:50:24 -0000 On 06/09/10 17:12, krad wrote: > Has anyone one else this behaviour Yep. > /etc/hosts.allow > > ALL : X : allow > ALL : ALL : deny snmpd: ALL : allow works. Googling around, it seems FreeBSD is not the only OS affected... bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 16:54:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DE51065678 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from n11.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n11.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [74.6.228.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87A9F8FC1B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.12.66] by n11.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2010 16:53:58 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.175] by t7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2010 16:53:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp116.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2010 16:53:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 580861.40076.bm@omp116.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86733 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2010 16:53:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1276102438; bh=yuXJRnLfxZgSUUJueoh35jYkut+8CfTu31DqjqP7+Hs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VnwPRlPwg4nmUnh96hLqcZnR8QAqBYkMNtgxSbpxomRfA+bEJr1i3SHEermWlgPcX8l5VEQRPP/j1trUJdFHgw76ouGwBjp7JcbC9ltc5PIoSz7uREvSJuKkfbkIFfuTf932kIW8oBdv7TuWkXHxPHw6sSNFQwQEsd2LMUjDiDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zsVMnMGzcA/3kTmN2jv0OGBEDGA5qLn60PDrYuGLfze3w6ivuHPHnTtvCdd+A4U+x9zdmDQModxe2Lsn/Tsf0T0khyhTxeVv61aPinyUgyj7zBFhYjg6A8xfjRm/7mvPmIvZ3crJv82vlIWqtEs1l0OrmbXD1MVvevwiCa1wOhg=; Message-ID: <357127.81193.qm@web65509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: unaWZL4VM1nU9NiXmOD7hmFnjFNsQNqJcQeIRm9anHGqZV6 il5jNNG7_YWx7dAd1KBqn24rKG9tcJHgV8bulxE5rgZYgPIrVb1P7EvpiuUJ SQXJ8HgJyOALD_E.uZQ6rS59jB9C5TTebrIC7VrU1FZENUEHQtcXmAKIopMh r2lbja9utKdb9PNbuPXcvpkOUXq9o_eiSdyJI_ENgoFL1mpffDVCdPeG5YcC jd8CdseoOafCTchKty1BbC9pHpo4s3H_lD3lncGbZd93dgx9DaEZLI2ri7DE hGoOFTrJ18Wcsusv3aFGqaRgreO9sLAMIf3whmuvxiixzcUrWBQ.Onv9loBQ Gew-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:53:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.1.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100609120012.BED0F10656D0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:54:00 -0000 > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:44:17 -0600 > From: Chad Perrin > Subject: Re: office apps > To: FreeBSD Questions > Message-ID: <20100609004417.GC37528@guilt.hydra> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I don't really like Oo.org either. It is a little better than MS-Office, be seems to follow the same general design philosophy. > > I wish I'd find a foolproof, simple, transparent way for me > to see and > edit well-formatted plain text no matter what nonsense > bloated featuritis > infected office suite anyone else wanted to use. Well, I heard RTF is useful for interoperability between MS word versions, but I am not sure how well interoperability between different vendors works in practice. The Wikipedia page says RTF is a proprietary standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format You may also want to use an SGML variant like HTML or XML, but those can be tedious to manually edit. For quick messages, Plain ASCII text is much better unless you need a different character set. In that case, Unicode text will probably work. Regards, James Phillips > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 17:08:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C620F106566C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC448FC1F for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:08:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qXMh5QPBcdVGPlSuovMI3YqffpUTMWPwMqUnXLzRgMM= c=1 sm=0 a=qU5ZuYy1v4MA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=64iin7ZDX+lUS8OB6KzQoA==:17 a=Ymsr-CWnAAAA:8 a=ctEKnndb6qiU6KoKZM0A:9 a=gfhraLhyb9tZQE6Db9ORVSYHQUoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=v2EulsF24l4A:10 a=64iin7ZDX+lUS8OB6KzQoA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.150.184.250 Received: from [98.150.184.250] ([98.150.184.250:37732] helo=localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 38/5C-23744-97ACF0C4; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:08:09 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (parv [127.0.0.2]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFDE5C86 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:11:03 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o59HB3MD005662 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:11:03 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:11:02 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100609171102.GA1813@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> <20100609005847.GF37528@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100609005847.GF37528@guilt.hydra> Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:08:10 -0000 in message <20100609005847.GF37528@guilt.hydra>, wrote Chad Perrin thusly... > > On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 04:43:42AM -1000, parv@pair.com wrote: ... > > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty > > window after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". ... > I'm not sure what you mean by this. Empty window? Sorry, by "empty window" I meant the open office swriter window showing an empty, spanking new document (to start writing in). - parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 19:12:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508CF106566C for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4478FC16 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o59JCI7K079218; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:12:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:12:18 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jerry In-Reply-To: <20100608002922.E79A010656EE@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100610022120.U27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100608002922.E79A010656EE@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-163859902-1276102471=:27982" Content-ID: <20100610025722.R27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:12:59 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-163859902-1276102471=:27982 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: <20100610025722.P27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 3, Message: 22 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:08:34 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST) > Ian Smith articulated: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33 > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry > > wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200 > > > Harry Matthiesen Jensen articulated: > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +0000, Márcio C.G. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) > > > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use > > > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there > > > > > an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin > > > > > within firefox 3.6? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you > > > > Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-) > > > > > > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated > > > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in > > > '3.6.x' will become available. > > > > Dear Jerry, Ok, you whinged and I had a dig. I got deservedly walloped myself not long ago for whining about something likely within my power to help .. > I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a > serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist > within the FreeBSD framework. A quick investigation of other operating > systems would seem to indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this > regards. Now, I am sure that you have personally seen the white sheet > detailing the technical reasons for this and will be willing to share > it with me and perhaps others who might also be curious about the lack > of said product. .. so I deserve a bit of sarcasm :) My point was that, with exception of projects sponsored by the Foundation and work sponsored by various firms that simply need to get certain things done, FreeBSD isn't like a company in any position to 'put some people onto' any desired features; things happen when someone/s put _themselves_ onto it, because they want to see it happen, and enjoy the challenges of practicing their arts. Check out what Sun and indirectly Mozilla have to say about this: Why do I need Java 6 Update 10 and above for Firefox 3.6 and later versions? http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml What are the features and enhancements in the latest release of Java 6 Update10 (6u10)? http://java.com/en/download/help/features_java6update10.xml The 'features and enhancements' seem to be mostly about making updating easier on Windows, and because they've _chosen_ to drop support for the 'classic' way of identifying the JRE in use pre 3.6.0, they've _chosen_ to employ a level of instant obsolescence and forced upgrade that Adobe might be proud of. That's a big change from 3.5.x, and one that would be considered an ABI change requiring a new major version in FreeBSD. So as Chuck Swiger rightly said, if latest Firefox+Java matters to you, FreeBSD isn't the right solution just now .. until it matters enough to someone/s to make what seem likely very non-trivial changes to our Java and how it integrates with our kernel and userland. Way, way beyond me. > Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and > FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past > experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released > before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real > possibility. As I recall, nVidia required kernel changes in FreeBSD that had to wait for a major version bump (ie, to 8.x) to make it into a release version? > Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit: > > Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is > insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open > source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait. Microsoft is a company with massive resources to throw at any problems (or new means of cornering markets :) and people pay real money to use their products, so can at least hope for some sort of service on demand. The contrast with FreeBSD couldn't be much more stark, could it Jerry? If you want something fixed you a) do it yourself; b) work with other people who are doing it; c) offer to help test and debug and/or document development or d) at least offer useful critique on appropriate list/s, knowing that 'send code' is the most likely response from busy people. > Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more > interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a > fully serviceable, quality product. When was the last time you tried > getting a native FreeBSD driver for an 'N' class USB wireless > device? Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to > me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully > functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that > is just my 2₵. I'm not sure what you're meaning about 'bumping version numbers'; I find the pace of development of major versions pretty daunting myself these days - my 'hottest' programming was 20 to 40 years ago - and yet without that pace, all these new gadgets and drivers can't be developed to work within the new API/ABIs being built in -current as we speak. That's the obvious tension between rapid feature development and API/ABI stability. And I'm not sure it's very helpful thinking of FreeBSD as 'a product', but to paraphrase Chuck, different folks will see things differently. cheers, Ian --0-163859902-1276102471=:27982-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 9 23:09:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DD01065676 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maier.nathan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02E48FC18 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so3066340iwn.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:09:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4Z9L7EfVLzwj56KwmSl8KtNk6aWtOBBJ/G15MzoEXDI=; b=wglU/XCmrdKckg8yijIaMH8oiaLU9q4PzA6Qvl2+VXp7n1+P3ED8ZRZsDAShU2B+j+ 5ET1uCEI9NrdZfP+lOqkyj4ASW1AM/fSnZWYgJX5sFIfzOulQ2TeH4Nq248/kMK05C0M ATmrtPXLldM+2Nk/519RUN9BBH1fNKTTlPS50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E2V4soZE0F8S6xzIKWmXREiIu3Vamu/Jso2tftOOLwCiL+BXUcWP2fSnHaSz5svNlf XNt8wAVX+kdVw4JbipHRnGVfTr6vLsYUO/nWN1grs1jMxuFRaSWiaTmKs7ydDjN6n7zU sm6486DiOq4RYVCY3glv+kku5gSf7Waa9jqpk= Received: by 10.231.34.73 with SMTP id k9mr8567788ibd.105.1276123537836; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomos (c-24-15-68-119.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.15.68.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a8sm32885533ibi.5.2010.06.09.15.45.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:38:56 -0500 From: Nathan Peet Maier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100609173856.4e63208c@nomos> In-Reply-To: <20100607104630.363BC106566C@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20100607104630.363BC106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: Team Circadia X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:09:34 -0000 There is a webserver bundled with a framework called web2py. www.web2py.org. You can run it as a user from BSD or Linux. -Nate Maier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 00:28:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7191065675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFD38FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3733 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2010 00:28:47 -0000 Received: from g1.stradamotorsports.com (HELO [192.168.1.182]) (jcw@[64.81.163.42]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Jun 2010 00:28:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4C1031BF.3020703@speakeasy.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:28:47 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions References: <4C0F06B4.9070300@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <4C0F06B4.9070300@speakeasy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Configure PMBR to Find Loader on GPT Disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:28:49 -0000 Jason C. Wells wrote: > After setting up a GPT disk and installing the boot blocks with: > > # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad4 > > The system wants to boot: > > 0:ad(0p2)/boot/kernel/kernel > > I manually intervene to cause the system to boot: > > 1:ad(5p8)/boot/loader > > How do I configure the boot blocks to do this without human > intervention on a GPT system? boot0cfg doesn't seem to be the correct > tool for this job. The docs and various guides around the net could use a little help. Please correct me below. My C and assembly is non-existent and I discovered the information below by trial and error and reading the source. My subject header is wrong. The pmbr is working just like it should. It is gptboot that is failing to find my boot loader. I found a work around for the non-configurability of the pmbr/gptboot code. gptboot searchs for the first UFS partition and tries to use that partition as root. In my partition scheme, the first partition was for user data. The presence of boot.config in the first partition will cause gptboot to boot some other disk and partition of your choice. In my case, I added 1:ad(5p8)/boot/loader to boot.config on 0:ad(4p2) to allow my system to boot automatically. Also, some guides online magically select the size of 64k for the freebsd-boot partition. This is not just magic. It's mandatory. The pmbr boot code assume that the partition is not larger than 64k and complains if it is larger. Ref my earlier message on that topic. The bad part about all of this is that I intend to build a mirror from two disks. Will my boot process be brittle because the boot.config is not actually located in / where it truly belongs? If I pull bios disk 0, then when I boot, bios disk 1 will be renumbered to bios disk 0. The boot.config file won't be there. The system will fail to boot. It sure would be nice if 'gpart bootcode' would accept '1:ad(5p8)/boot/loader' as an option so I don't have to be sticking boot.config files in weird locations. Regards, Jason A partition of type freebsd-boot is NOT where you mount /boot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:07:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294ED1065675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiza21@comclark.com) Received: from avmxsmtp3.comclark.com (avmxsmtp3.comclark.com [202.69.191.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B678FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:07:49 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsUAM7XD0zKRa1bPGdsb2JhbAAHh2mWdwEBAQE1J78WhRgEg0c X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,395,1272816000"; d="scan'208";a="3142185" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.0.10.3]) ([202.69.173.91]) by avmxsmtp2.comclark.com with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2010 09:07:47 +0800 Message-ID: <4C103AE1.30305@comclark.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:07:45 +0800 From: Aiza User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: freebsd-update upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:07:50 -0000 The upgrade function requires the -r newrelease flag. The manpage does not state the formate of the newrelease value. Is it just the release number like this 8.0 or is it like this 8.0-RELEASE? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:10:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3F4106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35EC8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so2011195vws.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o7B6ZcfaMvcJ+vCvytE7iX9he4IebmHK5TQlExWP/is=; b=viQwWKHLQD0p+WWFbb8qjXhhUaCDolVJfobBtE8HlogKMHPG+gdWOdOIdeMNrGhxaz tW0C4vRqJ4RMsvrr7CMPa24kH8xvCmND9sk+lC2wZlWhjqMnZs9U8LVEEH3ra2YUat9D Eyrp+QfSHY0irSfdLxeXBpdpX8Wux4hOUE+cs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZZX6FT+Ka+9tz/3j/qSVzr/0Zwo13o9kvJOvjemMBCd9rUe+6NIum9TTYtt0qhspTZ 0hpChAf5tTcDae8rEX7TlX5udXReu3mIOaHDHa02n2IE/8xfIsdtEuderqWtDZgF/rpu xFp2AEO6IobbfAr8l/507g2HMimq0sAMRiIAM= Received: by 10.224.65.170 with SMTP id j42mr739731qai.100.1276132213895; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b12sm1286185vcp.17.2010.06.09.18.10.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C103B73.3050003@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:10:11 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C103AE1.30305@comclark.com> In-Reply-To: <4C103AE1.30305@comclark.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:10:15 -0000 On 6/9/10 9:07 PM, Aiza wrote: > The upgrade function requires the -r newrelease flag. > The manpage does not state the formate of the newrelease value. > > Is it just the release number like this 8.0 or is it like this 8.0-RELEASE? 8.0-RELEASE. I believe you can pull 8.0-RELEASE-p2 using -r as well. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:13:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C6A1065679 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thgesteves@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020DB8FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so6410141wwb.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:13:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kxJ9BF/SZqwu8TbbCt7Kf2yerAy2TByeC5uvowTOkUI=; b=ctCU/0I2g6k3OwTwCUEJFXKIYKCqYph3/1SOaj8TzuvpM4xJC/hJLtUqdOwrfDp9CW lacY07cQZBYfAOnw3CYyVRyWJ7TFuyA8eC/WTHgEFdMqB3HZHBMC7bLx61r+RCTHpAR6 e/pNb1CVNJvSHgrDhqeFGdPNhgvs2QklwK/6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RP5xq0fc7S+0FjWx+sVNM3uSXybdojpaIJP1GUGOrPBf2xLeUYkldeaqAzl/fU50kw GX6oW3F3ZAVJDx8l+xYhCqs552ARwCVfbK7nXzwpXOTbi9OM8Z2TwEQBMAOn8z6Aj5WB bnBn7UlXjHfjcaCQMTcLMu5MTIVt7WVCQA/Zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.3 with SMTP id t3mr156960wee.89.1276132410501; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.71.71 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:13:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C101A87.1020908@freebsd.org> <4C103659.5040607@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:13:30 -0300 Message-ID: From: Thiago Esteves To: Joe Marcus Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: netatalk-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: [Netatalk-devel] Fwd: unable to install netatalk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:13:32 -0000 Thank you very much, Joe. After update my ports tree again I got the patch and the issue was resolved. Regards, Thiago On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Thiago Esteves wrote: > It seems that there isn't any patch for dsi.h on netatalk/files directory: > > Prescott:files root$ ls -la > total 16 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 4 18:24 . > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jun 9 21:34 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1987 Mar 26 21:13 netatalk.in > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 929 May 30 14:03 patch-config_Makefile.in > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1320 May 30 14:03 patch-config_netatalk.conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 428 May 30 14:03 patch-configure > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 May 30 14:03 patch-etc-uams_Makefile.in > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 585 May 30 14:03 patch-etc_afpd_afp_options.c > Prescott:files root$ > > > I am going to try to update ports tree again. > > Regards, > Thiago > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > >> On 6/9/10 8:38 PM, Thiago Esteves wrote: >> > Hello Joe, >> > >> > Thanks for your time. I have updated the ports tree, cleaned up the >> > netatalk package on distfiles and tried to build the port again but I am >> > got the same error: >> >> It builds for me on 6-STABLE. I thought it would build on all 6.X, but >> 6.3 is too old to be properly supported. >> >> That said, you might not have gotten the necessary updates. Make sure >> you have a patch for include/atalk/dsi.h in your netatalk/files directory. >> >> Joe >> >> > >> > In file included from dsi_attn.c:17: >> > ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:63: error: field `server' has incomplete type >> > ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:63: error: field `client' has incomplete type >> > gmake[3]: *** [dsi_attn.lo] Error 1 >> > gmake[3]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/dsi' >> > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk' >> > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> > gmake[1]: Leaving directory >> `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1' >> > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > Many thanks, >> > Thiago >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Joe Marcus Clarke > > > wrote: >> > >> > On 6/9/10 3:16 PM, Thiago Esteves wrote: >> > > Hello Marcus, >> > > >> > > Sorry to disturb you, but I have posted that issue on three >> mailing >> > > lists and haven't got any answers. I saw that you are the >> > maintainer for >> > > netatalk port on FreeBSD, probably you can help me. Please check >> the >> > > issue described on the email below. >> > >> > I just committed a fix for this. >> > >> > Joe >> > >> > > >> > > Thanks for your time. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Thiago >> > > >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > From: *Thiago Esteves* > > > > >> >> > > Date: Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:12 PM >> > > Subject: [Netatalk-devel] Fwd: unable to install netatalk >> > > To: netatalk-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hello all, >> > > >> > > I don't know if it is the correct place to request such kind of >> > > support, but I haven't >> > > got any answers from netatalk-admins. >> > > >> > > Could someone help me with the issue described below? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Thiago >> > > >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > From: *Thiago Esteves* > > > > >> >> > > Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:41 AM >> > > Subject: unable to install netatalk >> > > To: netatalk-admins@lists.sourceforge.net >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hello all, >> > > >> > > I am trying to install netatalk on FreeBSD 6.3 p15 but I am >> > > experiencing difficulties, it seems that some >> > > code can not be compiled, please check output attached. >> > > >> > > /I would appreciate any help/ that is given, if you can explain >> > that's >> > > even better. >> > > >> > > Many thanks, >> > > Thiago >> > > >> > > Output: >> > > >> > > *libtool: link: (cd .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a && ar x >> > > >> > >> "/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/cnid/tdb/.libs/libcnid_tdb.a") >> > > libtool: link: ar cru .libs/libcnid.a .libs/cnid.o >> .libs/cnid_init.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_dbd.a/cnid_dbd.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_last.a/cnid_last.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_add.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_close.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_delete.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_get.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_lookup.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_open.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_resolve.o >> > > .libs/libcnid.lax/libcnid_tdb.a/cnid_tdb_update.o >> > > libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libcnid.a >> > > libtool: link: rm -fr .libs/libcnid.lax >> > > libtool: link: ( cd ".libs" && rm -f "libcnid.la >> > " && >> > > ln -s "../libcnid.la " >> > "libcnid.la " ) >> > > gmake[4]: Leaving directory >> > > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/cnid' >> > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory >> > > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/cnid' >> > > Making all in dsi >> > > gmake[3]: Entering directory >> > > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/dsi' >> > > /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile cc >> -std=gnu99 >> > > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. -I../../include -I../../sys >> > > -I../../include -D_U_="__attribute__((unused))" -O2 >> > -fno-strict-aliasing >> > > -pipe -I../../sys -MT dsi_attn.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dsi_attn.Tpo >> -c -o >> > > dsi_attn.lo dsi_attn.c >> > > libtool: compile: cc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../.. >> > > -I../../include -I../../sys -I../../include >> > > "-D_U_=__attribute__((unused))" -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >> > > -I../../sys -MT dsi_attn.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dsi_attn.Tpo -c >> > > dsi_attn.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/dsi_attn.o >> > > In file included from dsi_attn.c:17: >> > > ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:63: error: field `server' has incomplete >> > type >> > > ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:63: error: field `client' has incomplete >> > type >> > > gmake[3]: *** [dsi_attn.lo] Error 1 >> > > gmake[3]: Leaving directory >> > > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk/dsi' >> > > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory >> > > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1/libatalk' >> > > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-2.1.1' >> > > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 >> > > *** Error code 1 >> > > >> > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/netatalk. >> > > *** Error code 1 >> > > >> > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/netatalk.* >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> > > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> > > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Netatalk-devel mailing list >> > > Netatalk-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > >> > > > > > >> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/netatalk-devel >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Joe Marcus Clarke >> > FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org >> > FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome >> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Joe Marcus Clarke >> FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org >> FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:26:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFF01065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863A88FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.173.91]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:26:27 -0700 Message-ID: <4C103F3E.3000007@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:26:22 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4C103AE1.30305@comclark.com> <4C103B73.3050003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C103B73.3050003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2010 01:26:27.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2ACE1A0:01CB083B] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:26:27 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On 6/9/10 9:07 PM, Aiza wrote: >> The upgrade function requires the -r newrelease flag. >> The manpage does not state the formate of the newrelease value. >> >> Is it just the release number like this 8.0 or is it like this >> 8.0-RELEASE? > > 8.0-RELEASE. I believe you can pull 8.0-RELEASE-p2 using -r as well. > > Regards, > Thanks. Have another question. When freebsd-update first entered the ports system, it was limited to updating systems that not been changed from the basic release. IE: Recompiling the kernel adding devices or removing them. Is that still true now? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:30:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F6C1065673; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx3.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962388FC1C; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o5A1UEM9021805; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:30:14 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:30:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4C0F4410.40900@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C0F4410.40900@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006100330.14618.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Eitan Adler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:30:26 -0000 On Wednesday 09 June 2010 09:34:40 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 09/06/2010 08:15:23, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see it? > > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me > > eitan 96325 0.0 0.0 1856 724 5 RL+ 10:14AM 0:00.00 grep Me > > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me > > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ !1! ]% > > When you run that pipeline the OS doesn't start both programs exactly > simultaneously. It starts ps(1) first, then grep(1) together with > creating the pipeline by connecting ps's stdout to grep's stdin. > Depending on system load and various other factors, this may allow ps(1) > to grab the snapshot of the process table that it works on before > grep(1) has started. It's a race condition. > > Whether you see this effect or not will depend very much on system > conformation and load. I can't reproduce the effect on a lightly loaded > dual processor machine, which always shows the grep process, whereas on > a single processor virtual machine running under VirtualBox, I never see > grep in the ps output unless I renice the ps(1) process. > I would like to add that you can avoid the issue entirely by using this command: % ps aux -p `pgrep sh` USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 1326 0.0 0.1 6680 3664 ?? Is 1:09AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd pyotr 1460 0.0 0.1 3972 2696 v0 I 1:09AM 0:00.02 -zsh (zsh) -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:30:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F6C1065673; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx3.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962388FC1C; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id o5A1UEM9021805; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:30:14 +0200 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:30:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4C0F4410.40900@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C0F4410.40900@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006100330.14618.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Eitan Adler , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:30:26 -0000 On Wednesday 09 June 2010 09:34:40 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 09/06/2010 08:15:23, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see it? > > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me > > eitan 96325 0.0 0.0 1856 724 5 RL+ 10:14AM 0:00.00 grep Me > > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ ]% ps aux|grep Me > > [eitan@AlphaBeta ~ !1! ]% > > When you run that pipeline the OS doesn't start both programs exactly > simultaneously. It starts ps(1) first, then grep(1) together with > creating the pipeline by connecting ps's stdout to grep's stdin. > Depending on system load and various other factors, this may allow ps(1) > to grab the snapshot of the process table that it works on before > grep(1) has started. It's a race condition. > > Whether you see this effect or not will depend very much on system > conformation and load. I can't reproduce the effect on a lightly loaded > dual processor machine, which always shows the grep process, whereas on > a single processor virtual machine running under VirtualBox, I never see > grep in the ps output unless I renice the ps(1) process. > I would like to add that you can avoid the issue entirely by using this command: % ps aux -p `pgrep sh` USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 1326 0.0 0.1 6680 3664 ?? Is 1:09AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd pyotr 1460 0.0 0.1 3972 2696 v0 I 1:09AM 0:00.02 -zsh (zsh) -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 01:39:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37D106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070CA8FC1D for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm34 with SMTP id 34so648105yxm.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:39:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2Saw7E/e/9gbA7kOasu4S8Q1vJzGbEAi8yEZ9QpEvMk=; b=G0lJahmv/dONSLG+u1u5/a88xjq8dvWTPKNT3/9vwSFV1/CBurZ4SDkrCWfPPrq4He CLPHATvI8Mb4n7uGkcXCqeSKAwxfZi7FDaul+JCtNi7sDXlAYK2drPppZIxXXrv7B62G qTcov3P0Gyxh09ktFyVQCNm2qapy+xIi1W6qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hg9ZM569zLXv75W/yoVQ8ZB/u5mL5oivHq+1AmO1En7uGIWaYeBVndKJzmTHZylvon CGQCDg6f4JIWcivvM2AjJq/Fxv7nkWuamHE/Rris2DDc3ghW8FrvijNRjLfEMEJNDyVf 881u3jaaqKaNZ5NkkrBmaAPPwzyy0u5LQsWrg= Received: by 10.229.70.196 with SMTP id e4mr7517764qcj.185.1276133962622; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm1319012vcp.44.2010.06.09.18.39.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C104248.8070906@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:39:20 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd1 References: <4C103AE1.30305@comclark.com> <4C103B73.3050003@gmail.com> <4C103F3E.3000007@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4C103F3E.3000007@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:39:24 -0000 On 6/9/10 9:26 PM, Fbsd1 wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >> On 6/9/10 9:07 PM, Aiza wrote: >>> The upgrade function requires the -r newrelease flag. >>> The manpage does not state the formate of the newrelease value. >>> >>> Is it just the release number like this 8.0 or is it like this >>> 8.0-RELEASE? >> >> 8.0-RELEASE. I believe you can pull 8.0-RELEASE-p2 using -r as well. >> >> Regards, >> > Thanks. > > Have another question. > > When freebsd-update first entered the ports system, it was limited to > updating systems that not been changed from the basic release. IE: > Recompiling the kernel adding devices or removing them. Is that still > true now? > If you have a custom kernel installed, freebsd-update will overwrite it with GENERIC, which means you will need to recompile your custom kernel. Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 02:08:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D9A1065675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry.bell@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679828FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so2745880gwj.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:08:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ys9bqVyWLVKRQXSpcore75ip2lUNM7FLciouGRXHPvg=; b=Q54wXUAVF/WRBvAmDhVh/qKcs7PCluvEhY+o3KTi+a+gN9TUs4suFroasiih7YLMel 70C6CMvf0YA1k334i7uaseC5mWTedFIeekb6bCB14QuutZ6b9i1CAYCkMiL/rBwOgFNM W9PVTcczuI7Fqst0AINnagWOaqJPvKFGGfJIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VB9T2VV19a4QmGbU+pLwMNSwNS7CdwqWb9S7nMe90Z17TqxgYTA687KrgeAWHv7/x7 zFowMeDLOiFmOciKA4eyv74DzFCByhxaRq7q0NwGKPPWRwQlsHnFD/99x83P7Yghc+dR LNy6WKqb3JcZ8e/7m+ziDaPbEITorNESPiw7Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.222.144 with SMTP id ig16mr7557158qcb.74.1276133905919; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.193.14 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 21:38:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jerry Bell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Building amd64 kernel problems (missing kernel configuration files) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:08:33 -0000 Hello, I am have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 and need to install an amd64 kernel. I have copied /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC to /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/JERRY Then, I run "make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY" in /usr/src and get the following error: ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (JERRY). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. It seems to want JERRY to be in i386/conf. If I copy JERRY to i386/conf and run "make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY", I get the following error: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for JERRY started on Wed Jun 9 20:50:30 EDT 2010 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> JERRY mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin config -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERRY /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY: unknown option "HAMMER" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I know I'm missing something simple, but can't quite figure out what it is. Thanks, Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 03:01:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0274A106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B848FC1F for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so2134894vws.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:01:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Wv0rVSCmpksHaYRRVA6lrjJ6ojtutDAPkKVn0yTGuJs=; b=LfyQLKPyNgpQTHDoZiCuHAdVrCF2Gp18LN52+b6x48AUgDki70hBkp7m/Ia03/SDXg QNLMX5PYPEhHiH52HfJ4yTsyIqNPrbWPiT6DF9KXqDPZtxodHhtcHzso8Y5Y6a1+dBWQ kpeheybleB6VD3olQuh0eLSV0Zd/2hhUQLW+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oGyg3rklea5nIdBHztEC6o6sXIQU89BnjDh7raViDz/UAkgUigWoDS30vAMa8r6toa dD/Q4NuDv7fgnDXmp5+Trojyid2Qvmrbx6lN7pXjp9QyNVxMfdAXf4kefQW+afhc5URE piF1gPiFJvOpZHTyBDGXmv1YQbRomrEdZSKHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.88.90 with SMTP id z26mr2063697qal.113.1276138910883; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.99.67 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:01:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:01:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jerry Bell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building amd64 kernel problems (missing kernel configuration files) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:01:53 -0000 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Bell wrote: > I am have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 and need to install an amd64 > kernel. > > I have copied /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC to > /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/JERRY > > Then, I run "make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY" in /usr/src and get the > following error: > ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (JERRY). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > It seems to want JERRY to be in i386/conf. If I copy JERRY to i386/conf > and > run "make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY", I get the following error: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Kernel build for JERRY started on Wed Jun 9 20:50:30 EDT 2010 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ===> JERRY > mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; > > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > config -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERRY /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY: unknown option "HAMMER" > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > I know I'm missing something simple, but can't quite figure out what it is. > I think you have to set TARGET_ARCH=amd64 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 03:06:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE37106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560198FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so6463528wwb.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:reply-to:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FXJK2cKDAhA0pV+YUDMiEOmWKQqrMnpFHilN3Z1rEao=; b=B4OVz8/uEa+Vj5EfJqaCZyjeLVL09e5X0Drk7KSmUYuGge6fmQU+lNPgZvPBS3HkOu krkXhpMpheUjTxZmjJZygNX9gd2X1bqLAGviEsHO5NaMgJ+Mm9IjDGfxyJU9AXGDgYpF 44kmWb64nS+GykD41l6zs85uuKnzFRoBP9kv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=B6obbxrqpD+IhPh+iD41kkXSSPciR6msxLhqdoOdIIrI6nRPWEb1NDAwh78bzPlNVs sg7+pIwLbsK8GkQpFWwzgAx2I8w9GEIsKPR/HD6+EfOsKcBtJo8I56mvBdfy4S03RW1g FUw64Fppn2X9C7af+LEaQPe6gEAGzse+Y50lk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.137 with SMTP id a9mr169233wel.63.1276139196975; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.183.5 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:06:36 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Jerry Bell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Building amd64 kernel problems (missing kernel configuration files) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:06:40 -0000 > I am have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 and need to install an amd64 > kernel. > > I have copied /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC to > /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/JERRY Support for cross-building is limited in the FreeBSD base system. /usr/src/Makefile states: "# If TARGET=machine (e.g. ia64, sparc64, ...) is specified you can # cross build world for other machine types using the buildworld target, # and once the world is built you can cross build a kernel using the # buildkernel target." but there are unwritten limitations, and this requires some care. See, for example, developers running into problems even with i386 --> amd64: http://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2006/09/cross-building-freebsd.html The fact that you are asking how to do this on the freebsd-questions list probably means that you should _not_ be cross-building. _Don't_ try to run an amd64 kernel with i386 world, or vice versa. With some patches and tweaking you may get a few things to work, but you're asking for trouble. It would be better to get an amd64 installation disk, back up your data, and do a re-installation from scratch, or at least a binary upgrade of the existing base system, and then build a custom kernel and world, if that's what you want to do. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 03:39:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F6E106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinay.parisa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C213E8FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so2799693gwj.13 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=J02m2i8gZT0rmhHgptoszYWdyl0DVwnnMjRg0Mhar/4=; b=dx2aXSVsBP/nLFAkKv5/0EgWDfT0qPIl1uRjplESUzsB1eI1K8sb0hkG38f6ju2KyT cRv4zLr3RWa7ZV2PGq79SG2WoQbLTegk5nmgkXp7r1Rm4yzNlYGKf/PS5xsZeuxCnsmD Snclmu08WLW47C7qN92w1Od5keJ8kZF/n1kcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=rcodEbDdnrmZGAhUYtnC/litHanmq7JzuL/bdLpwcptiMpqzPOpUqu5bCbwrtVGlVc ESu3q/yE6A4+PWfu4vBQoGIEzKOEKtI4PCHl+cXBrMXNor4m3IEUOuTsYdeAFsIVhMwc O0QFKpn2JhhXRiRLOtgid/EucRQnj5Lix2+iE= Received: by 10.229.214.70 with SMTP id gz6mr200204qcb.197.1276139501667; Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:11:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.184.77 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:11:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinay Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Question on gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:39:06 -0000 Hi, I am new to FreeBSD. I have installed FreeBSD 6.3 and was playing with gvinum. I do not see /dev/gvinum tree. I have these modules loaded. freebsd63# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 23 0xc0400000 7b2d2c kernel 2 1 0xc0bb3000 cd44 geom_bde.ko 3 1 0xc0bc0000 3a48 geom_ccd.ko 4 1 0xc0bc4000 5a54 geom_concat.ko 5 1 0xc0bca000 f7b8 geom_eli.ko 6 2 0xc0bda000 1b0b4 crypto.ko 7 3 0xc0bf6000 ad04 zlib.ko 8 1 0xc0c01000 5220 geom_gate.ko 9 1 0xc0c07000 546c geom_label.ko 10 1 0xc0c0d000 55e0 geom_md.ko 11 1 0xc0c13000 13224 geom_mirror.ko 12 1 0xc0c27000 4028 geom_nop.ko 13 1 0xc0c2c000 15a5c geom_raid3.ko 14 1 0xc0c42000 5970 geom_shsec.ko 15 1 0xc0c48000 6c7c geom_stripe.ko 16 1 0xc0c4f000 39f8 geom_uzip.ko 17 1 0xc0c53000 11940 geom_vinum.ko 18 1 0xc0c65000 5c304 acpi.ko 19 1 0xc297c000 19000 linux.ko Can you let me know what am i missing? Regards VP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 04:07:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9A61065670 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DD78FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:07:15 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAC7/D0x5LWG+/2dsb2JhbACYL4Y0cr43hRgEg0k Received: from ppp121-45-97-190.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.97.190]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2010 13:37:14 +0930 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:37:12 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006101337.12988.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: mingw cross compiler -- cc1 issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:07:16 -0000 I have installed mingw32 from ports:- mingw32-gcc-4.4.0_1,1 mingw32-binutils-2.20,1 mingw32-bin-msvcrt-r3.18.a3.14 OS:- FreeBSD xi.home 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0 Running:- %mingw32-gcc dummy.c appears to execute without problems, producing a.exe Running the alternative:- %/usr/local/mingw32/bin/gcc dummy.c leads to an error announcing cc1 is not found. Since /usr/local/mingw32/bin/gcc and /usr/local/bin/mingw32-gcc are hard linked it would seem that the executable code uses the calling name to trace its way to cc1 (/usr/local/libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/cc1) Replace /usr/local/mingw32/bin/gcc with a symbolic link to /usr/local/bin/mingw32-gcc and it seems to work. Have I missed something in installing mingw32? Is it not intended that /usr/local/mingw32/bin/gcc should be called? Is there some problem with the port? Or is there some quite different issue? Help please, Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 05:04:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8381065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4853B8FC21 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678E53D821; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5A53mNu002070; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:03:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:03:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20100610070347.e2b6f422.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100609005847.GF37528@guilt.hydra> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100607112150.6824a94f@icy.localdomain> <20100607164035.GC2102@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100608144342.GA1851@holstein.holy.cow> <20100609005847.GF37528@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:04:01 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:58:47 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > With my old OO.o install (from package, not port), I haven't had any > problems. The thing even "exports" to PDF without Java. Same here - I still have a v2 installation on another system that has been installed by package, and it just works. It was the last OpenOffice I could install via packages (localized, with dictio- naries included, without unneeded stuff like KDE, Gnome, CUPS and Java). > Since then, however, I haven't been able to find a working OO.o binary > package for FreeBSD, so I haven't upgraded my OO.o version. I have found packages, but they don't work for me. I do always get "** (soffice:579): WARNING **: unable to get gail version number", but well, other things like Java in Firefox, or Acrobat Reader, also don't work, so I put those aside and will try again in some weeks. :-) > > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window > > after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... > > I'm not sure what you mean by this. Empty window? It doesn't show the splash screen. After 27 seconds, I get an empty word processing document window (Intel P4 2 GHz, 768 MB). If you need information about command line options, they can be obtained this way: % /usr/local/bin/openoffice.org-3.0.0-swriter -help The -nologo option is explained as "don't show startup screen". In the usual unpolite way, there doesn't seem to be a man page. Documentation is stored arbitrarily on the Web. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 05:55:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07074106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7342D8FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-54-73.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.54.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5A5tclk085241 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:55:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADAA7BCB for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:55:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0FUYIIrphxXq for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from matthias-fechners-macbook.local (tmo-100-229.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.100.229]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AB80C7BAD for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:55:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C107E10.1040808@fechner.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:54:24 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C0FAA47.40608@fechner.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:55:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: davical upgrade problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:55:46 -0000 Hi, Am 10.06.10 07:12, schrieb n dhert: > I have not php5-pdo_pgsql-5.3.2_1 on mystem since this is for PHP5 > version 3.x, not for PHP5 version 2.x, which is the version of PHP I > use on my system... Two months ago PHP5-3.2 was automatically > installed as part of my daily portupgrades, but users on my > (multiuser) system immediatly had a myriad of error messages, since > they have applications that use PHP 5.2 instead of 5.3... I was forced > to revert to PHP 5.2 > But I do have on my system: > # pkg_info | grep pdo_ > php52-pdo_mysql-5.2.13_2 The pdo_mysql shared extension for php > php52-pdo_pgsql-5.2.13_2 The pdo_pgsql shared extension for php > php52-pdo_sqlite-5.2.13_2 The pdo_sqlite shared extension for php > How to make Davical use these? please always reply to the mailing list and not privat to me, you can also use the list reply button from thunderbird. I have installed the following packages: php5-pdo-5.3.2_1 The pdo shared extension for php php5-pdo_pgsql-5.3.2_1 The pdo_pgsql shared extension for php php5-pdo_sqlite-5.3.2_1 The pdo_sqlite shared extension for php It was running with php5.2 before here, so the version is not a problem. If the lib is not found check your php configuration (extensions.conf) you can also use phpinfo to see if it is loaded, i you do not know I'm talking about, use google to learn a little bit about php. :) And please no ToFu. Bye, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 06:01:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155D91065677 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEECC8FC21 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5A61Ih0066963 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4C107FAE.40000@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:01:18 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100523 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ifconfig can't clear 'monitor' mode on the wireless device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:01:19 -0000 Over a year ago I filed this PR: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2009-February/034115.html There is no response, and this problem is still there. Is there any way to clear monitor mode from network device? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 07:45:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B3F106567C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C878FC25 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:45:47 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=naeLwYxml1LmrnFGPqYzriVKNLBi/G1j92qCQlfA8T4mIsr1E3LTyrkba8miqcnF15sxVr7lfMJjkZSBz+nrLVzZN6RhhJfDjYZVJ3j8xW2x7manDe23X/s0cg6TJHH8; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:52945) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMcSO-000ONL-CR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:45:44 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:45:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4C0F4410.40900@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006100330.14618.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201006100330.14618.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:4) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:45:48 -0000 On Thursday 10 June 2010 03:30:14 Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Wednesday 09 June 2010 09:34:40 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 09/06/2010 08:15:23, Eitan Adler wrote: > > > Why do I sometimes see the grep in ps's output and sometimes not see > > > it? > > > > When you run that pipeline the OS doesn't start both programs exactly > > simultaneously. [...] It's a race condition. > > I would like to add that you can avoid the issue entirely by using this > command: > % ps aux -p `pgrep sh` [output snipped due to bad wrapping] Or the old trick: ps | grep '[s]h' Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 09:47:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADFD1065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:47:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BA18FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:47:46 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=na2DWavV1/dWHB0r0fjxHP0KcqtYFKZ/T2hrN3E0WXq+9jS8SHMRJWIgGKNp9lAhV+lRDNQrpyYmKRfhOXYPj7A1z0EAT5eTeBSS1EMBrvIl7fzPfzyNRBTacwZTYmKq; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:57058) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMeMO-0003Hu-LC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:47:40 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:47:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:1) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:47:47 -0000 So, it would appear that Midphase hosting are still incapable of working out why their ticketing system is sending replies with forged From: address to posters to the freebsd-questions mailing list. (Their support queue is at mpcustomer.com). I'm assuming the list admins already have examples to work with, but here is a set of headers from the reply I got to my last list post, in case it's any help. Return-Path: Received: from mx.ru.ac.za (mx.ru.ac.za [2001:4200:1010:0:250:56ff:fe8d:2ebb]) by imap.ru.ac.za (Cyrus v###) with LMTPA; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:05:39 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve Envelope-to: j.mckeown@ru.ac.za Delivery-date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:05:39 +0200 Received: from secure.mpcustomer.com ([208.43.146.75]:46852) by mx.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMcld-000Eww-H3 for j.mckeown@ru.ac.za; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:05:39 +0200 Received: by secure.mpcustomer.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4841C1532997; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 (CDT) To: Jonathan McKeown Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer (phpmailer.sourceforge.net) [version 2.0.4] X-Uberinst: uber_phase-support X-Mailer: Ubersmith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 11:25:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659C81065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97728FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-54-73.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.54.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5ABP4ec060008 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:25:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FF07AD5 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:25:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kCqv0mRG6Bi9 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:24:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-10-27-1-64.internal.epo.org (unknown [192.168.20.6]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 29F5D7AC5 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:24:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:24:55 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:25:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:25:12 -0000 Hi, Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 > From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com > Message-ID: > I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. It is really anyoing. I had already contact with the postmaster and he was unable to do anything. Bye, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 11:43:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A2F1065672 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E0A8FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-54-73.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.54.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5ABhCJw064349 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A0D7EFA for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 945FIQwLdB6X for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-10-27-1-64.internal.epo.org (unknown [192.168.20.6]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 758517EE6 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C10CCBB.5040506@fechner.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:30:03 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:43:20 -0000 Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > I'm assuming the list admins already have examples to work with, but here is a > set of headers from the reply I got to my last list post, in case it's any > help. > for everyone how does not want this mails anymore but into your /etc/mail/access the following line: Connect:secure.mpcustomer.com ERROR:"550 We don't accept mail from spammers" Bye, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 11:47:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4F8106566B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=770f0e971=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F13F8FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.20]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2010 13:18:20 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (143.245.9.16) by exchh1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.234.1; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:18:20 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5ABIKXY014344 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:18:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o5ABIK3O014343 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:18:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:18:20 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100610111820.GA58452@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3, gnome2.30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:47:51 -0000 Hi, On my system (FreeBSD 7.3 AMD64, system & kernel current as per today) it takes awully long to start up gnome (2.30) - "awfully long" meaning 2-3 minutes (this is on a Intel quadcore-CPU with 4GB RAM!) In my /etc/rc.conf I've got gnome_enable="YES" I've already ruled out the usual suspect being a missing/wrong entry in /etc/hosts (http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20); my hostname ist resolvable including reverse-resolution, plus I've got the entries in my /etc/hosts. Is there any way to speed up gnome startup - or at least a pointer as to where I can start looking for the cause of the problem? Thanks in advance for any clue, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 11:58:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD53106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302B78FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm34 with SMTP id 34so751564yxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:58:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=yogFX7FThOsuNXy8ccWyG0YJBDlU6+kvR2tE4rjd3+E=; b=flXCEPfzEOx7gbHIc8iL+JYoYYsN/bDxAJhEpxOAjRSsSb3njuwN+MTlt7aHpCUcD2 DahnyRD2ZL7ypGLTHsN2xKjilfSFdzKaY5wPogDLVCRH6/peqV/QnejEe2wH5sOhZAjw FWlMdTbPgOVtsrE8T75xXvuqiZPgQmRQjVU5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=QECpgSKnGQkQ2k/LE8LidQ/dph/aUNxKljbtmZ0PpwQWHYvbRo8Pw19ZMiWgVb7tqm qj3otiCoc0QdOytutggAgT0SqE+J1ui6FSa7/kLlHMtyd8TTytM2u0erh1wcfCpDufgI 2BeC6YgB+ngwOj+oa6nJYPautFBIbQ8LPsfgU= Received: by 10.150.93.14 with SMTP id q14mr1187799ybb.307.1276171132890; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:58:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: peter harrison Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:58:52 -0700 Message-ID: <-916596320286357326@unknownmsgid> To: Nathan Peet Maier , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: RE: Small webserver recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:58:55 -0000 Thanks for the recommendation. I'm pretty much settled on thttpd now though - small, does cgi, no dependencies. Thanks, Peter. -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Peet Maier Sent: 09 June 2010 23:38 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations There is a webserver bundled with a framework called web2py. www.web2py.org. You can run it as a user from BSD or Linux. -Nate Maier _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 12:06:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093621065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18558FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so3059074gwj.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:06:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.14.5 with SMTP id 5mr1668924ybn.17.1276171608601; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.52.11 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:06:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.185] In-Reply-To: <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:06:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Matthias Fechner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:06:53 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Hi, > > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: >> >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? >> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 >> From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com >> Message-ID: >> > > I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain mpcustomer.com > that should solve the problem. I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. -- Rob Farmer > It is really anyoing. I had already contact with the postmaster and he was > unable to do anything. > > Bye, > Matthias > > -- > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build > bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce > bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 12:14:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EF51065675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9545D8FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so693854fxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LeAsu4pD7oFDPa1mp8AUR/kp92sfqWoDv5yxyJMDYUc=; b=i8t+PrDatsnVdJwTdAzR+z/u2cB6+jGHET0nl8yiVkjgpecIJRxqSlp7bNQOHJQTSM Drb3UA2omgI7LnLcIqGDvTtgL3jqYHeTxIh6iCa3ckjiPgt2D+Y7YSbdBP8bky3hCWpv x2mWobBHui+nkUpNKu36pTmNYB22I/+QKX3o4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ymy9FVPy4M+a8Ywe3qxVXdYaDoEF/wt9wejPl+piypObAz1u7Unbo4QbkFVdxSJqf7 cYHl5Y8FhmbVGnYnWoCELNIr8yXSv5W10mfBXdlnMiAATKhPqw2UOoEDz+XDUsBNUQHz 0scCwhDWWNyRae1yrWDJ4GOZgHziHIX/RlFYA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.193 with SMTP id n1mr4423hbg.162.1276172058397; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.132.194 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100610111820.GA58452@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20100610111820.GA58452@aurora.oekb.co.at> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:14:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Ewald Jenisch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3, gnome2.30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:14:20 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > On my system (FreeBSD 7.3 AMD64, system & kernel current as per today) > it takes awully long to start up gnome (2.30) - "awfully long" meaning > 2-3 minutes (this is on a Intel quadcore-CPU with 4GB RAM!) > > In my /etc/rc.conf I've got > > gnome_enable="YES" > > I've already ruled out the usual suspect being a missing/wrong entry > in /etc/hosts (http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20); my > hostname ist resolvable including reverse-resolution, plus I've got > the entries in my /etc/hosts. > > Is there any way to speed up gnome startup - or at least a pointer as > to where I can start looking for the cause of the problem? > > Thanks in advance for any clue, > -ewald > One possibility may be that X system is trying to auto-detect your hardware which is taking time . Checking X configuration files and making them conforming to your hardware may eliminate this possibility . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 12:32:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9371065670 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C968FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:32:25 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=LSq9+x92GghMEUuUFdD0eWC3WnW8kwywMvEafvlHnFQMTcIqFWBGRRFIUyOjyvYZ3Xg1PbQEznw0g+GM3AWAA7sSKB+BFN4CWDah5HWI6Avmatk1Nyqb/KiThQ2Qo29t; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:60667) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMgvn-0008k8-PY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:32:23 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:32:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> In-Reply-To: X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:4) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:32:26 -0000 On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? > >> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 > >> From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com > >> Message-ID: > > > > I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain > > mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. > > I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being > sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't > really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you > can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line > that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to > unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. Well, yes, the message is being sent direct to list posters, but support@mpcustomer.com (or some address that's relaying to it) is presumably subscribed to the list (which I'm guessing was done maliciously), otherwise they wouldn't be receiving these messages. I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at least the last several weeks now? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 12:51:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A134B106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DF08FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so3100739gwj.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.87.11 with SMTP id p11mr1376687ybl.335.1276174302306; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.52.11 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.185] In-Reply-To: <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:51:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Jonathan McKeown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:51:43 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner > wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: >> >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 >> >> From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com >> >> Message-ID: >> > >> > I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain >> > mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. >> >> I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being >> sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't >> really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you >> can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line >> that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to >> unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. > > Well, yes, the message is being sent direct to list posters, but > support@mpcustomer.com (or some address that's relaying to it) is presumably > subscribed to the list (which I'm guessing was done maliciously), otherwise > they wouldn't be receiving these messages. > > I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be > unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at > least the last several weeks now? They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. -- Rob Farmer > > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:04:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EC71065678 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72BD8FC1D for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5AD4rip075356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:04:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:04:53 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL,TO_NO_BRKTS_DIRECT autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:04:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 13:32:23, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be > unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at > least the last several weeks now? Sure. Just tell postmaster@freebsd.org *what* address mpcustomer.com is subscribed as. Hint: it's nothing to do with mpcustomer.com -- that was the first thing checked. Now, in order to work out how mpcustomer.com is subscribed to this list, the obvious thing to do is examine the headers of any list e-mail as received at their help system. Or examining mpcustomer.com's mail logs to correlate the incoming e-mails with the host(s) relaying them. That involves mpcustomer.com spending some time and effort investigating, and that seems to be something they are not doing. Not a good advert for them, but they don't seem at all bothered by any potential loss of reputation. The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, but it might be possible. There is a similar technique (whose name I have temporarily forgotten) that some mailing lists use where they tag the envelope sender address with the recipient name in order to identify addresses that are bouncing back the list e-mail. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwQ4vUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz4YACfa2Vzf3K+i4nsn7YoSU83Iw5o iWIAn2OSX4rCPsKb6bwvYaWKp5K5C2Wd =JgcF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:09:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7C21065679 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70218FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:09:56 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=jSsc1ffLyPkKSs5QeqDannbMsy4Scw9JrKS2AsODUvmjN/BIZBuM09dPeh8StZrk46z6PWcc9Eq0/9fG/JsaDBYJLPj2lAxMfg9+mw1lNQkuAnro5uvUnV3c/UgDPLnK; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:61453) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMhW7-000A2V-5U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:09:55 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:09:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:4) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:09:57 -0000 On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] > > They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't > unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to > them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can > determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on > list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their > cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. So this is a hosting company that has had (assuming everyone else is having the same experience as I am, namely one ticket per posting) almost 500 junk tickets added to their support queue in the last ten days (476 messages on the freebsd-questions archive for June when I checked a moment ago), and either can't think of a way to address the issue, or doesn't actually care enough to do anything about it, all the while presumably having real support requests swamped in the noise? I'd be jumping up and down looking for a solution by now (in fact I would have been weeks ago - can anyone remember how long this has been happening?). Jonathan (I should probably stress that I am not speaking on behalf of my employer and my opinions are entirely my own). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:12:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B081D1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554998FC1B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9FAFF7427; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:40 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Rob Farmer Message-Id: <20100610091240.2a146be8.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10CB87.1060100@fechner.net> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:42 -0000 In response to Rob Farmer : > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:06:46 Rob Farmer wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Matthias Fechner > > wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > >> >> Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? > >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 > >> >> From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> >> Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com > >> >> Message-ID: > >> > > >> > I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain > >> > mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. > >> > >> I haven't received any of the messages, but I think they are being > >> sent directly to list posters (not via the list) so FreeBSD can't > >> really do much about it. If mpcustomer.com refuses to deal with it you > >> can always try complaining to their upstream provider, taking the line > >> that since the messages are unsolicited and there is no way to > >> unsubscribe the practice is probably illegal. > > > > Well, yes, the message is being sent direct to list posters, but > > support@mpcustomer.com (or some address that's relaying to it) is presumably > > subscribed to the list (which I'm guessing was done maliciously), otherwise > > they wouldn't be receiving these messages. > > > > I know it creates work for the admins, but couldn't their address be > > unsubscribed and banned, given that they have been creating a nuisance for at > > least the last several weeks now? > > They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't > unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to > them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can > determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on > list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their > cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. I host my own mail server. The published terms of service warn that I will charge people for time spent reading/investigating/otherwise dealing with unsolicited mail: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/9 Whether or not this is legally enforceable has yet to be seen. And in most cases, it's completely useless (i.e., spam coming from China, or a single email from a single breach where the sysadmins are johnny on the spot getting things cleaned up). However, in cases where there is a continuing problem, I've found that contacting the admins and pointing out that their failure to solve the issue will result in an invoice will get people to get off their ass and do their job. I recommend posting similar terms of service for all of you who host your own emails/sites/whatever. Also, if I get spam in response to this message, I will contact the spammer to notify them of the terms they are violating, which may get things cleared up all by itself. And if it continues, who knows, I may get my first opportunity to see if that TOS holds up in court. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:12:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB06106568C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from f.mail.ru.ac.za (f.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B594C8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=pfxNLeexdJK84lhXl0muMYnK6aW068wj0i9UZbGfWkTMwnmT2p5+lLl+vzUKGFS4yum1bRre2rbgwrGa/afbICY/rRk80VGxRC1rMFr/S35edJAsBPe906HH5VvwV7Tl; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:55075) by f.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMhYu-000Kks-DW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: f.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:6) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:52 -0000 On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique > value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the > message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe > problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, but it might be > possible. There is a similar technique (whose name I have temporarily > forgotten) that some mailing lists use where they tag the envelope > sender address with the recipient name in order to identify addresses > that are bouncing back the list e-mail. Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little about their reputation or the impression this is giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their competence and diligence. I'll shut up now. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:15:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7636A106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6198FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so492867gxk.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.20.11 with SMTP id x11mr1320606ybi.216.1276175723204; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.52.11 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:15:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.185] In-Reply-To: <201006101509.54987.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101509.54987.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:15:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Jonathan McKeown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:15:24 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2010 14:51:42 Rob Farmer wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan McKeown > wrote: > [rant about midphase hosting and mpcustomer.com] >> >> They posted in a previous thread about this, saying they couldn't >> unsubscribe under their address, ie. somebody is relaying mail to >> them. They were told they need to provide headers so postmaster can >> determine what address is subscribed. They never replied (at least on >> list). I'm not an expert about such things but I think without their >> cooperation there's no real way to tell who the relay is. > > So this is a hosting company that has had (assuming everyone else is having > the same experience as I am, namely one ticket per posting) almost 500 junk > tickets added to their support queue in the last ten days (476 messages on > the freebsd-questions archive for June when I checked a moment ago), and > either can't think of a way to address the issue, or doesn't actually care > enough to do anything about it, all the while presumably having real support > requests swamped in the noise? > > I'd be jumping up and down looking for a solution by now (in fact I would have > been weeks ago - can anyone remember how long this has been happening?). Agreed - if this was a small non-profit with no technical staff it might be understandable, but they are supposedly a web host. As Matthew just mentioned, this is not good advertising for them. Looking on the bright side - at least you know who *not* to go with for your next web site. -- Rob Farmer > > Jonathan > (I should probably stress that I am not speaking on behalf of my employer and > my opinions are entirely my own). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:30:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E286D106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDCD8FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5ADUegg075597 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:30:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C10E900.2070002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:30:40 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:30:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 14:12:48, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it Dat's der bunny. > would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little > about their reputation or the impression this is giving, on one of the more > widely-archived mailing lists, of their competence and diligence. Who knows? I suspect if the story got carried on slashdot or theregister it might cause their management to wake up. Or if the story started showing up on the first page of a Google search. (Fat chance of that though -- they've obviously been working hard on the SEO) Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people running other MTAs are left as exercises for interested students. If you don't have your own mail system, then I suspect that it will be quite hard for you to arrange to block the e-mail from midphase. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwQ6QAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzHNgCgg1hFw5qMkPNA0y+wV33fyA54 A+cAn22AA51QJqYsN3EdLAobF1oTGEW7 =+8uO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:32:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B3C1065688 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from snt0-omc2-s52.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s52.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6378FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT136-W9 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s52.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:20:37 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [151.49.239.95] From: daniele p To: , Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:20:36 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20100610111820.GA58452@aurora.oekb.co.at>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2010 13:20:37.0503 (UTC) FILETIME=[B71B40F0:01CB089F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3, gnome2.30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:32:39 -0000 I also have a similar problem (slow start-up) with gnome 2.30. In my case g= nome-panel stops for some time (30 secs ?) then outputs a message to the co= nsole and then everything is ready to accept input. I can't attach the outp= ut message now. In my /etc/rc.conf I just added hald_enable=3D"YES" dbus_enable=3D"YES"=20 and then created '.xinitrc' in ~ with the following line exec gnome-session I start everything with 'startx'. This way I can see error messages on the tty=2C where 'startx' has been lau= nched.=20 I can not say where debug messages are sent once you also enable gdm. d > Date: Thu=2C 10 Jun 2010 08:14:18 -0400 > From: m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com > To: a@jenisch.at > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Gnome startup awfully slow (7.3=2C gnome2.30) >=20 > On Thu=2C Jun 10=2C 2010 at 7:18 AM=2C Ewald Jenisch wrote= : >=20 > > Hi=2C > > > > On my system (FreeBSD 7.3 AMD64=2C system & kernel current as per today= ) > > it takes awully long to start up gnome (2.30) - "awfully long" meaning > > 2-3 minutes (this is on a Intel quadcore-CPU with 4GB RAM!) > > > > In my /etc/rc.conf I've got > > > > gnome_enable=3D"YES" > > > > I've already ruled out the usual suspect being a missing/wrong entry > > in /etc/hosts (http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20)=3B my > > hostname ist resolvable including reverse-resolution=2C plus I've got > > the entries in my /etc/hosts. > > > > Is there any way to speed up gnome startup - or at least a pointer as > > to where I can start looking for the cause of the problem? > > > > Thanks in advance for any clue=2C > > -ewald > > >=20 >=20 > One possibility may be that X system is trying to auto-detect your hardwa= re > which is taking time . > Checking X configuration files and making them conforming to your hardwar= e > may eliminate this possibility . >=20 > Thank you very much . >=20 > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=3D60969= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:51:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B965106567A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF598FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so2779070vws.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:51:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7+zmYlpNJjcvmYQmzUVtQh3NZqm7IIVg23cUABXFPHs=; b=j3oAeLQvYwp8jDtK3vzl1rvMCPivoCicIItA11AVuSVKxTxFTsuzlTl2ZLZ1YQUtmZ i1lANzCN8rUc2IsVMyBv2KHNpWDw1UVEQBbZnyLogQSF2jj+GjeeNv5f1cwf6bNmCYS4 17hSptUcaPYhrobQ80N4YGDYfYxkI48oxEbc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JGk/1fONEpGxi98oDtUFkHS5XVr5M/qBTR/zHQetThKW376E+l6tuy0QC0SDMgRdab jupvu6scYfQ3ONLrs9coEcjYR1Fiz0nIX4btCorQlQ4ZjyJHYOJpWjFJCnox0S2VMrQ+ nebzIb40qKvJaW0gEelMAJvLck821A4Vkt38A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.63.231 with SMTP id c39mr207832qai.126.1276177883495; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.99.67 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 08:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Vinay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on gvinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:51:25 -0000 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Vinay wrote: > Hi, > > I am new to FreeBSD. I have installed FreeBSD 6.3 and was playing with > gvinum. > > > Can you let me know what am i missing? > You should use a current release of FreeBSD, if 6.3 is still supported it won't be for much longer. Use the 8.0 and then use the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/vinum-config.html Pay attention to the differences between vinum and gvinum. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 14:15:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915BE106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2a01:138:a006::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CEB8FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.idefix.lan (ppp-88-217-54-73.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.54.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by anny.lostinspace.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5AEEqFA098928 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:14:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DF373E0 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:14:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.idefix.lan Received: from server.idefix.lan ([127.0.0.1]) by server.idefix.lan (server.idefix.lan [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ANRdZtZXTy94 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from matthias-fechners-macbook.local (tmo-101-208.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.101.208]) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F2E1F73D2 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C10F313.10207@fechner.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:13:39 +0200 From: Matthias Fechner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E900.2070002@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C10E900.2070002@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.5 (anny.lostinspace.de [80.190.182.2]); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:14:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on anny.lostinspace.de Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:15:00 -0000 Am 10.06.10 15:30, schrieb Matthew Seaman: > Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if > you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people > running other MTAs are left as exercises for interested students. If > you don't have your own mail system, then I suspect that it will be > quite hard for you to arrange to block the e-mail from midphase. > is it possible to get there hostname/IP-address to some spamer blacklists? That should solve the problem for a lot of people. Bye, Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 14:58:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56D81065670 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E9F8FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so26208wyb.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:58:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.172.194 with SMTP id t44mr187759wel.54.1276181936752; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.167.137 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:58:56 +0200 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Question on packages and ports (and versions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:58:59 -0000 Hi all, I can't find an answer to this question, so I decided to post here. Since I'm not very good at english let me ask this with an example. I assume that packages and ports may have different versions of the same software (am I right?) so, for instance, if you install gnome with packages you can have a certain "glib" version (say 1.0), but if you install gnome with ports you can have a more recent "glib" version (say 1.1). Now my question is, am I right on this assumption? If so, may I have those two versions installed at the same time (from a package and a port)? How does software from packages and ports interfere each other? Does software installed from packages live in different directories than software installed from ports? If not, how does FreeBSD select one over the other? Thanks in advance, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 15:18:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A721065675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5105D8FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-61-120.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.61.120]:54221 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OMjWk-0000CQ-4w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:18:44 +0200 Received: (qmail 13248 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jun 2010 17:18:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:18:41 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Antonio Vieiro Message-ID: <20100610151841.GA13235@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.61.120 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1OMjWk-0000CQ-4w. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1OMjWk-0000CQ-4w ab72080141ebed9f25aa80d4d48cd9fd Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:18:52 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 04:58:56PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > Hi all, > > I can't find an answer to this question, so I decided to post here. > Since I'm not very good at english let me ask this with an example. > > I assume that packages and ports may have different versions of the > same software (am I right?) so, for instance, if you install gnome > with packages you can have a certain "glib" version (say 1.0), but if > you install gnome with ports you can have a more recent "glib" version > (say 1.1). > > Now my question is, am I right on this assumption? If so, may I have > those two versions installed at the same time (from a package and a > port)? How does software from packages and ports interfere each other? > > Does software installed from packages live in different directories > than software installed from ports? If not, how does FreeBSD select > one over the other? A package is best seen as simply a pre-compiled port, i.e. packages are built from ports. After it has been installed there is no difference between software installed via ports or software installed via packages. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 15:41:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4324B106566B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA958FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o5AFf7f1008358 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:41:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201006101541.o5AFf7f1008358@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:41:34 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 10 06:25:02 2010 > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:24:55 +0200 > From: Matthias Fechner > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting > > Hi, > > Am 10.06.10 11:47, schrieb Jonathan McKeown: > > Subject: [#24548754] Re: why does ps |grep sometimes not return itself? > > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 02:46:31 -0500 > > From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Reply-To: support@mpcustomer.com > > Message-ID: > > > > I suggest to block on the freebsd server the complete domain > mpcustomer.com that should solve the problem. > It is really anyoing. I had already contact with the postmaster and he > was unable to do anything. > Blocking on the freeBSD server will accomplish -nothing-, unfortunately. Some idiot subscribed -- and *confirmed* -- *their* address to the mailing list (the Midphase ticket system is _not_ subscribed), and then aliased or forwarded that address to the support@mpcustomer.com ticket system. As such, it is effectively _impossible_ for the list owner to resolve the problem. The required information is simply _not_ available at the origin. The *ONLY* people who can resolve the problem _IS_ the Midphase mail admin. All he needs to do is check the *complete* headers for one of the list messages _as_received_ by Midphase, and see who the _original_ addressee is. THEN that address can be unsubscribed, and the problem is solved. A week or so ago, the usual 'monthly subscribtuion notification' went out to all users. THAT message alone, in the message _BODY_ had the info that MidPhase would needed to act, had they cared to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:12:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83371065672 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D728FC20 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so65034pwj.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.229.10 with SMTP id jg10mr324818qcb.99.1276186374715; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm216465vco.11.2010.06.10.09.12.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 235B1E5480A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:12:50 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:12:56 -0000 On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown articulated: > On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a > > unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved > > in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That > > has severe problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, > > but it might be possible. There is a similar technique (whose name > > I have temporarily forgotten) that some mailing lists use where > > they tag the envelope sender address with the recipient name in > > order to identify addresses that are bouncing back the list e-mail. > > Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the > load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase > care so little about their reputation or the impression this is > giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their > competence and diligence. I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful. -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ "If you have a hill to climb, waiting won't make it smaller." Anonymous From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:19:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83690106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com (mail-ew0-f224.google.com [209.85.219.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A098FC32 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so60024ewy.34 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y7N32rzMiV8fDaAqjewBp+wI3trlAAUf9KJx/7XzTMc=; b=RRnc+IYEeLH0IQNRi3iZTf1kmcf90t5qGl/0ilWpAagp9wnbsA78IZrfBgirY4j2wP eBFYHfUh8EiURjmlnwe/zWe+add9JtokVm/UsLId/2auhgJt8bTS38fLGYvs4YUUK4j2 H9sbRJl7WlkI2pirTF/YA48iF8pMWzix/3OfM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=n1ia34y7+rXLElwf+dfBXz9RrOfbHSY8xbCGjvAMIBj4/p26i3vj+5fFJenSnCCS+D 30viJPce17BhKXaOKaotl4zFZRNO4oV3c/nGqVyYugEapBU3IHIdjkDo9xu+nE9YBcWe 19ReJkEzzv5sQ7R9OYjfhB7dORsz5IYcN8yGw= Received: by 10.213.8.134 with SMTP id h6mr261892ebh.95.1276186758756; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm79412ewy.15.2010.06.10.09.19.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:18:54 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100610171854.69246a78@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sh ++/-- operators X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:19:23 -0000 FreeBSD's sh (in 8.0) doesn't seem to support the ++ or -- arithmetic operators $ echo "$((n++))" arithmetic expression: syntax error: "n++" Am I wrong in thinking these are POSIX operators? It seems odd if they were simply left-out.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:21:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3447106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9E88FC1C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5AGKUMr077036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:20:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C1110CD.6050807@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:20:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Fechner References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E900.2070002@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4C10F313.10207@fechner.net> In-Reply-To: <4C10F313.10207@fechner.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:21:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 15:13:39, Matthias Fechner wrote: > Am 10.06.10 15:30, schrieb Matthew Seaman: >> Until then, as someone upthread said, block them using your access DB if >> you run your own sendmail based mail system. The equivalents for people >> running other MTAs are left as exercises for interested students. If >> you don't have your own mail system, then I suspect that it will be >> quite hard for you to arrange to block the e-mail from midphase. >> > > is it possible to get there hostname/IP-address to some spamer blacklists? > That should solve the problem for a lot of people. I believe they are already on rfc-ignorant -- yep: http://www.robtex.com/dns/secure.mpcustomer.com.html#blacklists Heh. That's a familiar name in the abuse report. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwREM0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwQ7ACfTKs6QCqVcVf3x3rW8Xw0fssT sIIAn3Q6/PKy/7H7HhYYPN/Phnadvv4g =jSQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:26:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99887106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF858FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTPC) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMkaI-0000UP-Uy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:26:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:26:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: CVSUP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:26:29 -0000 Hi all, Its been a while since I have used CVSup. I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly after 8.0 was released. I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it TO make sure that just ports and source are updated, what tag do I use in the supfile (to stay with RELEASE only)? RELENG_8_0 ? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:30:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45B11065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489F98FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5AGUqjd077132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:30:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C11133C.1070203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:30:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL,TO_NO_BRKTS_DIRECT autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:30:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 > Jonathan McKeown articulated: > >> On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>> The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a >>> unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved >>> in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That >>> has severe problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, >>> but it might be possible. There is a similar technique (whose name >>> I have temporarily forgotten) that some mailing lists use where >>> they tag the envelope sender address with the recipient name in >>> order to identify addresses that are bouncing back the list e-mail. >> >> Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the >> load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase >> care so little about their reputation or the impression this is >> giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their >> competence and diligence. > > I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never > noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists > like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful. VERP itself is reasonably lightweight, as it modifies the envelope sender address -- something that can be applied during processing by the MTA as part of sending the message. Unfortunately, I suspect that to get the message through to mpcustomer.com and then have it spammed back to the sender *with the tag intact*, VERP per se won't do the trick. It will probably be necessary to put the tag into the body of the message. As far as mail delivery goes, that's a very different story -- it goes from one message with tens of thousands of recipients, to tens of thousands of messages each with one recipient. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwREzsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyueACfRxA92D363Qf73nqRmoDLAYSu 7NcAnRl9BdZfax3+65N0y9Wxr3yy22hQ =2Edq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:32:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB6A106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABCA8FC1E for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23144A2E6E1; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:30:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 09:30:15 -0700 From: Jason To: Grant Peel Message-ID: <20100610163014.GA90823@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:32:23 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:26:22PM -0400, Grant Peel thus spake: >Hi all, > >Its been a while since I have used CVSup. > >I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly >after 8.0 was released. > >I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it > >TO make sure that just ports and source are updated, what tag do I use in >the supfile (to stay with RELEASE only)? > >RELENG_8_0 ? This handbook article may be what you are looking for: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvs-tags.html RELENG_8_0 sounds right though... > >-Grant > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:33:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07CF1065679 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D378FC26 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) with SMTP; 10 Jun 2010 12:33:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:31:37 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Brian Seklecki (Mobile)" To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (WNT 1167 2008-08-23) X-X-Sender: bseklecki@mx07.pub.collaborativefusion.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:33:49 -0000 > RELENG_8_0 Yes. This will give you the latest 8.0 release + desired patch level (critical security patches). This is almost certain what you want to be running before going to production status. I mean, you could use RELENG_8_0_RELEASE I suppose, but then the cvsup would be without merit. Dont use a tag with the ports supfile. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:36:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58F41065676 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC018FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:d939:c495:2bd0:97ad] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:d939:c495:2bd0:97ad]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 378F07B for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:36:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C111488.2060606@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:36:24 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006101512.48246.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB042DD5A0693C2868108FA1" Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:36:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB042DD5A0693C2868108FA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10.06.2010 18:12, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 > Jonathan McKeown articulated: >=20 >> On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>> The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a >>> unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved >>> in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That >>> has severe problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, >>> but it might be possible. There is a similar technique (whose name >>> I have temporarily forgotten) that some mailing lists use where >>> they tag the envelope sender address with the recipient name in >>> order to identify addresses that are bouncing back the list e-mail. >> >> Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the >> load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase >> care so little about their reputation or the impression this is >> giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their >> competence and diligence. >=20 > I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never > noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists > like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful. Wouldn't adding an explicit route (to null) for the ip range employed by mpcustomer.com for the poor FreeBSD server do the trick? It would build up queue for a while, then the probe message wouldn't get there, then the problem would simply vanish. ;) //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =D8stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enigFB042DD5A0693C2868108FA1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkwRFIwACgkQODUnwSLUlKT5kACfer/46UHmW+9CblFboMbXlwLs 8kAAn3iEsI6sqxiJ5K1wbzlxkLzneiaJ =Wi6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB042DD5A0693C2868108FA1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:37:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82171065686 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829A78FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o5AGaiwx008741; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:36:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:36:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201006101636.o5AGaiwx008741@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fixing the spam from MPCUSTOMER.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:37:10 -0000 I have an approach that will get MidPhase's attention, but I need the help of as many of the other victims of their borked support system as I can round up. Anybody who gets one of their misbeggotten trouble-ticket acks, please forward (or copy, or whatever) the message, with *COMPLETE* headers, to 'mp-spam@r-bonomi.com'. Feel free to forward _every_ such ack you get, If you have saved copies of their prior crimes, feel free to send them to the above address, as well. Please send each such as a separate email, however; I'm tabulating on the basis of each message received -here-. If you have/use procmail for handling incoming mail,, a recipie of: 0: H: * ^From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org * ^Reply.*mpcustomer ! mp-spam@r-bonomi.com will do it automatically, _and_ eliminate it from your inbox. However you do it, I'll bit-bucket anything not matching those two REs in an _unanchored_ form, so a 'false-positive' in a forwarded message is "no problem". The larger the number of 'victims' I can show _actual_proof_ of, the more of a reaction I'll be able to stir up. The 'fun-and-games' -- They are in out-and-out violation of that mostly *useless* piece of legislation known as CAN-SPAM. Their *forgery* of the "From: " line to show the address of the mailing-list is a clear violation of 15 USC 7704 (a) (1). What's even -more- fun, is that they are going to shoot themselves in the foot -- they will auto-ack *this* message, thereby establishing that they have "actual notice" of the violation, and thus, that *EVERY* subsequent violation is 'knowing and wilful'. Enough of the people on this list (a) run their own servers, and (b) provide email handling for at least _one_ other person, such that they qualify, UNDER CAN-SPAM, as an ISP, and thus _have_ "standing" to initate a private lawsuit under said law (=individuals= do _not_ have that right, *only* ISPs, the way the law is written). Now, with a whole _bunch_ of *ISPs* being victims, there is the possibility of a _CLASS_ACTION_ civil suit. One can imagine what kind of _news_ coverage that even the contemplation of such an action would carry. When I have a reasonable amount of 'ammunition' in hand, I look forward to a _very_ "interesting" discussion with their legal counsel. <*BIG* grin> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 16:39:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197491065673 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9198FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5AGdPnP077230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:39:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C11153D.1020705@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:39:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:39:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/06/2010 17:26:22, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > Its been a while since I have used CVSup. > > I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly > after 8.0 was released. > > I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it > > TO make sure that just ports and source are updated, what tag do I use > in the supfile (to stay with RELEASE only)? > > RELENG_8_0 ? Yes. Except that cvsup is spelled csup nowadays -- or at least the C language version in the base system is csup(1). Also RELENG_8_0 is a tag that applies /only/ to the source distribution. Ports simply isn't tagged and branched in the same way. You pretty much always want HEAD when csup'ing ports. Verb. Sap. Put something like the following in your /etc/make.conf (choose a cvsup server closer to you) and you can update both src and ports by running 'make update' in /usr/src: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -L2 SUPHOST= cvsup.uk.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile (standard-supfile should default to RELENG_8_0 on a box running 8.0-RELEASE, but check and edit the file to make sure) Cheers Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwRFT0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxjiQCfa/3K/gEHHwr/0hpBLLXyPilm EMIAn070XZWdvY2dzm62tFzjkWgBa7yK =JIM2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 17:15:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997FE106568C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602B88FC25 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o5AHFMF9061643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5AHFMUP072999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o5AHFLix072998; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:21 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: RW Message-ID: <20100610171521.GA5615@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20100610171854.69246a78@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100610171854.69246a78@gumby.homeunix.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sh ++/-- operators X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:15:25 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 10), RW said: > FreeBSD's sh (in 8.0) doesn't seem to support the ++ or -- arithmetic > operators > > $ echo "$((n++))" > arithmetic expression: syntax error: "n++" > > Am I wrong in thinking these are POSIX operators? It seems odd if they > were simply left-out.. Easy enough to check: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_06_04 * The sizeof() operator and the prefix and postfix "++" and "--" operators are not required. Patches welcome to implement them if you want them :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 17:19:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF6A106566C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@more.net) Received: from vortex.more.net (vortex.more.net [198.209.253.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923F8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jane.spg.more.net (jane.spg.more.net [207.160.133.140]) by vortex.more.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D856928424 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:19:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jane.spg.more.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C2A2C64C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:19:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan D Niles To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:19:55 -0500 Message-Id: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:19:56 -0000 I had been using csh/tcsh for 20 years and I just switched to bash. The recent discussion about the differences between the shells prompted me to take another look at bash. I thought I'd share my perception of the differences between tcsh and bash. The big thing tcsh is lacking, and the reason I switched, is the lack of sensible redirection (as some call it). Specifically, not being able to do 'command 2>/dev/null >/somefile' is why I switched. The which command functions differently between bash and tcsh. For example, I have ls aliased to do color output and add some other options that I like. With tcsh, 'which ls' returns "ls: aliased to \ls -GFB"; with bash it returns "/bin/ls". The tcsh behavior tells you what will be executed when you run ls. The bash behavior can be achieved in tcsh with 'which \ls', so I think I like the tcsh behavior better. I could probably write a function in bash that emulates tcsh's builtin which command. The alias mechanism in bash lacks the ability to do parameter substitutions like tcsh can. You can achieve the same thing with bash functions. The disadvantage of this is it doesn't show up in the aliases list. I worked around this by adding aliases for the functions too (because of the which behavior). The advantage of using bash's functions is you can do more complex things. With bash-completions installed, the two shells both do completions well. Bash lacks the "enhance" mode of tcsh that "considers periods, hyphens and underscores (‘.’, ‘-’ and ‘_’) to be word separators and hyphens and underscores to be equivalent." Both can do case insensitive completions. Bash completions do remote file completion, a feature I longed for in tcsh. There are some bugs in the bash-completions code, mostly due to its age. For example, the _rsync function still has the default shell as rsh and remote file completion does not work. I think tcsh completions are a little easier to set up, but you can do more with bash completions. Those are the big differences that I've noticed so far. All in all, the transition has been fairly easy. I hope someone will find my observations useful. Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 17:25:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A45C1065672 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6758FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o5AHOtuT009189; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:24:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:24:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201006101724.o5AHOtuT009189@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: lists@eitanadler.com, questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:25:24 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 9 06:09:36 2010 > From: Eitan Adler > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 14:08:58 +0300 > To: questions@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Too many defunct processes; kill -9 not working > > Lately I've been getting a considerable number of defunct processes. I > do not know of any major event that changed my computer (ie it is not > related to an ports update or a freeBSD upgrade). > > This is often caused by me killing the process using kill -15 or kill > -3 or kill -9. > > What can I do to determine why processes are not getting killed by kill -9? > > % ps -o ppid -o comm|grep defunct|cut -d ' ' -f 1 |xargs kill -9 > typically gets rid of them (by killing their parent) A 'defunct' process _has_ been killed. What you see is the 'remains' of the dead process, because the parent process has not yet 'reaped' the exit status of the dead child. All the resources of the child have been released, _except_ for the job- table slot entry. THAT is needed because that is where the child's exit status is kept. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 17:41:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F48C106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7238FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7676 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2010 17:41:34 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Jun 2010 17:41:34 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 62F2350824; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Dan D Niles References: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:41:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> (Dan D. Niles's message of "Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:19:55 -0500") Message-ID: <44typa3hv7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:41:35 -0000 Dan D Niles writes: > The which command functions differently between bash and tcsh. For > example, I have ls aliased to do color output and add some other options > that I like. With tcsh, 'which ls' returns > "ls: aliased to \ls -GFB"; with bash it returns > "/bin/ls". The tcsh behavior tells you what will be executed when you > run ls. The bash behavior can be achieved in tcsh with 'which \ls', so > I think I like the tcsh behavior better. I could probably write a > function in bash that emulates tcsh's builtin which command. bash (like most other sh-style shells) has no "which" builtin. You end up running /usr/bin/which. bash (like most other sh-style shells) does have a (rough) equivalent, which is "type". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 17:57:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FFC1065677 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7849A8FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o5AHvCse066667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:57:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5AHvC7H070357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:57:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o5AHvBNe070356; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:57:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:57:11 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20100610175711.GB5615@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> <44typa3hv7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44typa3hv7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:57:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dan D Niles Subject: Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:57:13 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 10), Lowell Gilbert said: > Dan D Niles writes: > > > The which command functions differently between bash and tcsh. For > > example, I have ls aliased to do color output and add some other options > > that I like. With tcsh, 'which ls' returns > > "ls: aliased to \ls -GFB"; with bash it returns > > "/bin/ls". The tcsh behavior tells you what will be executed when you > > run ls. The bash behavior can be achieved in tcsh with 'which \ls', so > > I think I like the tcsh behavior better. I could probably write a > > function in bash that emulates tcsh's builtin which command. > > bash (like most other sh-style shells) has no "which" builtin. You end up > running /usr/bin/which. bash (like most other sh-style shells) does have > a (rough) equivalent, which is "type". zsh's which command will prints the output of aliases, and a very comprehensive completion system, too. It also supports more csh features/syntax than bash (good for people used to csh/tcsh). (dan@dan.13) /home/dan> which ls ls: aliased to ls -Fa -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 19:02:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF881065675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987488FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMmta-0001IN-5a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:54:31 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:02:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:02:12 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100610190212.GH76770@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201006101636.o5AGaiwx008741@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201006101636.o5AGaiwx008741@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Fixing the spam from MPCUSTOMER.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:02:18 -0000 On Jun 10 2010 11:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: > I have an approach that will get MidPhase's attention, but I need the help > of as many of the other victims of their borked support system as I can > round up. > > Anybody who gets one of their misbeggotten trouble-ticket acks, please > forward (or copy, or whatever) the message, with *COMPLETE* headers, to > 'mp-spam@r-bonomi.com'. Feel free to forward _every_ such ack you get, > > If you have saved copies of their prior crimes, feel free to send them to > the above address, as well. Please send each such as a separate email, > however; I'm tabulating on the basis of each message received -here-. > > If you have/use procmail for handling incoming mail,, a recipie of: > > 0: H: > * ^From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > * ^Reply.*mpcustomer > ! mp-spam@r-bonomi.com > > will do it automatically, _and_ eliminate it from your inbox. > > However you do it, I'll bit-bucket anything not matching those two REs in > an _unanchored_ form, so a 'false-positive' in a forwarded message is "no > problem". > > The larger the number of 'victims' I can show _actual_proof_ of, the more > of a reaction I'll be able to stir up. > > The 'fun-and-games' -- They are in out-and-out violation of that mostly > *useless* piece of legislation known as CAN-SPAM. Their *forgery* of the > "From: " line to show the address of the mailing-list is a clear violation > of 15 USC 7704 (a) (1). What's even -more- fun, is that they are going to > shoot themselves in the foot -- they will auto-ack *this* message, thereby > establishing that they have "actual notice" of the violation, and thus, > that *EVERY* subsequent violation is 'knowing and wilful'. > > Enough of the people on this list (a) run their own servers, and (b) provide > email handling for at least _one_ other person, such that they qualify, UNDER > CAN-SPAM, as an ISP, and thus _have_ "standing" to initate a private lawsuit > under said law (=individuals= do _not_ have that right, *only* ISPs, the way > the law is written). Now, with a whole _bunch_ of *ISPs* being victims, > there is the possibility of a _CLASS_ACTION_ civil suit. > > One can imagine what kind of _news_ coverage that even the contemplation > of such an action would carry. > > When I have a reasonable amount of 'ammunition' in hand, I look forward to > a _very_ "interesting" discussion with their legal counsel. <*BIG* grin> > Excellent. For those who use getlessmail, I've just committed a change (http://bitbucket.org/apotheon/getlessmail/) to allow piping the message to another command -- in this case, mail. The relevant rule to add to a .getlessmail profile would be something like: ((pipe '/usr/bin/mail -s mpcustomer mp-spam@r-bonomi.com') && block) if field "Reply-To",/\bmpcustomer\.com\b/i -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 19:15:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6414D1065674 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0188FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so293163gyh.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.149.28 with SMTP id b28mr555639ano.228.1276196908524; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b1sm1510639anb.10.2010.06.10.12.08.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDA18E5480A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:08:23 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100610150823.219c122c@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <44typa3hv7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> <44typa3hv7.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:15:51 -0000 On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:41:32 -0400 Lowell Gilbert articulated: > bash (like most other sh-style shells) has no "which" builtin. You > end up running /usr/bin/which. bash (like most other sh-style > shells) does have a (rough) equivalent, which is "type" Personally, I have found the "command" equivalent quite adequate. I use a version of the following in all of my Bash scripts that require checking for the presents of another program. command -v command1 >/dev/null && echo "command1 Found In \$PATH" || echo "command1 Not Found in \$PATH" -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Sure you can trust the Government; ask any Indian. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 19:18:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353501065674 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B898FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WorldClient by andycarroll.org (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 22-md50000101307.msg for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:08:05 -0500 Received: from [65.116.56.30] via WorldClient with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:08:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:08:02 -0500 From: "jay west" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: WorldClient 8.1.3 X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:08:05 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:08:10 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Anyone aware of dahdi port not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:18:25 -0000 I emailed the maintainer but got no response. Fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0-Release and a port collection from around 6/5/10. Did a make on the dahdi-2.3.0rc2 port, but it fails. I can provide details, but was wondering if it was something on my machine or if others have noticed this and are aware of it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 19:22:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40842106567C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwest@ezwind.net) Received: from ezwind.net (bobby.ezwind.net [209.145.140.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084448FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WorldClient by andycarroll.org (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.3.R) with ESMTP id 57-md50000101247.msg for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:22:49 -0500 Received: from [65.116.56.30] via WorldClient with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:22:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:22:44 -0500 From: "jay west" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: WorldClient 8.1.3 X-Authenticated-Sender: jwest@ezwind.net X-Spam-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:22:49 -0500 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: jwest@ezwind.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-MDAV-Processed: gateway.ezwind.net, Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:22:50 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dahdi issue, found fix. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:22:51 -0000 I should have spent just a few more minutes googling. Found this: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.bsd/3083 Looks like exactly the issue I ran in to. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 20:40:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66CA1065679 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B2E8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:40:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8418 invoked by uid 1008); 10 Jun 2010 21:59:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 10 Jun 2010 21:59:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4C114DAC.5070006@el.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:40:12 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Macintosh/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sendmail access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:40:17 -0000 hi all... reading http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html i did get an access file set up. it doesn't do anything thought... i have only entry like this: some.domain.com OK and did make. then changed /etc/defaults/rc.conf to sendmail_enable="YES".... restarted sendmail. cool. so far. now mail is a accepted from everywhere not only the entry in access: some.domain.com why? thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 20:43:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64B9106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5206C8FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so68308eya.9 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.100.163 with SMTP id y35mr585918ebn.16.1276202604663; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.27.211 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:43:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.36.189] Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:43:24 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Martin Cracauer , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:43:26 -0000 Hello Martin, *, the port lang/cmucl has a dependency on a very old libutil, libc and libm: % lisp /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.5" not found, required by "lisp" % which lisp /usr/local/bin/lisp % ldd `which lisp` /usr/local/bin/lisp: libutil.so.5 => not found (0x0) libm.so.4 => not found (0x0) libc.so.6 => not found (0x0) % pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/lisp /usr/local/bin/lisp was installed by package cmucl-19f_1 I've reinstalled the port, but still the same problem. misc/compat4x (compat4x-i386-5.3_9) is installed (and updated) too. Still, no joy. Any other way to get cmucl on amd64? Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 21:38:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79D91065675; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B598FC13; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so76008eya.9 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:38:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.21.138 with SMTP id j10mr2516778ebb.98.1276205888663; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.27.211 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.36.189] In-Reply-To: <4C1158BD.7040409@gmail.com> References: <4C1158BD.7040409@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:38:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Douglas Thrift Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Martin Cracauer , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:38:11 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Douglas Thrift wrote: > Hello, > > I've run into this before and it seems to me like the port should > actually depend on misc/compat6x. I emailed Martin about this a while > back, but never received any reply. Apparently there is even an open bug > for this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/146680 Ah, thank you. I'll try to use misc/compat6x instead. ;-) -cpghost. > Hope this helps! > -- > Douglas William Thrift > > -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 21:54:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BD71065670; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from douglaswth@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B928FC08; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvb32 with SMTP id 32so227893pvb.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B4KrJPfNrAqFPLmEg3NicDXzpx0h6EPym2GgeKSeBPQ=; b=mx1XYBBpYKwSduTsZR4CJAGOiQRL4ER5SaElXiVFGsSuwZnCiI2IfvXTgBTgm+RqcL tL5IxQFwk2GcLSZtaCpLK52cMixUQVvj1Q8GzvxnB4Pos72R34PJtk9dcUjBsmTjpdQa Lo9ef1nBkJKVMtNiVW5XncjUp2KdT6YZka5F4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=uVgtfKmylg9pqzh1ocVR1Ktm9gS/u8wUF41blJEaV7f/8u8dpGAY8YzymNH6CXZi6G BtK6JSRvQdDtWVFtrVksOmkFAUunWVaXFPxQhjNxprDXmg/1b3vqicZoLBYNJly02CHm wAGcGSd/5flsAyv9XVk9aG7Gyes7OdfJWWKyc= Received: by 10.141.15.7 with SMTP id s7mr541420rvi.296.1276205251847; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.56.39] (adsl-75-4-252-180.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [75.4.252.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t1sm424804rvl.21.2010.06.10.14.27.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C1158BD.7040409@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:27:25 -0700 From: Douglas Thrift User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "C. P. Ghost" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: id=34176159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Martin Cracauer , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:54:35 -0000 Hello, I've run into this before and it seems to me like the port should actually depend on misc/compat6x. I emailed Martin about this a while back, but never received any reply. Apparently there is even an open bug for this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/146680 Hope this helps! -- Douglas William Thrift On 6/10/2010 1:43 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > Hello Martin, *, > > the port lang/cmucl has a dependency on a very old libutil, > libc and libm: > > % lisp > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.5" not found, required by "lisp" > > % which lisp > /usr/local/bin/lisp > > % ldd `which lisp` > /usr/local/bin/lisp: > libutil.so.5 => not found (0x0) > libm.so.4 => not found (0x0) > libc.so.6 => not found (0x0) > > % pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/lisp > /usr/local/bin/lisp was installed by package cmucl-19f_1 > > I've reinstalled the port, but still the same problem. > > misc/compat4x (compat4x-i386-5.3_9) is installed (and > updated) too. Still, no joy. > > Any other way to get cmucl on amd64? > > Thanks, > -cpghost. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 23:15:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEF21065672; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1e6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12F68FC14; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1e6]) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5ANFF3n043124; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:15:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o5ANFFQQ043123; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:15:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:15:15 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: Douglas Thrift Message-ID: <20100610231515.GA41968@cons.org> References: <4C1158BD.7040409@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C1158BD.7040409@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Martin Cracauer , "C. P. Ghost" , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:15:18 -0000 Douglas Thrift wrote on Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:27:25PM -0700: > Hello, > > I've run into this before and it seems to me like the port should > actually depend on misc/compat6x. I emailed Martin about this a while > back, but never received any reply. Apparently there is even an open bug > for this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/146680 Oops. Sorry I'll fix it. Right now I think there's a general lack of people building CMUCL binaries, BTW. Martin > Hope this helps! > -- > Douglas William Thrift > > > > On 6/10/2010 1:43 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > > Hello Martin, *, > > > > the port lang/cmucl has a dependency on a very old libutil, > > libc and libm: > > > > % lisp > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libutil.so.5" not found, required by "lisp" > > > > % which lisp > > /usr/local/bin/lisp > > > > % ldd `which lisp` > > /usr/local/bin/lisp: > > libutil.so.5 => not found (0x0) > > libm.so.4 => not found (0x0) > > libc.so.6 => not found (0x0) > > > > % pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/lisp > > /usr/local/bin/lisp was installed by package cmucl-19f_1 > > > > I've reinstalled the port, but still the same problem. > > > > misc/compat4x (compat4x-i386-5.3_9) is installed (and > > updated) too. Still, no joy. > > > > Any other way to get cmucl on amd64? > > > > Thanks, > > -cpghost. > > -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 23:23:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF872106564A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Carlos.Paniago@cnptia.embrapa.br) Received: from plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br (plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br [200.0.70.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED468FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B48990078 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:06:44 -0300 (BRT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnptia.embrapa.br Received: from plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br ([127.0.0.1]) by plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br (plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Jdj4aq4aW8Xv for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:06:30 -0300 (BRT) Received: from a055.cnptia.embrapa.br (a055.cnptia.embrapa.br [10.129.3.55]) by plutao.cnptia.embrapa.br (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20CBE900FB for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:06:30 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <4C116FF6.9070607@cnptia.embrapa.br> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:06:30 -0300 From: Carlos Fernando Assis Paniago User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; pt-BR; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cron not sending emails (SOLVED) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:23:40 -0000 I Had a terrible week with freebsd. In monday I did an upgrade from 7.3 to 8.1-prerelease in 3 machines, 2 of them worked normaly and one stop functioning, and without user (ldap) e cron is not sending emails. The log for cron is: Jun 10 19:45:00 sol /usr/sbin/cron[80892]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80892]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, setgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80891]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, setgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80892]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, getgrent_r, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80891]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, getgrent_r, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80892]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, endgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80891]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, endgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80891]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, passwd, endpwent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 19:45:00 sol cron[80892]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, passwd, endpwent, not found, and no fallback provided The ldap stop working with the messages: Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41741]: @(#) $OpenLDAP: slapd 2.3.43 (Jun 10 2010 17:16:31) $ root@sol.cnptia.embrapa.br:/usr/ports/net/openldap23-server/work/openldap-2.3.43/servers/slapd Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41741]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, passwd, endpwent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41741]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, setgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41741]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, getgrent_r, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41741]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, endgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41741]: NSSWITCH(_nsdispatch): ldap, group, endgrent, not found, and no fallback provided Jun 10 17:25:09 sol slapd[41742]: slapd starting and in auth.log this log Jun 7 19:22:17 sol login: pam_acct_mgmt(): error in service module And until today after recompiling everithing from the ports to the system I cannot find the error. Today I found this: rigel# ldd /usr/local/lib/nss_ldap.so.1 /usr/local/lib/nss_ldap.so.1: libldap-2.3.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.3.so.2 (0x800c00000) liblber-2.3.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/liblber-2.3.so.2 (0x800d37000) libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 (0x800e45000) libkrb5.so.10 => /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.10 (0x800f5d000) libcom_err.so.5 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.5 (0x8010ca000) libgssapi_krb5.so.10 => /usr/lib/libgssapi_krb5.so.10 (0x8011cc000) libc.so.6 =>(unknow) libssl.so.6 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x8012e6000) libcrypto.so.6 => /lib/libcrypto.so.6 (0x801438000) libgssapi.so.10 => /usr/lib/libgssapi.so.10 (0x8016d2000) libhx509.so.10 => /usr/lib/libhx509.so.10 (0x8017db000) libroken.so.10 => /usr/lib/libroken.so.10 (0x80191a000) libasn1.so.10 => /usr/lib/libasn1.so.10 (0x801a2b000) libcrypt.so.5 => /lib/libcrypt.so.5 (0x801baa000) The problem was the libsasl2 (cyrus-sasl2) that was old. I found a lot of pages in google with this problem and no solution. And I find it using the command "cd /usr/local/lib ; grep -R libc.so.6 *". After the finding I compiled the module (cyrus-sals2) and everything comes back to normal. The problem is that nss_ldap.so.1 dont say that the library is missing but point the error to the PAM modules. Everyone that have this same problem try to find in the nss_ldap, pam_ldap etc, some reference to old libs. Paniago From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 00:10:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261A3106568A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com (mail-yw0-f182.google.com [209.85.211.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6ED8FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh12 with SMTP id 12so118960ywh.14 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:10:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3KTqTA26s8DnTniDNPkGQdnTOwLVQwPDgGFho+PRQt8=; b=h+yPHdN2UUXjqNxDa+iofimS6RCVWl6ArOA+cghvxeFTdUHA/yEjB6EjjU0eOgsLoD CMn/Y9bdbR7i6xJK7eeC75seVdwl3iP0wp7gxAA1yhfFZ7CJlw65ZJwoUYEMNNkjbahC 7aM5d9FfGbwYFkvxh/NLK6NUlm7dGt9HKoS2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IMd9SZhwhwYYBjOVInyuQd50ijyoe2iQQVeJ7fuqJnCcd+neBkHWECTfkWfy5wwMch aiXBQhrLwOtFzYYEUenNRe0PFMU6lqWfJZ/R4d/1VaongM4w/Z9IImm3kBfE99/Bxnip wK2TGvDOw6cw3LVO6q2A8lvk5nyN/oXGwcr4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.48.40 with SMTP id v40mr2152960ybv.232.1276215030881; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.57.16 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:10:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C114DAC.5070006@el.net> References: <4C114DAC.5070006@el.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:10:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: kalin m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:10:32 -0000 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:40 PM, kalin m wrote: > > > > hi all... > reading > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html > > i did get an access file set up. it doesn't do anything thought... > i have only entry like this: > > some.domain.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0OK > > and did make. then changed /etc/defaults/rc.conf to > sendmail_enable=3D"YES".... > > restarted sendmail. cool. so far. now mail is a accepted from everywhere = not > only the entry in access: some.domain.com > > why? > As far as I understand it, the access file makes more fine-grained "decisions." That is, sendmail allows everything and the access file allows you to discriminate more precisely. Notice that the example has (something like) : spam.com REJECT . . . okay.spam.com OK So, if you only want to allow emails only from some.domain.com then you have to REJECT all other domains . . . good luck ;-) > thanks... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 02:16:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8A91065678 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD9A8FC1D for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16:44 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AogFAGQ3EUx5LWG+/2dsb2JhbACDHo9NjAxyrXg0kDiBJoMDbwSDSQ Received: from ppp121-45-97-190.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.97.190]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2010 11:46:44 +0930 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:46:41 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> In-Reply-To: <1276190395.5437.53.camel@jane.spg.more.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201006111146.42080.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: Switched to Bash and Comparison of Shells X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16:46 -0000 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:49 am, Dan D Niles wrote: > I had been using csh/tcsh for 20 years and I just switched to > bash. The recent discussion about the differences between the > shells prompted me to take another look at bash. I thought > I'd share my perception of the differences between tcsh and > bash. It seems to me that it is a little late in the day to be changing to bash. Some well known Linux distributions are beginning to see that some non-posix features of bash can create difficulties. I believe recent releases of Ubuntu use dash as the prefered shell, and it looks as though Debian will be going the same way. Dash is supposed to be a modern, faster and cleaner implementation of sh -- if installed through FBSD ports it has the same man page as sh. > > The big thing tcsh is lacking, and the reason I switched, is > the lack of sensible redirection (as some call it). > Specifically, not being able to do 'command 2>/dev/null > >/somefile' is why I switched. I'm also a long time csh/tcsh user (somewhat more than 20 years) and freely admit that redirection at the command line can occassionally be a problem. I've always used sh for any serious scripting. Unless you wish to play with one or other fairly common but lesser known shells such as zsh or ksh then I would suggest that sh or dash (perhaps with a -E or -V option for interactive use) would be more appropriate than bash in a modern OS. But ultimately each to his own. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 04:42:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150791065687 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from zhhdzmsp-nwas16.bluewin.ch (nwas16.bluewin.ch [195.186.228.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E9A8FC21 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [85.2.171.27] ([85.2.171.27:62468] helo=saturn.pcs.ms) by zhhdzmsp-nwas16.bluewin.ch (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.45 r()) with ESMTP id C2/14-14155-9CEB11C4; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:42:51 +0000 Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5B4gb30058284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:42:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o5B4gbsI058283; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:42:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:42:37 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100611044235.GA58276@saturn.pcs.ms> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: x11/kdebase4-workspace: build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:42:53 -0000 Hello While I'm on the upgradeing path to KDE 4.4.4 I get the follwoing error in = x11/kdebase4-workspace. Any ideas? Kind regards, =3D=3D=3D> Building for kdebase-workspace-4.4.4=0D [ 0%] [ 0%] Built target kgreet_generic_automoc=0D Built target kgreet_classic_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target kgreet_winbind_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target plasmaclock_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target kworkspace_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target kded_kephal_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target plasmagenericshell_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target solidcontrol_automoc=0D [ 0%] [ 0%] Built target solid_fakenet_automoc=0D Built target solid_fakenet_static_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target solidcontrolifaces_automoc=0D [ 0%] Built target actions for org.kde.ksysguard.processlisthelper=0D [ 0%] Built target lsofui_automoc=0D [ 2%] Built target kephal=0D [ 2%] [ 2%] Built target ksysguardprocesslist_helper_automoc=0D Built target processcore_automoc=0D [ 2%] Built target taskmanager_automoc=0D [ 2%] Built target processui_automoc=0D [ 2%] Built target ksignalplotter_automoc=0D [ 2%] Built target systemsettingsview_automoc=0D [ 2%] Built target 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Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 06:23:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ABA1065673 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51D88FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so624806wwb.13 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:23:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.168.198 with SMTP id k48mr1371614wel.56.1276237425998; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.167.137 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:23:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100610151841.GA13235@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20100610151841.GA13235@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:23:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: Erik Trulsson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:23:48 -0000 Hi, Ah, I see. So if I need a more advanced version of some software, that has been installed as a package, I can use portupgrade (or other port management tools) to upgrade the package to a port. Am I right? Thanks, Antonio (As a newbie I'm somewhat concerned about keeping consistency between package and port versions, but I suppose this is handled by port management tools automagically) 2010/6/10 Erik Trulsson : > > A package is best seen as simply a pre-compiled port, i.e. packages are > built from ports. After it has been installed there is no > difference between software installed via ports or software installed > via packages. > > > > > -- > > Erik Trulsson > ertr1013@student.uu.se > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 07:04:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0945106567B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from d.mail.ru.ac.za (d.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F438FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:04:23 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=qqNIgc25XXc0IUFnOhIGpeno77/BGoNoGsqfiysO6Jkxwv4bLepnbtVt2nqhWl521MVMRJrrysM2tMilS96Kn/QzwswEktOE7A1BuREgIy1TVX/F8QrFmCZjZNr9WeWZ; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:64605) by d.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMyHt-000I35-MS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:21 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> <4C11133C.1070203@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C11133C.1070203@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: d.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:4) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:04:24 -0000 On Thursday 10 June 2010 18:30:52 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 10/06/2010 17:12:50, Jerry wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 > > > > Jonathan McKeown articulated: > >> > >> Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the > >> load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase > >> care so little about their reputation or the impression this is > >> giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their > >> competence and diligence. > > > > I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never > > noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists > > like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful. > > VERP itself is reasonably lightweight, as it modifies the envelope > sender address -- something that can be applied during processing by the > MTA as part of sending the message. > > As far as mail delivery goes, that's a very different story -- it > goes from one message with tens of thousands of recipients, to tens > of thousands of messages each with one recipient. Exactly - you can't batch up all the messages for users at the same domain because they now have different envelope senders. The impact of that on your mail delivery system (and the receiver's SMTP receiving system) depends on whether you have lots of individual subscribers, or several large groups. Having said that, I looked up VERP last night to check that I was right about the extra load, and came across a reference to VERP being the idea of DJB, and being acceptable to qmail users because there's no penalty load - qmail never batches up messages for the same domain, always sending each one individually. Is that true? It seems an odd design decision to me. 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[http://mailer.makemeweb.net/unsubscribe.php?M=101419&C=4455b2d881a882568d8490dfcc5a99f6&L=4&N=92] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 08:22:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B841065688 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5559F8FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:22:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so1152880iwn.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.145.79 with SMTP id c15mr1508015ibv.102.1276244570320; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.148.201 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:22:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100610151841.GA13235@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:22:30 +0300 Message-ID: To: Antonio Vieiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on packages and ports (and versions) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:22:51 -0000 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > Hi, > > Ah, I see. > > So if I need a more advanced version of some software, that has been > installed as a package, I can use portupgrade (or other port > management tools) to upgrade the package to a port. Am I right? The packages are built from the ports tree itself. Therefore if your ports tree matches the one that is used to build the packages exactly you will have no problems. If your ports tree is newer you will have no problems attempting to upgrade using a port. However if you want to use packages after you upgraded via ports and the build cluster has yet to catch up to your version the package may "depend" on an old version and see to install it. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 09:34:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9CA106566C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234F58FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o5B9YYLZ074997 ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:34:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627858A073; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:34:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 512FA2C; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:34:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:34:33 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cracauer@cons.org Message-ID: <20100611093433.GA63854@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4C12032A.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C12032A.004/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Cc: Subject: Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:34:37 -0000 Martin Cracauer wrote: > Right now I think there's a general lack of people building CMUCL > binaries, BTW. There are "recent" cmucl binaries built here: http://common-lisp.net/project/cmucl/downloads/snapshots/2009/01/ for freebsd 7 and freebsd 8. I think this is for x86, not x86-64 but they should work, it is not clear for me if cmucl makes use of 64 bits anyways (maxima doesn't). Unfortunately there are not more recent snapshots for freebsd 8 and no freebsd snapshots at all since 2010. In january 2010 there is the comment: " The FreeBSD binaries I had uploaded for the snapshot were flawed: I just discovered that I accidentally built them without Unicode support. To avoid confusion, these binaries have been removed. -- Alex Goncharov, 2010-03-30 " Being a maxima user i am very attached to cmucl which works very well with maxima (faster than sbcl), and i have in the past compiled cmucl using older cmucl versions, which works quite easily. Here i am afraid that Alex Goncharov has encountered some problem, and also that Darwin, Linux and NetBSD support were considered more important ... -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 11:59:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816D8106564A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364B08FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so789250gwj.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.249.31 with SMTP id w31mr3628600ybh.20.1276257559392; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net [67.189.160.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t1sm9504334ybi.10.2010.06.11.04.59.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0B16E54809 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:59:14 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100611075914.4f2ba320@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: MPCUSTOMER: Possible culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:59:20 -0000 Just posted on the GNUPG mail forum: The culprit was support@resell.biz - I unsubscribed this address and banned it from further subscriptions Evidently, they were able to find who how compromised their mail system. -- Jerry FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 13:30:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C051065678 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9FE8FC1A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so803598fxm.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:30:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eODyTTsJklkrNr4JwIOAMt8yPgxhON/CGC2fk8kAxII=; b=pCSvsYmn4XWZzljno4TwoATljVAChmTOmTsD97lz5zx5eljE+srQvSk3ig+WyN3beC Sw35v5164h4pSZ00KQG5rENICJcKSxY+DIkH8sSEHsK8GlMmdLA05daRoCG0olmOvHGt irx0lu0AMs5J2IsTsbHqIe9P9KH+G8TxMbQF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HnV0VDVd/aWlyo8ot18uhqZsyca8lbE0AqHqFgEH3vAbsBrhI9E+UwpUeDJmF2QRIw EDHJ/JQaVp8l274c+csHHPFKpqspDAmjiOZWZ57BkgmBe0SyhLohOEZHagJg+O//9aZc xNWxTtpPXaunAkTcqpE7x6bQC5m9AYKQIvdEI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.145 with SMTP id u17mr1953627wee.84.1276263000422; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:30:00 -0200 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:30:02 -0000 hello, in my machine i have gentoo and freebsd installed. i was using gentoo until i installed successfully FBSD,now i want to make my FBSD slice bigger.. i have 4 slices: ad0s1->gentoo ad0s2->linux swap ad0s3->free space (no type) ad0s4->FBSD ad0s4a->/ ad0s4b->FBSD swap ad0s4c->/home how can i make my ad0s4a and ad0s4c slices bigger? P.S.: i want to take space from ad0s3 thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 13:41:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59D71065675 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2B08FC23 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ON4Tn-0005IT-7G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:41:03 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5BDf2cD005930 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:41:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o5BDf24j005929 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:41:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:41:02 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100611134102.GA5905@current.Sisis.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:41:09 -0000 El día Friday, June 11, 2010 a las 11:30:00AM -0200, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas escribió: > hello, > > in my machine i have gentoo and freebsd installed. > > i was using gentoo until i installed successfully FBSD,now i want to make my > FBSD slice bigger.. > > i have 4 slices: > > ad0s1->gentoo > ad0s2->linux swap > ad0s3->free space (no type) > ad0s4->FBSD > ad0s4a->/ > ad0s4b->FBSD swap > ad0s4c->/home > > how can i make my ad0s4a and ad0s4c slices bigger? The only way is making a DUMP to some other device (like USB) or to some other machine in the network, boot from DVD an rescue system, re-slice/re-size ad0s4 and RESTORE the dumps. > P.S.: i want to take space from ad0s3 You may use the entire ad0s3 or slice it with sysinstall, make file system(s) and mount them onto your existing system. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 14:06:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06638106567F for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw2.surf-town.net (mail5.surf-town.net [212.97.132.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A63C8FC1E for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw2.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 265BB3814A; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:06:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw2.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D723814A; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:06:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw2.surf-town.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mailgw2.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw2.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dbI3QiB-K2v5; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-b486e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.134.180]) by mailgw2.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129B93834F; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C1242C8.2050308@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:06:00 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100609 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:06:11 -0000 2010-06-11 15:30, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas skrev: > hello, > > in my machine i have gentoo and freebsd installed. > > i was using gentoo until i installed successfully FBSD,now i want to make my > FBSD slice bigger.. > > i have 4 slices: > > ad0s1->gentoo > ad0s2->linux swap > ad0s3->free space (no type) > ad0s4->FBSD > ad0s4a->/ > ad0s4b->FBSD swap > ad0s4c->/home > > how can i make my ad0s4a and ad0s4c slices bigger? > P.S.: i want to take space from ad0s3 > > thanks in advance > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Firstly, ad0s4 is slice. ad0s4a and ad0s4c are not slices, but partitions within the ad0s4 slice. Secondly, the c partition of ANY slice is expected to cover the entire slice, i.e. NOT be used for a file system. Perhaps it is possible to do so, but it is not recommended. For historical reasons, I've been told, and that history goes farther back than my *nix experience, and I never researched it further. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us. With that in mind, if I were you, I'd backup the / and /home partitions, delete the s4 slice and make the s3 slice cover the combined space of the current s3 and s4 slices (using either fdisk directly or sysinstall's interactive frontend to fdisk) without touching s1 and s2, and then partition the new s3 like this. ad0s3a --> / ad0s3b --> swap ad0s3d --> /home To make backups, just boot into single user and do not mount / rw. You'll need some extra storage, e.g. a USB disk, to store the backup. To do the reslicing, repartitioning and restoring the backups, you'll need to boot from some other medium, e.g. the LiveFS CD. When making and restoring the backups, you may also need to have a writable /tmp directory. You can accomplish this by mdmfs -M -S -s 20m md /tmp which will give you a 20 MB filesystem stored in RAM with soft-updates disabled. That should be sufficient. This is how I would do it. Perhaps someone else has a better, simpler approach. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 16:17:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A8A1065677 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3B08FC1B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm34 with SMTP id 34so444342yxm.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:17:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WdRSt/6NZQql67Avh6anU1xCf72bZjKYQK+qKz0UNO8=; b=LGQXzESzo7W8nDvMV8GW1JpPYqJvtery/zsEKLEXLA4r8yPcBhV2e92igq28n0fFfe k00KNvidqhOMOt97nS7T3b5nOpnNYqRpQIOOARZQjrbTpcsxzo1csWDJFa0sLJbvBwYW bRwyAg++ynu5Mj/jmhu/ti2FR7p96FsYT1zFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DJsa4cRjUJfwWO/diBZdyk/ic0Zu9E5C7cucJv7j8D7xekHsASiy+Oe6qPWOyn1dme tOrnWx+Vqf26I08Cth+d5txKU1iWmtXHsHDAfwzEi47Wpl9VZjbn/+cOJ2nEL3IApfj0 RfH2D0vARDh4244tlySeS/WuusSQdfK0SS0HU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.85 with SMTP id z63mr1153299wee.105.1276273043868; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:17:23 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:17:26 -0000 thanks for the information but the point is that i don't know how to merge s4 and s3 with sysinstall. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 17:04:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6761065676 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A428FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o5BH1OUu092704; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:01:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o5BH1NPG092703; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:01:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:01:23 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-ID: <20100611170123.GB92639@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:04:53 -0000 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 07:17:23PM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > thanks for the information but > the point is that i don't know how to merge s4 and s3 with sysinstall. You just delete those two slices and then make a new s3 that contains all the space of both. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 17:17:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA371065678 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FED8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1228173wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z3bzCdXHR9T48iGr76D3Wf59nsQ6IgqSt/PIhFni9BE=; b=pZ3pcXM+rlXWscc5rJo3JPQCcuzGPiMv4CGvHD6ytOS6xOtqQCoOBVkOA246Og+JDD LPR5wU+/YyxNChp8J+FQfM5wSLVMsS7lieE2dTHK0sa6sEnTUffGIFO5amyZ1Qim8k6b UbPAbXm4cy6AGTZMxg8/C2jz/ECqi6sY7hPbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qu44Wt4bPZ5DmKVPWl6Z/b9meiQJbHfiyN7tQ8kerzRsfhdhYcrwBHjXlbXeacQF9E KLRcAQvhON0t4DbIci0VnHf7kS8NDo5cILq10Niksza8AElclSWcoQORyTrR4GwGWwOp +xWmSG8z7gybX6hQSRb4ZlxeW5fZWMVX38hfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.18 with SMTP id x18mr2282920wee.88.1276276634832; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:17:14 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:17:17 -0000 ok,but if i delete this 2 slices then i will delete my entire system.. then should i have to install it from the beggining,but i don't want to do that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 17:49:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE198106566B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBC28FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1104407fxm.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v/tnT9jEx4OFu70rdBt2bnp0l8PiS2Rj7Ktj3YXP16w=; b=hKAT8i7GpJQ9jSBUahUYHKPH9RYXMICVyoKEl9tHreMtK93VsattKuI32Fwrci/vFb HEZEEUZM6StVipMvvSQdi4aIdelGUuYM3LDDozLelSTDwGBAzE0OwQmTgzeuGwYmkSZ8 c0qlYYSi+v7feHAoKUIDKXB4CBHpPqzREf3WM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=owXiXLnRmGFm7ksVLUgjm3p96LPN+Ci4kYu96cWkkVnGsgWDap/1CEG5k1cS0XG44P 6OGgveRYXEXmzgfrPL0oRGtAG5myDQEe7IA6omChlla44wEMbtTkgD7WQXOYNyE9h6g8 XosBD99/3p4jzVp0IrcchA7o/nsJo0H58OrLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.153.149 with SMTP id f21mr2290354wek.2.1276278577287; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:49:37 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: error with linux-f10-flashplugin10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:49:39 -0000 hello, while i am trying to install the port flashplugin i came up with this error. fetch: > http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz: > size mismatch: expected 4050435, actual 4760657 > fetch: > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.0r45/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > i have tryed to install it as a package but it failed too. thanks in advance From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 18:03:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE521065689 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263B08FC19 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1119557fxm.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.160.70 with SMTP id t48mr2326561wek.82.1276279425982; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (255.pool85-54-56.dynamic.orange.es [85.54.56.255]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w27sm688389weq.22.2010.06.11.11.03.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C127A47.8070706@antonioshome.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:02:47 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091123 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:03:48 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to install port "iso8879" in 8.0-RELEASE (needed by docbook and by gnome and wxgtk28) and I'm getting the problem below. I contacted the maintainer without success. Any ideas, anyone? Thanks in advance, Antonio [root@casa /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879]# make ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Extracting for iso8879-1986_2 => MD5 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip. => SHA256 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip. ===> Patching for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on executable: unzip - found ===> Configuring for iso8879-1986_2 [root@casa /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879]# make install ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip caution: filename not matched: -d caution: filename not matched: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879 *** Error code 11 If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try again the build fails too: [root@casa /usr/ports/textproc/iso8879]# make install ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE => isoENTS.zip doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/kuriyama/. isoENTS.zip 100% of 20 kB 25 kBps ===> Extracting for iso8879-1986_2 => MD5 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip. => SHA256 Checksum OK for isoENTS.zip. ===> Patching for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on executable: unzip - found ===> Configuring for iso8879-1986_2 ===> Installing for iso8879-1986_2 ===> iso8879-1986_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/xmlcatmgr - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip caution: filename not matched: -d caution: filename not matched: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879 *** Error code 11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 18:24:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DBE1065676 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [204.109.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED7F8FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 56C485CCC; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:23:41 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Antonio Vieiro Message-ID: <20100611192341.000020a1@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4C127A47.8070706@antonioshome.net> References: <4C127A47.8070706@antonioshome.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:24:05 -0000 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:02:47 +0200 Antonio Vieiro wrote: > I'm trying to install port "iso8879" in 8.0-RELEASE (needed by > docbook and by gnome and wxgtk28) and I'm getting the problem below. > > I contacted the maintainer without success. Any ideas, anyone? > ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed > Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip > caution: filename not matched: -d > caution: filename not matched: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879 > *** Error code 11 > > If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try > again the build fails too: It looks like a problem with the zip command in textproc/iso8879/Makefile: @${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -d ${INSTDIR} I don't know what the solution is, but http://installingcats.com/2008/05/23/caution-filename-not-matched-unzipping-multiple-files/ explains what the error means. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 18:27:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12A81065672 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnmtw@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw9.surf-town.net (mail9.surf-town.net [212.97.132.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B338FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw9.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 064009BA53; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:03:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw9.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF219BA42; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:03:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw9.surf-town.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mailgw9.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw9.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id A382E-HXJvM1; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:03:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-b486e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.134.180]) by mailgw9.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3DF9BA54; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:03:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C127A5A.2030306@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:03:06 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100609 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:27:22 -0000 2010-06-11 19:17, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas skrev: > ok,but if i delete this 2 slices then i will delete my entire system.. > > then should i have to install it from the beggining,but i don't want to do > that. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Read my previous description of how I would have approached the problem, and the answers shall come to you... In case you don't know how to back up data, read the dump(8) and restore(8) man pages. If you don't have access to any external space, e.g. a USB disk or network access to sufficient storage space, you may need to consider backing up only the important files from the /home partition and personalised config files from /etc and /usr/local/etc to a DVD, reinstall the system from scratch (the installation program lets you delete the s3 and s4 slices and create a new, bigger s3 slice), and then restore the backed up files. If you don't even have a DVD recorder, try accessing the Linux slice. I've never used it myself, but FreeBSD should be able to access ext* file systems, and store the backup there. Do this BEFORE reinstalling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 18:34:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECEB1065676 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646388FC23 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o5BIYAu9039359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:34:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5BIYAc6030546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:34:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o5BIYAwJ030545; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:34:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:34:10 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20100611183410.GA36450@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4C127A47.8070706@antonioshome.net> <20100611192341.000020a1@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100611192341.000020a1@unknown> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:34:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: pav@freebsd.org, Antonio Vieiro , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:34:14 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 11), Bruce Cran said: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:02:47 +0200 > Antonio Vieiro wrote: > > > I'm trying to install port "iso8879" in 8.0-RELEASE (needed by > > docbook and by gnome and wxgtk28) and I'm getting the problem below. > > > > I contacted the maintainer without success. Any ideas, anyone? > > > ===> Checking if textproc/iso8879 already installed > > Archive: /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip > > caution: filename not matched: -d > > caution: filename not matched: /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879 > > *** Error code 11 > > > > If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try > > again the build fails too: > > It looks like a problem with the zip command in > textproc/iso8879/Makefile: > > @${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -d ${INSTDIR} The -d option to unzip is dangerous imho, since it's in the wrong location (at the end of the comamndline, after everything else). Safer to use cd ${INSTDIR} && ${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 19:09:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676CB1065677 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38F98FC1A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm7 with SMTP id 7so1191050fxm.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.196 with SMTP id u46mr531276wee.114.1276283387557; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (255.pool85-54-56.dynamic.orange.es [85.54.56.255]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d37sm717682wej.18.2010.06.11.12.09.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C1289C0.1010807@antonioshome.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:08:48 +0200 From: Antonio Vieiro User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091123 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C127A47.8070706@antonioshome.net> <20100611192341.000020a1@unknown> <20100611183410.GA36450@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100611183410.GA36450@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with textproc/iso8879 port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:09:50 -0000 On 11/06/10 20:34, Dan Nelson wrote: >>> If I remove the file in /usr/ports/distfiles/isoENTS.zip and try >>> again the build fails too: >> >> It looks like a problem with the zip command in >> textproc/iso8879/Makefile: >> >> @${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} -d ${INSTDIR} > > The -d option to unzip is dangerous imho, since it's in the wrong location > (at the end of the comamndline, after everything else). Safer to use > > cd ${INSTDIR}&& ${UNZIP_CMD} -q -o ${DISTDIR}/${DISTFILES} > Thanks all for this. I got it working (docbook is being installed as I write this and yes, I'm using the new parallel make on a QuadCore and things fly indeed [1] ). As I'm still a FreeBSD newbie I don't dare to write a patch for this yet. (I still have to learn what ${EXTRACT_BEFORE_ARGS} means in that makefile, for instance). I'm a little bit overwhelmed with FreeBSD documentation. I've just found the "FreeBSD Porter's Handbook". I think I should read that first. Thanks again, Antonio [1] Excerpt from "top -P" while running make... CPU 0: 75.3% user, 0.0% nice, 12.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 12.7% idle CPU 1: 77.9% user, 0.0% nice, 9.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 12.7% idle CPU 2: 85.0% user, 0.0% nice, 10.5% system, 0.0% interrupt, 4.5% idle CPU 3: 93.6% user, 0.0% nice, 4.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 1.5% idle I just love that! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 19:23:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1041065675 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Vikash.Badal@is.co.za) Received: from morpheus.is.co.za (morpheus.is.co.za [196.35.45.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A1F8FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from morpheus.is.co.za (localhost.is.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by morpheus.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC95F3B1E for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:23:45 +0200 (SAST) Received: from ZABRYSVISMFW (zajnbisit.mfw.is.co.za [196.26.2.106]) by morpheus.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CD9F3B17 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:23:45 +0200 (SAST) Received: from zabrysvisexhub3.af.didata.local (Not Verified[10.1.8.38]) by ZABRYSVISMFW with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:23:54 +0200 Received: from ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local ([fe80::914a:a14c:13c1:d279]) by zabrysvisexhub3.af.didata.local ([fe80::9023:67c3:e2b7:a5ba%10]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:23:03 +0200 From: Vikash Badal To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:23:43 +0200 Thread-Topic: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 Thread-Index: Acr4/nWBtJH08K8LQF2QG0p7qeSiSQQnN2SA Message-ID: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA643@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-ZA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:23:49 -0000 Greetings. I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely In a worker thread, I have the following. ----------- =20 LogMessage(DEBUG_0, "allocated %ld", malloc_usable_size(inst)); =20 =20 =20 free(inst); =20 =20 =20 LogMessage(DEBUG_0, "after free allocated %ld", malloc_usable_size(i= nst)); =20 free(inst); =20 =20 =20 return 0; ----------- output> allocated 2304 output> after free allocated 2304 from playing around, this should have segfaulted but it didn't: if I try this from a non threaded, non socket code: ------------------ =20 char *z; =20 z =3D (char*)malloc(1000); =20 printf("malloc is %ld\n", malloc_usable_size(z)); =20 free(z); =20 printf("after malloc is %ld\n", malloc_usable_size(z)); ------------------ Output> malloc is 1024 Output> Segmentation fault (core dumped) Can anyone enlighten me ? why did the 2nd free not cause a segmentation f= ault ? If im not clear, please forgive me. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 19:32:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06CD106567C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F258FC1C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o5BJGsQY024375 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:16:54 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o5BJGnMg024360; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:16:49 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 3F9D0BE93; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:15:55 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <201006110904.21493.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> (message from Jonathan McKeown on Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:21 +0200) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20100610121250.6ae70dfb@scorpio> <4C11133C.1070203@infracaninophile.co.uk> <201006110904.21493.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Message-Id: <20100611191556.3F9D0BE93@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:33:00 -0000 >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:04:21 +0200, >> Jonathan McKeown said: J> I looked up VERP last night to check that I was right about the extra J> load, and came across a reference to VERP being the idea of DJB, and J> being acceptable to qmail users because there's no penalty load - qmail J> never batches up messages for the same domain, always sending each one J> individually. Is that true? It seems an odd design decision to me. That decision has been the subject of countless arguments. Here's the rationale, according to "The Qmail Handbook". You have these basic choices when sending a message to three users on the same host: 1. Open an SMTP connection to the server, send a copy to user1, another copy to user2, the last to user3, close the connection. 2. Start three processes. Each one opens an SMTP connection, sends a copy to one user, and closes. 3. Open an SMTP connection to the server, send one copy addressed to all three recipients, close the connection. (1) is the worst; if the message is small, it takes at least as much time as (3). If the message is huge, it takes a lot longer and wastes bandwidth. (3) is most efficient in terms of network bandwidth. (2) is what qmail uses. It wastes bandwidth but allows SMTP round-trip delays to occur in parallel, so it's usually faster than (3). It's simpler than (3) so the MTA code is easier to write and verify. Finally, you can use VERP because each user gets their own copy. There are pathological cases where it's slower than (3), but VERP allows bad bounces to be handled automatically, and this plus the code simplicity was considered more important. The bandwidth difference was often exaggerated because: a. most messages have multiple recipients *on separate hosts*, so (3) would not be possible in the first place, and b. SMTP usually takes up a small fraction of the bandwidth on a given host compared to (say) HTTP. If SMTP takes 10% of your bandwidth and you can save 25% of that by using method (3), now it will take 7.5%. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Freedom is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear. --George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 19:48:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1575B1065677 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C268FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20so528087vws.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:48:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.0.160 with SMTP id 32mr865255qab.284.1276285715612; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.232.207 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:48:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:48:35 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LRNWSJPufjhsng2rykirm3Byarw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: jay west Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone aware of dahdi port not working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:48:37 -0000 It does not compile in FBSD 7 either. I had to to settle for Asterisk 1.4 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM, jay west wrote: > I emailed the maintainer but got no response. > > Fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0-Release and a port collection from around > 6/5/10. Did a make on the dahdi-2.3.0rc2 port, but it fails. > > I can provide details, but was wondering if it was something on my machine > or if others have noticed this and are aware of it? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 19:56:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A934E106566C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5514F8FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o5BJuUqI049064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:56:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5BJuTuq025655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:56:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o5BJuTaP025651; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:56:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:56:29 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Vikash Badal Message-ID: <20100611195628.GB36450@dan.emsphone.com> References: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA643@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA643@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:56:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:56:31 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 11), Vikash Badal said: > I have a thread socket application that seems to be behaving strangely > > In a worker thread, I have the following. > > ----------- > LogMessage(DEBUG_0, "allocated %ld", malloc_usable_size(inst)); > free(inst); > LogMessage(DEBUG_0, "after free allocated %ld", malloc_usable_size(inst)); > free(inst); > return 0; > ----------- > output> allocated 2304 > output> after free allocated 2304 > > from playing around, this should have segfaulted but it didn't: > > if I try this from a non threaded, non socket code: > ------------------ > char *z; > > z = (char*)malloc(1000); > printf("malloc is %ld\n", malloc_usable_size(z)); > free(z); > printf("after malloc is %ld\n", malloc_usable_size(z)); > ------------------ > > Output> malloc is 1024 > Output> Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > Can anyone enlighten me ? why did the 2nd free not cause a segmentation > fault ? You asked this same question on May 24: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-May/216652.html The answer is still the same: You're invoking undefined behaviour here by calling malloc_usable_size on a free'd pointer. The function is free to crash, return useful data, or return useless data, at its discretion :) The fix is to remove your second call to malloc_usable_size(z)). Then neither version will crash. Also, a useful habit to start is to explicitly zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being used accidentally later. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 20:14:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81711065674 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Vikash.Badal@is.co.za) Received: from morpheus.is.co.za (morpheus.is.co.za [196.35.45.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3202D8FC1E for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from morpheus.is.co.za (localhost.is.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by morpheus.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E089F3FE3; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:14:16 +0200 (SAST) Received: from ZABRYSVISMFW3 (zajnbisit03.mfw.is.co.za [196.26.2.110]) by morpheus.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id D560CF3FDF; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:14:15 +0200 (SAST) Received: from zabrysvisexhub2.af.didata.local (Not Verified[10.1.8.39]) by ZABRYSVISMFW3 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:13:30 +0200 Received: from ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local ([fe80::914a:a14c:13c1:d279]) by zabrysvisexhub2.af.didata.local ([fe80::486:fd5b:97f4:6b92%10]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:13:33 +0200 From: Vikash Badal To: Dan Nelson Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:14:13 +0200 Thread-Topic: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 Thread-Index: AcsJoER5Jhvxl12XQAqKq3uBOAXeBgAANYMQ Message-ID: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA644@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> References: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA643@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> <20100611195628.GB36450@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20100611195628.GB36450@dan.emsphone.com> Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-ZA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:14:18 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dan Nelson > Sent: 11 June 2010 09:56 PM > To: Vikash Badal > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 >=20 =20 > The fix is to remove your second call to malloc_usable_size(z)). Then > neither version will crash. Also, a useful habit to start is to > explicitly > zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being used > accidentally > later. Made this change: ----------- =20 LogMessage(DEBUG_0, "allocated %ld", malloc_usable_size(inst)); =20 =20 =20 free(inst); =20 free(inst); =20 =20 =20 return 0; ----------- Still no seg fault. The reason im am doing this is that from top I can see the memory grow as= =20I connect to this app. When I disconnect, the memory used ( as displayed from top ) does not dec= rease. I tried: ------------- char *chunk; chunk =3D (char*) malloc(1200000); sleep(30); free(chunk) sleep(30); free(inst); free(inst); ------------------ Top show the memory for the chunk section increase and then decrease whe= n freed However, the when I leave the worker thread ( close the connection ), the= =20memory usage does not decrease. The more connections I open and close, the faster the memory grows. >=20 > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Please note: This email and its content are subject to the disclaimer as = displayed at the following link http://www.is.co.za/legal/E-mail+Confiden= tiality+Notice+and+Disclaimer.htm. Should you not have Web access, send a= =20mail to disclaimers@is.co.za and a copy will be emailed to you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 20:30:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA491065672 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1e6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37DE8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:105e::1e6]) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5BKUq8D075472; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:30:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o5BKUqpu075471; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:30:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:30:52 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20100611203052.GA73151@cons.org> References: <20100611093433.GA63854@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100611093433.GA63854@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: cracauer@cons.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:30:54 -0000 Michel Talon wrote on Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:34:33AM +0200: > Martin Cracauer wrote: > > > Right now I think there's a general lack of people building CMUCL > > binaries, BTW. > > There are "recent" cmucl binaries built here: > http://common-lisp.net/project/cmucl/downloads/snapshots/2009/01/ > for freebsd 7 and freebsd 8. > I think this is for x86, not x86-64 but they should work, it is not > clear for me if cmucl makes use of 64 bits anyways (maxima doesn't). There has never been a 64 bit port of CMUCL. There is a partial port for amd64 by Ed Wang, but it never got finished. > Unfortunately there are not more recent snapshots for freebsd 8 and no > freebsd snapshots at all since 2010. > > In january 2010 there is the comment: > " > The FreeBSD binaries I had uploaded for the snapshot were flawed: I > just discovered that I accidentally built them without Unicode > support. To avoid confusion, these binaries have been removed. > > -- Alex Goncharov, 2010-03-30 > " Alex has retired from making CMUCL for FreeBSD snapshots. I volunteered to take over but real life got in the way. I don't have any 32 bit FreeBSD installations left in my home farm. So to build the 32 bit binaries for various FreeBSD versions I probably need to install a bunch of chroots, which then need the usual enter-chroot customization blues. I didn't do that yet. > Being a maxima user i am very attached to cmucl which works very well > with maxima (faster than sbcl), and i have in the past compiled cmucl > using older cmucl versions, which works quite easily. Here i am afraid > that Alex Goncharov has encountered some problem, and also that Darwin, > Linux and NetBSD support were considered more important ... I'll see whether I can get my behind in gear and get this going this weekend. Interesting you have lower performance in SBCL. Are you comparing a 64 bit SBCL with a 32 bit CMUCL? Is your SBCL binary (whichever bitcount) compiled with thread support? Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 20:45:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D086106567E for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930A8FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id o5BKjIMV055187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5BKjHGp046342 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id o5BKjHA7046341; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:17 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Vikash Badal Message-ID: <20100611204517.GC36450@dan.emsphone.com> References: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA643@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> <20100611195628.GB36450@dan.emsphone.com> <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA644@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9B425C841283E0418B1825D40CBCFA613D9E3CA644@ZABRYSVISEXMBX1.af.didata.local> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: threads and malloc/free on freebsd 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:45:21 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 11), Vikash Badal said: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > The fix is to remove your second call to malloc_usable_size(z)). Then > > neither version will crash. Also, a useful habit to start is to > > explicitly zero the pointer you just free'd, to prevent it from being > > used accidentally later. > > Made this change: > > ----------- > LogMessage(DEBUG_0, "allocated %ld", malloc_usable_size(inst)); > > free(inst); > free(inst); > > return 0; > ----------- > > Still no seg fault. > > The reason im am doing this is that from top I can see the memory grow as > I connect to this app. When I disconnect, the memory used ( as displayed > from top ) does not decrease. For performance reasons, the malloc library may not immediately release free memory back to the OS. Also, depending on the position of the memory block being freed, it may not be releasable back to the OS (if malloc used sbrk for allocations, it can only free memory at the far end of the address space, for example). Setting the environment variable MALLOC_OPTIONS to "dM10f" might help (disable use of sbrk(), enable use of mmap(), don't cache any free pages), but you still may not see any change according to top. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 21:06:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEAE106564A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985EE8FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27199 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2010 21:06:49 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Jun 2010 21:06:48 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 9E33850824; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:06:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:06:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Giorgos Tsiapaliokas's message of "Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:49:37 +0300") Message-ID: <44ocfh5leh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error with linux-f10-flashplugin10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:06:49 -0000 Giorgos Tsiapaliokas writes: > while i am trying to install the port flashplugin i came up with this error. > > fetch: >> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz: >> size mismatch: expected 4050435, actual 4760657 >> fetch: >> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.0r45/install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz: >> File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) Looks like they re-rolled the tarball but kept the same name. The port will need to be updated. In the meantime, you can try downloading the new tarball and using that with the port. You will need to update the size and checksums in the makefile ("make makesum" will do that, if I recall correctly, but you can check in "man ports" to be sure). > i have tryed to install it as a package but it failed too. Right. There are no packages of it; we're not allowed to distribute it. Which also explains why the file isn't available from our own master ftp site, either. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 21:13:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02B31065678 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D5D8FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o5BLDHkC081500 ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:13:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12678A073; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:13:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id CEFED2C; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:13:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:13:16 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Martin Cracauer Message-ID: <20100611211316.GA521@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 4C12A6EE.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4C12A6EE.000/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Cc: Subject: Re: lang/cmucl broken on amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:13:21 -0000 Martin Cracauer wrote: > Interesting you have lower performance in SBCL. Are you comparing a > 64 bit SBCL with a 32 bit CMUCL? Is your SBCL binary (whichever > bitcount) compiled with thread support? I have a 32 bits machine, and i was using the FreeBSD sbcl port without changing any compiling option. It is sufficient to run a number of maxima examples (*) to see that they run frequently faster with cmucl (gcl was also similarly speedy) than with sbcl (sometimes considerably faster). I think having seen similar assertions in maxima mailing list. (*) for example this computation is appropriate http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs/manual/en/maxima_54.html#SEC233 batch("grobner.demo") Another thing to consider is that the cmucl compiler is now able to emit sse2 instructions, and this gives a quite substantial gain in numeric computations under maxima, an example being eigens_by_jacobi on a large matrix, which gets a considerable speed boost. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 21:16:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8A51065677 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@vps.net) Received: from edgelb.ocscloud.net (edge01.ocscloud.net [91.210.68.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9648FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from W01EXHUB01.hosting.tg.local (10.101.22.23) by W01EXEDGE01.hosting.tg.local (91.210.68.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.311.2; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:59 +0100 Received: from EXVS01.hosting.tg.local ([10.101.24.35]) by W01EXHUB01.hosting.tg.local ([10.101.22.23]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:58 +0100 From: Marc Bollinger To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:58 +0100 Thread-Topic: mpcustomer.com issue Thread-Index: AcsJqeO+azEMqgoFTw+vTgXcPltLeQ== Message-ID: <98266E9D-7A08-479A-92E6-D3DDA4E10644@vps.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: mpcustomer.com issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:16:53 -0000 All, My name is Marc Bollinger, Director of Development of UK2 Group. 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Best, Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 21:41:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617EF106566C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C3E8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o5BLc98q093451; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o5BLc9Bh093450; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:38:09 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-ID: <20100611213809.GA93415@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:41:39 -0000 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:17:14PM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > ok,but if i delete this 2 slices then i will delete my entire system.. That is why some of the other respondents said you must first create a good dump(8) of those two slices (or at least the one with stuff in it). You don't have to touch the two other slices. There is nothing that will expand a live slice that I know of. I know there is in the MS world, but it is a different situation. > > then should i have to install it from the beggining,but i don't want to do > that. Although I would advise taking a dump(8) of everything with data before starting, since those two slices appear to be adjacent, you should be able to do the operation without affecting the other two slices. But, the two you work on will definitely be affected. You will need to dump and then reload the data.. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:00:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7856B1065674 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D84F8FC20 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so223331qyk.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:00:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.52.164 with SMTP id i36mr974740qag.147.1276293652296; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.229.232.207 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:00:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98266E9D-7A08-479A-92E6-D3DDA4E10644@vps.net> References: <98266E9D-7A08-479A-92E6-D3DDA4E10644@vps.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:00:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cxpMpsyXoAwDieXQ6HlYmEvYJ14 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Marc Bollinger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mpcustomer.com issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:00:53 -0000 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Marc Bollinger wrote: > All, > > My name is Marc Bollinger, Director of Development of UK2 Group. I've recently got word of an annoying problem where our CRM (mpcustomer.com) is sending out auto-responders to this list. > > I subscribed to this list so I can reproduce the problem and help me track it down. Terribly sorry for the problems with this, I can appreciate how annoying it is. > > We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible. > > Best, > Marc > THANKS! It is really annoying!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:00:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDDA106566B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610A78FC19 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1525618wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:00:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eFz0mJEEbxm9r0IMZIM7zQwS0oQKU7LD4bCPLyLovto=; b=Xq7Fu/tgV99dIC3c2HbZvtMYLH9qf4uOJLmbv0aSuZpNG4j82azwzZEITm6+f61beN ww2+mSBkl0mT9+awJa353/3mjUUpa1xTacN6RXfQgGcpq9A7k4P2bqu++MTDXqHRv2gM bjlHP8mGyp2ULZQ8hemKsS68MepE7dBmJzdUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cZpLqpgXfZIeOLXiyWMvkrF1C5MjO615/7Rj9yODqpB+kzGPUjUW9nj9oUpElQm2G9 /vfQ6tdXqILiQQ6f4tZk3Hx2AYmdaz17sNjvp8aeJHrLspw3f1AS5VVu27kQYTc8bZT4 I6GQQa2SjVO1gdlX9+HV8I+T2CI+RdH73lL6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.145 with SMTP id u17mr512238wem.48.1276293657197; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:00:57 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:00:58 -0000 i read the manuals about dump,but they say that if i take a back up of my "/" then dump will not make a backup for /home and /usr. my /home directory is empty but i need the /usr directory. what should i do? can you help me with the syntax of the dump command? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:02:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAB51065748 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E698FC19 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1526916wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:02:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=52YvQZ6CPBb3OqEU8w6a8zFQXZQ9VRRLWkYt9ng+ZJk=; b=hcptYvdVs8YV33Kvi4muLztcUPy3FgkcWq5tCh9Zg10JBngdJb2LSOpvq3VptUNO+E 53RzKDHxT9G50gEb1B85/NrQPwpmsAWhnmFVO4c2WdtcUnQDn8jeNbDS8c7qhMlFcen1 pCod4gDXA9uNMKK6FLXCNq3QHQF1icxxbdjXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=f+HULzzzQAA2y1eozQd8h5zSwNimoNyJhSdj5wJDhCFa/CwqAIeeGwm+S47izibBIJ /44MNZtxy/oX0b8fhkfZ6s0zfKbMdCA1BD4xN2RoQLJbBxtfxSseQCN556IeFWErFRqS dE//YFgck0TfhQ81F9JVNGp3tj6DpHeuvc3Bw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.138 with SMTP id e10mr1486417wef.51.1276293731747; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:02:11 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:error with linux-f10-flashplugin10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:02:13 -0000 thanks for helping me..:) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:05:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF11065670 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1508FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E13225FD0; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Marc Bollinger References: <98266E9D-7A08-479A-92E6-D3DDA4E10644@vps.net> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.7.16; tzolkin = 3 Cib; haab = 9 Zotz Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:05:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: <98266E9D-7A08-479A-92E6-D3DDA4E10644@vps.net> (Marc Bollinger's message of "Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:58 +0100") Message-ID: <86pqzxxm11.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mpcustomer.com issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:46 -0000 >>>>> "Marc" == Marc Bollinger writes: Marc> We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible. I suspect you *already* have your evidence, thanks to the fact that you posted here just now. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:18:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FAF1065678 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E3A8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EA73D4EF; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5BMIJoe002865; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:18:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:18:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612001819.0b7d866f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:18:30 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:00:57 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > i read the manuals about dump,but they say that if i take a back up of my > "/" then dump will not make a backup for /home and /usr. > my /home directory is empty but i need the /usr directory. > > what should i do? > > can you help me with the syntax of the dump command? The dump command operates partition-wise. The common method of using it is # dump -0Lauf The dumpfile can be on a removable media or on a network drive, it can also be a tape. In order to find out what to dump, see the output of "mount". It shows the partitions you can dump, and in most cases, you will dump all of them except the swap partition (which doesn't show up in mount output anyway. So, for example, you can do: # dump -0Lauf /mnt/ /dev/ad0s1a # dump -0Lauf /mnt/ /dev/ad0s1d where your dump media is mounted in /mnt. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:22:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89F71065675 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBF98FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o5BMIgKa093642; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:18:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o5BMIgYm093641; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:18:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:18:42 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-ID: <20100611221842.GA93623@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:22:12 -0000 On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 01:00:57AM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > i read the manuals about dump,but they say that if i take a back up of my > "/" then dump will not make a backup for /home and /usr. > my /home directory is empty but i need the /usr directory. > > what should i do? dump works on file systems, not individual files or directories. if home is something mounted separately, then you run a dump for that. Same for /usr. If /usr is just a directory under root (/) and not a separate file system, then taking a dump of / will get /usr. I don't have a list of your mounted filesystems. ////jerry > > can you help me with the syntax of the dump command? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:23:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7A61065677 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kgc@corp.sonic.net) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18FA8FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from meno.noc.sonic.net (meno.noc.sonic.net [64.142.18.2]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o5BLZqqa023889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:35:52 -0700 Received: from meno.noc.sonic.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meno.noc.sonic.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5BLZqR6010797 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgc@corp.sonic.net) Received: (from kgc@localhost) by meno.noc.sonic.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o5BLZqVf010796 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgc@corp.sonic.net) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:35:52 -0700 From: Kelsey Cummings To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100611213552.GB3154@corp.sonic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://sonic.net/~kgc/gpgkey.txt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Areca RAID Failure? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:23:43 -0000 This isn't specifically freebsd related but I'm fishing to see if anyone has observered similar behavior from and Areca raid controller before. We're already in touch with their support... Last night a disk failed on a 7 disk raid-6 array on a ARC-1220 with 1TB WD REmumble disks. This is certainly normal enough, except that rather than taking the normal ~30 hours to rebuild array after a failure it appears to have added the spare disk directly into the array and started servicing reads from it without rebuilding it from parity! This obviously seriously scrambled the filesystem on it and sorta defeats the whole point of H/W raid in the first place. XFS recovered well enough, but most files are large enough to span a stripe and are corrupted for it. It's currently running a check and is finding lots of errors, I am optomistic that it's check routine might rebuild the data from parity but am glad this occured on a log archiving volume so it isn't a great loss and we don't have to restore from backups anyway. Anyone else seen such amazing examples of FAIL from Areca's? We've got 50 or so 3wares in production and in the past 8 years have only seen one 3ware tank - it destroyed the filesystem on it's way but also complained on the way out and wouldn't initialize since it failed its internal diags. Performance issues or not, at least they do their job. -K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:34:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D564B106566C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0358FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1F395AFC for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyxis.dawnsign.com (unknown [192.168.101.22]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BD095991 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:34:12 -0700 Message-ID: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: messed up ports index Thread-Index: AcsJtjbui+pLTo5kRWiJhiNCtGYjSA== From: "Doug Sampson" To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:34:12 -0000 Hello, I have a messed up ports index that I cannot clean. I want to uninstall lang/php5 but it does not seem to uninstall. The same thing goes for security/php5-hash. I was uninstalling php5 ports in an effort to return to the php52 ports. So that is how this happened. I ran the pkgdb -F but it looks like I chose some unfortunate choices that left me where I am now. How can I dig myself out of this? ~Doug corvus-root@/usr/ports: pkg_version -vo archivers/9e =3D up-to-date with port <..snip..> databases/pgtune =3D up-to-date with port security/php5-hash < needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1) <<<<<<<<<<<< lang/php5 < needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1) <<<<<<<<<<<< lang/php52 =3D up-to-date with port <<<<<<<<<<<< math/php52-bcmath =3D up-to-date with port archivers/php52-bz2 =3D up-to-date with port textproc/php52-ctype =3D up-to-date with port ftp/php52-curl =3D up-to-date with port databases/php52-dba =3D up-to-date with port textproc/php52-dom =3D up-to-date with port graphics/php52-exif =3D up-to-date with port security/php52-filter =3D up-to-date with port ftp/php52-ftp =3D up-to-date with port graphics/php52-gd =3D up-to-date with port devel/php52-gettext =3D up-to-date with port security/php52-hash =3D up-to-date with port <<<<<<<<<<<< converters/php52-iconv =3D up-to-date with port devel/php52-json =3D up-to-date with port <..snip..> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:05:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6510D106566B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@vps.net) Received: from edgelb.ocscloud.net (edge02.ocscloud.net [91.210.68.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00E88FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from W01EXHUB01.hosting.tg.local (10.101.22.23) by W01EXEDGE02.hosting.tg.local (91.210.68.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.311.2; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:37 +0100 Received: from EXVS01.hosting.tg.local ([10.101.24.35]) by W01EXHUB01.hosting.tg.local ([10.101.22.23]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:36 +0100 From: Marc Bollinger To: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:35 +0100 Thread-Topic: mpcustomer.com issue Thread-Index: AcsJsjhpi1p5H9fYRjWehsCm1fcOHA== Message-ID: References: <98266E9D-7A08-479A-92E6-D3DDA4E10644@vps.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:40:06 +0000 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: mpcustomer.com issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:05:39 -0000 I believe I've located the culprit - as long as the mailing list took my un= subscribe request. :) Please feel free to notify me if you still get it.. Sorry again, Marc On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Marc Bollinger wrote: >> All, >>=20 >> My name is Marc Bollinger, Director of Development of UK2 Group. I've re= cently got word of an annoying problem where our CRM (mpcustomer.com) is se= nding out auto-responders to this list. >>=20 >> I subscribed to this list so I can reproduce the problem and help me tra= ck it down. Terribly sorry for the problems with this, I can appreciate how= annoying it is. >>=20 >> We'll get this knocked out as soon as possible. >>=20 >> Best, >> Marc >>=20 >=20 > THANKS! It is really annoying!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:46:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6F3106564A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55578FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1572403wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sIIj0bPqhtbybgNv5TbPuLBjYBpSGh0wGFyw63ue49U=; b=S4c/xpCfwQEC1UM0/615GJ1zTMYdjSsBppQKyFHa8JIZg956xuTlTRVxeV9jL3Rt40 Ag2GVMKt2l5Q9qlZ4qzUI9FeYK09Um0vzHqL4QqmZ0NV1g3SaXYIghgslIyXmJZ+rzJo GcafEP/oEERLNx6kC+LwCPmChpcjhzaq42oKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HE3jY/OhlYIHdWBgMbsX9VCShatsaXhkqaLCCQzjqqI7AAfic+RfnNp+ieus/xQjN+ JT+pxHJYFpM1KgUb91N1u0OcK4m0RMXuFfMYN+VUcgujXn7fHBtOWSIbDwWMrMa98pDl /vFDYVGHx1Y5lRDRksMSVFE2TKpeqYbtcEhoM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.157.201 with SMTP id o51mr709953wek.6.1276296417563; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:46:57 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:46:59 -0000 only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't have any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob) i give as a root the command "dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a" but i receive the following error: DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/ DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks. DUMP: Cannot open output "/mnt/hd/FBSD/". DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect. P.S.:ad0s3a is my root directory (/) s3b is /home and s3d is my swap space From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:48:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FF51065673 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF5C8FC1F for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A1D95991 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyxis.dawnsign.com (unknown [192.168.101.22]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C06E95980 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:48:53 -0700 Message-ID: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> In-Reply-To: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: messed up ports index Thread-Index: AcsJtjbui+pLTo5kRWiJhiNCtGYjSAAAW1Zw References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> From: "Doug Sampson" To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: RE: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:48:53 -0000 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I have a messed up ports index that I cannot clean. I want to > uninstall > lang/php5 but it does not seem to uninstall. The same thing goes for > security/php5-hash. I was uninstalling php5 ports in an effort to > return > to the php52 ports. So that is how this happened. I ran the pkgdb -F > but > it looks like I chose some unfortunate choices that left me where I > am > now. >=20 > How can I dig myself out of this? >=20 > ~Doug >=20 >=20 > corvus-root@/usr/ports: pkg_version -vo > archivers/9e =3D up-to-date with port > <..snip..> > databases/pgtune =3D up-to-date with port > security/php5-hash < needs updating (port has > 5.3.2_1) <<<<<<<<<<<< > lang/php5 < needs updating (port has > 5.3.2_1) <<<<<<<<<<<< > lang/php52 =3D up-to-date with port > <<<<<<<<<<<< > math/php52-bcmath =3D up-to-date with port > archivers/php52-bz2 =3D up-to-date with port > textproc/php52-ctype =3D up-to-date with port > ftp/php52-curl =3D up-to-date with port > databases/php52-dba =3D up-to-date with port > textproc/php52-dom =3D up-to-date with port > graphics/php52-exif =3D up-to-date with port > security/php52-filter =3D up-to-date with port > ftp/php52-ftp =3D up-to-date with port > graphics/php52-gd =3D up-to-date with port > devel/php52-gettext =3D up-to-date with port > security/php52-hash =3D up-to-date with port > <<<<<<<<<<<< > converters/php52-iconv =3D up-to-date with port > devel/php52-json =3D up-to-date with port >=20 > <..snip..> After I googled around some more, I found and ran this: portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5 Now I am left with only one item as follows: php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 < needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1) There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I deinstall and install? ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:51:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D4106564A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9645D8FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:51:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3V00HPGGU3PG90@asmtp026.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:51:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1006110159 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2010-06-11_03:2010-02-06, 2010-06-11, 2010-06-11 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:51:39 -0700 Message-id: <13E1517D-2194-4581-B8D5-F1E3D205E4F0@mac.com> References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> To: Doug Sampson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:51:51 -0000 Hi-- On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Doug Sampson wrote: > portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5 > > Now I am left with only one item as follows: > > php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 < needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1) > > There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I deinstall and install? If I recall right, mhash is now built-in or emulated in php-5.3; I think you can simply deinstall it. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:53:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11601065670 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828DF8FC20 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAAB95B53 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyxis.dawnsign.com (unknown [192.168.101.22]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0453C95B26 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:53:11 -0700 Message-ID: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AF@pyxis.dawnsign.com> In-Reply-To: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: messed up ports index Thread-Index: AcsJtjbui+pLTo5kRWiJhiNCtGYjSAAAW1ZwAABALMA= References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> From: "Doug Sampson" To: "Doug Sampson" , X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: RE: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:53:12 -0000 > > I have a messed up ports index that I cannot clean. I want to > > uninstall > > lang/php5 but it does not seem to uninstall. The same thing goes > for > > security/php5-hash. I was uninstalling php5 ports in an effort to > > return > > to the php52 ports. So that is how this happened. I ran the pkgdb > -F > > but > > it looks like I chose some unfortunate choices that left me where > I > > am > > now. > > > > How can I dig myself out of this? > > > > ~Doug > > > > > > corvus-root@/usr/ports: pkg_version -vo > > archivers/9e =3D up-to-date with port > > <..snip..> > > databases/pgtune =3D up-to-date with port > > security/php5-hash < needs updating (port has > > 5.3.2_1) <<<<<<<<<<<< > > lang/php5 < needs updating (port has > > 5.3.2_1) <<<<<<<<<<<< > > lang/php52 =3D up-to-date with port > > <<<<<<<<<<<< > > math/php52-bcmath =3D up-to-date with port > > archivers/php52-bz2 =3D up-to-date with port > > textproc/php52-ctype =3D up-to-date with port > > ftp/php52-curl =3D up-to-date with port > > databases/php52-dba =3D up-to-date with port > > textproc/php52-dom =3D up-to-date with port > > graphics/php52-exif =3D up-to-date with port > > security/php52-filter =3D up-to-date with port > > ftp/php52-ftp =3D up-to-date with port > > graphics/php52-gd =3D up-to-date with port > > devel/php52-gettext =3D up-to-date with port > > security/php52-hash =3D up-to-date with port > > <<<<<<<<<<<< > > converters/php52-iconv =3D up-to-date with port > > devel/php52-json =3D up-to-date with port > > > > <..snip..> >=20 > After I googled around some more, I found and ran this: >=20 > portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5 >=20 > Now I am left with only one item as follows: >=20 > php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 < needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1) >=20 > There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I > deinstall > and install? >=20 Ooops. I meant to say security/php5-mhash and security/php52-mhash. Again, there is no security/php5-mhash. How can I remove this safely? ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:56:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3A81065670 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017B68FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B8F95B26; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyxis.dawnsign.com (unknown [192.168.101.22]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2FA95977; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:56:07 -0700 Message-ID: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156B0@pyxis.dawnsign.com> In-Reply-To: <13E1517D-2194-4581-B8D5-F1E3D205E4F0@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: messed up ports index Thread-Index: AcsJuK9gDSxsILxPR1GD9IjVcUPAagAAFXUg References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <13E1517D-2194-4581-B8D5-F1E3D205E4F0@mac.com> From: "Doug Sampson" To: "Chuck Swiger" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:56:08 -0000 > On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Doug Sampson wrote: > > portmaster -o lang/php52 lang/php5 > > > > Now I am left with only one item as follows: > > > > php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 < needs updating (port has 5.3.2_1) > > > > There is *no* lang/php5-mhash. Only lang/php52-mhash. Should I > deinstall and install? >=20 > If I recall right, mhash is now built-in or emulated in php-5.3; I > think you can simply deinstall it. >=20 Right. My issue is, there isn't a path of /usr/ports/security/php5-mhash -- only /usr/ports/security/php52-mhash. How can I remove the security/php5-mhash with a missing directory? I am unable to deinstall. How does one remove? ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:56:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6C106568C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFECC8FC1F for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:56:16 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3V002LVH19IM60@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1006110160 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2010-06-11_03:2010-02-06, 2010-06-11, 2010-06-11 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AF@pyxis.dawnsign.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:55:57 -0700 Message-id: <51EACBD7-5D14-4142-B571-D0A15D204F5C@mac.com> References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AF@pyxis.dawnsign.com> To: Doug Sampson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:56:17 -0000 On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Doug Sampson wrote: > I meant to say security/php5-mhash and security/php52-mhash. Again, > there is no security/php5-mhash. How can I remove this safely? pkg_delete -f php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:58:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29CB106566C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [66.80.251.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE528FC21 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caduceus.wingfoot.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A948A39E0D4; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:58:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by caduceus.wingfoot.org (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id ImddXIu68rrJ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Sandal.local (ool-4353640b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.100.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A45539E0BB; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C12BF95.4070104@wingfoot.org> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:58:29 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Sampson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <13E1517D-2194-4581-B8D5-F1E3D205E4F0@mac.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156B0@pyxis.dawnsign.com> In-Reply-To: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156B0@pyxis.dawnsign.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:58:39 -0000 On 6/11/10 6:56 PM, Doug Sampson wrote: > Right. My issue is, there isn't a path of /usr/ports/security/php5-mhash > -- only /usr/ports/security/php52-mhash. How can I remove the > security/php5-mhash with a missing directory? I am unable to deinstall. > How does one remove? pkg_del php5-mhash-* Best, --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:00:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E6D106566C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougs@dawnsign.com) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (cetus.dawnsign.com [216.70.250.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79368FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailfilter.dawnsign.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBCA95980; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyxis.dawnsign.com (unknown [192.168.101.22]) by mailfilter.dawnsign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE5C95977; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:00:38 -0700 Message-ID: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156B1@pyxis.dawnsign.com> In-Reply-To: <51EACBD7-5D14-4142-B571-D0A15D204F5C@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: messed up ports index Thread-Index: AcsJuUufHqSbDCTWRNSI6qZhDr75SAAACtZw References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AF@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <51EACBD7-5D14-4142-B571-D0A15D204F5C@mac.com> From: "Doug Sampson" To: "Chuck Swiger" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:00:39 -0000 > > there is no security/php5-mhash. How can I remove this safely? >=20 > pkg_delete -f php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 >=20 corvus-root@/usr/ports/security/php52-mhash: pkg_delete -f php5-mhash-5.2.12_2 pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mhash.so' doesn't exist pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash/config.h' doesn't exist pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash/php_mhash.h' doesn't exist pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash' doesn't exist pkg_delete: unable to completely remove directory '/usr/local/include/php/ext/mhash' pkg_delete: couldn't entirely delete package (perhaps the packing list is incorrectly specified?) corvus-root@/usr/ports/security/php52-mhash: portversion -v <..snip..> pgtune-0.9.0 =3D up-to-date with port=20 php52-5.2.13_1 =3D up-to-date with port=20 php52-bcmath-5.2.13_1 =3D up-to-date with port <..snip..> Finally, it's gone. Thank you! ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:01:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077A6106567B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DB38FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5BN1BLM087265; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:01:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:01:13 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't > have any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob) > > i give as a root the command "dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a" > > but i receive the following error: > > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/ > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks. > DUMP: Cannot open output "/mnt/hd/FBSD/". > DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") > > i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect. Is there a filesystem at /mnt/hd/FBSD/? Please show us the output of the df command. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:02:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC8E1065672 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37D18FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:02:14 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3V001RZHB8SG80@asmtp023.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1006110160 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2010-06-11_03:2010-02-06, 2010-06-11, 2010-06-11 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156B1@pyxis.dawnsign.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:01:55 -0700 Message-id: References: <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AD@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AE@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156AF@pyxis.dawnsign.com> <51EACBD7-5D14-4142-B571-D0A15D204F5C@mac.com> <292C3F1D7ADD164EA6A058A4C3C8081A0156B1@pyxis.dawnsign.com> To: Doug Sampson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: messed up ports index X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:02:15 -0000 On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Doug Sampson wrote: > Finally, it's gone. Thank you! You're most welcome.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:04:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985DC1065674 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACC58FC1C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so1561820wwb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:04:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XVeWCIjIzmZgvTFY1Lmuq4CoADlzsBQGZMeh+dBv2aM=; b=fyTAww8RQN/6ZHR+1t6RGx+1NIjmIE8Ps65ggK6IIiFMkrwLqzgD7BVY3X+NEuTjjJ Ur7zw6fUXjQ4mQdKw+6uWbRgrfgWGRVc4Cq/OdJCci7qJvHY7owYPZr4DeVmtCT4vQQl s2Zdju2wE2ZX7qFUXaHX6p8o5bzJppD8tUexw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nUk5MFa+3+h3BGWYwGhh887QGEHZU1XEF26KupvSxfrF9/IfRY50xviQ8oCM2fzpvZ yc/e0HyWBEPDYzYa3hyryz7xooQRyEquBal3MwPHh9kdsx+Gcu97OBHfBYkcwk06SpJE gTO3kOiM2ayFD7cuiYrxM66dtBl+erGLzh40w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.6 with SMTP id z6mr23130wee.79.1276297446936; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:04:06 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:04:08 -0000 > > Is there a filesystem at /mnt/hd/FBSD/? what do u mean? the output of the command "df -h" /dev/ad0s3a 19G 6.5G 11G 37% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad0s3d 2.5G 186M 2.1G 8% /home /dev/da0s1 149G 62G 87G 42% /mnt/hd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:05:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BBA106567C for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC048FC26 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o5BN2GI6093828; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:02:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o5BN2Gkn093827; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:02:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:02:16 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-ID: <20100611230216.GA93752@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:46 -0000 On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 01:46:57AM +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't have > any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob) > > i give as a root the command "dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a" > > but i receive the following error: > > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/ > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks. > DUMP: Cannot open output "/mnt/hd/FBSD/". > DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") > > i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect. > Well, it looks like something is wrong with where you are trying to write the dump. What is mounted on /mnt/hd/FBSD? Is anything? Is there a filesystem built on it or is it some serial access media such as tape (in naming convention I have never seen). Or is FBSD a directory? If so, you have to name a file within it eg: /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump I don't specifically see any problem with your dump command. It is the media where you are writing that is causing your problem. It hasn't had a filesystem built or mounted on it or something like that. By the way, you don't have to specify the /dev/name in a dump. dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD / would be sufficient and more clear to human read. dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/home.dump /home would be good for /home It is hard to guess beyond this what is happening. > P.S.:ad0s3a is my root directory (/) > s3b is /home and > s3d is my swap space Don't dump swap. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:06:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC1D1065762 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B29A8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AED3CEB6; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:05:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5BN5o1C003135; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:05:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:05:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612010550.66693718.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:06:00 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:46:57 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > only /home is in a diferent partition,but i don't care because i don't have > any file in it (only .xinitrc,but this is not a prob) > > i give as a root the command "dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ /dev/ad0s3a" > > but i receive the following error: > > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 01:39:31 2010 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/ > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 6843871 tape blocks. > DUMP: Cannot open output "/mnt/hd/FBSD/". > DUMP: Do you want to retry the open?: ("yes" or "no") > > i tried to reopen the output but it had no effect. The answer is right here: DUMP: Cannot open output "/mnt/hd/FBSD/". You need to specify a file, not a directory. For example, you can use this command: # dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/ad0s3a.dump /dev/ad0s3a You just have to make sure that there's enough space for the dump file on the device mounted as /mnt/hd. > P.S.:ad0s3a is my root directory (/) Then you have all subtrees on your / partition (like /var, /usr). Correctly, this is what you want to dump. > s3b is /home and If you don't need it, don't dump it. :-) Anyway, if its nearly empty, you won't need much space for the dumpfile. > s3d is my swap space Partition d is the swap? It's usually b, but... possible. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:09:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4432B1065739 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957BF8FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90D23D461; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:09:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5BN9pev003177; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:09:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:09:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612010951.900e83f4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:09:54 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:04:06 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > the output of the command "df -h" > > /dev/ad0s3a 19G 6.5G 11G 37% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad0s3d 2.5G 186M 2.1G 8% /home > /dev/da0s1 149G 62G 87G 42% /mnt/hd >From the device name da0s1, I conclude that /mnt/hd does not connect to a UFS file system, right? In case it is a FAT file system, make sure you can actually write a file of 6.5 GB to it - not that you end up with a truncated dump file. Check "mount -v /dev/da0s1" for the correct mount options. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:17:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C135D106568B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A108FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1602988wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:17:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/wJETM1DZmvRY+AMV+p0vRntAXXtn6clh+SP6LVRmK0=; b=oDBD3RGxViLfrs9wEULO1isucWwzTMUd/z3h00DDK3+jn5E+vDXVm3HaVPlwqlQE6l fwy2/SAnr7JY2ThCrwtFY4M9IhbTAEXl0gmnRgL3JfMNNDu+CESf1rmQjK2LkCyb3SSk GI41P8KfMw3S6Hk6Z4yiQMgDrB4HvqQq9wFEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RjwbzH9N58Pr4MLG4wtGoTYV3hGXevC9ujBm15Xde8V8eUBmlYi6zLMxmkapwKan7f RIa0BaWbWtAlJd3zo0iSe5XAtF6KzgNr7ZgAguxiWIq2GHMzuPIZp2+TIJL9bfkPwRwV yh5tSSUcrirODMURteiqqa9yCh4T0MUHQMsvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.68 with SMTP id t46mr34936wee.75.1276298237172; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:17:17 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:17:18 -0000 /mnt/hd/ is the directory of my external hard disk and /mnt/hd/FBSD is the directory of "FBSD" folder within the hard disk. i created the file root.dump in /mnt/hd/FBSD and i gave the command "dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump /" the result is: DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 02:05:36 2010 > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > DUMP: estimated 6859984 tape blocks. > DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] > DUMP: write error 4194320 blocks into volume 1 > DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") > is it ok? P.S.:my hard disk is a FAT file system not a UFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:22:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5121065670 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05BE8FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4DD3D557; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:22:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5BNMpCt003602; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:22:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:22:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612012251.e88c5c19.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:22:58 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:17:17 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > /mnt/hd/ is the directory of my external hard disk and /mnt/hd/FBSD is the > directory of "FBSD" folder within the hard disk. Please try to use the correct terminology (yes, I know, I'm picky about that): FreeBSD has directories, not "folders". I assume you don't call files "sheets of paper". :-) > i created the file root.dump in /mnt/hd/FBSD and i gave the command "dump > -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump /" You don't need to create a file - dump will do that. > the result is: > > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Jun 12 02:05:36 2010 > > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > > DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad0s3a (/) to /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump > > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] > > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] > > DUMP: estimated 6859984 tape blocks. > > DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] > > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] > > DUMP: write error 4194320 blocks into volume 1 > > DUMP: Do you want to restart?: ("yes" or "no") > > > > is it ok? Doesn't look that way. "write error 4194320 blocks into volume 1" seems to indicate that the file counldn't successfully be written. and the retry request suggests that something went wrong. > P.S.:my hard disk is a FAT file system not a UFS. I guessed right. :-) Make sure you can acutally write a 6.5 GB file on it. FAT usually has problems with big files. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:30:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEC61065677 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBFA8FC1D for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1615872wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:30:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hkrnRegP2qa11/knt4dZ+c6MwuR0wivyS/WnsR5bmCQ=; b=iu6xHyMuIi4LEmvwtNf6KDEQrJh3kysIRFHfnea8f58RqxcaAHH0odCyb9wj2Zd7WQ gLeP/mkk9k3tDTAvH0zKAg8ppMm1UkY5ZZ90OlvEwNX4a64vWo4Eac/2KT+9L4zqg6yD BD9xaGcOIyMcxGVEemxg4jqTlpZcS7rckPkuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IPmE8F7W/LKu9ESmCcHgLJgwrkZTaz0L1gDDwlf1wXvV9GEzRSpbHfGcmoFYr2QqhJ RV0E0HQHtGJw22fkmBwEbMpROhfnB8G9+r8kxqLrfkcHPxsszonHWIHNwZCsD7Ea4cKF HV9HY0VZq7luJNmMjg+p5eIz1XXf6ET68fEcI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.6 with SMTP id z6mr38975wee.79.1276299013368; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:30:13 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:30:20 -0000 i used the "restart" option but still i had the same error. if i make my hard disk a UFS file system then the error it may be fixed. how can i do it? P.S.:i have 138 gb free space on my hard disk.:) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 23:49:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E21D1065674 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D75C8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440B83D5C8; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5BNnOI3003945; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:49:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:49:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612014924.45b62be8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:49:28 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:30:13 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > i used the "restart" option but still i had the same error. Have you previously deleted the created file from the external hard disk? Can you provide "mount -v /dev/da0s1"? > if i make my hard disk a UFS file system then the error it may be fixed. > > how can i do it? Can you use the WHOLE disk for your backup files? In case you've got nothing to lose on that disk, it's quite easy, but pay attention: The disk will be EMPTY then. Make sure it's unmonted before creating a FreeBSD file system on it. # newfs -U /dev/da0 # mount /dev/da0 /mnt This does omit the slice part, it's often called "dedicated". Sometimes it's called "dangerously dedicated" because "Windows" can't read it anymore (as if it could by default...). Oh, and did I already mention "sade"? It's a nice tool for dealing with disks, slices, partitions and filesystems, it works like sysinstall's corresponding subfunctions. You can use it to 1. delete the da0s1 slice 2. create a FreeBSD slice, spanning the whole disk 3. create an UFS partition, covering the whole slice 4. format the UFS partition, maybe using soft updates. This will give you /dev/da0s1c, which you can mount to /mnt. To keep in mind: The "c" partition always means "the whole disk" or "the whole slice", root partitions usually are "a", swap spaces "b", and other partitions start at "e" (they can also start at "d", but I think that "d" was reserved for something in the past, not sure if it's still the case). > P.S.:i have 138 gb free space on my hard disk.:) In case you have data on that disk that you NEED - get them off the disk first. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 00:12:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109011065674 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987A08FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1657359wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:12:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SAvQcQjaIq1FmB77W1Za6oOWcEF/QM6r7lVWjpoo1g4=; b=qR7sxLKGBbBhHV9X1IJfo/veF886sh0urQaY/yFH+xnIlSg+H1/TYZzYwGRErx2iKN G0oy5yi3UkO0Kmb2Dw6tW7ENVz7wtMyiS/v17s6baM6/c0wDLLBeUR+yx0C/d8esE0xq fG3Oe8mBY5F0Vc5knM3exyVjUf+xayEQbkEYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sa55k6cgKB0rzH85prUd7K5oUCTd53dusP6/itDwH1BHv5mNW079wCaetZiruDbzWk A8aTLfcFHbgxhEkZ+70B7G+BPPwH86mq4CSRanXOFaroLW6Gg0uNFLfzRkfS1R5uoDZx 8u/RDeFnDvlisTyGPQlbRAGgy0qdj6+9PgTO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.156.193 with SMTP id m43mr92413wek.11.1276301577303; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:12:57 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:12:59 -0000 ok,the dump files where created succesfully.. now i will make the formats.. after the formats how i will restore my system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 00:37:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23931065673 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822F58FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3ED3D711; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:37:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5C0bOUl004302; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:37:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 02:37:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612023723.a72dea58.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:37:30 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:12:57 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > after the formats how i will restore my system? With restore. :-) First of all, after you've created a new slice, and within the slice partitions as desired (you can easily do this from the FreeBSD live system CD or DVD, or any other FreeBSD based live system, e. g. FreeSBIE), you will need one restore operation per dumped partition. In this example, I'll assume that ad0s3 is your new FreeBSD slice, and within it, the partitions ad0s3a (root file system), ad0s3b (swap) and ad0s3e (home) have been successfully created (e. g. via sysinstall's functionality, sade, or fdisk + bsdlabel). If you are in a multiboot environment, pay attention to the implications (e. g. FreeBSD boot manager). Then, when in the live system: # mkdir /backup # mount -o ro /dev/da0 /backup # newfs ad0s3a # newfs -U ad0s3e # mount /dev/newfs ad0s3a /mnt # cd /mnt # restore -rf /backup/root.dump # cd /mnt/home # restore -rf /backup/home.dump # cd / # umount /mnt # umount /backup # sync # reboot See "man restore" for details. Basically, using restore, you go # cd # restore -rf It's quite easy as soon as you've understood this logic. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 01:32:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284261065678 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9948FC18 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1730354wyb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:32:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VQPzCaEUAeJTxKYtdhNSy7dpLGu9b39ATw3nen432Bw=; b=wz0I1K4/5T6p/VryhasQP7OCcXhtLdw96vws+gQhLYfDvXM5K0Prv7H3DRV4IyATGg I1s9L7zn010Vl/NHbbQE1Hzf6EXIleGO+IcA7jjf74lDjoZkJu/2o7vxZREUJxk0AeUQ fY9eUbiAfiOJrIEKoQNHyvb8/A0ei9MuTHiY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ITrxz0JpEBYo/Mcqoe9xWI/IQixXUirUe+rtHN+IiH/uciojLXSebf2x8b/W3zhFo9 3BKflR0NwtlTLxsQatxwdEWBGXQ+WlIil8DtPfmBUjLHYTbamYBP7pz2YbuYqaBRx0/q Q/+yZzo680PFfeCpA3pw69CdM1iOi553PvncY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.146 with SMTP id y18mr113609wee.57.1276306337356; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:32:17 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:32:19 -0000 i have a problem while i am trying to restore the dump files.. i followed your instructions but when i give "restore -rf /backup/root.dump" i receive the following error: expected next file 188417,got 4 and the output of ls in the /mnt directory is: .snap restoresymtable terietor what is going on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 03:33:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5C3106566C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08C18FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F4AF2685E; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:33:02 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.7.16; tzolkin = 3 Cib; haab = 9 Zotz Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:33:02 -0700 Message-ID: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:33:03 -0000 I'm working on a project for my client, and I spent the better part of two days trying to get my laptop running OSX to have the right combination of BerkeleyDB and Perl modules to build what I wanted. Turns out my Perl 5.10.1 install was incompatible with BerkeleyDB on OSX, but the macports version 5.8.9 was also in the wrong path, ugh. Finally, I said "hey, freebsd would do better here". Within a half day, I had a freebsd VMWare image up and running, executing precisely the code I wanted, and I was able to take my development to the next round. FreeBSD. The Ports Just Work. Nothing else like it. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 07:06:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0A81065673 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABD58FC12 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5C76qVp005190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:06:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:06:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:06:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2010 04:33:02, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > I'm working on a project for my client, and I spent the better part of > two days trying to get my laptop running OSX to have the right > combination of BerkeleyDB and Perl modules to build what I wanted. > Turns out my Perl 5.10.1 install was incompatible with BerkeleyDB on > OSX, but the macports version 5.8.9 was also in the wrong path, ugh. > > Finally, I said "hey, freebsd would do better here". > > Within a half day, I had a freebsd VMWare image up and running, > executing precisely the code I wanted, and I was able to take my > development to the next round. > > FreeBSD. The Ports Just Work. Nothing else like it. > Absolutely. Especially when you compare it to MacPorts and consider the disparity in numbers of users between MacOS and FreeBSD. Given that the ports is maintained by a bunch of volunteers basically in their spare time, the fact that it is consistently of good quality and that the popular packages are generally updated to the latest available versions within a couple of weeks -- frequently within a few hours -- it's a pretty astonishing accomplishment. Cheers, Matthew Mind you, I am vaguely starting to wonder when perl5.12 is going to hit the tree... - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwTMgsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyLFgCeIck3R37I7mv+ZJZ64KH07jXH RSUAoJKY6aucSq+3ty+6By4P0xlkbivN =ZnT/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 08:40:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446B61065672 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55488FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so415885fgb.13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:40:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4Maq5FglwY5+/1x+zUKEGjkJkkusg4Z3ovB4hqTgGr8=; b=lDeyokxhzA8hcWXl9/f33C8ZqpSQneuSO1vVr7P1w4tgq1FCFZXsvsWgtxj8i/eXeV zeqsWy51l5FFA70tIrm/Y9GKH6AU6vgO+6LJ4YGNiBhOWVLY4qKamLxA9suJ8ceKS/rp qhzyhFnHJZ0R9a2YXnO7Sc1y7/9kBQkWKA9y4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ufJGDSITwVyvvvNfqGylVDVfTr+Sxu1jVAu4GEd8Wa1EYWIHphrv+V8+aXdkVhOfKI C5BJ/seMyVAzHVhlWcbDk+fN2op8zPPwHcqDAbmb4Fu2ILkwN7izzZNwwpgvvRp5bvRY CUUEfAWg2yHKY31cjx5p8jLtZBgCK3T0pl8aA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.140 with SMTP id o12mr206159hba.111.1276332023193; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.165.129 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 01:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:40:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How many states can pf sanely handle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:40:26 -0000 Hi, I have a dns server that receives a fair amount of traffic. I was implementing a pf based firewall on it and ran into a few issues. Basically there is a ridiculously high number of states generated. I just wondered what are the upper limits of what pf can handle, and what the memory requirements are? to get an idea of the traffic levels (this is about 30% of peak time) # pfctl -z ; sleep 60 ; pfctl -sr -v pass in quick on bce0 proto udp from to any port = domain no state [ Evaluations: 284852 Packets: 209701 Bytes: 13789905 States: 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 95645 ] pass out quick on bce0 proto udp from any port = domain to no state [ Evaluations: 309780 Packets: 207705 Bytes: 56264916 States: 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 95645 ] pass out quick on bce0 proto udp from any to any port = domain no state [ Evaluations: 50734 Packets: 50734 Bytes: 3933868 States: 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 95645 ] pass in quick on bce0 proto udp from any port = domain to any no state [ Evaluations: 51290 Packets: 48056 Bytes: 9106259 States: 0 ] [ Inserted: uid 0 pid 95645 ] These rules aren't exactly ideal but they do stop an insane amount of states being generated, as every dns request generates one inbound rule, then potentially multiple outbound ones depending on whether you get a cache hit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 13:50:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E862D106566C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7598FC1D for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so2348885wwb.13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:50:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p8LAy02G4Hs+yUslG1VkdTvFZF6lP4nop+ut0i/jWr0=; b=wgCTFtaK0n5jCaj3UwVEHzf/xrB1KEBXVC4ZulLW5RoblaOWgsb0A5Uyiqxy8mhdCJ Bas//UT2kxXjxuChYtXUnyxH/Rg+lunf3noLvrSP+dmrWHQUHx0taxGtDIUSeDSCumWK ctTZB5Mba/4vknY69xi+JAGUDLg0LTpuKgQi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UPFCRPHCfS5DTH83dn3mTnHOc1QNT4SIybr3rfoAQ+KWMjjvwE8GJ//yDnkL7ea5Yc /r/TKUbMsPCzay+WELIZkrQLuK210OkP8sgC/YAiZt4GFprp92Y67RIuERnn2G3lkp1u DN4mciwK5j1wSSke7T0RG7W/DOfw/ifsrIFxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.161.67 with SMTP id v45mr547324wek.26.1276350621231; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:50:21 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:50:23 -0000 i have a problem while i am trying to restore the dump files.. i followed your instructions but when i give "restore -rf /backup/root.dump" i receive the following error: expected next file 188417,got 4 and the output of ls in the /mnt directory is: .snap restoresymtable terietor what is going on? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 14:02:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F0D1065674 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw7.surf-town.net (mail11.surf-town.net [212.97.132.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288FA8FC1F for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw7.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 87B29EC4CC; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:02:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw7.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDC1EC4E0; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:02:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw7.surf-town.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mailgw7.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw7.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id GssrP5Z37jS1; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:02:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-b486e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.134.180]) by mailgw7.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7781CEC37B; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:02:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C13937C.2060709@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:02:36 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100609 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:02:49 -0000 2010-06-12 15:50, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas skrev: > i have a problem while i am trying to restore the dump files.. > > i followed your instructions but when i give > > "restore -rf /backup/root.dump" i receive the following error: > > expected next file 188417,got 4 > > > and the output of ls in the /mnt directory is: > .snap > restoresymtable > terietor > > > what is going on? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Either you executed dump without the L flag when the filesystem was mounted rw or, if you did give the L flag, some file changed while dump was creating the snapshot from which to create the dump. When dumping / it's ALWAYS safer to have it mounted read only. In my first reply, I suggested you boot into single user and create the dump from there. I've had the same type of message several times, but I've never found them to cause any harm. However, I never dump sensitive data from a read/write mounted fs. If possible I re-mount it read only, otherwise I boot into single user. And to be rudely honest: HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING ANYONE HAS WRITTEN? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 14:13:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AEA106566B for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A608FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5273D36D; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:13:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5CED5MN001456; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:13:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:13:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612161304.61df18f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:21 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:32:17 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > i have a problem while i am trying to restore the dump files.. > > i followed your instructions but when i give > > "restore -rf /backup/root.dump" i receive the following error: > > expected next file 188417,got 4 This *may* be okay, but it would be good if you would check the recent mailing list archives; as far as I remember, it has been discussed in detail (and with examples) about how to clone a system from one disk to another, also using dump + restore. > and the output of ls in the /mnt directory is: > .snap > restoresymtable > terietor I'm not sure what the third entry should be; can you provide "ls -laF /mnt/" and additionally check that your root.dump has a size corresponding to the occupation of the / partition the dump was taken from? Remeber: Only a working backup is a (good) backup. According to "man restore": Note that restore leaves a file restoresymtable in the root directory to pass information between incremental restore passes. This file should be removed when the last incremental has been restored. Did you make a full or incremental dump? > what is going on? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 14:28:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695D7106566C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terietor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCA78FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so2413749wyb.13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S+42QazrGcvyMGyIL22fsxxZDuy9RgGdwwbK319UrlM=; b=v2EmZbqa3djCQ6usXT6CVtA0ddXTqpPocdrbiDs98dmo7KlW8ZGX+psuIYiAaiWmfj jA8QvG53dor8WC2uFwBNKq7MMnNaCNhcSan2YvWVlmH/dlxA07Z9RyCz6U4zRwQYd7Qj hzlBlUTCx+bNimkFQc93C0l4J/ebes11CBaCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eLLiq+J7Ve9gJu9nV5G5bCAO14DGK6pcXutr35cDF+PpcP49XXBrrkS0o1TE3AwZrm UjiSlzP2LqjAfklpHad9UsAO6ikV1NCL8wIcBCNBH9bl0ne3geOOBmDGuPzjEqMTJv1c HgQMiAnbSpiwnmIrm2d69EIhx4ymUH4Z10Bzw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.185.74 with SMTP id t52mr455246wem.54.1276352929704; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.220.144 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:28:49 +0300 Message-ID: From: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE:resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:28:51 -0000 YES i have read what everyone said and yes i gave the L command when i dumped the / but i didn't mounted / as read-only when i made the dump file. Did you make a full or incremental dump? i don't know what u mean but i gave the command:"dump -0Lauf /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump /". the output of the command ls -laF is: total 1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root 0 512 Nov 21 2009 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 14 root 0 512 Jun 12 16:51 ../ > i have to start the installiation from the begginging right? the two slices have been merged,my previous system has been erased and my dump files are corrupted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 14:55:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94D9106567C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6973A8FC26 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-232.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.232]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6163F3CADF; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:54:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o5CEssIx001588; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:54:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:54:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Tsiapaliokas Message-Id: <20100612165454.0c3a5ef8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: resize freebsd slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:55:00 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:28:49 +0300, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > YES i have read what everyone said and yes i gave the L command when i > dumped the / but i didn't mounted / as read-only when i made the dump file. That is okay - as long as -L (dump live file system) is given. But I also do share the opinion to mount the partition I want to dump as ro, or, more often (due to other technical reasons), don't have the partition mounted at all, the safest method. (In my case, I'm booting from a CD or USB stick to enter a simple, but customized backup environment; partitions of the system aren't mounted, but that's okay as backup "downtime" is not an issue. Then, dump files are written using SSH to a network drive.) > i don't know what u mean but i gave the command:"dump -0Lauf > /mnt/hd/FBSD/root.dump /". That's okay, it should have created a usable dump file. Just for checking, those are the options: -0: Level 0 dump = full dump -L: Live dump = create snapshot, then dump from that -a: Auto-size = write dumpfile until target media is full -u: Update dumpdates = make entry in /etc/dumpdates -f: File = which file to dump to. Looks correct. > the output of the command ls -laF is: > > total 1 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root 0 512 Nov 21 2009 ./ > > drwxr-xr-x 14 root 0 512 Jun 12 16:51 ../ Is this the /mnt directory? It appears to be empty - nothing has been restored to it? That looks wrong (and contradicts the previous presentation of at least three non-dot entries). Did you mount your target disk (for the restore) rw into /mnt, then change into /mnt, and run the restore command from there? Allow me a final and quite generic note about dumping and restoring: This is a process handling your precious data. Triple-check everything you do. It's worth the time and work. > i have to start the installiation from the begginging right? I don't think so. If your dump file is intact (check its size - it should be around 6.5 GB, if I remember correctly). > the two slices have been merged,my previous system has been erased and my > dump files are corrupted. I'm not sure it is corrupted, at least your presentation of the dump output doesn't seem to indicate that. I assume there's a problem related to properly restoring the files. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 15:38:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F2E106564A for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E30B18FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13018 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2010 15:38:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2010 15:38:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=nJ6GxcYe3FKFVTOV/CQPdmOGWJyYMXcKG5qdH/7yNzsS2/tIMM+zcLaXubhMBWUoxoTbSnMrL+8OtVQYeeyOlzDrJXe2QU2P5tWwsff9X8r/2JoZPfo4wvuJRxFik/zI; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONSnL-0003Iv-8a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:38:52 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:38:13 -0600 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:38:13 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100612153813.GA53180@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:38:53 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 08:06:52AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > Absolutely. Especially when you compare it to MacPorts and consider the > disparity in numbers of users between MacOS and FreeBSD. Given that the > ports is maintained by a bunch of volunteers basically in their spare > time, the fact that it is consistently of good quality and that the > popular packages are generally updated to the latest available versions > within a couple of weeks -- frequently within a few hours -- > it's a pretty astonishing accomplishment. I don't mean to belittle anyone's accomplishments, of course, but I don't find it astonishing at all. FreeBSD's development model is one that encourages people to develop what they use, and to use what they develop, and it doesn't exclude people for rules of arbitrary hiring practices. When your software is developed and/or maintained by way of a more meritocratic system in which people are "eating their own dog food" and the developers/maintainers are self-selected in large part because of their *interest* in what they develop or maintain, it would be surprising to me if something like FreeBSD *didn't* end up doing better than something like MacOS X, which is developed and maintained under an autocratic model wherein many of the developers and maintainers were assigned to their respective projects (regardless of interest) after being hired due to their resume bullet points (regardless of actual ability). That's just my perspective. I suppose yours may differ. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwTqeUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXHVwCgiK2AHSCRO41noZqfBNXDgf5z dfkAnA39spTlLp+TY38ZYnt6pRI1NaKv =0JHD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 17:26:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837861065679 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E1B8FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5CHQhNg019669 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:26:42 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20100612172639.GA80940@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: php help, please.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:26:46 -0000 a few days ago i got my webserver working.. late last night i found the following error on my http://www.thought.org page: Warning: date() [function.date]: It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'America/Los_Angeles' for 'PDT/-7.0/DST' instead in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/randmeditations.php on line 6 as an example of my use of "date() is $hour = date("H"); can anybody 'splain what suddenly went wrong with my two-year-old php script? gary ps: FWIW: I am pulling this part from my home page today. i figure every 18-30 months pages need updating. but would shore like to know wha' happened.... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 17:43:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F52F1065672 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8880E8FC12 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5CHhKYj015669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:43:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C13C737.6050400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:43:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100612153813.GA53180@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20100612153813.GA53180@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL,TO_NO_BRKTS_DIRECT autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:43:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2010 16:38:13, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 08:06:52AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >> Absolutely. Especially when you compare it to MacPorts and consider the >> disparity in numbers of users between MacOS and FreeBSD. Given that the >> ports is maintained by a bunch of volunteers basically in their spare >> time, the fact that it is consistently of good quality and that the >> popular packages are generally updated to the latest available versions >> within a couple of weeks -- frequently within a few hours -- >> it's a pretty astonishing accomplishment. > > I don't mean to belittle anyone's accomplishments, of course, but I don't > find it astonishing at all. FreeBSD's development model is one that > encourages people to develop what they use, and to use what they develop, > and it doesn't exclude people for rules of arbitrary hiring practices. > When your software is developed and/or maintained by way of a more > meritocratic system in which people are "eating their own dog food" and > the developers/maintainers are self-selected in large part because of > their *interest* in what they develop or maintain, it would be surprising > to me if something like FreeBSD *didn't* end up doing better than > something like MacOS X, which is developed and maintained under an > autocratic model wherein many of the developers and maintainers were > assigned to their respective projects (regardless of interest) after > being hired due to their resume bullet points (regardless of actual > ability). > > That's just my perspective. I suppose yours may differ. > You are entirely correct, as far as MacOS X itself goes, although I suspect that Apples' core developers are equally as interested in what they do as FreeBSD's. (Not least because there is quite a bit of overlap between those groups.) MacPorts however is not an official Apple controlled thing (although it does have Apple's full support). It's a volunteer project with maintainers and committers in very much the same roles as the equivalents for FreeBSD ports. Given that MacOS X has, what, about 5.8% of the entire world desktop userbase (compare: Linux 1.2%, FreeBSD not even on the graph according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems) they have so many more potential volunteers that even if their volunteering rate is an order of magnitude less, they'd still come out ahead. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwTxzcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxFdQCfUhFjfSJEQeItQTfTNzB3VB7q Z6oAniJgNZty/3pGatCqYlFrs5PnIJ0Z =FIZn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 17:49:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718B51065672 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B1A8FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o5CHnKi8015738 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:49:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C13C8A0.8000009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:49:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20100612172639.GA80940@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20100612172639.GA80940@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: php help, please.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:49:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2010 18:26:42, Gary Kline wrote: > can anybody 'splain what suddenly went wrong with my two-year-old > php script? Simple. You upgraded to php-5.3.x. This is a well known gotcha -- php-5.3.x needs to have the timezone set explicitly in /usr/local/etc/php.ini. If you haven't got a php.ini, then just copy one of the sample files, php.ini-production for preference, and edit it like so (although your timezone is almost certainly not Europe/London, so substitute accordingly): % diff -u php.ini-production php.ini - --- php.ini-production 2010-05-31 10:03:32.000000000 +0100 +++ php.ini 2010-04-27 15:53:52.000000000 +0100 @@ -1002,7 +1002,7 @@ [Date] ; Defines the default timezone used by the date functions ; http://php.net/date.timezone - -;date.timezone = +date.timezone = Europe/London ; http://php.net/date.default-latitude ;date.default_latitude = 31.7667 Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwTyKAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzCegCaAgFCmpJewNjbJJrslNdHGdyq /fgAnjoCsVwUK/koPT7TzrM26UsXgro3 =06OP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 18:47:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9095106564A for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901E18FC12 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5CIlCGJ020190; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:47:11 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20100612184711.GA81004@thought.org> References: <20100612172639.GA80940@thought.org> <4C13C8A0.8000009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C13C8A0.8000009@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: php help, please.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:47:15 -0000 On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 06:49:20PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/06/2010 18:26:42, Gary Kline wrote: > > can anybody 'splain what suddenly went wrong with my two-year-old > > php script? > > Simple. You upgraded to php-5.3.x. This is a well known gotcha -- > php-5.3.x needs to have the timezone set explicitly in > /usr/local/etc/php.ini. If you haven't got a php.ini, then just copy > one of the sample files, php.ini-production for preference, and edit it > like so (although your timezone is almost certainly not Europe/London, > so substitute accordingly): > > % diff -u php.ini-production php.ini > - --- php.ini-production 2010-05-31 10:03:32.000000000 +0100 > +++ php.ini 2010-04-27 15:53:52.000000000 +0100 > @@ -1002,7 +1002,7 @@ > [Date] > ; Defines the default timezone used by the date functions > ; http://php.net/date.timezone > - -;date.timezone = > +date.timezone = Europe/London > > ; http://php.net/date.default-latitude > ;date.default_latitude = 31.7667 > > Cheers, > > Matthew here's what is in my /usr/local/etc/php.ini file as of moments ago: [Date] ; Defines the default timezone used by the date functions ; http://php.net/date.timezone date.timezone = America/Los_Angeles i hit reload on my broswer and still get the err from date. the first date is $week = date("w"); [[[i think!]]] then, i tried [again] what Robert suggested, and my problems vanished. thanks to you both. $day = date_default_timezone_set("w"); $hour = date_default_timezone_set("H"); $minutes = date_default_timezone_set("i"); $seconds = date_default_timezone_set("s"); back to my re-editing about my cover artist, one Mr Kalin pretty soon. once i've cleaned up my home/homepage!, but it seems strange that php would simply =change= out from under me. well, so to speak. can you suggest any php list that i should sub to? i don't always click around to read the latest and greatest about lang changes. or fashions and trends, :_) LOL, but i do my best to read of this kind of change..... so any list suggestion would be indeed welcome. gary, [jack of N trades and maste r of -1. ] > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkwTyKAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzCegCaAgFCmpJewNjbJJrslNdHGdyq > /fgAnjoCsVwUK/koPT7TzrM26UsXgro3 > =06OP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 19:09:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4143A1065674 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miker@cancog.com) Received: from mx.cancog.com (mx.cancog.com [209.190.7.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEAB8FC1D for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.cancog.com (mx.cancog.com [209.190.7.43]) by mx.cancog.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065DE5A944F for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:53:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cancog.com Received: from mx.cancog.com ([209.190.7.43]) by mx.cancog.com (mx.cancog.com [209.190.7.43]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vShVWTxBxXa6 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akira.cancog.com (23.7.be.static.xlhost.com [209.190.7.35]) by mx.cancog.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4775A944E for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:52:59 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:52:59 -0400 From: Mike Robins To: Organization: Vivocore Message-ID: X-Sender: miker@cancog.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.2-beta Cc: Subject: Directory Passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:09:52 -0000 Hi there, I currently am running a FreeBSD/Samba server for my company with public shares for all of the employees to keep their work related documents in. I'm wondering if it is possible for me to keep these shares public and add a password to each sub directory in the public share? This would mean I could give each department a sub directory that only they would know the password to and keep the sensitive documents away from public view. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated, and if it is not possible, it would be a nifty feature to have for companies like ours in upcoming releases of FreeBSD. -- Mike Robins Health & Safety Officer Vivocore miker@cancog.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 19:53:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01A6106566C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ECB8FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so3149804iwn.13 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:53:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=K1/JE05NPIqEjzO1H0+6Km6VvPv7U7s2jjY21lHWppE=; b=fE88Vc10azRK/WxXoQ5UVXLloh7exCd6tYafLroH/g+7l7fUjOPRJqwzyK2t3EJt22 Rn0NiNSHr5XOOZ6iedmpZ/fKTgacUZZXTZVvYAbSk4dnte80DdQy2EPNscP7VPojgWXC OLpUL871RMR9Mt42jGpaRWcoEuCr9GA98K/Ds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GUFrphEvY5AaPdOImFVyvPUMFl381KUyN8rSz6AcHejFi4cJK4X857oOlveKStWg3N PUeZ8h3vPnKtiRREJ/T1BnJ7eoDNL5vHGjo4lDsadNT0cjo2pjEtWu+vz5R0VDv3f4BF 1YrFINzpww6jTs2xhxJ1URrENPoMLZ2EEKIoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.169.14 with SMTP id w14mr3874394iby.45.1276372422776; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.157.210 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:53:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C13C737.6050400@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100612153813.GA53180@guilt.hydra> <4C13C737.6050400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:53:42 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:53:43 -0000 On 6/12/10, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/06/2010 16:38:13, Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 08:06:52AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> >>> Absolutely. Especially when you compare it to MacPorts and consider the >>> disparity in numbers of users between MacOS and FreeBSD. Given that the >>> ports is maintained by a bunch of volunteers basically in their spare >>> time, the fact that it is consistently of good quality and that the >>> popular packages are generally updated to the latest available versions >>> within a couple of weeks -- frequently within a few hours -- >>> it's a pretty astonishing accomplishment. >> >> I don't mean to belittle anyone's accomplishments, of course, but I don't >> find it astonishing at all. FreeBSD's development model is one that >> encourages people to develop what they use, and to use what they develop, >> and it doesn't exclude people for rules of arbitrary hiring practices. >> When your software is developed and/or maintained by way of a more >> meritocratic system in which people are "eating their own dog food" and >> the developers/maintainers are self-selected in large part because of >> their *interest* in what they develop or maintain, it would be surprising >> to me if something like FreeBSD *didn't* end up doing better than >> something like MacOS X, which is developed and maintained under an >> autocratic model wherein many of the developers and maintainers were >> assigned to their respective projects (regardless of interest) after >> being hired due to their resume bullet points (regardless of actual >> ability). >> >> That's just my perspective. I suppose yours may differ. >> > > You are entirely correct, as far as MacOS X itself goes, although I > suspect that Apples' core developers are equally as interested in what > they do as FreeBSD's. (Not least because there is quite a bit of > overlap between those groups.) > > MacPorts however is not an official Apple controlled thing (although it > does have Apple's full support). It's a volunteer project with > maintainers and committers in very much the same roles as the > equivalents for FreeBSD ports. > > Given that MacOS X has, what, about 5.8% of the entire world desktop > userbase (compare: Linux 1.2%, FreeBSD not even on the graph according > to Wikipedia: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems) they have > so many more potential volunteers that even if their volunteering rate > is an order of magnitude less, they'd still come out ahead. > These market statistics are pointless. The numbers are based on people reporting their OS and usage. A system like Microsoft or Apple can use a unique host id when checking for system updates which can tabulate this data. Linux is possible to do same, I don't voluntarily run linux so I don't know it as much as I do BSD. However, on BSD, we have to purposely select, download, configure and use a product to track, I know there are large corporations that use BSD (in one shape or form) for their OS, it's just not reported. I check the market share/statistics every now and then to see what the trend is, but I consider them very one-sided and personally very useless to show the actual usage. My 2 cents. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 20:13:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D271065675 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0D28FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-99-21.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.99.21] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONWwu-00075C-Ft for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:02 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:12:55 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:12:55 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100612201255.GD97434@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100612153813.GA53180@guilt.hydra> <4C13C737.6050400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:13:02 -0000 On Jun 12 2010 13:53, Tim Judd wrote: > > These market statistics are pointless. The numbers are based on > people reporting their OS and usage. A system like Microsoft or Apple > can use a unique host id when checking for system updates which can > tabulate this data. Linux is possible to do same, I don't voluntarily > run linux so I don't know it as much as I do BSD. However, on BSD, we > have to purposely select, download, configure and use a product to > track, I know there are large corporations that use BSD (in one shape > or form) for their OS, it's just not reported. > > > I check the market share/statistics every now and then to see what the > trend is, but I consider them very one-sided and personally very > useless to show the actual usage. > > My 2 cents. Call me fatalistic, but I think there is a direct relationship between FreeBSD's high quality and it's lack of popularity. If it catered to the common herd, its compromises would be many. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 22:51:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B2106567C for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C720C8FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VApV1e0030QuhwU5FArbp7; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:51:35 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VArZ1e00K1f6R9u3NAraU4; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:51:36 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:51:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:51:32 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100612225132.GB79077@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86eigdx6vl.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C13320C.5090700@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100612153813.GA53180@guilt.hydra> <4C13C737.6050400@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20100612201255.GD97434@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100612201255.GD97434@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: Vim 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: freebsd - for the win X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:51:36 -0000 On Sat 12 Jun 2010 at 13:12:55 PDT Chip Camden wrote: > >Call me fatalistic, but I think there is a direct relationship between >FreeBSD's high quality and it's lack of popularity. If it catered to >the common herd, its compromises would be many. > I think we're straying from the original topic, but I agree. I worked at Microsoft Developer Support in a previous life, beginning at the time that Visual C++ and MFC were first introduced. One of Microsoft's big selling points was what they called "wizards" -- basically, a set of simple, dialog-based code-generation tools. What I observed, over and over again, is that people would use the wizards to create simple MFC applications and then get hopelessly stuck as soon as they needed to do something the wizards or the MFC framework didn't easily provide. All the wizards had accomplished was to move the point where people got stuck; they hadn't done anything to increase people's understanding of how MFC-based code worked or how best to customize it. What the wizards did accomplish was to bring in a whole bunch of new customers who were encouraged to think of themselves as MFC programmers, without requiring them to have even the most elementary competence in MFC. I'm reminded of this whenever I see proposals to make the FreeBSD system install and configuration more graphical and "user-friendly". Same goes for the ports system. As one of my old colleagues used to say, "There are no shortcuts to the righthand side of the learning curve." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 12 23:50:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203C9106566B for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyin@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA2348FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10257 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2010 23:50:40 -0000 Received: from 173.67.16.70 by www-us014.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:46:26 -0400 From: "Xihong Yin" Message-ID: <20100612235037.158980@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #50283380 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 X-GMX-UID: Amh1KHNfzVK0IRUsijMzoY4/Njh6dI6I X-FuHaFi: 0.73999999999999999,0.73999999999999999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: detached a mounted ufs filesystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:50:42 -0000 I accidentally detached my usb external hard drive without umount it. The hard driver filesysystem is ufs. Now I can't mount it because I can't see the slices. What I get is only da0 and da0a in the /dev directory. Is there a way to fix the filesystem? Thanks, Xihong